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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,091 --> 00:00:08,925 OK. 2 00:00:09,926 --> 00:00:12,166 - Shall I just walk up there, man? - Yep. 3 00:00:12,721 --> 00:00:14,806 Make sure I look good, bro. Shit. 4 00:00:15,015 --> 00:00:15,849 Alright. 5 00:00:17,851 --> 00:00:20,051 - Oh I haven't put my sunglasses on. - ...sunglasses. 6 00:00:21,730 --> 00:00:23,273 This is to hide my identity. 7 00:00:23,773 --> 00:00:25,960 How much longer you guys think this is gonna be? 8 00:00:25,984 --> 00:00:27,211 Alright, let's do this. 9 00:00:40,123 --> 00:00:43,251 If you knew where $2 million was buried in the ground, 10 00:00:43,334 --> 00:00:44,753 would you dig the shit up? 11 00:00:49,507 --> 00:00:51,926 Fuck, yeah I would. And I did it one time. 12 00:02:00,954 --> 00:02:02,372 Everybody's got a... 13 00:02:03,373 --> 00:02:05,500 different story to tell, you know. 14 00:02:06,084 --> 00:02:07,627 You know, some of them are funny. 15 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:11,548 Some of them are, you know, basically tragic, but... 16 00:02:12,507 --> 00:02:14,884 everybody's got stories, you know. 17 00:02:18,221 --> 00:02:20,181 It's kinda hard to describe where I live. 18 00:02:21,224 --> 00:02:24,310 It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. 19 00:02:24,894 --> 00:02:27,772 That's... about the best way I can describe it. 20 00:02:30,233 --> 00:02:33,153 There's been people come and go over the years, 21 00:02:33,236 --> 00:02:35,613 but Julian's been out here a long time. 22 00:02:35,822 --> 00:02:37,657 He's our local hippie. 23 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:40,118 He walks barefooted everywhere he goes. 24 00:02:40,702 --> 00:02:41,828 He didn't have much... 25 00:02:42,537 --> 00:02:45,540 as far as materialistic stuff goes, 26 00:02:45,623 --> 00:02:47,792 but... he had a good story. 27 00:02:53,631 --> 00:02:55,071 You know the difference between a... 28 00:02:57,135 --> 00:03:01,097 northern fairy-tale and a southern fairy-tale? 29 00:03:01,681 --> 00:03:05,310 Well, a northern fairy-tale starts off, "Once upon a time..." 30 00:03:07,645 --> 00:03:09,814 A southern fairy-tale starts off, 31 00:03:09,898 --> 00:03:13,735 "Y'all ain't gon' believe this shit." 32 00:03:17,447 --> 00:03:21,576 Hell, I heard his story so many times I can almost repeat it verbatim. 33 00:03:25,455 --> 00:03:27,665 You gotta understand the way it happened. 34 00:03:27,749 --> 00:03:31,669 See, his wife ran a turtle research center in Culebra. 35 00:03:31,753 --> 00:03:33,922 Julian would walk the beach looking for... 36 00:03:34,631 --> 00:03:35,631 turtle nests, 37 00:03:35,673 --> 00:03:37,592 and that's where the story started. 38 00:03:52,982 --> 00:03:54,484 One time, he saw this... 39 00:03:56,027 --> 00:03:58,863 big thing washed up on the beach and... 40 00:04:00,823 --> 00:04:02,867 he didn't know what it was, but... 41 00:04:02,951 --> 00:04:05,620 the way it was wrapped up, you know, it was in... 42 00:04:06,162 --> 00:04:08,122 watertight wrapping, 43 00:04:08,206 --> 00:04:09,832 so he knew it wasn't garbage. 44 00:04:15,546 --> 00:04:18,841 You know, he pulled it out of the water and... 45 00:04:19,425 --> 00:04:21,177 he was hoping it was money. 46 00:04:26,849 --> 00:04:29,102 Well, when he opened it up... 47 00:04:31,688 --> 00:04:33,147 it turned out to be... 48 00:04:33,231 --> 00:04:34,231 cocaine. 49 00:04:36,776 --> 00:04:38,778 And he went, "Shit!" 50 00:04:47,954 --> 00:04:53,126 I believe he weighed it and it was over 70lb of coke. 51 00:04:53,751 --> 00:04:56,170 That's about $1 million, you know. 52 00:04:58,339 --> 00:05:00,341 So somebody was out a lot of money. 53 00:05:00,883 --> 00:05:04,637 You know, he never had an intention of trying to sell it or anything. 54 00:05:04,721 --> 00:05:06,347 He was just trying to figure out... 55 00:05:07,015 --> 00:05:09,600 where he could basically get rid of it. 56 00:05:09,684 --> 00:05:11,394 He was afraid to turn it in. 57 00:05:12,270 --> 00:05:14,314 Puerto Rican cops were... 58 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:18,651 ...you know, about as corrupt as you could find. 59 00:05:18,735 --> 00:05:20,737 He didn't know what to do with it. 60 00:05:21,362 --> 00:05:22,363 It was probably a comedy 61 00:05:22,447 --> 00:05:24,824 'cause he said he'd carry it to one spot and hide it... 62 00:05:25,658 --> 00:05:28,244 go back the next night and get it and move it to another. 63 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:30,038 It's kinda like a dog with a bone. 64 00:05:34,417 --> 00:05:36,794 He finally just said, "To hell with it." He buried it. 65 00:05:58,107 --> 00:05:59,776 And that's where it stayed 66 00:05:59,859 --> 00:06:01,986 for over 10, 15 years. 67 00:06:02,945 --> 00:06:05,031 And he moved back here. 68 00:06:05,114 --> 00:06:08,576 And that $1 million were just waiting for someone to dig it up. 69 00:06:12,413 --> 00:06:14,874 ♪ Address unknown ♪ 70 00:06:15,541 --> 00:06:21,547 ♪ Not even a trace of you ♪ 71 00:06:22,215 --> 00:06:24,842 ♪ Address unknown ♪ 72 00:06:25,468 --> 00:06:30,973 ♪ Oh, how could I be so blind ♪ 73 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:35,311 ♪ To think that you ♪ 74 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:41,484 ♪ Would never be hard to find? ♪ 75 00:06:41,567 --> 00:06:46,864 ♪ From the place of your birth To the ends of the Earth ♪ 76 00:06:46,948 --> 00:06:50,827 ♪ I've searched only to find ♪ 77 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:54,205 ♪ Only to find ♪ 78 00:06:56,290 --> 00:07:00,420 ♪ Address unknown ♪ 79 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:10,346 My name is Rodney Hyden. I'm president of BH Builders. 80 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:13,683 We started the company in 1998. 81 00:07:14,308 --> 00:07:17,979 We are general contractors and we do commercial concrete work. 82 00:07:19,730 --> 00:07:20,815 I'm a dreamer. 83 00:07:20,898 --> 00:07:23,860 You know, I always dreamed of being the guy 84 00:07:23,943 --> 00:07:26,195 that builds big four- and five- and six-story buildings 85 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:27,196 and it came true. 86 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,491 I mean, one of my first jobs was a four-story motel 87 00:07:30,575 --> 00:07:33,870 that I never would have thought I'd be doing in my second year in business. 88 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:36,873 Yes, I am an optimist. I'm not pessimistic at all. 89 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:39,750 When I grew up, we were poor. 90 00:07:39,834 --> 00:07:44,547 I can remember times that my mother and father would take a loan out 91 00:07:44,630 --> 00:07:45,715 to get our Christmas. 92 00:07:46,757 --> 00:07:49,594 During summers growing up, I would work with my dad. 93 00:07:49,677 --> 00:07:52,263 I started working for him for a dollar a day 94 00:07:52,346 --> 00:07:54,557 so I could save up and buy my first shotgun. 95 00:07:55,641 --> 00:07:57,935 My father's done every trade in the business 96 00:07:58,019 --> 00:08:00,021 and became a project superintendent. 97 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:03,733 But he wasn't a businessman and... 98 00:08:04,275 --> 00:08:06,360 people took advantage of him. 99 00:08:06,944 --> 00:08:09,947 Just watching him bust his ass all those years 100 00:08:10,031 --> 00:08:13,117 taught me don't ever depend on somebody else to do what you can do 101 00:08:13,201 --> 00:08:15,620 and, if you can't do it, learn how to do it. 102 00:08:21,501 --> 00:08:23,753 Golly, we have done some huge projects. 103 00:08:23,836 --> 00:08:25,546 Back in 2000, 2001, 104 00:08:25,630 --> 00:08:29,050 we did the $20 million honors dormitory at the University of Florida. 105 00:08:29,133 --> 00:08:32,428 That job going on, at the same time, we were doing the skybox. 106 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:34,096 And we were just everywhere. 107 00:08:34,180 --> 00:08:35,765 I had over 80 people working for us. 108 00:08:35,848 --> 00:08:37,183 Things were clicking. 109 00:08:40,728 --> 00:08:41,646 I've had all the toys. 110 00:08:41,729 --> 00:08:44,273 Had a Harley, three-car garage. 111 00:08:44,357 --> 00:08:47,735 I had a Corvette in one bay. I traded one boat in for another. 112 00:08:47,818 --> 00:08:49,737 Emily was born all when this happened 113 00:08:49,820 --> 00:08:52,615 and my wife didn't work, she stayed home and took care of Emily, 114 00:08:52,865 --> 00:08:54,534 something she always wanted to do. 115 00:08:54,617 --> 00:08:57,203 I never thought I'd be able to go get her a new car 116 00:08:57,286 --> 00:08:58,913 and park it in the garage, 117 00:08:58,996 --> 00:09:01,499 so when she got home and opened the garage, it would be there. 118 00:09:01,582 --> 00:09:04,377 But it's the first time I ever got to do that and it was wonderful. 119 00:09:04,460 --> 00:09:07,588 I mean, times were great. They were just unbelievable. 120 00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:10,216 But then the recession hit. 121 00:09:20,059 --> 00:09:22,812 I'm Emily Hyden and I'm Rodney Hyden's daughter. 122 00:09:25,189 --> 00:09:27,775 I think that I have a pretty normal family, 123 00:09:27,858 --> 00:09:31,487 but only because I've lived there my whole life, so I see it as normal, 124 00:09:32,029 --> 00:09:35,700 but, from the outside looking in, my family is probably pretty strange. 125 00:09:37,243 --> 00:09:39,745 Good food, good meat, good God, let's eat. 126 00:09:40,997 --> 00:09:45,918 My parents are really chill in the sense that I can tell my mom everything 127 00:09:46,002 --> 00:09:48,129 and she just kinda goes along with it. 128 00:09:48,921 --> 00:09:51,507 My mom and my dad have, like, a pretty open rapport. 129 00:09:51,591 --> 00:09:54,135 Like, they don't really... There's no filter in my family. 130 00:09:54,218 --> 00:09:58,264 I feel like it's normal, but it's probably not compared to other families, so... 131 00:09:58,931 --> 00:10:00,766 fairly strange, I would say. 132 00:10:03,894 --> 00:10:06,689 I never wanted to be single. 133 00:10:06,897 --> 00:10:08,941 Y'know, I wanted to be somebody's wife. 134 00:10:09,025 --> 00:10:11,319 But I wanted the picture. 135 00:10:11,402 --> 00:10:14,905 I wanted the husband, the house, the child, the dog. 136 00:10:14,989 --> 00:10:16,198 Each of us had been married... 137 00:10:16,282 --> 00:10:19,702 Y'know we'd each been married before. He came with a child, I came with a child. 138 00:10:19,785 --> 00:10:22,371 And so, we got married in a little bed-and-breakfast. 139 00:10:22,455 --> 00:10:26,667 We just had, like, six or eight friends, my parents, you know. 140 00:10:26,751 --> 00:10:28,586 It was just a sweet... 141 00:10:29,170 --> 00:10:30,755 perfect moment. 142 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,300 Our marriage sticks. 143 00:10:35,259 --> 00:10:36,469 It's never bored. 144 00:10:36,594 --> 00:10:38,638 I've never been bored. 145 00:10:38,721 --> 00:10:41,557 When we got married, he was working for somebody 146 00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:45,561 and making good money, but making them better money. 147 00:10:49,398 --> 00:10:52,401 We're doing alright, but they're doing great. 148 00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:55,488 And they're doing great because you're helping them... 149 00:10:56,155 --> 00:10:57,281 live this great life. 150 00:10:57,365 --> 00:10:58,991 And I wanted a piece of it. 151 00:10:59,075 --> 00:11:02,912 You know, my mama raised me to want those things in life. 152 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:06,832 The Hammock, at the time, 153 00:11:06,916 --> 00:11:10,544 was one of the prestigious neighborhoods 154 00:11:10,628 --> 00:11:13,005 and the homes were big and fabulous and... 155 00:11:13,881 --> 00:11:16,300 Then we found the land in The Hammock and 156 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:20,221 started to build this phenomenal, beautiful home and... 157 00:11:20,721 --> 00:11:21,721 we were movin' up. 158 00:11:22,765 --> 00:11:23,766 We were movin' up. 159 00:11:24,266 --> 00:11:29,730 We appreciated the things that Rodney worked hard to get for us. 160 00:11:30,648 --> 00:11:31,648 But it's not enough. 161 00:11:33,818 --> 00:11:36,028 And then we decided we needed a swimming pool. 162 00:11:38,322 --> 00:11:40,658 And then we decided we needed a river house. 163 00:11:40,741 --> 00:11:43,494 And then we needed the boat, and then we needed the jet skis. 164 00:11:43,577 --> 00:11:45,371 And then he needed a motorcycle. 165 00:11:47,164 --> 00:11:48,874 It was, you know, endless. 166 00:11:49,834 --> 00:11:53,754 We loved our life. 167 00:11:54,296 --> 00:11:56,132 I loved it. 168 00:11:57,425 --> 00:12:00,761 The construction industry, it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 169 00:12:00,845 --> 00:12:03,681 So much work that you just couldn't get to all of it. 170 00:12:03,764 --> 00:12:04,974 And then, all of a sudden, 171 00:12:05,057 --> 00:12:06,559 it was like... gone. 172 00:12:09,687 --> 00:12:12,898 Let's talk about the speed at which this market is deteriorating. 173 00:12:12,982 --> 00:12:15,151 Everything has been completely wiped out. 174 00:12:15,234 --> 00:12:17,945 The Dow traders are standing there watching in amazement 175 00:12:18,028 --> 00:12:19,113 and I don't blame 'em. 176 00:12:19,196 --> 00:12:22,076 We haven't seen anything like this since the Great Depression. 177 00:12:22,116 --> 00:12:25,911 Will somebody come on TV and tell the truth about how bad it is? 178 00:12:25,995 --> 00:12:28,581 We're in the midst of a serious financial crisis. 179 00:12:30,082 --> 00:12:32,835 We are in the last days of this country's survival. 180 00:12:33,252 --> 00:12:36,297 I have talked to the heads of almost all of these firms 181 00:12:36,380 --> 00:12:37,465 in the last 72 hours 182 00:12:37,548 --> 00:12:39,884 and he has no idea what it's like out there. 183 00:12:39,967 --> 00:12:43,137 None! They're nuts! They know nothing! 184 00:12:43,220 --> 00:12:46,557 I really want to know. Is the American dream dead for me? 185 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,977 ♪ I love the USA ♪ 186 00:12:50,936 --> 00:12:54,565 ♪ I love the USA ♪ 187 00:12:55,399 --> 00:12:58,402 ♪ Fuck, yeah, this place is great ♪ 188 00:12:59,862 --> 00:13:00,946 ♪ I love... ♪ 189 00:13:01,030 --> 00:13:03,133 The foreclosure problem has a ripple effect 190 00:13:03,157 --> 00:13:05,284 and touches almost everyone here in Central Florida. 191 00:13:05,367 --> 00:13:06,845 The government's going to step in 192 00:13:06,869 --> 00:13:08,913 with nearly a trillion dollars for the banks market. 193 00:13:08,996 --> 00:13:10,206 It's time for a conversation 194 00:13:10,289 --> 00:13:13,542 as to what they're going to do to prevent massive foreclosures. 195 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:16,837 This could be the most serious recession in decades 196 00:13:16,921 --> 00:13:20,216 and that means life as most Americans know it is about to change, 197 00:13:20,299 --> 00:13:21,801 in some cases dramatically. 198 00:13:22,301 --> 00:13:26,180 ♪ I love the USA ♪ 199 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:30,726 ♪ I love the USA ♪ 200 00:13:30,935 --> 00:13:35,189 ♪ Fuck, yeah, this place is great ♪ 201 00:13:35,439 --> 00:13:38,651 ♪ I love the USA ♪ 202 00:13:39,860 --> 00:13:41,779 ♪ I love the USA... ♪ 203 00:13:41,862 --> 00:13:43,656 I do believe in the American dream. 204 00:13:44,657 --> 00:13:49,328 But today, for far too many Americans, this dream is slipping away. 205 00:13:53,374 --> 00:13:55,376 ♪ I love the USA... ♪ 206 00:13:55,459 --> 00:13:57,670 I was over $1 million in debt to the bank. 207 00:13:58,170 --> 00:14:01,465 And I felt like a disappointment when I had to tell her. 208 00:14:01,549 --> 00:14:05,719 It was the life that I loved and I did not want to walk away from. 209 00:14:05,803 --> 00:14:07,429 So I thought I'd compromise. 210 00:14:07,513 --> 00:14:11,016 We found the property out in Watermelon Pond and... 211 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:14,728 I'd always said I wanted a sunset 212 00:14:14,812 --> 00:14:17,690 and Rodney bought me the prettiest sunset in Alachua County. 213 00:14:18,566 --> 00:14:21,527 But it came with a price. 214 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:26,532 And we put a double-wide out on the property 215 00:14:26,615 --> 00:14:29,201 and the double-wide became our permanent residence. 216 00:14:29,743 --> 00:14:31,453 And that was okay for a while. 217 00:14:32,204 --> 00:14:33,497 But then... 218 00:14:33,747 --> 00:14:34,915 our two-year plan... 219 00:14:35,833 --> 00:14:36,833 erm... 220 00:14:37,585 --> 00:14:39,378 crept into a three-year plan. 221 00:14:39,461 --> 00:14:43,799 A four-year plan, five-year plan, six-year plan, seven... - year plan. 222 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:47,511 Eight years later, we were still in the double-wide... 223 00:14:48,178 --> 00:14:49,722 parking in the sand. 224 00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:53,767 When I had been in a 3,600 square-foot home 225 00:14:53,851 --> 00:14:55,436 with a three-car garage, 226 00:14:55,519 --> 00:14:57,313 and now I was living in... 227 00:14:59,148 --> 00:15:01,817 a home the size of my three-car garage. 228 00:15:02,985 --> 00:15:05,696 And I said those things to my husband. 229 00:15:22,129 --> 00:15:23,839 We're in Piney Woods, Florida. 230 00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:27,593 It's Archer. This is my 40-acre farm that... 231 00:15:28,677 --> 00:15:30,721 I've had for ten years now. 232 00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:33,807 This is where I was when I heard the story. 233 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:38,896 Every piece of property out here has had that story told on it. 234 00:15:39,647 --> 00:15:41,148 The legend told the story. 235 00:15:45,819 --> 00:15:49,907 I'd tell people, "Who the hell's walking along the road in bare feet?" 236 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:54,870 And I said, "Is there a couple of drag marks between the footprints?" 237 00:15:55,412 --> 00:15:57,206 "That's Julian... 238 00:15:57,831 --> 00:15:59,249 draggin' his nuts." 239 00:16:12,012 --> 00:16:13,597 The social life in... 240 00:16:14,431 --> 00:16:18,519 Piney Woods, Florida is... like no other. 241 00:16:18,602 --> 00:16:21,271 Everybody stays to themselves, but... 242 00:16:21,772 --> 00:16:25,526 Fridays, Saturdays, phones started ringing, "Where we gonna meet tonight?" 243 00:16:25,609 --> 00:16:28,237 You know, it was just a get-together for the happy hours. 244 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,072 We called it "Piney Wood Happy Hour." 245 00:16:30,155 --> 00:16:33,575 I felt a lot like Wendy in Peter Pan. 246 00:16:33,659 --> 00:16:36,662 Like, I would cook and the Lost Boys would come eat dinner. 247 00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:40,010 Well, when Rodney first moved in, 248 00:16:40,082 --> 00:16:42,209 it was mainly having these parties 249 00:16:42,292 --> 00:16:43,585 where he was introduced 250 00:16:43,669 --> 00:16:45,254 to all the other neighbors. 251 00:16:45,337 --> 00:16:48,007 It's a very unique cast of characters out there. 252 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:52,052 It's just one story after the next story. 253 00:16:52,136 --> 00:16:55,681 Course, Julian started his story about Puerto Rico. 254 00:16:59,935 --> 00:17:02,396 It seemed like, every party, he would tell this story. 255 00:17:02,646 --> 00:17:05,024 I have to say, the first time I heard it, 256 00:17:05,107 --> 00:17:06,775 it was a little far-fetched. 257 00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:09,528 Julian's story was probably the most fascinating story 258 00:17:09,611 --> 00:17:10,738 I've ever heard in my life. 259 00:17:10,821 --> 00:17:12,364 Oh, come on! 260 00:17:12,448 --> 00:17:15,826 Some people, y'know, would laugh and, "Oh, let's go get a submarine." 261 00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:17,119 I told them, "Y'all crazy. 262 00:17:17,703 --> 00:17:20,539 Then what the hell would you do with it if you got it over here?" 263 00:17:21,123 --> 00:17:24,043 We don't know anybody to sell it to. 264 00:17:24,334 --> 00:17:26,253 Julian was sitting on a goldmine. 265 00:17:26,336 --> 00:17:29,006 We're talking about 32 kilograms of cocaine. 266 00:17:29,089 --> 00:17:31,800 "X" marks the spot. Treasure, treasure, treasure. 267 00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:35,095 Goddamn, man, he knows right where he buried it. 268 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:39,141 I liked picturing it in my mind. 269 00:17:39,224 --> 00:17:42,019 You know, visualizing where he buried it. 270 00:17:42,686 --> 00:17:46,106 Sneaking back in there and getting it. But it was a fantasy. 271 00:17:46,190 --> 00:17:47,566 It was just a story. 272 00:17:48,817 --> 00:17:49,985 It was just a story. 273 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,696 It was just a story. 274 00:17:53,781 --> 00:17:55,783 Just a story. 275 00:17:57,034 --> 00:17:59,328 Just a story. 276 00:18:20,974 --> 00:18:23,018 My dad picks up strays. 277 00:18:23,393 --> 00:18:26,146 He has this, like, complex to pick up people 278 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:29,858 and just try to, like, help them out when he thinks they're struggling, but... 279 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,653 Yeah, we compared it to going to the Humane Society 280 00:18:32,736 --> 00:18:35,948 where you, like, pick the old one and you hope things go okay, 281 00:18:36,031 --> 00:18:37,950 'cause you just want it to have a good life. 282 00:18:38,033 --> 00:18:42,663 That's my dad, but with people that do drugs and stuff, so... 283 00:18:43,038 --> 00:18:45,582 I'd rather be in here right now than out there working. 284 00:18:45,666 --> 00:18:46,708 Yeah. 285 00:18:46,792 --> 00:18:50,420 As he, like, gets older, he wants to feel younger. 286 00:18:50,504 --> 00:18:53,423 And I think that, by hanging out with these people, 287 00:18:53,507 --> 00:18:57,845 it kind of allows him to, not only relive when he was that time, but also... 288 00:18:58,053 --> 00:18:59,513 I've thought about it a lot, 289 00:18:59,763 --> 00:19:02,099 and I think it's his way of self-correcting his 290 00:19:02,182 --> 00:19:03,392 - old mistakes. - Bye. 291 00:19:03,517 --> 00:19:05,978 Just to fix them in other people, or at least try. 292 00:19:06,645 --> 00:19:08,814 Sometimes he just gets caught up in it all. 293 00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:14,528 One of the strays that my dad picked up was Andy. 294 00:19:36,592 --> 00:19:38,719 Come on. Get up here. Come on. 295 00:19:42,431 --> 00:19:45,475 ...We'll be trying the case for the jury. A seven-year case... 296 00:19:56,445 --> 00:19:59,698 I had a fella that was a friend of my son's... 297 00:19:59,781 --> 00:20:01,783 and... 298 00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:04,036 ...he... 299 00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:05,746 When I first met him, man... 300 00:20:06,371 --> 00:20:08,624 he was so fucked up on something, I don't know what. 301 00:20:08,707 --> 00:20:12,586 I assumed it was pot, 'cause he always had good pot. Always. 302 00:20:12,753 --> 00:20:13,753 And... 303 00:20:14,254 --> 00:20:17,174 But later found out that he had an opium problem. 304 00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:22,429 No, I don't have a drug problem. 305 00:20:25,766 --> 00:20:27,935 I do drugs, if that's what you're asking. 306 00:20:28,143 --> 00:20:29,645 Absolutely. Yes, I've done 'em. 307 00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:32,314 More than most. But... 308 00:20:33,315 --> 00:20:35,067 nowadays, it's not a problem. 309 00:20:37,444 --> 00:20:39,154 I took a liking to this kid, man. 310 00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:42,157 He had a personality that you just cannot... 311 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:45,535 You can't hate him. I don't hold it against him. 312 00:20:45,786 --> 00:20:48,765 But I wouldn't let him on the jobs. He'd hurt himself or hurt somebody else. 313 00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:51,333 But what I had him do, I'd let him come to the office, 314 00:20:51,416 --> 00:20:53,961 he'd clean the office or he'd wash my truck. 315 00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:56,093 He did all the things that I didn't want to do. 316 00:20:56,129 --> 00:20:58,382 Plus I paid him ten dollars an hour and... 317 00:20:59,049 --> 00:21:02,094 I was just helping the kid out and it's 'cause I liked him. 318 00:21:03,011 --> 00:21:04,471 One of the boys. 319 00:21:05,097 --> 00:21:06,098 Like my homie. 320 00:21:06,890 --> 00:21:10,394 Straight up. He used to take me around all the time to his job sites and shit. 321 00:21:10,477 --> 00:21:12,854 Like... show off his new friend and shit. 322 00:21:13,397 --> 00:21:15,399 No, he was my boy, dude. He was... 323 00:21:15,482 --> 00:21:18,026 He was a cool-ass dude, loyal as fuck. 324 00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:20,445 Andy and I discussed Julian's story. 325 00:21:20,529 --> 00:21:23,323 He'd heard it from my son... or somewhere, 326 00:21:23,532 --> 00:21:25,993 and I told him the story again and... 327 00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:31,206 old Andy would scratch his head and go, "Man, what I could do with that." 328 00:21:31,832 --> 00:21:36,503 I could tell the day he told me the story that he wasn't bullshitting. 329 00:21:36,586 --> 00:21:39,298 I mean, it was a, "holy shit!" for sure, right? 330 00:21:39,381 --> 00:21:41,633 I mean who wouldn't say, "holy shit!" to that? 331 00:21:41,717 --> 00:21:43,468 $2 million on the street. 332 00:21:44,219 --> 00:21:46,054 But, wholesale, probably like... 333 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:49,433 erm... 334 00:21:50,267 --> 00:21:51,768 shit, maybe... 335 00:21:56,189 --> 00:21:58,191 I don't know, like... shit... 336 00:21:59,234 --> 00:22:02,487 Damn, it might be worth more than $2 million, now I think about it. 337 00:22:03,572 --> 00:22:04,932 This money could change your life. 338 00:22:05,907 --> 00:22:06,908 Without a doubt. 339 00:22:07,868 --> 00:22:08,868 Period. 340 00:22:09,494 --> 00:22:10,495 Fresh! 341 00:22:11,538 --> 00:22:15,792 Now if Andy knows the story, there's no telling how many people know the story 342 00:22:15,876 --> 00:22:19,755 or have heard the story or how twisted the story got or... 343 00:22:19,838 --> 00:22:21,256 Yeah, no telling. 344 00:22:28,388 --> 00:22:32,851 The last time Andy was working for me, he lived with a guy named Dee. 345 00:22:33,935 --> 00:22:36,355 Dee goes by Danny, Dee, Cuban. 346 00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:38,231 This is his name. 347 00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:45,030 I know him as Dee. 348 00:22:45,822 --> 00:22:48,784 When you're not around him and you talk about him, it's "The Cuban." 349 00:22:55,540 --> 00:23:00,796 So I went to pick Andy up at the address he told me he was at. 350 00:23:00,879 --> 00:23:05,509 I didn't even cut the truck off. He was in the driveway with this guy, Dee. 351 00:23:05,592 --> 00:23:08,303 And he got in and Dee walks up to my... 352 00:23:09,179 --> 00:23:11,223 window and introduces himself. 353 00:23:11,306 --> 00:23:13,433 And the first words out of his mouth were, 354 00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:15,769 "Hey, man, I can help you with that story." 355 00:23:27,781 --> 00:23:31,785 I've done everything in my life. Drug deals, stole, robbed, been in gangs. 356 00:23:32,035 --> 00:23:34,121 And to do it for so long, it just comes natural. 357 00:23:34,204 --> 00:23:35,924 More you do something, better you are at it. 358 00:23:37,541 --> 00:23:39,781 My mom didn't really have a lot of money, poor, you know, 359 00:23:39,835 --> 00:23:42,254 so I grew up in the streets, projects, stuff like that. 360 00:23:42,587 --> 00:23:45,799 Getting into gangs. Went to prison at a young age. 361 00:23:46,466 --> 00:23:48,677 But prison is basically a college for criminals. 362 00:23:49,344 --> 00:23:51,430 If you don't have nothing, you start from the bottom. 363 00:23:51,513 --> 00:23:52,513 Like I did selling coke. 364 00:23:52,556 --> 00:23:53,640 I started with an 8-ball. 365 00:23:53,723 --> 00:23:56,523 The ones that make it and survive are the ones that organize themselves 366 00:23:56,601 --> 00:23:57,853 and treat it like a business. 367 00:23:58,478 --> 00:23:59,980 Firstly, you gotta have good product. 368 00:24:00,105 --> 00:24:01,857 The second thing is you gotta beat prices. 369 00:24:01,982 --> 00:24:03,342 And everybody used to laugh 'cause 370 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,486 the half gram I'm selling for 15 bucks, everybody is selling for 20. 371 00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:08,113 "No, he ain't gonna make no money." 372 00:24:08,363 --> 00:24:09,483 But people would come to me, 373 00:24:09,531 --> 00:24:12,701 they could spend 15, have a gram and go get cigarettes, so they're happy. 374 00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:16,121 Yes, off an ounce, somebody might make more than me, 375 00:24:16,204 --> 00:24:18,724 but by the time they get rid of that ounce, I got rid of 3 or 4. 376 00:24:18,748 --> 00:24:20,388 So in a week I make more money than them. 377 00:24:22,169 --> 00:24:23,753 Yes, I feel it is easy, drug dealing. 378 00:24:23,837 --> 00:24:26,047 You know, it's just about following the rules. 379 00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:28,979 It don't matter who you are or what you do, 380 00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:31,011 if you strive to do something and work at it hard, 381 00:24:31,094 --> 00:24:32,804 eventually you will succeed always. 382 00:24:32,888 --> 00:24:33,888 There's no failure. 383 00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:36,933 if you fail in life, it's because you quit or give up what you're doing. 384 00:24:38,643 --> 00:24:40,061 It wasn't long after that... 385 00:24:41,229 --> 00:24:42,314 in a matter of a week, 386 00:24:42,397 --> 00:24:44,107 Dee walks in my office 387 00:24:44,191 --> 00:24:46,193 and... he proceeded to 388 00:24:46,276 --> 00:24:47,819 wanna know more about the story. 389 00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:52,157 Let's face it, Dee and I don't know each other that well. 390 00:24:52,449 --> 00:24:55,368 Never done anything with him, never bought any pot from him. 391 00:24:56,203 --> 00:24:58,497 I don't know if this guy is trustworthy or not. 392 00:24:58,580 --> 00:24:59,998 A little conversation won't hurt. 393 00:25:00,081 --> 00:25:02,542 Our first meeting about it was in his office. 394 00:25:02,626 --> 00:25:05,306 I sat right across from him and he's telling me the story, you know. 395 00:25:06,129 --> 00:25:09,174 Biggest thing was, he just wanted to be sure 396 00:25:09,257 --> 00:25:11,137 that somebody can move it when it got back here. 397 00:25:11,176 --> 00:25:13,016 That was his thing, 'cos he didn't know nobody. 398 00:25:13,053 --> 00:25:16,014 I told him, "It's not a problem. You get it here, I'll move it for you." 399 00:25:17,432 --> 00:25:19,809 So, you know, it's starting to... 400 00:25:21,394 --> 00:25:22,394 sound like... 401 00:25:23,688 --> 00:25:25,023 this could be interesting. 402 00:25:25,357 --> 00:25:27,025 Y'know, when he realized my background, 403 00:25:27,108 --> 00:25:30,028 that I had moved a lot of cocaine, I was able to move it, 404 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,656 it just made him hungry to want to go get it. 405 00:25:32,948 --> 00:25:36,409 When Dee would come over, it was usually after-hours and it was like... 406 00:25:36,493 --> 00:25:39,037 It was almost like having a beer after work. 407 00:25:39,246 --> 00:25:42,832 He's gonna come by and we're gonna talk smack about money, man. 408 00:25:42,999 --> 00:25:44,960 We're talking about a way to make some money here. 409 00:26:04,521 --> 00:26:09,067 Well, as with any proposition, you know, Dee's... 410 00:26:09,693 --> 00:26:13,196 presenting his proposal to me 411 00:26:13,446 --> 00:26:19,160 in such a way as, we're literally pulling out a calculator and he's telling me... 412 00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:20,604 Millions. 413 00:26:20,704 --> 00:26:21,788 Literally, millions. 414 00:26:22,372 --> 00:26:24,772 I didn't use no calculator. I did all the numbers in my head. 415 00:26:24,833 --> 00:26:26,313 Rodney would use a calculator though. 416 00:26:26,376 --> 00:26:28,712 He'd get his little calculator out and try to add stuff up. 417 00:26:28,795 --> 00:26:30,422 "How much is this, that?" 418 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:32,841 Type it in and he'd be amazed at how much it is. 419 00:26:32,924 --> 00:26:37,262 Twenty-eight kilograms at $25,000 on the street, 420 00:26:37,345 --> 00:26:39,472 doubled because he's going to double the weight, 421 00:26:39,556 --> 00:26:41,141 but it would double the money. 422 00:26:41,224 --> 00:26:42,475 And the numbers were... 423 00:26:43,059 --> 00:26:46,563 easily calculated and it's starting to make sense. 424 00:26:46,646 --> 00:26:49,858 So, you know, he didn't realize what he had there. 425 00:26:49,941 --> 00:26:52,402 So you know, I was looking at it as, huh, "It's a gold mine." 426 00:26:53,111 --> 00:26:54,529 It was an equitable... 427 00:26:55,071 --> 00:26:59,075 proposal from Dee where he just wanted half of it. He just wanted... 428 00:26:59,576 --> 00:27:01,244 He wanted half to get rid of it 429 00:27:01,328 --> 00:27:03,788 and I'm going to be sitting here with half to just... 430 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:08,376 locate it and turn it over to him to take care of from there. 431 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:10,003 The biggest problem was though... 432 00:27:10,545 --> 00:27:11,838 how are you gonna get it here? 433 00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:14,424 Not being from the streets, and all, he didn't understand, 434 00:27:14,507 --> 00:27:18,553 to bring in 32 keys of cocaine into the United States from another country 435 00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:23,224 is very hard to do without an organization backing you that's, you know, organized, 436 00:27:23,308 --> 00:27:26,519 and knows what they're doing, that's connected, you know, to make it happen. 437 00:27:26,603 --> 00:27:31,900 As we talked, it became clear to me that he knew a guy. His name was Carlos. 438 00:27:35,695 --> 00:27:37,495 Carlos knew everything about everything. 439 00:27:37,572 --> 00:27:39,508 These were people that were already trafficking drugs, 440 00:27:39,532 --> 00:27:40,700 bringing it into the States. 441 00:27:41,284 --> 00:27:43,787 And, you know, they knew the ins and outs and everything to it. 442 00:27:43,870 --> 00:27:45,288 They could actually bring it in. 443 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,418 His guy in Tampa was the guy. 444 00:27:50,502 --> 00:27:53,380 This was nothing for him to be able to do. 445 00:27:54,005 --> 00:27:56,424 His friend was Puerto Rican. 446 00:27:57,258 --> 00:27:58,259 His friend had... 447 00:27:58,885 --> 00:28:03,556 connections to bring stuff into the country and... 448 00:28:04,182 --> 00:28:06,101 he ran a big operation. 449 00:28:22,075 --> 00:28:24,160 Kingpin. That's the word. 450 00:28:24,244 --> 00:28:25,120 Kingpin. 451 00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:27,789 I'd never been face to face with a real, 452 00:28:27,872 --> 00:28:31,751 I mean, a real big-time smuggler who owns his own plane. 453 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,400 I said, " What the heck! I'll go meet him. What's it gonna hurt?" 454 00:28:46,224 --> 00:28:51,146 I walked into the bar and and looked over to my left and saw Carlos. 455 00:28:52,021 --> 00:28:54,649 He looked exactly like something you'd see on TV. 456 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:56,985 He was dead image, if not better. 457 00:29:05,535 --> 00:29:06,703 He was a... 458 00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:09,414 pretty well-dressed fellow with... 459 00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:16,337 pressed slacks, you know, and alligator shoes and a belt to match. 460 00:29:17,005 --> 00:29:18,006 He had on... 461 00:29:19,048 --> 00:29:22,010 some kind of silky print shirt that... 462 00:29:23,344 --> 00:29:24,220 Man, he just... 463 00:29:24,304 --> 00:29:26,139 You didn't want to rub up against him, 464 00:29:26,222 --> 00:29:28,767 because it looked like... his clothes were perfect. 465 00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:34,397 Carlos kind of reminded me a little of Tony Montana with his... 466 00:29:34,814 --> 00:29:36,357 With his body language... 467 00:29:36,983 --> 00:29:38,526 and his accent and the way he... 468 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:43,072 you know, put a little extra in behind some of his words. 469 00:29:43,948 --> 00:29:44,991 Scarface. 470 00:29:46,367 --> 00:29:47,494 I just liked that guy. 471 00:29:49,245 --> 00:29:52,457 First time I watched Scarface was probably when it first came out. 472 00:29:52,665 --> 00:29:55,186 I've watched it several times. I went to the theater to watch it, 473 00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:57,378 then I watched it on HBO I don't know how many times. 474 00:29:57,462 --> 00:29:59,923 "Say hello to my little friend." 475 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,092 "Say hello to my little friend." 476 00:30:03,593 --> 00:30:05,845 "Say hello to my little friend." 477 00:30:11,684 --> 00:30:13,853 Say hello to my little friend! 478 00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:21,486 He had a shot of tequila in his hand when I walked in, 479 00:30:21,569 --> 00:30:24,197 the best they had, it was in a silver bottle. 480 00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:27,158 And he asked me if I wanted anything, 481 00:30:27,242 --> 00:30:30,203 so I told him, "Well, I'll have a margarita, no salt." 482 00:30:30,537 --> 00:30:33,081 And... so I sipped on a margarita. 483 00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:37,544 And while I was sipping on that margarita, he must have downed four or five shots. 484 00:30:37,752 --> 00:30:39,671 It was like one right after the other. 485 00:30:40,255 --> 00:30:41,965 They ran out of whatever he was drinking, 486 00:30:42,048 --> 00:30:44,926 so they popped a new bottle and he asked them to bring it to the table. 487 00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:47,971 So he's a big shot, you know, big time. 488 00:30:49,097 --> 00:30:51,558 I mean, how often do you see a guy get a bottle at the table 489 00:30:51,641 --> 00:30:53,518 for him to pour at his own leisure? 490 00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:55,228 It was pretty cool. 491 00:30:58,773 --> 00:31:00,567 Carlos Private Air. 492 00:31:01,651 --> 00:31:03,903 He gave me a card at the meeting... 493 00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:10,285 and explained to me that he had a twin-engine Queen Air airplane. 494 00:31:11,494 --> 00:31:12,495 And... 495 00:31:13,246 --> 00:31:15,248 I told him, look, if we were going down there, 496 00:31:15,331 --> 00:31:18,334 there's no sense in me taking a separate flight, I'd just fly with him 497 00:31:18,418 --> 00:31:19,627 and he says... 498 00:31:19,961 --> 00:31:23,089 "No, you will not see my tail wing number, ever." 499 00:31:24,340 --> 00:31:26,885 And that was kind of a way of saying... 500 00:31:27,927 --> 00:31:32,932 "I don't know you. I don't trust my eyes off of you with that kind of payload." 501 00:31:33,016 --> 00:31:33,933 I told him that, 502 00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:35,894 "I'm not a drug dealer. 503 00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:38,730 I'm not here to get in the drug business. 504 00:31:39,939 --> 00:31:41,858 But I wanted to take care of my family. 505 00:31:41,941 --> 00:31:43,735 And I'm not a greedy person." 506 00:31:45,153 --> 00:31:46,153 Well, I... 507 00:31:47,196 --> 00:31:50,283 I was giving Carlos all the information I had, 508 00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:54,120 you know, except exactly where I thought it was. 509 00:31:54,787 --> 00:31:57,874 I wanted to see for myself where... you know, confirm it 510 00:31:57,957 --> 00:31:59,834 before I passed that information on. 511 00:32:00,835 --> 00:32:03,129 So... you know, I told him the story. 512 00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:06,382 I was talking that smack, that drug talk, you know, 513 00:32:06,466 --> 00:32:09,761 talking about "keys" instead of "kilograms." 514 00:32:10,136 --> 00:32:11,930 Carlos called them "turtle eggs." 515 00:32:12,013 --> 00:32:13,013 That was his code word, 516 00:32:13,056 --> 00:32:16,267 because there's an island they lay eggs and they were buried, so 517 00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:18,311 he came up with the name "turtle eggs." 518 00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:22,482 And then he started talking about what his fee was, 519 00:32:22,565 --> 00:32:24,817 you know, how much he wanted and... 520 00:32:26,027 --> 00:32:28,196 And what the plan was for the upcoming week, 521 00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:29,322 what we were gonna do. 522 00:32:30,031 --> 00:32:32,992 The deal was I would go down there, try to locate it. 523 00:32:33,076 --> 00:32:34,619 Once I verified where it was, 524 00:32:34,702 --> 00:32:37,372 he would fly down, get it and bring it out of the country. 525 00:32:37,455 --> 00:32:40,833 And the fee for that, four bricks of cocaine to do that. 526 00:32:40,917 --> 00:32:41,917 Good deal. 527 00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:46,297 We've got a plane, we've got a pilot... 528 00:32:47,006 --> 00:32:48,383 and we've got a plan. 529 00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:50,176 It's time to go to Puerto Rico. 530 00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:32,009 Dude, I was... 531 00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:33,678 ready to get to the... 532 00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:35,013 to the island. 533 00:33:35,096 --> 00:33:37,682 We got on the plane in Orlando, flew out. 534 00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:41,227 And shortly thereafter, we landed in San Juan. 535 00:33:42,145 --> 00:33:45,064 And then, from San Juan, you could either take the ferry... 536 00:33:45,732 --> 00:33:48,067 or pay 40 bucks for a puddle jumper. 537 00:33:48,151 --> 00:33:51,446 So I said, "Man, let's take the airplane. That'd be neat, flying in." 538 00:33:51,529 --> 00:33:53,114 We flew from San Juan to... 539 00:33:53,823 --> 00:33:54,907 Oh, hold on. 540 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:57,034 Hold on. 541 00:33:57,326 --> 00:33:59,829 Fuck. Theo, you know I know it, dude. Just give me a second. 542 00:33:59,912 --> 00:34:01,497 It's not Vieques, was it? 543 00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:03,875 Hold on, hold on... woah woah woah... huh! 544 00:34:04,667 --> 00:34:06,335 I got it. Give me five seconds. 545 00:34:06,419 --> 00:34:09,338 I got it. I just had it, Theo. Don't say it. 546 00:34:10,089 --> 00:34:11,089 Don't say it. 547 00:34:12,341 --> 00:34:14,302 It's such... Oh, my God, it's right there. 548 00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:16,679 I'm going to do this myself, Theo, so please don't... 549 00:34:16,763 --> 00:34:19,307 I have to. It's going to bother me if I don't. 550 00:34:20,224 --> 00:34:22,727 Even with that hint you just tried to give me, I still... 551 00:34:22,935 --> 00:34:24,103 But I know it. 552 00:34:24,395 --> 00:34:28,024 If I don't get it in 30 seconds, we'll move on. It's... 553 00:34:30,568 --> 00:34:32,403 Oh, wait, there it is, there it is. 554 00:34:32,487 --> 00:34:33,487 Fuck. 555 00:34:35,948 --> 00:34:38,201 Oh, my God, it's gonna... Culebra. 556 00:34:38,826 --> 00:34:41,788 Fuck you, Theo. 557 00:35:08,731 --> 00:35:12,777 So we're coming into Culebra and there's two mountains on either side. 558 00:35:13,361 --> 00:35:16,781 And as this pilot got closer, we had a crosswind. 559 00:35:17,323 --> 00:35:18,803 I didn't know shit about that. 560 00:35:18,866 --> 00:35:20,076 Rodney says, "Oh, by the way, 561 00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:23,121 this is one of the top-ten worst airports in the world to fly into." 562 00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:26,124 I was like, "You're ready to die for this shit, huh, Rodney?" 563 00:35:36,342 --> 00:35:37,885 Oh, he was scared, dude. 564 00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:40,096 He was, like, holding onto me so tight. 565 00:35:40,179 --> 00:35:43,516 Dude, our plane turned sideways and it is 566 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:45,017 fucking crazy. 567 00:35:50,898 --> 00:35:53,901 Oh, my God. I'm glad that's the last time I'll ever do that. 568 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:55,903 That bitch was scary as a motherfucker. 569 00:36:12,753 --> 00:36:14,630 It's just beautiful, man. The water... 570 00:36:14,714 --> 00:36:17,008 The number one beach in the world, might I add. 571 00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:18,301 Flamenco Beach. 572 00:36:18,551 --> 00:36:19,677 I think it's like... 573 00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:22,138 It's not very big. It's... 574 00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:25,766 It took me, to go all the way round the island in a jeep, 575 00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:27,268 half hour, 45 minutes. 576 00:36:28,394 --> 00:36:30,730 So the first night we were there... 577 00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:32,315 we had an early dinner. 578 00:36:32,398 --> 00:36:34,734 It was an early dinner and I ordered a lobster for dinner. 579 00:36:48,748 --> 00:36:52,126 It was a nice place and Rodney was like, 580 00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:54,295 like I said, man, he was in that mood, dude, 581 00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:57,006 and he was just trying to play the part while we were there, 582 00:36:57,089 --> 00:36:58,716 like he was some big-timer. 583 00:37:01,761 --> 00:37:02,803 The lobsters... 584 00:37:03,638 --> 00:37:05,181 They come up to you and they're like, 585 00:37:05,264 --> 00:37:06,641 "Y'all want lobster?" 586 00:37:06,724 --> 00:37:09,485 You say "yeah," and they go down to the bay and get this shit for you. 587 00:37:09,518 --> 00:37:12,188 Straight up. He went and grabbed the motherfucker and came back. 588 00:37:13,481 --> 00:37:17,443 Dude, this guy ordered a five-pound lobster and you see this thing, dude... 589 00:37:17,526 --> 00:37:20,988 I swear to God, Theo, it was that big around. 590 00:37:22,323 --> 00:37:24,784 That big around and it was, like, that tall. 591 00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:26,743 I swear to God. 592 00:37:27,286 --> 00:37:30,081 Rodney's, like, real particular about food. 593 00:37:30,623 --> 00:37:33,143 Like, he gets mad if you don't eat it, you know what I'm saying? 594 00:37:33,167 --> 00:37:36,045 So, I had this big-ass lobster in my face 595 00:37:36,128 --> 00:37:38,965 and I don't even like lobster, might I add. 596 00:37:39,048 --> 00:37:42,343 I was shoving it down my throat, because I knew Rodney was going to yell at me, 597 00:37:42,426 --> 00:37:44,780 'cause it was like a hundred dollars for the lobster, right? 598 00:37:44,804 --> 00:37:45,804 Luckily... 599 00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:48,849 Rodney tapped out, like, halfway into his, 600 00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:51,352 so I knew I was straight and I could put mine down. 601 00:37:51,435 --> 00:37:54,021 I was praying. I was, like, so happy, dude, 602 00:37:54,105 --> 00:37:56,866 'cause I was not looking forward to eating that whole fuckin' lobster. 603 00:37:56,941 --> 00:37:59,068 That night, I got sick as a motherfucker. 604 00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:08,160 On the way down, Andy tells me he forgot his medicine. 605 00:38:08,244 --> 00:38:10,124 I knew he was on pain medication, 606 00:38:10,204 --> 00:38:13,457 but I also knew it wasn't medicinal, it was recreational. 607 00:38:14,041 --> 00:38:15,251 And he was addicted 608 00:38:15,459 --> 00:38:20,840 and he was supposed to have brought his Suboxone or Methadone 609 00:38:21,132 --> 00:38:22,258 and he didn't have it. 610 00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:26,387 So, basically, by Saturday morning... 611 00:38:27,179 --> 00:38:28,764 he was sick as a dog, 612 00:38:29,181 --> 00:38:31,267 and he was totally worthless. 613 00:38:31,434 --> 00:38:33,728 Rodney thought I was withdrawing from drugs, 614 00:38:33,811 --> 00:38:36,230 but I believe it was the lobster. 615 00:38:40,067 --> 00:38:43,362 You know, Andy's getting sick at this point, man. I mean, it's like... 616 00:38:44,155 --> 00:38:47,575 "God, you're ruining this trip, dude. You're gonna ruin it." 617 00:38:48,534 --> 00:38:52,163 You see, in this world, there's two kinds of people, my friend. 618 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,540 Those with loaded guns... 619 00:38:55,291 --> 00:38:56,709 and those who dig. 620 00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:58,710 You dig. 621 00:39:01,088 --> 00:39:04,091 I left the room we were staying in 622 00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:06,802 and I went on a little expedition. 623 00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:17,772 Before we left, I went to see Julian and I took my laptop down there. 624 00:39:17,855 --> 00:39:21,275 We googled it up. He showed me where his trailer was. 625 00:39:21,692 --> 00:39:23,319 He showed me where he had buried it. 626 00:39:23,819 --> 00:39:28,699 If I could find his trailer, then I felt like I could find where it was at 627 00:39:28,783 --> 00:39:31,035 and do some investigating. 628 00:39:31,327 --> 00:39:32,661 Mobile home sits here, 629 00:39:32,745 --> 00:39:34,997 it's between the cistern and the mobile home. 630 00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:39,001 Well, my God, that was only a matter of six or eight-feet distance 631 00:39:39,085 --> 00:39:41,087 that I had to probe or search around 632 00:39:41,170 --> 00:39:42,713 to see if I could find something. 633 00:39:42,797 --> 00:39:47,176 So I took the jeep and went to where Julian's trailer was supposed to be. 634 00:40:11,242 --> 00:40:14,120 All I wanted to do was locate where the trailer was. 635 00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:18,207 But when I got there... man, there's no fuckin' mobile home there. 636 00:40:18,290 --> 00:40:19,333 It's gone. 637 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:23,295 I couldn't see Julian's trailer. I didn't find it. I couldn't find it. 638 00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:25,965 I did see a pile of debris. So I called Julian. 639 00:40:26,048 --> 00:40:29,009 "Julian, man, are you sure I'm in the right place?" He goes... 640 00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:32,721 "Was the desalination plant in front of you?" "Yeah." 641 00:40:33,222 --> 00:40:35,433 "Was the fish and wildlife office to your right?" 642 00:40:35,516 --> 00:40:36,434 "Yeah." 643 00:40:36,517 --> 00:40:38,519 "Well, it's right there to the left, man. 644 00:40:38,602 --> 00:40:39,770 You see the cistern?" 645 00:40:39,854 --> 00:40:40,688 "Yeah, I saw it." 646 00:40:40,771 --> 00:40:44,150 He goes, "It's right between the road and the cistern is where my trailer's at." 647 00:40:44,233 --> 00:40:45,776 I said, "Julian, it ain't there." 648 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:47,862 He's like, "Come on, man. 649 00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:49,822 They had to have torn it down then." 650 00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:52,158 But... I had another big problem. 651 00:40:52,241 --> 00:40:54,869 I had nothing to dig with. No shovel, no nothing. 652 00:40:54,952 --> 00:40:57,621 I mean, I thought they were readily available anywhere. 653 00:40:57,872 --> 00:41:00,583 Well, not in Culebra. There's no Walmart in Culebra. 654 00:41:07,256 --> 00:41:08,632 Julian's trailer was gone. 655 00:41:09,717 --> 00:41:12,344 Andy was sick as a dog, and I didn't have a shovel. 656 00:41:12,845 --> 00:41:15,014 End of deal, man. I mean, I'm... we're going home. 657 00:41:16,015 --> 00:41:19,185 So we left, the next morning. First flight I could get out, we left. 658 00:41:22,271 --> 00:41:23,939 Rodney and Andy went over to Puerto Rico. 659 00:41:24,023 --> 00:41:26,663 They get there and they realize they need shovels and stuff to dig. 660 00:41:26,734 --> 00:41:29,463 They couldn't find shovels. I mean, what the hell are they doing here? 661 00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:31,822 Look, motherfucker, if you wanted to know what's down here, 662 00:41:31,906 --> 00:41:33,586 you should have brought your ass down here. 663 00:41:33,616 --> 00:41:36,285 Like, don't fucking bother me. I'll call you. 664 00:41:36,535 --> 00:41:38,204 You probably never seen him get mad, huh? 665 00:41:38,287 --> 00:41:40,498 Dude, that is a scary fuckin' sight, like, 666 00:41:40,581 --> 00:41:42,041 I wanna run. 667 00:41:42,124 --> 00:41:45,294 Andy ended up being sick, in the hotel, couldn't help Rodney at all. 668 00:41:45,377 --> 00:41:47,671 So Rodney's out there, trying to dig this shit by himself. 669 00:41:47,755 --> 00:41:51,550 You've seen Rodney. He's a fat dude. So he ain't out there doing manual labor. 670 00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:53,552 So to do manual labor like this, he just... 671 00:41:53,636 --> 00:41:55,697 He's calling me, talking to me while he's doing this, 672 00:41:55,721 --> 00:41:57,515 out of breath and everything, pissed off. 673 00:41:57,598 --> 00:42:00,726 "Fuckin' Andy. He's sick in there, probably withdrawing, da da da da." 674 00:42:01,310 --> 00:42:04,855 Andy apologized about being sick. He said "It'll never happen again, 675 00:42:04,939 --> 00:42:07,233 but I promise you, we gotta go back down there." 676 00:42:07,733 --> 00:42:10,319 Yeah, I believe it's more about just incompetence, y'know. 677 00:42:10,402 --> 00:42:12,322 Which I kinda felt he wouldn't be able to anyway, 678 00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:15,533 but this much money, what was going on, you gotta let them try to do it again. 679 00:42:29,713 --> 00:42:32,258 Alright, so... Rodney was like, "We're gonna go in two weeks." 680 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,760 I'm not gonna waste a second trip down there. 681 00:42:34,843 --> 00:42:36,883 The first was wasted. I'm not wasting a second trip. 682 00:42:36,929 --> 00:42:40,849 So... I got with Julian and confirmed the location. 683 00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:44,603 Julian tells me exactly, you know, on the map, 684 00:42:44,687 --> 00:42:46,897 "Here's a cistern where they held water," 685 00:42:46,981 --> 00:42:50,943 and I even drew a section of it and kind of said, "X" marks the spot. 686 00:42:51,527 --> 00:42:53,237 Skull and crossbones, bro. 687 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,572 Are you kidding me? 688 00:42:54,655 --> 00:42:57,241 I didn't sleep the night before we left 689 00:42:57,324 --> 00:43:00,077 and I didn't sleep the night before we left the second trip. 690 00:43:00,661 --> 00:43:01,662 Let's go get it! 691 00:43:10,129 --> 00:43:12,172 I told my wife I was going on a fishing trip. 692 00:43:12,256 --> 00:43:14,216 I didn't lie to her. I just didn't tell her where. 693 00:43:20,055 --> 00:43:22,266 We went back after dark and... 694 00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:25,311 sat there for a minute, you know, making sure 695 00:43:26,103 --> 00:43:28,063 no lights came on heading my way. 696 00:43:29,023 --> 00:43:30,983 I'm thinking, "Golly... 697 00:43:31,525 --> 00:43:33,819 maybe a turn of one or two stones 698 00:43:33,902 --> 00:43:36,113 and I feel the top of a... 699 00:43:36,196 --> 00:43:38,282 of a duffel bag or something," and... 700 00:43:39,325 --> 00:43:42,411 "Am I gonna know something ten minutes from now or am I not?" 701 00:44:00,137 --> 00:44:03,390 It was an adrenaline rush altogether and, this time, 702 00:44:03,474 --> 00:44:04,683 I found a shovel. 703 00:44:13,192 --> 00:44:14,693 Who do you think was digging first? 704 00:44:15,194 --> 00:44:17,571 Yeah, Andy was the digger. He was the man. 705 00:44:26,455 --> 00:44:29,375 It was funny 'cause he doesn't have any ass, man. 706 00:44:29,458 --> 00:44:30,626 I mean, he just like... 707 00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:34,171 He tried and he's out of breath after about three strokes. 708 00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:36,358 - C'mon, man. - Take it. 709 00:44:36,382 --> 00:44:37,782 I was, like, "Man, fuck this shit." 710 00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:39,898 Then I got the shovel and tried. 711 00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:41,887 Rodney, I've never seen him work so hard. 712 00:44:42,388 --> 00:44:44,228 Straight up, I've never seen him do nothing but 713 00:44:44,306 --> 00:44:47,267 pointing motherfuckers out, tell 'em where to go, 'cause he's the boss. 714 00:44:47,851 --> 00:44:51,230 This motherfucker was down there digging with his bare hands. 715 00:44:54,942 --> 00:44:59,613 We got burned out trying to dig, in no time, because we were so excited. 716 00:45:00,155 --> 00:45:02,908 We were trying to make it happen quick, but it was like... 717 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,520 hitting your head against a wall. 718 00:45:09,456 --> 00:45:11,959 And... I was sitting there, 719 00:45:12,042 --> 00:45:15,838 in my head, I was like, "What the fuck are you doing right now, dude? 720 00:45:15,921 --> 00:45:19,842 Like, you're in another country. You're out here digging up cocaine. 721 00:45:20,634 --> 00:45:21,802 What the fuck are you doing?" 722 00:45:21,885 --> 00:45:24,513 I was praying that we did not find the coke. 723 00:45:43,407 --> 00:45:45,617 We tried to dig in this dirt, man, 724 00:45:45,701 --> 00:45:47,995 and he and I both were sweaty. 725 00:45:49,037 --> 00:45:53,041 I mean soaking wet with sweat within about 20 minutes. 726 00:45:53,125 --> 00:45:55,544 The ground was too hard. It was rock hard. 727 00:45:56,170 --> 00:45:57,170 We fucking... 728 00:45:57,755 --> 00:46:00,883 tried to start digging and it was just impossible and... 729 00:46:01,508 --> 00:46:03,308 that's when I was, like, "No, fuck this shit." 730 00:46:03,385 --> 00:46:05,971 Rodney stayed trying for fucking, like, two hours 731 00:46:06,054 --> 00:46:08,807 and then, finally, he went, like, "Man, this can't be done." 732 00:46:09,391 --> 00:46:11,727 You have to have a backhoe to dig in this dirt. 733 00:46:12,394 --> 00:46:15,147 It was so hard you weren't gonna dig. 734 00:46:15,439 --> 00:46:17,608 I'm in construction, man. I know how to di... 735 00:46:17,691 --> 00:46:19,568 I know when you can dig and when you can't. 736 00:46:19,651 --> 00:46:21,820 We'd made no progress and I was pissed. 737 00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:28,959 He's like, "Andy, if you get some weed, 738 00:46:28,994 --> 00:46:30,829 that will make this whole trip worthwhile." 739 00:46:31,205 --> 00:46:32,372 And so I went down the street 740 00:46:32,498 --> 00:46:35,083 and I found some little skater dudes and got a bag of weed. 741 00:46:35,584 --> 00:46:37,753 And it was some fucking trash. 742 00:46:38,837 --> 00:46:40,172 But it got me high. 743 00:46:53,435 --> 00:46:56,313 I almost brought some back with me just 'cause I knew we'd be straight. 744 00:46:56,396 --> 00:46:58,625 Luckily I didn't 'cause the second we got off that plane, 745 00:46:58,649 --> 00:47:01,276 Customs hit that plane... hard. 746 00:47:07,533 --> 00:47:09,201 We land in San Juan. 747 00:47:10,410 --> 00:47:11,410 All of a sudden... 748 00:47:16,750 --> 00:47:19,878 What the hell was going on? What's going on here? 749 00:47:20,254 --> 00:47:21,839 And they pulled everyone off the plane, 750 00:47:21,922 --> 00:47:25,509 lined up our luggage and hit the dogs all over this shit. 751 00:47:26,844 --> 00:47:28,484 I knew what they were there for. 752 00:47:30,222 --> 00:47:32,182 They were gonna check this plane... 753 00:47:33,267 --> 00:47:34,268 for drugs. 754 00:47:35,477 --> 00:47:37,229 Fuck, yeah, made me nervous, dude. 755 00:47:37,729 --> 00:47:39,022 But we didn't do it. 756 00:47:39,106 --> 00:47:43,569 And, 'cause we, me and Rodney, were never going to bring the cocaine back. 757 00:47:43,652 --> 00:47:46,196 But, I'm telling you, man... 758 00:47:46,822 --> 00:47:50,826 I'll never forget, that 30 minutes seemed like four hours. 759 00:47:51,368 --> 00:47:55,706 Well, after they searched, I said to myself, "It's over. 760 00:47:55,789 --> 00:47:58,792 I mean, that's the icing on the cake right there. 761 00:47:59,376 --> 00:48:03,005 I am not coming back, taking a chance, even if we'd have found it. 762 00:48:03,380 --> 00:48:04,423 No and hell no. 763 00:48:04,923 --> 00:48:06,341 I'm done. It's over." 764 00:48:09,136 --> 00:48:10,262 It was a wrap, bro. 765 00:48:11,513 --> 00:48:12,513 We're done. 766 00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:17,978 Till... Carlos called Rodney. 767 00:48:23,317 --> 00:48:25,986 When I got back I was done. It was over. 768 00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:27,154 It was a totally... 769 00:48:27,738 --> 00:48:28,906 failed mission. 770 00:48:28,989 --> 00:48:32,117 I had had it up to here with this whole story. 771 00:48:32,326 --> 00:48:34,995 I stopped answering my phone for a long time. 772 00:48:35,621 --> 00:48:38,040 At that point, I wanted to be done with Carlos. 773 00:48:38,457 --> 00:48:39,917 I wanted to be done with Danny. 774 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,669 But... he was being a nag. 775 00:48:43,003 --> 00:48:45,589 He was bugging the living shit out of me. 776 00:48:45,672 --> 00:48:48,717 So, finally, I picked up the phone. 777 00:48:48,926 --> 00:48:49,927 What? 778 00:48:50,218 --> 00:48:51,929 He called me with a whole new attitude. 779 00:48:52,554 --> 00:48:54,389 He's like, "I need to meet with you. 780 00:48:54,473 --> 00:48:57,225 I've got a new proposal for you and you're going to like it." 781 00:48:57,309 --> 00:49:00,228 And I said, "Carlos, it can't happen, man. 782 00:49:00,896 --> 00:49:05,067 We got searched. There's people all over that place. 783 00:49:05,192 --> 00:49:06,952 You're not gonna just go there and dig it up. 784 00:49:07,486 --> 00:49:10,906 It's crawling with federal employees. How are you gonna do this?" 785 00:49:10,989 --> 00:49:12,759 - He said... - I can do certain things 786 00:49:12,783 --> 00:49:15,535 that you can't because I'm Puerto Rican. You... 787 00:49:16,244 --> 00:49:17,371 are a gringo. 788 00:49:17,955 --> 00:49:18,955 He said... 789 00:49:20,123 --> 00:49:24,419 "Let's meet again. And, when we meet, make sure you bring the map." 790 00:49:30,842 --> 00:49:34,972 I wanted to hear his plan, you know, "What do you propose here, Carlos?" 791 00:49:35,722 --> 00:49:38,433 He was going to... go there... 792 00:49:39,434 --> 00:49:41,478 take a crew on a yacht... 793 00:49:42,187 --> 00:49:43,187 and... 794 00:49:43,522 --> 00:49:44,815 dig the cocaine up. 795 00:49:45,399 --> 00:49:46,858 'Cause he was gonna go dig it up, 796 00:49:46,942 --> 00:49:49,152 it was four kilograms, now he wanted eight. 797 00:49:49,403 --> 00:49:51,029 And I said, "Look, man... 798 00:49:51,697 --> 00:49:52,697 good deal." 799 00:49:52,739 --> 00:49:53,991 I don't have to do anything. 800 00:49:54,074 --> 00:49:56,451 They're gonna do everything. He's gonna go get it. 801 00:49:56,535 --> 00:49:58,745 Dee's gonna take it, Dee's gonna get rid of it 802 00:49:58,829 --> 00:50:00,747 and they're gonna bring me the cash. 803 00:50:00,831 --> 00:50:04,334 It went from easy money to... easier money. 804 00:50:04,876 --> 00:50:07,587 All I gotta do is give him the map. 805 00:50:24,146 --> 00:50:25,355 I did believe him. 806 00:50:26,565 --> 00:50:28,085 Was that a mistake? 807 00:50:34,322 --> 00:50:36,700 Amateur hour, dog. That's what it was. 808 00:50:37,576 --> 00:50:39,161 That's what it was, bro. 809 00:50:39,244 --> 00:50:42,122 From the get-go, I knew it was about a one in a million. 810 00:50:42,205 --> 00:50:43,498 You know, or ten in a million, 811 00:50:43,582 --> 00:50:45,000 whatever you want to say. 812 00:50:45,083 --> 00:50:47,627 Like, he mighta got lucky and fuckin' got it, but... 813 00:50:48,211 --> 00:50:50,338 dude, it just seems too good to be true but... 814 00:50:50,547 --> 00:50:52,883 being the naive person he was that day, 815 00:50:53,050 --> 00:50:55,594 I mean, that was set up for a robbery. 816 00:50:56,136 --> 00:50:57,136 You know, like... 817 00:50:58,430 --> 00:50:59,347 Like, who are we? 818 00:50:59,431 --> 00:51:02,267 Two white dudes in the middle of Florida with all this coke? 819 00:51:02,350 --> 00:51:05,645 What is to keep these big-time motherfuckers who got a plane 820 00:51:05,979 --> 00:51:07,019 from just taking the coke? 821 00:51:48,105 --> 00:51:50,816 I wanted to hear from him. I was hoping to hear from him. 822 00:51:50,899 --> 00:51:54,402 And he had me fired up at that meeting. He had me fired up. 823 00:51:55,070 --> 00:51:58,073 I thought, "This guy... I've asked him if he's, you know, how..." 824 00:51:58,156 --> 00:51:59,157 In a nice way, I said, 825 00:51:59,241 --> 00:52:02,244 "How do I know you're not gonna just get it and tell me you didn't find it?" 826 00:52:02,327 --> 00:52:06,790 He said, "I wouldn't be in business if I worked that way." 827 00:52:10,252 --> 00:52:13,338 I trusted that he was gonna do what he said he was gonna do, 828 00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:17,259 but it was a mistake for me to even talk to him after I got back. 829 00:52:17,342 --> 00:52:19,344 I should have just not even talked to him. 830 00:52:19,427 --> 00:52:22,556 I should have told him and Dee to take a walk and leave me alone, 831 00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:23,639 but I didn't. 832 00:52:25,851 --> 00:52:28,228 He did just what I said. He ripped me off. 833 00:52:28,311 --> 00:52:30,063 And... it's over. 834 00:52:30,147 --> 00:52:31,147 It's over. 835 00:52:46,329 --> 00:52:47,956 I trusted him... 836 00:52:48,123 --> 00:52:49,666 And it's over. It's over. 837 00:53:05,348 --> 00:53:06,433 He found it. 838 00:53:10,061 --> 00:53:11,938 Fuckin' Julian ain't lying! 839 00:53:12,022 --> 00:53:13,815 It's there! I'd have kissed him. 840 00:53:13,899 --> 00:53:17,139 I'd have hugged his neck and said, "Man, I'm sorry I called you a son of a bitch." 841 00:53:17,694 --> 00:53:20,071 Because he sent me the picture. 842 00:53:20,155 --> 00:53:21,281 Now it's real. 843 00:53:21,364 --> 00:53:22,924 "What am I going to do with the money?" 844 00:53:24,034 --> 00:53:26,745 "How is Julian gonna look when I'm handing him... 845 00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:29,414 stacks of hundred-dollar bills?" 846 00:53:29,497 --> 00:53:32,334 You know, "What's Julian gonna think?" 847 00:53:33,126 --> 00:53:35,378 I didn't sleep, man. I didn't sleep all night. 848 00:53:35,462 --> 00:53:39,341 I would lay down and close my eyes and just picture 849 00:53:39,424 --> 00:53:41,343 big packages of cocaine. 850 00:54:08,703 --> 00:54:10,830 Now... when is he coming back? 851 00:54:12,249 --> 00:54:14,459 It was a long, hard wait. 852 00:54:16,795 --> 00:54:20,590 It was like being a kid on Christmas Eve, man. 853 00:54:20,674 --> 00:54:23,927 Y'know, it's like, "How am I gonna get through tomorrow and the next day?" 854 00:54:24,010 --> 00:54:25,971 'Cause Carlos said that I'd see him Friday. 855 00:54:29,140 --> 00:54:31,768 Well... when Carlos finally made contact with me, 856 00:54:31,851 --> 00:54:33,611 and I answered the phone... 857 00:54:33,645 --> 00:54:35,689 he said, "Let's meet at the golf resort," 858 00:54:35,772 --> 00:54:39,109 and then he called me back and changed it to a new location. 859 00:54:39,192 --> 00:54:42,487 And then he says that I had 30 minutes to meet him 860 00:54:42,570 --> 00:54:43,780 or he wasn't going to be there 861 00:54:43,863 --> 00:54:45,240 when I got there, it was over. 862 00:54:45,824 --> 00:54:48,159 First I'm going here, now I'm going here? Fuck, y'all. 863 00:54:48,702 --> 00:54:51,246 If I didn't hurry, he was leaving the country 864 00:54:51,329 --> 00:54:53,456 and I wouldn't see him ever again. 865 00:54:53,540 --> 00:54:56,418 I was driving like a bat out of hell and hauling ass. 866 00:55:03,341 --> 00:55:07,387 I couldn't get a hold of Andy and Danny had a flat and couldn't make it, 867 00:55:07,470 --> 00:55:09,055 which was pissing me off. 868 00:55:09,139 --> 00:55:11,224 Like, "Where the fuck are you guys?" 869 00:55:13,143 --> 00:55:15,812 "Goddamn, I'm not gonna make it. You know, he's gonna be gone." 870 00:55:15,895 --> 00:55:17,272 Oh, it's a fucking nightmare. 871 00:55:35,749 --> 00:55:39,377 I made it, dude. It was cutting it close, but I made it. 872 00:55:43,006 --> 00:55:47,260 He told me he would be inside. He was buying a rod and reel, was what it was. 873 00:55:47,469 --> 00:55:50,764 So I walked in, went past the cash register and he's coming down the hallway 874 00:55:50,847 --> 00:55:53,058 with a little short fishing pole in his hand. 875 00:55:53,892 --> 00:55:58,188 Carlos looks at me and I look at him and I said, "Man, I'm so glad I made it." 876 00:55:59,689 --> 00:56:00,899 I felt bad about... 877 00:56:02,025 --> 00:56:05,570 some of the thoughts I had about him, wondering if he was a rip-off, 878 00:56:05,653 --> 00:56:08,782 wondering if he was gonna... live up to what he said. 879 00:56:09,324 --> 00:56:12,035 I was kinda feeling like I owed him an apology. 880 00:56:17,123 --> 00:56:19,751 I take it all back, what I thought about Carlos. 881 00:56:19,834 --> 00:56:21,336 He wasn't an asshole. 882 00:56:21,419 --> 00:56:25,173 He's a businessman and he did what he said he was gonna do. 883 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,218 He just does business a little different than I do. 884 00:56:28,676 --> 00:56:30,595 And I remember saying to him, 885 00:56:30,678 --> 00:56:34,933 "Hey, man, I wish there was more business to be done," because he'd been successful. 886 00:56:36,434 --> 00:56:39,979 It's Christmas morning and I've got the biggest present under the tree 887 00:56:40,063 --> 00:56:41,481 and I'm getting ready to open it. 888 00:56:41,564 --> 00:56:44,984 He gave me his key, pointed out to his car. It was at the end of the parking lot. 889 00:56:45,068 --> 00:56:47,779 He goes, "There's my car. Go ahead and pull around there. 890 00:56:47,862 --> 00:56:50,490 Open the trunk and I'll be right there." 891 00:56:51,157 --> 00:56:52,534 So... that's what I did. 892 00:56:59,541 --> 00:57:02,544 When he pointed to his car, he was at the far end of the parking lot. 893 00:57:02,794 --> 00:57:04,754 So I went all the way around, 894 00:57:04,838 --> 00:57:09,467 because I'm fixing to pick up a pretty substantial 895 00:57:09,551 --> 00:57:12,554 package here, and I was starting to get a little paranoid here. 896 00:57:18,893 --> 00:57:20,520 But there wasn't anybody around. 897 00:57:35,618 --> 00:57:36,786 I go to his trunk... 898 00:57:37,537 --> 00:57:38,621 I opened it up... 899 00:57:39,581 --> 00:57:41,207 and couldn't believe it. 900 00:58:15,408 --> 00:58:16,408 Well... 901 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,041 my whole outlook on it was how many times do you... 902 00:58:24,751 --> 00:58:25,960 meet somebody that... 903 00:58:26,586 --> 00:58:28,755 buried a treasure, literally? 904 00:58:29,631 --> 00:58:32,217 And, at the same time, how many times do you meet somebody 905 00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:34,460 that can go get it and bring it back and get rid of it? 906 00:58:35,637 --> 00:58:37,972 It is a once-in-a-lifetime deal. I mean... 907 00:58:38,556 --> 00:58:41,809 You're never gonna have all that come together ever again in your life. 908 00:58:43,353 --> 00:58:45,188 And... it was like... 909 00:58:46,648 --> 00:58:47,648 do it or die. 910 01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:04,183 Hey, man! I can help you with that story. 911 01:00:04,267 --> 01:00:06,394 That story, that story, that story... 912 01:00:24,162 --> 01:00:25,806 They pulled me over 913 01:00:25,830 --> 01:00:28,499 because I was driving too close to the car in front of me, 914 01:00:28,583 --> 01:00:30,960 which is bullshit. It was just a reason for them to pull me. 915 01:00:55,234 --> 01:00:58,321 They patted me down and searched me and didn't find nothing, you know, 916 01:00:58,404 --> 01:01:01,574 and I had to use the bathroom at the time, I really legitly did. 917 01:01:01,658 --> 01:01:03,743 What I shoulda done is went ahead and pissed myself. 918 01:01:06,329 --> 01:01:08,682 The other cop said, "Did you pat him down?" He said, "Yeah." 919 01:01:08,706 --> 01:01:10,386 He said "Did ya 'whoop'?" He did like that. 920 01:01:10,416 --> 01:01:12,096 Like, check me, y'know. And he said, "No." 921 01:01:12,210 --> 01:01:14,128 So he actually checked me 922 01:01:14,212 --> 01:01:17,173 and he reached down there and grabbed my, y'know, nut sack area. 923 01:01:34,982 --> 01:01:35,982 So they sit me down and, 924 01:01:36,025 --> 01:01:37,443 I dunno, my hands, 925 01:01:37,527 --> 01:01:39,967 I've got small wrists and my thumbs are, like, double-jointed. 926 01:01:40,029 --> 01:01:41,669 Always been able to slide outta handcuffs. 927 01:01:41,739 --> 01:01:43,157 Just always been able to do it. 928 01:01:43,241 --> 01:01:45,243 So I'm sitting there. There's three of us. 929 01:01:45,326 --> 01:01:48,087 So when I seen both the male officers go to the back of the other car, 930 01:01:48,162 --> 01:01:49,080 just the female there, 931 01:01:49,163 --> 01:01:50,707 I stood up and took off. 932 01:01:50,790 --> 01:01:51,790 Hey! 933 01:02:13,438 --> 01:02:14,856 I took off around the corner 934 01:02:14,939 --> 01:02:17,299 by the time I got round the back of the store, he was on me. 935 01:02:20,278 --> 01:02:23,448 It's always aggressive. There's no such thing as not aggressive. 936 01:02:27,326 --> 01:02:28,369 Once I knew they had it 937 01:02:28,453 --> 01:02:31,093 and they put me in a car, I knew there was no getting away from it. 938 01:02:31,122 --> 01:02:33,642 I'm sitting there, everything's running through my mind, y'know. 939 01:02:34,083 --> 01:02:35,363 I've been to prison three times. 940 01:02:35,418 --> 01:02:38,397 They didn't have to tell me the time I was facing. I knew what I was facing. 941 01:02:38,421 --> 01:02:39,421 And I'm facing life. 942 01:02:39,464 --> 01:02:42,091 No ifs and buts. I'm never getting out, is what I'm looking at. 943 01:02:42,175 --> 01:02:44,570 So the officer came to talk to me 944 01:02:44,594 --> 01:02:46,194 and asked me would I be willing to work? 945 01:02:46,929 --> 01:02:49,515 I said, "Well, you know, if I am, what's the procedures?" 946 01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:50,767 And he straight up told me, 947 01:02:50,850 --> 01:02:52,935 if I was willing to work, I'd go home, right then. 948 01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:56,159 "Depending on what you can give us depends on what happens to you." 949 01:02:56,355 --> 01:02:59,192 So once they told me that, I knew I had to give them something bigger. 950 01:02:59,275 --> 01:03:02,036 For me to get off, I had to give 'em something bigger than what I had. 951 01:03:05,948 --> 01:03:08,910 So I told them, "How about $2 million of cocaine coming into this country? 952 01:03:08,993 --> 01:03:09,994 Would that be enough?" 953 01:03:12,872 --> 01:03:14,373 "Y'all ready to go on a treasure hunt 954 01:03:14,457 --> 01:03:16,751 for 32 keys of fucking cocaine coming into this country?" 955 01:03:23,257 --> 01:03:26,427 ♪ Picture this, I'm a bag of dicks Put me to your lips ♪ 956 01:03:26,511 --> 01:03:29,305 ♪ I am sick I will punch a baby bear in his shit ♪ 957 01:03:29,388 --> 01:03:31,724 ♪ Give me lip I'mma send you to the yard ♪ 958 01:03:31,808 --> 01:03:35,144 ♪ Get a stick, make a switch I can end the conversation real quick ♪ 959 01:03:35,228 --> 01:03:38,272 ♪ I am crack, I ain't lying Kick a lion in his crack ♪ 960 01:03:38,356 --> 01:03:41,484 ♪ I'm the shit, I will fall off In your crib, take a shit ♪ 961 01:03:41,567 --> 01:03:44,320 ♪ Screaming yes, I am guilty Motherfuckers, I am death ♪ 962 01:03:45,655 --> 01:03:47,240 ♪ You wanna hear a good joke? ♪ 963 01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:50,451 ♪ Nobody speak, nobody get choked ♪ 964 01:04:01,838 --> 01:04:04,006 ♪ Fuck out of here... yeah ♪ 965 01:04:11,097 --> 01:04:13,933 ♪ Nobody speak, Nobody get choked, hey ♪ 966 01:04:21,232 --> 01:04:22,942 ♪ Live to shoot another day ♪ 967 01:04:31,909 --> 01:04:33,953 Live from CBS 47, 968 01:04:34,036 --> 01:04:36,706 this is Action News At 5:30, 969 01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:38,708 Your Questions. Answered. 970 01:04:39,375 --> 01:04:43,087 Tonight, we begin with a federal sting involving a local man, 971 01:04:43,170 --> 01:04:46,007 a treasure map, and a remote Puerto Rican island. 972 01:04:46,090 --> 01:04:47,550 Investigators followed the map. 973 01:04:47,633 --> 01:04:51,178 Now, they didn't find any treasure, but what they did find is worth a lot of money 974 01:04:51,262 --> 01:04:52,805 and it's also illegal. 975 01:04:52,889 --> 01:04:54,889 It sounds like something out of a movie. 976 01:04:54,932 --> 01:04:57,935 A treasure map that leads to buried treasure on a remote island. 977 01:04:58,019 --> 01:05:01,314 I've been in law enforcement for 25 years 978 01:05:01,564 --> 01:05:03,858 and I've yet to have seen a situation exactly like this. 979 01:05:04,275 --> 01:05:08,613 But instead of treasure, 54-year-old Rodney Hyden ended up with drug charges. 980 01:05:09,155 --> 01:05:10,948 It all started back in June. 981 01:05:11,032 --> 01:05:14,201 A detective from the Alachua County Sheriff's Office received a tip 982 01:05:14,285 --> 01:05:15,202 about the Archer man. 983 01:05:15,286 --> 01:05:17,788 He had flown over to Puerto Rico to find it himself. 984 01:05:17,872 --> 01:05:21,459 He locates the pile near a turtle sanctuary on the island of Culebra 985 01:05:21,542 --> 01:05:23,294 but doesn't have the tools to dig it up. 986 01:05:23,419 --> 01:05:24,779 That's when the undercover agents, 987 01:05:24,837 --> 01:05:27,256 posing as drug-trafficking pilots, step in. 988 01:05:27,340 --> 01:05:31,010 Never in my experiences the... criminals provided us 989 01:05:31,093 --> 01:05:34,680 with a map leading us to the illicit drugs. 990 01:05:34,847 --> 01:05:36,807 Hmm. Interesting story. 991 01:05:36,891 --> 01:05:40,478 Yeah, Lauren Hallacher reporting, federal agents arrested Hyden on Friday 992 01:05:40,561 --> 01:05:44,106 for possession of five kilograms or more of cocaine, with the intent to distribute. 993 01:05:44,190 --> 01:05:47,985 Federal agents have the cocaine saved as evidence now for Hyden's trial. 994 01:05:54,408 --> 01:05:55,993 The ride to jail didn't bother me. 995 01:05:56,869 --> 01:05:58,704 Spending the night in jail didn't bother me. 996 01:06:00,539 --> 01:06:02,333 Being stupid didn't bother me. 997 01:06:02,416 --> 01:06:06,504 Now it was a matter of my family's livelihood. 998 01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:10,633 What are they gonna do without me? Because I'm going to prison. 999 01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:15,470 My cell phone rang. 1000 01:06:16,180 --> 01:06:19,433 And... it wasn't a number that I recognized 1001 01:06:19,809 --> 01:06:21,310 and it asked me... 1002 01:06:21,852 --> 01:06:25,189 if I was Jamie Hyden and I said, "Yes, who's this?" 1003 01:06:25,815 --> 01:06:28,943 And they proceeded to tell me that... 1004 01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:34,240 That my husband had been incarcerated by Homeland Security. 1005 01:06:36,867 --> 01:06:40,746 "What do you mean? Jacksonville? Homeland Security? Cocaine?" 1006 01:06:42,456 --> 01:06:43,833 I fucked up. Yeah. 1007 01:06:44,125 --> 01:06:46,186 It was the stupidest thing I've ever done in my life, 1008 01:06:46,210 --> 01:06:48,504 and I'm guilty for my part in it, but... 1009 01:06:50,381 --> 01:06:53,009 all that had to be done at any point was... 1010 01:06:53,926 --> 01:06:58,681 "We know what you're doing, just give us the map and we'll go get it and take..." 1011 01:06:59,348 --> 01:07:01,809 You know, slap me on the hand. But no. 1012 01:07:03,144 --> 01:07:06,105 They had to make a big drug dealer and a big drug king out of me. 1013 01:07:10,443 --> 01:07:15,865 I mean, it's not much different than the damn piece of fruit in the Garden of Eden. 1014 01:07:17,324 --> 01:07:19,368 "Just take a bite. Just take a bite." 1015 01:07:20,202 --> 01:07:21,328 "Just give me a map." 1016 01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:24,373 "Just give me a map. You don't have to do anything." 1017 01:07:25,416 --> 01:07:26,584 Fuck you. 1018 01:07:27,460 --> 01:07:28,660 My name is Ryan McEnany. 1019 01:07:28,711 --> 01:07:31,297 I'm a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations. 1020 01:07:31,922 --> 01:07:33,049 My name is Joe Rawley. 1021 01:07:33,132 --> 01:07:36,218 I'm a former detective with the Alachua County Sheriff's Office. 1022 01:07:52,568 --> 01:07:53,611 Rodney? 1023 01:07:59,033 --> 01:08:01,535 I went to Tampa this weekend and talked to my boy. 1024 01:08:01,994 --> 01:08:03,034 Is he interested? 1025 01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:06,373 He said that... He trusts me. He said he's real skeptical. 1026 01:08:06,457 --> 01:08:09,752 He said, y'know, nobody ever really finds shit like that, you know what I mean? 1027 01:08:09,835 --> 01:08:12,004 - That shit sounds too good to be true. - It does. 1028 01:08:12,088 --> 01:08:14,006 - It does. - That's exactly what he told me... 1029 01:08:14,215 --> 01:08:15,466 Tell him I said the same thing. 1030 01:08:15,549 --> 01:08:18,761 Hey, if it wasn't for you, Dee, I wouldn't know where to get rid of it. 1031 01:08:18,844 --> 01:08:22,348 If it weren't for you... I didn't know nobody that had shit like that. 1032 01:08:22,431 --> 01:08:24,951 - Well, I ain't got it yet. - It goes both ways, know what I mean? 1033 01:08:24,975 --> 01:08:28,979 That's it. It's just a one-time-in-a-life chance, opportunity. 1034 01:08:29,313 --> 01:08:32,900 And if it's done right, you could walk away from it, nobody ever knew shit. 1035 01:08:34,693 --> 01:08:36,070 Essentially, in the... 1036 01:08:37,321 --> 01:08:40,324 With narcotics traffickers, you're looking to 1037 01:08:40,407 --> 01:08:43,119 generally catch a smaller fish... 1038 01:08:43,661 --> 01:08:44,870 when you're going out. 1039 01:08:44,954 --> 01:08:48,082 And then you essentially use that smaller fish 1040 01:08:48,165 --> 01:08:51,377 to go after larger fish, who are above them. 1041 01:08:51,460 --> 01:08:53,587 You always want to be working up to the bigger fish. 1042 01:08:53,671 --> 01:08:55,548 Rodney was like... 1043 01:08:56,715 --> 01:08:58,843 The fish that had never been caught before. 1044 01:08:59,552 --> 01:09:01,929 Because... he wasn't really a fish. 1045 01:09:02,429 --> 01:09:04,515 Rodney was a unicorn. 1046 01:09:07,184 --> 01:09:08,853 Just some... thing 1047 01:09:08,936 --> 01:09:11,397 that was out there that no one's ever gonna see again. 1048 01:09:11,939 --> 01:09:13,274 And if it weren't 1049 01:09:13,357 --> 01:09:14,692 for our involvement... 1050 01:09:15,234 --> 01:09:17,444 he would have just been sitting with... 1051 01:09:17,945 --> 01:09:19,446 Well... probably robbed. 1052 01:09:19,738 --> 01:09:22,258 If it didn't happen like it did I was gonna take it from Rodney, 1053 01:09:22,283 --> 01:09:24,577 so odds were stacked against him. He woulda never got it. 1054 01:09:25,077 --> 01:09:27,788 Never. Truthfully, I'd have buried him to get that. 1055 01:09:27,997 --> 01:09:29,415 Anybody from the street would have. 1056 01:09:29,498 --> 01:09:32,793 That much money? You have people kill people for $10,000. 1057 01:09:32,877 --> 01:09:34,077 You're talkin' about millions. 1058 01:09:34,170 --> 01:09:35,713 That Cuban snitch. 1059 01:09:35,796 --> 01:09:38,591 That boy needs to go on a one-way grouper trip. 1060 01:09:40,509 --> 01:09:43,345 Err... Rodney never told me what he was up to. 1061 01:09:43,429 --> 01:09:45,681 I had no... 'Cause I woulda... 1062 01:09:46,348 --> 01:09:48,184 climbed his ass about it. 1063 01:09:48,392 --> 01:09:52,271 Most people would roll over and snitch on everybody and... 1064 01:09:52,771 --> 01:09:53,771 He... 1065 01:09:53,856 --> 01:09:55,107 He manned up and... 1066 01:09:56,150 --> 01:09:58,360 took the load on himself, yeah. 1067 01:09:59,153 --> 01:10:00,696 And I respect him for that. 1068 01:10:00,779 --> 01:10:04,408 "They're obviously coming for me next," is what kept going through my mind. 1069 01:10:05,159 --> 01:10:06,759 They came for me but it wasn't for that. 1070 01:10:06,827 --> 01:10:10,831 It was to fuckin' be put fuckin'... witness stand. 1071 01:10:15,336 --> 01:10:16,962 My name is Mark Rosenblum 1072 01:10:17,046 --> 01:10:19,548 and I was hired to represent Rodney Hyden. 1073 01:10:20,257 --> 01:10:25,804 Rodney's a very bright guy. He is. But, in this situation, he was naive. 1074 01:10:25,888 --> 01:10:26,931 He's a dreamer 1075 01:10:27,014 --> 01:10:30,267 and this was a dream that was presented to him 1076 01:10:30,476 --> 01:10:33,312 that he never would have come up with on his own. 1077 01:10:33,896 --> 01:10:39,610 First of all, Rodney did not even know how much a kilo of cocaine sold for. 1078 01:10:40,361 --> 01:10:42,279 And the important thing to remember is 1079 01:10:42,655 --> 01:10:44,823 that Rodney couldn't have sold the cocaine, 1080 01:10:44,907 --> 01:10:46,992 because he didn't know anybody to sell it to. 1081 01:10:47,493 --> 01:10:49,453 Rodney didn't have any of those contacts. 1082 01:10:50,204 --> 01:10:52,623 He was just a... player in a game. 1083 01:10:53,374 --> 01:10:55,417 And... Rodney... 1084 01:10:57,127 --> 01:11:00,089 couldn't move up or down, because he couldn't move anything. 1085 01:11:00,839 --> 01:11:01,924 He couldn't move... 1086 01:11:02,841 --> 01:11:03,842 a dime bag. 1087 01:11:04,551 --> 01:11:08,764 I firmly believe, had a profiter not been present... 1088 01:11:09,556 --> 01:11:14,186 he would have attempted to try to seek out somebody to the best of his ability. 1089 01:11:14,311 --> 01:11:16,711 I don't think he would have been successful in that, however. 1090 01:11:17,523 --> 01:11:19,358 He partnered with the wrong person. 1091 01:11:20,901 --> 01:11:21,901 Well, he... 1092 01:11:22,319 --> 01:11:24,947 unbeknownst to him, partnered with the United States Government. 1093 01:11:25,781 --> 01:11:30,744 Entrapment is being induced or persuaded to commit a crime 1094 01:11:30,828 --> 01:11:34,081 that you did not have the predisposition to commit, 1095 01:11:34,164 --> 01:11:36,333 by a law enforcement official, 1096 01:11:36,625 --> 01:11:39,336 like a police officer, a government agent 1097 01:11:39,420 --> 01:11:44,800 or a confidential informant who's acting on behalf of a law enforcement officer. 1098 01:11:45,509 --> 01:11:48,109 He needs to quit his whining about this entrapment bullshit, 1099 01:11:48,387 --> 01:11:50,347 because he was gonna get that cocaine. 1100 01:11:51,390 --> 01:11:52,808 How is that not entrapment? 1101 01:11:55,686 --> 01:11:56,686 Anybody? 1102 01:11:59,940 --> 01:12:01,984 It's every sense of the word, right? 1103 01:12:02,735 --> 01:12:06,655 "We will go get the shit for you and give us some... 1104 01:12:07,323 --> 01:12:08,824 and we go about our business." 1105 01:12:08,907 --> 01:12:11,452 Rodney didn't commit a crime, dude. 1106 01:12:11,535 --> 01:12:15,331 Here you have, Mr. Hyden, wanting a pilot, okay? 1107 01:12:15,664 --> 01:12:19,084 You know, wanting the connections to distribute it on the street. 1108 01:12:20,419 --> 01:12:21,962 And willing to pay people for it. 1109 01:12:24,048 --> 01:12:25,174 That's a crime. 1110 01:12:25,466 --> 01:12:26,884 Oh, we didn't do it. 1111 01:12:26,967 --> 01:12:28,635 We couldn't. It was impossible. 1112 01:12:29,928 --> 01:12:31,513 It's not our fault he couldn't find it. 1113 01:12:31,597 --> 01:12:33,682 It was there, 'cause we went out there and dug it up. 1114 01:12:36,352 --> 01:12:38,354 Right? 1115 01:12:39,605 --> 01:12:40,898 It's bullshit. 1116 01:12:42,232 --> 01:12:45,569 And we're a casualty... of bullshit. 1117 01:12:46,278 --> 01:12:47,738 Did we hold a gun to his head 1118 01:12:47,821 --> 01:12:49,883 and say, "You need to go there and find the cocaine?" 1119 01:12:49,907 --> 01:12:52,493 You're playing with real human lives. 1120 01:12:52,576 --> 01:12:55,496 Put the goddamn real drug addict in jail. 1121 01:12:55,579 --> 01:12:57,414 Don't let them set up people. 1122 01:12:57,915 --> 01:12:59,291 It's fuckin' bullshit, man. 1123 01:13:00,125 --> 01:13:02,753 Well, the thing you need to understand about trial work is 1124 01:13:02,836 --> 01:13:05,214 that you cannot predict what a jury is going to do. 1125 01:13:06,131 --> 01:13:08,342 You never really want to go to trial, 1126 01:13:08,425 --> 01:13:09,927 because you don't know what 1127 01:13:10,010 --> 01:13:12,262 a group of people will decide. 1128 01:13:12,763 --> 01:13:16,266 But they weren't offering us a choice. 1129 01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:21,480 If the amount of cocaine involved in the case is five kilograms or more, 1130 01:13:21,563 --> 01:13:26,318 there is a mandatory minimum sentence that's required, of ten years in prison. 1131 01:13:26,777 --> 01:13:29,238 You hope that they see it your way, 1132 01:13:29,321 --> 01:13:31,782 but there's 12 individual people. 1133 01:13:32,408 --> 01:13:35,452 I didn't know if he would ever be coming home. 1134 01:13:36,036 --> 01:13:37,663 I didn't know what was going to happen. 1135 01:13:42,126 --> 01:13:47,089 The courtroom atmosphere was like in any other trial when a verdict is read, 1136 01:13:47,172 --> 01:13:49,341 which is that everything was very quiet. 1137 01:13:50,217 --> 01:13:52,928 And it was a very dramatic moment. 1138 01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:06,900 They read the verdict and the verdict was guilty. 1139 01:14:30,549 --> 01:14:32,885 There's a reason we have tissues in the courtroom. 1140 01:14:32,968 --> 01:14:34,845 There's a lot of crying that goes on. 1141 01:14:34,928 --> 01:14:36,722 Regardless of the entrapment defense... 1142 01:14:37,222 --> 01:14:39,391 not being successful with the jury, 1143 01:14:39,641 --> 01:14:42,603 It turned out that, likely, if the government... 1144 01:14:43,437 --> 01:14:48,859 hadn't helped dig it up and bring it over to the United States, 1145 01:14:49,109 --> 01:14:53,071 it is very uncertain that Mr. Hyden would have been able to pull that off. 1146 01:14:53,155 --> 01:14:59,661 This case reminded me of a combination of Walter Mitty meeting Breaking Bad. 1147 01:15:00,370 --> 01:15:03,916 Normally, it would have been 120-month minimum mandatory. 1148 01:15:03,999 --> 01:15:08,545 I would have not had any choice but to sentence Mr. Hyden to at least ten years. 1149 01:15:08,795 --> 01:15:09,795 Normally. 1150 01:15:09,963 --> 01:15:12,716 But... there's something called "the safety valve." 1151 01:15:12,799 --> 01:15:16,595 And the safety valve says, if you're a first-time offender, which he was, 1152 01:15:16,887 --> 01:15:19,848 and you have no previous criminal history, which he didn't, 1153 01:15:20,140 --> 01:15:23,143 and you meet a number of other sentencing factors, 1154 01:15:23,477 --> 01:15:25,771 the minimum mandatory is waived. 1155 01:15:26,271 --> 01:15:29,983 Thank God for that judge, dude, that he saw this for what it was. 1156 01:15:30,150 --> 01:15:31,150 Bullshit. 1157 01:15:31,193 --> 01:15:34,196 Judge Corrigan is a fantastic judge. 1158 01:15:34,488 --> 01:15:36,365 And that was my glimmer of hope. 1159 01:15:37,324 --> 01:15:42,037 A long period of incarceration just didn't make any sense in this case. 1160 01:15:42,538 --> 01:15:45,165 And so, once I had made that decision, 1161 01:15:45,332 --> 01:15:50,504 then... why not use the advantages that Mr. Hyden does have 1162 01:15:50,796 --> 01:15:52,089 for the good of the community? 1163 01:15:52,839 --> 01:15:56,843 He sentenced me to 60 days in jail and five years' probation. 1164 01:15:57,886 --> 01:16:01,390 There's always the one or two nosy Nellies. 1165 01:16:01,473 --> 01:16:04,101 And, of course, their question is, "Were you gonna leave him?" 1166 01:16:08,772 --> 01:16:11,692 But I promised him I'd stand by him. 1167 01:16:13,986 --> 01:16:15,279 Because I love him. 1168 01:16:19,449 --> 01:16:20,867 My wife picked me up 1169 01:16:20,951 --> 01:16:23,245 and being married for... 1170 01:16:23,912 --> 01:16:27,916 twenty-three years, one of the things that kind of fades away is kissing... 1171 01:16:28,250 --> 01:16:29,751 and I couldn't wait to kiss her, man. 1172 01:16:29,835 --> 01:16:31,435 I gave her a big one right on the mouth. 1173 01:16:39,261 --> 01:16:43,098 I also sentenced him to community service. 1174 01:16:43,181 --> 01:16:45,434 And in this case, the community service was 1175 01:16:45,892 --> 01:16:50,022 that he work 20 hours a week for Habitat for Humanity, every week. 1176 01:16:50,647 --> 01:16:53,984 And he will continue to do that 20 hours a week for five years. 1177 01:16:58,989 --> 01:17:02,159 Look, it's the stupidest thing I've ever done in my life. 1178 01:17:02,242 --> 01:17:03,243 I'm not proud of it. 1179 01:17:03,452 --> 01:17:05,454 How I didn't see it, how I didn't... 1180 01:17:05,537 --> 01:17:07,164 realize what was going on... 1181 01:17:07,247 --> 01:17:09,833 I watch movies. I've heard of people getting busted. 1182 01:17:09,916 --> 01:17:13,962 But out of all the bad and the ignorance and the stupidity on my part, 1183 01:17:14,129 --> 01:17:16,089 there has been some good from this story. 1184 01:17:16,590 --> 01:17:19,193 I've helped lots of families. I tell you, 1185 01:17:19,217 --> 01:17:20,417 it's such a good feeling to... 1186 01:17:21,094 --> 01:17:23,680 build their home for them and then... 1187 01:17:24,348 --> 01:17:26,183 hand them the keys at the end and... 1188 01:17:27,017 --> 01:17:27,893 you start cr... 1189 01:17:27,976 --> 01:17:30,771 You both hug each other and start crying. It's emotional. 1190 01:17:30,854 --> 01:17:31,854 I love it. 1191 01:17:31,897 --> 01:17:33,273 It made a better person out of me. 1192 01:17:41,198 --> 01:17:42,783 As far as the story he told you, 1193 01:17:42,866 --> 01:17:45,786 he's trying to get his business back on the ground. That's understandable. 1194 01:17:45,869 --> 01:17:47,496 But the truth be told, you know, 1195 01:17:47,704 --> 01:17:49,748 it ain't like he... tricked into it or nothing. 1196 01:17:49,831 --> 01:17:51,667 He knew full well what the hell he was doing. 1197 01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:54,461 And he wants to blame society for taking a dump on him 1198 01:17:54,544 --> 01:17:56,064 and all this for the reason he did it. 1199 01:17:56,129 --> 01:17:58,131 No. Be accountable for your own actions. 1200 01:18:01,343 --> 01:18:03,929 The economy took a dump on everybody. 1201 01:18:04,012 --> 01:18:05,932 Ain't everybody go try to get 32 keys of cocaine. 1202 01:18:05,972 --> 01:18:08,225 Rodney tried to go get 32 keys of cocaine. 1203 01:18:08,308 --> 01:18:09,935 You know, what did everybody else do? 1204 01:18:10,018 --> 01:18:12,562 They buckled down, worked harder, strived and got it back. 1205 01:18:12,646 --> 01:18:13,897 That's what he shoulda done. 1206 01:18:14,773 --> 01:18:16,900 You gotta have some ethical code about yourself. 1207 01:18:17,943 --> 01:18:19,736 What makes a person American in their heart? 1208 01:18:19,820 --> 01:18:21,740 If you love this country and y'know what you got, 1209 01:18:21,780 --> 01:18:22,823 you're American at heart. 1210 01:18:24,574 --> 01:18:27,094 It pisses me off when I see people complaining about being here. 1211 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,472 It's like, "Go live where some of these other people live." 1212 01:18:29,496 --> 01:18:31,683 We're set up to where it's damn near impossible to fail. 1213 01:18:31,707 --> 01:18:35,377 If a lot of drug dealers put their effort into being legit, they'd make it, too. 1214 01:18:35,460 --> 01:18:37,587 That's just the way it is, you know, in America. 1215 01:18:37,671 --> 01:18:40,271 That's the way we're set up. Anybody can come here and make money. 1216 01:18:40,340 --> 01:18:42,551 Y'know, people do it all the time. That's the dream. 1217 01:18:46,513 --> 01:18:48,140 He'll have to answer for what he's done, 1218 01:18:48,223 --> 01:18:50,475 and I think he'll always look over his shoulder 1219 01:18:50,559 --> 01:18:52,769 for some of the other people he's done things to. 1220 01:18:56,231 --> 01:18:58,442 But he turned out being the smartest guy in the group, 1221 01:18:58,525 --> 01:19:00,861 'cause he walked away without even being arrested. 1222 01:19:21,715 --> 01:19:24,092 Considering how things worked out, 1223 01:19:24,342 --> 01:19:26,261 it made it even a better story. 1224 01:19:26,344 --> 01:19:27,429 You know what I mean? 1225 01:19:27,971 --> 01:19:28,972 I mean, you know... 1226 01:19:29,473 --> 01:19:31,475 it cost Rodney a bunch of money 1227 01:19:31,558 --> 01:19:38,106 and I'm sure Julian got a few more gray hairs, you know, worrying about it, 1228 01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:40,525 but it made it even a better story. 1229 01:19:50,035 --> 01:19:53,205 I have pear trees and blueberries and plum trees and... 1230 01:19:55,081 --> 01:19:58,335 stuff like that, so I'm just trying to feed myself as much as possible. 1231 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,509 Are you ever gonna move from here? 1232 01:20:05,592 --> 01:20:06,592 No. 1233 01:20:06,718 --> 01:20:07,803 I'm pretty good here. 1234 01:20:08,428 --> 01:20:10,555 As long as you all don't come back too often. 1235 01:20:11,431 --> 01:20:12,432 Where would I go? 1236 01:20:12,933 --> 01:20:15,936 Even with the money, I wouldn't know where to go. 1237 01:20:29,115 --> 01:20:30,242 What do you want to know? 1238 01:20:32,953 --> 01:20:34,433 I wanna hear the story. 1239 01:20:36,248 --> 01:20:37,249 Not my story. 1240 01:20:42,671 --> 01:20:43,797 Whose story is it? 1241 01:20:44,339 --> 01:20:45,924 It's not mine. 1242 01:20:49,427 --> 01:20:50,512 Not anymore. 1243 01:20:59,354 --> 01:21:01,523 I'll always wonder, man, if they dug it up. 1244 01:21:03,650 --> 01:21:08,029 Strangely enough, they never presented any evidence showing a dig site... 1245 01:21:08,655 --> 01:21:09,655 crime tape... 1246 01:21:10,448 --> 01:21:13,034 backhoe diggin', 'cause I know that's what it would have taken. 1247 01:21:13,118 --> 01:21:15,078 The cocaine was extracted at night. 1248 01:21:16,580 --> 01:21:20,000 And... we don't have professional photographers. 1249 01:21:21,251 --> 01:21:24,462 We don't have... high-tech cameras. 1250 01:21:24,838 --> 01:21:25,672 We just did... 1251 01:21:25,755 --> 01:21:28,133 The photographs that were taken of the cocaine 1252 01:21:28,216 --> 01:21:32,470 were taken while the cocaine was in the ground, with a phone. 1253 01:21:32,971 --> 01:21:35,223 You saw what you think is a picture of it. 1254 01:21:35,307 --> 01:21:37,601 You don't really know, 'cause there was 33. 1255 01:21:37,684 --> 01:21:39,477 In the picture there was, what, seven? 1256 01:21:40,145 --> 01:21:42,105 Where did the other 27 keys go? 1257 01:21:43,315 --> 01:21:44,635 Straight up, can someone tell me? 1258 01:21:45,233 --> 01:21:46,318 They just disappeared? 1259 01:21:47,527 --> 01:21:51,948 When you take what those pictures were in the document file, 1260 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:56,077 compared to the actual evidence that was in court, they don't match. 1261 01:21:56,161 --> 01:21:57,203 They don't match up. 1262 01:21:58,788 --> 01:22:03,251 For those people who believe that we never actually went to Culebra 1263 01:22:03,668 --> 01:22:05,170 and never dug up the cocaine... 1264 01:22:05,921 --> 01:22:07,464 they're 100% wrong. 1265 01:22:08,131 --> 01:22:09,507 We went to Culebra, 1266 01:22:09,591 --> 01:22:11,217 we dug up the cocaine... 1267 01:22:11,843 --> 01:22:14,471 and we admitted that cocaine into trial. 1268 01:22:15,055 --> 01:22:18,475 What would you say to someone who believed it was still in the ground... 1269 01:22:18,808 --> 01:22:21,186 and was maybe planning to go dig it up? 1270 01:22:23,563 --> 01:22:25,357 Don't do it. 1271 01:22:27,734 --> 01:22:28,818 Obviously, it's a... 1272 01:22:29,986 --> 01:22:31,237 Strongly advise against it. 1273 01:22:33,990 --> 01:22:37,285 You're saying don't go check to make sure it's still there? 1274 01:22:38,662 --> 01:22:41,915 Correct, I would not go down to Culebra or... 1275 01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:44,918 any location for that matter, absolutely not. 1276 01:22:48,546 --> 01:22:49,546 A, 1277 01:22:50,006 --> 01:22:51,424 Julian was lying. 1278 01:22:52,634 --> 01:22:56,012 B, the cops stole it. Or, C... 1279 01:22:56,513 --> 01:22:58,223 the cocaine is still in the ground. 1280 01:22:58,306 --> 01:23:00,475 Honestly, they never dug anything up. 1281 01:23:03,687 --> 01:23:05,007 I'll always wonder, man. 1282 01:23:05,397 --> 01:23:06,940 How could you not think like that? 1283 01:23:07,023 --> 01:23:10,318 If you knew where $2 million was buried in the ground, 1284 01:23:10,402 --> 01:23:11,528 would you go get it? 1285 01:23:12,737 --> 01:23:13,737 Straight up. 1286 01:23:14,322 --> 01:23:15,322 Anybody in here. 1287 01:23:16,032 --> 01:23:19,369 If you knew where $2 million was in the ground, would you go get the shit? 1288 01:23:20,745 --> 01:23:21,745 Who wouldn't? 1289 01:23:23,873 --> 01:23:25,542 It's the American dream, bro. 106892

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