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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,500 (radio chatter) 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,467 (distant helicopter blades beating) 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:15,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 4 00:00:16,835 --> 00:00:18,668 ROGER HARRIS: Soldiers adapt. 5 00:00:18,768 --> 00:00:20,836 You go over there with one mindset, you know, 6 00:00:20,936 --> 00:00:22,369 and then you adapt. 7 00:00:22,469 --> 00:00:24,469 You adapt to the atrocities of war. 8 00:00:24,569 --> 00:00:26,036 You adapt to... 9 00:00:28,404 --> 00:00:32,604 ...killing and dying, you know. 10 00:00:32,704 --> 00:00:34,605 After a while it doesn't bother you. 11 00:00:37,405 --> 00:00:39,271 Well, I should say it doesn't bother you as much. 12 00:00:40,771 --> 00:00:44,239 When I first arrived in Vietnam, there were some... 13 00:00:44,339 --> 00:00:45,506 (sighs) 14 00:00:45,606 --> 00:00:47,039 there were some interesting things that happened 15 00:00:47,139 --> 00:00:50,373 and I questioned some of the Marines. 16 00:00:50,473 --> 00:00:55,107 I was made to realize that this is war, and this is what we do. 17 00:00:56,708 --> 00:00:58,374 And that stuck in my head. 18 00:00:58,474 --> 00:00:59,441 This is war. 19 00:00:59,541 --> 00:01:01,641 This is what we do. 20 00:01:01,741 --> 00:01:05,475 And after a while you embrace that. 21 00:01:07,242 --> 00:01:08,975 This is war. 22 00:01:09,075 --> 00:01:10,442 This is what we do. 23 00:01:10,542 --> 00:01:13,076 ("Are You Experienced?" by the Jimi Hendrix Experience playing) 24 00:01:24,677 --> 00:01:27,712 This evening I came here to speak to you about Vietnam. 25 00:01:27,812 --> 00:01:30,778 There is progress in the war itself, 26 00:01:30,878 --> 00:01:34,179 rather dramatic progress considering the situation 27 00:01:34,279 --> 00:01:38,913 that actually prevailed when we sent our troops there in 1965. 28 00:01:39,013 --> 00:01:43,347 The grip of the Viet Cong on the people is being broken. 29 00:01:43,447 --> 00:01:48,981 HENDRIX: ♪ If you can just get your mind together ♪ 30 00:01:49,081 --> 00:01:50,048 (rapid gunfire) 31 00:01:50,148 --> 00:01:55,216 ♪ Then come across to me 32 00:01:55,316 --> 00:01:57,982 NARRATOR: In the summer of 1967, 33 00:01:58,082 --> 00:02:00,516 the men overseeing the war in Vietnam 34 00:02:00,616 --> 00:02:02,650 remained outwardly optimistic-- 35 00:02:02,750 --> 00:02:06,450 whatever private doubts they may have held. 36 00:02:06,550 --> 00:02:09,051 HENDRIX: ♪ But first 37 00:02:09,151 --> 00:02:12,018 ♪ Are you experienced? 38 00:02:12,118 --> 00:02:13,384 (airplane flying overhead) 39 00:02:13,484 --> 00:02:14,518 (explosion) 40 00:02:14,618 --> 00:02:18,652 ♪ Have you ever been experienced? ♪ 41 00:02:18,752 --> 00:02:23,052 NARRATOR: The American military command in Vietnam, MACV, 42 00:02:23,152 --> 00:02:26,620 claimed to have killed 200,000 enemy troops 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,486 and had told the president 44 00:02:28,586 --> 00:02:31,621 that the all-important "crossover point"-- 45 00:02:31,721 --> 00:02:34,921 the moment when U.S. and ARVN forces were killing 46 00:02:35,021 --> 00:02:38,088 more Viet Cong and North Vietnamese troops 47 00:02:38,188 --> 00:02:41,688 than the enemy could replace-- appeared to have been reached 48 00:02:41,788 --> 00:02:44,755 in almost all of South Vietnam. 49 00:02:44,855 --> 00:02:47,123 But the United States had suffered 50 00:02:47,223 --> 00:02:50,923 nearly 75,000 casualties. 51 00:02:51,023 --> 00:02:57,490 By July 4, 14,624 Americans had died, 52 00:02:57,590 --> 00:02:59,257 and, off the record, 53 00:02:59,357 --> 00:03:03,791 many officers were much less sanguine than their commanders. 54 00:03:03,891 --> 00:03:09,292 From Saigon, R.W. Apple of theNew York Time s summarized 55 00:03:09,392 --> 00:03:14,060 their views: "Victory is not close at hand," he wrote. 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,960 In fact, "It may be beyond reach." 57 00:03:18,060 --> 00:03:22,961 ("Are You Experienced?" by the Jimi Hendrix Experience playing) 58 00:03:26,061 --> 00:03:27,994 (rapid gunfire) 59 00:03:28,094 --> 00:03:30,529 It was true that the enemy rarely won a battle 60 00:03:30,629 --> 00:03:33,462 in the traditional military sense that they drove 61 00:03:33,562 --> 00:03:35,495 the Americans from the field. 62 00:03:35,596 --> 00:03:38,863 But it was also true that no American victory 63 00:03:38,963 --> 00:03:40,696 seemed to matter. 64 00:03:40,796 --> 00:03:46,364 Battered enemy units were quickly reinforced and rearmed. 65 00:03:46,464 --> 00:03:50,031 Pacification-- winning the hearts and minds 66 00:03:50,132 --> 00:03:53,798 of the South Vietnamese people-- was not working. 67 00:03:53,898 --> 00:03:58,199 Saigon still controlled only a fraction of a country 68 00:03:58,299 --> 00:04:00,299 roughly the size of Florida, 69 00:04:00,399 --> 00:04:02,166 and its government remained 70 00:04:02,266 --> 00:04:06,500 unpopular and riddled with corruption. 71 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,200 President Johnson had been forced to raise taxes 72 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:13,701 to meet the war's ever-climbing cost. 73 00:04:13,801 --> 00:04:17,935 His ambitious social program-- his War on Poverty-- 74 00:04:18,035 --> 00:04:20,569 was in retreat. 75 00:04:20,669 --> 00:04:25,469 HENDRIX: ♪ Trumpets and violins I can hear in the distance ♪ 76 00:04:25,569 --> 00:04:30,470 NARRATOR: That summer, racial unrest would grip American cities. 77 00:04:30,570 --> 00:04:33,971 HENDRIX: ♪ Maybe now you can't hear them ♪ 78 00:04:34,071 --> 00:04:36,004 ♪ But you will 79 00:04:36,104 --> 00:04:40,138 NARRATOR: The president would have to send the Army into Detroit 80 00:04:40,238 --> 00:04:42,439 to end five days of rioting 81 00:04:42,539 --> 00:04:46,872 that left 43 dead and hundreds of buildings razed. 82 00:04:48,106 --> 00:04:52,073 Twenty-six more died in Newark, New Jersey, 83 00:04:52,173 --> 00:04:54,773 demonstrating yet again how wide a gap 84 00:04:54,873 --> 00:04:59,407 remained between black and white Americans. 85 00:04:59,507 --> 00:05:05,308 Only a third of the country saw any sign of progress in Vietnam, 86 00:05:05,408 --> 00:05:08,442 and half of the country now disapproved 87 00:05:08,542 --> 00:05:12,809 of the president's handling of the war. 88 00:05:12,909 --> 00:05:16,043 Meanwhile, Le Duan and his comrades 89 00:05:16,143 --> 00:05:19,444 who ran things in Hanoi, were secretly planning 90 00:05:19,544 --> 00:05:24,077 a new offensive that they believed would destroy 91 00:05:24,177 --> 00:05:27,011 what they called the puppet government in Saigon 92 00:05:27,111 --> 00:05:30,878 and convince the United States the war could never be won 93 00:05:30,978 --> 00:05:33,812 on the battlefield. 94 00:05:35,679 --> 00:05:38,747 JAMES WILLBANKS: There's the old apocryphal story that, in 1967, 95 00:05:38,847 --> 00:05:40,813 they went to the basement of the Pentagon 96 00:05:40,913 --> 00:05:43,113 when the mainframe computers took up the whole basement, 97 00:05:43,213 --> 00:05:45,347 and they put on the old punch cards everything 98 00:05:45,447 --> 00:05:46,948 you could quantify-- numbers of ships, 99 00:05:47,048 --> 00:05:49,314 numbers of airplanes, numbers of tanks, numbers of helicopters, 100 00:05:49,414 --> 00:05:53,282 artillery, machine gun, ammo-- everything you could quantify, 101 00:05:53,382 --> 00:05:56,415 put it in the hopper and said, "When will we win in Vietnam?" 102 00:05:56,515 --> 00:05:58,149 Went away on Friday. 103 00:05:58,249 --> 00:06:00,182 The thing ground away all weekend. 104 00:06:00,282 --> 00:06:03,250 Came back on Monday and there was one card in the output tray 105 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:06,250 and it said, "You won in 1965." 106 00:06:06,350 --> 00:06:08,184 The only problem is the enemy gets a vote 107 00:06:08,284 --> 00:06:09,917 and they weren't on the punch cards. 108 00:06:17,785 --> 00:06:22,153 NARRATOR: There were nearly half a million American soldiers in Vietnam 109 00:06:22,253 --> 00:06:24,486 by the middle of 1967, 110 00:06:24,586 --> 00:06:27,286 with thousands more on the way. 111 00:06:27,386 --> 00:06:31,687 Only 20% would ever be in combat. 112 00:06:31,787 --> 00:06:35,287 The rest served in support units. 113 00:06:35,387 --> 00:06:38,988 None of them had been taught very much about the people 114 00:06:39,088 --> 00:06:41,921 against whom-- and for whom-- they had been asked to fight. 115 00:06:43,989 --> 00:06:46,855 Troops called the Vietnamese "gooks"-- 116 00:06:46,956 --> 00:06:50,256 a term first used by U.S. Marines to refer 117 00:06:50,355 --> 00:06:52,590 to the people of Haiti and Nicaragua 118 00:06:52,690 --> 00:06:56,290 during the American occupation of those countries, 119 00:06:56,390 --> 00:07:00,158 and then applied to the Asian enemy in Korea. 120 00:07:00,258 --> 00:07:05,224 Or "slopes," an epithet for the Japanese during the Pacific War, 121 00:07:05,324 --> 00:07:10,259 or "dinks," an Australian term for the Chinese. 122 00:07:10,359 --> 00:07:12,960 And so in basic training they taught you 123 00:07:13,060 --> 00:07:15,226 that you were going to be fighting gooks. 124 00:07:15,326 --> 00:07:18,226 It was part of the song that you sang 125 00:07:18,326 --> 00:07:20,527 as you jogged down the road. 126 00:07:20,627 --> 00:07:22,894 As you went through bayonet training, 127 00:07:22,994 --> 00:07:25,294 you were not talking about Vietnamese. 128 00:07:25,394 --> 00:07:28,695 You were always talking about gooks. 129 00:07:28,795 --> 00:07:32,295 Vietnamese might be people, but gooks are-are... 130 00:07:32,395 --> 00:07:33,795 are close to being animals. 131 00:07:33,895 --> 00:07:38,163 NARRATOR: GIs called Vietnamese homes "hooches"-- 132 00:07:38,263 --> 00:07:41,163 a corruption of the Japanese word for dwelling places 133 00:07:41,263 --> 00:07:44,530 that they had learned during the battle for Okinawa 134 00:07:44,630 --> 00:07:46,830 in the Second World War. 135 00:07:46,930 --> 00:07:52,098 Soldiers referred to older Vietnamese women as "mama sans," 136 00:07:52,198 --> 00:07:54,798 the term they used for women who ran whorehouses 137 00:07:54,898 --> 00:07:57,699 in occupied Japan. 138 00:07:57,799 --> 00:08:00,632 The Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese 139 00:08:00,732 --> 00:08:05,000 called GIs "invaders," "imperialists," 140 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:06,833 and (speaking Vietnamese)-- 141 00:08:06,933 --> 00:08:08,833 "American bandits." 142 00:08:14,034 --> 00:08:18,802 South Vietnam had been divided into four tactical zones. 143 00:08:18,902 --> 00:08:23,235 By the summer of 1967, American troops were fighting 144 00:08:23,335 --> 00:08:25,002 in all four of them. 145 00:08:27,370 --> 00:08:30,136 In IV Corps, the "Brown Water Navy" 146 00:08:30,236 --> 00:08:33,004 patrolled the rivers and canals and marshes 147 00:08:33,104 --> 00:08:36,304 of the densely populated Mekong Delta, 148 00:08:36,404 --> 00:08:39,537 searching for the enemy. 149 00:08:39,637 --> 00:08:44,272 In III Corps, the Army continued to sweep the thick jungles 150 00:08:44,372 --> 00:08:47,839 of the Iron Triangle, the Viet Cong sanctuary 151 00:08:47,939 --> 00:08:51,506 near Saigon that was supposed to have been permanently denied 152 00:08:51,606 --> 00:08:57,040 to the enemy by big American operations earlier in the year. 153 00:08:57,140 --> 00:09:00,307 In II Corps, a series of bloody battles 154 00:09:00,407 --> 00:09:05,041 in the Central Highlands around Dak To temporarily drove 155 00:09:05,141 --> 00:09:10,276 North Vietnamese troops back into Cambodia and Laos. 156 00:09:10,376 --> 00:09:14,909 But some of the most intense combat would take place 157 00:09:15,009 --> 00:09:19,377 in I Corps-- made up of the five northernmost provinces 158 00:09:19,477 --> 00:09:22,510 of South Vietnam-- where the Marines would bear 159 00:09:22,610 --> 00:09:24,944 the brunt of the fighting. 160 00:09:25,044 --> 00:09:28,344 More than two-and-a-half million people lived there, 161 00:09:28,444 --> 00:09:30,579 all but 2% of them within 162 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,979 the narrow rice-growing river valleys 163 00:09:33,079 --> 00:09:35,779 along the South China Sea. 164 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:39,646 The Marines wanted to eradicate the Viet Cong there, 165 00:09:39,746 --> 00:09:42,046 and provide security to the people, 166 00:09:42,146 --> 00:09:45,014 village by village, hamlet by hamlet. 167 00:09:45,114 --> 00:09:48,781 The vast, largely empty highlands that stretched 168 00:09:48,881 --> 00:09:52,115 westward all the way to Laos, the Marines argued, 169 00:09:52,215 --> 00:09:54,982 could be left to the enemy. 170 00:09:55,082 --> 00:09:57,582 "The real war is among the people," 171 00:09:57,682 --> 00:10:00,549 said Marine lieutenant general Victor Krulak, 172 00:10:00,649 --> 00:10:03,283 "and not among the mountains." 173 00:10:03,383 --> 00:10:05,783 But General William Westmoreland, 174 00:10:05,883 --> 00:10:08,884 the American commander, feared that thousands 175 00:10:08,984 --> 00:10:12,784 of North Vietnamese Army regulars-- the NVA-- 176 00:10:12,884 --> 00:10:17,085 were planning to seize the two northernmost provinces. 177 00:10:17,185 --> 00:10:22,352 Finding and destroying them remained his first goal. 178 00:10:22,452 --> 00:10:24,019 (helicopter blades beating) 179 00:10:24,119 --> 00:10:26,919 He insisted the Third Marine Division 180 00:10:27,019 --> 00:10:29,253 move north to meet that challenge, 181 00:10:29,353 --> 00:10:34,753 establish a base at Dong Ha and man strongpoints at Gio Linh, 182 00:10:34,853 --> 00:10:42,254 Con Thien, Cam Lo, Camp Carroll, the Rockpile and Khe Sanh. 183 00:10:42,354 --> 00:10:45,955 Khe Sanh overlooked Route 9, the East-West highway 184 00:10:46,055 --> 00:10:49,689 that Westmoreland hoped would one day carry American troops 185 00:10:49,789 --> 00:10:53,790 across the border into Laos, where North Vietnamese men 186 00:10:53,890 --> 00:10:57,724 and supplies were streaming south on the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 187 00:11:01,124 --> 00:11:04,124 But the thousands of Marines monitoring the border 188 00:11:04,224 --> 00:11:07,325 would find themselves within range of highly accurate 189 00:11:07,425 --> 00:11:11,058 North Vietnamese artillery and rocket launchers 190 00:11:11,158 --> 00:11:13,026 hidden within the DMZ. 191 00:11:13,126 --> 00:11:14,893 ("I'm a Man" by The Spencer Davis Group playing" 192 00:11:14,993 --> 00:11:20,127 (explosions) 193 00:11:22,060 --> 00:11:22,960 JOHN LAURENCE: Tell me... 194 00:11:23,060 --> 00:11:24,094 You came here at full strength? 195 00:11:24,194 --> 00:11:25,860 I had 13 men when I came. 196 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,528 And it's four days later now and how many are still here? 197 00:11:28,628 --> 00:11:29,528 Six. 198 00:11:29,628 --> 00:11:33,061 ("I'm a Man" continues) 199 00:11:34,929 --> 00:11:38,629 The rifles have been jamming, the mud's been... 200 00:11:38,729 --> 00:11:40,229 it slowed everything down. 201 00:11:40,329 --> 00:11:41,863 And the artillery comes in everywhere. 202 00:11:41,963 --> 00:11:44,397 And, ah, it just gets pretty futile 203 00:11:44,497 --> 00:11:45,763 and frustrating sometimes. 204 00:11:45,863 --> 00:11:47,863 ("I'm a Man" continues) 205 00:11:49,864 --> 00:11:52,631 I can't say that I'm scared stiff, but I'm scared. 206 00:11:52,731 --> 00:11:55,832 I mean, after a while, you know it's going to come. 207 00:11:55,932 --> 00:11:57,232 And you can't do nothing about it. 208 00:11:57,332 --> 00:11:58,632 And you just look to God. 209 00:11:58,732 --> 00:12:00,365 SPENCER DAVIS GROUP: ♪ Well, my pad is very messy 210 00:12:00,465 --> 00:12:02,065 ♪ And there's whiskers on my chin. ♪ 211 00:12:02,165 --> 00:12:05,133 NARRATOR: Private First Class John Musgrave 212 00:12:05,233 --> 00:12:07,900 of Fairmount, Missouri, who had volunteered to join 213 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,801 the 3rd Marine Division, 214 00:12:09,901 --> 00:12:13,801 was sent to the battle-scarred countryside around Con Thien, 215 00:12:13,901 --> 00:12:17,302 a few kilometers south of the DMZ. 216 00:12:17,402 --> 00:12:19,935 (explosion) 217 00:12:20,035 --> 00:12:23,702 JOHN MUSGRAVE: For the Marines in northern I Corps in the 3rd Marine Division 218 00:12:23,802 --> 00:12:27,436 in the spring and summer of 1967 we called the DMZ 219 00:12:27,536 --> 00:12:28,969 the "Dead Marine Zone." 220 00:12:29,069 --> 00:12:32,870 NARRATOR: Musgrave's 1st Battalion had already suffered 221 00:12:32,970 --> 00:12:36,504 so many casualties in a series of bloody sweeps 222 00:12:36,604 --> 00:12:40,238 that it was believed to be a hard-luck outfit. 223 00:12:40,338 --> 00:12:43,805 They were called the "Walking Dead." 224 00:12:43,905 --> 00:12:46,806 SPENCER DAVIS GROUP: ♪ I'm a man, yes I am, and I can't... ♪ 225 00:12:46,906 --> 00:12:50,606 MUSGRAVE: I joined the Marine Corps to be in the varsity. 226 00:12:50,706 --> 00:12:54,173 And I felt like I wasn't varsity unless I was up north 227 00:12:54,273 --> 00:12:55,573 fighting the NVA. 228 00:12:55,673 --> 00:12:58,807 I have never regretted that decision. 229 00:12:58,907 --> 00:13:03,308 There were times when we were under artillery fire, 230 00:13:03,408 --> 00:13:06,974 where I thought, you know, "What-what were you thinking?" 231 00:13:07,074 --> 00:13:12,775 Here it is in a nutshell: if I lived to be 63 years old, 232 00:13:12,875 --> 00:13:14,976 I didn't want to look in the mirror some morning 233 00:13:15,076 --> 00:13:17,443 and have a guy looking back at me that hadn't done everything 234 00:13:17,543 --> 00:13:19,343 for what he believed, 235 00:13:19,443 --> 00:13:23,211 that let somebody else do the harder part. 236 00:13:27,911 --> 00:13:30,878 Every major contact I remember with the NVA was initiated 237 00:13:30,978 --> 00:13:32,512 by them ambushing us. 238 00:13:32,612 --> 00:13:35,945 They wouldn't hit us unless they outnumbered us. 239 00:13:36,045 --> 00:13:37,946 And we were fighting in their yard. 240 00:13:40,946 --> 00:13:42,279 They knew the ground; we didn't. 241 00:13:46,114 --> 00:13:48,047 They were just really good. 242 00:13:58,382 --> 00:14:00,349 LE VAN CHO: 243 00:14:06,750 --> 00:14:09,683 NARRATOR: The North Vietnamese carried Soviet-made, 244 00:14:09,783 --> 00:14:12,751 seemingly indestructible AK-47s. 245 00:14:14,151 --> 00:14:19,051 The Marines had to fight with newly issued M-16 rifles 246 00:14:19,151 --> 00:14:23,352 that had for a time a potentially fatal design flaw: 247 00:14:23,452 --> 00:14:26,185 they needed constant cleaning 248 00:14:26,285 --> 00:14:29,420 and often jammed in the middle of firefights. 249 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,586 MUSGRAVE: Their rifles worked; ours didn't. 250 00:14:32,686 --> 00:14:36,087 The M-16 was a piece of shit. 251 00:14:36,187 --> 00:14:37,787 You can't throw your bullets at the enemy 252 00:14:37,887 --> 00:14:39,187 and have them be effective. 253 00:14:39,287 --> 00:14:43,722 And that rifle malfunctioned on us repeatedly. 254 00:14:49,823 --> 00:14:52,723 (gunfire) 255 00:14:55,789 --> 00:14:58,257 HO HUU LAN: 256 00:15:09,358 --> 00:15:12,459 My hatred for them was pure. 257 00:15:12,559 --> 00:15:14,159 Pure. 258 00:15:14,259 --> 00:15:16,159 I hated them so much. 259 00:15:17,492 --> 00:15:18,860 And I was so scared of them. 260 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,260 Boy, I was terrified of them. 261 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,693 And the scareder I got, the more I hated them. 262 00:15:51,631 --> 00:15:54,932 MUSGRAVE: I only killed one human being in Vietnam. 263 00:15:55,032 --> 00:15:58,298 And that was the first man that I ever killed. 264 00:15:58,398 --> 00:16:02,433 And I was sick with guilt about killing that guy 265 00:16:02,533 --> 00:16:04,566 and thinking I'm going to have to do this 266 00:16:04,666 --> 00:16:05,833 for the next 13 months. 267 00:16:05,933 --> 00:16:08,399 I'm-I'm going to go crazy. 268 00:16:08,499 --> 00:16:11,300 And I saw a Marine step on a bouncing Betty mine, 269 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,600 and that's when I made my deal with the devil 270 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:18,435 and that I said, "I will never kill another human being 271 00:16:18,535 --> 00:16:20,768 "as long as I'm in Vietnam. 272 00:16:20,868 --> 00:16:25,969 "However, I will waste as many gooks as I can find. 273 00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:29,436 "I'll wax as many dinks as I can find. 274 00:16:29,536 --> 00:16:32,570 "I'll smoke as many zips as I can find. 275 00:16:32,670 --> 00:16:35,737 But I ain't gonna kill anybody," you know? 276 00:16:35,837 --> 00:16:39,171 Turn the subject into an object. 277 00:16:39,271 --> 00:16:41,271 It's Racism 101. 278 00:16:41,371 --> 00:16:43,471 It turns out to be a very necessary tool 279 00:16:43,571 --> 00:16:46,139 when you have children fighting your wars, 280 00:16:46,239 --> 00:16:48,972 for them to stay sane doing their work. 281 00:16:55,373 --> 00:16:57,940 NARRATOR: On one early patrol, Musgrave watched 282 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,707 an American fighter swoop down to drop napalm on enemy troops 283 00:17:02,807 --> 00:17:05,141 hidden behind a hedgerow. 284 00:17:05,241 --> 00:17:08,942 He could hear their AK-47s firing at the plane 285 00:17:09,042 --> 00:17:12,708 until the instant they were engulfed in flames. 286 00:17:12,808 --> 00:17:16,543 "If the enemy is willing to die like that," he thought, 287 00:17:16,643 --> 00:17:19,543 "this is going to be one very long war." 288 00:17:22,044 --> 00:17:24,277 MUSGRAVE: They knew if they would pop the ambush close 289 00:17:24,377 --> 00:17:25,977 and then get amongst you, 290 00:17:26,077 --> 00:17:29,611 we couldn't or would hesitate to call in air on ourselves. 291 00:17:32,711 --> 00:17:36,879 So that... firefights like that we called brawls. 292 00:17:36,979 --> 00:17:38,846 They were very intimate. 293 00:17:38,946 --> 00:17:40,446 And they were very deadly. 294 00:17:40,546 --> 00:17:43,380 And they were absolutely terrifying. 295 00:17:47,413 --> 00:17:51,614 NARRATOR: The Marines were spread too thin to hold any of the territory 296 00:17:51,714 --> 00:17:54,181 they fought so hard to take. 297 00:17:54,281 --> 00:17:58,782 Again and again, they were sent out from one stronghold 298 00:17:58,882 --> 00:18:02,982 or another along the DMZ, looking for enemy soldiers. 299 00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:06,716 MUSGRAVE: The disillusionment for me began when I was going back 300 00:18:06,816 --> 00:18:09,883 to fight at places we'd already fought before. 301 00:18:09,983 --> 00:18:13,517 We had fought, captured, and then left 302 00:18:13,617 --> 00:18:15,684 and the NVA came right back. 303 00:18:15,784 --> 00:18:17,951 You don't like getting wounded 304 00:18:18,051 --> 00:18:19,785 in places you've already been before. 305 00:18:22,052 --> 00:18:24,385 War is a real estate business. 306 00:18:24,485 --> 00:18:27,353 We're supposed to take real estate away from the enemy 307 00:18:27,453 --> 00:18:31,319 and then deny the enemy access to that real estate. 308 00:18:31,419 --> 00:18:37,620 NARRATOR: On the morning of July 2, 1967, the 1st Battalion launched 309 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,021 yet another sweep of the area northeast of Con Thien. 310 00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:45,888 When they reached a crossroads called "The Marketplace," 311 00:18:45,988 --> 00:18:50,356 barely a mile and quarter from their base, they were ambushed. 312 00:18:50,456 --> 00:18:53,856 One company was virtually annihilated. 313 00:18:57,523 --> 00:19:02,391 John Musgrave's company rushed to rescue the survivors, 314 00:19:02,491 --> 00:19:05,391 only to be pinned down there as well. 315 00:19:08,158 --> 00:19:12,992 It was one of the worst days the Marine Corps endured in Vietnam: 316 00:19:13,092 --> 00:19:19,293 53 dead and 190 wounded were carried off the battlefield. 317 00:19:19,393 --> 00:19:23,460 Thirty-four more dead had to be left behind, 318 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,294 and when Marines fought their way back two days later 319 00:19:27,394 --> 00:19:30,227 to retrieve their bodies, they found that a number 320 00:19:30,327 --> 00:19:36,395 had died because their M-16s had jammed as the enemy closed in. 321 00:19:36,495 --> 00:19:39,696 Many had been executed, shot in the face 322 00:19:39,796 --> 00:19:42,596 or back of the head at close range. 323 00:19:42,696 --> 00:19:45,629 Some bodies had been booby-trapped, 324 00:19:45,729 --> 00:19:48,597 others mutilated. 325 00:19:48,697 --> 00:19:51,930 MUSGRAVE: Marine amphibious force headquarters 326 00:19:52,030 --> 00:19:55,798 was so desperate to get North Vietnamese prisoners, 327 00:19:55,898 --> 00:19:59,098 that they offered us three day in-country R&R 328 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:01,299 if we'd bring a prisoner in. 329 00:20:01,399 --> 00:20:02,766 Yeah, good luck. 330 00:20:02,866 --> 00:20:04,266 You know? 331 00:20:04,366 --> 00:20:06,666 Don't you know who... what we're doing up here? 332 00:20:06,766 --> 00:20:08,467 Do you know who we're fighting? 333 00:20:10,233 --> 00:20:12,833 I want to make this clear, we did not torture prisoners 334 00:20:12,933 --> 00:20:15,834 and we did not mutilate them. 335 00:20:22,302 --> 00:20:25,869 But to be a prisoner you had to make it to the rear, you know. 336 00:20:25,969 --> 00:20:29,303 If he was with... fell into our hands 337 00:20:29,403 --> 00:20:31,303 he was just one sorry fucker. 338 00:20:42,104 --> 00:20:44,438 I don't know how to explain it that it would make sense. 339 00:20:46,038 --> 00:20:49,338 ("Green Onions" by Booker T. & the M.G.s playing) 340 00:20:52,539 --> 00:20:53,673 HARRIS: Roxbury, where I grew up, 341 00:20:53,773 --> 00:20:55,506 was the African-American neighborhood, 342 00:20:55,606 --> 00:20:59,440 and South Boston was the Irish-Catholic bastion. 343 00:20:59,540 --> 00:21:01,340 You know, there was a lot of hate. 344 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,074 South Boston folks hated us, we hated them. 345 00:21:05,174 --> 00:21:06,441 And ironically, um... 346 00:21:06,541 --> 00:21:09,008 (sighs) 347 00:21:09,108 --> 00:21:10,841 You know, you end up in a war. 348 00:21:12,676 --> 00:21:14,909 And the Vietnamese didn't care 349 00:21:15,009 --> 00:21:16,742 whether you were from Roxbury or South Boston. 350 00:21:16,842 --> 00:21:18,842 They saw you as American. 351 00:21:18,942 --> 00:21:22,177 And they wanted to kill you because you're American. 352 00:21:22,277 --> 00:21:26,577 NARRATOR: Private Roger Harris had joined the Marines in part, he said, 353 00:21:26,677 --> 00:21:29,044 because he wanted to be "a gladiator," 354 00:21:29,144 --> 00:21:32,278 a killer of his country's enemies. 355 00:21:32,378 --> 00:21:35,612 On July 28, two weeks after 356 00:21:35,712 --> 00:21:39,779 John Musgrave's badly mangled 1st Battalion was pulled back 357 00:21:39,879 --> 00:21:41,613 to rest and recover, 358 00:21:41,713 --> 00:21:45,746 Roger Harris and the 2nd Battalion moved out of Con Thien 359 00:21:45,846 --> 00:21:49,614 and into the southern half of the Demilitarized Zone itself. 360 00:21:51,781 --> 00:21:53,314 HARRIS: We wanted the North Vietnamese Army 361 00:21:53,414 --> 00:21:55,747 to expose themselves. 362 00:21:55,847 --> 00:21:58,782 So, basically, you put the bait out there, 363 00:21:58,882 --> 00:22:03,215 and then we could call in and rain hell on them. 364 00:22:03,316 --> 00:22:07,649 NARRATOR: Roger Harris's battalion advanced into the DMZ 365 00:22:07,749 --> 00:22:12,250 along a rough cart track that led to the Ben Hai River. 366 00:22:12,350 --> 00:22:16,584 But planners had failed to see that a concrete bridge 367 00:22:16,684 --> 00:22:18,585 over an impassable stream 368 00:22:18,685 --> 00:22:23,085 was too narrow and too weak to carry armored vehicles. 369 00:22:23,185 --> 00:22:27,952 Now the Marines had no choice but to violate a cardinal rule 370 00:22:28,052 --> 00:22:29,586 of infantry tactics-- 371 00:22:29,686 --> 00:22:34,720 turn around and try to go back the way they had come. 372 00:22:34,820 --> 00:22:37,953 The enemy was waiting. 373 00:22:38,053 --> 00:22:40,754 (explosion, rapid gunfire) 374 00:22:44,021 --> 00:22:46,855 Massive ambushes and... 375 00:22:46,955 --> 00:22:48,422 (gunfire, shouting) 376 00:22:48,522 --> 00:22:52,489 ...and, um, a lot of death. 377 00:22:52,589 --> 00:22:54,490 And... 378 00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:57,656 ...craziness. 379 00:22:57,756 --> 00:23:02,657 NARRATOR: The Marines were forced to run a bloody gauntlet of mortars, 380 00:23:02,757 --> 00:23:06,591 machine gun fire and rocket-propelled grenades. 381 00:23:06,691 --> 00:23:11,392 HARRIS: I had the utmost respect for the North Vietnamese Army soldiers. 382 00:23:11,492 --> 00:23:17,759 When you see someone jump out and confront a tank, you know, 383 00:23:17,859 --> 00:23:19,993 with a big 50-caliber machine gun on it 384 00:23:20,093 --> 00:23:23,027 and a 90-millimeter cannon on it, 385 00:23:23,127 --> 00:23:27,327 and an individual takes on the tank, 386 00:23:27,427 --> 00:23:29,060 I think that says something. 387 00:23:30,695 --> 00:23:33,495 NARRATOR: Roger Harris's company held up the rear, 388 00:23:33,595 --> 00:23:37,462 hounded by enemy soldiers on all sides. 389 00:23:39,762 --> 00:23:43,062 The Marines staggered back out of the DMZ 390 00:23:43,162 --> 00:23:46,263 alongside the battered armored vehicles 391 00:23:46,363 --> 00:23:50,163 heaped with dead and wounded Americans. 392 00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:53,164 The battalion suffered 214 casualties. 393 00:23:56,298 --> 00:23:59,765 HARRIS: Wasn't a good day for Marines at all. 394 00:23:59,865 --> 00:24:01,132 A lot of people died. 395 00:24:01,232 --> 00:24:02,432 People got their legs shot off. 396 00:24:02,532 --> 00:24:04,432 People got run over by tanks. 397 00:24:07,066 --> 00:24:09,966 I don't want to talk about it because it's... 398 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,701 it's not a good day, wasn't a good day. 399 00:24:23,302 --> 00:24:25,202 LO KHAC TAM: 400 00:25:24,510 --> 00:25:27,877 This is "bau cu", the day of voting in Vietnam, 401 00:25:27,977 --> 00:25:30,877 and it's a solemn day in the village of Hung Thao Phu 402 00:25:30,977 --> 00:25:33,612 and in other villages throughout the country. 403 00:25:33,712 --> 00:25:36,178 And these people have dressed up in their Sunday best for it. 404 00:25:39,045 --> 00:25:42,046 NARRATOR: South Vietnamese prime minister Nguyen Cao Ky 405 00:25:42,146 --> 00:25:46,046 had crushed his Buddhist opponents in 1966, 406 00:25:46,146 --> 00:25:48,547 but he had been forced by the Americans 407 00:25:48,647 --> 00:25:51,980 and his political rivals to make at least tentative moves 408 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,748 toward democracy-- election of a national assembly, 409 00:25:55,848 --> 00:25:59,015 a new constitution, and a promise of elections 410 00:25:59,115 --> 00:26:02,316 for president and vice president. 411 00:26:02,416 --> 00:26:07,216 But when Ky's old adversary Nguyen Van Thieu declared 412 00:26:07,316 --> 00:26:10,117 he wanted to challenge Ky for the top spot, 413 00:26:10,217 --> 00:26:13,383 things in Saigon had threatened to come apart again. 414 00:26:15,817 --> 00:26:18,384 PHAN QUANG TUE: We were watching the rivalry between Thieu and Ky. 415 00:26:18,484 --> 00:26:20,551 And that was a game. 416 00:26:20,651 --> 00:26:23,551 In Vietnam, the country was watching like a... 417 00:26:23,651 --> 00:26:26,419 we were watch... watching a movie. 418 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:28,719 And Thieu and Ky was watching as to, 419 00:26:28,819 --> 00:26:31,620 not whoever had the support of the people, 420 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,053 but who had the support of the Americans and the White House. 421 00:26:36,153 --> 00:26:39,487 NARRATOR: Ellsworth Bunker, the American ambassador, 422 00:26:39,587 --> 00:26:43,054 called both men to his residence and warned that 423 00:26:43,154 --> 00:26:46,922 the United States would not tolerate another power struggle: 424 00:26:47,022 --> 00:26:50,588 Thieu and Ky needed to meet with their fellow generals 425 00:26:50,688 --> 00:26:53,189 and decide who would run for president 426 00:26:53,289 --> 00:26:55,823 and who would be his running mate. 427 00:26:55,923 --> 00:26:58,356 Thieu emerged on top. 428 00:26:58,456 --> 00:27:01,424 He was unassuming and unflappable, 429 00:27:01,524 --> 00:27:04,090 interested largely in accumulating power 430 00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:07,324 and personal wealth and was thought unlikely 431 00:27:07,425 --> 00:27:10,158 ever to embarrass Washington. 432 00:27:10,258 --> 00:27:13,725 Ky would be his vice president. 433 00:27:13,825 --> 00:27:18,792 Together, they won with only 35% of the vote. 434 00:27:18,892 --> 00:27:21,993 No one who had called for an end to the war 435 00:27:22,093 --> 00:27:24,327 had been allowed to run. 436 00:27:24,427 --> 00:27:26,960 Many Buddhists had boycotted the election, 437 00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:32,161 and Viet Cong intimidation had kept many more from the polls. 438 00:27:32,261 --> 00:27:35,228 But the State Department immediately declared 439 00:27:35,328 --> 00:27:38,229 the election an important "step forward." 440 00:27:40,129 --> 00:27:43,562 Some South Vietnamese did believe that a measure 441 00:27:43,663 --> 00:27:46,796 of stability had finally been achieved. 442 00:27:46,896 --> 00:27:49,930 Others were not so sure. 443 00:27:51,497 --> 00:27:55,731 TUE: In terms of corruption, yes, they were corrupt. 444 00:27:55,831 --> 00:28:00,498 Both Thieu and Ky, they abused their position. 445 00:28:00,598 --> 00:28:04,465 We pay a very high price for having leaders 446 00:28:04,565 --> 00:28:07,233 like a Ky and Thieu. 447 00:28:07,333 --> 00:28:09,733 And we continue to pay the price. 448 00:28:11,499 --> 00:28:14,967 ("Soul Dressing" by Booker T. & The M.G.s playing) 449 00:28:15,067 --> 00:28:17,900 EVA JEFFERSON PATERSON: My father was in the United States Army. 450 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,635 And then when the Air Force came about he switched over 451 00:28:20,735 --> 00:28:23,068 to the Air Force. 452 00:28:23,168 --> 00:28:27,969 I grew up out of the country in desegregated settings. 453 00:28:28,069 --> 00:28:30,936 I was usually the only little black girl in the class. 454 00:28:31,036 --> 00:28:33,036 If you look at my class pictures I look 455 00:28:33,136 --> 00:28:36,737 like the little chocolate chip in the vanilla ice cream. 456 00:28:36,837 --> 00:28:39,737 I was always a good student. 457 00:28:39,837 --> 00:28:42,571 I remember people saying, "Oh, you speak so well." 458 00:28:42,671 --> 00:28:44,538 And the unstated part is "for a black girl," 459 00:28:44,638 --> 00:28:47,338 probably a Negro girl or colored girl, at that point. 460 00:28:47,438 --> 00:28:52,072 NARRATOR: Eva Jefferson's father had served a year on airbases 461 00:28:52,172 --> 00:28:55,772 in Vietnam and returned home convinced the United States 462 00:28:55,872 --> 00:28:58,406 had no business being there. 463 00:28:58,506 --> 00:29:02,106 But when his daughter entered Northwestern University 464 00:29:02,206 --> 00:29:07,274 in the Chicago suburb of Evanston in September 1967, 465 00:29:07,374 --> 00:29:11,675 the war was not uppermost in students' minds. 466 00:29:11,775 --> 00:29:15,075 PATERSON: The war was not really an issue. 467 00:29:15,175 --> 00:29:17,008 It's like, "Well, no, the president has 468 00:29:17,108 --> 00:29:19,076 "our best interests at heart. 469 00:29:19,176 --> 00:29:20,976 "He, of course, would only prosecute a war 470 00:29:21,076 --> 00:29:22,443 that made sense." 471 00:29:22,543 --> 00:29:25,310 And I think most of America felt that way. 472 00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:27,377 ("Strange Brew" by Cream playing) 473 00:29:27,477 --> 00:29:29,510 NARRATOR: At the University of Nebraska, 474 00:29:29,610 --> 00:29:32,545 Jack Todd also supported the war. 475 00:29:32,645 --> 00:29:37,011 He had felt so strongly about it in 1966 that he had signed up 476 00:29:37,111 --> 00:29:40,079 for Marine officer training. 477 00:29:40,179 --> 00:29:42,779 I went into the Marine Corps 478 00:29:42,879 --> 00:29:45,179 thinking this was all I wanted to do. 479 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:47,213 I mean my... my goal was to be commander, 480 00:29:47,313 --> 00:29:48,613 a platoon commander in Vietnam. 481 00:29:50,147 --> 00:29:53,480 NARRATOR: But as time went by and the war went on, 482 00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:55,948 Todd and many of his fellow students 483 00:29:56,048 --> 00:29:57,714 began to change their minds. 484 00:29:59,048 --> 00:30:01,482 TODD: All young people go through changes. 485 00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:04,415 But we were going through astronomical changes 486 00:30:04,515 --> 00:30:06,749 at such a rapid rate. 487 00:30:08,650 --> 00:30:12,316 All the music, the culture, everything that we listened to, 488 00:30:12,416 --> 00:30:14,516 everything that we thought was transforming 489 00:30:14,616 --> 00:30:18,417 and the core of it all was Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam. 490 00:30:18,517 --> 00:30:20,351 It just kept going in the background. 491 00:30:20,451 --> 00:30:22,151 First, it was kind of like a background noise 492 00:30:22,251 --> 00:30:24,118 and then it got to be the elephant in the room. 493 00:30:24,218 --> 00:30:26,185 And then it was the elephant sitting on your head 494 00:30:26,285 --> 00:30:27,918 and we... we couldn't escape this. 495 00:30:28,018 --> 00:30:31,353 NARRATOR: Todd attended officer training school 496 00:30:31,453 --> 00:30:34,153 at Camp Upshur in Quantico, Virginia. 497 00:30:34,253 --> 00:30:37,153 But doubts about the war followed him there, too. 498 00:30:40,220 --> 00:30:41,987 TODD: I guess the emotional things that were happening 499 00:30:42,087 --> 00:30:44,587 on the ground, the photographs that we saw, the news images, 500 00:30:44,688 --> 00:30:47,655 and the fact that there was no discernible progress, 501 00:30:47,755 --> 00:30:51,088 that really started to eat away at what we thought. 502 00:30:51,188 --> 00:30:54,289 In the summer of '67, I was at Camp Upshur, you know, 503 00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:56,789 wanting to go kill Vietnamese people. 504 00:30:56,889 --> 00:31:01,257 And in October, I was completely against the war. 505 00:31:04,557 --> 00:31:07,124 JOHNSON: Westmoreland came in last night to me... 506 00:31:07,224 --> 00:31:11,258 And he says that he has concentrated more firepower 507 00:31:11,358 --> 00:31:14,925 and bombing in the last week on the DMZ 508 00:31:15,025 --> 00:31:18,859 and they've concentrated more on us than has ever been 509 00:31:18,959 --> 00:31:21,060 concentrated in any equivalent period 510 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,693 in the history of warfare... 511 00:31:22,793 --> 00:31:23,960 EVERETT DIRKSEN: Yeah. 512 00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:25,226 JOHNSON: ...much more than was ever poured on 513 00:31:25,326 --> 00:31:26,660 Berlin or Tokyo, 514 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,161 and that his only defense of the DMZ to stop 515 00:31:31,261 --> 00:31:34,161 this aggression up there with the North Vietnamese 516 00:31:34,261 --> 00:31:37,928 trying to come in is bombing their gun positions. 517 00:31:38,028 --> 00:31:39,495 DIRKSEN: Yeah. 518 00:31:39,595 --> 00:31:41,395 JOHNSON: And it would just be suicide if we stopped the bombing 519 00:31:41,495 --> 00:31:43,729 as these idiots talking about. 520 00:31:43,829 --> 00:31:45,496 When you say stop the bombing 521 00:31:45,596 --> 00:31:48,363 you say, "Kill more American Marines." 522 00:31:48,463 --> 00:31:49,363 That's all it means. 523 00:31:49,463 --> 00:31:50,730 DIRKSEN: Yeah. 524 00:31:50,830 --> 00:31:54,064 JOHNSON: Now if we stop bombing, without their talking 525 00:31:54,164 --> 00:31:56,930 and without any reciprocity on their part, 526 00:31:57,031 --> 00:31:59,098 it just means we kill more Americans, that's all 527 00:31:59,198 --> 00:32:00,131 DIRKSEN: Yeah. 528 00:32:07,232 --> 00:32:10,799 NARRATOR: Neither the ongoing bombing of the North, 529 00:32:10,899 --> 00:32:14,333 nor the concentrated bombing around the DMZ, 530 00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:16,367 nor the behind-the-scenes offers 531 00:32:16,467 --> 00:32:19,068 made by President Johnson to stop it 532 00:32:19,168 --> 00:32:22,101 had any discernible effect on Le Duan 533 00:32:22,201 --> 00:32:25,568 and the other men who ran North Vietnam. 534 00:32:25,668 --> 00:32:28,635 But Le Duan, like Lyndon Johnson, 535 00:32:28,735 --> 00:32:30,702 was in trouble that summer. 536 00:32:30,802 --> 00:32:33,670 The war with the Americans had produced little more 537 00:32:33,770 --> 00:32:35,703 than a bloody stalemate. 538 00:32:35,803 --> 00:32:38,770 Some Viet Cong commanders in the South 539 00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:43,137 resented Hanoi's insistence on directing their tactics. 540 00:32:43,237 --> 00:32:47,437 Many North Vietnamese civilians were weary of the war 541 00:32:47,537 --> 00:32:50,438 and of the bombing that had disrupted their lives 542 00:32:50,538 --> 00:32:54,072 and destroyed so much of their infrastructure. 543 00:32:54,172 --> 00:32:56,739 The country's most revered figures, 544 00:32:56,839 --> 00:33:01,339 Ho Chi Minh and Vo Nguyen Giap, were urging patience, 545 00:33:01,439 --> 00:33:05,507 continuing to wage a war of attrition, they still believed, 546 00:33:05,607 --> 00:33:08,707 would pay off in the end. 547 00:33:08,807 --> 00:33:12,341 Hanoi's Soviet and Chinese patrons offered 548 00:33:12,441 --> 00:33:15,341 conflicting advice, as well. 549 00:33:15,441 --> 00:33:19,676 To silence his critics and break the stalemate, 550 00:33:19,776 --> 00:33:22,242 Le Duan began to devise and promote 551 00:33:22,342 --> 00:33:25,710 a new and riskier version of the plan for victory 552 00:33:25,810 --> 00:33:29,277 he had tried in 1964. 553 00:33:29,377 --> 00:33:34,844 He called it the "General Offensive, General Uprising." 554 00:33:34,944 --> 00:33:38,679 North Vietnamese and Viet Cong units would launch 555 00:33:38,779 --> 00:33:43,012 scores of coordinated attacks on South Vietnamese cities 556 00:33:43,112 --> 00:33:46,246 and towns and military bases. 557 00:33:46,346 --> 00:33:48,580 That offensive, Le Duan believed, 558 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,213 would ignite a mass civilian uprising. 559 00:33:52,313 --> 00:33:56,781 These simultaneous blows would destroy the Saigon regime 560 00:33:56,881 --> 00:34:00,815 and leave Washington with no choice but to withdraw. 561 00:34:51,922 --> 00:34:53,455 WILLBANKS: We talk about our own hubris. 562 00:34:53,555 --> 00:34:55,689 There's some hubris on their side as well. 563 00:34:55,789 --> 00:34:57,655 And once they had convinced themselves 564 00:34:57,755 --> 00:35:00,490 that this was going to be a great success, 565 00:35:00,590 --> 00:35:03,590 it is what some wags have called drinking your own bathwater. 566 00:35:05,023 --> 00:35:06,324 They decided it's going to be a victory, 567 00:35:06,424 --> 00:35:08,424 even though there are people in the South saying, 568 00:35:08,524 --> 00:35:09,957 "Hey, this is not a great idea." 569 00:35:10,057 --> 00:35:13,825 But these people are charged with subjectivism 570 00:35:13,925 --> 00:35:16,558 and basically are told to shut up and keep rolling. 571 00:35:16,658 --> 00:35:20,959 NARRATOR: Le Duan neutralized those who opposed his plan. 572 00:35:21,059 --> 00:35:24,193 Members of General Giap's staff were arrested. 573 00:35:24,293 --> 00:35:26,859 So was Ho Chi Minh's secretary. 574 00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:30,627 HUY DUC: 575 00:35:43,529 --> 00:35:48,229 NARRATOR: Hundreds of less prominent figures-- journalists, students, 576 00:35:48,329 --> 00:35:51,563 even highly decorated heroes of the French War-- 577 00:35:51,663 --> 00:35:53,797 were also rounded up. 578 00:35:53,897 --> 00:35:56,731 Many were locked up in the old French prison 579 00:35:56,831 --> 00:36:00,531 that the American POWs also confined there called 580 00:36:00,631 --> 00:36:03,098 the "Hanoi Hilton." 581 00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:06,932 The date eventually chosen for the attack would be 582 00:36:07,032 --> 00:36:10,600 January 31, 1968, 583 00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:14,733 the first day of the Vietnamese Lunar New Year celebration, 584 00:36:14,833 --> 00:36:17,701 known as Tet. 585 00:36:17,801 --> 00:36:21,767 Hundreds, then thousands, of North Vietnamese regulars 586 00:36:21,867 --> 00:36:24,968 in civilian clothes began slipping southward 587 00:36:25,068 --> 00:36:29,702 to join tens of thousands of Viet Cong already in place. 588 00:36:31,402 --> 00:36:32,836 HO HUU LAN: 589 00:36:54,506 --> 00:36:58,172 HUY DUC: 590 00:37:40,678 --> 00:37:42,945 NARRATOR: In preparation for the coming offensive, 591 00:37:43,045 --> 00:37:45,746 the North Vietnamese hoped to lure American 592 00:37:45,846 --> 00:37:49,013 and South Vietnamese forces away from cities 593 00:37:49,113 --> 00:37:51,379 and big military bases. 594 00:37:51,479 --> 00:37:54,914 To do that, they would mount a series of assaults 595 00:37:55,014 --> 00:38:00,548 on remote outposts near Cambodia, Laos, and the DMZ. 596 00:38:00,648 --> 00:38:05,615 These preliminary attacks became known as the "Border Battles." 597 00:38:05,715 --> 00:38:09,049 Con Thien would be the first. 598 00:38:12,316 --> 00:38:14,517 In September and October, 599 00:38:14,617 --> 00:38:17,617 John Musgrave's and Roger Harris's outfits 600 00:38:17,717 --> 00:38:20,183 took turns defending Con Thien 601 00:38:20,283 --> 00:38:24,184 as the North Vietnamese tightened the noose around them. 602 00:38:24,284 --> 00:38:27,918 The only way in or out was by helicopter. 603 00:38:30,219 --> 00:38:34,552 Con Thien in Vietnamese means "Hill of Angels." 604 00:38:34,652 --> 00:38:36,620 (explosion) 605 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:40,186 MUSGRAVE: Time at Con Thien was time in the barrel. 606 00:38:40,286 --> 00:38:44,421 (multiple explosions) 607 00:38:44,521 --> 00:38:47,554 We were the fish, they had the shotguns, 608 00:38:47,654 --> 00:38:49,722 they stuck in the barrel and blasted away. 609 00:38:49,822 --> 00:38:52,522 And they were gonna hit something every shot. 610 00:38:52,622 --> 00:38:55,622 Because Con Thien was such a small area, 611 00:38:55,722 --> 00:38:57,656 and they pounded it with that artillery 612 00:38:57,756 --> 00:38:59,756 from North Vietnam, they couldn't miss. 613 00:39:00,889 --> 00:39:02,723 HO HUU LAN: 614 00:39:06,724 --> 00:39:10,924 I've never been, uh, as afraid. 615 00:39:11,024 --> 00:39:13,291 In fact that's why I'm not afraid of anything now. 616 00:39:13,391 --> 00:39:15,758 I mean... 617 00:39:15,858 --> 00:39:17,191 there's nothing you can do. 618 00:39:17,291 --> 00:39:20,959 You just listen to the sounds of the rockets coming over. 619 00:39:21,059 --> 00:39:24,592 And you just pray that they don't land on you. 620 00:39:24,692 --> 00:39:27,327 The big question really seems to be whether or not 621 00:39:27,427 --> 00:39:30,693 the North Vietnamese intend to overrun Con Thien. 622 00:39:30,793 --> 00:39:33,628 The Marines have tripled the number of troops 623 00:39:33,728 --> 00:39:35,061 guarding the outpost, 624 00:39:35,161 --> 00:39:36,661 and they've moved up more battalions to be ready 625 00:39:36,761 --> 00:39:38,328 to reinforce. 626 00:39:38,428 --> 00:39:40,362 MUSGRAVE: I sat in water. 627 00:39:40,462 --> 00:39:42,262 I slept in water. 628 00:39:42,362 --> 00:39:46,029 I ate in water, because our holes were full. 629 00:39:46,129 --> 00:39:48,296 I mean a flooded foxhole could drown a wounded man. 630 00:39:48,396 --> 00:39:50,996 HARRIS: Spend your day filling up sand bags, 631 00:39:51,096 --> 00:39:54,763 trying to create barriers that you just put another layer on, 632 00:39:54,864 --> 00:39:56,531 put another layer on. 633 00:39:56,631 --> 00:40:01,097 A lot of mud, blood, uh... 634 00:40:01,197 --> 00:40:02,398 and artillery. 635 00:40:03,565 --> 00:40:04,865 MUSGRAVE: It's red clay up there. 636 00:40:04,965 --> 00:40:07,598 And it's real sticky and it could just grab onto you 637 00:40:07,698 --> 00:40:09,499 and pull your boots off. 638 00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:10,966 It's hard to run in that stuff. 639 00:40:11,066 --> 00:40:12,766 And running, when you're at a place 640 00:40:12,866 --> 00:40:14,399 where they're firing heavy artillery at you, 641 00:40:14,499 --> 00:40:15,699 running's pretty important. 642 00:40:18,467 --> 00:40:20,534 During the siege in the fall of 1967, 643 00:40:20,634 --> 00:40:22,767 we were getting newspaper articles in the mail 644 00:40:22,867 --> 00:40:26,201 from our families and we were being called the Alamo. 645 00:40:26,301 --> 00:40:29,168 You know, hey, we knew what the Alamo was. 646 00:40:29,268 --> 00:40:31,336 We knew what happened there. 647 00:40:31,436 --> 00:40:35,036 (explosions) 648 00:40:35,136 --> 00:40:37,036 (men shouting) 649 00:40:37,136 --> 00:40:39,237 (explosions continue) 650 00:40:39,337 --> 00:40:42,237 HARRIS: Like almost like every hour there'd be a barrage. 651 00:40:44,303 --> 00:40:47,971 People get blown to bits, literally blown to bits. 652 00:40:48,071 --> 00:40:51,771 You find a... a boot with a leg in it, right. 653 00:40:51,871 --> 00:40:54,272 And so is the leg white or black? 654 00:40:54,372 --> 00:40:56,305 So who... who was the white Marine that was here? 655 00:40:56,405 --> 00:40:57,472 Who was the black? 656 00:40:57,572 --> 00:40:59,672 So then you try to remember and you tag it 657 00:40:59,772 --> 00:41:01,140 and put that in the green bag. 658 00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:03,906 And that's what goes back, you know, 659 00:41:04,006 --> 00:41:06,273 as Marine Lance Corporal so and so. 660 00:41:06,373 --> 00:41:09,407 And so, but sometimes you're not even sure because the body 661 00:41:09,507 --> 00:41:11,507 has literally been blown to bits, and the only thing 662 00:41:11,607 --> 00:41:14,174 that's left is a foot or a piece of an arm. 663 00:41:14,274 --> 00:41:18,842 MUSGRAVE: I carried a wallet calendar from Clifford Forlow Insurance. 664 00:41:18,942 --> 00:41:21,075 He was my dad's insurance agent. 665 00:41:21,175 --> 00:41:24,709 And I marked off each of the days religiously. 666 00:41:24,809 --> 00:41:29,377 And then in October, we went up to Con Thien again. 667 00:41:29,477 --> 00:41:34,344 I just stopped, because I thought, "This is pointless. 668 00:41:34,444 --> 00:41:36,578 "I'm not getting... I'm not gonna go home. 669 00:41:36,678 --> 00:41:38,078 "I'm not gonna make it home. 670 00:41:38,178 --> 00:41:40,111 What... you know, what's the point?" 671 00:41:40,211 --> 00:41:42,111 So I just quit marking them off. 672 00:41:43,712 --> 00:41:45,912 HARRIS: I had the opportunity to call my mother, you know. 673 00:41:46,012 --> 00:41:48,579 And I was telling my mother what was happening over there 674 00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:50,813 and I was telling her how she shouldn't believe 675 00:41:50,913 --> 00:41:54,713 what she sees in the newspaper and-and sees on television 676 00:41:54,813 --> 00:41:57,013 because we're losing the war. 677 00:41:57,113 --> 00:41:59,614 And I said, "You'll probably never see me again 678 00:41:59,714 --> 00:42:02,981 "because we're the most northern outpost that the Marines have, 679 00:42:03,081 --> 00:42:04,481 "you know. 680 00:42:04,581 --> 00:42:06,715 "We could literally could look right into North Vietnam. 681 00:42:06,815 --> 00:42:09,282 We could see the sparks when the guns fired on us." 682 00:42:09,382 --> 00:42:12,650 And I said, "And everybody in my unit is dying, you know. 683 00:42:12,750 --> 00:42:14,616 And I probably won't be coming back." 684 00:42:14,716 --> 00:42:16,816 And my mother said, "No, you're coming back." 685 00:42:16,916 --> 00:42:19,751 She said, "I talk to God every day and you're special. 686 00:42:19,851 --> 00:42:22,084 You're coming back." 687 00:42:22,184 --> 00:42:24,551 And I said, "Ma, everybody's mother thinks that 688 00:42:24,651 --> 00:42:26,251 "they're special, you know. 689 00:42:26,351 --> 00:42:28,318 I'm putting pieces of special people in bags." 690 00:42:30,418 --> 00:42:32,218 And I was feeling that my mother's in denial. 691 00:42:32,318 --> 00:42:34,586 She just doesn't want to face the fact that her only son 692 00:42:34,686 --> 00:42:36,619 is gonna die in Vietnam. 693 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,219 And I said, "Ma, this isn't a joke." 694 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:39,919 I said, "Everybody's dying over here, you know. 695 00:42:40,019 --> 00:42:41,086 Everybody's dying." 696 00:42:41,186 --> 00:42:42,720 And she said, "You're not gonna die. 697 00:42:42,820 --> 00:42:44,220 You're not gonna die." 698 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,554 And, uh, the last thing she said to me was, 699 00:42:46,654 --> 00:42:48,721 "God has a plan for you." 700 00:42:48,821 --> 00:42:49,955 And I said, "Yeah, right." 701 00:42:50,055 --> 00:42:51,055 And I hung up. 702 00:42:51,988 --> 00:42:53,655 (explosion) 703 00:42:55,922 --> 00:42:58,656 Mr. Stout, during what period of time were you in Vietnam? 704 00:42:58,756 --> 00:43:01,922 I was in Vietnam from September of 1966 705 00:43:02,022 --> 00:43:04,223 to September of 1967, one year. 706 00:43:04,323 --> 00:43:05,690 And with what unit? 707 00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:07,557 With the 1st Brigade of the 101st Airborne. 708 00:43:07,657 --> 00:43:10,023 During the time that you were in Vietnam, 709 00:43:10,123 --> 00:43:12,158 did you personally witness any atrocities 710 00:43:12,258 --> 00:43:14,191 on the part of American troops? 711 00:43:14,291 --> 00:43:15,191 Yes, I did. 712 00:43:16,858 --> 00:43:20,259 NARRATOR: Dennis Stout from Phoenix, Arizona, had enlisted 713 00:43:20,359 --> 00:43:25,160 in the Army at 20, and served nine months in combat. 714 00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:28,760 Wounded three times, he became an Army reporter 715 00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:34,627 covering the 327th Regiment of the 101st Airborne. 716 00:43:34,727 --> 00:43:39,061 He would spend most of his time with a unique commando platoon 717 00:43:39,161 --> 00:43:40,562 called "Tiger Force"-- 718 00:43:40,662 --> 00:43:43,895 small, handpicked teams, capable of remaining 719 00:43:43,995 --> 00:43:46,729 in the jungle for weeks at a time, 720 00:43:46,829 --> 00:43:49,463 fast-moving and deadly, 721 00:43:49,563 --> 00:43:53,329 intended to "out-guerrilla the guerrillas." 722 00:43:54,664 --> 00:43:57,364 Tiger Force fought in six different provinces, 723 00:43:57,464 --> 00:44:00,564 repeatedly suffering heavy losses. 724 00:44:00,664 --> 00:44:01,998 (rapid gunfire) 725 00:44:03,798 --> 00:44:07,065 RION CAUSEY: If you've lost your best friend and you want revenge, 726 00:44:07,165 --> 00:44:10,399 it's the officers who say, "No, you can't do that." 727 00:44:10,499 --> 00:44:13,599 And if you do it, then there's consequences. 728 00:44:13,699 --> 00:44:16,433 But when the officers, and it includes the platoon leader 729 00:44:16,533 --> 00:44:19,467 and the battalion commander, are telling you that this is 730 00:44:19,567 --> 00:44:24,201 what you're supposed to do, then it gets completely out of hand. 731 00:44:24,301 --> 00:44:28,301 NARRATOR: Some at MACV worried that such a freewheeling outfit, 732 00:44:28,401 --> 00:44:32,169 operating on its own, would be difficult to control. 733 00:44:32,269 --> 00:44:33,869 (gunfire) 734 00:44:33,969 --> 00:44:37,503 But General Westmoreland and commanders in the field 735 00:44:37,603 --> 00:44:42,136 admired Tiger Force for its reliable ferocity. 736 00:44:42,236 --> 00:44:46,271 In the summer of 1967, Tiger Force was sent 737 00:44:46,371 --> 00:44:48,871 to the fertile Song Ve Valley. 738 00:44:48,971 --> 00:44:51,905 The entire population had already been herded 739 00:44:52,005 --> 00:44:56,572 from their homes and crowded into a refugee camp. 740 00:44:56,672 --> 00:44:59,906 But some had come back to resume the farming 741 00:45:00,006 --> 00:45:02,273 they had always done. 742 00:45:03,773 --> 00:45:06,940 The valley had officially been declared a free-fire zone, 743 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,140 and Tiger Force's officers took that literally. 744 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:15,108 "There are no friendlies," one lieutenant told his men. 745 00:45:15,208 --> 00:45:18,041 "Shoot anything that moves." 746 00:45:21,542 --> 00:45:24,509 Over a seven-month period, they killed scores 747 00:45:24,609 --> 00:45:27,109 of unarmed civilians. 748 00:45:27,209 --> 00:45:30,710 Among their victims were two blind brothers; 749 00:45:30,810 --> 00:45:35,311 an elderly Buddhist monk; women, children, and old people 750 00:45:35,411 --> 00:45:37,578 hiding in underground shelters; 751 00:45:37,678 --> 00:45:40,944 and three farmers trying to plant rice. 752 00:45:41,044 --> 00:45:45,445 All were reported as "enemy-- killed in action." 753 00:45:48,312 --> 00:45:52,246 STOUT: These atrocities were committed by soldiers 754 00:45:52,346 --> 00:45:54,580 of units I was assigned to as a reporter 755 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,513 for the Army newspapers, such as... 756 00:45:56,613 --> 00:46:00,081 NARRATOR: Tiger Force was not the only platoon 757 00:46:00,181 --> 00:46:03,747 Dennis Stout covered that crossed the line. 758 00:46:03,847 --> 00:46:06,915 One such incident was the rape and killing 759 00:46:07,015 --> 00:46:08,815 of a Vietnamese girl. 760 00:46:08,915 --> 00:46:13,716 She was captured, kept for interrogation. 761 00:46:13,816 --> 00:46:16,683 Over a two-day period, she was raped, then, 762 00:46:16,783 --> 00:46:18,516 on the morning of the third day, she was killed. 763 00:46:18,617 --> 00:46:22,017 Was she raped by more than one person? 764 00:46:22,117 --> 00:46:25,684 Yes, all but the medic and myself, 765 00:46:25,784 --> 00:46:27,518 and possibly one other man from the platoon. 766 00:46:27,618 --> 00:46:28,618 Did you protest? 767 00:46:28,718 --> 00:46:30,785 Did you try in any way to have them stopped? 768 00:46:30,885 --> 00:46:34,152 Yes. After the rape incident, I complained 769 00:46:34,252 --> 00:46:38,652 to the battalion sergeant major, and his response was that 770 00:46:38,752 --> 00:46:41,020 this type of thing happens in all wars, 771 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,420 and that I was not to mention it; it was a common occurrence. 772 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,821 Then later, I went to the chaplain, told him about it, 773 00:46:48,921 --> 00:46:51,154 he made an investigation himself, 774 00:46:51,254 --> 00:46:53,521 found that this was true, went with me 775 00:46:53,621 --> 00:46:55,055 to the sergeant major. 776 00:46:55,155 --> 00:46:59,222 The sergeant major then said that... 777 00:46:59,322 --> 00:47:01,189 well, he told the chaplain to stick to religion, 778 00:47:01,289 --> 00:47:04,823 sent him away, and then he told me to keep quiet, 779 00:47:04,923 --> 00:47:08,590 that I did nothave t o return from the next operation. 780 00:47:10,124 --> 00:47:13,191 NARRATOR: Years later, another soldier came forward 781 00:47:13,291 --> 00:47:15,991 with more allegations of war crimes, 782 00:47:16,091 --> 00:47:19,558 and an Army investigation would find probable cause 783 00:47:19,658 --> 00:47:24,559 to try 18 members of Tiger Force for murder or assault. 784 00:47:25,659 --> 00:47:28,159 But no charges were ever brought. 785 00:47:28,259 --> 00:47:31,394 The official records were buried in the archives. 786 00:47:33,294 --> 00:47:35,194 WILLBANKS: They should have all gone to jail. 787 00:47:35,294 --> 00:47:36,760 They were guilty of murder. 788 00:47:36,860 --> 00:47:38,228 Period. 789 00:47:38,328 --> 00:47:41,761 At the same time, I felt like that incident, 790 00:47:41,861 --> 00:47:45,028 which I think was an aberration, not the norm, 791 00:47:45,128 --> 00:47:47,729 tarred all veterans, and there are hundreds of thousands 792 00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:49,596 of veterans who went and did their duty, 793 00:47:49,696 --> 00:47:52,129 and as honorable as they possibly could, 794 00:47:52,229 --> 00:47:53,997 and they're tarred with the same brush. 795 00:47:56,097 --> 00:47:59,363 KARL MARLANTES: One of the things that I learned in the war is that 796 00:47:59,463 --> 00:48:04,098 we're not the top species on the planet because we're nice. 797 00:48:04,198 --> 00:48:07,365 We are a very aggressive species. 798 00:48:07,465 --> 00:48:09,132 It is in us. 799 00:48:09,232 --> 00:48:12,565 And people talk a lot about how, "Well, the military turns 800 00:48:12,665 --> 00:48:15,633 kids into killing machines" and stuff. 801 00:48:17,233 --> 00:48:19,966 And I'll always argue that it's just finishing school. 802 00:48:20,066 --> 00:48:24,701 What we do with civilization is that we learn to inhibit 803 00:48:24,801 --> 00:48:28,134 and rope in these aggressive tendencies. 804 00:48:28,234 --> 00:48:30,568 And we have to recognize them. 805 00:48:30,668 --> 00:48:34,468 I worry about a whole country that doesn't recognize it. 806 00:48:34,568 --> 00:48:36,436 'Cause you think of how many times we get ourselves 807 00:48:36,536 --> 00:48:39,869 in scrapes as a nation because we're always the good guys. 808 00:48:39,969 --> 00:48:42,836 Sometimes, I think if we thought that we weren't always 809 00:48:42,936 --> 00:48:45,270 the good guys, we might actually get in less wars. 810 00:48:48,604 --> 00:48:49,604 (static humming) 811 00:48:49,704 --> 00:48:50,971 REPORTER: Mr. Rubin, 812 00:48:51,071 --> 00:48:53,805 how do you realistically expect to shut down the Pentagon? 813 00:48:53,905 --> 00:48:57,005 The Pentagon represents the murder of people 814 00:48:57,105 --> 00:48:58,372 throughout the world. 815 00:48:58,472 --> 00:49:00,606 And the American people have no control 816 00:49:00,706 --> 00:49:02,106 of what their government's doing. 817 00:49:02,206 --> 00:49:05,673 And so we're going to go there in the scores of thousands, 818 00:49:05,773 --> 00:49:08,840 and block doors and fill hallways, 819 00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:10,973 so the work of the Pentagon stops. 820 00:49:11,073 --> 00:49:13,208 Because the work of the Pentagon should stop. 821 00:49:13,308 --> 00:49:15,508 The only thing to do with the Pentagon is to shut it down. 822 00:49:15,608 --> 00:49:18,208 ("Waist Deep in the Big Muddy" by Pete Seeger playing) 823 00:49:18,308 --> 00:49:20,975 ♪ It was back in 1942 824 00:49:21,075 --> 00:49:23,342 ♪ I was a member of a good platoon ♪ 825 00:49:23,442 --> 00:49:26,675 ♪ We were on maneuvers in Louisiana ♪ 826 00:49:26,775 --> 00:49:28,676 ♪ One night by the light of the moon ♪ 827 00:49:28,776 --> 00:49:32,343 ♪ The captain told us to ford a river ♪ 828 00:49:32,443 --> 00:49:35,044 ♪ That's how it all begun 829 00:49:35,144 --> 00:49:37,577 ♪ We were knee deep in the Big Muddy ♪ 830 00:49:37,677 --> 00:49:40,444 ♪ The big fool says to push on 831 00:49:40,544 --> 00:49:44,212 BILL ZIMMERMAN: There was a major demonstration either in New York 832 00:49:44,312 --> 00:49:48,879 or in Washington every fall and every spring. 833 00:49:48,979 --> 00:49:52,013 We decided that we would go to the demonstration 834 00:49:52,113 --> 00:49:55,679 in Washington at the Lincoln Memorial in the fall of '67, 835 00:49:55,780 --> 00:49:58,380 but we would take as many people out of that demonstration 836 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,280 as we could and lead them to the Pentagon. 837 00:50:02,380 --> 00:50:06,848 And at the Pentagon, try to do something more militant 838 00:50:06,948 --> 00:50:10,582 than simply stand around and make speeches opposing the war, 839 00:50:10,682 --> 00:50:13,649 which is what these demonstrations had become. 840 00:50:13,749 --> 00:50:15,149 SEEGER: ♪ No man will be able to swim. 841 00:50:15,249 --> 00:50:18,550 ZIMMERMAN: And when the time came to lead people away 842 00:50:18,650 --> 00:50:20,817 from the Lincoln Memorial toward the Pentagon, 843 00:50:20,917 --> 00:50:23,483 50,000 people marched. 844 00:50:23,583 --> 00:50:25,884 SEEGER: ♪ Men, follow me, I'll lead on 845 00:50:25,984 --> 00:50:28,918 ♪ We were neck deep in the Big Muddy ♪ 846 00:50:29,018 --> 00:50:32,019 ♪ The big fool says to push on. ♪ 847 00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:35,919 NARRATOR: Bill Zimmerman, now an assistant professor of psychology 848 00:50:36,019 --> 00:50:38,652 at Brooklyn College, had been against the war 849 00:50:38,752 --> 00:50:40,586 since the beginning. 850 00:50:40,686 --> 00:50:45,120 ZIMMERMAN: Then we found when we got there concentric defense perimeters 851 00:50:45,220 --> 00:50:48,321 that had been set up around the Pentagon to keep us 852 00:50:48,421 --> 00:50:50,021 at a distance from the building. 853 00:50:50,121 --> 00:50:54,522 We pushed against them, we tore down their fences. 854 00:50:54,622 --> 00:50:56,488 SEEGER: ♪ With the captain dead and gone ♪ 855 00:50:56,588 --> 00:50:58,188 ♪ We stripped and dived and found his body. ♪ 856 00:50:58,288 --> 00:51:01,089 LESLIE GELB: I was working that weekend day. 857 00:51:01,189 --> 00:51:05,456 The secretaries who were working in my area were frightened 858 00:51:05,556 --> 00:51:10,090 to hell what these Vietnam protesters would do. 859 00:51:10,190 --> 00:51:11,524 They thought they were going to come into the building 860 00:51:11,624 --> 00:51:12,757 and rape them. 861 00:51:12,857 --> 00:51:15,224 Some of them actually came over the walls. 862 00:51:15,324 --> 00:51:17,258 SEEGER: ♪ The big fool said to push on. ♪ 863 00:51:17,358 --> 00:51:20,758 GELB: It was a sense of revolution. 864 00:51:20,858 --> 00:51:21,858 (crowd yelling) 865 00:51:21,958 --> 00:51:23,792 SEEGER: ♪ Waist deep in the Big Muddy 866 00:51:23,892 --> 00:51:25,759 ♪ The big fool says to push on 867 00:51:25,859 --> 00:51:28,692 ♪ Waist deep in the Big Muddy 868 00:51:28,792 --> 00:51:30,827 ♪ The big fool says to push on. ♪ 869 00:51:30,927 --> 00:51:35,160 ZIMMERMAN: God knows what we were going to do when we got in the building. 870 00:51:35,260 --> 00:51:37,194 Some people, the hippies, 871 00:51:37,294 --> 00:51:39,128 said they were going to levitate the building. 872 00:51:39,228 --> 00:51:42,594 Other people wanted to commit vandalism in the building. 873 00:51:42,694 --> 00:51:45,062 Other people wanted to distribute antiwar literature 874 00:51:45,162 --> 00:51:47,429 in the building, talk to people. 875 00:51:47,529 --> 00:51:50,929 Just the idea of getting into the headquarters 876 00:51:51,029 --> 00:51:53,096 of the United States military... 877 00:51:54,896 --> 00:51:58,196 It was the first time that antiwar demonstrators 878 00:51:58,296 --> 00:52:02,697 had confronted active-duty military personnel. 879 00:52:02,797 --> 00:52:05,397 We didn't consider them the enemy. 880 00:52:05,497 --> 00:52:08,965 We considered them victims of the war. 881 00:52:09,065 --> 00:52:14,166 But we began to see our own government as the enemy. 882 00:52:14,266 --> 00:52:18,533 NARRATOR: President Johnson believed that international communism 883 00:52:18,633 --> 00:52:21,134 was somehow behind the demonstration. 884 00:52:21,234 --> 00:52:24,600 He had directed the CIA to come up with the evidence, 885 00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:28,468 and was furious when it found none. 886 00:52:30,735 --> 00:52:31,635 DWIGHT EISENHOWER: Mr. President? 887 00:52:31,735 --> 00:52:32,601 LYNDON JOHNSON: Yes. 888 00:52:32,701 --> 00:52:33,601 This is General Eisenhower. 889 00:52:33,701 --> 00:52:34,835 How've you been, Mr. President? 890 00:52:34,935 --> 00:52:37,869 I'm doing fine under the circumstances. 891 00:52:37,969 --> 00:52:40,602 But we just had hell, and these college students, 892 00:52:40,702 --> 00:52:42,570 I've had Hoover in after them. 893 00:52:42,670 --> 00:52:46,103 They came marched here, and we arrested 600 of them, 894 00:52:46,203 --> 00:52:49,303 and we gave 29 of them pretty tough times. 895 00:52:49,403 --> 00:52:52,738 We found most of them really were mentally diseased. 896 00:52:52,838 --> 00:52:56,905 Hoover's taken 256 that turned in supposedly their draft cards. 897 00:52:57,005 --> 00:52:59,372 So, you're dealing with mental problems, 898 00:52:59,472 --> 00:53:01,605 I think that we talk too damn much 899 00:53:01,705 --> 00:53:03,905 about civil liberties and constitutional rights 900 00:53:04,006 --> 00:53:05,473 of the individual and not enough 901 00:53:05,573 --> 00:53:07,006 about the rights of the masses. 902 00:53:07,106 --> 00:53:08,373 EISENHOWER: That's why we have it. 903 00:53:08,473 --> 00:53:10,440 We have freely elected people and we've got to 904 00:53:10,540 --> 00:53:11,941 stand behind them. 905 00:53:12,041 --> 00:53:14,507 JOHNSON: I think your government's in trouble, General. 906 00:53:14,607 --> 00:53:16,474 I think it's in... I don't want to say this. 907 00:53:16,574 --> 00:53:18,274 But I think we're in more danger 908 00:53:18,374 --> 00:53:20,275 from these left-wing influences now 909 00:53:20,375 --> 00:53:23,242 than we've ever been in 37 years I've been here. 910 00:53:23,342 --> 00:53:26,376 And they're working in my party from within. 911 00:53:26,476 --> 00:53:29,043 And Bobby thinks he's going to get the nomination. 912 00:53:29,143 --> 00:53:33,377 NARRATOR: Allard Lowenstein, a 38-year-old attorney from New York, 913 00:53:33,477 --> 00:53:36,510 shared the antiwar fervor of the protestors, 914 00:53:36,610 --> 00:53:38,410 but he believed the most effective way 915 00:53:38,510 --> 00:53:42,211 to end the fighting was to work within the political system, 916 00:53:42,311 --> 00:53:44,111 not outside it. 917 00:53:44,211 --> 00:53:46,945 The answer, he said, was to stop Lyndon Johnson 918 00:53:47,045 --> 00:53:50,612 from getting a second full term as president. 919 00:53:50,712 --> 00:53:54,880 He had traveled the country all year in search of someone 920 00:53:54,980 --> 00:53:57,613 willing to challenge the president in the upcoming 921 00:53:57,713 --> 00:53:59,647 Democratic primaries. 922 00:53:59,747 --> 00:54:02,948 He asked Senator Robert Kennedy of New York, 923 00:54:03,048 --> 00:54:06,048 who had begun to criticize the Johnson administration 924 00:54:06,148 --> 00:54:07,548 over the war. 925 00:54:07,648 --> 00:54:10,949 He asked Lieutenant General James Gavin. 926 00:54:11,049 --> 00:54:15,015 He asked Senator George McGovern of South Dakota. 927 00:54:15,115 --> 00:54:17,250 They all turned him down. 928 00:54:17,350 --> 00:54:20,983 Lowenstein kept looking. 929 00:54:25,984 --> 00:54:31,085 At Fort Sill, Oklahoma, on November 17, 1967, 930 00:54:31,185 --> 00:54:34,418 friends and family of a fallen soldier gathered 931 00:54:34,518 --> 00:54:37,985 for a funeral, one of five military funerals 932 00:54:38,085 --> 00:54:40,486 held there that month. 933 00:54:40,586 --> 00:54:45,319 First Sergeant Pascal Cleatus Poolaw had been killed 934 00:54:45,420 --> 00:54:47,920 as he tried to drag one of his wounded men 935 00:54:48,020 --> 00:54:52,788 off the battlefield near the village of Loc Ninh. 936 00:54:52,888 --> 00:54:58,021 He was a remarkable soldier, had been awarded one Silver Star 937 00:54:58,121 --> 00:55:03,589 in World War II, two more in Korea, and was awarded a fourth, 938 00:55:03,689 --> 00:55:07,923 posthumously, for his gallantry in Vietnam. 939 00:55:08,023 --> 00:55:11,090 He was a Kiowa Indian. 940 00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:14,057 He and three of his sons were among 941 00:55:14,157 --> 00:55:19,158 the 42,000 Native Americans who would serve in Vietnam, 942 00:55:19,258 --> 00:55:22,959 the highest per capita service rate of any ethnic group 943 00:55:23,059 --> 00:55:25,225 in the United States. 944 00:55:25,325 --> 00:55:30,260 Pascal Poolaw's widow spoke at the ceremony. 945 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,993 "He has followed the trail of the great chiefs," she said. 946 00:55:34,093 --> 00:55:39,294 "His people hold him in honor and highest esteem. 947 00:55:39,394 --> 00:55:43,595 "He has given his life for the people and the country 948 00:55:43,695 --> 00:55:47,862 he loved so much." 949 00:55:51,229 --> 00:55:52,496 ("Somebody to Love" by Jefferson Airplane playing) 950 00:55:52,596 --> 00:55:53,896 ♪ When the truth is found 951 00:55:53,996 --> 00:55:58,030 ♪ To be lies 952 00:55:58,130 --> 00:56:00,964 ♪ And all the joy 953 00:56:01,064 --> 00:56:05,398 ♪ Within you dies 954 00:56:05,498 --> 00:56:07,865 ♪ Don't you want somebody to love? ♪ 955 00:56:07,965 --> 00:56:11,465 ♪ Don't you need somebody to love? ♪ 956 00:56:11,565 --> 00:56:15,232 ♪ Wouldn't you love somebody to love? ♪ 957 00:56:15,332 --> 00:56:19,700 ♪ You better find somebody to love ♪ 958 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,633 ♪ Love. 959 00:56:26,367 --> 00:56:29,301 MUSGRAVE: I didn't hear the word "hippie" until I was at Con Thien 960 00:56:29,401 --> 00:56:30,734 and we got aPlaybo y, somebody got aPlayboy in the mail, 961 00:56:30,834 --> 00:56:33,734 which was obviously very important to us. 962 00:56:33,834 --> 00:56:35,935 And there was an article on Haight-Ashbury 963 00:56:36,035 --> 00:56:37,602 and pictures of the girls running around 964 00:56:37,702 --> 00:56:39,335 without their tops, you know, free love. 965 00:56:39,435 --> 00:56:40,835 And they were hippies. 966 00:56:40,935 --> 00:56:43,436 And we thought it was "hip pie" cause it had two Ps. 967 00:56:43,536 --> 00:56:45,303 You know, "Hey, I'm gonna go home 968 00:56:45,403 --> 00:56:46,736 "and be one of these hip pies 969 00:56:46,836 --> 00:56:48,336 "because the girls don't wear no clothes. 970 00:56:48,436 --> 00:56:50,837 You know, and they'll go to bed with anybody." 971 00:56:50,937 --> 00:56:52,204 You know, even I could score. 972 00:56:52,304 --> 00:56:56,238 But the only information I had of the peace movement 973 00:56:56,338 --> 00:56:57,972 came fromStars and Stripes. 974 00:56:58,072 --> 00:57:01,605 And that wasn't a real objective newspaper. 975 00:57:01,705 --> 00:57:04,039 And so I hated them 976 00:57:04,139 --> 00:57:06,039 before I ever even knew anything about them. 977 00:57:06,139 --> 00:57:08,706 ("Somebody to Love" continues) 978 00:57:12,340 --> 00:57:16,440 NARRATOR: The monsoon rains continued to make life miserable 979 00:57:16,540 --> 00:57:19,941 for John Musgrave and the other Marines at Con Thien. 980 00:57:20,041 --> 00:57:24,041 But by early November, the worst of the shelling had ended. 981 00:57:24,141 --> 00:57:27,642 American airstrikes, artillery, and Navy fire 982 00:57:27,742 --> 00:57:31,042 had taken a fearful toll on the besieging enemy. 983 00:57:32,843 --> 00:57:38,310 Before dawn on November 7, two companies of Musgrave's outfit 984 00:57:38,410 --> 00:57:41,144 were sent half a mile into the countryside 985 00:57:41,244 --> 00:57:44,544 northwest of the base to sweep the area again. 986 00:57:46,412 --> 00:57:50,045 MUSGRAVE: We got into an area that was old hedgerows 987 00:57:50,145 --> 00:57:52,245 that's grown over with jungle. 988 00:57:52,345 --> 00:57:54,713 Very difficult to see very far. 989 00:57:54,813 --> 00:57:57,880 In the clear area, we had three NVA show themselves 990 00:57:57,980 --> 00:58:01,481 and start just spraying 30 rounds out of their AKs 991 00:58:01,581 --> 00:58:02,581 and then booking. 992 00:58:02,681 --> 00:58:03,881 (gunfire) 993 00:58:03,981 --> 00:58:07,847 The company commander himself said, "I want their bodies. 994 00:58:07,947 --> 00:58:09,382 Bring me their bodies." 995 00:58:09,482 --> 00:58:12,748 Everything's about body count, right? 996 00:58:12,848 --> 00:58:15,849 We said, "Man, this is as old as Custer. 997 00:58:15,949 --> 00:58:18,349 "These guys are showing themselves to draw us 998 00:58:18,449 --> 00:58:19,583 "into an ambush. 999 00:58:19,683 --> 00:58:22,216 "Lieutenant, don't do this," you know. 1000 00:58:22,316 --> 00:58:25,917 "Please, these guys are bait." 1001 00:58:26,017 --> 00:58:28,217 Well, the skipper says, "We got to go. 1002 00:58:28,317 --> 00:58:30,351 We got to go." 1003 00:58:30,451 --> 00:58:33,751 And... we went. 1004 00:58:34,885 --> 00:58:36,585 (gunfire) 1005 00:58:36,685 --> 00:58:39,052 And I can't tell you a whole lot about the ambush. 1006 00:58:39,152 --> 00:58:41,186 I was one of the first people to be shot. 1007 00:58:41,286 --> 00:58:43,086 One round put me down. 1008 00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:44,720 (gunfire) 1009 00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:48,287 And my grenadier was down, and we were trying to get him back. 1010 00:58:48,387 --> 00:58:52,488 And Marines, from the first day in boot camp, 1011 00:58:52,588 --> 00:58:55,088 you learn that Marines don't leave their dead, 1012 00:58:55,188 --> 00:58:58,721 and they never, never leave their wounded. 1013 00:59:00,155 --> 00:59:02,855 And that's why I'm alive today. 1014 00:59:02,955 --> 00:59:07,223 First guy that came for me-- I was lying on my face... 1015 00:59:07,323 --> 00:59:08,723 (gunfire) 1016 00:59:08,823 --> 00:59:11,256 he reached down and stuck his arms under my shoulders 1017 00:59:11,356 --> 00:59:15,724 and lifted me up and the machine gun wasn't any far, 1018 00:59:15,824 --> 00:59:21,425 was maybe nine feet, ten feet at the most, away from me. 1019 00:59:21,525 --> 00:59:23,058 This is a very intimate ambush. 1020 00:59:23,158 --> 00:59:24,158 It's a brawl. 1021 00:59:24,258 --> 00:59:25,658 (gunfire) 1022 00:59:25,758 --> 00:59:29,826 And he fired a burst into my chest that blew me out 1023 00:59:29,926 --> 00:59:33,459 of the Marine's arms that was holding me and then he was shot. 1024 00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:36,027 (gunfire) 1025 00:59:36,127 --> 00:59:42,361 Another very brave young Marine, this 18-year-old from Louisiana, 1026 00:59:42,461 --> 00:59:45,495 his first firefight, had seen what happened 1027 00:59:45,595 --> 00:59:48,761 and still came for me. 1028 00:59:48,861 --> 00:59:53,529 And he reached for me, and he was shot I think in the forearm. 1029 00:59:53,629 --> 00:59:56,429 And he was laying beside me. 1030 00:59:56,529 --> 00:59:58,297 Now, I've got a hole through my chest big enough 1031 00:59:58,397 --> 00:59:59,963 to stick your fist through. 1032 01:00:00,930 --> 01:00:02,130 I'm dying and I know it. 1033 01:00:02,230 --> 01:00:03,363 (gunfire) 1034 01:00:03,463 --> 01:00:06,064 And I heard this horrible screaming going on, 1035 01:00:06,164 --> 01:00:09,831 and I was trying to figure out who was screaming like that, 1036 01:00:09,931 --> 01:00:11,199 because it sounded so... 1037 01:00:11,299 --> 01:00:14,265 (distant gunfire) 1038 01:00:18,165 --> 01:00:19,833 And then I realized it was me. 1039 01:00:22,566 --> 01:00:25,000 When they began to drag us out, they were being pursued 1040 01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:28,901 by the North Vietnamese, and they would drop us 1041 01:00:29,001 --> 01:00:30,667 and lay on top of us. 1042 01:00:30,767 --> 01:00:32,101 They knew... we were both dying. 1043 01:00:32,201 --> 01:00:35,535 The grenadier had been shot in the right side of his chest. 1044 01:00:35,635 --> 01:00:37,735 They knew... we were both dead. 1045 01:00:37,835 --> 01:00:40,503 But we were still alive. 1046 01:00:40,603 --> 01:00:42,136 So, they weren't gonna leave us. 1047 01:00:42,236 --> 01:00:44,336 They would die before they would leave us. 1048 01:00:44,436 --> 01:00:46,403 And they covered us with their bodies and fired back 1049 01:00:46,503 --> 01:00:49,737 at the NVA and then they'd jump up and drag us a little farther 1050 01:00:49,837 --> 01:00:52,170 and then drop us and lay back on top of us. 1051 01:00:52,270 --> 01:00:55,138 And I kept telling them to leave me. 1052 01:00:55,238 --> 01:00:56,871 And I meant it. I meant it. 1053 01:00:56,971 --> 01:01:01,105 But all of a sudden I got scared that they might really leave me. 1054 01:01:02,472 --> 01:01:03,472 (distant gunfire) 1055 01:01:03,572 --> 01:01:06,039 I was triaged three times. 1056 01:01:06,139 --> 01:01:08,972 And the senior corpsman said, 1057 01:01:09,072 --> 01:01:10,707 "He's either shot through the heart or the lungs. 1058 01:01:10,807 --> 01:01:11,940 There's nothing I can do for him." 1059 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,707 And he just turned away. 1060 01:01:13,807 --> 01:01:15,907 I went, "Well, okay." 1061 01:01:16,874 --> 01:01:20,541 And then, a helicopter came in. 1062 01:01:20,641 --> 01:01:22,208 And they threw me into the bird. 1063 01:01:22,308 --> 01:01:24,609 (distant helicopter blades humming) 1064 01:01:24,709 --> 01:01:27,942 And the corpsman on the bird straddled me, stood over me, 1065 01:01:28,042 --> 01:01:31,043 and looked down at me, and then looked up at the door gunner 1066 01:01:31,143 --> 01:01:34,943 and went... get me out of the way 1067 01:01:35,043 --> 01:01:36,043 because he couldn't work on me. 1068 01:01:36,143 --> 01:01:37,676 I was a dead man. 1069 01:01:37,776 --> 01:01:39,644 (muted helicopter blades beating) 1070 01:01:39,744 --> 01:01:41,644 And they flew me to Delta Med at Dong Ha. 1071 01:01:41,744 --> 01:01:45,778 And I thought, "Okay, I made it this far." 1072 01:01:45,878 --> 01:01:47,512 And this doctor comes over and looks at me 1073 01:01:47,612 --> 01:01:49,178 and I'm conscious. 1074 01:01:49,278 --> 01:01:51,512 I'm lucid. 1075 01:01:51,612 --> 01:01:53,013 And he checks a couple of things. 1076 01:01:53,113 --> 01:01:54,313 And I've got this huge hole in me. 1077 01:01:54,413 --> 01:01:55,879 And he looks at me right in the eye, and he says, 1078 01:01:55,979 --> 01:01:57,746 "What's your religion, Marine?" 1079 01:01:57,846 --> 01:01:59,914 And I said, "Well, I'm a Protestant." 1080 01:02:00,014 --> 01:02:01,080 And he says, "Get a chaplain over here. 1081 01:02:01,180 --> 01:02:02,780 I can't help this man." 1082 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:03,780 And then he walked away. 1083 01:02:05,247 --> 01:02:10,515 Another surgeon walks by, and he looked at me, 1084 01:02:10,615 --> 01:02:14,716 and I was raised to always be nice to people. 1085 01:02:14,816 --> 01:02:18,616 And when he looked at me, I smiled at him and nodded. 1086 01:02:18,716 --> 01:02:22,883 And he said, "Why isn't somebody helping this man?" 1087 01:02:22,983 --> 01:02:24,283 And inside I'm going, 1088 01:02:24,383 --> 01:02:26,017 "Yeah, why isn't somebody helping this man?" 1089 01:02:27,217 --> 01:02:30,151 When they put me to sleep, I thought, 1090 01:02:30,251 --> 01:02:33,284 "Boy, this is really it," you know. 1091 01:02:33,384 --> 01:02:35,985 And it was kind of, "Okay, God, 1092 01:02:36,085 --> 01:02:38,685 into your hands, I deliver my spirit." 1093 01:02:39,885 --> 01:02:41,752 And I thought that was it. 1094 01:02:43,753 --> 01:02:45,953 And when I woke up in the surgical intensive care ward, 1095 01:02:46,053 --> 01:02:48,453 which was a Quonset hut, 1096 01:02:48,553 --> 01:02:51,087 I thought, "Holy mackerel." 1097 01:02:51,187 --> 01:02:55,221 I just couldn't... I couldn't believe it. 1098 01:02:58,922 --> 01:03:00,422 Yesterday over Hanoi, 1099 01:03:00,522 --> 01:03:02,288 three American planes were shot down 1100 01:03:02,388 --> 01:03:05,023 and at least two of their pilots captured. 1101 01:03:05,123 --> 01:03:08,656 One of them was Lieutenant Commander John McCain III, 1102 01:03:08,756 --> 01:03:11,923 the son of the U.S. Naval commander in Europe. 1103 01:03:13,257 --> 01:03:15,690 BAO NINH: 1104 01:03:49,462 --> 01:03:53,029 NARRATOR: Hanoi was so pleased to have captured the son 1105 01:03:53,129 --> 01:03:56,530 of an American admiral that they allowed a French journalist 1106 01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:59,163 to interview McCain in the hospital. 1107 01:03:59,263 --> 01:04:03,564 He had just had his broken bones set without even an aspirin 1108 01:04:03,664 --> 01:04:05,097 for the pain. 1109 01:04:05,197 --> 01:04:06,397 INTERVIEWER: What is your name? 1110 01:04:06,497 --> 01:04:09,564 Lieutenant Commander John McCain. 1111 01:04:09,664 --> 01:04:12,732 How many raids have you done until the last one? 1112 01:04:12,832 --> 01:04:14,598 About 23. 1113 01:04:14,698 --> 01:04:19,399 In which circumstances have you been shot down? 1114 01:04:19,499 --> 01:04:24,266 I was on a flight over the city of Hanoi, 1115 01:04:24,366 --> 01:04:31,467 and I was bombing and I was hit by either a missile 1116 01:04:31,567 --> 01:04:33,268 or anti-aircraft fire. 1117 01:04:33,368 --> 01:04:40,369 I'm not sure which, and the plane continued straight down, 1118 01:04:40,469 --> 01:04:49,037 and I ejected and broke my leg and both arms 1119 01:04:49,137 --> 01:04:55,904 and went into a lake; parachuted into a lake. 1120 01:04:56,004 --> 01:05:00,872 And I was picked up by some North Vietnamese 1121 01:05:00,972 --> 01:05:07,039 and taken to the hospital, where I almost died. 1122 01:05:07,139 --> 01:05:09,406 I would just like to tell... 1123 01:05:13,773 --> 01:05:16,207 ...my wife... 1124 01:05:17,007 --> 01:05:19,574 ...I will get well... 1125 01:05:22,107 --> 01:05:28,842 ...and I love her and I hope to see her soon. 1126 01:05:30,343 --> 01:05:32,943 NARRATOR: After the interview, McCain was beaten 1127 01:05:33,043 --> 01:05:37,110 for not expressing sufficient gratitude to his captors. 1128 01:05:43,144 --> 01:05:44,811 (soldiers conversing) 1129 01:05:44,911 --> 01:05:49,345 NARRATOR: All through the fall of 1967, the North Vietnamese 1130 01:05:49,445 --> 01:05:53,179 and the Viet Cong continued their series of "Border Battles" 1131 01:05:53,279 --> 01:05:55,812 in preparation for their surprise offensive, 1132 01:05:55,912 --> 01:05:57,846 still months away. 1133 01:05:57,946 --> 01:06:01,747 Con Thien, where John Musgrave was wounded, 1134 01:06:01,847 --> 01:06:03,313 had been the first. 1135 01:06:03,413 --> 01:06:07,148 Then came the ARVN base at Song Be. 1136 01:06:07,248 --> 01:06:09,714 The South Vietnamese outpost adjacent to 1137 01:06:09,814 --> 01:06:12,948 the provincial capital of Loc Ninh was next. 1138 01:06:13,048 --> 01:06:15,982 There, large units of North Vietnamese 1139 01:06:16,082 --> 01:06:19,882 and Viet Cong regulars mounted a coordinated attack, 1140 01:06:19,982 --> 01:06:23,350 and then fought for five days to hold on to the ground 1141 01:06:23,450 --> 01:06:27,316 they'd gained, something they had never done before. 1142 01:06:27,416 --> 01:06:31,017 American commanders were puzzled. 1143 01:06:31,117 --> 01:06:35,752 Then, in early November, reports reached MACV 1144 01:06:35,852 --> 01:06:38,118 that five North Vietnamese regiments 1145 01:06:38,218 --> 01:06:42,519 and a Viet Cong battalion-- some 7,000 men in all-- 1146 01:06:42,619 --> 01:06:45,219 had begun massing in the Central Highlands 1147 01:06:45,319 --> 01:06:49,987 around the U.S. Special Forces camp at Dak To again. 1148 01:06:50,087 --> 01:06:54,720 Among the North Vietnamese regulars was Nguyen Thanh Son, 1149 01:06:54,820 --> 01:06:58,121 who had been so eager to fight that he too had filled 1150 01:06:58,221 --> 01:07:02,321 his pockets with rocks to pass his physical. 1151 01:07:03,488 --> 01:07:06,222 NGUYEN THANH SON: 1152 01:07:16,456 --> 01:07:19,924 NARRATOR: As the NVA deployed their troops, 1153 01:07:20,024 --> 01:07:22,957 Westmoreland sent his to Dak To, 1154 01:07:23,058 --> 01:07:26,625 exactly what the enemy wanted him to do. 1155 01:07:26,725 --> 01:07:31,958 Among the Americans were the men of the elite 173rd Airborne, 1156 01:07:32,059 --> 01:07:35,660 Westmoreland's Fire Brigade. 1157 01:07:40,061 --> 01:07:44,261 MATT HARRISON: We all knew in a general sense that we wouldn't be brought back 1158 01:07:44,361 --> 01:07:47,295 if there wasn't something big going on. 1159 01:07:47,395 --> 01:07:52,828 You just knew that the area was crawling with North Vietnamese, 1160 01:07:52,928 --> 01:07:57,462 and that they were there not to avoid contact with us, 1161 01:07:57,563 --> 01:08:00,296 but they were there to have contact with us. 1162 01:08:01,696 --> 01:08:03,963 NARRATOR: First Lieutenant Matthew Harrison was now 1163 01:08:04,064 --> 01:08:06,830 with Alpha Company of the 2nd Battalion, 1164 01:08:06,930 --> 01:08:09,465 the same rifle company that had been ambushed 1165 01:08:09,565 --> 01:08:14,798 and so badly shattered back in June on the slopes of Hill 1338, 1166 01:08:14,898 --> 01:08:17,566 just 14 miles to the east. 1167 01:08:17,666 --> 01:08:21,299 HARRISON: This wasn't like the Viet Cong where if you could find them, 1168 01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:22,666 you could kill them. 1169 01:08:22,766 --> 01:08:24,067 Our problem wasn't finding them. 1170 01:08:24,167 --> 01:08:26,400 Our problem was what to do with them once you found them. 1171 01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:31,668 NARRATOR: The 174th NVA Regiment was waiting. 1172 01:08:31,768 --> 01:08:35,568 Nguyen Thanh Son and his men were already dug in 1173 01:08:35,668 --> 01:08:38,735 on the high ground they knew the Americans would want 1174 01:08:38,835 --> 01:08:43,569 to command: Hill 875. 1175 01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:45,770 NGUYEN THANH SON: 1176 01:09:04,738 --> 01:09:09,973 NARRATOR: On Sunday morning, November 19, 1967, 1177 01:09:10,073 --> 01:09:13,573 Alpha, Charlie, and Delta Companies were ordered 1178 01:09:13,673 --> 01:09:16,574 to take Hill 875. 1179 01:09:16,674 --> 01:09:20,140 Matt Harrison had been wounded in an earlier fight 1180 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,075 and was not permitted to accompany his men. 1181 01:09:23,175 --> 01:09:27,475 He anxiously followed their progress over the radio. 1182 01:09:27,575 --> 01:09:32,276 Heavy artillery and flights of F-100s blasted the hillside 1183 01:09:32,376 --> 01:09:36,210 ahead of them, meant to knock out enemy positions 1184 01:09:36,310 --> 01:09:39,510 before the paratroopers ever got within range. 1185 01:09:41,143 --> 01:09:43,311 NGUYEN THANH SON: 1186 01:09:56,379 --> 01:09:58,780 NARRATOR: The three companies moved up the slope, 1187 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,313 Charlie and Delta in the lead, 1188 01:10:01,413 --> 01:10:04,613 Alpha bringing up the rear. 1189 01:10:04,713 --> 01:10:08,181 The paratroopers stepped warily into a clearing 1190 01:10:08,281 --> 01:10:11,514 filled with fallen trees from the morning's bombardment 1191 01:10:11,614 --> 01:10:16,415 and only a little over 300 yards from the summit. 1192 01:10:17,182 --> 01:10:20,383 NGUYEN THANH SON: 1193 01:10:29,850 --> 01:10:31,517 (gunfire) 1194 01:10:31,617 --> 01:10:34,618 NARRATOR: Thousands of automatic weapon rounds ripped through the air. 1195 01:10:34,718 --> 01:10:37,785 Chinese-made grenades came rolling and bumping 1196 01:10:37,885 --> 01:10:39,285 down the slopes. 1197 01:10:39,385 --> 01:10:43,619 The Americans sought cover where they could behind fallen trees, 1198 01:10:43,719 --> 01:10:46,319 scrabbled at the earth with their helmets, 1199 01:10:46,419 --> 01:10:48,620 trying to dig fighting holes. 1200 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,453 (gunfire) 1201 01:10:51,553 --> 01:10:52,920 (soldiers yelling) 1202 01:10:53,020 --> 01:10:55,320 (rapid gunfire) 1203 01:10:55,420 --> 01:10:58,321 Charlie and Delta companies were pinned down 1204 01:10:58,421 --> 01:11:01,321 and being torn to pieces. 1205 01:11:01,421 --> 01:11:02,654 (gunfire) 1206 01:11:02,754 --> 01:11:04,589 Meanwhile, near the foot of the hill, 1207 01:11:04,689 --> 01:11:07,789 other North Vietnamese troops surprised Alpha Company 1208 01:11:07,889 --> 01:11:09,222 from behind. 1209 01:11:09,322 --> 01:11:12,390 They were first spotted moving up through the trees 1210 01:11:12,490 --> 01:11:16,190 by a private from the Bronx named Carlos Lozada. 1211 01:11:16,290 --> 01:11:19,457 As the men of his company scrambled up the slope, 1212 01:11:19,557 --> 01:11:21,357 dragging their wounded with them, 1213 01:11:21,457 --> 01:11:24,024 Lozada provided what cover he could, 1214 01:11:24,124 --> 01:11:26,892 firing his M-60 machine gun from his hip-- 1215 01:11:26,992 --> 01:11:29,725 before a bullet hit him in the head. 1216 01:11:31,092 --> 01:11:35,926 He would be awarded a posthumous Medal of Honor. 1217 01:11:36,026 --> 01:11:39,927 Back home, the battle led the nightly news. 1218 01:11:40,027 --> 01:11:41,627 (helicopter humming) 1219 01:11:41,727 --> 01:11:44,627 WALTER CRONKITE: The Battle of Dak To is now on its 19th day, 1220 01:11:44,727 --> 01:11:47,028 and already ranks among the bloodiest campaigns 1221 01:11:47,128 --> 01:11:48,561 of the Vietnam War. 1222 01:11:48,661 --> 01:11:50,295 There's no sign yet of any let-up. 1223 01:11:50,395 --> 01:11:51,928 Over the weekend, three companies 1224 01:11:52,028 --> 01:11:56,029 of the 173rd Airborne Brigade moved down this river valley, 1225 01:11:56,129 --> 01:11:59,029 up which North Vietnamese normally infiltrate, 1226 01:11:59,129 --> 01:12:02,197 until they got down here by Hill 875. 1227 01:12:02,297 --> 01:12:04,630 Then, they came under heavy fire from the hill. 1228 01:12:04,730 --> 01:12:06,830 Two of the three companies charged the hill, 1229 01:12:06,930 --> 01:12:08,798 the other stayed back as a rear guard. 1230 01:12:08,898 --> 01:12:10,231 They found a... 1231 01:12:10,331 --> 01:12:13,464 HARRISON: By early afternoon, the three companies 1232 01:12:13,564 --> 01:12:15,832 had basically been decapitated. 1233 01:12:15,932 --> 01:12:17,732 The company commanders were dead; 1234 01:12:17,832 --> 01:12:20,899 most of the officers and most of the NCOs were dead. 1235 01:12:20,999 --> 01:12:22,700 (soldiers yelling) 1236 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,500 NARRATOR: The survivors from all three companies clustered 1237 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,300 in the clearing and did their best to set up 1238 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,067 a defensive circle. 1239 01:12:30,167 --> 01:12:34,801 American bombs and napalm pounded enemy positions 1240 01:12:34,901 --> 01:12:38,402 until it grew almost too dark to see. 1241 01:12:39,368 --> 01:12:41,268 NGUYEN THANH SON: 1242 01:13:06,672 --> 01:13:11,506 NARRATOR: Then, another American plane roared in and dropped two bombs. 1243 01:13:11,606 --> 01:13:14,607 One landed among the hidden enemy troops. 1244 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:20,408 The other fell directly on the Americans. 1245 01:13:20,508 --> 01:13:25,308 In a fraction of a second, 42 were killed. 1246 01:13:25,408 --> 01:13:29,342 A badly hit lieutenant managed to find a working radio. 1247 01:13:29,442 --> 01:13:32,875 "No more fucking planes," he shouted into it. 1248 01:13:32,975 --> 01:13:35,710 "You're killingus up here." 1249 01:13:35,810 --> 01:13:37,176 (explosion) 1250 01:13:37,276 --> 01:13:39,543 The fighting on the hillside continued. 1251 01:13:39,643 --> 01:13:44,077 The men ran out of water, began to run out of ammunition. 1252 01:13:44,177 --> 01:13:48,911 Helicopters that tried to ferry in supplies were shot down. 1253 01:13:50,278 --> 01:13:57,379 The following day, Matt Harrison was able to chopper in. 1254 01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,079 HARRISON: It was chaos. 1255 01:13:59,179 --> 01:14:01,979 It was collections of guys who had who had tunneled 1256 01:14:02,079 --> 01:14:04,280 and dug down behind trees. 1257 01:14:04,380 --> 01:14:07,814 These were guys who had gone without water in that heat 1258 01:14:07,914 --> 01:14:09,414 for two days. 1259 01:14:09,514 --> 01:14:13,515 And almost every one of them was wounded. 1260 01:14:13,615 --> 01:14:17,648 And then all around were bodies, 1261 01:14:17,748 --> 01:14:22,049 guys who had been shot and blown up. 1262 01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:23,782 It was the third circle of hell. 1263 01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:31,017 NARRATOR: On November 23, two fresh battalions of the 173rd 1264 01:14:31,117 --> 01:14:33,651 finally made it to the top of the hill, 1265 01:14:33,751 --> 01:14:36,584 for which so many had died. 1266 01:14:36,684 --> 01:14:38,451 But the night before, 1267 01:14:38,551 --> 01:14:41,452 the surviving North Vietnamese troops had slipped down 1268 01:14:41,552 --> 01:14:47,786 the other side and disappeared into Cambodia and Laos. 1269 01:14:47,886 --> 01:14:50,520 The powers that be decided it would be important 1270 01:14:50,620 --> 01:14:55,087 to our morale for us to be in on the taking the top of the hill. 1271 01:14:55,187 --> 01:15:00,421 I had 26 guys left out of a company that started out of 140, 1272 01:15:00,521 --> 01:15:03,188 and all 26 had been wounded. 1273 01:15:03,288 --> 01:15:07,588 NARRATOR: Then Harrison and his exhausted men were helicoptered 1274 01:15:07,688 --> 01:15:09,456 to the top of yet another hill. 1275 01:15:09,556 --> 01:15:11,256 (helicopter blades whirring) 1276 01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:17,424 It was Thanksgiving. 1277 01:15:17,524 --> 01:15:20,790 Chinook helicopters clattered down out of the sky, 1278 01:15:20,890 --> 01:15:24,525 carrying huge containers of hot turkey and mashed potatoes 1279 01:15:24,625 --> 01:15:29,125 and cranberry sauce so that the 173rd could have 1280 01:15:29,225 --> 01:15:31,159 their Thanksgiving dinner. 1281 01:15:31,259 --> 01:15:33,826 If there are any more remote or dangerous spots 1282 01:15:33,926 --> 01:15:35,892 to spend Thanksgiving Day in Vietnam than this one, 1283 01:15:35,992 --> 01:15:38,127 then most of these men have never seen them. 1284 01:15:38,227 --> 01:15:41,627 HARRISON: There was a TV cameraman and reporter off to the side 1285 01:15:41,727 --> 01:15:43,327 using us as a backdrop. 1286 01:15:43,427 --> 01:15:46,128 And I remember hearing the reporter intone, 1287 01:15:46,228 --> 01:15:49,294 "Today is November 23, Thanksgiving Day," 1288 01:15:49,394 --> 01:15:53,162 and I was really angry. 1289 01:15:53,262 --> 01:15:57,162 It's as though we were entertainers. 1290 01:15:58,662 --> 01:16:04,463 NARRATOR: 107 Americans had died taking Hill 875; 1291 01:16:04,563 --> 01:16:07,431 another 282 were wounded. 1292 01:16:07,531 --> 01:16:09,264 Ten more were missing. 1293 01:16:09,364 --> 01:16:13,197 The number of North Vietnamese casualties is unknown, 1294 01:16:13,297 --> 01:16:17,265 but their losses are thought to have been staggering. 1295 01:16:18,832 --> 01:16:23,199 Back in June, Matt Harrison had lost two West Point classmates 1296 01:16:23,299 --> 01:16:25,933 on Hill 1338. 1297 01:16:26,033 --> 01:16:29,067 He lost two more on Hill 875. 1298 01:16:29,167 --> 01:16:32,800 Of the eight with whom he had served in the 2nd Battalion, 1299 01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:37,201 four were now dead and two had been wounded. 1300 01:16:39,768 --> 01:16:43,236 HARRISON: To take tops of mountains in a triple canopy jungle 1301 01:16:43,336 --> 01:16:46,469 along the Cambodian-Laotian border accomplished nothing 1302 01:16:46,569 --> 01:16:48,736 of any importance. 1303 01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:55,037 The Battle for Hill 875 was, in my thinking today, 1304 01:16:55,137 --> 01:16:58,504 a microcosm of what we were doing and what went wrong 1305 01:16:58,604 --> 01:17:00,038 in Vietnam. 1306 01:17:00,138 --> 01:17:03,871 There was no reason to take that hill. 1307 01:17:03,971 --> 01:17:07,672 We literally got to the top of the hill 1308 01:17:07,772 --> 01:17:14,540 about mid-day on November 23 and sat there for, 1309 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,473 I don't know, half an hour, an hour, 1310 01:17:16,573 --> 01:17:20,541 just kind of gathering ourselves and everything together. 1311 01:17:20,641 --> 01:17:23,907 Chinooks came in, took us off the hill. 1312 01:17:24,007 --> 01:17:27,875 And I doubt that there's been an American on Hill 875 1313 01:17:27,975 --> 01:17:30,042 since November 23. 1314 01:17:30,142 --> 01:17:32,408 We accomplished nothing. 1315 01:17:32,508 --> 01:17:36,043 WILLIAM WESTMORELAND: A new phase is now starting. 1316 01:17:36,143 --> 01:17:39,076 We have reached an important point when the end 1317 01:17:39,176 --> 01:17:41,444 begins to come into view. 1318 01:17:43,144 --> 01:17:46,710 NARRATOR: As Matt Harrison and his men fought for Hill 875, 1319 01:17:46,810 --> 01:17:49,445 the Johnson administration was in the midst 1320 01:17:49,545 --> 01:17:51,345 of a "Success Offensive," 1321 01:17:51,445 --> 01:17:56,312 a PR campaign aimed at shoring up support for the war 1322 01:17:56,412 --> 01:17:58,912 and the way it was being waged. 1323 01:17:59,012 --> 01:18:03,313 MACV released a new and surprisingly low estimate 1324 01:18:03,413 --> 01:18:07,347 of enemy forces to show how much damage the United States 1325 01:18:07,447 --> 01:18:08,813 had done to them. 1326 01:18:08,913 --> 01:18:13,281 It was only two-thirds of the total suggested by the CIA, 1327 01:18:13,381 --> 01:18:15,814 because, after a bitter and prolonged debate 1328 01:18:15,914 --> 01:18:18,782 behind the scenes, Westmoreland had chosen 1329 01:18:18,882 --> 01:18:21,949 to exclude from it the part-time guerrillas-- 1330 01:18:22,049 --> 01:18:26,083 farmers, old men, women, even children-- 1331 01:18:26,183 --> 01:18:29,916 who helped place the mines, grenades, and booby traps 1332 01:18:30,016 --> 01:18:32,084 that accounted for more than a third 1333 01:18:32,184 --> 01:18:34,717 of all American casualties. 1334 01:18:34,817 --> 01:18:37,851 General Westmoreland also told the press 1335 01:18:37,951 --> 01:18:41,485 that the impressive body counts his commanders reported 1336 01:18:41,585 --> 01:18:44,185 were "very, very conservative." 1337 01:18:44,285 --> 01:18:46,753 It probably represented, he said, 1338 01:18:46,853 --> 01:18:51,419 "50 percent or even less of the enemy that has been killed." 1339 01:18:51,519 --> 01:18:55,220 Ambassador Ellsworth Bunker joined the chorus, 1340 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:59,020 using a metaphor first used 13 years earlier 1341 01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,655 by the French commander in Vietnam, 1342 01:19:01,755 --> 01:19:06,321 not long before their great defeat at Dien Bien Phu. 1343 01:19:06,421 --> 01:19:09,656 And I think we're now beginning to see light 1344 01:19:09,756 --> 01:19:11,122 at the end of the tunnel. 1345 01:19:11,222 --> 01:19:14,356 Mr. Ambassador, you talk about light at the end of the tunnel. 1346 01:19:14,456 --> 01:19:15,990 How long is this tunnel? 1347 01:19:16,090 --> 01:19:18,657 Well, I don't think that you can put it 1348 01:19:18,757 --> 01:19:24,558 into any particular timeframe, a situation like this. 1349 01:19:26,091 --> 01:19:30,425 NARRATOR: LBJ's Success Offensive succeeded. 1350 01:19:30,525 --> 01:19:33,859 The number of Americans who believed the United States 1351 01:19:33,959 --> 01:19:38,626 was making real progress in the war grew. 1352 01:19:38,726 --> 01:19:42,060 Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara 1353 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:46,227 did not take part in the public relations campaign. 1354 01:19:46,327 --> 01:19:49,961 He had become so disillusioned with the war he'd done so much 1355 01:19:50,061 --> 01:19:52,562 to plan and prosecute that he wrote 1356 01:19:52,662 --> 01:19:54,995 another secret memo to the president, 1357 01:19:55,095 --> 01:19:59,029 advising Johnson to freeze American troop levels, 1358 01:19:59,129 --> 01:20:02,763 turn over ground operations to the South Vietnamese, 1359 01:20:02,863 --> 01:20:05,263 and halt the bombing of North Vietnam 1360 01:20:05,363 --> 01:20:08,364 "in order to bring about negotiations." 1361 01:20:08,464 --> 01:20:12,097 There was no reason to believe, McNamara wrote, 1362 01:20:12,197 --> 01:20:15,898 that the prolonged "infliction of grievous casualties, 1363 01:20:15,998 --> 01:20:18,665 "or the heavy punishment of air bombardment, 1364 01:20:18,765 --> 01:20:21,732 "will suffice to break the will of the North Vietnamese 1365 01:20:21,832 --> 01:20:23,266 "and Viet Cong. 1366 01:20:23,366 --> 01:20:26,499 "The continuation of our present course of action 1367 01:20:26,599 --> 01:20:31,467 "in Southeast Asia would be dangerous, costly in lives, 1368 01:20:31,567 --> 01:20:34,801 and unsatisfactory to the American people." 1369 01:20:34,901 --> 01:20:38,101 Johnson never responded. 1370 01:20:38,201 --> 01:20:41,234 Instead, he arranged for McNamara to become 1371 01:20:41,334 --> 01:20:44,269 the president of the World Bank. 1372 01:20:44,369 --> 01:20:48,202 McNamara would keep silent about the doubts he had harbored 1373 01:20:48,302 --> 01:20:50,403 since the beginning of the ground war 1374 01:20:50,503 --> 01:20:54,003 for the next 28 years. 1375 01:20:54,103 --> 01:20:57,104 His successor as defense secretary would be 1376 01:20:57,204 --> 01:20:58,437 Clark Clifford, 1377 01:20:58,537 --> 01:21:02,104 a prominent Washington lawyer and trusted counselor 1378 01:21:02,204 --> 01:21:05,672 to Democratic presidents, whom Johnson was sure would be 1379 01:21:05,772 --> 01:21:07,505 supportive of the war. 1380 01:21:07,605 --> 01:21:09,672 Students of Harvard... 1381 01:21:09,772 --> 01:21:13,073 NARRATOR: Meanwhile, Allard Lowenstein's yearlong search 1382 01:21:13,173 --> 01:21:15,606 for a Democratic challenger to the president 1383 01:21:15,706 --> 01:21:17,739 had finally succeeded. 1384 01:21:17,839 --> 01:21:23,807 On November 30, 1967, Minnesota senator Eugene McCarthy 1385 01:21:23,907 --> 01:21:25,775 announced that he would run. 1386 01:21:25,875 --> 01:21:28,508 This is an issue which has to be taken 1387 01:21:28,608 --> 01:21:32,041 to the people of the country in the campaign of 1968. 1388 01:21:32,141 --> 01:21:33,176 (crowd cheers) 1389 01:21:35,242 --> 01:21:38,242 NARRATOR: By the end of 1967, 1390 01:21:38,342 --> 01:21:43,810 20,057 Americans had died in Vietnam. 1391 01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:47,178 The time had come, General Westmoreland said, 1392 01:21:47,278 --> 01:21:51,144 for an "all-out offensive on all fronts." 1393 01:21:54,779 --> 01:21:58,412 But the enemy was just a month away from launching 1394 01:21:58,512 --> 01:22:01,545 an all-out offensive of its own. 1395 01:22:02,980 --> 01:22:04,880 ("Paint in Black" by the Rolling Stones playing) 1396 01:22:16,648 --> 01:22:22,548 ♪ I see a red door and I want it painted black ♪ 1397 01:22:22,648 --> 01:22:28,549 ♪ No colors anymore, I want them to turn black ♪ 1398 01:22:28,649 --> 01:22:30,850 ♪ I see the girls walk by 1399 01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:34,650 ♪ Dressed in their summer clothes ♪ 1400 01:22:34,750 --> 01:22:40,851 ♪ I have to turn my head until my darkness goes ♪ 1401 01:22:40,951 --> 01:22:46,652 ♪ I see a line of cars and they're all painted black ♪ 1402 01:22:46,752 --> 01:22:52,653 ♪ With flowers and my love, both never to come back ♪ 1403 01:22:52,753 --> 01:22:58,720 ♪ I see people turn their heads and quickly look away ♪ 1404 01:22:58,820 --> 01:23:04,888 ♪ Like a newborn baby, it just happens every day ♪ 1405 01:23:04,988 --> 01:23:10,889 ♪ I look inside myself and see my heart is black ♪ 1406 01:23:10,989 --> 01:23:16,890 ♪ I see my red door and must have it painted black ♪ 1407 01:23:16,990 --> 01:23:22,924 ♪ Maybe then I'll fade away and not have to face the facts ♪ 1408 01:23:23,024 --> 01:23:29,125 ♪ It's not easy facing up when your whole world is black ♪ 1409 01:23:29,225 --> 01:23:35,358 ♪ No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue ♪ 1410 01:23:35,458 --> 01:23:41,593 ♪ I could not foresee this thing happening to you ♪ 1411 01:23:41,693 --> 01:23:47,494 ♪ If I look hard enough into the setting sun ♪ 1412 01:23:47,594 --> 01:23:53,561 ♪ My love will laugh with me before the morning comes ♪ 1413 01:23:53,661 --> 01:23:59,629 ♪ I see a red door and I want it painted black ♪ 1414 01:23:59,729 --> 01:24:05,663 ♪ No colors anymore, I want them to turn black ♪ 1415 01:24:05,763 --> 01:24:07,797 ♪ I see the girls walk by 1416 01:24:07,897 --> 01:24:11,730 ♪ Dressed in their summer clothes ♪ 1417 01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:17,831 ♪ I have to turn my head until my darkness goes ♪ 1418 01:24:17,931 --> 01:24:22,665 (humming) 1419 01:24:22,765 --> 01:24:24,132 ♪ I wanna see it painted 1420 01:24:24,232 --> 01:24:27,933 ♪ Painted, painted, painted black ♪ 1421 01:24:28,033 --> 01:24:29,933 ♪ Yeah. 1422 01:24:30,033 --> 01:24:54,236 (humming) 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