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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,000 - Original file by zfeet - - Resynced by Ornlu Wolfjarl - 2 00:00:18,866 --> 00:00:22,433 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: Sometimes I would hear a car crunch up in the snow, 3 00:00:22,533 --> 00:00:24,866 and I'd think maybe it would be somebody coming 4 00:00:24,965 --> 00:00:26,433 to give us bad news. 5 00:00:26,533 --> 00:00:29,465 Which was not good for me to think. 6 00:00:29,565 --> 00:00:31,466 It was an underlying anxiety 7 00:00:31,566 --> 00:00:34,466 that I really think was there all the time. 8 00:00:36,034 --> 00:00:39,000 NARRATOR: All his young life, Denton Crocker, Jr.... 9 00:00:39,101 --> 00:00:41,301 known as "Mogie" to his family... 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,434 had dreamed of serving his country, 11 00:00:43,534 --> 00:00:45,801 of putting his own life on the line 12 00:00:45,900 --> 00:00:49,733 in defense of what he called "individual freedom." 13 00:00:49,834 --> 00:00:53,802 He'd wanted to serve in Vietnam so much 14 00:00:53,901 --> 00:00:56,935 he'd pressured his parents into granting their permission 15 00:00:57,035 --> 00:01:00,067 for him to join the Army before he was 18. 16 00:01:02,467 --> 00:01:06,102 He was eager for combat and pleased when he was assigned 17 00:01:06,202 --> 00:01:10,535 to the 1st Brigade of the celebrated 101st Airborne, 18 00:01:10,634 --> 00:01:14,834 the "Screaming Eagles" who had led the way on D-Day. 19 00:01:14,935 --> 00:01:18,703 But he was quickly disappointed to find himself attached 20 00:01:18,803 --> 00:01:23,703 to battalion headquarters, repairing weapons, making lists, 21 00:01:23,803 --> 00:01:25,568 keeping records. 22 00:01:25,668 --> 00:01:29,168 It was "boring," he wrote home. 23 00:01:29,269 --> 00:01:32,509 MOGIE CROCKER (dramatized): I think perhaps you will understand my disappointment 24 00:01:32,536 --> 00:01:35,336 when you see that there is little sense in being over here 25 00:01:35,436 --> 00:01:37,635 unless one faces the main objective, 26 00:01:37,735 --> 00:01:40,304 the destruction of the VC. 27 00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:44,937 Certainly one feels no sense of accomplishment 28 00:01:45,037 --> 00:01:47,736 when one's friends are facing all the dangers. 29 00:01:51,069 --> 00:01:54,270 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: I had a map on the back of the living room door. 30 00:01:54,370 --> 00:01:58,304 And I put pins in it every time Denton Jr. moved. 31 00:01:58,403 --> 00:01:59,837 And he moved a lot. 32 00:02:01,105 --> 00:02:03,470 And I knew those names at one time 33 00:02:03,570 --> 00:02:08,771 as well as any area of our own world. 34 00:02:19,871 --> 00:02:22,237 LYNDON JOHNSON: Well, how'd you have a good weekend? 35 00:02:22,337 --> 00:02:23,338 ROBERT McNAMARA: (laughs) 36 00:02:23,405 --> 00:02:24,706 Yeah, I did, Mr. President. 37 00:02:24,806 --> 00:02:26,005 I hope you did too. 38 00:02:26,106 --> 00:02:27,614 JOHNSON: What's your thinking these days? 39 00:02:27,638 --> 00:02:28,906 I haven't talked to you. 40 00:02:29,005 --> 00:02:30,306 What's happening to our pause? 41 00:02:30,406 --> 00:02:31,839 What are our generals saying? 42 00:02:31,938 --> 00:02:34,371 McNAMARA: See, I think you'll find some foreign leaders 43 00:02:34,471 --> 00:02:37,272 will criticize you if you resume bombing. 44 00:02:37,371 --> 00:02:40,971 As a matter of fact, no other intelligence source 45 00:02:41,072 --> 00:02:44,106 that I've seen indicates that Hanoi is even considering 46 00:02:44,205 --> 00:02:45,906 moving toward negotiation 47 00:02:46,006 --> 00:02:48,139 in order to lead us to extend the pause. 48 00:02:48,239 --> 00:02:49,672 Intelligence information... 49 00:02:49,773 --> 00:02:53,573 NARRATOR: As 1966 began, the president of the United States 50 00:02:53,672 --> 00:02:56,073 was just learning the name of the man 51 00:02:56,172 --> 00:03:00,439 who was the most powerful member of the Politburo in Hanoi... 52 00:03:00,540 --> 00:03:02,040 Le Duan. 53 00:03:02,139 --> 00:03:03,982 McNAMARA: ...First Secretary of the Communist Party, 54 00:03:04,006 --> 00:03:07,139 a man named Le Duan... L-E capital D-U-A-N... 55 00:03:07,239 --> 00:03:09,608 who today is putting considerable pressure 56 00:03:09,707 --> 00:03:13,240 on Ho Chi Minh and others to ensure continuing a war 57 00:03:13,341 --> 00:03:15,740 that he thinks they either are winning or can win. 58 00:03:15,841 --> 00:03:17,761 ("Masters of War" by The Staple Singers playing) 59 00:03:17,841 --> 00:03:20,240 ♪ They're masters of war 60 00:03:23,007 --> 00:03:28,173 ♪ You build all the big guns 61 00:03:28,274 --> 00:03:29,774 ♪ You build the big planes. ♪ 62 00:03:29,873 --> 00:03:31,617 NARRATOR: As they continued to escalate the war, 63 00:03:31,641 --> 00:03:34,508 Johnson and McNamara were frustrated 64 00:03:34,609 --> 00:03:38,542 that American commanders in Vietnam, who had come of age 65 00:03:38,641 --> 00:03:40,974 during World War II and Korea, 66 00:03:41,075 --> 00:03:43,208 were having a hard time making sense 67 00:03:43,309 --> 00:03:45,708 of what was happening on the ground. 68 00:03:45,809 --> 00:03:50,941 In the months and years to come, as the American presence grew, 69 00:03:51,042 --> 00:03:53,342 Hanoi would escalate too, 70 00:03:53,441 --> 00:03:56,242 sending more and more soldiers south, 71 00:03:56,343 --> 00:03:59,509 strengthening its own air defenses, 72 00:03:59,610 --> 00:04:01,742 and recruiting more fighters 73 00:04:01,843 --> 00:04:05,242 from the alienated South Vietnamese countryside. 74 00:04:09,076 --> 00:04:12,076 The Johnson administration was desperately trying 75 00:04:12,175 --> 00:04:16,310 to prop up the government in Saigon and, at the same time, 76 00:04:16,410 --> 00:04:19,611 help that government to somehow win the loyalty 77 00:04:19,710 --> 00:04:21,577 of its own people. 78 00:04:21,676 --> 00:04:25,743 Johnson had tried to forge an international coalition 79 00:04:25,844 --> 00:04:28,144 to defend South Vietnam. 80 00:04:28,243 --> 00:04:33,344 But only five other countries would ever send combat troops... 81 00:04:33,443 --> 00:04:37,344 Australia and New Zealand, Thailand, the Philippines, 82 00:04:37,443 --> 00:04:39,377 and South Korea. 83 00:04:40,912 --> 00:04:45,477 America's most important allies, Britain, France and Canada, 84 00:04:45,578 --> 00:04:51,578 refused to take part and were calling instead for peace talks. 85 00:04:51,677 --> 00:04:54,345 And more and more Americans, 86 00:04:54,444 --> 00:04:57,177 including some of the country's most respected 87 00:04:57,278 --> 00:04:59,112 foreign policy experts, 88 00:04:59,211 --> 00:05:02,712 were beginning to question the way the war was being fought, 89 00:05:02,813 --> 00:05:05,046 whether it could ever be won, 90 00:05:05,145 --> 00:05:10,079 and if the United States should be in Vietnam at all. 91 00:05:11,212 --> 00:05:12,613 (explosion) 92 00:05:12,712 --> 00:05:20,512 As 1966 began, 2,344 Americans had died in Vietnam. 93 00:05:20,613 --> 00:05:23,478 Nearly 200,000 were stationed there, 94 00:05:23,579 --> 00:05:26,647 and more were on their way. 95 00:05:28,114 --> 00:05:30,547 Those soldiers would quickly discover 96 00:05:30,646 --> 00:05:32,879 that the war they were being asked to fight 97 00:05:32,979 --> 00:05:35,679 was not their father's war. 98 00:05:38,547 --> 00:05:41,814 SAM WILSON: We tend to fight the next war 99 00:05:41,914 --> 00:05:44,780 in the same way we fought the last one. 100 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,048 We are prisoners of our own experience. 101 00:05:49,147 --> 00:05:51,548 And many of the things that we learned that worked 102 00:05:51,647 --> 00:05:52,714 in World War II 103 00:05:52,815 --> 00:05:56,315 were not applicable to the war in Vietnam. 104 00:05:58,180 --> 00:06:00,315 We simply thought we'd go in with a sledgehammer 105 00:06:00,415 --> 00:06:02,081 and knock things down, clean them up, 106 00:06:02,180 --> 00:06:04,048 and it would be all over. 107 00:06:04,147 --> 00:06:07,615 It was a kind of an oversimplification 108 00:06:07,714 --> 00:06:09,447 of the problem 109 00:06:09,548 --> 00:06:13,849 combined with our overconfidence that caused us, 110 00:06:13,948 --> 00:06:16,481 I think, to be arrogant. 111 00:06:16,582 --> 00:06:19,881 And it's very, very difficult to dispel ignorance 112 00:06:19,981 --> 00:06:22,149 if you retain arrogance. 113 00:06:22,248 --> 00:06:27,381 STAPLES SINGERS: ♪ I'll stand over your body and make sure that you're dead. ♪ 114 00:06:35,649 --> 00:06:37,016 (gavel pounding) 115 00:06:38,417 --> 00:06:41,382 NARRATOR: In early February of 1966, 116 00:06:41,482 --> 00:06:44,549 President Johnson got more bad news. 117 00:06:44,649 --> 00:06:47,450 His old friend, J. William Fulbright, 118 00:06:47,549 --> 00:06:48,615 the powerful chairman 119 00:06:48,716 --> 00:06:51,216 of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, 120 00:06:51,317 --> 00:06:54,417 planned to hold hearings on the Vietnam War, 121 00:06:54,517 --> 00:06:59,018 and the television networks intended to cover the hearings 122 00:06:59,117 --> 00:07:00,918 from gavel to gavel. 123 00:07:01,018 --> 00:07:04,451 Fulbright, who had once supported the war, 124 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:06,451 now opposed it. 125 00:07:06,550 --> 00:07:09,818 LBJ was alarmed. 126 00:07:09,918 --> 00:07:12,750 His own advisers had been giving him conflicting advice 127 00:07:12,851 --> 00:07:15,351 about Vietnam for years. 128 00:07:15,451 --> 00:07:18,519 But a public debate about how he was running the war 129 00:07:18,618 --> 00:07:22,651 in front of millions of Americans filled him with dread. 130 00:07:24,452 --> 00:07:26,718 As the hearings got underway, 131 00:07:26,819 --> 00:07:28,485 the president tried to deflect attention 132 00:07:28,584 --> 00:07:32,319 by suddenly announcing he was going to a military conference 133 00:07:32,419 --> 00:07:36,618 in Honolulu, to meet for the first time the two generals 134 00:07:36,718 --> 00:07:39,485 who now headed the Saigon government. 135 00:07:39,584 --> 00:07:41,296 ED HERLIHY: It is a meeting without precedent, 136 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,119 and is designed to strengthen United States determination 137 00:07:44,219 --> 00:07:47,685 to pursue to the end the drive against communist domination 138 00:07:47,786 --> 00:07:49,152 in South Vietnam. 139 00:07:53,219 --> 00:07:56,652 NARRATOR: General Nguyen Van Thieu was the chief of state, 140 00:07:56,752 --> 00:08:00,219 but real power lay with Thieu's bitter rival, 141 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,521 the former head of the South Vietnamese Air Force, 142 00:08:03,620 --> 00:08:06,686 Prime Minister Nguyen Cao Ky. 143 00:08:06,787 --> 00:08:11,586 Ky was "an unguided missile," according to one U.S. diplomat, 144 00:08:11,686 --> 00:08:14,387 known for his flamboyant uniforms, 145 00:08:14,487 --> 00:08:18,521 his gaudy private life, and his public pronouncements. 146 00:08:18,620 --> 00:08:22,887 He once told a reporter that what Vietnam really needed 147 00:08:22,987 --> 00:08:25,421 was "five Hitlers." 148 00:08:25,522 --> 00:08:29,187 PHAN QUANG TUE: How could we allow and accept that to happen? 149 00:08:29,288 --> 00:08:31,221 He was a charlatan. 150 00:08:31,322 --> 00:08:33,888 The man not only has no training, 151 00:08:33,988 --> 00:08:37,054 has no education, but doesn't seem to inter... 152 00:08:37,154 --> 00:08:42,621 be interested in being educated, and proud of his ignorance. 153 00:09:16,024 --> 00:09:19,324 NARRATOR: President Johnson spent most of his time in Honolulu 154 00:09:19,424 --> 00:09:22,623 urging Ky to focus on pacification... 155 00:09:22,723 --> 00:09:25,756 earning the support of the South Vietnamese people 156 00:09:25,857 --> 00:09:29,123 by undertaking economic and social reforms 157 00:09:29,223 --> 00:09:33,290 Americans had been calling for for more than a decade. 158 00:09:33,391 --> 00:09:36,925 Johnson wasn't interested in "high-sounding words" 159 00:09:37,025 --> 00:09:39,190 about progress, he said. 160 00:09:39,291 --> 00:09:41,690 He wanted genuine achievements... 161 00:09:41,791 --> 00:09:46,825 what they called in Texas, "coonskins on the wall." 162 00:09:46,925 --> 00:09:50,724 BUI DIEM: Well, nobody understood what does it mean "coonskin." 163 00:09:50,825 --> 00:09:55,425 And people the Vietnamese at the delegation they ask me, 164 00:09:55,525 --> 00:09:57,359 "You understand what it is?" 165 00:09:57,459 --> 00:09:59,892 And myself I said, "Well, I don't understand." 166 00:09:59,991 --> 00:10:02,392 I have to ask some Americans to explain to me. 167 00:10:02,491 --> 00:10:05,658 And some American friends, they explain to me later on 168 00:10:05,758 --> 00:10:07,892 and only by then the Vietnamese understood. 169 00:10:09,625 --> 00:10:11,625 I happen to hold the point of view 170 00:10:11,725 --> 00:10:13,292 that it isn't going to be too long 171 00:10:13,392 --> 00:10:15,459 before the American people, as a people, 172 00:10:15,558 --> 00:10:18,125 will repudiate our war in Southeast Asia. 173 00:10:18,225 --> 00:10:20,003 MAXWELL TAYLOR: That, of course, is good news 174 00:10:20,027 --> 00:10:21,226 to Hanoi, Senator. 175 00:10:21,327 --> 00:10:22,993 MORSE: Oh, I know that 176 00:10:23,092 --> 00:10:25,726 that's the smear artist that you militarists give to those of us 177 00:10:25,827 --> 00:10:27,503 that have honest differences of opinion with you. 178 00:10:27,527 --> 00:10:30,192 But I don't intend to get down in the gutter with you 179 00:10:30,293 --> 00:10:32,527 and engage in that kind of debate, General. 180 00:10:32,626 --> 00:10:36,059 NARRATOR: Johnson's trip to Honolulu had not distracted 181 00:10:36,159 --> 00:10:37,460 the American public. 182 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,659 They were riveted to the hearings. 183 00:10:40,759 --> 00:10:43,193 And I also think that great countries, 184 00:10:43,294 --> 00:10:45,260 especially this country, 185 00:10:45,361 --> 00:10:48,193 is quite strong enough to engage in a compromise 186 00:10:48,294 --> 00:10:50,461 without losing its standing in the world, 187 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,028 without losing its prestige as a great nation. 188 00:10:53,127 --> 00:10:55,193 On the contrary, I think it would be 189 00:10:55,294 --> 00:10:59,560 one of the greatest victories for us and our prestige 190 00:10:59,660 --> 00:11:03,493 if we could-could be ingenious enough and magnanimous enough 191 00:11:03,593 --> 00:11:05,462 to bring about some kind of a settlement 192 00:11:05,561 --> 00:11:07,329 of this particular struggle. 193 00:11:07,429 --> 00:11:11,862 NARRATOR: Fulbright invited the respected diplomat George Kennan 194 00:11:11,962 --> 00:11:13,561 to testify. 195 00:11:13,661 --> 00:11:16,628 For two decades, his doctrine of containment... 196 00:11:16,728 --> 00:11:18,628 stopping Soviet expansion... 197 00:11:18,728 --> 00:11:21,795 had been the basis of American foreign policy, 198 00:11:21,895 --> 00:11:24,962 and had in some ways been the justification 199 00:11:25,061 --> 00:11:30,330 for leading the United States into its proxy war in Vietnam. 200 00:11:30,430 --> 00:11:31,806 KENNAN: The first point I would like to make 201 00:11:31,830 --> 00:11:36,062 is that if we were not already involved as we are today 202 00:11:36,162 --> 00:11:37,863 in Vietnam, 203 00:11:37,963 --> 00:11:39,430 I would know of no reason 204 00:11:39,530 --> 00:11:42,129 why we should wish to become so involved, 205 00:11:42,229 --> 00:11:43,830 and I could think of several reasons 206 00:11:43,930 --> 00:11:45,363 why we should wish not to. 207 00:11:45,463 --> 00:11:49,596 You have referred to containment here. 208 00:11:49,696 --> 00:11:54,964 How... how can we contain in Vietnam? 209 00:11:55,063 --> 00:11:58,730 We would do better if we really would show ourselves 210 00:11:58,831 --> 00:12:02,297 a little more relaxed and less terrified of what happens 211 00:12:02,397 --> 00:12:04,364 in the... 212 00:12:04,464 --> 00:12:08,263 certainly in the smaller countries of Asia and Africa, 213 00:12:08,364 --> 00:12:12,398 and not jump around like an elephant frightened by a mouse 214 00:12:12,498 --> 00:12:14,697 every time these things occur. 215 00:12:14,798 --> 00:12:18,465 NARRATOR: Johnson was relieved when, at the last moment, 216 00:12:18,564 --> 00:12:21,532 instead of airing Kennan's testimony, 217 00:12:21,631 --> 00:12:25,032 CBS showed reruns ofThe Real McCoys, 218 00:12:25,131 --> 00:12:29,131 The Andy Griffith Show andl Love Lucy. 219 00:12:29,231 --> 00:12:33,298 But NBC kept the cameras running. 220 00:12:33,398 --> 00:12:36,198 This is not only not our business, 221 00:12:36,299 --> 00:12:38,198 but I don't think we can do it successfully. 222 00:12:38,299 --> 00:12:41,165 And I take it by this you mean that 223 00:12:41,265 --> 00:12:44,265 this is simply not a practicable objective, 224 00:12:44,366 --> 00:12:46,833 as I understand it, in this country. 225 00:12:46,933 --> 00:12:49,198 We can't achieve it even with the best of will. 226 00:12:49,299 --> 00:12:51,933 This is correct, and I have a fear 227 00:12:52,033 --> 00:12:57,566 that our thinking about this whole problem is still affected 228 00:12:57,666 --> 00:13:02,300 by some sort of illusions about invincibility on our part. 229 00:13:11,999 --> 00:13:14,233 NARRATOR: Just before the hearings began, 230 00:13:14,334 --> 00:13:17,400 the president had decided to resume the bombing of targets 231 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:19,367 in North Vietnam. 232 00:13:19,467 --> 00:13:25,267 The 37-day pause that had begun on Christmas Eve 1965 233 00:13:25,368 --> 00:13:28,435 had yielded no hint of Hanoi's willingness 234 00:13:28,535 --> 00:13:30,667 to come to the negotiating table. 235 00:13:32,835 --> 00:13:36,734 In South Vietnam, Viet Cong guerrillas were now believed 236 00:13:36,835 --> 00:13:40,835 to control nearly three-quarters of the country. 237 00:13:40,935 --> 00:13:43,735 But General William Westmoreland, 238 00:13:43,836 --> 00:13:47,635 the American commander, thought his most urgent task 239 00:13:47,735 --> 00:13:51,436 was to destroy the North Vietnamese regular army units 240 00:13:51,536 --> 00:13:53,336 Hanoi was sending South. 241 00:13:55,336 --> 00:13:58,201 Westmoreland's target for the next two years 242 00:13:58,302 --> 00:14:02,469 would be reaching what he called the "crossover point"... 243 00:14:02,568 --> 00:14:05,437 the point at which U.S. and ARVN forces 244 00:14:05,537 --> 00:14:09,437 were killing more enemy troops than could be replaced. 245 00:14:10,437 --> 00:14:14,102 It would be a war of attrition. 246 00:14:14,202 --> 00:14:19,102 But that would require still more American soldiers. 247 00:14:21,202 --> 00:14:24,470 They came from every corner of the country. 248 00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:31,170 MATT HARRISON: I was born at West Point when my dad was on the faculty there. 249 00:14:31,270 --> 00:14:33,770 From my earliest recollection, 250 00:14:33,871 --> 00:14:36,137 West Point was what I wanted to do, 251 00:14:36,237 --> 00:14:39,004 not even particularly because I had an inkling 252 00:14:39,103 --> 00:14:41,270 or a strong desire for a military career. 253 00:14:41,371 --> 00:14:42,471 It's just... 254 00:14:42,570 --> 00:14:44,479 West Point was kind of the height of my ambition. 255 00:14:44,503 --> 00:14:46,603 ("On, Brave Old Army Team" playing) 256 00:14:46,703 --> 00:14:49,770 NARRATOR: The son of a colonel who had served in World War II, 257 00:14:49,871 --> 00:14:54,638 Matt Harrison had grown up on Army bases around the world. 258 00:14:54,738 --> 00:14:56,738 For him and his four siblings, 259 00:14:56,839 --> 00:15:01,204 the military was always at the center of their lives. 260 00:15:01,305 --> 00:15:05,439 ANNE HARRISON BOWMAN: You addressed parents "sir" and "ma'am," 261 00:15:05,539 --> 00:15:08,339 and you said "yes" and not "yeah." 262 00:15:08,439 --> 00:15:11,704 And you answered the phone, "Colonel Harrison's quarters." 263 00:15:11,805 --> 00:15:14,605 We got up every Saturday morning and we dusted the house. 264 00:15:14,705 --> 00:15:17,639 My dad would put on the West Point marching band 265 00:15:17,740 --> 00:15:19,900 and my sister and I would dust around the living room. 266 00:15:21,272 --> 00:15:22,906 NARRATOR: It seemed to Matt's parents 267 00:15:23,005 --> 00:15:25,205 that he could do no wrong. 268 00:15:25,305 --> 00:15:28,572 He was the embodiment of the values they had hoped to instill 269 00:15:28,673 --> 00:15:33,705 in all their children: duty, honor, and country. 270 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,640 HARRISON: The strongest impression I have from my class 271 00:15:37,741 --> 00:15:42,073 and my classmates was they were guys who just were idealists. 272 00:15:42,174 --> 00:15:45,107 And I think guys drawn from little towns 273 00:15:45,206 --> 00:15:48,541 all across the United States had that in common. 274 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,541 It was a time before the questions 275 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,706 about American exceptionalism. 276 00:15:53,806 --> 00:15:55,741 We didn't question. 277 00:15:55,841 --> 00:15:58,975 We believed in what this country stood for, 278 00:15:59,074 --> 00:16:03,307 and we believed that people who had the ability 279 00:16:03,408 --> 00:16:06,542 to lead soldiers should do that. 280 00:16:08,007 --> 00:16:10,742 ("Mustang Sally" by Wilson Pickett playing) 281 00:16:15,707 --> 00:16:18,207 PICKETT: ♪ Mustang Sally 282 00:16:18,307 --> 00:16:19,774 ♪ Huh! 283 00:16:19,874 --> 00:16:21,909 ROGER HARRIS: I wanted to go with the gladiators. 284 00:16:22,008 --> 00:16:23,875 I wanted to go with the tough guys. 285 00:16:26,508 --> 00:16:30,508 I was born in Boston, in the Roxbury section of Boston. 286 00:16:30,609 --> 00:16:33,676 There were those who would recruit you for gangs 287 00:16:33,775 --> 00:16:37,043 and try to entice you to do things 288 00:16:37,142 --> 00:16:40,708 that-that weren't in the best interest of society. 289 00:16:40,808 --> 00:16:41,843 Let's put it like that. 290 00:16:43,243 --> 00:16:45,443 NARRATOR: Roger Harris dreamed of going to college 291 00:16:45,544 --> 00:16:48,209 on a football scholarship, but was not big enough 292 00:16:48,309 --> 00:16:50,744 to play for his team in high school. 293 00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:53,009 HARRIS: And so I enlisted in the Marine Corps. 294 00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:57,076 And I felt that... that it was a win-win 295 00:16:57,177 --> 00:17:01,977 because, one, if I died, then my mother would be able 296 00:17:02,076 --> 00:17:05,244 to receive the $10,000 insurance policy. 297 00:17:05,344 --> 00:17:07,045 I thought that was a lot of money, 298 00:17:07,144 --> 00:17:08,710 that my mother will be rich if I die. 299 00:17:08,810 --> 00:17:09,810 You know, she'll be rich. 300 00:17:11,444 --> 00:17:14,210 If I live, then I'll be a hero, you know, 301 00:17:14,310 --> 00:17:16,577 and I can come back and get a job. 302 00:17:16,678 --> 00:17:19,045 Naive, dumb, you know? 303 00:17:20,678 --> 00:17:23,144 NARRATOR: John Musgrave was from the Fairmount neighborhood 304 00:17:23,245 --> 00:17:25,611 of Independence, Missouri. 305 00:17:25,710 --> 00:17:29,078 MUSGRAVE: I was 17 and my best friend and I 306 00:17:29,179 --> 00:17:31,311 went down and enlisted in the Marine Corps. 307 00:17:31,412 --> 00:17:34,346 I had always dreamed of being a Marine. 308 00:17:34,445 --> 00:17:36,078 And... 309 00:17:38,979 --> 00:17:42,811 Well, I knew I wasn't going to be a man right away 310 00:17:42,912 --> 00:17:45,412 but I was going to be a Marine, and that was enough. 311 00:17:45,511 --> 00:17:49,711 I'd be doing something mature. 312 00:17:49,811 --> 00:17:52,379 And I'd be doing something that was important. 313 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,279 And there was a war on and I wanted a piece of it. 314 00:17:59,180 --> 00:18:01,347 BILL EHRHART: I grew up in Perkasie, Pennsylvania. 315 00:18:01,446 --> 00:18:03,579 And every Memorial Day 316 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,779 all that generation of World War II would dress up 317 00:18:06,879 --> 00:18:08,959 in their American Legion uniforms and parade around. 318 00:18:10,413 --> 00:18:14,280 And I'd put red, white, and blue crepe paper on my bicycle. 319 00:18:14,380 --> 00:18:16,681 And the kids could ride behind the parade. 320 00:18:18,414 --> 00:18:21,914 NARRATOR: Bill Ehrhart would sign up in part because his father, 321 00:18:22,013 --> 00:18:24,848 a pastor, had not served. 322 00:18:24,947 --> 00:18:27,981 Ehrhart was a gifted student 323 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,013 and in his senior year in high school 324 00:18:30,114 --> 00:18:33,114 was accepted by four colleges. 325 00:18:33,213 --> 00:18:35,013 Had he attended any one of them, 326 00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:38,381 he would have been deferred from the draft. 327 00:18:38,482 --> 00:18:40,014 It all came down to this notion 328 00:18:40,115 --> 00:18:43,049 of I was going to serve my country and be a hero 329 00:18:43,148 --> 00:18:46,615 and have that gorgeous Marine Corps uniform. 330 00:18:46,714 --> 00:18:49,682 And the girls would just be draped around my neck 331 00:18:49,781 --> 00:18:52,415 and nobody would beat me up again. 332 00:18:52,514 --> 00:18:53,814 But at the same time 333 00:18:53,915 --> 00:18:57,349 I would really be serving my country. 334 00:18:57,448 --> 00:19:00,183 It was my chance to be... (sighs) 335 00:19:00,282 --> 00:19:02,850 one doesn't want to trivialize it, but it was my chance to be 336 00:19:02,949 --> 00:19:04,782 the star of my own John Wayne movie. 337 00:19:04,882 --> 00:19:10,082 It was my chance to do what that World War II generation had done 338 00:19:10,183 --> 00:19:12,416 and seemed to be so proud of. 339 00:19:12,515 --> 00:19:15,483 Now I had my turn. 340 00:19:16,882 --> 00:19:18,191 NARRATOR: Wherever they came from, 341 00:19:18,215 --> 00:19:21,183 whatever their reasons for joining the military, 342 00:19:21,282 --> 00:19:23,684 training transformed them. 343 00:19:23,783 --> 00:19:28,150 (United States Marine Band playing "Semper Fidelis" march) 344 00:19:32,650 --> 00:19:34,917 For about the first five weeks at Parris Island, 345 00:19:35,016 --> 00:19:38,516 I was convinced that I was going to die there. 346 00:19:39,984 --> 00:19:42,144 The drill instructors said they were going to kill me. 347 00:19:42,184 --> 00:19:43,751 And they certainly sounded serious. 348 00:19:46,384 --> 00:19:49,084 MUSGRAVE: I grew up in segregated neighborhoods all my life. 349 00:19:49,185 --> 00:19:52,951 So, I'd never met a black person till I arrived at boot camp. 350 00:19:53,052 --> 00:19:56,752 Never stood next to a black person or a Hispanic 351 00:19:56,852 --> 00:19:58,517 or anyone who was Jewish. 352 00:19:58,618 --> 00:20:01,752 I just... they didn't mix where I grew up. 353 00:20:01,852 --> 00:20:04,317 So that was just eye opening. 354 00:20:04,418 --> 00:20:07,885 But when I got to talking to everybody, we were all the same. 355 00:20:07,986 --> 00:20:10,585 We were all working class and poor. 356 00:20:10,686 --> 00:20:13,919 And we all wanted to be Marines real bad. 357 00:20:15,085 --> 00:20:17,619 EHRHART: By the time I graduated, 358 00:20:17,718 --> 00:20:21,018 I felt like I was king of the world. 359 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,053 I was God. 360 00:20:23,152 --> 00:20:25,419 I could do anything. 361 00:20:25,518 --> 00:20:28,753 On that day I became a Marine. 362 00:20:28,853 --> 00:20:32,653 You know, the Marine Corps trains you to be a fighter. 363 00:20:32,754 --> 00:20:34,819 They train you to fight, they train you to kill. 364 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,054 They used to say that if you're a Marine, you can't die 365 00:20:38,153 --> 00:20:40,754 until you kill three Vietnamese. 366 00:20:42,086 --> 00:20:43,987 And I said, "Well, I'm from Roxbury. 367 00:20:44,086 --> 00:20:48,987 If the expectation is three, I'll do ten." 368 00:20:50,786 --> 00:20:52,421 You know, craziness. 369 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,488 (gunshot) 370 00:21:01,355 --> 00:21:04,355 LESLIE GELB: The tendency for a great power is to use 371 00:21:04,454 --> 00:21:06,355 what it's greatest at... 372 00:21:06,454 --> 00:21:09,654 namely its firepower, destructive power. 373 00:21:09,755 --> 00:21:12,988 Dropping a lot of bombs and shooting a lot of artillery 374 00:21:13,087 --> 00:21:14,855 at a distance. 375 00:21:14,955 --> 00:21:16,221 You save lives. 376 00:21:16,321 --> 00:21:18,922 You kill a lot of them, you don't lose a lot of us. 377 00:21:20,521 --> 00:21:23,288 NARRATOR: The central coastal province of Binh Dinh 378 00:21:23,388 --> 00:21:26,288 was home to more than half a million people. 379 00:21:26,388 --> 00:21:29,989 For decades, it had been a guerrilla stronghold, 380 00:21:30,088 --> 00:21:32,955 and in early 1966, 381 00:21:33,056 --> 00:21:38,190 the Viet Cong had been augmented by North Vietnamese regulars, 382 00:21:38,289 --> 00:21:40,889 some 8,000 men in all. 383 00:21:44,389 --> 00:21:47,257 General Westmoreland sent 20,000 American, 384 00:21:47,357 --> 00:21:50,222 South Vietnamese and South Korean troops 385 00:21:50,322 --> 00:21:53,623 storming across the province in pursuit of the enemy 386 00:21:53,722 --> 00:21:56,289 and their sources of supply. 387 00:21:56,389 --> 00:22:00,957 They first dropped leaflets and broadcast from loudspeakers 388 00:22:01,058 --> 00:22:03,090 to warn villagers of the terrible fate 389 00:22:03,191 --> 00:22:06,890 that awaited anyone who fired on their helicopters, 390 00:22:06,991 --> 00:22:09,223 urged them to leave their homes, 391 00:22:09,323 --> 00:22:12,558 promised safe passage to any Viet Cong 392 00:22:12,657 --> 00:22:14,223 who wished to surrender. 393 00:22:14,323 --> 00:22:17,890 Then they called in airstrikes and artillery 394 00:22:17,991 --> 00:22:21,758 and blew the hamlets to bits. 395 00:22:21,858 --> 00:22:26,259 It was the first large-scale search-and-destroy campaign 396 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,192 of the war. 397 00:22:28,291 --> 00:22:29,692 (shouting, gunfire) 398 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,458 The offensive lasted 42 days. 399 00:22:35,559 --> 00:22:42,158 The Army reported 2,389 enemy soldiers killed. 400 00:22:42,259 --> 00:22:45,192 Westmoreland was pleased. 401 00:22:45,291 --> 00:22:47,892 But commanders on the scene were concerned 402 00:22:47,993 --> 00:22:51,659 that despite all the American firepower brought against them, 403 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,592 most of the North Vietnamese regulars had still managed 404 00:22:55,693 --> 00:22:59,325 to escape back into the Central Highlands. 405 00:22:59,426 --> 00:23:04,025 The operation would drive more than 100,000 civilians 406 00:23:04,126 --> 00:23:05,792 from their homes. 407 00:23:07,092 --> 00:23:10,160 Similar search-and-destroy and bombing campaigns... 408 00:23:10,261 --> 00:23:15,427 17 large-scale U.S. offensives in 1966 alone... 409 00:23:15,526 --> 00:23:16,960 would produce a total 410 00:23:17,061 --> 00:23:20,026 of more than three million homeless people 411 00:23:20,127 --> 00:23:21,694 all across the country, 412 00:23:21,793 --> 00:23:27,026 roughly one-fifth of South Vietnam's population. 413 00:23:31,294 --> 00:23:34,628 Since there was no front in Vietnam, 414 00:23:34,727 --> 00:23:38,227 as there had been in the first and second World Wars, 415 00:23:38,327 --> 00:23:42,661 since no ground was ever permanently won or lost, 416 00:23:42,762 --> 00:23:46,394 the American military command in Vietnam... MACV... 417 00:23:46,495 --> 00:23:50,928 fell back more and more on a single grisly measure 418 00:23:51,027 --> 00:23:52,794 of supposed success: 419 00:23:52,894 --> 00:23:55,129 counting corpses. 420 00:23:55,228 --> 00:23:57,895 Body count. 421 00:24:03,063 --> 00:24:04,472 JAMES WILLBANKS: The problem with the war, 422 00:24:04,496 --> 00:24:07,129 as it often is, are the metrics. 423 00:24:07,228 --> 00:24:12,095 It is a situation where if you can't count what's important, 424 00:24:12,196 --> 00:24:14,696 you make what you can count important. 425 00:24:16,029 --> 00:24:17,906 So, in this particular case what you could count 426 00:24:17,930 --> 00:24:20,396 was dead enemy bodies. 427 00:24:22,329 --> 00:24:25,064 JOE GALLOWAY: You don't get details with a body count. 428 00:24:25,163 --> 00:24:26,997 You get numbers. 429 00:24:27,096 --> 00:24:31,864 And the numbers are lies, most of 'em. 430 00:24:31,963 --> 00:24:36,497 If body count is your success mark, 431 00:24:36,596 --> 00:24:42,664 then you're pushing otherwise honorable men, warriors, 432 00:24:42,765 --> 00:24:44,097 to become liars. 433 00:24:45,931 --> 00:24:47,765 ROBERT GARD: If body count 434 00:24:47,865 --> 00:24:49,097 is the measure of success, 435 00:24:49,198 --> 00:24:52,765 then there's the tendency to count every body 436 00:24:52,865 --> 00:24:54,998 as an enemy soldier. 437 00:24:55,097 --> 00:24:59,565 There's a tendency to want to pile up dead bodies 438 00:24:59,664 --> 00:25:05,731 and perhaps to use less discriminate firepower 439 00:25:05,831 --> 00:25:07,298 than you otherwise might 440 00:25:07,398 --> 00:25:10,866 in order to achieve the result 441 00:25:10,965 --> 00:25:14,632 that you're charged with trying to obtain. 442 00:25:28,232 --> 00:25:30,666 (man shouting) 443 00:25:35,067 --> 00:25:40,599 MERRILL McPEAK: Just think about the problem from the North's point of view. 444 00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:43,966 They had to supply the South. 445 00:25:44,067 --> 00:25:47,300 I'm talking about bringing in people, equipment, supplies, 446 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,300 and so forth. 447 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,368 They started from nothing and pushed a road through that... 448 00:25:54,467 --> 00:25:57,400 through an area the size of Massachusetts. 449 00:25:57,501 --> 00:26:01,434 So this is not a trivial amount of real estate 450 00:26:01,533 --> 00:26:04,701 that they took over, built a road on, 451 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,400 and then maintained it. 452 00:26:09,135 --> 00:26:12,801 NARRATOR: For years, Hanoi had smuggled most of its arms and supplies 453 00:26:12,901 --> 00:26:16,234 to the South aboard an improvised fleet of junks, 454 00:26:16,334 --> 00:26:18,702 trawlers and freighters. 455 00:26:18,801 --> 00:26:21,334 But when the U.S. Navy effectively blockaded 456 00:26:21,435 --> 00:26:23,202 the Southern coastline, 457 00:26:23,301 --> 00:26:25,635 the North Vietnamese would be forced to move 458 00:26:25,734 --> 00:26:28,502 almost all of their supplies overland, 459 00:26:28,601 --> 00:26:30,702 through Laos and Cambodia, 460 00:26:30,801 --> 00:26:33,136 neutral countries Hanoi considered 461 00:26:33,235 --> 00:26:35,602 part of the greater battlefield. 462 00:26:35,703 --> 00:26:39,302 Americans called it the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 463 00:26:39,402 --> 00:26:43,402 The North Vietnamese called it Route 559, 464 00:26:43,503 --> 00:26:47,469 after the men and women of the 559th Army Corps, 465 00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:50,969 who were turning it from a braided web of footpaths 466 00:26:51,070 --> 00:26:55,236 into 12,000 tangled miles of jungle roadways 467 00:26:55,336 --> 00:26:59,036 down which men and materiel streamed south. 468 00:27:00,271 --> 00:27:01,571 When they had fought the French, 469 00:27:01,670 --> 00:27:05,736 the Viet Minh had depended on tens of thousands of porters, 470 00:27:05,836 --> 00:27:08,803 then on legions of bicycles. 471 00:27:08,903 --> 00:27:12,071 Now, to offset the growing American presence, 472 00:27:12,170 --> 00:27:15,903 the North Vietnamese used more mechanized transport... 473 00:27:16,004 --> 00:27:19,104 relays of six-wheeled Russian-built trucks 474 00:27:19,205 --> 00:27:22,837 traveling under cover of darkness. 475 00:27:22,938 --> 00:27:25,904 MACV reasoned that if the Ho Chi Minh Trail 476 00:27:26,005 --> 00:27:28,505 could somehow be sufficiently damaged, 477 00:27:28,604 --> 00:27:32,904 the enemy would be unable to sustain itself. 478 00:27:35,471 --> 00:27:39,037 Three million tons of explosives would eventually be dropped 479 00:27:39,138 --> 00:27:41,738 on the Laos portion of the trail alone... 480 00:27:41,838 --> 00:27:45,972 a million more tons than fell on Germany and Japan 481 00:27:46,073 --> 00:27:48,873 during all of World War II. 482 00:27:48,972 --> 00:27:52,972 Some key choke-points were hit so many times 483 00:27:53,073 --> 00:27:56,472 the workers gave them names... "the Gate of Death," 484 00:27:56,573 --> 00:28:02,274 "Fried Flesh Hill" and "the Gorge of Lost Souls." 485 00:28:04,406 --> 00:28:06,940 To expose enemy traffic, 486 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:09,906 other aircraft dropped chemical defoliants, 487 00:28:10,007 --> 00:28:11,940 including Agent Orange, 488 00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:14,973 that destroyed thousands of acres of jungle 489 00:28:15,074 --> 00:28:18,839 and turned the earth into what one American pilot called 490 00:28:18,940 --> 00:28:21,539 "bony, lunar dust." 491 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,775 McPEAK: We'd punch a hole in the road and say, 492 00:28:25,875 --> 00:28:27,484 "Ha ha, they'll never get around that one." 493 00:28:27,508 --> 00:28:30,107 And the next day you'd come up, and the hole wouldn't be there; 494 00:28:30,208 --> 00:28:32,941 and there'd be dust on the trees back, you know, 50 meters 495 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,907 in both directions, saying, heavy traffic all night. 496 00:28:53,175 --> 00:28:58,041 NARRATOR: As many as 230,000 teenagers, many of them volunteers, 497 00:28:58,142 --> 00:29:02,175 worked to keep the roads open and the traffic moving. 498 00:29:02,276 --> 00:29:05,209 More than half of them were women. 499 00:29:07,776 --> 00:29:10,777 Le Minh Khue, who had left her home in the North 500 00:29:10,877 --> 00:29:13,809 with a novel by Ernest Hemingway in her backpack, 501 00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:17,476 observed her 17th birthday on the trail. 502 00:29:33,711 --> 00:29:38,810 NARRATOR: Thousands died on the trail from starvation and accidents, 503 00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:42,511 fevers and snakebite and sheer exhaustion, 504 00:29:42,610 --> 00:29:45,444 as well as from the relentless bombing. 505 00:30:52,447 --> 00:30:54,746 (Doug Wamble's "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall" playing) 506 00:30:57,413 --> 00:30:59,822 HOWARD K. SMITH (on television): But in this kind of war you never know. 507 00:30:59,846 --> 00:31:01,613 You have to be constantly alert 508 00:31:01,714 --> 00:31:04,148 because you can't tell friends from enemies. 509 00:31:04,247 --> 00:31:07,715 Relax for a moment and your reward may be a grenade 510 00:31:07,814 --> 00:31:09,247 or a hail of bullets. 511 00:31:09,347 --> 00:31:11,515 CAROL CROCKER: I couldn't watch the news. 512 00:31:11,614 --> 00:31:14,782 My parents would be sitting in front of the television 513 00:31:14,882 --> 00:31:17,282 and I would hide in the kitchen. 514 00:31:19,414 --> 00:31:22,981 Of course you don't tell anybody, but it was too much. 515 00:31:23,082 --> 00:31:25,015 I really didn't want to know. 516 00:31:25,114 --> 00:31:28,048 ("Smokestack Lightnin'" by Howlin' Wolf playing) 517 00:31:35,016 --> 00:31:39,016 HOWLIN' WOLF: ♪ Oh-oh, smokestack lightnin'. 518 00:31:39,115 --> 00:31:42,482 NARRATOR: Mogie Crocker had spent most of his boyhood 519 00:31:42,583 --> 00:31:44,248 reading about war. 520 00:31:44,348 --> 00:31:47,682 But nothing had prepared him for what he would experience 521 00:31:47,783 --> 00:31:50,749 in Quang Duc Province on the Cambodian border. 522 00:31:52,816 --> 00:31:54,450 He had deliberately fouled up his work 523 00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:56,950 at battalion headquarters so badly 524 00:31:57,049 --> 00:31:58,616 that he had finally been reassigned 525 00:31:58,717 --> 00:32:02,150 to what he wanted most... a combat unit. 526 00:32:02,249 --> 00:32:06,249 HOWLIN' WOLF: ♪ Whoa-oh, tell me, baby 527 00:32:06,349 --> 00:32:10,349 ♪ What's the matter with you? 528 00:32:10,450 --> 00:32:13,617 ♪ Why don't you hear me cryin'? 529 00:32:13,718 --> 00:32:15,417 ♪ Oooh 530 00:32:15,518 --> 00:32:18,550 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: Not hearing in those days was so difficult. 531 00:32:18,651 --> 00:32:23,051 There'd be at least eight to ten days usually between letters. 532 00:32:23,151 --> 00:32:27,084 So knowing he was in action, you just didn't know what, 533 00:32:27,185 --> 00:32:28,984 you know, might be going on. 534 00:32:30,817 --> 00:32:32,850 NARRATOR: Mogie's battalion commander, 535 00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:35,152 Lieutenant Colonel Henry Emerson, 536 00:32:35,251 --> 00:32:36,751 known as "The Gunfighter," 537 00:32:36,851 --> 00:32:40,585 was courageous, implacable, relentless. 538 00:32:41,985 --> 00:32:43,886 A few months before Mogie got there, 539 00:32:43,985 --> 00:32:47,386 he had offered a case of whiskey to the first of his men 540 00:32:47,485 --> 00:32:51,552 to bring him the hacked-off head of an enemy soldier. 541 00:32:51,652 --> 00:32:54,518 They did. 542 00:32:57,352 --> 00:33:01,452 For nine days in early May of 1966, 543 00:33:01,553 --> 00:33:05,887 Mogie and his outfit battled nothing but the terrain. 544 00:33:05,986 --> 00:33:08,986 They struggled through a labyrinth of elephant grass 545 00:33:09,086 --> 00:33:10,419 and thorn bushes, 546 00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:13,319 bamboo taller than three men 547 00:33:13,419 --> 00:33:16,153 and triple-canopied jungle so thick 548 00:33:16,252 --> 00:33:20,288 it sometimes took an hour to move 100 feet. 549 00:33:20,388 --> 00:33:21,554 (thunder rumbles) 550 00:33:21,654 --> 00:33:23,087 The monsoon had begun. 551 00:33:23,188 --> 00:33:26,654 Sunlight rarely reached the forest floor. 552 00:33:26,753 --> 00:33:28,788 Finger-long black leeches 553 00:33:28,888 --> 00:33:32,520 caused wounds that quickly became infected. 554 00:33:32,621 --> 00:33:35,920 When Colonel Emerson learned that four companies 555 00:33:36,020 --> 00:33:38,621 of North Vietnamese were preparing an ambush, 556 00:33:38,721 --> 00:33:41,821 he decided to ambush the ambushers. 557 00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:46,588 On May 11, he ordered his men to attack, 558 00:33:46,689 --> 00:33:50,189 backed by massive air and artillery strikes. 559 00:33:52,588 --> 00:33:54,588 Before the fighting ended, 560 00:33:54,689 --> 00:34:00,722 some 2,000 shells had slammed into the enemy positions. 561 00:34:00,821 --> 00:34:04,623 Blood was everywhere, pooled on the ground, 562 00:34:04,723 --> 00:34:08,190 smeared on leaves and grass and bamboo. 563 00:34:08,290 --> 00:34:10,723 There were scores of corpses, 564 00:34:10,822 --> 00:34:15,290 torn to pieces or blown into the earth, hidden in thickets, 565 00:34:15,390 --> 00:34:18,522 half-buried in scooped-out graves. 566 00:34:18,623 --> 00:34:20,955 The earth-shaking concussions 567 00:34:21,056 --> 00:34:24,955 had blown the eyeballs of some of them from their heads. 568 00:34:26,422 --> 00:34:27,756 In the midst of the fighting, 569 00:34:27,856 --> 00:34:30,523 Mogie's squad was moving along a narrow path 570 00:34:30,624 --> 00:34:33,791 when two enemy machine guns opened up on them. 571 00:34:33,891 --> 00:34:36,657 (gunfire) 572 00:34:40,157 --> 00:34:43,356 His closest friend was fatally wounded. 573 00:34:43,456 --> 00:34:48,124 Mogie crouched in front of him, radioed for suppressive fire, 574 00:34:48,224 --> 00:34:52,125 and then, as both machine guns continued shooting, 575 00:34:52,225 --> 00:34:56,625 he carried his dying friend off the battlefield. 576 00:34:57,725 --> 00:34:58,924 For his courage, 577 00:34:59,024 --> 00:35:03,257 he would be awarded the Army Commendation Medal. 578 00:35:05,457 --> 00:35:08,757 In his letters home, Mogie told his family 579 00:35:08,857 --> 00:35:12,758 nothing of what he'd seen or done. 580 00:35:12,858 --> 00:35:16,626 (David Cieri playing "Sound of Silence") 581 00:35:20,092 --> 00:35:23,458 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: One day when I was at the post office mailing something, 582 00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:27,458 I asked the clerk, "How do they let you know 583 00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:29,425 if your son is wounded?" 584 00:35:29,525 --> 00:35:32,559 It was very hard for me to form those words. 585 00:35:32,659 --> 00:35:35,259 But I just felt I've got to know. 586 00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:39,660 I just felt so suspended in space, in anxiety. 587 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,993 And the man said, "Now, don't ask that. 588 00:35:45,093 --> 00:35:47,526 Don't think about that." 589 00:35:47,627 --> 00:35:50,294 I said, "Well, I have to know." 590 00:35:50,394 --> 00:35:53,993 And he said, "Don't worry, they'll tell you." 591 00:35:57,227 --> 00:36:01,494 (Pete Seeger playing "The Willing Conscript") 592 00:36:01,594 --> 00:36:03,760 SEEGER: ♪ Oh sergeant, I'm a draftee 593 00:36:03,860 --> 00:36:06,460 ♪ And I've just arrived in camp ♪ 594 00:36:06,561 --> 00:36:11,094 ♪ I've come to wear the uniform and join the martial tramp ♪ 595 00:36:11,195 --> 00:36:15,927 ♪ And I want to do my duty, but one thing I do implore ♪ 596 00:36:16,027 --> 00:36:17,707 ♪ You must give me lessons, sergeant ♪ 597 00:36:17,795 --> 00:36:20,961 ♪ For I've never killed before. ♪ 598 00:36:22,861 --> 00:36:27,562 PHILIP CAPUTO: I didn't like the war protesters whatever. 599 00:36:27,662 --> 00:36:30,796 I kind of felt that they were privileged, spoiled kids 600 00:36:30,896 --> 00:36:37,662 who may have been protesting because they didn't want to go. 601 00:36:37,761 --> 00:36:40,196 So they leave it to some guy 602 00:36:40,296 --> 00:36:42,595 that maybe got through two years of high school 603 00:36:42,696 --> 00:36:43,962 to go do it for 'em. 604 00:36:45,163 --> 00:36:47,630 BILL ZIMMERMAN: The war by 1966 605 00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:50,197 began to impact the middle class 606 00:36:50,297 --> 00:36:53,462 because the draft calls had to be enlarged. 607 00:36:53,563 --> 00:36:56,563 They couldn't get enough people to volunteer 608 00:36:56,663 --> 00:36:58,897 or draft people out of the working class. 609 00:36:58,996 --> 00:37:00,862 They started drafting people out of college. 610 00:37:00,962 --> 00:37:05,130 And that's when the antiwar movement shifted 611 00:37:05,230 --> 00:37:08,830 from a moral movement to a self-interest movement 612 00:37:08,930 --> 00:37:12,030 driven by people who didn't want to go to war 613 00:37:12,131 --> 00:37:16,463 and their loved ones who didn't want them to go to war. 614 00:37:16,564 --> 00:37:18,963 SEEGER: ♪ And I know that it won't matter ♪ 615 00:37:19,064 --> 00:37:22,463 ♪ That I've never killed before. ♪ 616 00:37:22,564 --> 00:37:23,863 (school bell rings) 617 00:37:23,963 --> 00:37:26,231 NARRATOR: Bill Zimmerman was a graduate student 618 00:37:26,330 --> 00:37:30,699 at the University of Chicago in May of 1966. 619 00:37:30,799 --> 00:37:33,431 The son of Eastern European refugees, 620 00:37:33,531 --> 00:37:36,098 he'd worked for civil rights in Mississippi 621 00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:39,498 and had been opposed to American involvement in Vietnam 622 00:37:39,598 --> 00:37:42,331 since 1963. 623 00:37:42,431 --> 00:37:44,899 The draft was a consuming issue 624 00:37:44,998 --> 00:37:47,531 for young men of Zimmerman's generation. 625 00:37:47,632 --> 00:37:51,932 Since 1942, every male citizen of the United States 626 00:37:52,032 --> 00:37:55,733 had been required to register at age 18. 627 00:37:55,832 --> 00:37:59,300 But of the nearly 27 million American men 628 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,133 who came of age during the Vietnam War, 629 00:38:02,233 --> 00:38:05,233 more than half avoided military service 630 00:38:05,332 --> 00:38:07,800 through exemptions and deferments. 631 00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:11,566 Nearly 500,000 Americans applied 632 00:38:11,666 --> 00:38:13,901 for conscientious objector status 633 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,167 on religious or moral grounds, 634 00:38:16,266 --> 00:38:19,266 six times as many as in World War II. 635 00:38:19,366 --> 00:38:25,533 In all, 170,000 were allowed to perform alternative service 636 00:38:25,634 --> 00:38:30,000 in hospitals, homeless shelters, and schools. 637 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:34,167 Some were trained as medics and sent to Vietnam. 638 00:38:34,266 --> 00:38:36,767 At least two were killed; 639 00:38:36,867 --> 00:38:40,635 both received the Congressional Medal of Honor. 640 00:38:40,735 --> 00:38:45,101 A million young men served in the Reserves or National Guard 641 00:38:45,202 --> 00:38:48,802 with the expectation they would never be sent into combat. 642 00:38:48,902 --> 00:38:53,434 Reservists and Guardsmen were almost always white, 643 00:38:53,534 --> 00:38:56,235 generally better educated, better connected, 644 00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:58,968 and better paid than draftees. 645 00:38:59,069 --> 00:39:02,669 Interrupting their lives, President Johnson felt, 646 00:39:02,768 --> 00:39:05,602 would have increased opposition to the war. 647 00:39:05,703 --> 00:39:11,236 "If you've got the dough," Gis said, "you don't have to go." 648 00:39:11,335 --> 00:39:12,879 ("Backlash Blues" by Nina Simone playing) 649 00:39:12,903 --> 00:39:15,102 The result was an Army heavily skewed 650 00:39:15,203 --> 00:39:17,968 toward minorities and the underprivileged. 651 00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:21,102 SIMONE: ♪ Mr. Backlash, Mr. Backlash 652 00:39:21,204 --> 00:39:23,804 ♪ Just who do you think I am? 653 00:39:23,904 --> 00:39:26,836 ♪ You raise my taxes, freeze my wages ♪ 654 00:39:26,936 --> 00:39:30,003 ♪ And send my son to Vietnam. 655 00:39:30,103 --> 00:39:33,869 NARRATOR: For a time, African Americans, 656 00:39:33,969 --> 00:39:37,570 though they represented only 12% of the population, 657 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:41,404 suffered a disproportionate number of casualties. 658 00:39:41,503 --> 00:39:45,470 Resentment began to grow. 659 00:39:45,571 --> 00:39:47,614 STOKELY CARMICHAEL: We've got to build so much strength 660 00:39:47,638 --> 00:39:49,138 in building our community, 661 00:39:49,238 --> 00:39:51,270 that if they come to get one person, 662 00:39:51,370 --> 00:39:52,846 they going to have to mess with us all. 663 00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:54,004 That's what we got to do! 664 00:39:54,104 --> 00:39:55,470 That's what we go to do. 665 00:39:55,571 --> 00:39:56,970 (applause) 666 00:39:57,071 --> 00:40:01,537 We've got to build so much strength inside our community, 667 00:40:01,638 --> 00:40:04,970 so that when LBJ says, "Come here, boy, to my war," 668 00:40:05,071 --> 00:40:07,072 we say, "Hell no, we ain't going." 669 00:40:07,172 --> 00:40:08,371 (applause) 670 00:40:08,471 --> 00:40:10,739 SIMONE: ♪ But the world is big. 671 00:40:10,838 --> 00:40:12,115 MUHAMMAD ALI: I'm not going to help nobody 672 00:40:12,139 --> 00:40:14,371 get something my Negroes don't have. 673 00:40:14,471 --> 00:40:15,814 If I'm going to die, I'll die now, 674 00:40:15,838 --> 00:40:18,572 right here fighting you, if I'm going to die. 675 00:40:18,672 --> 00:40:22,505 You my enemy, my enemy is the white people, not Viet Congs, 676 00:40:22,605 --> 00:40:24,072 or Chinese, or Japanese. 677 00:40:24,172 --> 00:40:26,572 You my opposer when I want freedom. 678 00:40:26,672 --> 00:40:28,538 You my opposer when I want justice. 679 00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:30,080 You my opposer when I want equality. 680 00:40:30,173 --> 00:40:31,939 And you want me to go somewhere and fight, 681 00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:34,372 but you won't even stand up for me here at home. 682 00:40:34,472 --> 00:40:39,573 NARRATOR: At first, 10,000 draftees were called up each month, 683 00:40:39,673 --> 00:40:44,972 but in 1966, the growing demand for fresh troops in Vietnam 684 00:40:45,073 --> 00:40:48,673 raised that number to 30,000. 685 00:40:48,772 --> 00:40:51,973 Now, thousands of college students 686 00:40:52,074 --> 00:40:55,408 could no longer expect a deferment. 687 00:40:55,507 --> 00:40:58,808 ZIMMERMAN: And if your rank fell below a certain threshold, 688 00:40:58,908 --> 00:41:02,040 you were yanked out of college. 689 00:41:02,141 --> 00:41:04,773 And the worst that could happen to you is you would be killed 690 00:41:04,873 --> 00:41:06,574 in Vietnam. 691 00:41:06,674 --> 00:41:10,107 So we protested at the University of Chicago 692 00:41:10,208 --> 00:41:14,809 that the university was complicit with this war 693 00:41:14,909 --> 00:41:19,175 by agreeing to supply those rankings to the draft board. 694 00:41:19,274 --> 00:41:21,874 We thought for the first time, you know, 695 00:41:21,974 --> 00:41:23,774 we're really having an impact. 696 00:41:27,575 --> 00:41:33,175 NARRATOR: But a majority of Americans, old and young, supported the war. 697 00:41:33,274 --> 00:41:35,474 The Young Americans for Freedom, 698 00:41:35,575 --> 00:41:39,009 created by the conservative writer William F. Buckley, 699 00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:43,775 held counter-demonstrations on campuses across the country. 700 00:41:43,875 --> 00:41:47,275 CROWD: ♪ His truth is marching on. 701 00:42:42,312 --> 00:42:46,112 DUONG VAN MAI ELLIOTT: I was brought up to believe that the communists were people 702 00:42:46,213 --> 00:42:51,213 who destroy the family, destroy religion, 703 00:42:51,313 --> 00:42:54,778 and people who had no allegiance to our country 704 00:42:54,878 --> 00:42:57,945 but to international communism. 705 00:42:58,045 --> 00:43:02,079 My mother would describe them as (speaking Vietnamese), 706 00:43:02,179 --> 00:43:04,413 which means that these are people 707 00:43:04,512 --> 00:43:07,179 with the head of a water buffalo and the face of a horse, 708 00:43:07,278 --> 00:43:11,214 meaning that they were subhumans, and they were brutal. 709 00:43:12,546 --> 00:43:15,814 But on the other hand I thought they also include people 710 00:43:15,914 --> 00:43:19,580 like my sister Thang and a lot of my cousins. 711 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,946 I couldn't quite reconcile the two images. 712 00:43:24,046 --> 00:43:28,314 But of the two, I think the other image was much stronger 713 00:43:28,414 --> 00:43:30,315 because I was so scared of them. 714 00:43:30,415 --> 00:43:33,915 I thought these people must be really, really horrible people. 715 00:43:34,014 --> 00:43:36,480 That was the frame of mind I had 716 00:43:36,581 --> 00:43:40,815 when I started doing research into the communist movement. 717 00:43:40,915 --> 00:43:44,415 NARRATOR: Duong Van Mai was the daughter of an official 718 00:43:44,514 --> 00:43:47,681 in the South Vietnamese government and was now married 719 00:43:47,780 --> 00:43:50,347 to an American, David Elliott. 720 00:43:50,447 --> 00:43:53,582 Back in 1964, she had gone to work 721 00:43:53,682 --> 00:43:56,281 for the RAND Corporation in Saigon. 722 00:43:56,381 --> 00:43:58,615 The think tank had been commissioned 723 00:43:58,716 --> 00:44:02,515 by Robert McNamara to do a study of enemy prisoners 724 00:44:02,615 --> 00:44:05,582 to find out "Who are the Viet Cong? 725 00:44:05,682 --> 00:44:07,981 And what makes them tick?" 726 00:44:09,716 --> 00:44:12,015 DUONG VAN MAI ELLIOTT: I remember my first interview. 727 00:44:12,115 --> 00:44:13,781 I was by myself. 728 00:44:13,881 --> 00:44:18,750 I was very young and I was going to this pretty grim prison 729 00:44:18,849 --> 00:44:23,482 to interview this high-ranking cadre who had been captured. 730 00:44:23,583 --> 00:44:27,616 I went in thinking I'm going to meet this beast, you know, 731 00:44:27,717 --> 00:44:30,083 this guy with the head of a water buffalo 732 00:44:30,183 --> 00:44:31,717 and the face of a horse. 733 00:44:31,817 --> 00:44:34,417 He walked in and he was very surprised to see me. 734 00:44:34,516 --> 00:44:35,683 (chuckles) 735 00:44:35,782 --> 00:44:38,418 Just as surprised as I was to see him. 736 00:44:38,517 --> 00:44:42,818 Here was a man who had devoted all his life to fight 737 00:44:42,918 --> 00:44:45,818 for what he called a just cause 738 00:44:45,918 --> 00:44:48,550 to free his country of foreign domination, 739 00:44:48,651 --> 00:44:53,218 to reunify the country under just government. 740 00:44:53,318 --> 00:44:55,318 So he really totally believed in it 741 00:44:55,418 --> 00:44:58,651 to the point that he sacrificed his whole life to this cause. 742 00:44:58,751 --> 00:45:01,484 So I left, I was very... I was very impressed with him. 743 00:45:03,152 --> 00:45:04,919 NARRATOR: When the RAND report was presented 744 00:45:05,018 --> 00:45:07,951 to McNamara's top deputies at the Pentagon, 745 00:45:08,051 --> 00:45:11,051 describing the Viet Cong as a dedicated enemy 746 00:45:11,152 --> 00:45:14,618 that "could only be defeated at enormous cost," 747 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,051 one senior official said, "If what you say is true, 748 00:45:19,152 --> 00:45:21,652 "we're fighting on the wrong side, 749 00:45:21,752 --> 00:45:24,720 the side that's going to lose this war." 750 00:45:28,153 --> 00:45:31,852 (Donovan's "Sunshine Superman" playing) 751 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:46,020 DONOVAN: ♪ Sunshine came softly through my a-window today ♪ 752 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:53,187 ♪ Could've tripped out easy a-but I've a-changed my ways. ♪ 753 00:45:53,286 --> 00:45:58,620 STUART HERRINGTON: The overall myth of an American army running roughshod 754 00:45:58,721 --> 00:46:03,953 by policy, by strategy, by tactics to terrorize and murder 755 00:46:04,053 --> 00:46:08,722 and victimize the innocent population of South Vietnam, 756 00:46:08,822 --> 00:46:10,422 that image is the... 757 00:46:10,521 --> 00:46:13,787 it-it doesn't do justice to the young men and women 758 00:46:13,887 --> 00:46:15,088 who served over there. 759 00:46:15,188 --> 00:46:18,021 It's certainly not an accurate depiction 760 00:46:18,121 --> 00:46:20,621 of what our army was about. 761 00:46:22,422 --> 00:46:25,621 NARRATOR: From the first, the Johnson administration understood 762 00:46:25,722 --> 00:46:27,554 that the war could not be won 763 00:46:27,655 --> 00:46:31,488 without convincing poor farmers living in the countryside 764 00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:35,355 that the government in Saigon, not the Viet Cong, 765 00:46:35,455 --> 00:46:39,988 had their best interests at heart. 766 00:46:40,089 --> 00:46:42,256 In addition to the military, 767 00:46:42,355 --> 00:46:45,388 many American aid organizations were at work 768 00:46:45,488 --> 00:46:47,189 in Vietnamese villages. 769 00:46:47,288 --> 00:46:50,089 They dug wells and built windmills, 770 00:46:50,189 --> 00:46:54,157 started schools, introduced improved rice, 771 00:46:54,257 --> 00:46:55,956 provided medical care, 772 00:46:56,056 --> 00:46:59,824 and electrified much of the countryside. 773 00:47:02,389 --> 00:47:05,224 Under pressure from Robert McNamara, 774 00:47:05,324 --> 00:47:09,056 MACV struggled to find ways to measure the progress 775 00:47:09,157 --> 00:47:13,523 of pacification in South Vietnam's 44 provinces, 776 00:47:13,623 --> 00:47:18,490 220 districts and 13,000 hamlets, 777 00:47:18,591 --> 00:47:23,758 and finally came up with the Hamlet Evaluation System. 778 00:47:23,857 --> 00:47:27,990 Soon some 220 U.S. district advisers 779 00:47:28,091 --> 00:47:31,857 were required to produce some 90,000 pages 780 00:47:31,957 --> 00:47:36,725 of data every month... a mountain of information so daunting 781 00:47:36,825 --> 00:47:40,491 no one could make sense of it. 782 00:47:43,192 --> 00:47:46,025 PHILIP BRADY: Everything can be quantified. 783 00:47:46,125 --> 00:47:49,991 So you can literally say, "How pacified is this village?" 784 00:47:50,092 --> 00:47:53,125 "It's 37.5% pacified." 785 00:47:53,226 --> 00:47:55,426 Well, what does that mean? 786 00:47:55,525 --> 00:47:56,858 An American would tell you, 787 00:47:56,958 --> 00:48:00,291 "You know, we haven't had an incident in this village 788 00:48:00,391 --> 00:48:02,927 or this province," whatever. 789 00:48:03,026 --> 00:48:08,859 "The incident rate's going down, and therefore we're winning." 790 00:48:08,959 --> 00:48:11,559 But we would point out that certain troubled areas 791 00:48:11,660 --> 00:48:14,260 in the provinces that we were working in, 792 00:48:14,359 --> 00:48:17,559 we would say simply that it's not pacified 793 00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:21,459 unless you want to consider it pacified by the other side. 794 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,521 HERRINGTON: To the extent that pacification was succeeding, 795 00:48:25,594 --> 00:48:28,661 schools were being built, wells were being cleaned. 796 00:48:28,761 --> 00:48:30,060 And then one fine night 797 00:48:30,161 --> 00:48:32,928 here comes 400 North Vietnamese soldiers into the village, 798 00:48:33,027 --> 00:48:35,860 executes the village chief, kidnaps 12 of the young people 799 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,428 for, you know, service in the revolutionary armed forces, 800 00:48:39,527 --> 00:48:41,627 and the people look at the government and say, 801 00:48:41,728 --> 00:48:46,994 "You promised us you'd protect us, but you didn't stay." 802 00:48:52,361 --> 00:48:54,128 MIKE HEANEY: I was over there early. 803 00:48:54,229 --> 00:48:58,561 I was with a really good unit, who believed in Army traditions, 804 00:48:58,662 --> 00:49:00,262 they believed in honor, 805 00:49:00,361 --> 00:49:04,361 they believed even in treating your enemy humanely 806 00:49:04,461 --> 00:49:06,528 once he was a POW. 807 00:49:06,628 --> 00:49:11,062 NARRATOR: Lieutenant Mike Heaney from Basking Ridge, New Jersey, 808 00:49:11,163 --> 00:49:14,230 was a platoon leader in the 1st Cavalry Division. 809 00:49:14,330 --> 00:49:17,596 He'd arrived late in 1965 810 00:49:17,696 --> 00:49:20,696 and was assigned to a densely populated section 811 00:49:20,795 --> 00:49:22,029 of central Vietnam, 812 00:49:22,129 --> 00:49:24,230 where he found himself surrounded 813 00:49:24,330 --> 00:49:26,596 by North Vietnamese infiltrators 814 00:49:26,696 --> 00:49:30,230 and villagers whose loyalties were unclear. 815 00:49:31,330 --> 00:49:33,530 HEANEY: We never really figured out 816 00:49:33,630 --> 00:49:36,097 how to determine who the enemy was. 817 00:49:36,197 --> 00:49:41,063 Being normal, decent American boys, 818 00:49:41,164 --> 00:49:44,030 you don't just put your rifle up and take a shot at a guy 819 00:49:44,130 --> 00:49:45,296 and try to kill him 820 00:49:45,396 --> 00:49:49,164 unless you're pretty sure this is an enemy. 821 00:49:49,264 --> 00:49:51,831 And if he wasn't armed, 822 00:49:51,931 --> 00:49:55,932 or wasn't menacing you in any way, we wouldn't shoot him. 823 00:49:57,598 --> 00:49:59,297 We'd go through a village 824 00:49:59,397 --> 00:50:01,832 in which there would be no people we could identify 825 00:50:01,932 --> 00:50:05,432 as enemy soldiers, and we'd find a big cache of rice. 826 00:50:05,531 --> 00:50:08,797 So the standing instructions were blow that up, burn it, 827 00:50:08,897 --> 00:50:10,665 destroy it, poison it, whatever. 828 00:50:10,765 --> 00:50:14,397 We really didn't want to do that because it... 829 00:50:14,497 --> 00:50:16,732 You didn't have to be a rocket scientist to look around 830 00:50:16,832 --> 00:50:18,441 and see these people are depending on this. 831 00:50:18,465 --> 00:50:19,465 This is their food. 832 00:50:22,032 --> 00:50:24,933 We were told sometimes to burn thatched dwellings. 833 00:50:25,032 --> 00:50:26,365 And guys would unenthusiastically 834 00:50:26,465 --> 00:50:28,599 try to light a roof. 835 00:50:28,699 --> 00:50:30,433 And as soon as the flame burned out, 836 00:50:30,532 --> 00:50:32,933 they weren't going to try again. 837 00:50:33,032 --> 00:50:36,333 Our hearts really weren't in trying to destroy 838 00:50:36,433 --> 00:50:38,632 civilian food, civilian homes. 839 00:50:38,733 --> 00:50:41,866 It gave us an uneasy feeling about, 840 00:50:41,966 --> 00:50:43,700 "What is this war is about?" 841 00:50:46,499 --> 00:50:48,066 (gunfire) 842 00:50:48,167 --> 00:50:50,167 NARRATOR: Most of the fighting in Vietnam 843 00:50:50,267 --> 00:50:52,834 was the kind Mike Heaney was about to see... 844 00:50:52,934 --> 00:50:58,700 small-scale, close-up, and initiated by the elusive enemy. 845 00:51:00,167 --> 00:51:02,900 The military called it "contact." 846 00:51:04,435 --> 00:51:10,067 "War is hell," grunts liked to say, "but contact is a mother." 847 00:51:14,634 --> 00:51:19,400 HEANEY: The job of an infantry platoon usually is to try to scare up 848 00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:22,567 enemy infantry and take it down. 849 00:51:22,668 --> 00:51:27,135 Really, the tactic was we were acting as bait. 850 00:51:27,236 --> 00:51:29,269 And at some level we knew that. 851 00:51:29,368 --> 00:51:32,135 You know, go walk in the woods and draw fire. 852 00:51:33,901 --> 00:51:35,568 NARRATOR: Six months into his tour, 853 00:51:35,669 --> 00:51:38,368 Heaney undertook what he and his men thought 854 00:51:38,468 --> 00:51:40,135 would be an easy assignment: 855 00:51:40,236 --> 00:51:44,436 climb a slope not far from their base at An Khe 856 00:51:44,535 --> 00:51:48,170 and drive a small enemy mortar unit off a ridge line. 857 00:51:48,270 --> 00:51:52,969 HEANEY: As soon as we started out, we started to get some bad vibes. 858 00:51:53,069 --> 00:51:58,369 We found some boot prints in the mud 859 00:51:58,469 --> 00:52:01,069 at the edge of this landing zone, 860 00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:04,170 and a nice trail, a well-used trail going up the ridge. 861 00:52:04,270 --> 00:52:08,402 I remember talking to one of my squad leaders about this. 862 00:52:08,502 --> 00:52:12,671 And we were both sitting there, "Well, shit, this sucks." 863 00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:16,771 And all of a sudden the very point man, 864 00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:19,204 the first guy in the column, Sergeant Mays, 865 00:52:19,303 --> 00:52:22,771 without saying anything just put his M16 up to his shoulder 866 00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:24,303 and fired off a round. 867 00:52:24,403 --> 00:52:27,570 And he turned around and he said, "VC on the trail. 868 00:52:27,671 --> 00:52:29,403 VC on the trail." 869 00:52:31,438 --> 00:52:35,339 Before I had a chance to digest this, he went down, 870 00:52:35,439 --> 00:52:36,339 shot right through the chest. 871 00:52:36,439 --> 00:52:37,439 (bullet hitting) Boom! 872 00:52:38,804 --> 00:52:40,605 And all of a sudden 873 00:52:40,705 --> 00:52:44,571 what was a very well-laid ambush erupted. 874 00:52:45,871 --> 00:52:50,004 And it was so loud and so unexpected 875 00:52:50,105 --> 00:52:54,439 I was stunned for... for a little bit, you know. 876 00:52:54,538 --> 00:52:56,206 "What the fuck is going on?" 877 00:52:56,305 --> 00:53:00,139 NARRATOR: Heaney's radio operator, Private Terry Carpenter, 878 00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:02,673 got the company commander on the line. 879 00:53:02,773 --> 00:53:05,940 "We've run into something bad," Heaney said. 880 00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:10,940 At that moment, a bullet hit Carpenter in the head. 881 00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:12,539 HEANEY: I knew Terry was down. 882 00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:14,539 I knew Sergeant Mays was down. 883 00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:17,039 I had asked the first machine gun crew to come up 884 00:53:17,139 --> 00:53:18,841 and start laying down machine gun fire. 885 00:53:18,941 --> 00:53:21,373 They got blown away pretty quickly. 886 00:53:21,473 --> 00:53:24,841 They never really had a chance to lay down much fire. 887 00:53:24,941 --> 00:53:26,674 At that point there wasn't anybody left 888 00:53:26,774 --> 00:53:28,640 in my forward unit. 889 00:53:28,741 --> 00:53:31,640 Every one of them had been taken down except me. 890 00:53:31,741 --> 00:53:33,506 Every one. 891 00:53:33,607 --> 00:53:35,906 (voice breaking): Every one had been killed 892 00:53:36,006 --> 00:53:38,107 or mortally wounded at that point. 893 00:53:42,442 --> 00:53:43,807 NARRATOR: Night fell. 894 00:53:43,907 --> 00:53:45,874 What was left of Heaney's company braced 895 00:53:45,974 --> 00:53:49,675 for the assault they assumed would come at dawn. 896 00:53:50,842 --> 00:53:52,842 I was lying there on the perimeter. 897 00:53:52,942 --> 00:53:55,108 I was right next to a dead enemy soldier. 898 00:53:55,208 --> 00:53:57,942 It was kind of my face and his feet 899 00:53:58,041 --> 00:53:59,641 and I kept looking back at him, 900 00:53:59,742 --> 00:54:02,275 because I couldn't see any wounds on him. 901 00:54:02,374 --> 00:54:04,808 And, you know, the strange things you think, 902 00:54:04,908 --> 00:54:06,575 "This guy's going to kill me. 903 00:54:06,676 --> 00:54:07,975 "He's faking it. 904 00:54:08,075 --> 00:54:09,351 "He's waiting until the assault, 905 00:54:09,375 --> 00:54:11,375 then he's going to jump up and kill me." 906 00:54:11,475 --> 00:54:12,975 And I almost shot him again. 907 00:54:13,075 --> 00:54:14,743 Just to make sure he was dead. 908 00:54:16,276 --> 00:54:18,542 NARRATOR: Then the enemy began to lob mortar shells 909 00:54:18,642 --> 00:54:20,908 among Heaney's men. 910 00:54:21,008 --> 00:54:23,109 HEANEY: I felt like somebody had taken a bat 911 00:54:23,209 --> 00:54:27,344 and hit me on my calf, my right calf, as hard as he could. 912 00:54:27,444 --> 00:54:32,444 I was so stunned by the shock of being hit, 913 00:54:32,543 --> 00:54:37,677 and I just drew in a deep breath of air in terrible pain. 914 00:54:37,777 --> 00:54:40,076 I couldn't speak. 915 00:54:40,177 --> 00:54:43,009 Right after the ambush happened, 916 00:54:43,110 --> 00:54:44,976 and I knew I'd lost a bunch of guys, 917 00:54:45,076 --> 00:54:49,278 I said a prayer to God saying, basically, 918 00:54:49,377 --> 00:54:51,910 "If you need any more guys from my platoon, take me. 919 00:54:52,010 --> 00:54:53,945 Don't take any more of my men." 920 00:54:54,044 --> 00:54:57,377 As soon as I said it, I freaked myself out and said, 921 00:54:57,477 --> 00:55:01,178 "Holy shit, can I take that prayer back?" 922 00:55:01,278 --> 00:55:02,310 But it was too late. 923 00:55:02,410 --> 00:55:03,877 I'd-I'd said it. 924 00:55:03,977 --> 00:55:05,310 And as it turns out, 925 00:55:05,410 --> 00:55:09,010 not one more man in my platoon died after that prayer. 926 00:55:10,577 --> 00:55:14,846 NARRATOR: American artillery finally zeroed in on the enemy. 927 00:55:14,946 --> 00:55:17,779 The survivors of Heaney's company stumbled down the hill 928 00:55:17,878 --> 00:55:19,578 to safety. 929 00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:22,578 He was carried to a hospital. 930 00:55:30,446 --> 00:55:33,311 HEANEY: I was lying on my bed sobbing. 931 00:55:33,411 --> 00:55:35,747 And this nurse came over. 932 00:55:35,847 --> 00:55:37,447 She bent over and said, "Lieutenant... 933 00:55:37,546 --> 00:55:39,947 "You... the-the your men are all over the place. 934 00:55:40,046 --> 00:55:42,113 You've gotta stop crying." 935 00:55:42,213 --> 00:55:44,979 And at that point my platoon sergeant, 936 00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:48,447 huge black guy from Detroit whom I loved dearly, 937 00:55:48,546 --> 00:55:52,046 Sergeant Sam Hunt, he came over and he sat down next to me 938 00:55:52,146 --> 00:55:53,646 (voice breaking): and he took my hand 939 00:55:53,747 --> 00:55:55,113 and he said to this nurse, 940 00:55:55,213 --> 00:55:56,847 "Ma'am, this here lieutenant 941 00:55:56,948 --> 00:55:58,948 don't have to stop doing anything." 942 00:56:47,350 --> 00:56:50,683 (crowd shouting angrily) 943 00:56:50,783 --> 00:56:52,463 JOHN LAURENCE: The students are angry now. 944 00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:54,082 And the word is passed 945 00:56:54,183 --> 00:56:57,549 to gather at Saigon's main Buddhist pagoda after dark. 946 00:56:59,616 --> 00:57:00,982 JOHN QUINN: After all these years, 947 00:57:01,082 --> 00:57:04,450 the Vietnamese have learned to live with crises and war. 948 00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:07,816 But they haven't learned yet to live as a nation. 949 00:57:09,251 --> 00:57:11,516 JOHNSON: Now, Dean, what are we going to do? 950 00:57:11,617 --> 00:57:15,483 Are we moving to the point where it would be difficult for us 951 00:57:15,583 --> 00:57:17,383 to ask people to continue to die out there, 952 00:57:17,483 --> 00:57:20,416 this kind of stuff going on every two or three months? 953 00:57:20,516 --> 00:57:22,356 DEAN RUSK: I think not yet, sir, by any means. 954 00:57:22,451 --> 00:57:25,684 I think that this is still a minority problem. 955 00:57:25,784 --> 00:57:28,685 But political talk is not going to be able to get anywhere 956 00:57:28,785 --> 00:57:30,651 if they don't maintain the elements of order. 957 00:57:34,718 --> 00:57:37,551 NARRATOR: On May 15, 1966, 958 00:57:37,651 --> 00:57:40,785 the government of South Vietnam, the country for which 959 00:57:40,884 --> 00:57:43,384 so many Americans were risking their lives, 960 00:57:43,484 --> 00:57:46,252 again seemed on the brink of collapse. 961 00:57:48,685 --> 00:57:52,318 The ascendancy of Prime Minister Ky had dealt a severe blow 962 00:57:52,418 --> 00:57:55,085 to activist Buddhists, who had been demanding 963 00:57:55,186 --> 00:57:58,885 representative government and a negotiated end to the war 964 00:57:58,985 --> 00:58:01,186 since 1963. 965 00:58:01,286 --> 00:58:05,286 When Ky suddenly fired a rival general, 966 00:58:05,385 --> 00:58:07,119 a popular Buddhist commander, 967 00:58:07,219 --> 00:58:12,485 demonstrators poured into the streets of Hue and Danang. 968 00:58:12,585 --> 00:58:14,854 They shut down the port 969 00:58:14,954 --> 00:58:17,153 through which U.S. supplies had been flowing. 970 00:58:19,254 --> 00:58:23,220 Some South Vietnamese soldiers, loyal to the dismissed general, 971 00:58:23,319 --> 00:58:25,854 abandoned the struggle against the communists 972 00:58:25,954 --> 00:58:28,386 and headed for the city. 973 00:58:28,486 --> 00:58:31,854 Angry crowds burned American jeeps. 974 00:58:31,954 --> 00:58:35,987 Signs reading "Peace!" and "Americans Go Home!" 975 00:58:36,087 --> 00:58:37,788 appeared everywhere. 976 00:58:37,887 --> 00:58:41,054 President Johnson was so concerned, 977 00:58:41,154 --> 00:58:44,721 he asked his advisors to ready a fallback position 978 00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:46,820 if the Ky government fell. 979 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,520 If necessary, he said, the U.S. should be prepared 980 00:58:50,621 --> 00:58:53,087 to get out of Vietnam and perhaps 981 00:58:53,188 --> 00:58:57,487 make a stand against communism in Thailand instead. 982 00:58:59,655 --> 00:59:01,756 Ky ordered South Vietnamese soldiers 983 00:59:01,856 --> 00:59:04,521 to surround and subdue Danang, 984 00:59:04,622 --> 00:59:08,388 where they exchanged fire with their former comrades. 985 00:59:12,021 --> 00:59:17,321 As Ky's forces stormed Buddhist pagodas in Danang, 986 00:59:17,421 --> 00:59:20,488 his warplanes strafed dissident troops 987 00:59:20,588 --> 00:59:22,322 occupying the central market. 988 00:59:25,322 --> 00:59:27,056 The rebellion was crushed. 989 00:59:27,156 --> 00:59:30,056 Washington was relieved. 990 00:59:30,156 --> 00:59:33,922 Ky seemed to be back in control. 991 00:59:34,022 --> 00:59:38,322 But from his command post on a hilltop outside the city, 992 00:59:38,422 --> 00:59:41,822 an American Marine lieutenant had watched in disbelief 993 00:59:41,922 --> 00:59:45,624 as two battles unfolded simultaneously: 994 00:59:45,724 --> 00:59:50,890 in the west, his fellow Marines were fighting the Viet Cong; 995 00:59:50,990 --> 00:59:54,691 in the east, the South Vietnamese army 996 00:59:54,791 --> 00:59:57,624 seemed to be at war with itself. 997 01:00:02,557 --> 01:00:05,291 (Simon and Garfunkel's "The Sound of Silence" playing) 998 01:00:05,390 --> 01:00:08,391 ♪ Hello darkness, my old friend. ♪ 999 01:00:08,491 --> 01:00:11,424 MOGIE CROCKER (dramatized): May 16, 1966. 1000 01:00:11,524 --> 01:00:14,024 Dear Mom and Dad... 1001 01:00:14,125 --> 01:00:16,058 Our operation here on the Cambodian border 1002 01:00:16,158 --> 01:00:18,359 has been quite a success. 1003 01:00:18,459 --> 01:00:20,725 No doubt you will hear about it on the news. 1004 01:00:22,091 --> 01:00:24,324 We keep getting more and more operations thrown at us 1005 01:00:24,424 --> 01:00:26,459 so that nothing is very sure. 1006 01:00:26,558 --> 01:00:31,260 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: ♪ ...that was planted in my brain still remains. ♪ 1007 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,226 CROCKER: Whether I will go out again soon I don't know, 1008 01:00:34,325 --> 01:00:35,726 but don't plan on steady mail. 1009 01:00:38,992 --> 01:00:41,260 Tell Randy I'm looking forward to seeing his new dog. 1010 01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:47,559 I may take a 15-day leave to Tokyo 1011 01:00:47,659 --> 01:00:49,492 to keep from cracking up. 1012 01:00:49,592 --> 01:00:52,227 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: ♪ 'Neath the halo of a street lamp. ♪ 1013 01:00:52,326 --> 01:00:54,206 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: It was a lovely spring day, 1014 01:00:54,294 --> 01:00:57,426 and I opened the letter that said that. 1015 01:00:57,526 --> 01:01:00,393 And I was just really devastated 1016 01:01:00,493 --> 01:01:04,660 because by that time Vietnam was in total chaos. 1017 01:01:04,761 --> 01:01:07,194 There was a continuing changeover 1018 01:01:07,294 --> 01:01:11,361 of people in authority at the government in South Vietnam. 1019 01:01:11,461 --> 01:01:14,994 And there were protests of the Buddhist monks and others 1020 01:01:15,094 --> 01:01:16,295 that... 1021 01:01:16,394 --> 01:01:18,327 there were anti-American demonstrations. 1022 01:01:18,427 --> 01:01:21,128 I just thought, "Why? Why are we there?" 1023 01:01:22,862 --> 01:01:24,838 CAROL CROCKER: I think that letter when my brother 1024 01:01:24,862 --> 01:01:27,462 showed a kind of despair 1025 01:01:27,561 --> 01:01:30,827 is probably the first time he'd expressed that openly 1026 01:01:30,927 --> 01:01:33,728 to the whole family. 1027 01:01:37,363 --> 01:01:41,828 It echoed back to the day he'd said to me, 1028 01:01:41,928 --> 01:01:43,463 "I don't want to go back." 1029 01:01:44,963 --> 01:01:46,763 NARRATOR: To an old high school friend, 1030 01:01:46,863 --> 01:01:50,828 Mogie was even more forthcoming. 1031 01:01:50,928 --> 01:01:53,528 MOGIE CROCKER (dramatized): Dear Duff, 1032 01:01:53,629 --> 01:01:55,963 Since I last wrote, which is several months, 1033 01:01:56,062 --> 01:01:58,162 a number of exciting but terribly unpleasant events 1034 01:01:58,263 --> 01:02:02,063 have occurred, the worst of which was being pinned down 1035 01:02:02,163 --> 01:02:03,596 by two Chinese light machine guns 1036 01:02:03,697 --> 01:02:06,197 firing 900 rounds per minute 1037 01:02:06,297 --> 01:02:08,996 and having my best friend killed more or less beside me. 1038 01:02:11,163 --> 01:02:12,730 Someday I may tell you the whole story 1039 01:02:12,829 --> 01:02:15,663 if my nerves aren't completely gone by then. 1040 01:02:15,764 --> 01:02:19,063 Actually the latter is just wishful thinking, 1041 01:02:19,163 --> 01:02:23,430 in false hope they will take me off the line. 1042 01:02:23,530 --> 01:02:27,430 I was fantastically religious for a while, 1043 01:02:27,530 --> 01:02:30,698 sending up various and sundry prayers mainly concerned 1044 01:02:30,798 --> 01:02:33,765 with trying to stay alive, 1045 01:02:33,865 --> 01:02:38,397 but I am once again an atheist until the shooting starts. 1046 01:02:44,097 --> 01:02:46,031 (gunfire) 1047 01:02:51,366 --> 01:02:55,431 (drums playing up-tempo march cadence) 1048 01:02:55,531 --> 01:02:57,065 HARRISON: I really believed 1049 01:02:57,165 --> 01:03:01,466 that we had to stop the communist expansion. 1050 01:03:01,565 --> 01:03:06,632 I also believed that we were on the side of the angels. 1051 01:03:06,732 --> 01:03:09,200 Just as France had provided us with support 1052 01:03:09,300 --> 01:03:12,332 during our revolution, we were providing the South Vietnamese 1053 01:03:12,432 --> 01:03:14,566 with support during their revolution. 1054 01:03:14,666 --> 01:03:18,267 NARRATOR: Matthew Harrison was among the 300 graduates 1055 01:03:18,367 --> 01:03:22,932 of the class of 1966 who volunteered to go to Vietnam. 1056 01:03:23,032 --> 01:03:23,932 MAN: Rangers! 1057 01:03:24,032 --> 01:03:25,066 MEN: Rangers! 1058 01:03:25,166 --> 01:03:26,832 MAN: All the way! MEN: All the way! 1059 01:03:26,932 --> 01:03:30,433 NARRATOR: But first, he went to Florida to become a Ranger 1060 01:03:30,533 --> 01:03:33,234 and endured nine weeks of the most demanding training 1061 01:03:33,333 --> 01:03:35,234 the Army had to offer. 1062 01:03:35,333 --> 01:03:37,833 MAN: Airborne daddy gonna take a little trip! 1063 01:03:37,933 --> 01:03:40,500 MEN: Airborne daddy gonna take a little trip! 1064 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,201 NARRATOR: The man in charge was Major Charles A. Beckwith... 1065 01:03:44,301 --> 01:03:45,667 Chargin' Charlie... 1066 01:03:45,768 --> 01:03:48,933 hero of the siege of Plei Me the year before. 1067 01:03:49,033 --> 01:03:53,469 "If a man is bloody stupid," he told each group of newcomers, 1068 01:03:53,568 --> 01:03:56,869 "his mother will receive a telegram and it will say, 1069 01:03:56,969 --> 01:03:59,735 "'Your son is dead because he's stupid.' 1070 01:03:59,834 --> 01:04:05,135 "Let's hope your telegram only reads, 'Your son is dead.' 1071 01:04:05,235 --> 01:04:08,269 "With the training we're going to give you here, 1072 01:04:08,369 --> 01:04:12,269 "maybe your mother won't receive any telegram at all. 1073 01:04:12,369 --> 01:04:14,269 So pay attention." 1074 01:04:15,569 --> 01:04:16,803 To make it through, 1075 01:04:16,902 --> 01:04:19,002 Harrison and his fellow trainees had to survive 1076 01:04:19,102 --> 01:04:23,470 days without sleep; were deprived of food and water, 1077 01:04:23,569 --> 01:04:27,535 forced to march up mountains until their feet bled 1078 01:04:27,636 --> 01:04:31,169 and patrol through swamps that harbored copperheads 1079 01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:32,502 and cottonmouths; 1080 01:04:32,602 --> 01:04:35,636 had to learn how to detect booby traps 1081 01:04:35,736 --> 01:04:40,871 and outmaneuver veterans masquerading as Viet Cong. 1082 01:04:40,971 --> 01:04:45,271 "Expect the unexpected," Beckwith told his trainees 1083 01:04:45,371 --> 01:04:47,003 again and again. 1084 01:04:47,103 --> 01:04:50,403 "Life is unfair." 1085 01:04:51,771 --> 01:04:53,771 Once he'd become a Ranger, Harrison was eager 1086 01:04:53,871 --> 01:04:57,670 to get to Vietnam and put into action 1087 01:04:57,771 --> 01:05:01,205 the survival and leadership skills he'd been absorbing 1088 01:05:01,305 --> 01:05:03,571 for five years. 1089 01:05:03,671 --> 01:05:06,604 HARRISON: I remember discussing with my classmates 1090 01:05:06,705 --> 01:05:09,104 how horrible it would be to serve in the Army 1091 01:05:09,205 --> 01:05:13,571 if everybody just a year ahead of us had served in combat 1092 01:05:13,671 --> 01:05:15,937 and we didn't have the opportunity to do that. 1093 01:05:16,037 --> 01:05:19,205 I was afraid we were going to win the war too quickly 1094 01:05:19,305 --> 01:05:22,004 and I wouldn't have a chance to experience it. 1095 01:05:30,206 --> 01:05:33,605 ("L'Assassinat De Carala" by Miles Davis playing) 1096 01:05:45,506 --> 01:05:51,339 NARRATOR: June 3, 1966, was Mogie Crocker's 19th birthday. 1097 01:05:51,439 --> 01:05:55,006 His company was involved in yet another campaign, 1098 01:05:55,106 --> 01:05:58,774 aimed at finding and killing North Vietnamese troops 1099 01:05:58,874 --> 01:06:03,406 filtering into the Central Highlands from Laos. 1100 01:06:03,506 --> 01:06:07,406 As night fell, Mogie and his squad were ordered 1101 01:06:07,506 --> 01:06:09,674 to move up toward the crest of a hill 1102 01:06:09,775 --> 01:06:13,107 overlooking a besieged ARVN outpost 1103 01:06:13,208 --> 01:06:15,275 so that artillery could be brought up 1104 01:06:15,375 --> 01:06:18,741 and positioned to shell the enemy in the morning. 1105 01:06:21,708 --> 01:06:25,540 They moved slowly, warily up the slope. 1106 01:06:25,641 --> 01:06:27,708 Mogie was the point man. 1107 01:06:30,709 --> 01:06:33,408 Out of the darkness, a machine gun opened up. 1108 01:06:33,509 --> 01:06:36,041 (gunfire) 1109 01:06:36,142 --> 01:06:40,808 Denton Crocker, Jr. never made it to the top of the hill. 1110 01:06:48,875 --> 01:06:50,651 ("One Too Many Mornings" by Bob Dylan playing) 1111 01:06:50,675 --> 01:06:52,875 DYLAN: ♪ Down the street the dogs are barkin' ♪ 1112 01:06:52,976 --> 01:06:56,643 ♪ And the day is a-gettin' dark. ♪ 1113 01:06:56,742 --> 01:07:00,242 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: It was just a lovely day to be out in our garden. 1114 01:07:02,143 --> 01:07:05,977 Candy, our little girl, went to a birthday party. 1115 01:07:06,077 --> 01:07:09,309 And the other children were just around the house, I guess. 1116 01:07:09,409 --> 01:07:14,376 But shortly after lunchtime, I stepped out on the porch. 1117 01:07:18,644 --> 01:07:21,910 I saw two men in uniform coming to the house. 1118 01:07:24,578 --> 01:07:28,177 And I knew something terrible had happened. 1119 01:07:29,543 --> 01:07:31,144 And I ran down the steps. 1120 01:07:31,243 --> 01:07:33,810 And I just grabbed hold of one of them and said, 1121 01:07:33,910 --> 01:07:35,778 "Don't tell me. Don't say it. 1122 01:07:35,877 --> 01:07:38,444 Not my beautiful boy." 1123 01:07:38,544 --> 01:07:40,945 And he just said, "Yes." 1124 01:07:41,044 --> 01:07:42,988 DYLAN: ♪ From the crossroads of my doorstep ♪ 1125 01:07:43,012 --> 01:07:45,044 ♪ My eyes start to fade. 1126 01:07:45,145 --> 01:07:47,585 CAROL CROCKER: I was sitting on the couch in the living room. 1127 01:07:47,645 --> 01:07:51,544 I suddenly heard my mother screaming for my father. 1128 01:07:51,645 --> 01:07:55,579 Like in a movie, here came the priest up the stairs 1129 01:07:55,678 --> 01:07:58,079 with a soldier, and she's going, "Oh no." 1130 01:07:58,178 --> 01:08:01,879 And she's calling my dad. 1131 01:08:01,980 --> 01:08:04,745 My reaction was to leap up off the couch, 1132 01:08:04,845 --> 01:08:06,312 race out the back door 1133 01:08:06,412 --> 01:08:08,345 and I grabbed my little brother's hand 1134 01:08:08,446 --> 01:08:09,812 and I just started walking. 1135 01:08:09,912 --> 01:08:12,312 I said, "You have to come with me." 1136 01:08:12,412 --> 01:08:14,080 I said, "I have something to show you." 1137 01:08:14,179 --> 01:08:16,179 I have no idea where I was going. 1138 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:21,013 I just said to myself, "No. 1139 01:08:21,112 --> 01:08:22,480 This isn't going to happen." 1140 01:08:22,580 --> 01:08:26,246 And something made me turn around 1141 01:08:26,346 --> 01:08:30,346 and I walked up to the back of the house from the alley. 1142 01:08:30,447 --> 01:08:33,313 And my dad was standing there. 1143 01:08:33,413 --> 01:08:36,947 And I fell into his arms and I said, 1144 01:08:37,046 --> 01:08:38,880 "Don't let it be true, Dad. 1145 01:08:41,246 --> 01:08:43,313 Is it true?" 1146 01:08:43,413 --> 01:08:44,981 And he said, "Yes." 1147 01:08:48,015 --> 01:08:51,215 I somehow knew that things had changed forever. 1148 01:08:52,914 --> 01:08:55,948 That my mom as my mom and my dad as my dad, 1149 01:08:56,047 --> 01:08:59,082 it was never going to be quite the same again. 1150 01:08:59,181 --> 01:09:01,082 I just, I remember sitting on the couch 1151 01:09:01,181 --> 01:09:03,181 and I put my arms around them and I said, 1152 01:09:03,282 --> 01:09:06,482 "We'll love each other and we'll be all right." 1153 01:09:06,582 --> 01:09:09,882 But I don't know how far it carried. 1154 01:09:09,983 --> 01:09:11,248 You know? 1155 01:09:11,348 --> 01:09:13,848 We all tried. 1156 01:09:13,949 --> 01:09:16,615 DYLAN: ♪ We're both just one too many mornings ♪ 1157 01:09:16,716 --> 01:09:19,716 ♪ And a thousand miles behind. 1158 01:09:19,815 --> 01:09:22,283 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: Carol said to me one day 1159 01:09:22,382 --> 01:09:24,748 very shortly after Denton was killed, 1160 01:09:24,848 --> 01:09:29,548 probably that very day, "How can you believe in God?" 1161 01:09:29,649 --> 01:09:32,784 And I said, "Because we had Mogie." 1162 01:09:36,049 --> 01:09:40,650 And I think that his life was a real gift. 1163 01:09:40,749 --> 01:09:43,849 It was a privilege to have him. 1164 01:09:43,950 --> 01:09:45,116 A friend wrote to me, 1165 01:09:45,217 --> 01:09:48,883 "Our children are really only on loan to us," 1166 01:09:48,984 --> 01:09:50,883 which I guess is true. 1167 01:09:53,383 --> 01:09:57,151 NARRATOR: Ten days later, an Army captain escorted Mogie's body 1168 01:09:57,250 --> 01:09:59,518 to Dick Stone's funeral home. 1169 01:09:59,617 --> 01:10:02,518 The family priest had suggested 1170 01:10:02,617 --> 01:10:05,018 that Mogie be buried in Saratoga Springs 1171 01:10:05,117 --> 01:10:09,050 so that his parents could easily visit his grave. 1172 01:10:09,151 --> 01:10:13,884 But they chose Arlington National Cemetery instead. 1173 01:10:15,250 --> 01:10:19,486 "A corner of my heart knew," his mother remembered, 1174 01:10:19,586 --> 01:10:21,219 "that if he were buried near us, 1175 01:10:21,318 --> 01:10:26,019 I would want to claw the ground to retrieve the warmth of him." 1176 01:10:32,152 --> 01:10:33,486 (applause) 1177 01:10:33,586 --> 01:10:35,118 LYNDON JOHNSON: I hear my friends say, 1178 01:10:35,219 --> 01:10:37,551 "I am troubled," and "I am confused," 1179 01:10:37,652 --> 01:10:39,051 and "I am frustrated," 1180 01:10:39,152 --> 01:10:41,720 and all of us can understand those people. 1181 01:10:41,819 --> 01:10:44,787 Sometimes I almost develop a stomach ulcer myself, 1182 01:10:44,886 --> 01:10:46,953 just listening to them. 1183 01:10:47,052 --> 01:10:49,720 And we all wish the war would end. 1184 01:10:49,819 --> 01:10:51,953 We all wish the troops would come home. 1185 01:10:52,052 --> 01:10:55,252 There is no human being in all this world 1186 01:10:55,352 --> 01:10:59,020 who wishes these things to happen, 1187 01:10:59,119 --> 01:11:01,087 for peace to come to the world, 1188 01:11:01,186 --> 01:11:03,788 more than your president of the United States. 1189 01:11:03,887 --> 01:11:07,288 ("The Beginning of the End" by Nine Inch Nails playing) 1190 01:11:14,253 --> 01:11:16,154 NARRATOR: The military claimed to have killed 1191 01:11:16,253 --> 01:11:22,887 some 57,000 enemy soldiers in the first six months of 1966. 1192 01:11:22,988 --> 01:11:25,921 But privately the administration worried 1193 01:11:26,022 --> 01:11:28,921 that General Westmoreland's "crossover point"... 1194 01:11:29,022 --> 01:11:32,254 the moment when more enemy soldiers had been killed 1195 01:11:32,354 --> 01:11:36,289 than could be replaced... seemed no nearer. 1196 01:11:36,388 --> 01:11:40,089 From the first, the Joint Chiefs had urged the president 1197 01:11:40,188 --> 01:11:41,455 to be more aggressive... 1198 01:11:41,554 --> 01:11:47,188 to permit troops to pursue the enemy into Laos and Cambodia 1199 01:11:47,289 --> 01:11:52,090 and to expand the target list for bombing in North Vietnam. 1200 01:11:52,189 --> 01:11:56,290 Johnson still would not allow borders to be crossed 1201 01:11:56,389 --> 01:11:59,755 by regular ground troops for fear of bringing China 1202 01:11:59,855 --> 01:12:03,355 or even the Soviet Union into the war. 1203 01:12:03,456 --> 01:12:06,122 And he was wary of heavier bombing, 1204 01:12:06,223 --> 01:12:09,156 fearful of hitting more civilians. 1205 01:12:09,255 --> 01:12:11,991 But despite his concern, 1206 01:12:12,091 --> 01:12:15,756 the president now agreed to intensify the bombing campaign 1207 01:12:15,856 --> 01:12:18,423 called Operation Rolling Thunder. 1208 01:12:18,524 --> 01:12:21,591 He approved attacks on oil facilities 1209 01:12:21,690 --> 01:12:23,923 all over North Vietnam, 1210 01:12:24,024 --> 01:12:26,923 including some sites adjacent to the cities 1211 01:12:27,024 --> 01:12:30,591 of Haiphong and Hanoi. 1212 01:12:30,690 --> 01:12:32,623 His commanders assured him 1213 01:12:32,725 --> 01:12:35,391 that this would be a mortal blow to the enemy, 1214 01:12:35,492 --> 01:12:38,225 sure to force the North Vietnamese 1215 01:12:38,324 --> 01:12:39,891 to the bargaining table. 1216 01:12:47,391 --> 01:12:51,124 Tens of thousands of sorties were flown. 1217 01:12:54,191 --> 01:12:57,425 Many bombs hit their intended targets. 1218 01:12:57,526 --> 01:12:59,593 But many missed 1219 01:12:59,692 --> 01:13:03,392 and fell on residential neighborhoods instead, 1220 01:13:03,493 --> 01:13:06,392 just as the president had feared. 1221 01:13:10,892 --> 01:13:14,058 JOHNSON: Things are going reasonably well in the South, aren't they? 1222 01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:16,325 McNAMARA: Yes, I think so. 1223 01:13:16,425 --> 01:13:18,859 Because we think we're taking a heavy toll of them, 1224 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,626 but it just scares me to see what we're doing there 1225 01:13:21,727 --> 01:13:24,826 with God knows how many airplanes and helicopters 1226 01:13:24,926 --> 01:13:29,693 and firepower and going after a bunch of half-starved beggars. 1227 01:13:29,794 --> 01:13:31,960 This is what's going on in the South. 1228 01:13:32,059 --> 01:13:34,559 And the great danger is that, 1229 01:13:34,660 --> 01:13:39,259 that they can keep that up almost indefinitely. 1230 01:13:39,359 --> 01:13:41,303 The only thing that'll prevent it, Mr. President, 1231 01:13:41,327 --> 01:13:43,060 is their morale breaking. 1232 01:13:43,161 --> 01:13:45,560 There's no question but what the troops in the South, 1233 01:13:45,661 --> 01:13:47,194 the VC and North Vietnamese, 1234 01:13:47,295 --> 01:13:50,095 they know that we're bombing in the North. 1235 01:13:50,194 --> 01:13:51,694 And we just have a free rein. 1236 01:13:51,795 --> 01:13:53,370 And when they see they're getting killed 1237 01:13:53,394 --> 01:13:55,028 in such high rates in the South, 1238 01:13:55,127 --> 01:13:58,461 and they see that the supplies are less likely to come down 1239 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,236 from the North, I think it will just hurt their morale 1240 01:14:00,260 --> 01:14:01,327 a little bit more. 1241 01:14:01,427 --> 01:14:02,771 And to me that's the only way to win 1242 01:14:02,795 --> 01:14:04,662 because we're not killing enough of them 1243 01:14:04,761 --> 01:14:07,895 to make it impossible for the North to continue to fight. 1244 01:14:07,996 --> 01:14:10,761 But we are killing enough to destroy the morale 1245 01:14:10,861 --> 01:14:12,261 of those people down there 1246 01:14:12,361 --> 01:14:14,481 if they think this is going to have to go on forever. 1247 01:14:16,261 --> 01:14:17,328 JOHNSON: All right. 1248 01:14:17,428 --> 01:14:19,261 Go ahead, Bob. 1249 01:15:04,763 --> 01:15:08,363 McPEAK: People talk about collateral damage, but it means something. 1250 01:15:09,998 --> 01:15:12,564 You don't want to do collateral damage. 1251 01:15:12,665 --> 01:15:15,764 You want to do the damage you want to do. 1252 01:15:15,864 --> 01:15:17,732 That's the winning way to do this. 1253 01:15:25,732 --> 01:15:28,898 (distant, echoing shouting) 1254 01:15:31,465 --> 01:15:33,733 EVERETT ALVAREZ: Even though I was in a cell by myself 1255 01:15:33,832 --> 01:15:36,600 and others were in by themselves, we weren't alone. 1256 01:15:36,699 --> 01:15:39,166 We were together in this old French prison 1257 01:15:39,265 --> 01:15:42,065 halfway around the world from the United States. 1258 01:15:42,166 --> 01:15:46,666 Gradually I began to realize this could go on a long time. 1259 01:15:46,765 --> 01:15:50,100 A long time to me was like maybe a year or two. 1260 01:15:50,199 --> 01:15:54,466 I never dreamed it would be eight-and-a-half years. 1261 01:15:54,565 --> 01:15:59,167 NARRATOR: By the summer of 1966, Lieutenant Everett Alvarez, 1262 01:15:59,266 --> 01:16:02,200 the first American pilot to have been shot down 1263 01:16:02,301 --> 01:16:06,633 over North Vietnam, had been a captive for nearly two years 1264 01:16:06,734 --> 01:16:09,601 and had been joined in and around Hanoi 1265 01:16:09,700 --> 01:16:12,801 by more than 100 other downed airmen. 1266 01:16:12,900 --> 01:16:16,766 Even though the North Vietnamese considered them all 1267 01:16:16,866 --> 01:16:20,134 "aggressors," "criminals," and "air pirates" 1268 01:16:20,235 --> 01:16:23,634 rather than prisoners of war deserving of humane treatment, 1269 01:16:23,735 --> 01:16:27,434 Alvarez and the others had been treated relatively well 1270 01:16:27,535 --> 01:16:28,767 at first. 1271 01:16:28,867 --> 01:16:31,867 But that hadn't lasted long. 1272 01:16:31,968 --> 01:16:35,767 The men were soon forbidden to communicate with one another, 1273 01:16:35,867 --> 01:16:38,235 forced to bow to their jailers, 1274 01:16:38,334 --> 01:16:41,669 and told that their country had forgotten them. 1275 01:16:41,768 --> 01:16:45,236 They were subjected to isolation, beatings, 1276 01:16:45,335 --> 01:16:47,868 and hour upon hour of torture, 1277 01:16:47,969 --> 01:16:51,568 all aimed at forcing them to admit their guilt 1278 01:16:51,669 --> 01:16:56,068 and record statements denouncing the war. 1279 01:16:56,169 --> 01:16:57,603 (door slams) 1280 01:16:57,702 --> 01:17:00,435 ALVAREZ: When that cell door would open, when they would say, 1281 01:17:00,536 --> 01:17:05,970 "You, your turn," you know, the bottom just fell out of you, 1282 01:17:06,069 --> 01:17:09,136 and you knew that you may not come back. 1283 01:17:09,237 --> 01:17:14,403 The manacles, the ropes, the beatings, they broke bones. 1284 01:17:14,504 --> 01:17:16,336 They... they did everything. 1285 01:17:17,903 --> 01:17:19,569 My arms turned black 1286 01:17:19,670 --> 01:17:22,836 from the cuffs that cut off all circulation. 1287 01:17:22,936 --> 01:17:24,703 And they didn't let me die. 1288 01:17:24,804 --> 01:17:26,904 They just kept the pain. 1289 01:17:27,005 --> 01:17:30,070 That's when I realized that I was not a superhuman. 1290 01:17:33,770 --> 01:17:39,105 The first time I broke and gave them something, I felt so low. 1291 01:17:39,204 --> 01:17:42,505 I felt so little. 1292 01:17:44,671 --> 01:17:47,305 NARRATOR: Some of the men who were forced to record statements 1293 01:17:47,404 --> 01:17:51,838 did their best to make their true feelings known back home. 1294 01:17:51,938 --> 01:17:55,871 Commander Jeremiah Denton blinked his eyes to spell out 1295 01:17:55,972 --> 01:17:58,371 "torture" in Morse code. 1296 01:18:05,905 --> 01:18:09,438 On July 6, just one week after American bombs 1297 01:18:09,539 --> 01:18:12,372 had first fallen on Hanoi and Haiphong, 1298 01:18:12,473 --> 01:18:16,839 jailers rounded up Alvarez and 51 other prisoners, 1299 01:18:16,939 --> 01:18:19,406 and, while cameras rolled, 1300 01:18:19,507 --> 01:18:22,007 marched them through downtown Hanoi, 1301 01:18:22,107 --> 01:18:25,439 past the angry citizens of the city. 1302 01:18:25,540 --> 01:18:27,906 ALVAREZ: I could hear the crowd being whipped up. 1303 01:18:28,007 --> 01:18:31,939 And as I passed this one fellow with the megaphone, 1304 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,107 he looked at me and he yelled to the crowd. 1305 01:18:34,206 --> 01:18:37,273 "Alvarez, Alvarez, son of a bitch, son of a bitch!" 1306 01:18:37,373 --> 01:18:40,907 People started pressing in, throwing things... 1307 01:18:41,008 --> 01:18:43,008 bottles, shoes. 1308 01:18:43,108 --> 01:18:45,273 But the guards by this time were having a hard time 1309 01:18:45,373 --> 01:18:47,773 keeping the people away. 1310 01:18:47,873 --> 01:18:50,707 NARRATOR: The North Vietnamese had hoped to rally 1311 01:18:50,808 --> 01:18:55,207 international support for trying the prisoners as war criminals. 1312 01:18:55,308 --> 01:18:57,207 It backfired. 1313 01:18:57,308 --> 01:19:01,542 People everywhere, even many of those who opposed the war, 1314 01:19:01,641 --> 01:19:05,675 sympathized with the stumbling, helpless men. 1315 01:19:07,042 --> 01:19:10,009 Plans for public trials were canceled. 1316 01:19:12,274 --> 01:19:16,809 The bombing continued, and more American planes were shot down. 1317 01:19:19,641 --> 01:19:24,176 The North Vietnamese took pride in capturing American airmen. 1318 01:19:24,275 --> 01:19:28,209 Even children were expected to do their part. 1319 01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:29,952 (call and response with teacher and children) 1320 01:19:29,976 --> 01:19:31,875 TEACHER: Hands up! Hand up! 1321 01:19:34,610 --> 01:19:35,676 Hands up! 1322 01:19:35,775 --> 01:19:36,575 Hands up! 1323 01:19:37,610 --> 01:19:38,610 Hands up! 1324 01:19:39,909 --> 01:19:42,142 McPEAK: The bombing around Hanoi and Haiphong 1325 01:19:42,243 --> 01:19:44,643 that resulted in so many of our people being POWs 1326 01:19:44,744 --> 01:19:45,876 for a long period of time 1327 01:19:45,977 --> 01:19:47,811 was fought out of the White House basement, 1328 01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:50,811 with the president himself picking targets, 1329 01:19:50,910 --> 01:19:52,710 and deciding that we're going to attack now, 1330 01:19:52,811 --> 01:19:54,843 and then we're going to pause for awhile. 1331 01:19:56,044 --> 01:20:00,643 Airpower was being misused, big time. 1332 01:20:04,076 --> 01:20:06,612 NARRATOR: Operation Rolling Thunder did destroy 1333 01:20:06,711 --> 01:20:11,144 most of North Vietnam's oil storage facilities. 1334 01:20:11,245 --> 01:20:14,144 But the North Vietnamese shifted 1335 01:20:14,245 --> 01:20:16,978 most of their oil to underground tanks, 1336 01:20:17,077 --> 01:20:22,911 and more arrived every day from China and the Soviet Union. 1337 01:20:26,077 --> 01:20:29,145 The bombing was stepped up anyway. 1338 01:20:31,145 --> 01:20:32,212 Throughout the North, 1339 01:20:32,313 --> 01:20:35,046 enough crude air shelters were fashioned 1340 01:20:35,145 --> 01:20:39,179 from concrete pipe buried five feet beneath the ground 1341 01:20:39,278 --> 01:20:42,246 to accommodate some 18 million people... 1342 01:20:42,345 --> 01:20:45,613 virtually the entire population. 1343 01:20:45,712 --> 01:20:49,578 (workers singing in Vietnamese) 1344 01:20:49,679 --> 01:20:53,614 Over a million people were said to be working around the clock 1345 01:20:53,713 --> 01:20:56,379 to undo what American bombs had done. 1346 01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:59,114 When key bridges were destroyed, 1347 01:20:59,213 --> 01:21:01,614 they fashioned pontoon bridges overnight 1348 01:21:01,713 --> 01:21:03,480 to keep traffic moving. 1349 01:21:03,579 --> 01:21:08,346 Crews waited along the roads with heaps of gravel and stone 1350 01:21:08,446 --> 01:21:12,446 and stacks of wood to fill bomb craters. 1351 01:21:12,547 --> 01:21:18,615 They worked under the slogan "The enemy destroys, we repair. 1352 01:21:18,714 --> 01:21:23,347 The enemy destroys, we repair again." 1353 01:21:23,447 --> 01:21:28,214 (workers continue singing) 1354 01:21:29,714 --> 01:21:32,080 WILLBANKS: Rolling Thunder was the dumbest campaign 1355 01:21:32,181 --> 01:21:34,515 ever devised by a human being. 1356 01:21:34,615 --> 01:21:36,781 The normal human thing to do 1357 01:21:36,881 --> 01:21:39,415 is to think that your enemy thinks like you. 1358 01:21:39,516 --> 01:21:42,415 There's the old story, apocryphal, 1359 01:21:42,516 --> 01:21:44,281 that when McNamara wants to know 1360 01:21:44,381 --> 01:21:47,381 what Ho Chi Minh is thinking, he interviews himself. 1361 01:21:47,482 --> 01:21:50,249 What the problem then becomes is 1362 01:21:50,348 --> 01:21:53,982 that you keep trying to send messages that are rational 1363 01:21:54,081 --> 01:21:56,415 based upon your judgment of rationality, 1364 01:21:56,516 --> 01:21:59,782 but have nothing to do with the definition of rationality 1365 01:21:59,882 --> 01:22:01,317 on the other side. 1366 01:22:02,617 --> 01:22:04,649 So what's irrational to us 1367 01:22:04,750 --> 01:22:06,550 is totally rational to the other side 1368 01:22:06,649 --> 01:22:11,349 if you've decided that you are going to reunify the Vietnams 1369 01:22:11,449 --> 01:22:15,817 no matter what it takes, no matter how many casualties. 1370 01:22:19,483 --> 01:22:22,350 NARRATOR: Hanoi did all it could to publicize the damage 1371 01:22:22,450 --> 01:22:25,717 American bombs were doing to civilians. 1372 01:22:25,818 --> 01:22:30,984 Most Americans dismissed the reports as communist propaganda. 1373 01:22:33,118 --> 01:22:36,350 But when Harrison Salisbury of theNew York Times 1374 01:22:36,450 --> 01:22:42,118 traveled to North Vietnam and reported on Christmas Day, 1966, 1375 01:22:42,217 --> 01:22:43,484 what he had seen, 1376 01:22:43,583 --> 01:22:47,784 public doubts about the morality of the war grew. 1377 01:22:49,218 --> 01:22:51,784 GELB: A lot of the military we talked to 1378 01:22:51,884 --> 01:22:56,185 shared our concerns about how the war was being fought, 1379 01:22:56,284 --> 01:22:58,619 and whether or not it could be won. 1380 01:22:58,718 --> 01:23:01,718 But when it came to an official position, 1381 01:23:01,819 --> 01:23:04,685 it was what we know well, 1382 01:23:04,784 --> 01:23:07,719 namely, "We can win this war and we're doing it right. 1383 01:23:07,820 --> 01:23:12,385 We just need more... more troops, more bombing." 1384 01:23:18,585 --> 01:23:23,120 WILSON: I recall on one instance after I had returned from Vietnam, 1385 01:23:23,219 --> 01:23:26,885 I went by to see McNamara. 1386 01:23:28,852 --> 01:23:33,286 He was saying, "Well, how is our strategic bombing program 1387 01:23:33,386 --> 01:23:35,853 affecting the course of the war?" 1388 01:23:37,054 --> 01:23:41,653 I said, "It is not gaining us anything. 1389 01:23:41,754 --> 01:23:45,453 Indeed, it is counterproductive." 1390 01:23:47,021 --> 01:23:48,321 He said, "What do you mean?" 1391 01:23:50,987 --> 01:23:57,221 "Mr. Secretary, the sledgehammer approach is not working. 1392 01:23:57,322 --> 01:24:00,322 "These people know that at some point 1393 01:24:00,421 --> 01:24:02,988 "we're going to get tired of killing them. 1394 01:24:03,087 --> 01:24:05,454 And they think they can outlast us." 1395 01:24:05,555 --> 01:24:10,154 And he said, "Why don't people tell me these things?" 1396 01:24:12,755 --> 01:24:16,189 I said, "Mr. Secretary, you don't ask." 1397 01:24:16,288 --> 01:24:19,588 ("I Am a Rock" by Simon and Garfunkel playing) 1398 01:24:19,689 --> 01:24:21,823 CRAIG McNAMARA: I think every father and son 1399 01:24:21,922 --> 01:24:27,689 struggles in the course of their lives together. 1400 01:24:27,788 --> 01:24:31,788 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: ♪ In a deep and dark December 1401 01:24:31,888 --> 01:24:37,223 CRAIG McNAMARA: And I don't think my dad and I were exempt from that. 1402 01:24:37,324 --> 01:24:39,923 The interesting thing for me is 1403 01:24:40,024 --> 01:24:43,589 the space to talk about Vietnam was never created. 1404 01:24:43,690 --> 01:24:47,656 And that was clearly a decision on my father's part. 1405 01:24:47,757 --> 01:24:49,557 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: ♪ I am a rock. 1406 01:24:49,656 --> 01:24:53,124 NARRATOR: Craig McNamara, the son of the Secretary of Defense, 1407 01:24:53,223 --> 01:24:55,356 was a student at St. Paul's School 1408 01:24:55,456 --> 01:24:57,089 in Concord, New Hampshire, 1409 01:24:57,190 --> 01:25:01,390 where a teach-in about the war was to be held. 1410 01:25:01,491 --> 01:25:04,890 I remember calling my father from a phone booth and saying, 1411 01:25:04,991 --> 01:25:07,157 "Dad, we're going to have this experience 1412 01:25:07,258 --> 01:25:08,991 "and if there's any support materials 1413 01:25:09,090 --> 01:25:14,357 that you think I should present, please let me know." 1414 01:25:15,857 --> 01:25:18,590 The support materials didn't come. 1415 01:25:18,691 --> 01:25:22,759 I think my father really wanted lovingly to protect me 1416 01:25:22,858 --> 01:25:26,026 from the Vietnam experience to the best of his ability. 1417 01:25:26,126 --> 01:25:27,858 Well, we know you can't do that. 1418 01:25:27,958 --> 01:25:32,026 Things bleed through and it just doesn't happen that way. 1419 01:25:32,126 --> 01:25:34,658 Probably, he realized at that time 1420 01:25:34,759 --> 01:25:39,591 that the support materials... weren't there. 1421 01:25:45,359 --> 01:25:47,702 ROBERT McNAMARA: Today I can tell you that military progress 1422 01:25:47,726 --> 01:25:52,327 in the past 12 months has exceeded our expectations. 1423 01:25:52,426 --> 01:25:54,327 The Viet Cong have been unable to mount 1424 01:25:54,426 --> 01:25:56,560 the offensive that they had planned 1425 01:25:56,659 --> 01:26:01,260 designed to cut the country in half at its narrow waist. 1426 01:26:01,359 --> 01:26:03,327 The military pressure, 1427 01:26:03,426 --> 01:26:05,493 which forces have brought against them, 1428 01:26:05,592 --> 01:26:07,103 have prevented them from mounting that offensive 1429 01:26:07,127 --> 01:26:10,494 and have inflicted very heavy casualties on them. 1430 01:26:10,593 --> 01:26:12,227 No matter how you measure it, 1431 01:26:12,328 --> 01:26:15,893 we're better off than we thought we would be at this time. 1432 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,037 ("Ain't Too Proud To Beg" by the Temptations playing) 1433 01:26:19,061 --> 01:26:21,761 ♪ I know you want to leave me... ♪ 1434 01:26:21,860 --> 01:26:23,670 EHRHART: Certainly when I arrived, I'm thinking 1435 01:26:23,694 --> 01:26:25,694 I'm involved in a winning enterprise. 1436 01:26:25,793 --> 01:26:27,561 I mean, America doesn't lose. 1437 01:26:27,660 --> 01:26:29,593 We never lose. 1438 01:26:29,694 --> 01:26:33,562 I had sort of not really known much about the War of 1812, 1439 01:26:33,661 --> 01:26:37,094 which was... pretty much of a draw, 1440 01:26:37,195 --> 01:26:40,394 or the Civil War in which half of America lost, 1441 01:26:40,495 --> 01:26:43,629 and the Korean War where we won the first half 1442 01:26:43,728 --> 01:26:44,829 and lost the second half. 1443 01:26:44,928 --> 01:26:47,629 But I'd been taught America never loses. 1444 01:26:47,728 --> 01:26:51,762 NARRATOR: The Marines had been the first American combat troops 1445 01:26:51,861 --> 01:26:53,862 to fight in Vietnam. 1446 01:26:53,962 --> 01:26:56,395 And they were expected to fight longer 1447 01:26:56,496 --> 01:27:00,895 than their Army counterparts... 13 months instead of 12. 1448 01:27:02,862 --> 01:27:04,696 Marine privates Bill Ehrhart, 1449 01:27:04,795 --> 01:27:09,395 John Musgrave, and Roger Harris all arrived at Danang 1450 01:27:09,496 --> 01:27:11,996 in early 1967. 1451 01:27:12,095 --> 01:27:16,264 MUSGRAVE: The first thing that assaulted my nose was the foreign smells. 1452 01:27:16,363 --> 01:27:18,697 And watching people relieve themselves 1453 01:27:18,796 --> 01:27:20,264 by the side of the road 1454 01:27:20,363 --> 01:27:23,163 and seeing animals I'd never seen before... 1455 01:27:23,264 --> 01:27:25,163 the big water buffaloes. 1456 01:27:25,264 --> 01:27:27,663 You know, it was like being on Mars, 1457 01:27:27,764 --> 01:27:31,463 because it was totally foreign to me. 1458 01:27:31,564 --> 01:27:36,230 But I honestly, in my dumb Missouri kid kind of way, 1459 01:27:36,331 --> 01:27:38,731 I thought, "Look at all those foreigners." 1460 01:27:38,832 --> 01:27:41,265 And it didn't dawn on me for a little while 1461 01:27:41,364 --> 01:27:44,565 that the only foreigner in that area was me. 1462 01:27:46,431 --> 01:27:50,164 HARRIS: The feeling was that we were going over to rescue folks. 1463 01:27:50,265 --> 01:27:53,332 And that the communists were taking over this country 1464 01:27:53,431 --> 01:27:55,431 and they needed help. 1465 01:27:55,532 --> 01:27:58,065 But then when we got there we realized that... 1466 01:27:58,164 --> 01:28:00,297 that it wasn't exactly like that, you know. 1467 01:28:00,397 --> 01:28:02,699 Many of the Vietnamese, they would spit at our trucks 1468 01:28:02,798 --> 01:28:04,699 and they'd tell us to go back to America. 1469 01:28:04,798 --> 01:28:06,408 And then, you know, we began questioning ourselves, 1470 01:28:06,432 --> 01:28:07,665 you know, why are we here? 1471 01:28:09,098 --> 01:28:10,865 These people don't want us here. 1472 01:28:12,965 --> 01:28:16,898 NARRATOR: Roger Harris was assigned to G Company, 2nd Battalion, 1473 01:28:16,999 --> 01:28:20,999 9th Regiment of the 3rd Marine Division at Phu Bai, 1474 01:28:21,098 --> 01:28:23,299 outside of Hue. 1475 01:28:23,399 --> 01:28:25,466 John Musgrave was first stationed 1476 01:28:25,567 --> 01:28:29,767 with the 1st Marine Division at the Danang Airbase. 1477 01:28:29,866 --> 01:28:32,433 And Bill Ehrhart joined the 1st Regiment 1478 01:28:32,534 --> 01:28:35,834 of the 1st Marine Division near the city of Hoi An. 1479 01:28:38,466 --> 01:28:40,433 Private Ehrhart was given a desk job, 1480 01:28:40,534 --> 01:28:42,634 collating snippets of information 1481 01:28:42,733 --> 01:28:44,899 for the daily intelligence summary. 1482 01:28:47,135 --> 01:28:49,268 Three days after he got to Hoi An, 1483 01:28:49,367 --> 01:28:54,535 a group of civilian detainees was brought into the compound. 1484 01:28:54,635 --> 01:28:58,068 EHRHART: These two amtracs come in the back gate. 1485 01:28:58,167 --> 01:29:00,600 The Marines up top start pushing them off. 1486 01:29:00,701 --> 01:29:02,311 Their hands are tied, their feet are tied, 1487 01:29:02,335 --> 01:29:04,035 they have no way to break their fall. 1488 01:29:04,135 --> 01:29:08,901 You literally can hear bones snapping, shoulders dislocate. 1489 01:29:09,002 --> 01:29:12,002 And I grab Corporal Sal, 1490 01:29:12,101 --> 01:29:15,101 and he says in the absolute flattest, hollowest voice 1491 01:29:15,202 --> 01:29:16,601 I've ever heard, 1492 01:29:16,702 --> 01:29:20,935 "Ehrhart, you better keep your mouth shut and your eyes open 1493 01:29:21,036 --> 01:29:23,301 "till you understand what's going on around here. 1494 01:29:23,401 --> 01:29:25,801 "Those trackers, they're hitting mines out there 1495 01:29:25,901 --> 01:29:27,735 "on the sand flats every day. 1496 01:29:27,836 --> 01:29:29,868 "They're getting killed; they're getting maimed. 1497 01:29:29,968 --> 01:29:33,436 "And these people know where those mines are. 1498 01:29:33,537 --> 01:29:37,169 "You treat these people nice in front of the trackers 1499 01:29:37,270 --> 01:29:38,469 "and those trackers 1500 01:29:38,570 --> 01:29:40,210 "will rearrange your head and ass for you 1501 01:29:40,302 --> 01:29:41,802 and walk away laughing." 1502 01:29:43,402 --> 01:29:46,570 Well, at that point, three days into Vietnam, 1503 01:29:46,669 --> 01:29:48,469 I'm thinking, "Whoa. 1504 01:29:48,570 --> 01:29:51,869 What the hell is going on here?" 1505 01:29:55,170 --> 01:29:57,638 I think it is destroying the good name 1506 01:29:57,737 --> 01:30:00,303 and the leadership of the United States. 1507 01:30:00,403 --> 01:30:05,338 Furthermore, I believe that the war is militarily unwinnable. 1508 01:30:05,437 --> 01:30:09,870 I believe that thousands of American young men 1509 01:30:09,970 --> 01:30:14,138 are being asked to die to save Lyndon Johnson's face. 1510 01:30:14,237 --> 01:30:17,705 He must know by now that this war is unwinnable, 1511 01:30:17,804 --> 01:30:20,171 but he does not know how to give up. 1512 01:30:20,272 --> 01:30:23,971 Therefore, I believe that young men are not only justified 1513 01:30:24,072 --> 01:30:27,104 but to be thanked if they point this out 1514 01:30:27,205 --> 01:30:31,072 by refusing to take part in such an outrageous war any longer. 1515 01:30:31,171 --> 01:30:34,971 ("Footprints" by Wayne Shorter playing) 1516 01:30:35,072 --> 01:30:38,339 NARRATOR: Dr. Benjamin Spock was the best-loved pediatrician 1517 01:30:38,438 --> 01:30:39,773 of his time; 1518 01:30:39,872 --> 01:30:43,805 millions of American parents had consulted his bestseller, 1519 01:30:43,905 --> 01:30:46,239 Baby and Child Care. 1520 01:30:46,340 --> 01:30:50,840 In early 1967, he wrote the preface to an article 1521 01:30:50,939 --> 01:30:53,640 in the leftist magazine Ramparts 1522 01:30:53,739 --> 01:30:59,305 on the impact of American napalm on South Vietnamese children. 1523 01:30:59,405 --> 01:31:04,207 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was among those who had read it. 1524 01:31:04,306 --> 01:31:07,440 He had been agonizing about the war for months. 1525 01:31:07,541 --> 01:31:10,373 But he had been reluctant to break openly 1526 01:31:10,473 --> 01:31:14,473 with Lyndon Johnson, who had done so much for civil rights. 1527 01:31:14,574 --> 01:31:18,740 Now he could no longer stay silent. 1528 01:31:18,841 --> 01:31:24,007 MARTIN LUTHER KING: I come to this magnificent house of worship tonight 1529 01:31:24,106 --> 01:31:29,107 because my conscience leaves me no other choice. 1530 01:31:29,208 --> 01:31:35,208 A time comes when silence is betrayal. 1531 01:31:35,307 --> 01:31:42,107 That time has come for us in relation to Vietnam. 1532 01:31:42,208 --> 01:31:44,150 ("Talking World War III Blues" by Bob Dylan playing) 1533 01:31:44,174 --> 01:31:47,375 NARRATOR: Eleven days later, King joined Dr. Spock 1534 01:31:47,475 --> 01:31:50,175 and perhaps half a million other protestors 1535 01:31:50,276 --> 01:31:53,576 at a massive demonstration in Central Park 1536 01:31:53,675 --> 01:31:55,776 organized by a new coalition, 1537 01:31:55,875 --> 01:32:00,543 the National Mobilization to End the War in Vietnam. 1538 01:32:00,643 --> 01:32:02,776 ♪ Some time ago a crazy dream came to me ♪ 1539 01:32:02,875 --> 01:32:05,843 ♪ I dreamt I was walkin' into World War III. ♪ 1540 01:32:05,942 --> 01:32:09,009 ZIMMERMAN: That was the biggest crowd any of us had ever been in 1541 01:32:09,108 --> 01:32:10,544 in our lives. 1542 01:32:10,644 --> 01:32:14,777 And when the front of the march got down to the United Nations, 1543 01:32:14,876 --> 01:32:17,809 the back of the march had not yet left Central Park. 1544 01:32:17,909 --> 01:32:21,144 That's how many people we were. 1545 01:32:25,809 --> 01:32:30,044 Not all of the people on that march were students. 1546 01:32:30,144 --> 01:32:34,977 And as a result, we all felt we have a chance now. 1547 01:32:35,078 --> 01:32:39,677 You know, there's a path that we could see to ending the war. 1548 01:32:43,211 --> 01:32:45,810 MARTIN LUTHER KING: Stop the bombing. 1549 01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:49,677 Let us save our national honor. 1550 01:32:49,778 --> 01:32:54,045 Stop the bombing, and stop the war. 1551 01:32:54,145 --> 01:32:59,012 Let us save American lives and Vietnamese lives. 1552 01:32:59,111 --> 01:33:02,712 Let us take a single instantaneous step 1553 01:33:02,811 --> 01:33:04,178 to the peace table. 1554 01:33:04,279 --> 01:33:05,779 Stop the bombing. 1555 01:33:07,311 --> 01:33:09,411 NARRATOR: The antiwar movement was growing 1556 01:33:09,512 --> 01:33:12,646 in numbers and militancy. 1557 01:33:12,745 --> 01:33:16,611 "We are no longer interested in merely protesting the war," 1558 01:33:16,712 --> 01:33:20,179 one organizer said, "we are out to stop it." 1559 01:33:23,047 --> 01:33:26,979 Meanwhile, some in the Johnson administration became convinced 1560 01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,312 the antiwar movement was a communist conspiracy 1561 01:33:30,412 --> 01:33:32,280 directed by Moscow. 1562 01:33:32,379 --> 01:33:37,112 The FBI and the CIA, which was barred by statute 1563 01:33:37,213 --> 01:33:39,612 from operating within the United States, 1564 01:33:39,713 --> 01:33:44,014 began infiltrating the movement, wiretapping its leaders, 1565 01:33:44,113 --> 01:33:49,180 even inciting violence in order to undercut their appeal. 1566 01:33:53,180 --> 01:33:56,214 ZIMMERMAN: At that time, people who supported the war 1567 01:33:56,313 --> 01:33:59,714 were fond of saying "My country right or wrong"; 1568 01:33:59,813 --> 01:34:02,782 "America, love it or leave it." 1569 01:34:02,881 --> 01:34:06,314 Or "Better dead than Red." 1570 01:34:06,414 --> 01:34:10,582 Those sentiments seemed insane to us. 1571 01:34:10,681 --> 01:34:12,849 We don't want to live in a country 1572 01:34:12,948 --> 01:34:15,215 that we're going to support whether it's right or wrong. 1573 01:34:15,314 --> 01:34:16,681 We want to live in a country 1574 01:34:16,782 --> 01:34:20,015 that acts rightly and doesn't act wrongly. 1575 01:34:20,114 --> 01:34:24,448 And if our country isn't doing that, it needs to be corrected. 1576 01:34:24,549 --> 01:34:27,749 So we had a very different idea of patriotism. 1577 01:34:27,850 --> 01:34:34,449 So we began an era in which two groups of Americans, 1578 01:34:34,550 --> 01:34:37,516 both thinking that they were acting patriotically, 1579 01:34:37,615 --> 01:34:39,815 went to war with each other. 1580 01:34:39,915 --> 01:34:43,650 Over 200,000 communist sympathizers 1581 01:34:43,749 --> 01:34:46,749 in that park this morning tried to burn this flag, 1582 01:34:46,850 --> 01:34:48,483 but they didn't succeed. 1583 01:34:48,584 --> 01:34:50,184 RICHARD NIXON: I would put it this way... 1584 01:34:50,250 --> 01:34:52,616 there's a monstrous myth abroad, 1585 01:34:52,717 --> 01:34:56,183 a myth which Hanoi creates and which it believes, 1586 01:34:56,284 --> 01:34:59,416 and that is that the United States is so divided 1587 01:34:59,517 --> 01:35:04,151 that if they just hang on that they will win in Washington, 1588 01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:06,493 and in the United States the victory that our fighting men 1589 01:35:06,517 --> 01:35:08,217 are denying them in field. 1590 01:35:08,316 --> 01:35:11,152 WESTMORELAND: As I have said before, 1591 01:35:11,251 --> 01:35:15,085 in evaluating the enemy strategy it is evident to me 1592 01:35:15,184 --> 01:35:18,817 that he believes our Achilles' heel is our resolve. 1593 01:35:20,218 --> 01:35:22,451 NARRATOR: Two weeks after the Manhattan protest, 1594 01:35:22,552 --> 01:35:26,718 General Westmoreland addressed a joint session of Congress, 1595 01:35:26,817 --> 01:35:30,117 the first general ever to be called home from a battlefield 1596 01:35:30,218 --> 01:35:32,718 by his president to do so. 1597 01:35:32,817 --> 01:35:38,485 Backed at home by resolve, confidence, patience, 1598 01:35:38,586 --> 01:35:41,653 determination, and continued support, 1599 01:35:41,752 --> 01:35:45,818 we will prevail in Vietnam over the communist aggressor. 1600 01:35:45,918 --> 01:35:47,385 (applause) 1601 01:35:47,485 --> 01:35:49,653 NARRATOR: Behind the scenes, 1602 01:35:49,752 --> 01:35:53,153 neither Westmoreland nor the administration he served 1603 01:35:53,252 --> 01:35:56,386 was confident the United States would prevail. 1604 01:35:57,919 --> 01:36:00,186 Westmoreland reported to the president 1605 01:36:00,287 --> 01:36:02,819 that according to the latest statistics, 1606 01:36:02,919 --> 01:36:06,819 the crossover point had finally been reached that spring, 1607 01:36:06,919 --> 01:36:11,319 except in the military sector just south of the DMZ. 1608 01:36:11,419 --> 01:36:15,520 But, he warned, the United States was doing little better 1609 01:36:15,619 --> 01:36:17,054 than holding its own. 1610 01:36:17,154 --> 01:36:20,887 If he were given 200,000 additional troops 1611 01:36:20,987 --> 01:36:24,254 and allowed to go into Laos and Cambodia, 1612 01:36:24,355 --> 01:36:26,420 he could cut off the Ho Chi Minh Trail 1613 01:36:26,521 --> 01:36:29,221 and end the war in two years. 1614 01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,687 But "When we add divisions," Johnson asked, 1615 01:36:32,788 --> 01:36:35,355 "can't the enemy add divisions? 1616 01:36:35,454 --> 01:36:37,655 Where does it all end?" 1617 01:36:37,754 --> 01:36:40,987 Westmoreland had no answer. 1618 01:36:41,089 --> 01:36:44,121 Instead, he and the Joint Chiefs asked the president 1619 01:36:44,222 --> 01:36:48,056 to permit them to bomb sites just below the Chinese border, 1620 01:36:48,156 --> 01:36:50,888 and to mine the harbors of North Vietnam 1621 01:36:50,988 --> 01:36:56,821 to keep Hanoi's Soviet ally from resupplying her by sea. 1622 01:36:56,921 --> 01:37:02,289 Meanwhile, Robert McNamara, the chief architect 1623 01:37:02,388 --> 01:37:05,456 of American strategy in Vietnam, 1624 01:37:05,557 --> 01:37:07,689 had grown less and less confident 1625 01:37:07,790 --> 01:37:09,922 in its ultimate success 1626 01:37:10,023 --> 01:37:13,989 and in the repeated calls for more men and more bombing 1627 01:37:14,090 --> 01:37:17,122 made by the military he oversaw. 1628 01:37:17,223 --> 01:37:22,256 GELB: Robert McNamara was the giant of Washington, D.C. 1629 01:37:22,357 --> 01:37:27,558 He was the embodiment of intellect and self-confidence. 1630 01:37:27,658 --> 01:37:31,224 If there was a problem, there had to be an answer. 1631 01:37:31,323 --> 01:37:34,358 And that was his fatal flaw. 1632 01:37:34,457 --> 01:37:37,123 The startling thing is 1633 01:37:37,224 --> 01:37:43,323 that this man who never seemed to doubt anything he said, 1634 01:37:43,423 --> 01:37:46,990 actually began to doubt profoundly what he was doing 1635 01:37:47,091 --> 01:37:48,623 in Vietnam. 1636 01:37:48,724 --> 01:37:50,324 But we didn't know about it. 1637 01:37:50,424 --> 01:37:53,824 NARRATOR: In a private memorandum to the president, 1638 01:37:53,924 --> 01:37:56,491 McNamara told Johnson that 1639 01:37:56,592 --> 01:37:59,359 "the picture of the world's greatest superpower 1640 01:37:59,458 --> 01:38:04,359 "killing or seriously injuring 1,000 non-combatants a week, 1641 01:38:04,458 --> 01:38:08,924 "while trying to pound a tiny, backward nation into submission 1642 01:38:09,025 --> 01:38:12,026 "on an issue whose merits are hotly disputed 1643 01:38:12,125 --> 01:38:14,125 is not a pretty one." 1644 01:38:14,226 --> 01:38:18,925 He urged the president to limit troop levels, not raise them, 1645 01:38:19,026 --> 01:38:23,125 and to declare an unconditional end to all bombing 1646 01:38:23,226 --> 01:38:25,692 north of the 20th parallel. 1647 01:38:25,793 --> 01:38:29,759 "The war in Vietnam is acquiring a momentum of its own 1648 01:38:29,860 --> 01:38:32,860 that must be stopped," McNamara wrote. 1649 01:38:32,959 --> 01:38:36,361 "Dramatic increases in U.S. troop deployments 1650 01:38:36,460 --> 01:38:39,326 "and attacks on the North are not necessary 1651 01:38:39,426 --> 01:38:41,094 "and are not the answer. 1652 01:38:41,193 --> 01:38:44,960 "The enemy can absorb them or counter them, 1653 01:38:45,061 --> 01:38:46,661 "bogging us down further 1654 01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:51,993 and risking even more serious escalation of the war." 1655 01:38:52,094 --> 01:38:56,794 In the end, Johnson tried to find a middle ground. 1656 01:38:56,894 --> 01:38:59,394 He expanded the list of bombing targets, 1657 01:38:59,494 --> 01:39:02,327 but he refused to mine the harbors 1658 01:39:02,427 --> 01:39:04,662 and he agreed to send Westmoreland 1659 01:39:04,761 --> 01:39:07,528 only 47,000 more troops, 1660 01:39:07,627 --> 01:39:10,827 which would bring the total of U.S. forces in the country 1661 01:39:10,927 --> 01:39:13,194 to more than half a million men. 1662 01:39:15,528 --> 01:39:20,729 On June 17, 1967, Robert McNamara placed a call 1663 01:39:20,828 --> 01:39:24,995 to his military assistant, Lieutenant Colonel Robert Gard. 1664 01:39:25,096 --> 01:39:28,163 GARD: My phone rang and the little light showed 1665 01:39:28,262 --> 01:39:30,863 it was the secretary on the line. 1666 01:39:30,962 --> 01:39:34,128 And I picked it up and said, "Yes, Mr. Secretary?" 1667 01:39:34,229 --> 01:39:36,096 And Mr. McNamara said, 1668 01:39:36,195 --> 01:39:38,828 "Bob, I want a thorough study done of the background 1669 01:39:38,928 --> 01:39:41,428 of our involvement in Vietnam," and hung up the phone. 1670 01:39:41,529 --> 01:39:44,896 NARRATOR: Leslie Gelb, a 30-year-old member 1671 01:39:44,996 --> 01:39:48,196 of the International Security Affairs staff, 1672 01:39:48,297 --> 01:39:51,329 was named to oversee the top-secret analysis 1673 01:39:51,429 --> 01:39:55,664 of how key decisions had been made, going all the way back 1674 01:39:55,763 --> 01:39:57,896 to the Truman administration. 1675 01:39:59,996 --> 01:40:04,930 GELB: McNamara gave us full access to his closet, 1676 01:40:05,031 --> 01:40:07,598 in his office, which was like a room. 1677 01:40:07,697 --> 01:40:10,130 But all his private papers were there. 1678 01:40:10,231 --> 01:40:12,665 And I was picking out the memos, 1679 01:40:12,764 --> 01:40:15,430 a lot of which I helped to write. 1680 01:40:15,531 --> 01:40:18,665 But there were others in there that I had never seen. 1681 01:40:18,764 --> 01:40:25,865 In these memos you began to see Robert McNamara communicating 1682 01:40:25,964 --> 01:40:31,032 with the president, alone, his doubts. 1683 01:40:31,131 --> 01:40:33,431 It stunned me. 1684 01:40:41,066 --> 01:40:43,998 HARRISON: I had thought that we were mostly fighting a guerrilla war. 1685 01:40:46,666 --> 01:40:52,932 I didn't know that we were going to be fighting guys like us, 1686 01:40:53,033 --> 01:40:54,867 that I had a doppelganger out there 1687 01:40:54,966 --> 01:41:00,233 who was leading a rifle platoon, who knew what he was doing, 1688 01:41:00,332 --> 01:41:05,766 who was as fully prepared to kill me as I was to kill him. 1689 01:41:05,867 --> 01:41:07,932 (band playing a march) 1690 01:41:08,033 --> 01:41:11,100 NARRATOR: That June, First Lieutenant Matthew Harrison 1691 01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:15,900 finally got his orders to join the 173rd Airborne, 1692 01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:20,200 an elite unit ready to rush anywhere they were needed. 1693 01:41:20,301 --> 01:41:25,801 They called themselves General Westmoreland's Fire Brigade. 1694 01:41:30,234 --> 01:41:33,700 Harrison's arrival at Bien Hoa was a reunion of sorts. 1695 01:41:33,801 --> 01:41:38,569 He and seven others from the West Point class of 1966 1696 01:41:38,669 --> 01:41:41,701 all found themselves serving in the 2nd Battalion, 1697 01:41:41,802 --> 01:41:45,102 including two especially close friends: 1698 01:41:45,201 --> 01:41:49,201 Donald Judd and Richard Hood. 1699 01:41:49,302 --> 01:41:52,468 HARRISON: As young lieutenants, as 22-year-olds, 1700 01:41:52,569 --> 01:41:57,669 we really were idealists and we really were Boy Scouts. 1701 01:41:57,768 --> 01:42:02,002 I really felt as though I was uniquely qualified 1702 01:42:02,103 --> 01:42:03,736 to lead American soldiers 1703 01:42:03,835 --> 01:42:06,135 and that there was nothing more important 1704 01:42:06,236 --> 01:42:08,635 than what I was going to be doing. 1705 01:42:08,736 --> 01:42:12,269 But when I joined the 173rd, 1706 01:42:12,370 --> 01:42:16,036 I think the first day I was there some guy showed me 1707 01:42:16,135 --> 01:42:19,969 what looked like a bunch of apricots on a leather thong. 1708 01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:23,636 Turns out they were ears, dried, desiccated. 1709 01:42:25,436 --> 01:42:29,136 I understood theoretically what it meant to be in a war. 1710 01:42:29,237 --> 01:42:32,171 But, of course, no one can really understand it 1711 01:42:32,270 --> 01:42:33,671 until they've done it. 1712 01:42:35,436 --> 01:42:38,503 ("Wild Child" by the Ventures playing) 1713 01:42:38,604 --> 01:42:41,336 NARRATOR: Harrison was a platoon leader in Charlie Company. 1714 01:42:41,436 --> 01:42:47,137 His West Point classmates served with Alpha Company. 1715 01:42:47,238 --> 01:42:49,504 Within a few days, 1716 01:42:49,605 --> 01:42:52,504 they were helicoptered into the heart of the Central Highlands 1717 01:42:52,605 --> 01:42:56,105 near Dak To, where North Vietnamese regulars 1718 01:42:56,204 --> 01:43:01,238 were said to be threatening a Special Forces camp. 1719 01:43:01,337 --> 01:43:04,137 They were all airlifted into landing zones 1720 01:43:04,238 --> 01:43:07,505 hacked out of the steep, jungle-blanketed slope 1721 01:43:07,606 --> 01:43:11,373 of a mountain the Americans called Hill 1338 1722 01:43:11,472 --> 01:43:16,806 for its height in meters, with orders to hunt down the enemy. 1723 01:43:16,905 --> 01:43:19,272 They walked for two days, 1724 01:43:19,373 --> 01:43:22,239 following a well-worn enemy trail, 1725 01:43:22,338 --> 01:43:26,972 constantly on the lookout for booby traps or ambushes. 1726 01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:33,339 On the evening of June 21, 1727 01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,706 Harrison's Charlie Company settled in for the night 1728 01:43:36,807 --> 01:43:40,206 while his friends in Alpha Company set up camp 1729 01:43:40,307 --> 01:43:42,639 a little less than two miles to the south, 1730 01:43:42,740 --> 01:43:46,506 along the same slippery jungle path. 1731 01:43:46,607 --> 01:43:51,375 No one knew that an entire North Vietnamese battalion... 1732 01:43:51,474 --> 01:43:53,875 perhaps 500 men... 1733 01:43:53,974 --> 01:43:56,707 was encamped on the other side of a ridgeline, 1734 01:43:56,808 --> 01:44:00,575 just a few hundred yards away. 1735 01:44:02,575 --> 01:44:04,575 At 6:58 the next morning, 1736 01:44:04,675 --> 01:44:08,407 a patrol from Alpha Company stumbled into a squad 1737 01:44:08,507 --> 01:44:10,175 of North Vietnamese. 1738 01:44:10,274 --> 01:44:13,175 The Americans withdrew 1739 01:44:13,274 --> 01:44:16,576 and struggled to establish a perimeter. 1740 01:44:16,676 --> 01:44:19,208 Within minutes, they were under attack 1741 01:44:19,309 --> 01:44:23,841 from relentless AK-47 automatic fire. 1742 01:44:23,941 --> 01:44:27,208 The enemy mounted attack after attack, 1743 01:44:27,309 --> 01:44:30,208 drawing closer each time. 1744 01:44:30,309 --> 01:44:34,141 Alpha Company radioed for air and artillery support, 1745 01:44:34,242 --> 01:44:38,243 but the triple-canopy jungle blocked the spotter's view. 1746 01:45:29,745 --> 01:45:33,112 NARRATOR: At around noon, Harrison's unit was ordered to rescue 1747 01:45:33,211 --> 01:45:36,144 the trapped men of Alpha Company. 1748 01:45:36,245 --> 01:45:39,911 HARRISON: It was mountainous terrain. 1749 01:45:40,011 --> 01:45:41,745 We were carrying two bodies 1750 01:45:41,844 --> 01:45:44,313 along with a bunch of engineer equipment. 1751 01:45:44,412 --> 01:45:49,645 And we could not push down the couple of hundred meters 1752 01:45:49,746 --> 01:45:52,712 to where the most of the fighting had taken place. 1753 01:45:52,813 --> 01:45:54,546 (explosion) 1754 01:45:54,645 --> 01:45:56,912 NARRATOR: The going was steep and slippery. 1755 01:45:57,012 --> 01:45:59,080 North Vietnamese troops, 1756 01:45:59,180 --> 01:46:01,979 now entrenched along both sides of the trail, 1757 01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:06,712 prevented Matt Harrison and his men from reaching Alpha Company. 1758 01:46:06,813 --> 01:46:10,381 At dusk, the shooting died down, 1759 01:46:10,480 --> 01:46:12,913 and they dug in at the top of a ridge 1760 01:46:13,013 --> 01:46:15,980 and did their best to sleep. 1761 01:46:17,780 --> 01:46:21,547 HARRISON: So we lay there on the night of June 22 1762 01:46:21,646 --> 01:46:26,146 and we could hear the screams of the wounded down the hill 1763 01:46:26,247 --> 01:46:30,847 as the North Vietnamese went around and shot them. 1764 01:46:30,947 --> 01:46:34,115 NARRATOR: By dawn, the enemy had melted away. 1765 01:46:37,815 --> 01:46:41,082 Harrison and his platoon crept down the hillside 1766 01:46:41,182 --> 01:46:44,815 and reached what was left of Alpha Company. 1767 01:46:46,214 --> 01:46:52,048 Out of 137 men, 76 lay dead along the path. 1768 01:46:52,148 --> 01:46:57,148 Forty-three had been shot in the head at close range. 1769 01:46:57,249 --> 01:47:01,883 Ears had been cut from some; eyes gouged out; 1770 01:47:01,982 --> 01:47:03,915 ring fingers missing. 1771 01:47:04,015 --> 01:47:07,715 Twenty-three more men were wounded. 1772 01:47:07,816 --> 01:47:13,683 Harrison found his classmates, Donald Judd and Richard Hood, 1773 01:47:13,782 --> 01:47:15,884 among the dead. 1774 01:47:17,516 --> 01:47:21,649 HARRISON: This was my introduction to war. 1775 01:47:21,750 --> 01:47:25,584 This was my welcome to Vietnam. 1776 01:47:27,817 --> 01:47:31,283 We spent the rest of the day putting those bodies 1777 01:47:31,384 --> 01:47:34,783 into body bags and getting them out of there. 1778 01:47:34,884 --> 01:47:37,650 Getting-getting killed is forever. 1779 01:47:37,751 --> 01:47:43,517 And, um, that was something that I had known theoretically 1780 01:47:43,618 --> 01:47:45,818 but I now understood particularly 1781 01:47:45,917 --> 01:47:48,484 when I put my two classmates in body bags, 1782 01:47:48,585 --> 01:47:51,217 guys that I had gone to school with for four years 1783 01:47:51,318 --> 01:47:54,318 and were good friends and who just the week before 1784 01:47:54,417 --> 01:47:57,350 we had been drinking beer and ribbing each other 1785 01:47:57,450 --> 01:48:00,586 and these guys were now gone. 1786 01:48:01,619 --> 01:48:02,694 NARRATOR: Charlie Company found 1787 01:48:02,718 --> 01:48:06,319 just nine or ten North Vietnamese bodies. 1788 01:48:06,418 --> 01:48:09,119 Harrison and his men were ordered to search 1789 01:48:09,218 --> 01:48:13,052 the nearby hillsides for more enemy dead, 1790 01:48:13,151 --> 01:48:17,186 who commanders assumed had been killed by U.S. artillery. 1791 01:48:17,285 --> 01:48:20,886 MACV needed its body count. 1792 01:48:23,486 --> 01:48:26,553 HARRISON: We never located them and I believe today 1793 01:48:26,652 --> 01:48:29,652 that we didn't locate them because they weren't there. 1794 01:48:29,753 --> 01:48:34,253 I think we just took a terrible loss on June 22. 1795 01:48:34,352 --> 01:48:41,452 To admit that a rifle company in the 173rd had been wiped out 1796 01:48:41,553 --> 01:48:43,719 by the North Vietnamese was not something 1797 01:48:43,820 --> 01:48:45,219 our leaders were prepared to do. 1798 01:48:45,321 --> 01:48:50,987 So we had to sell ourselves and we had to sell the public 1799 01:48:51,088 --> 01:48:54,487 on the idea that we had inflicted casualties 1800 01:48:54,588 --> 01:48:56,353 on the North Vietnamese as severe 1801 01:48:56,453 --> 01:48:58,720 as they had inflicted on us. 1802 01:48:58,821 --> 01:49:03,353 NARRATOR: An officer told a reporter that the shattered rifle company 1803 01:49:03,453 --> 01:49:07,688 had killed 475 enemy soldiers. 1804 01:49:07,787 --> 01:49:11,854 When another officer suggested to General Westmoreland 1805 01:49:11,954 --> 01:49:14,889 that the figure seemed too high to be believable, 1806 01:49:14,988 --> 01:49:17,354 he replied, "Too late. 1807 01:49:17,454 --> 01:49:19,854 It's already gone out." 1808 01:49:19,954 --> 01:49:22,822 HARRISON: Within a few days after the battle, 1809 01:49:22,921 --> 01:49:25,154 Westmoreland came up to speak 1810 01:49:25,255 --> 01:49:28,988 to what we thought of ourselves as his brigade. 1811 01:49:29,089 --> 01:49:35,123 And he hopped up on a hood of a jeep in very crisp fatigues 1812 01:49:35,222 --> 01:49:38,123 looking every inch the battle commander 1813 01:49:38,222 --> 01:49:42,556 and gave us a pep talk and told us how proud he was 1814 01:49:42,655 --> 01:49:45,190 and what a magnificent job we had done. 1815 01:49:45,289 --> 01:49:50,256 But by then I had more than just a suspicion 1816 01:49:50,355 --> 01:49:56,523 that this was a fairy tale, that Westmoreland was wrong 1817 01:49:56,624 --> 01:49:59,557 and I didn't know whether he knew he was wrong 1818 01:49:59,656 --> 01:50:03,391 or whether he believed what he was being told 1819 01:50:03,490 --> 01:50:05,723 and wanted to believe. 1820 01:50:05,824 --> 01:50:10,223 But this was the first time that I had to come to grips 1821 01:50:10,324 --> 01:50:12,091 with the fact that the leadership 1822 01:50:12,191 --> 01:50:15,892 was either out of touch or was lying. 1823 01:50:15,991 --> 01:50:18,125 ("One Too Many Mornings" by Bob Dylan playing) 1824 01:50:18,224 --> 01:50:20,264 DYLAN: ♪ Down the street the dogs are barkin' ♪ 1825 01:50:20,291 --> 01:50:22,724 ♪ And the day is a-gettin' dark. ♪ 1826 01:50:22,825 --> 01:50:26,625 CAROL CROCKER: I remember a very difficult conversation I had 1827 01:50:26,724 --> 01:50:30,058 with a girl who had really been a best friend of mine. 1828 01:50:30,157 --> 01:50:33,558 And the talk turned to Vietnam. 1829 01:50:33,657 --> 01:50:36,558 And I remember her looking at me and saying, 1830 01:50:36,657 --> 01:50:43,992 "My father says that you can't listen to people 1831 01:50:44,093 --> 01:50:46,725 "who've lost someone in the war 1832 01:50:46,826 --> 01:50:48,458 "because they're going to support it 1833 01:50:48,559 --> 01:50:50,593 to justify that person's death." 1834 01:50:52,425 --> 01:50:55,458 I felt like she'd hit me in the stomach. 1835 01:50:55,559 --> 01:50:59,759 But I knew at that moment there were some factions developing 1836 01:50:59,858 --> 01:51:03,659 and this wasn't going to be an easy path to walk; 1837 01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:05,426 that people were going to have opinions 1838 01:51:05,526 --> 01:51:07,827 about my brother's death 1839 01:51:07,926 --> 01:51:11,659 that in some ways had nothing to do with his death for me. 1840 01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,127 ("The Sound of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkel playing) 1841 01:51:16,226 --> 01:51:20,394 ♪ Hello darkness, my old friend ♪ 1842 01:51:20,493 --> 01:51:24,994 ♪ I've come to talk with you again ♪ 1843 01:51:25,095 --> 01:51:29,727 ♪ Because a vision softly creeping ♪ 1844 01:51:29,828 --> 01:51:34,227 ♪ Left its seeds while I was sleeping ♪ 1845 01:51:34,328 --> 01:51:40,828 ♪ And the vision that was planted in my brain ♪ 1846 01:51:40,927 --> 01:51:44,427 ♪ Still remains 1847 01:51:44,527 --> 01:51:50,262 ♪ Within the sound of silence 1848 01:51:50,361 --> 01:51:54,661 ♪ In restless dreams I walked alone ♪ 1849 01:51:54,762 --> 01:51:59,228 ♪ Narrow streets of cobblestone ♪ 1850 01:51:59,329 --> 01:52:03,795 ♪ 'Neath the halo of a street lamp ♪ 1851 01:52:03,896 --> 01:52:08,428 ♪ I turned my collar to the cold and damp ♪ 1852 01:52:08,528 --> 01:52:15,130 ♪ When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light ♪ 1853 01:52:15,229 --> 01:52:18,597 ♪ That split the night 1854 01:52:18,697 --> 01:52:24,830 ♪ And touched the sound of silence ♪ 1855 01:52:24,929 --> 01:52:28,796 ♪ And in the naked light I saw 1856 01:52:28,897 --> 01:52:33,530 ♪ Ten thousand people, maybe more ♪ 1857 01:52:33,631 --> 01:52:38,198 ♪ People talking without speaking ♪ 1858 01:52:38,297 --> 01:52:42,598 ♪ People hearing without listening ♪ 1859 01:52:42,698 --> 01:52:50,064 ♪ People writing songs that voices never share ♪ 1860 01:52:50,163 --> 01:52:53,730 ♪ And no one dared 1861 01:52:53,831 --> 01:52:59,431 ♪ Disturb the sound of silence 1862 01:52:59,531 --> 01:53:03,931 ♪ And the people bowed and prayed ♪ 1863 01:53:04,031 --> 01:53:08,332 ♪ To the neon god they made 1864 01:53:08,431 --> 01:53:12,664 ♪ And the sign flashed out its warning ♪ 1865 01:53:12,765 --> 01:53:17,133 ♪ In the words that it was forming ♪ 1866 01:53:17,232 --> 01:53:18,766 ♪ And the signs said 1867 01:53:18,865 --> 01:53:24,499 ♪ The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls ♪ 1868 01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:28,032 ♪ And tenement halls 1869 01:53:28,133 --> 01:53:36,133 ♪ And whisper'd in the sounds of silence. ♪ 153386

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