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Orpheus.
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A mythical character
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Melancholic lover
and transgressive musician.
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The only deadly
that wandered through the underworld
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and thanks to the power
and charm of his music
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I came back to life.
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This song is called "Orfeo".
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Scott Walker composed it
and interpreted in 1967.
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That's how Scott Walker sounds in 2006.
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Orpheus has returned from the underworld.
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What has happened
in this long journey?
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Who is this man?
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SCOTT WALKER
The man of the XXX century
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There was a generalized idea of him:
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That inclination
to Garbo isolation,
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the fact that always
you will be photographed with a scarf
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and dark glasses and it seems to avoid
get attention.
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I think it has
a way to disappear.
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If you want to be seen, you can see it.
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I do not think he wants to be seen.
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I do not think I even had
the right temperament
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to be the pop star
that everyone expected it to be.
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Vague journalists used to say:
"It sounds like Scott Walker"
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of all the singers
with some vibrato and reverb
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and hum with soft voice.
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Because his voice is unique.
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They said he had a fish and chips
in London,
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who was an interior decorator ...
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They said "Scott Walker"
like someone who drops a name,
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they did not know the implications.
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The truth is that yes
very little of him.
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I do not even know what it looks like.
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He became a hermit,
What was of him?
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How is it?
Still so cute?
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There are many things
that you do not know about Scott Walker,
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and I'm not talking about his private life.
There is a lot of mystery in his music.
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How's that guy?
he became Scott Walker,
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how it happened to belong
to a group of 60
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to be one of the composers
and more amazing musicians
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at the end of the 60s
and in the 70s and 80s.
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I do not know anything.
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Who knows something about Scott Walker?
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When I was 14 15 years old
They were a success.
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I was not a collector,
but a fan anyone.
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This is interesting.
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They are rare items.
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What do we have here?
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Principles of the ...
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This letter is from November 1958,
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of the first fan club
by Scott Engel.
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He must have been about 14 years old.
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This is Scott,
signed by l
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and maybe even
typed by l.
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I sent it to one of the members
from his fan club, Elaine,
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to Honolul .
I received it in 1958.
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A 10 inch vinyl.
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Start making models
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with 13 14 years old.
I think encouraged by his mother.
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Scott did them,
Scott Engel at the time,
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before being a Brother Walker.
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Noel Scott Engel
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I was born in Hamilton, Ohio,
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in 1943.
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He achieved fame as Scott Walker,
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a third part
of the Walker Brothers.
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They were not brothers
and none was called Walker.
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Sometimes by will
or by destiny, I finish
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with the adolescent idol
that he himself had been
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and directed his steps
to outer limits.
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He has not gone on stage
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in almost 30 years
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and has never let in
to the cameras in the study.
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Until today.
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The image that Scott
has in his head
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It's the sound of a guy
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hitting the bar of a bar
with a glass.
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Only because it has
a hermit's life
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They say a lot of nonsense.
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For example:
"Now he sits in the pubs"
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"to watch the darts play".
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What is not wrong,
I find it interesting.
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Or: "He has signed up
to a painting course. "
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I had heard those stories
that usually count
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of the myths,
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and I did not know what to expect.
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Hi Scott.
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- How are you?
- Well thanks.
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The disk he made with us
It was called We love life.
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Nobody bought it.
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Here we are.
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Cool.
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I went to meet him at his manager's house
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and I was sitting there
with a baseball cap.
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That surprised me.
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The visor of the cap
I was lying forward
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so that I could only
see his mouth
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We started talking,
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I played some music
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and I was encouraged that according to
the conversation was progressing
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I was raising the visor
and after about 35 minutes
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We established visual contact.
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It is very good.
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We love it, we keep it.
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Ok, now we go
with the next piece.
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The cap became
for m in an indicator
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of how comfortable
that he felt in a situation,
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because when finally
we recorded the disc
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even got to take off the cap.
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I knew things were going well.
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We have been working for a few weeks,
so to begin with
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there are some holes
in the story line ...
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The editor will ask me
I asked you this and that,
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we go with the boring first.
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Voucher.
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And we passed
to interesting questions.
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"You belonged to the Communist Party?"
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I would like to start
with the days of Sunset Strip.
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At first the Walker Brothers
There were two: Scott and John.
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I think originally the battery
It was not Gary Walker, it was Tiny.
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Tiny Rogers to the battery,
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a little music
to dance together,
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with "Cottonfields,"
the Walker Brothers.
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First appearance
of the Walker Brothers on TV
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If John could not sing he did it
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because he was the bassist.
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They were the beginnings of the disco era,
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the halls of Hollywood
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they were always crowded,
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of boat in boat,
seven nights a week.
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The line went around the building
weekends.
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And the big stars came in
of cinema, like Lana Turner.
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That happened every night,
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It was fantastic.
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The atmosphere was incredible,
there were four great clubs
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and all crammed.
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We went to Whiskey-a-Go-Go
that opened on The Strip,
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we used to play there
weekends,
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It was a great time.
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Everything became more serious when I started
to sing with the Walker Brothers.
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I was not the main vocalist,
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It was John.
But they wanted to do
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a ballad, "Love her",
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and we exchanged the papers
because they wanted a more serious voice,
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It was accidental.
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Gary played with The Standells
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at the Peppermint Lounge
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and decided to come to England
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with P.J. Proby.
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It was a mistake, as was proven
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because I came back,
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but I had seen the environment here
and one night he told us:
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"Would you be interested to come?"
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I had a funder
and everything ready.
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I said of course.
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I've always been interested
the European cinema.
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When I arrived
there was talk of American cinema,
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I was the boring one on duty.
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When I went to live in Scandinavia
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I thought you would be interested
in talking about Bergman and Dreyer.
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But they were not,
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they just wanted to see
Woody Allen movies.
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When we came,
in our first recording,
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I met John Franz.
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He was the producer
of Dusty Springfield here.
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John and me
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we were very worried
for the rhythm,
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we did not know if the British rhythm
in those days ...
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We only knew
that rope and metal would be fine.
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John told us:
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"I'm going to put in good people."
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We arrived at the studio and they were
some fantastic guitarists.
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Then it was to sew and sing.
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After the Beatles and the Stones
we are the following
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The Walker Brothers ...
"Thanks for another number 1"
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It will be sincere, it drove me crazy.
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First, the voice resonated with you,
but also
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He was beautiful.
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Not only this quinceañera
I was crazy about him,
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but all
the quinceañeras of the country.
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I went on tour with them,
with the Walker Brothers.
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It was an experience
both divine and stormy.
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I patted my head
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and I do not like it
give me pat on the head.
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People did not come to see you,
but to shout, and more and more loud,
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you could sing anything,
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they did not hear you
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We do not take advantage of that,
There were many people that I know.
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It was crazy,
we went on stage
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and only one or two minutes later
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the concert was over
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because they swooped,
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people pushed and overwhelmed,
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that was it.
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He told me that once in Dubl n
they gave a concert
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like The Walkers.
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At the exit they got into the car
and the public, the kids,
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They overturned the car
with the three inside.
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And added: "There was no
seatbelts".
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So they probably ended
crushed against the ceiling.
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He would rescue them from the Irish police.
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The Irish Police
he took care of us,
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He turned the van around.
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There were thousands of people hitting it.
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We were afraid,
We did not know if we would leave.
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It's for the money,
that's what pop is for ...
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Pop means "money."
Pop back reads "money".
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Pop backwards reads "pop".
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I do it for different reasons,
but not for money.
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Money does not matter to me,
It sounds ridiculous but it's true.
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I do it only
for being creative,
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I can make records,
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produce discs,
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compose music.
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I started composing the B faces
of the Walker Brothers
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because our m nagers
they said that it had to be edited,
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someone had to do it
and so I started.
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I left feeling more secure
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and also had
that enormous force at my disposal,
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my imagination could fly.
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He's very 60, he's so sixties,
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so much social realism
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like a movie
black and white of the 60
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that if it were British it would be
of social realism by Ken Loach,
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if it were American
It would be Tennesee Williams.
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I'll tell you how it was for me,
because I've seen Ealing comedies,
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to Margaret Rutherford ...
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What is the British nation?
When he wake up!
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Terry Thomas ...
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What a show!
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Bad!
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And those people.
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When I arrived here I thought:
"It's not going to be the same."
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We arrived in the harsh winter
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and those characters were around here,
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it was exactly
as in the movies, incredible.
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The winter was raw,
there was no room,
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only in closed circles
once you entered them.
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What people have forgotten
with time is that the sound
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of the Phillips discs
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said so much of England in the 60s
as "Day Tripper".
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Those discs
They fit with the landscape.
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There is that gothic and beautiful shine
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on the disks
of the Walker Brothers.
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This is interesting.
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The fabulous Walker Brothers
in Granada,
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I think he's in Tooting,
in London.
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The interesting thing is that
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when the tour started
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the Walker Brothers
they were the main group,
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but the tour lasted several months
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and Jimmy Hendrix,
that started in the last positions,
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I did not finish the tour officially
as head of list,
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but I do in reality.
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I was at the top.
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Here we are reaching the end
of his career, to be honest.
257
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They are beginning to decline.
258
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We all disintegrated
our way.
259
00:17:39,092 --> 00:17:42,129
I think it happened from
of the second album,
260
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Things got difficult.
261
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The sadness
of the Walker Brothers
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Scott ...
The public scares you
263
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Why I loved Scott
264
00:17:55,052 --> 00:17:57,043
"It bores me all this ..."
265
00:17:57,212 --> 00:17:58,884
The hell of the Walker Brothers
266
00:17:59,053 --> 00:18:01,646
Should Scott go?
267
00:18:01,852 --> 00:18:04,491
Tired of being a Walker Brother
268
00:18:04,692 --> 00:18:05,761
"Scott scares me"
269
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They separate
270
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Arranger of Scott solos
1967-70
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I had heard about Scott
and the Walker Brothers
272
00:18:32,772 --> 00:18:35,002
but I had not heard them.
273
00:18:35,972 --> 00:18:39,486
My name was Johnny Franz.
274
00:18:39,691 --> 00:18:43,207
It was the manager
of the Phillips record company.
275
00:18:43,372 --> 00:18:48,048
And he told me: "Scott Walker
will do some things alone "
276
00:18:48,292 --> 00:18:52,570
"and I want you to work with him".
277
00:18:52,732 --> 00:18:55,803
He arrived at Johnny's office
waiting to find me
278
00:18:56,611 --> 00:19:00,889
Johnny at the piano
and Scott singing or playing something,
279
00:19:01,291 --> 00:19:01,928
but no.
280
00:19:02,851 --> 00:19:05,320
I found a young man
sitting on the floor
281
00:19:05,572 --> 00:19:08,962
with legs extended,
with a guitar
282
00:19:09,212 --> 00:19:14,001
and sheets of paper written
for the carpet.
283
00:19:14,251 --> 00:19:17,961
And tearing the guitar
and humming a little.
284
00:19:18,172 --> 00:19:21,721
From time to time he stopped and said:
285
00:19:22,612 --> 00:19:25,649
"Here I hear Sibelius",
286
00:19:25,812 --> 00:19:28,962
or "here I hear Delius"
or "here I hear ..."
287
00:19:29,211 --> 00:19:34,922
All classical composers
of which he was so proud.
288
00:19:35,211 --> 00:19:38,568
And in a way he wanted
that sound in the arrangements.
289
00:19:38,732 --> 00:19:42,407
We thought it was different,
we did not realize
290
00:19:42,651 --> 00:19:48,045
that was
a kind of outpost,
291
00:19:48,212 --> 00:19:51,442
as the vanguard,
what was to come.
292
00:19:51,651 --> 00:19:54,643
From the earliest times,
293
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"Montague Terrace" was
294
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one of the compositions
more interesting
295
00:20:00,651 --> 00:20:02,721
And it's in the first album.
296
00:20:03,571 --> 00:20:08,201
I think that's where it starts
to perceive the potential
297
00:20:08,371 --> 00:20:12,411
Scott as a composer,
It's a special song.
298
00:20:25,331 --> 00:20:27,765
The lyrics were so ...
299
00:20:28,011 --> 00:20:31,970
The images
They were so strong and graphic ...
300
00:20:32,971 --> 00:20:36,168
Occasionally
I was surprised by some things:
301
00:20:36,371 --> 00:20:38,248
"Is that allowed?"
302
00:20:44,091 --> 00:20:47,719
Scott triumphs
303
00:20:56,451 --> 00:20:58,681
I should listen to these things more.
304
00:21:07,011 --> 00:21:09,445
Are you sure I did that?
305
00:21:09,851 --> 00:21:11,124
Of course.
306
00:21:13,010 --> 00:21:15,809
It's as if I heard it for the first time.
307
00:21:15,971 --> 00:21:17,802
It's been so long
308
00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:25,085
I do not think today
I could do better.
309
00:21:25,371 --> 00:21:26,724
Still in your head?
310
00:21:26,891 --> 00:21:30,088
"Montague Terrace"
still in your head?
311
00:21:30,291 --> 00:21:32,088
30 years have really passed
312
00:21:32,251 --> 00:21:34,286
since you heard that song?
313
00:21:34,930 --> 00:21:36,205
Yes.
314
00:21:36,371 --> 00:21:37,928
Since he left.
315
00:21:38,170 --> 00:21:42,527
Someone touches her
or listen to it on the radio
316
00:21:43,090 --> 00:21:43,840
and you remember.
317
00:21:44,010 --> 00:21:49,131
But even today when they send me
something digitally remastered
318
00:21:49,331 --> 00:21:53,721
who are taking out
so that I gave them my approval,
319
00:21:53,890 --> 00:21:56,689
It is very kind of you,
I can not do it.
320
00:21:58,131 --> 00:21:59,610
It's amazing.
321
00:22:03,651 --> 00:22:04,401
My God.
322
00:22:05,290 --> 00:22:06,722
Is not it incredible?
323
00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:09,242
The truth is, no, it's 1968.
324
00:22:10,010 --> 00:22:12,763
I used to go out with a girl
that had come out with l
325
00:22:15,090 --> 00:22:17,763
and he was passionate about his music.
326
00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:20,321
His records were still there in the house.
327
00:22:22,890 --> 00:22:28,123
She put them a lot
and although at first it pissed me off
328
00:22:28,410 --> 00:22:31,483
I ended up loving his voice.
329
00:22:31,651 --> 00:22:34,244
I thought:
"He has a sensational voice."
330
00:22:34,450 --> 00:22:37,123
They considered him
a melodic singer,
331
00:22:37,290 --> 00:22:38,722
but it was much more ...
332
00:22:39,049 --> 00:22:42,008
It was not like Perry Como,
333
00:22:42,330 --> 00:22:44,161
or Jack Jones or Matt Monro.
334
00:22:44,330 --> 00:22:45,479
It was more ...
335
00:22:45,970 --> 00:22:49,087
It was not Las Vegas type,
336
00:22:49,810 --> 00:22:51,847
but more Parisian or "Left Bank".
337
00:22:52,011 --> 00:22:55,639
In that television series,
I think of the BBC,
338
00:22:55,810 --> 00:23:00,439
surely they thought they had
hired a Jack Jones,
339
00:23:00,729 --> 00:23:01,799
with this sound.
340
00:23:05,890 --> 00:23:09,484
Scott appeared
with his damned ballads,
341
00:23:10,009 --> 00:23:11,965
Refusing to sing their successes.
342
00:23:12,209 --> 00:23:14,678
After six chapters
in 1969 ...
343
00:23:14,930 --> 00:23:16,079
Thank you,
344
00:23:16,250 --> 00:23:17,239
Goodnight.
345
00:23:17,410 --> 00:23:18,763
The BBC canceled the program.
346
00:23:18,930 --> 00:23:20,921
Last year I had the pleasure
to record some songs
347
00:23:21,210 --> 00:23:22,279
of the best singer-songwriter ...
348
00:23:22,450 --> 00:23:24,442
Only these images are preserved.
349
00:23:24,611 --> 00:23:25,759
Mr. Jacques Brel.
350
00:23:30,969 --> 00:23:31,924
Thank you.
351
00:23:32,289 --> 00:23:36,841
This song is about a story
of sadomasochistic love.
352
00:24:19,170 --> 00:24:23,321
It's a curious story,
but I'm going to tell it.
353
00:24:23,889 --> 00:24:26,357
We went to the inauguration
of the Playboy club.
354
00:24:26,849 --> 00:24:28,805
Welcome to the Playboy club.
355
00:24:29,089 --> 00:24:30,886
Your invitation, please?
356
00:24:31,169 --> 00:24:34,684
I was there with Gary, drinking.
We drank a lot those days.
357
00:24:34,889 --> 00:24:37,323
They opened on Park Lane,
they were all
358
00:24:37,689 --> 00:24:40,568
Soon we started
to flirt with the girls.
359
00:24:41,370 --> 00:24:43,247
I met a German girl
360
00:24:43,410 --> 00:24:46,526
and we went to his house.
361
00:24:48,128 --> 00:24:52,122
She drank a lot.
I think he drank Pernod.
362
00:24:52,329 --> 00:24:56,720
He put Jacques Brel,
Of course he translated it for me.
363
00:24:57,049 --> 00:24:58,402
All that night.
364
00:25:00,729 --> 00:25:03,038
He thought: "This is wonderful."
365
00:25:03,249 --> 00:25:06,446
And, an incredible coincidence,
the next week
366
00:25:06,769 --> 00:25:08,168
I went to see Andrew Oldham,
367
00:25:08,409 --> 00:25:12,198
I used to go up to chat with him
and drink Black Russians
368
00:25:12,410 --> 00:25:14,445
and those things in the afternoon.
369
00:25:14,929 --> 00:25:18,204
I said: "He heard a guy
incredible the other night ... "
370
00:25:18,488 --> 00:25:22,846
And he told me: "It's funny that you say it,
because I have a model "
371
00:25:23,129 --> 00:25:26,166
"from a certain Eric Blau
who has recorded from "
372
00:25:26,329 --> 00:25:27,921
"of their translated songs".
373
00:25:28,089 --> 00:25:32,162
I put them on
and he was a terrible uncle at the piano
374
00:25:32,448 --> 00:25:34,679
and I said: "I'll take it."
375
00:25:34,849 --> 00:25:37,238
And I took it and I took it running
376
00:25:37,449 --> 00:25:40,043
and I changed,
completely changed everything.
377
00:26:04,888 --> 00:26:07,642
Many people quote
to Brel among his influences
378
00:26:07,889 --> 00:26:11,085
but I think subliminally
they refer to Scott.
379
00:26:11,568 --> 00:26:17,439
Brel was flamenco,
let's say that he drooled when singing,
380
00:26:17,609 --> 00:26:22,124
I was sweating while Scott
he took his songs
381
00:26:22,368 --> 00:26:23,926
and the cant
382
00:26:24,088 --> 00:26:25,407
as a Greek god.
383
00:26:50,129 --> 00:26:53,837
Many people wander with Brel,
but the most interesting
384
00:26:54,048 --> 00:26:55,401
of his albums in Phillips
385
00:26:55,568 --> 00:26:56,967
they are the letters of Scott.
386
00:26:57,288 --> 00:27:01,646
I was emerging as a composer
and there are great songs.
387
00:27:18,608 --> 00:27:21,521
Four albums in three years.
388
00:27:21,849 --> 00:27:24,681
"Middle of the Road" standards,
of Bacharach and Mancini
389
00:27:24,848 --> 00:27:26,725
appear next to Brel songs
390
00:27:26,888 --> 00:27:28,799
about gonorrhea and death.
391
00:27:29,167 --> 00:27:31,762
But more and more
the albums are being populated
392
00:27:31,928 --> 00:27:33,646
of letters by Scott himself.
393
00:27:33,928 --> 00:27:37,603
The next song is mine.
It's a kind of reflection
394
00:27:37,768 --> 00:27:39,758
about my adolescence.
395
00:27:40,167 --> 00:27:42,476
It came from the "beatnik era" in the USA,
396
00:27:43,168 --> 00:27:44,886
They called her "Era Beatnik".
397
00:27:45,088 --> 00:27:48,524
I read Jack Kerouac
Indagu in progressive jazz
398
00:27:49,128 --> 00:27:52,677
they kicked me out of the schools
and I hitchhiked in the USA,
399
00:27:52,848 --> 00:27:54,919
I met wonderful people,
400
00:27:56,287 --> 00:27:59,518
ef meras relations
that were the best in my life
401
00:27:59,687 --> 00:28:01,006
and this song is about that.
402
00:28:01,847 --> 00:28:06,160
At first, almost unintentionally,
the albums were numbers one.
403
00:28:06,968 --> 00:28:09,721
In the third album,
the composition of Scott
404
00:28:09,888 --> 00:28:13,084
I had taken the lead
and in the second half of 1969,
405
00:28:13,287 --> 00:28:14,561
write in full
406
00:28:14,727 --> 00:28:17,845
what will be
his masterpiece of that period,
407
00:28:18,048 --> 00:28:19,322
"Scott 4"
408
00:28:44,967 --> 00:28:48,278
On the back cover of the LP
write only one appointment
409
00:28:48,448 --> 00:28:50,199
by Albert Camus ...
410
00:28:50,607 --> 00:28:53,485
"The work of man
it is but a slow road "
411
00:28:53,647 --> 00:28:56,445
"towards rediscovery
of the rodeos of art, "
412
00:28:56,687 --> 00:28:59,645
"Those two or three
magnificent and simple images "
413
00:28:59,807 --> 00:29:03,243
"in whose presence
He opened his heart for the first time. "
414
00:29:06,327 --> 00:29:09,286
Three years before the recording
of "Scott 4",
415
00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:12,246
Scott did
the following statements ...
416
00:29:12,528 --> 00:29:15,678
"I will die to get this out,
I'm serious".
417
00:29:16,127 --> 00:29:18,242
"I've never settled for less."
418
00:29:18,726 --> 00:29:21,036
"If it does not work, leave".
419
00:29:22,327 --> 00:29:25,399
Inexplicably "Scott 4"
He fell off the lists.
420
00:29:25,687 --> 00:29:28,884
Soon it was erased
and he fell into darkness.
421
00:29:30,287 --> 00:29:35,964
I do not understand how Scott 3
I got to number three
422
00:29:36,527 --> 00:29:39,758
and then Scott 4 almost disappeared
in just one year.
423
00:29:40,407 --> 00:29:43,684
They are similar discs,
there are no composition mistakes,
424
00:29:43,848 --> 00:29:46,281
Why the public
I did not understand it like that?
425
00:29:46,447 --> 00:29:47,322
I do not know.
426
00:29:47,486 --> 00:29:52,607
I have a theory,
If someone is interested,
427
00:29:52,847 --> 00:29:55,407
it was written mostly in 3 by 4
428
00:29:57,607 --> 00:30:02,158
and I think he did not hook anyone.
429
00:30:02,406 --> 00:30:05,126
When the fourth album appeared
people thought:
430
00:30:05,287 --> 00:30:07,198
"This one I jump."
431
00:30:07,687 --> 00:30:11,077
When I work on something,
even today,
432
00:30:11,366 --> 00:30:14,404
I always round my head
433
00:30:15,487 --> 00:30:20,196
the idea that people
you will not like it,
434
00:30:21,446 --> 00:30:25,235
so I'm not disappointed,
I'm disappointed more if I do not get something out.
435
00:30:25,407 --> 00:30:29,241
Scott was a little displaced
436
00:30:29,687 --> 00:30:33,441
for the new wave
of British rock bands
437
00:30:33,607 --> 00:30:35,358
of the late 60s,
438
00:30:35,527 --> 00:30:38,802
early 70's
King Crimson appeared,
439
00:30:38,966 --> 00:30:40,524
Emerson, Lake and Palmer,
440
00:30:41,406 --> 00:30:42,475
And it is...
441
00:30:45,286 --> 00:30:45,923
Perd n
442
00:30:46,086 --> 00:30:48,237
All the world
443
00:30:50,047 --> 00:30:52,879
I was losing my ass
with that hippy garbage,
444
00:30:53,046 --> 00:30:54,445
because peace and love
445
00:30:55,526 --> 00:30:57,722
it's an ideal, not a fashion
446
00:30:58,167 --> 00:31:00,397
and that's why it disappeared very soon.
447
00:31:00,687 --> 00:31:04,362
When everyone
I was going to San Francisco,
448
00:31:05,726 --> 00:31:09,321
He delved
in the dark psyche of man.
449
00:31:12,486 --> 00:31:14,795
Tour of Scott ...
the audience listens quietly
450
00:31:14,966 --> 00:31:17,924
Scott Walker hides
in a world of pessimism
451
00:31:18,086 --> 00:31:21,523
"I'm one of those people
that is never happy with anything "
452
00:31:22,366 --> 00:31:24,721
Scott ...
"Drunk me?"
453
00:31:27,166 --> 00:31:31,399
"I want to be alone",
says Scott
454
00:31:33,806 --> 00:31:37,685
"I want to get away from pop"
455
00:31:45,166 --> 00:31:47,999
They say it's not gold
everything that glitters
456
00:31:48,166 --> 00:31:50,282
Before his fame fades
457
00:31:50,446 --> 00:31:52,597
a hard fact we want to sentence ...
458
00:31:52,767 --> 00:31:55,280
They say that love and hate
They are very close.
459
00:31:55,446 --> 00:31:57,721
He does not think
in the problems of his fans
460
00:31:57,886 --> 00:31:59,841
as long as he can live his life.
461
00:32:00,005 --> 00:32:01,802
He has no time to lose.
462
00:32:01,966 --> 00:32:03,319
It has not reappeared.
463
00:32:03,486 --> 00:32:06,159
It will be that the king
Have you lost your crown?
464
00:32:06,326 --> 00:32:07,964
Has the legend been lying down?
465
00:32:08,126 --> 00:32:10,878
Walker, walker
of long routes,
466
00:32:11,045 --> 00:32:13,162
vid talker of Brel and Sartre,
467
00:32:13,326 --> 00:32:16,523
do not underestimate our strength,
the end is near,
468
00:32:16,686 --> 00:32:18,165
You are out of the way.
469
00:32:18,326 --> 00:32:20,965
Your reign is over,
adi s, Scott!
470
00:32:21,126 --> 00:32:23,117
Afr ntalo, t o, it's over.
471
00:32:23,286 --> 00:32:24,925
14 former Scott Walker fans.
472
00:32:26,485 --> 00:32:30,239
Sometimes I asked myself:
"Why was he gone?"
473
00:32:30,565 --> 00:32:34,080
It seemed to me
that underlies something good.
474
00:32:34,245 --> 00:32:37,363
John Franz was a good friend of mine
and I said:
475
00:32:37,726 --> 00:32:41,162
"Look, give them
the couple of albums they want "
476
00:32:42,645 --> 00:32:45,763
"and later we'll take another one".
477
00:32:45,926 --> 00:32:49,362
That's what he said.
Of course we did not.
478
00:32:49,846 --> 00:32:54,043
So it was getting worse,
479
00:32:54,445 --> 00:32:56,596
sinking,
480
00:32:56,806 --> 00:32:59,194
and the same thing happened on CBS.
481
00:33:01,325 --> 00:33:02,997
CBS gave me to understand that there
482
00:33:03,165 --> 00:33:05,315
I would write again,
but it was not like that either.
483
00:33:05,485 --> 00:33:11,721
They wanted to beat me to a producer,
very good people, but ...
484
00:33:15,405 --> 00:33:19,194
So I finished that,
I was just concluding contracts.
485
00:33:19,886 --> 00:33:22,558
The loss of support
of public and discogrÃfica
486
00:33:22,725 --> 00:33:25,193
provoked a series
of albums without inspiration
487
00:33:25,365 --> 00:33:28,676
that to day of today
it does not allow them to be reissued.
488
00:33:28,926 --> 00:33:31,485
Scott Walker singer
it still existed,
489
00:33:31,885 --> 00:33:35,321
complying with the formalities
and singing songs of others.
490
00:33:35,525 --> 00:33:38,597
Scott Walker writer,
He went into exile.
491
00:33:39,045 --> 00:33:40,240
In 1974 75
492
00:33:40,406 --> 00:33:42,158
Scott was not
493
00:33:42,326 --> 00:33:43,202
old fashioned
494
00:33:43,366 --> 00:33:47,040
I simply was not
in anyone's mind.
495
00:33:47,205 --> 00:33:51,596
The important thing was the cach , they said:
"My mother listens to Scott Walker."
496
00:33:53,605 --> 00:33:57,803
In 1975 the Walker Brothers
they meet and record a disc.
497
00:33:58,765 --> 00:34:01,996
Without regrets, without making a box,
without expectations
498
00:34:04,885 --> 00:34:07,843
Far from the gaudy fans
and the celebrity
499
00:34:08,045 --> 00:34:10,605
the forgotten legends
they place their last single
500
00:34:10,845 --> 00:34:13,883
in the British top-ten
with Tom Rush's song
501
00:34:14,046 --> 00:34:15,398
"No regrets."
502
00:34:43,444 --> 00:34:45,276
The charms "Middle of the Road"
503
00:34:45,445 --> 00:34:47,481
they do very little
for relaunching his career,
504
00:34:47,805 --> 00:34:50,682
but without his success,
what happened after
505
00:34:50,844 --> 00:34:52,516
It would have been impossible.
506
00:34:53,044 --> 00:34:55,434
With his record label
about to close
507
00:34:55,605 --> 00:34:58,722
the Walker Brothers
They have one last chance.
508
00:35:01,125 --> 00:35:03,798
In 1978, with punk on the waves
509
00:35:03,965 --> 00:35:06,320
and the "Winter of Discontent"
on the horizon
510
00:35:06,485 --> 00:35:10,272
they begin to record what would be
his last album ... "Nite Flights".
511
00:35:23,364 --> 00:35:25,434
I read what you told the boys:
512
00:35:25,644 --> 00:35:27,317
"Be self-indulgent,"
513
00:35:27,485 --> 00:35:28,759
"It's the last chance."
514
00:35:28,965 --> 00:35:33,117
They were songs
What have you expected to write?
515
00:35:33,725 --> 00:35:36,362
Or was the date,
Something in the environment?
516
00:35:36,523 --> 00:35:39,755
It was something in the environment
but it was a moment
517
00:35:40,004 --> 00:35:43,553
that I really said that,
exactly what you said,
518
00:35:44,004 --> 00:35:47,519
"the company is closing,
the company is closed, "
519
00:35:49,405 --> 00:35:51,794
"Let's go there,
Write what you want. "
520
00:35:52,644 --> 00:35:57,513
Then everything came back to me,
I started thinking:
521
00:35:57,684 --> 00:36:00,563
"I can write.
I can do it again. "
522
00:36:03,684 --> 00:36:06,994
Baby, it's slow.
523
00:36:10,684 --> 00:36:14,518
When the lights go down
524
00:36:18,324 --> 00:36:22,284
There is nothing to do, no.
525
00:36:32,124 --> 00:36:38,472
Tonight is instructing
through the Holy Spirit,
526
00:36:38,924 --> 00:36:41,721
through the dark waterfalls,
527
00:36:42,083 --> 00:36:45,838
screaming ... "Mambos,"
528
00:36:46,004 --> 00:36:52,557
"kill me, kill me, kill me."
529
00:36:55,565 --> 00:36:58,794
If I open the door abruptly
530
00:36:59,323 --> 00:37:02,156
you will die in your dreams.
531
00:37:02,323 --> 00:37:05,600
If I open the door abruptly,
532
00:37:06,444 --> 00:37:09,004
I open the door abruptly ...
533
00:37:09,324 --> 00:37:10,996
I will shudder,
534
00:37:11,164 --> 00:37:12,835
I will shudder
535
00:37:13,163 --> 00:37:16,952
I will shudder.
536
00:37:31,043 --> 00:37:36,675
The first success I assimilated
consciously it was Nite Flights.
537
00:37:36,843 --> 00:37:43,158
With the first four songs
from Nite Flights arrived in Montreux
538
00:37:43,323 --> 00:37:47,282
where I was working with David
at that time, saying:
539
00:37:47,443 --> 00:37:52,642
"God, you have to listen to this,
It has a lot of future, really. "
540
00:37:52,843 --> 00:37:55,960
There was a union,
it was a kind of marriage
541
00:37:56,123 --> 00:37:59,832
between a sensitivity
very different from pop music,
542
00:38:00,003 --> 00:38:03,120
what came
of orchestral music
543
00:38:03,563 --> 00:38:06,555
or of experimental music
or electronic,
544
00:38:06,763 --> 00:38:10,279
and the idea of pop music,
although the result
545
00:38:10,444 --> 00:38:12,912
It's a far cry from pop music.
546
00:38:13,084 --> 00:38:17,917
What I really like
of its letters is the form
547
00:38:18,082 --> 00:38:21,155
in which you can draw a picture
with what he says.
548
00:38:21,363 --> 00:38:25,914
I have no idea what he sings about,
I've never bothered to find out
549
00:38:26,083 --> 00:38:27,232
And I do not care.
550
00:38:27,403 --> 00:38:32,431
I like to catch the songs
who sings and do things with them,
551
00:38:32,603 --> 00:38:36,198
I interpret them my way
entering the images.
552
00:38:52,883 --> 00:38:56,114
I have to say
It's humiliating to hear this.
553
00:38:57,243 --> 00:38:58,198
Really.
554
00:38:58,723 --> 00:39:01,191
You think:
"We have not advanced anything."
555
00:39:02,283 --> 00:39:06,276
I keep listening to groups
that sound like Roxy Music
556
00:39:06,443 --> 00:39:09,560
and Talking Heads.
They have not gone any further,
557
00:39:09,803 --> 00:39:11,475
It's a tragedy, really.
558
00:39:13,242 --> 00:39:16,792
I was small to remember,
he knew his songs
559
00:39:16,963 --> 00:39:20,511
but I think I knew,
like many people, Scott
560
00:39:20,682 --> 00:39:22,718
through punk,
curiously.
561
00:39:22,882 --> 00:39:27,673
Because the punk generation,
Julian Cope or Echo and the Bunnymen,
562
00:39:27,843 --> 00:39:30,403
they worshiped Scott Walker,
so we think:
563
00:39:30,563 --> 00:39:33,077
"Who is this guy?
Why do you worship him? "
564
00:39:33,243 --> 00:39:37,714
"Why this old Californian
Do our punk heroes revere it? "
565
00:39:37,923 --> 00:39:40,959
The first disc
that we got my friends and me
566
00:39:41,122 --> 00:39:45,957
It was a compilation by Julian Cope,
of your favorite Scott songs.
567
00:39:46,122 --> 00:39:47,033
Everything made sense.
568
00:39:47,283 --> 00:39:50,241
It had a totally gray cover,
enigmatic,
569
00:39:50,403 --> 00:39:52,632
a completely gray card.
570
00:39:52,802 --> 00:39:55,521
It was Scott's songs
favorite of Julian.
571
00:39:56,442 --> 00:39:58,877
Julian Cope was
in the Liverpool group
572
00:39:59,043 --> 00:40:03,480
The Teardrop Explodes and is now
a prolific composer and singer
573
00:40:03,643 --> 00:40:06,872
and expert in stone circles
European
574
00:40:07,241 --> 00:40:09,597
Since he does not like to go out
before the cameras
575
00:40:09,802 --> 00:40:12,362
he sent us a letter explaining ...
576
00:40:12,642 --> 00:40:16,078
"My reason for taking out
"Fire escape in the sky"
577
00:40:16,242 --> 00:40:20,282
"It was that he had bought
his LP in Liverpool and Birmingham "
578
00:40:20,483 --> 00:40:23,838
"and he had given them to friends
and whoever wants to hear them. "
579
00:40:24,042 --> 00:40:25,953
"I felt that Scott was lost"
580
00:40:26,122 --> 00:40:29,114
"as far as culture was concerned
by including "
581
00:40:29,282 --> 00:40:32,355
"That slop" Middle of the Road "
until "Scott 3".
582
00:40:32,523 --> 00:40:35,719
"My gray post-punk design
without photographs "
583
00:40:36,002 --> 00:40:38,640
"it allowed people to enjoy
Scott without the idea "
584
00:40:38,801 --> 00:40:42,351
"to be buying an icon
"Middle of the Road" of the 60 ".
585
00:40:42,522 --> 00:40:44,797
"I'm glad that they still
There are those who remember "
586
00:40:44,962 --> 00:40:49,319
"that the" LP Fire escape in the sky "
the flood began. "
587
00:40:49,642 --> 00:40:51,439
Let's be chronological.
588
00:40:55,362 --> 00:40:57,956
Let's listen
"Always coming back to you"
589
00:40:58,122 --> 00:40:59,396
of Scott.
590
00:41:05,962 --> 00:41:11,240
What really drove me to him
was that someone recorded a cassette
591
00:41:11,401 --> 00:41:15,714
of his solo albums,
that were not available.
592
00:41:15,922 --> 00:41:21,235
It must have been in the mid-1980s
and I had a fever,
593
00:41:22,322 --> 00:41:27,236
I was in bed complaining
and it was very funny because ...
594
00:41:27,521 --> 00:41:30,319
Do you know when you are a little feverish?
595
00:41:30,481 --> 00:41:33,598
He thought: "Quiz
I imagined that music. "
596
00:41:33,841 --> 00:41:36,879
"I can not believe
that really exists. "
597
00:41:55,161 --> 00:41:59,598
Listen to Scott Walter
and his English nationality adopted
598
00:41:59,961 --> 00:42:03,920
assumed a very strong connection
between your music and our lives
599
00:42:04,081 --> 00:42:07,757
and our sense of uprooting
600
00:42:09,602 --> 00:42:11,115
and melancholy.
601
00:42:11,282 --> 00:42:16,719
Pop music was not what it seemed
before listening to him.
602
00:42:17,321 --> 00:42:21,234
Listen to Scott Walter
It meant a kind of zero year.
603
00:42:28,201 --> 00:42:30,032
You have beated me.
That's it!
604
00:42:30,601 --> 00:42:33,513
What artist,
if it's not corny progressive rock,
605
00:42:33,681 --> 00:42:37,674
would start a disc
with a huge fucking gong?
606
00:43:07,441 --> 00:43:09,796
Can I also put "Rosemary"?
607
00:43:13,802 --> 00:43:16,031
There is a part in which it says:
608
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,951
"Ol a a miracles".
609
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,838
It's about a traveler
whom she has kissed
610
00:43:23,001 --> 00:43:25,913
and it smells like miracles
and sighs colored glass.
611
00:43:26,121 --> 00:43:28,555
I think the images
They are incredible,
612
00:43:30,481 --> 00:43:31,630
is beautiful.
613
00:43:38,281 --> 00:43:39,873
Pretty psychedelic.
614
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,237
They said we were "Scott Walter."
615
00:43:56,481 --> 00:43:58,551
- For example, with "Creep".
- Yes.
616
00:44:00,161 --> 00:44:02,595
When we record it
the title was yours
617
00:44:02,801 --> 00:44:05,712
and the producer
he told us that it was a pity
618
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,236
and maybe Scott
let us take it out
619
00:44:08,601 --> 00:44:12,354
and his music became
in a reference for us.
620
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,717
The bass is extraordinary.
621
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,952
That's fun, perdon.
622
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,120
Dragons, what a disgust.
623
00:44:33,601 --> 00:44:35,353
The strings are very good.
624
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:43,840
I wanted him to influence
in the last album of The Smiths.
625
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,436
Not on the ropes,
but in the idea
626
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,195
of beauty
inside the melancholy.
627
00:45:09,759 --> 00:45:16,074
What projects a shadow
it is the atonal background,
628
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,190
which is quite alienating.
629
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:27,076
It's almost existentialist,
remember the darkness
630
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:29,231
that underlies romanticism.
631
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,270
That's.
He always does it.
632
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,355
The voice, the first time I heard it
an old boyfriend told me:
633
00:45:55,521 --> 00:45:59,717
"Listen, this is the one
Scott Walter. "
634
00:46:01,999 --> 00:46:08,473
He put this song, "Boy child",
and I stayed completely ...
635
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,276
It's authentic music
and I have to try to do
636
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,517
something that at least entertains
being so good.
637
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,591
Despite the low sales,
Scott's contribution
638
00:46:25,759 --> 00:46:28,910
to "Nite Flights"
Generated enough interest
639
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:32,992
to make Virgin Records
I made him an offer in 1979,
640
00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:36,993
six years before
that he recorded his next album.
641
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,068
It was one of the deals
more shameful
642
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:41,434
I've seen jam s.
643
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,191
I work in a business that exploits
the artist and the consumer
644
00:46:46,359 --> 00:46:47,553
more or less equally.
645
00:46:47,799 --> 00:46:52,350
It was an offer for the 12th album
and I calculated, based
646
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:57,195
in the pace of Scott's work
and in what I could produce
647
00:46:57,399 --> 00:47:00,835
that he would probably have
About 200 years
648
00:47:00,999 --> 00:47:02,955
for when I released the 12th album.
649
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:08,791
I think he went to New Forest
and rent a house
650
00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:13,673
and one day he called me and said:
"I have the songs."
651
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,676
"I'm ready".
652
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,115
I was at the top,
he was still at the peak of his strength
653
00:47:18,278 --> 00:47:21,032
having left a silence
654
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:25,238
six years among his albums.
655
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:28,989
The vision that I had aimed
in only four songs
656
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:31,912
at Nite Flights
It appeared in all its splendor.
657
00:47:55,799 --> 00:47:58,791
You have spent a lot of time alone
in these six years?
658
00:47:58,959 --> 00:48:00,950
Interview on the radio
with Alan Bands
659
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:02,634
Yes, quite.
660
00:48:03,398 --> 00:48:06,516
I've been six years
working on what I call
661
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:09,273
a silence
that could reach me
662
00:48:09,439 --> 00:48:11,236
without me forcing it.
663
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:14,671
It meant a lot to me
that flowed to me
664
00:48:14,839 --> 00:48:18,912
without struggling to get out,
so I looked for an adequate climate
665
00:48:19,718 --> 00:48:23,154
and time and perception
They arrived at the same time.
666
00:48:23,918 --> 00:48:28,117
I think it's a kind
of kaleidoscopic process.
667
00:48:28,479 --> 00:48:31,915
I do not know, I do not like it very much
talk about the process
668
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:34,275
because I do not understand it at all.
669
00:48:34,439 --> 00:48:37,476
When this album came
I left m .
670
00:48:37,759 --> 00:48:41,671
I'm a bit superstitious
so I do not talk much about it.
671
00:49:02,999 --> 00:49:05,229
I met him in a hotel
in Shepherd's Bush.
672
00:49:06,957 --> 00:49:09,347
"It will be the one with the baseball cap,"
I was told,
673
00:49:09,598 --> 00:49:13,591
sitting in that restaurant
of dim light,
674
00:49:13,838 --> 00:49:15,351
chewing a match.
675
00:49:15,598 --> 00:49:19,147
I was a little surprised
for the amount of mystery
676
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:22,795
that there appeared
and as I explained before,
677
00:49:23,518 --> 00:49:27,909
he had reached the first disc
without listening to any model
678
00:49:28,078 --> 00:49:29,113
because there was not.
679
00:49:30,278 --> 00:49:32,713
I knew that I would not go out
a conventional album
680
00:49:32,879 --> 00:49:36,314
because its elaboration
it had not been anything conventional.
681
00:49:50,558 --> 00:49:51,786
I was baffled,
682
00:49:51,959 --> 00:49:56,315
"Why do you want me?"
I was not known as a musician.
683
00:49:56,598 --> 00:50:00,476
The first thing he said was:
"This is not a funk session."
684
00:50:01,837 --> 00:50:05,308
"I know your work,
I think of clouds, "
685
00:50:06,358 --> 00:50:08,588
"clouds of saxophone,"
686
00:50:11,597 --> 00:50:14,510
"And I think mostly about Ligeti."
687
00:50:14,758 --> 00:50:16,874
So we were drinking Chablis
688
00:50:17,038 --> 00:50:20,348
a good Chablis
at room temperature,
689
00:50:21,678 --> 00:50:24,557
very good,
Two bottles pretty fast.
690
00:50:24,759 --> 00:50:29,785
While, they mounted the amplifier
in the room where I played,
691
00:50:29,997 --> 00:50:32,591
the guitarist
I was in the control room.
692
00:50:33,477 --> 00:50:35,628
I had never seen anything like it before.
693
00:50:35,838 --> 00:50:40,434
During the recording to the guitarist
he heard him play the melody
694
00:50:40,598 --> 00:50:43,430
and Scott went crazy:
"Who's playing?"
695
00:50:43,597 --> 00:50:47,511
"Stop touching!
I do not want to hear any melody "
696
00:50:49,038 --> 00:50:51,108
"and I do not want anyone to hear it."
697
00:50:51,278 --> 00:50:56,590
I kept Pete's stuff until the end.
When you tell people
698
00:50:58,557 --> 00:51:01,993
these banal things
they happen again.
699
00:51:02,157 --> 00:51:05,672
Someone takes a letter
or laugh at this or that
700
00:51:05,837 --> 00:51:08,671
and suddenly the song
is in another place,
701
00:51:08,838 --> 00:51:11,033
not where he should be.
702
00:51:11,278 --> 00:51:14,826
During all the process
for recording the album
703
00:51:15,037 --> 00:51:18,713
the melody was a secret
well kept.
704
00:51:19,758 --> 00:51:23,796
As a producer
or co-producer, if you want,
705
00:51:23,957 --> 00:51:26,551
it is missed enough
when you work.
706
00:51:26,717 --> 00:51:29,948
It keeps all the elements
much more scattered.
707
00:51:30,157 --> 00:51:32,876
None of them
stands out above the rest,
708
00:51:33,917 --> 00:51:35,748
what he did not want in any case.
709
00:51:36,157 --> 00:51:38,546
I'm not making fashion records.
710
00:51:38,717 --> 00:51:41,551
You just pulled out
a solo album,
711
00:51:42,078 --> 00:51:44,194
Climate of Hunter.
712
00:51:44,518 --> 00:51:48,145
I hate to use the word "come back"
but, why have you chosen
713
00:51:48,316 --> 00:51:50,511
this concrete moment to return?
714
00:51:50,676 --> 00:51:54,386
Go back?
I also do not use the word "come back",
715
00:51:54,557 --> 00:51:56,434
I already think about the next album.
716
00:51:56,637 --> 00:51:59,595
Are you happy doing this?
You do not feel like
717
00:51:59,757 --> 00:52:01,509
to sing again, you alone?
718
00:52:01,797 --> 00:52:04,834
No, I'm not a singer
of "I get up and sing".
719
00:52:05,557 --> 00:52:08,674
I sing when they give
the right circumstances
720
00:52:08,837 --> 00:52:09,826
and more now.
721
00:52:10,037 --> 00:52:13,508
You think that with this album
you will have the same reception
722
00:52:13,678 --> 00:52:15,349
What with the Walker Brothers?
723
00:52:15,557 --> 00:52:17,786
No. I hope not.
724
00:52:17,996 --> 00:52:19,668
We have the new single
725
00:52:19,836 --> 00:52:22,145
and the Track 3 video,
lets go see it.
726
00:53:00,797 --> 00:53:04,676
Before,
I used to write discs very fast.
727
00:53:06,757 --> 00:53:12,228
I think he wrote
my fourth disc
728
00:53:12,996 --> 00:53:14,065
in two months.
729
00:53:14,476 --> 00:53:15,306
I think.
730
00:53:15,516 --> 00:53:17,712
And that is very fast.
731
00:53:18,197 --> 00:53:22,155
I can be wrong,
but I think it was like that.
732
00:53:22,596 --> 00:53:24,109
That would not happen today.
733
00:53:24,396 --> 00:53:26,273
There is always a rush,
734
00:53:26,596 --> 00:53:29,555
one goes crazy,
735
00:53:29,917 --> 00:53:35,230
but you can not force it
because it does not work out
736
00:53:35,437 --> 00:53:40,066
It has to be exactly what it is
and you have to sit down to do it.
737
00:53:42,276 --> 00:53:45,791
And they can spend years and nothing.
738
00:53:46,036 --> 00:53:49,312
It's hard for everyone,
Maybe I'm slow,
739
00:53:50,357 --> 00:53:53,473
but for me it is very difficult.
740
00:53:54,396 --> 00:53:57,433
I did not think immediately
that the next year
741
00:53:57,596 --> 00:53:59,029
we would do the second part.
742
00:53:59,236 --> 00:54:01,626
I also did not expect to wait 10 years.
743
00:54:01,997 --> 00:54:06,114
Our goal was very clear:
Know our dolos.
744
00:54:06,276 --> 00:54:08,312
We start from magazine
for fans in the 80s
745
00:54:08,476 --> 00:54:11,786
sending letters
to the people we admired.
746
00:54:11,956 --> 00:54:14,834
Each month, each publication,
I sent him a letter
747
00:54:14,996 --> 00:54:16,065
to the manager of Scott.
748
00:54:16,236 --> 00:54:20,229
He had been at least 10 years
section and without talking to the press.
749
00:54:20,396 --> 00:54:23,195
It was a hermitage
and therefore a legend.
750
00:54:23,397 --> 00:54:28,072
It was a fantasy, a myth,
something that almost did not exist.
751
00:54:28,236 --> 00:54:30,749
And after five years
writing them non-stop,
752
00:54:30,915 --> 00:54:32,234
They said yes.
753
00:54:32,475 --> 00:54:34,114
Four days before we said:
754
00:54:34,276 --> 00:54:36,744
"It can not be, it is impossible".
755
00:54:36,916 --> 00:54:37,985
But we met him.
756
00:54:38,196 --> 00:54:42,347
The first question was: "After
the failure of your last album, "
757
00:54:42,555 --> 00:54:46,913
"What have you done in these 10 years?"
And he replied: "Live."
758
00:54:47,156 --> 00:54:48,225
"That is all".
759
00:54:48,796 --> 00:54:50,468
It is a good answer.
760
00:54:51,236 --> 00:54:52,908
Work in contracting.
761
00:54:53,076 --> 00:54:55,796
The first time I saw
I wanted to hire Scott.
762
00:54:55,957 --> 00:54:59,027
I had heard he was thinking
go back to the studio.
763
00:54:59,195 --> 00:55:01,629
He thought: "It's worth discovering."
764
00:55:01,875 --> 00:55:04,389
It was the interview
more serene and sensible
765
00:55:04,555 --> 00:55:06,035
of the world.
Scott said:
766
00:55:06,196 --> 00:55:10,269
"The only thing I will not do is sit down
to record songs like churros. "
767
00:55:10,476 --> 00:55:11,670
Fantastic
768
00:55:11,836 --> 00:55:15,350
The Pet Shop Boys had achieved
a success with Dusty Springfield
769
00:55:15,515 --> 00:55:18,394
and I had the language
to explain to my bosses
770
00:55:18,556 --> 00:55:20,592
the meaning of all this.
771
00:55:20,796 --> 00:55:25,346
The disc in perspective was Tilt,
that came out two or three years later.
772
00:55:26,835 --> 00:55:28,314
And I am very happy.
773
00:55:28,875 --> 00:55:31,264
I would not have had
explanation for se.
774
00:55:31,515 --> 00:55:36,066
I know part of the recording
of Tilt did it in Rak.
775
00:55:36,675 --> 00:55:38,826
We did something there.
776
00:55:38,996 --> 00:55:41,954
It was the set
of more strange instruments ...
777
00:55:42,156 --> 00:55:45,227
How will you make a record
with timbales?
778
00:55:45,395 --> 00:55:46,544
Orchestral percussion
779
00:55:46,715 --> 00:55:48,228
Yes, it was very strange.
780
00:55:48,475 --> 00:55:53,230
Scott Walker or his ghost wandered
for the whole record.
781
00:55:53,595 --> 00:55:56,905
Do not cross Nigel in the first
recording session
782
00:55:59,355 --> 00:56:05,703
from OK Computer with Scott Walker
on a bike in South London?
783
00:56:05,915 --> 00:56:08,793
I was excited
only to see Scott Walker.
784
00:56:12,956 --> 00:56:16,027
They told me that the album
it was finished
785
00:56:18,674 --> 00:56:22,065
and what awaited me in Metropolis
786
00:56:22,475 --> 00:56:25,592
one night that week.
787
00:56:26,115 --> 00:56:27,787
When I crossed the door
788
00:56:29,155 --> 00:56:31,430
Pete came to meet me
789
00:56:32,835 --> 00:56:35,554
and I wanted to ask
what was it like,
790
00:56:35,715 --> 00:56:38,866
but he told me:
"Shut up, Scott is up watching."
791
00:56:39,355 --> 00:56:43,554
I looked up and was
on the balcony looking down.
792
00:56:43,996 --> 00:56:48,624
And obviously I was very nervous
for putting it for the first time.
793
00:56:49,474 --> 00:56:52,910
It started to sound at full volume.
794
00:57:18,155 --> 00:57:20,304
I had no idea
what to do with that.
795
00:57:20,514 --> 00:57:22,266
I turned around and said:
796
00:57:22,874 --> 00:57:26,504
"We could put it in speakers
smaller and lower? "
797
00:57:27,075 --> 00:57:31,193
"Because it's costing me
A little assimilate. "
798
00:57:32,075 --> 00:57:33,349
I agreed.
799
00:57:34,035 --> 00:57:36,868
But Scott stopped him and said:
"Dave,"
800
00:57:40,634 --> 00:57:44,070
"if you dont mind
I prefer to hear it in the big ones, "
801
00:57:47,595 --> 00:57:52,224
"Because when I finish an album,
I have no intention "
802
00:57:52,394 --> 00:57:56,387
"to hear him again.
So I would like to remember it like that. "
803
00:58:32,155 --> 00:58:36,909
I have not heard again Tilt
from the minute I finished it.
804
00:58:37,074 --> 00:58:39,029
I have not heard it again.
805
00:58:39,193 --> 00:58:42,231
It happened all those years
composing it,
806
00:58:42,394 --> 00:58:45,192
I produced it, I sang it,
I made the mixtures,
807
00:58:45,354 --> 00:58:48,744
I produced it with my friend Pete,
I sang it and made the mixes.
808
00:58:49,074 --> 00:58:52,431
I do not want
never listen to him again
809
00:58:52,595 --> 00:58:54,028
It's a nightmare.
810
00:58:54,195 --> 00:58:54,990
They are agon a.
811
00:58:55,714 --> 00:58:57,909
He believes,
although I disagree with that,
812
00:58:58,074 --> 00:59:00,871
what to transmit
a strong emotion in music
813
00:59:01,033 --> 00:59:02,989
You have to feel it when doing it.
814
00:59:03,154 --> 00:59:06,510
That is not true or people
that touches Bruchner and Mahler
815
00:59:06,674 --> 00:59:09,234
at night
I would be lost with 30 years.
816
00:59:09,634 --> 00:59:12,511
Three or four hours in the studio,
and he himself is
817
00:59:12,673 --> 00:59:15,029
for living it
with such intensity and emotion.
818
00:59:15,234 --> 00:59:18,943
Compose the strings for Scott
I find it very annoying,
819
00:59:19,514 --> 00:59:22,790
because you have to keep a note
16 measures
820
00:59:23,034 --> 00:59:29,871
and keep doing it
until getting the emotion.
821
00:59:30,273 --> 00:59:34,346
But in the case of the musicians
of rope is irritation.
822
00:59:34,513 --> 00:59:37,904
One shared the recording
with a slow extraction of teeth.
823
00:59:38,194 --> 00:59:41,903
It puts musicians in trouble
because he wants that intensity.
824
00:59:42,074 --> 00:59:43,825
I would not dare to say
825
00:59:44,073 --> 00:59:48,067
that sadism
underlies the argument
826
00:59:48,234 --> 00:59:51,988
of music,
because I do not think it's that simple
827
00:59:52,274 --> 00:59:56,107
But there are this type
of abstract observations
828
00:59:56,273 --> 01:00:00,107
of people in situations
very uncomfortable.
829
01:00:00,953 --> 01:00:03,513
Never forget
that when he heard Tilt
830
01:00:03,673 --> 01:00:06,665
I almost had a heart attack:
831
01:00:07,313 --> 01:00:09,384
"What is this?"
832
01:00:10,194 --> 01:00:13,664
And I realized that it was
the first album of the 21st century.
833
01:00:31,393 --> 01:00:35,784
Majestic metal music ...
Scott Walker's first album
834
01:00:35,953 --> 01:00:37,625
in 11 years it's a bombshell.
835
01:00:37,833 --> 01:00:39,744
It was an incredible album,
836
01:00:39,953 --> 01:00:44,027
it did not make any sense,
It was fantastic to get lost,
837
01:00:44,194 --> 01:00:45,752
few discs give that,
838
01:00:46,113 --> 01:00:50,469
they make you lose you completely
and have nothing to hold on to
839
01:00:50,632 --> 01:00:54,262
because everything is new
and everything is upside down.
840
01:01:12,793 --> 01:01:17,344
Listen to the guitar.
There is something strange about the guitar.
841
01:01:18,872 --> 01:01:21,022
The chord you hear
842
01:01:23,713 --> 01:01:26,352
is disturbed by something else.
843
01:01:27,433 --> 01:01:33,985
I was wondering why
the guitar sounded at the same time
844
01:01:34,152 --> 01:01:36,189
tuned and out of tune.
845
01:01:36,433 --> 01:01:38,230
How could it be?
846
01:01:38,433 --> 01:01:43,142
I tried different things,
thinking that maybe it was an effect,
847
01:01:43,352 --> 01:01:44,387
but I did not find it.
848
01:01:44,552 --> 01:01:49,422
And I thought: "It's a great idea."
It's a detail, but it changes everything.
849
01:01:50,032 --> 01:01:56,028
Goes in search of the border
between chords and dissonances.
850
01:01:56,273 --> 01:02:00,061
Everyone can play a chord
and a dissonance,
851
01:02:01,273 --> 01:02:03,992
but he takes a chord like this
852
01:02:07,033 --> 01:02:08,625
and he keeps it 16 bars.
853
01:02:08,833 --> 01:02:11,904
It's halfway there
between chord and dissonance,
854
01:02:16,032 --> 01:02:17,910
It contains four chords,
855
01:02:18,153 --> 01:02:22,748
but when you touch it, it's not
neither a chord nor a dissonance,
856
01:02:23,232 --> 01:02:25,302
and if you play the missing note
857
01:02:28,913 --> 01:02:31,188
It is completely different.
858
01:02:31,833 --> 01:02:34,711
Work in the margin
of the difference.
859
01:02:34,913 --> 01:02:38,950
The strategy is that oscillation
that goes forward and back
860
01:02:39,312 --> 01:02:43,191
and the axis to achieve it is to carry
to the musicians to no man's land
861
01:02:43,392 --> 01:02:46,065
between the melody and harmony
traditional,
862
01:02:46,352 --> 01:02:48,422
and the chirps,
avant-garde.
863
01:02:48,592 --> 01:02:52,825
It is not classical music or jazz.
It is not abstract,
864
01:02:53,073 --> 01:02:56,428
there are still songs
and a voice that sings,
865
01:02:56,592 --> 01:02:59,948
there still being
a letter inside
866
01:03:00,152 --> 01:03:03,906
that does not clarify things,
it confuses them even more.
867
01:03:27,032 --> 01:03:31,343
In the photo that I have
is alone in a large space
868
01:03:31,511 --> 01:03:35,630
singing with all his strength,
but there is no one around.
869
01:03:37,872 --> 01:03:42,581
It has an almost grotesque face
870
01:03:45,032 --> 01:03:48,945
who does it emotionally
so strong.
871
01:03:49,112 --> 01:03:51,865
Because when you do not hide
872
01:03:52,272 --> 01:03:56,551
Behind nothing,
such as fashion or rhythm,
873
01:03:56,753 --> 01:04:00,824
there are many ways to hide,
when you are there saying:
874
01:04:00,991 --> 01:04:03,789
"This is me with my voice
just as I am".
875
01:04:04,151 --> 01:04:10,910
And when you put that voice
in that kind of music
876
01:04:11,432 --> 01:04:13,661
it's great.
He is very Brave.
877
01:04:13,831 --> 01:04:16,665
The voice is interesting,
because sometimes I hate her.
878
01:04:16,832 --> 01:04:19,585
I have a relationship
love-hate with her,
879
01:04:19,752 --> 01:04:22,824
It is beautiful and unpleasant
at the same time.
880
01:04:22,992 --> 01:04:27,064
When I heard Tilt
for the first time I felt
881
01:04:27,231 --> 01:04:30,268
a little nervous about him,
It was weird,
882
01:04:30,551 --> 01:04:32,064
I was embarrassed.
883
01:04:32,231 --> 01:04:38,341
It's like an aging voice,
but it's still pretty.
884
01:04:38,512 --> 01:04:44,825
Somehow it sounds more dramatic
and touching sometimes
885
01:04:44,991 --> 01:04:48,222
because it sounds more vulnerable.
886
01:04:48,671 --> 01:04:50,947
I hate Tilt.
Completely.
887
01:04:51,112 --> 01:04:55,468
I went to listen to the record
888
01:04:56,351 --> 01:04:59,229
and I thought: "I'm just me?"
889
01:04:59,631 --> 01:05:03,021
Everyone sitting there,
reverent, and I thinking:
890
01:05:03,191 --> 01:05:06,183
"This is bad".
"It's horrifying".
891
01:05:06,551 --> 01:05:09,907
In his career there is a before
and one after Tilt.
892
01:05:10,191 --> 01:05:17,108
People boast of being daring
and ambitious and suddenly it appears
893
01:05:17,271 --> 01:05:20,262
a disc that supposes
what they fight for
894
01:05:20,430 --> 01:05:22,183
and the things they say they are.
895
01:05:22,351 --> 01:05:28,347
It made the people who passed
or posed as avant-garde
896
01:05:28,551 --> 01:05:30,940
it was old fashioned,
897
01:05:31,351 --> 01:05:32,500
I was old.
898
01:06:32,791 --> 01:06:36,180
When I think of Scott Walker
I think of Elliot
899
01:06:36,350 --> 01:06:37,750
or in Beckett or Joyce.
900
01:06:37,951 --> 01:06:41,067
I also relate it
with visual artists
901
01:06:41,630 --> 01:06:45,464
as Francis Bacon,
interior landscapes.
902
01:06:45,870 --> 01:06:49,910
Deal with fragments, clues.
903
01:06:50,151 --> 01:06:54,940
In the case of minor artists
those influences are an imitation
904
01:06:55,110 --> 01:06:56,907
they stay on the surface.
905
01:06:57,070 --> 01:06:59,460
Here, he absorbs them completely.
906
01:07:08,509 --> 01:07:12,139
I'm very intrigued
what will he do next?
907
01:07:21,831 --> 01:07:25,186
Although it would take another decade
record the next album
908
01:07:25,470 --> 01:07:28,382
the following years,
to be Scott Walker,
909
01:07:28,550 --> 01:07:29,460
it's busy
910
01:07:30,070 --> 01:07:33,858
French director Leos Carax
he orders the music
911
01:07:34,030 --> 01:07:36,703
of his new film "Pola X".
912
01:07:56,590 --> 01:07:58,660
It was a perfect union.
913
01:07:58,870 --> 01:08:02,862
It is almost logical that you find
certain complicity with Scott
914
01:08:03,069 --> 01:08:06,301
because they are both
some nonconformists in their field.
915
01:08:26,151 --> 01:08:32,702
I enjoyed working with Leos Carax,
but it was a continuous nightmare
916
01:08:32,909 --> 01:08:36,949
because he is as slow as I am,
so the process lasted for a year.
917
01:08:37,230 --> 01:08:41,667
I had to interview with him
again and again and I can only do
918
01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:44,059
one thing at a time.
919
01:08:44,269 --> 01:08:48,821
So it took about three years
only staying with Leos
920
01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:52,102
to make the soundtrack.
I did not care, I like it.
921
01:08:52,350 --> 01:08:54,705
How it stayed at the end,
I have no idea.
922
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:23,702
Dancing, choreographer
923
01:09:44,430 --> 01:09:46,307
I do not know what it is about.
924
01:09:46,549 --> 01:09:47,698
I do not get it,
925
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:50,299
But I like it.
926
01:09:50,548 --> 01:09:54,178
"... outside the hair grows,
inside, the skin, "
927
01:09:54,349 --> 01:09:57,819
"so the hair is out
and the skin inside, "
928
01:09:58,069 --> 01:10:02,460
"One likes the skin inside
and the hair was ... "
929
01:10:16,589 --> 01:10:19,261
I think there are two
of my best songs.
930
01:10:19,588 --> 01:10:22,386
She was not afraid,
It was fantastic:
931
01:10:22,628 --> 01:10:25,348
"I'm going to try, I'll take care of it."
And it was great.
932
01:10:25,629 --> 01:10:27,187
I was a piece of clay
933
01:10:27,349 --> 01:10:30,307
and he molded me
in his vision of music.
934
01:10:30,749 --> 01:10:32,944
Sometimes it was frustrating
935
01:10:33,269 --> 01:10:39,617
scream when I would have
It seemed good to remain silent.
936
01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:43,936
Or shut up when I thought
that should give him more emotion.
937
01:11:09,589 --> 01:11:10,464
I had to give
938
01:11:10,628 --> 01:11:14,416
to enter an abstract style
which I'm not used to
939
01:11:24,668 --> 01:11:29,697
Can you hear it? You can not count,
you have to listen to it
940
01:11:36,389 --> 01:11:37,537
I do not remember that.
941
01:11:59,748 --> 01:12:02,263
It was a fleeting vision
of the new album,
942
01:12:02,429 --> 01:12:04,146
It was quite intriguing.
943
01:12:04,308 --> 01:12:08,984
Fall as he did almost exactly
in the middle of the two albums.
944
01:12:09,188 --> 01:12:12,624
It is a representation
of your performance at that time
945
01:12:13,228 --> 01:12:16,743
and now we know
that was just a fleeting clue
946
01:12:17,108 --> 01:12:18,700
of what was to come.
947
01:12:26,828 --> 01:12:30,377
- You can take it.
- You've done this before, Scott.
948
01:12:32,627 --> 01:12:33,582
Who do you think about?
949
01:12:34,308 --> 01:12:39,257
On April 28, 1945
Benito Mussolini was executed
950
01:12:39,428 --> 01:12:42,976
by committee members
of Italian national liberation.
951
01:12:43,427 --> 01:12:47,182
Your lover, Claretta Petacci
He wanted to die with him.
952
01:12:47,588 --> 01:12:52,901
They were shot and taken away on a truck
to Piazzale Loreto, Mil n,
953
01:12:53,068 --> 01:12:55,629
to hang them together
of the ankles
954
01:12:55,949 --> 01:12:58,302
with the head
two meters from the ground.
955
01:12:58,587 --> 01:13:02,944
The crowd ridiculed them,
vilipendi and riddled with bullets.
956
01:13:03,107 --> 01:13:06,942
It happened to me when I was very little,
957
01:13:07,108 --> 01:13:10,384
I would have five or six years,
My aunt took me to the movies.
958
01:13:10,788 --> 01:13:17,705
Before the movie started
in the US they used to post news.
959
01:13:18,108 --> 01:13:22,465
They used to be things from the past,
Second World War and postwar,
960
01:13:22,708 --> 01:13:25,983
and of course they put
those two bodies hanging,
961
01:13:26,227 --> 01:13:29,025
bleeding out,
It was quite shocking,
962
01:13:29,187 --> 01:13:32,623
I found it quite impressive,
and I asked,
963
01:13:32,787 --> 01:13:38,066
but nobody wanted to explain it to me,
and every time he went back to the cinema
964
01:13:38,227 --> 01:13:41,345
they put those images
and they stayed inside me.
965
01:13:44,468 --> 01:13:48,585
Percussionist
966
01:13:55,827 --> 01:13:57,863
OK, leave it.
967
01:13:58,067 --> 01:13:59,546
You have to give it more ...
968
01:14:02,707 --> 01:14:03,583
You know?
969
01:14:03,867 --> 01:14:07,223
Because if you wait too long
among the pu etazos ...
970
01:14:07,467 --> 01:14:10,823
It's not very fast,
but it has to be more varied,
971
01:14:15,188 --> 01:14:15,825
so
972
01:14:15,988 --> 01:14:16,659
Voucher.
973
01:14:31,947 --> 01:14:32,663
Yes.
974
01:14:34,627 --> 01:14:35,980
I knew you would like it.
975
01:14:36,307 --> 01:14:38,696
Great, cool.
976
01:14:44,828 --> 01:14:48,263
It is very good.
We are going to listen to him again.
977
01:14:48,427 --> 01:14:50,496
Come and listen to it, it's great.
Come.
978
01:15:01,827 --> 01:15:04,784
The breasts still weigh.
979
01:15:07,027 --> 01:15:09,780
The legs fall
long and stretched.
980
01:15:12,347 --> 01:15:15,144
The upper lip
It has fallen short.
981
01:15:17,947 --> 01:15:20,665
Teeth
They are still small.
982
01:15:28,587 --> 01:15:31,260
The eyes are green.
983
01:15:33,947 --> 01:15:36,665
The long black hair.
984
01:15:38,707 --> 01:15:41,345
It continues to survive.
985
01:15:43,746 --> 01:15:46,544
It continues to survive.
986
01:16:00,747 --> 01:16:03,545
You do not have to take them
the verbatim,
987
01:16:03,747 --> 01:16:06,341
sometimes a political idea or known
988
01:16:06,547 --> 01:16:11,301
it's a springboard to the other side,
to another world,
989
01:16:12,746 --> 01:16:14,702
as it happens in this case.
990
01:16:14,866 --> 01:16:17,903
At the end
991
01:16:20,386 --> 01:16:23,106
a personal message
of oneself of some kind.
992
01:16:23,427 --> 01:16:25,940
In the last instance,
Your work is t .
993
01:16:26,746 --> 01:16:31,502
In my world, everything, because I have
a very nightmarish imagination,
994
01:16:31,747 --> 01:16:34,214
I have had many nightmares always,
995
01:16:34,386 --> 01:16:35,944
everything in my life is great,
996
01:16:36,146 --> 01:16:37,943
It is very disproportionate.
997
01:16:38,106 --> 01:16:41,142
It's a big thimble,
Do you know the trile game?
998
01:16:41,345 --> 01:16:42,381
Well, big.
999
01:16:42,626 --> 01:16:44,184
I have understood.
1000
01:16:45,066 --> 01:16:46,135
That is what it is.
1001
01:17:24,186 --> 01:17:28,736
The drift what's wrong
is that he has almost no arrangements.
1002
01:17:31,745 --> 01:17:35,374
There are textures,
as in the song "Cue",
1003
01:17:35,625 --> 01:17:37,935
but they are big blocks of sound,
1004
01:17:39,826 --> 01:17:43,738
the ropes make a big block
of noise, or there are noises,
1005
01:17:44,065 --> 01:17:46,340
but not fixes
and that is what I try.
1006
01:17:46,505 --> 01:17:51,341
The fullness does not disappear,
it is used when it is required,
1007
01:17:52,106 --> 01:17:56,257
that's why for certain things
you need an army of ropes,
1008
01:17:56,425 --> 01:17:59,940
because if you use less
you would not have that effect.
1009
01:18:00,105 --> 01:18:03,893
The night before the recording
of strings no pegu eye
1010
01:18:04,065 --> 01:18:05,544
and I doubt he would sleep.
1011
01:18:05,705 --> 01:18:08,538
It was the most demanding work
I've never done
1012
01:18:08,745 --> 01:18:11,101
There is a lot of pressure
in those recordings.
1013
01:18:11,266 --> 01:18:14,383
It costs a fortune:
You have 36 people there
1014
01:18:14,546 --> 01:18:16,615
and one day to have it ready.
1015
01:18:16,945 --> 01:18:19,061
From the face of the musicians it was deduced
1016
01:18:19,225 --> 01:18:22,138
that were so unsafe
of the project as I
1017
01:18:22,305 --> 01:18:24,614
the first time
who entered the study.
1018
01:18:24,785 --> 01:18:27,015
You tell them they have to sound
1019
01:18:27,185 --> 01:18:33,420
as bombers at 80 km
approaching slowly and understand
1020
01:18:33,585 --> 01:18:36,941
that when they are really close
they have to touch the strings
1021
01:18:37,105 --> 01:18:39,494
more violently than ever.
1022
01:18:52,145 --> 01:18:55,535
I was surprised by someone
who has the reputation of being
1023
01:18:56,265 --> 01:19:00,019
very thoughtful
and think a lot and for a long time
1024
01:19:00,185 --> 01:19:01,698
every creative movement
1025
01:19:01,905 --> 01:19:04,977
how fast it reacted
to the way you play,
1026
01:19:05,145 --> 01:19:07,056
suggested alternative ways
1027
01:19:07,225 --> 01:19:08,817
or on the contrary, he said:
1028
01:19:09,065 --> 01:19:10,976
"It's fine, let's move on."
1029
01:19:11,345 --> 01:19:16,624
Your instant skill
to filter the sound:
1030
01:19:17,065 --> 01:19:20,022
"I want this." Is it okay?
Yes, go ahead. "
1031
01:19:20,824 --> 01:19:24,659
Or, if something is not right,
deepen what is not right
1032
01:19:24,825 --> 01:19:25,655
and take it forward.
1033
01:19:31,425 --> 01:19:36,135
The sound that comes out of the studio,
after the recording,
1034
01:19:36,305 --> 01:19:38,375
it's surprisingly
1035
01:19:38,545 --> 01:19:40,536
nice and fun
1036
01:19:40,945 --> 01:19:42,094
It would not be said.
1037
01:19:42,305 --> 01:19:47,459
No, we would die
if we were in that mood
1038
01:19:47,625 --> 01:19:52,175
all day, and of course in everything
There is a good dose of humor.
1039
01:19:52,384 --> 01:19:57,220
If everything was gothic style
It would be very boring.
1040
01:20:01,745 --> 01:20:05,977
It's easy to imagine
in the current top-ten.
1041
01:20:12,264 --> 01:20:15,700
I like to work
with artists like Scott,
1042
01:20:15,864 --> 01:20:18,698
You have to interpret many things.
1043
01:20:18,865 --> 01:20:22,857
Sometimes he tells you:
"I like how that sounds."
1044
01:20:23,064 --> 01:20:26,534
If you take it at face value
It can give you a bad result.
1045
01:20:26,704 --> 01:20:28,535
You ask yourself:
"What do you mean?"
1046
01:20:28,704 --> 01:20:32,175
If you want seagulls
you can use the guitar,
1047
01:20:32,345 --> 01:20:35,860
but it can get to tell you:
"I want a donkey."
1048
01:20:49,424 --> 01:20:54,055
The sound of the donkey occupied a large part
of my time last year,
1049
01:20:54,224 --> 01:20:56,419
the search for the proper mule.
1050
01:20:56,744 --> 01:21:00,976
It sounds crazy, but it works.
1051
01:21:04,744 --> 01:21:08,942
Why do the recording?
with studio sound?
1052
01:21:09,144 --> 01:21:13,581
Because this has references
very specific to the world.
1053
01:21:13,744 --> 01:21:15,257
It is very crude.
1054
01:21:15,904 --> 01:21:18,338
As I move forward,
everything gets raw.
1055
01:21:18,504 --> 01:21:21,382
What Pete and I do
It is polishing the sound.
1056
01:21:21,544 --> 01:21:22,943
We have reached a point
1057
01:21:23,144 --> 01:21:27,023
in which we are fairly well-off
in a sound that is our
1058
01:21:27,384 --> 01:21:29,579
and with which our people
it is identified
1059
01:21:29,744 --> 01:21:32,098
We just continue,
like Beckett,
1060
01:21:32,263 --> 01:21:35,415
tuning
and tweaking things.
1061
01:21:35,624 --> 01:21:41,176
Perfecting all the songs
I have become...
1062
01:21:42,383 --> 01:21:45,660
There is less personality,
with the passage of the years,
1063
01:21:45,824 --> 01:21:46,939
in the singing.
1064
01:21:49,304 --> 01:21:50,578
In the last instance,
1065
01:21:51,104 --> 01:21:52,901
It's a man singing,
1066
01:21:53,104 --> 01:21:55,459
there are no soul inflections.
1067
01:21:55,745 --> 01:21:59,736
It is not that before I did many,
but now there is not.
1068
01:21:59,983 --> 01:22:04,295
I want to be a man singing,
when to show emotion
1069
01:22:05,383 --> 01:22:07,181
be real emotion.
1070
01:22:07,744 --> 01:22:13,262
Sometimes a bar tono voice
reassure people,
1071
01:22:14,303 --> 01:22:16,658
has that effect, stop listening
1072
01:22:16,903 --> 01:22:19,338
what you are hearing,
so if the voice
1073
01:22:19,544 --> 01:22:23,822
increases with the letter,
dizzily,
1074
01:22:25,384 --> 01:22:27,453
It will be much more effective there.
1075
01:22:27,623 --> 01:22:30,421
One is very lucky
if he goes through life singing,
1076
01:22:30,583 --> 01:22:32,778
It's better than other things,
1077
01:22:35,463 --> 01:22:38,979
but it is a genuine ghost
that I will not overcome
1078
01:22:40,184 --> 01:22:44,496
and I want to do it
only once or twice if I can,
1079
01:22:45,543 --> 01:22:48,455
I need to get it at all.
1080
01:22:49,944 --> 01:22:52,537
I have failed many times
but I try.
1081
01:23:00,023 --> 01:23:06,576
Nostrils
Covered with black cocaine
1082
01:23:20,422 --> 01:23:26,862
Nobody puts you
a match in the skin.
1083
01:23:39,663 --> 01:23:43,942
There's no imbecile,
there is no child,
1084
01:23:44,664 --> 01:23:49,656
far away,
to many miles.
1085
01:23:58,743 --> 01:24:03,658
The needle does not go through the glove.
1086
01:24:18,703 --> 01:24:22,411
Hunger is a very tall tower.
1087
01:24:23,102 --> 01:24:26,856
A building alone at night.
1088
01:24:27,823 --> 01:24:31,054
Jesse, are you listening?
1089
01:24:35,623 --> 01:24:40,174
Project your ruins in shadows
1090
01:24:40,702 --> 01:24:44,411
Under the moonlight of Memphis.
1091
01:24:45,822 --> 01:24:49,133
Jesse, are you listening?
1092
01:25:00,583 --> 01:25:03,859
There is space on Tilt,
1093
01:25:04,023 --> 01:25:07,015
but there are more spaces
for silence,
1094
01:25:08,182 --> 01:25:10,491
so that the language emerges.
1095
01:25:10,662 --> 01:25:15,213
That's why the lyrics are important,
1096
01:25:16,702 --> 01:25:20,615
because you have to feel
the phenomenon of words
1097
01:25:21,103 --> 01:25:23,298
practically leaving the silence.
1098
01:25:28,182 --> 01:25:31,060
Alive.
1099
01:25:31,302 --> 01:25:36,660
I'm the only one
who has been alive
1100
01:25:37,222 --> 01:25:42,854
I'm the only one
who has been alive
1101
01:25:43,262 --> 01:25:48,620
I'm the only one
who has been alive
1102
01:26:01,901 --> 01:26:04,370
I envy people
who does not know Scott
1103
01:26:04,542 --> 01:26:07,010
and I think:
"Cabrones with luck".
1104
01:26:07,262 --> 01:26:11,619
"They have a huge world waiting for them
and it's going to be wonderful. "
1105
01:26:11,782 --> 01:26:14,011
And at the same time
I want to say:
1106
01:26:14,261 --> 01:26:17,254
"Watch out,
you did not spend too much time there, "
1107
01:26:17,422 --> 01:26:19,253
"It's very dangerous, I know,"
1108
01:26:19,422 --> 01:26:22,619
"I've spent a lot of time
listening to Scott Walker "
1109
01:26:23,102 --> 01:26:27,221
"and the person has not made me
happiest in the world. "
1110
01:26:27,583 --> 01:26:31,415
He is a poet and composer
of the unconscious
1111
01:26:31,621 --> 01:26:36,297
and if someone wants to find you
a logic to their work,
1112
01:26:36,541 --> 01:26:40,012
it would be the logic of a dream world.
1113
01:26:40,182 --> 01:26:43,254
There is nobody else doing
what he does
1114
01:26:44,661 --> 01:26:47,574
and I think the feeling
that produces listen
1115
01:26:47,862 --> 01:26:50,456
your current job
still has no name.
1116
01:26:50,622 --> 01:26:53,375
It is a comfortable position.
I do not want to give it a name,
1117
01:26:53,982 --> 01:26:55,176
is a feeling.
1118
01:26:57,021 --> 01:27:00,331
I was recently in Par s
giving some interviews
1119
01:27:00,501 --> 01:27:03,971
and at least
Three interviewers told me:
1120
01:27:04,141 --> 01:27:07,850
"There are no songs anymore."
1121
01:27:08,301 --> 01:27:10,691
"We do not know what they are,
but they are not songs. "
1122
01:27:10,862 --> 01:27:13,376
Said:
"I always think of songs."
1123
01:27:13,582 --> 01:27:17,574
If they were not songs,
Did they have an idea of what they were?
1124
01:27:17,901 --> 01:27:20,974
No. They said:
"You're only there."
1125
01:27:21,142 --> 01:27:24,656
And I felt:
"No, not again."
1126
01:27:24,861 --> 01:27:27,694
It's like an intriguing explorer
or something like that.
1127
01:27:27,861 --> 01:27:32,252
Someone who goes to a part of the world
to which nobody has gone yet.
1128
01:27:32,861 --> 01:27:36,410
That part of the world
it can be inh spita
1129
01:27:36,821 --> 01:27:38,937
or be full of wild animals,
1130
01:27:39,101 --> 01:27:41,935
probably
you would not want to live there,
1131
01:27:42,102 --> 01:27:44,775
but admire
to someone who is prepared
1132
01:27:44,942 --> 01:27:48,980
to follow the path up there,
nail a flag and say:
1133
01:27:49,141 --> 01:27:52,052
"Look, here you can get there."
1134
01:27:52,661 --> 01:27:57,815
In my opinion, it should be recognized
as one of our best
1135
01:27:58,301 --> 01:28:01,259
not only composers,
but also poets.
1136
01:28:01,421 --> 01:28:03,981
His lyrics are incomparable.
1137
01:28:04,941 --> 01:28:07,535
I find it surprising
that you continue to see
1138
01:28:07,701 --> 01:28:11,899
as a marginal figure.
It's true, it's not very prolific,
1139
01:28:12,061 --> 01:28:15,611
but the quality of their work
It is extraordinary.
1140
01:28:19,460 --> 01:28:22,930
You think if Scott 4
it would have been a sales success
1141
01:28:23,140 --> 01:28:25,701
you would have arrived
to Tilt and The Drift?
1142
01:28:25,861 --> 01:28:30,013
I would have arrived earlier,
I would have arrived there much sooner,
1143
01:28:30,181 --> 01:28:34,777
because I would have continued,
1144
01:28:35,260 --> 01:28:39,493
instead of opening a parentheses
almost 20 years old.
1145
01:28:41,381 --> 01:28:44,213
I should also add
1146
01:28:45,020 --> 01:28:47,694
I'm not blaming
Nobody for it.
1147
01:28:47,861 --> 01:28:50,614
It's my bad faith
and I've been paying for it
1148
01:28:50,781 --> 01:28:53,613
since then, for me.
1149
01:28:54,180 --> 01:28:58,254
It is a serious question
1150
01:29:02,421 --> 01:29:06,016
because they depend on me,
all those years wasted.
1151
01:29:06,820 --> 01:29:11,291
My dilemma now is to try
on the next disc
1152
01:29:11,460 --> 01:29:14,611
go with less strength,
like a bike ride
1153
01:29:16,820 --> 01:29:19,255
or let my imagination fly
as usual
1154
01:29:19,421 --> 01:29:22,094
and forget everything completely.
1155
01:29:23,380 --> 01:29:26,611
He'll know when he starts
to record the next disc.
1156
01:29:29,861 --> 01:29:32,375
This morning in my room.
1157
01:29:35,181 --> 01:29:37,695
A small swallow
I was trapped.
1158
01:29:43,060 --> 01:29:45,733
Vol , desperate,
1159
01:29:47,500 --> 01:29:51,494
until he fell,
exhausted, in my bed.
1160
01:29:56,420 --> 01:30:01,255
He picked it up without frightening her.
1161
01:30:08,140 --> 01:30:09,858
Open the window
1162
01:30:18,300 --> 01:30:20,370
Then I opened my hand.
1163
01:30:21,305 --> 01:30:27,474
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