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His Dark Materials is set
in an alternate universe
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populated with iconic characters,
daemons and magical creatures.
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To adapt this for television,
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there's no doubt that
this much-loved story
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would be an ambitious undertaking.
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It's got to be epic, it's
got to be a grand scale.
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You can't really just pop a
book and make it a TV series.
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That's probably the
paramount challenge, I think.
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I believe it will translate
really, really well.
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Follow production as they
tackle this challenge head-on
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from envisioning the costumes...
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Everybody that reads the books
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is going to have a different imagination
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and they're going to
visualise it differently.
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... building the worlds...
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It always stuck in my mind as something
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that was going to be a very
hard thing to try and do,
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and it's such a fun challenge that
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I defy anyone to not think it would
be utterly brilliant thing to do.
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... mastering the daemons...
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The scale of this is,
I would say, unprecedented,
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especially from a creature perspective.
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This is one of the most ambitious
projects I've ever come upon.
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I just thought, "This is
utterly extraordinary",
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and I wasn't entirely
sure that it was doable.
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Yeah, this show is above and beyond
what has ever been done before.
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... and the challenges of
writing the screenplay.
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I want to be 100% true to the original.
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I am a fan of these books,
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and I want people who
are a fan of these books
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to feel pleased with this adaptation.
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What we're bringing to the screen
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is a faithful adaptation
of the books people love,
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but it's just plus, it's just more.
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Buckle up as we delve into
Making His Dark Materials.
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- Synced and corrected by Firefly -
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First published over 20 years ago,
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His Dark Materials has
spawned a dedicated fan base,
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which unsurprisingly includes myself...
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Lyra, I promised once to do
everything I could to protect you
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from anyone who might do you harm.
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... and some of our key cast.
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His Dark Materials is one of my
favourite book series of all time.
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I read it with my wife when
she was still my girlfriend.
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We had just started dating and
it was one of those trilogies
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we read together. And it's such
a beautiful coming of age story,
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it's such a beautiful world,
it's so smart, it's so full.
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I've read it three times, I think.
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I've listened to the audiobook twice,
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I've listened to the BBC
radio adaptation twice.
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I'm a massive fan.
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Philip has created such a unique
world and such a complicated world.
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Which means it's... definitely has
to be, like, dramatised in some way,
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but it's very hard to do.
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And you feel utterly magnificent.
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Taking on these much-loved characters
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was filled with mixed emotions.
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They told me, "We're doing a
series on His Dark Materials".
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which I believe is what the material
deserves, it's such a rich world,
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so I was in from that dinner onward.
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I had to do a musical number
and get into a bar fight
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on the first and second
days of filming respectively.
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Those are two dreams for an actor.
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When I heard that they were
going to turn it into a TV series,
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I got very excited as a fan.
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There's never really been a part in it
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that I've thought I should play.
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I've never really seen
myself as Lord Asriel.
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Came in, walked into the
read-through and was like,
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"Right! I'm Lord Asriel!",
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smashing it and really enjoying it.
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And I've been loving it.
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That was clumsy, wasn't it?
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It most certainly was nerve-racking.
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I was like, "Oh, my God, so many
people who have read the books
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and love Lyra". So it's very,
very nerve-racking thinking
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that you've got to live up
to everyone's role model.
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Funny, the character was so
exciting and interesting and bold
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and colourful and so many
things to explore with her.
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That really excited me, but,
yes, there's a huge fan base,
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and she has a huge following
and people love her
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and despise her in equal measure.
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Bringing this iconic tale
to television may seem
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like an obvious decision,
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but it was actually a
long time in the making.
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I read the books when they
came out in the late 1990s.
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And I really felt that this material
was something I wanted to make.
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I would, every now and again,
reach out to Philip's agent,
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then to New Line, and keep pitching
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for why I felt these books
should be adapted for television.
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I mean, to say I circled like a shark
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makes me sound more aggressive.
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I think I probably
just waited on the porch
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like a really loyal and faithful puppy.
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There have been various attempts
to make adaptations of this story
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in all sorts of different media.
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I was always attracted to the
idea of long-form television,
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as we now call it,
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because it does give the opportunity
to tell a long story in full.
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It's a wonderful illustration
of the skill and the talent
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and the dedication we now
have in the British TV world.
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I'm very privileged to have seen
my story taken over by Bad Wolf
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and made into such a
spectacular piece of work.
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With Philip Pullman's blessing,
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it was time to get this
project set in motion.
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First up, who would
pen this ambitious tale?
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When it was announced that we had
the rights to His Dark Materials,
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Jack put his hand in
the air really early on
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and just said that he
really wanted to do it,
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and what's more, he really wanted
to write all of the eight episodes.
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Most shows of this scale,
you've got a writers' room,
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you got a lot of people
breaking the episodes.
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We're, like, on the Aaron Sorkin model.
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Jack Thorne is, like,
writing every script.
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The task I always set myself is
to follow a truth of the books
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so you can't always put
everything in the same order,
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but fundamentally, you are still
going in the same direction.
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It's hard and you often
find yourself in a cul-de-sac
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because you've made
a series of decisions
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which have taken you too far away.
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It's kind of difficult in a much more
passive form of entertainment
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like TV or film where you
are sitting, being fed.
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You only get to see what we show you,
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and you don't have time to let
your imagination ruminate and,
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or a sentence really kind
of roll around in your mouth
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or in your mind.
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You're on to the next thing,
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and if you don't keep up,
you've lost it, you know?
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One bonus of having a living author
is that you can pick them up
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and you can shake them
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to find all the story that falls out.
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So going, "There's a gap here,
Philip, so what happened here?"
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You know, "Who's this person?
Where did they start from?"
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All those questions.
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Um, but there's also the big
general questions you ask, which is,
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"What would you change?"
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The word itself, adapt...
The story has to be adapted
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to suit the nature of the
medium into which it is going.
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It's the same thing for television,
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same thing for movies,
same thing for radio.
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It's inevitable. I wasn't,
um, going to be insistent
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that every single item in the story
had to be exactly presented
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as it was on the page.
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Whilst Jack got to grips
with this rich adventure,
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the art department was
tackling the alternate universe
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that is Lyra's world.
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The design department is extraordinary.
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I mean, just extraordinary.
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The scale and the level
of detail is so incredible.
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Lyra goes through so many different
forms of existence and worlds,
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so it's a huge job.
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It just shows the amount
of respect, I think,
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that people have for the project,
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that producers have gathered together
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this incredibly talented
group of creatives.
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You get the chance to have
real-life, grown-up playgrounds
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to inhabit and populate
the world of make-believe.
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And that just adds such joy.
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Asriel's lab has so many little
things, they are so detailed.
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It's like they have every single switch.
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It actually really helps, acting-wise.
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To understand how to
build the beginning,
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I wanted to really
understand all three books
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and the story that Philip
had told across those three.
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I worked out from, um, from a kind
of, like, an emotional perspective,
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Philip was using nostalgia,
using memories,
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using kind of his own
childhood nostalgia, maybe,
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so I used that ideology,
but tried to move it forward
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so that newer audience could
find some common ground,
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uh, with the way we
were telling this story.
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One of the biggest problems
with this story is how crazy
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and fantastical and amazing
and kind of vast it is.
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And ultimately, it's a very complex
thing to put in front of the screen
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and I think the presumption
might be that you would
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do it all against blue screens.
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It's way more enjoyable to try
and really feel the environment,
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I think, to try and put in camera
as many of the real-world elements
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and ground this whole place, this
world, in reality as much as we can.
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You know, each area and each space
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has been quite carefully
curated to tell the story.
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I love the airships, they're really fun.
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And we've had three
different kinds of airships,
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so we had one that was like a
tube, you know a London tube,
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one that's like a sort of private
jet, and one that's a military one.
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So I mean, they're amazing, I
could spend all day in those.
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I absolutely love the set of my boat.
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Everybody walks onto that set and
really wishes they could live there.
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On every shelf, in every
cupboard, every cushion,
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I cannot tell you
just the extraordinary,
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microscopic attention to detail.
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I will give you that.
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I've just been doing a lot of scenes
in the frozen wastes of the North
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and you walk onto set and
it's actually pretty stunning.
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And the light is incredible,
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you are lit by our Northern
Lights a lot of the time,
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so it's like being in a brilliant
psychedelic disco. Sometimes.
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In a kind of frozen north sort of way.
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This theme of bespoke design
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would need to be threaded into
everything, including the costumes.
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I think every costume on this show
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is incredibly thought
about and impressive.
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It's kind of a free for all
because it's this alternative world.
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The clothes you wear determine
the way people see you.
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It's interesting, the style of
the show and the sort of period,
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because it's kind of not
set in a particular period.
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Again, we have that freedom
to explore, it could be '40s,
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but we push the boundaries of
that and modernise it slightly.
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- I like it.
- Blue is quite your colour.
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That era where you're never
without a shirt and a tie, you know,
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even if you're not wearing a suit,
you've got a shirt and a tie.
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And this might be one of the only times
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you don't see his shirt and tie.
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From my point of view, the books give me
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all the guidance that I need.
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I'm always going back
to the books to find out
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what Pullman has said
about different characters
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and what Pullman has
said about the world.
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There has to be a logic
within Lyra's world.
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We've dressed people in
non-definable clothing.
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It's trying to mix up things that exist
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and create a look that you
believe, but is timeless.
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There's different
technologies in Lyra's world.
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They travel by zeppelin
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so there would be certain
things, fabrics and technology,
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that wouldn't exist in Lyra's world,
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so that then will influence
how people dress.
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The costumes are really interesting.
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There's something slightly
military to him, even though he's a,
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he's been a theologian
and he is a scientist.
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He's also an adventurer and explorer,
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I think we've reflected
that really well.
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I loved the first
costume of all of them.
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But then I got my beautiful fur coat,
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which is a bit of a pain
when you're doing location
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and it's boiling hot in September,
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but it's great for when you're
at the studio and it's freezing.
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Do you trust me?
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Caroline is an incredible designer
and we had good fun, actually,
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because the Gyptians are so cool.
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You'll see, when you see all
of the extras and everything,
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we were like, "We are so cool!"
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Um, so we do, we have a great
old time with our costumes.
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With the Gyptians, their
clothing has to be practical,
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and there's a sense of
history with the Gyptians,
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so their clothing should look
like it's been passed down.
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So it's all mended, it's broken down.
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The Gyptians have a harmony, a
real harmony with their daemons,
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and so they celebrate
that with their jewellery
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and, um, some of the patterns
I've put into their clothing
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and their knitwear.
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I don't think anybody could
really say what Lee Scoresby,
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what his look was going to be.
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And I had this sort of quite strong idea
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taking in more of the
fact that he's an aviator
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and he's in this balloon,
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give him the kind of
Texan-ish vibe from the book.
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Yeah, man, I have never
dressed more badass in my life.
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I've worn blouses on stage,
I've worn guayaberas on stage,
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uh, but, like, going
full steampunk cowboy is,
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is very much my aesthetic.
I'm very much enjoying it.
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I've had these most, I
mean, glorious costumes.
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I mean, the best thing
about this job is, you know,
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that she's going to look good.
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You know, she wears heels in the Arctic.
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I mean, everything's
been made for me as well,
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so it's a real pleasure to have
these things designed and made.
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I love my big Arctic outfit.
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I had a very clear idea
of how I saw Mrs. Coulter.
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She had to have a beautiful,
but really practical coat.
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I'm really, really pleased with it.
I think she looks fantastic in it.
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The costumes aren't the only
part of a character's persona,
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there are also their
daemons to think about.
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Bringing these to life
was an immense challenge.
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We went through hundreds of iterations
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of how we could do the daemons.
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And in the end we went
back to Philip's version.
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There's so many things that
are impossible to do on screen
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that he sets us the challenge to do.
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They have to be CGI.
I mean, that was really clear,
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full-on, furry critters,
CGI, photo-real.
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Those daemon animals have
to give a performance.
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They are representing something
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of what the character
is thinking or feeling.
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No, Lyra, don't! The retiring
room is expressly forbidden.
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Making photo-real, nuanced visual
effects creations as creatures
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or characters is kind of our
bread and butter, it's what we do.
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The worry was the volume.
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A show like this, you know, it
has what is, what is undeniably
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a high level of visual
effects as its baseline
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because it is very much part
of the pulse of the show.
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Probably one of the hardest
creatures that we've had to create
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is the Golden Monkey because
that is a character that,
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first of all, and it's no small feat,
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has to play alongside Ruth Wilson.
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And we have to support her performance.
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Sometimes we have to be
part of her performance
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and sometimes we just
have to get out of the way
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whilst still having a monkey on screen.
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And we have to do all that with
something that doesn't talk,
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so we have to do all that with
various, with body language
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and just nuanced facial expressions.
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We have these daemons, which
adds a whole other dimension
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to what this, what Philip
Pullman's world is about,
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that are with you all the time.
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So to put that on screen
is quite difficult.
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And in the end they
decided that on the day,
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we would have a series of
puppets that would help us,
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but also the camera team and also
the CGI guys on the other side
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to work out what our daemons were doing.
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So we had to build
representations of those things
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that would give the
actors an understanding
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of the space that they filled
and the weight that they might be
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and the interactions
that they had with them,
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without it being too overly present.
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Uh, the directors also wanted
some emotional sense of this thing,
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because it's not good enough
just to have a ball on a stick,
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you know, you need
something to respond to.
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Here we go again.
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- Friendly place.
- Yeah.
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And working with Framestore,
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we knew they had to
fill the space, almost.
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They had to be smaller
than the final thing
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because they could move
and affect people, objects,
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props, bits of scenery.
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Having a reference for performance
or timing or rhythm in a scene
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is really, really helpful.
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For example, Brian, who played
the Golden Monkey exclusively,
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who pretty much became Ruth Wilson's
own daemon, he was incredible.
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You know, he would pick up on
the rhythm of a scene really,
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really beautifully and start picking up
331
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the nuance of what the monkey
would do and why and where.
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And although we sometimes
changed the position,
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there was kind of like
an energy on camera
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that he put into it that
really, really helped us.
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And even though over time in the edit,
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the emotion of a scene may change
or the timing of a scene may change,
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it's always really good to have
the initial sort of on set instinct
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of a puppeteer and a
director with a puppeteer.
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So they were pivotal for us being
able to get through the show.
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A puppet would be used in a pass to say,
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"Well, it's over here and
this is what it's going to do".
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It may scurry up, it
may be sitting still.
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But we have an emotional accuracy
in where it is, at the right time,
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and get the beats that
are part of the story.
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Lyra, the gift the Master gave you.
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They're so amazing, they really
do help because if not you're like,
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"Where's Pan?" But then you do the pass,
348
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and you're like, "Oh,
this clears everything".
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And it's so fun working with them
350
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because the people who do
it are really nice also.
351
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Did I keep any? I, I,
I... I got an ermine.
352
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Oh, I love my puppet!
353
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Yeah, I love, I love
Brian, I love my puppet.
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I'm like, "Brian, where are you?"
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Every time I do a
scene I'm like, "Brian!"
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Coming in as Golden Monkey performer,
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it was very exciting because they said,
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"All right, we've got Ruth Wilson,
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we want you to work with
her as the Golden Monkey.
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You are going to be one concise unit,
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so you need to be
able to work together".
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Which means Ruth and
I got a rehearsal room
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for a week and a half
straight, pretty much.
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She's never worked with
VFX, uh, in this capacity,
365
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so having something that is
there that is also not there.
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So it was very exciting just
to create that world with her.
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He was giving me some monkey moves,
because he walks like a mon...
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Well, you know, he sort
of animates like a monkey,
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so he would help me work
out anything I want to bring
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into Mrs. Coulter in
terms of body language.
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We worked out a very important
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psychological relationship
between the two.
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To make sure that all the daemons were
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as accurate and realistic as possible,
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the production team
had an expert on hand.
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So I worked with the creature
department building the puppets
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so we would get them, I would
get them sort of reference,
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um, sizes and measurements and colours
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and we'd say, "This is
what it should look like".
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Another property is, we, um,
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when they first started, they
would often come into my office
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and kind of look at the
footage that we'd got
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so they could get a feel
for how the animals moved.
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The monkey, as well,
with Brian was another one
385
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that was obviously a big, big character
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that we wanted to get as
much emotion into as possible.
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Because it doesn't speak,
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so the only development of that
character comes from movement.
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One of the best things, in my eyes
as a biologist, from the books,
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is that Philip Pullman
did such a good job
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of casting the animals for the daemons.
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Some of the more solitary characters
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like Lord Asriel has a snow leopard,
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and you just think, you know,
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that snow leopards as a
kind of species in real life,
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uh, you know, they're
kind of mysterious,
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they're kind of very
enigmatic and charismatic,
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they survive by themselves
in very harsh environments,
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and you think, "Well, actually,
that's what Lord Asriel is".
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We actually worked together.
401
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You're working with another
actor in a lot of ways.
402
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And I love Stelmaria
403
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and I love the fact that we
can work symbiotically as a duo
404
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because everybody in
Lyra's world works as a duo.
405
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So even just walking
into a room we were like,
406
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"Who walks in first, me or Stel?"
407
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You know, and it's like, I
think it's a dangerous situation.
408
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I think Stel might go first
409
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as her senses are
more in tune than mine,
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so she'd maybe run in, scope
it, and I come in after her.
411
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Do you know what I
mean? And that's quite...
412
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Just decisions like that
are really interesting to me.
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Lyuba, soul, companion
and protector of my son.
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That was really, really useful
415
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just because it constantly
reminded us of their presence.
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Just to have a tangible
nature of something,
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just for its height, for
the way it might move,
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for the size of it, you
know, or the weight of it.
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You know, if you've
got a bird on your arm,
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then it's very important to storytell
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that there is some weight behind that.
422
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It informs everything,
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it's sort of the missing actors
in the scene at any given time.
424
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It's really wonderful,
and the puppeteers here
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are so incredible that, you know,
426
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as soon as Hester's in their
hands, she comes to life.
427
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Especially with children around,
428
00:20:04,949 --> 00:20:07,251
it's important that those
puppets were there, I think.
429
00:20:07,253 --> 00:20:08,395
It doesn't take very long
430
00:20:08,397 --> 00:20:10,779
for a child to attach
something to a puppet, you know.
431
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And watching that has
been really good fun.
432
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They're vital to the piece,
433
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and without that, it
wouldn't be the show it is.
434
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Yes, we are in a world full
of make-believe and magic,
435
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but it helps to have a little
magical assistance, shall we say.
436
00:20:25,749 --> 00:20:29,388
The daemons weren't the only
magical component to this story.
437
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There was one particular prop
that was integral to the show.
438
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- What is it?
- It's an alethiometer.
439
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If you read Philip's description,
440
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it embodies the description
of Lyra's alethiometer,
441
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but it's practically, it's
just has a different form to it.
442
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And that also fits more, I think,
443
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with the mid-century sense of
timelessness that we were going for
444
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than perhaps something
that feels more elaborate.
445
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:57,148
I loved the alethiometer, it's
brilliant, it's really heavy.
446
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I actually had, like, the shoulder
bag from Mrs. Coulter's episode,
447
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it kept on breaking
because of the weight of it.
448
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But it's amazing. It has
literally all of the drawings.
449
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You can, like, move the needles.
450
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This is another bit of a design journey
451
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because of what it means to the
audience, what it means to the book.
452
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And with the alethiometer,
there wasn't really
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a conscious decision
to make it not round,
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'cause it is kind of round as it were,
455
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uh, but there was a kind
of feeling I had that
456
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I didn't really want it to look
like a Victorian pocket watch.
457
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Ironically, actually, I was trying
to find something that probably
458
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was not inside the mind of the fans,
459
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ie, round, for a start, because
I wanted to explore other shapes
460
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and feelings and sizes.
461
00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:43,228
It wasn't to be controversial,
it was actually just,
462
00:21:43,229 --> 00:21:46,598
um, trying to not push the audience away
463
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because they'd go, "Well,
I'm not interested in
464
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a Victorian pocket watch",
you know? Just...
465
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I wanted it to, like, look special.
466
00:21:53,589 --> 00:21:56,308
I break everything, but I did
not break the alethiometer,
467
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because Props were like, "If
you break the alethiometer,
468
00:21:58,749 --> 00:22:00,148
that is very expensive".
469
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I think our alethiometer
is really special.
470
00:22:03,589 --> 00:22:09,148
Um, and it's special in its own
way and I hope people will like it.
471
00:22:09,149 --> 00:22:13,988
From designing the little details
to construction on a grand scale,
472
00:22:13,989 --> 00:22:17,908
production really did impress
with their Nordic fishing town.
473
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:20,548
Trollesund in particular
has been my favourite
474
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:24,308
because you really are
transported to a small, gritty,
475
00:22:24,309 --> 00:22:28,308
hard-bitten, dangerous outpost
somewhere far, far away.
476
00:22:28,309 --> 00:22:30,578
Go see the witches' consul,
get whatever help you can
477
00:22:30,580 --> 00:22:32,468
and then we leave here
as fast as possible.
478
00:22:32,469 --> 00:22:35,548
And they've got half a dead
whale and the blubber machine,
479
00:22:35,549 --> 00:22:38,388
and it's just all so real and visceral.
480
00:22:38,389 --> 00:22:40,388
Just blows my mind.
481
00:22:40,389 --> 00:22:45,028
It's exactly what you want when
you're fulfilling a fantasy world
482
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:47,228
that so many people have
imagined in their own minds.
483
00:22:47,229 --> 00:22:48,788
I was looking at a window
484
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:51,628
and there was, like,
lentils or something,
485
00:22:51,629 --> 00:22:54,868
but it had a label about
how much these were.
486
00:22:54,869 --> 00:22:57,028
Now, that was never,
ever going to be featured,
487
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:59,228
all those jars and bottles and things,
488
00:22:59,229 --> 00:23:02,879
but someone had taken
the time to do all that,
489
00:23:02,881 --> 00:23:04,748
and that's what gives it...
490
00:23:04,749 --> 00:23:06,668
You think it doesn't matter,
491
00:23:06,669 --> 00:23:08,668
you think, "Well, nobody's
going to see that".
492
00:23:08,669 --> 00:23:11,468
But actually, it does matter.
493
00:23:11,469 --> 00:23:15,308
Building this entire town
wasn't an ostentatious affair.
494
00:23:15,309 --> 00:23:17,908
There was actually a pragmatic
thought process behind it.
495
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:20,508
Dan May and I were very closely
working together, as we do.
496
00:23:20,509 --> 00:23:23,708
He saw it as a kind of weak spot.
We know it's going to be expensive,
497
00:23:23,709 --> 00:23:26,388
we know it's going to be a huge
undertaking to do it authentically,
498
00:23:26,389 --> 00:23:27,548
do it well
499
00:23:27,549 --> 00:23:29,908
when actually, the cost
of the bear and the daemons
500
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:32,028
and things like that are
going to be extraordinary
501
00:23:32,029 --> 00:23:34,508
and if you then put
environmental work in every shot,
502
00:23:34,509 --> 00:23:35,948
you've got real problems.
503
00:23:35,949 --> 00:23:38,228
It was an amazing feat, it
was literally a whole town
504
00:23:38,229 --> 00:23:42,628
with interiors, exteriors, a dock,
roofs and it was for one episode.
505
00:23:42,629 --> 00:23:45,948
We literally squeezed every bit
of that town out for that episode,
506
00:23:45,949 --> 00:23:48,428
and I think it's very exciting.
507
00:23:48,429 --> 00:23:49,934
Dan May and I, we'd work together
508
00:23:49,936 --> 00:23:52,068
because I'd want him to try and work out
509
00:23:52,069 --> 00:23:54,908
the gap between the VFX and live
action world with me, you know.
510
00:23:54,909 --> 00:23:57,668
It's what we do, him and I
have worked together for years.
511
00:23:57,669 --> 00:24:00,428
By the time Trollesund came
round in pre-production,
512
00:24:00,429 --> 00:24:02,188
we already had, um,
513
00:24:02,189 --> 00:24:06,428
done a lot of concept art for Joel
and what we thought it would be.
514
00:24:06,429 --> 00:24:09,108
And then from that, we generated
a bunch of buildings and things
515
00:24:09,109 --> 00:24:12,388
and you can orientate them around
into various different layouts.
516
00:24:12,389 --> 00:24:16,388
We had to basically find this
location that really didn't exist.
517
00:24:16,389 --> 00:24:20,908
We found this quarry, so part of
the process was to scan and plan
518
00:24:20,909 --> 00:24:25,348
that environment out so that we
could do some 3D storyboarding
519
00:24:25,349 --> 00:24:29,748
and some more complicated pre-vis
sequences involving the bear.
520
00:24:29,749 --> 00:24:32,668
Um, so two big sequences we did were
521
00:24:32,669 --> 00:24:36,229
the bear armour retrieval sequence.
522
00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:39,788
If it was a normal
chase scene with humans,
523
00:24:39,789 --> 00:24:43,348
you'd shoot it very, very
phonetically and cutty
524
00:24:43,349 --> 00:24:45,148
and you'd have a lot
of different shots in it
525
00:24:45,149 --> 00:24:47,291
and you'd kind of, you'd fly
the camera round the place.
526
00:24:47,293 --> 00:24:48,955
And what we saw in the pre-vis
527
00:24:48,957 --> 00:24:52,427
was actually by slowing it
down and seeing the sort of
528
00:24:52,429 --> 00:24:56,708
scale and geography of this enormous
beast rampaging through town.
529
00:24:56,709 --> 00:24:58,428
So because of the pre-vis,
530
00:24:58,429 --> 00:24:59,788
I actually ended up shooting it
531
00:24:59,789 --> 00:25:02,628
a lot, a lot simpler than I
would have without the pre-vis,
532
00:25:02,629 --> 00:25:05,068
which means you save an
enormous amount of time,
533
00:25:05,069 --> 00:25:07,508
you save an enormous
amount of money on VFX.
534
00:25:07,509 --> 00:25:11,948
So it's an expensive process,
pre-vis, but it's, without question,
535
00:25:11,949 --> 00:25:14,988
does... you know, absolutely,
definitely saves you time
536
00:25:14,989 --> 00:25:17,868
and is a really,
really supportive thing,
537
00:25:17,869 --> 00:25:21,188
both from a production level,
but also creatively as well.
538
00:25:21,189 --> 00:25:23,308
Iorek is key to this story
539
00:25:23,309 --> 00:25:27,268
and like the daemons, he
needed to be represented on set.
540
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:30,988
Performing this role was
a novel experience for Joe.
541
00:25:30,989 --> 00:25:33,948
Iorek Byrnison, can we talk with you?
542
00:25:33,949 --> 00:25:37,348
I know the people you are seeking.
543
00:25:37,349 --> 00:25:39,548
I've done characters and voiceovers work
544
00:25:39,549 --> 00:25:40,988
and motion capture before,
545
00:25:40,989 --> 00:25:42,868
but obviously I've
never done puppeteering,
546
00:25:42,869 --> 00:25:45,336
which was... It's a challenge.
547
00:25:45,338 --> 00:25:47,548
I mean, if you've never done it
before, it's quite challenging.
548
00:25:47,549 --> 00:25:50,308
When you play a character like this,
549
00:25:50,309 --> 00:25:53,788
you'll have to know how they move
before you know how they act,
550
00:25:53,789 --> 00:25:56,645
like, before you start acting.
And so it was very important for me
551
00:25:56,647 --> 00:25:58,619
to understand the
weight of him, you know,
552
00:25:58,621 --> 00:26:02,828
I can't move my feet the way that
a polar bear moves his front paws.
553
00:26:02,829 --> 00:26:06,268
And so was important to
understand all of that technically
554
00:26:06,269 --> 00:26:08,508
before we started filming it,
555
00:26:08,509 --> 00:26:11,508
but also very important for the
other actors, I think, and me
556
00:26:11,509 --> 00:26:14,748
to, um, to have in those scenes
557
00:26:14,749 --> 00:26:17,588
because it just helps
the whole atmosphere of
558
00:26:17,589 --> 00:26:20,868
having a giant creature next to you.
559
00:26:20,869 --> 00:26:24,628
The reference dots, um,
as glamorous as they are,
560
00:26:24,629 --> 00:26:27,046
uh, you, yeah, you
kind of forget about it,
561
00:26:27,048 --> 00:26:29,028
it becomes part of the costume, really.
562
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:31,724
So when I have the
camera in front of my face
563
00:26:31,726 --> 00:26:33,748
it captures all of the
movements that I have
564
00:26:33,749 --> 00:26:37,388
and they use the dots as
references to drive the animation.
565
00:26:37,389 --> 00:26:40,588
But it's so rewarding
because it's so liberating.
566
00:26:40,589 --> 00:26:43,908
You know, you get to... It's
very theatrical in a sense
567
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:48,428
that you get to play this
larger-than-life character.
568
00:26:48,429 --> 00:26:50,668
And I love playing
larger-than-life characters
569
00:26:50,669 --> 00:26:53,668
because it means that you
have to use your creativity
570
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:57,468
and your imagination to,
to realistically produce
571
00:26:57,469 --> 00:27:00,388
something that people can relate to.
572
00:27:00,389 --> 00:27:03,949
I am not for sale.
573
00:27:05,429 --> 00:27:08,628
Whilst Joe dedicated
himself to performing Iorek,
574
00:27:08,629 --> 00:27:11,708
there was still a technical
issue to deal with.
575
00:27:11,709 --> 00:27:15,148
How would Dafne ride this enormous bear?
576
00:27:15,149 --> 00:27:18,998
We didn't want to just have a
digital version of Lyra, you know,
577
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,948
galloping along on a digital polar
bear, so we had to build something.
578
00:27:22,949 --> 00:27:24,611
We didn't want it to be mechanical,
579
00:27:24,613 --> 00:27:28,388
because the repetition
of a mechanical device,
580
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:31,548
a clockwork sort of
device, is always visible.
581
00:27:31,549 --> 00:27:35,589
The best option for this is to
have a rig that is puppeteered.
582
00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:42,577
One of our rigs was a child
carrier with the shoulders
583
00:27:42,579 --> 00:27:45,828
and neck of the bear set on top of it
584
00:27:45,829 --> 00:27:50,388
that in the sort of motion
of the puppeteer underneath,
585
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:53,229
it would seem like
Lyra was riding a bear.
586
00:27:55,469 --> 00:27:57,068
Oh, I enjoy the riding.
587
00:27:57,069 --> 00:27:59,828
There's, like, this really weird,
like, mechanic riding rig
588
00:27:59,829 --> 00:28:01,868
which also has, like,
puppeteers underneath it,
589
00:28:01,869 --> 00:28:04,468
but still, it's mechanic.
It's really heavy for them.
590
00:28:04,469 --> 00:28:07,548
It was so bouncy when we did
the test that they had to, like,
591
00:28:07,549 --> 00:28:09,948
strap me onto it because I
was, like, jumping that much.
592
00:28:09,949 --> 00:28:11,908
It was like, boing, boing, boing.
593
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:15,428
Pragmatic problem-solving
wasn't exclusive to Iorek.
594
00:28:15,429 --> 00:28:19,708
A huge amount of thought went
into adapting our queen witch,
595
00:28:19,709 --> 00:28:21,149
Serafina Pekkala.
596
00:28:22,229 --> 00:28:25,126
We tried lots of different
things with, with the make up
597
00:28:25,128 --> 00:28:28,809
and the hair initially
to figure out who,
598
00:28:28,811 --> 00:28:31,948
who really she is and what
we want to bring to her.
599
00:28:31,949 --> 00:28:34,519
Because obviously, the look of Serafina
600
00:28:34,521 --> 00:28:36,308
is different from the
description in the book,
601
00:28:36,309 --> 00:28:38,588
and I'm sure a lot of people
will be wondering why
602
00:28:38,589 --> 00:28:41,348
we've decided to go
with, with the short hair,
603
00:28:41,349 --> 00:28:43,798
and one of the reasons
behind that was, so,
604
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,987
in the book she flies on a broomstick,
605
00:28:45,989 --> 00:28:49,068
and we wanted to make
her really powerful.
606
00:28:49,069 --> 00:28:52,948
And the idea that she flies,
that this is her cloud-pine,
607
00:28:52,949 --> 00:28:56,988
and that she flies using
wind thermals and currents,
608
00:28:56,989 --> 00:29:00,908
which is going to be incredibly
cool and quick and fast
609
00:29:00,909 --> 00:29:04,268
and if you're doing that and
you've got long, flowing hair,
610
00:29:04,269 --> 00:29:07,508
it's going to be distracting
and inhibiting for her.
611
00:29:07,509 --> 00:29:11,748
So we wanted to make her
strong and powerful and not a...
612
00:29:11,749 --> 00:29:16,868
Without any vanity whatsoever, so
we kept the hair short and fixed.
613
00:29:16,869 --> 00:29:20,148
And, um, and the make up, this,
614
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:24,028
was how we denoted that she is a queen,
615
00:29:24,029 --> 00:29:27,548
rather than the very delicate flowers.
616
00:29:27,549 --> 00:29:30,188
That's the whole other
journey that I've been on,
617
00:29:30,189 --> 00:29:32,708
to learn about visual effects.
618
00:29:32,709 --> 00:29:35,330
For example, the witches
in the book are described as
619
00:29:35,332 --> 00:29:38,388
wrapped in ribbons of black silk.
620
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:41,948
So ribbons of silk
flying all over the place
621
00:29:41,949 --> 00:29:43,211
would have been a nightmare,
622
00:29:43,213 --> 00:29:45,627
but I was still trying
to cling to the fact
623
00:29:45,629 --> 00:29:49,308
that it's fabric that's
wrapped round the body.
624
00:29:49,309 --> 00:29:54,828
We had to make a costume that
would look, um, of the Earth,
625
00:29:54,829 --> 00:29:58,748
of the forest. Like she had
just wrapped rags around her,
626
00:29:58,749 --> 00:30:01,011
but also be sturdy
enough for her to fly,
627
00:30:01,013 --> 00:30:04,707
for me to have a harness
underneath my costume.
628
00:30:04,709 --> 00:30:07,148
Uh, I've done a little bit
of wire work before this job,
629
00:30:07,149 --> 00:30:10,348
but, um, but nothing
quite as extensive as this.
630
00:30:10,349 --> 00:30:13,788
Most fun I think I've ever had on set.
631
00:30:13,789 --> 00:30:16,228
It's incredible, you actually
feel like you're flying.
632
00:30:16,229 --> 00:30:17,468
I am here to help.
633
00:30:17,469 --> 00:30:20,948
It's just remarkable, the
journey from a bow and arrow
634
00:30:20,949 --> 00:30:23,988
to tiny, tiny little daggers
635
00:30:23,989 --> 00:30:29,508
and the idea behind that being just
very short, sharp lethal weapons.
636
00:30:29,509 --> 00:30:33,228
It's such a brilliant idea and
just feeds into your character more.
637
00:30:33,229 --> 00:30:35,188
With such high expectations,
638
00:30:35,189 --> 00:30:37,268
how are our cast and crew feeling
639
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:39,388
about being a part of this adaptation?
640
00:30:39,389 --> 00:30:42,708
It is an honour, and it
is a tremendous honour
641
00:30:42,709 --> 00:30:45,908
to be given the opportunity
to adapt books this beautiful.
642
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:50,548
I hope we do it well. 'Cause if we
don't, I'll be gutted as a fan.
643
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:51,988
To get that tone right,
644
00:30:51,989 --> 00:30:55,668
and to give the fans what they
want is quite a daunting challenge.
645
00:30:55,669 --> 00:31:00,108
Have this extraordinary fondness
for the, the ideas in this project.
646
00:31:00,109 --> 00:31:04,948
We are trying to be as
true to the books as we can.
647
00:31:04,949 --> 00:31:06,972
You can so easily get it wrong,
648
00:31:06,974 --> 00:31:09,028
and I'm desperately,
desperately trying not to.
649
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:11,908
I'm thrilled to be here
and play Lee Scoresby,
650
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:14,148
and be the American on set.
651
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:17,140
With series one wrapped up and Lyra
652
00:31:17,142 --> 00:31:19,628
off on the next part of her journey,
653
00:31:19,629 --> 00:31:24,811
there'll be a whole new adventure
for everyone in series two.
654
00:31:24,813 --> 00:31:27,813
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