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A man's got to do what he's got to do 8 00:03:51,478 --> 00:03:55,710 Let's go back, back, back, back, back... 9 00:04:13,567 --> 00:04:17,697 My mother used to say because I was born the Second World War started 10 00:04:18,071 --> 00:04:23,668 Richard Starkey Born Liverpool 7th July 1940 11 00:04:23,910 --> 00:04:27,004 I was with mother until about four, then my father split 12 00:04:27,247 --> 00:04:32,241 He was a merchant seaman. It was 1940 and the war and all that 13 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:41,151 John Winston Lennon Born Liverpool 9th October 1940 14 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:46,263 My mum was a Catholic, dad was a Protestant 15 00:04:46,533 --> 00:04:52,494 They got married quite late. I think they had me when they were 40 16 00:04:54,808 --> 00:05:02,647 James Paul McCartney Born Liverpool 18th June 1942 17 00:05:03,650 --> 00:05:06,778 At the time I was born my father's job was driving a bus 18 00:05:07,053 --> 00:05:11,080 I lived in a two-up and two-down, 12 Arnold Grove 19 00:05:11,691 --> 00:05:18,927 George Harrison Born Liverpool 25th February 1943 20 00:05:35,715 --> 00:05:37,706 My mum was a nurse 21 00:05:37,951 --> 00:05:40,681 She was a midwife as well 22 00:05:41,354 --> 00:05:43,879 My dad was a cotton salesman 23 00:05:44,991 --> 00:05:48,518 My father and my mother split when I was about four 24 00:05:48,762 --> 00:05:52,755 I was with mother up to then, then I was brought up by an aunty 25 00:05:53,767 --> 00:05:57,635 Dad was a... he made cakes 26 00:05:57,871 --> 00:06:00,840 so we always had sugar through the war 27 00:06:01,074 --> 00:06:04,441 She ended up doing a lot of jobs as he left when I was three 28 00:06:04,678 --> 00:06:06,805 He decided that was enough of that 29 00:06:07,047 --> 00:06:12,178 She did any job she could get to feed and clothe me 30 00:06:13,286 --> 00:06:18,280 My mother was from an Irish family called French 31 00:06:19,325 --> 00:06:22,783 She had lots of brothers and sisters 32 00:06:23,530 --> 00:06:27,728 My grandmother lived in Albert Grove, which was next to Arnold Grove 33 00:06:28,635 --> 00:06:34,096 I was terrible at school. I wasn't there much as I was often sick 34 00:06:34,474 --> 00:06:39,935 I had peritonitis when I was six and a half - a burst appendix 35 00:06:40,513 --> 00:06:44,313 They told my mother that I'd be dead three times - but I'm still here 36 00:06:44,951 --> 00:06:51,083 My dad was an amateur musician who played piano 37 00:06:51,591 --> 00:06:57,791 I've memories of lying on the floor, hearing him play 38 00:06:59,466 --> 00:07:05,803 When my parents were younger they listened on an old crystal radio 39 00:07:07,107 --> 00:07:09,507 John really loved his mother. I loved her too 40 00:07:09,776 --> 00:07:13,542 She played the ukelele. To this day... 41 00:07:13,813 --> 00:07:17,579 if I meet grown-ups who play ukeleles, I love them 42 00:07:17,984 --> 00:07:20,680 Everybody has their party piece in Liverpool 43 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:26,916 My mother's was Little Drummer Boy. She sang it to me 44 00:07:27,427 --> 00:07:32,057 I'd sing Nobody's Child to her and she'd always cry 45 00:07:38,905 --> 00:07:42,773 Rock'n'roll meant it was real, everything else was unreal 46 00:07:43,009 --> 00:07:48,811 It was the only thing to get through to me, at 15, of all the things happening 47 00:08:10,537 --> 00:08:15,998 You can't imagine a time when rock'n'roll was only one of the musics 48 00:08:21,414 --> 00:08:24,144 Whatever record was being played, you'd try and listen to it 49 00:08:24,384 --> 00:08:27,842 You couldn't even get a cup of sugar, let alone a rock'n'roll record 50 00:08:32,091 --> 00:08:34,286 There was no such thing as an English record 51 00:08:34,527 --> 00:08:39,328 The first English record that was anything was Move It by Cliff Richard 52 00:08:39,566 --> 00:08:41,557 Before that there'd been nothing 53 00:08:45,805 --> 00:08:50,572 You'd listen to whatever was on the radio in those days 54 00:08:57,250 --> 00:09:01,846 I listened to a lot of country and western - skiffle was coming through 55 00:09:32,252 --> 00:09:37,053 There were lots of people coming up and one of them was Buddy Holly 56 00:09:37,457 --> 00:09:40,824 We loved his vocal sound and we loved his guitar playing 57 00:09:41,094 --> 00:09:45,656 But most of all was the fact that he actually wrote the stuff himself 58 00:09:45,932 --> 00:09:47,923 That's what turned us on 59 00:09:48,401 --> 00:09:52,462 I was at art school for five years 60 00:09:52,705 --> 00:09:58,075 They'd only allow jazz to be played - no rock'n'roll in those days 61 00:09:58,311 --> 00:10:02,645 We conned them into letting us play rock'n'roll by calling it blues 62 00:10:03,249 --> 00:10:06,241 As I became a teenager 63 00:10:06,486 --> 00:10:11,890 I was 12 or 13 when I first heard Fats Domino, I'm in Love Again 64 00:10:12,125 --> 00:10:16,585 That was the first what I would call rock'n'roll record I ever heard 65 00:10:17,163 --> 00:10:19,825 Even Bill Haley was around then 66 00:10:20,433 --> 00:10:24,164 I remember being in school when I was a kid 67 00:10:24,404 --> 00:10:29,273 Somebody had a picture in one of the musical papers... of Elvis 68 00:10:29,509 --> 00:10:32,307 It was an advert for Heartbreak Hote! 69 00:10:33,646 --> 00:10:38,948 I just looked at it and thought, he's just so good looking, just perfect 70 00:10:39,319 --> 00:10:42,288 When I was 16, Elvis was what was happening 71 00:10:42,522 --> 00:10:47,789 A guy with long greasy hair wiggling his ass and singing Hound Dog 72 00:10:48,027 --> 00:10:52,054 That's Alright Mama and those early Sun Records - his great period 73 00:10:52,465 --> 00:10:56,561 That's him - the guru we've been waiting for - the messiah has arrived 74 00:11:23,029 --> 00:11:27,125 One of our favourite records was Searchin'by the Coasters 75 00:11:49,122 --> 00:11:53,354 We heard people like Big Bill Broonzy. I think he did a tour of England 76 00:12:21,487 --> 00:12:24,422 I was a big fan of his and Frankie Laine 77 00:12:39,038 --> 00:12:43,873 All those train songs, Rock Island Line and all that stuff 78 00:12:45,745 --> 00:12:49,841 Lonnie Donegan 79 00:13:03,296 --> 00:13:06,265 Suddenly here was a rock'n'roll hero who had glasses 80 00:13:07,767 --> 00:13:12,261 Buddy Holly and The Crickets 81 00:13:24,750 --> 00:13:31,349 The first music I can remember hearing as guitar-oriented music 82 00:13:31,591 --> 00:13:34,424 was Jimmie Rodgers, "The Singing Brakeman" 83 00:13:56,215 --> 00:14:00,675 I had no idea about doing music as a way of life... 84 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,720 until rock'n'roll hit me and that changed my whole life 85 00:14:04,957 --> 00:14:11,419 Drums were the only thing I wanted. I never looked at guitars or anything 86 00:14:11,998 --> 00:14:15,832 My dad used to be a trumpet player and for my birthday 87 00:14:16,068 --> 00:14:22,234 he bought me a trumpet from Rushworth and Drapers' music store in Liverpool 88 00:14:22,808 --> 00:14:27,040 At 16 I re-established a relationship with my mother for about 4 years 89 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,683 She taught me music, first the banjo, then I progressed to guitar 90 00:14:31,918 --> 00:14:35,046 My first song was Ain't That A Shame, an old rock hit, Fats Domino 91 00:14:35,922 --> 00:14:42,327 When I was 13, 14, I used to be at the back of the class, drawing 92 00:14:42,562 --> 00:14:48,057 Trying to draw guitars, big cello cut-away guitars with 'F' holes 93 00:14:48,334 --> 00:14:52,202 Little solid ones with pointy or rounded cut-aways 94 00:14:52,438 --> 00:14:54,804 I was totally into guitars 95 00:14:55,174 --> 00:14:58,507 I heard about a kid who had a guitar and it was �3.10s 96 00:14:58,744 --> 00:15:03,408 Just a little acoustic, round hole guitar 97 00:15:03,649 --> 00:15:07,483 I got the �3.10s from my mother, a lot of money in those days 98 00:15:07,954 --> 00:15:13,358 I suddenly figured out I couldn't sing with this thing in my mouth 99 00:15:13,726 --> 00:15:18,629 so I went back to the shop and traded it in for a guitar 100 00:15:18,864 --> 00:15:21,628 That was a Zenith, the first guitar I ever had 101 00:15:21,867 --> 00:15:24,028 I was about 16 102 00:15:24,270 --> 00:15:28,434 I bought a thirty-bob bass drum - thirty shillings 103 00:15:28,674 --> 00:15:32,804 Just a huge one-sided bass drum 104 00:15:33,112 --> 00:15:37,606 It's a family joke now - "The guitar's OK for a hobby but won't earn you any money" 105 00:15:38,184 --> 00:15:44,054 We'd travel the whole of Liverpool to see someone who knew a new chord 106 00:15:44,290 --> 00:15:48,488 I remember once hearing about a bloke who knew B7 107 00:15:48,728 --> 00:15:54,223 We knew E and A - those are quite easy - but we didn't know B7 108 00:15:54,467 --> 00:15:58,494 That was the missing link. The other chord. The lost chord 109 00:15:58,771 --> 00:16:04,539 We trooped across Liverpool, changed a couple of buses, found this fella 110 00:16:04,810 --> 00:16:07,540 He showed us dum, dum dum - B7 111 00:16:07,813 --> 00:16:12,273 We learned it from him, went home to our mates and went... 112 00:16:14,687 --> 00:16:15,745 Got it! 113 00:16:15,988 --> 00:16:19,685 Paul and I used to just kind of get together, play it a bit 114 00:16:19,925 --> 00:16:24,953 We were just schoolboys. There were no groups till a bit later 115 00:16:33,239 --> 00:16:38,108 In those days we were desperate to get anything 116 00:16:38,344 --> 00:16:40,869 Whatever film came, you'd try and see it 117 00:16:42,315 --> 00:16:47,309 The Girl Can't Help it Released 1956 118 00:16:55,561 --> 00:17:00,123 You went to those movies with Elvis or somebody in them in Liverpool 119 00:17:00,366 --> 00:17:03,563 Everybody was waiting to see him - I'd be waiting there too 120 00:17:03,803 --> 00:17:06,704 They'd all scream when he came on the screen 121 00:17:06,972 --> 00:17:09,270 So we thought, that's a good job! 122 00:17:09,842 --> 00:17:12,504 When The Gir! Can't He!p It came along 123 00:17:12,745 --> 00:17:15,543 Instead of us looking at old black and white movies and thinking 124 00:17:15,815 --> 00:17:18,443 "There's Clyde McPhatter, there's Fats Domino" 125 00:17:18,684 --> 00:17:22,085 people we loved, who were being treated quite shabbily 126 00:17:22,321 --> 00:17:25,882 suddenly this was in colour and in widescreen 127 00:17:26,125 --> 00:17:30,926 At the start of Girl Can't Help lt, Tom Ewell comes on and says... 128 00:17:33,866 --> 00:17:35,663 Widescreen 129 00:17:42,241 --> 00:17:43,503 Colour! 130 00:17:47,146 --> 00:17:50,946 Gorgeous, life-like colour by Deluxe 131 00:18:00,226 --> 00:18:04,720 Sometimes you wonder who's minding the store 132 00:18:05,231 --> 00:18:08,394 You cut to Jayne Mansfield and that's it - the game's over 133 00:18:24,984 --> 00:18:29,114 I went to see Rock Around The Clock in the Isle of Man 134 00:18:29,355 --> 00:18:33,519 My grandparents took me and it was sensational 135 00:18:33,759 --> 00:18:38,526 They ripped up the cinema and this was good for me to see 136 00:18:39,565 --> 00:18:43,797 Bill Haley and The Comets 137 00:18:58,984 --> 00:19:03,387 I went to grammar school with Paul 138 00:19:03,889 --> 00:19:07,916 We started in the same class, then we went into different streams 139 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:13,393 But basically I knew him since I was about eleven 140 00:19:13,632 --> 00:19:19,264 I didn't really know him like a friend until a number of years later 141 00:19:19,505 --> 00:19:22,997 I met George at the Liverpool Institute as well 142 00:19:23,242 --> 00:19:26,837 He was a year younger than Paul and I 143 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:32,176 Neil Aspinall Schoolfriend I met George - we used to smoke behind the air-raid shelters 144 00:19:32,718 --> 00:19:38,714 George and I lived near each other in Liverpool, just a bus stop away 145 00:19:39,124 --> 00:19:42,719 I'd get on the bus and then the stop afterwards George would get on 146 00:19:42,962 --> 00:19:47,023 Being close in age, we'd sit together and we'd talk about stuff and that 147 00:19:47,466 --> 00:19:53,166 In fact he was, I think, about one and a half years younger than me 148 00:19:53,405 --> 00:19:57,808 A big age difference at that time so I suppose I talked down to him a bit 149 00:19:58,043 --> 00:20:01,069 as you do to a kid one and a half years younger than you 150 00:20:01,313 --> 00:20:04,305 When he's sort of 14 and a half and I'm sort of 16 151 00:20:04,550 --> 00:20:08,953 Perhaps I talked down to him because I'd known him as a younger kid 152 00:20:10,389 --> 00:20:14,155 He was always nine months older 153 00:20:14,393 --> 00:20:16,987 Even now, he's still nine months older 154 00:20:18,430 --> 00:20:23,527 Paul met me the first day I did Be Bop A Lu La live on stage 155 00:20:23,769 --> 00:20:27,899 A mutual friend brought him to see my group, The Quarry Men 156 00:20:28,641 --> 00:20:31,735 I had a mate at school called lvan Vaughan 157 00:20:32,011 --> 00:20:36,345 We were born on the same day so we were great mates 158 00:20:36,615 --> 00:20:41,575 One day he said do you want to come to the Woolton Village Fete? 159 00:20:41,854 --> 00:20:47,417 We went along one Saturday afternoon to the field where they had the fete 160 00:20:47,693 --> 00:20:52,926 There was a wagon, and on the back of this a little stage 161 00:20:53,165 --> 00:20:55,963 On stage were a few lads 162 00:20:56,201 --> 00:21:00,797 One particular guy I noticed at the front had a checked shirt 163 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,909 Blondish hair, a bit curly, sideboards, looking pretty cool 164 00:21:06,145 --> 00:21:11,378 He was playing guitar, not a very good one 165 00:21:11,650 --> 00:21:15,677 But he was making a good job of it and I remember being impressed 166 00:21:15,921 --> 00:21:20,187 He was doing a song by the Del Vikings called Come Go With Me 167 00:21:20,426 --> 00:21:23,486 He obviously didn't know the words 168 00:21:23,729 --> 00:21:27,392 He was pulling in lyrics from blues songs, so instead of going 169 00:21:27,633 --> 00:21:31,626 "Come, little darling, come go with me" which is right 170 00:21:31,870 --> 00:21:35,966 he'd got "Down down down to the Penitentiary" 171 00:21:36,208 --> 00:21:39,644 He'd be doing the sort of stuff he'd heard on Big Bill Broonzy records 172 00:21:39,878 --> 00:21:44,679 I thought, that's clever, he's pretty good. That was John 173 00:21:45,751 --> 00:21:49,744 We met and talked after the show and I saw he had talent 174 00:21:49,989 --> 00:21:53,982 He was playing backstage, doing Twenty F! Ight Rock by Eddie Cochran 175 00:22:08,207 --> 00:22:12,541 The thing that impressed him most was I knew all the words 176 00:22:57,322 --> 00:23:02,555 I was the singer and the leader, I made the decision to have him in the group 177 00:23:02,795 --> 00:23:09,633 Was it better to have a guy who was better than the people I had, or not? 178 00:23:09,868 --> 00:23:13,497 That decision was to let Paul in and make the group stronger 179 00:23:14,006 --> 00:23:17,601 I asked him on our first meeting "Do you want to join the group?" 180 00:23:17,843 --> 00:23:20,641 I think he said yes the next day 181 00:23:24,249 --> 00:23:26,342 George came through Paul 182 00:23:26,752 --> 00:23:30,347 "I've got this friend who's really good, you know" 183 00:23:30,589 --> 00:23:36,585 He said well yeah, like what, and I said he plays Raunchy perfectly 184 00:23:40,165 --> 00:23:43,601 We all loved that song so we said well, got to try him out 185 00:23:43,836 --> 00:23:50,503 We ended up on the top deck of an empty late night bus, just us 186 00:23:50,776 --> 00:23:55,543 and we said "Go on, George, get your guitar out, you show him" 187 00:23:56,548 --> 00:24:00,109 Sure enough - note perfect - Raunchy. "You're in" 188 00:24:37,089 --> 00:24:41,822 The first thing we ever recorded was That'!! Be The Day, a Buddy Holly song 189 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,590 and one of Paul's, called In Spite of A!! The Danger 190 00:24:46,965 --> 00:24:52,961 That record, the first we ever made, is in Liverpool somewhere 191 00:24:54,306 --> 00:24:58,936 First Recordings 1958 192 00:25:16,495 --> 00:25:22,263 Everybody hung around at the Jacaranda Club near the art school 193 00:25:22,534 --> 00:25:26,095 and near Paul and George's school in the centre of Liverpool 194 00:25:26,371 --> 00:25:31,832 This was before we really formed a band, just me, Paul and George 195 00:25:39,685 --> 00:25:42,882 We used to show up for gigs with just three guitars 196 00:25:43,121 --> 00:25:47,717 The person booking us would say "Where's the drums then?" 197 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,056 To cover this eventuality we'd say "The rhythm's in the guitars" 198 00:25:52,197 --> 00:25:58,602 We once tried to do this audition for Carol Levis Discoveries 199 00:25:59,471 --> 00:26:03,237 Everybody would go on and audition 200 00:26:03,475 --> 00:26:09,505 Then they'd pick out somebody and go "OK, you, you and you" 201 00:26:09,748 --> 00:26:13,707 They'd pick out about 20 different acts 202 00:26:13,952 --> 00:26:19,356 They'd have a clapometer and the winner would go on to the final 203 00:26:19,591 --> 00:26:24,221 It just kept on going. We went in for one of those 204 00:26:24,830 --> 00:26:29,392 We were on the train to Manchester, rehearsing our act 205 00:26:29,635 --> 00:26:35,596 Only me and George had our guitars. John must have sold his or bust it 206 00:26:35,974 --> 00:26:38,943 OK, there's just the two of us with guitars 207 00:26:39,211 --> 00:26:43,011 As it happened it looked good. Paul was left-handed 208 00:26:43,248 --> 00:26:46,706 I was right-handed - still am - 209 00:26:46,952 --> 00:26:51,480 John was in the middle, standing with a hand on each shoulder 210 00:26:51,723 --> 00:26:53,714 "Think it over, what you just said" 211 00:26:55,294 --> 00:26:59,663 Me and George - John did the lead and we were also going to do Rave On 212 00:26:59,932 --> 00:27:04,426 We did it, he put his arms around us and it was OK. We didn't win, as usual 213 00:27:04,670 --> 00:27:08,868 but I believe that day some unfortunate person in the theatre 214 00:27:09,107 --> 00:27:12,099 was relieved of his guitar 215 00:27:20,252 --> 00:27:25,212 Stuart Sutcliffe Stuart was John's friend from art college. He was a very good painter 216 00:27:25,490 --> 00:27:32,259 We were jealous of John's friendship, John being a bit older than us 217 00:27:33,565 --> 00:27:36,966 He was a little bit, you know... 218 00:27:37,202 --> 00:27:41,400 You wanted to sit next to him on a bus - he was the older fella 219 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,272 So when Stuart came in he was taking a bit of that position away from us 220 00:27:47,512 --> 00:27:50,504 We had to take a little bit of a back seat 221 00:27:50,916 --> 00:27:56,912 The story was that he sold his painting to a John Moore exhibition 222 00:27:57,589 --> 00:28:00,387 So the question was what do you do with 75 quid? 223 00:28:00,625 --> 00:28:05,119 We said "That happens to be the exact amount it takes to buy a Hofner bass" 224 00:28:05,364 --> 00:28:07,764 That would be a great thing to spend the money on 225 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,596 He said "No, I'm a painter, I've got to spend it on paints" 226 00:28:12,838 --> 00:28:16,774 We said "No, Stuart, really" and John and I gave him a persuasive argument 227 00:28:17,009 --> 00:28:21,673 that the best thing to do, obviously, was to buy this Hofner bass 228 00:28:21,913 --> 00:28:27,112 Which he did. The only trouble was, he couldn't play it 229 00:28:27,486 --> 00:28:31,889 But it was better to have a bass player who couldn't play 230 00:28:32,124 --> 00:28:34,388 than to not have a bass player at all 231 00:28:46,371 --> 00:28:50,831 Early Recordings Made in Liverpool - 1960 232 00:30:34,346 --> 00:30:38,476 Ringo was a professional drummer who sang and performed 233 00:30:38,717 --> 00:30:43,177 in one of the top groups in Liverpool before we even had a drummer 234 00:30:43,655 --> 00:30:49,616 Rory and the Hurricanes were the first who wanted to get into rock'n'roll 235 00:30:50,529 --> 00:30:53,726 We were playing skiffle before that 236 00:30:53,965 --> 00:30:59,267 and he had this rock'n'roll blonde hair attitude 237 00:30:59,504 --> 00:31:04,271 Johnny Guitar was just, for me, Liverpool's Jimi Hendrix at the time 238 00:31:04,509 --> 00:31:09,845 The one good story about Rory and the Hurricanes, of which I was a member... 239 00:31:10,081 --> 00:31:15,644 We were playing the Cavern and Johnny Guitar had a radio 240 00:31:15,887 --> 00:31:20,324 He plugged his guitar into the radio so we could be a bit more rock'n'roll 241 00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:26,327 They threw us off for being rock'n'roll. He plugged in the radio - get OFF! 242 00:31:26,798 --> 00:31:30,427 John thought of the name Beatles and he'll tell you about it now 243 00:31:31,236 --> 00:31:33,602 I had a vision when I was 12 244 00:31:33,838 --> 00:31:38,639 I saw a man on a flaming pie and he said "You are Beatles with an A", and we are 245 00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:43,046 John put this thing in Mersey Beat 246 00:31:43,281 --> 00:31:47,650 which was also started by Bill Harry who went to art college with John 247 00:31:47,886 --> 00:31:52,914 just saying that this little guy appeared on a flaming pie - 248 00:31:53,158 --> 00:31:57,185 you know, in the sky - and said "Let there be Beatles - with an A" 249 00:31:57,696 --> 00:32:02,156 John got the name Beatles ages ago 250 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,029 Everybody was thinking of a name and he thought of Beatles 251 00:32:06,838 --> 00:32:10,433 I was looking for a name like the Crickets, that meant two things 252 00:32:10,675 --> 00:32:13,200 and from Crickets I got to Beatles 253 00:32:13,445 --> 00:32:17,404 When you said it, it was crawly things; when you read it, it was beat music 254 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,788 That's better, Johnny 255 00:32:25,624 --> 00:32:29,424 You know I missed you. Ever since the club split up I missed you 256 00:32:29,961 --> 00:32:32,122 We all missed you. Do you miss him? 257 00:32:32,797 --> 00:32:35,960 Yeah! All the Beetles missed you 258 00:32:39,237 --> 00:32:44,004 When we started off we had a manager in Liverpool called Allan Williams 259 00:32:44,242 --> 00:32:50,238 He was a small bloke, with a high voice, little Welsh accent 260 00:32:50,815 --> 00:32:54,683 He was a great motivator, he was very good for us at the time 261 00:32:54,919 --> 00:33:00,585 He eventually got us an audition at one of his clubs, the Blue Angel 262 00:33:00,825 --> 00:33:03,555 It was for Larry Parnes 263 00:33:03,795 --> 00:33:07,993 who had a big stable, so-called, of rock stars in London 264 00:33:08,233 --> 00:33:11,669 so this was a big opening to get this audition 265 00:33:12,103 --> 00:33:14,094 We showed up there 266 00:33:14,372 --> 00:33:18,502 I think half the groups in Liverpool showed up that day 267 00:33:18,743 --> 00:33:22,474 Photos were taken - this is us at the audition 268 00:33:22,714 --> 00:33:25,148 Something for Larry to look at 269 00:33:25,383 --> 00:33:30,377 We always had to ask Stuart to turn away from the camera 270 00:33:30,655 --> 00:33:36,218 As he couldn't play that well. We might be in A and he might be in A flat 271 00:33:36,494 --> 00:33:41,454 Someone might spot this - we always noticed where people were on the guitars 272 00:33:41,966 --> 00:33:46,426 So there are a few photos of Stuart with his back to the camera 273 00:33:46,671 --> 00:33:49,799 That was the reason 274 00:33:50,041 --> 00:33:54,876 We got the audition - Larry picked up quite a few Liverpool groups 275 00:33:55,113 --> 00:33:59,106 Our only disappointment was that all the people in his stable 276 00:33:59,351 --> 00:34:02,115 were like... Marty Wilde 277 00:34:02,354 --> 00:34:06,882 They all had very furious names, Billy Fury, somebody Tempest, 278 00:34:07,125 --> 00:34:11,789 Storm, Hurricane - they were all tempestuous names, you know 279 00:34:12,530 --> 00:34:17,558 There's Ron Whitcherley, 17, known to his fans as Billy Fury 280 00:34:17,802 --> 00:34:20,396 Guaranteed �1000 in his first year 281 00:34:20,905 --> 00:34:26,673 Roy Taylor, 18, alias Vince Eager, �5000 by his fifth year 282 00:34:27,445 --> 00:34:32,644 We thought this would be great, but we ended up with Johnny Gentle 283 00:34:33,318 --> 00:34:36,253 Slight disappointment in the name department there 284 00:34:37,088 --> 00:34:42,788 John Askew - or Johnny Gentle - 22, from Merseyside 285 00:34:43,328 --> 00:34:46,820 Duffy Power, real name Raymond Howard, 17 286 00:34:47,365 --> 00:34:52,302 All - Eager, Power, Gentle, Fury - in the lucrative business, as someone said 287 00:34:52,570 --> 00:34:55,767 of putting teenage growing pains to music 288 00:34:56,274 --> 00:34:58,299 Do you re-christen all your boys? 289 00:34:58,576 --> 00:35:01,739 Larry Parnes Oh yes, I think this is terribly important 290 00:35:02,013 --> 00:35:06,074 Otherwise they would go on the stage with unsuitable names 291 00:35:06,518 --> 00:35:11,979 They wanted a more imaginative name than The Beatles 292 00:35:12,223 --> 00:35:16,387 They came up with Long John Silver and the Beetles and we thought no 293 00:35:16,628 --> 00:35:19,153 It ended up as Long John and the Silver Beetles 294 00:35:19,397 --> 00:35:23,800 We became the Silver Beetles for this tour of Scotland 295 00:35:24,068 --> 00:35:29,096 So we thought, if the name of the group's been changed and he's Long John 296 00:35:29,374 --> 00:35:34,869 We all changed our names but people thought that John didn't - John was cool - 297 00:35:35,113 --> 00:35:40,449 but he was Long John for that tour. He was quite happy to be Long John too 298 00:35:40,685 --> 00:35:44,587 I thought, if he's changing it maybe we all should 299 00:35:44,856 --> 00:35:48,758 We all fancied it, our first foray into professional entertainment 300 00:35:48,993 --> 00:35:52,224 Well, that's what you do, isn't it? You change your name 301 00:35:52,464 --> 00:35:55,831 I became Paul Ramon, for some reason 302 00:35:56,067 --> 00:35:58,763 I thought it was a very exotic French-sounding name 303 00:35:59,804 --> 00:36:02,466 And I was Carl Harrison 304 00:36:06,444 --> 00:36:11,347 It doesn't sound like a stage name now, it's just that I loved Carl Perkins 305 00:36:11,950 --> 00:36:14,885 Stuart became Stuart de Stael 306 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:19,112 He liked Nicholas de Stael, an abstract expressionist painter 307 00:36:19,991 --> 00:36:25,224 Anyway, that was a pretty pathetic tour. By the end of it we were broke 308 00:36:25,497 --> 00:36:31,231 We had no money, we were all cold, freezing, and just miserable 309 00:36:31,469 --> 00:36:36,873 That was it. We came back to Liverpool and nothing happened really 310 00:36:37,108 --> 00:36:41,841 I felt really sad - we were like orphans or something 311 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:47,518 Our shoes were full of holes, our trousers were a mess... 312 00:36:47,752 --> 00:36:53,748 Larry Parnes' fella, Johnny Gentle, had this posh suit and stuff 313 00:36:54,225 --> 00:36:58,389 I remember trying to play Won't You Wear My Ring 314 00:36:58,630 --> 00:37:02,396 That's what he was doing - one of those Elvis tunes 315 00:37:02,634 --> 00:37:06,900 And we were crummy, we were really an embarrassment 316 00:37:07,171 --> 00:37:09,435 We didn't have amplifiers or anything 317 00:37:09,674 --> 00:37:13,610 And so I would say to the others when we were all depressed 318 00:37:13,845 --> 00:37:18,680 thinking the group was going nowhere and this is a shitty deal 319 00:37:18,917 --> 00:37:20,908 I'd say "Where are we going, fellas?" 320 00:37:21,152 --> 00:37:24,349 They'd go "To the top, Johnny" in pseudo American voices 321 00:37:24,589 --> 00:37:28,548 I'd say "Where's that, fellas?" "To the toppermost of the poppermost" 322 00:37:28,793 --> 00:37:31,887 I'd say "Right", then we'd all cheer up 323 00:37:32,730 --> 00:37:38,566 Derry and the Seniors got offered a job in London 324 00:37:38,803 --> 00:37:42,762 Give up your jobs and come to London and you're going with Larry, right? 325 00:37:43,007 --> 00:37:46,807 They gave up their jobs and then didn't get a gig 326 00:37:47,045 --> 00:37:49,639 so they were a bit pissed off 327 00:37:49,881 --> 00:37:55,376 They said "We're going to London, we'll get Parnsey and beat him up" 328 00:37:55,653 --> 00:38:01,182 Allan Williams, the club owner who did the audition... 329 00:38:01,426 --> 00:38:06,864 probably the first big groupie of Liverpool, drove them to London 330 00:38:07,131 --> 00:38:12,228 He said bring your instruments, lads, you might get a gig 331 00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:16,270 So he got them a gig in the Two I's in London 332 00:38:17,208 --> 00:38:24,114 This fella, Bruno Koschmider, from a club in Hamburg... 333 00:38:24,549 --> 00:38:29,248 I think it was him, he saw them and booked them to go to Germany 334 00:38:29,487 --> 00:38:35,016 Later he said he wanted another band - we were probably cheap 335 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:41,390 Allan Williams said OK, lads, you can have this job in Germany 336 00:38:41,633 --> 00:38:46,661 The only problem is he's asked for a 5-piece band 337 00:38:46,904 --> 00:38:51,500 At that point Paul was the drummer because all the drummers didn't show up 338 00:38:51,776 --> 00:38:57,043 So that's where I said "OK, I remember this guy..." and we went up to this club 339 00:38:57,281 --> 00:39:01,115 Pete Best - he had a drum kit for Christmas 340 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,713 He was known on Merseyside as mean, moody and magnificent 341 00:39:08,192 --> 00:39:11,923 We had all sorts of different drummers 342 00:39:12,163 --> 00:39:15,155 Few people owned drum kits. They're expensive 343 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,925 And they were usually idiots 344 00:39:18,169 --> 00:39:22,503 We got Pete Best because we needed a drummer to go to Hamburg 345 00:39:22,807 --> 00:39:27,301 He came down to the Jacaranda Club 346 00:39:27,879 --> 00:39:32,543 We did a quick audition, jumped in the van and went to Hamburg 347 00:41:09,347 --> 00:41:13,681 We ended up in Hamburg very late one night 348 00:41:13,918 --> 00:41:17,979 There was no one there to meet us, but we could find Hamburg off the map 349 00:41:18,256 --> 00:41:23,216 But St Pauli district and the Reeperbahn... but everyone knew 350 00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:32,568 We found the street and the club but it was all closed 351 00:41:32,804 --> 00:41:36,467 We had no hotel or anything and it was now bedtime 352 00:41:36,707 --> 00:41:41,542 We managed to shake up someone from a neighbouring club 353 00:41:41,813 --> 00:41:45,749 They opened the club and we slept in the alcoves on the red leather seats 354 00:41:46,751 --> 00:41:52,246 The second night we moved into the Bambi Kino for 2 or 3 months 355 00:41:52,590 --> 00:41:56,492 I remember Rory Storm and his group coming with Ringo to see us 356 00:41:56,727 --> 00:42:02,427 They arrived a bit later and came to see how the groups were living 357 00:42:02,667 --> 00:42:05,898 They were really shocked 358 00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:09,298 One of us had a Union Jack over us to keep warm 359 00:42:09,574 --> 00:42:15,535 Rory and I were staying in one room in the German Seamen's Mission 360 00:42:15,947 --> 00:42:19,383 That was luxury - absoloute bloody luxury 361 00:42:19,650 --> 00:42:24,781 Before we got to the club, the Kaiserkeller 362 00:42:25,056 --> 00:42:28,423 Howie Casey, sax player from Liverpool 363 00:42:28,693 --> 00:42:32,595 who also played a lot with Paul McCartney later on 364 00:42:32,830 --> 00:42:36,231 They were sleeping for a while in the back of the club 365 00:42:36,467 --> 00:42:39,459 I'll never forget when we arrived they said: 366 00:42:39,604 --> 00:42:41,834 "This is where you live" 367 00:42:41,973 --> 00:42:48,936 Just a couple of old settees and Union Jacks for sheets 368 00:42:49,213 --> 00:42:52,546 We don't want this, we've got suits, we're leaving, blah, blah, blah 369 00:42:52,783 --> 00:42:56,913 So we went to this life of luxury in the German Seamen's Mission 370 00:42:57,555 --> 00:42:59,546 Everything else was such a buzz 371 00:42:59,790 --> 00:43:05,126 In the middle of the naughtiest city in the world at 17 years old 372 00:43:05,363 --> 00:43:07,831 It was exciting 373 00:43:08,532 --> 00:43:12,969 And learning about the gangsters, the transvestites 374 00:43:13,204 --> 00:43:16,264 You know, it was like that - there's the hookers... 375 00:43:16,507 --> 00:43:21,911 We were just kids let off the leash, straight from Liverpool to Hamburg 376 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,714 We were used to little Liverpool girls 377 00:43:24,949 --> 00:43:29,716 but in Hamburg if you got a girlfriend she's likely to be a stripper 378 00:43:29,954 --> 00:43:34,755 The only kind of people who were around late at night there 379 00:43:35,726 --> 00:43:41,062 For someone who'd not really had much sex before, which we hadn't 380 00:43:41,332 --> 00:43:45,666 to be suddenly involved with the sort of hard-core striptease artist 381 00:43:45,903 --> 00:43:51,432 who obviously knew a thing or two about sex, was quite an eye-opener 382 00:43:59,216 --> 00:44:04,984 That was also a point of our lives where we found Dexedrine 383 00:44:05,256 --> 00:44:07,315 Uppers, you know, pills 384 00:44:07,558 --> 00:44:13,519 The only way we could continue was to be on Preludin, they were called 385 00:44:13,764 --> 00:44:16,858 We bought them over the counter so didn't think we were doing anything 386 00:44:17,134 --> 00:44:20,228 But you'd get really wired and go on for days 387 00:44:20,805 --> 00:44:24,206 So with beer and Preludin, that's how we survived 388 00:44:24,709 --> 00:44:30,545 We used to just be up there frothing at the mouth, just stomping away 389 00:44:30,815 --> 00:44:34,114 Those were the days 390 00:44:56,807 --> 00:45:00,072 In Hamburg, 'cos we had to work 6 or 7 hours a night - 391 00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:05,207 on stage, with no rest - 392 00:45:05,449 --> 00:45:08,680 the waiters always had these pills called Preludin 393 00:45:09,353 --> 00:45:14,347 When they saw the musicians falling over with tiredness or drink 394 00:45:14,892 --> 00:45:16,018 they'd give you the pill 395 00:45:16,293 --> 00:45:19,785 You'd take the pill and you'd be talking, you'd sober up 396 00:45:20,031 --> 00:45:24,229 You'd work until the pill wore off, then you'd have to have another 397 00:45:24,769 --> 00:45:28,364 I think that's where we found our style 398 00:45:28,606 --> 00:45:32,872 We developed our style because of this fella who used to say: 399 00:45:33,110 --> 00:45:39,049 "You've got to make a show for the people. Mach Schau" 400 00:45:39,283 --> 00:45:44,846 so we used to Mach Schau and John used to dance round like a gorilla 401 00:45:45,089 --> 00:45:48,081 We'd all knock our heads together and things like that 402 00:45:48,959 --> 00:45:53,828 When we met in Germany, they played one club, we played another 403 00:45:54,065 --> 00:45:56,260 They were just great by then 404 00:45:56,534 --> 00:46:02,200 I used to like... we'd do 12 hours at a weekend between two bands 405 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,375 when we ended up at the same club 406 00:46:05,609 --> 00:46:11,844 If they had the last set, I'd be semi-drunk, demanding slow songs 407 00:46:12,216 --> 00:46:17,586 He used to like the sort of blues feel of the late night sessions 408 00:46:17,855 --> 00:46:22,554 There was hardly anybody there. I could see what he liked about it 409 00:46:22,793 --> 00:46:26,559 We were playing a bit more for ourselves by that time of night 410 00:46:26,797 --> 00:46:29,265 because there was no one in 411 00:46:29,533 --> 00:46:33,594 This was all sort of bluesey - B sides and lesser known tracks 412 00:46:33,838 --> 00:46:39,435 His particular favourite - he always used to request it - was 3.30 B! Ues 413 00:46:52,756 --> 00:46:56,214 We made friends with a lot of people 414 00:46:56,794 --> 00:47:01,356 Our real friends were the ones known now... 415 00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,762 Klaus Voormann 416 00:47:05,035 --> 00:47:07,026 Jurgen Vollmer 417 00:47:07,271 --> 00:47:11,867 and Astrid, who took all the famous photographs of us at that period 418 00:47:12,376 --> 00:47:18,337 They liked all the rock'n'roll stuff, the quiffed back hairdos... 419 00:47:18,816 --> 00:47:22,650 the leather outfits, the shades 420 00:47:22,887 --> 00:47:27,950 They weren't really rockers or mods, they were something in the middle 421 00:47:28,192 --> 00:47:32,492 They called themselves 'exies' - existentialists 422 00:47:33,197 --> 00:47:35,256 They were art students really 423 00:48:42,866 --> 00:48:45,198 Our best work was never recorded 424 00:48:45,436 --> 00:48:49,372 We were performers in Liverpool, Hamburg and round the dance halls 425 00:48:49,607 --> 00:48:52,474 What we generated was fantastic 426 00:48:55,246 --> 00:48:59,307 I was 17 when we first went out there and went to the Indra Club 427 00:48:59,550 --> 00:49:02,849 and then got moved to the Kaiserkeller 428 00:49:03,087 --> 00:49:07,183 That ended up with us getting the gig to go to the Top Ten Club 429 00:49:07,424 --> 00:49:11,417 Right before that happened, I got busted for being under age 430 00:49:11,695 --> 00:49:17,156 They had this situation in Germany I'd never come across before 431 00:49:17,401 --> 00:49:19,392 which was a curfew 432 00:49:19,637 --> 00:49:24,870 After 10 o'clock at night anybody under 18 had to get out 433 00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:30,342 I was only 17, I was in the band and I started getting worried 434 00:49:30,614 --> 00:49:36,109 Eventually somebody found out we didn't have any work permits or visas 435 00:49:36,353 --> 00:49:38,844 so they started closing in on us 436 00:49:39,089 --> 00:49:43,116 The Police came one day and they just booted me out 437 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,729 That was at a critical time because we'd decided - 438 00:49:47,965 --> 00:49:50,331 we'd been offered a job to go to this other club 439 00:49:52,403 --> 00:49:55,804 The Top Ten was the club we were ambitious to play at 440 00:49:56,307 --> 00:50:02,303 It was a slightly better club, it was on the main Reeperbahn 441 00:50:02,946 --> 00:50:09,146 As we were leaving, me and Pete Best were packing up - the last to leave 442 00:50:09,386 --> 00:50:13,413 He found a condom in his luggage 443 00:50:13,691 --> 00:50:18,788 What we did, just for a laugh, outside in the corrider - 444 00:50:19,029 --> 00:50:21,998 concrete, nothing could have caught fire at all - 445 00:50:22,232 --> 00:50:25,827 we pinned it up on the wall and for a boyish prank we set fire to it 446 00:50:26,070 --> 00:50:30,097 So it left a little sort of black rubber stain on the wall 447 00:50:30,374 --> 00:50:35,107 That was like "Right, we're going, hey hey, on to better things" 448 00:50:35,346 --> 00:50:40,443 The fella wasn't pleased we were going to the new club anyway 449 00:50:40,684 --> 00:50:44,677 because we were taking all our business, all his business 450 00:50:44,922 --> 00:50:48,915 So he rang the police and we were just walking down the Reeperbahn 451 00:50:51,995 --> 00:50:56,728 We were put in jail for about 3 hours - first time in our lives 452 00:50:56,967 --> 00:50:58,958 Bloody hell, a German jail! 453 00:51:02,806 --> 00:51:06,537 The new club owners where we were going to 454 00:51:06,810 --> 00:51:10,211 gave them a bottle of scotch or something and got us out 455 00:51:10,647 --> 00:51:15,084 Well, Paul and Pete got deported 456 00:51:15,319 --> 00:51:18,846 for burning the condom on the wall 457 00:51:19,089 --> 00:51:23,617 So they were back before me, and John got back about two days later 458 00:51:23,894 --> 00:51:29,992 I was really happy, thinking, oh great! That's the supportive nature you see 459 00:51:30,234 --> 00:51:36,662 Stuart stayed there 'cos he decided to get verheiratet with Astrid 460 00:51:37,808 --> 00:51:42,472 We went back when I was 18, we were backing up Tony Sheridan 461 00:51:42,713 --> 00:51:46,740 At that point this fella came into the club 462 00:51:46,984 --> 00:51:52,786 They said he's a famous producer and musician, Bert Kaempfert 463 00:51:53,290 --> 00:51:57,784 His claim to fame was he had a number 1 hit in America 464 00:51:58,028 --> 00:52:00,019 Not only was he a record producer 465 00:52:00,264 --> 00:52:04,030 but he had a hit in America called Wonder! And by Night 466 00:52:04,268 --> 00:52:06,896 It turned out to be a trumpet solo 467 00:52:07,171 --> 00:52:11,972 He came in and this buzz went around "We've got to be really good 468 00:52:12,209 --> 00:52:15,201 "We may get a chance to record" - which we did 469 00:52:15,446 --> 00:52:21,112 He came back and asked us to come in the studio with Sheridan and record 470 00:52:21,351 --> 00:52:23,842 We were all pleased with ourselves 471 00:52:24,087 --> 00:52:28,285 But he just wanted us to back up Sheridan 472 00:52:28,525 --> 00:52:32,427 I remember feeling depressed but we did get to do My Bonnie 473 00:52:57,154 --> 00:53:00,555 While we were out there, we started to see other groups 474 00:53:00,791 --> 00:53:06,525 and started to get a little bit dissatisfied with Pete 475 00:53:06,830 --> 00:53:12,996 I remember him not turning up for gigs and we kept getting Ringo in 476 00:53:13,370 --> 00:53:17,397 Ringo Starr, who changed his name before all of us 477 00:53:17,641 --> 00:53:22,738 He had a beard and was grown up and had a Zephyr Zodiac 478 00:53:23,013 --> 00:53:26,471 which was a very big car in those days 479 00:53:26,717 --> 00:53:29,515 Nobody had this, it was a knock-off probably 480 00:53:29,753 --> 00:53:32,847 Fell off the back of a showroom 481 00:53:34,958 --> 00:53:39,918 Ringo kept sitting in with the band and it seemed like this was it 482 00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:44,223 This happened 3 or 4 times and then that was the end, we were just pals 483 00:53:44,468 --> 00:53:48,461 We'd have a drink after it and then I'd be back with Rory 484 00:53:48,705 --> 00:53:51,902 Around this time Stuart and I got a little bit fraught too 485 00:53:52,175 --> 00:53:57,408 I claim that I was trying to make sure we were musically very good 486 00:53:57,648 --> 00:54:00,446 but this did create a couple of rifts 487 00:54:00,684 --> 00:54:05,144 I could have been more sensitive but who's sensitive at that age 488 00:54:05,889 --> 00:54:11,418 When we first met him he couldn't play at all - when he first got a bass 489 00:54:11,695 --> 00:54:16,428 He learned a few tunes - occasionally it was a bit embarrassing 490 00:54:16,667 --> 00:54:21,263 If it had a lot of changes to it he was... but he knew that too 491 00:54:21,505 --> 00:54:25,566 That's why he was never really at ease being in the band 492 00:54:25,809 --> 00:54:30,712 That's why he left after the gig in Hamburg - to go back to art college 493 00:54:30,948 --> 00:54:34,509 At that point Paul was still playing guitar 494 00:54:34,751 --> 00:54:38,482 I remember saying "One of us is going to be the bass player" 495 00:54:38,722 --> 00:54:42,749 I said I'm not doing it and John wasn't doing it either 496 00:54:42,993 --> 00:54:44,984 He went for it 497 00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:57,206 He became the bass player so then we were a four-piece band 498 00:55:05,916 --> 00:55:10,649 In Liverpool we got quite a few bookings - they thought we were German 499 00:55:10,887 --> 00:55:15,290 They billed us from Hamburg and said "You speak good English" 500 00:55:15,525 --> 00:55:19,586 We went back to Germany. We had a bit more money so bought leather pants 501 00:55:19,830 --> 00:55:24,028 We looked like 4 Gene Vincents, only a bit younger, I think 502 00:55:24,267 --> 00:55:30,831 Back in Liverpool, all the groups were doing this Shadows stuff 503 00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:36,245 The Shadows 504 00:55:37,748 --> 00:55:41,445 That's why we became popular because they couldn't believe it 505 00:55:41,685 --> 00:55:43,482 There were all these dum de dum de dum... 506 00:55:46,056 --> 00:55:49,890 and then suddenly we come on - wild men in leather suits 507 00:55:52,963 --> 00:55:56,023 I think Pete Best said to them 508 00:55:56,266 --> 00:56:01,260 that I'd drive them to the gigs and stuff 509 00:56:01,505 --> 00:56:05,498 I think I got a pound a night, or a pound a gig 510 00:56:05,776 --> 00:56:07,835 Five bob off each of them 511 00:56:08,078 --> 00:56:12,674 They needed transport to get to the Cavern and wherever 512 00:56:13,550 --> 00:56:17,281 We played the Cavern before we ever went to Hamburg, I believe, 513 00:56:17,521 --> 00:56:21,787 in the days when it was a jazz and folk club 514 00:56:23,293 --> 00:56:28,560 I remember playing there and them handing us notes saying: 515 00:56:29,132 --> 00:56:33,296 "Stop playing this music, this is a jazz club" 516 00:56:34,404 --> 00:56:40,309 We were saying "We'd like to do this tune by Leadbelly 517 00:56:40,544 --> 00:56:43,342 "It's called Long Ta!! Sa!!y" 518 00:56:43,613 --> 00:56:46,946 We'd do it... and finally they kicked us off 519 00:57:04,534 --> 00:57:07,196 The Cavern is their home 520 00:57:07,437 --> 00:57:12,033 Cathy - A Fan from the Cavern Club It's where they first started and where they've played most 521 00:57:13,043 --> 00:57:17,639 I've had a couple of requests to do Kansas City so we'd like to do it 522 00:57:22,953 --> 00:57:27,322 We did well at the Cavern and attracted some big audiences 523 00:57:28,091 --> 00:57:30,184 And the word got around 524 00:57:30,727 --> 00:57:34,959 A kid had gone into Brian's record store and had asked for My Bonnie 525 00:57:35,465 --> 00:57:39,663 He found out that the Beatles were supposed to be a Liverpool band 526 00:57:40,203 --> 00:57:43,366 and were playing the Cavern so he came down to check us out 527 00:57:43,874 --> 00:57:47,640 I remember Bob Wooler, the disc jockey, saying: 528 00:57:48,645 --> 00:57:52,240 "We have a Mr Epstein who owns NEMS Enterprises in here" 529 00:57:52,482 --> 00:57:56,748 Everybody was going "Ooh, wow, big, big deal" 530 00:58:02,392 --> 00:58:05,691 This was quite a new world for me 531 00:58:05,929 --> 00:58:09,865 I was amazed by this sort of dark, smoky... 532 00:58:10,367 --> 00:58:15,464 dank atmosphere with this beat music playing away 533 00:58:16,473 --> 00:58:22,901 Brian Epstein The Beatles were then just four lads on that rather dimly lit stage 534 00:58:23,713 --> 00:58:25,704 somewhat ill-clad 535 00:58:25,949 --> 00:58:30,511 Their presentation left a little to be desired as far as I was concerned 536 00:58:30,754 --> 00:58:34,952 I'd been interested in the theatre and acting for a long time 537 00:58:35,192 --> 00:58:40,562 but amongst all that, something tremendous came over 538 00:58:40,797 --> 00:58:43,960 I was immediately struck by their music 539 00:58:44,201 --> 00:58:47,295 their beat and sense of humour on stage 540 00:58:47,571 --> 00:58:52,008 Even when I met them I was struck again by their personal charm 541 00:58:52,242 --> 00:58:55,871 It was there that really it all started 542 00:58:56,847 --> 00:59:01,648 Brian had this shop. And it was good - we used to pick up records 543 00:59:01,885 --> 00:59:07,881 He wanted to manage us and we weren't going anywhere anyway 544 00:59:08,291 --> 00:59:13,456 We said you might as well. He got us jobs, he got us a bit more money 545 00:59:13,730 --> 00:59:18,861 then started getting us radio shows and things like that 546 00:59:19,135 --> 00:59:24,971 Then we got into our suits - he talked us out of the leather suits 547 00:59:25,475 --> 00:59:29,468 It was a bit old hat anyway, all wearing leather gear 548 00:59:29,713 --> 00:59:34,343 and we decided we didn't want to look ridiculous 549 00:59:34,584 --> 00:59:37,576 Often people would laugh 550 00:59:37,854 --> 00:59:41,312 and we didn't want to appear as a gang of idiots 551 00:59:41,558 --> 00:59:45,119 Brian suggested that we just wore ordinary suits 552 00:59:46,229 --> 00:59:51,223 It was later put around that I'd betrayed our heavy leather image 553 00:59:51,468 --> 00:59:54,232 and I wanted us to get suits 554 00:59:54,471 --> 00:59:57,998 but I seem to recall that we all went quite happily 555 00:59:58,241 --> 01:00:02,701 I didn't drag anyone to the tailors, they all went quite happily 556 01:00:03,613 --> 01:00:07,379 We gladly switched into suits 557 01:00:07,651 --> 01:00:11,314 if we were going to get more money, get some more gigs 558 01:00:11,554 --> 01:00:14,546 Brian was a beautiful guy - Brian Epstein 559 01:00:14,791 --> 01:00:17,385 An intuitive, theatrical guy 560 01:00:17,627 --> 01:00:20,562 He knew we had something and he presented us well 561 01:00:21,731 --> 01:00:26,862 I remember we had to drive to London on New Year's Eve 562 01:00:27,103 --> 01:00:32,769 and we did a session for Decca, an audition for Decca 563 01:00:34,277 --> 01:00:39,044 Decca Audition Tape Recorded New Year's Day 1962 564 01:01:18,588 --> 01:01:20,886 When you hear the tape, it's pretty good 565 01:01:21,124 --> 01:01:24,355 It's not great but it's certainly good for then 566 01:01:24,894 --> 01:01:28,796 Dick Rowe, the man who didn't sign us - the head of Decca - 567 01:01:29,032 --> 01:01:33,264 said "Guitar groups are on the way out, Mr Epstein" 568 01:01:50,086 --> 01:01:53,886 So Brian then had this tape which he hawked around 569 01:01:54,124 --> 01:01:59,289 I think somebody in the HMV shop on Oxford Street 570 01:02:00,096 --> 01:02:04,362 knew George Martin and told Brian to go and play the tape to him 571 01:02:04,601 --> 01:02:08,264 and he gave us the audition at Abbey Road 572 01:02:08,605 --> 01:02:13,736 George hadn't done rock'n'roll and we'd never been in a studio 573 01:02:13,877 --> 01:02:16,345 So we learnt a lot together 574 01:02:16,479 --> 01:02:20,882 He had a great musical knowledge and background 575 01:02:21,718 --> 01:02:27,714 They were fairly irreverent, even in those days, which I loved 576 01:02:27,957 --> 01:02:32,758 I like a bit of rebel in people and I liked their sense of humour 577 01:02:32,996 --> 01:02:36,056 After all, that was my main stock-in-trade too 578 01:02:36,332 --> 01:02:41,235 They liked what I'd been doing with Peter Sellers and the Goons 579 01:02:41,471 --> 01:02:44,838 George Martin Record Producer I thought they had tremendous charisma 580 01:02:45,075 --> 01:02:48,238 I knew that that alone would sell them 581 01:02:48,711 --> 01:02:53,580 We did a reasonable audition but he didn't like our drummer 582 01:02:54,117 --> 01:02:57,678 I said to Brian Epstein if... when we do the next session 583 01:02:57,921 --> 01:03:02,415 I won't interfere with you and the Beatles but I'll provide the drummer 584 01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:08,756 We really started to think we needed "the great drummer" in Liverpool 585 01:03:09,532 --> 01:03:13,662 Historically it may look like we did something nasty to Pete 586 01:03:13,903 --> 01:03:18,101 It may have been we could have done it better but the thing was - 587 01:03:18,374 --> 01:03:22,504 as history also shows - Ringo was the member of the band 588 01:03:22,745 --> 01:03:28,980 It's just that he didn't enter the film until that particular scene 589 01:03:30,687 --> 01:03:33,884 It was a Wednesday and Brian called 590 01:03:34,124 --> 01:03:38,686 I don't remember John calling, although it's in somebody's book 591 01:03:39,095 --> 01:03:42,258 "Would you join the band?" 592 01:03:42,532 --> 01:03:46,559 I said "What do you mean?" And he said "Really join the band" 593 01:03:46,803 --> 01:03:50,830 I said "Sure, yeah, when?" And he said now 594 01:03:51,074 --> 01:03:55,101 I said "No, I can't do that - we've got these other four guys here 595 01:03:55,345 --> 01:03:59,406 "We'd got a gig for months and I can't just pull out now" 596 01:03:59,649 --> 01:04:02,584 So I said "I'll join you Saturday" 597 01:04:02,852 --> 01:04:07,016 We used to have Saturday off. That's when they changed the campers 598 01:04:07,290 --> 01:04:10,987 So I gave Rory until Saturday to bring someone in for Sunday 599 01:04:11,227 --> 01:04:16,722 which I thought was giving him a hell of a lot of time, and that was it 600 01:04:27,143 --> 01:04:31,011 We played the Cavern - there was a lot of fighting and shouting 601 01:04:31,247 --> 01:04:33,909 Half of them hated me, half of them loved me 602 01:04:34,551 --> 01:04:39,318 A few people shouted "Ringo never, Pete Best for ever" 603 01:04:39,556 --> 01:04:45,586 After about half an hour I said "Oh, bugger off", and stepped out... 604 01:04:45,828 --> 01:04:49,264 The Cavern had three tunnels 605 01:04:49,532 --> 01:04:53,366 We stepped out of what was the dressing room into this dark tunnel 606 01:04:53,603 --> 01:04:56,595 and some guy butted me right in the eye 607 01:04:57,574 --> 01:05:02,534 That was a bad day - and then I got hit by a bus 608 01:05:03,046 --> 01:05:05,037 George fought for me 609 01:05:05,415 --> 01:05:10,375 At this midday session at the Cavern we proudly present the Beatles 610 01:05:10,687 --> 01:05:15,488 The Cavern Club 22nd August 1962 611 01:07:08,438 --> 01:07:10,429 We want Pete! 612 01:07:12,642 --> 01:07:16,203 When Ringo came to the session for the first time 613 01:07:16,446 --> 01:07:19,244 nobody told me he was coming 614 01:07:19,482 --> 01:07:23,248 I'd booked Andy White and told Brian Epstein I was doing this 615 01:07:23,486 --> 01:07:25,579 I said I just want the three others 616 01:07:25,855 --> 01:07:30,986 Ringo expected to play and I said, "No, I've been bitten once 617 01:07:31,227 --> 01:07:34,219 "I don't even know who you are. We're having Andy White" 618 01:07:37,133 --> 01:07:41,502 I was devastated. I came down ready to roll 619 01:07:41,771 --> 01:07:44,763 and..."We've got Andy White, the professional drummer" 620 01:07:45,842 --> 01:07:50,506 But he's apologised several times since, has old George Martin 621 01:07:50,747 --> 01:07:55,684 But it was devastating and then we did that, which Andy plays on 622 01:07:55,918 --> 01:08:00,446 Then we did the album, which I play on 623 01:08:00,690 --> 01:08:04,683 So Andy wasn't doing anything so great 624 01:08:04,927 --> 01:08:08,055 Well, nothing I couldn't copy when we did the album 625 01:08:08,798 --> 01:08:11,562 Ringo bears those scars to this day 626 01:08:11,801 --> 01:08:13,826 He says "You didn't let me play, did you?" 627 01:10:35,244 --> 01:10:39,340 Their first record, Love Me Do sold 100000 copies 628 01:10:39,882 --> 01:10:44,876 It came to the charts in two days and everybody thought it was a fiddle 629 01:10:45,121 --> 01:10:50,582 because our Manager's stores send in these record returns 630 01:10:50,826 --> 01:10:55,320 Everybody down south thought he was buying them himself 631 01:10:55,565 --> 01:10:59,126 or fiddling the charts - but he wasn't 632 01:10:59,635 --> 01:11:03,002 It was bought by the kids. We had a big following 633 01:11:03,239 --> 01:11:07,938 Who'd had a record? Arthur Askey was the last, I think, from Liverpool 634 01:11:08,678 --> 01:11:11,670 It got to 17 within the following weeks 635 01:11:11,914 --> 01:11:16,112 I don't recall what happened to it then, it probably just died off 636 01:11:16,352 --> 01:11:20,880 but the next time we went to EMI they were really more friendly 637 01:11:21,123 --> 01:11:24,615 "Oh, hello lads, come in" 638 01:11:27,663 --> 01:11:32,066 It was quite normal in those days to find material for artists 639 01:11:32,335 --> 01:11:36,396 by going to Tin Pan Alley and listening to all the publishers' wares 640 01:11:36,639 --> 01:11:40,700 That was a regular part of my life. I'd spend ages looking for songs 641 01:11:40,943 --> 01:11:44,401 And for the Beatles I was really looking for a hit song 642 01:11:44,647 --> 01:11:47,707 It didn't matter so long as it suited the group 643 01:11:47,950 --> 01:11:51,852 Love Me Do was the best one they were able to offer 644 01:11:52,088 --> 01:11:56,821 I found the kind of song I was looking for - one by Mitch Murray 645 01:11:57,093 --> 01:12:00,620 called How Do You Do lt? And I was convinced this was a hit song 646 01:12:07,370 --> 01:12:12,239 It wasn't the most marvellous song I'd ever heard in my life 647 01:12:12,475 --> 01:12:17,071 but it had that essential element to appeal to a lot of people 648 01:12:17,313 --> 01:12:20,077 and we did record it - John took the lead 649 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,656 George said "If you want a number 1 song, this is it" 650 01:12:35,931 --> 01:12:40,391 We said "Yeah, but we can't go back to Liverpool singing that 651 01:12:40,636 --> 01:12:42,763 "We cannot be seen with that song" 652 01:12:43,506 --> 01:12:45,770 So we never issued it 653 01:12:46,008 --> 01:12:50,104 I gave it to Gerry and the Pacemakers and it did become number 1 654 01:13:01,590 --> 01:13:05,219 George Martin asked if we'd anything we'd like to do 655 01:13:05,494 --> 01:13:07,018 We'd got a song called P!ease P!ease Me 656 01:13:07,296 --> 01:13:12,632 John had just written it, a slow Roy Orbison kind of thing 657 01:13:12,868 --> 01:13:18,773 "Come on, please please me." Big note at the end, just like Orbison 658 01:13:19,575 --> 01:13:24,478 I'd heard him doing Only The Lonely and I was trying to..."Please Me" 659 01:13:24,714 --> 01:13:28,912 and I was always intrigued by the words of... 660 01:13:29,151 --> 01:13:33,679 "Please lend your little ears to my pleas," a Bing Crosby song 661 01:13:33,923 --> 01:13:37,916 I was always intrigued by the double use of the word 'please' 662 01:13:38,494 --> 01:13:42,396 And I said, OK. Let's try your song, let's see if it works 663 01:13:42,631 --> 01:13:46,226 At the end of the session I was able to say to them: 664 01:13:46,469 --> 01:13:49,063 "You've got your first number 1. Great!" 665 01:15:39,682 --> 01:15:45,382 Bob Wooler got on the stage, telegram in hand: "I've got news for you" 666 01:15:45,654 --> 01:15:49,420 He looked terrible, we thought something disastrous had happened 667 01:15:49,692 --> 01:15:56,029 "Please Please Me has reached number 1 in the national charts" 668 01:15:56,265 --> 01:15:59,666 The lads themselves just stopped and looked at him 669 01:15:59,935 --> 01:16:04,702 They thought he was joking - he must have been 670 01:16:04,974 --> 01:16:10,105 Lots of people who didn't know the Beatles started cheering and clapping 671 01:16:10,346 --> 01:16:13,338 Three rows of girls at the front all started crying 672 01:16:13,616 --> 01:16:16,278 It was a terrible night 673 01:16:16,518 --> 01:16:19,510 We knew then, they'll get famous and go away 674 01:16:19,755 --> 01:16:22,349 They won't belong to us no more 675 01:18:33,522 --> 01:18:36,116 Subtitles: Screentext 63202

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