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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,599 --> 00:00:12,919 tell me about uh how did the movie come 2 00:00:11,519 --> 00:00:15,919 to 3 00:00:12,919 --> 00:00:15,919 be 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:24,199 my agent at the 5 00:00:20,039 --> 00:00:27,240 time was just very persistent about me 6 00:00:24,199 --> 00:00:30,240 doing a documentary because you 7 00:00:27,239 --> 00:00:33,519 know somewhere between like six and 7 8 00:00:30,239 --> 00:00:36,119 years ago there was like this whole Rage 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,770 of like 10 00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:39,159 a-listers 11 00:00:37,770 --> 00:00:41,840 [Music] 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:44,679 musicians specifically they were just 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:48,039 doing these documentaries all over the 14 00:00:44,679 --> 00:00:51,079 place and the do space just got like up 15 00:00:48,039 --> 00:00:52,679 like it just turned hot he like oh man 16 00:00:51,079 --> 00:00:56,000 you got to do one on your life and I was 17 00:00:52,679 --> 00:00:59,558 like my life no 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,960 way one why would I want to listen to 19 00:00:59,558 --> 00:01:05,679 myself 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:07,478 speak for an hour and feel that feeling 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,920 of listening to the voicemail for an 22 00:01:07,478 --> 00:01:13,118 hour why would I do that like also like 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:17,159 I see myself in the mirror every day and 24 00:01:13,118 --> 00:01:19,920 I am not curious or enthusiastic about 25 00:01:17,159 --> 00:01:22,439 any of my story cuz I know it yeah I 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:25,759 know what I did two minutes ago two 27 00:01:22,438 --> 00:01:28,319 hours ago not good two days ago two 28 00:01:25,759 --> 00:01:30,879 weeks ago two months ago two years ago 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,839 two decades ago 30 00:01:30,879 --> 00:01:37,118 what am I curious about yeah I wasn't 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:40,600 and that's a huge issue for me because 32 00:01:37,118 --> 00:01:43,399 anything that I do artistically I need 33 00:01:40,599 --> 00:01:46,359 to be curious and I need to feel 34 00:01:43,399 --> 00:01:49,000 enthusiastic about what the the the 35 00:01:46,359 --> 00:01:50,200 Journey of exploration and ex excavation 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,239 is going to 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:55,640 be and I just did see that I didn't 38 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:57,920 think it would be 39 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,399 interesting but he kept pushing and he 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,478 kept persisting and kept in assisting 41 00:02:00,399 --> 00:02:04,920 and then finally I was 42 00:02:02,478 --> 00:02:07,039 like man you really got to stop asking 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,759 me about this and he was like look you 44 00:02:07,039 --> 00:02:12,318 can do it any way you want and at that 45 00:02:09,758 --> 00:02:15,159 point it kind of like unlocked something 46 00:02:12,318 --> 00:02:17,878 it unlocked a a different way or vantage 47 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:21,400 point of looking at the opportunity so 48 00:02:17,878 --> 00:02:24,079 my brother Zay low was like actually you 49 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,680 know that's when you realize he just 50 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,000 summed it up so well and I was like man 51 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,319 what do you mean but he was like you 52 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,120 know that's when you realize that it was 53 00:02:30,318 --> 00:02:34,679 an opportunity that was less about like 54 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,519 the reflection of the past but an 55 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:41,439 opportunity to be creative yeah and 56 00:02:37,519 --> 00:02:44,599 that's literally what I felt and I just 57 00:02:41,439 --> 00:02:46,800 thought okay well if I can do it any way 58 00:02:44,598 --> 00:02:49,280 I want I want to work with Morgan 59 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,560 Neville which we had discussed you know 60 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,680 he's a really brilliant 61 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:58,080 documentarian you look at 20 ft from 62 00:02:54,680 --> 00:03:01,439 Stardom you know a guy that like 63 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:05,879 realizes that like one of the most most 64 00:03:01,439 --> 00:03:07,519 powerful entities in a performer's life 65 00:03:05,878 --> 00:03:08,959 you know especially Superstars or the 66 00:03:07,519 --> 00:03:11,879 background 67 00:03:08,959 --> 00:03:13,719 singers uh and recognize that so well 68 00:03:11,878 --> 00:03:15,840 that really interesting Vantage Point 69 00:03:13,719 --> 00:03:17,959 enough to even name the film 20 Feet 70 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:21,400 from Stardom I was like that guy is 71 00:03:17,959 --> 00:03:24,120 genius yeah and he does it again with um 72 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,400 Mr Rogers Mr Rogers the Fred Rogers dog 73 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,799 yeah so I'm like oh I'd give that guy 74 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,560 complete autonomy to my story and 75 00:03:28,799 --> 00:03:35,640 autonomy to my catalog to use as he sees 76 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:38,680 fit but I want to do it in Lego how did 77 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:41,279 the Lego idea come I knew that it 78 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:44,680 was it never been done 79 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,959 before and if Lego said yes it was going 80 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:50,040 to be crazy all the stuff that we get to 81 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:53,519 put in Lego what was your connection to 82 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:55,639 Lego as a child my earliest Fondest 83 00:03:53,519 --> 00:03:58,840 Memories of like 84 00:03:55,639 --> 00:04:01,318 um toys were Lego sets it's what my 85 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:05,799 parents used to get us when we lived on 86 00:04:01,318 --> 00:04:08,598 a federal subsidy you know in public 87 00:04:05,799 --> 00:04:11,519 housing Got Us Lego 88 00:04:08,598 --> 00:04:14,560 sets and I never 89 00:04:11,519 --> 00:04:16,680 dreamt that it would turn into this yeah 90 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,160 but at the time it was like I was 91 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,680 grateful for that and this is way before 92 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,840 there were any mini figs or anything 93 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:25,720 they were just bricks and 94 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:28,319 pieces and um and then also like right 95 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,240 when we decided we were going to do it 96 00:04:28,319 --> 00:04:32,079 the other thing that made it made 97 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:36,000 it it you know that really made it click 98 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:37,918 for me is that like we had just had you 99 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,160 know we have four children we have our 100 00:04:37,918 --> 00:04:43,159 16-year-old rocket who he was here the 101 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:46,520 last time U he's 16 now and then we have 102 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:49,000 three seveny olds who we had just had so 103 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:51,719 three yeah at once yeah three at once 104 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:56,560 wow and uh and 105 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:58,560 they have had Lego sets you know at 106 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,360 different points in their lives so we 107 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,399 always get them it's very 108 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,680 generational and I hadn't thought about 109 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:10,120 all the implications but I just know 110 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,319 that I just knew that my my story if it 111 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,478 got 112 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:18,800 objectified that I might like it yeah 113 00:05:15,478 --> 00:05:22,199 enough to to do it what I didn't realize 114 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,639 is that it objectified it so much that I 115 00:05:22,199 --> 00:05:26,639 was able 116 00:05:23,639 --> 00:05:27,840 to look at it and appreciate it beyond 117 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:30,879 what I would see in the mirror when you 118 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,239 look in the mirror most of the time even 119 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:34,759 when you're very grateful for your life 120 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:37,240 and your existence and even in in your 121 00:05:34,759 --> 00:05:40,120 physical form right CU not everybody has 122 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,319 that not everybody is happy with what 123 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,160 they were born with and we have to 124 00:05:42,319 --> 00:05:47,560 respect that too but when you 125 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:50,720 are it's 126 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:53,399 a it's a thing I don't take for granted 127 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:56,319 but even when you're grateful for it you 128 00:05:53,399 --> 00:05:59,239 know you still see your your fears you 129 00:05:56,319 --> 00:06:01,840 see your flaws you see your insecurities 130 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:05,639 you see see 131 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:08,598 the the guilt and pressure that you feel 132 00:06:05,639 --> 00:06:10,800 from people guilt bullying you into 133 00:06:08,598 --> 00:06:15,159 doing things you don't really want to do 134 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:17,160 you know like something your boss may 135 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,919 suggest you really don't want to do but 136 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:22,400 you say yes to anyway you give into that 137 00:06:18,918 --> 00:06:26,159 guilt bullying or family 138 00:06:22,399 --> 00:06:29,758 or uh significant other or 139 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:31,439 Community or even voting party 140 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:33,520 like there's always these pressures or 141 00:06:31,439 --> 00:06:35,079 things that sense of obligation you know 142 00:06:33,519 --> 00:06:37,478 yeah obligation that you really don't 143 00:06:35,079 --> 00:06:41,198 want to deal with but it's on you yeah 144 00:06:37,478 --> 00:06:42,000 yeah and uh and the pressures that come 145 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:44,639 from 146 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:48,120 that but this allowed me to 147 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:49,759 see beyond all those layers of 148 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:55,079 distraction 149 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:56,479 yeah and insignificance yeah to see my 150 00:06:55,079 --> 00:07:00,800 true Soul's 151 00:06:56,478 --> 00:07:02,478 purpose and that is to be liberated 152 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:07,280 discover the tools of Liberation and 153 00:07:02,478 --> 00:07:09,240 share them with as many spirits as I can 154 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,559 yeah I mean when you I love that you use 155 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,280 the word objectification because 156 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,720 typically we think of objectification as 157 00:07:14,279 --> 00:07:19,839 a negative in our society but you're 158 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:23,360 describing it as a way to distance 159 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:26,878 yourself and actually see what it is 160 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:28,919 yeah beautiful thank you thank you I 161 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:30,360 mean that's what happens when you get 162 00:07:28,918 --> 00:07:32,639 legoed 163 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,598 you know there's an objectification to 164 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:37,038 to you and also to your story and it 165 00:07:35,598 --> 00:07:39,279 makes it very relatable because when you 166 00:07:37,038 --> 00:07:42,519 see when you see Atlanta's apartments in 167 00:07:39,279 --> 00:07:45,878 there like it doesn't look as heavy as 168 00:07:42,519 --> 00:07:49,079 it would have if it was a real uh 169 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:51,400 liveaction documentary yeah that's the 170 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:53,719 power of Lego yeah it allows other 171 00:07:51,399 --> 00:07:57,560 people to see things 172 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,720 that their prejudices would not allow 173 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,240 them to really take in just because oh 174 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:05,919 that's the projects it's a more poetic 175 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,720 interpretation 100% yeah yeah and open 176 00:08:05,918 --> 00:08:12,758 to you can see what you want to see in 177 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Lego yeah so did you film the scenes 178 00:08:12,759 --> 00:08:18,479 liveaction and then TR then make them in 179 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:20,318 Lego how did it technically how was it 180 00:08:18,478 --> 00:08:21,719 made well what I had said to Morgan when 181 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:23,520 we first worked together when I first 182 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,360 when I first pitched it to him to see if 183 00:08:23,519 --> 00:08:26,519 he would do it I was like yo I want I 184 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,840 want you to shoot this documentary 185 00:08:26,519 --> 00:08:29,158 whatever way you want cuz I love and 186 00:08:27,839 --> 00:08:31,359 respect what it is that you've done thus 187 00:08:29,158 --> 00:08:33,519 far think you're the best at this and 188 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:36,000 you're the per perfect person for this 189 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:37,479 but I I want you to shoot it and then I 190 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,719 want you to throw all the footage away 191 00:08:37,479 --> 00:08:41,719 but keep the a oh and then I want you to 192 00:08:39,719 --> 00:08:44,600 do it in I want us to do it in 193 00:08:41,719 --> 00:08:46,160 Lego and he 194 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,800 goes 195 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:50,719 yeah 196 00:08:47,799 --> 00:08:54,639 sure and it was just that fast and then 197 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:57,440 he said yes yeah then we went to Lego 198 00:08:54,639 --> 00:09:00,278 yeah and they said yes great and then we 199 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,839 went to focus 200 00:09:00,278 --> 00:09:04,278 and they said 201 00:09:01,839 --> 00:09:06,839 yes and then they went to like Donna 202 00:09:04,278 --> 00:09:09,159 Langley over at Universal and she said 203 00:09:06,839 --> 00:09:12,480 yes and so when you think about it like 204 00:09:09,159 --> 00:09:16,000 this this film is like the sum of a lot 205 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:18,560 of yeses yeah and when you add them up 206 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,200 you get what impossible looks like yeah 207 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,359 it's something no one has ever seen 208 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,640 before yeah especially because I'm black 209 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,639 I come from a marginalized Community you 210 00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:29,439 walking in there saying you know hey 211 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:31,000 we're going to show the projects and 212 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,839 going to make it so that everyone around 213 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,078 the world will be able to understand it 214 00:09:32,839 --> 00:09:37,480 they wouldn't get it yeah but when you 215 00:09:35,078 --> 00:09:40,000 just say hey I just want to tell my life 216 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,320 story through the guys of Lego because I 217 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,120 want it to be 218 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:46,480 relatable to 219 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:48,000 people then all the other details get 220 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,159 filled in and then as you're working on 221 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,440 it you 222 00:09:49,159 --> 00:09:54,000 realize all these other things that you 223 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:57,240 can like put in there later if you need 224 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,000 to to make it even more Rich even more 225 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:02,200 details about the life and even more 226 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:06,200 detail about like these environments and 227 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:08,320 you know it just turned out Morgan 228 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,399 really crushed it you know how did you 229 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,480 guys get Carl Sean to be in 230 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:15,839 it you know I don't know I mean we got 231 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,600 permission from the family but I I I was 232 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:19,920 surprised when he ended up in it because 233 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,079 I'm such a Carl Sean fan you know that's 234 00:10:19,919 --> 00:10:25,439 why he's there makes sense yeah he's 235 00:10:22,078 --> 00:10:28,639 everything is there really a statue of 236 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:32,000 Neptune in Virginia Beach yeah really 237 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:35,439 100% beautiful yeah and how important 238 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:38,440 was the beach growing up for you the 239 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:43,880 beach for me you know even though we 240 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:46,680 live like a maybe 10minute walk from the 241 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:50,000 beach black folks didn't really go to 242 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:52,000 the beach and swim like that that wasn't 243 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,759 like the thing to do it wasn't that it 244 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:59,679 was illegal allthough Virginia Beach 10 245 00:10:55,759 --> 00:11:01,919 years before I was born it's not blacks 246 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,319 were not necessarily welcomed blacks 247 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:07,719 would swim in another city in in norfol 248 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,399 in an area called Ocean View but 249 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,639 Virginia Beach was pretty much like 250 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:14,759 whites only but when you were growing up 251 00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:17,159 what was the vibe I think there was 252 00:11:14,759 --> 00:11:21,319 residue of that energy I 253 00:11:17,159 --> 00:11:22,719 see we were welcom to do it it was open 254 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,000 for us to do it but I don't know if we 255 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,680 were necessarily welcomed you know even 256 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,200 when I did my Festival down there they 257 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:33,399 were like signs 258 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,560 that said that if you cursed you could 259 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:36,759 get locked up but then we know who was 260 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,359 getting locked up when they they were 261 00:11:36,759 --> 00:11:42,679 like cursing out loud down there in the 262 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:45,360 ocean front you know or like you could 263 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:47,239 get a a ticket or citation if the top of 264 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:50,399 your underwear or boxers were showing 265 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:54,159 above your shorts or pants really yeah 266 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:55,600 yeah was had a lot of that but the city 267 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:56,919 wanted to do something different and so 268 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,879 when we did our Festival I think it 269 00:11:56,919 --> 00:12:01,078 changed a lot of energy down there 270 00:11:58,879 --> 00:12:03,399 because we couldn't do it alone and the 271 00:12:01,078 --> 00:12:05,919 30,000 students that weren't necessarily 272 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:09,159 as welcome before they couldn't do it 273 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:12,039 alone either it took everybody coming 274 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:13,639 together and seeing the bigger picture 275 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:17,078 and I think Virginia Beach has gotten a 276 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:17,079 lot better still got a lot of work to 277 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:25,480 do it's the Unspeakable mystery the 278 00:12:22,278 --> 00:12:26,639 representation of a Soundwave from which 279 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,920 everything 280 00:12:26,639 --> 00:12:33,120 Springs tetr griton is an online 281 00:12:29,919 --> 00:12:38,319 collection of curated material is it a 282 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:41,198 library or a gallery a museum an oracle 283 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,199 we hope to find 284 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:51,199 out tell me about the festival well that 285 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,680 was just it it was uh you know 30,000 286 00:12:51,198 --> 00:12:55,799 students that would come there every 287 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:58,479 year on week 17 288 00:12:55,799 --> 00:13:00,599 to uh blow off some steam right before 289 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,600 exams 290 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,000 and they weren't particularly welcomed 291 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,800 and that's when like the whole Greek 292 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,720 Fest thing happened and the riots and 293 00:13:07,799 --> 00:13:13,519 you know National Guard 294 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:15,720 and it was it was a very tough time and 295 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:19,519 a lot of that residual energy was still 296 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:21,600 laying around and so uh they weren't 297 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:23,639 necessarily being as supportive and as 298 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,480 welcoming as they should have been to 299 00:13:23,639 --> 00:13:28,240 those students so the chief of police 300 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,120 chief chief sea at the time he asked me 301 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,480 if I had any ideas is and we came up 302 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,159 with something in the water and that's 303 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,199 that's where the festival came from and 304 00:13:33,159 --> 00:13:36,240 I know we digressed a little bit but 305 00:13:35,198 --> 00:13:39,479 that was 306 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:41,079 like it's I've always just given back to 307 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,560 Virginia Beach and given back to the 308 00:13:41,078 --> 00:13:45,278 state of Virginia because that's what 309 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,679 made me good B and different and what 310 00:13:45,278 --> 00:13:49,720 ways do you feel like Virginia Beach 311 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,359 made you I believe it did yeah but 312 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,600 describe more 313 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:57,159 like what and why there wasn't a 314 00:13:54,600 --> 00:14:00,720 blossoming music industry there MH you 315 00:13:57,159 --> 00:14:04,399 were outside of it yeah we all were 316 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:07,079 myself Chad Timberland Missy 317 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:10,000 Shay it was it wasn't really anything 318 00:14:07,078 --> 00:14:11,519 there but when Teddy moved in town Teddy 319 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,360 Riley moved in town a lot of that 320 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:16,000 changed and that gave us opportunities 321 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,879 and Tim and Missy went Jersey and they 322 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,360 were working a lot with Devonte swing 323 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:23,519 like things happened then but even still 324 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,159 it wasn't that but Virginia happened to 325 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:27,078 be this 326 00:14:25,159 --> 00:14:30,278 really 327 00:14:27,078 --> 00:14:33,159 peculiar state that was in 328 00:14:30,278 --> 00:14:35,320 between New York DC 329 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:37,159 and Atlanta and 330 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:41,680 Miami 331 00:14:37,159 --> 00:14:44,958 and it was like people would just go 332 00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:48,000 there all the hustlers would come 333 00:14:44,958 --> 00:14:49,599 down they you know and if they weren't 334 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,799 necessarily hustling in the city they 335 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,278 were partying in the 336 00:14:51,799 --> 00:14:56,958 city and North folan Virginia Beach and 337 00:14:54,278 --> 00:14:59,039 it was just like this different time you 338 00:14:56,958 --> 00:15:02,559 think the beach played a role in that it 339 00:14:59,039 --> 00:15:05,039 it was just like a thing but musically 340 00:15:02,559 --> 00:15:08,078 because we weren't as Northern and then 341 00:15:05,039 --> 00:15:10,480 we weren't the most southern and we 342 00:15:08,078 --> 00:15:13,120 definitely weren't the Midwest or the 343 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:16,480 West Coast we listened to everything 344 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:18,679 yeah and I think that shaped us 345 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:22,600 as at least the group that I'm referring 346 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:24,078 to now like it shaped us as musicians 347 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,199 and I think it really shaped the area 348 00:15:24,078 --> 00:15:28,318 because we loved anything that just was 349 00:15:26,198 --> 00:15:29,639 coming from any different area but like 350 00:15:28,318 --> 00:15:31,519 amazing 351 00:15:29,639 --> 00:15:34,000 then it got play and it got Spin and I 352 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:37,759 think that developed our like taste buds 353 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:40,318 to be eclectic to like all kinds of 354 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:44,199 music Virginia is a very 355 00:15:40,318 --> 00:15:46,360 like it's a very it's a very interesting 356 00:15:44,198 --> 00:15:48,559 place that seems like it's just 357 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:52,600 normalville but there's so many other 358 00:15:48,559 --> 00:15:55,078 like hidden talents people with great 359 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,399 taste it wasn't reflective in what you 360 00:15:55,078 --> 00:15:59,958 seen But like like for example like one 361 00:15:57,399 --> 00:16:02,440 of the biggest Warhol collectors ever 362 00:15:59,958 --> 00:16:06,078 lived in Virginia Beach people wouldn't 363 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:09,880 know we used to have this um Buckminster 364 00:16:06,078 --> 00:16:11,879 Fuller geodisc Dome down there that 365 00:16:09,879 --> 00:16:14,838 everybody performed that I didn't even 366 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:18,480 know but like some of everybody 367 00:16:14,839 --> 00:16:21,560 performed there and it it sadly got torn 368 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:27,399 down but then we ended up acquiring that 369 00:16:21,559 --> 00:16:29,799 property to build like this whole big 370 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:33,399 multi-use uh 371 00:16:29,799 --> 00:16:37,198 venue and hotel wave Park like all this 372 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:40,399 other stuff but it's like it's always 373 00:16:37,198 --> 00:16:42,479 had it's always been a magnet for very 374 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:44,600 interesting people the Edgar Casey and 375 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,199 the AR Foundation is down there wow I 376 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,759 didn't know that oh yeah that's where he 377 00:16:46,198 --> 00:16:52,159 moved from Kentucky he moved 378 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:54,959 there uh he moved to Virginia Beach so 379 00:16:52,159 --> 00:16:57,318 cool yeah no it's a lot there it's 380 00:16:54,958 --> 00:16:58,879 just I don't think that we've been very 381 00:16:57,318 --> 00:17:01,559 good at marketing it and sell 382 00:16:58,879 --> 00:17:03,679 celebrating it but maybe that keeps it 383 00:17:01,559 --> 00:17:06,318 what it is do you know what I mean like 384 00:17:03,679 --> 00:17:09,198 maybe sometimes the harder it is to get 385 00:17:06,318 --> 00:17:12,558 to where the the fact that it's a 386 00:17:09,199 --> 00:17:16,318 secret preserves it some things get 387 00:17:12,558 --> 00:17:20,038 watered down you're right and I I agree 388 00:17:16,318 --> 00:17:23,838 with that philosophy like cap Farah cap 389 00:17:20,038 --> 00:17:26,838 faray or you know like a Hampton type of 390 00:17:23,838 --> 00:17:27,639 vibe or like you know a lot of states 391 00:17:26,838 --> 00:17:30,759 and 392 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,360 countries have like those kind of like 393 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:34,960 if you know you know 394 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:38,000 places but then you would need the 395 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:41,120 powers that be there yeah the powers 396 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,960 that be who are who are there yes to 397 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,119 know that yes to know what they're 398 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:48,400 protecting yeah and a lot of times they 399 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:51,959 don't understood understood I love them 400 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:54,720 yeah yeah but like but I don't I don't I 401 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,400 don't love when they don't have the 402 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,279 self-awareness or the wherewithal and I 403 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:01,320 mean the powers that be to know how 404 00:17:58,279 --> 00:18:03,558 special the place is and how we could 405 00:18:01,319 --> 00:18:05,439 really take it to the next level and 406 00:18:03,558 --> 00:18:08,480 that's why I feel like a lot of us are 407 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:10,320 raising our hands and making major 408 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,798 Investments and bringing big investors 409 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:14,439 from all over the world so that we can 410 00:18:11,798 --> 00:18:15,519 make it an inter international treasure 411 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,400 and even if it's going to be an 412 00:18:15,519 --> 00:18:20,440 international secret yeah let's treat it 413 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,400 that way do you think of Virginia as 414 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,120 your 415 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:30,640 home yeah I mean I mean Miami is my home 416 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:32,959 too yeah Virginia Beach Miami Paris yeah 417 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:35,280 Tokyo but when you think home which one 418 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,279 comes 419 00:18:36,919 --> 00:18:42,000 up Virginia is always going to be my 420 00:18:39,159 --> 00:18:44,400 home okay but we live in Paris right at 421 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,279 the moment my kids are there going to 422 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,519 school like but then Tokyo is my home 423 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:51,440 for another reason you know yeah and in 424 00:18:49,519 --> 00:18:54,279 Miami it's just 425 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:57,240 like that never gets 426 00:18:54,279 --> 00:19:00,558 old um tell me about writing new songs 427 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,558 for the movie 428 00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:06,240 I needed to see myself objectified first 429 00:19:03,558 --> 00:19:08,519 to write about myself I've never really 430 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,000 written good music for myself I think I 431 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:12,519 told you this the last time like all of 432 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,880 my best songs are songs that I wrote for 433 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:17,679 somebody else and we just use the demos 434 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:20,960 yeah but I need to get me out of the way 435 00:19:17,679 --> 00:19:23,240 because when I see me I just it's like a 436 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,640 mirror looking at itself like there's no 437 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,079 image there there's nothing inspiring 438 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,280 but when I'm channeling somebody else 439 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:30,639 and it bring something out of me and 440 00:19:28,279 --> 00:19:32,759 they don't use use the record yeah 441 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,679 that's kind of like cuz I'm in service 442 00:19:32,759 --> 00:19:36,319 to others so my best work naturally is 443 00:19:34,679 --> 00:19:40,159 going to be when I am channeling someone 444 00:19:36,319 --> 00:19:44,359 else and not me and seeing myself 445 00:19:40,159 --> 00:19:47,840 objectified allowed me to have enough 446 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:50,918 separation to get inspired and so that's 447 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:54,678 where Peace by piece came 448 00:19:50,919 --> 00:19:57,720 from and there's another one called Lego 449 00:19:54,679 --> 00:20:02,000 Odyssey and in French the way you would 450 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:04,400 say the ego is Le ego l apostrophe ego 451 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,798 and it would be pronounced Lego Wow and 452 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,038 that was based 453 00:20:05,798 --> 00:20:12,679 on most of my life my first 50 years of 454 00:20:09,038 --> 00:20:14,119 my life um at least the first 40 were 455 00:20:12,679 --> 00:20:16,400 just in 456 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:20,038 egocentric and look 457 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Society sort of reads that and supports 458 00:20:20,038 --> 00:20:27,879 that you know I'm the best I'm this I'm 459 00:20:24,599 --> 00:20:29,279 that and you're not you're actually part 460 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,320 of an equation 461 00:20:29,279 --> 00:20:33,558 yeah 462 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:36,399 and what you are when you say I am you 463 00:20:33,558 --> 00:20:40,599 are part of the greater I am and you're 464 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:43,000 lucky to be just 465 00:20:40,599 --> 00:20:46,279 existing you 466 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:49,798 know am is a noun and am is a 467 00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:53,798 verb just like God is a noun and God is 468 00:20:49,798 --> 00:20:57,720 a verb and love is a noun and Love Is A 469 00:20:53,798 --> 00:21:00,759 Verb I wrote about the first 40 plus 470 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,440 years of my life cuz from 40 to 5050 is 471 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:05,400 how I made it it's like a 10year 472 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,919 transition of just this how' it happen 473 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,840 though what triggered it I think I 474 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:11,520 explained this to you the last time like 475 00:21:09,839 --> 00:21:15,519 you 476 00:21:11,519 --> 00:21:19,158 know happy Blurred Lines get lucky three 477 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:22,440 songs that I was commissioned to 478 00:21:19,159 --> 00:21:25,159 write and eventually got attributed to 479 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,200 me due to circumstances and they were 480 00:21:25,159 --> 00:21:29,559 also like I said they were commissions 481 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,600 so it wasn't like you know how like you 482 00:21:29,558 --> 00:21:32,960 wake up one day and you're like yo I'm 483 00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:35,079 going to 484 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,600 make I don't know you woke up one day 485 00:21:35,079 --> 00:21:40,960 and decided you want to do 99 problems 486 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:44,918 right yeah let's pretend 99 Problems was 487 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:47,440 solely your idea yep and most of the 488 00:21:44,919 --> 00:21:49,440 songs of your catalog are solely your 489 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,360 idea you woke up that day and decided 490 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:54,960 you wanted to do 491 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:58,158 that that would lead you to believe that 492 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:01,038 you are controlling your destiny it 493 00:21:58,159 --> 00:22:03,880 would lead Le you to believe that you 494 00:22:01,038 --> 00:22:06,720 sold that many records it would lead you 495 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:10,760 to believe that like 496 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:14,000 your willpower and your existence is 497 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:16,558 solely in control of everything every 498 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:19,640 part of the 499 00:22:16,558 --> 00:22:21,798 process then one day you get three 500 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,799 different commissions to do something so 501 00:22:21,798 --> 00:22:27,359 they're not it is going to be your idea 502 00:22:24,798 --> 00:22:30,519 but it's because someone prompted you 503 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:36,558 hey we need a the right song for this 504 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:40,759 scene hey we need a song for this 505 00:22:36,558 --> 00:22:42,119 artist hey we need you to write a song 506 00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:45,319 to be on our 507 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:47,839 record you do all of that you end up 508 00:22:45,319 --> 00:22:49,918 being on all the 509 00:22:47,839 --> 00:22:52,798 records they all end up being like 510 00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:55,038 number one records and with huge not 511 00:22:52,798 --> 00:22:57,200 just number one records but like 22 512 00:22:55,038 --> 00:22:59,599 million records sold you know what I 513 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,000 mean like 514 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:08,359 on just one song alone like you know and 515 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:11,200 Counting type [ __ ] and then you go oh 516 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,479 I'm not in control and then it Dawns on 517 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,600 you that you didn't sell that many 518 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:19,880 records you you you you wrote a song you 519 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:22,240 produced a song and the fans decided to 520 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,679 download share or like actually buy 521 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,400 physical 522 00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:29,000 copies and then those songs are bigger 523 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,240 than anything you've ever done songs are 524 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,400 like helping people get through their 525 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,200 day it's help some songs is helping 526 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,320 people through their chemotherapy some 527 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:40,080 people some songs is helping people 528 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:41,798 through uh divorce some songs are just 529 00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:43,639 giving people hope like just a whole 530 00:23:41,798 --> 00:23:45,359 bunch of things that 531 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:49,440 like 532 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:52,199 you are humbling to you but then at the 533 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,798 core of all of it you didn't commission 534 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,360 these songs from yourself these songs 535 00:23:53,798 --> 00:23:59,038 were commissions the 536 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:01,959 universe conspired to show you 537 00:23:59,038 --> 00:24:04,720 you all these 538 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:08,679 things and it just made me 539 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:12,278 ball and so that was when I was 40 and 540 00:24:08,679 --> 00:24:15,080 you saw it clearly clear that's great I 541 00:24:12,278 --> 00:24:17,720 I noticed things did you feel 542 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:20,678 relief what was the what was the feeling 543 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:23,200 when you saw it the relief that I felt 544 00:24:20,679 --> 00:24:25,038 was not quite how you're saying it was a 545 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:30,000 different context it was more 546 00:24:25,038 --> 00:24:30,000 like you didn't give up on me 547 00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:36,359 I point to the Sun but this sun is one 548 00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:38,278 of trillions upon trillions upon 549 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,038 trillions upon trillions of 550 00:24:38,278 --> 00:24:43,240 stars but existence the air between you 551 00:24:41,038 --> 00:24:45,759 and I the molecules in you the molecules 552 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,480 in me the molecules and the trees the 553 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:50,158 breeze that we're filling right now any 554 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:53,519 and everything that we're in this Matrix 555 00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:56,360 that we are in of 556 00:24:53,519 --> 00:24:59,558 existence that's my 557 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:01,479 God the Alpha and the Omega 558 00:24:59,558 --> 00:25:02,918 the all that is all that ever was and 559 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,839 all that ever will 560 00:25:02,919 --> 00:25:09,159 be 561 00:25:05,839 --> 00:25:12,119 existence you didn't give up on me and 562 00:25:09,159 --> 00:25:14,399 you gave me another shot and you really 563 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,319 really really demonstrated 564 00:25:14,398 --> 00:25:20,759 it through these three 565 00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:22,519 songs that I was commissioned to do and 566 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:24,599 you left me in on it because I never 567 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:29,558 thought I could ever do anything so big 568 00:25:24,599 --> 00:25:31,079 with me being the featured artist yeah 569 00:25:29,558 --> 00:25:34,839 it was all of 570 00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:38,439 that and I never looked at it the same 571 00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:40,599 and it took me from 40 to 50 to like 572 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,919 really get to a full place of like just 573 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:47,558 humility like there's no need for me to 574 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:50,000 brag there's no need for me to like and 575 00:25:47,558 --> 00:25:55,879 be dramatic 576 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:59,679 and for what yeah I'm so blessed to 577 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:03,799 exist I exist at this 578 00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:06,480 time in this space this longitude this 579 00:26:03,798 --> 00:26:09,359 latitude at this particular jungle 580 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:12,880 juncture I 581 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:16,319 exist I'm so 582 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,679 grateful you know tell me about uh your 583 00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:18,519 relationship to the church church 584 00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:20,880 growing 585 00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:23,839 up church was everything that's where we 586 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:26,919 first saw Spirit you know we saw the 587 00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:28,480 Spirit moving through people you know 588 00:26:26,919 --> 00:26:31,038 we're out here in nature right now and 589 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,360 as the wind blows some of these trees 590 00:26:31,038 --> 00:26:35,480 with the longer branches you you can 591 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,959 tell which way the wind is 592 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:41,240 blowing based on which way the leaves 593 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:43,679 are turning and which way the and how 594 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,240 the sections of branches are blowing in 595 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:47,559 the same 596 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,319 direction and that's how the spirit is 597 00:26:47,558 --> 00:26:52,599 in church when the spirit is really 598 00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:55,000 moving around in there it's like a wave 599 00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:57,558 you just see it you know how like you go 600 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,599 to a big football stadium and you see 601 00:26:57,558 --> 00:27:02,720 people doing the way wave yeah I seen 602 00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:06,038 the spirit do 603 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:08,079 that just moving around people just 604 00:27:06,038 --> 00:27:11,119 throwing their hands up and screaming 605 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:14,839 and shouting and I would see that at you 606 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:17,000 know my uh my dad's church which was was 607 00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:19,038 a Pentecostal church and then my mom's 608 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,558 church was a Baptist church and they 609 00:27:19,038 --> 00:27:23,240 didn't really like shout as much in 610 00:27:21,558 --> 00:27:24,798 there you would hear it but it wasn't 611 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,519 like it was in a Pentecostal church was 612 00:27:24,798 --> 00:27:29,119 it music in church oh yeah it was a lot 613 00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:32,440 of music and it was usually 614 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:34,959 it would begin with something very 615 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:38,640 powerful that the pastor would 616 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:40,759 say you know Elder Bishop there good he 617 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,200 would say something that would just 618 00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:45,960 connect with all of the 619 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:48,519 congregation but then the organist which 620 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:53,600 was most of the time was my my uncle my 621 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:56,359 uncle Ezekiel yeah he would play along 622 00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:58,319 as this guy's preaching but he's 623 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,879 preaching 624 00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:03,558 in a 625 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:06,799 note think future with autotune yeah 626 00:28:03,558 --> 00:28:10,158 right yeah and as he moves future when 627 00:28:06,798 --> 00:28:13,000 future is rhyming he's rhyming and he's 628 00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:15,600 picking a note and he's having these 629 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:18,919 Pockets that correspond with whatever 630 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:21,199 the chords are in the beat right yeah 631 00:28:18,919 --> 00:28:25,480 that's what they would do in church yeah 632 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:27,759 they would hit you know that that a flat 633 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,480 or a sharp you know that a like they 634 00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:31,319 were hit that and then all of a sudden 635 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,519 as he's preaching and saying what he's 636 00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:37,879 saying he's doing it with a 637 00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:40,440 melody and then all of a sudden as he's 638 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:45,278 making his next 639 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:48,679 point the organist would modulate up to 640 00:28:45,278 --> 00:28:50,278 a half step and it would be like and 641 00:28:48,679 --> 00:28:52,360 they would continue to do it up another 642 00:28:50,278 --> 00:28:55,839 step up another step and you're just 643 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:58,599 feeling this Welling feeling that's in 644 00:28:55,839 --> 00:29:00,558 there and man at a certain point it just 645 00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:02,319 would explode the pressure like a pipe 646 00:29:00,558 --> 00:29:05,918 it would explode and all of a sudden 647 00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:05,918 they do they go to a cut time 648 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,360 beat and then and and literally you 649 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,919 seeing people shouting and you seeing 650 00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:18,918 people run up and down the aisles and 651 00:29:12,919 --> 00:29:21,080 you just seeing waves and waves of wafts 652 00:29:18,919 --> 00:29:25,679 of the spirit 653 00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:28,119 just people just moving and I grew up in 654 00:29:25,679 --> 00:29:32,200 that wow and from the pastor and the 655 00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:35,359 organist none of that was rehearsed zero 656 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:38,159 that was a moment in time that where 657 00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:41,519 they just connected improvisation 658 00:29:38,159 --> 00:29:44,278 feeling the moment period amazing period 659 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:46,038 amazing and I would even I I even 660 00:29:44,278 --> 00:29:47,960 venture to say now that you're now that 661 00:29:46,038 --> 00:29:52,158 you're now that you just said what you 662 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,159 said I would say that was my 663 00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:59,480 first that was the first time I ever 664 00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:02,480 encountered urgency 665 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,120 live you could literally if you could 666 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:08,519 cut the 667 00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:10,959 air you could cut a block of the energy 668 00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:12,558 out in that room and if one could 669 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,640 consume it you don't understand the what 670 00:30:12,558 --> 00:30:18,038 you would feel yeah nobody wasn't paying 671 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,080 attention people were everybody was 672 00:30:18,038 --> 00:30:23,440 engaged everybody yeah you could feel it 673 00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:25,599 yeah that's amazing you can feel it and 674 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,519 but that still happens today you know my 675 00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:30,959 uncle's Church uh 676 00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:34,240 uh Faith World 677 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,640 Ministries you know that still happens 678 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,960 today I mean when he preaches he he he 679 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,880 went from being an organist and piano 680 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:45,919 player which he still is to now being a 681 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:48,399 pastor of his own um Ministry and 682 00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:50,080 congregation and you go there you sit 683 00:30:48,398 --> 00:30:53,558 and you 684 00:30:50,079 --> 00:31:00,359 feel it's right off of aelia uh I want 685 00:30:53,558 --> 00:31:03,278 to say aelia in North Virginia aelia Isa 686 00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:05,240 Boulevard when he speaks the 687 00:31:03,278 --> 00:31:08,278 word and 688 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:12,079 him and the uh the organist there the 689 00:31:08,278 --> 00:31:15,240 head organist there uh Larry when they 690 00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:17,038 man what they make the the feeling that 691 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,079 they're able to conjure and the way that 692 00:31:17,038 --> 00:31:22,000 the spirit just comes into that 693 00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:23,879 building it's just there something else 694 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,480 the reason so much great music comes out 695 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:31,200 of the church oh yeah the best musicians 696 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:33,120 the best singers yes and I think what 697 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,558 conditions them is the spirit access to 698 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:38,079 the spirit yeah and for me to be clear 699 00:31:36,558 --> 00:31:41,319 yeah when I talked about the all that is 700 00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:43,000 all that is all that ever was all that 701 00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:46,839 ever will be you know the Alpha and the 702 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:50,720 Omega you know the Matrix itself 703 00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:52,720 existence to me the spirit is the energy 704 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:56,519 of all that everything that 705 00:31:52,720 --> 00:32:00,079 exists it's the spirit it's the kinetic 706 00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:01,720 side of it's all that what makes it 707 00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:03,759 happen what makes everything happen 708 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,159 creation the energy 709 00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:07,519 yeah did you look forward to going to 710 00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:11,440 church during the 711 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:13,880 week no it felt like a chore sometimes 712 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:17,120 cuz man you know the way that we grew up 713 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:20,240 it was like Wednesday night bible study 714 00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:22,558 you know prayer over at the house 715 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,960 Thursday or Friday 716 00:32:22,558 --> 00:32:29,119 night you know choir rehearsal on 717 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,360 Saturday Sunday morning Church go to the 718 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:33,119 first service in the morning sometimes 719 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:35,638 go to the the second service in the 720 00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:38,359 evening I mean it was different it was a 721 00:32:35,638 --> 00:32:39,879 lot yeah and I wanted to do other things 722 00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:42,678 because outside of church where the 723 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,320 secular music was was like Michael 724 00:32:42,679 --> 00:32:47,840 Jackson and like you know the Jacksons 725 00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:49,720 and you know Stevie Wonder music and 726 00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:53,359 James Brown and that's a different kind 727 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:56,360 of spirit that's a different side of the 728 00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:58,278 spirit but I'm very grateful for my 729 00:32:56,359 --> 00:33:01,479 formative years that that's that helped 730 00:32:58,278 --> 00:33:05,679 me to see I learned what urgency and 731 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:09,159 improvisation really was through the 732 00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:12,440 church you talked about that that 733 00:33:09,159 --> 00:33:14,320 Revelation between 40 and 50 mhm did you 734 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,080 learn anything about yourself in making 735 00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:18,359 the 736 00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:19,879 movie I did again I saw my soul's 737 00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:22,479 purpose for the first 738 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:25,919 time tell me about that can I face the 739 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,558 sun sure man the sun is like amazing 740 00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:30,080 right now feels so good doesn't it it 741 00:33:27,558 --> 00:33:33,398 does feel so good 742 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:35,839 inside I never really like knew my 743 00:33:33,398 --> 00:33:37,119 soul's purpose I I can see everywhere 744 00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:40,240 accept the 745 00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:43,158 future for 746 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,038 myself I can sometimes discern it 747 00:33:43,159 --> 00:33:46,960 through 748 00:33:44,038 --> 00:33:51,038 people what their Futures might 749 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:54,639 be and for them but I can't do it for 750 00:33:51,038 --> 00:33:58,720 myself never been able to and it was 751 00:33:54,638 --> 00:34:01,278 weird having this film as a tool 752 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:04,278 a therapeutic tool by the way but a tool 753 00:34:01,278 --> 00:34:06,839 to help me see who I really am and what 754 00:34:04,278 --> 00:34:08,480 my purpose is because I've never really 755 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:10,199 gotten it I've never really seen what 756 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,440 people see I just think I'm just lucky 757 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:14,638 as hell like I don't know what y'all see 758 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:18,039 but I ain't going to talk you out of 759 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:20,440 it you know what I'm saying it's like I 760 00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:24,159 mean are you like that or you do you get 761 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:26,119 you get why you are the Rick rubben no 762 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:30,358 I'm just me and just do what I like 763 00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:32,079 that's it simple same yeah but the fact 764 00:34:30,358 --> 00:34:33,679 that you have the Fanfare and the 765 00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:35,919 respect that you have in the industry 766 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:39,800 and just the audience that you have for 767 00:34:35,918 --> 00:34:42,199 anything that you do do you get it I'm 768 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:46,280 appreciative of it but that's it that's 769 00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:49,319 it I'm grateful thankful same but also I 770 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:51,159 don't do it for that I do it for the you 771 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,720 know the purity of the thing I want to 772 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:57,760 feel the thing and then other people 773 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:59,439 like it that's the best bonus sure but 774 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,160 we I believe we would both be doing what 775 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,079 we're doing if nobody cared about it 776 00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:05,480 either 100% And often times and often 777 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:07,400 times when they don't get it we still do 778 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,480 it yeah absolutely yeah and we still 779 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,320 love those things as much as we love the 780 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:15,159 ones that sometimes better sometimes 781 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,480 better those are the Fine Wines yeah 782 00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:20,039 yeah yeah that's that part's not in our 783 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,880 control but when we're making it we can 784 00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:26,719 keep working on it till we love it 785 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:29,119 yeah I want this for everybody man yeah 786 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,399 everyone can do it everyone can do it 787 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:32,358 not everyone's going to like everything 788 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,680 you make but you can have that 789 00:35:32,358 --> 00:35:38,519 experience of making something and 790 00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:40,279 working on it until it's a true 791 00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:43,039 reflection of what you think is 792 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,400 beautiful well we just live in a society 793 00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:49,119 that pushes 794 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:52,079 people and really really hammers into 795 00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:53,358 them that they got to go do things that 796 00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:58,039 make the most 797 00:35:53,358 --> 00:36:00,679 money versus what they love and I think 798 00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:02,838 if you can find something that you love 799 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:04,960 even if like if you're a football player 800 00:36:02,838 --> 00:36:07,838 I mean if you love football 801 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:10,358 yeah but you ain't nowhere near big 802 00:36:07,838 --> 00:36:14,480 enough or fast enough or whatever the 803 00:36:10,358 --> 00:36:15,358 requirements might might be listen to be 804 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,480 a 805 00:36:15,358 --> 00:36:22,480 therapist or um physical therapist or to 806 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:25,119 be any from anything from a water boy or 807 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,760 like to sell concessions you're gonna 808 00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:30,720 love your job yeah if you're around it 809 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,640 man that's a great life yeah and I feel 810 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,838 like society would be so much better if 811 00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:37,559 we had that but that's not what they do 812 00:36:35,838 --> 00:36:39,000 they you know they you know your parents 813 00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:40,599 tell you you got to be a doctor or a 814 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,358 lawyer and by the way there are some 815 00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:43,960 great doctors and and who really wanted 816 00:36:42,358 --> 00:36:46,039 to be that and some great lawyers who 817 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,639 really want to be that but what about 818 00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:52,358 everybody else yeah it would what would 819 00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:56,559 what would America 820 00:36:52,358 --> 00:36:59,759 be if everybody did mostly the jobs or 821 00:36:56,559 --> 00:37:02,039 worked in Environ or worked in within 822 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:06,079 industries that had a subject matter 823 00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:07,719 that they love and were obsessed with 824 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:11,359 how many billionaires and ctim 825 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:15,159 Millionaires and millionaires hate their 826 00:37:11,358 --> 00:37:18,598 lives it doesn't it's not 827 00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:22,639 about the ultimate part about it is not 828 00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:25,039 it's not money yeah the means are 829 00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:27,719 important but the the means and the 830 00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:29,719 currency is important but like the idea 831 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,000 of like money being like the end all be 832 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,039 all is just not true now you wouldn't be 833 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,440 able to afford this place if it weren't 834 00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:40,559 for strategy and the right timing yeah 835 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:43,679 and currency but it's a bonus right but 836 00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:45,838 it's not the end all be all it's not the 837 00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:47,399 end all be all despite anything you 838 00:37:45,838 --> 00:37:50,639 might 839 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:53,400 see it isn't at the end of the day it's 840 00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:55,639 like loving what you being able to do 841 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:59,000 what you 842 00:37:55,639 --> 00:38:02,480 love endlessly 843 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,280 I want that for people man yeah I think 844 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,280 the best way to do it you lead by 845 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,440 example you know show people that it's 846 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,240 possible yeah cuz I love music music is 847 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,960 the skeleton key that opened up every 848 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,719 door for me 849 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:17,318 yeah how did you come to be a part of 850 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:21,598 Louis 851 00:38:17,318 --> 00:38:25,960 Vuitton got a phone call 852 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:28,240 um and I was so like thrown off cuz I 853 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,838 just never expected i' be able to do it 854 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,279 I 855 00:38:28,838 --> 00:38:33,039 mean I just wasn't even it didn't even 856 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,599 cross my mind cuz I worked with them 20 857 00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:39,119 years ago Mark Jacobs uh tapped me to do 858 00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:42,880 some sunglasses with them myself and I 859 00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:44,519 brought nego along it was 20 years ago 860 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,480 and 861 00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:49,519 then then I think 19 years ago they came 862 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,199 out they hit the market but we had start 863 00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:54,679 working on them 20 years ago so I 864 00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:57,919 thought okay I did sunglasses there I 865 00:38:54,679 --> 00:39:01,279 did um 866 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:03,960 we also did like uh 867 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:08,560 jewelry few years later I did a campaign 868 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:12,358 with them and I thought okay my time 869 00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:14,480 there is good and it's up and you know I 870 00:39:12,358 --> 00:39:17,598 eventually went on the Monclair and I 871 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:20,880 started working with uh 872 00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:23,920 Chanel and I just you know thought that 873 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:27,760 was it my brother Virgil 874 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,519 was you know he had gotten 875 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,000 uh the 876 00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:33,599 appointment and I thought that's so cool 877 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,480 cuz he was there in the very beginning 878 00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:37,000 when him and Kanye were there in the 879 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,599 very beginning when we first got it in 880 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,199 fact there's a photo of all three of us 881 00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:42,960 and they're trying on the sunglasses I 882 00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:46,279 did back then so the idea that like him 883 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,318 wearing them glasses existed and then he 884 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,880 went on to be the guy yeah that was 885 00:39:49,318 --> 00:39:55,239 enough for me amazing yeah that was like 886 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:58,280 oh no like that's 887 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,759 it what were your expectations 888 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,119 and then what were you met with when you 889 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,020 got there I didn't have any expectations 890 00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:05,838 but I did go in there with a plan 891 00:40:04,019 --> 00:40:09,280 [Music] 892 00:40:05,838 --> 00:40:12,119 mhm I didn't know the way that I looked 893 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:16,280 at fashion and the way that I wanted to 894 00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:17,318 like build out my system and what would 895 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,079 work for 896 00:40:17,318 --> 00:40:24,559 me and they they agreed they're like 897 00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:27,640 okay this works very grateful that it's 898 00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:30,199 it's been good it's been really good we 899 00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:32,639 get to tell stories and I get inspired 900 00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:35,799 by different parts of the world and you 901 00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:37,639 know it's a it's a travel brand so we 902 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,680 tell this we constantly tell stories 903 00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:44,199 about you know humans traveling and what 904 00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:45,960 they learn in different areas being 905 00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:48,358 inspired by these areas and working with 906 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:51,039 local Artisans of these different places 907 00:40:48,358 --> 00:40:53,679 around the world it's been it's been a 908 00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:56,000 real living 909 00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:57,639 dream I don't take any of it for granted 910 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,880 I can't believe I'm here man last time I 911 00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:01,920 was sitting here talking to you I didn't 912 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,920 know this was all going to happen wild 913 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,639 yeah I told you I can't see the future 914 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,599 for myself 915 00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:10,400 yeah how has being a father changed your 916 00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:15,318 life 917 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:19,000 immensely being responsible for four new 918 00:41:15,318 --> 00:41:22,318 Spirits coming into this world helping 919 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,679 to shape their experiences in their 920 00:41:22,318 --> 00:41:27,559 formative 921 00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:30,639 years all while making sure that My 922 00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:33,000 Lifestyle does not corrupt their point 923 00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:36,159 of view on how what the world real world 924 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,639 really is has been one of the greatest 925 00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:41,039 Gifts of my 926 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:43,039 life you know these are four songs that 927 00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:46,079 I co-wrote with my 928 00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:49,679 wife whose Bridges continue to rewrite 929 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:49,680 themselves as they grow 930 00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:56,239 old you 931 00:41:52,960 --> 00:42:00,159 know during the holidays we go 932 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:04,759 and we go and we feed and serve the 933 00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:07,078 homeless we go and you know to different 934 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,880 Children's Hospitals where there are a 935 00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:11,079 lot 936 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:14,119 of kids that are challenged with like 937 00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:17,880 conditions that a lot of times are 938 00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:19,760 uncurable or haven't been cured yet and 939 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:23,760 that's because I want my children to 940 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:27,599 understand having to have real coping 941 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,520 skills and to see what real courage 942 00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:31,160 looks 943 00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:34,280 like a child that wakes up and gets bad 944 00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:37,159 news that day and realizes that it's 945 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,280 going to be a tough ride 946 00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:41,960 and where they wake up every day and 947 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:46,000 they face that day for what it 948 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:49,119 is I wanted my kids to have that and so 949 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,599 I'm on it I don't I'm strict about it I 950 00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:54,440 don't play I'm a strict 951 00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:56,880 dad but but because the world is Harsh 952 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,400 yeah you know I think when parents say 953 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,400 things like oh I never want my kids to 954 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,079 struggle the way that I did well you 955 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:08,240 have to understand the way your 956 00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:08,240 struggle produced you being a 957 00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:14,960 hardworking critical thinking individual 958 00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:16,598 and when you don't allow your kids to 959 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,119 have guided 960 00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:21,359 struggle they don't develop the coping 961 00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:25,760 skills they don't have the 962 00:43:21,358 --> 00:43:29,078 courage they don't can't deal with 963 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:32,280 challenges and um 964 00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:34,800 um it often times doesn't end so 965 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:39,519 well tell me about uh things going to be 966 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,519 all right the Kendrick's Tong 967 00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:46,559 yeah that was a record that like did you 968 00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:49,000 write that hook yeah I had no idea that 969 00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:52,839 you wrote The Hook yeah what that's me 970 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:56,079 on the hook I had no idea yeah and then 971 00:43:52,838 --> 00:43:58,960 my buddy KP who was a anr he was like 972 00:43:56,079 --> 00:44:01,960 cuz I was like we gonna be all 973 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:04,639 right and the way I was saying it I was 974 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:07,318 saying it on some Virginia [ __ ] and yeah 975 00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:10,799 that's what makes it well well he 976 00:44:07,318 --> 00:44:13,159 corrected me to say all right to put the 977 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,440 r in there and so I ended up doing 978 00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:18,279 it but you but it still sound like I'm 979 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,880 saying all right all right yeah but uh 980 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,760 maybe you put out the street version the 981 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:27,720 remix with the proper all right yeah at 982 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:30,640 some point but yeah like that was that 983 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:33,639 was like it was just a feeling in the 984 00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:36,000 song and you 985 00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:38,558 know Kendrick really got it he really 986 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:43,318 understood it who knew that it was going 987 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:45,240 to go on and represent the feeling and 988 00:44:43,318 --> 00:44:47,558 thought of the 989 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,039 culture in the air that time yeah the 990 00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:53,000 timing was unbelievable whoa would you 991 00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:55,920 say you live more in your head or your 992 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,920 body you know most of my life I lived in 993 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:05,240 my head I think I'm now just starting to 994 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:08,400 explore the energy Departments of my 995 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,159 body I was also less concerned with like 996 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,599 my 997 00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:16,598 chakras and now like I think about those 998 00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:20,480 yeah as I think about my 999 00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:23,400 organs and I think about like having 1000 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,400 everything work in 1001 00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:29,039 harmony the things the esoteric readings 1002 00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:32,280 that you know the egri casy esoteric 1003 00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:38,318 readings that I would like into you 1004 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:39,880 know in my late 20s are now like M like 1005 00:45:38,318 --> 00:45:42,358 I'm not just curious about it I'm I 1006 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:46,160 actually live it yeah I want my organs 1007 00:45:42,358 --> 00:45:49,400 to be in line so that I can vibrate 1008 00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:51,879 harmoniously and be yeah human being 1009 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,760 yeah and be yeah that that's also a verb 1010 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:57,519 and a 1011 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:58,839 noun being and I also want to like Le by 1012 00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:03,480 example you 1013 00:45:58,838 --> 00:46:03,480 know tell me about your relationship to 1014 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:09,598 Rhythm um I've always had a relationship 1015 00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:11,199 to Rhythm I think I got like add just 1016 00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:15,079 never was 1017 00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:16,399 diagnosed and so I was always like and a 1018 00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:21,599 little bit of 1019 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,599 ADHD when what you get distracted by is 1020 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:28,599 music then you you you ask yourself okay 1021 00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:31,720 is it ADHD or is it inspiration 1022 00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:34,760 you know inspiration and 1023 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:37,039 drive I was always hearing like drum 1024 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,319 patterns but if you think about it I 1025 00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:42,880 mean you say drums your primary 1026 00:46:39,318 --> 00:46:45,119 instrument yeah if you think about it 1027 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,760 you know the universe is ruled 1028 00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:49,800 by 1029 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,319 Rhythm the solar system is what it is 1030 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,280 the planets stay in the pattern that 1031 00:46:51,318 --> 00:46:57,440 they're in even the Sun the planets 1032 00:46:54,280 --> 00:47:01,119 around it like it can all be measured to 1033 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:05,000 a beat there are stages which is what a 1034 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:08,640 technically a beat would be um but we 1035 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:12,039 have a pulse we have a 1036 00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:15,078 heartbeat and we're born with the 1037 00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:18,960 Rhythm I mean the beginning of the 1038 00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:22,079 universe is described as a 1039 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:25,400 sound the big bang that would mean 1040 00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:28,839 that's the start of the beat of all the 1041 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,838 of everything that exists 1042 00:47:30,358 --> 00:47:33,480 the universe thought it would a beat 1043 00:47:31,838 --> 00:47:36,239 yeah and then the beat dropped is what 1044 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:41,280 the Bible says 1045 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:44,078 yeah yeah how is um programmed music 1046 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:47,000 different than human played music two 1047 00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:49,839 different things one I mean programed 1048 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:53,400 music is amazing but man when human 1049 00:47:49,838 --> 00:47:56,119 beings lock in is a feeling that you get 1050 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,000 from it no machines can make what you 1051 00:47:56,119 --> 00:48:00,318 described in the church Church what'll 1052 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:03,920 be scary is when AI gets to that 1053 00:48:00,318 --> 00:48:06,400 place can it 1054 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,599 yeah anything that is 1055 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:12,079 conceivable can 1056 00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:15,000 happen tell me about the tall hats that 1057 00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:16,160 was a Vivian Westwood hat I was inspired 1058 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,679 by Malcolm 1059 00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:22,558 McLaren um his Buffalo 1060 00:48:18,679 --> 00:48:25,118 hat and um it's such a cool hat yeah 1061 00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:27,200 that was like 10 years ago gamechanging 1062 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:29,358 hat though I never saw how like that 1063 00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:32,358 before yeah I was 1064 00:48:29,358 --> 00:48:33,880 crazy I go through my phases of like 1065 00:48:32,358 --> 00:48:35,239 moments where you can't tell me nothing 1066 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,119 I'm going to wear it regardless of the 1067 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,439 WEA I don't care what you think I wish 1068 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:41,680 you out again and then when but then 1069 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:46,720 when I'm off it I'm off it yeah yeah and 1070 00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:50,759 I'm off it tell me about um fashion in 1071 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:54,039 Hip-Hop Hip-Hop has been like one of the 1072 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:57,520 greatest fashion shows and 1073 00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:59,838 displays my friend Eric Paul 1074 00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:03,960 when he was 1075 00:48:59,838 --> 00:49:07,679 young uh he and I used to listen to the 1076 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:09,400 Beasty Boys License to Ill record back 1077 00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:12,759 in Salem 1078 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:15,240 Village um on repeat why we just skated 1079 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:21,280 all day every day and this is like you 1080 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:25,199 know hooy Power perela Times Rob rasop 1081 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:27,798 like Tony Hawk decks and independent 1082 00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:30,318 trucks and back then it was like if you 1083 00:49:27,798 --> 00:49:33,159 skated Street you skated on 85s if you 1084 00:49:30,318 --> 00:49:34,920 skated on the ramp you skated 92s which 1085 00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:37,719 was in between but then there was also 1086 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:40,200 97s and 99s which was super hard like 1087 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,199 that was my life yeah and listening to 1088 00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:44,639 the Beasty Boys and reading the Rick 1089 00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:46,399 rubben name I can't believe I'm sitting 1090 00:49:44,639 --> 00:49:49,960 here right 1091 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:52,000 now like the Run DMC music and then when 1092 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:55,358 you so you think about all the clothes 1093 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:58,079 like I wanted a jean jacket because Mike 1094 00:49:55,358 --> 00:50:00,199 D wore a jean jacket 1095 00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:02,599 you know back when he had like the uh 1096 00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:06,679 the Volkswagen the Volkswagen like charm 1097 00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:08,559 on his you know that was everything man 1098 00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:09,960 you know or the idea that I'm with 1099 00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:14,920 Adidas now 1100 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:18,159 and that record my Adidas was everything 1101 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:20,358 and we wanted it that my Adidas record 1102 00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:22,318 changed the conversation from from Puma 1103 00:50:20,358 --> 00:50:25,000 back then I mean you know love and 1104 00:50:22,318 --> 00:50:27,519 respect to Puma but like that changed 1105 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:31,440 the conversation and they actually that 1106 00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:35,639 record saved the Adidas business wow so 1107 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:37,679 yeah Hip Hop was like the stage for like 1108 00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:41,798 fashion what do you think the biggest 1109 00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:44,399 misconception about you is that I'm a 1110 00:50:41,798 --> 00:50:46,679 tech and I'm so 1111 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:51,079 not I'm the 1112 00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:53,719 worst I use technology as much as I need 1113 00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:57,760 to what's your favorite place on the 1114 00:50:53,719 --> 00:51:02,118 planet Tokyo really yeah 1115 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:04,599 why the humility is so thick there so 1116 00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:07,318 it's the people the humility is as thick 1117 00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:09,798 as the humidity is what do you do 1118 00:51:07,318 --> 00:51:12,239 outside of your creative life that has 1119 00:51:09,798 --> 00:51:16,039 the most impact on your creative 1120 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:19,679 life pray beautiful what do you what's 1121 00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:22,838 the Rhythm God is the greatest for 1122 00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:25,399 me I have these very long 1123 00:51:22,838 --> 00:51:28,119 prayers that I pray in the morning 1124 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:30,720 they're very very very long 1125 00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:33,200 there's two different ones and I do them 1126 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:35,719 both every morning when did you start 1127 00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:38,719 doing them I think they just developed 1128 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,879 over the last 20 some years I pray for 1129 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,639 people that I don't even talk to anymore 1130 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,880 just lost contact whatever whatever but 1131 00:51:42,639 --> 00:51:47,879 they just remain in my prayers the 1132 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,880 prayers are just very cemented in my 1133 00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:57,640 mind God is the 1134 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:57,639 greatest and I am grateful yeah 1135 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,720 blessings big bro love you sir yes sir 1136 00:52:01,838 --> 00:52:07,239 man you too thank you so 1137 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,239 much pleasure 83279

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