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[ Marvin Gaye's "I Heard It
through the Grapevine" plays ]
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♪ Ooh, I bet you wondered... ♪
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SHOCKLEE: I started collecting
records at the age of 5,
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and the first single I bought
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was "I Want To Hold Your Hand"
by The Beatles.
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♪ With some other guy
you knew before ♪
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I mean, my first record I bought
was "Be‐Bop‐A‐Lula"
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by Gene Vincent.
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Whew.
Magical.
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♪ Took me by surprise ♪
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CARPENTER: I do remember
the very first 45 I bought
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was "I Heard It
through the Grapevine,"
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and singing in the kitchen
with my sisters.
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♪ ...the grapevine ♪
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♪ Not much longer would you... ♪
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NARRATOR: Records,
cassettes, CDs, and MP3s.
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These are not just vehicles
for music.
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They are reflections
of ourselves
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and the times we live in.
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♪ You turned me on ♪
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HOROVITZ:
So, you had your cassette,
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and you'd put
all your favorite songs on it.
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MILNER:
Make a collection
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that you wanted to give
to someone you liked.
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HOROVITZ: This is how I feel,
you know, about you.
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[ Classical music plays ]
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NARRATOR:
As technology has evolved,
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each generation has had a format
to call its own.
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When I was born,
people were listening to vinyl.
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[ Graham Central Station's
"Your Love" playing ]
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♪ Your love ♪
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McDANIELS: The first album
I paid my own allowance for
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was Larry Graham
and Graham Central Station.
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That was my album.
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♪ And your kiss... ♪
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VEGA: Everything about vinyl
was great.
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The smell of it when you took it
out of the package.
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JIMMY JAM:
You'd get liner notes,
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which I always loved to read.
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ST. VINCENT: I knew
who engineered that record,
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and I knew
who produced that record.
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That was my complete
and total obsession.
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NELSON: This is
my modern‐day jukebox here,
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where I can hear new music
as it comes out.
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They send it to me.
They MP3 me.
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You can get access
to all the songs on the planet,
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and I think that is brilliant.
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CHUCK D: We're heading
to a whole bunch of new rules.
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Like, some people are like, "Oh,
I miss going to a record store
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and just taking the record
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and opening it up
and smelling the [Sniffs]
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Well, I say,
"Well, you're being a romantic.
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I mean, that's wonderful.
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Let's write some books
about it."
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NARRATOR:
This is the story
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of our on‐again, off‐again
love affair with musical formats
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and how magical pieces
of wax, plastic, and silicon
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changed the world.
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All people
always think their time,
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their music, was better.
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Mine actually was.
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[ Guitar strumming ]
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‐HARRISON: What key is it in?
‐MAN: What key is it...
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McCARTNEY:
It'll be in F for you.
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SPECTOR: Here we go.
Just one more time.
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FRANKLIN: Right after I say,
"Are you sure?"
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Da da da ‐‐ yeah.
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MAN: Oh.
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WILSON: Hal, here's how
I want to do it. It's like this.
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BOWIE: All right, it's fun time.
Fun time.
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‐MAN #1: Here we go.
‐MAN #2: Oh, really?
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MAN #1: 17, take one.
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MAN #3:
This will be a keeper.
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[ Woman laughs ]
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[ Up‐tempo jazz music playing ]
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BAMBAATAA:
Way back, before my time,
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they had the turntable that
you used to have to crank up.
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Then it has this big, fat needle
with a little pin on it,
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and it could get on the record,
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and you might hear the crack
and pops poppin' in it,
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and they used to hear
the song comin' through a horn.
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You might not have had no bass,
but you had a lot of treble,
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but you still was ready
to dance with it.
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GRANATA:
Those old 78 RPM records ‐‐
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The grooves were cut into
shellac and were very noisy.
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Those 78s, their playing time
was three minutes, each side.
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The 78 was, you know, big,
and it broke.
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[ Music stops abruptly ]
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[ Record breaking ]
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[ Big‐band music plays ]
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GRANATA:
In the 1940s, two major rivals
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had been experimenting
with a way
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to create a quieter record
with a longer playing time.
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There was Columbia,
headed by William Paley,
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and RCA Victor, which was headed
by David Sarnoff.
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Sarnoff had RCA,
and they had everything, okay?
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They had radio.
They invented the record player.
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They invented the record,
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the record
being the 10‐inch shellac 78.
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So, in 1948, Sarnoff, going
along merrily, owning the world,
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and this upstart Paley,
10 years younger,
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invites him to the CBS office
and says, "Listen, David,
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we want you to hear
our new product."
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And he plays him
the first 33 album.
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‐[ Classical music plays ]
‐MAN: A new kind of record,
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LPs play for 25 instead of
4 minutes without interruption.
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GRANATA: As though it were
a top‐secret mission,
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Paley had his engineers create
a long‐playing vinyl record
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before RCA had the chance
to come out with their version,
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so that really aggravated
Sarnoff.
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VAN ZANDT:
So, Sarnoff leaves there
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and calls his entire office
into the room,
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and says, you know,
"You have exactly five minutes
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to explain to me how this punk
beat me to the punch
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with something new."
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And they go through
all their files
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looking for some way
to combat this,
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and they go all the way back
to their very first record.
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[ Jazz music playing ]
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It happened to be a 7‐inch disc.
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And they create the 7‐inch 45.
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MAN: On the new distortion‐free
RCA Victor 45 RPM record.
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♪ Come on‐a my house, my house ♪
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♪ I'm gonna give you apple, a
plum, and an apricot, too, ah ♪
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GRANATA: What are teenagers
listening to on the radio?
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They're listening
to one song, two songs,
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that are the most popular.
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So let's come out with a disc
that has two songs on it,
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and we'll sell it for 50 cents.
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VAN ZANDT: And, along
with the kid's records,
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the kid's record player,
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which he takes into his room
by himself to play his records.
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And a whole new thing is born
called "teenage rock 'n' roll."
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♪ Ooh, well, I've got a girl
with a record machine ♪
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♪ When it comes to rocking,
she's the queen ♪
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ANKA:
Music was everywhere,
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and it was always a social event
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based around
that funny little machine.
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♪ The elevator's broken down ♪
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BECK: To hear Eddie Cochran,
"Twenty Flight Rock."
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That was it, when this thing
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used to whirl around and almost
rattle itself off the table
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'cause it's spinning so fast.
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♪ Say, come on over, honey,
I'm all alone ♪
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DALTREY:
The rock single was the thing
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that really made us all
want to be rock singers
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or guitarists or in a band,
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and it was the noise of it.
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♪ So I walked one,
two flight, three flight, four ♪
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♪ Five, six, seven flight,
eight flight, more ♪
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MARTIN:
What amazed me
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was the sheer technical ferocity
of the stuff.
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‐Volume.
‐♪ I'm too tired to rock ♪
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I could actually see
the loudness
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of the record in the groove.
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The louder
you could make a pop record,
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the better
it was likely to sell.
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♪ Ooh‐ooh, ooh ♪
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ROONEY: Rock 'n' roll
was considered bad
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for the youth of America
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by a lot of people,
mostly adults.
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♪ Daddy, Daddy, Daddy,
love me strong ♪
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♪ I don't mind it
if it's all night, Daddy ♪
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Music was segregated
during the '50s.
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People used to call black music
race music.
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And a lot of the people
used to think
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that it was
a little too suggestive.
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♪ When you thrill me
like you thrill me ♪
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♪ With a touch that always
fills me with love ♪
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♪ So fine, ooh ♪
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♪ In the morning... ♪
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The 45 records,
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I think, did a lot
for bringing the races together.
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I think it was beginning of
the end for that old race music.
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STOLLER: Jerry and I
were young white kids,
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even though we liked
to think of ourselves as black,
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who loved black music,
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and those were the artists
that we wanted to write for.
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LEIBER:
I first met Big Mama Thornton
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in Johnny Otis' rehearsal space.
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She was quite intimidating.
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STOLLER:
She had a few scars on her face,
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looked like razor scars,
but she could sing.
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♪ I said, oh, oh, baby ♪
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♪ Why you wanna ♪
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♪ Why you wanna do
these mean things to me? ♪
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The A&R man, Johnny Otis,
called and said,
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"I'm doing a session with her,
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and I need songs,
so you better come on down."
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LEIBER: She was wearing
old farmer jeans.
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She looked like she didn't have
much use for guys like us.
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STOLLER: Her actual
physical being inspired Jerry.
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I think it probably
took us about 10 minutes
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to write "Hound Dog."
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LEIBER:
I said, "You know what, man?
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I'm not happy with this song."
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I said, "'You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog' is not ‐‐
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It's not enough kick.
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I want something really dirty,
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like 'Dirty Mother Furrier'
don't you know?"
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And I said, "No, they
won't play that on the radio."
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I really want something
that's really kick‐ass.
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Hound dog?
I mean, give me a break.
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We attempted
to interest her in the song.
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She snatched the paper
out of my hand.
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She said, "What's this?"
I said, "That's the song."
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She said, "This the song?"
I said, "Yeah."
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♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ♪
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STOLLER:
I remember Jerry saying,
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"It doesn't go like that,
Big Mama."
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She said, "White boy, don't tell
me how to sing the blues."
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♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ♪
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♪ Been snooping
around the door ♪
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And we knew we had a hit.
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♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ♪
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♪ Been snooping around my door ♪
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♪ You can wag your tail ♪
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♪ But I ain't gonna feed
you no more ♪
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♪ You told me
you was high class ♪
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JOHN:
My mum came home with a record.
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She said,
"I've just heard this record,
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and it's a sort of music
I've never heard before."
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She said, "But it's fantastic."
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And she said, "Listen to it."
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♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ♪
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♪ Crying all the time ♪
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♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ♪
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It was a total introduction
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to a different sort
of music, obviously,
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which I found out later
to have its roots in blues
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and rockabilly and folk
and country and gospel.
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But, you know, Elvis Presley,
you know, was the one.
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♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ♪
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♪ Crying all the time ♪
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Thanks to Elvis, we were able
to combine a mixture
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of what they thought
white felt and what blacks felt.
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♪ And you ain't no friend
of mine ♪
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♪ Well, they said
you was high‐classed ♪
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Elvis brought a style of his own
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of wiggling his behind
and what have you
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and singing the same song
by Big Mama Thornton,
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and all of a sudden,
it became acceptable.
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[ Screaming ]
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♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ♪
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When I heard
Elvis' rendition of "Hound Dog,"
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I thought
it was kind of rockabilly,
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didn't have any blood in it.
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STOLLER: But, after it sold
7 million records,
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it started to sound better.
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♪ Well, you ain't never
caught a rabbit ♪
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♪ You ain't no friend of mine ♪
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[ Music ends, screaming ]
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GRANATA: Big Mama Thornton's
recording of "Hound Dog" in 1953
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did very well.
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It was a 78 RPM
that sold between half a million
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and a million copies.
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When Elvis' came out
on a 45 RPM record in 1956,
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it sold 10 million copies.
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And that was a turning point
for the 45.
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[ "In the Wee Small Hours
of the Morning" plays ]
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Meanwhile, other artists
are beginning to make inroads
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with the 33 1/3 LP.
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♪ In the wee small hours
of the morning ♪
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♪ While the whole wide world
is fast asleep ♪
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By 1954, Frank Sinatra
is at the top of his game,
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the sweet spot
for his voice and his work.
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At the same time, he's got
this deep emotional upheaval,
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'cause he's really carrying
a torch for Ava Gardner,
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to whom he's still married,
but not with.
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He's already broken up with her.
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[ "Mood Indigo" plays ]
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And when he walked
into the Capitol studio
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to record
"In the Wee Small Hours,"
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he understood that he could use
this new format, the LP,
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for long‐form expression.
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♪ You ain't been blue ♪
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♪ No, no, no ♪
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ROSEN:
Before the long‐playing record,
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we had a 3‐minute‐long song.
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Now we could have
a long‐form musical story,
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and so Sinatra
created this crazy thing
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called the "concept record."
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♪ Till you've had
that mood indigo ♪
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GRANATA: Frank sat
with little pieces of paper
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with each song title on it,
286
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and he would shuffle them around
so that they told a story.
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16 songs, single statement ‐‐
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what it's like to lose
your love.
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♪ While I sit and sigh ♪
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Frank always wanted Ava back,
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and what we hear
in "In the Wee Small Hours"
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is a reflection of that anguish
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that he had lost
this great love of his life.
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♪ Always get that mood indigo ♪
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♪ Since my baby said goodbye ♪
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♪ In the evening
when the lights are low ♪
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♪ I'm so lonely I could cry ♪
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This landmark album coincided
with true high‐fidelity sound,
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the LP, magnetic tape,
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and these gorgeous
Neumann microphones
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that gave you
the most incredible richness.
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I mean, as we're sitting here
at Capitol,
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I still get blown away
by this room.
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Right on that exact spot
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there was
a full orchestra setup,
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and Sinatra was facing this way,
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and he sang all the songs.
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CASH: I was just
in the old Capitol building,
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and we went in that room
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where Sinatra
recorded with Nelson Riddle
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those great classic records.
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And that microphone.
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It was just so goosebump‐y.
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♪ While I just sit around
and sigh ♪
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♪ Go 'long blues ♪
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GRANATA:
In creating this concept album,
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Sinatra solidified a format
for all of music to follow.
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When 78 RPM discs
were the format,
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and the only format out there,
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it didn't really matter in jazz
whether it was a small group,
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a singer and band, a big band,
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they would all kind of record
the same way,
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which was we've got
to get this in and done
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within 3 1/2 minutes.
325
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[ "Hot House" plays ]
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WAS: If you listen
to a Charlie Parker 78,
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they're short solos.
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It just goes around
a couple of times,
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and then he's out of time.
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So, suddenly, the LP
gave jazz musicians
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the opportunity
to express themselves.
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[ Miles Davis' "So What" plays ]
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KAHN:
In the spring of 1959,
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Miles Davis went into
the New York Columbia Studio
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and recorded "Kind of Blue."
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[ Trumpet solo ]
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Miles Davis created new kinds
of freedoms,
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the idea of modal scales,
no chordal structures.
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He wanted to kind of allow the
individual voices of the soloist
340
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to come through and begin
speak in extended paragraphs.
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The tracks
are all roughly 9 minutes,
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10 minutes, 12 minutes long.
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It was released
in August of '59,
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and by the end of that year,
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it had already become the bible
for many musicians.
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WAS: "Kind of Blue," you know,
it's still in the jazz top 10.
347
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[ Laughs ]
Can you imagine that?
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I don't know that it ever left.
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♪ Love Potion Number Nine ♪
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DEEJAY: Number four,
"Love Potion Number Nine."
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ANKA: Well, the '50s
and the early '60s,
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the single record was the thing.
353
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If you didn't have that,
354
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you didn't get the album,
which was the follow‐through,
355
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and then you didn't have
a career.
356
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♪ 93 KHJ ♪
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DEEJAY:
24 minutes now before 9:00.
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JAMES:
And radio was the way
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you put new records
in front of the public,
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‐so I loved AM radio.
‐DEEJAY: Be happy.
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Come on, everybody. It's
a beautiful night in Chicago.
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JAMES: These 50,000‐watt
clear‐channel stations ‐‐
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I mean, WLS in Chicago would hit
10 million to 20 million people.
364
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Hi, everybody all over America.
This is your Cousin Brucie.
365
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It's the WABC party.
Go, go. Whoo!
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JAMES:
They'd hit 38 states at night.
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MAN: [ Echoing ]
Number one!
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♪ You never close your eyes ♪
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JAMES: There's nothing more
exciting thing on this earth
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than an exploding
smash‐hit single,
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because it just ‐‐
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It happens everywhere at once,
and it just goes.
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It's like an atomic bomb.
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DEEJAY: Tommy James
and the Shondells, "Mony Mony."
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ANKA:
So, you knew going in the studio
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that everything you had to say
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had to be no longer
than 2 minutes and 30 seconds,
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or shorter, if you wanted
to get on the radio.
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DEEJAY: ...shall return with
"Stop! In the Name of Love."
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♪ On the "Dan Ingram Show" ♪
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ROBERTSON:
This is, like, 1965.
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We were zooming
around Manhattan.
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♪ Action Central News ♪
384
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And John Hammond Jr. said,
385
00:20:18,625 --> 00:20:21,025
"Listen, a friend of mine
is recording,
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and I said
I would stop in and say hello
387
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and hear a little bit
of what he's doing."
388
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So we went
to Columbia Recording Studios.
389
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[ Bob Dylan's "Like
a Rolling Stone" playing ]
390
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And Bob Dylan
and these musicians
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were in there recording,
392
00:20:38,825 --> 00:20:40,992
and they were recording
"Like a Rolling Stone."
393
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♪ Once upon a time,
you dressed so fine ♪
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♪ Threw the bums a dime
in your prime ♪
395
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♪ Didn't you? ♪
396
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♪ People call, say,
"Beware, doll ♪
397
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♪ You're bound to fall,"
you thought they were all ♪
398
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♪ Kidding you ♪
399
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And I didn't know him,
but I thought,
400
00:21:02,658 --> 00:21:04,692
"This song
is really interesting."
401
00:21:04,692 --> 00:21:07,792
It was like a different kind
of songwriting.
402
00:21:07,792 --> 00:21:11,458
Dion from Dion and the Belmonts
was there.
403
00:21:11,458 --> 00:21:13,058
DION:
It was great to watch.
404
00:21:13,058 --> 00:21:16,692
Dylan had recorded some albums
with just his guitar,
405
00:21:16,692 --> 00:21:18,392
and now he had
a few of the guys
406
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from the Brill Building come up
and played with, you know,
407
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drums, a full band behind him.
408
00:21:24,792 --> 00:21:29,625
♪ Your next meal ♪
409
00:21:29,625 --> 00:21:32,058
♪ How does it feel ♪
410
00:21:32,058 --> 00:21:33,458
It was exciting.
411
00:21:33,458 --> 00:21:37,892
He was like somebody let him
out of a cage or something.
412
00:21:37,892 --> 00:21:42,058
He knew what he was about and
exactly what he wanted to do.
413
00:21:42,058 --> 00:21:44,158
You couldn't sway him,
414
00:21:44,158 --> 00:21:46,658
'cause I heard some musicians
say, "Listen, you can't do."
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He said, "Follow me."
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♪ Like a rolling stone ♪
417
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"Like a Rolling Stone,"
in my opinion,
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is the greatest single
anyone has ever made.
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It's a really
ambitious statement
420
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to put in a rock 'n' roll 45
421
00:22:02,892 --> 00:22:05,658
just a couple years past,
like, "Be My Baby."
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00:22:06,525 --> 00:22:08,825
♪ At Napoleon in rags ♪
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♪ And the language
that he used ♪
424
00:22:11,225 --> 00:22:15,125
♪ Go to him now, he calls you,
you can't refuse ♪
425
00:22:16,392 --> 00:22:17,992
♪ When you ain't got nothing ♪
426
00:22:17,992 --> 00:22:21,592
♪ You got nothing to lose ♪
427
00:22:21,592 --> 00:22:23,225
♪ You're invisible now ♪
428
00:22:23,225 --> 00:22:27,058
♪ You've got no secrets
to conceal ♪
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SPITZ: Columbia had really
become an album company.
430
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Bob makes what is perhaps
the longest single ever made.
431
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It's six minutes long.
432
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♪ To be on your own ♪
433
00:22:43,525 --> 00:22:48,525
♪ With no direction home ♪
434
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♪ Like a complete unknown ♪
435
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"Like a Rolling Stone,"
all of a sudden,
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it becomes a hit single.
437
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DEEJAY: Now Bobby Dylan
comes front and center at WHK
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with song number six
on the survey.
439
00:23:01,525 --> 00:23:02,992
This is called
"Like a Rolling Stone."
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00:23:02,992 --> 00:23:06,692
You're gonna hear the whole
six‐minute version here.
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00:23:08,358 --> 00:23:11,192
WAS: I think the impact of radio
was huge, you know,
442
00:23:11,192 --> 00:23:16,892
but maybe we can offer more to
go along with the advertising.
443
00:23:16,892 --> 00:23:22,592
♪ You walk into the room
with your pencil in your hand ♪
444
00:23:23,392 --> 00:23:24,658
♪ You see somebody naked ♪
445
00:23:24,658 --> 00:23:26,625
Bob Dylan,
you know what he did?
446
00:23:26,625 --> 00:23:29,792
He brought in thinking
single‐handedly.
447
00:23:29,792 --> 00:23:31,725
And it was brought home to me
by John Lennon,
448
00:23:31,725 --> 00:23:34,092
who adored Bob Dylan,
449
00:23:34,092 --> 00:23:38,258
and Dylan would use phrases
that Lennon would pick up on.
450
00:23:38,258 --> 00:23:39,525
So, he picked up
on those lyrics.
451
00:23:39,525 --> 00:23:40,925
Well, we can actually tell
the truth?
452
00:23:40,925 --> 00:23:42,858
You know, we can actually
talk about our own lives?
453
00:23:42,858 --> 00:23:44,692
♪ Something is happening here ♪
454
00:23:44,692 --> 00:23:48,992
♪ But you don't know
what it is ♪
455
00:23:49,525 --> 00:23:55,125
♪ Do you, Mr. Jones? ♪
456
00:23:55,125 --> 00:23:57,292
People really
didn't do that very much.
457
00:23:57,292 --> 00:24:00,058
I mean, Sinatra certainly
sounded like he was doing it,
458
00:24:00,058 --> 00:24:02,758
but now here's Dylan
actually throwing in something
459
00:24:02,758 --> 00:24:05,258
that certainly
seemed autobiographical.
460
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♪ And somebody points to you
and says, "It's his" ♪
461
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DONAHUE: This is Tom Donahue
back in action.
462
00:24:13,325 --> 00:24:15,092
This is KSAN in San Francisco.
463
00:24:15,092 --> 00:24:16,725
Rachel and I
will be here until midnight.
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VAN ZANDT:
Around '69, FM radio started,
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which meant, you know, the
deejays were slowed down now.
466
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DEEJAY: And that's the way it
was, and that's the way it is,
467
00:24:26,225 --> 00:24:28,692
and it's always changing,
and it is always the same.
468
00:24:28,692 --> 00:24:31,292
VAN ZANDT: And they were
talking more conversationally,
469
00:24:31,292 --> 00:24:35,425
and it was all sort of being
taken much more seriously.
470
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♪ Ah ♪
471
00:24:39,658 --> 00:24:43,958
♪ Now, I don't hardly know her ♪
472
00:24:43,958 --> 00:24:45,992
We went out
with Hubert Humphrey
473
00:24:45,992 --> 00:24:49,092
in 1968
on the presidential campaign.
474
00:24:49,092 --> 00:24:51,425
He was, of course,
running for president.
475
00:24:51,425 --> 00:24:52,425
He was the vice president.
476
00:24:52,425 --> 00:24:56,992
♪ Crimson and clover ♪
477
00:24:57,525 --> 00:25:00,825
Well, when
we went out on the campaign...
478
00:25:01,392 --> 00:25:02,725
...the big acts of the day
479
00:25:02,725 --> 00:25:05,425
were The Rascals,
The Association,
480
00:25:05,425 --> 00:25:09,425
The Buckinghams,
Gary Puckett, us.
481
00:25:09,425 --> 00:25:12,292
You know ‐‐ all singles acts.
482
00:25:12,292 --> 00:25:15,958
90 days later,
when we get back, no kidding,
483
00:25:15,958 --> 00:25:18,358
the hottest acts
are Led Zeppelin,
484
00:25:18,358 --> 00:25:19,725
Blood, Sweat & Tears,
485
00:25:19,725 --> 00:25:22,158
Crosby, Stills & Nash ‐‐
486
00:25:22,158 --> 00:25:23,692
all album acts.
487
00:25:23,692 --> 00:25:26,158
We knew that if we were
gonna stay in this business,
488
00:25:26,158 --> 00:25:27,425
we had to sell albums.
489
00:25:29,692 --> 00:25:31,025
VAN ZANDT:
Led Zeppelin, I believe,
490
00:25:31,025 --> 00:25:32,758
was the first one
to tell the record company
491
00:25:32,758 --> 00:25:35,358
they were not permitted
to put out a hit single anymore,
492
00:25:35,358 --> 00:25:37,425
because they were
just so uncool.
493
00:25:40,983 --> 00:25:44,516
All of a sudden, the '50s,
494
00:25:44,516 --> 00:25:47,883
people are on album covers,
they're all smiling.
495
00:25:47,883 --> 00:25:49,483
The '60s hit,
496
00:25:49,483 --> 00:25:52,116
you didn't smile
on album covers anymore.
497
00:25:52,116 --> 00:25:54,350
Kennedy was assassinated.
498
00:25:54,350 --> 00:25:57,883
Rock 'n' roll
went down about five octaves.
499
00:25:57,883 --> 00:25:59,483
It got serious.
500
00:25:59,483 --> 00:26:03,716
WAS: All of a sudden, the album
took on all this value.
501
00:26:03,716 --> 00:26:06,550
You didn't want to miss a ‐‐
You wanted every song.
502
00:26:06,550 --> 00:26:07,783
Every song was important.
503
00:26:07,783 --> 00:26:09,683
You had to make
a complete artistic statement
504
00:26:09,683 --> 00:26:11,850
with your whole project.
505
00:26:11,850 --> 00:26:16,416
And then, for black people,
that album is by Marvin Gaye.
506
00:26:16,416 --> 00:26:19,050
[ Piano playing ]
507
00:26:20,750 --> 00:26:24,250
BOYD: Marvin Gaye, a lot of
people don't realize the career
508
00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:27,550
he had with Motown
before reaching this point.
509
00:26:27,550 --> 00:26:31,683
♪ Just call my name,
I'll be there in a hurry ♪
510
00:26:31,683 --> 00:26:33,283
♪ You don't have to worry ♪
511
00:26:33,283 --> 00:26:38,183
♪ 'Cause, baby, there ain't
no mountain high enough ♪
512
00:26:38,183 --> 00:26:40,516
♪ Ain't no valley low... ♪
513
00:26:40,516 --> 00:26:41,950
The early '70s,
514
00:26:41,950 --> 00:26:44,683
he's done the duets
with Tammi Terrell,
515
00:26:44,683 --> 00:26:46,083
which are very popular.
516
00:26:46,083 --> 00:26:48,083
♪ To keep from getting to you,
baby ♪
517
00:26:48,083 --> 00:26:51,616
♪ Remember, the day
I set you free ♪
518
00:26:51,616 --> 00:26:55,283
♪ I told you you could always
count on me, darling ♪
519
00:26:55,283 --> 00:26:58,250
Tammi Terrell
suffers a very tragic fate.
520
00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:00,883
Marvin's very, of course,
distraught.
521
00:27:00,883 --> 00:27:05,283
QUESTLOVE: He left the road
after Tammi Terrell's death,
522
00:27:05,283 --> 00:27:07,616
you haven't heard new material
in two years,
523
00:27:07,616 --> 00:27:11,650
and now that his brother's home
from Vietnam,
524
00:27:11,650 --> 00:27:16,083
and he has this vision
of being a messenger.
525
00:27:16,083 --> 00:27:20,683
I started to think
about the war in Vietnam
526
00:27:20,683 --> 00:27:23,116
and my brother, who was ‐‐
527
00:27:23,116 --> 00:27:26,016
He used to tell me,
528
00:27:26,016 --> 00:27:30,883
write, respond with some pretty
horrible stories about the war.
529
00:27:30,883 --> 00:27:33,783
I became quite affected by them.
530
00:27:33,783 --> 00:27:37,150
At the same time, there was a
great deal of unrest in America.
531
00:27:37,150 --> 00:27:42,316
Civil rights, black power,
Vietnam.
532
00:27:42,316 --> 00:27:45,450
These shootings of the kids
on the college campuses.
533
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:48,050
QUESTLOVE:
Berry Gordy headed Motown,
534
00:27:48,050 --> 00:27:50,550
and he's like, "No,
we're not a message company.
535
00:27:50,550 --> 00:27:52,383
You're not gonna
release this album."
536
00:27:52,383 --> 00:27:54,983
BOYD: Berry Gordy doesn't want
this kind of music
537
00:27:54,983 --> 00:27:57,450
because Berry Gordy's
been making money
538
00:27:57,450 --> 00:28:01,483
by selling pop songs ‐‐
"Stop! In the Name of Love,"
539
00:28:01,483 --> 00:28:02,816
"I Heard It
through the Grapevine."
540
00:28:02,816 --> 00:28:04,383
He wants that Marvin,
541
00:28:04,383 --> 00:28:08,116
and Gordy, it turns out,
was wrong. Quite wrong.
542
00:28:08,116 --> 00:28:09,616
[ Marvin Gaye's
"What's Going On" plays ]
543
00:28:09,616 --> 00:28:14,016
And Marvin records
this incredible album.
544
00:28:14,016 --> 00:28:16,650
It's a concept album ‐‐
"What's Going On."
545
00:28:16,650 --> 00:28:19,950
♪ Mother, mother ♪
546
00:28:19,950 --> 00:28:24,850
♪ There's too many
of you crying ♪
547
00:28:26,116 --> 00:28:28,516
♪ Brother, brother, brother ♪
548
00:28:29,450 --> 00:28:34,116
♪ There's far too many
of you dying ♪
549
00:28:34,116 --> 00:28:39,483
♪ You know
we've got to find a way ♪
550
00:28:39,483 --> 00:28:43,383
♪ To bring
some lovin' here today ♪
551
00:28:43,383 --> 00:28:45,116
♪ Yeah ♪
552
00:28:45,116 --> 00:28:46,650
QUESTLOVE:
For a lot of us,
553
00:28:46,650 --> 00:28:50,183
like, that's black people's
"Times Are A‐Changing."
554
00:28:50,183 --> 00:28:51,916
And you go from song to song.
555
00:28:51,916 --> 00:28:53,550
QUESTLOVE:
Everything is a suite.
556
00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:56,516
No one ever considers
the first six songs
557
00:28:56,516 --> 00:28:59,750
on "What's Going On"
as six songs.
558
00:28:59,750 --> 00:29:02,883
Like, the entire side one
is just one song to me.
559
00:29:02,883 --> 00:29:07,550
♪ You know
we've got to find a way ♪
560
00:29:07,550 --> 00:29:11,183
♪ To bring
some lovin' here today ♪
561
00:29:11,183 --> 00:29:13,716
♪ Oh‐oh‐oh ♪
562
00:29:13,716 --> 00:29:15,383
♪ Picket lines ♪
563
00:29:15,383 --> 00:29:19,016
CHERRY: I think for me,
it was in 1972, '73.
564
00:29:19,016 --> 00:29:21,350
♪ ... punish me with brutality ♪
565
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:27,483
It's mixed with a very dark,
difficult time in my life.
566
00:29:27,483 --> 00:29:30,383
‐[ Gaye vocalizing ]
‐MAN: Right on.
567
00:29:30,383 --> 00:29:32,483
Whoo!
Right on, brother.
568
00:29:32,483 --> 00:29:35,583
‐[ Indistinct conversations ]
‐[ Gaye vocalizing ]
569
00:29:36,183 --> 00:29:39,950
CHERRY: And, to me,
when I hold my original copy
570
00:29:39,950 --> 00:29:41,883
of "What's Going On," you know,
571
00:29:41,883 --> 00:29:46,450
it takes me back to living
on Ninth Street in New York
572
00:29:46,450 --> 00:29:50,350
and the memory of how much
it was raining in that period,
573
00:29:50,350 --> 00:29:53,016
and I don't know
whether that association
574
00:29:53,016 --> 00:29:55,483
comes with Marvin Gaye
on the record sleeve
575
00:29:55,483 --> 00:30:00,816
in patent black raincoat
with raindrops on his coat
576
00:30:00,816 --> 00:30:03,850
or a real memory.
577
00:30:05,316 --> 00:30:08,550
♪ Oh, but who are they
to judge us ♪
578
00:30:10,250 --> 00:30:16,450
It's an incredible album that
expresses and holds so much,
579
00:30:16,450 --> 00:30:19,583
which is why I think it was
such a meaningful record
580
00:30:19,583 --> 00:30:20,716
and still is.
581
00:30:21,650 --> 00:30:25,216
BOYD: The only problem with
that album ‐‐ It's too short,
582
00:30:25,216 --> 00:30:26,683
meaning I need more.
583
00:30:26,683 --> 00:30:28,550
I want more.
I'm not done.
584
00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:30,083
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
585
00:30:30,083 --> 00:30:32,250
Right on, baby.
Right on.
586
00:30:32,250 --> 00:30:33,450
MAN:
What's happening?
587
00:30:33,450 --> 00:30:35,450
[ Gaye vocalizing ]
588
00:30:36,050 --> 00:30:37,550
McDANIELS:
You know what's crazy?
589
00:30:37,550 --> 00:30:42,183
Those albums ‐‐ Marvin Gaye,
John Lennon, Bob Dylan ‐‐
590
00:30:42,183 --> 00:30:46,950
those records, that music,
those artists were our lives.
591
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:48,850
Our lives is on that vinyl.
592
00:30:52,232 --> 00:30:54,699
[ Gaye scatting ]
593
00:30:56,866 --> 00:31:00,166
MILNER: During the '70s,
especially in the rock world,
594
00:31:00,166 --> 00:31:01,566
the LP was king.
595
00:31:01,566 --> 00:31:03,532
But it had drawbacks.
596
00:31:03,532 --> 00:31:05,199
They can scratch,
597
00:31:05,199 --> 00:31:06,866
they're certainly not portable,
598
00:31:06,866 --> 00:31:08,766
and there was no way
to make one easily.
599
00:31:08,766 --> 00:31:10,332
You had to go
in a recording studio.
600
00:31:10,332 --> 00:31:12,999
You couldn't just make an LP
at home.
601
00:31:12,999 --> 00:31:15,499
♪ Rah‐rah, rumble seats
and running boards ♪
602
00:31:15,499 --> 00:31:16,866
[ Cassette player clicks ]
603
00:31:16,866 --> 00:31:20,966
MAN: Music in pocket size
and instant loading.
604
00:31:20,966 --> 00:31:24,699
MILNER: The cassette tape was
a good example of a technology
605
00:31:24,699 --> 00:31:27,066
that really didn't even
pretend to be an advance
606
00:31:27,066 --> 00:31:29,899
over what came before
in terms of sound quality.
607
00:31:29,899 --> 00:31:32,199
It was, however,
very, very portable.
608
00:31:32,199 --> 00:31:36,132
MAN: You record from your radio
or make your own programs.
609
00:31:36,132 --> 00:31:38,899
MILNER: And, for the first time,
anybody could make a recording.
610
00:31:38,899 --> 00:31:41,466
It's very easy to make,
like, a direct, you know,
611
00:31:41,466 --> 00:31:43,299
from vinyl‐to‐tape recording.
612
00:31:43,299 --> 00:31:44,599
GODRICH:
I just taped all my friends.
613
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:46,866
Yeah, I just had
thousands of cassettes.
614
00:31:46,866 --> 00:31:49,266
You know,
I was pirating as a child.
615
00:31:49,266 --> 00:31:50,866
You know, absolutely.
616
00:31:50,866 --> 00:31:52,699
Think about when you were a
kid, and you're going to school,
617
00:31:52,699 --> 00:31:54,332
and your pockets are like this,
and it's, like, all tapes.
618
00:31:54,332 --> 00:31:57,399
GROHL: We would make cassettes
and share them with friends,
619
00:31:57,399 --> 00:31:58,899
and we would pass them around,
620
00:31:58,899 --> 00:32:02,232
and then we'd go see those bands
when they came into town,
621
00:32:02,232 --> 00:32:04,599
and we felt like that music
was ours.
622
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,499
[ The Cure's "Love Song"
playing ]
623
00:32:07,499 --> 00:32:09,066
MILNER: Of course,
you could also make mix tapes,
624
00:32:09,066 --> 00:32:11,766
so essentially,
you could create your own LPs.
625
00:32:11,766 --> 00:32:13,999
HOROVITZ: You had your cassette
for a dollar,
626
00:32:13,999 --> 00:32:17,399
and you'd put
all your favorite songs on it.
627
00:32:17,399 --> 00:32:21,566
♪ Whenever I'm alone with you ♪
628
00:32:21,566 --> 00:32:24,199
MILNER: You could find
connections between songs.
629
00:32:24,199 --> 00:32:26,666
You could find thematic things.
630
00:32:26,666 --> 00:32:28,166
HOROVITZ: If I was making
a tape for you, I'd be like,
631
00:32:28,166 --> 00:32:29,666
"You know what? I have
a feeling you're gonna like
632
00:32:29,666 --> 00:32:31,799
these particular types
of songs."
633
00:32:32,699 --> 00:32:35,166
You'd maybe put
some romantic things on there.
634
00:32:35,166 --> 00:32:36,499
You'd try to be cool with it.
635
00:32:36,499 --> 00:32:38,499
This is how I feel,
you know, about you.
636
00:32:38,499 --> 00:32:40,566
MILNER: This particular
selection of songs
637
00:32:40,566 --> 00:32:42,932
in this particular order ‐‐
It was a big deal.
638
00:32:42,932 --> 00:32:44,932
QUESTLOVE:
It's an extent of your arm.
639
00:32:44,932 --> 00:32:47,066
It's an extent
of your personality.
640
00:32:47,699 --> 00:32:49,832
There's a girl
that you're really into,
641
00:32:49,832 --> 00:32:53,266
the first thing I'd do is,
I'd go make her a mix tape.
642
00:32:55,032 --> 00:32:57,532
MILNER: It was a document
for who you were at that moment,
643
00:32:57,532 --> 00:32:59,366
who you ‐‐ how you wanted
the rest of the world
644
00:32:59,366 --> 00:33:02,599
to see you through the prism
of the music that you loved.
645
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:04,666
[ Hip‐hop music plays ]
646
00:33:08,899 --> 00:33:10,966
♪ From the South to the West,
to the East...♪
647
00:33:10,966 --> 00:33:14,432
CHERRY: I remember getting
a mix tape from Corona, Queens.
648
00:33:14,432 --> 00:33:15,966
It was Spoonie Gee.
649
00:33:15,966 --> 00:33:19,499
It was just, like, a cassette
from, like, a bodega,
650
00:33:19,499 --> 00:33:21,399
and I think
I probably killed it.
651
00:33:21,399 --> 00:33:22,932
You know, I played it to death.
652
00:33:22,932 --> 00:33:26,866
It was, like, the first real
uncommercial hip‐hop,
653
00:33:26,866 --> 00:33:29,566
sounding like
it was coming off the street.
654
00:33:29,566 --> 00:33:31,466
And I fell in love with it.
655
00:33:31,466 --> 00:33:33,499
[ Punk music plays ]
656
00:33:36,432 --> 00:33:37,899
♪ You ♪
657
00:33:37,899 --> 00:33:40,266
GROHL: The first music scene
that I fell in love with
658
00:33:40,266 --> 00:33:41,832
was the punk‐rock scene.
659
00:33:41,832 --> 00:33:44,532
My cousin Tracy,
she brought me upstairs,
660
00:33:44,532 --> 00:33:46,466
and she showed me
her record collection,
661
00:33:46,466 --> 00:33:47,899
and she had fan zines.
662
00:33:47,899 --> 00:33:49,732
And you'd go to the back
of one of those fan zines,
663
00:33:49,732 --> 00:33:51,732
and there'd be
this classified‐ad section
664
00:33:51,732 --> 00:33:54,099
with, "Hey, I have a band.
Here's my demo tape.
665
00:33:54,099 --> 00:33:55,799
It's only $2.50.
666
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,966
Send two stamps, and I'll send
you a sticker and my cassette."
667
00:33:58,966 --> 00:34:02,066
And I realized there was
this whole underground network.
668
00:34:02,066 --> 00:34:03,166
Like, "Whoa, man.
669
00:34:03,166 --> 00:34:04,532
All of this is happening
670
00:34:04,532 --> 00:34:07,866
without anybody having
any idea it's going on."
671
00:34:07,866 --> 00:34:10,499
[ "Truckin'" plays ]
672
00:34:14,799 --> 00:34:17,666
WYBENGA: A huge part
of the Dead experience
673
00:34:17,666 --> 00:34:20,399
and the Deadhead experience,
in particular,
674
00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:23,866
has been
all these bootleg cassettes.
675
00:34:23,866 --> 00:34:24,832
♪ Truckin' ♪
676
00:34:24,832 --> 00:34:26,999
♪ Got my chips cashed in ♪
677
00:34:26,999 --> 00:34:28,766
♪ Keep truckin' ♪
678
00:34:28,766 --> 00:34:30,832
♪ Like the do‐dah man ♪
679
00:34:30,832 --> 00:34:32,166
♪ Together ♪
680
00:34:32,166 --> 00:34:34,532
♪ More or less in line ♪
681
00:34:34,532 --> 00:34:38,632
♪ Just keep truckin' on ♪
682
00:34:38,632 --> 00:34:42,699
The Grateful Dead live ‐‐
It was just a dragon.
683
00:34:45,332 --> 00:34:46,866
♪ Arrows of neon... ♪
684
00:34:46,866 --> 00:34:49,932
In the studio, we never
could bring out that dragon.
685
00:34:49,932 --> 00:34:52,099
That dragon never
really happened in a room
686
00:34:52,099 --> 00:34:53,732
without people, you know,
687
00:34:53,732 --> 00:34:56,666
and there was no way
we could remember
688
00:34:56,666 --> 00:34:58,499
what we did the night before.
689
00:34:58,499 --> 00:34:59,999
That was not possible,
690
00:34:59,999 --> 00:35:03,032
because we were taking
mind‐altering drugs every night.
691
00:35:03,032 --> 00:35:06,099
♪ Houston,
too close to New Orleans ♪
692
00:35:06,099 --> 00:35:09,966
♪ New York's
got the ways and means ♪
693
00:35:09,966 --> 00:35:11,699
GARCIA: Some nights,
it would be just awful,
694
00:35:11,699 --> 00:35:13,099
and some nights,
it would be wonderful.
695
00:35:13,099 --> 00:35:14,966
If we're experiencing
authentic inspiration,
696
00:35:14,966 --> 00:35:17,099
then something magical
sort of takes over.
697
00:35:17,099 --> 00:35:18,232
♪ Truckin' ♪
698
00:35:18,232 --> 00:35:20,099
♪ Like the do‐dah man ♪
699
00:35:20,099 --> 00:35:23,699
♪ Once told me
you've got to play your hand ♪
700
00:35:23,699 --> 00:35:25,999
CANTOR‐JACKSON: The experience
of a Grateful Dead show,
701
00:35:25,999 --> 00:35:27,366
it is hard to describe.
702
00:35:27,366 --> 00:35:29,699
It was
like a religious experience.
703
00:35:29,699 --> 00:35:34,332
You go there, a lot of it
was the partaking of LSD,
704
00:35:34,332 --> 00:35:35,932
our sacrament at the time.
705
00:35:46,066 --> 00:35:48,866
When we all got to that level,
the music would just soar.
706
00:35:48,866 --> 00:35:50,866
It would go off,
and the crowd would go with us.
707
00:35:50,866 --> 00:35:53,266
I mean, the whole audience
was in the same place.
708
00:35:53,899 --> 00:35:56,866
WYBENGA: You have music
that is highly improvisational
709
00:35:56,866 --> 00:35:59,199
and not played
the same way twice.
710
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:00,799
You had this impulse
to document.
711
00:36:00,799 --> 00:36:03,332
MAN: Follow the chords
from those microphones, folks.
712
00:36:03,332 --> 00:36:04,732
MAN #2:
Yeah, right.
713
00:36:04,732 --> 00:36:06,099
MAN #1: Let's find out
who these people are.
714
00:36:06,099 --> 00:36:08,599
The Deadheads were recording
our performances,
715
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:09,866
and that was illegal.
716
00:36:09,866 --> 00:36:11,299
MAN #1:
Put that spotlight out there
717
00:36:11,299 --> 00:36:12,599
on that microphone,
the periscope.
718
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:13,999
You'll see it sticking up there.
719
00:36:13,999 --> 00:36:16,766
HART: And they ran
their copies of cassettes,
720
00:36:16,766 --> 00:36:19,566
and then
they would give it away.
721
00:36:19,566 --> 00:36:21,599
It was called a Grateful Dead
Free Tape Exchange.
722
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:23,632
MAN: Underground Records,
Incorporated.
723
00:36:23,632 --> 00:36:26,799
So, we said,
"We don't want to be cops,
724
00:36:26,799 --> 00:36:28,966
and we don't want
to hire more security.
725
00:36:28,966 --> 00:36:31,999
‐Let 'em come."
‐[ Instruments tuning ]
726
00:36:34,566 --> 00:36:37,699
WYBENGA: I know it came
to a head in the '80s
727
00:36:37,699 --> 00:36:40,532
when their sound man
had problems consistently
728
00:36:40,532 --> 00:36:43,132
with microphones
blocking his sight lines
729
00:36:43,132 --> 00:36:44,466
from the back of the house.
730
00:36:44,466 --> 00:36:45,766
MAN: You down there
with the microphone,
731
00:36:45,766 --> 00:36:47,432
if you want to get
a decent recording,
732
00:36:47,432 --> 00:36:49,766
you got to move back
about 40 feet.
733
00:36:49,766 --> 00:36:52,032
Eventually, the Grateful Dead
addressed this whole issue
734
00:36:52,032 --> 00:36:54,632
of taping by giving tapers
their own section.
735
00:36:55,699 --> 00:36:58,266
HART:
It built an army of tapers.
736
00:36:58,266 --> 00:37:01,032
They were responsible
for making the Grateful Dead
737
00:37:01,032 --> 00:37:02,499
a world phenomenon,
738
00:37:02,499 --> 00:37:04,966
and that was one of
the smartest moves we ever made.
739
00:37:08,966 --> 00:37:12,032
WYBENGA: Having a Dead
tape collection was a display
740
00:37:12,032 --> 00:37:15,166
right there of the depth
of your commitment to the band,
741
00:37:15,166 --> 00:37:16,932
a form of social currency.
742
00:37:24,466 --> 00:37:28,466
One of the first tapes
that I heard was 7/13/84,
743
00:37:28,466 --> 00:37:30,699
Greek Theater ‐‐
just a nice little show.
744
00:37:30,699 --> 00:37:35,666
And then 1977 was an improbable
height of sorts for them ‐‐
745
00:37:35,666 --> 00:37:37,466
the tightness of the playing.
746
00:37:39,432 --> 00:37:41,532
♪ Sometimes we visit... ♪
747
00:37:41,532 --> 00:37:45,099
5/7/77, for a long time,
was my favorite.
748
00:37:45,099 --> 00:37:47,132
And that's a show
that had come into circulation
749
00:37:47,132 --> 00:37:49,599
through Betty Cantor‐Jackson.
750
00:37:52,232 --> 00:37:55,232
CANTOR‐JACKSON: My stuff is
not taper stuff. It's different.
751
00:37:55,232 --> 00:37:56,599
My stuff is always direct
752
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:58,632
from the mikes on the stage
from the band.
753
00:37:59,866 --> 00:38:02,599
WYBENGA: Betty Cantor‐Jackson
had done various sound work
754
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:04,199
for the Dead
throughout the years,
755
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:06,899
had been a part of that Dead
family since very early on.
756
00:38:07,966 --> 00:38:11,232
CANTOR‐JACKSON: I did the taping
pretty much for my own pleasure
757
00:38:11,232 --> 00:38:12,732
and for Jerry.
758
00:38:12,732 --> 00:38:14,232
He'd come over the next morning,
sit in my living room,
759
00:38:14,232 --> 00:38:16,999
and have a cappuccino
and listen to the playback.
760
00:38:26,432 --> 00:38:28,499
It's something I really enjoy,
761
00:38:28,499 --> 00:38:31,432
just carving music
into the tape, you know.
762
00:38:40,966 --> 00:38:44,332
WYBENGA: These pristine
soundboard recordings
763
00:38:44,332 --> 00:38:48,099
became the source of what became
known as The Betty Boards ‐‐
764
00:38:48,099 --> 00:38:53,066
bootleg cassettes that started
to emerge in the late '80s.
765
00:38:53,066 --> 00:38:56,966
So a lot of shows that
Deadheads had loved already,
766
00:38:56,966 --> 00:38:59,299
even in poor sound quality,
became available
767
00:38:59,299 --> 00:39:02,632
in crystal‐clear sound quality.
768
00:39:02,632 --> 00:39:04,399
CANTOR‐JACKSON: I think they'd
been out there for quite a while
769
00:39:04,399 --> 00:39:05,866
before I ever knew about it.
770
00:39:05,866 --> 00:39:09,832
I heard some of them recently
that were amazing.
771
00:39:11,832 --> 00:39:13,566
WYBENGA: You know,
it's interesting to think
772
00:39:13,566 --> 00:39:16,432
whether this all would have
shaken out the same way
773
00:39:16,432 --> 00:39:18,532
if cassettes tapes didn't exist.
774
00:39:18,532 --> 00:39:20,332
You've got to figure
that the Grateful Dead
775
00:39:20,332 --> 00:39:24,966
has to be the most recorded
musical ensemble in history.
776
00:39:25,666 --> 00:39:28,499
WOMAN: The cassette industry
is booming.
777
00:39:28,499 --> 00:39:30,632
For the first time ever,
prerecorded cassettes
778
00:39:30,632 --> 00:39:34,166
are beginning to rival sales
of the vinyl disc.
779
00:39:34,699 --> 00:39:37,966
GRANATA: The thing
that really drove cassette sales
780
00:39:37,966 --> 00:39:41,732
was the advent
of a handheld cassette player
781
00:39:41,732 --> 00:39:43,732
that you could listen to
with headphones.
782
00:39:43,732 --> 00:39:46,099
♪ You really feel the music
with a Sony Walkman ♪
783
00:39:46,099 --> 00:39:50,466
MAN: The Sony Walkman
is a tiny stereo cassette player
784
00:39:50,466 --> 00:39:52,499
with truly incredible sound.
785
00:39:52,499 --> 00:39:54,299
♪ You really feel the music ♪
786
00:39:54,299 --> 00:39:56,666
LUDWIG: They came up with
a really good set of headphones
787
00:39:56,666 --> 00:39:58,899
for these little Walkmans,
and for the first time,
788
00:39:58,899 --> 00:40:04,866
you could take a device this big
with a good set of headphones
789
00:40:04,866 --> 00:40:06,566
and climb the top
of Mount Everest,
790
00:40:06,566 --> 00:40:08,066
and you could listen
to a Mahler symphony
791
00:40:08,066 --> 00:40:10,099
and get chills down your spine.
792
00:40:10,099 --> 00:40:11,666
[ Opera music playing ]
793
00:40:11,666 --> 00:40:13,266
MAN:
The Sony Walkman
794
00:40:13,266 --> 00:40:16,599
has forever changed the way
the world listens to music.
795
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:19,599
That was exciting new
technology, because basically,
796
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:23,399
it inaugurated the era
of private listening.
797
00:40:23,399 --> 00:40:26,266
It was about walking in the
street with your headphones on
798
00:40:26,266 --> 00:40:30,866
and the music being contained
to your personal space.
799
00:40:31,632 --> 00:40:33,066
DJ SPOOKY:
The idea that being able
800
00:40:33,066 --> 00:40:35,132
to have your own soundtrack
wherever you went,
801
00:40:35,132 --> 00:40:37,699
that's what really, I think,
changed the game.
802
00:40:38,932 --> 00:40:41,566
MILNER: You could actually take
them with you on the bus.
803
00:40:41,566 --> 00:40:44,366
You had the sound
right there in your head.
804
00:40:44,366 --> 00:40:49,499
♪ Do you really
want to hurt me? ♪
805
00:40:49,499 --> 00:40:53,799
♪ Do you really want
to make me cry? ♪
806
00:40:53,799 --> 00:40:57,432
By 1983,
the labels had records,
807
00:40:57,432 --> 00:40:58,866
and they had cassettes.
808
00:40:58,866 --> 00:41:02,832
They didn't see anything
really new on the horizon.
809
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:10,156
[ Speaking Japanese ]
810
00:41:10,156 --> 00:41:13,423
INTERPRETER: It's a disc,
a digital audio disc,
811
00:41:13,423 --> 00:41:16,990
a gizmo so revolutionary
that backers hope it will make
812
00:41:16,990 --> 00:41:19,190
records and tapes obsolete.
813
00:41:19,856 --> 00:41:22,556
KNOPPER: The CD
sounded really, really good,
814
00:41:22,556 --> 00:41:24,256
but the record industry
has always been
815
00:41:24,256 --> 00:41:26,923
deeply suspicious
of new technology.
816
00:41:26,923 --> 00:41:29,923
Industry executives said, you
know, "No F'ing way," basically.
817
00:41:29,923 --> 00:41:31,956
"We will never get
the compact disc."
818
00:41:31,956 --> 00:41:35,990
And the reason was because they
were so worried about piracy.
819
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:37,990
When you copied a CD
to a cassette tape,
820
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:40,090
that was a pristine copy.
821
00:41:41,156 --> 00:41:42,656
But the CD was cool.
822
00:41:42,656 --> 00:41:45,623
At the time, it sounds
so quaint now, but it was shiny,
823
00:41:45,623 --> 00:41:48,490
and if you tilted it a certain
way, it looked like a rainbow.
824
00:41:48,490 --> 00:41:49,690
It didn't scratch,
825
00:41:49,690 --> 00:41:53,023
and you could play it,
potentially, in your car,
826
00:41:53,023 --> 00:41:55,490
and so the consumers
really liked this thing.
827
00:41:55,490 --> 00:42:00,823
♪ These mist‐covered
mountains ♪
828
00:42:01,390 --> 00:42:03,256
And certain artists were saying,
829
00:42:03,256 --> 00:42:05,656
"We're gonna make
much greater‐sounding records
830
00:42:05,656 --> 00:42:07,390
with this new technology."
831
00:42:07,390 --> 00:42:09,123
LUDWIG: Dire Straits,
"Brothers in Arms" ‐‐
832
00:42:09,123 --> 00:42:10,890
It was really
the first compact disc
833
00:42:10,890 --> 00:42:15,090
that I mastered
completely 100% as a CD.
834
00:42:15,090 --> 00:42:20,556
♪ Through these fields
of destruction ♪
835
00:42:21,756 --> 00:42:24,456
♪ Baptisms of fire ♪
836
00:42:24,456 --> 00:42:25,956
KNOPFLER:
"Brothers in Arms" itself
837
00:42:25,956 --> 00:42:27,823
struck a lot of chords
with people.
838
00:42:27,823 --> 00:42:33,290
♪ I've witnessed
your suffering ♪
839
00:42:33,890 --> 00:42:36,556
♪ As the battle reached higher ♪
840
00:42:36,556 --> 00:42:39,523
This fellow
was a soldier in the Gulf War,
841
00:42:39,523 --> 00:42:41,790
and he said that they fought
this tank battle all night,
842
00:42:41,790 --> 00:42:45,656
and then in the dawn, they
just linked up all the tanks
843
00:42:45,656 --> 00:42:47,023
and played "Brothers in Arms."
844
00:42:47,023 --> 00:42:50,123
♪ ... and alarm ♪
845
00:42:52,123 --> 00:42:55,023
♪ You did not desert me ♪
846
00:42:55,023 --> 00:42:58,190
♪ My brothers in arms ♪
847
00:42:58,190 --> 00:43:00,156
Sometimes, I'll write a song
848
00:43:00,156 --> 00:43:02,923
that will somehow reverberate
with events,
849
00:43:02,923 --> 00:43:05,456
and it can just be a success.
850
00:43:05,456 --> 00:43:09,056
At the time, I was just
making another record.
851
00:43:10,723 --> 00:43:13,056
LUDWIG:
Not only was it a great record,
852
00:43:13,056 --> 00:43:14,923
it was a real landmark CD,
853
00:43:14,923 --> 00:43:17,123
and lots of people
bought compact discs
854
00:43:17,123 --> 00:43:18,590
because of that record.
855
00:43:18,590 --> 00:43:20,956
That record sold a lot
of CD players.
856
00:43:21,690 --> 00:43:23,256
QUARTARARO:
And towards the end of the '80s,
857
00:43:23,256 --> 00:43:26,356
people started
to rebuy their music
858
00:43:26,356 --> 00:43:27,890
they already owned on vinyl.
859
00:43:27,890 --> 00:43:31,356
They started to repurchase
the same collection on CD.
860
00:43:31,356 --> 00:43:35,990
$18, $19, $20 for a CD
that was really worth no more,
861
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:38,523
or maybe even less, than the LP.
862
00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:40,990
HADLEY:
They ran a bit of a hustle.
863
00:43:40,990 --> 00:43:43,390
They were able to sell CDs
864
00:43:43,390 --> 00:43:46,223
and have maybe
one or two good songs on it.
865
00:43:46,223 --> 00:43:48,923
IOVINE: You got a record deal,
you got one song,
866
00:43:48,923 --> 00:43:51,956
you put 17 other songs on
because they fit,
867
00:43:51,956 --> 00:43:56,356
and the people bought albums
for $18 that had one song on it.
868
00:43:56,356 --> 00:44:00,523
WAS: When we look at the decline
in the popularity of the album
869
00:44:00,523 --> 00:44:03,923
and of sales,
I think that was just way worse
870
00:44:03,923 --> 00:44:05,490
than some college students
871
00:44:05,490 --> 00:44:07,656
downloading songs for free,
you know.
872
00:44:07,656 --> 00:44:11,456
It was, like, making
shitty records. [ Chuckles ]
873
00:44:14,156 --> 00:44:15,656
MAN:
With the click of a mouse,
874
00:44:15,656 --> 00:44:19,390
Napster allows fans
to download virtually any song
875
00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:20,490
completely free.
876
00:44:20,490 --> 00:44:22,423
MILNER:
In 1999, some college students
877
00:44:22,423 --> 00:44:25,290
created a file‐sharing program
called Napster.
878
00:44:25,290 --> 00:44:27,456
HADLEY: All of a sudden,
people are like, "Wait a minute.
879
00:44:27,456 --> 00:44:29,756
I don't have to drive
to the record store, pay $20
880
00:44:29,756 --> 00:44:32,356
to buy a CD that just has
two songs on it that I like?
881
00:44:32,356 --> 00:44:37,423
I can sit at home and download
countless albums for nothing?"
882
00:44:37,423 --> 00:44:40,223
And it just was like
you just discovered
883
00:44:40,223 --> 00:44:41,656
this gold mine, you know.
884
00:44:41,656 --> 00:44:43,956
Just, all of a sudden,
all of the music you want
885
00:44:43,956 --> 00:44:48,123
is right there in front of you,
and it's very easy to download.
886
00:44:48,123 --> 00:44:50,856
STRANG: When they put music up
for file sharing,
887
00:44:50,856 --> 00:44:53,156
40‐some‐odd million people came.
888
00:44:53,156 --> 00:44:54,523
And, you know,
there were other companies,
889
00:44:54,523 --> 00:44:56,290
like, giving away money
on the Internet,
890
00:44:56,290 --> 00:44:58,790
and you couldn't get
40 million people to come.
891
00:44:58,790 --> 00:45:02,090
So the power of music was
the first thing that struck me.
892
00:45:02,090 --> 00:45:03,590
I was like, "Wow."
893
00:45:03,590 --> 00:45:06,756
MILNER: The courts struck down
Napster after two years,
894
00:45:06,756 --> 00:45:10,056
but by then,
there were all these services
895
00:45:10,056 --> 00:45:11,490
all over the Internet,
896
00:45:11,490 --> 00:45:15,790
and they all used
the same new format ‐‐ the MP3.
897
00:45:15,790 --> 00:45:20,556
♪ I am sitting in the morning
at the diner on the corner ♪
898
00:45:20,556 --> 00:45:23,090
♪ I am waiting at the counter ♪
899
00:45:23,090 --> 00:45:25,423
♪ For the man
to pour the coffee ♪
900
00:45:25,423 --> 00:45:27,556
♪ And he fills it only halfway ♪
901
00:45:27,556 --> 00:45:32,623
♪ And before I even argue,
he is looking out the window ♪
902
00:45:32,623 --> 00:45:34,856
♪ At somebody coming in ♪
903
00:45:34,856 --> 00:45:36,623
I was taking my daughter
to school,
904
00:45:36,623 --> 00:45:39,190
and one of the parents
that I didn't know turned to me
905
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:42,090
and said, "Congratulations
on being the mother of the MP3."
906
00:45:42,090 --> 00:45:44,523
♪ To the woman who has come in ♪
907
00:45:44,523 --> 00:45:46,990
♪ She is shaking her umbrella ♪
908
00:45:46,990 --> 00:45:49,156
So I went home and looked it up,
and, sure enough,
909
00:45:49,156 --> 00:45:52,256
it had this story
about how this engineer
910
00:45:52,256 --> 00:45:55,123
called Karlheinz Brandenburg
had used
911
00:45:55,123 --> 00:45:58,556
the original unremixed version
of "Tom's Diner"
912
00:45:58,556 --> 00:46:01,956
to test this thing he was
working on, called the MP3.
913
00:46:02,923 --> 00:46:06,190
BRANDENBURG: My research was
how to compress music in a way
914
00:46:06,190 --> 00:46:08,290
so that it would fit
through a phone line,
915
00:46:08,290 --> 00:46:11,756
and I already thought,
"I'm pretty much done.
916
00:46:11,756 --> 00:46:13,123
Everything works well."
917
00:46:13,123 --> 00:46:15,123
♪ I open up the paper ♪
918
00:46:15,123 --> 00:46:17,690
Someone was playing
"Tom's Diner" down the hall.
919
00:46:17,690 --> 00:46:20,023
♪ ... who had died
while he was drinking ♪
920
00:46:20,023 --> 00:46:21,623
BRANDENBURG:
Suzanne Vega's voice
921
00:46:21,623 --> 00:46:24,756
sounds like
she is standing in a room,
922
00:46:24,756 --> 00:46:27,756
and it's a very clear
and clean voice, and I said,
923
00:46:27,756 --> 00:46:32,190
"Okay, I want to try to see
what our algorithms do with it."
924
00:46:32,190 --> 00:46:37,523
♪ I am sitting in the morning
at the diner on the corner ♪
925
00:46:37,523 --> 00:46:39,623
♪ I am waiting at the counter ♪
926
00:46:39,623 --> 00:46:43,623
Unfortunately, Suzanne Vega's
voice was destroyed.
927
00:46:43,623 --> 00:46:45,290
[ Humming "Tom's Diner" ]
928
00:46:45,290 --> 00:46:46,723
It took us a couple of years
929
00:46:46,723 --> 00:46:52,356
until we really could do
her voice perfectly clean.
930
00:46:53,056 --> 00:46:55,890
VEGA: I had no idea
what would come next,
931
00:46:55,890 --> 00:46:58,390
and I met Karlheinz Brandenburg,
932
00:46:58,390 --> 00:47:00,856
and they were talking
about this great new thing
933
00:47:00,856 --> 00:47:02,423
that was just gonna be
the coolest.
934
00:47:02,423 --> 00:47:05,723
You could play music on
your phone, on your cellphone.
935
00:47:05,723 --> 00:47:08,056
I remember thinking
that's kind of ‐‐ Who cares?
936
00:47:08,056 --> 00:47:09,956
Like, I don't need to play music
on my phone.
937
00:47:09,956 --> 00:47:13,190
I just did not see
what the MP3 ‐‐
938
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:14,723
what the future was gonna be.
939
00:47:14,723 --> 00:47:15,790
I didn't see it coming.
940
00:47:15,790 --> 00:47:17,790
♪ Da‐da, da‐da, da ♪
941
00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:19,956
♪ Da‐da, da‐da ♪
942
00:47:19,956 --> 00:47:21,856
♪ Da‐da, da‐da, da ♪
943
00:47:21,856 --> 00:47:23,190
♪ Da‐da, da‐da ♪
944
00:47:23,423 --> 00:47:26,856
HADLEY: Early 2000s
are really tumultuous period,
945
00:47:26,856 --> 00:47:28,723
because a format change.
946
00:47:28,723 --> 00:47:31,290
Digital technologies
recalibrate almost everything
947
00:47:31,290 --> 00:47:32,723
about how we consume music.
948
00:47:32,723 --> 00:47:35,023
♪ "It is always nice
to see you" ♪
949
00:47:35,023 --> 00:47:37,423
♪ Says the man
behind the counter ♪
950
00:47:37,423 --> 00:47:39,323
WOMAN:
You plug it into your computer
951
00:47:39,323 --> 00:47:40,990
and download
your favorite songs.
952
00:47:40,990 --> 00:47:46,056
HADLEY: iTunes comes along and
is selling songs for 99 cents.
953
00:47:46,056 --> 00:47:47,856
The music industry
is just reeling.
954
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:51,790
WOMAN: The best‐selling digital
music player in the nation,
955
00:47:51,790 --> 00:47:54,890
revolutionizing the way
Americans of all ages
956
00:47:54,890 --> 00:47:56,090
listen to music.
957
00:47:56,090 --> 00:47:58,056
HADLEY:
MP3s unravel what we know
958
00:47:58,056 --> 00:48:00,123
about people wanting albums,
959
00:48:00,123 --> 00:48:01,423
and so, interestingly enough,
960
00:48:01,423 --> 00:48:03,890
we're back
to a singles‐driven culture.
961
00:48:04,690 --> 00:48:06,156
We take it for granted now,
962
00:48:06,156 --> 00:48:09,190
but then it was
a really remarkable concept
963
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:13,590
that I could walk around
with 10,000 songs in my pocket?
964
00:48:13,590 --> 00:48:15,190
♪ Da‐da, da ♪
965
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:18,290
But then,
with the era of YouTube,
966
00:48:18,290 --> 00:48:20,090
one of the main pieces
of content
967
00:48:20,090 --> 00:48:21,690
that people want to upload
is music.
968
00:48:21,690 --> 00:48:23,323
They want to upload
their favorite song.
969
00:48:23,323 --> 00:48:24,623
They want to upload this video
970
00:48:24,623 --> 00:48:26,423
that they made
to their favorite song.
971
00:48:26,423 --> 00:48:28,290
And YouTube still, I believe,
972
00:48:28,290 --> 00:48:31,156
is the number‐one music
streaming service in the world.
973
00:48:31,156 --> 00:48:35,090
♪ As long as you lo‐lo‐lo‐lo,
lo‐lo‐lo‐lo... ♪
974
00:48:35,090 --> 00:48:36,956
Justin Bieber's songs
have been listened to ‐‐
975
00:48:36,956 --> 00:48:40,256
Some of them have been listened
to 400 million times on YouTube.
976
00:48:40,256 --> 00:48:42,556
We listen to music
on our earbuds,
977
00:48:42,556 --> 00:48:46,723
over our telephones,
through computers.
978
00:48:47,456 --> 00:48:49,723
MAN: When I'm listening
to full albums on YouTube,
979
00:48:49,723 --> 00:48:51,156
people just upload them,
980
00:48:51,156 --> 00:48:53,156
and sometimes it'll just go
to the next video.
981
00:48:53,156 --> 00:48:55,590
Oddly enough, YouTube
is kind of like a new radio.
982
00:48:55,590 --> 00:48:57,856
CDs are just disappearing,
you know?
983
00:48:57,856 --> 00:48:59,123
CDs are dead.
984
00:48:59,123 --> 00:49:00,990
ROSEN:
Today, we have a format
985
00:49:00,990 --> 00:49:03,256
which is
almost an invisible format.
986
00:49:03,256 --> 00:49:04,856
There is an amazing amount of,
987
00:49:04,856 --> 00:49:06,390
you know,
these streaming services.
988
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:09,623
My preferred method of
listening to music is Spotify.
989
00:49:09,623 --> 00:49:10,623
Soundcloud.
990
00:49:10,623 --> 00:49:11,890
I Heart Radio.
991
00:49:11,890 --> 00:49:13,090
Sometimes Pandora.
992
00:49:13,090 --> 00:49:14,890
Sometimes iTunes.
I'll buy songs.
993
00:49:14,890 --> 00:49:17,456
I don't know. I actually like
that it's not physical.
994
00:49:17,456 --> 00:49:19,723
I feel like it saves
time, energy, money.
995
00:49:19,723 --> 00:49:25,490
Our kids, our grandkids will
literally be baffled by the idea
996
00:49:25,490 --> 00:49:27,390
that, at one point,
people owned music.
997
00:49:27,390 --> 00:49:29,456
GARBUS:
Whether we like it or not,
998
00:49:29,456 --> 00:49:31,823
people want music
instantaneously
999
00:49:31,823 --> 00:49:33,423
at their fingertips.
1000
00:49:33,423 --> 00:49:37,490
I do. I want to turn on my Rdio
or Spotify or whatever.
1001
00:49:37,490 --> 00:49:40,156
I want to say
I really need to hear
1002
00:49:40,156 --> 00:49:42,723
"Dancing in the Sheets"
by Shalamar right now.
1003
00:49:42,723 --> 00:49:48,856
♪ You and me, we should be
dancing in the sheets ♪
1004
00:49:48,856 --> 00:49:50,256
And I can have that, you know?
1005
00:49:50,256 --> 00:49:52,490
That is just the world
that we live in.
1006
00:49:53,756 --> 00:49:57,856
The problem I have
is discovering good new music.
1007
00:49:57,856 --> 00:50:02,556
There's just an overwhelming
abundance of material.
1008
00:50:02,556 --> 00:50:04,790
MANN: Trying to figure out
which technology,
1009
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:07,690
it became such a different
experience on so many levels
1010
00:50:07,690 --> 00:50:09,590
that I just
stopped listening to music.
1011
00:50:10,556 --> 00:50:13,290
It's only been lately
that I've started again
1012
00:50:13,290 --> 00:50:15,556
and kind of almost
giving myself permission
1013
00:50:15,556 --> 00:50:18,223
to jump back into stuff
from the '70s
1014
00:50:18,223 --> 00:50:21,090
that I never paid
any attention to, like Bread.
1015
00:50:21,090 --> 00:50:26,556
♪ Hey, have you ever tried ♪
1016
00:50:26,556 --> 00:50:31,490
♪ Really reaching out
for the other side? ♪
1017
00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:34,223
KNOPPER: The format shift
in the record industry,
1018
00:50:34,223 --> 00:50:37,023
I mean, on average
is usually 15, 20 years.
1019
00:50:37,023 --> 00:50:38,790
Everything's up in the air now.
1020
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:42,356
The next 5 to 10 years
will be super‐interesting.
1021
00:50:42,356 --> 00:50:50,456
But the power of music
will always be massive.
1022
00:50:50,456 --> 00:50:52,490
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
1023
00:50:52,490 --> 00:50:54,523
♪ All right ♪
1024
00:50:54,523 --> 00:50:58,956
♪ Are you gonna be
in my dreams tonight? ♪
1025
00:50:58,956 --> 00:51:00,223
MARGOULEFF:
It's about the song.
1026
00:51:00,223 --> 00:51:02,390
It's about the art,
not the medium.
1027
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:06,356
BOYD: Music transcends
the technology, the format.
1028
00:51:06,356 --> 00:51:10,156
Whatever form you give it to me
in, if the quality's good,
1029
00:51:10,156 --> 00:51:12,390
if I can access
what I want to hear,
1030
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:14,156
I'm a happy man.
1031
00:51:16,690 --> 00:51:20,290
QUARTARARO: What won't change
is your relationship with music,
1032
00:51:20,290 --> 00:51:22,223
because sometime this year,
1033
00:51:22,223 --> 00:51:24,523
you're gonna hear a song
that makes you want to cry.
1034
00:51:24,523 --> 00:51:27,790
And we human beings
have been trying to work out
1035
00:51:27,790 --> 00:51:31,456
what it is about the mathematics
of the arrangement
1036
00:51:31,456 --> 00:51:36,190
of musical notes that elicits
an emotional response in us,
1037
00:51:36,190 --> 00:51:39,190
and it's still a mystery.
1038
00:51:44,256 --> 00:51:46,790
Our lives are pretty much
defined by, what,
1039
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:49,156
I don't know, 20, 30 records?
1040
00:51:49,156 --> 00:51:50,656
RZA:
How many ever years passes
1041
00:51:50,656 --> 00:51:53,190
when you want to go back
to your high‐school memory ‐‐
1042
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:54,523
A song could do it for you.
1043
00:51:54,523 --> 00:51:56,856
There's always that piano,
that verse,
1044
00:51:56,856 --> 00:52:00,890
that voice, that beat, that cut,
that scratch, that guitar riff,
1045
00:52:00,890 --> 00:52:02,556
that's gonna save your life.
1046
00:52:06,156 --> 00:52:09,090
I'm so grateful
to all the musicians
1047
00:52:09,090 --> 00:52:12,323
that made the music
that I ever heard,
1048
00:52:12,323 --> 00:52:17,823
because it all went in,
and it enriched my life.
1049
00:52:17,823 --> 00:52:21,856
♪ And in the end ♪
1050
00:52:21,856 --> 00:52:25,723
♪ The love you take ♪
1051
00:52:25,723 --> 00:52:31,623
♪ Is equal to the love ♪
1052
00:52:31,623 --> 00:52:33,523
♪ You make ♪
1053
00:52:33,523 --> 00:52:37,056
And we've seen now
100 years of recorded sound,
1054
00:52:37,056 --> 00:52:40,890
and we've seen the effect
of that sound on people,
1055
00:52:40,890 --> 00:52:43,790
and it has been
quite remarkable.
1056
00:52:43,790 --> 00:52:45,256
It's changed our lives.
84533
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