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(soft guitar music)

♪ From this moment

♪ I'll never be your slave, no

♪ Just lay here in my own way

♪ From this moment

♪ I can see

- [Krow] I'm Krow, I'm a transgender male.

I used to be a female model from the age of 12, till 18.

And when I was 18,

I decided I was gonna transition into being a male.

I would like to try again and see if maybe

I can actually become a male model

after everything that I've gone through.

♪ From this moment

♪ I can see

♪ I can see me

(soft ambient music)

The first time I thought, "Wow, I should have been born

a boy instead of a girl," was probably when I was either

10 or 11 years old, so...

I never really understood the difference between genders

when I was younger.

I'd always been one of the guys.

I never got along well with the girls.

It was when they did sex ed class,

what they did was they would split us up

into boys and girls.

Yeah, I always looked out the window

and saw the boys playing football

and they got to play games while we had to learn

about what grossness our body was gonna do

when we got older.

And I was like, "Well, why can't I just go out

and hang with the boys?

Like, why do I have to sit here

and learn all this gross stuff?

Like, I don't want that to happen to my body."

But that was probably the first time I reached

that kind of boundary of, "Well, what is the difference

between a girl and a guy?"

Is it have to be physical or emotional?

And I don't know, it was a really confusing time for me.

Yeah, I started dressing like a guy

and started getting bullied pretty bad after that.

For some reason, this kid just got it in his head

that he didn't like the way I was dressed.

And he started calling me emo,

which is supposed to be a slur for a cutter.

So someone who cuts their wrists.

And the full term is just emotional.

And then other people started getting into it

and started believing that I actually cut myself.

In the first year, like, I didn't really care much.

I was like, "Well, I'm not."

All my friends kind of turned on me.

And that's when I made my best friend.

There's three main people that have, I feel,

that have supported me along the way.

- Oh, man. Being back here is weird.

- [Krow] One of the biggest ones is definitely Ashton,

my best friend.

He's been with me since elementary school,

Which grade was it that I told you?

- [Ashton] Fourth.

- [Krow] Fourth grade.

"Man, I wish I could be a boy."

- Mhm.

- And like, at that time, like,

I just meant it as like a offhand, like,

"Yeah, life would be easier as a guy."

- Yeah.

- But like, it stuck pretty true.

- Oh, the playground.

- [Krow] he was there for before I transitioned,

when I was questioning myself

but didn't know about transitioning.

- Touche.

I don't think I did.

awful experiences of getting bullied

and called whatever name under the sun.

Being like getting called emo all the time.

That was a big thing for both of us.

- [Krow] I would beat kids up for it, like fully.

The guys would call me that and I would be like,

knocking them to the ground.

♪ When you insides are outside crying ♪

Ashton is my only friend in grade seven.

I literally had no other friends.

♪ No one know what sick you've got ♪

- Remember when we used to pole dance on these things?

- Yes.

♪ If I could break away

♪ If we break away

♪ Can we make it back in time?

I really wanted to be able to be a boy,

but I knew that physically I couldn't.

So at that point, I didn't know

that there was any way to change.

So I figured I might as well kind of learn how to be a girl,

because I didn't feel anything naturally

to be able to express myself as a girl or be feminine.

- Kian came home from a birthday party and was like,

"Mom, what do you think about me modeling?"

And this is my daughter that has been running around

up at the campsite, being at one of the tom boys

and everything else.

I was like, "Okay, well..."

You know, like any other thing that your children

come towards you and want to talk to you about

and want to try out, you give them the opportunity.

(upbeat electronic music)

The next thing you know, Kian is off to Japan

as soon as he's old enough.

- [Krow] Modeling in Japan at 13 was pretty awesome.

(electronic music continues)

First photo shoot, I felt so awkward and weird.

I had never had photos taken of me before and like,

felt like I was attractive in any way.

So yeah, it was really interesting.

And when they put the makeup on and did my hair,

I was like, "Oh my gosh, like I actually look pretty.

I look like a girl and a nice girl, too."

Wow!

- [Lisa] From there we have been to China, Taiwan,

Toronto, and Milan.

And then at 15 I started letting Kian go by himself

because he'd had that much experience.

(down tempo electronic music)

- [Krow] When I started high school,

I also started modeling.

That was kind of to show them like a, "Fuck you guys".

Like, I'm getting money because I'm beautiful.

And I can go to different countries and do what I want,

kind of thing.

Just to kinda get back at them.

The whole time with the bullying, I figured if I was a guy,

this wouldn't have happened.

If I was a guy, I'd still be friends with everyone.

Bullying makes you feel like you shouldn't be around.

You're a burden to people.

And it makes you feel like you,

it would be better if you just weren't around,

you didn't exist.

Usually I would just go home and lock myself in my room,

turn all the lights off.

I just couldn't couldn't handle being in that environment,

being with those kids around.

I would've been 11 when I first contemplated suicide

and had those really dark days.

The very first time I thought about being a boy

and why I had been born a girl instead,

I met a friend in, I think it was grade nine.

I ended up going to what they call

an anime convention, with them.

(upbeat pop music)

I found out that this friend I had just made

was trans, transgender.

And when they brought me into the group,

a lot of them were either transgender, or gay, or bi,

or gender fluid.

It was the first time I had heard

that you could actually change gender.

When I first went into the community,

I didn't want to use my real name.

I already wanted to use my more male name

that I had given myself, which is Krow.

I was going by the name Krow with close friends.

Not regular like, school friends.

I kind of wasn't mentioning that to them.

But like, at least the cosplay community is where I felt

like my family was.

So I told all of them and was like,

"Yeah, call me Krow, use male pronouns."

- I think my decision to transition came gradually,

very gradually.

The last year that I was in high school,

I was already sort of like, you know,

binding at school and dressing more androgynously.

I had a lot of, I don't know, anger towards myself

about it for a long time, a lot of guilt.

You know, "Why couldn't I just be a girl?"

Or, "Why couldn't I just be cisgender?"

Or, "Why couldn't I just have like an easy,

straightforward life that makes sense?"

I was actually 17 and I was dating a guy

and I was really in love with him.

And I told him I'm trans and he dumped me.

And then I was like, "Okay, I think this is time."

And I, two months later started at least attempting

to get into a gender clinic and talk to somebody.

That was like, when I took the leap and actually came out

and was like, "Yeah, I'm trans and this is what I'm doing."

- I was Ashton's sounding board through his transition.

- That's true.

- And then I was like,

I don't wanna seem like I'm copying you,

but I'm also transgender.

And like, I'm just scared to do the hormones

and the surgeries at the moment.

I knew I couldn't pretend to be a girl for that much longer.

It had gotten to a point, I think it was 16

where I was like, "I need to be a boy."

In Japan, in Tokyo, was probably when I first kind of felt

my confidence kind of come back,

what I was okay with, what I wasn't okay with.

Once I knew that China was the place

I was gonna be going next, I knew that was my last trip.

I was also just very dumb.

So I just stopped kind of caring about

what other people thought.

- China was the last one.

That's been now just about two years ago.

And Kian had been saying me for about a year before

that he was thinking about quitting.

- [Krow] Yeah, when I was in China,

there was a lot that happened in China that was just crazy.

I didn't like the way that being a female model,

how you were kind of treated.

It's like pieces of meat and, you know,

people look over you and then look at the next one.

kind of thing.

I had finally had the last event and was like,

"Well, you know what? I'm done pleasing people."

And just came back after a job.

I had told my mom, my agency, before

that I was gonna stop modeling.

It was my last trip.

- [Lisa] And two days before he was gonna come home,

when he had no more jobs, he sent me a photo.

And in this photo is the floor, and a pair of scissors,

and a ponytail lying on the ground.

- Had to do a ponytail anyway, took a pair of scissors.

Cut it, didn't care.

I was like, "Well, I'm a boy now!" (laughs)

Surprise, everyone!

- [Lisa] I didn't realize at the time when Kian

had chopped off his hair, that it was about transitioning.

I thought it was just a matter of putting his foot down,

saying, "Okay, I'm done with the modeling.

I tried that last time.

Not enjoying it.

Chopping off my hair because no one is going to want a girl

that looks like this as a model."

It didn't make sense to me because this is someone

that has made a career out of modeling,

being feminine, and being beautiful,

and wearing makeup, and gorgeous clothing.

And it's the dream that all girls have.

She was a princess in front of the camera.

She was the center of attention as this beautiful woman.

So where is this all coming from?

And it's just not computing in my brain.

- [Krow] Being transgender was the first thing

that she didn't support me in to begin with.

So, it was a complete surprise.

I thought she would take it like, "Okay."

And then I thought she would be asking questions

and then elaborating, and then trying to learn about

being transgender with me.

- I have given Kian a six months,

"I don't want to hear about this at all.

I'm not gonna have a discussion with you at all

until the six months is up."

- She didn't wanna discuss it.

She didn't wanna hear about it.

She said, "Wait six months before we have

this discussion again.

And don't try to talk to me about it in between."

- This six month waiting period was more about specifically

our relationship and what I have seen

and how I'm gonna process it.

Make sure you are a hundred percent clear on,

"This is what I want."

- I had to still be a female,

even though she knew for that whole time.

And yeah, it was really hard for that.

- I knew that you were like, trying to push me

and make sure that I'm making the right decision,

but it was still hard on me, so...

- Exactly. And I purposely made it hard on you.

- [Krow] I had no idea how to feel,

'cause it felt like I lost a parent.

So yeah, it was hard for that first six months.

- With the way that Kian was with his friends

and everything else and all of a sudden

there's one that is transitioning.

Then there's another one

that's thinking about transitioning.

And then there's another one that isn't quite sure

what they wanna do.

And then all of a sudden Kian is coming on about,

"What you think about me being a boy?"

So I didn't really take it seriously.

I thought it was just a fad that's gonna go on.

And he's gonna just, you know, like typical teenagers,

he's gonna just be interested in something for a while

and then he's gonna let it go.

If Kian had come to me at 18 years of age,

when this really now became a solidified thing happening,

and said, "I wanna get married.

I'm getting married tomorrow."

That's a life choice,

but you can get out of that life choice.

There is a way out.

- It was really difficult on me.

I was very anxious wondering if you were gonna be

okay with it or not.

what I felt would have to be what I do for me.

It got to the point that I was like at five months,

I was starting to think like,

maybe I should just do the hormones without her.

"Well, it started so you can't stop me."

If I had to pretend that I was a female

for the rest of my life, I probably wouldn't make it

through the year.

- When the six months was over

and it was time to start talking,

and I said, "Okay, I have a couple questions for you."

I said, "My biggest question," I said,

and this is where my confusion personally came in.

I said, "You were the one that came to me.

You're the one that wanted to do this job

that is so feminine.

And now you want this, so you can understand

there's gonna be a little push me,

pull you confusion going on."

And he looked at me and goes,

And it's like, "Okay, you don't have to.

I don't have no more questions.

I'm in a hundred percent.

What do you need?

And I'm there for you."

And we've just gone literally balls to the walls.

Even with doing things wrong,

I think that's part of parenting.

We're gonna make mistakes.

And instead of beating myself up about

what I could have done differently,

the biggest thing is just to remember

that this is the person that you love.

- [Krow] Dexter!

- [Dexter] Hey! How are you doing?

- [Krow] Hey!

- [Lisa] And that hasn't changed.

And remember how scary it is for them to come forward

and to come to you and just say,

"This is what's happening with me.

I need you."

And that's what coming out is,

is they're saying they need you.

- This is gonna be last photo shoot as a female

before I get my testosterone shot.

So yeah, it's the last hurrah basically, so...

- We're gonna make this count.

You see, we're gonna have like three sets here.

- [Lisa] You hope your child believes

that you love them enough,

that no matter what.

And when you have those moments that all of a sudden

you realize that your child is afraid, is so lost,

when you think they're so grounded,

is really, really hard.

And that's also a moment that you have to realize

it has absolutely nothing to do with you.

It's about them.

It's about what they need, not about what they want.

And you're failing as a parent if you don't listen.

And if you don't give your child what they need,

that's your failing.

You're not failing because your child

isn't what you thought they should be.

You're failing because you're not letting your child

be who they need to be.

(Krow laughs)

- [Dexter] You look great.

- Well, I might thicken out a little.

- [Dexter] Are you?

- [Lisa] Maybe gets 110 pounds instead of a hundred.

- Yeah, just pure muscle.

I don't know.

I feel like even after I transition,

I'll probably still wear some like female-ish clothing,

'cause, you know, once you're confident then it's like,

guys can look good while wearing feminine clothes, so...

- [Lacey] It's all working so well, so excited.

- [Dexter] You're making this easy for us.

- [Lacey] Yeah! (laughs)

- [Krow] I hope to see my face get a bit more

kind of manly features 'cause I have very soft

and refined feminine features.

So, yeah, I'm hoping to get that like, where it gets

like, the slight muscle that comes right there.

- [Dexter] I'm excited about the prospect of shooting Kian

after the transformation is complete.

I was like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it.

Let's do it."

I'll be part of this, you know, from the first,

you know, from this shoot before that transformation

and then be a part of it after, so I'm excited.

What I can't wait to see is like, how he's gonna fill out.

Right? And see how he's gonna look, you know,

from every sense.

(upbeat r&b music)

For the story, you know, making it gender neutral.

But I really love the content that we got.

Really love the shots we got.

(music continues)

Yeah, like that.

When I was told about this story, I was like,

so, so excited to be a part of it.

You're amazing.

(crew laughs and applauds)

- [Krow] Today it's a giant step for me.

Start on me and my journey to being a guy finally.

Even though we had a rocky start between me and my mom

for when I first came out as being transgender,

after she started understanding it

and understanding that this was a choice that I had to make

and that it wasn't just the new thing to do,

once she understood that I truly meant to do this

with all my heart, she supported me

through absolutely everything,

and was there every step of the way.

I just went in and got my prescription,

my little testosterone vial.

That means I'm going to be starting testosterone soon.

And I'm so excited about it.

It's official, it's starting.

- [Lisa] I get to be really lucky and have puberty twice

with one child.

(laughs)

This is gonna be fun.

Skin oiliness and acne, facial and body hair growth.

Scalp hair loss.

- Yes.

- [Lisa] So you might be my bald, gay son.

Clitoral enlargement.

Apparently we're gonna have to have a little looser pants

on you, from my understanding.

- [Krow] Now she's like my biggest fan.

- Yeah. Oh yeah.

You got the big guns going on there.

Body fat redistribution. (laughs)

- [Krow] She's just been happy to try to help out

in any way she can.

She's so proud of me.

So it's an amazing feeling.

- Benefits, means it is a permanent change.

Thinning and atrophy of vaginal tissues. So yeah.

- Which we'll get removed.

It's okay.

I went in to get my first shot.

It represents probably one of the biggest steps

I'm gonna be taking in this whole process.

(mellow ambient music)

Kind of the first real big step

that's being able to get my body to start changing,

my voice to start changing.

Everything's kind of being more the way I want to be.

- [Lisa] This was a big one.

My child is now becoming masculine.

♪ Happy birthday to you, hey!

♪ Happy birthday to you, ho!

♪ Happy birthday dear Kian

- [Child] Kian!

- [Lisa] It's a big day.

♪ Happy birthday to you

(group cheers)

I'm gonna touch on something that I thought about

after the fact.

So the other day you did that photo shoot.

- Yeah.

- [Lisa] I have watched you in front of a camera

for years now.

12 and a half years old.

I have seen many, many, many, many photo shoots

that you've done.

I have never seen the confidence that I saw in you

the other day when you got in front of that camera,

being you.

That was really, really cool.

And that's something I hope that you follow up with

and do more with.

- First time assigned from the clinic

after I got my prescription for the vial of testosterone.

Sorry.

(audience applauds)

- [Kas] So we're here just to support pretty much

trans youth and educating and saving lives.

That's the goal.

(soft guitar music)

♪ It's not that easy to go back in time ♪

♪ It's no secret that I put my heart on the line ♪

♪ You stand watching me fall

♪ But not to catch me

- [Krow] Meeting Kas was absolutely amazing.

- I'm kind of curious as to like the biggest kind of thing

you're feeling right now.

- I've noticed I've been a lot happier.

Seeing him be like absolutely confident in himself.

- "Oh, I have man shoulders now.

This is awesome. This is perfect.

This is, okay, I wanna stand a little taller now." (laughs)

- [Krow] Them not being afraid to just, I don't know,

just be a person.

- It's kind of cool like, going through just

talking to someone who's going through it.

'Cause I feel like I've been so isolated in terms of,

from the transgender community.

'Cause I came up like pretty like.

- Early, early.

- Early and like, alone.

Like, I didn't know any other transgender people.

I didn't have anyone who's going through it.

I honestly don't even remember

how I first heard the term transgender.

Like, I've always wanted to be a boy.

You know, when I was two, I was asking everyone

when my penis was gonna grow in like all the other boys

and I was sorely disappointed to find out

that that would never happen for me.

I've just like known all along.

So, I mean at 17 I came out and coming to that realization

was just really like, like a brief moment of clarity.

And then literally, you know, no one else knew.

I was terrified to tell my girlfriend.

I was terrified to tell everyone else.

And no matter how many people you have supporting you,

no matter how many people you have

trying to understand how you feel,

there will never be anyone that will understand

the inner struggle that you've had to go through.

And the changes you're gonna have to go through

to get to where you want to be.

And you know, that's where the community really helps out.

- So this is basically the sort of non-book trans area.

So you've got a few binders here.

I have a half one on right now just because

I find it easier to slip in if I'm kind of

quickly gonna go do something.

Though, I do prefer the longer ones.

So it would be like a full one like this.

- [Ken] Like a tank top almost.

- Yeah.

And the one I have has has the binding part

only about up to here.

And then kind of like a swimsuit-ish fabric down here.

- [Ken] Right, right.

- So it's like Under Armour.

So then I just fold that up to about here halfway

and then hold onto where the actual tough binding is

and then try to like, slide it on.

It's good.

so that it's evenly flat.

But yeah, aside from that, for the first while

it feels kind of tight 'cause your body

has to get used to it.

And also the binder itself has to kind of

shape to your body too.

I used to be a small, small D to a large C,

and then after binding, it has actually flattened down

and it's not as firm, I've noticed.

So it got a little smaller, yay.

- I don't really feel like I identify

with that part of my body.

And in fact, one of the things that I dealt with

in my early like, dysphoria that I knew it was dysphoria

was like binding all day and then coming home

and taking my binder off and being like,

"Whoa!"

Like, "That's my body."

I completely would like dissociate from that.

And not even remember that I like had breasts

and then I'd come home and be like, "Okay, dang."

- I'll come out of the shower.

Like I won't even think about it.

I'll come out of the shower and like be getting dressed

and be like, "Time to put my binder back on."

And I like look down, I'm like, "Whoa."

Don't look down! - Yeah.

Don't look down.! - Yeah.

- I know the feeling.

Yeah, don't look down as like a trans

rule of showering, I think.

- [Ken] So these are sort of the higher end ones,

are what's this particular company.

So they actually look much more realistically

like a penis, for sure.

- [Krow] And they even feel it.

I've seen my friends have it.

- And they actually feel more, yeah. they're soft.

They've got like real mushy flush material, kind of.

- My friends let me grab one in

and like start spinning it.

- Spinning it around, yeah. (laugh)

And this is more like a dildo.

So you could wear this in like a harness or whatever

and you can actually have sex with this.

You can basically interact, right?

- [Krow] Yeah.

you can also add testicles on your own.

Even add a vibration to the testicles if you want.

- [Krow] Oh, that's interesting.

- [Ken] So you can get a little bit

of extra boost for fun.

And then this, you can wear it as a packer

and then you can actually stand and pee in a urinal

if you want to, so you don't have to use a stall

or be a stall man.

- Interesting.

The only thing would be like, would you be able to clean it

like right there on the spot?

- You probably have to do like a little Kleenex sponge.

- Yeah, that would be a little weird

to try cleaning for the first while, yeah.

- But I can assure you that

some straight guys are dribblers.

(laughs)

- When I first got a packer, it was kind of like around

the same time I got a binder.

I just like went on gung ho and wanted everything.

I was just like, "I want it all at once."

I got the pack and pee.

Like, I worked construction.

So it was just super uncomfortable

like, moving around all the time.

I literally just got lazy that I'd tried it on

and it would be really awesome and feel like, great.

And then like the band would loosen like,

it cause it was just like some elastic.

Got to the point where I was just like,

"You know what?

I'm just gonna nix this because it's just taken up

way too much of my time."

Like, I mean like I'm not even adjusting my balls anymore.

I'm just like, I'm just adjusting my strap all the time.

(laughs)

- At this point I'm like, okay, , medical things

have come along far enough that now I will have the option

probably within the next three to five years

of having an actual transplant,

which would provide feeling and functionality.

So I'm going to be waiting with that.

But if that hadn't happened,

if they hadn't done the first successful one,

then I would've already been on the waiting list

for getting the surgery, the bottom surgery.

- It's scary to go under the knife for something

that's not, you know, medically necessary.

Scary when it is medically necessary too.

But it's scarier almost when it's like a box you're ticking.

Like, "Yes, I sign my rights away.

"Yes, I sign my pulse away," potentially.

Like, it's scary.

- Like the big, "Okay, I'm not ready for this yet,"

was that, you know, like they'll cut everything

and kind of, I guess, pull it out in a sense

and you have to take like a massive skin graft

from your arm or your leg.

And I'm kinda like looking like,

"Hey, well like what do I want tattooed

on my dick at this point?"

(both laugh)

So, I opted to wait to see if science would improve.

- [Ken] The trans community is really kind of

going through a big awakening in the same way

that queer community did sort of in the sixties

and seventies kind of.

It used to be sort of queer studies

with a little bit of transgender.

And now it's transgender with a little bit of queer studies.

So like this last Pride, we ordered more transgender flags

than we've ever ordered before.

And we still sold out before Pride.

- Wow.

(crowds cheering)

(upbeat techno music)

- Here it has the choice.

This means that I can start applying for my name change.

Once I have this and everything is approved,

then I'm gonna start going to my job as male only.

Luckily my job is very generic and gender neutral.

What I do for work is background actor, or extra.

So as soon as these papers go through,

then I'm going to have a lot more confidence

to be able to tell people that if they're asking questions,

just be like, "Well I'm male and I want to be cast

as male only roles."

The makeup people have been asking me, oh, it's kind of,

some of them just look, but others that know that I'm trans

they're like, "Okay, so when are you going to start shaving

your little mustache thing"

I'm like, "Ah, I want to shave!"

Here is my attempt to shave for the first time.

(laughs)

- [Lisa] I won't get into great details about Kian's father.

His father had decided not to be part of his life,

at least at that point in time.

And it's stayed that way.

So I knew I was gonna be a single parent right off the bat.

And I was fine with that.

It was never, never an issue whatsoever.

- [Krow] Two years later after he had me,

he had another kid with someone who is now his wife,

and then another two years after that, he had another kid.

So he never wanted to talk to me previous to that.

And that even though he couldn't handle responsibility

of a kid that all of a sudden two years later,

"Oh, he can handle a kid and a wife and another kid.

And not even bother trying to talk to me

when I was still under 10 years old."

Yeah, no.

(soft piano music)

- [Lisa] When I was pregnant with you,

I kept having a dream.

And I had a dream about me walking with my son

along the beach.

And it happened over, and over, and over again.

And it was a very specific dream.

So, go ahead and open it.

And we now have a painting of me with my son

when he was a child.

- [Krow] Mom!

- [Lisa] This is the one and only picture

that my son and I have of him being a young child,

and him being my son.

I hope you really enjoy it.

- [Krow] I love it.

- Oh God. Here we go. (laughs) Waterworks.

- Thank you, Mom.

- So it's been almost eight months, seven and a half so far.

Yeah, it's been going good.

My voice stopped kind of dropping.

So, my period also came back.

So, my doctor had me up the dosage.

So, right now, just waiting for that to kind of kick in.

Just mentally, I was at a block where I couldn't

give myself the shot.

So I had to get my friend to do it

or go in and get the doctors to do it.

So I'm still kind of new at it.

I haven't messed up yet, but you know,

there's always the chance.

All right, so you have it upside down that way

you don't have any bubbles.

Do some taps.

Now we're going to unscrew this

and this goes in the sharp container

and you never have to look at it again.

Scary needle is gone.

And now we get to do the needle stuff.

Go until you have that little droplet

and then we're gonna grab an area here.

(takes a deep breath)

(tense music)

Oh no, I'm tripping myself out. (chuckles)

All right, I can do this.

Oh my gosh.

Oh no, I can't do this.

Just don't deal with it.

(takes a deep breath)

(soft guitar music)

♪ I breathe you in

♪ I feel you sinking into my blood ♪

♪ You're under my skin

♪ The taste of you is not enough ♪

♪ I'm slowly letting go

♪ Of all my inhibitions

- [Kas] Starting, you know, grade eight, grade nine,

that self-awareness when you're really aware

of how you look, your body, the changes that are happening

as you're going through puberty,

looking in the mirror was the hardest thing for me.

Like, I just wanted to break the mirror every single time.

I absolutely hated what I saw.

That amount of self hate,

like there's a lot of destructive habits

that come out of that.

Alcohol, and smoking, and you know, like pills

and a lot of that kind of thing, right?

Suicide attempts and just a lot of self harm.

Instead of cutting myself, I would go home.

I would blast music as loud as it would go.

And I would just like repeatedly smack my head

against the wall until I was so numb and so lightheaded.

For me, it wasn't about feeling a different kind of pain.

It was about not feeling at all.

I did that quite a bit and that's definitely something

that I've later on in life suffered a lot of concussions.

- [Nancy] I never knew about the head bashing.

I knew there was blackness.

I just didn't know how I could communicate with him.

You know, we tried to go to a counselor

and it seemed like such a private journey.

And we, as parents just felt totally powerless.

There was a brick wall around him.

♪ Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes

♪ Turn and face the strange

♪ Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes

♪ It's gonna have to be a different man ♪

He has lived this by himself.

Not because we didn't want to be there with him,

but again, that brick wall was so thick.

- The closest time I think I came to like,

actually just killing myself, was I just drank

and swallowed a ton of pills.

And as much as I hated myself,

and as much as I wanted to die,

in that moment, I panicked.

There was some glimmer that was telling me

that I don't want to die.

Like, that's not over yet.

And I ran to my mom and woke her up

and I ended up throwing everything up.

- Huh...

It's horrible.

You feel powerless and that's the hard thing to deal with.

Can't believe I'm crying about it all these years later.

It stays.

And that was, in some ways, as horrible as it was,

it was the first time that he allowed me in.

♪ Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes

♪ Turn and face the strange

I just thank my lucky stars I still have him.

♪ It's gonna have to be a different man. ♪

- [Kas] My mom is just hands down the most incredible person

on this Earth because I can honestly say

that if I did not have my mom, I wouldn't be here today.

♪ I could wait for you to change ♪

♪ But what good would that do?

- [Nancy] I appreciate every day that I have my son

and I'm able to feel admiration and amazement

and the courage that your child needs to have

and that my child has, to be who he is.

And really it's just about gender.

He's still the same person I gave birth to.

The envelope has changed a little bit and we celebrate that,

but I'm just really lucky to have him with us still.

♪ You're the devil

♪ The devil in disguise

(audience applauds)

There was an urgency for Kas.

For him, he just needed to have that physical surgery

in order to feel that he could go forward.

- [Kas] I went for chest surgery out in Florida.

It all happened so fast.

I remember him unwrapping, but I looked down and said,

"Holy fuck, they're gone."

And it was just like, you know, I had these tiny nipples

that were just like sewn right back on.

And it was just like, I had a complete flat chest

for the first time in my life.

That was for me the point where I started to feel

even remotely comfortable in my body.

- [Krow] We're at the surgeon's office.

We're gonna go see him and he's gonna be the one

that's gonna be doing the breast reduction surgery for me.

So we're gonna do the consultation and he's gonna sit down

and talk with me and make sure that I'm familiar

with the procedure.

- How long have you been considering

the surgery side of this?

- Since I was 16.

- And you're...

- I am 21 now.

(quiet ambient music)

- So you can imagine you take something this big

and bring it down to something like that,

you'll get pleats around the edges.

That generally settles down.

We try to get these scars as symmetrical as we can.

Okay. All right.

- Awesome. Thank you very much.

All right, here we are.

New name!

Gender marker, so my gender marker is now male.

When people ask for my ID,

I don't have to look at them awkwardly

as they like look at my gender marker

and look at my face and like, "Huh?"

One of the first questions I get from non-transgender

and straight people is, "You're trans.

Does that mean you like girls?"

It is probably one of the most common questions I get

and all the time I'm like,

"No, just because I'm trans does not mean I'm into girls."

It's actually, for me specifically,

it's the exact opposite.

I have a phobia of female parts.

And even the thought of being with like,

a physically female person is just like,

not in my registry and like, I couldn't.

I couldn't.

- I've always been attracted to girls

and that hasn't changed.

Like I, you know, and like, that's just me.

I mean, I was a lesbian, I identified as a lesbian

before I transitioned into a male.

So, you know, I technically went from gay straight.

- Whereas for me it's the opposite.

Going from straight to gay. - Straight to gay.

Yeah, 'cause at some point in your life,

if you're trans and you like people,

you're going to be gay at some point.

- Or at the very least bisexual

- [Krow] Or at least bisexual.

- Yeah, I mean it's gonna be...

- You're gonna fit in that section at some point,

unless you're just like, "No, I don't like people.

Just never touch me."

- Just stay away.

- Just stay away.

- [Jane] Today, I'm incredibly pleased to see our government

is taking the next step by amending the human rights code

to include explicit language that reaffirms the fact

that transgender persons are clearly protected by the law.

- All those in favor, please rise.

(group applauds)

- [Spencer] On a day like today where we introduce

legislation to change our human rights code,

to finally exclusively protect transgender people,

I'm incredibly excited.

- [Kas] You know, transitioning is like,

it's a personal battle.

And then it's also a battle trying to

represent yourself in society.

And try to express yourself without fear,

the reassurance and safety that we don't have to be scared

to be ourselves.

It sets a good precedent for other, you know,

demographics of Parliament and also other countries even.

I think it can apply to everyone everywhere.

- [Jane] One more recommendations was, of course,

to support the gay straight alliances in schools

and basically to beef up the human rights code

to include everybody.

And so it was very exciting to include

gender identity and gender expression.

- All right, so I'm actually gonna be getting my,

oh, what's the name of it?

Hysterectomy.

I'm gonna be getting that done soon.

And that's where they remove all the internal female parts.

- Kian never got nervous, which I found really odd.

I was getting more nervous just thinking about him

and what he had to go through.

And trip out there, got him up early in the morning.

He was obviously a little groggy,

but he was doing just fine.

- Getting ready to go to the hospital, get my surgery.

- [Lisa] And then they said, when we got to the hospital,

staff, they were fantastic, by the way.

Really, really great people there.

- [Krow] No one judged me.

Actually the first nurse to come when I was actually

positioned in a proper room, was a male nurse.

And he was really enthusiastic about

me doing the changeover.

And he's like, "Yeah, I was wondering about,

I looked at the patient file and it was like,

'Oh, a male, but in for hysterectomy.'"

And he was a little confused about that.

And then when he saw me, he understood.

He was like, "Oh, okay."

And yeah, he was really thought that I was changing

for myself was really cool.

And he was really supportive of that.

So that was really fun having that.

I think, personally, it's a risk that you should be

willing to take if this is what you really want.

'Cause a lot of this comes with being transgender,

comes with the risk of being judged.

Thus far, I haven't been judged negatively.

I've had a lot of people like,

"Oh, but you make such a pretty girl."

And I'm like, "But I also make a pretty man."

Then they have this weird, puffy heater.

So, waiting to see the surgeon

and get everything sorted out.

- It wasn't that much longer after that,

that they took him into surgery.

And then it hit me like a ton of bricks

when it had just happened.

Taking a deep breath, he's just gone into surgery.

So I'll let you know how it went.

When the surgery had happened and Krow stayed overnight

at the hospital and I went home.

And I didn't have to be on for him.

I didn't have to be making sure he was okay.

I didn't have to do all of these things.

Here come the tears.

I sat back and poured myself a drink.

And I said goodbye to my daughter.

(soft piano music)

And then I poured myself a second drink.

I said hello to my son.

for a few hours now. ve be

And yeah, everything's been good.

- He did just fine, the doctor said.

The surgeon said that everything went really,

really, really textbook.

- [Krow] So yeah, it's been really good.

And they just do those three small incisions

and they can take out an entire organ.

Plus the little side extras.

- We'd even talked a little bit about maybe saving eggs

and maybe in the future and doing all of these things.

And the reality is, is that neither one of us

is that important that it is a bloodline going on.

If Kian is in the position that he finds a man

that he loves and wants to marry and they wanna raise

a family and they adopt kids,

or maybe his husband to be has their own children,

or has his own children.

Who knows?

- Oh, she'll be happy if I adopt,

because then she can have like cute Korean

or Japanese grandson. (laughs)

That's one of the things that even when I was modeling,

and I was like, "Oh my God, look at all these

beautiful Korean stars."

And she was like, "Well, I'm gonna have it.

I'm gonna have a Japanese or Korean grandson, aren't I?"

I'm like, "Probably, but might not be from me." (laughs)

- There's no regrets.

This is the right thing to do for him.

There's no doubt in my mind.

I think he's doing the right thing.

I've never seen my kid so happy, so relaxed,

so comfortable in his own skin as he is right now.

And each one of these steps is just making that

happen even more so, yeah.

It's, you know, you do what you do for your kid, right?

(soft guitar music)

- A lot of the songs we write are about,

let's say love and loss, struggle, overcoming struggle.

And in the end, just kind of finding a peace.

♪ Go to sleep with a restless mind ♪

♪ Broken thoughts keep wasting my time, ♪

♪ Hold my head and I drink instead ♪

♪ Blur the visions of you in my head ♪

- [Emily] That's a big thing for us

is to just get our music out there,

really share our stories with them

because I don't think that we're alone in how we feel.

Our songs are really a story about those things.

So I think that it could connect with a lot of people

and make an impact in some way.

♪ Promises and empty eyes

♪ We like to think we were just killing time ♪

♪ When I get over you

♪ I will pretend we're better off instead ♪

(soft guitar music)

- [Kas] The minute I saw Emily,

I just knew that this person was different.

It was like love at first sight.

- I can't really explain it.

We were just drawn to each other.

I have no words to explain it.

It's just honestly kind of like magnets.

- I walked in and I was just like, speechless.

- He like, walks in, doesn't talk to me at all.

- Because I mean, you think like,

"Beautiful girl, I'm making an ass out of myself,

I need to leave."

And Emily thought I hated her.

- I thought that he was either really shy or hated my guts.

- I thought she thought I was an idiot.

And I was trying to not, you know,

progress further down that road.

- For the first two months that I knew him,

he would barely speak to me.

- And our first conversation that we just kind of

really clicked was we were at a party

and we both happened to be there.

And we just had this like long conversation about stars.

- We were talking about the stars or something.

And that was the first time we had ever had a conversation.

And that was the first time he would ever

actually like, speak to me.

And then after that,

we just kind of became inseparable.

- But after that conversation we clicked

and then we just had a ton in common

and we were just kind of finishing each other's sentences.

- Yeah, it was then that we kind of just

moved into a relationship and it felt exactly

how it was supposed to go.

- [Kas] Well, the wedding will be backyard barbecue,

but still kind of traditional.

So we're gonna be having it on my parents' acreage

on Vancouver Island.

Just our family, our close family and our close friends.

♪ I've always loved you

♪ From the day we met

♪ Your skin on mine darling

♪ Something I can't forget

♪ I'll always love you

♪ Even as we grow old

♪ Your eyes take me home

♪ Hold me down slow

- [Kas] Emily knew I was trans from the very beginning,

obviously it has never interfered

with our relationship at all.

- I think he had a harder time with it than I did

in the beginning of our relationship,

'cause he was scared that I would leave.

And I think that had been some of his experiences, too,

previously, is that he was like often compared to being

not enough of a man.

And to me, he was perfect.

- [Kas] But I'm so fortunate that I have someone

who's so proud of the fact that I'm trans

and so proud of the fact that I am who I am.

And that does follow straight through

her entire family as well.

- Emily is totally in love with Kas.

When she met Kas she phoned us and she said,

"Mom, I met this guy and you're gonna totally,

totally fall in love with him.

And I've never felt like I could be

more me with anybody."

- [Emily] My family was ecstatic.

My mom, she loves him so much.

Like, sometimes I think even more than me.

So it's just...

- I love Kas.

- So do I.

I have nothing but respect for the man.

He's a wonderful person and I can't ask for anymore.

- [Officiant] Will you give your children your blessing?

- Yes.

- [Officiant] Awesome. Thank you.

You may use...(group laughs)

Family is really important to both Emily and Kas.

(dog barks)

(group laughs)

Yes, and you're family too.

And join your left hands and arms together

so that your wrists and pulses are touching.

- [Michael] When Emily came along and fell in love

with my son, I was so proud and thrilled

that my one concern I had was that he'd found somebody

to love him as a human being, as a man that he is.

I'm so proud of him.

It's just, I need to understand him,

what he went through, and I don't understand.

And honestly we need to talk and talk lots, he and I,

about his experience.

I wanna listen to him, everything,

the whole journey he went through.

For me anyway, it's a continuing education on transgender.

Whatever happens in the future,

we're gonna be there for our kids.

And that's, as far as we are concerned, is all that counts.

- You make me happier than I ever thought I could be.

And I will spend the rest of my life

trying to make you feel the same way.

- [Emily] Kas, I vow to always have your back,

to each day, show you how much I love you.

I vow always be your best friend, partner,

and number one supporter.

No matter what life throws our way, I will always be yours.

- [Officiant] Emily and Kas, it is my honor

and absolute delight to now pronounce you

officially married.

(group cheers)

Begin it now with a kiss.

(group applauds)

♪ Hold me down slow

♪ Hold me down slow

♪ Hold me down slow

♪ Hold me down slow

(soft vocalizing)

- [Krow] When I had my chest surgery,

when it kept getting rescheduled, and rescheduled,

and rescheduled, it was to the point that I was like,

"If I don't get this done before my birthday,

I'm just gonna take..."

I'm just like in such a frantic state that I'm just gonna

take a knife to my chest and just do it myself,

and have the hospital deal with whatever repercussions.

- You don't wanna let things get out of control,

'cause then you have to take more.

And then the flip side you don't wanna...

- [Krow] So it was very taxing for me

to have to deal with such intense body dysphoria

and hating myself physically for such a long time.

And then having it be so close that I can make a change

and then having it be taken away from me

and taken away from me over and over again.

- For some reason, something seems like really lopsided

than everything else.

- [Krow] So yeah, I just, I definitely got into some

bad head spaces in between, but was able to pull through it.

Now this is the real mushroom hair.

Bye, Mom.

(soft vocalizing)

(vocalizing continues)

Hey, look at you!

- How's it going?

- Got a new haircut since the last I saw you.

Good to see you again.

- Nice to you too.

How was it?

- It was good.

I had to like reschedule 'cause I got an infection.

So that was really annoying to deal with.

- [Kas] You've waited long enough.

- Exactly.

- There's an emergency all of a sudden you're like,

"That can't...like, I've already got my hopes set on this."

- It's been two years, let me have it.

- Like, how was it when the bandages came off

and you saw your chest for the first time?

Amazing?

- Good. Yeah.

I mean, I still have like a tiny hole in my nipple

'cause the stitch like healed funny

and then it was stuck in there.

So I had to like get tweezers and take it out, yeah.

- [Kas] That sounds awkward.

You don't have any other scars, like?

- No, well aside I think that the scars from the tubes,

so drainage tubes, those are probably gonna be like,

more scar than nipples themselves.

So, you know, so yeah.

How did you feel after your whole surgery situation?

- (chuckles) I think I'm stronger also personally

and like emotionally after having endured it.

It was part of the process to get to feeling great, right?

But I don't regret a single second of it.

- [Krow] Yeah, it's hard to regret something that like

has such a positive impact on your life

- Yeah, that changes your life long-term.

The small hardship for the long-term

gain and benefit, right?

- [Krow] Oh yeah.

(soft vocalizing and guitar music)

This is coming up to almost three years

since I started testosterone,

but definitely three years since I decided

to start transitioning and just kind of go for it.

And I can definitely see a large improvement in my life

and how I'm feeling, how I feel about

how other people perceive me,

and just generally living as a guy.

Hey.

- [Dexter] Hey, there he is.

- [Lacey] How are you?

- Doing good.

- It's good to see you.

- [Krow] I definitely view myself as just a gay man

able to do or wear whatever is obviously

like, socially acceptable.

But I think that it comes more from a confidence

of being who I am and comfortable with who I am

and who I'm presenting as, versus before,

where I would be very like afraid to be seen a certain way

or thought of as a certain thing.

- The last time we were here was this exact same space.

That was about two and a half years ago.

I wanted to continue, you know,

something a little bit different.

- Sweet.

- [Dexter] Let's go take a look.

How have you been? - [Krow] Doing good.

- You better put on some weight.

- I'm attempting, slowly but surely.

- [Lacey] So I really kind of wanted to do more

of the street kind of vibe.

'Cause I think you have a really good look to pull that off.

- What do you think?

- New and fresh?

- Yeah. - Absolutely.

Well, something that you know we've done before,

but now in, you know, now we're doing it

with a whole new set of clothes.

and we'll get that out of you today.

- Oh, hell yeah.

- I feel like it's based around you a little bit.

'Cause you have a really cool, unique style.

- Thank you.

- [Lacey] And I think you can pull all this off.

Really cool pants.

- Oh yeah. I got the white jeans.

(both laugh)

- [Lacey] Yeah, that's kind of what I'm aiming for.

Awesome.

- So the biggest change that I noticed from the last time

we worked together is how happy you look.

You are radiating happiness and confidence.

It really, really shows and it's very nice to see.

- If he stands up straight.

If he stands up straight, this'll be cut off.

So now you have her to not piss off.

(laughs)

That's what you gotta do.

- Yo, yo yo.

- [Dexter] Think about it in a very like,

"I don't give a shit" kind of look.

It's not about, you know, looking pretty

and that sort of thing.

Have this out. - Lean back.

Yeah, lean back.

Do these kinds of movements.

And you can even give me profile.

You don't have to look at the camera every time,

but just make this be, you know, an exercise for you

to just try and move just like you did before.

But now it's a, you know...

- Now I feel a kind of male side.

- [Dexter] Yeah. - Yeah.

- [Dexter] You know it.

All right, here we go.

Okay. Good.

Keep moving, you're good.

Pissed off, like that.

Are these working?

- [Sonia] Dexter...

- [Lacey] Amazing.

- [Sonia] Your first shot, as always.

Look at your first time.

- [Dexter] First frame wonder?

- What's the first shot?

- [Dexter] God damn you!

(group laughs)

See? Great shot.

- [Sonia] That is so good.

- [Krow] Looks great.

Oh yeah.

- Okay, well let's all go home now.

(group laughs)

- [Lacey] Done and done.

- That looks fantastic.

Wow, what an amazing day.

An amazing day.

It was fantastic that right off the first frame

we got the attitude and that set the tone

for the entire day.

He was willing to unlearn some of the things

that I was already catching him doing.

He knew that he had to unlearn a lot of those things.

So he was very willing now that he's going after

the male model market.

Toward the end, it was effortless.

At the end he knew what he had to do.

He was more conscious with it this time.

And I think that was the breakthrough.

All right, ready?

One, two, three, go.

There was a lot riding on this production.

These shots were crucial.

There had to be something that would...

Actually, I like that.

Look down, look down, look down, look down.

That would really show his range.

Now you'll just be able to just turn this on and off, right?

- [Krow] Yeah.

- And your value, you know, in that, in that sense

will just skyrocket.

This is a beautiful, cohesive story

all put together.

Look at this, the steps that you've made.

This is all outside your comfort zone.

Look at you.

(laughs)

What do you think, Mom? - [Lisa] I love it.

- I absolutely love it, yeah.

- [Dexter] I think we accomplished a great deal here.

This is exactly what I had in mind,

but it's even better.

- I'm glad I could deliver.

- Yeah. Oh, this is fantastic.

I think we got a lot of great stuff, right?

So good job.

- Thank you so much. Fantastic work everybody.

(group claps)

- Thank you everyone.

- Yep. That's a wrap. Well done.

- [Krow] Thank you. - Fantastic.

- [Krow] My happiness scale...

If I was at a two in happiness before,

I'm probably at like a 25 out of 10. (laughs)

So...

(mellow R&B music)

- Hi.

- I'm Krow.

- Lovely to meet you, I'm Liz Bell.

Come on through.

I wanted to meet you because I have a great request

for an incredible show in Paris,

looking for trans men for their actually,

their women's show.

So they want a trans boy who is transitioning.

I know you've finished with your transition,

to wear men's clothes in the women's show.

- Nice.

- [Liz] Okay, so we're gonna head this way.

We'll start off by doing the digitals.

They wanna see you just the way you are

and then we'll do a walking video.

So we're gonna start over here.

You've been doing this a long time?

- Mhm.

- [Liz] You're seasoned.

- [Krow] Yeah.

- [Liz] Which is great.

This tank works so well.

- Oh, yes, lucky boy.

- Yeah, you see what I mean?

Isn't that perfect? - Yeah.

- [Lisa] Bam, bam, bam.

Think in your head.

Bam, bam, bam.

All the way down, strong and fast, okay?

What's gonna happen moving forward

is I'm gonna put together this material

and send it to the casting director.

Okay. Let's see.

- All right.

Hopefully they want to option you.

- [Krow] Sweet.

- [Liz] Sweet. That's perfect.

It's such a pleasure meeting you.

And I would love to represent you as a model in Vancouver.

I'll be your mother agent and place you around the world

and all that kind of stuff.

How does that sound to you?

- That sounds great.

- Fabulous.

Welcome to Liz Bell.

- Thank you very much. (laughs)

I'd like to thank my mom.

We were always very close, even before I transitioned.

So having her support there, like, really means a lot to me.

- This is the start of a whole brand new career for you.

And Paris.

So you be safe, you have fun.

- [Krow] Yeah, it's been amazing having her in my life

and having her just be part of this whole process

and this whole transition.

Just loving me for who I am.

(soft vocalizing)

When I transitioned, I was doing it for me.

And that meant that if I had to cut people out of my life

so that I could survive, so that I could be happy

with my life, that's the decision I had to make.

It was a big decision.

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I don't know if you can see in the very, very far corner

right over there, but yeah, that's the Eiffel Tower.

I'm in Paris.

Gonna do a little exploring around

and then I still have the casting to go to.

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So I don't really have any anxieties about

trying to be a male model.

I don't know if it'll go well or not,

but still gonna go in and hope for the best.

- Hey, welcome to Paris.

- Great to see you.

- Oh, great to see you.

Your big day.

- I know, right?

- Yeah, like your first big thing as a male model.

Like, it can't get better.

Louis Vuitton, can you imagine?

They had let me know that you're gonna be doing

like makeup tests, hair tests, things like that,

and then looks.

And then you'll walk and show them.

So walk like with that power we talked about.

- Yeah.

- So we'll go in.

- [Krow] All right, sounds good.

So I went to the job interview and I got it.

I'm gonna be walking in Fashion Week for Louis Vuitton.

So yeah, like, wow!

I don't know how many other trans men are gonna be there.

So I could be one of a couple.

I could be just one.

I don't know yet.

When I was doing the rehearsal, actually,

it was funny 'cause they had us do it twice.

Once in the outfit and then before the hair and makeup

and then once after the hair and makeup.

And both times when I was doing the walk,

they were saying like, "Oh my God, amazing,

fabulous, fantastic."

Like, they were just like throwing out compliments

and I had to like maintain my neutral expression

and not smile.

But yeah, I was like, "Oh my God, I'm so glad they like it."

The last time that I walked,

I wasn't even 18 yet at that point.

And I'm 22, almost 23 now.

It's interesting being comfortable after three years

in this body, to be able to like move the right way.

Luckily I don't have to deal with heels.

So, thank God I'm not a female model right now. (laughs)

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Starting as a female model at 12 years old

and then stopping after just reaching 18,

and then being able to switch over and become a male model,

and have Louis Vuitton as my first like real job,

just like out there, amazing.

- [Reporter] Spike! Spike!

Look here for one minute, please.

(cameras snapping)

(paparazzi yelling)

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The opportunity that this presents

and to be like that big of a bang

in the fashion world to start with, wow!

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(audience applauds)

- [Model] I enjoy fashion.

- [Photographer] Thank you so much.

- [Krow] Whatever you wanna do,

it doesn't matter what your job is

or what your career path that you wanna take,

your gender doesn't matter.

You know, you can change over.

You can be in between.

So what I'd like to say to the transgender community

is that it doesn't matter whether you're male,

female, in between, you can make your dreams come true.

Just keep trying, never give up. (chuckles)

And you could be here doing this, doing whatever you want.

Oh... (laughs)

- [Liz] Jessica's gonna come and give you a hug.

- [Krow] Absolutely. (laughs)

- [Jessica] It's been a great pleasure

to work with you Krow.

You're so inspiring to all of us.

- [Krow] Thank you so much.

- Working with you, My first runway way with you,

it's been great.

You're so inspiring to me, really.

I hope that you get to be really happy, okay?

- [Krow] Thank you so much.

- Really.

I hope that we can work together later, okay?

- Absolutely.

And hey, maybe we'll walk on Men's Fashion Week together.

- Maybe we can walk on Men's Fashion together.

- Yeah.

- Maybe I will be a male, by then.

- Yeah!

Who knows, right?

- I know, right?

Oh man.

- I love you.

- Thank you so much.

- Keep on being so strong, you're a hope to everyone else.

Think about all the people who doesn't have that strength

to be free, doesn't have that strength

to just face everyone's opinion

and everyone's bad feelings about us.

We just need to be humans.

That's what we need to be.

Gender doesn't matter, we are all humans.

And you're so inspiring for all of us.

- [Krow] Thank you so much.

- Louis Vuitton is the best, right?

- [Krow] I know, right?

- It made us free.

for people like me, who's not yet in transition,

gives us a chance to be free.

And that's amazing.

- Awesome.

- [Jane] I rise to support the motion

that this house supports SOGI 123

within our schools to help create safe

and inclusive learning environments.

- Trans kids exist, we know that.

And to pretend that they would just cease to exist

if we didn't talk about them, it's just baloney.

It's bogus, it deserves no place in this debate.

- Because it's amazing seeing that there's this many people

who would take their time so that they can help others

feel comfortable in the space that they share.

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