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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 34 00:00:19,304 --> 00:00:24,941 I was assigned a listening post at Con Thien in the fall. 35 00:00:24,943 --> 00:00:28,945 That was like getting a death sentence in a trial. 36 00:00:28,947 --> 00:00:31,114 Because that's just three Marines out there with a radio. 37 00:00:32,784 --> 00:00:34,450 And that's the scariest thing I did. 38 00:00:34,452 --> 00:00:37,320 You're listening for the enemy. 39 00:00:37,322 --> 00:00:40,456 They call you on the radio every hour, 40 00:00:40,458 --> 00:00:41,891 "Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, 41 00:00:41,893 --> 00:00:45,328 Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, this is Delta Three. 42 00:00:45,330 --> 00:00:48,464 If your sit rep is alpha sierra, key your handset twice. 43 00:00:49,867 --> 00:00:51,566 "If your situation report is all secure, 44 00:00:51,568 --> 00:00:53,235 break squelch twice on the handset." 45 00:00:55,306 --> 00:00:57,405 And if it's not, they keep thinking you're asleep 46 00:00:57,407 --> 00:01:00,042 so they keep asking you, "If your sit rep is alpha sierra," 47 00:01:00,044 --> 00:01:01,343 and then it finally dawns on them, 48 00:01:01,345 --> 00:01:04,079 maybe there's somebody too close for you to say anything. 49 00:01:04,081 --> 00:01:07,049 So then they say, "If your sit rep is negative alpha sierra, 50 00:01:07,051 --> 00:01:08,550 key your handset once," 51 00:01:08,552 --> 00:01:10,518 and you damn near squeeze the handle off the, you know, 52 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,788 and two on the radio because they're so close 53 00:01:13,790 --> 00:01:15,557 that you can hear them whispering to one another. 54 00:01:18,128 --> 00:01:19,594 And that's scary stuff. 55 00:01:19,596 --> 00:01:20,963 That's real scary stuff. 56 00:01:20,965 --> 00:01:24,632 And I'm scared of the dark, still. 57 00:01:24,634 --> 00:01:27,569 I still got a night light. 58 00:01:27,571 --> 00:01:30,938 When my kids were growing up, 59 00:01:30,940 --> 00:01:34,676 that's the first time they really found out 60 00:01:34,678 --> 00:01:36,811 that Daddy'd been in a war when they said, 61 00:01:36,813 --> 00:01:39,381 "Well, why do we need to outgrow our night lights? 62 00:01:39,383 --> 00:01:40,615 Daddy's still got one." 63 00:01:47,791 --> 00:01:51,859 Let the word go forth from this time and place, 64 00:01:51,861 --> 00:01:54,896 to friend and foe alike, 65 00:01:54,898 --> 00:01:59,032 that the torch has been passed to a new generation 66 00:01:59,034 --> 00:02:05,773 of Americans born in this century, tempered by war, 67 00:02:05,775 --> 00:02:09,476 disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, 68 00:02:09,478 --> 00:02:12,879 - proud of our... - I still believed, very much, 69 00:02:12,881 --> 00:02:17,551 in this concept of an heroic America, 70 00:02:17,553 --> 00:02:20,321 America being a really special country, 71 00:02:20,323 --> 00:02:23,590 the best country in the world, the best democracy, 72 00:02:23,592 --> 00:02:27,560 all the things that we believe about it, which... 73 00:02:27,562 --> 00:02:29,529 and I didn't really see anything wrong with that. 74 00:02:32,434 --> 00:02:37,070 I was sure that we were right to be in Vietnam. 75 00:02:37,072 --> 00:02:39,206 You know, because it started under Kennedy 76 00:02:39,208 --> 00:02:41,875 and, to me, JFK was God. 77 00:02:41,877 --> 00:02:45,111 Anything that he thought was right, I thought was right. 78 00:02:47,615 --> 00:02:51,784 At 43, John Fitzgerald Kennedy was the youngest man 79 00:02:51,786 --> 00:02:55,421 ever elected president of the United States. 80 00:02:55,423 --> 00:02:57,858 He had promised bold new leadership, 81 00:02:57,860 --> 00:03:04,096 and to his supporters his inauguration seemed to signal a new day. 82 00:03:04,098 --> 00:03:07,032 To those new states whom we welcome 83 00:03:07,034 --> 00:03:10,002 to the ranks of the free, 84 00:03:10,004 --> 00:03:15,975 we pledge our word that one form of colonial control 85 00:03:15,977 --> 00:03:18,577 shall not have passed away 86 00:03:18,579 --> 00:03:23,815 merely to be replaced by a far more iron tyranny. 87 00:03:23,817 --> 00:03:28,953 We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view. 88 00:03:28,955 --> 00:03:33,524 But we shall always hope to find them strongly supporting 89 00:03:33,526 --> 00:03:39,030 their own freedom and to remember that, in the past, 90 00:03:39,032 --> 00:03:42,533 those who foolishly sought power 91 00:03:42,535 --> 00:03:46,637 by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside. 92 00:03:55,082 --> 00:03:57,381 The new president gathered around him 93 00:03:57,383 --> 00:04:01,219 an extraordinary set of advisors who shared his determination 94 00:04:01,221 --> 00:04:06,324 to confront communism, including Secretary of State Dean Rusk, 95 00:04:06,326 --> 00:04:10,127 National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy, 96 00:04:10,129 --> 00:04:12,896 his deputy Walt Rostow, 97 00:04:12,898 --> 00:04:17,268 special military advisor General Maxwell Taylor, 98 00:04:17,270 --> 00:04:20,871 and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, 99 00:04:20,873 --> 00:04:22,673 who had given up his post 100 00:04:22,675 --> 00:04:26,711 as president of the Ford Motor Company to serve his country. 101 00:04:26,713 --> 00:04:32,783 He was a pioneer in the field of systems analysis. 102 00:04:32,785 --> 00:04:35,719 Like the president who picked them, 103 00:04:35,721 --> 00:04:39,889 all of Kennedy's men had served during World War II. 104 00:04:39,891 --> 00:04:42,259 Each had absorbed what they all believed 105 00:04:42,261 --> 00:04:44,294 was its central lesson: 106 00:04:44,296 --> 00:04:48,365 ambitious dictatorships needed to be halted in their tracks 107 00:04:48,367 --> 00:04:51,601 before they constituted a serious danger 108 00:04:51,603 --> 00:04:53,737 to the peace of the world. 109 00:04:53,739 --> 00:04:57,039 Meanwhile, in South Vietnam, 110 00:04:57,041 --> 00:04:59,208 the National Liberation Front... 111 00:04:59,210 --> 00:05:02,078 labeled by its enemies the Viet Cong... 112 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,548 was determined to overthrow the anticommunist 113 00:05:05,550 --> 00:05:10,920 and increasingly autocratic government of Ngo Dinh Diem. 114 00:05:10,922 --> 00:05:15,057 In North Vietnam, unbeknownst to Washington, 115 00:05:15,059 --> 00:05:19,061 Ho Chi Minh, the father of Vietnamese independence, 116 00:05:19,063 --> 00:05:22,364 was now sharing power with a more aggressive leader, 117 00:05:22,366 --> 00:05:25,301 Le Duan, who was even more impatient 118 00:05:25,303 --> 00:05:27,569 to reunify his country. 119 00:05:48,282 --> 00:05:51,784 None of us knew anything about Vietnam. 120 00:05:51,786 --> 00:05:55,987 Vietnam in those days was a piece on a chessboard, 121 00:05:55,989 --> 00:05:58,223 a strategic chessboard, 122 00:05:58,225 --> 00:06:02,160 not a place with a culture and a history 123 00:06:02,162 --> 00:06:07,733 that we would have an impossible time changing, 124 00:06:07,735 --> 00:06:10,702 even with the mighty force of the United States. 125 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:15,340 Over the next three years, the United States would struggle 126 00:06:15,342 --> 00:06:19,844 to understand the complicated country it had come to save, 127 00:06:19,846 --> 00:06:22,980 fail to appreciate the enemy's resolve, 128 00:06:22,982 --> 00:06:26,684 and misread how the South Vietnamese people really felt 129 00:06:26,686 --> 00:06:28,519 about their government. 130 00:06:30,557 --> 00:06:32,890 The new president would find himself caught 131 00:06:32,892 --> 00:06:37,562 between the momentum of war and the desire for peace, 132 00:06:37,564 --> 00:06:40,665 between humility and hubris, 133 00:06:40,667 --> 00:06:46,938 between idealism and expediency, between the truth and a lie. 134 00:07:07,373 --> 00:07:10,674 And so, my fellow Americans, 135 00:07:10,676 --> 00:07:15,779 ask not what your country can do for you, 136 00:07:15,781 --> 00:07:17,914 ask what you can do for your country. 137 00:07:24,957 --> 00:07:28,892 I grew up in Missouri, near Kansas City, 138 00:07:28,894 --> 00:07:31,995 a little community called Fairmount. 139 00:07:31,997 --> 00:07:33,597 I was born in 1948. 140 00:07:33,599 --> 00:07:36,232 And there were lots of kids being born in those days 141 00:07:36,234 --> 00:07:37,801 from the guys who were lucky enough to come home 142 00:07:37,803 --> 00:07:38,668 from World War II. 143 00:07:40,105 --> 00:07:43,539 My dad was a pilot in the Army Air Corps. 144 00:07:43,541 --> 00:07:46,442 And all of dad's friends 145 00:07:46,444 --> 00:07:49,579 were World War II vets or Korean vets. 146 00:07:49,581 --> 00:07:52,281 And all of my male teachers were veterans. 147 00:07:52,283 --> 00:07:54,484 And even my pastor had been a chaplain. 148 00:07:56,221 --> 00:08:00,756 Well, they were my heroes, and I wanted to be like them. 149 00:08:07,965 --> 00:08:10,966 For all of John Kennedy's soaring rhetoric, 150 00:08:10,968 --> 00:08:13,636 for all the talent he gathered around him, 151 00:08:13,638 --> 00:08:16,972 the first months of his presidency did not go well. 152 00:08:16,974 --> 00:08:21,444 He approved a CIA-sponsored invasion of Cuba 153 00:08:21,446 --> 00:08:25,913 at the Bay of Pigs that ended in disaster. 154 00:08:25,915 --> 00:08:27,849 He felt he'd been bullied 155 00:08:27,851 --> 00:08:30,285 by Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev 156 00:08:30,287 --> 00:08:32,720 at a summit meeting in Vienna. 157 00:08:32,722 --> 00:08:35,023 He was unable to keep the Soviets 158 00:08:35,025 --> 00:08:37,459 from building the Berlin Wall. 159 00:08:37,461 --> 00:08:41,696 And in Southeast Asia, he refused to intervene 160 00:08:41,698 --> 00:08:44,999 against a communist insurrection in Laos. 161 00:08:45,001 --> 00:08:49,638 Critics accused him of being immature, indecisive, 162 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,308 inadequate to the task of combating what seemed to be 163 00:08:53,310 --> 00:08:55,877 a mounting communist threat. 164 00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:59,414 "There are just so many concessions that we can make 165 00:08:59,416 --> 00:09:01,848 in one year and survive politically," 166 00:09:01,850 --> 00:09:06,587 he confided to an aide in the spring of 1961. 167 00:09:06,589 --> 00:09:11,958 In South Vietnam, Kennedy felt he had to act. 168 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,662 After the president received reports 169 00:09:14,664 --> 00:09:17,231 that the Viet Cong might be in control 170 00:09:17,233 --> 00:09:21,268 of more than half the densely populated Mekong Delta, 171 00:09:21,270 --> 00:09:25,339 he dispatched General Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow 172 00:09:25,341 --> 00:09:27,541 to Vietnam. 173 00:09:27,543 --> 00:09:31,312 They urged him to commit American ground troops. 174 00:09:31,314 --> 00:09:33,046 Kennedy refused. 175 00:09:33,048 --> 00:09:36,817 It would be like taking a first drink, he said... 176 00:09:36,819 --> 00:09:39,953 the effect would soon wear off and there would be demands 177 00:09:39,955 --> 00:09:43,423 for another and another and another. 178 00:09:43,425 --> 00:09:46,893 Instead, in the midst of a cold war, 179 00:09:46,895 --> 00:09:50,197 with its constant risk of nuclear confrontation, 180 00:09:50,199 --> 00:09:53,533 the president supported a new "flexible" way 181 00:09:53,535 --> 00:09:59,106 to confront and contain communism: limited war. 182 00:09:59,108 --> 00:10:03,877 This is another type of warfare, new in its intensity, 183 00:10:03,879 --> 00:10:06,579 ancient in its origin... 184 00:10:06,581 --> 00:10:11,516 war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins; 185 00:10:11,518 --> 00:10:15,955 war by ambush instead of by combat; 186 00:10:15,957 --> 00:10:18,290 by infiltration instead of aggression. 187 00:10:20,194 --> 00:10:22,728 To fight his "limited wars," 188 00:10:22,730 --> 00:10:25,697 Kennedy hoped to use the elite Green Berets, 189 00:10:25,699 --> 00:10:29,235 special forces trained in guerrilla warfare, 190 00:10:29,237 --> 00:10:31,904 counterinsurgency. 191 00:10:31,906 --> 00:10:36,776 They were meant to be dispatched to hotspots around the world. 192 00:10:37,278 --> 00:10:39,511 Khrushchev said, "We're not going to destroy you 193 00:10:39,513 --> 00:10:41,079 with nuclear weapons, 194 00:10:41,081 --> 00:10:43,849 we're going to destroy you with wars of national liberation." 195 00:10:44,251 --> 00:10:46,251 Everybody talked about the fact 196 00:10:46,253 --> 00:10:51,055 that communism was spreading and it had to be stopped. 197 00:10:51,057 --> 00:10:53,825 You went to Command and General Staff College 198 00:10:53,827 --> 00:10:57,361 and you were playing on maps with nuclear weapons 199 00:10:57,363 --> 00:10:59,130 and so forth. 200 00:10:59,132 --> 00:11:04,035 And I escaped from that by getting into Special Forces. 201 00:11:04,037 --> 00:11:06,805 So that instead of planning what we were going to do 202 00:11:06,807 --> 00:11:11,542 if World War III broke out, we were actually doing stuff. 203 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,446 And Vietnam was a place where we were going to draw the line. 204 00:11:18,284 --> 00:11:20,083 Kennedy sent the Green Berets 205 00:11:20,085 --> 00:11:22,452 to the Central Highlands of Vietnam 206 00:11:22,454 --> 00:11:26,089 to organize mountain tribes to fight the Viet Cong 207 00:11:26,091 --> 00:11:30,828 and to undertake covert missions to sabotage their supply bases 208 00:11:30,830 --> 00:11:33,997 in Laos and Cambodia. 209 00:11:33,999 --> 00:11:38,501 But Kennedy understood that counterinsurgency alone 210 00:11:38,503 --> 00:11:39,703 would never be enough, 211 00:11:39,705 --> 00:11:43,307 so he doubled funding for South Vietnam's army, 212 00:11:43,309 --> 00:11:48,410 dispatched helicopters and APCs, armored personnel carriers. 213 00:11:51,582 --> 00:11:55,451 Kennedy also authorized the use of napalm 214 00:11:55,453 --> 00:11:59,989 and the spraying of defoliants to deny cover to the Viet Cong 215 00:11:59,991 --> 00:12:03,860 and destroy the crops that fed them. 216 00:12:03,862 --> 00:12:07,063 A whole array of chemicals was used, 217 00:12:07,065 --> 00:12:10,532 including one named for the color of the stripes 218 00:12:10,534 --> 00:12:16,572 on the 55-gallon drums in which it came... "Agent Orange." 219 00:12:16,574 --> 00:12:20,209 And the president quietly continued to increase 220 00:12:20,211 --> 00:12:23,178 the number of American military advisors. 221 00:12:23,180 --> 00:12:31,786 Within two years, the number he had inherited would grow to 11,300, 222 00:12:31,788 --> 00:12:34,389 empowered not only to teach 223 00:12:34,391 --> 00:12:37,392 the Army of the Republic of Vietnam... the ARVN... 224 00:12:37,394 --> 00:12:39,527 to fight a conventional war, 225 00:12:39,529 --> 00:12:41,763 but to accompany them into battle, 226 00:12:41,765 --> 00:12:46,401 a violation of the agreement that had divided Vietnam back in 1954. 227 00:12:50,140 --> 00:12:54,209 The administration did its best to hide from the American people 228 00:12:54,211 --> 00:12:56,611 the scale of the buildup that was taking place 229 00:12:56,613 --> 00:12:58,513 on the other side of the world, 230 00:12:58,515 --> 00:13:01,416 fearful that the public would not support 231 00:13:01,418 --> 00:13:08,355 the more active role advisors had begun to play in combat. 232 00:13:08,357 --> 00:13:11,025 Mr. President, a Republican National Committee publication 233 00:13:11,027 --> 00:13:14,462 has said that you are... have been less than candid 234 00:13:14,464 --> 00:13:18,299 with the American people as to how deeply we are involved 235 00:13:18,301 --> 00:13:20,267 in Vietnam. 236 00:13:20,269 --> 00:13:22,837 Could you throw any more light on that? 237 00:13:22,839 --> 00:13:24,906 We have increased our assistance to the government, 238 00:13:24,908 --> 00:13:26,808 its logistics. 239 00:13:26,810 --> 00:13:28,776 We have not sent combat troops there. 240 00:13:28,778 --> 00:13:32,012 Though the training missions that we have there 241 00:13:32,014 --> 00:13:34,915 have been instructed if they are fired upon to... 242 00:13:34,917 --> 00:13:37,884 they are, would of course, fire back, to protect themselves. 243 00:13:37,886 --> 00:13:39,719 But we have not sent combat troops 244 00:13:39,721 --> 00:13:42,056 in the generally understood sense of the word. 245 00:13:42,058 --> 00:13:47,794 So that I... I feel that we are being as frank as the... 246 00:13:47,796 --> 00:13:49,163 as we can be. 247 00:13:49,165 --> 00:13:50,764 I think we... what I have said to you 248 00:13:50,766 --> 00:13:53,667 is a description of our activity there. 249 00:13:58,441 --> 00:14:01,875 I was a child of the Cold War. 250 00:14:01,877 --> 00:14:07,380 When I got off the plane in Saigon on a humid evening in April 1962, 251 00:14:07,382 --> 00:14:11,317 I really believed in all the ideology of the Cold War. 252 00:14:11,319 --> 00:14:12,452 On... 253 00:14:12,454 --> 00:14:15,121 That if we lost South Vietnam, 254 00:14:15,123 --> 00:14:17,591 that the rest of Southeast Asia would fall to the communists. 255 00:14:17,593 --> 00:14:21,495 There was an international communist conspiracy. 256 00:14:21,497 --> 00:14:24,063 We believed fervently in this stuff. 257 00:14:24,965 --> 00:14:28,034 Neil Sheehan was a 25-year-old reporter 258 00:14:28,036 --> 00:14:31,404 for United Press International, UPI. 259 00:14:31,406 --> 00:14:35,574 He had served three years in the Army in Korea and Japan 260 00:14:35,576 --> 00:14:38,443 before deciding to become a newspaperman. 261 00:14:38,445 --> 00:14:42,748 Vietnam was his first full-time overseas assignment, 262 00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:44,750 and his only worry, he remembered, 263 00:14:44,752 --> 00:14:49,522 was that he would get there too late and miss out on the big story. 264 00:14:49,524 --> 00:14:53,826 Sheehan and other reporters rode along as the ARVN mounted 265 00:14:53,828 --> 00:14:57,462 a series of helicopter assaults on enemy strongholds 266 00:14:57,464 --> 00:14:59,865 in the Mekong Delta and elsewhere 267 00:14:59,867 --> 00:15:03,335 and brought terror to the Viet Cong. 268 00:15:03,337 --> 00:15:06,471 American pilots were at the controls. 269 00:15:07,673 --> 00:15:11,275 It was a crusade and it was thrilling. 270 00:15:11,277 --> 00:15:13,845 And you'd climb aboard the helicopters 271 00:15:13,847 --> 00:15:17,181 with the Vietnamese soldiers who were being taken out to battle. 272 00:15:17,183 --> 00:15:18,916 And they'd take off. 273 00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:21,652 And they'd contour-fly, they'd skim across the rice paddies 274 00:15:21,654 --> 00:15:23,921 at about three or four feet above the paddies, 275 00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:27,791 and then pop up over the tree lines that lined the fields. 276 00:15:27,793 --> 00:15:29,160 It was thrilling. 277 00:15:29,162 --> 00:15:30,494 I mean it was absolutely thrilling. 278 00:15:30,496 --> 00:15:33,564 And you believed in what was happening. 279 00:15:33,566 --> 00:15:35,799 I mean you had the sense that we're fighting here 280 00:15:35,801 --> 00:15:39,636 and some day we'll win, and this country will be a better, 281 00:15:39,638 --> 00:15:40,537 better country for our coming. 282 00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:45,475 The new M-113 armored personnel carriers 283 00:15:45,477 --> 00:15:49,179 were capable of churning across rivers and rice paddies 284 00:15:49,181 --> 00:15:51,081 and right through the earthen dikes 285 00:15:51,083 --> 00:15:53,216 that separated one field from the next. 286 00:15:54,787 --> 00:16:00,023 The Viet Cong had nothing with which to stop them. 287 00:16:00,025 --> 00:16:03,417 We were just overwhelming them with force, 288 00:16:03,918 --> 00:16:05,200 with firepower. 289 00:16:05,731 --> 00:16:09,199 And the firefights would be over in a pretty short time. 290 00:16:09,201 --> 00:16:11,902 We have some people running along the dikes. 291 00:16:11,904 --> 00:16:14,805 Actually, the canal is perpendicular 292 00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:16,372 to the one you're attacking now. 293 00:16:16,374 --> 00:16:20,376 They have on black uniforms, and I estimate approximately 3-0. 294 00:16:20,378 --> 00:16:23,079 Do you have them in sight? Over. 295 00:16:23,081 --> 00:16:25,348 That's what was causing us to win, see. 296 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:28,585 And we were winning one after the other. 297 00:16:28,587 --> 00:16:32,255 And we were not meeting a heck of a lot of resistance. 298 00:16:32,257 --> 00:16:36,058 Captain James Scanlon had been stationed in West Germany 299 00:16:36,060 --> 00:16:39,295 and had seen for himself the brutality with which 300 00:16:39,297 --> 00:16:41,964 the communist East Germans dealt with anyone 301 00:16:41,966 --> 00:16:45,468 who dared try to escape to the West. 302 00:16:45,470 --> 00:16:47,870 He was now in the Mekong Delta, 303 00:16:47,872 --> 00:16:50,940 an advisor to the 7th Division of the ARVN, 304 00:16:50,942 --> 00:16:55,444 and had begun to see evidence of Viet Cong brutality as well. 305 00:16:58,915 --> 00:17:02,551 Those of us who talked to the people who fled East Germany, 306 00:17:02,553 --> 00:17:06,688 we saw the need to stop the growth of communism, 307 00:17:06,690 --> 00:17:10,125 to stop the dominoes from being tumbled. 308 00:17:10,127 --> 00:17:12,561 That was a worthy cause. 309 00:17:14,298 --> 00:17:18,066 As the ARVN and their advisors pursued the Viet Cong, 310 00:17:18,068 --> 00:17:20,802 the government of Ngo Dinh Diem had launched 311 00:17:20,804 --> 00:17:25,173 an ambitious program meant to gain control of the countryside 312 00:17:25,175 --> 00:17:27,975 by concentrating the rural population 313 00:17:27,977 --> 00:17:30,645 into thousands of fortified settlements, 314 00:17:30,647 --> 00:17:34,982 ringed with barbed wire and moats and bamboo spikes 315 00:17:34,984 --> 00:17:37,851 meant to keep out the Viet Cong. 316 00:17:37,853 --> 00:17:42,323 They were called strategic hamlets, part of the effort 317 00:17:42,325 --> 00:17:45,459 to win the hearts and minds, and loyalty, 318 00:17:45,461 --> 00:17:47,027 of the Vietnamese people. 319 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:51,666 The French had tried something like it a decade before. 320 00:17:51,668 --> 00:17:55,836 They had called it pacification. 321 00:17:55,838 --> 00:17:58,406 President Diem's strategic hamlet program 322 00:17:58,408 --> 00:18:00,940 is making substantial progress. 323 00:18:00,942 --> 00:18:05,612 About 1,600 of the some 14,000 hamlets 324 00:18:05,614 --> 00:18:09,316 have been fortified to date. 325 00:18:09,318 --> 00:18:11,651 By the summer of 1962, 326 00:18:11,653 --> 00:18:15,054 news from South Vietnam seemed so promising 327 00:18:15,056 --> 00:18:18,925 that Defense Secretary Robert McNamara made sure 328 00:18:18,927 --> 00:18:22,094 the Pentagon was prepared to implement a plan 329 00:18:22,096 --> 00:18:25,598 for a gradual withdrawal of American advisors 330 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,301 to be completed by 1965. 331 00:18:28,303 --> 00:18:31,971 So far as most Americans knew, 332 00:18:31,973 --> 00:18:34,941 the United States was achieving its goal: 333 00:18:34,943 --> 00:18:40,512 a stable, independent, anticommunist state in South Vietnam. 334 00:18:41,714 --> 00:18:45,017 It was "a struggle this country cannot shirk," 335 00:18:45,019 --> 00:18:46,886 the New York Times said, 336 00:18:46,888 --> 00:18:51,123 and the United States seemed to be winning it. 337 00:18:53,027 --> 00:18:56,963 But that same summer, Ho Chi Minh traveled to Beijing 338 00:18:56,965 --> 00:19:00,599 in search of more help from the Chinese. 339 00:19:00,601 --> 00:19:03,903 The American buildup in South Vietnam had alarmed him 340 00:19:03,905 --> 00:19:06,272 and the other leaders in Hanoi. 341 00:19:06,274 --> 00:19:09,640 Ho told the Chinese that American attacks 342 00:19:09,642 --> 00:19:15,513 on North Vietnam itself now seemed only a matter of time. 343 00:19:15,515 --> 00:19:19,584 The Chinese promised to equip and arm tens of thousands 344 00:19:19,586 --> 00:19:22,720 of Vietnamese soldiers. 345 00:19:22,722 --> 00:19:26,358 Meanwhile, the Politburo in Hanoi had directed 346 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:29,727 that every able-bodied North Vietnamese man 347 00:19:29,729 --> 00:19:34,632 be required to serve in the armed forces. 348 00:19:41,508 --> 00:19:43,875 Inspired by their president's call, 349 00:19:43,877 --> 00:19:47,177 thousands of young Americans would join the Peace Corps 350 00:19:47,179 --> 00:19:51,048 and other organizations to help project American ideals 351 00:19:51,050 --> 00:19:53,284 and goodwill around the world. 352 00:20:05,465 --> 00:20:10,234 We were not only there in Vietnam to stop communism, 353 00:20:10,236 --> 00:20:14,104 but there had to be something positive. 354 00:20:14,106 --> 00:20:17,341 We're trying to find out what the Vietnamese people want 355 00:20:17,343 --> 00:20:20,044 and to help them get it. 356 00:20:20,046 --> 00:20:21,478 And that was very simple 357 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,580 but, if you think about it, also very complex. 358 00:20:23,582 --> 00:20:26,016 But it went to the heart, I thought, 359 00:20:26,018 --> 00:20:28,485 of what we were trying to do. 360 00:20:30,022 --> 00:20:33,824 Pete Hunting, a 22-year-old from Oklahoma City, 361 00:20:33,826 --> 00:20:37,494 would go to Vietnam right after college to do what he could 362 00:20:37,496 --> 00:20:40,864 to help poor villagers in the countryside. 363 00:20:49,875 --> 00:20:51,775 Dear Margo, 364 00:20:51,777 --> 00:20:54,243 I finally finished up my work in Phan Rang last week. 365 00:20:54,245 --> 00:20:56,245 Had spent a month working on a windmill 366 00:20:56,247 --> 00:20:58,348 I'd promised the people of one hamlet. 367 00:20:58,350 --> 00:21:03,052 Cost a lot of money, too, which I paid out of my own pocket. 368 00:21:06,859 --> 00:21:09,058 I'm in soaring spirits today 369 00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:12,261 despite all the natural disasters, political intrigues, 370 00:21:12,263 --> 00:21:14,397 and subversive activities. 371 00:21:14,399 --> 00:21:16,933 Pete Hunting worked 372 00:21:16,935 --> 00:21:19,803 for the International Voluntary Services, 373 00:21:19,805 --> 00:21:23,673 a nonprofit organization committed to improving 374 00:21:23,675 --> 00:21:26,842 agriculture, education, and public health. 375 00:21:26,844 --> 00:21:30,045 He was one of hundreds of dedicated aid workers 376 00:21:30,047 --> 00:21:32,815 in South Vietnam. 377 00:21:36,687 --> 00:21:38,921 Latest news on this side of the world 378 00:21:38,923 --> 00:21:40,956 is that I'll almost definitely be extending over here 379 00:21:40,958 --> 00:21:42,992 for another two years, 380 00:21:42,994 --> 00:21:44,994 providing the country stays in one piece that long. 381 00:21:48,232 --> 00:21:50,465 Two years after he arrived, 382 00:21:50,467 --> 00:21:52,968 Pete Hunting was driving in the Mekong Delta 383 00:21:52,970 --> 00:21:55,905 when he ran into a Viet Cong ambush. 384 00:21:55,907 --> 00:21:59,374 He was shot five times in the head... 385 00:22:01,111 --> 00:22:03,078 the first American civilian volunteer 386 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,647 to be killed in Vietnam. 387 00:22:34,277 --> 00:22:36,711 People used to joke in Vietnam 388 00:22:36,713 --> 00:22:38,479 about winning the hearts and minds. 389 00:22:38,481 --> 00:22:42,016 And you hear that expression, but that should not be a joke. 390 00:22:42,018 --> 00:22:44,418 It's a serious, serious problem. 391 00:22:44,420 --> 00:22:46,921 If you pull off a military operation, 392 00:22:46,923 --> 00:22:50,592 and it may be successful on the military basis, 393 00:22:50,594 --> 00:22:53,595 but you destroy a village, 394 00:22:53,597 --> 00:22:57,498 then you've created a village of resistance. 395 00:22:57,500 --> 00:23:01,335 Few advisors understood the unique challenges 396 00:23:01,337 --> 00:23:04,205 of fighting an insurgency in Vietnam 397 00:23:04,207 --> 00:23:08,142 better than Lieutenant Colonel John Paul Vann. 398 00:23:08,144 --> 00:23:10,877 A career soldier from Virginia, 399 00:23:10,879 --> 00:23:13,179 he was the senior American advisor 400 00:23:13,181 --> 00:23:17,250 to the 7th ARVN Division in the Mekong Delta. 401 00:23:17,252 --> 00:23:21,855 Small, wiry and abrasive, John Paul Vann was convinced 402 00:23:21,857 --> 00:23:26,093 he knew how to defeat the Viet Cong. 403 00:23:26,095 --> 00:23:30,631 John Paul Vann was simply the most remarkable soldier 404 00:23:30,633 --> 00:23:31,798 I ever met. 405 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Period. 406 00:23:33,802 --> 00:23:38,639 The biggest challenge of John Paul Vann's life 407 00:23:38,641 --> 00:23:44,678 was somehow saving Vietnam, winning. 408 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,613 That, to him, was the ultimate challenge. 409 00:23:50,151 --> 00:23:51,851 When it became clear to Vann 410 00:23:51,853 --> 00:23:54,820 that the tactics the Americans had taught the ARVN 411 00:23:54,822 --> 00:23:58,024 were beginning to make more enemies than friends, 412 00:23:58,026 --> 00:24:02,795 he sought out newspapermen to spread the word. 413 00:24:02,797 --> 00:24:06,699 He was able to explain to us what was going on. 414 00:24:06,701 --> 00:24:10,102 The important thing was not to alienate the population. 415 00:24:10,104 --> 00:24:13,072 That if you got sniper fire from a hamlet, 416 00:24:13,074 --> 00:24:15,474 you sent in riflemen to take out the sniper. 417 00:24:15,476 --> 00:24:17,843 You didn't shell the place, because you were going to kill 418 00:24:17,845 --> 00:24:20,244 women and kids and destroy houses 419 00:24:20,246 --> 00:24:22,513 and you were going to turn the population against you. 420 00:24:25,018 --> 00:24:28,286 Most press coverage of Vietnam was upbeat 421 00:24:28,288 --> 00:24:31,089 in the tradition of previous wars. 422 00:24:31,091 --> 00:24:36,027 But a handful of young reporters including Neil Sheehan, 423 00:24:36,029 --> 00:24:38,563 David Halberstam of the New York Times, 424 00:24:38,565 --> 00:24:41,199 and Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press, 425 00:24:41,201 --> 00:24:45,070 who spent time in the field with officers like Vann, 426 00:24:45,072 --> 00:24:49,240 were beginning to see that from the Vietnamese countryside, 427 00:24:49,242 --> 00:24:51,475 things looked very different than they did 428 00:24:51,477 --> 00:24:55,445 from the press offices in Washington or Saigon. 429 00:24:55,447 --> 00:24:59,683 So it was terribly important that we not only win the war 430 00:24:59,685 --> 00:25:02,519 but that we as reporters report the truth 431 00:25:02,521 --> 00:25:05,522 that would help to win the war. 432 00:25:05,524 --> 00:25:08,658 We were very fervent in wanting to report the truth 433 00:25:08,660 --> 00:25:11,729 because it was very important to the welfare of our country 434 00:25:11,731 --> 00:25:12,963 and to the welfare of the world. 435 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,802 Sheehan and his colleagues began asking tough questions 436 00:25:18,804 --> 00:25:23,841 about what constituted progress, what victory would look like, 437 00:25:23,843 --> 00:25:26,243 and if the people in the countryside, 438 00:25:26,245 --> 00:25:30,012 where 80% of South Vietnam's population lived, 439 00:25:30,014 --> 00:25:34,917 could ever trust the government in Saigon. 440 00:25:34,919 --> 00:25:37,920 I remember going, during one of Robert McNamara's visits, 441 00:25:37,922 --> 00:25:41,057 out to one of these hamlets. 442 00:25:41,059 --> 00:25:42,559 The Vietnamese general who commanded the area 443 00:25:42,561 --> 00:25:44,160 was telling McNamara what a wonderful thing this was. 444 00:25:44,162 --> 00:25:46,796 And the... the... some of these farmers were down 445 00:25:46,798 --> 00:25:50,533 digging a ditch around the... around the hamlet. 446 00:25:50,535 --> 00:25:53,670 And I looked at their faces and they were really angry. 447 00:25:55,540 --> 00:25:57,307 I mean it was very obvious to me 448 00:25:57,309 --> 00:25:59,876 that if these people could, they'd cut our throats. 449 00:26:04,482 --> 00:26:08,450 Farmers resented being forced to abandon their homes 450 00:26:08,452 --> 00:26:11,020 and move to strategic hamlets. 451 00:26:11,022 --> 00:26:15,158 Corrupt officials siphoned off funds. 452 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,660 And villagers blamed the Diem regime 453 00:26:17,662 --> 00:26:21,630 for failing to protect them from guerrilla attacks. 454 00:26:21,632 --> 00:26:26,903 As the people's anger grew, so did the ranks of the Viet Cong. 455 00:26:26,905 --> 00:26:31,307 It turned out that the Viet Cong were recruiting men 456 00:26:31,309 --> 00:26:34,844 right out of those strategic... so-called strategic hamlets. 457 00:26:34,846 --> 00:26:36,645 And then the whole program fell apart. 458 00:27:00,738 --> 00:27:04,640 Nguyen Ngoc's father was a postal clerk south of Danang. 459 00:27:04,642 --> 00:27:09,244 His brothers and sisters taught in South Vietnamese schools. 460 00:27:09,246 --> 00:27:13,013 But he joined the revolution, and as a political officer, 461 00:27:13,015 --> 00:27:16,951 wrote poems, songs, and slogans to inspire the people 462 00:27:16,953 --> 00:27:21,656 in the countryside to support the Viet Cong. 463 00:27:21,658 --> 00:27:26,227 The Viet Cong cadre would come in and talk to them 464 00:27:26,229 --> 00:27:31,098 and their message is usually , 465 00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:33,634 which means "turn your grief into action. 466 00:27:33,636 --> 00:27:36,103 "Do something about it. 467 00:27:36,105 --> 00:27:38,172 "Join us. 468 00:27:38,174 --> 00:27:39,640 "We'll fight together. 469 00:27:39,642 --> 00:27:44,210 "We'll liberate the country from this corrupt, unjust government. 470 00:27:44,212 --> 00:27:46,246 "We'll throw out the foreigners. 471 00:27:46,248 --> 00:27:48,081 "We'll reunify the country. 472 00:27:48,083 --> 00:27:51,217 "And we'll bring in this great regime 473 00:27:51,219 --> 00:27:52,919 "that will take care of you 474 00:27:52,921 --> 00:27:54,521 and bring economic and social justice." 475 00:27:56,859 --> 00:28:00,026 The Viet Cong ran rival local governments, 476 00:28:00,028 --> 00:28:03,830 complete with their own tax collectors and school teachers, 477 00:28:03,832 --> 00:28:08,067 spies and propagandists, and province chiefs. 478 00:28:10,806 --> 00:28:13,139 To make matters worse, 479 00:28:13,141 --> 00:28:16,975 ARVN troops and American advisors now found themselves 480 00:28:16,977 --> 00:28:20,012 confronted by a new threat: 481 00:28:20,014 --> 00:28:23,248 battalions of well-armed Viet Cong soldiers, 482 00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:26,519 as well as by local guerrillas. 483 00:28:26,521 --> 00:28:28,821 We'd armed them. 484 00:28:28,823 --> 00:28:32,291 You could hear the arming of the Viet Cong. 485 00:28:32,293 --> 00:28:35,795 Back in early '62, they only had one machine gun per battalion. 486 00:28:36,964 --> 00:28:38,597 It was sporadic fire. 487 00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:42,535 Then, as they captured more and more of these American arms, 488 00:28:42,537 --> 00:28:44,503 when you made contact, it fi... 489 00:28:44,505 --> 00:28:46,772 it would build up into a drumfire of automatic 490 00:28:46,774 --> 00:28:48,307 and semi-automatic weapons. 491 00:28:55,114 --> 00:28:58,249 Secretary McNamara decided that he would draw up 492 00:28:58,251 --> 00:29:01,052 some kind of a chart to determine 493 00:29:01,054 --> 00:29:03,988 whether we were winning or not. 494 00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:06,758 And he was putting things in 495 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,561 like numbers of weapons recovered, 496 00:29:09,563 --> 00:29:11,896 numbers of Viet Cong killed. 497 00:29:11,898 --> 00:29:14,131 Very statistical. 498 00:29:16,837 --> 00:29:19,403 And he asked Edward Lansdale, 499 00:29:19,405 --> 00:29:23,174 who was then in the Pentagon as head of Special Operations, 500 00:29:23,176 --> 00:29:25,309 to come down and look at this. 501 00:29:25,311 --> 00:29:29,513 And so Lansdale did and he said, "There's something missing." 502 00:29:29,515 --> 00:29:32,850 And McNamara said, "What?" 503 00:29:32,852 --> 00:29:36,487 And Lansdale said, "The feelings of the Vietnamese people." 504 00:29:36,489 --> 00:29:40,458 You couldn't reduce this to a statistic. 505 00:29:40,460 --> 00:29:45,029 Robert McNamara had vowed to make America's military 506 00:29:45,031 --> 00:29:46,597 "cost-effective." 507 00:29:46,599 --> 00:29:50,368 He demanded that everything be quantified. 508 00:29:50,370 --> 00:29:54,271 In Saigon, General Paul D. Harkins, 509 00:29:54,273 --> 00:29:57,707 head of the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam, 510 00:29:57,709 --> 00:30:01,044 known as MACV, dutifully complied. 511 00:30:01,046 --> 00:30:05,681 He and his staff generated mountains of daily, weekly, 512 00:30:05,683 --> 00:30:08,018 monthly, and quarterly data 513 00:30:08,020 --> 00:30:11,087 on more than a hundred separate indicators, 514 00:30:11,089 --> 00:30:15,591 far more data than could ever be adequately analyzed. 515 00:30:19,031 --> 00:30:21,864 General Harkins had little use for skeptical reporters 516 00:30:21,866 --> 00:30:23,500 like Neil Sheehan. 517 00:30:23,502 --> 00:30:26,136 Bad news was to be buried. 518 00:30:26,138 --> 00:30:30,305 Harkins ignored the alarming after action reports 519 00:30:30,307 --> 00:30:33,976 John Paul Vann and other officers were sending in 520 00:30:33,978 --> 00:30:36,178 from the field. 521 00:30:36,180 --> 00:30:39,114 I was going to be made head of the Vietnam desk 522 00:30:39,116 --> 00:30:41,250 at CIA headquarters. 523 00:30:41,252 --> 00:30:44,587 And the first person of importance that I met 524 00:30:44,589 --> 00:30:46,889 was General Harkins. 525 00:30:46,891 --> 00:30:49,491 And he started out by saying, 526 00:30:49,493 --> 00:30:52,361 "Mr. Gregg, I don't care what you hear from anybody else, 527 00:30:52,363 --> 00:30:54,764 "I can tell you without a doubt we're going to be out of here 528 00:30:54,766 --> 00:30:56,365 with a military victory in six months." 529 00:30:58,069 --> 00:31:00,102 The country's 12 million peasants 530 00:31:00,104 --> 00:31:02,738 can scarcely remember what peace was like. 531 00:31:02,740 --> 00:31:04,706 They're caught between the predatory guerrillas 532 00:31:04,708 --> 00:31:07,241 and the almost equally demanding soldiery. 533 00:31:07,243 --> 00:31:09,644 Their lives are lived in a state of permanent uncertainty, 534 00:31:09,646 --> 00:31:12,346 punctuated by bouts of violence 535 00:31:12,348 --> 00:31:13,882 as government forces come to grips 536 00:31:13,884 --> 00:31:16,150 with the black-clad communist rebel forces 537 00:31:16,152 --> 00:31:17,351 called the Viet Cong. 538 00:33:15,570 --> 00:33:19,905 On our side we were not as committed 539 00:33:19,907 --> 00:33:21,840 and we were... 540 00:33:21,842 --> 00:33:25,210 our leaders were corrupt and incompetent. 541 00:33:25,212 --> 00:33:30,281 And so deep down we'll always have this fear, 542 00:33:30,283 --> 00:33:35,987 this suspicion that in the end it'll be the communists who won. 543 00:33:35,989 --> 00:33:39,557 When John Kennedy assembled 544 00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:41,693 what he thinks is the best and the brightest, 545 00:33:41,695 --> 00:33:47,999 20 years before that in a cave in the northern part 546 00:33:48,001 --> 00:33:50,668 of Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh also put together 547 00:33:50,670 --> 00:33:52,204 his best and the brightest. 548 00:33:52,206 --> 00:33:55,406 And these guys are at it for a while. 549 00:33:55,408 --> 00:33:59,043 And when we show up, they were far along 550 00:33:59,045 --> 00:34:04,949 to consolidating their victory over this inevitable conflict 551 00:34:04,951 --> 00:34:09,554 between Ho Chi Minh and John F. Kennedy's vision. 552 00:34:09,556 --> 00:34:14,592 The more you think about the American strategy, 553 00:34:14,594 --> 00:34:18,396 the more you know 554 00:34:18,398 --> 00:34:20,965 that it was never going to work out particularly well. 555 00:34:36,115 --> 00:34:41,551 I was at my top of my game when I was in combat. 556 00:34:46,759 --> 00:34:49,960 You don't have the luxury to indulge your fear 557 00:34:49,962 --> 00:34:51,962 because other people's lives depend upon 558 00:34:51,964 --> 00:34:53,130 you keeping your head cold. 559 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,074 You know, when something goes wrong, 560 00:35:05,076 --> 00:35:06,509 they call it emotional numbing. 561 00:35:06,511 --> 00:35:08,912 It's not very good in civilian life, 562 00:35:08,914 --> 00:35:10,914 but it's pretty useful in combat. 563 00:35:22,727 --> 00:35:25,461 To be able to get absolutely very cold 564 00:35:25,463 --> 00:35:30,433 about what needs to be done and to stick with it. 565 00:35:36,506 --> 00:35:39,474 To me it's, it's a little bit distressing to realize 566 00:35:39,476 --> 00:35:41,310 that I was at my best 567 00:35:41,312 --> 00:35:43,778 doing something as terrible as war. 568 00:35:53,490 --> 00:35:56,091 President Kennedy has staked his reputation in Asia 569 00:35:56,093 --> 00:35:59,027 on saving South Vietnam from communism. 570 00:35:59,029 --> 00:36:01,463 As the army makes the sweep towards the village 571 00:36:01,465 --> 00:36:03,365 suspected of harboring Viet Cong, 572 00:36:03,367 --> 00:36:06,301 it can't tell whether it will meet resistance. 577 00:38:06,306 --> 00:38:11,242 Each of South Vietnam's 44 provinces had its own chief. 578 00:38:11,244 --> 00:38:14,111 Some were simply political appointees, 579 00:38:14,113 --> 00:38:17,013 corrupt allies of President Diem. 580 00:38:17,015 --> 00:38:22,754 Tran Ngoc Chau, province chief of Kien Hoa, was different. 581 00:38:22,756 --> 00:38:27,692 A privileged judge's son from the old imperial city of Hue, 582 00:38:27,694 --> 00:38:30,695 he and two of his brothers had fought against the French 583 00:38:30,697 --> 00:38:32,264 with the Viet Minh. 584 00:38:32,266 --> 00:38:36,434 But he had refused to join the Communist Party; 585 00:38:36,436 --> 00:38:39,437 he admired their dedication, but disliked the way 586 00:38:39,439 --> 00:38:42,641 they punished those who dared differ with them. 587 00:38:42,643 --> 00:38:45,777 Instead, he left the Viet Minh, 588 00:38:45,779 --> 00:38:48,980 became a major in the army fighting against them, 589 00:38:48,982 --> 00:38:52,884 and eventually so impressed Diem with his insider's knowledge 590 00:38:52,886 --> 00:38:56,854 of communist tactics that he was promoted to colonel 591 00:38:56,856 --> 00:39:02,727 and made chief of Kien Hoa, a Viet Cong stronghold. 592 00:39:02,729 --> 00:39:06,564 He was absolutely incorruptible. 593 00:39:06,566 --> 00:39:11,704 And people came to really understand that here's a guy 594 00:39:11,706 --> 00:39:14,774 who's, even though it's not an elected system, 595 00:39:14,776 --> 00:39:17,443 who never... nevertheless really represents us. 596 00:39:19,347 --> 00:39:21,346 "Give me a budget that equals the cost 597 00:39:21,348 --> 00:39:25,650 of one American helicopter," Chau liked to say, 598 00:39:25,652 --> 00:39:28,386 "and I'll give you a pacified province. 599 00:39:28,388 --> 00:39:32,490 "With that much money, I can raise the standard of living 600 00:39:32,492 --> 00:39:34,193 "of the rice farmers, 601 00:39:34,195 --> 00:39:35,994 "and government officials can be paid enough 602 00:39:35,996 --> 00:39:40,867 so they won't think it necessary to steal." 603 00:39:40,869 --> 00:39:43,369 Rather than hunt down the Viet Cong, 604 00:39:43,371 --> 00:39:45,905 he sought to persuade them. 605 00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:45,164 Back home, Americans were paying little attention 606 00:40:45,166 --> 00:40:47,467 to what was happening in Vietnam. 607 00:40:47,469 --> 00:40:50,303 They were watching The Beverly Hillbillies 608 00:40:50,305 --> 00:40:52,506 and Gunsmoke on TV, 609 00:40:52,508 --> 00:40:55,476 were interested in whether the Yankees would win 610 00:40:55,478 --> 00:40:57,044 the World Series again 611 00:40:57,046 --> 00:41:01,281 and in the recent death of Marilyn Monroe. 612 00:41:04,386 --> 00:41:06,887 But some Americans had been growing impatient 613 00:41:06,889 --> 00:41:10,256 with the slow pace of social change. 614 00:41:10,258 --> 00:41:11,991 We were told in the '50s 615 00:41:11,993 --> 00:41:14,828 that we lived in the best country in the world. 616 00:41:14,830 --> 00:41:18,298 In the middle of, you know, trying to figure out 617 00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:20,701 what it meant to be a citizen of the... 618 00:41:20,703 --> 00:41:23,070 of this best country in the world, 619 00:41:23,072 --> 00:41:24,972 suddenly the civil rights movement exploded 620 00:41:24,974 --> 00:41:27,141 into our consciousness. 621 00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:35,315 We didn't think we had any power. 622 00:41:35,317 --> 00:41:38,485 We didn't think we could be actors in history, 623 00:41:38,487 --> 00:41:40,954 that we could affect things. 624 00:41:48,498 --> 00:41:50,264 And suddenly, you know, 625 00:41:50,266 --> 00:41:52,199 these young black students in the South 626 00:41:52,201 --> 00:41:53,935 were doing exactly that. 627 00:41:53,937 --> 00:41:57,304 And it just blew the tops of our heads off. 628 00:42:18,228 --> 00:42:21,596 Other Americans were concerned about the proliferation 629 00:42:21,598 --> 00:42:25,000 of nuclear weapons in the world. 630 00:42:25,002 --> 00:42:29,037 Perhaps it would be a good thing to put Khrushchev and Kennedy 631 00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:32,874 on an island and not let either one of them off 632 00:42:32,876 --> 00:42:35,477 until they came to an agreement. 633 00:42:58,035 --> 00:43:01,303 And if you were in a café when Diem was giving a speech, 634 00:43:01,305 --> 00:43:03,172 somebody would get up and shut the radio off, 635 00:43:03,174 --> 00:43:04,940 it would be coming in over the radio. 636 00:43:04,942 --> 00:43:07,376 Somebody would get up and they'd just shut the radio off. 637 00:43:07,378 --> 00:43:11,346 I mean, he was not connected with... to his own population. 638 00:43:14,585 --> 00:43:19,521 Diem was simply the opposite of what democracy was. 639 00:43:19,523 --> 00:43:23,358 South Vietnam, in the competition against the North, 640 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,531 that should been, should have been a golden opportunity 641 00:43:28,533 --> 00:43:33,970 to have that society open with the free press, 642 00:43:33,972 --> 00:43:36,105 free expression. 643 00:43:36,107 --> 00:43:39,008 But there was not much choice 644 00:43:39,010 --> 00:43:43,412 if the two system are structurally dictator 645 00:43:43,414 --> 00:43:44,913 and oppressive systems... 646 00:43:44,915 --> 00:43:50,986 one under the Communist Party, one under a family. 647 00:44:08,140 --> 00:44:11,708 Diem's brother, Ngo Dinh Nhu, had been the architect 648 00:44:11,710 --> 00:44:14,311 of the strategic hamlet program, 649 00:44:14,313 --> 00:44:18,548 ran a personal political party that mirrored the techniques 650 00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:21,084 and the ruthlessness of the communists, 651 00:44:21,086 --> 00:44:25,355 and supervised a host of internal security units 652 00:44:25,357 --> 00:44:29,292 that spied on and seized enemies of the regime. 653 00:44:31,396 --> 00:44:33,597 Some reporters who probed too deeply 654 00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:36,065 into what Diem and Nhu were doing 655 00:44:36,067 --> 00:44:38,335 were ordered out of the country. 656 00:44:39,471 --> 00:44:42,005 When an American journalist objected, 657 00:44:42,007 --> 00:44:46,110 Nhu's sharp-tongued wife told him Vietnam had no use 658 00:44:46,112 --> 00:44:48,613 for "your crazy freedoms." 659 00:44:50,216 --> 00:44:52,150 Meanwhile, out in the countryside, 660 00:44:52,152 --> 00:44:56,453 John Paul Vann and other advisors had begun to notice 661 00:44:56,455 --> 00:45:00,223 that the corruption within Diem's regime had filtered down 662 00:45:00,225 --> 00:45:02,292 to the commanders in the field. 663 00:45:02,294 --> 00:45:07,297 Troops, who had once been willing to engage the enemy, 664 00:45:07,299 --> 00:45:11,502 now seemed strangely reluctant. 665 00:45:11,504 --> 00:45:16,440 God, I was told so many times... 666 00:45:16,442 --> 00:45:18,376 You know, "Scanlon... " 667 00:45:18,378 --> 00:45:19,577 Um... 668 00:45:19,579 --> 00:45:25,015 very dangerous, you know, going out there. 669 00:45:25,017 --> 00:45:27,785 John Vann would go out with them at night. 670 00:45:27,787 --> 00:45:31,988 And he noticed that somebody would always cough 671 00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:35,493 or make some other slight noise when it turned out 672 00:45:35,495 --> 00:45:37,961 that the Viet Cong were heading into the ambush site. 673 00:45:37,963 --> 00:45:39,830 They did not want to get in a fight. 674 00:45:39,832 --> 00:45:43,133 South Vietnamese officers were chosen 675 00:45:43,135 --> 00:45:46,737 less for their combat skill than for their loyalty 676 00:45:46,739 --> 00:45:50,441 to President Diem, and their men knew it. 677 00:45:51,911 --> 00:45:53,377 What we should have done is 678 00:45:53,379 --> 00:45:57,981 either forced the Vietnamese... I mean really forced them... 679 00:45:57,983 --> 00:46:00,218 to clean up their act. 680 00:46:00,220 --> 00:46:02,321 And if they wouldn't clean up their act to say, 681 00:46:02,323 --> 00:46:04,789 "We're out of here. 682 00:46:04,791 --> 00:46:07,625 "Because we don't bet on losing horses. 683 00:46:07,627 --> 00:46:10,161 "This is a losing horse. 684 00:46:10,163 --> 00:46:12,597 You are not going to win this insurgency." 685 00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:15,399 We, as Americans, should have understood the desire 686 00:46:15,401 --> 00:46:19,037 of the Vietnamese people to have their own country. 687 00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:21,840 I mean we did the same thing to the Brits. 688 00:46:27,715 --> 00:46:32,618 In October of 1962, the United States and the Soviet Union 689 00:46:32,620 --> 00:46:35,454 came closer than they would ever come again 690 00:46:35,456 --> 00:46:38,323 to mutually assured destruction. 691 00:46:38,325 --> 00:46:41,393 Good evening, my fellow citizens. 692 00:46:41,395 --> 00:46:45,497 This government, as promised, has maintained 693 00:46:45,499 --> 00:46:49,368 the closest surveillance of the Soviet military buildup 694 00:46:49,370 --> 00:46:50,969 on the island of Cuba. 695 00:46:52,206 --> 00:46:54,307 Within the past week, 696 00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:57,744 unmistakable evidence has established the fact 697 00:46:57,746 --> 00:47:01,247 that a series of offensive missile sites 698 00:47:01,249 --> 00:47:06,319 is now in preparation on that imprisoned island. 699 00:47:06,321 --> 00:47:09,588 The Soviets had secretly placed nuclear missiles 700 00:47:09,590 --> 00:47:12,758 90 miles from the United States. 701 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,729 The Joint Chiefs of Staff urged President Kennedy to bomb Cuba. 702 00:47:17,731 --> 00:47:22,001 He resisted and instead ordered a naval blockade 703 00:47:22,003 --> 00:47:26,205 to stop Soviet ships from resupplying the island. 704 00:47:27,975 --> 00:47:33,212 For 13 excruciating days, the world held its breath. 705 00:47:36,884 --> 00:47:40,219 Finally, in exchange for a private pledge 706 00:47:40,221 --> 00:47:43,022 to remove American missiles from Turkey, 707 00:47:43,024 --> 00:47:46,426 Khrushchev agreed to remove his missiles from Cuba. 708 00:47:49,431 --> 00:47:52,465 Neither the United States nor the Soviet Union 709 00:47:52,467 --> 00:47:56,569 wanted so direct a confrontation ever again. 710 00:47:56,571 --> 00:47:59,138 From now on, limited wars, 711 00:47:59,140 --> 00:48:01,741 like the growing conflict in Vietnam, 712 00:48:01,743 --> 00:48:05,010 would assume still greater importance. 713 00:48:08,550 --> 00:48:13,086 I'd grown up in the shadow of the mushroom cloud. 714 00:48:13,088 --> 00:48:17,190 And I remember the... watching President Kennedy speak 715 00:48:17,192 --> 00:48:18,925 during the Cuban Missile Crisis 716 00:48:18,927 --> 00:48:21,228 and wondering if I was ever gonna kiss a girl. 717 00:48:21,230 --> 00:48:24,130 And so this was just continuing that battle 718 00:48:24,132 --> 00:48:26,066 against the Russians. 719 00:48:26,068 --> 00:48:29,669 Only we were fighting, you know, their, their proxies, 720 00:48:29,671 --> 00:48:32,939 the Vietnamese there... but it was monolithic communism. 721 00:48:34,609 --> 00:48:37,578 It didn't matter to me where it was, I was going to go 722 00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:41,715 if my government said we needed to be there. 723 00:48:41,717 --> 00:48:44,718 We were probably the last kids of any generation 724 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:46,120 that actually believed 725 00:48:46,122 --> 00:48:47,654 our government would never lie to us. 726 00:48:53,161 --> 00:48:55,528 We had been writing stories about all the flaws 727 00:48:55,530 --> 00:48:58,464 on the Saigon side... about how they wouldn't fight, 728 00:48:58,466 --> 00:49:01,235 about the corruption, they wouldn't obey orders, 729 00:49:01,237 --> 00:49:02,636 the disorganization. 730 00:49:04,774 --> 00:49:09,377 And then all of a sudden the Viet Cong, for the first time, 731 00:49:09,379 --> 00:49:10,912 the "raggedy-ass little bastards" 732 00:49:10,914 --> 00:49:13,714 as the Harkins's people in Saigon called them, 733 00:49:13,716 --> 00:49:15,449 stood and fought. 734 00:49:15,451 --> 00:49:17,718 And suddenly all the flaws on the Saigon side 735 00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:20,221 were illuminated by this. 736 00:49:20,223 --> 00:49:23,457 Like a star shell, it illuminated the battlefield. 737 00:49:23,459 --> 00:49:24,792 Everything came out. 738 00:49:26,196 --> 00:49:29,597 A few days after Christmas 1962, 739 00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:33,167 the 7th ARVN Division got orders to capture 740 00:49:33,169 --> 00:49:35,503 a Viet Cong radio transmitter 741 00:49:35,505 --> 00:49:40,207 broadcasting from a spot some 40 miles southwest of Saigon 742 00:49:40,209 --> 00:49:43,311 in a village called Tan Thoi. 743 00:49:43,313 --> 00:49:46,180 The village was surrounded by rice paddies. 744 00:49:46,182 --> 00:49:52,220 An irrigation dike linked it to a neighboring hamlet... Ap Bac. 745 00:49:52,222 --> 00:49:56,592 Intelligence suggested no more than 120 guerrillas 746 00:49:56,594 --> 00:49:59,061 were guarding the transmitter. 747 00:49:59,063 --> 00:50:02,464 John Paul Vann helped draw up what seemed to be 748 00:50:02,466 --> 00:50:04,999 a foolproof plan of attack. 749 00:50:05,001 --> 00:50:09,337 Supported by helicopters and armored personnel carriers, 750 00:50:09,339 --> 00:50:13,240 some 1,200 South Vietnamese troops would attack the village 751 00:50:13,242 --> 00:50:15,276 from three sides. 752 00:50:15,278 --> 00:50:18,246 When the surviving Viet Cong tried to flee through the gap 753 00:50:18,248 --> 00:50:22,284 left open for them, as they always had whenever outnumbered 754 00:50:22,286 --> 00:50:24,553 and confronted by modern weapons, 755 00:50:24,555 --> 00:50:28,190 artillery and airstrikes would destroy them. 756 00:50:28,192 --> 00:50:32,761 Vann would observe the fighting from a spotter plane. 757 00:50:32,763 --> 00:50:38,467 But the intelligence underlying it all turned out to be wrong. 758 00:50:38,469 --> 00:50:44,107 There were more than 340 Viet Cong, not 120, in the area. 759 00:50:44,109 --> 00:50:47,110 Communist spies had tipped them off 760 00:50:47,112 --> 00:50:49,379 that they were soon to be attacked. 761 00:50:49,381 --> 00:50:53,249 And this time they would not flee without a fight. 762 00:50:54,852 --> 00:50:57,720 Among them was Le Quan Cong, 763 00:50:57,722 --> 00:51:01,924 who had been a guerrilla fighter since 1951, when he was 12. 764 00:51:16,641 --> 00:51:21,777 At 6:35 in the morning on January 2, 1963, 765 00:51:21,779 --> 00:51:25,214 ten American helicopters ferried an ARVN company 766 00:51:25,216 --> 00:51:28,384 to a spot just north of Tan Thoi. 767 00:51:31,423 --> 00:51:34,658 They met no resistance. 768 00:51:34,660 --> 00:51:38,295 Meanwhile, two South Vietnamese Civil Guard battalions 769 00:51:38,297 --> 00:51:41,432 approached Ap Bac from the South on foot. 770 00:51:44,603 --> 00:51:48,304 The Viet Cong commander let the Civil Guards get within 100 feet 771 00:51:48,306 --> 00:51:50,707 before giving the order to fire. 772 00:51:53,411 --> 00:51:56,012 Several South Vietnamese soldiers were killed. 773 00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:03,187 Survivors hid behind a dike. 774 00:52:06,059 --> 00:52:08,059 Ten more helicopters, 775 00:52:08,061 --> 00:52:11,796 filled with troops and escorted by five helicopter gunships, 776 00:52:11,798 --> 00:52:12,930 roared in to help. 777 00:52:40,126 --> 00:52:44,461 Viet Cong machine guns hit 14 of the 15 aircraft. 778 00:52:44,463 --> 00:52:49,600 Five would be destroyed, killing and wounding American crewmen. 779 00:52:59,579 --> 00:53:02,013 The enemy concentrated their fire on the ARVN 780 00:53:02,015 --> 00:53:05,116 struggling to get out of the downed helicopters. 781 00:53:05,118 --> 00:53:08,119 "It was like shooting ducks for the Viet Cong," 782 00:53:08,121 --> 00:53:09,920 an American crewman remembered. 783 00:53:12,459 --> 00:53:15,493 Colonel Vann circled helplessly overhead. 784 00:53:15,495 --> 00:53:18,063 He radioed the ARVN commander, 785 00:53:18,065 --> 00:53:21,967 urging him to send an APC unit to rescue the men. 786 00:53:23,471 --> 00:53:26,137 I got the word from John Vann 787 00:53:26,139 --> 00:53:29,040 that American helicopters were down. 788 00:53:29,042 --> 00:53:31,543 They were right in front of the Viet Cong positions. 789 00:53:31,545 --> 00:53:35,046 We had Americans killed and wounded 790 00:53:35,048 --> 00:53:37,248 and we had to get over there right away. 791 00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:41,219 Like Vann, Captain Scanlon was only an advisor. 792 00:53:41,221 --> 00:53:44,756 Captain Ly Tong Ba, his ARVN counterpart, 793 00:53:44,758 --> 00:53:47,493 would have to give the order to advance. 794 00:53:47,495 --> 00:53:50,762 Scanlon liked and admired him. 795 00:53:50,764 --> 00:53:53,365 I turned to Ba and said, 796 00:53:53,367 --> 00:53:56,101 "Hey, you know, you got to get over there right away." 797 00:53:56,103 --> 00:54:00,739 And Ba said to me, "I'm not going." 798 00:54:00,741 --> 00:54:04,042 Ba's superiors within the ARVN, far from the battlefield, 799 00:54:04,044 --> 00:54:07,345 had told him to stay put. 800 00:54:07,347 --> 00:54:11,383 And John Vann, my boss, was, uh, screaming at me over the... 801 00:54:11,385 --> 00:54:14,821 over the radio to get them over there. 802 00:54:14,823 --> 00:54:19,158 It took Scanlon an hour to convince Captain Ba to move. 803 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,728 Another two hours were lost 804 00:54:21,730 --> 00:54:24,764 before the APCs could make their way through the paddies 805 00:54:24,766 --> 00:54:26,833 toward the trapped men. 806 00:54:28,903 --> 00:54:31,337 The firing had died down. 807 00:54:31,339 --> 00:54:33,372 Everything was quiet. 808 00:54:33,374 --> 00:54:36,242 You could see the open expanse of rice fields. 809 00:54:36,244 --> 00:54:39,746 And my reaction was, hey, it was all over. 810 00:54:39,748 --> 00:54:42,949 The first two APCs dropped their ramps. 811 00:54:42,951 --> 00:54:45,484 Infantry squads stepped out, 812 00:54:45,486 --> 00:54:48,454 prepared to spray the tree line with automatic fire 813 00:54:48,456 --> 00:54:49,856 as they advanced. 814 00:54:49,858 --> 00:54:52,591 In the past, that had been enough 815 00:54:52,593 --> 00:54:55,928 to make the Viet Cong scurry away. 816 00:54:55,930 --> 00:54:58,097 This time was different. 817 00:55:01,971 --> 00:55:04,004 Eight of the APCs came under attack. 818 00:55:04,006 --> 00:55:07,439 Within minutes, six of their gunners had been killed, 819 00:55:07,441 --> 00:55:08,540 shot through the head. 820 00:55:10,111 --> 00:55:12,278 And boy, we got raked. 821 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,147 So it was like a pool table. 822 00:55:14,149 --> 00:55:15,681 We were on the green 823 00:55:15,683 --> 00:55:18,050 and they were in the pockets shooting at us. 824 00:55:18,052 --> 00:55:20,820 When Captain Ba managed to convince 825 00:55:20,822 --> 00:55:23,522 a few more APCs to advance, 826 00:55:23,524 --> 00:55:26,559 guerrillas leapt from their foxholes 827 00:55:26,561 --> 00:55:28,461 and hurled hand grenades at them. 828 00:55:33,568 --> 00:55:36,236 None did any real damage, 829 00:55:36,238 --> 00:55:39,906 but the drivers were so demoralized that they halted, 830 00:55:39,908 --> 00:55:44,877 turned around, and withdrew behind the wrecked helicopters. 831 00:55:44,879 --> 00:55:46,979 From his spotter plane, 832 00:55:46,981 --> 00:55:51,118 Vann begged the ARVN to make a simultaneous assault 833 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,322 on the enemy by all the remaining ground forces. 834 00:55:55,558 --> 00:55:58,459 ARVN commanders refused. 835 00:56:01,063 --> 00:56:04,064 That night, the Viet Cong melted away, 836 00:56:04,066 --> 00:56:07,267 carrying most of their dead and wounded with them. 837 00:56:09,572 --> 00:56:13,773 At least 80 South Vietnamese soldiers had been killed. 838 00:56:13,775 --> 00:56:19,214 So had three American advisors, including Captain Ken Good, 839 00:56:19,216 --> 00:56:20,215 a friend of Scanlon's. 840 00:56:24,321 --> 00:56:28,323 We stacked the armored personnel carriers with bodies, 841 00:56:28,325 --> 00:56:30,058 stacked them up on top till they... 842 00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:32,060 we couldn't stack any more. 843 00:56:32,062 --> 00:56:38,266 And, um, I wouldn't let the Vietnamese touch the Americans. 844 00:56:38,268 --> 00:56:41,135 So I carried the Americans out. 845 00:56:41,137 --> 00:56:43,505 And, um... 846 00:56:43,507 --> 00:56:45,841 And I was... I was exhausted. 847 00:56:45,843 --> 00:56:51,713 They told me about Ken Good getting killed. 848 00:56:51,715 --> 00:56:56,150 And Ken and I had worked so hard with our two battalions. 849 00:56:56,152 --> 00:57:02,023 And to hear that... he got killed hurt. 850 00:57:02,025 --> 00:57:03,425 Great guy. 851 00:57:05,028 --> 00:57:07,328 Reporters arrived from Saigon 852 00:57:07,330 --> 00:57:11,333 before all of the ARVN dead could be removed. 853 00:57:11,335 --> 00:57:15,605 They were horrified at what they saw and tried to find out 854 00:57:15,607 --> 00:57:18,441 what had really happened. 855 00:57:18,443 --> 00:57:22,945 John Paul Vann took Neil Sheehan and David Halberstam aside 856 00:57:22,947 --> 00:57:24,980 and told them. 857 00:57:24,982 --> 00:57:26,949 The Battle of Ap Bac had been 858 00:57:26,951 --> 00:57:29,718 "a miserable goddamn performance." 859 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,021 "The ARVN won't listen," he said. 860 00:57:32,023 --> 00:57:35,025 "They make the same mistakes over and over again 861 00:57:35,027 --> 00:57:36,960 in the same way." 862 00:57:38,763 --> 00:57:40,397 But back in Saigon, 863 00:57:40,399 --> 00:57:44,234 General Harkins immediately declared victory. 864 00:57:44,236 --> 00:57:47,237 "The ARVN forces had an objective," he said. 865 00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:48,871 "We took that objective. 866 00:57:48,873 --> 00:57:52,409 "The VC left and their casualties were greater 867 00:57:52,411 --> 00:57:55,011 "than those of the government forces. 868 00:57:55,013 --> 00:57:56,512 What more do you want?" 869 00:57:58,150 --> 00:58:00,651 When Halberstam and Sheehan reported 870 00:58:00,653 --> 00:58:03,587 that Ap Bac had in fact been a defeat, 871 00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:07,758 the U.S. Commander in the Pacific denied it all 872 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,894 and urged the reporters to "get on the team." 873 00:58:13,365 --> 00:58:15,499 Ap Bac was terribly important. 874 00:58:15,501 --> 00:58:17,801 They had shot down five helicopters, 875 00:58:17,803 --> 00:58:20,303 which they previously had been terrified of. 876 00:58:20,305 --> 00:58:24,441 They'd stopped the armored personnel carriers. 877 00:58:24,443 --> 00:58:26,578 They demonstrated to their own people 878 00:58:26,580 --> 00:58:29,447 that you could resist the Americans and win. 879 00:58:49,434 --> 00:58:53,170 In Hanoi, the Battle of Ap Bac was seen 880 00:58:53,172 --> 00:58:57,909 by Party First Secretary Le Duan and his Politburo allies 881 00:58:57,911 --> 00:59:00,177 as evidence of the inherent weakness 882 00:59:00,179 --> 00:59:03,314 of the South Vietnamese regime. 883 00:59:03,316 --> 00:59:07,150 Even when faced with American advisors and weaponry, 884 00:59:07,152 --> 00:59:11,054 the Viet Cong had learned how to inflict heavy casualties 885 00:59:11,056 --> 00:59:14,658 on Saigon's forces, and get away again. 886 00:59:16,329 --> 00:59:20,197 In Saigon, President Diem claimed the ARVN were winning, 887 00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:21,599 not losing. 888 00:59:21,601 --> 00:59:24,936 Ap Bac had only been a momentary setback. 889 00:59:24,938 --> 00:59:26,838 And he resented Americans telling him 890 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,542 how to fight his battles or run his country. 891 00:59:30,544 --> 00:59:35,747 The president's sister-in-law, Madame Nhu, went further. 892 00:59:35,749 --> 00:59:39,951 She denounced the Americans as "false brothers." 893 00:59:41,655 --> 00:59:44,522 "We don't have a prayer of staying in Vietnam," 894 00:59:44,524 --> 00:59:48,660 President Kennedy privately told a friend that spring. 895 00:59:48,662 --> 00:59:50,828 "These people hate us. 896 00:59:50,830 --> 00:59:54,265 "But I can't give up a piece of territory like that 897 00:59:54,267 --> 00:59:58,570 to the communists and then get the people to reelect me." 898 01:00:05,511 --> 01:00:07,011 Buddhist monks and nuns are joined 899 01:00:07,013 --> 01:00:08,581 by thousands of sympathizers 900 01:00:08,583 --> 01:00:10,315 to protest the government's restrictions 901 01:00:10,317 --> 01:00:13,085 on the practice of their religion in South Vietnam. 902 01:00:14,922 --> 01:00:18,522 Diem began by alienating the rural population. 903 01:00:18,524 --> 01:00:21,258 And that started the Viet Cong. 904 01:00:21,260 --> 01:00:24,228 Now he was alienating the urban population. 905 01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:26,831 Seventy percent of the population is Buddhist 906 01:00:26,833 --> 01:00:28,432 and the demonstrators clashed with the police 907 01:00:28,434 --> 01:00:32,737 during the week-long series of incidents like this. 908 01:00:32,739 --> 01:00:36,174 In the months that followed the Battle of Ap Bac, 909 01:00:36,176 --> 01:00:40,913 South Vietnam plunged into civil strife that had little to do 910 01:00:40,915 --> 01:00:43,849 with the Viet Cong. 911 01:00:43,851 --> 01:00:47,986 Religion and nationalism were at its heart. 912 01:00:47,988 --> 01:00:51,789 A Catholic minority had for years dominated the government 913 01:00:51,791 --> 01:00:54,459 of an overwhelmingly Buddhist country. 914 01:00:56,196 --> 01:00:58,731 That spring in the city of Hue, 915 01:00:58,733 --> 01:01:01,767 Christian flags had been flown to celebrate 916 01:01:01,769 --> 01:01:04,970 the 25th anniversary of the ordination 917 01:01:04,972 --> 01:01:07,573 of Diem's older brother as a Catholic bishop. 918 01:01:10,911 --> 01:01:14,280 But when the Buddhists of the city flew their flags 919 01:01:14,282 --> 01:01:19,751 to celebrate the 2,527th birthday of Lord Buddha, 920 01:01:19,753 --> 01:01:22,687 police tore them down. 921 01:01:22,689 --> 01:01:25,191 Protesters took to the streets. 922 01:01:27,495 --> 01:01:31,330 The Catholic deputy province chief sent security forces 923 01:01:31,332 --> 01:01:34,200 to suppress the demonstration. 924 01:01:34,202 --> 01:01:35,968 The soldiers opened fire. 925 01:01:36,971 --> 01:01:40,072 Eight protesters died. 926 01:01:40,074 --> 01:01:46,045 The youngest was 12; the oldest was 20. 927 01:01:46,047 --> 01:01:49,649 The Diem regime blamed the Viet Cong. 928 01:01:51,453 --> 01:01:55,054 Monks throughout the country demanded an apology. 929 01:02:04,065 --> 01:02:06,432 They also called for an end to discrimination 930 01:02:06,434 --> 01:02:08,867 by Catholic officials. 931 01:02:08,869 --> 01:02:12,137 Many Buddhists had come to see Diem's policies 932 01:02:12,139 --> 01:02:15,208 as a direct threat to their religious beliefs. 933 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,881 My family was against what Diem was doing. 934 01:02:21,883 --> 01:02:24,585 My mother was convinced 935 01:02:24,587 --> 01:02:28,688 that Diem was destroying the Buddhist faith. 936 01:02:28,690 --> 01:02:32,892 She would go to the pagodas and listen to the monks' speeches. 937 01:02:32,894 --> 01:02:36,196 And she was just extremely upset. 938 01:02:37,699 --> 01:02:38,998 She was not alone. 939 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,002 There was a lot of people like her. 940 01:02:42,004 --> 01:02:45,973 American officials urged Diem and his brother Nhu 941 01:02:45,975 --> 01:02:49,409 to make meaningful concessions to the Buddhists, 942 01:02:49,411 --> 01:02:51,478 for the sake of maintaining unity 943 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,048 in the struggle against communism. 944 01:02:54,050 --> 01:02:55,549 They refused. 945 01:02:58,254 --> 01:03:03,322 On June 10, 1963, Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press 946 01:03:03,324 --> 01:03:06,292 received an anonymous tip: 947 01:03:06,294 --> 01:03:09,563 something important was going to happen the next day 948 01:03:09,565 --> 01:03:13,000 at a major intersection in Saigon. 949 01:03:13,002 --> 01:03:14,802 He took his camera. 950 01:03:22,544 --> 01:03:25,980 To protest the Diem regime's repression, 951 01:03:25,982 --> 01:03:32,219 a 73-year-old monk named Quang Duc set himself on fire. 952 01:03:50,106 --> 01:03:55,310 As a large, hushed crowd watched him burn to death, 953 01:03:55,312 --> 01:03:58,781 another monk repeated over and over again 954 01:03:58,783 --> 01:04:01,817 in English and Vietnamese, 955 01:04:01,819 --> 01:04:04,853 "A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr. 956 01:04:04,855 --> 01:04:07,289 A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr." 957 01:04:14,298 --> 01:04:17,265 I remember they held the ashes 958 01:04:17,267 --> 01:04:19,868 of the monk who burned himself to death 959 01:04:19,870 --> 01:04:22,971 where it was kept in one of the main pagodas. 960 01:04:22,973 --> 01:04:29,145 And lines of people came to pass by, and I saw these women, 961 01:04:29,147 --> 01:04:32,248 not rich women, ordinary Vietnamese women, 962 01:04:32,250 --> 01:04:35,384 take off the one piece of gold they had on, their wedding ring, 963 01:04:35,386 --> 01:04:40,422 and drop it in the bottle to contribute to the struggle. 964 01:04:40,424 --> 01:04:44,326 And I thought to myself, "This regime is over. 965 01:04:44,328 --> 01:04:45,260 It's the end." 966 01:04:49,568 --> 01:04:51,901 Soon other monks would become martyrs. 967 01:04:55,374 --> 01:05:01,010 Fresh outbursts by Madame Nhu only made things worse. 968 01:05:01,012 --> 01:05:04,514 Burning monks made her clap her hands, she said. 969 01:05:04,516 --> 01:05:07,116 If more monks wanted to burn themselves, 970 01:05:07,118 --> 01:05:10,319 she would provide the matches. 971 01:05:10,321 --> 01:05:12,355 The only thing they have done, 972 01:05:12,357 --> 01:05:18,128 they have barbecued one of their monks, 973 01:05:18,130 --> 01:05:23,767 whom they have intoxicated, whom they have abused the confidence. 974 01:05:23,769 --> 01:05:28,237 And even that barbecuing was done 975 01:05:28,239 --> 01:05:30,573 not even with self-sufficient means 976 01:05:30,575 --> 01:05:33,410 because they... they used imported gasoline. 977 01:05:35,346 --> 01:05:38,047 They thought she was arrogant, 978 01:05:38,049 --> 01:05:39,649 she was power hungry. 979 01:05:39,651 --> 01:05:43,020 They suspected her and her husband of being corrupt. 980 01:05:43,022 --> 01:05:49,393 Nhu ran the secret police, which arrested and tortured people. 981 01:05:49,395 --> 01:05:52,663 People feared the Diem regime. 982 01:05:52,665 --> 01:05:56,065 Perhaps more than they feared it, they really hated it. 983 01:05:58,570 --> 01:06:01,203 Students, including many Catholics, 984 01:06:01,205 --> 01:06:03,706 rallied to the Buddhist cause. 985 01:06:03,708 --> 01:06:07,010 So did some army officers. 986 01:06:07,012 --> 01:06:11,449 People among the military had to ask the question, 987 01:06:11,451 --> 01:06:14,819 "Can we continue this kind of situation like that 988 01:06:14,821 --> 01:06:18,322 "when the whole country, country was almost burning 989 01:06:18,324 --> 01:06:20,023 with the kind of protest from the Buddhists?" 990 01:06:20,025 --> 01:06:20,925 You see? 991 01:06:24,797 --> 01:06:28,465 I first became aware of Vietnam because of a burning monk. 992 01:06:31,203 --> 01:06:36,174 We had watched the civil rights movement in the South 993 01:06:36,176 --> 01:06:39,177 and it had set the standard for us 994 01:06:39,179 --> 01:06:45,583 to stand up against injustice, allow yourself to be beaten up, 995 01:06:45,585 --> 01:06:47,952 allow yourself to be attacked by a dog 996 01:06:47,954 --> 01:06:50,321 or hit by a police truncheon. 997 01:06:50,323 --> 01:06:52,357 And we had enormous respect 998 01:06:52,359 --> 01:06:55,293 for people who were willing to go that far. 999 01:06:59,833 --> 01:07:02,934 And then one day in 1963, 1000 01:07:02,936 --> 01:07:07,105 we saw on television a picture of a monk in Saigon. 1001 01:07:08,675 --> 01:07:10,675 This was an extraordinary act. 1002 01:07:13,279 --> 01:07:16,080 Why was a Buddhist monk burning himself 1003 01:07:16,082 --> 01:07:18,717 on the streets of Saigon? 1004 01:07:21,622 --> 01:07:24,156 The protests continued. 1005 01:07:24,158 --> 01:07:29,128 Tensions between Washington and Saigon steadily worsened. 1006 01:07:29,130 --> 01:07:33,132 The more the Kennedy Administration demanded change, 1007 01:07:33,134 --> 01:07:36,968 the more Diem and his brother Nhu seemed to resist. 1008 01:07:38,839 --> 01:07:41,640 The White House announced that a new American ambassador, 1009 01:07:41,642 --> 01:07:46,912 former senator Henry Cabot Lodge, was being sent to Saigon, 1010 01:07:46,914 --> 01:07:49,448 a man eminent enough, the president hoped, 1011 01:07:49,450 --> 01:07:54,587 to make Diem listen more closely to American advice. 1012 01:07:54,589 --> 01:07:58,424 Diem professed to be unimpressed. 1013 01:07:58,426 --> 01:08:01,226 "They can send ten Lodges," he said, 1014 01:08:01,228 --> 01:08:05,197 "but I will not let myself or my country be humiliated, 1015 01:08:05,199 --> 01:08:09,068 not if they train their artillery on this palace." 1016 01:08:09,070 --> 01:08:13,705 He did promise the outgoing ambassador, Frederick Nolting, 1017 01:08:13,707 --> 01:08:16,509 that he would take no further repressive steps 1018 01:08:16,511 --> 01:08:17,944 against the Buddhists. 1019 01:08:19,881 --> 01:08:25,251 Then, a few minutes after midnight on August 21, 1963, 1020 01:08:25,253 --> 01:08:28,788 with Nolting gone and Henry Cabot Lodge's arrival 1021 01:08:28,790 --> 01:08:32,459 still one day away, Diem cut the phone lines 1022 01:08:32,461 --> 01:08:35,962 of all the senior American officials in Saigon 1023 01:08:35,964 --> 01:08:39,632 and sent hundreds of his Special Forces 1024 01:08:39,634 --> 01:08:43,471 storming into Buddhist pagodas in Saigon, Hue, 1025 01:08:43,473 --> 01:08:46,772 and several other South Vietnamese cities. 1026 01:08:46,774 --> 01:08:49,709 Some 1,400 monks and nuns, 1027 01:08:49,711 --> 01:08:55,281 students and ordinary citizens were rounded up and taken away. 1028 01:09:03,057 --> 01:09:07,661 Martial law was imposed, public meetings were forbidden, 1029 01:09:07,663 --> 01:09:12,099 troops were authorized to shoot anyone found on the streets 1030 01:09:12,101 --> 01:09:13,900 after 9:00. 1031 01:09:13,902 --> 01:09:17,303 Tanks guard a pagoda in Saigon 1032 01:09:17,305 --> 01:09:20,073 during South Vietnam's bafflingly complicated crisis 1033 01:09:20,075 --> 01:09:23,110 that has the government of President Ngo Dinh Diem, 1034 01:09:23,112 --> 01:09:26,980 students, and Buddhists, and the United States government 1035 01:09:26,982 --> 01:09:30,717 all trying to guess one another's next move. 1036 01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:34,622 When college students protested in support of the monks, 1037 01:09:34,624 --> 01:09:38,325 Diem closed Vietnam's universities. 1038 01:09:38,327 --> 01:09:42,229 High school students then poured into the streets. 1039 01:09:42,231 --> 01:09:44,832 He shut down all the high schools 1040 01:09:44,834 --> 01:09:46,167 and the grammar schools, too, 1041 01:09:46,169 --> 01:09:49,470 and arrested thousands of school children, 1042 01:09:49,472 --> 01:09:52,339 including the sons and daughters of officials 1043 01:09:52,341 --> 01:09:54,542 in his own government. 1044 01:09:54,544 --> 01:09:57,646 I participated in the demonstrations. 1045 01:09:57,648 --> 01:10:04,553 I strongly believed that that government has to be overthrown 1046 01:10:04,555 --> 01:10:06,688 because it's a dictator government. 1047 01:10:06,690 --> 01:10:08,823 We couldn't stand it anymore 1048 01:10:08,825 --> 01:10:12,627 and this is an opportunity to rise against it. 1049 01:10:12,629 --> 01:10:16,665 Phan Quang Tue was a law student that summer. 1050 01:10:16,667 --> 01:10:20,702 His father was a prominent nationalist whom Diem had jailed 1051 01:10:20,704 --> 01:10:24,038 for calling for greater democracy. 1052 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,542 I was and I'm still a Catholic, 1053 01:10:27,544 --> 01:10:29,911 not a very good Catholic. 1054 01:10:29,913 --> 01:10:31,846 I don't practice religiously. 1055 01:10:31,848 --> 01:10:33,615 But I'm a Catholic. 1056 01:10:35,252 --> 01:10:36,784 I was rightly arrested 1057 01:10:36,786 --> 01:10:39,954 because I did participate in demonstration. 1058 01:10:39,956 --> 01:10:43,057 And I was interrogated 1059 01:10:43,059 --> 01:10:45,927 and briefly tortured, beaten a little bit. 1060 01:10:49,500 --> 01:10:52,301 Henry Cabot Lodge took over as U.S. ambassador 1061 01:10:52,303 --> 01:10:53,902 in the midst of the turmoil. 1062 01:10:53,904 --> 01:10:55,371 And he has reported to have demanded 1063 01:10:55,373 --> 01:10:57,639 that President Diem's brother Nhu be ousted 1064 01:10:57,641 --> 01:10:59,807 or U.S. aid to Vietnam will be cut. 1065 01:11:03,247 --> 01:11:05,313 In the wake of the pagoda raids, 1066 01:11:05,315 --> 01:11:07,716 a small group of South Vietnamese generals 1067 01:11:07,718 --> 01:11:11,453 contacted the CIA in Saigon. 1068 01:11:11,455 --> 01:11:14,923 Diem's brother Nhu was now largely in control 1069 01:11:14,925 --> 01:11:17,025 of the government, they said. 1070 01:11:17,027 --> 01:11:21,797 What would Washington's reaction be if they mounted a coup? 1071 01:11:21,799 --> 01:11:24,933 President Kennedy and his senior advisors 1072 01:11:24,935 --> 01:11:29,838 happened to be out of town, so Roger Hilsman, Jr., 1073 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,308 assistant secretary of state for Far Eastern affairs 1074 01:11:33,310 --> 01:11:35,877 and a critic of the Diem regime, 1075 01:11:35,879 --> 01:11:39,948 took it upon himself to draft a cable with new instructions 1076 01:11:39,950 --> 01:11:42,918 for Ambassador Lodge. 1077 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,889 The U.S. government could no longer tolerate a situation 1078 01:11:46,891 --> 01:11:51,126 in which power lay in Nhu's hands, it said. 1079 01:11:51,128 --> 01:11:54,163 Diem should be given a chance to rid himself of his brother. 1080 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,468 If he refused, Lodge was to tell the generals, 1081 01:11:59,470 --> 01:12:02,938 "then we must face the possibility that Diem himself 1082 01:12:02,940 --> 01:12:06,875 cannot be preserved." 1083 01:12:06,877 --> 01:12:10,613 The president was vacationing at Hyannis Port, Massachusetts. 1084 01:12:10,615 --> 01:12:14,517 Undersecretary of State George Ball read part of the cable 1085 01:12:14,519 --> 01:12:17,687 to him over the phone. 1086 01:12:17,689 --> 01:12:20,022 Since the early 1950s, 1087 01:12:20,024 --> 01:12:22,558 the United States government had encouraged 1088 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,963 and even orchestrated other Cold War coups in Iran, Guatemala, 1089 01:12:27,965 --> 01:12:32,569 the Congo, and elsewhere. 1090 01:12:32,571 --> 01:12:36,540 Kennedy decided to approve Hilsman's cable 1091 01:12:36,542 --> 01:12:39,709 in part because he thought his top advisors 1092 01:12:39,711 --> 01:12:41,878 had already endorsed it. 1093 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,848 They had not. 1094 01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:50,053 And somehow, because of a cable that came out from Washington, 1095 01:12:50,055 --> 01:12:53,323 Lodge decided that the only solution was to get rid 1096 01:12:53,325 --> 01:12:57,094 of not just Ngo Dinh Nhu, the bad brother, 1097 01:12:57,096 --> 01:12:59,763 but also of Diem himself. 1098 01:12:59,765 --> 01:13:01,866 And that started us on this whole business 1099 01:13:01,868 --> 01:13:04,668 of promoting a coup. 1100 01:13:04,670 --> 01:13:08,205 And it was not a good idea. 1101 01:13:08,207 --> 01:13:10,774 I just had a feeling of impending disaster. 1102 01:13:12,144 --> 01:13:14,878 On September 2, 1963, 1103 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,548 Labor Day, Walter Cronkite of CBS News 1104 01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:21,184 interviewed President Kennedy. 1105 01:13:21,186 --> 01:13:25,256 The president used the opportunity to deliver a message 1106 01:13:25,258 --> 01:13:27,191 to President Diem. 1107 01:13:27,193 --> 01:13:30,928 Mr. President, the only hot war we've got running at the moment 1108 01:13:30,930 --> 01:13:33,631 is of course the one in Vietnam, 1109 01:13:33,633 --> 01:13:36,567 and we've got our difficulties there, quite obviously. 1110 01:13:36,569 --> 01:13:41,205 I don't think that unless a greater effort is made 1111 01:13:41,207 --> 01:13:43,207 by the government to win popular support 1112 01:13:43,209 --> 01:13:44,675 that the war can be won out there. 1113 01:13:44,677 --> 01:13:46,577 In the final analysis, it's their war. 1114 01:13:46,579 --> 01:13:50,481 Hasn't every indication from Saigon been 1115 01:13:50,483 --> 01:13:52,583 that President Diem has no intention 1116 01:13:52,585 --> 01:13:53,584 of changing his pattern? 1117 01:13:53,586 --> 01:13:54,619 If he doesn't change it, 1118 01:13:54,621 --> 01:13:56,621 of course, that's his decision. 1119 01:13:56,623 --> 01:13:58,656 He has been there ten years and, as I say, 1120 01:13:58,658 --> 01:14:00,058 he has carried this burden 1121 01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:01,459 when he has been counted out on a number of occasions. 1122 01:14:01,461 --> 01:14:02,593 Our best judgment is 1123 01:14:02,595 --> 01:14:05,130 that he can't be successful in this basis. 1124 01:14:05,132 --> 01:14:07,799 But I don't agree with those who say we should withdraw. 1125 01:14:07,801 --> 01:14:09,067 That would be a great mistake. 1126 01:14:09,069 --> 01:14:10,468 That'd be a great mistake. 1127 01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:12,404 I know people don't like Americans to be engaged 1128 01:14:12,406 --> 01:14:13,504 in this kind of an effort. 1129 01:14:13,506 --> 01:14:15,975 47 Americans have been killed. 1130 01:14:15,977 --> 01:14:18,044 We're in a very 1131 01:14:18,046 --> 01:14:20,879 desperate struggle against the communist system. 1132 01:14:20,881 --> 01:14:24,182 And I don't want Asia to pass into the control of the Chinese. 1133 01:14:24,184 --> 01:14:26,418 Do you think that this government still has time 1134 01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:28,954 to... to regain the support of the people? 1135 01:14:28,956 --> 01:14:30,989 I do, I do. 1136 01:14:30,991 --> 01:14:34,292 With changes in policy and perhaps in personnel, 1137 01:14:34,294 --> 01:14:35,961 I think it can. 1138 01:14:35,963 --> 01:14:39,531 If it doesn't make those changes, 1139 01:14:39,533 --> 01:14:41,600 I would think that the chances of winning it 1140 01:14:41,602 --> 01:14:43,135 would not be very good. 1141 01:14:45,073 --> 01:14:47,974 Despite the cable, Kennedy and his advisors 1142 01:14:47,976 --> 01:14:51,310 were sharply divided about a coup. 1143 01:14:51,312 --> 01:14:56,682 Robert McNamara, Maxwell Taylor, Vice President Lyndon Johnson, 1144 01:14:56,684 --> 01:15:01,119 and the head of the CIA all cautioned against it, 1145 01:15:01,121 --> 01:15:04,590 because, while none of them especially admired Diem, 1146 01:15:04,592 --> 01:15:09,261 they did not believe there was any viable alternative. 1147 01:15:09,263 --> 01:15:12,298 Fritz Nolting was called in. 1148 01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:14,868 And he said, "As difficult as they are to deal with, 1149 01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:19,873 "there is nobody with the guts and sangfroid in Vietnam 1150 01:15:19,875 --> 01:15:21,741 "of Diem and his brother Nhu. 1151 01:15:21,743 --> 01:15:25,211 "And if we let them go, we will be saddled 1152 01:15:25,213 --> 01:15:29,115 by a descending cycle of mediocre generals." 1153 01:15:29,117 --> 01:15:30,951 And he was absolutely correct. 1154 01:15:32,855 --> 01:15:35,722 But several State Department officials believed 1155 01:15:35,724 --> 01:15:40,593 that without fresh leadership, South Vietnam could not survive. 1156 01:15:40,595 --> 01:15:43,730 The debate intensified. 1157 01:15:45,033 --> 01:15:47,066 "My God," the president said, 1158 01:15:47,068 --> 01:15:50,436 "my administration is coming apart." 1159 01:15:50,438 --> 01:15:53,840 In the end, Kennedy instructed Lodge 1160 01:15:53,842 --> 01:15:56,309 to tell the renegade generals 1161 01:15:56,311 --> 01:15:58,712 that while the United States does not wish 1162 01:15:58,714 --> 01:16:02,516 to stimulate a coup, it would not thwart one either. 1163 01:16:04,153 --> 01:16:07,254 The generals laid their plans. 1164 01:16:13,595 --> 01:16:19,232 On November 1, 1963, troops loyal to the plotters 1165 01:16:19,234 --> 01:16:21,501 seized key installations in Saigon 1166 01:16:21,503 --> 01:16:24,805 and demanded Diem and Nhu surrender. 1167 01:16:27,577 --> 01:16:30,078 The battle for the city went on for 18 hours 1168 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,414 and most of it was centered on the presidential palace. 1169 01:16:33,416 --> 01:16:36,750 Just after 6:30 in the morning Saturday, the shooting ceased. 1170 01:16:45,927 --> 01:16:51,199 Diem and Nhu escaped, took sanctuary in a church, 1171 01:16:51,201 --> 01:16:54,335 and agreed to surrender to the rebels in exchange 1172 01:16:54,337 --> 01:16:58,139 for the promise of safe passage out of the country. 1173 01:16:58,141 --> 01:17:01,642 They were picked up in an armored personnel carrier... 1174 01:17:03,646 --> 01:17:07,781 And murdered soon after they climbed inside. 1175 01:17:12,522 --> 01:17:16,057 Madame Nhu survived the coup. 1176 01:17:16,059 --> 01:17:19,128 She was on a goodwill tour in the United States. 1177 01:17:24,601 --> 01:17:27,168 The system was overthrown on November 1. 1178 01:17:27,170 --> 01:17:29,938 I was released November 4. 1179 01:17:29,940 --> 01:17:35,910 And it was the most exciting moment in the life of Saigon. 1180 01:17:37,948 --> 01:17:43,352 The excitement, you could feel it in the air. 1181 01:17:43,354 --> 01:17:47,857 I was thinking that, yeah, it's a good thing. 1182 01:17:47,859 --> 01:17:51,526 Diem was making it impossible to win the war 1183 01:17:51,528 --> 01:17:55,096 because people were so against him 1184 01:17:55,098 --> 01:17:59,400 that the war would be lost if he stayed in power. 1185 01:18:01,204 --> 01:18:03,437 My father was a bit worried 1186 01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,274 because he didn't know who was going to replace Diem. 1187 01:18:08,279 --> 01:18:10,913 Ambassador Lodge reported to Washington 1188 01:18:10,915 --> 01:18:15,517 that "every Vietnamese has a smile on his face today." 1189 01:18:15,519 --> 01:18:19,254 "The prospects are now for a shorter war," he said, 1190 01:18:19,256 --> 01:18:22,224 "provided the generals stay together. 1191 01:18:22,226 --> 01:18:25,027 "Certainly officers and soldiers 1192 01:18:25,029 --> 01:18:28,263 who can pull off an operation like this," he continued, 1193 01:18:28,265 --> 01:18:31,634 "should be able to do very well on the battlefield 1194 01:18:31,636 --> 01:18:33,969 if their hearts are in it." 1195 01:18:37,041 --> 01:18:40,210 President Kennedy was not so sure. 1196 01:18:40,212 --> 01:18:44,614 He was appalled that Diem and Nhu had been killed. 1197 01:18:44,616 --> 01:18:48,284 Three days later, he dictated his own rueful account 1198 01:18:48,286 --> 01:18:52,188 of the coup and his concerns for the future. 1199 01:18:53,925 --> 01:18:57,894 Monday, November 4, 1963. 1200 01:18:57,896 --> 01:19:00,896 Over the weekend the coup in Saigon took place. 1201 01:19:00,898 --> 01:19:03,799 It culminated three months of conversation, 1202 01:19:03,801 --> 01:19:09,105 which divided the government here and in Saigon. 1203 01:19:09,107 --> 01:19:14,244 I feel that we must bear a good deal of responsibility for it, 1204 01:19:14,246 --> 01:19:17,280 beginning with our cable of August 1205 01:19:17,282 --> 01:19:20,015 in which we suggested the coup. 1206 01:19:20,017 --> 01:19:22,853 I should not have given my consent to it 1207 01:19:22,855 --> 01:19:25,021 without a roundtable conference. 1208 01:19:27,226 --> 01:19:32,730 I was shocked by the death of Diem and Nhu. 1209 01:19:32,732 --> 01:19:36,932 The way he was killed made it particularly abhorrent. 1210 01:19:36,934 --> 01:19:39,502 The question now is whether the generals can stay together 1211 01:19:39,504 --> 01:19:43,473 and build a stable government or whether public opinion in Saigon 1212 01:19:43,475 --> 01:19:47,177 will turn on this government as repressive and undemocratic 1213 01:19:47,179 --> 01:19:48,979 in the not-too-distant future. 1214 01:19:54,153 --> 01:19:56,487 Kennedy would not live to see the answer 1215 01:19:56,489 --> 01:19:59,122 to the question he had asked. 1216 01:19:59,124 --> 01:20:03,661 He was murdered in Dallas 18 days later. 1217 01:20:03,663 --> 01:20:08,666 There were now 16,000 American advisors in South Vietnam. 1218 01:20:08,668 --> 01:20:14,105 Their fate and the fate of that embattled country rested 1219 01:20:14,107 --> 01:20:19,343 with another American president, Lyndon Baines Johnson. 1220 01:20:36,863 --> 01:20:38,997 We thought we were the exceptions to history, 1221 01:20:38,999 --> 01:20:40,565 we Americans. 1222 01:20:40,567 --> 01:20:43,302 History didn't apply to us. 1223 01:20:43,304 --> 01:20:45,536 We could never fight a bad war. 1224 01:20:45,538 --> 01:20:47,538 We could never represent the wrong cause. 1225 01:20:47,540 --> 01:20:48,539 We were Americans. 1226 01:20:49,876 --> 01:20:51,209 Well, in Vietnam it proved 1227 01:20:51,211 --> 01:20:53,577 that we were not an exception to history. 1228 01:23:49,993 --> 01:23:54,993 - Synced and Corrected by chamallow for www.addic7ed.com - - Resynced by Ornlu Wolfjarl - 91949

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