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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,103 --> 00:00:07,000 Deep within the Ozark Mountains, 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,689 a vicious creature lurks beneath the earth. 3 00:00:09,689 --> 00:00:12,482 Everybody's seen something that they can't explain. 4 00:00:12,482 --> 00:00:14,689 It surfaces to slaughter livestock 5 00:00:14,689 --> 00:00:16,793 and terrorize local residents. 6 00:00:16,793 --> 00:00:19,724 It definitely looks more reptilian and not a mammal. 7 00:00:19,724 --> 00:00:21,310 With a long, sharp tail... 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,103 and huge clawed feet. 9 00:00:24,103 --> 00:00:27,172 I emptied that rifle, still didn't seem to faze it. 10 00:00:28,586 --> 00:00:30,448 Hold on, hold on, I hear something. - Stop, stop. 11 00:00:32,482 --> 00:00:35,724 Tormenting the region since the 1800s... 12 00:00:36,689 --> 00:00:38,000 the monster is believed to den 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 in the underbelly of the Ozarks. 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Something has definitely been here before. 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,586 And sightings of the creature known as gowrow... 16 00:00:44,586 --> 00:00:46,379 Oh, my God, is that what I think it is? 17 00:00:46,379 --> 00:00:48,206 ...continue to be on the rise. 18 00:00:48,206 --> 00:00:49,482 Right there, right there, he's going in the hole. 19 00:00:49,482 --> 00:00:51,517 Ssh! Guys, guys, guys, guys. 20 00:00:51,517 --> 00:00:53,896 In mid-20th century, 21 00:00:53,896 --> 00:00:56,689 scientist Ivan Sanderson set out to separate 22 00:00:56,689 --> 00:00:58,517 fact from fiction. 23 00:00:58,517 --> 00:01:00,931 He investigated hundreds of frightening encounters 24 00:01:00,931 --> 00:01:03,724 with unexplained creatures around the world. 25 00:01:03,724 --> 00:01:06,931 My next guest tonight is one of the world's leading naturalists, 26 00:01:06,931 --> 00:01:10,379 accumulating material for some 30 years. 27 00:01:10,379 --> 00:01:12,896 As the founder of cryptozoology, 28 00:01:12,896 --> 00:01:14,482 he built the most extensive archive 29 00:01:14,482 --> 00:01:16,827 of unclassified creatures on Earth. 30 00:01:16,827 --> 00:01:18,379 There seem to be a lot of these creatures 31 00:01:18,379 --> 00:01:21,206 in our continent, in South America and Africa, 32 00:01:21,206 --> 00:01:23,000 and all of Asia. 33 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,586 But following his death in the 1970s, 34 00:01:25,586 --> 00:01:27,551 that archive disappeared... 35 00:01:28,379 --> 00:01:30,689 until now. 36 00:01:30,689 --> 00:01:33,827 Armed with modern tech and Sanderson's lost research... 37 00:01:33,827 --> 00:01:35,172 We need to take this and compare it 38 00:01:35,172 --> 00:01:36,413 to what's in the archives. 39 00:01:36,413 --> 00:01:38,482 ...a team of experts will reinvestigate 40 00:01:38,482 --> 00:01:40,172 his unexplained cases 41 00:01:40,172 --> 00:01:42,000 using up-to-the-minute research 42 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,689 and predator expertise. 43 00:01:43,689 --> 00:01:45,482 I've never seen wildlife do this. 44 00:01:45,482 --> 00:01:47,000 There's nothing like that that should be doing that here. 45 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,068 Holy. 46 00:01:49,068 --> 00:01:50,068 Can Sanderson's files 47 00:01:50,068 --> 00:01:52,000 lead to an incredible new insight... 48 00:01:53,793 --> 00:01:55,275 ...and take another creature from myth... 49 00:01:55,275 --> 00:01:56,620 Did you see that? 50 00:01:56,620 --> 00:01:57,965 ...to reality? 51 00:02:13,827 --> 00:02:17,793 Sanderson spent a not insignificant amount of time 52 00:02:17,793 --> 00:02:20,413 towards the end of his life looking into the Ozarks. 53 00:02:20,413 --> 00:02:22,724 More specifically, the caves in that region. 54 00:02:24,172 --> 00:02:25,931 "A long, spiny back creature, 55 00:02:25,931 --> 00:02:27,689 approximately 10 to 12 feet long, 56 00:02:27,689 --> 00:02:29,310 in a deep section of the river 57 00:02:29,310 --> 00:02:31,724 near several sunken car bodies"? 58 00:02:31,724 --> 00:02:34,172 He'd been knocking on the door of a major discovery 59 00:02:34,172 --> 00:02:35,482 of a reptile, a large one, 60 00:02:35,482 --> 00:02:37,413 all the way up until his death in '73. 61 00:02:38,379 --> 00:02:40,482 The last entry in his report here 62 00:02:40,482 --> 00:02:43,517 inside the binder was updated in 1972. 63 00:02:45,896 --> 00:02:49,275 There are a number of unexplored regions of our, uh, universe. 64 00:02:49,275 --> 00:02:52,275 In the summer of 1969, I began correspondence 65 00:02:52,275 --> 00:02:55,827 with, uh, Lawrence High of Kansas City, Missouri. 66 00:02:55,827 --> 00:02:59,689 He wrote to me that in the seemingly endless caverns of the Ozarks, 67 00:02:59,689 --> 00:03:02,379 there have been numerous recent sightings 68 00:03:02,379 --> 00:03:05,000 of a mysterious reptilian creature. 69 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,689 And now, considering it is not too far north, uh, climatically 70 00:03:08,689 --> 00:03:10,724 and there are still enormous areas 71 00:03:10,724 --> 00:03:12,103 of North and South America 72 00:03:12,103 --> 00:03:15,068 that have not been professionally collected, 73 00:03:15,068 --> 00:03:17,586 might it be possible that there is an indigenous, 74 00:03:17,586 --> 00:03:20,827 large, semi-aquatic lizard in this area? 75 00:03:21,896 --> 00:03:23,896 Sanderson was on the team who discovered 76 00:03:23,896 --> 00:03:25,586 the bioluminescent salamander. 77 00:03:25,586 --> 00:03:27,206 And they actually named the cave 78 00:03:27,206 --> 00:03:28,689 in the area after him. 79 00:03:28,689 --> 00:03:31,000 And I remember him talking a lot about 80 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,586 the possibility of other known undiscovered species 81 00:03:34,586 --> 00:03:36,931 living in the cave systems. 82 00:03:36,931 --> 00:03:39,827 So, I got a guy I think you might wanna talk to. 83 00:03:40,275 --> 00:03:41,448 His name is Lee. 84 00:03:41,448 --> 00:03:45,482 He's seeing some sort of large reptilian creature, 85 00:03:45,482 --> 00:03:47,758 he doesn't know what it is, on his property. 86 00:03:48,172 --> 00:03:49,413 And he believes 87 00:03:49,413 --> 00:03:51,655 it might be the creature they call the gowrow. 88 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,689 Reports of the gowrow date back to 1880 89 00:03:55,689 --> 00:03:58,896 and describe a 20-foot long, cave-dwelling ophidian 90 00:03:58,896 --> 00:04:01,379 with pointed spines on its back 91 00:04:01,379 --> 00:04:03,068 and a knife-like tail. 92 00:04:03,068 --> 00:04:05,827 Accounts went dormant at the turn of the century, 93 00:04:05,827 --> 00:04:08,620 but there's been a recent uptick in the Ozarks. 94 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,931 The first time the term "gowrow" appeared... 95 00:04:13,793 --> 00:04:16,172 describing this reptilian creature 96 00:04:16,172 --> 00:04:18,896 was 1897 in this article. 97 00:04:18,896 --> 00:04:20,379 On top of that original gowrow, 98 00:04:20,379 --> 00:04:22,931 we also had the one, if you remember, of 1935 99 00:04:22,931 --> 00:04:25,862 with Mr. Muff, who shot at the gowrow. 100 00:04:26,689 --> 00:04:28,000 This one charged at him, 101 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,620 and he unloaded all of his barrels 102 00:04:29,620 --> 00:04:31,586 into this thing, and it still came at him. 103 00:04:31,586 --> 00:04:35,689 If I'm not mistaken, it's not far from where Lee actually lives 104 00:04:35,689 --> 00:04:37,896 and is having these encounters. 105 00:04:37,896 --> 00:04:41,379 One of the things that has endeared me to Ivan Sanderson's research 106 00:04:41,379 --> 00:04:45,241 is his refusal to accept that we know everything. 107 00:04:46,689 --> 00:04:49,379 We have a century's worth of sightings of the gowrow, 108 00:04:49,379 --> 00:04:52,689 and we have Sanderson's belief that hidden animal species 109 00:04:52,689 --> 00:04:55,103 could be dwelling in the caves of the Ozarks. 110 00:04:55,793 --> 00:04:58,000 For me, this is an amazing opportunity 111 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,068 to continue Sanderson's work. 112 00:05:00,068 --> 00:05:01,896 So, we're heading to the Ozarks. 113 00:05:01,896 --> 00:05:04,206 Brittany and I are going to meet up with Troy and Justin, 114 00:05:04,206 --> 00:05:05,724 and speak with the eyewitnesses. 115 00:05:05,724 --> 00:05:07,793 We're hoping to determine once and for all 116 00:05:07,793 --> 00:05:09,620 what the gowrow might be. 117 00:05:12,379 --> 00:05:14,172 These creatures, while descendants 118 00:05:14,172 --> 00:05:15,896 of their terrestrial relatives, 119 00:05:15,896 --> 00:05:18,206 have evolved to withstand 120 00:05:18,206 --> 00:05:20,965 and perhaps even thrive in the depths of caverns. 121 00:05:21,517 --> 00:05:23,482 They lose primary organs, 122 00:05:23,482 --> 00:05:26,482 such as eyes, and mature to blindness. 123 00:05:26,482 --> 00:05:30,896 Surviving in the thick of any number of uncharted cave systems 124 00:05:30,896 --> 00:05:33,000 with subterranean shelter and evolution, 125 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,413 anything is possible. 126 00:05:47,793 --> 00:05:50,896 Sanderson actually was super into caves, 127 00:05:50,896 --> 00:05:55,172 and this area has hundreds of miles of uncharted caves. 128 00:05:55,172 --> 00:05:57,620 That sort of fed his belief that, you know, 129 00:05:57,620 --> 00:05:59,413 there are creatures out there. 130 00:06:00,172 --> 00:06:01,482 The Ozark Highlands 131 00:06:01,482 --> 00:06:03,793 is a 47,000-mile mountain range 132 00:06:03,793 --> 00:06:07,206 that stretches over Arkansas, Missouri and Oklahoma, 133 00:06:07,206 --> 00:06:11,137 with numerous rivers, lakes and countless unexplored caves. 134 00:06:11,827 --> 00:06:13,689 The sweeping peaks and low valleys 135 00:06:13,689 --> 00:06:17,586 are the habitats to bobcats, coyotes, large rafters, 136 00:06:17,586 --> 00:06:20,896 and consistent sightings of panthers. 137 00:06:20,896 --> 00:06:23,000 With many of the caves uncharted, 138 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,379 locals believe that other undiscovered predators 139 00:06:25,379 --> 00:06:27,620 may be lurking in the darkness. 140 00:06:29,689 --> 00:06:31,586 Through all the collective accounts, 141 00:06:31,586 --> 00:06:34,793 they are seeing very similar creature. 142 00:06:34,793 --> 00:06:40,448 And Lee has had the most amount of accounts on his property. 143 00:06:41,724 --> 00:06:44,586 The description of this creature is just fascinating 144 00:06:44,586 --> 00:06:47,103 because the body structure is extremely unique, 145 00:06:47,103 --> 00:06:51,482 a reptilian-type species with large tusks, 146 00:06:51,482 --> 00:06:53,931 on all fours, with a super long tail, 147 00:06:53,931 --> 00:06:59,275 and notably, spikes that ran down its back and on its tail. 148 00:06:59,275 --> 00:07:02,068 So then, essentially, we're looking for Bowser. 149 00:07:05,793 --> 00:07:07,172 Hold on. 150 00:07:07,172 --> 00:07:08,965 All right, guys, so we're here. 151 00:07:13,724 --> 00:07:14,724 - Hi, Lee. - Hello. 152 00:07:14,724 --> 00:07:15,724 How are ya? 153 00:07:15,724 --> 00:07:17,310 Thank you for meeting with us. 154 00:07:17,931 --> 00:07:19,517 My name is Lee Evans. 155 00:07:19,517 --> 00:07:22,103 I've been here pretty much all my life off and on. 156 00:07:22,103 --> 00:07:25,103 I did a lot of hunting when I was a younger man. 157 00:07:25,103 --> 00:07:27,068 Well, I've spent enough time outdoors 158 00:07:27,068 --> 00:07:31,000 that I know what kind of animals I'm gonna see when I'm outside. 159 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,206 I know that you've had multiple encounters on your property. 160 00:07:34,206 --> 00:07:35,896 Would you mind kind of walking us through 161 00:07:35,896 --> 00:07:36,931 what those encounters look like? 162 00:07:36,931 --> 00:07:38,517 No, I don't mind at all. 163 00:07:38,931 --> 00:07:40,517 There's so many of 'em, 164 00:07:40,517 --> 00:07:41,931 I don't even know where to start. 165 00:07:43,172 --> 00:07:45,689 My kids and grandkids were over, 166 00:07:45,689 --> 00:07:48,379 and the grandkids had gone down to the pond, and... 167 00:07:49,793 --> 00:07:52,689 ...they come running back up after about 15 minutes, 168 00:07:52,689 --> 00:07:53,896 and they were hollering, "Poppy, Poppy!" 169 00:07:53,896 --> 00:07:56,000 I went down there. 170 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,517 And there was something in the pond 171 00:07:57,517 --> 00:07:59,896 that was just rolling and boiling the water. 172 00:08:01,275 --> 00:08:03,379 Definitely looks more reptilian and not a mammal. 173 00:08:03,379 --> 00:08:06,379 And you could see the definition of the muscles. - Yeah. 174 00:08:06,379 --> 00:08:07,931 Um, so I went in the house, 175 00:08:07,931 --> 00:08:09,793 I got my rifle, I come outside, 176 00:08:09,793 --> 00:08:12,068 and I pumped 19 shots into whatever that was. 177 00:08:12,068 --> 00:08:13,482 Didn't faze it. 178 00:08:13,482 --> 00:08:15,000 I didn't even see blood. 179 00:08:16,482 --> 00:08:18,068 And then, you know you hit it? 180 00:08:18,068 --> 00:08:20,103 Oh, definitely hit it. Uh, I'm a veteran. 181 00:08:20,103 --> 00:08:22,724 I'm... I'm trained to hit the target. 182 00:08:22,724 --> 00:08:24,724 Arkansas is also known for caves. 183 00:08:24,724 --> 00:08:25,586 Yes. 184 00:08:25,586 --> 00:08:27,344 Do you know of any in this area? 185 00:08:28,103 --> 00:08:29,103 There are a few. 186 00:08:29,103 --> 00:08:31,103 There's not really any... 187 00:08:31,103 --> 00:08:34,103 real close by my property that I know of. - Okay. 188 00:08:34,103 --> 00:08:37,206 Can I ask you where exactly this happened? 189 00:08:37,206 --> 00:08:40,103 What I'm gonna do is I'll have them sit with you, 190 00:08:40,103 --> 00:08:42,275 and then I'll have me and Troy walk around the property, 191 00:08:42,275 --> 00:08:43,275 if... if that's okay with you? 192 00:08:43,275 --> 00:08:45,068 Yeah. There's a pond right over here. 193 00:08:45,068 --> 00:08:46,310 All right. 194 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:47,827 So, the culprits in that waterway 195 00:08:47,827 --> 00:08:49,103 that we would be looking at, 196 00:08:49,103 --> 00:08:51,000 thinking about it being something that he would see 197 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,275 would be an alligator snapping turtle, 198 00:08:53,275 --> 00:08:55,310 a large alligator, and... 199 00:08:56,482 --> 00:08:57,586 I can't think of anything else 200 00:08:57,586 --> 00:08:58,896 that would be big in that water. 201 00:08:58,896 --> 00:09:01,758 Alligators is not indigenous to this part of Arkansas. 202 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,586 While alligators are prevalent 203 00:09:04,586 --> 00:09:07,793 over 80 miles from Lee's farm in southern Arkansas, 204 00:09:07,793 --> 00:09:11,275 they are incapable of migrating long distances on land. 205 00:09:11,275 --> 00:09:14,275 With short legs and a torso that drags along the ground, 206 00:09:14,275 --> 00:09:16,413 they can only travel about a mile per day, 207 00:09:16,413 --> 00:09:19,241 and depend on waterways to help them move swiftly. 208 00:09:20,689 --> 00:09:21,793 There are miles of land 209 00:09:21,793 --> 00:09:23,103 between here and the nearest water source. 210 00:09:23,103 --> 00:09:24,275 It would be very unlikely 211 00:09:24,275 --> 00:09:26,103 for an alligator to migrate up here. 212 00:09:26,103 --> 00:09:28,275 But if a reptile like Lee is describing 213 00:09:28,275 --> 00:09:31,793 is on this property, it's gonna be in that pond. 214 00:09:31,793 --> 00:09:35,000 All right, so I guess what we'll do is we'll case the property, 215 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,793 look for any evidence of anything large 216 00:09:36,793 --> 00:09:38,310 moving through, any predator. 217 00:09:40,689 --> 00:09:42,379 What we're looking for down here 218 00:09:42,379 --> 00:09:43,896 is any type of behavior 219 00:09:43,896 --> 00:09:46,103 from something large, a large predator in the area. 220 00:09:46,103 --> 00:09:48,724 Rather it be whatever he thought he saw-- - A slide. 221 00:09:48,724 --> 00:09:51,724 A slide, a den, a hole. 222 00:09:52,689 --> 00:09:54,000 There's a lot of animals 223 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,310 in the water that will kinda, you know, use the shoreline 224 00:09:56,310 --> 00:09:58,482 or dead trees or trees that are living, 225 00:09:58,482 --> 00:10:00,896 and they'll dig up underneath that. 226 00:10:00,896 --> 00:10:03,793 And if we're looking at something like an alligator snapping turtle, 227 00:10:03,793 --> 00:10:06,413 they can hold their breath a long, long time. 228 00:10:07,586 --> 00:10:09,103 Alligator snapping turtles 229 00:10:09,103 --> 00:10:11,103 are the largest known freshwater turtles 230 00:10:11,103 --> 00:10:12,586 in the Western Hemisphere. 231 00:10:12,586 --> 00:10:15,000 With spiked ridges along its thick shell 232 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,620 and an elongated tail, 233 00:10:16,620 --> 00:10:19,586 the testudino can weigh over 300 pounds. 234 00:10:19,586 --> 00:10:24,103 Their powerful jaws exert a bite force of 1,000 pounds per square inch, 235 00:10:24,103 --> 00:10:27,758 snapping through logs or human arm with ease. 236 00:10:29,103 --> 00:10:30,689 So, you're getting in the water. 237 00:10:30,689 --> 00:10:31,620 I'm getting in the water? 238 00:10:31,620 --> 00:10:32,793 I'm not getting in the water. 239 00:10:32,793 --> 00:10:34,000 I gotta get in the water? - Yes, sir. 240 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,137 I'm dipping biscuits? 241 00:10:35,137 --> 00:10:36,206 - Always. You always do. - I'm making it now. 242 00:10:36,206 --> 00:10:37,931 You always do. Let's just do it. 243 00:10:39,482 --> 00:10:43,103 I've tracked and captured all different kinds of animals. 244 00:10:43,103 --> 00:10:45,689 All right, we're talking about alligators, crocodiles, 245 00:10:45,689 --> 00:10:47,827 a lot of invasive species. 246 00:10:47,827 --> 00:10:49,689 I tend to remain extremely calm 247 00:10:49,689 --> 00:10:51,793 no matter what the situation is, 248 00:10:51,793 --> 00:10:56,000 and that, I think, has saved my life on countless occasions. 249 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,000 As far as all these different witness accounts 250 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,241 and the uptick in the witness accounts, 251 00:10:59,241 --> 00:11:01,827 I just wanna know what the hell people are saying. 252 00:11:02,172 --> 00:11:03,827 Let me bury my feet. 253 00:11:04,896 --> 00:11:06,586 Lee mentioned that he shot what he thought 254 00:11:06,586 --> 00:11:09,827 was the gowrow in the pond. 255 00:11:09,827 --> 00:11:12,620 So, Justin's gonna dive into that pond where it was last seen 256 00:11:12,620 --> 00:11:15,241 and look for any signs of whether it's dead or alive. 257 00:11:18,206 --> 00:11:20,896 If anything were to happen... 258 00:11:20,896 --> 00:11:23,758 there's few people in this world that I trust to have my back. 259 00:11:24,689 --> 00:11:26,620 One of them is standing right in front of me. 260 00:11:26,620 --> 00:11:28,793 So, if anything goes down and I need help, 261 00:11:28,793 --> 00:11:30,103 he will get his ass in the water. 262 00:11:30,103 --> 00:11:31,827 I will. 263 00:11:31,827 --> 00:11:33,896 Now, what I'm doing is I'm digging down 264 00:11:33,896 --> 00:11:36,103 as far as I can with the mud, 265 00:11:36,103 --> 00:11:37,931 so that if there's anything big, 266 00:11:37,931 --> 00:11:40,241 it will be buried and hunkered down in there. 267 00:11:41,275 --> 00:11:42,586 So, you really do have to be careful. 268 00:11:42,586 --> 00:11:43,689 It is extremely dangerous. 269 00:11:43,689 --> 00:11:45,137 There's no visibility whatsoever, 270 00:11:45,137 --> 00:11:48,482 so what I have to do is use my appendages to feel what's in there. 271 00:11:48,482 --> 00:11:51,689 Just grab my gray Flexfit hat 'cause I'mma go under. 272 00:11:51,689 --> 00:11:52,724 Switch. 273 00:11:54,586 --> 00:11:56,000 Thanks. 274 00:11:57,172 --> 00:12:00,310 So, if there is a gowrow, or whatever the hell it is, 275 00:12:00,310 --> 00:12:01,896 or an alligator, or anything, 276 00:12:01,896 --> 00:12:04,241 this would be the dumbest way to do what I'm about to do. 277 00:12:10,172 --> 00:12:12,000 Predators will leave remnants 278 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,827 of what they've been doing anywhere they are. 279 00:12:15,896 --> 00:12:19,827 If anything's alive or dead in that pond, Justin will find it. 280 00:12:24,793 --> 00:12:26,310 I can't, Troy! 281 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:28,862 Dude, I up, but... 282 00:12:29,793 --> 00:12:30,965 - Troy! - Bring it here. 283 00:12:30,965 --> 00:12:33,000 Why are you staring at me? Come get me. 284 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Because I know you're good. 285 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,172 It's dragging me under. Oh, God! 286 00:12:37,827 --> 00:12:39,413 All right, well... 287 00:12:39,413 --> 00:12:40,793 That's amazing, dude. 288 00:12:40,793 --> 00:12:42,413 What do we have, a little red-eared slider? 289 00:12:42,413 --> 00:12:44,103 Giant predator you've all been looking for. 290 00:12:44,103 --> 00:12:45,103 He's a predator. 291 00:12:45,103 --> 00:12:46,896 Baby. 292 00:12:46,896 --> 00:12:48,655 Oh, stop biting me, boy. 293 00:12:49,310 --> 00:12:50,517 Look at that. 294 00:12:52,413 --> 00:12:54,310 That, my friends, is the gowrow. 295 00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:55,482 Case closed. 296 00:12:55,482 --> 00:12:57,103 I mean, frankly, 297 00:12:57,103 --> 00:12:59,000 we might not be dealing with the gowrow here. - What is he doing? 298 00:12:59,793 --> 00:13:01,724 Don't be drinking that stuff, man. 299 00:13:03,517 --> 00:13:04,896 Okay, hey, bud. 300 00:13:04,896 --> 00:13:06,103 I scaled the whole thing. 301 00:13:06,103 --> 00:13:07,103 I've gone back and forth. 302 00:13:07,103 --> 00:13:08,413 There's no carcass in here. 303 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,482 Right there, right under that tree, 304 00:13:11,482 --> 00:13:13,517 the farther I dig, the colder it gets. 305 00:13:15,689 --> 00:13:17,827 It looks like this thing may be actually spring fed. 306 00:13:17,827 --> 00:13:18,758 It's colder. 307 00:13:18,758 --> 00:13:21,000 Well, that means that there's an aquifer 308 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,310 and there's an opening under here, 309 00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:24,068 and it could go anywhere. 310 00:13:24,068 --> 00:13:25,275 So, if you think of an aquifer, 311 00:13:25,275 --> 00:13:26,689 it's a big underwater cave 312 00:13:26,689 --> 00:13:30,379 that moves water all underneath everybody and everywhere. 313 00:13:30,379 --> 00:13:33,827 Over 30% of Earth's freshwater is underground. 314 00:13:33,827 --> 00:13:36,172 Aquifers are natural formations 315 00:13:36,172 --> 00:13:38,000 that connect underground water systems 316 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,413 to the surface through natural springs. 317 00:13:42,103 --> 00:13:44,689 All right, so if I get past the soot and, 318 00:13:44,689 --> 00:13:46,137 can you see the small bubbles? 319 00:13:46,137 --> 00:13:48,034 Okay, here we go. Watch this. Watch it. - Yeah, yeah. 320 00:13:51,896 --> 00:13:53,379 That's freshwater coming up. 321 00:13:53,379 --> 00:13:54,965 That's incredible! 322 00:13:56,413 --> 00:14:00,482 This means that there are large cavities... 323 00:14:00,482 --> 00:14:03,482 definitely filled with water on this property. - Okay. 324 00:14:03,482 --> 00:14:08,724 So, my guess is that the cavity that we're standing above 325 00:14:08,724 --> 00:14:11,241 is connected to other cave systems. 326 00:14:12,482 --> 00:14:14,482 So, what this means is that there's water 327 00:14:14,482 --> 00:14:16,103 coming from an unknown source. 328 00:14:16,103 --> 00:14:17,793 We don't know what's filling the aquifer. 329 00:14:17,793 --> 00:14:20,517 Whether it's a cave or a other source of water. 330 00:14:22,103 --> 00:14:23,068 The creature could be using it 331 00:14:23,068 --> 00:14:25,103 to travel in and out of this area. 332 00:14:25,103 --> 00:14:27,689 We have to go find that source. 333 00:14:27,689 --> 00:14:30,448 It could help lead us directly to this mysterious creature. 334 00:14:44,482 --> 00:14:46,724 - Drew. - Hey, Charlie. 335 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,896 After discovering aquifers in the pond 336 00:14:49,896 --> 00:14:52,068 where the mysterious creature was last seen 337 00:14:52,068 --> 00:14:55,310 and no notable caves listed on maps of the area, 338 00:14:55,310 --> 00:14:58,000 Charlie contacts a local hydrologist 339 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,103 to find a cave mouth that could connect to Lee's pond. 340 00:15:01,103 --> 00:15:02,896 Drew Westerman, I'm a hydrologist 341 00:15:02,896 --> 00:15:05,000 for the federal government. I get to study, uh, 342 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,448 how water moves both above and below ground. 343 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,379 I'm a caver at heart. 344 00:15:09,379 --> 00:15:10,586 I've been following my dad through caves 345 00:15:10,586 --> 00:15:12,172 since I was about 14. 346 00:15:12,172 --> 00:15:13,379 And so I've been both studying 347 00:15:13,379 --> 00:15:15,068 and exploring caves my whole life. 348 00:15:15,068 --> 00:15:16,931 Here's the geological survey I've got for you. 349 00:15:16,931 --> 00:15:17,793 Yeah. 350 00:15:17,793 --> 00:15:19,517 So, if we follow this river, 351 00:15:19,517 --> 00:15:22,068 we know that there are all kinds of springs, 352 00:15:22,068 --> 00:15:24,931 caves along this area. 353 00:15:24,931 --> 00:15:26,758 - Okay. - Unfortunately, we don't know 354 00:15:26,758 --> 00:15:27,896 where all the caves are. 355 00:15:27,896 --> 00:15:29,551 But what we do know in that area... 356 00:15:30,103 --> 00:15:32,413 we need to focus on right here. 357 00:15:33,068 --> 00:15:34,275 - Okay. - Right here. All right? 358 00:15:34,275 --> 00:15:37,310 Along this river, we have lots of springs, 359 00:15:37,310 --> 00:15:40,586 notable springs that are contributing flow 360 00:15:40,586 --> 00:15:42,275 that are coming out of cave systems. 361 00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:45,103 Well, the farm we were at is right here. 362 00:15:45,103 --> 00:15:46,379 - And it's close. - Right? 363 00:15:46,379 --> 00:15:48,793 I would be willing to bet you are sitting 364 00:15:48,793 --> 00:15:50,586 on top of a large cave system 365 00:15:50,586 --> 00:15:52,310 that you just haven't found yet. 366 00:15:53,275 --> 00:15:54,586 Putting all the pieces together, 367 00:15:54,586 --> 00:15:56,758 knowing what we know now, 368 00:15:56,758 --> 00:15:58,689 there's a cave system under Lee's ponds. 369 00:15:58,689 --> 00:15:59,758 According to legends, 370 00:15:59,758 --> 00:16:01,482 the gowrow was a cave creature, 371 00:16:01,482 --> 00:16:03,275 and Sanderson believed that these caves 372 00:16:03,275 --> 00:16:05,206 could support previously undiscovered life. 373 00:16:05,206 --> 00:16:09,000 So, our next steps are obviously trying to go underground. 374 00:16:10,275 --> 00:16:12,137 We just have to find the entrance. 375 00:16:12,793 --> 00:16:14,482 Okay. How do we get in there? 376 00:16:14,482 --> 00:16:17,103 I think I can get you to the nearest access point 377 00:16:17,103 --> 00:16:19,827 that may get you into a large underground cavern. 378 00:16:22,275 --> 00:16:23,379 I believe we will uncover 379 00:16:23,379 --> 00:16:24,862 a great number of discoveries 380 00:16:24,862 --> 00:16:28,379 in the darkness of the Ozark Caverns. 381 00:16:28,379 --> 00:16:31,896 In my eyewitness research, I detailed an explorer 382 00:16:31,896 --> 00:16:34,931 that was scouring the Arkansas underground 383 00:16:34,931 --> 00:16:37,586 when he came upon a large reptilian creature 384 00:16:37,586 --> 00:16:39,275 that was nine feet long. 385 00:16:39,275 --> 00:16:41,758 In fear of his life, he rappelled back up 386 00:16:41,758 --> 00:16:43,896 the cave opening to escape. 387 00:16:43,896 --> 00:16:46,137 Now, this is merely one account of many. 388 00:16:47,172 --> 00:16:48,517 Are we going the right way? - No, here. 389 00:16:48,517 --> 00:16:50,068 This way. There's a runoff. We're good here. 390 00:16:50,068 --> 00:16:51,448 - Let's go. - Oh. Okay. 391 00:16:52,413 --> 00:16:53,896 The next morning, 392 00:16:53,896 --> 00:16:57,000 the team heads off to the northern side of the Ozark forest, 393 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,793 an area marked by Drew, the hydrologist, 394 00:16:59,793 --> 00:17:03,172 as the location of hidden caves. 395 00:17:03,172 --> 00:17:05,586 Honestly, guys, based off of Ivan Sanderson's work 396 00:17:05,586 --> 00:17:07,517 with the cave systems in Arkansas, 397 00:17:07,517 --> 00:17:09,586 if what Drew is saying is right, 398 00:17:09,586 --> 00:17:12,379 we might actually stumble upon an entrance point 399 00:17:12,379 --> 00:17:15,172 that would literally validate the neo dinosaur 400 00:17:15,172 --> 00:17:17,379 or the theory of the gowrow for me. 401 00:17:17,379 --> 00:17:18,310 But we need to find a cave 402 00:17:18,310 --> 00:17:20,586 and find if there's food and water inside 403 00:17:20,586 --> 00:17:23,206 said cave, if we find a cave. 404 00:17:26,172 --> 00:17:27,206 In order to find a cryptid 405 00:17:27,206 --> 00:17:29,172 to remain hidden for so long, 406 00:17:29,172 --> 00:17:31,793 they need to live in a habitat that is hard to find. 407 00:17:31,793 --> 00:17:34,517 So, if we find hidden caves in this region, 408 00:17:34,517 --> 00:17:38,586 that could mean there is life coming and going, sustainable life, 409 00:17:38,586 --> 00:17:40,310 which means any large predator 410 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:42,689 would be using that life to feed on 411 00:17:42,689 --> 00:17:46,620 and utilize as a place and resource for it to live, thrive and survive. 412 00:17:48,379 --> 00:17:49,827 We gotta go up into that manhole. 413 00:17:49,827 --> 00:17:51,620 Yeah, there was a path over there I was trying to hit. 414 00:17:52,689 --> 00:17:54,448 Longer and get more out. 415 00:17:55,413 --> 00:17:56,862 This is it? 416 00:17:59,758 --> 00:18:02,586 Uh, that's definitely a cave entrance, guys. 417 00:18:02,586 --> 00:18:05,103 - Okay. - We need to mark where we've been... 418 00:18:05,103 --> 00:18:06,586 - Okay. - ...so that we can find our way back out 419 00:18:06,586 --> 00:18:07,689 if we get turned around. 420 00:18:07,689 --> 00:18:09,310 - We have maps to start with. - Okay. 421 00:18:09,310 --> 00:18:10,586 Yeah, we got glow sticks. 422 00:18:10,586 --> 00:18:12,793 And peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. 423 00:18:12,793 --> 00:18:14,379 I do think we should stick with the glow sticks. 424 00:18:14,379 --> 00:18:16,137 Well, I'm gonna bring those, too. 425 00:18:17,586 --> 00:18:18,896 Let's do it. 426 00:18:28,172 --> 00:18:29,448 We're gonna have to get some lights on, 427 00:18:29,448 --> 00:18:30,793 seeing that it's getting dark. - Yeah, lights. 428 00:18:30,793 --> 00:18:32,379 Lights, lights. 429 00:18:32,379 --> 00:18:35,000 So, a few high-level goals for going into the caves, 430 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,827 one, identify any potential signs of life. 431 00:18:38,379 --> 00:18:40,103 Two, water. 432 00:18:40,103 --> 00:18:42,275 If we can find an entry point to the pond 433 00:18:42,275 --> 00:18:44,000 that connects to this cave, 434 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,931 the creature could be using that, 435 00:18:45,931 --> 00:18:48,000 and maybe we can track it back to its den. 436 00:18:49,896 --> 00:18:52,137 Whoa, this is wild, dude. 437 00:18:54,413 --> 00:18:57,172 Yo, let's keep, uh, low voices. - Yeah. 438 00:18:57,172 --> 00:18:59,000 - Guys? - Yeah. 439 00:19:03,931 --> 00:19:06,310 We split up, I'll take Brittany, you take Charlie. 440 00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:08,103 Run it as quickly as possible. 441 00:19:08,103 --> 00:19:10,586 We'll take the short, tiny one. 442 00:19:10,586 --> 00:19:12,344 Whoever gets back first, just wait, all right? 443 00:19:13,172 --> 00:19:14,758 Not knowing which passageway 444 00:19:14,758 --> 00:19:18,310 could connect to Lee's pond, the team decides to split up. 445 00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:21,310 Justin and Brittany head down the southern passageway, 446 00:19:21,310 --> 00:19:23,896 while Troy and Justin head into the northern tunnel. 447 00:19:25,206 --> 00:19:26,551 There's an opening here. 448 00:19:28,586 --> 00:19:30,310 We need to focus on being quick here. 449 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:34,000 Realistically, this could be something's home. 450 00:19:36,379 --> 00:19:38,793 So, we have a very special tool at our disposal. 451 00:19:38,793 --> 00:19:41,000 It's a spherical 360 camera, 452 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,206 and usually, it's used in military 453 00:19:42,206 --> 00:19:43,758 and law enforcement situations. 454 00:19:45,275 --> 00:19:47,620 You throw it into the space that you want to investigate 455 00:19:47,620 --> 00:19:48,827 before walking in... 456 00:19:49,172 --> 00:19:50,275 It's big in there. 457 00:19:50,275 --> 00:19:52,000 It opens up. 458 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,862 It's huge in there. 459 00:19:53,862 --> 00:19:55,310 What is that? Is that a hole? 460 00:19:55,310 --> 00:19:57,310 I don't know what that is. 461 00:19:57,310 --> 00:20:00,275 ...so you're immediately aware of any potential dangers. 462 00:20:00,275 --> 00:20:02,241 It's instant situational awareness. 463 00:20:03,482 --> 00:20:04,862 You all right? 464 00:20:04,862 --> 00:20:07,103 Whoa! It's crazy in here, Charlie. 465 00:20:07,103 --> 00:20:07,965 Yeah? 466 00:20:13,310 --> 00:20:16,275 Holy smokes. It really opens up. 467 00:20:16,275 --> 00:20:17,413 It does. 468 00:20:19,689 --> 00:20:20,655 Jeez! 469 00:20:23,793 --> 00:20:25,655 - You know what this is? - No. 470 00:20:26,862 --> 00:20:28,034 It's urate. 471 00:20:28,862 --> 00:20:30,000 Like, excrement? 472 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,275 Yes, urate is... is... is the way 473 00:20:32,275 --> 00:20:36,310 a reptile kinda digests calcium. 474 00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:38,793 Urates are white, semi-solid acid salts 475 00:20:38,793 --> 00:20:42,103 that are made up of the urine and feces of most reptiles. 476 00:20:42,103 --> 00:20:46,172 When dried, it leaves a chalk-like substance behind. 477 00:20:46,172 --> 00:20:49,103 - Are you sure? It's massive. - This is urate. 478 00:20:49,103 --> 00:20:53,379 Reptiles do it, snakes, iguanas, monitor lizards. 479 00:20:53,379 --> 00:20:56,103 Even tortoises will pile up a big bunch of it sometimes. 480 00:20:56,103 --> 00:20:58,586 Urate lasts a long time. It's kind of like a... 481 00:20:58,586 --> 00:21:00,896 The best way to describe it is like chalk. 482 00:21:00,896 --> 00:21:03,241 It makes me think that we got a big thing in here. 483 00:21:04,068 --> 00:21:05,689 This is obviously from a large animal. 484 00:21:05,689 --> 00:21:07,172 I mean, normally, if it was at my place, 485 00:21:07,172 --> 00:21:08,896 it'd be one of my crocodiles, alligators, 486 00:21:08,896 --> 00:21:10,586 or one of my large anacondas. 487 00:21:10,586 --> 00:21:11,931 Um, when they defecate, 488 00:21:11,931 --> 00:21:14,000 what they consume, a lot of calcium, 489 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,965 comes out with it, 490 00:21:14,965 --> 00:21:17,172 and it comes, in layman terms, as urate. 491 00:21:17,172 --> 00:21:18,620 I can't explain how this got in here, 492 00:21:18,620 --> 00:21:21,000 other than a large animal must 've come in here and done this. 493 00:21:21,931 --> 00:21:23,241 If not an alligator, 494 00:21:24,103 --> 00:21:25,827 has to be some other kind of large reptile. 495 00:21:30,862 --> 00:21:33,379 Brittany, this is so big, dude, 496 00:21:33,379 --> 00:21:34,931 we're gonna get lost. 497 00:21:35,275 --> 00:21:36,206 Lookit. 498 00:21:36,206 --> 00:21:38,310 Do you see how smooth this is in here? 499 00:21:38,896 --> 00:21:40,586 Dude, that's gotta be water. 500 00:21:40,586 --> 00:21:42,103 I'm sure this is under water at some point. 501 00:21:42,103 --> 00:21:43,724 Fills all the way up. 502 00:21:44,482 --> 00:21:47,862 Honestly, if we find a large body of water in these cave systems, 503 00:21:47,862 --> 00:21:49,206 the potential of finding a predator 504 00:21:49,206 --> 00:21:51,551 or some type of animal is very high. - 505 00:21:52,862 --> 00:21:54,137 Obviously, you heard that. 506 00:21:55,482 --> 00:21:57,310 That sounded like it came from this direction. 507 00:22:01,689 --> 00:22:03,517 - There is water right here. - What? 508 00:22:05,620 --> 00:22:07,172 A big one. 509 00:22:07,172 --> 00:22:09,620 There's only one way through, which is water. 510 00:22:09,620 --> 00:22:11,482 I don't know what's around the corner. 511 00:22:11,482 --> 00:22:12,931 I have to come through the water 512 00:22:12,931 --> 00:22:14,931 and then back around the corner. 513 00:22:14,931 --> 00:22:17,000 And I gotta figure out if we have a space to get through. 514 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,586 Hopefully we do. 515 00:22:18,586 --> 00:22:21,931 You'll be able to fit through? - Oh, yeah. 516 00:22:28,275 --> 00:22:29,896 All right, B, just wait here. 517 00:22:29,896 --> 00:22:32,413 After it's clear, I'll have you come through. 518 00:22:39,517 --> 00:22:40,379 All right. 519 00:22:44,172 --> 00:22:45,482 It looks like it could be water. 520 00:22:45,482 --> 00:22:47,310 I'll check and then let you know. 521 00:22:52,103 --> 00:22:53,689 J, you good? 522 00:22:53,689 --> 00:22:54,724 Yeah, hold on. 523 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,586 Can I fit? 524 00:23:04,586 --> 00:23:06,275 - All right, B. - Yeah. 525 00:23:06,275 --> 00:23:09,034 I need you to come through, be real calm. 526 00:23:09,689 --> 00:23:11,724 It's really, really tight. 527 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,931 Right on towards me. 528 00:23:20,172 --> 00:23:21,931 Oh, my gosh. All right. 529 00:23:21,931 --> 00:23:24,413 Wait until you see what you're about to have to deal with. 530 00:23:27,689 --> 00:23:30,344 Okay. 531 00:23:33,689 --> 00:23:35,758 I can't fit through with my bag. 532 00:23:39,275 --> 00:23:40,793 Okay. 533 00:23:40,793 --> 00:23:42,206 All right. 534 00:23:42,482 --> 00:23:44,344 Oh,. 535 00:23:51,965 --> 00:23:54,689 The water part's easy. - 536 00:23:54,689 --> 00:23:57,172 Don't think about what's behind you. 537 00:23:57,172 --> 00:24:00,482 On a search for a cave creature known as the gowrow, 538 00:24:00,482 --> 00:24:02,034 Justin and Brittany have uncovered 539 00:24:02,034 --> 00:24:03,896 an underground water source. 540 00:24:04,965 --> 00:24:07,206 - Where's the top? - Right here. 541 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Oh,. I don't-- 542 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,275 Always gotta pack like we're leaving for eight weeks. 543 00:24:15,172 --> 00:24:16,896 J, do you mind getting this? 544 00:24:16,896 --> 00:24:18,448 All right, B, come on up. 545 00:24:18,448 --> 00:24:20,000 Personally, don't wanna be laying like this 546 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,896 - for a long time under Earth. - Come on. Come on. 547 00:24:21,896 --> 00:24:23,172 I gotta give this to you. 548 00:24:23,172 --> 00:24:24,689 Lying on my hands. 549 00:24:24,689 --> 00:24:26,586 Come on. I know, steady. - 550 00:24:28,965 --> 00:24:30,896 - You know what? - You got your water. 551 00:24:36,241 --> 00:24:37,275 Ugh. 552 00:24:41,689 --> 00:24:43,517 - Ooh. - You okay? 553 00:24:46,758 --> 00:24:48,413 Oh, my. 554 00:24:50,482 --> 00:24:52,000 Justin and Brittany have uncovered 555 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,551 an underground water source. 556 00:24:54,551 --> 00:24:59,137 Being able to find all that water in the cave is like a game changer. 557 00:24:59,137 --> 00:25:01,793 And this water source could connect to this pond, 558 00:25:01,793 --> 00:25:04,344 which means whatever he saw could live here. 559 00:25:04,344 --> 00:25:08,000 It's possible it's using waterways to travel in and out of the cave. 560 00:25:09,275 --> 00:25:11,000 - Oh, my God. - It's falling from the roof. 561 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,448 I don't know if you can see it with the light, 562 00:25:14,448 --> 00:25:16,793 but there's a lot of water falling through this. 563 00:25:18,448 --> 00:25:20,482 It looks like there's more caverns up there. 564 00:25:20,482 --> 00:25:25,793 And two, we have a bunch of different entrances, exits. 565 00:25:25,793 --> 00:25:27,413 - Look at this. - Oh, God, yes. 566 00:25:28,172 --> 00:25:29,965 Look, watch. 567 00:25:29,965 --> 00:25:31,275 Oh, my God, look at his little hands. - Look. 568 00:25:31,275 --> 00:25:32,551 What is it? 569 00:25:32,551 --> 00:25:34,000 It's a little crayfish. 570 00:25:35,275 --> 00:25:37,793 And this is exactly what we were looking for. 571 00:25:37,793 --> 00:25:39,448 We're looking for a water source, 572 00:25:39,448 --> 00:25:40,965 we're looking for wildlife. 573 00:25:40,965 --> 00:25:41,896 And we have something here. 574 00:25:41,896 --> 00:25:43,241 And this is a perfect example 575 00:25:43,241 --> 00:25:45,965 of adaptation to a cave system. 576 00:25:45,965 --> 00:25:47,241 We turn all our lights off. 577 00:25:47,241 --> 00:25:50,241 There is absolutely no light in here. 578 00:25:50,241 --> 00:25:51,689 None whatsoever. 579 00:25:51,689 --> 00:25:54,344 So, this little crayfish right here has no pigment, 580 00:25:54,344 --> 00:25:55,896 because it doesn't need it. 581 00:25:55,896 --> 00:25:58,862 So, for years and years and years, 582 00:25:58,862 --> 00:26:00,275 these things have evolved 583 00:26:00,275 --> 00:26:02,689 to be able to survive in cave systems like this. 584 00:26:02,689 --> 00:26:04,000 So, he's looking around... 585 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,379 Well, he's not looking around, he's blind. 586 00:26:06,379 --> 00:26:07,896 Doesn't need to see, he can't see, 587 00:26:07,896 --> 00:26:09,931 it's completely dark. 588 00:26:10,793 --> 00:26:12,068 The white crayfish, 589 00:26:12,068 --> 00:26:14,758 also known as the Benton County cave crayfish, 590 00:26:14,758 --> 00:26:16,103 is a cave dwelling species 591 00:26:16,103 --> 00:26:19,689 found in just three cave systems in Arkansas. 592 00:26:19,689 --> 00:26:21,586 Little is known about the creature, 593 00:26:21,586 --> 00:26:23,793 as only limited observations have been made 594 00:26:23,793 --> 00:26:27,275 due to the remote location of its habitat. 595 00:26:27,275 --> 00:26:31,517 That means that there is sustainable life in this cave. 596 00:26:41,586 --> 00:26:42,413 I'll set up the audio. 597 00:26:42,413 --> 00:26:43,965 Why don't you set up the video? 598 00:26:43,965 --> 00:26:45,758 All right, I'll be up here doing that. 599 00:26:45,758 --> 00:26:48,482 After finding evidence of digestive calcium urate 600 00:26:48,482 --> 00:26:49,965 from an unknown animal, 601 00:26:49,965 --> 00:26:52,862 Troy believes this might be an active path of travel. 602 00:26:52,862 --> 00:26:56,586 The team sets up recording devices in multiple passageways. 603 00:26:56,586 --> 00:26:58,655 So, from what we found in this cave, 604 00:26:58,655 --> 00:27:00,517 something has definitely been in here before. 605 00:27:01,034 --> 00:27:02,482 something may come back. 606 00:27:02,482 --> 00:27:04,379 I'm gonna rig up the audio recorder. 607 00:27:04,379 --> 00:27:05,793 We're gonna lower that into the hole, 608 00:27:05,793 --> 00:27:08,000 because I wanna hear if there's anything in that hole. 609 00:27:08,862 --> 00:27:10,482 So, we'll come back. 610 00:27:10,482 --> 00:27:11,896 We'll pull up the audio recorder, 611 00:27:11,896 --> 00:27:13,275 we'll review what it captured. 612 00:27:13,275 --> 00:27:15,103 It's a way of using resources that we have 613 00:27:15,103 --> 00:27:18,172 that Sanderson didn't, uh, further the research. 614 00:27:18,172 --> 00:27:20,758 The experiment is set. We need to get out. 615 00:27:20,758 --> 00:27:22,689 We need to meet Justin and Brittany 616 00:27:22,689 --> 00:27:24,896 and see what they've uncovered on their side. 617 00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:32,137 God, it's cold in here. 618 00:27:34,034 --> 00:27:36,655 Oh, my God, is that what I think it is? 619 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:38,586 Justin, make sure we bring some home, though. 620 00:27:39,379 --> 00:27:40,551 We have the slide. 621 00:27:40,551 --> 00:27:44,172 So, the slides are gonna be when very heavy animals 622 00:27:44,172 --> 00:27:46,689 that will pretty much drag themselves. 623 00:27:46,689 --> 00:27:48,172 Basically coming in and out of the water 624 00:27:48,172 --> 00:27:49,931 on a constant basis, right? 625 00:27:50,586 --> 00:27:53,000 An alligator, crocodilian, 626 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000 large reptiles like that, even smaller reptiles, 627 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,206 water monitors and things will create what's called a slide. 628 00:28:00,586 --> 00:28:04,965 Where I'm standing would be about the width of whatever this animal is. 629 00:28:04,965 --> 00:28:06,310 And then, if you look, 630 00:28:07,068 --> 00:28:11,655 we have what looks to be some claw marks here. 631 00:28:11,655 --> 00:28:14,689 We have a couple of claw marks here, here. 632 00:28:14,689 --> 00:28:16,172 If you really wanted to count 'em out, 633 00:28:16,172 --> 00:28:21,241 we got one, two, three, maybe a fourth one. 634 00:28:21,241 --> 00:28:23,586 The only real explanation I have for this 635 00:28:23,586 --> 00:28:25,793 it looks like something could be using this area. 636 00:28:26,896 --> 00:28:28,896 I don't really know what to say at this moment. 637 00:28:28,896 --> 00:28:32,689 All I can say is that we did find some type of life of a reptile, 638 00:28:32,689 --> 00:28:34,000 of some sort being down here. 639 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,137 Whether that's a gator or a gowrow at this point, 640 00:28:36,137 --> 00:28:37,793 it's not worth the debate. 641 00:28:37,793 --> 00:28:41,275 I'm just saying that there is some type of large reptile 642 00:28:41,275 --> 00:28:45,000 or something that shouldn't be here is here. 643 00:28:52,655 --> 00:28:55,000 After investigating the cave system, 644 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,827 the team gathers to discuss their recent findings. 645 00:28:59,448 --> 00:29:02,275 J, do you really think it's reptile, man? 646 00:29:02,275 --> 00:29:05,034 Honestly, based on the eyewitness accounts 647 00:29:05,034 --> 00:29:06,965 and what we saw down there in the cave, 648 00:29:06,965 --> 00:29:09,896 there was a big ass slide that looks like... 649 00:29:09,896 --> 00:29:11,793 I mean, it's a gator slide. 650 00:29:11,793 --> 00:29:14,482 Or there's still other options of, like, 651 00:29:14,482 --> 00:29:17,689 other types of prehistoric dinosaurs, neodinosaurs, 652 00:29:17,689 --> 00:29:20,172 a different type of reptilian that could be living down there. 653 00:29:20,172 --> 00:29:22,482 We can't just assume it's one or the other. 654 00:29:22,482 --> 00:29:25,689 - I can. You can't. - I can-- Okay. 655 00:29:25,689 --> 00:29:27,586 So, as far as the ecosystem in a cave, 656 00:29:27,586 --> 00:29:30,241 it's a lot more diverse than many people would think. 657 00:29:30,241 --> 00:29:31,965 A lot of people think just bats. 658 00:29:31,965 --> 00:29:33,379 Lots of animals that are adapted 659 00:29:33,379 --> 00:29:35,034 to living in low light scenarios 660 00:29:35,034 --> 00:29:36,586 and they survive very well. 661 00:29:36,586 --> 00:29:37,896 What's interesting though, 662 00:29:37,896 --> 00:29:39,344 is that there could be other wildlife 663 00:29:39,344 --> 00:29:41,137 that comes in from the surface. 664 00:29:41,137 --> 00:29:42,931 And we've just seen an example of that. 665 00:29:45,068 --> 00:29:46,620 In 2008, 666 00:29:46,620 --> 00:29:50,586 orange crocodiles were found in caves in Gabon, Central Africa. 667 00:29:50,586 --> 00:29:52,482 While they typically live in the forest, 668 00:29:52,482 --> 00:29:54,344 these mysterious cave crocodiles 669 00:29:54,344 --> 00:29:56,103 had an orange tint to them, 670 00:29:56,103 --> 00:30:00,586 which scientists believe was caused by an alkaline mix of water and bat guano. 671 00:30:00,586 --> 00:30:04,172 They were also larger in size and partially blind 672 00:30:04,172 --> 00:30:07,000 due to the lack of light inside the dark caves. 673 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,275 Here's the deal. 674 00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:13,034 What is called the "gowrow" could be a known animal 675 00:30:13,034 --> 00:30:16,000 that has been impacted by environmental factors. 676 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,068 What if there's just something 677 00:30:17,068 --> 00:30:19,379 that's been living in the caves all this time 678 00:30:19,379 --> 00:30:21,000 that's never seen the light of day? 679 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,793 It's not supposed to see the light of day. 680 00:30:22,793 --> 00:30:24,793 Because it's obviously come out, somebody shot it. 681 00:30:24,793 --> 00:30:26,586 But if, if it uses the tunnels, 682 00:30:26,586 --> 00:30:29,275 it uses the natural waterways that live within the tunnel-- 683 00:30:29,275 --> 00:30:31,379 That's a whole underground world. 684 00:30:32,655 --> 00:30:35,793 The biggest thing about Ivan Sanderson that I love and I appreciate 685 00:30:35,793 --> 00:30:37,586 was that he didn't stop 686 00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:39,689 when he thought there might've been a dead end. 687 00:30:39,689 --> 00:30:41,137 He kept pushing past that. 688 00:30:41,137 --> 00:30:42,793 And because he pushed past that, 689 00:30:42,793 --> 00:30:45,862 he found a luminous lizard found within caves 690 00:30:45,862 --> 00:30:48,379 that had not been known or documented by science yet, 691 00:30:48,379 --> 00:30:50,034 which is huge. 692 00:30:50,034 --> 00:30:54,103 And I really believe that there is potentially something living 693 00:30:54,103 --> 00:30:56,172 in the cave systems underground 694 00:30:56,172 --> 00:30:58,482 that science has not documented yet, 695 00:30:58,482 --> 00:31:00,758 and it's waiting to be discovered. 696 00:31:00,758 --> 00:31:01,896 Here's the bottom line. 697 00:31:01,896 --> 00:31:04,241 We all agree that we need to go back in the caves, 698 00:31:04,241 --> 00:31:07,482 and get to the bottom of what's living down there. 699 00:31:07,482 --> 00:31:09,586 There's, like, an endless possibility 700 00:31:09,586 --> 00:31:11,689 of discovery underneath the ground. 701 00:31:11,689 --> 00:31:14,310 I am going back to find the gowrow. 702 00:31:21,793 --> 00:31:23,758 One of the greatest debates 703 00:31:23,758 --> 00:31:26,965 has been how and why whole slews 704 00:31:26,965 --> 00:31:29,275 of apparently quite competent, productive 705 00:31:29,275 --> 00:31:31,241 and well-integrated life forms, 706 00:31:31,241 --> 00:31:34,068 uh, such as the so-called dinosaurs 707 00:31:34,068 --> 00:31:38,448 have from time to time just vanished from the fossil record. 708 00:31:38,448 --> 00:31:41,586 Yet the crocodilians, tortoises, snakes and lizards 709 00:31:41,586 --> 00:31:44,965 and the little tuatara of New Zealand survived. 710 00:31:44,965 --> 00:31:47,379 Therefore, the question must be posed. 711 00:31:47,379 --> 00:31:52,310 What if these relics have not vanished from the historical record 712 00:31:52,793 --> 00:31:54,586 and live among us, 713 00:31:54,586 --> 00:31:56,000 dwelling in corners of the Earth 714 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,620 man has left untouched? 715 00:32:02,862 --> 00:32:05,000 Rarely is information at the surface. 716 00:32:05,551 --> 00:32:07,413 It must be sought patiently. 717 00:32:08,275 --> 00:32:11,068 In order to uncover the true science or knowledge, 718 00:32:11,068 --> 00:32:14,655 one must dig deep, arrive to the core of the truth. 719 00:32:19,482 --> 00:32:20,344 All right, let's go. 720 00:32:22,689 --> 00:32:24,413 We are going back in 721 00:32:24,413 --> 00:32:27,862 to recover all of our cameras we set last night. 722 00:32:27,862 --> 00:32:30,000 We have a lot of footage to go over and review 723 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,448 and see if we captured anything. 724 00:32:31,448 --> 00:32:33,241 So, we really need to review the evidence. 725 00:32:36,241 --> 00:32:37,413 Charlie, what showed up on the cameras? 726 00:32:37,413 --> 00:32:39,103 Do you have anything on visual? 727 00:32:39,103 --> 00:32:40,344 Cameras were a dud. 728 00:32:40,344 --> 00:32:43,137 Uh, the microphone got a weird thing. 729 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,000 Do that again. 730 00:33:01,172 --> 00:33:04,068 - That sounds big. - Where was that at? 731 00:33:04,068 --> 00:33:05,275 It looks like an opening 732 00:33:05,275 --> 00:33:07,931 in the northern passage Troy and I were investigating. 733 00:33:08,896 --> 00:33:11,448 So, I'm gonna maintain eyes and ears here. 734 00:33:12,172 --> 00:33:13,482 Y'all go that way, 735 00:33:13,482 --> 00:33:16,758 and I will let you know if something is coming your way. 736 00:33:17,103 --> 00:33:18,482 Okay. 737 00:33:23,068 --> 00:33:25,172 Justin, Troy and Brittany are gonna start their hunt 738 00:33:25,172 --> 00:33:27,310 in the room where the recording was captured. 739 00:33:28,172 --> 00:33:30,862 It's entirely possible the room butts up 740 00:33:30,862 --> 00:33:33,448 against Brittany and Justin's waterfall. 741 00:33:33,448 --> 00:33:35,413 It does seem that whatever's in these caves 742 00:33:35,413 --> 00:33:38,896 is staying close to an area with a contained water source. 743 00:33:38,896 --> 00:33:40,206 Hopefully, the animal's nearby 744 00:33:40,206 --> 00:33:41,931 and the team will be able to find it. 745 00:33:42,551 --> 00:33:43,793 How far do you think we got? 746 00:33:44,896 --> 00:33:45,793 We're doing good. 747 00:33:45,793 --> 00:33:47,931 We're gonna go around this corner here. 748 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,068 So, right now, we're actually in 749 00:33:53,068 --> 00:33:54,965 what Troy's been calling the Devil's hole, 750 00:33:54,965 --> 00:33:57,793 and basically this is where that audio sound was recorded. 751 00:33:57,793 --> 00:33:59,448 So, right now we're trying to work as quickly 752 00:33:59,448 --> 00:34:02,034 and as quietly as possible to figure out what that was 753 00:34:02,034 --> 00:34:03,344 that made that sound. 754 00:34:04,172 --> 00:34:05,586 It's a little further. 755 00:34:05,586 --> 00:34:07,517 We gotta go up this way and regroup. - Okay. 756 00:34:13,793 --> 00:34:15,275 Here's where I found the urate. 757 00:34:17,206 --> 00:34:18,655 - Those are heavy. - We've got tracks. 758 00:34:18,655 --> 00:34:19,689 See? 759 00:34:20,413 --> 00:34:21,827 Tail tracks. 760 00:34:21,827 --> 00:34:23,000 Right there. Right there, right there, right there. 761 00:34:27,137 --> 00:34:28,793 Is there any more out there? 762 00:34:28,793 --> 00:34:31,517 Yeah, and it looks like the movement goes this way. 763 00:34:31,517 --> 00:34:33,068 - Oh,. - Great. 764 00:34:35,517 --> 00:34:38,034 Right there, these are all drag marks. - Yep. 765 00:34:38,034 --> 00:34:39,793 That's what you heard on the microphone. 766 00:34:39,793 --> 00:34:41,965 We have some tail drags. 767 00:34:41,965 --> 00:34:45,068 So, it's basically the end of the tail as they're walking, 768 00:34:45,068 --> 00:34:48,275 and it's just dragging along as if, if he props himself up 769 00:34:48,896 --> 00:34:50,034 and gets the body off the ground, 770 00:34:50,034 --> 00:34:51,586 all you get is a little tail. 771 00:34:52,172 --> 00:34:53,586 They out here too. 772 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,862 If you look right here, 773 00:34:55,862 --> 00:34:58,344 we have what would be the back foot 774 00:34:58,344 --> 00:35:00,068 digging out as it's going up. 775 00:35:01,689 --> 00:35:03,517 So, we have footprints and we have tail drag. 776 00:35:03,517 --> 00:35:05,000 And it looks like it's using this cave system 777 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,206 and it's getting in and out. 778 00:35:06,206 --> 00:35:08,000 Right in that corner, Justin, put your light on it, 779 00:35:08,896 --> 00:35:10,344 we have to go in there. 780 00:35:12,655 --> 00:35:14,862 So, Justin's gonna go ahead, I'm gonna go in the middle, 781 00:35:14,862 --> 00:35:16,862 Brittany will be behind me. 782 00:35:16,862 --> 00:35:19,413 And then you guys are gonna have to come too, if you wanna do this. 783 00:35:19,793 --> 00:35:20,827 All right. 784 00:35:24,793 --> 00:35:25,931 Oh, my gosh, dude. 785 00:35:34,689 --> 00:35:36,206 Hold on, hold on. 786 00:35:37,896 --> 00:35:41,103 What we're doing is we're following the tracks that we've seen. 787 00:35:43,448 --> 00:35:45,896 It's starting to open up. 788 00:35:45,896 --> 00:35:49,793 We maybe getting closer to it, so, please, please be careful. 789 00:35:53,206 --> 00:35:54,241 These are pretty fresh, 790 00:35:54,241 --> 00:35:56,620 and someone's moving back and forth in there. 791 00:36:02,965 --> 00:36:04,517 Troy. Troy, Troy, Troy! 792 00:36:04,517 --> 00:36:05,931 Right there, right there, he's going in that hole. 793 00:36:07,137 --> 00:36:08,586 - We got him, we got him. - Guys. 794 00:36:08,586 --> 00:36:10,413 Kill all those lights right there. - Kill the lights. 795 00:36:10,413 --> 00:36:11,275 Oh,. 796 00:36:11,275 --> 00:36:12,827 They have something. I gotta go. 797 00:36:14,896 --> 00:36:16,413 We got an alligator. 798 00:36:16,413 --> 00:36:17,620 What are you doing? 799 00:36:17,620 --> 00:36:19,586 - You get stuck in a cave? - It's okay, bubba. 800 00:36:19,586 --> 00:36:21,413 Well, then, we need to get him out. 801 00:36:21,413 --> 00:36:24,586 - All right, we can't-- - It's gonna be a hell of a chore. 802 00:36:24,586 --> 00:36:26,965 Well, this alligator definitely shouldn't be living down here. 803 00:36:26,965 --> 00:36:30,241 It must've used underground cave systems and waterways to migrate here. 804 00:36:30,241 --> 00:36:31,586 So, now we're gonna be able to take this animal 805 00:36:31,586 --> 00:36:33,931 and put it in a more suitable environment. 806 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,275 Oh, he's pissed. 807 00:36:39,275 --> 00:36:40,758 Everybody just give me some space, okay? 808 00:36:40,758 --> 00:36:41,758 A little bit. 809 00:36:41,758 --> 00:36:44,000 Give them room, give them room. 810 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,206 Oh,, oh,. 811 00:37:00,689 --> 00:37:01,827 He's a little angry. 812 00:37:03,103 --> 00:37:04,620 It's all right. 813 00:37:04,620 --> 00:37:05,793 Let him walk, let him walk. - Okay, he's pissed. 814 00:37:14,068 --> 00:37:15,862 Well, then, we need to get him out. 815 00:37:15,862 --> 00:37:18,931 What a up place to be with an alligator. 816 00:37:18,931 --> 00:37:20,517 Oh,, oh,. 817 00:37:20,517 --> 00:37:21,379 We don't like to interfere 818 00:37:21,379 --> 00:37:23,206 with any animals in any habitat. 819 00:37:23,206 --> 00:37:24,344 But because he's out of place, 820 00:37:24,344 --> 00:37:26,931 this gator will be killed and will die here. 821 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,000 Easy, buddy. 822 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,931 He's a little angry. 823 00:37:30,931 --> 00:37:32,344 We'll go easy. Let him off, let him off. 824 00:37:32,344 --> 00:37:34,034 Let him walk this way. This is perfect. 825 00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:35,448 He'll come to us. Here we go. 826 00:37:36,103 --> 00:37:37,379 Come on, bubba. 827 00:37:37,379 --> 00:37:38,241 I'm going for it. 828 00:37:40,413 --> 00:37:41,965 He got him, he got him. 829 00:37:41,965 --> 00:37:42,896 He's got it. 830 00:37:44,034 --> 00:37:46,241 All right. Justin's got him secured. 831 00:37:47,827 --> 00:37:49,413 You good? You good? You're good? 832 00:37:50,965 --> 00:37:51,965 Watch your fingers on that one. 833 00:37:51,965 --> 00:37:53,137 I got you. I got you. 834 00:37:53,827 --> 00:37:55,586 Easy there, tiger. 835 00:37:56,965 --> 00:37:58,206 - You ready? - Yes, I am. 836 00:37:58,206 --> 00:37:59,793 You got him? 837 00:37:59,793 --> 00:38:01,655 All right, so what we're gonna do is tape the jaws off, 838 00:38:01,655 --> 00:38:02,896 so it's safe for everybody. 839 00:38:09,655 --> 00:38:11,068 He didn't wanna be captured. 840 00:38:14,689 --> 00:38:15,896 - You're pretty. - He is. 841 00:38:15,896 --> 00:38:17,103 He's been hiding in the dark for a while. 842 00:38:17,103 --> 00:38:18,620 Look how dark he is. 843 00:38:18,620 --> 00:38:21,000 You can see here where he's been traveling through the cave. 844 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,344 So, what happens is it's real dark, 845 00:38:22,344 --> 00:38:24,241 they try to navigate themselves around. 846 00:38:24,241 --> 00:38:25,482 That really, really porous, tough skin, 847 00:38:25,482 --> 00:38:27,413 but you can see where he's cut himself a couple times, 848 00:38:27,413 --> 00:38:29,448 and that's just, like, 'cause he's trying to see in the dark. 849 00:38:29,448 --> 00:38:31,344 I think he just got stuck down here. 850 00:38:32,068 --> 00:38:34,068 So, this is what Lee has seen. 851 00:38:34,068 --> 00:38:36,931 Well, this one's here. There could be more. 852 00:38:36,931 --> 00:38:37,965 Blue crest on the spikes. 853 00:38:37,965 --> 00:38:39,965 Yes, and then, if you feel this too, 854 00:38:39,965 --> 00:38:41,793 - it's really tough skin. - Hi, buddy. 855 00:38:41,793 --> 00:38:45,931 So, a .22 from 100 yards away ain't gonna do much of nothing. 856 00:38:45,931 --> 00:38:46,827 What are the next steps? 857 00:38:46,827 --> 00:38:47,896 Like, who do we call? What do we do? 858 00:38:47,896 --> 00:38:49,068 We're gonna call somebody, 859 00:38:49,068 --> 00:38:50,758 but we gotta get him out of the cave, is the next step. 860 00:38:51,517 --> 00:38:52,758 - All right, ready? - Yep. 861 00:38:52,758 --> 00:38:54,965 He's gonna thrash. 862 00:38:54,965 --> 00:38:57,344 We're gonna work this animal out of this area. 863 00:38:57,344 --> 00:38:58,551 What we're gonna do, get a hold of someone 864 00:38:58,551 --> 00:39:00,448 that takes care of the wildlife, 865 00:39:00,448 --> 00:39:02,206 and we're gonna bring that animal to him. 866 00:39:04,241 --> 00:39:05,896 What do you got there? 867 00:39:05,896 --> 00:39:07,551 What's it look like, my guy? 868 00:39:07,551 --> 00:39:09,241 She's saying hi to you already. 869 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,517 I'm just glad we got him out of danger. 870 00:39:15,517 --> 00:39:16,620 He would've died in the cave 871 00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:18,206 or if he got out, somebody might've shot him. 872 00:39:18,206 --> 00:39:21,793 I would call today 100% success. 873 00:39:29,965 --> 00:39:32,344 I think we can reasonably explain away 874 00:39:32,344 --> 00:39:35,620 what Lee was experiencing and what people are seeing recently... 875 00:39:35,620 --> 00:39:37,517 - Mmm-hmm. - ...is a known animal. 876 00:39:37,517 --> 00:39:39,000 - The gator. - Right. 877 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,379 But it's worth considering that the historical account 878 00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:43,172 of the gowrow is still wide open. 879 00:39:43,172 --> 00:39:45,517 Right, because we have hundreds... - Yes. 880 00:39:45,517 --> 00:39:47,896 ...if not thousands of miles of cave. - Yep. 881 00:39:47,896 --> 00:39:52,206 We have unknown species being discovered every year. - Yep. 882 00:39:52,206 --> 00:39:53,931 And the gowrow, to me, 883 00:39:53,931 --> 00:39:56,275 could be an undiscovered species. 884 00:39:57,482 --> 00:39:59,379 But for me personally, though, after being in those caves 885 00:39:59,379 --> 00:40:01,068 and learning how uncharted it was, 886 00:40:01,068 --> 00:40:04,724 and the fact that we actually did find something inside the cave, 887 00:40:04,724 --> 00:40:06,965 and I'm not even talking about the alligator. 888 00:40:06,965 --> 00:40:08,517 - Right. - The crawfish. 889 00:40:08,517 --> 00:40:10,310 Literally found a way that takes it all the way back 890 00:40:10,310 --> 00:40:13,310 to what Darwin was talking about about evolution. 891 00:40:13,310 --> 00:40:15,724 I still think that those gowrows could still be out there. 892 00:40:15,724 --> 00:40:17,482 We can't take that off the table yet. 893 00:40:17,482 --> 00:40:19,586 This just solved one part of the mystery. 894 00:40:20,689 --> 00:40:22,931 The alligator isn't the only thing that we found. 895 00:40:22,931 --> 00:40:25,000 Justin and I discovered an underground water source 896 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000 that connected to ponds above the ground. 897 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,448 And that means that there could be numerous waterways 898 00:40:29,448 --> 00:40:34,103 for unknown creatures like the potential gowrow to traverse through. 899 00:40:34,896 --> 00:40:36,000 For the recent accounts, 900 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,137 we are able to explain a known species. 901 00:40:38,137 --> 00:40:40,758 But for the historical accounts... - That I agree. 902 00:40:40,758 --> 00:40:43,448 ...we still have to leave two wide open. 903 00:40:43,448 --> 00:40:45,206 The gowrow could very well be the species 904 00:40:45,206 --> 00:40:46,586 we just haven't discovered yet. 905 00:40:46,586 --> 00:40:48,758 Something that's evolved over hundreds of years, 906 00:40:48,758 --> 00:40:51,310 thousands of years or even a Lazarus species. 907 00:40:51,310 --> 00:40:53,655 I still think that those gowrows could still be out there. 908 00:40:53,655 --> 00:40:54,931 We still had some areas in that cave 909 00:40:54,931 --> 00:40:57,448 that we didn't get a chance to get into. 910 00:40:57,448 --> 00:40:58,586 I would like to get back out there, 911 00:40:58,586 --> 00:41:00,137 but we can make a reasonable conclusion 912 00:41:00,137 --> 00:41:01,965 that something is happening there. 913 00:41:07,034 --> 00:41:08,206 The skeptics will only believe 914 00:41:08,206 --> 00:41:10,241 when hard facts are presented to them. 915 00:41:10,241 --> 00:41:14,482 But for us, the few who push the boundaries of discovery, 916 00:41:14,482 --> 00:41:17,586 we stop only when faced with an answer. 917 00:41:17,586 --> 00:41:21,620 We believers are willing to uncover species previously unknown, 918 00:41:22,172 --> 00:41:24,068 regardless of how outlandish, 919 00:41:24,068 --> 00:41:27,724 the more skeptical scientists think them to be. 920 00:41:27,724 --> 00:41:30,137 But when in spite of our differences, 921 00:41:30,137 --> 00:41:33,551 the skeptics and the believers combine forces, 922 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,000 we can provide paths 923 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,551 for findings greater than ever before. 71122

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