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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:29,028 [narrator] 2 00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:29,028 There's a feeling. 3 00:00:31,949 --> 00:00:34,158 The pulse of eternal knowledge. 4 00:00:37,789 --> 00:00:39,874 When you sense the oneness... 5 00:00:42,542 --> 00:00:44,503 you are with us. 6 00:00:46,255 --> 00:00:48,215 We brought life to Earth. 7 00:00:54,429 --> 00:00:55,807 You can't see us, 8 00:00:55,847 --> 00:00:59,143 but we flourish 9 00:00:55,847 --> 00:00:59,143 all around you. 10 00:01:00,351 --> 00:01:01,896 Everywhere. 11 00:01:02,563 --> 00:01:04,188 In everything. 12 00:01:07,819 --> 00:01:09,987 And even inside you, 13 00:01:11,530 --> 00:01:13,323 whether you believe in us 14 00:01:13,364 --> 00:01:14,742 or not. 15 00:01:17,286 --> 00:01:20,623 From your first breath 16 00:01:17,286 --> 00:01:20,623 to your last, 17 00:01:22,834 --> 00:01:25,670 in darkness 18 00:01:22,834 --> 00:01:25,670 and in the light, 19 00:01:26,837 --> 00:01:30,257 we are the oldest 20 00:01:26,837 --> 00:01:30,257 and youngest. 21 00:01:30,299 --> 00:01:33,969 We are the largest 22 00:01:30,299 --> 00:01:33,969 and smallest. 23 00:01:34,012 --> 00:01:37,555 We are the wisdom 24 00:01:34,012 --> 00:01:37,555 of a billion years. 25 00:01:38,307 --> 00:01:39,808 We are creation. 26 00:01:39,850 --> 00:01:41,602 We are resurrection, 27 00:01:41,644 --> 00:01:45,480 condemnation, 28 00:01:41,644 --> 00:01:45,480 and regeneration. 29 00:01:45,522 --> 00:01:49,359 We are mushrooms. 30 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:11,507 [Paul Stamets] 31 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:11,507 Mushrooms are very clandestine 32 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:11,507 and very much the trickster. 33 00:02:11,549 --> 00:02:13,717 So, they're hiding 34 00:02:11,549 --> 00:02:13,717 from you all the time. 35 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:20,223 We're in Agarikon 36 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:20,223 territory now. 37 00:02:20,264 --> 00:02:23,019 There're some big 38 00:02:20,264 --> 00:02:23,019 living snags up here. 39 00:02:24,728 --> 00:02:27,188 It's always interesting 40 00:02:27,230 --> 00:02:29,191 and exhilarating 41 00:02:27,230 --> 00:02:29,191 to be in the old growth forest, 42 00:02:29,233 --> 00:02:30,442 but not always rewarding 43 00:02:30,484 --> 00:02:32,319 in accomplishing our mission 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,612 to find a new Agarikon strain, 45 00:02:35,531 --> 00:02:37,866 but nevertheless, 46 00:02:37,908 --> 00:02:40,036 it beats being 47 00:02:37,908 --> 00:02:40,036 in the office. 48 00:02:43,956 --> 00:02:46,542 Fungi are the grand molecular 49 00:02:43,956 --> 00:02:46,542 decomposers of nature. 50 00:02:46,584 --> 00:02:48,210 Now, what does that mean? 51 00:02:46,584 --> 00:02:48,210 Well, 52 00:02:48,252 --> 00:02:49,545 they break down wood, 53 00:02:49,586 --> 00:02:51,254 and here I'm laying 54 00:02:49,586 --> 00:02:51,254 in the forest. 55 00:02:51,295 --> 00:02:52,423 I haven't peeked yet, 56 00:02:52,463 --> 00:02:53,632 but here's a piece of wood 57 00:02:53,674 --> 00:02:55,425 laying down on the ground. 58 00:02:55,466 --> 00:02:57,468 If I was laying down 59 00:02:55,466 --> 00:02:57,468 on the ground and I died, 60 00:02:57,510 --> 00:03:00,139 fungi would leap up 61 00:02:57,510 --> 00:03:00,139 to recycle me. 62 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:02,015 Well, that's the way 63 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:02,015 of nature. 64 00:03:13,902 --> 00:03:17,322 Mushrooms represent rebirth, 65 00:03:17,364 --> 00:03:20,784 rejuvenation, regeneration. 66 00:03:24,454 --> 00:03:28,207 Fungi generate soil 67 00:03:24,454 --> 00:03:28,207 that gives life. 68 00:03:31,128 --> 00:03:32,879 The task that we face today 69 00:03:32,921 --> 00:03:35,633 is to understand 70 00:03:32,921 --> 00:03:35,633 the language of nature. 71 00:03:35,674 --> 00:03:39,594 My mission is to discover 72 00:03:35,674 --> 00:03:39,594 the language of nature 73 00:03:35,674 --> 00:03:39,594 of the fungal networks 74 00:03:39,637 --> 00:03:41,221 that communicate 75 00:03:39,637 --> 00:03:41,221 with the ecosystem, 76 00:03:44,141 --> 00:03:47,186 and I believe 77 00:03:44,141 --> 00:03:47,186 nature is intelligent. 78 00:03:51,899 --> 00:03:55,652 The fact that we lack 79 00:03:51,899 --> 00:03:55,652 the language skills 80 00:03:51,899 --> 00:03:55,652 to communicate with nature 81 00:03:55,694 --> 00:03:58,781 does not impugn the concept 82 00:03:55,694 --> 00:03:58,781 that nature's intelligent. 83 00:03:58,823 --> 00:04:02,492 It speaks to our inadequacy 84 00:03:58,823 --> 00:04:02,492 for communication. 85 00:04:14,129 --> 00:04:17,548 If we don't get our act together 86 00:04:14,129 --> 00:04:17,548 and come in commonality 87 00:04:14,129 --> 00:04:17,548 and understanding 88 00:04:17,591 --> 00:04:20,052 with the organisms 89 00:04:17,591 --> 00:04:20,052 that sustain us today, 90 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:22,428 not only will we destroy 91 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:22,428 those organisms, 92 00:04:22,471 --> 00:04:24,807 but we will 93 00:04:22,471 --> 00:04:24,807 destroy ourselves. 94 00:04:34,608 --> 00:04:37,153 Mushroom. 95 00:04:34,608 --> 00:04:37,153 It's not like a vegetable, 96 00:04:37,194 --> 00:04:40,656 and it's not like a animal, 97 00:04:37,194 --> 00:04:40,656 but it's somewhere in between. 98 00:04:43,201 --> 00:04:46,577 The fungus is its 99 00:04:43,201 --> 00:04:46,577 own kingdom altogether. 100 00:04:56,922 --> 00:05:00,591 There's over 101 00:04:56,922 --> 00:05:00,591 1.5 million species. 102 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:03,637 That's six times more 103 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:03,637 than plants. 104 00:05:03,678 --> 00:05:06,182 Of all those species 105 00:05:03,678 --> 00:05:06,182 of fungi, 106 00:05:06,223 --> 00:05:09,976 about 20,000 107 00:05:06,223 --> 00:05:09,976 produce mushrooms, 108 00:05:10,019 --> 00:05:13,730 and mushrooms come 109 00:05:10,019 --> 00:05:13,730 in an incredible diversity 110 00:05:13,771 --> 00:05:18,610 of shapes and sizes 111 00:05:13,771 --> 00:05:18,610 and colors and lifestyles. 112 00:05:18,651 --> 00:05:21,654 There are even 113 00:05:18,651 --> 00:05:21,654 bioluminescent mushrooms. 114 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:30,788 A lot of people are afraid 115 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:30,788 of mushrooms. 116 00:05:34,252 --> 00:05:37,879 People associate mushrooms 117 00:05:34,252 --> 00:05:37,879 and fungi-- you know, mold-- 118 00:05:37,922 --> 00:05:40,757 with death and decay, 119 00:05:37,922 --> 00:05:40,757 which makes sense. 120 00:05:43,468 --> 00:05:45,262 You know, 121 00:05:43,468 --> 00:05:45,262 there's a lot of fear 122 00:05:45,303 --> 00:05:48,223 because of fungi's role 123 00:05:45,303 --> 00:05:48,223 in the cycle of life. 124 00:05:51,601 --> 00:05:54,855 They decompose dead 125 00:05:51,601 --> 00:05:54,855 and dying organisms 126 00:05:54,896 --> 00:05:58,776 and move all those nutrients 127 00:05:54,896 --> 00:05:58,776 back into the cycle. 128 00:06:00,235 --> 00:06:03,113 They kind of are 129 00:06:00,235 --> 00:06:03,113 at the very end of stuff, 130 00:06:03,154 --> 00:06:04,949 but they're also 131 00:06:03,154 --> 00:06:04,949 at the beginning. 132 00:06:08,911 --> 00:06:10,954 [Michael Pollan] Once you start 133 00:06:08,911 --> 00:06:10,954 working with mushrooms, 134 00:06:10,995 --> 00:06:12,747 you get drawn in. 135 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:15,793 A really important difference 136 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:15,793 between plants and fungi 137 00:06:15,834 --> 00:06:19,254 is that plants have evolved 138 00:06:15,834 --> 00:06:19,254 to catch your eye. 139 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:23,968 When a tomato gets red, 140 00:06:24,009 --> 00:06:27,096 it is saying, 141 00:06:24,009 --> 00:06:27,096 "Hey, I'm ready. Come get me." 142 00:06:28,555 --> 00:06:31,309 The mushrooms 143 00:06:28,555 --> 00:06:31,309 don't give a shit. 144 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:34,685 They're doing their own thing, 145 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:34,685 and a lot of them are hiding. 146 00:06:38,316 --> 00:06:39,983 Every time you pick up 147 00:06:38,316 --> 00:06:39,983 a mushroom, 148 00:06:40,024 --> 00:06:42,526 you are faced 149 00:06:40,024 --> 00:06:42,526 with the omnivore's dilemma. 150 00:06:42,569 --> 00:06:44,279 Do I know enough 151 00:06:42,569 --> 00:06:44,279 to eat this? 152 00:06:44,322 --> 00:06:46,156 Should I eat this? 153 00:06:46,197 --> 00:06:47,531 Will this kill me? 154 00:06:47,574 --> 00:06:49,326 And that's one 155 00:06:47,574 --> 00:06:49,326 of the reasons why 156 00:06:49,367 --> 00:06:51,202 people are freaked out 157 00:06:49,367 --> 00:06:51,202 about mushrooms, because yeah, 158 00:06:51,245 --> 00:06:53,163 there are ones 159 00:06:51,245 --> 00:06:53,163 that can kill you. 160 00:06:53,204 --> 00:06:56,500 There are some that'll take out 161 00:06:53,204 --> 00:06:56,500 your liver or your kidneys, 162 00:06:56,540 --> 00:07:00,129 but to be honest with you, 163 00:06:56,540 --> 00:07:00,129 there's berries in the woods 164 00:06:56,540 --> 00:07:00,129 that can kill you too. 165 00:07:00,170 --> 00:07:02,755 So, it's really a matter 166 00:07:00,170 --> 00:07:02,755 of knowing your mushrooms. 167 00:07:04,048 --> 00:07:07,552 There's a huge subculture 168 00:07:04,048 --> 00:07:07,552 of mycophiles, 169 00:07:07,593 --> 00:07:09,721 of people who are fascinated 170 00:07:07,593 --> 00:07:09,721 with mushrooms. 171 00:07:09,762 --> 00:07:12,766 They hunt mushrooms 172 00:07:09,762 --> 00:07:12,766 together, and they 173 00:07:09,762 --> 00:07:12,766 eat mushrooms together, 174 00:07:12,807 --> 00:07:15,144 and they're sort 175 00:07:12,807 --> 00:07:15,144 of bloated pleasure seekers 176 00:07:15,185 --> 00:07:16,435 with a scientific bent. 177 00:07:16,478 --> 00:07:18,980 You know, 178 00:07:16,478 --> 00:07:18,980 really my kind of crowd. 179 00:07:19,023 --> 00:07:20,606 [Gary Lincoff] 180 00:07:19,023 --> 00:07:20,606 This is a tricholoma. 181 00:07:20,649 --> 00:07:22,401 [Bone] 182 00:07:20,649 --> 00:07:22,401 Grifola frondosa. 183 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:24,944 [Lincoff] This is 184 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:24,944 Cortinarius ludogriseus. 185 00:07:24,987 --> 00:07:27,406 [Bone] 186 00:07:24,987 --> 00:07:27,406 Agaricus bisporus. 187 00:07:27,447 --> 00:07:29,615 That's a Cladonia lichen. 188 00:07:29,658 --> 00:07:32,202 [Bone] So I started attending 189 00:07:29,658 --> 00:07:32,202 these festivals and forays 190 00:07:32,244 --> 00:07:33,620 and learning more and more. 191 00:07:33,661 --> 00:07:36,956 It changed the way 192 00:07:33,661 --> 00:07:36,956 I saw everything. 193 00:07:36,999 --> 00:07:40,502 Mushrooms actually 194 00:07:36,999 --> 00:07:40,502 were the window by which 195 00:07:40,543 --> 00:07:44,548 I came to understand nature 196 00:07:40,543 --> 00:07:44,548 in a deeper way. 197 00:07:44,588 --> 00:07:46,841 [Stamets] 198 00:07:44,588 --> 00:07:46,841 If we didn't have fungi, 199 00:07:46,884 --> 00:07:51,180 we would get this buildup 200 00:07:46,884 --> 00:07:51,180 of plant matter that 201 00:07:46,884 --> 00:07:51,180 would choke the Earth. 202 00:07:51,221 --> 00:07:52,930 They really are the key. 203 00:07:52,973 --> 00:07:55,225 They break down plant life 204 00:07:52,973 --> 00:07:55,225 and make it usable 205 00:07:55,266 --> 00:07:57,978 for new plant life 206 00:07:55,266 --> 00:07:57,978 and for animal life. 207 00:07:59,603 --> 00:08:03,233 [Bone] They are the digestive 208 00:07:59,603 --> 00:08:03,233 tracts of the forest. 209 00:08:04,735 --> 00:08:09,156 One of the lifestyles of fungi 210 00:08:04,735 --> 00:08:09,156 is as decomposers, 211 00:08:09,197 --> 00:08:12,367 called saprobes or rotters, 212 00:08:09,197 --> 00:08:12,367 if you want. 213 00:08:14,536 --> 00:08:19,082 The yeasts and molds used 214 00:08:14,536 --> 00:08:19,082 in making beer and wine 215 00:08:14,536 --> 00:08:19,082 and cheese 216 00:08:19,124 --> 00:08:21,043 are all saprobes. 217 00:08:21,084 --> 00:08:23,295 That's actually 218 00:08:21,084 --> 00:08:23,295 a penicillin mold 219 00:08:23,336 --> 00:08:26,382 in Gorgonzola 220 00:08:23,336 --> 00:08:26,382 and Roquefort. 221 00:08:26,423 --> 00:08:29,843 Bourbon 222 00:08:26,423 --> 00:08:29,843 is fungi-fermented corn. 223 00:08:29,884 --> 00:08:32,721 But this ability 224 00:08:29,884 --> 00:08:32,721 to break things down 225 00:08:32,763 --> 00:08:35,807 is a talent, 226 00:08:32,763 --> 00:08:35,807 if you will, 227 00:08:35,849 --> 00:08:37,725 that can be harnessed 228 00:08:37,768 --> 00:08:43,065 to help us deal with some 229 00:08:37,768 --> 00:08:43,065 of our problems like pollution. 230 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:45,692 These rotters, 231 00:08:45,734 --> 00:08:49,071 they can break down 232 00:08:45,734 --> 00:08:49,071 anything that's natural. 233 00:08:49,113 --> 00:08:50,739 That's what 234 00:08:49,113 --> 00:08:50,739 they've evolved to do. 235 00:08:50,780 --> 00:08:53,200 Anything 236 00:08:50,780 --> 00:08:53,200 that's hydrocarbon-based, 237 00:08:53,241 --> 00:08:56,202 so that includes stuff 238 00:08:53,241 --> 00:08:56,202 like oil spills, 239 00:08:56,245 --> 00:08:57,995 pollutant problems. 240 00:08:58,038 --> 00:09:00,499 That's kind 241 00:08:58,038 --> 00:09:00,499 of the truth of it. 242 00:09:00,539 --> 00:09:03,585 [Stamets] I was a part 243 00:09:00,539 --> 00:09:03,585 of this experiment. 244 00:09:03,626 --> 00:09:06,087 There were four piles saturated 245 00:09:03,626 --> 00:09:06,087 with diesel 246 00:09:06,129 --> 00:09:07,589 and other petroleum waste. 247 00:09:07,630 --> 00:09:08,966 One was a control pile, 248 00:09:09,006 --> 00:09:11,469 one pile was treated 249 00:09:09,006 --> 00:09:11,469 with enzymes, 250 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:13,261 one pile treated 251 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:13,261 with a bacteria, 252 00:09:13,303 --> 00:09:16,514 and our pile, we inoculated 253 00:09:13,303 --> 00:09:16,514 with mushroom spores. 254 00:09:16,556 --> 00:09:19,183 The fungi absorbs the oil, 255 00:09:19,225 --> 00:09:22,104 so the fungi is producing 256 00:09:19,225 --> 00:09:22,104 enzymes for oxidases 257 00:09:22,145 --> 00:09:24,940 that break 258 00:09:22,145 --> 00:09:24,940 carbon-hydrogen bonds. 259 00:09:24,981 --> 00:09:27,900 These are the same bonds that 260 00:09:24,981 --> 00:09:27,900 hold hydrocarbons together. 261 00:09:27,942 --> 00:09:30,321 So the fungi becomes 262 00:09:27,942 --> 00:09:30,321 saturated with oil. 263 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:33,782 And then when 264 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:33,782 we returned six weeks later, 265 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:33,782 all the tarps were removed. 266 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:36,784 All the other piles 267 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:36,784 were dead, dark and stinky. 268 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:36,784 We came back to our pile. 269 00:09:36,826 --> 00:09:39,203 It was covered with hundreds 270 00:09:36,826 --> 00:09:39,203 of pounds of oyster mushrooms. 271 00:09:39,245 --> 00:09:41,456 Some of these mushrooms 272 00:09:39,245 --> 00:09:41,456 are very happy mushrooms. 273 00:09:41,499 --> 00:09:43,250 They were very large, 274 00:09:43,292 --> 00:09:45,461 by showing how much nutrition 275 00:09:43,292 --> 00:09:45,461 that they could obtain. 276 00:09:45,503 --> 00:09:49,005 But something else happened, 277 00:09:45,503 --> 00:09:49,005 which was an epiphany 278 00:09:45,503 --> 00:09:49,005 in my life. 279 00:09:49,047 --> 00:09:50,131 They sporulated. 280 00:09:50,173 --> 00:09:52,801 The spores attract insects. 281 00:09:52,842 --> 00:09:55,720 Birds then came, 282 00:09:52,842 --> 00:09:55,720 bringing in seeds, 283 00:09:55,761 --> 00:09:58,182 and our pile became 284 00:09:55,761 --> 00:09:58,182 an oasis of life. 285 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:07,774 [Bone] Mushrooms are 286 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:07,774 the fruiting bodies of fungi. 287 00:10:07,816 --> 00:10:09,775 So the mushroom 288 00:10:07,816 --> 00:10:09,775 is like the apple. 289 00:10:09,817 --> 00:10:13,364 The bulk of the organism 290 00:10:09,817 --> 00:10:13,364 is growing underground 291 00:10:13,404 --> 00:10:17,326 and it's composed 292 00:10:13,404 --> 00:10:17,326 of these long threads 293 00:10:17,368 --> 00:10:19,661 and these threads grow 294 00:10:17,368 --> 00:10:19,661 one cell at a time 295 00:10:19,702 --> 00:10:22,206 and then they branch 296 00:10:19,702 --> 00:10:22,206 and rebranch, 297 00:10:22,246 --> 00:10:24,332 growing in every 298 00:10:22,246 --> 00:10:24,332 direction they can, 299 00:10:24,375 --> 00:10:26,376 even three-dimensionally. 300 00:10:26,418 --> 00:10:30,963 And that mass of threads 301 00:10:26,418 --> 00:10:30,963 is called a mycelium. 302 00:10:31,005 --> 00:10:33,551 When a stick falls 303 00:10:31,005 --> 00:10:33,551 onto the ground... 304 00:10:33,591 --> 00:10:34,884 you pull it up... 305 00:10:34,926 --> 00:10:36,302 and there's mycelium. 306 00:10:37,596 --> 00:10:40,264 It is virtually everywhere. 307 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:42,058 A mycelium has more networks 308 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:43,894 than our brain 309 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:43,894 has neural pathways, 310 00:10:43,934 --> 00:10:46,437 and works 311 00:10:43,934 --> 00:10:46,437 in much the same way, 312 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,359 with electrolytes, 313 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,359 electrical pulses. 314 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,193 They're the most 315 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,193 common species on Earth. 316 00:10:52,235 --> 00:10:54,904 They're everywhere. 317 00:10:54,946 --> 00:10:58,115 Just to give you an idea 318 00:10:54,946 --> 00:10:58,115 of how much fungi 319 00:10:54,946 --> 00:10:58,115 are in the forest, 320 00:10:58,158 --> 00:11:00,451 what you're walking through 321 00:10:58,158 --> 00:11:00,451 is about 300 miles of fungi 322 00:11:00,494 --> 00:11:02,662 under every footstep 323 00:11:00,494 --> 00:11:02,662 that you take. 324 00:11:02,703 --> 00:11:05,541 And that's 325 00:11:02,703 --> 00:11:05,541 all over the world. 326 00:11:09,043 --> 00:11:11,046 And they form 327 00:11:09,043 --> 00:11:11,046 these massive links. 328 00:11:11,087 --> 00:11:15,551 It's like a big web just 329 00:11:11,087 --> 00:11:15,551 growing through the forest. 330 00:11:26,686 --> 00:11:30,731 Mycelium that can grow out 331 00:11:26,686 --> 00:11:30,731 even just this big 332 00:11:30,774 --> 00:11:34,318 can have trillions, 333 00:11:30,774 --> 00:11:34,318 literally trillions, 334 00:11:30,774 --> 00:11:34,318 of end branchings. 335 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,529 Almost everyone knows 336 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,529 about the computer internet. 337 00:11:36,572 --> 00:11:39,240 The mycelium shares 338 00:11:36,572 --> 00:11:39,240 the same network design. 339 00:11:44,162 --> 00:11:47,625 [Pollan] 340 00:11:44,162 --> 00:11:47,625 Trees are communicating, 341 00:11:44,162 --> 00:11:47,625 using the mycelium as pathways. 342 00:11:47,665 --> 00:11:49,834 They're connecting 343 00:11:47,665 --> 00:11:49,834 one tree to another. 344 00:11:49,875 --> 00:11:52,587 They're using the mycelium too 345 00:11:49,875 --> 00:11:52,587 to feed one another. 346 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:56,466 In other words, one tree 347 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:56,466 can swap nutrients with 348 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:56,466 another tree, 349 00:11:56,508 --> 00:11:59,885 using mycelium 350 00:11:56,508 --> 00:11:59,885 as the passageway. 351 00:12:13,899 --> 00:12:17,654 [Simard] So we often 352 00:12:13,899 --> 00:12:17,654 think of kin recognition 353 00:12:13,899 --> 00:12:17,654 as an animal behavior. 354 00:12:17,696 --> 00:12:19,780 Humans, you know, 355 00:12:17,696 --> 00:12:19,780 we love our babies. 356 00:12:19,822 --> 00:12:21,658 We know it's our baby, 357 00:12:19,822 --> 00:12:21,658 and we're going to look 358 00:12:19,822 --> 00:12:21,658 after that baby. 359 00:12:21,700 --> 00:12:24,244 Well, we never thought 360 00:12:21,700 --> 00:12:24,244 that plants could do that, 361 00:12:24,286 --> 00:12:25,912 but we're finding 362 00:12:24,286 --> 00:12:25,912 in our research 363 00:12:25,953 --> 00:12:28,248 that plants can recognize 364 00:12:25,953 --> 00:12:28,248 their own kin. 365 00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:30,333 So these mother trees 366 00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:30,333 recognize their kin 367 00:12:30,375 --> 00:12:32,461 through their 368 00:12:30,375 --> 00:12:32,461 mycorrhizal networks. 369 00:12:32,503 --> 00:12:35,379 The mother tree 370 00:12:32,503 --> 00:12:35,379 and the baby seedlings 371 00:12:32,503 --> 00:12:35,379 are sending signals, 372 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:36,965 talking to each other. 373 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:46,182 When they're 374 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:46,182 connected together 375 00:12:46,224 --> 00:12:47,850 and carbon is moving 376 00:12:46,224 --> 00:12:47,850 between plants, 377 00:12:47,892 --> 00:12:50,394 the trees are supporting 378 00:12:47,892 --> 00:12:50,394 the weaker ones. 379 00:12:50,437 --> 00:12:53,649 If she knows 380 00:12:50,437 --> 00:12:53,649 that there's pests around, 381 00:12:50,437 --> 00:12:53,649 and that she's under danger, 382 00:12:53,691 --> 00:12:57,193 she will increase 383 00:12:53,691 --> 00:12:57,193 her competitive environment 384 00:12:53,691 --> 00:12:57,193 towards her own babies, 385 00:12:57,235 --> 00:12:59,363 so that they regenerate 386 00:12:57,235 --> 00:12:59,363 further away. 387 00:12:59,403 --> 00:13:01,405 It's a magical thing. 388 00:13:01,447 --> 00:13:04,075 And this could not happen 389 00:13:01,447 --> 00:13:04,075 without the fungi. 390 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:16,296 [Stamets] I'm not this 391 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:16,296 super-idealist tree hugger. 392 00:13:16,337 --> 00:13:18,881 I do hug trees occasionally. 393 00:13:16,337 --> 00:13:18,881 I do confess to that, 394 00:13:18,923 --> 00:13:20,966 but I was a logger. 395 00:13:18,923 --> 00:13:20,966 I cut the woods. 396 00:13:30,851 --> 00:13:34,398 Damn, we got a two-for-one 397 00:13:30,851 --> 00:13:34,398 on that one. 398 00:13:34,438 --> 00:13:36,899 Cutting down these trees 399 00:13:34,438 --> 00:13:36,899 and we're going to let them rot, 400 00:13:36,941 --> 00:13:38,693 but we're letting them rot 401 00:13:36,941 --> 00:13:38,693 with a purpose. 402 00:13:38,735 --> 00:13:40,445 We're letting them rot 403 00:13:38,735 --> 00:13:40,445 with shiitake mushrooms, 404 00:13:40,486 --> 00:13:42,489 which are delicious 405 00:13:40,486 --> 00:13:42,489 and medicinal 406 00:13:42,530 --> 00:13:43,615 Yes! 407 00:13:43,657 --> 00:13:45,325 September of '74, 408 00:13:45,366 --> 00:13:46,826 Paul was working as a logger 409 00:13:46,868 --> 00:13:48,870 in Darrington. 410 00:13:48,912 --> 00:13:50,455 I went up to visit him 411 00:13:48,912 --> 00:13:50,455 one weekend, 412 00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:52,415 and we were out walking 413 00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:52,415 in the woods, 414 00:13:52,456 --> 00:13:54,459 and I started showing him 415 00:13:52,456 --> 00:13:54,459 all these mushrooms, you know? 416 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:55,960 He says, "What are those?" 417 00:13:56,001 --> 00:13:57,128 I said, "You're 418 00:13:56,001 --> 00:13:57,128 looking at mushrooms," 419 00:13:57,169 --> 00:13:59,088 ...for the first time. 420 00:13:59,129 --> 00:14:00,758 We came around a corner and 421 00:13:59,129 --> 00:14:00,758 there's this purple mushroom. 422 00:14:00,798 --> 00:14:02,926 I'd never seen one 423 00:14:00,798 --> 00:14:02,926 like that before. 424 00:14:02,966 --> 00:14:04,052 It was just like 425 00:14:02,966 --> 00:14:04,052 this huge epiphany, 426 00:14:04,094 --> 00:14:05,553 like... Whoo-whoo! 427 00:14:05,596 --> 00:14:07,722 You know? 428 00:14:05,596 --> 00:14:07,722 And that's where it began. 429 00:14:07,764 --> 00:14:09,557 He just never stopped. 430 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,851 These are old red belted 431 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,851 polypores. 432 00:14:12,894 --> 00:14:15,688 Elegant polyporus. 433 00:14:12,894 --> 00:14:15,688 It's got a furry stem. 434 00:14:15,730 --> 00:14:18,066 This is a delicious 435 00:14:15,730 --> 00:14:18,066 shrimp russula mushroom, 436 00:14:18,107 --> 00:14:19,567 edible and choice, 437 00:14:19,610 --> 00:14:23,279 and it grows here 438 00:14:19,610 --> 00:14:23,279 in the old growth forest. 439 00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:28,118 [Pollan] 440 00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:28,118 It's rare in science you have 441 00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:28,118 such powerful amateurs. 442 00:14:28,158 --> 00:14:29,702 The meaning of the word 443 00:14:28,158 --> 00:14:29,702 "amateur" is a lover, 444 00:14:29,745 --> 00:14:31,955 and he loves his mushrooms. 445 00:14:31,995 --> 00:14:37,210 And he's proven that 446 00:14:31,995 --> 00:14:37,210 amateurs can do credible, 447 00:14:31,995 --> 00:14:37,210 important research. 448 00:14:37,251 --> 00:14:38,503 And that used 449 00:14:37,251 --> 00:14:38,503 to be the case. 450 00:14:38,544 --> 00:14:40,087 The 19th century obviously, 451 00:14:40,129 --> 00:14:42,005 you know, was full of 452 00:14:40,129 --> 00:14:42,005 great amateur naturalists, 453 00:14:42,048 --> 00:14:43,466 Darwin being one of them. 454 00:14:48,388 --> 00:14:52,225 [Harman] He's handed over to 455 00:14:48,388 --> 00:14:52,225 this universal consciousness. 456 00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:54,602 That's where genius 457 00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:54,602 comes from. 458 00:14:55,937 --> 00:14:58,230 Every magnificent thing 459 00:14:58,273 --> 00:14:59,691 that humans have ever achieved 460 00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:01,317 comes from that place. 461 00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:12,120 [P. Stamets] 462 00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:12,120 I grew up in a small town 463 00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:12,120 called Columbiana, Ohio. 464 00:15:12,162 --> 00:15:14,706 Very conservative, 465 00:15:12,162 --> 00:15:14,706 very religious. 466 00:15:14,748 --> 00:15:17,625 And my brother John 467 00:15:14,748 --> 00:15:17,625 went to Yale, 468 00:15:17,668 --> 00:15:19,293 and my brother Bill 469 00:15:17,668 --> 00:15:19,293 went to Cornell. 470 00:15:19,336 --> 00:15:22,379 So we were 471 00:15:19,336 --> 00:15:22,379 an academic family. 472 00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:25,466 But I had 473 00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:25,466 a severe stuttering habit 474 00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:29,513 that greatly interfered with 475 00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:29,513 my ability to express myself. 476 00:15:29,553 --> 00:15:32,557 I went through six years 477 00:15:29,553 --> 00:15:32,557 of speech therapy. 478 00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:34,893 I could not speak 479 00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:34,893 a single sentence 480 00:15:34,933 --> 00:15:37,729 without stuttering 481 00:15:34,933 --> 00:15:37,729 profusely, 482 00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:40,606 and nothing in speech therapy 483 00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:40,606 could help me. 484 00:15:42,692 --> 00:15:45,110 I couldn't look at 485 00:15:42,692 --> 00:15:45,110 people in their eyes. 486 00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:48,239 So all my life, 487 00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:48,239 I stared at the ground. 488 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,033 Anybody came up to me, 489 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,033 I'd stare at the ground. 490 00:15:51,075 --> 00:15:52,994 I found fossils 491 00:15:51,075 --> 00:15:52,994 and mushrooms. 492 00:16:03,421 --> 00:16:06,090 [wind blowing] 493 00:16:08,509 --> 00:16:12,346 [narrator] 494 00:16:08,509 --> 00:16:12,346 We are all of the stars. 495 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:15,057 My kingdom was born 496 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:15,057 from the heavens 497 00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:17,894 four and a half billion 498 00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:17,894 years ago. 499 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,274 We are the pioneers. 500 00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:27,528 We climbed out of the sea 501 00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:27,528 to create the fertile soil, 502 00:16:29,072 --> 00:16:33,493 and set the stage 503 00:16:29,072 --> 00:16:33,493 for all of life. 504 00:16:39,582 --> 00:16:42,210 [P. Stamets] In South Africa, 505 00:16:39,582 --> 00:16:42,210 in the sediments of lava, 506 00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:45,171 they have found 507 00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:45,171 fungus-like organisms, 508 00:16:45,212 --> 00:16:50,509 mycelium fossils in the lava 509 00:16:45,212 --> 00:16:50,509 2.4 billion years old. 510 00:16:50,552 --> 00:16:55,557 This is the oldest record of a 511 00:16:50,552 --> 00:16:55,557 multicellular organism on Earth. 512 00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:01,437 This year another 513 00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:01,437 fossil was found in 514 00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:01,437 the sediments of Brazil. 515 00:17:01,479 --> 00:17:03,941 It's 113 million years old 516 00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:06,358 and it's a perfectly 517 00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:06,358 shaped mushroom. 518 00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:14,116 We divided from fungi 519 00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:14,116 about 650 million years ago. 520 00:17:14,157 --> 00:17:15,576 One branch led to fungi. 521 00:17:15,618 --> 00:17:20,038 The other branch led 522 00:17:15,618 --> 00:17:20,038 to animals. 523 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,544 We chose a path 524 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,544 of encirculating our nutrients 525 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,544 in sort of a sac, the stomach. 526 00:17:24,586 --> 00:17:26,671 The mycelium 527 00:17:24,586 --> 00:17:26,671 remained underground, 528 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:29,590 externally digesting 529 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:29,590 its nutrients. 530 00:17:33,302 --> 00:17:35,471 Biodiversity surged... 531 00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:45,189 until we had these great 532 00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:45,189 cataclysmic extinction events, 533 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:48,276 and when the asteroids 534 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:48,276 impacted the Earth, bam! 535 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,320 Enormous amounts of debris was 536 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,320 jettisoned in the atmosphere. 537 00:17:51,362 --> 00:17:53,114 Sunlight was cut off. 538 00:17:54,991 --> 00:17:56,867 Plants die, animals die... 539 00:17:58,201 --> 00:18:01,122 and fungi 540 00:17:58,201 --> 00:18:01,122 inherited the Earth. 541 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:09,547 From these extinction events, 542 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:09,547 there's one lesson. 543 00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:13,759 Those organisms that 544 00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:13,759 paired with fungi survived. 545 00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:17,806 We are more closely 546 00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:17,806 related to fungi 547 00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:20,851 than we are to 548 00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:20,851 any other kingdom. 549 00:18:20,892 --> 00:18:24,269 What this means is that 550 00:18:20,892 --> 00:18:24,269 we are descendants of mycelium. 551 00:18:24,311 --> 00:18:27,523 Mycelium is 552 00:18:24,311 --> 00:18:27,523 the mother of us all. 553 00:18:35,365 --> 00:18:37,784 [Pollan] Living creatures 554 00:18:35,365 --> 00:18:37,784 like fungi are intelligent 555 00:18:37,826 --> 00:18:41,203 in the sense that they respond 556 00:18:37,826 --> 00:18:41,203 to their environment, 557 00:18:41,244 --> 00:18:43,748 they seek out food, 558 00:18:41,244 --> 00:18:43,748 and they defend themselves. 559 00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:47,417 They solve problems, 560 00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:47,417 and that's intelligence. 561 00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:59,137 [Bone] A mycelium can 562 00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:59,137 theoretically live forever 563 00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:02,099 as long as it 564 00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:02,099 has food to grow into, 565 00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:06,269 which is why the oldest 566 00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:06,269 and largest organism on Earth 567 00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:07,855 is a fungus. 568 00:19:07,897 --> 00:19:10,901 It lives on top 569 00:19:07,897 --> 00:19:10,901 of a mountain in Oregon. 570 00:19:10,942 --> 00:19:12,527 It's like thousands 571 00:19:10,942 --> 00:19:12,527 of acres, 572 00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,820 and it's thousands 573 00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,820 of years old. 574 00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:22,578 The mushroom is the organ 575 00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:22,578 of sexual reproduction 576 00:19:22,619 --> 00:19:27,041 for the spore 577 00:19:22,619 --> 00:19:27,041 of the fungus. 578 00:19:27,084 --> 00:19:30,045 Fungi don't have seeds. 579 00:19:27,084 --> 00:19:30,045 They have spores. 580 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:34,632 The spores are extremely tiny, 581 00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:39,302 little lightweight 582 00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:39,302 gene-carrying systems. 583 00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:41,765 When they land on something 584 00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:41,765 they can eat, 585 00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:44,433 they break down the food 586 00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:44,433 that they're on, 587 00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:46,894 and then reabsorb 588 00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:46,894 the nutrients 589 00:19:46,936 --> 00:19:48,605 because you need 590 00:19:46,936 --> 00:19:48,605 to move on 591 00:19:48,645 --> 00:19:52,025 and find another place 592 00:19:48,645 --> 00:19:52,025 where there's food. 593 00:19:55,112 --> 00:20:01,659 The mushroom releases zillions 594 00:19:55,112 --> 00:20:01,659 of spores into the atmosphere. 595 00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:03,452 There's so many spore. 596 00:20:03,493 --> 00:20:05,829 I mean, 597 00:20:03,493 --> 00:20:05,829 you take one breath... 598 00:20:07,082 --> 00:20:09,500 you just breathed in 599 00:20:07,082 --> 00:20:09,500 ten fungal spore. 600 00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:13,546 So they are everywhere. 601 00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:13,546 We've evolved with them. 602 00:20:15,213 --> 00:20:17,258 [Harman] 603 00:20:15,213 --> 00:20:17,258 When you see what mushrooms do, 604 00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:20,720 it's kind of spooky 605 00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:20,720 in the most wonderful way. 606 00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:22,721 I mean, they correct 607 00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:22,721 everything on Earth. 608 00:20:22,763 --> 00:20:24,222 They support life, 609 00:20:24,265 --> 00:20:25,474 they convert life, 610 00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:26,977 they carry life. 611 00:20:27,018 --> 00:20:28,811 They're remarkable beings. 612 00:20:30,814 --> 00:20:33,523 If humans become extinct... 613 00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:37,361 what's the next species 614 00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:37,361 that will take over the Earth? 615 00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:40,824 Maybe mycelium already are 616 00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:40,824 the dominant species, 617 00:20:40,865 --> 00:20:43,826 not just because they're the 618 00:20:40,865 --> 00:20:43,826 most common species on Earth. 619 00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:45,787 They're everywhere. 620 00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:47,747 I mean, you look at humans. 621 00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:47,747 There's seven billion of us, 622 00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:49,165 but we're just one little 623 00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:49,165 creature wandering around, 624 00:20:49,207 --> 00:20:50,834 incredibly vulnerable, 625 00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:53,795 and don't survive easily 626 00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:53,795 if we're assaulted. 627 00:20:53,836 --> 00:20:57,464 [reporter] Hurricane Harvey 628 00:20:53,836 --> 00:20:57,464 has started to make landfall 629 00:20:57,507 --> 00:20:59,092 here on the Texas coast. 630 00:20:59,134 --> 00:21:01,803 More than 30,000 people 631 00:20:59,134 --> 00:21:01,803 are without power, 632 00:21:01,845 --> 00:21:04,681 and things are only 633 00:21:01,845 --> 00:21:04,681 expected to get worse. 634 00:21:04,721 --> 00:21:06,598 [reporter 2] Puerto Rico 635 00:21:04,721 --> 00:21:06,598 has had the worst storm 636 00:21:06,641 --> 00:21:07,767 in about a century, 637 00:21:07,808 --> 00:21:09,393 and it's struggling 638 00:21:09,434 --> 00:21:11,020 to understand the new normal 639 00:21:11,061 --> 00:21:13,772 of months ahead 640 00:21:11,061 --> 00:21:13,772 without basic services. 641 00:21:13,815 --> 00:21:17,902 [man] Climate change is one 642 00:21:13,815 --> 00:21:17,902 of the biggest threats 643 00:21:13,815 --> 00:21:17,902 to our present world, 644 00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:20,403 to the future of our planet. 645 00:21:27,037 --> 00:21:30,080 [Simard] CO2 is our 646 00:21:27,037 --> 00:21:30,080 biggest greenhouse gas. 647 00:21:30,123 --> 00:21:32,000 As plants photosynthesize, 648 00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:36,420 they literally inhale CO2 649 00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:36,420 while exhaling oxygen. 650 00:21:41,384 --> 00:21:43,552 CO2 is what plants 651 00:21:41,384 --> 00:21:43,552 photosynthesize, 652 00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:47,097 and they take that carbon, 653 00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:47,097 and they put it in 654 00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:47,097 different places. 655 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,017 They put it in their leaves, 656 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,017 in their trunks, 657 00:21:49,058 --> 00:21:52,811 but they put 70% of it, 658 00:21:49,058 --> 00:21:52,811 we're finding, below ground. 659 00:21:58,608 --> 00:22:02,320 And the root systems trade 660 00:21:58,608 --> 00:22:02,320 that carbon for nutrients. 661 00:22:02,363 --> 00:22:07,035 The carbon ends up in 662 00:22:02,363 --> 00:22:07,035 the fungal cell walls, 663 00:22:02,363 --> 00:22:07,035 where it's stored. 664 00:22:13,083 --> 00:22:15,876 This fuels the 665 00:22:13,083 --> 00:22:15,876 microbial community 666 00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:17,502 and all the other parts 667 00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:17,502 of the food web, 668 00:22:17,545 --> 00:22:18,880 like the mites and nematodes, 669 00:22:18,922 --> 00:22:20,882 and they start 670 00:22:18,922 --> 00:22:20,882 cycling nutrients 671 00:22:20,923 --> 00:22:22,759 through that 672 00:22:20,923 --> 00:22:22,759 eating process. 673 00:22:24,094 --> 00:22:25,595 So the fungi are 674 00:22:24,094 --> 00:22:25,595 really important 675 00:22:25,635 --> 00:22:28,013 in stabilizing 676 00:22:25,635 --> 00:22:28,013 carbon in soils. 677 00:22:28,056 --> 00:22:30,099 Once the carbon is stable, 678 00:22:30,141 --> 00:22:35,063 it can stay there stored 679 00:22:30,141 --> 00:22:35,063 for thousands of years. 680 00:22:35,105 --> 00:22:38,275 We know, for example, 681 00:22:35,105 --> 00:22:38,275 that carbon can move 682 00:22:35,105 --> 00:22:38,275 from plant to plant, 683 00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:42,612 and it evens out 684 00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:42,612 the distribution of 685 00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:42,612 carbon in that system. 686 00:22:42,653 --> 00:22:44,488 They're working really hard. 687 00:22:44,529 --> 00:22:46,699 If we maintain the plant, 688 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:49,243 the forest, and the natural 689 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:49,243 fungal community, 690 00:22:49,286 --> 00:22:50,869 we've got a natural engine 691 00:22:50,912 --> 00:22:52,913 that's just storing 692 00:22:50,912 --> 00:22:52,913 carbon below ground. 693 00:22:52,955 --> 00:22:55,083 So it's essential. 694 00:22:55,125 --> 00:22:56,875 You know, 695 00:22:55,125 --> 00:22:56,875 it's there for us, right? 696 00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:58,501 It's right 697 00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:58,501 in front of us. 698 00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:05,509 [narrator] 699 00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:05,509 We do more than make mushrooms. 700 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:10,472 We have the ability to 701 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:10,472 do so much more than 702 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:10,472 just breakdown matter. 703 00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:15,019 Like the fruit 704 00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:15,019 of our labor, 705 00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:18,772 most of you have only scratched 706 00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:18,772 the surface of our usefulness. 707 00:23:21,858 --> 00:23:24,528 We are the changers. 708 00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:35,580 [P. Stamets] I was 14 or 15 709 00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:35,580 years of age, I believe, 710 00:23:35,623 --> 00:23:37,750 when my brother John 711 00:23:35,623 --> 00:23:37,750 gave me a book... 712 00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:40,961 called Altered States 713 00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:40,961 of Consciousness. 714 00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:42,046 And within that book, 715 00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:43,256 Andy Weil was referenced 716 00:23:43,298 --> 00:23:44,632 on expanded consciousness, 717 00:23:44,673 --> 00:23:46,467 and I got really excited. 718 00:23:48,802 --> 00:23:52,015 I was going to charismatic 719 00:23:48,802 --> 00:23:52,015 Christian revival meetings 720 00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:53,723 and seeing people 721 00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:53,723 being saved, 722 00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:55,726 but it kind of was cool 723 00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:55,726 from my perspective 724 00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:57,603 that they're achieving this 725 00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:57,603 altered state of consciousness. 726 00:23:57,644 --> 00:24:00,397 So I thought that was part 727 00:23:57,644 --> 00:24:00,397 of all the same idea here. 728 00:24:01,606 --> 00:24:04,484 I really owe credit 729 00:24:01,606 --> 00:24:04,484 to Andrew Weil. 730 00:24:06,403 --> 00:24:08,655 [Andrew Weil] I think he 731 00:24:06,403 --> 00:24:08,655 read one of my early books 732 00:24:08,698 --> 00:24:10,700 in which I wrote 733 00:24:08,698 --> 00:24:10,700 about mushroom hunting 734 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:12,785 and psychedelic mushrooms 735 00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:15,372 and made some reference 736 00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:15,372 to medicinal mushrooms as well. 737 00:24:15,413 --> 00:24:17,039 It was like 738 00:24:15,413 --> 00:24:17,039 a turning point. 739 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,000 You know, 740 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,000 I certainly was awakened. 741 00:24:19,041 --> 00:24:22,420 Other people were thinking 742 00:24:19,041 --> 00:24:22,420 about expanding consciousness. 743 00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:25,548 And so I gave this book 744 00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:25,548 to my friend Ryan Snyder. 745 00:24:25,588 --> 00:24:27,967 So Ryan took it home 746 00:24:25,588 --> 00:24:27,967 and a few days later, 747 00:24:28,009 --> 00:24:29,509 I said, 748 00:24:28,009 --> 00:24:29,509 "Ryan, where's my book?" 749 00:24:29,551 --> 00:24:32,388 And he told me 750 00:24:29,551 --> 00:24:32,388 his dad had burned it. 751 00:24:33,306 --> 00:24:36,308 I said, "Burned my book?" 752 00:24:36,351 --> 00:24:39,979 Rather than giving it back 753 00:24:36,351 --> 00:24:39,979 to me or calling my parents, 754 00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:43,316 he actually took the initiative 755 00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:43,316 to burn this book. 756 00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:49,613 I owe Ryan Snyder's father 757 00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:49,613 a deep debt of gratitude 758 00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:54,368 because that single act 759 00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:54,368 galvanized my interest 760 00:24:54,411 --> 00:24:59,123 saying, "If this is so powerful 761 00:24:54,411 --> 00:24:59,123 to cause a person to do 762 00:24:54,411 --> 00:24:59,123 such a bizarre act, 763 00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:03,169 then I should examine 764 00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:03,169 what this subject's all about." 765 00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:09,674 [Charles Grob] Human existence 766 00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:09,674 on this Earth goes back 767 00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:12,803 an extraordinarily long 768 00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:12,803 period of time, 769 00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:17,267 most of which we have 770 00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:17,267 no identifiable information. 771 00:25:17,307 --> 00:25:19,643 It's entirely plausible, 772 00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:22,480 given that the indigenous 773 00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:22,480 people all around the world 774 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,690 know intimately 775 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,690 all the plant life, 776 00:25:24,731 --> 00:25:27,526 and will know the different 777 00:25:24,731 --> 00:25:27,526 combinations of plant life 778 00:25:27,567 --> 00:25:29,903 that our 779 00:25:27,567 --> 00:25:29,903 prehistoric ancestors, 780 00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:35,742 they had come across the plants 781 00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:35,742 that do alter consciousness. 782 00:25:35,785 --> 00:25:37,744 [Dennis McKenna] 783 00:25:35,785 --> 00:25:37,744 In about two million years, 784 00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:40,663 the human cortex 785 00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:40,663 tripled in size, 786 00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:45,711 and the brain exploded 787 00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:45,711 over a ridiculously short span 788 00:25:45,752 --> 00:25:47,880 of evolutionary time. 789 00:25:47,922 --> 00:25:51,342 Two million years is nothing 790 00:25:47,922 --> 00:25:51,342 when it comes to evolution. 791 00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:53,302 What triggered that? 792 00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:55,011 [P. Stamets] 793 00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:55,011 In the late 1970s, 794 00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:57,181 Terrence McKenna 795 00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:57,181 and his brother Dennis McKenna 796 00:25:57,222 --> 00:26:01,435 were the first that proposed 797 00:25:57,222 --> 00:26:01,435 the Stoned Ape hypothesis. 798 00:26:01,478 --> 00:26:03,895 It is known now 799 00:26:01,478 --> 00:26:03,895 that 22 primates-- 800 00:26:03,938 --> 00:26:08,192 23, including us-- 801 00:26:03,938 --> 00:26:08,192 consume mushrooms. 802 00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:11,237 And the idea is our ancestors, 803 00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:11,237 they came out of the trees 804 00:26:11,278 --> 00:26:12,363 and went across the savannah, 805 00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:13,448 would be tracking animals 806 00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:15,240 that were pooping. 807 00:26:15,282 --> 00:26:17,034 Well, in the subtropics, 808 00:26:17,076 --> 00:26:19,787 the most common mushroom 809 00:26:17,076 --> 00:26:19,787 coming out of those cow patties 810 00:26:19,828 --> 00:26:23,333 is Psilocybe cubensis, 811 00:26:19,828 --> 00:26:23,333 a potent magic mushroom. 812 00:26:23,374 --> 00:26:24,750 [McKenna] 813 00:26:23,374 --> 00:26:24,750 One thing that mushrooms 814 00:26:24,791 --> 00:26:26,669 and other psychedelics 815 00:26:24,791 --> 00:26:26,669 do reliably 816 00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:30,256 is they induce 817 00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:30,256 a synesthesia. 818 00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:35,635 Synesthesia is the perception 819 00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:35,635 of one sensory modality 820 00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:35,635 in another, 821 00:26:35,677 --> 00:26:37,596 hearing colors, for example, 822 00:26:37,637 --> 00:26:39,890 or seeing music. 823 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,694 You have these profound 824 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,694 experiences 825 00:26:52,736 --> 00:26:56,406 and you have to put yourself 826 00:26:52,736 --> 00:26:56,406 in their place 827 00:26:56,449 --> 00:26:59,285 and imagine what the impact 828 00:26:56,449 --> 00:26:59,285 of such an experience 829 00:26:59,326 --> 00:27:01,453 must have been 830 00:26:59,326 --> 00:27:01,453 on an early hominid. 831 00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:03,955 These magic mushrooms open up 832 00:27:03,998 --> 00:27:07,376 the floodgates of 833 00:27:03,998 --> 00:27:07,376 information you receive. 834 00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:09,711 Basically, you can think of it 835 00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:09,711 as a contact fluid 836 00:27:09,752 --> 00:27:13,089 between the synapses 837 00:27:09,752 --> 00:27:13,089 within the brain-- Wow! 838 00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,509 What a competitive 839 00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,509 advantage, 840 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:15,718 especially if you're working 841 00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:17,094 with a geometry of weapons, 842 00:27:17,135 --> 00:27:18,887 or having to put 843 00:27:17,135 --> 00:27:18,887 together something 844 00:27:18,929 --> 00:27:22,016 that will give you a better 845 00:27:18,929 --> 00:27:22,016 chance of survival. 846 00:27:22,057 --> 00:27:24,977 The fact that this happened 847 00:27:22,057 --> 00:27:24,977 not once, not twice, 848 00:27:25,019 --> 00:27:27,688 but millions 849 00:27:25,019 --> 00:27:27,688 upon millions of times 850 00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:29,272 over millions of years 851 00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:31,192 is a very plausible 852 00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:31,192 explanation 853 00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:34,987 for the tripling of the brain 854 00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:34,987 two million years ago. 855 00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:38,865 [McKenna] It's not so simple 856 00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:38,865 to say that they ate 857 00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:38,865 psilocybin mushrooms 858 00:27:38,907 --> 00:27:40,284 and suddenly the brain mutated. 859 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,161 I think it's more 860 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,161 complex than that, 861 00:27:42,202 --> 00:27:44,954 but I think it was a factor. 862 00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:46,832 It was like a software 863 00:27:46,874 --> 00:27:51,628 to program this neurologically 864 00:27:46,874 --> 00:27:51,628 modern hardware to think, 865 00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:55,007 to have cognition, 866 00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:55,007 to have language 867 00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:57,551 because language 868 00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:57,551 is essentially synesthesia. 869 00:27:57,594 --> 00:27:59,261 Language 870 00:27:57,594 --> 00:27:59,261 is just association 871 00:27:59,302 --> 00:28:01,388 with apparently 872 00:27:59,302 --> 00:28:01,388 meaningless sound 873 00:28:01,431 --> 00:28:05,643 except that it's associated 874 00:28:01,431 --> 00:28:05,643 with the complex of meaning. 875 00:28:05,683 --> 00:28:09,396 A great deal of the brain's 876 00:28:05,683 --> 00:28:09,396 real estate, you might say, 877 00:28:09,439 --> 00:28:11,523 is devoted to the generation 878 00:28:11,566 --> 00:28:14,151 and/or the comprehension 879 00:28:11,566 --> 00:28:14,151 of language. 880 00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:17,695 Those neural structures 881 00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:17,695 are not found in our ancestors. 882 00:28:17,738 --> 00:28:20,657 That's a human trait 883 00:28:17,738 --> 00:28:20,657 to have so much physiology 884 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:24,287 devoted to generating 885 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:24,287 and understanding language, 886 00:28:24,327 --> 00:28:26,872 and that's a reflection 887 00:28:24,327 --> 00:28:26,872 of evolutionary advance 888 00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:29,083 that made us 889 00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:29,083 what we are. 890 00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:36,173 [P. Stamets] I couldn't 891 00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:36,173 get these mushrooms for 892 00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:36,173 the longest time. 893 00:28:36,214 --> 00:28:37,840 When I was in Ohio, 894 00:28:37,883 --> 00:28:41,095 I actually purchased 895 00:28:37,883 --> 00:28:41,095 a bag of magic mushrooms, 896 00:28:41,136 --> 00:28:43,180 but I had no guide. 897 00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:46,933 I had no recommendations 898 00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:46,933 for how much to consume. 899 00:28:46,976 --> 00:28:49,728 So I had a bag about this big, 900 00:28:46,976 --> 00:28:49,728 so I thought, 901 00:28:49,769 --> 00:28:51,771 "Well, that's probably 902 00:28:49,769 --> 00:28:51,771 one dose." 903 00:28:51,814 --> 00:28:54,023 So I consumed the bag! 904 00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:55,858 Now, for those of you 905 00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:55,858 who don't know, 906 00:28:55,901 --> 00:28:57,528 this is like ten times more 907 00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:00,114 than you probably need 908 00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:00,114 to consume. 909 00:29:00,155 --> 00:29:01,657 It was a warm summer day, 910 00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:05,368 and there was a beautiful 911 00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:05,368 big, big tree, 912 00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:06,537 an oak tree, 913 00:29:06,578 --> 00:29:07,871 and then I noticed 914 00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:09,499 the black clouds 915 00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:09,499 on the horizon, 916 00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:11,875 and I realized there 917 00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:11,875 was a storm coming. 918 00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:14,461 And I thought, "This is great. 919 00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:14,461 There's great visual. 920 00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:14,461 The storm coming." 921 00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:17,173 And I thought, 922 00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:17,173 "Well I'm going to climb 923 00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:17,173 to the top of the tree." 924 00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:18,798 So I'm starting 925 00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:18,798 to feel the effects. 926 00:29:25,515 --> 00:29:30,560 I'm getting waves 927 00:29:25,515 --> 00:29:30,560 where the air becomes a liquid, 928 00:29:30,603 --> 00:29:32,395 and... 929 00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:33,896 you'd have this 930 00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:33,896 distortion field, 931 00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:36,192 go through 932 00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:36,192 the visual landscape. 933 00:29:36,232 --> 00:29:38,234 I've never seen that before, 934 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:41,864 and go, "Oh wow, this is what 935 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:41,864 they were talking about." 936 00:29:41,904 --> 00:29:44,616 And I see the boiling clouds 937 00:29:41,904 --> 00:29:44,616 are coming closer, 938 00:29:44,659 --> 00:29:46,576 but they're looking angry now. 939 00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:49,288 And then the 940 00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:49,288 lightning strikes would go... 941 00:29:49,329 --> 00:29:51,665 [imitating lightning strikes] 942 00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,916 and then all these 943 00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,916 geometrical fractals 944 00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:56,378 would emanate out 945 00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:56,378 of the lightning strikes. 946 00:29:56,420 --> 00:29:57,547 And pretty soon, 947 00:29:57,587 --> 00:29:58,714 I have these overlying mosaics 948 00:29:58,756 --> 00:30:00,215 of mathematical patterns 949 00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:02,884 and geometric figures 950 00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:02,884 of multiple colors 951 00:30:02,925 --> 00:30:05,221 that are swimming 952 00:30:02,925 --> 00:30:05,221 in this field of vision 953 00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:07,515 that these waves 954 00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:07,515 were flying through. 955 00:30:07,557 --> 00:30:10,727 I've never in my life seen 956 00:30:07,557 --> 00:30:10,727 anything like that before. 957 00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:14,480 Wind's increasing 958 00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:14,480 and the rains would come, 959 00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:16,773 and I became extremely scared. 960 00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:19,192 And then also I realize 961 00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:19,192 I'm on the top of a hill, 962 00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,695 I got a lightning storm 963 00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,695 in the tallest tree. 964 00:30:21,738 --> 00:30:22,820 Not the best place to be 965 00:30:22,863 --> 00:30:23,864 when you're going to choose 966 00:30:23,905 --> 00:30:24,990 a spiritual experience. 967 00:30:25,031 --> 00:30:26,659 And so I held onto the tree 968 00:30:26,701 --> 00:30:27,951 for dear life, 969 00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:29,494 and that tree 970 00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:29,494 was my pillar, 971 00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:31,163 back into the core 972 00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:31,163 of the Earth. 973 00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,584 And I felt secure as long 974 00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,584 as I held onto the tree. 975 00:30:34,625 --> 00:30:36,711 Lightning strikes all around. 976 00:30:34,625 --> 00:30:36,711 Thunderclaps. 977 00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:39,128 One second between 978 00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:39,128 the lightning strike 979 00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:39,128 and a thunderclap. 980 00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:42,048 You knew it was coming 981 00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:42,048 closer and closer. 982 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:46,095 I was terrified 983 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:46,095 that I wouldn't survive, 984 00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:48,971 And through this 985 00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:48,971 "terror-rific" experience, 986 00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:50,932 terrifying and terrific 987 00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:50,932 at the same time, 988 00:30:50,973 --> 00:30:52,559 I'm up in this tree 989 00:30:50,973 --> 00:30:52,559 and I'm saying, 990 00:30:52,602 --> 00:30:54,394 "Well, what should I focus on?" 991 00:30:54,436 --> 00:30:56,355 I said, "Well, Stamets, 992 00:30:54,436 --> 00:30:56,355 you're not stupid. 993 00:30:56,396 --> 00:30:59,107 But you stutter all the time." 994 00:30:59,148 --> 00:31:03,278 And so I thought I need 995 00:30:59,148 --> 00:31:03,278 to stop stuttering. 996 00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:05,698 And so I said to myself, 997 00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:05,698 "Stop stuttering. 998 00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:07,784 Stop stuttering now." 999 00:31:07,825 --> 00:31:10,160 A little inner voice 1000 00:31:07,825 --> 00:31:10,160 in my head. 1001 00:31:10,201 --> 00:31:12,788 "You hear me? 1002 00:31:10,201 --> 00:31:12,788 Stop stuttering now." 1003 00:31:12,829 --> 00:31:14,414 I started saying that. 1004 00:31:14,457 --> 00:31:16,291 "Stop stuttering now. 1005 00:31:14,457 --> 00:31:16,291 Stop stuttering now." 1006 00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:18,669 Hundreds, hundreds, hundreds, 1007 00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:18,669 thousands of times. 1008 00:31:24,258 --> 00:31:25,634 After the storm had passed, 1009 00:31:25,675 --> 00:31:27,761 I came down from 1010 00:31:25,675 --> 00:31:27,761 the tree drenched, 1011 00:31:27,804 --> 00:31:29,596 soaked to the bone, 1012 00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:31,723 you know, 1013 00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:31,723 in love with life, 1014 00:31:31,766 --> 00:31:33,976 with nature, 1015 00:31:31,766 --> 00:31:33,976 in love with that tree. 1016 00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:36,269 That tree was so important 1017 00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:36,269 to me. 1018 00:31:36,311 --> 00:31:37,895 And I went home, 1019 00:31:37,938 --> 00:31:39,272 and I went to bed. 1020 00:31:39,315 --> 00:31:40,650 I didn't see anybody. 1021 00:31:40,691 --> 00:31:42,108 And the next morning 1022 00:31:40,691 --> 00:31:42,108 I woke up, 1023 00:31:42,151 --> 00:31:45,194 and there was a really 1024 00:31:42,151 --> 00:31:45,194 attractive lady 1025 00:31:45,237 --> 00:31:46,697 that I liked a lot, 1026 00:31:46,739 --> 00:31:48,490 but I could never stare 1027 00:31:46,739 --> 00:31:48,490 at her in the eyes, 1028 00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:50,701 because I was afraid to stutter 1029 00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:50,701 and embarrass myself. 1030 00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,746 So better to avoid 1031 00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,746 social contact than 1032 00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,746 have social contact, 1033 00:31:53,788 --> 00:31:55,832 even though I was 1034 00:31:53,788 --> 00:31:55,832 really attracted to her. 1035 00:31:55,873 --> 00:31:57,165 And she liked me, 1036 00:31:57,207 --> 00:31:58,500 but I didn't know 1037 00:31:57,207 --> 00:31:58,500 what to do with it, 1038 00:31:58,541 --> 00:31:59,836 with that tension. 1039 00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:01,336 And so she was walking past me, 1040 00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:02,672 and she looked at me, 1041 00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:04,047 and she said, 1042 00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:04,047 "Good morning, Paul." 1043 00:32:04,088 --> 00:32:05,298 And for the first time 1044 00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:06,800 I looked her straight 1045 00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:06,800 in the eye 1046 00:32:06,843 --> 00:32:09,135 and I said, 1047 00:32:06,843 --> 00:32:09,135 "Good morning. How are you?" 1048 00:32:09,178 --> 00:32:11,971 And I stopped stuttering 1049 00:32:09,178 --> 00:32:11,971 in one session. 1050 00:32:22,023 --> 00:32:25,819 [Skrillex playing on radio ] 1051 00:32:34,076 --> 00:32:36,413 This is the newest thing 1052 00:32:34,076 --> 00:32:36,413 my employees are listening to. 1053 00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:39,415 My employees are my best 1054 00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:39,415 source of new music. 1055 00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:42,627 We love loud music 1056 00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:42,627 for the mushrooms 1057 00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:42,627 in the laboratories. 1058 00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:46,339 It causes everyone 1059 00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:46,339 to be synchronized. 1060 00:32:46,382 --> 00:32:48,759 We have a lot of nonverbal 1061 00:32:46,382 --> 00:32:48,759 communication in laboratories. 1062 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,219 You're not allowed to talk. 1063 00:32:50,259 --> 00:32:51,929 Your mouth spreads bacteria. 1064 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,596 So we try 1065 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,596 to minimize talking. 1066 00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:55,807 So a lot of it is done 1067 00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:55,807 by gestures and knowing. 1068 00:32:55,849 --> 00:32:58,810 So, why not have it 1069 00:32:55,849 --> 00:32:58,810 with loud music? 1070 00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:02,690 My dad was a businessman. 1071 00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:04,733 I swore 1072 00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:04,733 I'd never become one, 1073 00:33:04,775 --> 00:33:07,443 but I wanted to be 1074 00:33:04,775 --> 00:33:07,443 independent, 1075 00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:09,988 so I created a little 1076 00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:09,988 mail-order business 1077 00:33:10,029 --> 00:33:13,534 in order to supply myself 1078 00:33:10,029 --> 00:33:13,534 and other people who had 1079 00:33:10,029 --> 00:33:13,534 like interest in mushrooms. 1080 00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:16,202 When we started the business, 1081 00:33:16,244 --> 00:33:18,329 it was extremely 1082 00:33:16,244 --> 00:33:18,329 difficult back then, 1083 00:33:18,372 --> 00:33:20,123 and we didn't have 1084 00:33:18,372 --> 00:33:20,123 the resources. 1085 00:33:20,164 --> 00:33:21,541 We were putting 1086 00:33:20,164 --> 00:33:21,541 little advertisements 1087 00:33:21,584 --> 00:33:23,460 in Organic Gardening magazine 1088 00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:26,713 back when there was only 1089 00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:26,713 three television stations. 1090 00:33:28,632 --> 00:33:29,759 I invented this business 1091 00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:30,968 so I could buy equipment 1092 00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:33,220 for my laboratory wholesale. 1093 00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,602 Amazing to me, we have 1094 00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,602 nearly a hundred employees 1095 00:33:39,643 --> 00:33:42,688 and thousands 1096 00:33:39,643 --> 00:33:42,688 of media outlets. 1097 00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:46,191 These mushrooms 1098 00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:46,191 were so powerful to me 1099 00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:49,569 that I realized that 1100 00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:49,569 I wanted to study them. 1101 00:33:49,612 --> 00:33:52,489 This mushroom that's known as 1102 00:33:49,612 --> 00:33:52,489 reishi, or lingzhi, 1103 00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,784 the mushroom 1104 00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,784 of immortality. 1105 00:33:54,825 --> 00:33:57,536 And it's one of the most amazing 1106 00:33:54,825 --> 00:33:57,536 and interesting mushrooms 1107 00:33:57,577 --> 00:33:59,413 that we've ever grown. 1108 00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:04,585 This mushroom helps the immunity 1109 00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:04,585 of not only people, but bees. 1110 00:34:17,514 --> 00:34:18,807 Up this hill here, 1111 00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:20,559 we have a quarter section 1112 00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:20,559 of property, 1113 00:34:20,601 --> 00:34:22,059 160 acres, 1114 00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:25,230 and we have a large 1115 00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:25,230 mycological experiment. 1116 00:34:26,148 --> 00:34:27,858 We planted 33,000 trees, 1117 00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,152 half with mycorrhizal fungi 1118 00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,152 attached to the roots, 1119 00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:31,193 half without, 1120 00:34:31,235 --> 00:34:33,864 and this is year nine. 1121 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:36,574 So, we are putting into 1122 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:36,574 an Excel spreadsheet, 1123 00:34:36,617 --> 00:34:39,077 or have put in 1124 00:34:36,617 --> 00:34:39,077 1,100 trees 1125 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,496 to compare the treatments. 1126 00:34:41,538 --> 00:34:42,914 I came into a chunk of change 1127 00:34:42,956 --> 00:34:45,793 from licensing one 1128 00:34:42,956 --> 00:34:45,793 of my patents, 1129 00:34:45,835 --> 00:34:48,503 and so when the political 1130 00:34:45,835 --> 00:34:48,503 climate of the United States 1131 00:34:48,545 --> 00:34:51,047 changed to be adverse 1132 00:34:48,545 --> 00:34:51,047 to environmentalists, 1133 00:34:51,088 --> 00:34:52,675 we bought land in Canada. 1134 00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:00,056 [Pollan] I think the fact 1135 00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:00,056 that he didn't come up on 1136 00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:00,056 a conventional academic pathway 1137 00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:01,557 is part of the reason 1138 00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:01,557 he's as willing 1139 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,143 to really explore 1140 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,143 ideas that... 1141 00:35:03,184 --> 00:35:05,521 are not on anyone 1142 00:35:03,184 --> 00:35:05,521 else's radar. 1143 00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:10,275 [P. Stamets] I'm really honored 1144 00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:10,275 that I discovered a few things 1145 00:35:10,317 --> 00:35:12,443 that no one else 1146 00:35:10,317 --> 00:35:12,443 had yet discovered. 1147 00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:16,197 So, I have now five patents 1148 00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:16,197 on entomopathogenic fungi. 1149 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,074 These are fungi 1150 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,074 that infect insects, 1151 00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:20,994 and in particular, 1152 00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:20,994 termites. 1153 00:35:21,036 --> 00:35:23,246 The biggest problem in 1154 00:35:21,036 --> 00:35:23,246 the commercialization 1155 00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,289 of biopesticides 1156 00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,289 from fungi 1157 00:35:25,331 --> 00:35:27,668 has been the spore 1158 00:35:25,331 --> 00:35:27,668 repellency property. 1159 00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:30,545 The insects avoid the spores 1160 00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:30,545 of these fungi. 1161 00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:32,463 In fact, 1162 00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:32,463 so concerned are termites 1163 00:35:32,505 --> 00:35:34,215 that if a worker goes out 1164 00:35:32,505 --> 00:35:34,215 and encounters this fungus, 1165 00:35:34,257 --> 00:35:36,552 when the worker 1166 00:35:34,257 --> 00:35:36,552 returns back to the nest, 1167 00:35:36,592 --> 00:35:38,512 guards, they'll 1168 00:35:36,592 --> 00:35:38,512 capture that worker 1169 00:35:38,554 --> 00:35:40,137 that's infected 1170 00:35:38,554 --> 00:35:40,137 with these spores, 1171 00:35:40,179 --> 00:35:41,764 take the worker 1172 00:35:40,179 --> 00:35:41,764 to a graveyard, 1173 00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:44,893 and they cut off 1174 00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:44,893 the worker's head, 1175 00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:46,936 and then the two guards 1176 00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:46,936 commit suicide. 1177 00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:48,813 They're trying to protect 1178 00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:48,813 the queen and the nest 1179 00:35:48,856 --> 00:35:50,606 and the colony 1180 00:35:48,856 --> 00:35:50,606 from infection. 1181 00:35:50,648 --> 00:35:53,360 And I discovered something 1182 00:35:50,648 --> 00:35:53,360 that no one else 1183 00:35:53,402 --> 00:35:55,195 had ever reported in the 1184 00:35:53,402 --> 00:35:55,195 scientific literature. 1185 00:35:55,237 --> 00:35:58,574 I found a biological switch 1186 00:35:55,237 --> 00:35:58,574 that delayed sporulation, 1187 00:35:58,614 --> 00:36:01,451 and then the insects 1188 00:35:58,614 --> 00:36:01,451 were not repelled. 1189 00:36:01,492 --> 00:36:03,536 But they were 1190 00:36:01,492 --> 00:36:03,536 super attracted, 1191 00:36:03,579 --> 00:36:06,789 which means one finds the 1192 00:36:03,579 --> 00:36:06,789 fungus now, and others follow, 1193 00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:08,708 and it ends up 1194 00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:08,708 being a Trojan horse. 1195 00:36:08,751 --> 00:36:11,670 The same fungi now are taken 1196 00:36:08,751 --> 00:36:11,670 past the guards, 1197 00:36:11,711 --> 00:36:14,923 given to the queen, the queen 1198 00:36:11,711 --> 00:36:14,923 feeds it to the brood. 1199 00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:17,800 The whole colony becomes 1200 00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:17,800 mummified with this mycelium, 1201 00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:22,472 and, whoosh! The whole colony 1202 00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:22,472 is infected and dies. 1203 00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:24,682 And then the spore 1204 00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:24,682 repellency properties 1205 00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:27,309 protects your house 1206 00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:27,309 from subsequent invasions. 1207 00:36:27,351 --> 00:36:29,521 This is a huge discovery. 1208 00:36:29,563 --> 00:36:31,231 And then I tried it 1209 00:36:29,563 --> 00:36:31,231 with carpenter ants, 1210 00:36:31,273 --> 00:36:33,442 with fire ants, 1211 00:36:31,273 --> 00:36:33,442 fungus gnats, 1212 00:36:33,483 --> 00:36:34,943 and then mosquitoes, 1213 00:36:34,985 --> 00:36:36,778 and now we're working 1214 00:36:34,985 --> 00:36:36,778 with bed bugs, 1215 00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:39,655 and we've had successes 1216 00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:39,655 across the board. 1217 00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:49,331 The entire ecosystem 1218 00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:49,331 is infused with fungi. 1219 00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:53,753 So, I see these deep reservoirs 1220 00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:53,753 of the ecology all around us. 1221 00:37:01,552 --> 00:37:03,429 [narrator] 1222 00:37:01,552 --> 00:37:03,429 In a world of invention, 1223 00:37:03,472 --> 00:37:05,431 the answer to 1224 00:37:03,472 --> 00:37:05,431 our greatest problems 1225 00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:09,268 may be hiding right 1226 00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:09,268 under our feet. 1227 00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:11,730 [Bone] There are mushrooms 1228 00:37:11,771 --> 00:37:14,315 that have been used 1229 00:37:11,771 --> 00:37:14,315 in Western medicine. 1230 00:37:14,356 --> 00:37:16,068 Penicillin, for example, 1231 00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:19,695 is a really effective 1232 00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:19,695 antibiotic. 1233 00:37:19,737 --> 00:37:22,115 Before it was synthesized, 1234 00:37:19,737 --> 00:37:22,115 during the Civil War, 1235 00:37:22,157 --> 00:37:24,659 when a soldier 1236 00:37:22,157 --> 00:37:24,659 would get wounded, 1237 00:37:24,701 --> 00:37:27,536 they would slap a piece of 1238 00:37:24,701 --> 00:37:27,536 moldy bread on his wound 1239 00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:31,208 to benefit from those 1240 00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:31,208 antibiotic properties, 1241 00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:33,085 so he wouldn't get 1242 00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:33,085 an infection. 1243 00:37:35,003 --> 00:37:38,965 [P. Stamets] Alexander Fleming 1244 00:37:35,003 --> 00:37:38,965 discovered penicillin in 1927. 1245 00:37:39,007 --> 00:37:40,134 The problem was that 1246 00:37:40,175 --> 00:37:41,467 they couldn't find strains 1247 00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:42,885 that could be 1248 00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:42,885 commercialized, 1249 00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,471 that could produce 1250 00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,471 enough of it 1251 00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:46,222 in a commercially 1252 00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:46,222 economic fashion. 1253 00:37:47,182 --> 00:37:48,432 We fast forward, 1254 00:37:48,474 --> 00:37:50,226 and in 1942, 1255 00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:53,188 a group of researchers 1256 00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:53,188 in Chicago went shopping, 1257 00:37:53,230 --> 00:37:55,940 and a lab assistant found 1258 00:37:53,230 --> 00:37:55,940 a cantaloupe that was rotting 1259 00:37:55,983 --> 00:37:58,275 with a beautiful 1260 00:37:55,983 --> 00:37:58,275 golden mold, 1261 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,155 and from that strain, 1262 00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:05,784 we got the first 1263 00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:05,784 hyper-producing 1264 00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:05,784 strain of penicillium. 1265 00:38:07,786 --> 00:38:09,286 Penicillin literally saved 1266 00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:12,248 tens of thousands 1267 00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:12,248 of soldiers' lives. 1268 00:38:12,289 --> 00:38:13,833 The Brits had this, 1269 00:38:13,876 --> 00:38:16,335 but the Germans and 1270 00:38:13,876 --> 00:38:16,335 the Japanese did not. 1271 00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,422 It's been suggested 1272 00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,422 that the discovery 1273 00:38:20,465 --> 00:38:22,509 of this hyper-producing 1274 00:38:20,465 --> 00:38:22,509 strain of penicillin 1275 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:25,512 was a significant influence 1276 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:25,512 in winning World War II. 1277 00:38:25,554 --> 00:38:29,016 Alexander Fleming then received 1278 00:38:25,554 --> 00:38:29,016 the Nobel Prize in 1945, 1279 00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:31,518 in recognition 1280 00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:31,518 of the huge impact 1281 00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,146 that penicillin had 1282 00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,146 on human health. 1283 00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:45,782 [Bone] Here's how medicinal 1284 00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:45,782 mushrooms are thought to work: 1285 00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:49,577 A fungus will produce 1286 00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:49,577 all kinds of enzymes-- 1287 00:38:49,619 --> 00:38:51,538 it's like 1288 00:38:49,619 --> 00:38:51,538 a chemical warfare-- 1289 00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:54,623 in order to fight off 1290 00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:54,623 competition for food, 1291 00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:56,710 like other microbes, 1292 00:38:56,751 --> 00:39:00,297 other fungi, 1293 00:38:56,751 --> 00:39:00,297 bacteria, virus. 1294 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,550 That's what makes 1295 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,550 antibiotics work. 1296 00:39:03,592 --> 00:39:06,219 Chemicals that are 1297 00:39:03,592 --> 00:39:06,219 produced by fungus, 1298 00:39:06,262 --> 00:39:08,889 like the one that 1299 00:39:06,262 --> 00:39:08,889 penicillin is made from, 1300 00:39:08,931 --> 00:39:10,347 the fungus produces it 1301 00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:12,684 to kill bacteria 1302 00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:12,684 that are competition, 1303 00:39:12,726 --> 00:39:17,355 and when we take penicillin, 1304 00:39:12,726 --> 00:39:17,355 it kills our bacteria. 1305 00:39:17,396 --> 00:39:19,648 [Weil] There's a long tradition 1306 00:39:17,396 --> 00:39:19,648 of using mushrooms 1307 00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:21,735 as medicines in East Asia, 1308 00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:24,487 especially in Korea, 1309 00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:24,487 China, and Japan. 1310 00:39:24,528 --> 00:39:27,032 They appear to 1311 00:39:24,528 --> 00:39:27,032 be able to enhance 1312 00:39:27,074 --> 00:39:31,202 and protect the body's innate 1313 00:39:27,074 --> 00:39:31,202 defensive mechanisms. 1314 00:39:31,244 --> 00:39:33,371 The uses for them fill niches 1315 00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:36,666 for which we really 1316 00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:36,666 don't have anything 1317 00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:36,666 in Western pharmacology. 1318 00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:38,751 In Western medicine, 1319 00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:38,751 all of our effort 1320 00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:41,420 is on identifying 1321 00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:41,420 agents of disease 1322 00:39:41,463 --> 00:39:42,797 and eliminating them. 1323 00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:43,882 That has its place, 1324 00:39:43,923 --> 00:39:45,134 but we do almost nothing 1325 00:39:45,175 --> 00:39:46,927 about supporting the good. 1326 00:39:51,264 --> 00:39:53,934 [P. Stamets] 1327 00:39:51,264 --> 00:39:53,934 Shamans would treat patients 1328 00:39:53,976 --> 00:39:55,768 and the diseases 1329 00:39:53,976 --> 00:39:55,768 were thought to be 1330 00:39:55,811 --> 00:39:58,646 elements of 1331 00:39:55,811 --> 00:39:58,646 the spirit world. 1332 00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:01,275 Well, physicians today 1333 00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:01,275 treat infections, 1334 00:40:01,317 --> 00:40:03,568 and their spirits 1335 00:40:01,317 --> 00:40:03,568 are bacteria, 1336 00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:05,820 or a pathogenic, 1337 00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:05,820 or viruses. 1338 00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:08,157 So, whether the shamans 1339 00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:08,157 called them spirits 1340 00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:11,327 or whether the scientists 1341 00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:11,327 call them microbes, 1342 00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:13,244 with the invention 1343 00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:13,244 of microscopes 1344 00:40:13,286 --> 00:40:16,081 we get to see the microscopic 1345 00:40:13,286 --> 00:40:16,081 universe and landscape 1346 00:40:16,123 --> 00:40:20,043 that we thunder upon 1347 00:40:16,123 --> 00:40:20,043 with every footstep. 1348 00:40:20,085 --> 00:40:22,420 The fact that 1349 00:40:20,085 --> 00:40:22,420 these fungal networks 1350 00:40:22,461 --> 00:40:23,838 are seemingly invisible, 1351 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,047 but then represent themselves 1352 00:40:25,090 --> 00:40:26,382 in a big flourishing mushroom 1353 00:40:26,423 --> 00:40:28,010 in a matter of a few days, 1354 00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,971 give us a window into 1355 00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,971 the invisible landscape 1356 00:40:31,012 --> 00:40:32,554 underneath our feet. 1357 00:40:49,072 --> 00:40:50,782 Fungal networks 1358 00:40:49,072 --> 00:40:50,782 have defended themselves 1359 00:40:50,824 --> 00:40:53,952 against vectors of disease 1360 00:40:50,824 --> 00:40:53,952 for millions of years. 1361 00:40:53,994 --> 00:40:57,579 Viral pandemics 1362 00:40:53,994 --> 00:40:57,579 occur periodically. 1363 00:40:57,621 --> 00:41:00,876 Between 1347 and 1353, 1364 00:41:00,916 --> 00:41:03,753 one-third of the 1365 00:41:00,916 --> 00:41:03,753 European population died 1366 00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:05,547 from the black plague. 1367 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,550 The great flu pandemic 1368 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,550 of 1918, 1369 00:41:09,592 --> 00:41:12,012 two percent of 1370 00:41:09,592 --> 00:41:12,012 the world population died. 1371 00:41:12,054 --> 00:41:14,181 Millions upon millions 1372 00:41:12,054 --> 00:41:14,181 of people. 1373 00:41:15,764 --> 00:41:19,353 I think everyone is aware 1374 00:41:15,764 --> 00:41:19,353 of the threat of bioterrorism, 1375 00:41:19,394 --> 00:41:21,563 but few people 1376 00:41:19,394 --> 00:41:21,563 may know that 1377 00:41:21,603 --> 00:41:23,898 Europeans were 1378 00:41:21,603 --> 00:41:23,898 actively involved, 1379 00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:25,650 consciously 1380 00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:25,650 or unconsciously, 1381 00:41:25,692 --> 00:41:27,735 in bioterrorism against 1382 00:41:25,692 --> 00:41:27,735 indigenous peoples, 1383 00:41:27,777 --> 00:41:31,239 especially in the New World, 1384 00:41:27,777 --> 00:41:31,239 in Meso-America. 1385 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,907 They brought in diseases, 1386 00:41:32,949 --> 00:41:34,326 and when you're extremely sick, 1387 00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:36,411 you can't fight off an invader. 1388 00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:39,664 It's an irony 1389 00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:39,664 of history that now, 1390 00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:41,416 the US government 1391 00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:41,416 is interested 1392 00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:44,501 in protecting people 1393 00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:44,501 from viral pandemics. 1394 00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:46,838 [reporter] Paul Stamets 1395 00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:46,838 cultured numerous strains 1396 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,215 in his lab, and prepared 1397 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,215 natural extract. 1398 00:41:49,257 --> 00:41:51,175 He then submitted samples 1399 00:41:51,217 --> 00:41:54,721 to the Defense Department's 1400 00:41:51,217 --> 00:41:54,721 BioShield program for testing. 1401 00:41:54,762 --> 00:41:55,804 [P. Stamets] And ironically, 1402 00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:57,099 I have a debt of gratitude 1403 00:41:57,139 --> 00:41:59,726 to Dick Cheney 1404 00:41:57,139 --> 00:41:59,726 and George W. Bush. 1405 00:41:59,768 --> 00:42:02,561 It is vital that our nation 1406 00:41:59,768 --> 00:42:02,561 discuss and address the threat 1407 00:42:02,603 --> 00:42:04,481 of pandemic flu now. 1408 00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,108 [P. Stamets] 1409 00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,108 Their funding of that research 1410 00:42:06,148 --> 00:42:07,817 led to some very 1411 00:42:06,148 --> 00:42:07,817 novel discoveries, 1412 00:42:07,858 --> 00:42:11,487 to which we're still 1413 00:42:07,858 --> 00:42:11,487 elaborating today. 1414 00:42:11,528 --> 00:42:13,197 And what we know about these 1415 00:42:11,528 --> 00:42:13,197 mycelium networks 1416 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,324 is they're learning membranes. 1417 00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:18,202 They are self-learning 1418 00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:18,202 and network-based organisms 1419 00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:21,039 that can share 1420 00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:21,039 and store knowledge. 1421 00:42:21,081 --> 00:42:23,208 The mycelium 1422 00:42:21,081 --> 00:42:23,208 is vaccinating itself 1423 00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:26,001 against pathogens 1424 00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:26,001 in the ecosystem. 1425 00:42:26,043 --> 00:42:27,586 We can capitalize on this 1426 00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:29,755 because many of the 1427 00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:29,755 same bacterial pathogens 1428 00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:33,675 that infect fungi, 1429 00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:33,675 also can infect animals. 1430 00:42:33,717 --> 00:42:34,969 We have found novel molecules 1431 00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:37,347 highly active 1432 00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:37,347 against pox viruses, 1433 00:42:37,389 --> 00:42:38,681 novel molecules highly active 1434 00:42:38,722 --> 00:42:42,184 against HPV, 1435 00:42:38,722 --> 00:42:42,184 the human papillomavirus. 1436 00:42:42,226 --> 00:42:44,561 Many scientists are 1437 00:42:42,226 --> 00:42:44,561 trying to come up 1438 00:42:44,603 --> 00:42:47,856 with the next antibiotic, 1439 00:42:44,603 --> 00:42:47,856 the next penicillin, 1440 00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:50,318 but we have barely tapped 1441 00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:50,318 into the fungal genome, 1442 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,780 especially the 1443 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,780 mushroom form of fungi. 1444 00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:58,452 Think of it: our old-growth 1445 00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:58,452 forests that contain 1446 00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:58,452 these ancient fungi 1447 00:42:58,494 --> 00:43:00,369 are deep reservoirs 1448 00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:03,581 of potential compounds that 1449 00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:03,581 can fight pandemic viruses. 1450 00:43:03,623 --> 00:43:08,210 We should save 1451 00:43:03,623 --> 00:43:08,210 the old-growth forest as 1452 00:43:03,623 --> 00:43:08,210 a matter of national defense. 1453 00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:21,099 [Weil] I recommend mushrooms 1454 00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:21,099 and mushroom products 1455 00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:21,099 frequently to patients 1456 00:43:21,141 --> 00:43:24,643 and I teach other doctors 1457 00:43:21,141 --> 00:43:24,643 about their uses. 1458 00:43:24,686 --> 00:43:28,148 Mushrooms have molecules 1459 00:43:24,686 --> 00:43:28,148 not found elsewhere in nature. 1460 00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:30,775 There're some that have 1461 00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:30,775 totally unusual properties 1462 00:43:30,817 --> 00:43:34,070 like Lion's Mane mushroom. 1463 00:43:34,112 --> 00:43:35,780 [P. Stamets] 1464 00:43:34,112 --> 00:43:35,780 The Lion's Mane mushroom 1465 00:43:35,822 --> 00:43:38,867 is a globular cascading 1466 00:43:35,822 --> 00:43:38,867 icicle-formed mushroom. 1467 00:43:38,907 --> 00:43:40,952 Tastes like lobster 1468 00:43:38,907 --> 00:43:40,952 or shrimp when you cook it, 1469 00:43:40,994 --> 00:43:44,246 but a researcher in Japan 1470 00:43:40,994 --> 00:43:44,246 by the name of Kara-Jishi 1471 00:43:44,289 --> 00:43:46,623 discovered in around 1993, 1472 00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:49,418 and I don't have the foggiest 1473 00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:49,418 idea how you discover this, 1474 00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:54,007 but he discovered that 1475 00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:54,007 this mushroom stimulates 1476 00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:54,007 nerves to regrow 1477 00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:58,260 and he postulated it could 1478 00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:58,260 be an effective treatment 1479 00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:58,260 against Alzheimer's. 1480 00:43:58,302 --> 00:44:01,181 [Weil] Since we don't have 1481 00:43:58,302 --> 00:44:01,181 anything for Alzheimer's 1482 00:44:01,222 --> 00:44:04,518 and since this is nontoxic, 1483 00:44:01,222 --> 00:44:04,518 we should test it. 1484 00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:07,061 Mushrooms are completely 1485 00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:07,061 unusual organisms 1486 00:44:07,103 --> 00:44:08,938 and they're ignored 1487 00:44:07,103 --> 00:44:08,938 by so many people 1488 00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:11,148 and yet they're 1489 00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:11,148 a vital interface 1490 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:13,275 between all forms of life. 1491 00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:22,327 [P. Stamets] At the University 1492 00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:22,327 of Southern Florida, 1493 00:44:22,369 --> 00:44:24,829 a very interesting 1494 00:44:22,369 --> 00:44:24,829 study came out. 1495 00:44:24,871 --> 00:44:27,248 Mice were trained to have 1496 00:44:24,871 --> 00:44:27,248 a conditioned fear response 1497 00:44:27,289 --> 00:44:30,085 and so when there's a sound 1498 00:44:27,289 --> 00:44:30,085 that is associated with a pain, 1499 00:44:30,126 --> 00:44:31,460 later on when they 1500 00:44:30,126 --> 00:44:31,460 just heard the sound, 1501 00:44:31,503 --> 00:44:33,045 they cowered in fear. 1502 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:37,634 When they treated the mice 1503 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:37,634 with psilocybin, 1504 00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:39,885 the compound 1505 00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:39,885 of magic mushrooms, 1506 00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:42,347 the mice dissociated 1507 00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:42,347 that link. 1508 00:44:42,389 --> 00:44:45,641 The mice overcame the 1509 00:44:42,389 --> 00:44:45,641 fear-conditioned response. 1510 00:44:45,682 --> 00:44:47,436 [Sanchez-Ramos] 1511 00:44:45,682 --> 00:44:47,436 We started with very low doses 1512 00:44:47,476 --> 00:44:50,355 to as high a dose as 1513 00:44:47,476 --> 00:44:50,355 one milligram per kilogram. 1514 00:44:50,396 --> 00:44:51,981 Now what was interesting, 1515 00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:53,942 if you look 1516 00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:53,942 at double-labeled cells, 1517 00:44:53,983 --> 00:44:55,318 in other words, 1518 00:44:53,983 --> 00:44:55,318 the birth of new neurons, 1519 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,239 we saw an increase 1520 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,239 in neurogenesis. 1521 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,032 Neurogenesis literally means 1522 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,032 "neuro" for nerves 1523 00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:05,077 and "genesis," 1524 00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:05,077 rebirth or beginning of. 1525 00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,038 The regrowing of neurons. 1526 00:45:09,541 --> 00:45:13,710 They were not using the same 1527 00:45:09,541 --> 00:45:13,710 neurological pathways 1528 00:45:09,541 --> 00:45:13,710 they have in the past. 1529 00:45:13,753 --> 00:45:15,505 This is really exciting 1530 00:45:15,547 --> 00:45:19,217 because it means that the brain 1531 00:45:15,547 --> 00:45:19,217 has a plasticity about it, 1532 00:45:19,259 --> 00:45:21,594 is able to heal, 1533 00:45:19,259 --> 00:45:21,594 is able to grow. 1534 00:45:21,637 --> 00:45:23,804 It just needs 1535 00:45:21,637 --> 00:45:23,804 the right compounds 1536 00:45:23,846 --> 00:45:27,016 to help it develop new 1537 00:45:23,846 --> 00:45:27,016 neurological pathways. 1538 00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:29,893 We're all getting older. 1539 00:45:29,936 --> 00:45:32,021 We'll all suffer some 1540 00:45:29,936 --> 00:45:32,021 degree of dementia. 1541 00:45:36,485 --> 00:45:38,402 What compounds can we take 1542 00:45:38,445 --> 00:45:41,697 that enhances and 1543 00:45:38,445 --> 00:45:41,697 preserves neurogenesis? 1544 00:45:45,867 --> 00:45:47,536 I know many, many people 1545 00:45:47,579 --> 00:45:50,581 who would not dare take 1546 00:45:47,579 --> 00:45:50,581 a psilocybin mushroom trip, 1547 00:45:50,623 --> 00:45:54,085 but the concept of them taking 1548 00:45:50,623 --> 00:45:54,085 one 50th of a dose, 1549 00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:57,088 something like that, 1550 00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:57,088 and it causes neurogenesis 1551 00:45:57,130 --> 00:45:59,965 that might make them smarter, 1552 00:45:57,130 --> 00:45:59,965 or in a better mood, or happier? 1553 00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:02,385 That's a whole 1554 00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:02,385 different subject. 1555 00:46:05,847 --> 00:46:09,809 [narrator] We are on 1556 00:46:05,847 --> 00:46:09,809 a never-ending search 1557 00:46:05,847 --> 00:46:09,809 for partners, 1558 00:46:11,059 --> 00:46:13,855 life-affirming relationships, 1559 00:46:16,231 --> 00:46:18,150 or at the very least, 1560 00:46:18,193 --> 00:46:22,447 nourishment for the 1561 00:46:18,193 --> 00:46:22,447 next leg of our journey. 1562 00:46:22,489 --> 00:46:26,534 We have flourished 1563 00:46:22,489 --> 00:46:26,534 side by side with your species 1564 00:46:26,576 --> 00:46:30,829 symbiotically 1565 00:46:26,576 --> 00:46:30,829 for centuries. 1566 00:46:33,416 --> 00:46:35,210 [Harman] 1567 00:46:33,416 --> 00:46:35,210 Many shamanic cultures 1568 00:46:35,251 --> 00:46:37,253 relied on mushrooms 1569 00:46:37,295 --> 00:46:39,838 for their transcendental 1570 00:46:37,295 --> 00:46:39,838 experiences. 1571 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,344 This is pre-religion 1572 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,344 all over the world. 1573 00:46:44,385 --> 00:46:46,929 It was all about 1574 00:46:44,385 --> 00:46:46,929 the individual's connection 1575 00:46:46,971 --> 00:46:48,472 to the spiritual world, 1576 00:46:48,514 --> 00:46:52,809 or the mystery that is 1577 00:46:48,514 --> 00:46:52,809 our context for living. 1578 00:46:56,105 --> 00:46:58,940 These are ancient artifacts 1579 00:46:56,105 --> 00:46:58,940 from the Mayan culture. 1580 00:46:58,983 --> 00:47:01,068 These are called 1581 00:46:58,983 --> 00:47:01,068 mushroom stones. 1582 00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:02,612 This may be 1583 00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:02,612 the largest collection 1584 00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:04,614 of mushroom stones 1585 00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:04,614 in the world. 1586 00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:07,242 The Mayan culture 1587 00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:07,242 was very mycophillic 1588 00:47:07,282 --> 00:47:10,327 and they revered mushroom 1589 00:47:07,282 --> 00:47:10,327 stones for divination, 1590 00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:12,621 for spirituality. 1591 00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:15,291 Also to be able 1592 00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:15,291 to predict incoming armies, 1593 00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:17,418 and how to strategize 1594 00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:17,418 against them. 1595 00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:30,889 A great ethnomycologist by 1596 00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:30,889 the name of R. Gordon Wasson 1597 00:47:30,931 --> 00:47:33,351 came up with the phrase 1598 00:47:30,931 --> 00:47:33,351 mycophilia, 1599 00:47:33,393 --> 00:47:35,686 the love of mushrooms 1600 00:47:33,393 --> 00:47:35,686 that the Mayans shared. 1601 00:47:35,728 --> 00:47:37,773 Mycophobia 1602 00:47:35,728 --> 00:47:37,773 is a classically-- 1603 00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:39,940 the English 1604 00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:39,940 had a fear of mushrooms 1605 00:47:39,981 --> 00:47:41,943 because they're enigmatic. 1606 00:47:41,983 --> 00:47:44,027 You know, these mushrooms 1607 00:47:41,983 --> 00:47:44,027 can get you high, 1608 00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:46,782 they can heal you, 1609 00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:46,782 they can feed you, 1610 00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:46,782 they can kill you. 1611 00:47:46,822 --> 00:47:50,284 And so that which is so powerful 1612 00:47:46,822 --> 00:47:50,284 is naturally feared. 1613 00:47:50,326 --> 00:47:52,369 [Nicholas Cozzi] Wasson was 1614 00:47:50,326 --> 00:47:52,369 an amateur mycologist, 1615 00:47:52,411 --> 00:47:54,871 a person who 1616 00:47:52,411 --> 00:47:54,871 studies mushrooms 1617 00:47:54,914 --> 00:48:01,503 and was invited to participate 1618 00:47:54,914 --> 00:48:01,503 in a ceremony by a curandera, 1619 00:48:01,545 --> 00:48:04,757 Maria Sabina in 1955. 1620 00:48:05,634 --> 00:48:07,760 He took these mushrooms 1621 00:48:07,802 --> 00:48:11,139 and had 1622 00:48:07,802 --> 00:48:11,139 a psychedelic experience... 1623 00:48:13,056 --> 00:48:15,434 [P. Stamets] And when 1624 00:48:13,056 --> 00:48:15,434 R. Gordon Wasson came 1625 00:48:13,056 --> 00:48:15,434 out with this research 1626 00:48:15,476 --> 00:48:18,688 that was published 1627 00:48:15,476 --> 00:48:18,688 in Life magazine in 1957... 1628 00:48:20,856 --> 00:48:24,693 that was basically a field 1629 00:48:20,856 --> 00:48:24,693 guide to psilocybin mushrooms 1630 00:48:24,735 --> 00:48:27,447 delivered to tens of 1631 00:48:24,735 --> 00:48:27,447 millions of Americans 1632 00:48:27,489 --> 00:48:31,576 on their doorstep, during 1633 00:48:27,489 --> 00:48:31,576 the peak of the Cold War. 1634 00:48:31,617 --> 00:48:34,496 This then was quickly noticed 1635 00:48:31,617 --> 00:48:34,496 by academics at Harvard 1636 00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:39,250 and other Ivy League schools 1637 00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:39,250 and then the cognoscenti, 1638 00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:45,757 including Timothy Leary, 1639 00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:45,757 Ram Dass, and Dr. Andrew Weil. 1640 00:48:45,798 --> 00:48:48,092 Why do mushrooms 1641 00:48:45,798 --> 00:48:48,092 produce molecules 1642 00:48:48,134 --> 00:48:51,012 that fit receptors in 1643 00:48:48,134 --> 00:48:51,012 the human brain and body? 1644 00:48:51,052 --> 00:48:53,389 What does that say? 1645 00:48:51,052 --> 00:48:53,389 What does that mean? 1646 00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:56,768 I mean, does that mean 1647 00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:56,768 that we're supposed to 1648 00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:56,768 be using these things? 1649 00:48:56,809 --> 00:49:00,021 Psychedelics during 1650 00:48:56,809 --> 00:49:00,021 the '50s and '60s 1651 00:49:00,061 --> 00:49:02,440 were the cutting edge 1652 00:49:00,061 --> 00:49:02,440 of psychiatric research. 1653 00:49:02,481 --> 00:49:04,317 There were remarkable studies 1654 00:49:04,358 --> 00:49:08,780 with very, very 1655 00:49:04,358 --> 00:49:08,780 promising findings. 1656 00:49:08,822 --> 00:49:12,949 [Ross] Psychedelics became part 1657 00:49:08,822 --> 00:49:12,949 of research in psychiatry 1658 00:49:08,822 --> 00:49:12,949 for 30 years. 1659 00:49:12,992 --> 00:49:16,579 and there were several 1660 00:49:12,992 --> 00:49:16,579 very interesting indications 1661 00:49:12,992 --> 00:49:16,579 that they were researched. 1662 00:49:16,621 --> 00:49:19,708 The best data was actually 1663 00:49:16,621 --> 00:49:19,708 for alcoholism. 1664 00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:22,460 [Grob] We found that having 1665 00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:22,460 a mystical experience 1666 00:49:22,501 --> 00:49:24,211 during the course 1667 00:49:22,501 --> 00:49:24,211 of one session 1668 00:49:24,253 --> 00:49:27,548 was the strongest predictor 1669 00:49:24,253 --> 00:49:27,548 of positive outcome, 1670 00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:31,887 meaning maintaining sobriety 1671 00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:31,887 over the long follow-up period. 1672 00:49:31,927 --> 00:49:34,597 It was very impressive. 1673 00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,349 [Pollan] 1674 00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,349 Some of these drugs, 1675 00:49:36,391 --> 00:49:38,893 they had "escaped the lab," 1676 00:49:36,391 --> 00:49:38,893 as the phrase goes. 1677 00:49:40,101 --> 00:49:42,313 Millions of people 1678 00:49:40,101 --> 00:49:42,313 were using them 1679 00:49:42,355 --> 00:49:44,065 and you have to realize 1680 00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:47,568 that this was a radical force 1681 00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:47,568 unleashed in the West. 1682 00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,327 [Timothy Leary] The kids who 1683 00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,327 take psychedelics aren't 1684 00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,327 going to fight your wars. 1685 00:49:57,369 --> 00:49:59,371 They're not going to join 1686 00:49:57,369 --> 00:49:59,371 your corporations, 1687 00:49:59,414 --> 00:50:01,331 they won't buy it. 1688 00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:04,376 [Bill Richards] 1689 00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:04,376 A lot was going on 1690 00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:04,376 back in the '60s. 1691 00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:07,963 It was a time of 1692 00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:07,963 rapid cultural change. 1693 00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:10,925 There was irrational fears 1694 00:50:10,967 --> 00:50:14,177 about too much 1695 00:50:10,967 --> 00:50:14,177 cultural change too fast. 1696 00:50:14,219 --> 00:50:17,389 President Nixon 1697 00:50:14,219 --> 00:50:17,389 called Timothy Leary 1698 00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:19,893 the most dangerous man 1699 00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:19,893 in America. 1700 00:50:19,934 --> 00:50:22,686 We must wage what 1701 00:50:19,934 --> 00:50:22,686 I have called total war 1702 00:50:22,728 --> 00:50:25,940 against public enemy number one 1703 00:50:22,728 --> 00:50:25,940 in the United States, 1704 00:50:25,981 --> 00:50:28,025 the problem 1705 00:50:25,981 --> 00:50:28,025 with dangerous drugs. 1706 00:50:30,778 --> 00:50:32,822 When everyone says 1707 00:50:30,778 --> 00:50:32,822 "shrooms" to me, 1708 00:50:32,864 --> 00:50:34,699 it invokes this whole idea 1709 00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:37,409 of using psilocybin mushrooms 1710 00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:37,409 as a party drug, 1711 00:50:37,452 --> 00:50:41,079 They are so much more important 1712 00:50:37,452 --> 00:50:41,079 than just getting high. 1713 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,505 The movement to marginalize 1714 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,505 the major psychedelics 1715 00:50:49,547 --> 00:50:51,172 is incredibly complex. 1716 00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:54,635 I mean, it plugged into 1717 00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:54,635 a counterculture movement, 1718 00:50:54,677 --> 00:51:00,307 an anti-war movement, 1719 00:50:54,677 --> 00:51:00,307 an anti-establishment movement. 1720 00:51:00,349 --> 00:51:04,061 There are many, many forces 1721 00:51:00,349 --> 00:51:04,061 that were at play. 1722 00:51:11,152 --> 00:51:13,237 [Richards] 1723 00:51:11,152 --> 00:51:13,237 Somehow the fuse blew 1724 00:51:13,278 --> 00:51:15,572 and one of the victims was 1725 00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:19,494 the medical research 1726 00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:19,494 with psychedelics. 1727 00:51:19,534 --> 00:51:24,414 There was a very irrational 1728 00:51:19,534 --> 00:51:24,414 and anti-scientific climate 1729 00:51:24,456 --> 00:51:27,543 that was fueled even 1730 00:51:24,456 --> 00:51:27,543 in government pamphlets, 1731 00:51:27,585 --> 00:51:30,211 really had 1732 00:51:27,585 --> 00:51:30,211 distorted information 1733 00:51:30,253 --> 00:51:33,507 that was not 1734 00:51:30,253 --> 00:51:33,507 scientifically accurate. 1735 00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:37,846 It was a bad trip, 1736 00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:37,846 instant insanity. 1737 00:51:39,972 --> 00:51:42,766 [Ross] The research came 1738 00:51:39,972 --> 00:51:42,766 to a halt in 1970. 1739 00:51:42,809 --> 00:51:44,434 War was declared on drugs. 1740 00:51:44,476 --> 00:51:46,561 The Controlled Substances 1741 00:51:44,476 --> 00:51:46,561 Act was passed 1742 00:51:46,603 --> 00:51:48,563 and the research 1743 00:51:46,603 --> 00:51:48,563 essentially was erased 1744 00:51:48,606 --> 00:51:51,693 from being taught 1745 00:51:48,606 --> 00:51:51,693 in psychiatry. 1746 00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:55,362 [Richards] 1747 00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:55,362 I think I may have the dubious 1748 00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:55,362 distinction of being the last 1749 00:51:55,403 --> 00:51:59,199 to give psilocybin 1750 00:51:55,403 --> 00:51:59,199 to a cancer patient 1751 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,786 at the Maryland 1752 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,786 Psychiatric Research Center. 1753 00:52:02,829 --> 00:52:06,081 And then the research 1754 00:52:02,829 --> 00:52:06,081 became completely dormant. 1755 00:52:10,753 --> 00:52:13,505 In our evolution 1756 00:52:10,753 --> 00:52:13,505 as a species, 1757 00:52:13,547 --> 00:52:15,884 we're at a point 1758 00:52:13,547 --> 00:52:15,884 of coming to terms 1759 00:52:15,925 --> 00:52:19,594 with a major paradigm change. 1760 00:52:19,637 --> 00:52:24,224 A change in how we view 1761 00:52:19,637 --> 00:52:24,224 what we call reality. 1762 00:52:27,978 --> 00:52:34,275 And that always evokes 1763 00:52:27,978 --> 00:52:34,275 tension and fears. 1764 00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:39,949 The culture wants to cling to 1765 00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:39,949 the old view of the universe. 1766 00:52:45,038 --> 00:52:47,498 [P. Stamets] 1767 00:52:45,038 --> 00:52:47,498 You realize that you've 1768 00:52:45,038 --> 00:52:47,498 been limited all this time 1769 00:52:47,539 --> 00:52:49,458 with your perspective 1770 00:52:47,539 --> 00:52:49,458 of reality. 1771 00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:54,047 Had reality been known to you 1772 00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:54,047 at this level early on, 1773 00:52:54,088 --> 00:52:56,882 how much more evolved 1774 00:52:54,088 --> 00:52:56,882 would we be as beings? 1775 00:52:58,217 --> 00:53:00,427 A lot of people would 1776 00:52:58,217 --> 00:53:00,427 be afraid of that. 1777 00:53:03,972 --> 00:53:06,434 This is very 1778 00:53:03,972 --> 00:53:06,434 dangerous territory. 1779 00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:10,438 People want to give up 1780 00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:10,438 the responsibility of 1781 00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:10,438 being able to understand 1782 00:53:10,478 --> 00:53:12,940 and because they 1783 00:53:10,478 --> 00:53:12,940 can't understand, 1784 00:53:10,478 --> 00:53:12,940 then they have faith. 1785 00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:16,318 and they put their faith 1786 00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:16,318 in other people who say 1787 00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:16,318 they can understand. 1788 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,237 And I think it's a situation 1789 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,282 that is ripe for 1790 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,282 a predatory relationship. 1791 00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:33,710 [Bob Jesse] Anyone who's had 1792 00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:33,710 one of those experiences 1793 00:53:33,753 --> 00:53:35,963 in a country where it's 1794 00:53:33,753 --> 00:53:35,963 not legal to have them 1795 00:53:36,005 --> 00:53:37,757 is stuck in this position 1796 00:53:37,798 --> 00:53:40,175 where something 1797 00:53:37,798 --> 00:53:40,175 really precious... 1798 00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:43,804 and really giving 1799 00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:43,804 a great gift to you 1800 00:53:43,846 --> 00:53:46,641 is not understood 1801 00:53:43,846 --> 00:53:46,641 by the culture at large 1802 00:53:46,681 --> 00:53:49,936 and furthermore, puts you or 1803 00:53:46,681 --> 00:53:49,936 other people or/and other people 1804 00:53:49,978 --> 00:53:51,686 at risk of prosecution. 1805 00:53:53,688 --> 00:53:55,190 And one response to that 1806 00:53:55,231 --> 00:53:57,400 is to get angry, 1807 00:53:57,443 --> 00:53:59,112 and to want to fight that. 1808 00:53:59,153 --> 00:54:01,155 And another response 1809 00:53:59,153 --> 00:54:01,155 to it is to say, 1810 00:54:01,197 --> 00:54:04,282 "We've just got to explain 1811 00:54:01,197 --> 00:54:04,282 to people what's going on here." 1812 00:54:04,324 --> 00:54:05,952 And when people understand it, 1813 00:54:05,994 --> 00:54:09,621 then there will be 1814 00:54:05,994 --> 00:54:09,621 accommodation and respect. 1815 00:54:11,623 --> 00:54:13,751 There are a number of elders 1816 00:54:11,623 --> 00:54:13,751 living in the Bay Area 1817 00:54:13,793 --> 00:54:15,585 who've devoted some part 1818 00:54:13,793 --> 00:54:15,585 of their career 1819 00:54:15,628 --> 00:54:18,297 in psychology 1820 00:54:15,628 --> 00:54:18,297 or religious studies 1821 00:54:18,338 --> 00:54:19,882 who ended up being invited 1822 00:54:19,923 --> 00:54:22,885 to a small invitational 1823 00:54:19,923 --> 00:54:22,885 conference at Esalen 1824 00:54:22,927 --> 00:54:26,014 called the Pacific Symposium 1825 00:54:22,927 --> 00:54:26,014 on Psychedelic Drugs. 1826 00:54:26,054 --> 00:54:28,349 As we went around the room 1827 00:54:26,054 --> 00:54:28,349 making introductions, 1828 00:54:28,389 --> 00:54:30,018 most of the people 1829 00:54:28,389 --> 00:54:30,018 who were clinicians 1830 00:54:30,059 --> 00:54:31,768 were excitedly talking about 1831 00:54:31,811 --> 00:54:33,855 what kind of clinical 1832 00:54:31,811 --> 00:54:33,855 trial they would run 1833 00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:35,940 if they could use one 1834 00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:35,940 of these substances 1835 00:54:35,981 --> 00:54:37,358 to treat PTSD... 1836 00:54:37,398 --> 00:54:40,235 or to treat depression. 1837 00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:42,780 [Richards] We wrote 1838 00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:42,780 the best design we could. 1839 00:54:42,822 --> 00:54:46,909 We submitted it to the FDA 1840 00:54:42,822 --> 00:54:46,909 and they approved it. 1841 00:54:46,951 --> 00:54:48,577 This was 1999, 1842 00:54:48,619 --> 00:54:52,789 and it reactivated 1843 00:54:48,619 --> 00:54:52,789 psychedelic research 1844 00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:58,503 after basically a 22-year 1845 00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:58,503 dormancy in the United States. 1846 00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:00,797 It's like 1847 00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:00,797 a Rip Van Winkle effect. 1848 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,592 You know, 1849 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,592 it's waking up 20 years later. 1850 00:55:04,635 --> 00:55:06,469 The methodologies, 1851 00:55:06,512 --> 00:55:10,224 the questions that we can ask 1852 00:55:06,512 --> 00:55:10,224 on so many different levels. 1853 00:55:14,896 --> 00:55:17,898 [Tony Head] I had been diagnosed 1854 00:55:14,896 --> 00:55:17,898 with prostate cancer. 1855 00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:22,652 My diagnosis was so bad 1856 00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:22,652 that... 1857 00:55:22,695 --> 00:55:27,199 You know, they weren't giving me 1858 00:55:22,695 --> 00:55:27,199 any chance whatsoever. 1859 00:55:27,242 --> 00:55:31,746 [Judith Goedeke] My diagnosis 1860 00:55:27,242 --> 00:55:31,746 was kidney cancer. 1861 00:55:31,786 --> 00:55:37,918 Finding out that you may want 1862 00:55:31,786 --> 00:55:37,918 to get your affairs in order. 1863 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,795 [Head] I first found out 1864 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,795 about the study 1865 00:55:39,836 --> 00:55:42,380 when my oncologist 1866 00:55:39,836 --> 00:55:42,380 gave me a pamphlet. 1867 00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:46,427 He said, "Here's something 1868 00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:46,427 that might be able to help 1869 00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:46,427 you with the anxiety." 1870 00:55:47,677 --> 00:55:50,264 And I was accepted 1871 00:55:47,677 --> 00:55:50,264 into the study. 1872 00:55:50,306 --> 00:55:51,639 The most important thing 1873 00:55:51,681 --> 00:55:55,476 is to remember 1874 00:55:51,681 --> 00:55:55,476 that you're always safe. 1875 00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:59,773 And a recommendation is 1876 00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:59,773 that whatever is coming up, 1877 00:55:59,815 --> 00:56:01,067 that you allow it, 1878 00:56:01,108 --> 00:56:03,152 that you don't have to like it, 1879 00:56:03,193 --> 00:56:05,070 but you say okay, 1880 00:56:05,112 --> 00:56:07,782 rather than trying 1881 00:56:05,112 --> 00:56:07,782 to run away from it. 1882 00:56:07,822 --> 00:56:10,659 Once a volunteer is 1883 00:56:07,822 --> 00:56:10,659 enrolled in the study, 1884 00:56:10,701 --> 00:56:13,036 they're with us 1885 00:56:10,701 --> 00:56:13,036 for the preparation, 1886 00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:14,413 the psilocybin sessions 1887 00:56:14,454 --> 00:56:16,831 and the integration 1888 00:56:14,454 --> 00:56:16,831 follow-ups after. 1889 00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:22,797 I have been a guide for 1890 00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:22,797 around 350 psilocybin sessions 1891 00:56:22,838 --> 00:56:24,422 and then about a thousand 1892 00:56:24,465 --> 00:56:26,967 of the preparatory 1893 00:56:24,465 --> 00:56:26,967 and integration meetings. 1894 00:56:27,009 --> 00:56:28,385 Alright. 1895 00:56:29,552 --> 00:56:31,222 Okay, lift your head up. 1896 00:56:31,264 --> 00:56:34,057 It's really just about 1897 00:56:31,264 --> 00:56:34,057 experiencing what comes up 1898 00:56:34,099 --> 00:56:36,601 as the psilocybin takes effect. 1899 00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,456 [Head] In the intense part 1900 00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,456 of this journey, 1901 00:56:58,498 --> 00:57:01,751 this world and things 1902 00:56:58,498 --> 00:57:01,751 that matter to most people, 1903 00:57:01,793 --> 00:57:03,211 family and all that, 1904 00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:05,922 that wasn't even 1905 00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:05,922 what it was about. 1906 00:57:05,965 --> 00:57:08,467 They say anything mystical 1907 00:57:05,965 --> 00:57:08,467 can't be explained. 1908 00:57:08,509 --> 00:57:10,135 It's something like that. 1909 00:57:10,177 --> 00:57:15,391 It's a feeling 1910 00:57:10,177 --> 00:57:15,391 of such immense power 1911 00:57:15,431 --> 00:57:18,101 that you can't even imagine. 1912 00:57:18,143 --> 00:57:20,646 I've never felt 1913 00:57:18,143 --> 00:57:20,646 anything like it before. 1914 00:57:23,315 --> 00:57:27,652 It was about being in a place 1915 00:57:23,315 --> 00:57:27,652 of infinite space 1916 00:57:27,695 --> 00:57:30,697 and just being there. 1917 00:57:35,702 --> 00:57:38,373 [Griffiths] There's a 1918 00:57:35,702 --> 00:57:38,373 experience of positive mood, 1919 00:57:38,414 --> 00:57:41,291 sometimes 1920 00:57:38,414 --> 00:57:41,291 openheartedness, love, 1921 00:57:41,333 --> 00:57:43,335 a transcendence 1922 00:57:41,333 --> 00:57:43,335 of time and space, 1923 00:57:43,378 --> 00:57:47,005 and then finally, it's 1924 00:57:43,378 --> 00:57:47,005 thought to be ineffable. 1925 00:57:48,507 --> 00:57:51,760 People say, "I can't describe 1926 00:57:48,507 --> 00:57:51,760 that experience." 1927 00:57:57,099 --> 00:57:59,809 [Goedeke] In my mind I said, 1928 00:57:57,099 --> 00:57:59,809 "Okay, hold it. 1929 00:57:59,851 --> 00:58:02,230 If I give myself over to you... 1930 00:58:03,063 --> 00:58:04,481 can you promise me 1931 00:58:04,523 --> 00:58:09,485 that I will be in at least 1932 00:58:04,523 --> 00:58:09,485 as strong a shape 1933 00:58:09,527 --> 00:58:12,239 as when I entered this room?" 1934 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,909 And I felt a voice 1935 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,909 that I needed to heed. 1936 00:58:17,494 --> 00:58:23,000 "Do you think I would 1937 00:58:17,494 --> 00:58:23,000 disrespect my own handiwork?" 1938 00:58:25,210 --> 00:58:27,755 This is the voice 1939 00:58:25,210 --> 00:58:27,755 from on high saying, 1940 00:58:27,795 --> 00:58:31,050 "Do you think I would 1941 00:58:27,795 --> 00:58:31,050 disrespect my child?" 1942 00:58:31,967 --> 00:58:35,137 And I felt so beautiful. 1943 00:58:36,389 --> 00:58:40,976 I felt like I have 1944 00:58:36,389 --> 00:58:40,976 never felt before. 1945 00:58:41,018 --> 00:58:43,144 My sense of being loved, 1946 00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:48,900 of being worthy of love, 1947 00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:48,900 of being cared for, 1948 00:58:48,943 --> 00:58:53,239 of being important 1949 00:58:48,943 --> 00:58:53,239 to someone. 1950 00:58:56,992 --> 00:58:58,577 It's huge. 1951 00:59:02,998 --> 00:59:06,376 You're going into it, 1952 00:59:02,998 --> 00:59:06,376 you're doing beautifully. 1953 00:59:22,851 --> 00:59:25,813 [Griffiths] One-third 1954 00:59:22,851 --> 00:59:25,813 of individuals in the study 1955 00:59:25,853 --> 00:59:28,190 said it's the single most 1956 00:59:28,231 --> 00:59:31,152 spiritually significant 1957 00:59:28,231 --> 00:59:31,152 experience of their lives. 1958 00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:34,070 About 70% say 1959 00:59:34,112 --> 00:59:39,327 it's among the five 1960 00:59:34,112 --> 00:59:39,327 most personally meaningful 1961 00:59:34,112 --> 00:59:39,327 experiences of their lives. 1962 00:59:39,367 --> 00:59:42,621 Then you say, 1963 00:59:39,367 --> 00:59:42,621 "Well, so what does that mean?" 1964 00:59:42,663 --> 00:59:45,458 You know? 1965 00:59:42,663 --> 00:59:45,458 And initially I thought, 1966 00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:49,545 I wonder if they don't have 1967 00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:49,545 pretty dull lives. 1968 00:59:49,585 --> 00:59:52,130 But no, 1969 00:59:49,585 --> 00:59:52,130 people would say, 1970 00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:56,635 you know, when my firstborn 1971 00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:56,635 came into this world, 1972 00:59:56,677 --> 00:59:58,219 I'll never forget that. 1973 00:59:58,262 --> 01:00:01,139 And life has never 1974 00:59:58,262 --> 01:00:01,139 been the same since. 1975 01:00:01,181 --> 01:00:05,643 Or my father passed away. 1976 01:00:01,181 --> 01:00:05,643 That was deeply moving to me. 1977 01:00:05,686 --> 01:00:07,480 I'm different now 1978 01:00:05,686 --> 01:00:07,480 in the world. 1979 01:00:07,521 --> 01:00:09,981 They say, you know, 1980 01:00:07,521 --> 01:00:09,981 it's kind of like that. 1981 01:00:12,733 --> 01:00:15,695 [Head] The most 1982 01:00:12,733 --> 01:00:15,695 glorious part was that 1983 01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:20,409 it made me feel more 1984 01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:20,409 comfortable with living, 1985 01:00:20,451 --> 01:00:23,161 you know, 1986 01:00:20,451 --> 01:00:23,161 because, uh... 1987 01:00:23,204 --> 01:00:26,081 you're not afraid of dying. 1988 01:00:27,916 --> 01:00:30,960 [Griffiths] Frankly, 1989 01:00:27,916 --> 01:00:30,960 I'm just a laboratory scientist 1990 01:00:31,003 --> 01:00:33,588 and I wasn't prepared for that. 1991 01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:37,842 [Richards] From the memory 1992 01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:37,842 of the transcendental state 1993 01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:37,842 of consciousness, 1994 01:00:37,885 --> 01:00:42,347 many people report less anxiety, 1995 01:00:37,885 --> 01:00:42,347 less depression, 1996 01:00:42,389 --> 01:00:45,226 less preoccupation 1997 01:00:42,389 --> 01:00:45,226 with pain, 1998 01:00:45,266 --> 01:00:48,603 closer interpersonal 1999 01:00:45,266 --> 01:00:48,603 relationships, 2000 01:00:48,644 --> 01:00:50,856 and perhaps most impressive, 2001 01:00:50,898 --> 01:00:55,193 they claim to have a loss 2002 01:00:50,898 --> 01:00:55,193 of the fear of death. 2003 01:00:55,235 --> 01:00:58,280 It recalibrates 2004 01:00:55,235 --> 01:00:58,280 how they see death. 2005 01:00:58,322 --> 01:01:02,201 [Anthony Bossis] 2006 01:00:58,322 --> 01:01:02,201 It's been amazing hearing them 2007 01:00:58,322 --> 01:01:02,201 talk about this idea of love. 2008 01:01:03,077 --> 01:01:04,411 Many of them spoke about 2009 01:01:04,452 --> 01:01:06,414 how nature itself 2010 01:01:04,452 --> 01:01:06,414 is something like 2011 01:01:06,454 --> 01:01:08,416 this substance called love. 2012 01:01:09,541 --> 01:01:11,543 And having touched that, 2013 01:01:11,585 --> 01:01:14,547 They've recalibrated 2014 01:01:11,585 --> 01:01:14,547 and reshaped how they 2015 01:01:11,585 --> 01:01:14,547 die differently. 2016 01:01:21,969 --> 01:01:24,056 [Jesse] The Johns Hopkins 2017 01:01:21,969 --> 01:01:24,056 psilocybin research team 2018 01:01:24,097 --> 01:01:27,434 has completed or has underway 2019 01:01:24,097 --> 01:01:27,434 a total of nine studies 2020 01:01:27,476 --> 01:01:30,144 and it got the 2021 01:01:27,476 --> 01:01:30,144 world's attention. 2022 01:01:34,483 --> 01:01:37,318 When we finally released the 2023 01:01:34,483 --> 01:01:37,318 results of our first experiment 2024 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,655 in a peer-reviewed 2025 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,655 scientific journal, 2026 01:01:39,695 --> 01:01:41,574 it was very gratifying to see 2027 01:01:41,615 --> 01:01:44,367 how the daily press 2028 01:01:41,615 --> 01:01:44,367 responded to it. 2029 01:01:44,409 --> 01:01:45,911 A little bit of health news 2030 01:01:44,409 --> 01:01:45,911 for you. 2031 01:01:45,952 --> 01:01:48,664 A single dose of psychedelic 2032 01:01:45,952 --> 01:01:48,664 magic mushrooms 2033 01:01:48,704 --> 01:01:51,291 can make people with severe 2034 01:01:48,704 --> 01:01:51,291 anxiety and depression 2035 01:01:51,333 --> 01:01:53,543 feel better for months. 2036 01:01:53,585 --> 01:01:56,713 [Richards] It changes the 2037 01:01:53,585 --> 01:01:56,713 way they view themselves, 2038 01:01:56,755 --> 01:01:59,425 other people in the world... 2039 01:01:59,467 --> 01:02:01,760 from a single experience, 2040 01:02:01,802 --> 01:02:05,306 not Prozac that you have 2041 01:02:01,802 --> 01:02:05,306 to keep taking day after day. 2042 01:02:06,931 --> 01:02:08,976 [Pollan] 2043 01:02:06,931 --> 01:02:08,976 These are not chronic drugs, 2044 01:02:09,016 --> 01:02:11,394 and that's where most 2045 01:02:09,016 --> 01:02:11,394 of the research 2046 01:02:11,436 --> 01:02:14,523 and development 2047 01:02:11,436 --> 01:02:14,523 in Big Pharma goes. 2048 01:02:14,565 --> 01:02:17,067 The treatments that are 2049 01:02:14,565 --> 01:02:17,067 being explored for psilocybin 2050 01:02:17,108 --> 01:02:22,114 involve one, two, maybe 2051 01:02:17,108 --> 01:02:22,114 three pills. That's it. 2052 01:02:22,155 --> 01:02:23,615 That's not a very good 2053 01:02:22,155 --> 01:02:23,615 business model. 2054 01:02:23,657 --> 01:02:25,742 You can't make 2055 01:02:23,657 --> 01:02:25,742 a lot of money that way. 2056 01:02:29,246 --> 01:02:34,208 The core of this mystical 2057 01:02:29,246 --> 01:02:34,208 experience is, um... 2058 01:02:35,503 --> 01:02:37,253 is a mystery, frankly. 2059 01:02:37,295 --> 01:02:39,507 It's the existential mystery 2060 01:02:39,547 --> 01:02:41,882 of what are we really 2061 01:02:39,547 --> 01:02:41,882 doing here? 2062 01:02:41,925 --> 01:02:44,760 What's the meaning 2063 01:02:41,925 --> 01:02:44,760 of all this? 2064 01:02:44,802 --> 01:02:48,889 and that is a very uplifting 2065 01:02:44,802 --> 01:02:48,889 kind of experience to have. 2066 01:02:48,931 --> 01:02:50,099 [Richards] As a whole, 2067 01:02:50,141 --> 01:02:52,143 there's a sense of being part 2068 01:02:52,186 --> 01:02:54,271 of a larger network. 2069 01:02:54,313 --> 01:03:00,652 And somehow, that's more real 2070 01:02:54,313 --> 01:03:00,652 after a mystical experience. 2071 01:03:02,278 --> 01:03:04,197 You feel that you 2072 01:03:02,278 --> 01:03:04,197 really are connected 2073 01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:05,990 in some meaningful way 2074 01:03:06,032 --> 01:03:09,244 with every atom 2075 01:03:06,032 --> 01:03:09,244 of the universe. 2076 01:03:09,286 --> 01:03:11,413 [Griffiths] 2077 01:03:09,286 --> 01:03:11,413 From my perspective, 2078 01:03:11,454 --> 01:03:13,956 this core experience informs 2079 01:03:13,998 --> 01:03:17,335 all of the religious, 2080 01:03:13,998 --> 01:03:17,335 ethical and moral traditions. 2081 01:03:17,378 --> 01:03:21,965 I mean, that is the core of 2082 01:03:17,378 --> 01:03:21,965 "Love thy neighbor as thyself." 2083 01:03:23,509 --> 01:03:26,469 If we don't get some 2084 01:03:23,509 --> 01:03:26,469 of these priorities straight 2085 01:03:26,512 --> 01:03:28,929 with respect to how 2086 01:03:26,512 --> 01:03:28,929 we treat other people, 2087 01:03:28,972 --> 01:03:31,932 how we treat our environment, 2088 01:03:31,974 --> 01:03:33,643 we're gonna 2089 01:03:31,974 --> 01:03:33,643 cease to exist. 2090 01:03:33,686 --> 01:03:36,896 I could see this 2091 01:03:33,686 --> 01:03:36,896 as being critical 2092 01:03:36,938 --> 01:03:39,483 to the evolution 2093 01:03:36,938 --> 01:03:39,483 of the species, frankly. 2094 01:03:42,110 --> 01:03:44,153 [P. Stamets] You wouldn't go 2095 01:03:42,110 --> 01:03:44,153 hiking the Himalaya mountains 2096 01:03:44,195 --> 01:03:45,655 without any preparation. 2097 01:03:45,697 --> 01:03:47,782 Well, this is a journey. 2098 01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:49,534 These are sacraments 2099 01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:49,534 and medicines 2100 01:03:49,577 --> 01:03:51,452 that should be treated 2101 01:03:49,577 --> 01:03:51,452 with respect 2102 01:03:51,494 --> 01:03:52,913 and caution. 2103 01:03:58,376 --> 01:04:02,047 Consider it to be going 2104 01:03:58,376 --> 01:04:02,047 to your own personal church. 2105 01:04:02,088 --> 01:04:05,259 You're going to sit 2106 01:04:02,088 --> 01:04:05,259 in awe of the universe. 2107 01:04:39,041 --> 01:04:40,585 [Bossis] We have a new study, 2108 01:04:39,041 --> 01:04:40,585 which is kind of remarkable. 2109 01:04:40,628 --> 01:04:42,503 It's work with 2110 01:04:40,628 --> 01:04:42,503 religious leaders. 2111 01:04:42,545 --> 01:04:45,465 These are ordained clergy 2112 01:04:42,545 --> 01:04:45,465 who have many traditions. 2113 01:04:45,507 --> 01:04:49,219 Christianity, Buddhism, 2114 01:04:45,507 --> 01:04:49,219 Judaism, Hinduism. 2115 01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:51,806 Since these experiences 2116 01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:51,806 are at the core 2117 01:04:51,847 --> 01:04:53,431 of the major religions, 2118 01:04:53,474 --> 01:04:56,059 why not bring in 2119 01:04:53,474 --> 01:04:56,059 religious leaders 2120 01:04:56,101 --> 01:04:59,019 who spent their careers 2121 01:04:56,101 --> 01:04:59,019 studying this landscape 2122 01:04:59,061 --> 01:05:01,440 to have the experience? 2123 01:05:16,704 --> 01:05:18,873 -[phone vibrating] 2124 01:05:16,704 --> 01:05:18,873 -[Stamets] You guys hear that? 2125 01:05:18,914 --> 01:05:21,001 -You didn't? 2126 01:05:18,914 --> 01:05:21,001 -[man] Vibrating? 2127 01:05:21,041 --> 01:05:22,878 Vibrating. 2128 01:05:21,041 --> 01:05:22,878 Phone call was coming in. 2129 01:05:22,918 --> 01:05:24,128 There she goes. 2130 01:05:25,422 --> 01:05:27,423 Message from Mom. 2131 01:05:27,465 --> 01:05:29,217 Inbound message 2132 01:05:27,465 --> 01:05:29,217 from Mother. 2133 01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:31,427 [P. Stamets] I think I had 2134 01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:31,427 the best of all mothers. 2135 01:05:31,469 --> 01:05:33,681 My mother was extremely kind. 2136 01:05:37,434 --> 01:05:41,563 [cheering and applause] 2137 01:05:41,605 --> 01:05:45,567 So another mushroom 2138 01:05:41,605 --> 01:05:45,567 empowers the immune system 2139 01:05:45,608 --> 01:05:47,193 and this is turkey tails. 2140 01:05:47,235 --> 01:05:49,153 and turkey tail mushrooms 2141 01:05:47,235 --> 01:05:49,153 have also been used 2142 01:05:49,195 --> 01:05:51,155 for more than a thousand years. 2143 01:05:51,197 --> 01:05:55,994 This hit home to me very 2144 01:05:51,197 --> 01:05:55,994 personally, in June of 2009 2145 01:05:56,036 --> 01:05:58,454 when my 84-year-old mother 2146 01:05:56,036 --> 01:05:58,454 called me up 2147 01:05:58,496 --> 01:06:00,206 and said, "Paul, 2148 01:06:00,248 --> 01:06:02,250 I have something very serious 2149 01:06:00,248 --> 01:06:02,250 to talk to you about." 2150 01:06:02,291 --> 01:06:05,920 She said, "My right breast is 2151 01:06:02,291 --> 01:06:05,920 five times the size of my left. 2152 01:06:05,961 --> 01:06:09,632 I have six swollen lymph glands 2153 01:06:05,961 --> 01:06:09,632 the size of walnuts," 2154 01:06:09,675 --> 01:06:11,300 and her voice started shaking 2155 01:06:11,342 --> 01:06:13,010 and I'm not ashamed to admit 2156 01:06:11,342 --> 01:06:13,010 that I started crying. 2157 01:06:13,052 --> 01:06:16,222 She had stage four 2158 01:06:13,052 --> 01:06:16,222 breast cancer. 2159 01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:17,724 But then the doctor said, 2160 01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:17,724 "You know, 2161 01:06:17,766 --> 01:06:19,559 you're too old to 2162 01:06:17,766 --> 01:06:19,559 have radiation therapy. 2163 01:06:19,601 --> 01:06:21,686 You can't have your 2164 01:06:19,601 --> 01:06:21,686 breasts removed. 2165 01:06:21,728 --> 01:06:24,271 But there's an interesting study 2166 01:06:21,728 --> 01:06:24,271 on turkey tail mushrooms 2167 01:06:24,313 --> 01:06:25,565 at Bastyr Medical School. 2168 01:06:25,606 --> 01:06:28,193 You might want 2169 01:06:25,606 --> 01:06:28,193 to try taking those." 2170 01:06:28,235 --> 01:06:29,443 And that's-- my mom goes, 2171 01:06:29,485 --> 01:06:31,278 "Well, my son's 2172 01:06:29,485 --> 01:06:31,278 supplying those." 2173 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,324 So she was put on Taxol 2174 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,324 and Herceptin, wonderful drugs. 2175 01:06:35,367 --> 01:06:36,617 And then she started taking 2176 01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:38,327 eight turkey tail 2177 01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:38,327 capsules a day. 2178 01:06:38,369 --> 01:06:41,121 Four in the morning 2179 01:06:38,369 --> 01:06:41,121 and four in the evening, 2180 01:06:41,164 --> 01:06:44,668 and that was in June of 2009. 2181 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:49,547 And today, my mother 2182 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:49,547 has no detectable tumors. 2183 01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:51,967 And I'd like 2184 01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:51,967 to bring my mother up. 2185 01:07:05,396 --> 01:07:08,148 You have to live through 2186 01:07:05,396 --> 01:07:08,148 it to believe it. 2187 01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:11,612 Hey, by the way, thank you 2188 01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:11,612 for giving birth to me. 2189 01:07:11,652 --> 01:07:12,905 I really appreciate that. 2190 01:07:12,947 --> 01:07:15,322 Oh, you haven't 2191 01:07:12,947 --> 01:07:15,322 thanked me lately? 2192 01:07:18,911 --> 01:07:21,329 [P. Stamets] It has been 2193 01:07:18,911 --> 01:07:21,329 reported in literature that 2194 01:07:21,371 --> 01:07:23,331 medicinal mushrooms 2195 01:07:21,371 --> 01:07:23,331 like turkey tail 2196 01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:25,583 help chemotherapeutic 2197 01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:25,583 agents work better. 2198 01:07:25,626 --> 01:07:27,920 And I think she's 2199 01:07:25,626 --> 01:07:27,920 a living example of that. 2200 01:07:36,427 --> 01:07:39,014 One can argue with me 2201 01:07:36,427 --> 01:07:39,014 on the statistics, 2202 01:07:39,054 --> 01:07:40,556 but my mother's alive, 2203 01:07:40,599 --> 01:07:42,851 and all the doctors 2204 01:07:40,599 --> 01:07:42,851 that saw her 2205 01:07:42,893 --> 01:07:45,646 did not believe 2206 01:07:42,893 --> 01:07:45,646 that she would survive. 2207 01:08:00,117 --> 01:08:02,369 [man] It is my great honor... 2208 01:08:02,411 --> 01:08:04,748 to introduce Paul Stamets. 2209 01:08:04,789 --> 01:08:08,208 [cheering and applause] 2210 01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:13,673 I have brought 2211 01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:13,673 a fungal friend of mine 2212 01:08:13,715 --> 01:08:15,342 from the old-growth forest 2213 01:08:15,382 --> 01:08:19,429 and I present to you... 2214 01:08:15,382 --> 01:08:19,429 Agarikon. 2215 01:08:19,470 --> 01:08:22,349 [cheering and applause] 2216 01:08:25,435 --> 01:08:27,813 Agarikon was described 2217 01:08:25,435 --> 01:08:27,813 in 65 A.D. 2218 01:08:27,854 --> 01:08:30,314 as elixirium ad longam vitam. 2219 01:08:30,356 --> 01:08:32,067 "The elixir of long life." 2220 01:08:34,444 --> 01:08:36,112 So I want to take you 2221 01:08:36,154 --> 01:08:38,573 on a magical mushroom 2222 01:08:36,154 --> 01:08:38,573 mystery tour. 2223 01:08:40,449 --> 01:08:43,787 and I'm going to push 2224 01:08:40,449 --> 01:08:43,787 the envelope here, folks. 2225 01:08:43,828 --> 01:08:47,666 Microdiversity 2226 01:08:43,828 --> 01:08:47,666 is biodiversity. 2227 01:08:47,707 --> 01:08:51,670 You will decompose. 2228 01:08:47,707 --> 01:08:51,670 I'm going to decompose. 2229 01:08:51,712 --> 01:08:53,005 We're all gonna die. 2230 01:08:54,421 --> 01:08:55,923 That's okay, 2231 01:08:55,966 --> 01:08:59,260 because we will enter 2232 01:08:55,966 --> 01:08:59,260 into the micro-verse. 2233 01:09:01,055 --> 01:09:03,472 We will forever exist together 2234 01:09:03,515 --> 01:09:06,266 within the 2235 01:09:03,515 --> 01:09:06,266 micromolecular matrix. 2236 01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:08,269 [Lincoff] When he talks 2237 01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:08,269 the way he does, 2238 01:09:08,310 --> 01:09:09,395 he is... 2239 01:09:09,436 --> 01:09:12,649 channeling the mycelium. 2240 01:09:12,690 --> 01:09:15,860 And this is a marvelous thing. 2241 01:09:15,903 --> 01:09:17,319 Brain neurons, 2242 01:09:17,362 --> 01:09:18,320 mycelium, 2243 01:09:18,363 --> 01:09:20,573 the computer internet, 2244 01:09:20,614 --> 01:09:24,744 the organization of the universe 2245 01:09:20,614 --> 01:09:24,744 all shares the same archetype. 2246 01:09:24,786 --> 01:09:28,082 I believe matter 2247 01:09:24,786 --> 01:09:28,082 begets life. 2248 01:09:28,122 --> 01:09:29,957 Life becomes single cells. 2249 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,918 Single cells form chains. 2250 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,046 Chains forms branches. 2251 01:09:34,087 --> 01:09:40,761 Matrices form interlocking, 2252 01:09:34,087 --> 01:09:40,761 intersecting mosaics of mycelium 2253 01:09:40,801 --> 01:09:44,430 and mycelium-like 2254 01:09:40,801 --> 01:09:44,430 organisms ebb and flow 2255 01:09:44,471 --> 01:09:45,974 not only on this planet, 2256 01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:48,475 on other planets 2257 01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:48,475 into the future. 2258 01:09:48,518 --> 01:09:50,185 Thank you very much. 2259 01:09:56,984 --> 01:09:59,029 Paul was wonderful 2260 01:09:56,984 --> 01:09:59,029 in bringing us information 2261 01:09:59,070 --> 01:10:01,073 about all these 2262 01:09:59,070 --> 01:10:01,073 aspects of mushrooms 2263 01:10:01,114 --> 01:10:04,324 and then it inspired 2264 01:10:01,114 --> 01:10:04,324 all these young people. 2265 01:10:04,367 --> 01:10:06,119 Now we have people 2266 01:10:04,367 --> 01:10:06,119 like Tradd Cotter 2267 01:10:06,161 --> 01:10:08,203 carrying on the great work 2268 01:10:06,161 --> 01:10:08,203 that Paul started, 2269 01:10:08,246 --> 01:10:10,247 talking about biopesticides, 2270 01:10:10,289 --> 01:10:12,960 talking about the ways 2271 01:10:10,289 --> 01:10:12,960 you could detoxify oil. 2272 01:10:13,001 --> 01:10:15,502 All of these amazing 2273 01:10:13,001 --> 01:10:15,502 things were started 2274 01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:16,796 because people like Paul 2275 01:10:16,837 --> 01:10:18,756 brought that to 2276 01:10:16,837 --> 01:10:18,756 the culture at large 2277 01:10:18,798 --> 01:10:20,382 and young people now 2278 01:10:18,798 --> 01:10:20,382 have taken up the cause 2279 01:10:20,425 --> 01:10:22,927 and are really expanding 2280 01:10:20,425 --> 01:10:22,927 our insights 2281 01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:25,512 into what the world 2282 01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:25,512 of mushrooms can do for us. 2283 01:10:25,555 --> 01:10:27,015 Hi, my name's Peter 2284 01:10:27,056 --> 01:10:28,809 and I'm with the radical 2285 01:10:27,056 --> 01:10:28,809 mycology project. 2286 01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:30,060 I recently trained a mushroom 2287 01:10:30,101 --> 01:10:31,979 to digest used 2288 01:10:30,101 --> 01:10:31,979 cigarette filters. 2289 01:10:32,020 --> 01:10:33,729 [Peter McCoy] Paul Stamets's 2290 01:10:32,020 --> 01:10:33,729 book, Mycelium Running 2291 01:10:33,771 --> 01:10:35,649 got my mind sort of in a whirl. 2292 01:10:35,689 --> 01:10:37,317 That was when I 2293 01:10:35,689 --> 01:10:37,317 first discovered that 2294 01:10:37,358 --> 01:10:41,279 there was much more to 2295 01:10:37,358 --> 01:10:41,279 mushrooms than just food. 2296 01:10:42,363 --> 01:10:43,739 [Brown] If you would've seen me 2297 01:10:43,782 --> 01:10:45,033 when I dropped out 2298 01:10:43,782 --> 01:10:45,033 of high school, 2299 01:10:45,074 --> 01:10:46,576 I was just making rap music. 2300 01:10:46,618 --> 01:10:48,368 I knew very little 2301 01:10:46,618 --> 01:10:48,368 about the natural world. 2302 01:10:48,411 --> 01:10:50,997 I had never even went 2303 01:10:48,411 --> 01:10:50,997 on a hike until I was 18, 2304 01:10:51,038 --> 01:10:52,832 but finding Paul Stamets' 2305 01:10:51,038 --> 01:10:52,832 TED talk video 2306 01:10:52,873 --> 01:10:55,168 was one of the biggest 2307 01:10:52,873 --> 01:10:55,168 inspirations that pushed me 2308 01:10:55,210 --> 01:10:57,837 into the wonderful world 2309 01:10:55,210 --> 01:10:57,837 of mycology. 2310 01:10:57,878 --> 01:10:59,338 My first mushroom book 2311 01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:01,341 was The Mushroom Cultivator 2312 01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:01,341 by Paul Stamets. 2313 01:11:01,381 --> 01:11:04,177 [Furci] I will be eternally 2314 01:11:01,381 --> 01:11:04,177 thankful to him 2315 01:11:04,219 --> 01:11:07,346 for showing me that it's okay 2316 01:11:04,219 --> 01:11:07,346 to be mushroom mad. 2317 01:11:07,387 --> 01:11:11,225 [Lori Cariss] We really don't 2318 01:11:07,387 --> 01:11:11,225 even know most fungi. 2319 01:11:11,266 --> 01:11:14,188 We're discovering new species 2320 01:11:11,266 --> 01:11:14,188 on a daily basis 2321 01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:16,523 and you don't have to go 2322 01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:16,523 to exotic locations 2323 01:11:16,564 --> 01:11:17,649 to discover them. 2324 01:11:18,984 --> 01:11:20,527 [McCoy] Anybody can 2325 01:11:18,984 --> 01:11:20,527 add to the science, 2326 01:11:20,568 --> 01:11:22,029 from identifying a new species 2327 01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:24,113 to developing a new 2328 01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:24,113 micro-mediation protocol. 2329 01:11:24,155 --> 01:11:27,908 [Cariss] There is a great need 2330 01:11:24,155 --> 01:11:27,908 for more people to study fungi 2331 01:11:27,951 --> 01:11:30,703 and there's lots 2332 01:11:27,951 --> 01:11:30,703 of opportunities. 2333 01:11:30,744 --> 01:11:32,831 [Pollan] It's amazing what 2334 01:11:30,744 --> 01:11:32,831 we don't know about mushrooms. 2335 01:11:32,872 --> 01:11:35,042 They really are a frontier 2336 01:11:32,872 --> 01:11:35,042 of knowledge. 2337 01:11:35,082 --> 01:11:38,837 They probably can help us 2338 01:11:35,082 --> 01:11:38,837 solve all sorts of problems 2339 01:11:38,878 --> 01:11:41,047 if we look a little deeper. 2340 01:11:41,088 --> 01:11:43,423 [Cotter] Anyone, anyone can help 2341 01:11:43,466 --> 01:11:44,801 by going and walking 2342 01:11:43,466 --> 01:11:44,801 in the woods 2343 01:11:44,842 --> 01:11:46,720 and contributing 2344 01:11:44,842 --> 01:11:46,720 to mycology. 2345 01:11:46,761 --> 01:11:49,430 You may have found a species 2346 01:11:46,761 --> 01:11:49,430 that has never been found. 2347 01:11:51,099 --> 01:11:52,684 We need these mushrooms. 2348 01:11:52,725 --> 01:11:56,604 We work together as a community 2349 01:11:52,725 --> 01:11:56,604 to solve problems. 2350 01:11:56,645 --> 01:12:01,484 We could be the community 2351 01:11:56,645 --> 01:12:01,484 that heals the planet. 2352 01:12:01,525 --> 01:12:04,319 [P. Stamets] It's been estimated 2353 01:12:01,525 --> 01:12:04,319 two-thirds of our food supply 2354 01:12:04,362 --> 01:12:06,655 is bee-pollinated-dependent. 2355 01:12:06,698 --> 01:12:09,367 Unfortunately, we're losing 2356 01:12:06,698 --> 01:12:09,367 bees across the world 2357 01:12:09,408 --> 01:12:11,493 in a dramatic die-off 2358 01:12:09,408 --> 01:12:11,493 that is very dangerous 2359 01:12:11,536 --> 01:12:14,788 for the biosecurity 2360 01:12:11,536 --> 01:12:14,788 of this planet. 2361 01:12:14,831 --> 01:12:17,000 So I started exploring ways 2362 01:12:14,831 --> 01:12:17,000 to help save the bees 2363 01:12:17,042 --> 01:12:18,585 and I noticed 2364 01:12:17,042 --> 01:12:18,585 in the summertime 2365 01:12:18,626 --> 01:12:20,336 there's a continuous 2366 01:12:18,626 --> 01:12:20,336 convoy of bees 2367 01:12:20,377 --> 01:12:22,963 going from my beehives 2368 01:12:20,377 --> 01:12:22,963 to my mycelium. 2369 01:12:23,006 --> 01:12:24,841 But then it dawned on me, 2370 01:12:24,882 --> 01:12:27,426 maybe the bees are benefiting 2371 01:12:24,882 --> 01:12:27,426 from the mycelial extracts 2372 01:12:27,467 --> 01:12:29,054 because they have 2373 01:12:27,467 --> 01:12:29,054 antiviral properties. 2374 01:12:29,095 --> 01:12:32,347 And so I cultured the most 2375 01:12:29,095 --> 01:12:32,347 aggressive strains 2376 01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:34,016 and then submitted them. 2377 01:12:34,059 --> 01:12:36,394 We started testing the 2378 01:12:34,059 --> 01:12:36,394 effects of these extracts 2379 01:12:36,435 --> 01:12:39,189 in helping bees survive. 2380 01:12:39,230 --> 01:12:41,356 [Nicholas Naeger] Some of these 2381 01:12:39,230 --> 01:12:41,356 fungal extracts are really good 2382 01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:44,359 at reducing viral 2383 01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:44,359 levels in the bee. 2384 01:12:44,402 --> 01:12:45,819 So here we have a fungus 2385 01:12:45,862 --> 01:12:49,115 that is helping fight 2386 01:12:45,862 --> 01:12:49,115 viruses in an insect. 2387 01:12:49,157 --> 01:12:50,658 [man] We're using 2388 01:12:49,157 --> 01:12:50,658 mushrooms to create 2389 01:12:50,699 --> 01:12:52,743 an entirely new class 2390 01:12:50,699 --> 01:12:52,743 of materials 2391 01:12:52,786 --> 01:12:55,747 which are totally compostable 2392 01:12:52,786 --> 01:12:55,747 at the end of their lives. 2393 01:12:56,914 --> 01:12:58,498 [woman] 2394 01:12:56,914 --> 01:12:58,498 The researchers found that 2395 01:12:58,541 --> 01:13:00,627 when they heated 2396 01:12:58,541 --> 01:13:00,627 a portobello mushroom skin 2397 01:13:00,667 --> 01:13:02,296 to roughly 2,000 2398 01:13:00,667 --> 01:13:02,296 degrees Fahrenheit, 2399 01:13:02,337 --> 01:13:04,546 it became a lattice 2400 01:13:02,337 --> 01:13:04,546 of carbon nano ribbon 2401 01:13:04,588 --> 01:13:06,341 that could be used 2402 01:13:04,588 --> 01:13:06,341 in battery design 2403 01:13:06,381 --> 01:13:08,051 because it allows a good 2404 01:13:06,381 --> 01:13:08,051 amount of surface area 2405 01:13:08,092 --> 01:13:09,344 for storing energy. 2406 01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:12,012 [Cotter] 2407 01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:12,012 You can filter water. 2408 01:13:12,055 --> 01:13:15,141 You can create medicinal 2409 01:13:12,055 --> 01:13:15,141 compounds almost on demand. 2410 01:13:15,182 --> 01:13:16,850 We've worked in Haiti, 2411 01:13:16,893 --> 01:13:18,353 and they look at you 2412 01:13:16,893 --> 01:13:18,353 like I have super powers. 2413 01:13:18,394 --> 01:13:20,520 Well, I tell them, I said, 2414 01:13:20,563 --> 01:13:22,649 "You are about to 2415 01:13:20,563 --> 01:13:22,649 have superpowers too." 2416 01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:26,402 [Brown] Coming from 2417 01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:26,402 the background of not 2418 01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:26,402 having any training, 2419 01:13:26,444 --> 01:13:28,904 getting myself into the 2420 01:13:26,444 --> 01:13:28,904 lab was very empowering. 2421 01:13:28,947 --> 01:13:30,864 I felt like a superhero. 2422 01:13:28,947 --> 01:13:30,864 I felt like I could do anything. 2423 01:13:32,367 --> 01:13:34,493 You're officially 2424 01:13:32,367 --> 01:13:34,493 a mushroom farmer. 2425 01:13:35,578 --> 01:13:37,288 Sporulating. 2426 01:13:35,578 --> 01:13:37,288 Sporgasm. 2427 01:13:37,331 --> 01:13:40,875 [Lincoff] I see my species 2428 01:13:37,331 --> 01:13:40,875 as part of a larger whole. 2429 01:13:40,917 --> 01:13:43,461 Rather than being at 2430 01:13:40,917 --> 01:13:43,461 the top of the pyramid, 2431 01:13:43,502 --> 01:13:47,590 being one of the organisms 2432 01:13:43,502 --> 01:13:47,590 with inside the circle. 2433 01:13:47,631 --> 01:13:51,051 and the circle is 2434 01:13:47,631 --> 01:13:51,051 made up of mycelium, 2435 01:13:51,094 --> 01:13:52,845 holding us all together. 2436 01:14:00,686 --> 01:14:03,689 [Simard] We've always thought of 2437 01:14:00,686 --> 01:14:03,689 plants as these inert objects, 2438 01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:08,569 these things that don't 2439 01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:08,569 actually interact with 2440 01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:08,569 each other and build things, 2441 01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:11,113 and what my work 2442 01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:11,113 is showing, and other 2443 01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:11,113 people's work as well, 2444 01:14:11,155 --> 01:14:14,993 it's saying actually, 2445 01:14:11,155 --> 01:14:14,993 they need each other. 2446 01:14:15,034 --> 01:14:17,619 They need each other 2447 01:14:15,034 --> 01:14:17,619 to grow in a community 2448 01:14:17,662 --> 01:14:19,956 so that they can start 2449 01:14:17,662 --> 01:14:19,956 sharing the load. 2450 01:14:19,997 --> 01:14:22,250 You do this, I'll do that, 2451 01:14:19,997 --> 01:14:22,250 and together, 2452 01:14:22,292 --> 01:14:24,961 we can make a beautiful 2453 01:14:22,292 --> 01:14:24,961 resilient community. 2454 01:14:27,421 --> 01:14:29,090 They have incredible capacity 2455 01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:31,926 to make things change 2456 01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:31,926 very, very quickly. 2457 01:14:31,967 --> 01:14:33,845 So if we can work with them, 2458 01:14:33,886 --> 01:14:36,014 if we get it, you know? 2459 01:14:33,886 --> 01:14:36,014 If humans get it, 2460 01:14:36,055 --> 01:14:38,725 we can change this 2461 01:14:36,055 --> 01:14:38,725 thing really fast. 2462 01:14:38,765 --> 01:14:40,435 So I am super hopeful. 2463 01:14:40,475 --> 01:14:43,354 We just got to get busy 2464 01:14:40,475 --> 01:14:43,354 and help nature do its thing. 2465 01:14:49,152 --> 01:14:50,569 Evolution never stops. 2466 01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:52,279 There's not one point 2467 01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:52,279 that it happens 2468 01:14:52,322 --> 01:14:53,739 and then it 2469 01:14:52,322 --> 01:14:53,739 doesn't happen again. 2470 01:14:53,780 --> 01:14:55,658 It's continuously happening. 2471 01:15:01,081 --> 01:15:02,832 The core concept of evolution 2472 01:15:02,873 --> 01:15:04,376 is that through 2473 01:15:02,873 --> 01:15:04,376 natural selection, 2474 01:15:04,417 --> 01:15:07,545 the strongest 2475 01:15:04,417 --> 01:15:07,545 and the fittest survive. 2476 01:15:07,587 --> 01:15:09,171 But moreover, 2477 01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:12,216 communities survive better 2478 01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:12,216 than individuals. 2479 01:15:12,259 --> 01:15:14,635 Communities rely 2480 01:15:12,259 --> 01:15:14,635 upon cooperation, 2481 01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:17,346 and I think that's 2482 01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:17,346 the power of goodness. 2483 01:15:18,890 --> 01:15:20,266 Evolution is based 2484 01:15:20,307 --> 01:15:23,310 on the concept 2485 01:15:20,307 --> 01:15:23,310 of mutual benefit, 2486 01:15:23,353 --> 01:15:26,439 and the extension 2487 01:15:23,353 --> 01:15:26,439 of generosity. 2488 01:15:29,524 --> 01:15:32,404 [Simard] When we see it, 2489 01:15:29,524 --> 01:15:32,404 we understand it. 2490 01:15:32,445 --> 01:15:34,654 And when we understand it, 2491 01:15:32,445 --> 01:15:34,654 we care about it. 2492 01:15:34,697 --> 01:15:36,115 And when we care about it, 2493 01:15:36,157 --> 01:15:38,868 we'll do something 2494 01:15:36,157 --> 01:15:38,868 to help save it. 2495 01:15:38,909 --> 01:15:41,746 We need to have a paradigm shift 2496 01:15:38,909 --> 01:15:41,746 in our consciousness. 2497 01:15:41,787 --> 01:15:43,372 What will it take 2498 01:15:41,787 --> 01:15:43,372 to achieve that? 2499 01:15:47,377 --> 01:15:49,712 We are not an individual. 2500 01:15:49,753 --> 01:15:51,588 We are a vast network 2501 01:15:51,631 --> 01:15:55,342 of molecules and 2502 01:15:51,631 --> 01:15:55,342 energies and wavelengths. 2503 01:15:55,385 --> 01:15:59,389 The interconnectedness of 2504 01:15:55,385 --> 01:15:59,389 being is who we are. 2505 01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:07,229 [narrator] This world of 2506 01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:07,229 ours is always changing, 2507 01:16:07,271 --> 01:16:09,689 not for the better 2508 01:16:07,271 --> 01:16:09,689 or for the worse, 2509 01:16:11,024 --> 01:16:13,069 but for life. 2510 01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:16,780 If the storms come 2511 01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:16,780 and the water rises, 2512 01:16:16,823 --> 01:16:19,742 if fire scorches the land, 2513 01:16:19,783 --> 01:16:21,953 or darkness descends, 2514 01:16:21,994 --> 01:16:23,287 we will be here 2515 01:16:24,497 --> 01:16:26,500 working, 2516 01:16:26,541 --> 01:16:28,376 as we always have. 2517 01:16:29,127 --> 01:16:31,253 Extending the network. 2518 01:16:31,296 --> 01:16:33,422 Building community. 2519 01:16:33,465 --> 01:16:35,382 Restoring balance. 2520 01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:39,220 One connection at a time. 2521 01:16:42,055 --> 01:16:44,766 It may take a million years, 2522 01:16:44,809 --> 01:16:46,978 or a hundred million, 2523 01:16:47,020 --> 01:16:51,315 but we will still be here. 2524 01:17:58,882 --> 01:18:01,969 [computer] 2525 01:17:58,882 --> 01:18:01,969 Lieutenant Paul Stamets. 2526 01:18:02,011 --> 01:18:05,847 I became an astral mycologist 2527 01:18:02,011 --> 01:18:05,847 because of awe. 2528 01:18:05,890 --> 01:18:07,600 Awe at the miracle of life. 2529 01:18:07,641 --> 01:18:09,060 [TV host] How did you feel 2530 01:18:09,101 --> 01:18:11,186 seeing a fictional 2531 01:18:09,101 --> 01:18:11,186 character on Star Trek 2532 01:18:11,229 --> 01:18:13,189 that is inspired 2533 01:18:11,229 --> 01:18:13,189 by your science? 2534 01:18:13,230 --> 01:18:14,981 I'm super honored. 2535 01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:16,943 I tuned into Star Trek when 2536 01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:16,943 I was about 12 years old. 2537 01:18:16,984 --> 01:18:20,279 Spores by their nature 2538 01:18:16,984 --> 01:18:20,279 travel through the cosmos. 2539 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,948 When they germinate, 2540 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,948 some mushrooms form. 2541 01:18:22,989 --> 01:18:26,118 Some magic mushrooms help you 2542 01:18:22,989 --> 01:18:26,118 bend time and space. 2543 01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:27,869 [laughter] 2544 01:18:27,912 --> 01:18:31,082 [TV host] So, uh, 2545 01:18:27,912 --> 01:18:31,082 if I were to visit you... 2546 01:18:31,123 --> 01:18:34,710 could we have some 2547 01:18:31,123 --> 01:18:34,710 of these magic mushrooms? 2548 01:18:34,752 --> 01:18:36,337 [P. Stamets] 2549 01:18:34,752 --> 01:18:36,337 Nature provides. I don't. 2550 01:18:36,378 --> 01:18:38,713 [laughter] 168698

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