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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,740 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 2 00:00:12,666 --> 00:00:14,466 Three things you need to know 3 00:00:14,533 --> 00:00:16,266 about Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong. 4 00:00:17,933 --> 00:00:21,633 The first... she was never what you would call normal. 5 00:00:22,633 --> 00:00:25,733 As a kid, she grew faster, was awkward... 6 00:00:26,666 --> 00:00:27,500 lonely. 7 00:00:30,733 --> 00:00:33,600 When her parents built her this life-size dollhouse, 8 00:00:34,666 --> 00:00:37,300 the neighborhood kids finally came over to play. 9 00:00:44,500 --> 00:00:47,800 Marjorie grew up to be a beautiful, smart, young woman. 10 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,700 She earned a master's degree in education. 11 00:00:51,966 --> 00:00:53,733 People found her captivating. 12 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,466 Especially men, who would do almost anything for her. 13 00:01:01,366 --> 00:01:04,990 I've been talking with Marge for over a decade. 14 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:11,366 This is one of the boxes of letters from Marge. 15 00:01:12,266 --> 00:01:14,000 And this is probably about... 16 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,500 Oh, I don't know, maybe half of the letters through the years. 17 00:01:20,666 --> 00:01:23,166 Yeah, there's just-- It's just endless. 18 00:01:24,933 --> 00:01:27,300 I'm trying to get her to tell me the truth 19 00:01:27,366 --> 00:01:33,000 about a pizza deliveryman and a crime that became FBI major case number 203. 20 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:38,933 I'm trying to prevent your movie from being a flop. 21 00:01:39,666 --> 00:01:43,566 I am not some evil genius who was greedy and wanted some guy 22 00:01:43,633 --> 00:01:44,966 to rob a bank for me. 23 00:01:45,330 --> 00:01:48,433 I didn't have anything to do with the goddamn crime! 24 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:56,740 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 25 00:01:59,466 --> 00:02:02,600 - 911, what's your emergency? - We've been robbed. 26 00:02:02,666 --> 00:02:05,533 - Okay, stay on the line. - Okay. 27 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,633 - Is anyone hurt? - No. 28 00:02:08,666 --> 00:02:11,833 The guy walked out with I don't know how much cash in a bag. 29 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:14,433 He had a bomb or something wrapped around his neck. 30 00:02:14,933 --> 00:02:17,433 He's sitting in a parking lot on upper Peach. 31 00:02:17,500 --> 00:02:19,800 I'm watching him out my rearview mirror. 32 00:02:20,900 --> 00:02:24,733 The man told police that the bomb had been strapped to his body 33 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,200 and that he was forced to rob the bank. 34 00:02:27,266 --> 00:02:30,400 Maybe you can get the keys? To get out of this thing. 35 00:02:30,466 --> 00:02:32,433 I don't know if I have enough time. 36 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,433 I'm not lying! 37 00:02:43,766 --> 00:02:45,933 It's gonna go off. 38 00:03:44,966 --> 00:03:46,333 My name is Lamont King. 39 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,366 A retired corporal with Pennsylvania State Police, crime unit supervisor. 40 00:03:52,966 --> 00:03:55,200 On the, uh, 28th of August... 41 00:03:55,833 --> 00:03:57,233 ...of, uh, 2003, 42 00:03:57,966 --> 00:04:02,660 uh, I was in my office, and received information that the PNC Bank, 43 00:04:02,133 --> 00:04:03,966 located directly across here, 44 00:04:04,733 --> 00:04:08,900 uh, had been robbed by an individual apparently wearing a collar bomb. 45 00:04:12,660 --> 00:04:16,500 Brian Wells walked into the bank with a cane and the collar around his neck. 46 00:04:18,660 --> 00:04:22,400 We later learned that the, uh, cane, it was actually a gun, a cane gun. 47 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,666 He handed the teller a note. 48 00:04:38,660 --> 00:04:42,733 The notes were nine pages. They were quite rambling in places. 49 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,566 There were a couple that were instructions for Brian. There were... 50 00:04:46,633 --> 00:04:49,400 One that he was to give to the bank manager. 51 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:52,300 One was for police. 52 00:05:01,366 --> 00:05:05,660 Bank notes are... "I have a gun. Give me all your money." 53 00:05:05,133 --> 00:05:08,133 I mean, they're not usually dissertations 54 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,466 that are miles long. 55 00:05:29,733 --> 00:05:32,333 He had asked for $250,000. 56 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,466 In the end, all he got was what was in the drawers, somewhere around $8,000. 57 00:05:47,333 --> 00:05:50,133 He exited the bank, stopped at McDonald's 58 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,633 and picked up apparently, a note. 59 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,766 Got his vehicle on the road, proceeded to head south on Route 19, 60 00:06:01,833 --> 00:06:04,400 which is Peach Street, when our units arrived, 61 00:06:04,466 --> 00:06:06,966 at which time our units spotted his vehicle 62 00:06:07,330 --> 00:06:10,233 and pulled him over in the Eyeglass World parking lot. 63 00:06:20,533 --> 00:06:23,133 I was assigned to the patrol unit here in Erie, 64 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,966 and was riding my motorcycle. 65 00:06:25,330 --> 00:06:28,766 I was made aware of the situation going on over on Peach Street. 66 00:06:31,133 --> 00:06:34,200 Police captured Brian Wells, age 46, 67 00:06:34,266 --> 00:06:37,700 a pizza deliveryman, just minutes after he left the bank. 68 00:06:39,933 --> 00:06:41,900 We got him and handcuffed him. 69 00:06:46,900 --> 00:06:49,266 And Brian said something about a bomb. 70 00:06:51,330 --> 00:06:55,660 It was Trooper Syzmanski who went up and, using a small pair of scissors, 71 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:59,966 cut the sides of the shirt, because whatever he had was underneath. 72 00:07:00,533 --> 00:07:03,200 When Syzmanski lifted the shirt, he goes: 73 00:07:03,266 --> 00:07:05,133 "Yeah, that looks like a bomb." 74 00:07:05,666 --> 00:07:08,333 That's when they sat him down to isolate him. 75 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,333 I'm gonna need a radio out here. 76 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,333 This guy's looking right at us. 77 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,166 Shoo them all over to 90. 78 00:07:17,866 --> 00:07:22,133 When I pulled up, the general consensus is it was probably a fake bomb, 79 00:07:22,566 --> 00:07:25,100 but we never know, so we act like it's real. 80 00:07:26,166 --> 00:07:29,533 When I arrived, uh, he was already on his knees, cuffed, 81 00:07:30,366 --> 00:07:32,100 and he was talking calmly. 82 00:07:32,166 --> 00:07:36,633 We were going back and forth with him being a willing participant or a hostage. 83 00:07:36,700 --> 00:07:40,000 Can you at least take these freakin' handcuffs off? 84 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:43,733 I look through binoculars, and he's talking. 85 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,633 He's nervous, but he's not talking agitated. He's not agitated. 86 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:51,700 Why is it nobody's trying to come to get this thing off of me? 87 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,866 He was concerned about getting the collar off. 88 00:07:55,766 --> 00:07:58,200 It's gonna go off! 89 00:07:59,533 --> 00:08:03,400 Soon as we believed we had a bomb, the call went to Erie bomb squad. 90 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,933 It's just unfortunate that they were probably over ten miles away. 91 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,566 And another unfortunate thing is that in the process of protecting the public 92 00:08:12,966 --> 00:08:16,733 by closing down Peach Street, we've now created a traffic problem 93 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,166 that the bomb squad has to contend with this traffic. 94 00:08:22,700 --> 00:08:25,133 -Did you call my boss? -Yeah, we called him. 95 00:08:27,766 --> 00:08:30,500 We realized what pizza shop he worked at, 96 00:08:30,566 --> 00:08:33,333 and I sent two guys there to conduct interviews. 97 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:37,733 Coworkers at Mama Mia's Pizzaria saw Wells leave 98 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:41,900 to deliver two sausage and pepperoni pies to a remote location, 99 00:08:42,166 --> 00:08:44,300 an unoccupied radio tower. 100 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,866 He said black people, uh, jumped him and put the collar around his neck. 101 00:08:50,933 --> 00:08:53,733 He pulled the key out and started a timer. 102 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,333 I heard the thing ticking when he did it. 103 00:08:57,660 --> 00:08:58,566 He never said who it was. 104 00:08:59,330 --> 00:09:03,933 He couldn't describe the black individuals he claimed put the bomb around his neck. 105 00:09:06,133 --> 00:09:09,333 You know there's probably not a black person involved, 106 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,400 but that's what they're gonna say. 107 00:09:12,333 --> 00:09:17,330 I was wondering if you guys could get those instructions to go get the keys. 108 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:21,366 At that time, I start hearing a beep. 109 00:09:23,333 --> 00:09:25,600 His whole demeanor changed. 110 00:09:25,700 --> 00:09:27,566 Maybe you can get the keys? 111 00:09:27,633 --> 00:09:29,133 To get out of this thing. 112 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,500 I don't know if I have enough time now. 113 00:09:31,566 --> 00:09:35,466 It's at that time that he realized that it is a real bomb. 114 00:09:35,533 --> 00:09:37,500 I'm not lying. 115 00:09:37,566 --> 00:09:40,400 I don't think he realized until it started beeping. 116 00:09:47,333 --> 00:09:49,333 ...tell you where to get the keys. 117 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,766 Can you go to the next site in the car? 118 00:09:52,533 --> 00:09:54,966 -I don't have a lot of time. -We're gonna have to... 119 00:09:55,330 --> 00:09:57,233 He was getting excited, and then 120 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,533 I kept hearing it. It, you know, was going beep, beep. 121 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,666 I was zoomed in on his face. 122 00:10:05,966 --> 00:10:07,766 It's gonna go off! 123 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,100 I'm not lying! 124 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:28,800 His eyes just got real wide. 125 00:10:31,700 --> 00:10:36,866 Then they went to the back of his head. And that was the end of him. 126 00:10:43,433 --> 00:10:46,533 A few minutes ago, I was looking in that direction. 127 00:10:46,900 --> 00:10:50,166 The man was sitting there as he was since about 3:00 128 00:10:50,233 --> 00:10:54,233 when all of a sudden a loud explosion, and he flipped onto his back, 129 00:10:54,300 --> 00:10:58,300 and the police troopers scrambled. They're still holding guns on him. 130 00:10:58,366 --> 00:11:00,700 They're still not sure of his condition. 131 00:11:07,266 --> 00:11:10,330 My name's Tom Stankiewicz. On August 28th, 2003, 132 00:11:10,100 --> 00:11:12,933 I was the bomb squad commander for Erie Police. 133 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,900 Within about four blocks of our arrival, 134 00:11:17,966 --> 00:11:21,900 we received information over the radio a bomb exploded on this suspect. 135 00:11:23,330 --> 00:11:25,866 He had still been breathing up until a couple of... 136 00:11:25,933 --> 00:11:28,600 Really until the moment before we had arrived. 137 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,966 We put on bomb suits, took up the necessary equipment we might need. 138 00:11:36,433 --> 00:11:40,866 On approaching the person at the scene, it was evident that he was deceased. 139 00:11:47,330 --> 00:11:51,633 The suspect still had part of the device secured to his neck. 140 00:11:57,733 --> 00:12:01,833 We went through to make sure there were no more explosive devices on him, 141 00:12:01,900 --> 00:12:06,660 and searched his vehicle for any potential further explosive devices. 142 00:12:25,866 --> 00:12:28,000 Brian was to go on a scavenger hunt. 143 00:12:33,330 --> 00:12:36,733 He was supposed to go from point A to point B to point C to point D 144 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,633 to get further instructions to eventually lead him to a location 145 00:12:40,700 --> 00:12:42,833 where the keys would be given to release this bomb. 146 00:13:05,633 --> 00:13:09,633 He was following instructions from the McDonald's to this site. 147 00:13:10,966 --> 00:13:14,466 Contacted the bomb squad. They came in and swept the area. 148 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,933 The clue was sitting in the, uh-- 149 00:13:18,866 --> 00:13:24,400 In a coffee can, maybe five or ten yards off the berm. 150 00:13:24,866 --> 00:13:28,700 Just to the right of this sign. It's not too far from the sign. 151 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,766 From the drop-off point number one, which was Interchange Road, 152 00:13:40,833 --> 00:13:44,500 he was to go to his next drop-off point, which was on 79 South, 153 00:13:44,566 --> 00:13:47,000 pretty close to the McKean Township exit. 154 00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:55,266 Where we are is the second place for the scavenger hunt 155 00:13:55,333 --> 00:13:57,233 that he was directed to come to. 156 00:13:58,866 --> 00:14:02,233 What we found here as we were looking for other items... 157 00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:05,833 Uh, we found an orange tape sign with "Vietnam" on it. 158 00:14:10,166 --> 00:14:12,233 As we were looking in through here, 159 00:14:12,966 --> 00:14:15,733 I noticed way back on the other side of that field 160 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,533 a minivan coming this way and started to come towards us. 161 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:27,766 But it looked like he was coming to this point also and we surprised him. 162 00:14:28,366 --> 00:14:31,666 And, uh, when he saw us, he stopped for a while, 163 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,330 hesitated, backed up, and took off. 164 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,766 And he was so far away, we couldn't drive up through here. He basically got away. 165 00:14:45,533 --> 00:14:49,833 It was like a, uh, blue type, dirty blue type van. 166 00:14:51,233 --> 00:14:55,566 I figured whoever was responsible for leaving the notes was in that van. 167 00:14:55,766 --> 00:14:58,433 Leaving the notes at both the drop-off points. 168 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:02,600 Actually, that van always bothered me. 169 00:15:03,133 --> 00:15:04,266 Always bothered me. 170 00:15:06,233 --> 00:15:10,833 We did our preliminary investigation and referred it right back to the FBI, 171 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,333 but the van was never mentioned again. 172 00:15:18,833 --> 00:15:22,366 Initially when the call came in, it was a state police case 173 00:15:22,433 --> 00:15:25,800 because we had had a crime committed within our jurisdiction. 174 00:15:26,366 --> 00:15:30,633 And being a bank, federal investigators would eventually be brought in. 175 00:15:33,233 --> 00:15:36,766 Of course, there's always a brief jurisdictional dispute. 176 00:15:36,833 --> 00:15:40,566 ATF and the FBI and the state police, everybody had a huddle. 177 00:15:40,633 --> 00:15:43,466 And they're like, "Whose case is this?" ATF says, 178 00:15:43,533 --> 00:15:45,933 "We have jurisdiction because it's an explosive device." 179 00:15:46,366 --> 00:15:48,533 Uh, state police said, "This was on our turf." 180 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,966 FBI said, "No, this is a bank robbery case, which the FBI handles." 181 00:15:52,330 --> 00:15:56,700 They went back and forth a bit. Turned out that the FBI was gonna take point, 182 00:15:56,766 --> 00:15:59,200 assisted by the state police and the ATF. 183 00:16:01,533 --> 00:16:02,933 My name is Jerry Clark. 184 00:16:03,666 --> 00:16:07,800 I was the lead investigator as a special agent for the FBI. 185 00:16:09,466 --> 00:16:12,533 Night of the bombing, I drafted an affidavit with the, uh, 186 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,233 U.S. Attorney's office, 187 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,466 and we executed a search warrant at Brian Wells' residence. 188 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,866 We made entry into Mr. Wells' residence using an explosive breach, 189 00:16:25,633 --> 00:16:28,533 because we weren't sure what we were gonna find. 190 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Once inside, we didn't find a whole lot. 191 00:16:35,966 --> 00:16:39,400 But we did find interesting things, including an address book 192 00:16:39,466 --> 00:16:43,200 that had the names and telephone numbers of some local prostitutes. 193 00:16:45,233 --> 00:16:49,366 We never did find any physical evidence that linked him to the bombing. 194 00:16:57,966 --> 00:17:01,666 It was 3 in the morning by the time we transported him back 195 00:17:01,733 --> 00:17:03,233 to the coroner's office. 196 00:17:04,533 --> 00:17:06,500 We started discussing the collar. 197 00:17:09,330 --> 00:17:11,733 It was the primary piece of evidence at the time. 198 00:17:12,330 --> 00:17:17,500 Uh, and, of course, uh, the other agencies didn't want that disrupted very much. 199 00:17:18,833 --> 00:17:23,333 It said in the note the collar was booby-trapped, but my concern was safety. 200 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,990 That's when the decision was made to do a, uh, 201 00:17:26,766 --> 00:17:30,333 essentially a surgical decapitation of the body. 202 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,330 In order for them to remove the device, 203 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:37,660 they had to actually cut his head off to remove it. 204 00:17:38,833 --> 00:17:40,633 It was, probably still is, 205 00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:42,900 the most difficult decision I've ever made. 206 00:17:45,633 --> 00:17:47,900 It was done in a way that was, uh... 207 00:17:49,266 --> 00:17:53,400 I mean, it's difficult to describe, but it was done in a very, uh... 208 00:17:54,933 --> 00:17:55,800 caring way. 209 00:18:03,660 --> 00:18:07,100 43-year-old Brian Wells, who lived in a nice Mill Creek neighborhood, 210 00:18:07,166 --> 00:18:11,666 was described by neighbors as very friendly, very nice, almost childlike. 211 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,700 My name is Linda Payne, and Brian lived in this little house. 212 00:18:18,833 --> 00:18:21,700 And he was a good renter. 213 00:18:22,533 --> 00:18:25,766 He did have three cats that he kept inside all the time. 214 00:18:26,133 --> 00:18:29,800 Once in a while, he'd carry one out. He was pretty even-tempered. 215 00:18:30,266 --> 00:18:32,633 Uh, if he did get excited, he danced a little. 216 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:34,933 It was just the way he was. You know. 217 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:41,866 Sometimes he would take his mother to the movies. 218 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:46,500 If there was a free concert, he'd take his mother and her friend. 219 00:18:48,100 --> 00:18:51,400 He liked scavenger hunts, the key hunt in the paper. 220 00:18:52,766 --> 00:18:56,866 They put clues in the paper every day, and it would be some landmark place 221 00:18:56,933 --> 00:18:59,466 around the county that the key would be. 222 00:19:01,366 --> 00:19:05,100 Once he got close but missed it by a little bit and didn't get it. 223 00:19:05,566 --> 00:19:07,600 So he was disappointed about that. 224 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,200 They might have made the scavenger hunt because they knew he liked them. 225 00:19:18,966 --> 00:19:23,733 The description of Mr. Wells in the bank was very calm. 226 00:19:24,133 --> 00:19:28,233 Actually stood on line for a second before he decided to go around 227 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:31,733 one of the customers in the bank to hand the teller a note. 228 00:19:32,233 --> 00:19:35,666 Actually reached into the basket to pull out a lollipop. 229 00:19:36,733 --> 00:19:40,133 Why would you feel comfortable enough and take a lollipop? 230 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:45,933 Why would you, as the witness described, walk out of the bank like Charlie Chaplin, 231 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,500 swinging the bag and the cane gun? 232 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,900 Why or how could an individual 233 00:19:52,966 --> 00:19:57,366 who knew they had a live device around their neck be so calm? 234 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:03,200 I didn't think that he was involved. I thought, he-- They... 235 00:20:03,266 --> 00:20:05,266 He might be easy to, um... 236 00:20:06,766 --> 00:20:08,400 uh, influence. 237 00:20:09,660 --> 00:20:12,800 I thought it'd be easy to grab him and put the collar bomb on. 238 00:20:20,833 --> 00:20:23,766 The call was made to the pizza delivery shop at 1:30. 239 00:20:25,866 --> 00:20:30,466 We determined that came from the Shell station not far from the delivery site. 240 00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:38,400 Mr. Tony Ditomo, the owner of the pizza shop, initially took the call. 241 00:20:39,266 --> 00:20:41,766 And he was talking to that person, 242 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:47,300 and he was having trouble understanding, so he handed the phone to Brian Wells, 243 00:20:47,366 --> 00:20:50,200 and Brian Wells wrote his own directions 244 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,400 to the tower where the pizzas were to be delivered. 245 00:20:55,866 --> 00:20:58,100 Could this dirt road be the fateful spot 246 00:20:58,166 --> 00:21:01,533 where Wells met the person or persons who would end his life? 247 00:21:02,633 --> 00:21:05,933 This secluded site is the last delivery spot for Wells. 248 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,300 Now the question is, was the man forced to rob the bank by someone else? 249 00:21:17,833 --> 00:21:21,266 We found and recovered, through the Pennsylvania State Police, 250 00:21:21,333 --> 00:21:25,400 who did a fantastic job in evidence recovery, tire impressions 251 00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:29,500 that indicated that Brian Wells' vehicle was at this site. 252 00:21:31,866 --> 00:21:33,733 We also had shoe impressions. 253 00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:38,666 Mr. Wells' shoe, his sneaker, that indicated that he was at this site. 254 00:21:39,330 --> 00:21:41,266 All right? And we had a scuff mark, 255 00:21:41,733 --> 00:21:45,000 uh, right in the, uh, this area right here 256 00:21:45,660 --> 00:21:49,330 that indicated that there was some sort of struggle that had ensued. 257 00:21:56,833 --> 00:22:01,433 A case of this size, you would think that somewhere in the pieces recovered 258 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:04,900 you'd have some evidence that could be used forensically. 259 00:22:05,633 --> 00:22:10,933 We took every step we could to develop DNA, 260 00:22:11,266 --> 00:22:15,400 fingerprints, any forensic evidence that we could use to compare, 261 00:22:15,833 --> 00:22:19,133 and we just didn't have much luck with that in this case. 262 00:22:33,833 --> 00:22:34,833 Good morning. 263 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:36,666 My name is Jean Heid. 264 00:22:38,633 --> 00:22:40,933 I'm one of Brian Wells' three sisters. 265 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,766 I first heard about the suffering and death of my brother, Brian, 266 00:22:50,330 --> 00:22:51,330 on the news. 267 00:22:52,633 --> 00:22:53,933 Brian was handcuffed. 268 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,966 The officers continued to point their guns at him, 269 00:22:58,533 --> 00:23:02,233 even though he was fully cooperating in their custody. 270 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,433 And why was no ambulance present to try to help 271 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,333 when he laid dying upon the ground, grasping for life? 272 00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:17,533 The decision was made to cut off Brian's head... 273 00:23:18,833 --> 00:23:20,500 to preserve the collar bomb. 274 00:23:21,766 --> 00:23:25,000 This beheading of Brian... 275 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:28,900 took from us the closure we sought 276 00:23:28,966 --> 00:23:32,660 by being able to view Brian at his funeral. 277 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:36,966 Tears streamed down Mom's face as she learned the news 278 00:23:37,330 --> 00:23:40,660 that Brian's body was not fit for open-casket viewing. 279 00:23:41,466 --> 00:23:44,533 The removed head could not be supported in position. 280 00:23:46,433 --> 00:23:49,233 More respect was shown for the destructive device 281 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:50,833 than for Brian's body. 282 00:23:56,233 --> 00:23:57,900 As a kindhearted listener, 283 00:23:58,866 --> 00:24:03,100 Brian touched our lives in so many beautiful ways 284 00:24:03,166 --> 00:24:06,000 by his humble and quiet presence, 285 00:24:06,566 --> 00:24:11,660 and his devoted, selfless care and service for our family. 286 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:19,633 We believe that what happened to Brian was monstrous. 287 00:24:21,366 --> 00:24:24,533 The absence of clarity and truth in the investigation 288 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,660 has been a horrendous ordeal for our entire family. 289 00:24:37,833 --> 00:24:41,933 Erie has its share, for a small town, of kind of bizarre events. 290 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,366 We've had a number of things happen. 291 00:24:44,433 --> 00:24:46,330 But there is nothing 292 00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:49,533 that captured the imagination of the public, 293 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,433 that raised so many questions, that was just so... 294 00:24:53,366 --> 00:24:55,933 sincerely bizarre as this case. 295 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,600 It's a bank robbery, but a scavenger hunt, a guy has a cane gun, and it was loaded. 296 00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:09,133 He had the Guess shirt on. You know, "Guess what this is." 297 00:25:10,866 --> 00:25:15,166 It took on this mythic proportion, 'cause it just kept getting weirder. 298 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,400 This is a Fox News alert. Breaking news tonight 299 00:25:20,466 --> 00:25:23,000 in the so-called Pizza Bomber mystery. 300 00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:25,900 There is a twist in a bizarre bank-robbery story 301 00:25:25,966 --> 00:25:27,433 in Erie, Pennsylvania. 302 00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:31,333 The captured bank robber had a bomb on him. Now he's dead. 303 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,733 And so was a coworker, who also died 304 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,700 under mysterious circumstances. 305 00:25:36,866 --> 00:25:40,133 The second incident occurred on Sunday, August 31st, 306 00:25:40,533 --> 00:25:43,966 when a coworker and friend of Wells, Robert Thomas Pinetti, 307 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,166 was discovered unresponsive by family members. 308 00:25:48,466 --> 00:25:51,800 As the story developed, and they learned who it was 309 00:25:51,866 --> 00:25:56,100 and his relationship with the pizza business and Mr. Wells-- 310 00:25:56,166 --> 00:25:58,900 So, when they got that, they pulled back. 311 00:25:58,966 --> 00:26:00,866 Again, a perimeter was set up. 312 00:26:01,366 --> 00:26:04,466 There was no signs of any pathologic condition he had, 313 00:26:04,533 --> 00:26:06,633 like a stroke or a heart attack... 314 00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:09,660 or anything along those lines. 315 00:26:09,633 --> 00:26:12,500 Similar scenario to Mr. Wells, he was... 316 00:26:12,933 --> 00:26:15,833 transported to our office and an autopsy was done. 317 00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:19,266 Officials hope an autopsy reveals the cause of that death 318 00:26:19,333 --> 00:26:23,400 and helps determine whether the strange fates of the two pizza workers 319 00:26:23,466 --> 00:26:24,933 are somehow connected. 320 00:26:28,660 --> 00:26:31,366 I was on the task force that we worked with the PSP. 321 00:26:31,433 --> 00:26:34,566 A lot of the FBI, a lot of the ATF. 322 00:26:34,633 --> 00:26:37,333 There were Erie city officers assigned to it. 323 00:26:39,666 --> 00:26:44,433 Well, Bob Pinetti was an important subject in the investigation, 324 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:47,633 because he changed his actions right after it occurred. 325 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,766 He got nervous. He was going around. 326 00:26:49,833 --> 00:26:53,733 We have interviews where he was looking for some type of protection 327 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,700 'cause he thought they were coming after him next. 328 00:26:57,733 --> 00:27:00,933 Initially, Mr. Pinetti was going 329 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,133 to be interviewed by investigators, and they had met 330 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,900 with him at the pizza shop. 331 00:27:06,866 --> 00:27:09,200 Mr. Pinetti was working a shift 332 00:27:09,266 --> 00:27:11,900 and asked if he could move his interview 333 00:27:11,966 --> 00:27:13,333 until Monday. 334 00:27:14,866 --> 00:27:16,500 Well, as it turned out, 335 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,266 Monday never came for investigators because... 336 00:27:20,866 --> 00:27:22,533 he died that Sunday evening. 337 00:27:23,866 --> 00:27:26,500 He did appear to have a drug issue. 338 00:27:27,660 --> 00:27:32,660 That's something that's not uncommon in the Erie area. It's a plague right now, 339 00:27:32,133 --> 00:27:36,366 with all the ODs, with heroin, the pills, and those types of things. 340 00:27:36,433 --> 00:27:40,800 And could it be that this added anxiety from this investigation--? 341 00:27:40,866 --> 00:27:44,330 His buddy just got a bomb strapped on him and blew up. 342 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:48,433 I get worked up, more drugs to take the edge off, and accidentally OD. 343 00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:50,133 Now you have 344 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,330 a second pizza deliveryman who has also died. 345 00:27:54,533 --> 00:27:58,660 Did he play a role in this? 346 00:27:58,133 --> 00:28:01,633 Did he help set Brian up to deliver that pizza on that day? 347 00:28:06,133 --> 00:28:07,800 The multi-agency task force 348 00:28:07,866 --> 00:28:10,866 investigating the robbery and the death of the robber 349 00:28:10,933 --> 00:28:13,233 is considering three scenarios. 350 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:17,533 One, that 46-year-old Brian Wells committed the robbery on his own. 351 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,660 But why would he use a live bomb? 352 00:28:20,933 --> 00:28:23,966 The second scenario, Wells was abducted by others. 353 00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:26,366 Told he had 20 minutes to rob the bank 354 00:28:26,433 --> 00:28:29,600 and get back, or the bomb they attached would go off. 355 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:34,766 Third, that Wells and fellow employee, 43-year-old Robert Pinetti, 356 00:28:34,833 --> 00:28:38,500 - planned the robbery together. - I did know that he would go 357 00:28:38,566 --> 00:28:41,600 with Pinetti to do some gambling. 358 00:28:41,666 --> 00:28:46,700 I figured, maybe he could have needed money enough to rob a bank. 359 00:28:46,766 --> 00:28:52,233 Robert was a very gentle fellow, and he wasn't out to hurt anybody. 360 00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:53,733 And he wouldn't do that. 361 00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:58,100 Pinetti, whose health is clearly failing, says her son is innocent. 362 00:28:58,166 --> 00:29:00,100 It makes me feel really bad. 363 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,700 Really bad, when you know that it's not true. You know? 364 00:29:06,366 --> 00:29:09,566 That's what hurts. He didn't have anything to do with it. 365 00:29:10,933 --> 00:29:14,600 As for Robert Pinetti, the coworker of Wells who was found dead, 366 00:29:14,666 --> 00:29:16,633 an autopsy has been completed. 367 00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:21,900 Preliminary results show, perhaps, either an accidental overdose or suicide. 368 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,100 Now we have two dead pizza delivery guys, and the city's feeling shocked. 369 00:29:29,166 --> 00:29:30,533 How could this happen? 370 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,833 You know, who's the mastermind? Because this made worldwide news. 371 00:29:35,333 --> 00:29:39,433 Was this a robbery gone wrong, or a sadistic public execution? 372 00:29:47,166 --> 00:29:50,100 We had a few investigative teams in operation. 373 00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:55,900 We knew that Mr. Wells frequented prostitutes. 374 00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:02,100 We had a prostitute team, due to the fact that Mr. Wells had 375 00:30:02,166 --> 00:30:05,660 the prostitutes' names in a notebook. 376 00:30:06,233 --> 00:30:11,433 We began to run out one potential suspect at the time that may have had 377 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:15,300 knowledge because he was the boyfriend of one of the prostitutes. 378 00:30:17,266 --> 00:30:21,666 He had a history of some military background with explosives, 379 00:30:21,733 --> 00:30:26,400 that was African-American, that had been working on a special project at work, 380 00:30:26,466 --> 00:30:29,900 utilizing the equipment, would shut the door to the room. 381 00:30:29,966 --> 00:30:32,566 We had information that looked interesting. 382 00:30:32,633 --> 00:30:36,933 And, again, you can't discount what Mr. Wells had said early, 383 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,633 though investigators felt, "It's not accurate." 384 00:30:41,233 --> 00:30:44,900 But we actually found no evidence to connect him to the case. 385 00:30:48,566 --> 00:30:53,366 We had a second team that we called the Mama Mia's Pizzaria team, 386 00:30:53,433 --> 00:30:56,400 to investigate one disgruntled former employee 387 00:30:57,233 --> 00:31:01,833 who had actually threatened, uh, the owner of the pizza shop, Mr. Ditomo. 388 00:31:02,433 --> 00:31:05,800 And we later determined that he had a good alibi 389 00:31:05,866 --> 00:31:10,200 and that it was not related to this case. 390 00:31:13,933 --> 00:31:17,500 We are hopeful that by showing a picture of the device... 391 00:31:18,533 --> 00:31:21,766 ...someone may have or may recognize... 392 00:31:22,766 --> 00:31:24,933 the instrument, the metal, 393 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,300 the locking material used to secure it 394 00:31:27,366 --> 00:31:31,133 - to the neck. - Members gave the public 395 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,633 its first look at the cane shotgun used in the robbery. For the first time, 396 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:40,466 those investigators admitted the gun was loaded and would have fired. 397 00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:42,466 It has been tested, 398 00:31:42,966 --> 00:31:44,800 and it does function properly. 399 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,566 It is constructed from wood and metal. 400 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,300 That's important. FBI profilers believe that whoever built the gun 401 00:31:54,366 --> 00:31:58,666 and the collar is a handyman competent with wood and metal. 402 00:31:58,733 --> 00:32:01,233 He probably collects or makes weapons, 403 00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:04,766 and may have other cane guns that he's shown to others. 404 00:32:05,633 --> 00:32:09,833 He is patient, they say, and deceptive and secretive. 405 00:32:10,633 --> 00:32:12,000 Being in control 406 00:32:12,660 --> 00:32:14,400 is very important for him. 407 00:32:15,566 --> 00:32:18,600 Through his words, attempts to tightly control 408 00:32:18,666 --> 00:32:22,866 the actions of Brian Wells, as well as law enforcement. 409 00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:27,766 My name is Jason Wick. 410 00:32:27,833 --> 00:32:31,166 Uh, I work for ATF. I've been with ATF for 25 years. 411 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,233 I had the opportunity to be a part of the evidence collection team 412 00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:37,300 at the World Trade Center bombing. 413 00:32:37,833 --> 00:32:41,633 Uh, and an evidence collection team on 9/11 in Shanksville, 414 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:43,833 where United Flight 93 crashed. 415 00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:45,900 Without a doubt, 416 00:32:45,966 --> 00:32:50,000 this case trumps all others as far as how bizarre it was. 417 00:32:51,766 --> 00:32:56,700 We had the device put back together. Problem was, we couldn't match any tools. 418 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,100 Again, as made very public by Ted Kaczynski in the Unabomber case, 419 00:33:01,166 --> 00:33:05,233 bomb makers throw their tools away. They try not to purchase materials. 420 00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:06,933 That's what happened here. 421 00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:11,660 It was going to be a long-term investigation, not short. 422 00:33:12,133 --> 00:33:13,333 Part of our role 423 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,000 as bomb technicians is to thoroughly go through the scene, 424 00:33:17,660 --> 00:33:21,766 and collect all the debris and determine what is part of the device and what isn't. 425 00:33:22,266 --> 00:33:26,200 In this case, we easily captured 90-some percent of the components. 426 00:33:29,233 --> 00:33:32,266 From all the components recovered at the scene, 427 00:33:32,333 --> 00:33:36,900 I was able to assemble what I believe is an accurate replica of that device. 428 00:33:39,166 --> 00:33:43,833 The neck cuff would have operated like a standard handcuff in that, when closed, 429 00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:45,766 it would ratchet and lock. 430 00:33:45,833 --> 00:33:49,600 The case and the collar itself would have taken 431 00:33:49,666 --> 00:33:53,200 somebody some time, probably on the order of a month 432 00:33:53,266 --> 00:33:56,133 in their spare time to assemble this. 433 00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,333 The first timer attached to the first bomb 434 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,533 was probably activated by the release of a cotter pin. 435 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,900 There's a second cotter pin on there. 436 00:34:06,966 --> 00:34:10,666 If that pin was pulled, it would've given Mr. Wells another hour. 437 00:34:12,333 --> 00:34:15,833 An extension is put on the handle and it merely swings around 438 00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:18,733 and closes the contact when it gets down to zero. 439 00:34:20,866 --> 00:34:24,100 The one thing that sticks out was all of the red herrings 440 00:34:24,166 --> 00:34:26,300 that were incorporated into the device. 441 00:34:26,366 --> 00:34:30,199 Um, that was, in my opinion, in the investigative team's opinion, 442 00:34:30,266 --> 00:34:33,666 designed to prevent the bomb squad from tampering with it. 443 00:34:34,133 --> 00:34:36,633 There were wires that didn't mean anything. 444 00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:40,000 There was a plastic cell phone that didn't mean anything. 445 00:34:40,433 --> 00:34:43,166 The device was fairly sophisticated, although, 446 00:34:43,233 --> 00:34:46,366 in the end, it was just two pipe bombs and two timers. 447 00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:49,100 Interesting thing about it was, 448 00:34:49,166 --> 00:34:51,866 the number of warning labels that were on it. 449 00:34:51,933 --> 00:34:56,233 And it almost mirrored the instructions that were given to Wells 450 00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:58,166 in that they were overly wordy. 451 00:34:58,633 --> 00:35:00,966 It was a lot of info that would have been distracting 452 00:35:01,330 --> 00:35:04,266 for somebody to take in as they're trying to figure it out. 453 00:35:04,333 --> 00:35:07,466 It alluded to a lot of different types of booby traps 454 00:35:07,533 --> 00:35:09,666 being activated by a cell phone, 455 00:35:09,733 --> 00:35:11,433 the wire being a booby trap. 456 00:35:12,330 --> 00:35:14,633 There were a lot of warnings, to that effect. 457 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,600 We're hoping to gain leads on where the componentry came from. 458 00:35:20,566 --> 00:35:24,200 We tried to determine where those items may have been purchased. 459 00:35:24,266 --> 00:35:27,633 We tried to ascertain tool marks, things of that nature. 460 00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:30,400 That was the biggest problem. We couldn't match anything. 461 00:35:33,366 --> 00:35:35,200 The back plate was scored, 462 00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:37,866 basically cut, I guess, with a cutting tool, 463 00:35:37,933 --> 00:35:39,500 to cause shrapnel effect. 464 00:35:39,566 --> 00:35:42,660 It was cut into a form of a checkerboard. 465 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,100 It didn't shrapnel, I believe, 466 00:35:46,166 --> 00:35:49,966 as the builder intended. It did fracture, but it didn't shrapnel. 467 00:35:50,330 --> 00:35:53,933 It didn't blow into pieces, meaning the scoring wasn't deep enough. 468 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,266 However, it did cause 469 00:35:55,866 --> 00:35:58,733 a severe wound in Mr. Wells's chest, an inch deep, 470 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,466 maybe 8-by-10 inches square, which ultimately killed him. 471 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,766 Task force members say the bomb that killed Wells 472 00:36:06,833 --> 00:36:10,533 was common, but that the collar was unique, with four key locks 473 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,466 and a tumbler lock. 474 00:36:12,533 --> 00:36:14,500 It had only one purpose: 475 00:36:14,566 --> 00:36:17,400 To hold a bomb around a human neck. 476 00:36:18,633 --> 00:36:21,366 Of the four keyholes, there were only two locks 477 00:36:21,433 --> 00:36:23,100 keeping the device locked. 478 00:36:23,166 --> 00:36:25,533 If he would've recovered two of the keys, 479 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,166 he could've unlocked it, but I don't believe 480 00:36:28,233 --> 00:36:32,733 he was ever going to find those keys. I believe he was meant to die that day. 481 00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:45,533 The scavenger hunt, that whole game playing, that whole: 482 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,100 "Let's control the situation. Let's send the police on a sideshow." 483 00:36:50,166 --> 00:36:53,766 Yeah, I thought the scavenger hunt was a red herring. 484 00:36:53,833 --> 00:36:54,966 It was a diversion. 485 00:36:56,433 --> 00:36:59,300 Investigators wanted to determine 486 00:36:59,366 --> 00:37:04,366 if we had time to trace the route that Wells was to actually go through. 487 00:37:04,433 --> 00:37:09,533 And we actually got in the vehicle, same time of day, same day of the week, 488 00:37:10,660 --> 00:37:11,933 same weather conditions, 489 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,533 and drove the route. 490 00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:17,466 Erie County is the smokestack 491 00:37:17,533 --> 00:37:19,500 on the corner of Pennsylvania. 492 00:37:19,566 --> 00:37:22,700 It gives Pennsylvania its access to the Great Lakes. 493 00:37:22,766 --> 00:37:26,966 Water on one side, New York State to the other, Ohio to the other side. 494 00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:30,233 Banks on upper Peach Tree are near the I-90 Interstate, 495 00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:33,266 where you can be in one of two different states in 20 minutes. 496 00:37:33,333 --> 00:37:37,433 The way to rob a bank in Erie County 497 00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:40,933 is to switch vehicles, rob it in one vehicle, switch vehicles, 498 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,433 get on the interstate, be in another state in 20 minutes, avoiding detection. 499 00:37:46,466 --> 00:37:49,933 Here were people that put this complex scavenger-hunt thing, 500 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,700 where you go around in this big circle, 501 00:37:52,766 --> 00:37:55,833 and go round and round in circles near the crime site. 502 00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,633 To whom does that make sense? Doesn't make sense to anyone. 503 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:05,766 It was determined that Brian Wells 504 00:38:05,833 --> 00:38:08,566 could've not finished the route, 505 00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:12,666 in time, before the detonation of that device. 506 00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:20,766 The FBI released parts of the letter, in hopes of getting a reaction 507 00:38:20,833 --> 00:38:25,400 from the public, hoping they recognize the handwriting or linguistic skills. 508 00:38:27,566 --> 00:38:30,333 Of course we tried to match the writing. 509 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,660 And I think, early on, it was fairly agreed upon that 510 00:38:34,133 --> 00:38:38,200 notes looked like they were typed and traced from a typed piece of paper. 511 00:38:38,266 --> 00:38:42,500 Look at the margins, the indentation. They're consistent with a typewriter. 512 00:38:42,566 --> 00:38:45,100 Matching handwriting was not going to happen. 513 00:38:45,166 --> 00:38:48,566 The best lead we had from the notes was indented writing. 514 00:38:48,633 --> 00:38:50,833 Lab workers lifted these images, 515 00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,566 pressed into instructions found in Wells' car, 516 00:38:53,633 --> 00:38:58,330 probably by the crime's mastermind writing over the notes on other paper. 517 00:38:59,233 --> 00:39:03,500 We had some phone numbers, and we had some writing that the lab discovered 518 00:39:03,566 --> 00:39:08,400 through their examination that, again, were pretty good leads, but led nowhere. 519 00:39:10,566 --> 00:39:13,866 Only 2 or 3 percent of bank robberies are done 520 00:39:13,933 --> 00:39:16,200 with any kind of explosive device. 521 00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:17,700 And of those, 522 00:39:17,766 --> 00:39:21,600 only a very small, less than 1 percent, is done with a live device. 523 00:39:24,766 --> 00:39:28,700 We have had instances where individuals, um... 524 00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:32,366 state that they do have an explosive device or a bomb. 525 00:39:32,433 --> 00:39:35,233 However, certainly, this is the first time 526 00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:38,700 that a device has actually, uh, exploded. 527 00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:43,433 I've never seen a device strapped around anybody's neck. 528 00:39:44,933 --> 00:39:48,933 We've heard of fake devices, people coming into banks, 529 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,966 or going into businesses with fake devices, saying, "I have a bomb. 530 00:39:53,330 --> 00:39:54,833 Please comply with my demands." 531 00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:57,900 Um, but never wrapped around somebody's neck. 532 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:03,933 The reason this case was elevated to FBI major case number 203, 533 00:40:04,333 --> 00:40:07,933 something like this had never happened in the history of the FBI 534 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,533 where a potential hostage is sent into the bank 535 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,500 with a device, ordered to rob the bank, and the device detonates, 536 00:40:18,566 --> 00:40:21,233 resulting in death. This had never happened. 537 00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:25,266 Somebody murdered Brian Wells that day. 538 00:40:25,766 --> 00:40:28,900 Whether he was involved or not, it's still a murder. 539 00:40:32,633 --> 00:40:36,000 FBI profilers from the Behavioral Analysis Unit say 540 00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:39,666 the plan's mastermind, a person they call "Collar Bomber," 541 00:40:39,733 --> 00:40:42,733 may have had Wells' death in mind all along. 542 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,166 The end result ended in the murder and death of Brian Wells, 543 00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:50,166 and, uh, again, according to BAU, um... 544 00:40:50,966 --> 00:40:55,433 that is probably, in their opinion, one of the motives in the case. 545 00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:59,533 Also released, more details about Collar Bomber from the profilers, 546 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,433 saying that the person involved is frugal, a pack rat who might save scrap metal, 547 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:08,200 is mechanically inclined, could hide a violent nature... 548 00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:13,400 There was a lot of tips coming in, but nothing that was a smoking gun. 549 00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:18,000 And then it fizzled out. 550 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,233 This case did not have a lot of forensic evidence. 551 00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:29,666 This case was gonna involve somebody spilling a secret, quite honestly. 552 00:41:29,733 --> 00:41:32,300 It was gonna involve somebody coming out 553 00:41:32,366 --> 00:41:35,900 and saying, "I have some information that can help you." 554 00:41:47,660 --> 00:41:50,200 The second thing to know about Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong, 555 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,633 she's smart. 556 00:41:52,666 --> 00:41:54,333 But she's also mentally ill. 557 00:41:56,660 --> 00:41:59,400 When Marge was 23, she took herself to see a therapist 558 00:41:59,466 --> 00:42:01,133 because she was scared. 559 00:42:01,766 --> 00:42:03,433 Something was wrong with her mind. 560 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,533 She told the doctor 561 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,566 she was most sad about her inability to have close, gratifying relationships. 562 00:42:12,666 --> 00:42:16,633 Over the years, Marjorie's been seen by numerous experts 563 00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:18,633 who diagnosed several conditions: 564 00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:20,660 Bipolar. 565 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,200 Mania. 566 00:42:22,266 --> 00:42:23,500 Pressured speech. 567 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:29,133 One psychiatrist suggested Marjorie wasn't mentally ill. 568 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,330 She just suffered from narcissism and a severe personality disorder. 569 00:42:34,166 --> 00:42:36,933 Regardless, Marjorie couldn't hold down a job. 570 00:42:37,366 --> 00:42:40,800 She struggled with daily life, started to let herself go. 571 00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:45,733 In one of her therapy sessions, she sighed and told the doctor: 572 00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:48,633 "I used to be the prettiest girl in town." 573 00:42:50,933 --> 00:42:53,766 The third thing you need to know about Marjorie: 574 00:42:55,660 --> 00:42:58,466 Most of the men in her life don't seem to last very long. 575 00:43:00,666 --> 00:43:03,633 For example, the one time she was briefly married, 576 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,133 her husband, Richard Armstrong, 577 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,533 died after he fell and hit his head on their coffee table. 578 00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:15,433 Marge sued the hospital for negligence and won a $175,000 settlement. 579 00:43:16,633 --> 00:43:21,660 Before her husband was buried, Marge asked for a piece of his leg bone, 580 00:43:21,566 --> 00:43:24,566 in case she might be able to clone him in the future. 581 00:43:25,330 --> 00:43:27,633 And then there are the other dead boyfriends. 582 00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:29,900 One hung himself after she moved out. 583 00:43:30,366 --> 00:43:34,133 There are at least five men in her life 584 00:43:34,733 --> 00:43:39,200 that died prematurely of either strange circumstances 585 00:43:39,266 --> 00:43:41,433 or by outright violence. 586 00:43:45,566 --> 00:43:47,733 State Police, what's your emergency? 587 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:53,266 At 8645 Peach Street, in the garage, there is a frozen body, 588 00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:58,233 it's in the freezer. There's a woman there you might wanna pick up and question. 589 00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:01,100 - 8645 Peach Street? - Yes. 590 00:44:01,166 --> 00:44:03,000 How do you know that, sir? 591 00:44:03,466 --> 00:44:05,333 - Trust me. I know. - Who are you? 592 00:44:06,266 --> 00:44:09,330 - I'm the guy who lives there. - What is your name, sir? 593 00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:11,100 Bill... Rothstein... 594 00:44:18,330 --> 00:44:21,366 - And what is her name? - Marjorie... Diehl. 595 00:44:21,433 --> 00:44:22,866 D-I-E-H-L. 596 00:44:22,933 --> 00:44:26,133 - Marjorie Diehl is at that residence now? - Yes. 597 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,660 Who is she to you, sir? 598 00:44:28,133 --> 00:44:31,700 Uh... I'll give you guys my story later on. 599 00:44:32,433 --> 00:44:34,800 There's a frozen body in the freezer? 600 00:44:34,866 --> 00:44:36,566 In the garage, that is correct. 601 00:44:36,633 --> 00:44:38,933 Do you know who the person is in the freezer? 602 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:39,933 Uh... 603 00:44:40,305 --> 00:44:46,860 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org 604 00:44:47,305 --> 00:44:53,359 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org 50970

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