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we are recording
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we are recording
yes here
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yes here
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yes here
frank sergeant what time is it 850 in
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frank sergeant what time is it 850 in
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frank sergeant what time is it 850 in
the morning we are in the conference
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the morning we are in the conference
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the morning we are in the conference
room of the district attorney
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room of the district attorney
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room of the district attorney
together with Mr. Robert hem and his
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together with Mr. Robert hem and his
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together with Mr. Robert hem and his
defense attorney the tape recorder is on sir when
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defense attorney the tape recorder is on sir when
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defense attorney the tape recorder is on sir when
you told me that you have these recordings I was
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you told me that you have these recordings I was
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you told me that you have these recordings I was
in shock because the representatives of the state of Alaska
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in shock because the representatives of the state of Alaska
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in shock because the representatives of the state of Alaska
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classified my Main goal is to
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classified my Main goal is to
minimize any
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minimize any
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minimize any
harm and impact this could have on
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harm and impact this could have on
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harm and impact this could have on
my
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my
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my
family in any way possible led by roberton
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family in any way possible led by roberton
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family in any way possible led by roberton
absolutely Ordinary life We spent
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absolutely Ordinary life We spent
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absolutely Ordinary life We spent
two days with him I sat at the table with him
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two days with him I sat at the table with him
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two days with him I sat at the table with him
exactly as I am sitting with you now he owned a
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exactly as I am sitting with you now he owned a
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exactly as I am sitting with you now he owned a
bakery near the center He was a
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bakery near the center He was a
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bakery near the center He was a
family man who liked to hunt and fly
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family man who liked to hunt and fly
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family man who liked to hunt and fly
We wanted him to talk about what
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We wanted him to talk about what
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We wanted him to talk about what
Robert Hanson did but he led a double
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Robert Hanson did but he led a double
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Robert Hanson did but he led a double
life I turned for God's sake, he kidnapped a
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life I turned for God's sake, he kidnapped a
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life I turned for God's sake, he kidnapped a
young prostitute, it
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young prostitute, it
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young prostitute, it
can't go on like this, he tried to kidnap J with his plane in
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can't go on like this, he tried to kidnap J with his plane in
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can't go on like this, he tried to kidnap J with his plane in
a cabin in the woods, what if things go wrong again,
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a cabin in the woods, what if things go wrong again,
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a cabin in the woods, what if things go wrong again,
the police claim that he could be responsible for
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the police claim that he could be responsible for
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the police claim that he could be responsible for
12 I need help the body was buried
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12 I need help the body was buried
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12 I need help the body was buried
In shallow graves I really need
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In shallow graves I really need
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In shallow graves I really need
your help it was reminiscent of a
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your help it was reminiscent of a
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your help it was reminiscent of a
verbal he wanted to confess to nothing I'm telling
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verbal he wanted to confess to nothing I'm telling
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verbal he wanted to confess to nothing I'm telling
you the truth you're not telling me the truth Bob I
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you the truth you're not telling me the truth Bob I
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you the truth you're not telling me the truth Bob I
'm saying If we gave up he would have continued
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'm saying If we gave up he would have continued
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'm saying If we gave up he would have continued
with his life knowing that he had won that he had
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defeated us in the end I set out again to
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defeated us in the end I set out again to
town looking for
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town looking for
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town looking for
more I was like a moth
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[Music] it
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[Music] it
beckoned me
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beckoned me
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beckoned me
baker or murderer in the mind of
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monsters
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monsters
nick river 60 km north of anor in
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alaska oh my god by the river nick i
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alaska oh my god by the river nick i
spent
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years i went there to hunt rabbits and
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years i went there to hunt rabbits and
many people i shot there with a bow
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many people i shot there with a bow
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many people i shot there with a bow
set up bear stands and practiced
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set up bear stands and practiced
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set up bear stands and practiced
target shooting on the upper and lower reaches of
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target shooting on the upper and lower reaches of
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target shooting on the upper and lower reaches of
the river it is the most beautiful place in the
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world i met bob in
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world i met bob in
1978 in the
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Hens invited us to dinner and
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Hens invited us to dinner and
introduced me to
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Bob, she indicated to me that she had no friends
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Bob, she indicated to me that she had no friends
and wanted to would I consider a friendship with him
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I thought we could have
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I thought we could have
a lot in common Since he was a
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a lot in common Since he was a
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a lot in common Since he was a
passionate hunter just like
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me
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me
Bob invited me on a flight in his Piper
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Cup plane in Alaska it was quite common to
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Cup plane in Alaska it was quite common to
own a
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plane you can also go hunting by car
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plane you can also go hunting by car
but everyone does that so if
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but everyone does that so if
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but everyone does that so if
you want to get to where the bigger
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you want to get to where the bigger
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you want to get to where the bigger
animals are you have to
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fly in the south of the state i have flown a
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fly in the south of the state i have flown a
huge number of
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huge number of
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huge number of
hours i loved
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hours i loved
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hours i loved
it all day you didn't come across a
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live one one of the hunters i was with he was
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live one one of the hunters i was with he was
friends once he went hunting with Bob and
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friends once he went hunting with Bob and
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friends once he went hunting with Bob and
spent the whole day with him
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when he came back He told me that he
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when he came back He told me that he
didn't feel
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good in his company he talks marshal you and I We hunt
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good in his company he talks marshal you and I We hunt
because we love nature we enjoy being
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because we love nature we enjoy being
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because we love nature we enjoy being
waited on We admire animals even when
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waited on We admire animals even when
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we are not hunting them Bob says he's not like that and he
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we are not hunting them Bob says he's not like that and he
just enjoys
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killing Alaska is a huge country
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killing Alaska is a huge country
you can get lost in an instant
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John daley police department
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John daley police department
encore I'm John dy and
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encore I'm John dy and
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encore I'm John dy and
I've been with the police department since 1980
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I've been with the police department since 1980
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I've been with the police department since 1980
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September 12th a friend and I decided to
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September 12th a friend and I decided to
go moose hunting by the
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Nick River as we were walking along the river
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Nick River as we were walking along the river
we noticed a depression that
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we noticed a depression that
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we noticed a depression that
didn't look
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didn't look
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didn't look
natural at all we looked closer and found
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natural at all we looked closer and found
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natural at all we looked closer and found
something that resembled pieces of
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clothing we noticed a piece of denim
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clothing we noticed a piece of denim
it looked like flap and when we
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it looked like flap and when we
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it looked like flap and when we
lifted it we saw something like skin under it
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we called the State
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we called the State
Police when they started to uncover the body the smell of
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Police when they started to uncover the body the smell of
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Police when they started to uncover the body the smell of
decomposition got stronger and
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a white woman around her head she had something that
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a white woman around her head she had something that
looked like a bandage, the kind of bandage she uses to
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looked like a bandage, the kind of bandage she uses to
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looked like a bandage, the kind of bandage she uses to
tighten her ankle, her
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tighten her ankle, her
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tighten her ankle, her
head and
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eyes were bandaged with that, do you remember what she looked like, how tall she was,
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eyes were bandaged with that, do you remember what she looked like, how tall she was,
what kind of hair she had,
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I didn't want her to know where
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I didn't want her to know where
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I didn't want her to know where
we're going
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it gave me a sense of
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it gave me a sense of
possibility and
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possibility and
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possibility and
power and seeming control over my
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life If everything was going
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life If everything was going
well it
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well it
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well it
didn't go well but this time it got out of
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didn't go well but this time it got out of
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didn't go well but this time it got out of
control
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at the scene of the crime they started spilling
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at the scene of the crime they started spilling
clay one of the things they found was
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clay one of the things they found was
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clay one of the things they found was
a shell casing it was a .223 caliber shell
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the chest it went right through her
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the chest it went right through her
heart She was trying to run away or J did it
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heart She was trying to run away or J did it
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heart She was trying to run away or J did it
because she was
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because she was
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because she was
fighting back she was fighting back and started
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fighting back she was fighting back and started
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fighting back she was fighting back and started
running so I caught her again She was just
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running so I caught her again She was just
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running so I caught her again She was just
standing there screaming at me and so I
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standing there screaming at me and so I
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standing there screaming at me and so I
pointed the gun at N and Pressed
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the trigger when I came to the encore
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the trigger when I came to the encore
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the trigger when I came to the encore
I wasn't even 18 yet I'm very young and
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I wasn't even 18 yet I'm very young and
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I wasn't even 18 yet I'm very young and
inexperienced, I tend to
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inexperienced, I tend to
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inexperienced, I tend to
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dance, I danced for the Good
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she had blonde hair, she was
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she had blonde hair, she was
nice and had very nice
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nice and had very nice
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nice and had very nice
curves, in short, she was charming A girl with a hem
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curves, in short, she was charming A girl with a hem
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curves, in short, she was charming A girl with a hem
We even borrowed costumes We were
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We even borrowed costumes We were
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We even borrowed costumes We were
very
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similar what we could to
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similar what we could to
overcome each
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overcome each
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overcome each
denor together was a
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denor together was a
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denor together was a
very scary place for a single girl it was a lonely big
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very scary place for a single girl it was a lonely big
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very scary place for a single girl it was a lonely big
wild city full of wild
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in anor it was crazy during the boom of oil production
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in anor it was crazy during the boom of oil production
a lot of people came to Alaska
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a lot of people came to Alaska
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a lot of people came to Alaska
just to get fast
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just to get fast
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just to get fast
money
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and like in any prosperous city where there
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and like in any prosperous city where there
is money and men there are no shortage of women
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is money and men there are no shortage of women
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is money and men there are no shortage of women
who are attracted by this combination
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l hal co-author of Butcher baker
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l hal co-author of Butcher baker
My name is l ha and I'm co-author of
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My name is l ha and I'm co-author of
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My name is l ha and I'm co-author of
B Baker's book about the
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B Baker's book about the
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B Baker's book about the
Ford Avenue case in the center was the main
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Ford Avenue case in the center was the main
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Ford Avenue case in the center was the main
part of the loud
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part of the loud
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part of the loud
neighborhood there were a lot of businesses
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neighborhood there were a lot of businesses
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neighborhood there were a lot of businesses
where you danced on the mountain without and also
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where you danced on the mountain without and also
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where you danced on the mountain without and also
a lot of massage parlors there was the
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a lot of massage parlors there was the
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a lot of massage parlors there was the
Cherry club or
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Cherry club or
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Cherry club or
goodtimes also the Kit
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Alaska club there so much money and so much
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Alaska club there so much money and so much
cocaine that it was
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cocaine that it was
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cocaine that it was
absurd I remember piles of cocaine
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absurd I remember piles of cocaine
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absurd I remember piles of cocaine
that would cover the whole
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that would cover the whole
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that would cover the whole
table it was a place where there were no
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table it was a place where there were no
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table it was a place where there were no
rules a place reminiscent of an even
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rules a place reminiscent of an even
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rules a place reminiscent of an even
wilder Wild West in Alaska
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wilder Wild West in Alaska
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wilder Wild West in Alaska
they tolerated prostitution like nowhere
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they tolerated prostitution like nowhere
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they tolerated prostitution like nowhere
else in the
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states
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states
on the way from work I rushed to the city
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on the way from work I rushed to the city
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on the way from work I rushed to the city
where I sat down and watched the prostitutes
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where I sat down and watched the prostitutes
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where I sat down and watched the prostitutes
make their way down the
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street it was exciting I had it like
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street it was exciting I had it like
nothing else in my life, it filled me with sexual
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energy. It was Ul, where they were
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looking for dancers for a dance club and Honolulu, Hawaii. we
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have to live in their hostel and
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have to live in their hostel and
every day
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every day
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every day
in the club our debt
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gets worse they brought us to this building
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gets worse they brought us to this building
and said we will
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and said we will
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and said we will
live here we went inside and saw
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live here we went inside and saw
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live here we went inside and saw
literally only two bare
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literally only two bare
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literally only two bare
mattresses It was a cold empty room with no
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mattresses It was a cold empty room with no
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mattresses It was a cold empty room with no
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life in it there wasn't even a pillow to lie on
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All I could think about was how to
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All I could think about was how to
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All I could think about was how to
get out of there how to escape and how long
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get out of there how to escape and how long
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get out of there how to escape and how long
I might have to do this before they
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let me go serial killers choose
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let me go serial killers choose
vulnerable
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vulnerable
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vulnerable
people and that These women definitely
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were I don't even remember where I
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were I don't even remember where I
came across them But mostly they were dancers
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came across them But mostly they were dancers
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came across them But mostly they were dancers
on the streets or in clubs
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I always told them that
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I always told them that
I would only pay them for it it's going to be a little different and it's the
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I would only pay them for it it's going to be a little different and it's the
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I would only pay them for it it's going to be a little different and it's the
way I tell myself not the way she wants I
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remember the guy who bought me
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remember the guy who bought me
a bottle of champagne and invited me to
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a bottle of champagne and invited me to
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a bottle of champagne and invited me to
sit with him I had a very
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sit with him I had a very
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sit with him I had a very
very strange
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feeling about him he kept repeating that he had a
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feeling about him he kept repeating that he had a
plane and I told him she just nodded.
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plane and I told him she just nodded.
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plane and I told him she just nodded.
He asked me if I would go
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He asked me if I would go
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He asked me if I would go
on a date with him and I said that I would rather
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on a date with him and I said that I would rather
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on a date with him and I said that I would rather
not. Some of the girls often
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not. Some of the girls often
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not. Some of the girls often
earned extra money in other ways, but
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earned extra money in other ways, but
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earned extra money in other ways, but
not me.
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by the fact
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by the fact
that she is on a date with a guy who has a
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that she is on a date with a guy who has a
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that she is on a date with a guy who has a
plane I told her that I was alone with him I
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plane I told her that I was alone with him I
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plane I told her that I was alone with him I
talked to him until I got goosebumps I ask
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talked to him until I got goosebumps I ask
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talked to him until I got goosebumps I ask
her why you want to meet him and she
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her why you want to meet him and she
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her why you want to meet him and she
is quite nice about it I think she
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is quite nice about it I think she
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is quite nice about it I think she
will accompany me to
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see him in that an opportunity to get
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see him in that an opportunity to get
out of there and maybe get a nice
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out of there and maybe get a nice
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out of there and maybe get a nice
boyfriend to have something nice outside of that
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horror We got up and had breakfast as always and
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horror We got up and had breakfast as always and
headed to the place about a block away where she
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headed to the place about a block away where she
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headed to the place about a block away where she
was supposed to meet Robert Hansen
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I told her to enjoy it And she said she
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I told her to enjoy it And she said she
would And that was all see you
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would And that was all see you
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would And that was all see you
later but there was no then
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October
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October
1982 about a month later we found a
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1982 about a month later we found a
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1982 about a month later we found a
dead woman by the Nick River who was
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dead woman by the Nick River who was
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dead woman by the Nick River who was
identified as Sher
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identified as Sher
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identified as Sher
Morova Sher Morová 24 years old I remember
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Morova Sher Morová 24 years old I remember
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Morova Sher Morová 24 years old I remember
when I read about it in the newspaper
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when I read about it in the newspaper
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when I read about it in the newspaper
when I saw Sher's photo It totally
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when I saw Sher's photo It totally
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when I saw Sher's photo It totally
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shocked me I felt terrible because
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shocked me I felt terrible because
I accompanied her on her last
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I accompanied her on her last
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I accompanied her on her last
date how would you they felt
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you when I read about the body found by the
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you when I read about the body found by the
nck river I realized that it coincides with
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nck river I realized that it coincides with
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nck river I realized that it coincides with
what is happening to the other
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what is happening to the other
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what is happening to the other
girls I declared that this is a
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girls I declared that this is a
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girls I declared that this is a
serial
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serial
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serial
killer but they didn't listen to me Maxin
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killer but they didn't listen to me Maxin
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killer but they didn't listen to me Maxin
Ferová the police department I am with Maxov and I
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Ferová the police department I am with Maxov and I
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Ferová the police department I am with Maxov and I
worked on homicide division of the
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worked on homicide division of the
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worked on homicide division of the
police department
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in I was one of the first two women in the
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in I was one of the first two women in the
police department there We had
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police department there We had
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police department there We had
no room of our own no
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no room of our own no
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no room of our own no
changing rooms we had to change in the toilets
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people came up to us and they asked us why we'd
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people came up to us and they asked us why we'd
rather not be at home with the
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children on the hens case I started
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children on the hens case I started
working when I found
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[Music]
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[Music]
ekou we received a report from the dispatching unit
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ekou we received a report from the dispatching unit
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ekou we received a report from the dispatching unit
at the Äeská unit we went to the lutna river the
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at the Äeská unit we went to the lutna river the
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at the Äeská unit we went to the lutna river the
access point for the
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access point for the
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access point for the
eklutna electricians 45 km north of Odor
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eklutna electricians 45 km north of Odor
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eklutna electricians 45 km north of Odor
in
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in
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in
Alaska when the electricians there
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Alaska when the electricians there
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Alaska when the electricians there
were going down they found
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were going down they found
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were going down they found
the body on the spot, I was sent
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the body on the spot, I was sent
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the body on the spot, I was sent
and we started
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digging, we immediately recognized that it was a
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digging, we immediately recognized that it was a
prostitute by the clothes and jewelry she was
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prostitute by the clothes and jewelry she was
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prostitute by the clothes and jewelry she was
wearing to myself
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I don't remember if she was a dancer
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I don't remember if she was a dancer
or a
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or a
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or a
prostitute All I know is that I picked her up and
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prostitute All I know is that I picked her up and
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prostitute All I know is that I picked her up and
told her I was going to take her
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nar she had no ID with me We had no
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nar she had no ID with me We had no
record of her
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record of her
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record of her
We thought she was in Anchorage
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[Music]
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[Music]
new started running down the road and I
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new started running down the road and I
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new started running down the road and I
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caught up with her I grabbed her
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caught up with her I grabbed her
hair in her purse she had a big knife a big
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hair in her purse she had a big knife a big
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hair in her purse she had a big knife a big
pocket
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pocket
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pocket
knife she pulled it out and started
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knife she pulled it out and started
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knife she pulled it out and started
brandishing it and that's
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[Music]
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[Music]
the injury according to the glue was not difficult to
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the injury according to the glue was not difficult to
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the injury according to the glue was not difficult to
reconstruct the face and create a likeness of what
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reconstruct the face and create a likeness of what
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reconstruct the face and create a likeness of what
this woman
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looked like she sent j j everywhere
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looked like she sent j j everywhere
you can
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you can
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you can
think of But I got no
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think of But I got no
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think of But I got no
answer I never found out who The
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answer I never found out who The
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answer I never found out who The
woman
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was I was wondering who could have done it
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was I was wondering who could have done it
because this was not a typical
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because this was not a typical
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because this was not a typical
[Music]
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crime, but soon after that I received a
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crime, but soon after that I received a
message about another missing person, she was a female
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Prosova, 24 years old, I thought this was
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Prosova, 24 years old, I thought this was
a prostitute, which coincides with
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a prostitute, which coincides with
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a prostitute, which coincides with
UT and from that every month I
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UT and from that every month I
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UT and from that every month I
received two to three reports about missing
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received two to three reports about missing
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received two to three reports about missing
women and that's when I started
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women and that's when I started
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women and that's when I started
asking myself
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questions. I
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again, some police officers thought that
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again, some police officers thought that
such women disappear all the time and that
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such women disappear all the time and that
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such women disappear all the time and that
maybe they just packed up, went to another city
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maybe they just packed up, went to another city
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maybe they just packed up, went to another city
and danced
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there, she said I don't believe that this is the case,
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there, she said I don't believe that this is the case,
according to me, right behind our
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backs, when they came to me these
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backs, when they came to me these
missing persons records got
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missing persons records got
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missing persons records got
I immediately started collecting information from
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I immediately started collecting information from
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I immediately started collecting information from
their relatives about the jewelry they
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their relatives about the jewelry they
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their relatives about the jewelry they
wore I studied psychology
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wore I studied psychology
479
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wore I studied psychology
so I knew that a lot of
480
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so I knew that a lot of
481
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so I knew that a lot of
serial killers keep souvenirs
482
00:21:00,990 --> 00:21:01,000
I made a table with information
483
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I made a table with information
about which girl it is what we know about her And what
484
00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:04,159
about which girl it is what we know about her And what
485
00:21:04,159 --> 00:21:05,990
about which girl it is what we know about her And what
about her
486
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:06,000
about her
487
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,750
about her
we don't know Before I finished it I had
488
00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:08,760
we don't know Before I finished it I had
489
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:14,549
we don't know Before I finished it I had
about 10
490
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:17,760
girls in it I went to my superiors and
491
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,710
girls in it I went to my superiors and
informed them that it was of a
492
00:21:19,710 --> 00:21:19,720
informed them that it was of a
493
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,230
informed them that it was of a
serial killer because of the number of girls she
494
00:21:22,230 --> 00:21:24,669
serial killer because of the number of girls she
495
00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:27,520
picked up among the missing persons cases they laughed at me and said no
496
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picked up among the missing persons cases they laughed at me and said no
honey
497
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honey
498
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,149
honey
Maxin Fer Homicide Investigator
499
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Maxin Fer Homicide Investigator
500
00:21:31,159 --> 00:21:33,669
Maxin Fer Homicide Investigator
Anchorage Police Department They thought
501
00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:33,679
Anchorage Police Department They thought
502
00:21:33,679 --> 00:21:35,789
Anchorage Police Department They thought
I was just a stupid woman who thought there
503
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I was just a stupid woman who thought there
504
00:21:35,799 --> 00:21:38,590
I was just a stupid woman who thought there
was a serial killer running around But I
505
00:21:38,590 --> 00:21:38,600
was a serial killer running around But I
506
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:44,750
was a serial killer running around But I
wasn't
507
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stupid encore I came in
508
00:21:48,279 --> 00:21:51,029
stupid encore I came in
1971 I remember driving
509
00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:51,039
1971 I remember driving
510
00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:53,630
1971 I remember driving
past a shopping center that
511
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past a shopping center that
512
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past a shopping center that
had a thermometer reading 24 degrees below
513
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:56,400
had a thermometer reading 24 degrees below
514
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,870
had a thermometer reading 24 degrees below
zero i thought what did i do to anyone
515
00:21:58,870 --> 00:22:01,710
zero i thought what did i do to anyone
516
00:22:06,909 --> 00:22:06,919
i met pastor robert hanson and his family shortly after i became a pastor at that
517
00:22:06,919 --> 00:22:09,630
i met pastor robert hanson and his family shortly after i became a pastor at that
church
518
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church
519
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church
he was a quiet friendly man i
520
00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:12,799
he was a quiet friendly man i
521
00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,710
he was a quiet friendly man i
didn't notice any dark side
522
00:22:15,710 --> 00:22:15,720
didn't notice any dark side
523
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,310
didn't notice any dark side
that surfaced later or
524
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:18,320
that surfaced later or
525
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,560
that surfaced later or
anything
526
00:22:28,669 --> 00:22:28,679
like that i knew that he has a
527
00:22:28,679 --> 00:22:31,430
like that i knew that he has a
landlord And because I'm a donut fan
528
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:31,440
landlord And because I'm a donut fan
529
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,190
landlord And because I'm a donut fan
I visited her a few times he
530
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I visited her a few times he
531
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I visited her a few times he
acted like everyone
532
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:43,679
else never went to church But Darla
533
00:22:43,679 --> 00:22:51,269
else never went to church But Darla
Robert's wife was religious so she
534
00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:55,120
Yes she was a teacher at the local school and a
535
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Yes she was a teacher at the local school and a
very, very good one. She was an active lady
536
00:22:58,750 --> 00:22:58,760
very, very good one. She was an active lady
537
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very, very good one. She was an active lady
who expressed herself in writing and was one of the
538
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who expressed herself in writing and was one of the
539
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,830
who expressed herself in writing and was one of the
best in the state in terms of teaching
540
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best in the state in terms of teaching
541
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best in the state in terms of teaching
children with dyslexia. She was excellent at that. I
542
00:23:14,430 --> 00:23:14,440
liked her very much. She was
543
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,549
liked her very much. She was
my favorite teacher of all my
544
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my favorite teacher of all my
545
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my favorite teacher of all my
daughters back then. the school
546
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daughters back then. the school
547
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,350
daughters back then. the school
didn't know what to do with all the kids with
548
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:23,360
didn't know what to do with all the kids with
549
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:26,870
didn't know what to do with all the kids with
problems so they put them in darlin's
550
00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:26,880
problems so they put them in darlin's
551
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,549
problems so they put them in darlin's
class
552
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:28,559
class
553
00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:32,269
class
i can't say a bad
554
00:23:35,549 --> 00:23:35,559
word about darla and robert hovy they had two kids
555
00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:39,590
word about darla and robert hovy they had two kids
chy and
556
00:23:42,990 --> 00:23:43,000
johnny here is a picture of kristy in fifth to
557
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johnny here is a picture of kristy in fifth to
sixth
558
00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:44,520
sixth
559
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,789
sixth
grade Yes this was the year
560
00:23:47,789 --> 00:23:47,799
grade Yes this was the year
561
00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:51,470
grade Yes this was the year
82 here i am i was in the same
562
00:23:51,470 --> 00:23:51,480
82 here i am i was in the same
563
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,190
82 here i am i was in the same
class as ch
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00:23:54,190 --> 00:23:54,200
class as ch
565
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,390
class as ch
hans we always waited for
566
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:56,400
hans we always waited for
567
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,870
hans we always waited for
johnny he was younger than
568
00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:58,880
johnny he was younger than
569
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johnny he was younger than
ch she loved her dad to her and johnny
570
00:24:01,630 --> 00:24:01,640
ch she loved her dad to her and johnny
571
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:11,560
ch she loved her dad to her and johnny
was always nice to him he loved his children very much
572
00:24:38,510 --> 00:24:38,520
[Music]
573
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,250
[Music]
I set off for the river
574
00:25:03,549 --> 00:25:03,559
the place I landed on is a gravel area with
575
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the place I landed on is a gravel area with
576
00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:10,320
woods and a processing shed in the distance
577
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:16,280
woods and a processing shed in the distance
578
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:21,120
[Music]
579
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[Music]
the meat is freely
580
00:25:23,630 --> 00:25:23,640
the meat is freely
581
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,149
the meat is freely
accessible so Hunters can
582
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accessible so Hunters can
583
00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:29,430
accessible so Hunters can
hang moose meat in it and
584
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:29,440
hang moose meat in it and
585
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:37,549
hang moose meat in it and
more I told her we would spend the
586
00:25:41,230 --> 00:25:41,240
day there but as soon as we got to her
587
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:47,110
day there but as soon as we got to her
another plane started landing by the river I
588
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:50,240
thought damn that
589
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:56,669
thought damn that
idiot is flying
590
00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:36,120
to shoot him he waved his wings at me and I
591
00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:40,269
to shoot him he waved his wings at me and I
waved at him then he picked up again height and
592
00:26:40,269 --> 00:26:40,279
waved at him then he picked up again height and
593
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:43,909
waved at him then he picked up again height and
went back to the
594
00:26:50,269 --> 00:26:50,279
[Music]
595
00:26:50,279 --> 00:26:54,149
[Music]
scared me a bit but the problem was that I
596
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:54,159
scared me a bit but the problem was that I
597
00:26:54,159 --> 00:26:56,789
scared me a bit but the problem was that I
mentioned to her that meat was processed in that shed
598
00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:56,799
mentioned to her that meat was processed in that shed
599
00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:00,350
mentioned to her that meat was processed in that shed
600
00:27:02,389 --> 00:27:02,399
maybe she started to think
601
00:27:02,399 --> 00:27:05,590
maybe she started to think
that Well I don't know Then it all took a
602
00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:05,600
that Well I don't know Then it all took a
603
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,710
that Well I don't know Then it all took a
bad
604
00:27:19,549 --> 00:27:19,559
1983 a year after the Sheri Plague about a
605
00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:23,549
1983 a year after the Sheri Plague about a
kilometer further downstream, another
606
00:27:23,549 --> 00:27:23,559
kilometer further downstream, another
607
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:26,990
kilometer further downstream, another
body was found and this woman was found by two hunters who
608
00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:27,000
body was found and this woman was found by two hunters who
609
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:36,870
body was found and this woman was found by two hunters who
went on a September
610
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:40,799
elk hunt, she was a very young white woman with a
611
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:43,190
elk hunt, she was a very young white woman with a
gunshot wound in the chest who it went through
612
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:43,200
gunshot wound in the chest who it went through
613
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,190
gunshot wound in the chest who it went through
her
614
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:45,200
her
615
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,830
her
heart and this time too a 223 caliber cartridge was found near the body.
616
00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:51,149
heart and this time too a 223 caliber cartridge was found near the body.
617
00:27:54,350 --> 00:27:54,360
And at that moment things started to go in
618
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,509
And at that moment things started to go in
all possible
619
00:27:56,509 --> 00:27:56,519
all possible
620
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:58,190
all possible
directions,
621
00:27:58,190 --> 00:27:58,200
directions,
622
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,509
directions,
to the fear that an
623
00:28:01,509 --> 00:28:01,519
to the fear that an
624
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:05,110
to the fear that an
owl
625
00:28:08,110 --> 00:28:08,120
killer might be moving around, more and more bodies started to appear,
626
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,710
killer might be moving around, more and more bodies started to appear,
which put a lot of pressure on the police,
627
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:10,720
which put a lot of pressure on the police,
628
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,750
which put a lot of pressure on the police,
and that's when
629
00:28:12,750 --> 00:28:12,760
and that's when
630
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,149
and that's when
sergeant Glen
631
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:19,840
flot FL came into the case he was a state trooper he used a
632
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,470
flot FL came into the case he was a state trooper he used a
very structured way of thinking
633
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:22,480
very structured way of thinking
634
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,430
very structured way of thinking
635
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:29,120
problem solving because they found the bodies and I had
636
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:32,350
problem solving because they found the bodies and I had
their names and times of disappearance following the
637
00:28:32,350 --> 00:28:33,870
their names and times of disappearance following the
638
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:37,360
they announced that they will create a task force
639
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:41,470
they announced that they will create a task force
that will
640
00:28:44,269 --> 00:28:44,279
deal with the cases the police say that there could
641
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:47,110
deal with the cases the police say that there could
be up to 12 women victims they are also asking the public for
642
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:47,120
be up to 12 women victims they are also asking the public for
643
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,389
be up to 12 women victims they are also asking the public for
any
644
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:48,399
any
645
00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:51,430
any
information the state police asked our
646
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:51,440
information the state police asked our
647
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,070
information the state police asked our
chief investigator to release me
648
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:54,080
chief investigator to release me
649
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,630
chief investigator to release me
However I was forbidden to cooperate with them
650
00:28:55,630 --> 00:28:55,640
However I was forbidden to cooperate with them
651
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,029
However I was forbidden to cooperate with them
I was angry I was
652
00:28:58,029 --> 00:28:58,039
I was angry I was
653
00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:00,710
I was angry I was
angry all the victims they had fair hair
654
00:29:00,710 --> 00:29:00,720
angry all the victims they had fair hair
655
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,750
angry all the victims they had fair hair
and a slim figure, they all disappeared after the
656
00:29:02,750 --> 00:29:02,760
and a slim figure, they all disappeared after the
657
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,350
and a slim figure, they all disappeared after the
afternoon date, I agreed to
658
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:05,360
afternoon date, I agreed to
659
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,029
afternoon date, I agreed to
give all the information I had to Flov,
660
00:29:08,029 --> 00:29:08,039
give all the information I had to Flov,
661
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:10,350
give all the information I had to Flov,
so I gave him all the folders,
662
00:29:10,350 --> 00:29:10,360
so I gave him all the folders,
663
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,029
so I gave him all the folders,
everything I had however, as for
664
00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:13,039
everything I had however, as for
665
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:15,350
everything I had however, as for
the suspect, the police say they
666
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:15,360
the suspect, the police say they
667
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,549
the suspect, the police say they
don't have much information about the killer, we are currently trying to
668
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:18,559
don't have much information about the killer, we are currently trying to
669
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,269
don't have much information about the killer, we are currently trying to
determine if it is one suspect
670
00:29:22,269 --> 00:29:22,279
determine if it is one suspect
671
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:26,310
determine if it is one suspect
from a missing persons case or
672
00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:26,320
from a missing persons case or
673
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:41,470
from a missing persons case or
murders, we have several different
674
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:44,320
suspects here Sunday Singles was a dating site
675
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,870
suspects here Sunday Singles was a dating site
in the encore
676
00:29:52,029 --> 00:29:52,039
newspaper and I just met Bob
677
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:56,310
newspaper and I just met Bob
hansen
678
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:59,360
met an adventurous man looking for a woman
679
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,630
met an adventurous man looking for a woman
who is not afraid to put on jeans and walk
680
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:02,640
who is not afraid to put on jeans and walk
681
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:08,600
who is not afraid to put on jeans and walk
hand in hand with me towards new
682
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:10,880
[Music]
683
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,590
[Music]
experiences I talked my family to
684
00:30:14,590 --> 00:30:14,600
experiences I talked my family to
685
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,029
experiences I talked my family to
spend the whole summer in
686
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:17,039
spend the whole summer in
687
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,230
spend the whole summer in
Europe I wanted to
688
00:30:19,230 --> 00:30:19,240
Europe I wanted to
689
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,029
Europe I wanted to
find out if I could find someone I would be
690
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:23,039
find out if I could find someone I would be
691
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,269
find out if I could find someone I would be
really
692
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:25,279
really
693
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:27,789
really
close to I was looking for a
694
00:30:27,789 --> 00:30:27,799
close to I was looking for a
695
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:32,190
close to I was looking for a
cordial relationship intimate
696
00:30:35,389 --> 00:30:35,399
Friendship June 8,
697
00:30:35,399 --> 00:30:39,549
Friendship June 8,
1983 It was June 83 He took me to a
698
00:30:39,549 --> 00:30:39,559
1983 It was June 83 He took me to a
699
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:41,590
1983 It was June 83 He took me to a
bar he was nice
700
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:41,600
bar he was nice
701
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,830
bar he was nice
stuttering I felt
702
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:43,840
stuttering I felt
703
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,389
stuttering I felt
sorry for him He told me he had hard life and that
704
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:48,399
sorry for him He told me he had hard life and that
705
00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:53,230
sorry for him He told me he had hard life and that
when he was younger everyone
706
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:58,549
laughed at him He asked me if I would like to fly with him
707
00:31:01,629 --> 00:31:01,639
I agreed thank god but it was
708
00:31:01,639 --> 00:31:11,990
I agreed thank god but it was
too windy so he took me to his
709
00:31:14,669 --> 00:31:14,679
home when we went
710
00:31:14,679 --> 00:31:18,950
home when we went
in his dog ran away and hid in the
711
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:18,960
in his dog ran away and hid in the
712
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,190
in his dog ran away and hid in the
closet I thought it was very strange that his
713
00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:22,200
closet I thought it was very strange that his
714
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,149
closet I thought it was very strange that his
own dog was
715
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:43,760
very proud of them and bragged
716
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,590
very proud of them and bragged
about
717
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:45,600
about
718
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,909
about
them in fact he was proud of the whole basement
719
00:31:48,909 --> 00:31:48,919
them in fact he was proud of the whole basement
720
00:31:48,919 --> 00:31:50,750
them in fact he was proud of the whole basement
I'd say it was kind of his
721
00:31:50,750 --> 00:31:50,760
I'd say it was kind of his
722
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,789
I'd say it was kind of his
boy
723
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:56,480
den We sat down and it was
724
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,430
den We sat down and it was
intimate
725
00:31:58,430 --> 00:31:58,440
intimate
726
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:06,430
intimate
we cuddled on
727
00:32:10,110 --> 00:32:10,120
the couch We sat on the couch and he
728
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,909
the couch We sat on the couch and he
asked me if I wanted to go out with him
729
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:11,919
asked me if I wanted to go out with him
730
00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:14,669
asked me if I wanted to go out with him
make love on the bearskin rug
731
00:32:14,669 --> 00:32:14,679
make love on the bearskin rug
732
00:32:14,679 --> 00:32:19,629
make love on the bearskin rug
I said
733
00:32:23,230 --> 00:32:23,240
no he looked at
734
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,070
no he looked at
me
735
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:26,080
me
736
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,509
me
and
737
00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:32,760
I didn't know what he meant but I was
738
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,190
I didn't know what he meant but I was
glad I
739
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:40,240
refused as soon as she said no I
740
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,070
refused as soon as she said no I
didn't care it
741
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:42,080
didn't care it
742
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,389
didn't care it
didn't go on I honestly didn't try to
743
00:32:45,389 --> 00:32:45,399
didn't go on I honestly didn't try to
744
00:32:45,399 --> 00:32:49,789
didn't go on I honestly didn't try to
force her she was a nice lady she just didn't want to
745
00:32:49,789 --> 00:32:49,799
force her she was a nice lady she just didn't want to
746
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:52,590
force her she was a nice lady she just didn't want to
it's ok it was
747
00:32:52,590 --> 00:32:52,600
it's ok it was
748
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:59,389
it's ok it was
nice I'm very lucky to be sitting here
749
00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:02,159
because one little thing could have
750
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:03,470
because one little thing could have
751
00:33:06,029 --> 00:33:06,039
pissed him off and he could have decided to
752
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:17,530
pissed him off and he could have decided to
kill me Who
753
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:27,519
knows
754
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:30,710
knows
My name is Greg Baker Greg Baker
755
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:33,669
My name is Greg Baker Greg Baker
756
00:33:36,590 --> 00:33:36,600
Anchorage Police Department I started working on the h case
757
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,269
Anchorage Police Department I started working on the h case
in
758
00:33:38,269 --> 00:33:38,279
in
759
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:44,149
in
1983 June 13,
760
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:47,039
1983 I was on patrol and was training a
761
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:50,549
1983 I was on patrol and was training a
new officer
762
00:33:54,590 --> 00:33:54,600
named it was around tc in the morning We were on the
763
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,950
named it was around tc in the morning We were on the
night
764
00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:55,960
night
765
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,590
night
shift
766
00:33:58,590 --> 00:33:58,600
shift
767
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,870
shift
We got a report from dispatch that a
768
00:34:00,870 --> 00:34:00,880
We got a report from dispatch that a
769
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:08,990
We got a report from dispatch that a
naked white woman was running down Fifth Avenue in
770
00:34:11,629 --> 00:34:11,639
handcuffs, a man gave a ride to a woman on his way to work
771
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,000
handcuffs, a man gave a ride to a woman on his way to work
and dropped her off at a motel
772
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,010
and dropped her off at a motel
773
00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:20,869
and dropped her off at a motel
[Music]
774
00:34:24,030 --> 00:34:24,040
Wood when we got there we didn't know
775
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,829
Wood when we got there we didn't know
what wait But the door rang we found out she
776
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:27,839
what wait But the door rang we found out she
777
00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:32,270
what wait But the door rang we found out she
was there
778
00:34:35,310 --> 00:34:35,320
alone We removed her handcuffs and gave her
779
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,310
alone We removed her handcuffs and gave her
some
780
00:34:42,270 --> 00:34:42,280
clothes she was extremely
781
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,669
clothes she was extremely
agitated it took a while for her to calm down
782
00:34:44,669 --> 00:34:44,679
agitated it took a while for her to calm down
783
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,990
agitated it took a while for her to calm down
enough to be able to give us
784
00:34:46,990 --> 00:34:47,000
enough to be able to give us
785
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,270
enough to be able to give us
any
786
00:34:53,790 --> 00:34:53,800
information she stated her name was Cindy
787
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,630
information she stated her name was Cindy
paulson
788
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:12,880
AD when around a man drove by and
789
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,069
AD when around a man drove by and
stopped in
790
00:35:18,510 --> 00:35:18,520
the parking lot I had fun with him and He offered
791
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,030
the parking lot I had fun with him and He offered
me 200 dollars for oral sex in the car I was
792
00:35:22,030 --> 00:35:22,040
me 200 dollars for oral sex in the car I was
793
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,790
me 200 dollars for oral sex in the car I was
fine with that no
794
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:27,720
problem
795
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:31,190
problem
then he pulled out a gun on N and he put
796
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:31,200
then he pulled out a gun on N and he put
797
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,150
then he pulled out a gun on N and he put
handcuffs on her and told her that if she started screaming for
798
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:34,160
handcuffs on her and told her that if she started screaming for
799
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,670
handcuffs on her and told her that if she started screaming for
help she would make any noises or
800
00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:36,680
help she would make any noises or
801
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,829
help she would make any noises or
try to run away he would shoot her and put her body
802
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:39,839
try to run away he would shoot her and put her body
803
00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:42,870
try to run away he would shoot her and put her body
somewhere
804
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:47,200
I pulled a gun on N and told her
805
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,670
I pulled a gun on N and told her
you are a professional and you are not excited at all
806
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:49,680
you are a professional and you are not excited at all
807
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,390
you are a professional and you are not excited at all
If you do exactly what
808
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:52,400
If you do exactly what
809
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,790
If you do exactly what
I say you will be fine
810
00:35:58,270 --> 00:35:58,280
it won't happen I
811
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,190
it won't happen I
always dealt with them as
812
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:10,240
scared the hell out of me I fought back
813
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,790
scared the hell out of me I fought back
but not much because I knew he would
814
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:12,800
but not much because I knew he would
815
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,190
but not much because I knew he would
816
00:36:19,230 --> 00:36:19,240
do something to me He took me to his house on Old
817
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:25,710
do something to me He took me to his house on Old
Harbor Road in the
818
00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:46,920
[Music]
819
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,670
[Music]
den I told her I'd like it
820
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:49,680
den I told her I'd like it
821
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,829
den I told her I'd like it
a little different And I'd like to have sex with her
822
00:36:52,829 --> 00:36:52,839
a little different And I'd like to have sex with her
823
00:36:52,839 --> 00:37:03,790
a little different And I'd like to have sex with her
on a big bearskin rug he
824
00:37:17,790 --> 00:37:17,800
her around my neck wrapped the
825
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,470
her around my neck wrapped the
chain four times and put I
826
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:27,920
was handcuffed down there for P hours
827
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,670
was handcuffed down there for P hours
I was only thinking about how to get out of there
828
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:29,680
I was only thinking about how to get out of there
829
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:41,470
I was only thinking about how to get out of there
because I don't want to
830
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:44,960
die yet he told her that she was very nice and
831
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,750
die yet he told her that she was very nice and
cooperative and that's why he would take her to my
832
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:47,760
cooperative and that's why he would take her to my
833
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:54,510
cooperative and that's why he would take her to my
cabin in
834
00:37:57,230 --> 00:37:57,240
the woods. I told her the truth
835
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:04,270
the woods. I told her the truth
that we would go out and spend the
836
00:38:07,150 --> 00:38:07,160
weekend together. I told him that all I
837
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,390
weekend together. I told him that all I
wanted to do was go home because they live with my mom and
838
00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:10,400
wanted to do was go home because they live with my mom and
839
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,230
wanted to do was go home because they live with my mom and
that
840
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:16,400
I wouldn't tell anyone.
841
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,950
I wouldn't tell anyone.
842
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:23,839
chat and then
843
00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:26,069
chat and then
back again But I knew he
844
00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:26,079
back again But I knew he
845
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:35,069
back again But I knew he
wasn't coming back
846
00:38:37,230 --> 00:38:37,240
We arrived at the airport and he said he
847
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:39,390
We arrived at the airport and he said he
had to put a seat on the plane so he
848
00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:39,400
had to put a seat on the plane so he
849
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,190
had to put a seat on the plane so he
could
850
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:41,200
could
851
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,030
could
handcuff me I knew I was going to die
852
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:45,040
handcuff me I knew I was going to die
853
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,950
handcuff me I knew I was going to die
the man
854
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:46,960
the man
855
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:53,910
the man
did he had to
856
00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:56,760
kill me i opened the back door and and she was
857
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,710
kill me i opened the back door and and she was
running he ran after me with a gun in his
858
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:04,720
hand and then the man in the van stopped me
859
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:06,670
hand and then the man in the van stopped me
because he saw i was wearing handcuffs and had
860
00:39:06,670 --> 00:39:06,680
because he saw i was wearing handcuffs and had
861
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:19,829
because he saw i was wearing handcuffs and had
no shoes i was
862
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:22,240
hysterical i asked her if she would
863
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,230
hysterical i asked her if she would
come with me to the hospital and had a
864
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:24,240
come with me to the hospital and had a
865
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:28,670
come with me to the hospital and had a
sexual abuse exam
866
00:39:36,510 --> 00:39:36,520
agreed on the way there we drove
867
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,990
agreed on the way there we drove
past maril field airport and she
868
00:39:38,990 --> 00:39:39,000
past maril field airport and she
869
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,109
past maril field airport and she
showed me the
870
00:39:45,150 --> 00:39:45,160
plane so i contacted the airport
871
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:51,030
plane so i contacted the airport
and asked them to give me D his
872
00:39:55,390 --> 00:39:55,400
owner name sounded like Robert
873
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:02,710
owner name sounded like Robert
Hanson
874
00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:05,640
Hen meanwhile he went back to his
875
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,230
Hen meanwhile he went back to his
house he cooperated from the beginning
876
00:40:09,230 --> 00:40:09,240
house he cooperated from the beginning
877
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:18,750
house he cooperated from the beginning
he didn't resist at all and agreed to go with us to the
878
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:21,440
station at first impression he seemed
879
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,950
station at first impression he seemed
like an ordinary
880
00:40:23,950 --> 00:40:23,960
like an ordinary
881
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,589
like an ordinary
guy to me He told me he owned and that
882
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:27,599
guy to me He told me he owned and that
883
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:36,829
guy to me He told me he owned and that
he wasn't in the company of any
884
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:39,920
prostitutes that morning but I knew the truth So
885
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,510
prostitutes that morning but I knew the truth So
I was sure he was
886
00:40:42,510 --> 00:40:42,520
I was sure he was
887
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,430
I was sure he was
lying to me right at the beginning of my police
888
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:45,440
lying to me right at the beginning of my police
889
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,150
lying to me right at the beginning of my police
career I learned that when someone
890
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:48,160
career I learned that when someone
891
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,470
career I learned that when someone
lies to you It's the best thing that can
892
00:40:51,470 --> 00:40:51,480
lies to you It's the best thing that can
893
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,750
lies to you It's the best thing that can
happen to you firstly they don't remember exactly what
894
00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:54,760
happen to you firstly they don't remember exactly what
895
00:40:54,760 --> 00:41:02,790
happen to you firstly they don't remember exactly what
they said and secondly they lie easily
896
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:05,760
rebutted so we went to his house
897
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,550
rebutted so we went to his house
on Old Harbor
898
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:08,560
on Old Harbor
899
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,190
on Old Harbor
Road We went to the basement where there was a
900
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:11,200
Road We went to the basement where there was a
901
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:18,470
Road We went to the basement where there was a
furnished
902
00:41:21,790 --> 00:41:21,800
room there was a couch and a bearskin rug on the floor
903
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,870
room there was a couch and a bearskin rug on the floor
exactly as Cindy
904
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:24,880
exactly as Cindy
905
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:31,230
exactly as Cindy
paulson described
906
00:41:33,910 --> 00:41:33,920
when the police came to me in the basement
907
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,390
when the police came to me in the basement
one officer looked up toward on
908
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:41,599
the ceiling he tried to push in two or three
909
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:45,069
the ceiling he tried to push in two or three
places and narrowly missed where I
910
00:41:45,069 --> 00:41:45,079
places and narrowly missed where I
911
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:48,349
places and narrowly missed where I
had hidden one of the weapons I almost
912
00:41:48,349 --> 00:41:48,359
had hidden one of the weapons I almost
913
00:41:48,359 --> 00:41:55,230
had hidden one of the weapons I almost
had a
914
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:58,160
heart attack at that moment we found no physical
915
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,470
heart attack at that moment we found no physical
evidence but even so, I had the feeling that we should
916
00:42:00,470 --> 00:42:09,870
evidence but even so, I had the feeling that we should
917
00:42:12,829 --> 00:42:12,839
arrest Robert, but then the investigator said that he
918
00:42:12,839 --> 00:42:16,190
arrest Robert, but then the investigator said that he
believed Mr. Hon and apparently the whole thing is
919
00:42:16,190 --> 00:42:16,200
believed Mr. Hon and apparently the whole thing is
920
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,990
believed Mr. Hon and apparently the whole thing is
that Cindy raised his price and he
921
00:42:20,990 --> 00:42:21,000
that Cindy raised his price and he
922
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,150
that Cindy raised his price and he
refused to
923
00:42:32,349 --> 00:42:32,359
No one tried to find out if Hansen was lying
924
00:42:32,359 --> 00:42:37,950
No one tried to find out if Hansen was lying
or not it was a bad
925
00:42:40,750 --> 00:42:40,760
job Cindy she didn't seem to me like a
926
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:46,829
job Cindy she didn't seem to me like a
prostitute who just made up a
927
00:42:50,510 --> 00:42:50,520
story She was honestly afraid that she would die and no one
928
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,950
story She was honestly afraid that she would die and no one
would find out How and where
929
00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:52,960
would find out How and where
930
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:59,630
would find out How and where
she disappeared and her body would never be
931
00:43:02,510 --> 00:43:02,520
found because she was a prostitute from Ulica
932
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,750
found because she was a prostitute from Ulica
and Hansen was blameless entrepreneur the whole thing was
933
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:05,760
and Hansen was blameless entrepreneur the whole thing was
934
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,730
and Hansen was blameless entrepreneur the whole thing was
swept under the
935
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:12,160
[Music]
936
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,030
[Music]
table July
937
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:15,040
table July
938
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,870
table July
1983 then I didn't hear a word about the case for the
939
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:18,880
1983 then I didn't hear a word about the case for the
940
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:25,069
1983 then I didn't hear a word about the case for the
next T weeks I
941
00:43:31,630 --> 00:43:31,640
noticed that the last report
942
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,230
noticed that the last report
said the investigation was
943
00:43:35,230 --> 00:43:35,240
said the investigation was
944
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:37,990
said the investigation was
suspended In other words no
945
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:38,000
suspended In other words no
946
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,069
suspended In other words no
one will deal with this case anymore I was annoyed
947
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:42,079
one will deal with this case anymore I was annoyed
948
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:48,970
one will deal with this case anymore I was annoyed
949
00:43:53,870 --> 00:43:53,880
[Music]
950
00:43:53,880 --> 00:44:00,150
[Music]
it had i have a feeling cindy paulson
951
00:44:17,230 --> 00:44:17,240
package november 22,
952
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:19,750
package november 22,
1971 12 ago
953
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:19,760
1971 12 ago
954
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,710
1971 12 ago
years I first met robert chr hans
955
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:22,720
years I first met robert chr hans
956
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:24,510
years I first met robert chr hans
probably during his first
957
00:44:24,510 --> 00:44:24,520
probably during his first
958
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,430
probably during his first
arrest in alaska when
959
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:27,440
arrest in alaska when
960
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,150
arrest in alaska when
he tried to kidnap a
961
00:44:35,309 --> 00:44:35,319
woman in late 1971 if we go back to miss hova to
962
00:44:35,319 --> 00:44:37,710
woman in late 1971 if we go back to miss hova to
1971 i believe she was not
963
00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:37,720
1971 i believe she was not
964
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,069
1971 i believe she was not
a prostitute she was actually working for a
965
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:40,079
a prostitute she was actually working for a
966
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:41,549
a prostitute she was actually working for a
real estate
967
00:44:41,549 --> 00:44:41,559
real estate
968
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:44,109
real estate
company when i first saw her It
969
00:44:44,109 --> 00:44:44,119
company when i first saw her It
970
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:46,069
company when i first saw her It
was
971
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:46,079
was
972
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:51,589
was
downtown I liked
973
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:54,960
her I wanted to talk to her
974
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,150
her I wanted to talk to her
so I got in my car and
975
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:58,160
so I got in my car and
976
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,170
so I got in my car and
followed her
977
00:45:02,510 --> 00:45:02,520
[Music]
978
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,670
[Music]
home the next day he came back with a gun and
979
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:05,680
home the next day he came back with a gun and
980
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:14,230
home the next day he came back with a gun and
tried her kidnap her
981
00:45:17,069 --> 00:45:17,079
screams her roommates noticed what
982
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:22,150
screams her roommates noticed what
was happening and called the police so Hansen
983
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:22,160
was happening and called the police so Hansen
984
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,549
was happening and called the police so Hansen
ran away In about 30 minutes a police officer
985
00:45:25,549 --> 00:45:25,559
ran away In about 30 minutes a police officer
986
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:28,190
ran away In about 30 minutes a police officer
found a suspicious vehicle they stopped him
987
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:28,200
found a suspicious vehicle they stopped him
988
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:36,349
found a suspicious vehicle they stopped him
and
989
00:45:38,910 --> 00:45:38,920
arrested the driver when they spoke to him he acted
990
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,990
arrested the driver when they spoke to him he acted
like a coward with his head down he
991
00:45:40,990 --> 00:45:41,000
like a coward with his head down he
992
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,309
like a coward with his head down he
denied everything he didn't even look at you
993
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:44,319
denied everything he didn't even look at you
994
00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:47,980
denied everything he didn't even look at you
he was playing to
995
00:45:50,030 --> 00:45:50,040
[Music]
996
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,589
[Music]
innocent I panicked I said to myself
997
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:53,599
innocent I panicked I said to myself
998
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:59,470
innocent I panicked I said to myself
God Bob you're going to get in trouble
999
00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:03,400
I didn't mean to do anything wrong
1000
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,990
I didn't mean to do anything wrong
but it happened all at once
1001
00:46:06,990 --> 00:46:07,000
but it happened all at once
1002
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,630
but it happened all at once
and my
1003
00:46:09,630 --> 00:46:09,640
and my
1004
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,710
and my
god i had the impression that j was planning to
1005
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:12,720
god i had the impression that j was planning to
1006
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,349
god i had the impression that j was planning to
rape me then i decided to compile a
1007
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:15,359
rape me then i decided to compile a
1008
00:46:15,359 --> 00:46:17,829
rape me then i decided to compile a
list with color photographs of possible
1009
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:17,839
list with color photographs of possible
1010
00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:22,870
list with color photographs of possible
sex offenders he was number
1011
00:46:26,589 --> 00:46:26,599
j hen was released from custody while
1012
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:28,270
j hen was released from custody while
awaiting a
1013
00:46:28,270 --> 00:46:28,280
awaiting a
1014
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,990
awaiting a
court date on december 19,
1015
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:32,000
court date on december 19,
1016
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,990
court date on december 19,
1971 while he was out on bail
1017
00:46:34,990 --> 00:46:35,000
1971 while he was out on bail
1018
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,510
1971 while he was out on bail
i received a phone call from one of the
1019
00:46:36,510 --> 00:46:36,520
i received a phone call from one of the
1020
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,510
i received a phone call from one of the
investigators he said he had his victim's name
1021
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:39,520
investigators he said he had his victim's name
1022
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,910
investigators he said he had his victim's name
was Patria
1023
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:47,520
Roberts she said he kidnapped her from the center of
1024
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,940
Roberts she said he kidnapped her from the center of
anor While N was pointing
1025
00:46:49,940 --> 00:46:49,950
anor While N was pointing
1026
00:46:49,950 --> 00:46:53,430
anor While N was pointing
[Music]
1027
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:56,319
with a gun and he took her to the peninsula
1028
00:46:56,319 --> 00:46:58,670
with a gun and he took her to the peninsula
which is about 260 km from
1029
00:46:58,670 --> 00:46:58,680
which is about 260 km from
1030
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:08,190
which is about 260 km from
odor and there he sexually
1031
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:11,200
assaulted her as soon as i had her i didn't know
1032
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,750
assaulted her as soon as i had her i didn't know
what to do with her
1033
00:47:12,750 --> 00:47:12,760
what to do with her
1034
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,829
what to do with her
if she was
1035
00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:30,559
she thought he was
1036
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:33,510
she thought he was
going to kill her but then
1037
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:33,520
going to kill her but then
1038
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,750
going to kill her but then
she convinced him to take her back
1039
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:41,760
to the policeman said to look at our
1040
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,990
to the policeman said to look at our
list and she identified Robert as the
1041
00:47:44,990 --> 00:47:45,000
list and she identified Robert as the
1042
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,790
list and she identified Robert as the
1043
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:50,000
kidnapper arrested in
1044
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,470
kidnapper arrested in
1971 and so we had him at the police
1045
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:52,480
1971 and so we had him at the police
1046
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,710
1971 and so we had him at the police
station
1047
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:54,720
station
1048
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:57,670
station
again according to his claim She was working as a
1049
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:57,680
again according to his claim She was working as a
1050
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:03,870
again according to his claim She was working as a
prostitute and it was all for
1051
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:07,040
money hem there was a certain agreement which
1052
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,190
money hem there was a certain agreement which
was that if he confesses to the assault and armed
1053
00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:10,200
was that if he confesses to the assault and armed
1054
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,549
was that if he confesses to the assault and armed
robbery of the secretary
1055
00:48:17,470 --> 00:48:17,480
he will be cleared of the charges against
1056
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:23,270
he will be cleared of the charges against
him for the kidnapping of the py
1057
00:48:26,349 --> 00:48:26,359
roberts. In my opinion it was huge
1058
00:48:26,359 --> 00:48:29,470
roberts. In my opinion it was huge
ch any jury would have found him
1059
00:48:29,470 --> 00:48:29,480
ch any jury would have found him
1060
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,829
ch any jury would have found him
guilty they would have sent him to prison for 20
1061
00:48:32,829 --> 00:48:32,839
guilty they would have sent him to prison for 20
1062
00:48:32,839 --> 00:48:35,990
guilty they would have sent him to prison for 20
years and if they did a lot of other
1063
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:36,000
years and if they did a lot of other
1064
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,430
years and if they did a lot of other
women would still be
1065
00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:38,440
women would still be
1066
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,829
women would still be
alive March 24, 1972 Hansen was
1067
00:48:42,829 --> 00:48:42,839
alive March 24, 1972 Hansen was
1068
00:48:42,839 --> 00:48:45,230
alive March 24, 1972 Hansen was
sentenced to five years in prison for assault and
1069
00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:45,240
sentenced to five years in prison for assault and
1070
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,670
sentenced to five years in prison for assault and
battery on Susan
1071
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:47,680
battery on Susan
1072
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,789
battery on Susan
his charges in the Patria
1073
00:48:50,789 --> 00:48:50,799
his charges in the Patria
1074
00:48:50,799 --> 00:48:54,589
his charges in the Patria
Roberts case were
1075
00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:59,760
I think he
1076
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,589
I think he
learned his lesson and that from that moment on
1077
00:49:02,589 --> 00:49:02,599
learned his lesson and that from that moment on
1078
00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:07,710
learned his lesson and that from that moment on
he chose easy victims, not pretty
1079
00:49:10,510 --> 00:49:10,520
girls, they were not trustworthy persons in the eyes of society
1080
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,670
girls, they were not trustworthy persons in the eyes of society
but
1081
00:49:12,670 --> 00:49:12,680
but
1082
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:20,309
but
prostitutes and
1083
00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:24,520
dancers, he chose his victims so that he would
1084
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,190
dancers, he chose his victims so that he would
lose or be his person at all
1085
00:49:28,190 --> 00:49:28,200
lose or be his person at all
1086
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,630
lose or be his person at all
deal with and that anyone will
1087
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:37,119
believe it at all prostitutes are women for me that
1088
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:45,069
believe it at all prostitutes are women for me that
I put on a lower level than
1089
00:49:48,430 --> 00:49:48,440
myself I can do things with them that I wouldn't do with a
1090
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:54,510
myself I can do things with them that I wouldn't do with a
normal woman
1091
00:49:57,710 --> 00:49:57,720
Pocahontas
1092
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:06,150
Pocahontas
iowa
1093
00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:10,640
1951 ÅŸ approximately 2 inhabitants It was a nice
1094
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,950
1951 ÅŸ approximately 2 inhabitants It was a nice
place Where to spend my
1095
00:50:18,510 --> 00:50:24,430
childhood nothing ever happened in Pocahontas of
1096
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:27,200
immediate
1097
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:33,109
immediate
h he was my
1098
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:36,319
classmate he didn't say much he got bad
1099
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:39,870
classmate he didn't say much he got bad
grades and often got into trouble
1100
00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:39,880
grades and often got into trouble
1101
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,910
grades and often got into trouble
his parents ran a bakery on main
1102
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:43,920
his parents ran a bakery on main
1103
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,030
his parents ran a bakery on main
street his father baked most by himself It
1104
00:50:48,030 --> 00:50:48,040
street his father baked most by himself It
1105
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,990
street his father baked most by himself It
was a very popular bakery because
1106
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:50,000
was a very popular bakery because
1107
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,109
was a very popular bakery because
before they came to Pocahontas
1108
00:50:52,109 --> 00:50:52,119
before they came to Pocahontas
1109
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:54,430
before they came to Pocahontas
there was nothing like it
1110
00:50:54,430 --> 00:50:54,440
there was nothing like it
1111
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,230
there was nothing like it
1112
00:51:00,670 --> 00:51:00,680
and that's how Robert Hanson learned his
1113
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,069
and that's how Robert Hanson learned his
trade His father was very strict
1114
00:51:03,069 --> 00:51:03,079
trade His father was very strict
1115
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:06,430
trade His father was very strict
old fashioned he used punishments and he
1116
00:51:06,430 --> 00:51:06,440
old fashioned he used punishments and he
1117
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,510
old fashioned he used punishments and he
wasn't very
1118
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:14,240
good with money B had trouble speaking in front of the class and
1119
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:16,230
good with money B had trouble speaking in front of the class and
sometimes
1120
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:16,240
sometimes
1121
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:19,910
sometimes
stuttered He was a shy
1122
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:19,920
stuttered He was a shy
1123
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,750
stuttered He was a shy
boy if you look at his face
1124
00:51:22,750 --> 00:51:22,760
boy if you look at his face
1125
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,750
boy if you look at his face
in detail he had a huge number of
1126
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:27,760
in detail he had a huge number of
1127
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,990
in detail he had a huge number of
pimples and then my speech for god's sake I
1128
00:51:30,990 --> 00:51:31,000
pimples and then my speech for god's sake I
1129
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,430
pimples and then my speech for god's sake I
looked like a Weird and sounded like that too that's
1130
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:35,440
looked like a Weird and sounded like that too that's
1131
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:44,990
looked like a Weird and sounded like that too that's
why he thought about me too girls
1132
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:47,520
weren't very interested after high school he joined the
1133
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,069
weren't very interested after high school he joined the
army his first sexual experience
1134
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:50,079
army his first sexual experience
1135
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:53,829
army his first sexual experience
was with a prostitute in New
1136
00:51:57,230 --> 00:51:57,240
York it was quite a
1137
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:00,910
York it was quite a
disappointment We jumped into bed and
1138
00:52:00,910 --> 00:52:00,920
disappointment We jumped into bed and
1139
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,710
disappointment We jumped into bed and
got out of bed right away and that was
1140
00:52:03,710 --> 00:52:03,720
got out of bed right away and that was
1141
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,829
got out of bed right away and that was
it And that was probably part of the reason
1142
00:52:06,829 --> 00:52:06,839
it And that was probably part of the reason
1143
00:52:06,839 --> 00:52:09,510
it And that was probably part of the reason
why did I think that if
1144
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:09,520
why did I think that if
1145
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:10,390
why did I think that if
someone
1146
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:10,400
someone
1147
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,349
someone
paid for it He should be the one
1148
00:52:14,349 --> 00:52:14,359
paid for it He should be the one
1149
00:52:14,359 --> 00:52:17,750
paid for it He should be the one
driving it when he came back to Pocahontas according to the
1150
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:17,760
driving it when he came back to Pocahontas according to the
1151
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:24,270
driving it when he came back to Pocahontas according to the
police chief he became a
1152
00:52:27,069 --> 00:52:27,079
troublemaker I came home for a
1153
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:29,630
troublemaker I came home for a
classmate's wedding and my mom told me that Bob
1154
00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:29,640
classmate's wedding and my mom told me that Bob
1155
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:38,309
classmate's wedding and my mom told me that Bob
had set the school
1156
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:41,280
bus garage on fire at in that place I experienced so much
1157
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,789
bus garage on fire at in that place I experienced so much
embarrassment and suffering when
1158
00:52:44,789 --> 00:52:44,799
embarrassment and suffering when
1159
00:52:44,799 --> 00:52:48,190
embarrassment and suffering when
they made fun of me there that I started to hate the
1160
00:52:48,190 --> 00:52:48,200
they made fun of me there that I started to hate the
1161
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,430
they made fun of me there that I started to hate the
very word
1162
00:52:50,430 --> 00:52:50,440
very word
1163
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,829
very word
school and that's probably why I set the bus
1164
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:53,839
school and that's probably why I set the bus
1165
00:52:53,839 --> 00:52:57,870
school and that's probably why I set the bus
garage on fire
1166
00:53:01,069 --> 00:53:01,079
I would do anything to he took revenge on that
1167
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:03,990
I would do anything to he took revenge on that
horrible school that I believed
1168
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:04,000
horrible school that I believed
1169
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,750
horrible school that I believed
existed Just to hurt Bob
1170
00:53:08,750 --> 00:53:08,760
existed Just to hurt Bob
1171
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,430
existed Just to hurt Bob
Hanson in October 1961 Robert
1172
00:53:12,430 --> 00:53:12,440
Hanson in October 1961 Robert
1173
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,150
Hanson in October 1961 Robert
Hanson was sentenced to three years for
1174
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:16,160
Hanson was sentenced to three years for
1175
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,950
Hanson was sentenced to three years for
arson his father was very ashamed of it
1176
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:18,960
arson his father was very ashamed of it
1177
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,870
arson his father was very ashamed of it
and soon after that his parents sold the bakery
1178
00:53:21,870 --> 00:53:21,880
and soon after that his parents sold the bakery
1179
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,150
and soon after that his parents sold the bakery
and bought a resort in
1180
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:24,160
and bought a resort in
1181
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,990
and bought a resort in
Minnesota
1182
00:53:26,990 --> 00:53:27,000
Minnesota
1183
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,829
Minnesota
after Hansen served time 20 months he was
1184
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:34,750
after Hansen served time 20 months he was
1185
00:53:37,230 --> 00:53:37,240
released in May 1963 in the spring I got out of
1186
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:40,349
released in May 1963 in the spring I got out of
prison and went to visit my family at the
1187
00:53:40,349 --> 00:53:40,359
prison and went to visit my family at the
1188
00:53:40,359 --> 00:53:45,860
prison and went to visit my family at the
resort where I spent the whole
1189
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:48,319
[Music]
1190
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:52,950
[Music]
summer during this time I met a
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summer during this time I met a
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summer during this time I met a
girl darl
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I fell in love with her and proposed I
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I fell in love with her and proposed I
was lucky enough she said
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Alaska [Music] It was supposed to mean a new beginning
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Alaska [Music] It was supposed to mean a new beginning
It was supposed to make a thick line behind all
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It was supposed to make a thick line behind all
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It was supposed to make a thick line behind all
my life so far
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my life so far
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00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,230
my life so far
pocahontas parents and arson as a little boy
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pocahontas parents and arson as a little boy
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pocahontas parents and arson as a little boy
i have hunted and fished a lot and read a lot about alaska I
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i have hunted and fished a lot and read a lot about alaska I
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00:54:45,789 --> 00:54:45,799
said Darla I would like to
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00:54:45,799 --> 00:54:53,150
said Darla I would like to
go to Alaska for a while I
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1983 I found out that Robert Hanson
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1983 I found out that Robert Hanson
had committed violence against women in the past
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I was sure he was responsible for the attack on
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I was sure he was responsible for the attack on
CY with the dog
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But at the same time I knew about all
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But at the same time I knew about all
the missing
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decided I wasn't going to let it
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decided I wasn't going to let it
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go I pulled together all the available
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go I pulled together all the available
records and contacted the State
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Police
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Police
Alaska State Police has a statewide
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[Music]
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[Music]
the powers of the enkor police only had authority
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the powers of the enkor police only had authority
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the powers of the enkor police only had authority
within the
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within the
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within the
city, therefore
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city, therefore
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city, therefore
there was always a tug-
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of-war between these two organizations, if anyone found out that
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of-war between these two organizations, if anyone found out that
I had given this information to the State Police,
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I had given this information to the State Police,
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I had given this information to the State Police,
I would bear certain consequences, the
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Alaska State Police had a
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Alaska State Police had a
list of about 30
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list of about 30
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list of about 30
to 40 suspects posted on the wall looked at as
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to 40 suspects posted on the wall looked at as
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to 40 suspects posted on the wall looked at as
potentially problematic and Hansen was
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00:56:39,309 --> 00:56:39,319
potentially problematic and Hansen was
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potentially problematic and Hansen was
ranked 12 for them Greg came up to them and
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ranked 12 for them Greg came up to them and
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00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,420
ranked 12 for them Greg came up to them and
said look at
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said look at
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said look at
[Music]
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this this for the fleet meant a major
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this this for the fleet meant a major
giant
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giant
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giant
this was that this was the missing
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this was that this was the missing
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this was that this was the missing
piece of the puzzle this is him This is our
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piece of the puzzle this is him This is our
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00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:03,750
piece of the puzzle this is him This is our
man so now They needed to put him in
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man so now They needed to put him in
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00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,549
man so now They needed to put him in
jail they needed to get him behind bars and off the
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jail they needed to get him behind bars and off the
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jail they needed to get him behind bars and off the
streets because they were afraid he would strike
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again Finally I went out into town again
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looking for I want it to happen
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looking for I want it to happen
again but I was like a moth
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again but I was like a moth
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again but I was like a moth
[Music]
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I was born in West Virginia and
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I was born in West Virginia and
when I was from Jor to the
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when I was from Jor to the
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when I was from Jor to the
Air Force Pa she came from Hawaii she was a raft
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Air Force Pa she came from Hawaii she was a raft
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Air Force Pa she came from Hawaii she was a raft
about a week when she started looking for
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about a week when she started looking for
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about a week when she started looking for
a place to live Robin burová roommate ply
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a place to live Robin burová roommate ply
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a place to live Robin burová roommate ply
Golding I was newly divorced and
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Golding I was newly divorced and
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Golding I was newly divorced and
had a three-room apartment so I
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had a three-room apartment so I
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had a three-room apartment so I
offered her to live with me until she
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offered her to live with me until she
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offered her to live with me until she
got on her own two feet It's one of
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got on her own two feet It's one of
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got on her own two feet It's one of
those cases where you instantly bond with someone
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those cases where you instantly bond with someone
1278
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those cases where you instantly bond with someone
it was amazing person very
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it was amazing person very
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it was amazing person very
funny and wanted to make it in life
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funny and wanted to make it in life
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funny and wanted to make it in life
[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
Paula Worked as a dancer in the
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Paula Worked as a dancer in the
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Paula Worked as a dancer in the
Bush Company it wasn't something she
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Bush Company it wasn't something she
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Bush Company it wasn't something she
was passionate about and always wanted
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00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:38,000
was passionate about and always wanted
1290
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,789
was passionate about and always wanted
but just a stepping stone to something
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else when she danced the first night she could
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else when she danced the first night she could
only take off her T-shirt she was so
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nervous she hadn't even been there for a
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nervous she hadn't even been there for a
week I think she revealed herself only
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week I think she revealed herself only
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week I think she revealed herself only
once and he was there and she
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felt that he was a good man he
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felt that he was a good man he
promised her that he will take some professional [Music] pictures with her in the forest,
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promised her that he will take some professional [Music] pictures with her in the forest,
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promised her that he will take some professional [Music] pictures with her in the forest,
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but the problem was that I mentioned to her
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but the problem was that I mentioned to her
that meat is processed in that shed, she
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that meat is processed in that shed, she
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that meat is processed in that shed, she
was excited about getting a
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was excited about getting a
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was excited about getting a
new opportunity and will leave so much
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new opportunity and will leave so much
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new opportunity and will leave so much
dancing she started
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dancing she started
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dancing she started
screaming you're going to kill me you're going to kill
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screaming you're going to kill me you're going to kill
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screaming you're going to kill me you're going to kill
me she was a beautiful woman a young woman with her
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me she was a beautiful woman a young woman with her
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00:59:49,359 --> 00:59:53,630
me she was a beautiful woman a young woman with her
whole life ahead of
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01:00:02,990 --> 01:00:03,000
running I took a few steps back and
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01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,910
running I took a few steps back and
grabbed my
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01:00:04,910 --> 01:00:04,920
grabbed my
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01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,870
grabbed my
rifle when she didn't come home that night
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01:00:07,870 --> 01:00:07,880
rifle when she didn't come home that night
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01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,589
rifle when she didn't come home that night
I knew something was up he shot
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01:00:10,589 --> 01:00:10,599
I knew something was up he shot
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01:00:10,599 --> 01:00:15,650
I knew something was up he shot
her with a caliber rifle 223
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01:00:17,029 --> 01:00:17,039
[Music]
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01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:23,549
[Music]
Yes right there in
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the woods
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the woods
[Music]
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01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:35,520
Paula Golding 30
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01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,829
Paula Golding 30
years old I think it was September
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01:00:38,829 --> 01:00:38,839
years old I think it was September
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01:00:38,839 --> 01:00:42,710
years old I think it was September
1983 when she came to our house The police to
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01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:42,720
1983 when she came to our house The police to
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01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,109
1983 when she came to our house The police to
inform us that her body was found
1333
01:00:45,109 --> 01:00:45,119
inform us that her body was found
1334
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:50,450
inform us that her body was found
by the river
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01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:53,520
[Music]
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01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,069
[Music]
Nick
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01:00:55,069 --> 01:00:55,079
Nick
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01:00:55,079 --> 01:00:58,270
Nick
I felt so
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01:01:00,589 --> 01:01:00,599
helpless
1340
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:04,430
helpless
That I couldn't help her That
1341
01:01:04,430 --> 01:01:04,440
That I couldn't help her That
1342
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:21,270
That I couldn't help her That
I could somehow
1343
01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:23,920
stop it Hansen's case I started
1344
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,190
stop it Hansen's case I started
looking into it when the state troopers came to our office
1345
01:01:26,190 --> 01:01:26,200
looking into it when the state troopers came to our office
1346
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,990
looking into it when the state troopers came to our office
with a warrant to
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01:01:29,990 --> 01:01:30,000
with a warrant to
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01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,069
with a warrant to
search We knew that when
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01:01:32,069 --> 01:01:32,079
search We knew that when
1350
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,069
search We knew that when
we got to the man's house we would find
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01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:34,079
we got to the man's house we would find
1352
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:39,990
we got to the man's house we would find
a lot of
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01:01:42,750 --> 01:01:42,760
evidence, we wanted to lure him out of the house,
1354
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,190
evidence, we wanted to lure him out of the house,
so we called him to see if he could come
1355
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:45,200
so we called him to see if he could come
1356
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:50,190
so we called him to see if he could come
to the station for questioning and he
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01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:53,440
agreed October 27,
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01:01:53,440 --> 01:02:00,470
agreed October 27,
1983 Mr. Hansen was called in for
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01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:10,640
folders on each of them was the name Robert
1360
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:19,390
folders on each of them was the name Robert
Hanson they had been investigating him for
1361
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:22,640
years on the wall they had a map where they
1362
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,670
years on the wall they had a map where they
marked the way from the center to the prostitutes
1363
01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:25,680
marked the way from the center to the prostitutes
1364
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:34,190
marked the way from the center to the prostitutes
working at his
1365
01:02:37,470 --> 01:02:37,480
house the whole room was prepared So
1366
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,549
house the whole room was prepared So
that se The man who is afraid of being exposed was
1367
01:02:40,549 --> 01:02:40,559
that se The man who is afraid of being exposed was
1368
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:41,950
that se The man who is afraid of being exposed was
even
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01:02:41,950 --> 01:02:41,960
even
1370
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,029
even
more afraid
1371
01:02:44,029 --> 01:02:44,039
more afraid
1372
01:02:44,039 --> 01:02:48,349
more afraid
because The more afraid
1373
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:53,359
he was the more likely he was to make a
1374
01:02:53,359 --> 01:02:55,870
he was the more likely he was to make a
mistake you understand that the
1375
01:02:55,870 --> 01:02:55,880
mistake you understand that the
1376
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,750
mistake you understand that the
tape recorder is on and that our
1377
01:02:57,750 --> 01:02:57,760
tape recorder is on and that our
1378
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:02,990
tape recorder is on and that our
the conversation is being recorded is that so Bob
1379
01:03:05,789 --> 01:03:05,799
yes during the first interrogation they went
1380
01:03:05,799 --> 01:03:08,230
yes during the first interrogation they went
very carefully about it they told him that he knew about his
1381
01:03:08,230 --> 01:03:08,240
very carefully about it they told him that he knew about his
1382
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,470
very carefully about it they told him that he knew about his
childhood about the problems he had about
1383
01:03:11,470 --> 01:03:11,480
childhood about the problems he had about
1384
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,670
childhood about the problems he had about
being in prison and so
1385
01:03:14,670 --> 01:03:14,680
being in prison and so
1386
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,230
being in prison and so
on something terrible happened to this young woman she was
1387
01:03:17,230 --> 01:03:23,269
on something terrible happened to this young woman she was
1388
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:24,960
shot
1389
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,470
shot
and you tell me that I that was me exactly that's right
1390
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:28,480
and you tell me that I that was me exactly that's right
1391
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,990
and you tell me that I that was me exactly that's right
you're wrong I
1392
01:03:30,990 --> 01:03:31,000
you're wrong I
1393
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,190
you're wrong I
didn't shoot anyone and I didn't hurt anyone he
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01:03:34,190 --> 01:03:34,200
didn't shoot anyone and I didn't hurt anyone he
1395
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,390
didn't shoot anyone and I didn't hurt anyone he
started his old song again that
1396
01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:36,400
started his old song again that
1397
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,549
started his old song again that
they have a bad man and he doesn't know what
1398
01:03:38,549 --> 01:03:38,559
they have a bad man and he doesn't know what
1399
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:40,950
they have a bad man and he doesn't know what
we're talking about and that he
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01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:40,960
we're talking about and that he
1401
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:47,710
we're talking about and that he
was involved with prostitutes but for money he denied
1402
01:03:51,470 --> 01:03:51,480
denied denied October 27,
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01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,069
denied denied October 27,
1983 the state police started questioning
1404
01:03:55,069 --> 01:03:55,079
1983 the state police started questioning
1405
01:03:55,079 --> 01:03:58,500
1983 the state police started questioning
about the
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01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:06,559
murders while Hanson was being questioned in
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01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:10,870
murders while Hanson was being questioned in
his house
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01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:13,520
[Music]
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01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,910
[Music]
The search was going on it's been 30 35 years since I
1410
01:04:16,910 --> 01:04:16,920
The search was going on it's been 30 35 years since I
1411
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,589
The search was going on it's been 30 35 years since I
was
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01:04:23,349 --> 01:04:23,359
last here they called Me and they asked if I
1413
01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:25,430
last here they called Me and they asked if I
could arrive
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01:04:25,430 --> 01:04:25,440
could arrive
1415
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,040
could arrive
J could I identify
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01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:28,050
J could I identify
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01:04:28,050 --> 01:04:31,230
J could I identify
[Music]
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01:04:31,230 --> 01:04:31,240
[Music]
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01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,390
[Music]
jewelry I arrived and spoke to Darl and
1420
01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:34,400
jewelry I arrived and spoke to Darl and
1421
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:41,870
jewelry I arrived and spoke to Darl and
their two
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01:04:54,829 --> 01:04:54,839
scared the
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01:04:54,839 --> 01:04:58,109
scared the
girl just stood there with tears running
1424
01:04:58,109 --> 01:04:58,119
girl just stood there with tears running
1425
01:04:58,119 --> 01:05:03,349
girl just stood there with tears running
down her
1426
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:06,640
face at home you have a beautiful wife so why are
1427
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,670
face at home you have a beautiful wife so why are
you roaming the streets looking for those
1428
01:05:08,670 --> 01:05:08,680
you roaming the streets looking for those
1429
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,549
you roaming the streets looking for those
girls do you have a
1430
01:05:16,269 --> 01:05:16,279
problem at home i have no problem at all
1431
01:05:16,279 --> 01:05:20,069
problem at home i have no problem at all
i just wanted oral
1432
01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:20,079
i just wanted oral
1433
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:23,549
i just wanted oral
sex maybe it's old fashioned but this is
1434
01:05:23,549 --> 01:05:23,559
sex maybe it's old fashioned but this is
1435
01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:26,349
sex maybe it's old fashioned but this is
something I would never ask of my wife under any circumstances
1436
01:05:26,349 --> 01:05:35,430
something I would never ask of my wife under any circumstances
1437
01:05:38,269 --> 01:05:38,279
you understand the investigators spent
1438
01:05:38,279 --> 01:05:41,510
you understand the investigators spent
a lot of time in the house but were not very successful in finding a key piece of
1439
01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:41,520
a lot of time in the house but were not very successful in finding a key piece of
1440
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:46,950
a lot of time in the house but were not very successful in finding a key piece of
evidence i
1441
01:05:49,829 --> 01:05:49,839
went through all
1442
01:05:49,839 --> 01:05:53,069
went through all
the drawers looking for any clues
1443
01:05:53,069 --> 01:05:53,079
the drawers looking for any clues
1444
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:58,349
the drawers looking for any clues
especially
1445
01:06:07,349 --> 01:06:07,359
didn't find anything, the basement and the first floor were searched very
1446
01:06:07,359 --> 01:06:09,589
didn't find anything, the basement and the first floor were searched very
thoroughly, the
1447
01:06:09,589 --> 01:06:09,599
thoroughly, the
1448
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:12,190
thoroughly, the
only place that was left
1449
01:06:12,190 --> 01:06:12,200
only place that was left
1450
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,750
only place that was left
was
1451
01:06:13,750 --> 01:06:13,760
was
1452
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:21,029
was
the attic, so I didn't want to do
1453
01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:40,319
confess to nothing at all, he knew
1454
01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:43,710
confess to nothing at all, he knew
that we had nothing against him at all
1455
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:46,640
But that is not what Miss
1456
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,670
But that is not what Miss
Herd or Miss Rob and others claim, all
1457
01:06:50,670 --> 01:06:50,680
Herd or Miss Rob and others claim, all
1458
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,910
Herd or Miss Rob and others claim, all
these women felt that if he did not do
1459
01:06:52,910 --> 01:06:52,920
these women felt that if he did not do
1460
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,710
these women felt that if he did not do
exactly what he said you'd kill them
1461
01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:56,720
exactly what he said you'd kill them
1462
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,309
exactly what he said you'd kill them
look at that i'm not gonna do anything i'm telling
1463
01:06:59,309 --> 01:06:59,319
look at that i'm not gonna do anything i'm telling
1464
01:06:59,319 --> 01:07:02,950
look at that i'm not gonna do anything i'm telling
you the truth you're not telling me the truth bob i
1465
01:07:02,950 --> 01:07:02,960
you the truth you're not telling me the truth bob i
1466
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,390
you the truth you're not telling me the truth bob i
'm saying they were hoping to break him but
1467
01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:06,400
'm saying they were hoping to break him but
1468
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,349
'm saying they were hoping to break him but
they didn't this is damn serious so the
1469
01:07:10,349 --> 01:07:10,359
they didn't this is damn serious so the
1470
01:07:10,359 --> 01:07:13,269
they didn't this is damn serious so the
1471
01:07:16,190 --> 01:07:16,200
lawyer is fine it's
1472
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,269
lawyer is fine it's
1356 we're interrupting the recording of the interrogation mr.
1473
01:07:19,269 --> 01:07:19,279
1356 we're interrupting the recording of the interrogation mr.
1474
01:07:19,279 --> 01:07:22,910
1356 we're interrupting the recording of the interrogation mr.
hanson just asked for a
1475
01:07:22,910 --> 01:07:22,920
hanson just asked for a
1476
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,950
hanson just asked for a
lawyer
1477
01:07:24,950 --> 01:07:24,960
lawyer
1478
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,390
lawyer
mr. flot was very worried so much so that
1479
01:07:27,390 --> 01:07:27,400
mr. flot was very worried so much so that
1480
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,910
mr. flot was very worried so much so that
when Mr. H's interrogation was interrupted, he himself
1481
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:29,920
when Mr. H's interrogation was interrupted, he himself
1482
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:39,069
when Mr. H's interrogation was interrupted, he himself
went to Mr. H's house and participated in
1483
01:07:41,549 --> 01:07:41,559
the search, everyone realized how
1484
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:44,109
the search, everyone realized how
important it was to get that man out of streets
1485
01:07:44,109 --> 01:07:44,119
important it was to get that man out of streets
1486
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:47,990
important it was to get that man out of streets
so they felt under a lot of
1487
01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:51,119
pressure We started a systematic
1488
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:52,910
pressure We started a systematic
search of
1489
01:07:52,910 --> 01:07:52,920
search of
1490
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,789
search of
the ground
1491
01:07:54,789 --> 01:07:54,799
the ground
1492
01:07:54,799 --> 01:07:57,630
the ground
I was working on one side and
1493
01:07:57,630 --> 01:07:57,640
I was working on one side and
1494
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:02,029
I was working on one side and
I went through about 10 or 12 layers of
1495
01:08:02,029 --> 01:08:02,039
I went through about 10 or 12 layers of
1496
01:08:02,039 --> 01:08:10,430
I went through about 10 or 12 layers of
insulation and that's when I came across the
1497
01:08:13,150 --> 01:08:13,160
rifles that's how we found the
1498
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,789
rifles that's how we found the
.223 rifle that linked him to the two women
1499
01:08:15,789 --> 01:08:15,799
.223 rifle that linked him to the two women
1500
01:08:15,799 --> 01:08:20,590
.223 rifle that linked him to the two women
found in shallow
1501
01:08:24,349 --> 01:08:24,359
graves and that was the break in the case
1502
01:08:24,359 --> 01:08:29,189
graves and that was the break in the case
they finally had something concrete in their hands
1503
01:08:31,829 --> 01:08:31,839
we were nearing the end of
1504
01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:40,590
we were nearing the end of
the inspection I was right at the entrance to the
1505
01:08:44,229 --> 01:08:44,239
attic I tore out a part isolation and there he
1506
01:08:44,239 --> 01:08:49,789
attic I tore out a part isolation and there he
found a plastic bag with
1507
01:08:52,590 --> 01:08:52,600
jewelry they asked me to
1508
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,309
jewelry they asked me to
come look at the jewelry
1509
01:08:55,309 --> 01:08:55,319
come look at the jewelry
1510
01:08:55,319 --> 01:09:04,349
come look at the jewelry
there were bracelets ankle chains and
1511
01:09:08,070 --> 01:09:08,080
necklaces We found what we
1512
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,749
necklaces We found what we
wanted we had no doubt about it he
1513
01:09:10,749 --> 01:09:10,759
wanted we had no doubt about it he
1514
01:09:10,759 --> 01:09:15,630
wanted we had no doubt about it he
committed it it
1515
01:09:19,229 --> 01:09:19,239
is difficult to understand the mind of serial
1516
01:09:19,239 --> 01:09:21,070
is difficult to understand the mind of serial
killers and the
1517
01:09:21,070 --> 01:09:21,080
killers and the
1518
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,349
killers and the
pleasure that during their
1519
01:09:24,349 --> 01:09:24,359
pleasure that during their
1520
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:29,269
pleasure that during their
and
1521
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:32,319
again, and that's why they keep those
1522
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:35,269
again, and that's why they keep those
souvenirs so that they can
1523
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:35,279
souvenirs so that they can
1524
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:37,870
souvenirs so that they can
remind them of each specific situation,
1525
01:09:37,870 --> 01:09:37,880
remind them of each specific situation,
1526
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,990
remind them of each specific situation,
the murder and the
1527
01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:40,000
the murder and the
1528
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,110
the murder and the
woman. he
1529
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:43,120
woman. he
1530
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,430
woman. he
walked, looked at his treasures and
1531
01:09:46,430 --> 01:09:50,470
walked, looked at his treasures and
1532
01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:52,719
replayed his experiences in his mind under
1533
01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:55,350
replayed his experiences in his mind under
everything. An ordinary life. He owned a
1534
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:55,360
everything. An ordinary life. He owned a
1535
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,430
everything. An ordinary life. He owned a
bakery near the center. He was family-
1536
01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:57,440
bakery near the center. He was family-
1537
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:00,070
bakery near the center. He was family-
oriented. A man who liked to hunt and fly.
1538
01:10:00,070 --> 01:10:00,080
oriented. A man who liked to hunt and fly.
1539
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,390
oriented. A man who liked to hunt and fly.
However, he also had a darker side. for
1540
01:10:03,390 --> 01:10:05,990
However, he also had a darker side. for
1541
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:10,400
several
1542
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,270
several
years at school everyone was talking about it
1543
01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:13,280
years at school everyone was talking about it
1544
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,270
years at school everyone was talking about it
we couldn't
1545
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:15,280
we couldn't
1546
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,460
we couldn't
believe it it was
1547
01:10:18,460 --> 01:10:18,470
believe it it was
1548
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:22,630
believe it it was
[Music]
1549
01:10:24,990 --> 01:10:25,000
shocking
1550
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,189
shocking
then darla came up in front of the class with
1551
01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:27,199
then darla came up in front of the class with
1552
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:30,110
then darla came up in front of the class with
Kristy what a poor thing she looked like she
1553
01:10:30,110 --> 01:10:30,120
Kristy what a poor thing she looked like she
1554
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:37,310
Kristy what a poor thing she looked like she
would never stop
1555
01:10:40,350 --> 01:10:40,360
crying she was very angry and started
1556
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,510
crying she was very angry and started
screaming at us at the top of her lungs that it's not
1557
01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:43,520
screaming at us at the top of her lungs that it's not
1558
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,910
screaming at us at the top of her lungs that it's not
true that it's all a lie that he didn't do it
1559
01:10:46,910 --> 01:10:46,920
true that it's all a lie that he didn't do it
1560
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,950
true that it's all a lie that he didn't do it
and to stop
1561
01:10:54,830 --> 01:10:54,840
telling everyone she was very upset it
1562
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,310
telling everyone she was very upset it
broke my
1563
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:56,320
broke my
1564
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,390
broke my
heart what if it was your father that
1565
01:10:59,390 --> 01:10:59,400
heart what if it was your father that
1566
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:03,870
heart what if it was your father that
you love how would you
1567
01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:07,040
feel Robert hon was arrested in October
1568
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,110
feel Robert hon was arrested in October
1569
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:12,880
1983 the police felt relief on the one hand
1570
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,030
1983 the police felt relief on the one hand
but on the other they knew they
1571
01:11:16,030 --> 01:11:16,040
but on the other they knew they
1572
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,110
but on the other they knew they
still had a long way to
1573
01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:22,560
go they still had Pou as their only
1574
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,910
go they still had Pou as their only
witness
1575
01:11:24,910 --> 01:11:24,920
witness
1576
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:34,350
witness
and without him confession they didn't have a bulletproof
1577
01:11:37,550 --> 01:11:37,560
case one of the things they found in his house
1578
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:43,910
case one of the things they found in his house
were aerial
1579
01:11:46,950 --> 01:11:46,960
maps with a pencil on them there were
1580
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:52,550
maps with a pencil on them there were
different
1581
01:11:55,870 --> 01:12:01,669
places highlighted around the anor when glen flot saw the map for the first time he
1582
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:04,239
didn't pay too much attention to it one day
1583
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:07,229
didn't pay too much attention to it one day
he was looking at the map again and it occurred to him that the marked
1584
01:12:07,229 --> 01:12:07,239
he was looking at the map again and it occurred to him that the marked
1585
01:12:07,239 --> 01:12:16,030
he was looking at the map again and it occurred to him that the marked
places could to mark the burial place of his
1586
01:12:18,990 --> 01:12:19,000
victims he went to one of the state
1587
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,030
victims he went to one of the state
police who investigated Hensen in
1588
01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:21,040
police who investigated Hensen in
1589
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,950
police who investigated Hensen in
one of the first cases and wanted him to
1590
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:22,960
one of the first cases and wanted him to
1591
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,950
one of the first cases and wanted him to
show him on the map where the first body was found he
1592
01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:25,960
show him on the map where the first body was found he
1593
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,110
show him on the map where the first body was found he
said it was here but you already have it
1594
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:29,120
said it was here but you already have it
1595
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,870
said it was here but you already have it
marked on the map and the fleet told him
1596
01:12:31,870 --> 01:12:31,880
marked on the map and the fleet told him
1597
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:50,149
marked on the map and the fleet told him
that he
1598
01:12:52,590 --> 01:12:52,600
didn't mark that place with the places where the bodies were found
1599
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:59,390
didn't mark that place with the places where the bodies were found
1600
01:13:02,030 --> 01:13:02,040
The man was more productive than we
1601
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:08,790
The man was more productive than we
ever
1602
01:13:11,950 --> 01:13:11,960
thought February 19,
1603
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,629
thought February 19,
1984 months after the arrest of Robert Hens I
1604
01:13:15,629 --> 01:13:15,639
1984 months after the arrest of Robert Hens I
1605
01:13:15,639 --> 01:13:17,910
1984 months after the arrest of Robert Hens I
remember him calling me from prison and
1606
01:13:17,910 --> 01:13:17,920
remember him calling me from prison and
1607
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:22,350
remember him calling me from prison and
asking me to
1608
01:13:27,030 --> 01:13:27,040
visit he walked in looking quite serious as
1609
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,669
visit he walked in looking quite serious as
I recall today he obviously had something on his mind
1610
01:13:29,669 --> 01:13:29,679
I recall today he obviously had something on his mind
1611
01:13:29,679 --> 01:13:32,390
I recall today he obviously had something on his mind
that he wanted to
1612
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:32,400
that he wanted to
1613
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,910
that he wanted to
talk about he went in and the warden left
1614
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:35,920
talk about he went in and the warden left
1615
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,390
talk about he went in and the warden left
and closed the
1616
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:38,400
and closed the
1617
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,270
and closed the
door he said one question to you
1618
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:41,280
door he said one question to you
1619
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,550
door he said one question to you
Pastor And what kind? He asked me
1620
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:44,560
Pastor And what kind? He asked me
1621
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:50,590
Pastor And what kind? He asked me
what sins God
1622
01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:53,760
forgives. I answered him in the Bible, in
1623
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,830
forgives. I answered him in the Bible, in
chapter T of Mark's Gospel, it
1624
01:13:56,830 --> 01:13:56,840
chapter T of Mark's Gospel, it
1625
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,750
chapter T of Mark's Gospel, it
says that God forgives all kinds of sins,
1626
01:14:00,750 --> 01:14:00,760
says that God forgives all kinds of sins,
1627
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,590
says that God forgives all kinds of sins,
but not to the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit.
1628
01:14:04,590 --> 01:14:08,510
but not to the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit.
1629
01:14:10,510 --> 01:14:10,520
is all he
1630
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,110
is all he
wanted to know then he signaled to the guard
1631
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:13,120
wanted to know then he signaled to the guard
1632
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,709
wanted to know then he signaled to the guard
standing at the door that he was ready to
1633
01:14:15,709 --> 01:14:15,719
standing at the door that he was ready to
1634
01:14:15,719 --> 01:14:18,550
standing at the door that he was ready to
leave according to the question he asked me
1635
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:18,560
leave according to the question he asked me
1636
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,229
leave according to the question he asked me
It was clear to me that he knew very well what he was
1637
01:14:21,229 --> 01:14:21,239
It was clear to me that he knew very well what he was
1638
01:14:21,239 --> 01:14:24,669
It was clear to me that he knew very well what he was
doing it's a sin he wasn't blinded
1639
01:14:24,669 --> 01:14:24,679
doing it's a sin he wasn't blinded
1640
01:14:24,679 --> 01:14:28,390
doing it's a sin he wasn't blinded
he knew it was
1641
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:37,280
one of the reasons henson
1642
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,070
one of the reasons henson
decided to confess was his family
1643
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:40,080
decided to confess was his family
1644
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,790
decided to confess was his family
he cared about very much
1645
01:14:57,270 --> 01:14:57,280
ironic they didn't understand what Johnny gave and what they
1646
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,510
ironic they didn't understand what Johnny gave and what they
had to
1647
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:59,520
had to
1648
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:03,830
had to
experience I felt like she
1649
01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:03,840
experience I felt like she
1650
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,229
experience I felt like she
They blamed it, they threw bricks at their windows, they were
1651
01:15:07,229 --> 01:15:07,239
They blamed it, they threw bricks at their windows, they were
1652
01:15:07,239 --> 01:15:12,270
They blamed it, they threw bricks at their windows, they were
angry and I completely understand their anger,
1653
01:15:12,270 --> 01:15:12,280
angry and I completely understand their anger,
1654
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,830
angry and I completely understand their anger,
but they didn't do anything and
1655
01:15:14,830 --> 01:15:14,840
but they didn't do anything and
1656
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,430
but they didn't do anything and
didn't know what Robert was doing, but
1657
01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:17,440
didn't know what Robert was doing, but
1658
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:19,550
didn't know what Robert was doing, but
because everyone blamed them for it
1659
01:15:19,550 --> 01:15:19,560
because everyone blamed them for it
1660
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,189
because everyone blamed them for it
they decided to
1661
01:15:24,669 --> 01:15:24,679
leave
1662
01:15:24,679 --> 01:15:27,110
leave
two innocent children who loved their father
1663
01:15:27,110 --> 01:15:27,120
two innocent children who loved their father
1664
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,110
two innocent children who loved their father
were emotionally devastated by what happened
1665
01:15:30,110 --> 01:15:30,120
were emotionally devastated by what happened
1666
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:34,390
were emotionally devastated by what happened
1667
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:39,120
February 22,
1668
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,950
February 22,
1984 we
1669
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:40,960
1984 we
1670
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,350
1984 we
are recording
1671
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:43,360
are recording
1672
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,270
are recording
Yes this is frank rch sergeant what
1673
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:47,280
Yes this is frank rch sergeant what
1674
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,870
Yes this is frank rch sergeant what
time is it 850 in
1675
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:50,880
time is it 850 in
1676
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,790
time is it 850 in
the morning We all agreed
1677
01:15:53,790 --> 01:15:53,800
the morning We all agreed
1678
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:58,750
the morning We all agreed
that we must keep
1679
01:16:01,910 --> 01:16:01,920
calm my main goal is to
1680
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,830
calm my main goal is to
minimize any harm in any way possible
1681
01:16:04,830 --> 01:16:04,840
minimize any harm in any way possible
1682
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,270
minimize any harm in any way possible
and the impact it could have on
1683
01:16:08,270 --> 01:16:08,280
and the impact it could have on
1684
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,310
and the impact it could have on
my
1685
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:14,000
family no matter what he
1686
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,709
family no matter what he
tells us no matter how terrible we have to
1687
01:16:16,709 --> 01:16:16,719
tells us no matter how terrible we have to
1688
01:16:16,719 --> 01:16:18,149
tells us no matter how terrible we have to
keep
1689
01:16:18,149 --> 01:16:18,159
keep
1690
01:16:18,159 --> 01:16:22,110
keep
calm How many women are you on alš
1691
01:16:22,110 --> 01:16:22,120
calm How many women are you on alš
1692
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,669
calm How many women are you on alš
murdered Äalo Bobe planned to tell us
1693
01:16:25,669 --> 01:16:25,679
murdered Äalo Bobe planned to tell us
1694
01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:28,189
murdered Äalo Bobe planned to tell us
as little as possible to find out what we knew,
1695
01:16:28,189 --> 01:16:28,199
as little as possible to find out what we knew,
1696
01:16:28,199 --> 01:16:30,390
as little as possible to find out what we knew,
but because we knew enough
1697
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:30,400
but because we knew enough
1698
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,030
but because we knew enough
We had a
1699
01:16:32,030 --> 01:16:32,040
We had a
1700
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,990
We had a
head start It started with the body you
1701
01:16:34,990 --> 01:16:35,000
head start It started with the body you
1702
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,030
head start It started with the body you
found near the power line near EK Luty,
1703
01:16:38,030 --> 01:16:38,040
found near the power line near EK Luty,
1704
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,629
found near the power line near EK Luty,
how she was
1705
01:16:39,629 --> 01:16:39,639
how she was
1706
01:16:39,639 --> 01:16:42,910
how she was
murdered with
1707
01:16:45,790 --> 01:16:45,800
a knife, he told us that he intended to leave
1708
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:52,070
a knife, he told us that he intended to leave
all these women
1709
01:16:56,350 --> 01:16:56,360
to go If they did what I wanted I let
1710
01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:00,030
to go If they did what I wanted I let
them go and everything was
1711
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:13,840
stayed He tried to imply to us that it
1712
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,550
stayed He tried to imply to us that it
was all their fault he said don't blame them
1713
01:17:17,550 --> 01:17:19,030
was all their fault he said don't blame them
1714
01:17:21,590 --> 01:17:21,600
they caused it to themselves So forget it This is
1715
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:26,149
they caused it to themselves So forget it This is
absolutely absurd
1716
01:17:29,709 --> 01:17:29,719
she had to fulfill my
1717
01:17:29,719 --> 01:17:34,350
she had to fulfill my
wish If she came and said it would
1718
01:17:34,350 --> 01:17:34,360
wish If she came and said it would
1719
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,350
wish If she came and said it would
cost me more
1720
01:17:36,350 --> 01:17:36,360
cost me more
1721
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:42,669
cost me more
money then she was no longer a decent girl for me a
1722
01:17:42,669 --> 01:17:42,679
money then she was no longer a decent girl for me a
1723
01:17:42,679 --> 01:17:45,430
money then she was no longer a decent girl for me a
decent girl was according to his
1724
01:17:45,430 --> 01:17:45,440
decent girl was according to his
1725
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:47,990
decent girl was according to his
definition one who was interested in him and not
1726
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:48,000
definition one who was interested in him and not
1727
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,510
definition one who was interested in him and not
money and with these women who
1728
01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:51,520
money and with these women who
1729
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:55,229
money and with these women who
showed interest in him he acted in a certain way
1730
01:17:55,229 --> 01:17:55,239
showed interest in him he acted in a certain way
1731
01:17:55,239 --> 01:17:58,510
showed interest in him he acted in a certain way
if they but They were interested in money they were
1732
01:17:58,510 --> 01:17:58,520
if they but They were interested in money they were
1733
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,990
if they but They were interested in money they were
rude girls to him he could do
1734
01:18:00,990 --> 01:18:01,000
rude girls to him he could do
1735
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:07,149
rude girls to him he could do
anything like this He was
1736
01:18:11,669 --> 01:18:11,679
thinking Jen stood there screaming at
1737
01:18:11,679 --> 01:18:14,990
thinking Jen stood there screaming at
me so I pointed the gun at N and
1738
01:18:14,990 --> 01:18:15,000
me so I pointed the gun at N and
1739
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,070
me so I pointed the gun at N and
He squeezed out of
1740
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:20,800
the desert when he described to us all the cases
1741
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:28,310
the desert when he described to us all the cases
that he assumed we knew too
1742
01:18:30,870 --> 01:18:30,880
he said and that was
1743
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,910
he said and that was
all If we had given up he would have continued
1744
01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:33,920
all If we had given up he would have continued
1745
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,110
all If we had given up he would have continued
with his life knowing that he had won that he had
1746
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:37,120
with his life knowing that he had won that he had
1747
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,470
with his life knowing that he had won that he had
1748
01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:43,280
defeated us But we had a map on which
1749
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,950
defeated us But we had a map on which
more than 20 places were marked
1750
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:46,960
more than 20 places were marked
1751
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,189
more than 20 places were marked
on there are 21 stars on your air map
1752
01:18:51,189 --> 01:18:51,199
on there are 21 stars on your air map
1753
01:18:51,199 --> 01:18:54,669
on there are 21 stars on your air map
what makes you believe that there
1754
01:18:54,669 --> 01:18:54,679
what makes you believe that there
1755
01:18:54,679 --> 01:18:57,830
what makes you believe that there
could be 21
1756
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:57,840
could be 21
1757
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:04,390
could be 21
bodies out there you are the only one who knows how many people you have
1758
01:19:06,629 --> 01:19:06,639
murdered i focused on his
1759
01:19:06,639 --> 01:19:10,510
murdered i focused on his
face and noticed his furrowed brows the hair
1760
01:19:10,510 --> 01:19:10,520
face and noticed his furrowed brows the hair
1761
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,110
face and noticed his furrowed brows the hair
on his
1762
01:19:17,590 --> 01:19:17,600
neck his expression changed at that moment
1763
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,830
neck his expression changed at that moment
I no longer saw Bob the baker
1764
01:19:21,830 --> 01:19:21,840
I no longer saw Bob the baker
1765
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:28,669
I no longer saw Bob the baker
but Bob the serial killer
1766
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:43,679
women if you want to cooperate and
1767
01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:46,870
women if you want to cooperate and
end it with that I am ready to charge you
1768
01:19:46,870 --> 01:19:46,880
end it with that I am ready to charge you
1769
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:51,310
end it with that I am ready to charge you
only for the act you are now involved in
1770
01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:54,320
he admitted I'll ask you again How many women have
1771
01:19:54,320 --> 01:20:01,310
he admitted I'll ask you again How many women have
you murdered on alca there
1772
01:20:04,310 --> 01:20:04,320
are a lot of marks on the map I
1773
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,830
are a lot of marks on the map I
'll be honest with you they
1774
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:07,840
'll be honest with you they
1775
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,669
'll be honest with you they
really
1776
01:20:11,669 --> 01:20:11,679
really
1777
01:20:11,679 --> 01:20:15,310
really
represent something really
1778
01:20:15,310 --> 01:20:15,320
represent something really
1779
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,629
represent something really
Yes we pointed to one asterisk after
1780
01:20:18,629 --> 01:20:18,639
Yes we pointed to one asterisk after
1781
01:20:18,639 --> 01:20:21,790
Yes we pointed to one asterisk after
another and he started to tell The stories
1782
01:20:21,790 --> 01:20:21,800
another and he started to tell The stories
1783
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,750
another and he started to tell The stories
that go with each
1784
01:20:23,750 --> 01:20:23,760
that go with each
1785
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,590
that go with each
vase I tried to reach my face with one hand
1786
01:20:28,590 --> 01:20:28,600
vase I tried to reach my face with one hand
1787
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,669
vase I tried to reach my face with one hand
the gun was resting on
1788
01:20:31,669 --> 01:20:31,679
the gun was resting on
1789
01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:33,910
the gun was resting on
the barrel I
1790
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:33,920
the barrel I
1791
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,229
the barrel I
twisted from her
1792
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:36,239
twisted from her
1793
01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:39,510
twisted from her
grip she put her fingers in my
1794
01:20:39,510 --> 01:20:39,520
grip she put her fingers in my
1795
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:46,030
grip she put her fingers in my
eyes and I grabbed the gun and shot
1796
01:20:53,470 --> 01:20:53,480
behavior
1797
01:20:53,480 --> 01:20:57,030
behavior
I carried her down to the tracks and threw it
1798
01:20:57,030 --> 01:20:57,040
I carried her down to the tracks and threw it
1799
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,310
I carried her down to the tracks and threw it
into
1800
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:58,320
into
1801
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:02,149
into
the river this behavior had nothing
1802
01:21:02,149 --> 01:21:02,159
the river this behavior had nothing
1803
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:04,750
the river this behavior had nothing
1804
01:21:08,270 --> 01:21:08,280
to do with humanity there is a landfill and a body is lying right next to it
1805
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:12,590
to do with humanity there is a landfill and a body is lying right next to it
1806
01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:51,520
after his confession to the murders, the fleet went with him
1807
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,510
after his confession to the murders, the fleet went with him
to all these places by helicopter
1808
01:21:54,510 --> 01:21:54,520
to all these places by helicopter
1809
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,830
to all these places by helicopter
to locate them as best as possible
1810
01:21:56,830 --> 01:21:56,840
to locate them as best as possible
1811
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,350
to locate them as best as possible
at that time, but there was
1812
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:59,360
at that time, but there was
1813
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,270
at that time, but there was
still enough
1814
01:22:02,270 --> 01:22:02,280
still enough
1815
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,590
still enough
snow everywhere, he marked the places so that he could return to them
1816
01:22:05,590 --> 01:22:05,600
snow everywhere, he marked the places so that he could return to them
1817
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:10,110
snow everywhere, he marked the places so that he could return to them
in the spring when the snow
1818
01:22:13,950 --> 01:22:17,030
melts, he was a joy without himself It seemed it was
1819
01:22:19,629 --> 01:22:19,639
exciting for him when they landed Hansen was
1820
01:22:19,639 --> 01:22:21,550
exciting for him when they landed Hansen was
running around like a
1821
01:22:21,550 --> 01:22:21,560
running around like a
1822
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,189
running around like a
doe running towards the graves of his victims
1823
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:25,199
doe running towards the graves of his victims
1824
01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:28,590
doe running towards the graves of his victims
and the fleet was not even enough for him he didn't understand how he
1825
01:22:28,590 --> 01:22:35,870
and the fleet was not even enough for him he didn't understand how he
1826
01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:39,920
got through the snow when he got to forests in Alaska,
1827
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:46,189
got through the snow when he got to forests in Alaska,
they released the bodies, they had been lying in the ground for some time. I
1828
01:22:50,189 --> 01:22:50,199
remember the words of one of the
1829
01:22:50,199 --> 01:22:53,830
remember the words of one of the
policemen who described to me how the hunt was
1830
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:53,840
policemen who described to me how the hunt was
1831
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,390
policemen who described to me how the hunt was
overflowing with
1832
01:22:55,390 --> 01:22:55,400
overflowing with
1833
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,669
overflowing with
joy when they approached the places where he
1834
01:22:58,669 --> 01:22:58,679
joy when they approached the places where he
1835
01:22:58,679 --> 01:23:04,830
joy when they approached the places where he
1836
01:23:08,270 --> 01:23:08,280
buried the bodies, it was fun for him. He found
1837
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:17,510
buried the bodies, it was fun for him. He found
it exciting and really enjoyed it
1838
01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:20,960
October 27,
1839
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,390
October 27,
1984 Robert Hon was sentenced in a
1840
01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:24,400
1984 Robert Hon was sentenced in a
1841
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:28,110
1984 Robert Hon was sentenced in a
state court. The
1842
01:23:31,669 --> 01:23:31,679
courtroom was full of
1843
01:23:31,679 --> 01:23:34,350
courtroom was full of
relatives and friends of
1844
01:23:34,350 --> 01:23:34,360
relatives and friends of
1845
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:43,790
relatives and friends of
the girls he
1846
01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:51,600
Monster that extreme anomaly of a human
1847
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,550
Monster that extreme anomaly of a human
being He
1848
01:23:58,669 --> 01:23:58,679
was a Man who moved among us for
1849
01:23:58,679 --> 01:24:00,390
was a Man who moved among us for
17
1850
01:24:00,390 --> 01:24:00,400
17
1851
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,510
17
years selling us donuts cakes and coffee with a
1852
01:24:04,510 --> 01:24:04,520
years selling us donuts cakes and coffee with a
1853
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,470
years selling us donuts cakes and coffee with a
nice
1854
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:06,480
nice
1855
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:09,709
nice
smile his family
1856
01:24:09,709 --> 01:24:09,719
smile his family
1857
01:24:09,719 --> 01:24:12,350
smile his family
supported him hiding under the mask of
1858
01:24:12,350 --> 01:24:12,360
supported him hiding under the mask of
1859
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:13,870
supported him hiding under the mask of
decency
1860
01:24:13,870 --> 01:24:13,880
decency
1861
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,709
decency
this hunter who displayed his
1862
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:16,719
this hunter who displayed his
1863
01:24:16,719 --> 01:24:20,470
this hunter who displayed his
trophies on the wall now has trophies scattered all
1864
01:24:20,470 --> 01:24:20,480
trophies on the wall now has trophies scattered all
1865
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:23,350
trophies on the wall now has trophies scattered all
over all of South Alaska
1866
01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:23,360
over all of South Alaska
1867
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,629
over all of South Alaska
And even if he doesn't want to admit it,
1868
01:24:25,629 --> 01:24:25,639
And even if he doesn't want to admit it,
1869
01:24:25,639 --> 01:24:27,669
And even if he doesn't want to admit it,
how and where these women ended up, it's
1870
01:24:27,669 --> 01:24:27,679
how and where these women ended up, it's
1871
01:24:27,679 --> 01:24:29,870
how and where these women ended up, it's
clear that he
1872
01:24:29,870 --> 01:24:29,880
clear that he
1873
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,430
clear that he
hunted them, first let them
1874
01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:33,440
hunted them, first let them
1875
01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:37,870
hunted them, first let them
run and then he enjoyed hunting them
1876
01:24:37,870 --> 01:24:37,880
run and then he enjoyed hunting them
1877
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:46,030
run and then he enjoyed hunting them
like they were
1878
01:24:49,030 --> 01:24:49,040
game I honestly don't know how I
1879
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,709
game I honestly don't know how I
could
1880
01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:50,719
could
1881
01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:53,229
could
describe it because I
1882
01:24:53,229 --> 01:24:53,239
describe it because I
1883
01:24:53,239 --> 01:24:58,750
describe it because I
was very engrossed in this whole horror case
1884
01:24:58,750 --> 01:24:58,760
was very engrossed in this whole horror case
1885
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,350
was very engrossed in this whole horror case
and spent quite a
1886
01:25:01,350 --> 01:25:01,360
and spent quite a
1887
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:08,669
and spent quite a
long time with him as well as this
1888
01:25:12,030 --> 01:25:12,040
man for the murder of the sherry plague Paul
1889
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,709
man for the murder of the sherry plague Paul
Golding of Lennie ennie and joanna messin ve
1890
01:25:15,709 --> 01:25:15,719
Golding of Lennie ennie and joanna messin ve
1891
01:25:15,719 --> 01:25:18,030
Golding of Lennie ennie and joanna messin ve
and for the kidnapping and rape of cindy paulson
1892
01:25:18,030 --> 01:25:18,040
and for the kidnapping and rape of cindy paulson
1893
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:22,390
and for the kidnapping and rape of cindy paulson
robert hansen was sentenced to 461 years in
1894
01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:22,400
robert hansen was sentenced to 461 years in
1895
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,669
robert hansen was sentenced to 461 years in
prison and life in prison as i was heading for
1896
01:25:25,669 --> 01:25:25,679
prison and life in prison as i was heading for
1897
01:25:25,679 --> 01:25:28,350
prison and life in prison as i was heading for
the elevator trying to get to the front
1898
01:25:28,350 --> 01:25:28,360
the elevator trying to get to the front
1899
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,590
the elevator trying to get to the front
door she ran up to me a girl
1900
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:31,600
door she ran up to me a girl
1901
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,229
door she ran up to me a girl
hugged me crying and
1902
01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:34,239
hugged me crying and
1903
01:25:34,239 --> 01:25:37,590
hugged me crying and
saying thank you thank you
1904
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:37,600
saying thank you thank you
1905
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,350
saying thank you thank you
thank you Turns out she was Cindy
1906
01:25:40,350 --> 01:25:40,360
thank you Turns out she was Cindy
1907
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:41,629
thank you Turns out she was Cindy
Paulson She
1908
01:25:41,629 --> 01:25:41,639
Paulson She
1909
01:25:41,639 --> 01:25:44,669
Paulson She
managed to get off the street
1910
01:25:44,669 --> 01:25:44,679
managed to get off the street
1911
01:25:44,679 --> 01:25:47,350
managed to get off the street
eating and sleeping regularly and looking like a brand
1912
01:25:47,350 --> 01:25:47,360
eating and sleeping regularly and looking like a brand
1913
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,910
eating and sleeping regularly and looking like a brand
new
1914
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[Music]
1915
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[Music]
List We had to wait until April
1916
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:06,719
List We had to wait until April
1917
01:26:06,719 --> 01:26:09,149
List We had to wait until April
so that we could go out into the field and
1918
01:26:09,149 --> 01:26:09,159
so that we could go out into the field and
1919
01:26:09,159 --> 01:26:10,830
so that we could go out into the field and
1920
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:19,360
experience, it is difficult to understand
1921
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,750
experience, it is difficult to understand
what those women went through
1922
01:26:22,750 --> 01:26:22,760
what those women went through
1923
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:29,740
what those women went through
when they were kidnapped by Hansen and finally
1924
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[Music]
1925
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[Music]
murdered I can only imagine what the
1926
01:26:35,390 --> 01:26:35,400
murdered I can only imagine what the
1927
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:40,109
murdered I can only imagine what the
parents of these girls must be going through
1928
01:26:43,950 --> 01:26:43,960
when the human remains are found and
1929
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,189
when the human remains are found and
can be identified it will help
1930
01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:47,199
can be identified it will help
1931
01:26:47,199 --> 01:26:50,149
can be identified it will help
bring some closure to the families but still the
1932
01:26:50,149 --> 01:26:50,159
bring some closure to the families but still the
1933
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:53,350
bring some closure to the families but still the
grief is stronger with the help of Hans's map
1934
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:56,229
grief is stronger with the help of Hans's map
1935
01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:06,159
bodies were found by the Alaska State Police in April and May of 1984 Sometimes I wonder why I didn't fight
1936
01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:09,430
bodies were found by the Alaska State Police in April and May of 1984 Sometimes I wonder why I didn't fight
more I should have gone to the commander and
1937
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:09,440
more I should have gone to the commander and
1938
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:12,229
more I should have gone to the commander and
you know I did it in previous
1939
01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:12,239
you know I did it in previous
1940
01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:14,350
you know I did it in previous
cases but not this time and so I'll
1941
01:27:14,350 --> 01:27:14,360
cases but not this time and so I'll
1942
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:20,350
cases but not this time and so I'll
carry it with me for the rest of my
1943
01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:23,840
life he keeps saying Why We could have
1944
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:25,750
life he keeps saying Why We could have
stopped him sooner if only someone had
1945
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:25,760
stopped him sooner if only someone had
1946
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:30,709
stopped him sooner if only someone had
paid more attention to the missing girls
1947
01:27:32,709 --> 01:27:32,719
the system
1948
01:27:32,719 --> 01:27:35,109
the system
failed which allowed him to
1949
01:27:35,109 --> 01:27:35,119
failed which allowed him to
1950
01:27:35,119 --> 01:27:38,109
failed which allowed him to
exploit women comfortably for a very long
1951
01:27:38,109 --> 01:27:38,119
exploit women comfortably for a very long
1952
01:27:38,119 --> 01:27:42,750
exploit women comfortably for a very long
time Robert Hanson died in prison in 2014 of
1953
01:27:42,750 --> 01:27:42,760
time Robert Hanson died in prison in 2014 of
1954
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,270
time Robert Hanson died in prison in 2014 of
natural causes at the age of 75 the
1955
01:27:46,270 --> 01:27:46,280
natural causes at the age of 75 the
1956
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,550
natural causes at the age of 75 the
other six victims whose murders
1957
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:48,560
other six victims whose murders
1958
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,149
other six victims whose murders
Hensen confessed to have never been found or
1959
01:27:51,149 --> 01:27:51,159
Hensen confessed to have never been found or
1960
01:27:51,159 --> 01:27:54,639
Hensen confessed to have never been found or
identified m
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