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Marker.
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Stand by. Background action.
Yeah.
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Action.
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Action!
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Okay, hang on.
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The shark is networking.
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We're having a little
problem with the shark here.
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Bob, we need you.
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The shark is not working.
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Roy?
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Has anybody seen Roy?
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The shark is not working.
Repeat, the shark is not working.
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Can't get it to work at all.
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AH right, let's try this again.
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Okay, rolling.
Action!
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The shark is working again.
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Joe here, the boat is sinking.
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Three decades after the release
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of what many consider to be
the original summer blockbuster,
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stories of the hardships
experienced during the filming of Jaws
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are the stuff of Hollywood legend.
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It filled me up with stories that
I could dine out on for 35 years.
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If I wanted to, I could just hold
back any but the stories from Jaws.
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Through accounts
like Carl Gottlieb's The Jaws Log
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and numerous television
documentaries, multitudes of movie buffs
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are familiar with those famous
tales of the shark not working.
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We were all groping in the
dark for a way to tell the story,
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because the shark wasn't
working. It kept breaking down.
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It is as if God created the devil
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and gave him jaws.
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Jaws, one of
Hollywood's little movies that couldn't,
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emerged as a record-shattering
box office juggernaut,
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then an Oscar contender.
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And today, stands as a
critically-acclaimed enduring classic
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that after all this time shows
no sign of losing its bite.
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What we are dealing with here is a
perfect engine, an eating machine.
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Michael, did you hear your
father? Out of the water now!
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Opening the beaches on the Fourth
of July is like ringing the dinner bell.
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This shark, swallow you whole.
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My heart was beating so fast.
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I didn't know, as an adult, I
could get that soared anymore.
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One thing, it's a real thing,
not a monster from outer space.
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Sharks are real.
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The film sparked a
pop cultural obsession with sharks
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and heightened public
awareness of real life shark attacks.
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And though numerous copycat
pictures have come and gone,
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Jaws still remains that
singular cinematic experience
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that keeps bathers close to the shore.
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The movie itself is what
first put the terror into me.
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Every time you felt a bit
of seaweed brush your foot,
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you would have been thinking about it.
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I still get a little nervous in water,
being like, "Is there a shark in here?"
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Not only did it impact
the way movies are made and marketed,
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but it maintains a legacy
kept alive by legions of fans,
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artists and even successful filmmakers,
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who cite this picture
as a defining life experience,
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helping to make them who they are today.
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Anyone who's around my age,
who is in this movie business,
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always cites Jaws as the first movie
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that made them want to get into movies.
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It's therefore no
wonder that after 30 years,
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the shark is indeed still working.
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When I was writing Jaws,
I knew that it could not be a success.
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It couldn't be a success as a novel
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because, first of all, it's a first
novel and nobody reads first novels.
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It was a first novel about a fish,
so give me a break, who cares?
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I knew they couldn't make a movie about it
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because the technology
was nowhere near good enough
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to make a great white shark, and I
knew you couldn't catch and train one.
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So I had no sense that this
was going to be a success
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beyond just being published, until
the movie had been open for a while
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and the paperback was
selling millions of copies.
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And even then, who would've guessed
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that down the road it would
have had any currency?
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I wouldn't have.
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Making Jaws,
still looking back 30 years ago,
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was the toughest film making production
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experience I've ever encountered.
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Nothing's ever come close
to the production difficulties
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of shooting an actual
special effects movie,
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not a digital effects movie,
that was many, many years later,
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but a mechanical effects movie,
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not in a tank somewhere in Malta
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or some safe tank somewhere in Florida,
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but in the actual Atlantic Ocean.
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We must've been complete idiots
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to have even expected to have an easy ride
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in the middle of the ocean making a movie.
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The in gathering
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of all the mystical tribes
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and shamans and crazy
experts that floated in
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under the banner of Universal
to make this movie
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had overlooked that it was the first
film ever really shot on the ocean.
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They hadn't really known that before.
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The approach that Spielberg had then,
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remember that he was fresh then,
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he was new and young,
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and he insisted that this
movie be shot on the ocean,
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and that alone was an innovation,
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because Universal at the time
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would normally have gone to
a back lake and shot on the lot,
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and he wouldn't let them.
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We all gained a tremendous
respect for the sea, for nature,
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for currents and tides, for waves,
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for rain and sun and overexposure to both.
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We started shooting on the first of May,
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and we were supposed
to shoot until June 28th.
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If you're really quiet, you
could hear someone laughing.
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The movie
went on for a total of seven months,
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something like that, almost a year.
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If you figured when
the first crew got there
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and the first special effects people,
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then the actors came and then
it just went on and on and on.
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And we thought we were gonna
be there for the rest of our lives.
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It's not the time it takes to
take the take that takes the time,
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it's the time it takes between the takes
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that takes the time that takes the take.
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If you see, conditions
have been so impossible
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that it's really hurt our schedule and
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put a general somber note
behind the scenes
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on the production, 'cause we've
been here 105 shooting days
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and we were only scheduled
for something like 65 or 70.
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And they started the shoot
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without a cast, without a
script and without a shark.
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And that was after May 1st.
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And we're going and we're shooting.
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What are we shooting? I
don't know, what are we doing?
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I know because he'll be so energetic,
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and he'll be screaming and yelling,
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"It's a great white, it's a
great white. I knew it all along."
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And it's only…
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It's hard to imagine a world
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where Steven Spielberg
isn't a household name.
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But in 1974, it was viewed
by some as a roll of the dice
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to put the weight of such a
mammoth project on the shoulders
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of a 27-year-old relative newcomer.
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A director, who had
only just completed work
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on his first theatrical release,
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The Sugar land Express.
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I remember a reporter one time asking me,
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"Mr. Zanuck, are you trying to
enhance this young director's career?"
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And I said, "No, just the opposite.
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"I'm trying to enhance my career."
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Probably nobody else in
the world knew at that time
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better than I, who was every
day on The Sugar land Express,
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how good this guy was
and how he could tell a story.
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Steven Spielberg story
boarded the actual scenes
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and then shot them.
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And the studio production department
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wanted to know every storyboard there was.
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They didn't know every
storyboard there was.
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We had a bunch of 'em
that we never told 'em about
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that we would sneak and shoot.
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It was a guerrilla movie.
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I like to think of it
as a big independent movie
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masquerading as a big studio movie.
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It was the film's title
monster, a 12-ton hydraulic shark,
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that would become
affectionately known as Bruce,
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that plagued Spielberg
and the Jaws production team
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with their most daunting set
of complications.
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Once the idea
was set that we're gonna build it,
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then we had to determine the size,
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and I was working off of a scale model
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of my research of a shark that
was about 12 and a half feet,
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and so I just doubled it
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because I felt that as
the sharks got bigger,
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they got girthier, and
they weren't so attractive.
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So, I figured a 25-foot shark
would be the proper size.
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Don Chandler was a studio sculptor.
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He started on the outside,
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a big clay model,
we were gonna make a mold.
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And so we were making the
skeleton out of Permali tubing,
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both things at once,
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and hoping that they would fit
together perfectly, which they did.
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My part that they gave
me, mostly, was the cosmetics of the thing
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and the skin and
the looks of it and all that,
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and when something mechanical
would break in the shark,
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the shark's head would turn
over, and of course it would rip
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and then they would bring it
back to me and say, "Fix it."
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Then we'd have to patch the whole shark.
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Veteran effects supervisor, Bob Mattey,
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who had created the famous squid
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from Disney's
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea,
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was mastermind of the
shark's mechanical workings.
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You got the men down there with the camera
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over by the end down
by the fin. I'm not sure.
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Bob Mattey, my
mentor, was the greatest guy in the world.
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He loved… I mean, he loved what he did.
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I just fell in right behind
Bob. He was like my hero.
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There was never ever a down day.
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I mean, he was pretty much tireless.
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And he always looked at the up side.
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It was a good thing, too,
as Mattey and his team promptly discovered
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that Jaws would produce
technical challenges
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unlike any movie previously
attempted by Hollywood.
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The condition of the shark
was the ultimate story,
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that if the shark didn't work,
what do you do?
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When your lead actor, which is
this 12 ton marvel, is recalcitrant.
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Well, like any recalcitrant actor,
you shoot around him or her.
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Not that a recalcitrant shark
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was always to blame for
setbacks during the shoot.
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For a Hollywood film crew with
little or no maritime experience,
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finding their sea legs
didn't always come easily.
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It didn't take long for one
thing to become perfectly clear.
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Making Jaws, whether
by land or sea or foam,
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would be no day at the beach.
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We were starting
to shoot all of the land scenes
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and running out of them very quickly.
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And Carl Gottlieb and Roy,
David and Dick, producers,
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Steven, myself and
Verna Fields and her son,
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would meet every day at Steven's bungalow
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and try to make sense of the
next day's work or the days after.
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With no shark to
shoot and an ever inflating budget,
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they made the very most of these meetings.
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The logistical setbacks
allowed Spielberg and his actors
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to become a little repertory
company, free to invent and improvise.
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The thing I remember most
is, Steven, obviously,
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allowing the actors to ad lib,
because a lot of this was ad lib.
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The, "You wanna get drunk and
fool around?" The "coffee."
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I mean, all these… "Dead
doll's eyes," that's my favorite.
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I think that's one of the things
that was so extraordinary.
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The scene with
the little boy at the table,
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after Roy's had a particularly hard day,
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we were in between shots
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and I was like this at the table,
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and then that little kid was like this.
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Just started with our hands
underneath our chin.
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Then he'd do this and I'd do that.
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Then I went… And he went…
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And he made a monster face
and I kind of went like that…
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And I went out to the kitchen in
the house and I said to Steven,
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"Come here. Come here.
Watch this."
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And I went through all the motions
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and the little guy copied right after me.
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He said, "Okay," and he brought
the camera in and we did that scene.
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Hello?
Get out of here.
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With the summer season fully upon them,
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frustration began to mount
amidst the already exhausted crew
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as discouraging reports of the
film's malfunctioning antagonist
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continued to spread across the island.
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It's not the
first movie with the radio mics,
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it was the first one that I was aware of
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that had all these radio mics
all over the island.
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So every day, you could hear this.
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The shark is not working.
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Repeat. The shark is not
working.
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Repeat. The shark…
Not working.
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And that was the constant refrain,
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because every time they tried
to test the shark,
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it would come up like…
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Or its eye would fall out.
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I have a saying in films that
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film companies import their problems,
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they don't find them where they go.
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And in our case, we imported
our problem and that was the shark,
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and we didn't have enough
testing time on Bob Mattey's behalf.
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If we'd given him
the 15 weeks that it took
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to work the bugs out of the shark,
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it would've worked on cue.
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We were pioneers. That's
the best word I can think of,
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because nobody had ever taken on
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the Atlantic Ocean in small boats.
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No one had ever worked with
a mechanical shark
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of the sophistication of ours.
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We struggled like mad, but
the end justified the means.
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Then one day, you heard this…
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The shark
is working. Repeat, the shark is working.
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Repeat, the shark…
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What you see in the finished picture
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is practically every frame of
usable footage of the shark.
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And down.
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Suits and all.
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One more time. Shark comes up,
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bites at the masts,
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snaps two, three times,
shaking their head,
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but always working its way into the masts.
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Okay, start it.
Okay, Roy? Action.
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Bring it in. Bring it in.
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And the last shot, before we all went back
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to Long Beach for another
month of shooting in California,
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was going to be the shot
of the shark blowing up.
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We were rigging the shark
to blow up and blow scrib
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and all kinds of stuff up into
the air, and they were loading it.
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And finally, the sun went down
and I'm shooting high speed
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and I said, "Steven, they're not
ready and I can't shoot high speed."
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Steven said, "You shoot it
in the morning."
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Steven went to the airport,
got onto the airplane,
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he was already packed, and left the
island. He was ready to go.
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I said, "Goodbye!
I'm going back to L.A."
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And I got into a motorboat,
sped back to the mainland.
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Steven and I were on a flight back to L-A.
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And I said, "So, who's…
How was the last shot?"
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You know, they blow up the…
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He saw, "They're doing it right now."
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I said, "They're doing it right
now, why aren't you there?"
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He goes…
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And I said, "Steven?"
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He said something like… He got word,
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he knew that they were gonna throw him in.
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So, he decided to just skip
out and not do the last shot.
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Not do the last blowing up
shot, yeah, not do that one,
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which became, by the way,
a tradition of Steven's.
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He never would do the
last shot of his movies,
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because he thought the crew
was always gonna do something.
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And he probably was right.
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Had I been on his crew, I would've.
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But it's become a tradition that
Steven never shoots his last shot.
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One day, I'm gonna use this information.
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With the production of the film completed
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and Benchley's book
already a raging success,
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the makers of Jaws braced themselves,
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hoping the fruit of their labor
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would live up to the reputation
of the novel that inspired it.
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Little did they realize
that their fish story
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was about to change the face of Hollywood.
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I couldn't really see beyond
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all of the screw ups
that were apparent to me
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and were more apparent than anything else.
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And so in my ignorance,
which is pure ignorance,
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I was saying, "This is
gonna be a disaster."
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And then we made this movie that
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crashed into people like a speeding truck.
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The book had become a best seller
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while we were shooting the picture.
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But still, no one had any
thought or even dared to think
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that it would become what it became.
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Part of it is
that, it was over-ambitious for the budget.
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The technology was not there, that
they had to use parts of their brain
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that you don't normally have to
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unless you're in desperate mode,
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and when an artist is pushed like that,
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amazing, one-of-a-kind things happen,
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and that's what happened in Jaws.
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It was just an
extraordinary, perfect creative storm.
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Who knew? Who knew?
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But you know, it's like
all of these phenomenons,
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they just happen.
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If you planned it, it would
never be a phenomenon.
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The film's groundbreaking ad campaign
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was highly instrumental in
its initial box office success.
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I think Jaws affected film
making in a lot of ways.
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That's when they first
started using television
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to really advertise movies.
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So, it made this huge opening,
and everybody went out to see it.
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The anticipation was
unbelievable. Unbelievable.
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No one had ever anticipated a movie
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much like that that I remember.
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I mean, it really did create the
sensation around the planet of,
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"All right, here it comes."
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There is a creature alive today
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who has survived millions
of years of evolution…
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Underscoring the TV
spots and theatrical trailers for Jaws
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was the familiar, but ominous voice talent
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of character actor and
voice artist, Percy Rodrigues.
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They had an idea of doing a
very high, horrifying delivery,
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which I disagreed with.
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And we discussed it.
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And finally, they came around
to the idea that I had in mind,
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that we would do it at a more
level, devastating presentation,
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rather than trying to ride over
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this terrifying visual that they had.
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I felt that I should go underneath
it and let the visual sell.
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It is as if God created the devil
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and gave him jaws.
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The level of
advertising was very high-pitched,
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and afterwards, they had people
afraid to go in the water for years.
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And I like to think that
I contributed to that fear.
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See it before you go swimming.
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Everyone who grew
up around that period knows the voice.
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He was the gateway for a lot
of people into the Jaws universe.
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He was like the weed to what
would become the crack of Jaws.
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It's just like you had to get through
Percy and Percy's dulcet tones
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that drew you into that movie and
then got you hooked in a big, bad way.
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Once Jaws premiered,
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it demonstrated just how
hooked moviegoers were
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and marked a decisive
turning point at the box office.
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The buzz generated by advanced screenings
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demanded that it
become the first movie ever
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to be released in over 400 theaters.
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And it could've been even more.
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When the screening
in Long Beach, California took place,
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Lew Wasserman, the chairman
of the board of Universal,
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asked Hy Martin, who
was the head of distribution,
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to cut back on the number of theaters.
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Hy said, "We've set
a record. We've got 600 theaters.
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"Ever since the Dallas preview,
387
00:21:58,868 --> 00:22:01,496
"I cannot stop the phone from ringing."
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00:22:01,704 --> 00:22:02,762
And Lew said,
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"Cut it in half."
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00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,670
And everybody was kind of
stunned, "Cut it in half? Why?"
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He said, "I want people
in Palm Springs, California
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"to have to come to Los
Angeles to see the movie."
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I don't think we thought
that we were releasing
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an "event movie."
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We thought we had this
very successful movie,
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we thought they should
be waiting to see it.
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My colleague, Lew Wasserman,
always thought that the best advertising
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was people standing in line.
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00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:35,893
Lew said, "I wanted this to
be something that you couldn't get into."
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He wasn't interested
in just taking the weekend.
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He wanted to take the summer,
and we took the summer.
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00:22:42,478 --> 00:22:45,129
When you opened in 400
theaters, it was different.
403
00:22:45,231 --> 00:22:48,314
You could play all summer,
and if you looked at the grosses,
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the grosses were constant.
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00:22:50,553 --> 00:22:55,753
Smoking lounge is sold out, seats
downstairs in the first seven rows only.
406
00:22:55,824 --> 00:22:58,293
When the
movie was out for weeks and months,
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00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:00,237
I would still be going to the movies.
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00:23:00,346 --> 00:23:03,031
Not to see a new movie,
but to see Jaws again.
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00:23:03,098 --> 00:23:07,399
And, "One for Jaws, " and
he'd look at me like, "Again?"
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It's like, "Dude,
just give me the ticket."
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They began to
see that the film could become an event
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and a marketing phenomenon.
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00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:18,337
Of course, nowadays,
the marketing of a film
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is more important than the film itself.
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00:23:20,482 --> 00:23:24,851
And I think we can attribute a
lot of that to the success of Jaws.
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It happened to work
on a very mainstream level
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00:23:27,323 --> 00:23:28,734
and a mass audience level,
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00:23:28,841 --> 00:23:30,718
but the movie itself
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was so incredibly solid and beyond solid,
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just exceptional from end to end,
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that when people throw
together their summer movies
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00:23:38,867 --> 00:23:41,393
and the eye candy stuff,
they just tend to forget that
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00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:43,972
that movie was a lot more
than just eye candy.
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00:23:44,406 --> 00:23:47,023
Although it is
credited with having started
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00:23:47,126 --> 00:23:49,709
the syndrome of summer blockbusters,
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00:23:49,778 --> 00:23:53,225
and mindless movies and all that stuff,
427
00:23:53,332 --> 00:23:57,246
the fact is that Jaws, and I
think many critics will agree,
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00:23:57,453 --> 00:24:01,981
was a fine movie of that
genre, which was very rare.
429
00:24:22,428 --> 00:24:25,841
Given its monstrous
success and critical acclaim,
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00:24:26,015 --> 00:24:28,256
Jaws was roundly expected to receive
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00:24:28,367 --> 00:24:30,995
the lion's share of Oscar
nominations for that year,
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00:24:31,737 --> 00:24:34,479
including Best Director
for Steven Spielberg.
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00:24:35,024 --> 00:24:38,824
But unfortunately, those high
expectations came up short.
434
00:24:39,712 --> 00:24:42,864
Oh, I didn't get it.
I didn't get it.
435
00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:47,297
I wasn't nominated.
I got beaten out by Fellini.
436
00:24:48,404 --> 00:24:51,032
Jaws did get
the nomination for Best Picture.
437
00:24:51,306 --> 00:24:52,455
Jaws.
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00:24:54,943 --> 00:24:56,877
Well, it's about time.
439
00:24:56,945 --> 00:24:58,674
But it was in light of this
440
00:24:58,764 --> 00:25:01,244
that some in the industry
thought it scandalous
441
00:25:01,316 --> 00:25:03,842
that Steven would be
overlooked for Best Director.
442
00:25:03,952 --> 00:25:06,296
Who made the picture?
Somebody's mother?
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00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:07,486
The director.
444
00:25:07,589 --> 00:25:08,636
This man made Jaws.
445
00:25:08,741 --> 00:25:11,085
Are you kidding? Who's
kidding who around here?
446
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,208
It's the biggest disappointment
for me, the whole Oscars.
447
00:25:13,312 --> 00:25:17,271
I thought Steven did a
brilliant job directing Jaws,
448
00:25:17,383 --> 00:25:19,215
and I have no idea what happened.
449
00:25:19,318 --> 00:25:21,537
It's the one thing
that I cannot comprehend yet
450
00:25:21,603 --> 00:25:25,062
in my head, how a best
picture can be nominated,
451
00:25:25,157 --> 00:25:28,366
and yet the director, who is
basically responsible for it,
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00:25:28,444 --> 00:25:30,173
does not get the nomination.
453
00:25:30,512 --> 00:25:33,743
But for the
27-year-old wunderkind director,
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there was no choice but to take his lumps.
455
00:25:35,818 --> 00:25:37,377
I'm suffering enough.
All right.
456
00:25:37,453 --> 00:25:38,818
We're suffering with you.
I'm suffering.
457
00:25:38,887 --> 00:25:40,252
We're suffering with you.
Cancel my day.
458
00:25:40,355 --> 00:25:41,355
Right, we're getting to it…
459
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,922
Although Jaws did
not receive the Oscar for Best Picture,
460
00:25:44,993 --> 00:25:48,657
it did bring home awards for
its remaining three nominations.
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00:25:48,731 --> 00:25:53,441
Best Sound, Best Editing
and Best Musical Score.
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00:25:55,003 --> 00:25:56,619
Throughout the rest of the year,
463
00:25:56,722 --> 00:26:00,033
Jaws continued to reel in
numerous other industry awards,
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00:26:00,109 --> 00:26:03,056
even as the record books
were being re-written.
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00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:09,167
In hindsight, one wonders
if the Academy would rethink
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00:26:09,268 --> 00:26:12,260
overlooking Spielberg's
masterful work on Jaws,
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00:26:12,371 --> 00:26:15,022
if they knew then what
they certainly know now.
468
00:26:20,913 --> 00:26:24,816
Of course, a much decorated
career still lay ahead for Steven.
469
00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:28,220
A now legendary career
that encompasses, perhaps,
470
00:26:28,303 --> 00:26:30,567
the most popular and diverse body of work
471
00:26:30,672 --> 00:26:33,289
ever created by an individual director,
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00:26:33,392 --> 00:26:36,339
making Steven Spielberg one
of the most influential figures
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00:26:36,411 --> 00:26:38,027
in the entire film industry.
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00:26:39,348 --> 00:26:42,227
And it was all jump-started by Jaws.
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00:26:49,475 --> 00:26:53,878
Audience fascination with Jaws
was by no means limited to the U. S.
476
00:26:54,263 --> 00:26:56,163
Shortly after its domestic release,
477
00:26:56,248 --> 00:26:59,331
Jaws swam its way into
theaters across the globe.
478
00:26:59,535 --> 00:27:01,697
And moviegoers couldn't get enough.
479
00:27:01,970 --> 00:27:03,961
The biggest thing I remember about Jaws
480
00:27:04,072 --> 00:27:07,121
is traveling around the world,
promoting it.
481
00:27:07,810 --> 00:27:14,159
And whether it was in South
Africa or Australia or Latin America,
482
00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:18,066
every culture in the world embraced Jaws.
483
00:27:20,439 --> 00:27:23,648
Peter Benchley's book,
which was the start of it all,
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00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:25,352
was a sensation.
485
00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:29,658
Somehow the idea of this
creature attacking mankind
486
00:27:29,882 --> 00:27:31,509
caught on everywhere.
487
00:27:33,152 --> 00:27:34,836
I've been to many places in the world,
488
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,038
and Jaws has reached almost
every place I've ever been.
489
00:27:38,106 --> 00:27:40,598
At first, I thought maybe
it'll do okay in cities
490
00:27:40,676 --> 00:27:43,088
near great bodies of water.
491
00:27:43,195 --> 00:27:44,970
But it turned out
some of our best business
492
00:27:45,047 --> 00:27:46,776
were in tremendous desert countries.
493
00:27:46,949 --> 00:27:50,158
I think the reason it went
around the world so quickly was that
494
00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:51,896
you don't even need dialogue.
495
00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:54,689
I mean, you just see the situation there,
496
00:27:54,756 --> 00:28:00,638
and your own primal fear about
something you can't see into
497
00:28:01,230 --> 00:28:03,665
is enough to hold your
interest in that movie.
498
00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:05,862
It's a universal movie.
499
00:28:05,951 --> 00:28:10,320
Not just Universal Studios,
but it really has a global impact.
500
00:28:10,656 --> 00:28:12,875
I really think it
works like a silent movie.
501
00:28:13,192 --> 00:28:15,126
You're responding to the visuals
502
00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:17,127
instinctively and in a visceral way.
503
00:28:19,565 --> 00:28:24,776
The coincidence of that, plus
Steven's innate talent as a filmmaker,
504
00:28:25,053 --> 00:28:26,987
made a film that will live.
505
00:28:27,055 --> 00:28:28,500
It has to live.
506
00:28:28,774 --> 00:28:31,573
It's not going away anywhere.
507
00:28:31,677 --> 00:28:34,305
There's no culture on Earth that
does not have that film and show it.
508
00:28:35,681 --> 00:28:39,584
It was shown in 40
countries in 17 different languages.
509
00:28:40,435 --> 00:28:45,589
If you forgot what terror is
like, the original Jaws is back.
510
00:28:48,427 --> 00:28:50,737
And then there
was the merchandising blitz.
511
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,523
Almost overnight, Jaws
became a cottage industry.
512
00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:57,635
And suddenly sharks meant big business.
513
00:28:59,721 --> 00:29:05,387
When we realized what we
had, Merchandising was licking their lips,
514
00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:09,488
and it just was such an
easy one to merchandise.
515
00:29:09,765 --> 00:29:13,668
It started obviously with what
everybody does with the T-shirts,
516
00:29:13,735 --> 00:29:15,282
but it went from there.
517
00:29:15,387 --> 00:29:19,915
Everything kind of mushroomed
with the release of the picture.
518
00:29:20,475 --> 00:29:23,251
I even had a toilet seat,
519
00:29:23,362 --> 00:29:27,048
that when you open it up, it
was a big shark facing you.
520
00:29:27,115 --> 00:29:32,269
So, everything, lunch
pails to barbeque sets…
521
00:29:32,371 --> 00:29:34,396
It was incredible,
522
00:29:34,573 --> 00:29:39,477
and one of the first
big merchandising events
523
00:29:39,578 --> 00:29:42,479
to take place in
connection with the movie.
524
00:29:43,532 --> 00:29:45,728
Though three decades have come and gone
525
00:29:45,801 --> 00:29:47,951
since the Jaws merchandising frenzy,
526
00:29:48,420 --> 00:29:52,903
for some voracious collectors,
the summer of the shark never ends.
527
00:30:08,674 --> 00:30:09,937
In recent years,
528
00:30:10,042 --> 00:30:12,670
the picture's enduring popularity has seen
529
00:30:12,778 --> 00:30:15,406
a resurgence of
Jaws-related paraphernalia,
530
00:30:15,931 --> 00:30:19,515
from children's toys,
to high-end collectibles,
531
00:30:21,086 --> 00:30:22,144
to video games.
532
00:30:29,261 --> 00:30:32,162
Another milestone in the
evolution of entertainment
533
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,432
was the commercialization
of the making of Jaws.
534
00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:37,116
Though commonplace today,
535
00:30:37,185 --> 00:30:40,428
capitalizing on a picture's
behind-the-scenes accounts
536
00:30:40,539 --> 00:30:43,588
was rarely, if ever, seen in the mid-'70s.
537
00:30:44,026 --> 00:30:45,585
I'd always been interested in movies
538
00:30:45,660 --> 00:30:49,369
as something more than just sitting
there and passively observing them.
539
00:30:49,548 --> 00:30:53,712
The Jaws Log, by Carl
Gottlieb, and Edith Blake's book
540
00:30:53,819 --> 00:30:55,253
called The Making of the Movie Jaws.
541
00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:59,973
Both of those were inspiration
for making me interested in films.
542
00:31:00,042 --> 00:31:02,454
Jaws as a film to me
543
00:31:02,561 --> 00:31:05,303
is first of all, my favorite
film. I watch it once a year.
544
00:31:05,564 --> 00:31:08,340
And when you examine the film
in its finished state,
545
00:31:08,417 --> 00:31:10,408
and you look at the process
of making the film,
546
00:31:10,502 --> 00:31:12,834
and you read Carl Gottlieb's Jaws Log,
547
00:31:12,938 --> 00:31:14,417
or you just read the other histories,
548
00:31:14,506 --> 00:31:16,622
or as I remember reading
about it even as a kid,
549
00:31:16,842 --> 00:31:19,152
it's almost like film school in a movie.
550
00:31:19,261 --> 00:31:20,422
I remember in film school reading
551
00:31:20,512 --> 00:31:21,570
an interview with Steven Soderbergh,
552
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,728
who said that he was Jaws-obsessed,
553
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:25,381
and that his favorite
book was The Jaws Log
554
00:31:25,484 --> 00:31:27,009
and that he carried it
with him everywhere.
555
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:29,554
And I thought,
"Okay, I'm on the right track."
556
00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:33,791
That book became my Bible, and I
read that book over and over and over.
557
00:31:34,393 --> 00:31:37,237
In the beginning,
when the book was first conceived,
558
00:31:37,496 --> 00:31:41,478
it was kind of a hasty
afterthought to the marketing plan.
559
00:31:41,550 --> 00:31:44,497
The original intent was for
there to be a three-parter.
560
00:31:44,653 --> 00:31:46,235
The book would be written
561
00:31:46,338 --> 00:31:49,399
from Steven Spielberg's point of
view, he would contribute a third,
562
00:31:49,508 --> 00:31:51,875
from Peter Benchley's view,
he would contribute a third,
563
00:31:51,977 --> 00:31:54,776
and Zanuck and Brown would
contribute a third as producers.
564
00:31:55,263 --> 00:31:57,709
And as we got closer and
closer to the release date,
565
00:31:57,816 --> 00:32:00,228
it became evident that nobody
was gonna be able to write their third.
566
00:32:00,302 --> 00:32:02,145
I had already agreed with Steven
567
00:32:02,254 --> 00:32:06,418
to kind of ghostwrite or author
his third of it from what I knew,
568
00:32:06,525 --> 00:32:08,766
'cause we had shared a house and I knew
569
00:32:08,844 --> 00:32:11,085
what Steven's perspective
on the movie was.
570
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,380
So then nobody was available.
571
00:32:13,732 --> 00:32:15,894
Steven was immersed in post-production.
572
00:32:16,001 --> 00:32:18,470
Zanuck and Brown were onto something else.
573
00:32:18,637 --> 00:32:22,164
So they said to me at the end of March,
574
00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:26,268
"Can you do a book by the end of
May?" And with the folly of youth,
575
00:32:26,378 --> 00:32:28,745
I said, "Yeah, I can
write a book that quickly."
576
00:32:28,847 --> 00:32:31,179
So I wrote the book in a very short time.
577
00:32:31,283 --> 00:32:32,717
Probably less than a month.
578
00:32:32,818 --> 00:32:35,810
And the original paperback
got favorable reviews.
579
00:32:36,071 --> 00:32:37,903
And the word of mouth was terrific,
580
00:32:37,973 --> 00:32:39,714
and the book went through 17 printings
581
00:32:39,825 --> 00:32:41,600
and sold a couple of million copies.
582
00:32:43,411 --> 00:32:44,810
And then of course, many years later,
583
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,872
Laurent Bouzereau did his
behind-the scenes documentary
584
00:32:47,949 --> 00:32:49,348
on the same subject matter.
585
00:32:49,985 --> 00:32:52,295
Universal came out with what
they called the Signature series
586
00:32:52,404 --> 00:32:53,712
back in the LaserDisc days.
587
00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:58,937
And the Jaws box set that included
the Laurent Bouzereau documentary
588
00:32:59,044 --> 00:33:02,014
was something that every
Jaws fan just had to have.
589
00:33:02,097 --> 00:33:03,747
They went out and bought LaserDisc players
590
00:33:03,849 --> 00:33:05,465
just so they could have that documentary.
591
00:33:05,534 --> 00:33:09,562
When I got to the
Jaws documentary for the LaserDisc,
592
00:33:09,638 --> 00:33:16,123
I felt that I'm gonna try to do a
Bible or some kind of a reference
593
00:33:16,228 --> 00:33:19,664
to that particular movie.
Because how many times
594
00:33:19,748 --> 00:33:22,911
do we get to sit across Steven
Spielberg or Peter Benchley
595
00:33:22,984 --> 00:33:24,668
and the cast members, but you want to get
596
00:33:24,753 --> 00:33:26,403
all of their different perspectives.
597
00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,030
And I think for the true fans,
598
00:33:28,123 --> 00:33:29,955
you're just looking at those people
599
00:33:30,025 --> 00:33:31,754
as if they were talking to you.
600
00:33:32,727 --> 00:33:37,289
I had seen all those pictures of
Brody's son in the arms of the stuntman,
601
00:33:37,449 --> 00:33:39,144
and I always wondered like,
"That's not even in the movie."
602
00:33:39,251 --> 00:33:42,027
And yet that picture was
used to promote the picture.
603
00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:46,618
And I was always wondering, "What
is that sequence? What is that scene?"
604
00:33:46,725 --> 00:33:48,819
And finding the footage
of that was amazing.
605
00:33:50,946 --> 00:33:55,474
Seeing that when the shark
comes into the estuary, it's just a fin.
606
00:33:56,101 --> 00:33:57,296
I thought that was pretty amazing.
607
00:33:59,688 --> 00:34:02,271
Finding that footage of
the building of the shark,
608
00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:05,685
doing all the tests, dry,
609
00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:08,227
and then getting the big surprise
that it doesn't work in water,
610
00:34:08,313 --> 00:34:09,428
I mean, it was just amazing.
611
00:34:09,497 --> 00:34:15,163
I felt like I was doing what I
had been sent on Earth to do.
612
00:34:15,287 --> 00:34:19,269
To discover all that stuff and
to make sure it was preserved.
613
00:34:19,341 --> 00:34:21,753
Because a lot of it, I think that
614
00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:24,238
if there had not been DVDs today,
615
00:34:24,329 --> 00:34:27,139
I think a lot of that
stuff would be totally lost.
616
00:34:29,784 --> 00:34:33,550
Always an important step
in advancing public awareness of a movie,
617
00:34:33,622 --> 00:34:37,820
both during and after its theatrical
run, is the film's poster design.
618
00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:40,251
And in the case of Jaws,
619
00:34:40,345 --> 00:34:44,407
few images have become more
emblazoned on pop culture than this one.
620
00:34:45,684 --> 00:34:48,301
That image is iconic and was responsible
621
00:34:48,370 --> 00:34:51,783
for getting a lot of people
into the theaters to see Jaws.
622
00:34:51,890 --> 00:34:54,473
What kid wouldn't wanna go see that movie?
623
00:34:54,542 --> 00:34:57,159
It's almost like a bullet
before it hits somebody.
624
00:34:57,262 --> 00:34:59,492
And the fact that it leaves
it all to your imagination
625
00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:02,693
is why the poster of Jaws did so well.
626
00:35:03,451 --> 00:35:10,073
It conveyed all the emotion
that is aroused by the fear.
627
00:35:10,175 --> 00:35:13,270
And you just got it. The minute
you look at that image, you got it.
628
00:35:14,663 --> 00:35:17,906
Jaws' poster is the Bible of how to do it.
629
00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:20,758
That's all you need to know.
630
00:35:20,835 --> 00:35:23,327
You don't need to know about
the main characters and their arcs
631
00:35:23,405 --> 00:35:24,622
or anything like that.
632
00:35:24,723 --> 00:35:28,159
Big shark, pretty girl, bad situation.
633
00:35:28,243 --> 00:35:30,519
One of the things that happens
when you do an iconic film
634
00:35:30,629 --> 00:35:33,724
is it becomes a touchstone for
other artists and other comments.
635
00:35:34,215 --> 00:35:37,446
The Jaws artwork became an element
636
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:39,681
of political cartoons for years.
637
00:35:42,791 --> 00:35:44,691
In fact, the shark and swimmer
638
00:35:44,776 --> 00:35:46,619
were used to represent virtually
639
00:35:46,695 --> 00:35:48,493
every issue in the political spectrum.
640
00:36:02,977 --> 00:36:05,924
And it wasn't just politics
getting in on the action.
641
00:36:06,031 --> 00:36:08,079
Over the years, even up to this day,
642
00:36:08,149 --> 00:36:10,834
the Jaws motif has served as fodder
643
00:36:10,919 --> 00:36:13,547
for a variety of more
off-beat applications.
644
00:36:25,617 --> 00:36:28,416
But what today has
become a pop culture icon,
645
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,046
actually had very humble beginnings.
646
00:36:32,157 --> 00:36:37,106
The art of the swimmer
swimming above the great white shark
647
00:36:37,746 --> 00:36:40,477
originated on the cover of the paperback
648
00:36:40,548 --> 00:36:43,210
edition of Peter Benchley's novel, Jaws,
649
00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:44,695
published by Bantam Books,
650
00:36:44,803 --> 00:36:48,387
and Oscar Dystel, who was
the chairman of the company,
651
00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:52,439
always regretted that he
didn't put… He didn't sell it to us.
652
00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:54,694
He could've sold us the artwork.
653
00:36:54,763 --> 00:36:57,539
But he gave it to us as a publicity thing.
654
00:36:57,649 --> 00:37:00,118
So I kid him about it to this day.
655
00:37:01,603 --> 00:37:04,971
One name that is not as
well known in the annals of Jaws history
656
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:09,658
is Roger Kastel, the artist who
created the legendary image.
657
00:37:10,128 --> 00:37:12,438
Kastel was a seasoned paperback
658
00:37:12,514 --> 00:37:14,812
and magazine illustrator
working in New York
659
00:37:14,883 --> 00:37:17,784
whose skills were increasingly
in demand at the time.
660
00:37:17,986 --> 00:37:21,354
And the assignment
was simply one among many.
661
00:37:21,423 --> 00:37:25,883
Oscar Dystel said, "Have
I got a great book for you!
662
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,873
"You'll love it. You can
read it over the weekend."
663
00:37:28,963 --> 00:37:31,113
They felt the hardcover version
664
00:37:31,216 --> 00:37:33,275
wouldn't work on the paperback.
665
00:37:33,368 --> 00:37:37,532
I did a very rough sketch
and they said, "That's great.
666
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:42,691
"Just make the shark realistic and
bigger. Make him very much bigger."
667
00:37:43,161 --> 00:37:48,372
I had gone to the Museum of Natural
History, and I had my camera with me
668
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:52,550
and I said, "Do you have a
shark exhibit in the building?"
669
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:58,386
And she said, "Yes, they do." But it
was all down and they were refurbishing.
670
00:37:58,460 --> 00:38:00,588
They were cleaning them.
671
00:38:00,662 --> 00:38:05,941
All the sharks were laying on easels.
672
00:38:06,034 --> 00:38:11,666
They were plaster. And
so, I had my camera with me.
673
00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:15,155
Well, I knew what position
I wanted the shark in,
674
00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:20,164
and this is the great white that
they had laying on a easel being…
675
00:38:20,265 --> 00:38:24,930
I guess they were dusting it.
And that's what I worked from.
676
00:38:25,954 --> 00:38:30,937
The girl was photographed
in the studio in New York.
677
00:38:32,227 --> 00:38:36,494
She was a great model. I used her
for a Good Housekeeping painting
678
00:38:36,581 --> 00:38:40,017
and asked if she would stay
another half hour
679
00:38:40,118 --> 00:38:44,396
and just swim for this
paperback. I told her it was Jaws.
680
00:38:44,973 --> 00:38:47,499
I don't think anyone knew
what Jaws was then.
681
00:38:48,042 --> 00:38:50,955
But she was swimming on a stool.
682
00:38:51,763 --> 00:38:54,277
Last summer, I was painting in the studio
683
00:38:54,349 --> 00:38:56,829
and my grandson, Luke, came in.
684
00:38:56,935 --> 00:39:02,521
And he says, "Grandpa, did you
ever do a Mona Lisa?"And he's seven.
685
00:39:02,891 --> 00:39:06,304
And that really threw me.
And I thought and I said,
686
00:39:06,411 --> 00:39:09,255
"I don't think I've done
the Mona Lisa, Luke."
687
00:39:09,330 --> 00:39:14,166
And he said, "Well, the shark
will just have to be your Mona Lisa."
688
00:39:34,589 --> 00:39:35,589
I can't…
689
00:39:37,225 --> 00:39:39,319
Did I say it right?
690
00:39:44,983 --> 00:39:46,360
The theme song of Jaws.
691
00:39:46,451 --> 00:39:48,078
That's the first impression
that comes to my mind.
692
00:39:48,152 --> 00:39:50,246
And it just sticks in there.
You know what I mean?
693
00:39:54,676 --> 00:39:57,088
I think Jaws was the first film that I did
694
00:39:57,161 --> 00:39:58,993
where I was really crazy about the film.
695
00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:00,713
I thought it was a marvelous film.
696
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,725
I remember the first day I played,
697
00:40:03,801 --> 00:40:05,200
Steven said, "What do
we do for the shark?"
698
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:07,204
And I just played
an octave E on the piano,
699
00:40:07,272 --> 00:40:09,115
and then E and an F and repeated them
700
00:40:09,207 --> 00:40:10,902
and accelerated them and so on.
701
00:40:10,992 --> 00:40:12,642
And he said something like,
"You think that'll work."
702
00:40:12,727 --> 00:40:14,104
"You gotta be kidding.
It's so simple."
703
00:40:14,178 --> 00:40:16,590
All he did was…
704
00:40:16,698 --> 00:40:18,109
And Steven said, "That's all?"
705
00:40:18,182 --> 00:40:20,173
And John said, "Yeah, that's it."
706
00:40:20,919 --> 00:40:22,751
Well, I think, John, who's prescient
707
00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:24,652
about all the movies he scores,
708
00:40:24,806 --> 00:40:28,015
he sees deeper than we do
about our own work.
709
00:40:28,610 --> 00:40:31,853
And I think he saw something
deeply primal about Jaws,
710
00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:36,140
and he decided that it
needed a primal response.
711
00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:40,819
It needed a primal sound.
Something that was atavistic.
712
00:40:40,922 --> 00:40:43,766
Something that was extremely basic.
713
00:40:43,841 --> 00:40:45,559
And something that was unforgettable
714
00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:49,563
and would be almost a kind of a siren
715
00:40:49,664 --> 00:40:51,883
to warn you that something
was coming to get you.
716
00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:56,578
When you associate the image
of that shark coming in for the kill,
717
00:40:56,788 --> 00:40:59,473
and you hear that John Williams score,
718
00:41:01,492 --> 00:41:04,723
It's that perfect storm again.
719
00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:07,527
It's the right image for the right music.
720
00:41:07,598 --> 00:41:10,226
It doesn't happen all the time.
721
00:41:10,902 --> 00:41:16,113
But, boy, when it does, you never
forget it for generations, obviously.
722
00:41:18,543 --> 00:41:23,709
The Jaws theme was so
provocative and symbolic of the shark
723
00:41:24,248 --> 00:41:27,343
that he saved us, really, because
724
00:41:27,435 --> 00:41:30,086
the many times that
we didn't have the shark,
725
00:41:30,154 --> 00:41:35,251
all we had to do was point the
camera out to sea and play his score
726
00:41:35,443 --> 00:41:36,820
and everybody screamed.
727
00:41:36,894 --> 00:41:39,443
And for half the film you don't
see the shark. You don't have to.
728
00:41:39,731 --> 00:41:41,722
You hear that theme and it puts it,
729
00:41:41,816 --> 00:41:43,534
"Oh, my God, he's out there somewhere
730
00:41:43,634 --> 00:41:44,829
"and he's gonna get somebody."
731
00:41:44,902 --> 00:41:47,314
I just think it was
the most brilliant couple of notes
732
00:41:47,422 --> 00:41:50,619
that he's ever written, because
it's lived beyond the movie.
733
00:41:50,892 --> 00:41:52,371
And it's become the thing
734
00:41:52,460 --> 00:41:55,737
that kids do with each other
when they're playing in the pool.
735
00:41:55,947 --> 00:41:58,575
You can always creep up on
somebody and go…
736
00:41:58,649 --> 00:42:02,210
And in the post-Jaws world,
it means something.
737
00:42:02,387 --> 00:42:05,971
In Australia, they use the shark theme
738
00:42:06,074 --> 00:42:09,806
as a warning sound on the beaches.
739
00:42:09,911 --> 00:42:11,754
I love that in the loudspeakers.
740
00:42:14,382 --> 00:42:19,479
"I'm outta here!" No one would stay
in the water listening to that music.
741
00:42:19,570 --> 00:42:22,722
Every movie after that, whenever
you saw any kind of a monster beast,
742
00:42:22,824 --> 00:42:25,771
especially sea stuff like a
shark, octopus, whatever,
743
00:42:25,927 --> 00:42:27,975
it was like the pounding…
744
00:42:29,947 --> 00:42:31,494
Don't!
745
00:42:32,417 --> 00:42:33,417
Don't!
746
00:42:35,253 --> 00:42:36,516
That song gives me the creeps.
747
00:42:36,587 --> 00:42:38,772
What do you mean, it's our theme song.
748
00:42:38,873 --> 00:42:43,151
It's very flattering. You think,
"Oh, great, whatever I've written
749
00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:47,642
"has made it to that level." That's
one reaction that I think is natural.
750
00:42:47,749 --> 00:42:49,797
I'm always pleased about it.
751
00:42:49,884 --> 00:42:53,070
The fact that it gets up off the
paper into the orchestra's hands,
752
00:42:53,154 --> 00:42:55,236
out through the microphone
and around the world,
753
00:42:55,523 --> 00:42:58,015
back into my own living room,
which is my own studio,
754
00:42:58,126 --> 00:43:00,743
where I'll be working
sometimes years later,
755
00:43:00,812 --> 00:43:04,806
it's quite a miraculous electronic trip
756
00:43:04,899 --> 00:43:07,209
that composers in preceding centuries
757
00:43:07,285 --> 00:43:10,619
would never have had
the pleasure of experiencing,
758
00:43:10,772 --> 00:43:14,333
so we're lucky that
film and recorded music
759
00:43:14,442 --> 00:43:16,809
and so on has the reach that it does.
760
00:43:23,151 --> 00:43:25,142
While the digital effects revolution,
761
00:43:25,236 --> 00:43:27,204
which took hold in the early '90s,
762
00:43:27,405 --> 00:43:30,989
promised to offer filmmakers
tremendous creative freedom,
763
00:43:31,058 --> 00:43:33,527
the legacy of Jaws reminds us that
764
00:43:33,594 --> 00:43:35,403
being unable to show everything you want
765
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:37,571
really can be a blessing in disguise.
766
00:43:40,885 --> 00:43:44,571
We've complained about
the shark not being able to perform.
767
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:47,256
Because it couldn't.
It was never ready.
768
00:43:47,341 --> 00:43:52,051
That was what saved us.
That was the artistry of the film.
769
00:43:52,497 --> 00:43:56,525
If Jaws never
existed, except in the year 2005,
770
00:43:56,801 --> 00:43:58,747
I would have had the digital tools
771
00:43:58,820 --> 00:44:01,767
to have much more of
the shark in the movie.
772
00:44:01,873 --> 00:44:05,082
Therefore, I would have ruined
much more of the movie.
773
00:44:05,343 --> 00:44:08,358
Had we been able to computerize the shark,
774
00:44:08,913 --> 00:44:12,360
a lot of the wonderful elements
of the picture, like the barrels,
775
00:44:12,817 --> 00:44:14,342
would never have been thought of.
776
00:44:14,819 --> 00:44:19,131
That was an idea that
came during the production
777
00:44:19,207 --> 00:44:21,687
and out of frustration
of not having the shark,
778
00:44:21,776 --> 00:44:24,188
we didn't have anything else to shoot.
779
00:44:26,414 --> 00:44:30,044
In the very first scene, with the
girl being pulled back and forth,
780
00:44:30,117 --> 00:44:34,532
the shark was supposed to
be there in the picture that time.
781
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:38,200
We only showed it later,
because we didn't have it earlier.
782
00:44:42,213 --> 00:44:46,764
They began Jaws in
the opening scene by not seeing the shark.
783
00:44:47,034 --> 00:44:50,595
And I think it was more terrifying.
784
00:44:50,805 --> 00:44:54,537
Not seeing something, I
really believe, is more terrifying
785
00:44:54,609 --> 00:44:57,192
'cause visually, you're all right with it.
786
00:44:57,295 --> 00:44:59,923
But if your imagination runs wild,
787
00:45:00,398 --> 00:45:02,230
then it can be anything.
788
00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:11,875
Oh, God, help!
789
00:45:12,577 --> 00:45:15,046
I did that because
the shark kept breaking down.
790
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,774
And today, a visual shark
would not break down.
791
00:45:17,882 --> 00:45:20,476
There'd be some nice
interactive water explosions
792
00:45:20,585 --> 00:45:22,633
to marry the digital shark
with the actual water.
793
00:45:22,703 --> 00:45:25,832
That's all it would be. There would
not have been a full-size shark.
794
00:45:26,173 --> 00:45:31,521
Or probably even any segment
of the shark in a 2005 Jaws today.
795
00:45:31,629 --> 00:45:34,428
And therefore, the film would
have been only half as effective.
796
00:45:34,532 --> 00:45:39,698
So I was saved by the breakdown
in technology 30 years ago.
797
00:45:42,173 --> 00:45:44,221
I think if I'm correct about this,
798
00:45:44,292 --> 00:45:46,659
it was 55 minutes into the movie
799
00:45:46,727 --> 00:45:48,855
before you actually saw the shark.
800
00:45:54,201 --> 00:45:56,499
One of the things that
makes the picture more believable
801
00:45:56,570 --> 00:45:59,915
is that you can't do many
things with that shark.
802
00:46:00,574 --> 00:46:01,973
You have one shark that goes right,
803
00:46:02,043 --> 00:46:04,341
one that goes left, and
one that goes straight ahead.
804
00:46:04,412 --> 00:46:06,779
Almost made it more believable.
805
00:46:06,998 --> 00:46:09,080
Because you couldn't do
any fancy stuff with it.
806
00:46:09,150 --> 00:46:11,414
And I can't help but
think that filmmakers today
807
00:46:11,485 --> 00:46:13,431
would wanna do a lot more with that shark.
808
00:46:13,521 --> 00:46:18,083
In today's movies, everybody's
trying to top themselves,
809
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:19,422
and they're trying to top others
810
00:46:19,493 --> 00:46:21,541
and they're just trying
to do it bigger and better,
811
00:46:21,646 --> 00:46:24,422
and sometimes, bigger
isn't better necessarily.
812
00:46:24,649 --> 00:46:26,276
Sometimes, bigger is too much.
813
00:46:26,384 --> 00:46:30,184
It's hard to create something
new that surprises people.
814
00:46:30,288 --> 00:46:32,450
In this day and age,
they've seen so much already.
815
00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:33,905
There's so many movies now.
816
00:46:33,975 --> 00:46:35,022
What's great about that, I think,
817
00:46:35,126 --> 00:46:36,924
the expectations for what a movie
818
00:46:37,028 --> 00:46:38,757
could be weren't what they are today.
819
00:46:38,863 --> 00:46:43,391
So when a great movie like that came
out back then, it just floored people.
820
00:46:48,306 --> 00:46:52,459
I cannot tell you how many
people have come to me and said,
821
00:46:52,526 --> 00:46:56,144
"Because of Jaws, I will not
go in the water to this day."
822
00:46:56,514 --> 00:46:57,514
It is staggering.
823
00:46:57,932 --> 00:46:59,559
Come on in the water!
824
00:46:59,717 --> 00:47:01,458
Take it easy.
825
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,585
I mean, Jaws essentially did for swimming
826
00:47:03,688 --> 00:47:06,407
what the movie Psycho did
for showering in motel rooms.
827
00:47:06,474 --> 00:47:08,420
The shower scene in Psycho,
828
00:47:08,526 --> 00:47:11,427
where women especially
weren't taking showers,
829
00:47:11,629 --> 00:47:14,530
I didn't go in the ocean after Jaws.
830
00:47:14,632 --> 00:47:17,146
I was at the beach one day
and a woman came over to me,
831
00:47:17,218 --> 00:47:20,381
and she had her little child in hand.
832
00:47:20,488 --> 00:47:22,820
He was about five years old,
and he was crying.
833
00:47:23,290 --> 00:47:25,759
And she said, "Are you Steven Spielberg?"
834
00:47:25,826 --> 00:47:27,954
And I said, "Yes, I am."
835
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:31,162
And she began screaming at me
with a very thick New York accent.
836
00:47:31,232 --> 00:47:35,032
"You tell him, you tell him
it's safe to go out there.
837
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:37,065
"You tell him it's safe to go out there.
838
00:47:37,138 --> 00:47:39,038
"Look at him, look what
you've done to him."
839
00:47:39,123 --> 00:47:42,036
And this kid was crying his eyes
out. And I said, "What happened?"
840
00:47:42,126 --> 00:47:43,821
She said, "My husband showed him Jaws
841
00:47:43,928 --> 00:47:45,612
"and now look, he won't go into the water.
842
00:47:45,730 --> 00:47:48,097
"You tell him it's okay. You
tell him it's all make-believe."
843
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:51,817
And she gave me such a piece
of her mind, I sat the boy down,
844
00:47:51,886 --> 00:47:53,718
I looked him in the eye,
and I couldn't lie to him,
845
00:47:53,788 --> 00:47:55,005
it is dangerous out there.
846
00:47:55,106 --> 00:47:59,304
I couldn't just say to him, "Yes, go
out there, go out beyond the waves."
847
00:47:59,593 --> 00:48:01,470
It's all psychological.
848
00:48:01,579 --> 00:48:05,425
You yell, "Barracuda!" and
everybody says, "Huh? What?"
849
00:48:07,334 --> 00:48:09,211
You yell, "Shark!"
850
00:48:10,388 --> 00:48:13,517
We've got a panic on our
hands on the Fourth of July.
851
00:48:24,602 --> 00:48:27,845
The structure of Jaws is just so perfect.
852
00:48:27,922 --> 00:48:30,016
It just breaks up into
these beautiful acts.
853
00:48:30,091 --> 00:48:33,504
And it's like problem, finding the answer,
854
00:48:33,611 --> 00:48:36,888
and then the third act of,
"We're gonna go get the shark."
855
00:48:37,081 --> 00:48:39,982
It's such a beautiful,
mythological structure.
856
00:48:40,084 --> 00:48:42,451
Is this monster about things in them?
857
00:48:43,421 --> 00:48:44,889
Ain't got no spit.
858
00:48:46,891 --> 00:48:49,588
As all great storytelling
is that the characters
859
00:48:49,677 --> 00:48:51,236
learn something about themselves,
860
00:48:51,312 --> 00:48:54,725
their phobias, the things
that they're lacking.
861
00:48:55,216 --> 00:48:58,481
Why are they chasing
this thing, the white whale?
862
00:48:59,587 --> 00:49:02,318
It's Melville, it's Hemingway,
863
00:49:02,389 --> 00:49:04,881
it's the ancient prophet, Jonah.
864
00:49:04,959 --> 00:49:07,803
These are the mythological parallels
865
00:49:07,912 --> 00:49:10,859
that bubble up from below
the surface in Jaws
866
00:49:10,931 --> 00:49:13,081
that make it a timeless classic,
867
00:49:13,184 --> 00:49:17,872
that make it last long after the
technological aspects of the film
868
00:49:17,938 --> 00:49:19,349
are old hat.
869
00:49:19,457 --> 00:49:23,269
It's a very classic,
hero's journey kind of a story.
870
00:49:23,344 --> 00:49:28,077
If you subscribe to the
mythmaking nature of screenwriting,
871
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:32,249
it has all the ingredients that are not
872
00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:35,311
culturally specific
to a generation's views.
873
00:49:35,473 --> 00:49:39,159
It's not Depression-America,
it's not Vietnam-America.
874
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:46,016
It's a little timeless island with only
the human values of fear, jealousy,
875
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:48,967
or heroism or shark obsession.
876
00:49:49,253 --> 00:49:51,563
Part of what succeeds about Jaws
877
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:54,108
is the simplicity of
the way the story was told.
878
00:49:54,542 --> 00:49:56,533
And the fact that it's
just three men and a boat,
879
00:49:56,644 --> 00:49:58,590
when you come right down to it,
880
00:49:58,696 --> 00:50:02,792
three survivors who all have
problems with each other.
881
00:50:04,535 --> 00:50:06,481
You got city hands,
Mr. Hooper.
882
00:50:06,554 --> 00:50:08,454
You been counting money all your life.
883
00:50:08,556 --> 00:50:12,015
I don't need this. I don't need
this working-class-hero crap.
884
00:50:12,092 --> 00:50:14,606
They have huge, personal
issues with each other.
885
00:50:14,712 --> 00:50:17,556
But those are all cast aside as
they have to become partners
886
00:50:17,648 --> 00:50:19,594
in order to help each other live
887
00:50:19,667 --> 00:50:21,567
and get through the experience.
888
00:50:21,652 --> 00:50:26,055
And the shark becomes less
important than those three characters.
889
00:50:26,140 --> 00:50:28,256
And I have to give Peter
Benchley total credit for that.
890
00:50:28,359 --> 00:50:29,359
That was in the book.
891
00:50:29,677 --> 00:50:32,772
The characters in
Jaws are composites. All of them are.
892
00:50:32,997 --> 00:50:36,058
I, in Jaws, am two people.
893
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:38,983
I am Hooper from the
environmental point of view,
894
00:50:39,053 --> 00:50:40,350
I am the guy who says,
895
00:50:40,421 --> 00:50:42,799
"He doesn't wanna hurt you,
he just wants to eat you."
896
00:50:42,907 --> 00:50:45,786
On the other hand, I'm
also the character of Brody,
897
00:50:45,859 --> 00:50:48,885
in that every book I've written
has been an everyman kind of book,
898
00:50:48,963 --> 00:50:54,549
of what would happen if a normal
Joe gets himself into a position
899
00:50:54,919 --> 00:50:57,286
that is way beyond his capacity to handle.
900
00:50:57,388 --> 00:50:59,755
And here's Brody who doesn't swim,
901
00:51:00,241 --> 00:51:02,084
who's never been in the ocean in his life,
902
00:51:02,176 --> 00:51:03,974
who's a retired New York City policeman,
903
00:51:04,078 --> 00:51:06,376
who's out in the boondocks and suddenly,
904
00:51:06,447 --> 00:51:08,779
he's cast into having to be a seaman.
905
00:51:09,033 --> 00:51:10,865
This is ridiculous.
906
00:51:11,235 --> 00:51:15,820
After watching a stumblebum like Brody
907
00:51:15,889 --> 00:51:18,881
save his neck by just doing
908
00:51:18,993 --> 00:51:21,462
what almost anybody would
do in that situation,
909
00:51:21,579 --> 00:51:23,775
you get a gun, you get out of the boat,
910
00:51:23,881 --> 00:51:26,043
you try to save yourself,
you get up on the mast,
911
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:28,892
you shoot the thing.
You do what you have to do.
912
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,517
So much so that you
feel like you have done it.
913
00:51:32,623 --> 00:51:34,671
Everybody sitting in the audience did it,
914
00:51:34,742 --> 00:51:36,756
because I certainly did not show
915
00:51:36,844 --> 00:51:40,439
any courageous aspect
of myself up till that point.
916
00:51:40,648 --> 00:51:42,798
And the characters drive you so forward
917
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:46,427
that by the time the
shark is flapping its mouth,
918
00:51:46,537 --> 00:51:47,800
jumping onto the boat,
919
00:51:48,372 --> 00:51:50,022
all you can think of is, "Quint,
920
00:51:50,090 --> 00:51:51,706
"get your feet away from its mouth.
921
00:51:52,026 --> 00:51:54,859
"Just kick it. Get it away.
Stab it, get it away.
922
00:51:54,928 --> 00:51:58,444
"Oh, no, no,
no, no, no. Ah! Shit!"
923
00:52:00,718 --> 00:52:03,187
You've got the
family unit in the first half of the film,
924
00:52:03,304 --> 00:52:07,241
where Brody has a very, very
personable family that you just,
925
00:52:07,308 --> 00:52:09,140
right away you love them when
they wake up in the morning,
926
00:52:09,209 --> 00:52:10,233
and you're there with them.
927
00:52:10,411 --> 00:52:14,393
They're in the "yard,"
not too "far" from the "car."
928
00:52:17,151 --> 00:52:18,346
How's that?
929
00:52:18,419 --> 00:52:19,534
Like you're from New York.
930
00:52:19,637 --> 00:52:23,904
I always said that the characters in
the movie reminded me of relatives.
931
00:52:24,008 --> 00:52:26,272
That's how… I felt I knew them.
932
00:52:26,377 --> 00:52:29,256
He had such a great handle
933
00:52:29,330 --> 00:52:34,951
on depicting suburban, middle
class, everyday American life.
934
00:52:35,052 --> 00:52:37,953
And what he put up there
was almost documentary-like.
935
00:52:38,055 --> 00:52:39,864
I mean, it was just so real.
936
00:52:42,876 --> 00:52:44,344
One of the things that Jaws did
937
00:52:44,428 --> 00:52:46,920
that I wish movies still did more of
938
00:52:47,031 --> 00:52:50,808
is invade a community and
use actual locals in the movie.
939
00:52:50,884 --> 00:52:53,546
It brings the movie to
life in such a real way.
940
00:52:55,823 --> 00:52:58,087
Islander, Lee Fierro, who portrayed
941
00:52:58,158 --> 00:53:00,354
the grieving mother
of doomed Alex Kintner,
942
00:53:00,527 --> 00:53:02,291
still lives on the Vineyard today.
943
00:53:02,363 --> 00:53:05,822
Her now infamous confrontation
scene with Chief Martin Brody
944
00:53:05,899 --> 00:53:09,142
has become a favorite sequence
among Jaws fans.
945
00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:11,251
Chief Brody?
946
00:53:11,305 --> 00:53:12,352
Yes?
947
00:53:13,273 --> 00:53:15,139
It's been accurately recorded that
948
00:53:15,209 --> 00:53:17,109
she had to slap the chief many, many times
949
00:53:17,177 --> 00:53:19,271
in order to get just the right take.
950
00:53:20,114 --> 00:53:23,311
Little did she know then that
her slapping days had just begun.
951
00:53:25,319 --> 00:53:28,732
How many times
have I been asked to slap somebody?
952
00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:33,658
I've never counted them
and so I can't tell you.
953
00:53:33,844 --> 00:53:38,190
But it happens a lot
and it is mostly young men.
954
00:53:40,384 --> 00:53:47,233
I do it to please the fans, but
last year, I decided that is it.
955
00:53:47,307 --> 00:53:49,776
I've slapped my last slap.
956
00:53:51,512 --> 00:53:54,129
Meeting Steve Spielberg
was a wonderful memory.
957
00:53:54,398 --> 00:53:58,346
He asked me if I could
improvise and I said, "Yes, I can."
958
00:53:58,419 --> 00:54:03,186
And so we did… Shari Rhodes,
the casting director, and I
959
00:54:03,257 --> 00:54:07,785
improvised the beach scene,
but I had simply been told
960
00:54:07,878 --> 00:54:11,041
keep my son out of the water,
so that's what I was doing.
961
00:54:11,365 --> 00:54:14,266
And Steve stopped me and said, "Lee,
962
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:19,266
"you gotta let him go in the
water or we don't have a movie."
963
00:54:21,909 --> 00:54:26,540
They had a raft that was cut in
half, and they take my raft away
964
00:54:26,613 --> 00:54:28,331
and they put this half a raft over this.
965
00:54:28,432 --> 00:54:31,026
It was like that round
that they filled up with blood
966
00:54:31,135 --> 00:54:33,069
and all this stuff. He goes,
967
00:54:33,170 --> 00:54:35,036
"Now, lie on the half
a raft on top of this,
968
00:54:35,139 --> 00:54:38,552
"it's gonna blow up. When
it blows up, go underwater
969
00:54:38,826 --> 00:54:41,454
"and stay under there as long as you can."
970
00:54:41,545 --> 00:54:44,537
So you're 12 years old, lying
on this and they're saying,
971
00:54:44,631 --> 00:54:46,565
"It's full of blood." They're
saying, "It's gonna blow up."
972
00:54:46,633 --> 00:54:49,762
And it's like I'm lying there and all
of a sudden…
973
00:54:49,837 --> 00:54:51,987
This thing blows up, and there's blood
974
00:54:52,089 --> 00:54:54,137
going up all over the place in your face
975
00:54:54,208 --> 00:54:57,109
and I just went under water and I hear,
976
00:54:57,211 --> 00:55:00,374
"Cut. Okay, your leg was out
of the water," and they had to…
977
00:55:01,482 --> 00:55:04,691
It took over an hour for all the
blood to clear out of the water
978
00:55:04,802 --> 00:55:06,429
before they could do it again.
979
00:55:06,537 --> 00:55:09,734
I'd get to go inside one of
these warm little dressing rooms.
980
00:55:10,007 --> 00:55:13,056
My friends were all freezing
cold outside, but I screwed up
981
00:55:13,126 --> 00:55:15,595
so I get to go stay warm.
982
00:55:16,597 --> 00:55:19,840
And after about four times of
doing this, they finally said, "No.
983
00:55:19,967 --> 00:55:21,844
"We're gonna try this a different way."
984
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:23,336
And if you noticed in the movie,
985
00:55:23,487 --> 00:55:26,969
I go up and down 'cause these
guys in the wet suits started…
986
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,271
They grabbed me and they were
pulling me under, lifting me up,
987
00:55:30,344 --> 00:55:32,608
and then they pulled me under
and gave me their air.
988
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,757
And that's how they finally did it.
989
00:55:34,865 --> 00:55:38,665
They gave up on a 12-year-old
kid trying to do it on his own.
990
00:55:40,838 --> 00:55:44,888
For the insert shot
needed of Bruce biting down on little Alex,
991
00:55:44,975 --> 00:55:48,605
the dangers of interacting with
a multi-ton mechanical shark
992
00:55:48,695 --> 00:55:52,097
required that Jeffrey be
replaced with a stunt double.
993
00:55:52,165 --> 00:55:56,580
In this case, a common store
mannequin. And a female one at that.
994
00:55:57,421 --> 00:56:00,618
It was to be one of the very
last shots done on the Vineyard.
995
00:56:01,425 --> 00:56:04,053
Steven Spielberg had
already departed the island.
996
00:56:04,161 --> 00:56:06,004
And filming was left in the capable hands
997
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:07,956
of Joe Alves in the second unit.
998
00:56:11,285 --> 00:56:15,483
In true Jaws fashion, the scene
proved extremely difficult to coordinate.
999
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:18,641
But in the end, the shot
would provide audiences
1000
00:56:18,725 --> 00:56:22,457
with the now famous
frightening first glimpse of Bruce.
1001
00:56:29,836 --> 00:56:31,031
Your folks were born here, right?
1002
00:56:31,104 --> 00:56:32,230
Yeah, I'm an Islander.
1003
00:56:32,306 --> 00:56:34,400
Vineyard native, Jonathan Filley,
1004
00:56:34,474 --> 00:56:36,568
who played Tom Cassidy in the film,
1005
00:56:36,843 --> 00:56:38,823
parleyed his one and only acting job
1006
00:56:38,929 --> 00:56:42,024
into a solid career in the
motion picture industry.
1007
00:56:42,316 --> 00:56:44,057
I had done a lot of acting in high school
1008
00:56:44,151 --> 00:56:46,415
and really thought that I wanted
to pursue an acting career,
1009
00:56:46,486 --> 00:56:47,783
and there I was on the Vineyard
1010
00:56:47,854 --> 00:56:51,472
and saw an ad in the paper
that they wanted extras for Jaws.
1011
00:56:51,942 --> 00:56:53,933
So I sent in a snapshot of me at the beach
1012
00:56:54,044 --> 00:56:55,842
the summer before with some friends,
1013
00:56:55,946 --> 00:56:58,916
and I think I circled that,
"That's me," and they cast me.
1014
00:57:00,217 --> 00:57:02,276
There was so much stuff that
they didn't need that was shot.
1015
00:57:02,386 --> 00:57:04,013
I was in and out of the production
1016
00:57:04,121 --> 00:57:06,089
and around it quite a bit.
There's a piece in the picture
1017
00:57:06,173 --> 00:57:09,222
where this guy is
complaining to the chief that,
1018
00:57:09,326 --> 00:57:11,226
"Chief, the kids are
karate-chopping my fences,"
1019
00:57:11,328 --> 00:57:13,774
but, yeah, of course, they
didn't need the actual coverage
1020
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,144
of the kids karate-chopping fences.
1021
00:57:18,251 --> 00:57:20,765
And what I really
cherish about this movie,
1022
00:57:20,871 --> 00:57:22,384
having grown up on Chappaquiddick,
1023
00:57:22,456 --> 00:57:24,504
is that wonderful scene
where they come over
1024
00:57:24,608 --> 00:57:26,076
on the Chappaquiddick ferry
1025
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:28,503
and the guy running the ferry
is this old fellow, Dick Huard,
1026
00:57:28,612 --> 00:57:31,206
who passed away 15 years, 20 years ago.
1027
00:57:31,315 --> 00:57:33,943
And Dick was an integral part
of my childhood.
1028
00:57:34,051 --> 00:57:37,828
And just seeing Dick, it
brings back so many memories.
1029
00:57:39,156 --> 00:57:41,625
For some fans, no pilgrimage to Amity
1030
00:57:41,725 --> 00:57:43,090
is complete without looking up some
1031
00:57:43,176 --> 00:57:45,577
of the many un-credited Vineyard residents
1032
00:57:45,646 --> 00:57:47,159
who make appearances in the film,
1033
00:57:47,264 --> 00:57:49,813
regardless of how miniscule their parts.
1034
00:57:52,185 --> 00:57:55,746
Richard Dreyfuss yells at me,
"Ahoy, sloop, you got a paddle?"
1035
00:57:55,822 --> 00:57:57,096
And I say, "Yeah, I got a paddle."
1036
00:57:57,274 --> 00:57:58,274
You got a paddle on the boat?
1037
00:57:58,291 --> 00:57:59,291
I got a paddle.
1038
00:57:59,443 --> 00:58:01,184
And that was my one big line.
1039
00:58:01,378 --> 00:58:03,654
I quit, Mr. Quint. I quit.
1040
00:58:03,747 --> 00:58:08,958
My part was Quint's
mate. There was a boat named Skip Bucket
1041
00:58:09,036 --> 00:58:11,516
that had all the camera crew
who were coming home.
1042
00:58:11,605 --> 00:58:15,724
Spielberg says, "Will you do
me a favor?" And I said, "I'll try to."
1043
00:58:15,826 --> 00:58:18,136
And he says, "Will you take up
a speaking part with the dog?"
1044
00:58:18,211 --> 00:58:19,211
And I said, "Yes."
1045
00:58:19,930 --> 00:58:22,900
So, I went to get cleaned up a little bit,
1046
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,049
and they told me I had to get dirty again,
1047
00:58:26,136 --> 00:58:30,369
so I couldn't shave anymore.
1048
00:58:31,775 --> 00:58:33,766
I'm Henry Carreiro,
1049
00:58:33,944 --> 00:58:35,685
I was one of the two guys
1050
00:58:35,779 --> 00:58:37,269
that claim we caught this tiger shark,
1051
00:58:37,381 --> 00:58:39,895
which was shot right on this spot.
1052
00:58:39,966 --> 00:58:42,594
And, of course, it turned out
to be the wrong shark.
1053
00:58:42,703 --> 00:58:46,219
Right in this area, we had a
shark here hanging by the tail,
1054
00:58:46,323 --> 00:58:50,874
which was a real one that
we were told cost $10,000,
1055
00:58:51,228 --> 00:58:55,028
to have it caught off Florida
and flown up here special in a box.
1056
00:58:55,499 --> 00:58:57,274
And they called him Oscar.
1057
00:58:57,350 --> 00:58:59,250
They got a lot of use out of that thing.
1058
00:58:59,336 --> 00:59:00,770
But the smell!
1059
00:59:01,405 --> 00:59:03,817
That tiger shark really got ripe.
1060
00:59:04,708 --> 00:59:07,917
I didn't know who, Dick, my partner
was, till I met him that morning.
1061
00:59:07,994 --> 00:59:09,234
We hit it off very well.
1062
00:59:09,346 --> 00:59:12,145
He's funny, he's a
character in his own right.
1063
00:59:12,249 --> 00:59:15,219
I immediately just clicked with this guy,
1064
00:59:15,302 --> 00:59:19,887
and we started cracking each
other up and making jokes.
1065
00:59:20,207 --> 00:59:23,518
Henry is a very, very quick
fellow. And he ad libs very well.
1066
00:59:23,627 --> 00:59:25,789
We played very well off of one another.
1067
00:59:25,996 --> 00:59:28,044
Gentlemen, the officer
asked me to tell you
1068
00:59:28,115 --> 00:59:30,106
that you're overloading that boat!
1069
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,941
Go on, get out of here.
1070
00:59:32,018 --> 00:59:34,897
Dreyfuss, he said, "Where's a
good restaurant around here?"
1071
00:59:35,005 --> 00:59:36,063
Whatever his line was.
1072
00:59:36,173 --> 00:59:38,904
And I turned around and I
said, "Go straight ahead."
1073
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:41,806
Big laugh,
right. Yeah. Yeah.
1074
00:59:41,912 --> 00:59:43,027
And he left it in.
1075
00:59:43,213 --> 00:59:46,399
Can you tell me if there's a good
restaurant or hotel on the island?
1076
00:59:46,750 --> 00:59:48,343
Yeah, you walk straight ahead.
1077
00:59:49,569 --> 00:59:51,219
They're all going to die.
1078
00:59:51,404 --> 00:59:53,873
Spielberg said, "Just
say what comes into your head."
1079
00:59:54,024 --> 00:59:55,753
You stuff your frigging
head in there, man,
1080
00:59:55,859 --> 00:59:57,554
and find out if it's a man-eater.
1081
00:59:58,762 --> 01:00:00,560
We had this guy who did an article
1082
01:00:00,664 --> 01:00:02,496
in the local paper on Cape Cod.
1083
01:00:02,582 --> 01:00:04,630
And he talked to Shari Rhodes and he said,
1084
01:00:04,718 --> 01:00:08,177
"Boy, you must have an
Abbott and Costello going here."
1085
01:00:08,255 --> 01:00:10,235
She says, "No, I just have two Costellos."
1086
01:00:10,524 --> 01:00:11,741
It's got a deep throat, Frank.
1087
01:00:11,842 --> 01:00:13,503
Yeah, but what kind?
What kind of shark?
1088
01:00:13,577 --> 01:00:15,204
Tiger shark.
1089
01:00:16,947 --> 01:00:18,108
A what?
1090
01:00:18,582 --> 01:00:20,482
There's one guy
that pesters the hell out of me,
1091
01:00:20,584 --> 01:00:25,169
every time he sees me, he walks
up behind me and says, "A what?"
1092
01:00:25,255 --> 01:00:26,734
That's probably going to be
1093
01:00:26,807 --> 01:00:29,526
the most famous thing
I've ever said in my life.
1094
01:00:29,693 --> 01:00:30,888
A what?
1095
01:00:31,595 --> 01:00:34,690
Mum, I got cut.
I got hit by a vampire.
1096
01:00:36,133 --> 01:00:38,431
Then 12-year-old Chris Rebello,
1097
01:00:38,535 --> 01:00:40,811
who played Chief Brody's
elder son, Michael,
1098
01:00:40,904 --> 01:00:42,133
remained on the Vineyard
1099
01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:46,142
until his untimely passing from
a heart attack in the year 2000.
1100
01:00:47,444 --> 01:00:50,880
Chris was a friend.
We grew up together on the island.
1101
01:00:51,348 --> 01:00:53,612
Working with Chris in the movie,
1102
01:00:53,717 --> 01:00:57,130
he was a brother,
another brother to my family.
1103
01:00:57,204 --> 01:01:00,686
On set, we used to fool around and play,
1104
01:01:00,774 --> 01:01:03,618
sometimes Steven would say,
"Okay, that's enough.
1105
01:01:03,727 --> 01:01:06,162
"It's time to get back to
work. Let's do our thing."
1106
01:01:06,263 --> 01:01:09,107
And after the movie was done,
he didn't do any more acting.
1107
01:01:09,216 --> 01:01:10,843
He went on to work
for the Steamship Authority
1108
01:01:10,934 --> 01:01:12,459
with my brother, Tommy.
1109
01:01:12,569 --> 01:01:15,311
And that's where he worked
until his passing.
1110
01:01:17,841 --> 01:01:21,209
We really miss him.
We really miss him.
1111
01:01:24,848 --> 01:01:29,058
Perhaps no islander gained
more notoriety for his involvement in Jaws
1112
01:01:29,135 --> 01:01:31,035
than the late Craig Kings bury.
1113
01:01:31,872 --> 01:01:33,601
Craig's gruff and blustery demeanor
1114
01:01:33,673 --> 01:01:36,392
had made him a local legend
in his own right.
1115
01:01:36,493 --> 01:01:41,192
And his portrayal of fisherman Ben
Gardner, a favorite among Jaws fans.
1116
01:01:41,298 --> 01:01:46,759
They advertised for
some person who was a fisherman, a local,
1117
01:01:47,087 --> 01:01:49,715
who could help Robert Shaw
with his accent.
1118
01:01:49,789 --> 01:01:53,771
Robert was a refined British
actor until he met my father,
1119
01:01:53,877 --> 01:01:56,471
and then my father told him stories about
1120
01:01:56,580 --> 01:01:59,140
this island and the people that live here,
1121
01:01:59,432 --> 01:02:03,300
and, unfortunately, I think
Robert Shaw believed them.
1122
01:02:03,370 --> 01:02:06,271
He fell hook, line and sinker,
and he began to repeat them.
1123
01:02:06,356 --> 01:02:08,267
He was interviewed on the air,
1124
01:02:08,358 --> 01:02:10,383
telling these totally outrageous stories
1125
01:02:10,477 --> 01:02:11,854
about the local community.
1126
01:02:11,962 --> 01:02:13,043
…the rich people here.
1127
01:02:13,113 --> 01:02:15,389
There's a lot of skeletons in
the cupboard here, you know.
1128
01:02:15,482 --> 01:02:17,530
There's more incest going on
in Martha's Vineyard
1129
01:02:17,634 --> 01:02:21,286
than probably any state
in the United States.
1130
01:02:21,371 --> 01:02:24,898
They were mostly lies, which
is what my father was best at.
1131
01:02:25,175 --> 01:02:27,758
They'll wish their fathers
hadn't met their mothers…
1132
01:02:29,346 --> 01:02:32,407
My mother, when I took her
to see the movie in Boston,
1133
01:02:32,499 --> 01:02:34,547
we came out of the theater and she said,
1134
01:02:34,651 --> 01:02:36,665
"That Spielberg, he's a genius.
1135
01:02:36,736 --> 01:02:40,548
"Finally, somebody has found a
use for your father's empty head."
1136
01:02:41,408 --> 01:02:45,026
Of course, Craig's most
memorable scene did involve his head,
1137
01:02:45,262 --> 01:02:46,627
but not the rest of him.
1138
01:02:46,730 --> 01:02:49,028
In fact, it didn't even
take place at the Vineyard.
1139
01:02:49,215 --> 01:02:52,560
Three thousand miles away
in Van Nuys, California,
1140
01:02:52,669 --> 01:02:55,195
Spielberg resourcefully created that
1141
01:02:55,305 --> 01:02:57,831
most shocking moment as an insert shot,
1142
01:02:58,041 --> 01:03:01,204
and he used little more than
a foam life-cast of Kings bury
1143
01:03:01,311 --> 01:03:02,642
and a swimming pool.
1144
01:03:02,946 --> 01:03:05,643
Steven had just
come from the answer print with Verna
1145
01:03:05,749 --> 01:03:07,899
at Universal and had signed off on it,
1146
01:03:07,968 --> 01:03:10,551
and here we were on that very eve,
1147
01:03:10,654 --> 01:03:14,454
doing an extra shot that we were
gonna try to get in the next day.
1148
01:03:14,541 --> 01:03:16,316
That scene had already been shot.
1149
01:03:16,493 --> 01:03:18,655
But it wasn't done to shock the audience,
1150
01:03:18,762 --> 01:03:20,105
and so I went to Verna Fields',
1151
01:03:20,180 --> 01:03:21,454
my film editor's swimming pool,
1152
01:03:21,548 --> 01:03:23,448
borrowed her pool,
'cause I didn't have one,
1153
01:03:23,516 --> 01:03:25,541
I didn't have enough money to
have a swimming pool in those days,
1154
01:03:25,618 --> 01:03:27,029
because Jaws hadn't come out yet,
1155
01:03:27,137 --> 01:03:28,514
and I was a poor director then.
1156
01:03:28,672 --> 01:03:31,403
We had a small replica of a hull
1157
01:03:31,508 --> 01:03:33,840
that I put together
in Joe Alves' driveway.
1158
01:03:33,927 --> 01:03:36,305
And I basically held my breath underwater
1159
01:03:36,413 --> 01:03:39,474
and put the head of Ben
Gardner through that hull
1160
01:03:39,566 --> 01:03:41,978
when Frankie Sparks came up
with the flashlight.
1161
01:03:46,456 --> 01:03:50,199
I remember, I timed it
to get maximum shock effect.
1162
01:03:55,098 --> 01:03:57,157
This is the pool where Steven Spielberg
1163
01:03:57,267 --> 01:03:59,326
filmed the Ben Gardner sequence.
1164
01:03:59,436 --> 01:04:01,154
And that was done right here.
Very famous.
1165
01:04:01,221 --> 01:04:04,236
Scary. Scary moment.
1166
01:04:04,341 --> 01:04:06,867
What was the most
satisfying edit you did in Jaws?
1167
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,440
The most satisfying edit, I have to say,
1168
01:04:09,546 --> 01:04:11,594
was the face coming out of the boat.
1169
01:04:11,664 --> 01:04:13,154
Because when I went to that preview,
1170
01:04:13,233 --> 01:04:15,884
and that audience just
went six feet off their seats
1171
01:04:15,969 --> 01:04:20,623
and let out this incredible
scream, that was really satisfying.
1172
01:04:20,724 --> 01:04:24,433
When we found this place, it was
still full of her reels just sitting there,
1173
01:04:24,511 --> 01:04:27,412
but it was amazing treasure to find.
1174
01:04:28,932 --> 01:04:31,663
These are some footlockers
that we found at the house.
1175
01:04:31,768 --> 01:04:35,204
These came back from Martha's
Vineyard, from the shoot there,
1176
01:04:35,305 --> 01:04:39,105
and as you can see, "Verna
Fields, editorial Jaws, "
1177
01:04:39,209 --> 01:04:41,007
on the cover of this one.
1178
01:04:41,111 --> 01:04:43,637
And inside, there are several film reels
1179
01:04:43,747 --> 01:04:47,308
of Verna's work still
kept in these boxes here.
1180
01:04:47,417 --> 01:04:50,682
This is full of different
films that she made.
1181
01:04:51,871 --> 01:04:53,999
Yeah, she had set up
her editing facility here
1182
01:04:54,074 --> 01:04:57,806
and edited all of her films
in this building right here.
1183
01:04:57,911 --> 01:05:00,380
It's kind of cool
that this humble, simple room
1184
01:05:00,447 --> 01:05:03,974
is where one of the greatest
movies ever was put together.
1185
01:05:04,968 --> 01:05:05,968
What are we looking for?
1186
01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:07,764
We're looking for a nice place to show
1187
01:05:07,871 --> 01:05:10,533
that Quint refuses to slow down the boat.
1188
01:05:12,025 --> 01:05:17,680
And here we have the Moviola
that Verna Fields used to edit Jaws.
1189
01:05:17,781 --> 01:05:21,558
Every second of the Jaws film
passed through this machine
1190
01:05:21,634 --> 01:05:24,353
by the hands of Verna Fields.
That's special.
1191
01:05:24,454 --> 01:05:28,413
Doesn't look very pretty now,
but maybe someday, it will again.
1192
01:05:29,793 --> 01:05:31,511
Verna and I worked in her pool house
1193
01:05:31,578 --> 01:05:34,354
shoulder to shoulder for a
long time on that Moviola.
1194
01:05:34,481 --> 01:05:37,940
And Verna did a great job
with her biorhythms.
1195
01:05:38,017 --> 01:05:42,796
Creating a biorhythm for Jaws that
was just the right kind of tautness,
1196
01:05:42,906 --> 01:05:45,750
like a violin string to play
a very, very high note.
1197
01:05:48,645 --> 01:05:50,443
It can't take that much pressure.
1198
01:05:53,183 --> 01:05:54,491
That's the spot, Steve.
1199
01:05:59,088 --> 01:06:01,534
My husband tells me you're in sharks.
1200
01:06:04,344 --> 01:06:07,655
Excuse me. Yes. I've never
heard it quite put that way.
1201
01:06:07,730 --> 01:06:09,141
But yes, I am.
1202
01:06:09,549 --> 01:06:10,710
I love sharks.
1203
01:06:11,151 --> 01:06:12,459
Yeah, I love them.
1204
01:06:14,003 --> 01:06:17,769
I think the fascination
with sharks comes from many things.
1205
01:06:17,841 --> 01:06:21,402
One, they are the last surviving predator
1206
01:06:21,478 --> 01:06:23,503
that poses a genuine threat to man
1207
01:06:23,580 --> 01:06:26,561
in an environment
in which he chooses to go.
1208
01:06:28,635 --> 01:06:32,219
E. O. Wilson said, "We
don't just fear our predators,
1209
01:06:32,305 --> 01:06:34,023
"we are transfixed by them."
1210
01:06:34,574 --> 01:06:36,838
Prone to weave stories and fables
1211
01:06:36,943 --> 01:06:42,109
because fascination breeds
preparedness, and preparedness, survival.
1212
01:06:42,215 --> 01:06:46,402
In a deeply tribal sense, he
said, "We love our monsters."
1213
01:06:48,488 --> 01:06:53,221
I believe that worldwide, young
children, all male children at least,
1214
01:06:53,326 --> 01:06:56,193
have a fascination with
either sharks or dinosaurs.
1215
01:06:56,296 --> 01:06:57,878
Very big shark.
1216
01:06:58,047 --> 01:07:00,823
And in my case, I was
able to grow up around here
1217
01:07:00,934 --> 01:07:03,960
in Nantucket where
sharks were in proliferation.
1218
01:07:04,053 --> 01:07:07,421
So I was able to fix my
fascination on sharks.
1219
01:07:10,777 --> 01:07:13,462
One couple whose fixed fascination
1220
01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:17,194
led to their preeminence in the
field of great white shark research
1221
01:07:17,267 --> 01:07:21,534
was husband and wife team
Ron and Valerie Taylor of Australia.
1222
01:07:21,704 --> 01:07:25,106
Their combined experience
throughout the '60s and '70s
1223
01:07:25,174 --> 01:07:27,688
documenting these elusive animals
1224
01:07:27,794 --> 01:07:31,128
made them the perfect fit
for the Jaws creative team.
1225
01:07:31,231 --> 01:07:34,007
They were commissioned
to shoot live shark footage
1226
01:07:34,083 --> 01:07:37,428
for the picture's climactic cage sequence.
1227
01:07:37,537 --> 01:07:40,063
The assignment would prove
to be almost as harrowing
1228
01:07:40,173 --> 01:07:41,720
as anything in the film itself.
1229
01:07:42,909 --> 01:07:44,399
I told them that there's a problem,
1230
01:07:44,494 --> 01:07:48,806
because our sharks on average
are only about 13 feet in length,
1231
01:07:48,915 --> 01:07:52,328
and yet your mechanical shark
is 26 feet in length.
1232
01:07:52,402 --> 01:07:54,018
And they said, "Well, there's no problem.
1233
01:07:54,103 --> 01:07:57,915
"We'll send you a small man
and small cages."
1234
01:07:58,107 --> 01:08:03,625
We built a scaled down cage, and
we tried a dummy and that didn't work,
1235
01:08:03,730 --> 01:08:08,725
so we found a small person that
said that they could scuba dive.
1236
01:08:08,835 --> 01:08:11,395
Carl wasn't an experienced diver.
1237
01:08:11,571 --> 01:08:15,633
So we gave him an introduction to
diving just down on the waterfront
1238
01:08:15,742 --> 01:08:18,427
and took him out to Dangerous Reef.
1239
01:08:18,678 --> 01:08:23,332
And when he saw his first great
white shark, he was terrified.
1240
01:08:23,416 --> 01:08:27,478
But to give him his credit, Carl
actually did get into the cage
1241
01:08:27,587 --> 01:08:30,534
with these great, big, dangerous looking
1242
01:08:30,607 --> 01:08:31,950
great white sharks swimming around.
1243
01:08:32,058 --> 01:08:35,005
Dangerous looking because we
had put a lot of bait in the water
1244
01:08:35,078 --> 01:08:37,024
to attract them to our cages.
1245
01:08:38,498 --> 01:08:41,183
Joe Alves came into my office one day
1246
01:08:41,250 --> 01:08:44,811
with his hand behind his back and
he said, "Bill, we've screwed up."
1247
01:08:44,887 --> 01:08:48,869
And he held up the tanks
that had been miniaturized.
1248
01:08:48,975 --> 01:08:52,878
He said, "That little guy
only has eight minutes of air."
1249
01:08:53,146 --> 01:08:54,557
What we were not thinking
1250
01:08:54,631 --> 01:08:59,296
is that a small person still sucks
up as much air as a large person,
1251
01:08:59,369 --> 01:09:01,417
and the tanks were very small.
1252
01:09:01,521 --> 01:09:03,740
So, immediately, when he sort of panicked,
1253
01:09:03,806 --> 01:09:06,685
he sucked up all the air out of the tank.
1254
01:09:06,793 --> 01:09:10,252
Carl was very
reluctant. He was afraid. Very afraid.
1255
01:09:10,363 --> 01:09:14,573
The production manager was
calling out to him to get in the cage,
1256
01:09:14,651 --> 01:09:18,804
and he was very slow about it,
and just as he was about to climb in,
1257
01:09:18,905 --> 01:09:21,647
a large shark tried to swim over it
1258
01:09:21,741 --> 01:09:24,438
and got its head stuck in the bridle,
1259
01:09:24,544 --> 01:09:28,128
and of course, it was
trapped and it went crazy.
1260
01:09:28,197 --> 01:09:31,599
And the tail went into the
back part of the little boat
1261
01:09:31,668 --> 01:09:34,399
and tore out all the hydraulic cables
1262
01:09:34,487 --> 01:09:37,184
that took fuel and fluid to the motors.
1263
01:09:37,290 --> 01:09:40,191
And it started to run across
the deck, and as it did that,
1264
01:09:40,293 --> 01:09:43,627
the tail flicked Carl's face.
1265
01:09:43,730 --> 01:09:46,461
And Carl just stood there,
and he looked up and he said,
1266
01:09:46,566 --> 01:09:51,367
"Is that my blood?" And it
was actually the hydraulic fluid.
1267
01:09:51,471 --> 01:09:53,667
And we never got him in the water again.
1268
01:09:54,774 --> 01:09:58,938
If Carl had been in that
cage, he would have lost his life.
1269
01:09:59,045 --> 01:10:02,629
There wasn't much I
could've done to get over there.
1270
01:10:02,699 --> 01:10:04,997
The shark was still tangled,
and thrashing around
1271
01:10:05,068 --> 01:10:07,912
and tangled in the cage on the bottom.
1272
01:10:08,004 --> 01:10:10,314
Carl would have been in there and drowned.
1273
01:10:10,423 --> 01:10:12,790
So his reluctance saved his life.
1274
01:10:19,499 --> 01:10:22,127
1,100 men went into the water.
1275
01:10:22,235 --> 01:10:24,397
Vessel went down in 12 minutes.
1276
01:10:26,606 --> 01:10:30,292
Didn't see the first shark
for about half an hour. Tiger…
1277
01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:32,600
A very little credited writer who made
1278
01:10:32,712 --> 01:10:34,191
the biggest breakthrough on Jaws,
1279
01:10:34,263 --> 01:10:36,777
which was a writer named Howard Sackler,
1280
01:10:36,883 --> 01:10:39,978
whose idea it was to give
Quint the Indianapolis speech,
1281
01:10:40,086 --> 01:10:42,828
even though it was John
Milius who wrote the speech,
1282
01:10:42,905 --> 01:10:45,624
I mean, Howard Sackler wrote
like two paragraphs this big,
1283
01:10:45,725 --> 01:10:50,470
John Milius wrote a nine page
monologue for Quint to say.
1284
01:10:50,563 --> 01:10:53,112
And then when Robert Shaw,
who himself was a writer,
1285
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:57,067
of The Man in the Glass Booth
read Milius' 10 pages,
1286
01:10:57,170 --> 01:10:59,901
he says, "I can't go on for 10, 15 minutes
1287
01:11:00,006 --> 01:11:02,748
"just talking.
Let me have a crack at it."
1288
01:11:02,842 --> 01:11:07,757
Shaw took the speech and
himself edited it down to five pages.
1289
01:11:07,847 --> 01:11:10,646
And that was the whole evolution
of how that speech was told,
1290
01:11:10,750 --> 01:11:13,549
but it did come from the mind
of Howard Sackler,
1291
01:11:13,653 --> 01:11:15,917
who remembered the actual
Indianapolis incident
1292
01:11:16,022 --> 01:11:17,535
and suggested that Quint…
1293
01:11:17,607 --> 01:11:20,292
That that become a Rosetta
stone for Quint's entire character.
1294
01:11:20,393 --> 01:11:22,612
Steven said, "Oh, my God."
1295
01:11:22,678 --> 01:11:27,366
That's the whole impetus,
that's the whole spine of Quint.
1296
01:11:27,467 --> 01:11:33,918
He's not really just crazy, but he
has a case out for these sharks.
1297
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:36,038
You know, by the end of that first dawn…
1298
01:11:38,211 --> 01:11:39,519
we lost 100 men.
1299
01:11:41,364 --> 01:11:43,640
I don't know how many
sharks. Maybe 1,000.
1300
01:11:43,733 --> 01:11:46,384
I don't know how many men,
they averaged six an hour.
1301
01:11:46,486 --> 01:11:51,390
The USS Indianapolis was top
secret when Peter wrote the book.
1302
01:11:51,491 --> 01:11:55,906
So it wasn't in it. He
would've used it, I think.
1303
01:11:55,978 --> 01:11:58,288
And then, before the making of the film,
1304
01:11:58,381 --> 01:12:00,657
it had been unclassified
and Steven used it.
1305
01:12:00,750 --> 01:12:04,232
The world learned of the
USS Indianapolis through Jaws
1306
01:12:04,337 --> 01:12:09,025
and it was a perfectly accurate
depiction insofar as I know.
1307
01:12:09,091 --> 01:12:12,607
Peter's domestic housekeeper
called in the day after the movie opened
1308
01:12:12,712 --> 01:12:16,444
and she said that she wasn't
coming in to work the next day.
1309
01:12:16,549 --> 01:12:17,983
And when he said, "Why," she said,
1310
01:12:18,084 --> 01:12:20,246
"My son was on the USS Indianapolis,
1311
01:12:20,353 --> 01:12:22,447
"and I never knew how he died until now."
1312
01:12:25,558 --> 01:12:28,209
He'd been bitten in half, below the waist.
1313
01:12:31,013 --> 01:12:33,141
The U. S.
naval cruiser which delivered
1314
01:12:33,216 --> 01:12:35,264
the atomic bomb used on Hiroshima
1315
01:12:35,368 --> 01:12:36,802
completed her mission,
1316
01:12:36,903 --> 01:12:39,736
but was then sunk by a Japanese submarine.
1317
01:12:41,307 --> 01:12:45,687
Out of her complement
of 1,196 sailors and Marines,
1318
01:12:45,761 --> 01:12:48,742
an estimated 300 died upon impact.
1319
01:12:49,282 --> 01:12:52,183
And the rest spent five days
in shark infested waters
1320
01:12:52,285 --> 01:12:54,117
before they were finally rescued.
1321
01:12:55,655 --> 01:12:58,920
Only 317 survived.
1322
01:13:01,444 --> 01:13:05,290
Anyway, we delivered the bomb.
1323
01:13:07,817 --> 01:13:14,132
Robert was a pretty Promethean
character. Truly bigger than life.
1324
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:18,199
A man who intimidated me, who scared me,
1325
01:13:18,311 --> 01:13:22,361
who exhilarated me, and I
liked him and I hated him and…
1326
01:13:23,950 --> 01:13:29,389
He had my number. He could
get me and he always did.
1327
01:13:29,472 --> 01:13:32,635
He really thought Dreyfuss
needed a slapping down.
1328
01:13:33,743 --> 01:13:36,758
Young punk with no stage experience.
1329
01:13:36,846 --> 01:13:39,588
He made me doubt that I
could do things I knew I could do,
1330
01:13:39,699 --> 01:13:45,388
like one day he said, "You
couldn't dive off the top of the Orca."
1331
01:13:46,973 --> 01:13:49,453
"Yes, I can."
"No, you couldn't."
1332
01:13:49,642 --> 01:13:52,543
"Can do." And I couldn't.
1333
01:13:52,645 --> 01:13:54,864
Shaw would say, "Look at you, Dreyfuss.
1334
01:13:54,931 --> 01:13:59,141
"You eat, you drink,
you're fat and you're sloppy.
1335
01:13:59,235 --> 01:14:02,421
"At your age, it's criminal.
1336
01:14:02,505 --> 01:14:05,452
"You couldn't even do 10 good push-ups."
1337
01:14:06,392 --> 01:14:08,383
He'd say, "I can do 20."
1338
01:14:08,878 --> 01:14:12,758
And Shaw would say, "You
can do 20 good push-ups?"
1339
01:14:13,466 --> 01:14:15,730
He'd say, "Okay, Roy, you're the referee.
1340
01:14:15,835 --> 01:14:20,636
"Tomorrow morning, we're
gonna see if Dreyfuss can do 20…"
1341
01:14:20,740 --> 01:14:22,003
As soon as Shaw left, I said,
1342
01:14:22,108 --> 01:14:27,057
"Dreyfuss, you know how many
people can do 20 good push-ups?
1343
01:14:27,263 --> 01:14:28,697
"You are not one of them."
1344
01:14:29,332 --> 01:14:31,426
Couldn't do it. He psyched me
1345
01:14:32,118 --> 01:14:35,804
and because he psyched me,
I was always like on guard.
1346
01:14:36,022 --> 01:14:40,823
But I also really worshipped
him as Robert Shaw.
1347
01:14:40,910 --> 01:14:45,564
He was a grand artist as an
actor, he was a wonderful writer.
1348
01:14:45,665 --> 01:14:49,192
I think, in those years, I was very
much appreciative of those things.
1349
01:14:49,285 --> 01:14:54,553
And had circumstances been different,
1350
01:14:54,623 --> 01:14:57,399
we might have worked together again.
1351
01:14:57,510 --> 01:15:02,710
Farewell and adieu
to you fair Spanish ladies
1352
01:15:02,815 --> 01:15:06,774
Farewell and adieu, you ladies of Spain
1353
01:15:07,687 --> 01:15:11,772
On August 28th, 1978, at the age of 51,
1354
01:15:11,841 --> 01:15:16,859
Robert Shaw died from a heart
attack. But his legacy lives on.
1355
01:15:16,946 --> 01:15:19,222
His now mythic portrayal of Quint
1356
01:15:19,315 --> 01:15:21,579
continues to be remembered by celebrities…
1357
01:15:21,650 --> 01:15:26,486
Farewell and adieu
to you fair Spanish ladies
1358
01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:28,737
…and fans alike.
1359
01:15:30,292 --> 01:15:32,738
Ho open you idiot,
starboard! Ain't you watching it!
1360
01:15:33,295 --> 01:15:34,387
Bad fish.
1361
01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:36,448
Not like going down to the pond
1362
01:15:36,549 --> 01:15:38,426
and chasing bluegills or Tommy cods.
1363
01:15:38,501 --> 01:15:40,868
This shark, swallow you whole.
1364
01:15:42,722 --> 01:15:45,669
Mr. Mayor, Chief,
1365
01:15:46,342 --> 01:15:48,083
ladies and gentlemen.
1366
01:15:51,213 --> 01:15:54,808
Commemorations of
the film's central characters and scenes
1367
01:15:54,884 --> 01:15:57,569
show up in the fine arts, as well.
1368
01:15:57,837 --> 01:16:01,523
Exquisite depictions from
sculptors, painters, craftsmen,
1369
01:16:01,624 --> 01:16:03,615
all fans from around the globe,
1370
01:16:03,692 --> 01:16:06,206
reflect the creative
excellence of the film itself.
1371
01:16:14,637 --> 01:16:18,585
I have a tremendous
appreciation for fans of Jaws
1372
01:16:18,758 --> 01:16:21,272
that understand it even better than I do.
1373
01:16:21,544 --> 01:16:23,387
That have spent more time with it.
1374
01:16:23,496 --> 01:16:27,376
Having sites out there like Jawsmovie.com,
1375
01:16:27,450 --> 01:16:30,181
it confirms your identity to a generation
1376
01:16:30,286 --> 01:16:32,755
that doesn't believe anything
is real if it's not on the net.
1377
01:16:32,822 --> 01:16:36,338
I love and
appreciate the fact that the fans get it,
1378
01:16:36,442 --> 01:16:40,857
and not only get it as
a cultural phenomenon,
1379
01:16:40,930 --> 01:16:44,298
but they get the ingredients, and
how the ingredients were mixed
1380
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,199
and how they were combined
to fashion this entertainment.
1381
01:16:47,303 --> 01:16:50,512
And I really love the fans
for being so insightful.
1382
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,631
At this time, I'd like to
present the key to the town of Amity
1383
01:16:59,799 --> 01:17:01,164
to Mr. Peter Benchley.
1384
01:17:04,954 --> 01:17:08,333
It was amazing to me
to discover what JAWSFEST became.
1385
01:17:08,424 --> 01:17:11,337
When I first heard about it,
I thought it was gonna be
1386
01:17:11,427 --> 01:17:14,545
some rinky-dink gimmick by the Chamber
of Commerce of Martha's Vineyard,
1387
01:17:14,647 --> 01:17:16,809
and they did it so well,
1388
01:17:17,016 --> 01:17:20,964
it brought, I guess, 2,000, 3,000
people from all over the world.
1389
01:17:21,036 --> 01:17:23,164
I was enormously impressed.
1390
01:17:23,239 --> 01:17:24,980
This is the first time
1391
01:17:25,074 --> 01:17:26,872
we've all been standing together,
1392
01:17:26,959 --> 01:17:29,826
and that includes the making
of the movie 30 years ago.
1393
01:17:29,929 --> 01:17:31,545
There was no wrap party.
1394
01:17:31,614 --> 01:17:35,915
We never were all in the same
place at the same time, until now.
1395
01:17:35,985 --> 01:17:39,000
So this is a more historic
moment than you can imagine,
1396
01:17:39,088 --> 01:17:40,396
and we thank you for it.
1397
01:17:40,506 --> 01:17:41,769
So much interest in this movie,
1398
01:17:41,874 --> 01:17:44,741
I had no idea that it had this
national and international attention,
1399
01:17:44,844 --> 01:17:46,460
and this is the Star Trek convention
1400
01:17:46,529 --> 01:17:48,463
for people who love the movie Jaws.
1401
01:17:50,850 --> 01:17:54,787
Is that $3,000 bounty on
the shark in cash or check?
1402
01:17:54,887 --> 01:17:56,651
You yell, "Shark!"
1403
01:17:56,739 --> 01:17:59,754
We've got a panic on our
hands on the Fourth of July.
1404
01:17:59,859 --> 01:18:01,793
Chief, Polly sent me to find you.
1405
01:18:01,894 --> 01:18:03,942
There's a bunch of Boy
Scouts out in Avril Bay
1406
01:18:04,013 --> 01:18:06,573
doing the mile swim
for their merit badges.
1407
01:18:06,649 --> 01:18:08,481
People come from all over the world,
1408
01:18:08,551 --> 01:18:13,318
who are from Dublin and Edinburgh
and New Zealand and Australia,
1409
01:18:13,389 --> 01:18:14,800
and it's just stunning.
1410
01:18:14,907 --> 01:18:17,239
I think that to me really shows the bones
1411
01:18:17,343 --> 01:18:18,777
and the fan base of the movie.
1412
01:18:18,878 --> 01:18:21,870
I mean, 30 years on, it's an
achievement to have us all together.
1413
01:18:23,883 --> 01:18:25,658
Yeah, I saw that.
I've got one at home.
1414
01:18:25,768 --> 01:18:26,985
Much larger version of it.
1415
01:18:27,086 --> 01:18:28,349
Much larger of course.
1416
01:18:29,371 --> 01:18:32,033
Came to see the big shark.
Take some pictures.
1417
01:18:32,291 --> 01:18:34,259
You can literally sit in there.
1418
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,306
He will literally swallow you whole.
1419
01:18:44,003 --> 01:18:47,155
Do you know the Muffin Man?
Well, say hello.
1420
01:18:47,223 --> 01:18:51,205
Being called the Muffin Man, I
haven't been called that for years.
1421
01:18:51,744 --> 01:18:54,714
Ladies and gentlemen, the cast of Jaws.
1422
01:18:54,797 --> 01:18:59,007
This is the first time I
saw Jaws on a wide screen in 26 years.
1423
01:18:59,134 --> 01:19:01,262
The audience, of course, was so into it.
1424
01:19:01,337 --> 01:19:04,113
What a great way to
set up watching the film.
1425
01:19:04,223 --> 01:19:06,487
You've got the ferry going by
behind the screen,
1426
01:19:06,592 --> 01:19:08,538
salt air is filling your lungs.
1427
01:19:08,811 --> 01:19:11,655
To see about 3,000 people sitting
there watching the giant screen,
1428
01:19:11,764 --> 01:19:15,291
it was the Jaws version of
The Rocky Horror Picture Show.
1429
01:19:16,986 --> 01:19:18,329
Smile, you son of a bitch!
1430
01:19:31,784 --> 01:19:33,582
Jaws is really unique in the way
1431
01:19:33,686 --> 01:19:35,484
that it was filmed in this specific place.
1432
01:19:35,571 --> 01:19:38,051
Other movies are filmed in
all kinds of obscure locations.
1433
01:19:38,157 --> 01:19:40,034
Most people don't have a clue
where they were filmed.
1434
01:19:40,109 --> 01:19:42,692
Jaws was right here all over this island.
1435
01:19:42,795 --> 01:19:45,639
And you can't really get away
from it, even if you wanted to.
1436
01:19:46,815 --> 01:19:47,839
Coming up on the left,
1437
01:19:47,967 --> 01:19:51,449
you'll see the house that was used
for the Brody residence in the film.
1438
01:19:52,071 --> 01:19:53,812
If you wanted to go see a film location,
1439
01:19:54,073 --> 01:19:56,235
things change, houses get painted,
1440
01:19:56,342 --> 01:19:59,027
and most of the time,
they're even on a sound stage.
1441
01:19:59,111 --> 01:20:01,660
With Jaws, you can take a ferry ride,
1442
01:20:01,764 --> 01:20:04,290
and you'll step off the ferry
and you are in Amity.
1443
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,233
It has really not changed in 30 years.
1444
01:20:17,513 --> 01:20:20,255
I do know that
people come here on a regular basis.
1445
01:20:20,366 --> 01:20:23,518
Jaws questions are probably
some of the top questions we get
1446
01:20:23,686 --> 01:20:25,211
in our visitor information centers.
1447
01:20:25,854 --> 01:20:27,936
They ask us quite often
1448
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:29,040
if they can still see
some of the locations
1449
01:20:29,108 --> 01:20:31,622
where scenes from the movie were filmed.
1450
01:20:31,694 --> 01:20:32,843
The answer is yes.
1451
01:20:33,329 --> 01:20:35,161
Some of the scenes include South Beach,
1452
01:20:35,230 --> 01:20:37,005
where the opening bonfire was done.
1453
01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:40,264
Amity Town Hall, which is
actually Edgar town Town Hall,
1454
01:20:40,336 --> 01:20:42,145
right on Main Street in Edgar town.
1455
01:20:42,638 --> 01:20:44,697
Also the Chappaquiddick ferry.
1456
01:20:45,324 --> 01:20:48,066
It is a very small
ferry that takes you between
1457
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,073
Edgar town and its island,
which is Chappaquiddick.
1458
01:20:53,549 --> 01:20:55,813
At the Grange Hall in West Tisbury,
1459
01:20:55,884 --> 01:20:58,285
the JAWSFEST Behind The Screams exhibit
1460
01:20:58,354 --> 01:21:00,721
is drawing hundreds of islanders and fans.
1461
01:21:02,408 --> 01:21:04,035
Contributed by private collectors,
1462
01:21:04,143 --> 01:21:06,828
these artifacts of Jaws
have returned to the island
1463
01:21:06,929 --> 01:21:09,193
for the first time in decades.
1464
01:21:09,264 --> 01:21:11,847
Prop collecting has become a
really big business in recent years,
1465
01:21:11,934 --> 01:21:12,934
thanks to the Internet.
1466
01:21:13,001 --> 01:21:15,095
It's easy for people to find props
1467
01:21:15,187 --> 01:21:17,201
from recent films all over the place.
1468
01:21:17,272 --> 01:21:20,469
It's very difficult to find
props from classic films,
1469
01:21:20,542 --> 01:21:22,158
especially a film like Jaws.
1470
01:21:23,212 --> 01:21:26,204
I got into Jaws
when I was about five years old.
1471
01:21:26,281 --> 01:21:28,830
One of the first props I
ever had was a harpoon gun.
1472
01:21:29,284 --> 01:21:32,049
And if you're five years old
and you have the harpoon gun,
1473
01:21:32,121 --> 01:21:35,853
of course, you need the barrels and
the tank and the list goes on and on.
1474
01:21:36,325 --> 01:21:38,703
I spent 30 years of my life
tracking this stuff down.
1475
01:21:38,811 --> 01:21:42,122
And I think I did a pretty good
job, considering I found out
1476
01:21:42,231 --> 01:21:45,075
that I probably have one of the
largest collections in the world.
1477
01:21:52,858 --> 01:21:55,134
And whatever
happened to the ultimate Jaws prop?
1478
01:21:55,661 --> 01:21:57,777
Quint's trusty fishing boat, the Orca,
1479
01:21:58,230 --> 01:22:02,315
which served as a floating set for
nearly four months of shooting at sea.
1480
01:22:03,419 --> 01:22:05,717
Well, I had a good
souvenir. I had the Orca for a while.
1481
01:22:05,788 --> 01:22:08,200
I had the Orca shipped back
to Universal Studios.
1482
01:22:08,307 --> 01:22:10,036
We put it on the tour, in the back lot.
1483
01:22:10,142 --> 01:22:12,270
And every once in a while,
|'cl go up in my little electric cart,
1484
01:22:12,361 --> 01:22:13,954
and I'd visit the Orca, by myself.
1485
01:22:14,062 --> 01:22:15,461
I'd look around and make sure
no tourists are around,
1486
01:22:15,531 --> 01:22:16,646
and nobody can see me.
1487
01:22:16,732 --> 01:22:19,895
And I would just sit
inside the pilot house,
1488
01:22:19,968 --> 01:22:22,050
or I would sit in one
of the cabins, right.
1489
01:22:22,154 --> 01:22:25,283
Walk down those few steps to
where all the life jackets were
1490
01:22:25,374 --> 01:22:27,957
just hanging, dripping,
when the boat began to sink.
1491
01:22:28,060 --> 01:22:30,609
And I would just kind of reminisce
and kind of give thanks that
1492
01:22:30,712 --> 01:22:32,612
that movie sort of launched my career,
1493
01:22:32,714 --> 01:22:35,661
but I would go there alone,
and spend time on it
1494
01:22:35,751 --> 01:22:36,751
and didn't tell anybody.
1495
01:22:36,819 --> 01:22:39,038
Then one day, about six months later,
1496
01:22:39,138 --> 01:22:41,914
I went for another journey
back in time, down memory lane.
1497
01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:43,651
The boat was gone.
1498
01:22:43,759 --> 01:22:46,285
And I called up the head of the back lot,
1499
01:22:46,361 --> 01:22:47,658
and I said, "What happened to the Orca?"
1500
01:22:47,729 --> 01:22:49,458
He said, "Well, it was just rotting there.
1501
01:22:49,565 --> 01:22:52,865
"So, we took an ax and took
a couple of chainsaws,
1502
01:22:52,935 --> 01:22:56,462
"and we cut it up for timber.
We shipped it out."
1503
01:22:57,089 --> 01:23:00,605
And I went nuts.
I went nuts.
1504
01:23:00,676 --> 01:23:02,303
I feel very bad about
all the things I said
1505
01:23:02,377 --> 01:23:03,936
to that poor man who took my phone call.
1506
01:23:04,012 --> 01:23:07,380
But I was just beside myself.
They had destroyed this.
1507
01:23:07,483 --> 01:23:11,386
This piece of wood, originally
called the Warlock, by the way.
1508
01:23:11,487 --> 01:23:13,046
It was a real boat called the Warlock,
1509
01:23:13,121 --> 01:23:15,419
and we painted that over it, a weird omen,
1510
01:23:15,491 --> 01:23:17,368
and called it the Orca.
1511
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:20,754
And the fact that the boat
was no longer in existence,
1512
01:23:20,863 --> 01:23:22,228
it had died, you know?
1513
01:23:22,865 --> 01:23:25,527
And it was just
the strangest feeling for me,
1514
01:23:25,601 --> 01:23:27,228
but in a way it was good for me,
1515
01:23:27,319 --> 01:23:28,912
because it cut the umbilical cord
1516
01:23:29,021 --> 01:23:31,706
that was joining me
to some of my worst memories
1517
01:23:31,773 --> 01:23:34,014
about filming that movie.
1518
01:23:34,193 --> 01:23:36,992
And it kind of freed me when they
broke the boat into many pieces.
1519
01:23:37,079 --> 01:23:39,912
But I did recover both twin screws,
1520
01:23:39,982 --> 01:23:42,781
I got the propeller blades back,
1521
01:23:43,252 --> 01:23:46,051
and I got the pilot wheel.
1522
01:23:48,874 --> 01:23:50,456
The Orca is a cast member.
1523
01:23:50,526 --> 01:23:53,461
And what a lot of
people don't realize is that
1524
01:23:53,529 --> 01:23:59,343
Joe Alves built an exact
replica on pontoons,
1525
01:24:00,152 --> 01:24:03,144
which was affectionately
called the Orca II.
1526
01:24:04,356 --> 01:24:07,223
The Orca II, a fiberglass stunt double,
1527
01:24:07,326 --> 01:24:10,011
that was designed to sink
and re-emerge on command,
1528
01:24:10,078 --> 01:24:11,705
has remained on the Vineyard.
1529
01:24:12,915 --> 01:24:14,997
Islander and Jaws boat wrangler,
1530
01:24:15,083 --> 01:24:17,802
Lynn Murphy, has kept her
on a shoreline in Menemsha
1531
01:24:17,903 --> 01:24:19,598
since filming completed.
1532
01:24:19,805 --> 01:24:21,864
When they clean up after a movie,
1533
01:24:21,974 --> 01:24:24,022
they gotta pick up
their junk and clear it out.
1534
01:24:24,092 --> 01:24:26,288
They said, "Well, we
gotta get rid of this stuff."
1535
01:24:26,378 --> 01:24:28,187
So, I bought the Orca.
1536
01:24:28,297 --> 01:24:30,095
I looked it over and there was lumber
1537
01:24:30,198 --> 01:24:32,826
and things in the special effects barge,
1538
01:24:32,935 --> 01:24:34,380
and I wasn't sure just exactly how
1539
01:24:34,469 --> 01:24:35,868
I was gonna use it at the time,
1540
01:24:35,938 --> 01:24:37,656
but I wasn't gonna let it go to the dump.
1541
01:24:40,259 --> 01:24:43,604
Yeah, you can see the
mechanism that was under the Orca.
1542
01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:45,841
You see all that?
That was never a boat.
1543
01:24:46,298 --> 01:24:47,413
There was never a bottom.
1544
01:24:48,483 --> 01:24:50,884
The Orca ||'s resting site has served
1545
01:24:50,953 --> 01:24:53,365
as sort of a holy grail destination
1546
01:24:53,472 --> 01:24:55,463
for fans who've made pilgrimages
1547
01:24:55,574 --> 01:24:57,520
to the Vineyard throughout the years.
1548
01:24:58,043 --> 01:25:02,162
Unfortunately, three decades of
weather, tide and souvenir hunters
1549
01:25:02,230 --> 01:25:06,417
have stripped the boat down to
little more than its fiberglass hull.
1550
01:25:06,585 --> 01:25:09,532
People started
to realize what all this stuff was,
1551
01:25:09,605 --> 01:25:13,769
and over the years,
there'd be a porthole missing.
1552
01:25:14,693 --> 01:25:19,711
We had several of the balsa
wood stems and they'd disappear,
1553
01:25:19,781 --> 01:25:23,331
and then the flying bridge
came off, and so on and so forth.
1554
01:25:23,435 --> 01:25:26,985
As if the sand wasn't bad
enough, guys, I got pricker bushes now.
1555
01:25:27,139 --> 01:25:28,664
I'm a real fan, huh?
1556
01:25:29,358 --> 01:25:30,655
Trespassing is forbidden,
1557
01:25:30,726 --> 01:25:33,969
and the marshy terrain
surrounding it is quite hazardous.
1558
01:25:35,347 --> 01:25:38,874
But none of that has deterred the
more tenacious and adventurous fans
1559
01:25:38,984 --> 01:25:40,884
from seeking to get an up close look.
1560
01:25:40,986 --> 01:25:44,513
I've watched this boat sink
more times than I could tell you.
1561
01:25:44,623 --> 01:25:47,456
It's kind of nice to see it,
but we gotta get out of here.
1562
01:25:48,210 --> 01:25:49,257
This is private property.
1563
01:25:49,378 --> 01:25:50,675
Explain what we're doing here.
1564
01:25:50,746 --> 01:25:53,625
I am one of three complete idiots.
1565
01:25:54,366 --> 01:25:58,428
Out here freezing in the middle
of the night looking for the Orca II.
1566
01:25:58,637 --> 01:26:00,856
This is it.
Look at this thing.
1567
01:26:03,592 --> 01:26:06,584
Today virtually
nothing remains of the Orca II.
1568
01:26:06,662 --> 01:26:08,494
This is the end of the Orca.
1569
01:26:08,563 --> 01:26:10,827
And this is the only thing
that we have left of her.
1570
01:26:10,932 --> 01:26:14,197
We decided we'd take her home
before she was all gone.
1571
01:26:14,403 --> 01:26:18,567
They were selling her for
$100 a six-inch square on eBay.
1572
01:26:21,610 --> 01:26:24,489
Finally, whatever
became of Bruce, himself?
1573
01:26:25,681 --> 01:26:27,775
AH of the mechanical sharks used for Jaws
1574
01:26:27,849 --> 01:26:31,251
were returned to the back lot of
Universal Studios in Hollywood,
1575
01:26:31,319 --> 01:26:34,835
where they were stored and
eventually succumbed to the elements.
1576
01:26:36,425 --> 01:26:39,110
Throughout the span of the Jaws franchise,
1577
01:26:39,211 --> 01:26:41,578
there have been four distinct incarnations
1578
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:42,772
of the mechanical shark.
1579
01:26:43,231 --> 01:26:45,165
Each one aiming to improve on looks
1580
01:26:45,233 --> 01:26:47,315
and functionality over its predecessor.
1581
01:26:48,053 --> 01:26:50,420
But for the truest fans,
it is the original
1582
01:26:50,539 --> 01:26:53,008
with its trademark jowls that remains
1583
01:26:53,075 --> 01:26:55,487
the only true embodiment of Jaws.
1584
01:26:55,594 --> 01:26:58,154
What happened is that we needed a hinge,
1585
01:26:58,430 --> 01:27:02,128
so you got this jowl kind
of thing that happens,
1586
01:27:02,234 --> 01:27:06,444
which I sort of hated, but
I guess Jaws fans love it.
1587
01:27:06,872 --> 01:27:10,809
I guess the shark had a character
that people got familiar with.
1588
01:27:12,411 --> 01:27:16,188
Though he's been replaced
by a dissimilar shark in recent years,
1589
01:27:16,264 --> 01:27:19,609
Universal Studios, Hollywood,
once showcased this casting
1590
01:27:19,718 --> 01:27:24,269
from the original Bruce mold as
a photo op for visitors to the park.
1591
01:27:25,307 --> 01:27:28,322
Today, he remains the
last copy from that mold,
1592
01:27:28,427 --> 01:27:32,989
but has since been relegated to a
junkyard in San Fernando Valley.
1593
01:27:34,282 --> 01:27:37,525
Universal Studios, with
locations in Hollywood,
1594
01:27:37,636 --> 01:27:40,048
Orlando and Osaka, Japan,
1595
01:27:40,122 --> 01:27:43,103
has kept their attractions up
to date throughout the years.
1596
01:27:43,575 --> 01:27:44,804
How many of you saw the film Jaws?
1597
01:27:44,910 --> 01:27:48,369
But the lasting popularity
of Hollywood's model blockbuster
1598
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:50,858
has assured it an enduring place
1599
01:27:50,932 --> 01:27:53,299
in all three theme parks to this day.
1600
01:27:58,457 --> 01:28:01,438
Our shark, which
has been here since the mid-'70s,
1601
01:28:01,510 --> 01:28:05,094
works a heck of a lot better than
the shark in the movie ever worked.
1602
01:28:05,197 --> 01:28:08,758
But the reason I think it
rates so highly still to this day
1603
01:28:08,867 --> 01:28:12,132
is because Steven was so good
at using the camera as the shark.
1604
01:28:12,237 --> 01:28:15,787
So, 40 minutes into the movie
when you finally see the shark,
1605
01:28:15,874 --> 01:28:17,456
you're so terrified of it.
1606
01:28:17,526 --> 01:28:19,187
And I think that's still in people's minds
1607
01:28:19,261 --> 01:28:20,843
when they come here
and ride this attraction,
1608
01:28:20,946 --> 01:28:23,040
they're terrified of the
shark before they ever see it.
1609
01:28:23,148 --> 01:28:26,140
So, we don't have to do a
whole lot to make people scream.
1610
01:28:26,251 --> 01:28:27,251
So, it's great.
1611
01:28:28,887 --> 01:28:31,652
The back lot
shark itself has even made cameos
1612
01:28:31,740 --> 01:28:34,687
in other Universal productions
throughout the years,
1613
01:28:34,793 --> 01:28:37,228
usually being played for laughs.
1614
01:28:37,329 --> 01:28:39,548
But whether for humor or for screams,
1615
01:28:39,631 --> 01:28:42,544
one thing is certain,
at Universal Studios,
1616
01:28:42,634 --> 01:28:47,117
even after 30 years, the
shark is definitely still working.
1617
01:28:54,830 --> 01:28:58,767
For a brief moment
in time, life seemed to imitate art.
1618
01:28:59,050 --> 01:29:00,734
As the waters of Martha's Vineyard
1619
01:29:00,836 --> 01:29:03,396
once again hosted the
presence of a great white.
1620
01:29:03,939 --> 01:29:07,785
Only this time, the shark wasn't
constructed from rubber and steel.
1621
01:29:08,059 --> 01:29:11,996
September 21 st, I'll
never forget that date, 2004.
1622
01:29:12,063 --> 01:29:15,294
The big why is, is why that shark
swam not only in shallow waters,
1623
01:29:15,367 --> 01:29:19,144
but way up into a very tight,
shallow estuarine system.
1624
01:29:19,254 --> 01:29:22,372
What motivated that shark to
get in there, we'll never know.
1625
01:29:22,474 --> 01:29:24,806
Shark! A shark!
1626
01:29:26,011 --> 01:29:28,105
When the great white surfaced in Jaws,
1627
01:29:28,179 --> 01:29:32,423
Amity Island had to call in Richard
Dreyfuss, as ichthyologist Matt Hooper.
1628
01:29:32,634 --> 01:29:34,796
Matt Hooper. I'm from
the Oceanographic Institute.
1629
01:29:35,804 --> 01:29:38,683
But the Vineyard has its own
resident shark expert
1630
01:29:38,757 --> 01:29:42,637
in Greg Skomal of the Massachusetts
Division of Marine Fisheries.
1631
01:29:43,278 --> 01:29:47,545
So many differences between 1975 and 2004.
1632
01:29:47,716 --> 01:29:50,925
And that's the fact that instead
of all the townspeople going out
1633
01:29:51,286 --> 01:29:55,336
and trying to kill it with dynamite
explosives and shotguns,
1634
01:29:55,407 --> 01:29:59,037
spear guns, you name it, the
public kind of embraced this animal.
1635
01:29:59,110 --> 01:30:01,579
And the cry I got, that far
outweighed the negative,
1636
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,923
was this positive, "Quit messing
around and save that shark."
1637
01:30:09,421 --> 01:30:14,791
That we can learn to be concerned for
this animal that Jaws taught us to dread
1638
01:30:14,859 --> 01:30:18,159
and get past that mythology,
to look behind the Jaws
1639
01:30:18,229 --> 01:30:20,072
and look at this wild animal
that's in need of help,
1640
01:30:20,165 --> 01:30:22,213
and draw on our humanity to rescue it,
1641
01:30:22,317 --> 01:30:24,285
I think is a step in the right direction.
1642
01:30:25,487 --> 01:30:27,581
And that step is no small one.
1643
01:30:28,440 --> 01:30:32,775
Despite infrequent, but highly
publicized shark attacks in recent years,
1644
01:30:33,328 --> 01:30:35,695
the general public's
attitude towards sharks
1645
01:30:35,780 --> 01:30:38,613
has indeed come a long way since the '70s.
1646
01:30:39,501 --> 01:30:41,981
One of the problems of
creating a perfect villain,
1647
01:30:42,070 --> 01:30:44,937
a machine that kills and
eats and makes little sharks,
1648
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,066
is that the public quickly subscribes
1649
01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:52,995
to that easy view of the
shark as dreadful enemies.
1650
01:30:53,081 --> 01:30:58,713
Jaws and the sequels, unfortunately,
made them easy to dislike.
1651
01:30:58,887 --> 01:31:01,436
It made people very conscious of sharks,
1652
01:31:01,906 --> 01:31:07,094
and we then realized that
we had to put the facts right,
1653
01:31:07,178 --> 01:31:11,160
to really convince people
that sharks are to be respected,
1654
01:31:11,533 --> 01:31:14,013
and we must learn to
live with them in the ocean.
1655
01:31:14,102 --> 01:31:15,786
The great white shark, for instance,
1656
01:31:15,854 --> 01:31:18,539
has been protected for several years now,
1657
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,268
and the numbers are slowly coming back.
1658
01:31:21,643 --> 01:31:24,294
Over the last 30 years,
the science has evolved,
1659
01:31:24,396 --> 01:31:27,923
so we understand that sharks
have a place in the ocean,
1660
01:31:28,299 --> 01:31:29,596
and it's an important place.
1661
01:31:30,402 --> 01:31:32,962
Environmental groups like
Environmental Defense,
1662
01:31:33,038 --> 01:31:35,154
the New England Aquarium
and others with whom I work,
1663
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,834
have found that the association with Jaws
1664
01:31:37,942 --> 01:31:42,311
draws people to at least
listen to what I have to say.
1665
01:31:42,764 --> 01:31:45,882
So, it has given me the
opportunity to have a third career,
1666
01:31:45,950 --> 01:31:48,248
in the sense of being a spokesman
1667
01:31:48,319 --> 01:31:51,766
for the environment and for the oceans.
1668
01:31:52,957 --> 01:31:55,585
Look at that animal, will you, please?
1669
01:31:56,678 --> 01:31:58,669
He is just magnificent.
1670
01:31:59,047 --> 01:32:01,744
One of the great
freedoms that Jaws gave me was to
1671
01:32:01,850 --> 01:32:04,376
learn about the ocean
that I had written about,
1672
01:32:04,486 --> 01:32:06,545
so that for the past 30 years,
1673
01:32:06,638 --> 01:32:09,437
Wendy and the kids and I have
been able to go around the world,
1674
01:32:09,507 --> 01:32:12,340
diving with all of these
animals of different kinds,
1675
01:32:12,444 --> 01:32:15,960
learning the problems that
they face, the truth about them,
1676
01:32:16,064 --> 01:32:18,544
having to do with sharks, for instance.
1677
01:32:18,616 --> 01:32:21,711
If we can harness all
the interest in Jaws,
1678
01:32:21,803 --> 01:32:24,716
and from the fans of Jaws,
to the enthusiasts of Jaws,
1679
01:32:24,806 --> 01:32:28,253
to the people who see it and who
learn from it and who are liking it,
1680
01:32:28,359 --> 01:32:30,509
into a protection movement for the oceans,
1681
01:32:30,612 --> 01:32:32,706
we'd have a massive force going.
1682
01:32:40,305 --> 01:32:45,744
The gilt-edged bite of Jaws
on so many of today's pop culture artisans
1683
01:32:45,827 --> 01:32:49,104
speaks powerfully to the
stamina of this single film.
1684
01:32:49,581 --> 01:32:52,141
Its extraordinary shelf life
has allowed it to function
1685
01:32:52,217 --> 01:32:54,413
as sort of a creative well
1686
01:32:54,486 --> 01:32:58,480
from which filmmakers may
draw inspiration and innovation.
1687
01:32:58,923 --> 01:33:01,551
A well that never seems to run dry.
1688
01:33:03,845 --> 01:33:07,475
Anyone who's around my age,
who's in this movie business,
1689
01:33:07,749 --> 01:33:11,379
always kind of cites Jaws as the
first movie they remember seeing,
1690
01:33:11,486 --> 01:33:14,217
or the movie that made
them want to get into movies,
1691
01:33:14,305 --> 01:33:16,501
or started their love affair with movies.
1692
01:33:16,608 --> 01:33:17,939
I still remember the first time
1693
01:33:18,042 --> 01:33:20,568
that I saw Jaws in the
theater and how it affected me.
1694
01:33:20,678 --> 01:33:21,975
I walked away thinking,
1695
01:33:22,046 --> 01:33:25,129
"I wanna learn how to
do that when I get older."
1696
01:33:25,300 --> 01:33:30,682
And it absolutely changed the
direction of my life in one night.
1697
01:33:30,789 --> 01:33:33,668
I'm always really grateful
1698
01:33:33,775 --> 01:33:36,517
when anybody, especially a young
director, comes over to me and tells me
1699
01:33:36,594 --> 01:33:40,155
that they were in some way
strangely influenced by Jaws,
1700
01:33:40,248 --> 01:33:42,330
and I say, "Oh, great.
You're part of our club, then.
1701
01:33:42,784 --> 01:33:43,797
"You got it."
1702
01:33:43,885 --> 01:33:48,334
I aggressively pursued
Jaws as a way to learn from the master.
1703
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,249
I saw the light, I saw Jaws and I saw
1704
01:33:51,643 --> 01:33:54,385
that's the promised land up there.
1705
01:33:54,496 --> 01:33:55,496
That's what you have to aim for.
1706
01:33:55,597 --> 01:33:56,940
It affected me in film making
1707
01:33:57,015 --> 01:33:59,757
in just wanting to make movies
that were larger than life.
1708
01:33:59,868 --> 01:34:02,644
Certainly, I think it was one
of those big films of my life
1709
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:06,167
that inspired me eventually to
wanna go on to be a filmmaker.
1710
01:34:06,357 --> 01:34:08,075
I think that anyone that wants to make
1711
01:34:08,176 --> 01:34:11,237
big Hollywood blockbuster
movies is certainly inspired by Jaws.
1712
01:34:11,346 --> 01:34:14,714
Probably every film I make, I'm always
evoking Jaws, one way or another.
1713
01:34:14,816 --> 01:34:18,025
It's like one of the basic films
that drives me as a filmmaker.
1714
01:34:18,102 --> 01:34:21,197
I've worked with Steven on three projects,
1715
01:34:21,289 --> 01:34:23,769
and I still stand next to him
and every time I look at him, I go,
1716
01:34:23,842 --> 01:34:25,571
"That's the guy that did Jaws.
1717
01:34:25,643 --> 01:34:27,327
"That's the reason why I'm here."
1718
01:34:27,412 --> 01:34:31,781
I hope the picture has
inspired a lot of filmmakers.
1719
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:37,200
I mean, that's another added
benefit to this whole miraculous event.
1720
01:34:37,755 --> 01:34:39,416
The hardest thing in the film business
1721
01:34:39,490 --> 01:34:44,337
is not so much to do something
that's usually successful.
1722
01:34:44,429 --> 01:34:48,115
Harder than that is to create
something that has longevity.
1723
01:34:48,216 --> 01:34:50,651
There've been a lot
of great pictures made.
1724
01:34:50,752 --> 01:34:53,767
But one of the tests is the test of time.
1725
01:34:53,872 --> 01:34:58,673
The fact that that film and
the music that went with it
1726
01:34:58,776 --> 01:35:00,710
lingers in people's minds
1727
01:35:00,778 --> 01:35:04,009
is a lot of things. It's a
great compliment to me,
1728
01:35:04,082 --> 01:35:07,074
and to Steven Spielberg, and the people
who wrote it and acted it and all of that.
1729
01:35:07,151 --> 01:35:09,984
It's quite an amazing thing for an actor,
1730
01:35:10,054 --> 01:35:14,423
who was really an insignificant
player in the scheme of things,
1731
01:35:14,626 --> 01:35:21,145
to have a lifelong tale,
of a fishtail behind me.
1732
01:35:21,249 --> 01:35:24,264
Those first instincts that David and I had
1733
01:35:24,352 --> 01:35:29,006
when we read the manuscript
by Peter Benchley proved correct.
1734
01:35:29,073 --> 01:35:33,169
And it feels good to know
that it has lasted all this time.
1735
01:35:33,444 --> 01:35:36,527
Almost every week or month,
1736
01:35:36,631 --> 01:35:40,215
somebody who knows that I
was connected with the production
1737
01:35:40,285 --> 01:35:42,162
will tell me where they were.
1738
01:35:42,270 --> 01:35:46,537
It's like the beginning of World
War II, the death of Kennedy.
1739
01:35:47,909 --> 01:35:50,276
The emotional experience provided by Jaws
1740
01:35:51,346 --> 01:35:54,225
will go on and on and on and on forever.
1741
01:35:54,299 --> 01:35:56,347
I mean, who doesn't like Bambi?
1742
01:35:56,918 --> 01:35:59,910
Bambi goes on forever.
Snow White goes on forever.
1743
01:36:00,021 --> 01:36:01,830
Jaws goes on forever.
1744
01:36:20,742 --> 01:36:24,269
I certainly think that all of us
went through a survival adventure together,
1745
01:36:24,412 --> 01:36:26,471
the entire crew and cast and myself.
1746
01:36:26,581 --> 01:36:30,791
And I have very good memories in
many respects to the making of Jaws,
1747
01:36:30,952 --> 01:36:32,761
but I have many more bad memories.
1748
01:36:33,221 --> 01:36:36,703
Memories that still haunt my
nightmares, still wake me up sweating,
1749
01:36:36,774 --> 01:36:39,323
but the bottom line is I'm grateful.
1750
01:36:39,594 --> 01:36:42,825
Because I went through
a kind of baptism of water.
1751
01:36:42,914 --> 01:36:48,398
And I came out of it, not only
alive, which was my main goal,
1752
01:36:48,503 --> 01:36:51,347
and getting through Jaws was
to come out of it in one piece,
1753
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:53,248
but I came out of it with a career.
1754
01:36:53,524 --> 01:36:55,549
And I will forever be grateful,
1755
01:36:55,626 --> 01:36:58,994
no matter what I tell you
about those nightmares,
1756
01:36:59,163 --> 01:37:01,825
to the fact that the dream
from the nightmare was
1757
01:37:01,933 --> 01:37:04,777
that I got a chance to make
any movie I wanted to make.
1758
01:37:04,986 --> 01:37:07,899
And that has continued to this day.
1759
01:37:10,808 --> 01:37:16,326
Time will only tell when Jaws will
fade from the collective memory.
1760
01:37:16,848 --> 01:37:19,362
But I think as long as
there are sharks in the sea,
1761
01:37:19,467 --> 01:37:22,994
and as long as there are
oceans and bodies of water,
1762
01:37:23,187 --> 01:37:26,532
as long as there are kids with imagination
1763
01:37:26,641 --> 01:37:29,110
who like to torture and scare each other,
1764
01:37:29,193 --> 01:37:32,493
Jaws is going to be probably
around for a long time.
1765
01:40:55,132 --> 01:40:58,375
The shark is working.
Repeat. The shark is still working.
1766
01:40:58,486 --> 01:41:01,012
Repeat.
The shark is still working.
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