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This programme
contains discriminatory language
which some may find offensive
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and scenes which
some viewers may find disturbing.
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So this is page 26
of the Evening Standard
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on Monday, 23rd February, 2009.
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"Dozens of parents have complained
to the BBC that
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"a disabled television presenter
is scaring their children."
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TV AUDIO
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THEY LAUGH
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"One father said he would ban
his daughter from watching
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"the channel because he thought
it would give her nightmares."
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CBeebies Bedtime Story.
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Have you ever
listened to a seashell?
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My name is Cerrie Burnell.
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I'm a mother, writer and actor.
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But to some people, I will always
be remembered as the woman
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on children's television
with one hand.
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Others were like, "Oh, no,
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"yeah, I mean, that arm -
I feel the same.
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"I mean, I don't mind disability,
but I don't want to deal
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"with it at nine o'clock
in the morning," you know.
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"Sorry.
We'll deal with it at ten to two."
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My little arm is, for want
of a better word, you know,
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a deformity or a disfigurement.
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And it's that that is unnerving.
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But my experience isn't new.
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For hundreds of years, disabled
people have been shut out
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of our society.
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We were made to feel we were
superfluous to the world, you know,
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and that's a very hard message.
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They wanted perfect people.
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They didn't want disabled people -
they wanted us to be perfect,
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and all the treatments
were to lead to that.
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At the end of the day, disability
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is largely feared, and you fear
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something that you do not
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know and do not understand.
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I want to explore a hidden story
to discover how the attitudes
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of the past still shape the lives
of people today and find out
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whether we can ever overcome
centuries of injustice and fear.
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Prejudice towards disability
is very rarely spoken of.
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This kind of whisper of, you know,
well, it would have been better
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if you were able-bodied,
or it would have been better
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if you weren't here at all.
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I didn't view myself as being
disabled until I was in my late
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teens, early 20s, because the word
"disability", to me, had always held
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such huge negative connotations.
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I thought disability
meant vulnerability.
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I thought it meant
that you were incapable
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of doing things independently.
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I certainly didn't think
it was sexy or powerful.
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I was born in 1979, without
the lower part of my right arm.
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But until I appeared on children's
TV, I'd never personally
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been confronted by the prejudice
that disabled people
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have faced throughout history.
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How is it possible these attitudes
still exist in the 21st century?
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To understand where they come
from, we have to look
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to the past and to a story
most of us don't know.
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If you look back at our history,
there was this whole idea,
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if you were disabled,
you were disabled in every way -
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you were mentally disabled,
physically disabled,
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morally disabled.
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They were all tied up.
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You were a lower form
of life. The more disabled
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you looked, the more
this was assumed of you.
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Southwell Workhouse
in Nottinghamshire is one of the few
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surviving buildings like this
left in the country.
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It's eerie and it's sort
of haunting.
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There's a kind of merciless
air to it. I can't imagine
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the desperation or the fear.
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These institutions were designed
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to be a last resort
for the non-disabled poor,
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but it was in these places
that our modern attitudes
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to disability were first formed.
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"Idiocy, cripple, epilepsy,
dropsical, weak mind, deaf,
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"an impediment in her speech,
deformed."
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Before the Industrial Revolution,
many disabled people could scrape
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a living or were looked
after by their families.
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But as thousands flocked
to the cities to work
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in the new factories, those unable
to compete in this modern world
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were left behind.
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With nowhere else to go,
the workhouses started filling
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with sick and disabled people.
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"Aaron Pudney - deformed, incapable
of earning his living.
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"Mary Watson - infirm
and being deformed."
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This is a parliamentary report
into workhouses from 1861, listing
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everyone over the age of 16
in England and Wales who'd
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been an inmate of a workhouse
for five years or more.
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And this is upwards of 60 years!
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I mean, one's been
in there 70 years!
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"Albertina Salmons - blind.
Mary Kerridge - blindness.
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"Robert Gett - infirmity..."
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By 1900, the process of
institutionalising disabled people
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had begun.
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"Sophia Ransom - unsound mind."
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"The whitewashed walls afford
so many resting places for dust
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"and the germs of disease.
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"The beds are mostly straw.
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"We saw a stream trickling
from beneath one cot.
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"The room had a strong odour
of ammonia. A baby in a cradle
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"was being tended by a deaf and dumb
woman, and another infant
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"was in the arms of an imbecile."
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I think it's very telling and also
really appalling that both
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disability and poverty are
so interlinked, and so that attitude
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of, you know, if you're poor,
you're no good,
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or if you're disabled,
you're no good.
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And it's a fear of mine that a
shadow of that has carried on,
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really, so that we view poverty
and disability in the same
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light, almost, today.
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If you've always been told
that you are not deemed worthy
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of something, you know, it takes
an awful lot to build up
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the fight and the courage
to say, "Actually, yes, I am."
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By the early years of the 20th
century, well-meaning reformers
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had begun to campaign for a more
humane alternative to the workhouse.
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The Cheshire Archives hold the story
of one woman who was to create
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an institution that would affect
the lives of tens of thousands
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of disabled people for decades.
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Mary Dendy was a social reformer.
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She was part of a large group
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of benefactors within the
Manchester area
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who would look for causes
like poverty or poor education,
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who would then look at how
they could raise money to try
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and improve those.
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Dendy's radical vision was to lift
disabled children out of poverty
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and give them a new life
in a self-contained community
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where they would be shut
away from society.
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It would be known
as the Sandlebridge Colony.
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Years later, it would become
the Mary Dendy Hospital,
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where Claire Moore's parents worked.
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This is actually a
newspaper article.
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It does explain how she came
across the young people
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that would end up living here.
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So, Ms Dendy "obtained
from the Director of Education
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"a complete list
of the known defectives..."
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That's the children, is it? Mm-hm.
"..and visited them."
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"I found little children hidden
away in rooms, only waiting
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"until they should die."
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Gosh, OK, horrifying. So she's
really seeing the impact of poverty.
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So she set up a home
for the permanent care of the
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"feeble-minded"!
And what constitutes
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feeble-minded? That term, once
you look at the records, seems
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to be almost an umbrella term
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for all sorts of disabilities.
Yes.
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There are likely to be children
with intellectual disabilities,
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learning disabilities, but also,
as we can see from some
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of the photographs, there are
definitely children with physical
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disabilities as well. So...
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So the assumption was,
if you were physically disabled,
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you were probably
"feeble-minded" as well?
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That's likely to be the term used,
yeah, because feeble-minded is used
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about 90% of the time
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as he reason why that child
has been admitted. Yes. The idea
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is that these young people will move
into this permanent situation...
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And will be looked after.
..and will be looked after.
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This was something that was seen
as a welcome, almost, solution.
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But there was no way out for them,
either, if it's permanent.
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That's right.
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This is one of the admission books.
This tells us about some
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of the very early children who were
brought in to Sandlebridge homes.
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This is written in Mary Dendy's
own hand. It's amazing.
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So, who's this?
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So this is Sydney Humphries,
and he was born on the 10th
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of November, 1893, and he was
admitted eight years later.
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He's described as "a big-headed
boy with weak limbs." OK.
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It's indicated that he has had
hydrocephalus - water on the brain -
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which will have contributed to that.
His learning difficulty.
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This young lady - this is Alice
Crossley. Alice. She's described
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as a very nervous child.
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She is nearly blind.
Now, you can see from this
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photograph, she has her hands up,
so I can
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see in the photograph there
that she has six fingers
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on each hand.
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I hadn't noticed that.
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So that is carefully noted
as part of her disability.
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That, alongside her visual
impairment... Yes. ..obviously
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would have made her very vulnerable,
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you know, out in the community. Mm.
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The mother applied for blind aid
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and for help so that she wouldn't
have to put her out to beg. Yeah.
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So her mother's obviously...
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Her mother must have been
absolutely desperate.
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It says that she's quite
well and happy.
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"Works in house and knits.
Wants to work in the laundry,
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"but impossible. Eyesight
very bad, seems very stupid."
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I would really like to
think that these young people
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had lives beyond what was written
on this page here,
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because it's a snapshot.
Perhaps it's the only record
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of that young person's life.
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In 1913, the Mental Deficiency Act
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gave authorities sweeping new powers
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to institutionalise people
against their will.
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The effects of this policy
to segregate and confine people
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who didn't fit
are still being felt today.
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At a stroke of a pen, a doctor
can sign your life away
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for the rest of your life.
That was it.
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In 2007, a letter arrived at the
family home of David Gambell.
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It was addressed to his mother,
who had been dead for many years.
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The letter was from a residential
care home where, unknown to David
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and his brother, Kenneth,
or the rest of their family,
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their sister, Jean,
had been living.
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I got these letters.
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I was ready to just rip the thing
up and throw it away, but pencilled
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in the top right-hand corner,
I've seen "Jean Gambell".
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I remember that name as a kid,
you know,
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so I rang the elder brothers
and sisters.
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I said, "Have we got a Jean Gambell,
a sister?"
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And they were like that,
"Yeah, she's your older sister.
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"Oh, she must have passed away
years ago."
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I said, "Well, I've
got a letter here -
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"she's in some care home
in Macclesfield."
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I rang the Macclesfield up.
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I said, "Have you got a girl
there called Jean Gambell?"
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"Oh, yes, yes, yes.
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"A bit puzzled now in the head,
and she's very profoundly deaf.
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"And she's...
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"..she reckons she's got a family.
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"We don't think so.
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"We just put it down to old age
and that, you know."
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"Well," I said,
"I happen to be her brother."
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70 years earlier, Jean Gambell was
taken from her home in Birkenhead
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at the age of 15 and sectioned
under the Mental Deficiency Act.
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She had spent almost her entire life
in institutions, including time
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in the Mary Dendy Hospital.
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When we seen her, I didn't
know what to expect.
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Me and Alan, my brother,
walked in there
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and she...looked up at the two of us
and her eyes sparkled,
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as if it was only yesterday,
and she came running
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over and holding both of us, you
know, and do you know what?
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She knew our names.
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"David and Alan."
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Such an emotional moment.
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And within...well, weeks, she died.
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She was just hanging on to see us,
a family at last, long last.
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What else could be worse than
being locked up for 70 years?
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She was denied all the things
that could have happened.
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She could have been courting,
she could have got married,
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she could have had children -
all that was taken away from her.
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There was a lot of life,
though she never existed it.
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She was older than me, so I didn't
know they'd put her
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into a mental institution.
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I believe she suffered
from meningitis,
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that's why she was put away.
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Even to this day, we don't
know for sure
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what she was put away for.
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I've got all kinds
of letters here, and...
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She was originally sectioned for
being a lunatic, feeble-minded.
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My dad had to sign it, you know.
He wouldn't even know
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what he was signing for, you know?
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He thought, maybe this is only
a couple of months.
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But unknown to him, she was there
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for the rest of her life.
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He wrote letters and letters
to these homes -
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"Is it possible for her release?"
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But no, no, no way.
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From birth to death...
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..that's her whole story there.
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Jean Gambell was one of many
thousands of disabled people
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who were permanently excluded
from society
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under the Mental Deficiency Act.
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Among those who had campaigned
hard to get the bill passed
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was Mary Dendy.
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I actually have an essay
that Mary Dendy wrote.
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"The Experiment at Sandlebridge."
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So it's an experiment?
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This was revolutionary, what Mary
was trying to achieve here.
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Yeah.
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"Fortunately, the feeble-minded
are much more easily made happy
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"than sane persons."
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LAUGHTER
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OK, Mary, if you say so!
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"It is perfectly easy to make the
great majority of the weak-minded
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"happy without ever letting them
see anything of the outside world."
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Mm.
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"Above all, I should like to
emphasise the fact that it is easy
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"to keep the feeble-minded children
if they are never allowed
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"once to indulge animal passions."
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So if they're never allowed
to have sex?
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That is what Mary was explicitly...
Trying to stop.
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..trying to prevent.
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She wanted to stop, in her mind...
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So that's what this whole thing
is about, actually?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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This is around segregation
of men and women
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to stop reproduction through
the generations.
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She set up this beautiful home
with a very kind of noble idea.
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But actually, it's quite horrific.
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That it's... "Let's just stop
them from breeding."
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And then what?
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Eventually we would all
be filtered out?
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Yeah, this was really
about looking to...
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..strengthen the human race.
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Strengthen human stock...
So it's eugenics.
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..by filtering out these
so-called defects.
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You know, this was really quite
a well-supported movement.
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Great figureheads - like Winston
Churchill, for example,
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Aldous Huxley, many other
politicians, writers -
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you know, held this very
same view...
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That the world was better off
without disabled children in it?
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Yeah, and this sort of environment
that Mary is setting up
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is almost a solution
to what they see
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as societal ills at the time.
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That... It's just so shocking.
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It is, it is.
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ARCHIVE: Eugenics seeks to apply
the known laws of heredity
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so as to prevent the
degeneration of the race
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and improve its inborn quality.
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In the 1920s and '30s, scientists
and politicians alike
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made use of Charles Darwin's ideas
about selective breeding.
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Here is a man who, although normal,
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comes from a mentally
defective family.
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Here is his wife,
who is also normal.
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They've had 17 children.
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Seven of them are all
mental defectives.
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Their aim was to use the new
colonies like Sandlebridge
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to segregate disabled people,
keeping them away
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from the strong and healthy.
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Two live at home - a man
and a crippled dwarf girl.
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This film, made by the Eugenics
Society in the 1930s,
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remains shocking and controversial
nearly a century on.
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Once they have been born, defectives
are happier and more useful
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in these institutions than
when at large.
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If carefully trained, they can
be taught simple routine tasks.
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But it would have been better
by far, for them and for the rest
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of the community, if they had
never been born.
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It's so horrific, just that
mentality of...
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.."You were a mistake, you don't
have a place in the world.
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"It would have been better
for everyone if you
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"just didn't exist."
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I mean, it's really obvious to me
that had I been born in this time,
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I would have just been viewed
as a defective,
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I would have been seen
as absolutely worthless.
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It's what Hitler
was championing, really.
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You just take a thin slice
of society away slowly, slowly,
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slowly, so no-one notices.
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And then suddenly you turn
around and you go,
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"Well, where
are the disabled people?"
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Ideas about eugenics grew
in popularity across the world
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during the 1930s, but it was
in Germany that they were taken
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to their most extreme conclusion.
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Between 1933 and 1945, the Nazi
regime carried out the mass
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sterilisation of up to 400,000
disabled people...
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..with all kinds of impairments.
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Over a quarter of a million
more were murdered.
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The discovery of these horrors ended
Britain's public support
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for eugenics, but it didn't
end the authorities
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still trying to control the lives
of disabled people.
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Instead of shutting us away,
the medical world now
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saw our disabled bodies as problems
they needed to fix.
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ARCHIVE: You think you're
on the scrapheap,
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but the future holds something
very different for these lads.
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Efforts to rehabilitate
disabled people had begun
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after the First World War
with wounded servicemen.
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ARCHIVE: They come in on crutches,
and it's Roehampton's job
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to send them out under
their own steam,
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ready to pick up their lives where
they were interrupted.
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But by the 1940s, doctors had turned
their attention to civilians.
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Hello. Hi, what an absolute
pleasure to meet you!
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Ann Macfarlane was born in 1939.
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At a young age, she had developed
a condition called Still's disease,
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which caused her joints
to swell and stiffen.
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They wanted perfect people,
they didn't want disabled people.
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They wanted us to be perfect,
which was, I think,
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why I...experienced the torment
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of trying to be perfect.
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And all the treatments were
to lead to that.
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So it's really the medical idea...
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Yes, the medical... ..that you have
to be able-bodied, that's the goal?.
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Yes, absolutely.
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ARCHIVE: Look at these happy,
healthy children.
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What a contrast to this
little girl...
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..who is walking for the very
first time in her life.
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By the time I was
four years old, I was so ill
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that I went into hospital.
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They could see that my knees
were bending up and I couldn't
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straighten them, my arms were
beginning to bend, my fingers.
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So they decided to break my legs
and put me in plaster.
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This is when you were four?
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Yes. So that was quite
a prolonged affair.
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So, every time you had your legs
broken and reset,
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they would heal and then the same
issues would persist...
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That's right. ..and they would
break them again. Yes.
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For the sake of being made perfect,
Ann spent virtually her entire
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childhood in and out of hospitals.
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Till I was nine, they didn't really
know what to do,
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so they decided that
I needed complete rest.
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So they made what they called
a plaster bed.
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A sort of... A statuette of your
whole body. Oh, God.
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Told me to shut up and throw a
bucket of water over my head
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if I didn't stop screaming because
they had to get the legs
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as straight as they could, to lay
in this plaster bed.
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So you were just trapped?
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Oh, yes, you were strapped down,
you were strapped on to it,
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you couldn't move.
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And then you had a mirror...
You can't quite see the mirror
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in the picture, but there was a
mirror over the bed so you could
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try and turn it to see what
was going on around you.
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And how did you feel being
in this plaster bed?
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Well, at first
it was absolutely terrible,
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because it was so painful
and uncomfortable.
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But as I got used to it,
it was fine.
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And do you get used to it?
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Because I remember having a plaster
cast just on this arm -
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it's one, one limb, you know -
and I absolutely screamed.
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But no-one threw water over me
and no-one told me to shut up.
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Sometimes it's very difficult
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for me to think back
to that childhood.
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The pain, the fear. The fear,
I think, was paramount.
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ARCHIVE: People often say,
"Poor old so-and-so
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"has to go into hospital."
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As if a hospital were the most
dreadful place.
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Look how happy these children are.
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Everything I can ever think of was
all to make me more perfect.
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And look what I've ended up like!
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LAUGHTER
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But we're conditioned right from
the beginning to think
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that we're not right, we're
the problem, we have to change...
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Oh, definitely. ..to fit in.
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Yes, definitely. You're a nuisance,
you're a burden.
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You were seen as nothing, really,
as a disabled person.
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I mean, what good were you?
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You know...
Well, plenty of bloody good,
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but no-one sees that!
Yes, but nobody recognised it. Yes.
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What Ann went through happened
more than 30 years before
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I was even born.
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And yet, when I was growing up,
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doctors did their best to make me
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perfect, too.
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Roehampton was the hospital that had
the prosthetics unit
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I used to go to.
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I remember, you know, walking along
corridors and looking up,
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and just seeing, like, hundreds
and hundreds of prosthetic legs
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just kind of hanging there,
just waiting.
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The people in the white coats,
the people with the power,
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some of them had very firm ideas.
There was never a choice
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as to whether I could have
the prosthetic or not.
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There was a hook that was literally
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like this, kind of covered
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in plastic, and the idea was
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that it would open and close,
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and you'd be able to pick things up.
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I mean, do you think it worked?
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No.
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There was one called
the myoelectric hand
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and this was like, you know,
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cutting-edge technology.
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So, it would open like...
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..and everyone was really
excited about this.
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Not me, everyone else.
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I then went back to just having just
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a regular prosthetic
that was like a doll's hand,
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that didn't do anything. And I...
I said to a doctor, you know,
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"I just don't want it.
I just don't want to wear it."
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And he said, "Well, you know,
the other children
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"might not like it
if you don't wear it,
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"or you might not have any friends."
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Saying that to a six-
or seven-year-old is...
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..is so poisonously ableist,
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and I don't think
it was particular to him,
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that was just the attitude
at the time.
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It was such a quiet victory
when I finally
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didn't have to wear it.
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But I'd never have been allowed
the freedom to choose were it not
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for one man who, in the 1940s,
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began to change our prejudices
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about disabled people.
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If you can get the proper
treatment from the start,
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these people can become, once again,
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in spite of their severe disability,
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useful members of society.
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Ready? Go.
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One of the extraordinary things
about Dr Ludwig Guttmann,
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a Jewish neurologist,
is that he came to Britain
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to escape the Nazi regime
in Germany - the very same regime
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that was determined to wipe out
disabled people.
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He's like a father
to these patients.
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He treats them like
sons and daughters sometimes.
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In 1944, he opened Britain's first
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specialist unit for the treatment of
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spinal injuries at the
Stoke Mandeville Hospital.
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It's no good to...to be
just what was called kind.
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You can kill people with kindness.
481
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,040
You have, sometimes, to be firm.
482
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,320
Paraplegia is not
the end of the way.
483
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,280
It is the beginning of a new life.
484
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,760
Guttmann had a brilliantly
simple idea - to use
485
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,280
competitive sport to give disabled
people the chance to succeed.
486
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,720
We started with simple games first -
487
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,960
darts, playing in the ward,
488
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,520
and we had billiards
and snooker.
489
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,880
HE BLOWS WHISTLE
490
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,880
And then I saw, of course,
491
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,080
how these men react,
492
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,680
not only physically,
but psychologically.
493
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,920
They suddenly felt
494
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,560
or see they can do something.
495
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,520
I've come to North Yorkshire
to meet a woman
496
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,880
who spent nine months
under Dr Guttmann's care.
497
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,640
She adjusted herself
498
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,600
to her disability
in the most marvellous way,
499
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,040
with her determination,
with her courage,
500
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,840
and with a good sense of humour.
501
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,600
In 1958, Lady Susan Masham
502
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,160
was paralysed from the waist down
503
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,240
in a riding accident, when her horse
504
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,280
fell and rolled onto her.
505
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,800
This was me riding
in a point-to-point.
506
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,800
That was before my accident. Yeah.
507
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,480
And yet, two years later,
she competed for Britain
508
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,080
in what would become known as
509
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,520
the first international
510
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,720
Paralympics in Rome.
511
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,960
Oh, this is the opening ceremony,
512
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,400
so all the different countries.
So, there you all are.
513
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,880
I was one of those.
514
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,400
ITALIAN COMMENTARY
515
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,440
Oh, it was a completely...
516
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,720
..pioneering, new adventure, really,
517
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,560
and it was the first.
518
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,520
So, we were all guinea pigs, really.
519
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,520
SHE CHUCKLES
520
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,880
Did you feel a sense of belonging
when you were there? Yes,
521
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,680
I think so. Because this must have
been... Yes, it was a movement. Yes.
522
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,680
Yeah. And it was an amazing
523
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,000
organisation... It looks it.
..bringing
524
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,720
all these different people,
525
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,560
who are paralysed, together.
526
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,000
And whose idea was this?
It was Guttmann.
527
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,600
He was called "Poppa"!
528
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,520
"Poppa Guttmann"!
529
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,520
SHE LAUGHS
530
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,080
ITALIAN COMMENTARY
531
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,440
He was a remarkable man.
532
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,000
He thought that if people
could compete in sport,
533
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,640
they could compete in everyday work.
534
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,160
Psychologically,
that was his ethos? Yes.
535
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800
And at the beginning, people
used to come round and say,
536
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,160
"Oh, what are you going to do
with all these cripples?"
537
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,600
And he said,
"Oh, they'll get back to work.
538
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,400
"They're going to be taxpayers."
539
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,960
He was determined that his patients
540
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,640
would achieve something.
541
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,400
The men and women who competed
in Rome not only became
542
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,480
international heroes...
543
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,760
That's me. Ah!
544
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,200
..but showed the world
we are all more than our disability.
545
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,960
COMMENTARY:
Prima, Lady Masham, Gran Bretagna.
546
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,720
There you are! That's a gold medal.
547
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,520
So, you got gold? I got gold, yeah.
That's amazing!
548
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,200
I got a gold, a silver and a bronze.
549
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,240
We went to dinner with a friend,
550
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,000
at a restaurant by
the Trevi Fountain,
551
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,720
and I lost my gold medal.
552
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,320
You lost it?! I lost it.
553
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,440
They said I'd thrown it
in the Trevi Fountain.
554
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,640
LAUGHTER
I hadn't. I think it dropped out of
555
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,440
my wheelchair.
Did they give you another one?
556
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,040
No, I tried. Oh! No!
But somewhere, somewhere in Rome,
557
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,720
there is a gold medal. Somewhere in
Rome. I left my heart in Rome. Oh!
558
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,080
Yeah.
559
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,080
SUSAN CHUCKLES
560
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,800
Susan returned from Rome, having won
561
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,240
bronze, silver and gold medals,
562
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,000
and went on to compete in the '64
563
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,160
and '68 Paralympics.
564
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,160
You know, Guttmann was very keen
565
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,560
for us to pass on his philosophy.
566
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,840
He wanted us to be his ambassadors.
567
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,640
Do you think that this inspired you
568
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,680
to then get involved with things
in the early stages?
569
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,360
I think it did, and it opened my
eyes to the need for
570
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,640
the general public to understand
disability better. Mm.
571
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,960
Today, there are more than 5,000
572
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,560
para athletes globally,
573
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,520
who compete in Games
throughout the world,
574
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,120
reaching an audience of billions.
575
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,400
In the early days, we were very much
576
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,200
amateurs, in a way.
577
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,080
And now the Games have become
578
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,240
much more professional.
579
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,360
But maybe they're not quite so fun.
580
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,000
SHE LAUGHS
581
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,400
It's remarkable that one man
582
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,800
influenced the public's attitude
583
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,240
toward disability so profoundly.
584
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,560
By seeing what was possible,
if you look beyond the disability,
585
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,960
he proved to all of Britain
that every individual had worth.
586
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,520
That's an extraordinary
legacy to leave behind.
587
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,360
But for most disabled
people across Britain,
588
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,880
Guttmann's sports movement would
take years to change attitudes.
589
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,000
Thousands of people, without family
to care for them or the financial
590
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,000
means to live at home, remained
hidden away in institutions.
591
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,440
Do you feel very shut off in here?
592
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:04,000
I do, rather. Mm.
It can't be helped. Mm.
593
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,640
It took one man, who was living in
594
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,800
a residential home in Hampshire,
595
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,200
to change the rules.
596
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,120
When did you start to get to know
Paul Hunt? How did that happen?
597
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,960
I was curious about this man,
598
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,080
because he was so highly thought of
by the residents.
599
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,440
Judy Hunt met Paul
while working at Le Court,
600
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,200
the home where he lived.
601
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:34,720
Quite often, I was helping out
at a table which Paul was on,
602
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:37,640
so I got to sort of know him a bit,
603
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,920
I mean, and hear, hear him talking,
604
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,880
and he was quite a witty chap,
you know?
605
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,760
He was a reader, writer.
606
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,280
Right from the start,
it was looking at the situation
607
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,640
of disabled people
to liberate themselves.
608
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,640
I've strong memories of hours
spent in the wheelchair store.
609
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,840
Ha! What were you doing in
the wheelchair store?! There was
610
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,760
a shortage of spaces to just
sit and have quiet conversation,
611
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,120
because people shared bedrooms. Mm.
612
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,000
I think I was in awe of him,
actually.
613
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,400
In 1970, Paul and Judy decided
to marry and move to London,
614
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,280
where Paul soon realised
the prejudice he had lived with
615
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,400
in institutions existed in
the outside world as well.
616
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,120
Right, on this page is
the letter by Paul Hunt.
617
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,240
Two years after arriving in London,
he wrote a letter to a national
618
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,480
newspaper calling for disabled
people to come together
619
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,800
and end their enforced segregation.
620
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,440
"Every sentence in her article
could apply with equal force
621
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,920
"to the severely physically
handicapped, many of whom
622
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,360
"also find themselves in isolated
and unsuitable institutions,
623
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,880
"where their views are ignored
and they are subject to
624
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,040
"authoritarian and often
cruel regimes. I am proposing
625
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,760
"the formation of a consumer group
to put forward, nationally,
626
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,760
"the views of actual
and potential residents
627
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,840
"of these successors
of the workhouse.
628
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,120
"I should be glad
to hear from anyone
629
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,240
"who is interested to join
or support this project.
630
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,120
"Yours faithfully, Paul Hunt."
631
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,720
That's just amazing.
632
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,480
I don't think anyone
would have put into words...
633
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,160
..so sublimely and so beautifully
634
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:35,000
the struggle
and the call to arms, really. Yeah.
635
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,640
Paul's letter galvanised people
across the country.
636
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,440
No government, present or future,
will give us what we demand
637
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,560
unless we shame them into action.
638
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,840
And as disabled people began to
voice their outrage, they drew up
639
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,400
a blueprint for their future.
640
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040
He says, "In our view, it is society
641
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,920
"which disables
physically-impaired people.
642
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,000
"Disability is something imposed
on top of our impairments,
643
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,640
"by the way we are
unnecessarily isolated
644
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,880
"and excluded from full
participation in society." Mm-hm.
645
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,760
"Disabled people are therefore
an oppressed group in society."
646
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,400
And what they'd been struggling with
for quite a long time
647
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,680
was saying, "it's not us
648
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,920
"who should be accepting..." Mm.
649
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,560
"..our disability. We shouldn't
be accepting our disability.
650
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,560
"We have to eliminate our
disability..." Mm. "..by changing
651
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,640
"the environment." And it just
opened people's eyes enormously.
652
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,960
It's the first time that anyone
has said, "It's not you,
653
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,800
"you're not the disability,
you're not the problem.
654
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,240
"It's the world..." Yes.
"..and the way that you're viewed."
655
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:54,480
That's right. And if it's the world,
you can change that. Mm-hm.
656
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,640
So, when I was around 20, er,
657
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,840
when I was at drama school,
658
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,200
they suddenly, halfway through
my second year, decided
659
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,480
that I was a disabled actor,
660
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,040
instead of being an actor.
661
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:18,320
Why? I don't know, but all of a
sudden, there was this big push
662
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,960
to make me wear
a prosthetic hand on stage,
663
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,680
and the idea was that
664
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,760
I would go forth thither
665
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,680
into the world and wear
a prosthetic
666
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,000
and become Kate Winslet
or something.
667
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,720
I was definitely there
for the Kate Winslet part,
668
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,800
definitely wasn't there
for the prosthetic part.
669
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,240
And that's when I really started
feeling some deep shit
670
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:45,000
in my self-esteem because,
again, it was like this... We...
671
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,440
You know, you're not
good enough as you are.
672
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,360
And so this is when I
started learning about
673
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,160
the fact that there was a social
model of disability and that,
674
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,640
you know, you the individual
shouldn't have to conform to
675
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,480
society. Society should bloody
well change for you.
676
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,400
THEY CHANT
677
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,880
It was the time of free love
and the whole idea of
678
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,800
challenging the status quo.
679
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,800
You know, I was moved by seeing
680
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,720
all these demonstrations.
681
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,880
I suppose there was a bit of a
rebel in me. I think that was
682
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,680
quite liberating, you know?
683
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,960
At the age of 18, John Evans
684
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,960
embraced the anti-war
and civil rights movements
685
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,920
that were sweeping the world.
686
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,200
But in 1975,
687
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,800
he had an accident that left him
paralysed from the neck down.
688
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,360
When I broke my neck,
I went into this institution.
689
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,360
I had that feeling, a very definite
feeling that I'm not going to spend
690
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,920
the rest of my life here,
691
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,520
with 49, 50 other disabled people
692
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,920
just because I'm disabled.
693
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,960
In 1978, he moved into Le Court,
694
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,400
the same residential home
where Paul Hunt had once lived.
695
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,520
ARCHIVE: Le Court is a home in the
696
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,400
true sense of the word,
697
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,600
exactly as you and I mean home,
698
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,080
not an institution.
699
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,680
Even though Le Court was
a lot more progressive,
700
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,880
there was no integration, no
inclusion in the local communities,
701
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,400
and I think that's not -
to me, anyway - part of what life
702
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,760
should be.
Unfortunately, I wasn't rich,
703
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,800
which would have been another way
704
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,360
I could have paid for
people to work for me.
705
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,960
But at 25, I had no option.
I had to go there, you know,
706
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,840
I didn't have a choice.
707
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,760
John was determined his life
wouldn't be spent locked away.
708
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,120
Influenced by the emerging
disability movement,
709
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,120
he set about finding
an alternative way of living,
710
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,760
outside of an institution
or residential home.
711
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,960
Project 81 was like a dream,
712
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,480
or a vision,
about living in the community.
713
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,440
I was pioneering,
I suppose, for my freedom
714
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,440
and, within that, it was the
freedom for other disabled people.
715
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,160
So, you know, there was a real buzz
about something that could happen.
716
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,320
Then you got a sense of a movement
growing, because that was
717
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,320
what was going to liberate us.
718
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,920
The main thing was
trying to get the idea that
719
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,720
we just wanted to live in our
own homes, in ordinary streets,
720
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:42,560
with ordinary people.
721
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,880
And also, we wanted to ensure
that we were involved in
722
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,000
all decisions that were made
723
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,960
about our lives
724
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,960
because, until then,
725
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,800
all decisions were made
by social-care
726
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,520
or health-care professionals.
727
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,880
Up and down the country,
people called on the authorities
728
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,800
to give them the money that would
enable them to live independently.
729
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,160
In 1983, John was one of
the very first to move from
730
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,800
a residential home
into a place of his own.
731
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,760
It's just indescribable, I think,
the feeling after
732
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,720
living in a home with
disabled people for almost
733
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,360
four-and-a-half years, then
suddenly I've got my own place.
734
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,080
It's, er...
Yeah, it was astonishing.
735
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,680
For days, I couldn't sleep
because I was just
736
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,080
buzzing all over
and just so excited.
737
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,040
Don't pull my arm off again,
will you?
738
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,920
No, right, I won't.
Handle me gently.
739
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,040
And now, you know, 45 years later,
740
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,760
you know, I look back and think,
741
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,640
my goodness, in some respects,
becoming totally paralysed was
742
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,200
one of the best things that happened
to me, cos it enabled me to be
743
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,280
a central figure in developing
the disability movement.
744
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,840
Our strength is that we are united
745
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,800
and we know what the problem is.
746
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,800
And by coming together, we are
going to change that.
747
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,280
CHANTING
748
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,040
I would have been four
when John and others
749
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,520
were winning their freedom.
750
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,440
What do we want? Rights!
751
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,120
When do we want them? Now!
752
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,560
But the world they found
outside of the institutions
753
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,520
was anything but welcoming.
754
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,680
CROWD CHANTS: We want what you got!
We want what you got!
755
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,440
All we want is to be able to get on
the bus, the same as every other
756
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,800
member of the public.
If you want to get on the bus,
757
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,760
get on the bus... How?! How?! How?!
758
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,000
We were angry. We wanted
to get on public transport,
759
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,200
and we wanted to be free.
760
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,960
So, we decided that we would become
freedom fighters,
761
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,200
and that's when we started
breaking the law.
762
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,720
We are here. We are not going to
go away. In fact, if anything,
763
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:56,480
we are going to gain in strength.
764
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,440
Nearly 40 years ago,
Baroness Jane Campbell
765
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,200
and Alia Hassan took to the streets,
fighting for their rights.
766
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,520
It was a moment that we suddenly
felt proud of who we were. Yeah.
767
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,400
It was a bit like Black Power.
Yes. We were, then,
768
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,440
proud to be disabled people.
769
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,640
# We demand the right
to transport... #
770
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,000
If it's public transport,
it ought to be public,
771
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,760
and we're members of the public too.
772
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,640
The interesting thing is, is I went
from feeling totally powerless...
773
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,200
Yes. ..to bringing London
to a standstill, and that is
774
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,880
actually very powerful. Amazing!
775
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,080
NEWS ARCHIVE: In Whitehall,
direct action by the disabled,
776
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,880
action that stopped the traffic.
777
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,360
Their demand - equal civil rights.
778
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,400
And it's like, actually,
we're not powerless. No.
779
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,120
We can be visible. We can be heard.
780
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,760
NEWS ARCHIVE: The protesters here
say demonstrations like this today
781
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,760
are designed to force the Government
to take notice of the views
782
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,200
of people with disabilities.
783
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,440
I want to be able
to go nightclubbing.
784
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,960
I want to go to restaurants.
I want go to the cinema,
785
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,640
without being a fire risk.
786
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,360
I'm afraid you're under arrest
for obstructing the highway,
787
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,560
because you're refusing to get
out of the way of these vehicles.
788
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,040
We just didn't have anything.
No buses.
789
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,440
The trains, you sat
in the guard's van,
790
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,880
with the pigeons and the post, in
the freezing cold.
791
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,200
There was nothing.
792
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,800
And the worst thing is,
793
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,600
"We don't have people like you
in here." Oh, yes,
794
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,920
I've been thrown out, yeah.
That was the worst. It's like...
795
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:28,280
..no blacks, no dogs, no dis...
Yeah. ..no disabled people.
796
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,080
Live from the Television Centre
in London,
797
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,240
a host of distinguished guests
are arriving for a night of fun
798
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,520
and surprises.
Children in Need, 1990.
799
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,880
I'm out here demonstrating because
no-one ever asks disabled people
800
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,720
what they think of events like
Children in Need and Telethon.
801
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:47,280
But for Jane and Alia,
802
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,240
it wasn't enough to just fight
the physical barriers.
803
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:52,760
They wanted to challenge the most
804
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,240
deep-seated belief
805
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:56,120
that disabled people
806
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,600
are people to pity.
807
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,560
We hate charity, don't we? Yeah, we
do. And that's very controversial.
808
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:10,560
They have the money, by portraying
us as poor, pathetic creatures
809
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,800
that need money... And that, for us,
810
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,400
is another indication that
we haven't got a voice.
811
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,680
We have a very important saying
in the disability world,
812
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,120
it's called
Nothing About Us Without Us.
813
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,840
And that means if you're not
employing at least half of us
814
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,880
to work in your charity, then
you are not speaking on our behalf.
815
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,200
Until able-bodied people
take responsibility
816
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,760
for stopping the continuation
of our oppression,
817
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,560
we will always be fighting.
818
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,000
THEY CHANT
819
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,560
..28 hours, Michael Aspel!
820
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,600
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
821
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,120
Tell me about the Telethons.
How did that come about?
822
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,240
We heard that there was going to be
823
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:04,640
a big charity fundraiser
called Telethon.
824
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,920
Yes. And it was big. They were going
to get all the big celebrities
825
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:15,000
down there. And what was the aim?
To raise money for the charities...
826
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,200
Right. ..so the charities could
help us poor disabled people.
827
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,880
And we decided
we would go down there
828
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,600
and picket it.
And we called the demo
829
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,960
"Block Telethon"
830
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,960
and "Piss on Pity".
Yeah. Ha! Piss on Pity.
831
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,560
CHEERING
832
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,440
All those people in the building
opposite are begging on our behalf.
833
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,360
Let's roll the scoreboard, see
the running total, let's see it!
834
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,200
We want to tell you -
you don't have our permission!
835
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:48,520
We went down there and we literally
836
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,200
blocked the entire studios.
837
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,280
You can't afford to ignore
838
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,920
disabled people any longer!
839
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,840
We don't want your patronage.
What we want is your support for
840
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,640
our equal rights as disabled people,
841
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,840
campaigning against segregation!
842
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,160
And there's this wonderful
843
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,200
shot of Chris Tarrant.
844
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,560
He was absolutely... He was livid.
..enraged, wasn't he? Yeah, he was.
845
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,480
It's an amazing event. People
come from all over the country,
846
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,760
they work for 27 hours nonstop,
and it raises huge
847
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,720
amounts of money.
I mean, are you saying that
848
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:20,920
everybody disabled in this country
doesn't want to know about
849
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,840
the money that Telethon's raised?
Because I don't believe that.
850
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,520
CHANTING: Rights, not charity!
Rights, not charity!
851
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,400
In 1992, ITV aired its last Telethon
852
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,920
on behalf of disabled people.
853
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,120
The Telethon protests
854
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,680
had made their mark.
855
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,920
Now you have the choice about
the way that you give.
856
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,840
You can choose to continue
to portray us as helpless,
857
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,200
deserving crips,
858
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,480
or you can see us as people
involved in a civil rights struggle.
859
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,240
BELL TOLLS
860
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:58,400
In 1995, after 15 years of direct
action by disabled people,
861
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,800
the Government took the first step
towards giving us equal rights,
862
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,440
with the passing of the
Disability Discrimination Act.
863
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,680
My bill is concerned with
outlawing discrimination
864
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,080
against disabled people.
865
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,160
If you read this bill,
it is not a PR exercise.
866
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,520
If that sort of a bill
867
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,920
had gone through
for black people or women,
868
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,880
there would be utter outrage,
utter outrage.
869
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,080
But many people
thought the legislation
870
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,800
fell short of true equality.
871
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,040
We know that we deserve much better.
872
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,440
We know that we deserve
873
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,840
proper human civil rights.
874
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,360
THEY CHANT: Tell me, tell me,
what you gonna do?
875
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,800
The fight continued until,
876
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,600
eventually, in 2010,
877
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,960
the Government passed
878
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,280
the Equality Act, which went further
879
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,120
than ever before
to protect our rights.
880
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,680
We did it. Ha! We did really good.
We did really well.
881
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,520
We were kind of
20th-century suffragettes.
882
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,120
We were becoming
liberated disabled women,
883
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:09,000
and that is, that is...
So exciting. ..incredibly
884
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,720
intoxicating. Yes!
885
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:17,040
We've fought for these changes
that have happened to enable us
886
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:22,360
to live in the... Live the life we
want, not just surviving.
887
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,160
But a lot of young people,
888
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,160
they don't know their history,
you know?
889
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,680
Those of us who did know how,
890
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,880
you know, how hard
that struggle was at times
891
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,400
just to make things happen.
892
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,840
TV CHATTER
893
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,160
The law has given us rights...
894
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,560
There we go!
895
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,960
..but they don't necessarily change
896
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,240
the way society views us.
897
00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:00,320
Those attitudes won't change
with the passing of a bill.
898
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,600
I don't think anybody that's
grown up in a segregated...
899
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,680
..situation ever gets over it.
900
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,440
I don't think you can,
because you...
901
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,120
It's the norm.
902
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,440
It's what's normal to you
when you're a child.
903
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,880
And then everything after that
is a struggle
904
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,560
to try and create something better.
905
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,240
Micheline Mason was born with
a condition commonly known as
906
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:29,400
brittle bones disease.
907
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,400
Growing up, her impairment meant
908
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,000
she was denied a place
at a mainstream school.
909
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,720
I used to dream of going to school.
910
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:42,480
The reason I wasn't there
was nothing to do with...
911
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,840
..anything that was about my needs.
912
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,120
And I knew that very early
and felt very angry about it.
913
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,400
When her daughter Lucy was born
914
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,800
with the same condition in 1984,
915
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,360
Micheline was determined her future
916
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,400
was going to be very different.
917
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,360
My overriding thought I had
918
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,400
when Lucy was born
919
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,160
was that she was entitled
to everything in the world
920
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,680
that everybody else is,
921
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,800
just by being alive in this world.
922
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,800
I think my dream...
923
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:21,320
was that disabled people would
educate the able-bodied world
924
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,120
in education about how
925
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,400
we could live together,
926
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,040
and that the children
would have a big role in that,
927
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,280
because children are much better
at inclusion than adults.
928
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,520
But the fight Micheline had in front
of her was to get Lucy into
929
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,680
a mainstream school, at a time when
930
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,320
tens of thousands of disabled
931
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,480
children continued to be segregated.
932
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:48,040
ARCHIVE: This is what's called
a special school.
933
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,960
There are no
non-disabled children here.
934
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,400
The advocates of special
schools too easily claim
935
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,440
that disabled children can prosper
936
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,760
only in this environment.
937
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,000
THEY CHANT: We'd rather be together!
938
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,560
I've always been very aware that
if my mum hadn't
939
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,800
done the work that she did,
940
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,640
my life just would have looked
so different. I probably wouldn't
941
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,160
have gone to a mainstream school.
942
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,960
THEY CHANT: We want education...
943
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,440
REPORTER: The gates of
Downing Street under siege.
944
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,240
Campaign groups for the disabled
demanding that all children
945
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:21,120
should be taught in the same
schools, whatever their physical
946
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,720
or mental impairment. With them,
947
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:27,640
14-year-old Lucy, who attends
a mainstream comprehensive.
948
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,920
Everybody, disabled young people
decided that they're fed up of being
949
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,080
separated in different
school systems. Because there is
950
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,400
an actual law at the moment
that says that it's up to
951
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,640
the, like, different
education authorities
952
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,480
to decide where disabled children
953
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,320
go to school, so they can force them
954
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,400
to go to special schools
against their will.
955
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,040
I discovered, locally,
this group called
956
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,000
the Parents Campaign for
Integrated Education,
957
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,800
and it was almost entirely parents
of children with Down's syndrome.
958
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,520
Their children were pioneers of
959
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,840
inclusive education, because
they were willing to take on
960
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,400
this particular battle
961
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,800
and make it work.
962
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,080
I've never met parents that were...
963
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,320
..that committed and that brave.
964
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,000
Together, they took on
the education authorities
965
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,760
and proved inclusive education
966
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,440
could work.
967
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,680
MAN SHOUTS
968
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,360
The real meaning of inclusion became
sort of obvious after a while.
969
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,520
And when people saw
the non-disabled kids saying,
970
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,280
"We want our friends
in school with us,
971
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,480
"and we have a lot of fun together,"
972
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,600
you know, that, in a way,
is what changes people.
973
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,280
You almost can't argue
about it any more.
974
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,960
I was often told I
was this, you know,
975
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,080
the definition of inclusion
working, because of the fact
976
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,520
that I was one of the first kids
to go into mainstream school.
977
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,480
I find it quite hard to
believe we achieved it,
978
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,360
to be honest. But, you know,
979
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:13,160
it's a human right, it's enshrined
in international human rights law.
980
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,160
Like, that was a massive thing.
981
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,480
But to go from a Portakabin
in South London,
982
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,640
you and some of your mates,
to a bit of international law that
983
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,480
is there for everybody
in the world, it's like...
984
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,840
That isn't no achievement,
I think you just have to...
985
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,480
MICHELINE LAUGHS
986
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,400
It's very nice to hear you say it.
987
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,680
It's always hard when
it's yourself, isn't it?
988
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,560
Today, the world my daughter
989
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,280
is growing up in is
undeniably different.
990
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,800
It was prejudice that segregated us
into institutions,
991
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,920
it was a fear of difference
that made doctors try and fix us,
992
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:03,000
and it was discrimination
that shut us out.
993
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,560
And after more than 100 years,
994
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,640
we're still not there yet.
995
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,080
The clock is being turned backwards,
and has been turned backwards
996
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:18,280
ten years ago, you know, that
we're almost fire-fighting now
997
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:23,040
to try and keep what little we have.
998
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:29,840
We've had some major years
of austerity. Mm.
999
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,160
Who are being the hardest hit?
Who are the people who are
1000
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,040
now living more in poverty?
1001
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,000
Disabled people.
1002
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:43,040
Who was the hardest hit
throughout the Covid-19 pandemic?
1003
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,720
Disabled people.
1004
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,720
We have to fight every, every...
1005
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,840
..threat to our freedom, you know?
1006
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,840
Cos that's what it is. It is
the threat to our freedom
1007
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,320
to live the lives we live.
1008
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,640
But, I mean, I'm an optimist
and just feel that, you know,
1009
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,000
we've got to keep going and,
you know, we've got to make sure
1010
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,760
they don't disappear.
1011
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,080
So, what's the fight
that we have today?
1012
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,160
We look at the huge achievement,
1013
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,960
er, all of the rights that
have undoubtedly been won.
1014
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,600
That's where we have to remain
vigilant, really, to make sure that
1015
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,600
those rights aren't suddenly taken
away in the middle of the night,
1016
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,480
when no-one is looking. A bill
in Parliament can just be changed.
1017
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,640
And all of a sudden, all of that
funding, or all of that freedom,
1018
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,720
or all of that access
is just suddenly gone.
1019
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,200
And so, then, what you get is
a narrowing and a narrowing
1020
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,880
and a narrowing of...
1021
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,640
..of life and experience
as a disabled person,
1022
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,600
until you...you have nothing.
1023
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,200
We're in a very bad
place at the moment.
1024
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,880
However, I can't believe
it will last.
1025
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,720
I suppose my belief is,
1026
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,280
inclusion is something everybody
wants, in their hearts.
1027
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,960
I've always said it.
1028
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:23,240
And, erm, who wouldn't want that
as the future, you know?
1029
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,520
So, I'm hoping this is the dark
before the dawn.
1030
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,160
I really am.
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