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You couldn't really miss
Gianni Agnelli.
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He was involved
with everything Italians love.
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Sex, cars, and sports.
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Every
woman was in love with him.
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Every man wanted to be him.
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People that were around him,
they were all in awe of him.
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Gianni had a great eye.
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Obsessed by aesthetics.
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Everybody tried
to copy him.
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When he was around,
the face of life changed.
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Electricity.
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Gianni played
a big role in saving Fiat.
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Fiat put the whole of Italy
on four wheels.
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Then the unrest started.
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We had the sense
of evolution.
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He had great sympathy
for workers
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and also for their plight.
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The industrial comeback
of Italy is Fiat.
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And it changed Italy completely.
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Mr. Agnelli.
He was the king of Italy.
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Are you aware
of what's going down
on the street today?
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You know what's going
on down the street?
Nope.
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You know
that there's
a climate march
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going on
down the street?
You don't know.
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Do you know there's
a climate march going on
down the street?
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What is it?
A climate march.
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No, I didn't know.
You don't know about that.
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There might end up being
more people waiting
for the new iPhone
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than for the parade.
We'll see.
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And if that's where
the parade's gonna be,
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it's completely empty, so.
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I've always been
a little skeptical of marches.
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I feel like they're
more for the marchers
than anything else.
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I had no idea
what it was gonna be like.
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All I'd been told
is that they were expecting
about 40,000 people.
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A little bit more energy
going on down here.
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I think there's more people
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than they thought
there would be.
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No.
Just touch
the screen?
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Yeah, just touch the screen.
Don't touch the...
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No, keep it
this way.
Oh, like that.
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- We're a radical group.
- You are?
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Yeah.
What's so radical
about you?
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Well, we advocate
for a separate hypothetical
militant underground
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to actually carry out
direct actions against
industrial infrastructure.
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Good luck with that.
Thank you.
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Hey, Habitat animal,
come here!
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How's it going today?
It's a bad, bad day
for polar bears.
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Yeah, it is.
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Climate change has got to go!
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Hey, hey, ho, ho!
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Climate change has got to go!
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Hey, hey, ho, ho!
Yeah! Whoo!
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There's often a disconnect.
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Like, people say they're green,
but they still drive everywhere.
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And they make
thousands of copies at work.
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Sandy was that wake up call
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to us as New Yorkers, to say,
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"Climate change is
actually a real issue
that we have to deal with."
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- Whose streets? Our streets!
- Whose streets? Our streets!
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Look who showed up
at the climate march,
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Mark Ruffalo.
Hello.
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Walmart, Google, Apple,
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Crayola, Johnson & Johnson...
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all of these companies
have moved to a hundred
percent renewable energy,
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not because
they necessarily care
about climate change,
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although I think
in their hearts they do...
Yeah.
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...but because they see
it's economically better
for them.
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Well, I'll tell you something.
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You know, you see
something like this
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and see all the commitments
that organizations are
willing to make,
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and then I'm like, "Really?"
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I can't turn my thermostat
from 72 to 68?"
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Close to a half
a million people
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wanting some action
on climate change.
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The whole thing
left me thinking about
some very specific questions.
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So I'm thinking back
on that climate march,
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and the bottom line to me is
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that 400,000 people showed up
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and said, "Do something!"
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I mean, it was oddly like,
celebratory in a way.
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I can't help but think
that renewable energy
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or the hope of it is tied up
in that somehow,
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because, as far
as I'm concerned,
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I don't know
what else would give people
a sense of hope, right?
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The question is,
"What about renewable energy?"
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I mean you hear a lot about,
"Oh yeah, they promise,"
or this and that.
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But honestly, honestly...
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can we make
enough renewable energy
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to supply the world
and replace fossil fuels?
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How would we do that?
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And will we do that?
Most importantly.
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That's what I want to know.
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You know, there's
a family angle to this
business about energy.
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Like a lot of people,
my grandfather,
Charlie Redford,
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he struggled
supporting his young family
during the Depression.
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Eventually, he got
an accounting job
at Standard Oil.
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And 30 years later,
he retired near the top
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of the Chevron
corporate ladder.
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His son, Robert, my dad,
took quite a different path.
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He started out
working at the loading bays
at the Standard Oil refinery,
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but his penchant
for the arts took him
in a whole other direction.
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the movies.
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And well, that worked out
pretty good.
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I'm Alexander Pierce.
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My father served
in the 101st.
Come on in.
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But being in Hollywood
was never going to be
enough for my dad,
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or my mom,
for that matter.
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I grew up
in a home with active
and engaged parents,
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particularly when
it came to the promise
of solar energy.
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They even made
an Academy Award-nominated
short film about it.
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- I'm very worried.
- Somebody do something.
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- Don't look at me, man.
- Find more oil!
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One of the most important
solar energy developments
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involves photovoltaic cells.
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So you'd think
with this sort of pedigree
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that I would have
an honorary degree
in renewable energy, right?
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But the truth is, I don't.
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Luckily, I have a friend
who's doing well with energy
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and environmental projects
on the global markets.
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And in his spare time,
he helps connect philanthropic
capital to energy innovation.
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Hey, hey!
How are you?
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Good. Good to see you.
Good to see you!
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So about 10 years ago,
there was this epiphany
that I had.
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I worked at a company
where we tried to forecast
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the future of the Internet
and digital media.
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But then I realized that
that's what the last 30
or 40 years had been about,
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sort of the story of humanity
was about the microprocessor
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and all the things that it
enabled, that changed our lives.
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But I felt like
the next 30 or 40 years
was about energy,
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because that's
the lowest common denominator
of every other resource.
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If you have infinite energy,
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you can boil the ocean
and make water you can drink.
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If you have infinite energy,
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you can reconfigure
the chemical bonds
in a plant
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and make a fuel
you can put in your car.
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So if we're
going to scale the world
for 11 billion people,
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energy is what it's about.
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What you just described to me
is exactly what my problem is,
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because it...
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I... I just keep on bumping up
against these Uber realities...
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And it's too big.
It's too big!
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So first and foremost,
it sounds like you are
not doing much
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and that you have...
energy paralysis.
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It's very hard to get excited
and do something meaningful
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about something
you can't see, right?
Right.
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You have
never seen energy.
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What you have seen
is the result of it.
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You've seen the car move.
You've seen the light come on.
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Maybe it would be, for me,
for my own edification...
Yeah.
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...if you could
take me on the journey
of the lonely electron.
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The easiest way
for me to think about this
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has been
the analogy to water.
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So think
of the electricity grid
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exactly like a set
of water pipes.
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The amount of water
that's flowing, right,
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the current is
the size of the pipe.
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And then how much power
we're delivering,
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how strong that motion is
is the pressure,
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how hard we're pushing
that water. That's voltage.
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So if you want to think
about electricity,
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moving electrons
just like moving water,
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the size of the pipe
is current,
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the force of the water
is the voltage.
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That make sense so far?
Yes.
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Okay. So there is
a power plant somewhere,
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and at that place,
we make some form of heat,
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like we burn coal or gas
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or we have
some radioactive reaction
that makes heat,
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and we use that heat
to boil water.
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We boil water,
we get steam.
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And that steam goes,
"Do-do-do-do-do-do-do," up.
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And when it goes up,
it turns a turbine around.
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That turbine turning
makes electrons move.
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And out of that power plant,
we're pushing a big number
of electrons...
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...down a big pipe.
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But then you come
to this little thing
called a substation.
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And what happens
at the substation is
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we take these
really high voltages
that are kind of dangerous,
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and we're going to step them
down, so we're now pushing
less electrons,
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less hard than we did
right out of the plant.
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And then that electron
moves through the wires
to go to your home.
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It goes out of the socket
through your phone,
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making the screen light up,
then goes back in,
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and then...
goes through the rest of the system.
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And by the way,
you can actually do this.
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You can track it yourself.
I am a trail runner,
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and the most
instructive exercise for me
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to understand
the power system
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was to find a power plant
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and then track
the power line corridor
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where the transmission
lines go,
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and just start running.
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So off I went,
just me and my phone camera.
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Coming in here,
they're going that way,
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they're going that way,
and they're going over there.
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There's towers
going everywhere.
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Super trippy driving
by the Chevron refinery.
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That's where
my grandpa worked.
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And it's just so ugly.
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What do you mean you're
looking for electricity?
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What is that about?
I just thought
I would try
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to figure out where the hell
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my electricity comes from.
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Can't you check your meter
and find out that way?
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Well, but it doesn't say
where the origin is.
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It doesn't tell you
literally where it's from.
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Well, what an interesting
little journey you're on.
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- You could say...
- And incredibly boring.
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Yeah.
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Pretty sleepy little town.
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I mean, it seems like it's
holding it's own economically.
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Probably because there is
a power plant here, right?
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Here it is!
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Here's my nearest power plant.
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The Pittsburg
Generating Station.
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I found it.
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Just a tangle of utility lines
going over everything.
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It is suitably depressing.
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And as you can see,
it makes electricity,
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and everyone says,
"Oh, all right, well,
that's good enough."
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But when you turn this way...
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and look across the bay...
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Whoa!
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Tons of windmills.
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So, you tell me,
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how you do you want
to make your power?
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I mean, intuitively speaking,
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is this what you want
your power plant to look like?
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Or that?
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Holy shit,
they're massive!
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Wow!
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I've been impressed
by a lot of technology
in my lifetime, but...
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I don't know
if anything tops this.
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- Where are you?
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I'm probably about an hour
and a half from home.
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As you can imagine,
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I'm not going to be home
in time for dinner.
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Oh, you won't
be home for dinner?
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I've been out in the garden.
Don't worry.
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No, no, no, no, don't worry.
Don't worry.
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Good. I'll see you
in a few hours.
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- Hey, Dad!
- Hi, Leens!
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What's up?
Yeah.
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I'm thinking, you know,
when you come home,
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how about you come
on a road trip with me
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to explore
some renewable energy
in the desert?
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What? Why would I go?
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Because you're really fun,
and I just...
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I'm always looking
for an excuse to be around you.
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Don't you feel
like you should...
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bring someone who actually
knows about... that stuff?
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Like someone who could
counter your ignorance?
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We can't just
have two dumb-dumbs
out there on the road.
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I'd like to say
that was the first time
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my daughter dropkicked
one of my plans,
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but it would be a lie.
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However, I did have better luck
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with an entrepreneur
musician friend
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who builds guitar amps
in his spare time.
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You can make an argument that,
"Well, maybe it's too late."
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That's one argument,
right? "Screw it."
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We're all doomed,"
you know?
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Suck the carbon down...
Yeah.
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...and you know,
wait for the apocalypse.
Yeah.
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The counterargument is,
"Every little bit helps."
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We're on the site
of the world's largest
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commercial solar
thermal facility.
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So we have almost
180,000 heliostats,
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what we call
heliostats...
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the mirrors that are
surrounding us...
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and three, you know,
significant towers.
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I'm going to do something
at great risk to my own image,
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and that is try and explain
what this plant is
doing right now.
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Great.
It's not that hard.
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That makes it
even worse.
Yeah.
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There is a star up here
emitting ultraviolet light.
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It's coming down...
I'd go with "infrared"
on that, Jamie.
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Okay, all right,
infrared 'cause we're
talking about heat.
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And it's hitting hundreds
of thousands of mirrors.
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And the cool thing
about these mirrors,
they're all aiming at that!
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And that's why
that thing is glowing
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like the Eye of Sauron
as we're standing here.
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That's not the end
of it, though.
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Apparently there's water
in there, and it super heats,
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and it drives that steam
down that tower,
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and goes somewhere
and turns turbines and makes
electricity and goes off.
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Touché. Touché, Jamie.
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From our perspective,
if you thought that we were
going to burn coal
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a hundred years from now
and that that was going to be
a sustainable approach,
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I think you're
grossly underestimating
the trajectory of technology.
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Right.
So there's very competitive
electricity from renewables.
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The problem is
the intermittency.
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Yeah.
So solar thermal
is clearly aimed
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when we compete
against renewables,
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we're competing against
the fact that we can
deliver energy on demand.
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So we're dispatchable.
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When we compete
against a gas plant,
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we're competing
against the fact that
we don't have emissions.
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They do.
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And we're supplying power
to California grid.
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That's right. We're part
of the renewable mix.
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We think
the current grid system
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could sustain 25
to 30 percent renewables.
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With a smarter grid...
meaning we could manage
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the intermittency
of renewables better...
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you can get
an even higher penetration.
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California's talking
about a 50 percent standard.
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There were, of course,
environmental issues building
this plant out here.
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Sure.
But very significantly,
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you didn't clear
a bunch of land.
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You can see there's...
there's weeds growing
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underneath these, uh,
these reflectors.
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Right.
It was all done in place,
basically, right?
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Any power plant is going
to be invasive by definition.
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Mm-hmm.
It's a physical facility.
If you build a building,
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- you build a power plant.
- Sure.
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So the trade is,
what can you do
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to be least
environmentally impactful?
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There's a small group of people
who wouldn't want
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the desert intruded on
for any purpose.
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Sure.
And for them,
there's no solution.
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There's nothing
you can do to say,
"We've mitigated.
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We've done
the best we can."
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I went to West Point,
got my engineering degree
at West Point.
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- Oh, you were military?
- Tell me again,
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you think this is invasive,
so you'd rather go out
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and protect our oil interests
in places that hate us.
329
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And for that,
you're willing to trade
dollars and bodies,
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and that's
a good trade for you?
That's a good trade?
331
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The true price of foreign oil.
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No one is more familiar
with that
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than the US Armed Forces.
334
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Interestingly,
the Armed Forces,
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the Navy in particular,
was beginning to embrace
renewable energy,
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and I was determined
to understand why.
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I'm in San Diego, man.
I'm going down to look
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at what's happening
with the Navy.
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They have a target,
I think, that's 50 percent
renewable energy.
340
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And it turns out
that Ray Mabus...
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he's the Secretary
of the Navy...
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is behind a lot of this.
343
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And I was able to wrangle
an interview with him today.
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The ship you're standing on,
the America,
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is a hybrid.
Okay. Ah.
346
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The Marines, at the height
of the fighting in Afghanistan,
347
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were losing one Marine,
killed or wounded,
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for every 50 convoys
of fuel that came in,
guarding those fuels.
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That's too high
a price to pay.
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So if you can
make energy...
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solar, wind...
where you are
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and don't
have to have it
brought to you...
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you talk to SEAL commanders
of some of these teams,
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this one guy said,
"You know, we turned off
the generator...
355
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"and all of a sudden
we could hear.
356
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We could hear
when people were trying
to sneak up on us."
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And he said that generator
running all the time,
358
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it was like a bull's-eye.
"Come on over here."
Yeah. Yeah.
359
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"We're here!"
"This is where we are."
360
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Right.
It makes us
better fighters.
361
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Yeah.
Now it's got
some great collateral...
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lowers our carbon footprint,
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it makes us better stewards
of the environment.
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The Department of Defence
is the largest single user
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of fossil fuels
in the world,
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Navy and Marine Corps
about 40 percent of that.
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By no later
than 2020, at least half
of all our energy,
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afloat and ashore, will come
from non-fossil fuel sources.
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We're going to be there
on shore, on our bases
by the end of this year.
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No. No!
We'll be
five years early. Yeah.
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We're a sea-going service,
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00:20:01,810 --> 00:20:04,600
but we own
3.5 million acres
of land,
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and we have
117,000 buildings.
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So we use a little bit
of energy on shore too.
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But the next step
is to do microgrids
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so that if something happens
to the big grid,
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we can pull ourselves off
and still do our military job.
378
00:20:23,470 --> 00:20:25,930
- Welcome to the bridge, sir.
- Is this progress at risk
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of being rolled back
by political process
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or do you feel like...
381
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that there's this
sort of straight course
moving forward?
382
00:20:34,220 --> 00:20:38,770
I hope and I believe
that it's becoming
the new normal.
383
00:20:38,770 --> 00:20:42,140
DOD put in its
quadrennial defence review
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that energy was
a national security priority.
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It's a whole
of the federal government,
386
00:20:48,770 --> 00:20:53,390
but it's also, America
is changing the way
it views energy.
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00:20:53,390 --> 00:20:56,310
America is
changing the way
it uses energy.
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00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,020
Was America really changing?
389
00:21:00,020 --> 00:21:03,520
As it turned out,
the answer was hiding
in plain sight,
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00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,520
right in the middle
of Central Texas.
391
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,180
You know,
when you think of Texas,
392
00:21:22,180 --> 00:21:24,390
you think of oil derricks,
you think of gas.
393
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:28,060
So, here's this little city
that goes a hundred
percent green.
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We're the second city
in the country
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to go a hundred percent green.
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00:21:31,140 --> 00:21:33,930
Burlington, Vermont
was the first.
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Our duty
to our rate payers
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is to provide
the lowest-cost energy.
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00:21:38,890 --> 00:21:41,930
When we compared wind
and solar to natural gas,
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00:21:41,930 --> 00:21:45,600
wind and solar
was about equal,
401
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,810
but the providers would
give us guaranteed contracts
402
00:21:48,810 --> 00:21:50,810
for 25 years
on wind and solar,
403
00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:55,020
and natural gas providers
was only for six years.
404
00:21:55,020 --> 00:21:58,220
So that made it...
the decision pretty easy.
405
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,640
Do people see
solar and wind as,
406
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,560
"Oh no, it's going
to ruin our way of life,
407
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,350
our legacy,
and our history"?
408
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:09,470
Or do they just say,
"Hey, man, more energy"?
409
00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:11,140
When you do something
new and different,
410
00:22:11,140 --> 00:22:15,680
if it involves change,
I think some people
get concerned.
411
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,520
They just want
to make sure that it works,
412
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,770
and it doesn't
impact them negatively.
413
00:22:19,770 --> 00:22:21,600
And in the job markets, uh,
414
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,310
I mean, we're still doing tons
of oil and gas in Texas.
415
00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:27,890
Right.
Well, you'd just use it
for other sources
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00:22:27,890 --> 00:22:30,180
other than making
electricity.
417
00:22:30,180 --> 00:22:33,600
Us good Republicans
don't like to raise taxes.
418
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,020
And so we're doing
all kinds of wonderful things
419
00:22:36,020 --> 00:22:37,730
and the tax rate's
staying the same.
420
00:22:37,730 --> 00:22:40,560
And so I'm spending money
like a Democrat. Okay?
421
00:22:43,020 --> 00:22:46,980
But it's okay,
because you have to invest
in these things in Georgetown.
422
00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:49,100
We do have
a banker on here.
Yeah.
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00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,600
He's a good friend
of mine and sometimes
I just cuss at him.
424
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,600
And I'm going, "Look,
what the fuck do you want"
425
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,770
"your legacy to be
a hundred years from now?
426
00:22:55,770 --> 00:22:58,180
"That you cut
the tax rate by a penny?
427
00:22:58,180 --> 00:23:00,640
You want that
on your tombstone? Really?"
428
00:23:02,430 --> 00:23:04,640
I didn't run
on small ideas,
429
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,980
and I didn't run
to go cut ribbons.
430
00:23:06,980 --> 00:23:11,680
I ran to make
a change in my community
in a meaningful way.
431
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,350
And what we need to do now
is we need to spend money.
432
00:23:15,850 --> 00:23:18,930
If we don't spend money
right now in this economy,
433
00:23:18,930 --> 00:23:21,600
what, we're going
to spend money
434
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,930
when we go back
in a recession? No!
435
00:23:23,930 --> 00:23:27,020
Oh.
We got to spend
the money now.
436
00:23:27,020 --> 00:23:28,470
Money.
437
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,640
Lots of it in the Bay Area
these days.
438
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,180
And more and more
of it's headed towards
clean energy products.
439
00:23:38,020 --> 00:23:40,560
Quick Rack is
fully tested and...
440
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,680
Hydro-helio.
That sounds good.
441
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,640
So it's designed
as a giant LEGO.
442
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,180
You build it
as modular as you want.
443
00:23:47,180 --> 00:23:49,680
This got my attention
'cause it reminds me
of the Good Humour truck.
444
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,020
I expect to open that
and see some ice cream
or something.
445
00:23:52,020 --> 00:23:53,470
There's some beer in there,
no ice cream.
446
00:23:53,470 --> 00:23:57,470
But it's a DC refrigerator,
so just solar direct into it.
447
00:23:57,470 --> 00:23:58,930
I love the model.
448
00:23:58,930 --> 00:24:01,520
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, "No drought
going on here."
449
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,350
Oh, I knocked over
your powerline!
450
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:04,980
Okay.
Holy cow.
Call the system.
451
00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:06,850
Be careful, these are
high voltage, yeah?
Yeah.
452
00:24:06,850 --> 00:24:09,100
There is so many options here.
453
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,350
I'm totally
freakin' overwhelmed.
454
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,520
You have 60 seconds
to pitch your idea
455
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,430
to an investor industry exec
that is sitting in front of you,
456
00:24:18,430 --> 00:24:20,060
and then entrepreneurs
457
00:24:20,060 --> 00:24:22,390
will get up and move
to the chair to your right.
458
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:24,890
So this is like
solar speed dating.
459
00:24:26,890 --> 00:24:30,890
We've never met I don't think.
I certainly know your name.
I know who you guys are.
460
00:24:30,890 --> 00:24:34,140
Is that a fully integrated
solution or are you just
selling the batteries?
461
00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:36,020
It's a fully integrated
solution.
462
00:24:36,020 --> 00:24:40,100
With our software platform,
we just want to sell and support
as much of it as possible.
463
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:43,060
That would be an awesome...
They're not going to be
developing their own...
464
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,890
In 47 states, by next year,
solar will be as cheap
465
00:24:48,890 --> 00:24:51,140
if not cheaper than fossil fuel.
466
00:24:51,140 --> 00:24:53,390
Forty-seven.
Forty-seven states.
467
00:24:53,390 --> 00:24:54,890
Who are those three?
468
00:24:54,890 --> 00:24:56,390
Well, there's actually...
Alaska?
469
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:59,270
...five states
including Florida,
where solar still is illegal.
470
00:24:59,270 --> 00:25:02,560
So... I know. Crazy.
Wow.
471
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,600
And they're just missing out.
It's like, at this point,
472
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,100
why wouldn't you...
Yeah.
473
00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:08,560
...when it's, you know,
creating more jobs
than Google, Apple,
474
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,430
Facebook, and Twitter
combined in the US?
475
00:25:10,430 --> 00:25:12,600
That's how many people
the solar industry employs.
476
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,770
Where are the jobs?
What's going on?
477
00:25:14,770 --> 00:25:17,600
So unlike fossil fuel
where it's all top-down
and centralized,
478
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,470
it's inherently decentralized,
it's distributed,
479
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:23,640
and it democratizes
energy production
and consumption.
480
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,850
And that requires a lot of jobs,
that requires a lot of hands.
481
00:25:25,850 --> 00:25:28,980
One nuclear power plant
only needs so many people
to operate it.
482
00:25:28,980 --> 00:25:33,310
Mini microgrids
on homes around the country
requires a lot of labour.
483
00:25:33,310 --> 00:25:36,600
Solar used
to be about hardware,
it was about panels.
484
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,640
It was technological,
and now we're moving
485
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,350
to the place
where it's psychological.
486
00:25:40,350 --> 00:25:42,140
It's about how to change
minds and hearts,
487
00:25:42,140 --> 00:25:44,640
and give people
a choice in where
their energy comes from.
488
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,850
And the companies that are
up here today are doing that.
489
00:25:46,850 --> 00:25:49,980
They're using software
and finance to make solar
490
00:25:49,980 --> 00:25:52,810
the most abundant
and affordable energy
resource in the world.
491
00:25:52,810 --> 00:25:54,980
Well, thank you so much
for taking the time.
You're welcome.
492
00:25:54,980 --> 00:25:56,560
Do you go off
at the end of this evening
493
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,220
like a lot of people
that have conventions
494
00:25:58,220 --> 00:26:00,220
and party it up,
do something fun, or what?
495
00:26:00,220 --> 00:26:02,980
Of course. I hope we're going
to Solar Battle of the Bands.
What happens?
496
00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:04,140
That's my plan.
497
00:26:08,890 --> 00:26:15,640
♪ Come sunrise,
putting power on the grid ♪
498
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,810
So, clean energy products
seem to be moving
499
00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:19,850
off the shelves
at a good pace.
500
00:26:19,850 --> 00:26:22,930
But who was actually making
these products and where?
501
00:26:22,930 --> 00:26:26,020
As it turned out,
the largest solar panel
manufacturing plant
502
00:26:26,020 --> 00:26:29,850
in the western hemisphere
had just broken ground
in Buffalo, New York.
503
00:26:39,770 --> 00:26:43,520
Put that on.
There you go, and it's got
that Velcro...
504
00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:47,140
All right,
we going to go four-wheeling?
505
00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:49,640
Yeah, I figured
you were ready for it.
All right, good.
506
00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:54,850
This 88-acre parcel
is what will now host
507
00:26:54,850 --> 00:26:58,520
the SolarCity
panel manufacturing facility.
508
00:26:59,470 --> 00:27:02,060
But the state said,
"We will finance
509
00:27:02,060 --> 00:27:04,270
"the construction
of the building,
510
00:27:04,270 --> 00:27:06,850
"and we will also finance
the baseline equipment
511
00:27:06,850 --> 00:27:08,930
"that you need to function
within that building.
512
00:27:08,930 --> 00:27:10,850
And you'll be our tenants
in that building."
513
00:27:10,850 --> 00:27:14,890
SolarCity said,
"What you've got going
in Buffalo sounds great,
514
00:27:14,890 --> 00:27:19,140
"but you're thinking
about building a 225,000
square-foot structure.
515
00:27:19,140 --> 00:27:23,890
We want to do a 1.2 million
square-foot structure."
Whoa!
516
00:27:23,890 --> 00:27:27,600
Almost overnight,
Buffalo was made
517
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,060
one of the centers
of the solar industry
518
00:27:30,060 --> 00:27:32,020
in the United States,
if not the world.
519
00:27:33,890 --> 00:27:36,140
When my parents were born
and raised in the '30s,
520
00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:40,270
even with the Depression,
Buffalo was a mighty
industrial community.
521
00:27:40,270 --> 00:27:43,350
It had all the steel mills
and all the other manufacturing
facilities.
522
00:27:44,350 --> 00:27:45,890
They saw it
all starting to fall apart.
523
00:27:45,890 --> 00:27:47,390
We really saw it fall apart.
524
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,770
This facility will put
more people to work...
525
00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:54,060
approximately 3,000 people...
526
00:27:54,060 --> 00:27:56,680
than the steel plant
that once sat here,
527
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,390
that actually
polluted the community,
that we're still dealing with.
528
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,730
All we've ever wanted is
to have a community again,
529
00:28:11,730 --> 00:28:14,270
like what our parents
took for granted.
Yeah.
530
00:28:14,270 --> 00:28:17,730
That it's vibrant,
vital, sustainable...
531
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:20,640
hip. You know?
Yeah, yeah.
532
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,810
And it's got all that.
533
00:28:21,810 --> 00:28:23,770
♪ East Coast, where you at?
Let me get... ♪
534
00:28:23,770 --> 00:28:26,430
Buffalo, a city
on the rebound,
535
00:28:26,430 --> 00:28:28,100
economically for sure.
536
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:29,770
But it didn't seem
to stop there.
537
00:28:29,770 --> 00:28:32,350
The social fabric
was rebounding as well,
538
00:28:32,350 --> 00:28:35,020
and renewable energy
was no small part of it.
539
00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:43,470
PUSH Buffalo.
540
00:28:43,470 --> 00:28:46,310
Basically they're about creating
541
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:49,640
sort of energy-independent
affordable housing.
542
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,730
The idea being,
making their own power,
543
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:54,470
they're conserving,
making it affordable.
544
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:56,930
So, I got to check
with these folks.
545
00:28:56,930 --> 00:28:58,060
Well, PUSH stands
546
00:28:58,060 --> 00:29:00,310
for People United
for Sustainable Housing.
547
00:29:00,310 --> 00:29:02,680
It came about in 2005.
548
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,850
They are
a non-profit organization.
549
00:29:04,850 --> 00:29:06,310
What do you call this?
550
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:09,310
This is basically
a small area
551
00:29:09,310 --> 00:29:12,560
that we're taking care of,
doing green infrastructure
on the west side of Buffalo.
552
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,100
Most of the people
that garden here...
553
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:16,220
Solar as a sector is killing
554
00:29:16,220 --> 00:29:18,180
the rest of the economy
with job creation,
555
00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:19,730
so we know that there's
potential there,
556
00:29:19,730 --> 00:29:21,140
and we want to bring
that potential home
557
00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:22,390
to roost here
in the neighbourhood.
558
00:29:22,390 --> 00:29:25,180
We want that rebound
to include everybody.
559
00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:27,640
What's your favorite thing?
Mmm, banana.
560
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,850
- Banana?
- Ah.
561
00:29:29,850 --> 00:29:31,850
When did you start actually
working on houses?
562
00:29:31,850 --> 00:29:34,350
We did. So, yeah,
I think right when
the organization started,
563
00:29:34,350 --> 00:29:36,890
one of the co-founders
bought a property
564
00:29:36,890 --> 00:29:38,220
in the neighbourhood here.
565
00:29:38,220 --> 00:29:41,100
We actually put together
some local tradespeople,
like Eddie,
566
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,020
and put him to work
on that first house
that was purchased,
567
00:29:44,020 --> 00:29:47,520
kind of a volunteer brigade
that rehabbed it
on a shoestring budget.
568
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,600
From there, you know,
we went after funding
569
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,890
with our state
affordable housing agencies,
some charitable foundations.
570
00:29:53,890 --> 00:29:57,270
By the end of this year,
we'll have 60 units
571
00:29:57,270 --> 00:29:59,520
of affordable housing occupied.
572
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,140
As you see,
the gutter system here
573
00:30:04,140 --> 00:30:07,020
runs down to our
rain garden back here.
574
00:30:08,980 --> 00:30:10,220
And as you can see,
575
00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:12,520
we have solar panels
top of this house.
576
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,520
And what you don't see is
up under the panelling here,
577
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,560
we have radiant
floor heating,
578
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,520
which will also help save
money on your heating bills.
579
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,560
The south face of the roof,
there's a solar thermal system,
580
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,180
and that provides
all the domestic hot water
in the house.
581
00:30:29,180 --> 00:30:32,520
So anytime
Maxine draws water
for a bath,
582
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,020
that water has been
preheated by the sun.
583
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:41,060
It's very cool in here.
Yes, the way that it's made,
584
00:30:41,060 --> 00:30:43,060
we got radiant floors.
585
00:30:43,060 --> 00:30:44,350
Right. So, okay.
586
00:30:44,350 --> 00:30:45,430
So that's what I got
to remember.
587
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:48,140
Like, having a floor
that's got mild
588
00:30:48,140 --> 00:30:50,930
or just sort
of 60-degree water
589
00:30:50,930 --> 00:30:52,890
will keep it from getting
too cold in the winter,
590
00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:55,680
but in the summer
that's going to keep you cool.
591
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,100
Yes. Yes.
It goes both ways.
592
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:59,350
So does it take much
from you?
593
00:30:59,350 --> 00:31:00,850
Do you have to do
anything or is it...
594
00:31:00,850 --> 00:31:02,430
or are they just sort
of doing their own thing
595
00:31:02,430 --> 00:31:03,770
on your roof,
the solar panels?
596
00:31:03,770 --> 00:31:06,270
They do... I don't have
to do nothing.
597
00:31:06,270 --> 00:31:09,600
Does the electricity
from those panels
go into the grid?
598
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,270
It flows into the grid,
and... and basically,
599
00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:14,560
the amount that flows
is kind of set
600
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,600
against the amount
that Maxine would consume,
601
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,470
and if her system produces
more than she uses,
602
00:31:19,470 --> 00:31:22,100
then she'll get
a credit on her bill.
603
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:25,220
So, what do you hear
from the neighbours?
604
00:31:25,220 --> 00:31:27,640
They want
to know about it.
605
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,430
Tell them how
to get involved 'cause change
just doesn't happen.
606
00:31:32,430 --> 00:31:36,100
It takes a process.
You got to work at it.
607
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:41,470
And PUSH is working hard,
forming relationships
to get things changed.
608
00:31:41,470 --> 00:31:44,350
The state's committed
to this transition,
609
00:31:44,350 --> 00:31:46,680
and we want to make sure
the people are leading that,
610
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,520
and that they have
ownership opportunities,
611
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,520
that they have
ways to redistribute
those economic benefits,
612
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,810
the environmental benefits
right in their neighbourhood.
613
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:59,020
Some people might
be surprised that Buffalo
614
00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:02,520
is now a player
in the new energy economy.
615
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,930
But it's not as surprising
as you might think.
616
00:32:04,930 --> 00:32:07,600
If you drive 20 minutes north,
you'll see a network
617
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,850
of Canadian
and American power plants
618
00:32:09,850 --> 00:32:12,060
making clean energy
from moving water.
619
00:32:15,390 --> 00:32:19,180
Five million cubic feet
every 60 seconds.
620
00:32:19,180 --> 00:32:21,100
If you look
at the word "renewable"
621
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:24,180
and "generating power,"
the one that's killing it
622
00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:26,470
is the one that's been
killing it all along.
623
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,020
Hydroelectric power.
624
00:32:29,980 --> 00:32:32,520
Two million kilowatts
on this side,
625
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,220
two million on that side.
How much power is that?
626
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:37,220
Four million kilowatts,
a whole lot of power!
627
00:32:37,220 --> 00:32:38,930
What can you do
with four million kilowatts?
628
00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:42,350
You can power up
seven states
and two provinces,
629
00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:44,600
which is what
they do with this.
Wow.
630
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,520
So it's a lot
of power.
Yeah.
631
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,100
Stand at the edge
of Niagara Falls,
632
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:54,220
and it's easy
to see the allure
of massive hydropower.
633
00:32:54,220 --> 00:32:58,600
And yet,
this kind of clean energy...
well, it's not so clean.
634
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,220
Hoover Dam,
Grand Cooley Dam,
635
00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:03,730
Garrison Dam...
636
00:33:03,730 --> 00:33:06,680
buried under
their deep waters
are scenic rivers,
637
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,890
historic towns,
sacred Indian lands.
638
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:16,020
If only there was a way
to capture all that hydropower
639
00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:18,100
without so much
destruction, right?
640
00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:22,140
Well, some smart folks
have done just that
641
00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:25,270
amidst the vast farmlands
of Central Oregon.
642
00:33:26,810 --> 00:33:28,100
Look where
we are, right?
643
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,600
I mean, if I was
cruising down this road,
644
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,680
and I went
by this building,
645
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,100
I would say...
646
00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:38,730
flow control,
overflow building,
647
00:33:38,730 --> 00:33:42,810
maybe some
water-quality
monitoring station.
648
00:33:42,810 --> 00:33:46,640
I would have no idea that
that's generating energy.
649
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,680
Yeah, and that's
kind of, you know...
650
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,430
maybe not the whole point,
but one of the points.
651
00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:52,640
To take this
existing infrastructure...
652
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,470
so one important piece
to understand of course,
653
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:58,180
is that the water that you see
coming over that concrete drop
right there,
654
00:33:58,180 --> 00:34:01,560
that is the original
irrigation canal
drop structure.
655
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,850
So if you wipe away
the building itself,
656
00:34:03,850 --> 00:34:07,220
basically that channel
continuing all the way
down stream
657
00:34:07,220 --> 00:34:09,730
has been here, again,
for something like seven
or eight decades.
658
00:34:09,730 --> 00:34:12,810
The design objective
that we have is to basically
659
00:34:12,810 --> 00:34:17,140
be able to come in,
put some power capture
on this... these existing drops,
660
00:34:17,140 --> 00:34:20,140
but do so in a way that,
yeah, doesn't really disturb
the landscape,
661
00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:21,640
that someone
just driving by
662
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,890
would not necessarily
have to know, per Se,
663
00:34:23,890 --> 00:34:27,100
that something had
really changed on the canal
in any particular way.
664
00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:30,810
Our father had the idea
665
00:34:30,810 --> 00:34:34,140
that making ecologically
sustainable hydro
666
00:34:34,140 --> 00:34:36,890
is something
that everyone
can get behind.
667
00:34:36,890 --> 00:34:39,140
He was a sailor
and a pilot,
668
00:34:39,140 --> 00:34:41,310
and he had this idea of,
669
00:34:41,310 --> 00:34:46,100
"What if we could create
a hydropower turbine
670
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:49,770
"that uses
the same kind of concepts
that we use in sailing
671
00:34:49,770 --> 00:34:55,310
where you can scale
to really large power
with low-pressure flow?"
672
00:35:00,430 --> 00:35:04,180
When the electricity
from this unit is sold,
673
00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:06,520
who's buying it
and who gets the dough?
674
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,390
The electricity
from this project specifically
675
00:35:09,390 --> 00:35:11,390
will be purchased
by PacifiCorp,
676
00:35:11,390 --> 00:35:15,270
which is a utility
that has a big footprint
across the Northwest.
677
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:19,220
And the project
itself was actually, uh,
developed in partnership
678
00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:24,520
with the irrigation district,
but was purchased by Apple.
679
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,890
Purchased by them?
680
00:35:27,350 --> 00:35:31,020
So Apple was getting
into the microhydro business?
681
00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:33,180
What was that all about?
682
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:42,100
The Apple Data Center,
683
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:45,430
in the middle
of eastern Oregon.
684
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:47,430
When you think of the iCloud,
685
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:49,100
this is where it all happens.
686
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:52,810
So tell me,
in the grand scheme
of things,
687
00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:54,520
where is Apple
with how much
688
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,930
renewable energy it uses?
689
00:35:55,930 --> 00:35:57,270
So in the United States,
690
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:58,850
every facility
that we have,
691
00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:00,020
every Apple facility
692
00:36:00,020 --> 00:36:02,270
is 100 percent
renewably powered.
693
00:36:02,270 --> 00:36:04,980
Around the world...
Wait a minute,
wait a minute.
694
00:36:04,980 --> 00:36:08,180
Every store?
Every store
in the United States,
695
00:36:08,180 --> 00:36:10,270
every office building
that we have...
696
00:36:10,270 --> 00:36:12,890
of course our big complex,
our home in Cupertino,
697
00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:16,430
but also
in Elk Grove, California,
in Austin, Texas...
698
00:36:16,430 --> 00:36:18,100
a hundred percent
renewably powered.
699
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:21,100
And then our
four data centers,
also a hundred percent.
700
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:24,680
And around the world
we are 87 percent
renewably powered.
701
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,470
You were at the Natel site,
so you know that we don't stop
702
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:31,980
at the conventionally available
sources of energy.
703
00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:35,560
We could buy and we do buy
wind power from the grid
here in Oregon.
704
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,180
Right.
And that's great.
705
00:36:37,180 --> 00:36:39,770
And we actually buy
solar in California,
and that's great.
706
00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:43,890
But when we decided that
we needed a data center
in North Carolina,
707
00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:45,770
if we had gone
with the grid mix,
708
00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:48,640
we would've been using
a significant amount
of electricity
709
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,600
from coal or nuclear
or natural gas.
710
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,140
And so what we did
there is we built our
own solar farm.
711
00:36:57,890 --> 00:36:59,470
All right,
let's take a look.
712
00:37:01,810 --> 00:37:03,470
Think about what
a data center is.
713
00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:06,680
It's, you know,
servers working
all the time.
714
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,310
So if we know we're going
to use a lot of power,
715
00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:11,270
if we know how much
that power costs,
716
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:15,140
if we have control over our
source of energy, that's a huge
business advantage for us.
717
00:37:15,140 --> 00:37:18,350
Yeah, because, you know,
you're not subject to the spikes
718
00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:19,930
and the volatile
energy prices,
719
00:37:19,930 --> 00:37:22,350
and you know where it is
and you're making it yourself.
720
00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:27,640
You've got
to be kidding me.
721
00:37:31,060 --> 00:37:33,180
How do I get my hands
around how huge this is?
722
00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:35,470
Let me just put you
in sort of virtual world.
723
00:37:35,470 --> 00:37:39,850
Every single day, hundreds
of billions of iMessages,
724
00:37:39,850 --> 00:37:43,890
billions of photos,
and then millions
of FaceTime chats...
725
00:37:43,890 --> 00:37:46,980
all that has to happen,
it has to happen quickly,
726
00:37:46,980 --> 00:37:49,470
and these are the centers
that make that happen.
727
00:37:49,470 --> 00:37:52,560
Instead of having
to use conventional energy,
728
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,600
brown power,
it's all clean.
729
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,180
You know we're here
in high desert.
730
00:37:57,180 --> 00:37:59,680
There's no air conditioning
in the server rooms.
731
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,020
The facility is cooled
70 percent of the year
732
00:38:03,020 --> 00:38:04,060
with outside air.
733
00:38:04,060 --> 00:38:05,520
Today, it's
a little bit warmer,
734
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,930
but it's cooled with air
running over wet material.
735
00:38:08,930 --> 00:38:10,470
Just evaporative cooling.
736
00:38:11,810 --> 00:38:13,560
There's a high likelihood
that right now
737
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,640
my daughter is FaceTiming
with her boyfriend.
738
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,020
Yeah, I know, my sons too.
Is there any...
739
00:38:19,020 --> 00:38:23,220
What are the chances
that that's happening
in here somewhere?
740
00:38:23,220 --> 00:38:24,640
Pretty likely.
Really?
741
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,520
Pretty likely.
She's on this coast,
742
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,600
that data is moving
through here somewhere.
743
00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:32,520
Is there a moment
in the last decade
744
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,270
in terms of energy,
renewables, and efficiency...
does anything stand out?
745
00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:41,060
Probably five or six years ago
I used to say, "I know
it's going to change,"
746
00:38:41,060 --> 00:38:43,560
because I know
when I talk to young people,
747
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,180
they're not even questioning
that this is happening.
748
00:38:46,180 --> 00:38:50,060
They just understand it,
feel like it's just happening.
749
00:38:57,390 --> 00:38:59,430
Okay, well,
full disclosure here:
750
00:38:59,430 --> 00:39:03,100
I looked into solar panels
for my home over a decade ago,
751
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:04,640
but they were
way more expensive
752
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,270
and less effective
in those days.
753
00:39:06,270 --> 00:39:08,930
And the sales guy?
Well, he just kind
of bugged me.
754
00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:11,310
Come on in!
But after a decade
of improvements,
755
00:39:11,310 --> 00:39:13,640
solar panels have gotten
way more affordable.
756
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,100
And folks like me
who either can't
757
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:18,520
or don't want to fork out
the bucks for panels,
758
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,850
there are now companies
that will put their panels
on your roof
759
00:39:21,850 --> 00:39:26,270
and sell you the electricity,
often for less than you're
currently paying.
760
00:39:26,270 --> 00:39:27,680
What's not to love
about that?
761
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,180
It starts with determining
762
00:39:31,180 --> 00:39:33,600
where the best positioning
is on the house
763
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,060
to get the most
out of your solar panels,
764
00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:37,430
and designing it
from there.
765
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:39,520
So each panel
has its own inverter?
766
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,020
Yeah, if one
of these goes out,
767
00:39:41,020 --> 00:39:42,350
it doesn't affect
the other ones.
768
00:39:42,350 --> 00:39:43,520
The entire system, yeah.
769
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,730
Yeah.
With some of the other...
770
00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:46,520
Sort of like the better kind
of Christmas lights.
771
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,310
Exactly like the better
kind of Christmas lights.
772
00:39:49,310 --> 00:39:50,770
That's... no,
that's exactly what it is.
773
00:39:50,770 --> 00:39:53,010
It doesn't take
the whole system down.
Yeah, uh-huh.
774
00:39:59,980 --> 00:40:01,560
Here I have
this car charger.
775
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,310
Is that charger
actually accessing
776
00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:07,560
the solar-charged electrons
from my roof?
777
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,930
Essentially, once your
system is active,
778
00:40:09,930 --> 00:40:11,770
we are feeding
your house
779
00:40:11,770 --> 00:40:13,470
with solar power.
780
00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:14,520
So your
car charger
781
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,980
will be feeding
off of that,
782
00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:18,470
and your house
will be feeding
off of that.
783
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:20,310
I'm driving
a solar-powered car.
784
00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:21,770
Oh, cool!
785
00:40:21,770 --> 00:40:23,560
That works.
786
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,810
I realized,
"What's the point
of having solar
787
00:40:39,810 --> 00:40:41,890
if you've got
super crappy light bulbs?"
788
00:40:41,890 --> 00:40:47,350
So I'm going
for the overall
upgrade option.
789
00:40:55,770 --> 00:40:59,220
Yeah, just inhaled
some flame retardants.
790
00:40:59,220 --> 00:41:02,060
I'd rather do more than less...
791
00:41:02,060 --> 00:41:05,430
more workouts
instead of less ice cream,
that sort of thing.
792
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:09,560
So the notion
of efficiency has
never really lit me up.
793
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,060
But waste is waste,
794
00:41:11,060 --> 00:41:14,180
and if I was going
to be making clean energy,
why waste it?
795
00:41:17,020 --> 00:41:18,060
- Hey!
- Hey, Jamie.
796
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:19,560
How are you, Brian?
Good, how are you?
797
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,220
Good to see you.
Yeah, good to see
you again.
798
00:41:21,220 --> 00:41:22,220
Yeah.
799
00:41:23,730 --> 00:41:25,390
Give it to me
straight, Doc.
800
00:41:25,390 --> 00:41:26,890
You know, the report's great.
801
00:41:26,890 --> 00:41:28,890
It provides you with a road map
802
00:41:28,890 --> 00:41:31,770
of what you might
be able to do towards,
803
00:41:31,770 --> 00:41:33,560
you know,
energy efficiency
improvements,
804
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,390
comfort, air quality,
everything outlined herein.
805
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:38,180
The building shell,
we have two arenas:
806
00:41:38,180 --> 00:41:40,890
One is the amount of draft,
and one is insulation.
807
00:41:40,890 --> 00:41:45,470
We used the blower door
and that sucked all the air
out of the house,
808
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:49,270
and air starts coming in
from all these other places.
809
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:50,850
Can lights from the top.
810
00:41:50,850 --> 00:41:52,680
Jeez, I never even
thought about that.
811
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,100
Yeah. Supply boots,
that's part of your
heating system.
812
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:59,560
The amount of energy
going into this unit,
813
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,140
only 80 percent of it comes out,
so you're losing 20 cents
on the dollar...
814
00:42:03,140 --> 00:42:06,430
That sounds really bad.
...and you're just dumping
carbon monoxide into the garage.
815
00:42:06,430 --> 00:42:08,140
Oh, that's nice.
816
00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:12,680
Thank you.
So, um, give me
the bottom line, Doc.
817
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,730
What do you think's
the most overt,
818
00:42:14,730 --> 00:42:17,680
simple, obvious,
for-dummies thing to do is?
819
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,930
Turn your temperature down
on your water heater.
820
00:42:19,930 --> 00:42:22,730
Really?
Yeah, that's
the turn of a dial.
821
00:42:22,730 --> 00:42:26,980
That's such good news.
Turn it down to 120,
and you're saving money.
822
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:30,470
It's so easy, isn't it?
Yeah, there's a...
823
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:32,930
there's a long list
of simple stuff and...
824
00:42:32,930 --> 00:42:34,390
Really?
Yeah.
825
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:36,640
Long list,
but simple?
Yeah.
826
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,100
I can deal with that.
Yeah.
827
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,180
So I just finished
my first month
828
00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:44,890
with my panels
on the house,
829
00:42:44,890 --> 00:42:46,980
so I thought
I'd check and see
how it went,
830
00:42:46,980 --> 00:42:48,810
how much
power I made.
And it turns out
831
00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:50,980
I made more
than I needed.
832
00:42:50,980 --> 00:42:55,140
So, that clean energy
went onto the grid
833
00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:57,020
that I didn't need.
834
00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:58,100
Hey, you know what?
835
00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:00,600
Do you know
that we made
more clean...
836
00:43:01,770 --> 00:43:04,180
we made more
clean electrons
837
00:43:04,180 --> 00:43:05,680
than we used last month?
838
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,560
Cool!
Yeah.
839
00:43:11,220 --> 00:43:13,850
You don't seem so excited.
840
00:43:13,850 --> 00:43:15,980
No, it's very exciting.
Good for us.
841
00:43:18,270 --> 00:43:20,890
Come on!
842
00:43:20,890 --> 00:43:22,520
We're like a solar...
843
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,520
we are a solar household.
844
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,390
Yeah, well, that's like...
we're one... one house.
845
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:31,600
Eight billion houses to go.
That's how we're going
to go about it.
846
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,180
Jesus.
847
00:43:35,850 --> 00:43:37,390
What a buzzkill.
848
00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:44,180
Okay, so I was doing
something about my house,
849
00:43:44,180 --> 00:43:47,270
doing something
about my car,
850
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:50,680
but as annoying as it was,
my daughter's point was
not lost on me.
851
00:43:52,220 --> 00:43:54,310
What about everything else?
852
00:43:54,310 --> 00:43:56,180
How are we going
to tie it all together
853
00:43:56,180 --> 00:43:58,560
and make
clean energy work
854
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,270
at the massive scale
that it needs to?
855
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:09,430
Good to see you, Jamie.
856
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:11,390
The cavalry has arrived.
857
00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:13,100
How you doing?
858
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:14,560
I don't know, man.
859
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,680
I don't really understand
how we're ever, you know...
860
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,220
I-I... I see how
we're scaling up the panels,
861
00:44:21,220 --> 00:44:24,140
the centralized,
the microhydro.
862
00:44:24,140 --> 00:44:27,140
But in terms of your...
our everyday life...
Yeah.
863
00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:31,850
...what is the key
to being 100 percent
renewable on the grid then?
864
00:44:31,850 --> 00:44:35,270
What components are
missing right now that...
that need to happen?
865
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:37,100
To be 100 percent
renewable?
Yeah.
866
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:40,470
Energy storage
is an imperative.
That has to happen.
867
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,350
No way around it.
It's weird.
868
00:44:43,350 --> 00:44:45,770
We have storage
for like every form
of commodity.
869
00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:48,060
We don't go out
and pick, every afternoon,
870
00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:50,270
precisely the number
of ears of corn
871
00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:52,180
that will be eaten
that night.
We have silos.
872
00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:54,770
Yes.
You know, and we don't
expect the rain to fall
873
00:44:54,770 --> 00:44:58,470
in precisely
the amount needed for you
to shower tomorrow morning.
874
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:59,850
You know,
we have reservoirs.
Yes.
875
00:44:59,850 --> 00:45:02,600
We don't do that for energy,
for electricity at least,
876
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,100
because it's super,
super, super expensive.
877
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:07,930
But there are
a lot of people
working on this.
878
00:45:07,930 --> 00:45:11,730
On that topic, I presume
at this point you have been
to California ISO?
879
00:45:11,730 --> 00:45:13,810
Umm, no, I...
You followed
the powerlines, right?
880
00:45:13,810 --> 00:45:16,140
No, I did.
I followed the power.
881
00:45:16,140 --> 00:45:18,100
If you've been thinking
about this topic for this long,
882
00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:20,470
this is the traffic cop
of the grid.
883
00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:22,730
We need some system
to be able to make sure
884
00:45:22,730 --> 00:45:24,350
that stuff comes on
and comes off
885
00:45:24,350 --> 00:45:26,220
without wrecking everything.
886
00:45:26,220 --> 00:45:27,980
That's what Cal ISO does.
887
00:45:27,980 --> 00:45:29,980
Everyday in America,
888
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:33,140
hundreds of millions
of dollars worth of electricity
889
00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:35,310
is made, sold, sent and used
890
00:45:35,310 --> 00:45:37,810
through the use
of transmission lines
891
00:45:37,810 --> 00:45:42,560
and relay stations,
otherwise known
as the power grid.
892
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,220
The California
Independent Systems Operator,
893
00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:48,770
or Cal ISO,
is one of five US entities
894
00:45:48,770 --> 00:45:50,560
created to make sure
these grids
895
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,270
run well 24-7,
365 days a year.
896
00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:57,020
This is where California
897
00:45:57,020 --> 00:45:59,020
electricity all comes
together
898
00:45:59,020 --> 00:46:00,310
and sings, right?
That's right.
899
00:46:00,310 --> 00:46:01,390
That's right.
900
00:46:01,390 --> 00:46:03,770
The grid started
over a hundred years ago.
901
00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:06,560
It started small
and it became bigger.
902
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,520
As it became bigger,
someone had to manage it.
903
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,930
But now we've
found that the scale is
even more important.
904
00:46:13,930 --> 00:46:15,890
We have more renewables
on the grid.
905
00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:17,850
And that's really what
we're grappling with.
906
00:46:17,850 --> 00:46:19,430
As we transition this grid
907
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:22,520
from one that's got
traditional power plants on it
908
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,520
to one that's
renewable based,
909
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,520
it may have a few
traditional power plants
to take care of things...
910
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,390
for instance,
when the wind's not blowing
and the sun's not shining.
911
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:34,520
Yeah.
Storage is also going to play
an important part of this too.
912
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,060
You can't shape solar,
you can't shape wind
913
00:46:37,060 --> 00:46:39,560
exactly like you can
a traditional power plant,
914
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,470
but you can supplement it
with storage.
915
00:46:41,470 --> 00:46:44,730
Big sets of batteries
could be used on the system.
916
00:46:44,730 --> 00:46:47,470
Compressed air
can be used for storage.
917
00:46:47,470 --> 00:46:49,220
As renewables
go on the grid,
918
00:46:49,220 --> 00:46:51,060
we have
to open our mind
919
00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:52,770
to how we knit it together.
920
00:46:52,770 --> 00:46:55,810
It's not your parents'
or grandparents' grid anymore.
921
00:46:55,810 --> 00:46:59,140
Right.
As a matter of fact,
several times this Spring,
922
00:46:59,140 --> 00:47:03,560
we had up to 40 percent
of our power was provided
by renewables.
923
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,220
Those kinds of levels
weren't even contemplated
10 years ago.
924
00:47:07,220 --> 00:47:09,430
Really?
Wow, that's amazing.
Yeah.
925
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:11,520
So this tells me
in a nutshell...
926
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,220
I can tell where
the wind is blowing.
927
00:47:13,220 --> 00:47:14,220
It's down south.
928
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:16,520
Are you overseen
by federal or state,
929
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,810
or like what's the authority
above the California ISO?
930
00:47:20,810 --> 00:47:22,470
Everybody's got a boss.
931
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:24,930
In my case, we have
a five-member board.
932
00:47:24,930 --> 00:47:27,600
I think it may make sense
for you to reach out
to one of 'em.
933
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:36,470
Are you Angelina?
Yes, I am.
934
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:38,430
Oh great.
Always.
935
00:47:38,430 --> 00:47:41,730
It took me ages
to even find out
about the ISO.
936
00:47:41,730 --> 00:47:44,600
Why does it seem
so little known?
I'm puzzled.
937
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,180
I mean, it's a huge,
huge organization.
938
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:47,810
It means we're doing
a good job!
939
00:47:47,810 --> 00:47:50,100
The grid is
operating well.
940
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:51,430
There's no outages,
941
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:53,390
and you don't
know that the grid
is there.
942
00:47:53,390 --> 00:47:57,180
I detect an accent.
943
00:47:57,180 --> 00:47:59,140
- I was born in Bulgaria.
- Oh.
944
00:47:59,140 --> 00:48:01,310
I became interested
in energy early on.
945
00:48:01,310 --> 00:48:03,680
I had the fortune
of living in Africa
946
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,140
when I was very young,
grew up with very
little electricity
947
00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:11,470
or very unreliable electricity
where there was electricity.
948
00:48:11,470 --> 00:48:13,220
We returned
back to Bulgaria.
949
00:48:13,220 --> 00:48:16,140
That was another
interesting perception
950
00:48:16,140 --> 00:48:19,640
in terms of energy
and how energy can
form your future.
951
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,270
There was
the Chernobyl accident.
952
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:23,390
An accident has occurred
953
00:48:23,390 --> 00:48:25,810
at the Chernobyl
atomic power plant
954
00:48:25,810 --> 00:48:28,770
as one of the atomic reactors
was damaged.
955
00:48:34,430 --> 00:48:37,180
One of the things you hear
about the argument for nuclear
956
00:48:37,180 --> 00:48:41,020
is people say, "Well,
look, we've got to get
a lot more energy"
957
00:48:41,020 --> 00:48:44,520
"out into the world in order
to meet the demands of...
958
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,520
"of humanity,
and we're never
going to get
959
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,850
that amount of energy created
unless we go nuclear."
960
00:48:50,850 --> 00:48:52,680
I have a very different
point of view.
961
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,730
We don't need to be
recreating nuclear energy
down here on Earth.
962
00:48:56,730 --> 00:48:57,680
We already have the sun.
963
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,560
We have plenty
of nuclear energy
964
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,770
hitting the Earth
every single day.
965
00:49:01,770 --> 00:49:04,850
If we were able to capture
the solar insulation
966
00:49:04,850 --> 00:49:07,350
that hits the globe
every single day,
967
00:49:07,350 --> 00:49:09,220
just for two minutes,
and store it,
968
00:49:09,220 --> 00:49:11,730
we could power
the whole globe
for a year,
969
00:49:11,730 --> 00:49:14,680
even the billion people
who have no electricity
right now.
970
00:49:15,850 --> 00:49:19,430
How do we work
to get to 50, 60, 70, 80,
971
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:21,350
even 100 percent renewable
972
00:49:21,350 --> 00:49:23,730
into the future
and what that time frame
would be?
973
00:49:23,730 --> 00:49:28,930
We believe that the ISOs
are going to be major players
in making that a reality.
974
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:33,730
Finally, I was seeing how
it could all come together,
975
00:49:33,730 --> 00:49:37,100
but I had forgotten
about one little thing:
976
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:38,560
politics.
977
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,890
It's no secret
that folks here
in our valley
978
00:49:40,890 --> 00:49:44,220
are fuming over
the latest change
with solar rates.
979
00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:45,520
They feel cheated after making
980
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,270
an investment in solar energy.
981
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:49,060
And today, hundreds
of those people
982
00:49:49,060 --> 00:49:51,060
made a very clear point
about it.
983
00:49:51,060 --> 00:49:53,520
The original decision
calls for an increased
service charge
984
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,060
for rooftop solar users,
as well as a reduction
985
00:49:56,060 --> 00:49:58,060
in the amount of money
homeowners are reimbursed
986
00:49:58,060 --> 00:50:00,890
for excess power produced
by their solar arrays.
987
00:50:00,890 --> 00:50:03,020
Right now,
people who generate
solar energy
988
00:50:03,020 --> 00:50:05,810
get reimbursed by NV Energy
for what they don't use
989
00:50:05,810 --> 00:50:07,890
at about 11 cents
a kilowatt hour.
990
00:50:07,890 --> 00:50:11,270
That could go down
as far as four cents
a kilowatt hour.
991
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:12,810
I'm here to speak on behalf
992
00:50:12,810 --> 00:50:17,020
of 31,650 petitioners
993
00:50:17,020 --> 00:50:20,930
who are petitioning
the Commission
994
00:50:20,930 --> 00:50:23,270
to retain the current
rate structure.
995
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:26,430
We want solar!
996
00:50:26,430 --> 00:50:28,770
We want solar!
997
00:50:28,770 --> 00:50:31,270
Raise your hand
if you have rooftop solar.
998
00:50:33,390 --> 00:50:34,810
Raise your hand
if you're here
999
00:50:34,810 --> 00:50:37,100
as part
of an environmental
organization.
1000
00:50:40,140 --> 00:50:45,100
We have paid money
in order to do what
they wanted us to do,
1001
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:48,560
and that was
to go alternative energy
and go rooftop solar.
1002
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,640
When are folks
in here afraid
1003
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,810
this is going to start hitting
their pocketbooks directly?
1004
00:50:52,810 --> 00:50:54,430
Right away.
It already has.
1005
00:50:54,430 --> 00:50:56,140
It's not the basic fee
that we care about.
1006
00:50:56,140 --> 00:50:57,270
It's the net metering fee.
1007
00:50:57,270 --> 00:51:00,350
It's what we get
for producing them power.
1008
00:51:00,350 --> 00:51:03,430
I spent $48,000
of my own money
1009
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:06,430
on a solar power system,
no subsidies.
1010
00:51:06,430 --> 00:51:09,390
And we got
the PUC three stooges...
1011
00:51:09,390 --> 00:51:11,470
not elected but appointed
by the governor...
1012
00:51:11,470 --> 00:51:14,520
that are deciding the fate
for the entire state.
1013
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,270
They're basically
ripping us off.
1014
00:51:16,270 --> 00:51:20,470
I think it's...
this is grand theft
in my opinion.
1015
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:25,980
17,255 people have had
their systems commissioned.
1016
00:51:25,980 --> 00:51:27,680
If you give them each
three minutes
1017
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,600
and you allow a half a minute
for them to switch seats,
1018
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:36,390
that's 60,000 minutes,
1,000 hours, 25 weeks
1019
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:40,980
where you would have
to listen to people who really
don't like what you're doing.
1020
00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:44,180
I don't know whether this
is cowardice or convenience,
1021
00:51:44,180 --> 00:51:47,020
but frankly,
it's not leadership.
1022
00:51:47,020 --> 00:51:50,020
They're not going
to be able to sell these homes.
1023
00:51:50,020 --> 00:51:53,180
With all these tariffs
and rate increases
that are going on,
1024
00:51:53,180 --> 00:51:56,220
nobody's going to want to buy
their homes for 20 years,
1025
00:51:56,220 --> 00:51:57,980
so they're stuck
with these homes.
1026
00:51:57,980 --> 00:52:01,560
With these actions,
hundreds of jobs are lost.
1027
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,470
I don't know
how many thousands
of dollars these people...
1028
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:06,350
millions of dollars
these people...
1029
00:52:06,350 --> 00:52:10,770
all of that is done
with your actions.
1030
00:52:10,770 --> 00:52:15,060
There's a big plaque that says
this is a green energy building,
1031
00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:18,520
and you have
special parking
for hybrid cars.
1032
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,220
You are hypocrites!
This is hypocritical!
1033
00:52:24,310 --> 00:52:27,730
Yeah, Mark!
Hello, Commissioners.
1034
00:52:27,730 --> 00:52:31,980
My name is Mark Ruffalo,
and I'm... I'm coming
from New York State
1035
00:52:31,980 --> 00:52:34,220
as a advocate for solar.
1036
00:52:34,220 --> 00:52:39,680
It's a shame that
you are on that screen
and not here today
1037
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,850
because outside
of this building...
1038
00:52:41,850 --> 00:52:43,640
and you should really feel
the energy here...
1039
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,850
there's a thousand
workers out there.
1040
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:53,600
You are the Public
Utility Commission.
1041
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,390
Public! That's first.
1042
00:52:58,350 --> 00:53:00,930
And the actions
you're taking today
1043
00:53:00,930 --> 00:53:03,600
are taking
from the mouths
of the people
1044
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:08,430
and giving it
to a single monopoly utility.
1045
00:53:09,810 --> 00:53:12,140
Well, I take offence
and I'll take notice
1046
00:53:12,140 --> 00:53:14,060
to all of the comments about
1047
00:53:14,060 --> 00:53:16,810
"We don't know
what we're doing.
We didn't do our homework."
1048
00:53:16,810 --> 00:53:19,310
This commission
has been working tirelessly
1049
00:53:19,310 --> 00:53:23,100
not to penalize people
or favour one technology
over the other,
1050
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:27,020
but to create a path forward
for rooftop solar in this state
1051
00:53:27,020 --> 00:53:30,180
that treats
all rate payers fairly.
1052
00:53:30,180 --> 00:53:33,060
Thank you.
That concludes
my questions.
1053
00:53:33,060 --> 00:53:35,890
Commissioner Berkshaw,
do you have any?
1054
00:53:35,890 --> 00:53:38,730
I don't.
Hearing
no additional questions,
1055
00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:40,520
Commissioner Noble,
do you have a motion?
1056
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,680
I would move
that we deny the motions
1057
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:49,220
and issue
the order as memorialized
in the proposed order
1058
00:53:49,220 --> 00:53:53,430
along with the changes
that were discussed today.
1059
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:55,770
- Do I have a second?
- Second.
1060
00:53:55,770 --> 00:53:58,930
- All those in favour say, "Aye."
- Aye.
1061
00:53:58,930 --> 00:54:00,600
The motion carries.
1062
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,140
And that brings us
to agenda item 3A.
1063
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:06,890
Just about five,
10 minutes ago,
1064
00:54:06,890 --> 00:54:08,930
the PUC voted to uphold
1065
00:54:08,930 --> 00:54:10,140
the solar rate hike
1066
00:54:10,140 --> 00:54:11,810
they had previously passed.
1067
00:54:11,810 --> 00:54:14,020
This after opponents came out
en masse today.
1068
00:54:14,020 --> 00:54:15,310
We want solar!
1069
00:54:15,310 --> 00:54:16,430
Well,
the verdict was in,
1070
00:54:16,430 --> 00:54:19,100
and 20,000 existing
solar customers
1071
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:22,560
in Nevada were
officially screwed.
1072
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,020
It seemed like people were
too disappointed to say much.
1073
00:54:26,020 --> 00:54:28,600
Except for one woman,
Debbie Dooley,
1074
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,020
founder of the politically
conservative Green Tea Party.
1075
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,980
From state to state to state,
1076
00:54:35,980 --> 00:54:38,020
I hear the same talking points.
1077
00:54:38,020 --> 00:54:41,680
"Non-solar users
are subsidizing solar users."
1078
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,140
That is totally ridiculous.
I'm a conservative.
1079
00:54:45,140 --> 00:54:48,270
I'm appalled
that fellow conservatives
1080
00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:52,180
are hypocrites when it comes
to free market principles.
1081
00:54:52,180 --> 00:54:54,730
They're willing
to throw principles
out the window
1082
00:54:54,730 --> 00:54:57,730
for the sake of protecting
their financial donors.
1083
00:54:57,730 --> 00:55:02,730
We've always led,
but on energy we're
falling behind,
1084
00:55:02,730 --> 00:55:05,850
because a lot of people
are still entrenched
1085
00:55:05,850 --> 00:55:09,730
in the technologies of the past
that pollute the Earth.
1086
00:55:09,730 --> 00:55:12,100
For more than a century,
1087
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:15,810
Nevada Energy
has been Nevada's
only utility provider.
1088
00:55:15,810 --> 00:55:19,980
In fact, Nevada's
state constitution
grants Nevada Energy
1089
00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:22,770
the right to operate
as a monopoly.
1090
00:55:22,770 --> 00:55:26,350
By providing
consumers a way to make
their own clean power,
1091
00:55:26,350 --> 00:55:30,890
the rooftop solar industry
had found a way to compete,
in spite of that.
1092
00:55:30,890 --> 00:55:33,640
Yet the commission's
recent ruling
1093
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,020
seemed specifically
designed to bring
1094
00:55:36,020 --> 00:55:38,930
the rooftop solar industry
to a screeching halt.
1095
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,890
Of your fleet
that was here prior
1096
00:55:51,890 --> 00:55:53,980
to this announcement
by the PUC...
1097
00:55:53,980 --> 00:55:55,390
is this your full fleet?
1098
00:55:55,390 --> 00:55:57,770
This is our full fleet.
This is every single
truck we have,
1099
00:55:57,770 --> 00:55:59,270
and the reason
that they're all here
1100
00:55:59,270 --> 00:56:01,310
on a Wednesday
at 3:00 p.m.
1101
00:56:01,310 --> 00:56:03,470
is that we're not
doing any installs.
1102
00:56:03,470 --> 00:56:06,100
Everything has
completely shut down.
1103
00:56:11,350 --> 00:56:14,890
This is
where we handle our permits,
schedule our installations.
1104
00:56:14,890 --> 00:56:17,600
And here is actually
where you can see where
our culture was.
1105
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:22,470
These are the faces
of the 6,000 people
1106
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:24,600
who have lost their jobs.
1107
00:56:30,020 --> 00:56:33,680
I've personally been part
of training over 150 people,
1108
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,810
and now,
I mean, this is it.
1109
00:56:37,890 --> 00:56:39,850
If you have a mortgage,
a wife and children...
1110
00:56:39,850 --> 00:56:42,310
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
...you don't just pack up
and say, "Let's go."
1111
00:56:42,310 --> 00:56:45,680
The company
wants me to look at options
for relocating.
1112
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,180
I have kids.
I... It's... I...
1113
00:56:50,180 --> 00:56:52,770
My daughter doesn't want
to move again.
1114
00:56:52,770 --> 00:56:55,470
I don't know
what I'm gonna do.
I don't know.
1115
00:57:06,020 --> 00:57:08,810
I'm telling you, when you see
up close and personal...
1116
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,850
the human toll...
1117
00:57:13,140 --> 00:57:16,180
that bureaucratic
and corporate chess playing
1118
00:57:16,180 --> 00:57:20,020
takes on individuals,
it makes me really mad.
1119
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:24,850
This is yet
another example of...
1120
00:57:24,850 --> 00:57:28,140
the interest of the mighty
against the interest
of the many.
1121
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,220
And that's...
that's upsetting to me.
1122
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,680
Because you know what?
Those kinds of situations
1123
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,680
don't change
without amendments...
1124
00:57:40,810 --> 00:57:43,350
without congressional action,
1125
00:57:43,350 --> 00:57:45,390
without Supreme Court
victories.
1126
00:57:45,390 --> 00:57:50,350
You can't innovate
your way out of the bullshit
that I witnessed today.
1127
00:57:52,980 --> 00:57:55,430
It's going to take... a fight.
1128
00:57:57,810 --> 00:57:59,060
It's just too bad.
1129
00:58:15,060 --> 00:58:19,350
What if we all still burned
whale oil to light our homes?
1130
00:58:19,350 --> 00:58:22,430
What if the whaling industry
had used its money and power
1131
00:58:22,430 --> 00:58:25,270
to bury
Thomas Edison's light bulb?
1132
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:26,980
Well, that didn't happen.
1133
00:58:26,980 --> 00:58:29,930
The light bulb was
just a better product.
1134
00:58:31,140 --> 00:58:33,430
Today we use electricity
much the way we did
1135
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:37,270
when Thomas Edison
invented the electrical grid
over a century ago.
1136
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:41,770
And many powerful
and profitable fossil fuel
and utility companies
1137
00:58:41,770 --> 00:58:44,930
are fighting to keep things
just as they are.
1138
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:47,680
And after what I saw in Nevada,
1139
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,100
it seemed like
it would be unwise
to bet against them.
1140
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:56,060
But then again,
I've never been
very good at betting.
1141
00:59:06,310 --> 00:59:09,470
New at 6:00,
solar companies
and solar customers
1142
00:59:09,470 --> 00:59:10,640
are watching the state capital
1143
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,810
this week as they debate
1144
00:59:11,810 --> 00:59:12,980
the future of a number
1145
00:59:12,980 --> 00:59:14,430
of green energy bills.
1146
00:59:14,430 --> 00:59:18,140
Bill 405 would bring back
those net metering credits
1147
00:59:18,140 --> 00:59:21,810
to 95 percent of what
they were when the industry
was at its peak.
1148
00:59:23,810 --> 00:59:25,600
So just last week,
1149
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,560
I bumped
into one of my advisers.
1150
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,140
He was like, "Jamie,
have you been following
what's going on in Nevada?"
1151
00:59:31,140 --> 00:59:34,930
And I was like,
"Oh God, no. Now what?"
1152
00:59:34,930 --> 00:59:37,270
And he was like,
"No, no, no, no, no.
1153
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:38,850
"All these bills are going
1154
00:59:38,850 --> 00:59:41,430
"through both the Senate
and the Assembly in Nevada.
1155
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:45,270
All these
pro-clean-energy bills."
1156
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:48,770
Needless to say,
I'm... I'm blown away
1157
00:59:48,770 --> 00:59:50,680
to the point
of almost confused,
1158
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,350
because this is
a 180-degree shift
1159
00:59:54,350 --> 00:59:56,680
since... last year.
1160
01:00:04,060 --> 01:00:07,310
Assembly Bill 405
really brings back
1161
01:00:07,310 --> 01:00:09,890
the net metering
and rooftop solar industry.
1162
01:00:09,890 --> 01:00:12,520
What it does is it...
Now is the time to do it.
1163
01:00:17,060 --> 01:00:19,520
It's a fantastic day.
It really is
a fantastic day.
1164
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,520
It feels so great
to be coming and speaking,
1165
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,430
and going,
and coming and coming,
1166
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:25,890
and then to finally have
things to celebrate.
1167
01:00:25,890 --> 01:00:27,390
Give yourselves
a big round of applause.
1168
01:00:27,390 --> 01:00:29,430
Thank you all
for being here.
1169
01:00:29,430 --> 01:00:30,810
Good morning, today is
1170
01:00:30,810 --> 01:00:33,520
a historic milestone
for the Silver State.
1171
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,060
The Nevada legislature passed
1172
01:00:35,060 --> 01:00:38,180
the solar triple crown
of energy bills:
1173
01:00:38,180 --> 01:00:42,270
AB206, SB392, AB405.
1174
01:00:42,270 --> 01:00:45,520
The last week, there's been
a tremendous activity
1175
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,310
in the Nevada legislature
1176
01:00:47,310 --> 01:00:49,520
with renewable
energy bills.
Mm-hmm.
1177
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,640
Could you walk me
through that
1178
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:51,600
from your
point of view?
1179
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,180
I started the first
net metering company
1180
01:00:54,180 --> 01:00:56,270
here in the state
almost 20 years ago.
1181
01:00:56,270 --> 01:00:59,600
I got very familiar
with how the process works
1182
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,060
with the public
utilities commission
and this legislature.
1183
01:01:02,060 --> 01:01:04,980
And when I saw
what happened,
1184
01:01:04,980 --> 01:01:07,560
I had moved on and been
working in the utility world
1185
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,180
and been doing things like that.
1186
01:01:09,180 --> 01:01:11,350
But I... I dropped
everything and...
1187
01:01:11,350 --> 01:01:14,390
and decided to run
for office, because it...
1188
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:17,220
I felt that
it needed to be fixed
in the legislature.
1189
01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:19,600
And so Assembly Bill 405,
1190
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,430
which was one of the bills
I worked on,
1191
01:01:21,430 --> 01:01:24,140
it is a net metering
rooftop solar bill.
1192
01:01:24,140 --> 01:01:27,430
And what it did is
it restored some rates,
1193
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:31,730
and it put into place
a renewable energy consumer's
bill of rights.
1194
01:01:31,730 --> 01:01:34,600
We passed
that out of the senate,
1195
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,310
and we'll send it
to the governor to see
if he can sign it.
1196
01:01:37,310 --> 01:01:40,600
We urge Governor Sandoval
to support these measures
1197
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,430
and bring renewables
back to the state.
1198
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:46,560
You know recently,
I was in another state,
1199
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:51,100
and introduced myself
as someone from Nevada.
1200
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:54,020
And one of the people
in the group commented,
1201
01:01:54,020 --> 01:01:57,020
"What in the world
were you all thinking?"
1202
01:01:57,020 --> 01:02:01,850
Referring to the PUC ruling
in December.
1203
01:02:01,850 --> 01:02:04,310
And I said to them
at that time,
1204
01:02:04,310 --> 01:02:06,770
"We're going
to go back in 2017,
1205
01:02:06,770 --> 01:02:09,140
and we're going to fix it."
And guess what?
1206
01:02:09,140 --> 01:02:13,100
We came back in 2017,
and we fixed it.
1207
01:02:15,810 --> 01:02:19,270
We have more sunshine in Nevada
than they have heat in Hell.
1208
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:21,730
And it's a sin
if we don't do
something with it.
1209
01:02:21,730 --> 01:02:24,350
I mean, really?
We do...
1210
01:02:24,350 --> 01:02:27,140
320-some days
of sunshine.
1211
01:02:27,140 --> 01:02:29,810
So was there
a public outcry
1212
01:02:29,810 --> 01:02:32,640
after the utility
commission decision?
1213
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,060
I mean, does the average Nevadan
even know about any of this?
1214
01:02:36,060 --> 01:02:38,680
Here's what I will say.
In talking to my constituents,
1215
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,770
there's one issue...
one issue that was present,
1216
01:02:42,770 --> 01:02:44,730
every door
that I knocked on.
1217
01:02:44,730 --> 01:02:47,730
'Cause that's how I...
I ask people for their vote.
I go to them.
1218
01:02:47,730 --> 01:02:52,060
Every door I knocked on,
every one of them... energy.
1219
01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:53,600
"Why don't we have solar?"
1220
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,220
There are more people
who are concerned
1221
01:02:56,220 --> 01:03:00,220
about what we're
leaving to our children
and our grandchildren.
1222
01:03:00,220 --> 01:03:02,020
There are more people
who are concerned
1223
01:03:02,020 --> 01:03:06,390
about the economic disadvantage
of being on the grid.
1224
01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:08,020
And the more
that happens
1225
01:03:08,020 --> 01:03:10,270
and as the adoption
rate increases,
1226
01:03:10,270 --> 01:03:11,640
more people say,
"I want it."
1227
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,930
Expanding investments
in renewable energy,
1228
01:03:14,930 --> 01:03:18,270
Nevada has the potential
to bring billions of dollars
1229
01:03:18,270 --> 01:03:23,680
to the state's economy
and create tens of thousands
of additional jobs by 2030.
1230
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,390
I think that our state
is uniquely positioned
1231
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:29,060
to take advantage
of renewable energy.
1232
01:03:29,060 --> 01:03:30,730
I mean, just the amount
of land we have,
1233
01:03:30,730 --> 01:03:33,470
the amount of sunshine
we have,
1234
01:03:33,470 --> 01:03:35,810
the resources,
the transmission...
1235
01:03:35,810 --> 01:03:39,850
I mean, we are
in a great position to take
advantage of those things.
1236
01:03:39,850 --> 01:03:43,020
So when you start
making the argument
that it's an economic model,
1237
01:03:43,020 --> 01:03:48,470
that shifts the conversation
to where a lot more...
1238
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:51,180
maybe traditional Republicans
can certainly get on board.
1239
01:03:51,180 --> 01:03:54,220
Have you seen evidence
of this growth in renewables
1240
01:03:54,220 --> 01:03:58,560
being very real here
in Nevada in terms
of economic activity?
1241
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,810
We'll have the most
electrified highway system
in the nation here shortly.
1242
01:04:02,810 --> 01:04:04,930
Meaning that
you will not have to worry
1243
01:04:04,930 --> 01:04:07,020
about where you can
plug in your vehicle,
1244
01:04:07,020 --> 01:04:10,470
if it's an electric vehicle,
from... from here
1245
01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:13,140
to all through the rurals,
all the way to Las Vegas.
1246
01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:14,770
And that's in partnership
with Tesla,
1247
01:04:14,770 --> 01:04:16,100
it's in partnership
with other folks.
1248
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:18,520
And I think at this point
in the game,
1249
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,930
markets are driving us and...
and companies are demanding
1250
01:04:22,930 --> 01:04:25,930
the need for renewables.
They want to be green.
1251
01:04:25,930 --> 01:04:28,390
The session ended
at midnight last night,
1252
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:32,640
and I see in Reuters,
in Forbes, and in some
industry mags, um,
1253
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,810
Tesla, and Sunrun,
and others are hiring
1254
01:04:35,810 --> 01:04:39,390
and have announced
that they're back in Nevada
and they're doing business.
1255
01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:41,680
And so that is...
as a legislator,
1256
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,770
as a Nevadan
and a business person,
1257
01:04:43,770 --> 01:04:46,140
I can't think
of a better outcome.
1258
01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:50,640
It's time for Governor Sandoval
to sign the solar triple crown
of solar bills.
1259
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,680
Let's reclaim
Nevada's rightful place
as a clean energy powerhouse.
1260
01:04:58,810 --> 01:05:01,350
Let's go see a governor
about a signature.
1261
01:05:02,980 --> 01:05:06,310
Two weeks ago, did you think
you'd be standing here today
with this result?
1262
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:13,600
This is the product
of a lot of hard work
and a lot of sacrifice.
1263
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,140
In 2015 when
the PUC decision
came down,
1264
01:05:17,140 --> 01:05:19,850
a lot of businesses
had to lay off employees
1265
01:05:19,850 --> 01:05:22,520
in the timespan
between Christmas
and New Year's.
1266
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,270
These were beloved employees.
They were part of a family.
1267
01:05:26,270 --> 01:05:28,350
And today,
we just made that right.
1268
01:05:28,350 --> 01:05:30,390
We just undid
all of that damage,
1269
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:32,680
and made Nevada
a clean energy leader again.
1270
01:05:34,350 --> 01:05:39,100
It's overwhelming how much
support that there is
1271
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:40,600
for a clean energy economy
1272
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,470
amongst very diverse
segments of Nevada.
1273
01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:46,560
The forces that
are fighting against it,
1274
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,350
they're grasping
to an old way of doing business
1275
01:05:50,350 --> 01:05:53,770
when most other businesses
and most other Nevadans...
1276
01:05:53,770 --> 01:05:56,020
and I think it's true
across our country...
1277
01:05:56,020 --> 01:05:58,810
they want to move forward
with this.
1278
01:05:58,810 --> 01:06:02,180
We're here to deliver letters
to Governor Sandoval.
1279
01:06:02,180 --> 01:06:04,020
It's 7,000 letters
and signatures.
1280
01:06:04,020 --> 01:06:07,560
Nevadans want clean energy,
and we just wanted to go ahead
and let him know.
1281
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,180
It is a moral imperative.
1282
01:06:10,180 --> 01:06:12,770
Everyone, wherever you are,
1283
01:06:12,770 --> 01:06:16,020
whatever your status
or station in life is,
1284
01:06:16,020 --> 01:06:20,350
we all have a responsibility
to address this issue.
1285
01:06:20,350 --> 01:06:23,270
And if Washington
will not...
1286
01:06:24,890 --> 01:06:26,390
we will.
1287
01:06:55,140 --> 01:06:58,350
You know,
I've been thinking back
on that climate march,
1288
01:06:58,350 --> 01:07:00,770
all the people hoping
for action,
1289
01:07:00,770 --> 01:07:02,600
and I wish they knew
what I've learned...
1290
01:07:03,810 --> 01:07:07,600
that this is the dawn
of the clean energy era.
1291
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,600
It's just better,
cheaper, inevitable.
1292
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,600
"When is going to happen?"
you might wonder.
1293
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:17,060
Well, as American citizens,
voters, consumers,
1294
01:07:17,060 --> 01:07:19,890
that's entirely up to us.
1295
01:07:19,890 --> 01:07:21,680
We have what
we need to do this
1296
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:26,350
in our own cities,
our own communities,
our own homes.
1297
01:07:28,270 --> 01:07:30,310
It doesn't matter
who you pray to,
1298
01:07:30,310 --> 01:07:33,640
who you vote for,
where you live,
or how you live.
1299
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,390
There's a good reason
and a good way for you
to connect to clean energy.
1300
01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:40,980
Maybe you don't like
driving around on imported oil
1301
01:07:40,980 --> 01:07:45,730
or maybe
the unpredictable prices
threaten your bottom line.
1302
01:07:45,730 --> 01:07:48,270
When the pipelines leak
and the gas lines explode,
1303
01:07:48,270 --> 01:07:50,980
it always seems to happen
in our struggling communities,
1304
01:07:50,980 --> 01:07:53,270
and maybe you've seen
that happen in yours.
1305
01:07:54,430 --> 01:07:57,560
Or maybe
you accept the science
of climate change.
1306
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,980
And maybe you know
that burning fossil fuels
1307
01:07:59,980 --> 01:08:02,980
sickens over two-million
Americans a year
1308
01:08:02,980 --> 01:08:06,640
with our children
taking the biggest hit.
1309
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,730
Or hey, maybe you just like
the latest technology.
1310
01:08:10,730 --> 01:08:13,430
You see, there's
a story for everyone,
1311
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:15,850
a story that will make you
want do something,
1312
01:08:15,850 --> 01:08:20,350
and the sooner that happens,
the better, for all of us.
1313
01:08:20,350 --> 01:08:22,680
♪ Two rocks, a hammer ♪
1314
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,850
♪ And some chains
to tie my hands ♪
1315
01:08:26,850 --> 01:08:29,020
♪ Two boots,
the dirt, some food ♪
1316
01:08:29,020 --> 01:08:32,890
♪ Some land to dig it in ♪
1317
01:08:32,890 --> 01:08:35,270
♪ I cut the wood, tear down ♪
1318
01:08:35,270 --> 01:08:39,140
♪ Build up for moving in ♪
1319
01:08:39,140 --> 01:08:41,140
♪ A hole, the mud, a pipe ♪
1320
01:08:41,140 --> 01:08:43,520
♪ Look out, I'm... ♪
1321
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,310
♪ Yes ♪
1322
01:08:46,310 --> 01:08:50,270
♪ This is happening ♪
1323
01:08:50,270 --> 01:08:52,890
♪ Every day is another way ♪
1324
01:08:52,890 --> 01:08:57,180
♪ To make things right, oh ♪
1325
01:08:58,390 --> 01:09:01,980
♪ This is happening ♪
1326
01:09:01,980 --> 01:09:04,470
♪ Every day is another way ♪
1327
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:06,560
♪ To make things right ♪
1328
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,180
♪ She's out walking now ♪
1329
01:09:10,180 --> 01:09:12,060
♪ For what's good ♪
1330
01:09:13,310 --> 01:09:15,600
♪ Put her body
on the line ♪
1331
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,850
♪ She's not hiding ♪
1332
01:09:18,770 --> 01:09:20,890
♪ She's out fighting ♪
1333
01:09:22,140 --> 01:09:26,560
♪ Tonight ♪
1334
01:09:28,060 --> 01:09:29,220
♪ Man ♪
1335
01:09:30,220 --> 01:09:34,140
♪ This is happening ♪
1336
01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:36,560
♪ Every day is another way ♪
1337
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,730
♪ To make things right ♪
1338
01:09:39,730 --> 01:09:45,770
♪ You are what's happening ♪
1339
01:09:45,770 --> 01:09:48,020
♪ Every day is another way ♪
1340
01:09:48,020 --> 01:09:50,140
♪ To make things right ♪
1341
01:09:50,140 --> 01:09:52,430
♪ I'm thinking about my friend
now ♪
1342
01:09:53,470 --> 01:09:56,180
♪ What you gotta do somehow ♪
1343
01:09:56,180 --> 01:09:58,890
♪ You're headed back home ♪
1344
01:09:58,890 --> 01:10:01,890
♪ To the eye of the storm ♪
1345
01:10:01,890 --> 01:10:04,640
♪ How you gonna get past it ♪
1346
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,980
♪ Without picking on
the classic ♪
1347
01:10:07,980 --> 01:10:10,810
♪ And throwing out
what's good? ♪
1348
01:10:10,810 --> 01:10:14,980
♪ Are you screaming
at the badness? ♪
1349
01:10:14,980 --> 01:10:17,930
♪ Bridges will fall down ♪
1350
01:10:17,930 --> 01:10:20,980
♪ Walls will build up ♪
1351
01:10:20,980 --> 01:10:24,140
♪ Bridges will fall down ♪
1352
01:10:24,140 --> 01:10:26,640
♪ Walls will build up ♪
1353
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,430
♪ Slow it down ♪
1354
01:10:32,430 --> 01:10:35,980
♪ Can we slow it down? ♪
1355
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:43,470
♪ Now ♪
1356
01:10:44,470 --> 01:10:48,430
♪ This is happening ♪
1357
01:10:48,430 --> 01:10:50,810
♪ Every day is another way ♪
1358
01:10:50,810 --> 01:10:53,980
♪ To make things right ♪
1359
01:10:53,980 --> 01:10:56,680
♪ You and I ♪
1360
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,310
♪ Are what's happening ♪
1361
01:11:00,310 --> 01:11:02,470
♪ Here we are with another day ♪
1362
01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:05,680
♪ To make things right ♪
1363
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,520
♪ Every day is another way ♪
1364
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,430
♪ To make things right ♪
1365
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:14,680
♪ Walls will fall down ♪
1366
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,850
♪ Bridges will rise up ♪
1367
01:11:17,850 --> 01:11:20,520
♪ Walls will fall down ♪
1368
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,020
♪ Bridges will rise up ♪
1369
01:11:23,020 --> 01:11:26,180
♪ Walls will fall down ♪
1370
01:11:26,180 --> 01:11:29,180
♪ People will rise up ♪
1371
01:11:29,180 --> 01:11:32,020
♪ Walls
will
fall down ♪
1372
01:11:32,020 --> 01:11:35,220
♪ Now
people ♪
1373
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:40,060
♪ Will
rise up ♪
1374
01:11:40,060 --> 01:11:42,890
♪ Will
rise up ♪
1375
01:11:42,890 --> 01:11:45,770
♪ Will rise up ♪
1376
01:11:45,770 --> 01:11:48,430
♪ Rise up, rise up ♪
1377
01:11:48,430 --> 01:11:51,430
♪ Rise up, rise up ♪
1378
01:11:51,430 --> 01:11:54,180
♪ Rise up, rise up ♪
1379
01:11:54,180 --> 01:11:57,390
♪ Rise up, rise up ♪
1380
01:11:57,390 --> 01:11:59,640
♪ Rise up, rise up ♪
1381
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,470
♪ Rise up, rise up ♪
1382
01:12:02,470 --> 01:12:05,470
♪ Rise up, rise up ♪
1383
01:12:05,470 --> 01:12:08,430
♪ Rise up, rise up ♪
1384
01:12:08,430 --> 01:12:12,390
♪ Oh, oh, oh, walls
will fall down ♪
1385
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:15,730
♪ Now, people ♪
1386
01:12:29,502 --> 01:12:30,701
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