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[narrator]
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There's a feeling.
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The pulse of eternal knowledge.
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When you sense the oneness...
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you are with us.
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We brought life to Earth.
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You can't see us,
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but we flourish
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all around you.
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Everywhere.
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In everything.
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And even inside you,
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whether you believe in us
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or not.
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From your first breath
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to your last,
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in darkness
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and in the light,
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we are the oldest
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and youngest.
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We are the largest
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and smallest.
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We are the wisdom
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of a billion years.
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We are creation.
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We are resurrection,
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condemnation,
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and regeneration.
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We are mushrooms.
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[Paul Stamets]
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Mushrooms are very clandestine
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and very much the trickster.
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So, they're hiding
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from you all the time.
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We're in Agarikon
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territory now.
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There're some big
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living snags up here.
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It's always interesting
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and exhilarating
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to be in the old growth forest,
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but not always rewarding
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in accomplishing our mission
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to find a new Agarikon strain,
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but nevertheless,
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it beats being
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in the office.
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Fungi are the grand molecular
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decomposers of nature.
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Now, what does that mean?
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Well,
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they break down wood,
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and here I'm laying
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in the forest.
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I haven't peeked yet,
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but here's a piece of wood
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laying down on the ground.
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If I was laying down
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on the ground and I died,
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fungi would leap up
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to recycle me.
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Well, that's the way
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of nature.
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Mushrooms represent rebirth,
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rejuvenation, regeneration.
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Fungi generate soil
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that gives life.
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The task that we face today
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is to understand
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the language of nature.
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My mission is to discover
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the language of nature
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of the fungal networks
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that communicate
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with the ecosystem,
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and I believe
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nature is intelligent.
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The fact that we lack
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the language skills
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to communicate with nature
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does not impugn the concept
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that nature's intelligent.
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It speaks to our inadequacy
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for communication.
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If we don't get our act together
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and come in commonality
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and understanding
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with the organisms
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that sustain us today,
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not only will we destroy
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those organisms,
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but we will
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destroy ourselves.
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Mushroom.
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It's not like a vegetable,
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and it's not like a animal,
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but it's somewhere in between.
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The fungus is its
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own kingdom altogether.
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There's over
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1.5 million species.
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That's six times more
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than plants.
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Of all those species
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of fungi,
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about 20,000
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produce mushrooms,
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and mushrooms come
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in an incredible diversity
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of shapes and sizes
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and colors and lifestyles.
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There are even
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bioluminescent mushrooms.
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A lot of people are afraid
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of mushrooms.
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People associate mushrooms
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and fungi-- you know, mold--
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with death and decay,
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which makes sense.
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You know,
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there's a lot of fear
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because of fungi's role
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in the cycle of life.
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They decompose dead
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and dying organisms
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and move all those nutrients
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back into the cycle.
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They kind of are
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at the very end of stuff,
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but they're also
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at the beginning.
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[Michael Pollan] Once you start
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working with mushrooms,
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you get drawn in.
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A really important difference
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between plants and fungi
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is that plants have evolved
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to catch your eye.
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When a tomato gets red,
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it is saying,
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"Hey, I'm ready. Come get me."
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The mushrooms
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don't give a shit.
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They're doing their own thing,
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and a lot of them are hiding.
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Every time you pick up
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a mushroom,
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you are faced
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with the omnivore's dilemma.
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Do I know enough
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to eat this?
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Should I eat this?
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Will this kill me?
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And that's one
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of the reasons why
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people are freaked out
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about mushrooms, because yeah,
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there are ones
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that can kill you.
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There are some that'll take out
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your liver or your kidneys,
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but to be honest with you,
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there's berries in the woods
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that can kill you too.
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So, it's really a matter
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of knowing your mushrooms.
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There's a huge subculture
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of mycophiles,
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of people who are fascinated
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with mushrooms.
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They hunt mushrooms
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together, and they
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eat mushrooms together,
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and they're sort
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of bloated pleasure seekers
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with a scientific bent.
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You know,
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really my kind of crowd.
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[Gary Lincoff]
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This is a tricholoma.
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[Bone]
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Grifola frondosa.
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[Lincoff] This is
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Cortinarius ludogriseus.
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[Bone]
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Agaricus bisporus.
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That's a Cladonia lichen.
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[Bone] So I started attending
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these festivals and forays
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and learning more and more.
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It changed the way
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I saw everything.
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Mushrooms actually
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were the window by which
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I came to understand nature
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in a deeper way.
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[Stamets]
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If we didn't have fungi,
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we would get this buildup
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of plant matter that
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would choke the Earth.
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They really are the key.
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They break down plant life
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and make it usable
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for new plant life
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and for animal life.
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[Bone] They are the digestive
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tracts of the forest.
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One of the lifestyles of fungi
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is as decomposers,
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called saprobes or rotters,
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if you want.
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The yeasts and molds used
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in making beer and wine
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and cheese
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are all saprobes.
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That's actually
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a penicillin mold
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in Gorgonzola
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and Roquefort.
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Bourbon
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is fungi-fermented corn.
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But this ability
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to break things down
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is a talent,
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if you will,
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that can be harnessed
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to help us deal with some
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of our problems like pollution.
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These rotters,
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they can break down
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anything that's natural.
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That's what
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they've evolved to do.
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Anything
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that's hydrocarbon-based,
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so that includes stuff
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like oil spills,
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pollutant problems.
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That's kind
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of the truth of it.
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[Stamets] I was a part
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of this experiment.
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There were four piles saturated
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with diesel
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and other petroleum waste.
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One was a control pile,
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one pile was treated
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with enzymes,
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one pile treated
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with a bacteria,
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and our pile, we inoculated
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with mushroom spores.
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The fungi absorbs the oil,
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so the fungi is producing
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enzymes for oxidases
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that break
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carbon-hydrogen bonds.
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These are the same bonds that
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hold hydrocarbons together.
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So the fungi becomes
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saturated with oil.
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And then when
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we returned six weeks later,
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all the tarps were removed.
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All the other piles
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were dead, dark and stinky.
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We came back to our pile.
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It was covered with hundreds
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of pounds of oyster mushrooms.
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Some of these mushrooms
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are very happy mushrooms.
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They were very large,
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by showing how much nutrition
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that they could obtain.
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But something else happened,
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which was an epiphany
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in my life.
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They sporulated.
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The spores attract insects.
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Birds then came,
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bringing in seeds,
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and our pile became
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an oasis of life.
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[Bone] Mushrooms are
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the fruiting bodies of fungi.
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So the mushroom
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is like the apple.
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The bulk of the organism
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is growing underground
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and it's composed
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of these long threads
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and these threads grow
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one cell at a time
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and then they branch
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and rebranch,
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growing in every
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direction they can,
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even three-dimensionally.
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And that mass of threads
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is called a mycelium.
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When a stick falls
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onto the ground...
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you pull it up...
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and there's mycelium.
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It is virtually everywhere.
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A mycelium has more networks
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than our brain
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has neural pathways,
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and works
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in much the same way,
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with electrolytes,
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electrical pulses.
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They're the most
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common species on Earth.
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They're everywhere.
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Just to give you an idea
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of how much fungi
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are in the forest,
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what you're walking through
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is about 300 miles of fungi
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under every footstep
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that you take.
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And that's
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all over the world.
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And they form
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these massive links.
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It's like a big web just
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growing through the forest.
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Mycelium that can grow out
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even just this big
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can have trillions,
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literally trillions,
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of end branchings.
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Almost everyone knows
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about the computer internet.
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The mycelium shares
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the same network design.
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[Pollan]
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Trees are communicating,
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using the mycelium as pathways.
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They're connecting
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one tree to another.
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They're using the mycelium too
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to feed one another.
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In other words, one tree
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can swap nutrients with
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another tree,
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using mycelium
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as the passageway.
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[Simard] So we often
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think of kin recognition
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as an animal behavior.
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Humans, you know,
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we love our babies.
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We know it's our baby,
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and we're going to look
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after that baby.
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Well, we never thought
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that plants could do that,
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but we're finding
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in our research
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that plants can recognize
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their own kin.
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So these mother trees
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recognize their kin
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through their
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mycorrhizal networks.
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The mother tree
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and the baby seedlings
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are sending signals,
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talking to each other.
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When they're
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connected together
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and carbon is moving
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between plants,
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the trees are supporting
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the weaker ones.
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If she knows
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that there's pests around,
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and that she's under danger,
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she will increase
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her competitive environment
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towards her own babies,
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so that they regenerate
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further away.
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It's a magical thing.
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And this could not happen
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without the fungi.
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[Stamets] I'm not this
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super-idealist tree hugger.
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I do hug trees occasionally.
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I do confess to that,
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but I was a logger.
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I cut the woods.
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Damn, we got a two-for-one
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on that one.
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Cutting down these trees
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and we're going to let them rot,
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but we're letting them rot
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with a purpose.
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We're letting them rot
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with shiitake mushrooms,
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which are delicious
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and medicinal
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Yes!
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September of '74,
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Paul was working as a logger
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in Darrington.
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I went up to visit him
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one weekend,
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00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:52,415
and we were out walking
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in the woods,
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and I started showing him
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all these mushrooms, you know?
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He says, "What are those?"
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I said, "You're
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looking at mushrooms,"
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...for the first time.
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We came around a corner and
421
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there's this purple mushroom.
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00:14:00,798 --> 00:14:02,926
I'd never seen one
423
00:14:00,798 --> 00:14:02,926
like that before.
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00:14:02,966 --> 00:14:04,052
It was just like
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this huge epiphany,
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00:14:04,094 --> 00:14:05,553
like... Whoo-whoo!
427
00:14:05,596 --> 00:14:07,722
You know?
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00:14:05,596 --> 00:14:07,722
And that's where it began.
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00:14:07,764 --> 00:14:09,557
He just never stopped.
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These are old red belted
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polypores.
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Elegant polyporus.
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It's got a furry stem.
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This is a delicious
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00:14:15,730 --> 00:14:18,066
shrimp russula mushroom,
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00:14:18,107 --> 00:14:19,567
edible and choice,
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00:14:19,610 --> 00:14:23,279
and it grows here
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00:14:19,610 --> 00:14:23,279
in the old growth forest.
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[Pollan]
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It's rare in science you have
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such powerful amateurs.
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00:14:28,158 --> 00:14:29,702
The meaning of the word
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"amateur" is a lover,
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00:14:29,745 --> 00:14:31,955
and he loves his mushrooms.
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00:14:31,995 --> 00:14:37,210
And he's proven that
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00:14:31,995 --> 00:14:37,210
amateurs can do credible,
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00:14:31,995 --> 00:14:37,210
important research.
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00:14:37,251 --> 00:14:38,503
And that used
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to be the case.
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The 19th century obviously,
451
00:14:40,129 --> 00:14:42,005
you know, was full of
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00:14:40,129 --> 00:14:42,005
great amateur naturalists,
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Darwin being one of them.
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[Harman] He's handed over to
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this universal consciousness.
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That's where genius
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00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:54,602
comes from.
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Every magnificent thing
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00:14:58,273 --> 00:14:59,691
that humans have ever achieved
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00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:01,317
comes from that place.
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00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:12,120
[P. Stamets]
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I grew up in a small town
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called Columbiana, Ohio.
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Very conservative,
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very religious.
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And my brother John
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went to Yale,
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00:15:17,668 --> 00:15:19,293
and my brother Bill
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went to Cornell.
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So we were
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an academic family.
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00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:25,466
But I had
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a severe stuttering habit
474
00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:29,513
that greatly interfered with
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00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:29,513
my ability to express myself.
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00:15:29,553 --> 00:15:32,557
I went through six years
477
00:15:29,553 --> 00:15:32,557
of speech therapy.
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I could not speak
479
00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:34,893
a single sentence
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00:15:34,933 --> 00:15:37,729
without stuttering
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00:15:34,933 --> 00:15:37,729
profusely,
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00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:40,606
and nothing in speech therapy
483
00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:40,606
could help me.
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00:15:42,692 --> 00:15:45,110
I couldn't look at
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00:15:42,692 --> 00:15:45,110
people in their eyes.
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00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:48,239
So all my life,
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00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:48,239
I stared at the ground.
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00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,033
Anybody came up to me,
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00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,033
I'd stare at the ground.
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00:15:51,075 --> 00:15:52,994
I found fossils
491
00:15:51,075 --> 00:15:52,994
and mushrooms.
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00:16:03,421 --> 00:16:06,090
[wind blowing]
493
00:16:08,509 --> 00:16:12,346
[narrator]
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00:16:08,509 --> 00:16:12,346
We are all of the stars.
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00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:15,057
My kingdom was born
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00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:15,057
from the heavens
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00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:17,894
four and a half billion
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00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:17,894
years ago.
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00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,274
We are the pioneers.
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00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:27,528
We climbed out of the sea
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00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:27,528
to create the fertile soil,
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00:16:29,072 --> 00:16:33,493
and set the stage
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00:16:29,072 --> 00:16:33,493
for all of life.
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00:16:39,582 --> 00:16:42,210
[P. Stamets] In South Africa,
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00:16:39,582 --> 00:16:42,210
in the sediments of lava,
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00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:45,171
they have found
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00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:45,171
fungus-like organisms,
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00:16:45,212 --> 00:16:50,509
mycelium fossils in the lava
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00:16:45,212 --> 00:16:50,509
2.4 billion years old.
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00:16:50,552 --> 00:16:55,557
This is the oldest record of a
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00:16:50,552 --> 00:16:55,557
multicellular organism on Earth.
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00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:01,437
This year another
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00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:01,437
fossil was found in
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00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:01,437
the sediments of Brazil.
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00:17:01,479 --> 00:17:03,941
It's 113 million years old
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00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:06,358
and it's a perfectly
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00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:06,358
shaped mushroom.
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00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:14,116
We divided from fungi
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00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:14,116
about 650 million years ago.
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00:17:14,157 --> 00:17:15,576
One branch led to fungi.
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00:17:15,618 --> 00:17:20,038
The other branch led
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00:17:15,618 --> 00:17:20,038
to animals.
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00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,544
We chose a path
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00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,544
of encirculating our nutrients
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00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,544
in sort of a sac, the stomach.
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00:17:24,586 --> 00:17:26,671
The mycelium
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00:17:24,586 --> 00:17:26,671
remained underground,
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00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:29,590
externally digesting
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00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:29,590
its nutrients.
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00:17:33,302 --> 00:17:35,471
Biodiversity surged...
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until we had these great
532
00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:45,189
cataclysmic extinction events,
533
00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:48,276
and when the asteroids
534
00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:48,276
impacted the Earth, bam!
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00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,320
Enormous amounts of debris was
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00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,320
jettisoned in the atmosphere.
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00:17:51,362 --> 00:17:53,114
Sunlight was cut off.
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00:17:54,991 --> 00:17:56,867
Plants die, animals die...
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00:17:58,201 --> 00:18:01,122
and fungi
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00:17:58,201 --> 00:18:01,122
inherited the Earth.
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00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:09,547
From these extinction events,
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00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:09,547
there's one lesson.
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00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:13,759
Those organisms that
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00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:13,759
paired with fungi survived.
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00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:17,806
We are more closely
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00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:17,806
related to fungi
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00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:20,851
than we are to
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00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:20,851
any other kingdom.
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00:18:20,892 --> 00:18:24,269
What this means is that
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00:18:20,892 --> 00:18:24,269
we are descendants of mycelium.
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00:18:24,311 --> 00:18:27,523
Mycelium is
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00:18:24,311 --> 00:18:27,523
the mother of us all.
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00:18:35,365 --> 00:18:37,784
[Pollan] Living creatures
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00:18:35,365 --> 00:18:37,784
like fungi are intelligent
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00:18:37,826 --> 00:18:41,203
in the sense that they respond
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00:18:37,826 --> 00:18:41,203
to their environment,
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00:18:41,244 --> 00:18:43,748
they seek out food,
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00:18:41,244 --> 00:18:43,748
and they defend themselves.
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00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:47,417
They solve problems,
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00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:47,417
and that's intelligence.
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00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:59,137
[Bone] A mycelium can
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00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:59,137
theoretically live forever
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00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:02,099
as long as it
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00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:02,099
has food to grow into,
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00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:06,269
which is why the oldest
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00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:06,269
and largest organism on Earth
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00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:07,855
is a fungus.
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00:19:07,897 --> 00:19:10,901
It lives on top
569
00:19:07,897 --> 00:19:10,901
of a mountain in Oregon.
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00:19:10,942 --> 00:19:12,527
It's like thousands
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00:19:10,942 --> 00:19:12,527
of acres,
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00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,820
and it's thousands
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00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,820
of years old.
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00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:22,578
The mushroom is the organ
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00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:22,578
of sexual reproduction
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00:19:22,619 --> 00:19:27,041
for the spore
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00:19:22,619 --> 00:19:27,041
of the fungus.
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00:19:27,084 --> 00:19:30,045
Fungi don't have seeds.
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00:19:27,084 --> 00:19:30,045
They have spores.
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00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:34,632
The spores are extremely tiny,
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00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:39,302
little lightweight
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00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:39,302
gene-carrying systems.
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00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:41,765
When they land on something
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00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:41,765
they can eat,
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00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:44,433
they break down the food
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00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:44,433
that they're on,
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00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:46,894
and then reabsorb
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00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:46,894
the nutrients
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00:19:46,936 --> 00:19:48,605
because you need
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00:19:46,936 --> 00:19:48,605
to move on
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00:19:48,645 --> 00:19:52,025
and find another place
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00:19:48,645 --> 00:19:52,025
where there's food.
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00:19:55,112 --> 00:20:01,659
The mushroom releases zillions
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00:19:55,112 --> 00:20:01,659
of spores into the atmosphere.
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00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:03,452
There's so many spore.
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00:20:03,493 --> 00:20:05,829
I mean,
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00:20:03,493 --> 00:20:05,829
you take one breath...
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00:20:07,082 --> 00:20:09,500
you just breathed in
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00:20:07,082 --> 00:20:09,500
ten fungal spore.
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00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:13,546
So they are everywhere.
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We've evolved with them.
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[Harman]
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00:20:15,213 --> 00:20:17,258
When you see what mushrooms do,
604
00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:20,720
it's kind of spooky
605
00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:20,720
in the most wonderful way.
606
00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:22,721
I mean, they correct
607
00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:22,721
everything on Earth.
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00:20:22,763 --> 00:20:24,222
They support life,
609
00:20:24,265 --> 00:20:25,474
they convert life,
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00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:26,977
they carry life.
611
00:20:27,018 --> 00:20:28,811
They're remarkable beings.
612
00:20:30,814 --> 00:20:33,523
If humans become extinct...
613
00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:37,361
what's the next species
614
00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:37,361
that will take over the Earth?
615
00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:40,824
Maybe mycelium already are
616
00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:40,824
the dominant species,
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00:20:40,865 --> 00:20:43,826
not just because they're the
618
00:20:40,865 --> 00:20:43,826
most common species on Earth.
619
00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:45,787
They're everywhere.
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00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:47,747
I mean, you look at humans.
621
00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:47,747
There's seven billion of us,
622
00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:49,165
but we're just one little
623
00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:49,165
creature wandering around,
624
00:20:49,207 --> 00:20:50,834
incredibly vulnerable,
625
00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:53,795
and don't survive easily
626
00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:53,795
if we're assaulted.
627
00:20:53,836 --> 00:20:57,464
[reporter] Hurricane Harvey
628
00:20:53,836 --> 00:20:57,464
has started to make landfall
629
00:20:57,507 --> 00:20:59,092
here on the Texas coast.
630
00:20:59,134 --> 00:21:01,803
More than 30,000 people
631
00:20:59,134 --> 00:21:01,803
are without power,
632
00:21:01,845 --> 00:21:04,681
and things are only
633
00:21:01,845 --> 00:21:04,681
expected to get worse.
634
00:21:04,721 --> 00:21:06,598
[reporter 2] Puerto Rico
635
00:21:04,721 --> 00:21:06,598
has had the worst storm
636
00:21:06,641 --> 00:21:07,767
in about a century,
637
00:21:07,808 --> 00:21:09,393
and it's struggling
638
00:21:09,434 --> 00:21:11,020
to understand the new normal
639
00:21:11,061 --> 00:21:13,772
of months ahead
640
00:21:11,061 --> 00:21:13,772
without basic services.
641
00:21:13,815 --> 00:21:17,902
[man] Climate change is one
642
00:21:13,815 --> 00:21:17,902
of the biggest threats
643
00:21:13,815 --> 00:21:17,902
to our present world,
644
00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:20,403
to the future of our planet.
645
00:21:27,037 --> 00:21:30,080
[Simard] CO2 is our
646
00:21:27,037 --> 00:21:30,080
biggest greenhouse gas.
647
00:21:30,123 --> 00:21:32,000
As plants photosynthesize,
648
00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:36,420
they literally inhale CO2
649
00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:36,420
while exhaling oxygen.
650
00:21:41,384 --> 00:21:43,552
CO2 is what plants
651
00:21:41,384 --> 00:21:43,552
photosynthesize,
652
00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:47,097
and they take that carbon,
653
00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:47,097
and they put it in
654
00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:47,097
different places.
655
00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,017
They put it in their leaves,
656
00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,017
in their trunks,
657
00:21:49,058 --> 00:21:52,811
but they put 70% of it,
658
00:21:49,058 --> 00:21:52,811
we're finding, below ground.
659
00:21:58,608 --> 00:22:02,320
And the root systems trade
660
00:21:58,608 --> 00:22:02,320
that carbon for nutrients.
661
00:22:02,363 --> 00:22:07,035
The carbon ends up in
662
00:22:02,363 --> 00:22:07,035
the fungal cell walls,
663
00:22:02,363 --> 00:22:07,035
where it's stored.
664
00:22:13,083 --> 00:22:15,876
This fuels the
665
00:22:13,083 --> 00:22:15,876
microbial community
666
00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:17,502
and all the other parts
667
00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:17,502
of the food web,
668
00:22:17,545 --> 00:22:18,880
like the mites and nematodes,
669
00:22:18,922 --> 00:22:20,882
and they start
670
00:22:18,922 --> 00:22:20,882
cycling nutrients
671
00:22:20,923 --> 00:22:22,759
through that
672
00:22:20,923 --> 00:22:22,759
eating process.
673
00:22:24,094 --> 00:22:25,595
So the fungi are
674
00:22:24,094 --> 00:22:25,595
really important
675
00:22:25,635 --> 00:22:28,013
in stabilizing
676
00:22:25,635 --> 00:22:28,013
carbon in soils.
677
00:22:28,056 --> 00:22:30,099
Once the carbon is stable,
678
00:22:30,141 --> 00:22:35,063
it can stay there stored
679
00:22:30,141 --> 00:22:35,063
for thousands of years.
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00:22:35,105 --> 00:22:38,275
We know, for example,
681
00:22:35,105 --> 00:22:38,275
that carbon can move
682
00:22:35,105 --> 00:22:38,275
from plant to plant,
683
00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:42,612
and it evens out
684
00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:42,612
the distribution of
685
00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:42,612
carbon in that system.
686
00:22:42,653 --> 00:22:44,488
They're working really hard.
687
00:22:44,529 --> 00:22:46,699
If we maintain the plant,
688
00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:49,243
the forest, and the natural
689
00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:49,243
fungal community,
690
00:22:49,286 --> 00:22:50,869
we've got a natural engine
691
00:22:50,912 --> 00:22:52,913
that's just storing
692
00:22:50,912 --> 00:22:52,913
carbon below ground.
693
00:22:52,955 --> 00:22:55,083
So it's essential.
694
00:22:55,125 --> 00:22:56,875
You know,
695
00:22:55,125 --> 00:22:56,875
it's there for us, right?
696
00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:58,501
It's right
697
00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:58,501
in front of us.
698
00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:05,509
[narrator]
699
00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:05,509
We do more than make mushrooms.
700
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:10,472
We have the ability to
701
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:10,472
do so much more than
702
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:10,472
just breakdown matter.
703
00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:15,019
Like the fruit
704
00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:15,019
of our labor,
705
00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:18,772
most of you have only scratched
706
00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:18,772
the surface of our usefulness.
707
00:23:21,858 --> 00:23:24,528
We are the changers.
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00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:35,580
[P. Stamets] I was 14 or 15
709
00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:35,580
years of age, I believe,
710
00:23:35,623 --> 00:23:37,750
when my brother John
711
00:23:35,623 --> 00:23:37,750
gave me a book...
712
00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:40,961
called Altered States
713
00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:40,961
of Consciousness.
714
00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:42,046
And within that book,
715
00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:43,256
Andy Weil was referenced
716
00:23:43,298 --> 00:23:44,632
on expanded consciousness,
717
00:23:44,673 --> 00:23:46,467
and I got really excited.
718
00:23:48,802 --> 00:23:52,015
I was going to charismatic
719
00:23:48,802 --> 00:23:52,015
Christian revival meetings
720
00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:53,723
and seeing people
721
00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:53,723
being saved,
722
00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:55,726
but it kind of was cool
723
00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:55,726
from my perspective
724
00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:57,603
that they're achieving this
725
00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:57,603
altered state of consciousness.
726
00:23:57,644 --> 00:24:00,397
So I thought that was part
727
00:23:57,644 --> 00:24:00,397
of all the same idea here.
728
00:24:01,606 --> 00:24:04,484
I really owe credit
729
00:24:01,606 --> 00:24:04,484
to Andrew Weil.
730
00:24:06,403 --> 00:24:08,655
[Andrew Weil] I think he
731
00:24:06,403 --> 00:24:08,655
read one of my early books
732
00:24:08,698 --> 00:24:10,700
in which I wrote
733
00:24:08,698 --> 00:24:10,700
about mushroom hunting
734
00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:12,785
and psychedelic mushrooms
735
00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:15,372
and made some reference
736
00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:15,372
to medicinal mushrooms as well.
737
00:24:15,413 --> 00:24:17,039
It was like
738
00:24:15,413 --> 00:24:17,039
a turning point.
739
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,000
You know,
740
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,000
I certainly was awakened.
741
00:24:19,041 --> 00:24:22,420
Other people were thinking
742
00:24:19,041 --> 00:24:22,420
about expanding consciousness.
743
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:25,548
And so I gave this book
744
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:25,548
to my friend Ryan Snyder.
745
00:24:25,588 --> 00:24:27,967
So Ryan took it home
746
00:24:25,588 --> 00:24:27,967
and a few days later,
747
00:24:28,009 --> 00:24:29,509
I said,
748
00:24:28,009 --> 00:24:29,509
"Ryan, where's my book?"
749
00:24:29,551 --> 00:24:32,388
And he told me
750
00:24:29,551 --> 00:24:32,388
his dad had burned it.
751
00:24:33,306 --> 00:24:36,308
I said, "Burned my book?"
752
00:24:36,351 --> 00:24:39,979
Rather than giving it back
753
00:24:36,351 --> 00:24:39,979
to me or calling my parents,
754
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:43,316
he actually took the initiative
755
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:43,316
to burn this book.
756
00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:49,613
I owe Ryan Snyder's father
757
00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:49,613
a deep debt of gratitude
758
00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:54,368
because that single act
759
00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:54,368
galvanized my interest
760
00:24:54,411 --> 00:24:59,123
saying, "If this is so powerful
761
00:24:54,411 --> 00:24:59,123
to cause a person to do
762
00:24:54,411 --> 00:24:59,123
such a bizarre act,
763
00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:03,169
then I should examine
764
00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:03,169
what this subject's all about."
765
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:09,674
[Charles Grob] Human existence
766
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:09,674
on this Earth goes back
767
00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:12,803
an extraordinarily long
768
00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:12,803
period of time,
769
00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:17,267
most of which we have
770
00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:17,267
no identifiable information.
771
00:25:17,307 --> 00:25:19,643
It's entirely plausible,
772
00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:22,480
given that the indigenous
773
00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:22,480
people all around the world
774
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,690
know intimately
775
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,690
all the plant life,
776
00:25:24,731 --> 00:25:27,526
and will know the different
777
00:25:24,731 --> 00:25:27,526
combinations of plant life
778
00:25:27,567 --> 00:25:29,903
that our
779
00:25:27,567 --> 00:25:29,903
prehistoric ancestors,
780
00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:35,742
they had come across the plants
781
00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:35,742
that do alter consciousness.
782
00:25:35,785 --> 00:25:37,744
[Dennis McKenna]
783
00:25:35,785 --> 00:25:37,744
In about two million years,
784
00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:40,663
the human cortex
785
00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:40,663
tripled in size,
786
00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:45,711
and the brain exploded
787
00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:45,711
over a ridiculously short span
788
00:25:45,752 --> 00:25:47,880
of evolutionary time.
789
00:25:47,922 --> 00:25:51,342
Two million years is nothing
790
00:25:47,922 --> 00:25:51,342
when it comes to evolution.
791
00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:53,302
What triggered that?
792
00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:55,011
[P. Stamets]
793
00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:55,011
In the late 1970s,
794
00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:57,181
Terrence McKenna
795
00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:57,181
and his brother Dennis McKenna
796
00:25:57,222 --> 00:26:01,435
were the first that proposed
797
00:25:57,222 --> 00:26:01,435
the Stoned Ape hypothesis.
798
00:26:01,478 --> 00:26:03,895
It is known now
799
00:26:01,478 --> 00:26:03,895
that 22 primates--
800
00:26:03,938 --> 00:26:08,192
23, including us--
801
00:26:03,938 --> 00:26:08,192
consume mushrooms.
802
00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:11,237
And the idea is our ancestors,
803
00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:11,237
they came out of the trees
804
00:26:11,278 --> 00:26:12,363
and went across the savannah,
805
00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:13,448
would be tracking animals
806
00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:15,240
that were pooping.
807
00:26:15,282 --> 00:26:17,034
Well, in the subtropics,
808
00:26:17,076 --> 00:26:19,787
the most common mushroom
809
00:26:17,076 --> 00:26:19,787
coming out of those cow patties
810
00:26:19,828 --> 00:26:23,333
is Psilocybe cubensis,
811
00:26:19,828 --> 00:26:23,333
a potent magic mushroom.
812
00:26:23,374 --> 00:26:24,750
[McKenna]
813
00:26:23,374 --> 00:26:24,750
One thing that mushrooms
814
00:26:24,791 --> 00:26:26,669
and other psychedelics
815
00:26:24,791 --> 00:26:26,669
do reliably
816
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:30,256
is they induce
817
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:30,256
a synesthesia.
818
00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:35,635
Synesthesia is the perception
819
00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:35,635
of one sensory modality
820
00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:35,635
in another,
821
00:26:35,677 --> 00:26:37,596
hearing colors, for example,
822
00:26:37,637 --> 00:26:39,890
or seeing music.
823
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,694
You have these profound
824
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,694
experiences
825
00:26:52,736 --> 00:26:56,406
and you have to put yourself
826
00:26:52,736 --> 00:26:56,406
in their place
827
00:26:56,449 --> 00:26:59,285
and imagine what the impact
828
00:26:56,449 --> 00:26:59,285
of such an experience
829
00:26:59,326 --> 00:27:01,453
must have been
830
00:26:59,326 --> 00:27:01,453
on an early hominid.
831
00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:03,955
These magic mushrooms open up
832
00:27:03,998 --> 00:27:07,376
the floodgates of
833
00:27:03,998 --> 00:27:07,376
information you receive.
834
00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:09,711
Basically, you can think of it
835
00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:09,711
as a contact fluid
836
00:27:09,752 --> 00:27:13,089
between the synapses
837
00:27:09,752 --> 00:27:13,089
within the brain-- Wow!
838
00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,509
What a competitive
839
00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,509
advantage,
840
00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:15,718
especially if you're working
841
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:17,094
with a geometry of weapons,
842
00:27:17,135 --> 00:27:18,887
or having to put
843
00:27:17,135 --> 00:27:18,887
together something
844
00:27:18,929 --> 00:27:22,016
that will give you a better
845
00:27:18,929 --> 00:27:22,016
chance of survival.
846
00:27:22,057 --> 00:27:24,977
The fact that this happened
847
00:27:22,057 --> 00:27:24,977
not once, not twice,
848
00:27:25,019 --> 00:27:27,688
but millions
849
00:27:25,019 --> 00:27:27,688
upon millions of times
850
00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:29,272
over millions of years
851
00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:31,192
is a very plausible
852
00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:31,192
explanation
853
00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:34,987
for the tripling of the brain
854
00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:34,987
two million years ago.
855
00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:38,865
[McKenna] It's not so simple
856
00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:38,865
to say that they ate
857
00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:38,865
psilocybin mushrooms
858
00:27:38,907 --> 00:27:40,284
and suddenly the brain mutated.
859
00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,161
I think it's more
860
00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,161
complex than that,
861
00:27:42,202 --> 00:27:44,954
but I think it was a factor.
862
00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:46,832
It was like a software
863
00:27:46,874 --> 00:27:51,628
to program this neurologically
864
00:27:46,874 --> 00:27:51,628
modern hardware to think,
865
00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:55,007
to have cognition,
866
00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:55,007
to have language
867
00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:57,551
because language
868
00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:57,551
is essentially synesthesia.
869
00:27:57,594 --> 00:27:59,261
Language
870
00:27:57,594 --> 00:27:59,261
is just association
871
00:27:59,302 --> 00:28:01,388
with apparently
872
00:27:59,302 --> 00:28:01,388
meaningless sound
873
00:28:01,431 --> 00:28:05,643
except that it's associated
874
00:28:01,431 --> 00:28:05,643
with the complex of meaning.
875
00:28:05,683 --> 00:28:09,396
A great deal of the brain's
876
00:28:05,683 --> 00:28:09,396
real estate, you might say,
877
00:28:09,439 --> 00:28:11,523
is devoted to the generation
878
00:28:11,566 --> 00:28:14,151
and/or the comprehension
879
00:28:11,566 --> 00:28:14,151
of language.
880
00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:17,695
Those neural structures
881
00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:17,695
are not found in our ancestors.
882
00:28:17,738 --> 00:28:20,657
That's a human trait
883
00:28:17,738 --> 00:28:20,657
to have so much physiology
884
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:24,287
devoted to generating
885
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:24,287
and understanding language,
886
00:28:24,327 --> 00:28:26,872
and that's a reflection
887
00:28:24,327 --> 00:28:26,872
of evolutionary advance
888
00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:29,083
that made us
889
00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:29,083
what we are.
890
00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:36,173
[P. Stamets] I couldn't
891
00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:36,173
get these mushrooms for
892
00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:36,173
the longest time.
893
00:28:36,214 --> 00:28:37,840
When I was in Ohio,
894
00:28:37,883 --> 00:28:41,095
I actually purchased
895
00:28:37,883 --> 00:28:41,095
a bag of magic mushrooms,
896
00:28:41,136 --> 00:28:43,180
but I had no guide.
897
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:46,933
I had no recommendations
898
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:46,933
for how much to consume.
899
00:28:46,976 --> 00:28:49,728
So I had a bag about this big,
900
00:28:46,976 --> 00:28:49,728
so I thought,
901
00:28:49,769 --> 00:28:51,771
"Well, that's probably
902
00:28:49,769 --> 00:28:51,771
one dose."
903
00:28:51,814 --> 00:28:54,023
So I consumed the bag!
904
00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:55,858
Now, for those of you
905
00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:55,858
who don't know,
906
00:28:55,901 --> 00:28:57,528
this is like ten times more
907
00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:00,114
than you probably need
908
00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:00,114
to consume.
909
00:29:00,155 --> 00:29:01,657
It was a warm summer day,
910
00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:05,368
and there was a beautiful
911
00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:05,368
big, big tree,
912
00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:06,537
an oak tree,
913
00:29:06,578 --> 00:29:07,871
and then I noticed
914
00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:09,499
the black clouds
915
00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:09,499
on the horizon,
916
00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:11,875
and I realized there
917
00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:11,875
was a storm coming.
918
00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:14,461
And I thought, "This is great.
919
00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:14,461
There's great visual.
920
00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:14,461
The storm coming."
921
00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:17,173
And I thought,
922
00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:17,173
"Well I'm going to climb
923
00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:17,173
to the top of the tree."
924
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:18,798
So I'm starting
925
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:18,798
to feel the effects.
926
00:29:25,515 --> 00:29:30,560
I'm getting waves
927
00:29:25,515 --> 00:29:30,560
where the air becomes a liquid,
928
00:29:30,603 --> 00:29:32,395
and...
929
00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:33,896
you'd have this
930
00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:33,896
distortion field,
931
00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:36,192
go through
932
00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:36,192
the visual landscape.
933
00:29:36,232 --> 00:29:38,234
I've never seen that before,
934
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:41,864
and go, "Oh wow, this is what
935
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:41,864
they were talking about."
936
00:29:41,904 --> 00:29:44,616
And I see the boiling clouds
937
00:29:41,904 --> 00:29:44,616
are coming closer,
938
00:29:44,659 --> 00:29:46,576
but they're looking angry now.
939
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:49,288
And then the
940
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:49,288
lightning strikes would go...
941
00:29:49,329 --> 00:29:51,665
[imitating lightning strikes]
942
00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,916
and then all these
943
00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,916
geometrical fractals
944
00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:56,378
would emanate out
945
00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:56,378
of the lightning strikes.
946
00:29:56,420 --> 00:29:57,547
And pretty soon,
947
00:29:57,587 --> 00:29:58,714
I have these overlying mosaics
948
00:29:58,756 --> 00:30:00,215
of mathematical patterns
949
00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:02,884
and geometric figures
950
00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:02,884
of multiple colors
951
00:30:02,925 --> 00:30:05,221
that are swimming
952
00:30:02,925 --> 00:30:05,221
in this field of vision
953
00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:07,515
that these waves
954
00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:07,515
were flying through.
955
00:30:07,557 --> 00:30:10,727
I've never in my life seen
956
00:30:07,557 --> 00:30:10,727
anything like that before.
957
00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:14,480
Wind's increasing
958
00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:14,480
and the rains would come,
959
00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:16,773
and I became extremely scared.
960
00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:19,192
And then also I realize
961
00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:19,192
I'm on the top of a hill,
962
00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,695
I got a lightning storm
963
00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,695
in the tallest tree.
964
00:30:21,738 --> 00:30:22,820
Not the best place to be
965
00:30:22,863 --> 00:30:23,864
when you're going to choose
966
00:30:23,905 --> 00:30:24,990
a spiritual experience.
967
00:30:25,031 --> 00:30:26,659
And so I held onto the tree
968
00:30:26,701 --> 00:30:27,951
for dear life,
969
00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:29,494
and that tree
970
00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:29,494
was my pillar,
971
00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:31,163
back into the core
972
00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:31,163
of the Earth.
973
00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,584
And I felt secure as long
974
00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,584
as I held onto the tree.
975
00:30:34,625 --> 00:30:36,711
Lightning strikes all around.
976
00:30:34,625 --> 00:30:36,711
Thunderclaps.
977
00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:39,128
One second between
978
00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:39,128
the lightning strike
979
00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:39,128
and a thunderclap.
980
00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:42,048
You knew it was coming
981
00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:42,048
closer and closer.
982
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:46,095
I was terrified
983
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:46,095
that I wouldn't survive,
984
00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:48,971
And through this
985
00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:48,971
"terror-rific" experience,
986
00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:50,932
terrifying and terrific
987
00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:50,932
at the same time,
988
00:30:50,973 --> 00:30:52,559
I'm up in this tree
989
00:30:50,973 --> 00:30:52,559
and I'm saying,
990
00:30:52,602 --> 00:30:54,394
"Well, what should I focus on?"
991
00:30:54,436 --> 00:30:56,355
I said, "Well, Stamets,
992
00:30:54,436 --> 00:30:56,355
you're not stupid.
993
00:30:56,396 --> 00:30:59,107
But you stutter all the time."
994
00:30:59,148 --> 00:31:03,278
And so I thought I need
995
00:30:59,148 --> 00:31:03,278
to stop stuttering.
996
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:05,698
And so I said to myself,
997
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:05,698
"Stop stuttering.
998
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:07,784
Stop stuttering now."
999
00:31:07,825 --> 00:31:10,160
A little inner voice
1000
00:31:07,825 --> 00:31:10,160
in my head.
1001
00:31:10,201 --> 00:31:12,788
"You hear me?
1002
00:31:10,201 --> 00:31:12,788
Stop stuttering now."
1003
00:31:12,829 --> 00:31:14,414
I started saying that.
1004
00:31:14,457 --> 00:31:16,291
"Stop stuttering now.
1005
00:31:14,457 --> 00:31:16,291
Stop stuttering now."
1006
00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:18,669
Hundreds, hundreds, hundreds,
1007
00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:18,669
thousands of times.
1008
00:31:24,258 --> 00:31:25,634
After the storm had passed,
1009
00:31:25,675 --> 00:31:27,761
I came down from
1010
00:31:25,675 --> 00:31:27,761
the tree drenched,
1011
00:31:27,804 --> 00:31:29,596
soaked to the bone,
1012
00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:31,723
you know,
1013
00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:31,723
in love with life,
1014
00:31:31,766 --> 00:31:33,976
with nature,
1015
00:31:31,766 --> 00:31:33,976
in love with that tree.
1016
00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:36,269
That tree was so important
1017
00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:36,269
to me.
1018
00:31:36,311 --> 00:31:37,895
And I went home,
1019
00:31:37,938 --> 00:31:39,272
and I went to bed.
1020
00:31:39,315 --> 00:31:40,650
I didn't see anybody.
1021
00:31:40,691 --> 00:31:42,108
And the next morning
1022
00:31:40,691 --> 00:31:42,108
I woke up,
1023
00:31:42,151 --> 00:31:45,194
and there was a really
1024
00:31:42,151 --> 00:31:45,194
attractive lady
1025
00:31:45,237 --> 00:31:46,697
that I liked a lot,
1026
00:31:46,739 --> 00:31:48,490
but I could never stare
1027
00:31:46,739 --> 00:31:48,490
at her in the eyes,
1028
00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:50,701
because I was afraid to stutter
1029
00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:50,701
and embarrass myself.
1030
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,746
So better to avoid
1031
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,746
social contact than
1032
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,746
have social contact,
1033
00:31:53,788 --> 00:31:55,832
even though I was
1034
00:31:53,788 --> 00:31:55,832
really attracted to her.
1035
00:31:55,873 --> 00:31:57,165
And she liked me,
1036
00:31:57,207 --> 00:31:58,500
but I didn't know
1037
00:31:57,207 --> 00:31:58,500
what to do with it,
1038
00:31:58,541 --> 00:31:59,836
with that tension.
1039
00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:01,336
And so she was walking past me,
1040
00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:02,672
and she looked at me,
1041
00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:04,047
and she said,
1042
00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:04,047
"Good morning, Paul."
1043
00:32:04,088 --> 00:32:05,298
And for the first time
1044
00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:06,800
I looked her straight
1045
00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:06,800
in the eye
1046
00:32:06,843 --> 00:32:09,135
and I said,
1047
00:32:06,843 --> 00:32:09,135
"Good morning. How are you?"
1048
00:32:09,178 --> 00:32:11,971
And I stopped stuttering
1049
00:32:09,178 --> 00:32:11,971
in one session.
1050
00:32:22,023 --> 00:32:25,819
[Skrillex playing on radio ]
1051
00:32:34,076 --> 00:32:36,413
This is the newest thing
1052
00:32:34,076 --> 00:32:36,413
my employees are listening to.
1053
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:39,415
My employees are my best
1054
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:39,415
source of new music.
1055
00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:42,627
We love loud music
1056
00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:42,627
for the mushrooms
1057
00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:42,627
in the laboratories.
1058
00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:46,339
It causes everyone
1059
00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:46,339
to be synchronized.
1060
00:32:46,382 --> 00:32:48,759
We have a lot of nonverbal
1061
00:32:46,382 --> 00:32:48,759
communication in laboratories.
1062
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,219
You're not allowed to talk.
1063
00:32:50,259 --> 00:32:51,929
Your mouth spreads bacteria.
1064
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,596
So we try
1065
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,596
to minimize talking.
1066
00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:55,807
So a lot of it is done
1067
00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:55,807
by gestures and knowing.
1068
00:32:55,849 --> 00:32:58,810
So, why not have it
1069
00:32:55,849 --> 00:32:58,810
with loud music?
1070
00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:02,690
My dad was a businessman.
1071
00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:04,733
I swore
1072
00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:04,733
I'd never become one,
1073
00:33:04,775 --> 00:33:07,443
but I wanted to be
1074
00:33:04,775 --> 00:33:07,443
independent,
1075
00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:09,988
so I created a little
1076
00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:09,988
mail-order business
1077
00:33:10,029 --> 00:33:13,534
in order to supply myself
1078
00:33:10,029 --> 00:33:13,534
and other people who had
1079
00:33:10,029 --> 00:33:13,534
like interest in mushrooms.
1080
00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:16,202
When we started the business,
1081
00:33:16,244 --> 00:33:18,329
it was extremely
1082
00:33:16,244 --> 00:33:18,329
difficult back then,
1083
00:33:18,372 --> 00:33:20,123
and we didn't have
1084
00:33:18,372 --> 00:33:20,123
the resources.
1085
00:33:20,164 --> 00:33:21,541
We were putting
1086
00:33:20,164 --> 00:33:21,541
little advertisements
1087
00:33:21,584 --> 00:33:23,460
in Organic Gardening magazine
1088
00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:26,713
back when there was only
1089
00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:26,713
three television stations.
1090
00:33:28,632 --> 00:33:29,759
I invented this business
1091
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:30,968
so I could buy equipment
1092
00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:33,220
for my laboratory wholesale.
1093
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,602
Amazing to me, we have
1094
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,602
nearly a hundred employees
1095
00:33:39,643 --> 00:33:42,688
and thousands
1096
00:33:39,643 --> 00:33:42,688
of media outlets.
1097
00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:46,191
These mushrooms
1098
00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:46,191
were so powerful to me
1099
00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:49,569
that I realized that
1100
00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:49,569
I wanted to study them.
1101
00:33:49,612 --> 00:33:52,489
This mushroom that's known as
1102
00:33:49,612 --> 00:33:52,489
reishi, or lingzhi,
1103
00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,784
the mushroom
1104
00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,784
of immortality.
1105
00:33:54,825 --> 00:33:57,536
And it's one of the most amazing
1106
00:33:54,825 --> 00:33:57,536
and interesting mushrooms
1107
00:33:57,577 --> 00:33:59,413
that we've ever grown.
1108
00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:04,585
This mushroom helps the immunity
1109
00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:04,585
of not only people, but bees.
1110
00:34:17,514 --> 00:34:18,807
Up this hill here,
1111
00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:20,559
we have a quarter section
1112
00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:20,559
of property,
1113
00:34:20,601 --> 00:34:22,059
160 acres,
1114
00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:25,230
and we have a large
1115
00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:25,230
mycological experiment.
1116
00:34:26,148 --> 00:34:27,858
We planted 33,000 trees,
1117
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,152
half with mycorrhizal fungi
1118
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,152
attached to the roots,
1119
00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:31,193
half without,
1120
00:34:31,235 --> 00:34:33,864
and this is year nine.
1121
00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:36,574
So, we are putting into
1122
00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:36,574
an Excel spreadsheet,
1123
00:34:36,617 --> 00:34:39,077
or have put in
1124
00:34:36,617 --> 00:34:39,077
1,100 trees
1125
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,496
to compare the treatments.
1126
00:34:41,538 --> 00:34:42,914
I came into a chunk of change
1127
00:34:42,956 --> 00:34:45,793
from licensing one
1128
00:34:42,956 --> 00:34:45,793
of my patents,
1129
00:34:45,835 --> 00:34:48,503
and so when the political
1130
00:34:45,835 --> 00:34:48,503
climate of the United States
1131
00:34:48,545 --> 00:34:51,047
changed to be adverse
1132
00:34:48,545 --> 00:34:51,047
to environmentalists,
1133
00:34:51,088 --> 00:34:52,675
we bought land in Canada.
1134
00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:00,056
[Pollan] I think the fact
1135
00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:00,056
that he didn't come up on
1136
00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:00,056
a conventional academic pathway
1137
00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:01,557
is part of the reason
1138
00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:01,557
he's as willing
1139
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,143
to really explore
1140
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,143
ideas that...
1141
00:35:03,184 --> 00:35:05,521
are not on anyone
1142
00:35:03,184 --> 00:35:05,521
else's radar.
1143
00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:10,275
[P. Stamets] I'm really honored
1144
00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:10,275
that I discovered a few things
1145
00:35:10,317 --> 00:35:12,443
that no one else
1146
00:35:10,317 --> 00:35:12,443
had yet discovered.
1147
00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:16,197
So, I have now five patents
1148
00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:16,197
on entomopathogenic fungi.
1149
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,074
These are fungi
1150
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,074
that infect insects,
1151
00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:20,994
and in particular,
1152
00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:20,994
termites.
1153
00:35:21,036 --> 00:35:23,246
The biggest problem in
1154
00:35:21,036 --> 00:35:23,246
the commercialization
1155
00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,289
of biopesticides
1156
00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,289
from fungi
1157
00:35:25,331 --> 00:35:27,668
has been the spore
1158
00:35:25,331 --> 00:35:27,668
repellency property.
1159
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:30,545
The insects avoid the spores
1160
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:30,545
of these fungi.
1161
00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:32,463
In fact,
1162
00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:32,463
so concerned are termites
1163
00:35:32,505 --> 00:35:34,215
that if a worker goes out
1164
00:35:32,505 --> 00:35:34,215
and encounters this fungus,
1165
00:35:34,257 --> 00:35:36,552
when the worker
1166
00:35:34,257 --> 00:35:36,552
returns back to the nest,
1167
00:35:36,592 --> 00:35:38,512
guards, they'll
1168
00:35:36,592 --> 00:35:38,512
capture that worker
1169
00:35:38,554 --> 00:35:40,137
that's infected
1170
00:35:38,554 --> 00:35:40,137
with these spores,
1171
00:35:40,179 --> 00:35:41,764
take the worker
1172
00:35:40,179 --> 00:35:41,764
to a graveyard,
1173
00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:44,893
and they cut off
1174
00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:44,893
the worker's head,
1175
00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:46,936
and then the two guards
1176
00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:46,936
commit suicide.
1177
00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:48,813
They're trying to protect
1178
00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:48,813
the queen and the nest
1179
00:35:48,856 --> 00:35:50,606
and the colony
1180
00:35:48,856 --> 00:35:50,606
from infection.
1181
00:35:50,648 --> 00:35:53,360
And I discovered something
1182
00:35:50,648 --> 00:35:53,360
that no one else
1183
00:35:53,402 --> 00:35:55,195
had ever reported in the
1184
00:35:53,402 --> 00:35:55,195
scientific literature.
1185
00:35:55,237 --> 00:35:58,574
I found a biological switch
1186
00:35:55,237 --> 00:35:58,574
that delayed sporulation,
1187
00:35:58,614 --> 00:36:01,451
and then the insects
1188
00:35:58,614 --> 00:36:01,451
were not repelled.
1189
00:36:01,492 --> 00:36:03,536
But they were
1190
00:36:01,492 --> 00:36:03,536
super attracted,
1191
00:36:03,579 --> 00:36:06,789
which means one finds the
1192
00:36:03,579 --> 00:36:06,789
fungus now, and others follow,
1193
00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:08,708
and it ends up
1194
00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:08,708
being a Trojan horse.
1195
00:36:08,751 --> 00:36:11,670
The same fungi now are taken
1196
00:36:08,751 --> 00:36:11,670
past the guards,
1197
00:36:11,711 --> 00:36:14,923
given to the queen, the queen
1198
00:36:11,711 --> 00:36:14,923
feeds it to the brood.
1199
00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:17,800
The whole colony becomes
1200
00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:17,800
mummified with this mycelium,
1201
00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:22,472
and, whoosh! The whole colony
1202
00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:22,472
is infected and dies.
1203
00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:24,682
And then the spore
1204
00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:24,682
repellency properties
1205
00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:27,309
protects your house
1206
00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:27,309
from subsequent invasions.
1207
00:36:27,351 --> 00:36:29,521
This is a huge discovery.
1208
00:36:29,563 --> 00:36:31,231
And then I tried it
1209
00:36:29,563 --> 00:36:31,231
with carpenter ants,
1210
00:36:31,273 --> 00:36:33,442
with fire ants,
1211
00:36:31,273 --> 00:36:33,442
fungus gnats,
1212
00:36:33,483 --> 00:36:34,943
and then mosquitoes,
1213
00:36:34,985 --> 00:36:36,778
and now we're working
1214
00:36:34,985 --> 00:36:36,778
with bed bugs,
1215
00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:39,655
and we've had successes
1216
00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:39,655
across the board.
1217
00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:49,331
The entire ecosystem
1218
00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:49,331
is infused with fungi.
1219
00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:53,753
So, I see these deep reservoirs
1220
00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:53,753
of the ecology all around us.
1221
00:37:01,552 --> 00:37:03,429
[narrator]
1222
00:37:01,552 --> 00:37:03,429
In a world of invention,
1223
00:37:03,472 --> 00:37:05,431
the answer to
1224
00:37:03,472 --> 00:37:05,431
our greatest problems
1225
00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:09,268
may be hiding right
1226
00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:09,268
under our feet.
1227
00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:11,730
[Bone] There are mushrooms
1228
00:37:11,771 --> 00:37:14,315
that have been used
1229
00:37:11,771 --> 00:37:14,315
in Western medicine.
1230
00:37:14,356 --> 00:37:16,068
Penicillin, for example,
1231
00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:19,695
is a really effective
1232
00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:19,695
antibiotic.
1233
00:37:19,737 --> 00:37:22,115
Before it was synthesized,
1234
00:37:19,737 --> 00:37:22,115
during the Civil War,
1235
00:37:22,157 --> 00:37:24,659
when a soldier
1236
00:37:22,157 --> 00:37:24,659
would get wounded,
1237
00:37:24,701 --> 00:37:27,536
they would slap a piece of
1238
00:37:24,701 --> 00:37:27,536
moldy bread on his wound
1239
00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:31,208
to benefit from those
1240
00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:31,208
antibiotic properties,
1241
00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:33,085
so he wouldn't get
1242
00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:33,085
an infection.
1243
00:37:35,003 --> 00:37:38,965
[P. Stamets] Alexander Fleming
1244
00:37:35,003 --> 00:37:38,965
discovered penicillin in 1927.
1245
00:37:39,007 --> 00:37:40,134
The problem was that
1246
00:37:40,175 --> 00:37:41,467
they couldn't find strains
1247
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:42,885
that could be
1248
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:42,885
commercialized,
1249
00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,471
that could produce
1250
00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,471
enough of it
1251
00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:46,222
in a commercially
1252
00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:46,222
economic fashion.
1253
00:37:47,182 --> 00:37:48,432
We fast forward,
1254
00:37:48,474 --> 00:37:50,226
and in 1942,
1255
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:53,188
a group of researchers
1256
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:53,188
in Chicago went shopping,
1257
00:37:53,230 --> 00:37:55,940
and a lab assistant found
1258
00:37:53,230 --> 00:37:55,940
a cantaloupe that was rotting
1259
00:37:55,983 --> 00:37:58,275
with a beautiful
1260
00:37:55,983 --> 00:37:58,275
golden mold,
1261
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,155
and from that strain,
1262
00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:05,784
we got the first
1263
00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:05,784
hyper-producing
1264
00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:05,784
strain of penicillium.
1265
00:38:07,786 --> 00:38:09,286
Penicillin literally saved
1266
00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:12,248
tens of thousands
1267
00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:12,248
of soldiers' lives.
1268
00:38:12,289 --> 00:38:13,833
The Brits had this,
1269
00:38:13,876 --> 00:38:16,335
but the Germans and
1270
00:38:13,876 --> 00:38:16,335
the Japanese did not.
1271
00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,422
It's been suggested
1272
00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,422
that the discovery
1273
00:38:20,465 --> 00:38:22,509
of this hyper-producing
1274
00:38:20,465 --> 00:38:22,509
strain of penicillin
1275
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:25,512
was a significant influence
1276
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:25,512
in winning World War II.
1277
00:38:25,554 --> 00:38:29,016
Alexander Fleming then received
1278
00:38:25,554 --> 00:38:29,016
the Nobel Prize in 1945,
1279
00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:31,518
in recognition
1280
00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:31,518
of the huge impact
1281
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,146
that penicillin had
1282
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,146
on human health.
1283
00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:45,782
[Bone] Here's how medicinal
1284
00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:45,782
mushrooms are thought to work:
1285
00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:49,577
A fungus will produce
1286
00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:49,577
all kinds of enzymes--
1287
00:38:49,619 --> 00:38:51,538
it's like
1288
00:38:49,619 --> 00:38:51,538
a chemical warfare--
1289
00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:54,623
in order to fight off
1290
00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:54,623
competition for food,
1291
00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:56,710
like other microbes,
1292
00:38:56,751 --> 00:39:00,297
other fungi,
1293
00:38:56,751 --> 00:39:00,297
bacteria, virus.
1294
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,550
That's what makes
1295
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,550
antibiotics work.
1296
00:39:03,592 --> 00:39:06,219
Chemicals that are
1297
00:39:03,592 --> 00:39:06,219
produced by fungus,
1298
00:39:06,262 --> 00:39:08,889
like the one that
1299
00:39:06,262 --> 00:39:08,889
penicillin is made from,
1300
00:39:08,931 --> 00:39:10,347
the fungus produces it
1301
00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:12,684
to kill bacteria
1302
00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:12,684
that are competition,
1303
00:39:12,726 --> 00:39:17,355
and when we take penicillin,
1304
00:39:12,726 --> 00:39:17,355
it kills our bacteria.
1305
00:39:17,396 --> 00:39:19,648
[Weil] There's a long tradition
1306
00:39:17,396 --> 00:39:19,648
of using mushrooms
1307
00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:21,735
as medicines in East Asia,
1308
00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:24,487
especially in Korea,
1309
00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:24,487
China, and Japan.
1310
00:39:24,528 --> 00:39:27,032
They appear to
1311
00:39:24,528 --> 00:39:27,032
be able to enhance
1312
00:39:27,074 --> 00:39:31,202
and protect the body's innate
1313
00:39:27,074 --> 00:39:31,202
defensive mechanisms.
1314
00:39:31,244 --> 00:39:33,371
The uses for them fill niches
1315
00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:36,666
for which we really
1316
00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:36,666
don't have anything
1317
00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:36,666
in Western pharmacology.
1318
00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:38,751
In Western medicine,
1319
00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:38,751
all of our effort
1320
00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:41,420
is on identifying
1321
00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:41,420
agents of disease
1322
00:39:41,463 --> 00:39:42,797
and eliminating them.
1323
00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:43,882
That has its place,
1324
00:39:43,923 --> 00:39:45,134
but we do almost nothing
1325
00:39:45,175 --> 00:39:46,927
about supporting the good.
1326
00:39:51,264 --> 00:39:53,934
[P. Stamets]
1327
00:39:51,264 --> 00:39:53,934
Shamans would treat patients
1328
00:39:53,976 --> 00:39:55,768
and the diseases
1329
00:39:53,976 --> 00:39:55,768
were thought to be
1330
00:39:55,811 --> 00:39:58,646
elements of
1331
00:39:55,811 --> 00:39:58,646
the spirit world.
1332
00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:01,275
Well, physicians today
1333
00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:01,275
treat infections,
1334
00:40:01,317 --> 00:40:03,568
and their spirits
1335
00:40:01,317 --> 00:40:03,568
are bacteria,
1336
00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:05,820
or a pathogenic,
1337
00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:05,820
or viruses.
1338
00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:08,157
So, whether the shamans
1339
00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:08,157
called them spirits
1340
00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:11,327
or whether the scientists
1341
00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:11,327
call them microbes,
1342
00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:13,244
with the invention
1343
00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:13,244
of microscopes
1344
00:40:13,286 --> 00:40:16,081
we get to see the microscopic
1345
00:40:13,286 --> 00:40:16,081
universe and landscape
1346
00:40:16,123 --> 00:40:20,043
that we thunder upon
1347
00:40:16,123 --> 00:40:20,043
with every footstep.
1348
00:40:20,085 --> 00:40:22,420
The fact that
1349
00:40:20,085 --> 00:40:22,420
these fungal networks
1350
00:40:22,461 --> 00:40:23,838
are seemingly invisible,
1351
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,047
but then represent themselves
1352
00:40:25,090 --> 00:40:26,382
in a big flourishing mushroom
1353
00:40:26,423 --> 00:40:28,010
in a matter of a few days,
1354
00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,971
give us a window into
1355
00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,971
the invisible landscape
1356
00:40:31,012 --> 00:40:32,554
underneath our feet.
1357
00:40:49,072 --> 00:40:50,782
Fungal networks
1358
00:40:49,072 --> 00:40:50,782
have defended themselves
1359
00:40:50,824 --> 00:40:53,952
against vectors of disease
1360
00:40:50,824 --> 00:40:53,952
for millions of years.
1361
00:40:53,994 --> 00:40:57,579
Viral pandemics
1362
00:40:53,994 --> 00:40:57,579
occur periodically.
1363
00:40:57,621 --> 00:41:00,876
Between 1347 and 1353,
1364
00:41:00,916 --> 00:41:03,753
one-third of the
1365
00:41:00,916 --> 00:41:03,753
European population died
1366
00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:05,547
from the black plague.
1367
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,550
The great flu pandemic
1368
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,550
of 1918,
1369
00:41:09,592 --> 00:41:12,012
two percent of
1370
00:41:09,592 --> 00:41:12,012
the world population died.
1371
00:41:12,054 --> 00:41:14,181
Millions upon millions
1372
00:41:12,054 --> 00:41:14,181
of people.
1373
00:41:15,764 --> 00:41:19,353
I think everyone is aware
1374
00:41:15,764 --> 00:41:19,353
of the threat of bioterrorism,
1375
00:41:19,394 --> 00:41:21,563
but few people
1376
00:41:19,394 --> 00:41:21,563
may know that
1377
00:41:21,603 --> 00:41:23,898
Europeans were
1378
00:41:21,603 --> 00:41:23,898
actively involved,
1379
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:25,650
consciously
1380
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:25,650
or unconsciously,
1381
00:41:25,692 --> 00:41:27,735
in bioterrorism against
1382
00:41:25,692 --> 00:41:27,735
indigenous peoples,
1383
00:41:27,777 --> 00:41:31,239
especially in the New World,
1384
00:41:27,777 --> 00:41:31,239
in Meso-America.
1385
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,907
They brought in diseases,
1386
00:41:32,949 --> 00:41:34,326
and when you're extremely sick,
1387
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:36,411
you can't fight off an invader.
1388
00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:39,664
It's an irony
1389
00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:39,664
of history that now,
1390
00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:41,416
the US government
1391
00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:41,416
is interested
1392
00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:44,501
in protecting people
1393
00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:44,501
from viral pandemics.
1394
00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:46,838
[reporter] Paul Stamets
1395
00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:46,838
cultured numerous strains
1396
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,215
in his lab, and prepared
1397
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,215
natural extract.
1398
00:41:49,257 --> 00:41:51,175
He then submitted samples
1399
00:41:51,217 --> 00:41:54,721
to the Defense Department's
1400
00:41:51,217 --> 00:41:54,721
BioShield program for testing.
1401
00:41:54,762 --> 00:41:55,804
[P. Stamets] And ironically,
1402
00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:57,099
I have a debt of gratitude
1403
00:41:57,139 --> 00:41:59,726
to Dick Cheney
1404
00:41:57,139 --> 00:41:59,726
and George W. Bush.
1405
00:41:59,768 --> 00:42:02,561
It is vital that our nation
1406
00:41:59,768 --> 00:42:02,561
discuss and address the threat
1407
00:42:02,603 --> 00:42:04,481
of pandemic flu now.
1408
00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,108
[P. Stamets]
1409
00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,108
Their funding of that research
1410
00:42:06,148 --> 00:42:07,817
led to some very
1411
00:42:06,148 --> 00:42:07,817
novel discoveries,
1412
00:42:07,858 --> 00:42:11,487
to which we're still
1413
00:42:07,858 --> 00:42:11,487
elaborating today.
1414
00:42:11,528 --> 00:42:13,197
And what we know about these
1415
00:42:11,528 --> 00:42:13,197
mycelium networks
1416
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,324
is they're learning membranes.
1417
00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:18,202
They are self-learning
1418
00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:18,202
and network-based organisms
1419
00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:21,039
that can share
1420
00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:21,039
and store knowledge.
1421
00:42:21,081 --> 00:42:23,208
The mycelium
1422
00:42:21,081 --> 00:42:23,208
is vaccinating itself
1423
00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:26,001
against pathogens
1424
00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:26,001
in the ecosystem.
1425
00:42:26,043 --> 00:42:27,586
We can capitalize on this
1426
00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:29,755
because many of the
1427
00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:29,755
same bacterial pathogens
1428
00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:33,675
that infect fungi,
1429
00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:33,675
also can infect animals.
1430
00:42:33,717 --> 00:42:34,969
We have found novel molecules
1431
00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:37,347
highly active
1432
00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:37,347
against pox viruses,
1433
00:42:37,389 --> 00:42:38,681
novel molecules highly active
1434
00:42:38,722 --> 00:42:42,184
against HPV,
1435
00:42:38,722 --> 00:42:42,184
the human papillomavirus.
1436
00:42:42,226 --> 00:42:44,561
Many scientists are
1437
00:42:42,226 --> 00:42:44,561
trying to come up
1438
00:42:44,603 --> 00:42:47,856
with the next antibiotic,
1439
00:42:44,603 --> 00:42:47,856
the next penicillin,
1440
00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:50,318
but we have barely tapped
1441
00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:50,318
into the fungal genome,
1442
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,780
especially the
1443
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,780
mushroom form of fungi.
1444
00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:58,452
Think of it: our old-growth
1445
00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:58,452
forests that contain
1446
00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:58,452
these ancient fungi
1447
00:42:58,494 --> 00:43:00,369
are deep reservoirs
1448
00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:03,581
of potential compounds that
1449
00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:03,581
can fight pandemic viruses.
1450
00:43:03,623 --> 00:43:08,210
We should save
1451
00:43:03,623 --> 00:43:08,210
the old-growth forest as
1452
00:43:03,623 --> 00:43:08,210
a matter of national defense.
1453
00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:21,099
[Weil] I recommend mushrooms
1454
00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:21,099
and mushroom products
1455
00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:21,099
frequently to patients
1456
00:43:21,141 --> 00:43:24,643
and I teach other doctors
1457
00:43:21,141 --> 00:43:24,643
about their uses.
1458
00:43:24,686 --> 00:43:28,148
Mushrooms have molecules
1459
00:43:24,686 --> 00:43:28,148
not found elsewhere in nature.
1460
00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:30,775
There're some that have
1461
00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:30,775
totally unusual properties
1462
00:43:30,817 --> 00:43:34,070
like Lion's Mane mushroom.
1463
00:43:34,112 --> 00:43:35,780
[P. Stamets]
1464
00:43:34,112 --> 00:43:35,780
The Lion's Mane mushroom
1465
00:43:35,822 --> 00:43:38,867
is a globular cascading
1466
00:43:35,822 --> 00:43:38,867
icicle-formed mushroom.
1467
00:43:38,907 --> 00:43:40,952
Tastes like lobster
1468
00:43:38,907 --> 00:43:40,952
or shrimp when you cook it,
1469
00:43:40,994 --> 00:43:44,246
but a researcher in Japan
1470
00:43:40,994 --> 00:43:44,246
by the name of Kara-Jishi
1471
00:43:44,289 --> 00:43:46,623
discovered in around 1993,
1472
00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:49,418
and I don't have the foggiest
1473
00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:49,418
idea how you discover this,
1474
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:54,007
but he discovered that
1475
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:54,007
this mushroom stimulates
1476
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:54,007
nerves to regrow
1477
00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:58,260
and he postulated it could
1478
00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:58,260
be an effective treatment
1479
00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:58,260
against Alzheimer's.
1480
00:43:58,302 --> 00:44:01,181
[Weil] Since we don't have
1481
00:43:58,302 --> 00:44:01,181
anything for Alzheimer's
1482
00:44:01,222 --> 00:44:04,518
and since this is nontoxic,
1483
00:44:01,222 --> 00:44:04,518
we should test it.
1484
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:07,061
Mushrooms are completely
1485
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:07,061
unusual organisms
1486
00:44:07,103 --> 00:44:08,938
and they're ignored
1487
00:44:07,103 --> 00:44:08,938
by so many people
1488
00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:11,148
and yet they're
1489
00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:11,148
a vital interface
1490
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:13,275
between all forms of life.
1491
00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:22,327
[P. Stamets] At the University
1492
00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:22,327
of Southern Florida,
1493
00:44:22,369 --> 00:44:24,829
a very interesting
1494
00:44:22,369 --> 00:44:24,829
study came out.
1495
00:44:24,871 --> 00:44:27,248
Mice were trained to have
1496
00:44:24,871 --> 00:44:27,248
a conditioned fear response
1497
00:44:27,289 --> 00:44:30,085
and so when there's a sound
1498
00:44:27,289 --> 00:44:30,085
that is associated with a pain,
1499
00:44:30,126 --> 00:44:31,460
later on when they
1500
00:44:30,126 --> 00:44:31,460
just heard the sound,
1501
00:44:31,503 --> 00:44:33,045
they cowered in fear.
1502
00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:37,634
When they treated the mice
1503
00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:37,634
with psilocybin,
1504
00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:39,885
the compound
1505
00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:39,885
of magic mushrooms,
1506
00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:42,347
the mice dissociated
1507
00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:42,347
that link.
1508
00:44:42,389 --> 00:44:45,641
The mice overcame the
1509
00:44:42,389 --> 00:44:45,641
fear-conditioned response.
1510
00:44:45,682 --> 00:44:47,436
[Sanchez-Ramos]
1511
00:44:45,682 --> 00:44:47,436
We started with very low doses
1512
00:44:47,476 --> 00:44:50,355
to as high a dose as
1513
00:44:47,476 --> 00:44:50,355
one milligram per kilogram.
1514
00:44:50,396 --> 00:44:51,981
Now what was interesting,
1515
00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:53,942
if you look
1516
00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:53,942
at double-labeled cells,
1517
00:44:53,983 --> 00:44:55,318
in other words,
1518
00:44:53,983 --> 00:44:55,318
the birth of new neurons,
1519
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,239
we saw an increase
1520
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,239
in neurogenesis.
1521
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,032
Neurogenesis literally means
1522
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,032
"neuro" for nerves
1523
00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:05,077
and "genesis,"
1524
00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:05,077
rebirth or beginning of.
1525
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,038
The regrowing of neurons.
1526
00:45:09,541 --> 00:45:13,710
They were not using the same
1527
00:45:09,541 --> 00:45:13,710
neurological pathways
1528
00:45:09,541 --> 00:45:13,710
they have in the past.
1529
00:45:13,753 --> 00:45:15,505
This is really exciting
1530
00:45:15,547 --> 00:45:19,217
because it means that the brain
1531
00:45:15,547 --> 00:45:19,217
has a plasticity about it,
1532
00:45:19,259 --> 00:45:21,594
is able to heal,
1533
00:45:19,259 --> 00:45:21,594
is able to grow.
1534
00:45:21,637 --> 00:45:23,804
It just needs
1535
00:45:21,637 --> 00:45:23,804
the right compounds
1536
00:45:23,846 --> 00:45:27,016
to help it develop new
1537
00:45:23,846 --> 00:45:27,016
neurological pathways.
1538
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:29,893
We're all getting older.
1539
00:45:29,936 --> 00:45:32,021
We'll all suffer some
1540
00:45:29,936 --> 00:45:32,021
degree of dementia.
1541
00:45:36,485 --> 00:45:38,402
What compounds can we take
1542
00:45:38,445 --> 00:45:41,697
that enhances and
1543
00:45:38,445 --> 00:45:41,697
preserves neurogenesis?
1544
00:45:45,867 --> 00:45:47,536
I know many, many people
1545
00:45:47,579 --> 00:45:50,581
who would not dare take
1546
00:45:47,579 --> 00:45:50,581
a psilocybin mushroom trip,
1547
00:45:50,623 --> 00:45:54,085
but the concept of them taking
1548
00:45:50,623 --> 00:45:54,085
one 50th of a dose,
1549
00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:57,088
something like that,
1550
00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:57,088
and it causes neurogenesis
1551
00:45:57,130 --> 00:45:59,965
that might make them smarter,
1552
00:45:57,130 --> 00:45:59,965
or in a better mood, or happier?
1553
00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:02,385
That's a whole
1554
00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:02,385
different subject.
1555
00:46:05,847 --> 00:46:09,809
[narrator] We are on
1556
00:46:05,847 --> 00:46:09,809
a never-ending search
1557
00:46:05,847 --> 00:46:09,809
for partners,
1558
00:46:11,059 --> 00:46:13,855
life-affirming relationships,
1559
00:46:16,231 --> 00:46:18,150
or at the very least,
1560
00:46:18,193 --> 00:46:22,447
nourishment for the
1561
00:46:18,193 --> 00:46:22,447
next leg of our journey.
1562
00:46:22,489 --> 00:46:26,534
We have flourished
1563
00:46:22,489 --> 00:46:26,534
side by side with your species
1564
00:46:26,576 --> 00:46:30,829
symbiotically
1565
00:46:26,576 --> 00:46:30,829
for centuries.
1566
00:46:33,416 --> 00:46:35,210
[Harman]
1567
00:46:33,416 --> 00:46:35,210
Many shamanic cultures
1568
00:46:35,251 --> 00:46:37,253
relied on mushrooms
1569
00:46:37,295 --> 00:46:39,838
for their transcendental
1570
00:46:37,295 --> 00:46:39,838
experiences.
1571
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,344
This is pre-religion
1572
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,344
all over the world.
1573
00:46:44,385 --> 00:46:46,929
It was all about
1574
00:46:44,385 --> 00:46:46,929
the individual's connection
1575
00:46:46,971 --> 00:46:48,472
to the spiritual world,
1576
00:46:48,514 --> 00:46:52,809
or the mystery that is
1577
00:46:48,514 --> 00:46:52,809
our context for living.
1578
00:46:56,105 --> 00:46:58,940
These are ancient artifacts
1579
00:46:56,105 --> 00:46:58,940
from the Mayan culture.
1580
00:46:58,983 --> 00:47:01,068
These are called
1581
00:46:58,983 --> 00:47:01,068
mushroom stones.
1582
00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:02,612
This may be
1583
00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:02,612
the largest collection
1584
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:04,614
of mushroom stones
1585
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:04,614
in the world.
1586
00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:07,242
The Mayan culture
1587
00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:07,242
was very mycophillic
1588
00:47:07,282 --> 00:47:10,327
and they revered mushroom
1589
00:47:07,282 --> 00:47:10,327
stones for divination,
1590
00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:12,621
for spirituality.
1591
00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:15,291
Also to be able
1592
00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:15,291
to predict incoming armies,
1593
00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:17,418
and how to strategize
1594
00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:17,418
against them.
1595
00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:30,889
A great ethnomycologist by
1596
00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:30,889
the name of R. Gordon Wasson
1597
00:47:30,931 --> 00:47:33,351
came up with the phrase
1598
00:47:30,931 --> 00:47:33,351
mycophilia,
1599
00:47:33,393 --> 00:47:35,686
the love of mushrooms
1600
00:47:33,393 --> 00:47:35,686
that the Mayans shared.
1601
00:47:35,728 --> 00:47:37,773
Mycophobia
1602
00:47:35,728 --> 00:47:37,773
is a classically--
1603
00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:39,940
the English
1604
00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:39,940
had a fear of mushrooms
1605
00:47:39,981 --> 00:47:41,943
because they're enigmatic.
1606
00:47:41,983 --> 00:47:44,027
You know, these mushrooms
1607
00:47:41,983 --> 00:47:44,027
can get you high,
1608
00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:46,782
they can heal you,
1609
00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:46,782
they can feed you,
1610
00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:46,782
they can kill you.
1611
00:47:46,822 --> 00:47:50,284
And so that which is so powerful
1612
00:47:46,822 --> 00:47:50,284
is naturally feared.
1613
00:47:50,326 --> 00:47:52,369
[Nicholas Cozzi] Wasson was
1614
00:47:50,326 --> 00:47:52,369
an amateur mycologist,
1615
00:47:52,411 --> 00:47:54,871
a person who
1616
00:47:52,411 --> 00:47:54,871
studies mushrooms
1617
00:47:54,914 --> 00:48:01,503
and was invited to participate
1618
00:47:54,914 --> 00:48:01,503
in a ceremony by a curandera,
1619
00:48:01,545 --> 00:48:04,757
Maria Sabina in 1955.
1620
00:48:05,634 --> 00:48:07,760
He took these mushrooms
1621
00:48:07,802 --> 00:48:11,139
and had
1622
00:48:07,802 --> 00:48:11,139
a psychedelic experience...
1623
00:48:13,056 --> 00:48:15,434
[P. Stamets] And when
1624
00:48:13,056 --> 00:48:15,434
R. Gordon Wasson came
1625
00:48:13,056 --> 00:48:15,434
out with this research
1626
00:48:15,476 --> 00:48:18,688
that was published
1627
00:48:15,476 --> 00:48:18,688
in Life magazine in 1957...
1628
00:48:20,856 --> 00:48:24,693
that was basically a field
1629
00:48:20,856 --> 00:48:24,693
guide to psilocybin mushrooms
1630
00:48:24,735 --> 00:48:27,447
delivered to tens of
1631
00:48:24,735 --> 00:48:27,447
millions of Americans
1632
00:48:27,489 --> 00:48:31,576
on their doorstep, during
1633
00:48:27,489 --> 00:48:31,576
the peak of the Cold War.
1634
00:48:31,617 --> 00:48:34,496
This then was quickly noticed
1635
00:48:31,617 --> 00:48:34,496
by academics at Harvard
1636
00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:39,250
and other Ivy League schools
1637
00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:39,250
and then the cognoscenti,
1638
00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:45,757
including Timothy Leary,
1639
00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:45,757
Ram Dass, and Dr. Andrew Weil.
1640
00:48:45,798 --> 00:48:48,092
Why do mushrooms
1641
00:48:45,798 --> 00:48:48,092
produce molecules
1642
00:48:48,134 --> 00:48:51,012
that fit receptors in
1643
00:48:48,134 --> 00:48:51,012
the human brain and body?
1644
00:48:51,052 --> 00:48:53,389
What does that say?
1645
00:48:51,052 --> 00:48:53,389
What does that mean?
1646
00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:56,768
I mean, does that mean
1647
00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:56,768
that we're supposed to
1648
00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:56,768
be using these things?
1649
00:48:56,809 --> 00:49:00,021
Psychedelics during
1650
00:48:56,809 --> 00:49:00,021
the '50s and '60s
1651
00:49:00,061 --> 00:49:02,440
were the cutting edge
1652
00:49:00,061 --> 00:49:02,440
of psychiatric research.
1653
00:49:02,481 --> 00:49:04,317
There were remarkable studies
1654
00:49:04,358 --> 00:49:08,780
with very, very
1655
00:49:04,358 --> 00:49:08,780
promising findings.
1656
00:49:08,822 --> 00:49:12,949
[Ross] Psychedelics became part
1657
00:49:08,822 --> 00:49:12,949
of research in psychiatry
1658
00:49:08,822 --> 00:49:12,949
for 30 years.
1659
00:49:12,992 --> 00:49:16,579
and there were several
1660
00:49:12,992 --> 00:49:16,579
very interesting indications
1661
00:49:12,992 --> 00:49:16,579
that they were researched.
1662
00:49:16,621 --> 00:49:19,708
The best data was actually
1663
00:49:16,621 --> 00:49:19,708
for alcoholism.
1664
00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:22,460
[Grob] We found that having
1665
00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:22,460
a mystical experience
1666
00:49:22,501 --> 00:49:24,211
during the course
1667
00:49:22,501 --> 00:49:24,211
of one session
1668
00:49:24,253 --> 00:49:27,548
was the strongest predictor
1669
00:49:24,253 --> 00:49:27,548
of positive outcome,
1670
00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:31,887
meaning maintaining sobriety
1671
00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:31,887
over the long follow-up period.
1672
00:49:31,927 --> 00:49:34,597
It was very impressive.
1673
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,349
[Pollan]
1674
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,349
Some of these drugs,
1675
00:49:36,391 --> 00:49:38,893
they had "escaped the lab,"
1676
00:49:36,391 --> 00:49:38,893
as the phrase goes.
1677
00:49:40,101 --> 00:49:42,313
Millions of people
1678
00:49:40,101 --> 00:49:42,313
were using them
1679
00:49:42,355 --> 00:49:44,065
and you have to realize
1680
00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:47,568
that this was a radical force
1681
00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:47,568
unleashed in the West.
1682
00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,327
[Timothy Leary] The kids who
1683
00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,327
take psychedelics aren't
1684
00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,327
going to fight your wars.
1685
00:49:57,369 --> 00:49:59,371
They're not going to join
1686
00:49:57,369 --> 00:49:59,371
your corporations,
1687
00:49:59,414 --> 00:50:01,331
they won't buy it.
1688
00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:04,376
[Bill Richards]
1689
00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:04,376
A lot was going on
1690
00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:04,376
back in the '60s.
1691
00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:07,963
It was a time of
1692
00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:07,963
rapid cultural change.
1693
00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:10,925
There was irrational fears
1694
00:50:10,967 --> 00:50:14,177
about too much
1695
00:50:10,967 --> 00:50:14,177
cultural change too fast.
1696
00:50:14,219 --> 00:50:17,389
President Nixon
1697
00:50:14,219 --> 00:50:17,389
called Timothy Leary
1698
00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:19,893
the most dangerous man
1699
00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:19,893
in America.
1700
00:50:19,934 --> 00:50:22,686
We must wage what
1701
00:50:19,934 --> 00:50:22,686
I have called total war
1702
00:50:22,728 --> 00:50:25,940
against public enemy number one
1703
00:50:22,728 --> 00:50:25,940
in the United States,
1704
00:50:25,981 --> 00:50:28,025
the problem
1705
00:50:25,981 --> 00:50:28,025
with dangerous drugs.
1706
00:50:30,778 --> 00:50:32,822
When everyone says
1707
00:50:30,778 --> 00:50:32,822
"shrooms" to me,
1708
00:50:32,864 --> 00:50:34,699
it invokes this whole idea
1709
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:37,409
of using psilocybin mushrooms
1710
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:37,409
as a party drug,
1711
00:50:37,452 --> 00:50:41,079
They are so much more important
1712
00:50:37,452 --> 00:50:41,079
than just getting high.
1713
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,505
The movement to marginalize
1714
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,505
the major psychedelics
1715
00:50:49,547 --> 00:50:51,172
is incredibly complex.
1716
00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:54,635
I mean, it plugged into
1717
00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:54,635
a counterculture movement,
1718
00:50:54,677 --> 00:51:00,307
an anti-war movement,
1719
00:50:54,677 --> 00:51:00,307
an anti-establishment movement.
1720
00:51:00,349 --> 00:51:04,061
There are many, many forces
1721
00:51:00,349 --> 00:51:04,061
that were at play.
1722
00:51:11,152 --> 00:51:13,237
[Richards]
1723
00:51:11,152 --> 00:51:13,237
Somehow the fuse blew
1724
00:51:13,278 --> 00:51:15,572
and one of the victims was
1725
00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:19,494
the medical research
1726
00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:19,494
with psychedelics.
1727
00:51:19,534 --> 00:51:24,414
There was a very irrational
1728
00:51:19,534 --> 00:51:24,414
and anti-scientific climate
1729
00:51:24,456 --> 00:51:27,543
that was fueled even
1730
00:51:24,456 --> 00:51:27,543
in government pamphlets,
1731
00:51:27,585 --> 00:51:30,211
really had
1732
00:51:27,585 --> 00:51:30,211
distorted information
1733
00:51:30,253 --> 00:51:33,507
that was not
1734
00:51:30,253 --> 00:51:33,507
scientifically accurate.
1735
00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:37,846
It was a bad trip,
1736
00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:37,846
instant insanity.
1737
00:51:39,972 --> 00:51:42,766
[Ross] The research came
1738
00:51:39,972 --> 00:51:42,766
to a halt in 1970.
1739
00:51:42,809 --> 00:51:44,434
War was declared on drugs.
1740
00:51:44,476 --> 00:51:46,561
The Controlled Substances
1741
00:51:44,476 --> 00:51:46,561
Act was passed
1742
00:51:46,603 --> 00:51:48,563
and the research
1743
00:51:46,603 --> 00:51:48,563
essentially was erased
1744
00:51:48,606 --> 00:51:51,693
from being taught
1745
00:51:48,606 --> 00:51:51,693
in psychiatry.
1746
00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:55,362
[Richards]
1747
00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:55,362
I think I may have the dubious
1748
00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:55,362
distinction of being the last
1749
00:51:55,403 --> 00:51:59,199
to give psilocybin
1750
00:51:55,403 --> 00:51:59,199
to a cancer patient
1751
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,786
at the Maryland
1752
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,786
Psychiatric Research Center.
1753
00:52:02,829 --> 00:52:06,081
And then the research
1754
00:52:02,829 --> 00:52:06,081
became completely dormant.
1755
00:52:10,753 --> 00:52:13,505
In our evolution
1756
00:52:10,753 --> 00:52:13,505
as a species,
1757
00:52:13,547 --> 00:52:15,884
we're at a point
1758
00:52:13,547 --> 00:52:15,884
of coming to terms
1759
00:52:15,925 --> 00:52:19,594
with a major paradigm change.
1760
00:52:19,637 --> 00:52:24,224
A change in how we view
1761
00:52:19,637 --> 00:52:24,224
what we call reality.
1762
00:52:27,978 --> 00:52:34,275
And that always evokes
1763
00:52:27,978 --> 00:52:34,275
tension and fears.
1764
00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:39,949
The culture wants to cling to
1765
00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:39,949
the old view of the universe.
1766
00:52:45,038 --> 00:52:47,498
[P. Stamets]
1767
00:52:45,038 --> 00:52:47,498
You realize that you've
1768
00:52:45,038 --> 00:52:47,498
been limited all this time
1769
00:52:47,539 --> 00:52:49,458
with your perspective
1770
00:52:47,539 --> 00:52:49,458
of reality.
1771
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:54,047
Had reality been known to you
1772
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:54,047
at this level early on,
1773
00:52:54,088 --> 00:52:56,882
how much more evolved
1774
00:52:54,088 --> 00:52:56,882
would we be as beings?
1775
00:52:58,217 --> 00:53:00,427
A lot of people would
1776
00:52:58,217 --> 00:53:00,427
be afraid of that.
1777
00:53:03,972 --> 00:53:06,434
This is very
1778
00:53:03,972 --> 00:53:06,434
dangerous territory.
1779
00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:10,438
People want to give up
1780
00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:10,438
the responsibility of
1781
00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:10,438
being able to understand
1782
00:53:10,478 --> 00:53:12,940
and because they
1783
00:53:10,478 --> 00:53:12,940
can't understand,
1784
00:53:10,478 --> 00:53:12,940
then they have faith.
1785
00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:16,318
and they put their faith
1786
00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:16,318
in other people who say
1787
00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:16,318
they can understand.
1788
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,237
And I think it's a situation
1789
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,282
that is ripe for
1790
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,282
a predatory relationship.
1791
00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:33,710
[Bob Jesse] Anyone who's had
1792
00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:33,710
one of those experiences
1793
00:53:33,753 --> 00:53:35,963
in a country where it's
1794
00:53:33,753 --> 00:53:35,963
not legal to have them
1795
00:53:36,005 --> 00:53:37,757
is stuck in this position
1796
00:53:37,798 --> 00:53:40,175
where something
1797
00:53:37,798 --> 00:53:40,175
really precious...
1798
00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:43,804
and really giving
1799
00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:43,804
a great gift to you
1800
00:53:43,846 --> 00:53:46,641
is not understood
1801
00:53:43,846 --> 00:53:46,641
by the culture at large
1802
00:53:46,681 --> 00:53:49,936
and furthermore, puts you or
1803
00:53:46,681 --> 00:53:49,936
other people or/and other people
1804
00:53:49,978 --> 00:53:51,686
at risk of prosecution.
1805
00:53:53,688 --> 00:53:55,190
And one response to that
1806
00:53:55,231 --> 00:53:57,400
is to get angry,
1807
00:53:57,443 --> 00:53:59,112
and to want to fight that.
1808
00:53:59,153 --> 00:54:01,155
And another response
1809
00:53:59,153 --> 00:54:01,155
to it is to say,
1810
00:54:01,197 --> 00:54:04,282
"We've just got to explain
1811
00:54:01,197 --> 00:54:04,282
to people what's going on here."
1812
00:54:04,324 --> 00:54:05,952
And when people understand it,
1813
00:54:05,994 --> 00:54:09,621
then there will be
1814
00:54:05,994 --> 00:54:09,621
accommodation and respect.
1815
00:54:11,623 --> 00:54:13,751
There are a number of elders
1816
00:54:11,623 --> 00:54:13,751
living in the Bay Area
1817
00:54:13,793 --> 00:54:15,585
who've devoted some part
1818
00:54:13,793 --> 00:54:15,585
of their career
1819
00:54:15,628 --> 00:54:18,297
in psychology
1820
00:54:15,628 --> 00:54:18,297
or religious studies
1821
00:54:18,338 --> 00:54:19,882
who ended up being invited
1822
00:54:19,923 --> 00:54:22,885
to a small invitational
1823
00:54:19,923 --> 00:54:22,885
conference at Esalen
1824
00:54:22,927 --> 00:54:26,014
called the Pacific Symposium
1825
00:54:22,927 --> 00:54:26,014
on Psychedelic Drugs.
1826
00:54:26,054 --> 00:54:28,349
As we went around the room
1827
00:54:26,054 --> 00:54:28,349
making introductions,
1828
00:54:28,389 --> 00:54:30,018
most of the people
1829
00:54:28,389 --> 00:54:30,018
who were clinicians
1830
00:54:30,059 --> 00:54:31,768
were excitedly talking about
1831
00:54:31,811 --> 00:54:33,855
what kind of clinical
1832
00:54:31,811 --> 00:54:33,855
trial they would run
1833
00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:35,940
if they could use one
1834
00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:35,940
of these substances
1835
00:54:35,981 --> 00:54:37,358
to treat PTSD...
1836
00:54:37,398 --> 00:54:40,235
or to treat depression.
1837
00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:42,780
[Richards] We wrote
1838
00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:42,780
the best design we could.
1839
00:54:42,822 --> 00:54:46,909
We submitted it to the FDA
1840
00:54:42,822 --> 00:54:46,909
and they approved it.
1841
00:54:46,951 --> 00:54:48,577
This was 1999,
1842
00:54:48,619 --> 00:54:52,789
and it reactivated
1843
00:54:48,619 --> 00:54:52,789
psychedelic research
1844
00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:58,503
after basically a 22-year
1845
00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:58,503
dormancy in the United States.
1846
00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:00,797
It's like
1847
00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:00,797
a Rip Van Winkle effect.
1848
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,592
You know,
1849
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,592
it's waking up 20 years later.
1850
00:55:04,635 --> 00:55:06,469
The methodologies,
1851
00:55:06,512 --> 00:55:10,224
the questions that we can ask
1852
00:55:06,512 --> 00:55:10,224
on so many different levels.
1853
00:55:14,896 --> 00:55:17,898
[Tony Head] I had been diagnosed
1854
00:55:14,896 --> 00:55:17,898
with prostate cancer.
1855
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:22,652
My diagnosis was so bad
1856
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:22,652
that...
1857
00:55:22,695 --> 00:55:27,199
You know, they weren't giving me
1858
00:55:22,695 --> 00:55:27,199
any chance whatsoever.
1859
00:55:27,242 --> 00:55:31,746
[Judith Goedeke] My diagnosis
1860
00:55:27,242 --> 00:55:31,746
was kidney cancer.
1861
00:55:31,786 --> 00:55:37,918
Finding out that you may want
1862
00:55:31,786 --> 00:55:37,918
to get your affairs in order.
1863
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,795
[Head] I first found out
1864
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,795
about the study
1865
00:55:39,836 --> 00:55:42,380
when my oncologist
1866
00:55:39,836 --> 00:55:42,380
gave me a pamphlet.
1867
00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:46,427
He said, "Here's something
1868
00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:46,427
that might be able to help
1869
00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:46,427
you with the anxiety."
1870
00:55:47,677 --> 00:55:50,264
And I was accepted
1871
00:55:47,677 --> 00:55:50,264
into the study.
1872
00:55:50,306 --> 00:55:51,639
The most important thing
1873
00:55:51,681 --> 00:55:55,476
is to remember
1874
00:55:51,681 --> 00:55:55,476
that you're always safe.
1875
00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:59,773
And a recommendation is
1876
00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:59,773
that whatever is coming up,
1877
00:55:59,815 --> 00:56:01,067
that you allow it,
1878
00:56:01,108 --> 00:56:03,152
that you don't have to like it,
1879
00:56:03,193 --> 00:56:05,070
but you say okay,
1880
00:56:05,112 --> 00:56:07,782
rather than trying
1881
00:56:05,112 --> 00:56:07,782
to run away from it.
1882
00:56:07,822 --> 00:56:10,659
Once a volunteer is
1883
00:56:07,822 --> 00:56:10,659
enrolled in the study,
1884
00:56:10,701 --> 00:56:13,036
they're with us
1885
00:56:10,701 --> 00:56:13,036
for the preparation,
1886
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:14,413
the psilocybin sessions
1887
00:56:14,454 --> 00:56:16,831
and the integration
1888
00:56:14,454 --> 00:56:16,831
follow-ups after.
1889
00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:22,797
I have been a guide for
1890
00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:22,797
around 350 psilocybin sessions
1891
00:56:22,838 --> 00:56:24,422
and then about a thousand
1892
00:56:24,465 --> 00:56:26,967
of the preparatory
1893
00:56:24,465 --> 00:56:26,967
and integration meetings.
1894
00:56:27,009 --> 00:56:28,385
Alright.
1895
00:56:29,552 --> 00:56:31,222
Okay, lift your head up.
1896
00:56:31,264 --> 00:56:34,057
It's really just about
1897
00:56:31,264 --> 00:56:34,057
experiencing what comes up
1898
00:56:34,099 --> 00:56:36,601
as the psilocybin takes effect.
1899
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,456
[Head] In the intense part
1900
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,456
of this journey,
1901
00:56:58,498 --> 00:57:01,751
this world and things
1902
00:56:58,498 --> 00:57:01,751
that matter to most people,
1903
00:57:01,793 --> 00:57:03,211
family and all that,
1904
00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:05,922
that wasn't even
1905
00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:05,922
what it was about.
1906
00:57:05,965 --> 00:57:08,467
They say anything mystical
1907
00:57:05,965 --> 00:57:08,467
can't be explained.
1908
00:57:08,509 --> 00:57:10,135
It's something like that.
1909
00:57:10,177 --> 00:57:15,391
It's a feeling
1910
00:57:10,177 --> 00:57:15,391
of such immense power
1911
00:57:15,431 --> 00:57:18,101
that you can't even imagine.
1912
00:57:18,143 --> 00:57:20,646
I've never felt
1913
00:57:18,143 --> 00:57:20,646
anything like it before.
1914
00:57:23,315 --> 00:57:27,652
It was about being in a place
1915
00:57:23,315 --> 00:57:27,652
of infinite space
1916
00:57:27,695 --> 00:57:30,697
and just being there.
1917
00:57:35,702 --> 00:57:38,373
[Griffiths] There's a
1918
00:57:35,702 --> 00:57:38,373
experience of positive mood,
1919
00:57:38,414 --> 00:57:41,291
sometimes
1920
00:57:38,414 --> 00:57:41,291
openheartedness, love,
1921
00:57:41,333 --> 00:57:43,335
a transcendence
1922
00:57:41,333 --> 00:57:43,335
of time and space,
1923
00:57:43,378 --> 00:57:47,005
and then finally, it's
1924
00:57:43,378 --> 00:57:47,005
thought to be ineffable.
1925
00:57:48,507 --> 00:57:51,760
People say, "I can't describe
1926
00:57:48,507 --> 00:57:51,760
that experience."
1927
00:57:57,099 --> 00:57:59,809
[Goedeke] In my mind I said,
1928
00:57:57,099 --> 00:57:59,809
"Okay, hold it.
1929
00:57:59,851 --> 00:58:02,230
If I give myself over to you...
1930
00:58:03,063 --> 00:58:04,481
can you promise me
1931
00:58:04,523 --> 00:58:09,485
that I will be in at least
1932
00:58:04,523 --> 00:58:09,485
as strong a shape
1933
00:58:09,527 --> 00:58:12,239
as when I entered this room?"
1934
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,909
And I felt a voice
1935
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,909
that I needed to heed.
1936
00:58:17,494 --> 00:58:23,000
"Do you think I would
1937
00:58:17,494 --> 00:58:23,000
disrespect my own handiwork?"
1938
00:58:25,210 --> 00:58:27,755
This is the voice
1939
00:58:25,210 --> 00:58:27,755
from on high saying,
1940
00:58:27,795 --> 00:58:31,050
"Do you think I would
1941
00:58:27,795 --> 00:58:31,050
disrespect my child?"
1942
00:58:31,967 --> 00:58:35,137
And I felt so beautiful.
1943
00:58:36,389 --> 00:58:40,976
I felt like I have
1944
00:58:36,389 --> 00:58:40,976
never felt before.
1945
00:58:41,018 --> 00:58:43,144
My sense of being loved,
1946
00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:48,900
of being worthy of love,
1947
00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:48,900
of being cared for,
1948
00:58:48,943 --> 00:58:53,239
of being important
1949
00:58:48,943 --> 00:58:53,239
to someone.
1950
00:58:56,992 --> 00:58:58,577
It's huge.
1951
00:59:02,998 --> 00:59:06,376
You're going into it,
1952
00:59:02,998 --> 00:59:06,376
you're doing beautifully.
1953
00:59:22,851 --> 00:59:25,813
[Griffiths] One-third
1954
00:59:22,851 --> 00:59:25,813
of individuals in the study
1955
00:59:25,853 --> 00:59:28,190
said it's the single most
1956
00:59:28,231 --> 00:59:31,152
spiritually significant
1957
00:59:28,231 --> 00:59:31,152
experience of their lives.
1958
00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:34,070
About 70% say
1959
00:59:34,112 --> 00:59:39,327
it's among the five
1960
00:59:34,112 --> 00:59:39,327
most personally meaningful
1961
00:59:34,112 --> 00:59:39,327
experiences of their lives.
1962
00:59:39,367 --> 00:59:42,621
Then you say,
1963
00:59:39,367 --> 00:59:42,621
"Well, so what does that mean?"
1964
00:59:42,663 --> 00:59:45,458
You know?
1965
00:59:42,663 --> 00:59:45,458
And initially I thought,
1966
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:49,545
I wonder if they don't have
1967
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:49,545
pretty dull lives.
1968
00:59:49,585 --> 00:59:52,130
But no,
1969
00:59:49,585 --> 00:59:52,130
people would say,
1970
00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:56,635
you know, when my firstborn
1971
00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:56,635
came into this world,
1972
00:59:56,677 --> 00:59:58,219
I'll never forget that.
1973
00:59:58,262 --> 01:00:01,139
And life has never
1974
00:59:58,262 --> 01:00:01,139
been the same since.
1975
01:00:01,181 --> 01:00:05,643
Or my father passed away.
1976
01:00:01,181 --> 01:00:05,643
That was deeply moving to me.
1977
01:00:05,686 --> 01:00:07,480
I'm different now
1978
01:00:05,686 --> 01:00:07,480
in the world.
1979
01:00:07,521 --> 01:00:09,981
They say, you know,
1980
01:00:07,521 --> 01:00:09,981
it's kind of like that.
1981
01:00:12,733 --> 01:00:15,695
[Head] The most
1982
01:00:12,733 --> 01:00:15,695
glorious part was that
1983
01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:20,409
it made me feel more
1984
01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:20,409
comfortable with living,
1985
01:00:20,451 --> 01:00:23,161
you know,
1986
01:00:20,451 --> 01:00:23,161
because, uh...
1987
01:00:23,204 --> 01:00:26,081
you're not afraid of dying.
1988
01:00:27,916 --> 01:00:30,960
[Griffiths] Frankly,
1989
01:00:27,916 --> 01:00:30,960
I'm just a laboratory scientist
1990
01:00:31,003 --> 01:00:33,588
and I wasn't prepared for that.
1991
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:37,842
[Richards] From the memory
1992
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:37,842
of the transcendental state
1993
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:37,842
of consciousness,
1994
01:00:37,885 --> 01:00:42,347
many people report less anxiety,
1995
01:00:37,885 --> 01:00:42,347
less depression,
1996
01:00:42,389 --> 01:00:45,226
less preoccupation
1997
01:00:42,389 --> 01:00:45,226
with pain,
1998
01:00:45,266 --> 01:00:48,603
closer interpersonal
1999
01:00:45,266 --> 01:00:48,603
relationships,
2000
01:00:48,644 --> 01:00:50,856
and perhaps most impressive,
2001
01:00:50,898 --> 01:00:55,193
they claim to have a loss
2002
01:00:50,898 --> 01:00:55,193
of the fear of death.
2003
01:00:55,235 --> 01:00:58,280
It recalibrates
2004
01:00:55,235 --> 01:00:58,280
how they see death.
2005
01:00:58,322 --> 01:01:02,201
[Anthony Bossis]
2006
01:00:58,322 --> 01:01:02,201
It's been amazing hearing them
2007
01:00:58,322 --> 01:01:02,201
talk about this idea of love.
2008
01:01:03,077 --> 01:01:04,411
Many of them spoke about
2009
01:01:04,452 --> 01:01:06,414
how nature itself
2010
01:01:04,452 --> 01:01:06,414
is something like
2011
01:01:06,454 --> 01:01:08,416
this substance called love.
2012
01:01:09,541 --> 01:01:11,543
And having touched that,
2013
01:01:11,585 --> 01:01:14,547
They've recalibrated
2014
01:01:11,585 --> 01:01:14,547
and reshaped how they
2015
01:01:11,585 --> 01:01:14,547
die differently.
2016
01:01:21,969 --> 01:01:24,056
[Jesse] The Johns Hopkins
2017
01:01:21,969 --> 01:01:24,056
psilocybin research team
2018
01:01:24,097 --> 01:01:27,434
has completed or has underway
2019
01:01:24,097 --> 01:01:27,434
a total of nine studies
2020
01:01:27,476 --> 01:01:30,144
and it got the
2021
01:01:27,476 --> 01:01:30,144
world's attention.
2022
01:01:34,483 --> 01:01:37,318
When we finally released the
2023
01:01:34,483 --> 01:01:37,318
results of our first experiment
2024
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,655
in a peer-reviewed
2025
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,655
scientific journal,
2026
01:01:39,695 --> 01:01:41,574
it was very gratifying to see
2027
01:01:41,615 --> 01:01:44,367
how the daily press
2028
01:01:41,615 --> 01:01:44,367
responded to it.
2029
01:01:44,409 --> 01:01:45,911
A little bit of health news
2030
01:01:44,409 --> 01:01:45,911
for you.
2031
01:01:45,952 --> 01:01:48,664
A single dose of psychedelic
2032
01:01:45,952 --> 01:01:48,664
magic mushrooms
2033
01:01:48,704 --> 01:01:51,291
can make people with severe
2034
01:01:48,704 --> 01:01:51,291
anxiety and depression
2035
01:01:51,333 --> 01:01:53,543
feel better for months.
2036
01:01:53,585 --> 01:01:56,713
[Richards] It changes the
2037
01:01:53,585 --> 01:01:56,713
way they view themselves,
2038
01:01:56,755 --> 01:01:59,425
other people in the world...
2039
01:01:59,467 --> 01:02:01,760
from a single experience,
2040
01:02:01,802 --> 01:02:05,306
not Prozac that you have
2041
01:02:01,802 --> 01:02:05,306
to keep taking day after day.
2042
01:02:06,931 --> 01:02:08,976
[Pollan]
2043
01:02:06,931 --> 01:02:08,976
These are not chronic drugs,
2044
01:02:09,016 --> 01:02:11,394
and that's where most
2045
01:02:09,016 --> 01:02:11,394
of the research
2046
01:02:11,436 --> 01:02:14,523
and development
2047
01:02:11,436 --> 01:02:14,523
in Big Pharma goes.
2048
01:02:14,565 --> 01:02:17,067
The treatments that are
2049
01:02:14,565 --> 01:02:17,067
being explored for psilocybin
2050
01:02:17,108 --> 01:02:22,114
involve one, two, maybe
2051
01:02:17,108 --> 01:02:22,114
three pills. That's it.
2052
01:02:22,155 --> 01:02:23,615
That's not a very good
2053
01:02:22,155 --> 01:02:23,615
business model.
2054
01:02:23,657 --> 01:02:25,742
You can't make
2055
01:02:23,657 --> 01:02:25,742
a lot of money that way.
2056
01:02:29,246 --> 01:02:34,208
The core of this mystical
2057
01:02:29,246 --> 01:02:34,208
experience is, um...
2058
01:02:35,503 --> 01:02:37,253
is a mystery, frankly.
2059
01:02:37,295 --> 01:02:39,507
It's the existential mystery
2060
01:02:39,547 --> 01:02:41,882
of what are we really
2061
01:02:39,547 --> 01:02:41,882
doing here?
2062
01:02:41,925 --> 01:02:44,760
What's the meaning
2063
01:02:41,925 --> 01:02:44,760
of all this?
2064
01:02:44,802 --> 01:02:48,889
and that is a very uplifting
2065
01:02:44,802 --> 01:02:48,889
kind of experience to have.
2066
01:02:48,931 --> 01:02:50,099
[Richards] As a whole,
2067
01:02:50,141 --> 01:02:52,143
there's a sense of being part
2068
01:02:52,186 --> 01:02:54,271
of a larger network.
2069
01:02:54,313 --> 01:03:00,652
And somehow, that's more real
2070
01:02:54,313 --> 01:03:00,652
after a mystical experience.
2071
01:03:02,278 --> 01:03:04,197
You feel that you
2072
01:03:02,278 --> 01:03:04,197
really are connected
2073
01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:05,990
in some meaningful way
2074
01:03:06,032 --> 01:03:09,244
with every atom
2075
01:03:06,032 --> 01:03:09,244
of the universe.
2076
01:03:09,286 --> 01:03:11,413
[Griffiths]
2077
01:03:09,286 --> 01:03:11,413
From my perspective,
2078
01:03:11,454 --> 01:03:13,956
this core experience informs
2079
01:03:13,998 --> 01:03:17,335
all of the religious,
2080
01:03:13,998 --> 01:03:17,335
ethical and moral traditions.
2081
01:03:17,378 --> 01:03:21,965
I mean, that is the core of
2082
01:03:17,378 --> 01:03:21,965
"Love thy neighbor as thyself."
2083
01:03:23,509 --> 01:03:26,469
If we don't get some
2084
01:03:23,509 --> 01:03:26,469
of these priorities straight
2085
01:03:26,512 --> 01:03:28,929
with respect to how
2086
01:03:26,512 --> 01:03:28,929
we treat other people,
2087
01:03:28,972 --> 01:03:31,932
how we treat our environment,
2088
01:03:31,974 --> 01:03:33,643
we're gonna
2089
01:03:31,974 --> 01:03:33,643
cease to exist.
2090
01:03:33,686 --> 01:03:36,896
I could see this
2091
01:03:33,686 --> 01:03:36,896
as being critical
2092
01:03:36,938 --> 01:03:39,483
to the evolution
2093
01:03:36,938 --> 01:03:39,483
of the species, frankly.
2094
01:03:42,110 --> 01:03:44,153
[P. Stamets] You wouldn't go
2095
01:03:42,110 --> 01:03:44,153
hiking the Himalaya mountains
2096
01:03:44,195 --> 01:03:45,655
without any preparation.
2097
01:03:45,697 --> 01:03:47,782
Well, this is a journey.
2098
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:49,534
These are sacraments
2099
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:49,534
and medicines
2100
01:03:49,577 --> 01:03:51,452
that should be treated
2101
01:03:49,577 --> 01:03:51,452
with respect
2102
01:03:51,494 --> 01:03:52,913
and caution.
2103
01:03:58,376 --> 01:04:02,047
Consider it to be going
2104
01:03:58,376 --> 01:04:02,047
to your own personal church.
2105
01:04:02,088 --> 01:04:05,259
You're going to sit
2106
01:04:02,088 --> 01:04:05,259
in awe of the universe.
2107
01:04:39,041 --> 01:04:40,585
[Bossis] We have a new study,
2108
01:04:39,041 --> 01:04:40,585
which is kind of remarkable.
2109
01:04:40,628 --> 01:04:42,503
It's work with
2110
01:04:40,628 --> 01:04:42,503
religious leaders.
2111
01:04:42,545 --> 01:04:45,465
These are ordained clergy
2112
01:04:42,545 --> 01:04:45,465
who have many traditions.
2113
01:04:45,507 --> 01:04:49,219
Christianity, Buddhism,
2114
01:04:45,507 --> 01:04:49,219
Judaism, Hinduism.
2115
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:51,806
Since these experiences
2116
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:51,806
are at the core
2117
01:04:51,847 --> 01:04:53,431
of the major religions,
2118
01:04:53,474 --> 01:04:56,059
why not bring in
2119
01:04:53,474 --> 01:04:56,059
religious leaders
2120
01:04:56,101 --> 01:04:59,019
who spent their careers
2121
01:04:56,101 --> 01:04:59,019
studying this landscape
2122
01:04:59,061 --> 01:05:01,440
to have the experience?
2123
01:05:16,704 --> 01:05:18,873
-[phone vibrating]
2124
01:05:16,704 --> 01:05:18,873
-[Stamets] You guys hear that?
2125
01:05:18,914 --> 01:05:21,001
-You didn't?
2126
01:05:18,914 --> 01:05:21,001
-[man] Vibrating?
2127
01:05:21,041 --> 01:05:22,878
Vibrating.
2128
01:05:21,041 --> 01:05:22,878
Phone call was coming in.
2129
01:05:22,918 --> 01:05:24,128
There she goes.
2130
01:05:25,422 --> 01:05:27,423
Message from Mom.
2131
01:05:27,465 --> 01:05:29,217
Inbound message
2132
01:05:27,465 --> 01:05:29,217
from Mother.
2133
01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:31,427
[P. Stamets] I think I had
2134
01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:31,427
the best of all mothers.
2135
01:05:31,469 --> 01:05:33,681
My mother was extremely kind.
2136
01:05:37,434 --> 01:05:41,563
[cheering and applause]
2137
01:05:41,605 --> 01:05:45,567
So another mushroom
2138
01:05:41,605 --> 01:05:45,567
empowers the immune system
2139
01:05:45,608 --> 01:05:47,193
and this is turkey tails.
2140
01:05:47,235 --> 01:05:49,153
and turkey tail mushrooms
2141
01:05:47,235 --> 01:05:49,153
have also been used
2142
01:05:49,195 --> 01:05:51,155
for more than a thousand years.
2143
01:05:51,197 --> 01:05:55,994
This hit home to me very
2144
01:05:51,197 --> 01:05:55,994
personally, in June of 2009
2145
01:05:56,036 --> 01:05:58,454
when my 84-year-old mother
2146
01:05:56,036 --> 01:05:58,454
called me up
2147
01:05:58,496 --> 01:06:00,206
and said, "Paul,
2148
01:06:00,248 --> 01:06:02,250
I have something very serious
2149
01:06:00,248 --> 01:06:02,250
to talk to you about."
2150
01:06:02,291 --> 01:06:05,920
She said, "My right breast is
2151
01:06:02,291 --> 01:06:05,920
five times the size of my left.
2152
01:06:05,961 --> 01:06:09,632
I have six swollen lymph glands
2153
01:06:05,961 --> 01:06:09,632
the size of walnuts,"
2154
01:06:09,675 --> 01:06:11,300
and her voice started shaking
2155
01:06:11,342 --> 01:06:13,010
and I'm not ashamed to admit
2156
01:06:11,342 --> 01:06:13,010
that I started crying.
2157
01:06:13,052 --> 01:06:16,222
She had stage four
2158
01:06:13,052 --> 01:06:16,222
breast cancer.
2159
01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:17,724
But then the doctor said,
2160
01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:17,724
"You know,
2161
01:06:17,766 --> 01:06:19,559
you're too old to
2162
01:06:17,766 --> 01:06:19,559
have radiation therapy.
2163
01:06:19,601 --> 01:06:21,686
You can't have your
2164
01:06:19,601 --> 01:06:21,686
breasts removed.
2165
01:06:21,728 --> 01:06:24,271
But there's an interesting study
2166
01:06:21,728 --> 01:06:24,271
on turkey tail mushrooms
2167
01:06:24,313 --> 01:06:25,565
at Bastyr Medical School.
2168
01:06:25,606 --> 01:06:28,193
You might want
2169
01:06:25,606 --> 01:06:28,193
to try taking those."
2170
01:06:28,235 --> 01:06:29,443
And that's-- my mom goes,
2171
01:06:29,485 --> 01:06:31,278
"Well, my son's
2172
01:06:29,485 --> 01:06:31,278
supplying those."
2173
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,324
So she was put on Taxol
2174
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,324
and Herceptin, wonderful drugs.
2175
01:06:35,367 --> 01:06:36,617
And then she started taking
2176
01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:38,327
eight turkey tail
2177
01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:38,327
capsules a day.
2178
01:06:38,369 --> 01:06:41,121
Four in the morning
2179
01:06:38,369 --> 01:06:41,121
and four in the evening,
2180
01:06:41,164 --> 01:06:44,668
and that was in June of 2009.
2181
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:49,547
And today, my mother
2182
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:49,547
has no detectable tumors.
2183
01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:51,967
And I'd like
2184
01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:51,967
to bring my mother up.
2185
01:07:05,396 --> 01:07:08,148
You have to live through
2186
01:07:05,396 --> 01:07:08,148
it to believe it.
2187
01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:11,612
Hey, by the way, thank you
2188
01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:11,612
for giving birth to me.
2189
01:07:11,652 --> 01:07:12,905
I really appreciate that.
2190
01:07:12,947 --> 01:07:15,322
Oh, you haven't
2191
01:07:12,947 --> 01:07:15,322
thanked me lately?
2192
01:07:18,911 --> 01:07:21,329
[P. Stamets] It has been
2193
01:07:18,911 --> 01:07:21,329
reported in literature that
2194
01:07:21,371 --> 01:07:23,331
medicinal mushrooms
2195
01:07:21,371 --> 01:07:23,331
like turkey tail
2196
01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:25,583
help chemotherapeutic
2197
01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:25,583
agents work better.
2198
01:07:25,626 --> 01:07:27,920
And I think she's
2199
01:07:25,626 --> 01:07:27,920
a living example of that.
2200
01:07:36,427 --> 01:07:39,014
One can argue with me
2201
01:07:36,427 --> 01:07:39,014
on the statistics,
2202
01:07:39,054 --> 01:07:40,556
but my mother's alive,
2203
01:07:40,599 --> 01:07:42,851
and all the doctors
2204
01:07:40,599 --> 01:07:42,851
that saw her
2205
01:07:42,893 --> 01:07:45,646
did not believe
2206
01:07:42,893 --> 01:07:45,646
that she would survive.
2207
01:08:00,117 --> 01:08:02,369
[man] It is my great honor...
2208
01:08:02,411 --> 01:08:04,748
to introduce Paul Stamets.
2209
01:08:04,789 --> 01:08:08,208
[cheering and applause]
2210
01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:13,673
I have brought
2211
01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:13,673
a fungal friend of mine
2212
01:08:13,715 --> 01:08:15,342
from the old-growth forest
2213
01:08:15,382 --> 01:08:19,429
and I present to you...
2214
01:08:15,382 --> 01:08:19,429
Agarikon.
2215
01:08:19,470 --> 01:08:22,349
[cheering and applause]
2216
01:08:25,435 --> 01:08:27,813
Agarikon was described
2217
01:08:25,435 --> 01:08:27,813
in 65 A.D.
2218
01:08:27,854 --> 01:08:30,314
as elixirium ad longam vitam.
2219
01:08:30,356 --> 01:08:32,067
"The elixir of long life."
2220
01:08:34,444 --> 01:08:36,112
So I want to take you
2221
01:08:36,154 --> 01:08:38,573
on a magical mushroom
2222
01:08:36,154 --> 01:08:38,573
mystery tour.
2223
01:08:40,449 --> 01:08:43,787
and I'm going to push
2224
01:08:40,449 --> 01:08:43,787
the envelope here, folks.
2225
01:08:43,828 --> 01:08:47,666
Microdiversity
2226
01:08:43,828 --> 01:08:47,666
is biodiversity.
2227
01:08:47,707 --> 01:08:51,670
You will decompose.
2228
01:08:47,707 --> 01:08:51,670
I'm going to decompose.
2229
01:08:51,712 --> 01:08:53,005
We're all gonna die.
2230
01:08:54,421 --> 01:08:55,923
That's okay,
2231
01:08:55,966 --> 01:08:59,260
because we will enter
2232
01:08:55,966 --> 01:08:59,260
into the micro-verse.
2233
01:09:01,055 --> 01:09:03,472
We will forever exist together
2234
01:09:03,515 --> 01:09:06,266
within the
2235
01:09:03,515 --> 01:09:06,266
micromolecular matrix.
2236
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:08,269
[Lincoff] When he talks
2237
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:08,269
the way he does,
2238
01:09:08,310 --> 01:09:09,395
he is...
2239
01:09:09,436 --> 01:09:12,649
channeling the mycelium.
2240
01:09:12,690 --> 01:09:15,860
And this is a marvelous thing.
2241
01:09:15,903 --> 01:09:17,319
Brain neurons,
2242
01:09:17,362 --> 01:09:18,320
mycelium,
2243
01:09:18,363 --> 01:09:20,573
the computer internet,
2244
01:09:20,614 --> 01:09:24,744
the organization of the universe
2245
01:09:20,614 --> 01:09:24,744
all shares the same archetype.
2246
01:09:24,786 --> 01:09:28,082
I believe matter
2247
01:09:24,786 --> 01:09:28,082
begets life.
2248
01:09:28,122 --> 01:09:29,957
Life becomes single cells.
2249
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,918
Single cells form chains.
2250
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,046
Chains forms branches.
2251
01:09:34,087 --> 01:09:40,761
Matrices form interlocking,
2252
01:09:34,087 --> 01:09:40,761
intersecting mosaics of mycelium
2253
01:09:40,801 --> 01:09:44,430
and mycelium-like
2254
01:09:40,801 --> 01:09:44,430
organisms ebb and flow
2255
01:09:44,471 --> 01:09:45,974
not only on this planet,
2256
01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:48,475
on other planets
2257
01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:48,475
into the future.
2258
01:09:48,518 --> 01:09:50,185
Thank you very much.
2259
01:09:56,984 --> 01:09:59,029
Paul was wonderful
2260
01:09:56,984 --> 01:09:59,029
in bringing us information
2261
01:09:59,070 --> 01:10:01,073
about all these
2262
01:09:59,070 --> 01:10:01,073
aspects of mushrooms
2263
01:10:01,114 --> 01:10:04,324
and then it inspired
2264
01:10:01,114 --> 01:10:04,324
all these young people.
2265
01:10:04,367 --> 01:10:06,119
Now we have people
2266
01:10:04,367 --> 01:10:06,119
like Tradd Cotter
2267
01:10:06,161 --> 01:10:08,203
carrying on the great work
2268
01:10:06,161 --> 01:10:08,203
that Paul started,
2269
01:10:08,246 --> 01:10:10,247
talking about biopesticides,
2270
01:10:10,289 --> 01:10:12,960
talking about the ways
2271
01:10:10,289 --> 01:10:12,960
you could detoxify oil.
2272
01:10:13,001 --> 01:10:15,502
All of these amazing
2273
01:10:13,001 --> 01:10:15,502
things were started
2274
01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:16,796
because people like Paul
2275
01:10:16,837 --> 01:10:18,756
brought that to
2276
01:10:16,837 --> 01:10:18,756
the culture at large
2277
01:10:18,798 --> 01:10:20,382
and young people now
2278
01:10:18,798 --> 01:10:20,382
have taken up the cause
2279
01:10:20,425 --> 01:10:22,927
and are really expanding
2280
01:10:20,425 --> 01:10:22,927
our insights
2281
01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:25,512
into what the world
2282
01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:25,512
of mushrooms can do for us.
2283
01:10:25,555 --> 01:10:27,015
Hi, my name's Peter
2284
01:10:27,056 --> 01:10:28,809
and I'm with the radical
2285
01:10:27,056 --> 01:10:28,809
mycology project.
2286
01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:30,060
I recently trained a mushroom
2287
01:10:30,101 --> 01:10:31,979
to digest used
2288
01:10:30,101 --> 01:10:31,979
cigarette filters.
2289
01:10:32,020 --> 01:10:33,729
[Peter McCoy] Paul Stamets's
2290
01:10:32,020 --> 01:10:33,729
book, Mycelium Running
2291
01:10:33,771 --> 01:10:35,649
got my mind sort of in a whirl.
2292
01:10:35,689 --> 01:10:37,317
That was when I
2293
01:10:35,689 --> 01:10:37,317
first discovered that
2294
01:10:37,358 --> 01:10:41,279
there was much more to
2295
01:10:37,358 --> 01:10:41,279
mushrooms than just food.
2296
01:10:42,363 --> 01:10:43,739
[Brown] If you would've seen me
2297
01:10:43,782 --> 01:10:45,033
when I dropped out
2298
01:10:43,782 --> 01:10:45,033
of high school,
2299
01:10:45,074 --> 01:10:46,576
I was just making rap music.
2300
01:10:46,618 --> 01:10:48,368
I knew very little
2301
01:10:46,618 --> 01:10:48,368
about the natural world.
2302
01:10:48,411 --> 01:10:50,997
I had never even went
2303
01:10:48,411 --> 01:10:50,997
on a hike until I was 18,
2304
01:10:51,038 --> 01:10:52,832
but finding Paul Stamets'
2305
01:10:51,038 --> 01:10:52,832
TED talk video
2306
01:10:52,873 --> 01:10:55,168
was one of the biggest
2307
01:10:52,873 --> 01:10:55,168
inspirations that pushed me
2308
01:10:55,210 --> 01:10:57,837
into the wonderful world
2309
01:10:55,210 --> 01:10:57,837
of mycology.
2310
01:10:57,878 --> 01:10:59,338
My first mushroom book
2311
01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:01,341
was The Mushroom Cultivator
2312
01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:01,341
by Paul Stamets.
2313
01:11:01,381 --> 01:11:04,177
[Furci] I will be eternally
2314
01:11:01,381 --> 01:11:04,177
thankful to him
2315
01:11:04,219 --> 01:11:07,346
for showing me that it's okay
2316
01:11:04,219 --> 01:11:07,346
to be mushroom mad.
2317
01:11:07,387 --> 01:11:11,225
[Lori Cariss] We really don't
2318
01:11:07,387 --> 01:11:11,225
even know most fungi.
2319
01:11:11,266 --> 01:11:14,188
We're discovering new species
2320
01:11:11,266 --> 01:11:14,188
on a daily basis
2321
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:16,523
and you don't have to go
2322
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:16,523
to exotic locations
2323
01:11:16,564 --> 01:11:17,649
to discover them.
2324
01:11:18,984 --> 01:11:20,527
[McCoy] Anybody can
2325
01:11:18,984 --> 01:11:20,527
add to the science,
2326
01:11:20,568 --> 01:11:22,029
from identifying a new species
2327
01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:24,113
to developing a new
2328
01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:24,113
micro-mediation protocol.
2329
01:11:24,155 --> 01:11:27,908
[Cariss] There is a great need
2330
01:11:24,155 --> 01:11:27,908
for more people to study fungi
2331
01:11:27,951 --> 01:11:30,703
and there's lots
2332
01:11:27,951 --> 01:11:30,703
of opportunities.
2333
01:11:30,744 --> 01:11:32,831
[Pollan] It's amazing what
2334
01:11:30,744 --> 01:11:32,831
we don't know about mushrooms.
2335
01:11:32,872 --> 01:11:35,042
They really are a frontier
2336
01:11:32,872 --> 01:11:35,042
of knowledge.
2337
01:11:35,082 --> 01:11:38,837
They probably can help us
2338
01:11:35,082 --> 01:11:38,837
solve all sorts of problems
2339
01:11:38,878 --> 01:11:41,047
if we look a little deeper.
2340
01:11:41,088 --> 01:11:43,423
[Cotter] Anyone, anyone can help
2341
01:11:43,466 --> 01:11:44,801
by going and walking
2342
01:11:43,466 --> 01:11:44,801
in the woods
2343
01:11:44,842 --> 01:11:46,720
and contributing
2344
01:11:44,842 --> 01:11:46,720
to mycology.
2345
01:11:46,761 --> 01:11:49,430
You may have found a species
2346
01:11:46,761 --> 01:11:49,430
that has never been found.
2347
01:11:51,099 --> 01:11:52,684
We need these mushrooms.
2348
01:11:52,725 --> 01:11:56,604
We work together as a community
2349
01:11:52,725 --> 01:11:56,604
to solve problems.
2350
01:11:56,645 --> 01:12:01,484
We could be the community
2351
01:11:56,645 --> 01:12:01,484
that heals the planet.
2352
01:12:01,525 --> 01:12:04,319
[P. Stamets] It's been estimated
2353
01:12:01,525 --> 01:12:04,319
two-thirds of our food supply
2354
01:12:04,362 --> 01:12:06,655
is bee-pollinated-dependent.
2355
01:12:06,698 --> 01:12:09,367
Unfortunately, we're losing
2356
01:12:06,698 --> 01:12:09,367
bees across the world
2357
01:12:09,408 --> 01:12:11,493
in a dramatic die-off
2358
01:12:09,408 --> 01:12:11,493
that is very dangerous
2359
01:12:11,536 --> 01:12:14,788
for the biosecurity
2360
01:12:11,536 --> 01:12:14,788
of this planet.
2361
01:12:14,831 --> 01:12:17,000
So I started exploring ways
2362
01:12:14,831 --> 01:12:17,000
to help save the bees
2363
01:12:17,042 --> 01:12:18,585
and I noticed
2364
01:12:17,042 --> 01:12:18,585
in the summertime
2365
01:12:18,626 --> 01:12:20,336
there's a continuous
2366
01:12:18,626 --> 01:12:20,336
convoy of bees
2367
01:12:20,377 --> 01:12:22,963
going from my beehives
2368
01:12:20,377 --> 01:12:22,963
to my mycelium.
2369
01:12:23,006 --> 01:12:24,841
But then it dawned on me,
2370
01:12:24,882 --> 01:12:27,426
maybe the bees are benefiting
2371
01:12:24,882 --> 01:12:27,426
from the mycelial extracts
2372
01:12:27,467 --> 01:12:29,054
because they have
2373
01:12:27,467 --> 01:12:29,054
antiviral properties.
2374
01:12:29,095 --> 01:12:32,347
And so I cultured the most
2375
01:12:29,095 --> 01:12:32,347
aggressive strains
2376
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:34,016
and then submitted them.
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01:12:34,059 --> 01:12:36,394
We started testing the
2378
01:12:34,059 --> 01:12:36,394
effects of these extracts
2379
01:12:36,435 --> 01:12:39,189
in helping bees survive.
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01:12:39,230 --> 01:12:41,356
[Nicholas Naeger] Some of these
2381
01:12:39,230 --> 01:12:41,356
fungal extracts are really good
2382
01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:44,359
at reducing viral
2383
01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:44,359
levels in the bee.
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01:12:44,402 --> 01:12:45,819
So here we have a fungus
2385
01:12:45,862 --> 01:12:49,115
that is helping fight
2386
01:12:45,862 --> 01:12:49,115
viruses in an insect.
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01:12:49,157 --> 01:12:50,658
[man] We're using
2388
01:12:49,157 --> 01:12:50,658
mushrooms to create
2389
01:12:50,699 --> 01:12:52,743
an entirely new class
2390
01:12:50,699 --> 01:12:52,743
of materials
2391
01:12:52,786 --> 01:12:55,747
which are totally compostable
2392
01:12:52,786 --> 01:12:55,747
at the end of their lives.
2393
01:12:56,914 --> 01:12:58,498
[woman]
2394
01:12:56,914 --> 01:12:58,498
The researchers found that
2395
01:12:58,541 --> 01:13:00,627
when they heated
2396
01:12:58,541 --> 01:13:00,627
a portobello mushroom skin
2397
01:13:00,667 --> 01:13:02,296
to roughly 2,000
2398
01:13:00,667 --> 01:13:02,296
degrees Fahrenheit,
2399
01:13:02,337 --> 01:13:04,546
it became a lattice
2400
01:13:02,337 --> 01:13:04,546
of carbon nano ribbon
2401
01:13:04,588 --> 01:13:06,341
that could be used
2402
01:13:04,588 --> 01:13:06,341
in battery design
2403
01:13:06,381 --> 01:13:08,051
because it allows a good
2404
01:13:06,381 --> 01:13:08,051
amount of surface area
2405
01:13:08,092 --> 01:13:09,344
for storing energy.
2406
01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:12,012
[Cotter]
2407
01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:12,012
You can filter water.
2408
01:13:12,055 --> 01:13:15,141
You can create medicinal
2409
01:13:12,055 --> 01:13:15,141
compounds almost on demand.
2410
01:13:15,182 --> 01:13:16,850
We've worked in Haiti,
2411
01:13:16,893 --> 01:13:18,353
and they look at you
2412
01:13:16,893 --> 01:13:18,353
like I have super powers.
2413
01:13:18,394 --> 01:13:20,520
Well, I tell them, I said,
2414
01:13:20,563 --> 01:13:22,649
"You are about to
2415
01:13:20,563 --> 01:13:22,649
have superpowers too."
2416
01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:26,402
[Brown] Coming from
2417
01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:26,402
the background of not
2418
01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:26,402
having any training,
2419
01:13:26,444 --> 01:13:28,904
getting myself into the
2420
01:13:26,444 --> 01:13:28,904
lab was very empowering.
2421
01:13:28,947 --> 01:13:30,864
I felt like a superhero.
2422
01:13:28,947 --> 01:13:30,864
I felt like I could do anything.
2423
01:13:32,367 --> 01:13:34,493
You're officially
2424
01:13:32,367 --> 01:13:34,493
a mushroom farmer.
2425
01:13:35,578 --> 01:13:37,288
Sporulating.
2426
01:13:35,578 --> 01:13:37,288
Sporgasm.
2427
01:13:37,331 --> 01:13:40,875
[Lincoff] I see my species
2428
01:13:37,331 --> 01:13:40,875
as part of a larger whole.
2429
01:13:40,917 --> 01:13:43,461
Rather than being at
2430
01:13:40,917 --> 01:13:43,461
the top of the pyramid,
2431
01:13:43,502 --> 01:13:47,590
being one of the organisms
2432
01:13:43,502 --> 01:13:47,590
with inside the circle.
2433
01:13:47,631 --> 01:13:51,051
and the circle is
2434
01:13:47,631 --> 01:13:51,051
made up of mycelium,
2435
01:13:51,094 --> 01:13:52,845
holding us all together.
2436
01:14:00,686 --> 01:14:03,689
[Simard] We've always thought of
2437
01:14:00,686 --> 01:14:03,689
plants as these inert objects,
2438
01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:08,569
these things that don't
2439
01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:08,569
actually interact with
2440
01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:08,569
each other and build things,
2441
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:11,113
and what my work
2442
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:11,113
is showing, and other
2443
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:11,113
people's work as well,
2444
01:14:11,155 --> 01:14:14,993
it's saying actually,
2445
01:14:11,155 --> 01:14:14,993
they need each other.
2446
01:14:15,034 --> 01:14:17,619
They need each other
2447
01:14:15,034 --> 01:14:17,619
to grow in a community
2448
01:14:17,662 --> 01:14:19,956
so that they can start
2449
01:14:17,662 --> 01:14:19,956
sharing the load.
2450
01:14:19,997 --> 01:14:22,250
You do this, I'll do that,
2451
01:14:19,997 --> 01:14:22,250
and together,
2452
01:14:22,292 --> 01:14:24,961
we can make a beautiful
2453
01:14:22,292 --> 01:14:24,961
resilient community.
2454
01:14:27,421 --> 01:14:29,090
They have incredible capacity
2455
01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:31,926
to make things change
2456
01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:31,926
very, very quickly.
2457
01:14:31,967 --> 01:14:33,845
So if we can work with them,
2458
01:14:33,886 --> 01:14:36,014
if we get it, you know?
2459
01:14:33,886 --> 01:14:36,014
If humans get it,
2460
01:14:36,055 --> 01:14:38,725
we can change this
2461
01:14:36,055 --> 01:14:38,725
thing really fast.
2462
01:14:38,765 --> 01:14:40,435
So I am super hopeful.
2463
01:14:40,475 --> 01:14:43,354
We just got to get busy
2464
01:14:40,475 --> 01:14:43,354
and help nature do its thing.
2465
01:14:49,152 --> 01:14:50,569
Evolution never stops.
2466
01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:52,279
There's not one point
2467
01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:52,279
that it happens
2468
01:14:52,322 --> 01:14:53,739
and then it
2469
01:14:52,322 --> 01:14:53,739
doesn't happen again.
2470
01:14:53,780 --> 01:14:55,658
It's continuously happening.
2471
01:15:01,081 --> 01:15:02,832
The core concept of evolution
2472
01:15:02,873 --> 01:15:04,376
is that through
2473
01:15:02,873 --> 01:15:04,376
natural selection,
2474
01:15:04,417 --> 01:15:07,545
the strongest
2475
01:15:04,417 --> 01:15:07,545
and the fittest survive.
2476
01:15:07,587 --> 01:15:09,171
But moreover,
2477
01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:12,216
communities survive better
2478
01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:12,216
than individuals.
2479
01:15:12,259 --> 01:15:14,635
Communities rely
2480
01:15:12,259 --> 01:15:14,635
upon cooperation,
2481
01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:17,346
and I think that's
2482
01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:17,346
the power of goodness.
2483
01:15:18,890 --> 01:15:20,266
Evolution is based
2484
01:15:20,307 --> 01:15:23,310
on the concept
2485
01:15:20,307 --> 01:15:23,310
of mutual benefit,
2486
01:15:23,353 --> 01:15:26,439
and the extension
2487
01:15:23,353 --> 01:15:26,439
of generosity.
2488
01:15:29,524 --> 01:15:32,404
[Simard] When we see it,
2489
01:15:29,524 --> 01:15:32,404
we understand it.
2490
01:15:32,445 --> 01:15:34,654
And when we understand it,
2491
01:15:32,445 --> 01:15:34,654
we care about it.
2492
01:15:34,697 --> 01:15:36,115
And when we care about it,
2493
01:15:36,157 --> 01:15:38,868
we'll do something
2494
01:15:36,157 --> 01:15:38,868
to help save it.
2495
01:15:38,909 --> 01:15:41,746
We need to have a paradigm shift
2496
01:15:38,909 --> 01:15:41,746
in our consciousness.
2497
01:15:41,787 --> 01:15:43,372
What will it take
2498
01:15:41,787 --> 01:15:43,372
to achieve that?
2499
01:15:47,377 --> 01:15:49,712
We are not an individual.
2500
01:15:49,753 --> 01:15:51,588
We are a vast network
2501
01:15:51,631 --> 01:15:55,342
of molecules and
2502
01:15:51,631 --> 01:15:55,342
energies and wavelengths.
2503
01:15:55,385 --> 01:15:59,389
The interconnectedness of
2504
01:15:55,385 --> 01:15:59,389
being is who we are.
2505
01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:07,229
[narrator] This world of
2506
01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:07,229
ours is always changing,
2507
01:16:07,271 --> 01:16:09,689
not for the better
2508
01:16:07,271 --> 01:16:09,689
or for the worse,
2509
01:16:11,024 --> 01:16:13,069
but for life.
2510
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:16,780
If the storms come
2511
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:16,780
and the water rises,
2512
01:16:16,823 --> 01:16:19,742
if fire scorches the land,
2513
01:16:19,783 --> 01:16:21,953
or darkness descends,
2514
01:16:21,994 --> 01:16:23,287
we will be here
2515
01:16:24,497 --> 01:16:26,500
working,
2516
01:16:26,541 --> 01:16:28,376
as we always have.
2517
01:16:29,127 --> 01:16:31,253
Extending the network.
2518
01:16:31,296 --> 01:16:33,422
Building community.
2519
01:16:33,465 --> 01:16:35,382
Restoring balance.
2520
01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:39,220
One connection at a time.
2521
01:16:42,055 --> 01:16:44,766
It may take a million years,
2522
01:16:44,809 --> 01:16:46,978
or a hundred million,
2523
01:16:47,020 --> 01:16:51,315
but we will still be here.
2524
01:17:58,882 --> 01:18:01,969
[computer]
2525
01:17:58,882 --> 01:18:01,969
Lieutenant Paul Stamets.
2526
01:18:02,011 --> 01:18:05,847
I became an astral mycologist
2527
01:18:02,011 --> 01:18:05,847
because of awe.
2528
01:18:05,890 --> 01:18:07,600
Awe at the miracle of life.
2529
01:18:07,641 --> 01:18:09,060
[TV host] How did you feel
2530
01:18:09,101 --> 01:18:11,186
seeing a fictional
2531
01:18:09,101 --> 01:18:11,186
character on Star Trek
2532
01:18:11,229 --> 01:18:13,189
that is inspired
2533
01:18:11,229 --> 01:18:13,189
by your science?
2534
01:18:13,230 --> 01:18:14,981
I'm super honored.
2535
01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:16,943
I tuned into Star Trek when
2536
01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:16,943
I was about 12 years old.
2537
01:18:16,984 --> 01:18:20,279
Spores by their nature
2538
01:18:16,984 --> 01:18:20,279
travel through the cosmos.
2539
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,948
When they germinate,
2540
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,948
some mushrooms form.
2541
01:18:22,989 --> 01:18:26,118
Some magic mushrooms help you
2542
01:18:22,989 --> 01:18:26,118
bend time and space.
2543
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:27,869
[laughter]
2544
01:18:27,912 --> 01:18:31,082
[TV host] So, uh,
2545
01:18:27,912 --> 01:18:31,082
if I were to visit you...
2546
01:18:31,123 --> 01:18:34,710
could we have some
2547
01:18:31,123 --> 01:18:34,710
of these magic mushrooms?
2548
01:18:34,752 --> 01:18:36,337
[P. Stamets]
2549
01:18:34,752 --> 01:18:36,337
Nature provides. I don't.
2550
01:18:36,378 --> 01:18:38,713
[laughter]
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