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Morning. How are you?

I can sort of see you. Perfect.Yeah.

It's slightly like "Big Brother is watching you".

Shame on you! Shame on you!

You're a wanker.

I hope I don't get a cease-and-desist from Johnnie Boden.

"Could you please not wear my clothes,

"you awful, Tory, right-wing, fox-hunting Brexiteer?"

They sound the horn and off they all go. Magnificent.

I'm well aware that there are risks in reality TV.

...worse result at a General Election

than John Major's defeat in 1997...

From the ashes of disaster grow the roses of success.

Let's go to Disneyland Paris in France.

Top priority is to go to the battlefields.

Jacob Rees-Mogg!

Could always go for Strictly or I'm A Celeb.

I feel in a terrible state of undress.

How do you feel about following in this long line of family documentaries?

I think this will be a rather different kettle of fish from the Kardashians.

Why?Well, I have no idea,

'cause I've never watched them, so I don't have a clue.

Please be gone. Vote Conservative!

Right. Are you ready? I'll put it onto 5 to start with.Okay.

Have you got your guard?Yep.

Oh, cross bat shot for four. Excellent.

Well, the summer draws gently to a close

and the children prepare to go back to school.

They've got about a fortnight left of their extraordinarily long summer holidays.

So what next?

Well, even I don't know what I'm going to do next.

I'm going to quote "Wait and see."

Haven't set the kitchen on fire yet.

The Clutton flower show happens every year,

and my dad opens it, so it's quite special.

Obviously there's a flower show, but there's also a dog show.

It's for things like agility and sausage-retrieving.

So we're training Daisy today to not eat the sausage.

You better not let me down, Daisy.

Good girl.

Right, Daisy.

You cannot eat this. You cannot eat this.

You have to resist the temptation.

Go get it. Bring it back.

No, don't eat it! Bring it back! Daisy! Daisy!

No. No. That's mine.

Practice makes progress, not perfect,

so we're... we're on our way. It's a journey.

As we know, Mary, from the ashes of disaster grow the roses of success.Yeah.

Do you have any advice

on how Daisy could possibly retrieve the sausage without eating it?

No, I expect dogs are as obedient as daughters are,

which means not very much.

Right. Well... Isn't that right, Daisy?

I think perhaps it's fathers that are a bit lacking.

Have you found you have more time on your hands

post-election, Jacob?

Oh, work expands to fill the time available.

Right. We're looking at the position for the pond.

But, yes, it's definitely a gentler pace of life compared to being an MP.

We want it sort of over there. There's a bit of a natural dip there

that I think would be a good spot for it.

I wanted ducks for ages.

Ducklings. They're really cute and they're yellow and fluffy.

This is where we'd like to have it,

but needs planning permission,

so you suddenly get enveloped in red tape and bureaucracy.

I feel Mary may have been inspired

by Carrie Johnson's Instagram.

And I think perhaps Jacob is better to live in the Land of Yes than the Land of No,

so I believe a duck-pond is happening.

That's the one that curves in, don't it?Yes.

Yes, that's right. That's the other side.

Boris and Carrie hopped on the trend and they got ducks,

and Carrie is so lovely, so obviously, if they have ducks,

you know, we have to have ducks. Gotta keep up.

So I told Daddy that, and I think that helped a lot.

Yeah, this would be the boundary. It would come around here.

You've got a natural hump there in front of you.That's right.

The pond...

Er...

Well, it's a nice idea, innit?

Mary and her ducks that I think a fox would eat.

How big is this looking, roughly?

About the size of a five-a-side football pitch, innit?

If you say so.

You're not into football, are you? No, not really.

Do you think building a duck-pond is a good use of his time now?

Exactly. He has no excuses now he's not an MP.

Yes.

Good day for it.It's lovely.

Clutton flower show,

or the Clutton shower flow as it has been some years,

when there's been a downpour and we've got absolutely soaked.

Happily, that didn't happen this year.

It was a lovely sunny day.

Thank you to Clutton for providing this wonderful weather.

I say every night on GB News that the weather in Somerset is perfect,

and here we are and the weather is perfect,

so trust me - I'm at least a former politician,

even if not currently serving,

and you know what I say is likely to be true.

And it is now my great pleasure to come back

and declare the Clutton flower show officially open.

Thank you very much indeed.

Were you at all worried or concerned

that this year, as you are no longer an MP,

you wouldn't be asked to open it,

that that would be your link with the flower show gone?

Was that a consideration?

I was touched that they still wanted me to open it,

as I am no longer the MP. I wouldn't have been surprised.

I wouldn't have been offended if they'd rung Margaret and said,

"Erm, actually, now he's no longer... Would he mind awfully...?"

That wouldn't have been unreasonable, so I was delighted to open it.

We're doing Retrieve the Sausage now,

so we'll have No.1, Bean, please.

I'm actually quite nervous. I don't know why, 'cause sausage-throwing competition...

But it's your turn next.Yeah. You're like, "Oh, I've got to go in a minute."

Can we have Daisy?

Oh, it's Mary next.

Do you think Daisy is capable

of retrieving a sausage without eating it?

I was going to say - Daisy, being a dog,

is extremely capable of retrieving a sausage.

Oh, "without eating it," you added.

Er... Daisy's a dog. What are the chances?

Get the sausage.

Daisy, bring it back. Bring it back. Daisy! Daisy! Daisy!

Daisy, Daisy, bring it, bring it.

Daisy, drop it.Oh, well done. Well done, Mary.Yes.

Yay!

Well done, Daisy. Good girl. It's extraordinary. Why didn't she eat it?

Daisy came second and got a silver medal.

Erm... Great.

My goodness, she's got a rosette.

Yeah, she has got a blue rosette, 'cause she's a Conservative.

She wouldn't accept a red rosette. That's why she came second.

Who's my clever girl? She is very clever.Yes.

Whereas my rosette gets packed away

for a few years, at any rate, if not permanently.

Daisy's the rosette-winner. Daisy triumphs.

She wins her prize. I'm afraid I lost my prize.

"Sic transit gloria mundi."

What news is there on the pond and planning permission?

Well, I've made enquiries

and we need a description of the proposal,

a sketch plan showing the extent of the site...

Right, yes....photographs, and ownership details.

Well, there's the sketch plan,

and I have got some photographs, actually, of it, which I took.

I'll send you these.Okay.

And, crucially, this will have agricultural use.

Are you going to keep animals... It wouldn't be "animals", would it?

It's "birds".Well, possibly more sheep, you see,

'cause I've got two sheep.Okay. Two sheep aren't enough, actually.

They don't do their job of keeping the grass down.

And it'd be nice to have a few Jacob sheep

and perhaps get some meat from them and so on.

You wouldn't eat them, would you? Of course I would.

Yeah, I'd do it properly. Hmm. Okay.I like lamb.

Not going to eat the current ones. They're too old.

A bit muttony.Yes.

Okay, I think that's probably all the information we need...

...for the time being. Yes. Yes. Yeah, very good.

Yeah, we'll get on to that straight away.Thanks, Margaret.

I'm very happy with this pace of life in August,

but I have to work out what to do next.

At the moment, inevitably, I'm keeping my options open.

I'm off to the Edinburgh Fringe festival with my dad.

He's going on the comedy show, which will be quite interesting,

like, just to see what happens.

I wonder if he'll be good at it. Hopefully.

Do you think this could be a career change for him now he's out of Parliament?

I think the fact that Dad's un-cool is what makes him kind of funny.

But he's not going to turn into Jack Whitehall.

The 10:30 train to Edinburgh will depart from Platform 2.

To be honest, I haven't thought about the Fringe much.

It's just something I know goes on and is good for the Edinburgh economy.

And Mary was quite keen to come, so it was a nice opportunity to spend a bit of time with Mary.

Mary is my translator and instructress in modern culture.

What are the shows that you want to go to?

I don't know, really. I don't really know what's on.

"Drag-queen wine-tasting." Drag queen...? Why...?

There's drag brunch as well.

You seem a bit obsessed by this stuff.

I just feel like it really suits you.

I found another one.Oh, yes? MC Hammersmith. "The MC stands for Middle Class.

"West London's leading freestyle gangsta rapper."A what?

What sort of rapper? Do you know Tupac?

Do I know what?Tupac.Tupac?

What?T-U-P-A-C, Tupac. No, no, no.

That's delicious. Scrumptious.

Matt Forde invited me up to the Edinburgh Festival

to join his satirical political programme.

He has done political satire for a long time,

and I think he was an advisor to the Blair government at some point.

He started on the left,

but he's slightly disillusioned with politics, hence he's become a satirist.

I know the Fringe festival is meant to be quite lefty,

and woke, and alternative, and all that jazz.

Whoo!

It is not his natural habitat.

I wouldn't really describe the assumed audience

as like these top Tory toffs.

FESTIVAL-Certainly know who Jacob Rees-Mogg is, yes.

What do you think of him?Twat.

I think he's a... out-of-touch, posh Tory boy.

Adam Smith, first real economist.

Very important figure.

I wouldn't put "Jacob Rees-Mogg" and "comedy" in the same sentence,

unless I was talking about the last 14 years of government rule.

He understands the benefits of capitalism.

He's a moron. "We're going to completely under-fund the arts,

"and I'm going to try and make money being funny

"at a festival that I've actively tried to ruin."

One of the worst humans to have lived.

Really liked walking around Edinburgh with Dad. It was really fun.

Rees-Moggs have thick skin. Not wet wipes.

Please give a huge warm welcome to Jacob Rees-Mogg!

Thank you so much.

So, I think you look younger already

for not being in the House of Commons.

Do you think about health and eat the right things? Not at all.

I had the most delicious deep-fried Mars Bar.

I love that sort of food.

My diet is whatever comes to hand washed down with black coffee.

Can you cook anything? Is there anything you cook that's, like, your main dish?

Your signature piece?No. No.

So, if Nanny wasn't around and no-one else was around... I have biscuits and cheese.

So do you have any cheeses you can recommend?

What are your favourites?Cheddar.

And what about some lovely Continental cheeses?

Europe produces so much good stuff, Jacob.

Marvellous stuff. You're welcome to it.

Do you exercise? Do you go running? Do you do weights?No.

The only exercise I take is campaigning,

so I take exercise once every five years in the normal election cycle.

So can we infer from that

that you intend to exercise again in five years?

I'm not absolutely certain, but I love politics.

I love being a Member of Parliament.

And so I'm certainly thinking very strongly about standing again. Well, I'm sure you will.

Please give a huge "thank you" to Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Thank you.

Let's go and get the wheelbarrow.

We're going to pick some apples for cider, me and Sixtus.

Do you get excited this time of year?

No, about six months from now, when it's ready to drink.

There's so many. They're just all falling.

There you go. That went in the barrel, as well.

And that one, there you are, and that one.

Ooh, this is a big 'un.

Sixtus, what's cider?

It's apple juice that's just been made strange.

Whoa!

How many pints can you drink?

I'd only drink pints of just normal apple juice.

Just normal apple juice. Talk like me if you drink too much cider.

Gobbledegook.

It is really important for the children to understand

that when they are in Somerset that is home,

and they are Somerset people,

and Shaun roots them in Somerset

because he comes from a rural background.

The same could be said of the riding establishment where they all go.

That shows them that there is a real rural life and they're part of it.

Out of the eight of us, six of us ride.

So, this is Lottie.

Erm, this is Gus,

and this is my mum's Rebel.

He's having a bit of an itch, but...

My mother grew up hunting, certainly, as a teenager,

and, er, saw to it,

ensured that I learned to ride, at that stage, whether I liked it or not.

So, I suppose, I've been keen, as my mother was with me,

to pass it on to the children.

Anselm was our youngest to have his first sit on a pony.

He was still one, but only just.

So, it's not just a question of having your legs on.

She's got to be listening to them.

Back in the beginning of the summer I qualified for Bicton.

It's, kind of, the big competition for the southwest

for show-jumping, dressage, and eventing.

Hold her, lift her, push her, work her.

Obviously I... I am looking forward to it...

...but actually, now I'm thinking about it, I am getting nervous.

You can grip your leg around her belly until you go blue in the face.

If she's ignoring it, you'll get no response.

Mary definitely feels the pressure of competing.

I hope she's doing it because she wants to,

not that she feels she has to or was forced into it.

Connect, connect. Don't drop her.

How did you get on? I was a bit more rusty than last week.

Not so "bueno" this week, so that's a bit annoying,

but better make mistakes now than when I'm actually doing it.

Hopefully I'm a bit better tomorrow.

This is endless. "Highways, parking and safety."

I'm sure. "Construction management plan will be required."

It's all such nonsense. It just needs one digger to dig a hole.Yeah.

Mary wanted a pond. Jolly good idea. I should like to have a pond,

but it turns out to be a bureaucratic morass.

"Negligible potential. How badgers may use the site for commuting purposes."

Badgers may use it for commuting purposes? Yes! Commuting badgers.

That's very formal, isn't it? Commuting badgers.

Who cares about badger commuting? They do care about badger commuting.

Well, they said there may be commuting badgers,

and if they turned up, then we'd have to adjust the plans.

But badgers can drink the water. It would be nice for them.Yeah.

I mean, just absurd.

What about any other kind of animal commuting?

I mean, there must be a few deer around.

And a few people who commute into Bristol. Perhaps they could go over it, too.

Now, I don't know what the badger commuting routes are,

whether they're going into Bristol.

I thought everyone was working from home,

so I'm glad at least the badgers are doing a bit of work and commuting,

'cause nobody else is.

It's just so ridiculously bureaucratic for a pond.

The thing is all of this just makes it expensive and bother.

It's a complete waste of time. I don't think I can be bothered.

Dressage is not particularly my thing.

I haven't the... the patience or the talent.

It's all marvellous watching your own child do something,

I have to say, and unless you know a person's child very well,

watching someone else's child do an early Pony Club-level dressage test

is rather like watching paint dry.

I loosened them loads in the car and over-did it a bit, I reckon.

It's kind of flapping around. Better.

These Pony Club mums... Very scary.

You look gorgeous, darling.

"Don't do that. Sit up straight. Hands down."

But compared to just doing, like, a little unaffiliated event,

Bicton is totally different.

So many competitors and horses,

and everyone wants the same thing - to win. That's why they're there.

Ready?Yeah. Let's get down and warm up.

Let me bring the test sheet.

There was probably an element of trepidation.

You know, the regional dressage championships, quite a big deal.

You know, "Will I remember the test?

"Will my horse fall out of the arena?" - which can happen.

She ignores me the first time, so I have to keep-

Okay, so let's get her so she listens to you first time.

You're gonna keep doing it till she listens to you the first time.

Ready? Canter.

She definitely gets nervous,

erm, but then again, I don't know who wouldn't.

Oh, hello.Hello.

Mary is on Kinder there... Is there, yes.

...warming up with Tabitha and Lucio, I think.

Insist.I know.

Insist, Mary. But she's not listening to my outside leg at all.

Whoo-oop.

I don't like that. That's okay. She just slipped.

That's okay. Find a balance. Don't panic.

When Mary was warming up,

Kinder, her horse, was quite feisty...

Oh.

...which is unnerving.

Listen to me, please, Kinder.

I'm just trying to help you.

I think that rather, perhaps, unsettled her.

Don't fret, sweetheart. It'll be all right.

You'll be brilliant. Don't worry. Don't worry.

Don't worry. You'll do great, girl.

And it doesn't matter. It's all for fun.

It's all for fun.

Do you want a handkerchief? No. Thank you.

It's just my nerves. Like, hard for me to breathe, and then...Yes.

Three "hail Mary"s. The solution to everything.

She takes her time, that hail-Mary. Yes, but it always works in the end.

She got herself together and got in the ring.

So, I'm impressed and really pleased with this...

...because in the warm-up it was going wrong, which is why we had the tears.

Salute. Salute. Did she salute? Yeah, she did salute.

Mary, well done.

I'll go and meet her. Well done, that girl.

65.4. Oh.Yeah.

Well, that's very good.

65.4%.

You think, "Well, that's a 2:1 at university."

Do you feel proud? Of Kinder, yes. Not of me.

For what it's worth, your father's proud of you.

He thinks you're remarkable.

Can't quite believe we're related.

But now it's over I can actually breathe, which is nice.

Nice luxury.

Jacob, as a father,

is it important to know when to be tough

and when to be supportive?

I never really thought about that, actually.

I think I'm just putty in my children's hands regardless.

I don't think I've ever... I ought to be tougher, I think.

I think all my children would say I should be stricter and firmer

rather than being such a push-over.

So, your school uniform's there, school sports kit there.

The "back to school" in September is interesting.

Yeah, your GCSE folders and books here.

In four days, we have to get Mary back to Ascot...

Can I give you this to deal with yourself?Yeah.

...Anselm, Alfred, and Sixtus back to London for prep school...

...and Peter and Thomas back to Eton

for the start of the Michaelmas half,

or "autumn term", as the rest of us would say.

Down there.

Can you remember how you felt at the end of summer

when you used to go back to boarding school?Erm...

Er, yes. Fine, actually.

I was always happy at home when I was at home

and happy at school when I was at school.

I mean, I loved my wonderful parents very much, still do,

but I just preferred, I suppose, the camaraderie of boarding,

living with lots of people your own age

rather than rattling around a large house, just me and a nanny.

Lovely nanny, but no siblings of my age,

so I decided boarding was much more fun.

I could take her in my trunk.

She fits.That's sweet.

She likes it. She wants to come to school. No, stay in.

What was it like the first time Mary went away? Was it more emotional?

For who?Mary... and you. Erm, I don't know.

It wasn't emotional.

Mary's not our eldest, so she wasn't the first to...

...start boarding. The adjustment had been the year before, when Peter went off to Eton.

Did you feel sad when he went off? I certainly felt a bit heavy-hearted for a couple of days.

Erm... but then you get used to it,

and he was so happy there, immediately happy,

which was absolutely great. Anyway, yeah, so...

...there we go.

Is the bag ready?Yeah.

Great.

It is a pity that we won't see Mary for 12 days,

but, then again, Jacob and I both wanted to board,

chose to board, and then loved it -

eventually in Jacob's case, but immediately in mine -

and we wanted that for our children,

and, no, I do not wish they were at day school in London.

They're much happier where they are.

I have never looked forward to going back to school, ever,

because you always want the summer to continue.

Like, you always want the summer to last for ever.

This is proper weather, innit?

Tropical storm in East Harptree.

No, we're in West Harptree, aren't we? I've had a drink.

And we have to say goodbye to Daisy,

and that is the worst, the worst thing I'm thinking about.

How much do you miss your parents when you're at school?

Yeah, no, I miss my parents.

I like being at home, so I'm always ringing up,

especially to get, like, a Daisy update

or, "How are the horses doing?" or something.

I usually call most...

Usually with Dad and Mummy most days.

Erm... Yeah.

Mary? Anyone know where Jacob is?

What are you on hand to do now?

I've no idea. Hold the brolly. Top job.

I'm not taking this ridiculous trunk.

It's just easier to put the things in the car

and have one journey, not several.

I do not understand why the school wants people to have trunks. Nothing but a bore,

and it won't fit in my car, anyway.

That ain't going in there.

Big enough for a golf bag.

Doing it. Planning ahead.

Thank you. Erm...

Where's that other book box?

Sixtus, in there. You're coming with me.

Anselm, et cetera, with your mater. Whoops.

Onward, Christian soldiers...

...marching belatedly as to war,

with the cross of Jesus going on before.

I don't think Mary ever looks forward to going back to school.

Definitely more of a homebody, but this was the case when she was at day school.

What is the ideal that you would like

in terms of boarding, non-boarding...

Well, I don't really like boarding very much.

Do you think you wouldn't...? But I don't know.

Wouldn't you get fed up with us if you were home all the time?

Well, if I was in Somerset all the time, I'd never get fed up with it.

I like being at home.Yeah, I love having you at home, as you know.

And... Yeah.

Why can't you just accidentally keep taking me to London?

All right. Okay. Erm...

This might put "where there's a will there's a way" to the test.

Well, it's a cloudy but mild September day,

and the car is being loaded up

for the two elder boys to head back

to the College of Our Lady of Eton beside Windsor.

Everyone needs a picture of their distinguished ancestors

on their walls at school.

We won't actually see them now for a month.

I know Helena always is sorry to see them go, as am I...

Can you drag this through from the other side?

...but they get a fantastic education there, so it is all to the good.

I'm stitching more name-tapes onto some flannels...

...for Peter to take to school.

Can you remember when you had to do this for Jacob?

Yes, indeed, I can, and all the others.

What was Jacob like at the start of term, Veronica?

Was he excited to go back to Eton?

Not for the first year he wasn't, no.

He was very homesick.

He used to ring me up every day from a Windsor call-box.

Would I take a reverse charge from a Windsor call-box?

Every day.

Could I send this,

or bring something else on Sunday when I went down?

Could I take him Bath Oliver biscuits or books,

go to Harrods and get him some PG Wodehouse paperbacks? That sort of thing.

And how was he different to Peter and Thomas?

Well, they're more independent.

They don't bother to ring me up or get me to do jobs for them very often.

It's the return to Eton,

so we're trying to squeeze everything in, both my belongings and Thomas',

so Mummy's done a good job of getting it all in,

but, yeah, we return this evening.

Chuck this down there, please.Yeah.

Are you not roasting in cords and a cashmere...?

No.Okay. I love my cords.Yeah, okay.

Ah-ha. Oh, hello, sweetheart.

Hello. How are you?

I am well. How are you?Good.

Better for hearing from you.

How's Daisy? I haven't heard from Margaret.

I've been in touch with her today, but she hasn't said anything about Daisy. I hope she's all right.

Erm... You know I miss Daisy when I'm away.

Yes, yes. Well, I think she misses you too.Yeah.

So, are you missing us all, or are you as happy as a sand-boy?

No, it would be nice to see you...

Yes, quite right. No.

Do you want to see my room? Oh, I'd love a tour, yes.

There's my tuck-box.Oh, yes.

Then I have a tuck drawer, which is just brilliant.

Oh, very good.It's fantastic.

And this is my pinboard. Ah, I like that.

My Conservative calendar. Quite right.

Good, solid stuff, yes. "Labour isn't working."

Excellent.That's Kinder... Oh, yes, yes....and Daisy.Yes.

And that's my bed.Your bed.Yes.

It all looks very comfortable.Yeah.

Yes. Hey-ho. I'd better let you go to your French drop-in, sweetheart.

Okay, bye.All right. Well, lovely to talk to you. Pip-pip.

Bye.Bye. Bye.

How is she? All right. She's fine. She's tickety-boo.

She's in fine fettle.

I love hearing from her. She's such a sweetheart.

She's always so positive and upbeat about things.

And where do you think she'd rather be, Jacob?

At school or, do you think, in Somerset?

Of course she'd rather be in Somerset,

but everybody would rather be in Somerset.

But there's life to be led. You've got to crack on with work.

Somerset is there as the icing on the cake,

but if cakes were all icing, they would be a bit too rich.

I've always said to my children that if they are unhappy at their schools,

I'll take them out straight away,

but children need to work out how to lead their own lives.

You are not going to be there for ever to tell them what to do

or how to do it,

and so their becoming independent is important,

and boarding school advances that process,

I think, very considerably.

Well, we're off to lunch with William Sitwell.

We were at school together. We've kept in touch ever since.

He's a great sounding board, and I'm much looking forward to catching up.

Abracadabra.

Hello. Good afternoon. I'm expecting to see Mr Sitwell, please.

He's waiting for you. Thank you very much.

Oh, William, hello.Hi, Jacob. Sorry to keep you waiting.

I'd stand up if I could. I'll shuffle in.

How are you?Very well, thank you.

As we were coming here,

I was very relieved we weren't next door,

'cause the last time I went next door

the proprietor, at the end of the evening,

berated me about Brexit and then, even worse, stole my taxi.Okay.

Right.I haven't been back since. So, when did you last eat Japanese?

Oh, I should think when I was in Japan years ago.

Okay. And did you cope with it? Erm, depends what it is.

Look at that. Sea urchin. Ah-ha. Thank you.

How's that?

Just shove it straight in, Jacob.

The whole thing?The whole thing.

I'm glad Nanny isn't watching.Go on.

There you go.Mm.

Delicious, but as I say, I'm glad Nanny wasn't watching.

She would not approve of a mouthful that size being taken.

So, my two have gone back to school.

All six of yours have gone back? All back, yes.

Are they all boarding?

No, the three older ones board,

and the three younger ones are still at home.

Will they all board? Will you let them decide?

If one wanted to stay at home, would you let them?

It's trying to organise it.

You see, I don't want them to go to day school in London,

so they've got choice of school much more than they've got choice of boarding or not.

We first met quite soon after, I think, we both started.Yes.

Do you remember those early days?

Did you miss home? Oh, hugely, hugely.You did?

It was quite a surprise. Shock to the system.

The food was terrible. It was cold. You had to make your own bed.

Well, Nanny came to do that for me. What, every day?Not every day.

What else is going on? Are you still hankering after going back into politics?

Yes. It's a very interesting thought.

There is so much that needs to be done.

We have condemned ourselves to a low-growth, poor economy.

And yet, we know how to make it better.

You say "we". I mean, Labour are in 'cause the Tories...

'Cause we made a mess of it. I agree. I agree.

It's quite hard to quite so quickly say,

"Come on, let us back in,

"because we need to fix the mess that we created."

Do you feel...? I do think there's a, sort of, idea that...

you've done it, you've got further than you ever thought you'd get,

and it's an addiction of the roller-coaster ride you want to get back on.

Don't tell me it's because you want to serve the people.

It is also about you and what you want. I've always said I've enjoyed it.

What I really enjoyed...Yeah. ...about government

was making decisions,

and therefore there is an attraction if the right opportunity came up.

Right, then.

Well, that was jolly good. Very good indeed.

Are you surprised he's still interested in politics,

or do you think once a politician, always a politician?

He went far further in politics than any of us ever thought,

but it's more than career. It's about being at the centre of things.

When you're an MP, it is your job to be at the centre

of the biggest discussions on the planet,

so I can see how that's addictive.

We're having a little party for Nanny, not a huge party.

Hello, Barbara. Hello. Nice to see you.

The Conservative party has laid out a timetable for finding its next leader.

Maybe this will be an end of the Tory party,

if they make a mistake in this contest.

Politics is in my blood.

I really can't see myself taking up knitting.