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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,993 --> 00:00:12,906 CAUGHT IN THE ACT 2 00:00:30,433 --> 00:00:34,745 A person caught in a criminal act by the police is held in custody 3 00:00:34,953 --> 00:00:37,069 then ordered by a Public Prosecutor 4 00:00:37,273 --> 00:00:41,152 to be sent to a hearing in the Law Courts. 5 00:00:41,953 --> 00:00:45,468 This person appears before a District Attorney 6 00:00:45,673 --> 00:00:48,062 who informs him/her of the alleged felony 7 00:00:48,273 --> 00:00:51,583 and hears his/her statement in the offices of the 8th district 8 00:00:51,793 --> 00:00:53,943 in charge of crimes. 9 00:00:54,793 --> 00:00:56,351 After the first hearing 10 00:00:56,553 --> 00:00:58,862 either the person is given what is known 11 00:00:59,073 --> 00:01:00,825 as an "immediate pleading", 12 00:01:01,033 --> 00:01:05,072 in which case he/she may consult a lawyer 13 00:01:05,273 --> 00:01:09,152 prior to trial by a public criminal court, 14 00:01:09,353 --> 00:01:14,302 or he/she is dismissed and ordered to appear in court at a later date. 15 00:01:15,273 --> 00:01:19,107 This film follows the procedural itinerary of the accused 16 00:01:19,313 --> 00:01:23,022 from arrival in the holding cell until seeing the lawyer. 17 00:01:23,873 --> 00:01:26,865 We thank the 86 arrested persons 18 00:01:27,073 --> 00:01:30,622 who showed their trust in us by agreeing to be filmed. 19 00:01:31,033 --> 00:01:34,662 We chose 14 people who were ultimately tried 20 00:01:34,873 --> 00:01:37,148 and in order to safeguard their anonymity, 21 00:01:37,353 --> 00:01:39,947 we have changed their family names. 22 00:01:40,993 --> 00:01:44,110 Authorization to film was given 23 00:01:44,313 --> 00:01:46,190 under specific conditions 24 00:01:46,393 --> 00:01:50,386 so as to respect the confidentiality of each case. 25 00:01:54,393 --> 00:01:58,272 PALAIS DE JUSTICE PARIS 26 00:05:46,313 --> 00:05:50,591 Hearing in progress Do not disturb 27 00:05:58,353 --> 00:06:01,265 No sir... It won't be long... 28 00:06:01,473 --> 00:06:05,227 Yes, bring me the gentleman's statements. 29 00:06:06,593 --> 00:06:09,471 He's not sure if it's a police report 30 00:06:09,673 --> 00:06:10,742 or immediate pleading... 31 00:06:15,193 --> 00:06:16,262 All right. 32 00:06:18,753 --> 00:06:21,108 You're a little deaf, can you hear? 33 00:06:21,353 --> 00:06:21,865 Yeah. 34 00:06:22,073 --> 00:06:24,826 You are El Tari Crachim? 35 00:06:25,033 --> 00:06:25,749 Yes, m'am. 36 00:06:25,953 --> 00:06:28,865 Born June 10, 1975 in Tizi-Ouzou? 37 00:06:29,073 --> 00:06:29,789 Yes, m'am. 38 00:06:29,993 --> 00:06:31,631 - You're here before me... - What? 39 00:06:32,273 --> 00:06:34,104 Tizi-Ouzou in Algeria? 40 00:06:35,633 --> 00:06:37,464 I was born there... 41 00:06:41,673 --> 00:06:43,345 That's not the same! 42 00:06:44,993 --> 00:06:47,143 No, it's the same, doesn't matter. 43 00:06:47,393 --> 00:06:50,305 To me it does, I like things to be clear. 44 00:06:50,513 --> 00:06:54,028 En El Haman, born in En El Haman. 45 00:06:59,993 --> 00:07:03,429 Why they put Tizi-Ouzou is a mystery! 46 00:07:06,033 --> 00:07:09,946 I suggest that you stole from a car 47 00:07:10,153 --> 00:07:12,713 a small bag containing clothes, 48 00:07:12,913 --> 00:07:15,063 toiletries and shoes 49 00:07:15,313 --> 00:07:17,702 that you found in the car. 50 00:07:17,913 --> 00:07:18,550 Yes m'am. 51 00:07:18,753 --> 00:07:20,027 - You did it? - Yes. 52 00:07:21,153 --> 00:07:23,542 Why tell the police you didn't? 53 00:07:23,753 --> 00:07:25,425 I told the police it wasn't true? 54 00:07:26,873 --> 00:07:28,750 All right, I stole the bag... 55 00:07:31,633 --> 00:07:33,032 You stole it, yes or no? 56 00:07:33,273 --> 00:07:34,672 I stole the bag. 57 00:07:37,793 --> 00:07:39,943 Did you damage the car? 58 00:07:41,433 --> 00:07:42,229 Damage the car? 59 00:07:42,433 --> 00:07:47,109 Yes, I'll tell you what the owner says... 60 00:07:47,513 --> 00:07:49,105 But I didn't damage it... 61 00:07:49,353 --> 00:07:53,983 He says: "The window of my car was broken..." 62 00:07:54,193 --> 00:07:55,148 The window... 63 00:07:55,393 --> 00:07:56,382 Yes, I know. 64 00:07:56,593 --> 00:07:58,868 - Did you break it? - No, it wasn't me. 65 00:07:59,633 --> 00:08:01,225 Where was the bag? 66 00:08:02,193 --> 00:08:03,262 In the back. 67 00:08:09,833 --> 00:08:14,031 Was the door open or did you use the window? 68 00:08:14,313 --> 00:08:15,792 How did you open it? 69 00:08:15,993 --> 00:08:17,665 It was already broken... 70 00:08:28,913 --> 00:08:30,107 Are you working? 71 00:08:30,793 --> 00:08:34,263 No m'am... I'm registered at the Employment Agency... 72 00:08:34,713 --> 00:08:37,989 You've had several convictions? 73 00:08:38,193 --> 00:08:42,664 You've often had trouble with the courts, is that true? 74 00:08:43,113 --> 00:08:44,068 Yes m'am. 75 00:08:44,793 --> 00:08:47,591 Either you stop or you go to prison, to prison... 76 00:08:47,793 --> 00:08:49,511 Well I'll stop because... 77 00:08:51,793 --> 00:08:53,943 If not, it's Fleury prison... 78 00:08:55,953 --> 00:09:00,310 Yes, Fleury... Have you done any community service? 79 00:09:00,513 --> 00:09:01,468 What's that? 80 00:09:01,913 --> 00:09:04,063 Obviously not. Fine... 81 00:09:04,433 --> 00:09:05,912 Sign at the bottom... 82 00:09:13,473 --> 00:09:16,863 When was the last time you left prison? 83 00:09:17,713 --> 00:09:20,102 Me? I was never in prison! 84 00:09:20,553 --> 00:09:24,228 Before the judges but never in prison? 85 00:09:24,873 --> 00:09:27,831 I saw Judge Chailloux when I was a minor. 86 00:09:28,033 --> 00:09:29,944 You were a minor... So he... 87 00:09:30,153 --> 00:09:31,108 With my parents... 88 00:09:31,353 --> 00:09:35,744 Because of thefts, because you'd stolen... 89 00:09:35,953 --> 00:09:40,788 No, not a theft... it was something else... 90 00:09:41,193 --> 00:09:42,421 Education... 91 00:09:43,633 --> 00:09:46,431 And yet the police state 92 00:09:46,633 --> 00:09:51,468 you were caught in 1993 93 00:09:51,673 --> 00:09:54,551 for stealing a bike and for violent behavior. 94 00:09:54,753 --> 00:09:55,424 Yeah. 95 00:09:55,633 --> 00:10:00,309 For breaking into cars and thefts from cars. Is that true? 96 00:10:00,513 --> 00:10:01,070 Yes m'am. 97 00:10:01,313 --> 00:10:03,065 You never went to prison? 98 00:10:04,673 --> 00:10:07,392 Well, the danger now is... 99 00:10:07,673 --> 00:10:09,152 Yes, I'm an adult... 100 00:10:09,393 --> 00:10:10,269 That's it. 101 00:10:10,513 --> 00:10:14,301 Yes but I'm stopping, have to stop, if not... 102 00:10:18,113 --> 00:10:20,104 - You must stop. - That's for sure! 103 00:10:20,353 --> 00:10:22,708 What were you going to do with the stuff? 104 00:10:23,193 --> 00:10:23,784 What? 105 00:10:23,993 --> 00:10:25,904 The bag, etc-why d'you do it? 106 00:10:26,113 --> 00:10:29,708 I wanted to see what was in it, it's interesting... 107 00:10:44,713 --> 00:10:46,305 So I've added: 108 00:10:46,513 --> 00:10:49,789 "I stole the bag, did not break the window, 109 00:10:49,993 --> 00:10:51,824 it was already broken..." 110 00:10:53,513 --> 00:10:56,869 I don't necessarily believe you but I'm writing it... 111 00:10:58,073 --> 00:10:59,142 But I'm writing it, writing it... 112 00:10:59,393 --> 00:11:03,102 "I stole the bag, did not break the window, it was already broken. 113 00:11:03,353 --> 00:11:06,902 "The bag was on the back seat. 114 00:11:07,113 --> 00:11:09,422 "I wanted to see what was inside." 115 00:11:10,193 --> 00:11:14,630 You'll see a lawyer and then go to court. 116 00:11:16,513 --> 00:11:18,868 Now, as you say, you're adult, 117 00:11:19,073 --> 00:11:22,827 so you must explain yourself when you commit a misdemeanor. 118 00:11:23,033 --> 00:11:24,261 So I'm not free today? 119 00:11:24,473 --> 00:11:26,668 No sir, you're not free today. 120 00:11:27,033 --> 00:11:31,504 You've been used to doing things and nothing happens. 121 00:11:31,713 --> 00:11:35,103 That's over now, this must stop! 122 00:11:35,913 --> 00:11:39,383 The court will decide. But sir, this is serious... 123 00:11:45,833 --> 00:11:47,744 The lawyer will explain. 124 00:11:49,153 --> 00:11:50,666 If prison scares you, 125 00:11:50,873 --> 00:11:55,469 tell the lawyer to ask for community service, he'll know. 126 00:11:56,393 --> 00:11:57,667 You understand? 127 00:11:59,553 --> 00:12:00,622 Yes m'am. 128 00:12:01,113 --> 00:12:02,512 That's all, sir. 129 00:12:02,713 --> 00:12:06,501 Lawyer first, then the court. 130 00:12:10,913 --> 00:12:12,904 I'm dealing with the law, the law... 131 00:12:13,113 --> 00:12:16,389 This is really the law... yes, before too... 132 00:12:17,513 --> 00:12:19,265 I was in court... not me... 133 00:12:20,713 --> 00:12:24,911 I was convicted, 3 months suspended sentence... 134 00:12:25,713 --> 00:12:30,787 You can't have a suspension 10 times, not even 3 times... 135 00:12:34,313 --> 00:12:37,305 ...maybe even the 3 months will be required. 136 00:12:39,033 --> 00:12:43,345 The lawyer may get community service for you. 137 00:12:43,553 --> 00:12:44,986 What will the lawyer do? 138 00:12:45,193 --> 00:12:48,822 Try to defend you, he'll explain. Goodbye. 139 00:12:49,033 --> 00:12:50,751 Goodbye m'am... 140 00:12:55,633 --> 00:12:56,861 It's interesting... 141 00:12:57,833 --> 00:12:59,061 This concerns you! 142 00:12:59,313 --> 00:13:02,749 It may not interest you, but you're involved! 143 00:13:04,353 --> 00:13:05,672 Do I go to prison for that? 144 00:13:05,873 --> 00:13:08,068 You can go to prison for theft 145 00:13:08,313 --> 00:13:11,146 when you've committed many others, yes... 146 00:13:12,553 --> 00:13:15,306 You're accused of stealing 3 fake coins 147 00:13:15,433 --> 00:13:18,789 3 bank notes, a neck chain, through trickery... 148 00:13:19,433 --> 00:13:20,582 Just a moment... 149 00:13:25,753 --> 00:13:28,904 Yes, can I put you on hold for 5 minutes? 150 00:13:29,113 --> 00:13:31,024 I'm doing a hearing... 151 00:13:31,993 --> 00:13:35,668 You stole all this and admit it? 152 00:13:35,873 --> 00:13:36,783 Yes. 153 00:13:36,993 --> 00:13:38,745 Was it premeditated or... No? 154 00:13:38,953 --> 00:13:39,749 No. 155 00:13:39,953 --> 00:13:43,662 "I admit..." The trouble is your police record... 156 00:13:43,873 --> 00:13:45,022 I know that. 157 00:13:45,513 --> 00:13:47,424 - Are you an addict? - Yes. 158 00:13:48,313 --> 00:13:49,541 What d'you use? 159 00:13:49,753 --> 00:13:51,266 Heroine, cocaine. 160 00:13:51,473 --> 00:13:53,384 - Every day? - Yes. 161 00:13:53,673 --> 00:13:55,789 Was it to sell and buy your dose? 162 00:13:55,993 --> 00:13:56,789 That's it. 163 00:14:04,833 --> 00:14:07,063 How much does it cost a day? 164 00:14:07,313 --> 00:14:09,269 Between 400 and 500 francs. 165 00:14:11,073 --> 00:14:12,392 That explains that... 166 00:14:15,113 --> 00:14:16,432 Residence? 167 00:14:16,633 --> 00:14:17,588 No. 168 00:14:18,513 --> 00:14:20,310 - Work? - No. 169 00:14:20,953 --> 00:14:23,023 Are you a squatter? 170 00:14:23,273 --> 00:14:26,549 I use my mother's address for mail. 171 00:14:26,753 --> 00:14:28,584 From time to time I call by. 172 00:14:30,033 --> 00:14:31,944 Did you try detox? 173 00:14:32,153 --> 00:14:32,744 Never. 174 00:14:32,953 --> 00:14:34,352 Any court order for detox? 175 00:14:34,553 --> 00:14:37,625 It was never offered to me. 176 00:14:38,393 --> 00:14:43,103 But you were offered several warnings: 177 00:14:43,353 --> 00:14:47,346 Suspension, half suspension, half not... 178 00:14:48,753 --> 00:14:51,313 Warnings are not detox. 179 00:14:51,753 --> 00:14:56,543 I know sir, you've never had a conditional suspended sentence... 180 00:14:57,793 --> 00:15:01,945 You should be sentenced because with this, and that... 181 00:15:02,153 --> 00:15:04,951 and then a probation period for detox. 182 00:15:05,153 --> 00:15:08,384 It's not up to me, the court decides. Sign here... 183 00:15:11,513 --> 00:15:15,301 Even if it's offered, you must decide to stop, you! 184 00:15:15,513 --> 00:15:17,105 There's nothing outside... 185 00:15:17,353 --> 00:15:22,381 There's a whole list. When you leave prison, ask for it. 186 00:15:22,593 --> 00:15:25,027 From Marmottan to the Patriarche, 187 00:15:25,273 --> 00:15:29,107 it's not the same type but... Iook at them... 188 00:15:29,353 --> 00:15:30,388 I've done it all. 189 00:15:30,593 --> 00:15:32,709 I've ten addresses in Paris and not only me! 190 00:15:32,913 --> 00:15:33,709 I've done it all. 191 00:15:33,913 --> 00:15:35,744 In the provinces as well... 192 00:15:35,953 --> 00:15:39,343 I agree but there's a 3-4 month waiting list. 193 00:15:39,553 --> 00:15:40,747 True, I'll add that. 194 00:15:40,953 --> 00:15:44,502 Once you're outside, 3-4 months waiting, you start again. 195 00:15:45,473 --> 00:15:47,828 Did you try to leave Paris? 196 00:15:48,033 --> 00:15:48,670 Where for? 197 00:15:48,873 --> 00:15:51,785 Where you can't find it so easily. 198 00:15:53,273 --> 00:15:54,831 You find it all over m'am! 199 00:15:55,713 --> 00:15:57,351 Some places must be harder? 200 00:15:57,553 --> 00:15:59,942 Even the 16th, the Champs Elys�es... 201 00:16:00,153 --> 00:16:02,144 Paris! I said leave Paris. 202 00:16:02,393 --> 00:16:05,624 So: "I would have liked 203 00:16:06,593 --> 00:16:09,266 "to be disintoxicated, 204 00:16:10,593 --> 00:16:11,742 "but everywhere, 205 00:16:14,673 --> 00:16:19,622 "there is a 3-4 month waiting list. 206 00:16:19,833 --> 00:16:21,664 "While waiting, I start again." 207 00:16:22,593 --> 00:16:27,269 Coming out you need a center to take you automatically. 208 00:16:29,393 --> 00:16:33,830 If you go to prison, talk about it to the judge... 209 00:16:34,033 --> 00:16:36,228 If you do go, I'm not presuming, 210 00:16:36,433 --> 00:16:40,028 but with your record it's very probable... 211 00:16:41,713 --> 00:16:43,908 The centers, waiting lists, etc... 212 00:16:44,113 --> 00:16:47,708 but it's you, your decision. 213 00:16:47,913 --> 00:16:51,223 You're adult, responsible, the only one who can decide is you. 214 00:16:51,913 --> 00:16:55,701 See the lawyer who'll prepare your defense for this theft. 215 00:16:55,913 --> 00:16:59,986 Then you appear in court for the judgment... 216 00:17:00,193 --> 00:17:02,627 The decision is up to them. 217 00:17:02,833 --> 00:17:07,384 I told you because of your record, prison's very probable. 218 00:17:08,713 --> 00:17:11,864 I can't say anymore sir, you may go. See the lawyer. 219 00:17:26,073 --> 00:17:30,783 I must shift to a higher gear, there are so many... 220 00:17:31,233 --> 00:17:32,188 No, but I trust you... 221 00:17:32,393 --> 00:17:35,351 Take it easy... Your name is Ermazoud? 222 00:17:35,553 --> 00:17:37,111 - First name: Hamed. - Yes, m'am-judge. 223 00:17:37,313 --> 00:17:41,022 Born October 10, '49 in Ouled Erard, Morocco? 224 00:17:41,233 --> 00:17:42,382 Yes m'am-D.A. 225 00:17:42,633 --> 00:17:45,705 You're here for what we call 3-card Monte fraud. 226 00:17:45,913 --> 00:17:49,826 No, no fraud, no complaints, no one... 227 00:17:50,033 --> 00:17:52,911 You'd been there for 10 minutes, 228 00:17:53,113 --> 00:17:55,946 the operator and two decoys. 229 00:17:56,153 --> 00:17:57,950 You're the operator or decoy? 230 00:17:58,153 --> 00:18:01,065 Operator but I was betting on the horses. 231 00:18:02,073 --> 00:18:03,745 We bet on 12 to win. 232 00:18:03,953 --> 00:18:06,103 - We each made 400 Frs. - Yes... 233 00:18:06,313 --> 00:18:09,225 When we hit 12, he won the pot. 234 00:18:09,433 --> 00:18:13,824 We went out, said we'd share, we each made 450 Frs. 235 00:18:14,033 --> 00:18:17,469 They caught you in the act Blvd. Rochechouart. 236 00:18:17,713 --> 00:18:19,590 They-that's the police-say 237 00:18:19,793 --> 00:18:21,863 three persons were working. 238 00:18:22,073 --> 00:18:23,347 Not true, m'am-D.A.! 239 00:18:23,553 --> 00:18:26,351 The gentleman was operating the cards. 240 00:18:26,553 --> 00:18:29,863 The other two were decoys, that means pretending... 241 00:18:30,073 --> 00:18:30,903 Yes, all right, m'am D.A. 242 00:18:31,113 --> 00:18:33,991 They took the cards and 1,200 Frs. 243 00:18:34,193 --> 00:18:35,421 Why tear up the cards? 244 00:18:35,633 --> 00:18:39,512 He said: You deliver or I tear them so move it! 245 00:18:39,713 --> 00:18:42,307 I said: Inspector, I've nothing to give you... 246 00:18:42,513 --> 00:18:45,266 He said: You'll pay for this! 247 00:18:45,473 --> 00:18:50,911 First he tore the cards, gave me my money, said to get going! 248 00:18:51,113 --> 00:18:53,581 He said: Got a tip for me? 249 00:18:53,793 --> 00:18:58,071 I said: Wait a minute, I'll find something. 250 00:18:58,273 --> 00:19:00,229 He said: Right now! 251 00:19:00,433 --> 00:19:02,264 Then he threw the cards down... 252 00:19:02,473 --> 00:19:05,465 He said: Move it asshole, don't screw me, give me the cards... 253 00:19:05,713 --> 00:19:06,782 Sit down... 254 00:19:07,513 --> 00:19:11,392 You admit it? I can sum up what you said. 255 00:19:11,633 --> 00:19:17,026 You admit you had the money, cards, two decoys and were... 256 00:19:17,233 --> 00:19:18,109 No problem m'am... 257 00:19:18,313 --> 00:19:21,146 We agree, you were solliciting people... 258 00:19:21,353 --> 00:19:22,069 No problem... 259 00:19:22,273 --> 00:19:25,948 The policeman would have turned a blind eye 260 00:19:26,153 --> 00:19:27,347 if you'd given him a tip? 261 00:19:27,553 --> 00:19:30,465 A tip worth 15,000. 262 00:19:30,713 --> 00:19:35,662 Not 2-3,000 it didn't interest him. He said I'd get 3 months. 263 00:19:36,433 --> 00:19:40,472 Mme Jaquin, the boss, gave me time... 264 00:19:40,713 --> 00:19:44,945 He said if you don't listen, and bring me a tip, 265 00:19:45,153 --> 00:19:47,348 I'll send you back home, to prison. 266 00:19:47,553 --> 00:19:51,432 He wanted the Barb�s cafes where they bet money, 267 00:19:51,673 --> 00:19:53,948 4-5-10-20-30,000! 268 00:19:54,153 --> 00:19:58,226 I don't know, I've a kid, a wife, a house, m'am! 269 00:19:58,433 --> 00:20:01,345 They would kill me, I'll be shot. 270 00:20:01,553 --> 00:20:06,946 I was knifed once by a guy who said I'd squealed on him. 271 00:20:07,153 --> 00:20:10,748 They'll hit me. Luckily my hand caught the knife. 272 00:20:10,953 --> 00:20:13,706 Inspector Francis... 273 00:20:13,913 --> 00:20:17,189 he lives... 274 00:20:17,393 --> 00:20:21,591 So the guy came to Barb�s. 275 00:20:21,793 --> 00:20:25,866 He said the court doesn't make the laws. 276 00:20:26,073 --> 00:20:28,462 If you give us tips, you're safe. 277 00:20:28,713 --> 00:20:32,706 Bring us the guys who put the women to work. 278 00:20:32,913 --> 00:20:35,711 You can play your cards in peace... you know... 279 00:20:37,713 --> 00:20:40,147 He said: We're here to watch for pickpockets, 280 00:20:40,353 --> 00:20:42,947 not your stuff, you work in peace. I said OK. 281 00:20:43,153 --> 00:20:43,903 Sit down. 282 00:20:44,113 --> 00:20:46,104 I'm talking to m'am-D.A. 283 00:20:47,753 --> 00:20:50,984 I wish you a happy new year, m'am-D.A. 284 00:20:51,193 --> 00:20:55,425 I'm 45, was never married. First time I'm married. 285 00:20:55,673 --> 00:20:57,584 - Would you stop... - Yes, m'am. 286 00:20:57,793 --> 00:21:02,230 You're 45, but in '79... 287 00:21:03,113 --> 00:21:05,183 You did a year for robbery. 288 00:21:05,393 --> 00:21:10,069 In '85, 2 months suspended sentence for narcotics. 289 00:21:10,273 --> 00:21:12,833 Was it you? Bobigny, Paris... 290 00:21:13,033 --> 00:21:14,352 Then I stopped. 291 00:21:14,553 --> 00:21:19,229 He said: If you start smoking I'll deport you... 292 00:21:19,433 --> 00:21:22,823 In '85 you got 5 months for swindling. 293 00:21:23,033 --> 00:21:25,593 Was that 3-card Monte in '85? 294 00:21:25,793 --> 00:21:26,862 In '85, yes m'am. 295 00:21:27,073 --> 00:21:28,108 It was 3-card Monte. 296 00:21:28,313 --> 00:21:31,430 You got money from a poor guy. 297 00:21:31,673 --> 00:21:35,427 Poor guy! It's their fault to be so naive... 298 00:21:35,673 --> 00:21:38,631 You got 5 months for swindling for the same thing as now. 299 00:21:38,833 --> 00:21:42,872 In '89 another 6 months, if you please... 300 00:21:43,073 --> 00:21:44,904 for swindling by deceitful practice. 301 00:21:45,113 --> 00:21:48,503 You used another name so was it more than 3-card Monte? 302 00:21:48,753 --> 00:21:50,106 What other name, m'am? 303 00:21:50,313 --> 00:21:53,385 I don't know, using another name, fake ID... 304 00:21:54,033 --> 00:21:56,501 - Was it 3-card Monte in '89? - Yes. 305 00:21:56,753 --> 00:21:58,664 All right. In '89, 306 00:21:58,873 --> 00:22:01,023 a month in prison 307 00:22:02,553 --> 00:22:05,192 for illegal gambling. Was it 3-card Monte? 308 00:22:05,393 --> 00:22:06,712 But there... there wasn't... 309 00:22:06,913 --> 00:22:08,869 I worked with Mme... 310 00:22:09,073 --> 00:22:12,270 But sometimes you appeared in court. In '90... 311 00:22:12,473 --> 00:22:14,987 I worked a month with Mme... 312 00:22:15,193 --> 00:22:16,308 You did, yes... 313 00:22:16,513 --> 00:22:19,471 You were fined 5,000 Frs, your ID cards confiscated, 314 00:22:19,713 --> 00:22:22,147 for running a gambling establishment. 315 00:22:22,353 --> 00:22:23,069 3-card Monte again? 316 00:22:23,273 --> 00:22:23,989 Yes, m'am-judge. 317 00:22:24,193 --> 00:22:28,584 In '91, 4-month suspended sentence with community service. 318 00:22:28,793 --> 00:22:29,623 Yes, m'am D.A. 319 00:22:29,833 --> 00:22:32,301 For organizing illegal gambling... 320 00:22:32,513 --> 00:22:34,105 Yes m'am-D.A. I don't deny it. 321 00:22:34,313 --> 00:22:35,712 You don't change d'you! 322 00:22:35,913 --> 00:22:38,347 But it's all to do with the police. 323 00:22:38,553 --> 00:22:40,942 No, it's not the police, they caught you! 324 00:22:42,073 --> 00:22:44,951 I gave 4 kilos of hashish... 325 00:22:45,153 --> 00:22:48,384 That you're an occasional informer, 326 00:22:48,633 --> 00:22:50,942 from what you say, seems obvious 327 00:22:51,153 --> 00:22:54,782 but that you often play 3-card Monte is also obvious! 328 00:22:55,073 --> 00:22:58,668 I don't know what the police said but I say it's illegal 329 00:22:58,873 --> 00:23:00,829 to play 3-card Monte! 330 00:23:01,033 --> 00:23:03,422 It's over, I hope it's over. 331 00:23:03,673 --> 00:23:04,662 Sign there... 332 00:23:07,793 --> 00:23:10,785 Enough of taking money from naive people... 333 00:23:10,993 --> 00:23:15,828 M'am, it's between friends, if someone complained... 334 00:23:16,033 --> 00:23:18,672 Why play that with friends! 335 00:23:18,873 --> 00:23:22,104 It's friends, every day... 336 00:23:22,313 --> 00:23:25,430 there's at least 80 people... 337 00:23:25,673 --> 00:23:28,267 Well sir, you see the judge today 338 00:23:28,473 --> 00:23:33,308 because 7, 8 or 10 convictions for 3-card Monte is enough! 339 00:23:33,513 --> 00:23:35,151 You must stop this! 340 00:23:35,833 --> 00:23:37,152 Let's see the magistrate... 341 00:23:37,353 --> 00:23:39,423 We'll see what the lawyer says. 342 00:23:40,153 --> 00:23:41,506 I don't need one. 343 00:23:41,753 --> 00:23:43,903 Yes, it's in your interest. 344 00:23:44,113 --> 00:23:46,024 I don't care. 345 00:23:47,833 --> 00:23:51,143 If we'd done business, I wouldn't be here, believe me! 346 00:23:51,353 --> 00:23:54,106 If I'd given them a good tip, I wouldn't be here! 347 00:23:54,313 --> 00:23:55,985 It's all noted... 348 00:24:00,473 --> 00:24:04,386 You threatened your wife verbally. 349 00:24:05,073 --> 00:24:06,108 No m'am never. 350 00:24:06,313 --> 00:24:09,669 I'll tell you what she reported... 351 00:24:11,073 --> 00:24:13,985 You'd kill her if she divorced. 352 00:24:14,193 --> 00:24:17,629 No, no, not that m'am, no, not that! 353 00:24:17,833 --> 00:24:22,270 I'll tell you what she said, then I'll note your version. 354 00:24:22,473 --> 00:24:26,671 She says you told her you'd kill her if she divorced. 355 00:24:26,873 --> 00:24:30,752 After the murder you'd be in jail, she'd be in her grave. 356 00:24:30,953 --> 00:24:32,272 - No! - Her words. 357 00:24:32,473 --> 00:24:33,383 Never... 358 00:24:33,633 --> 00:24:34,429 I'll take note. 359 00:24:34,673 --> 00:24:39,189 She also said you hit her on Dec. 27, 360 00:24:39,793 --> 00:24:41,909 that you hit her hard. 361 00:24:42,313 --> 00:24:46,943 A medical certificate gave her a week off and she had... 362 00:24:48,393 --> 00:24:51,385 When examined she was hurt... 363 00:24:51,633 --> 00:24:55,069 No m'am, it was she who told me... 364 00:24:55,273 --> 00:24:58,390 - You deny it? - It's all a lie. 365 00:24:59,033 --> 00:25:03,231 It's all a lie, it's words, you get mad, you say things... 366 00:25:03,433 --> 00:25:04,786 You're talking to me... 367 00:25:04,993 --> 00:25:07,461 "I don't admit the threats", right? 368 00:25:08,553 --> 00:25:11,067 What did you say? You said something? 369 00:25:11,273 --> 00:25:15,391 No m'am, I only said... 370 00:25:16,793 --> 00:25:20,149 A month ago, it was a bit weird... 371 00:25:20,353 --> 00:25:23,265 She bought weird stuff... 372 00:25:25,033 --> 00:25:30,426 One day she wore a skirt, later she put pants over it. 373 00:25:30,673 --> 00:25:33,824 You know, weird stuff... Shit, why d'you do it? 374 00:25:34,033 --> 00:25:38,504 Is she going with someone? You tell me does she have someone? 375 00:25:38,753 --> 00:25:41,984 It was a Monday, Monday or Tuesday. 376 00:25:42,473 --> 00:25:46,989 And she said: "There's someone". She was in my arms crying. 377 00:25:47,193 --> 00:25:49,661 "Yes I love someone else." 378 00:25:49,873 --> 00:25:51,511 That's all. And I said to her: 379 00:25:52,233 --> 00:25:55,942 I've refused the divorce as you didn't tell the truth. 380 00:25:56,153 --> 00:25:58,872 Now you tell the truth I'll try the divorce. 381 00:25:59,993 --> 00:26:03,144 It's not your fault, no one is... 382 00:26:03,353 --> 00:26:06,106 So when she told you there was another man... 383 00:26:06,313 --> 00:26:07,382 Yes I told her... 384 00:26:07,633 --> 00:26:10,272 Your only reaction was... We divorce! 385 00:26:10,473 --> 00:26:11,030 Right. 386 00:26:11,233 --> 00:26:11,983 You hit her? 387 00:26:12,193 --> 00:26:14,423 No m'am, I swear, I swear before... 388 00:26:14,673 --> 00:26:16,868 What about her scars? 389 00:26:17,073 --> 00:26:19,951 Those scars on her head? 390 00:26:20,153 --> 00:26:23,429 She had them as a kid... Later... 391 00:26:23,673 --> 00:26:25,425 Doctors know the difference. 392 00:26:25,673 --> 00:26:28,870 Yes m'am, listen, she pushed me down. 393 00:26:29,073 --> 00:26:32,110 I have asthma, I wasn't well. 394 00:26:32,313 --> 00:26:36,272 I put up my hands like that, just had time to put out my arm. 395 00:26:36,473 --> 00:26:38,748 I pushed her, she hit me like that, look! 396 00:26:38,953 --> 00:26:42,309 She says she was hit, kicked, she's hurt... 397 00:26:42,513 --> 00:26:45,983 It's me, it's me who had all that... 398 00:26:46,193 --> 00:26:47,831 I'll read what the doctor says. 399 00:26:48,033 --> 00:26:49,466 Yes of course, m'am... 400 00:26:49,713 --> 00:26:54,423 Swollen bruise on armpit hurts when touched. Something there... 401 00:26:54,673 --> 00:26:57,187 Bruises, scratches on right forearm... 402 00:26:57,393 --> 00:26:59,463 Yes m'am, it was when... 403 00:26:59,713 --> 00:27:03,592 Cuts above right elbow, bruise on left forearm. 404 00:27:03,793 --> 00:27:07,388 Bruise on left leg, on right leg. 405 00:27:07,633 --> 00:27:11,592 No other marks... So she's marked on her limbs. 406 00:27:11,793 --> 00:27:16,071 When I pushed her, I had to. I couldn't breathe. 407 00:27:16,273 --> 00:27:20,107 There's a mark here on my neck. 408 00:27:20,313 --> 00:27:21,951 I was suffocating... 409 00:27:22,153 --> 00:27:23,905 You pushed her because... 410 00:27:24,113 --> 00:27:26,263 She held me like that... 411 00:27:27,033 --> 00:27:28,705 Even my daughter saw it! 412 00:27:28,913 --> 00:27:30,869 Sadly the children see this... 413 00:27:31,073 --> 00:27:33,462 No, she's the only one to suffer. 414 00:27:33,793 --> 00:27:34,384 Of course. 415 00:27:34,633 --> 00:27:39,149 I went up to her like this so she wouldn't hurt me, 416 00:27:39,353 --> 00:27:41,628 she threw herself on me crying, 417 00:27:41,833 --> 00:27:44,905 saying: "Louis..." She calls me Louis. 418 00:27:45,193 --> 00:27:49,106 "...Forgive me I'm in love with another man." 419 00:27:49,993 --> 00:27:52,871 That's how it was, m'am. Later she told me. 420 00:27:53,113 --> 00:27:54,546 Let's stop this, sir! 421 00:27:54,793 --> 00:27:58,945 She cried. I agreed with it all. You live your life. 422 00:27:59,633 --> 00:28:00,827 - And? - That's all. 423 00:28:01,033 --> 00:28:03,263 That's not what it says here. 424 00:28:04,913 --> 00:28:07,711 I've added: "I had to protect myself 425 00:28:07,913 --> 00:28:11,872 "by grabbing my wife's arms." 426 00:28:12,433 --> 00:28:13,422 You said that? 427 00:28:13,633 --> 00:28:14,861 To protect yourself... 428 00:28:15,073 --> 00:28:16,426 That's it... 429 00:28:16,633 --> 00:28:20,387 "I admit to no threats. She bought weird stuff... 430 00:28:21,233 --> 00:28:22,905 "I pushed her, she held my throat. 431 00:28:23,113 --> 00:28:25,502 "She wants a divorce... I protect myself... 432 00:28:25,753 --> 00:28:29,985 "The 1st time, Nov. 23, was the same she taunted me saying Kill me!" 433 00:28:30,193 --> 00:28:32,548 "She kicked me." That's it. 434 00:28:33,953 --> 00:28:36,023 She tried to strangle me. 435 00:28:37,153 --> 00:28:38,871 Listen, she's lucky... 436 00:28:39,073 --> 00:28:42,543 - I couldn't breathe! - I noted that. 437 00:28:42,793 --> 00:28:47,821 When I knew she loved a man, I said OK divorce. That's all... 438 00:28:48,033 --> 00:28:49,864 You reacted remarkably! 439 00:28:50,073 --> 00:28:52,507 - That's all, it's true! - No jealousy... 440 00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:54,424 Listen... 441 00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:57,352 She says there's someone, you say: I agree to divorce... 442 00:28:57,553 --> 00:28:58,747 She said it... 443 00:28:58,953 --> 00:29:00,591 Later she's beaten up... 444 00:29:01,033 --> 00:29:04,389 Yes, beaten up, I know you told me. 445 00:29:04,993 --> 00:29:08,030 I told you and you can check, that's all. 446 00:29:08,233 --> 00:29:11,066 We live as we wish but we can't hurt others. 447 00:29:11,273 --> 00:29:13,946 No, no m'am, my wife... Listen... 448 00:29:14,153 --> 00:29:17,862 Me, I'm a man and I won't let myself be beaten up. 449 00:29:18,593 --> 00:29:20,709 She doesn't love me, we divorce... That's all... 450 00:29:21,033 --> 00:29:22,785 - Go see the lawyer... - Yes. 451 00:29:22,993 --> 00:29:25,427 - He'll prepare with you... - Yes. 452 00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:26,702 ...your defense. 453 00:29:26,913 --> 00:29:28,665 The judge this afternoon. 454 00:29:28,873 --> 00:29:31,865 You weren't often convicted... 455 00:29:32,073 --> 00:29:36,669 Your record shows frequent and violent scenes, it must stop. 456 00:29:36,873 --> 00:29:39,228 The court will... 457 00:29:40,393 --> 00:29:42,304 Is my wife coming? 458 00:29:43,113 --> 00:29:48,233 She's not in your shoes. You're accused, not the contrary. 459 00:29:49,033 --> 00:29:50,466 No problem! 460 00:29:50,713 --> 00:29:51,702 Well goodbye, sir. 461 00:29:51,913 --> 00:29:53,062 Goodbye, m'am... Excuse me... 462 00:29:53,273 --> 00:29:54,592 Of course. 463 00:30:20,473 --> 00:30:22,304 - Any convictions? - None. 464 00:30:22,513 --> 00:30:25,073 How long have you had trouble with alcohol? 465 00:30:25,273 --> 00:30:27,912 About two, three years. 466 00:30:28,633 --> 00:30:30,385 It's a real problem. 467 00:30:30,593 --> 00:30:33,107 It doesn't show yet, but it will. 468 00:30:33,313 --> 00:30:34,985 You'll be in real trouble. 469 00:30:35,193 --> 00:30:38,549 I had a period of no drinking, 470 00:30:38,793 --> 00:30:40,431 of sobriety, for four and a half months. 471 00:30:40,633 --> 00:30:43,830 You know that one drink starts you off again. 472 00:30:44,033 --> 00:30:46,672 You don't watch yourself, you drank heavily 2 days ago. 473 00:30:46,873 --> 00:30:48,101 There are lapses. 474 00:30:48,313 --> 00:30:50,031 Yes, lapses... 475 00:30:50,233 --> 00:30:53,191 The whole detox fails, you start at zero. 476 00:30:53,393 --> 00:30:55,702 You've been told that. 477 00:30:55,913 --> 00:30:58,666 You told me this... Listen... 478 00:30:58,873 --> 00:31:01,467 "I admit I did it because I was afraid. 479 00:31:01,713 --> 00:31:04,181 "I'd drunk too much alcohol, I was weak, 480 00:31:04,393 --> 00:31:06,668 "in a state of panic and paranoia. 481 00:31:06,873 --> 00:31:09,990 "We met in the evening, they seemed harmless. 482 00:31:10,193 --> 00:31:13,105 "The young guy left my place. 483 00:31:13,313 --> 00:31:15,144 "I thought he took my purse 484 00:31:15,353 --> 00:31:17,264 "so I asked... to leave. 485 00:31:17,473 --> 00:31:19,543 "We argued, I panicked. 486 00:31:19,793 --> 00:31:21,465 "The knife was to scare him. 487 00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:23,704 "My act exceeded my wishes." 488 00:31:23,913 --> 00:31:25,551 - Do we agree? - We agree. 489 00:31:25,793 --> 00:31:29,945 Sign here, don't use all the space. I must sign there too. 490 00:31:35,313 --> 00:31:39,784 Now listen, madam, using a weapon on someone, 491 00:31:39,993 --> 00:31:42,461 instead of four days invalidity, 492 00:31:42,713 --> 00:31:47,741 could cause death if the knife hits an artery or lung. 493 00:31:47,953 --> 00:31:52,583 You're lucky your temper had no worse consequences. 494 00:31:52,833 --> 00:31:57,861 Is that clear? I believe alcohol is the problem. 495 00:31:58,153 --> 00:32:02,749 But I take into account that you've no record... 496 00:32:03,993 --> 00:32:08,225 which leads me to hope this won't be repeated. 497 00:32:08,433 --> 00:32:12,904 You need treatment, support. 498 00:32:13,113 --> 00:32:15,229 I'm sending you 499 00:32:15,433 --> 00:32:18,106 to court on Feb. 25, '94 at 9 am. 500 00:32:18,313 --> 00:32:20,781 You'll receive the summons. 501 00:32:20,993 --> 00:32:22,585 You must attend... 502 00:32:22,833 --> 00:32:25,791 or you get a heavier sentence. 503 00:32:25,993 --> 00:32:26,709 I'll go. 504 00:32:26,913 --> 00:32:31,941 Be adult, the court dislikes people ignoring summonses. 505 00:32:32,193 --> 00:32:34,661 Now you need a support group 506 00:32:34,873 --> 00:32:37,751 and detox treatment. It's essential! 507 00:32:37,953 --> 00:32:40,342 You'll see a judge 508 00:32:40,553 --> 00:32:42,828 who'll probably put you on probation. 509 00:32:43,033 --> 00:32:46,389 Then an inspector will explain your obligations. 510 00:32:46,593 --> 00:32:48,549 My suggested obligation 511 00:32:49,193 --> 00:32:50,990 is treatment. 512 00:32:51,193 --> 00:32:53,024 Careful, you were lucky. 513 00:32:53,233 --> 00:32:56,111 Firstly, you had no record, now you do. 514 00:32:56,313 --> 00:33:00,101 Secondly, you're lucky he wasn't badly hurt, 515 00:33:00,313 --> 00:33:04,226 or you could be tried in court for murder! 516 00:33:04,433 --> 00:33:06,424 Mortal blow with a weapon, 517 00:33:06,633 --> 00:33:09,147 it's worth more than 15 years now... 518 00:33:10,473 --> 00:33:11,588 20 years. 519 00:33:12,073 --> 00:33:16,146 You got lucky, you narrowly escaped a dramatic event. 520 00:33:16,353 --> 00:33:18,787 You'll see the deputy judge 521 00:33:18,993 --> 00:33:21,143 who'll explain the judiciary ruling, 522 00:33:21,353 --> 00:33:25,869 and the inspector will explain your obligations until the hearing. 523 00:33:26,593 --> 00:33:29,710 Goodbye. You won't see a lawyer 524 00:33:29,913 --> 00:33:34,464 because you're free once you see the judge and inspector. 525 00:33:37,273 --> 00:33:41,027 I think I'm going to detox... 526 00:33:41,313 --> 00:33:43,668 Even if it's only day care. 527 00:33:43,873 --> 00:33:46,433 There are various forms of detox. 528 00:33:46,633 --> 00:33:50,387 The inspector has addresses, etc. 529 00:33:50,593 --> 00:33:53,153 Do it because, when you go to court, 530 00:33:53,353 --> 00:33:55,071 with the inspector's report, 531 00:33:55,273 --> 00:33:59,107 if you've done nothing, the judge will take note. 532 00:33:59,753 --> 00:34:01,425 I totally agree 533 00:34:01,633 --> 00:34:04,193 and I think it's for my own good. 534 00:34:04,913 --> 00:34:07,825 I'm not here to do things for your own good. 535 00:34:08,033 --> 00:34:11,582 What I do, and my role's not the best, 536 00:34:11,833 --> 00:34:14,028 is to prevent this being repeated. 537 00:34:14,233 --> 00:34:17,066 You claim it's to do with alcohol, 538 00:34:17,273 --> 00:34:18,945 so deal with that! 539 00:34:19,153 --> 00:34:21,587 You tell them why a gentleman was knifed 540 00:34:21,793 --> 00:34:23,385 who shouldn't have been! 541 00:34:25,513 --> 00:34:26,309 Goodbye, madam. 542 00:34:45,513 --> 00:34:47,708 You're here because on Dec. 31... 543 00:34:47,913 --> 00:34:51,383 - This morning? - This afternoon. 544 00:34:51,593 --> 00:34:53,948 - What time? - It was... 545 00:34:54,753 --> 00:34:57,108 I caught the train at 12.45 pm 546 00:34:57,313 --> 00:35:01,909 I got there at 1 pm. It was 1.30 pm. 547 00:35:02,113 --> 00:35:03,512 - That's it. - 2 pm. 548 00:35:03,713 --> 00:35:04,907 It's not important. 549 00:35:05,193 --> 00:35:08,071 You stole various articles, clothes, shoes 550 00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:10,389 jewelry, fake jewelry 551 00:35:10,593 --> 00:35:12,390 even so the total value 552 00:35:12,593 --> 00:35:15,903 is 5,375 Frs stolen from Galeries Lafayette. 553 00:35:16,113 --> 00:35:17,990 You damaged the clothes 554 00:35:18,193 --> 00:35:21,822 because you tore the sensor off the suit. 555 00:35:22,073 --> 00:35:24,507 So, you were caught 556 00:35:24,713 --> 00:35:27,432 having committed these thefts 557 00:35:27,633 --> 00:35:29,908 and admitted the fact to the police. 558 00:35:30,113 --> 00:35:32,104 I'll note your explanation... 559 00:35:32,873 --> 00:35:34,750 Let's say 560 00:35:35,873 --> 00:35:39,104 that I left the store with the clothes. 561 00:35:39,473 --> 00:35:42,226 I couldn't prove I'd paid, I had no receipts. 562 00:35:42,473 --> 00:35:45,670 You'd torn off a sensor! 563 00:35:45,873 --> 00:35:48,512 Yes of course, what I mean is 564 00:35:48,713 --> 00:35:51,830 they could have asked for a receipt 565 00:35:52,033 --> 00:35:54,149 which they didn't. They quickly... 566 00:35:54,353 --> 00:35:56,548 They watched you in the store. 567 00:35:56,753 --> 00:35:59,108 That's it, they quickly... 568 00:36:01,073 --> 00:36:04,065 They didn't ask me what happened 569 00:36:04,273 --> 00:36:07,822 they didn't ask me if I'd like to pay for some things 570 00:36:08,033 --> 00:36:10,388 some things I might have paid for. 571 00:36:10,593 --> 00:36:13,187 They didn't ask, they took everything 572 00:36:13,433 --> 00:36:14,548 all of it. 573 00:36:14,753 --> 00:36:16,789 They said: That's it! 574 00:36:16,993 --> 00:36:20,065 You were caught outside the store? 575 00:36:20,273 --> 00:36:21,831 With unpaid articles? 576 00:36:22,033 --> 00:36:23,910 Of course, madam... 577 00:36:24,113 --> 00:36:26,946 Were they to wear, to give away, to sell? 578 00:36:27,153 --> 00:36:31,226 To wear... For personal use. 579 00:36:31,473 --> 00:36:33,748 - To wear... - Right. 580 00:36:33,953 --> 00:36:37,866 You can see they are things 581 00:36:38,273 --> 00:36:39,752 of a nature 582 00:36:41,313 --> 00:36:44,988 to do with feminity, dresses, earrings 583 00:36:45,273 --> 00:36:46,672 accessories. 584 00:36:46,873 --> 00:36:49,831 They're not, let's say, a car radio 585 00:36:50,033 --> 00:36:52,228 it's not a camera 586 00:36:52,473 --> 00:36:54,429 because a camera can be resold. 587 00:36:54,633 --> 00:36:56,032 Clothes too... 588 00:36:56,233 --> 00:36:58,747 Oh, a dress doesn't sell well! 589 00:36:59,513 --> 00:37:01,231 I've tried that. 590 00:37:01,473 --> 00:37:05,512 I bought Dior dresses years ago. I was thinner. 591 00:37:05,713 --> 00:37:07,749 I asked a friend 592 00:37:07,953 --> 00:37:10,786 if she could sell a dress to help... 593 00:37:10,993 --> 00:37:14,110 She told me she'd try. Nothing came of it. 594 00:37:14,313 --> 00:37:17,430 Well in any case you took these! 595 00:37:17,793 --> 00:37:20,785 I think if you leave here you'll say: 596 00:37:20,993 --> 00:37:23,268 I've no option, I'll steal again! 597 00:37:23,513 --> 00:37:25,231 It's unbelievable! 598 00:37:25,513 --> 00:37:29,222 I can change that, send you to court so you go to prison. 599 00:37:29,473 --> 00:37:33,671 The problem isn't considered as a whole... 600 00:37:33,873 --> 00:37:36,023 only what concerns them... 601 00:37:36,233 --> 00:37:39,623 What concerns me is deliquency, avoiding repetition. 602 00:37:39,833 --> 00:37:43,064 Delinquency is linked to something... 603 00:37:43,273 --> 00:37:45,662 Delinquency is not for fun 604 00:37:45,873 --> 00:37:48,671 unless one's mind is particularly... 605 00:37:48,873 --> 00:37:51,785 The Louis Feraud suit, so-and-so's shoes 606 00:37:51,993 --> 00:37:53,949 jewelry, that's something! 607 00:37:54,153 --> 00:37:56,872 You needn't steal. You want to go to prison? 608 00:37:57,073 --> 00:37:59,382 No, maybe I should leave France... 609 00:37:59,593 --> 00:38:03,950 You won't have more or less money, you'd steal abroad? 610 00:38:04,153 --> 00:38:05,905 No, maybe here there's no way out. 611 00:38:06,113 --> 00:38:08,752 Talk to your psychiatrist 612 00:38:09,713 --> 00:38:11,465 about those problems... 613 00:38:11,673 --> 00:38:13,948 The state supports you. 614 00:38:14,153 --> 00:38:16,109 It's not luxury, far from it 615 00:38:16,313 --> 00:38:20,272 but you can eat and live somewhere can't you? 616 00:38:20,633 --> 00:38:24,262 The social worker is the same, it doesn't bother her. 617 00:38:24,513 --> 00:38:27,471 Does what I say bother you? No more stealing! 618 00:38:27,673 --> 00:38:29,743 If not, back to prison! 619 00:38:31,873 --> 00:38:33,272 I don't know. 620 00:38:33,993 --> 00:38:38,783 Remember the next theft, it's all centralized here. 621 00:38:38,993 --> 00:38:41,951 I'll know and you go to prison! 622 00:38:42,233 --> 00:38:43,746 Remember! 623 00:38:43,953 --> 00:38:47,025 See the judge who'll put you under judiciary control 624 00:38:47,233 --> 00:38:50,225 the inspector will explain what you must do 625 00:38:50,473 --> 00:38:54,102 above all psychiatric treatment 626 00:38:54,313 --> 00:38:58,864 maybe the inspector can contact the medical service. 627 00:38:59,073 --> 00:39:01,746 It's your last chance, not one more! 628 00:39:01,953 --> 00:39:05,741 It'd be better if I commit suicide. 629 00:39:05,953 --> 00:39:09,628 - You're free... to commit suicide... - It's better... 630 00:39:09,833 --> 00:39:11,789 - The psy. Can... - It's better... 631 00:39:12,073 --> 00:39:13,472 What about prison? 632 00:39:13,673 --> 00:39:15,982 It's better to commit suicide. 633 00:39:19,993 --> 00:39:22,063 Have you learnt anything? 634 00:39:22,593 --> 00:39:24,185 No, nothing. 635 00:39:43,193 --> 00:39:45,946 You're before me for having on Dec. 30 636 00:39:46,153 --> 00:39:48,269 verbally abused public law enforcers 637 00:39:48,513 --> 00:39:50,788 2 gendarmes to whom you said: 638 00:39:50,993 --> 00:39:53,063 "Son of a bitch, dirty bastard, I'll kill you!" 639 00:39:53,273 --> 00:39:55,070 And other charming things. 640 00:39:55,273 --> 00:39:56,911 I'll summarize... 641 00:39:57,113 --> 00:40:01,709 When asked to sit down, you resisted 642 00:40:01,913 --> 00:40:04,507 that's to say you didn't hit to hit 643 00:40:04,713 --> 00:40:08,228 but let's say you preferred not to obey 644 00:40:08,473 --> 00:40:12,182 not to be held down, correct? 645 00:40:12,433 --> 00:40:14,788 So you were arrested 646 00:40:14,993 --> 00:40:16,665 because at the railway station 647 00:40:16,873 --> 00:40:18,943 you'd drunk a lot of whisky 648 00:40:19,153 --> 00:40:21,030 and bothered everyone. 649 00:40:21,233 --> 00:40:24,031 You were aggressive, insulting passengers 650 00:40:24,233 --> 00:40:26,110 so the security guards subdued you 651 00:40:26,313 --> 00:40:30,352 then you insulted the gendarmes. 652 00:40:30,593 --> 00:40:33,790 The insults first, what have you to say? 653 00:40:34,193 --> 00:40:37,663 You recall saying the words I said? 654 00:40:39,033 --> 00:40:40,830 I said them yesterday. 655 00:40:41,033 --> 00:40:42,785 Had you drunk a lot? 656 00:40:42,993 --> 00:40:45,348 You don't seem to recall. 657 00:40:45,953 --> 00:40:47,784 I recall yesterday. 658 00:40:48,193 --> 00:40:49,512 I recall it all. 659 00:40:49,713 --> 00:40:53,228 Why were you so aggressive? 660 00:40:53,473 --> 00:40:54,792 I wasn't aggressive. 661 00:40:54,993 --> 00:40:56,711 Verbally you were... 662 00:40:58,073 --> 00:41:00,746 I've the right to say what I want. 663 00:41:00,953 --> 00:41:03,945 But not the right to insult policemen. 664 00:41:04,153 --> 00:41:06,508 To do so is an offence. 665 00:41:06,713 --> 00:41:08,704 Did you know it's an offence 666 00:41:08,913 --> 00:41:12,064 to insult a policeman, indeed anyone 667 00:41:12,393 --> 00:41:14,782 in charge of public order. 668 00:41:18,313 --> 00:41:20,031 You say: "It's my right". 669 00:41:20,233 --> 00:41:22,588 So tomorrow if someone checks you 670 00:41:22,793 --> 00:41:25,023 or something, you do it again? 671 00:41:25,233 --> 00:41:27,986 You think it's your right? 672 00:41:29,153 --> 00:41:32,589 How can the police work if they're insulted? 673 00:41:37,473 --> 00:41:39,384 What d'you think? 674 00:41:40,073 --> 00:41:42,462 D'you think you're always right? 675 00:41:42,673 --> 00:41:45,665 Or d'you realize you can't say: 676 00:41:45,993 --> 00:41:48,746 "Son of a bitch, dirty bastard, I'll kill you!"? 677 00:41:48,953 --> 00:41:50,147 You can't say that. 678 00:41:51,873 --> 00:41:53,750 Was it because of alcohol... 679 00:41:55,753 --> 00:41:57,948 you said it? You'd drunk a lot? 680 00:41:59,033 --> 00:42:00,671 No, not a lot. 681 00:42:00,953 --> 00:42:02,102 A little? 682 00:42:02,993 --> 00:42:07,430 I'll write: "I'd drunk but not a lot", correct? 683 00:42:08,793 --> 00:42:11,148 The first offence? 684 00:42:12,793 --> 00:42:14,431 You could say so... 685 00:42:15,593 --> 00:42:17,788 When they tried to subdue you 686 00:42:17,993 --> 00:42:20,029 you resisted? Correct? 687 00:42:20,233 --> 00:42:21,586 The handcuffs? 688 00:42:21,793 --> 00:42:22,384 Yes. 689 00:42:22,593 --> 00:42:25,824 - I resisted? - I don't know, it's what they... 690 00:42:26,033 --> 00:42:27,432 I don't think so. 691 00:42:32,273 --> 00:42:35,709 Did you resist when they came up to you? 692 00:42:37,753 --> 00:42:39,266 Resist what? 693 00:42:39,513 --> 00:42:42,346 Resist: Refusal to be apprehended. 694 00:42:44,793 --> 00:42:46,511 It means gesturing with arms, legs 695 00:42:46,713 --> 00:42:49,910 acting so as not to be apprehended. 696 00:42:50,913 --> 00:42:53,473 I let myself be apprehended. 697 00:42:56,553 --> 00:43:00,387 So you admit the insult, not the resistance. 698 00:43:00,593 --> 00:43:01,708 The insult. 699 00:43:01,913 --> 00:43:04,188 You admit saying these words: 700 00:43:04,433 --> 00:43:06,549 "I said it yesterday. 701 00:43:06,753 --> 00:43:09,551 "I may express myself, I'd drunk, not a lot." 702 00:43:10,273 --> 00:43:11,501 You said that? 703 00:43:11,713 --> 00:43:16,025 - Yesterday, what's it mean? - An offence. 704 00:43:16,233 --> 00:43:18,349 I said it to the police 705 00:43:18,553 --> 00:43:21,590 if I insulted them I was threatened. 706 00:43:21,793 --> 00:43:24,944 To insult a policeman or gendarme doing his job 707 00:43:25,153 --> 00:43:27,109 is forbidden by law. 708 00:43:35,033 --> 00:43:38,264 It's silly, you wouldn't have been in custody 709 00:43:38,513 --> 00:43:41,744 if you'd been quiet. 710 00:43:43,953 --> 00:43:46,069 You have no police record 711 00:43:46,273 --> 00:43:49,071 you're doing your military service? 712 00:43:49,273 --> 00:43:51,833 I'll release you, immediately... 713 00:43:52,033 --> 00:43:57,153 You must appear in court on Feb. 3, '94, 9 am. 714 00:43:58,073 --> 00:43:59,984 You must appear sir. 715 00:44:00,193 --> 00:44:01,990 If you do not appear 716 00:44:02,193 --> 00:44:05,390 you'll receive a harsher sentence. 717 00:44:05,593 --> 00:44:08,903 On the other hand, if you appear, with no record 718 00:44:09,113 --> 00:44:11,343 you may get... 719 00:44:11,553 --> 00:44:14,545 what is normal for people with no record. 720 00:44:14,753 --> 00:44:16,948 Is what I've said clear? 721 00:44:18,713 --> 00:44:19,828 What's the risk? 722 00:44:20,033 --> 00:44:21,864 - What? - The risk? 723 00:44:24,193 --> 00:44:25,706 Insult and resistance... 724 00:44:25,913 --> 00:44:29,542 Insult 3 months, resistance 6 months. 725 00:44:29,753 --> 00:44:32,825 What usually happens 726 00:44:33,033 --> 00:44:35,103 with a clean record 727 00:44:35,313 --> 00:44:38,623 you don't go to jail the first time. 728 00:44:38,833 --> 00:44:41,108 ...the court does at it likes... 729 00:44:41,313 --> 00:44:45,386 but if you appear, you're in the military 730 00:44:45,593 --> 00:44:47,504 if you say you're sorry 731 00:44:47,713 --> 00:44:50,546 I'm not sure about that... 732 00:44:51,513 --> 00:44:53,822 That's your release order. 733 00:44:54,793 --> 00:44:57,990 And don't insult anyone again. 734 00:44:59,513 --> 00:45:02,027 You've nothing to say? 735 00:45:03,473 --> 00:45:04,747 You can go. 736 00:45:45,393 --> 00:45:48,908 There's a 23 year old girl charging her employer 737 00:45:49,113 --> 00:45:52,025 with sexual harassment. 738 00:45:52,233 --> 00:45:53,791 So I want to know... 739 00:45:53,993 --> 00:45:57,349 The law states that for it to be sexual harassment 740 00:45:57,553 --> 00:45:59,350 the person is promised 741 00:45:59,553 --> 00:46:03,705 either promotion if she cooperates 742 00:46:04,113 --> 00:46:07,025 or she's threatened with sanctions if not. 743 00:46:07,233 --> 00:46:09,747 It has to be clear. What does she say? 744 00:46:09,953 --> 00:46:14,344 She works part-time at this company. 745 00:46:14,553 --> 00:46:16,942 On several occasions her boss 746 00:46:17,153 --> 00:46:19,109 came up to her... 747 00:46:19,553 --> 00:46:22,465 Started to touch her, like hand on thigh 748 00:46:22,673 --> 00:46:24,072 hand on hair 749 00:46:24,753 --> 00:46:27,870 hand on back, half massaging... that's it... 750 00:46:28,233 --> 00:46:30,064 No promises of promotion... 751 00:46:30,273 --> 00:46:31,626 No sanctions... 752 00:46:31,833 --> 00:46:32,902 ...if she refuses. 753 00:46:34,833 --> 00:46:38,872 D'you have a second? I'll check the law book... 754 00:46:39,073 --> 00:46:40,506 Yes, of course... 755 00:47:19,593 --> 00:47:22,027 What sort of touching? I need details. 756 00:47:22,233 --> 00:47:24,588 Hand on thigh, hand on shoulders... 757 00:47:26,593 --> 00:47:28,902 even touched her hair... That's all. 758 00:47:29,113 --> 00:47:34,141 Hand on thigh might be an attempt at indecent behavior. 759 00:47:34,393 --> 00:47:36,748 Was he always alone with her? 760 00:47:36,953 --> 00:47:38,989 Alone in an office. 761 00:47:40,073 --> 00:47:43,668 - I suggest calling in the boss. - Yes. 762 00:47:43,873 --> 00:47:45,306 No urgency. 763 00:47:45,513 --> 00:47:48,073 Hear what he says about touching her. 764 00:47:48,273 --> 00:47:50,741 How should I do it? 765 00:47:50,953 --> 00:47:52,909 I'd prefer a procedure. 766 00:47:53,113 --> 00:47:55,991 He needn't be taken into custody. 767 00:47:56,193 --> 00:47:57,831 He should be questioned... 768 00:47:58,033 --> 00:48:01,867 Right, how do we define this stage? 769 00:48:02,073 --> 00:48:04,428 Attempted indecent behavior. 770 00:48:06,513 --> 00:48:08,663 Right I'll do that. 771 00:48:15,433 --> 00:48:17,185 - 2nd district... - Thank you. 772 00:48:18,353 --> 00:48:21,550 - Morning, inspector... 2nd district. - Morning sir. 773 00:48:21,753 --> 00:48:25,382 - I need a custody extension. - Yes? 774 00:48:25,593 --> 00:48:28,949 We've three suspects since yesterday 1 pm 775 00:48:29,153 --> 00:48:31,747 who were caught in an apartment 776 00:48:31,953 --> 00:48:34,467 taken in on suspected robbery with breaking in... 777 00:48:34,673 --> 00:48:38,109 They're from Zaire, no ID papers, 778 00:48:38,673 --> 00:48:41,983 they claim they were squatting in the place 779 00:48:42,193 --> 00:48:46,584 but now we've had the ID reports 780 00:48:46,793 --> 00:48:50,103 and one is well known under another name 781 00:48:50,353 --> 00:48:52,150 and has been sentenced four times. 782 00:48:52,393 --> 00:48:53,746 So by 1 pm I couldn't... 783 00:48:53,953 --> 00:48:55,750 No time... all right. 784 00:48:56,353 --> 00:48:57,581 They saw a lawyer? 785 00:48:57,793 --> 00:49:00,148 This morning, no problem. 786 00:49:00,393 --> 00:49:04,864 I'll put you on to the secretariat for extensions... 787 00:49:13,993 --> 00:49:16,223 Three extensions... 788 00:49:19,913 --> 00:49:23,508 - Are you a district attorney? - Yes. 789 00:49:23,593 --> 00:49:25,345 I think the man in question 790 00:49:25,553 --> 00:49:27,669 needs to be free... 791 00:49:27,913 --> 00:49:28,629 Yes? 792 00:49:28,833 --> 00:49:32,746 To walk without being locked up 793 00:49:33,273 --> 00:49:34,911 in a cage 794 00:49:35,113 --> 00:49:37,786 as you do to him today. 795 00:49:37,993 --> 00:49:41,827 It doesn't give me... as if I wasn't a man. 796 00:49:42,673 --> 00:49:44,868 In the way I came to France 797 00:49:45,073 --> 00:49:47,633 until today, arrest after arrest. 798 00:49:47,833 --> 00:49:49,585 It doesn't give me 799 00:49:50,233 --> 00:49:51,746 a good feeling even. OK? 800 00:49:52,033 --> 00:49:53,944 I'd prefer 801 00:49:54,153 --> 00:49:57,190 when I finish at the administrative court 802 00:49:57,473 --> 00:49:59,668 they make their decision 803 00:49:59,873 --> 00:50:01,704 and that's the end, OK? 804 00:50:01,913 --> 00:50:05,872 I prefer to stay outside, to walk, I'm a free man. 805 00:50:06,073 --> 00:50:07,142 - I see. - Forever. 806 00:50:07,393 --> 00:50:10,112 - I see. - My thoughts are so free. 807 00:50:10,353 --> 00:50:11,502 Of course. 808 00:50:11,713 --> 00:50:16,503 No one can force me to stay somewhere like that... 809 00:50:16,713 --> 00:50:19,432 - You're a man of law? - Yes. 810 00:50:19,633 --> 00:50:22,147 I think you can respect 811 00:50:22,393 --> 00:50:24,953 the merits of certain people. 812 00:50:26,873 --> 00:50:30,502 Yes of course, I can also take constraining measures. 813 00:50:30,713 --> 00:50:32,863 Constraining measures... 814 00:50:33,073 --> 00:50:37,783 To ensure that democratic laws are obeyed 815 00:50:37,993 --> 00:50:40,871 in particular legal decisions, as well as... 816 00:50:41,073 --> 00:50:43,507 and this is not in your favor 817 00:50:43,793 --> 00:50:46,705 laws concerning aliens. 818 00:50:46,913 --> 00:50:48,187 Thank you. 819 00:50:49,713 --> 00:50:53,626 Now go to see the lawyer. 820 00:50:53,833 --> 00:50:57,064 Do you want a legal aid lawyer to help you in court? 821 00:51:00,593 --> 00:51:03,505 I've been here enough... 822 00:51:03,713 --> 00:51:07,308 I advise you to take a lawyer your case is complicated. 823 00:51:08,033 --> 00:51:12,231 They don't defend me. They defend politics here. 824 00:51:12,473 --> 00:51:14,111 So since I came here 825 00:51:14,353 --> 00:51:17,629 I give this, I talk like this, they change it their way 826 00:51:17,833 --> 00:51:20,984 so I'd like to talk about that... 827 00:51:21,193 --> 00:51:22,751 As you wish sir. 828 00:51:22,953 --> 00:51:27,390 - So I've no reason to ask asylum... - Right. 829 00:51:27,593 --> 00:51:30,665 Or to ask anything, or whatever else... 830 00:51:59,233 --> 00:52:00,746 A resum�... 831 00:52:10,273 --> 00:52:11,592 Thank you sir. 832 00:52:11,993 --> 00:52:13,870 Now take him... 833 00:52:14,073 --> 00:52:16,064 No you don't want a lawyer... 834 00:52:16,273 --> 00:52:18,343 so take him to the holding cell... 835 00:52:35,953 --> 00:52:38,308 You're here before me 836 00:52:38,513 --> 00:52:40,663 because you were arrested after 837 00:52:40,873 --> 00:52:43,387 the attempted theft 838 00:52:44,113 --> 00:52:46,468 of a purse from a young woman 839 00:52:46,953 --> 00:52:48,784 who was also slapped 840 00:52:48,993 --> 00:52:50,745 which is why the charge is 841 00:52:50,953 --> 00:52:53,183 attempted theft with violence. 842 00:52:54,713 --> 00:52:58,388 What d'you have to say? You did admit 843 00:52:58,593 --> 00:53:00,231 doing these things? 844 00:53:00,473 --> 00:53:01,952 I don't admit it. 845 00:53:02,153 --> 00:53:03,666 You don't admit it! 846 00:53:03,873 --> 00:53:06,706 Because I... I don't know, I've got it all 847 00:53:06,913 --> 00:53:09,143 I don't want to steal. Who needs money? 848 00:53:09,393 --> 00:53:11,543 I've got it all, food stamps... 849 00:53:11,873 --> 00:53:13,431 Why take the lady's money? 850 00:53:13,633 --> 00:53:15,225 You told the police that... 851 00:53:15,473 --> 00:53:19,466 No the police wants to get to the bottom, you know that. 852 00:53:19,673 --> 00:53:21,709 They hit us as soon as we got there. 853 00:53:22,113 --> 00:53:24,104 The inspectors hit us, look! 854 00:53:24,353 --> 00:53:28,471 I see the social workers they give me clothes, all that... 855 00:53:28,673 --> 00:53:30,391 Clothes, I don't need them. Why? 856 00:53:30,593 --> 00:53:32,231 I was in the army in France. 857 00:53:32,473 --> 00:53:35,988 It's no lie, food stamps, all that... 858 00:53:36,193 --> 00:53:37,831 You don't know the police! 859 00:53:38,033 --> 00:53:39,785 You should see, go down there. 860 00:53:40,753 --> 00:53:42,471 Sure, they beat us and all. 861 00:53:42,673 --> 00:53:45,551 They invented things... 862 00:53:45,753 --> 00:53:48,631 Your state of health reassures me... 863 00:53:48,833 --> 00:53:50,346 They invent things. 864 00:53:50,793 --> 00:53:53,705 You signed it. They hit you to make you sign? 865 00:53:53,913 --> 00:53:56,188 They hit me as soon as I came in. 866 00:53:56,433 --> 00:54:00,824 Not today, the inspector was nice but yesterday... 867 00:54:01,033 --> 00:54:02,352 That's good! 868 00:54:02,913 --> 00:54:05,632 Here's this morning's statement. 869 00:54:13,793 --> 00:54:17,911 "My intention" you said to today's nice inspector 870 00:54:18,113 --> 00:54:20,547 "was to steal the victim's purse 871 00:54:20,753 --> 00:54:23,142 "so that my friend and I could eat. 872 00:54:23,553 --> 00:54:25,145 "I'll tell the truth, 873 00:54:25,353 --> 00:54:27,662 "I've not committed any other thefts." 874 00:54:27,873 --> 00:54:31,149 I said it so he'd leave me alone, do I need him to eat? 875 00:54:31,393 --> 00:54:32,746 All right... 876 00:54:33,433 --> 00:54:36,823 You confessed in order to be left in peace? 877 00:54:38,033 --> 00:54:41,150 - You said nothing? - He said: "It'll go badly". 878 00:54:41,393 --> 00:54:44,430 You know the precinct. That's what he said. 879 00:54:45,513 --> 00:54:47,947 It was blackmail he used on me. 880 00:54:48,273 --> 00:54:50,741 I've no obligations, I came for New Year's Eve 881 00:54:50,953 --> 00:54:53,308 we were leaving tonight... 882 00:54:53,513 --> 00:54:57,062 You're something of a rogue... 883 00:54:57,273 --> 00:54:59,946 I didn't hit the lady. I don't hit ladies. 884 00:55:00,153 --> 00:55:03,941 But she was hit, did your friend hit her? 885 00:55:04,153 --> 00:55:07,543 - He hit her! - Why? 886 00:55:08,073 --> 00:55:10,985 It began... People crowded in... 887 00:55:11,753 --> 00:55:14,506 It's true he didn't stop hitting 888 00:55:15,033 --> 00:55:16,022 the young woman. 889 00:55:16,233 --> 00:55:20,784 He should have hit the others, belts came off, tear gas... 890 00:55:22,753 --> 00:55:26,632 In these cases what the victim says is vital. 891 00:55:28,073 --> 00:55:30,667 She knows what she went through. 892 00:55:30,873 --> 00:55:33,910 It's true, you mustn't hit, true... 893 00:55:35,513 --> 00:55:38,107 ...she felt someone search in her purse 894 00:55:38,953 --> 00:55:41,069 and she turned. 895 00:55:41,313 --> 00:55:42,792 She clearly saw 896 00:55:43,113 --> 00:55:45,707 who had opened her purse undoing the catch. 897 00:55:45,913 --> 00:55:47,346 Was that you? 898 00:55:47,953 --> 00:55:49,068 Did you do it? 899 00:55:49,953 --> 00:55:53,309 It's called attempted theft. Now two thefts. 900 00:55:53,513 --> 00:55:56,346 "I gave him a mean look. Closed my purse. 901 00:55:56,553 --> 00:55:58,669 "Another man appeared 902 00:55:58,873 --> 00:56:02,468 "who shouted: You got a problem? And words I didn't understand. 903 00:56:02,673 --> 00:56:04,152 "I said: My purse was opened. 904 00:56:04,393 --> 00:56:07,703 "Then the man punched me in the face." 905 00:56:07,913 --> 00:56:09,471 So that's your buddy? 906 00:56:10,313 --> 00:56:13,942 "I was hurt on the right eyebrow, my glasses broken. 907 00:56:14,153 --> 00:56:16,667 "My nose was bleeding, some passengers intervened 908 00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:18,670 "and the two men ran off." 909 00:56:18,953 --> 00:56:20,466 You ran off too? 910 00:56:21,193 --> 00:56:25,072 Because people ran after us, I told you. 911 00:56:25,313 --> 00:56:27,224 You tried to open the purse? 912 00:56:27,873 --> 00:56:29,226 - You tried? - Yes. 913 00:56:29,433 --> 00:56:31,344 Well sir... 914 00:56:31,553 --> 00:56:33,350 you have the art 915 00:56:33,553 --> 00:56:35,669 of keeping up appearances. 916 00:56:35,873 --> 00:56:37,591 She's putting it on. 917 00:56:37,793 --> 00:56:39,704 In the end it proves 918 00:56:39,913 --> 00:56:41,585 the police were not so wrong. 919 00:56:41,793 --> 00:56:44,705 Well sir you, who are no rogue, 920 00:56:44,913 --> 00:56:48,303 have had several police warnings. 921 00:56:48,593 --> 00:56:50,231 I've never been in jail! 922 00:56:50,433 --> 00:56:52,424 But in '89, 923 00:56:52,633 --> 00:56:54,783 juvenile court, theft... 924 00:56:55,073 --> 00:56:57,906 '89, juvenile court, 2 months suspended... 925 00:56:58,193 --> 00:57:00,468 Court in St. Etienne, as an adult... 926 00:57:00,673 --> 00:57:02,504 they can't find you, sentenced to 1 month. 927 00:57:02,713 --> 00:57:06,103 But you are pardoned... 928 00:57:06,353 --> 00:57:08,913 then in Switzerland... 929 00:57:09,113 --> 00:57:12,264 That ring a bell, Switzerland? October '92. 930 00:57:12,513 --> 00:57:15,232 Now the Swiss don't joke! 931 00:57:15,433 --> 00:57:17,663 They sent you to prison. 932 00:57:17,873 --> 00:57:21,024 3 months from the Swiss. For theft. 933 00:57:21,273 --> 00:57:22,422 What? 934 00:57:22,633 --> 00:57:24,464 3 months prison? 935 00:57:24,673 --> 00:57:25,822 - A lie! - A lie? 936 00:57:26,033 --> 00:57:29,582 - 1 week. - They got rid of you. 937 00:57:29,793 --> 00:57:31,863 - 1 week. - They were right... 938 00:57:32,073 --> 00:57:33,711 So... theft, vandalism 939 00:57:33,913 --> 00:57:36,791 violation of residence, that's the Swiss. 940 00:57:36,993 --> 00:57:40,429 Use of narcotics, illegal entry into Switzerland. 941 00:57:41,033 --> 00:57:44,230 In fact they threw you out after 1 week. 942 00:57:47,393 --> 00:57:50,465 - In jail for 1 week... - True. 943 00:57:50,673 --> 00:57:52,903 Trouble with the law for theft. 944 00:57:54,033 --> 00:57:55,227 Right... 945 00:57:55,713 --> 00:57:58,022 So I'll write down... 946 00:57:58,273 --> 00:58:00,150 Let's synthesize... 947 00:58:00,553 --> 00:58:05,911 Let's synthesize for court: "I admit trying to open the purse." 948 00:58:06,113 --> 00:58:07,785 I took nothing. 949 00:58:08,793 --> 00:58:11,546 - Right. - Opened it, but took nothing. 950 00:58:11,793 --> 00:58:13,670 "...tried to open... 951 00:58:14,193 --> 00:58:15,512 "the purse... 952 00:58:16,153 --> 00:58:18,826 "of this woman but I took nothing." 953 00:58:19,713 --> 00:58:22,273 So you feel a little less guilty? 954 00:58:24,313 --> 00:58:27,544 That's true, it's done, one must tell the truth. 955 00:58:28,353 --> 00:58:31,470 Did you take off? 956 00:58:31,713 --> 00:58:33,988 I took off because they chased me. 957 00:58:34,193 --> 00:58:35,751 So you took something! 958 00:58:35,953 --> 00:58:37,625 The people... I took what? 959 00:58:37,833 --> 00:58:39,027 You took off! 960 00:58:40,753 --> 00:58:42,311 "But I took nothing." 961 00:58:42,593 --> 00:58:44,470 You're tired, no? 962 00:58:45,033 --> 00:58:46,432 Yes, I'm tired. 963 00:58:47,033 --> 00:58:48,352 What's your job? 964 00:58:48,553 --> 00:58:49,872 What's my job? 965 00:58:50,313 --> 00:58:53,510 I should... I don't live in Paris, I live in Lyon. 966 00:58:53,713 --> 00:58:55,146 You're from Lyon? 967 00:58:55,393 --> 00:58:59,227 I wanted to do a course in bricklaying... 968 00:58:59,433 --> 00:59:02,982 Bored me. I gave up bricklaying. 969 00:59:03,193 --> 00:59:05,866 I wanted to do a course in plumbing. 970 00:59:06,473 --> 00:59:09,385 I'm waiting for an answer to start... 971 00:59:10,473 --> 00:59:11,542 I'm at my parents... 972 00:59:11,753 --> 00:59:13,948 Any trouble with them? 973 00:59:14,153 --> 00:59:15,381 - A bit. - A bit? 974 00:59:15,593 --> 00:59:19,222 No work, you know that... When you don't work... 975 00:59:19,433 --> 00:59:22,231 - Profession? - Yes. 976 00:59:22,433 --> 00:59:24,105 - What? - Welder. 977 00:59:24,353 --> 00:59:25,024 Welder... 978 00:59:25,873 --> 00:59:28,433 Yes, I hit her. I didn't mean to, I wear a ring. 979 00:59:28,633 --> 00:59:31,750 Just one rap and I left. 980 00:59:31,993 --> 00:59:33,346 You don't hit women... 981 00:59:33,553 --> 00:59:34,781 That's for sure. 982 00:59:34,993 --> 00:59:36,711 Some people take advantage... 983 00:59:36,913 --> 00:59:39,871 Women too because they're women. 984 00:59:40,073 --> 00:59:43,429 It's not done. I've dated girls, never hit a friend. 985 00:59:43,633 --> 00:59:45,305 That's good. 986 00:59:47,073 --> 00:59:48,825 Between a punch and a rap? 987 00:59:49,033 --> 00:59:51,263 No, a rap. I didn't punch her. 988 00:59:51,473 --> 00:59:52,667 Because she's a woman. 989 00:59:52,873 --> 00:59:55,307 A rap for a woman, a guy I'd have punched 990 00:59:55,513 --> 00:59:57,743 I wear a heavy ring it'd have been worse. 991 00:59:57,953 --> 01:00:00,421 - It'd have hurt. - I hoped you'd see. 992 01:00:00,633 --> 01:00:03,022 So why did you hit her? 993 01:00:03,273 --> 01:00:06,948 I hit her because coming out of the subway 994 01:00:07,153 --> 01:00:10,429 there was confusion, guys crowding my buddy. 995 01:00:10,633 --> 01:00:12,271 She yelled: "Thief!" 996 01:00:12,473 --> 01:00:14,111 I said: "Madam I didn't do it." 997 01:00:14,353 --> 01:00:16,230 I was in psychiatry. 998 01:00:16,433 --> 01:00:20,142 I'm on medication, bad nerves, you get me? 999 01:00:20,393 --> 01:00:23,430 I feel persecuted because of my background... 1000 01:00:23,633 --> 01:00:25,624 I got mad, I rapped her. That's all. 1001 01:00:25,833 --> 01:00:27,983 I didn't need to steal. 1002 01:00:28,193 --> 01:00:29,865 My buddy has food stamps 1003 01:00:30,073 --> 01:00:31,745 and I was homeless... 1004 01:00:31,953 --> 01:00:34,547 But why come to Paris? 1005 01:00:34,753 --> 01:00:36,391 Here, no, no! I'm there. 1006 01:00:36,593 --> 01:00:39,903 I've been there 6 months, training reeducation... 1007 01:00:40,113 --> 01:00:43,389 I've a 2-year state contract... 1008 01:00:43,593 --> 01:00:45,663 A social worker sees me in N�mes. 1009 01:00:45,873 --> 01:00:48,751 I've a place in N�mes. I'm here on vacation. 1010 01:00:48,953 --> 01:00:52,229 On the 5th I must get a deal in a hotel... 1011 01:00:52,433 --> 01:00:55,982 - You buying? - No, find a trainee job... 1012 01:00:56,193 --> 01:00:59,105 I found the hotel... In N�mes... 1013 01:00:59,353 --> 01:01:01,503 In N�mes? So this is a vacation? 1014 01:01:01,713 --> 01:01:04,022 I last saw my parents when I was 16 1015 01:01:04,273 --> 01:01:08,027 now I'm 24, I still haven't seen them. 1016 01:01:08,273 --> 01:01:12,744 I met him at a homeless place in Tolbiac, you can stay there. 1017 01:01:12,953 --> 01:01:15,308 There are homeless, hobos... 1018 01:01:15,513 --> 01:01:19,301 I said: Come to N�mes, a girlfriend will help you... 1019 01:01:19,513 --> 01:01:21,868 Do the training, settle down... 1020 01:01:22,073 --> 01:01:25,463 I get 1,300 Frs unemployment a month, plus training. 1021 01:01:27,073 --> 01:01:30,622 - So you rapped this woman? - Before... 1022 01:01:30,833 --> 01:01:34,542 When she shouted "thief" and your buddy was surrounded. 1023 01:01:34,753 --> 01:01:37,426 I hit her. I didn't intend to. 1024 01:01:37,633 --> 01:01:39,271 Don't overdo this intentional stuff. 1025 01:01:39,473 --> 01:01:43,102 You intentionally chose not to punch but to rap. 1026 01:01:43,353 --> 01:01:45,150 - Intentionally? - Yes. 1027 01:01:45,393 --> 01:01:48,749 I saw a woman, I hit her. A guy I'd have punched. 1028 01:01:49,393 --> 01:01:52,032 You hit her because she shouted 1029 01:01:52,553 --> 01:01:53,508 "thief"... 1030 01:01:53,713 --> 01:01:55,465 I protected my friend. 1031 01:01:56,193 --> 01:01:59,071 - Sadly he's the thief... - Yes. 1032 01:02:00,153 --> 01:02:02,383 What about the theft? 1033 01:02:02,513 --> 01:02:03,787 Why did you hit her? 1034 01:02:03,993 --> 01:02:05,824 I came out of the subway 1035 01:02:06,033 --> 01:02:07,785 my buddy was surrounded. I didn't know... 1036 01:02:07,993 --> 01:02:11,508 - Surrounded by? - Zorros we call them, people. 1037 01:02:11,713 --> 01:02:13,669 I turned round, went to help him. 1038 01:02:13,873 --> 01:02:17,786 He's my guy. I met him this week. To help... 1039 01:02:17,993 --> 01:02:22,509 The woman shouted "thief", I hit her, I didn't punch her. 1040 01:02:22,713 --> 01:02:26,672 If she says so it's a lie, I've a ring, I didn't punch 1041 01:02:26,873 --> 01:02:28,704 or she'd be hurt! 1042 01:02:28,913 --> 01:02:30,983 What's her name... Pauline... 1043 01:02:31,753 --> 01:02:33,584 I'm here for a rap! 1044 01:02:33,793 --> 01:02:36,068 A rap, there's the theft! 1045 01:02:36,313 --> 01:02:38,668 The other guy, not me. 1046 01:02:39,793 --> 01:02:40,862 I'm his friend. 1047 01:02:41,073 --> 01:02:42,904 Cool it! 1048 01:02:51,393 --> 01:02:53,668 It's a readaptation course. 1049 01:02:53,873 --> 01:02:57,422 I believe it, the trouble is to prove to the court. 1050 01:02:58,633 --> 01:03:00,863 My unemployment card is being sent 1051 01:03:01,073 --> 01:03:04,304 for my money... I haven't picked it up. 1052 01:03:04,513 --> 01:03:06,105 Training... Let's do the formalities. 1053 01:03:06,353 --> 01:03:07,911 Just a moment! 1054 01:03:08,113 --> 01:03:09,705 Address for the training? 1055 01:03:09,913 --> 01:03:12,507 Address? The Franca in N�mes 1056 01:03:12,713 --> 01:03:14,863 it's the group for the training 1057 01:03:16,073 --> 01:03:17,222 and I do it... 1058 01:03:17,433 --> 01:03:18,627 Phone? 1059 01:03:18,833 --> 01:03:21,222 I don't know... I left everything in N�mes. 1060 01:03:21,433 --> 01:03:24,743 Franca in N�mes... Who's in charge? 1061 01:03:24,953 --> 01:03:26,466 It's Magali... Magali... 1062 01:03:26,673 --> 01:03:27,867 Magali... surname? 1063 01:03:28,073 --> 01:03:31,748 I don't know. I didn't ask what she ate last night! 1064 01:03:32,793 --> 01:03:35,068 - You get me? - Yes... 1065 01:03:35,313 --> 01:03:37,224 I've been training for a month... 1066 01:03:37,753 --> 01:03:39,630 Readaptation... 1067 01:03:39,833 --> 01:03:40,948 How d'you get it? 1068 01:03:41,153 --> 01:03:45,226 The local mission, a career adviser Mr. Mousslic. 1069 01:03:45,753 --> 01:03:49,143 Mousslic, the adviser, he gives the courses. I told him. 1070 01:03:49,393 --> 01:03:51,065 But why N�mes? Strange... 1071 01:03:51,313 --> 01:03:53,827 I left Paris because of addiction. 1072 01:03:54,033 --> 01:03:56,342 I went to N�mes for the Feria, stayed 2 days... 1073 01:03:56,553 --> 01:04:01,547 Slowly, you went to N�mes. You stopped drugs? 1074 01:04:01,753 --> 01:04:05,462 I left Paris because of drugs, afraid to start again... prison... 1075 01:04:08,953 --> 01:04:13,902 The right eye was punched by 2 people. 1076 01:04:14,113 --> 01:04:15,148 Two people? 1077 01:04:15,393 --> 01:04:17,270 Males, unknown 1078 01:04:17,473 --> 01:04:20,624 at 9 pm leaving subway, she complains of... 1079 01:04:23,353 --> 01:04:25,071 A wound... 1080 01:04:25,793 --> 01:04:27,272 Careful now... 1081 01:04:27,873 --> 01:04:29,511 What is this? 1082 01:04:31,473 --> 01:04:32,872 - We saw her at the precinct. - Wait... 1083 01:04:33,073 --> 01:04:36,668 She had no stitches, her glasses did it. 1084 01:04:36,873 --> 01:04:41,424 A rap here, no rap nor punch here. She wants to nail me... 1085 01:04:41,633 --> 01:04:44,545 Medical certificate from H�tel Dieu 1086 01:04:44,753 --> 01:04:47,028 Good hospital... You know the ropes! 1087 01:04:47,833 --> 01:04:51,382 Certificate states supeficial wounds 1088 01:04:51,593 --> 01:04:53,709 5 stitches above right eye... 1089 01:04:53,913 --> 01:04:55,232 Bruise 1090 01:04:55,953 --> 01:04:57,068 on right... 1091 01:04:57,793 --> 01:04:59,385 Forehead... 1092 01:04:59,593 --> 01:05:01,311 Well forehead, normal. 1093 01:05:01,513 --> 01:05:04,744 Bruise upper eyelid... 1094 01:05:04,953 --> 01:05:07,865 Pain when nose touched. 1095 01:05:08,353 --> 01:05:10,662 Suggest x-ray nose... 1096 01:05:10,873 --> 01:05:13,706 No broken bones... 1097 01:05:14,033 --> 01:05:17,628 The medical certificate is serious... 1098 01:05:18,553 --> 01:05:19,952 She'll be scarred. 1099 01:05:20,153 --> 01:05:22,348 Look at my scars! 1100 01:05:22,673 --> 01:05:24,709 That's your problem! 1101 01:05:25,273 --> 01:05:28,504 Her problem is she rides a subway minds her business 1102 01:05:28,713 --> 01:05:31,466 and is rapped and scarred. 1103 01:05:31,673 --> 01:05:33,231 She said I was a thief. 1104 01:05:33,433 --> 01:05:34,786 All right, but 1105 01:05:34,993 --> 01:05:36,745 the problem is that she... 1106 01:05:36,953 --> 01:05:38,545 I didn't punch, just a rap! 1107 01:05:38,753 --> 01:05:41,028 But you rapped hard. 1108 01:05:41,273 --> 01:05:42,865 Because of the ring... 1109 01:05:43,073 --> 01:05:45,428 Yes... but... 1110 01:05:45,633 --> 01:05:47,669 nevertheless she's scarred. 1111 01:05:47,953 --> 01:05:49,989 5 stitches, it's no joke. 1112 01:05:50,193 --> 01:05:54,471 The court won't fail to point that out to you. 1113 01:05:55,473 --> 01:05:56,872 Think about it! 1114 01:05:57,553 --> 01:05:58,952 Look! 1115 01:05:59,673 --> 01:06:02,824 She's marked there, poor thing! 1116 01:06:03,513 --> 01:06:04,912 On the eyebrow... 1117 01:06:05,433 --> 01:06:07,549 Psychiatric ward... I've a bag of pills... 1118 01:06:07,753 --> 01:06:09,550 I take pills for my nerves 1119 01:06:09,753 --> 01:06:12,825 I'm still wired, nervous... 1120 01:06:13,033 --> 01:06:15,308 I try to stop heroine... 1121 01:06:15,513 --> 01:06:16,912 - You stopped or... - I stopped. 1122 01:06:17,113 --> 01:06:18,387 You stopped or tried? 1123 01:06:18,593 --> 01:06:21,426 I stopped but when I come to Paris... 1124 01:06:21,633 --> 01:06:23,146 Then stop coming to Paris. 1125 01:06:23,393 --> 01:06:25,349 I'm going back in a hurry. 1126 01:06:25,553 --> 01:06:27,828 I'll be jailed for a rap... 1127 01:06:29,513 --> 01:06:31,390 It's about a store theft. 1128 01:06:31,593 --> 01:06:35,268 It took place at Virgin Megastore. 1129 01:06:35,473 --> 01:06:37,509 It happened the 19th, 1130 01:06:37,713 --> 01:06:39,863 that's yesterday, at 11.45 pm. 1131 01:06:40,073 --> 01:06:42,428 For a total of 591 Frs. 1132 01:06:42,953 --> 01:06:44,830 The person admitted it. 1133 01:06:45,033 --> 01:06:46,546 What did he take? 1134 01:06:46,753 --> 01:06:49,665 - Some CDs. - CDs... Is he known? 1135 01:06:49,873 --> 01:06:54,230 Very unfavorably. Third time we had him this year 1136 01:06:54,433 --> 01:06:56,867 and he was brought in twice in 2 other districts. 1137 01:06:57,073 --> 01:06:59,428 Hand him over to make a point... 1138 01:06:59,633 --> 01:07:00,702 To court... 1139 01:07:10,433 --> 01:07:13,743 A court procedure... 1140 01:07:15,873 --> 01:07:17,147 Date of birth? 1141 01:07:17,393 --> 01:07:18,826 May 22, '75. 1142 01:07:19,033 --> 01:07:20,864 - Which makes you? - 18. 1143 01:07:21,073 --> 01:07:22,267 18 years old. 1144 01:07:22,473 --> 01:07:23,428 Born, where? 1145 01:07:23,633 --> 01:07:25,271 The Jura. 1146 01:07:25,473 --> 01:07:27,748 - Nationality? - French. 1147 01:07:28,753 --> 01:07:30,948 Your current profession? 1148 01:07:31,153 --> 01:07:35,032 School, first year literature at... 1149 01:07:35,593 --> 01:07:38,790 in the 5th district. 1150 01:07:42,553 --> 01:07:44,669 Brothers, sisters? 1151 01:07:45,913 --> 01:07:48,427 A brother who died at birth 1152 01:07:48,633 --> 01:07:50,703 my step-mother has a son 1153 01:07:50,913 --> 01:07:52,904 he's not my father's son 1154 01:07:53,113 --> 01:07:54,751 they married later. 1155 01:07:54,953 --> 01:07:57,387 - You live at home? - With my father. 1156 01:07:57,593 --> 01:07:58,946 His profession? 1157 01:07:59,153 --> 01:08:00,950 Art director. 1158 01:08:03,633 --> 01:08:05,988 You are here 1159 01:08:06,193 --> 01:08:08,149 accused on two counts. 1160 01:08:08,393 --> 01:08:10,702 First, damaging property 1161 01:08:10,913 --> 01:08:13,268 belonging to Parisian Transport. 1162 01:08:14,473 --> 01:08:18,352 - Graffiti on a subway car. - In a subway car. 1163 01:08:18,553 --> 01:08:22,023 Why did you do these graffiti? 1164 01:08:24,833 --> 01:08:27,347 I've absolutely no idea... because... 1165 01:08:29,633 --> 01:08:32,989 It destroys, pollutes the environment. 1166 01:08:33,193 --> 01:08:36,549 Parisian Transport spends a fortune 1167 01:08:36,753 --> 01:08:39,142 to ensure cleanliness... 1168 01:08:40,793 --> 01:08:42,431 Why d'you do it? 1169 01:08:42,753 --> 01:08:46,143 It only achieves dirtying and damaging. 1170 01:08:46,393 --> 01:08:47,792 I do it from time to time. 1171 01:08:47,993 --> 01:08:51,269 It achieves nothing. You bother everyone. 1172 01:08:53,673 --> 01:08:56,710 - What d'you think? - Yes, because... 1173 01:09:00,633 --> 01:09:04,148 And you committed acts of violence 1174 01:09:04,393 --> 01:09:06,509 against a Transport official. 1175 01:09:07,793 --> 01:09:09,670 What happened? What d'you do? 1176 01:09:09,873 --> 01:09:13,582 We were between Rue du Bac 1177 01:09:13,793 --> 01:09:15,863 and S�vres-Babylone. 1178 01:09:16,793 --> 01:09:18,829 I'd done my graffiti 1179 01:09:20,033 --> 01:09:21,705 and the driver saw it. 1180 01:09:21,913 --> 01:09:25,110 So we get to S�vres-Babylone. 1181 01:09:25,353 --> 01:09:28,823 I stood up so I could get out. 1182 01:09:29,113 --> 01:09:30,910 Facing the door. 1183 01:09:31,553 --> 01:09:33,942 On my left was the driver's cabin. 1184 01:09:34,153 --> 01:09:36,348 I was in the first car 1185 01:09:36,633 --> 01:09:38,146 just behind the cabin. 1186 01:09:38,953 --> 01:09:43,026 I didn't look ahead I didn't look left 1187 01:09:43,273 --> 01:09:46,026 to the head of the train. I was just gazing. 1188 01:09:46,273 --> 01:09:49,504 I open the door, push the lock, 1189 01:09:49,753 --> 01:09:51,152 the door opens 1190 01:09:51,993 --> 01:09:53,631 and he grabs me... 1191 01:09:53,913 --> 01:09:56,268 I didn't think it was an employee, 1192 01:09:56,473 --> 01:09:58,464 that it was a subway driver 1193 01:09:58,673 --> 01:10:00,504 because he seemed to be 1194 01:10:00,713 --> 01:10:03,386 about 20, more a student. 1195 01:10:03,593 --> 01:10:05,709 He was dressed 1196 01:10:05,953 --> 01:10:09,070 I don't know, rather like me 1197 01:10:10,873 --> 01:10:12,909 and I didn't realize he was a... 1198 01:10:13,113 --> 01:10:14,944 He had a badge? 1199 01:10:15,153 --> 01:10:16,825 I didn't see. He caught me. 1200 01:10:17,033 --> 01:10:19,706 I was face to face with him. 1201 01:10:19,913 --> 01:10:21,824 That's all I know. 1202 01:10:22,473 --> 01:10:24,464 I don't know what happened... 1203 01:10:24,673 --> 01:10:26,550 I found myself there... 1204 01:10:28,793 --> 01:10:30,784 In a flash I found myself 1205 01:10:30,993 --> 01:10:32,824 using my spray can... 1206 01:10:35,513 --> 01:10:39,506 A medical certificate for 7 days incapacity... 1207 01:10:40,313 --> 01:10:42,349 He does his job! 1208 01:10:43,953 --> 01:10:47,582 Well, I'm going to release you. 1209 01:10:50,873 --> 01:10:52,101 The hearing date... 1210 01:10:52,353 --> 01:10:56,392 You must be in court on Friday, March 4, '94. 1211 01:11:01,913 --> 01:11:06,111 Meanwhile you're on probation, 1212 01:11:06,353 --> 01:11:09,390 which means you can commit no offence 1213 01:11:09,593 --> 01:11:13,632 and must fulfill your obligations. 1214 01:11:13,833 --> 01:11:16,631 On March 4 you say what happened. 1215 01:11:16,833 --> 01:11:20,906 The Transport official will testify and the court will decide. 1216 01:11:21,433 --> 01:11:24,106 You're free, but above all 1217 01:11:24,513 --> 01:11:26,788 keep very calm 1218 01:11:26,993 --> 01:11:29,348 and commit no further offence. 1219 01:11:29,553 --> 01:11:31,908 No, now that... It's over... 1220 01:11:32,113 --> 01:11:33,341 And don't 1221 01:11:34,113 --> 01:11:36,388 ruin your studies by another offence... 1222 01:11:36,593 --> 01:11:39,061 I don't have a violent nature 1223 01:11:39,313 --> 01:11:41,827 but I panicked. I think I panic easily. 1224 01:11:42,033 --> 01:11:45,628 - These men do their job. - Nothing against them. 1225 01:11:45,833 --> 01:11:47,983 The Transport's property 1226 01:11:48,193 --> 01:11:52,232 must be preserved and maintained. 1227 01:12:46,516 --> 01:12:50,304 An investigator reports to the court on both 1228 01:12:50,516 --> 01:12:53,269 the personal and professional status 1229 01:12:53,476 --> 01:12:55,194 of the person arrested. 1230 01:12:56,596 --> 01:12:58,712 Let me think... 1231 01:13:05,276 --> 01:13:10,304 Let's say, I've always done business to earn my living. 1232 01:13:10,516 --> 01:13:12,188 What business? 1233 01:13:13,796 --> 01:13:15,627 I sell narcotics. 1234 01:13:20,276 --> 01:13:22,312 That's much tougher. 1235 01:13:22,996 --> 01:13:24,668 Then don't write it. 1236 01:13:25,076 --> 01:13:29,547 No, you tell me that like that... It's... 1237 01:13:29,756 --> 01:13:32,145 You write it down, then you... 1238 01:13:32,876 --> 01:13:35,629 Right, I won't say anything else. 1239 01:13:36,596 --> 01:13:39,064 Because you'll show it to the D.A. 1240 01:13:39,276 --> 01:13:41,471 You'll show it to them... That's fine! 1241 01:13:44,476 --> 01:13:47,707 Listen, I don't give this to them. 1242 01:13:47,956 --> 01:13:49,947 I recopy it. 1243 01:13:50,156 --> 01:13:51,987 So this is between us. 1244 01:13:52,196 --> 01:13:53,993 If I tell you that... 1245 01:13:54,196 --> 01:13:55,834 I thought it was between us. 1246 01:13:56,076 --> 01:13:58,192 - It will be. - Good. 1247 01:13:58,676 --> 01:14:02,146 If not I'd rather go. I don't want to nail myself! 1248 01:14:02,356 --> 01:14:04,028 If there's no trust... 1249 01:14:04,236 --> 01:14:07,387 The two of us are here, talking. 1250 01:14:08,716 --> 01:14:10,911 Of course, I'm not going to... 1251 01:14:12,436 --> 01:14:14,233 I'm not here either... 1252 01:14:16,396 --> 01:14:18,387 to cause you more trouble 1253 01:14:18,596 --> 01:14:23,590 but we're here to look at your case, that's what I'm doing. 1254 01:14:23,796 --> 01:14:26,435 If you show that to the D. A... 1255 01:14:26,636 --> 01:14:28,945 In one week 1256 01:14:29,156 --> 01:14:31,465 I've been in 3 times for narcotics. 1257 01:14:31,676 --> 01:14:34,793 Why? I had a lot. 1258 01:14:35,036 --> 01:14:39,029 Luckily I didn't have much money... 1259 01:14:39,276 --> 01:14:43,792 The truth is that here you are 1260 01:14:44,036 --> 01:14:45,788 telling me this. 1261 01:14:46,316 --> 01:14:48,511 It's provocation... 1262 01:14:48,716 --> 01:14:51,150 This is to do with the law, right? 1263 01:14:51,356 --> 01:14:52,550 Yes, but... 1264 01:14:53,356 --> 01:14:57,269 But at the same time you can't tell me 1265 01:14:57,476 --> 01:14:59,148 you live by selling drugs. 1266 01:14:59,356 --> 01:15:02,951 It's no secret, 200 Frs a day for your hotel 1267 01:15:03,156 --> 01:15:07,274 so you must get money from somewhere... 1268 01:15:10,396 --> 01:15:12,705 For you it's a business. 1269 01:15:13,476 --> 01:15:14,829 And prostitution. 1270 01:15:15,076 --> 01:15:17,306 And prostitution, right. 1271 01:15:17,516 --> 01:15:19,074 And you were... 1272 01:15:20,316 --> 01:15:22,113 Until June you told me 1273 01:15:22,316 --> 01:15:25,626 you lived in St. Germain-en-Laye at your father's. 1274 01:15:25,836 --> 01:15:29,545 What made you leave? 1275 01:15:30,076 --> 01:15:33,034 I wanted to be independent. 1276 01:15:33,236 --> 01:15:35,796 Not be dependent on him. 1277 01:15:36,036 --> 01:15:38,072 Was it hard to live with him? 1278 01:15:38,276 --> 01:15:40,028 No, not at all 1279 01:15:40,436 --> 01:15:41,755 not at all but... 1280 01:15:43,316 --> 01:15:45,386 Money, it's all he could give. 1281 01:15:45,596 --> 01:15:49,589 That's not what I want in a father. 1282 01:15:49,836 --> 01:15:51,827 Did you discuss this? 1283 01:15:52,076 --> 01:15:53,225 No. 1284 01:15:54,316 --> 01:15:57,308 He's very undemonstrative and 1285 01:15:59,036 --> 01:16:01,994 talking was hard once he knew I took drugs. 1286 01:16:04,316 --> 01:16:06,068 Can I have a cigarette please? 1287 01:16:06,276 --> 01:16:07,789 You'll have one. 1288 01:16:08,116 --> 01:16:09,105 Yes, but now... 1289 01:16:09,316 --> 01:16:10,954 Not for the moment 1290 01:16:11,316 --> 01:16:14,149 it's the gendarme's orders. 1291 01:16:15,956 --> 01:16:18,595 You'll have one when we finish. 1292 01:16:20,676 --> 01:16:21,711 All right? 1293 01:16:22,556 --> 01:16:25,593 But he won't let me smoke it! 1294 01:16:26,276 --> 01:16:29,029 You'll have one when you go to the cell. 1295 01:16:29,236 --> 01:16:32,308 You'll have one, it won't be long. 1296 01:16:32,516 --> 01:16:34,234 Yeah, you give it to me 1297 01:16:34,436 --> 01:16:36,392 I'll put it in my pocket. 1298 01:16:38,116 --> 01:16:42,348 If you like I'll pay for it, I've cash in my stuff. 1299 01:16:42,556 --> 01:16:44,990 I'm never without money 1300 01:16:45,196 --> 01:16:47,551 because I'm always cautious 1301 01:16:47,756 --> 01:16:49,633 more so in a stolen car. 1302 01:16:49,836 --> 01:16:54,068 I said to myself: I know I'll be caught. 1303 01:16:55,156 --> 01:16:56,430 You knew it? 1304 01:16:56,716 --> 01:16:58,627 I thought so 1305 01:16:58,996 --> 01:17:00,634 because of my driving! 1306 01:17:00,836 --> 01:17:04,146 A 2L really moves along! 1307 01:17:04,356 --> 01:17:06,267 You liked the car? 1308 01:17:06,796 --> 01:17:08,309 Really liked it! 1309 01:17:11,876 --> 01:17:15,391 Of all the cars I've stolen, it's... 1310 01:17:16,876 --> 01:17:19,185 I took pills, excuse me... 1311 01:17:19,876 --> 01:17:22,595 It's one of the best I've stolen 1312 01:17:22,796 --> 01:17:26,232 I did have a great 5GT Turbo... 1313 01:17:26,716 --> 01:17:28,388 It was yours? 1314 01:17:28,596 --> 01:17:31,906 Well I stole it. I always steal cars. 1315 01:17:32,116 --> 01:17:35,552 D'you like stealing cars? I mean what does... 1316 01:17:35,756 --> 01:17:37,428 Poweful cars... 1317 01:17:37,636 --> 01:17:41,265 I wouldn't steal a little 104 or R5! 1318 01:17:43,156 --> 01:17:46,273 You feel you're poweful? 1319 01:17:46,476 --> 01:17:47,545 Not at all... 1320 01:17:47,756 --> 01:17:51,465 What goes on in your head when you see a car like that? 1321 01:17:51,676 --> 01:17:53,075 What goes on? 1322 01:17:54,316 --> 01:17:59,310 What goes on is that I like to have fun, to push it! 1323 01:17:59,516 --> 01:18:01,313 Push it... go fast? 1324 01:18:01,516 --> 01:18:04,588 That's it, speed. I adore speeding. 1325 01:18:04,796 --> 01:18:06,787 I'm a good driver. 1326 01:18:07,396 --> 01:18:09,227 You've no licence? 1327 01:18:09,636 --> 01:18:10,432 No! 1328 01:18:12,196 --> 01:18:15,791 How did this car strike you? 1329 01:18:16,036 --> 01:18:19,585 What did you like in it? 1330 01:18:19,836 --> 01:18:21,633 The fact that it was... 1331 01:18:22,436 --> 01:18:24,233 A turbo 2L. 1332 01:18:24,436 --> 01:18:25,949 Did that... 1333 01:18:26,156 --> 01:18:29,114 Well 220 kmh on the freeway... 1334 01:18:29,396 --> 01:18:32,115 You drove on the freeway? 1335 01:18:32,396 --> 01:18:36,514 Yes I did, I drove on the A15, the A86 1336 01:18:36,836 --> 01:18:41,114 and all the innercity boulevard... 1337 01:18:44,156 --> 01:18:46,306 Your name is Lef�vre, Muriel? 1338 01:18:46,516 --> 01:18:49,269 Born Sep. 8, '71 in Evreux? 1339 01:18:49,476 --> 01:18:50,704 That's it. 1340 01:18:50,956 --> 01:18:53,993 You still agree to be filmed? 1341 01:18:54,196 --> 01:18:57,313 Yes, is my hair all right? 1342 01:18:57,516 --> 01:18:59,586 It's a documentary. 1343 01:18:59,796 --> 01:19:01,752 It's not a film 1344 01:19:02,116 --> 01:19:03,629 aimed at glorifying...! 1345 01:19:03,836 --> 01:19:05,633 I was joking. 1346 01:19:07,596 --> 01:19:10,508 You're here for a theft. On Jan. 4, '94 1347 01:19:10,716 --> 01:19:15,073 you're found starting a car by connecting 2 wires 1348 01:19:15,276 --> 01:19:19,474 this shows some experience, you need know-how to do that 1349 01:19:19,676 --> 01:19:23,669 the vehicule had been stolen from Mr. Perrin, Christophe. 1350 01:19:23,876 --> 01:19:28,472 I don't know if you committed the first theft, 1351 01:19:28,676 --> 01:19:31,031 tampered with and had then driven it, 1352 01:19:31,236 --> 01:19:33,750 had stopped and reentered it, 1353 01:19:33,996 --> 01:19:36,510 or if someone else committed the first theft, 1354 01:19:36,716 --> 01:19:39,992 tampered with the wires, the ignition 1355 01:19:40,196 --> 01:19:42,346 and then you got in the car. 1356 01:19:42,556 --> 01:19:46,674 What's certain is that a thing can be stolen several times. 1357 01:19:46,876 --> 01:19:48,309 You were caught 1358 01:19:48,516 --> 01:19:52,509 starting up this car... 1359 01:19:52,756 --> 01:19:55,145 I wasn't starting it. I turned it on 1360 01:19:55,356 --> 01:19:57,028 to open the back doors 1361 01:19:57,236 --> 01:19:58,954 to pick up some clothes 1362 01:19:59,156 --> 01:20:00,908 I had put there. 1363 01:20:01,356 --> 01:20:03,916 You were already inside. I'll read this 1364 01:20:04,116 --> 01:20:06,311 to see if we agree. 1365 01:20:06,756 --> 01:20:10,112 - I don't deny it. - If you're inside, you got in. 1366 01:20:10,316 --> 01:20:12,113 If you got in you can get out. 1367 01:20:12,316 --> 01:20:14,147 The need to start up 1368 01:20:14,356 --> 01:20:16,233 - doesn't follow... - It does. 1369 01:20:16,436 --> 01:20:19,746 Passersby... I'll quote the file. 1370 01:20:19,996 --> 01:20:22,590 "Passersby are surprised to see a car, 1371 01:20:22,796 --> 01:20:24,787 doors open, lights on, wires torn out, 1372 01:20:24,996 --> 01:20:26,987 "parked outside a garage entrance... 1373 01:20:27,196 --> 01:20:29,790 "She-that's you - had connected various wires. 1374 01:20:30,036 --> 01:20:31,913 "The engine was running..." 1375 01:20:32,116 --> 01:20:34,311 That's what witnesses say. 1376 01:20:37,196 --> 01:20:38,151 What can I say? 1377 01:20:38,356 --> 01:20:40,586 The truth. It'd help me. 1378 01:20:44,556 --> 01:20:46,786 I don't know. I've nothing to say. 1379 01:20:49,076 --> 01:20:53,991 The witness is very clear, d'you agree or not? 1380 01:20:54,876 --> 01:20:57,436 Yes, if I started it up 1381 01:20:57,636 --> 01:20:59,706 it was to open the back doors 1382 01:20:59,956 --> 01:21:02,186 to get my pants 1383 01:21:02,836 --> 01:21:05,555 because it's all electric. 1384 01:21:08,596 --> 01:21:10,712 Why? To start up the engine 1385 01:21:10,956 --> 01:21:13,550 was the way to open the back doors? 1386 01:21:14,596 --> 01:21:17,668 I can't start it any other way. 1387 01:21:18,116 --> 01:21:20,346 One can put it in some gear 1388 01:21:20,556 --> 01:21:22,751 but with wires it may not be easy. 1389 01:21:22,996 --> 01:21:24,190 I don't know... 1390 01:21:25,436 --> 01:21:26,425 I never... 1391 01:21:26,636 --> 01:21:29,548 You didn't intend to drive off? 1392 01:21:29,756 --> 01:21:31,587 I can't drive... 1393 01:21:38,516 --> 01:21:40,666 Yes... It didn't... 1394 01:21:40,876 --> 01:21:43,948 It didn't occur to you not to get in the car? 1395 01:21:44,356 --> 01:21:46,426 I was going nearby. 1396 01:21:47,316 --> 01:21:49,272 I could have walked. 1397 01:21:55,956 --> 01:21:58,345 It's unwise to get in a stolen car. 1398 01:22:03,556 --> 01:22:05,467 Sure you can't drive? 1399 01:22:05,836 --> 01:22:07,986 I don't have a licence. 1400 01:22:14,076 --> 01:22:16,351 People with no licence do drive! 1401 01:22:16,556 --> 01:22:18,467 I'd like to. 1402 01:22:20,636 --> 01:22:22,547 So your name is Muriel Lef�vre? 1403 01:22:22,636 --> 01:22:24,149 That's it. 1404 01:22:24,516 --> 01:22:28,225 I'm the lawyer who'll defend you later. 1405 01:22:28,436 --> 01:22:31,269 - The legal aid lawyer? - That's right. 1406 01:22:31,476 --> 01:22:34,548 I was chosen by the head of the bar association 1407 01:22:34,756 --> 01:22:37,316 to assist you free of charge. 1408 01:22:37,516 --> 01:22:39,666 - A state service. - Cool. 1409 01:22:39,876 --> 01:22:42,948 I'm a criminal lawyer but sometimes 1410 01:22:43,156 --> 01:22:46,831 I agree to defend people like you. 1411 01:22:47,076 --> 01:22:50,785 You have a record... quite full... 1412 01:22:51,036 --> 01:22:53,550 For ordinary thefts... 1413 01:22:53,876 --> 01:22:55,992 Five endorsements. 1414 01:22:56,196 --> 01:22:59,825 - What's that? - 5 convictions. 1415 01:23:00,356 --> 01:23:01,505 I didn't appear. 1416 01:23:01,716 --> 01:23:04,753 Yes, now let's see... 1417 01:23:04,996 --> 01:23:05,951 Do I go to prison? 1418 01:23:06,156 --> 01:23:08,795 Pontoise, narcotics... 1419 01:23:10,116 --> 01:23:11,788 A narcotics case first. 1420 01:23:12,036 --> 01:23:13,230 Narcotics in Pontoise... 1421 01:23:13,436 --> 01:23:14,994 Drugs... 1422 01:23:15,836 --> 01:23:19,033 Illegal use of drugs. Theft, that ring a bell? 1423 01:23:19,236 --> 01:23:20,305 No. 1424 01:23:21,116 --> 01:23:23,471 Then Versailles, theft. 1425 01:23:24,396 --> 01:23:29,186 - Versailles? - High court, Versailles? 1426 01:23:29,796 --> 01:23:31,912 I never went there... 1427 01:23:32,116 --> 01:23:33,515 Then Nanterre... 1428 01:23:33,836 --> 01:23:36,270 - Theft again. - Nanterre, yes. 1429 01:23:36,476 --> 01:23:41,630 You didn't turn up anywhere, non-appearances, contradictions. 1430 01:23:44,556 --> 01:23:47,024 Suspended sentence each time. 1431 01:23:47,676 --> 01:23:49,428 I got lucky. 1432 01:23:49,756 --> 01:23:50,905 You did. 1433 01:23:51,236 --> 01:23:52,749 You think I'll go to prison? 1434 01:23:52,996 --> 01:23:55,988 Tell me what happened. 1435 01:23:56,596 --> 01:23:57,824 Then I go to prison? 1436 01:23:58,076 --> 01:23:59,668 Tell me what happened. 1437 01:23:59,876 --> 01:24:01,309 Then I go to prison? 1438 01:24:01,516 --> 01:24:04,394 We'll do all we can so you don't. 1439 01:24:04,596 --> 01:24:06,552 - You ever been to prison? - No. 1440 01:24:06,756 --> 01:24:07,393 - Never? - No. 1441 01:24:07,596 --> 01:24:08,551 Age? 1442 01:24:08,756 --> 01:24:09,950 22. 1443 01:24:10,156 --> 01:24:11,475 22 years old. 1444 01:24:13,596 --> 01:24:15,075 Born in Evreux? 1445 01:24:15,276 --> 01:24:19,155 Yes. I'd hang myself rather than go to prison. 1446 01:24:19,356 --> 01:24:21,312 - Yes? - Oh yes! 1447 01:24:21,516 --> 01:24:24,906 Tell me about you, then we discuss your file 1448 01:24:25,116 --> 01:24:27,107 and we'll see about prison. 1449 01:24:27,316 --> 01:24:29,272 We'll try to avoid that. 1450 01:24:29,516 --> 01:24:31,905 You're 22. Are your parents alive? 1451 01:24:32,196 --> 01:24:33,470 My father. 1452 01:24:35,956 --> 01:24:38,311 Have you been to school? 1453 01:24:38,516 --> 01:24:40,427 Yes, secretarial course. 1454 01:24:40,636 --> 01:24:44,834 That's a bad scar... Did you break your arm? 1455 01:24:45,076 --> 01:24:46,304 Yes. 1456 01:24:46,716 --> 01:24:48,274 What's that? 1457 01:24:48,636 --> 01:24:50,513 A bad blow... 1458 01:24:51,076 --> 01:24:53,032 How d'you do it? 1459 01:24:53,236 --> 01:24:54,351 I fell... 1460 01:24:54,556 --> 01:24:55,750 You fell... 1461 01:24:56,156 --> 01:24:58,431 You have a boyfriend, a fianc�? 1462 01:24:58,636 --> 01:25:00,467 No, I live alone 1463 01:25:01,196 --> 01:25:03,073 I'm a Ioner. 1464 01:25:09,116 --> 01:25:10,754 I'm looking at this procedure... 1465 01:25:10,996 --> 01:25:13,066 to see if there's any likely nullity... 1466 01:25:13,276 --> 01:25:15,187 - What? - Procedural nullity. 1467 01:25:15,396 --> 01:25:17,910 Because if there is... 1468 01:25:18,556 --> 01:25:23,232 I must inform the court, it can wipe out the records. 1469 01:25:23,436 --> 01:25:25,586 That's how a case can be dismissed. 1470 01:25:25,796 --> 01:25:27,229 That'd be great! 1471 01:25:27,436 --> 01:25:31,315 - You'd be released. - That means... 1472 01:25:31,516 --> 01:25:33,552 No, wait a moment... 1473 01:25:36,516 --> 01:25:39,508 You'll get your stuff... 1474 01:25:39,716 --> 01:25:41,274 There's money. 1475 01:25:41,476 --> 01:25:43,068 A lot of money? 1476 01:25:43,276 --> 01:25:45,744 No, but enough. 1477 01:25:46,196 --> 01:25:47,515 You live in a hotel? 1478 01:25:47,716 --> 01:25:49,752 Yes, 200 Frs a day. 1479 01:25:52,316 --> 01:25:54,546 You an addict? A little or not at all? 1480 01:25:54,756 --> 01:25:56,030 I smoke. 1481 01:25:56,236 --> 01:25:57,271 Smoke, that's all? 1482 01:25:57,476 --> 01:25:59,467 I smoke cocaine. 1483 01:26:00,636 --> 01:26:02,228 Ever shoot up? 1484 01:26:02,436 --> 01:26:03,073 Heroine? 1485 01:26:03,276 --> 01:26:05,744 Before, not now. 1486 01:26:05,996 --> 01:26:07,714 Are you healthy? 1487 01:26:08,276 --> 01:26:09,550 HIV+... 1488 01:26:09,756 --> 01:26:11,348 HIV+? 1489 01:26:17,316 --> 01:26:18,954 Are you sick? 1490 01:26:20,636 --> 01:26:22,627 No, I'm still HIV+. 1491 01:26:22,836 --> 01:26:24,827 I've 1,400 T4... 1492 01:26:25,236 --> 01:26:28,512 that means I'm like you, as many cells as you. 1493 01:26:28,716 --> 01:26:30,354 Once every 6 months is enough. 1494 01:26:30,556 --> 01:26:34,993 In January I'm due for another test 1495 01:26:35,196 --> 01:26:36,788 to see about the T4 1496 01:26:37,036 --> 01:26:38,788 because I watch it 1497 01:26:39,036 --> 01:26:42,073 although I've no permanent home... 1498 01:26:42,596 --> 01:26:44,268 My health is what counts. 1499 01:26:44,476 --> 01:26:46,785 I've still got all my teeth! 1500 01:26:48,596 --> 01:26:50,587 I look after my body. 1501 01:26:53,276 --> 01:26:55,153 I don't let myself go. 1502 01:27:17,436 --> 01:27:19,074 What did you tell the police? 1503 01:27:19,276 --> 01:27:21,471 "I got in this car around 11.45 am. 1504 01:27:21,676 --> 01:27:24,748 "An addict picked me up when I was hooking Blvd. Ney. 1505 01:27:24,996 --> 01:27:28,909 "We went rue Simplon to buy dope. 1506 01:27:29,116 --> 01:27:33,189 "I lost him. Not knowing where to go I got my stuff. 1507 01:27:33,396 --> 01:27:36,035 "I didn't try to start up the Renault. 1508 01:27:37,396 --> 01:27:40,388 "I only tried to open the back door... 1509 01:27:40,596 --> 01:27:43,349 "Once I'd started it I saw 1510 01:27:43,556 --> 01:27:46,946 "that the Neiman wires were torn out..." 1511 01:27:47,356 --> 01:27:49,108 Who said that? 1512 01:27:54,756 --> 01:27:56,667 "I know this guy by sight. 1513 01:27:57,636 --> 01:28:00,708 "He calls himself Albert, an addict..." 1514 01:28:07,156 --> 01:28:09,226 Was the custody all right? 1515 01:28:09,556 --> 01:28:14,072 No trouble in the cell, in the precinct? 1516 01:28:14,996 --> 01:28:16,145 Were they nice to you? 1517 01:28:16,356 --> 01:28:17,835 Yes, all right. 1518 01:28:20,796 --> 01:28:21,672 Good. 1519 01:28:23,116 --> 01:28:25,789 What will you say to the judge later? 1520 01:28:26,316 --> 01:28:27,590 What should I say? 1521 01:28:27,796 --> 01:28:31,311 I don't know, tell me and I'll tell you if it's OK. 1522 01:28:32,196 --> 01:28:35,552 I've nothing ready. I'm not used to this. 1523 01:28:35,756 --> 01:28:38,031 How d'you explain this? 1524 01:28:38,236 --> 01:28:40,067 The fact you're here... 1525 01:28:41,116 --> 01:28:42,595 I don't know. 1526 01:28:42,796 --> 01:28:44,115 You don't know? 1527 01:28:51,516 --> 01:28:54,553 What did you intend to do with the car? 1528 01:28:54,756 --> 01:28:57,111 Nothing, I can't drive. 1529 01:28:57,316 --> 01:29:00,513 I asked him to leave me 1530 01:29:02,956 --> 01:29:04,548 and go on once I'd... 1531 01:29:04,756 --> 01:29:06,269 You've no licence? 1532 01:29:06,476 --> 01:29:08,592 No, I can't drive. 1533 01:29:10,996 --> 01:29:14,113 Why meddle with the Neiman wires? 1534 01:29:14,316 --> 01:29:17,911 Because of the automatic doors 1535 01:29:18,436 --> 01:29:22,145 you must turn it on to open the back. 1536 01:29:24,076 --> 01:29:25,111 Is that true? 1537 01:29:25,316 --> 01:29:27,750 It's a R21 turbo 2L. 1538 01:29:32,436 --> 01:29:34,028 I don't understand. 1539 01:29:34,316 --> 01:29:37,911 Why not turn round to pick up the things? 1540 01:29:42,076 --> 01:29:44,146 Did you want them? 1541 01:29:44,356 --> 01:29:46,108 Was it your bag? 1542 01:29:46,356 --> 01:29:48,233 You opened the front door? 1543 01:29:48,436 --> 01:29:52,987 - How did you open it? - It was open. 1544 01:29:53,196 --> 01:29:56,233 So you sat in the driver's seat? 1545 01:29:56,436 --> 01:29:59,155 You could turn and take your stuff? 1546 01:30:00,796 --> 01:30:02,866 I didn't think of it. 1547 01:30:03,356 --> 01:30:07,144 You're allowed to lie. No one forbids you to lie. 1548 01:30:07,756 --> 01:30:09,826 It doesn't matter. 1549 01:30:10,076 --> 01:30:11,794 There's no moral criterion here. 1550 01:30:12,036 --> 01:30:15,551 You're on trial, prepare your defense as you like 1551 01:30:15,756 --> 01:30:17,428 but don't say unlikely things 1552 01:30:17,636 --> 01:30:19,627 it will annoy the judge! 1553 01:30:19,836 --> 01:30:21,315 So what do I say? 1554 01:30:21,516 --> 01:30:22,790 You say the truth. 1555 01:30:23,036 --> 01:30:26,108 But I don't want to go to prison! 1556 01:30:26,316 --> 01:30:29,706 Listen you're sure to go to prison 1557 01:30:29,956 --> 01:30:32,231 if you mock the judges. 1558 01:30:32,796 --> 01:30:34,707 They're professionals 1559 01:30:34,956 --> 01:30:37,914 they're used to people like you, so either 1560 01:30:38,116 --> 01:30:39,834 say whatever you like 1561 01:30:40,076 --> 01:30:43,273 and they'll get back at you with a tougher sentence 1562 01:30:43,556 --> 01:30:45,228 or tell them the truth 1563 01:30:45,436 --> 01:30:48,508 say Your Honor I'm sorry, I've never been in prison. 1564 01:30:48,716 --> 01:30:51,071 I did want to get in this car. 1565 01:30:51,276 --> 01:30:54,348 Why try to steal it, I can't drive. 1566 01:30:54,556 --> 01:30:55,306 Right... 1567 01:30:55,516 --> 01:30:58,269 So don't you think it's more sensible 1568 01:30:58,476 --> 01:31:01,229 more believable, a better line of defense 1569 01:31:01,436 --> 01:31:04,906 than to say: Sir I started the car once inside 1570 01:31:05,116 --> 01:31:06,947 to open the back door. 1571 01:31:07,516 --> 01:31:08,790 It won't work! 1572 01:31:09,036 --> 01:31:11,675 It won't work! Who's right? You or me? 1573 01:31:11,876 --> 01:31:13,946 You, you're used to it. 1574 01:31:14,156 --> 01:31:16,795 Here's what you say to the judge. 1575 01:31:17,036 --> 01:31:19,266 You say: Sir or M'am, I don't know. 1576 01:31:19,476 --> 01:31:21,273 It's Mr le Pr�sident or Mme le Pr�sident. 1577 01:31:21,476 --> 01:31:25,674 You say M'am, I think it's a lady... 1578 01:31:25,876 --> 01:31:28,151 So you say Mme le Pr�sident 1579 01:31:28,356 --> 01:31:31,234 I'm an addict, a prostitute 1580 01:31:31,556 --> 01:31:33,353 I'm HIV+ 1581 01:31:33,716 --> 01:31:35,593 I've never been in prison 1582 01:31:35,796 --> 01:31:39,584 never Madame le Pr�sident never been in prison. 1583 01:31:39,796 --> 01:31:42,549 And I was in that car 1584 01:31:42,756 --> 01:31:44,951 it's true I tampered with the ignition 1585 01:31:45,156 --> 01:31:48,068 you know I can't even drive. 1586 01:31:48,516 --> 01:31:50,507 So I committed a misdemeanor 1587 01:31:50,716 --> 01:31:52,547 but what was the use 1588 01:31:52,756 --> 01:31:56,032 there was no sense in my act... 1589 01:31:56,236 --> 01:31:58,909 - I couldn't drive the car... - No. 1590 01:32:00,396 --> 01:32:02,990 So Madame le Pr�sident 1591 01:32:03,396 --> 01:32:07,071 I did something as stupid as my life is now 1592 01:32:07,276 --> 01:32:09,267 I don't know what I'm doing... 1593 01:32:09,476 --> 01:32:13,594 but one thing I know I don't want to go to prison... 1594 01:32:13,796 --> 01:32:16,185 If you say that 1595 01:32:16,396 --> 01:32:18,830 if you say it looking her in the eye 1596 01:32:19,076 --> 01:32:23,308 with a firm voice, it might succeed 1597 01:32:23,876 --> 01:32:25,832 in softening them a bit. All right? 1598 01:32:26,076 --> 01:32:29,193 One thing I ask, don't talk nonsense, 1599 01:32:29,396 --> 01:32:30,988 or it'll go badly... 1600 01:32:31,196 --> 01:32:35,587 Can you tell me what to say so I really get it? 1601 01:32:35,796 --> 01:32:39,471 No, I won't because you must say it 1602 01:32:39,676 --> 01:32:42,395 without learning it so it comes from the heart 1603 01:32:42,596 --> 01:32:44,666 and is the truth. All right? 1604 01:32:44,876 --> 01:32:49,313 Say who you are, what you did and why you did it. 1605 01:32:49,516 --> 01:32:51,313 Why? There's no why to it. 1606 01:32:52,316 --> 01:32:56,309 I don't have a licence, I couldn't drive it 1607 01:32:56,516 --> 01:33:00,270 but one thing I want is not to go to prison... 1608 01:33:00,476 --> 01:33:01,591 All right? 1609 01:33:01,996 --> 01:33:04,385 You start off: My name is Muriel 1610 01:33:04,596 --> 01:33:09,954 I'm a prostitute, an addict, HIV+, no driver's licence. 1611 01:33:10,156 --> 01:33:11,748 I was more or less stealing a car 1612 01:33:11,996 --> 01:33:15,033 but why? What for? I've no licence. 1613 01:33:15,236 --> 01:33:17,192 I wasn't stealing the car... 1614 01:33:17,396 --> 01:33:20,354 I was trying to start a car 1615 01:33:20,556 --> 01:33:23,946 but I couldn't steal it as I couldn't drive it. 1616 01:33:24,156 --> 01:33:27,626 All right... You say that to the judge. 1617 01:33:28,836 --> 01:33:30,792 And I'll defend you later. 1618 01:33:31,036 --> 01:33:34,028 I'll do my best so you don't go to prison. 1619 01:33:34,236 --> 01:33:36,545 We won't see each other? 1620 01:33:36,756 --> 01:33:41,307 We'll see each other, you'll be on the stand. 1621 01:33:41,516 --> 01:33:45,748 We can say a few words, but no personal contact. 1622 01:33:45,996 --> 01:33:47,668 Anything else to say? 1623 01:33:47,876 --> 01:33:49,548 Can I call anyone? 1624 01:34:00,396 --> 01:34:01,829 ...the file... 1625 01:34:02,036 --> 01:34:03,071 Shall I leave it? 1626 01:38:15,476 --> 01:38:17,068 What's your name? 1627 01:38:18,396 --> 01:38:20,466 Your first name? 1628 01:38:23,116 --> 01:38:24,947 When were you born? 1629 01:38:25,156 --> 01:38:26,475 1962. 1630 01:38:27,596 --> 01:38:29,109 Your nationality? 1631 01:38:29,316 --> 01:38:30,385 Malian. 1632 01:38:32,396 --> 01:38:34,626 Married? Children? 1633 01:38:34,836 --> 01:38:35,746 No. 1634 01:38:36,516 --> 01:38:37,710 Single? 1635 01:38:37,916 --> 01:38:38,632 Yes. 1636 01:38:40,876 --> 01:38:42,753 What work d'you do? 1637 01:38:45,436 --> 01:38:47,347 I work on building sites. 1638 01:38:47,916 --> 01:38:50,510 The boss fired me because I'm sick. 1639 01:38:52,196 --> 01:38:55,506 What's wrong, are you sick? 1640 01:38:56,156 --> 01:38:59,592 No tell me, I'm not a doctor, I'm listening. 1641 01:39:01,516 --> 01:39:02,585 The lung. 1642 01:39:05,876 --> 01:39:07,229 Tell me... 1643 01:39:07,476 --> 01:39:08,431 The lung... 1644 01:39:11,036 --> 01:39:12,867 Did you go to hospital 1645 01:39:13,076 --> 01:39:14,873 or to a private doctor? 1646 01:39:15,076 --> 01:39:17,465 - Hospital, yes... - Hospital. 1647 01:39:22,076 --> 01:39:24,590 You've been banned 1648 01:39:24,796 --> 01:39:27,708 from French territory several times. 1649 01:39:27,916 --> 01:39:31,625 A decision by Versailles court, 1650 01:39:31,836 --> 01:39:34,669 a decision by Bobigny court... 1651 01:39:36,716 --> 01:39:39,071 Judgments on June 20, '91 1652 01:39:39,276 --> 01:39:42,951 and August 9, '91. 1653 01:39:43,156 --> 01:39:46,193 Despite these bans you're in France. 1654 01:39:47,236 --> 01:39:48,669 You're aware of this? 1655 01:39:48,876 --> 01:39:49,626 Yes... 1656 01:39:49,836 --> 01:39:52,953 Tell me why you stay in France? 1657 01:39:53,156 --> 01:39:55,829 Because my passport, it's lost. 1658 01:39:56,276 --> 01:39:57,675 Where shall I go? 1659 01:39:59,596 --> 01:40:02,190 You can't return to Mali? 1660 01:40:02,436 --> 01:40:04,666 I want to leave. 1661 01:40:04,996 --> 01:40:06,031 The passport... 1662 01:40:08,756 --> 01:40:10,109 I want to try 1663 01:40:11,636 --> 01:40:12,591 to go to Mali. 1664 01:40:12,796 --> 01:40:15,629 If I find it I'll go 1665 01:40:16,036 --> 01:40:17,151 to the embassy 1666 01:40:17,396 --> 01:40:19,990 to get the passport 1667 01:40:22,396 --> 01:40:23,954 but I didn't find it yet. 1668 01:40:28,836 --> 01:40:29,746 That's it. 1669 01:40:30,716 --> 01:40:32,354 So we'll write: 1670 01:40:32,556 --> 01:40:34,035 "I know 1671 01:40:34,996 --> 01:40:38,625 "I am banned 1672 01:40:40,156 --> 01:40:41,908 "from France 1673 01:40:44,836 --> 01:40:45,905 "but 1674 01:40:46,396 --> 01:40:47,749 "I don't have 1675 01:40:49,276 --> 01:40:52,348 "any passport 1676 01:40:54,796 --> 01:40:57,515 "in order to be able 1677 01:40:59,596 --> 01:41:01,348 "to cross borders..." Is that it? 1678 01:41:01,556 --> 01:41:02,750 That's it. 1679 01:41:05,916 --> 01:41:10,148 Why not go to your embassy for ID papers to leave? 1680 01:41:10,396 --> 01:41:12,864 But even if I went there 1681 01:41:13,076 --> 01:41:14,395 I'm black... 1682 01:41:22,596 --> 01:41:24,188 I'm Malian. 1683 01:41:25,836 --> 01:41:27,064 Now there are many whites... 1684 01:41:27,276 --> 01:41:28,425 I know. 1685 01:41:28,836 --> 01:41:32,909 The proof that many come abroad... to eat... 1686 01:41:41,476 --> 01:41:43,671 That's it... the proof... 1687 01:41:44,076 --> 01:41:45,225 the proof... 1688 01:41:48,036 --> 01:41:50,504 Basically Mali doesn't interest you? 1689 01:41:50,716 --> 01:41:53,355 Why did you leave Mali? 1690 01:41:53,596 --> 01:41:55,985 - There's no means... - That's it. 1691 01:41:56,196 --> 01:41:58,869 We've no means. I've no means. 1692 01:42:02,316 --> 01:42:04,113 No work, no money. 1693 01:42:04,316 --> 01:42:05,749 No money. 1694 01:42:09,236 --> 01:42:12,069 I was arrested all the time... arrested... 1695 01:42:12,956 --> 01:42:14,992 I'm sick too... 1696 01:42:15,516 --> 01:42:16,551 I'm tired. 1697 01:42:19,236 --> 01:42:21,591 So you see the lawyer 1698 01:42:21,796 --> 01:42:25,072 chosen by the bar association to help you. 1699 01:42:25,276 --> 01:42:27,073 You explain to him 1700 01:42:27,276 --> 01:42:29,107 that in Mali you've no future. 1701 01:42:29,316 --> 01:42:32,114 There's no work, no money. 1702 01:42:32,316 --> 01:42:36,070 You're sick and you stayed in France. 1703 01:42:36,276 --> 01:42:39,666 And you have no ID papers, no passport 1704 01:42:39,876 --> 01:42:42,185 so you can't cross borders, 1705 01:42:42,436 --> 01:42:44,552 from what you tell me. 1706 01:42:46,396 --> 01:42:48,068 I've written it down... 1707 01:42:52,156 --> 01:42:54,192 You look at it and sign. 1708 01:42:54,436 --> 01:42:55,505 I sign... 1709 01:42:55,836 --> 01:42:57,155 Yes, here... 1710 01:42:59,436 --> 01:43:02,155 That's what I've written. 1711 01:43:04,116 --> 01:43:05,549 I sign... 1712 01:43:12,516 --> 01:43:15,747 You will appear in court 1713 01:43:15,956 --> 01:43:18,151 and there you will explain 1714 01:43:18,396 --> 01:43:21,354 why you're in France, why you want to stay. 1715 01:43:21,556 --> 01:43:24,275 For reasons both medical and economic. 1716 01:43:27,476 --> 01:43:28,704 Thank you sir. 1717 01:43:52,316 --> 01:43:54,068 Your nationality? 1718 01:43:54,196 --> 01:43:55,390 Algerian. 1719 01:43:55,996 --> 01:43:58,305 Are you married, single? 1720 01:43:58,556 --> 01:44:00,228 Married, 3 children. 1721 01:44:00,436 --> 01:44:03,075 Married. How old are the children? 1722 01:44:03,276 --> 01:44:05,346 The eldest girl is 8. 1723 01:44:05,676 --> 01:44:09,635 The second is two and the third is one and a half. 1724 01:44:14,636 --> 01:44:16,228 Your occupation? 1725 01:44:16,436 --> 01:44:17,835 I've two. 1726 01:44:18,516 --> 01:44:20,905 Cook and house painter. 1727 01:44:22,356 --> 01:44:24,711 Self-employed or you work... 1728 01:44:24,916 --> 01:44:26,508 I work all over... 1729 01:44:26,716 --> 01:44:28,195 - Illegally? - Yes. 1730 01:44:31,756 --> 01:44:35,385 The policemen say you stole a wallet. 1731 01:44:36,836 --> 01:44:38,110 Two of you... 1732 01:44:38,756 --> 01:44:41,316 They followed you, saw you. 1733 01:44:41,556 --> 01:44:43,672 They watched you... 1734 01:44:45,556 --> 01:44:47,751 One of you stole the wallet 1735 01:44:47,956 --> 01:44:49,753 which contained money. 1736 01:44:51,636 --> 01:44:53,786 So what did you do? 1737 01:44:54,076 --> 01:44:56,670 He gave it to me, I put it in my pocket. 1738 01:44:56,876 --> 01:44:58,832 There were two of you. You followed... 1739 01:44:59,036 --> 01:45:00,754 Was he a tourist? 1740 01:45:00,956 --> 01:45:03,516 No, a Chinese. 1741 01:45:03,716 --> 01:45:05,035 Yes that's it. 1742 01:45:06,156 --> 01:45:09,228 We didn't follow him. He was in the cafe, we went in. 1743 01:45:10,836 --> 01:45:14,385 Your buddy took the wallet and gave it to you? 1744 01:45:14,676 --> 01:45:16,268 Then you were arrested? 1745 01:45:18,156 --> 01:45:20,670 Why did you commit this theft? 1746 01:45:21,116 --> 01:45:23,346 I'm not a thief. 1747 01:45:24,116 --> 01:45:27,392 It's the first time I did it, I've no money... 1748 01:45:28,116 --> 01:45:30,391 Three kids to feed. Have to... 1749 01:45:31,316 --> 01:45:32,715 Nothing coming in. 1750 01:45:33,316 --> 01:45:35,750 The rent, I owe lots of money too. 1751 01:45:36,236 --> 01:45:38,227 How much d'you earn 1752 01:45:39,156 --> 01:45:40,225 per month? 1753 01:45:40,436 --> 01:45:43,473 I'm not working. Almost 8 months with no work. 1754 01:45:45,996 --> 01:45:49,306 So let's write: "I admit 1755 01:45:51,676 --> 01:45:52,950 "the theft... 1756 01:45:55,636 --> 01:45:56,955 "My friend 1757 01:45:58,796 --> 01:46:00,354 "took 1758 01:46:02,396 --> 01:46:03,988 "the wallet 1759 01:46:07,436 --> 01:46:11,952 "and he gave it to me." 1760 01:46:14,516 --> 01:46:15,744 Then you were arrested? 1761 01:46:15,956 --> 01:46:16,786 Yes. 1762 01:46:21,996 --> 01:46:24,112 You chose the man by chance? 1763 01:46:24,316 --> 01:46:26,034 Why choose him? 1764 01:46:26,236 --> 01:46:27,635 No, by chance 1765 01:46:28,836 --> 01:46:30,872 by chance. We saw him in the cafe. 1766 01:46:38,796 --> 01:46:41,310 You'll see a lawyer chosen by the bar... 1767 01:46:41,556 --> 01:46:45,026 He's a legal aid lawyer, he'll defend you 1768 01:46:45,236 --> 01:46:48,148 because you'll be tried in court. 1769 01:46:48,836 --> 01:46:50,235 Any convictions? 1770 01:46:50,436 --> 01:46:51,664 Never. 1771 01:46:57,756 --> 01:46:59,109 So sign here. 1772 01:46:59,556 --> 01:47:02,548 - Read it. It's what you said. - I can't read... 1773 01:47:05,956 --> 01:47:08,231 That's it and now sign here. 1774 01:47:17,356 --> 01:47:21,190 They'll give you the file for the lawyer 1775 01:47:22,636 --> 01:47:25,912 and then you go to court to be tried. 1776 01:48:31,676 --> 01:48:34,190 Adaptation: Anne Head - Ripped by: rucunus 124778