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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,680 "We the people, 2 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,800 in order to form a more perfect union." 3 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,400 Two hundred and twenty-one years ago, 4 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,480 in a hall that still stands across the street, 5 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,000 a group of men gathered, and with these simple words, 6 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:58,320 launched America's improbable experiment in democracy. 7 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,200 The document they produced was eventually signed, 8 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,680 but ultimately unfinished. 9 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:10,000 It was stained by this nation's original sin of slavery. 10 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,120 I chose to run for president 11 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,000 at this moment in history because I believe deeply 12 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,480 that we cannot solve the challenges of our time 13 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,840 unless we solve them together. 14 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,520 Unless we perfect our union 15 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,800 by understanding that we may have different stories, 16 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:28,720 but we hold common hopes, 17 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,560 that we may not look the same 18 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,880 and may not have come from the same place, 19 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,120 but we all want to move in the same direction, 20 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,080 towards a better future for our children and our grandchildren. 21 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,440 This belief comes from my unyielding faith 22 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:49,000 in the decency and generosity of the American people. 23 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,840 But it also comes from my own story. 24 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,280 I am the son of a Black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. 25 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,120 I was raised with the help of a white grandfather 26 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,880 who survived the Depression to serve in Patton's army 27 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,760 during World War II, 28 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:10,280 and a white grandmother who worked 29 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,720 on a bomber assembly line at Fort Leavenworth 30 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,520 while he was overseas. 31 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,000 I've gone to some of the best schools in America, 32 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,840 and I've lived in one of the world's poorest nations. 33 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,720 I am married to a Black American 34 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,760 who carries within her the blood of slaves and slave owners, 35 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:29,200 an inheritance we pass on to our two precious daughters. 36 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,480 I have brothers, sisters, nieces, 37 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:36,240 nephews, uncles, and cousins of every race and every hue 38 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,080 scattered across three continents. 39 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,120 And for as long as I live, I will never forget 40 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:46,200 that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible. 41 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:54,400 It's a story that hasn't made me the most conventional of candidates. 42 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,760 But it is a story that has seared into my genetic makeup 43 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:03,520 the idea that this nation is more than the sum of its parts. 44 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,880 That out of many, we are truly one. 45 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,120 Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, Black and white, 46 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,440 I have never been so naive as to believe 47 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,800 that we can get beyond our racial divisions 48 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:22,560 in a single election cycle or with a single candidate. 49 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,080 But I have asserted a firm conviction... 50 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,760 a conviction rooted in my faith in God 51 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:31,560 and my faith in the American people... 52 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:34,880 that working together... 53 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,280 we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds. 54 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,320 And that, in fact, we have no choice. 55 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,880 We have no choice if we are to continue 56 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,520 on the path of a more perfect union. 57 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,040 Meet Barack Obama, a Harvard-educated Chicago civil rights attorney. 58 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Obama has done and seen much in his 34 years of life. 59 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,640 He was raised in Hawaii, Indonesia, 60 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,560 and is one of very few African Americans 61 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,440 who can boast of tangible living proof of African roots. 62 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,840 My parents made me appreciate different cultures, 63 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,400 uh, but the notion that one culture 64 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,880 or one race was superior to another, uh, 65 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,840 was not in my, sort of, wiring, so to speak. 66 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,480 My parents met in Hawaii. 67 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,520 My father was part of that first wave of young Africans 68 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,160 to travel abroad to get an education. 69 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,520 They ended up getting married, having me. 70 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,720 My father decided he wanted to get his PhD, 71 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,960 obtained a scholarship to go to Harvard. 72 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,240 He moved there, but the separation made it difficult for them to stay together. 73 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,880 Not to mention, this was an interracial couple 74 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,680 at the brink of the civil rights movement. 75 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,280 My mother was from Kansas, 76 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,960 and she was born to a pairn of fairly typical midwestern, 77 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,240 white Americans in a lot of ways. 78 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,000 What made them remarkable was that they ended up 79 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,200 being more open-minded 80 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,640 and accepting of differencen and diversity than, I think, 81 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,440 was maybe typical of their generation and their time. 82 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,680 So I don't think that there was a sense of my difference, 83 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:33,800 racially, as I was growing up. 84 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,680 I mean, Hawaii was a... 85 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:40,920 sort of a unique kind of melting pot. 86 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,760 Then, when I was six, my mother remarried an Indonesian. 87 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,560 And we moved to Indonesia, 88 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,600 which certainly made me feel different, but it had more to do with the fact 89 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,840 that I was an American living in a third-world country 90 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,120 than the fact that I was an African American. 91 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:01,760 It probably wasn't until I came back from Indonesia 92 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,000 and I was around ten years old or so, 93 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,320 that it became an issue. 94 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,720 I obtained a scholarship to a prep school in Hawaii. 95 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,080 At that point, suddenly, I looked around and said, 96 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,400 "You know, there aren't that many folks who look like me." 97 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,920 When he first came into school, when Barry first came, I was excited. 98 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,960 I-- For me, being a little girl, being-- 99 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,080 I haven't been there from first grade to fifth grade, 100 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,240 I had been by myself, and when I say by myself, 101 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,600 I just mean because I'm the only little Black girl there. 102 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:38,120 And being teased all the time was very difficult for me. 103 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:41,680 I didn't like my own skin. So when I saw him, I thought, 104 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:43,920 "Oh, he's just like me, but he's a guy. 105 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,840 But he's the same color skin, and maybe we can be allies, 106 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,360 maybe we can work together and they won't tease me as much." 107 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,560 My mother had inculcated in me the sense 108 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,120 that being African American was a-- a wonderful thing. 109 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:01,960 You know, that it was special in some way. 110 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,640 I didn't really know my father growing up. 111 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,400 He had left my mother by the time I was two, 112 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,240 and I didn't really meet him again until I was ten. 113 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,760 And basically learned of him 114 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,680 through the stories my mother would tell 115 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,720 and my grandparents would tell me. 116 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,840 The consensus was he was the smartest man they had ever met. 117 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:27,800 So, the image that I had of being a Black American was-- 118 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,440 was almost exclusively positive. 119 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,680 It's ironic, you know, that I got this wonderful sort of Black history lesson 120 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,720 from this, uh, white woman from Kansas. 121 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,760 My mother really was somebody who identified so greatly 122 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,920 with the civil rights movement that that was almost our civil religion. 123 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,800 She was constantly talking about King and Malcolm, 124 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,880 and the struggles that were taking place in the United States. 125 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,480 Because of prejudices and narrow-mindedness, 126 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,400 negroes have been held out of the political arena, 127 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,440 but I do think that the day will come in the not-too-distant future 128 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,920 when the negro vote itself will be powerful enough 129 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,760 to be in a coalition 130 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,280 with, uh, liberals in the white community 131 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:18,720 and thereby elect a negro president of the United States. 132 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,160 My first memory of meeting Barry Obama 133 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,000 is that our mutual friend introduced us. 134 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,840 There were only four Black students 135 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,880 out of 1,600 students in the-- in high school that year. 136 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,320 Barry was a freshman, he had just come into the high school. 137 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,080 We talked about school, we talked about girls, 138 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,680 and we talked about whether the non-Black girls at our school, 139 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,640 which was all the girls at our school, 140 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,880 would ever date us. 141 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,040 We were used to being in situations 142 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,320 where we were the only Black person there, 143 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,960 or we were bridging two cultures. 144 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,280 I mean, that was just a part of how each of us had grown up. 145 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,200 We had a standing meeting about once a week, 146 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,200 and we called our standing meeting 147 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,000 "ethnic corner," which was tongue-in-cheek. 148 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,400 We talked about social issues because that was important to us. 149 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:17,720 And, so, one of those questions was, 150 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,880 "Will we ever see a Black president in our lifetime?" 151 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Our consensus was, uh, there will be a Black president, 152 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,480 but it won't be in our lifetime. 153 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,480 By the time I was an adolescent 154 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,680 and was struggling with issues of racial identity 155 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,440 and a father not being in the house, 156 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:40,200 I reacted by engaging in a lot of, uh, behavior 157 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,680 that's not untypical of Black males... 158 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,440 uh, across the country. 159 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,200 I played a lot of basketball, 160 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,480 didn't take school that seriously, got into fights, 161 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,280 drank and consumed substances that weren't always legal. 162 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,560 And that was also at a time when Roots 163 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,320 was first appearing on television, 164 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,920 and there were just a lot of icons of Black identity-- 165 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,920 Shaft and Super Fly-- 166 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,600 forced me to figure out as I moved through high school, 167 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,120 what did it mean to be a Black man in America. 168 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,800 And also embrace my mixed heritage. 169 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,040 We both went to Occidental College in the fall of 1979 as freshmen, 170 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,560 and we were in the same dormitory. 171 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,560 Barack was always very self-confident, 172 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,240 he was fun to be around and easy-going 173 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,960 and a good conversationalist. 174 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,480 It turned out that I really liked to read, 175 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,080 and I liked to argue politics with my professors, 176 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,560 and I really, sort of like a sponge, 177 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,480 started soaking up a lot of, uh, information, 178 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,360 and spent the first two years there 179 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,240 sort of rediscovering what was important to me... 180 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:05,000 ...and was active in a lot of campus activism. 181 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,080 Divest! Divest! Divest! Divest! 182 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,840 There were student groups that were trying to get 183 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,960 the college to divest from investing in South Africa. 184 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,560 And there was a rally in front of where the board was meeting, 185 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,000 the trustees, and Barack was the first speaker at that rally. 186 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,680 All right. 187 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,480 We called this rally today to bring attention 188 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,080 to Occidental's investments in South Africa, 189 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,400 and Occidental's lack of investment in multicultural education. 190 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,560 -There is no... -Go, Barry! 191 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,400 Barack did a staged thing where he was carted off, 192 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:50,800 supposedly by Afrikaners, I guess, 193 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,920 to sort of symbolize what was going on in South Africa. 194 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,720 It was just one of the many issues, 195 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,880 along with the 1980 election and bringing back the draft, 196 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,680 that was being discussed on campus. 197 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,720 Are we gonna take the responsibility to change it? 198 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,840 That was the first time that I had spent 199 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,520 a lot of time on the mainland United States. 200 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:14,680 I became close to a collection of African American professors 201 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,080 and Latino activists, and international students, 202 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,120 and it was a terrific period of growth for me. 203 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,120 But after two years at Occidental, 204 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,760 I decided that I needed a change. 205 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,640 It was a small liberal arts college. 206 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,200 So I transferred to Columbia University in New York City, 207 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,800 and became very interested in issues of social change 208 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,200 and politics and public policy and government, 209 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,120 and started really thinking more seriously about who I was 210 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,680 and what I wanted to be. 211 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,360 I was doing a masters 212 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,360 in early childhood education in New York, 213 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,000 and I was living at home with my parents. 214 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,520 I was invited to a Christmas party, 215 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:58,400 and I'm not much of a partygoer, so... 216 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,320 I was about to go home, when Barack stopped me 217 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,640 and, um, introduced himself to me. 218 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,920 And he must have said something a little bit compelling, 219 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,160 'cause instead of leaving as I was ready to do, 220 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,640 we ended up sitting down on a-- on a beanbag by the front door 221 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,680 and talked for a long time. 222 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,640 We both grew up moving around and in other countries, 223 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,840 and just instantly had a lot in common. 224 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,960 It was really bizarre when we both realized 225 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,920 we'd lived in Indonesia as children at the same time. 226 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,440 It felt extraordinary. 227 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,720 We had very parallel stories, it seemed. 228 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:45,560 His mother was an anthropologist and I was an anthropology major. 229 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,600 There was just this fast and furious conversation 230 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,320 about who we were and where we come from, 231 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,160 which, if you grow up moving around and feeling like an outsider, 232 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,120 is not at all a common experience. 233 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,200 For a lot of children, when you move around a lot, 234 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,000 you don't feel part of things. 235 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,440 You-- you're sort of outside looking in. 236 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,560 I think that probably the greatest effect it had on me 237 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,440 was I think it reinforced my general belief 238 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,240 that, under the skin, people were the same 239 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,560 and that whatever circles I traveled in, 240 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:30,040 I could find a common spirit or a common ground. 241 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:36,040 The week after we met, we fell into a kind of relationship. 242 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,280 We just shared such a similar history 243 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,720 and such a similar sensibility about what we were doing in New York 244 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,320 and how we saw ourselves as actors in a world 245 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,040 where we cared a lot about what we were 246 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,960 either choosing to do or about to choose to do. 247 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,920 We just seemed very much on the same page 248 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:02,960 as far as being young and very idealistic. 249 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,720 For a year, I worked as a financial journalist 250 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,200 to pay off my student loans and started looking 251 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,440 for work as a community organizer or political activist. 252 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,560 And it turned out that it was actually harder 253 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,840 to find work doing good than I had expected. 254 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,440 The Indiana-Illinois bi-state region 255 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,960 was the largest producer of steel in the country, 256 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,240 and, uh, the steel mills were closing all over the place. 257 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,880 So I began a project pulling churches together 258 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,480 to see what could be done for steel workers. 259 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,080 A large part of the area was the South Side of Chicago, 260 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,800 and there I was, a white organizer 261 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,360 dealing with an all-African American community. 262 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,240 Community organizing for us was so new. 263 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,480 There was actually no one in our community 264 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,920 that we could tap as a resource for a director. 265 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,600 We needed someone who looked like us, 266 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,640 thought like us, and understood our problems. 267 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,760 I put ads in some newspapers. 268 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,360 Barack saw it in the New York Public Library. 269 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,280 We did a-- a long-- a long phone conversation, 270 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,280 uh, which-- part of which I was trying to determine 271 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,280 was he Black or not. 272 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,680 He had the skin to step into that world, 273 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,200 but he didn't have the cultural background. 274 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,960 That was what concerned him, 275 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,320 is, "How can I walk into a community, 276 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,960 not only as an outsider, 277 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,400 but also as a person who ought to have legitimacy 278 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,920 if it's in the Black community?" 279 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,760 But I think he was reluctant to talk 280 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,560 about how that was shaping up to be the next move, 281 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,400 because it also meant conversations 282 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,200 about breaking up, which was happening anyway. 283 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,680 There was something about who we were together 284 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,760 that he really, um, was plugged into, 285 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,240 very legitimately, but there was this other part in him which could see 286 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,080 that there was no good end to this particular love story. 287 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,040 Yeah. 288 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,240 I drove out to Chicago not knowing a single person. 289 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:27,840 This was in 1985, and so I was, uh, 24 years old. 290 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,080 It was really a pivotal time in his life. 291 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,760 Coming to Chicago for him was a chance to get rooted 292 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,240 in a way he'd never had before 293 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,880 and to experience how things get done 294 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,080 in a big city in the United States. 295 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,280 He had never dealt with politics 296 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,800 and the kind of naked power that's in Chicago. 297 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,560 -You want Harold? -Yeah! 298 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,360 You got him! 299 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,960 Part of the reason I had been attracted to Chicago 300 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:01,680 was reading about Harold Washington 301 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,760 and the inspiration that African Americans 302 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,240 across the country had taken from his election 303 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,200 as the first African American mayor in Chicago. 304 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:13,000 The election of Harold Washington signified a sea change, politically, 305 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,440 like nothing we've ever seen in Chicago. 306 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,040 It finally sent the message to African Americans 307 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,120 and others who had been left out of the system 308 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,960 that it was their turn to have some access 309 00:18:22,120 --> 00:18:25,200 and to have some power in the community. 310 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,200 Chicago was an extremely racially divided city. 311 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:33,800 Go, go, go! 312 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,600 It was a fact of life, and it was in our face, 313 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,160 and it was always coming up. 314 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:40,760 He saw a city that was suffering 315 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,280 under deep inequity, and he wanted to change that. 316 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,640 And he made no apologies for that. 317 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,400 He said, "I'm going to be fair to you. It doesn't matter if you're white, 318 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,200 it doesn't matter if you're Black, I'm gonna find you 319 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:52,440 and I'm gonna be fair to you." 320 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,760 The first few months, 321 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,560 Barack came in, uh, very serious. 322 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,120 You know, he'd, uh, be reading, 323 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,800 he'd be working on his notes at night. 324 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,320 He was a bit monkish. 325 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,600 And so I did have a concern the first few months 326 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,320 that, um, he would burn out. 327 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,200 I was pretty green behind the ears. 328 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:18,480 Not really knowing anything about Chicago, 329 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,520 not knowing that much about the church. 330 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,760 In the Black community, 331 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,320 the church is usually the base of everything. 332 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,400 That's where people get their strength. 333 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,080 And so, during this time, 334 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,880 to bring those churches together, this is power. 335 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,360 We'd use the church as a base for organizing. 336 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,280 I asked him to go to a different church every Sunday. 337 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,560 You get to know the church better if you're there on Sunday. 338 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,440 The pastor appreciates you being there. 339 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,680 He just asked if he could have about 15 minutes of my time 340 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,000 to talk about working in the community, 341 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,560 which was really right up my alley. 342 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,640 But I think, you know, in his early days, 343 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,200 he had some real difficulties. 344 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:05,560 And one of the challenges that Obama had was that, 345 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,320 you know, he-- he did not talk like the regular guy on the street. 346 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,560 And so, I think that gave some people 347 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,680 some kind of suspicion, uh, of him as an outsider. 348 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,520 When I say he did his homework, he did his homework. 349 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,760 He got to know the people he was working with. 350 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,160 I came from a community that was inundated 351 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:33,400 by waste and pollution, lack of jobs. 352 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,840 And we needed someone to encourage us. 353 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,240 To make us want to do the things that we needed 354 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,160 to improve our community. 355 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,120 We rallied. We did good. 356 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,200 We broke up meetings behind closed doors. 357 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:55,640 You're talking about a sense of power. 358 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,600 You know, and these are the kind of things 359 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,400 that Barack thought about and we did. 360 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,680 It was the best education of my life. 361 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,080 It allowed me to not only to learn some of the skills 362 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,400 of organizing and politics, 363 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,480 but, uh, more importantly, it gave me a home. 364 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,640 It rooted me in a community of African Americans 365 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,280 whose values and stories I soaked up. 366 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,600 Sooner or later, what happens to you, 367 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,200 if you're working with a lot of pastors, 368 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:31,320 they want to know... "Where do you go to church? 369 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,680 Who's your pastor?" 370 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,800 We talked about the need for him to be spiritually grounded 371 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,160 if he was going to do this kind of work, uh, in the church. 372 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Um, and that even if he wasn't, 373 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,320 he needed to be spiritually grounded, 374 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,920 and he needed to make that decision, uh, for himself 375 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,120 and by himself. 376 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,080 I have a friend who, every time you greet him, 377 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,720 every time you ask him, "How're you doing?" 378 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,640 He answers... 379 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,360 "Just trying to make it, man. 380 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,880 Just trying to make it." 381 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,480 When Barack first came to see me, he said... 382 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,680 "I want to make an intelligent choice. 383 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,760 I just don't want to join because I like the music 384 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,400 or it was a great service." 385 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,640 He wanted to make an intelligent decision 386 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,200 about his faith. 387 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:28,440 Reverend Jeremiah Wright is one of the giants 388 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,560 in the Black prophetic tradition of the 20th century. 389 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,760 He's deeply influenced by Malcolm X, 390 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,720 in some ways even more than Martin Luther King, Jr. 391 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,360 Studied at University of Chicago, 392 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,600 so he was both a scholar as well as a powerful preacher. 393 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,160 How about the fact that we have pledged 394 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,800 to take what we've got as Black people 395 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,000 and put it back into the Black community? 396 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,880 That's what I want to ask. 397 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,720 He was deeply entrenched in an Afrocentric perspective, 398 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,040 and also a man deeply rooted in the politics and culture 399 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,600 of African American society, 400 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,280 and brought those to bear in criticizing racial injustice 401 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,640 and social inequity in the society around him. 402 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,680 In a conversation with Christ, 403 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,760 what the word says about racism comes through loud and clear. 404 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,160 Now, Jeremiah Wright has always been one to engage 405 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,000 in a very, very intense critique not just of white supremacy, 406 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,680 but of the American empire. 407 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,040 Apartheid is wrong! Oppression is wrong! 408 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:34,600 Anybody who feels white skin is superior to black skin is wrong! 409 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,200 The president of the US, 410 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:38,960 who doesn't even know his own Black cabinet members, 411 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:40,840 is wrong! 412 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,520 As we talked more about the Black church... 413 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,640 in one of the conversations, 414 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,960 I mentioned that at the University of Chicago 415 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:53,640 I had studied under Fazlur Rahman. 416 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,240 He said, "The Muslim?" I said, "Yeah." 417 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,840 That's when I found out he had family members 418 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,440 who were Muslim. 419 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,840 And we began talking about the similarities and differences. 420 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,400 I found him to be a very intelligent young man 421 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,040 and our conversations increased. 422 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,560 The culture says, "You are ugly." 423 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,880 The Christ says, "You are beautiful." 424 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,120 The culture says, "Your skin is black." 425 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,880 The Christ says, "And so was mine." 426 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,440 Once he made his decision to join the church, 427 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,520 you could see a marked difference in-- in his groundedness. 428 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,360 I think prior to that, Barack was searching for himself, 429 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,000 both himself in the African American community, 430 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,280 but also himself in the faith community. 431 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,040 I-- I think it had real value and real meaning to him. 432 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,560 I got a letter. I was in Germany studying. 433 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,680 And the letter, I looked at the sender, 434 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,360 and it was Barack Obama. 435 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,920 And the thing that really startled me 436 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,680 when I got the letter was that he had-- 437 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,840 it had the same handwriting as my father's. 438 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,280 And my father used to write to me, and... 439 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,840 you know, so I was like, "What is going on?" 440 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,080 This is like, I don't know, two years or three years 441 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,920 after my father has died. 442 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,520 So I opened the letter, kind of feeling really strange, 443 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,840 and it turns out to be Barack Obama, Jr. 444 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,520 I grew up knowing that I had a brother in Hawaii 445 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,680 because my father was very proud of him. 446 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,560 And his mother always sent Barack's school results, 447 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,800 so we knew about him. 448 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,960 But as a child, you don't really relate. 449 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,720 We got to meet each other in Chicago, finally. 450 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,360 We, uh, decided on that, we needed to get to know each other. 451 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,840 And immediately it was like, 452 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,720 "This is somebody I've known all my life." 453 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,760 And we didn't stop talking for about two days. 454 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,320 He asked me so many questions about family, 455 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,800 about his father-- in particular about his father. 456 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,080 I think it was a big hole in his life. 457 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,840 We don't know the reasons why his father 458 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,760 couldn't see him more, be around him more, 459 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,040 but I could at least relay to him that "Your father loved you very, very much." 460 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,680 He came and visited me in Kenya, 461 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,840 and in that time, we continued talking. 462 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,080 Although I couldn't fill this hole 463 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,320 that Barack had lived with all his life, 464 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,720 I could reduce it because it was filled with family 465 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,440 and stories that were not just made up. 466 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,760 And I think that was something that he needed to have, 467 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,640 and it helped in his development 468 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,520 and what he was trying to do with his life. 469 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,040 We were taking a walk, and he said, 470 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,480 "I've decided to, uh, go to law school." 471 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,560 I said, "Okay, um, that's reasonable. Why?" 472 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,600 You know. And, uh-- uh, he talked about power, 473 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,600 that, uh, he didn't see having the-- 474 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,720 getting enough power to change things 475 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,240 through community organizing. 476 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,960 He wanted to have some kind of platform 477 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,360 to be able to create greater change. 478 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,840 I was 27 when I got to law school. 479 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,720 It meant that I had gotten a lot of errant, uh, energy 480 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,720 out of the way. 481 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,120 I knew why I was there and what I wanted to get out of it. 482 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,920 When I first met him, he seemed... 483 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,680 He was a Black guy from Chicago with this African-sounding name, 484 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,760 and I had no idea of his unusual background. 485 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,480 He had a very sort of wise presence about him. 486 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,120 He always had something that was a little different to say 487 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,960 that seemed a bit more well thought out 488 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,600 than the other students. 489 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,840 I had learned, as an organizer, 490 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,040 to be able to articulate a position and express myself, 491 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,760 and I had great enthusiasm for the subject matter. 492 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,040 And I think when you're interested in something, 493 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,440 you end up, uh, doing well. 494 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,360 And I ended up elected as the first 495 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,120 African American president of the Law Review at Harvard. 496 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,040 It was obvious from the beginning that 497 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,280 Barack was gonna be a formidable candidate. 498 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,640 He just impressed people around him. 499 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,640 But when Barack was elected, 500 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,600 I, frankly, was-- was a bit surprised. 501 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,040 Race was a huge issue in the Harvard Law Review, 502 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,240 as it was everywhere else in this society. 503 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,960 And everybody understood that this was gonna be a huge symbol. 504 00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:32,480 I think it's a good sign. I think it's a sign of progress. 505 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,880 Although I'm honored and I think people can, uh, 506 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,960 say that my election symbolizes some progress, 507 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,920 at least within the small confines of the legal community, 508 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,800 I think it's real important to keep the focus 509 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,640 on, uh, the-- the broader world out there 510 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,560 and see that, uh... uh , for a lot of kids, uh, 511 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,040 the doors that have been open to me aren't open to them. 512 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,320 Harvard Law School in the late 1980s, early 1990s, 513 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,160 was a place where people talked 514 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,240 and argued about racial issues 515 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,960 because it's a reflection of the larger society, 516 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,080 that's what Americans were doing. 517 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,720 There are 1,600 students here at Harvard Law School. 518 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,760 Nearly a quarter are people of color and nearly 40 percent are women, 519 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,000 yet Harvard Law School's faculty contains 520 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,280 only five tenured women professors 521 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,360 and only three tenured Black professors. 522 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,480 Professor Derrick Bell was the first Black granted tenure 523 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,080 at Harvard Law School back in 1969. 524 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,120 Now, he's taking a leave of absence 525 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,440 until the school tenuresits first Black woman professor. 526 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,960 Bell's protest had its origin in the faculty diversity movement, 527 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,240 which was a nationwide movement. 528 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,000 And there was a lot of discussion 529 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,800 about whether and to what extent Barack should be involved. 530 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,520 This was a very controversial thing. 531 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,880 There was the matter of what are the appropriate things 532 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,280 for the president of the Harvard Law Review 533 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,600 to speak out on, and what are-- are not. 534 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,560 I remember that the Black law students 535 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,800 had organized an orientation for the first-year students, 536 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,480 and one of the persons who spoke at that orientation was Professor Bell. 537 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,440 And I remember him sauntering up to the front, 538 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,520 and not giving us a lecture, but engaging us in a conversation... 539 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,560 and speaking the truth that I've carried with me ever since. 540 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,640 Now, how did this one man do all this? 541 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080 How has he accomplished all this? 542 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400 He hasn't done it simply by his good looks 543 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,320 and easy charm. 544 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,080 Although he has both in ample measure. 545 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,000 He hasn't done it simply because of the excellence of his scholarship, 546 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,280 although his scholarship has opened up new vistas and new horizons, 547 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,720 and changed the standards of what legal writing is about. 548 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,200 I spent three years at law school 549 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,520 continuing the same line of questioning 550 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,160 that I had been engaging in as a community organizer. 551 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,240 How do we bring about a more just society. 552 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,480 You know, what are the institutional arrangements 553 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,520 that would give people, uh, opportunity. 554 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,840 Every day, on the news, we hear that we're in a recession. 555 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,640 That violent crime is increasing, that millions of Americans, 556 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,360 including so many of our children, are homeless. 557 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,920 And that our education system must be reformed. 558 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,160 We have assembled a distinguished panel to explore these problems. 559 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,040 I really would like for Mr. Obara to-- 560 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,880 uh, Obama to respond to this since he is young and Black. 561 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,360 Whenever we blame society for everything, 562 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,360 or blame white racism for everything, 563 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,600 um, then inevitably, we're giving away our own power 564 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,400 to some extent. 565 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,200 Um, at the same time, 566 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,480 we can't let the federal government off the hook 567 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,120 or the judiciary system off the hook. I mean, the fact of the matter is 568 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,920 we can take individual responsibility but still mobilize as communities 569 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,680 to make the kinds of structural changes 570 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,880 that are gonna be necessary. 571 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,520 As the first African American president of the Law Review, 572 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,280 I ended up generating a lot of publicity. 573 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,720 That put me in a position where, leaving law school, 574 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,560 I pretty much could write my own ticket... 575 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,080 and decided not to take what might have been 576 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,680 the more conventional route clerking on the Supreme Court 577 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,000 and working in a large law firm. 578 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,400 I read a newspaper article one day that indicated 579 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,960 that an African American lawyer was returning to Chicago. 580 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,360 He had been editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review. 581 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,520 He wanted-- he was interested in civil rights. 582 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,360 I did nothing but civil rights work. 583 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,560 And, so, I figured what the hell, I'll call him. 584 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,560 He said, "You know, every firm is recruiting me." 585 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,680 And he indicated that he wasn't sure what he wanted to do. 586 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,240 But would I be willing to have lunch with him, 587 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,040 just-- just to talk. 588 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,840 We probably had three or four lunches. 589 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,080 And finally after the summer, he said to me out of the blue, 590 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,640 "Aren't you going to offer me a job?" 591 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,640 I said, well, "Are you interested?" 592 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,560 And he said, "Well, I-- I think I am." 593 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,080 But he didn't come back here because of me. 594 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,080 He-- he came to Chicago because of Michelle. 595 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,200 He had worked the summers at a law firm in Chicago, 596 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,720 and she was at one of those law firms, 597 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,920 and he liked Michelle. 598 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,160 I first met Michelle Robinson when she was thinking of leaving 599 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,000 her private law firm, and a good friend of mine, 600 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,680 who was the head of the law department at the city, 601 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,320 sent her resume down to me. 602 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,760 Across the top was written, "Outstanding young superstar, 603 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,480 wants to leave the private practice, interested in government service." 604 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,360 I invited in Michelle for an interview, 605 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,880 and rather than selling her resume, as people often do, 606 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,600 she told me her story. 607 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,040 The story of growing up on the South Side of Chicago. 608 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,840 Being a product of the Chicago public school system, 609 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,720 going on off to outstanding schools, Princeton and Harvard. 610 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,720 And I was so blown away by her, I offered her a job on the spot. 611 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,960 I told him the firm was interested in hiring him, 612 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,120 and he shared with me that he had-- had this contract to write a book. 613 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,240 And he said to me, um, you know, "I-- I don't want to start working 614 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,960 while I'm doing this. I'll-- it'll be a distraction. 615 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,680 I'd rather finish the book, 616 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,040 so that I can really roll up my sleeves and practice law." 617 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,360 I had graduated from law school in 1991. 618 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,800 and I had been fortunate enough to get a contract 619 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,240 to write a series of essays about civil rights laws 620 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,720 and-- and civil rights policies 621 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,680 and how they've changed and how they need to move, 622 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,800 uh, as-- as we enter the, uh, 21st century. 623 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,120 Um, so I was in the middle of writing this book 624 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,560 when I got a call from the national organization, 625 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:09,760 called Project Vote, and they were very eager to have me 626 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,600 direct their voter registration effort in Chicago. 627 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,680 I want to continue serving as your president four more years, 628 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,360 so from this moment-- 629 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,640 Well, if the economy is the most important political issue 630 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,960 in this campaign this year, and it certainly is, 631 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,560 then it's particularly important to Blacks 632 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:29,320 because they are hurting the most. 633 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,600 Black people are further behind now than we were thirty years ago! 634 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,200 -What's your name? -Rodney. 635 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,960 For the Democratic candidates, 636 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,760 Black voters, traditionally loyal Democrats, are important. 637 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,560 But some now worry the Black community 638 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,360 is being taken for granted. 639 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,600 Despite voter education efforts, people are still staying away 640 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,160 from the polls this presidential primary season. 641 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,120 The decline in voting has been especially dramatic 642 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,800 among Blacks, many of whom see no one to vote for. 643 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,800 If the elections were to be held this evening, 644 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,480 I wouldn't vote at all. 645 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,000 It was a critical election. 646 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,440 You also had Carol Moseley Braun on the ticket as potentially 647 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,400 the first African American senator from Illinois, 648 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,240 and the only one in, uh, the senate generally. 649 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,440 Average citizens, working people, women, 650 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,640 minorities don't have a voice there right now. 651 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,600 And so, uh, my election will make a radical difference, 652 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,440 uh, by virtue of-- of giving voice to those interested 653 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,480 in those concerns. 654 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,800 About two weeks later, Carol Moseley Braun 655 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,640 won the Democratic senate nomination, 656 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,640 and at that point, I realized that 657 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,440 this presented an opportunity, in Illinois, to, uh, enfranchise 658 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,720 and-- and engage a lot of African American voters 659 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,640 that, uh, previously had not been involved. 660 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,040 On the line with me from Chicago is Barack Obama, 661 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,280 State Director of Illinois Project Vote. 662 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,800 At some point, you'ren gonna have to have leadership. 663 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,280 Giving people some sense 664 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,040 that the debates about the issues are real. 665 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,760 That by the time an election comes about, 666 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,520 people are already plugged in. They already feel invested. 667 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:09,400 We have victory in our hands, we just have to hold on to it. 668 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,120 There was such a tradition in this country, 669 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,720 particularly with the Great Migration, 670 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,320 of Black people not getting involved in electoral politics. 671 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,200 And so, Project Vote said we're gonna take the message out 672 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,080 to these people in the communities, 673 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:28,080 and explain to them why not only is it their right, but their obligation. 674 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,200 There's the old story that when America is sick, 675 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,720 Black folks have pneumonia. 676 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,960 Since Black folks are suffering even more than the general population, 677 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,880 what that means is we're even more cynical 678 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,480 and more skeptical about the political process. 679 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,760 But citizens can't just remove themselves from that process. 680 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,600 We've got to get involved if we're going to make a difference. 681 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,000 The election is five days away, but business is already brisk 682 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,640 at the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners office. 683 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,040 A record number of people have registered to vote 684 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,520 in the Chicago area. 685 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,440 All the programs that's out right now 686 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,440 saying, "You should vote," I've been listening to them, 687 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,440 and now it's time to take a-- make a stand. 688 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,000 Project Vote had a lot of grassroots people 689 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,800 active in getting people signed up to vote, 690 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,720 and they were very successful doing it. 691 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,400 And I hope that my election opened up doors for women, 692 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,600 for people of color, for people from working class backgrounds. 693 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,360 I hope that it cut through some of these barriers. 694 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,960 Do you have any plans to run for political office? 695 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,920 You know, uh, not at the moment. 696 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,400 I've only been married a year, 697 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,720 and so I need to spend a lot of time with my wife. 698 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,360 I've got a real full plate at the moment. 699 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,720 I teach a course at the University of Chicago, 700 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,480 in civil rights law. 701 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,360 You know, I'm working in my law practice. 702 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,800 We do a lot of employment discrimination cases, 703 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,560 voting rights cases. 704 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:56,480 That keeps me pretty busy. 705 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,200 If you end up being fortunate enough to have the opportunity to serve, uh, 706 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,480 it's because you've got a track record of service in the community. 707 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,320 Uh, and I think, uh, right now, I'm still building up that track record. 708 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,840 Tell me about the book that you are working on 709 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,360 about race relations. 710 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,720 Well, you know, it's, uh, it's actually changed quite a bit. 711 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,240 As I wrote it, it ended up becoming much more of a personal reflection 712 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,600 on what it means for me to be an African American. 713 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,120 And a reflection on my father, in particular, 714 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,760 who passed away quite a while ago. 715 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,680 My guest today is truly the epitome of that word 716 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,280 "African American." 717 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,720 He has written a wonderful autobiography, 718 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:44,000 as well as a look at America called Dreams From My Father. 719 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,040 My guest is Barack Obama. 720 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,760 I did say African American, and the fact that your father, 721 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,600 who also was Barack Obama, uh, was from Kenya. 722 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,560 That's right. My father returned to Kenya, 723 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,040 and essentially became sort of a mythic figure to me. 724 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,880 -The icon. Yeah. -An icon. 725 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,800 Your father comes back once when you're ten. 726 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,320 And it isn't till years later that you learn the real story 727 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,000 of what happened to him back in Kenya. 728 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,000 And then because he starts to speak up 729 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,880 and because of the changing political scheme. 730 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,400 You know, the, uh-- uh-- he ends up 731 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,080 being blacklisted from the government, 732 00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:25,480 uh, and, uh, in fact dies a very bitter and lonely man. 733 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,040 Uh, and, uh-- There is a tragic element to that 734 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,640 and-- and part of what I had to come to terms with 735 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,200 in writing the book, 736 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,320 and in discovering that entire side of my life 737 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,000 and my family, was to-- was to really recognize 738 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,840 that, uh, he had been shaped by many of the forces 739 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,360 that I had-- was struggling with as a youth. 740 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,640 Uh, that he, uh, as an African, 741 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,000 uh, although was not genetically mixed... 742 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,520 -Mm-hmm. -...uh, so to speak, 743 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,040 culturally was caught in this cross-pollinization, 744 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,680 this hybridization, this movement from traditional African society 745 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,920 into suddenly being catapulted into the modern age. 746 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,680 And-- and, uh, I think in the end, 747 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,440 he was not ever quite able to completely bridge 748 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,480 that-- that schism between modern life and traditional life 749 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,640 that probably, uh, is a schism that, 750 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,480 for him, at least, was just as powerful 751 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,200 as any schism between Black and White. 752 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,560 -Good evening. -Good evening. 753 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:30,560 Thank you very much. I, uh... 754 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:33,880 The section that I'm going to read for you right now, 755 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,720 uh, takes place during my adolescence, 756 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,480 and I'm a very angry man, uh, young man, 757 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,200 partly because my father is absent, partly because I'm trying to struggle-- 758 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,960 What does it mean exactly to be a Black man in America? 759 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,200 "The only thing you could choose as your own 760 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,200 was withdrawal into a smaller and smaller coil of rage, 761 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,120 until being Black meant only the knowledge 762 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,480 of your own powerlessness and your own defeat. 763 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,400 And the final irony, should you refuse this defeat 764 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,040 and lash out at your captors, they would have a name for that too. 765 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,360 A name that could cage you just as good. 766 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,000 Like paranoid. Or militant. 767 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,480 Or violent. Or nigger." 768 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,280 What I discovered and I tried to write about this in the book-- 769 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,640 is that, I guess, that the solution for me 770 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,200 to that sense of isolation 771 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,120 was to throw myself into a community. 772 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,480 Uh, to basically, uh, decide-- 773 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,240 And I-- it wasn't articulated in my mind at the time, 774 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,360 but in retrospect, I can see what I was doing. 775 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,040 I ended up, um... 776 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,240 deciding that my individual fate 777 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,920 had to be tied to something larger than myself. 778 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,040 Okay, thank you very much! 779 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,040 Hyde Park, Chicago, is a place 780 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,960 where you find your people pretty quickly. 781 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,000 In those years it was all about dinner, 782 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,760 and dinner at other people's houses, 783 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,240 and dinner with a lot of people around the table. 784 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,360 And I think that all of us were trying to figure out, 785 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,080 uh, what we wanted to do with the opportunities 786 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:33,440 that we had, um, to be useful people. 787 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,840 When I met him, I honestly thought 788 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,840 he was the smartest person I had ever met. 789 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,600 To all of my other brilliant friends, I am sorry. 790 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,440 There was just a way that his mind took things 791 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:51,960 and processed them. 792 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,400 That his curiosity was probing and deep and relentless. 793 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,000 So, I knew that whatever he wanted to do, 794 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,040 um, that he could do. 795 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,280 I was out in the front yard raking leaves, 796 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,800 and he drove by, he stopped, and he said, "Oh, you know what? 797 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,600 You don't have my book, you ought to read my book." 798 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,720 He didn't say-- He didn't give me any context around it or anything. 799 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,320 I didn't know anything about him 800 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,360 other than that we would play ball together 801 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,400 and he was married to Michelle. And I started to read it, 802 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,440 and I opened the door and I called my wife 803 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,920 and I said, "Anita... 804 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:33,280 Barack is an incredible writer. And he's really smart." 805 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,840 I met Barack Obama as a favor to a friend. 806 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,920 She said, "I know this sounds crazy, 807 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,240 but I think he could be the first, uh, 808 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,840 first Black president of the United States." 809 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,080 And I thought, "Well, that was pretty grandiose." 810 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:52,640 I sat down with him, and while I didn't necessarily walk away 811 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,720 humming hail to the chief, it was an interesting conversation. 812 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,760 I didn't know exactly what his plans were, 813 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,280 but I knew that he was learning the system. 814 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,080 Because we weren't actually sitting at that table 815 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:13,400 where the power was, I think at some point, 816 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,240 he realized that he needed to be at the table. 817 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,440 Chicago was a hotbed of political progressive politics. 818 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,320 And I think he was inspired by that. 819 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,360 We lived in the same area of Chicago, 820 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,160 and I would see him a lot. 821 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,560 I thought he was a nice-looking young man, pleasant. 822 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,360 Then all of a sudden, I heard that he was running 823 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,080 for the state senate spot. 824 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,240 You know, I-- I wasn't really focused 825 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,920 on running for office, per se. 826 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,120 I think, I've been continually experimenting 827 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,200 with ways to bring about change. 828 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,480 I tried community organizing, I've worked as a civil rights attorney. 829 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,440 And the idea of participating in the legislative process 830 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,280 became more interesting the more I saw the limits 831 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,240 of social change through the courts. 832 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,520 And then what happened was a vacancy came up 833 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,480 in the state senate seat in the district where I live. 834 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,680 Alice Palmer, a long-time revered South Side state senator, 835 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,520 had decided that she wanted to run for higher office 836 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,000 for a congressional seat. 837 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,240 -I'm Alice Palmer, how are you? -How are you? 838 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,520 She had promised him that she would support him. 839 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,880 Well, she lost the primary, so she wanted her seat back. 840 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,600 She wanted Obama to step back, 841 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,360 and he was not going to step back. They'd made a deal. 842 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,520 There was a lot of anger and tension 843 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,240 and division in the community about that, 844 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,240 because in the African American community, 845 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,840 politicians believe that you should always wait your turn... 846 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,480 and many voters feel that way too. 847 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,800 I think Obama came to Chicago 848 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,640 with the thought and ambition of getting into politics. 849 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,400 He was extremely ambitious. 850 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,560 Nobody writes a book about their life 851 00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:16,720 when they're 30 years old. Unless he's got a plan. 852 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,200 It was when I started doing Project Vote in 1992 853 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,920 that I came to appreciate the need 854 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,680 for a more effective political movement 855 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,440 within the African American community. 856 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,480 I represent the children of the civil rights movement 857 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:38,040 who've had opportunities to study and advance as a consequence 858 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,400 of the sacrifices that our parents made. 859 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:46,200 And that provides this generation with special advantages... 860 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,400 but also special burdens or responsibilities that, maybe, 861 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,480 we haven't fulfilled yet. 862 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,680 Barack Obama's mother's death came quite suddenly. 863 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,680 Her cancer was quite aggressive, 864 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,120 and she wasn't expected to die as quickly as she did. 865 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,080 The compounding tragedy 866 00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:17,480 was that he didn't make it in time to say goodbye. 867 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,040 He was involved with politics in such a way 868 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,320 that he felt he couldn't quite strip himself away 869 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,120 and he got there, you know, Hawaii's far, far away, 870 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,480 and he just got there-- got there late. 871 00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:33,320 And then he spread her ashes in the Pacific Ocean 872 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,280 and that was that. 873 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,480 He was shocked by it. Devastated. 874 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,200 They were very close, and I think he felt that his search 875 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,320 for his father perhaps overlooked 876 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,000 just how fundamentally important his mother had been to his shaping. 877 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,880 She was, uh, just a wonderfully sweet spirit, 878 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:03,560 and, uh, somebody who was, at her core, generous and thoughtful, 879 00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:08,960 and somebody who, uh, rooted for the underdog, I think. 880 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,960 She ended up working as a, uh, development officer 881 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,280 for international aid organizations. 882 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,360 She had a terrific sense of empathy, 883 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,600 an ability to step in somebody else's shoes 884 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,680 and imagine how they might be feeling. 885 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:31,320 And I think that aspect of her is probably the thing 886 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,640 that was her greatest gift to me. 887 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,440 I think that my interest in public service 888 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,200 in part, you know, grew out of those early lessons that she taught me. 889 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,680 And, uh, ultimately, I was elected as the state senator 890 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,440 for the 13th legislative district. 891 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,360 We have Senate Bill 1645. 892 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,120 Madam Secretary, please read the bill. 893 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,440 I move to concur with the House in the adoption 894 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,000 of their amendment number one to Senate Bill 1645. 895 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,760 Motion filed by Senator Obama. 896 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,040 The basic intent of this bill is to maintain the status quo 897 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,840 with respect to who qualifies 898 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,360 for time and a half overtime pay and who does not. 899 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,960 It is true and this was discussed in committee... 900 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,440 Barack's experience as a state senator 901 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:28,200 is underappreciated in terms of his evolution. 902 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,480 Most ambitious politicians in Chicago 903 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,960 would take the route of going to the city council 904 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,880 and trying to become mayor and going through city politics. 905 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,840 But that's a hornet's nest. 906 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,040 He was able to sort of learn his way 907 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:48,960 through all of the dynamics of politics in Springfield. 908 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,400 By the time I arrived, you had a divided legislature, 909 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,120 and-- and discovered that most of my bills 910 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,240 were going to get killed before they had even been debated. 911 00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:06,000 In fact, I remember the first time I spoke on the floor of the senate. 912 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,440 One of my Republican colleagues came up to me 913 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,720 and said, "You know, Barack, that was a wonderful speech. 914 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,000 I think you changed a lot of minds, but you changed no votes." 915 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,600 He came to talk to me about running for Congress. 916 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,840 He was in the state senate, he was restless, uh, 917 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,840 wanted to go to Washington. 918 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,400 And he thought that he could challenge Bobby Rush, 919 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,640 who was the sitting congressman of the district. 920 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,720 Bobby in '99 had run for mayor of Chicago. 921 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,760 And got badly beaten. 922 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,920 And Obama sensed an opportunity, 923 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,800 felt he could contribute more. 924 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,400 State Senator Barack Obama says the biggest issue 925 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,280 in the first district race is leadership. 926 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,240 This was Harold Washington's seat. 927 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,360 And, unfortunately, we have an incumbent who has not lived up 928 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,880 to that standard of leadership. 929 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,400 I mean, I'm thinking that Obama and I are buddies. 930 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,040 You know, we know each other. We, uh, walked down the same walk. 931 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,520 We bopped to the same tune, all right? 932 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,160 And then all of a sudden, the guy challenges me, 933 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,360 you know, out of the blue! 934 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,840 His biggest challenge is getting his name recognition up. 935 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,440 I maintain that I got great name recognition 936 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,720 because I'm an activist. I'm here. 937 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,160 Here's a man that represents the people. 938 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,080 Bad motherfucker. Bobby Rush. 939 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,280 Bobby Rush is a beloved man, was then, is still now. 940 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,960 A Black Panther. 941 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,800 A man who is closely connected to Fred Hampton, 942 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,720 a young revolutionary who lost his life in Chicago, 943 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,080 essentially set up and murdered by the FBI 944 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:56,800 and the local police. 945 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,760 They murdered Fred Hampton. Uh, they're out to murder me. 946 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,960 They-- It's like they'll murder anybody that's Black in this country. 947 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,960 Bobby, what's the next move for you personally? 948 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,960 I haven't-- My-- I'm-- There's no "personally" anymore. 949 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,600 I'm a people's man, so I do whatever the people decide. 950 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,440 There's nothing personal about it whatsoever. 951 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,160 Okay. Thank you very much. 952 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:20,920 I represented street people, common people, poor people... 953 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:25,000 the hungry, the outcasts. I know who I am. 954 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,560 I know where I-- I standat with my community. All right? 955 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,560 They don't always say it right. Sometimes they call me Alabama. 956 00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:36,720 They call me Yo Mama... 957 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,120 ...but it's Obama. 958 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,720 I was probably one of two Baptist pastors to endorse him 959 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,240 when he ran against Bobby Rush. 960 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,680 And, um, you know, the big thing with that was 961 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,640 that he wasn't Black enough. 962 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,520 Who are you? 963 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,240 You know, a lot of Black people, "This Ivy League person. 964 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,200 Who's your mama? Who's your daddy? What's your background? 965 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,480 Uh, what's your weird way of talking? 966 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,920 What is that weird name you've got? 967 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,400 You're going to come in and challenge our beloved Bobby Rush?" 968 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,960 This is viewed as a key leadership post 969 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,440 for the African American community. 970 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,680 And I think that what's more important 971 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,160 for the constituents of this district 972 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,520 is somebody who's accessible, somebody who's energetic, 973 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,800 and somebody who's got a vision for the future. 974 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,040 Look, man, I fed hungry children. 975 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,800 I put myself in the crosshairs of the police department 976 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,280 for my community. 977 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,760 I was on the right side of history. 978 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,520 So, when did that become old news, and to who is it old news? 979 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,360 Hi, how are you? I'm running for Congress. First Congressional District. 980 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,120 It might not be relevant to you, 981 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,120 but it's certainly relevant to those people 982 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,160 who you're asking to vote against me. 983 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,880 Barack Obama, running for First Congressional District. 984 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,640 A still-hopeful Barack Obama 985 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,600 worked the room tonight greeting constituents 986 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,280 with hugs and handshakes. 987 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,800 What's going on, man? How you doing? Thanks for coming. 988 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,440 There is a-- a political structure 989 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,440 around any incumbent congressman, uh, that is formidable. 990 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,200 I heard somebody was giving you a hard time. 991 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,400 Touted as a rising political star, 992 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,720 if he were to win this congressional race, 993 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,200 he'd be a spokesperson for African Americans 994 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,680 both locally and nationally. 995 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,880 Some say he appeals to a broader range of people, 996 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,360 and that works well in Congress. 997 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,120 Well, we've done a wonderful job in terms of putting, uh, 998 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,480 a message about a new politics out here. 999 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:26,960 We're very proud of that. 1000 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,640 And we think that we really have something to build on for the future... 1001 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,280 How are you? Good to see you. 1002 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:36,200 Well, he had credentials. Very impressive credentials. 1003 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,960 But he didn't have community credibility. 1004 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:46,400 He was a nice fellow and he is a very impressive individual. 1005 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:51,920 And, um, I-- I-- But I won. 1006 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,760 People say the one political misstep 1007 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,520 he made was running against Bobby Rush. 1008 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,040 There was a whole question of, 1009 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,200 he-- he couldn't really relate to the Black community. 1010 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:05,720 -He wasn't Black enough. -Mm-hmm. 1011 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,240 Did that raise any of these old struggles 1012 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,040 that he'd had even as a teenager as to who he was? 1013 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,840 No, I mean-- Right. He-- He grew out of that. 1014 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,280 And when you grow up and you become an adult, 1015 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,640 you realize that you are who you are 1016 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,760 and people have to connect with that or not. 1017 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,640 And when people bring that issue up, 1018 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,320 my-- my sense is it's more their issue than it is his. 1019 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:34,000 I've grown up in this community. I'm as Black as it gets. 1020 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,560 I was born on the South Side, 1021 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:39,920 I come from an, obviously, Black family, we weren't rich, you know. 1022 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,360 I'd put my Blackness up against anybody's Blackness 1023 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,880 in this state, okay? And Barack is a Black man. 1024 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,960 And he's done more in terms of meeting his commitments 1025 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,280 and sticking his neck out for this community 1026 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,080 than many people who criticize him. 1027 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:57,800 And I can say that because I'm Black. 1028 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,480 My view has always been, Barack is who he is. 1029 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,040 People need to see that, and if they want him, 1030 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,200 they should vote for him. If they don't, we move on. 1031 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,160 I still have a certain level of cynicism about politics, 1032 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,080 but I believe in him. 1033 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:18,160 He's done an outstanding job as a state senator. 1034 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,760 He has lived out his values in that way, 1035 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,760 and I'm proud of what he's done. 1036 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,200 In the summer of 2002, I got a call from State Senator Obama, 1037 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,800 who told me that he wanted to run for the United States Senate, 1038 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,040 and it-- it was sort of an existential moment for him, 1039 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:47,480 uh, because he had lost the race to Bobby Rush by some 30 points, 1040 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,400 he was broke, 1041 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,280 uh, and though he was widely admired, 1042 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,720 he also was thought to be damaged political goods. 1043 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,800 He said, "I told Michelle I've got one race left in me. 1044 00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:02,720 If it doesn't work out, I'll go out and make a living, 1045 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,920 but I think I want to take a shot at this Senate seat." 1046 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,040 He came to talk to me about running. 1047 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,520 He was having qualms. Why? 1048 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:21,360 'Cause he might lose? No, because he might win. 1049 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:27,400 And if he won, that would give him even less time with Sasha and Malia. 1050 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,720 One of his biggest joys in life was putting them to bed at night. 1051 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,920 They want a daddy, not a public figure. 1052 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,200 I don't get any more joy than I do 1053 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,080 when I'm playing with them or just watching them. 1054 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,560 You know, they're, uh, they're better than a movie. 1055 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,840 We want a man like Barack Obama to be in office. 1056 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,680 Uh, someone who's prepared, who's worked in the community, 1057 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,160 who has integrity, who's doing it for the right reason. 1058 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,320 MICHELLE I always say I take off my wife hat 1059 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,800 and put on my citizen hat, and say, "Well, if I weren't his wife, 1060 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,320 would I want him to run?" 1061 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,760 And the answer is absolutely yes. 1062 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,640 Let me turn to Laura Washington. 1063 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,720 Let's play a little hardball, and you ask the first question. 1064 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,800 Well, I'm wondering how he's gonna edge out Carol Moseley Braun. 1065 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,480 How are you gonna convince her not to run, 1066 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,320 and if she does run, how are you going to win 1067 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,000 with two African Americans splitting a-- a good part 1068 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,640 of both of your bases? 1069 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,600 Well, there is no denying 1070 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:35,040 that, uh, ethnicity plays a role in Democratic Party politics. 1071 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,000 You know, I think that's inescapable. Uh, I-- 1072 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,320 I don't think too much about the other candidate's potential, 1073 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,720 uh, in the race. My job is to think about 1074 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,920 how do I put together a team and a message 1075 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,960 that effectively projects, uh, 1076 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,640 why I think I'd make a good US senator. 1077 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,640 I worked very hard in the Senate to produce for my entire state. 1078 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,920 I thought I tried to do a good job... 1079 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,600 but I didn't win re-election. 1080 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,120 There were people that wanted Carol Moseley Braun 1081 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,720 to run for Senate again. There were women in particular 1082 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,040 who still wanted to see her back in office 1083 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,040 and felt it was still her turn. 1084 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,640 And Obama was not Carol Moseley Braun. 1085 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,440 The latest on what's turning into a very crowded race for the Senate. 1086 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,480 And this would have represented going back. 1087 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,400 A few days ago, former US senator Carol Moseley Braun 1088 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,600 said she would not try to get her old job back. 1089 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,360 And that decision meant another Democrat was in the race instead. 1090 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,440 State Senator Barack Obama is the second to make it official. 1091 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:41,120 ...that I will be a candidate for the United States Senate in 2004. 1092 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,200 The probable candidate to reckon with at this point 1093 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,840 is investment banker Blair Hull, who is reportedly willing to spend 1094 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,160 up to 40 million dollars of his own fortune 1095 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,640 to finance his Senate bid. 1096 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,000 Do the other hopefuls have the resources 1097 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,560 to bankroll their own races? 1098 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,760 I certainly don't. Thank you all! 1099 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,040 In any case, it is a season of proclaiming, 1100 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,640 even though the primary is more than 13 months down the pipe. 1101 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,520 - We cool? -Mm-hmm. 1102 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,800 Barack, let's start with the question 1103 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,480 that you always say you get first, which is... 1104 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,000 -Of course. -What's with the name? 1105 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,520 What's the deal with that name? 1106 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,760 Uh... Let's start over. 1107 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,480 This was the year after Osama bin Laden 1108 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,120 took out the World Trade Center. 1109 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,680 And there was this thought in the political community 1110 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:33,040 that the name Barack Obama would not be sailable. 1111 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,720 In fact, there was someone who suggested to him 1112 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,840 that he run as Barry Obama, 1113 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,040 which was his nickname when he was a kid. 1114 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,200 He just laughed that off, and said, "Yeah, that's fine. 1115 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,520 I know it probably tests better but my name's Barack. 1116 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,160 That's how we're going to run." 1117 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,280 When I was young, you know, there weren't that 1118 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,440 many people with, uh, African names. 1119 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,520 So, these days, you know, there are Shaquilles and Maliks, 1120 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,240 but, uh, there were only Toms and Joes, uh, when I was growing up. 1121 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,480 So, uh, my family actually called me "Barry" 1122 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,120 up until my father passed away, uh, when I was, uh, 20. 1123 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,080 And, uh, at that point, I-- I decided that I should use the name 1124 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,440 that I was born with, and have used it ever since. 1125 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,000 - Out of respect? -Out of respect for my father, yeah. 1126 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,600 Now, much-- much to the regret of political consultants. 1127 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,440 - Exactly. - Yeah. 1128 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,680 Senator Barack Obama. Thank you very much, I appreciate it. 1129 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,280 Sorry to interrupt your meal. 1130 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,440 When, in his book, Barack Obama says, "You can't call me-- 1131 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,560 Don't call me Barry anymore." That's familiar. 1132 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,080 That's familiar. I mean, a decision to say, 1133 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,680 "I am Barack," you know what I mean? 1134 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,960 You think about, like, Frederick Douglas, you know, 1135 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,600 born Frederick Bailey, recreating himself. 1136 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,320 Malcolm Little, you know, becoming Malcolm X. 1137 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,280 You know, myself, you know, my own name... 1138 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,720 ...you know, is this attempt for Black folks 1139 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,360 to, you know, sort of reclaim, 1140 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,680 you know, some-- some sort of identity. 1141 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,480 One of the interesting things 1142 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,480 that I heard a lot about was, is he really Black? 1143 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,000 And this was different from the "He's not Black enough." 1144 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,720 I was hearing this from whites. 1145 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,760 What makes him Black? His mother was white. 1146 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,120 How does he get to be a Black guy, and how does he get to be a Black senator 1147 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,000 when he doesn't even really have an African American background? 1148 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,280 I think it-- it said a lot about race in this country, 1149 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,280 and the fact that, particularly whites, 1150 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,160 didn't really understand our racial heritage. 1151 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:20,840 Senator Obama, how does being biracial 1152 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,800 influence the kinds of issues that matter to you? 1153 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,280 Well, it-- You know, I-- 1154 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,440 One of the things I think that I've always felt 1155 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,440 is that, uh, I-- I'm hopeful about America, 1156 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,760 and although race I think is at the center 1157 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,160 of the American dilemma, and it always has been, 1158 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,840 I think that it's also our opportunity, 1159 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,640 because I think America is-- is, by nature, a hybrid culture. 1160 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,480 Everybody comes here. We all merge together. 1161 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,240 We-- we fight, we struggle, we battle, but, ultimately, 1162 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,160 there's some common good that binds us together. 1163 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,360 And I think that I'm always very sensitive, 1164 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,520 in the kinds of issues I work on, to focus on, uh, those issues 1165 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,000 that we all hold in common, issues of fairness, justice, uh, 1166 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,360 the ability to-- to provide a better opportunity for our kids. 1167 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,280 That's the kind of message, hopefully, that comes across 1168 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,400 during my campaign. 1169 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,520 The Illinois primary is less than two weeks away, 1170 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,360 and campaigning is peaking. 1171 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,160 Just how has a guy, who two months ago 1172 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,600 garnered only 14 percent of the vote in the Democratic polls, 1173 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,320 become a double-digit frontrunner? 1174 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,440 Yeah. You're gonna win! We've gotta vote for you! 1175 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,200 I know that my voters know my track record 1176 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:26,760 and-- and my plans for Washington 1177 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,040 because, uh, when your name is Barack Obama, 1178 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,520 you don't get any free votes. 1179 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,600 If Bush gets re-elected, even if we've got a Democratic Senate, 1180 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,400 then all we're gonna be able to do is play defense. 1181 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,160 It's gonna be hard to play offense. 1182 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,440 He had a young man who traveled with him 1183 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,240 who called me from the road. 1184 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,000 He was down in deep Southern Illinois, 1185 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,560 closer to, uh, Little Rock than Chicago 1186 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,960 in a small town in a VFW hall, 1187 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,920 and the kid said, "Boy, it went over great." 1188 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,640 Obama called me that night and I said, 1189 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,320 "Gee, I-- I heard it went great." 1190 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,360 I really appreciate it, thank you for taking the time. It's very kind of you. 1191 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,640 And he said, "Why do you sound so surprised?" 1192 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,800 And I said, "I don't know, a Black guy named Barack Obama 1193 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,360 from the South Side of Chicago. 1194 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,400 I thought it might be a little challenging." 1195 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:10,880 And he said, "No, no. You don't get it. 1196 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,880 We'd talk about my grandfather who marched in Patton's army, 1197 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,280 and my grandmother who was a Rosie the Riveter, 1198 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,800 and we get along great." 1199 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:24,760 Mr. Obama, one of your supporters 1200 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,360 has raised the concern that perhaps 1201 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,120 you're not connecting with African American voters 1202 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:30,720 as much as you should. 1203 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,080 Well, look, the African American community isn't monolithic 1204 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,560 any more than the white community 1205 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,160 or Latino community or the Asian community is-- 1206 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,720 is monolithic, and I think that's a healthy thing. 1207 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,600 That's a part of our democracy. I certainly don't think that I would want 1208 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,480 to restrict my support to African Americans 1209 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,000 any more than Dan would want to restrict, uh, 1210 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,800 hi-- his support to whites. 1211 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,960 Part of what I think makes the Democratic Party rich 1212 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,440 is the fact that we have to build coalitions. 1213 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,960 Mr. Hull, you moved to Chicago in 1980, is that right? 1214 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,200 I was doing a story about Chicago 1215 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:04,200 and the Democratic Party's ability to reach voters 1216 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,720 through its messaging. 1217 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,800 And I was calling around and I was saying, "Who should I talk to?" 1218 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,880 Several people said, "You need to talk to 1219 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,680 this guy named Barack Obama." 1220 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,200 And it was really interesting, 1221 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,520 he was saying things that were in some ways 1222 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,520 in line with the Democratic Party, 1223 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,360 but he had a different way of thinking, 1224 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,320 and he had a very expansive way of thinking. 1225 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,080 And he was thinking that they needed-- 1226 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,120 they, the Democrats, um, and he, as a politician, 1227 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,160 needed to try to message in a way that reached all voters. 1228 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,120 Today's newspaper right here. Obama wins the primary. 1229 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,600 It is history today, right here, in today's newspaper. 1230 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,920 -Read all about it! -Thank you, I appreciate it. 1231 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,440 -Fantastic, brother, Keep going. -Thank you, thank you, thank you. 1232 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,960 -Congratulations, Trinitarian! -Thank you. Hey, fellow Trinitarian. 1233 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,480 Thank you very much. 1234 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,560 There are many reasons why this election is important, 1235 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,040 and unfortunately, one of them is that 1236 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,280 there are no, uh, people of color 1237 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:03,520 in the highest governing body in the land, and it's 2004. 1238 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,280 And I don't think that anyone would think 1239 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,080 that we would still be saying that in this day and age. 1240 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,600 He's gotten attention 1241 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,280 because after winning the primary so soundly, 1242 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,080 he could potentially be, you know, the only African American candidate 1243 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:24,080 in the United States Senate, and that's news. That's huge! 1244 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,840 I think the people of Illinois will make it happen. 1245 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,960 - Good morning. How are you? - Wait! 1246 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,120 This is a TV moment. What do you think? 1247 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,240 Watch yourself. Watch yourself. 1248 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:36,800 He's focused on the issues 1249 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,080 and he has been driven by a positive message of hope, 1250 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,000 and the notion that people-- 1251 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,560 We are all connected in some way, 1252 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,120 and I think that people want to hear that now. 1253 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,400 Some of you may know that my first job 1254 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:58,920 out of law school was directing a project called Project Vote. 1255 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,040 You know, my first love is getting people 1256 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,360 to participate in the political process 1257 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,680 because all the other stuff we do is dependent on folks 1258 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,760 being engaged and feeling a part, 1259 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,840 and feeling that their participation is actually going to make a difference. 1260 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,480 If all of us keep our eye on the ball, 1261 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,720 if all of us work hard between now and November 2nd, 1262 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,600 I have no doubt John Kerry is gonna be the president, 1263 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,760 John Edwards is gonna be the vice president, 1264 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,240 and Barack Obama's gonna be the next US senator. 1265 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,840 So, thank you so much, guys. 1266 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,080 I appreciate it. Thank you. I appreciate it. 1267 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,520 After he won the primary, there was a fundraiser. 1268 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,520 And John Kerry, who was poised to become 1269 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,240 the Democratic nominee for President, came in to speak. 1270 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:43,720 There were only two other speakers. 1271 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,840 One was Rich Daley, the mayor of Chicago. 1272 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,360 The other was Barack Obama. 1273 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,320 And Obama gave a rousing speech. 1274 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,680 In late June, we got a call 1275 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,560 from the manager of the Kerry campaign... 1276 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,240 and she said, "We'd like you to be the keynote speaker 1277 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,800 at the Democratic Convention." 1278 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,640 He said, "I'd be honored." 1279 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,480 And as soon as he hung up, he said, "I know what I want to say." 1280 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,360 It's good to see you. How are you? 1281 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,240 And, for the next few weeks as he drove around campaigning 1282 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,720 or was at the state senate in between votes, 1283 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,480 he'd be scribbling notes down. 1284 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,720 One day this fax came, and it was the draft. 1285 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,960 And, I read the first page, and handed it to my wife. 1286 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:32,600 I read the second page and handed it to my-- 1287 01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,240 By the third page, I-- I just turned to her. 1288 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,160 I said, "This is going to be one of the great convention speeches of all time." 1289 01:09:40,440 --> 01:09:41,840 The Democratic Party today 1290 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,880 made it clear they think they have discovered 1291 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,240 the biggest potential political star of either party 1292 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,800 to come out of Illinois since Abe Lincoln. 1293 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:54,200 His name is Barack Obama, and he's running for US Senate. 1294 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:55,680 The party announced today 1295 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,120 he'll be the keynote speaker at their Boston convention. 1296 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,240 Democrats could have picked someone more famous, 1297 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,320 but the pros saw something special in Barack Obama. 1298 01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:07,760 Barack's candidacy isn't just energizing 1299 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,640 the Democratic Party, but it's energizing people 1300 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,520 and giving them a renewed hope for politics, period. 1301 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,120 How are you? Nice to meet you. 1302 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,560 You know, they're tired of a politics of division, 1303 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:24,560 so it's very uplifting to see this wonderful young man 1304 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:30,080 who reminds so many people of their own sons and grandsons 1305 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,160 regardless of race. 1306 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,200 Do you think the Democratic Party 1307 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,560 selected you in part because they wanted to present 1308 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,360 an African American, young, rising politician? 1309 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,400 Well, I think that John Kerry cares a lot about diversity in the party. 1310 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,040 And I think that certainly made a difference. 1311 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,440 I also think that the manner in which we won 1312 01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,840 our primary in Illinois was a hopeful sign, 1313 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,920 because the conventional wisdom was that, uh, I would get the Black vote 1314 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,960 and then a sliver of, uh, a white vote, 1315 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,960 and instead we won in places people didn't expect us to win, 1316 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,920 in-- in suburban areas, in rural areas. 1317 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:15,000 And it indicates that people are really ready for a message for change. 1318 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,720 What they want is somebody who has a positive message, 1319 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,680 who has a tone in their politics that says, 1320 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,120 "We can disagree with the other side without being disagreeable." 1321 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,680 And I think that's the kind of message 1322 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,400 that John Kerry is going to be projecting 1323 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,080 at the convention during this week. 1324 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,720 The, uh, Black caucus of delegates 1325 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,360 to the 2004 Democratic Convention 1326 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,320 had their sessions, and they invited me to speak 1327 01:11:47,480 --> 01:11:50,720 'cause I was one of the candidates for president that year. 1328 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,960 And they invited Mr. Obama. 1329 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,080 And he says, "I just want to explain to you, Reverend, 1330 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,920 that, uh, you know, I'm doing the keynote tomorrow night, 1331 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,200 and I'm probably gonna be more expansive 1332 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:06,400 and unifying, uh, than, uh, a lot of people 1333 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,840 are-- are used to." 1334 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,840 And I stopped him then and said, "Don't worry, Senator, 1335 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,440 you do what you have to do tomorrow night 1336 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,920 'cause you have to win for the US Senate. 1337 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,560 I'm gonna take care of the brothers and sisters tonight." 1338 01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,320 And he kind of looked at me 1339 01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:23,600 the way he kind of looks his head and he laughed. 1340 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,080 And I think that began a relationship 1341 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:32,200 where he and I understood, uh, that we play different roles. 1342 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,160 Thank you so much. Thank you. 1343 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,360 Thank you. 1344 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,040 Let me express my deepest gratitude 1345 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,760 for the privilege of addressing this convention. 1346 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,600 Tonight is a particular honor for me 1347 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,240 because, let's face it, my presence on this stage 1348 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,480 is pretty unlikely. 1349 01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,280 When I first saw Barack Obama, I was skeptical. 1350 01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:03,040 And my introduction to him was like very many people's introduction, 1351 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,560 the 2004 Democratic National Convention 1352 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,080 where he gave the keynote speech. 1353 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,720 But I was intrigued, even as I was skeptical. 1354 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,960 I stand here knowing that my story is part of the larger American story, 1355 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,440 that I owe a debt to all of those who came before me, 1356 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,600 and that, in no other country on Earth, 1357 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,920 is my story even possible. 1358 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,480 We wanted to createa movement that inspired people 1359 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,040 to believe that we could overcome 1360 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:35,200 some of these really, uh, great barriers in our politics. 1361 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,600 That we could overcome the cynicism. 1362 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,560 You know, I thought that this speech 1363 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,200 was going to have a galvanic effect for Obama. 1364 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,680 Didn't realize how much until I was in the room in Boston. 1365 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,560 This year, in this election, 1366 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,240 we are called to reaffirm our values and our commitments, 1367 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,240 to hold them against a hard reality 1368 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,840 and see how we are measuring up, to the legacy of our forbearers, 1369 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,480 and the promise of future generations. 1370 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,960 And fellow Americans, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, 1371 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,520 I say to you tonight, we have more work to do. 1372 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,240 I was sitting up in one of the box seats, 1373 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,320 and I had some activists with me. 1374 01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:18,120 And they were like, "Well, why isn't he talking about voting rights, 1375 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,080 and why isn't he talking about some of our issues?" 1376 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,720 John Kerry believes in America. 1377 01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:30,280 And he knows that it's not enough for just some of us to prosper. 1378 01:14:30,440 --> 01:14:33,880 I understood that he had to deal 1379 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,280 with a broad range of issues, 1380 01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:41,640 and that he was running for the US Senate 1381 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,720 to represent everybody in Illinois. 1382 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,040 If there is a child on the South Side of Chicago 1383 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,560 who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. 1384 01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:54,760 And I actually got into arguments defending him. 1385 01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:59,440 I would say, "Wait a minute. We-- we cannot fight 1386 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,920 to get our best to the mainstream, 1387 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,200 and then tell them, 'Don't talk to the mainstream 1388 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,240 about mainstream issues.'" 1389 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,000 It is that fundamental belief, 1390 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,800 I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper, 1391 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,400 that makes this country work. 1392 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,680 It's what allows us to pursue our individual dreams, 1393 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,880 and yet still come together as one American family. 1394 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:30,120 E pluribus unum. Out of many, one. 1395 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,600 It's his position. As an American politician, 1396 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,440 his goal is to represent the best interest 1397 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,600 of the entire nation from a particular position 1398 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,360 and standpoint as a Black man, but broadening out, 1399 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,080 not only what that Blackness might mean, 1400 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:48,520 but how it might also encompass and include all of America. 1401 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,440 Now, even as we speak, 1402 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,000 there are those who are preparing to divide us. 1403 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,000 The spin masters, the negative ad peddlers, 1404 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,520 who embrace the politics of anything goes. 1405 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,000 Well, I say to them tonight, 1406 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,640 there is not a liberal America and a conservative America, 1407 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,320 there is the United States of America. 1408 01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:13,360 There is not a Black America and a white America 1409 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,120 and Latino America and Asian America, 1410 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,120 there's the United States of America. 1411 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,520 The pundits, the pundits like to slice... 1412 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,120 You know, he made that statement, 1413 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:26,760 "There's not a Black America or a white America, 1414 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,040 there's the United States of America." 1415 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:30,680 Now, that's not true. 1416 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,600 There's totally a Black America and a white America. 1417 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:38,040 And there's a Latino America, a gay America, a poor America, 1418 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,920 uh, there's a America that is disproportionately incarcerated, 1419 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,520 there are all of those things. 1420 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,480 We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance 1421 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,000 to the stars and stripes, 1422 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:51,880 all of us defending the United States of America. 1423 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:56,240 But you also had to understand that he was speaking aspirationally... 1424 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,920 that people wanted to belong to a country 1425 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:05,600 in which those were not permanent and impermeable distinctions. 1426 01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:12,400 In the end, that's what this election is about. 1427 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,360 Do we participate in a politics of cynicism, 1428 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,520 or do we participate in a politics of hope? 1429 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,160 Hope! 1430 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,640 I don't think Obama had any illusion 1431 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,680 that everybody had transcended race 1432 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,560 and had transcended historical animosities and all the rest, 1433 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,200 and everybody was in full embrace of great unity. 1434 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,080 It was a new kind of American optimism. 1435 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:44,280 Voiced by somebody who embodied this melding of identity. 1436 01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:46,560 It's the hope of slaves sitting around a fire 1437 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,040 singing freedom songs, 1438 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,920 the hope of immigrants setting out for distant shores, 1439 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:57,480 the hope of a young naval lieutenant bravely patrolling the Mekong Delta, 1440 01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,440 the hope of a millworker's son who dares to defy the odds, 1441 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,880 the hope of a skinny kid with a funny name 1442 01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,320 who believes that America has a place for him too. 1443 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,960 I was there at the convention, 1444 01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,160 and it was riveting, electrifying. 1445 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,560 It was comparable to King standing 1446 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,000 at the summit of expectation in 1963, 1447 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,480 where he identifies a golden thread 1448 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:32,720 of the American dream and weaves it into a tapestry 1449 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,320 of American democratic possibility. 1450 01:18:35,480 --> 01:18:36,840 Hope. 1451 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:42,840 Hope in the face of difficulty. Hope in the face of uncertainty. 1452 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,320 The audacity of hope. 1453 01:18:45,480 --> 01:18:48,160 In the end, that is God's greatest gift to us. 1454 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,000 The bedrock of this nation. 1455 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,360 Now, I'm not saying that the 2004 speech 1456 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,160 measured up to the "I Have a Dream" speech 1457 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,160 in terms of rhetorical eloquence, though it was eloquent. 1458 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,160 Thank you very much, everybody. God bless you. Thank you. 1459 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,960 But it did have an electrifying effect 1460 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,080 in that same way. 1461 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,720 That was a tremendous coming out party for Barack Obama. 1462 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,680 Thank you. 1463 01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,240 Barack Obama. 1464 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,440 Well, this is why you go into this business, to watch a speech like that. 1465 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:22,960 He's the only speaker 1466 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,680 who's come to this convention without any expectation 1467 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,520 because people didn't know him, and boy, they know him now. 1468 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,200 This is a guy who transcends labels, 1469 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,400 um, clichés, racial, ideological, cultural. 1470 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,400 He mixed it all up, he reinvented it, 1471 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,920 he gave us a whole new vision of the United States. 1472 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,680 -Yeah. -This guy's going places. 1473 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:59,440 Six hundred... and fifty-six days ago... 1474 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:04,040 I announced in a room a little smaller than this-- 1475 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,000 All right, it was a lot smaller. 1476 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:11,080 That I was announcing for the United States Senate. 1477 01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:15,040 And at the time, as many of you know... 1478 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:20,200 people were respectful, but nevertheless skeptical. 1479 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,240 They felt that in a nation as divided as ours, 1480 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,840 there was no possibility that someone who looked like me 1481 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,640 could ever aspire to the United States Senate. 1482 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,440 They felt that in a fearful nation, 1483 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:40,160 someone named "Barack Obama" could never hope to win an election. 1484 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:46,360 And yet, here we stand because we had a different concept, 1485 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,280 a different notion of the American people. 1486 01:20:50,440 --> 01:20:52,400 And for those skeptics, 1487 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,680 I say to them, look at this crowd tonight. 1488 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,120 Look at this election today. 1489 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,160 And I have three words for them! 1490 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,920 -What are those words? -Yes we can! 1491 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:09,160 Thank you, Illinois, I love you! Thank you! 1492 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,280 Hey, guys! 1493 01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:14,360 Good morning, everyone, and I thank you for joining us today 1494 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:18,720 as we stand here in the midst, once again, 1495 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,520 of a very historic election. 1496 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:25,040 I'm extremely excited to welcome Senator-elect Barack Obama 1497 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:26,720 to the Congressional Black Caucus. 1498 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,880 Only the third African American since Reconstruction 1499 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,120 to be elected to the United States Senate. 1500 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,840 This is such a historic race. Any pressure? 1501 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,080 Well, you know, I don't feel pressure in the sense that, 1502 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,400 uh, most of the issues that I'm concerned about 1503 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,080 are issues that the African American community is concerned about. 1504 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,080 But when it comes to speaking out on issues 1505 01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,760 that are of particular importance to the African American community, 1506 01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,720 I don't think that's a conflict with my role 1507 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:54,600 as a, uh, effective legislator for the people of Illinois. 1508 01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,280 The expectations are so high for you. 1509 01:21:58,440 --> 01:21:59,920 How do you possibly meet those expectations? 1510 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,080 Well, I don't think that anybody expects me, realistically, 1511 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,360 to single-handedly transform politics in America, 1512 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,800 certainly not before I'm sworn in. 1513 01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,480 ...that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same... 1514 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,720 I think it's important as we head into a new session 1515 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,720 to confront problems... 1516 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,720 to not pass them on to future congresses 1517 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,760 or a future president. 1518 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,200 And so, I want to confront problems, and I will. 1519 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:30,080 I'll call upon Congress to take on... big issues. 1520 01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:34,200 And I look forward to working with members of both parties to do just that. 1521 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:36,920 Am I making a right or a left here? 1522 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,440 For the first year of his Senate tenure, 1523 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,000 we really tried to be very low key for two reasons. 1524 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,680 We didn't want to signal to the people of Illinois 1525 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,600 that somehow Obama was using Illinois 1526 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,000 as a stepping-stone to something else. 1527 01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,640 And-- and that wasn't his intent. 1528 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,120 We also didn't want to aggravate his colleagues 1529 01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,840 who were naturally resentful of all the attention. 1530 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,920 He could've done a Sunday show every week. 1531 01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:06,080 And then in late 2005, Katrina happened. 1532 01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:18,600 In August 2005, the Gulf is underwater. 1533 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,880 New Orleans is underwater. 1534 01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,480 And it is very evident that not only 1535 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,040 are the preparations for this abysmal, 1536 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:32,080 but the racial disparity in the way people were treated 1537 01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,640 and cared for was appalling. 1538 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,800 And the indifference from Washington 1539 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,560 and other levels of government was appalling. 1540 01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:42,080 They told us, "Go to the Superdome. 1541 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,000 If you want to be rescued, go to the Superdome." 1542 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,560 All of a sudden, now they're telling us, "Go to the bridge." 1543 01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,800 We all have very few resources. What are we supposed to do? 1544 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,760 When asked if race played a role in his response, 1545 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,400 the president had a stern answer. 1546 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,600 My attitude is this, the storm didn't discriminate 1547 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,240 and neither will the recovery effort. 1548 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,200 President George Bush said that the storm 1549 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,280 was indifferent to race. 1550 01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:06,600 But people who could afford to live higher 1551 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,560 and better were not as vulnerable 1552 01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,160 to those who were more in the storm's path. 1553 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,800 So, where you lived in the storm's path 1554 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:20,160 was determined by pre-existing economic condition. 1555 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:26,520 What do you do when you see the richest nation in the world 1556 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,120 and there are hundreds and hundreds 1557 01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,960 of dead Black people floating in the streets? 1558 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,040 And the government, alternately, saying 1559 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,840 that it's powerless to intervene in any way 1560 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,640 that would save these people's lives. 1561 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:47,280 This was a visual reminder of the disposability 1562 01:24:47,440 --> 01:24:49,320 of Black people's lives in the United States. 1563 01:24:49,480 --> 01:24:52,240 Especially poor people. 1564 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,960 The important thing for us now is to recognize that 1565 01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,160 we have situations in America 1566 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,880 in which race continues to play a part, 1567 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,000 that class continues to play a part, 1568 01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,920 and when disaster strikes, it tears the curtain away 1569 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,840 from the festering problems that we have beneath them. 1570 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,760 And Black and White, all of us should be concerned. 1571 01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,720 For, I think, a lot of African Americans, 1572 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,800 Hurricane Katrina was like 9/11 1573 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:26,840 in terms of shaking the foundations of their relationship to this country. 1574 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,720 I think that was probably central 1575 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,320 to the narrative that wound up ultimately 1576 01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:34,440 giving Barack Obama an opportunity 1577 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,560 to run for president of the United States. 1578 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,400 Hi, how are you? Good to see you. 1579 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,760 -How've you been? Happy new year to you. -Hi. Happy New Year. 1580 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,760 Throughout 2006, the drumbeat was building for him 1581 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,680 to become a candidate for president. 1582 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,600 We postponed a trip to Africa 1583 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,960 because he was trying to keep a lower profile. 1584 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,760 Finally, in the summer of 2006, he went. 1585 01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:14,400 I'm on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee 1586 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,960 and so I wanted to make sure that I was getting information 1587 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,040 that would help me do my job better as a US senator. 1588 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,040 -We're really grateful. -Yeah, thank you. 1589 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:24,720 -Nice to see you. -Best of luck to you guys. 1590 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,200 -Thank you very much. -Good. Good. 1591 01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:30,560 I think I can be helpful in putting a different face 1592 01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,360 on US foreign policy and the US government. 1593 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:39,880 My wife and I are going to get tested for HIV/AIDS. 1594 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:45,040 So I just want everybody to remember that if a US senator can get tested, 1595 01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,960 then everybody in this crowd can get tested. 1596 01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:49,920 And everybody in this city can get tested 1597 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,040 because you need to know your status. 1598 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,440 I have stopped expecting things in my life 1599 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,960 as the wife of Senator Barack Obama because everything is a surprise. 1600 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,440 See you, guys. 1601 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:08,360 But it was completely overwhelming to see hundreds and hundreds 1602 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:09,880 and thousands and thousands of people 1603 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:14,360 just lining the streets cheering this man, my husband. 1604 01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,280 It's sort of like, "Do you-- you know him?" 1605 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:24,000 His coming here is a message, not only to us, it's an inspiration, 1606 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,760 but to the entire world. 1607 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,680 Who's the artist? Who made it? 1608 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,240 -Who made it? - This guy? 1609 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,640 -Hey! This is a beautiful gift. -Thank you. 1610 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,200 Thank you so much. This is beautiful! Yeah! 1611 01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:40,360 Except I think he's-- he looks better-looking than I am. 1612 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,400 Come here! Come, come, come, come. 1613 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,760 My sense is that, as I talk to individual Africans, 1614 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,520 their appreciation of someone with my background 1615 01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:53,560 being able to rise up and have some influence 1616 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,040 over the course of events in the United States 1617 01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,040 was impressive for them. 1618 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,480 Once we got to my father's compound, 1619 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,760 there wasn't much room for family visitation... 1620 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,160 and I think it was a little overwhelming for my grandmother. 1621 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,320 Auma, just-- just, uh, come and translate for Granny. 1622 01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:22,360 How does she feel... 1623 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,880 to have the man she raised's son here again? 1624 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,040 She said she feels very, very good. 1625 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,840 That's it. That's a soundbite right there. 1626 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:40,840 We're not wasting any time. 1627 01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,160 He's not all ours. 1628 01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,320 The last time he was here, you know, it was all about family, 1629 01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:47,920 it was all about visiting us. 1630 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,560 Senator, coming back 14 years later... 1631 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:53,200 And now, we have quite limited time with him. 1632 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,360 This time around, we really are just there to support him. 1633 01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:57,960 The first time I came here... 1634 01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:02,480 He's-- he's on official business and it's very, very obvious. 1635 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:07,480 I didn't expect the attention to be that great, nationally. 1636 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,400 Because, I mean, he's on the national news 1637 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,840 more than the president is at the moment. 1638 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,280 He's very big, and I didn't realize that. 1639 01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:18,480 I didn't realize how-- how important he's become. 1640 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,160 I'm having a wonderful time in Kenya. 1641 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,120 All of you are my brothers, all of you are my sisters. 1642 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,560 I want to thank everybody here! 1643 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,400 And as his sister, to be honest, it's very worrying 1644 01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,200 because I think at the end of the day, 1645 01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,560 it's a lot to put on the shoulders of one person. 1646 01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,720 And he's really quite a young politician. 1647 01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,080 Hopefully, what is taken away 1648 01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,640 by, uh, Africans who met me is that... 1649 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,840 ...an effective country is not going to be based on tribe, 1650 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,880 it's not going to be based on an ethnic majority imposing its will. 1651 01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:02,840 But it's going to be based on a credo that says every individual, 1652 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,000 regardless of their background... 1653 01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:09,040 should have equal rights and equal opportunity. 1654 01:30:10,440 --> 01:30:13,440 I want to say to everybody, thank you, I appreciate you, 1655 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,680 and I look forward to coming back soon. 1656 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:24,200 The reaction to him there was so kinetic... 1657 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:30,360 and really signaled that this guy was a-- a globally important leader. 1658 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:36,560 I-- I said to the senator, "He can't-- can't be a senator. 1659 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,280 I mean, who's this-- who's this young boy?" 1660 01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:42,400 And, uh... 1661 01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,360 But we're very, very impressed with you. 1662 01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,560 You're-- you're going to be a very credible, 1663 01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:52,240 -uh, presidential candidate. -Wow. 1664 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,320 No, don't get me into trouble there with the... 1665 01:30:55,480 --> 01:30:59,040 He's-- he's-- he's shy. 1666 01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,560 It became clearer and clearer that he was going to have 1667 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,040 to take a look at running for president 1668 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:12,600 and that he may be interested in running for president. 1669 01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:16,160 Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer had called him into Reid's office 1670 01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,040 to say, "You really ought to think about running." 1671 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:20,640 Which shocked Obama, 1672 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:24,040 that the Senate leaders would take that step to encourage him. 1673 01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,880 And he said, "You know, I-- I gotta think about this." 1674 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,320 -Welcome to Iowa. -Thank you, I appreciate it. 1675 01:31:29,480 --> 01:31:31,360 Did you guys practice that? 1676 01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:33,840 He went and spoken at the Harkins Steak-Fry, 1677 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:35,480 which was an iconic event. 1678 01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:39,160 It was a gathering place for Democrats and a trial setting for all 1679 01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,480 Democratic presidential candidates. 1680 01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:44,160 And Obama took that place by storm. 1681 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:45,640 Right now, I'm focused on '06, 1682 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,400 and we're gonna get all these Democrats elected. 1683 01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:50,040 -Yes. That's exactly right. -And then after the election, you know, 1684 01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:51,960 we're gonna then think about '08. All right? 1685 01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:53,520 And it's gonna take groups like... 1686 01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,160 I invited him to come to Atlanta. 1687 01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:02,720 We walked downtown Atlanta from my office for lunch. 1688 01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,960 And along the way people kept saying, 1689 01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,720 "Mr. Obama, are you going to run? Are you going to run?" 1690 01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:14,440 And he just sort of, uh, said, "Oh, maybe. I don't know." 1691 01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:18,080 He took a seat in the little restaurant... 1692 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,080 and the waiters and waitresses, 1693 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,000 other people just kept coming up to him. 1694 01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,120 They said, "Run, Mr. Obama. Run. Run." 1695 01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:36,200 I was sitting in my office, and he came in unannounced, um... 1696 01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,600 White Sox cap on, blue jeans. 1697 01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,840 I-- I think most people in the office didn't even see him passing through. 1698 01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,880 And he plopped down in a chair and said, 1699 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,320 "You know, I'm close to making a decision to do this." 1700 01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:51,080 I told him, "My concern for you, Barack, 1701 01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:55,160 is not that you're gonna lose. It's that you're gonna win." 144969

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