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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,530 Becoming a mother was my first concern. 2 00:00:33,730 --> 00:00:36,130 How she'd be born didn't really matter. 3 00:00:36,330 --> 00:00:38,020 I wanted her to be healthy. 4 00:00:38,420 --> 00:00:41,190 I prepared myself for a natural birth 5 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,040 doing yoga and talking to people who had already had a normal birth. 6 00:00:46,130 --> 00:00:51,226 But today I'm aware I didn't have any knowledge 7 00:00:51,310 --> 00:00:53,376 of the physiology of natural birth, 8 00:00:53,460 --> 00:00:54,696 its importance for the baby and the mother. 9 00:00:54,780 --> 00:00:56,350 MOTHER AND BIOLOGIST 10 00:00:56,670 --> 00:00:57,800 I didn't care about it. 11 00:00:57,890 --> 00:01:02,610 What I cared about was my anxiety and the doctor's opinion, 12 00:01:02,710 --> 00:01:06,686 who cared more about his time, that was more valuable 13 00:01:06,770 --> 00:01:09,240 than my daughter's life. 14 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,540 When I went to the doctor, with the report of a cord loop, 15 00:01:17,940 --> 00:01:21,190 he said: "She has an umbilical cord loop around her neck 16 00:01:21,330 --> 00:01:23,990 and that may kill your baby." 17 00:01:24,090 --> 00:01:26,450 When a mother hears that, 18 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,776 if she isn't prepared, 19 00:01:28,860 --> 00:01:30,776 and has never heard about it, 20 00:01:30,860 --> 00:01:33,566 she says to the doctor: "What do I do?" 21 00:01:33,650 --> 00:01:36,950 and he said: "Let's schedule a C-section to prevent it." 22 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,030 I was 38 weeks and two days pregnant 23 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,620 and it was scheduled for the next day. 24 00:01:47,110 --> 00:01:51,336 Everything went just fine, my recovery was nice, 25 00:01:51,420 --> 00:01:53,080 the baby's APGAR was good. 26 00:01:53,170 --> 00:01:55,620 So, to me, it had been a perfect delivery. 27 00:01:55,710 --> 00:01:57,030 My daughter was fine. 28 00:01:58,110 --> 00:02:00,660 When I got pregnant with my second daughter, 29 00:02:00,750 --> 00:02:02,386 she was three years old, 30 00:02:02,470 --> 00:02:06,530 I showed what it was like to have a baby in the belly and to be born. 31 00:02:06,620 --> 00:02:10,470 And I played the video from the day she was born. 32 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:31,016 And we were both shocked, though I had seen the video before. 33 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:34,246 But that moment touched me because she kept asking: 34 00:02:34,330 --> 00:02:38,630 "Mom, why am I alone? I was born and there's nobody with me." 35 00:02:44,990 --> 00:02:47,850 She was, as she said it herself, abandoned. 36 00:02:48,580 --> 00:02:51,816 She didn't use these words, but it was something like: 37 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:56,236 "You left me alone, mom. Why? I was in your belly and now I'm alone. 38 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,840 Where are you, mom? Where's dad?" 39 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,400 I saw my daughter come out of me, the way she was taken out, 40 00:03:09,490 --> 00:03:12,336 being shown very quickly to me by a pediatrician 41 00:03:12,420 --> 00:03:15,280 who didn't let her come close to me. 42 00:03:18,410 --> 00:03:20,940 I asked them to untie me, but they didn't. 43 00:03:24,290 --> 00:03:28,580 After watching the video I could see the way they had treated her. 44 00:03:29,090 --> 00:03:34,710 Going through several procedures that I consider highly unnecessary. 45 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,776 It was cold, there was a bright light in her eyes. 46 00:03:39,860 --> 00:03:40,950 She was crying. 47 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,810 Besides being brutally taken out, 48 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:48,650 she had to endure all that in her first minute. 49 00:03:55,100 --> 00:03:58,156 Then, I made up my mind: 50 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,270 "My next daughter will be born the most natural way possible. 51 00:04:04,670 --> 00:04:07,010 This is not going to happen again." 52 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:11,730 And I sought for information 53 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,400 to know why, 54 00:04:14,770 --> 00:04:19,850 and what I could do, so that my child could be born well, 55 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,890 and I found it. 56 00:04:38,660 --> 00:04:42,880 BIRTH REBORN 57 00:04:43,650 --> 00:04:48,460 A FILM BY ERICA DE PAULA AND EDUARDO CHAUVET 58 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,700 We are lucky to be dealing with an issue 59 00:04:53,790 --> 00:04:55,590 that has to do with everyone. 60 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,986 Everyone was born 61 00:04:57,070 --> 00:05:00,716 and most people'll desire to have a child. 62 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,130 So this subject is related to the whole society. 63 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,350 DOCTOR AND RESEARCHER 64 00:05:57,940 --> 00:06:02,076 There are stories that child births in pre-agricultural civilizations 65 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,860 were much simpler and faster. 66 00:06:05,060 --> 00:06:07,300 The way childbirth is assisted 67 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,956 in contemporary industrialized societies 68 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,996 is a quite new event 69 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,830 if we take into consideration the time we have been on Earth. 70 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:35,000 Childbirth was something absolutely of women among women. 71 00:06:35,090 --> 00:06:38,066 From that time on, we've had several changes. 72 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:41,126 We've had great technological breakthroughs, 73 00:06:41,210 --> 00:06:44,756 the entrance of the doctor in the childbirth scenario 74 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:48,170 and, of course, when we place women inside a hospital, 75 00:06:48,260 --> 00:06:50,720 two other things come historically: 76 00:06:50,810 --> 00:06:53,750 horizontal delivery and episiotomy. 77 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:54,850 EPISIOTOMY 78 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:11,076 When men got into the sacred and hidden universe of birth 79 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,036 ended up bringing along, with the lights of reasoning, 80 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,806 a shift in the models and paradigms of childbirth care. 81 00:07:19,890 --> 00:07:23,416 Not long ago, the majority of babies were delivered at home, 82 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:26,476 attended by people from the community and by women. 83 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:27,976 Of course, back then… 84 00:07:28,060 --> 00:07:29,636 OBSTETRIC NURSE 85 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,036 …if there was a problem, mother and baby'd die. 86 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,716 But not anymore, because we can combine what science has acquired 87 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,810 and what popular knowledge brings us. 88 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:42,776 Women started going to a place specifically built to assist sick people… 89 00:07:42,860 --> 00:07:44,446 SURGERY CENTER 90 00:07:44,530 --> 00:07:47,120 …such as a hospital, only 40 to 50 years ago. 91 00:07:47,210 --> 00:07:49,706 Therefore, it's very violent the transformation… 92 00:07:49,790 --> 00:07:51,476 OBSTETRICIAN 93 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,646 …from an affectionate family event 94 00:07:54,730 --> 00:07:58,950 with people known to the woman, where she exerted a certain control, 95 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,120 to an absolutely strange, inhospitable place, 96 00:08:02,210 --> 00:08:05,436 with complete strangers to her everyday life 97 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,696 and full of machines. 98 00:08:06,780 --> 00:08:11,046 Thus, quite a scary place for most women. 99 00:08:11,130 --> 00:08:15,016 It is no wonder that many women, upon arrival to the hospital, 100 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:19,500 start presenting problems, which will subsequently be treated 101 00:08:19,590 --> 00:08:22,570 with more technology added by the doctors. 102 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,059 CURRENT REALITY 103 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:37,880 ANTHROPOLOGIST 104 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,546 When women migrated to the hospitals to have their children, 105 00:09:09,630 --> 00:09:13,496 they lost their power over birth to the doctors. 106 00:09:13,580 --> 00:09:18,416 Women ended up settling to rigid patterns of the medical system 107 00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:23,980 of delivering within a number of hours, and behaving in a standardized way. 108 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,446 Oxytocin, endorphin, prolactin and even adrenalin 109 00:09:48,530 --> 00:09:51,846 are fundamental to the bonding phenomenon 110 00:09:51,930 --> 00:09:53,676 between the mother and child. 111 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,296 These are extremely important hormones 112 00:09:56,380 --> 00:09:59,090 that were molded in the birth process 113 00:09:59,180 --> 00:10:00,910 in a very subtle way. 114 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:30,210 VITAMIN C 115 00:10:32,710 --> 00:10:35,180 OXYTOCIN 116 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,386 We can't give birth like our mothers used to. 117 00:11:13,470 --> 00:11:16,860 My mother and my grandmother had three normal deliveries. 118 00:11:16,950 --> 00:11:18,326 Anyway, we ask ourselves… 119 00:11:18,410 --> 00:11:19,576 MOTHER AND PUBLIC MANAGER 120 00:11:19,660 --> 00:11:22,410 …what is happening with our bodies, with our history? 121 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:26,130 That we can't do anymore what should be normal, 122 00:11:26,220 --> 00:11:29,060 what other mammals, other animals do. 123 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,690 The childbirth care model in Brazil, 124 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,150 highly technology-oriented, 125 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,430 has slowly created the culture of cesareans 126 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,436 as the most comfortable way of birth… 127 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,726 MANAGER OF THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH 128 00:11:52,810 --> 00:11:56,310 …perhaps more suitable to this consumer society. 129 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,560 The world today is prone to put you into an OR for a C-section. 130 00:12:00,710 --> 00:12:01,706 That's a fact. 131 00:12:01,790 --> 00:12:05,360 Today, childbirth in Brazil has become a surgical procedure 132 00:12:05,450 --> 00:12:07,450 instead of a physiological event. 133 00:12:07,580 --> 00:12:09,846 Everyone sees delivery as a surgery… 134 00:12:09,930 --> 00:12:10,966 OBSTETRICIAN 135 00:12:11,050 --> 00:12:12,876 …the doctor, the patient, the hospital. 136 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,606 The Brazilian health system is ineffective, right? 137 00:12:16,690 --> 00:12:21,616 Even private health insurance can't assist the way it should. 138 00:12:21,700 --> 00:12:25,680 In regard to pregnant patients, it is increasingly true. 139 00:12:25,770 --> 00:12:30,240 Nowadays, with prenatal appointments lasting 15 minutes, 140 00:12:30,330 --> 00:12:32,450 you can't even clarify your doubts. 141 00:12:32,540 --> 00:12:34,906 In 15 minutes you lie down, 142 00:12:34,990 --> 00:12:38,236 get your blood pressure checked and listen to your baby. 143 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:43,180 But how can a doctor afford to keep his office open 144 00:12:43,270 --> 00:12:45,310 with a 15-dollar fee? 145 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:56,996 We are all taxpayers and we are paying… 146 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,266 EPIDEMIOLOGIST 147 00:12:58,350 --> 00:13:03,176 …for an assistance which is either inappropriate 148 00:13:03,260 --> 00:13:07,390 or endangers the lives of women and babies. 149 00:13:18,130 --> 00:13:24,256 Nowadays, our cesarean rate, to our sorrow, has exceeded 50%. 150 00:13:24,340 --> 00:13:28,640 We have a 52% cesarean rate in Brazil. 151 00:13:52,940 --> 00:13:56,046 There is a cultural and economical logic to this. 152 00:13:56,130 --> 00:13:58,196 There's a reason for that. 153 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:03,176 The patient has this thinking that a C-section is more controlled, 154 00:14:03,260 --> 00:14:05,976 less risky, that it does not carry any risks, 155 00:14:06,060 --> 00:14:07,886 that it will save the baby. 156 00:14:07,970 --> 00:14:11,600 The doctor, despite having learned that vaginal birth is safe, 157 00:14:11,690 --> 00:14:13,550 good for the mother and baby, 158 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,730 ends up believing in some of this false truth 159 00:14:16,820 --> 00:14:18,700 that a C-section is safer. 160 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,220 THE INDUSTRY OF BIRTH 161 00:14:26,710 --> 00:14:30,676 I was very young. I was 22, 23 years old. 162 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:36,370 And I wasn't aware of this world of C-sections. 163 00:14:36,460 --> 00:14:38,506 I thought it was possible to have a normal birth. 164 00:14:38,590 --> 00:14:40,056 MOTHER AND NUTRITIONIST 165 00:14:40,140 --> 00:14:43,786 The doctor led me to believe that until the end of pregnancy. 166 00:14:43,870 --> 00:14:47,770 "You'll have a normal birth, don't worry, everything is OK." 167 00:14:48,250 --> 00:14:52,586 And suddenly she said that Pedro had the cord around his neck. 168 00:14:52,670 --> 00:14:56,790 And that Pedro, therefore, had to be born via C-section. 169 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,530 I was very young. I truly believed her, 170 00:15:00,620 --> 00:15:04,276 but there was something in my unconscious 171 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,140 telling me I was wrong, that it wasn't that way. 172 00:15:07,230 --> 00:15:12,176 But who would switch doctors at 38-39 weeks? 173 00:15:12,260 --> 00:15:15,546 What if a problem occurs? And the whole family saying: 174 00:15:15,630 --> 00:15:19,250 "You must give birth now." And I had the C-section. 175 00:15:19,340 --> 00:15:24,060 Sure, it's business! For the doctor, it's much better to perform a C-section. 176 00:15:24,150 --> 00:15:25,556 FATHER AND ACTOR 177 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,700 Of course there are exceptions, there are people with more common sense 178 00:15:30,790 --> 00:15:33,006 to allow a normal birth. 179 00:15:33,090 --> 00:15:35,290 But most of them push for a C-section. 180 00:15:43,630 --> 00:15:46,056 The time spent attending birth 181 00:15:46,140 --> 00:15:48,666 doesn't fit the time schedule of many doctors. 182 00:15:48,750 --> 00:15:53,416 The amount paid isn't worth canceling your private office appointments. 183 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:56,166 You earn more there than attending one birth. 184 00:15:56,250 --> 00:15:59,436 And we can't hide reality. 185 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,866 Many C-sections are done due to doctor's convenience. 186 00:16:02,950 --> 00:16:06,266 We see a lot more NICU admissions the day before major holidays… 187 00:16:06,350 --> 00:16:08,326 PEDIATRICIAN 188 00:16:08,410 --> 00:16:12,610 …because on those dates C-sections are performed more frequently. 189 00:16:12,970 --> 00:16:17,726 Obviously doctors want to spend the holiday without the risk 190 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:20,300 of leaving home to attend a birth. 191 00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:22,680 But that's part of our choice. 192 00:16:23,140 --> 00:16:25,390 We chose this specialty. 193 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,346 When interviewed, postpartum women often believe… 194 00:16:30,430 --> 00:16:31,776 OBSTETRICIAN 195 00:16:31,860 --> 00:16:35,540 …there was a medical indication for their C-sections. 196 00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:38,230 When we interview doctors, 197 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:44,446 they blame their C-sections on the women's decision. 198 00:16:44,530 --> 00:16:47,186 They are sometimes in their first pregnancy 199 00:16:47,270 --> 00:16:50,726 and get slaughtered in a cesarean, 200 00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:53,250 without the slightest mercy or pity. 201 00:17:07,490 --> 00:17:10,990 First I had no intention of doing a normal birth. 202 00:17:11,210 --> 00:17:15,175 I was afraid, but I started to find that normal birth was the best. 203 00:17:15,260 --> 00:17:16,675 MOTHER AND ACCOUNTANT 204 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,786 I did a lot of research on the internet, talked to friends. 205 00:17:19,869 --> 00:17:23,500 Then, friends referred me to their doctors. 206 00:17:23,660 --> 00:17:26,965 But most of them wanted me to have a C-section. 207 00:17:27,050 --> 00:17:29,536 They tried to persuade me into a C-section. 208 00:17:29,620 --> 00:17:34,526 I would go and say: "Doc, tell me about natural childbirth." 209 00:17:34,610 --> 00:17:35,900 And he said: 210 00:17:36,030 --> 00:17:40,190 "No, Amanda, normal delivery? That doesn't exist anymore." 211 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:45,390 He said nowadays C-sections are quick, you go home, recover, 212 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,310 and there is no problem, that was one doctor. 213 00:17:48,620 --> 00:17:52,020 I still had three appointments with him, 214 00:17:52,110 --> 00:17:53,730 but he always scared me 215 00:17:53,820 --> 00:17:58,140 and my desire for a normal birth increased. 216 00:18:44,020 --> 00:18:47,666 Now, think from the hospital perspective. What do you prefer? 217 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:50,000 A patient, a pregnant woman, 218 00:18:50,090 --> 00:18:53,000 who will deliver a baby without spending anything. 219 00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:55,386 She will just pay for her hospital stay. 220 00:18:55,470 --> 00:18:57,626 In a natural birth what do you spend? 221 00:18:57,710 --> 00:19:00,270 Compress, gauze, nothing else. 222 00:19:00,420 --> 00:19:05,476 For the hospital it is more interesting to get that scheduled patient. 223 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,456 They can count how many patients there will be during that day. 224 00:19:09,540 --> 00:19:14,796 The OR moves more smoothly and neatly. 225 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,596 When a laboring woman arrives, the party is over, isn't it? 226 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,556 For 12 hours that room cannot be used 227 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,530 because there's a woman who wants to give birth. 228 00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:44,196 It is a multifactorial problem, there isn't a character… 229 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,546 OBSTETRIC 230 00:19:45,630 --> 00:19:48,256 …who's the big bad wolf of the story. 231 00:19:48,340 --> 00:19:52,080 There are interests that intertwine. 232 00:19:52,570 --> 00:19:56,030 But we hear a lot that women ask for C-sections, 233 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:58,040 and there are two aspects: 234 00:19:58,140 --> 00:20:03,520 First, if a woman thinks her option is that horrendous birth, 235 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,820 where she is abandoned and has no privacy, 236 00:20:07,910 --> 00:20:11,836 there's cutting and pain, she asks for a cesarean. 237 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,476 Secondly, if the woman who asks for the C-section exists. 238 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,120 She's minority in Brazil. 239 00:20:17,210 --> 00:20:19,276 There is research on that. 240 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:25,460 Potter's works, in collaboration with Professor Faundes, have shown 241 00:20:25,610 --> 00:20:30,796 that only 20% of women in early pregnancy preferred C-section. 242 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,570 Most women get pregnant and say: "I want a normal birth". 243 00:20:34,660 --> 00:20:38,490 As prenatal care continues, she changes her mind. 244 00:20:38,580 --> 00:20:43,440 And sometimes things are very subtle, like: "What a big baby!" 245 00:20:43,850 --> 00:20:47,490 "Right? Will it pass?" 246 00:20:48,050 --> 00:20:49,996 "It's hard, such a big baby." 247 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,890 And the woman loses confidence. 248 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:57,900 "Oh, you want a normal birth! Congratulations, because it hurts a lot!" 249 00:20:57,990 --> 00:21:01,400 "It's very difficult, you are brave." 250 00:21:01,490 --> 00:21:04,040 That kind of subliminal message 251 00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:07,316 that normal birth is difficult, painful, 252 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:12,046 a super difficult challenge to overcome, undermines her confidence. 253 00:21:12,130 --> 00:21:14,900 She then says: "It's true, am I ready for that?" 254 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:17,386 FETAL EVALUATION 255 00:21:17,470 --> 00:21:21,326 Three weeks before my due date, he said that 256 00:21:21,410 --> 00:21:24,660 though she was well-positioned, she was too large. 257 00:21:24,750 --> 00:21:28,130 He prescribed an ultrasound, and referred me to a doctor. 258 00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:31,470 We saw my baby moving. Everything was fine. 259 00:21:31,580 --> 00:21:33,876 Then we saw a frozen image 260 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,066 with a baby with the cord around his neck. 261 00:21:36,150 --> 00:21:38,706 We realized it wasn't our daughter. 262 00:21:38,790 --> 00:21:42,166 We said something to the doctor, showing our distrust… 263 00:21:42,250 --> 00:21:43,316 MOTHER AND TEACHER 264 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,800 …and he changed the subject. 265 00:21:44,890 --> 00:21:49,960 We went to another clinic, to a doctor we trusted, 266 00:21:50,050 --> 00:21:53,130 who attended my first birth, my first pregnancy. 267 00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:57,710 I did an ultrasound 30 minutes later and didn't see a cord around her neck. 268 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:01,176 That day I returned to my doctor's office 269 00:22:01,260 --> 00:22:05,706 and showed him the second ultrasound without the cord around her neck. 270 00:22:05,790 --> 00:22:08,490 "You didn't go to the doctor I recommended?" 271 00:22:08,580 --> 00:22:11,766 I said: "No, went to this doctor, whom I trust." 272 00:22:11,850 --> 00:22:15,286 He said: "The thing is your baby is big. 273 00:22:15,370 --> 00:22:18,746 It can't be a normal birth. You'll need a C-section." 274 00:22:18,830 --> 00:22:22,576 I said: "Doctor, can't I wait, you know, for contractions, 275 00:22:22,660 --> 00:22:25,326 any sign that she is ready to be born?" 276 00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:28,880 He said: "No, we can schedule. I have a free day, Wednesday, 277 00:22:28,970 --> 00:22:31,196 if you schedule a C-section, I'll do it. 278 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,710 Otherwise, you can find another doctor". 279 00:22:37,630 --> 00:22:40,790 For surgeons, it's the scalpel curse. 280 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,950 It is a very easy solution. 281 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,510 You must have philosophical principles 282 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,776 and very strong convictions 283 00:22:47,860 --> 00:22:51,130 not to give in to this temptation. 284 00:22:57,390 --> 00:22:59,326 Some private health insurances 285 00:22:59,410 --> 00:23:02,770 pay only $60 for a doctor to attend a birth. 286 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,110 Sixty dollars! 287 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,340 It's a great responsibility, you have to be available, 288 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:12,030 since she enters the ninth month, you have to be available 289 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:13,666 from dusk till dawn. 290 00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:18,090 I guess it's the only specialty where you have two lives in your hands. 291 00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:23,110 The hospital offers no kind of support 292 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,900 no physical structure. 293 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,900 Comes a point when you get tired. 294 00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:31,126 Many doctors start doing vaginal births. 295 00:23:31,210 --> 00:23:34,776 At first they fight but get lost as time goes by. 296 00:23:34,860 --> 00:23:37,566 If you don't have very strong convictions, 297 00:23:37,650 --> 00:23:42,200 that creates a dissatisfaction, and you say: "I won't do it anymore". 298 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:48,220 MYTHS 299 00:23:48,670 --> 00:23:51,820 Many myths have been created about the risks. 300 00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:55,840 As a protective mother, you want to minimize them. 301 00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:59,226 "Do you want bigger risks for your baby?" 302 00:23:59,310 --> 00:24:02,836 So, if you want to talk about risks, stop, study, read. 303 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,780 Understand what are in fact the risks. 304 00:24:06,010 --> 00:24:08,050 Prenatal myths are numerous. 305 00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:11,260 We find them in beauty salon chats. 306 00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:13,356 "My neighbor's cousin." 307 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,270 "She tried a vaginal birth and something horrible happened." 308 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:20,820 At the doctor's, the myths we find are: 309 00:24:20,910 --> 00:24:25,026 the baby is big and won't pass, the woman is old, she can't give birth, 310 00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:28,450 and by old I mean she is over 30, 35. 311 00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:30,796 Or she is too young to give birth, 312 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,150 too fat or too skinny to give birth, 313 00:24:34,540 --> 00:24:38,300 sedentary, or her vagina will become loose. 314 00:24:38,430 --> 00:24:42,620 That it hurts a lot, that if you have high blood pressure 315 00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:45,136 or diabetes you can't give birth. 316 00:24:45,220 --> 00:24:47,746 Cord around the neck, baby is too big, 317 00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:52,326 baby is too small, advanced placenta maturity, 318 00:24:52,410 --> 00:24:56,520 too much or little liquid, are all fake indications. 319 00:24:56,890 --> 00:25:01,446 They are ghostly entities created 320 00:25:01,530 --> 00:25:03,360 as cesarean indications. 321 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,950 One of the greatest excuses is 322 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,866 the cord wrapped around the baby's neck. 323 00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:26,280 It's absolutely physiological and around 40% of the babies 324 00:25:26,580 --> 00:25:29,780 are born with a loop of cord around their necks. 325 00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:32,706 But there's the "killing cord" myth. 326 00:25:32,790 --> 00:25:36,016 There isn't any chance of a baby being strangled 327 00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:37,880 by his umbilical cord. 328 00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:42,310 We also hear a lot that the woman didn't go into labor. 329 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,440 That's a lie because all women go into labor. 330 00:25:47,530 --> 00:25:52,420 But if we operate before she does then clearly she won't go into labor. 331 00:25:52,540 --> 00:25:56,870 But if we wait until 42 weeks, 332 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,930 which is the duration of a pregnancy, women will go into labor. 333 00:26:01,140 --> 00:26:05,446 We hear a lot about lack of dilation, 334 00:26:05,530 --> 00:26:07,956 but this is extremely rare. 335 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,250 Most cases referred to as lack of dilation, 336 00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:14,916 there wasn't any respect for its physiology. 337 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,876 Women were admitted to the hospital too early, 338 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,120 not in active labor. 339 00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:24,870 Or even without the labor having started. 340 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,656 It takes patience and waiting, 341 00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:30,540 as dilation won't happen as if by magic. 342 00:27:59,770 --> 00:28:02,906 I remember asking: "ls everything all right with him?" 343 00:28:02,990 --> 00:28:06,210 I told her that once born, I wanted him to come to me. 344 00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:08,420 I wasn't happy with that C-section. 345 00:28:09,140 --> 00:28:12,376 "Look, when he is born, please, leave him with me." 346 00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:15,240 And I asked if he was OK and no one answered. 347 00:28:15,690 --> 00:28:20,166 And I was worried because Pedro went somewhere with the pediatrician. 348 00:28:20,250 --> 00:28:21,660 "Is he OK?" 349 00:28:21,770 --> 00:28:23,600 Then she came to me and said: 350 00:28:23,770 --> 00:28:27,470 "Andrea, everything's fine with your son, relax!" 351 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:32,576 And I said: "OK, everything is fine, but I want him here with me." 352 00:28:32,660 --> 00:28:37,770 I felt so fragile with that rude answer she gave me. 353 00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:43,580 And she was so insensitive in such an important moment. 354 00:28:43,670 --> 00:28:48,116 She didn't respect that. For her, it's just one more. 355 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,920 It's indifferent. Just another one being born. 356 00:28:52,140 --> 00:28:55,400 CESAREAN SURGERY 357 00:28:56,060 --> 00:28:59,956 Cesarean is a wonderful surgery that saves lives every day 358 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,746 but it is not to be performed in every patient 359 00:29:02,830 --> 00:29:05,990 in an unnecessary way, without labor. 360 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,776 When it isn't medically indicated, it puts woman and baby at risk 361 00:29:10,860 --> 00:29:14,846 three times more than in a normal delivery. 362 00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:19,190 For the baby, the risk of an unnecessary cesarean surgery 363 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,616 is the risk of being born prematurely. 364 00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:25,146 Ultrasound is important, for instance, 365 00:29:25,230 --> 00:29:29,300 to estimate gestational age until 13 weeks. 366 00:29:29,390 --> 00:29:31,860 It is more accurate in this period. 367 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,096 Near the end of pregnancy, 368 00:29:34,180 --> 00:29:37,226 it can miscalculate in plus or minus two weeks. 369 00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:43,120 Some studies point that this error is usually for less. 370 00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:49,356 So, we think the baby is 37 or 38 weeks 371 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,166 when in reality she is two weeks younger. 372 00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:57,306 Nowadays this is what we call a hidden epidemic 373 00:29:57,390 --> 00:30:01,916 which happens in higher social classes 374 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,846 where the way to be born is through a C-section. 375 00:30:07,930 --> 00:30:13,540 And a schedule accommodated C-section. 376 00:30:13,630 --> 00:30:17,216 The consequence is premature babies, 377 00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:22,400 that need to go to the NICU 378 00:30:22,490 --> 00:30:25,230 with all the repercussion of being premature, 379 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,536 of not being birth-ready and forced to be born. 380 00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:36,740 Among lay public the idea is that the C-section saved that baby. 381 00:30:36,830 --> 00:30:39,536 If the baby was born like that by C-section, 382 00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:43,200 imagine if we had waited three weeks for a normal birth! 383 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,506 If there is one really radical thing, that's birth. 384 00:30:50,590 --> 00:30:55,600 It's true, clamping the cord, abstracting from all symbolism, 385 00:30:55,690 --> 00:30:59,696 You are attached to a placenta, which is attached to your mother, 386 00:30:59,780 --> 00:31:03,666 all functioning biologically as one. 387 00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:07,896 And in one second you say: "deal with it", 388 00:31:07,980 --> 00:31:10,546 this is deeply radical, 389 00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:13,880 and that's what happens in a scheduled C-section. 390 00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:29,170 World Health Organization studies 391 00:31:29,490 --> 00:31:33,200 show that C-sections without a defined clinical indication 392 00:31:33,290 --> 00:31:37,786 may cause respiratory complications for the newborn, 393 00:31:37,870 --> 00:31:41,130 increasing his chance of being admitted 394 00:31:41,220 --> 00:31:45,430 into the neonatal ICU and increasing neonatal mortality. 395 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,180 For the mother there's a higher risk of hemorrhage and infections, 396 00:31:50,270 --> 00:31:54,316 let alone long-term complications. 397 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,326 Then one has to look at greater populations, 398 00:31:57,410 --> 00:32:00,480 not ten births but a thousand at least. 399 00:32:00,770 --> 00:32:04,396 And then we will identify that in elective C-sections, 400 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200 there are more more infections, more weaning, 401 00:32:07,290 --> 00:32:10,220 a more difficult mother-baby bonding. 402 00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:15,470 It's evident that if he's born this way, the baby isn't given to his mother, 403 00:32:15,620 --> 00:32:18,396 she is not allowed to nurse in the OR. 404 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,366 No one waits for the birth to end before all other procedures are done, 405 00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:26,030 it's like an assembly line. 406 00:32:32,010 --> 00:32:35,346 What I want to know is: did we schedule with the baby 407 00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:39,540 to be born Friday 4 PM, and if we did, 408 00:32:39,630 --> 00:32:42,430 did he answer that he is ready to come? 409 00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:50,530 This is an impossible agreement! That doesn't exist. 410 00:33:21,530 --> 00:33:24,946 When I switched doctors, I had three appointments with him 411 00:33:25,030 --> 00:33:27,490 and I was being put on the backburner. 412 00:33:27,580 --> 00:33:30,146 I always told him I wanted a normal birth 413 00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:36,040 and in one of the visits I was already eight months pregnant, 414 00:33:36,130 --> 00:33:41,560 and he said: "Look, Amanda, I can't deliver your baby." 415 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:45,276 Outraged, I started looking for another doctor, 416 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,226 but I was eight months pregnant, 417 00:33:47,310 --> 00:33:51,036 I need to have my baby, and to have her normally. 418 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,910 One day I felt sick and went to a hospital, to the ER. 419 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,556 And I met this doctor, told him my story, 420 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,210 that I wanted a normal birth, and he said: 421 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:05,860 "Amanda, you have a good pelvis, we can deliver your baby". 422 00:34:05,950 --> 00:34:11,196 So I had my last prenatal visits with this doctor 423 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,159 and waited for the day to come. 424 00:34:15,250 --> 00:34:19,969 ESSENTIAL FEMALE DEFECTIVENESS 425 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,505 Human birth is an event that has been molded over 426 00:34:23,590 --> 00:34:28,580 five to seven million years of experimentation. 427 00:34:29,170 --> 00:34:32,929 In spite of those million years of improvement 428 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,966 in the contemporary obstetric model, it was fundamental 429 00:34:38,050 --> 00:34:42,735 the idea that women are essentially incompetent, 430 00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:46,826 and unable to handle the birth process by themselves. 431 00:34:46,909 --> 00:34:51,406 We were trained to believe that female's bodies are defective, 432 00:34:51,489 --> 00:34:56,760 that a woman needs interventions to give birth. 433 00:34:56,850 --> 00:35:00,760 That our intervention is always necessary. 434 00:35:00,850 --> 00:35:05,306 Women believe that they're unable to give birth to their children 435 00:35:05,390 --> 00:35:08,500 in a more natural and physiological way 436 00:35:08,590 --> 00:35:13,280 because culture contaminates their self-esteem. 437 00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:17,750 And then, what should've essentially been an empowering process 438 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,966 by giving birth to their children 439 00:35:21,050 --> 00:35:26,570 became a process that fundamentally strengthens doctors and corporations. 440 00:35:26,850 --> 00:35:31,320 We have a lot to learn from countryside women 441 00:35:31,410 --> 00:35:33,616 because they are in close contact 442 00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:37,676 with their own being and with nature. 443 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,410 When they get pregnant, they do not doubt whether or not they can birth, 444 00:35:42,980 --> 00:35:45,516 their brain doesn't get in the way. 445 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,820 The mind of the modern woman does get in the way, 446 00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:55,540 We need to clear ourselves from the mental contamination, 447 00:35:55,630 --> 00:35:57,556 this social idea that the woman will not give birth… 448 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,196 MIDWIFE AND ANTHROPOLOGIST 449 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,696 …that modern woman cannot birth. 450 00:36:01,780 --> 00:36:03,236 This is not true. 451 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,870 We women know how to give birth! And we enjoy giving birth. 452 00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:52,416 I've always been skinny, my hips are narrow. 453 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,846 I used to think I had some defect, 454 00:36:54,930 --> 00:36:59,020 that I'd never be able to give birth until I got pregnant. 455 00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:02,770 I ended up switching OB doctors, because I heard stories… 456 00:37:02,860 --> 00:37:04,136 MOTHER AND GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE 457 00:37:04,220 --> 00:37:08,680 …that my first doctor'd make up excuses to make C-sections. 458 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,230 After being able to give birth normally 459 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,600 I realized I don't have any defect. I'm part of Nature's perfection. 460 00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:20,776 My daughter was born small because I'm a small woman. 461 00:37:20,860 --> 00:37:23,200 Even there Nature was perfect. 462 00:37:23,780 --> 00:37:28,040 The current childbirth model in Brazil and many countries 463 00:37:28,130 --> 00:37:31,430 is doubtlessly based on pathology. 464 00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:36,050 We sometimes end up doing what we call prenatal nocebo effect. 465 00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:38,490 We always try to label the woman. 466 00:37:38,580 --> 00:37:41,256 Either she has high or low blood pressure, 467 00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:44,976 too much or little fluid, gained too much or little weight. 468 00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:48,496 These are minor issues that are created 469 00:37:48,580 --> 00:37:51,546 to show that this woman has a problem. 470 00:37:51,630 --> 00:37:57,350 Hardly does a woman leave any prenatal visit feeling happy and OK. 471 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,100 It is very good to face pregnancy 472 00:38:00,190 --> 00:38:04,266 not as a state of tension, worries 473 00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:06,480 that something might go wrong. 474 00:38:06,570 --> 00:38:09,110 It is "How nice! I am creating life!" 475 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,840 "A gorgeous pregnant woman! How cool! What a blessing!" 476 00:38:14,060 --> 00:38:18,860 An OB who worked for several years in a reference hospital 477 00:38:18,980 --> 00:38:22,786 has seen so many problems that it's difficult to separate things. 478 00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:25,110 And most pregnancies are healthy, 479 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,800 but the complicated cases make an impression. 480 00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:31,400 If you tell the doctor: "I want a normal birth", 481 00:38:31,490 --> 00:38:33,340 the classic answer is: 482 00:38:33,450 --> 00:38:37,126 "If everything is all right, then you can have a normal birth." 483 00:38:37,210 --> 00:38:42,070 When we say "if everything is all right", we invert it. 484 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:47,030 You are going to have a normal birth, unless something bad happens. 485 00:40:23,130 --> 00:40:25,570 I was here at home, already sleeping, 486 00:40:25,660 --> 00:40:28,460 when my water broke at 3 AM. 487 00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:30,030 So we called the doctor. 488 00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:34,530 And he was waking up and asked: 489 00:40:34,970 --> 00:40:37,126 "What time is it?" I said: "3 AM." 490 00:40:37,210 --> 00:40:39,676 And he said: "Amanda, you gotta wait now." 491 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,810 Five minutes later he called me, I'm not kidding. 492 00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:47,576 He said: "Amanda, go to the hospital 493 00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:52,320 because I have to check on your dilation, 494 00:40:52,410 --> 00:40:56,280 let's check everything, the color of the fluid." 495 00:40:56,530 --> 00:40:58,306 And everything was OK. 496 00:40:58,390 --> 00:41:02,106 I told him the color, and he said: "Go to the hospital to check, 497 00:41:02,190 --> 00:41:05,616 when you arrive there, you'll be checked by a colleague. 498 00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:09,430 If that's the case, we'll perform a C-section." 499 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,006 When I got to the hospital, she checked, 500 00:41:13,090 --> 00:41:15,726 and I was just 1 cm dilated. 501 00:41:15,810 --> 00:41:20,406 My doctor arrived right away and said: "This can be very harmful 502 00:41:20,490 --> 00:41:25,426 because until you go through all the dilation process 503 00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:29,500 it can take long and can lead to fetal distress." 504 00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:33,330 I got scared, and I said: "I won't let that happen." 505 00:41:33,690 --> 00:41:35,570 "Do what you must." 506 00:41:42,290 --> 00:41:46,330 EVIDENCE-BASED MEDICINE 507 00:41:47,140 --> 00:41:51,926 In theory there should be a bridge uniting 508 00:41:52,010 --> 00:41:54,970 scientific knowledge produced by some, 509 00:41:55,060 --> 00:41:57,620 to the obstetric practice carried by others. 510 00:41:57,710 --> 00:42:01,086 Sadly, this bridge is broken in many circumstances. 511 00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:05,920 Contrary to what many lay people think, for a long time, 512 00:42:06,010 --> 00:42:10,860 medical practice was not supported by solid scientific evidence. 513 00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:14,226 When we started talking about evidence-based medicine, 514 00:42:14,310 --> 00:42:19,086 some people, especially health providers, were shocked. 515 00:42:19,170 --> 00:42:23,016 "How? Isn't medicine based on evidence?" 516 00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:26,366 "Isn't medicine a scientific activity?" 517 00:42:26,450 --> 00:42:32,750 Actually, most clinical practice until recently 518 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,396 was not endorsed by solid scientific evidence. 519 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,966 Some researchers realized 520 00:42:40,050 --> 00:42:44,250 that childbirth care was based on guessing, 521 00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:47,130 on medical dogma. 522 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,380 Then they questioned that, started to investigate 523 00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:57,176 and to compare births with or without episiotomy and Pitocin. 524 00:42:57,260 --> 00:43:01,280 And it dawned on them that most procedures were harmful and painful 525 00:43:01,370 --> 00:43:04,160 and shouldn't be routinely performed. 526 00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:05,710 It's tragic. 527 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:12,820 Many health professionals didn't have access to this knowledge. 528 00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:19,780 Many medical school professors didn't update their teachings 529 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,516 according to scientific evidences. 530 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,036 There is that common speech: 531 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,776 "I've been delivering babies for 30 years, 532 00:43:26,860 --> 00:43:29,700 performed episiotomy and never had problems, 533 00:43:29,790 --> 00:43:31,506 I'm not going to change now." 534 00:43:31,590 --> 00:43:37,450 It's very difficult to go against this authoritative speech. 535 00:43:37,650 --> 00:43:41,910 If the doctor said so, who knows better than the doctor? 536 00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:46,690 RITUALISTIC INTERVENTIONS 537 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,190 Human birth merges together 538 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,620 the three most feared events to mankind: 539 00:44:08,030 --> 00:44:11,290 life, death and sexuality. 540 00:44:11,540 --> 00:44:16,230 It's for that reason that we feel the need to ritualize birth, 541 00:44:16,370 --> 00:44:22,686 to have, as health professionals, the delusion of control over it. 542 00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:29,060 That's why we resort to numerous ritualistic non-scientific interventions 543 00:44:29,150 --> 00:44:31,490 when attending births in hospitals. 544 00:44:52,970 --> 00:44:57,876 Women are obliged to give birth in the conventional dorsal position 545 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,756 they must lie down during labor, 546 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,240 and suffer unnecessary interventions. 547 00:45:25,070 --> 00:45:28,910 And during birth itself, apart from several aggressive, 548 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:34,800 inadequate verbal orders, there are other interventions 549 00:45:34,890 --> 00:45:38,800 such as episiotomy and Kristeller maneuver. 550 00:45:38,890 --> 00:45:43,626 It is estimated that no more than 15% of women 551 00:45:43,710 --> 00:45:49,950 present health or birth dynamics problems to require some sort of intervention. 552 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,970 Nevertheless we are close to 100% intervention. 553 00:45:53,060 --> 00:45:56,230 It isn't possible that 100% of women may have a defect 554 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,170 or problems that prevent them from giving birth naturally. 555 00:46:00,260 --> 00:46:02,920 Weren't our bodies made for this? 556 00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:06,820 My water broke at home, but during birth 557 00:46:06,910 --> 00:46:09,446 the OB climbed upon my stomach along with the pediatrician to help me. 558 00:46:09,530 --> 00:46:10,916 MOTHER AND HOUSEWIFE 559 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,670 The pediatrician pushed, telling me to push harder. 560 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,896 And they cut me down here, so I could deliver the baby. 561 00:46:18,980 --> 00:46:24,630 Contemporary society frequently produces the poison and then sells the antidote. 562 00:46:24,750 --> 00:46:27,260 That's clearly what happened to childbirth. 563 00:46:28,210 --> 00:46:32,376 And then people have this collective fantasy 564 00:46:32,460 --> 00:46:36,536 that it was either the mother's, the baby's, or the delivery's fault. 565 00:46:36,620 --> 00:46:39,330 The problem wasn't caused by the intervention. 566 00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:42,660 So the idea is that hospital saved all these people 567 00:46:42,750 --> 00:46:48,070 when the hospital practices created all those subsequent problems. 568 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,130 Sometimes it works like a cascade of inadequate procedures. 569 00:46:52,660 --> 00:46:56,456 For every procedure you have its inherent risk 570 00:46:56,540 --> 00:47:00,380 and also the risk of needing additional interventions 571 00:47:00,470 --> 00:47:03,426 in order to fix what the first one has caused. 572 00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:08,490 Women are not asked for permission for all the procedures 573 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:10,736 that are made on their bodies. 574 00:47:10,820 --> 00:47:14,020 They sometimes suffer interventions 575 00:47:14,110 --> 00:47:16,550 that are very aggressive. 576 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,750 It's a dilemma that we must solve by searching 577 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,100 for another model of childbirth care, 578 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,360 a natural birth indeed 579 00:47:26,450 --> 00:47:29,116 in which physiology should be respected, 580 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,006 in which interventions would be performed 581 00:47:32,090 --> 00:47:34,950 under strict indication only. 582 00:47:38,890 --> 00:47:41,620 A newborn is like wet cement 583 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:47,276 and everything that they feel and their every sensation is amplified. 584 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,916 So, if he is born at a cozy home, 585 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,716 in the warm arms of his parents, with skin-to-skin contact, 586 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,350 the message he receives is "it's worth being born", 587 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,960 this world is warming and receptive. 588 00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:10,160 But if he is born and separated from his parents, 589 00:48:10,250 --> 00:48:14,956 it is a beginning marked by the need 590 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,160 for survival which is very hard on them. 591 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,926 The classical hospital childbirth is very violent. 592 00:48:36,010 --> 00:48:38,186 The cold, the handling of the baby… 593 00:48:38,270 --> 00:48:39,606 PERINATAL PSYCHOLOGIST 594 00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:41,590 …stretching that little shrunken body. 595 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,136 The noise, the light. 596 00:48:44,220 --> 00:48:48,580 It is a great shock that the first transition of their lives 597 00:48:48,670 --> 00:48:50,620 is marked by violence. 598 00:49:07,650 --> 00:49:11,666 When Pedro was born, at bath time, 599 00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:15,000 the nurse picked him up like a chicken. I said: "Stop!" 600 00:49:15,090 --> 00:49:18,490 She said: "I do it every day!" I said: "But he doesn't." 601 00:49:18,580 --> 00:49:22,830 I don't care if you always do this, my son is a newborn, and he's unique. 602 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:27,976 He has never been grabbed like a chicken! So let me do it." 603 00:49:28,060 --> 00:49:30,986 As pediatricians, many of us were trained 604 00:49:31,070 --> 00:49:35,370 to suction the baby's mouth so they can breathe more easily. 605 00:49:35,460 --> 00:49:37,936 But if any of us, at an adult age, 606 00:49:38,020 --> 00:49:42,396 go through mouth suction, we will vomit, it'll hurt, 607 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,660 and we will feel discomfort to eat anything afterwards. 608 00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:51,380 And we are trained to do this to all newborn. 609 00:49:51,470 --> 00:49:56,550 When it is unnecessary, babies may perceive this 610 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,030 as an intense aggression at their birth. 611 00:50:01,310 --> 00:50:05,556 We see lots of dreadful mistakes, 612 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,080 but the kid is alive, so everybody… 613 00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:10,646 The doctor worked a miracle. 614 00:50:10,730 --> 00:50:13,980 Sorry, the woman gave birth, and God was backing her up. 615 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,790 SURVIVING IS NOT ENOUGH… 616 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,586 Unlike everyone's belief, birth will mark the child's life. 617 00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:26,220 "What difference does it make?" In fact, it makes a huge difference. 618 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:29,386 The idea is not the baby surviving being born 619 00:50:29,470 --> 00:50:31,270 and the mother the childbirth. 620 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,190 It's about quality. 621 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,586 The idea is to have tenderness during every aspect, 622 00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:41,010 in every moment of labor and childbirth 623 00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:43,206 and during the baby's first hours of life, 624 00:50:43,290 --> 00:50:44,970 we don't want survivors. 625 00:50:45,140 --> 00:50:48,976 We want well-received and respect people. 626 00:50:49,060 --> 00:50:51,430 It is more like handcraft, you know? 627 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:57,180 You just don't take your wife to a mass production of deliveries 628 00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:59,920 where they schedule your son. 629 00:51:00,380 --> 00:51:03,820 He will be born, you'll take him home and you'll be happy. 630 00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:08,586 But the fact is that the child who had the opportunity 631 00:51:08,670 --> 00:51:11,040 by natural childbirth will have benefits. 632 00:51:11,130 --> 00:51:13,630 What I find very funny in the whole process 633 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:17,596 is the rationale behind of what people think, even family: 634 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,246 "But they were born well, healthy. 635 00:51:21,330 --> 00:51:25,650 The doctors brought them healthy". 636 00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:27,970 No, I brought her healthy! 637 00:51:28,420 --> 00:51:33,156 I am very grateful for the doctors, but I think the story could be 638 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:37,650 much more beautiful, everything could have been much richer 639 00:51:37,740 --> 00:51:41,160 for me as a woman, for me as a mother, 640 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,430 So yeah, frustrating, very frustrating. 641 00:51:47,870 --> 00:51:51,320 I still want to cry. It's not right! 642 00:51:51,410 --> 00:51:54,650 Other mothers had the same experience I had. 643 00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,020 It should've been a beautiful moment unlike what it really was. 644 00:52:00,110 --> 00:52:02,796 I feel sorrow, I'm angry, 645 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,750 and I'm even afraid of my next pregnancy. 646 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,946 Right after Pedro was born 647 00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:24,140 I started studying. I should have studied before. 648 00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:27,540 I started studying the history of childbirth and I said: 649 00:52:27,630 --> 00:52:31,360 "Hey, so now I will give birth to Nina naturally". 650 00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:35,416 But the problem, I mean, the doctors said 651 00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:39,506 that the C-section had been very recent. 652 00:52:39,590 --> 00:52:42,800 I know that nowadays it is a common strategy, 653 00:52:42,890 --> 00:52:46,310 "once you have a C-section, you'll always have C-sections". 654 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,286 And I said: "I'm not going through my whole life 655 00:52:49,370 --> 00:52:51,210 without delivering naturally." 656 00:52:53,260 --> 00:52:56,170 I can't deprive myself of having that experience. 657 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,726 And it was great. 658 00:52:59,810 --> 00:53:03,420 It was this overwhelming experience, and then Nina came. 659 00:53:05,340 --> 00:53:09,536 I was in labor for 12 hours it was an amazing experience. 660 00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:14,430 And I felt I could leave this world happily 661 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,696 that's exactly what I felt. 662 00:53:16,780 --> 00:53:21,390 I felt like if I had given birth. It was our thing, me and Nina's. 663 00:53:29,110 --> 00:53:32,700 DELIVERY 664 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,126 Going into natural labor means that the baby is ready to be born. 665 00:53:39,210 --> 00:53:45,070 But what exactly makes a baby be born on the 4th, the 28th, or on the 10th? 666 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,490 We don't know. 667 00:53:46,580 --> 00:53:50,430 But when it happens at term, 668 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,190 that's the best choice that the baby herself made. 669 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,450 That's where the importance of labor lies. 670 00:53:57,540 --> 00:54:02,936 During labor, several physiological changes occur 671 00:54:03,020 --> 00:54:07,866 which provide the baby with better adaptation as soon as she is born. 672 00:54:07,950 --> 00:54:11,416 Evidence shows that labor 673 00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:15,450 triggers hormonal discharges which help the baby mature 674 00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:18,610 which send her messages telling her: 675 00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:22,760 "It's time to be born, get your systems ready". 676 00:54:23,620 --> 00:54:29,186 A child that is born after labor, even by C-section, 677 00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:33,060 will be healthier than those who were taken out, 678 00:54:33,150 --> 00:54:37,180 who were sleeping like kings in the womb, and suddenly 679 00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:39,896 you yank them out like "You're outside now." 680 00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:43,856 So we are talking about short-term benefits, 681 00:54:43,940 --> 00:54:48,186 but there are several other long-term ones 682 00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:52,806 that will last during the baby's entire life. 683 00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:57,326 Labor plays a fundamental role in birth. 684 00:54:57,410 --> 00:54:59,490 Regarding safety, 685 00:54:59,580 --> 00:55:02,996 which is a very important concern to the mother, obviously, 686 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,946 it is much safer to respect physiological conditions of birth 687 00:55:08,030 --> 00:55:11,106 than other varieties, such as: 688 00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:17,466 "Be here tomorrow at 4 PM and your baby will be born at 5." 689 00:55:17,550 --> 00:55:19,310 And we didn't ask the baby. 690 00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:32,146 When I decided to be a mother, 691 00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:37,120 I decided I wanted a natural childbirth. 692 00:55:37,250 --> 00:55:42,500 It was not at all easy as it took eight hours and the pain was intense. 693 00:55:42,650 --> 00:55:44,956 The way we conducted my labor… 694 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,350 MÃE AND BUSINESSWOMAN 695 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,086 …didn't make me think about giving up. 696 00:55:51,170 --> 00:55:53,646 We used palliative pain management, 697 00:55:53,730 --> 00:55:56,240 such as acupuncture, massage. 698 00:55:56,330 --> 00:56:02,646 I spent the whole labor with my doula and my husband, which was fundamental! 699 00:56:02,730 --> 00:56:05,166 We dimmed the lights, I listened to music. 700 00:56:05,250 --> 00:56:07,206 I managed to focus. 701 00:56:07,290 --> 00:56:09,760 I had this strong connection with my body. 702 00:56:11,310 --> 00:56:14,126 In the end, I found everything was beautiful. 703 00:56:14,210 --> 00:56:19,386 I think natural childbirth is a great poetry, it is very poetic, 704 00:56:19,470 --> 00:56:25,530 when you allow your instinct and your body to work on its behalf. 705 00:56:33,660 --> 00:56:38,896 When a woman experiences uterine contractions, 706 00:56:38,980 --> 00:56:41,380 and receives the "hormonal cocktail", 707 00:56:41,470 --> 00:56:45,546 establishing the bond with the newborn is much easier. 708 00:56:45,630 --> 00:56:49,450 Women recover physically much faster, they bleed less. 709 00:56:49,740 --> 00:56:52,176 So anemia is unlikely, 710 00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:54,480 and there is less risk of infection. 711 00:56:54,570 --> 00:56:59,160 Actually, even high-risk pregnancies, in general, 712 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,230 will benefit from normal birth. 713 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,016 When I pictured myself pregnant… I have three girls. 714 00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:11,976 I've always wanted to be a mother, always considered normal birth, 715 00:57:12,060 --> 00:57:15,586 I had this instinct that this would be better, 716 00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:18,930 and much more pleasant, and it'd be more fulfilling. 717 00:57:19,150 --> 00:57:21,336 Before birth, there was that challenge too… 718 00:57:21,420 --> 00:57:22,916 OBSTETRICIAN 719 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,386 …I heard in the hospital where I worked that for ten years 720 00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:28,990 no physician had given birth naturally. 721 00:57:29,180 --> 00:57:33,950 That was another bit of a challenge for me. 722 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,316 "So, now you are all going to see a doctor giving birth". 723 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:43,270 Of course I felt very powerful afterwards. 724 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,206 That's very interesting because today 725 00:57:46,290 --> 00:57:52,806 I am an OB-Gyn, so I'm a role model for my patients, I lead by example, right? 726 00:57:52,890 --> 00:57:59,130 So it's like: Do as I say, but I did it too. 727 00:57:59,220 --> 00:58:02,860 I really believe in what I'm offering them! 728 00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:06,780 LABOR PAIN 729 00:58:07,610 --> 00:58:11,736 For us, women from western Judeo-Christian civilization, 730 00:58:11,820 --> 00:58:16,170 that biblical saying has a great impact, "with pain will you give birth". 731 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,286 As if becoming a mother were connected to suffering. 732 00:58:20,370 --> 00:58:26,446 And the media such as TV and the movies contribute to enhance this idea 733 00:58:26,530 --> 00:58:30,780 showing women in labor groaning and writhing in pain. 734 00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:34,596 Of course most women will experience pain during labor, 735 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,050 but testimonies reveal that most of the complaints 736 00:58:39,340 --> 00:58:43,540 are mostly about the emotional abuse they've suffered, 737 00:58:43,630 --> 00:58:46,730 unnecessary interventions, not the childbirth itself. 738 00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:53,420 Childbirth is like mountain climbing. 739 00:58:53,590 --> 00:58:55,810 You have to carry a backpack. 740 00:58:56,050 --> 00:59:00,826 Prenatal care is packing. 741 00:59:00,910 --> 00:59:03,366 It's the assurance of a low risk pregnancy 742 00:59:03,450 --> 00:59:04,836 and that it's all fine. 743 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,240 Probably, when you're almost at the end of the hike, you will get cramps 744 00:59:09,330 --> 00:59:12,650 and think you can't take it any longer. 745 00:59:12,740 --> 00:59:18,506 Then you stop, breathe and think, "If I could get this far, I can go on." 746 00:59:18,590 --> 00:59:21,870 That's the beauty of it! It's the possibility 747 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,396 of transcending limits, no matter what they are: 748 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,316 tiredness, pain, sleepiness, hunger, it's the will to endure. 749 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,866 So you connect with your inner self and say: 750 00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:35,356 "I can handle it!" Then you go ahead! 751 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,520 And you get to the mountain top and see the view, 752 00:59:38,610 --> 00:59:42,170 and it is totally different from getting there by helicopter. 753 00:59:42,260 --> 00:59:44,310 You accomplished it yourself! 754 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:15,406 Pain and suffering are not related at all! 755 01:00:15,490 --> 01:00:17,230 It's very important. 756 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,900 The hurtful contraction during labor lasts one minute. 757 01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:27,296 After that, you'll have three, four, five minutes, of total relaxation, 758 01:00:27,380 --> 01:00:30,510 some women fall asleep between contractions. 759 01:00:38,810 --> 01:00:42,756 Birth is not only a physiological act starting with the contractions 760 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,056 and ends with the baby being born. 761 01:00:45,140 --> 01:00:49,596 It is a true rite of initiation, of passage 762 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,846 for the mother and also for the family and the baby 763 01:00:52,930 --> 01:00:56,306 who has an active role and comes out stronger from it. 764 01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:59,506 People think that childbirth is something bodily. 765 01:00:59,590 --> 01:01:03,280 A process of a baby coming out. 766 01:01:03,580 --> 01:01:05,380 Just the physical aspect. 767 01:01:05,730 --> 01:01:08,326 But the more years I attend births, 768 01:01:08,410 --> 01:01:13,660 I see that birth is her soul expressing itself through her body. 769 01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:16,226 With the right conditions, 770 01:01:16,310 --> 01:01:18,820 birth can be the most transcendental moment 771 01:01:18,910 --> 01:01:20,466 in the life of a woman, 772 01:01:20,550 --> 01:01:25,200 from all points of view: physical, emotional, spiritual, sexual. 773 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,200 If I could give birth, I would! 774 01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:00,030 Why would a mother give up 775 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:04,600 on her special and magical moment and be sedated? 776 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,840 There is a complete lack of common sense in the world, 777 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,880 as if the people were going to just consume. 778 01:02:12,060 --> 01:02:14,950 It is such nonsense that we use drugs, 779 01:02:15,130 --> 01:02:20,216 we go to amusement parks to feel some intensity, isn't it? 780 01:02:20,300 --> 01:02:24,850 We can go through tragic moments, 781 01:02:24,940 --> 01:02:29,250 as well as feel that life is strong. 782 01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:32,520 But labor is a moment that is not tragic 783 01:02:32,610 --> 01:02:37,320 and is simply given to us as a gift. 784 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:46,536 We celebrate weddings that won't last a year. 785 01:02:46,620 --> 01:02:50,166 We sometimes spend a fortune and take years to prepare 786 01:02:50,250 --> 01:02:56,360 for so artificial and empty events. 787 01:02:56,450 --> 01:02:59,396 And labor and birth alone naturally, 788 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,500 provide us a situation 789 01:03:03,010 --> 01:03:08,260 where we find a power as a human being, 790 01:03:08,370 --> 01:03:12,306 that feeds us, shapes us and fortifies us! 791 01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:17,126 So when I see that we have 52% of C-sections in Brazil, 792 01:03:17,210 --> 01:03:20,110 I say: "We are losing opportunities." 793 01:03:20,610 --> 01:03:24,380 HUMANIZED CHILDBIRTH 794 01:04:53,460 --> 01:04:57,566 Doulas are birth attendants, but they are trained ones. 795 01:04:57,650 --> 01:05:02,660 They don't perform medical nor midwifery procedures. 796 01:05:02,980 --> 01:05:07,416 They don't replace the partner, they have another kind of look, 797 01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:10,320 a professional look over childbirth, 798 01:05:10,460 --> 01:05:12,676 even without performing procedures. 799 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:17,070 During prenatal care they help women make their birth plan, 800 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,300 they inform and show sources of evidence-based information 801 01:05:21,390 --> 01:05:24,090 so that women may write their birth plan. 802 01:05:57,070 --> 01:06:01,680 Not separating mother and baby and letting them eye to eye 803 01:06:01,990 --> 01:06:05,256 is the most powerful antidote 804 01:06:05,340 --> 01:06:09,620 against any kind of baby blues or postpartum depression. 805 01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:13,670 Why do we separate a baby from her mother at birth? 806 01:06:16,810 --> 01:06:20,820 The baby came from inside the mother's body, under 95 or 96 ºF. 807 01:06:20,910 --> 01:06:23,500 And he shouldn't be received at 64ºF or 68ºF, 808 01:06:23,590 --> 01:06:26,320 the temperature inside an OR. 809 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,646 The baby should be received in a warm and dark environment, 810 01:06:31,730 --> 01:06:34,206 with the least possible sensory stimuli, 811 01:06:34,290 --> 01:06:36,136 because it upsets him. 812 01:06:36,220 --> 01:06:42,530 And I can check everything I need when he is still in mom's arms. 813 01:06:44,210 --> 01:06:47,430 I don't need to give him a bath, 814 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,836 or to remove the vernix, which is very important for his protection. 815 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,896 That is true also for a birth scenario when the baby is not fully adapted, 816 01:06:56,980 --> 01:07:00,290 because he is premature or has breathing problems, 817 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:05,670 The later I cut the cord and separate him from his mother, the better! 818 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,180 That's a major challenge for us all. 819 01:07:12,170 --> 01:07:15,196 We will only truly humanize childbirth 820 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:21,610 if we return to women full control over their destiny and birth. 821 01:07:21,970 --> 01:07:26,716 The three fundamental pillars of birth humanization are: 822 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,220 Firstly, handing protagonism back to women, which is fundamental. 823 01:07:31,340 --> 01:07:35,276 Secondly, provide a broader integrative view of the phenomenon 824 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,346 not just from a mechanical and physiological view. 825 01:07:38,430 --> 01:07:43,480 But also including psychological, affective, emotional, spiritual, 826 01:07:43,570 --> 01:07:47,436 cultural and in the context with where the birth is to take place. 827 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:53,370 And last but not least, a profound bond with evidence-based medicine. 828 01:07:53,500 --> 01:07:57,080 Everything that is nowadays said about humanizing childbirth 829 01:07:57,170 --> 01:07:59,910 is based on the most modern research 830 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,580 on labor and childbirth procedures. 831 01:09:51,370 --> 01:09:54,279 In Brazil, most births, 832 01:09:54,410 --> 01:09:58,110 around 90%, are attended by doctors. 833 01:09:58,220 --> 01:10:02,006 There is evidence that births 834 01:10:02,090 --> 01:10:05,280 can be attended by other professionals. 835 01:10:05,490 --> 01:10:09,220 This is the standard model of care in many other countries. 836 01:10:54,660 --> 01:11:00,870 The World Health Organization considers as licensed professionals for birth care, 837 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,550 OB/GYNs, family doctors, 838 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:10,016 nurse-midwives and certified professional midwives. 839 01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:14,890 The so called midwives attending births in hospitals are in fact 840 01:11:14,980 --> 01:11:18,246 nurse-midwives or certified professional midwives - CPM 841 01:11:18,330 --> 01:11:20,146 new to the Brazilian market. 842 01:11:20,230 --> 01:11:22,986 This model that we have in Brazil 843 01:11:23,070 --> 01:11:26,280 to certify the CPMs, an international model, 844 01:11:26,370 --> 01:11:30,916 is based on the risk assessment throughout pregnancy. 845 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:37,150 Every prenatal appointment we assess what's out of the ordinary. 846 01:11:37,470 --> 01:11:41,680 If anything abnormal shows up at any moment, 847 01:11:41,770 --> 01:11:45,030 I direct her to high risk care, 848 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,060 to doctors from a reference hospital 849 01:11:48,150 --> 01:11:51,660 so she can have a more specialized healthcare. 850 01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:54,526 As long as she remains low-risk, 851 01:11:54,610 --> 01:11:56,240 I can continue her care. 852 01:12:05,020 --> 01:12:06,960 What is the evidence available? 853 01:12:07,050 --> 01:12:10,990 There is this systematic review published in 2008 854 01:12:11,230 --> 01:12:17,800 which shows that midwife-led or nurse-midwives models of care 855 01:12:17,890 --> 01:12:21,770 have several advantages for low-risk mothers 856 01:12:21,860 --> 01:12:27,020 over the traditional medical-led models. 857 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,080 We dream of being able to comprehend that, 858 01:12:32,170 --> 01:12:34,940 especially in the Brazilian scene, 859 01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:37,396 we have room for everybody. 860 01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:42,866 What we don't have room is for a completely medicalized birth, 861 01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:47,936 that doesn't treat the mother as an individual and only involves protocols 862 01:12:48,020 --> 01:12:52,226 as if protocols could handle situations so peculiar, 863 01:12:52,310 --> 01:12:56,270 so delicate and unique as the birth process. 864 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:11,680 Nowadays, most births happen in hospitals. 865 01:13:11,770 --> 01:13:17,896 We know that, for a low risk birth, the hospital environment 866 01:13:17,980 --> 01:13:23,560 does not make the mother feel competent, 867 01:13:23,650 --> 01:13:27,980 and capable at that moment. 868 01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:30,420 It's not just about a vaginal birth. 869 01:13:30,510 --> 01:13:35,830 I have assisted deliveries where women gave birth in extraordinary ways. 870 01:13:36,260 --> 01:13:40,850 If she needs to walk like a beast around a tree 871 01:13:40,940 --> 01:13:44,380 to enter this birth energy, she must do it. 872 01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:46,976 She must be given the possibility. 873 01:13:47,060 --> 01:13:49,996 If she needs three days to give birth, 874 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,080 my goodness, she must have those three days. 875 01:13:57,090 --> 01:14:00,256 And the most adequate place for a woman to give birth, 876 01:14:00,340 --> 01:14:04,400 according to the WHO, is where she feels safe. 877 01:14:04,490 --> 01:14:08,250 Some women will feel safer in the warmth of their homes. 878 01:14:08,340 --> 01:14:11,446 Others prefer to have their babies in birth centers, 879 01:14:11,530 --> 01:14:14,700 in their neighborhoods, nearby people they know. 880 01:14:14,990 --> 01:14:18,530 Some other women will choose to give birth in hospitals 881 01:14:18,620 --> 01:14:21,206 because they feel safe closer to technology. 882 01:14:21,290 --> 01:14:24,820 The health system must offer all these alternatives to women, 883 01:14:24,940 --> 01:14:28,490 so that they can adapt themselves to what they feel is best. 884 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,650 When I got pregnant with Felipe, I said: 885 01:14:54,060 --> 01:14:57,016 "I had a C-section, a hospital birth, 886 01:14:57,100 --> 01:15:01,550 now, that's what I need, I am going to birth Felipe at home." 887 01:15:01,990 --> 01:15:06,020 And then it was like a widespread concern. 888 01:15:06,710 --> 01:15:09,860 But after seeing, and understanding, and studying, 889 01:15:09,950 --> 01:15:12,820 and I only agreed after I understood and 890 01:15:13,470 --> 01:15:16,080 after having had access to good literature, 891 01:15:16,170 --> 01:15:22,590 not the literature imposed on you and written to scare you about it. 892 01:15:23,180 --> 01:15:24,620 It was so cool. 893 01:15:24,710 --> 01:15:30,286 We stayed in bed, in our room, watching movies, massaging. 894 01:15:30,370 --> 01:15:31,960 Such a great energy! 895 01:15:32,050 --> 01:15:36,250 Then we took a walk in the living room because the pains were coming. 896 01:15:36,340 --> 01:15:39,136 You have to go through it but I don't regret it. 897 01:15:39,220 --> 01:15:40,356 I'd do it again! 898 01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:43,150 It happened at night, the house was silent. 899 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,170 It was good, we were in peace. 900 01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,980 And finally Felipe decided to come out. 901 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,716 And I realized that it was much simpler than anything else. 902 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,086 THE BIRTH OF FELIPE WAS SUPERVISED BY AN OBSTETRIC NURSE 903 01:15:54,170 --> 01:15:55,756 As simple as that, my son was born in my hands. 904 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,450 The water didn't break, I opened it. 905 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:01,670 Oh, it was so… 906 01:16:05,940 --> 01:16:08,570 It even makes me want to have another one. 907 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,470 It was so beautiful! And the coolest part was that 908 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:18,460 Felipe came directly to my chest and stayed there nursing for two hours. 909 01:16:19,180 --> 01:16:22,640 In the morning my kids said: "Can we visit Felipe?" 910 01:16:22,730 --> 01:16:26,350 And they entered our room, and the kid was on our bed. 911 01:16:27,670 --> 01:16:28,976 It was unbelievable! 912 01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:33,910 I remember being at the maternity, without any access, besides looking. 913 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:39,816 Nothing compares to the emotion of living 914 01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:44,030 this moment as it should be lived. 915 01:16:44,450 --> 01:16:50,660 With feel, with contact, with your warmth, your voice 916 01:16:51,490 --> 01:16:53,430 with all the suffering, 917 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,510 because it's not easy without anesthesia, 918 01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,160 But Andrea gained a lot going through that, as everyone does. 919 01:17:00,250 --> 01:17:05,360 I believe anyone who goes through such a moment gains a lot. 920 01:17:06,460 --> 01:17:08,410 I felt very capable. 921 01:17:08,690 --> 01:17:13,006 I felt strong, you know? A lioness. 922 01:17:13,090 --> 01:17:17,540 A mother who did her best for her son. 923 01:18:01,410 --> 01:18:05,436 Planned home births exist worldwide. 924 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,866 We have it in Holland, England, Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. 925 01:18:09,950 --> 01:18:12,960 There are different homebirth models. 926 01:18:30,460 --> 01:18:35,866 In Brazil, there are two homebirth models that coexist in different ways. 927 01:18:35,950 --> 01:18:38,666 One of them is the traditional midwife model 928 01:18:38,750 --> 01:18:42,000 in North and Northeast, which exists in great quantity. 929 01:18:42,090 --> 01:18:45,900 Very often, that woman doesn't have access to health services. 930 01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:49,546 Which is a paradox: sometimes they need a C-section, 931 01:18:49,630 --> 01:18:52,230 and it takes two days to get there by boat. 932 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,386 I started helping babies in the rural area. 933 01:18:55,470 --> 01:18:56,716 Sometimes even went by donkey or horse. 934 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,036 TRADITIONAL MIDWIFE 935 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,880 Women would call me and I would go. 936 01:19:00,970 --> 01:19:04,996 I delivered my sisters too, helped my mother. 937 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,690 When the TBA arrived, I was holding my sister. 938 01:19:08,780 --> 01:19:11,546 I already delivered in a carriage… 939 01:19:11,630 --> 01:19:12,860 TRADITIONAL MIDWIFE 940 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,140 …on the ground, in the woods, 941 01:19:15,230 --> 01:19:18,456 under a tree, on a banana leaf. 942 01:19:18,540 --> 01:19:22,220 There was a hospital, but their conditions 943 01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:25,776 to get there were thin. 944 01:19:25,860 --> 01:19:29,410 Because we live in rural areas, we don't have a car, 945 01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:31,956 there's no way to get to the hospital. 946 01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,100 So they preferred to call the TBA 947 01:19:35,450 --> 01:19:37,220 to have their babies at home. 948 01:19:37,580 --> 01:19:41,010 PLANNED HOME BIRTH 949 01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:44,880 And there is another movement, which is growing a lot 950 01:19:44,970 --> 01:19:48,670 which is the homebirth in urban centers 951 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,906 assisted by a nurse-midwife or a certified midwife 952 01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:55,570 or even by doctors who work according to this model. 953 01:19:55,660 --> 01:20:00,090 Homebirth is for low-risk women without complications. 954 01:20:00,180 --> 01:20:06,836 We go equipped with a set of materials for attending a birth, 955 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,510 for normal situations, such as gloves, gauze, 956 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,136 things that we are going to need to assist. 957 01:20:13,220 --> 01:20:16,276 And also for more complex situations. 958 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,430 So if I need to stitch, I have stitching thread. 959 01:20:19,550 --> 01:20:21,276 I can apply local anesthesia. 960 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:25,966 I have some kind of medication for hemorrhage. 961 01:20:26,050 --> 01:20:29,650 Oxygen if the baby needs it, neonatal resuscitation material. 962 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:34,370 I have a trunk full of things to give assistance to the woman. 963 01:20:35,440 --> 01:20:40,176 We have today at our disposal, to understand home births, 964 01:20:40,260 --> 01:20:44,630 retrospective and prospective studies in which we look at a group of women 965 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,356 who have given birth at home or in a hospital 966 01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:51,450 or a group of women that will have a baby at home or in a hospital. 967 01:20:51,540 --> 01:20:56,500 And studies conducted abroad with a huge number of women 968 01:20:56,590 --> 01:21:00,220 which tell us that homebirth is as safe as a hospital birth. 969 01:21:00,310 --> 01:21:05,646 A Dutch study published in 2009 with more than 500.000 childbirths, 970 01:21:05,730 --> 01:21:09,466 demonstrates the safety of planned home birth 971 01:21:09,550 --> 01:21:15,316 in terms of perinatal outcomes very similar 972 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,920 to those in low-risk planned hospital births 973 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:24,856 and with a much reduced number of medical interventions. 974 01:21:24,940 --> 01:21:29,320 In a domestic environment there are bacteria from that environment. 975 01:21:29,410 --> 01:21:32,876 They are favorable to mothers. They are friends. 976 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,766 You'll never have an infection in a domestic environment, 977 01:21:36,850 --> 01:21:39,520 as one would in a hospital. 978 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:44,426 In a health care scenario, 979 01:21:44,510 --> 01:21:50,440 of anticipating any event in the point of view of prevention, 980 01:21:50,530 --> 01:21:54,320 of trained care providers, such as the midwife, 981 01:21:54,410 --> 01:21:59,140 nurse-midwife or even a doctor, 982 01:21:59,230 --> 01:22:03,190 is possible to gather information 983 01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:08,796 that can allow a decision on whether it can be a homebirth or not. 984 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,730 What in fact makes a difference 985 01:22:10,820 --> 01:22:14,556 is prenatal care and identifying risks, 986 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,720 because risks also exist inside the hospital. 987 01:22:18,090 --> 01:22:22,000 In home birth, it's not that the baby will have to be born at home 988 01:22:22,090 --> 01:22:24,046 because she planned that way. 989 01:22:24,130 --> 01:22:29,186 The woman in labor stays at home as long as everything is normal. 990 01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:34,170 If we suspect that maybe there's something not normal, 991 01:22:34,260 --> 01:22:36,896 we go to the hospital and birth ends there. 992 01:22:36,980 --> 01:22:40,090 And most of them still end up being a normal birth, 993 01:22:40,180 --> 01:22:43,506 but with some intervention that we cannot perform at home 994 01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:46,300 because interventions adds risk to childbirth. 995 01:22:46,430 --> 01:22:50,040 Every woman will feel safer in a different environment 996 01:22:50,130 --> 01:22:54,470 and many times that place is a hospital. 997 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,620 So we know that homebirth is maybe for a few people. 998 01:22:58,710 --> 01:23:05,050 Our minds still works very attached to the hospital model of care. 999 01:23:05,150 --> 01:23:11,940 It's important that all women have the choice of home birth 1000 01:23:12,030 --> 01:23:17,230 to understand that if it can happen at home, it's not so complicated. 1001 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,190 SOLUTIONS 1002 01:23:38,690 --> 01:23:42,980 There is a set of initiatives that can improve the scenario. 1003 01:23:43,070 --> 01:23:48,640 Everything that happens in capitalism is determined by consumer demand. 1004 01:23:48,730 --> 01:23:52,720 This nice childbirth will happen due to women demand. 1005 01:23:52,810 --> 01:23:56,070 We have to improve the quality of information for women, 1006 01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,620 using simple language, in simple leaflets, 1007 01:23:58,710 --> 01:24:03,930 so they can say: "Don't cut me, because I know what I'm missing. 1008 01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:08,240 "I don't want to be cut, nor saline solution, neither Pitocin". 1009 01:24:09,060 --> 01:24:13,370 Let's teach everything about childbirth to those who are 14, 15 years old. 1010 01:24:13,460 --> 01:24:17,740 The same way they study Geography, History, Grammar, Childbirth! 1011 01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:21,606 That's more than sexual education. That is education for life! 1012 01:24:21,690 --> 01:24:26,680 Because then when the time comes to be pregnant, to give birth, 1013 01:24:26,830 --> 01:24:31,770 there's already a very rich theoretical foundation that is part of that woman. 1014 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,190 If you only offer her a bad option for birth, 1015 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:40,120 full of interventions, violent lying on her back with her legs spread, 1016 01:24:40,210 --> 01:24:44,590 or a scheduled C-section, she has no option. 1017 01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,436 Yet, if she can choose everything concerning 1018 01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,856 her delivery, the birth of her son, 1019 01:24:50,940 --> 01:24:53,586 then you have a wide range of options. 1020 01:24:53,670 --> 01:24:56,220 If she is aware of her decisions, 1021 01:24:56,310 --> 01:25:00,020 she will have a good birth, regardless of her choices. 1022 01:25:00,590 --> 01:25:03,406 Practitioners must recognize 1023 01:25:03,490 --> 01:25:09,126 that they have an ethical commitment to doing good, 1024 01:25:09,210 --> 01:25:14,510 and should abandon what is harmful and ineffective. 1025 01:25:14,910 --> 01:25:18,940 Health system managers 1026 01:25:19,210 --> 01:25:23,816 must have the courage to take measures that are unpopular 1027 01:25:23,900 --> 01:25:26,530 with health professionals 1028 01:25:26,620 --> 01:25:32,646 and take control of C-section indications. 1029 01:25:32,730 --> 01:25:36,720 As long as childbirth care is controlled by doctors, 1030 01:25:36,810 --> 01:25:41,216 it will be very hard for us to reduce the C-section rate. 1031 01:25:41,300 --> 01:25:44,660 The insertion of new players is urgent. 1032 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,716 Playing with nature, the way we have been, 1033 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,770 with too frequent interventions, generates much more morbidity 1034 01:26:05,860 --> 01:26:07,506 than solutions to problems. 1035 01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:10,736 We know what we are doing today with the human birth, 1036 01:26:10,820 --> 01:26:15,486 and many times attacking the building process of the human birth 1037 01:26:15,570 --> 01:26:17,910 more than seven million years old. 1038 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,706 That can put our own survival on this planet at risk. 1039 01:26:21,790 --> 01:26:25,116 When there isn't any woman giving birth vaginally 1040 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,066 due to our society's absolute incompetence 1041 01:26:28,150 --> 01:26:31,156 in dealing with this phenomenon, it may be too late. 1042 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:36,116 We've had earlier experience of collapsing societies 1043 01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:40,546 that did not know how to deal with their ecological challenges. 1044 01:26:40,630 --> 01:26:44,560 I hope society is not going towards a path of no-return. 1045 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:14,640 What will it be of our love hormone production system 1046 01:27:14,730 --> 01:27:17,130 if it stops being used? 1047 01:27:17,220 --> 01:27:19,566 If it starts being useless? 1048 01:27:19,650 --> 01:27:22,300 What does that mean in terms of civilization? 1049 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,070 I decided: "my next daughter will be born 1050 01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:53,990 the most natural way possible. That would not happen again." 1051 01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:57,910 I sought for information. 1052 01:27:58,130 --> 01:28:02,000 I found a wonderful doctor, an amazing doula and my family who, 1053 01:28:02,090 --> 01:28:05,060 though not accepting my idea, respected me. 1054 01:28:06,330 --> 01:28:09,040 And the birth was marvelous, at home. 1055 01:28:09,460 --> 01:28:12,816 At dawn. Peaceful. 1056 01:28:12,900 --> 01:28:15,840 Rafaela was born in the shower, this shower. 1057 01:28:16,450 --> 01:28:20,330 Birds were singing… 1058 01:28:21,020 --> 01:28:25,640 She was born and came straight to where she should be: my breast. 1059 01:28:26,650 --> 01:28:30,880 And didn't leave until she fell asleep and went to her father's arms. 1060 01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:38,880 I have never had such a feeling in my whole life. 85416

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