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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,153 Hello. 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,114 We are probably the most popular pop duo from Berlin. 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,073 This is Basti Szary and this is Gernot Bronsert. 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,270 And we have known each other for quite a long time, round about 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,514 Wait, let's do that again: 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,950 Do I actually look into the camera or do I look at you? 7 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:30,480 For the first time I met Szary was over there, 8 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,908 by the chimney. 9 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,872 That's where our first school was, 10 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,672 where we went together. 11 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,236 And I have seen one of his binders once with his name written on it in graffiti. 12 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,749 It was on the table of the teacher in the music class 13 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,032 and it said Sebastian Szary in graffiti writing and I thought: 14 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,629 Woah. Cool dude. 15 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,396 We both grew up east of Berlin. 16 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,512 One town is called Woltersdorf, that is where Gernot is from. 17 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,952 I, Szary, am from R�dersdorf. 18 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,950 Early childhood memories 19 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,519 are quite happy ones. 20 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,394 You biked around a lot, and spend a lot of time on the water. 21 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,798 The entire region is crisscrossed with canals and lakes 22 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,032 and there was a lot of forest. 23 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,390 Basically, you spend a lot of time out in nature. 24 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,592 Until Techno arrived. 25 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,997 Woltersdorf is kind of a spa town, you could say. 26 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,476 It's like a place of pilgrimage for all the people from Berlin 27 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,353 who want to put their feet in the water at the weekends. 28 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,151 R�dersdorf has always been quite industrial. 29 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,920 Here, where we are now, 30 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,918 used to be the limestone-open-pit mine, the cement-chemical plant, 31 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,031 so this was kind of where the industry was. 32 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:51,638 Woltersdorf had no industry at all. 33 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:54,991 They maybe had an industry of gastronomy, 34 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:56,794 but not really. 35 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,790 That used to be the difference between R�dersdorf and Woltersdorf. 36 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:11,479 That the world of electronic music 37 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,154 in which we work now, 38 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,351 that that works for us 39 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,393 is due first and foremost 40 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,878 to certain circumstances have led 41 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,868 to the possibilities that we had. 42 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,389 It was definitely an important period here. 43 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,916 When I got to know Gernot, know properly, 44 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,031 with hanging out afterwards... 45 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,195 With getting naked! 46 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,755 With getting naked was: 47 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,993 It sounds late, 48 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,953 it was 1 996. 49 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,475 I was working in construction back then. 50 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,274 I was up on the roof and had to nail. 51 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,992 A friend passed by, I don't even remember who else was there. 52 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,952 Anyways, Gernot stood there too and he said: 53 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,628 'Ey, Szary, when will you finish, come down for a moment.' 54 00:05:57,840 --> 00:05:59,751 And I said: 'Half an hour to go.' 55 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:02,030 And you guys waited down there and I came down 56 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,360 with my chapped hands and a blue nail 57 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,913 from hitting it with the hammer. 58 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,872 And then we drove off. 59 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,310 I think we went to my place, my shed. 60 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,795 In any case, we chilled out 61 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,075 and listened to music. 62 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:18,679 - I had records with me. - You brought records. 63 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:19,710 This is where it all started. 64 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,390 I can show you, to trace out the dimensions 65 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,875 ...a slightly ruinous attic. 66 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,836 Anyway this used to be my studio, it was full of instruments. 67 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,190 Keyboards, drum machines, Atari. 68 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,557 Back then it was still pretty clean. 69 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:49,675 The shed was originally a workshop, a storage for building materials 70 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,919 that his Dad put there and at some point we started to use it, 71 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,436 rebuilt and insulated it, 72 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,915 took out some pillars, 73 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,633 put down a concrete floor 74 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:06,595 so we could have parties in it and were able to sleep over. 75 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:17,228 It was like, at about 1 0, 1 1, 1 1.30 in the evening the party up there started 76 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:22,355 and music blared, basses were turned up 77 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,235 and those basses permeated through all the walls. 78 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,750 So I came out to the shed in my nightgown at midnight and said: 79 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,757 'Turn off the bass, 80 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,155 we can't listen to it anymore, we can't sleep!' 81 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,478 Well, that's how it was. 82 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,632 When it comes to music you couldn't see it coming with Sebastian. 83 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,908 He was experimenting a lot, 84 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,910 had new ideas everyday, but none of them was music. 85 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,439 He couldn't really sing either. 86 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,837 He got a "satisfactory' I think in musical education. 87 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,918 And for being able to read sheet music, 88 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,793 since no one in the family plays an instrument, 89 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,479 he couldn't do that either. 90 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,240 Well, but with that music today you don't really need that at all. 91 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,393 Basti listened to the radio. 92 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,513 What was it? DT64, Monika Dietl as well 93 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,550 and he tape-recorded it all and analysed it, 94 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,069 and that was electronic music, 95 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,276 Rave. 96 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,756 I don't know what you used to call it back the exactly. 97 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,950 Immediately after reunification it was like that: 98 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,799 I finished school after ten years, without the A-levels 99 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,992 and went immediately on to do the apprenticeship in the concrete factory in R�dersdorf 100 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,758 and earned my first money 101 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,511 that I went on to spend immediately every Thursday in a record shop called Hardwax. 102 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,752 I still lived at Mum's place. 103 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,679 And at some point I wanted to know: How do you make that kind of music? 104 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,078 A relatively short time later you knew with what kinds of devices you made that music. 105 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,395 There were only two of them: 106 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,828 TR 808 and TB 303. 107 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,709 Of course, some time later you had a whole armada of devices. 108 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,117 In those days you still ordered the devices by telephone somewhere. 109 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:06,591 Until then you could keep it secret, 110 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,678 but then came the package. 111 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,430 And you also had to pay the postman. 112 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:15,956 I was just shocked and thought that cannot end well. 113 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,071 It cannot end well with all the records 114 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,395 and equipment and keyboards and what else the stuff was that he bought. 115 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,794 It was pretty upsetting for me. 116 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,954 However for him it was his hobby and very important to him. 117 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,712 We drove to Berlin, to Tresor in late 1 990, early 1 991, 118 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,673 and then also to Frankfurt/Oder, to Rauen... 119 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,590 ...wherever we had enough petrol to go to. 120 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,716 Influenced by that Techno hype that had been growing in Berlin as well, 121 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:56,075 we tried to establish our own stinking cellar in R�dersdorf. 122 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,992 Since there were so many vacancies, 123 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,191 they had in the old buildings 124 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,073 We are in one of those areas right now, 125 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,679 this is the Seilscheibenpfeiler, 126 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,031 an old building in which in the 1 9th century 127 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,233 the lorries filled with limestone came up from the pit 128 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,718 to be put onto ships or over into the cement plant. 129 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,270 So right there were three empty houses that were completely broken-down, 130 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,915 without windows, roofs partly collapsed. 131 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,829 And since it was my way to work, I cycled to the cement plant every day, 132 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,198 I passed the houses every day, 133 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,358 and some day I went in there and had a look and thought: 134 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,399 Perfect, here in this basement we should really have a party. 135 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,955 So me and my friend, Thomas Richter 136 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,512 I drove there, didn't call, back then you actually met in person. 137 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,709 And said: 'Come on Thomas, we have to clean up the basement.' 138 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,275 There was lots of coal dust and old metal shelves. 139 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,473 So every day at about 3 pm, after work, 140 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,869 we started sowing the shelves apart with makeshift hacksaws. 141 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,514 and nobody noticed even though it was really loud. 142 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,676 Then we shovelled all the stuff out 143 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,879 and then came the D-Day. 144 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,916 So, today is the 30st October and Seilscheibenpfeiler happens 145 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,680 for the last time this year, so let's go up there and have a look, right? 146 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,630 Come on! 147 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,399 It was completely dark in there. 148 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,555 There were two floors. 149 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:19,790 A House floor. 150 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,831 And a Techno floor. A Gabber floor. 151 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,314 Exactly. Hardcore. 152 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,070 There were only strobes and haze. 153 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,349 Those were great parties. 154 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:35,993 People got excited. 155 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,510 And in the end the feeling was: 156 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,790 It was pure. 157 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:43,635 Pure Techno. 158 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,997 I perceived the Seilscheibenpfeiler parties and the following parties 159 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,670 from a completely different perspective than Szary for example. 160 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:58,676 I was a guest. 161 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,358 I could look more objectively at the result, 162 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,637 at what a party can do to young people, 163 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,512 what it did to me. 164 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,516 We did some live acts then as well. 165 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,639 Didn't prepare anything, just go, take the machines, 166 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,110 any sequence and off you go. 167 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,150 People were happy, 168 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,272 I was happy, too and I think it was still terribly boring. 169 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,949 Basti however was great, 170 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,390 you could dance with it and it was really balanced. 171 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,672 He had breaks too, where the music was quiet 172 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,309 and there were just strings. 173 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,037 And from my side that was rather envy: 174 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,674 How does he do it, that's what I wanted to know, 175 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,711 but he didn't really respond. 176 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,070 So. The morning after: 177 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,311 The only survivor of the party 178 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,514 and the only one who at least does some work. 179 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,157 The rest fucked off again. 180 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,872 I know that I was here twice. 181 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,111 Then the whole thing moved 182 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:29,149 and this na�ve boys-shed-construction site-Techno-mixture developed 183 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,837 into some type of hype 184 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,793 and it inspired lots of people 185 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,397 and there were more parties, in the potato silo amongst others, 186 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,479 where it was really dusty and you couldn't stay in long. 187 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,999 Then there were parties in the Z1, the cement plant one, 188 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,636 in an old coal-pulveriser where it was also incredibly dirty 189 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:59,796 and then it became more official, and bigger 190 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,109 and then some money was invested 191 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,995 and the whole thing moved to the Kulturhaus in R�dersdorf. 192 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:14,475 Here we organized the bigger raves in R�dersdorf from 1 994 onwards 193 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,319 - the really official ones. 194 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:18,232 There were lots of people involved, 195 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:24,157 and lots of people in the end means obscure accounting. 196 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,952 We had to pay tax for example. 197 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,354 Until then: What? 198 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,318 Nobody ever did it before. 199 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,478 And it worked for a while, was quite nice, 200 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,639 but then a certain greediness 201 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,229 from certain people set in, 202 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,476 and the group split. 203 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,438 It stopped fairly soon afterwards. 204 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,393 I think in late 1 995 we had the last party here. 205 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,558 So basically, it kept going for 1 � years. 206 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,429 Before I started getting into music seriously 207 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,632 I also did other things, like skateboarding and spraying graffiti. 208 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,876 I also went to school in Berlin. 209 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,872 But when I witnessed 210 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,513 the first Techno parties here, 211 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,996 that touched me somehow, it did something with me. 212 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,957 It was so overwhelming that after that point there was nothing else for me. 213 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,029 Gernot and I always went to the parties together, 214 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,515 then spent the time separately 215 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,990 and in the end went home together. 216 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,395 That's how it always went. 217 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,919 It was fascinating to experience this new type of music 218 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,672 basically around the corner, kind of in the middle of the forest 219 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,755 and Gernot was always crazier about it 220 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:05,671 than me or other people and wanted to experience it with every fibre of his body. 221 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,309 Our Gernot could not yet walk properly 222 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:20,077 when he started to bang his wooden toys in a rhythm 223 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,671 and sing really like a jazz-musician: 224 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:30,238 'There was a man, who poo-pooed in his bed.' 225 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,798 In different kind of rhythms 226 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,230 and he was still very small then. 227 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,589 We thought that he was going to be a musician 228 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,390 - even the minister said during his christening: 229 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,591 'He'll be a great musician!' - 230 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,555 so we send him to piano lessons: 231 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,791 Big fiasco. 232 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,513 In about 3rd or 4th class I was proud owner of a Technotronic tape, 233 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,435 I went to bed with it and woke up to it in the morning. 234 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,471 I was listening to it non-stop 235 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,755 and after some Techno socialisation 236 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,793 and underground parties where Szary was too, 237 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,070 I started to get more into it 238 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,919 and basically had my first DJ gigs at home in my bedroom. 239 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,959 I think Gernot's parents always said: 'Just do it.' 240 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,109 His Dad is a scientist, 241 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:38,715 he always sat downstairs in his office 242 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,790 and Gernot was playing music upstairs 243 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,275 and that was alright. 244 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,910 I think they rather encouraged him 245 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:49,475 to do what he really wanted to do. 246 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,152 My father once threatened me with a wooden slat because I made so much noise. 247 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:56,511 He was working in his study, he always had to write a lot, 248 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,678 and I had the music really loud in my room... 249 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,071 Something was being built in the staircase 250 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,315 and there were these slats, 251 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,751 and Dad got really angry and stood there with a slat, all distraught. 252 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,512 What surprised my parents I think was, that after weeks of slaving away on building sites 253 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:21,068 while I was still in school and on summer holidays I just bought a record player with the money. 254 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,034 And the next summer holidays I did the same to buy a second one. 255 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,151 That was a bit hard to understand. 256 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:31,909 And then I had these two record players but no money left to buy records. 257 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,396 I had about 40 records, I still remember that, 258 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,672 and I always put them up in a way that I can see them all and I knew them by heart. 259 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:44,790 Then I saw in videos that the Scratch DJs put labels on them, 260 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,879 but I didn't know why, but I still put labels on my records too, because it looked cool, 261 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,674 and then I understood what they were for. 262 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:58,115 Szary was DJing in the Z1 at that time and also played his own tracks 263 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,635 that he produced back then 264 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,789 and Gernot admired that, 265 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:11,995 but Gernot was nobody who just took for granted: 266 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,715 'He is the DJ now and...' 267 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,670 This type of looking up to someone he never did, 268 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,836 he was rather interested in: 269 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,473 How do I get there, 270 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,999 I want to do that too, and what's the fastest way to get there. 271 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:39,716 After school I had absolutely no idea what I wanted to do, 272 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,553 To be honest I kind of screwed up in school 273 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:49,353 due to too many out of school activities: 274 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,595 Techno. 275 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:59,188 Then I decided to go to Berlin to university of applied sciences for social pedagogy 276 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,077 and to do a degree as child care teacher for five years. 277 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,236 The cool thing there was that it was full of guys like me 278 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,238 who didn't really know what to do with their lives, 279 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,110 but most of them were musicians. 280 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:22,075 That's where I met the most musicians and people interested in music. 281 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,391 Amongst others I met Gordon there 282 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,719 who also works for us, for Monkeytown and goes on tour as well, 283 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,472 and with him I had a band called Illuminati, 284 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,156 that was my first band before Modeselektor, I already knew Szary then. 285 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,831 I don't actually know anything about computers. 286 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:55,430 With Gernot it was obvious that he had something to do with music when he came there, 287 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,551 or rather we both had something to do with music, 288 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,910 so it became a topic quite soon. 289 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,029 And since we did a lot together, 290 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,159 not just at school, it was also a subject matter 291 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,118 it was always present. 292 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:41,076 We are in Brest. 293 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,070 Pukkelpop. 294 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:43,836 In Belgium. 295 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,756 In Austria. 296 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,551 PITCH Festival. 297 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,510 Bloc Festival. 298 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,994 Somewhere in Brittany. 299 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:48,871 Zagreb. 300 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,876 Amsterdam. 301 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,115 Denmark. Roskilde. 302 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,309 Down with that, down. 303 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,557 Today a big concert in Eberswalde-Finow with Major Lazer and A-Trak. 304 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:56,397 Mexico. 305 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,079 Guadalajara. 306 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,430 Guadalajara. 307 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,875 Guadalajara. 308 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,751 Bagdad. 309 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,957 Such a Modeselektor track often sounds quite simple. 310 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,551 And that's why they make such an impact in the live version, 311 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,955 because it's clear music, that's to the point. 312 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,914 And that is the highest quality music can have in this kind of context. 313 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,316 Somehow we are the band of course, 314 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,114 but we do have a pretty equal footed relationship with the crew. 315 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,598 We talk about the tracklists together, 316 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,639 and they really have become our friends. 317 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:04,236 You get to know each other really well on tour. 318 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,353 You are very close all the time, and very often in extreme situations. 319 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,155 Are we allowed to smoke here? 320 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,831 She said we don't have to put the seatbelts on. 321 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,195 It's not that bad. 322 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,910 Whether it be the journey on the sleeper bus or a flight: 323 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:42,274 Shortly before departure I always send a text message 324 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,956 to my wife and my mother: 325 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:46,996 'Hello!' 326 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,757 Every time? 327 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,358 Yes. 328 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,118 And I also send a text message saying: 329 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,548 'We arrived safely.' 330 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,233 They are short phrases, 331 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,398 but they really calm down I have noticed. 332 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,750 Guys, the gig starts. 333 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,317 Will I go to the bathroom again or not? 334 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,669 I'm not sure. 335 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,958 Yes, I am nervous. 336 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,234 I am worried again, that nobody turns up today. 337 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,436 Leave me alone, I am nervous now. Quiet. 338 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,878 - It is always like that. - Ey, it's enough, leave my buddy alone. 339 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,799 - It's always like that. - Gernot, Gernot, it will be alright. 340 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,915 My wife is totally important to me 341 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,076 - she is my earth anchor. 342 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:52,319 When I do some remix for this and that band with Szary 343 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,119 and come home and euphorically want to tell her what a great remix I am doing, 344 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,755 she just nods at how great it is what I do and then hands me the shopping list 345 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,918 and sends me off to get some milk. 346 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,151 It is really cool to have a family, 347 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:14,638 because it connects you to reality, 348 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,070 the reality that is important. 349 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:28,910 We never were the Jacks-of-all-trades who jumped from one groupie to the next 350 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,634 and went to one after show party after the other, 351 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:38,916 it was always more like we kept a little Shire within ourselves. 352 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,872 Our nice little Shire 353 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,993 with little sheep and cows 354 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,032 and little monkeys of course. 355 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,150 In the end, we are two 356 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,153 We are country bumpkins in a way. 357 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,398 Don't know, it's... 358 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,798 I just want to prove that you can create a lot out of nothing. 359 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,834 That you can achieve a lot with little means 360 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,952 and we always try to convey 361 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,113 that everyone else also boil their damn tea with only water. 362 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,990 I moved to Berlin early 1 998, 363 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,269 to the Mitte district 364 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,119 in an incredibly large flat share. 365 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,356 First of all I went to school in Berlin, 366 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,028 and then there was also a lot going on in Berlin already. 367 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,596 And then I had to cut the cord with my parents. 368 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,356 So we lived in that flat share for a while and lived of Kebabs. 369 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,236 Above us a flat with the same layout was up for new tenants. 370 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,076 It just happened that I told Szary the flat was free 371 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,878 and he moved in with three friends from Berlin-Buch. 372 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,554 Also three musicians. 373 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,758 It was a real musician flat share up there, 374 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,077 everyone had a tiny studio in his room, 375 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,918 and we became neighbours. 376 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,437 There was always a lot of movement upstairs and downstairs, 377 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,517 and usually you met at Szary's place, who always refilled his coffee pot 378 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,317 and already knew how to make a really good espresso. 379 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,632 Our circle of friends grew much bigger all of a sudden. 380 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,628 First of all, we had the biggest flat, then we constantly had parties, 381 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,597 it was like the pivotal point, because we had the space for it. 382 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,597 During that time we met most of the friends we have now. 383 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,515 It was a great atmosphere. 384 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,871 I think that influenced the guys a lot, too. 385 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,954 There were 1 5 people in one spot, who were all very creative in different areas. 386 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,517 We had a puppeteer, the Pfadfinder, musicians, 387 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,475 I came from a classical background, always did my vocal exercises. 388 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,671 It was a wild mix. 389 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,959 Labstyle came in 1 998 and was in the Kurvenstar club once a week, 390 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,439 it was really important for our musical development. 391 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,874 Our motto has always been: See with your ears and listen with your eyes. 392 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,638 And then we had two floors in this tiny club that had two rooms, 393 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,273 so we always had two bookings. 394 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,517 One at the front, at the bar, and one booking in the back. 395 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,673 Szary and I used to be the main DJs 396 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,754 together with Skate, 397 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,317 still with Paul Kuhn back then 398 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,875 and Krsn. 399 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:09,839 And the Pfadfinder did some visuals with VHS tapes and video projector, 400 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,678 that was quite funny usually. 401 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:18,071 They piled shoeboxes full of VHS tapes and then off they went. 402 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:18,911 Again. 403 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,519 Wait, what I find really cool is to just fall like that. 404 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,634 Yeah, great. 405 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,356 Do it again. 406 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,109 Kurvenstar, Labstyle for us was like a playground most of all, 407 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,958 a playground we had built ourselves. 408 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,359 We all had no idea really, no future vision, we just wanted to do it. 409 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:55,038 We were keen on doing it and invited everyone to observe us doing it, 410 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,630 or to get involved themselves, or invite all friends 411 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,709 just to have a good evening and it didn't have a commercial outlook. 412 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,353 We just wanted to have a playground 413 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,518 where we could play out all the stuff that we had in our heads, 414 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,349 because we are all children of the 1 990s Berlin Techno 415 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,396 and wanted to realise the ideas we had in our head. 416 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,951 Every Thursday we completely changed the whole place. 417 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,639 It never looked the same. 418 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,595 It was extremely eclectic. 419 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,190 There was any kind of electronic music, 420 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,999 a lot of non-Techno and non-House. 421 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,308 In my memories it was the coolest series you could have imagined. 422 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,310 They had an audience that they themselves had educated and that never eloped them. 423 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,193 I didn't know that from any other club night. 424 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,555 They could play Bonzai Rave Techno 425 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,990 and then abruptly switch over 426 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:14,354 to Otto von Schirach type of noise, Hip-Hop or whatever. 427 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,639 Nobody else could do that, as far as I remember. 428 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,110 Some day we left Kurvenstar for the WMF Club, 429 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,957 so in the end there was quite a healthy growth. 430 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:49,109 Then there was the Labland DVD, because after two years or so we thought: 431 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:55,793 What we generate here is nice, but transient, because its only ever for one night, 432 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,639 so let us cement it 433 00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:01,834 and put into one product. 434 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:08,395 So we sat down with Modeselektor and produced an audio-visual album. 435 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,471 I think that the continuity in the collaboration 436 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,831 between Modeselektor and Pfadfinderei is something very special. 437 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,596 It has been going on for a very very long time 438 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:39,590 and I would say the equal status that we accredit to each other is very important. 439 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:49,519 The trust into the genre, the chapter that you describe is quite large, 440 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,910 and that definitely gives Gernot and Szary security 441 00:35:55,240 --> 00:36:00,951 and we have repeatedly gotten good inspiration from it as well, 442 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,720 to create something new. 443 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,239 At the moment we are in the so called ALL, 444 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,072 that is short for Allende Club. 445 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,671 it used to be a youth club in Berlin-K�penick. 446 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:39,752 In this house I used to work on a job-creation scheme from 1 998 to 2001, 447 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,318 it was called SAM structural adaptation measure. 448 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,748 Looks a little different. 449 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,188 Different colour. 450 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,836 Formerly the studio was... Here used to be a wall. 451 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,510 And this was the studio area. 452 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,279 I knew Szary from DJing, 453 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,110 we always played in the ALL on Wednesdays for example, 454 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,549 or in the Blaupunkt Bar in Mitte, at the same time as Kurvenstar was taking place. 455 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:13,433 And he always seemed like the most fitting guy for the job, 456 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:19,192 because his social streak always showed that he was a good choice. 457 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,840 The core job was to take care of a room 458 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,669 to which the youngsters could come with their ideas, to make beats 459 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,276 - it was mainly a Hip-Hop background here - 460 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,148 to record their raps and create mixtapes. 461 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:56,275 Szary always used to mix all my important projects. 462 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,236 That happened, because he is and always has been an ace in that area 463 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,749 and we all knew that and we 464 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,751 - I don't want to say kneeled in the dust before him - 465 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,155 but we all said: 'Can you help us with this or that? ' 466 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,872 And it was like that back then too and particularly the experimental bands loved recording with him. 467 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,991 And he also had the assignment from the youth club, 468 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,112 so he was employed to do it. 469 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,391 We're like locusts here. 470 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,552 So now we found it after all. 471 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,038 There are no titles on this unfortunately. 472 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:35,838 And this is the very first Elektroheadz. From the year I think also No, 1 999. 473 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:43,671 Same basic principle: Bands, young artists or musicians who were still going to be musicians 474 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,474 came to my studio and tried themselves out. 475 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,349 I went to school in Berlin-K�penick. 476 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,911 That's how there was a connection to the Allende club, 477 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,918 because it was the central point 478 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,030 for all the DJs, skateboarder, graffiti artists, bands, whatever. 479 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:08,758 During my pedagogical education I did a year long internship here. 480 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:18,477 In the years 1 998 to 2001 during this job, 481 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,672 we did normal stuff with the youths, 482 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,352 usually when Gernot was working here as well 483 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,355 it was like that: Let's stay on a bit after finishing time. 484 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,235 And usually we went home at 5 am with the first metro. 485 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,396 So, basically we used the studio ourselves, 486 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,832 because we did not yet have our own studio to try out our ideas. 487 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:45,711 Many of our friends, other musicians, Siriusmo for example 488 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,594 who was from the same background as us, came by. 489 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,032 We just hung out a lot and tried out a lot. And stayed up all night. 490 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,669 At that time there was not only the ALL, we already had a weekly thing in the Kurvenstar. 491 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,952 It was like a parallel universe what we had. 492 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,550 We had our own, but never our own studio, 493 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,670 and that's what we had here. 494 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,874 And above all it was that we had... Think about the responsibilities. 495 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:18,510 We didn't have children yet, no company, we just lived the moment. 496 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,794 - I don't miss that life - 497 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,313 somehow it was the complete opposite to the relatively organised thing we do today. 498 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,552 It was also exciting. This is how we really learned to make music. 499 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,558 By dealing with things for a long time. 500 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,520 Technical things, sound and so on. 501 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,359 It was learning by doing. 502 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,036 There was no concept. We didn't have a release in the back of our minds, 503 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:50,711 but it was just trying things, experimenting. 504 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,354 This is how our way to work has developed, 505 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,272 in this room here 506 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,750 if you want. 507 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,315 I believe this is where the name Modeselektor was created. 508 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,196 We already had this Roland Space Echo in this studio back then 509 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,312 and it was like: Well, what are we going to call ourselves. 510 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,158 It says Mode Selector there, let's take that. 511 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,237 For me the beginning of Modeselektor was like a transition phase. 512 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,675 Basti and Gernot were DJing a lot together 513 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,476 and at some point it was established that they make music together. 514 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,435 I noticed that there were two completely different characters. 515 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,235 Basti as a relatively quiet, even-tempered guy. 516 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,513 And Gernot who brings in all that energy. 517 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,908 The incredible thing is that that was brought Modeselektor forward, 518 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,795 because if Gernot hadn't been there for Basti, 519 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:59,037 Basti would have probably worked his way up with smaller not quite as intensive things. 520 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:02,038 Gernot I think was the one who pushed Basti as well. 521 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,475 I think at that time there was a special spirit. 522 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,911 It was the generation of the kids who grew up after the reunification, 523 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,953 who had their childhood during the past GDR years 524 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,516 but then sort of came into this emptiness of the reunification, 525 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,712 who grew up in a bubble. 526 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,193 Back then there was this sort of lawlessness and we just did things. 527 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,319 "Where Modeselektor and their notebooks arrive, aggression is pre-programmed. 528 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,078 In a purely musical sense of course. 529 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,950 So the two former Public Enemy fans create rhythmical sound fronts, 530 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,630 whose heavy basses occasionally might alarm the police. 531 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,350 As it happens last year in the Berlin Club Central." 532 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,959 You met more and more people, and those people noticed: 533 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,754 Ah, they are called Modeselektor, 534 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,473 they make cool music, they have to release something. 535 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,199 That for example took a very long time, until we finally gave our first demo 536 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:18,157 to Ellen Allien from BPitch Control. 537 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,713 To the boss. 538 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,234 Took about a year. 539 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,795 I think it started in the year 2000 or so 540 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,833 one of the Pfadfinder told me a lot about Modeselektor. 541 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,512 That they have a few buddies who make great music. 542 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:37,990 And at some stage I said: Yes I'd like to meet them, they can drop by. 543 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,679 I can't even remember if they did drop by. 544 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,519 Anyways, I heard them at some event 545 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:47,794 and thought they were really interesting because they have a lot of energy together. 546 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,198 And when I looked at them in that small venue I thought: 547 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,154 Wow, they are really behind what they are doing. They love that music, that is their life. 548 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,838 I had not seen guys who got so into it in a long time. 549 00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:05,235 And then they gave me their first tracks, or one anyways, 550 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,117 and I think I even asked them: 'Don't you want to do a record on BPitch? ' 551 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,789 And that really took a while, until that was there. 552 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,753 I rang them a few times, and they came to the office 553 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,595 and I asked: 'Guys, what's with the record? ' 554 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:39,511 We rented a small room there, that was maybe eight or nine square meters, 555 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,669 in the same house, 556 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,995 and it was triangular. 557 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,872 Pretty good for a studio. 558 00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:48,391 Or bad? Who knows? 559 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,239 Back then the acoustics weren't that important to us, 560 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,510 and then we made our music there. 561 00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:57,474 So we were always in touch with BPitch anyway, 562 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,079 because it was in the same house. 563 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,157 So one thing led to another. 564 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,632 Then we gave her the demo CD, but that track was really bad, 565 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,193 we got no feedback. 566 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,755 Then we kept talking, 567 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,555 and we got four tracks ready and she promptly released them. 568 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:19,068 That was our first EP 'In Loving Memory', BPitch Control Number 042 in 2002. 569 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,551 The record is called like that because a good friend of mine and Szary 570 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,150 who we went to E-Werk with a lot, died around that time: 571 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,998 Enny, rest in peace. 572 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,555 He was a really cool guy, but he was very sick unfortunately. 573 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:43,398 And I always liked the idea of putting on something like a combat gear on the subway 574 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,673 and come out of a manhole cover into a destroyed world. 575 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,677 Listen, we just put them on now temporarily. 576 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,236 We stay like this and walk in with the things, and walk through the train 577 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,793 and you go ahead. 578 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,709 We walk through the masses so we get the reaction of people. 579 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,799 Coz they will shit their pants thinking it's a robbery or anthrax or 580 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,235 Come on 581 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:58,357 When Modeselektor came to BPitch it was not like I discovered them as a super A&R 582 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,199 who got the artists off the road, 583 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:03,870 it was more a kind of family thing in a way, 584 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:10,269 a network that emerged from the same musical interests. 585 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,758 You could say that Ellen used to have a... I don't want to call it a mothering role, 586 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:23,390 but she definitely educated us young rough artists in some way. 587 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,636 Ellen Allien from BPitch was definitely very important for Modeselektor. 588 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,156 Just by giving them a platform. 589 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,911 It was already an established label. 590 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,877 And Ellen realized things that the boys wanted 591 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,073 and basically gave them complete artistic freedom. 592 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,197 She did smooth the way for them. 593 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,516 Also through her international contacts. 594 00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:55,278 I don't know if the guys 595 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,155 would have been positioned internationally so early on without BPitch. 596 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,476 She took them on tour as well. 597 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,230 The label had an international position. That was definitely important. 598 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,159 At that time, most people wanted Ellen, 599 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,512 so we tried to have BPitch nights where they also could play. 600 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,390 But there were some promoters from the start 601 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,156 who wanted the music of Modeselektor, who wanted to book Modeselektor. 602 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,958 There was a small world tour in May 2006, 603 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,110 four weeks long. 604 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,151 With an Around the World Ticket. 605 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,509 I would not be allowed to book that anymore now, 606 00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:41,114 but back then it was my first big thing and for Modeselektor it was also the first big thing. 607 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,716 I would almost argue that the success of Modeselektor 608 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:58,234 was based first and foremost on the live shows, 609 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,115 because they got so big at some stage. 610 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,714 Of course the life on tour is a great motivation. 611 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,831 It's still great 612 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,759 to say on Friday: 'Bye! 613 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,191 Daddy is back on Sunday, or Monday, depending.' 614 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,077 And then you are in a parallel universe, 615 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,596 on the tourbus, on the plane... 616 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,635 There's the crew, it's really fun. 617 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,680 I really like knowing nobody can see me through the dark glass 618 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,310 and it's comfortable, 619 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,078 you really get mad with all this flying. 620 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,397 All those airports, you don't have that here. 621 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,955 You can go directly from your bed into the club. 622 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,434 It's great. 623 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:42,430 The only thing missing is chicken flying directly into your mouth. 624 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,149 Hubi! Get up! 625 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,071 I get woken up by this person, 626 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,989 me being a nice guy who has bloody fingers 627 00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:59,631 from scratching on all the doors making it possible for you to play. 628 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,353 Nobody wants to hear you really, 629 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,278 I always have to beg: 'Please let them play. 630 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,392 I know it's not your taste, 631 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,797 and people don't really like it either.' 632 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,318 Nobody needs to know. 633 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,239 Here we go again. 634 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,875 I have to go along with it. 635 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,072 When Szary always wears such shit I have to go along. 636 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,390 Else I am just being labeled as a nerd. 637 00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,674 You have to ask Szary. 638 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,956 I think round about 450 or 500. During our career. 639 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,516 It doesn't sound like a lot, Gernot would probably say it's the 700th. 640 00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:11,712 850. 641 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,273 What, 850? 642 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,471 I guess it was 850. 643 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,477 What? 644 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,908 I won't tell what. 645 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,719 I thought it was great today. I knew it somehow. 646 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,989 You know the feeling, when you open an old book and you find something 647 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,589 that you used as a page marker a long time ago, 648 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,112 and it reminds you of so many things, and you get the smell from that time? 649 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,835 That's what it's like with a good gig in a club, 650 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,515 at some point you get that feeling again, 651 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,549 only that today Szary is jumping in the crowd. 652 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,479 You always have to look at the ways as well, 653 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,478 because there are so many bars and I thought: Dear god, if I stumble over that... 654 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:06,708 And I was really scared that they would carry me into it. 655 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,475 It was really euphoric. 656 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,398 And it's so cool how it tickles on your back. 657 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,476 The hands. 658 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:13,870 It's really cool. 659 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,274 And on your arse. 660 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,229 Nice scandinavian rock. 661 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,149 The ice age brought those here. 662 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,680 Szary and I are a very well-balanced couple, 663 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,875 this is so to speak my second marriage that I have parallel here. 664 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,232 And he has this inner calm 665 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:10,028 and I always say he has a lot of steadiness to listen to the things that come out of me 666 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,308 and to process them and then he has a proposal for solution. 667 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,078 I often know very quickly how things work, but its often more superficial. 668 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,038 Even if it sounds ridiculous, but this old Ying-Yang game, 669 00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:32,118 one can do something the other can't 670 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,912 and we complement each other. 671 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,560 In the studio for example, technical things. 672 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,798 Or our taste in music. 673 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:46,438 We both search in relatively different areas 674 00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:51,350 and with the result we influence each other, so to speak. 675 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,751 We do have a plan for Modeselektor, 676 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,835 where we definitely want to be in the next five years, 677 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,192 or if you can talk of the next ten years even. 678 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,716 That is based on our live shows on the one hand. 679 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,148 How many things we want to produce 680 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,148 and how will our labels do in ten years. 681 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,750 Nobody knows how things will develop. 682 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,400 But we want to continue on 683 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,070 with the music. 684 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,110 That is important. 685 00:57:58,520 --> 00:57:59,589 Not dissapear. 686 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,430 And keep the monkey up. 687 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,318 A very good day ladies and gentlemen. 688 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,556 We are here at a historical place, the Germany Valley 689 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,997 as you can read here and see there. 690 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,356 In the beautiful state of West Virginia, in the United States of America. 691 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,069 We are from Germany, too. 692 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,757 And we are searching for the only place on this planet that is called Monkeytown, 693 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:42,399 and it's a historical fact that it exists, or existed. 694 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,750 And now we are going to look at it. 695 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,632 We have just been to Monkeytown 696 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,230 and have just talked to what are basically the last inhabitants of Monkeytown. 697 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,119 We are a little bit speechless now 698 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,631 and will drive back for now. 699 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,312 Monkeytown exists. 700 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:26,831 We started our label Monkeytown parallel to our involvement with BPitch Control, 701 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:32,353 and we wanted to be fair and put the deck on the table. 702 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,519 We said to Ellen: 'That is a label that is purely for Siriusmo.' 703 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,028 That was the plan, originally, 704 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,636 just to keep the coolest musician in Berlin in the family 705 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,038 and to get this family thing back 706 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,869 because we are really close friends with Moritz and that was really important to us. 707 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,958 I knew in advance, because we had talked about it quite often, 708 00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,996 that they had the idea to found a label and asked me if BPitch would help them with that. 709 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,155 And I thought about it for a while 710 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,193 and then said: 'No, if you want to create a label, then go do it.' 711 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,477 And I knew from looking at Gernot that he is a man of action, 712 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,079 he likes to do things himself. 713 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:20,719 He knows so many people, has friends and the guys can do a lot themselves. 714 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,875 When I see now what they are doing, it's right like that, I find it wonderful, 715 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,470 I play a lot of their stuff and there is energy in it and it's also good for Berlin. 716 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:30,271 That is important. 717 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,075 There are not that many labels that only started in recent years 718 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,430 and are so successful and have so much energy. 719 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,069 And they share their success with others, 720 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,599 Iike I did too, 721 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:41,790 and still do. 722 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,549 That is music. 723 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,633 And then everything developed really quickly and it still does. 724 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,638 It is still a process and that is what's so exciting. 725 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,753 The process within the band wasn't enough for us anymore, 726 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,032 we wanted to release other people's music, too. 727 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,395 I always had the feeling that in this whole environment of Modeselektor and Pfadfinderei, 728 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,388 and in the past also BPitch, into which I came, 729 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,389 that the whole family thing was really important 730 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,073 and I was received with a lot of warmth and really liked that. 731 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:35,919 I think it is like this until today, 732 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,270 it's kind of all amongst friends. 733 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:44,999 When you need someone to work with you, that is usually a person that you trust, 734 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,829 and the only thing that comes in from the outside as a new impulse 735 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,951 is music from the outside, since that is important. 736 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,312 It would be wrong just to muddle with your buddies. 737 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,114 We do that too, and it's great, 738 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,074 but to do it exclusively would be a big mistake, because where would you get your influences from. 739 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,111 I wanted to introduce my dog now. 740 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,516 Our dog! 741 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,592 That's Il�nchen. 742 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,872 Il�nchen, say Hello. 743 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:16,635 Ah, great. 744 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,033 Ilona is both our girl. 745 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:22,675 Right? 746 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,948 We actually wanted to have a doggy as our logo. 747 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,432 Then somehow the monkey came into play. 748 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,111 Martin from Pfadfinderei invented that. 749 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,279 I had the idea with the three monkeys, I wanted to change that idea a little, 750 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,234 since the EP was called 'Turn Deaf!'. 751 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,238 And the monkey in the middle was supposed to block his ears 752 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,954 and the monkeys left and right where supposed to shout in his ears. 753 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:55,431 Since I didn't want to sketch so exactly I just made the head rectangular 754 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:03,032 and thought: Now you have to draw the monkey very precisely, 755 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,949 so it looks like a monkey and only drew the main part of the monkey face. 756 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,148 I didn't think about it really. 757 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,151 So this is how the motif was created, the record had its label 758 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:25,350 and the following album had to happen with the monkey too. 759 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,869 Ever since that's been our logo. 760 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:34,713 There was no marketing firm involved thinking: How can we create a logo for the guys, 761 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:40,434 so that all kids between 1 8 and 25 recognize it and keep buying it. 762 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:46,317 There had to be Social Media and Multimedia in the label. 763 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,109 No, it was just punk shit, 764 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:55,189 and that's the reason we kept the monkey. 765 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,796 We were really surprised how much people love this monkey. 766 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,949 We noticed quite quickly, that everyone wanted to have the shirt with the monkey. 767 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,472 And then it started: We got pictures of people who had a tattoo with the monkey, 768 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,830 made shirts themselves, made films. 769 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,915 I got a marble bust from a fan 770 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,990 with the monkey chiselled in marble, its at home in my kitchen. 771 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,036 It weighs 25 kilo. 772 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,952 We got a monkey made of concrete, we got a knitted jumper monkey, 773 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,675 we got monkeys made of plaster, of putty, 774 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,155 as dolls, as masks. 775 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,156 Cakes. 776 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:58,952 Monkey-cakes. 777 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,230 We got paintings of the monkey. 778 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:02,759 Big graffitis. 779 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:03,995 Everything. 780 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,316 This monkey really got a tour. 781 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:29,355 For me, a success is for example when someone who I never met before says to me: 782 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:36,429 'With the song you made I had a really great experience.' 783 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,672 Or: 'I asked my wife to marry me.' 784 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,599 Or: 'My kids love your music.' 785 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:48,514 When people give a serious and honest feedback to what you are doing. 786 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,315 Irrespectively of the hype on the internet 787 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:56,910 and all the fast rivers that come and go. 788 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,238 When you just get a good feedback. 789 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,150 So, do you want more? 790 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,592 Do you want more? 791 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,789 You have to shout louder! 792 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,557 I think, that bands can only be successful over a longer period 793 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,230 when people feel that there is honesty in it. 794 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,352 That the artists also live in a real world, 795 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,996 that they are present and there is not a big difference 796 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,988 between the people who listen to the music and the ones who make the music 797 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,713 - apart from the creativity. 798 01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:04,032 In the end we are all just guys sitting in their little cubbyhole and cobble stuff together. 799 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:11,398 And it's really nice every time you come out of the cubbyhole and it is received with open arms. 800 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:16,355 I think Gernot and Szary see that the same way. 801 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:11,358 That Modeselektor have become so successful is also due to hard work, 802 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,551 it didn't come out of the blue. 803 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,911 Don't forget that they have been around for a few years. 804 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,193 They went on tour for a few years, 805 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:26,032 played an incredible amount of gigs for little or no money. 806 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,239 Always with fun, with ideas, 807 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,677 but it is a tough job. 808 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,356 The impressive thing with Modeselektor for me is this mixture 809 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,597 of accessibility and radicalism at the same time. 810 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:51,756 It sounds like from an add script, but I think it is the base, their approach to music. 811 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:57,028 They are two clowns who can rock ten thousands of people 812 01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,916 because they rock their laptops and they aren't afraid to play the clown 813 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,031 in front of such a big crowd. 814 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:10,879 At the same time the musical base is really solid and also really inspired. 815 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,953 With their development they have anticipated so much 816 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:19,188 that in the context of Arena-Techno is day-to-day routine now 817 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,551 and basically it all came from Modeselektor, 818 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,991 only with that musical extra twist 819 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:29,671 and more sensitivity for balance and experiments. 820 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,912 They managed to create a sound 821 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,395 that is compatible for the masses and that is still musically exciting 822 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,192 and that is what I find sensational. 823 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,469 I think I see the last ten years as a climax. 824 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,911 It was one pure climax, with many ups and downs of course. 825 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,156 Cool. 826 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,439 Very philosophical. 827 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,358 I think as a whole, this decade was very mixed, 828 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:39,913 and I cannot really say: 829 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,079 Of course the gig with Radiohead at Wuhlheide was great. 830 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,477 That was definitely a climax of 2008. 831 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:56,072 That Radiohead had gotten interested in us back in 2003 at all. 832 01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:59,679 I have to agree with Szary there. 833 01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:05,477 If you look at it there is no... ...it is not the Echo (music award) 834 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,952 or a concert in front of so and so many people. 835 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,959 It's rather the sum of it all. 836 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,789 It's the motorway we are on, 837 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,950 with a fun car... 838 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,633 And lots of road works... 839 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,555 With lots of road works, but still always going too fast 840 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,910 and so far without too many fines. 841 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:31,795 Exactly, great. 842 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:35,714 Thank you! 71193

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