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Seriously, Martin, you
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really think that's funny?
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So, uh, why am I here?
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We need your expertise.
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My parents were very supportive though.
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My parents are both very supportive.
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Let me not throw them under the bus,
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but they were like,
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"What are you doing?"
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They were worried.
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They were like, "You're so
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smart, you could be a lawyer."
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Ironically, I thought,
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because you're just talking about school,
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I thought I was gonna go to Yale.
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That's not true.
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I didn't think.
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Everyone around me thought
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that I was gonna go
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to Yale to be a lawyer.
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Okay.
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So when I was in high school,
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I was like one of those, I was like,
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Like, one of those kids that like, I had
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such an appetite for it.
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Like, I just like had an appetite for
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political science, for
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government, for world history,
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like for all of those things.
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So I would, I would stay up until three
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or four in the morning
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and go to school at seven
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writing essays and like perfecting it and
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making sure it was like
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the right, this sounds
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so nerdy, but like the right like syntax,
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the right structure, the right theory.
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Like I had a very strong work ethic.
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Okay.
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And so my vice principal, he sat me down.
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I think his name was Mr. Bear.
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And he was like, "You
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should consider going to Yale."
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And I was just like, I laughed.
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I laughed at his face
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because I was just like, "Me?
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Going to Yale?"
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I would never live, first of all, I would
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never live in New Haven, Connecticut.
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Yep.
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I would go to colds.
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What would I do there?
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There's no Cuban coffee, no emaduros, no
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ema comida that I would
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be comfortable to eat.
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And then also again,
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did I say it was cold?
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And then like, they would
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never accept someone like me.
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It was just like, I had never, it didn't
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feel so connected with
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the rest of the country
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as like, for instance, New York does.
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New York, it feels like
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everything is possible here.
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I don't know.
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No, I-
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It feels like everything is
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possible if you work hard here.
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And that's not, I don't know, and that
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could be my own thing
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with Miami, but Miami feels
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a lot more me being a child of immigrants
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more than like the following generation.
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My father had very much
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the, "You need to survive."
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I came from poverty
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and we need to survive.
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And I just never thought I'd go to a
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school like that, ironically.
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Do you think that that preparation in
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college that it helped
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you for your acting career?
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I think that, I think for a long time, I
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wanted to go to a school
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like that to be seen as
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legitimate and to be seen as valuable.
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I think that when I came to New York at
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such a young age and I didn't
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have any family connections,
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I had no resources, I had nothing to find
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a way for me to get in the business.
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I was like, I auditioned for these
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Broadway plays and it'd
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be like, "Well, what school
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did you go to?"
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And I'd be like, "I'm
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learning from life."
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And they're like,
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"That's not good enough.
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What school did you go to?"
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And so it became a thing where there was
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a play actually, and
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it was about Colombian
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women.
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And it was about some stuff that my own
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family experienced and I
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was like, "I can do this
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play."
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There's no reason, no one
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can do this play as good as me.
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I was like, "I can do this play."
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And everyone who had
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got in was from Juilliard.
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And it was that experience that I was
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just like, "I need to go to school.
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I need to go to an actual drama."
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Because I only did
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conservatory at that point.
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So I studied in London at the London
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Academy of Music and
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Germanic Arts and I did classical
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text there.
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And then I studied in every conservatory
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in New York City and
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still people would be like,
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"Well, what school did you go to?"
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And so it became a point where when Yale
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came into the picture,
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it was what felt like for
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me for people to take me as legitimate.
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I was like, "I have to
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go to a school like this."
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And then I don't know.
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In some way, I think the school needed me
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more than I needed the school.
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How so?
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Well, because they're really changing.
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They're rapidly changing.
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But you have to imagine
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that these are institutions.
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And I think a lot of people of color and
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maybe women of color
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experiences too, when you go
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to an institution like that, that is so
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embedded into the United
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States, they didn't have,
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when I was there, it was still better
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than what it was for
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other people, but they never
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had like...
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Martinezes.
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They didn't have like Martinezes really.
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They didn't have like plays that they
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understood could be for us.
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And then speech was an interesting thing
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because by the end of my
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time at school, I couldn't
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recall my own voice.
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I didn't know how my own voice sounded at
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that point because I
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had so much classical
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training to speak a standard speech, like
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American standard speech.
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And so it's an interesting experience,
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but in some ways, I feel
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like my biggest lessons
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is when I came out of school.
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Like when I think about what I learned at
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school, it's like what
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happened after I came
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out.
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Let's talk a little bit about after
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school, what was your
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first role right after school?
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My first role was a nun.
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I played...
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Is that right?
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I played a nun in a prodigal son and so
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funny because I also
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grew up really religious.
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I had played someone who spoke in tongues
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at school and everyone
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loved it and they were
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like, "What is...
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You're crazy.
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How could you do that?"
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But I grew up in churches
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in Miami where they did that.
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And when I would go to Columbia over the
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summer, I would be going to churches.
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My dad had cousins who were
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very involved in the church.
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So it was like Monday,
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Wednesday, Sunday going to church.
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So the first role I played was a nun who
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could speak Aramaic in this...
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It was kind of like a scary episode.
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And that was my
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biggest paycheck I ever got.
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I remember.
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It was a guest star.
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I was like, "Oh my God,
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it's my biggest paycheck.
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I'm going to be okay."
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And it was three months after I
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graduated, which was 2020.
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So imagine everything shut down.
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We all think we don't
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know what's going to happen.
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It was a really great time to enter the
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workforce because nothing was happening.
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And that was my first job right out,
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right three months in.
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Who and how?
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Was anybody that you knew, your audition
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for it, how did you get that opportunity?
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I did a self-take because there were no
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in-person auditions anymore by 2020.
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So I did an in-person tape and I remember
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I was working at
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restaurants and I was very
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tired because also, mind you, the
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weirdest experience for
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me was that when I came out
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of school, I was working so much.
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Like I was getting four
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hours of sleep for three years.
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That when nothing was happening when I
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came out, I was like...
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It felt like I was in a treadmill and I
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was sprinting and
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then suddenly it stopped.
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And I was like, it was very freaky to me.
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So I had all this time and then I was
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like, I have to work.
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Now I lost health insurance from school.
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I don't know what to do.
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And so I was working a lot and I remember
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I sent in a self-tape
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in the midst of like
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going to a work shift and they called me
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like the following one
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and they were like, "You
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booked it."
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And I was with the Colombian director.
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Colombian director.
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Antonio Negrete, who's doing
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"Lincoln Lawyer" right now.
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Colombian director.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah, I love that show.
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So do you remember your...
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How did you get that
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opportunity with Grisela?
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Grisela?
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Yeah.
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So my very first audition out of school,
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the casting director,
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Rachel Tenner, I just signed
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with my managers and they sent me my very
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first audition and it was to play kind of
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like a 70 year old woman in
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a project called "The Maid."
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And I, being...
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I don't know.
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I don't know what the word is.
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Like being spicy, being rebellious, being
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like very protective
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of like what I try to
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represent for Latinas.
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I was like, "I'm not going to be in
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anything called The Maid."
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I was just like, "That is not why I went
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through all of this time at school."
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And the person I was with at the time,
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they were like, "You
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need to relax and just read
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it.
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Just like read the thing.
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Like you can't just say no.
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Like you have to actually sit down and
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breathe and read it."
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And I was just like, "Okay, okay."
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So then I read it and it was about...
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It was based off the book "The Maid" that
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was like a best seller
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in the New York Times
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and it was not about anything that I
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thought it was going to be.
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And then I was like, "How am I going to
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play a 70 year old woman
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who's the owner of a cleaning
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service?"
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And I was like, "Fine.
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I'm going to do it."
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And so like I prepped for it.
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I remember getting like a cup of noodles
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and like thinking of
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all the experiences I had
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growing up in Miami, seeing like so many
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women who had to do that to survive.
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And I was just like thinking of women
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that I grew up with
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that it reminded me of.
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And then I sent it in and the casting
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director was like, "I like her.
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I'm going to keep my eye out for you
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because now I know I'm
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going to keep my eye out.
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Like I know something."
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And I didn't understand it.
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And I was just like, "Okay."
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And they were like,
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"She really likes you.
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Like my manager's."
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And I was like, "Okay."
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And a year after that, Griselda, they
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were casting for
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Griselda for a woman from Miami
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who becomes the first or one of the first
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homicide detectives ever in Miami.
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And I remember reading it and I was just
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like, "I think I could do this."
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And I was like, "I'm pretty sure like I
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kind of understand what that is like
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being underestimated
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all the time."
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I think I understand this woman.
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I had sent in a tape with someone over
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Zoom and then I didn't hear anything.
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And then I was just
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like, I kind of gave it up.
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And then three months later, they were
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like, "We rewrote the whole scripts.
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We want you to audition
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for it again, please."
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I was like, "Okay."
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And I didn't know that they were looking
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all over the world for this part.
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And the casting director, Rachel Tenner,
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was like, "You guys
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aren't finding her because
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this is your girl."
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And like fought for me.
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And then the director saw me, Andres
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Báis, and was like, "Yes."
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But he wasn't yes at
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first, to be fair, to Andy.
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He was unsure.
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And then I was...
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To end the story of how I got the role,
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when I graduated from
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school and I said there was
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nothing, I started going online and
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looking for anything I could
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be a part of, community-wise.
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And so I got into this
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fellowship by Lena Waithe.
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She's an amazing
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executive producer, writer.
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She won an Emmy for the Master of None.
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And she was making an inaugural, first
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year, inaugural,
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basically collective of the 10
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best screen actors of color, 10 best
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writers of color, three, no, five
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executive producers.
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And she wanted them all to be from
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marginalized communities,
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but the best of the country.
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And I had an audition for that.
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I got in.
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And at the time that they sent me in that
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second tape for
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"Gereselda," we were heading
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out to LA to do a showcase.
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So when Andy was like, "I like her, but I
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don't know," I said
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to my team, I was like,
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"You tell Andy that if he wants to know
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him right for the
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part, I'm going to be in LA
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next week and he
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should meet me in person."
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And they were like, "Well, no."
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I was like, "No, you tell him if you want
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to know, if he really
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wants to get a sense
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of me, not none of this computer,
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virtual, you don't
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get a sense of anybody.
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So if you really want to get a sense of
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what I can bring to the
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table, tell him to meet
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me in person.
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I'm flying out to LA next week."
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And Monday came around,
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I didn't hear anything.
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Tuesday came around, I
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didn't hear anything.
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Wednesday came around,
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I didn't hear anything.
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I was leaving Sunday morning.
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Thursday came around, I was like, "If I
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don't hear by tonight, I didn't get it."
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Like it's over.
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It's left me.
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And then I think Thursday night, they
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were like, "What time is she leaving?"
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And it's like,
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"Sunday morning, what time?
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11 a.m., he'll meet you at 8."
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And I was like, "What?"
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And I met him at 8 a.m. on a Sunday, and
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we talked for like an
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hour and a half, and
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I like left and I was
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like, "I think I got it."
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That was it.
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I think I got that part.
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Yeah, but we had a
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really good conversation.
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It was beautiful.
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We had a very...
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We talked about his life, and we talked
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about how it felt like
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to try to make art in what
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we do.
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Just like this, we just talked.
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I wasn't trying to
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convince him of anything.
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I wasn't trying to prove anything.
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I was just like, "If it's yours, it's
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yours, and if he meets
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me, he'll know it's mine."
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The culture have anything to
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do with you getting the part?
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You think in the conversation?
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Yeah, I think...
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I don't know how much
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it had to do with it.
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I think he appreciated that I was from
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Miami, so I
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understood the way we navigate.
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So I think he appreciated that.
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I think he also appreciated that because
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I'm Colombian, I think
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he appreciated that too.
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I think what he was
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really looking for is like...
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June is someone very...
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She's a real-life person, and she's
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someone that has a lot of
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tenacity, and she's someone...
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What's interesting about her is she's
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mixed, and she's
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Cuban-American, and she speaks Spanish,
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but she wasn't like...
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That was a detriment to her at that time.
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All of the cops at the time were all
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white men, and they were
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like, "You don't know anything."
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It was the thing that she was being
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criticized about, her being
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a Latina, her being a woman
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that were her biggest strengths.
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He was looking for someone that...
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He said that could very...
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In a very raw way bring that, and you
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can't really act that.
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You either have it or you don't, I think.
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There's a piece when your character says,
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"You guys are overstating
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the fact that she's a woman."
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It was like...
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You're underestimating this.
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You're underestimating.
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I love that scene.
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Talk to me a little
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bit about that whole...
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Shane is that?
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Yeah.
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Shane was that again.
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I think that there was a conversation
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about the fact that
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everyone was just talking about
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the fact that...
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Is this for the group of men in the room?
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Yes.
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Was it in the...
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There was a board, and then
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the guys are at the table?
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Exactly.
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That same scene.
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That scene, actually funny enough, that
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scene is one of my more
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interesting scenes because
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what was happening in that moment...
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We had guests.
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Oh, we don't have guests.
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I'm sorry.
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There's no coffee here, I guess.
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That scene, I was heading to do my Yale
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graduation the following day.
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Okay.
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And I had read the scripts so much that
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when we were going to
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film that scene and they
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gave me my outfit, I was
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like, "This is the wrong day.
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This happened two days before.
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This is happening on this day, and this
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just happened, and this
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just happened, and it should
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be a different time of day."
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And everything was set up.
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If you've ever been to set...
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It was all set up, all the lights.
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We have everything, the location.
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And then I go to Andy, and I'm walking,
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and I'm like, "Andy, this isn't right.
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This is a time like this.
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This happens, and this
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happens, and we're not there."
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And Andy was like, took me in, and he was
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just like, "You're right."
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And we had to go to
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the Netflix executives.
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We had to wait for two to three hours to
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figure out what was
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missed because they missed
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the time of day for that scene, and they
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missed where it happened
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in the script because there
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were rewrites.
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And so three to four hours talking over
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with the executives, and
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then our AD is like, "It's
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okay.
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We'll get you on next Tuesday."
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And I was like, "I
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can't come next Tuesday."
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And they're like, "What do you need?"
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And it's like all these
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people, like 100 people in the room.
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And I was like, "I'm
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graduating on Tuesday."
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And they were like, "What?"
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And we're like, "What do you mean you're
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graduating on Tuesday?"
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I was like, "I'm
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graduating from school on Tuesday."
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And it's like older guys, and they're
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like, "What are you talking about?
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You're graduating?
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We're on set.
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You are filming a movie, basically."
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And I was like,
560
00:19:41,722 --> 00:19:43,765
"Yeah, I already got this.
561
00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:44,558
I'm sorry.
562
00:19:45,058 --> 00:19:46,476
I need to go to my graduation."
563
00:19:47,561 --> 00:19:49,354
And they were like, "Fine.
564
00:19:49,646 --> 00:19:51,148
Then we have to do the scene tonight."
565
00:19:51,732 --> 00:19:55,736
And then we did that scene at two or
566
00:19:55,736 --> 00:19:56,486
three in the morning.
567
00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:01,366
And when I was walking down, I was
568
00:20:01,366 --> 00:20:02,326
walking down with the
569
00:20:02,326 --> 00:20:03,493
changed outfit and everything,
570
00:20:03,827 --> 00:20:04,953
and there's these long
571
00:20:04,953 --> 00:20:06,830
hallways where we were filming.
572
00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:08,999
And as I was walking down, people were
573
00:20:08,999 --> 00:20:10,500
standing to the sides,
574
00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:13,503
and they were all nodding at
575
00:20:13,545 --> 00:20:14,379
me like, "Good job.
576
00:20:14,755 --> 00:20:15,255
Good job.
577
00:20:15,255 --> 00:20:15,923
Good job.
578
00:20:15,923 --> 00:20:16,465
Good job.
579
00:20:16,465 --> 00:20:16,882
Good job."
580
00:20:17,090 --> 00:20:19,968
Which is what was happening for June by
581
00:20:19,968 --> 00:20:21,553
the time that we were
582
00:20:21,553 --> 00:20:22,804
filming by that episode.
583
00:20:23,889 --> 00:20:26,058
And it was the weirdest experience,
584
00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:27,184
because it felt like our
585
00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:28,101
lives just went like...
586
00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:30,854
Because I caught something that no one
587
00:20:30,854 --> 00:20:33,482
else caught, which is what June caught.
588
00:20:34,691 --> 00:20:37,027
And it was just these looks that people
589
00:20:37,027 --> 00:20:38,904
were giving, nodding,
590
00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:42,282
that I did it for something.
591
00:20:42,741 --> 00:20:44,826
I was going to ask you, in your future,
592
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:45,994
do you see yourself
593
00:20:45,994 --> 00:20:47,746
doing more than acting?
594
00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:48,789
Yeah.
595
00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:49,539
I think so.
596
00:20:49,915 --> 00:20:50,123
Yeah.
597
00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:52,960
It was that type of detail, eye to
598
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,378
detail, preparing,
599
00:20:54,962 --> 00:20:56,713
catching that when nobody else
600
00:20:56,713 --> 00:20:57,381
caught it.
601
00:20:58,507 --> 00:21:00,801
That's probably me being a detective.
602
00:21:02,761 --> 00:21:05,639
The eye to detail, I would say the thing
603
00:21:05,639 --> 00:21:07,099
that matters most to me,
604
00:21:07,432 --> 00:21:08,266
my dad always said this
605
00:21:08,308 --> 00:21:09,851
thing, if you're going to do something,
606
00:21:10,477 --> 00:21:11,812
do it with excellence.
607
00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:14,481
Don't just do it.
608
00:21:15,732 --> 00:21:18,902
You were given the opportunity to do
609
00:21:18,902 --> 00:21:20,529
something, so do it well.
610
00:21:21,321 --> 00:21:21,989
If I would...
611
00:21:23,365 --> 00:21:24,491
It would be so basic.
612
00:21:24,741 --> 00:21:27,077
If I didn't wash the dishes well, he's
613
00:21:27,077 --> 00:21:28,120
like, "You didn't do that well.
614
00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:30,205
Do it again."
615
00:21:31,748 --> 00:21:33,959
And so I would rewash the dishes.
616
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,336
And then laundry, you
617
00:21:36,336 --> 00:21:37,546
didn't fold that well.
618
00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:38,880
Fold it well.
619
00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:41,550
And I would refold the laundry.
620
00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:43,427
And I think that kind of...
621
00:21:45,554 --> 00:21:45,846
Tough love?
622
00:21:46,722 --> 00:21:47,931
I don't know if it's tough love.
623
00:21:47,931 --> 00:21:49,099
I don't think it's tough love.
624
00:21:49,725 --> 00:21:50,350
I think it's...
625
00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:55,439
For me, even when I think of projects I
626
00:21:55,439 --> 00:21:57,149
want to be, I'm a part
627
00:21:57,149 --> 00:21:58,358
of, and then I will be a
628
00:21:58,358 --> 00:22:01,361
part of, people are taking the time out
629
00:22:01,361 --> 00:22:02,779
of their day to watch
630
00:22:02,779 --> 00:22:04,239
something, to be moved
631
00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:07,451
by something, to spend their time.
632
00:22:07,451 --> 00:22:11,121
And time is a non-renewable resource.
633
00:22:11,455 --> 00:22:12,289
You never get it back.
634
00:22:13,123 --> 00:22:15,125
So if someone's going to take the time to
635
00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:16,501
watch me in a play, or
636
00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:17,544
take the time to watch
637
00:22:17,544 --> 00:22:19,129
me in something, then I
638
00:22:19,129 --> 00:22:20,172
don't want to waste their time.
639
00:22:20,881 --> 00:22:22,215
They're never going to get that back.
640
00:22:22,632 --> 00:22:23,467
So do it well.
641
00:22:24,676 --> 00:22:29,347
And I feel like it's a respect for
642
00:22:29,347 --> 00:22:31,391
people's time, for their
643
00:22:31,391 --> 00:22:32,642
money, for their attention.
644
00:22:32,934 --> 00:22:34,436
I feel like we're living in an attention
645
00:22:34,436 --> 00:22:38,648
economy, where everyone is trying to grab
646
00:22:38,815 --> 00:22:39,191
it.
647
00:22:39,649 --> 00:22:41,735
But I think also what we've learned along
648
00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:45,238
the way is if we like
649
00:22:45,238 --> 00:22:47,282
things that are interesting
650
00:22:47,282 --> 00:22:51,286
and unique and real, that's
651
00:22:51,286 --> 00:22:52,370
so much of what we're seeing.
652
00:22:53,497 --> 00:22:55,415
And it doesn't have to even be...
653
00:22:55,957 --> 00:22:58,627
And then it's removing the idea of it
654
00:22:58,627 --> 00:22:59,419
having to be perfect.
655
00:22:59,669 --> 00:23:02,130
It doesn't have to be perfect, but it
656
00:23:02,130 --> 00:23:05,717
should be done with the
657
00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:12,307
utmost integrity and excellence
658
00:23:12,307 --> 00:23:13,433
that you can bring to it.
659
00:23:13,934 --> 00:23:15,685
I am with you 100%.
660
00:23:15,977 --> 00:23:18,021
I think your father, by
661
00:23:18,021 --> 00:23:19,064
the way, I want to say hello.
662
00:23:19,064 --> 00:23:20,190
He actually said hello to
663
00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:23,235
me in a prequel to this.
664
00:23:23,527 --> 00:23:24,111
Yeah, he did.
665
00:23:24,111 --> 00:23:24,486
He did.
666
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,613
And I like the fact that he
667
00:23:26,613 --> 00:23:28,031
said he liked to "un ching."
668
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:28,824
He did.
669
00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:30,117
"Un ching."
670
00:23:30,325 --> 00:23:31,451
He told me that.
671
00:23:32,452 --> 00:23:33,703
And "salulu, salulu."
672
00:23:35,288 --> 00:23:36,081
Let's talk about now.
673
00:23:37,666 --> 00:23:40,961
So you are working like crazy now.
674
00:23:40,961 --> 00:23:42,254
Talk to us about your show.
675
00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:43,672
Okay.
676
00:23:43,672 --> 00:23:46,299
So now I'm on SVU, Law & Order SVU.
677
00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:49,928
And that, speaking of, is
678
00:23:49,928 --> 00:23:52,514
a show that's done so well.
679
00:23:52,806 --> 00:23:54,432
It's the longest running show on TV.
680
00:23:55,392 --> 00:23:58,436
We're entering our 26th season, or we are
681
00:23:58,436 --> 00:24:00,397
at our 26th season right now.
682
00:24:00,981 --> 00:24:05,902
And it's a show that also speaks a lot
683
00:24:05,902 --> 00:24:07,988
to, I believe, powerful women.
684
00:24:08,697 --> 00:24:10,699
We have someone like Mariska Hargitay,
685
00:24:11,032 --> 00:24:12,075
who's been leading that
686
00:24:12,075 --> 00:24:13,118
show from the beginning.
687
00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:16,746
And she's someone who is a survivor and
688
00:24:16,746 --> 00:24:18,498
someone who's fighting
689
00:24:18,498 --> 00:24:20,292
for people who are typically
690
00:24:20,458 --> 00:24:22,294
never heard, for their stories to be
691
00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:23,378
heard, for them to get
692
00:24:23,378 --> 00:24:26,214
healing, for them to see that
693
00:24:26,214 --> 00:24:27,549
there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
694
00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:31,553
And she's also someone, speaking of as
695
00:24:31,553 --> 00:24:32,804
like a number one, who
696
00:24:32,804 --> 00:24:34,931
does things very with like,
697
00:24:35,891 --> 00:24:36,516
she's like, "Stop,
698
00:24:36,516 --> 00:24:37,225
we're going to do it again."
699
00:24:37,601 --> 00:24:39,769
That wasn't good enough.
700
00:24:40,061 --> 00:24:41,813
The show has a lot of meaning for me
701
00:24:41,813 --> 00:24:44,900
because also when I came
702
00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:46,776
in for the show, I think
703
00:24:46,818 --> 00:24:50,155
they had seen Griselda and they were
704
00:24:50,155 --> 00:24:51,114
like, "We want to see her.
705
00:24:51,823 --> 00:24:52,991
We're interested in her as well."
706
00:24:53,742 --> 00:24:55,869
And when I had conversations with the
707
00:24:55,869 --> 00:24:58,705
writers, I wanted to also
708
00:24:58,705 --> 00:25:00,498
still defy stereotypes in
709
00:25:00,498 --> 00:25:00,957
some way.
710
00:25:00,957 --> 00:25:04,336
And I wanted to be, she just
711
00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:05,837
happens to be Latina, right?
712
00:25:06,421 --> 00:25:07,505
I feel like white people
713
00:25:07,505 --> 00:25:08,423
are given that privilege.
714
00:25:09,466 --> 00:25:10,133
They're just people.
715
00:25:10,717 --> 00:25:10,926
Exactly.
716
00:25:11,301 --> 00:25:13,136
And what they do and what they think and
717
00:25:13,136 --> 00:25:14,888
how they view the
718
00:25:14,888 --> 00:25:16,681
world, that is what we look
719
00:25:16,681 --> 00:25:18,225
at in terms of their humanity.
720
00:25:18,225 --> 00:25:20,769
We don't look at their cultural ethnicity
721
00:25:20,769 --> 00:25:22,145
or race or anything.
722
00:25:22,562 --> 00:25:23,772
They just happen to be people.
723
00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:25,815
I feel like I've been
724
00:25:25,815 --> 00:25:26,608
given that with Kate.
725
00:25:27,901 --> 00:25:32,864
Kate is someone whose father, Eri Silva,
726
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,076
is a proud Latino from
727
00:25:36,076 --> 00:25:38,370
New York and a commissioner,
728
00:25:38,745 --> 00:25:40,080
so like in a position of power.
729
00:25:40,413 --> 00:25:43,208
But she's coming from a lineage of like,
730
00:25:43,458 --> 00:25:44,834
"I need to step up to that.
731
00:25:44,876 --> 00:25:45,919
I don't want people to think
732
00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:47,295
like I got anything for free."
733
00:25:48,129 --> 00:25:50,757
And she's also badass and she's fierce.
734
00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:56,221
And I'm excited for her story to come out
735
00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:57,013
where people really
736
00:25:57,013 --> 00:25:58,473
get to know who she is
737
00:25:59,015 --> 00:26:00,809
because there's a lot
738
00:26:00,809 --> 00:26:02,018
more to come with her.
739
00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:03,436
It's just like kind of...
740
00:26:05,146 --> 00:26:06,690
I feel like so much of it when you have
741
00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:07,941
roles like that is like
742
00:26:07,941 --> 00:26:09,067
you're giving the little
743
00:26:09,067 --> 00:26:11,736
breadcrumbs until you can
744
00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:12,988
have the breaking point.
745
00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:14,864
I'm all about the breaking point.
746
00:26:15,532 --> 00:26:18,076
Were you nervous when you first got to
747
00:26:18,076 --> 00:26:18,785
the setting you were in
748
00:26:18,785 --> 00:26:19,744
front of other people?
749
00:26:20,495 --> 00:26:22,914
I mean, yeah, I'd be lying if I wasn't.
750
00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:25,542
I mean, I'm meeting Marish
751
00:26:25,542 --> 00:26:26,960
Gohargade for the first time.
752
00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:28,753
Iced Tea, who's like amazing.
753
00:26:29,212 --> 00:26:31,006
I mean, Iced Tea, shout outs to Iced.
754
00:26:31,006 --> 00:26:32,465
I'm meeting so many people and the first
755
00:26:32,465 --> 00:26:33,466
time I met them, to be
756
00:26:33,466 --> 00:26:34,384
fair, I had to do a screen
757
00:26:34,384 --> 00:26:34,634
test.
758
00:26:35,552 --> 00:26:39,848
So I'm coming in from LA and I was in the
759
00:26:39,848 --> 00:26:40,932
running for other projects.
760
00:26:40,974 --> 00:26:42,559
So I was just like, "Well, I don't know
761
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:43,101
what's going to happen
762
00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:44,019
with my life right now.
763
00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:45,145
I don't know why I'm here.
764
00:26:45,603 --> 00:26:47,272
I'm entering a room I'm not sure of."
765
00:26:47,272 --> 00:26:47,981
And they were like, "No,
766
00:26:47,981 --> 00:26:48,815
you need to make a right."
767
00:26:49,107 --> 00:26:50,317
And then I'd like make a right and
768
00:26:50,317 --> 00:26:51,359
they're like, "No, but go this way."
769
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,485
And I was like, "So lost."
770
00:26:53,028 --> 00:26:54,571
I was like, "Where am I going?
771
00:26:54,571 --> 00:26:56,281
You guys are like, you guys just know
772
00:26:56,281 --> 00:26:57,240
where everything is.
773
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,283
I don't know where anything is."
774
00:26:58,575 --> 00:26:59,200
And they're like, "Go into
775
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,744
this room and like make a right."
776
00:27:00,744 --> 00:27:02,454
And then like you enter and it's this
777
00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:03,621
place that has so much
778
00:27:03,621 --> 00:27:06,583
history because like every
779
00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:09,169
actor you can think of who's like had
780
00:27:09,169 --> 00:27:11,004
some kind of career has done that show.
781
00:27:11,004 --> 00:27:15,592
And then I met Mariska for the first time
782
00:27:15,592 --> 00:27:17,677
and I have no idea where I'm going.
783
00:27:17,969 --> 00:27:19,220
So like mind you, let's
784
00:27:19,220 --> 00:27:20,138
say the scene was here.
785
00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:22,015
I'm walking over there by the bathroom.
786
00:27:22,349 --> 00:27:24,351
Like I'm like, "Well, where's the...?"
787
00:27:24,351 --> 00:27:25,352
I was like, "Where are the cameras?
788
00:27:25,852 --> 00:27:26,519
Where do I go?"
789
00:27:26,978 --> 00:27:29,022
And then they're like
790
00:27:29,022 --> 00:27:30,315
Mariska, she sees me.
791
00:27:30,315 --> 00:27:31,983
She's like, "You, like you,
792
00:27:31,983 --> 00:27:33,693
like you're, you're, come here.
793
00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:34,819
Like you're meant to be here."
794
00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:36,738
And like gives me this big hug.
795
00:27:37,405 --> 00:27:38,698
And it was like those words
796
00:27:38,698 --> 00:27:40,325
like, "You're meant to be here."
797
00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:42,869
That when she like
798
00:27:42,869 --> 00:27:44,329
hugged me, I went like, "Huh."
799
00:27:46,164 --> 00:27:47,624
Because I was like, "What?
800
00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:53,129
I'm meant to be like here?
801
00:27:53,671 --> 00:27:54,631
What are you talking about?"
802
00:27:55,298 --> 00:27:55,715
That's beautiful.
803
00:27:57,008 --> 00:27:58,009
But I was nervous.
804
00:27:58,009 --> 00:27:59,969
I was for, I was, I was nervous because
805
00:27:59,969 --> 00:28:01,763
like everyone's known
806
00:28:01,763 --> 00:28:03,014
each other for so long.
807
00:28:03,431 --> 00:28:05,016
So like you're, like if you ever talk
808
00:28:05,016 --> 00:28:05,975
about being the new kid
809
00:28:05,975 --> 00:28:06,976
on the block, like that
810
00:28:06,976 --> 00:28:09,604
is being the new kid on the block.
811
00:28:09,604 --> 00:28:12,982
I saw in an interview that they said I
812
00:28:12,982 --> 00:28:14,359
only signed up for four seasons.
813
00:28:14,818 --> 00:28:16,403
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
814
00:28:16,403 --> 00:28:17,737
Yeah, he did.
815
00:28:18,238 --> 00:28:19,781
No, four episodes, I think.
816
00:28:19,781 --> 00:28:20,115
Four episodes, right.
817
00:28:20,115 --> 00:28:21,032
It was only four episodes.
818
00:28:21,032 --> 00:28:21,491
Four episodes.
819
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:22,617
Right, right, right.
820
00:28:23,827 --> 00:28:24,786
I definitely could see
821
00:28:24,786 --> 00:28:25,954
this being a long run.
822
00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:30,667
Talk to me about being a Latina in music.
823
00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:32,168
Do you listen to any music?
824
00:28:32,168 --> 00:28:35,672
We are here at a beautiful place, a
825
00:28:35,672 --> 00:28:36,881
friend of mine owns his
826
00:28:36,881 --> 00:28:39,801
bar, Bea Wax in Brooklyn.
827
00:28:39,801 --> 00:28:40,635
That's so cool.
828
00:28:41,970 --> 00:28:44,013
What do you listen to, music?
829
00:28:44,764 --> 00:28:46,683
I listen to everything.
830
00:28:47,392 --> 00:28:49,436
Right now, I'm listening to Kendrick
831
00:28:49,436 --> 00:28:51,271
Lamar's new album on repeat.
832
00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:51,688
Okay.
833
00:28:52,105 --> 00:28:52,981
Because it's so good.
834
00:28:53,231 --> 00:28:54,399
But I listen to everything.
835
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:55,900
I like grew up listening to Shakira.
836
00:28:56,484 --> 00:28:57,902
So I remember Las Pies
837
00:28:57,902 --> 00:28:59,571
Descalzos or something.
838
00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:00,822
Pies Descalzos.
839
00:29:01,072 --> 00:29:01,781
Descalzos.
840
00:29:02,323 --> 00:29:06,828
I don't know why, but my family would put
841
00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:08,997
that CD for us to sleep.
842
00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:10,498
Oh, wow.
843
00:29:10,498 --> 00:29:11,875
So I would listen to
844
00:29:11,875 --> 00:29:14,252
her music to go to sleep.
845
00:29:14,836 --> 00:29:16,212
And I'd wake up like...
846
00:29:18,256 --> 00:29:24,137
And they're like, "Oh, that's Shakira."
847
00:29:24,137 --> 00:29:26,514
It was like an earworm and it just
848
00:29:26,514 --> 00:29:27,599
constantly played in my head.
849
00:29:28,766 --> 00:29:30,477
So I definitely listen to Las Shakira,
850
00:29:31,478 --> 00:29:33,897
Carlos Sivies, Juanes.
851
00:29:34,939 --> 00:29:37,275
But I also listen to
852
00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:38,401
a lot of Carol G now.
853
00:29:39,068 --> 00:29:40,361
I listen to jazz, so I
854
00:29:40,361 --> 00:29:41,404
listen to Miles Davis.
855
00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:45,783
I'm getting into rock now for SVU.
856
00:29:46,242 --> 00:29:47,577
So I'm listening to...
857
00:29:49,245 --> 00:29:49,621
Right now, I'm
858
00:29:49,621 --> 00:29:52,040
listening to a bit of Bob Dylan.
859
00:29:53,291 --> 00:29:55,210
I'm listening to
860
00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:58,379
Rolling Stones, Sex Pistols.
861
00:29:59,088 --> 00:29:59,923
I listen to everything.
862
00:30:00,965 --> 00:30:01,716
I listen to everything.
863
00:30:02,091 --> 00:30:03,885
And La Muchacha, new
864
00:30:03,885 --> 00:30:04,719
artist from Colombia.
865
00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:05,470
Amazing.
866
00:30:06,387 --> 00:30:07,555
La Muchacha, I haven't heard.
867
00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:08,264
I love.
868
00:30:09,474 --> 00:30:10,016
I love.
869
00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:12,352
I'm gonna ask my Colombian...
870
00:30:12,936 --> 00:30:14,103
You know La Muchacha?
871
00:30:14,812 --> 00:30:15,772
What?
872
00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:16,940
She's so good.
873
00:30:17,607 --> 00:30:18,691
She just had a live...
874
00:30:19,734 --> 00:30:20,985
She had a live show.
875
00:30:21,402 --> 00:30:21,444
You gotta get La
Muchacha to look at it.
876
00:30:21,444 --> 00:30:23,905
You gotta get La Muchacha to look at it. I'm so good. You gotta get La Muchacha to look at it.
877
00:30:23,988 --> 00:30:25,156
In Brooklyn, she's so good.
878
00:30:25,782 --> 00:30:26,199
She talks...
879
00:30:26,783 --> 00:30:28,576
You know what I like, and talking about
880
00:30:28,576 --> 00:30:29,911
Kendrick Lamar and stuff like that?
881
00:30:31,579 --> 00:30:34,791
They're talking about real stuff.
882
00:30:36,876 --> 00:30:37,585
They're talking about...
883
00:30:37,877 --> 00:30:41,005
When you do stuff in this business, I
884
00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:41,881
think on the outside,
885
00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:43,174
people are like, "Oh, that's
886
00:30:43,174 --> 00:30:43,716
so glamorous."
887
00:30:44,342 --> 00:30:45,301
Or like, "Oh, that's
888
00:30:45,301 --> 00:30:46,886
so cool, and that's..."
889
00:30:46,886 --> 00:30:47,428
Et cetera.
890
00:30:48,221 --> 00:30:50,056
There's a lot of hard work, and there's a
891
00:30:50,056 --> 00:30:51,724
lot of BS you put up
892
00:30:51,724 --> 00:30:52,642
with, and there's a lot
893
00:30:52,642 --> 00:30:54,102
of testaments.
894
00:30:54,852 --> 00:30:56,145
Whenever someone's fighting for their
895
00:30:56,145 --> 00:30:57,981
dreams, there's a lot of
896
00:30:57,981 --> 00:31:00,066
a hero's journey of like,
897
00:31:00,316 --> 00:31:03,403
will you learn past your
898
00:31:03,403 --> 00:31:05,196
mistakes to be successful?
899
00:31:06,322 --> 00:31:09,242
And artists like La Muchacha or Kendrick
900
00:31:09,242 --> 00:31:11,619
Lamar, or even just like...
901
00:31:11,619 --> 00:31:13,663
Bob Dylan, he spoke so much about things
902
00:31:13,663 --> 00:31:14,330
that he went through.
903
00:31:14,706 --> 00:31:18,835
They're being honest about the artistry.
904
00:31:19,085 --> 00:31:20,211
I gotta tell you something funny.
905
00:31:21,004 --> 00:31:26,050
When the song "Not Like Us" came out, I'm
906
00:31:26,050 --> 00:31:26,884
playing that song,
907
00:31:27,093 --> 00:31:28,261
and I don't know what's
908
00:31:28,261 --> 00:31:29,304
going on in the world.
909
00:31:29,429 --> 00:31:29,887
I'm like, "All right, so my son..."
910
00:31:29,887 --> 00:31:30,722
You don't know the beef.
911
00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:31,723
I don't know the beef, right?
912
00:31:32,056 --> 00:31:32,348
I don't know the beef.
913
00:31:32,557 --> 00:31:33,725
My son, I'm like...
914
00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:34,559
And I put images of
915
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:35,727
immigrants working, right?
916
00:31:36,894 --> 00:31:38,896
I own a cleaning company,
917
00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:40,815
and we were doing this video.
918
00:31:41,941 --> 00:31:43,234
Yeah, it's funny that you said you were
919
00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:44,027
trying to play a role.
920
00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:47,030
Anyway, they're not like us.
921
00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:47,655
They're not like us.
922
00:31:47,655 --> 00:31:48,656
And I'm playing that, and
923
00:31:48,656 --> 00:31:49,574
I'm putting it on my Instagram.
924
00:31:49,824 --> 00:31:52,285
He's like, "Dad, I know what's going on."
925
00:31:52,910 --> 00:31:54,120
Do you know the beef?
926
00:31:55,038 --> 00:31:57,915
I was like, "No, I just like that part.
927
00:31:57,915 --> 00:31:58,875
It's not like us."
928
00:31:59,459 --> 00:32:01,961
And I took it in and I was like, "We
929
00:32:01,961 --> 00:32:03,630
don't take days off.
930
00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:04,172
We keep working."
931
00:32:04,672 --> 00:32:06,924
It's different when you have to go
932
00:32:06,924 --> 00:32:08,676
overseas and land in a
933
00:32:08,676 --> 00:32:10,136
place where nobody speaks like
934
00:32:10,261 --> 00:32:10,553
you.
935
00:32:10,553 --> 00:32:10,803
Exactly.
936
00:32:12,263 --> 00:32:14,557
Do you feel like that's still in New
937
00:32:14,557 --> 00:32:15,767
York, or New York is home now?
938
00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:18,102
Is New York coming from Miami?
939
00:32:18,478 --> 00:32:19,062
You've been here.
940
00:32:19,062 --> 00:32:20,772
I feel like New York is more my home than
941
00:32:20,772 --> 00:32:21,564
Miami at this point.
942
00:32:21,856 --> 00:32:22,357
That's right.
943
00:32:22,649 --> 00:32:23,316
Because I moved to
944
00:32:23,316 --> 00:32:24,859
New York as a teenager.
945
00:32:25,151 --> 00:32:27,195
And then I speak more
946
00:32:27,195 --> 00:32:28,196
New York at this point.
947
00:32:29,405 --> 00:32:30,823
You definitely look New York.
948
00:32:30,823 --> 00:32:32,200
I look New York at this point.
949
00:32:33,576 --> 00:32:34,786
But I feel like I was raised.
950
00:32:34,994 --> 00:32:36,746
I grew up as an adult in New York.
951
00:32:37,205 --> 00:32:37,997
And then New York also
952
00:32:37,997 --> 00:32:40,041
raised me in ways of...
953
00:32:40,541 --> 00:32:41,834
Is it Frank Sinatra who says, "If you can
954
00:32:41,834 --> 00:32:42,960
make it here, you can make it anywhere"?
955
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,503
That's right.
956
00:32:43,503 --> 00:32:44,629
That it's just like you have...
957
00:32:45,088 --> 00:32:47,215
The opportunities are possible.
958
00:32:47,215 --> 00:32:48,508
You just have to work for it.
959
00:32:48,925 --> 00:32:50,802
And never take no as an answer.
960
00:32:51,135 --> 00:32:54,681
The culture here, it's swag city.
961
00:32:55,181 --> 00:32:56,057
You don't have to swag city.
962
00:32:56,307 --> 00:32:57,767
And I think that I keep saying that as
963
00:32:57,767 --> 00:32:59,352
immigrants, we believe that dream.
964
00:32:59,769 --> 00:33:00,895
I believed it.
965
00:33:00,895 --> 00:33:01,729
I was like, "Okay, New
966
00:33:01,729 --> 00:33:02,689
York, I can do anything."
967
00:33:03,272 --> 00:33:05,817
And now that things have happened for me,
968
00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:07,735
I have the same mentality.
969
00:33:07,735 --> 00:33:08,486
It's like, "I'm in New York.
970
00:33:08,861 --> 00:33:09,696
I can make it happen."
971
00:33:10,405 --> 00:33:11,906
You have to have some sort of that
972
00:33:11,906 --> 00:33:13,491
destiny and sense of belonging.
973
00:33:14,617 --> 00:33:15,702
Why are we doing a chain?
974
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:18,204
Because this is where I am
975
00:33:18,204 --> 00:33:20,123
and New York, we could do it.
976
00:33:21,249 --> 00:33:22,792
I want to ask you a last question.
977
00:33:24,752 --> 00:33:28,214
Latinas that you love to work with.
978
00:33:28,881 --> 00:33:31,217
I know that you work with Sofia Vergara.
979
00:33:31,217 --> 00:33:31,426
I know.
980
00:33:32,176 --> 00:33:34,053
I have to get respect to Sofia Vergara.
981
00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:35,388
I have to get respect for her.
982
00:33:35,972 --> 00:33:37,056
Latinas I would love to work with.
983
00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:39,600
There's many Latinas I
984
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,686
would love to work with.
985
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,189
So I just saw Amelia Perez.
986
00:33:46,065 --> 00:33:46,357
With Zoe.
987
00:33:47,066 --> 00:33:48,401
Zoe Zallania.
988
00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:50,069
I would love to work with her.
989
00:33:51,028 --> 00:33:51,571
Selena Gomez.
990
00:33:52,989 --> 00:33:55,366
They're both so amazing in the film as so
991
00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:56,451
many other people were.
992
00:33:57,618 --> 00:34:01,289
I would love to work with Aja Arjona.
993
00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:04,250
Ana de Armas.
994
00:34:05,084 --> 00:34:09,505
I respect the challenges, like the
995
00:34:09,505 --> 00:34:10,590
creative challenges she
996
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:11,924
did in Maryland Monroe.
997
00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:14,302
That's stuff that I want to do as well.
998
00:34:14,677 --> 00:34:16,512
Also I really want to
999
00:34:16,512 --> 00:34:17,263
work with directors.
1000
00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:18,556
I want to work with movie directors.
1001
00:34:19,432 --> 00:34:22,769
When I think of people like Pedro Al
1002
00:34:22,769 --> 00:34:25,438
Moldovar has done, you
1003
00:34:25,438 --> 00:34:27,732
have a lot of really amazing
1004
00:34:27,732 --> 00:34:29,192
Latino directors right now.
1005
00:34:30,526 --> 00:34:30,902
And given the
1006
00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:33,112
opportunity to talent like you.
1007
00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:35,907
I love who talked
1008
00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:37,158
about the Lincoln Lawyer.
1009
00:34:37,366 --> 00:34:40,661
That whole behind the scenes.
1010
00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:43,289
I want to ask you one last thing.
1011
00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:45,166
Tell me.
1012
00:34:46,334 --> 00:34:49,629
No, no, because I respect your opinion.
1013
00:34:49,962 --> 00:34:50,922
And I want to be sincere.
1014
00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:53,132
Tell me what you like about Uchine.
1015
00:34:53,132 --> 00:34:54,050
How you think that we
1016
00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:56,052
could continue this journey.
1017
00:34:56,052 --> 00:34:57,470
Because my goal is to
1018
00:34:57,470 --> 00:34:58,304
meet people like you.
1019
00:34:59,347 --> 00:35:03,351
And give inspiration for
1020
00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:04,393
those that are looking at you.
1021
00:35:05,853 --> 00:35:06,854
So anything that you
1022
00:35:06,854 --> 00:35:08,272
like about Uchine so far?
1023
00:35:08,731 --> 00:35:10,858
Yeah, it's like this is also
1024
00:35:10,858 --> 00:35:12,985
like this is like grassroots.
1025
00:35:12,985 --> 00:35:14,111
This is community driven.
1026
00:35:14,737 --> 00:35:17,031
Have like fellow Colombians over here.
1027
00:35:17,532 --> 00:35:18,616
I'm like talking to another
1028
00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:21,118
Latino such as like as we are.
1029
00:35:21,536 --> 00:35:24,914
It's there's not like so there's not too
1030
00:35:24,914 --> 00:35:26,040
many like there's so
1031
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,583
many of us like the global
1032
00:35:27,708 --> 00:35:28,960
majority as they say like
1033
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,878
we're we're so prevalent.
1034
00:35:31,504 --> 00:35:33,130
But in terms of like industry and stuff
1035
00:35:33,130 --> 00:35:34,132
and like making art
1036
00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:36,300
into like the nexus of like
1037
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:37,969
society and what we're talking about.
1038
00:35:38,344 --> 00:35:40,888
There's more that we have to do.
1039
00:35:41,472 --> 00:35:43,516
And to have conversations like this.
1040
00:35:44,225 --> 00:35:47,061
It you know I think about like things
1041
00:35:47,061 --> 00:35:48,479
about the importance of
1042
00:35:48,479 --> 00:35:49,564
like being seen right.
1043
00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:52,066
Like when a when a baby comes out into
1044
00:35:52,066 --> 00:35:52,733
the world like the
1045
00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:53,484
first thing they have to do
1046
00:35:53,484 --> 00:35:55,403
is cry to get breath in their lungs.
1047
00:35:56,112 --> 00:35:57,530
And then the next thing they also have to
1048
00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:58,906
do is they have to
1049
00:35:58,906 --> 00:36:01,284
they have to be seen by
1050
00:36:01,284 --> 00:36:03,452
the mother by someone that they are being
1051
00:36:03,452 --> 00:36:05,079
acknowledged their existence.
1052
00:36:05,872 --> 00:36:07,498
And like I think about that in like such
1053
00:36:07,498 --> 00:36:08,499
a deeper way of like
1054
00:36:08,499 --> 00:36:09,584
what that means like also
1055
00:36:09,584 --> 00:36:13,379
for us because when you're seen your
1056
00:36:13,379 --> 00:36:15,673
existence is there for is
1057
00:36:15,673 --> 00:36:18,926
like is is is there for then
1058
00:36:18,926 --> 00:36:21,178
like put into the like put into the
1059
00:36:21,178 --> 00:36:21,888
universe is like
1060
00:36:21,888 --> 00:36:24,140
something that is worthy to exist.
1061
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:26,017
Something that is validated something
1062
00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:26,976
that's acknowledged.
1063
00:36:27,977 --> 00:36:29,979
And that's that's the only way we can we
1064
00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:31,022
can continue to heal
1065
00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:32,190
and we can continue to do
1066
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:35,151
things is like saying I see you I hear
1067
00:36:35,151 --> 00:36:38,362
you I feel you keep
1068
00:36:38,362 --> 00:36:40,990
doing you keep doing whatever
1069
00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:43,910
you want to do to like to embrace you and
1070
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:46,662
like what your dreams are keep doing that
1071
00:36:46,704 --> 00:36:49,123
because you deserve a place at the table.
1072
00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:50,458
And I think that's
1073
00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:51,709
what Wuchin does right.
1074
00:36:52,919 --> 00:36:54,587
I am so thankful for
1075
00:36:54,587 --> 00:36:55,963
that because it's true.
1076
00:36:56,255 --> 00:36:58,341
I think that that's that's the energy
1077
00:36:58,341 --> 00:36:59,634
that I feel every
1078
00:36:59,634 --> 00:37:01,302
single time that I do out is
1079
00:37:01,302 --> 00:37:02,929
they look forward to the profiles.
1080
00:37:03,512 --> 00:37:05,932
They look forward to seeing them and only
1081
00:37:05,932 --> 00:37:06,891
that but the sharing
1082
00:37:06,891 --> 00:37:08,100
and collaborating with
1083
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,144
the whole machine and to me
1084
00:37:10,144 --> 00:37:13,773
has given me it's a dream.
1085
00:37:14,231 --> 00:37:17,526
I couldn't I couldn't describe because we
1086
00:37:17,526 --> 00:37:19,820
started a long time ago we stopped.
1087
00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:21,530
And now that I'm doing it
1088
00:37:21,530 --> 00:37:23,282
again I'm full of energy.
1089
00:37:24,033 --> 00:37:26,827
I love the fact that every single one of
1090
00:37:26,827 --> 00:37:27,495
the people that I
1091
00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:29,080
profile they're looking forward
1092
00:37:29,163 --> 00:37:31,499
to this one particular video to showcase
1093
00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:32,667
because it's so beautiful.
1094
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,211
And they become part of this journey and
1095
00:37:35,211 --> 00:37:36,712
I'm and I'm so thankful.
1096
00:37:37,296 --> 00:37:37,922
Julianna.
1097
00:37:37,922 --> 00:37:38,255
Thank you.
1098
00:37:38,255 --> 00:37:38,714
Gracias.
1099
00:37:39,215 --> 00:37:40,925
Thank you so much for being with us.
1100
00:37:42,301 --> 00:37:45,179
I am so thankful that you're giving us
1101
00:37:45,179 --> 00:37:48,349
the time and giving us Wuchin.
1102
00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:50,142
You want to say something?
1103
00:37:51,310 --> 00:37:51,519
Yes.
1104
00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:54,021
Well first of all Ramon thank you.
1105
00:37:54,438 --> 00:37:55,731
This is lovely being able
1106
00:37:55,731 --> 00:37:56,816
to be with you guys today.
1107
00:37:57,441 --> 00:38:00,611
And always don't forget Naming Wuchin.
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