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- Why sing?
- Why do you sing?
- Well, because I get to experience
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a lot of feelings, it's really a lot of fun. You get a feel all kinds of things
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that you can hardly find if you went to parties all year round
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and made it with everyone you ever wanted to.
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Because you get to feel things that are in your imagination
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and are the real truth. That's why I like music, because it's creative
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and as it's happening creates feelings.
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What could I feel if I attended your concert tonight?
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I'd like you to feel like standing up and jumping up and down in time with the music
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and get sweaty and just go with the music. Just go with it.
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Like, rock-and-roll's very rhythmic, that's what it's all about, you know.
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It's one, two, three, four.
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# Ye-ah
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# You thought you had found yourself a good girl
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# One who would love you and give you the world
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# Then you find out that you've been misused
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# Come to me, honey I'll do what you choose
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# I want you Well, tell mama all about it
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# You tell mama what you feel
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# Tell your mama, babe what you want
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# Tell your mama, babe what you need
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# What you want What you need
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# What you want, whoa
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# I'll make everything all right
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# I tell you When you get lonely... #
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I figure everybody does, huh?
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Because, as a matter of fact, everybody does.
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I'll tell you what you need, baby, when you get those strange thoughts in your head,
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you don't know where they came from, man. You get those strange, little weirdnesses
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happening to you, you don't know what they are.
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I'll tell you what you need.
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# You need a sweet loving mama babe.
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# Honey, a sweet talking mama, babe
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# You know, somebody to listen to you
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# Someone to want you Someone to hold you
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# Someone to need you Someone to use you
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# Someone to want you Someone to need you
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# Someone to hold you
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# You need a mama-ma-ma ma-ma mama, babe
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# Go to a mama-ma-ma-ma, yeah
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# Mama-ma-ma-ma-mama
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# Tell mama all about it
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# Tell mama all about it
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# What you need What you want
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# Anything I can do
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# Anything I can do
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# I'll be your mama, babe Yeah, your mama, babe
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# Whoa, your mama, babe Your mama, babe
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# Whoa, mama, babe Whoa, mama, babe
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# Wow! I'll make everything all right. #
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RAUCOUS CHEERING
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"Dear family, I managed to pass my 27th birthday
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"without really feeling it.
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"It's such a funny game.
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"Two years ago, I didn't even want to be in it.
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"No, that's not true. I've been looking around and I've noticed something.
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"After you reach a certain level of talent -
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"and quite a few have that talent - the deciding factor is ambition.
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"Or, as I see it, how much you really need.
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"Need to be loved and need to be proud of yourself.
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"And I guess that's what ambition is,
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"it's not all a depraved quest for position or money.
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"Maybe it's for love, lots of love.
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"Hah! Janice."
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Port Arthur - to a lot of people, it was a really good town to grow up in.
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I never thought so. Janice never thought so
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and she couldn't figure out how to make herself
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like everybody else.
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Thank goodness.
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# And if my love could take a walk... #
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Our parents, I'm not exactly sure how they actually met,
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but they started dating after mother had gone away to college
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and come back and started working.
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Daddy was a mechanical engineer, but he was able to get a job
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because at that time so many people were away fighting, you know.
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So he got a job at Texaco and he stayed there his entire working life.
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And he came home from work one day and told mother,
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"Let's do something for posterity."
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So, that's Janice being born in 1943.
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She joined the choir and they kicked her out of the choir.
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She wouldn't follow directions and they said, "You're out!"
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Like most women, Janice wanted to be beautiful and curvaceous and skinny
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like the pictures that she saw in magazines.
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And she saw herself, you know, gain weight and get chunky,
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her skin broke out and her features weren't that fine, beautiful female
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that we see in pictures everywhere.
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And so she had questions about her own desirability.
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# It don't make no difference, babe yeah
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# I better hold it now
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# I better need it, yeah
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# I better use it till the day I die... #
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She demanded to be different.
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You know, our parents had given us permission to do it
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and then weren't aware of what would happen if you did it.
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Janice was the first one in our family to find that out.
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That if you are rocking the boat
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you might get noticed and she rocked the boat as often as she could.
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She liked rocking the boat.
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The world was changing and I think that Janice's interpretation
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of what being good was included things that a lot of people
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in the South weren't yet ready to include.
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She said I think integration is the right thing to do.
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Well, our hometown had an active KKK chapter
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and what happened was she was harassed by some guys in her class,
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they threw pennies at her, they called her names
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and she became a target for the last three years of high school.
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She started dressing differently, wearing loafers without socks
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and tight skirts. Her hair was becoming more like a beatnik
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and still there was an aspect of her sexuality and her personality
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that was at odds. Where does she go? What does she do?
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She was pushing the limits and women weren't supposed to swear
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and women were supposed to be demure
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and not know that anything existed below their waistlines.
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I met her in high school and she wouldn't go away.
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She was always calling us up, one of us or the other
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and say, "What are you doing tonight? Where are we going?"
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She was a lot of trouble. We went to Louisiana and she would start fights,
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which we didn't want started because the Cajuns were known
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good fighters, but she got a kick out of it just playing the bad girl.
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She wasn't a bad girl, but she just liked to bait the men.
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You know, we would deny all knowledge of her
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and barely escaped with our lives.
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That made her real dangerous to take to a bar.
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I mean, she was amusing. So, we took her to the beach with us.
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She borrowed some records which were obscure.
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One of them was a record by Odetta.
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# Love,
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# Oh, love Oh, careless love... #
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All of a sudden, she busted into a perfect imitation of Odetta
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on the record and everybody was just stunned.
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This little troublesome kid, you know, can sing that well.
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# Oh, love Oh, love
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# Oh, careless love
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# Oh, love, oh, love Oh, careless love
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# Well, love Oh-oh, love
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# Oh, careless love... #
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This particular night, Janice said let's go see this wonderful Austin
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you're always talking about.
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So, we pulled in at 5:30 in the morning
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and you could hear music...
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..and it wasn't recorded music, it was live music
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and Janice grabbed my arm and she said, "Jack, I'm going to like it here."
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Well, that's when I discovered that I had an incredibly loud voice.
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So, I started singing blues, because that was always what I liked.
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And, you know, I got a bluegrass band,
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played hillbilly music in Austin, Texas, for free beer.
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I used to sing in folk clubs just for goofs.
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We called ourselves the Waller Creek Boys...
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..and instantly Janice became one of the boys.
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People just stared open-mouthed
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and she was not ever accepted, really,
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except by the folk community.
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Growing up, her peers picked on her and bullied her
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and by the time she got to Austin and by the time I knew her,
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she had already been profoundly hurt over and over.
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And so in Austin, it was the same way.
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Every year, the fraternities held a contest
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and people could nominate someone to be ugliest man
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and someone nominated Janice and all these jerks voted for her...
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..and it crushed her.
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Saddest thing I ever saw, you know. It really was.
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Till that point, I'd never seen Janice cry.
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Janice had a very tough exterior.
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But it really got her bad
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and I said, "Janice, they don't mean anything to you.
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"They're...They're not even in your class."
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It became increasingly harder to fit into a group of angry,
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angry men who liked to pick on her.
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Even though she ran around with a tight group of friends who
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were into books and ideas, she needed to go out to where
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the people were that wrote those books.
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Where the people were that sang those songs.
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Where does she go? What does she do?
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# I just had to get out of Texas, baby
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# Lord, it was bringing me down... #
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When did you come to San Francisco?
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In about '63 was when I couldn't stand Texas any more
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and I went to California, because it's a lot freer
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and you can do what you want to do and nobody bugs you.
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'15,000 San Franciscans protest segregation in Birmingham.
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'Negro and white citizens marching in unity for equality in San Francisco.'
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We used all hang out at a bar called the Anxious Asp
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on Green Street, North Beach.
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We went to a party one night and, you know, with a little bit of wine
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and a little bit of, you know, whatever,
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We kind of got to talking and two weeks later she moved in with me.
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Sometime we went down to Monterey
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and she would sing in the hootenannies
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and she would win tickets for us to get to the main arena.
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One time, we went there and there was Bob Dylan, her idol.
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And she walks up to him and she said, "Oh, Bob. I just love you!
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"You know, I'm going to be famous one day." He said, "Yeah.
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"We're all going to be famous." I'll never forget that.
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SHE LAUGHS
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She definitely felt the blues.
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Bessie Smith and all the blues singers, she loved those people.
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And I think she emulated them in the sense of wanting to be like them.
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You know, to have the pain.
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I guess that's why she drank like she did and took drugs
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because that's all part of the whole picture.
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She definitely needed people to tell her how great she was
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and she needed that stroking all the time.
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I don't think she was with girls to shock people, I think
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she was with girls because that's what she felt at the moment.
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And I think she was totally in a conflict all the time with herself.
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Constantly.
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And she was unhappy, she was quite unhappy and I think on the stage
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it made her feel that she was somebody, you know.
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That she had something to offer.
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I said, I just think this is not working for both of us,
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you want to go off and do things with other people
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and I'm not strong enough to handle that.
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She got with this English fellow and they were into shooting up
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and stuff like that and that was never my style.
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You know, I could just never get into that.
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Janice was in North Beach and she developed an intense relationship
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with Peter de Blanc, then Janice got into methedrine.
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Janice told me that they were living in that building
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behind Tommy's joint
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and had not a stick of furniture
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and Peter was just sitting there for hours on end
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throwing a Super Ball against the wall and catching it...
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..and she was skin and bones.
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She used - overused - lost weight,
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got so strung out that her group of friends
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held a party and they passed a hat to get enough money
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to put on a Greyhound bus and send her back home.
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# A woman left lonely... #
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She and Peter decided that they both needed to get their lives cleaned up
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and would go to their home towns and get their lives together
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and then they'd get together and get married.
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# She'll do crazy things, yeah-eh
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# On lonely occasions... #
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"Dear Peter, well, I'm home now.
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"I have your picture on the desk where I do my homework
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"and everyone in the family has seen it at least three times.
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"Everyone agrees you're handsome,
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"I really love you.
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"In attempting to find a semblance of a pattern in my life,
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"I find I have gone out with great vigour every time
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"and gotten really fucked up.
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"All I did was be wild, drink constantly, fucked people, sang.
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"In San Francisco, kind of wanting to find an old man and be happy,
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"but I didn't. I just found Linda and became a meth freak.
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"Christ, I want to be happy so fucking bad."
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# ..for granted, Lord, yeah
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# Honey, she doesn't understand
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# No, no... #
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He came home at one point and met the family
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and asked our father formally for her hand in marriage.
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"Well, now it's Saturday and your letter didn't come.
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"So, I'm very sad and moping around the house and mother's worried.
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"Baby, what's happening?
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"You could really be hurting me and hell, I couldn't tell.
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"Am I still happy?
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"Do I still have you?"
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She was embarrassed that he wasn't going to show up after
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she had told her mum and dad that he was.
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He was evidently living with a woman who had gotten pregnant
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and Janice only discovered that when she happened to call him
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and this woman answered the telephone.
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Did you ever go back to Port Arthur?
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I went back once, it was a bummer.
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I ain't going back again! No, it's no good.
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Chet asked me to come and see his new band and that's when
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I heard that Big Brother was auditioning women.
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So, I went by his house and said, you know, I'm going to go home
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I can ask about Janice, if you like.
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And she found out that I was there and we spent the whole day
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talking about what was going on since she had left
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and we should go and see a rock and roll band
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and there's one playing around the corner.
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Didn't have anything to drink because she was sober
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and we listened to, I think, two songs and she turned to me
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and she said, "That's what I want to do!" So I said, "OK. Let's go figure this out."
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He said I'm not going to go and take you until you tell your parents.
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He waited in the car while Janice went in to tell our parents.
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Janice went in and said she was going to Austin for the weekend and left
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and went to San Francisco.
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# I guess I'm going to make it somehow
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# But you made nothing with me darling... #
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"Mother and dad, with a great deal of trepidation,
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"I bring the news -
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"I'm in San Francisco.
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"Now, let me explain.
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"Chet Helms is an old friend, now he's Mr big in SF.
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"He encouraged me to come out,
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"it seems the whole city had gone rock and roll and it has.
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"And he assured me fame and fortune, so I came.
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"I'm so sorry.
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"My love to Mike and Laura. Love, Janis."
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MUSIC: Down On Me by Big Brother and The Holding Company
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# Looks like everybody in this whole round world
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# They're down on me Come on... #
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I would pick her up and I'd drive her back to where she was staying.
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I mean, she was always like, I don't know whether this
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is going to work out. I probably, I should go back to Texas.
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I don't know if I should do this. She had a lot of misgivings.
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She was very afraid of drugs.
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She said, I don't ever want to see anybody shooting drugs.
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I can't stand to see that, because if I see that,
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it's just going to take her out so much.
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She came out to San Francisco and had this coffee-house career.
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She almost died that time, she lost all this weight
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and she went back to Texas
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and, you know, her mother said, if you ever go back out there again, you're going to die.
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# When you see a hand that's held out towards you
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# Give it some love... #
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- Did your parents encourage you to sing at all?
- Oh, no, no, no.
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They wanted me to be a schoolteacher, you know.
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Like all parents.
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But I just started singing when I was about 17.
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I listened to a lot of music first, you know,
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and one day I started singing and I could sing. It was like,
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it was a surprise.
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To say the least.
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# Said jack o'diamonds Said jack o'diamonds
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# Whoa-oh, I know you of old
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# Honey, you robbed me out of my silver
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# And out of all my gold... #
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"Dear Mother and Dad, Daddy brought up the college issue, which is good,
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"because I probably would have continued avoiding it till it went away.
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"I don't think I can go back now.
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"I don't know all the reasons, but I just feel this is a truer feeling, true to me.
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"I don't feel like I'm lying now."
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# Now see the cuckoo she's a cruel bird
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# And she warbles when she flies... #
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"I have to see this through first. If I don't, I'd always be
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"thinking about singing and being good and known
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"and feel like I cheated myself, you know."
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# Well, say goodbye well, say goodbye
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# Ooh-hoo-hoo... #
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"Weak as it is, I apologise for being so just plain bad at the family.
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"I'm just sorry.
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"Love, Janis."
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Folk blues, you know. I was a folk singer, you know,
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and sang blues mostly. Country blues, old-time blues, slow...
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- Didn't you have a job soldering once?
- Soldering?
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No, a keypunch operator.
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I was a waitress in a bowling alley once, too.
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Playing is the life, the most just fun there is.
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Feeling things and really getting into it. That's fun.
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# Amazing Grace
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# Well, how sweet the sound
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# That saved a sinning wretch like me... #
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At that time, there was definitely a sense of camaraderie.
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If you knew the Grateful Dead had a house on Ashbury, you know,
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it wouldn't be unlikely that if you were in the neighbourhood,
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you'd just drop by and hang out with those guys
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and smoke a joint or something like that.
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# A sinning wretch like me... #
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We were all, sort of, riding the same wave, in a sense.
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All part of the same scene and all shared, in some ways, the same values
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that we were part of this counterculture revolutionary music thing
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that was going to, you know, change the world.
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# Na-na-na-na Na-na-naaa, woo... #
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She was just funny, unassuming, sexy,
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and sort of a, a kind of like,
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almost a sort of Huck Finn innocence to her.
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The absolute child-woman ideal of The Haight.
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Well, I met Janice as a romantic interest
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for one of my bandmates, Pigpen, Ron McKernan.
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We called him the mighty pig.
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It was an on again, off again little affair that they had.
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And on the nights that Janice would come over and visit,
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I got very little sleep because Janice was not real quiet in the rack.
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So, all night long, it would be, "Daddy, daddy, daddy!"
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All that kind of stuff. I mean, endlessly.
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"Isn't Pigpen cute?
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"They make Pigpen T-shirts now with his picture on it for fans.
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"I have one in red.
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"Those people are all friends of mine, aren't they amazing?
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"The people with stars after their names are members of the band.
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"I'm in the back, on the left, really an amazing picture.
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"They weren't dressed up, they looked that way all the time.
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"Now, taken in perspective, I'm not so far out at all, eh?"
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There was a party, there was a party in the city
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in an apartment on California Street.
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Someone opened this bottle of this stuff that is called Cold Duck.
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- You don't see it around much.
- Sparkling wine.
- Sparkling wine.
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And it started to go around the room and people were taking chugs of it
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and Janice took a big swig of it and someone said to Janice, "Oh, man.
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"You must really want to get high."
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And she said, "What?!"
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And someone said, "Yeah, there is, like, 68 hits of acid in that bottle."
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Anyway, she ran into the bathroom and tried to throw up.
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# They don't forget it Love is their whole... #
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But she got very high anyway and we went from this party to The Fillmore.
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# Have a little tenderness
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# Yeah
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# All you got to do is
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# Everybody just has to
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# Get on up, get on up
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# Get on up, get on up
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# Now get on up
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# I got to... #
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And Otis Redding was, I think,
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in his second night and it was his second show. They did two shows.
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So there weren't a lot of people there.
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And I remember sitting with her.
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We sat down in the middle of the floor
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and Otis Redding came out with his band.
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# Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
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# You got to, got to, got to... #
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I think when she saw him and saw the way he moved
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and how he interpreted a song, I really think
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it very much affected her.
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I mean, literally, she'd start doing this, "Gotta, gotta, gotta,"
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she stole that.
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# Got to, got to, got to
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# Oh... #
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Billie Holiday, Aretha Franklin, they are so subtle,
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they can milk you with two notes.
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They could go no further than from A to B
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and they could make you feel like they've told you the whole universe.
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You know? And Otis, oh, Otis.
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My man. But, I mean, I don't know that yet.
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All I've got now is strength but maybe if I keep singing,
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maybe I'll get it. That's what I think.
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In the very beginning, she didn't take over as,
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"I'm the singer, I'm the lead singer."
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She really tried to integrate into the band and be part of it.
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The big turning point was Monterey Pop.
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A very good friend of mine said,
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"You've got to come to the Monterey Pop Festival.
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"There's never been a pop festival."
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You know you're going to have a great time - it's a weekend,
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it's in Monterey, California.
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Simon and Garfunkel were going to perform there.
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That's all I knew about.
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So I came there with my khaki pants and a tennis sweater.
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And...I was astonished by everything that I saw.
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I got a call from Lou Adler, who was the producer of Monterey Pop.
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He was also the manager of the Mamas & the Papas.
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He told me, "There's a whole new Monterey Pop Festival.
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"Will Big Brother come?"
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I saw the future.
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They offered me a number and I went for it.
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I didn't give a damn about the money.
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I knew that this was going to be a monster.
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So I vividly remember sitting in the grounds there, being
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surrounded by this unusual crowd and then they announced the group.
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Three or four years ago,
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I ran to into a chick in Texas by the name of Janis Joplin...
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APPLAUSE
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..and I heard her sing and Janis and I hitchhiked to the West Coast.
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A lot of things have gone down since that time but it gives me
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a great deal of pride to present, today, the finished product
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of three or four years of work - Big Brother and The Holding Company.
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CHEERING
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# Knock you, rock you
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# We're going to sock it to you now... #
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Cass was sitting there in one of the rows
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and I kind of had an eye on her during Janis
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because they had been
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a little critical because they were Los Angelenos.
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And the Los Angelenos
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were somewhat critical of the San Franciscans,
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in terms of the bands.
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And so I kind of wanted to watch her when Janis sang.
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# Mmmm
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# Sitting down by my window
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# Just looking out at the rain
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# Something came along
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# Honey, grabbed a hold of me
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# And it felt like a ball and chain... #
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SHE SCREAMS # Last time
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# And I say oh-whoa-whoa
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# Honey, this can't be
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# This can't be in vain
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# No, no, no, no, no
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# No, no
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# And I say oh-whoa-whoa
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# Honey, this can't be
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# B-b-b-b-b-be, be, be, be
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# In vain
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# No, no No, no, no, no
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# Oh
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# And I want someone that can tell me
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# Come on
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# Tell me why
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# Oh, tell me why
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# Oh, people tell me why love
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# Honey, why love is like
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# Well, it's like a ball and
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# And a chai-ai-ai-ai-ain. #
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CHEERING
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Once she caught real recognition at the Monterey Pop Festival, I think
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she began to see what the possibilities were
491
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,920
and the possibilities were somewhat over-the-top.
492
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:56,960
"Dear mother, at last a tranquil day and time to write all the good news.
493
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,840
"I'm now safely moved into my new room in our beautiful house
494
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,840
"in the country.
495
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,960
"Gosh, I can't seem to find anything else to talk about.
496
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,080
"This band is my whole life now.
497
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,000
"I really am totally committed and I dig it.
498
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,360
"I wanted to send you these clippings.
499
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,280
"Since Monterey, all this has come about.
500
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,360
"Did Port Arthur News have anything on these? If so, please send.
501
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,040
"I just may be a star some day.
502
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,240
"You know, it's funny, as it gets closer and more probable, being
503
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,560
"a star is really losing its meaning but whatever "it" means, I'm ready.
504
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,920
"Things are going so well for me personally.
505
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,120
"I have a boyfriend, he's head of Country Joe and the Fish,
506
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,400
"a band from Berkeley.
507
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,000
"He's a Capricorn like me and is 25 and, so far,
508
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,680
"we're getting along fine.
509
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,280
"Everyone in the rock scene just thinks it's the cutest thing
510
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,160
"they've ever seen and it is rather cute, actually."
511
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,000
We were never in love with each other. No.
512
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,520
No, there was no sizzle going on.
513
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,840
We were good friends. We were both control freaks, both lead singers.
514
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,480
There was a maternal, feminine side of her that never was allowed
515
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,600
to grow.
516
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,560
She was really trying hard, you know?
517
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,280
And her mother was coming to town.
518
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,440
She wanted to cook chow mein for her mother.
519
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,720
She was so worried that her mother would like her apartment and
520
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,040
Seidman had just made that poster of her naked with the necklaces.
521
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,680
We put them all up on the wall.
522
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,200
We went out to visit her, the summer of love, as a family.
523
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,040
My brother and I were the only teenagers
524
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,160
who probably went out with their parents.
525
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,840
We're going to see Janis,
526
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,560
we're walking down the street, she's showing us around.
527
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,440
I was so excited.
528
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,560
Then we went to The Avalon Ballroom
529
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,680
and Big Brother was not on the bill that night.
530
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,120
But they went on and did three or four songs.
531
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,880
Moby Grape let them have a set because Janis' parents were there.
532
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,080
When we were getting ready to leave,
533
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,480
I remember overhearing one of my parents tell the other one,
534
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,120
"You know, dear, I don't think we're going to have
535
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,120
"much influence any more."
536
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:22,080
I think that her own telling of her story was about the ability
537
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,280
to make your life fit your values.
538
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,040
And she found that opportunity in the music world of the 1960s.
539
00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:39,080
The social acceptance that she'd always wanted was there
540
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,120
and it just propelled her forward.
541
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,040
# Come on, come on come on, come on, come on
542
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,800
# Didn't I make you feel
543
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,920
# Like you were the only one man? #
544
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:01,240
It felt so fresh and so different for someone who'd been an outcast.
545
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,040
# A woman possibly can?
546
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,000
# Honey, you know I did
547
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,080
# And each time I tell myself that I, well
548
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,280
# I think I've had enough
549
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,160
# I'm going to show you, baby that a woman can be tough
550
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:21,600
# I want you to come on, come on come on, come on
551
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,920
# And take it
552
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,240
# Take another little piece of my heart now, baby
553
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,640
# Break it
554
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,320
# Break another little bit of my heart
555
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,080
# Oh, yeah
556
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,800
# Have a
557
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,760
# Have another little piece of my heart now, baby
558
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,480
# You know you got it if it makes you feel good. #
559
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,840
You got another manager, Albert Grossman,
560
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,240
who also manages Bob Dylan.
561
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:52,360
Yeah. He's better.
562
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,560
"Dear mother, as of yesterday afternoon, we are
563
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,440
"officially with Columbia. Wow, I'm so lucky.
564
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,840
"25, 25, 25, it's all too incredible.
565
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,080
"I just fumbled around being a mixed-up kid
566
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,840
"and then fell into this.
567
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,440
"Finally it looks like something is going to work for me. Incredible."
568
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,200
"February 20th, 1968. Dear mother, our record is a success story
569
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,520
"in itself.
570
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,920
"We've got a gold album in three days.
571
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,040
"And the most fantastic thing of all happened at the Rose Bowl.
572
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,640
"The cops wouldn't let the kids off the grass near us and,
573
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,320
"all of a sudden, they broke, just like a wave,
574
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,040
"and swarmed onto the field.
575
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,120
"They were pulling on my clothes, my beads,
576
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,320
"calling, 'Janis, Janis, we love you.' "
577
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,040
# Have another little piece of my heart now, baby
578
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,600
# You know you got it if it makes you feel good. #
579
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,200
She had a sense that, as long as people gave her the stage,
580
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,920
she would be a winner.
581
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,440
CHEERING
582
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,760
Sit down, boys. Come on, boys. Let's sit down.
583
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,360
There we are, sitting down.
584
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,680
Fantastic.
585
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,400
Is there a San Francisco sound? And, if so, what is it
586
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,760
and how did it start?
587
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,240
The thing that makes what they call the San Francisco
588
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,040
music scene, as far as I'm concerned,
589
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,520
is, like, first of all, the freedom to create here.
590
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,560
You know, for some reason, like, a lot of musicians ended up here
591
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,840
and ended up together and were at complete freedom to do whatever
592
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,600
they wanted to until they came up with their own kind of music.
593
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,840
What do you think, Sam?
594
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,840
SHE CACKLES
595
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,240
That's what we call love music, baby.
596
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:05,200
# Had no chance to say I love you and I need you, baby. #
597
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,880
APPLAUSE
598
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120
- Not bad.
- LAUGHTER
599
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,720
Well, here we are, together again at last, by popular demand.
600
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,040
How are you?
601
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,760
'I don't know what it was, we sort of hit it off right away.
602
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,880
'Was she romantically attached to me? I would hope so.'
603
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,800
May I light your fire, my child?
604
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,320
LAUGHTER
605
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,840
- I guess not.
- Apparently not, no.
606
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,520
LAUGHTER
607
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,280
Well, I would have bet against it myself.
608
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,680
'We were good friends and, I will level with you, we may or may not...
609
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,880
'have ended up...
610
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,320
'intimate.'
611
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,920
I just, you know... My memory is so bad.
612
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,280
Or so good.
613
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:58,160
We lived in the Chelsea Hotel while we were making Cheap Thrills
614
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,600
and while we were touring
615
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,400
and we lived in Los Angeles. About half the time we were in
616
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,640
Hollywood and half the time we were at the Chelsea Hotel in Manhattan.
617
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,560
And it was just so much fun. You know, we would get together
618
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,480
and do heroin at these people's rooms.
619
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,520
And just kind of not nod off or go to sleep or something
620
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,360
but just have really nice, mellow conversations.
621
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,840
# If you believe in magic
622
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,280
# Don't be afraid
623
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,920
# Afraid to use it, baby
624
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,600
# No, no, no, no, no, no
625
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,960
# Come on home
626
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,040
# Dressed in mystic silk
627
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,280
# Or wearing rich rags and waste
628
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,200
# Darling, please come on back to me
629
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,240
# I know we can be
630
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:47,040
# Part of a magic race. #
631
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,280
She liked New York and it had that tombstone quality for her
632
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,680
so I was going to do a film with her because I really liked
633
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,280
her a lot and she was recording stuff with the band
634
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,600
and I would go and listen and film them.
635
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,160
SHE SCREAMS
636
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:11,120
I was interested mostly in how she understood to control her
637
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:16,080
singing because her singing had this thing of when she'd lose it,
638
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,760
she would shout and scream.
639
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,360
And sometimes that was very effective but it couldn't be...
640
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,200
the music had to have something more to it than that.
641
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,240
SHE SCREAMS
642
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,320
I think it's a real good...
643
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,240
- Let's do Summertime.
- OK, let's go.
644
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:43,920
Over to you.
645
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,520
THEY PLAY SUMMERTIME
646
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,400
She goes...
647
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,200
# Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na
648
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,760
# Don't you cry... #
649
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,440
# No, no, no, no, no, no No, no, no, no
650
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,000
# Don't you cry. #
651
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,800
- ..at the very end of the song.
- In the song, last chord of the song.
652
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,480
The first G major arpeggio, I think, is wrong. When she says "cry".
653
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,360
- What you want? Six arpeggios of G minor?
- G minor.
654
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,520
Because it changes to G minor for two after that.
655
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,680
It's already in the major, he's trying to get it in the minor.
656
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,600
- Why don't you do four G minors?
- THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER
657
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,400
We can do it either way.
658
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,360
I mean, they're both valid approaches
659
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,800
but I think... It's ten o'clock.
660
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,160
I think by four we could have Summertime.
661
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,640
Let's say we'll be done by 12 o'clock, 1 o'clock,
662
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,000
and we can spend a few hours doing something else.
663
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,200
If you all voted to do a bunch of them tonight, that's OK with me
664
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,720
but I personally don't agree with it.
665
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,320
Playing it and listening to it back
666
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,880
ain't going to teach us a damn thing.
667
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,720
I know exactly what that song sounds like and I've racked my brain
668
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:53,280
to try and get ideas for it, as I'm sure everybody else has.
669
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,640
...G major and G minor when you sing, "Don't you cry."
670
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,960
How do you know what it...? Turn that thing off.
671
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,800
OK, all right.
672
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,560
Don't go away.
673
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,800
MUSIC: Summertime
674
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,600
# Oh, one
675
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,760
# Of these mornings
676
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:50,560
# Child, you'll rise up singing, babe
677
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,920
# I said you're going to go
678
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,280
# Honey, going to sprea-ea-ead your wings
679
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,480
# Honey, take
680
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,200
# Take to the sky-y
681
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:11,840
# Lord, the sky
682
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:18,680
# But till that morning
683
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:25,200
# Honey, n-no nothing's gonna harm you, babe
684
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,120
# I said, honey nothing's ever gonna let you down
685
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,360
# Oh, it just wouldn't do it
686
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,800
# Hush
687
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,960
# Baby, baby, baby, baby
688
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,320
# Baby, baby, baby
689
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,840
# No, no, no, no, no, no don't you cry
690
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,080
# No. #
691
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,040
APPLAUSE
692
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,600
Dear family, lots of trouble in the band.
693
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,880
Most of them revolving around the fact that I think I'm hot shit,
694
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,440
as I'm told by everyone from Albert down, and the band is sloppy.
695
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,840
When she came into the band, Peter was the leader of the band,
696
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,240
the bass player.
697
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:17,960
And James was the mythic, iconic, you know, beautiful figure.
698
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,400
He represented the band.
699
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,320
And then here comes Janis and when she joined the band,
700
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,200
she became both of those things.
701
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,400
They had a very complicated reaction to her fame.
702
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,040
There was a cadre of hangers-on that sort of insulated
703
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,120
her from her band, from what I could see.
704
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,120
And it was just a matter of time
705
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:48,920
until somebody tried to polish her up and make a big star out of her.
706
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,640
It's crazy now to think back that we signed our
707
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,800
management agreement with the guy.
708
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,400
But I think from the very get-go, there was a sense that he was
709
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,240
not a big fan of ours, that he really was into Janis.
710
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:06,360
But we wanted to believe that he would work for the whole band.
711
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,440
And the guys in the band were powerless.
712
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,360
No-one had the ability to stop that from happening.
713
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,200
She was a singularity and she attracted that kind of attention.
714
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,560
She cared about Big Brother's career, she loved those guys,
715
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,960
but there was something that she saw that was beyond that.
716
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,760
And if she didn't do it, she'd never know if she could.
717
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,720
"Dear family, so we're back in California for two more weeks.
718
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:39,400
"After that begins my hardest task.
719
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,080
"I told you, remember, that I was leaving Big Brother
720
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,080
"and going to do a thing on my own.
721
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,760
"There'll be a whole lot of pressure cos of the vibes
722
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,240
"created by my leaving Big Brother, and also, at just how big I am now."
723
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,800
Nobody ever saw her wearing those kind of clothes,
724
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,000
but that's the kind of clothes she had when she came from Texas.
725
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,440
If someone said, you know, "What did you learn from Janis?
726
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,520
"What did she teach you?"
727
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,360
If I had to say it in a sentence, it's emotional honesty,
728
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,880
and the price of not emotional honesty.
729
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,040
She started to lose that.
730
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,560
She started to become something that people expected of her.
731
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,920
She started to become a caricature of what she was,
732
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,880
and play it for people, you know?
733
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,120
And I think that hurt her in some way.
734
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,480
"Take this lonely heart from one lonely girl.
735
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,640
"Reaching too high, babe, can't help from getting burned."
736
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,120
Everything she ever wrote, pretty much, is autobiographical,
737
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,000
and I thought the "Reaching too high, babe", too, was right...
738
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,560
This was done right at the time when she's leaving Big Brother.
739
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,200
She knows she's kind of going to go for some higher level of fame
740
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,360
and stardom and, you know, and she might fall on her face.
741
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,920
She knew that it might not work out, she might get burned.
742
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,120
The fallout for James and Peter and David was significant,
743
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,960
because Janis asked Sam to come with her to her new band.
744
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,640
I loved Jan, I loved her all the way through, you know.
745
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,080
The first time I ever saw her, you know,
746
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,640
she just had this attitude that I like.
747
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,600
It wasn't belligerent but it was non-compromising.
748
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,840
MUSIC: Maybe by Janis Joplin
749
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,640
She's loud, she's... You know, one of these loud Texas women.
750
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,920
She was real smart and...considerate most of the time.
751
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,840
We both had real quick tempers.
752
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,320
# Ma-a-a-a-aybe
753
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,360
# Oh, if I could pray
754
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,560
# And I try, dear
755
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,960
# You might come back home
756
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,800
# Home to me... #
757
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,200
They called me up to play with Janis,
758
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,200
so they sent me a ticket and I went to New York.
759
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,640
I went there, opened the door, and this girl had on a bra
760
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,440
and some panties and said, "Hi, I'm Janis."
761
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,880
I said, "Hi, I'm in the right place."
762
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,720
HE CHUCKLES
763
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:24,240
# Maybe...
764
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,240
# Maybe, maybe, maybe... #
765
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:29,680
When she started singing, I said, "Damn!
766
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,600
"Are you sure she white?!"
767
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,200
Now, you quit Big Brother and The Holding Company.
768
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Why did you do that?
769
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,200
Well, just because, uh...
770
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,800
It was sort of just time for us to, I think,
771
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,400
- to go on and do something else, you know what I mean?
- Mm-hm.
772
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,480
Like, you grow together, you know, a certain way
773
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,000
and you sort of exhaust each other.
774
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,320
You exhaust the good that you can do for each other,
775
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,560
and it was just time for each of us to start growing from...
776
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,440
In other directions, do you know what I mean?
777
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,960
'I think you really grow as a musician,
778
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,840
'and that's what we're, after all, we're supposed to be all about.
779
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,720
'Just trying to get better at what we do, you know?'
780
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,280
San Francisco was the first place, the first community,
781
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,080
where Janis really felt at home.
782
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,680
When she left Big Brother, she lost it.
783
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,280
The pressure to succeed was huge,
784
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,160
and she was carrying around this weight.
785
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,560
You know, she didn't know how to lead a band,
786
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,760
that's one of the reasons it was a mistake, you know.
787
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,760
She didn't know how to lead the band, and she was in charge,
788
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,360
so she had people putting together that and for her, along with a
789
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,480
lot of other strange people who were appointed band directors, you know.
790
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,120
It wasn't working.
791
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:37,800
There were changes in personnel, and none of it solved anything.
792
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,760
We went to Europe only, like, two months into touring.
793
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,280
She's there with a new band which doesn't know what the hell
794
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,640
it's supposed to be.
795
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,720
- JANIS JOPLIN:
- OK, you guys.
796
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,400
COUGHING AND CLAPPING IN AUDIENCE
797
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,800
# Oh... #
798
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,120
You know what?
799
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,000
No. I'm... I'm making a problem.
800
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,240
We played in Frankfurt and Janis was freaking out.
801
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:06,800
We peeped out the curtain and all of these dudes were sitting there with
802
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,240
their little haircuts, like you put a bowl on their head
803
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:11,960
and cut around the bowl.
804
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,600
- JANIS JOPLIN:
- Is everybody ready?!
805
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,960
But we felt like playing.
806
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,120
We said, "Hey, man, we play the show.
807
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,000
"If y'all want to boogie, come on up here with us and boogie."
808
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,920
MUSIC: Raise Your Hand by Janis Joplin
809
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,600
# If there's something you need
810
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,760
# Hon, that you've never ever, ever had
811
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,480
# I know you never had it
812
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,480
# Oh, honey don't you just sit there crying
813
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,560
# Don't just there feeling bad
814
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:42,960
# No, no, no
815
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,240
# You'd better get up
816
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:46,200
# Now, don't you understand?
817
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,120
# And raise your hand
818
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,520
# Hey, hey
819
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,600
# I said r-a-a-a-a-aise your hand
820
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,800
# Right here, right now! Ay!
821
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,400
# WOW-OW-OW-OW!
822
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,240
# Wow-whoa, yeah. #
823
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,160
SONG CONTINUES
824
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,360
I'm nobody, I'm just a fan!
825
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,120
No, I jus... I'm just a fan!
826
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Cos, like, I'm crazy about her!
827
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,160
- GERMAN REPORTER:
- Where from you are, friend?
828
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,520
- I can't talk if you're taking pictures of me!
- Why not?
829
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,280
Because I'm not groovy, she's groovy, look at her!
830
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,400
FEMALE FAN GIGGLES
831
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,520
# Come on... #
832
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,720
I guess, because we're strangers in foreign lands,
833
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:44,840
the Kozmic Blues Band came together.
834
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,480
The Albert Hall in London was the last concert,
835
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,840
and Janis knew that Bob Dylan had sold out, and she was really
836
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,200
excited about playing the Albert Hall, and she did sell out.
837
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,160
She got people dancing in the aisles at the Albert Hall,
838
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,840
and she was just ecstatic after.
839
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,040
- JANIS JOPLIN:
- Oh, excited!
840
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,240
JANIS SQUEALS
841
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:10,120
Nobody ever, nobody, anybody ever thought it would be that good!
842
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,040
Nobody's ever fucking got up yet, no-one's gotten to dance
843
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,840
and dug it, no-one's ever done anything there, and they did it!
844
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,960
Man, they fucking got up and grooved, and then they listened!
845
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,000
God, I'm so happy! Whoo-hoo!
846
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,480
CHEERING
847
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,000
When Janis was onstage and things were going well,
848
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,960
all was right with the world.
849
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,640
But after that hour, you got to come offstage.
850
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,520
FAINT CHEERING
851
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,080
She used to say that it was like making love,
852
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,520
being on the stage, you know. But it's an illusion.
853
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,760
When the show's over,
854
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,120
the audience leaves...and you're left with yourself.
855
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,720
CHEERING INTENSIFIES
856
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,400
CHEERING FADES OUT
857
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:22,440
She rarely was using heroin before a concert, because it wasn't
858
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,360
the right kind of energy for onstage and she cared about that.
859
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,320
But her after-the-concert fix was a real regular thing.
860
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,320
We were devolving into this drug use that was way out of hand.
861
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,280
I have to, you know, digress for a second and say,
862
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,280
when Janis was in Big Brother, Peter didn't do any drugs, you know,
863
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,880
so out of respect to him, we kept it toned down a lot, you know.
864
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,040
So now she's in Kozmic Blues, so we're doing, really,
865
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,360
a lot of drugs, you know, because Peter's not...
866
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,000
Daddy isn't there any more, you know.
867
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,680
We're free and we can do all these drugs now.
868
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,440
So, it really got out of hand, you know,
869
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,920
in Los Angeles, in particular, the Landmark Hotel.
870
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,120
She called me to her room and she said,
871
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,200
"Your services are no longer needed."
872
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,560
And so then we shot up some heroin and she said,
873
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,960
"Well, aren't you going to ask me why?!"
874
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,080
I said, "What difference does it make?"
875
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,680
It was just like a marriage and I'd run out of juice and...
876
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,200
..a lot of our friends were dying that year.
877
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,440
She's lying on a motel bed and she says,
878
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,760
"It's not going to happen to me."
879
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,360
She said, "My people are pioneer stock
880
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,800
"and they came across the country and they came to Texas.
881
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,280
"They're tough.
882
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,040
"I've got those genes and nothing's going to happen to me",
883
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,840
which made me... "Shit, I wish you wouldn't have said that!"
884
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,120
HE CHUCKLES
885
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,400
You know.
886
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,680
# Trust in me, baby
887
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,640
# Give me time, give me time, hm-mm
888
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,920
# Give me time
889
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,240
# Oh, my love is like a seed, baby
890
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,400
# Just needs time to grow
891
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,800
# It's growing stronger day by day, yeah
892
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,920
# Make anybody want to sacrifice
893
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:26,000
# My love is like a seed, baby
894
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,400
# Trust in me, baby
895
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,880
# Trust in me, baby
896
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,160
# Trust in my love
897
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,400
# In my heart
898
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,320
# Keep the faith, baby
899
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,280
# Keep the faith in me, dear. #
900
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,400
We had heard about Woodstock from pretty well in advance,
901
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,360
and we thought, "Oh, great, it's the next Monterey."
902
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,240
It's a very warm summer day...
903
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,760
..and all this variety of choppers are taking off and landing.
904
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:02,000
I do remember that Peggy was on the airlift zone where we took off from.
905
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,320
I was always apprehensive when Peggy was around because I felt
906
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,880
she would be an enabler rather than a helper with the drug problem.
907
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,960
She called and said, "You have to come." I said, "I can't."
908
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,480
Because we were hearing reports that the turnpike was bogged down
909
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,200
and people were out of gas and having babies and, you know,
910
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,920
it was like locusts coming through, you know.
911
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,560
I said the only way I'd come out there was
912
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,360
if I was airlifted in and she said, "OK."
913
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,000
We were both around the same age in the South.
914
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,200
With middle class families.
915
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:09,040
But I think Janis had a harder time of coming through.
916
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,400
But on the other hand, you know, people tend to think,
917
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,840
because of that, that she was depressed. She wasn't.
918
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,000
It was all fun.
919
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,640
We shot heroin for fun. And it took the edge off.
920
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:29,680
We were in the midst of one of the most social phenomenons in history.
921
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,600
What I understand is she got very high shooting up in the Porta-San
922
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,800
and couldn't go on.
923
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,360
Finally, Peggy and John Cooke had to push her on stage.
924
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,280
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
925
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,320
How are y'all? I mean... Erm... How are you out there? Are you OK?
926
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,920
CROWD WHOOPS AND CHEERS
927
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,360
You're not...
928
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,920
You're staying stoned and you've got enough water
929
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,600
and you've got a place to sleep and everything?
930
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,280
CHEERING
931
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:18,080
Because, you know, because we oughta, all of us...
932
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,160
I don't mean to be preachy but we oughta remember,
933
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:25,080
and that means promoters too, that music's for grooving, man.
934
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,760
Music's not for putting yourself through bad changes.
935
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,520
You know, you don't have to go take anybody's shit, man,
936
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,160
just to like music. You know what I mean? You don't.
937
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,600
So if you're getting more shit than you deserve,
938
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,640
you know what to do about it, man.
939
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,200
# Work me, Lord
940
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,520
# Work me, Lord
941
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,600
# Please don't you leave me
942
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,920
# I feel so useless down here
943
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,680
# With no-one to love
944
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,720
# Though I've looked everywhere
945
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,200
# And I can't find me anybody to love
946
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,680
# To feel my care
947
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:23,000
# So-whoa
948
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,000
# Work me, Lord
949
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,160
# Whoa
950
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:33,200
# Oh, use me, Lord... #
951
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,640
Do you ever have a whole night when you just stand up there
952
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,920
and you feel you're not making it?
953
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,760
Well, yeah, but you're kind of trying...
954
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,840
You have little games that you play with yourself to turn yourself on.
955
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,800
- Mm.
- You can usually get yourself going.
956
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,840
You've never had a desire to just leave the stage and say, "I'm sorry.
957
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,160
"It isn't working tonight, folks."
958
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:55,280
It's the best thing that ever happened to me. I wouldn't leave.
959
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:59,320
Yeah. Yeah. If you couldn't do it any more you'd be miserable, huh?
960
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:04,840
Yeah. I hope that by that time I'll have something else that's groovy.
961
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,800
# Whoa
962
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,840
# Whoa-yeah
963
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:15,360
# Who-o-o-oa-ah
964
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,240
# Please
965
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,560
# Oh, daddy no, no, no, no, no... # VOICE BREAKS
966
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,600
# Plea-... Ah
967
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,040
# Ah no, no, no Don't you go and leave me
968
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,480
# Honey, when I reach out I wanna
969
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,280
# I said I wanna hold on to you
970
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,160
# Well you're never there
971
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,520
# It doesn't turn me off again
972
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,440
# I still reach out to hold on to my man
973
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,000
# I said daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy daddy, daddy, daddy
974
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,040
# Don't you go
975
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,080
# No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
976
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:55,080
# Honey, don't you go and le-e-eave me
977
01:01:55,080 --> 01:02:00,480
# Say, my Lord. #
978
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:07,840
CHEERING DISTORTS
979
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,440
This is the dark time in my time with Janis.
980
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,800
Albert and Janis reached a point where they said,
981
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:57,880
"Well, we're going to let the Kozmic Blues Band dissipate."
982
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,000
Janis took that failure on herself.
983
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,720
She felt that she was failing and this was, as a result,
984
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,040
by far their worst abuse of heroin and alcohol.
985
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,400
Well, this whole thing that's happened to me,
986
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,240
you see, this whole success thing... Erm...
987
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,200
It hasn't yet really compromised the position
988
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,720
I took a long time ago in Texas that was to be true to myself,
989
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:37,040
to be the person that was inside of me and not play games.
990
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,480
That's what I'm trying to do mostly in the whole world,
991
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,680
is to not bullshit myself.
992
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,880
What do you think when you're singing?
993
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,200
Do you actually think what's going on in the song
994
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,280
or can your mind be somewhere else?
995
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,520
- I'm not really thinking much. You're just sort of trying to feel.
- Yeah.
996
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,080
The last I heard of you, you were in the jungles of Brazil.
997
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,480
I went to Rio for Carnival
998
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,840
and then I decided to hitchhike around the northern part of Brazil.
999
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,840
- As a kind of vacation?
- Just like a regular old beatnik on the road.
1000
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,880
I knew I was going to try to make it to Rio for Carnival cos
1001
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,920
I was meeting a friend of mine
1002
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,280
so I got to Rio a couple of days early and I thought,
1003
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,600
"God. There's Ipanema beach, you know.
1004
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,000
"God, the girl from Ipanema," you know.
1005
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,280
So I went over to Ipanema beach
1006
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,960
and the very first person I ran into on the beach was Janis.
1007
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,840
I didn't know it was Janis, I just saw this girl with a bikini on.
1008
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,280
# Don't you understand me, baby
1009
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:55,280
# Why I need a man to love... #
1010
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,960
She looked up. I remember lifting her sunglasses up and saying,
1011
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:04,160
"Hiya, cute thing." And I went, "Wow. Hiya, cute thing."
1012
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,400
I'd been in the jungle a long time!
1013
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,440
# This loneliness
1014
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,360
# Baby, surrounding me
1015
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:16,560
- # No, no, no, it just can't be
- # No, it just can't be
1016
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,680
# There's got to be some kind of answer
1017
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,760
# No, it just can't be... #
1018
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,840
When we went back to the hotel the first night
1019
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,280
she wasn't sleeping well, she was rolling around,
1020
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,240
she was unhappy, she was having cold sweats
1021
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,000
and she told me that she was trying to kick the habit
1022
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,160
so I held her for two-and-a-half days while she came down.
1023
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,840
She was really a different person.
1024
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:48,120
She was much more calm, she was much more beautiful, I mean...
1025
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,360
And she wasn't used to being straight
1026
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,800
so she knew she was more beautiful and then after that it was clear -
1027
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:59,320
she couldn't have gotten higher than when we travelled around Brazil.
1028
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,200
She was so free and so different than any other girl I'd ever met.
1029
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,600
I'd never had a woman inspire me before.
1030
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,640
So it stopped me in my tracks, so to speak.
1031
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,440
I was heading for North Africa and when I met her I realised,
1032
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,080
"Shit, I'm not going anywhere."
1033
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,000
When we came back to California we spent time together,
1034
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,240
just the two of us.
1035
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,000
I mean, we did come to the park here and we did go to the Haight
1036
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,360
but basically we just pretty much hung together.
1037
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,120
We were inseparable, really, for those months.
1038
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,880
As my relationship with Janis grew,
1039
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,640
I realised when she sang me these songs they were always the blues
1040
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,480
and that's what she felt, basically, were the blues.
1041
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,680
She could feel everybody's pain.
1042
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,160
That's one of the reasons she did heroin,
1043
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:55,200
was so she didn't have to be involved with everybody else's life.
1044
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,920
Most people can be oblivious to what's going on around them.
1045
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:02,040
Janis couldn't. She couldn't block it out.
1046
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,080
But she was addicted to it, you know.
1047
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,400
And I got her to stop and then when I would go away
1048
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,200
she'd get weak, I guess, is one way to say it, and start it again.
1049
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,960
I told her I can't do that part.
1050
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,000
I can't put up with that cos it's killing you.
1051
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,640
And it broke my heart to see it.
1052
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,800
Really what it is, it broke my heart, more than anything.
1053
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,840
When I said I was leaving she said,
1054
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,480
"Why don't you stay and become my manager?"
1055
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,520
It was a tempting offer
1056
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,800
but the heroin I couldn't even begin to put up with.
1057
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:40,600
# Oh
1058
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,680
# Baby
1059
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,520
# Cry, baby
1060
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,640
# Cry, baby
1061
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:55,120
# Oh, honey, welcome back home
1062
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,160
# I had a man
1063
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:05,080
# He said honey, honey You know that I love you
1064
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,320
# See, baby, you know I gotta go find myself
1065
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,320
# You know I gotta go find my life
1066
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,440
# I gotta go find myself over in Africa
1067
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,640
# Or over in New York City
1068
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,600
# Or over in Olema
1069
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,000
# Some place those cats are always wandering off to
1070
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,680
# I never figured out exactly where it was
1071
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,920
# Always going somewhere, man
1072
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,480
# And I said, baby, don't you realise
1073
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,120
# You lookin' for your life over there, honey
1074
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,120
# You wanna know where your life is?
1075
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,520
# Your life's waiting like a goddamn fool right here
1076
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,840
# For you, man
1077
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,560
# And one mornin' you're going to wake up in Casablanca
1078
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,400
# One of those fancy places
1079
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,840
# Honey, you're gonna be freezing to death, man
1080
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,200
# You're gonna wake up just think Good Lord
1081
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,160
# Good, good, good Lord
1082
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,280
# I just went off and left that woman
1083
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,920
# In that great big huge double bed Great big fur rug on top of it
1084
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,480
# And those satin sheets man What am I doin' in Casablanca, man
1085
01:09:07,480 --> 01:09:09,600
# I mean really, man
1086
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,440
# One of these days that cat's gonna wake up and say it to himself
1087
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:17,560
# And when he comes back home, yeah Just like the Capricorn I am
1088
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,840
# I'll be standin' there waiting man
1089
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,280
# I said, baby, I knew one day
1090
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,800
# Honey, I knew, knew, knew one day
1091
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,760
# Won't you finally come home to me
1092
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,760
# Honey, when you walk through my front door
1093
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,640
# I'll be able to tell by the look in your eyes
1094
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,680
# I said, good God
1095
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,400
# I mean finally Good God, yeah
1096
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:46,320
# Lord, he done finally realised
1097
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,400
# So you can put your head on my shoulder yeah
1098
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:54,440
# Cos I know you've got more tears to shed do you
1099
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:57,600
# So come on, come on, come on
1100
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,200
# Come on, come on, come on
1101
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,920
# And cry, cry, baby
1102
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,960
# Cry, baby
1103
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,480
# Cry
1104
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,800
# Cry
1105
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,680
# Cry, baby
1106
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,600
# Cry, baby
1107
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,880
# Cry, baby. #
1108
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,560
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1109
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,000
I want to ask you about that tune that you just sang.
1110
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:45,040
- It's, erm, about men.
- It's about men.
1111
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,920
- Do you ever see those mule carts?
- Yeah.
1112
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,520
Well, there's a dumb mule up there, right, and they have a long stick
1113
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,280
with a string and a carrot on the end of it.
1114
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,480
And they hang this thing in front of the mule's nose
1115
01:10:57,480 --> 01:11:03,680
- and he runs after it all day long.
- And who's the man in this parable?
1116
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:08,080
- The mule or...
- No.
- Or is he holding the carrot?
- The woman is the mule.
1117
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,920
Chasing something that somebody's always teasing her with.
1118
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,080
- Chasing a man.
- Yeah.
- Who always eludes her.
1119
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,120
Well, they just always hold up something
1120
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,160
more than they're prepared to give.
1121
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,120
We had dinner one night and I remember suddenly saying,
1122
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,160
without having planned to...
1123
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:29,120
"How can you assure me that you're not taking...
1124
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,360
"That you're not doing heroin?
1125
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:36,640
And her answer was interesting. It was, "Who would care?"
1126
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,680
It really stopped me.
1127
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,320
Do you ever get back to Port Arthur, Texas?
1128
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,480
No, but I'm going back next in August, man.
1129
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:50,640
- And guess what I'm doing?
- I don't know.
1130
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,280
I'm going to my tenth annual high school reunion.
1131
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,320
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
1132
01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:00,000
Oh, I want to... Take movies and bring them back to us.
1133
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,040
Hey, would you like to go, man?
1134
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,680
Well, I don't have that many friends in your high school class.
1135
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,600
I don't either. I don't either, believe me.
1136
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,440
- They won't move the reunion now that you're going?
- That's true.
1137
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:12,520
I wasn't going to tell them.
1138
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,720
What do you remember most about Port Arthur?
1139
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,760
SHE LAUGHS
1140
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,640
Erm... I don't really remember... VOICE BREAKS
1141
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,680
Erm, no comment. THEY GIGGLE
1142
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,720
It was really only the acceptance of millions that could make up
1143
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,920
for that way that she's grown up.
1144
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:42,680
If everyone loved her, then it was OK but if anyone didn't,
1145
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,160
they could destroy her in a minute.
1146
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:49,400
How were you different from your schoolmates when you were in TJ?
1147
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,440
I don't know. Why don't you ask them?
1148
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,480
- It was they, it was they who made you different?
- No. I...
1149
01:12:57,480 --> 01:13:00,000
In other words, you were different in comparison with them
1150
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,960
or were you...
1151
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,760
I felt apart from them. Let's put it that way.
1152
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,400
- Did you go to football games?
- I don't remember.
1153
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:12,520
Erm, I don't remember.
1154
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:19,400
I think not. I didn't go to the high school prom. And...
1155
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:25,600
- You were asked, weren't you?
- No. I wasn't. They didn't think...
1156
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,600
I don't think they wanted to take me.
1157
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,200
SHE LAUGHS
1158
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,480
TEARFULLY: And I've been suffering ever since!
1159
01:13:33,480 --> 01:13:36,800
THEY LAUGH I remember, when I was young,
1160
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:42,000
some doctor told my mother that if I didn't, quote, straighten up,
1161
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,000
quote, I was going to end up either in jail or in an insane
1162
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,160
asylum by the time I was 21, right.
1163
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,880
So when I turned 25 and my second record came out, I think
1164
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,520
my mother sent me a congratulatory telegram or something,
1165
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,040
you know, that I had escaped the pen.
1166
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,720
- How do you get along with your parents?
- Pretty good. Pretty...
1167
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,760
- They had somewhere to go?
- Right.
1168
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,520
They went to a wedding at the high school. We get along pretty good.
1169
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,800
- Erm... Yeah.
- Do they ever seem surprised by your success?
1170
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,440
I think yeah, yeah.
1171
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:18,120
Our parents saw it as, you know, challenging to their way of life,
1172
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,160
to their positions in the community
1173
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,840
and it created difficulties between them
1174
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,040
and both of them silently, with each other,
1175
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:32,800
feeling that they had somehow caused a calamity.
1176
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,600
I didn't see her for six months.
1177
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,680
She had promised me that she was going to quit heroin.
1178
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,440
And she did. And it changed her.
1179
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,200
"Dear family. Things are going so well for me.
1180
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,000
"I have a new, smaller band and it's really going fantastic.
1181
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,240
"Met a really fine man in Rio but I had to get back to work
1182
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,320
"so he's off finding the rest of the world.
1183
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,040
"But he really did love me and was so good to me.
1184
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,240
"He wants to come back and marry me.
1185
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,560
"I thought I'd die without someone besides fans asking me.
1186
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,400
"But he meant it and who knows? I may get tired of the music biz.
1187
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,440
"But I'm really getting it on now."
1188
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,200
She called me up and said, "I've got a great new band.
1189
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:46,080
"You want to come back on the road?" With Janis it was magic.
1190
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,640
She had a gift from God when she played.
1191
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:53,120
There was a connection there. I don't know what it was between us.
1192
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,240
Somehow we didn't really do a lot... We never did a lot of talking.
1193
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,400
She was a bubbly person.
1194
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,280
She wanted everything to be so perfect for everyone. Not just her.
1195
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,320
Everyone.
1196
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,480
# You say that it's over, baby
1197
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:11,200
# You say that it's over now
1198
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,200
# But still you hang around... #
1199
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,440
She said, "Man, with Full Tilt I can change something
1200
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:20,040
"in the middle of the song and they're right there."
1201
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,200
She was a fantastic front person.
1202
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,480
She would say, "When I do the windmill, keep her going."
1203
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:29,520
Or we'd be playing a song
1204
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,680
and she'd decide she'd like to talk to the audience.
1205
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:37,200
She would bring the band down and then she would start talking.
1206
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,240
I can't hear you!
1207
01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:47,720
She was working the crowd.
1208
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,800
# You say that it's over, baby... #
1209
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,880
It wasn't just that she was clean.
1210
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,720
She had learned just about every lesson to be learned
1211
01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:00,320
from the really tough times of the year before.
1212
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,200
She was more comfortable about her whole life.
1213
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,000
Having David leave her was actually really good for her.
1214
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,040
She spoke of him afterwards as her lost love.
1215
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,600
She still hoped that he would come back after she got clean.
1216
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,760
# I ain't got no time for walking
1217
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,400
# And what's that gonna do with your love
1218
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,000
# Love all just dangling
1219
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,160
# Hey
1220
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,560
# Make up your mind, honey
1221
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,240
# You're playing with me... #
1222
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:35,760
"David, honey. Daddy, listen. I kicked, man, four months ago.
1223
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,440
"I'm on the road rockin' with a new group so I got Janis back.
1224
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:42,280
"She's delightfully crazy but I love her, man.
1225
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,280
"I've got that picture of us in Salvador
1226
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,080
"and every time I look at it, I look like a woman.
1227
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,680
"Not a pop star. But I'm afraid it's too late.
1228
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,080
"I know how to be a pop star but I don't know how to bake bread.
1229
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,160
"But honey, when I look at you this whole flood comes over me.
1230
01:17:56,160 --> 01:18:00,120
"I love ya and I did write, motherfucker. Don't you yell at me."
1231
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,080
- PHONE INTERVIEWER:
- It seems to bother a lot of women's lib people
1232
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,440
that you're kind of so upfront sexually.
1233
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:32,880
I haven't been attacked by anyone yet.
1234
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,920
You know, how can they attack me?
1235
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,040
I'm representing everything they said they want, you know.
1236
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,800
It's sort of like you are what you settle for, do you know what I mean?
1237
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,240
And if, you know, if they settle for being somebody's dishwasher
1238
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,280
that's their own fucking problem.
1239
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,760
If you don't settle for that and you keep fighting, you know,
1240
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,960
you'll end up anything you'll want to be.
1241
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,520
I'm just doing what I want to and what feels right
1242
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:01,200
and not settling for bullshit and it works. How can they be mad at that?
1243
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,240
One girl I know said,
1244
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,160
"How come she doesn't have any women in any of her groups?"
1245
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,320
You show me a good drummer and I'll hire one. You know.
1246
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,280
Show me a good chick.
1247
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,160
- Besides, I don't want a chick on the road with me.
- You don't?
1248
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,680
I've got enough competition, man. THEY LAUGH
1249
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,560
No, I like to be around men!
1250
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,480
- Fuck it!
- God bless ya, folks!
1251
01:19:25,480 --> 01:19:28,640
- God bless ya!
- Peace, love, truth, beauty!
1252
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:33,200
It was fun getting back with her on the Festival Express.
1253
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,040
Because we were all stuck in a little area.
1254
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,240
Her yes men couldn't contain her there.
1255
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,960
They couldn't control her there because she wanted to get out
1256
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,200
and be with her kindred spirits, the musicians.
1257
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,880
- Are we in Calgary yet?
- We're stopped.
1258
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,880
- And we're going to run out...
- We're in Alberta.
- Alberta?
- Alberta.
1259
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,480
Alberta, let yo' hair hang do-...
1260
01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:56,760
No! LAUGHTER DROWNS SPEECH
1261
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,600
I've loved you ever since the day I saw you.
1262
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,680
Drew didn't love Janis
1263
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,840
because she was a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model.
1264
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:17,280
He loved her for what she did. And the sparks that she threw off.
1265
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,920
He had a right proper appreciation for what Janis was
1266
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,040
and what she had to offer.
1267
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,720
# From the Kentucky coalmines to the California sun
1268
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:38,200
# Bobby shared the secrets of my soul...
1269
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:44,720
Her producer gave me a demo of her singing Bobby McGee.
1270
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:52,080
# Bobby, baby, kept me from the cold... #
1271
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:56,720
It was so exhilarating for me to hear her make that her song.
1272
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:01,000
If you're a songwriter and somebody does that with what you've got,
1273
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,640
it's the greatest feeling in the world.
1274
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,680
# Well, I'd trade all of my tomorrows
1275
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,240
# For one single yesterday
1276
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,640
# To be holding Bobby's body next to mine... #
1277
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,960
TRACK FADES INTO STUDIO VERSION
1278
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,760
# Freedom's just another word For nothing left to lose
1279
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,560
# Nothin', that's all that Bobby left me... #
1280
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,280
- I hear you're making a new record.
- Yeah. It's really going good.
1281
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,200
I like my producer. He's really worked out really well with me.
1282
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,880
- Who's producing it?
- Paul Rothchild.
1283
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,000
- You haven't worked with him before, huh?
- No. No, I haven't.
1284
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,920
The first time I spoke to Janis about Paul, she said,
1285
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,520
"Boy, that guy!" And I said, "What?"
1286
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,800
And she started talking about him and this is serious Janis
1287
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:48,800
and I had never heard her say this kind of stuff about anybody.
1288
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:53,000
She was talking about how much she was learning from him.
1289
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:59,000
The mood was very up. I mean, as good as sessions get.
1290
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:03,720
Everybody in love with everybody else and working very hard.
1291
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,720
And Janis, she was always ready to do the most.
1292
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:12,200
She was a much better singer than the world or even she knew.
1293
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,000
# La-la-la-la-la-la-la La-la-la-la-la
1294
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,560
# Hey now, Bobby Bobby McGee... #
1295
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:22,800
What he was asking her to do was to understand the different voices
1296
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,840
she had at her command
1297
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:29,400
and the ramifications of this for Janis were really profound.
1298
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,960
Because she had always said, and she absolutely meant it, "Oh, man.
1299
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:37,560
"When I blow out my voice I'm gonna buy a bar, retire in Rains County."
1300
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,800
What she was learning from Paul was enabling her to see
1301
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,080
farther into the future.
1302
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,560
And that's where Paul was looking all along.
1303
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:49,000
He said, 30 years from now I want you to be making your best
1304
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,040
album and I want you to be making it with me.
1305
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,240
She called me on the phone and she said,
1306
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,840
"I've got to play on the phone for you...
1307
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:05,520
..a song of Kris Kristofferson's that I've just recorded."
1308
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:11,960
To hear that voice, to hear her pride, to hear her excitement...
1309
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:20,920
I didn't hear it till she was gone and it was very emotional for me.
1310
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,800
I can see her saying, "Wait till that son-of-a-bitch hears this!"
1311
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,840
You know?
1312
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,640
# Hey, hey, hey, Bobby McGee. #
1313
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,000
You know, everything about it was positive for Janis.
1314
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,760
Except that she always hated the down hours.
1315
01:23:43,480 --> 01:23:46,600
The Janis who says, "How come the guys in the band go home,
1316
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,720
"you know, with these girls and I go home alone?"
1317
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,400
She was saying, "You can't imagine how hard it is to be me."
1318
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:04,760
She just didn't know who to relax with. She just didn't know any more.
1319
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:10,680
A lot of pressure. "You've got to do this, Janis. You've got to do that."
1320
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:14,880
That's what made it hard for her, I think. She loved everybody.
1321
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,920
That was the problem.
1322
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,400
She was like a little girl lost
1323
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:26,360
and then she would be as strong as a mountain lion.
1324
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,400
Erm...
1325
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,360
As far as anyone could see, she had kicked heroin.
1326
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,400
She had replaced it with alcohol
1327
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,400
but it didn't look like that was going to kill her.
1328
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:45,040
I think she thought, one last little hurrah.
1329
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,240
I can understand her wanting to, you know, no-one's ever going to know.
1330
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,560
I'll hang in my room, do a hit and then go to bed.
1331
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,840
Paul Rothchild called me and he said, "Janis isn't here.
1332
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,360
"Can you see if you can find her?"
1333
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,800
And I pulled out of the driveway and I look up there
1334
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,440
and I know which room is hers and there's a light on in the window.
1335
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,480
And when I opened the door I had this really simple
1336
01:25:17,480 --> 01:25:19,560
and direct feeling - nobody's here.
1337
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,920
I came round the corner and saw Janis lying by the bed.
1338
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,840
But that feeling of nobody is here, it was right.
1339
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:46,960
# Sit there
1340
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,840
# Mm, count your fingers
1341
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,200
# What else
1342
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:01,800
# What else is there to do... #
1343
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:09,480
I was standing at a stove, boiling an egg or something.
1344
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:11,520
The radio said, "Janis Joplin..."
1345
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,040
And I knew before they got to the last consonant in her name
1346
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,080
out that she was dead.
1347
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:23,080
# Count, oh, count your little fingers
1348
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,520
# My unhappy... #
1349
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,120
I wrote a telegram to Janis that says...
1350
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,000
"Really miss you. Things aren't the same alone.
1351
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,760
"Could meet you in Kathmandu any time
1352
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,080
"but late October is the best season.
1353
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,880
"Love you, Momma. More than you know."
1354
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:53,600
# Oh, sit there... #
1355
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,840
I just fell apart. I just completely fell apart.
1356
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:04,280
She was in touch with her emotions and who she was in such a way
1357
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,760
that nobody else that I knew was that in touch with.
1358
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,440
And to be that way, to try to get that, that's...
1359
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,880
That's the price you pay for doing that kind of art on that level,
1360
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,920
you know.
1361
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:31,720
"Dear family. I'm awfully sorry to be such a disappointment to you
1362
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,760
"but I really do think there's an awfully good chance
1363
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,680
"I won't blow it this time.
1364
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,480
"There's really nothing more I can say right now.
1365
01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:42,520
"Guess I'll write more when I have more news.
1366
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:47,040
"Until then, address all criticism to the above address
1367
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:52,000
"and believe that you can't possibly want for me to be a winner
1368
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,360
"more than I do. Love, Janis."
1369
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:01,840
# Sit there
1370
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:07,480
# Go on, go on and count your fingers
1371
01:28:07,480 --> 01:28:15,040
# Oh, no, what else, what else What else have you got to do
1372
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,040
# I know how you feel
1373
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,080
# And I know you ain't got no reason to go on
1374
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,840
# I know you feel that you must be through
1375
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,240
# Go on and sit right back down
1376
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:31,760
# Oh, won't you count Count your fingers
1377
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,560
# My unhappy
1378
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,040
# My unlucky
1379
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:41,560
# But my little Little girl blue
1380
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,400
# I know you're unhappy
1381
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,920
# Oh
1382
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,200
# Honey I know
1383
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:56,680
# Babe, I know just how you feel. #
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