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(soft ambient music)
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(waves splashing)
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(light piano music)
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(people chattering)
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(water splashes)
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(gentle piano and string music)
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- It was sort of a weird day.
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The wind was lightish,
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and I was just kitin' there.
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I cut over to the south
tower and some stuff fell
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so I cut back the other way and
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I just saw a mass falling towards my kite
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and I thought it was the same thing,
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and so I turned the kite back
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and then I looked over
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and, you know, before they hit,
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I realized it was a
person that had jumped.
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So then I cut over just to see
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or maybe possibly help.
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The current just sucked them under
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and I stayed in the tide because I knew
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that the Coast Guard would come and
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that's when it became more
of a surreal experience to me
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because I've seen that Coast
Guard boat a million times
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and they've helped us out and rescued us
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when we have problems,
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but they're all wearing
the white hazmat suits
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and that's when I realize that
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there was definitely a person in.
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(waves crashing)
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- I never knew the real
scale of the problem.
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I don't know, the whole
thing is crazy to me.
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I mean, I just don't even understand it.
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Really.
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- When I was riding back after that time,
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I was thinking about how
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that person was at the lowest of the low
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of their life obviously
and how the whole day
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all I could think about,
it's gonna be a good day
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to go out and kite and
pack my passions for it
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and here at the same time, you know,
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I'm reaching for what I love to do
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and this person's ending their life
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so that was unreal.
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- [Eric] Yeah, exactly, kiting is, to me,
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a real celebration of life.
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It's exhilarating, it's thrilling,
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it's just awesome.
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So it's a real juxtaposition of
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celebration of life and ending of life.
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♫ Quiet
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♫ It's neither heaven nor space
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♫ It's just high
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♫ And the ring around the moon
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♫ Looks like light and love ♫
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- It was one of those
epic days in San Francisco
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driving across the Golden Gate Bridge.
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It was crystal clear.
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The day was calm.
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There were tourists
walking across the bridge
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and usually on those types of days
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I always soak in the beauty of the bay
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and look over to Alcatraz,
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and on that particular day
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I looked over, I was
probably a little bit more
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than mid-span when I saw
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this gentleman on the railings,
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and at first glance, I thought,
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wow, this guy looks like
he's gonna bungee jump
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because of the way that
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he was standing on the railing and then
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common sense kicked in and said you can't.
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My thoughts were you
couldn't jump off the bridge,
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bungee jump off the bridge,
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and then he just kind of held his arms out
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and disappeared and I wasn't sure if
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I was imagining this and so
I drove for a few seconds
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and looked in my review mirror
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and my heart rate went up and I almost
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felt like I wanted to start crying because
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I thought to myself, wow, I
might be one of the last people
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that have ever seen this person alive.
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When I went into the tower
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and I talked to the highway patrolmen,
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you know, I asked him blatantly, I said,
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"Is this a rare occurrence
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"or does this happen often?"
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And he looked at me and kinda smiled
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and just said, "It
happens it all the time."
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(soft ambient music)
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(water splashes)
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(melancholy piano music)
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- It's hard to define Gene as a person.
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He was
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just not of this world,
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I think is really the truth of it.
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Not of this world as we know it.
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His mother was woman who said,
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"Oh, I never want children,"
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and then a few years later,
she found herself pregnant
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and decided
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to have the child
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rather than leave the
country for an alternative
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and she was looking forward to it
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and so came my friend Gene,
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who was always referred to
as my little brother, Thump.
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He was born an old man.
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And all their lives it
was just the two of them,
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pretty much.
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People came and went in their lives
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in relationships of various sorts, but
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it was mostly just always the two of them,
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dependent on each other for
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that stability that
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one thinks of as tomorrow is coming
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and we will do this and we will do that.
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(melancholy piano music)
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- [Voiceover] Growing
up with Lisa in Marin,
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she was just, like, completely normal
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until she was like 14.
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- [Voiceover] 14.
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- Yeah, and I'm four years older
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and I moved away, I lived in Alaska,
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and my mom would write me and say,
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"Hey, Lisa's acting strange
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"and doing this things,"
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and I kept telling her it was
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typical teenage stuff
and I came back, like,
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10 months later.
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There was a big change.
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- Our upbringing
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was fabulous, I would say, until my father
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suddenly died when I was 14.
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- Well, that was a shock.
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That threw all three of us,
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but it didn't make Jeff
and I mentally ill,
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but Lisa had different personality.
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She wasn't as outgoing as my brother or I,
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and she was just--
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- She was more angelic.
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We went through all the counselors
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and finally got her to
go to a psychiatrist,
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and he said that Lisa is
a paranoid schizophrenic
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and she will never recover.
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That was a terrible
thing to tell a mother.
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He says, "You have to take her right now
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"to the crisis center at Marin General."
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She immediately, when we got there,
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got on the payphone and
started calling her friends
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and telling 'em how terrible I was
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to bring her to this place.
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Well, they brought her
into the crisis unit
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and do you know, for all the bad things
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she did when she was home,
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she straightened up, acted as if
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she was perfectly normal
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and they discharged her.
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We went through that several times.
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(somber ambient music)
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She had her own style.
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She liked to wear headbands.
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She liked to wear black.
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- Black leather headbands with rhinestones
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and matching gloves
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with no fingers
- [Rachel] And she always wore
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bicycle gloves.
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- No, Harley Rider gloves.
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You know, leather.
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- [Both] Leather, leather.
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- Leather gloves.
[Tara] She was
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a leather queen.
- [Rachel] Yes, yes.
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(waves splashing)
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(seagulls crying)
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(tense ambient music)
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- I met Gene at a comic book convention
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in Oakland.
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We just hit it off immediately.
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By looking at us, you wouldn't think
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that we'd become such tight friends,
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but we did.
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You know, he looked like the
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cool rocker type, you know,
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long hair, you know,
everything about him is
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just cool and the ladies like it
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and I was Mr. Hiphop, you know,
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other side of the spectrum and stuff.
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- Everything was black.
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His clothes were black.
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His hair was black.
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The curtains were black.
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The walls were black.
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The sheets were black.
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He just wanted...
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It's as though he wanted no,
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no contrasts.
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He mostly just wanted to be
in his room with his computer.
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- [Dave] Me and Gene had long talks about
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love and where he's trying to find it,
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and I told him he's not gonna
find it on the internet.
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A lot of times, he didn't want to hear it.
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He just wanted what he saw.
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He would send me pictures of these girls
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and I'm like,
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"Dude, what are you doing?"
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You know, (laughs) that's not,
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that ain't it, you know.
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I'm like, "Take time,
get to know this person."
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You don't know this person from nothing
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just because you read
a bio about this person
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and this person wants to
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turn around and have sex with you.
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That's not love, you know.
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(soft ambient music)
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- I noticed early on
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that Lisa was very interested in romance,
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and I saw her go through
some very painful rejections.
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- She met a guy.
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This was just before Christmas.
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She took off with him on a bus.
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She was gone for a week.
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We have no idea where she was.
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She was off her medication,
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and I was wrapping gifts.
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All of a sudden, I looked up
and there was Lisa outside
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just really in a bad state.
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She thought our dogs were devils.
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She broke a clock because she
thought it was a time bomb.
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I had to have the police come out,
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but before they would admit her,
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she had to have a court order to get in
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because she'd been in and out
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of the crisis so many times.
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- Being a schizophrenic is like
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watching TV and having 44
channels on at the same time,
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and that's her environment 24/7.
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You know, there's just
like little noises here,
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something there, and
I'm trying to talk here,
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but that's distracting
me, that's distracting me,
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and it's all equal.
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That would freak anybody out.
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(water splashes)
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(thunder crashes)
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- She graduated from house to house
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to a home where there was constant care
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and finally to independent living
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for about 15 years.
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- That place was great.
- [Rachel] And she had
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her own room and she had
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a very nice situation
there, she liked it there.
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- But one of her roommates there, right,
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jumped off the bridge too?
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- Well, no, this was a friend that--
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- A friend.
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- A friend of hers.
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- Two years ago?
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- Oh, no, it's longer
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than that.
- [Sara] Longer than that.
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- Much longer.
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- As far as pills and
other forms of suicide,
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I haven't personally
experienced that in my houses.
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It's like the last three people, I think,
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who I was kind of close to in Buckaloo
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were all bridge jumpers.
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(tense ambient music)
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- [Tara] After she settled in in Marin--
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- [Rachel] She did well there.
- [Tara] She was pretty
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stable, then all of a
sudden this past year,
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she just felt she needed
more support for some reason.
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Do you think that was
the medication change?
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- No, I think it was because she was ill.
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- Okay, she wasn't feeling good.
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- [Rachel] Her teeth were just so rotted
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and they felt it was from medication
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and from drinking a lot of Coke.
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So she had to have all her teeth removed.
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So that was--
- [Tara] She looked kinda
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funny walking around with no teeth.
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- That was a problem, too.
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It was just from then on downhill.
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(foghorn blares)
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- [Voiceover] Okay, everyone,
let's stay together.
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The Golden Gate Bridge was
designed by Joseph Strauss.
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It opened in 1937.
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Each year, about nine million tourists
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come to visit and they enjoy--
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- Well, we went for Easter vacation
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to take out the kids to San Francisco,
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and before going to the Alcatraz,
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before going to the Golden Bridge,
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we went to Alcatraz and we went to
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the Pier 39 and from there we took a walk
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to the Golden Gate.
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(cars rushing)
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- [Rachel] We had a big dinner on--
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- [Tara] The week before Easter.
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- The week before, yep, Palm Sunday.
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So I said, "Lisa, I'm not gonna fix
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"a big dinner on Easter Sunday."
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The kids weren't going to be around.
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So a few--
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- Except that was a
tradition in our family
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to get together.
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- Well, she didn't seem to mind.
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She never objected.
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So I called her about 1 o'clock on,
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she didn't feel good that week,
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she still didn't go to work,
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and so I said, "Well, I
guess I could come down,
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"but I don't know what I can do."
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- Lisa was so quiet and,
oftentimes, had this,
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I don't know how you'd say it, poker face?
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Where she kept her feelings to herself.
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She wasn't one to, you know,
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get all emotional and which surprised me
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'cause I look back now at Mira Woods.
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We were walking down the little trail
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and there was this huge redwood tree
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lying in the middle of the path
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and she looked at it and she goes,
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"Wow, look at that!"
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And sounds like no big deal
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but for Lisa that was like,
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that was different.
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- And then she came home,
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and I guess she was hungry
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and she asked a girl there,
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"Did you fix dinner?"
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And they said, "No."
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And so then they said she was very quiet
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and she got in the freezer
and took something out
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and fixed it herself and
after she had then eaten,
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they said she was very
quiet when she was eating,
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she got up and took her
purse and her jacket
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and off she went
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and that's the last they saw her.
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(soft ambient music)
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- We were taking pictures of each other,
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and I was taking pictures to them,
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and Paulo was taking pictures to us,
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and they were playing and--
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- And I got scared.
- [Mother] He was holding
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the baby and we were walking and--
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- And we saw that lady.
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- The lady, yes, put the--
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- The bag on the ground
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and she jumped off.
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- [Mother] But I said,
"She jumped, she jumped!"
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And I was like--
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- [Older Boy] And she told my brother
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to go call the cops.
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- Well, Paulo went running
down to get some help
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because I wanted somebody to help her
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because for us it was the first time
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to see somebody jump off the bridge.
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(speaking in Spanish)
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And before she jump,
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she look at me and Vidarlan.
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She was laughing.
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She laugh like a smile like
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you don't know what I do,
but she smile and jump.
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- Like she was acting like,
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like a gorilla or something.
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- Ay, Sebastian.
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No, that's not it. (laughs)
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He likes to make things up.
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(somber ambient music)
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- I'm not 100% convinced
that she did commit suicide.
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I don't know if someone
had accompanied her
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to the Golden Gate Bridge
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and had encouraged her to jump.
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I don't know if someone
had been pressuring her
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to go to the Golden Gate Bridge and jump
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and, certainly, it is a highly risky
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rather glorious way
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to draw attention to oneself.
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- My brother's very religious.
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He doesn't believe she committed suicide.
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He thinks it's something else.
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I don't know what he thinks.
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- I didn't know that.
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- Well, he won't call it that because
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it's a sin to commit suicide in his mind
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and that's not what she did.
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She fell or something,
I don't know what he,
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he's coming up with
different justifications so
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he can look at it--
- [Rachel] He doesn't talk
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to me like that, so.
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- Thing is, if you go stand
on that bridge and look down,
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the amount of guts that you have to have
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to stick anything over that rail,
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it must have been incredible,
the pressure on her,
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it had to be worse than
the thought of doing that,
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and I've always thought of myself
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as a stronger person than her
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and there's no way I would
have the guts to do that
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even with, you know, a
parachute or something,
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and for her to just do it just like that,
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it was like, I still can't believe it.
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My family, my husband, my kids,
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we're like, how did she
even think about doing that?
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00:22:01,951 --> 00:22:06,201
- I think it was a
relief, a relief for her,
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because she knew she
probably never would be
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physically well again and she knew
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she had the mental illness
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and she was just at the end of her rope.
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There were too many things, so.
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00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,210
- Yeah, I agree with that but it's--
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- She's in a better place,
that's all I can say.
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- You have to look at it that way.
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You know.
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♫ In this darkest hour
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♫ A brave face will break soon
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♫ The world waits for you
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♫ The world waits ♫
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- Yeah, I try and relive, you know,
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when doing some things, say this is
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something Philip likes or
my son would like this or,
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he still lives with me, you know.
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I go somewhere, a ballgame or something,
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he's there.
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And then
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I think I'm getting
more of an understanding
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00:23:25,961 --> 00:23:29,401
what he went through toward the end
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'cause you feel the same way, it's just,
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you know, what makes any
of us go over that line?
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It's just
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some days you think like that yourself.
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00:23:42,127 --> 00:23:44,967
It's just he thought about it every day.
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00:23:50,532 --> 00:23:54,662
- [Mary] What makes a
person be able to do that?
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00:23:54,660 --> 00:23:57,850
I don't know, I don't
have the answer to that.
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00:23:57,846 --> 00:24:00,246
- [Wally] Well, it's like any pain.
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00:24:00,246 --> 00:24:02,636
When it becomes unbearable,
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00:24:02,635 --> 00:24:05,375
you'll do anything and
it's like physical cancer,
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00:24:05,376 --> 00:24:09,696
I mean, if you have cancer of the mind,
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00:24:09,703 --> 00:24:12,793
you know, nobody knows
what you're going through.
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00:24:18,112 --> 00:24:22,082
- I mean, it was like
our hands being tied.
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00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:24,839
I mean, no matter how much we talk to him,
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00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,630
I mean, he was in and out of the hospital,
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00:24:26,634 --> 00:24:29,274
the doctors talked to him and
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00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:34,710
it was like nothing would change his mind.
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00:24:37,051 --> 00:24:39,601
In fact, I think the
medicines made him worse.
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00:24:40,911 --> 00:24:44,391
- We thought if we can get
him through his episodes,
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00:24:44,394 --> 00:24:45,584
but that's the crazy thing is
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00:24:45,583 --> 00:24:49,003
as soon as you get somebody strong enough,
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00:24:49,004 --> 00:24:50,994
that's when they have the courage.
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00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:56,919
So do you make 'em well
or do you keep 'em sick?
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He tried it a few times
448
00:25:03,142 --> 00:25:05,952
but the second attempt he said,
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00:25:05,947 --> 00:25:07,847
"My third attempt, it's not gonna fail."
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00:25:07,854 --> 00:25:09,754
He said, "I'll make sure of it."
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He researched it and found
the Golden Gate Bridge
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on the internet.
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He said to him it was the best way.
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I mean, it was planned out for months
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and the final two weeks
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he was making his last preparations, so.
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He said whether some people believe
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suicide's a sin or not.
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He asked that a lot.
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I said, "It's something man made up."
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00:25:40,823 --> 00:25:44,713
And at least he thanked me
for telling him the truth.
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You know, I don't know.
463
00:25:48,452 --> 00:25:51,632
It's just I don't think God's
gonna hold you responsible
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for something you can't handle,
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and he said, "Well, whether
I come back or not,"
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he says, "If I do, I'll see ya again, Dad.
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"If not, just know that I'm at peace."
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(somber piano music)
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00:26:14,932 --> 00:26:16,052
What I'm trying to say is that
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I didn't want him to feel like
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he was in a cage inside of himself.
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00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,680
Some people say the body's a temple.
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00:26:22,677 --> 00:26:26,807
Well, he thought his body
was prison in his mind.
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He knew he was loved.
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00:26:28,127 --> 00:26:29,357
He knew he had everything,
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00:26:29,364 --> 00:26:32,104
could do anything, and yet
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00:26:32,095 --> 00:26:33,545
he felt trapped.
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That was the only way he could get free.
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00:26:38,812 --> 00:26:43,682
(soft ambient music)
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00:26:50,556 --> 00:26:52,856
(truck horn honks)
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00:26:54,747 --> 00:26:57,507
- [Voiceover] Gene was
very overly dramatic.
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00:26:57,510 --> 00:27:00,920
- Even the simplest things
were very long and drawn out
483
00:27:00,923 --> 00:27:03,703
and very hard and he would
always say things like,
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00:27:03,695 --> 00:27:05,335
"Kill me now."
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00:27:05,339 --> 00:27:08,149
You'd be talking about
something and ask him,,
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00:27:08,153 --> 00:27:09,103
"What do you want for breakfast?"
487
00:27:09,101 --> 00:27:10,951
"Oh, I don't care, just kill me."
488
00:27:12,373 --> 00:27:13,313
"Okay, well, you know,
489
00:27:13,309 --> 00:27:14,909
"where do you wanna go
to look for a job today?"
490
00:27:14,909 --> 00:27:17,179
"I don't care, it's not
gonna matter, just kill me."
491
00:27:17,181 --> 00:27:19,331
- Yeah, "Might be easier
for you to just kill me."
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00:27:19,325 --> 00:27:21,585
- You didn't take him serious
if he said certain things
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00:27:21,586 --> 00:27:23,836
because he would almost
say it in a joking manner.
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00:27:23,837 --> 00:27:27,947
He wouldn't say it with,
like, this intensity of,
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00:27:27,951 --> 00:27:29,731
you know, like, "I'm
gonna do it this time,"
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00:27:29,732 --> 00:27:32,412
and he wasn't that person.
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00:27:32,409 --> 00:27:33,809
He would make light of it and he was like,
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00:27:33,807 --> 00:27:35,477
"Man, I'm gonna just commit suicide.
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00:27:35,481 --> 00:27:37,501
"I'm gonna just shoot myself.
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00:27:37,497 --> 00:27:39,747
"I'm gonna do it with a bow and arrow."
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00:27:39,754 --> 00:27:41,444
And when he would say this stuff,
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00:27:41,443 --> 00:27:42,373
we were just like, "Yeah, whatever,"
503
00:27:42,371 --> 00:27:44,351
and years and years and years would go by
504
00:27:44,345 --> 00:27:46,955
as he's crying wolf.
505
00:27:50,816 --> 00:27:54,636
- But he was still fun
to be around. (laughs)
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00:27:54,641 --> 00:27:55,961
When I hear myself saying it,
507
00:27:55,957 --> 00:27:57,377
it sounds like he wasn't fun.
508
00:27:57,376 --> 00:27:58,526
I mean, he was fun to be around.
509
00:27:58,528 --> 00:27:59,318
He was fun to go out with
510
00:27:59,317 --> 00:28:01,997
and go to the clubs with and stuff.
511
00:28:01,996 --> 00:28:04,196
He would just get in those little funks
512
00:28:04,202 --> 00:28:05,642
and pretty soon it was
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00:28:07,327 --> 00:28:10,517
just like I didn't even
pay it any attention.
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00:28:10,516 --> 00:28:12,546
It was just something he said.
515
00:28:12,553 --> 00:28:15,483
All the time in every conversation.
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- [Voiceover] If everyone onboard
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could take their seats as
we go under the bridge.
518
00:28:21,382 --> 00:28:25,462
The swells and tides
are very unpredictable.
519
00:28:25,458 --> 00:28:29,048
The Golden Gate Bridge is 1.2 miles long
520
00:28:29,048 --> 00:28:32,718
and the towers are 746 feet tall.
521
00:28:32,717 --> 00:28:35,417
The roadway is suspended 220 feet
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00:28:35,416 --> 00:28:37,756
above the water at center span.
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00:28:39,592 --> 00:28:41,732
The Golden Gate Bridge
is the most photographed
524
00:28:41,730 --> 00:28:44,460
manmade structure in North America
525
00:28:44,458 --> 00:28:45,648
and it is also considered
526
00:28:45,648 --> 00:28:48,568
one of the Seven Wonders
of the Modern World.
527
00:28:51,035 --> 00:28:53,225
- We had gone to Montana,
Glacier National Park,
528
00:28:53,229 --> 00:28:56,729
the year before and
Philip had a blast there.
529
00:28:56,725 --> 00:28:58,635
We told him if he got
outta the army in time,
530
00:28:58,642 --> 00:29:00,952
which he did, that we
were going back there
531
00:29:00,946 --> 00:29:04,476
and they had those forest fires and so
532
00:29:04,475 --> 00:29:07,775
we couldn't get in so I had
been to San Francisco before
533
00:29:07,781 --> 00:29:09,391
and I said, "You'll love it there,"
534
00:29:09,389 --> 00:29:11,609
and the bridge fascinated him.
535
00:29:11,610 --> 00:29:13,210
- For some reason, yeah,
536
00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:14,440
when we were driving across the bridge,
537
00:29:14,436 --> 00:29:17,406
he just kept looking around and
538
00:29:17,405 --> 00:29:19,335
I just thought it was kind of odd,
539
00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:20,620
you know, that he would just be,
540
00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:22,450
and he wanted to get out.
541
00:29:22,452 --> 00:29:24,102
He says, "Can we walk along the bridge?"
542
00:29:24,097 --> 00:29:26,887
And I says, "I guess
there are people who could
543
00:29:26,891 --> 00:29:27,911
"walk along the bridge."
544
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:29,539
- [Wally] Yeah, we were on a tour bus.
545
00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:32,050
- [Mary] Yeah, I said, "But,
you know, we can't get out now"
546
00:29:32,047 --> 00:29:36,777
and he just kept looking out the window
547
00:29:36,783 --> 00:29:40,013
like he wanted to get out
and just look around and
548
00:29:43,428 --> 00:29:46,488
you know, he thought it
was just so beautiful and
549
00:29:46,489 --> 00:29:47,869
when we did get out of the bus
550
00:29:47,865 --> 00:29:50,685
and he wanted his
picture taken a few times
551
00:29:50,685 --> 00:29:53,705
with the bridge in the background and...
552
00:29:54,619 --> 00:29:55,239
- [Wally] He'd ask questions.
553
00:29:55,244 --> 00:29:56,594
"How deep do you think it is?
554
00:29:56,588 --> 00:29:58,998
"How high do you think it is?"
555
00:30:02,374 --> 00:30:04,194
- I mean, I like the bridge too,
556
00:30:04,188 --> 00:30:06,958
but he just seemed so fascinated by it
557
00:30:06,961 --> 00:30:10,791
and I just thought that was kinda odd
558
00:30:10,793 --> 00:30:13,653
to have such a fascination with it.
559
00:30:13,652 --> 00:30:15,242
I don't know, it was like
560
00:30:15,244 --> 00:30:17,424
almost calling him (laughs) type thing.
561
00:30:17,418 --> 00:30:20,908
It was like magnetic to him.
562
00:30:20,906 --> 00:30:21,966
- Yeah.
563
00:30:23,911 --> 00:30:25,251
- I don't know.
564
00:30:28,966 --> 00:30:31,346
- [Wally] We thought he
might go and live out there.
565
00:30:31,345 --> 00:30:35,115
Even if he's homeless, at
least it's a city he loves.
566
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:36,539
'Cause he was homeless in Texas,
567
00:30:36,535 --> 00:30:38,395
lived out of his car.
568
00:30:38,401 --> 00:30:41,901
Met two girls online, went down twice.
569
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:43,310
Those didn't work.
570
00:30:44,852 --> 00:30:47,992
- He always fell in love
with the wrong person.
571
00:30:47,991 --> 00:30:50,541
I think everything just disillusioned him.
572
00:30:50,537 --> 00:30:54,427
He had this idealistic view of things
573
00:30:54,430 --> 00:30:59,400
and this perception of
how everything should be
574
00:30:59,398 --> 00:31:03,868
and then when it didn't
meet up to his expectations,
575
00:31:03,869 --> 00:31:06,759
after awhile, it was like,
what's the point then?
576
00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:12,330
- [Wally] But he still
had to make a choice.
577
00:31:14,573 --> 00:31:16,333
(water splashes)
578
00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:20,703
(soft ambient music)
579
00:31:20,704 --> 00:31:24,894
- Gene's choice, his preference
had been made years before.
580
00:31:24,885 --> 00:31:27,325
He became increasingly alienated
581
00:31:27,327 --> 00:31:29,917
and he had told his mother that
582
00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:31,889
he wanted to kill himself
583
00:31:31,892 --> 00:31:34,552
and she, in essence, had told him,
584
00:31:34,546 --> 00:31:38,206
"I didn't invest a
lifetime in you to have you
585
00:31:38,209 --> 00:31:41,869
"die on me, kill yourself, and walk away.
586
00:31:41,874 --> 00:31:45,494
"You don't have a right to
do that while I'm alive."
587
00:31:48,708 --> 00:31:50,938
And I think it was very hard for him
588
00:31:50,937 --> 00:31:55,667
to watch his mother's non-participation
589
00:31:55,673 --> 00:31:59,023
in a battle with cancer
that she might have won.
590
00:32:00,188 --> 00:32:02,588
It was a choice on her part.
591
00:32:04,128 --> 00:32:05,978
- When I talked to him,
592
00:32:05,984 --> 00:32:09,064
he was acting as if life goes on,
593
00:32:09,062 --> 00:32:11,942
you know, type situation
594
00:32:11,941 --> 00:32:15,111
and I would always tell
him I'm here for you,
595
00:32:15,112 --> 00:32:17,182
you still got family no matter what.
596
00:32:19,021 --> 00:32:21,221
I'm a brother from another mother.
597
00:32:21,221 --> 00:32:24,451
- He said to me after she was gone
598
00:32:24,451 --> 00:32:27,981
and there was a lot of stuff to clean up,
599
00:32:27,978 --> 00:32:31,688
and he said, "Well, now I can finally,
600
00:32:31,686 --> 00:32:34,356
"now I can finally end it all."
601
00:32:34,363 --> 00:32:36,833
And I looked at him and I said,
602
00:32:36,827 --> 00:32:39,847
"Well, you will promise me
603
00:32:39,845 --> 00:32:43,315
"that you will not go
without saying goodbye."
604
00:32:43,321 --> 00:32:47,091
(waves crashing)
605
00:32:47,086 --> 00:32:50,756
(seagulls chirping)
606
00:32:52,301 --> 00:32:54,311
- [Wally] I remember coming home,
607
00:32:54,307 --> 00:32:56,417
because Thursday night's garbage day
608
00:32:56,418 --> 00:32:57,878
and Friday's recycling day,
609
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,480
and Philip even did that before he left.
610
00:33:00,482 --> 00:33:03,152
He took the recycling
things out to the curb
611
00:33:03,149 --> 00:33:06,059
and I came home that Friday
612
00:33:06,063 --> 00:33:08,423
and they were empty and I said,
613
00:33:08,415 --> 00:33:10,125
"Oh, that's unusual for him not to bring
614
00:33:10,132 --> 00:33:11,702
"the buckets back in."
615
00:33:13,105 --> 00:33:14,345
And when I came in the house
616
00:33:14,353 --> 00:33:16,473
and as soon as she said, "Where's Philip?
617
00:33:16,465 --> 00:33:17,555
"Isn't he with you?"
618
00:33:17,564 --> 00:33:20,784
and I was like, he did it, I knew.
619
00:33:21,787 --> 00:33:24,087
(seagulls crying)
620
00:33:24,089 --> 00:33:28,139
And here's the hard part for me.
621
00:33:28,135 --> 00:33:30,655
I had a feeling it was
going to be in San Francisco
622
00:33:30,662 --> 00:33:33,862
but I said, if he's in San Francisco
623
00:33:33,859 --> 00:33:36,259
and I call the police to stop him,
624
00:33:36,257 --> 00:33:39,137
if I have time yet,
625
00:33:39,140 --> 00:33:41,330
that he's gonna just hang himself
626
00:33:41,327 --> 00:33:44,627
or have the policemen shoot him,
627
00:33:44,631 --> 00:33:47,201
and I said if he's that determined,
628
00:33:47,201 --> 00:33:49,761
I have to let him go,
629
00:33:49,761 --> 00:33:52,031
but when she asked me, I said, "No,
630
00:33:52,033 --> 00:33:55,183
"he's not coming home" and
631
00:33:55,177 --> 00:33:59,187
from the death certificate,
he was already done.
632
00:33:59,185 --> 00:34:00,585
It's just waiting for the policemen
633
00:34:00,593 --> 00:34:02,133
to show up at the door.
634
00:34:02,129 --> 00:34:06,909
(somber ambient music)
635
00:34:19,248 --> 00:34:20,878
- [Voiceover] We just
came around the corner
636
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,340
after snapping a shot of San
Francisco in the backdrop
637
00:34:25,338 --> 00:34:26,428
and he was right there.
638
00:34:26,426 --> 00:34:28,326
- [Voiceover] Yeah, sorta surprised him.
639
00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:29,983
- [Voiceover] Yeah, we startled him.
640
00:34:29,976 --> 00:34:31,396
- [Voiceover] Came up upon him.
641
00:34:31,402 --> 00:34:33,692
- He was taking off his backpack.
642
00:34:33,691 --> 00:34:36,001
In hindsight, he was probably
getting ready to jump,
643
00:34:35,995 --> 00:34:38,795
then put back his
backpack on really quickly
644
00:34:38,795 --> 00:34:41,745
and acted nervous and we interrupted him.
645
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:44,920
We interrupted him from jumping
646
00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:47,856
and you spoke with him
647
00:34:47,859 --> 00:34:50,129
'cause you noticed something odd.
648
00:34:50,125 --> 00:34:51,835
- Yeah, just his whole body language,
649
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:54,329
his whole energy was just a bit off.
650
00:34:54,334 --> 00:34:55,834
He was definitely nervous
651
00:34:55,834 --> 00:34:57,794
and he had a, was shuffling his shoulder
652
00:34:57,786 --> 00:35:00,706
and I initially picked up on that
653
00:35:00,707 --> 00:35:02,727
and said, "Are you okay?
654
00:35:02,734 --> 00:35:04,334
"What's going on?"
655
00:35:04,333 --> 00:35:06,093
And at that point,
656
00:35:06,093 --> 00:35:08,403
he made brief eye contact.
657
00:35:08,397 --> 00:35:09,327
- Well-dressed guy.
658
00:35:09,325 --> 00:35:10,155
- Yeah.
659
00:35:10,157 --> 00:35:12,207
- Brief eye contact,
too, he was very nervous.
660
00:35:12,205 --> 00:35:13,755
He wouldn't look you in
the eye for very long
661
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,500
and just kept darting away, looking away.
662
00:35:18,481 --> 00:35:20,901
And his biggest concern when he ask him,
663
00:35:20,896 --> 00:35:23,046
"Are you all right?"
664
00:35:23,052 --> 00:35:26,292
He said, "It's a long
way down to the water."
665
00:35:26,293 --> 00:35:27,683
- No, he said, "It's a long way down."
666
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:28,979
- "Long way down," right.
667
00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:31,440
- And I didn't know how to quite take that
668
00:35:31,444 --> 00:35:34,744
when I heard him say that,
669
00:35:34,736 --> 00:35:36,716
and I didn't know if
I heard him correctly.
670
00:35:36,715 --> 00:35:37,665
I thought maybe he had meant
671
00:35:37,673 --> 00:35:39,323
it's a long way back to the
other side of the bridge
672
00:35:39,315 --> 00:35:41,425
and here I am thinking,
well, you're three quarters
673
00:35:41,427 --> 00:35:43,657
of the way, you're close,
674
00:35:43,656 --> 00:35:46,176
and, of course, that wasn't the case.
675
00:35:46,184 --> 00:35:47,804
- [Steve] And we didn't see him jump.
676
00:35:47,795 --> 00:35:49,265
Did not see him jump.
677
00:35:54,651 --> 00:35:56,431
(water splashes)
678
00:35:58,096 --> 00:36:00,736
(birds chirping)
679
00:36:04,453 --> 00:36:05,673
- [Wally] For me, he
said he was just gonna
680
00:36:05,669 --> 00:36:08,319
go down so deep that even
if he changed his mind,
681
00:36:08,316 --> 00:36:09,396
he couldn't swim to the top,
682
00:36:09,404 --> 00:36:12,734
but the coroner said
it was over instantly.
683
00:36:12,725 --> 00:36:15,025
(water splashes)
684
00:36:19,914 --> 00:36:23,074
- [Mary] Boy, imagine what
this looks like to people.
685
00:36:23,068 --> 00:36:24,568
They probably look at us and say,
686
00:36:24,571 --> 00:36:26,401
"What kind of mother
and father were they?"
687
00:36:26,404 --> 00:36:28,154
- [Wally] Yeah.
688
00:36:28,148 --> 00:36:30,308
- I wasn't perfect.
689
00:36:30,314 --> 00:36:33,674
But, I mean, I don't think it
was such a terrible mother.
690
00:36:37,293 --> 00:36:40,743
And then I remember Sharon said to me,
691
00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:43,610
"You know, it's not all about you.
692
00:36:43,608 --> 00:36:45,668
"It has nothing to do with you."
693
00:36:49,565 --> 00:36:52,485
- Yeah, I mean, I was raised
in a family, dysfunctional--
694
00:36:52,487 --> 00:36:54,117
- I mean, yeah, so was I.
695
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:56,879
- My father was alcoholic,
hers was alcoholic.
696
00:36:56,882 --> 00:36:58,972
They fought like cats and dogs, you know,
697
00:36:58,967 --> 00:37:02,627
and the abuse and I
should be an alcoholic.
698
00:37:02,629 --> 00:37:04,829
I should be a serial killer, you know.
699
00:37:06,648 --> 00:37:09,718
You think you are
raising your family to be
700
00:37:09,721 --> 00:37:12,341
religious or whatever and
you try and do the best
701
00:37:12,340 --> 00:37:16,580
but you wind up doing more
things that are harmful
702
00:37:16,575 --> 00:37:18,315
and then when you try and fix 'em,
703
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,840
it might be too late.
704
00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:25,483
And it's like, well, no matter
what you do good or bad,
705
00:37:25,478 --> 00:37:27,198
things are gonna happen.
706
00:37:29,070 --> 00:37:32,570
And he said, "If you and Mom, who I love,
707
00:37:32,568 --> 00:37:33,828
"are having problems,
708
00:37:33,827 --> 00:37:36,357
"what hope is there for me?"
709
00:37:36,363 --> 00:37:38,423
He says, "I think you love me the most
710
00:37:38,421 --> 00:37:40,911
"and tried your best," and he said,
711
00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:43,310
"If you're having problems,
712
00:37:43,307 --> 00:37:45,527
"there's no way I can make it."
713
00:37:48,512 --> 00:37:53,512
(sad ambient music)
714
00:37:55,283 --> 00:37:57,033
- Yeah.
715
00:37:57,033 --> 00:37:59,493
Took a lot of pictures
while he was on the bridge.
716
00:37:59,493 --> 00:38:00,783
- Yeah.
717
00:38:02,755 --> 00:38:05,665
- He wanted to show what he was seeing.
718
00:38:06,777 --> 00:38:08,327
What he was feeling.
719
00:38:08,332 --> 00:38:13,122
(sad ambient music)
720
00:38:15,584 --> 00:38:20,584
(tense ambient music)
721
00:38:55,418 --> 00:39:00,418
(jittery, playful orchestral music)
722
00:39:47,912 --> 00:39:52,912
(graceful orchestral music)
723
00:40:23,357 --> 00:40:26,097
- I was taking pictures
of Alcatraz at the time,
724
00:40:26,098 --> 00:40:27,578
and while I was taking the picture,
725
00:40:27,581 --> 00:40:29,261
I saw like out of the corner of my eye
726
00:40:29,255 --> 00:40:33,355
a girl walking by and she
climbed over the rail,
727
00:40:33,364 --> 00:40:35,004
and she did it so smoothly.
728
00:40:35,004 --> 00:40:37,234
It was almost like she
was going to a little,
729
00:40:37,231 --> 00:40:39,491
like she had her own little clubhouse.
730
00:40:39,489 --> 00:40:40,769
I don't know, like she was going to
731
00:40:40,769 --> 00:40:43,299
sit on the ledge to like eat lunch.
732
00:40:46,406 --> 00:40:50,206
So I got a couple pictures
of her climbing over,
733
00:40:50,214 --> 00:40:51,614
and then I started taking pictures
734
00:40:51,611 --> 00:40:54,141
of her standing on a
ledge and I realized that
735
00:40:54,139 --> 00:40:56,949
this girl's about to jump,
736
00:40:56,953 --> 00:40:58,833
but when I was behind the camera,
737
00:40:58,834 --> 00:41:00,624
it was almost like it wasn't real
738
00:41:00,622 --> 00:41:02,772
'cause I was looking through the lens.
739
00:41:04,979 --> 00:41:08,409
I was actually like, I guess
I was waiting for her to jump
740
00:41:08,413 --> 00:41:10,093
'cause I thought there's nothing I can do.
741
00:41:10,088 --> 00:41:11,388
It was too late.
742
00:41:16,688 --> 00:41:18,498
Earlier, I was actually staring down
743
00:41:18,501 --> 00:41:20,881
at the ledge at a couple
different points on the bridge
744
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,640
and I was just trying to think to myself
745
00:41:23,642 --> 00:41:25,922
what goes through people's minds
746
00:41:25,918 --> 00:41:27,198
whenever they're standing on that ledge
747
00:41:27,202 --> 00:41:28,692
and they're about to jump off,
748
00:41:28,685 --> 00:41:31,325
like what's the last thing
that they're thinking of?
749
00:41:31,330 --> 00:41:33,100
Or, like, are they
thinking anything at all?
750
00:41:33,101 --> 00:41:35,671
They just had enough and they just go
751
00:41:35,671 --> 00:41:38,771
and that's it, they're gone.
752
00:41:46,209 --> 00:41:48,559
I started yelling out to the girl,
753
00:41:48,558 --> 00:41:50,898
asking her what was wrong.
754
00:41:50,898 --> 00:41:53,908
She seemed to be speaking
in a different language,
755
00:41:53,909 --> 00:41:55,789
and basically like tuning me out,
756
00:41:55,791 --> 00:41:59,111
like really not thinking
about what I was saying.
757
00:42:00,596 --> 00:42:04,436
So I got up on the rail and I reached out
758
00:42:04,443 --> 00:42:06,343
and I really didn't
know I was gonna be able
759
00:42:06,336 --> 00:42:07,906
to grab the back of her jacket,
760
00:42:07,914 --> 00:42:12,234
but once I grabbed it, I
just lifted her over the rail
761
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:14,320
and got her down on the ground.
762
00:42:14,322 --> 00:42:16,812
She started to fight me a little bit,
763
00:42:16,806 --> 00:42:21,326
so I just sat on her
chest and just called 911
764
00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:24,250
and they were probably there
within a couple minutes.
765
00:42:30,211 --> 00:42:32,721
As crazy as it sounds,
I think of myself like
766
00:42:32,717 --> 00:42:36,247
a National Geographic
photographer must feel
767
00:42:36,246 --> 00:42:38,476
and he's behind the camera filming
768
00:42:38,475 --> 00:42:40,985
and there's like a big
tiger that's running at him
769
00:42:40,988 --> 00:42:43,208
and he's like, you know,
"This footage is so great."
770
00:42:43,208 --> 00:42:46,768
He forgets that in a couple seconds
771
00:42:46,767 --> 00:42:49,527
that tiger's gonna be on top of him,
772
00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:53,160
but it's like you're in that
camera, you're just behind
773
00:42:53,164 --> 00:42:55,444
and you don't really think
about what's going on
774
00:42:55,439 --> 00:42:57,579
and that's where I had to separate
775
00:42:57,580 --> 00:43:00,860
or I had to actually get
out of that mode of thinking
776
00:43:00,855 --> 00:43:04,865
and actually act on it and
do something to help her.
777
00:43:08,214 --> 00:43:09,974
After I left the bridge patrol,
778
00:43:09,974 --> 00:43:12,284
I was going back to my vehicle
779
00:43:12,278 --> 00:43:13,958
and I happened to look over
780
00:43:13,956 --> 00:43:16,246
and it kinda looked like she turned back
781
00:43:16,252 --> 00:43:18,832
and she looked right at me
782
00:43:18,830 --> 00:43:21,580
and it freaked me out for a second.
783
00:43:21,579 --> 00:43:24,999
I just didn't expect her to look back now.
784
00:43:25,004 --> 00:43:27,764
I don't know if she actually saw me and
785
00:43:27,764 --> 00:43:30,454
was thinking, like, this son of a bitch,
786
00:43:30,452 --> 00:43:34,902
you know, I wanted to jump
or whatever it was that
787
00:43:36,244 --> 00:43:38,144
that she was thinking.
788
00:43:41,208 --> 00:43:43,178
I'm sure that in some way
789
00:43:43,181 --> 00:43:44,921
that she did want to be rescued
790
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,570
because if she really
wanted to commit suicide
791
00:43:48,565 --> 00:43:52,255
and just take that
basically ultimate shortcut
792
00:43:52,255 --> 00:43:55,295
to the next level, then she would've just
793
00:43:55,295 --> 00:43:58,405
climbed over and just jumped right off.
794
00:43:58,409 --> 00:44:01,059
So I think that she was sort of
795
00:44:01,055 --> 00:44:03,245
crying out for help there a little bit.
796
00:44:04,604 --> 00:44:06,604
The police did tell me
that she was involved
797
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:09,349
in another incident on the bridge and
798
00:44:09,350 --> 00:44:12,370
they talked her out of it,
799
00:44:12,367 --> 00:44:15,557
and I just hope that she's doing okay.
800
00:44:17,746 --> 00:44:22,746
(somber ambient music)
801
00:44:51,475 --> 00:44:54,535
- Gene had a lot riding
on this relationship
802
00:44:54,539 --> 00:44:56,329
and he wanted to get out of California
803
00:44:56,333 --> 00:44:58,423
and he felt that it was gonna be like
804
00:44:58,424 --> 00:45:02,294
a new beginning and I think he had
805
00:45:02,289 --> 00:45:05,649
it planned out in his head
how it was gonna happen
806
00:45:05,651 --> 00:45:06,741
and then when he got there,
807
00:45:06,735 --> 00:45:08,955
the reality wasn't quite the same
808
00:45:08,964 --> 00:45:10,504
as what was in his head.
809
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:13,320
- Yeah, I think he was chasing
810
00:45:13,323 --> 00:45:15,773
a certain magical wonderland
811
00:45:15,769 --> 00:45:17,649
that would make all his problems go away
812
00:45:17,646 --> 00:45:21,476
and making excuses as to why
he couldn't find it here,
813
00:45:21,475 --> 00:45:23,815
expecting to find it somewhere else.
814
00:45:23,822 --> 00:45:25,972
He just wanted to make it happen so bad
815
00:45:25,966 --> 00:45:28,036
so that's why he went in St. Louis.
816
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,260
- Only love, really love,
817
00:45:34,256 --> 00:45:37,336
feeling like he was loved and in love
818
00:45:37,338 --> 00:45:38,998
was gonna save him.
819
00:45:42,498 --> 00:45:45,698
And who's to say that this
is not a genetic thing?
820
00:45:45,697 --> 00:45:47,627
Who's to say that that wasn't the reason
821
00:45:47,628 --> 00:45:49,548
his mother chose to have this child
822
00:45:49,548 --> 00:45:51,758
because she, too, was depressed
823
00:45:51,756 --> 00:45:56,046
and knew that she could keep herself here
824
00:45:56,054 --> 00:45:59,494
and functional if she had a commitment?
825
00:45:59,489 --> 00:46:04,229
And how do we know that it wasn't at some
826
00:46:05,974 --> 00:46:09,964
inner level that he
perceived this very young
827
00:46:09,957 --> 00:46:12,987
and that it colored his needs
828
00:46:12,990 --> 00:46:16,720
to have someone depend on him?
829
00:46:17,826 --> 00:46:19,096
I don't know.
830
00:46:23,334 --> 00:46:28,334
(somber piano music)
831
00:46:30,686 --> 00:46:35,686
(children shouting)
832
00:46:49,597 --> 00:46:53,037
(dog pants)
833
00:46:57,648 --> 00:46:59,318
- The ideas of suicide,
834
00:46:59,322 --> 00:47:02,162
if I'm completely honest with myself,
835
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,390
have been there for a long, long time.
836
00:47:04,389 --> 00:47:07,179
Years, way before I was diagnosed,
837
00:47:07,181 --> 00:47:08,541
but it was just touching on it,
838
00:47:08,543 --> 00:47:11,313
like, you know, oh, I'll just kill myself.
839
00:47:11,306 --> 00:47:15,226
But the real thought process
of actually going to do it
840
00:47:15,226 --> 00:47:19,156
and commit the act started
841
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:21,669
I'd say about '99
842
00:47:21,665 --> 00:47:24,515
and that's when I cut my wrist.
843
00:47:24,524 --> 00:47:26,934
- At the end of his junior
year in high school,
844
00:47:26,932 --> 00:47:29,182
he had huge mood swings,
845
00:47:29,183 --> 00:47:32,553
and during his senior year,
846
00:47:32,553 --> 00:47:36,523
they were just compelling.
847
00:47:36,521 --> 00:47:38,961
I mean, he was constantly
848
00:47:38,964 --> 00:47:41,554
either very high or very low.
849
00:47:41,554 --> 00:47:43,234
That was really the fight.
850
00:47:43,228 --> 00:47:45,268
That's when Kevin was at his worst.
851
00:47:45,274 --> 00:47:47,964
There were times where
he couldn't even speak
852
00:47:47,962 --> 00:47:51,452
and there were times where
he wouldn't stop speaking.
853
00:47:51,447 --> 00:47:52,767
- I was hallucinating
854
00:47:52,769 --> 00:47:56,509
and I had made the assumption that
855
00:47:58,327 --> 00:48:00,917
there were bugs in my bed and stuff
856
00:48:00,923 --> 00:48:03,203
and they were like stuff
that were giving me AIDS
857
00:48:03,195 --> 00:48:04,845
and stuff like that
858
00:48:04,848 --> 00:48:08,558
and I was just completely off the wall.
859
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,440
I hadn't been sexually active for years,
860
00:48:11,444 --> 00:48:15,574
yet I thought I had AIDS and it was like
861
00:48:15,568 --> 00:48:18,638
it was all in my head and
862
00:48:18,635 --> 00:48:21,755
I sprayed my bed sheets
with a disinfectant,
863
00:48:21,755 --> 00:48:24,205
like a deodorizer or something like that
864
00:48:24,207 --> 00:48:25,867
but I sprayed my bed sheets, you know,
865
00:48:25,873 --> 00:48:28,593
I sleep in that, I
inhaled in all night long,
866
00:48:28,592 --> 00:48:29,682
which caused the hallucinations
867
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,720
to become greater and greater
868
00:48:31,723 --> 00:48:36,293
and so I got up out of
bed, sat at my desk,
869
00:48:36,293 --> 00:48:41,143
and I must have written five
versions of my suicide letter
870
00:48:41,139 --> 00:48:43,349
until I realized these are mean,
871
00:48:43,346 --> 00:48:45,536
I can't write them like this,
so I wrote a real nice one
872
00:48:45,544 --> 00:48:47,014
or so my thought was nice, I mean,
873
00:48:47,013 --> 00:48:49,283
it's a suicide letter, you know,
874
00:48:49,277 --> 00:48:53,517
and I guess it said something like,
875
00:48:53,523 --> 00:48:55,833
"Mom, you're not always right.
876
00:48:55,831 --> 00:48:57,641
"Don't think you are, but I love you.
877
00:48:57,644 --> 00:48:59,484
"Dad, stop being so mean.
878
00:48:59,479 --> 00:49:00,989
"You're hurting people."
879
00:49:00,993 --> 00:49:03,853
- He had a terrible episode and
880
00:49:05,313 --> 00:49:10,183
there was no comment
with regard to suicide.
881
00:49:10,182 --> 00:49:13,622
It was a commentary with regard to
882
00:49:13,622 --> 00:49:17,732
hearing voices and difficulty
883
00:49:17,734 --> 00:49:21,974
remaining under control,
884
00:49:21,974 --> 00:49:24,654
and I called his psychiatrist
885
00:49:24,654 --> 00:49:29,344
the Sunday night prior and
had a conversation with him
886
00:49:29,338 --> 00:49:30,858
and the psychiatrist told me,
887
00:49:30,856 --> 00:49:31,836
"No, don't worry about it.
888
00:49:31,837 --> 00:49:34,987
"Everything's gonna be fine."
889
00:49:34,989 --> 00:49:36,569
And then Kevin and I stayed up
890
00:49:36,573 --> 00:49:39,453
and we chatted about
it and he seemed to be
891
00:49:39,453 --> 00:49:42,353
fine, almost completely calmed.
892
00:49:42,354 --> 00:49:44,744
- Our conversations go like
this when he's mad at me.
893
00:49:44,743 --> 00:49:47,863
He tells me to sit down in my chair
894
00:49:47,855 --> 00:49:49,875
and he basically yells at me.
895
00:49:54,337 --> 00:49:57,677
I told him that I don't wanna, I said,
896
00:49:59,407 --> 00:50:01,217
"I don't wanna hurt anybody anymore.
897
00:50:01,216 --> 00:50:02,516
"I have to go away."
898
00:50:02,517 --> 00:50:04,097
Or something like that, and he said,
899
00:50:04,096 --> 00:50:05,256
"You have an obligation
900
00:50:05,258 --> 00:50:06,818
"to stay here for your family.
901
00:50:06,815 --> 00:50:08,225
"You have an obligation to me
902
00:50:08,234 --> 00:50:11,034
"who raised you, given
you everything you want.
903
00:50:11,025 --> 00:50:11,725
"You have an obligation
904
00:50:11,733 --> 00:50:13,233
"to live for your brother, your sister,"
905
00:50:13,226 --> 00:50:14,936
but he was mad the whole time.
906
00:50:14,938 --> 00:50:15,818
So I said, "All right,
all right, all right,
907
00:50:15,818 --> 00:50:17,028
"I'm not gonna do anything, Dad.
908
00:50:17,034 --> 00:50:18,224
"Don't worry, don't worry."
909
00:50:18,217 --> 00:50:19,397
And he was like, "Do I have
to take you to the hospital?"
910
00:50:19,401 --> 00:50:20,841
You know, or something like that.
911
00:50:20,843 --> 00:50:22,083
I was like, "No, no, no, no,
912
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:23,599
"it's all right, it's all right."
913
00:50:23,604 --> 00:50:24,444
I said, "Let me just sleep on it
914
00:50:24,436 --> 00:50:26,036
"and we'll talk about
it in the morning, okay?
915
00:50:26,036 --> 00:50:28,356
"I'm really tired, Dad, I'm really tired."
916
00:50:28,361 --> 00:50:30,691
So he woke me up the next morning
917
00:50:30,686 --> 00:50:34,426
about 7 o'clock 'cause I got
maybe like two hours of sleep,
918
00:50:34,430 --> 00:50:36,840
and he woke me up and he said,
919
00:50:36,842 --> 00:50:39,442
"Hey, you're coming to work with me."
920
00:50:39,443 --> 00:50:40,543
I was like, "No."
921
00:50:40,541 --> 00:50:42,421
He's like, "No, come on,
I'm worried about you.
922
00:50:42,419 --> 00:50:43,249
"I'm really worried about you."
923
00:50:43,251 --> 00:50:45,361
I was like, "Dad, I'm fine,"
924
00:50:45,362 --> 00:50:47,352
the entire time lying through my teeth
925
00:50:47,350 --> 00:50:49,360
because I knew I was gonna
go to the bridge and jump.
926
00:50:49,362 --> 00:50:53,072
(tense ambient music)
927
00:50:54,767 --> 00:50:56,947
- [Pat] So, listen, why
don't I take the day off?
928
00:50:56,953 --> 00:51:00,113
And we'll go do something
and he said, "Nope.
929
00:51:00,105 --> 00:51:01,695
"I'd rather go to school."
930
00:51:03,564 --> 00:51:05,824
- I kiss him goodbye on the cheek
931
00:51:05,815 --> 00:51:07,295
and I was like, all right,
this is the last time
932
00:51:07,298 --> 00:51:09,878
I'm ever gonna kiss my
daddy goodbye, you know.
933
00:51:09,876 --> 00:51:11,866
I'll never see him again.
934
00:51:11,871 --> 00:51:14,341
And he'll never see me.
935
00:51:14,335 --> 00:51:16,145
And I went to my English class,
936
00:51:16,148 --> 00:51:17,648
dropped all my other classes.
937
00:51:17,652 --> 00:51:21,402
I took the K out to the 28 to
the 29th out to the bridge,
938
00:51:21,403 --> 00:51:24,773
and the whole time I was
just bawling my eyes out,
939
00:51:24,774 --> 00:51:27,094
just crying,
940
00:51:27,088 --> 00:51:28,848
talking to myself on the bus.
941
00:51:31,427 --> 00:51:33,417
I had stopped, before I got on the 28,
942
00:51:33,422 --> 00:51:34,882
I had stopped at Walgreens
943
00:51:34,883 --> 00:51:37,073
and I bought my last meal,
944
00:51:37,070 --> 00:51:39,800
Starburst and Skittles.
945
00:51:41,622 --> 00:51:42,702
And
946
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,100
went out to the bridge.
947
00:51:48,043 --> 00:51:49,853
Found a place that I thought, all right,
948
00:51:49,853 --> 00:51:51,993
it's not too close to the
pillar, I won't hit the pillar,
949
00:51:51,989 --> 00:51:53,149
I'll just hit the water.
950
00:51:53,152 --> 00:51:54,932
I'll either drown or die on impact
951
00:51:54,933 --> 00:51:57,063
or I'll have a heart attack.
952
00:51:57,064 --> 00:52:00,144
So I got there,
953
00:52:00,135 --> 00:52:03,325
stood there for like 40
minutes at that spot,
954
00:52:03,326 --> 00:52:05,536
just crying my eyes out.
955
00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:07,930
Joggers, bikers, runners,
tourists, whatever
956
00:52:07,929 --> 00:52:09,979
running by and walking by
957
00:52:09,975 --> 00:52:12,495
looking at me, didn't say anything.
958
00:52:12,502 --> 00:52:15,562
It's not their part, it's not
their problem, but anyway,
959
00:52:15,564 --> 00:52:18,704
and this woman, she came up to me.
960
00:52:18,699 --> 00:52:19,999
She said in a German accent,
961
00:52:20,001 --> 00:52:20,871
I think it was a German accent,
962
00:52:20,865 --> 00:52:23,595
she said, "Will you take my picture?"
963
00:52:25,267 --> 00:52:26,937
I was like, your picture?
964
00:52:26,941 --> 00:52:28,151
I mean, I'm gonna kill myself,
965
00:52:28,147 --> 00:52:30,507
what is wrong with you?
966
00:52:30,514 --> 00:52:32,134
Can't you see the tears
pouring out of my face?
967
00:52:32,125 --> 00:52:33,725
But she couldn't.
968
00:52:33,725 --> 00:52:35,715
She was on her own hype.
969
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,079
So I took the camera, I took her picture,
970
00:52:38,083 --> 00:52:40,503
said, "Miss, have a nice day,"
971
00:52:40,504 --> 00:52:42,504
turned back to the traffic,
972
00:52:42,499 --> 00:52:45,219
turned to the bay, said,
"Fuck it, nobody cares."
973
00:52:45,220 --> 00:52:46,640
Pardon my French.
974
00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:48,859
And I hurled over the bridge.
975
00:52:48,856 --> 00:52:53,576
(waves splashing)
976
00:53:08,834 --> 00:53:10,834
See, what most people do, apparently,
977
00:53:10,828 --> 00:53:13,078
is they get on the ledge
outside of the bridge
978
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:14,619
and they stand there.
979
00:53:14,615 --> 00:53:15,495
People can talk them out of it
980
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:17,470
or pull them up or whatever.
981
00:53:17,473 --> 00:53:20,003
I didn't want anybody
to talk me out of it.
982
00:53:20,001 --> 00:53:21,881
I just wanted to die.
983
00:53:21,878 --> 00:53:24,928
So I hurtled over the
railing with my hands
984
00:53:24,929 --> 00:53:26,669
and I was falling headfirst
985
00:53:26,667 --> 00:53:31,327
and the second my hands
left the bar or the railing,
986
00:53:31,328 --> 00:53:33,218
I said, "I don't wanna die."
987
00:53:33,216 --> 00:53:34,656
I said, "What am I gonna do?
988
00:53:34,656 --> 00:53:35,926
"This is like, this is it.
989
00:53:35,926 --> 00:53:36,986
"I'm dead."
990
00:53:37,971 --> 00:53:41,221
So I said, "Well, maybe
if I get feet first,
991
00:53:41,224 --> 00:53:43,314
"maybe, maybe I'll live."
992
00:53:43,314 --> 00:53:44,424
So I thought,
993
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:48,719
"All right, it's worth a shot."
994
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,139
So my head was falling like this,
995
00:53:50,138 --> 00:53:51,578
and I pushed myself back somehow
996
00:53:51,577 --> 00:53:54,397
and I landed literally
like I was sitting down,
997
00:53:54,397 --> 00:53:58,377
kinda maybe a little more
elevated with the legs,
998
00:53:58,375 --> 00:54:01,755
and I hit with my feet,
999
00:54:01,756 --> 00:54:04,376
and I guess the water treaded
through my boots a little bit,
1000
00:54:04,377 --> 00:54:06,487
so maybe helped the impact,
1001
00:54:06,489 --> 00:54:08,699
and the boots are pretty tough so,
1002
00:54:08,697 --> 00:54:12,437
and I went down about I'd say 40, 50 feet.
1003
00:54:14,164 --> 00:54:16,224
Didn't know which way was up or down.
1004
00:54:16,221 --> 00:54:18,851
I thought, "Am I still alive?"
1005
00:54:18,845 --> 00:54:22,115
'Cause it's like a four
to seven second fall.
1006
00:54:22,122 --> 00:54:25,402
It's like 120 miles per hour.
1007
00:54:27,231 --> 00:54:30,411
I think that's like seven
seconds below terminal velocity
1008
00:54:30,410 --> 00:54:33,880
or like the velocity downslope skiers get.
1009
00:54:38,146 --> 00:54:39,726
I was awake.
1010
00:54:39,732 --> 00:54:41,652
I was alive.
1011
00:54:41,652 --> 00:54:43,542
I was swimming my butt
off to get somewhere
1012
00:54:43,540 --> 00:54:45,580
where there was air.
1013
00:54:45,577 --> 00:54:47,527
So I reached the surface, I guess,
1014
00:54:47,529 --> 00:54:50,149
because I saw some sort of light,
1015
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:51,430
and I was screaming for help
1016
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:52,290
and I couldn't really scream.
1017
00:54:52,294 --> 00:54:53,294
My voice was gone.
1018
00:54:53,286 --> 00:54:54,976
I couldn't yell.
1019
00:54:54,982 --> 00:54:56,862
I was like, "Help.
1020
00:54:56,859 --> 00:54:57,789
"Help me."
1021
00:54:59,534 --> 00:55:04,434
And I felt something brush by my leg.
1022
00:55:04,429 --> 00:55:06,679
I was like, "Oh, great.
1023
00:55:06,677 --> 00:55:08,807
"I didn't die jumping off
the Golden Gate Bridge.
1024
00:55:08,810 --> 00:55:10,950
"A shark is going to eat me."
1025
00:55:10,953 --> 00:55:13,553
I was like, "This is ridiculous."
1026
00:55:13,549 --> 00:55:15,389
Years later, I found out,
1027
00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:16,570
as a matter of fact, last year I found out
1028
00:55:16,574 --> 00:55:18,374
it wasn't a shark.
1029
00:55:18,366 --> 00:55:19,726
It was a seal circling me
1030
00:55:19,731 --> 00:55:23,521
and apparently it was the
only thing keeping me afloat.
1031
00:55:23,518 --> 00:55:26,788
And you cannot tell me that wasn't God
1032
00:55:26,792 --> 00:55:28,282
'cause that's what I believe
1033
00:55:28,275 --> 00:55:30,315
and that's what I'll
believe till the day I die.
1034
00:55:34,190 --> 00:55:39,130
(soft ambient music)
1035
00:55:45,065 --> 00:55:49,495
(seagulls cawing)
1036
00:55:53,334 --> 00:55:55,504
- [Pat] I was sitting my office
1037
00:55:55,499 --> 00:55:58,699
and a secretary
1038
00:55:58,702 --> 00:56:02,482
said that, "There's
someone on the line for you
1039
00:56:02,476 --> 00:56:04,736
"from Marin General Hospital."
1040
00:56:06,291 --> 00:56:09,371
So I picked up the phone and a woman said,
1041
00:56:09,373 --> 00:56:11,113
"Is this Pat Hines?"
1042
00:56:11,112 --> 00:56:12,352
I said, "Yes."
1043
00:56:12,349 --> 00:56:14,499
She said, "Your son has just jumped
1044
00:56:14,503 --> 00:56:16,683
"from the Golden Gate Bridge."
1045
00:56:18,425 --> 00:56:20,675
I lived here all my life.
1046
00:56:20,676 --> 00:56:23,176
I know what that means,
1047
00:56:23,183 --> 00:56:26,463
and I said, "Is he alive?"
1048
00:56:26,455 --> 00:56:29,685
And she said, "Oh, he is."
1049
00:56:29,686 --> 00:56:32,026
And I thought
1050
00:56:32,033 --> 00:56:36,043
that they probably told me
that just to keep me calm
1051
00:56:36,043 --> 00:56:39,203
so that I wouldn't wreck my car
1052
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,430
driving over to see his mangled body.
1053
00:56:42,432 --> 00:56:47,132
(gentle ambient music)
1054
00:56:57,747 --> 00:57:01,267
(water splashes)
1055
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:10,619
- I shattered my T12 and my L1,
1056
00:57:10,618 --> 00:57:13,658
which is my lower lumbar region
1057
00:57:13,658 --> 00:57:16,488
into very, very tiny little pieces
1058
00:57:16,485 --> 00:57:19,785
and the pieces went into my organs,
1059
00:57:19,790 --> 00:57:21,410
but they missed my heart.
1060
00:57:21,410 --> 00:57:24,570
- At this point in time, I
still thought he would be dead.
1061
00:57:24,567 --> 00:57:27,747
So I went up to this
gurney and I looked down
1062
00:57:27,746 --> 00:57:30,736
and he was wide awake
and he looked up at me
1063
00:57:30,743 --> 00:57:34,383
and he said, "I'm sorry."
1064
00:57:34,379 --> 00:57:38,269
And then he just closed his eyes and
1065
00:57:38,265 --> 00:57:39,865
I just stood there staring at him
1066
00:57:39,873 --> 00:57:43,373
and he was, by that
point in time, in a coma.
1067
00:57:45,352 --> 00:57:47,172
- It was just super scary, you know?
1068
00:57:47,166 --> 00:57:49,556
I mean, I can't explain it.
1069
00:57:51,655 --> 00:57:53,285
To feel it would be like...
1070
00:57:55,667 --> 00:57:58,327
like feeling an alien
jumping out of your body
1071
00:57:58,333 --> 00:57:59,433
or something, you know,
1072
00:57:59,432 --> 00:58:01,292
like your soul or whatever.
1073
00:58:01,288 --> 00:58:05,938
It was ridiculous,
scary, just really wild.
1074
00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:13,039
(people chattering)
1075
00:58:18,579 --> 00:58:21,779
(metal stand rattling)
1076
00:58:21,776 --> 00:58:25,816
- 2004 was a tough year for Kevin.
1077
00:58:25,819 --> 00:58:27,439
It hasn't been a cakewalk.
1078
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,130
Kevin's been visited by
1079
00:58:30,128 --> 00:58:33,848
extreme mental illness
three times subsequent
1080
00:58:33,849 --> 00:58:36,499
to his jump off the bridge.
1081
00:58:36,495 --> 00:58:38,645
The most recent, he was confined
1082
00:58:38,650 --> 00:58:40,860
for almost three months
1083
00:58:40,858 --> 00:58:44,388
while he struggled and
his doctors struggled
1084
00:58:44,388 --> 00:58:48,408
to get his bipolar bracketed in,
1085
00:58:48,409 --> 00:58:51,029
and it's a matter of diet,
1086
00:58:51,033 --> 00:58:52,383
it's a matter of consistency,
1087
00:58:52,377 --> 00:58:56,047
and it's a matter of proper drug therapy.
1088
00:58:56,047 --> 00:59:00,037
Kevin will begin to
1089
00:59:00,038 --> 00:59:01,688
make headway.
1090
00:59:01,692 --> 00:59:03,272
His life will gain traction,
1091
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:06,390
and then he begins to get
outside of the brackets
1092
00:59:06,385 --> 00:59:08,745
into which he can function,
1093
00:59:08,752 --> 00:59:13,492
and unfortunately, it
has taken three times now
1094
00:59:13,485 --> 00:59:17,785
outside, in those outside
areas to convince him,
1095
00:59:17,793 --> 00:59:19,553
prove to him more importantly,
1096
00:59:19,553 --> 00:59:21,133
that he can't go there,
1097
00:59:21,132 --> 00:59:24,682
and unfortunately for Kevin,
1098
00:59:24,684 --> 00:59:26,804
it's get up at 8 o'clock in the morning,
1099
00:59:26,795 --> 00:59:29,815
take your pills at eight,
have lunch at noon,
1100
00:59:29,823 --> 00:59:34,143
if you will, dinner at six,
1101
00:59:34,142 --> 00:59:36,952
pills at nine, bed at 10,
1102
00:59:36,947 --> 00:59:39,447
and that's a very, very
difficult existence
1103
00:59:39,454 --> 00:59:43,484
for a 24 year old male in this society.
1104
00:59:43,475 --> 00:59:48,155
(seagulls chirping)
(people chattering)
1105
00:59:52,301 --> 00:59:53,921
But I've told him,
1106
00:59:53,922 --> 00:59:55,692
"It's a wonderful disease to have, Kev,
1107
00:59:55,694 --> 00:59:57,514
"because you can control it.
1108
00:59:57,507 --> 00:59:59,537
"If you had cancer,
1109
00:59:59,544 --> 01:00:01,474
"you wouldn't have the same opportunity.
1110
01:00:01,474 --> 01:00:03,704
"Unlike cancer, Kevin, as long as you stay
1111
01:00:03,704 --> 01:00:05,684
"within these bands, you've got it.
1112
01:00:05,677 --> 01:00:07,017
"It doesn't have you."
1113
01:00:07,021 --> 01:00:08,051
- It's funny, my family members
1114
01:00:08,045 --> 01:00:10,385
still think I haven't learned my lesson,
1115
01:00:10,391 --> 01:00:13,241
but the lesson was
learned a long time ago,
1116
01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:16,439
and, you know,
1117
01:00:18,065 --> 01:00:19,405
it's hard when
1118
01:00:20,860 --> 01:00:23,370
you keep messing up,
1119
01:00:23,366 --> 01:00:26,776
and no one in your family
believes in you anymore
1120
01:00:26,777 --> 01:00:28,847
or trusts you,
1121
01:00:28,846 --> 01:00:31,206
whether they're scared
you're gonna go attempt again
1122
01:00:31,214 --> 01:00:33,274
and they're always worried,
walking on eggshells
1123
01:00:33,273 --> 01:00:36,133
when they talk to you.
1124
01:00:36,129 --> 01:00:38,059
It sucks.
1125
01:00:38,059 --> 01:00:38,929
So I'm tired of that.
1126
01:00:38,934 --> 01:00:39,844
I just want them to say,
1127
01:00:39,841 --> 01:00:41,631
"Hey, Kev, what's cracking, man?"
1128
01:00:43,963 --> 01:00:45,773
Just be real about it.
1129
01:00:45,771 --> 01:00:48,451
Don't walk on eggshells around me.
1130
01:00:48,448 --> 01:00:50,698
I'm the same guy,
1131
01:00:50,699 --> 01:00:55,159
just different soul, you know,
1132
01:00:55,157 --> 01:00:56,667
different ideals.
1133
01:01:02,064 --> 01:01:03,064
(Kevin sighs)
1134
01:01:04,424 --> 01:01:07,764
I just wanna be normal again,
1135
01:01:07,762 --> 01:01:09,352
but I never will be.
1136
01:01:12,359 --> 01:01:17,219
(eerie ambient music)
1137
01:01:48,266 --> 01:01:50,546
- [Voiceover] We started
using crystal meth,
1138
01:01:50,549 --> 01:01:54,259
and, you know, using crystal just,
1139
01:01:54,261 --> 01:01:57,241
everything starting going down the toilet.
1140
01:01:57,236 --> 01:02:00,156
She lost her job, I lost my job.
1141
01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:02,099
We ended up becoming homeless.
1142
01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:09,679
She has a little easier time
letting go of drugs than I do.
1143
01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:12,599
I have a very addictive personality,
1144
01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:13,439
and
1145
01:02:15,148 --> 01:02:16,678
just found out last week
1146
01:02:16,684 --> 01:02:19,654
that she's been cheating on me again.
1147
01:02:25,366 --> 01:02:26,526
So I picked up my son.
1148
01:02:26,529 --> 01:02:29,939
I gave him a hug and
kiss and said goodbye,
1149
01:02:29,942 --> 01:02:32,142
and told her to F off.
1150
01:02:33,862 --> 01:02:36,202
And then I found myself just walking
1151
01:02:36,195 --> 01:02:39,075
toward the Golden Gate Bridge.
1152
01:02:39,075 --> 01:02:41,365
I was crying the whole way, you know.
1153
01:02:42,753 --> 01:02:46,833
Only thing I kept saying was, you know,
1154
01:02:46,827 --> 01:02:50,237
"As I walk in the valley
of the shadow of death,
1155
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,180
"I shall not fear a thing
'cause God's with me."
1156
01:02:56,719 --> 01:02:58,549
So when I got to the
halfway point on the bridge,
1157
01:02:58,554 --> 01:03:02,324
I set my book down and I
jumped over onto the railing.
1158
01:03:07,572 --> 01:03:11,782
And I just sat there, crying
and thinking for a little bit,
1159
01:03:11,775 --> 01:03:14,305
and the cops showed up.
1160
01:03:14,313 --> 01:03:16,513
I made the mistake of letting them
1161
01:03:16,510 --> 01:03:18,630
get to know me too well
1162
01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:21,970
'cause they completely
used my son against me.
1163
01:03:29,219 --> 01:03:31,419
- Actually, I came to the bridge last year
1164
01:03:31,418 --> 01:03:34,438
at this time to do the same thing
1165
01:03:34,442 --> 01:03:36,652
and so it's not a new idea,
1166
01:03:36,650 --> 01:03:41,010
but kind of one that became a
little obsessive, I suppose.
1167
01:03:44,626 --> 01:03:47,616
How I literally got here
today was on an airplane
1168
01:03:47,623 --> 01:03:51,383
(laughs) from Houston, Texas.
1169
01:03:51,381 --> 01:03:53,601
What drew me to it in spite of
1170
01:03:53,596 --> 01:03:56,036
having to do so much preparations is that
1171
01:03:56,037 --> 01:03:58,577
it is so accessible.
1172
01:03:58,577 --> 01:04:01,327
You just kinda hop over.
1173
01:04:01,325 --> 01:04:03,825
But, yeah, letting go,
that's the tough part.
1174
01:04:03,832 --> 01:04:08,832
(soft ambient music)
1175
01:04:11,818 --> 01:04:13,438
I don't know if people
think about that a lot,
1176
01:04:13,439 --> 01:04:15,959
like the process that
a person goes through
1177
01:04:15,957 --> 01:04:19,057
in trying to decide how to end their life.
1178
01:04:19,058 --> 01:04:21,188
It's like a search, it's like looking for
1179
01:04:21,191 --> 01:04:22,911
a college to attend or something,
1180
01:04:22,909 --> 01:04:25,119
you know, the pros and cons and
1181
01:04:25,124 --> 01:04:26,394
it's a destructive act, but there's
1182
01:04:26,394 --> 01:04:29,294
a lot of rational thought
that goes into an act
1183
01:04:29,292 --> 01:04:32,202
that a lot of people
just consider irrational.
1184
01:04:35,665 --> 01:04:38,635
In my bag, I had my parents' phone number
1185
01:04:38,641 --> 01:04:40,081
and I wanted them to know what happened
1186
01:04:40,081 --> 01:04:42,641
and not just be agonizing
over what happened
1187
01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:45,919
to their daughter for a week or two.
1188
01:04:45,917 --> 01:04:48,387
So I wanted people just
see me actually do it,
1189
01:04:48,391 --> 01:04:51,341
and I think I really did
want somebody to say, "No,
1190
01:04:51,342 --> 01:04:52,542
"don't do it."
1191
01:05:07,509 --> 01:05:10,129
- When Gene called me
1192
01:05:10,132 --> 01:05:13,612
from St. Louis in despair
1193
01:05:13,610 --> 01:05:15,980
and was gonna jump off the bridge there,
1194
01:05:15,977 --> 01:05:18,677
he said, "I'm just calling to say goodbye.
1195
01:05:18,676 --> 01:05:20,726
"It's time."
1196
01:05:20,731 --> 01:05:22,741
What could I say to him?
1197
01:05:22,740 --> 01:05:25,450
You know, I had tried
1198
01:05:25,445 --> 01:05:28,555
on occasion to find something
1199
01:05:28,563 --> 01:05:31,383
that would encourage him to live,
1200
01:05:31,376 --> 01:05:33,356
something,
1201
01:05:33,363 --> 01:05:36,323
and I asked him again for a favor.
1202
01:05:36,323 --> 01:05:38,933
I said, "Put my name and phone number
1203
01:05:38,925 --> 01:05:42,065
"in a plastic bag in your pocket
1204
01:05:42,068 --> 01:05:45,298
"so that when you are found,
1205
01:05:45,301 --> 01:05:46,931
"I can be told.
1206
01:05:46,933 --> 01:05:48,243
"I need to know."
1207
01:05:51,802 --> 01:05:55,802
- [Matt] He had called me
from a bridge back there
1208
01:05:55,801 --> 01:05:56,401
and he was--
1209
01:05:56,399 --> 01:05:58,329
- But he called me first
from the train tracks
1210
01:05:58,329 --> 01:06:00,239
saying he was gonna lay his neck
1211
01:06:00,238 --> 01:06:02,268
across the train tracks
and because he said
1212
01:06:02,266 --> 01:06:04,696
things like that all the time,
1213
01:06:04,698 --> 01:06:06,548
I didn't call him back
1214
01:06:06,553 --> 01:06:09,183
because I just didn't want to hear it.
1215
01:06:09,177 --> 01:06:12,137
You can only hear the
same thing so many times
1216
01:06:12,142 --> 01:06:14,562
and give the same answer so many times.
1217
01:06:14,563 --> 01:06:15,793
You know, "Stop being stupid.
1218
01:06:15,789 --> 01:06:17,759
"Don't be ridiculous."
1219
01:06:17,763 --> 01:06:20,603
It gets tiring after awhile.
1220
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,810
You wanna hear something different,
1221
01:06:21,805 --> 01:06:23,375
so I guess when I didn't call him back,
1222
01:06:23,384 --> 01:06:25,044
he went to the bridge.
1223
01:06:25,037 --> 01:06:27,007
- Yeah, he had made his way to a bridge.
1224
01:06:27,010 --> 01:06:28,710
He called me on my cell phone,
1225
01:06:28,707 --> 01:06:31,607
told me this relationship
that he was pursuing
1226
01:06:31,607 --> 01:06:34,247
is all falling apart, so
I kept him on the phone.
1227
01:06:34,252 --> 01:06:35,972
I was talking to him.
1228
01:06:35,970 --> 01:06:37,690
At one point in our conversation,
1229
01:06:37,687 --> 01:06:40,097
he said, "Oh, a cop's driving by."
1230
01:06:40,097 --> 01:06:42,657
And I actually heard the
cop stop and ask him,
1231
01:06:42,659 --> 01:06:45,219
"Hey, you're not gonna jump, are ya?"
1232
01:06:45,215 --> 01:06:47,505
They asked him, "Is everything okay?
1233
01:06:47,508 --> 01:06:48,798
"Any problems?"
1234
01:06:48,801 --> 01:06:50,751
And he's like, "No, not really,"
1235
01:06:50,753 --> 01:06:55,263
and they decided to leave him alone,
1236
01:06:55,262 --> 01:06:57,732
and that's when I said, "Look,
1237
01:06:57,726 --> 01:06:59,956
"I'm gonna get a ticket
for you for the bus,
1238
01:06:59,955 --> 01:07:02,045
"and you're gonna come
back to California,"
1239
01:07:02,046 --> 01:07:04,336
and I convinced him to do that.
1240
01:07:04,339 --> 01:07:09,129
(gentle ambient music)
1241
01:07:17,874 --> 01:07:22,764
(waves crashing)
1242
01:07:39,150 --> 01:07:42,860
- David is very dramatic, boisterous,
1243
01:07:42,862 --> 01:07:44,812
a life of the party type,
1244
01:07:44,814 --> 01:07:47,634
playing the piano, singing,
1245
01:07:47,629 --> 01:07:48,859
you know, really Mr. Party,
1246
01:07:48,864 --> 01:07:50,504
which is very interesting because
1247
01:07:50,496 --> 01:07:52,276
I'm not that way at all,
1248
01:07:52,277 --> 01:07:54,777
and I think part of the reason he liked me
1249
01:07:54,784 --> 01:07:56,554
was that I didn't ask him to do that
1250
01:07:56,554 --> 01:08:00,174
or he didn't feel he had
to do that around me.
1251
01:08:02,243 --> 01:08:04,223
- He was a handsome guy.
1252
01:08:04,216 --> 01:08:06,556
He was a good dresser,
1253
01:08:06,562 --> 01:08:08,612
and he just exuded this,
1254
01:08:08,610 --> 01:08:12,330
which is another reason
why I guess it's so
1255
01:08:12,331 --> 01:08:16,961
shocking to me is that he
just exuded this joy for life.
1256
01:08:16,959 --> 01:08:21,959
(somber ambient music)
1257
01:08:27,673 --> 01:08:31,553
- Ruby was someone that I
was always proud to pull in.
1258
01:08:31,545 --> 01:08:32,565
So when there's somebody new in my life
1259
01:08:32,567 --> 01:08:34,147
or I was dating somebody for awhile,
1260
01:08:34,145 --> 01:08:36,195
I wanna bring 'em over, you know.
1261
01:08:41,791 --> 01:08:44,711
- One of Jim's favorite things
was when he'd see me, said,
1262
01:08:44,713 --> 01:08:45,853
"Oh, I met a new friend.
1263
01:08:45,854 --> 01:08:47,144
"You've got to meet this person.
1264
01:08:47,143 --> 01:08:49,063
"You've just gotta meant this person."
1265
01:08:49,058 --> 01:08:51,618
He had great delight in
bringing people together.
1266
01:08:51,618 --> 01:08:54,708
He really loved people and
1267
01:08:57,142 --> 01:08:59,272
just very warm personality.
1268
01:09:00,411 --> 01:09:03,731
At least that's how he
was in the beginning.
1269
01:09:03,728 --> 01:09:08,328
(somber ambient music)
1270
01:09:14,267 --> 01:09:15,387
(golf club whooshes)
1271
01:09:17,444 --> 01:09:19,304
- Before six months ago, I would
1272
01:09:19,300 --> 01:09:21,510
never have said that I thought Ruby
1273
01:09:21,508 --> 01:09:24,068
had a significant depression problem.
1274
01:09:24,068 --> 01:09:26,268
(birds chirping)
1275
01:09:26,265 --> 01:09:30,105
I know that he was alone
without a source of income.
1276
01:09:30,105 --> 01:09:32,905
I know his sister had killed herself.
1277
01:09:32,910 --> 01:09:36,160
I know he had all those variables.
1278
01:09:36,163 --> 01:09:39,163
Nothing before this last
few months of his life
1279
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,670
indicated to me that
he was out of the range
1280
01:09:41,666 --> 01:09:43,086
of the normal ups and downs
1281
01:09:43,085 --> 01:09:47,465
that we just don't share all the time.
1282
01:09:47,467 --> 01:09:49,477
- David came over to Charlie's
1283
01:09:49,482 --> 01:09:52,062
to have dinner with us
1284
01:09:52,064 --> 01:09:54,374
and that's when he told
us for the first time
1285
01:09:54,367 --> 01:09:56,307
he was seriously on medication,
1286
01:09:56,309 --> 01:09:58,689
but up until that point
1287
01:09:58,689 --> 01:10:01,999
apparently he had been
self-medicating with alcohol
1288
01:10:02,004 --> 01:10:04,774
and although I knew him for nine years,
1289
01:10:06,290 --> 01:10:10,470
I could count on maybe,
1290
01:10:10,474 --> 01:10:13,374
maybe two times that I
see him really drunk.
1291
01:10:16,171 --> 01:10:18,281
- David would, every so often, determine
1292
01:10:18,283 --> 01:10:19,933
that he had to get his life back together
1293
01:10:19,925 --> 01:10:22,935
or he would be confronted
by me or other friends
1294
01:10:22,944 --> 01:10:25,014
and start treatment.
1295
01:10:25,013 --> 01:10:27,913
He took antidepressants for
a month and a half or so
1296
01:10:27,914 --> 01:10:29,694
and made a big show of it,
1297
01:10:29,685 --> 01:10:32,045
but then in the end I arranged a label
1298
01:10:32,053 --> 01:10:34,663
so that I could see if he'd
been picking the bottles up
1299
01:10:34,663 --> 01:10:36,813
and he hadn't touched them.
1300
01:10:36,807 --> 01:10:38,597
Didn't touch them for weeks.
1301
01:10:42,372 --> 01:10:44,592
- So a couple of months before he died,
1302
01:10:44,586 --> 01:10:46,456
Ruby started talking about
1303
01:10:46,457 --> 01:10:49,827
he couldn't get over
his feelings of losses
1304
01:10:49,826 --> 01:10:53,136
and he thought that he might be depressed,
1305
01:10:53,136 --> 01:10:55,266
but he didn't have any health insurance.
1306
01:10:56,522 --> 01:10:59,672
So he said, "I want some meds.
1307
01:10:59,666 --> 01:11:02,386
"Got any ideas how I can get some?"
1308
01:11:02,387 --> 01:11:05,357
And I had tried some antidepressant meds
1309
01:11:05,358 --> 01:11:09,078
that didn't seem to help and
I couldn't sleep on them.
1310
01:11:09,081 --> 01:11:11,521
So I said, "Okay, listen.
1311
01:11:13,454 --> 01:11:14,584
(sighs)
1312
01:11:15,798 --> 01:11:16,868
"Here.
1313
01:11:19,235 --> 01:11:20,645
"You can have mine.
1314
01:11:22,961 --> 01:11:24,771
"But you've gotta call a physician
1315
01:11:24,774 --> 01:11:27,414
"for information on how to take them.
1316
01:11:27,413 --> 01:11:31,313
"I cannot be responsible
for how you take them.
1317
01:11:31,314 --> 01:11:32,984
"But you can have them."
1318
01:11:36,740 --> 01:11:40,500
I was gonna give him
the whole bottle of them
1319
01:11:40,497 --> 01:11:43,037
in the original bottle and I thought,
1320
01:11:45,211 --> 01:11:48,121
what if one day somebody
goes into his apartment
1321
01:11:51,146 --> 01:11:53,956
and is looking through his stuff
1322
01:11:53,959 --> 01:11:57,629
and finds my name on a bottle of meds?
1323
01:11:59,719 --> 01:12:01,879
I took them out and I
put them in an envelope.
1324
01:12:04,313 --> 01:12:06,223
Just a plain envelope.
1325
01:12:12,004 --> 01:12:15,374
- It was around November or the fall
1326
01:12:15,374 --> 01:12:18,004
when Jim lost an enormous amount of money
1327
01:12:17,998 --> 01:12:20,678
and he actually made the statement,
1328
01:12:20,677 --> 01:12:23,647
"Well, if I don't sell these pots,"
1329
01:12:23,653 --> 01:12:25,393
which were these Japanese ceramics,
1330
01:12:25,387 --> 01:12:27,747
"I'm just gonna have to commit hara-kiri."
1331
01:12:31,496 --> 01:12:34,066
- [Shelley] When I called
him, I said, "David,
1332
01:12:34,067 --> 01:12:36,067
"I know you're in trouble,
1333
01:12:36,072 --> 01:12:38,012
"I know you've lost your job,
1334
01:12:38,013 --> 01:12:39,553
"and I wanna help you."
1335
01:12:39,549 --> 01:12:42,549
He stopped because I'd never
really said that before
1336
01:12:42,546 --> 01:12:45,626
because I didn't view
him as really in trouble,
1337
01:12:45,629 --> 01:12:47,999
and he said,
1338
01:12:47,997 --> 01:12:49,327
"I can't talk about this right now
1339
01:12:49,330 --> 01:12:51,640
"because I don't wanna cry
in the middle of the street,"
1340
01:12:51,644 --> 01:12:54,584
and I thought, oh my God, this is serious.
1341
01:12:54,578 --> 01:12:57,728
He's really emotionally
on the verge of tears.
1342
01:12:59,963 --> 01:13:03,823
- Five months before he jumped,
1343
01:13:03,815 --> 01:13:06,415
he had written a note, an email
1344
01:13:06,415 --> 01:13:09,225
to a couple dozen of his friends
1345
01:13:09,231 --> 01:13:12,031
saying that he had been
contemplating suicide
1346
01:13:12,030 --> 01:13:15,100
and a lot of them wrote
back to him and called him.
1347
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,340
However, he never mentioned
suicide to me ever,
1348
01:13:19,338 --> 01:13:22,398
and I just can't fathom the
idea of committing suicide
1349
01:13:22,399 --> 01:13:25,239
and I just think I thought
he was one of those people
1350
01:13:25,237 --> 01:13:27,757
who for him it just wasn't an option,
1351
01:13:27,764 --> 01:13:29,564
but apparently it was.
1352
01:13:31,973 --> 01:13:36,543
(soft ambient music)
1353
01:13:45,754 --> 01:13:47,424
- My daughter was leaving for camp,
1354
01:13:47,417 --> 01:13:50,587
and I said, "You know what,
let's go to the movies."
1355
01:13:52,823 --> 01:13:54,513
We went into the theater.
1356
01:14:01,653 --> 01:14:05,013
He just put his head in his hands
1357
01:14:05,013 --> 01:14:09,703
and he just wept.
1358
01:14:09,704 --> 01:14:11,744
He just wept in the movie.
1359
01:14:14,449 --> 01:14:16,549
And I was tearing up a little too,
1360
01:14:16,552 --> 01:14:19,672
but he was just crying
and crying and crying.
1361
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,300
And he put his hand on my leg,
1362
01:14:32,874 --> 01:14:34,554
and I said,
1363
01:14:34,548 --> 01:14:37,518
"Ruby, I don't need to be comforted,"
1364
01:14:37,524 --> 01:14:39,284
and he looked at me.
1365
01:14:42,001 --> 01:14:44,511
I thought, oh my God.
1366
01:14:44,508 --> 01:14:45,938
Oh no.
1367
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:56,220
It was then that I remembered
1368
01:14:58,131 --> 01:15:00,531
that I put the meds in
a plain white envelope
1369
01:15:02,256 --> 01:15:04,086
a couple months earlier.
1370
01:15:10,576 --> 01:15:11,656
We got out of the movie theater
1371
01:15:11,664 --> 01:15:14,494
and we were walking to his car,
1372
01:15:14,490 --> 01:15:16,460
and I thought,
1373
01:15:18,737 --> 01:15:21,167
he's not just depressed,
he wants to kill himself.
1374
01:15:23,433 --> 01:15:28,433
(melancholy piano music)
1375
01:15:32,723 --> 01:15:34,773
And he said, "The meds,
1376
01:15:34,766 --> 01:15:36,996
"I think I can't sleep
because of the meds,"
1377
01:15:36,995 --> 01:15:39,435
and I said,
1378
01:15:39,435 --> 01:15:41,005
"I know, I wish I hadn't given them to you
1379
01:15:41,014 --> 01:15:45,404
"because I feel like I made it worse.
1380
01:15:45,395 --> 01:15:48,535
"They had the same effect on me."
1381
01:15:48,539 --> 01:15:50,059
He said, "That's it, actually.
1382
01:15:50,064 --> 01:15:52,534
"I can't sleep,
1383
01:15:52,528 --> 01:15:55,168
"and I'm just up.
1384
01:15:55,173 --> 01:15:59,393
"I can't stop worrying.
1385
01:16:00,802 --> 01:16:02,662
"I just can't turn it off and not sleeping
1386
01:16:02,658 --> 01:16:05,308
"is what is making me crazy.
1387
01:16:06,570 --> 01:16:08,740
"I'm thinking about I'm killing myself."
1388
01:16:09,887 --> 01:16:11,647
And I said, "I know."
1389
01:16:14,677 --> 01:16:17,377
I felt it when we were walking to the car.
1390
01:16:17,381 --> 01:16:18,941
Something was gone.
1391
01:16:21,512 --> 01:16:23,842
And he said, "I'm so ashamed
1392
01:16:23,837 --> 01:16:27,107
"to tell you that I'm
thinking about doing this.
1393
01:16:27,112 --> 01:16:29,272
"What would you think of me if I did?"
1394
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,750
And I said, "Ruby, I have understood
1395
01:16:36,752 --> 01:16:40,902
"that there are people
who have incessant pain,
1396
01:16:40,901 --> 01:16:43,061
"but (sighs)
1397
01:16:44,568 --> 01:16:47,248
"I don't think you're one of 'em.
1398
01:16:47,245 --> 01:16:49,185
"Do you have plan?"
1399
01:16:50,837 --> 01:16:53,717
And he said, "Well, I'm
thinking about different things.
1400
01:16:53,717 --> 01:16:55,527
"I'd overdose except I'm
not sure how much to take
1401
01:16:55,530 --> 01:16:57,750
"and I might wake up in an ER,
1402
01:16:57,746 --> 01:17:00,206
"and that would be horrible.
1403
01:17:00,208 --> 01:17:01,308
"And
1404
01:17:03,053 --> 01:17:03,963
"I thought about the bridge,"
1405
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,070
and I said, "You can't do the bridge.
1406
01:17:06,072 --> 01:17:07,752
"Too dramatic."
1407
01:17:07,746 --> 01:17:09,276
He said, "What about people
who shoot themselves?"
1408
01:17:09,282 --> 01:17:10,352
And I said, "It's too messy.
1409
01:17:10,349 --> 01:17:13,209
"It's not fair to your landlord.
1410
01:17:13,205 --> 01:17:16,205
"And, anyway,
1411
01:17:16,206 --> 01:17:17,776
"you are not in the category
1412
01:17:17,780 --> 01:17:20,100
"of people who get to kill themselves."
1413
01:17:24,977 --> 01:17:26,537
And then he wanted to come over
1414
01:17:26,535 --> 01:17:29,035
and spend some time and just
didn't want to go home yet,
1415
01:17:29,041 --> 01:17:32,701
but I actually just
wanted to be by myself.
1416
01:17:34,446 --> 01:17:35,596
I said, "No.
1417
01:17:37,004 --> 01:17:38,204
"Can't.
1418
01:17:42,011 --> 01:17:44,091
"But if you feel really desperate,
1419
01:17:44,086 --> 01:17:45,736
"you call me, I'll drop anything."
1420
01:17:45,742 --> 01:17:47,192
I did say that.
1421
01:17:52,659 --> 01:17:54,669
So then I got him out
of my car and went home,
1422
01:17:54,669 --> 01:17:57,079
and I didn't hear from him
1423
01:17:59,019 --> 01:18:00,659
actually ever again.
1424
01:18:24,405 --> 01:18:27,535
♫ Since I lost you
1425
01:18:30,186 --> 01:18:34,456
♫ I can't get through the day
1426
01:18:34,458 --> 01:18:37,088
♫ Without at least
1427
01:18:37,087 --> 01:18:40,417
♫ One big boo-hoo
1428
01:18:42,750 --> 01:18:47,020
♫ The pain won't go away
1429
01:18:47,018 --> 01:18:49,808
♫ What am I gonna do ♫
1430
01:18:51,652 --> 01:18:54,922
- We all know how much
1431
01:18:54,923 --> 01:18:58,143
all of us had been close to Jim,
1432
01:18:58,135 --> 01:19:01,565
how his passing has
affected us, whether it's
1433
01:19:02,889 --> 01:19:05,449
fear that,
1434
01:19:05,452 --> 01:19:07,602
you know, you might get to that same place
1435
01:19:07,603 --> 01:19:11,393
and do the same thing or
1436
01:19:11,390 --> 01:19:15,260
just guilt because you felt you
weren't a good enough friend
1437
01:19:15,261 --> 01:19:19,721
or whatever it is, there is
a lot different reactions.
1438
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,810
Talking to everybody, there's
a lot of different reactions.
1439
01:19:25,349 --> 01:19:27,359
And I think everyone's
trying to make sense of it.
1440
01:19:30,008 --> 01:19:32,978
In Jim's particular passing, which
1441
01:19:32,981 --> 01:19:34,841
as a friend of mine said,
1442
01:19:34,837 --> 01:19:39,527
he was warning you but he
was not asking for help.
1443
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,540
- I thought
1444
01:19:46,536 --> 01:19:49,856
that he was probably feeling so ashamed
1445
01:19:49,864 --> 01:19:51,194
'cause the theme of that night was
1446
01:19:51,186 --> 01:19:53,576
I'm so ashamed I'm telling you this
1447
01:19:53,575 --> 01:19:54,885
that I
1448
01:19:56,573 --> 01:20:00,643
made the mistake of giving
him some space to recover,
1449
01:20:01,999 --> 01:20:05,109
and that was a bad call, I think.
1450
01:20:07,055 --> 01:20:09,855
You know, I could have 51-50'd him.
1451
01:20:09,863 --> 01:20:12,713
(water splashes)
1452
01:20:12,706 --> 01:20:14,046
But, also,
1453
01:20:14,047 --> 01:20:15,487
I didn't wanna humiliate him
1454
01:20:15,487 --> 01:20:17,587
and have him be in a psych facility
1455
01:20:17,589 --> 01:20:19,329
'cause I wasn't sure they
were really gonna help him
1456
01:20:19,326 --> 01:20:21,496
and I didn't wanna cross my boundaries.
1457
01:20:22,919 --> 01:20:26,229
But I will never again not intrude.
1458
01:20:26,231 --> 01:20:28,171
I won't respect their privacy
1459
01:20:28,174 --> 01:20:31,674
and I will not ever again
1460
01:20:31,665 --> 01:20:33,355
not do something 'cause I'm afraid
1461
01:20:33,361 --> 01:20:36,031
that they might be embarrassed.
1462
01:20:39,246 --> 01:20:42,486
- There's obviously a fuzzy line between
1463
01:20:42,488 --> 01:20:45,648
doing nothing and doing
what would have prevented it
1464
01:20:45,645 --> 01:20:48,655
and who knows where that line is?
1465
01:20:48,664 --> 01:20:49,884
He was a grownup.
1466
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,970
I couldn't tell him what
to do with his life,
1467
01:20:51,970 --> 01:20:54,310
and I suppose if we had had him locked up
1468
01:20:54,306 --> 01:20:58,106
or something, then he
might still be alive,
1469
01:20:58,114 --> 01:21:00,854
but I don't
1470
01:21:00,849 --> 01:21:03,469
blame myself like that.
1471
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,330
Initially, several of his other friends
1472
01:21:08,325 --> 01:21:10,315
went out there as a group
1473
01:21:10,322 --> 01:21:13,672
because they knew the light pole number
1474
01:21:13,671 --> 01:21:16,171
(water splashes)
where he had jumped.
1475
01:21:17,967 --> 01:21:19,547
I couldn't go,
1476
01:21:19,546 --> 01:21:21,906
but a couple of months later, I did go
1477
01:21:21,914 --> 01:21:23,794
and it was very difficult,
1478
01:21:23,791 --> 01:21:27,091
and I'll never be able to
drive across the bridge again
1479
01:21:27,087 --> 01:21:29,897
without some kind of
1480
01:21:31,361 --> 01:21:33,391
emotional reaction.
1481
01:21:34,953 --> 01:21:36,933
Something else I'm
pissed off at him about.
1482
01:21:36,926 --> 01:21:38,866
It's such a great bridge.
1483
01:21:42,366 --> 01:21:44,776
- I think the bridge has a romance,
1484
01:21:47,841 --> 01:21:50,191
a false romantic promise to it
1485
01:21:52,208 --> 01:21:54,118
because he's dead.
1486
01:21:55,837 --> 01:21:57,087
And
1487
01:21:59,025 --> 01:22:00,915
he doesn't get to benefit
1488
01:22:00,924 --> 01:22:03,234
from the romanticism of it.
1489
01:22:03,225 --> 01:22:06,215
He doesn't have any benefit from it.
1490
01:22:06,224 --> 01:22:10,174
It romanticizes him a bit in the legend,
1491
01:22:15,083 --> 01:22:17,293
but he doesn't benefit for it.
1492
01:22:17,285 --> 01:22:19,965
So what if his story has that at the end?
1493
01:22:19,973 --> 01:22:21,183
He's gone.
1494
01:22:23,255 --> 01:22:24,795
And so I think there's an empty promise.
1495
01:22:24,799 --> 01:22:27,149
It's almost like, you know
what alcoholics talk about
1496
01:22:27,150 --> 01:22:29,410
the romance of the bottle, you know?
1497
01:22:30,589 --> 01:22:32,799
Like maybe the first sip is really good
1498
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,150
and everything else is hell.
1499
01:22:35,154 --> 01:22:36,304
So maybe walking out there,
1500
01:22:36,295 --> 01:22:39,735
he had a romantic moment
or two or an hour,
1501
01:22:41,444 --> 01:22:43,984
but hitting the water can't be fun.
1502
01:22:45,900 --> 01:22:47,160
So I think he felt like a failure
1503
01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:49,339
and this was some sort of redemption.
1504
01:22:52,607 --> 01:22:56,167
I think that it just drew
him with this idea of
1505
01:22:59,142 --> 01:23:00,652
being famous.
1506
01:23:02,971 --> 01:23:07,741
(soft ambient music)
1507
01:23:30,993 --> 01:23:35,883
(water splashes)
1508
01:23:47,031 --> 01:23:50,481
- The last time I saw him,
I was leaving for work
1509
01:23:50,477 --> 01:23:54,737
and I gave him five bucks so
he could get a pack of smokes,
1510
01:23:54,742 --> 01:23:57,922
go grab a paper, and, you know,
1511
01:23:57,921 --> 01:24:00,341
go out and maybe hit a couple places
1512
01:24:00,344 --> 01:24:02,724
to put in some applications,
1513
01:24:02,718 --> 01:24:04,628
and that's when he disappeared
1514
01:24:04,627 --> 01:24:08,197
and I was the last one
to actually talk to him,
1515
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,500
and I remember when I
was walking out the door,
1516
01:24:12,500 --> 01:24:15,280
the last thing I said to him, I said,
1517
01:24:15,275 --> 01:24:16,965
"Cheer up, Gene."
1518
01:24:16,974 --> 01:24:20,434
I said, "Everything will work out."
1519
01:24:20,428 --> 01:24:24,068
And just jokingly, I said,
1520
01:24:24,067 --> 01:24:25,707
"See you when I get home, love you,"
1521
01:24:25,706 --> 01:24:29,286
and that was it, that was the
last thing I ever said to him.
1522
01:24:30,524 --> 01:24:33,014
- The last thing I ever
said to him was a fight.
1523
01:24:33,010 --> 01:24:34,960
- Yeah.
1524
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,540
- [Jen] Because
1525
01:24:36,538 --> 01:24:39,158
I didn't think he was trying
1526
01:24:39,155 --> 01:24:42,155
to find a job as hard as he could,
1527
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:43,289
and it was making me angry
1528
01:24:43,290 --> 01:24:45,100
because I knew that he was very smart
1529
01:24:45,103 --> 01:24:46,843
and he was very capable
1530
01:24:46,841 --> 01:24:49,681
and the only thing
holding him back was him
1531
01:24:49,679 --> 01:24:51,489
just not caring,
1532
01:24:51,492 --> 01:24:53,842
and he found one of the
kid's sidewalk chalk
1533
01:24:53,838 --> 01:24:57,338
and he was sittin' behind Matt's truck
1534
01:24:57,337 --> 01:25:00,287
and he wrote "End me" on the ground
1535
01:25:00,291 --> 01:25:03,171
like he scratched it in
over and over and over,
1536
01:25:03,171 --> 01:25:05,211
and my son came in and got me
1537
01:25:05,208 --> 01:25:07,248
and said, "Why would Gene write that?"
1538
01:25:08,971 --> 01:25:13,381
(soft ambient music)
1539
01:25:15,326 --> 01:25:18,806
- Knowing Gene and the way his
personality works and stuff,
1540
01:25:18,811 --> 01:25:20,781
the Golden Gate Bridge is perfect for him
1541
01:25:20,784 --> 01:25:24,514
because it's just one easy step
1542
01:25:24,510 --> 01:25:26,220
and there's no turning back.
1543
01:25:26,224 --> 01:25:28,754
In hindsight, I almost feel like
1544
01:25:28,752 --> 01:25:30,942
it was meant to happen.
1545
01:25:30,938 --> 01:25:32,598
Maybe he's happy now.
1546
01:25:32,602 --> 01:25:33,402
You know, who knows?
1547
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,410
I don't, but
1548
01:25:39,686 --> 01:25:42,416
he couldn't have lasted much longer,
1549
01:25:42,423 --> 01:25:44,613
not the way he was going.
1550
01:25:44,610 --> 01:25:46,860
- But if he would have waited,
1551
01:25:46,860 --> 01:25:48,280
there was a message on
our answering machine
1552
01:25:48,279 --> 01:25:50,829
from one of the places in Oakland
1553
01:25:50,828 --> 01:25:52,988
that had offered him a management position
1554
01:25:52,993 --> 01:25:54,323
which is what he wanted.
1555
01:25:54,316 --> 01:25:57,366
They were opening a new
GameStop, I think it was.
1556
01:25:57,368 --> 01:25:57,998
- Whatever,
1557
01:25:57,996 --> 01:25:58,826
one of the game places.
- [NAME] One of game
1558
01:25:58,828 --> 01:26:00,448
stores and they were gonna put him
1559
01:26:00,449 --> 01:26:01,969
straight into management,
1560
01:26:01,974 --> 01:26:03,554
and he had an interview
the day that he jumped
1561
01:26:03,553 --> 01:26:05,133
at 10 o'clock in the morning.
1562
01:26:05,131 --> 01:26:05,861
- [Matt] Yep.
1563
01:26:05,857 --> 01:26:08,197
- [Jen] And I don't know
if he got the message
1564
01:26:08,203 --> 01:26:11,463
or if he missed it 'cause I
don't know what time he left.
1565
01:26:11,456 --> 01:26:13,396
He was gone before I got home.
1566
01:26:16,318 --> 01:26:19,378
If he would've either just
checked the message or waited.
1567
01:26:26,709 --> 01:26:29,449
- I couldn't fully cry, and I couldn't
1568
01:26:29,450 --> 01:26:34,310
fully whatever, but the
overwhelming emotion was anger.
1569
01:26:35,564 --> 01:26:38,544
I was extremely pissed.
1570
01:26:38,536 --> 01:26:42,796
I wanted to drive out to the Bay Area and
1571
01:26:42,797 --> 01:26:44,837
go to the coroner and
1572
01:26:46,856 --> 01:26:49,336
you know, get, clear!
(imitates defibrillator)
1573
01:26:49,341 --> 01:26:50,331
Wake up.
1574
01:26:50,333 --> 01:26:52,453
Why did you do that?
1575
01:26:52,445 --> 01:26:55,495
I don't see any reason
1576
01:26:55,495 --> 01:26:57,435
for people to do that,
1577
01:26:58,745 --> 01:27:02,715
and Gene had people in
this world that loved him,
1578
01:27:04,201 --> 01:27:06,431
and he hurt 'em.
1579
01:27:08,734 --> 01:27:11,754
If I see him again, that's
what I wanna tell him.
1580
01:27:11,753 --> 01:27:13,053
He hurt me,
1581
01:27:13,054 --> 01:27:15,384
and I didn't think he would ever do that.
1582
01:27:22,695 --> 01:27:24,875
- Disturbed is a interesting word
1583
01:27:24,881 --> 01:27:28,181
'cause (laughs) that's
all I can define it as
1584
01:27:28,177 --> 01:27:30,107
is I was disturbed.
1585
01:27:30,107 --> 01:27:31,487
Now I miss him.
1586
01:27:31,494 --> 01:27:33,674
Now I'm sad.
1587
01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:37,169
But at the moment, there was almost,
1588
01:27:38,787 --> 01:27:42,737
that I got the news, there
was almost a sense of relief,
1589
01:27:47,321 --> 01:27:50,501
that he wasn't going to be
1590
01:27:50,498 --> 01:27:53,758
disappointed or unhappy anymore.
1591
01:27:56,789 --> 01:27:58,909
I miss him.
1592
01:27:58,911 --> 01:28:03,761
But I don't have any answers,
1593
01:28:06,172 --> 01:28:10,122
just a bunch of
observations and a bunch of
1594
01:28:10,115 --> 01:28:14,415
experience of feeling disturbed
1595
01:28:14,418 --> 01:28:16,768
about that situation.
1596
01:28:17,999 --> 01:28:20,869
I don't know why people kill themselves,
1597
01:28:20,868 --> 01:28:23,448
and yet it's a small step
1598
01:28:23,451 --> 01:28:26,011
to emphasize, to say...
1599
01:28:27,292 --> 01:28:30,742
because I think we all
experience moments of despair
1600
01:28:30,742 --> 01:28:35,552
that it would be so much
easier not to do this anymore.
1601
01:28:37,334 --> 01:28:39,424
But for most of us,
1602
01:28:39,424 --> 01:28:41,954
the sun comes out and then,
1603
01:28:41,952 --> 01:28:43,702
oh well.
1604
01:28:43,695 --> 01:28:45,905
Tomorrow is another day.
1605
01:28:45,905 --> 01:28:50,505
(soft ambient music)
1606
01:28:54,717 --> 01:28:58,257
Why he chose the bridge, I don't know.
1607
01:28:59,834 --> 01:29:02,204
Maybe there's a certain amount of
1608
01:29:02,202 --> 01:29:05,472
release from
1609
01:29:05,471 --> 01:29:07,631
pain by pain.
1610
01:29:10,701 --> 01:29:13,231
Maybe he just wanted to fly one time.
1611
01:29:13,230 --> 01:29:18,230
(somber string music)
1612
01:29:55,538 --> 01:30:00,318
♫ Here, where they can't find us
1613
01:30:00,316 --> 01:30:02,796
♫ Dare them to call
1614
01:30:03,844 --> 01:30:05,834
♫ Me out
1615
01:30:07,076 --> 01:30:08,186
♫ Or tell you
1616
01:30:08,190 --> 01:30:12,550
♫ We met here on purpose
1617
01:30:12,548 --> 01:30:15,348
♫ I bet they can't wait
1618
01:30:16,343 --> 01:30:19,453
♫ To wake us up
1619
01:30:19,448 --> 01:30:21,988
♫ It's all
1620
01:30:21,992 --> 01:30:24,932
♫ A little bit strange
1621
01:30:26,096 --> 01:30:27,926
♫ I know
1622
01:30:27,931 --> 01:30:31,291
♫ It's a little bit strange
1623
01:30:33,221 --> 01:30:34,501
♫ Make
1624
01:30:34,501 --> 01:30:37,561
♫ A point and ignore them
1625
01:30:37,562 --> 01:30:41,312
♫ Come on, let's wait
1626
01:30:41,309 --> 01:30:43,529
♫ This out
1627
01:30:44,602 --> 01:30:45,652
♫ They'll find out
1628
01:30:45,647 --> 01:30:50,007
♫ We never stopped turning
1629
01:30:50,009 --> 01:30:53,859
♫ And sometimes it's tough
1630
01:30:53,859 --> 01:30:57,229
♫ To change direction
1631
01:30:57,230 --> 01:30:59,420
♫ I know
1632
01:30:59,417 --> 01:31:02,327
♫ It's a little bit strange
1633
01:31:03,712 --> 01:31:05,742
♫ It's all
1634
01:31:05,742 --> 01:31:10,282
♫ A little bit strange
1635
01:31:10,279 --> 01:31:12,629
♫ At the end of the day
1636
01:31:12,629 --> 01:31:15,279
♫ Well, I
1637
01:31:16,413 --> 01:31:18,993
♫ Gonna say what I mean
1638
01:31:18,985 --> 01:31:21,895
♫ Well, I
1639
01:31:22,910 --> 01:31:25,140
♫ It's slipping all away
1640
01:31:25,139 --> 01:31:27,709
♫ Away
1641
01:31:28,968 --> 01:31:30,468
♫ At the end
1642
01:31:30,472 --> 01:31:33,742
♫ Of our days
1643
01:31:34,909 --> 01:31:37,209
♫ We'll escape
1644
01:31:41,276 --> 01:31:43,396
♫ We'll escape
1645
01:31:53,748 --> 01:31:55,528
♫ I know
1646
01:32:00,823 --> 01:32:04,493
♫ Oh, oo, oh
1647
01:32:07,052 --> 01:32:10,902
♫ Oh, oo, oh
1648
01:32:12,758 --> 01:32:14,358
♫ I know
1649
01:32:14,359 --> 01:32:17,489
♫ It's a little bit strange
1650
01:32:18,955 --> 01:32:20,885
♫ It's all
1651
01:32:20,886 --> 01:32:25,366
♫ A little bit strange
1652
01:32:25,370 --> 01:32:27,750
♫ At the end of the day
1653
01:32:27,754 --> 01:32:30,064
♫ Well, I
1654
01:32:31,509 --> 01:32:33,989
♫ Gonna say what I mean
1655
01:32:33,994 --> 01:32:36,344
♫ Well, I
1656
01:32:37,749 --> 01:32:40,389
♫ At the end of the day
1657
01:32:40,394 --> 01:32:42,484
♫ I
1658
01:32:43,604 --> 01:32:46,684
♫ Gonna say what I mean
1659
01:32:46,678 --> 01:32:50,468
♫ Well, I
1660
01:32:50,471 --> 01:32:55,461
♫ Slipping all away
1661
01:32:56,796 --> 01:33:01,796
♫ Slipping all away
1662
01:33:03,025 --> 01:33:06,745
♫ Slipping all away
1663
01:33:06,745 --> 01:33:09,105
♫ Now
1664
01:33:09,112 --> 01:33:11,972
♫ At the end of
1665
01:33:11,968 --> 01:33:14,018
♫ Our day
1666
01:33:15,208 --> 01:33:17,398
♫ We'll escape
1667
01:33:21,405 --> 01:33:23,805
♫ We'll escape
1668
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,369
♫ Oh, there's no escape
1669
01:33:34,055 --> 01:33:36,235
♫ We'll escape
1670
01:33:37,564 --> 01:33:42,534
♫ Oh, yeah
1671
01:33:46,460 --> 01:33:48,290
♫ Right now
1672
01:33:53,519 --> 01:33:57,049
♫ Oh, oo, oh
1673
01:33:59,557 --> 01:34:03,727
♫ Oh, oo, oh ♫
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