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We're the Blue Jean Committee! 13 00:01:05,599 --> 00:01:08,295 [lively rock music] 14 00:01:12,606 --> 00:01:16,269 I Gonna dance around the city I 15 00:01:16,577 --> 00:01:19,273 I Sing a song just like a southern melody J' 16 00:01:19,580 --> 00:01:21,138 I Mama, you're a dancerI 17 00:01:21,448 --> 00:01:23,382 - I You're a dancer I 18 00:01:23,650 --> 00:01:24,639 - A band like Blue Jean Committee, 19 00:01:24,952 --> 00:01:26,613 that only comes once in a lifetime. 20 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,114 - Those were amazing shows, 21 00:01:28,422 --> 00:01:30,117 and the people that are there 22 00:01:30,424 --> 00:01:32,255 really marked the times in their life 23 00:01:32,559 --> 00:01:35,323 by the time they spent watching Blue Jean Committee. 24 00:01:35,629 --> 00:01:37,654 - For the two years that record was popular, 25 00:01:37,965 --> 00:01:39,455 it was like Fleetwood Mac "Rumours." 26 00:01:39,766 --> 00:01:41,290 Every song was a single, 27 00:01:41,602 --> 00:01:43,001 and every single was great. 28 00:01:43,303 --> 00:01:45,271 - l was completely blown away by that record. 29 00:01:45,572 --> 00:01:47,233 We'd all tried to capture that thing, 30 00:01:47,507 --> 00:01:48,906 but they really got it. 31 00:01:49,176 --> 00:01:51,303 That was the quintessential California record. 32 00:01:51,612 --> 00:01:53,011 - �Catalina Breeze," 33 00:01:53,313 --> 00:01:54,644 the fantastic album of the '705 34 00:01:54,948 --> 00:01:57,439 in that moment, they were on top of the world. 35 00:01:57,751 --> 00:01:58,911 - I Baby, you're a dancerI 36 00:01:59,186 --> 00:02:00,016 IOh, babyI 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,617 - I Dancer I 38 00:02:01,922 --> 00:02:04,755 - I Freeway, ride me along I 39 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:10,787 I Freeway, ride me along I 40 00:02:12,766 --> 00:02:14,666 - The sonic quality of the music 41 00:02:14,968 --> 00:02:17,459 is real tranquil and placid and relaxing, 42 00:02:17,771 --> 00:02:21,707 and it is really in con?ict with their actual relationship, 43 00:02:22,009 --> 00:02:26,503 which was extremely bombastic and--and aggressive. 44 00:02:26,813 --> 00:02:28,337 - As sisters, you know, we love each other, 45 00:02:28,649 --> 00:02:29,809 and, like, when we listen to that music, 46 00:02:30,117 --> 00:02:31,709 like, we feel the love. 47 00:02:32,019 --> 00:02:33,816 Like, there was love there at one point. 48 00:02:34,121 --> 00:02:35,452 You know, you can't make music like that 49 00:02:35,722 --> 00:02:37,314 and not, you know, love each other. 50 00:02:37,624 --> 00:02:41,287 [vocalizing] 51 00:02:41,561 --> 00:02:43,495 - I Gentle I - I Gentle I 52 00:02:43,797 --> 00:02:45,355 - IAnd soft I 53 00:02:51,571 --> 00:02:53,562 [whirring] 54 00:03:02,983 --> 00:03:04,473 - Morning. - Morning. 55 00:03:10,257 --> 00:03:12,191 - In all of the pictures and everything 56 00:03:12,492 --> 00:03:15,393 In the magazines I used to read and to be in 'em, 57 00:03:15,696 --> 00:03:17,323 that's really something. 58 00:03:17,597 --> 00:03:18,529 You go, �Well, you know, there's someone I admire. 59 00:03:18,832 --> 00:03:20,356 There's someone I admire, 60 00:03:20,667 --> 00:03:22,100 and what's-~what's my mug doing in there?" 61 00:03:22,402 --> 00:03:23,767 So that was, uh, really nice, 62 00:03:24,071 --> 00:03:26,164 and it's very, uh, very thankful for every moment 63 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,202 that someone said something nice. 64 00:03:27,507 --> 00:03:28,701 It meant a lot to me. 65 00:03:29,009 --> 00:03:29,737 You don't mind the camera's here, right? 66 00:03:30,043 --> 00:03:31,271 - Yep. - [laughs] 67 00:03:31,578 --> 00:03:34,604 So, uh, it was-- it was a good feeling. 68 00:03:34,915 --> 00:03:36,712 My name is Gene, I live in, uh, Chicago, 69 00:03:37,017 --> 00:03:39,212 and apparently you guys are interested in talking to me 70 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:41,248 about the Blue Jean Committee. 71 00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:44,524 Yeah, it's a glamorous job. 72 00:03:44,791 --> 00:03:46,224 You know, you do it for the love of it. 73 00:03:47,294 --> 00:03:48,261 Yeah, I'm not mad at Clark. 74 00:03:48,562 --> 00:03:50,257 You know, I mean, to be honest, 75 00:03:50,564 --> 00:03:52,361 I mean, I haven't thought about him in quite a few decades. 76 00:03:52,632 --> 00:03:53,758 Perfect. 77 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:55,227 I've got a lot of good memories, 78 00:03:55,535 --> 00:03:57,730 but, uh, as far as, you know, 79 00:03:58,038 --> 00:03:59,801 thinking about what Clark is like, 80 00:04:00,107 --> 00:04:01,472 it's been a long time since 81 00:04:01,775 --> 00:04:03,367 I've, uh, really thought about him. 82 00:04:03,643 --> 00:04:05,235 I hadn't seen him in a long time. 83 00:04:14,421 --> 00:04:16,946 - Oh, we got this house in, uh, '98. 84 00:04:20,761 --> 00:04:22,319 It's my money. I bought all this. 85 00:04:22,629 --> 00:04:23,721 I bought all these guys out. 86 00:04:23,997 --> 00:04:25,294 I'm trying to buy that guy out, 87 00:04:25,599 --> 00:04:27,760 'cause, see--see how his telephone pole 88 00:04:28,068 --> 00:04:29,763 is obstructing my view of the ocean? 89 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:31,662 If you're sitting here, 90 00:04:31,972 --> 00:04:33,906 I can't see the ocean from here, 91 00:04:34,174 --> 00:04:37,439 so I got to knock all that out. 92 00:04:37,744 --> 00:04:39,075 Fame is--it's nice. 93 00:04:39,346 --> 00:04:41,473 I mean, fame is a good thing, you know? 94 00:04:41,782 --> 00:04:42,578 I live here. 95 00:04:42,849 --> 00:04:44,817 Got my nice house. 96 00:04:45,118 --> 00:04:46,745 lt's--it's all been worth it. 97 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:49,318 When I look at what I've got, 98 00:04:49,623 --> 00:04:51,488 I say, �Thank god I thought up 99 00:04:51,792 --> 00:04:54,352 this Blue Jean Committee thing." 100 00:04:54,661 --> 00:04:55,855 - They had such a sound. 101 00:04:56,163 --> 00:04:57,687 I remember the ?rst time I heard it. 102 00:04:57,998 --> 00:05:01,331 l was driving down PCH, top down, 103 00:05:01,635 --> 00:05:03,933 heard this thing; it was like nothing I'd ever heard before, 104 00:05:04,204 --> 00:05:06,434 and yet everything about California 105 00:05:06,706 --> 00:05:08,196 all at the same time. 106 00:05:08,508 --> 00:05:11,170 They somehow captured everything we'd all been alter. 107 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:13,343 And I was blown away. 108 00:05:13,647 --> 00:05:16,673 I said, �Where the heck did this music come from?" 109 00:05:16,983 --> 00:05:19,679 [laid-back jazzy music] 110 00:05:23,290 --> 00:05:25,224 - Well, I'm Chicago born and bred. 111 00:05:28,128 --> 00:05:31,529 People always said I was a bit of a handful, 112 00:05:31,998 --> 00:05:32,987 which was probably a nice way of saying 113 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:34,961 l was a little dickhead. 114 00:05:35,235 --> 00:05:37,362 My pop was the foreman at the old Vienna Beef factory 115 00:05:37,671 --> 00:05:39,969 over on North Damen. 116 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,537 - My parents both worked at 117 00:05:41,842 --> 00:05:43,639 Schwenke's Sausage and Rendering. 118 00:05:43,910 --> 00:05:45,309 That's where they met. 119 00:05:45,579 --> 00:05:46,876 Schwenke's is the best. 120 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:48,374 Mom did, uh, quality control. 121 00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:50,411 She took it real serious, 122 00:05:50,717 --> 00:05:52,651 and my dad worked on the line. 123 00:05:52,919 --> 00:05:53,908 He was a packer. 124 00:05:54,221 --> 00:05:55,552 I used to, uh, play with the hairnets; 125 00:05:55,856 --> 00:05:57,016 to bring 'em back home. 126 00:05:57,324 --> 00:06:00,384 But mostly I liked playing music. 127 00:06:00,694 --> 00:06:03,754 My earliest memories were, uh, loving all the doo-wop groups. 128 00:06:04,064 --> 00:06:05,588 This is going back a long ways, you know. 129 00:06:05,899 --> 00:06:07,560 Doo-wop is, uh... 130 00:06:07,868 --> 00:06:09,335 it's--it's not just oldies; 131 00:06:09,603 --> 00:06:12,037 it's ancient-ies. 132 00:06:12,339 --> 00:06:14,899 So, uh, me and Clark, we met at sausage school, 133 00:06:16,877 --> 00:06:17,741 the hallways and stuff. 134 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:19,568 I saw him here and there, 135 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,576 and, uh, think he was, uh, kind of a trouble-maker. 136 00:06:22,883 --> 00:06:24,407 - l was on the wrestling team. 137 00:06:24,718 --> 00:06:26,845 Pee-wee state champ, 102 lb. division 138 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,382 three years running. 139 00:06:28,688 --> 00:06:30,349 Thank you. 140 00:06:30,624 --> 00:06:31,591 - In school I'd play little assemblies and stuff, 141 00:06:31,892 --> 00:06:32,859 and I'd play for everybody, 142 00:06:33,126 --> 00:06:34,616 And I'd play, uh, �Glad All Over" 143 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:36,418 by the Dave Clark Five. 144 00:06:36,730 --> 00:06:37,788 - You know, and I loved being on the wrestling team. 145 00:06:38,098 --> 00:06:39,531 The wrestling team was a great thing, 146 00:06:39,799 --> 00:06:41,767 but wha--what the problem was, I started noticing 147 00:06:42,068 --> 00:06:44,536 that the guys with the guitars were getting more chicks 148 00:06:44,804 --> 00:06:46,396 than the guys in the team, 149 00:06:46,706 --> 00:06:47,764 which, you know, I didn't like. 150 00:06:48,074 --> 00:06:49,769 - So one day Clark finally comes up to me, 151 00:06:50,076 --> 00:06:51,475 first time he'd said anything to me, 152 00:06:51,778 --> 00:06:53,302 and he says, "Hey, you're in my group now." 153 00:06:53,613 --> 00:06:54,739 - I don't think there was one moment 154 00:06:55,048 --> 00:06:56,879 when Gene and I decided to become a band, 155 00:06:57,150 --> 00:06:57,946 to be honest with you. 156 00:06:58,251 --> 00:06:59,809 It happened very organically. 157 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,417 - I said, �Okay, we're in a group now. 158 00:07:01,721 --> 00:07:02,745 Uh, can I go down the hall?" 159 00:07:03,056 --> 00:07:04,318 He says, "No. 160 00:07:04,624 --> 00:07:06,455 We're in a group now, starting now." 161 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:07,454 I said, "Okay." 162 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:10,093 [laughs softly] 163 00:07:10,397 --> 00:07:12,922 So we dropped out of sausage school to play music. 164 00:07:13,233 --> 00:07:15,929 [groovy rock music] 165 00:07:16,236 --> 00:07:18,830 - Uh, Mom and Dad didn't like the music thing. 166 00:07:19,139 --> 00:07:20,970 You know, now their little Eugene Skrowaczeski 167 00:07:21,274 --> 00:07:22,798 is Gene Allen, 168 00:07:23,109 --> 00:07:24,633 and he's singing all these ootsie-tootsie songs 169 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:28,346 to a bunch of dopers on the north side. 170 00:07:28,648 --> 00:07:31,116 Me and my gals pals thought it was pretty cool, though. 171 00:07:31,418 --> 00:07:33,648 I think Derene Berezowski blew him, 172 00:07:33,954 --> 00:07:38,152 or at least a tug job of some kind took place there. 173 00:07:40,694 --> 00:07:41,752 - First time I heard Gene & Clark, 174 00:07:42,028 --> 00:07:43,086 l was just coming out of Philadelphia 175 00:07:43,363 --> 00:07:44,921 and was living in New York and traveling-- 176 00:07:45,198 --> 00:07:47,428 just starting to tour all over the world. 177 00:07:47,701 --> 00:07:48,861 I wouldn't call it a brand-new sound, 178 00:07:49,169 --> 00:07:51,103 but it was so much of its- of its time. 179 00:07:51,371 --> 00:07:52,770 And I was going, �Okay, man, these guys, 180 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:54,768 I think maybe they have a future." 181 00:07:55,041 --> 00:07:57,509 [laid-back jazzy music] 182 00:07:57,811 --> 00:08:00,541 - Me and Clark, wejust went out and we played, uh, 183 00:08:00,847 --> 00:08:03,975 you know, open mics and diners and pizza places 184 00:08:04,284 --> 00:08:06,013 and wherever would have us. 185 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,514 - And so we--so we, "We got to-- got to find a recording studio. 186 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:10,119 We got to�you know, where we gonna do this thing?" 187 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:11,948 In Chicago there wasn't a lot of places, 188 00:08:12,225 --> 00:08:14,716 so, uh, I booked us some studio time in this little place 189 00:08:15,028 --> 00:08:17,462 over on the north side, Capstone Studios. 190 00:08:19,032 --> 00:08:20,659 - The original Capstone Studios 191 00:08:20,967 --> 00:08:24,459 was open in 1967 at the comer of Clybourn and Halsted. 192 00:08:24,738 --> 00:08:26,467 - No, it was Halsted and North. 193 00:08:26,740 --> 00:08:29,641 - No, it was right there where Clybourn does that littlejog. 194 00:08:29,909 --> 00:08:31,638 It's a FedEx Kinkos now. 195 00:08:31,911 --> 00:08:34,744 - FedEx Kinkos is one block up on Halsted and Clybourn. 196 00:08:35,048 --> 00:08:37,642 We were one block down on Halsted and North, 197 00:08:37,917 --> 00:08:39,475 where the Boston Market is now. 198 00:08:39,753 --> 00:08:41,186 - There's not a Boston Market at the corner 199 00:08:41,488 --> 00:08:42,216 of Clybourn and North. 200 00:08:42,522 --> 00:08:43,489 - Not now, no, 201 00:08:43,757 --> 00:08:44,815 but there was one, 202 00:08:45,091 --> 00:08:45,887 and now it's a-- what do you call it-- 203 00:08:46,192 --> 00:08:47,159 a Panera Bread corporation. 204 00:08:47,427 --> 00:08:48,917 - The Panera Bread is at the corner 205 00:08:49,229 --> 00:08:50,526 of Clybourn and Halsted, 206 00:08:50,830 --> 00:08:54,163 and that is a fact, case closed, next subject. 207 00:08:54,434 --> 00:08:55,731 - There's a pretty funny story 208 00:08:56,036 --> 00:08:57,003 about where the name comes from, 209 00:08:57,270 --> 00:08:58,532 you know, the-- the Blue Jean Committee. 210 00:08:58,838 --> 00:09:00,100 - We saw, uh, �Easy Rider," 211 00:09:00,407 --> 00:09:02,602 and we thought, �Well, that's kind of--of a good look. 212 00:09:02,909 --> 00:09:04,035 "We should wear some blue jeans, 213 00:09:04,344 --> 00:09:05,606 "look like some, you know, regular guys, 214 00:09:05,912 --> 00:09:07,777 but still with some style." 215 00:09:08,081 --> 00:09:10,174 So we went to Marshall Field's and we got, uh... 216 00:09:10,450 --> 00:09:13,715 - What they now refer to as a Canadian tuxedo, right? 217 00:09:14,020 --> 00:09:15,681 - A bunch of dungarees and jeans, 218 00:09:15,955 --> 00:09:17,684 and, uh, looked pretty good. 219 00:09:17,957 --> 00:09:19,515 - So we stroll into our ?rst session at Capstone, 220 00:09:19,793 --> 00:09:20,885 all excited. 221 00:09:21,194 --> 00:09:22,627 - So these guys walk in, 222 00:09:22,929 --> 00:09:24,863 I says, �Who sent you? The Blue Jean Committee?" 223 00:09:25,131 --> 00:09:28,100 - ljust go ka-bap. 224 00:09:28,401 --> 00:09:30,699 - Just punched them, 225 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:32,198 you know, right in the mouth. 226 00:09:32,472 --> 00:09:33,632 - Put me in the hospital. 227 00:09:33,940 --> 00:09:35,202 - Completely ?attened his nose, 228 00:09:35,475 --> 00:09:36,203 gave him a concussion. 229 00:09:36,476 --> 00:09:37,568 - Yeah, nerve damage. 230 00:09:37,877 --> 00:09:40,277 I'm still numb from here to here. 231 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:42,104 - The funny thing is, a couple days later, 232 00:09:42,415 --> 00:09:44,576 Clark comes into the same exact room and says, 233 00:09:44,884 --> 00:09:46,044 �You know what we should call ourselves? 234 00:09:46,319 --> 00:09:47,809 The Blue Jean Committee." 235 00:09:48,121 --> 00:09:49,554 - He had a point. What can I say? 236 00:09:49,823 --> 00:09:51,051 When you're right, you're right, you know? 237 00:09:53,293 --> 00:09:54,885 Gene had this vision 238 00:09:55,161 --> 00:09:56,822 for this album that really transported people 239 00:09:57,130 --> 00:09:58,222 to Chicago. 240 00:09:58,498 --> 00:10:00,625 - I wanted people to� to really feel Chicago 241 00:10:00,934 --> 00:10:02,663 and smell Chicago and--and, uh, 242 00:10:02,969 --> 00:10:04,231 we just wanted to be a good Chicago blues band. 243 00:10:04,504 --> 00:10:05,732 Let's put it that way. 244 00:10:06,005 --> 00:10:08,735 [bluesy music] 245 00:10:11,344 --> 00:10:14,074 [clunky, out-of-tune blues music] 246 00:10:21,521 --> 00:10:22,954 I Chicago I 247 00:10:23,256 --> 00:10:24,587 - I Oh, whoa, whoa I 248 00:10:24,858 --> 00:10:25,916 - I Chicago I 249 00:10:26,192 --> 00:10:27,591 - I Oh, whoa, whoa I 250 00:10:27,861 --> 00:10:30,625 - I Chicago I 251 00:10:30,930 --> 00:10:32,022 I Chicago I 252 00:10:32,332 --> 00:10:33,765 - I Oh, whoa, whoa I 253 00:10:34,033 --> 00:10:36,763 - I Can I get a couple of beers I 254 00:10:38,872 --> 00:10:39,839 I Hey, miss I 255 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:41,607 [guitar tuning] 256 00:10:41,875 --> 00:10:43,103 You should tune that up a little bit. 257 00:10:43,376 --> 00:10:45,139 I One, two, three, four I 258 00:10:45,445 --> 00:10:48,005 - So we cranked out two records, lickity split: 259 00:10:48,314 --> 00:10:51,613 Our debut ��St. Stanislaus' Matinee"... 260 00:10:51,885 --> 00:10:53,318 - I Hey, miss I 261 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:55,611 I Can I get a beer I 262 00:10:55,889 --> 00:10:58,824 IAnd then a oouple of beers I 263 00:10:59,125 --> 00:11:00,649 I Hey, miss I 264 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,154 Then in February of '72, uh, 265 00:11:02,462 --> 00:11:05,226 put out "221 Pulaski Parkway." 266 00:11:05,532 --> 00:11:08,660 We had ��Wind Off the Lake" and �Goodbye, Dan Ryan," uh... 267 00:11:08,968 --> 00:11:10,162 "Lip Service." 268 00:11:10,470 --> 00:11:11,960 That's--that's about mustaches. Uh... 269 00:11:12,238 --> 00:11:16,072 I Lip service I 270 00:11:16,376 --> 00:11:17,308 I Watch out I 271 00:11:17,577 --> 00:11:21,638 I For that lip service I 272 00:11:21,915 --> 00:11:23,815 I Uptown, downtown I 273 00:11:24,083 --> 00:11:26,176 I Everybody's steamin' I 274 00:11:26,486 --> 00:11:28,647 I In the outskirts and in the in-skirts I 275 00:11:28,922 --> 00:11:29,889 I Everybody's steamin' I 276 00:11:33,092 --> 00:11:35,026 -And it tanked, big-time. 277 00:11:35,328 --> 00:11:36,659 - It tanked, you know, and we had, uh, 278 00:11:36,930 --> 00:11:37,897 financed it ourselves. 279 00:11:38,198 --> 00:11:39,825 That's the hard part. 280 00:11:40,099 --> 00:11:41,327 - We were out of cash, 281 00:11:41,601 --> 00:11:43,728 up to our eyeballs in remaindered LPs. 282 00:11:44,037 --> 00:11:46,335 - I think it hit Clark pretty hard. 283 00:11:46,606 --> 00:11:48,005 - Oh, things got bad. 284 00:11:48,274 --> 00:11:49,832 Clark, he holed himself up 285 00:11:50,109 --> 00:11:50,837 in this little apartment 286 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:52,077 over at Wabash and Cullerton. 287 00:11:52,378 --> 00:11:53,174 Tried to drink himself to death. 288 00:11:53,446 --> 00:11:54,413 - Wabash and Cermak. 289 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:56,011 - Cullerton. 290 00:11:56,282 --> 00:11:57,010 We're not going through this again. 291 00:11:57,283 --> 00:11:58,682 - I went to a dark place, man. 292 00:11:58,952 --> 00:11:59,850 Drinking and druggin'. 293 00:12:00,119 --> 00:12:01,848 l was paying for sex. 294 00:12:02,121 --> 00:12:03,713 I'm walking out of Bennie's 295 00:12:04,023 --> 00:12:05,012 with a 12'er of Old Style, 296 00:12:05,291 --> 00:12:07,919 when I saw the most beautiful sight. 297 00:12:08,228 --> 00:12:09,855 I saw two seagulls cruising along. 298 00:12:10,129 --> 00:12:11,892 [tranquil acoustic guitar] 299 00:12:12,198 --> 00:12:15,361 They got me thinking about the ocean and the sand 300 00:12:15,635 --> 00:12:18,297 and beach balls and, you know, stuff like that, 301 00:12:18,605 --> 00:12:21,130 and, you know, for the first time in a while I felt good. 302 00:12:21,441 --> 00:12:23,705 Wasn'ttill lsobered up that I realized 303 00:12:23,977 --> 00:12:27,777 that the birds were pigeons, but... 304 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:29,207 you know, who gives a shit? 305 00:12:29,482 --> 00:12:30,813 I mean, it's a better story with seagulls. 306 00:12:31,117 --> 00:12:32,106 - Then Clark called me and said that 307 00:12:32,418 --> 00:12:33,783 We're gonna have a meeting. 308 00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:35,884 He says, ��You know what? 309 00:12:36,155 --> 00:12:37,315 [bleep] Chicago." 310 00:12:37,624 --> 00:12:38,886 I said, 311 00:12:39,158 --> 00:12:40,090 "Nobody says '[bleep] Chicago.� 312 00:12:40,393 --> 00:12:43,385 And he says, uh, "California. 313 00:12:43,663 --> 00:12:46,325 We're gonna be a California band." 314 00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:50,330 [dramatic organ music] 315 00:12:50,637 --> 00:12:53,128 [laid-back rock music] 316 00:12:53,439 --> 00:12:54,997 - California was the vibe. 317 00:12:55,308 --> 00:12:57,071 You know, feeling the breeze and the air 318 00:12:57,343 --> 00:12:58,469 and the sun on yourskin. 319 00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:00,803 You know, that kind of shit, you know? 320 00:13:01,114 --> 00:13:02,979 Write music about that. 321 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:04,181 It's not that hard. 322 00:13:06,686 --> 00:13:08,119 - Uh, you know, people often mention 323 00:13:08,421 --> 00:13:10,116 how the beach boys didn't surf, 324 00:13:10,423 --> 00:13:12,823 and they sang all these songs about sur?ng, you know? 325 00:13:13,126 --> 00:13:14,923 l--l mean, I think it's an interesting analogy 326 00:13:15,194 --> 00:13:19,187 to the Blue Jean Committee who wrote about living in California 327 00:13:19,499 --> 00:13:22,366 while residing in Chicago. 328 00:13:22,669 --> 00:13:24,159 - "California," I said, 329 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:25,960 "You know, we're not even from there. 330 00:13:26,272 --> 00:13:26,966 "I don't know what to-- you know, what are we 331 00:13:27,273 --> 00:13:28,467 "gonna write about? 332 00:13:28,775 --> 00:13:30,868 �Hills and�and grapes? 333 00:13:31,177 --> 00:13:32,109 Wine? I don't know." 334 00:13:32,378 --> 00:13:36,007 l--l just--l knew beer and blues. 335 00:13:36,316 --> 00:13:37,977 - The fact of the matter is no one gave a shit about Chicago. 336 00:13:38,284 --> 00:13:39,478 I mean, we're not making any money. 337 00:13:39,786 --> 00:13:41,219 Everything was about California at the time. 338 00:13:41,521 --> 00:13:43,546 I mean, that's just where the money was. 339 00:13:43,856 --> 00:13:46,484 - So then, uh, Clark says he'll write the songs if he has to. 340 00:13:51,030 --> 00:13:52,122 I mean, we had nothing. 341 00:13:52,398 --> 00:13:55,458 We had no songs and no album. 342 00:13:55,735 --> 00:13:57,896 So we're, uh, you know, stuck on an island, in a way. 343 00:13:58,204 --> 00:13:59,330 We're just stuck out there in Chicago 344 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:02,005 with, uh, some kind of half-baked plan, 345 00:14:02,308 --> 00:14:03,832 and then, uh, what changed everything 346 00:14:04,143 --> 00:14:07,044 was meeting, uh,Alvin lzoff. 347 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:10,339 [lively percussion] 348 00:14:10,650 --> 00:14:12,379 That name means a lot, 349 00:14:12,685 --> 00:14:14,346 and when you're hungry in the music business, 350 00:14:14,654 --> 00:14:16,178 that's who you want to talk to. 351 00:14:16,489 --> 00:14:19,014 - He was the biggest manager in the world at the time. 352 00:14:19,325 --> 00:14:20,849 If anybody can make this happen for us, 353 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,354 it was gonna be him. 354 00:14:22,662 --> 00:14:24,391 He was California music. 355 00:14:24,697 --> 00:14:28,030 - Yeah, lzoff, I'd call him a world-class asshole for sure. 356 00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:29,926 - Clark had gotten a tip from a pal of ours 357 00:14:30,236 --> 00:14:31,100 who worked at, uh, O�Hare. 358 00:14:31,404 --> 00:14:32,871 He was a skycap. 359 00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:34,605 Alvin lzoff had been coming into Chicago. 360 00:14:34,907 --> 00:14:36,340 He was trying to sign Peter Cetera. 361 00:14:36,609 --> 00:14:38,941 Clark got an idea that we should camp out at terminal 3, 362 00:14:39,245 --> 00:14:40,007 just wait. 363 00:14:40,279 --> 00:14:42,008 And, uh... 364 00:14:42,281 --> 00:14:43,873 we just waited. 365 00:14:44,183 --> 00:14:45,377 - I leave baggage claim at O'Hare Airport. 366 00:14:45,685 --> 00:14:46,549 l hop in the back of my limo. 367 00:14:46,853 --> 00:14:48,377 Suddenly the door llings open, 368 00:14:48,688 --> 00:14:52,089 and this lunatic hops in, waving a cassette tape. 369 00:14:52,392 --> 00:14:53,518 - He was scared shitless. He's a little guy. 370 00:14:53,793 --> 00:14:54,555 Little guy. 371 00:14:54,861 --> 00:14:55,919 He said, �Who are you?" 372 00:14:56,229 --> 00:14:57,560 And I go, "I'm your next star. 373 00:14:57,864 --> 00:15:00,355 Shut up. Listen to the tape." 374 00:15:00,633 --> 00:15:03,193 I had my forearm on his neck like that. 375 00:15:03,469 --> 00:15:04,595 - Gets in my face and says, 376 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:07,134 "Teach me how to be a California pansy." 377 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,930 - Then we hit him with our vocal warm-up, 378 00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:10,231 which was on the tape. 379 00:15:10,543 --> 00:15:12,374 - One, two, three, four. 380 00:15:12,645 --> 00:15:13,907 - I Kielbasa I 381 00:15:14,213 --> 00:15:15,475 - I Kielbasa I 382 00:15:15,782 --> 00:15:16,908 - I Kielbasa I 383 00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:18,240 - I Kielbasa I 384 00:15:18,551 --> 00:15:19,483 - I Kielbasa I 385 00:15:19,786 --> 00:15:21,048 - I Kielbasa I 386 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,050 - I Kielbasa I 387 00:15:24,323 --> 00:15:25,255 [tape clicks] 388 00:15:25,558 --> 00:15:27,048 - Boy, could they sing. 389 00:15:27,326 --> 00:15:28,452 -And you could see in his eyes 390 00:15:28,761 --> 00:15:31,059 the guy saw money, you know what I mean? 391 00:15:31,330 --> 00:15:33,560 - My big thing was reinventing a band's image. 392 00:15:33,833 --> 00:15:35,630 The band Shreveport, remember them? 393 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:38,096 I totally changed their look. 394 00:15:38,404 --> 00:15:39,598 The whole California thing, however, 395 00:15:39,906 --> 00:15:40,930 was a major issue. 396 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,400 - You got to remember, 397 00:15:42,675 --> 00:15:44,267 we'd never even been there. 398 00:15:44,577 --> 00:15:46,477 - I gave up after about six hours. 399 00:15:46,779 --> 00:15:49,247 I said, "[bleep] it, let's just fix the wardrobe." 400 00:15:49,515 --> 00:15:50,982 [upbeat rock music] 401 00:15:51,284 --> 00:15:52,273 [camera shutter clicks] 402 00:16:02,762 --> 00:16:05,595 [somber music] 403 00:16:11,671 --> 00:16:14,196 - Word on the street was that me and Gene 404 00:16:14,507 --> 00:16:15,974 had gone vegetarian. 405 00:16:16,275 --> 00:16:17,503 - Which was not true. 406 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:20,005 - And in Chicago that's a death sentence, you known 407 00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:21,211 - You can get away with insulting 408 00:16:21,514 --> 00:16:22,503 a lot of things in this city, 409 00:16:22,815 --> 00:16:24,214 because we're a liberal town. 410 00:16:24,517 --> 00:16:26,985 - Yeah, but don't insult the sausage. 411 00:16:27,286 --> 00:16:28,548 - Then my cousins caught wind of it, 412 00:16:28,855 --> 00:16:31,449 and they went bonkers and firebombed my apartment, 413 00:16:31,724 --> 00:16:34,386 almost killed me and the girl I was banging at the time. 414 00:16:34,694 --> 00:16:36,161 I mean, it was nuts. 415 00:16:36,462 --> 00:16:38,123 - Yeah, that was a scary time. 416 00:16:38,397 --> 00:16:39,523 It's the ?rst time in my life 417 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:42,323 I ever wanted to get out of Chicago. 418 00:16:42,635 --> 00:16:44,728 And, uh, that was the key to everything. 419 00:16:45,037 --> 00:16:46,470 -And so we had to hole up in the studio. 420 00:16:46,739 --> 00:16:48,172 It was the only place we were safe, 421 00:16:48,474 --> 00:16:49,668 which was a weird blessing in disguise 422 00:16:49,976 --> 00:16:51,739 because that let Gene, 423 00:16:52,044 --> 00:16:53,341 his little dweeb mind of his 424 00:16:53,646 --> 00:16:55,409 was able to come up with something, 425 00:16:55,715 --> 00:16:57,683 and that--that became the "Catalina" record. 426 00:16:57,984 --> 00:17:00,248 - Every song on that record is incredible. 427 00:17:00,553 --> 00:17:02,180 - Yeah. - Every single one. 428 00:17:02,488 --> 00:17:03,512 - I mean, like, now it's, like, 429 00:17:03,823 --> 00:17:04,755 everyone talks about, like, 430 00:17:05,057 --> 00:17:06,581 �What are the singles on your record?" 431 00:17:06,893 --> 00:17:08,656 I mean, every song on that record could have been a single. 432 00:17:08,928 --> 00:17:09,656 - Was a single. 433 00:17:09,929 --> 00:17:11,226 - It's like... 434 00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:12,759 I don't even know how they chose. 435 00:17:13,065 --> 00:17:16,364 - Monday night we roll tape. 436 00:17:16,669 --> 00:17:19,103 [guitars noodling] 437 00:17:24,677 --> 00:17:26,110 - You know, Alvin's trying to mess with our clothes 438 00:17:26,412 --> 00:17:27,538 and our look and everything. 439 00:17:27,847 --> 00:17:29,212 l--l thought, "What about the sound?" 440 00:17:29,515 --> 00:17:31,244 I love music, and I want to break down 441 00:17:31,551 --> 00:17:33,382 what that sound is. 442 00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:36,211 I found it, the harmonies and the vibe of the whole thing, 443 00:17:36,522 --> 00:17:38,422 and, uh, somehow the lyrics were there too. 444 00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:41,056 I Wiseman say if you want to know a man I 445 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:43,624 I Walk a mile in his shoes I 446 00:17:44,096 --> 00:17:46,724 - You know, what's crazy is it was so fast. 447 00:17:47,033 --> 00:17:48,295 You know, it was-- it was one night, you know? 448 00:17:48,601 --> 00:17:50,432 And we were exhausted. 449 00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:51,760 And Genejust wouldn't stop. 450 00:17:52,071 --> 00:17:55,097 - They recorded six number one hits 451 00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:57,205 in 72 hours. 452 00:17:57,476 --> 00:17:58,807 - Not just the hits, but, like, the whole record. 453 00:17:59,111 --> 00:18:00,203 - I Weather gets rough I 454 00:18:00,479 --> 00:18:01,776 - IYeah I 455 00:18:02,081 --> 00:18:03,241 - I Strap 'em on, lace 'em up I 456 00:18:03,549 --> 00:18:06,211 I Put on my walking shoes I 457 00:18:06,485 --> 00:18:07,577 - The songs just started coming. 458 00:18:07,887 --> 00:18:10,321 It was like Gene had ?ipped a switch. 459 00:18:10,623 --> 00:18:11,555 - "Walking Shoes," 460 00:18:11,824 --> 00:18:12,620 "She's Going to Hollywood." 461 00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:13,823 - "Montecito Memories." 462 00:18:14,126 --> 00:18:15,093 You got "Hibiscus." 463 00:18:15,394 --> 00:18:16,088 - They had "Funny Feeling." 464 00:18:16,395 --> 00:18:17,259 - "Satin Sym phony. " 465 00:18:17,563 --> 00:18:18,257 - "Gentle & Soft." 466 00:18:18,564 --> 00:18:19,326 - "Gentle"-- I mean... 467 00:18:19,632 --> 00:18:21,065 -All career-making songs. 468 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,630 - And I needed something that distinguished me 469 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:25,403 from everybody else, 470 00:18:25,671 --> 00:18:27,298 notjust in BJC, but everybody else in the game. 471 00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:29,268 - So we were laying down vocal harmonies. 472 00:18:29,575 --> 00:18:30,769 You know, a standard issue way 473 00:18:31,077 --> 00:18:32,635 is the singer sings a fifth, he sings a seventh, 474 00:18:32,945 --> 00:18:34,469 but that--it sounds like everybody else. 475 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:35,678 Nothing unique in that. 476 00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:37,347 - No, and then Clark found his own thing. 477 00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:38,446 It was magical. 478 00:18:38,751 --> 00:18:40,309 It was like a signature sound. 479 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:42,178 - I don't know, ljust-- I just kind of bare down 480 00:18:42,488 --> 00:18:44,183 and I get up there. 481 00:18:44,490 --> 00:18:45,787 I can sing pretty high, you know? 482 00:18:46,092 --> 00:18:48,788 [Clark singing high-pitched falsetto] 483 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,592 - Seemed as if it was being sung 484 00:18:55,868 --> 00:18:56,630 by a woman-- or maybe not even a woman, 485 00:18:56,936 --> 00:19:02,431 like a really young, very wai?sh small girl. 486 00:19:02,708 --> 00:19:04,175 - Didn't want to let Clark hear that. 487 00:19:04,477 --> 00:19:05,307 - No, you don't let him hear that. 488 00:19:05,611 --> 00:19:07,340 You'd have a boot up your ass real fast. 489 00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:10,616 - Falsetto is a very phallic form of singing, 490 00:19:10,883 --> 00:19:12,373 just very-- it's a very manly-- 491 00:19:12,685 --> 00:19:14,482 It's very, "Yeah!" 492 00:19:14,787 --> 00:19:15,481 Got a lot of con?dence, 493 00:19:15,788 --> 00:19:17,221 got a lot of strength. 494 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,656 - �Catalina Breeze." 495 00:19:21,961 --> 00:19:23,622 That's one for the ages. 496 00:19:23,896 --> 00:19:24,692 It's just the perfect album 497 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,658 for that time. 498 00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:29,230 lt summed up all our lives. 499 00:19:31,637 --> 00:19:33,161 - One, two, three, four. 500 00:19:33,472 --> 00:19:36,168 [laid-back guitar strumming] 501 00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:45,305 I TV says you got them high-class blues I 502 00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:52,752 I Seems the caravan to Aruba I 503 00:19:53,059 --> 00:19:55,254 I Is not the road that you would choose I 504 00:19:57,897 --> 00:20:00,559 I A barstool intellectual I 505 00:20:00,866 --> 00:20:06,202 I With a master's degree in small talk I 506 00:20:06,505 --> 00:20:08,496 I And going to the movies I 507 00:20:12,511 --> 00:20:13,705 I Catalina breeze I 508 00:20:14,013 --> 00:20:16,345 - I Catalina I 509 00:20:16,615 --> 00:20:17,513 - I Catalina breeze I 510 00:20:17,783 --> 00:20:20,343 - I Catalina I 511 00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:25,717 IHaI 512 00:20:26,025 --> 00:20:28,721 i? 513 00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:32,896 [audience] BJC! BJCI BJC! 514 00:20:33,199 --> 00:20:36,032 [cheers and applause] 515 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:39,230 - �Catalina Breeze," 516 00:20:39,538 --> 00:20:40,527 that's a song for the ages. 517 00:20:40,806 --> 00:20:41,602 - I Catalina breeze I 518 00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:44,398 - I Catalina I 519 00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:45,642 - I Catalina breeze I 520 00:20:45,945 --> 00:20:50,814 - I Catalina I 521 00:20:52,718 --> 00:20:54,413 - I suppose in retrospect, 522 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,484 it's predictable that this was going to self-combust 523 00:20:57,790 --> 00:20:59,655 when you have one guy in the band doing everything 524 00:20:59,959 --> 00:21:02,257 and the other guy just singing high. 525 00:21:02,561 --> 00:21:04,722 - I Catalina breeze I 526 00:21:04,997 --> 00:21:07,465 -IOhI 527 00:21:07,767 --> 00:21:08,631 - I Catalina breeze I 528 00:21:08,934 --> 00:21:11,801 -IOhI 529 00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:13,765 - Okay! 530 00:21:14,073 --> 00:21:15,267 -IOohI 531 00:21:15,574 --> 00:21:17,269 I Ooh, ooh I 532 00:21:17,576 --> 00:21:19,339 I Ooh, ooh I 533 00:21:19,645 --> 00:21:21,670 I Ooh, ooh I 534 00:21:21,981 --> 00:21:26,941 I Oh, oh, oh, oh I 535 00:21:29,155 --> 00:21:30,019 All right. 536 00:21:30,069 --> 00:21:34,619 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 38322

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