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I hated the Philippines
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As soon as we got there,
it was bad, bad news
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It was one of those places where you
knew they were waiting for a fight
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It was a very negative vibe
the moment we got off the plane
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So we were a bit frightened
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We got in this car,
not even with Neil
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The guy just drove off with us four.
Our bags were on the runway
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Neil Aspinall
Tour Manager
Those little briefcases
had the marijuana in them
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so I had to...
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While the confusion was going on
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I put them in the boot of the limo
I was going to be in
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I just said "Take me to where
you've taken the Beatles"
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I thought, God, this is it,
we're going to get busted
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They took us away and drove us to
Manila harbour and put us on a boat
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and took us out to this yacht
anchored in the harbour
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I never really understood
why they got put on this boat
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I just remember Brian Epstein
really flustered
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He must have been with, maybe...
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the Philippine promoter,
agent or somebody
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He was yelling and shouting
and he appeared on the scene
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They were all yelling and then
they took us back off the boat
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and drove us in the car
to a hotel suite
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Then we did a concert
which again had a big problem
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because Brian Epstein had made
a contract for a stadium
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Rizal Memorial Football Stadium
Manila 4th July 1966
or a situation for I don't know
how many thousands of people
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Maybe 2000-5000 people,
something like that
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When we got there, it was like
the Monterey Pop Festival
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Just millions - 200000
people on that site
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We did the show
and I didn't know personally...
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that Madame Marcos
had invited us to dinner
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Normally we only get invited by silly
Ambassadors wanting to see us
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So somebody set it up
and we didn't know about it
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"It is indeed a great honour,
but it's our day off so we can't go"
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We were very firm. We don't get many
days off to stuff in a royal reception
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John and I were sharing a room
after the gig and in the morning...
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we phoned for breakfast and newspapers
as we like to read about ourselves
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Can we have egg and bacon
and all the newspapers?
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Yes
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We were just in our beds, chatting
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doing whatever we were doing
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Time went by so we called again
"Excuse me, can we have our breakfast?"
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Still nothing happened
so we put the TV on
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There was this horrific TV show
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of Madame Marcos screaming
"They've let me down"
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All these shots of the cameramen...
tip the camera on to empty plates
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and up to the faces of little kids crying
because the Beatles hadn't come
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And the TV commentator saying
"And they're still not here yet"
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"The Beatles are supposed to be here"
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We were amazed, couldn't believe it
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We just watched ourselves
not arriving at the Presidential Palace
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I don't recall much of what happened
until the newspapers arrived
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and the TV news, it was:
"Beatles snub First Family"
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Then things started
to get really weird
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Come on, get out of bed, get packed,
we're getting out of here
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As we started to get to the car,
we really had no help
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We got downstairs
and there was one motor bike
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After this huge motorcade had brought
us in, there was just one guy
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At the airport there's chanting,
people hating us, all the way
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We were put into the transit lounge
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Then we got pushed
from one corner to another
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"You treated like ordinary pasenger!"
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They were saying "Ordinary passenger!"
He doesn't get kicked, does he?
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They started knocking over
our road managers
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That worried you?
- Yeah, I swear there were 30 of them
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What do you say they were?
- I saw five in sort of outfits
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that were kicking
and booing and shouting
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Did you get kicked?
- No, I moved when they touched me
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I was petrified. I could have been
kicked and not known it
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There's the famous story of John
and I hiding behind these nuns
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We thought, it's a Catholic country,
they won't beat up nuns
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We got on the British Airways plane,
all kissing the seats
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You know, this is a little piece
of Britain
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It was feeling you were in a foreign
country and all the rules had changed
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They did carry guns after all
so you weren't too gung-ho
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Then an announcement:
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"Will Mr Epstein, Mr Evans
and Mr Barrow..."
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That was Tony Barrow,
our press agent at the time
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"...will they get off the plane"
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And Mal, who was the nicest,
gentlest person -
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a big guy, but really sweet -
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he went past me down the aisle
of the plane, breaking out in tears
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He said "Tell Lil I love her."
That's his wife
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Because he thought the plane would go
and he'd be stuck in Manila
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We sat there for what seemed
a couple of hours
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It was probably 30 minutes,
maybe an hour
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and they got back on the plane
and it was allowed to leave
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They took the money off Brian Epstein
that we'd earned at the concert
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And that was it, we got out of there
and it was such a relief
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but I felt such resentment
for those people
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It's probably the most frightening...
I've never been back
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We'll never go to any
nut-houses again
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But the nice thing about it
was that in the end...
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when we found out that it was Marcos
and what he'd been doing to his people
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and what lmelda had been doing
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and the rip-off it all allegedly was
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We were glad to have done it
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We must have been the only people
who ever dared to snub Marcos
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Do any of you have plans
to record on your own?
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We do at home
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In fact we have done. Eleanor Rigby
was Paul on his own and...
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We were just drinking tea
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Brian Epstein
New York 6th August 1966
I have prepared a statement
which I will read
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which has had John Lennon's
absolute approval by telephone
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This is as follows:
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"The quote which John Lennon made
to a London columnist three months ago
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"has been quoted and represented
entirely out of context"
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George Martin
Record Producer
Early in 1966, John was interviewed
in the Evening Standard
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and he remarked that the Beatles
were more popular than Jesus Christ
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Was it a mistake? In the short term, yeah.
Maybe not in the long term
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But he said "I don't know what's
wrong with the church
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"At the moment the Beatles
are bigger than Jesus Christ"
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Like they're not building Jesus enough.
That was taken out of context in America
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There was all this
big palaver going on
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Anyway, we got to America.
I think we did a press conference
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where John, under the pressure
of the cameras and the Press...
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You know, just the stress
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of having to deal with this thing
that he in effect had caused
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If I'd said television is more popular,
I might have got away with it
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Chicago 11th August 1966
I was talking to a friend. I said Beatles
as a remote thing, not what I think
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but as the Beatles
like other people see us
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I just said they are having more
influence on kids and things
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than anything, including Jesus,
but I said it in the wrong way
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Some teenagers have repeated
your statements, saying:
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"I like the Beatles more than
Jesus Christ." What about that?
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Originally I pointed out that fact
in reference to England
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That we meant more to kids than
Jesus did, or religion at that time
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I wasn't knocking it
but just saying it as a fact
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And it's true,
more for England than here
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I'm not saying we're better or comparing
us with Jesus Christ as a person
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or God as a thing, or whatever it is
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I just said what I said and it was
taken wrong, and now it's all this
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The repercussions were big
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Particularly what they
call the Bible belt
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Down the south there,
they were having a field day
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We've got footage
of a disc jockey saying:
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"Come and bring your Beatle trash
and deposit it here"
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"...to one of our 14 pickup points
in Birmingham, Alabama..."
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The photos showed middle-aged DJs
and 12-year-olds burning LP covers
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Millions of kids were burning
their Beatle records
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There were bonfires of them, which was
OK 'cos then they re-bought them
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The Beatles said in the newspapers
that they're getting better than Jesus
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The Ku-Klux-Klan,
being a religious order,
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will come out here the night
that they appear here
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We're going to demonstrate
with different ways and tactics
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to stop this performance
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The Klan is going to come out here
and make a stop to these accusations
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This is nothing but blasphemy and
we'll stop it any terror way we can
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We're known as a terror organisation...
- Terror organisation?
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We have ways and means to stop this
- What ways and means?
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There will be a lot of surprises
when they get here
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My image as anti-Christ or anti-religious
was wrong. I'm a most religious fella
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Well, it looks like the bloom
is off the Beatles
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Last year, not an empty seat in
Shea stadium - this year, thousands
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Perhaps 15000 or 20000 empty seats
in an arena that holds 56000
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Oh dear, what a failure,
we only sold 50000?
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Miserable... we were dying
on our feet there!
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Yeah, there was big news
about that, you know
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They've only sold 50000 seats!
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"It's all over for the Beatles" says
Roger Whittaker of the Da!! As Times
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OK - I don't ever remember
going there twice
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Are you a Beatles fan, or are you here
because it's the right thing to do?
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I love the Beatles
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I bet there's a group you prefer now
- No group's better than the Beatles
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Aren't they on their way out?
- No, they're still strong
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Are the Beatles out of style?
- They'll never go out of style
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Which group is better than the Beatles?
- The Beatles, I love them
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Don't you think this craze is silly
and strictly for girls?
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No, they are very talented musicians
and songwriters, excellent showmen
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You like them?
- Yeah
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How long do you think they'll last?
- As long as they keep playing
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You know the Beatles
bring joy into the world
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We forget our cares when we hear
Beatle records. They're fun
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How long do you think
the Beatles can last?
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I wish they'd last for ever, they could
bring happiness to everybody
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They're less popular
than they were months ago
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Is there another group you like better?
- There is
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Which one?
- Herman and the Hermits
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It doesn't matter if people don't like
our records, our looks or what we say
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They're entitled to not like us
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and we're entitled not to have
anything to do with them
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We've all got our rights,
you know... Harold
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There was this other thing
of this woman...
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A famous psychic
she was supposed to be
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She'd predicted Kennedy's
assassination and other things
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She was saying in the papers the
Beatles would die in a plane crash
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All this time, they were
getting death threats
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It wasn't long since President Kennedy
had been assassinated
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I remember going to one of their
concerts at the Red Rock Stadium
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I climbed up on a gantry overlooking
the stage with Brian
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and looked down at the boys
during the performance
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The amphitheatre at Red Rocks
is such that a sniper on the hill
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could pick off any of those fellows
at any time, no problem
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I was very aware of this.
So was Brian, and so were the boys
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How much of a good thing can you have?
How long can you sustain things?
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Every tour we'd done
had just gone great
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But we were getting fed up
because we'd been at it so long
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It gets gruelling,
one Holiday Inn after another
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Just the general Beatlemania,
you know... it took its toll
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We were seeing it then
no longer as like...
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a naive kind of... just on the buzz
of our fame and success
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By this time,
the dental experience
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had made us see it
from a different light
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It was no longer fun any more
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I don't think anyone
didn't want to stop touring
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Paul would have gone on longer
than George and I
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But you'll have to
ask Paul about that
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"Touring's good, it keeps us sharp"
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"I'd keep music live."
I'd been sort of a bit that attitude
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But finally I agreed with them
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I think it was George and John
who were particularly fed up
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We might have been waxworks
for the good we did there
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Nobody heard anything,
not even a basic beat
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because they were too busy
tearing each other up
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We were just tired, you know
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It had been four years of legging
around screaming in this mania
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We were tired, we needed the rest
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By the time we got to Candlestick Park,
we knew it wasn't fun any more
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I think that was the main point
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We'd always try to keep... you've
got to keep some fun in it for yourself
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In anything you do, you know
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We'd been pretty good at that.
We'd enjoyed touring and TV
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We'd enjoyed Europe,
we'd enjoyed America
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Candlestick Park
San Francisco 29th August 1966
But now, even America
was beginning to pale
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So by then it was: Don't tell anyone,
but this is probably our last gig
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There was big talk
at Candlestick Park
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That very period of
"This has got to end. This is it"
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But my... we went further than that
228
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We got back to England
before we finally said "That's it"
229
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I certainly felt that we weren't
going to tour again like that
230
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I never really projected
into the future
231
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I was thinking this
is going to be such a relief
232
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to not have to go through
that madness
233
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I don't remember feeling negative
about the band, but about touring
234
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But you always forget the bad bits.
I remember the band as being quite good
235
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I'm sorry for the people
who can't see us live
236
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Sometimes you haven't missed anything
because you wouldn't have heard us
237
00:22:17,850 --> 00:22:20,512
but sometimes I think
you might have enjoyed it
238
00:24:15,734 --> 00:24:21,969
The Beatles were then just four lads
on that rather dimly lit stage
239
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We were getting worse as a band
while all those people were screaming
240
00:24:31,650 --> 00:24:35,313
It was lovely that they liked us
but we couldn't hear to play
241
00:24:35,454 --> 00:24:40,187
The only place we could develop was in
the studio, where we could hear ourselves
242
00:24:40,325 --> 00:24:43,954
The most important thing
was the safety aspect
243
00:24:44,096 --> 00:24:47,725
Soon after that, it became terrorism
244
00:24:47,833 --> 00:24:51,064
When we were going,
it was only us and two people
245
00:24:51,236 --> 00:24:55,263
All those things happened,
like people threatening Ringo
246
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,671
or saying the plane was...
- Snipping bits of hair off and stuff
247
00:24:58,811 --> 00:25:03,942
The plane would crash, hurricanes,
race riots, student riots
248
00:25:04,082 --> 00:25:08,849
There was always some big thing
going on when we pulled into town
249
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We'd come in the middle with this mania
and it would be chaos
250
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It was just becoming too difficult
on the nervous system
251
00:25:20,265 --> 00:25:25,066
When we'd all decided it was
"What are we going to do? Announce it?"
252
00:25:25,204 --> 00:25:27,195
We said no, just don't say anything
253
00:25:27,573 --> 00:25:33,534
But I was too scared to walk away.
I was thinking it was the end
254
00:25:34,046 --> 00:25:38,847
I was dead nervous, so I said yes to
Dick Lester that I'd make a movie
255
00:25:38,984 --> 00:25:43,512
I went to Spain for six weeks
because I didn't know what to do
256
00:25:43,689 --> 00:25:46,089
What do you do when you don't tour?
There's no life
257
00:25:46,558 --> 00:25:50,892
Our officer calls me up and says
"Musketeer Gripweed"
258
00:25:50,996 --> 00:25:54,625
He was a tall chap,
some would call him weedy. I did
259
00:25:54,766 --> 00:25:58,463
Remember, we were some few
hundred miles behind enemy lines
260
00:25:58,604 --> 00:26:01,072
He said "Green, green, green."
So I did
261
00:26:02,007 --> 00:26:04,999
Some bastard's been prior,
has he, Jock?
262
00:26:05,143 --> 00:26:07,304
One bastard down the road
stinks to high heaven
263
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,280
Are you a duration bloke?
- You wouldn't chuck her, would you?
264
00:26:10,616 --> 00:26:14,074
Well, pack it in then. I'm a regular.
It's my sodding career, liberating, all right?
265
00:26:36,508 --> 00:26:39,204
Ringo came to Spain, right
266
00:26:39,311 --> 00:26:42,508
to Almeria when John and I
were down there
267
00:26:43,115 --> 00:26:46,107
Yeah, I went and hung out
because he was lonely
268
00:26:46,251 --> 00:26:49,311
We really supported each other a lot
269
00:26:49,454 --> 00:26:53,413
He was out there being this actor
270
00:26:53,792 --> 00:26:59,389
John was doing How I Won the War
so I went to India for six weeks
271
00:26:59,531 --> 00:27:02,364
It was a fantastic time
272
00:27:02,467 --> 00:27:06,767
I would go out and look
at temples and go shopping
273
00:27:06,872 --> 00:27:10,865
I travelled all over,
went to various places
274
00:27:11,376 --> 00:27:14,607
and eventually went up to Kashmir
275
00:27:14,713 --> 00:27:19,650
I stayed on a houseboat
in the middle of the Himalayas
276
00:27:19,751 --> 00:27:23,551
It was incredible.
I'd wake up in the morning
277
00:27:24,523 --> 00:27:30,325
A little Kashmiri fellow
would bring us tea and biscuits
278
00:27:30,429 --> 00:27:34,422
I could hear Ravi in the next room
doing his practice
279
00:27:34,566 --> 00:27:37,967
That was incredible times for me
280
00:27:38,437 --> 00:27:43,807
George was doing the Indian stuff.
I don't know what Paul was doing
281
00:27:56,955 --> 00:28:02,325
To me, if you are blessed
with the ability to write music...
282
00:28:02,494 --> 00:28:08,558
film scores are kind of
an interesting diversion
283
00:28:08,667 --> 00:28:14,367
George Martin, being able to write
and to orchestrate
284
00:28:15,207 --> 00:28:18,540
got an offer through
the Boulting Brothers
285
00:28:18,677 --> 00:28:21,737
for him and me to do some film music
for The Fami!y Way
286
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,111
I looked at the film and thought
it was a great film. I still do
287
00:28:25,250 --> 00:28:29,880
A very powerful, emotional,
soppy but good film for its time
288
00:28:30,255 --> 00:28:34,385
We even got an lvor Novello award
for the best film song that year
289
00:28:34,526 --> 00:28:37,324
for Love in the Open Air
290
00:29:14,332 --> 00:29:16,527
Can I have a word?
291
00:29:17,135 --> 00:29:20,400
Are the Beatles going to go
their own ways in 1967?
292
00:29:20,505 --> 00:29:25,499
On our own or together,
we're always involved with each other
293
00:29:25,644 --> 00:29:29,603
Could you ever see a time when
you weren't working together?
294
00:29:29,714 --> 00:29:34,310
I can see us working not together for
a period, but we'd always get together
295
00:29:34,453 --> 00:29:40,414
You need other people for ideas
and we all get along fine
296
00:29:40,625 --> 00:29:43,958
Will you be doing films
on your own next year?
297
00:29:44,096 --> 00:29:48,590
No, I don't want to make a career of it.
I just felt like doing it
298
00:29:48,733 --> 00:29:52,066
Dick Lester asked me and I said yes
299
00:29:52,204 --> 00:29:56,868
I wouldn't have done it if the others
hadn't liked it, but they were on holiday
300
00:29:57,008 --> 00:30:00,466
Do you foresee a time when the
Beatles won't be together?
301
00:30:00,612 --> 00:30:02,102
No, no
302
00:30:02,247 --> 00:30:04,044
Have you got tired of each other?
303
00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:05,639
No
304
00:30:06,551 --> 00:30:09,952
Have you got anything lined up on
your own, film parts for example?
305
00:30:10,088 --> 00:30:14,081
There may be one if we don't do
one together early next year
306
00:30:14,192 --> 00:30:18,185
I'm sort of out of it -
John and Paul can still write
307
00:30:18,330 --> 00:30:21,595
even though we're not
working together
308
00:30:21,733 --> 00:30:26,261
And George can learn his sitar.
I've just been sitting around
309
00:30:26,404 --> 00:30:29,066
Getting bored?
- No, getting fat!
310
00:30:29,474 --> 00:30:33,035
Do you think that in the New Year
you will be going your own ways?
311
00:30:33,145 --> 00:30:36,637
No, no definitely not
312
00:30:37,549 --> 00:30:41,349
Can I have a brief word? If you never
toured again, would it worry you?
313
00:30:41,753 --> 00:30:44,745
I don't know. No, I don't think so
314
00:30:45,123 --> 00:30:50,720
But the only thing about that is,
performance for us...
315
00:30:50,829 --> 00:30:55,857
It's gone downhill because we can't
develop when no one can hear us
316
00:30:56,001 --> 00:31:00,233
so for us to perform,
it gets more difficult each time
317
00:31:00,372 --> 00:31:03,307
Do you mean they don't listen to you
so you don't want to do that?
318
00:31:03,441 --> 00:31:06,672
We want to do it,
but if we're not listened to
319
00:31:06,811 --> 00:31:10,679
and we can't even hear ourselves,
we can't get any better
320
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:17,745
But in the studio we could do StrawberryFie! Ds, Penny Lane and then Pepper
321
00:31:17,923 --> 00:31:20,118
Were they the first ones out?
322
00:31:20,292 --> 00:31:24,729
That was what happened
once we got full-time into the studio
323
00:31:24,829 --> 00:31:29,562
And saying at the time
"Now our performance is that record"
324
00:31:30,168 --> 00:31:34,298
That new record started
with Strawberry Fie! Ds
325
00:31:34,439 --> 00:31:39,672
That was going to be what became Pepper.
But no one had heard of Pepperyet
326
00:31:39,811 --> 00:31:42,939
But it was going to be a record
made in the studio
327
00:31:43,081 --> 00:31:48,348
with songs they had written
which couldn't be performed live
328
00:31:48,486 --> 00:31:54,356
They were designed to be studio
productions and that was the difference
329
00:31:54,826 --> 00:31:57,818
Strawberry Fie! Ds is John's song
330
00:31:57,963 --> 00:32:02,366
He used to live next door to Strawberry
Fields, a Salvation Army place for kids
331
00:32:02,467 --> 00:32:06,301
He used to bunk over and it was his
little magic garden to play in
332
00:32:06,438 --> 00:32:12,604
When I visited him, he'd tell me
about Strawberry Fields
333
00:32:12,911 --> 00:32:17,143
Strawberry Fields I wrote when I was
making How I Won the Warin Spain
334
00:32:17,282 --> 00:32:21,116
It's a Salvation Army home
335
00:32:21,253 --> 00:32:24,711
near the house I lived in
with my aunty in the suburbs
336
00:32:24,856 --> 00:32:28,314
Although I took the name
as an image
337
00:32:29,227 --> 00:32:34,130
We had this thing called the mellotron
for the intro of Strawberry Fie! Ds
338
00:32:34,232 --> 00:32:39,966
This is one. We had flutes,
and this was the intro
339
00:35:57,669 --> 00:36:02,834
Then the nice thing is that our stuff
started to get a bit more surreal
340
00:36:03,241 --> 00:36:07,109
Penny Lane was a bit surreal too,
although a sort of cleaner thing
341
00:36:07,245 --> 00:36:12,080
I remember saying to George Martin,
a very clean recording
342
00:36:12,183 --> 00:36:17,450
I was into clean sounds. Mainly
Beach Boy kind of things at that point
343
00:36:17,555 --> 00:36:21,889
But the Fireman with his
hour-glass and all that
344
00:36:21,993 --> 00:36:27,761
was us trying to get into a bit of art,
of surrealism, all based on real things
345
00:36:27,866 --> 00:36:32,826
There was a barber called Bioletti
346
00:36:33,304 --> 00:36:36,865
I think he's still there, actually,
in Penny Lane
347
00:36:37,008 --> 00:36:43,038
He had the pictures all barbers have
of the haircut you can have
348
00:36:43,147 --> 00:36:48,744
only instead of saying "The barber
with pictures of haircuts in his windows"
349
00:36:48,887 --> 00:36:52,084
you'd change it round to...
350
00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:54,215
Every head he's hadthe p!easure to know
351
00:36:54,359 --> 00:36:57,522
A barber showing photographs
like it's an exhibition
352
00:36:57,629 --> 00:37:00,359
It was like twisting it
to a slightly more artsy angle
353
00:37:01,165 --> 00:37:03,998
Penny Lane is not only a street,
it's a district
354
00:37:04,135 --> 00:37:07,036
I lived in Penny Lane in a street
called Newcastle Road
355
00:37:07,171 --> 00:37:11,039
so I was the only actual person
that lived in Penny Lane
356
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,449
Right now, we're going to say hello
to John Lennon and Paul McCartney
357
00:40:06,551 --> 00:40:12,148
Penny Lane having failed to make No. 1
in Britain, were you at all put out?
358
00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:18,229
No, the main thing is it's fine
to be kept from being number one
359
00:40:18,362 --> 00:40:22,196
by a record like Re!ease Me
360
00:40:22,333 --> 00:40:26,269
because they're not both trying
to do the same kind of thing
361
00:40:26,404 --> 00:40:30,636
So that's a completely different
scene altogether
362
00:40:32,877 --> 00:40:36,870
But you have in the past
been reported as saying
363
00:40:37,014 --> 00:40:41,542
that if a record didn't go to No. 1
you'd think of packing it all in
364
00:40:41,786 --> 00:40:44,653
It was a relief
365
00:40:44,756 --> 00:40:49,090
Everything we did went straight to
No. 1, so there was that pressure
366
00:40:49,193 --> 00:40:54,631
I believe we had six
or seven in a row
367
00:40:55,032 --> 00:40:58,058
It was out, in, out, you know
368
00:40:58,202 --> 00:41:02,468
So within the group
it took the pressure off
369
00:41:02,707 --> 00:41:09,203
You obviously don't have to write any
more songs except you like doing it
370
00:41:09,313 --> 00:41:12,476
But it's always been like that -
that's the good thing
371
00:41:12,583 --> 00:41:16,349
It has been a hobby and it still is
372
00:41:16,487 --> 00:41:21,117
Can you tell us anything about the
numbers you're now engaged on?
373
00:41:22,326 --> 00:41:28,231
Paul had been on a train
or plane journey with Mal Evans
374
00:41:28,366 --> 00:41:33,360
He came up with the idea of
Sgt Pepperand he was kind of...
375
00:41:33,471 --> 00:41:37,032
To me, we were in the studio
to make the next record
376
00:41:37,175 --> 00:41:42,545
and he was going on about
this idea of some fictitious band
377
00:41:42,814 --> 00:41:46,147
Sgt Pepper is Paul
after a trip to America
378
00:41:46,284 --> 00:41:50,778
The whole West Coast long-named
group thing was coming in
379
00:41:50,922 --> 00:41:55,086
People are no longer the Beatles
or the Crickets, but suddenly
380
00:41:55,193 --> 00:41:59,823
'Fred and his Incredible Sheep
Shrinking Grateful Aeroplanes'
381
00:42:00,231 --> 00:42:05,828
There were many such bands:
Laughing Joe and his Medicine Band
382
00:42:05,970 --> 00:42:09,770
Thank you wam bam mam
kind of group names, you know
383
00:42:09,874 --> 00:42:13,537
Colonel Tucker's Medicinal Brew
and Compound
384
00:42:13,678 --> 00:42:17,273
So I thought, if there was a band,
what would be a mad name for it?
385
00:42:22,687 --> 00:42:27,386
It was basically Paul's idea
386
00:42:27,525 --> 00:42:31,484
He had this song, Sgt Pepper'sLone!y Hearts C! Ub Band
387
00:42:31,596 --> 00:42:37,057
He was identifying it
with the Beatles themselves
388
00:42:37,201 --> 00:42:41,262
I think we recorded the song first
389
00:42:41,405 --> 00:42:46,206
and then the idea came
to make it into an album
390
00:42:46,310 --> 00:42:52,215
It was also triggered by Neil Aspinall,
who said at that time:
391
00:42:52,717 --> 00:42:55,652
Why don't we have Sgt Pepper
as the compere?
392
00:42:55,753 --> 00:43:00,281
At the beginning of the show,
he introduces the band
393
00:43:00,391 --> 00:43:05,488
At the end of every Beatles show,
Paul always used to say:
394
00:43:05,596 --> 00:43:10,932
"It's time to go, we've got to go to bed
and this is our last number"
395
00:43:11,035 --> 00:43:13,799
Do the last number and go
396
00:43:13,905 --> 00:43:18,433
I suggested Sgt Pepper should
come on at the end of the album:
397
00:43:18,576 --> 00:43:23,707
"Well, that's it, we've got to go.
Here's our last number"
398
00:43:23,848 --> 00:43:28,114
and send the album on tour
instead of the band
399
00:43:28,252 --> 00:43:30,652
We liked that idea
400
00:43:31,188 --> 00:43:34,680
We'd read a report somewhere
that said:
401
00:43:34,792 --> 00:43:39,593
Elvis Presley has sent his
gold-plated Cadillac out on tour
402
00:43:39,730 --> 00:43:45,032
We thought that was a great idea -
because we'd been sending ourselves out
403
00:43:45,169 --> 00:43:49,435
We thought that's a really good idea.
You stay at home and send your car
404
00:43:49,573 --> 00:43:54,636
It did go on tour and people
had come and they'd pay money
405
00:43:54,745 --> 00:43:59,773
They wandered around it as if it was an
exhibit and he didn't have to be there
406
00:43:59,917 --> 00:44:04,911
Then, in the 60s when we thought of
doing Sgt Pepper, we didn't want to tour
407
00:44:05,056 --> 00:44:08,355
The idea suddenly sounded
very nifty, you know
408
00:44:08,492 --> 00:44:12,792
We said we haven't gold-plated
Cadillacs, we don't do that stuff
409
00:44:12,930 --> 00:44:15,558
but we could send
a record out on tour
410
00:44:16,133 --> 00:44:20,263
It was Sgt Pepper and his Lonely HeartsC! Ub Band and all these other acts
411
00:44:20,404 --> 00:44:25,171
It was going to run like a rock opera
412
00:44:25,276 --> 00:44:30,942
and we got as far as Sgt Pepper
and Bi!!y Shears
413
00:44:31,082 --> 00:44:36,349
A Little Help From My Friends, then
everyone said sod it, let's just do tracks
414
00:44:36,487 --> 00:44:41,390
So from the start it was going to be
something totally different
415
00:44:41,525 --> 00:44:44,926
but it still kept the title
416
00:44:45,029 --> 00:44:49,363
and the feel that it's all connected
417
00:44:49,967 --> 00:44:52,765
It's called the first concept album,
it doesn't go anywhere
418
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:55,464
Mr Kite - all my contributions -
419
00:44:55,606 --> 00:44:59,474
had nothing to do with this idea
of Sgt Pepper and his band
420
00:44:59,610 --> 00:45:02,602
But it works because we said it worked
and that's how it appeared
421
00:46:18,522 --> 00:46:23,619
Apart from Sgt Pepper, Billy Shears,
and the so-called Reprise... that's it
422
00:46:23,761 --> 00:46:26,559
Every other song could have been
on any other album
423
00:46:26,664 --> 00:46:29,599
A Day in the Life, Mr Kite -
they could have gone anywhere
424
00:47:29,093 --> 00:47:32,290
We were spending a long time
in the studio
425
00:47:32,396 --> 00:47:35,991
and still doing the same basic tracks
426
00:47:36,767 --> 00:47:40,396
and then it would take weeks
for the overdubs
427
00:47:40,504 --> 00:47:46,204
The great thing about this band was
whoever had the idea, that was OK
428
00:47:46,310 --> 00:47:50,940
Whoever had the best idea,
that's the one we'd use
429
00:47:52,783 --> 00:47:58,744
For instance, in A Day in the Life,
John had this opening verse
430
00:47:59,056 --> 00:48:03,322
I think he'd got the idea from
the Dai!y Mirroror something
431
00:48:03,527 --> 00:48:08,362
It had two stories - the Guinness child
had killed himself in a car
432
00:48:08,766 --> 00:48:10,825
That was the main headline story
433
00:48:10,968 --> 00:48:14,426
The next page was about 4000 holes
in Blackburn, Lancashire
434
00:48:14,672 --> 00:48:19,837
So Blackburn, Lancashire...
the holes... Albert Hall
435
00:48:19,944 --> 00:48:24,438
all got mixed, just a little
poetic jumble that sounded nice
436
00:48:24,682 --> 00:48:29,779
The momentous song, A Day in the Life
began in a very simple way
437
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,721
And we've got the rehearsal take,
take one, very first time we'd heard it
438
00:48:34,959 --> 00:48:40,864
with John giving instructions
as usual just before he starts it
439
00:48:42,132 --> 00:48:46,626
Have the mike on the piano,quite!ow to keep with my maracas
440
00:48:46,837 --> 00:48:51,672
John was singing and playing his
acoustic guitar, Paul was on piano
441
00:48:51,809 --> 00:48:56,337
George was playing maracas, I think,
and certainly Ringo was on bongos
442
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,881
John counts in by saying
"Sugar Plum Fairy"
443
00:49:04,121 --> 00:49:07,181
Sugar P! Um Fairy, Sugar P! Um Fairy
444
00:49:28,612 --> 00:49:30,603
Even in this early take
445
00:49:30,714 --> 00:49:35,742
he has a voice which sends shivers
down the spine
446
00:49:50,134 --> 00:49:52,830
That was mainly a John song
447
00:49:52,970 --> 00:49:56,906
I read the news today, oh boy...
He'd taken a lot of it from a newspaper
448
00:49:57,041 --> 00:50:00,499
Then I had another bit...
449
00:50:00,644 --> 00:50:03,340
Woke up, fell out of bed,dragged a comb across my head
450
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,472
That was a little bit I had,
it wasn't doing anything
451
00:50:06,583 --> 00:50:12,715
and we got the concept of building it
like a mini-operetta
452
00:50:27,171 --> 00:50:31,039
John said let's shove it in the middle
and see if we can't connect them
453
00:50:31,775 --> 00:50:37,213
We connected them with a series of
empty bars either side of Paul's section
454
00:50:37,314 --> 00:50:41,114
before we came back
into John's as a reprise
455
00:50:41,251 --> 00:50:47,315
and we knew we had to fill those bars
with something sensational
456
00:50:47,925 --> 00:50:52,123
To keep the 24 bars so everybody
knew when to come back in
457
00:50:52,229 --> 00:50:56,222
dear old Mal Evans stood by the piano
counting the bars
458
00:51:00,771 --> 00:51:06,676
Also, he set off an alarm clock at the end
to trigger everybody back into it
459
00:51:14,485 --> 00:51:18,319
They wanted an orchestral climax
to fill these empty bars
460
00:51:18,455 --> 00:51:23,415
A giant orgasm of sound rising from
nothing at all to a most incredible noise
461
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,790
And this is what we came up with
462
00:51:50,788 --> 00:51:53,689
With that we joined up
the two parts of the song
463
00:51:54,224 --> 00:51:58,354
The moment I remember best
outside of him bringing the song...
464
00:51:58,495 --> 00:52:00,861
It was obviously a gorgeous song
when he brought it
465
00:52:00,998 --> 00:52:03,796
I was a big fan of John's,
you've got to remember that
466
00:52:03,934 --> 00:52:07,392
It wouldn't just be: Oh yes,
professional person will write this
467
00:52:07,504 --> 00:52:10,701
It would be: I can't wait
to get my hands on this
468
00:52:10,841 --> 00:52:15,107
We'd learned the chords off him
and we'd develop it
469
00:52:15,245 --> 00:52:18,703
But the moment I remember...
470
00:52:19,082 --> 00:52:23,246
We got to a little bit
that he didn't have where we said:
471
00:52:23,353 --> 00:52:27,790
I'd!ove to turn you on
472
00:52:27,925 --> 00:52:31,725
We looked at each other and thought,
we know what we're doing here, don't we?
473
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:36,596
We're actually saying, for the first
time ever, words like 'turn you on'
474
00:52:36,733 --> 00:52:41,397
which was in the culture anyway but
no one had actually said it on record
475
00:52:41,505 --> 00:52:45,305
There was a look of recognition
between us
476
00:52:45,442 --> 00:52:47,433
Do it, do it, get it down!
477
00:57:15,912 --> 00:57:19,109
So the sleeve came
and we wanted to dress up
478
00:57:19,249 --> 00:57:23,583
To be those people, the Peppers
479
00:57:24,488 --> 00:57:30,427
We had to get suits and it was
flower-power coming into its fullest
480
00:57:30,794 --> 00:57:33,354
That's what it was
481
00:57:33,764 --> 00:57:38,667
Mal and I went to all the different
libraries and got prints
482
00:57:38,802 --> 00:57:44,001
Peter Blake blew them up
and tinted them and made the colour
483
00:58:00,824 --> 00:58:03,987
I remember the weekend
it was released
484
00:58:04,127 --> 00:58:09,030
getting a telegram from people like
James Fox: "Long live Sgt Pepper"
485
00:58:09,166 --> 00:58:12,260
People had come round and said
"Great album, man"
486
00:58:12,402 --> 00:58:17,499
So it got very noticed - as if
"You're making it for us," our crowd
487
00:58:17,974 --> 00:58:21,137
I think it did represent what
the young people were on about
488
00:58:21,278 --> 00:58:26,739
It seemed to coincide with a revolution
in young people's thinking
489
00:58:26,883 --> 00:58:31,149
It was, I suppose,
the epitome of the swinging '60s
490
00:58:31,288 --> 00:58:35,725
It linked up with Mary Quant
and mini skirts and that kind of thing
491
00:58:35,826 --> 00:58:38,294
And dope to a certain extent
492
00:58:38,395 --> 00:58:44,231
The freedom of sex,
and of soft drugs like marijuana
493
00:58:44,968 --> 00:58:48,495
It was all a bit exciting
and I thihk it did reflect this time
494
00:58:48,772 --> 00:58:52,071
I thought it was great
495
00:58:52,375 --> 00:58:55,401
I thought it was a huge advance
496
00:58:55,512 --> 00:59:01,314
I was very pleased
as the music papers had been saying:
497
00:59:01,451 --> 00:59:04,318
"What are the Beatles up to?
Drying up, I suppose?"
498
00:59:04,454 --> 00:59:10,415
It was nice making an album lke Pepper,
thinking, yeah, drying up, that's right
499
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,619
So it was lovely to have that on them
500
00:59:12,762 --> 00:59:16,789
When it came out, I loved it
501
00:59:16,933 --> 00:59:21,836
I had a party to celebrate. That weekend
was a bit of a party as I recall
502
00:59:21,972 --> 00:59:25,703
I remember getting lots of
telegrams from people
503
00:59:25,842 --> 00:59:30,643
The biggest single tribute was that
it was released on the Friday
504
00:59:30,747 --> 00:59:33,443
On Sunday we went
to the Saville Theatre
505
00:59:33,550 --> 00:59:36,542
which Brian Epstein rented
and ran some rock shows
506
00:59:36,686 --> 00:59:39,348
because nothing ever happened
on a Sunday
507
00:59:39,489 --> 00:59:45,018
Jimi Hendrix opened with Sgt Pepper
and he'd had since Friday to learn it
508
01:00:03,146 --> 01:00:07,674
Sgt Pepper for me - it was great -
it's a fine album
509
01:00:07,784 --> 01:00:10,685
but I did learn to play chess on it
510
01:00:10,787 --> 01:00:13,984
Because I'd have so much
spare time, you know
511
01:00:14,124 --> 01:00:18,322
We'd do the basic track and then
we'd put other stuff on, then...
512
01:00:18,428 --> 01:00:22,228
but the percussion would be
overdubbed later and later
513
01:00:22,632 --> 01:00:28,400
For me it was a bit tiring,
a bit boring
514
01:00:28,505 --> 01:00:34,068
A few moments I enjoyed but generally
I didn't like that album much
515
01:00:34,210 --> 01:00:37,407
My heart was still in India
516
01:00:37,514 --> 01:00:43,180
That was the big thing for me
when that happened in '66
517
01:00:43,753 --> 01:00:49,282
After that, everything else
seemed like hard work
518
01:00:49,392 --> 01:00:53,226
It was a job. It was doing something
I didn't really want to do
519
01:00:53,363 --> 01:00:57,823
I was losing interest in being fab
at that point
520
01:00:58,234 --> 01:01:01,761
It wasn't that spectacular
when you look back on it
521
01:01:01,871 --> 01:01:06,934
People just had this dream about Pepper.
It was good for then, you know
522
01:01:07,744 --> 01:01:13,478
I was very cross that the BBC
decided to ban some of the tracks
523
01:01:13,583 --> 01:01:18,111
They wouldn't play A Day in the Life.
Why? I don't know
524
01:01:18,254 --> 01:01:23,988
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds was
banned for a rumoured drug connection
525
01:01:24,127 --> 01:01:28,120
and Lucy in the Sky actually stood
for LSD, which wasn't true
526
01:01:28,231 --> 01:01:34,227
and that it was an album promoting
the use of drugs among the young
527
01:01:38,808 --> 01:01:44,269
I was aware of them smoking pot but
not that they did anything very serious
528
01:01:45,115 --> 01:01:49,552
In fact I was so innocent that I
actually took John up to the roof
529
01:01:49,686 --> 01:01:53,782
when he was having an LSD trip
and not knowing what it was
530
01:01:54,124 --> 01:01:58,993
I never took it in the studio. Once I
did by accident, thinking it was uppers
531
01:01:59,329 --> 01:02:03,595
I was not in a state of handling it
but I took it
532
01:02:03,733 --> 01:02:07,464
and I was just so scared on the mike
533
01:02:07,604 --> 01:02:11,665
I said "What was it? I feel ill"
534
01:02:12,709 --> 01:02:16,873
I thought I was going to crack
and I said I must get some air
535
01:02:17,013 --> 01:02:20,779
They took me up on the roof and
George Martin was looking at me funny
536
01:02:21,351 --> 01:02:24,149
Then it dawned on me
I must have taken acid
537
01:02:24,454 --> 01:02:27,423
The only place I could take him
for fresh air was the roof
538
01:02:28,024 --> 01:02:30,959
We went up and it was
a wonderful starry night
539
01:02:31,094 --> 01:02:35,463
He looked up and went to
the edge of the parapet
540
01:02:35,665 --> 01:02:40,159
He looked up at the stars and said
"Aren't they fantastic?"
541
01:02:40,270 --> 01:02:44,263
To him, they would have been
especially fantastic
542
01:02:45,475 --> 01:02:47,807
They just looked like stars to me
543
01:02:48,044 --> 01:02:51,536
Paul, how often have you taken LSD?
544
01:02:52,515 --> 01:02:53,982
About four times
545
01:02:55,051 --> 01:02:57,952
The newscaster said
"Is it true you've had drugs?"
546
01:02:58,088 --> 01:03:00,386
I made a lightning decision,
thinking:
547
01:03:00,523 --> 01:03:05,517
I'm either going to try and bluff this...
They're at my door... No, go away!
548
01:03:05,628 --> 01:03:10,531
Or I'm just going to tell him
and I thought, sod it...
549
01:03:10,633 --> 01:03:13,659
I told him, you know
what's going to happen
550
01:03:13,803 --> 01:03:17,170
I'm going to be blamed for
telling everyone I take drugs
551
01:03:17,273 --> 01:03:21,642
But you are the people
who'll distribute this thing
552
01:03:21,744 --> 01:03:27,341
I'll tell you but, if you are worried
about it affecting kids, don't show it
553
01:03:27,951 --> 01:03:31,478
Do you think you've encouraged
your fans to take drugs?
554
01:03:31,588 --> 01:03:37,151
No, I don't think my fans
will take drugs just because I did
555
01:03:37,293 --> 01:03:42,424
That's not the point.
I was asked whether I had or not
556
01:03:42,565 --> 01:03:47,161
then the whole bit about how far it's
going, how many it will encourage
557
01:03:47,270 --> 01:03:51,900
It is up to the newspapers
and up to you on television
558
01:03:52,041 --> 01:03:54,805
You're spreading this
559
01:03:54,911 --> 01:04:00,372
It's going into all the homes in Britain
and I'd rather it didn't
560
01:04:00,517 --> 01:04:03,953
But you're asking me the question.
You want me to be honest
561
01:04:04,454 --> 01:04:10,359
It seemed strange - we'd been trying
to get him to take it for 18 months
562
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:15,857
It seemed funny that one day
he's on television talking about it
563
01:04:17,133 --> 01:04:22,765
It gave the press a field day,
to be on all our cases
564
01:04:23,873 --> 01:04:27,434
I didn't think it was their business
565
01:04:27,544 --> 01:04:30,342
but once he said it...
566
01:04:31,147 --> 01:04:34,981
Whoever said anything in the Beatles,
the other three had to deal with it
567
01:04:35,118 --> 01:04:39,521
Which we did with all love
because we loved each other
568
01:04:39,856 --> 01:04:42,347
But I could have done
without it myself
569
01:04:42,759 --> 01:04:47,753
The point about the whole drug scene
was that the press asked Paul:
570
01:04:48,731 --> 01:04:53,225
"Have you taken LSD?"
Otherwise we didn't say a word about it
571
01:04:53,369 --> 01:04:56,361
It was just a personal thing
572
01:04:56,606 --> 01:05:02,602
I feel to this day that
we did take certain substances
573
01:05:04,013 --> 01:05:08,746
but never to a great extent
at the sessions
574
01:05:09,285 --> 01:05:12,846
We took a little...
575
01:05:13,456 --> 01:05:16,983
but whenever we overdid our intake
576
01:05:17,794 --> 01:05:20,763
the music we made
was absolutely shit
577
01:05:20,863 --> 01:05:24,355
And we'd go home real happy
with the tape
578
01:05:24,667 --> 01:05:29,104
We'd play it when we got home
and play it the next day
579
01:05:29,239 --> 01:05:33,005
Every time, we'd come back
to record again
580
01:05:33,309 --> 01:05:36,836
we'd all say
"We have to do that again"
581
01:05:36,946 --> 01:05:39,540
Because it didn't work
582
01:05:39,682 --> 01:05:44,346
It didn't work for the Beatles to be
too deranged when making music
583
01:06:08,311 --> 01:06:12,509
Somebody said we should invest some
money so we thought let's buy an island
584
01:06:12,649 --> 01:06:14,981
We'll just go there and drop out
585
01:06:15,118 --> 01:06:17,848
We rented a boat
586
01:06:19,289 --> 01:06:25,228
and went up and down the coast
from Athens, looking at islands
587
01:06:25,361 --> 01:06:29,354
We came to one we'd arranged to see
588
01:07:54,317 --> 01:07:58,913
It came to nothing. We didn't buy
an island, we came home
589
01:10:01,511 --> 01:10:04,105
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