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[somber music]
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[production crew speaks
indistinctly]
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CREW 1: All right, this is
Jenn and Maya, take eight.
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[slate snaps]
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[somber music]
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CREW 2: Are you ready?
JENN: Yeah.
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Okay.
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MAYA: I don't know how she
looked me and my siblings
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in the eyes and decided,
like, you know,
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they're next.
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I don't know what
her intentions were.
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I don't know why she chose us.
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But that day,
she had made her choice.
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It wasn't your fault.
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Of course, Mom.
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MAYA: I love you.
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[music swells]
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Elisabeth,
unbelievable the way
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that you have been tackling
this issue
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related to mental illness
and mental health.
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Some of us are in recovery.
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Some of us have people,
family members,
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people that we love
and we care about
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where it's coming
from a personal place,
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so we have that insight.
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KILEY: After Finch had come
back from treatment,
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she was very vocal about
her own personal experience.
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And writing these stories
that dealt heavily
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with mental illness and trauma.
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I mean, she fought cancer.
She went public
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about sexual assault.
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She lost a friend
in the Tree of Life
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shooting in Pittsburgh.
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And everybody
was really supportive.
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But it felt like whether or not
other people had stories,
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Finch's was worse, and she had
more authority to speak on it.
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We actually had a term for it
in... in our...
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in our room, uh,
where we would say,
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"We got Finch'd".
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And I remember thinking
that it almost
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felt like a form of control.
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[keyboard keys tapping]
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[phone ringing tone]
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AUTOMATED VOICE: Your call
has been forwarded
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to an automatic voice
message system.
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[beep]
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FINCH: I was gonna
do this seriously,
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but then I decided
I'm gonna do it in sing-song.
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* When I first met
my friend Jenn... ifer *
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* I could barely
hear her voice *
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* I had to strain
to hear her voice *
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* But I saw her *
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* I saw her, and saw
how cool she was inside **
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[serene music]
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JENN: After leaving
trauma therapy,
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I had to go live
at the safe house.
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[music turns dark]
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Brendan, my husband,
was really dangerous,
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and it was really important
that he couldn't find me.
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I'm gonna leave here
to get you soon.
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Don't be frightened.
[inhales deeply]
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I just need you.
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KIM: I knew all the pain
that Jenn had gone through
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with Brendan.
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He just would not
leave her alone,
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and she was scared
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and fearful for herself
and for her kids.
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I was nervous for her.
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JENN: Being on my own
at the safe house
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was really hard,
and I was really struggling.
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Finch would message me
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all throughout the day,
every day.
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She told me about places
she'd been,
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concerts she was getting
ready to go to.
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She would send me pictures
of her and her friends.
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And at that time, my priority
was getting my kids back.
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Can I cut it now?
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- He has to make a wish.
- He's making a wish.
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JENN: I have five children.
Maya is my oldest.
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[gasps]
A ukulele, yay!
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Maya's incredible.
She's an artist.
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Van's a ballet dancer.
An amazing ballet dancer.
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I might be biased, but...
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Lift me!
[laughs]
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JENN: My little kids
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100 percent have
my big kids' numbers.
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I don't know,
they just really love each other
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and really care
about each other.
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My kids are my world.
They're everything.
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MAYA: Because of the very
problematic things going on
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with my dad, my mom had been
struggling with, uh...
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the PTSD of it all. Um...
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And so, we were taken
into state custody.
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JENN: At that time,
I'm trying to prove
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to the Department
of Children and Family
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that I'm mentally stable enough
to care for my children.
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And Finch was supportive
because she was asking
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about the kids all the time.
And...
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it felt really good.
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[traffic whooshes]
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JENN: One night,
I saw a post on Facebook.
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[suspenseful music]
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Brendan posted a picture
of a place
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that's directly outside
of the safe house.
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That...
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was terrifying.
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He obviously knew where I was.
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[phone buzzing]
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He started sending messages.
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Finch wanted to know
what was going on with me.
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And I told her everything.
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[music stops]
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And then one day,
Finch texts me.
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She told me her cancer
was in remission.
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She's like, "I don't wanna
live my life with everybody
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worrying about it.
I just wanna live."
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She's like, "I'll pay for it,
don't worry."
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So, she flew me to L.A.
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[bright music]
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As soon as I got off the plane,
there she was.
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Just as I knew her.
She gave me a big hug.
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And she just was like,
"You made it! See?
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See what you can do?
You're stronger than you think.
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Look what you just did."
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And I was like,
"Oh, wow, I did."
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I was so happy. I felt free.
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I felt safe.
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And then we drove up to Ojai.
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We were listening
to Ray LaMontagne.
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I mean, Montage. What's his...?
LaMontagne?
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I don't know what his name is.
And she turns on that song
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where he's singing about driving
down the something highway
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there that's very famous,
along the ocean.
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* Guess I'm never gonna
get back to Ojai *
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[Jenn laughs]
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I see why people escape L.A.
to go to Ojai.
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[laughs]
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We stayed in this
beautiful home.
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As we're pulling up
to the house, there's black cars
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and she told me
that's her security.
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She's famous,
so she needs protection.
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She put in the code
and those big gates opened,
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and those big gates closed.
And it just felt like...
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I'm safe.
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I am safe.
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[idyllic music]
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Everything was new to me.
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We took pictures of us
at the pool by the house.
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We walked around
the orange grove.
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I felt like I was in some,
like, fictional,
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fairy tale movie. Like...
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But I just had never
experienced anything like that.
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***
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At some point I looked at her
and I said,
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"I think I...
I think I like you.
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I think I really like you."
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And she was like, "I really,
really like you, too."
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And then we kissed.
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[music turns dark]
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[unsettling music]
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[keyboard keys clack]
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JENN: Finch and I
were getting closer.
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She was travelling
back and forth for work.
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So, one day, Finch flew in
from California.
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I was still living
at the women's shelter.
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She told me not to worry.
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That her security
was up the street.
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So, I went out to dinner and...
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And I worked up the courage
to tell my friends
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that I had fallen in love.
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And what I got
is high-pitched screams,
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and oh, my God,
and just trust it.
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[woman speaks indistinctly]
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And Jenn, of course,
is taking video of this, like...
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JENN: Everybody just loved her.
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I think we have enough
photographic evidence
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of us tonight.
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WOMAN: The look on your face.
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KIM: I think if you just
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hear that people
are affiliated
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with Hollywood or you know,
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movie sets and all of that,
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you just want to kind of
gravitate to them.
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But I knew how happy Jenn was,
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and it was really nice
to be able to see her exhale.
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Jenn has not had
a good several years,
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and I thought she was finally
in a good spot with someone.
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JENN: I have massive
trust issues, so I need honesty,
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no matter what.
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And Finch was always telling me,
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"I'm not going anywhere.
I'm here for you."
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And how she'll always
be honest with me.
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I believed her completely.
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[soft music]
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FINCH: I am a writer
and co-exec producer
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on the show. Uh...
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I have not accepted that
this is what I do full time.
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KILEY: By season 16,
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Finch is who everybody
wants to be.
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She's one of the most
respected and trusted voices
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for the other writers,
as well as the show runner.
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It still doesn't seem real,
but that's my job.
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That's what I do all day long.
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Finch had been
sort of elevated
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to a statesman-like position.
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And she was basically
getting to decide
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which ones she wanted to write.
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My job is to come up
with the storylines,
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along with the other team
of writers.
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Things we'd like to see
our characters do.
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Things we've never done before.
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I have to write at least
a minimum of three episodes
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on my own throughout the season.
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She became the default writer
of what we call
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the standalone episodes.
And since she needed
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a lot of time off to deal
with her health,
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both mental and physical,
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she could do it
on her own schedule,
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on her own time.
And Finch got to write
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the very big episode
saying goodbye
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to one of the original
"Grey's" doctors.
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ALEX: The last thing on Earth
I wanna do is hurt you.
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But I'm leaving.
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I already left, actually.
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I'm gone.
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Alex Karev was a fan favorite.
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ALEX: I'm an okay guy.
I'm still trying.
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But I'm a really
damn good surgeon.
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And Finch was determined to...
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dig into his colorful past
as part of his sendoff.
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It almost felt like
there was an unlimited source
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of personal experiences
for Finch to unearth.
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ALEX: I got a job and a career
I love based on a lie
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that no one really cared about,
and I made it work.
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Now I live on a freaking farm
in nowhere, Kansas.
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MAYA: I had been staying
on a farm with family friends
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in Topeka, Kansas.
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Uh, and...
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that summer is when things
started getting really
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unsafe with my dad.
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I had been fully preparing
myself for a long time...
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uh...
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that my mom was gonna die
in some way.
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[unsettling music]
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My dad started texting
and posting things
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that were very erratic,
and weird, and strange,
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and scary.
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It just got worse and worse.
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[messages buzzing]
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JENN: There were very scary
posts that were very cruel.
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Posting music that was
very much about killing.
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Along with many messages
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of what his delusions are,
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what he thought about me.
Things like that.
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VAN: When I saw my dad,
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words would be coming
out of his mouth
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that would not make, like,
any sense.
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Something was clearly
going on with his mental health.
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MAYA: I was so scared
that somebody
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isn't coming out
of this situation alive.
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[music swells then fades]
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JENN: I really didn't feel safe,
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and I needed
to get out of Topeka.
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So, Finch asked me if I wanted
to be flown to L.A.
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She said, "I have to work today,
but you can relax in my office."
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About halfway, I get a call
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from the Department
of Children and Family
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who have custody of my children.
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I said, "I'm not in Topeka.
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What's going on?"
And she just came back with,
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"I can't tell you. I
need you to come
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into the office. Right now."
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I know when social workers say,
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"I can't tell you
over the phone,"
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that something really, really,
really bad has happened.
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And I seriously thought
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that Brendan had...
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that he'd killed the children.
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[music intensifies]
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So, I just started yelling,
"You have to tell me!
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You have to tell me
what happened."
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The social worker said,
"Jenn, the children are safe."
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[music stops]
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[shaky inhale]
But Brendan has taken his life.
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[tense music]
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And I... I couldn't even feel.
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I was just blank.
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I called Finch and...
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and told her that
I needed to get home.
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I need to get home now.
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When I pulled in to the studio,
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Finch came running out
the doors straight towards me.
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She's like, "Let's get inside.
It's gonna be okay.
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You're safe and we're gonna
take care of you."
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KILEY: We were all
in our offices and I saw Finch,
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with her friend,
blow into her office,
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like, grabbing things.
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There was all this like,
agitated talking,
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and I was like,
"What is going on?"
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Finch was like,
"This is Jenn
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and we just have to go
to Kansas.
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We're getting on a plane.
We're going to the airport
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right now." And then they left.
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Just felt weird,
but I assumed
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it had something to do
with like,
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Finch's cancer treatment.
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Later, I'd asked some colleagues
like, is she okay?
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Like, is she dying?
And it was like,
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"She's okay.
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Her brother's in the hospital.
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He tried to kill himself
and he's on life support."
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[thundering beat]
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[gentle music]
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This is really crazy.
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Her brother who, like,
was a doctor
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that she didn't talk to,
that supposedly abused her.
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I couldn't remember, like,
where does he live?
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Like, why are they going
to Kansas for this?
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ANDY: Soon after she left,
Finch got in contact.
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She explained her brother
had shot himself.
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The doctors said
there is some kind of surgical
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Hail Mary we could attempt.
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KILEY: Afterwards, Finch said
because of complications,
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it didn't work
and that she ended up
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pulling the plug on her brother.
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[medical machine beeping]
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[continuous beep]
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She believed that he,
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being a doctor,
injured himself in a way
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that he knew that this
could potentially happen.
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He had left some sort
of note implicating Finch
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for the reason that he did that.
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It was such a dramatic story
that it could have
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come straight out
of "Grey's Anatomy".
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And in fact, we did do
an episode many years ago
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where Meredith recalled
her mother's attempted suicide
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under very similar
circumstances.
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She was a surgeon.
She was an excellent surgeon.
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If she was really trying
to kill herself,
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she wouldn't have slit
her wrists.
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She knew better.
She would have taken
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the scalpel and cut her
carotid artery.
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I never thought,
"I don't think this is true"
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necessarily, but I did think
it can't be this much.
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But then, I sort of put
two and two together
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and assumed, like,
it's because of the abuse,
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and she confronted him about it,
and like, this is so painful
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and horrible, and like,
oh, my God,
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why is someone this evil
that they would do this
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to someone?
Especially their sister.
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It was wild and I know
it's completely out there
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and seems unbelievable,
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um, but we were so primed
to believe
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that if bad shit
is gonna happen,
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it's gonna happen to Finch.
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[unsettling music]
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MAYA: I was at school
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and one of the school
counselors walk in.
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I see this, like,
look in her eyes,
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and it's not good.
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And something in my head
is like,
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"Oh, she's here for me."
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VAN: I get pulled outta class.
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I see my sister and I think,
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"Oh no, something
really bad happened."
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[music intensifies]
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We need to tell you that
your father completed
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a suicide attempt today.
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And I was like, "Completed,
what do you mean by completed?"
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"He committed suicide."
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I just st... I just...
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I stared at the floor
for probably 20 minutes.
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I was like, numb.
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That's my dad.
He's dead and he's gone,
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and but also,
now that he's gone,
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he's no longer a threat.
We're not in danger anymore.
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The war is over.
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[music brightens]
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VAN: The day my dad
took his life,
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we were allowed to go
stay with my mom
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at the apartment that
she was staying in at the time,
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for a couple days.
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So, my mom came
and uh, picked us up.
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We got in the car
and she's like,
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"I have something to tell you."
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My mom said it was supposed
to be like, set up,
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in a way that was more
organized than this,
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but I met somebody.
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She's like,
"She's here, and-and I...
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And I want you to meet her,
but you don't have to
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if you don't want to."
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[sighs]
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And that's when I met Finch.
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JENN: Her meeting the kids
that way was very... hard.
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Didn't wanna do it like this.
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But I really needed support.
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And I was very touched
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that Finch wanted to be there
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in the worst part
of their lives.
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VAN: She was trying her best
to be respectful.
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I got along with her
relatively quickly.
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Like, three days in,
I already felt like
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I knew her for a long time.
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00:23:09,689 --> 00:23:12,225
You know, I kinda just
started opening up
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'cause I felt safe around her.
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I was just in so much shock
and I was just happy
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to be in a place that felt safe.
And I was just happy to be
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with my mom.
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We spent the rest
of the weekend together
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going to parks, and movies,
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and eating pizza and ice cream.
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Anything the kids asked for,
Finch was like,
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"Your dad just died.
Your wish is my command."
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We all slept
on the living room floor
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in a big cuddle puddle.
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I was thinking to myself, gee,
I really hope
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that this is somebody
my mom's serious about,
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because I'm gonna look back
on this day and remember it.
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And she's gonna be in the shot.
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And if she's not someone
who's gonna stick around,
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then she's just gonna be
an emotional photobomber
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00:24:00,006 --> 00:24:01,875
in this moment.
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[gentle music]
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ANDY: Finch just came back
to work and I thought,
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she's gone through so much.
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00:24:23,063 --> 00:24:26,499
You know, she's coping,
and-and she's finding a way
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00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:28,568
to make sense out of situations
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00:24:28,668 --> 00:24:30,537
that don't seem like
they often make sense.
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KILEY: She was always encouraged
to stay out
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00:24:32,872 --> 00:24:35,508
as long as she needed.
But she always liked
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00:24:35,608 --> 00:24:39,713
to come back sooner,
and really play the part
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of the hero who was making
sacrifices for work.
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I was just like this poor,
poor person.
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Long-suffering person.
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And so, when she was nominated
for the Sentinel Award
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00:24:53,526 --> 00:24:56,062
for the episode
"Silent All These Years".
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00:24:56,162 --> 00:24:57,330
Are you ready?
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It involved the wall of women
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as people wheeled
the patient down.
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And it was really beautiful.
I mean, it was so well deserved.
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KILEY: The Sentinel Awards
are designed to honor shows
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that tackle really tough issues
as Grey's Anatomy
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00:25:14,681 --> 00:25:15,782
historically has.
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00:25:15,882 --> 00:25:18,084
Then he started kissing me.
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00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:19,586
And touching me.
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00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:22,555
And I said, "No."
And continued to say no.
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00:25:22,655 --> 00:25:25,625
In the episode,
Jo had flashbacks
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00:25:25,725 --> 00:25:27,694
to meeting her mother
and learning that she
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had been conceived in rape.
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Nine months later,
I had a baby.
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I had never confronted Finch
about my story
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becoming part of that episode.
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00:25:39,973 --> 00:25:42,842
So, I tried not to make
a big deal out of it.
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JENN: At that time,
I hadn't seen the episode.
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She he had told me
don't watch it.
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00:25:49,883 --> 00:25:51,151
It's extremely triggering.
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00:25:51,251 --> 00:25:54,954
But I was so excited
for her to be recognized.
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MAYA: Finchie says like,
"Can I tell her?"
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And my mom's like,
"Sure, yeah, tell her."
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00:26:08,301 --> 00:26:11,338
She's like, "Well, uh,
I write for Grey's Anatomy."
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00:26:11,438 --> 00:26:14,541
And the teenage girl in me,
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00:26:14,641 --> 00:26:17,777
my jaw dropped
and I was like, "What?!
463
00:26:17,877 --> 00:26:22,349
You write for what show? No!"
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00:26:22,816 --> 00:26:25,552
I had seen every episode
up until that point.
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I was starstruck.
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JENN: And I was so excited
that I was going to a red carpet
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00:26:34,427 --> 00:26:35,929
event with Finch.
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00:26:36,029 --> 00:26:38,798
We were out shopping
for things for the day.
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We get all dressed up.
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I don't think I've ever been
that dressed up
471
00:26:47,007 --> 00:26:49,442
except for prom, so...
[laughs]
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00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:50,610
[crowd cheering]
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00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:51,711
[camera shutters snapping]
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When we got there,
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there was a lot
of famous people there.
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00:26:55,248 --> 00:26:56,883
Of course, I didn't
know who they were,
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00:26:56,983 --> 00:26:59,352
but there was a lot of them.
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00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:02,088
We walk into this huge ballroom
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00:27:02,188 --> 00:27:06,760
and I'm sitting next
to the main actresses
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like Camilla Luddington.
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00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:11,531
At one point, Finch had said
"girlfriend,"
482
00:27:11,631 --> 00:27:13,366
and Camilla was like,
"Girlfriend?
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00:27:13,466 --> 00:27:14,868
She's your girlfriend?"
484
00:27:14,968 --> 00:27:18,505
Here to accept the award
is co-executive producer
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and writer, Elisabeth Finch.
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00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,776
[crowd cheers]
487
00:27:22,876 --> 00:27:25,745
It was quite moving to me.
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00:27:26,146 --> 00:27:30,016
I hope everyone gets to work
in a land like Shonda's,
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where the women in our stories
are not abused, or raped,
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00:27:32,952 --> 00:27:35,755
or body dropped for sport
or a good scare,
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00:27:35,855 --> 00:27:37,991
or punishment for walking
in the world as they are.
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- [applause]
- And then at the end
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of her speech, she says...
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00:27:42,195 --> 00:27:45,231
I feel hopeful
and extremely grateful. Thank
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00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:48,835
you, especially to Jenn,
who is the bravest human I know.
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00:27:49,402 --> 00:27:51,805
[applause]
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00:27:51,905 --> 00:27:55,909
I'm like, wow, okay.
498
00:27:57,544 --> 00:28:01,748
I was very, very, very touched
that she would do that.
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00:28:01,848 --> 00:28:04,684
[tense music building]
500
00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:09,155
[inhales and exhales deeply]
501
00:28:10,023 --> 00:28:14,294
It's always nice when
our show gets acknowledged,
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00:28:14,394 --> 00:28:17,764
and I was happy for her,
503
00:28:17,864 --> 00:28:19,599
but of course,
there was a part of me
504
00:28:19,699 --> 00:28:23,837
that felt like
she had won an award
505
00:28:23,937 --> 00:28:27,974
based partly on, um,
on my story.
506
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,356
[gentle instrumental music]
507
00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:50,497
JENN: I had been away
from the kids for almost a year.
508
00:28:50,597 --> 00:28:53,366
But while we were in L.A.,
finally I got the phone call
509
00:28:53,466 --> 00:28:55,769
that the kids would be
coming home for good.
510
00:28:55,869 --> 00:28:57,971
I'm getting my kids back.
511
00:28:58,071 --> 00:28:59,673
They're gonna be home
for Thanksgiving.
512
00:28:59,773 --> 00:29:01,775
[scoffs]
513
00:29:03,343 --> 00:29:07,180
I hadn't been back to the house
since I left Brendan.
514
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,717
And the social worker needed
to do her walkthrough
515
00:29:10,817 --> 00:29:12,519
and approve.
516
00:29:13,887 --> 00:29:16,322
But when I got there...
517
00:29:18,892 --> 00:29:21,795
everything, it was destroyed.
518
00:29:21,895 --> 00:29:24,497
[somber music]
519
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:29,069
Before he had taken
his own life,
520
00:29:29,169 --> 00:29:31,304
Brendan had trashed the house.
521
00:29:31,404 --> 00:29:34,407
It was horrible.
It was absolutely...
522
00:29:34,507 --> 00:29:36,009
horrible.
523
00:29:36,109 --> 00:29:39,312
It felt like he has
control from the grave.
524
00:29:40,313 --> 00:29:43,483
I just felt Brendan everywhere.
525
00:29:44,651 --> 00:29:47,787
I wanted help. I needed help.
526
00:29:47,887 --> 00:29:51,024
[keyboard keys clacking]
527
00:29:57,130 --> 00:29:59,866
KILEY: Finch sent an email
to a bunch of the producers
528
00:29:59,966 --> 00:30:02,102
here in L.A. telling us
that this woman
529
00:30:02,202 --> 00:30:04,137
was in an abusive marriage.
530
00:30:17,450 --> 00:30:20,020
Reading that, my heart
just broke for her.
531
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,523
I mean, I can't...
You just felt sick.
532
00:30:38,471 --> 00:30:40,940
KILEY: She was saying,
if anyone has any money
533
00:30:41,041 --> 00:30:43,877
to help them get out
of this situation,
534
00:30:43,977 --> 00:30:45,311
like, send it here.
535
00:30:45,412 --> 00:30:48,381
And we all thought
it was really amazing
536
00:30:48,481 --> 00:30:52,452
of Finch to step up and help
a friend out that was in need.
537
00:30:54,454 --> 00:30:56,923
JENN: It was gonna cost
a lot of money,
538
00:30:57,023 --> 00:31:00,226
and people raised money
to make this work.
539
00:31:00,326 --> 00:31:04,431
So, I decided that...
[sighs]
540
00:31:04,531 --> 00:31:08,034
...we're gonna take it back
and we're gonna make it our own.
541
00:31:08,134 --> 00:31:10,603
[stirring emotional music]
542
00:31:10,704 --> 00:31:12,505
[tools whirring]
543
00:31:14,007 --> 00:31:17,510
Finch flew in from California
544
00:31:17,610 --> 00:31:19,212
so she could be there.
545
00:31:19,312 --> 00:31:23,383
And so many people from
the community collaborated.
546
00:31:27,854 --> 00:31:30,123
KIM: We cleaned, we painted,
547
00:31:30,223 --> 00:31:34,194
we threw away just
tons and tons of stuff.
548
00:31:34,294 --> 00:31:36,563
She just didn't want anything
that reminded her
549
00:31:36,663 --> 00:31:40,667
of what she had gone through
with Brendan.
550
00:31:43,403 --> 00:31:47,073
JENN: Everybody was just in awe
that Finch would be there
551
00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:49,876
to help clean up all this mess.
552
00:31:49,976 --> 00:31:52,312
[music fades]
553
00:31:58,651 --> 00:32:04,758
My kids came home and they
were so happy. So happy.
554
00:32:04,858 --> 00:32:08,094
VAN: It was definitely nice
coming back to my childhood home
555
00:32:08,194 --> 00:32:10,163
and seeing my family
in the context
556
00:32:10,263 --> 00:32:11,698
I'm used to seeing them in.
557
00:32:11,798 --> 00:32:14,401
JENN: Everybody couldn't wait
for Van to see the big mirrors
558
00:32:14,501 --> 00:32:15,235
in the ballet room.
559
00:32:15,335 --> 00:32:18,938
Holy cow! It's... Oh, my God!
560
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:21,207
- CHILD: Yeah.
- What?
561
00:32:21,908 --> 00:32:23,610
Yeah, this is what
I wanted to do.
562
00:32:23,710 --> 00:32:26,146
This is the greatest day
of my life, pretty much, yeah.
563
00:32:26,246 --> 00:32:28,948
Like, five minutes after
we got in, I like,
564
00:32:29,049 --> 00:32:31,584
threw my shoes off
and started doing turns.
565
00:32:31,685 --> 00:32:34,654
And my brothers were just
like, jumping around.
566
00:32:37,090 --> 00:32:40,427
[emotional instrumental music]
567
00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:47,734
JENN: Getting my kids back
was one of the best gifts
568
00:32:47,834 --> 00:32:49,803
a mother could ever receive.
569
00:32:50,503 --> 00:32:52,339
MAYA: I was just happy
to be with my mom
570
00:32:52,439 --> 00:32:54,708
and that we were all together.
571
00:32:56,609 --> 00:32:58,578
It was... it was
a really good moment.
572
00:32:58,678 --> 00:33:01,214
[music fades]
573
00:33:03,550 --> 00:33:06,753
That night, I'm sitting
on the porch and Finch is like,
574
00:33:06,853 --> 00:33:09,055
"Gee, I'm kinda sad."
575
00:33:09,155 --> 00:33:10,590
She's like,
"Well, I'm sad for you.
576
00:33:10,690 --> 00:33:12,292
You know, you're going
through a rough time.
577
00:33:12,392 --> 00:33:15,362
But I'm missing the Emmys."
578
00:33:16,696 --> 00:33:18,198
[crowd cheering]
579
00:33:18,298 --> 00:33:19,866
She said, "I was supposed
to get one,
580
00:33:19,966 --> 00:33:22,369
and I turned it down.
581
00:33:22,469 --> 00:33:24,270
It was a red carpet event
and everyone's texting
582
00:33:24,371 --> 00:33:26,573
and asking me where I am."
583
00:33:28,108 --> 00:33:30,543
And then she started crying.
584
00:33:31,578 --> 00:33:33,313
But she said,
"There's no place I'd rather be
585
00:33:33,413 --> 00:33:35,348
than here with you. But I...
586
00:33:35,448 --> 00:33:37,650
I'm supposed to be
there right now."
587
00:33:39,552 --> 00:33:43,056
And so, I made a little
funny dance video.
588
00:33:43,156 --> 00:33:45,592
I'm doing a victory
dance for you!
589
00:33:45,692 --> 00:33:47,527
[laughing]
590
00:33:48,328 --> 00:33:50,663
I was trying to just
cheer her up.
591
00:33:50,764 --> 00:33:52,732
FINCH: You're a nut
and I love you for it.
592
00:33:52,832 --> 00:33:56,036
'Cause I was just so grateful
that this person wanted to...
593
00:33:56,136 --> 00:33:58,471
be there and-and help us.
594
00:34:02,008 --> 00:34:06,413
INTERVIEWER: Okay, um... was she
ever nominated for an Emmy?
595
00:34:07,213 --> 00:34:08,948
Not to my knowledge.
596
00:34:09,049 --> 00:34:11,718
Yeah, no, no talk of an Emmy.
597
00:34:11,818 --> 00:34:13,753
Did she tell people there were?
598
00:34:13,853 --> 00:34:16,022
[curious music]
599
00:34:16,623 --> 00:34:19,459
KILEY: Finch was never
nominated for an Emmy.
600
00:34:20,393 --> 00:34:23,797
I remember the day that
the nominations came out.
601
00:34:24,364 --> 00:34:27,867
The... the vibe from Finch
was very much like...
602
00:34:27,967 --> 00:34:29,736
"I've lost something."
603
00:34:31,671 --> 00:34:33,673
This next year's going to...
I don't know
604
00:34:33,773 --> 00:34:35,875
if it's gonna be the last year
for Grey's. No one knows.
605
00:34:35,975 --> 00:34:39,045
I know this, that next year
is the last season for me.
606
00:34:39,145 --> 00:34:40,480
[sniffles]
607
00:34:40,580 --> 00:34:41,748
KILEY: Like a lot of ambitious
writers,
608
00:34:41,848 --> 00:34:46,586
especially once they reach
the co-executive producer level,
609
00:34:46,686 --> 00:34:51,758
Finch was really trying
to make her own projects happen.
610
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,763
She had told me
that she was working on a show
611
00:34:56,863 --> 00:35:00,900
with Debbie Allen,
who was our producing director.
612
00:35:01,001 --> 00:35:02,836
Kind of as a brag.
613
00:35:03,370 --> 00:35:06,473
The show was about a kid
who was a ballet dancer.
614
00:35:08,808 --> 00:35:10,210
[keys clack]
615
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:12,078
[Van grunts]
616
00:35:12,178 --> 00:35:14,280
And given Debbie's history
with dance,
617
00:35:14,381 --> 00:35:16,783
it made sense for them
to work on that together.
618
00:35:16,883 --> 00:35:21,755
Finch told me that was inspired
by one of Jenn's kids.
619
00:35:23,957 --> 00:35:25,425
It was interesting, though,
620
00:35:25,525 --> 00:35:27,394
because a big part of her humor
621
00:35:27,494 --> 00:35:29,829
was about not wanting
to be around kids.
622
00:35:29,929 --> 00:35:35,902
But Finch definitely would do
whatever it takes to get ahead.
623
00:35:36,002 --> 00:35:38,571
[music distorts eerily]
624
00:35:47,514 --> 00:35:49,516
MAYA: Day after Thanksgiving,
I was sitting downstairs
625
00:35:49,616 --> 00:35:52,285
with the boys, watching TV,
626
00:35:52,385 --> 00:35:55,221
and then I hear
this excited shriek.
627
00:35:55,321 --> 00:35:57,190
And Mom rushes downstairs
628
00:35:57,290 --> 00:35:58,591
and she's got a ring
on her finger.
629
00:35:58,692 --> 00:36:01,061
And she's like,
"She proposed! She proposed!
630
00:36:01,161 --> 00:36:03,697
We're gonna get married!"
631
00:36:04,931 --> 00:36:08,234
VAN: My initial thought
was I've only known this person
632
00:36:08,335 --> 00:36:10,804
for about four weeks now.
633
00:36:12,539 --> 00:36:14,641
I did enjoy her being around
634
00:36:14,741 --> 00:36:16,743
and I felt comfortable
and safe around her,
635
00:36:16,843 --> 00:36:18,712
and I'd started telling her
things that I would only
636
00:36:18,812 --> 00:36:19,946
tell Mom.
637
00:36:21,314 --> 00:36:24,451
It was all happening so fast.
638
00:36:25,618 --> 00:36:28,254
And now it's marriage and,
639
00:36:28,355 --> 00:36:32,926
and we're gonna be a family.
And... ah.
640
00:36:34,694 --> 00:36:37,364
JENN: Everything
was moving quickly.
641
00:36:37,464 --> 00:36:39,699
But at the time,
it was intoxicating.
642
00:36:39,799 --> 00:36:41,234
I was in love.
643
00:36:41,701 --> 00:36:44,504
VAN: Mom seemed happy,
so I was happy.
644
00:36:45,805 --> 00:36:47,574
I felt good about her
marrying my mom
645
00:36:47,674 --> 00:36:49,609
because if something happened
to my mom,
646
00:36:49,709 --> 00:36:51,544
we wouldn't end up back
in foster care,
647
00:36:51,644 --> 00:36:53,980
we'd have somebody
who was our next of kin.
648
00:37:08,395 --> 00:37:13,867
[music from the "Nutcracker"
plays]
649
00:37:20,540 --> 00:37:22,676
The Nutcracker's been
something that...
650
00:37:22,776 --> 00:37:26,680
Van has been in since he was,
I think, four.
651
00:37:28,415 --> 00:37:30,583
It's a huge, huge deal.
652
00:37:30,684 --> 00:37:33,353
And this year,
he had a really big role.
653
00:37:36,990 --> 00:37:40,860
So, I decided we're gonna
throw this big party.
654
00:37:42,696 --> 00:37:44,531
Our house was full of people.
655
00:37:44,631 --> 00:37:47,901
Everybody was having
just a really great time.
656
00:37:48,001 --> 00:37:53,239
And then later that afternoon
is when Finch got sick.
657
00:37:54,274 --> 00:37:59,379
She was complaining that she
knew she had a kidney stone
658
00:37:59,479 --> 00:38:01,348
because she'd had 'em before.
659
00:38:01,448 --> 00:38:03,950
And that's a big concern
660
00:38:04,050 --> 00:38:07,620
because she had told me she only
had one functioning kidney
661
00:38:07,721 --> 00:38:10,990
because chemotherapy
had destroyed the other.
662
00:38:11,591 --> 00:38:14,060
So, I was really
worried about her.
663
00:38:25,638 --> 00:38:27,474
KILEY: When I first started
working with Finch,
664
00:38:27,574 --> 00:38:29,943
I heard through the cloud of...
665
00:38:30,043 --> 00:38:34,314
of rumors that she lost a kidney
because of the chemo.
666
00:38:34,414 --> 00:38:36,583
And her good friend,
Anna Paquin,
667
00:38:36,683 --> 00:38:38,752
is giving her a kidney.
668
00:38:40,286 --> 00:38:42,522
I remember being like,
wow, I had no idea
669
00:38:42,622 --> 00:38:43,923
that they were that close.
670
00:38:44,024 --> 00:38:48,395
What a selfless move.
Like, this is amazing.
671
00:38:49,496 --> 00:38:52,499
MARK: But Finchie hinted
very strongly
672
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:55,435
that Anna Paquin didn't want
anyone else to know about it.
673
00:38:56,703 --> 00:38:58,338
When she went
to get her surgery,
674
00:38:58,438 --> 00:39:00,273
Finchie had a friend
675
00:39:00,373 --> 00:39:02,842
texting people at Grey's
676
00:39:02,942 --> 00:39:06,880
about how the surgery was going,
on Finchie's phone.
677
00:39:07,747 --> 00:39:10,483
We heard the actual
kidney operation
678
00:39:10,583 --> 00:39:12,752
was very touch and go,
679
00:39:12,852 --> 00:39:14,120
to the point where some
of the writers
680
00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:16,823
told me that Shonda
was crying the night that...
681
00:39:16,923 --> 00:39:21,695
of the operation, because
she felt that Finch might die.
682
00:39:27,667 --> 00:39:29,269
INTERVIEWER: Did Finch
ever tell you
683
00:39:29,369 --> 00:39:31,371
she had a kidney transplant?
684
00:39:31,471 --> 00:39:33,340
No.
[scoffs]
685
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,642
No.
[laughs]
686
00:39:35,742 --> 00:39:38,511
I didn't know anything
about a kidney transplant.
687
00:39:38,611 --> 00:39:40,680
She didn't have a scar.
688
00:39:43,683 --> 00:39:46,886
I'm a nurse.
But I'm not a nephrologist.
689
00:39:46,986 --> 00:39:52,192
And the story I got is she had
one functioning kidney.
690
00:39:53,059 --> 00:39:55,862
So, anyway, everybody
is worried about her.
691
00:39:55,962 --> 00:39:58,531
Just like, how is she?
What's going on?
692
00:39:58,631 --> 00:40:00,834
She's like, "I can do this.
It's fine."
693
00:40:00,934 --> 00:40:02,769
I was like,
"You need to be seen.
694
00:40:02,869 --> 00:40:04,671
This is serious. You're in pain.
695
00:40:04,771 --> 00:40:07,974
I'm going with you."
So, we left.
696
00:40:09,142 --> 00:40:12,345
She did not want me
to go to the hospital with her,
697
00:40:12,445 --> 00:40:14,147
but I insisted on going.
698
00:40:17,417 --> 00:40:19,285
Once we arrived
at the hospital,
699
00:40:19,386 --> 00:40:20,854
to locate her pain,
700
00:40:20,954 --> 00:40:22,956
the doctor's tapping
down her back.
701
00:40:23,056 --> 00:40:24,958
And usually, if you have
a kidney stone,
702
00:40:25,058 --> 00:40:26,926
once they get to a certain
location, you're ready to like,
703
00:40:27,027 --> 00:40:30,063
knock the lights outta
the doctor for doing that.
704
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:34,234
She's saying it hurts,
but it doesn't get
705
00:40:34,334 --> 00:40:36,069
any worse or change.
706
00:40:36,169 --> 00:40:38,872
Wow, she must have
a really high pain tolerance.
707
00:40:38,972 --> 00:40:40,473
[machine whirs]
708
00:40:40,573 --> 00:40:44,277
So, he is like, we're gonna
get you into CT scan.
709
00:40:44,878 --> 00:40:48,148
And put you
in the donut of truth.
710
00:40:51,951 --> 00:40:55,388
After the scan, it wasn't long
before the doctor came back
711
00:40:55,488 --> 00:40:57,524
and...
712
00:40:57,624 --> 00:41:02,262
he looked straight at me,
and plural,
713
00:41:02,362 --> 00:41:04,230
used the word,
"Her kidneys look fine."
714
00:41:05,799 --> 00:41:07,467
And I thought it was strange
715
00:41:07,567 --> 00:41:10,203
that he'd used
the word "kidneys".
716
00:41:10,303 --> 00:41:12,539
[tense music]
717
00:41:14,607 --> 00:41:17,110
But when you love somebody...
718
00:41:18,578 --> 00:41:19,946
you'll ignore red flags
719
00:41:20,046 --> 00:41:21,781
'til they're hittin' ya
in the head.
720
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:39,499
[gentle music]
721
00:41:40,333 --> 00:41:42,969
KILEY: We were at a table read
with the whole cast
722
00:41:43,069 --> 00:41:45,739
and somebody said like,
"Where's Finch?"
723
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:48,141
And Krista said, "Um, I guess
I can say this now,
724
00:41:48,241 --> 00:41:51,444
Finch is marrying a woman
and moving to Kansas."
725
00:41:51,544 --> 00:41:54,914
And it was like... uh.
726
00:41:57,083 --> 00:41:58,718
It was such a shock,
727
00:41:58,818 --> 00:42:00,887
but I guess when you think
you're gonna die
728
00:42:00,987 --> 00:42:02,922
at any given moment, you know,
729
00:42:03,023 --> 00:42:05,558
if you fall in love with
someone, you just go for it.
730
00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:13,533
When I found out Jenn
was getting married,
731
00:42:13,633 --> 00:42:15,001
I was happy for her.
732
00:42:15,101 --> 00:42:18,438
I was really hoping this
would be a good move for her.
733
00:42:18,538 --> 00:42:22,342
[blissful instrumental music]
734
00:42:24,110 --> 00:42:26,780
JENN: We all walked down
to the ocean
735
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,582
and then Finch was like,
"Let's just go get in!"
736
00:42:29,683 --> 00:42:31,584
[chuckles]
737
00:42:31,685 --> 00:42:33,186
[Finch and Jenn laugh]
738
00:42:33,286 --> 00:42:34,788
And so, we're in our dresses,
739
00:42:34,888 --> 00:42:37,924
and it turned out there was
a massive current.
740
00:42:39,826 --> 00:42:44,097
We all almost drowned.
[laughs]
741
00:42:48,068 --> 00:42:49,703
Didn't matter
what we'd been through.
742
00:42:49,803 --> 00:42:53,740
We both wanted to start over
and experience joy together.
743
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,409
WOMAN: Finchie, Jenn,
you just got married.
744
00:42:56,509 --> 00:42:57,711
How do you feel?
745
00:42:57,811 --> 00:42:59,479
- Amazing.
- Really bruised, and tired,
746
00:42:59,579 --> 00:43:01,114
and amazing.
[laughs]
747
00:43:01,214 --> 00:43:03,950
And Finch made me believe
that the kids were as important
748
00:43:04,050 --> 00:43:06,052
to her as I was.
749
00:43:08,488 --> 00:43:11,358
Just reassuring me, like,
"I am taking care of these kids
750
00:43:11,458 --> 00:43:13,760
for the rest of their life,
and they're my kids."
751
00:43:13,860 --> 00:43:16,629
And that felt really good.
752
00:43:18,331 --> 00:43:21,401
[eerie music]
753
00:43:26,339 --> 00:43:29,542
ANDY: It was strange for me
because one of the things
754
00:43:29,642 --> 00:43:31,011
we bonded over...
755
00:43:31,111 --> 00:43:32,412
This is gonna
make me seem great,
756
00:43:32,512 --> 00:43:35,181
is how we didn't ever
wanna have kids.
757
00:43:36,082 --> 00:43:39,019
Finch and I had this joke
that whenever it's Halloween,
758
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:41,154
the bosses would say like,
anybody who has kids can go home
759
00:43:41,254 --> 00:43:43,089
at you know,
three for trick-or-treating,
760
00:43:43,189 --> 00:43:45,425
and then we're like, "So,
we just have to stay and work?
761
00:43:45,525 --> 00:43:48,962
I guess it doesn't apply to us
'cause we're not valuable."
762
00:43:49,062 --> 00:43:51,031
And she's like,
just 'cause you had a kid,
763
00:43:51,131 --> 00:43:54,267
like we, your life is worth more
than if you didn't have a kid?
764
00:43:56,102 --> 00:43:58,772
I'd never heard her once say,
765
00:43:58,872 --> 00:44:00,073
"I sure wish I could
have a family,"
766
00:44:00,173 --> 00:44:02,342
or, "I sure wish
I could have kids."
767
00:44:02,876 --> 00:44:05,278
KILEY: When Finch moved
to Kansas,
768
00:44:05,378 --> 00:44:07,947
what was stranger
than how fast it was happening,
769
00:44:08,048 --> 00:44:12,352
the fact that they met
in like PTSD recovery,
770
00:44:12,452 --> 00:44:16,089
was that she's moving
to adopt the children.
771
00:44:18,625 --> 00:44:19,793
FINCH: Yellow? Um...
772
00:44:19,893 --> 00:44:21,227
That's not, that's...
773
00:44:21,327 --> 00:44:22,796
[laughing]
774
00:44:22,896 --> 00:44:24,931
Aw, I can't lose my half
by way of hopping!
775
00:44:25,031 --> 00:44:27,133
[children shouting happily]
776
00:44:27,233 --> 00:44:28,768
The kids loved her.
777
00:44:28,868 --> 00:44:30,270
FINCH: If there's one thing
I'm good at,
778
00:44:30,370 --> 00:44:33,039
it's making robots
out of Magna-tiles.
779
00:44:33,139 --> 00:44:35,775
- If this had gone in order...
- [Jenn laughs]
780
00:44:35,875 --> 00:44:38,745
...it would, you would be able
to guess your present.
781
00:44:38,845 --> 00:44:40,613
But how will you learn
to prey it in...
782
00:44:40,714 --> 00:44:42,082
play it in the present?
783
00:44:42,182 --> 00:44:43,817
MAYA: When Finchie moved
in our house,
784
00:44:43,917 --> 00:44:45,585
it was a really good time.
785
00:44:45,685 --> 00:44:48,054
MAYA: What is this?
[laughs]
786
00:44:48,154 --> 00:44:51,591
We were doing things together
and having a lot of fun.
787
00:44:51,691 --> 00:44:53,093
[gasps]
A ukulele!
788
00:44:53,193 --> 00:44:57,130
Yay! This is so great.
Oh my gosh.
789
00:44:57,230 --> 00:44:58,998
JENN: To celebrate
our new life,
790
00:44:59,099 --> 00:45:01,968
Maya painted seven finches
on the porch mural,
791
00:45:02,068 --> 00:45:04,237
all cuddling together.
792
00:45:04,337 --> 00:45:06,006
'Cause we were all
gonna start over.
793
00:45:06,106 --> 00:45:08,575
We were gonna be
the Finch Family.
794
00:45:08,675 --> 00:45:10,710
[Maya singing happily]
795
00:45:11,611 --> 00:45:13,713
MAYA: She very much made me
feel like she was there
796
00:45:13,813 --> 00:45:16,783
to make our lives better.
That from that day on,
797
00:45:16,883 --> 00:45:18,885
no more hard days.
798
00:45:18,985 --> 00:45:20,754
You know, we were
in love with her.
799
00:45:20,854 --> 00:45:22,422
[inhales and exhales sharply]
800
00:45:26,326 --> 00:45:27,894
REPORTER 1: We're gonna begin
here with the outbreak
801
00:45:27,994 --> 00:45:29,929
of a mystery virus in China.
802
00:45:30,030 --> 00:45:31,097
REPORTER 2: Concerns about
coronavirus
803
00:45:31,197 --> 00:45:34,034
have led to shutdowns
of places where people gather.
804
00:45:34,134 --> 00:45:36,069
REPORTER 3: Stay at home.
That is the order tonight
805
00:45:36,169 --> 00:45:37,871
from four state governors,
806
00:45:37,971 --> 00:45:40,273
as the coronavirus
pandemic spreads.
807
00:45:42,342 --> 00:45:44,678
FINCH: We're having a lot
of trouble right now,
808
00:45:44,778 --> 00:45:47,781
on an emotional level,
that we're not together.
809
00:45:47,881 --> 00:45:49,949
So, a week from now, the writers
810
00:45:50,050 --> 00:45:53,019
are going to all get together
on Zoom
811
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,588
and start planning
this next season.
812
00:45:56,523 --> 00:45:59,793
JENN: Finch decided that she
needed to work from her office
813
00:45:59,893 --> 00:46:02,295
across the alley,
right next door.
814
00:46:03,963 --> 00:46:05,865
I would make food.
815
00:46:06,633 --> 00:46:08,835
Then the kids would
run it over to her office,
816
00:46:08,935 --> 00:46:11,037
'cause she wasn't
coming home anymore.
817
00:46:11,137 --> 00:46:14,307
She was like, "I have to work.
I have to work. I have to work."
818
00:46:14,407 --> 00:46:17,544
KILEY: On Zoom, it didn't feel
like Finch was super happy.
819
00:46:19,379 --> 00:46:22,082
It seemed like she was
very tight-lipped
820
00:46:22,182 --> 00:46:24,718
when she was on those meetings.
821
00:46:25,385 --> 00:46:27,721
MAYA: I knew there was something
up with her.
822
00:46:27,821 --> 00:46:29,823
I think she was really
struggling to adapt
823
00:46:29,923 --> 00:46:33,727
to the family life.
That parenting was hard for her.
824
00:46:33,827 --> 00:46:35,895
That being a part of this
was something
825
00:46:35,995 --> 00:46:38,264
that she was struggling
to adjust to.
826
00:46:40,967 --> 00:46:42,435
JENN: I was alone a lot.
827
00:46:42,535 --> 00:46:45,138
I think homeschooling
got to my hair today.
828
00:46:45,238 --> 00:46:47,674
Homeschooling kids,
taking care of kids.
829
00:46:47,774 --> 00:46:50,443
[dark music]
830
00:46:50,844 --> 00:46:53,213
Finch was working all the time.
831
00:46:55,215 --> 00:46:58,518
MAYA: Finchie would leave
for work around 8 a.m.
832
00:46:59,352 --> 00:47:00,787
Get home at 8 p.m.
833
00:47:00,887 --> 00:47:04,924
She was never there.
And she just ignored us.
834
00:47:10,530 --> 00:47:13,566
ANDY: I started to see
that Finch's schedule
835
00:47:13,667 --> 00:47:16,302
became strange.
836
00:47:16,403 --> 00:47:20,974
She told me Jenn is in
a really rough place,
837
00:47:21,074 --> 00:47:24,177
and uh, needs some time.
838
00:47:24,277 --> 00:47:26,980
So I gotta take care
of the kids.
839
00:47:28,815 --> 00:47:31,418
[children chattering]
840
00:47:32,218 --> 00:47:34,254
If Finch needed an extension
on a deadline,
841
00:47:34,354 --> 00:47:36,990
we were happy
to accommodate her.
842
00:47:37,857 --> 00:47:40,727
KILEY: We had done it before
for Finch, countless times
843
00:47:40,827 --> 00:47:44,431
when she had to get chemo,
or she had to go into treatment.
844
00:47:44,531 --> 00:47:47,667
So, yeah, we'll write
her script on the last minute.
845
00:47:47,767 --> 00:47:49,703
Like, we'll do whatever.
846
00:47:49,803 --> 00:47:52,572
They would have to sort of
all team up,
847
00:47:52,672 --> 00:47:56,543
and you know write the episode
she was going to do.
848
00:47:57,544 --> 00:48:00,246
When you write an episode
of Grey's Anatomy,
849
00:48:00,347 --> 00:48:03,550
you might get paid say, $40,000
to write that episode.
850
00:48:03,650 --> 00:48:06,820
But for all the years
that it repeats in syndication,
851
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,156
you're going to make
another two or $300,000.
852
00:48:10,256 --> 00:48:12,325
But of course,
the money for that episode
853
00:48:12,425 --> 00:48:16,329
was going to go Finch.
It was her name on it.
854
00:48:18,331 --> 00:48:20,800
Our spouses might not
have been as happy about
855
00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:23,403
us willingly doing it, but um,
856
00:48:23,503 --> 00:48:25,372
yeah, we never
thought twice about it.
857
00:48:25,472 --> 00:48:26,940
It just seems
like Finch is family,
858
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,541
Finch needs help, let's do it.
859
00:48:30,443 --> 00:48:32,412
[music fades]
860
00:48:37,550 --> 00:48:39,853
MAYA: Towards the end
of my senior year,
861
00:48:39,953 --> 00:48:41,955
you know, the vaccines
were rolling out.
862
00:48:42,055 --> 00:48:44,391
Things were getting a lot safer.
863
00:48:45,792 --> 00:48:48,561
People were just going out
in public with masks on.
864
00:48:48,661 --> 00:48:51,431
And I was like I could...
maybe I could go back to school.
865
00:48:54,668 --> 00:48:56,770
But Finch wouldn't get
the vaccine right away.
866
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:59,372
Like, even when it rolled out
for chronically ill people.
867
00:48:59,472 --> 00:49:02,442
And she was like, "No, I just,
I don't want to right now."
868
00:49:03,543 --> 00:49:05,612
So, I was not allowed
to go to school
869
00:49:05,712 --> 00:49:09,849
and I was quarantining.
I missed my senior year. Oh.
870
00:49:10,250 --> 00:49:11,651
FINCH: Please read it out loud.
871
00:49:11,751 --> 00:49:12,886
Okay.
872
00:49:12,986 --> 00:49:15,655
I missed my friends.
I missed my teachers.
873
00:49:15,755 --> 00:49:18,458
"Maya. Happy birthday, Maya.
874
00:49:18,558 --> 00:49:20,160
You've turned 18.
875
00:49:20,260 --> 00:49:21,728
Right in the middle
of this quarantine.
876
00:49:21,828 --> 00:49:25,331
We'd throw you a party,
but it might get you sick."
877
00:49:25,432 --> 00:49:28,268
But I stayed home because
I didn't wanna kill her.
878
00:49:28,368 --> 00:49:29,769
Okay.
879
00:49:30,570 --> 00:49:35,108
And she had expressed
that "COVID will kill me."
880
00:49:35,208 --> 00:49:37,110
But at the same time,
Finch would leave for weekends
881
00:49:37,210 --> 00:49:39,913
to go write at a hotel,
'cause she needed her space.
882
00:49:40,013 --> 00:49:41,915
FINCH: I have to take
all the stuff outta here
883
00:49:42,015 --> 00:49:43,049
and I have to leave this.
884
00:49:43,149 --> 00:49:44,651
Having to be at home,
885
00:49:44,751 --> 00:49:49,723
all the time,
every single day, was hell.
886
00:49:57,263 --> 00:49:59,432
JENN: As lockdown continued,
887
00:49:59,532 --> 00:50:02,068
Finch's triggers from
the Tree of Life Synagogue
888
00:50:02,168 --> 00:50:05,438
shooting became really intense.
889
00:50:06,406 --> 00:50:09,509
If there was gunshots on the TV,
890
00:50:09,609 --> 00:50:11,544
all of us would be like,
oh, turn it down. Turn it down.
891
00:50:11,644 --> 00:50:13,680
Or turn it off,
or don't watch this,
892
00:50:13,780 --> 00:50:16,383
because it would trigger Finch.
893
00:50:19,085 --> 00:50:23,089
MAYA: She had been traumatized
because of the terrorist attack.
894
00:50:23,189 --> 00:50:26,026
[unsettling music]
895
00:50:26,793 --> 00:50:31,064
JENN: When Finch is triggered,
she goes into shutdown mode
896
00:50:31,164 --> 00:50:33,133
where she can't do anything,
897
00:50:33,233 --> 00:50:38,405
she needs to get in bed.
She's nauseated.
898
00:50:39,439 --> 00:50:42,242
She wanted a whole lot of me.
899
00:50:42,342 --> 00:50:44,611
But not the children.
900
00:50:45,045 --> 00:50:47,047
CHILD: Watch my little ears!
901
00:50:48,114 --> 00:50:51,518
MAYA: And then month to month,
there was some sort of crisis
902
00:50:51,618 --> 00:50:53,853
that she was having.
903
00:50:54,754 --> 00:50:57,624
JENN: I started noticing
a pattern for her.
904
00:50:57,724 --> 00:51:01,327
It's like, other people
are getting attention,
905
00:51:01,428 --> 00:51:03,430
so Finch is triggered.
906
00:51:03,530 --> 00:51:05,799
She needs the attention on her.
907
00:51:05,899 --> 00:51:07,567
She needs the care.
908
00:51:07,667 --> 00:51:11,237
And then I realized,
there's something going on there
909
00:51:11,338 --> 00:51:13,807
and things are not matching up.
910
00:51:13,907 --> 00:51:16,443
[rain pattering]
911
00:51:18,411 --> 00:51:21,681
So, one day,
a new trigger comes up for her
912
00:51:21,781 --> 00:51:23,917
which is rainy days.
913
00:51:24,017 --> 00:51:26,553
[siren wailing]
914
00:51:26,653 --> 00:51:28,621
And it's because she says
it was rainy
915
00:51:28,722 --> 00:51:32,125
the day she had to clean up
the bodies in Pittsburgh.
916
00:51:32,225 --> 00:51:34,894
And the rainy days
just started to trigger her.
917
00:51:34,994 --> 00:51:37,230
[thunder rumbles]
918
00:51:37,330 --> 00:51:39,699
I looked at her and I said,
"Well, that's interesting.
919
00:51:39,799 --> 00:51:43,036
You didn't have problems
with rainy days before."
920
00:51:43,903 --> 00:51:46,806
And then when she's like,
"What are you talking about?"
921
00:51:46,906 --> 00:51:50,877
And I said, "You had no problem
with rain any other time."
922
00:51:50,977 --> 00:51:53,213
[tense intensifies]
923
00:51:54,247 --> 00:51:56,616
Even when you know something,
924
00:51:56,716 --> 00:51:59,319
you still kind of hope
that you're wrong.
925
00:51:59,419 --> 00:52:02,088
I just,
I need to know the truth.
926
00:52:02,188 --> 00:52:04,157
[music fades]
927
00:52:07,027 --> 00:52:08,995
I had started looking
at her Facebook,
928
00:52:09,095 --> 00:52:10,730
Twitter, and Instagram.
929
00:52:10,830 --> 00:52:13,299
Comparing her stories
to what she's told me
930
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,135
and what she's posting online.
931
00:52:15,235 --> 00:52:17,671
[gentle foreboding music]
932
00:52:19,439 --> 00:52:22,442
I was scrolling as far
as I could scroll.
933
00:52:22,542 --> 00:52:24,644
But then, all of a sudden,
934
00:52:24,744 --> 00:52:28,548
I find there's posts
the day of the shooting.
935
00:52:29,382 --> 00:52:31,184
She's not in Pittsburgh.
936
00:52:31,284 --> 00:52:32,252
[ominous beat]
937
00:52:32,352 --> 00:52:34,654
She's at a bar.
938
00:52:36,189 --> 00:52:37,891
With her friends.
939
00:52:38,391 --> 00:52:41,194
She told me she was there.
940
00:52:43,296 --> 00:52:45,799
Things aren't
matching up at all.
941
00:52:46,166 --> 00:52:48,234
What the hell is happening?
942
00:53:21,167 --> 00:53:23,970
[keyboard keys clacking]
943
00:53:28,108 --> 00:53:32,612
I think she probably
saw her life like a TV series.
944
00:53:33,146 --> 00:53:35,548
Season one, I've got cancer.
945
00:53:35,648 --> 00:53:37,317
Everyone here in this room
is someone
946
00:53:37,417 --> 00:53:40,920
that has been instrumental
in helping me get to 40.
947
00:53:41,021 --> 00:53:43,156
ANDY: It really does a number
on your head.
948
00:53:43,256 --> 00:53:44,491
You just felt sick.
949
00:53:44,591 --> 00:53:46,860
How could I be this stupid?
Like, how did I not see it?
950
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,063
JENN: But I was terrified
that if I exposed her,
951
00:53:50,163 --> 00:53:52,565
they're gonna think
that I'm crazy.
952
00:53:53,166 --> 00:53:56,102
Because I look really crazy
and unstable right now.
953
00:53:56,202 --> 00:53:57,437
[Finch cheers]
954
00:53:57,537 --> 00:54:00,840
Essentially, she was like
an emotional terrorist.
955
00:54:03,610 --> 00:54:05,879
It's time to tell the truth.
956
00:54:05,979 --> 00:54:07,847
[tense music]
68931
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