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I'm on a journey across North Korea
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and after a week, it's time for me
to leave the capital, Pyongyang.
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On my way,
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I pass under the imposing
Arch of Reunification.
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Wow!
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That's impressive.
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Reunification of Korea might be the
aim for the leadership,
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but the reality is this is still
a country divided.
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North Korea.
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It's a brutal dictatorship,
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a country shrouded in mystery,
suspicion and fear.
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But after a week...
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Wow!
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I think I'm getting past
the stereotypes.
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This is a cultural where reverence
to the great leaders is all.
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And the sense of mass unity
is so strong.
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And now I've gained access to areas
of the country
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that are normally off-limits
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to understand the war
that divided Korea...
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It's interesting to hear
your side of it,
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because we were told we had won
and you believed you had won.
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To learn about its ancient past,
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and what the leadership claims it
has planned for the future.
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This street was all built in a year.
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Travelling away from cities,
I'll be meeting the people
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of rural North Korea.
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So that's your older brother?
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What do you want to do?
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Once again, I'll be accompanied
by local guides
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but maybe they're the ones who
will reveal the real North Korea.
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Criticising our leaders is like
criticising ourselves.
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A land of mountain ranges, beaches
and forests.
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I'm about to discover a very
different side of the DPRK.
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Opened in 2001,
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the 30-metre-tall
Arch of Reunification
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represents the great leader
Kim Il-sung's dream
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of reunifying North
and South Korea.
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It's also the starting point of
the road that will take me
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directly to the border.
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And so far, traffic doesn't seem
to be a problem.
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This is the Reunification Highway
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which runs about 100 miles from
Pyongyang to the Demilitarised Zone.
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Well, I suppose sadly because
reunification hasn't happened yet,
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this road is almost empty.
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There's hardly a single vehicle on
a six-lane highway.
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Miles of empty road.
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I'm heading 100 miles south to the
DMZ, the Demilitarised Zone,
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a 2.5-mile-wide border
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that splits the Korean peninsula
in two.
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With me are my two guides,
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Kyung-chul and Soo-young.
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After three hours,
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we arrive
at the Joint Security Area,
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the one place on the DMZ
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where you can cross from one side
of Korea to the other.
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Looking after me is the rather
intimidating Senior Lieutenant.
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Hwang Myong Jin.
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The Demilitarised Zone
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was created as a result of the
Korean War in the 1950s.
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Like most people in the West,
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I learned that the war started when
North Korea invaded South Korea,
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who were then defended by the UN
and America.
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But the Senior Lieutenant
sees it rather differently.
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But really, nobody won
the Korean War.
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There's just been a ceasefire
for over 60 years.
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It's interesting to hear
your side of it,
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because I was 10 years old when
the war, the armistice, ended
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the conflict in 1953, and we were
told we had won.
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And you believed you had won,
so there we are.
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Well, I would say there are wolves
on both sides, so it's a...
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Neither side won.
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Our minders are not particularly
happy with me
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questioning who won the war.
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So we walk on, to what is probably
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the most militarily and politically
sensitive area
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in the whole
of the Korean Peninsula.
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These blue UN conference rooms
are the only place
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you can walk between North
and South Korea.
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The borders marked by the raised
concrete line
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in the middle of the huts.
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I've been here once before,
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from the other side. 1996.
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22 years ago,
while filming in South Korea,
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I stood on the other side of the
border as part of a tour group.
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Escorted by American soldiers, North
Korea seemed an impenetrable land,
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but I've always wanted to see it
for myself.
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If you wish to make a crossing
into North Korea,
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please do so at that end
of the table.
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North Korea.
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And more than two decades on,
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here I am, this time crossing from
North to South.
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The atmosphere is still tense.
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So this is 22 years later.
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I remember thinking then that,
you know,
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it was like it was presented as
a blank wall there
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from which you would get no
response at all,
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and yet, I felt I wanted
to know more.
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You have to know more. You can't
just have one side of the story.
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You've got to look at the other side
of the story,
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so it's rather...
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I'm rather pleased that I'm given
the chance,
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have been given the chance, today
to see the other side as well.
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So, this time, I don't have
to go back
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and out the door as we did before
with our large group of people.
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I can come in on my own,
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I can walk over into North Korea
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and I can stay here for a bit,
and probably have my lunch here.
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And that's that. I think that's...
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I feel that's an achievement of
some kind,
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for all of us.
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Sadly, these huts represent
a massive failure of diplomacy,
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and since 1953, North Korea
has found it necessary
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to create one of the biggest armies
in the world.
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It reportedly spends 25%
of its GDP on the military
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and its notorious nuclear weapons
programme.
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None of this makes
for good small talk.
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The nuclear warheads
and nuclear missiles
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have cost your country a lot of
money to develop.
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Hopefully, there are signs that
there may be a change in relations
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between your side and America.
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Is this good news?
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Well, I hope that people recognise
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that we don't really need wars and
armies and weapons.
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We should understand each other
by meeting each other,
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talking to each other,
sharing our experience,
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rather than fighting each other.
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It's a simple message
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and I hope one day,
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more people will understand it!
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Well, it's good to meet you
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and I hope you're successful with
no more loss of life.
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After this, the guide
seemed to relax.
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If only the real peace talks could
end this well.
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A sad legacy of the Korean War
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is that most of North Korea was
destroyed by American bombing
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leaving few reminders of what was
here before.
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But just a couple of miles away
from the DMZ
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is a town that 1,000 years ago
was the capital of Korea.
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This is Kaesong.
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During the Korean War, it was part
of South Korea
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so was spared bombardment.
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Now part of the North,
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this city, and my hotel,
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make me feel like I've arrived in a
totally different century.
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That looks nice and cosy,
doesn't it? It's good.
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The buildings in the hotel
are over 100 years old,
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and as night falls, the guides and I
are entertained
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by a night of Korean traditions.
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They're now bashing the boiled rice
to make it more sticky.
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This is an old tradition, is it?
Yes.
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Go on, show me how you...
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This actually is an unusual
opportunity for us to do this.
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Show me your muscles. Yeah, you're
in good form, you're in good shape.
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Soo-young, be careful.
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You know, you're fantastic.
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There's more on your mallet
than there is on the... Wow!
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Just see how heavy it is. Yeah.
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You have to do it with this hand.
OK.
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I think that's...
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Actually, I've got a doctor's note.
Bad shoulder.
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Yes. Take a bite.
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That took great efforts
to bash this.
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Yes, actually, still got the marks
of your mouth on this.
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Kaesong has taken me back to
North Korea's past
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but, tomorrow, I'll be travelling
towards its future.
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The next morning, it's time to leave
North Korea's history behind us.
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We're driving 300 miles
to the beach town of Wonsan,
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a place which could play a large
role in the DPRK of tomorrow.
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But the roads are getting worse.
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Just about, sort of, halfway now.
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This is the... main road.
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And, yet, it's pretty rough.
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The surfaces can be quite bouncy.
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I have this slightly...
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You were nodding off there,
weren't you? No. No?
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I do. I do. I'm surprised
you can sleep on the road like this.
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Winding through the mountains
with the sea at the end of it,
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it's quite an adventure.
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I associate the sea with holidays.
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Do you have summer holidays here,
as well?
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Holidays when you go away
with your families?
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We working people have
15 days vacation
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and we can choose any day.
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I go... to...
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I usually go to the sea, beach,
with my friends.
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Do you go with your family?
I mean, like your mother and father?
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Yeah, I got married last year,
in February, so...
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There she is!
It's his wife. He can't get away.
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After a fairly tortuous four hours,
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we arrive in
the coastal town of Wonsan.
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A city at the centre
of Kim Jong-un's plans
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to transform
the North Korean economy.
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Palin. Mr Palin? Thank you.
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I'm hoping the ping-pong
won't keep me up.
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North Korea might be a country
that has closed itself
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from the outside world,
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but, paradoxically,
it's also trying to restyle itself
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as an international
beach destination.
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A few miles away from my hotel,
Kim Jong-un has ambitious plans
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to turn Wonsan into the
Costa Del Korea.
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There's a huge construction project
here in Wonsan
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to create a new resort
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and a massive amount of workers
have been brought in to the city
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and these women here
are here every morning,
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and other groups all over the city,
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to encourage the workers
to build this extraordinary place
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in extraordinarily fast time.
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I can't see it happening for HS2.
But...
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Maybe they'll learn a thing or two.
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Holidays to North Korea might
sound unlikely
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but it's already a popular
destination for the Chinese
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and international tourism is seen
as a potential future growth area.
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This huge development
of luxury beach hotels,
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conference centres,
and golf courses,
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should be completed by the end
of 2019.
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Book now to avoid disappointment.
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And visitors won't have to endure
a four-hour drive to get here.
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Because they've already built
an international airport.
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It's already to go. There's even
the first advert I've seen here.
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But there's a distinct lack
of passengers.
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Or planes.
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What makes this Marie Celeste
of airports even more bizarre
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is that all the shops and bars
are fully staffed.
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Despite there being no customers.
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I suspect they're here
for our benefit.
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Nothing has confounded my
expectations of DPRK
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as much as this gleaming new airport
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and it seems to me
it's a statement of intent.
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That DPRK is going out to the world.
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"Come here."
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In order to fill this place
they've got to have people
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from all over the world
coming to the country.
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So, it means that the country itself
will have to be seen
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by the rest of the world
as the benign and welcoming hosts,
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rather than, you know, possible...
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bad boy.
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But I wonder if international
tourists will want to travel
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to a country that is renowned for
food shortages, famine, and poverty?
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With a landscape that is
three-quarters mountain,
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North Korea has always struggled to
produce enough food for its people.
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This is the Cheongsam
cooperative farm.
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A few miles outside of Wonsan
and I'm joining farmer Kim Jang-hui
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in the fields.
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OK. Michael.
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Thank you.
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You show me. OK.
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Is it rice that you grow, mostly?
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Due to a lack of machinery and fuel,
most farm work is done by hand.
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Yeah, a lot of that. That's on top?
You're putting it on top. Yes.
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How am I doing? All right?
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Well. That's honest.
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That's honest.
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North Korea's food shortages
hit their peak
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in the mid-1990s, thanks to
a fatal combination of flooding,
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and the end of food imports from
the collapsing Soviet Union.
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Aid agencies estimate more than
a million people starved to death.
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And it's something
I'd been warned not to bring up.
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We...
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We remember hearing in the West
that you had a very bad shortage
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of food in the 1990s.
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Are things much better now? I'm
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starting to get used to
North Koreans shutting down
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when I ask uncomfortable questions.
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Food supplies might be getting
better but malnutrition
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is widely reported and though
the government may not like to
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admit it, the country still requires
tens of thousands of tonnes
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of food aid each year.
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This is your house. It's very nice.
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Very good.
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Is this your son?
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Nice to meet you. Very nice to meet
you. Very good.
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English. Yeah.
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A-ha. Thank you.
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Very nice and comfortable.
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Really?
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Yes. So they are.
So, that's your older brother? Yes.
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What do you want to do?
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Army? Well.
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Yeah.
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Jang-hui offers to make me
some food.
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So I offer my services
as an English teacher.
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And what's that? Clock.
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Clock. Brilliant.
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And... What's that?
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Hand.
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Hand. Put out your hand.
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There you are. Hand. Hand. Yeah. My
hand. Your hand. Hand. That's good.
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Yeah.
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And... Let's see.
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What's that?
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Tree. Tree.
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Hey, brilliant. That's great.
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Before I leave the farm,
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my host is very insistent
I try some local food.
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This is your kimchi. Yes.
Kimchi. Lovely. Yes. Thank you.
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Under the watchful eye
of the great leaders.
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It's very good.
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But it's very fiery!
It's like eating fire!
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Some chilli in here, I think.
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Thank you.
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I've been charmed by this
family home,
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but I can't help but think this
generous hospitality is partly
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to give me the impression that food
is in plentiful supply in the DPRK.
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It's been a busy day.
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So busy that it's easy to forget
it's my 75th birthday.
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But the guides and my crew are not
allowing me to forget.
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Wow! That is wonderful!
Thank you. Happy birthday!
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I never thought I'd make
it to my 75th!
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Let alone see a new airport and do
some planting in a field.
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Happy birthday!
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You know, however old you get,
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there's always a job
for you in the DPRK!
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Cheers. Thank you.
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That's lovely.
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The next morning, it's time to leave
Wonsan and head to a place
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that some say is the most
beautiful in North Korea.
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We're on our way to Mount Kumgang,
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and the weather's changed
completely from yesterday.
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In fact, Korean weather's a bit like
British weather - you get one
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day of sunshine,
the next day of gloom and drizzle.
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But it's rather attractive along
the coastline here.
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We're driving to the
Mount Kumgang region.
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It's just 80 miles away but,
with North Korean roads,
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it's another backbreaking
three-hour journey.
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Now we're suddenly into the
mountains.
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I say fairly suddenly - they have,
in the last few miles,
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climbed a lot.
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As we arrive in Mount Kumgang,
the rain clears,
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allowing us to begin a hike up the
Kuryong Waterfall.
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After two weeks,
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Sohyang feels much more like a
friend than an official guide.
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The colour of those boulders are so
white compared to all this.
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It's beautiful. Yeah, the rocks are
unique. They are, aren't they?
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Do you like doing this, hiking?
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Yes, I look forward to getting some
fresh air and relax and
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thinking of nothing else
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but the nature. It's good.
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For the first time since
I arrived in the DPRK,
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I feel a great sense of freedom.
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Wow, look at that!
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The Rockies of North Korea.
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Take your pick.
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Kumgangsan means Diamond Mountain.
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And even on this cloudy day,
it is stunning.
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That's nice. We'll stop down here.
Shall we? Oops!
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I'm hoping this is a good place to
have a more open conversation
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about our two countries.
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00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,719
I find your country so very
different from ours and yet,
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sometimes, very similar.
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00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:22,920
How do you get your news of what's
going on in the country?
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00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:31,239
By mass media - TVs and radios and
buying newspapers as well.
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What do they tell you about Britain,
how we live? Be honest.
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00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:43,479
You can be honest. The British -
we feel... Yeah, I mean...
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By appearance,
you look so different. Yeah.
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00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,319
I was thinking about our
way of life,
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which is really based on freedom of
speech and freedom of thought
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and people can wear what they want
and they can dress what they want
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and they can be as rude as they want
about their leaders, you know.
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00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,759
Presumably, you think that's,
um... not a good thing?
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Er...
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It's your freedom,
you can do what you want,
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00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:22,279
and we have got our own style,
and you have got your own style,
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and your citizens can do
what they want.
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00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,720
And your citizens can do what
they want too? Yes.
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00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,359
I mean, at home,
one difference between, I suppose,
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your culture and ours is that we can
be very rude about our leaders,
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00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,759
and here I feel you just have a
different way of looking at things.
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Because our leaders are very great,
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and the leaders are not
individual - they are...
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They represent us, the masses.
So we cannot criticise ourselves.
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00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,959
Can we?
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Criticising our leaders
is like offending...
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00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,880
criticising ourselves too.
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What do you think?
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Well, I think of my leaders that,
sometimes, they're good,
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sometimes, they're bad.
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00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,199
I think they make some wrong
decisions and occasionally
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00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:43,000
some right decisions and, you know,
that's the way they are.
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00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,559
Your leaders, if I may respectfully
say, are very different,
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and I absolutely respect the respect
that you have for your leaders.
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We respect our feelings.
Yeah, absolutely.
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00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,640
Our feelings, we respect. I wouldn't
want to change your feelings at all.
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00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,919
But it would just be nice to talk
about them, really.
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00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,319
I wouldn't want to change
your feelings.
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00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,239
That's what you feel,
and you're an intelligent person.
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00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,679
And that's why we are so different
from you. If you find...
387
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,479
Yeah. But you and I are not
that different.
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00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,390
I mean, we can talk about things,
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00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,319
and we have similar
intelligence about things.
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00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,439
That's good too, so I absolutely
respect the respect that you
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00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,790
have for them and the way you
feel about them, OK?
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00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,920
Yeah. I really do.
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00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,959
I know these conversations are not
easy for Sohyang,
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00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,719
but what it has shown me is how
every North Korean ties their
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identity to that of the
great leaders.
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00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:54,519
Although I've had many discussions,
and Sohyang, my guide,
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00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,319
is very chatty,
398
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,479
she's very funny and we've had
quite uninhibited discussions,
399
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,519
but, it's so difficult whenever
you get onto any subject
400
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,390
concerning the leadership.
I mean, they just stop.
401
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,399
I think it's just a very,
very difficult thing for them to
402
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,879
talk about because you don't talk
about the leaders.
403
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,479
As soon as you talk about them,
you demean them in some way.
404
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,000
I think that's what it is,
and I'm finding that quite tricky.
405
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,399
But having said all that,
we have been able to film every day,
406
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,959
we've picked up a lot of material,
and I'm a great believer that,
407
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,599
sometimes,
just seeing the way people look,
408
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,319
the way people talk,
the way they eat,
409
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,319
just little glimpses of that,
410
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,919
and the way they cultivate the
farms or whatever,
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00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,560
gives you a real insight into what's
happening in the country.
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00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,280
The next morning,
we make a speedy return to Wonsan.
413
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,960
Thankfully, this is my last
North Korean road trip.
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00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,959
After this, I hope to catch a plane
from Wonsan Airport up to.
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00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,960
Mount Paektu - the place where the
story of the Kim dynasty began.
416
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,559
And when we arrive at the ghost
terminal building,
417
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,959
things seem to have changed.
418
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,320
There are people everywhere,
and a gate.
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00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,359
Hey, a boarding card! Boarding card.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
420
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:34,560
Yeah. Bye-bye. But after checking
in, things seem to grind to a halt.
421
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,479
Well, there's been a bit of a hiccup
here because the mist you can
422
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,119
see is cloaking Wonsan Airport,
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00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,439
and the plane that's taking us up
to Mount Paektu cannot take off
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00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:55,959
from Pyongyang to come here
until this is all cleared, so we
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00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,199
don't quite know when we're going to
actually see the plane and
426
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,880
get on board. So, meanwhile,
we just hang around the airport.
427
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,519
At least it's not going to get
too crowded because this is
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the only flight in the day.
429
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,790
After our slightly awkward
conversation yesterday,
430
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,680
I'm hoping Sohyang is not
too annoyed with me.
431
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,159
The Fish Slapping Dance!
432
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,800
And maybe this might make amends.
433
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,600
This is what I used to do a long
time ago before I became...
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00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,840
a serious person.
435
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,960
That's me.
436
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,199
So is this a live fish or
a dead fish?
437
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,159
It was a dead fish, yes,
but a live human being!
438
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,359
I was alive - the fish was dead.
A real hit?
439
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,840
Yeah, yeah, hit quite hard,
it was a big pike. So funny.
440
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,119
But suddenly, the airport manager,
441
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,960
who frankly has little else to do,
has some news.
442
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,479
We are taking off, but...
But it'll be 40 minutes.
443
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,719
After hours of inertia,
there's a sudden rush of activity,
444
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,480
and the plane arrives from
Pyongyang.
445
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,199
Air Koryo,
the country's national airline,
446
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,719
has one of the oldest
fleets in the world.
447
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,799
This one was built in 1967.
448
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,999
Well, it's happening. Here is our
plane.
449
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,800
We think it's an Antonov, a Russian
plane.
450
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,239
It says 6F, but there isn't any...
451
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,199
There's no 6F.
452
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,840
So, I think I'll just sit here.
453
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,200
Finally, we're on our way.
454
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:23,790
This 50-year-old plane is taking
me 500 miles north, to Mount Paektu,
455
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,400
close to the border with China.
456
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,479
Very comfortable. I wouldn't say the
seats are functional.
457
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,479
That's what the wonderful
thing about them.
458
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,399
They've got all of these nice
surfaces,
459
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,239
and there's carpet on the floor.
460
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:42,279
Look at this sort of wallpaper,
which is, you know...
461
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,390
This is 1960s travel,
462
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,559
not 21st-century travel.
463
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,159
You do feel quite comfortable here.
464
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,200
In economy, flying to Mount Paektu
on Koryo airlines.
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00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,920
After a while, the landscape below
becomes increasingly mountainous.
466
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,760
I'm relieved when the wheels
eventually touch down.
467
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,799
As we disembark,
468
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,280
I find myself in a very
different-looking part of the country.
469
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:27,790
Well, Mount Paektu - the mountain we have
come all of this way to see - is just there.
470
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,839
Just below where the sun is setting.
471
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,390
I mean, it is not one great peak,
it's a sort of group of mountains.
472
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,399
It is out really over there,
473
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,359
just where the sun and the dark
clouds are gathering.
474
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,759
So you can't actually see it,
but...
475
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,959
you can sort of feel it.
476
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,319
But as the sun sets,
477
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,840
the clouds clear and the snowy
peaks reveal themselves.
478
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,959
Ancient Korean legend has it that
the mythical leader, Dangun,
479
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:03,479
who created Korea, was born at Mount
Paektu thousands of years ago.
480
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,480
But this area is also home to a
slightly more recent legend.
481
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,790
After we arrive at the hotel,
482
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,960
our taste buds are tantalised by
a barbecue dinner.
483
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,519
Good.
484
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,639
Basically a potato...
485
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,999
that's been posted on the fire.
It is quite dark, you can see that.
486
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,679
Well, you can't see it,
and I can't see it.
487
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,790
I could be eating a dead mouse.
488
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,320
But, actually I'm told it is a
potato.
489
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,159
Actually, it's rather good.
490
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Thank you.
491
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,559
Thank you.
492
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,599
It's hard to believe that these
rustic surroundings gave
493
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,720
birth to the ruling Kim dynasty.
494
00:37:06,340 --> 00:37:10,579
The next morning, I wake up in the
far north of the DPRK,
495
00:37:10,580 --> 00:37:16,459
and at a hotel which I'm not sure
often sees actual guests.
496
00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:20,979
But those who make it this far are
probably here to see Mount Paektu,
497
00:37:20,980 --> 00:37:25,860
the place where Kim Il-sung, the first
leader of the DPRK, made a name for himself.
498
00:37:27,140 --> 00:37:28,899
And just a few miles away,
499
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:32,300
there are the remains of the camp
where he lived with his family.
500
00:37:37,780 --> 00:37:41,500
I'm given a military guide to show
me around the rebuilt camp.
501
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:56,979
During the first half of
the 20th century,
502
00:37:56,980 --> 00:38:00,739
Korea was under hostile
occupation by Japan.
503
00:38:00,740 --> 00:38:03,219
Kim Il-sung first gained a
reputation
504
00:38:03,220 --> 00:38:07,459
as a heroic resistance fighter in
the 1930s.
505
00:38:07,460 --> 00:38:11,259
It was also here that the future
leader of the DPRK, Kim Jong-il was
506
00:38:11,260 --> 00:38:13,380
apparently born.
507
00:38:41,740 --> 00:38:43,939
A miraculous moment.
508
00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:47,779
It's a great story, but it is
widely thought that Kim Jong-il was
509
00:38:47,780 --> 00:38:50,579
actually born in communist Russia.
510
00:38:50,580 --> 00:38:54,200
How much fighting King Il-sung did
here is up for debate.
511
00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:59,859
But while the west sees the Kim
dynasty as a dictatorship,
512
00:38:59,860 --> 00:39:03,990
here they are worshipped as heroes.
513
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:07,339
Defending their country against
Japanese and American invaders.
514
00:39:07,340 --> 00:39:10,459
It is this version of history that
has helped them to hold on to
515
00:39:10,460 --> 00:39:13,380
power for 70 years.
516
00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:17,819
Well, that is a pretty sensational
view of Mount Paektu.
517
00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:21,499
This is a place where a lot
comes together.
518
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:24,990
1000s of years of Korean history,
519
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:27,339
symbolised, enshrined by Mount
Paektu itself,
520
00:39:27,340 --> 00:39:29,659
and then just behind me here,
521
00:39:29,660 --> 00:39:34,259
the monument of the founder of
the DPRK, Kim Il-sung.
522
00:39:34,260 --> 00:39:38,179
The past and the present coming
together here.
523
00:39:38,180 --> 00:39:40,590
As I look at Mount Paektu,
524
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,739
a place that has been sacred to all
Koreans for thousands of years,
525
00:39:45,740 --> 00:39:48,659
I can't help but wonder if the great
leaders and their giant
526
00:39:48,660 --> 00:39:51,620
statues will be around
quite as long.
527
00:39:53,620 --> 00:39:55,979
But it's time for me to leave.
528
00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:59,900
Our plane is ready to take us back
to the bright lights of Pyongyang.
529
00:40:01,260 --> 00:40:04,580
My time in North Korea is
drawing to a close.
530
00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:21,140
It's my last morning in Pyongyang...
531
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,939
and this city, which felt totally
alien two weeks ago,
532
00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:28,900
is now strangely familiar.
533
00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:32,939
But there's one area I've yet to
explore.
534
00:40:32,940 --> 00:40:34,979
A brand-new development of
apartments,
535
00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:38,260
shops and restaurants on the bank
of the Taedong River.
536
00:40:41,380 --> 00:40:44,819
This is the North Korea of
the 21st-century...
537
00:40:44,820 --> 00:40:47,739
And it's changing.
538
00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:50,179
This is called Mirae Street,
which means, I think,
539
00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:52,180
"future scientist street".
540
00:40:54,380 --> 00:41:00,859
And it's one of the miracles of the
DPRK, because this street,
541
00:41:00,860 --> 00:41:05,300
which contains these amazing
blocks, was all built in a year.
542
00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:12,590
It takes me about a year to get
the bedroom painted.
543
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,980
Let alone build an entire
modern city street.
544
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:23,179
But even just to build this
stuff that quickly,
545
00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:28,939
shows ambition and a sense of
national commitment.
546
00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:33,420
Commitment to making this look
like a modern city.
547
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:39,659
Since becoming leader, Kim
Jong-un has promised to revitalise
548
00:41:39,660 --> 00:41:41,299
the economy of the DPRK.
549
00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:45,139
Many people say that free-market
forces are slowly taking hold,
550
00:41:45,140 --> 00:41:48,979
as the old ideals of communism
slip away.
551
00:41:48,980 --> 00:41:50,899
Maybe in five years' time,
552
00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:55,139
the street will be full of
McDonald's and adverts for iPhones.
553
00:41:55,140 --> 00:41:59,619
If so, I'm glad to have seen it
before it becomes like
554
00:41:59,620 --> 00:42:01,420
everywhere else.
555
00:42:09,980 --> 00:42:13,539
When I first looked out over
Pyongyang, I can remember
556
00:42:13,540 --> 00:42:18,459
feeling very wary, apprehensive.
557
00:42:18,460 --> 00:42:22,260
It was all very unfamiliar and
slightly threatening.
558
00:42:23,420 --> 00:42:28,299
Now, two weeks later,
I must say I feel much more relaxed.
559
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:32,259
I feel almost part of the city.
I feel I know it much more.
560
00:42:32,260 --> 00:42:34,939
I certainly feel less threatened.
561
00:42:34,940 --> 00:42:39,299
I know that the ideology here
permeates every single aspect
562
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:45,339
of life, and I know that we've
not seen everything.
563
00:42:45,340 --> 00:42:50,459
And yet, what I have seen feels...
564
00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:52,619
well, it doesn't feel grim.
565
00:42:52,620 --> 00:42:54,219
It doesn't feel brutal,
566
00:42:54,220 --> 00:42:56,140
as some would have us think.
567
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:01,819
It is actually, I would say,
not an unhappy place.
568
00:43:01,820 --> 00:43:05,139
But it feels to me that this
country is at a crossroads.
569
00:43:05,140 --> 00:43:08,179
On the one hand, it wants to open
up to the wider world,
570
00:43:08,180 --> 00:43:10,939
to expand culturally and
economically.
571
00:43:10,940 --> 00:43:12,539
But on the other,
572
00:43:12,540 --> 00:43:15,259
the system here seems intent on
keeping the population under
573
00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:18,299
the type of
authoritarian rule that can
574
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:21,540
only persist in a closed and
repressive society.
575
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:25,819
At some point in the near future,
576
00:43:25,820 --> 00:43:30,660
I feel the DPRK will have to
decide which way it wants to go.
577
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:35,990
Thank you. Thank you very much.
578
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:38,659
Thank you for everything. Yes. Yes.
I'm sure you will be a film star.
579
00:43:38,660 --> 00:43:40,819
And you have been brilliant.
580
00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:42,419
My lovely companion.
581
00:43:42,420 --> 00:43:45,139
I wish you all the best.
Thank you for looking after me.
582
00:43:45,140 --> 00:43:48,459
You've made an old man very happy.
583
00:43:48,460 --> 00:43:50,739
Anyway... lovely. Hope to see
you again. See you again.
584
00:43:50,740 --> 00:43:53,990
Come to London. We will.
585
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:56,979
I would
love to show the guides my world,
586
00:43:56,980 --> 00:44:01,340
to see what they would make of it
all. For now, that's not possible.
587
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:06,190
But events are moving fast and I
hope positive change is
588
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,660
coming to the people of North Korea.
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