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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,612 --> 00:00:13,558 Marker. 2 00:00:13,664 --> 00:00:15,928 Stand by. Background action. Yeah. 3 00:00:15,999 --> 00:00:17,091 Action. 4 00:00:17,184 --> 00:00:18,367 Action! 5 00:00:20,821 --> 00:00:22,289 Okay, hang on. 6 00:00:24,408 --> 00:00:26,035 The shark is networking. 7 00:00:29,196 --> 00:00:31,995 We're having a little problem with the shark here. 8 00:00:32,099 --> 00:00:33,191 Bob, we need you. 9 00:00:33,734 --> 00:00:35,828 The shark is not working. 10 00:00:35,936 --> 00:00:37,415 Roy? 11 00:00:37,487 --> 00:00:38,682 Has anybody seen Roy? 12 00:00:38,755 --> 00:00:41,952 The shark is not working. Repeat, the shark is not working. 13 00:00:47,164 --> 00:00:48,848 Can't get it to work at all. 14 00:00:50,334 --> 00:00:51,642 AH right, let's try this again. 15 00:00:51,752 --> 00:00:53,436 Okay, rolling. Action! 16 00:01:02,296 --> 00:01:04,606 The shark is working again. 17 00:01:07,618 --> 00:01:10,610 Joe here, the boat is sinking. 18 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,548 Three decades after the release 19 00:01:14,625 --> 00:01:18,141 of what many consider to be the original summer blockbuster, 20 00:01:18,245 --> 00:01:21,943 stories of the hardships experienced during the filming of Jaws 21 00:01:22,049 --> 00:01:24,484 are the stuff of Hollywood legend. 22 00:01:24,585 --> 00:01:28,635 It filled me up with stories that I could dine out on for 35 years. 23 00:01:28,722 --> 00:01:33,592 If I wanted to, I could just hold back any but the stories from Jaws. 24 00:01:34,628 --> 00:01:37,677 Through accounts like Carl Gottlieb's The Jaws Log 25 00:01:37,748 --> 00:01:41,798 and numerous television documentaries, multitudes of movie buffs 26 00:01:41,902 --> 00:01:46,339 are familiar with those famous tales of the shark not working. 27 00:01:48,392 --> 00:01:51,874 We were all groping in the dark for a way to tell the story, 28 00:01:51,979 --> 00:01:54,914 because the shark wasn't working. It kept breaking down. 29 00:01:55,015 --> 00:01:59,179 It is as if God created the devil 30 00:01:59,286 --> 00:02:01,721 and gave him jaws. 31 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:10,258 Jaws, one of Hollywood's little movies that couldn't, 32 00:02:10,364 --> 00:02:13,777 emerged as a record-shattering box office juggernaut, 33 00:02:14,034 --> 00:02:15,798 then an Oscar contender. 34 00:02:15,886 --> 00:02:19,880 And today, stands as a critically-acclaimed enduring classic 35 00:02:19,956 --> 00:02:24,325 that after all this time shows no sign of losing its bite. 36 00:02:24,411 --> 00:02:29,429 What we are dealing with here is a perfect engine, an eating machine. 37 00:02:30,534 --> 00:02:33,913 Michael, did you hear your father? Out of the water now! 38 00:02:34,021 --> 00:02:36,820 Opening the beaches on the Fourth of July is like ringing the dinner bell. 39 00:02:36,907 --> 00:02:39,171 This shark, swallow you whole. 40 00:02:41,228 --> 00:02:43,742 My heart was beating so fast. 41 00:02:43,814 --> 00:02:46,761 I didn't know, as an adult, I could get that soared anymore. 42 00:02:46,867 --> 00:02:50,565 One thing, it's a real thing, not a monster from outer space. 43 00:02:50,671 --> 00:02:52,651 Sharks are real. 44 00:02:52,723 --> 00:02:56,182 The film sparked a pop cultural obsession with sharks 45 00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:59,342 and heightened public awareness of real life shark attacks. 46 00:03:00,931 --> 00:03:04,947 And though numerous copycat pictures have come and gone, 47 00:03:05,052 --> 00:03:09,046 Jaws still remains that singular cinematic experience 48 00:03:09,156 --> 00:03:11,898 that keeps bathers close to the shore. 49 00:03:14,728 --> 00:03:18,107 The movie itself is what first put the terror into me. 50 00:03:18,181 --> 00:03:20,843 Every time you felt a bit of seaweed brush your foot, 51 00:03:20,917 --> 00:03:22,476 you would have been thinking about it. 52 00:03:22,552 --> 00:03:27,467 I still get a little nervous in water, being like, "Is there a shark in here?" 53 00:03:28,842 --> 00:03:32,540 Not only did it impact the way movies are made and marketed, 54 00:03:32,646 --> 00:03:36,549 but it maintains a legacy kept alive by legions of fans, 55 00:03:36,650 --> 00:03:39,699 artists and even successful filmmakers, 56 00:03:39,770 --> 00:03:43,866 who cite this picture as a defining life experience, 57 00:03:43,940 --> 00:03:45,874 helping to make them who they are today. 58 00:03:45,942 --> 00:03:49,708 Anyone who's around my age, who is in this movie business, 59 00:03:49,780 --> 00:03:51,896 always cites Jaws as the first movie 60 00:03:51,982 --> 00:03:54,098 that made them want to get into movies. 61 00:03:55,952 --> 00:03:58,717 It's therefore no wonder that after 30 years, 62 00:03:58,789 --> 00:04:01,520 the shark is indeed still working. 63 00:04:21,428 --> 00:04:24,841 When I was writing Jaws, I knew that it could not be a success. 64 00:04:24,915 --> 00:04:26,497 It couldn't be a success as a novel 65 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,444 because, first of all, it's a first novel and nobody reads first novels. 66 00:04:29,536 --> 00:04:33,586 It was a first novel about a fish, so give me a break, who cares? 67 00:04:33,657 --> 00:04:35,489 I knew they couldn't make a movie about it 68 00:04:35,559 --> 00:04:37,857 because the technology was nowhere near good enough 69 00:04:37,928 --> 00:04:41,455 to make a great white shark, and I knew you couldn't catch and train one. 70 00:04:41,548 --> 00:04:45,314 So I had no sense that this was going to be a success 71 00:04:45,402 --> 00:04:49,202 beyond just being published, until the movie had been open for a while 72 00:04:49,272 --> 00:04:52,207 and the paperback was selling millions of copies. 73 00:04:52,275 --> 00:04:54,721 And even then, who would've guessed 74 00:04:54,828 --> 00:04:58,310 that down the road it would have had any currency? 75 00:04:58,415 --> 00:04:59,826 I wouldn't have. 76 00:05:01,001 --> 00:05:03,845 Making Jaws, still looking back 30 years ago, 77 00:05:03,937 --> 00:05:05,701 was the toughest film making production 78 00:05:05,806 --> 00:05:07,490 experience I've ever encountered. 79 00:05:07,574 --> 00:05:11,488 Nothing's ever come close to the production difficulties 80 00:05:11,578 --> 00:05:14,639 of shooting an actual special effects movie, 81 00:05:14,748 --> 00:05:17,592 not a digital effects movie, that was many, many years later, 82 00:05:17,667 --> 00:05:19,544 but a mechanical effects movie, 83 00:05:19,653 --> 00:05:21,917 not in a tank somewhere in Malta 84 00:05:22,022 --> 00:05:24,241 or some safe tank somewhere in Florida, 85 00:05:24,307 --> 00:05:26,503 but in the actual Atlantic Ocean. 86 00:05:26,593 --> 00:05:29,392 We must've been complete idiots 87 00:05:29,496 --> 00:05:32,238 to have even expected to have an easy ride 88 00:05:32,315 --> 00:05:34,500 in the middle of the ocean making a movie. 89 00:05:34,601 --> 00:05:35,864 The in gathering 90 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,133 of all the mystical tribes 91 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,939 and shamans and crazy experts that floated in 92 00:05:45,045 --> 00:05:48,356 under the banner of Universal to make this movie 93 00:05:48,431 --> 00:05:52,777 had overlooked that it was the first film ever really shot on the ocean. 94 00:05:53,703 --> 00:05:55,728 They hadn't really known that before. 95 00:05:55,856 --> 00:05:58,473 The approach that Spielberg had then, 96 00:05:58,542 --> 00:05:59,907 remember that he was fresh then, 97 00:05:59,993 --> 00:06:01,791 he was new and young, 98 00:06:01,895 --> 00:06:05,160 and he insisted that this movie be shot on the ocean, 99 00:06:05,265 --> 00:06:09,213 and that alone was an innovation, 100 00:06:09,286 --> 00:06:10,765 because Universal at the time 101 00:06:10,871 --> 00:06:14,648 would normally have gone to a back lake and shot on the lot, 102 00:06:14,724 --> 00:06:16,089 and he wouldn't let them. 103 00:06:16,192 --> 00:06:21,505 We all gained a tremendous respect for the sea, for nature, 104 00:06:21,615 --> 00:06:25,495 for currents and tides, for waves, 105 00:06:25,569 --> 00:06:29,403 for rain and sun and overexposure to both. 106 00:06:30,106 --> 00:06:33,656 We started shooting on the first of May, 107 00:06:33,743 --> 00:06:36,735 and we were supposed to shoot until June 28th. 108 00:06:38,782 --> 00:06:42,025 If you're really quiet, you could hear someone laughing. 109 00:06:42,786 --> 00:06:45,096 The movie went on for a total of seven months, 110 00:06:45,205 --> 00:06:46,934 something like that, almost a year. 111 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,418 If you figured when the first crew got there 112 00:06:49,492 --> 00:06:51,176 and the first special effects people, 113 00:06:51,278 --> 00:06:55,055 then the actors came and then it just went on and on and on. 114 00:06:55,131 --> 00:06:58,078 And we thought we were gonna be there for the rest of our lives. 115 00:06:58,168 --> 00:07:01,433 It's not the time it takes to take the take that takes the time, 116 00:07:01,504 --> 00:07:03,336 it's the time it takes between the takes 117 00:07:03,406 --> 00:07:05,135 that takes the time that takes the take. 118 00:07:05,609 --> 00:07:08,226 If you see, conditions have been so impossible 119 00:07:08,328 --> 00:07:11,093 that it's really hurt our schedule and 120 00:07:11,181 --> 00:07:15,015 put a general somber note behind the scenes 121 00:07:15,085 --> 00:07:18,180 on the production, 'cause we've been here 105 shooting days 122 00:07:18,254 --> 00:07:21,337 and we were only scheduled for something like 65 or 70. 123 00:07:22,425 --> 00:07:24,143 And they started the shoot 124 00:07:24,244 --> 00:07:27,339 without a cast, without a script and without a shark. 125 00:07:28,248 --> 00:07:31,730 And that was after May 1st. 126 00:07:32,168 --> 00:07:34,682 And we're going and we're shooting. 127 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:38,167 What are we shooting? I don't know, what are we doing? 128 00:07:40,910 --> 00:07:43,151 I know because he'll be so energetic, 129 00:07:43,263 --> 00:07:44,263 and he'll be screaming and yelling, 130 00:07:44,364 --> 00:07:46,480 "It's a great white, it's a great white. I knew it all along." 131 00:07:46,549 --> 00:07:47,549 And it's only… 132 00:07:47,634 --> 00:07:49,261 It's hard to imagine a world 133 00:07:49,369 --> 00:07:52,862 where Steven Spielberg isn't a household name. 134 00:07:52,973 --> 00:07:57,126 But in 1974, it was viewed by some as a roll of the dice 135 00:07:57,193 --> 00:08:00,242 to put the weight of such a mammoth project on the shoulders 136 00:08:00,347 --> 00:08:02,873 of a 27-year-old relative newcomer. 137 00:08:02,983 --> 00:08:05,509 A director, who had only just completed work 138 00:08:05,602 --> 00:08:07,661 on his first theatrical release, 139 00:08:07,754 --> 00:08:09,404 The Sugar land Express. 140 00:08:09,556 --> 00:08:13,186 I remember a reporter one time asking me, 141 00:08:13,293 --> 00:08:18,163 "Mr. Zanuck, are you trying to enhance this young director's career?" 142 00:08:18,248 --> 00:08:20,080 And I said, "No, just the opposite. 143 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:21,948 "I'm trying to enhance my career." 144 00:08:22,369 --> 00:08:26,784 Probably nobody else in the world knew at that time 145 00:08:26,856 --> 00:08:31,521 better than I, who was every day on The Sugar land Express, 146 00:08:31,795 --> 00:08:35,254 how good this guy was and how he could tell a story. 147 00:08:35,498 --> 00:08:39,583 Steven Spielberg story boarded the actual scenes 148 00:08:39,686 --> 00:08:40,801 and then shot them. 149 00:08:41,421 --> 00:08:43,901 And the studio production department 150 00:08:43,973 --> 00:08:46,487 wanted to know every storyboard there was. 151 00:08:46,710 --> 00:08:49,395 They didn't know every storyboard there was. 152 00:08:49,496 --> 00:08:52,193 We had a bunch of 'em that we never told 'em about 153 00:08:52,282 --> 00:08:54,501 that we would sneak and shoot. 154 00:08:54,651 --> 00:08:56,130 It was a guerrilla movie. 155 00:08:56,286 --> 00:09:00,086 I like to think of it as a big independent movie 156 00:09:00,356 --> 00:09:03,235 masquerading as a big studio movie. 157 00:09:04,561 --> 00:09:08,862 It was the film's title monster, a 12-ton hydraulic shark, 158 00:09:08,932 --> 00:09:11,560 that would become affectionately known as Bruce, 159 00:09:11,634 --> 00:09:14,786 that plagued Spielberg and the Jaws production team 160 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:18,347 with their most daunting set of complications. 161 00:09:18,525 --> 00:09:21,051 Once the idea was set that we're gonna build it, 162 00:09:21,161 --> 00:09:22,845 then we had to determine the size, 163 00:09:22,912 --> 00:09:26,530 and I was working off of a scale model 164 00:09:26,633 --> 00:09:29,364 of my research of a shark that was about 12 and a half feet, 165 00:09:29,469 --> 00:09:31,688 and so I just doubled it 166 00:09:31,755 --> 00:09:35,271 because I felt that as the sharks got bigger, 167 00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:38,276 they got girthier, and they weren't so attractive. 168 00:09:38,378 --> 00:09:42,292 So, I figured a 25-foot shark would be the proper size. 169 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:46,709 Don Chandler was a studio sculptor. 170 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:49,187 He started on the outside, 171 00:09:49,289 --> 00:09:51,917 a big clay model, we were gonna make a mold. 172 00:09:52,025 --> 00:09:56,770 And so we were making the skeleton out of Permali tubing, 173 00:09:56,863 --> 00:09:58,456 both things at once, 174 00:09:58,565 --> 00:10:03,196 and hoping that they would fit together perfectly, which they did. 175 00:10:03,303 --> 00:10:06,637 My part that they gave me, mostly, was the cosmetics of the thing 176 00:10:06,723 --> 00:10:08,839 and the skin and the looks of it and all that, 177 00:10:08,942 --> 00:10:13,402 and when something mechanical would break in the shark, 178 00:10:13,513 --> 00:10:16,790 the shark's head would turn over, and of course it would rip 179 00:10:16,883 --> 00:10:19,534 and then they would bring it back to me and say, "Fix it." 180 00:10:19,602 --> 00:10:22,003 Then we'd have to patch the whole shark. 181 00:10:23,156 --> 00:10:26,126 Veteran effects supervisor, Bob Mattey, 182 00:10:26,226 --> 00:10:28,388 who had created the famous squid 183 00:10:28,495 --> 00:10:30,589 from Disney's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, 184 00:10:30,697 --> 00:10:33,906 was mastermind of the shark's mechanical workings. 185 00:10:33,983 --> 00:10:35,576 You got the men down there with the camera 186 00:10:35,652 --> 00:10:37,211 over by the end down by the fin. I'm not sure. 187 00:10:37,287 --> 00:10:40,700 Bob Mattey, my mentor, was the greatest guy in the world. 188 00:10:40,807 --> 00:10:43,504 He loved… I mean, he loved what he did. 189 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:47,092 I just fell in right behind Bob. He was like my hero. 190 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,191 There was never ever a down day. 191 00:10:49,282 --> 00:10:51,125 I mean, he was pretty much tireless. 192 00:10:51,201 --> 00:10:54,182 And he always looked at the up side. 193 00:10:54,370 --> 00:10:58,250 It was a good thing, too, as Mattey and his team promptly discovered 194 00:10:58,358 --> 00:11:00,622 that Jaws would produce technical challenges 195 00:11:00,727 --> 00:11:04,686 unlike any movie previously attempted by Hollywood. 196 00:11:04,781 --> 00:11:08,615 The condition of the shark was the ultimate story, 197 00:11:08,685 --> 00:11:11,154 that if the shark didn't work, what do you do? 198 00:11:11,221 --> 00:11:16,705 When your lead actor, which is this 12 ton marvel, is recalcitrant. 199 00:11:16,793 --> 00:11:21,208 Well, like any recalcitrant actor, you shoot around him or her. 200 00:11:22,182 --> 00:11:23,957 Not that a recalcitrant shark 201 00:11:24,033 --> 00:11:27,162 was always to blame for setbacks during the shoot. 202 00:11:27,237 --> 00:11:31,287 For a Hollywood film crew with little or no maritime experience, 203 00:11:31,391 --> 00:11:34,656 finding their sea legs didn't always come easily. 204 00:11:38,932 --> 00:11:42,414 It didn't take long for one thing to become perfectly clear. 205 00:11:42,669 --> 00:11:46,401 Making Jaws, whether by land or sea or foam, 206 00:11:46,506 --> 00:11:48,497 would be no day at the beach. 207 00:11:48,691 --> 00:11:51,626 We were starting to shoot all of the land scenes 208 00:11:51,694 --> 00:11:53,571 and running out of them very quickly. 209 00:11:54,163 --> 00:11:59,784 And Carl Gottlieb and Roy, David and Dick, producers, 210 00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:03,686 Steven, myself and Verna Fields and her son, 211 00:12:03,790 --> 00:12:07,590 would meet every day at Steven's bungalow 212 00:12:07,694 --> 00:12:12,541 and try to make sense of the next day's work or the days after. 213 00:12:14,384 --> 00:12:17,843 With no shark to shoot and an ever inflating budget, 214 00:12:17,921 --> 00:12:21,073 they made the very most of these meetings. 215 00:12:21,241 --> 00:12:24,233 The logistical setbacks allowed Spielberg and his actors 216 00:12:24,344 --> 00:12:29,339 to become a little repertory company, free to invent and improvise. 217 00:12:29,449 --> 00:12:32,885 The thing I remember most is, Steven, obviously, 218 00:12:32,986 --> 00:12:36,081 allowing the actors to ad lib, because a lot of this was ad lib. 219 00:12:36,189 --> 00:12:38,624 The, "You wanna get drunk and fool around?" The "coffee." 220 00:12:38,725 --> 00:12:43,993 I mean, all these… "Dead doll's eyes," that's my favorite. 221 00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:47,032 I think that's one of the things that was so extraordinary. 222 00:12:48,151 --> 00:12:51,086 The scene with the little boy at the table, 223 00:12:51,154 --> 00:12:53,998 after Roy's had a particularly hard day, 224 00:12:54,107 --> 00:12:56,201 we were in between shots 225 00:12:56,309 --> 00:12:59,643 and I was like this at the table, 226 00:12:59,746 --> 00:13:01,214 and then that little kid was like this. 227 00:13:01,314 --> 00:13:05,626 Just started with our hands underneath our chin. 228 00:13:05,702 --> 00:13:07,966 Then he'd do this and I'd do that. 229 00:13:08,054 --> 00:13:10,580 Then I went… And he went… 230 00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:14,119 And he made a monster face and I kind of went like that… 231 00:13:16,329 --> 00:13:18,764 And I went out to the kitchen in the house and I said to Steven, 232 00:13:18,865 --> 00:13:22,017 "Come here. Come here. Watch this." 233 00:13:22,085 --> 00:13:24,201 And I went through all the motions 234 00:13:24,304 --> 00:13:26,989 and the little guy copied right after me. 235 00:13:27,073 --> 00:13:30,555 He said, "Okay," and he brought the camera in and we did that scene. 236 00:13:31,044 --> 00:13:32,728 Hello? Get out of here. 237 00:13:34,097 --> 00:13:36,407 With the summer season fully upon them, 238 00:13:36,516 --> 00:13:40,419 frustration began to mount amidst the already exhausted crew 239 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,320 as discouraging reports of the film's malfunctioning antagonist 240 00:13:44,424 --> 00:13:46,791 continued to spread across the island. 241 00:13:47,527 --> 00:13:50,474 It's not the first movie with the radio mics, 242 00:13:50,546 --> 00:13:52,378 it was the first one that I was aware of 243 00:13:52,632 --> 00:13:55,533 that had all these radio mics all over the island. 244 00:13:55,902 --> 00:13:59,099 So every day, you could hear this. 245 00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:01,808 The shark is not working. 246 00:14:01,908 --> 00:14:04,684 Repeat. The shark is not working. 247 00:14:04,761 --> 00:14:07,822 Repeat. The shark… Not working. 248 00:14:08,915 --> 00:14:11,077 And that was the constant refrain, 249 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:13,061 because every time they tried to test the shark, 250 00:14:13,136 --> 00:14:14,513 it would come up like… 251 00:14:17,724 --> 00:14:19,249 Or its eye would fall out. 252 00:14:19,359 --> 00:14:22,772 I have a saying in films that 253 00:14:22,845 --> 00:14:24,722 film companies import their problems, 254 00:14:24,831 --> 00:14:26,663 they don't find them where they go. 255 00:14:26,766 --> 00:14:31,044 And in our case, we imported our problem and that was the shark, 256 00:14:31,304 --> 00:14:36,367 and we didn't have enough testing time on Bob Mattey's behalf. 257 00:14:36,476 --> 00:14:38,570 If we'd given him the 15 weeks that it took 258 00:14:38,678 --> 00:14:40,726 to work the bugs out of the shark, 259 00:14:40,797 --> 00:14:42,891 it would've worked on cue. 260 00:14:42,965 --> 00:14:46,674 We were pioneers. That's the best word I can think of, 261 00:14:46,853 --> 00:14:48,947 because nobody had ever taken on 262 00:14:49,055 --> 00:14:51,114 the Atlantic Ocean in small boats. 263 00:14:51,391 --> 00:14:54,122 No one had ever worked with a mechanical shark 264 00:14:54,227 --> 00:14:56,878 of the sophistication of ours. 265 00:14:57,163 --> 00:15:00,758 We struggled like mad, but the end justified the means. 266 00:15:00,917 --> 00:15:02,658 Then one day, you heard this… 267 00:15:02,769 --> 00:15:06,114 The shark is working. Repeat, the shark is working. 268 00:15:06,189 --> 00:15:08,214 Repeat, the shark… 269 00:15:08,291 --> 00:15:11,226 What you see in the finished picture 270 00:15:11,294 --> 00:15:16,664 is practically every frame of usable footage of the shark. 271 00:15:20,369 --> 00:15:21,552 And down. 272 00:15:24,207 --> 00:15:25,254 Suits and all. 273 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:29,328 One more time. Shark comes up, 274 00:15:29,429 --> 00:15:31,579 bites at the masts, 275 00:15:31,647 --> 00:15:34,480 snaps two, three times, shaking their head, 276 00:15:34,567 --> 00:15:36,114 but always working its way into the masts. 277 00:15:36,202 --> 00:15:39,945 Okay, start it. Okay, Roy? Action. 278 00:15:43,226 --> 00:15:44,534 Bring it in. Bring it in. 279 00:15:46,479 --> 00:15:48,072 And the last shot, before we all went back 280 00:15:48,181 --> 00:15:51,958 to Long Beach for another month of shooting in California, 281 00:15:52,034 --> 00:15:54,651 was going to be the shot of the shark blowing up. 282 00:15:57,707 --> 00:16:00,722 We were rigging the shark to blow up and blow scrib 283 00:16:00,827 --> 00:16:04,821 and all kinds of stuff up into the air, and they were loading it. 284 00:16:04,931 --> 00:16:07,559 And finally, the sun went down and I'm shooting high speed 285 00:16:07,667 --> 00:16:11,570 and I said, "Steven, they're not ready and I can't shoot high speed." 286 00:16:12,522 --> 00:16:15,287 Steven said, "You shoot it in the morning." 287 00:16:15,358 --> 00:16:17,736 Steven went to the airport, got onto the airplane, 288 00:16:17,844 --> 00:16:20,996 he was already packed, and left the island. He was ready to go. 289 00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:23,305 I said, "Goodbye! I'm going back to L.A." 290 00:16:23,416 --> 00:16:26,158 And I got into a motorboat, sped back to the mainland. 291 00:16:26,586 --> 00:16:30,170 Steven and I were on a flight back to L-A. 292 00:16:30,256 --> 00:16:34,318 And I said, "So, who's… How was the last shot?" 293 00:16:35,795 --> 00:16:37,638 You know, they blow up the… 294 00:16:37,713 --> 00:16:40,648 He saw, "They're doing it right now." 295 00:16:42,168 --> 00:16:45,012 I said, "They're doing it right now, why aren't you there?" 296 00:16:45,087 --> 00:16:47,181 He goes… 297 00:16:50,293 --> 00:16:52,762 And I said, "Steven?" 298 00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:56,048 He said something like… He got word, 299 00:16:56,132 --> 00:16:57,440 he knew that they were gonna throw him in. 300 00:16:57,550 --> 00:17:00,451 So, he decided to just skip out and not do the last shot. 301 00:17:01,137 --> 00:17:04,300 Not do the last blowing up shot, yeah, not do that one, 302 00:17:04,407 --> 00:17:06,307 which became, by the way, a tradition of Steven's. 303 00:17:06,409 --> 00:17:08,787 He never would do the last shot of his movies, 304 00:17:08,895 --> 00:17:11,694 because he thought the crew was always gonna do something. 305 00:17:11,781 --> 00:17:13,772 And he probably was right. 306 00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:17,009 Had I been on his crew, I would've. 307 00:17:17,853 --> 00:17:23,053 But it's become a tradition that Steven never shoots his last shot. 308 00:17:24,060 --> 00:17:28,110 One day, I'm gonna use this information. 309 00:17:37,974 --> 00:17:40,068 With the production of the film completed 310 00:17:40,142 --> 00:17:43,021 and Benchley's book already a raging success, 311 00:17:43,129 --> 00:17:45,393 the makers of Jaws braced themselves, 312 00:17:45,698 --> 00:17:46,915 hoping the fruit of their labor 313 00:17:46,983 --> 00:17:50,294 would live up to the reputation of the novel that inspired it. 314 00:17:51,087 --> 00:17:53,738 Little did they realize that their fish story 315 00:17:53,823 --> 00:17:56,451 was about to change the face of Hollywood. 316 00:17:58,427 --> 00:18:01,089 I couldn't really see beyond 317 00:18:01,163 --> 00:18:03,677 all of the screw ups that were apparent to me 318 00:18:03,783 --> 00:18:06,263 and were more apparent than anything else. 319 00:18:06,369 --> 00:18:09,578 And so in my ignorance, which is pure ignorance, 320 00:18:10,323 --> 00:18:12,906 I was saying, "This is gonna be a disaster." 321 00:18:13,542 --> 00:18:15,488 And then we made this movie that 322 00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:19,008 crashed into people like a speeding truck. 323 00:18:24,337 --> 00:18:26,954 The book had become a best seller 324 00:18:27,023 --> 00:18:28,821 while we were shooting the picture. 325 00:18:29,091 --> 00:18:34,029 But still, no one had any thought or even dared to think 326 00:18:34,096 --> 00:18:36,337 that it would become what it became. 327 00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:40,067 Part of it is that, it was over-ambitious for the budget. 328 00:18:40,136 --> 00:18:45,154 The technology was not there, that they had to use parts of their brain 329 00:18:45,241 --> 00:18:47,084 that you don't normally have to 330 00:18:47,193 --> 00:18:48,991 unless you're in desperate mode, 331 00:18:49,095 --> 00:18:51,439 and when an artist is pushed like that, 332 00:18:51,514 --> 00:18:53,824 amazing, one-of-a-kind things happen, 333 00:18:53,933 --> 00:18:55,833 and that's what happened in Jaws. 334 00:18:55,935 --> 00:19:00,998 It was just an extraordinary, perfect creative storm. 335 00:19:01,257 --> 00:19:03,419 Who knew? Who knew? 336 00:19:03,492 --> 00:19:08,009 But you know, it's like all of these phenomenons, 337 00:19:08,114 --> 00:19:09,855 they just happen. 338 00:19:10,016 --> 00:19:12,383 If you planned it, it would never be a phenomenon. 339 00:19:14,804 --> 00:19:17,023 The film's groundbreaking ad campaign 340 00:19:17,123 --> 00:19:20,388 was highly instrumental in its initial box office success. 341 00:19:20,493 --> 00:19:22,222 I think Jaws affected film making in a lot of ways. 342 00:19:22,328 --> 00:19:24,376 That's when they first started using television 343 00:19:24,447 --> 00:19:25,915 to really advertise movies. 344 00:19:25,981 --> 00:19:28,962 So, it made this huge opening, and everybody went out to see it. 345 00:19:29,068 --> 00:19:32,117 The anticipation was unbelievable. Unbelievable. 346 00:19:32,188 --> 00:19:34,714 No one had ever anticipated a movie 347 00:19:34,824 --> 00:19:36,019 much like that that I remember. 348 00:19:36,092 --> 00:19:39,505 I mean, it really did create the sensation around the planet of, 349 00:19:39,612 --> 00:19:41,387 "All right, here it comes." 350 00:19:41,464 --> 00:19:43,683 There is a creature alive today 351 00:19:44,784 --> 00:19:47,993 who has survived millions of years of evolution… 352 00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:51,934 Underscoring the TV spots and theatrical trailers for Jaws 353 00:19:52,007 --> 00:19:54,624 was the familiar, but ominous voice talent 354 00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:58,209 of character actor and voice artist, Percy Rodrigues. 355 00:19:58,848 --> 00:20:04,434 They had an idea of doing a very high, horrifying delivery, 356 00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:06,067 which I disagreed with. 357 00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:09,371 And we discussed it. 358 00:20:09,492 --> 00:20:15,431 And finally, they came around to the idea that I had in mind, 359 00:20:15,498 --> 00:20:21,551 that we would do it at a more level, devastating presentation, 360 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:25,180 rather than trying to ride over 361 00:20:25,291 --> 00:20:29,034 this terrifying visual that they had. 362 00:20:29,311 --> 00:20:33,088 I felt that I should go underneath it and let the visual sell. 363 00:20:33,866 --> 00:20:36,949 It is as if God created the devil 364 00:20:37,953 --> 00:20:40,354 and gave him jaws. 365 00:20:41,741 --> 00:20:45,086 The level of advertising was very high-pitched, 366 00:20:45,161 --> 00:20:48,995 and afterwards, they had people afraid to go in the water for years. 367 00:20:49,949 --> 00:20:54,534 And I like to think that I contributed to that fear. 368 00:20:55,905 --> 00:20:58,749 See it before you go swimming. 369 00:20:59,175 --> 00:21:02,611 Everyone who grew up around that period knows the voice. 370 00:21:02,711 --> 00:21:07,012 He was the gateway for a lot of people into the Jaws universe. 371 00:21:07,082 --> 00:21:11,383 He was like the weed to what would become the crack of Jaws. 372 00:21:11,454 --> 00:21:14,719 It's just like you had to get through Percy and Percy's dulcet tones 373 00:21:14,907 --> 00:21:18,559 that drew you into that movie and then got you hooked in a big, bad way. 374 00:21:20,396 --> 00:21:22,080 Once Jaws premiered, 375 00:21:22,181 --> 00:21:25,128 it demonstrated just how hooked moviegoers were 376 00:21:25,201 --> 00:21:28,193 and marked a decisive turning point at the box office. 377 00:21:28,304 --> 00:21:30,568 The buzz generated by advanced screenings 378 00:21:30,639 --> 00:21:33,301 demanded that it become the first movie ever 379 00:21:33,375 --> 00:21:36,003 to be released in over 400 theaters. 380 00:21:36,745 --> 00:21:38,770 And it could've been even more. 381 00:21:38,848 --> 00:21:41,613 When the screening in Long Beach, California took place, 382 00:21:41,684 --> 00:21:45,245 Lew Wasserman, the chairman of the board of Universal, 383 00:21:45,321 --> 00:21:48,655 asked Hy Martin, who was the head of distribution, 384 00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:52,269 to cut back on the number of theaters. 385 00:21:52,378 --> 00:21:56,008 Hy said, "We've set a record. We've got 600 theaters. 386 00:21:56,115 --> 00:21:58,800 "Ever since the Dallas preview, 387 00:21:58,868 --> 00:22:01,496 "I cannot stop the phone from ringing." 388 00:22:01,704 --> 00:22:02,762 And Lew said, 389 00:22:02,872 --> 00:22:04,237 "Cut it in half." 390 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,670 And everybody was kind of stunned, "Cut it in half? Why?" 391 00:22:09,028 --> 00:22:12,658 He said, "I want people in Palm Springs, California 392 00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:15,507 "to have to come to Los Angeles to see the movie." 393 00:22:15,601 --> 00:22:18,514 I don't think we thought that we were releasing 394 00:22:18,621 --> 00:22:20,715 an "event movie." 395 00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:22,769 We thought we had this very successful movie, 396 00:22:22,875 --> 00:22:25,890 we thought they should be waiting to see it. 397 00:22:25,995 --> 00:22:29,579 My colleague, Lew Wasserman, always thought that the best advertising 398 00:22:29,682 --> 00:22:31,161 was people standing in line. 399 00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:35,893 Lew said, "I wanted this to be something that you couldn't get into." 400 00:22:36,071 --> 00:22:38,688 He wasn't interested in just taking the weekend. 401 00:22:38,791 --> 00:22:42,386 He wanted to take the summer, and we took the summer. 402 00:22:42,478 --> 00:22:45,129 When you opened in 400 theaters, it was different. 403 00:22:45,231 --> 00:22:48,314 You could play all summer, and if you looked at the grosses, 404 00:22:48,384 --> 00:22:50,182 the grosses were constant. 405 00:22:50,553 --> 00:22:55,753 Smoking lounge is sold out, seats downstairs in the first seven rows only. 406 00:22:55,824 --> 00:22:58,293 When the movie was out for weeks and months, 407 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:00,237 I would still be going to the movies. 408 00:23:00,346 --> 00:23:03,031 Not to see a new movie, but to see Jaws again. 409 00:23:03,098 --> 00:23:07,399 And, "One for Jaws, " and he'd look at me like, "Again?" 410 00:23:07,503 --> 00:23:09,028 It's like, "Dude, just give me the ticket." 411 00:23:09,505 --> 00:23:13,191 They began to see that the film could become an event 412 00:23:13,292 --> 00:23:15,454 and a marketing phenomenon. 413 00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:18,337 Of course, nowadays, the marketing of a film 414 00:23:18,414 --> 00:23:20,291 is more important than the film itself. 415 00:23:20,482 --> 00:23:24,851 And I think we can attribute a lot of that to the success of Jaws. 416 00:23:25,054 --> 00:23:27,216 It happened to work on a very mainstream level 417 00:23:27,323 --> 00:23:28,734 and a mass audience level, 418 00:23:28,841 --> 00:23:30,718 but the movie itself 419 00:23:30,793 --> 00:23:33,444 was so incredibly solid and beyond solid, 420 00:23:33,529 --> 00:23:35,748 just exceptional from end to end, 421 00:23:35,948 --> 00:23:38,792 that when people throw together their summer movies 422 00:23:38,867 --> 00:23:41,393 and the eye candy stuff, they just tend to forget that 423 00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:43,972 that movie was a lot more than just eye candy. 424 00:23:44,406 --> 00:23:47,023 Although it is credited with having started 425 00:23:47,126 --> 00:23:49,709 the syndrome of summer blockbusters, 426 00:23:49,778 --> 00:23:53,225 and mindless movies and all that stuff, 427 00:23:53,332 --> 00:23:57,246 the fact is that Jaws, and I think many critics will agree, 428 00:23:57,453 --> 00:24:01,981 was a fine movie of that genre, which was very rare. 429 00:24:22,428 --> 00:24:25,841 Given its monstrous success and critical acclaim, 430 00:24:26,015 --> 00:24:28,256 Jaws was roundly expected to receive 431 00:24:28,367 --> 00:24:30,995 the lion's share of Oscar nominations for that year, 432 00:24:31,737 --> 00:24:34,479 including Best Director for Steven Spielberg. 433 00:24:35,024 --> 00:24:38,824 But unfortunately, those high expectations came up short. 434 00:24:39,712 --> 00:24:42,864 Oh, I didn't get it. I didn't get it. 435 00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:47,297 I wasn't nominated. I got beaten out by Fellini. 436 00:24:48,404 --> 00:24:51,032 Jaws did get the nomination for Best Picture. 437 00:24:51,306 --> 00:24:52,455 Jaws. 438 00:24:54,943 --> 00:24:56,877 Well, it's about time. 439 00:24:56,945 --> 00:24:58,674 But it was in light of this 440 00:24:58,764 --> 00:25:01,244 that some in the industry thought it scandalous 441 00:25:01,316 --> 00:25:03,842 that Steven would be overlooked for Best Director. 442 00:25:03,952 --> 00:25:06,296 Who made the picture? Somebody's mother? 443 00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:07,486 The director. 444 00:25:07,589 --> 00:25:08,636 This man made Jaws. 445 00:25:08,741 --> 00:25:11,085 Are you kidding? Who's kidding who around here? 446 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,208 It's the biggest disappointment for me, the whole Oscars. 447 00:25:13,312 --> 00:25:17,271 I thought Steven did a brilliant job directing Jaws, 448 00:25:17,383 --> 00:25:19,215 and I have no idea what happened. 449 00:25:19,318 --> 00:25:21,537 It's the one thing that I cannot comprehend yet 450 00:25:21,603 --> 00:25:25,062 in my head, how a best picture can be nominated, 451 00:25:25,157 --> 00:25:28,366 and yet the director, who is basically responsible for it, 452 00:25:28,444 --> 00:25:30,173 does not get the nomination. 453 00:25:30,512 --> 00:25:33,743 But for the 27-year-old wunderkind director, 454 00:25:33,816 --> 00:25:35,750 there was no choice but to take his lumps. 455 00:25:35,818 --> 00:25:37,377 I'm suffering enough. All right. 456 00:25:37,453 --> 00:25:38,818 We're suffering with you. I'm suffering. 457 00:25:38,887 --> 00:25:40,252 We're suffering with you. Cancel my day. 458 00:25:40,355 --> 00:25:41,355 Right, we're getting to it… 459 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,922 Although Jaws did not receive the Oscar for Best Picture, 460 00:25:44,993 --> 00:25:48,657 it did bring home awards for its remaining three nominations. 461 00:25:48,731 --> 00:25:53,441 Best Sound, Best Editing and Best Musical Score. 462 00:25:55,003 --> 00:25:56,619 Throughout the rest of the year, 463 00:25:56,722 --> 00:26:00,033 Jaws continued to reel in numerous other industry awards, 464 00:26:00,109 --> 00:26:03,056 even as the record books were being re-written. 465 00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:09,167 In hindsight, one wonders if the Academy would rethink 466 00:26:09,268 --> 00:26:12,260 overlooking Spielberg's masterful work on Jaws, 467 00:26:12,371 --> 00:26:15,022 if they knew then what they certainly know now. 468 00:26:20,913 --> 00:26:24,816 Of course, a much decorated career still lay ahead for Steven. 469 00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:28,220 A now legendary career that encompasses, perhaps, 470 00:26:28,303 --> 00:26:30,567 the most popular and diverse body of work 471 00:26:30,672 --> 00:26:33,289 ever created by an individual director, 472 00:26:33,392 --> 00:26:36,339 making Steven Spielberg one of the most influential figures 473 00:26:36,411 --> 00:26:38,027 in the entire film industry. 474 00:26:39,348 --> 00:26:42,227 And it was all jump-started by Jaws. 475 00:26:49,475 --> 00:26:53,878 Audience fascination with Jaws was by no means limited to the U. S. 476 00:26:54,263 --> 00:26:56,163 Shortly after its domestic release, 477 00:26:56,248 --> 00:26:59,331 Jaws swam its way into theaters across the globe. 478 00:26:59,535 --> 00:27:01,697 And moviegoers couldn't get enough. 479 00:27:01,970 --> 00:27:03,961 The biggest thing I remember about Jaws 480 00:27:04,072 --> 00:27:07,121 is traveling around the world, promoting it. 481 00:27:07,810 --> 00:27:14,159 And whether it was in South Africa or Australia or Latin America, 482 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:18,066 every culture in the world embraced Jaws. 483 00:27:20,439 --> 00:27:23,648 Peter Benchley's book, which was the start of it all, 484 00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:25,352 was a sensation. 485 00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:29,658 Somehow the idea of this creature attacking mankind 486 00:27:29,882 --> 00:27:31,509 caught on everywhere. 487 00:27:33,152 --> 00:27:34,836 I've been to many places in the world, 488 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,038 and Jaws has reached almost every place I've ever been. 489 00:27:38,106 --> 00:27:40,598 At first, I thought maybe it'll do okay in cities 490 00:27:40,676 --> 00:27:43,088 near great bodies of water. 491 00:27:43,195 --> 00:27:44,970 But it turned out some of our best business 492 00:27:45,047 --> 00:27:46,776 were in tremendous desert countries. 493 00:27:46,949 --> 00:27:50,158 I think the reason it went around the world so quickly was that 494 00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:51,896 you don't even need dialogue. 495 00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:54,689 I mean, you just see the situation there, 496 00:27:54,756 --> 00:28:00,638 and your own primal fear about something you can't see into 497 00:28:01,230 --> 00:28:03,665 is enough to hold your interest in that movie. 498 00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:05,862 It's a universal movie. 499 00:28:05,951 --> 00:28:10,320 Not just Universal Studios, but it really has a global impact. 500 00:28:10,656 --> 00:28:12,875 I really think it works like a silent movie. 501 00:28:13,192 --> 00:28:15,126 You're responding to the visuals 502 00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:17,127 instinctively and in a visceral way. 503 00:28:19,565 --> 00:28:24,776 The coincidence of that, plus Steven's innate talent as a filmmaker, 504 00:28:25,053 --> 00:28:26,987 made a film that will live. 505 00:28:27,055 --> 00:28:28,500 It has to live. 506 00:28:28,774 --> 00:28:31,573 It's not going away anywhere. 507 00:28:31,677 --> 00:28:34,305 There's no culture on Earth that does not have that film and show it. 508 00:28:35,681 --> 00:28:39,584 It was shown in 40 countries in 17 different languages. 509 00:28:40,435 --> 00:28:45,589 If you forgot what terror is like, the original Jaws is back. 510 00:28:48,427 --> 00:28:50,737 And then there was the merchandising blitz. 511 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,523 Almost overnight, Jaws became a cottage industry. 512 00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:57,635 And suddenly sharks meant big business. 513 00:28:59,721 --> 00:29:05,387 When we realized what we had, Merchandising was licking their lips, 514 00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:09,488 and it just was such an easy one to merchandise. 515 00:29:09,765 --> 00:29:13,668 It started obviously with what everybody does with the T-shirts, 516 00:29:13,735 --> 00:29:15,282 but it went from there. 517 00:29:15,387 --> 00:29:19,915 Everything kind of mushroomed with the release of the picture. 518 00:29:20,475 --> 00:29:23,251 I even had a toilet seat, 519 00:29:23,362 --> 00:29:27,048 that when you open it up, it was a big shark facing you. 520 00:29:27,115 --> 00:29:32,269 So, everything, lunch pails to barbeque sets… 521 00:29:32,371 --> 00:29:34,396 It was incredible, 522 00:29:34,573 --> 00:29:39,477 and one of the first big merchandising events 523 00:29:39,578 --> 00:29:42,479 to take place in connection with the movie. 524 00:29:43,532 --> 00:29:45,728 Though three decades have come and gone 525 00:29:45,801 --> 00:29:47,951 since the Jaws merchandising frenzy, 526 00:29:48,420 --> 00:29:52,903 for some voracious collectors, the summer of the shark never ends. 527 00:30:08,674 --> 00:30:09,937 In recent years, 528 00:30:10,042 --> 00:30:12,670 the picture's enduring popularity has seen 529 00:30:12,778 --> 00:30:15,406 a resurgence of Jaws-related paraphernalia, 530 00:30:15,931 --> 00:30:19,515 from children's toys, to high-end collectibles, 531 00:30:21,086 --> 00:30:22,144 to video games. 532 00:30:29,261 --> 00:30:32,162 Another milestone in the evolution of entertainment 533 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,432 was the commercialization of the making of Jaws. 534 00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:37,116 Though commonplace today, 535 00:30:37,185 --> 00:30:40,428 capitalizing on a picture's behind-the-scenes accounts 536 00:30:40,539 --> 00:30:43,588 was rarely, if ever, seen in the mid-'70s. 537 00:30:44,026 --> 00:30:45,585 I'd always been interested in movies 538 00:30:45,660 --> 00:30:49,369 as something more than just sitting there and passively observing them. 539 00:30:49,548 --> 00:30:53,712 The Jaws Log, by Carl Gottlieb, and Edith Blake's book 540 00:30:53,819 --> 00:30:55,253 called The Making of the Movie Jaws. 541 00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:59,973 Both of those were inspiration for making me interested in films. 542 00:31:00,042 --> 00:31:02,454 Jaws as a film to me 543 00:31:02,561 --> 00:31:05,303 is first of all, my favorite film. I watch it once a year. 544 00:31:05,564 --> 00:31:08,340 And when you examine the film in its finished state, 545 00:31:08,417 --> 00:31:10,408 and you look at the process of making the film, 546 00:31:10,502 --> 00:31:12,834 and you read Carl Gottlieb's Jaws Log, 547 00:31:12,938 --> 00:31:14,417 or you just read the other histories, 548 00:31:14,506 --> 00:31:16,622 or as I remember reading about it even as a kid, 549 00:31:16,842 --> 00:31:19,152 it's almost like film school in a movie. 550 00:31:19,261 --> 00:31:20,422 I remember in film school reading 551 00:31:20,512 --> 00:31:21,570 an interview with Steven Soderbergh, 552 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,728 who said that he was Jaws-obsessed, 553 00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:25,381 and that his favorite book was The Jaws Log 554 00:31:25,484 --> 00:31:27,009 and that he carried it with him everywhere. 555 00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:29,554 And I thought, "Okay, I'm on the right track." 556 00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:33,791 That book became my Bible, and I read that book over and over and over. 557 00:31:34,393 --> 00:31:37,237 In the beginning, when the book was first conceived, 558 00:31:37,496 --> 00:31:41,478 it was kind of a hasty afterthought to the marketing plan. 559 00:31:41,550 --> 00:31:44,497 The original intent was for there to be a three-parter. 560 00:31:44,653 --> 00:31:46,235 The book would be written 561 00:31:46,338 --> 00:31:49,399 from Steven Spielberg's point of view, he would contribute a third, 562 00:31:49,508 --> 00:31:51,875 from Peter Benchley's view, he would contribute a third, 563 00:31:51,977 --> 00:31:54,776 and Zanuck and Brown would contribute a third as producers. 564 00:31:55,263 --> 00:31:57,709 And as we got closer and closer to the release date, 565 00:31:57,816 --> 00:32:00,228 it became evident that nobody was gonna be able to write their third. 566 00:32:00,302 --> 00:32:02,145 I had already agreed with Steven 567 00:32:02,254 --> 00:32:06,418 to kind of ghostwrite or author his third of it from what I knew, 568 00:32:06,525 --> 00:32:08,766 'cause we had shared a house and I knew 569 00:32:08,844 --> 00:32:11,085 what Steven's perspective on the movie was. 570 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,380 So then nobody was available. 571 00:32:13,732 --> 00:32:15,894 Steven was immersed in post-production. 572 00:32:16,001 --> 00:32:18,470 Zanuck and Brown were onto something else. 573 00:32:18,637 --> 00:32:22,164 So they said to me at the end of March, 574 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:26,268 "Can you do a book by the end of May?" And with the folly of youth, 575 00:32:26,378 --> 00:32:28,745 I said, "Yeah, I can write a book that quickly." 576 00:32:28,847 --> 00:32:31,179 So I wrote the book in a very short time. 577 00:32:31,283 --> 00:32:32,717 Probably less than a month. 578 00:32:32,818 --> 00:32:35,810 And the original paperback got favorable reviews. 579 00:32:36,071 --> 00:32:37,903 And the word of mouth was terrific, 580 00:32:37,973 --> 00:32:39,714 and the book went through 17 printings 581 00:32:39,825 --> 00:32:41,600 and sold a couple of million copies. 582 00:32:43,411 --> 00:32:44,810 And then of course, many years later, 583 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,872 Laurent Bouzereau did his behind-the scenes documentary 584 00:32:47,949 --> 00:32:49,348 on the same subject matter. 585 00:32:49,985 --> 00:32:52,295 Universal came out with what they called the Signature series 586 00:32:52,404 --> 00:32:53,712 back in the LaserDisc days. 587 00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:58,937 And the Jaws box set that included the Laurent Bouzereau documentary 588 00:32:59,044 --> 00:33:02,014 was something that every Jaws fan just had to have. 589 00:33:02,097 --> 00:33:03,747 They went out and bought LaserDisc players 590 00:33:03,849 --> 00:33:05,465 just so they could have that documentary. 591 00:33:05,534 --> 00:33:09,562 When I got to the Jaws documentary for the LaserDisc, 592 00:33:09,638 --> 00:33:16,123 I felt that I'm gonna try to do a Bible or some kind of a reference 593 00:33:16,228 --> 00:33:19,664 to that particular movie. Because how many times 594 00:33:19,748 --> 00:33:22,911 do we get to sit across Steven Spielberg or Peter Benchley 595 00:33:22,984 --> 00:33:24,668 and the cast members, but you want to get 596 00:33:24,753 --> 00:33:26,403 all of their different perspectives. 597 00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,030 And I think for the true fans, 598 00:33:28,123 --> 00:33:29,955 you're just looking at those people 599 00:33:30,025 --> 00:33:31,754 as if they were talking to you. 600 00:33:32,727 --> 00:33:37,289 I had seen all those pictures of Brody's son in the arms of the stuntman, 601 00:33:37,449 --> 00:33:39,144 and I always wondered like, "That's not even in the movie." 602 00:33:39,251 --> 00:33:42,027 And yet that picture was used to promote the picture. 603 00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:46,618 And I was always wondering, "What is that sequence? What is that scene?" 604 00:33:46,725 --> 00:33:48,819 And finding the footage of that was amazing. 605 00:33:50,946 --> 00:33:55,474 Seeing that when the shark comes into the estuary, it's just a fin. 606 00:33:56,101 --> 00:33:57,296 I thought that was pretty amazing. 607 00:33:59,688 --> 00:34:02,271 Finding that footage of the building of the shark, 608 00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:05,685 doing all the tests, dry, 609 00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:08,227 and then getting the big surprise that it doesn't work in water, 610 00:34:08,313 --> 00:34:09,428 I mean, it was just amazing. 611 00:34:09,497 --> 00:34:15,163 I felt like I was doing what I had been sent on Earth to do. 612 00:34:15,287 --> 00:34:19,269 To discover all that stuff and to make sure it was preserved. 613 00:34:19,341 --> 00:34:21,753 Because a lot of it, I think that 614 00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:24,238 if there had not been DVDs today, 615 00:34:24,329 --> 00:34:27,139 I think a lot of that stuff would be totally lost. 616 00:34:29,784 --> 00:34:33,550 Always an important step in advancing public awareness of a movie, 617 00:34:33,622 --> 00:34:37,820 both during and after its theatrical run, is the film's poster design. 618 00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:40,251 And in the case of Jaws, 619 00:34:40,345 --> 00:34:44,407 few images have become more emblazoned on pop culture than this one. 620 00:34:45,684 --> 00:34:48,301 That image is iconic and was responsible 621 00:34:48,370 --> 00:34:51,783 for getting a lot of people into the theaters to see Jaws. 622 00:34:51,890 --> 00:34:54,473 What kid wouldn't wanna go see that movie? 623 00:34:54,542 --> 00:34:57,159 It's almost like a bullet before it hits somebody. 624 00:34:57,262 --> 00:34:59,492 And the fact that it leaves it all to your imagination 625 00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:02,693 is why the poster of Jaws did so well. 626 00:35:03,451 --> 00:35:10,073 It conveyed all the emotion that is aroused by the fear. 627 00:35:10,175 --> 00:35:13,270 And you just got it. The minute you look at that image, you got it. 628 00:35:14,663 --> 00:35:17,906 Jaws' poster is the Bible of how to do it. 629 00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:20,758 That's all you need to know. 630 00:35:20,835 --> 00:35:23,327 You don't need to know about the main characters and their arcs 631 00:35:23,405 --> 00:35:24,622 or anything like that. 632 00:35:24,723 --> 00:35:28,159 Big shark, pretty girl, bad situation. 633 00:35:28,243 --> 00:35:30,519 One of the things that happens when you do an iconic film 634 00:35:30,629 --> 00:35:33,724 is it becomes a touchstone for other artists and other comments. 635 00:35:34,215 --> 00:35:37,446 The Jaws artwork became an element 636 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:39,681 of political cartoons for years. 637 00:35:42,791 --> 00:35:44,691 In fact, the shark and swimmer 638 00:35:44,776 --> 00:35:46,619 were used to represent virtually 639 00:35:46,695 --> 00:35:48,493 every issue in the political spectrum. 640 00:36:02,977 --> 00:36:05,924 And it wasn't just politics getting in on the action. 641 00:36:06,031 --> 00:36:08,079 Over the years, even up to this day, 642 00:36:08,149 --> 00:36:10,834 the Jaws motif has served as fodder 643 00:36:10,919 --> 00:36:13,547 for a variety of more off-beat applications. 644 00:36:25,617 --> 00:36:28,416 But what today has become a pop culture icon, 645 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,046 actually had very humble beginnings. 646 00:36:32,157 --> 00:36:37,106 The art of the swimmer swimming above the great white shark 647 00:36:37,746 --> 00:36:40,477 originated on the cover of the paperback 648 00:36:40,548 --> 00:36:43,210 edition of Peter Benchley's novel, Jaws, 649 00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:44,695 published by Bantam Books, 650 00:36:44,803 --> 00:36:48,387 and Oscar Dystel, who was the chairman of the company, 651 00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:52,439 always regretted that he didn't put… He didn't sell it to us. 652 00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:54,694 He could've sold us the artwork. 653 00:36:54,763 --> 00:36:57,539 But he gave it to us as a publicity thing. 654 00:36:57,649 --> 00:37:00,118 So I kid him about it to this day. 655 00:37:01,603 --> 00:37:04,971 One name that is not as well known in the annals of Jaws history 656 00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:09,658 is Roger Kastel, the artist who created the legendary image. 657 00:37:10,128 --> 00:37:12,438 Kastel was a seasoned paperback 658 00:37:12,514 --> 00:37:14,812 and magazine illustrator working in New York 659 00:37:14,883 --> 00:37:17,784 whose skills were increasingly in demand at the time. 660 00:37:17,986 --> 00:37:21,354 And the assignment was simply one among many. 661 00:37:21,423 --> 00:37:25,883 Oscar Dystel said, "Have I got a great book for you! 662 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,873 "You'll love it. You can read it over the weekend." 663 00:37:28,963 --> 00:37:31,113 They felt the hardcover version 664 00:37:31,216 --> 00:37:33,275 wouldn't work on the paperback. 665 00:37:33,368 --> 00:37:37,532 I did a very rough sketch and they said, "That's great. 666 00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:42,691 "Just make the shark realistic and bigger. Make him very much bigger." 667 00:37:43,161 --> 00:37:48,372 I had gone to the Museum of Natural History, and I had my camera with me 668 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:52,550 and I said, "Do you have a shark exhibit in the building?" 669 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:58,386 And she said, "Yes, they do." But it was all down and they were refurbishing. 670 00:37:58,460 --> 00:38:00,588 They were cleaning them. 671 00:38:00,662 --> 00:38:05,941 All the sharks were laying on easels. 672 00:38:06,034 --> 00:38:11,666 They were plaster. And so, I had my camera with me. 673 00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:15,155 Well, I knew what position I wanted the shark in, 674 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:20,164 and this is the great white that they had laying on a easel being… 675 00:38:20,265 --> 00:38:24,930 I guess they were dusting it. And that's what I worked from. 676 00:38:25,954 --> 00:38:30,937 The girl was photographed in the studio in New York. 677 00:38:32,227 --> 00:38:36,494 She was a great model. I used her for a Good Housekeeping painting 678 00:38:36,581 --> 00:38:40,017 and asked if she would stay another half hour 679 00:38:40,118 --> 00:38:44,396 and just swim for this paperback. I told her it was Jaws. 680 00:38:44,973 --> 00:38:47,499 I don't think anyone knew what Jaws was then. 681 00:38:48,042 --> 00:38:50,955 But she was swimming on a stool. 682 00:38:51,763 --> 00:38:54,277 Last summer, I was painting in the studio 683 00:38:54,349 --> 00:38:56,829 and my grandson, Luke, came in. 684 00:38:56,935 --> 00:39:02,521 And he says, "Grandpa, did you ever do a Mona Lisa?"And he's seven. 685 00:39:02,891 --> 00:39:06,304 And that really threw me. And I thought and I said, 686 00:39:06,411 --> 00:39:09,255 "I don't think I've done the Mona Lisa, Luke." 687 00:39:09,330 --> 00:39:14,166 And he said, "Well, the shark will just have to be your Mona Lisa." 688 00:39:34,589 --> 00:39:35,589 I can't… 689 00:39:37,225 --> 00:39:39,319 Did I say it right? 690 00:39:44,983 --> 00:39:46,360 The theme song of Jaws. 691 00:39:46,451 --> 00:39:48,078 That's the first impression that comes to my mind. 692 00:39:48,152 --> 00:39:50,246 And it just sticks in there. You know what I mean? 693 00:39:54,676 --> 00:39:57,088 I think Jaws was the first film that I did 694 00:39:57,161 --> 00:39:58,993 where I was really crazy about the film. 695 00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:00,713 I thought it was a marvelous film. 696 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,725 I remember the first day I played, 697 00:40:03,801 --> 00:40:05,200 Steven said, "What do we do for the shark?" 698 00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:07,204 And I just played an octave E on the piano, 699 00:40:07,272 --> 00:40:09,115 and then E and an F and repeated them 700 00:40:09,207 --> 00:40:10,902 and accelerated them and so on. 701 00:40:10,992 --> 00:40:12,642 And he said something like, "You think that'll work." 702 00:40:12,727 --> 00:40:14,104 "You gotta be kidding. It's so simple." 703 00:40:14,178 --> 00:40:16,590 All he did was… 704 00:40:16,698 --> 00:40:18,109 And Steven said, "That's all?" 705 00:40:18,182 --> 00:40:20,173 And John said, "Yeah, that's it." 706 00:40:20,919 --> 00:40:22,751 Well, I think, John, who's prescient 707 00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:24,652 about all the movies he scores, 708 00:40:24,806 --> 00:40:28,015 he sees deeper than we do about our own work. 709 00:40:28,610 --> 00:40:31,853 And I think he saw something deeply primal about Jaws, 710 00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:36,140 and he decided that it needed a primal response. 711 00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:40,819 It needed a primal sound. Something that was atavistic. 712 00:40:40,922 --> 00:40:43,766 Something that was extremely basic. 713 00:40:43,841 --> 00:40:45,559 And something that was unforgettable 714 00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:49,563 and would be almost a kind of a siren 715 00:40:49,664 --> 00:40:51,883 to warn you that something was coming to get you. 716 00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:56,578 When you associate the image of that shark coming in for the kill, 717 00:40:56,788 --> 00:40:59,473 and you hear that John Williams score, 718 00:41:01,492 --> 00:41:04,723 It's that perfect storm again. 719 00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:07,527 It's the right image for the right music. 720 00:41:07,598 --> 00:41:10,226 It doesn't happen all the time. 721 00:41:10,902 --> 00:41:16,113 But, boy, when it does, you never forget it for generations, obviously. 722 00:41:18,543 --> 00:41:23,709 The Jaws theme was so provocative and symbolic of the shark 723 00:41:24,248 --> 00:41:27,343 that he saved us, really, because 724 00:41:27,435 --> 00:41:30,086 the many times that we didn't have the shark, 725 00:41:30,154 --> 00:41:35,251 all we had to do was point the camera out to sea and play his score 726 00:41:35,443 --> 00:41:36,820 and everybody screamed. 727 00:41:36,894 --> 00:41:39,443 And for half the film you don't see the shark. You don't have to. 728 00:41:39,731 --> 00:41:41,722 You hear that theme and it puts it, 729 00:41:41,816 --> 00:41:43,534 "Oh, my God, he's out there somewhere 730 00:41:43,634 --> 00:41:44,829 "and he's gonna get somebody." 731 00:41:44,902 --> 00:41:47,314 I just think it was the most brilliant couple of notes 732 00:41:47,422 --> 00:41:50,619 that he's ever written, because it's lived beyond the movie. 733 00:41:50,892 --> 00:41:52,371 And it's become the thing 734 00:41:52,460 --> 00:41:55,737 that kids do with each other when they're playing in the pool. 735 00:41:55,947 --> 00:41:58,575 You can always creep up on somebody and go… 736 00:41:58,649 --> 00:42:02,210 And in the post-Jaws world, it means something. 737 00:42:02,387 --> 00:42:05,971 In Australia, they use the shark theme 738 00:42:06,074 --> 00:42:09,806 as a warning sound on the beaches. 739 00:42:09,911 --> 00:42:11,754 I love that in the loudspeakers. 740 00:42:14,382 --> 00:42:19,479 "I'm outta here!" No one would stay in the water listening to that music. 741 00:42:19,570 --> 00:42:22,722 Every movie after that, whenever you saw any kind of a monster beast, 742 00:42:22,824 --> 00:42:25,771 especially sea stuff like a shark, octopus, whatever, 743 00:42:25,927 --> 00:42:27,975 it was like the pounding… 744 00:42:29,947 --> 00:42:31,494 Don't! 745 00:42:32,417 --> 00:42:33,417 Don't! 746 00:42:35,253 --> 00:42:36,516 That song gives me the creeps. 747 00:42:36,587 --> 00:42:38,772 What do you mean, it's our theme song. 748 00:42:38,873 --> 00:42:43,151 It's very flattering. You think, "Oh, great, whatever I've written 749 00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:47,642 "has made it to that level." That's one reaction that I think is natural. 750 00:42:47,749 --> 00:42:49,797 I'm always pleased about it. 751 00:42:49,884 --> 00:42:53,070 The fact that it gets up off the paper into the orchestra's hands, 752 00:42:53,154 --> 00:42:55,236 out through the microphone and around the world, 753 00:42:55,523 --> 00:42:58,015 back into my own living room, which is my own studio, 754 00:42:58,126 --> 00:43:00,743 where I'll be working sometimes years later, 755 00:43:00,812 --> 00:43:04,806 it's quite a miraculous electronic trip 756 00:43:04,899 --> 00:43:07,209 that composers in preceding centuries 757 00:43:07,285 --> 00:43:10,619 would never have had the pleasure of experiencing, 758 00:43:10,772 --> 00:43:14,333 so we're lucky that film and recorded music 759 00:43:14,442 --> 00:43:16,809 and so on has the reach that it does. 760 00:43:23,151 --> 00:43:25,142 While the digital effects revolution, 761 00:43:25,236 --> 00:43:27,204 which took hold in the early '90s, 762 00:43:27,405 --> 00:43:30,989 promised to offer filmmakers tremendous creative freedom, 763 00:43:31,058 --> 00:43:33,527 the legacy of Jaws reminds us that 764 00:43:33,594 --> 00:43:35,403 being unable to show everything you want 765 00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:37,571 really can be a blessing in disguise. 766 00:43:40,885 --> 00:43:44,571 We've complained about the shark not being able to perform. 767 00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:47,256 Because it couldn't. It was never ready. 768 00:43:47,341 --> 00:43:52,051 That was what saved us. That was the artistry of the film. 769 00:43:52,497 --> 00:43:56,525 If Jaws never existed, except in the year 2005, 770 00:43:56,801 --> 00:43:58,747 I would have had the digital tools 771 00:43:58,820 --> 00:44:01,767 to have much more of the shark in the movie. 772 00:44:01,873 --> 00:44:05,082 Therefore, I would have ruined much more of the movie. 773 00:44:05,343 --> 00:44:08,358 Had we been able to computerize the shark, 774 00:44:08,913 --> 00:44:12,360 a lot of the wonderful elements of the picture, like the barrels, 775 00:44:12,817 --> 00:44:14,342 would never have been thought of. 776 00:44:14,819 --> 00:44:19,131 That was an idea that came during the production 777 00:44:19,207 --> 00:44:21,687 and out of frustration of not having the shark, 778 00:44:21,776 --> 00:44:24,188 we didn't have anything else to shoot. 779 00:44:26,414 --> 00:44:30,044 In the very first scene, with the girl being pulled back and forth, 780 00:44:30,117 --> 00:44:34,532 the shark was supposed to be there in the picture that time. 781 00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:38,200 We only showed it later, because we didn't have it earlier. 782 00:44:42,213 --> 00:44:46,764 They began Jaws in the opening scene by not seeing the shark. 783 00:44:47,034 --> 00:44:50,595 And I think it was more terrifying. 784 00:44:50,805 --> 00:44:54,537 Not seeing something, I really believe, is more terrifying 785 00:44:54,609 --> 00:44:57,192 'cause visually, you're all right with it. 786 00:44:57,295 --> 00:44:59,923 But if your imagination runs wild, 787 00:45:00,398 --> 00:45:02,230 then it can be anything. 788 00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:11,875 Oh, God, help! 789 00:45:12,577 --> 00:45:15,046 I did that because the shark kept breaking down. 790 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,774 And today, a visual shark would not break down. 791 00:45:17,882 --> 00:45:20,476 There'd be some nice interactive water explosions 792 00:45:20,585 --> 00:45:22,633 to marry the digital shark with the actual water. 793 00:45:22,703 --> 00:45:25,832 That's all it would be. There would not have been a full-size shark. 794 00:45:26,173 --> 00:45:31,521 Or probably even any segment of the shark in a 2005 Jaws today. 795 00:45:31,629 --> 00:45:34,428 And therefore, the film would have been only half as effective. 796 00:45:34,532 --> 00:45:39,698 So I was saved by the breakdown in technology 30 years ago. 797 00:45:42,173 --> 00:45:44,221 I think if I'm correct about this, 798 00:45:44,292 --> 00:45:46,659 it was 55 minutes into the movie 799 00:45:46,727 --> 00:45:48,855 before you actually saw the shark. 800 00:45:54,201 --> 00:45:56,499 One of the things that makes the picture more believable 801 00:45:56,570 --> 00:45:59,915 is that you can't do many things with that shark. 802 00:46:00,574 --> 00:46:01,973 You have one shark that goes right, 803 00:46:02,043 --> 00:46:04,341 one that goes left, and one that goes straight ahead. 804 00:46:04,412 --> 00:46:06,779 Almost made it more believable. 805 00:46:06,998 --> 00:46:09,080 Because you couldn't do any fancy stuff with it. 806 00:46:09,150 --> 00:46:11,414 And I can't help but think that filmmakers today 807 00:46:11,485 --> 00:46:13,431 would wanna do a lot more with that shark. 808 00:46:13,521 --> 00:46:18,083 In today's movies, everybody's trying to top themselves, 809 00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:19,422 and they're trying to top others 810 00:46:19,493 --> 00:46:21,541 and they're just trying to do it bigger and better, 811 00:46:21,646 --> 00:46:24,422 and sometimes, bigger isn't better necessarily. 812 00:46:24,649 --> 00:46:26,276 Sometimes, bigger is too much. 813 00:46:26,384 --> 00:46:30,184 It's hard to create something new that surprises people. 814 00:46:30,288 --> 00:46:32,450 In this day and age, they've seen so much already. 815 00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:33,905 There's so many movies now. 816 00:46:33,975 --> 00:46:35,022 What's great about that, I think, 817 00:46:35,126 --> 00:46:36,924 the expectations for what a movie 818 00:46:37,028 --> 00:46:38,757 could be weren't what they are today. 819 00:46:38,863 --> 00:46:43,391 So when a great movie like that came out back then, it just floored people. 820 00:46:48,306 --> 00:46:52,459 I cannot tell you how many people have come to me and said, 821 00:46:52,526 --> 00:46:56,144 "Because of Jaws, I will not go in the water to this day." 822 00:46:56,514 --> 00:46:57,514 It is staggering. 823 00:46:57,932 --> 00:46:59,559 Come on in the water! 824 00:46:59,717 --> 00:47:01,458 Take it easy. 825 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,585 I mean, Jaws essentially did for swimming 826 00:47:03,688 --> 00:47:06,407 what the movie Psycho did for showering in motel rooms. 827 00:47:06,474 --> 00:47:08,420 The shower scene in Psycho, 828 00:47:08,526 --> 00:47:11,427 where women especially weren't taking showers, 829 00:47:11,629 --> 00:47:14,530 I didn't go in the ocean after Jaws. 830 00:47:14,632 --> 00:47:17,146 I was at the beach one day and a woman came over to me, 831 00:47:17,218 --> 00:47:20,381 and she had her little child in hand. 832 00:47:20,488 --> 00:47:22,820 He was about five years old, and he was crying. 833 00:47:23,290 --> 00:47:25,759 And she said, "Are you Steven Spielberg?" 834 00:47:25,826 --> 00:47:27,954 And I said, "Yes, I am." 835 00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:31,162 And she began screaming at me with a very thick New York accent. 836 00:47:31,232 --> 00:47:35,032 "You tell him, you tell him it's safe to go out there. 837 00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:37,065 "You tell him it's safe to go out there. 838 00:47:37,138 --> 00:47:39,038 "Look at him, look what you've done to him." 839 00:47:39,123 --> 00:47:42,036 And this kid was crying his eyes out. And I said, "What happened?" 840 00:47:42,126 --> 00:47:43,821 She said, "My husband showed him Jaws 841 00:47:43,928 --> 00:47:45,612 "and now look, he won't go into the water. 842 00:47:45,730 --> 00:47:48,097 "You tell him it's okay. You tell him it's all make-believe." 843 00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:51,817 And she gave me such a piece of her mind, I sat the boy down, 844 00:47:51,886 --> 00:47:53,718 I looked him in the eye, and I couldn't lie to him, 845 00:47:53,788 --> 00:47:55,005 it is dangerous out there. 846 00:47:55,106 --> 00:47:59,304 I couldn't just say to him, "Yes, go out there, go out beyond the waves." 847 00:47:59,593 --> 00:48:01,470 It's all psychological. 848 00:48:01,579 --> 00:48:05,425 You yell, "Barracuda!" and everybody says, "Huh? What?" 849 00:48:07,334 --> 00:48:09,211 You yell, "Shark!" 850 00:48:10,388 --> 00:48:13,517 We've got a panic on our hands on the Fourth of July. 851 00:48:24,602 --> 00:48:27,845 The structure of Jaws is just so perfect. 852 00:48:27,922 --> 00:48:30,016 It just breaks up into these beautiful acts. 853 00:48:30,091 --> 00:48:33,504 And it's like problem, finding the answer, 854 00:48:33,611 --> 00:48:36,888 and then the third act of, "We're gonna go get the shark." 855 00:48:37,081 --> 00:48:39,982 It's such a beautiful, mythological structure. 856 00:48:40,084 --> 00:48:42,451 Is this monster about things in them? 857 00:48:43,421 --> 00:48:44,889 Ain't got no spit. 858 00:48:46,891 --> 00:48:49,588 As all great storytelling is that the characters 859 00:48:49,677 --> 00:48:51,236 learn something about themselves, 860 00:48:51,312 --> 00:48:54,725 their phobias, the things that they're lacking. 861 00:48:55,216 --> 00:48:58,481 Why are they chasing this thing, the white whale? 862 00:48:59,587 --> 00:49:02,318 It's Melville, it's Hemingway, 863 00:49:02,389 --> 00:49:04,881 it's the ancient prophet, Jonah. 864 00:49:04,959 --> 00:49:07,803 These are the mythological parallels 865 00:49:07,912 --> 00:49:10,859 that bubble up from below the surface in Jaws 866 00:49:10,931 --> 00:49:13,081 that make it a timeless classic, 867 00:49:13,184 --> 00:49:17,872 that make it last long after the technological aspects of the film 868 00:49:17,938 --> 00:49:19,349 are old hat. 869 00:49:19,457 --> 00:49:23,269 It's a very classic, hero's journey kind of a story. 870 00:49:23,344 --> 00:49:28,077 If you subscribe to the mythmaking nature of screenwriting, 871 00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:32,249 it has all the ingredients that are not 872 00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:35,311 culturally specific to a generation's views. 873 00:49:35,473 --> 00:49:39,159 It's not Depression-America, it's not Vietnam-America. 874 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:46,016 It's a little timeless island with only the human values of fear, jealousy, 875 00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:48,967 or heroism or shark obsession. 876 00:49:49,253 --> 00:49:51,563 Part of what succeeds about Jaws 877 00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:54,108 is the simplicity of the way the story was told. 878 00:49:54,542 --> 00:49:56,533 And the fact that it's just three men and a boat, 879 00:49:56,644 --> 00:49:58,590 when you come right down to it, 880 00:49:58,696 --> 00:50:02,792 three survivors who all have problems with each other. 881 00:50:04,535 --> 00:50:06,481 You got city hands, Mr. Hooper. 882 00:50:06,554 --> 00:50:08,454 You been counting money all your life. 883 00:50:08,556 --> 00:50:12,015 I don't need this. I don't need this working-class-hero crap. 884 00:50:12,092 --> 00:50:14,606 They have huge, personal issues with each other. 885 00:50:14,712 --> 00:50:17,556 But those are all cast aside as they have to become partners 886 00:50:17,648 --> 00:50:19,594 in order to help each other live 887 00:50:19,667 --> 00:50:21,567 and get through the experience. 888 00:50:21,652 --> 00:50:26,055 And the shark becomes less important than those three characters. 889 00:50:26,140 --> 00:50:28,256 And I have to give Peter Benchley total credit for that. 890 00:50:28,359 --> 00:50:29,359 That was in the book. 891 00:50:29,677 --> 00:50:32,772 The characters in Jaws are composites. All of them are. 892 00:50:32,997 --> 00:50:36,058 I, in Jaws, am two people. 893 00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:38,983 I am Hooper from the environmental point of view, 894 00:50:39,053 --> 00:50:40,350 I am the guy who says, 895 00:50:40,421 --> 00:50:42,799 "He doesn't wanna hurt you, he just wants to eat you." 896 00:50:42,907 --> 00:50:45,786 On the other hand, I'm also the character of Brody, 897 00:50:45,859 --> 00:50:48,885 in that every book I've written has been an everyman kind of book, 898 00:50:48,963 --> 00:50:54,549 of what would happen if a normal Joe gets himself into a position 899 00:50:54,919 --> 00:50:57,286 that is way beyond his capacity to handle. 900 00:50:57,388 --> 00:50:59,755 And here's Brody who doesn't swim, 901 00:51:00,241 --> 00:51:02,084 who's never been in the ocean in his life, 902 00:51:02,176 --> 00:51:03,974 who's a retired New York City policeman, 903 00:51:04,078 --> 00:51:06,376 who's out in the boondocks and suddenly, 904 00:51:06,447 --> 00:51:08,779 he's cast into having to be a seaman. 905 00:51:09,033 --> 00:51:10,865 This is ridiculous. 906 00:51:11,235 --> 00:51:15,820 After watching a stumblebum like Brody 907 00:51:15,889 --> 00:51:18,881 save his neck by just doing 908 00:51:18,993 --> 00:51:21,462 what almost anybody would do in that situation, 909 00:51:21,579 --> 00:51:23,775 you get a gun, you get out of the boat, 910 00:51:23,881 --> 00:51:26,043 you try to save yourself, you get up on the mast, 911 00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:28,892 you shoot the thing. You do what you have to do. 912 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,517 So much so that you feel like you have done it. 913 00:51:32,623 --> 00:51:34,671 Everybody sitting in the audience did it, 914 00:51:34,742 --> 00:51:36,756 because I certainly did not show 915 00:51:36,844 --> 00:51:40,439 any courageous aspect of myself up till that point. 916 00:51:40,648 --> 00:51:42,798 And the characters drive you so forward 917 00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:46,427 that by the time the shark is flapping its mouth, 918 00:51:46,537 --> 00:51:47,800 jumping onto the boat, 919 00:51:48,372 --> 00:51:50,022 all you can think of is, "Quint, 920 00:51:50,090 --> 00:51:51,706 "get your feet away from its mouth. 921 00:51:52,026 --> 00:51:54,859 "Just kick it. Get it away. Stab it, get it away. 922 00:51:54,928 --> 00:51:58,444 "Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Ah! Shit!" 923 00:52:00,718 --> 00:52:03,187 You've got the family unit in the first half of the film, 924 00:52:03,304 --> 00:52:07,241 where Brody has a very, very personable family that you just, 925 00:52:07,308 --> 00:52:09,140 right away you love them when they wake up in the morning, 926 00:52:09,209 --> 00:52:10,233 and you're there with them. 927 00:52:10,411 --> 00:52:14,393 They're in the "yard," not too "far" from the "car." 928 00:52:17,151 --> 00:52:18,346 How's that? 929 00:52:18,419 --> 00:52:19,534 Like you're from New York. 930 00:52:19,637 --> 00:52:23,904 I always said that the characters in the movie reminded me of relatives. 931 00:52:24,008 --> 00:52:26,272 That's how… I felt I knew them. 932 00:52:26,377 --> 00:52:29,256 He had such a great handle 933 00:52:29,330 --> 00:52:34,951 on depicting suburban, middle class, everyday American life. 934 00:52:35,052 --> 00:52:37,953 And what he put up there was almost documentary-like. 935 00:52:38,055 --> 00:52:39,864 I mean, it was just so real. 936 00:52:42,876 --> 00:52:44,344 One of the things that Jaws did 937 00:52:44,428 --> 00:52:46,920 that I wish movies still did more of 938 00:52:47,031 --> 00:52:50,808 is invade a community and use actual locals in the movie. 939 00:52:50,884 --> 00:52:53,546 It brings the movie to life in such a real way. 940 00:52:55,823 --> 00:52:58,087 Islander, Lee Fierro, who portrayed 941 00:52:58,158 --> 00:53:00,354 the grieving mother of doomed Alex Kintner, 942 00:53:00,527 --> 00:53:02,291 still lives on the Vineyard today. 943 00:53:02,363 --> 00:53:05,822 Her now infamous confrontation scene with Chief Martin Brody 944 00:53:05,899 --> 00:53:09,142 has become a favorite sequence among Jaws fans. 945 00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:11,251 Chief Brody? 946 00:53:11,305 --> 00:53:12,352 Yes? 947 00:53:13,273 --> 00:53:15,139 It's been accurately recorded that 948 00:53:15,209 --> 00:53:17,109 she had to slap the chief many, many times 949 00:53:17,177 --> 00:53:19,271 in order to get just the right take. 950 00:53:20,114 --> 00:53:23,311 Little did she know then that her slapping days had just begun. 951 00:53:25,319 --> 00:53:28,732 How many times have I been asked to slap somebody? 952 00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:33,658 I've never counted them and so I can't tell you. 953 00:53:33,844 --> 00:53:38,190 But it happens a lot and it is mostly young men. 954 00:53:40,384 --> 00:53:47,233 I do it to please the fans, but last year, I decided that is it. 955 00:53:47,307 --> 00:53:49,776 I've slapped my last slap. 956 00:53:51,512 --> 00:53:54,129 Meeting Steve Spielberg was a wonderful memory. 957 00:53:54,398 --> 00:53:58,346 He asked me if I could improvise and I said, "Yes, I can." 958 00:53:58,419 --> 00:54:03,186 And so we did… Shari Rhodes, the casting director, and I 959 00:54:03,257 --> 00:54:07,785 improvised the beach scene, but I had simply been told 960 00:54:07,878 --> 00:54:11,041 keep my son out of the water, so that's what I was doing. 961 00:54:11,365 --> 00:54:14,266 And Steve stopped me and said, "Lee, 962 00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:19,266 "you gotta let him go in the water or we don't have a movie." 963 00:54:21,909 --> 00:54:26,540 They had a raft that was cut in half, and they take my raft away 964 00:54:26,613 --> 00:54:28,331 and they put this half a raft over this. 965 00:54:28,432 --> 00:54:31,026 It was like that round that they filled up with blood 966 00:54:31,135 --> 00:54:33,069 and all this stuff. He goes, 967 00:54:33,170 --> 00:54:35,036 "Now, lie on the half a raft on top of this, 968 00:54:35,139 --> 00:54:38,552 "it's gonna blow up. When it blows up, go underwater 969 00:54:38,826 --> 00:54:41,454 "and stay under there as long as you can." 970 00:54:41,545 --> 00:54:44,537 So you're 12 years old, lying on this and they're saying, 971 00:54:44,631 --> 00:54:46,565 "It's full of blood." They're saying, "It's gonna blow up." 972 00:54:46,633 --> 00:54:49,762 And it's like I'm lying there and all of a sudden… 973 00:54:49,837 --> 00:54:51,987 This thing blows up, and there's blood 974 00:54:52,089 --> 00:54:54,137 going up all over the place in your face 975 00:54:54,208 --> 00:54:57,109 and I just went under water and I hear, 976 00:54:57,211 --> 00:55:00,374 "Cut. Okay, your leg was out of the water," and they had to… 977 00:55:01,482 --> 00:55:04,691 It took over an hour for all the blood to clear out of the water 978 00:55:04,802 --> 00:55:06,429 before they could do it again. 979 00:55:06,537 --> 00:55:09,734 I'd get to go inside one of these warm little dressing rooms. 980 00:55:10,007 --> 00:55:13,056 My friends were all freezing cold outside, but I screwed up 981 00:55:13,126 --> 00:55:15,595 so I get to go stay warm. 982 00:55:16,597 --> 00:55:19,840 And after about four times of doing this, they finally said, "No. 983 00:55:19,967 --> 00:55:21,844 "We're gonna try this a different way." 984 00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:23,336 And if you noticed in the movie, 985 00:55:23,487 --> 00:55:26,969 I go up and down 'cause these guys in the wet suits started… 986 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,271 They grabbed me and they were pulling me under, lifting me up, 987 00:55:30,344 --> 00:55:32,608 and then they pulled me under and gave me their air. 988 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,757 And that's how they finally did it. 989 00:55:34,865 --> 00:55:38,665 They gave up on a 12-year-old kid trying to do it on his own. 990 00:55:40,838 --> 00:55:44,888 For the insert shot needed of Bruce biting down on little Alex, 991 00:55:44,975 --> 00:55:48,605 the dangers of interacting with a multi-ton mechanical shark 992 00:55:48,695 --> 00:55:52,097 required that Jeffrey be replaced with a stunt double. 993 00:55:52,165 --> 00:55:56,580 In this case, a common store mannequin. And a female one at that. 994 00:55:57,421 --> 00:56:00,618 It was to be one of the very last shots done on the Vineyard. 995 00:56:01,425 --> 00:56:04,053 Steven Spielberg had already departed the island. 996 00:56:04,161 --> 00:56:06,004 And filming was left in the capable hands 997 00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:07,956 of Joe Alves in the second unit. 998 00:56:11,285 --> 00:56:15,483 In true Jaws fashion, the scene proved extremely difficult to coordinate. 999 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:18,641 But in the end, the shot would provide audiences 1000 00:56:18,725 --> 00:56:22,457 with the now famous frightening first glimpse of Bruce. 1001 00:56:29,836 --> 00:56:31,031 Your folks were born here, right? 1002 00:56:31,104 --> 00:56:32,230 Yeah, I'm an Islander. 1003 00:56:32,306 --> 00:56:34,400 Vineyard native, Jonathan Filley, 1004 00:56:34,474 --> 00:56:36,568 who played Tom Cassidy in the film, 1005 00:56:36,843 --> 00:56:38,823 parleyed his one and only acting job 1006 00:56:38,929 --> 00:56:42,024 into a solid career in the motion picture industry. 1007 00:56:42,316 --> 00:56:44,057 I had done a lot of acting in high school 1008 00:56:44,151 --> 00:56:46,415 and really thought that I wanted to pursue an acting career, 1009 00:56:46,486 --> 00:56:47,783 and there I was on the Vineyard 1010 00:56:47,854 --> 00:56:51,472 and saw an ad in the paper that they wanted extras for Jaws. 1011 00:56:51,942 --> 00:56:53,933 So I sent in a snapshot of me at the beach 1012 00:56:54,044 --> 00:56:55,842 the summer before with some friends, 1013 00:56:55,946 --> 00:56:58,916 and I think I circled that, "That's me," and they cast me. 1014 00:57:00,217 --> 00:57:02,276 There was so much stuff that they didn't need that was shot. 1015 00:57:02,386 --> 00:57:04,013 I was in and out of the production 1016 00:57:04,121 --> 00:57:06,089 and around it quite a bit. There's a piece in the picture 1017 00:57:06,173 --> 00:57:09,222 where this guy is complaining to the chief that, 1018 00:57:09,326 --> 00:57:11,226 "Chief, the kids are karate-chopping my fences," 1019 00:57:11,328 --> 00:57:13,774 but, yeah, of course, they didn't need the actual coverage 1020 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,144 of the kids karate-chopping fences. 1021 00:57:18,251 --> 00:57:20,765 And what I really cherish about this movie, 1022 00:57:20,871 --> 00:57:22,384 having grown up on Chappaquiddick, 1023 00:57:22,456 --> 00:57:24,504 is that wonderful scene where they come over 1024 00:57:24,608 --> 00:57:26,076 on the Chappaquiddick ferry 1025 00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:28,503 and the guy running the ferry is this old fellow, Dick Huard, 1026 00:57:28,612 --> 00:57:31,206 who passed away 15 years, 20 years ago. 1027 00:57:31,315 --> 00:57:33,943 And Dick was an integral part of my childhood. 1028 00:57:34,051 --> 00:57:37,828 And just seeing Dick, it brings back so many memories. 1029 00:57:39,156 --> 00:57:41,625 For some fans, no pilgrimage to Amity 1030 00:57:41,725 --> 00:57:43,090 is complete without looking up some 1031 00:57:43,176 --> 00:57:45,577 of the many un-credited Vineyard residents 1032 00:57:45,646 --> 00:57:47,159 who make appearances in the film, 1033 00:57:47,264 --> 00:57:49,813 regardless of how miniscule their parts. 1034 00:57:52,185 --> 00:57:55,746 Richard Dreyfuss yells at me, "Ahoy, sloop, you got a paddle?" 1035 00:57:55,822 --> 00:57:57,096 And I say, "Yeah, I got a paddle." 1036 00:57:57,274 --> 00:57:58,274 You got a paddle on the boat? 1037 00:57:58,291 --> 00:57:59,291 I got a paddle. 1038 00:57:59,443 --> 00:58:01,184 And that was my one big line. 1039 00:58:01,378 --> 00:58:03,654 I quit, Mr. Quint. I quit. 1040 00:58:03,747 --> 00:58:08,958 My part was Quint's mate. There was a boat named Skip Bucket 1041 00:58:09,036 --> 00:58:11,516 that had all the camera crew who were coming home. 1042 00:58:11,605 --> 00:58:15,724 Spielberg says, "Will you do me a favor?" And I said, "I'll try to." 1043 00:58:15,826 --> 00:58:18,136 And he says, "Will you take up a speaking part with the dog?" 1044 00:58:18,211 --> 00:58:19,211 And I said, "Yes." 1045 00:58:19,930 --> 00:58:22,900 So, I went to get cleaned up a little bit, 1046 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,049 and they told me I had to get dirty again, 1047 00:58:26,136 --> 00:58:30,369 so I couldn't shave anymore. 1048 00:58:31,775 --> 00:58:33,766 I'm Henry Carreiro, 1049 00:58:33,944 --> 00:58:35,685 I was one of the two guys 1050 00:58:35,779 --> 00:58:37,269 that claim we caught this tiger shark, 1051 00:58:37,381 --> 00:58:39,895 which was shot right on this spot. 1052 00:58:39,966 --> 00:58:42,594 And, of course, it turned out to be the wrong shark. 1053 00:58:42,703 --> 00:58:46,219 Right in this area, we had a shark here hanging by the tail, 1054 00:58:46,323 --> 00:58:50,874 which was a real one that we were told cost $10,000, 1055 00:58:51,228 --> 00:58:55,028 to have it caught off Florida and flown up here special in a box. 1056 00:58:55,499 --> 00:58:57,274 And they called him Oscar. 1057 00:58:57,350 --> 00:58:59,250 They got a lot of use out of that thing. 1058 00:58:59,336 --> 00:59:00,770 But the smell! 1059 00:59:01,405 --> 00:59:03,817 That tiger shark really got ripe. 1060 00:59:04,708 --> 00:59:07,917 I didn't know who, Dick, my partner was, till I met him that morning. 1061 00:59:07,994 --> 00:59:09,234 We hit it off very well. 1062 00:59:09,346 --> 00:59:12,145 He's funny, he's a character in his own right. 1063 00:59:12,249 --> 00:59:15,219 I immediately just clicked with this guy, 1064 00:59:15,302 --> 00:59:19,887 and we started cracking each other up and making jokes. 1065 00:59:20,207 --> 00:59:23,518 Henry is a very, very quick fellow. And he ad libs very well. 1066 00:59:23,627 --> 00:59:25,789 We played very well off of one another. 1067 00:59:25,996 --> 00:59:28,044 Gentlemen, the officer asked me to tell you 1068 00:59:28,115 --> 00:59:30,106 that you're overloading that boat! 1069 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,941 Go on, get out of here. 1070 00:59:32,018 --> 00:59:34,897 Dreyfuss, he said, "Where's a good restaurant around here?" 1071 00:59:35,005 --> 00:59:36,063 Whatever his line was. 1072 00:59:36,173 --> 00:59:38,904 And I turned around and I said, "Go straight ahead." 1073 00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:41,806 Big laugh, right. Yeah. Yeah. 1074 00:59:41,912 --> 00:59:43,027 And he left it in. 1075 00:59:43,213 --> 00:59:46,399 Can you tell me if there's a good restaurant or hotel on the island? 1076 00:59:46,750 --> 00:59:48,343 Yeah, you walk straight ahead. 1077 00:59:49,569 --> 00:59:51,219 They're all going to die. 1078 00:59:51,404 --> 00:59:53,873 Spielberg said, "Just say what comes into your head." 1079 00:59:54,024 --> 00:59:55,753 You stuff your frigging head in there, man, 1080 00:59:55,859 --> 00:59:57,554 and find out if it's a man-eater. 1081 00:59:58,762 --> 01:00:00,560 We had this guy who did an article 1082 01:00:00,664 --> 01:00:02,496 in the local paper on Cape Cod. 1083 01:00:02,582 --> 01:00:04,630 And he talked to Shari Rhodes and he said, 1084 01:00:04,718 --> 01:00:08,177 "Boy, you must have an Abbott and Costello going here." 1085 01:00:08,255 --> 01:00:10,235 She says, "No, I just have two Costellos." 1086 01:00:10,524 --> 01:00:11,741 It's got a deep throat, Frank. 1087 01:00:11,842 --> 01:00:13,503 Yeah, but what kind? What kind of shark? 1088 01:00:13,577 --> 01:00:15,204 Tiger shark. 1089 01:00:16,947 --> 01:00:18,108 A what? 1090 01:00:18,582 --> 01:00:20,482 There's one guy that pesters the hell out of me, 1091 01:00:20,584 --> 01:00:25,169 every time he sees me, he walks up behind me and says, "A what?" 1092 01:00:25,255 --> 01:00:26,734 That's probably going to be 1093 01:00:26,807 --> 01:00:29,526 the most famous thing I've ever said in my life. 1094 01:00:29,693 --> 01:00:30,888 A what? 1095 01:00:31,595 --> 01:00:34,690 Mum, I got cut. I got hit by a vampire. 1096 01:00:36,133 --> 01:00:38,431 Then 12-year-old Chris Rebello, 1097 01:00:38,535 --> 01:00:40,811 who played Chief Brody's elder son, Michael, 1098 01:00:40,904 --> 01:00:42,133 remained on the Vineyard 1099 01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:46,142 until his untimely passing from a heart attack in the year 2000. 1100 01:00:47,444 --> 01:00:50,880 Chris was a friend. We grew up together on the island. 1101 01:00:51,348 --> 01:00:53,612 Working with Chris in the movie, 1102 01:00:53,717 --> 01:00:57,130 he was a brother, another brother to my family. 1103 01:00:57,204 --> 01:01:00,686 On set, we used to fool around and play, 1104 01:01:00,774 --> 01:01:03,618 sometimes Steven would say, "Okay, that's enough. 1105 01:01:03,727 --> 01:01:06,162 "It's time to get back to work. Let's do our thing." 1106 01:01:06,263 --> 01:01:09,107 And after the movie was done, he didn't do any more acting. 1107 01:01:09,216 --> 01:01:10,843 He went on to work for the Steamship Authority 1108 01:01:10,934 --> 01:01:12,459 with my brother, Tommy. 1109 01:01:12,569 --> 01:01:15,311 And that's where he worked until his passing. 1110 01:01:17,841 --> 01:01:21,209 We really miss him. We really miss him. 1111 01:01:24,848 --> 01:01:29,058 Perhaps no islander gained more notoriety for his involvement in Jaws 1112 01:01:29,135 --> 01:01:31,035 than the late Craig Kings bury. 1113 01:01:31,872 --> 01:01:33,601 Craig's gruff and blustery demeanor 1114 01:01:33,673 --> 01:01:36,392 had made him a local legend in his own right. 1115 01:01:36,493 --> 01:01:41,192 And his portrayal of fisherman Ben Gardner, a favorite among Jaws fans. 1116 01:01:41,298 --> 01:01:46,759 They advertised for some person who was a fisherman, a local, 1117 01:01:47,087 --> 01:01:49,715 who could help Robert Shaw with his accent. 1118 01:01:49,789 --> 01:01:53,771 Robert was a refined British actor until he met my father, 1119 01:01:53,877 --> 01:01:56,471 and then my father told him stories about 1120 01:01:56,580 --> 01:01:59,140 this island and the people that live here, 1121 01:01:59,432 --> 01:02:03,300 and, unfortunately, I think Robert Shaw believed them. 1122 01:02:03,370 --> 01:02:06,271 He fell hook, line and sinker, and he began to repeat them. 1123 01:02:06,356 --> 01:02:08,267 He was interviewed on the air, 1124 01:02:08,358 --> 01:02:10,383 telling these totally outrageous stories 1125 01:02:10,477 --> 01:02:11,854 about the local community. 1126 01:02:11,962 --> 01:02:13,043 …the rich people here. 1127 01:02:13,113 --> 01:02:15,389 There's a lot of skeletons in the cupboard here, you know. 1128 01:02:15,482 --> 01:02:17,530 There's more incest going on in Martha's Vineyard 1129 01:02:17,634 --> 01:02:21,286 than probably any state in the United States. 1130 01:02:21,371 --> 01:02:24,898 They were mostly lies, which is what my father was best at. 1131 01:02:25,175 --> 01:02:27,758 They'll wish their fathers hadn't met their mothers… 1132 01:02:29,346 --> 01:02:32,407 My mother, when I took her to see the movie in Boston, 1133 01:02:32,499 --> 01:02:34,547 we came out of the theater and she said, 1134 01:02:34,651 --> 01:02:36,665 "That Spielberg, he's a genius. 1135 01:02:36,736 --> 01:02:40,548 "Finally, somebody has found a use for your father's empty head." 1136 01:02:41,408 --> 01:02:45,026 Of course, Craig's most memorable scene did involve his head, 1137 01:02:45,262 --> 01:02:46,627 but not the rest of him. 1138 01:02:46,730 --> 01:02:49,028 In fact, it didn't even take place at the Vineyard. 1139 01:02:49,215 --> 01:02:52,560 Three thousand miles away in Van Nuys, California, 1140 01:02:52,669 --> 01:02:55,195 Spielberg resourcefully created that 1141 01:02:55,305 --> 01:02:57,831 most shocking moment as an insert shot, 1142 01:02:58,041 --> 01:03:01,204 and he used little more than a foam life-cast of Kings bury 1143 01:03:01,311 --> 01:03:02,642 and a swimming pool. 1144 01:03:02,946 --> 01:03:05,643 Steven had just come from the answer print with Verna 1145 01:03:05,749 --> 01:03:07,899 at Universal and had signed off on it, 1146 01:03:07,968 --> 01:03:10,551 and here we were on that very eve, 1147 01:03:10,654 --> 01:03:14,454 doing an extra shot that we were gonna try to get in the next day. 1148 01:03:14,541 --> 01:03:16,316 That scene had already been shot. 1149 01:03:16,493 --> 01:03:18,655 But it wasn't done to shock the audience, 1150 01:03:18,762 --> 01:03:20,105 and so I went to Verna Fields', 1151 01:03:20,180 --> 01:03:21,454 my film editor's swimming pool, 1152 01:03:21,548 --> 01:03:23,448 borrowed her pool, 'cause I didn't have one, 1153 01:03:23,516 --> 01:03:25,541 I didn't have enough money to have a swimming pool in those days, 1154 01:03:25,618 --> 01:03:27,029 because Jaws hadn't come out yet, 1155 01:03:27,137 --> 01:03:28,514 and I was a poor director then. 1156 01:03:28,672 --> 01:03:31,403 We had a small replica of a hull 1157 01:03:31,508 --> 01:03:33,840 that I put together in Joe Alves' driveway. 1158 01:03:33,927 --> 01:03:36,305 And I basically held my breath underwater 1159 01:03:36,413 --> 01:03:39,474 and put the head of Ben Gardner through that hull 1160 01:03:39,566 --> 01:03:41,978 when Frankie Sparks came up with the flashlight. 1161 01:03:46,456 --> 01:03:50,199 I remember, I timed it to get maximum shock effect. 1162 01:03:55,098 --> 01:03:57,157 This is the pool where Steven Spielberg 1163 01:03:57,267 --> 01:03:59,326 filmed the Ben Gardner sequence. 1164 01:03:59,436 --> 01:04:01,154 And that was done right here. Very famous. 1165 01:04:01,221 --> 01:04:04,236 Scary. Scary moment. 1166 01:04:04,341 --> 01:04:06,867 What was the most satisfying edit you did in Jaws? 1167 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,440 The most satisfying edit, I have to say, 1168 01:04:09,546 --> 01:04:11,594 was the face coming out of the boat. 1169 01:04:11,664 --> 01:04:13,154 Because when I went to that preview, 1170 01:04:13,233 --> 01:04:15,884 and that audience just went six feet off their seats 1171 01:04:15,969 --> 01:04:20,623 and let out this incredible scream, that was really satisfying. 1172 01:04:20,724 --> 01:04:24,433 When we found this place, it was still full of her reels just sitting there, 1173 01:04:24,511 --> 01:04:27,412 but it was amazing treasure to find. 1174 01:04:28,932 --> 01:04:31,663 These are some footlockers that we found at the house. 1175 01:04:31,768 --> 01:04:35,204 These came back from Martha's Vineyard, from the shoot there, 1176 01:04:35,305 --> 01:04:39,105 and as you can see, "Verna Fields, editorial Jaws, " 1177 01:04:39,209 --> 01:04:41,007 on the cover of this one. 1178 01:04:41,111 --> 01:04:43,637 And inside, there are several film reels 1179 01:04:43,747 --> 01:04:47,308 of Verna's work still kept in these boxes here. 1180 01:04:47,417 --> 01:04:50,682 This is full of different films that she made. 1181 01:04:51,871 --> 01:04:53,999 Yeah, she had set up her editing facility here 1182 01:04:54,074 --> 01:04:57,806 and edited all of her films in this building right here. 1183 01:04:57,911 --> 01:05:00,380 It's kind of cool that this humble, simple room 1184 01:05:00,447 --> 01:05:03,974 is where one of the greatest movies ever was put together. 1185 01:05:04,968 --> 01:05:05,968 What are we looking for? 1186 01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:07,764 We're looking for a nice place to show 1187 01:05:07,871 --> 01:05:10,533 that Quint refuses to slow down the boat. 1188 01:05:12,025 --> 01:05:17,680 And here we have the Moviola that Verna Fields used to edit Jaws. 1189 01:05:17,781 --> 01:05:21,558 Every second of the Jaws film passed through this machine 1190 01:05:21,634 --> 01:05:24,353 by the hands of Verna Fields. That's special. 1191 01:05:24,454 --> 01:05:28,413 Doesn't look very pretty now, but maybe someday, it will again. 1192 01:05:29,793 --> 01:05:31,511 Verna and I worked in her pool house 1193 01:05:31,578 --> 01:05:34,354 shoulder to shoulder for a long time on that Moviola. 1194 01:05:34,481 --> 01:05:37,940 And Verna did a great job with her biorhythms. 1195 01:05:38,017 --> 01:05:42,796 Creating a biorhythm for Jaws that was just the right kind of tautness, 1196 01:05:42,906 --> 01:05:45,750 like a violin string to play a very, very high note. 1197 01:05:48,645 --> 01:05:50,443 It can't take that much pressure. 1198 01:05:53,183 --> 01:05:54,491 That's the spot, Steve. 1199 01:05:59,088 --> 01:06:01,534 My husband tells me you're in sharks. 1200 01:06:04,344 --> 01:06:07,655 Excuse me. Yes. I've never heard it quite put that way. 1201 01:06:07,730 --> 01:06:09,141 But yes, I am. 1202 01:06:09,549 --> 01:06:10,710 I love sharks. 1203 01:06:11,151 --> 01:06:12,459 Yeah, I love them. 1204 01:06:14,003 --> 01:06:17,769 I think the fascination with sharks comes from many things. 1205 01:06:17,841 --> 01:06:21,402 One, they are the last surviving predator 1206 01:06:21,478 --> 01:06:23,503 that poses a genuine threat to man 1207 01:06:23,580 --> 01:06:26,561 in an environment in which he chooses to go. 1208 01:06:28,635 --> 01:06:32,219 E. O. Wilson said, "We don't just fear our predators, 1209 01:06:32,305 --> 01:06:34,023 "we are transfixed by them." 1210 01:06:34,574 --> 01:06:36,838 Prone to weave stories and fables 1211 01:06:36,943 --> 01:06:42,109 because fascination breeds preparedness, and preparedness, survival. 1212 01:06:42,215 --> 01:06:46,402 In a deeply tribal sense, he said, "We love our monsters." 1213 01:06:48,488 --> 01:06:53,221 I believe that worldwide, young children, all male children at least, 1214 01:06:53,326 --> 01:06:56,193 have a fascination with either sharks or dinosaurs. 1215 01:06:56,296 --> 01:06:57,878 Very big shark. 1216 01:06:58,047 --> 01:07:00,823 And in my case, I was able to grow up around here 1217 01:07:00,934 --> 01:07:03,960 in Nantucket where sharks were in proliferation. 1218 01:07:04,053 --> 01:07:07,421 So I was able to fix my fascination on sharks. 1219 01:07:10,777 --> 01:07:13,462 One couple whose fixed fascination 1220 01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:17,194 led to their preeminence in the field of great white shark research 1221 01:07:17,267 --> 01:07:21,534 was husband and wife team Ron and Valerie Taylor of Australia. 1222 01:07:21,704 --> 01:07:25,106 Their combined experience throughout the '60s and '70s 1223 01:07:25,174 --> 01:07:27,688 documenting these elusive animals 1224 01:07:27,794 --> 01:07:31,128 made them the perfect fit for the Jaws creative team. 1225 01:07:31,231 --> 01:07:34,007 They were commissioned to shoot live shark footage 1226 01:07:34,083 --> 01:07:37,428 for the picture's climactic cage sequence. 1227 01:07:37,537 --> 01:07:40,063 The assignment would prove to be almost as harrowing 1228 01:07:40,173 --> 01:07:41,720 as anything in the film itself. 1229 01:07:42,909 --> 01:07:44,399 I told them that there's a problem, 1230 01:07:44,494 --> 01:07:48,806 because our sharks on average are only about 13 feet in length, 1231 01:07:48,915 --> 01:07:52,328 and yet your mechanical shark is 26 feet in length. 1232 01:07:52,402 --> 01:07:54,018 And they said, "Well, there's no problem. 1233 01:07:54,103 --> 01:07:57,915 "We'll send you a small man and small cages." 1234 01:07:58,107 --> 01:08:03,625 We built a scaled down cage, and we tried a dummy and that didn't work, 1235 01:08:03,730 --> 01:08:08,725 so we found a small person that said that they could scuba dive. 1236 01:08:08,835 --> 01:08:11,395 Carl wasn't an experienced diver. 1237 01:08:11,571 --> 01:08:15,633 So we gave him an introduction to diving just down on the waterfront 1238 01:08:15,742 --> 01:08:18,427 and took him out to Dangerous Reef. 1239 01:08:18,678 --> 01:08:23,332 And when he saw his first great white shark, he was terrified. 1240 01:08:23,416 --> 01:08:27,478 But to give him his credit, Carl actually did get into the cage 1241 01:08:27,587 --> 01:08:30,534 with these great, big, dangerous looking 1242 01:08:30,607 --> 01:08:31,950 great white sharks swimming around. 1243 01:08:32,058 --> 01:08:35,005 Dangerous looking because we had put a lot of bait in the water 1244 01:08:35,078 --> 01:08:37,024 to attract them to our cages. 1245 01:08:38,498 --> 01:08:41,183 Joe Alves came into my office one day 1246 01:08:41,250 --> 01:08:44,811 with his hand behind his back and he said, "Bill, we've screwed up." 1247 01:08:44,887 --> 01:08:48,869 And he held up the tanks that had been miniaturized. 1248 01:08:48,975 --> 01:08:52,878 He said, "That little guy only has eight minutes of air." 1249 01:08:53,146 --> 01:08:54,557 What we were not thinking 1250 01:08:54,631 --> 01:08:59,296 is that a small person still sucks up as much air as a large person, 1251 01:08:59,369 --> 01:09:01,417 and the tanks were very small. 1252 01:09:01,521 --> 01:09:03,740 So, immediately, when he sort of panicked, 1253 01:09:03,806 --> 01:09:06,685 he sucked up all the air out of the tank. 1254 01:09:06,793 --> 01:09:10,252 Carl was very reluctant. He was afraid. Very afraid. 1255 01:09:10,363 --> 01:09:14,573 The production manager was calling out to him to get in the cage, 1256 01:09:14,651 --> 01:09:18,804 and he was very slow about it, and just as he was about to climb in, 1257 01:09:18,905 --> 01:09:21,647 a large shark tried to swim over it 1258 01:09:21,741 --> 01:09:24,438 and got its head stuck in the bridle, 1259 01:09:24,544 --> 01:09:28,128 and of course, it was trapped and it went crazy. 1260 01:09:28,197 --> 01:09:31,599 And the tail went into the back part of the little boat 1261 01:09:31,668 --> 01:09:34,399 and tore out all the hydraulic cables 1262 01:09:34,487 --> 01:09:37,184 that took fuel and fluid to the motors. 1263 01:09:37,290 --> 01:09:40,191 And it started to run across the deck, and as it did that, 1264 01:09:40,293 --> 01:09:43,627 the tail flicked Carl's face. 1265 01:09:43,730 --> 01:09:46,461 And Carl just stood there, and he looked up and he said, 1266 01:09:46,566 --> 01:09:51,367 "Is that my blood?" And it was actually the hydraulic fluid. 1267 01:09:51,471 --> 01:09:53,667 And we never got him in the water again. 1268 01:09:54,774 --> 01:09:58,938 If Carl had been in that cage, he would have lost his life. 1269 01:09:59,045 --> 01:10:02,629 There wasn't much I could've done to get over there. 1270 01:10:02,699 --> 01:10:04,997 The shark was still tangled, and thrashing around 1271 01:10:05,068 --> 01:10:07,912 and tangled in the cage on the bottom. 1272 01:10:08,004 --> 01:10:10,314 Carl would have been in there and drowned. 1273 01:10:10,423 --> 01:10:12,790 So his reluctance saved his life. 1274 01:10:19,499 --> 01:10:22,127 1,100 men went into the water. 1275 01:10:22,235 --> 01:10:24,397 Vessel went down in 12 minutes. 1276 01:10:26,606 --> 01:10:30,292 Didn't see the first shark for about half an hour. Tiger… 1277 01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:32,600 A very little credited writer who made 1278 01:10:32,712 --> 01:10:34,191 the biggest breakthrough on Jaws, 1279 01:10:34,263 --> 01:10:36,777 which was a writer named Howard Sackler, 1280 01:10:36,883 --> 01:10:39,978 whose idea it was to give Quint the Indianapolis speech, 1281 01:10:40,086 --> 01:10:42,828 even though it was John Milius who wrote the speech, 1282 01:10:42,905 --> 01:10:45,624 I mean, Howard Sackler wrote like two paragraphs this big, 1283 01:10:45,725 --> 01:10:50,470 John Milius wrote a nine page monologue for Quint to say. 1284 01:10:50,563 --> 01:10:53,112 And then when Robert Shaw, who himself was a writer, 1285 01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:57,067 of The Man in the Glass Booth read Milius' 10 pages, 1286 01:10:57,170 --> 01:10:59,901 he says, "I can't go on for 10, 15 minutes 1287 01:11:00,006 --> 01:11:02,748 "just talking. Let me have a crack at it." 1288 01:11:02,842 --> 01:11:07,757 Shaw took the speech and himself edited it down to five pages. 1289 01:11:07,847 --> 01:11:10,646 And that was the whole evolution of how that speech was told, 1290 01:11:10,750 --> 01:11:13,549 but it did come from the mind of Howard Sackler, 1291 01:11:13,653 --> 01:11:15,917 who remembered the actual Indianapolis incident 1292 01:11:16,022 --> 01:11:17,535 and suggested that Quint… 1293 01:11:17,607 --> 01:11:20,292 That that become a Rosetta stone for Quint's entire character. 1294 01:11:20,393 --> 01:11:22,612 Steven said, "Oh, my God." 1295 01:11:22,678 --> 01:11:27,366 That's the whole impetus, that's the whole spine of Quint. 1296 01:11:27,467 --> 01:11:33,918 He's not really just crazy, but he has a case out for these sharks. 1297 01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:36,038 You know, by the end of that first dawn… 1298 01:11:38,211 --> 01:11:39,519 we lost 100 men. 1299 01:11:41,364 --> 01:11:43,640 I don't know how many sharks. Maybe 1,000. 1300 01:11:43,733 --> 01:11:46,384 I don't know how many men, they averaged six an hour. 1301 01:11:46,486 --> 01:11:51,390 The USS Indianapolis was top secret when Peter wrote the book. 1302 01:11:51,491 --> 01:11:55,906 So it wasn't in it. He would've used it, I think. 1303 01:11:55,978 --> 01:11:58,288 And then, before the making of the film, 1304 01:11:58,381 --> 01:12:00,657 it had been unclassified and Steven used it. 1305 01:12:00,750 --> 01:12:04,232 The world learned of the USS Indianapolis through Jaws 1306 01:12:04,337 --> 01:12:09,025 and it was a perfectly accurate depiction insofar as I know. 1307 01:12:09,091 --> 01:12:12,607 Peter's domestic housekeeper called in the day after the movie opened 1308 01:12:12,712 --> 01:12:16,444 and she said that she wasn't coming in to work the next day. 1309 01:12:16,549 --> 01:12:17,983 And when he said, "Why," she said, 1310 01:12:18,084 --> 01:12:20,246 "My son was on the USS Indianapolis, 1311 01:12:20,353 --> 01:12:22,447 "and I never knew how he died until now." 1312 01:12:25,558 --> 01:12:28,209 He'd been bitten in half, below the waist. 1313 01:12:31,013 --> 01:12:33,141 The U. S. naval cruiser which delivered 1314 01:12:33,216 --> 01:12:35,264 the atomic bomb used on Hiroshima 1315 01:12:35,368 --> 01:12:36,802 completed her mission, 1316 01:12:36,903 --> 01:12:39,736 but was then sunk by a Japanese submarine. 1317 01:12:41,307 --> 01:12:45,687 Out of her complement of 1,196 sailors and Marines, 1318 01:12:45,761 --> 01:12:48,742 an estimated 300 died upon impact. 1319 01:12:49,282 --> 01:12:52,183 And the rest spent five days in shark infested waters 1320 01:12:52,285 --> 01:12:54,117 before they were finally rescued. 1321 01:12:55,655 --> 01:12:58,920 Only 317 survived. 1322 01:13:01,444 --> 01:13:05,290 Anyway, we delivered the bomb. 1323 01:13:07,817 --> 01:13:14,132 Robert was a pretty Promethean character. Truly bigger than life. 1324 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:18,199 A man who intimidated me, who scared me, 1325 01:13:18,311 --> 01:13:22,361 who exhilarated me, and I liked him and I hated him and… 1326 01:13:23,950 --> 01:13:29,389 He had my number. He could get me and he always did. 1327 01:13:29,472 --> 01:13:32,635 He really thought Dreyfuss needed a slapping down. 1328 01:13:33,743 --> 01:13:36,758 Young punk with no stage experience. 1329 01:13:36,846 --> 01:13:39,588 He made me doubt that I could do things I knew I could do, 1330 01:13:39,699 --> 01:13:45,388 like one day he said, "You couldn't dive off the top of the Orca." 1331 01:13:46,973 --> 01:13:49,453 "Yes, I can." "No, you couldn't." 1332 01:13:49,642 --> 01:13:52,543 "Can do." And I couldn't. 1333 01:13:52,645 --> 01:13:54,864 Shaw would say, "Look at you, Dreyfuss. 1334 01:13:54,931 --> 01:13:59,141 "You eat, you drink, you're fat and you're sloppy. 1335 01:13:59,235 --> 01:14:02,421 "At your age, it's criminal. 1336 01:14:02,505 --> 01:14:05,452 "You couldn't even do 10 good push-ups." 1337 01:14:06,392 --> 01:14:08,383 He'd say, "I can do 20." 1338 01:14:08,878 --> 01:14:12,758 And Shaw would say, "You can do 20 good push-ups?" 1339 01:14:13,466 --> 01:14:15,730 He'd say, "Okay, Roy, you're the referee. 1340 01:14:15,835 --> 01:14:20,636 "Tomorrow morning, we're gonna see if Dreyfuss can do 20…" 1341 01:14:20,740 --> 01:14:22,003 As soon as Shaw left, I said, 1342 01:14:22,108 --> 01:14:27,057 "Dreyfuss, you know how many people can do 20 good push-ups? 1343 01:14:27,263 --> 01:14:28,697 "You are not one of them." 1344 01:14:29,332 --> 01:14:31,426 Couldn't do it. He psyched me 1345 01:14:32,118 --> 01:14:35,804 and because he psyched me, I was always like on guard. 1346 01:14:36,022 --> 01:14:40,823 But I also really worshipped him as Robert Shaw. 1347 01:14:40,910 --> 01:14:45,564 He was a grand artist as an actor, he was a wonderful writer. 1348 01:14:45,665 --> 01:14:49,192 I think, in those years, I was very much appreciative of those things. 1349 01:14:49,285 --> 01:14:54,553 And had circumstances been different, 1350 01:14:54,623 --> 01:14:57,399 we might have worked together again. 1351 01:14:57,510 --> 01:15:02,710 Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies 1352 01:15:02,815 --> 01:15:06,774 Farewell and adieu, you ladies of Spain 1353 01:15:07,687 --> 01:15:11,772 On August 28th, 1978, at the age of 51, 1354 01:15:11,841 --> 01:15:16,859 Robert Shaw died from a heart attack. But his legacy lives on. 1355 01:15:16,946 --> 01:15:19,222 His now mythic portrayal of Quint 1356 01:15:19,315 --> 01:15:21,579 continues to be remembered by celebrities… 1357 01:15:21,650 --> 01:15:26,486 Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies 1358 01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:28,737 …and fans alike. 1359 01:15:30,292 --> 01:15:32,738 Ho open you idiot, starboard! Ain't you watching it! 1360 01:15:33,295 --> 01:15:34,387 Bad fish. 1361 01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:36,448 Not like going down to the pond 1362 01:15:36,549 --> 01:15:38,426 and chasing bluegills or Tommy cods. 1363 01:15:38,501 --> 01:15:40,868 This shark, swallow you whole. 1364 01:15:42,722 --> 01:15:45,669 Mr. Mayor, Chief, 1365 01:15:46,342 --> 01:15:48,083 ladies and gentlemen. 1366 01:15:51,213 --> 01:15:54,808 Commemorations of the film's central characters and scenes 1367 01:15:54,884 --> 01:15:57,569 show up in the fine arts, as well. 1368 01:15:57,837 --> 01:16:01,523 Exquisite depictions from sculptors, painters, craftsmen, 1369 01:16:01,624 --> 01:16:03,615 all fans from around the globe, 1370 01:16:03,692 --> 01:16:06,206 reflect the creative excellence of the film itself. 1371 01:16:14,637 --> 01:16:18,585 I have a tremendous appreciation for fans of Jaws 1372 01:16:18,758 --> 01:16:21,272 that understand it even better than I do. 1373 01:16:21,544 --> 01:16:23,387 That have spent more time with it. 1374 01:16:23,496 --> 01:16:27,376 Having sites out there like Jawsmovie.com, 1375 01:16:27,450 --> 01:16:30,181 it confirms your identity to a generation 1376 01:16:30,286 --> 01:16:32,755 that doesn't believe anything is real if it's not on the net. 1377 01:16:32,822 --> 01:16:36,338 I love and appreciate the fact that the fans get it, 1378 01:16:36,442 --> 01:16:40,857 and not only get it as a cultural phenomenon, 1379 01:16:40,930 --> 01:16:44,298 but they get the ingredients, and how the ingredients were mixed 1380 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,199 and how they were combined to fashion this entertainment. 1381 01:16:47,303 --> 01:16:50,512 And I really love the fans for being so insightful. 1382 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,631 At this time, I'd like to present the key to the town of Amity 1383 01:16:59,799 --> 01:17:01,164 to Mr. Peter Benchley. 1384 01:17:04,954 --> 01:17:08,333 It was amazing to me to discover what JAWSFEST became. 1385 01:17:08,424 --> 01:17:11,337 When I first heard about it, I thought it was gonna be 1386 01:17:11,427 --> 01:17:14,545 some rinky-dink gimmick by the Chamber of Commerce of Martha's Vineyard, 1387 01:17:14,647 --> 01:17:16,809 and they did it so well, 1388 01:17:17,016 --> 01:17:20,964 it brought, I guess, 2,000, 3,000 people from all over the world. 1389 01:17:21,036 --> 01:17:23,164 I was enormously impressed. 1390 01:17:23,239 --> 01:17:24,980 This is the first time 1391 01:17:25,074 --> 01:17:26,872 we've all been standing together, 1392 01:17:26,959 --> 01:17:29,826 and that includes the making of the movie 30 years ago. 1393 01:17:29,929 --> 01:17:31,545 There was no wrap party. 1394 01:17:31,614 --> 01:17:35,915 We never were all in the same place at the same time, until now. 1395 01:17:35,985 --> 01:17:39,000 So this is a more historic moment than you can imagine, 1396 01:17:39,088 --> 01:17:40,396 and we thank you for it. 1397 01:17:40,506 --> 01:17:41,769 So much interest in this movie, 1398 01:17:41,874 --> 01:17:44,741 I had no idea that it had this national and international attention, 1399 01:17:44,844 --> 01:17:46,460 and this is the Star Trek convention 1400 01:17:46,529 --> 01:17:48,463 for people who love the movie Jaws. 1401 01:17:50,850 --> 01:17:54,787 Is that $3,000 bounty on the shark in cash or check? 1402 01:17:54,887 --> 01:17:56,651 You yell, "Shark!" 1403 01:17:56,739 --> 01:17:59,754 We've got a panic on our hands on the Fourth of July. 1404 01:17:59,859 --> 01:18:01,793 Chief, Polly sent me to find you. 1405 01:18:01,894 --> 01:18:03,942 There's a bunch of Boy Scouts out in Avril Bay 1406 01:18:04,013 --> 01:18:06,573 doing the mile swim for their merit badges. 1407 01:18:06,649 --> 01:18:08,481 People come from all over the world, 1408 01:18:08,551 --> 01:18:13,318 who are from Dublin and Edinburgh and New Zealand and Australia, 1409 01:18:13,389 --> 01:18:14,800 and it's just stunning. 1410 01:18:14,907 --> 01:18:17,239 I think that to me really shows the bones 1411 01:18:17,343 --> 01:18:18,777 and the fan base of the movie. 1412 01:18:18,878 --> 01:18:21,870 I mean, 30 years on, it's an achievement to have us all together. 1413 01:18:23,883 --> 01:18:25,658 Yeah, I saw that. I've got one at home. 1414 01:18:25,768 --> 01:18:26,985 Much larger version of it. 1415 01:18:27,086 --> 01:18:28,349 Much larger of course. 1416 01:18:29,371 --> 01:18:32,033 Came to see the big shark. Take some pictures. 1417 01:18:32,291 --> 01:18:34,259 You can literally sit in there. 1418 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,306 He will literally swallow you whole. 1419 01:18:44,003 --> 01:18:47,155 Do you know the Muffin Man? Well, say hello. 1420 01:18:47,223 --> 01:18:51,205 Being called the Muffin Man, I haven't been called that for years. 1421 01:18:51,744 --> 01:18:54,714 Ladies and gentlemen, the cast of Jaws. 1422 01:18:54,797 --> 01:18:59,007 This is the first time I saw Jaws on a wide screen in 26 years. 1423 01:18:59,134 --> 01:19:01,262 The audience, of course, was so into it. 1424 01:19:01,337 --> 01:19:04,113 What a great way to set up watching the film. 1425 01:19:04,223 --> 01:19:06,487 You've got the ferry going by behind the screen, 1426 01:19:06,592 --> 01:19:08,538 salt air is filling your lungs. 1427 01:19:08,811 --> 01:19:11,655 To see about 3,000 people sitting there watching the giant screen, 1428 01:19:11,764 --> 01:19:15,291 it was the Jaws version of The Rocky Horror Picture Show. 1429 01:19:16,986 --> 01:19:18,329 Smile, you son of a bitch! 1430 01:19:31,784 --> 01:19:33,582 Jaws is really unique in the way 1431 01:19:33,686 --> 01:19:35,484 that it was filmed in this specific place. 1432 01:19:35,571 --> 01:19:38,051 Other movies are filmed in all kinds of obscure locations. 1433 01:19:38,157 --> 01:19:40,034 Most people don't have a clue where they were filmed. 1434 01:19:40,109 --> 01:19:42,692 Jaws was right here all over this island. 1435 01:19:42,795 --> 01:19:45,639 And you can't really get away from it, even if you wanted to. 1436 01:19:46,815 --> 01:19:47,839 Coming up on the left, 1437 01:19:47,967 --> 01:19:51,449 you'll see the house that was used for the Brody residence in the film. 1438 01:19:52,071 --> 01:19:53,812 If you wanted to go see a film location, 1439 01:19:54,073 --> 01:19:56,235 things change, houses get painted, 1440 01:19:56,342 --> 01:19:59,027 and most of the time, they're even on a sound stage. 1441 01:19:59,111 --> 01:20:01,660 With Jaws, you can take a ferry ride, 1442 01:20:01,764 --> 01:20:04,290 and you'll step off the ferry and you are in Amity. 1443 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,233 It has really not changed in 30 years. 1444 01:20:17,513 --> 01:20:20,255 I do know that people come here on a regular basis. 1445 01:20:20,366 --> 01:20:23,518 Jaws questions are probably some of the top questions we get 1446 01:20:23,686 --> 01:20:25,211 in our visitor information centers. 1447 01:20:25,854 --> 01:20:27,936 They ask us quite often 1448 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:29,040 if they can still see some of the locations 1449 01:20:29,108 --> 01:20:31,622 where scenes from the movie were filmed. 1450 01:20:31,694 --> 01:20:32,843 The answer is yes. 1451 01:20:33,329 --> 01:20:35,161 Some of the scenes include South Beach, 1452 01:20:35,230 --> 01:20:37,005 where the opening bonfire was done. 1453 01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:40,264 Amity Town Hall, which is actually Edgar town Town Hall, 1454 01:20:40,336 --> 01:20:42,145 right on Main Street in Edgar town. 1455 01:20:42,638 --> 01:20:44,697 Also the Chappaquiddick ferry. 1456 01:20:45,324 --> 01:20:48,066 It is a very small ferry that takes you between 1457 01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,073 Edgar town and its island, which is Chappaquiddick. 1458 01:20:53,549 --> 01:20:55,813 At the Grange Hall in West Tisbury, 1459 01:20:55,884 --> 01:20:58,285 the JAWSFEST Behind The Screams exhibit 1460 01:20:58,354 --> 01:21:00,721 is drawing hundreds of islanders and fans. 1461 01:21:02,408 --> 01:21:04,035 Contributed by private collectors, 1462 01:21:04,143 --> 01:21:06,828 these artifacts of Jaws have returned to the island 1463 01:21:06,929 --> 01:21:09,193 for the first time in decades. 1464 01:21:09,264 --> 01:21:11,847 Prop collecting has become a really big business in recent years, 1465 01:21:11,934 --> 01:21:12,934 thanks to the Internet. 1466 01:21:13,001 --> 01:21:15,095 It's easy for people to find props 1467 01:21:15,187 --> 01:21:17,201 from recent films all over the place. 1468 01:21:17,272 --> 01:21:20,469 It's very difficult to find props from classic films, 1469 01:21:20,542 --> 01:21:22,158 especially a film like Jaws. 1470 01:21:23,212 --> 01:21:26,204 I got into Jaws when I was about five years old. 1471 01:21:26,281 --> 01:21:28,830 One of the first props I ever had was a harpoon gun. 1472 01:21:29,284 --> 01:21:32,049 And if you're five years old and you have the harpoon gun, 1473 01:21:32,121 --> 01:21:35,853 of course, you need the barrels and the tank and the list goes on and on. 1474 01:21:36,325 --> 01:21:38,703 I spent 30 years of my life tracking this stuff down. 1475 01:21:38,811 --> 01:21:42,122 And I think I did a pretty good job, considering I found out 1476 01:21:42,231 --> 01:21:45,075 that I probably have one of the largest collections in the world. 1477 01:21:52,858 --> 01:21:55,134 And whatever happened to the ultimate Jaws prop? 1478 01:21:55,661 --> 01:21:57,777 Quint's trusty fishing boat, the Orca, 1479 01:21:58,230 --> 01:22:02,315 which served as a floating set for nearly four months of shooting at sea. 1480 01:22:03,419 --> 01:22:05,717 Well, I had a good souvenir. I had the Orca for a while. 1481 01:22:05,788 --> 01:22:08,200 I had the Orca shipped back to Universal Studios. 1482 01:22:08,307 --> 01:22:10,036 We put it on the tour, in the back lot. 1483 01:22:10,142 --> 01:22:12,270 And every once in a while, |'cl go up in my little electric cart, 1484 01:22:12,361 --> 01:22:13,954 and I'd visit the Orca, by myself. 1485 01:22:14,062 --> 01:22:15,461 I'd look around and make sure no tourists are around, 1486 01:22:15,531 --> 01:22:16,646 and nobody can see me. 1487 01:22:16,732 --> 01:22:19,895 And I would just sit inside the pilot house, 1488 01:22:19,968 --> 01:22:22,050 or I would sit in one of the cabins, right. 1489 01:22:22,154 --> 01:22:25,283 Walk down those few steps to where all the life jackets were 1490 01:22:25,374 --> 01:22:27,957 just hanging, dripping, when the boat began to sink. 1491 01:22:28,060 --> 01:22:30,609 And I would just kind of reminisce and kind of give thanks that 1492 01:22:30,712 --> 01:22:32,612 that movie sort of launched my career, 1493 01:22:32,714 --> 01:22:35,661 but I would go there alone, and spend time on it 1494 01:22:35,751 --> 01:22:36,751 and didn't tell anybody. 1495 01:22:36,819 --> 01:22:39,038 Then one day, about six months later, 1496 01:22:39,138 --> 01:22:41,914 I went for another journey back in time, down memory lane. 1497 01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:43,651 The boat was gone. 1498 01:22:43,759 --> 01:22:46,285 And I called up the head of the back lot, 1499 01:22:46,361 --> 01:22:47,658 and I said, "What happened to the Orca?" 1500 01:22:47,729 --> 01:22:49,458 He said, "Well, it was just rotting there. 1501 01:22:49,565 --> 01:22:52,865 "So, we took an ax and took a couple of chainsaws, 1502 01:22:52,935 --> 01:22:56,462 "and we cut it up for timber. We shipped it out." 1503 01:22:57,089 --> 01:23:00,605 And I went nuts. I went nuts. 1504 01:23:00,676 --> 01:23:02,303 I feel very bad about all the things I said 1505 01:23:02,377 --> 01:23:03,936 to that poor man who took my phone call. 1506 01:23:04,012 --> 01:23:07,380 But I was just beside myself. They had destroyed this. 1507 01:23:07,483 --> 01:23:11,386 This piece of wood, originally called the Warlock, by the way. 1508 01:23:11,487 --> 01:23:13,046 It was a real boat called the Warlock, 1509 01:23:13,121 --> 01:23:15,419 and we painted that over it, a weird omen, 1510 01:23:15,491 --> 01:23:17,368 and called it the Orca. 1511 01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:20,754 And the fact that the boat was no longer in existence, 1512 01:23:20,863 --> 01:23:22,228 it had died, you know? 1513 01:23:22,865 --> 01:23:25,527 And it was just the strangest feeling for me, 1514 01:23:25,601 --> 01:23:27,228 but in a way it was good for me, 1515 01:23:27,319 --> 01:23:28,912 because it cut the umbilical cord 1516 01:23:29,021 --> 01:23:31,706 that was joining me to some of my worst memories 1517 01:23:31,773 --> 01:23:34,014 about filming that movie. 1518 01:23:34,193 --> 01:23:36,992 And it kind of freed me when they broke the boat into many pieces. 1519 01:23:37,079 --> 01:23:39,912 But I did recover both twin screws, 1520 01:23:39,982 --> 01:23:42,781 I got the propeller blades back, 1521 01:23:43,252 --> 01:23:46,051 and I got the pilot wheel. 1522 01:23:48,874 --> 01:23:50,456 The Orca is a cast member. 1523 01:23:50,526 --> 01:23:53,461 And what a lot of people don't realize is that 1524 01:23:53,529 --> 01:23:59,343 Joe Alves built an exact replica on pontoons, 1525 01:24:00,152 --> 01:24:03,144 which was affectionately called the Orca II. 1526 01:24:04,356 --> 01:24:07,223 The Orca II, a fiberglass stunt double, 1527 01:24:07,326 --> 01:24:10,011 that was designed to sink and re-emerge on command, 1528 01:24:10,078 --> 01:24:11,705 has remained on the Vineyard. 1529 01:24:12,915 --> 01:24:14,997 Islander and Jaws boat wrangler, 1530 01:24:15,083 --> 01:24:17,802 Lynn Murphy, has kept her on a shoreline in Menemsha 1531 01:24:17,903 --> 01:24:19,598 since filming completed. 1532 01:24:19,805 --> 01:24:21,864 When they clean up after a movie, 1533 01:24:21,974 --> 01:24:24,022 they gotta pick up their junk and clear it out. 1534 01:24:24,092 --> 01:24:26,288 They said, "Well, we gotta get rid of this stuff." 1535 01:24:26,378 --> 01:24:28,187 So, I bought the Orca. 1536 01:24:28,297 --> 01:24:30,095 I looked it over and there was lumber 1537 01:24:30,198 --> 01:24:32,826 and things in the special effects barge, 1538 01:24:32,935 --> 01:24:34,380 and I wasn't sure just exactly how 1539 01:24:34,469 --> 01:24:35,868 I was gonna use it at the time, 1540 01:24:35,938 --> 01:24:37,656 but I wasn't gonna let it go to the dump. 1541 01:24:40,259 --> 01:24:43,604 Yeah, you can see the mechanism that was under the Orca. 1542 01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:45,841 You see all that? That was never a boat. 1543 01:24:46,298 --> 01:24:47,413 There was never a bottom. 1544 01:24:48,483 --> 01:24:50,884 The Orca ||'s resting site has served 1545 01:24:50,953 --> 01:24:53,365 as sort of a holy grail destination 1546 01:24:53,472 --> 01:24:55,463 for fans who've made pilgrimages 1547 01:24:55,574 --> 01:24:57,520 to the Vineyard throughout the years. 1548 01:24:58,043 --> 01:25:02,162 Unfortunately, three decades of weather, tide and souvenir hunters 1549 01:25:02,230 --> 01:25:06,417 have stripped the boat down to little more than its fiberglass hull. 1550 01:25:06,585 --> 01:25:09,532 People started to realize what all this stuff was, 1551 01:25:09,605 --> 01:25:13,769 and over the years, there'd be a porthole missing. 1552 01:25:14,693 --> 01:25:19,711 We had several of the balsa wood stems and they'd disappear, 1553 01:25:19,781 --> 01:25:23,331 and then the flying bridge came off, and so on and so forth. 1554 01:25:23,435 --> 01:25:26,985 As if the sand wasn't bad enough, guys, I got pricker bushes now. 1555 01:25:27,139 --> 01:25:28,664 I'm a real fan, huh? 1556 01:25:29,358 --> 01:25:30,655 Trespassing is forbidden, 1557 01:25:30,726 --> 01:25:33,969 and the marshy terrain surrounding it is quite hazardous. 1558 01:25:35,347 --> 01:25:38,874 But none of that has deterred the more tenacious and adventurous fans 1559 01:25:38,984 --> 01:25:40,884 from seeking to get an up close look. 1560 01:25:40,986 --> 01:25:44,513 I've watched this boat sink more times than I could tell you. 1561 01:25:44,623 --> 01:25:47,456 It's kind of nice to see it, but we gotta get out of here. 1562 01:25:48,210 --> 01:25:49,257 This is private property. 1563 01:25:49,378 --> 01:25:50,675 Explain what we're doing here. 1564 01:25:50,746 --> 01:25:53,625 I am one of three complete idiots. 1565 01:25:54,366 --> 01:25:58,428 Out here freezing in the middle of the night looking for the Orca II. 1566 01:25:58,637 --> 01:26:00,856 This is it. Look at this thing. 1567 01:26:03,592 --> 01:26:06,584 Today virtually nothing remains of the Orca II. 1568 01:26:06,662 --> 01:26:08,494 This is the end of the Orca. 1569 01:26:08,563 --> 01:26:10,827 And this is the only thing that we have left of her. 1570 01:26:10,932 --> 01:26:14,197 We decided we'd take her home before she was all gone. 1571 01:26:14,403 --> 01:26:18,567 They were selling her for $100 a six-inch square on eBay. 1572 01:26:21,610 --> 01:26:24,489 Finally, whatever became of Bruce, himself? 1573 01:26:25,681 --> 01:26:27,775 AH of the mechanical sharks used for Jaws 1574 01:26:27,849 --> 01:26:31,251 were returned to the back lot of Universal Studios in Hollywood, 1575 01:26:31,319 --> 01:26:34,835 where they were stored and eventually succumbed to the elements. 1576 01:26:36,425 --> 01:26:39,110 Throughout the span of the Jaws franchise, 1577 01:26:39,211 --> 01:26:41,578 there have been four distinct incarnations 1578 01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:42,772 of the mechanical shark. 1579 01:26:43,231 --> 01:26:45,165 Each one aiming to improve on looks 1580 01:26:45,233 --> 01:26:47,315 and functionality over its predecessor. 1581 01:26:48,053 --> 01:26:50,420 But for the truest fans, it is the original 1582 01:26:50,539 --> 01:26:53,008 with its trademark jowls that remains 1583 01:26:53,075 --> 01:26:55,487 the only true embodiment of Jaws. 1584 01:26:55,594 --> 01:26:58,154 What happened is that we needed a hinge, 1585 01:26:58,430 --> 01:27:02,128 so you got this jowl kind of thing that happens, 1586 01:27:02,234 --> 01:27:06,444 which I sort of hated, but I guess Jaws fans love it. 1587 01:27:06,872 --> 01:27:10,809 I guess the shark had a character that people got familiar with. 1588 01:27:12,411 --> 01:27:16,188 Though he's been replaced by a dissimilar shark in recent years, 1589 01:27:16,264 --> 01:27:19,609 Universal Studios, Hollywood, once showcased this casting 1590 01:27:19,718 --> 01:27:24,269 from the original Bruce mold as a photo op for visitors to the park. 1591 01:27:25,307 --> 01:27:28,322 Today, he remains the last copy from that mold, 1592 01:27:28,427 --> 01:27:32,989 but has since been relegated to a junkyard in San Fernando Valley. 1593 01:27:34,282 --> 01:27:37,525 Universal Studios, with locations in Hollywood, 1594 01:27:37,636 --> 01:27:40,048 Orlando and Osaka, Japan, 1595 01:27:40,122 --> 01:27:43,103 has kept their attractions up to date throughout the years. 1596 01:27:43,575 --> 01:27:44,804 How many of you saw the film Jaws? 1597 01:27:44,910 --> 01:27:48,369 But the lasting popularity of Hollywood's model blockbuster 1598 01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:50,858 has assured it an enduring place 1599 01:27:50,932 --> 01:27:53,299 in all three theme parks to this day. 1600 01:27:58,457 --> 01:28:01,438 Our shark, which has been here since the mid-'70s, 1601 01:28:01,510 --> 01:28:05,094 works a heck of a lot better than the shark in the movie ever worked. 1602 01:28:05,197 --> 01:28:08,758 But the reason I think it rates so highly still to this day 1603 01:28:08,867 --> 01:28:12,132 is because Steven was so good at using the camera as the shark. 1604 01:28:12,237 --> 01:28:15,787 So, 40 minutes into the movie when you finally see the shark, 1605 01:28:15,874 --> 01:28:17,456 you're so terrified of it. 1606 01:28:17,526 --> 01:28:19,187 And I think that's still in people's minds 1607 01:28:19,261 --> 01:28:20,843 when they come here and ride this attraction, 1608 01:28:20,946 --> 01:28:23,040 they're terrified of the shark before they ever see it. 1609 01:28:23,148 --> 01:28:26,140 So, we don't have to do a whole lot to make people scream. 1610 01:28:26,251 --> 01:28:27,251 So, it's great. 1611 01:28:28,887 --> 01:28:31,652 The back lot shark itself has even made cameos 1612 01:28:31,740 --> 01:28:34,687 in other Universal productions throughout the years, 1613 01:28:34,793 --> 01:28:37,228 usually being played for laughs. 1614 01:28:37,329 --> 01:28:39,548 But whether for humor or for screams, 1615 01:28:39,631 --> 01:28:42,544 one thing is certain, at Universal Studios, 1616 01:28:42,634 --> 01:28:47,117 even after 30 years, the shark is definitely still working. 1617 01:28:54,830 --> 01:28:58,767 For a brief moment in time, life seemed to imitate art. 1618 01:28:59,050 --> 01:29:00,734 As the waters of Martha's Vineyard 1619 01:29:00,836 --> 01:29:03,396 once again hosted the presence of a great white. 1620 01:29:03,939 --> 01:29:07,785 Only this time, the shark wasn't constructed from rubber and steel. 1621 01:29:08,059 --> 01:29:11,996 September 21 st, I'll never forget that date, 2004. 1622 01:29:12,063 --> 01:29:15,294 The big why is, is why that shark swam not only in shallow waters, 1623 01:29:15,367 --> 01:29:19,144 but way up into a very tight, shallow estuarine system. 1624 01:29:19,254 --> 01:29:22,372 What motivated that shark to get in there, we'll never know. 1625 01:29:22,474 --> 01:29:24,806 Shark! A shark! 1626 01:29:26,011 --> 01:29:28,105 When the great white surfaced in Jaws, 1627 01:29:28,179 --> 01:29:32,423 Amity Island had to call in Richard Dreyfuss, as ichthyologist Matt Hooper. 1628 01:29:32,634 --> 01:29:34,796 Matt Hooper. I'm from the Oceanographic Institute. 1629 01:29:35,804 --> 01:29:38,683 But the Vineyard has its own resident shark expert 1630 01:29:38,757 --> 01:29:42,637 in Greg Skomal of the Massachusetts Division of Marine Fisheries. 1631 01:29:43,278 --> 01:29:47,545 So many differences between 1975 and 2004. 1632 01:29:47,716 --> 01:29:50,925 And that's the fact that instead of all the townspeople going out 1633 01:29:51,286 --> 01:29:55,336 and trying to kill it with dynamite explosives and shotguns, 1634 01:29:55,407 --> 01:29:59,037 spear guns, you name it, the public kind of embraced this animal. 1635 01:29:59,110 --> 01:30:01,579 And the cry I got, that far outweighed the negative, 1636 01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,923 was this positive, "Quit messing around and save that shark." 1637 01:30:09,421 --> 01:30:14,791 That we can learn to be concerned for this animal that Jaws taught us to dread 1638 01:30:14,859 --> 01:30:18,159 and get past that mythology, to look behind the Jaws 1639 01:30:18,229 --> 01:30:20,072 and look at this wild animal that's in need of help, 1640 01:30:20,165 --> 01:30:22,213 and draw on our humanity to rescue it, 1641 01:30:22,317 --> 01:30:24,285 I think is a step in the right direction. 1642 01:30:25,487 --> 01:30:27,581 And that step is no small one. 1643 01:30:28,440 --> 01:30:32,775 Despite infrequent, but highly publicized shark attacks in recent years, 1644 01:30:33,328 --> 01:30:35,695 the general public's attitude towards sharks 1645 01:30:35,780 --> 01:30:38,613 has indeed come a long way since the '70s. 1646 01:30:39,501 --> 01:30:41,981 One of the problems of creating a perfect villain, 1647 01:30:42,070 --> 01:30:44,937 a machine that kills and eats and makes little sharks, 1648 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,066 is that the public quickly subscribes 1649 01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:52,995 to that easy view of the shark as dreadful enemies. 1650 01:30:53,081 --> 01:30:58,713 Jaws and the sequels, unfortunately, made them easy to dislike. 1651 01:30:58,887 --> 01:31:01,436 It made people very conscious of sharks, 1652 01:31:01,906 --> 01:31:07,094 and we then realized that we had to put the facts right, 1653 01:31:07,178 --> 01:31:11,160 to really convince people that sharks are to be respected, 1654 01:31:11,533 --> 01:31:14,013 and we must learn to live with them in the ocean. 1655 01:31:14,102 --> 01:31:15,786 The great white shark, for instance, 1656 01:31:15,854 --> 01:31:18,539 has been protected for several years now, 1657 01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,268 and the numbers are slowly coming back. 1658 01:31:21,643 --> 01:31:24,294 Over the last 30 years, the science has evolved, 1659 01:31:24,396 --> 01:31:27,923 so we understand that sharks have a place in the ocean, 1660 01:31:28,299 --> 01:31:29,596 and it's an important place. 1661 01:31:30,402 --> 01:31:32,962 Environmental groups like Environmental Defense, 1662 01:31:33,038 --> 01:31:35,154 the New England Aquarium and others with whom I work, 1663 01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,834 have found that the association with Jaws 1664 01:31:37,942 --> 01:31:42,311 draws people to at least listen to what I have to say. 1665 01:31:42,764 --> 01:31:45,882 So, it has given me the opportunity to have a third career, 1666 01:31:45,950 --> 01:31:48,248 in the sense of being a spokesman 1667 01:31:48,319 --> 01:31:51,766 for the environment and for the oceans. 1668 01:31:52,957 --> 01:31:55,585 Look at that animal, will you, please? 1669 01:31:56,678 --> 01:31:58,669 He is just magnificent. 1670 01:31:59,047 --> 01:32:01,744 One of the great freedoms that Jaws gave me was to 1671 01:32:01,850 --> 01:32:04,376 learn about the ocean that I had written about, 1672 01:32:04,486 --> 01:32:06,545 so that for the past 30 years, 1673 01:32:06,638 --> 01:32:09,437 Wendy and the kids and I have been able to go around the world, 1674 01:32:09,507 --> 01:32:12,340 diving with all of these animals of different kinds, 1675 01:32:12,444 --> 01:32:15,960 learning the problems that they face, the truth about them, 1676 01:32:16,064 --> 01:32:18,544 having to do with sharks, for instance. 1677 01:32:18,616 --> 01:32:21,711 If we can harness all the interest in Jaws, 1678 01:32:21,803 --> 01:32:24,716 and from the fans of Jaws, to the enthusiasts of Jaws, 1679 01:32:24,806 --> 01:32:28,253 to the people who see it and who learn from it and who are liking it, 1680 01:32:28,359 --> 01:32:30,509 into a protection movement for the oceans, 1681 01:32:30,612 --> 01:32:32,706 we'd have a massive force going. 1682 01:32:40,305 --> 01:32:45,744 The gilt-edged bite of Jaws on so many of today's pop culture artisans 1683 01:32:45,827 --> 01:32:49,104 speaks powerfully to the stamina of this single film. 1684 01:32:49,581 --> 01:32:52,141 Its extraordinary shelf life has allowed it to function 1685 01:32:52,217 --> 01:32:54,413 as sort of a creative well 1686 01:32:54,486 --> 01:32:58,480 from which filmmakers may draw inspiration and innovation. 1687 01:32:58,923 --> 01:33:01,551 A well that never seems to run dry. 1688 01:33:03,845 --> 01:33:07,475 Anyone who's around my age, who's in this movie business, 1689 01:33:07,749 --> 01:33:11,379 always kind of cites Jaws as the first movie they remember seeing, 1690 01:33:11,486 --> 01:33:14,217 or the movie that made them want to get into movies, 1691 01:33:14,305 --> 01:33:16,501 or started their love affair with movies. 1692 01:33:16,608 --> 01:33:17,939 I still remember the first time 1693 01:33:18,042 --> 01:33:20,568 that I saw Jaws in the theater and how it affected me. 1694 01:33:20,678 --> 01:33:21,975 I walked away thinking, 1695 01:33:22,046 --> 01:33:25,129 "I wanna learn how to do that when I get older." 1696 01:33:25,300 --> 01:33:30,682 And it absolutely changed the direction of my life in one night. 1697 01:33:30,789 --> 01:33:33,668 I'm always really grateful 1698 01:33:33,775 --> 01:33:36,517 when anybody, especially a young director, comes over to me and tells me 1699 01:33:36,594 --> 01:33:40,155 that they were in some way strangely influenced by Jaws, 1700 01:33:40,248 --> 01:33:42,330 and I say, "Oh, great. You're part of our club, then. 1701 01:33:42,784 --> 01:33:43,797 "You got it." 1702 01:33:43,885 --> 01:33:48,334 I aggressively pursued Jaws as a way to learn from the master. 1703 01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,249 I saw the light, I saw Jaws and I saw 1704 01:33:51,643 --> 01:33:54,385 that's the promised land up there. 1705 01:33:54,496 --> 01:33:55,496 That's what you have to aim for. 1706 01:33:55,597 --> 01:33:56,940 It affected me in film making 1707 01:33:57,015 --> 01:33:59,757 in just wanting to make movies that were larger than life. 1708 01:33:59,868 --> 01:34:02,644 Certainly, I think it was one of those big films of my life 1709 01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:06,167 that inspired me eventually to wanna go on to be a filmmaker. 1710 01:34:06,357 --> 01:34:08,075 I think that anyone that wants to make 1711 01:34:08,176 --> 01:34:11,237 big Hollywood blockbuster movies is certainly inspired by Jaws. 1712 01:34:11,346 --> 01:34:14,714 Probably every film I make, I'm always evoking Jaws, one way or another. 1713 01:34:14,816 --> 01:34:18,025 It's like one of the basic films that drives me as a filmmaker. 1714 01:34:18,102 --> 01:34:21,197 I've worked with Steven on three projects, 1715 01:34:21,289 --> 01:34:23,769 and I still stand next to him and every time I look at him, I go, 1716 01:34:23,842 --> 01:34:25,571 "That's the guy that did Jaws. 1717 01:34:25,643 --> 01:34:27,327 "That's the reason why I'm here." 1718 01:34:27,412 --> 01:34:31,781 I hope the picture has inspired a lot of filmmakers. 1719 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:37,200 I mean, that's another added benefit to this whole miraculous event. 1720 01:34:37,755 --> 01:34:39,416 The hardest thing in the film business 1721 01:34:39,490 --> 01:34:44,337 is not so much to do something that's usually successful. 1722 01:34:44,429 --> 01:34:48,115 Harder than that is to create something that has longevity. 1723 01:34:48,216 --> 01:34:50,651 There've been a lot of great pictures made. 1724 01:34:50,752 --> 01:34:53,767 But one of the tests is the test of time. 1725 01:34:53,872 --> 01:34:58,673 The fact that that film and the music that went with it 1726 01:34:58,776 --> 01:35:00,710 lingers in people's minds 1727 01:35:00,778 --> 01:35:04,009 is a lot of things. It's a great compliment to me, 1728 01:35:04,082 --> 01:35:07,074 and to Steven Spielberg, and the people who wrote it and acted it and all of that. 1729 01:35:07,151 --> 01:35:09,984 It's quite an amazing thing for an actor, 1730 01:35:10,054 --> 01:35:14,423 who was really an insignificant player in the scheme of things, 1731 01:35:14,626 --> 01:35:21,145 to have a lifelong tale, of a fishtail behind me. 1732 01:35:21,249 --> 01:35:24,264 Those first instincts that David and I had 1733 01:35:24,352 --> 01:35:29,006 when we read the manuscript by Peter Benchley proved correct. 1734 01:35:29,073 --> 01:35:33,169 And it feels good to know that it has lasted all this time. 1735 01:35:33,444 --> 01:35:36,527 Almost every week or month, 1736 01:35:36,631 --> 01:35:40,215 somebody who knows that I was connected with the production 1737 01:35:40,285 --> 01:35:42,162 will tell me where they were. 1738 01:35:42,270 --> 01:35:46,537 It's like the beginning of World War II, the death of Kennedy. 1739 01:35:47,909 --> 01:35:50,276 The emotional experience provided by Jaws 1740 01:35:51,346 --> 01:35:54,225 will go on and on and on and on forever. 1741 01:35:54,299 --> 01:35:56,347 I mean, who doesn't like Bambi? 1742 01:35:56,918 --> 01:35:59,910 Bambi goes on forever. Snow White goes on forever. 1743 01:36:00,021 --> 01:36:01,830 Jaws goes on forever. 1744 01:36:20,742 --> 01:36:24,269 I certainly think that all of us went through a survival adventure together, 1745 01:36:24,412 --> 01:36:26,471 the entire crew and cast and myself. 1746 01:36:26,581 --> 01:36:30,791 And I have very good memories in many respects to the making of Jaws, 1747 01:36:30,952 --> 01:36:32,761 but I have many more bad memories. 1748 01:36:33,221 --> 01:36:36,703 Memories that still haunt my nightmares, still wake me up sweating, 1749 01:36:36,774 --> 01:36:39,323 but the bottom line is I'm grateful. 1750 01:36:39,594 --> 01:36:42,825 Because I went through a kind of baptism of water. 1751 01:36:42,914 --> 01:36:48,398 And I came out of it, not only alive, which was my main goal, 1752 01:36:48,503 --> 01:36:51,347 and getting through Jaws was to come out of it in one piece, 1753 01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:53,248 but I came out of it with a career. 1754 01:36:53,524 --> 01:36:55,549 And I will forever be grateful, 1755 01:36:55,626 --> 01:36:58,994 no matter what I tell you about those nightmares, 1756 01:36:59,163 --> 01:37:01,825 to the fact that the dream from the nightmare was 1757 01:37:01,933 --> 01:37:04,777 that I got a chance to make any movie I wanted to make. 1758 01:37:04,986 --> 01:37:07,899 And that has continued to this day. 1759 01:37:10,808 --> 01:37:16,326 Time will only tell when Jaws will fade from the collective memory. 1760 01:37:16,848 --> 01:37:19,362 But I think as long as there are sharks in the sea, 1761 01:37:19,467 --> 01:37:22,994 and as long as there are oceans and bodies of water, 1762 01:37:23,187 --> 01:37:26,532 as long as there are kids with imagination 1763 01:37:26,641 --> 01:37:29,110 who like to torture and scare each other, 1764 01:37:29,193 --> 01:37:32,493 Jaws is going to be probably around for a long time. 1765 01:40:55,132 --> 01:40:58,375 The shark is working. Repeat. The shark is still working. 1766 01:40:58,486 --> 01:41:01,012 Repeat. The shark is still working. 157563

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