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Hello.
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We are probably the most popular
pop duo from Berlin.
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This is Basti Szary
and this is Gernot Bronsert.
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And we have known each other for
quite a long time, round about
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Wait, let's do that again:
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Do I actually look into the camera
or do I look at you?
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For the first time I met Szary was over there,
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by the chimney.
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That's where our first school was,
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where we went together.
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And I have seen one of his binders once
with his name written on it in graffiti.
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It was on the table of
the teacher in the music class
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and it said Sebastian Szary in
graffiti writing and I thought:
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Woah. Cool dude.
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We both grew up east of Berlin.
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One town is called Woltersdorf,
that is where Gernot is from.
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I, Szary, am from R�dersdorf.
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Early childhood memories
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are quite happy ones.
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You biked around a lot,
and spend a lot of time on the water.
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The entire region is crisscrossed
with canals and lakes
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and there was a lot of forest.
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Basically, you spend a lot of time out in nature.
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Until Techno arrived.
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Woltersdorf is kind of a spa town,
you could say.
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It's like a place of pilgrimage
for all the people from Berlin
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who want to put their feet
in the water at the weekends.
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R�dersdorf has always been quite industrial.
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Here, where we are now,
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used to be the limestone-open-pit mine,
the cement-chemical plant,
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so this was kind of where the industry was.
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Woltersdorf had no industry at all.
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They maybe had an industry of gastronomy,
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but not really.
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That used to be the difference
between R�dersdorf and Woltersdorf.
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That the world of electronic music
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in which we work now,
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that that works for us
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is due first and foremost
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to certain circumstances have led
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to the possibilities that we had.
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It was definitely an important period here.
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When I got to know Gernot, know properly,
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with hanging out afterwards...
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With getting naked!
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With getting naked was:
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It sounds late,
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it was 1 996.
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I was working in construction back then.
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I was up on the roof and had to nail.
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A friend passed by, I don't even
remember who else was there.
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Anyways, Gernot stood there too and he said:
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'Ey, Szary, when will you finish,
come down for a moment.'
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And I said: 'Half an hour to go.'
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And you guys waited
down there and I came down
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with my chapped hands and a blue nail
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from hitting it with the hammer.
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And then we drove off.
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I think we went to my place, my shed.
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In any case, we chilled out
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and listened to music.
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- I had records with me.
- You brought records.
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This is where it all started.
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I can show you,
to trace out the dimensions
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...a slightly ruinous attic.
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Anyway this used to be my studio,
it was full of instruments.
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Keyboards, drum machines, Atari.
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Back then it was still pretty clean.
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The shed was originally a workshop,
a storage for building materials
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that his Dad put there and
at some point we started to use it,
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rebuilt and insulated it,
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took out some pillars,
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put down a concrete floor
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so we could have parties in it
and were able to sleep over.
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It was like, at about 1 0, 1 1, 1 1.30
in the evening the party up there started
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and music blared,
basses were turned up
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and those basses permeated
through all the walls.
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So I came out to the shed in
my nightgown at midnight and said:
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'Turn off the bass,
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we can't listen to it anymore,
we can't sleep!'
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Well, that's how it was.
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When it comes to music you
couldn't see it coming with Sebastian.
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He was experimenting a lot,
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had new ideas everyday,
but none of them was music.
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He couldn't really sing either.
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He got a "satisfactory'
I think in musical education.
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And for being able to read sheet music,
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since no one in the family plays an instrument,
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he couldn't do that either.
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Well, but with that music today
you don't really need that at all.
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Basti listened to the radio.
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What was it?
DT64, Monika Dietl as well
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and he tape-recorded it all and analysed it,
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and that was electronic music,
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Rave.
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I don't know what you used to
call it back the exactly.
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Immediately after reunification it was like that:
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I finished school after ten years,
without the A-levels
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and went immediately on to do the apprenticeship
in the concrete factory in R�dersdorf
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and earned my first money
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that I went on to spend immediately
every Thursday in a record shop called Hardwax.
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I still lived at Mum's place.
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And at some point I wanted to know:
How do you make that kind of music?
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A relatively short time later you knew with
what kinds of devices you made that music.
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There were only two of them:
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TR 808 and TB 303.
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Of course, some time later you
had a whole armada of devices.
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In those days you still ordered
the devices by telephone somewhere.
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Until then you could keep it secret,
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but then came the package.
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And you also had to pay the postman.
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I was just shocked
and thought that cannot end well.
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It cannot end well with all the records
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and equipment and keyboards and
what else the stuff was that he bought.
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It was pretty upsetting for me.
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However for him it was his hobby
and very important to him.
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We drove to Berlin,
to Tresor in late 1 990, early 1 991,
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and then also to Frankfurt/Oder, to Rauen...
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...wherever we had enough petrol to go to.
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Influenced by that Techno hype
that had been growing in Berlin as well,
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we tried to establish our own
stinking cellar in R�dersdorf.
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Since there were so many vacancies,
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they had in the old buildings
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We are in one of those areas right now,
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this is the Seilscheibenpfeiler,
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an old building in which in the 1 9th century
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the lorries filled with limestone
came up from the pit
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to be put onto ships
or over into the cement plant.
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So right there were three empty houses
that were completely broken-down,
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without windows, roofs partly collapsed.
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And since it was my way to work,
I cycled to the cement plant every day,
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I passed the houses every day,
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and some day I went in there
and had a look and thought:
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Perfect, here in this basement
we should really have a party.
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So me and my friend, Thomas Richter
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I drove there, didn't call,
back then you actually met in person.
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And said: 'Come on Thomas,
we have to clean up the basement.'
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There was lots of coal dust
and old metal shelves.
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So every day at about 3 pm, after work,
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we started sowing the shelves
apart with makeshift hacksaws.
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and nobody noticed
even though it was really loud.
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Then we shovelled all the stuff out
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and then came the D-Day.
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So, today is the 30st October
and Seilscheibenpfeiler happens
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for the last time this year,
so let's go up there and have a look, right?
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Come on!
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It was completely dark in there.
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There were two floors.
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A House floor.
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And a Techno floor.
A Gabber floor.
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Exactly.
Hardcore.
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There were only strobes and haze.
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Those were great parties.
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People got excited.
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And in the end the feeling was:
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It was pure.
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Pure Techno.
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I perceived the Seilscheibenpfeiler parties
and the following parties
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from a completely different perspective
than Szary for example.
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I was a guest.
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I could look more objectively at the result,
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at what a party can do to young people,
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what it did to me.
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We did some live acts then as well.
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Didn't prepare anything,
just go, take the machines,
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any sequence and off you go.
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People were happy,
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I was happy, too and I think
it was still terribly boring.
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Basti however was great,
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you could dance with it
and it was really balanced.
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He had breaks too,
where the music was quiet
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and there were just strings.
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And from my side that was rather envy:
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How does he do it,
that's what I wanted to know,
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but he didn't really respond.
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So. The morning after:
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The only survivor of the party
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and the only one who
at least does some work.
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The rest fucked off again.
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I know that I was here twice.
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Then the whole thing moved
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and this na�ve boys-shed-construction
site-Techno-mixture developed
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into some type of hype
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and it inspired lots of people
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and there were more parties,
in the potato silo amongst others,
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where it was really dusty
and you couldn't stay in long.
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Then there were parties in the Z1,
the cement plant one,
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in an old coal-pulveriser
where it was also incredibly dirty
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and then it became more official, and bigger
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and then some money was invested
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and the whole thing moved
to the Kulturhaus in R�dersdorf.
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Here we organized the bigger raves
in R�dersdorf from 1 994 onwards
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- the really official ones.
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There were lots of people involved,
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and lots of people in the end
means obscure accounting.
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We had to pay tax for example.
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Until then: What?
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Nobody ever did it before.
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And it worked for a while,
was quite nice,
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but then a certain greediness
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from certain people set in,
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and the group split.
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It stopped fairly soon afterwards.
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I think in late 1 995
we had the last party here.
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So basically, it kept going for 1 � years.
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Before I started getting into music seriously
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I also did other things,
like skateboarding and spraying graffiti.
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I also went to school in Berlin.
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But when I witnessed
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the first Techno parties here,
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that touched me somehow,
it did something with me.
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It was so overwhelming that after
that point there was nothing else for me.
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Gernot and I always
went to the parties together,
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then spent the time separately
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and in the end went home together.
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That's how it always went.
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It was fascinating to experience
this new type of music
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basically around the corner,
kind of in the middle of the forest
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and Gernot was always crazier about it
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than me or other people and wanted to
experience it with every fibre of his body.
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Our Gernot could not yet walk properly
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when he started to bang
his wooden toys in a rhythm
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and sing really like a jazz-musician:
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'There was a man,
who poo-pooed in his bed.'
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In different kind of rhythms
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and he was still very small then.
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We thought that he was going to be a musician
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- even the minister said during his christening:
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'He'll be a great musician!' -
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so we send him to piano lessons:
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Big fiasco.
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In about 3rd or 4th class I was
proud owner of a Technotronic tape,
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I went to bed with it
and woke up to it in the morning.
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I was listening to it non-stop
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and after some Techno socialisation
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and underground parties where Szary was too,
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I started to get more into it
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and basically had my first
DJ gigs at home in my bedroom.
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I think Gernot's parents always said:
'Just do it.'
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His Dad is a scientist,
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he always sat downstairs in his office
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and Gernot was playing music upstairs
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and that was alright.
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I think they rather encouraged him
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to do what he really wanted to do.
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My father once threatened me with
a wooden slat because I made so much noise.
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He was working in his study,
he always had to write a lot,
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and I had the music really loud in my room...
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Something was being built in the staircase
250
00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,315
and there were these slats,
251
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and Dad got really angry
and stood there with a slat, all distraught.
252
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,512
What surprised my parents I think was,
that after weeks of slaving away on building sites
253
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while I was still in school and on summer holidays
I just bought a record player with the money.
254
00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,034
And the next summer holidays
I did the same to buy a second one.
255
00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,151
That was a bit hard to understand.
256
00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:31,909
And then I had these two record players
but no money left to buy records.
257
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,396
I had about 40 records,
I still remember that,
258
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,672
and I always put them up in a way that
I can see them all and I knew them by heart.
259
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:44,790
Then I saw in videos
that the Scratch DJs put labels on them,
260
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,879
but I didn't know why, but I still put
labels on my records too, because it looked cool,
261
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,674
and then I understood what they were for.
262
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:58,115
Szary was DJing in the Z1 at that time
and also played his own tracks
263
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,635
that he produced back then
264
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,789
and Gernot admired that,
265
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:11,995
but Gernot was nobody
who just took for granted:
266
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'He is the DJ now and...'
267
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,670
This type of looking up
to someone he never did,
268
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,836
he was rather interested in:
269
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How do I get there,
270
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,999
I want to do that too,
and what's the fastest way to get there.
271
00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:39,716
After school I had absolutely no idea
what I wanted to do,
272
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,553
To be honest I kind of screwed up in school
273
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:49,353
due to too many out of school activities:
274
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Techno.
275
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:59,188
Then I decided to go to Berlin to university
of applied sciences for social pedagogy
276
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,077
and to do a degree as
child care teacher for five years.
277
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,236
The cool thing there was
that it was full of guys like me
278
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,238
who didn't really know
what to do with their lives,
279
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,110
but most of them were musicians.
280
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:22,075
That's where I met the most musicians
and people interested in music.
281
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,391
Amongst others I met Gordon there
282
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,719
who also works for us, for Monkeytown
and goes on tour as well,
283
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,472
and with him I had a band called Illuminati,
284
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,156
that was my first band before Modeselektor,
I already knew Szary then.
285
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,831
I don't actually know
anything about computers.
286
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:55,430
With Gernot it was obvious that he had something
to do with music when he came there,
287
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,551
or rather we both had
something to do with music,
288
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,910
so it became a topic quite soon.
289
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,029
And since we did a lot together,
290
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,159
not just at school,
it was also a subject matter
291
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,118
it was always present.
292
00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:41,076
We are in Brest.
293
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,070
Pukkelpop.
294
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:43,836
In Belgium.
295
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,756
In Austria.
296
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,551
PITCH Festival.
297
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,510
Bloc Festival.
298
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,994
Somewhere in Brittany.
299
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:48,871
Zagreb.
300
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,876
Amsterdam.
301
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,115
Denmark. Roskilde.
302
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,309
Down with that, down.
303
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,557
Today a big concert in Eberswalde-Finow
with Major Lazer and A-Trak.
304
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:56,397
Mexico.
305
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,079
Guadalajara.
306
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,430
Guadalajara.
307
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,875
Guadalajara.
308
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,751
Bagdad.
309
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,957
Such a Modeselektor track
often sounds quite simple.
310
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,551
And that's why they make such
an impact in the live version,
311
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,955
because it's clear music,
that's to the point.
312
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,914
And that is the highest quality
music can have in this kind of context.
313
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,316
Somehow we are the band of course,
314
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,114
but we do have a pretty equal
footed relationship with the crew.
315
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,598
We talk about the tracklists together,
316
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,639
and they really have become our friends.
317
00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:04,236
You get to know each other really well on tour.
318
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,353
You are very close all the time,
and very often in extreme situations.
319
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,155
Are we allowed to smoke here?
320
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,831
She said we don't have to put the seatbelts on.
321
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,195
It's not that bad.
322
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,910
Whether it be the journey on
the sleeper bus or a flight:
323
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:42,274
Shortly before departure
I always send a text message
324
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,956
to my wife and my mother:
325
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:46,996
'Hello!'
326
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,757
Every time?
327
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,358
Yes.
328
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,118
And I also send a text message saying:
329
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,548
'We arrived safely.'
330
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,233
They are short phrases,
331
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,398
but they really calm down I have noticed.
332
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,750
Guys, the gig starts.
333
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,317
Will I go to the bathroom again or not?
334
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,669
I'm not sure.
335
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,958
Yes, I am nervous.
336
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,234
I am worried again,
that nobody turns up today.
337
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,436
Leave me alone, I am nervous now.
Quiet.
338
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,878
- It is always like that.
- Ey, it's enough, leave my buddy alone.
339
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,799
- It's always like that.
- Gernot, Gernot, it will be alright.
340
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,915
My wife is totally important to me
341
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,076
- she is my earth anchor.
342
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:52,319
When I do some remix
for this and that band with Szary
343
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,119
and come home and euphorically
want to tell her what a great remix I am doing,
344
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,755
she just nods at how great it is what I do
and then hands me the shopping list
345
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,918
and sends me off to get some milk.
346
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,151
It is really cool to have a family,
347
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:14,638
because it connects you to reality,
348
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,070
the reality that is important.
349
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:28,910
We never were the Jacks-of-all-trades
who jumped from one groupie to the next
350
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,634
and went to one
after show party after the other,
351
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:38,916
it was always more like
we kept a little Shire within ourselves.
352
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,872
Our nice little Shire
353
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,993
with little sheep and cows
354
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,032
and little monkeys of course.
355
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,150
In the end, we are two
356
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,153
We are country bumpkins in a way.
357
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,398
Don't know, it's...
358
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,798
I just want to prove that
you can create a lot out of nothing.
359
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,834
That you can achieve
a lot with little means
360
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,952
and we always try to convey
361
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,113
that everyone else also boil
their damn tea with only water.
362
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,990
I moved to Berlin early 1 998,
363
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,269
to the Mitte district
364
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,119
in an incredibly large flat share.
365
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,356
First of all I went to school in Berlin,
366
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,028
and then there was also
a lot going on in Berlin already.
367
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,596
And then I had to cut
the cord with my parents.
368
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,356
So we lived in that flat share
for a while and lived of Kebabs.
369
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,236
Above us a flat with the same layout
was up for new tenants.
370
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,076
It just happened that
I told Szary the flat was free
371
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,878
and he moved in with
three friends from Berlin-Buch.
372
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,554
Also three musicians.
373
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,758
It was a real musician flat share up there,
374
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,077
everyone had a tiny studio in his room,
375
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,918
and we became neighbours.
376
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,437
There was always a lot of movement
upstairs and downstairs,
377
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,517
and usually you met at Szary's place,
who always refilled his coffee pot
378
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,317
and already knew how
to make a really good espresso.
379
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,632
Our circle of friends grew
much bigger all of a sudden.
380
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,628
First of all, we had the biggest flat,
then we constantly had parties,
381
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,597
it was like the pivotal point,
because we had the space for it.
382
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,597
During that time we met most
of the friends we have now.
383
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,515
It was a great atmosphere.
384
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,871
I think that influenced the guys a lot, too.
385
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,954
There were 1 5 people in one spot,
who were all very creative in different areas.
386
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,517
We had a puppeteer,
the Pfadfinder, musicians,
387
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,475
I came from a classical background,
always did my vocal exercises.
388
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,671
It was a wild mix.
389
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,959
Labstyle came in 1 998
and was in the Kurvenstar club once a week,
390
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,439
it was really important
for our musical development.
391
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,874
Our motto has always been:
See with your ears and listen with your eyes.
392
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,638
And then we had two floors
in this tiny club that had two rooms,
393
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,273
so we always had two bookings.
394
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,517
One at the front, at the bar,
and one booking in the back.
395
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,673
Szary and I used to be the main DJs
396
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,754
together with Skate,
397
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,317
still with Paul Kuhn back then
398
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,875
and Krsn.
399
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:09,839
And the Pfadfinder did some visuals
with VHS tapes and video projector,
400
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,678
that was quite funny usually.
401
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:18,071
They piled shoeboxes full of VHS tapes
and then off they went.
402
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:18,911
Again.
403
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,519
Wait, what I find really cool
is to just fall like that.
404
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,634
Yeah, great.
405
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,356
Do it again.
406
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,109
Kurvenstar, Labstyle for us was
like a playground most of all,
407
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,958
a playground we had built ourselves.
408
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,359
We all had no idea really, no future vision,
we just wanted to do it.
409
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:55,038
We were keen on doing it and
invited everyone to observe us doing it,
410
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,630
or to get involved themselves,
or invite all friends
411
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,709
just to have a good evening
and it didn't have a commercial outlook.
412
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,353
We just wanted to have a playground
413
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,518
where we could play out
all the stuff that we had in our heads,
414
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,349
because we are all children
of the 1 990s Berlin Techno
415
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,396
and wanted to realise the ideas
we had in our head.
416
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,951
Every Thursday we completely
changed the whole place.
417
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,639
It never looked the same.
418
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,595
It was extremely eclectic.
419
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,190
There was any kind of electronic music,
420
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,999
a lot of non-Techno and non-House.
421
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,308
In my memories it was the coolest series
you could have imagined.
422
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,310
They had an audience that they themselves
had educated and that never eloped them.
423
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,193
I didn't know that from any other club night.
424
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,555
They could play Bonzai Rave Techno
425
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,990
and then abruptly switch over
426
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:14,354
to Otto von Schirach type of noise,
Hip-Hop or whatever.
427
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,639
Nobody else could do that,
as far as I remember.
428
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,110
Some day we left Kurvenstar
for the WMF Club,
429
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,957
so in the end there was
quite a healthy growth.
430
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:49,109
Then there was the Labland DVD,
because after two years or so we thought:
431
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:55,793
What we generate here is nice, but transient,
because its only ever for one night,
432
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,639
so let us cement it
433
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:01,834
and put into one product.
434
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:08,395
So we sat down with Modeselektor
and produced an audio-visual album.
435
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,471
I think that the continuity in the collaboration
436
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,831
between Modeselektor and Pfadfinderei
is something very special.
437
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,596
It has been going on for
a very very long time
438
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:39,590
and I would say the equal status that
we accredit to each other is very important.
439
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:49,519
The trust into the genre,
the chapter that you describe is quite large,
440
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,910
and that definitely gives
Gernot and Szary security
441
00:35:55,240 --> 00:36:00,951
and we have repeatedly gotten
good inspiration from it as well,
442
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,720
to create something new.
443
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,239
At the moment
we are in the so called ALL,
444
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,072
that is short for Allende Club.
445
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,671
it used to be a youth club
in Berlin-K�penick.
446
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:39,752
In this house I used to work on
a job-creation scheme from 1 998 to 2001,
447
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,318
it was called SAM
structural adaptation measure.
448
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,748
Looks a little different.
449
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,188
Different colour.
450
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,836
Formerly the studio was...
Here used to be a wall.
451
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,510
And this was the studio area.
452
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,279
I knew Szary from DJing,
453
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,110
we always played in the ALL
on Wednesdays for example,
454
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,549
or in the Blaupunkt Bar in Mitte,
at the same time as Kurvenstar was taking place.
455
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:13,433
And he always seemed like
the most fitting guy for the job,
456
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:19,192
because his social streak always
showed that he was a good choice.
457
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,840
The core job was
to take care of a room
458
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,669
to which the youngsters could come
with their ideas, to make beats
459
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,276
- it was mainly a Hip-Hop background here -
460
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,148
to record their raps and create mixtapes.
461
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:56,275
Szary always used to mix
all my important projects.
462
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,236
That happened, because he is
and always has been an ace in that area
463
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,749
and we all knew that and we
464
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,751
- I don't want to say
kneeled in the dust before him -
465
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,155
but we all said:
'Can you help us with this or that? '
466
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,872
And it was like that back then too and particularly
the experimental bands loved recording with him.
467
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,991
And he also had the assignment
from the youth club,
468
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,112
so he was employed to do it.
469
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,391
We're like locusts here.
470
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,552
So now we found it after all.
471
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,038
There are no titles on this unfortunately.
472
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:35,838
And this is the very first Elektroheadz.
From the year I think also No, 1 999.
473
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:43,671
Same basic principle: Bands, young artists
or musicians who were still going to be musicians
474
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,474
came to my studio
and tried themselves out.
475
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,349
I went to school in Berlin-K�penick.
476
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,911
That's how there was
a connection to the Allende club,
477
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,918
because it was the central point
478
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,030
for all the DJs, skateboarder,
graffiti artists, bands, whatever.
479
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:08,758
During my pedagogical education
I did a year long internship here.
480
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:18,477
In the years 1 998 to 2001 during this job,
481
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,672
we did normal stuff with the youths,
482
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,352
usually when Gernot
was working here as well
483
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,355
it was like that:
Let's stay on a bit after finishing time.
484
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,235
And usually we went home
at 5 am with the first metro.
485
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,396
So, basically we used
the studio ourselves,
486
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,832
because we did not yet have our own studio
to try out our ideas.
487
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:45,711
Many of our friends, other musicians,
Siriusmo for example
488
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,594
who was from the same
background as us, came by.
489
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,032
We just hung out a lot and tried out a lot.
And stayed up all night.
490
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,669
At that time there was not only the ALL,
we already had a weekly thing in the Kurvenstar.
491
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,952
It was like a parallel universe what we had.
492
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,550
We had our own,
but never our own studio,
493
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,670
and that's what we had here.
494
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,874
And above all it was that we had...
Think about the responsibilities.
495
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:18,510
We didn't have children yet, no company,
we just lived the moment.
496
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,794
- I don't miss that life -
497
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,313
somehow it was the complete opposite
to the relatively organised thing we do today.
498
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,552
It was also exciting.
This is how we really learned to make music.
499
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,558
By dealing with things for a long time.
500
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,520
Technical things, sound and so on.
501
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,359
It was learning by doing.
502
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,036
There was no concept.
We didn't have a release in the back of our minds,
503
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:50,711
but it was just trying things, experimenting.
504
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,354
This is how our way
to work has developed,
505
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,272
in this room here
506
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,750
if you want.
507
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,315
I believe this is where the
name Modeselektor was created.
508
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,196
We already had this Roland Space Echo
in this studio back then
509
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,312
and it was like:
Well, what are we going to call ourselves.
510
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,158
It says Mode Selector there, let's take that.
511
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,237
For me the beginning of Modeselektor
was like a transition phase.
512
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,675
Basti and Gernot were
DJing a lot together
513
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,476
and at some point it was established
that they make music together.
514
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,435
I noticed that there were
two completely different characters.
515
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,235
Basti as a relatively quiet,
even-tempered guy.
516
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,513
And Gernot who brings in all that energy.
517
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,908
The incredible thing is that that
was brought Modeselektor forward,
518
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,795
because if Gernot hadn't been there for Basti,
519
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:59,037
Basti would have probably worked his way up
with smaller not quite as intensive things.
520
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:02,038
Gernot I think was the one
who pushed Basti as well.
521
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,475
I think at that time there
was a special spirit.
522
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,911
It was the generation of the kids
who grew up after the reunification,
523
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,953
who had their childhood
during the past GDR years
524
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,516
but then sort of came into
this emptiness of the reunification,
525
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,712
who grew up in a bubble.
526
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,193
Back then there was this sort
of lawlessness and we just did things.
527
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,319
"Where Modeselektor and their notebooks arrive,
aggression is pre-programmed.
528
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,078
In a purely musical sense of course.
529
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,950
So the two former Public Enemy fans
create rhythmical sound fronts,
530
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,630
whose heavy basses
occasionally might alarm the police.
531
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,350
As it happens last year
in the Berlin Club Central."
532
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,959
You met more and more people,
and those people noticed:
533
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,754
Ah, they are called Modeselektor,
534
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,473
they make cool music,
they have to release something.
535
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,199
That for example took a very long time,
until we finally gave our first demo
536
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:18,157
to Ellen Allien from BPitch Control.
537
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,713
To the boss.
538
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,234
Took about a year.
539
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,795
I think it started in the year 2000 or so
540
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,833
one of the Pfadfinder told me
a lot about Modeselektor.
541
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,512
That they have a few buddies
who make great music.
542
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:37,990
And at some stage I said:
Yes I'd like to meet them, they can drop by.
543
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,679
I can't even remember if they did drop by.
544
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,519
Anyways, I heard them at some event
545
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:47,794
and thought they were really interesting
because they have a lot of energy together.
546
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,198
And when I looked at them
in that small venue I thought:
547
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,154
Wow, they are really behind what they are doing.
They love that music, that is their life.
548
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,838
I had not seen guys who
got so into it in a long time.
549
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:05,235
And then they gave me their first tracks,
or one anyways,
550
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,117
and I think I even asked them:
'Don't you want to do a record on BPitch? '
551
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,789
And that really took a while,
until that was there.
552
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,753
I rang them a few times,
and they came to the office
553
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,595
and I asked:
'Guys, what's with the record? '
554
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:39,511
We rented a small room there,
that was maybe eight or nine square meters,
555
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,669
in the same house,
556
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,995
and it was triangular.
557
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,872
Pretty good for a studio.
558
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:48,391
Or bad?
Who knows?
559
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,239
Back then the acoustics
weren't that important to us,
560
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,510
and then we made our music there.
561
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:57,474
So we were always
in touch with BPitch anyway,
562
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,079
because it was in the same house.
563
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,157
So one thing led to another.
564
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,632
Then we gave her the demo CD,
but that track was really bad,
565
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,193
we got no feedback.
566
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,755
Then we kept talking,
567
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,555
and we got four tracks ready
and she promptly released them.
568
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:19,068
That was our first EP 'In Loving Memory',
BPitch Control Number 042 in 2002.
569
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,551
The record is called like that
because a good friend of mine and Szary
570
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,150
who we went to E-Werk with a lot,
died around that time:
571
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,998
Enny, rest in peace.
572
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,555
He was a really cool guy,
but he was very sick unfortunately.
573
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:43,398
And I always liked the idea of putting on
something like a combat gear on the subway
574
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,673
and come out of a manhole cover
into a destroyed world.
575
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,677
Listen, we just put them on now temporarily.
576
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,236
We stay like this and walk in with the things,
and walk through the train
577
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,793
and you go ahead.
578
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,709
We walk through the masses
so we get the reaction of people.
579
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,799
Coz they will shit their pants
thinking it's a robbery or anthrax or
580
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,235
Come on
581
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:58,357
When Modeselektor came to BPitch it was
not like I discovered them as a super A&R
582
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,199
who got the artists off the road,
583
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:03,870
it was more a kind of family thing in a way,
584
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:10,269
a network that emerged
from the same musical interests.
585
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,758
You could say that Ellen used to have a...
I don't want to call it a mothering role,
586
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:23,390
but she definitely educated
us young rough artists in some way.
587
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,636
Ellen Allien from BPitch was definitely
very important for Modeselektor.
588
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,156
Just by giving them a platform.
589
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,911
It was already an established label.
590
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,877
And Ellen realized things
that the boys wanted
591
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,073
and basically gave them
complete artistic freedom.
592
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,197
She did smooth the way for them.
593
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,516
Also through her international contacts.
594
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:55,278
I don't know if the guys
595
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,155
would have been positioned
internationally so early on without BPitch.
596
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,476
She took them on tour as well.
597
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,230
The label had an international position.
That was definitely important.
598
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,159
At that time, most people wanted Ellen,
599
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,512
so we tried to have BPitch nights
where they also could play.
600
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,390
But there were some
promoters from the start
601
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,156
who wanted the music of Modeselektor,
who wanted to book Modeselektor.
602
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,958
There was a small world tour in May 2006,
603
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,110
four weeks long.
604
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,151
With an Around the World Ticket.
605
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,509
I would not be allowed
to book that anymore now,
606
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:41,114
but back then it was my first big thing
and for Modeselektor it was also the first big thing.
607
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,716
I would almost argue that
the success of Modeselektor
608
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:58,234
was based first and foremost
on the live shows,
609
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,115
because they got
so big at some stage.
610
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,714
Of course the life on tour
is a great motivation.
611
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,831
It's still great
612
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,759
to say on Friday: 'Bye!
613
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,191
Daddy is back on Sunday,
or Monday, depending.'
614
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,077
And then you are
in a parallel universe,
615
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,596
on the tourbus, on the plane...
616
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,635
There's the crew, it's really fun.
617
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,680
I really like knowing nobody
can see me through the dark glass
618
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,310
and it's comfortable,
619
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,078
you really get mad with all this flying.
620
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,397
All those airports, you don't have that here.
621
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,955
You can go directly from your bed into the club.
622
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,434
It's great.
623
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:42,430
The only thing missing is chicken
flying directly into your mouth.
624
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,149
Hubi! Get up!
625
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,071
I get woken up by this person,
626
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,989
me being a nice guy
who has bloody fingers
627
00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:59,631
from scratching on all the doors
making it possible for you to play.
628
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,353
Nobody wants to hear you really,
629
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,278
I always have to beg:
'Please let them play.
630
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,392
I know it's not your taste,
631
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,797
and people don't really like it either.'
632
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,318
Nobody needs to know.
633
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,239
Here we go again.
634
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,875
I have to go along with it.
635
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,072
When Szary always wears such shit
I have to go along.
636
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,390
Else I am just being labeled as a nerd.
637
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,674
You have to ask Szary.
638
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,956
I think round about 450 or 500.
During our career.
639
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,516
It doesn't sound like a lot,
Gernot would probably say it's the 700th.
640
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:11,712
850.
641
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,273
What, 850?
642
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,471
I guess it was 850.
643
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,477
What?
644
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,908
I won't tell what.
645
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,719
I thought it was great today.
I knew it somehow.
646
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,989
You know the feeling, when you open
an old book and you find something
647
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,589
that you used as
a page marker a long time ago,
648
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,112
and it reminds you of so many things,
and you get the smell from that time?
649
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,835
That's what it's like with
a good gig in a club,
650
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,515
at some point you
get that feeling again,
651
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,549
only that today Szary
is jumping in the crowd.
652
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,479
You always have
to look at the ways as well,
653
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,478
because there are so many bars and I thought:
Dear god, if I stumble over that...
654
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:06,708
And I was really scared that
they would carry me into it.
655
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,475
It was really euphoric.
656
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,398
And it's so cool
how it tickles on your back.
657
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,476
The hands.
658
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:13,870
It's really cool.
659
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,274
And on your arse.
660
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,229
Nice scandinavian rock.
661
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,149
The ice age brought those here.
662
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,680
Szary and I are
a very well-balanced couple,
663
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,875
this is so to speak my second marriage
that I have parallel here.
664
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,232
And he has this inner calm
665
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:10,028
and I always say he has a lot of steadiness
to listen to the things that come out of me
666
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,308
and to process them and then
he has a proposal for solution.
667
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,078
I often know very quickly how things work,
but its often more superficial.
668
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,038
Even if it sounds ridiculous,
but this old Ying-Yang game,
669
00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:32,118
one can do something the other can't
670
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,912
and we complement each other.
671
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,560
In the studio for example,
technical things.
672
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,798
Or our taste in music.
673
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:46,438
We both search
in relatively different areas
674
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:51,350
and with the result
we influence each other, so to speak.
675
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,751
We do have a plan for Modeselektor,
676
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,835
where we definitely want to be
in the next five years,
677
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,192
or if you can talk
of the next ten years even.
678
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,716
That is based on our live shows
on the one hand.
679
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,148
How many things we want to produce
680
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,148
and how will our labels do in ten years.
681
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,750
Nobody knows
how things will develop.
682
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,400
But we want to continue on
683
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,070
with the music.
684
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,110
That is important.
685
00:57:58,520 --> 00:57:59,589
Not dissapear.
686
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,430
And keep the monkey up.
687
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,318
A very good day
ladies and gentlemen.
688
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,556
We are here at a historical place,
the Germany Valley
689
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,997
as you can read here and see there.
690
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,356
In the beautiful state of West Virginia,
in the United States of America.
691
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,069
We are from Germany, too.
692
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,757
And we are searching for the only place
on this planet that is called Monkeytown,
693
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:42,399
and it's a historical fact that it exists,
or existed.
694
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,750
And now we are going to look at it.
695
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,632
We have just been to Monkeytown
696
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,230
and have just talked to what are basically
the last inhabitants of Monkeytown.
697
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,119
We are a little bit speechless now
698
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,631
and will drive back for now.
699
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,312
Monkeytown exists.
700
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:26,831
We started our label Monkeytown parallel
to our involvement with BPitch Control,
701
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:32,353
and we wanted to be fair
and put the deck on the table.
702
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,519
We said to Ellen:
'That is a label that is purely for Siriusmo.'
703
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,028
That was the plan, originally,
704
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,636
just to keep the coolest musician
in Berlin in the family
705
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,038
and to get this family thing back
706
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,869
because we are really close friends with Moritz
and that was really important to us.
707
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,958
I knew in advance, because
we had talked about it quite often,
708
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,996
that they had the idea to found a label
and asked me if BPitch would help them with that.
709
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,155
And I thought about it for a while
710
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,193
and then said:
'No, if you want to create a label, then go do it.'
711
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,477
And I knew from looking at Gernot
that he is a man of action,
712
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,079
he likes to do things himself.
713
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:20,719
He knows so many people, has friends
and the guys can do a lot themselves.
714
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,875
When I see now what they are doing,
it's right like that, I find it wonderful,
715
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,470
I play a lot of their stuff and there is energy in it
and it's also good for Berlin.
716
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:30,271
That is important.
717
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,075
There are not that many labels
that only started in recent years
718
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,430
and are so successful
and have so much energy.
719
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,069
And they share their success with others,
720
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,599
Iike I did too,
721
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:41,790
and still do.
722
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,549
That is music.
723
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,633
And then everything developed
really quickly and it still does.
724
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,638
It is still a process and
that is what's so exciting.
725
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,753
The process within the band
wasn't enough for us anymore,
726
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,032
we wanted to release
other people's music, too.
727
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,395
I always had the feeling that in this whole
environment of Modeselektor and Pfadfinderei,
728
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,388
and in the past also BPitch,
into which I came,
729
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,389
that the whole family thing
was really important
730
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,073
and I was received with
a lot of warmth and really liked that.
731
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:35,919
I think it is like this until today,
732
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,270
it's kind of all amongst friends.
733
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:44,999
When you need someone to work with you,
that is usually a person that you trust,
734
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,829
and the only thing that comes in
from the outside as a new impulse
735
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,951
is music from the outside,
since that is important.
736
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,312
It would be wrong just
to muddle with your buddies.
737
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,114
We do that too, and it's great,
738
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,074
but to do it exclusively would be a big mistake,
because where would you get your influences from.
739
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,111
I wanted to introduce my dog now.
740
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,516
Our dog!
741
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,592
That's Il�nchen.
742
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,872
Il�nchen, say Hello.
743
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:16,635
Ah, great.
744
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,033
Ilona is both our girl.
745
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:22,675
Right?
746
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,948
We actually wanted
to have a doggy as our logo.
747
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,432
Then somehow
the monkey came into play.
748
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,111
Martin from Pfadfinderei invented that.
749
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,279
I had the idea with the three monkeys,
I wanted to change that idea a little,
750
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,234
since the EP was called 'Turn Deaf!'.
751
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,238
And the monkey in the middle
was supposed to block his ears
752
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,954
and the monkeys left and right
where supposed to shout in his ears.
753
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:55,431
Since I didn't want to sketch so exactly
I just made the head rectangular
754
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:03,032
and thought:
Now you have to draw the monkey very precisely,
755
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,949
so it looks like a monkey and only
drew the main part of the monkey face.
756
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,148
I didn't think about it really.
757
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,151
So this is how the motif was created,
the record had its label
758
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:25,350
and the following album had
to happen with the monkey too.
759
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,869
Ever since that's been our logo.
760
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:34,713
There was no marketing firm involved thinking:
How can we create a logo for the guys,
761
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:40,434
so that all kids between 1 8 and 25
recognize it and keep buying it.
762
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:46,317
There had to be
Social Media and Multimedia in the label.
763
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,109
No, it was just punk shit,
764
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:55,189
and that's the reason
we kept the monkey.
765
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,796
We were really surprised
how much people love this monkey.
766
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,949
We noticed quite quickly, that everyone
wanted to have the shirt with the monkey.
767
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,472
And then it started: We got pictures of people
who had a tattoo with the monkey,
768
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,830
made shirts themselves,
made films.
769
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,915
I got a marble bust from a fan
770
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,990
with the monkey chiselled in marble,
its at home in my kitchen.
771
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,036
It weighs 25 kilo.
772
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,952
We got a monkey made of concrete,
we got a knitted jumper monkey,
773
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,675
we got monkeys made of plaster,
of putty,
774
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,155
as dolls, as masks.
775
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,156
Cakes.
776
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:58,952
Monkey-cakes.
777
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,230
We got paintings of the monkey.
778
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:02,759
Big graffitis.
779
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:03,995
Everything.
780
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,316
This monkey really got a tour.
781
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:29,355
For me, a success is for example when someone
who I never met before says to me:
782
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:36,429
'With the song you made
I had a really great experience.'
783
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,672
Or: 'I asked my wife to marry me.'
784
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,599
Or: 'My kids love your music.'
785
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:48,514
When people give a serious and
honest feedback to what you are doing.
786
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,315
Irrespectively of the hype on the internet
787
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:56,910
and all the fast rivers that come and go.
788
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,238
When you just get a good feedback.
789
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,150
So, do you want more?
790
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,592
Do you want more?
791
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,789
You have to shout louder!
792
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,557
I think, that bands can only
be successful over a longer period
793
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,230
when people feel that
there is honesty in it.
794
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,352
That the artists also
live in a real world,
795
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,996
that they are present
and there is not a big difference
796
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,988
between the people who listen to the music
and the ones who make the music
797
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,713
- apart from the creativity.
798
01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:04,032
In the end we are all just guys sitting
in their little cubbyhole and cobble stuff together.
799
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:11,398
And it's really nice every time you come out
of the cubbyhole and it is received with open arms.
800
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:16,355
I think Gernot and Szary
see that the same way.
801
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:11,358
That Modeselektor have become
so successful is also due to hard work,
802
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,551
it didn't come out of the blue.
803
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,911
Don't forget that they
have been around for a few years.
804
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,193
They went on tour for a few years,
805
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:26,032
played an incredible amount
of gigs for little or no money.
806
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,239
Always with fun, with ideas,
807
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,677
but it is a tough job.
808
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,356
The impressive thing
with Modeselektor for me is this mixture
809
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,597
of accessibility and radicalism
at the same time.
810
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:51,756
It sounds like from an add script,
but I think it is the base, their approach to music.
811
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:57,028
They are two clowns
who can rock ten thousands of people
812
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,916
because they rock their laptops
and they aren't afraid to play the clown
813
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,031
in front of such a big crowd.
814
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:10,879
At the same time the musical base
is really solid and also really inspired.
815
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,953
With their development
they have anticipated so much
816
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:19,188
that in the context of Arena-Techno
is day-to-day routine now
817
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,551
and basically it all came from Modeselektor,
818
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,991
only with that musical extra twist
819
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:29,671
and more sensitivity
for balance and experiments.
820
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,912
They managed to create a sound
821
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,395
that is compatible for the masses
and that is still musically exciting
822
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,192
and that is what I find sensational.
823
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,469
I think I see the last ten years as a climax.
824
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,911
It was one pure climax,
with many ups and downs of course.
825
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,156
Cool.
826
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,439
Very philosophical.
827
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,358
I think as a whole,
this decade was very mixed,
828
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:39,913
and I cannot really say:
829
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,079
Of course the gig with Radiohead
at Wuhlheide was great.
830
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,477
That was definitely a climax of 2008.
831
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:56,072
That Radiohead had gotten
interested in us back in 2003 at all.
832
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:59,679
I have to agree with Szary there.
833
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:05,477
If you look at it there is no...
...it is not the Echo (music award)
834
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,952
or a concert in front
of so and so many people.
835
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,959
It's rather the sum of it all.
836
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,789
It's the motorway we are on,
837
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,950
with a fun car...
838
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,633
And lots of road works...
839
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,555
With lots of road works,
but still always going too fast
840
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,910
and so far without too many fines.
841
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:31,795
Exactly, great.
842
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:35,714
Thank you!
71193
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