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hello this is Pete Brackey

I'm the author of Crystal Lake Memories

Complete History of Friday the 13th

in the upcoming book Scary Movies

and it is my pleasure to be moderating the commentary

for Urban Legend with me is Jamie Blanks

I'm the director of the movie and I'm Michael McDonald

one of the producers of the movie

along with Gina Matthews and Neil Maritz

and I'm Edgar Pablo

so I was the director's assistant and a whole lot more

this shot Michael I remember you um

this this this was one of your stunt shot

this is actually

the shot where the girl falls into the water

a stunt girl falls into the water

I remember looking at it in the uh

in the rushes and there's a bit of roll

because it was all high speed

and I'm like that's how opening shot of a movie

and it was a bit of an homage to Usual Suspects

which I produced also

because our opening credit sequence

there was just atmosphere

ripoly water as well

I was just a beautiful way to open the film

even though we were

we sort of going from storm to no storm

but then we're gonna reintroduce the storm

it just seemed appropriate to start the film that way

and kind of bookend it

where this font come from

this looks familiar this font

as it's quite well known I'm a huge John Carpenter fan

so I've stolen this font for all of my movies so far

the font is Albertus

and I think there is no find a font

actually mention that says almost 20 years to yeah

well it's interesting

we should just talk about a little bit about how this

this new Blu ray has come to be

I was contacted literally

20 years to the week by a producer from Screen Factory

my buddy Edwin Samuelson

about doing a new Blu ray for Urban Legends

and wanted to know

if I was interested in putting it together

so I thought well it'd be lovely to do a blue eye

collect all the spring Factory discs

I think it's a wonderful label

I've got all of their releases

almost all of their releases

I'm hoping I'm gonna get a few more

after doing all this work for

but um I thought

I'll reach out to the producers

and the writer and the cast

and see who's interested in if

you know if we get a nice response

we can do a nice uh little Blu ray to my astonishment

um how many interviews Eddie

so far we have 2620

six cast and crew from the movie have come back to do

interviews going out of their way to stay behind

uh Gina Matthews are interviewed on the night

literally she was moving out of her home

Michael Rosenbaum

was on the Eve of going off to record an album um

I mean seriously

we have just caught some of these people by days

Natasha Natasha Gregson Wagner

who were looking at here

literally was moving off to Michigan or something for

for six months I called her days before she left

this project is somehow been a little bit blessed

I've been in America for two weeks

uh and I've recorded 26 interviews

I think tomorrow or the next day

we're seeing Neil Maritz we're seeing Daniel Harris

we're seeing Silvio Author who wrote the screenplay

but I think it's quite unusual

20 years later to get that many people come back

and participate in the Blu ray

and I don't know what you reckon Michael

it's just kind of been beautiful

to just get back together

put the band back together and hang out a little bit

I think what we've discovered is the

is the reason that we're all back together

and

is because we had such a good time making this movie

in the first place we work really

really hard make it good

it's incredible concerted effort

we really bonded but everybody had a great

a great feeling a great vibe doing it

tell us about Natasha Gregson Wagner a little bit

and who her what her Providence is

Natasha is the

is the beautiful daughter of Natalie Wood

and casting her in this movie was um

I remember I think it came from Neil

it was Neil Maritz is this suggestion

originally the cast of Tasha

we didn't wanna do the big Drew Barrymore thing

like some famous um

some some pop culture icon

I just wanted to find a girl

who

you believe might be the lead character in this movie

it was just you know

we just introducing her

and we getting the movie started and interrupted

how does the gas station attendant know that

she may have just run out of gas chain

you have to ask Sylvia that one my friend

that one sit through the gate

the keeper sorry

the fact that the gas is a dollar 14

yes exactly that

and the the dating slide dates the movie considerably

go ahead and come on through

hello

the beers have arrived the beers have arrived yeah

not gonna test you know

the

it's a testament to Jamie and Michael and like you said

the fun everyone had in this movie

cause having done books

it will take me 3 or 4 months to get

people to even respond to interview requests

we counted every once in a day

everyone got back and said yes

we're in we're doing this

I was I was literally astonished

that everyone wanted to be a part of this movie

a bit this this Blu ray in this retrospective yeah

um we did have a great time in this film

we just wait I don't know

I've made films since and it's just

they've been great fun

but there was something special about this movie

there was something charmed about the whole thing

I don't know if this is

cause it was fast tracked

and we didn't have to have a lot of interference

I just suspect it was

the right people coming together to make the project

I mean many of us have stayed friends for

for years and and and

and we'll remain friends for the rest of our lives

and I just don't always have that experience on movies

and that you were 26 years old

when you got your first directing job

on a Hollywood feature

and everybody came together to support you

um was

was kind of a great thing too

everything coalesced around you

and I couldn't wanting to make it work for you

because you were living your dream making this movie

and we want to see that but that's

that's what's so extraordinary

is that I was a first time near flight directly with

I mean talk about little experience

all I had to show

Neil Maritz and motorway was a trailer

I made for a note you did last summer

some storyboards in a student film

and they were looking at real directors for this thing

and I don't understand um

quite wide they

they all made that decision

but I am

I'm eternally grateful that they did

and they surrounded me with such an incredible

group of people and

and in that context you can talk about this scene here

which we shot and cut together

and sent back to the studios

studio on the other producers

to prove that you knew what you're doing

on your game but yeah

and other

other filmmakers might be interested in that technique

and when you're making a movie to start with

when you when you're a first time filmmaker this

this this scene was scheduled quite early

as I recall the schedule

I think it might have been out there Week 2 on the

on the gas station

and I really wanted to get that shot because um

it was like a little movie within a movie

and it was proof that yo

I had I had an eye for the genre

I understood how to make these things work and could

could actually pull this production off with the

with the team that I had

and I was just astonished at what Jim Cresantis

and my incredibly talented camera operator

Peter Rosenfeld was able to achieve

um with with

with Jay Cassidy who's like editor extraordinary

with two Oscar nominations under his belt already

I remember the car going crazy opening night

when I saw this at this moment that's my hitcher

and with the

you sort of expect to be an explosion back there too

with the gas ripping out of the tank

and if it had been 1989 yeah

gas station would have been in flame

Christina a little bit

the carpenter I

I remember when we shot this is poor man's process

and I I remember when we were doing this really

cop talk in the we were

it was still scary seeing on the monitor

we're all freaking out great

it looked yeah it was always my idea that we would um

we would suggest the actual header in the script

the head got chopped off

and rolled down the front windscreen

and I didn't wanna do that

and it was always my idea to suggest that

idea of the axe coming up in the backseat

with the lightning flashes

so you do it in three stages like nothing

something oh my god

there's something coming

leave the audience suffer for a couple of seconds

and then pay it off as like yeah

there's a killer in the backseat with an accident

I was really happy oh

look at this shot oh my god

this shot is amazing it is

I put my director's credit over it

yet I didn't direct this shot

this is one of Michael McDonald's amazing shots that he

look we went and pick these things up

while I was in post production

we should mention that

this film was finished in 13 weeks

so we turn the camera off from the last day

and 13 weeks later it's opening in

it's premiering so

we might have even been 12 weeks plus less

that we actually had to finish the damn thing

so I think about five weeks into my editing schedule

Michael said to me

and this is never happened again to me either

that I've saved

enough money for three extra shooting days

the catch is you're not shooting this

you were otherwise otherwise engaged

yeah and it was once again

because Michael shot a lot of second unit photography

in this film will point those shots out

because there's some really spectacular shots

Michael did for me and

Michael went away with a shopping list of things

that I really wanted to to

to to slot into the movie

and to my utter astonishment

came back and they were absolutely beautifully done

executed spectacularly and um

I just kind of

felt like I got a couple of things for free on that

you really saved my um

my bacon

okay here we introduce the cast

the hilarious Michael Rosenbaum

what do you want memories of Michael Rosenbaum

oh my God

that guy was a riot

he just was on all the time and funny

and he knew his shit he really did

he knew a lot about the genre

he's a big fan really is a big genre fan

and he won the role like

you know he came in

known really who he was he was no

he was one of the guys that just

really didn't have a profile

he'd been in the Clint Eastwood movie

midnight in the garden of Good Needle

had a really small role in that

and he um

it just came and lit up the room

I remember Michael

and I just was falling on the floor with laughter

it was so funny and Jared Leto

oh well

future Academy Award winner

future Academy Award winner and rockstar

Jared Leto and his band start yo

he was rehearsed

I remember we had to find Jared a house in Toronto

and we he needed a rehearsal space for his band and um

yeah without Urban Measure

we might have 30 seconds to mop

so

and he took this part seriously

he really oh

he beared and he was terrific in this movie

yeah he's got to deliver a lot of exposition

a lot of dialogue

and he's kind of got a piece of the mystery together

you know there's

there's a lot of

stuff that's a little contrived in the movie

and Jared really makes it work

I think he's like he really pulls it off

you believe that he could be the killer when

absolutely not to give anything away

yeah I'm assuming anyways

listen to this commentary

already seen the movie

do not listen any further cause there will be spoilers

you all learn something

you said from all the interviews

I think you should talk about what you've Learned

just by revisiting well

I Learned I Learned a lot of stuff about the movie

that I didn't know actually

um I

I I came

I came into the the project at a certain point

there was a lot of development that went on

before that happened

and um

you'll see in the in the

in the in the interviews and whatever

on the 2nd District there's um

there's a story that

that took place between Sylvia and junior

and Brad and Nick Osborne

getting this project developed

getting it in front of my middle boy

and I only really came on later in the process

so there's a lot of stuff I didn't know about the movie

um that I went subsequently

I was wondering you know um

in America urban legends are such a common

you know childhood

we all talk about urban legends

is that a big thing in Australia

oh yeah

I knew all these these stories

we call them urban myths in Australia

I was think of a little bit of friends

here at the coffee shop I never really watch friends

but I guess you know

there's only so many ways to stage a coffee shop

sequence I love to like Silvio writing about with Tasha

I'm sorry the terror read character Sasha

the whole idea of love line and then the sex talk radio

exactly 90s exactly

and it was kind of like

a little bit of a call back to the fog

which is my favorite movies of all time

and even the idea of her panicking on the air

and trying to try to help over the air

now here's a massive shot we pulled off under this one

Michael this is a crane on top of another crane

yeah and actually

we clipped the start of the shot

because

Mike Mcnove asked me to move a few sequences around

we actually started way higher than that

and then it came all the way down

um yeah

the old Dean Candy Shop

that movie too is one of the greatest genre depot

greatest DPS period yeah

so Rebecca Gayhart

we should talk a little bit about her

do you remember how she came into the picture Michael

um no

I do remember that she was from Kentucky

she is from Kentucky yeah

she was the Noxima girl exactly yeah

yeah she will

she came in and it was

it was between her and another actress

Rebecca's take on the

it was very crucial that we got that final scene

audition we wanted to see that she can play the

the sweet bubbly best friend and the completely manic

psychotic version of Brenda

and Rebecca just managed to make the whole thing fun

and she kind of kept

the spirit of what I was trying to do with the movie

is it was a little camp but

you know kind of funny

the other actress who was incredible

who's a phenomenal actress who um

who I know quite well um

subsequently didn't get the role

but she did it

so she was so dark and terrifying and real

you believe that you had this single minded focus

to just completely destroy this girl's life

in this the most elaborately complex way possible

and it's just a single little dark

it just it wasn't

didn't have that liberty that I was going for and and

and

Rebecca really had to audition a few times for this

four or five times yeah

yeah she's amazing

she really had to work

here comes another Michael McDonald shot

I think I was um I was down this day

this I'm assuming is Homash the Crazy Ralph perhaps

oh yeah absolutely

who is Crazy Ralph he was in front of your team

he sort of like the classic he's the hobby jury of doom

you're old doomed you're all gonna die

that's my favorite intro oh

beautiful Danielle Harris now this is very clever

turn off the fucking light

oh she was so game what a great girl Marilyn man

supposed to be exactly no

I thought um cause

I knew

Tasha was one of the characters who were gonna waste

early I thought

I wanted to deliberately pick someone who

I didn't wanna see go

and I thought that great little girl from Halloween 4

who survived the killer and chase

and she

she escaped Michael Myers and she saved the day

let's take her out straight away

okay here comes another Michael McDonald shuffle yeah

there we go this is not the actual no

they would never you should tell the story Michael

you went somewhere else for this yeah

yeah we went out in the country and Jamie under the uh

where where we shot the film actually was right

in the middle of the city

and so you wanted it to be a much more remote

isolated than very scarier place

yeah so we needed to go outside of the city

out in the countryside and find a campus from the air

that looked like what you wanted

that's really very specific about what you wanted

we did some scouts and yeah

cause we got scenes in the forest and everything

in the school we needed to establish

that was the environment we're in

um now he's the magnificent Robert England

now he's one of the

one of the best bits of costume we did in the movie um

he walked into the room it was

it was on the casting list that day and I'm like

you don't need to audition

you're a bit English

he read his life like dude

you've already got the pie

let me just confirm that with Mike Metavoy

but yeah Mike was very um

supportive of that casting decision

and it was a great casting decision

because he brought all that fantastic guys

genre baggage from Muttery

Elm Street and everything else that he's famous for

but we played his character totally straight

he's a he's a red herring

but we don't really call out to any of that

past history of Robert

he's wonderful

now those drawings were had to be done for the movie

right all the slideshow stuff

yeah that was done by one of our production designers

I think Charles Bring arrange those things

was it difficult to get the rights to use Pop Rocks

like

is that like a kind of placement you have to clear it

yeah it was and Pepsi for that matter

oh yeah but

the Sony I think

the Phoenix clearance department kind of took that on

and because it was fake and

you know nobody actually died and yeah

urban legend and we sort of proved that

that made it okay to use the actual product

and not some pseudo project

yeah

I didn't really see a lot of Pop Rocks in Australia

but just the other day

before I had jumped on the plane to head to America

I noticed my local corner store was selling Pop Rocks

a girl gave me um

there's a promo in the movie came out at Pop Rocks

like postcard thing with Pop Rocks on

they sent out to journalist

that's right and promoted

it was part of the promotion that they did with it

you know they handed them out at the movies

and the premiere and things

nothing I love about Silvio script is

he does so many plant and payoffs

like here again spoiling the ending

but when Rebecca Gay Hearts character

does her slideshow presentation at the end

I always thought she saw the slideshow here

like there's always little things that always

that pay off later on in the movie

little plants and things like this

love that little bobble there that you kept in

makes it real feels right

I know this from the trailer too

it's got a big laugh in the theater

this is the scene everyone

yeah it was an important scene

we talk a little bit about casting Alicia Wetten

why you chose her and well we

um

I had a different actress in mind for the role

and Neil Maritz was really keen on Alicia

and we should we should meet each other's first choice

and then we'll come back

and we'll reassess the situation

so I went off and met Alicia

and Neil met with the other actress I was thinking of

and we both came back and said no

you were right Alicia

Alicia should be the lead

and he's like well no

you were right James

we should go with the other one

and um

now look

it was it was just so clear to

to both of us

that Alicia was the right to take on this character

and that is the real Mikey

that is a real Mikey

we have a hard time tracking him down

if you remember we didn't know where he was

but we had to find him but to confirm all that stuff

yeah um yeah

I love Alicia she has

she kind of got that Shelley devour quality

from the shine a little bit

she's it's not edgaran

that is Edgar yeah

there is Edgar and Silvio

so egg is on the left

and Sylvia's on the right

and you'll see it sitting put

Michael Rosenbaum shoves a good

because he's just not getting help quick enough

as usual

that was shocked that's like real shock

yeah that wasn't acting

I didn't know that was gonna happen

I didn't know that was gonna happen

no I've determined to put a few of my

friends and family in the movie

you'll see Edgar in this picture

and you'll see my two brothers appear in the movie

later on

did you get your sad card Edgar from this

I had

I did not have a speaking this Sylvia in the background

he out of focus but that's okay

here comes out here

right here we go and

now

thank you very much that was a really good reaction

it's real and I was in the moment actually

his mouth was that real pop rocks

and what he was it was

it's the real thing

that's the real thing got in his eye

yeah I did

I remember we were trying to figure out how to ADR

that little snicker of his

remember that yeah

the trailer person whoever did it added that right

was a success in the trailer

and they were trying to recreate that with Josh

so here

about to introduce Loretta Devine and John Neville

hmm

she's wonderful she

she became an audience favorite in this movie

Loretta Devine um

originally I think they wanted to cast Queen Latifah

if I'm mistaken really

she turned us down Missy Elliot

Missy Elliot yeah

right and um

you know Osborne was a big fan

yeah well

I was never really into that casting idea

and Loretta came in I'm like

now there we go there's Reese

it's interesting yeah

and the incredible John Neville

Robert England talks in his interview about some

just being in order with this man

and just loving to go to lunch with him

and to hear his stories

you know Jared's terrific in this role

I mean we're just really

just such a natural so much talent

you're kind of had your time here with it

with them

all the media and fake news and things like that

yeah well yeah censorship yeah

I'm pleased um

that the the two slasher films that I will

horror films that I made in the um

United States um

in the late 90s kind of um

thank you Reese

they stay hold up in terms of the sexual politics

absolutely you know

even though I've got jokes in the movies

especially Valentine there's some real

there's not many nice guys in there

there's actually no nice men in that movie at all

and um yeah

I just wanted to

to have strong female characters in these movies

and just um

yeah just not

not be exploitative

there's not a lot of nudity in my movies

or anything like that I'm not

I'm not really interested in that kind of filmmaking

that's when I really did start happening in the 90s is

I think people started to realize that

you know audience face movies is not just teenage boys

as teenage girls yeah exactly

well that was a huge chunk of our audience

and here's David Mccarry

reporting live about the arrest of Michael McDonald

you asked me to have one of the cameos and I said no

put my name yeah

and that'll be enough yeah

of course

David Mackie was our first assistant director of

The Great Mac the Great Mac

Mac if you're listening man

big hug to you from all of us

you were amazing and you kept us on schedule

we made this film what it is

and man we really loved working with you

I hope I get the privilege to do that again one day

mate

what's great about all this too

is especially with Silvio script is um

you know as we learn later on

anyone can be a suspects you certainly watch it again

it all works like there's no cheating

yeah

and I like here that there's a nice little moment

once Rosenbaum puts together the fact that uh

it's an urban legend uh

serial call this they just like urban legends

you get a nice just little cut away to Rebecca

it doesn't linger just enough that well

in the second viewing go yeah

she's the pieces are coming together

she's trying to like you know

it's part of the fun is like Washington

who could be the killer looking

how they're looking at each other

as an audience member I'd love that stuff

that was day one yeah

it was that was

that was right before we did the Loretta sequence

yeah I remember in the very first scene we shot um

was a scene with Alicia and Jared and I

and I staged it as a static scene

at the front of a building

I think there's even a shot of what

of that scene in the lobby cards

but we ended up reshooting it and doing it on the move

because I just thought

the film grinds to a halt at that point

Doctor Breen Doctor Breen

so who's the brain should point it out

the production well

Charles Breen yeah

my production designer who is just man

what a what a rockstar he is

I caught up with him yesterday after he

he got hit by a car and tell us the pool bugger

he said he's could use a little lithium

yeah you do the quite a bit at this point

but he had his pelvis shattered

like in three or four places

and he had pins for the so not fun

what a trooper

he came back and did an interview for the Blu ray and

um it was extraordinary

Charles did such an amazing job in this movie

it's um

it's quite extraordinary considering how little

Tommy had to pull it all together

I think we were shooting on sets

and he was literally prepping the next day set

as we were doing it he did

we yeah we were on a very tight schedule

all for our production and post production

even down to Tash painting her side of the room black

yeah that's right

yeah

so this is a sort of stuff that's hard to convey

I hope that like with no dialogue

you just hope that people are gonna make the connection

that yeah

they knew each other

so we try to make it as obvious as possible

drilling for the close up

I like is your final girl is multifaceted

there's multiple layers she's not yeah

she's not completely innocent

uh huh

reckless endangerment haha totally

oh and beautiful Josh Jackson

we should talk a bit about Josh

uh he was in he was in Dawson's Creek at the time

this is it was just starting out his career

and I think what 19 years old Michael

yeah well

he turned 19

yeah one movie yeah

one night I was shooting Second Unit with him

and he turned 19

he had a birthday cake out in the middle of the park

one of the nicest guys I've ever had

the privilege of working with

I mean just an absolute pleasure

about entire cast and crew love this guy

he took the money he made from this movie

I believe and bought his mama house

he's that kind of guy

he also had a good head on his shoulder

oh he's not wise beyond disease

he knew that that his fame was fleeting

and that he was enjoying it at the moment

and he knew that it wasn't gonna last forever

and he straight

he had a hot girlfriend that came to visit us

on the set also

yeah he did

Katie Holmes yeah

went on to greatness yes

and then talk about this yeah

yeah we had to set this up

this is one of the funniest jokes in the movie too

I just had Josh react

so just pretend

the thing that Dawson's Creek popped on the radio

and then j and I before the first preview

we just dropped in the track

and to see how it would work

that moment

tested higher than anything else in the movie

that was the funniest moment

we actually have a line of him saying oh

I can't stand that song we had to cut it out

we had to take that out yeah

yeah

so look at beautiful Jim Chrysantis's lighting here

I mean

it's just gorgeous the way he uses light and shadow and

it's just it's naturalistic

it doesn't feel like fake movie

Blue Night some

some films a little bit to the feel a bit artificial

I mean there this

it's a little artificial but it's

it's gorgeous I just think the way it's lit is um

yeah I was just so impressed to the way Jim

approached the color palette for this movie and

he's a very very talented man

I love Josh you're trying to score

yeah we shot a lot of takes

the other little shot a lot of coverage of this stuff

I just

I knew it was a big moment in the movie

and I wanted the humor to work

and I wanted Alicia to have a few funny moments and

and Josh was hilarious

and she slugs them yeah

sound effect is crunching

it's like jelly on fat fuck yeah

and I remember

there was a lot of controversy about the line

she said you don't have to act like such a bitch

and she's it's not an act

believe me is that the right line

no she does say that

yeah that's what I mean

but is that the right response to the movie

there was a bit of questioning about that

oh yeah

you know it's Matt

no not yet

I think everyone's had this experience in college of

that person tries to you know

I wasn't that cool getting punched

well no it

wasn't

oh

he does his great arch look there

yeah bit of Jack Nicholson shining

where was this film was this near

the university of France

is right near the bridge that we um

we have all right

we have this little valley next to the bridge

we spent a lot of time out there in the dark

did we Michael did

yeah

you spent a bit more time out than any of them I did

you were going back and picking up second unit shots

we should point out how we did that too

and the bridge was so narrow

later on we remember

we had to kind of get the car sideways in there

yeah barely narrow

yeah wide enough to go sideways in there

Chris does a great job with the music here too

no god yeah

he's great with these clusters

they're not really tonal chords or anything

he just uses these string clusters and very

very effective

it look lovely shadow there in the

the fright moment coming up in this one really

really works yeah

this is my yeah

but it's describing what I wanted

and you distract him for a second what

yeah yeah yeah

that one it's all about timing with that stuff

it is so tricky you know

of a frame he is here or there

when that dead body appears in jaws

he shot that in exeded to swimming pool at the time

and they tried it all sorts of different ways

and he tested it with different people

and there was just that one take was like

it just appeared at the right second

and the other great shock in the movie is

in Wexley's office when she just pushes that door open

and just catch that Parker there

and that one works yes

it's all about and it's just the Parker

yeah not a person

there's no action yeah

I wish I had more time to really

just experiment with those scares

and if I was doing this movie again today

I would certainly yeah

this one doesn't quite work for some reason

it's like I tried the same thing

yes

it's a word in the audience mate

it worked in the audience

how do you guys come with a killer's lip

that was I think for the

back when Carnival is described in Silvio script

we wanted a Parker that could

obviously hide the killer's face

we wanted it to be something that we

common enough

that you might see it around the university

now move this thing quite elaborate

and Jim doing some fantastic photography

especially following Josh up into the tree with the

with the crying some beautiful

beautiful photography from Jim

and this is great cause this is really when

she reminds me of Shelly Dewall yeah these moments

no Alicia's just incredibly talented

she was a child prodigy on the piano

and she's now got an amazing music career as well

so yeah

a really gifted lady

I loved who cause this is one of those classic moments

all horror fans love or

yeah well

I remember

one of the things I had to pitch to Phoenix was um

well how to explain that all these things are happening

they require a bit of strength

is how this woman gonna be able to do all this stuff

so well we figure

out a police system and we'll make

we'll attach the rope to the car

and and in this way

makes the actress even more complicit in the death

than everything else and I

was just trying to figure out ways to make this thing

semi plausable I mean it's a horror film no

this stuff could really happen this way

and the killer gets worked in this scene

the killers

gone to a lot of trouble to pull off all the stuff

and she's committed to a thing

and she's gonna stick to it

also she have to make a plausal

because we find out in the end

that she wants her to live

so she doesn't want to kill her yeah

to make it believable that she gets away

that's right she wants her to suffer

Loretta's this is great if the audience love this too

it's amazing in America

I've watched this film in America and in Australia

the Americans cheer when the guns come out

I'm really happy about it

when Alicia locks and loads at the end of the movie

this is massive cheer

it doesn't get that response in Australia

the gun laws there's actually missed up on this

I'm gonna be slightly like political here

and as an Aussie

I just don't understand what is wrong with you

Americans our country

you raise that violence is okay and sex is bad

it's just yeah the remaining system is the way

have you currently got about chocolate coffee

oh well

it was like that was in the scripts that

that specific line of dialogue was mentioned

in the script

I do remember at one point Michael Silvio had a line

you know what behooves me

and we like the sound of the web

it actually didn't make any sense

it's the way you pledge you know

an oath to serve and protect doesn't behoove you

get to change that around remember

yeah the clip from coffee

we had to get the right amount of time and

oh yeah

and we have it on a loop I think so yeah

just keep taking it and taking it

but that

it was a certain loop that we had to ask permission for

yeah and it was that

that scene that you picked

that's right yeah

so here we go here's that little arch look from

from Rebecca when um

when he puts the urban legend thing together

it says one of the tiny sign posts that we have

there's another line earlier in the movie

when Rebecca says oh

come on Nelly

this is half the reason I transferred here

you know so

there's a few little moments where you kinda

get a hint

I didn't want to do the full

you know Mrs

Voorhees

bring it on the audience without any kind of warning

is it have a little bit of

sure had to make sense on some level

who's that person just shows up exactly

paying attention

how much role do the actors have been

picking out their clothes

and their costumes and um

well they are

I mean sure they had a say

but I'll tell you who really made that decision was um

was with MC Hannon Mary Claire and uh

and Neil and Jeannie were very involved in the costumes

and I stayed well out of all that stuff

I'm

no one needs to consult me about fashion

Jamie's wearing sneakers black socks and shorts

I keep it simple Michael keep it simple

I've seen again Tara is adorable

oh I got it

absolutely beautiful and she had done very little

up until she was in The Big Lebowski

she's like the bikini girl

and but she hadn't had a full fledged role

this was kind of it

she's really good in this role

and she's perfect as that character

yeah she's just terrific

now we had to change here

we had to he said they put spider

spider eggs and bubblicious

and we weren't allowed to use the line of the brand

so we had to change that

I remember that that

that that memo they came from yeah

clearance office of where we can

we can never quite get the

the the words to fit in his mouth

you get always notice it when it goes by

Daniel was Killington

that's where you know

Josh should

I would be the characters meant to have gone to

it was Killington used because was that in the script

you remember did we go

that would be the perfect thing you came up with

killing might have yeah

yeah you would have known that

I didn't know that stuff yeah

it might have been Stratton snowboarding

in snowboarding fashion yeah

I love this reveal here

this is the kind of stuff that Jim

and Peter Rosenfeld and I were always seeking to do

trying to find interesting backgrounds

and ways to move the camera that would reveal things

there's so many beautiful parts about university

and I was just trying to find ways to shoot it

that you hate cause it's using a lot of movies

like they made the skulls

a few years later with Josh Jackson

I noticed some of my same shots coming

like this is an example different ways to film things

um it's a little flamboyant

it's a little bit

it's a little bit ostentatious

but I just wanted to show off this incredible location

and I just didn't know any other way to do it in a

in a scope um

frame aspect ratio

where did the name Pendleton come from

that was Silvio's thing

I really wish we'd gotten the Pendle

Pendleton logo in the movie more

because the Latin underneath the crest actually says

the best friend did it give away the

give away the identity of the killer in the crest

but I don't see it that much in the movie sadly

that was

one of the little jokes that the production department

um and I came up with this fun

what a great location this library is

yeah and

here's an example of using foreground and background

I stole this from John Carpenter

did it has it already happened

it has oh well

there you go but that

it looks like Forest Perspective

yeah really great frame

and the Encyclopedia of alleges that

some other book that Charles just mortified

now here's another member that I didn't quite make work

cause I just think I'm not quite close enough for it

yeah and Tara's blonde hairs

it should have been in the shadows a bit more

we should have had a second to think

it could be something else yeah

you don't always get these moments right

but we both you try

you know it's my first movie

you make a few mistakes along the way

I'm actually if I could go back

there's a couple of things I would like to take out

that jumpscare I didn't think that was necessary

and the entire pool sequence

but we can talk about that later

but the very first shot of the pool sequence is

one of the most oh

no no

no with their goggles

when you see her beautiful

beautiful so you're right

it doesn't serve the story

but yeah it does look good

yeah pretty

yeah come and move you

those illustrations

but they're very effective and there's a nice style

to them

I wish I had some lithographs or something

and be really nice

I love it because most in horror movies special

this fans love there's always like

the scene where they go to the library

they go to them up the microfiche machine yeah

this is our version of the microfiche machine

nowadays it's hard to do that and then yeah

just knows about you can do it on your iPhone Google

yeah

I'm dating I'm dating myself just saying micro facial

yeah

no but you're my vintage Peter

we remember all that stuff

you and I have strong aficionadas of the 80s

slasher wave and there's many

I mean I could all of them

I own all of them

I had them on I had them on multiple formats yeah

I'm a tragic but I'm a completist

and I do occasionally like when I'm

I can't get to sleep at night

here we go

he's not talking about dating the movie social media

hmm well

like you say use computers

it's gonna date the movie

as soon as you use a computer yeah

God forgot but actually

you know PCs is still pretty ugly and clunky

yeah it's definitely on a Mac but again

I mean that's overstated

I mean it is ahead of its time

I mean now people meet online

I mean yeah that's true

I love that there's no cell phones though

in these movies

actually I did have a cell phone in Valentine

right at the very end

but they weren't as ebiquitous as they are now

I just saw Charles bringing the name on it

yeah yeah yeah

that was the prop department

because we go into the prop truck every night

and drink Yeager shots

yeah beautiful Danielle

now this is what

another thing that I'm guilty of in both of my movies

I think I sometimes tend to rush my shock moments

you know now

now I would take a lot more time with this stuff

and build a lot more atmosphere um

you know it's just I looked at

looking back at this stuff a little bit

I didn't quite get the timing right with that stuff

and that's no one else's fault but my own

it's just I was a rookie director um

but you learn this stuff you know

and you um it's really the only way you can go about um

getting any better

love to those so I remember being a fan

it was so great to see another horror movie

set at a college campus yeah

I wanted to do a campus session

cause

I'm trying to think the last time we had a campus slash

it was a long time ago the house of sorority row yeah

I'm 83 yeah

it must have been well

it was like a scream to the initiation was yes

that was one

but I was in the better being the Malta mostly it was

you're right scream to was kind of yeah

yeah the most recent rush week

I don't think that was the name of that character

but just say that one

was it like Bitchy Girl or Bitchy Girl yeah

Elvira is raising more than the dead in there yeah

oh I love you Daniel Harris

she's so good in this movie

and I'm sorry I had to kill you off so quickly

but it was just that thing on it's a character that um

I think horror fans would expect this

it's gonna stick around a little bit longer

and I was just trying to surprise people

as much as I could

within the conventions and the tropes of the genre

you know but this is a very effective sequence

cause of the way Silvio set it up

so I'm very happy with the way this turned out

and she played it so well

those screams are just ambiguous enough

that you can't quite tell

is it just rough sex play or is it something else

and she's like no

I'm just gonna drown it out as I always have to do

I know it's maybe it's a little you know

stretching real stretching reality

but I mean we go to college

you always stuck with that horrible roommate

everyone absolutely semester yeah

yeah never

there we go

that suggestion of the shadow moving across

was actually from Andrew Mcgarrien

who came up to help us on the movie

he suggested that I have the shadow move across

it was a great idea that was a great idea

oh she's such a beautiful girl isn't she stunning

there she is oh

I felt terrible doing this to poor Alicia

cause she wakes up and

discovers the worst possible thing well

at least you got a new roommate and true

I remember when I remember wanting to do

for some reason this sequence

I wanted to do something with the crane

that I wasn't able to do because for some reason

the camera department was striking or something

they were on strike this day

there's something happened they said no

we're not gonna set up a crane for you I'm sorry Jamie

we love you

but we're not gonna give you that shot today

was it an overtime thing or something like that

and there's a hockey game on TV

and Canada want to know why

so we had to do it this way

I revealed it but it's a compromise

it wasn't the way I was gonna reveal it

but it works

it works and then you see it you look what is it

and she moves out Bam and yeah

so yeah it's it's not the end of the world

but I did have a nicer way of revealing that plan

but better check her pulse

she's looked for that for years bitchy girl

thank you bitchy girl

the moment

great in horror movies that you need that comic relief

right after a scare yeah

it's a really good balance

this is a kind of shot that was really dumb

fun to try and set up it's like a lot of business

it's a master shot we reveal this

we come over here reveal Jared

he motivates the next part of the move

I hadn't done much of that pride of this movie

and I was I was really interested working with my uh

assistant director David Makery

setting up all that background action

to try and make it into

I wanted to try and do some shots in the movie

that were single takes that weren't work cut

cut cut

cut um yeah

so yeah

whenever possible I was trying to make that happen

there's also a funny stuff

that I didn't really notice until like

we were editing the movie

it must have been in silvioscript

but everyone wants to grab Natalie and go and talk

notice that oh

come on Natalie

you wanna go somewhere and grab a coffee and talk

it happens two or three times no

did you know now

Dean Adams is suspiciously trying to pass this officer

tragic suicide

I thought that when I was a child the first time

and maybe he was in a plot

like there's more than one killer

I think that was I think that was Silvio's intention um

but I always thought Reese's reaction was a little bit

too um

towing the towing the line

you know so I thought

her character

would have been a little bit more suspicious

or looking for a bit more action

adventure to try and get involved in

so

yeah that's the only time

I think Reese's motivation to be off

another tracksuit yeah

another person wants to go and grab a coffee and talk

is that urban legend that if your roommate dies

you get straight A's or something right yeah

all right yeah

actually he's

another moment we

Rebecca's hair is curly

we straightened it for most of it

that was my memory too

but then when I just watched this recently

her hair was curly all the way through

when I didn't have time to straighten it off

to the motor you know

yeah no

but she pulls it back a lot

but we never actually straightened it that much right

um you know

in the very end when she reveals

let it go the killer

she went crazy here's the scene that we reshot

so the very first day of shooting

I had a version of this that was too static

so I wanted to try and uh

restage this

you have graciously allowed me to reshoot this sequence

Michael and just get a little bit more momentum going

so we have to have to pause for this moment

but we um yeah

we broke it up with a bit more movement

Jared's terrific again as usual

really solid ask you a couple questions

yeah so here we go

we get the camera on the move of it

I kind of love to see

kind of combines the gay Weather's character with the

you know potential killer boyfriend character

yeah

and he was terrific cause he never really overplayed

one of my favorite scenes with Jared's when uh

later in the movie when she comes to his

his apartment and he checks the phone

he's like hey Natalie

I told you the phone was dead

and we did that

that was one of the occasions were able to do a long

continuous shot and um

hey Joe just really pulled it off every time when I saw

you can suspicion on him

like maybe doing all this for his reporter that's right

it wasn't a suicide Paul

what are you talking about

beautiful location yeah

I mean it's we

Michael and I we walked the campus

actually we walked the campus in the snow originally

and then we would you can sneeze

I was dressed like this and I was hilarious

I am

I just remember walking around with Michael just like

where can we shoot more what about this

what about this scene and we just yeah

we thought it was a square

square meter with that campus we left untouched mate

we explored the whole thing

now this might have been

was this one of your scenes

I think this is yeah

this is the one a lot of stuff in this

in this office you

you took over that day hmm

you don't believe me either

that's not what I'm saying it's just that yeah

I went down one day on this on the on the on the shoot

this is right towards the end of the schedule and um

I needed um

Michael to take over business for me and um

you did a great job man

you and Jim get the start of the movie happening

for me consistently framed

and yeah it's nice

is it harder in a horror movie to do daylight scenes

to make it interesting cause um well

it's yeah I kind of just trust him with how he's gonna

it's always hard to balance

outdoor light with indoor light

it requires a lot of light indoors cause you gotta yeah

you gotta match the exposure

and so I think on a technical level

it probably do

we pump light in those windows during the Michael

we were we pumping light inside

you know gym

so clever doing that stuff

and

he's always trying to find a bit of light and shadow

and you see yeah

oh sorry

my scratching my microphone sorry

okay

oh here we go

the classic janitor

cost suspicion on the creepy janitor see

I contributed this line yeah

tell me too damn long too damn long that was me

I use that line all the time when people say

how long you and your wife been together

too damn long

two 74

huh

that's weird this is very hard to stage this sequence

it's quite interesting framing

as we come over here to reveal the janitor

amount of awkward imagine because

if you're on stairs it's hard

you have a lot of room right

yeah

this is short when he come

we shoot him through the stair

the slots in the stairs and it's just kind of awkward

so he was a Brit this actor living in Canada

I'm not sure but um

here we go usually shop is he's he was local there yeah

he was local but he had a British accent

he's wonderful oh

it's incredible

I remember we flew him up to do an ADR session

that made a voice urging to go boo

is easy is the easiest job he's ever had

he appeared in a couple other movies

the claim that Michael Winterbottom is in

the great franchise

and then the Kevin Costner Western Open Range

cube that's right

cube is right this is a good scare coming up I think

Charles director I directed this room beautifully

some some of it was there

but I know he did a lot of work to the room

to make it look like this

to make it look interesting

yeah he's one of the better um

stingers in the film

when Alicia goes up to that cabinet

cause it's all about timing again

I had first you open the the

the first door you open out to reveal something inside

and then you

the next door goes in and you pay off the shock

cause people often

expecting things to happen in threes

so you try and surprise them one

2

it's like the Jack in the box kind of thing

and then you leave that one open

because we need that to pay off later

and boom

and that really good that was a good chair jumper

that one

what did you talk about timing

like the terror read scare before

in the libraries that you did

too quick this one you actually hold

it's all exactly it's all about timing

it's like comedy

you look at it from like

James Wan is a master of stage in these things

he really figures out

exactly the right way to scare you

and make you scream I mean really clever at that

so yeah this um

there's a real lot to doing this stuff properly

what was like to have Robert ing on the say

was he like so the elder statesman to all the younger

Robert was for me I was just

my inner 15 year old was completely freaking out

just at the side of him

and I mean he's just a wonderful guy

he remember my little brother's never forgotten

Robert tapped him on the shoulder between the

between setups he's like

come on kid let's go grab a hot dog

and we went over and saw Robert yesterday at his house

um and I've got a photograph of my 15 year old son uh

Molly uh

in a headlock with Robert

and it's just the most gorgeous thing

and my kid had the greatest day of his life

hanging out with Robert England

we we have a Freddy Krueger pinball machine uh

at home and we brought the backing thing off

we we unscrewed it from the machine

and brought it all the way over to Robert's house

and Robert's written something like that

till this fucker

signing it on his own Freddy Krueger pinball machine

the exact clone of the one we

the one we had so uh

he's a beautiful man and one is a genre icon

I don't know many pop culture icons

I really only know one and he's um

he's a great great guy

and um I'm just so grateful

I had the opportunity to work together with him

he's told me I was waiting for you to call

I just imagine

I'll be working with Jamie for the next five years

and you fucked off back to Melbourne's

so funny because Robert England

Robert England looks so young here because 20 years ago

but I saw the time he seemed so old

yeah yeah

I know a truly wonderful gentleman

now John Neville to an incredible actor

but unfortunately the last day of filming with John

didn't go quite smoothly we'll talk about that later

which was lucky but that beautiful lighting

yes I like and that's gorgeous

I've always loved the lighting in the scene

so you do it you don't let people flat

you know it looks like a soap opera

you've always got to have a highlight

got to give it a kick from the side

that's also very intense

he definitely took the character seriously

oh yeah

I think Jared takes everything very seriously

doesn't really half hearted

well it was a lot of fun on set to

he had his he's got his

he's got a fun side as well

this is a big day with a crowd

yeah I remember there was

there was a lighting platform and I'm like

forget the light I wanna put a camera up there haha

so at the end of the scene

when Jared walks away from her

um that was the original

the lighting platform that we had or something

there was a big bit of scaffolding

I'm like that's where my camera is gonna end the scene

so um

whenever possible

I was just trying to give a sense of scope

in size to the movie and the locations

so he walks away we go

but you're right I got lots of

that's the shot I was talking about

yeah

doesn't really fit in the movie that was made of voice

and we go swimming that's why this is your favorite

favorite scene right

this is the last day of filming

and it's the one scene in the movie that I really

I mean Rebecca did an incredible

job learning how to do the tumble turns

there's Charles

bringing in the background there with his satchel

um yeah

all his photography is beautiful

um I just don't like the scene

I just don't think it fits in the movie

but it looks great and there's another news broadcasts

what do you think the problem Melbourne

because somewhat more wouldn't be registered

so in Congress

that you would have that woman come down

and just slowly unzip

it just seemed like really milking suspense for the

for the sake of throwing

we understood the point of the scene

I just never quite felt that we executed the idea

look at this

look at this turn that she did a great time for real

yeah I made sure I kept it in the movie

but he looked

and as bright daylight to

the killer shouldn't appear in bright daylight

for starters yeah

it's like I wanted the scene to be at night

but it's like yeah

how hard was it to make sure

you couldn't see the face of the stuff

I was just wearing a ski mask or something

the eldest stuff it just feels so forced and

the way they're walking

why would that girl be wearing those shoes exactly

none of it makes

none of it made any sense to me on the day

and it was just like it's

this is the last day of shooting and shooting the sink

I did the best I could with it

I tried to make it interesting and but it's like yeah

I mean I understand the idea why it was there

but I just made that show you off of Rebecca certainly

yeah side I just wish we could have cut straight here

you know and didn't figure that

and figured out a good in point for this sequence

were there other deleted scenes

there was one scene there was

all the deleted scenes revolve around

a dog that was supposed to cough up a finger

there was a sex scene with sort of

a tease between Tara and Michael Rosenbaum

and then the idea was

hoodie was supposed to come up and cough up a finger

and I asked animal trainer at the start of the day

now I'm gonna shoot a whole sequence

leading up to this moment

are you sure

this dog's gonna be able to cough the finger up

oh yeah no problem

it didn't unfortunately and I would

one of the few days

I got very cross at the end of the day

cause I just wasted a whole day

and I could have been shooting into it

so I could have been doing anything else

except that scene

which I always thought was kind of a dumb payoff to

like it it's just not scary

a dog covering up a fake finger

and then later on Michael Rosenbaum

at the scene with the girls are just walking down the

uh

the gym

he originally popped out with the finger to scare them

it was just another

moment to reintroduce Parker into the story um

which we ended up cutting

because the finger wasn't a part of the um

I guess we could have left it in

he could have just been pranking them

but we decided we didn't need it

Jim did a great job with that pole

that's flashback see

that's the bleach bypass process that you and all

everything's off and yeah

well he

he did that to the negative

so

it wasn't like we had an option to go back and undo it

he literally did he didn't want to go down a generation

lose quality so

we did that to the negative

in the processing at the lab

which is a big call had to do some tests

and figure out just how much bleach bypassing

just how much light but I love it

it's got kind of like a Robert Richardson feel

Oliver Stone kind of JFK feel

still more Zigwin man

yeah yeah

it was with those halos

yeah light blooms like that

but I thought it was a good

Jim and I really wanted to give this scene a different

um visual style to the rest of the movie

because it was a flashback in

they're like memories memories are kinda weird things

you remember things you don't

you don't you don't remember the sequence of events

you remember moments and we wanted to kinda

treat it like that I remember

having a lot of discussions about how we gonna

approach that sequence

I'm sure it wasn't intentional but um

her hair and that flashback is all curly

like Rebecca Gay yeah

yeah we wanted to just make it really

make it look a little different and sort of tight

to get a little bit but it wasn't um

here we go here's the

here's the thing

that Michael Rosenbaum was reaching in her appearance

you can see in the trailer

he pops up between the two of them and the finger

there was just another cheap scare that I

that I was happy to drop unless of course

I hook up with some cute little blue eyed journalist

then

this was shot on the camp

of the same locations as the Police Academy movies

that's right well

Stanley Hall

the derelict building is the Police Academy

if you watch some Police Academy movies

it's hilarious because it's like

we turned it into a spooky building

this is another Michael McDonald scene

ready

and where did that still come from

I guess that came from Robert Zakav

you did I still have that newspaper

yeah I funny cause you gave it to me

I actually read it it's actually a real story

someone took the time to write that old story

yeah that's right

I'd like to read that one

that's yeah

I scanned it in so we can share it on the Blu ray

yeah I remember you

you had to do all the stuff

there we go don't tread on me

remember that Michael that was your call

yeah this is John Neville's infamous last scene

yeah well

we should

we should tell this story cause it's pretty funny

but John rest his soul is no longer here

but um

I had so much respect for this man

and so grateful to him

that he was appearing in my little section movie

but unfortunate script required him to crawl

obviously along a concrete car park

uh and he did to do that for several hours

understandably we had knee pads and

but understandably he's a little over it

then to kept the scene off

he gets run over by the parking piles

in these parking spikes

and we had a Mercedes that was raised up on roll

with a real real car

real heavy car parked over the top of him

uh he's literally trusting his

his life in the hands of my special effects department

and we had an overhead camera that was so it was

it hid the it hid the um

perspective and then we reveal

we reveal John underneath the car

impaled on the parking spikes

and I've called cop

and Jim Chrysantis is yelled out from the top

hold him down we're crashing in many

he's swinging a lanes to get a close up

and Trump stood up and said

fuck you all I'm leaving

the next day the next day

the camera crew all turned up with t shirts

on the front hold them down by crushing in on the back

fuck you while I'm leaving

was this the reference of pet cemetery

I was thinking pet cemetery

oh yes but I didn't tell anyone

oh

really that but I shot it very similar to bits immature

but yeah

it's an awful Peter Brackey you're amazing you sir

I forgot that I did that but yeah

what such an awful thought

I mean times it is hard when

when judge league leagues of slash it is the tenant

yeah I didn't want to make a graphic

but it's just it's visceral yeah

feel it you know it's

now this was actually um

this wasn't in the sky

I can't remember how Dean Adams originally died

but this was one of those things that Don Roos came up

when he did his part that's correct

his credit to Dawn yep

it's a great original kill um

the slicing of the Achilles tendons is yeah

the killers under the car

so this is how we paid okay

now I probably wouldn't have yeah

yeah that's that was unnecessary

it was I think it might have been my idea

and it was unnecessary

is that lighting CGI well

the light

the lighting on the front of the house is real

as your brother and the sky

it is my brother Tim

the boss and the and the lighting in the sky is cg

so it's kind of early days cg yeah

we got away with some nice stuff

no animals were harmed no

and we were everyone loves Hootie

no animals my parents actually they

they they had a dog

um actually

my brother had a dog there's my other brother Ben

he had a dog and he named the dog Hootie

we had him for years

I love this guy too well

he's gonna great stuff this is a series on YouTube

you should all look it up

it's called The Truth in advertising

and he plays the director in this thing

definitely look out he's hilarious

it's the most definitely check it out

truth in advertising is a whole series of them

look at her absolutely

yeah that's great

see you dude

Ben gets a lot of screen time

yeah but well

Jake kept coming back to him like

are we allowed to do that

he's he's

is this supposed to be like a costume party

yeah it was like the massacre bash

that's right happy anniversary

yeah

yes this is

it was an attempt to do some extended

continuous takes here

but I ended up having to go to coverage various reasons

there's one survivor that night loves you

because that's something you do when you're a teenager

in college you know

you kind of laugh it

well you know

I think as you get older

you would never have a party to commemorate a massacre

no you're a kid

you that's right well

Jay Cassidy

and this sequence taught me a great deal about um

storytelling originally

the the scene start off with Jared

talking about this stuff about Wexler

and it was all kind of elaborate

and kind of expository and Jay said to me like

there's one way to fix this Jamie

you take the line from later on in the sequence

it makes perfect sense

which was the end of the whole explanation

and you put it up first like it makes perfect sense

and then you tell the story and it's like well

of course it makes perfect sense

they already told us that it makes perfect sense

and that was Jay's idea and it was

he showed me both ways and it was like

it was clear that this year little change was

was very effective

it's interesting cause you know

Jared like a lot of young actors

they try to make their character unique or quirky

but Jared played this character completely straight

oh yeah

boy next door he didn't try to make them weirder

no he wasn't trying to make him suspicious yeah

I think he understood we talked about it

it was like England he didn't have to be out yeah

he's a suspect automatically

and the less you point to it

the more people are gonna think it's him

and what they think they're gonna outsmart you

and if you if you give them a little sign

person indicator indicators that's gonna happen um

they're too smart for that

you don't waste any time do you Natalie

Brenda Light

so the first hint of trouble in the friendship

Sylvia did a nice job of setting all this stuff up

I love the shop beautiful piece before ground there

at all real rain I've made a film subsequent to this

called Storm Warning where

where a lot of the rain was was digital

this was all done practically

there was not a single digital rain shot

in this entire movie

and here's where Mike made a voice

suggested brilliantly that we um

have the janitor go boo and it was costly boo

the costly boo haha

genius but I love the lighting in this sequence too

it's really effective

and it's kind it's kind of old school horror

but it's got a little bit of you know

sort of well what was like at the time

but you know taste change

but

I also love the fact that this is actually

originated on 35 millimeter yeah

well you can see some of these anymore

you know has a richness and adapt to it

yeah I'm doing all this stuff

it was a really fun now

this is one of the hardest things you can do

in a movie I think

it's at the sequence is show the absence of something

you know

when you wanna show that something is missing you know

unless you're in a tool shed and they've all got the

got the silhouettes of the tools

and one's not there or something

it's very hard to show the absence of something

and we have to do that here

and maybe in this sequence where she opens

and there's no axe

and I'm hoping that the audience can remember that

there used to be an axe there

so it's yeah

there's those the kind of moments where it's um

do I show the exit here yeah

that's where that's where we should

that's where it was right

so it's yeah

it's

it's almost impossible to show the absence of something

and Halloween too a little bit here

yeah that was

that was definitely yeah

that was definitely a cool back

yeah nerd

and I love getting over stuff

it's great the guy that I made this video for

I love it though because it's not obvious like

you know some

you see movies and there's such an obvious homage

you're like really

I just wanted to do it's kind of up the cuff yeah

sort of not make a big deal of it

but just it's there if you notice it's

let me guess Rosenbaum's greatnessy

I never forgot what he's supposed to be

seems to be a pirate or what's his costume

there's some fantastic costumes in this thing

I remember I remember

there was a couple that was so good that I just like

you've got to get out of frame because it's

called something's gonna become a scene about a hat

or something

Stewart's living

let's get a really hot story oh

I love the lighting here

there's also a similar sequence in my picture

Valentine that was shot by Rick Motor

who's incredibly talented and just a dear friend

they both

just made these party sequences look fantastic

and pop and multiple layers of lighting

and yeah they're beautiful

it's really easy to overdo this stuff

much harder to kind of bring it into the zone way

where it works just nicely

and you guys did a great job

you have a favorite favorite urban legend in the film

oh definitely the killer in the backseat yeah

definitely I'm gonna go get some help

that was I mean you you are as a director

you only get one chance to experience the movie

as the audience that's when you first read the script

and that one was just like yeah

that that's great that that really paid off

they got me excited to keep turning the pages

of Silvio's script to me so talented

that whole sequence plays like a small

little movie night so yeah

it is like the movie mini movie with me I love the yeah

the graveyard here and

who is she

she's the I guess she's Sasha's assistant

on a hickey here's an extra that day

Rosenbaum's favorite scene in the movie this stuff

he loved doing all this and I decided cause he's drunk

I'm gonna shoot it handheld

that's like I'm not don't normally use handheld camera

I use it very sparingly in my movies um

but this scene seemed appropriate to use it

because it just putting putting the camera on rails

just wouldn't have been right

you know it just um

so maybe it would have been

I just chose to do it as a as a drunken slur wobble

this is only seen as a cell phone in it correct

pretty much what's actually not even a cell phone

that's a that's a girl phone

cordless for how they look like

that's what they look like

was this at all Daniels out there

it's a cordless phone

so I was worried that I didn't get Edgar

my brother in enough so is that you again

it was me in the background

yeah it was only in the

in the because Ben got all those close UPS as the DJ

sort of my other brother get in the movie enough

so I put him in the senior again

push lambs team out the way

that was me I did a stunt

yeah

hazard pay for that

he's not he's always getting pushed around by Rosenbaum

he's the famous some telescopic lens shove that

we took the back of a microwave off

it's a little bit evil did too or something this one

haha that's great

also that that you know

he was always making fun of death earlier in the movie

now he cares exactly and I mean

there was a campaign on the

on the internet when this movie came out

to send me to hell because I really hate the dog of it

you understand

I didn't really microwave the dog right you people

oh and that one too

we we had to figure out how we went from uh

Michael being uh dragged in there

and then all of a sudden being tied up

and I remember coming up with Jay

we come up with a solution of going to

those little fades

so we just do a little bit of time cut um

which seem to work

I'd be very unpleasant way to die

yeah and there's me ripping off any Holland

from what we know it's really good

yeah it's

this is the first thing you ever shot right

in the movie this is the very first scene that we shot

that's actually in the movie

so right after the scene that we re

that we redid

that we pointed out before we went to the white shop

that eager pointed out then we went to Loretta

so Loretta is the first

actress that I've ever directed in motion pictures

like that actually appears in the movie

and she's so great

this is a scene after like

I think

7 or 8 months that I was finally reunited with my um

my fiance came to sit this night

that's right this is what Simone right

yeah I remember turning around and she was there

he's my little homage though

Halloween to again called a homage again

yeah

sure we

yeah

he was really good too it was terrific

I love the set to all the glass

another example where I should have paid it off

with a bit more than pace

that just happens too quickly

does something happens in the editing or something

the way you shot no

I think it was the way I shot it I

I I had a kinda look and then scream

I didn't really

I should have had more of appearing around the rhythm

looking and seeing the guy

while he's supposed to be there

he's not there and then flash of lightning

and there's the Parker that

that's the way I should have done it

he is really almost killed for um

Tara Reed I love took a nose off

why mother

you know the old school yikes

oh man

and he's Michael McDonald shot that I love

yeah it's coming out

just came in Russia's I'm like wow look at that

fantastic never seen that thing

no that's it also did

the master shot coming up that I remember

yeah I mean

Michael's in a lot of great stuff in his sequence

this is really the movie kind of

the third acts really kind of kicks in right

this is Chris Young's favorite section of the movie too

right there that's up

yeah my beautiful

it's a action movie from here on

yeah

a little bit extra

this stuff was that great

should your own stuff you can do all of the storyboards

and then you get on location

you go forget yeah

we have to adapt to what we have

exactly the whole sequence

we really got a lot of coverage

and we did a good job on this is

the swing of the ax at the fingers is scary over here

to totally you can all relate to that

yeah yeah

yeah yeah

beautiful cutting and work that nicely

and the voice that she makes that painful

oh are terrific

is great even my shots up through them yeah

I mean that's just awesome

we really got the value out of this location true

now I

I must confess I I

I did do the like 4 towers

character does go up

when she should have been going down

yeah and scream

but this another Halloween to moment with an elevator

yeah exactly

why do the killers always walk so slow yeah

no one really knows Michael

just go with it just go with it

taunty yeah

seriously

I guess she got this is real man

oh she's great though

she's really good and you shut all that stuff

that's when he was shots Michael

with the rain no

that was you no

no it's with Tara

oh the Tara

yeah running was

any chance to be having the rain

I was yeah

there's no whole big out there

yeah

any yeah

this is a little bit of a dealer

hocking back to the fog with her

with her crying for help over the air

you know

it's always like this and carry a wireless

wireless mic yeah

do we have those in those days actually

well we do now

she had a Walkman she had a Walkman

that was a radio oh

they had those oh

they did

that's what the girl picking up in the car was for

she's just feeding cable

there she is she's got her headphones on

she's listening to it

the broadcast crisp and clear stereo yeah

this is quite brutal I always felt sorry for Sasha here

let's think about the end of this

I don't wanna die oh

that's terrifying image it's the last thing you see

oh yeah

the last wing is gnarly that one

yeah with that sound that pair Holberg put in there wow

I mean

as far as the movie as you do care about the character

you don't want to see you do

I mean I didn't want it

I didn't want the audience cheering

for any of them to die I mean

there's Friday pathetic movie you written for Jason

everyone's like come on

kill the next one I didn't want that in this film

I want people to be genuinely upset

now here's a great example

we were able to do a continuous shot

follow all the way down bang

bang bang

follow all the way back is Jared

well again

somebody does a great job

because we just see the killer now here

that's right exactly

he's attached it's a good mention of pair

Halberg and Karen Baker of the amazing Sound Out

incredible Academy Award winning sound team

that Jay brought onto the project

did it unbelievable job

in spending that short amount of time

I got to spend on the sound stage with him

was some of the happiest days of my life

it was so exciting

seeing the film come together like that

that one little shot of Paul

Jared shaking his yeah

when he's gone terrific

it sells so much storage to name

the suspicion of him is also so

shocked me that

the amount of work

the art department did to this apartment

this dorm room and it was in such a short yeah

it really looks incredible what they've done

I mean we had a crack team

we really did that typewriter back there and

yeah we should just also talk about like the the

the the camaraderie and the team spirit on this movie

at just a tiny bit because there was such a

I don't know

you guys have all worked on different movies and I

so have I but I've never really had an experience

like I did with the with the

the gang on Urban Legend and then

I don't know was with

it was my first movie or it

was just that mix of personalities

whatever it was but man

everyone was just pulling the same direction

and I just love I mean I

I see so many things when I watch this movie

I definitely don't see what an audience sees

like it's kind of like watching home movies for me

or something you know

and I just remember a great time

we had a great team we really did

I'm not stuck he is

I'm not stuck he is

I'm not stuck we got

we got Jay to just loop that line from the radio show

it's just kinda weird

there's definitely a sense of enthusiasm

you can tell everyone's having fun making a movie

there's a lot of innocence

there's no

there was shadedness yeah

I mean

some people thought the film was a bit of a cynical

cash in on screen I can assure you

there was nothing cynical at all

about the making of this movie

that we were all completely into it

we um yeah

we just we just

we gave it everything we had

and I am I'm so proud of the movie

I'm so proud of everyone who worked on the film

and then the incredible job that they did

and I just feel like at 26

just remember thinking

I'm the luckiest kid on the planet

I'm doing exactly what I always hoped I'd be doing

with people that I couldn't even have conjured up

yeah people that was just so supportive

so fun um

we we were we

we had fun onset and offset

and everyone just got along great

there was no

there was no personality problems on this movie

and you know

I try to always have a happy set

as

I think people do their best work when they're happy

and I certainly sure like do my best work when I'm

when I'm feel supported and no

um everybody's on the same page

and we've communicated the ideas clearly

and there's no I hate miscommunication

that's my biggest

miscommunication

is responsible for so many of my friends

like divorces or problems

it always comes down to poor communication

if you can communicate properly

then we are in the business of communication

you can you can pretty much solve anything with

with clear communication I don't you think absolutely

I absolutely do yeah

and I try to do the same thing

and people are so guarded

and don't wanna say this about that

and you just sit as a producer

you sit down and go okay

YouTube had an issue let's sit down and talk about it

why why did you have that problem

you did that all the time

yeah I also wanna add that

this was the only movie I work with

the producer did not raise his voice once

it was a great set no one

there wasn't any loud yelling or anything

everyone was on the Michael

you approach the whole thing with a gravitas and just

you were just a cool guy about everything

there was never anything that rattled you when you just

you always have my back

I always felt your voice felt protected

I felt protected from interference or

or any aspect of the production that could have like

derailed me a little bit or taking me off my game

um you

you you

you sort of shielded me I was

I was the old dude down the set

you were like a uncle my interview

you were like my my

my older brother that I just um

that I never had on the eldest of three

you were like my older bro

and I just knew the veteran man

and knew what the hell they were doing haha

yeah you know

they go ahead and fucking clue what we're up to

haha dipshit

take the lens cap off haha

you this is what you do

um really pretty shots in here too

oh I love you

the rushes this is my

this is my wife's favorite sequence from the movie

she loves the show I love this part of the score

and this yeah

this cause she loves the score as well

it's beautiful Chris is just

but we should talk a little bit about yeah

young because he's just look

one of the few times in my life

you know you get your first and

and only pick

cause when we were looking at crew and stuff

there are other options we yeah

I fell in love with the people I hired

but for me there was

I didn't wanna hear other composer scores

even though we're getting bombarded with things

for me at the time

it had to be Christopher Young or bust

yeah he was a guy

I said this in the interview before

but he

I was listening to him as I went to sleep at night

listen to Dream Lover and just thinking about the movie

and it was like I was almost dreaming

like with his music score in the

in my head and I just um

you played that for me he said

this is yeah

this is the opening I played it to Brad

I played it to Michael it was it

you guys just

this is how I see the opening in the movie

it's not dark and scary it's

it's kind of beautiful it's

it's eerie but it's not

it's not a horror score it's right

it's something more than that

it's great and a crazy connection is that

20 years before this movie got made

Chris was in my band in college

which he was a drummer

yeah he was a drummer and a brilliant drummer

and just a he's a genius

he's an extraordinary genius

and I think I mean

there's this definitely

group of people have worked with Chris

who understand how spectacular he is

and he's called Spider Man for Sam Raimi

he's got in the gift

he's worked with some really incredible directors

and I just wish he was scoring more stuff

more big stuff

and I think anyone out there listen to this

consider Chris Young for your score

because he's still out there man

he's like one of the best there is

and he's one of the true classic composers

and don't don't you know Peter Anthony's well

Michael is the a buddy of yours yeah

the pre eminent orchestrator conductor in Hollywood

yeah and he has been for years and years

did this movie for Chris good work for Chris

and James Newton Howard started off with those

and the Anthony and I play Frisbee together

ultimate Frisbee every Sunday

I'm just gonna go to my social circles like

who do we got who do we got who can hook me up with

you should also mention that Chris Young knows

the first movie he did in his new studio right

and then you just party yeah

well this is an amazing story

well it was amazing to me but um

twenty years ago uh

we Michael and I

our first session with Chris was in his small

little studio

and he played us some themes from the movies

so next time we meet up here's the new address

and we came to his new studio

and that was the first picture he did uh

in the in that place now 20 years later

when I came back to LA

only for two weeks to help put this Blu ray together um

we went back to see Chris at his studio and um

he was informed that tomorrow night

is the last night of the uh

he's moving to another space

and he's having a big going away party

and the last thing he did for the

in the studio was record an interview for the Blu ray

for Urban Legends we book ended that era in his life

and he singled Michael and I out of the party

so they were tapped his glass and you know

raise a toast to the two of us

and I don't know Michael I was like I felt really good

it was really touching yeah

yeah this is great

that's the audience love that the Americans

when they pull out the gun

they will look crazy crazy laughing

I remember Loretta told us that

she didn't know how to handle a gun

so she was sort of like fumbling with that thing

yeah what to do

yeah that'd be me

in that truck accident just oh

here we go here we go

this is your shot Michael yeah

yeah the blue

the blue sorry

I just had a brain fade for a second

this is your amazing shot that I love

and then you can do the beautiful crane up

exactly as I would

wives see is exactly as you told me to do it

well I remember right

right

but we're in sync at this point right

yeah absolutely great

now I love the lighting here that Jim did for the um

for the interior of this building

we should talk a little bit about how this

stuff happened yeah

so we needed we had two buildings

we had the frat house

and we had this derelict building

and we needed to shoot them uh

we need several days at night

but it was just not

gonna be logistically possible to actually

do all night shoots

because we only had six hours of darkness

at that point in uh

in in the Toronto summer so our

our

gaffers and groups came up with this audacious plan

to tent to three story buildings

or four story buildings whatever they were

with top Hollands and blacks in downtown Toronto

in downtown Toronto

so we lit it was literally like we were

we were spraying for two months

two giant properties

and we were just in perpetual darkness

and they made the tents big enough

so we could stick our lightning arcs

and our and our HMIS

and all the lights

we needed out the window to get these shots

so this is the middle of the day in Toronto

this is this around lunchtime we shooting this stuff

but it's pitch black

and we get those great shafts of light uh

only

only possible by this massive tanting job that we did

so it's like our own mini studio that we built

like that was probably the most elaborate um

incredible things I've ever gone to in my career for um

for a lot for lighting effect

but you also did that for us

Michael on the schedule

we went cause we've worked nights so long

oh getting

you know what up yeah

and you switch the day you go back to day

you did so many great things

and that's good you

you even plan to fire the caterer halfway through

and have a new caterer coming

so we didn't get sick of the food

you know yeah

that was premeditated yeah

it works that works

it's such a simple trick and it

the crew falls for it every single time haha

feeling shitty footed first yeah

bring the disk now you wanna say don't you

haha

I I love this part because it's like

very happy birthday to me

when she comes back and all the bodies are there

yeah

I love the fact that killer had time to kind of put on

it looks like that sequence

you love that yeah

we were trying to hiker back to those classic slashes

at least you know

that's what we're talking to Jim about

we wanted to have that feel

I love the yeah

light there um

it's very Catherine Bigelow

yeah you know

Renny Holland almost it's um

I look

I have influences from all over the place there

it's um

at 26 all I

all I really knew was on the movie

so I was just trying to switch things up

and it was good but if someone think with the script

what Sylvia did it say yeah

we're trying to make sure they match

but then find the right spot for that reference

but it was um

it was fun it's kind of like Jim

big deal and Rebecca goes to town yeah

oh yeah

and it made it so much fun

yeah so he's one shot with the mesmerizer lens

which kind of warps everything was my idea was Alicia

Alicia was just waking up out of her

after being knocked out

did you work with her back on this

to get the kind of right level of intensity

oh yeah

what was the top

she auditioned like four or five times this scene

and we we knew going to the time we came to shoot it

I didn't really need to do any more than kind of

help Rebecca Block and be over here when you do that

so we'd already figured that performance

going out pretty well

and I also wanted to let it have fun with

I didn't want to think

they could give me the same thing every single time

it's like why did you

why did you really go to town on that line

and like when you bring the visual light thing

I just have have fun and I love that moment

it is so chilling

recalls that other movement in terribly exactly

like that was me you know

I can we met

you did

the individual rehearsal

scenes with the actors at your place

I remember as well

you brought them in and rehearsals great

because it's free

you're not burning any money at that point

you know or you're burning minimal amount of money

but I am why it was it was

it was for me as well as much as the actors too

I just wanted to have a sense of

what they were gonna do

and if I needed to make an adjustment

I wanted to have time to think about

how I was going to ask for that adjustment

this is my favorite part about doing it on the set

and go hey

we need this changes like right

let's talk about it so

I mean rehearsals were look

I always I always try and do rehearsals when I'm

the visual aid was in yeah

yeah I love that she had time to make the visual aid

that's the favorite of most fans

yeah yeah

she has time to do a visual yeah

and it sort of Hawkins back to the Wexler slideshow to

it's like

she's got an inspiration little bit from that

I mean that's been a show up since James Bond movie

so they'll yeah right

and then I just realized today

David Evans is the edge into his real name

the edge is David Evans

you'd be pissed off if you got killed on

the music yeah

he would have made

miss thing was that in the script

you remember that little thing

I think that was a Gina lock up

I might be I love the lighting on her face

no that's her delivery

yeah this thing is thing

she's so great

let me just gather my insane thoughts yeah

so much fun everything about a performance is crazy

people don't realize they're crazy

and she yeah

that's right absolutely

she's totally justified and she's not the bad guy

yeah absolutely

no she's great

and she feel and I just love that line

it's like you need help

I've already tried therapy obviously

give me no good Natalie

that's right don't you good

Rebecca you're so funny

natural gift for comedy and you just nailed it

just nailed it for her hair is really curly yeah

and look one of the sweetest people

I've ever had the pleasure to work with

I mean just a great girl

hard working fun

always supporting everybody else and just um a trooper

guy gets picked up by a woman at a bar

she takes him back to her hotel

this was hard for you wasn't it Jamie

the knife in the belly and the gold

I hated doing that stuff yeah

I I don't like look

even though I here people have seen my film

still morning might be surprised to hear me say this

but I don't like torturing innocent victims in movie

I have no trouble if they can still morning

I have no trouble putting horrible

despicable

vile characters through the most incredible suffering

I'll put them through through a hovercraft fan

I don't matter but innocent characters

and characters that I sympathize with

I hate seeing them torture

that's that's why I don't really dig those um

let's torture movies some of them

some of them kind of work

but they work in a different kind of way

and I think it's yeah I like them

I like to see the

the real hard gold out to people who um

deserve it but sometimes

you gotta kill off the people that you don't want to

slash movie you know

you wanna like all the characters

I don't wanna create characters that people don't like

I don't wanna do this trailer trash talking

you know you know

you know the kind of movies I'm referring to

yes well

that's okay by this era is that

you know

this is the time when horror movies were fun again

you know yeah

we tried to make it fun and we

we weren't riveling in Gore

and I did I hated cutting Alicia's belly here with the

the scalpel I mean

not not for real but just an historian

and I just

didn't take any pleasure in those kind of moments

get a little bit of it to make sure yeah

of course you have to has to be a bit of bit of danger

and have to you have to make the audience panic

so that when Reese comes in and saves the day

it's like it is there's a bit of a payoff

but yeah oh yeah I hated it

as little of that stuff as possible

funny line

I'm just gonna really funny

yeah that shot

I didn't lie but anyway

it's okay yeah

it's like she's all right

I think I didn't

Rebecca say this is the most fun she had was funny

oh she loves you

she mentioned that in the interview

she loved wrestling with the red eye with a gun

it's all right sugar

I love that it's gonna be okay

yeah she's right

she untied that with one hand because she's

you know she's a badass with Beanie

it's a great show to you doing it with the foreground

the lightings that's great

it's a good slash too so it bleeds just the right way

yeah

that took several times to get very incredible yeah

oh no

no one like that when that happened

once again it's kind of you have to

you have to take her out

so she can come back again and get another chair

you know yeah

yeah look at this movie

and I just think

Jim just lit and shocked this thing to perfection

there's nothing really cinematography wise

that I want to change at all

I'm really really happy with the way it looks

and the writing here is tricky too

like the her plan Silvio reveals that yeah

and it all really does make sense to the end

junior and Sylvia did a lot of work

and Brad and Nico on this whole thing

it's like it's really clever love even at this point

she's still fighting over Jared Leto's character yeah

you see what you see still exactly yeah

you should be with Paul yeah

this is just I love the delivery here

you're cute Paul yeah but you're not that cute

and Jared's terrific here too

I need some details for my article

you know about how Wexley Bird was the Brad

Dwarf character of resolves

and you get arrested for the

yeah crime

so yeah you got the white

that's exactly right yeah

the character of Michael McDonald

he's yeah

put him away where he belongs man

he's a menace to society

that was a very cute shot of Jared there yeah yeah

which one of you do I kill first

a discussion on who should kill Rebecca Gay heart

like it was all gonna be oh

it had to be raised you had to use a gun

you know I can just oh yeah

what are you gonna shoot me Natalie

I didn't quite get the rejection working

I wanted her to

her dead boyfriend projected on her issue

in the wall there yeah

she catch the glimpse of the lovers as she

as she disappears

I didn't quite get once again as a timing thing

you know

give me the gun

I'm very happy with this transfer that's beautiful

really nice no

Reese and then remove

this is where we had to add a line of ADR

after artistic reading Michael Reese is gonna be fine

the ambulance is on the way

because everyone's favorite characters

just gets left on the floor haha

make the impression

I guess she's gonna live but if she smiles yeah but

and some more digital stuff yeah

a digital lightning yeah right

just a lot of false endings here

what brings a full service

she's back in the backseat of the car again

like happening this will become a legend too

you know

it'll change a little from person to person of course

more process stuff so we're static in a studio

blasting water at the car

service of the hassle of towing a vehicle or traveling

you can argue this part is is can you well

I'm regretting the ending

when Becca comes back and says

this is the way really happened

you could go this never actually happened yeah

this is the fake this never say yeah yeah

this is great we cut this truck in half remember yeah

I do this right

to get the shot of her going through the windshield

so everything that kind of make

these 15 million dollar movies anymore really

that these microbudget blue mouse things

all these massive superhero movies

and it's a shame because um

I like I love that we could lavish a bit of production

it wasn't expensive

but we could lavish a bit of love and affection on the

um movie

and just give it a bit of production value

that you don't always see

and that's great and this is a great shot my Bam

and we get cut back to the opening of the movie

you know it's cool

I like that

and there's a line about her floating down the river

in the storm or something that recovered at the body

or this yeah yeah

I remember how much fun it was to get home every day

after this rain

Michael in the shower and get into bed like yeah

night rain I'm actually playing around a little bit

yeah it's a little bit of that high praise my

I'm totally

yeah I love the look of it

small bridge and then we say goodbye

yeah it was really hard to pull out

I love all these 90s fashions

and yeah

this originally wasn't

you added this as you change the ending

this was the end well

originally we had

we did have the group of kids talking about it

we didn't put Brenda in the end

it was my idea to have Brenda over the last line

so this is how the story really goes

implying that she's around with with

with Jared and Alicia gone

so what would the ending mean without Rebecca in there

they would just been talking and yeah

it's just another ribbon later okay

I can't remember exactly how it ended

oh next in the commercial

yeah we make it

that's fine I thought right at the end

we get away with something

did it with Rebecca's blessing of course

I love her look here because it's kind of almost 50s

yeah

not at all yeah

this is how the story really you're all going to die

oh man

hey here we go

well

20 years later man

that's really um

so what Michael

what do you reckon

what do you reckon

looking back on this movie after 20 years

it was an incredible experience

it was it was really good

I mean you look at it in a whole lot of different ways

you know it's your career

it was all of our careers kind of getting going

yeah um

but I sure haven't had this experience come

revisiting a movie that I've made

any other project I've made um

certainly with this kind of vibe

yeah that we've all wanted to get back up to 20 years

and just kind of yeah

reflect on the film what about you

eager now

we were family man

this is this is the

you know

they go from circus to circus with different movies

right but this is the one for me that's very special

because we we were a family

we were a team

and we all loved each other

that's what I take from it

yeah I mean

it's funny I am

I always felt that way after the movie was over

and it was just kind of confirmed in crystal

clear reality for me the last couple of weeks

revisiting everyone again

all the crew

and then Chris and Jim and Jay and the cast and

and they're all just yeah

they all have this memory of the movie that's um

just kind of unique kind of special

and I just I just feel like

I felt like the luckiest guy in the world

when I was 26 years old I'll tell you what

at 46 looking back

I still feel pretty lucky yeah

as if you were it's great

you know I was in there obviously

but you know

seeing it opening weekend was

was so exciting

as the films I grew up in the 70s and 80s

finally they graduated

big studio productions

that were actually given budgets and production value

so it was almost like the maturation of these movies

urban legend

is definitely one of the classics of this era

scream I know that some urban legend

those are the three

it's really kind of true that it was the

if you say 90s slasher that these this

this is what you think of

yeah I just um

it's kind of weird to look back at your movie 20 years

putting context in 20 years

and it's doesn't feel like 20 years

that's a weird thing it just doesn't feel like that

long ago and feels like this was yesterday

it does feel like yesterday

and just the production value

you know

it that's why it holds up partly it's still look

I mean looks great today

yeah system at the gym and

and all the incredible clean

the Charles brain and everybody else

but well um

to all the people listening to this commentary

I thank you very very much

if you pop in the second disc

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exactly so yeah

and to scream factory into Ed Samuelson

and into Peter Bracki

when my dear friend Michael McDonald and Aga Pavlo

so and thank you so much for joining us today

for this commentary track and

being like

for being here to reflect on the movie we made

20 years ago no

it's a honor and a great pleasure to relive it

sitting here with you general

thanks man

I really appreciate I guess I salute yeah

you hear that everybody his voice

I guess I need to record another commentary

in 20 years for the oil will see in 20 years

the drinking now commenced it was pizza