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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,090 --> 00:00:03,485 In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses 2 00:00:03,487 --> 00:00:05,662 are considered especially heinous. 3 00:00:05,797 --> 00:00:08,233 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 4 00:00:08,268 --> 00:00:11,653 who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad 5 00:00:11,688 --> 00:00:15,002 known as the Special Victims Unit. These are their stories. 6 00:00:31,727 --> 00:00:35,763 Okay, um, this isn't... this isn't what we want. 7 00:00:35,832 --> 00:00:37,565 Why don't we just wait here for a second? 8 00:00:37,633 --> 00:00:39,467 We'll let everyone catch up. 9 00:00:44,507 --> 00:00:48,108 - Are your parents texting you? - No, Lydia. 10 00:00:48,177 --> 00:00:49,376 Lydia Banks? 11 00:00:49,445 --> 00:00:52,446 Yeah. I haven't seen her since she moved to New York. 12 00:00:52,515 --> 00:00:54,348 She said she'd meet us right here. 13 00:00:54,417 --> 00:00:55,883 Ann! 14 00:00:55,952 --> 00:00:57,384 There she is! Lydia! 15 00:00:57,453 --> 00:00:59,189 Oh, my God! 16 00:01:02,258 --> 00:01:03,958 Hey, stranger. Welcome to New York. 17 00:01:04,326 --> 00:01:07,561 Oh, the city is so big. I didn't think you'd find me. 18 00:01:07,630 --> 00:01:09,029 Wow. 19 00:01:09,098 --> 00:01:10,297 Oh, you remember Lucas. 20 00:01:10,366 --> 00:01:13,700 - Of course. Hey. - Hey, Lydia. 21 00:01:13,769 --> 00:01:15,705 So, where to? 22 00:01:18,774 --> 00:01:21,775 Oh, my God. That bartender keeps trying to sell me shots. 23 00:01:21,844 --> 00:01:24,945 He shouldn't be doing that. I'm gonna go say something to him. 24 00:01:25,014 --> 00:01:26,013 How chivalrous. 25 00:01:28,117 --> 00:01:29,783 Lucas is great. 26 00:01:29,852 --> 00:01:32,386 He was the only person I could talk to when you left. 27 00:01:32,454 --> 00:01:35,589 So question: what are you guys? 28 00:01:35,658 --> 00:01:36,957 Excuse me? 29 00:01:37,026 --> 00:01:39,259 Well, are you high school debate or are you model U.N.? 30 00:01:39,328 --> 00:01:40,694 We have a little bet going on. 31 00:01:40,763 --> 00:01:44,331 Neither. She lives here. I'm visiting, doing volunteer work with my church. 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,567 Wow. A church chick. 33 00:01:46,635 --> 00:01:48,735 That is so nice. So you must be a virgin, then. 34 00:01:48,804 --> 00:01:53,804 With a line like that, you definitely are. 35 00:01:54,243 --> 00:01:56,543 We're not interested. 36 00:01:56,612 --> 00:01:58,712 Swing and a miss. 37 00:02:01,417 --> 00:02:04,451 - Jeez. - I forgot how much I missed you. 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,187 Ann, were those guys bothering you? 39 00:02:07,256 --> 00:02:10,290 Uh, Lydia got rid of them. 40 00:02:10,359 --> 00:02:12,926 Well. I see. 41 00:02:12,995 --> 00:02:16,029 Thank you, Lydia. 42 00:02:16,098 --> 00:02:17,598 My pleasure. 43 00:02:23,472 --> 00:02:25,572 - Oh. Hi, Charlotte. - It's 11:00. 44 00:02:25,641 --> 00:02:27,708 Time for lights out. 45 00:02:27,776 --> 00:02:30,444 - Hey. - You know the rules. 46 00:02:30,512 --> 00:02:32,012 No guests in the room. 47 00:02:32,081 --> 00:02:33,614 It was my fault; I just needed to use the bathroom. 48 00:02:33,682 --> 00:02:35,284 But I'm leaving. 49 00:02:36,952 --> 00:02:38,552 I'm sorry. 50 00:02:44,526 --> 00:02:46,093 - Bye. - Bye, Ann. 51 00:02:48,464 --> 00:02:50,030 Lights out. 52 00:02:55,555 --> 00:02:57,587 _ 53 00:03:07,149 --> 00:03:09,182 I just turned the lights out, Charlotte. 54 00:03:09,251 --> 00:03:11,084 I'm getting into... 55 00:03:29,405 --> 00:03:30,771 I'm back. 56 00:03:30,839 --> 00:03:33,840 Charlotte has to be asleep by... 57 00:03:33,909 --> 00:03:35,475 Ann? 58 00:03:37,579 --> 00:03:38,812 Ann, what's wrong? 59 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:43,784 Vic's name is Ann Davenport. 60 00:03:43,852 --> 00:03:47,521 18, part of a visiting church group from Hunter, Indiana. 61 00:03:47,589 --> 00:03:50,357 And she said that she was sexually assaulted in her room. 62 00:03:50,426 --> 00:03:52,192 No, actually, her friend said that. 63 00:03:52,261 --> 00:03:55,362 Lydia Banks, also 18. She's the one who called 911. 64 00:03:55,431 --> 00:03:56,951 Okay, we're gonna need security footage 65 00:03:56,999 --> 00:03:58,320 from the hallway and the elevator. 66 00:03:58,334 --> 00:04:01,034 Key card entry logs. The works. 67 00:04:01,103 --> 00:04:02,903 - Hi. - Hey, are you from SVU? 68 00:04:02,972 --> 00:04:05,372 I am. I'm Lieutenant Benson. This is Detective Tutuola. 69 00:04:05,441 --> 00:04:07,174 - You Lydia? - Yeah. 70 00:04:07,242 --> 00:04:10,844 Uh, Lydia, I need to speak with Ann alone for a moment, okay? 71 00:04:10,913 --> 00:04:14,514 Thank you so much. 72 00:04:14,583 --> 00:04:17,918 So Ann, can you tell me what happened? 73 00:04:17,987 --> 00:04:19,853 I'm not really sure. 74 00:04:19,922 --> 00:04:21,991 You were raped! 75 00:04:24,059 --> 00:04:25,659 Look, she was raped. 76 00:04:25,728 --> 00:04:27,594 She would never let a man have sex with her. 77 00:04:27,663 --> 00:04:29,363 She is... 78 00:04:29,431 --> 00:04:31,431 She is a lesbian. 79 00:05:16,565 --> 00:05:21,565 - sync and corrections by Zac - - www.addic7ed.com - 80 00:05:23,776 --> 00:05:26,190 Look, I don't know what Ann has been telling you, 81 00:05:26,472 --> 00:05:28,071 but the church has brainwashed her. 82 00:05:28,140 --> 00:05:30,574 I mean, they've convinced her that being gay is a sin. 83 00:05:30,642 --> 00:05:33,210 How do you two know each other? 84 00:05:33,278 --> 00:05:34,711 Well, we grew up together. 85 00:05:34,780 --> 00:05:38,682 I got out of Indiana when I turned 16. 86 00:05:38,750 --> 00:05:40,617 We did stay in touch, but tonight's the first time 87 00:05:40,686 --> 00:05:42,352 I've seen her since I moved to New York. 88 00:05:42,421 --> 00:05:44,654 Okay. So what'd you guys do tonight? 89 00:05:44,723 --> 00:05:46,022 Well, we had a drink. 90 00:05:46,091 --> 00:05:48,158 It was just a soda at the bar. 91 00:05:48,227 --> 00:05:50,026 Um... 92 00:05:50,095 --> 00:05:51,416 And then we went back to her room. 93 00:05:51,430 --> 00:05:53,096 Um... 94 00:05:53,165 --> 00:05:54,998 And then the chaperone knocked on the door, 95 00:05:55,067 --> 00:05:57,000 said it was 11:00; it's lights out. 96 00:05:57,069 --> 00:05:59,202 And then Ann, she snuck me her room key 97 00:05:59,271 --> 00:06:02,205 so that I could come back and we could... we could hang out. 98 00:06:02,274 --> 00:06:03,807 How much later? 99 00:06:03,876 --> 00:06:06,109 It was, like, maybe a half hour later. 100 00:06:06,178 --> 00:06:07,544 And, you know, I thought everyone would be asleep, 101 00:06:07,613 --> 00:06:10,981 so I went in and Ann was crying. 102 00:06:11,049 --> 00:06:13,750 And she said that she had been raped. 103 00:06:13,819 --> 00:06:14,985 She used that word? 104 00:06:15,053 --> 00:06:17,020 Basically. I mean, she said, 105 00:06:17,089 --> 00:06:19,958 "He made me. My virtue is gone." 106 00:06:22,027 --> 00:06:24,294 What does that sound like to you? 107 00:06:24,363 --> 00:06:27,430 A few minutes later, I heard a knock at the door. 108 00:06:27,499 --> 00:06:28,665 And I thought it was Charlotte again, 109 00:06:28,734 --> 00:06:29,866 but it wasn't. 110 00:06:29,935 --> 00:06:32,702 Okay. Do you know who it was? 111 00:06:32,771 --> 00:06:35,939 Uh, just a guy. 112 00:06:36,008 --> 00:06:38,942 Okay. Was it somebody that you recognized? 113 00:06:39,011 --> 00:06:42,546 Uhh, it was just dark and I can't... 114 00:06:42,614 --> 00:06:45,182 I can't say. 115 00:06:45,250 --> 00:06:48,351 Okay. So, Ann, did he... did he threaten you 116 00:06:48,420 --> 00:06:49,719 or did he have a weapon? 117 00:06:49,788 --> 00:06:52,122 No, he told me... 118 00:06:52,191 --> 00:06:54,291 He told me to lie down on the bed. 119 00:06:54,359 --> 00:06:57,961 I didn't want to. And then... 120 00:06:58,030 --> 00:07:00,864 But... but I thought I had to. 121 00:07:00,933 --> 00:07:02,499 It's okay. 122 00:07:05,571 --> 00:07:07,637 Can you tell me what happened next? 123 00:07:07,706 --> 00:07:12,342 He pulled my skirt up. 124 00:07:12,411 --> 00:07:14,477 And I said, "No." 125 00:07:14,546 --> 00:07:16,279 And then I tried to fight him off 126 00:07:16,348 --> 00:07:17,948 and then he... 127 00:07:18,016 --> 00:07:20,550 He had... he had sex with me anyway. 128 00:07:20,619 --> 00:07:24,154 And... 129 00:07:24,223 --> 00:07:27,057 I would never have sex with a boy. 130 00:07:27,125 --> 00:07:29,326 - Because you're a lesbian. - No. 131 00:07:29,394 --> 00:07:31,595 No, I'm saving myself for marriage. 132 00:07:31,663 --> 00:07:34,464 I'm a virgin. 133 00:07:34,533 --> 00:07:36,266 - Or I was. - Okay, so what 134 00:07:36,335 --> 00:07:38,868 - Lydia said before... - I'm not. 135 00:07:38,937 --> 00:07:41,505 I mean, I have feelings for Lydia, but I would never act on them. 136 00:07:41,506 --> 00:07:43,373 That's a... that's a sin. 137 00:07:43,442 --> 00:07:47,611 Honey, I need you to listen to me. 138 00:07:47,679 --> 00:07:52,282 If you didn't want to have sex with that boy, 139 00:07:52,351 --> 00:07:55,518 that's rape. 140 00:07:57,823 --> 00:07:59,389 So I'd like to take you to the hospital, 141 00:07:59,458 --> 00:08:01,491 where you can be examined, okay? 142 00:08:06,855 --> 00:08:08,531 _ 143 00:08:08,533 --> 00:08:11,268 So Ann can't tell us who attacked her or she won't? 144 00:08:11,336 --> 00:08:12,702 Well, it's obvious she's traumatized. 145 00:08:12,771 --> 00:08:14,304 It's possible that the perp threatened her. 146 00:08:14,373 --> 00:08:15,653 Or she had sex with a boyfriend 147 00:08:15,674 --> 00:08:18,041 and don't want her girlfriend to know. 148 00:08:18,110 --> 00:08:19,976 I'm not getting that. 149 00:08:20,045 --> 00:08:21,678 - Lieutenant Benson? - Yes. 150 00:08:21,747 --> 00:08:25,215 I'm Reverend Gary Langham. Ann is one of my congregants. 151 00:08:25,284 --> 00:08:26,850 - Let me make this call. - Yeah. 152 00:08:26,918 --> 00:08:28,551 Uh, yes, Reverend. Ann mentioned you. 153 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:31,321 We're worried sick about her. She was sexually assaulted? 154 00:08:31,390 --> 00:08:33,223 - Did she say by who? - No, not yet. 155 00:08:33,292 --> 00:08:36,192 She's actually quite hesitant to tell us what happened. 156 00:08:36,261 --> 00:08:38,828 I can understand that. She's very sheltered. 157 00:08:38,897 --> 00:08:40,764 Is it possible that Ann is involved 158 00:08:40,832 --> 00:08:41,931 with somebody in the group? 159 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,633 Or that she has a boyfriend 160 00:08:43,702 --> 00:08:45,602 - here in New York? - Absolutely not. 161 00:08:45,671 --> 00:08:47,971 Ann is chaste. All of our congregants are. 162 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,773 We don't believe in premarital sex. 163 00:08:49,841 --> 00:08:51,374 I understand. I just had to ask. 164 00:08:51,443 --> 00:08:53,376 I blame myself for this. 165 00:08:53,445 --> 00:08:54,711 I never should have brought her to New York. 166 00:08:54,780 --> 00:08:56,713 She's... she's naive. 167 00:08:56,782 --> 00:08:58,748 She's trusting. 168 00:08:58,817 --> 00:09:01,184 She was obviously taken advantage of by someone. 169 00:09:01,253 --> 00:09:04,487 But you didn't see any... anyone in particular? 170 00:09:04,556 --> 00:09:06,756 Now that you mention it, there were these two boys. 171 00:09:06,825 --> 00:09:08,325 They were drunk. 172 00:09:08,393 --> 00:09:09,659 They were obnoxious. 173 00:09:09,728 --> 00:09:13,063 One was wearing an orange Shark Wear hat. 174 00:09:13,131 --> 00:09:14,597 Okay, that could be very helpful. 175 00:09:17,369 --> 00:09:18,601 This is Ann's parents. 176 00:09:18,670 --> 00:09:20,970 They're getting on a flight here now. 177 00:09:21,039 --> 00:09:22,305 It's not the best light to see New York in 178 00:09:22,374 --> 00:09:24,507 - for the first time. - No. 179 00:09:24,576 --> 00:09:26,276 If you think of anything else, 180 00:09:26,345 --> 00:09:28,345 would you be so kind to give me a call? 181 00:09:28,413 --> 00:09:29,312 - I will thank you. - All right. 182 00:09:29,381 --> 00:09:31,948 Thank you, Reverend. 183 00:09:32,017 --> 00:09:34,884 Reverend, huh? What'd he have to say? 184 00:09:34,953 --> 00:09:37,187 That they're not in Kansas anymore. 185 00:09:38,990 --> 00:09:42,592 NYPD. Open up. 186 00:09:42,661 --> 00:09:44,527 Morning, sunshine. 187 00:09:44,596 --> 00:09:46,029 Know why we're here? 188 00:09:46,098 --> 00:09:49,332 Uh, did the bartender call you? Our IDs weren't fake, I swear. 189 00:09:49,401 --> 00:09:51,534 No, forget about the bartender. Do you recognize this girl? 190 00:09:51,603 --> 00:09:55,205 Hey, wake up. 191 00:09:55,273 --> 00:09:57,640 - No. No, I don't think so. - What about you? Huh? 192 00:09:57,709 --> 00:09:59,642 Maybe from the bar? Uh, oh-oh, yeah. 193 00:09:59,711 --> 00:10:01,544 It's the church chick. 194 00:10:01,613 --> 00:10:03,413 Yeah, the church chick got assaulted last night. 195 00:10:03,482 --> 00:10:05,682 Whoa, whoa. We didn't have anything to do with that. 196 00:10:05,751 --> 00:10:07,191 Her friend shut us down. We bounced. 197 00:10:07,219 --> 00:10:08,551 - You bounced, huh? - Yeah. 198 00:10:08,620 --> 00:10:09,552 Where'd you go after you left the bar? 199 00:10:09,621 --> 00:10:11,254 We crashed. 200 00:10:11,323 --> 00:10:13,056 We saw Billy Joel at the Garden. 201 00:10:13,125 --> 00:10:15,125 And then we missed the last train to Massapequa, 202 00:10:15,193 --> 00:10:17,193 so I used my dad's credit card and I got this room. 203 00:10:17,229 --> 00:10:18,862 Okay, you didn't follow her up here? 204 00:10:18,930 --> 00:10:20,410 - Try to turn a no into a yes? - No, no. 205 00:10:20,465 --> 00:10:22,132 Her boyfriend was hanging around. 206 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,767 - Didn't want any part of that. - Her boyfriend, 207 00:10:23,835 --> 00:10:24,934 - what'd he look like? - Ask the bartender. 208 00:10:25,003 --> 00:10:25,969 He was yelling at him. 209 00:10:26,037 --> 00:10:28,671 Something about shots. 210 00:10:28,740 --> 00:10:30,860 I don't get what they were even doing at a bar anyway. 211 00:10:32,944 --> 00:10:34,744 This guy jumped down my throat. 212 00:10:34,813 --> 00:10:36,045 You know, I didn't know these girls were underage. 213 00:10:36,114 --> 00:10:37,781 Isn't knowing that part of your job? 214 00:10:37,849 --> 00:10:40,617 I was upselling. They were ordering sodas, not tipping. 215 00:10:40,685 --> 00:10:41,951 You know, I gotta eat, too. 216 00:10:42,020 --> 00:10:43,586 All right, all right. That's fine. 217 00:10:43,655 --> 00:10:44,888 And what'd this guy look like? 218 00:10:44,956 --> 00:10:47,223 Clean cut. Tall. Brown hair. 219 00:10:47,292 --> 00:10:48,892 He was polite for being so pissed off. 220 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,361 - Is that the best you can do? - He ran out of cash. 221 00:10:51,430 --> 00:10:53,062 I had to charge a smoothie he ordered to his room. 222 00:10:53,131 --> 00:10:55,365 You got the room number? 223 00:10:55,434 --> 00:10:57,400 Ann's not my girlfriend. She's just my friend. 224 00:10:57,469 --> 00:11:00,069 We go to church together. Is she okay? 225 00:11:00,138 --> 00:11:01,939 You two were at the bar together last night? 226 00:11:01,940 --> 00:11:04,073 - Yeah. And her friend, Lydia. - Did you notice 227 00:11:04,142 --> 00:11:05,975 anybody following her, maybe? 228 00:11:06,044 --> 00:11:08,178 Or, um, I don't know, was Ann flirting with anyone? 229 00:11:08,246 --> 00:11:11,247 No. Ann doesn't flirt. What is this about? 230 00:11:11,316 --> 00:11:14,884 She was assaulted last night in her room. 231 00:11:14,953 --> 00:11:16,519 What? 232 00:11:16,588 --> 00:11:18,087 She said she was assaulted? 233 00:11:18,156 --> 00:11:20,723 That's... is that the word she used? 234 00:11:20,792 --> 00:11:24,060 No. That's what happened. 235 00:11:24,129 --> 00:11:26,629 - It's not. - She was raped. 236 00:11:26,698 --> 00:11:28,097 We're trying to figure out who might have done something 237 00:11:28,166 --> 00:11:29,599 - like this to her. - No. 238 00:11:29,668 --> 00:11:34,037 She wasn't raped. I would never rape anyone. 239 00:11:34,105 --> 00:11:35,738 What are you talking about? 240 00:11:35,807 --> 00:11:39,809 It wasn't rape. It was curative intercourse. 241 00:11:39,878 --> 00:11:42,111 I was... I was saving her soul. 242 00:11:52,147 --> 00:11:53,993 Lucas is my friend. 243 00:11:54,180 --> 00:11:55,870 He was doing what he thought was right. 244 00:11:56,237 --> 00:11:58,376 That's why I couldn't tell you it was him. 245 00:11:58,411 --> 00:12:00,787 - Yeah, we understand. - He told us what he did to you 246 00:12:00,822 --> 00:12:03,511 was... was curative intercourse. 247 00:12:03,546 --> 00:12:07,641 Yes. To cure me of my attraction to Lydia. 248 00:12:07,710 --> 00:12:09,777 Homosexuality is a sin. 249 00:12:09,846 --> 00:12:11,612 I was following God's command. 250 00:12:11,681 --> 00:12:15,883 Really? Okay, but Ann told us that she didn't consent, 251 00:12:15,952 --> 00:12:18,352 that she... she didn't wanna have sex. 252 00:12:18,421 --> 00:12:19,954 No, she... she wanted to. 253 00:12:20,022 --> 00:12:22,823 - She told you this? - She didn't have to. 254 00:12:22,892 --> 00:12:26,460 I know she didn't wanna be a homosexual. 255 00:12:26,529 --> 00:12:27,762 No one does. 256 00:12:27,830 --> 00:12:30,364 You told us that you were a virgin. 257 00:12:30,433 --> 00:12:34,568 So isn't what he did to you also a sin? 258 00:12:34,637 --> 00:12:36,670 Fornication can be forgiven. 259 00:12:36,739 --> 00:12:41,375 It's a small price to pay for the graver sin of homosexuality. 260 00:12:41,444 --> 00:12:43,511 He... he was saving me. 261 00:12:43,579 --> 00:12:45,980 Well, she told us she didn't want you in there 262 00:12:46,048 --> 00:12:48,149 - and that she said no. - Even if she did, 263 00:12:48,217 --> 00:12:50,985 it... it wouldn't have mattered. 264 00:12:51,053 --> 00:12:53,020 Why's that? 265 00:12:53,089 --> 00:12:56,657 Because we're taught not to heed the words of the devil. 266 00:12:56,726 --> 00:12:59,026 Whatever was in his mind, 267 00:12:59,095 --> 00:13:00,795 if you didn't want him to do that... 268 00:13:00,863 --> 00:13:03,531 if you didn't give him consent... 269 00:13:03,599 --> 00:13:05,466 - that's rape. - Mm-mm. 270 00:13:05,535 --> 00:13:06,775 That may be what you believe... 271 00:13:06,836 --> 00:13:09,870 No, it's what I know, honey. That's... that's the law. 272 00:13:12,575 --> 00:13:15,976 But it's not God's law. 273 00:13:16,045 --> 00:13:17,545 It's not rape. 274 00:13:17,613 --> 00:13:20,181 It's not done with hate or anger. 275 00:13:20,249 --> 00:13:21,649 It's done with love. 276 00:13:21,717 --> 00:13:24,585 The world is filled with temptations, 277 00:13:24,654 --> 00:13:28,088 but when a woman feels the full glory of God inside her, 278 00:13:28,157 --> 00:13:29,356 she sees the true path. 279 00:13:29,425 --> 00:13:31,492 The full glory, huh? 280 00:13:31,561 --> 00:13:34,562 Being one with a man, as God intended. 281 00:13:34,630 --> 00:13:38,165 When a woman feels that, she's brought back to God's will. 282 00:13:38,234 --> 00:13:42,770 And understands her role. Ann needed to be saved. 283 00:13:44,941 --> 00:13:48,075 - Liv? - Yeah. Excuse me, Ann. 284 00:13:50,079 --> 00:13:53,581 So, um, this kid is basically confessing. 285 00:13:53,649 --> 00:13:55,316 But in his mind, he forced Ann to have sex with him 286 00:13:55,384 --> 00:13:57,625 - to save her from going to hell. - Okay. Keep him talking. 287 00:13:57,687 --> 00:13:59,720 All right. Also, Ann's parents are here. 288 00:14:01,457 --> 00:14:03,157 - I wanna see my daughter. - And you will. 289 00:14:03,226 --> 00:14:04,959 She's just speaking with our lieutenant right now. 290 00:14:05,027 --> 00:14:06,594 She shouldn't have come on this trip. 291 00:14:06,662 --> 00:14:08,896 - She was assaulted. - Who did this to her? 292 00:14:08,965 --> 00:14:10,431 Have you made an arrest? 293 00:14:10,499 --> 00:14:12,199 Well, we're still investigating. 294 00:14:12,268 --> 00:14:13,701 I don't understand. I mean, how did this happen? 295 00:14:13,769 --> 00:14:15,469 Was it someone at the hotel? 296 00:14:15,538 --> 00:14:16,770 We actually don't think it was a stranger. 297 00:14:16,839 --> 00:14:19,306 Do you... do you guys know Lucas Hull? 298 00:14:19,375 --> 00:14:20,841 - Yes. - Can you describe 299 00:14:20,910 --> 00:14:22,643 his relationship with your daughter? 300 00:14:22,712 --> 00:14:25,145 What do you mean? 301 00:14:25,214 --> 00:14:28,215 Paul. This must have something to do with Lydia Banks. 302 00:14:28,284 --> 00:14:29,917 Excuse me? 303 00:14:29,986 --> 00:14:33,821 Lydia. She tried to lead Ann astray. 304 00:14:33,890 --> 00:14:35,956 Okay, 'cause Ann said she was her friend. 305 00:14:36,025 --> 00:14:38,492 She's a lesbian. 306 00:14:41,631 --> 00:14:43,030 We're taking our daughter home. 307 00:14:43,099 --> 00:14:44,765 We need to deal with this our way. 308 00:14:44,834 --> 00:14:46,794 I understand that, sir. But we are in the middle 309 00:14:46,802 --> 00:14:48,836 of a criminal investigation and we would 310 00:14:48,905 --> 00:14:51,038 very much appreciate your cooperation. 311 00:14:51,107 --> 00:14:54,108 It's the police, Paul. She needs to stay, right? 312 00:14:54,176 --> 00:14:57,611 - Yes, that would be helpful. - I'm just worried about Ann. 313 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,880 Regardless of why this happened, she was traumatized. 314 00:14:59,949 --> 00:15:01,749 - I wanna make sure she's safe. - So do we. 315 00:15:01,817 --> 00:15:04,919 Look, we have had enough of this. 316 00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:08,355 We'll be at the hotel. 317 00:15:08,424 --> 00:15:09,723 What's gonna happen to Lucas? 318 00:15:09,792 --> 00:15:11,425 He committed a crime, Ann. 319 00:15:11,494 --> 00:15:14,128 We can't just pretend it never happened. 320 00:15:14,196 --> 00:15:17,498 Reverend, the police are saying that Ann has... 321 00:15:17,566 --> 00:15:19,300 I know. Just take Ann back to the hotel. 322 00:15:19,368 --> 00:15:22,102 Let me handle the police. 323 00:15:22,171 --> 00:15:23,470 Lieutenant Benson, I've retained 324 00:15:23,539 --> 00:15:25,406 a New York City attorney for Lucas Hull. 325 00:15:25,474 --> 00:15:27,474 And my client's interview is over. 326 00:15:29,211 --> 00:15:30,911 Lucas has a right to counsel, 327 00:15:30,980 --> 00:15:33,180 but he's already confessed to my detectives. 328 00:15:33,249 --> 00:15:35,249 There is nothing to confess to. 329 00:15:35,318 --> 00:15:37,818 - Excuse me? - Lucas had curative intercourse 330 00:15:37,887 --> 00:15:39,353 with Ann Davenport. 331 00:15:39,422 --> 00:15:40,921 It's his right, under the First Amendment. 332 00:15:40,990 --> 00:15:42,270 - His right? - It's an expression 333 00:15:42,291 --> 00:15:44,558 of his and Ann's religious beliefs. 334 00:15:44,627 --> 00:15:46,226 - Okay. - Look, I'm no preacher, 335 00:15:46,295 --> 00:15:48,095 but I know the guy in the sky isn't down with rape. 336 00:15:48,164 --> 00:15:49,596 Yeah, well, neither is the State of New York. 337 00:15:49,665 --> 00:15:52,733 And regardless of his religious beliefs, 338 00:15:52,802 --> 00:15:54,902 Lucas is guilty of sexual assault. 339 00:15:54,971 --> 00:15:57,638 So he won't be going anywhere. 340 00:15:57,707 --> 00:16:00,307 Well, then, I will see you in court. 341 00:16:03,646 --> 00:16:05,412 His lawyer's invoking the First Amendment? 342 00:16:05,481 --> 00:16:07,081 He claims he was trying to cure her 343 00:16:07,149 --> 00:16:08,816 - and the victim does, too. - The victim? 344 00:16:08,884 --> 00:16:11,251 Yeah, she admits that she was raped, 345 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,053 but doesn't wanna press charges because she thinks 346 00:16:13,122 --> 00:16:14,455 the guy did it for the right reasons. 347 00:16:14,523 --> 00:16:16,991 None of that matters. Ann didn't consent. 348 00:16:17,059 --> 00:16:18,579 - It was rape. - Right, but if she really 349 00:16:18,627 --> 00:16:20,327 believes that what he did was curative... 350 00:16:20,396 --> 00:16:22,197 Even if you buy into this demented doctrine, 351 00:16:22,264 --> 00:16:23,931 a patient has the right to refuse care at any time. 352 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,447 Of course, but I'm just saying that given her religious beliefs, 353 00:16:26,469 --> 00:16:29,117 all right, it's more than possible that this kid's defense attorney 354 00:16:29,138 --> 00:16:30,671 is gonna lather that up into consent. 355 00:16:30,740 --> 00:16:32,873 Yeah, I agree. 356 00:16:32,942 --> 00:16:35,109 So we've gotta help Ann see the light, so to speak. 357 00:16:35,177 --> 00:16:38,579 - And how do we do that? - Use your imagination. 358 00:16:38,647 --> 00:16:40,147 Religion has been used to justify everything 359 00:16:40,216 --> 00:16:42,182 from genocide to the war against Christmas. 360 00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:44,885 I'm sure we can twist it in our favor, for once. 361 00:16:44,954 --> 00:16:46,687 Just get her on our side. 362 00:16:52,395 --> 00:16:55,696 - Hey. - There you are. Hi. 363 00:16:55,765 --> 00:16:57,005 My mother thinks I'm napping. 364 00:16:57,066 --> 00:16:59,767 She's afraid I'll go see Lydia. 365 00:16:59,835 --> 00:17:02,169 Oh. Do you wanna see Lydia? 366 00:17:02,238 --> 00:17:05,105 Uh, Lydia's a good person, 367 00:17:05,174 --> 00:17:09,143 even if she's, uh... 368 00:17:09,211 --> 00:17:11,545 Homosexual? 369 00:17:11,614 --> 00:17:15,516 You're a good person too, Ann. 370 00:17:15,584 --> 00:17:18,318 I try to put all this 371 00:17:18,387 --> 00:17:22,022 in God's hands, to have faith. 372 00:17:22,091 --> 00:17:25,292 But God's law and man's law say two different things. 373 00:17:25,361 --> 00:17:27,995 And how do I know what's right? 374 00:17:28,064 --> 00:17:29,763 Maybe you don't need to know. 375 00:17:29,832 --> 00:17:33,700 Maybe... maybe you just need to tell the truth. 376 00:17:33,769 --> 00:17:35,069 The truth. 377 00:17:35,137 --> 00:17:39,740 That... that I have feelings for Lydia or what Lucas did? 378 00:17:39,809 --> 00:17:41,341 Both. 379 00:17:41,410 --> 00:17:43,077 But my lust is a sin. 380 00:17:43,145 --> 00:17:45,679 It's... 381 00:17:45,748 --> 00:17:50,717 Ann, God made you the way you are. 382 00:17:50,786 --> 00:17:55,355 What Lucas did, do you really think that God would condone that? 383 00:17:55,424 --> 00:17:56,757 He hurt you. 384 00:18:01,530 --> 00:18:04,031 You know, I believe in God, too. 385 00:18:08,003 --> 00:18:13,003 And I'm not sure what He has in store for me or for you. 386 00:18:13,976 --> 00:18:15,976 Or for anyone, for that matter. 387 00:18:16,045 --> 00:18:20,080 But... but what I am sure about 388 00:18:20,149 --> 00:18:23,884 regardless of religion, 389 00:18:23,953 --> 00:18:28,522 is that what Lucas did to you was wrong. 390 00:18:30,292 --> 00:18:32,159 Yeah, I know. 391 00:18:48,671 --> 00:18:51,928 Lucas Hull, on the charge of rape in the first degree, 392 00:18:51,930 --> 00:18:53,875 - how do you plead? - Not guilty, Your Honor. 393 00:18:53,944 --> 00:18:56,041 - People on bail? - State requests remand, 394 00:18:56,076 --> 00:18:57,346 given the seriousness of the charge. 395 00:18:57,348 --> 00:19:00,116 The defendant is not a resident, has no ties to the community. 396 00:19:00,184 --> 00:19:01,917 Lucas is from a small town in Indiana. 397 00:19:01,986 --> 00:19:03,919 He has no priors. Given his age 398 00:19:03,988 --> 00:19:05,948 and his lack of resources, he's not a flight risk. 399 00:19:05,957 --> 00:19:07,757 He doesn't even have a passport. 400 00:19:07,825 --> 00:19:10,793 He's only standing here because his religious beliefs 401 00:19:10,862 --> 00:19:12,094 aren't respected by the state. 402 00:19:12,163 --> 00:19:14,630 Save it for trial, Counselor. 403 00:19:14,699 --> 00:19:18,834 Bail is set at $100,000. Cash or bond. 404 00:19:18,903 --> 00:19:20,236 I don't have that kind of money. 405 00:19:20,305 --> 00:19:21,904 We have already started a collection 406 00:19:21,973 --> 00:19:23,574 because the church takes care of its own. 407 00:19:25,476 --> 00:19:30,476 Next case. Docket number 171002496. 408 00:19:32,350 --> 00:19:34,183 I'm pleading with you, Lieutenant. 409 00:19:34,252 --> 00:19:35,818 Don't make my daughter testify. 410 00:19:35,887 --> 00:19:39,121 She will be shunned by the church, our community. 411 00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:41,857 - This is a private matter. - No, it's not, anymore. 412 00:19:41,926 --> 00:19:43,526 A crime has been committed. 413 00:19:43,594 --> 00:19:46,729 So now, unfortunately, this is a public matter. 414 00:19:46,798 --> 00:19:49,298 I don't understand. Why are you making her do this? 415 00:19:49,367 --> 00:19:53,035 I only asked your daughter to tell me the truth. 416 00:19:53,104 --> 00:19:56,072 And she told me that that's something that she valued. 417 00:19:56,140 --> 00:19:58,341 The truth is Lucas Hull tried to save her soul. 418 00:19:58,409 --> 00:20:02,311 The truth is that your daughter was sexually assaulted. 419 00:20:02,380 --> 00:20:04,814 I knew she should never have come to New York. 420 00:20:04,882 --> 00:20:07,717 Now her father is... he can't even bring himself to come here. 421 00:20:07,785 --> 00:20:11,153 Cheryl, Cheryl, please. Let's just go. 422 00:20:11,222 --> 00:20:14,657 They think their secular law takes precedent over God's law. 423 00:20:14,726 --> 00:20:16,126 But they'll find out they're wrong. 424 00:20:22,567 --> 00:20:24,700 I can imagine what that was about. 425 00:20:24,769 --> 00:20:29,769 These people really think that nothing criminal happened. 426 00:20:30,041 --> 00:20:31,907 Never underestimate the power of faith. 427 00:20:31,976 --> 00:20:33,743 Regardless of where it's placed. 428 00:20:33,811 --> 00:20:35,378 Braun won't take a deal. 429 00:20:35,446 --> 00:20:38,180 Yeah, because Reverend Gary won't let him. 430 00:20:38,249 --> 00:20:41,951 If... if Lucas admits that he committed a crime, 431 00:20:42,019 --> 00:20:45,020 then Reverend Gary loses face with his congregation. 432 00:20:45,089 --> 00:20:47,656 Okay, let's go over Ann's testimony one more time. 433 00:20:47,725 --> 00:20:49,325 Make sure that she's consistent. Okay. 434 00:20:49,394 --> 00:20:51,460 You know, he said, she said, God said. 435 00:20:51,529 --> 00:20:54,430 You don't want God to get the last word. 436 00:20:54,499 --> 00:20:56,332 Spoke too soon. 437 00:20:56,401 --> 00:20:59,769 Defense filed a motion to dismiss based on First Amendment protections. 438 00:20:59,837 --> 00:21:03,839 So they're saying that rape is okay if it's done for religious reasons. 439 00:21:03,908 --> 00:21:05,868 Huh. I don't remember reading that in the Bible. 440 00:21:07,412 --> 00:21:09,845 _ 441 00:21:09,847 --> 00:21:12,681 The church to which both Lucas Hull and Ann Davenport 442 00:21:12,750 --> 00:21:16,051 belong holds firm in its belief that homosexuality is sinful 443 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:19,054 and that curative intercourse is the appropriate remedy. 444 00:21:19,123 --> 00:21:20,689 Therefore, there was tacit consent. 445 00:21:20,758 --> 00:21:22,658 This argument is ridiculous. 446 00:21:22,727 --> 00:21:25,327 All religion is ridiculous to the non-believer. 447 00:21:25,396 --> 00:21:27,630 That's the basis for religious discrimination. 448 00:21:27,698 --> 00:21:30,348 In both Cantwell versus Connecticut and Hobby Lobby... 449 00:21:30,350 --> 00:21:32,735 Neither of those cases involved a rape. 450 00:21:32,804 --> 00:21:34,770 Reynolds versus U.S. ruled that the First Amendment protection 451 00:21:34,839 --> 00:21:37,306 did not entitle a person to act on their religious beliefs 452 00:21:37,375 --> 00:21:39,008 in a way that violates the law. 453 00:21:39,076 --> 00:21:40,996 Yeah, but this is not true in People versus Moua, 454 00:21:41,045 --> 00:21:43,512 - a 1985 case. - It's not precedent, Your Honor. 455 00:21:43,581 --> 00:21:46,549 And the judge in that case handed down a reduced sentence. 456 00:21:46,617 --> 00:21:48,117 He didn't nullify the crime, based on a religious argument. 457 00:21:48,186 --> 00:21:50,720 But if you'd like to plead this out, my offer's still on the table. 458 00:21:50,788 --> 00:21:51,821 In the eyes of the Lord... the ultimate judge... 459 00:21:51,890 --> 00:21:53,356 my client is innocent. 460 00:21:53,424 --> 00:21:55,091 So I refuse to let Lucas plead guilty. 461 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,460 Well, with all due respect to the Almighty, 462 00:21:57,529 --> 00:22:00,763 His laws are meaningless when it comes to sexual assault. 463 00:22:00,832 --> 00:22:03,499 Good arguments. I'll let the jury hear them. 464 00:22:03,568 --> 00:22:06,369 Motion to dismiss is denied. 465 00:22:08,373 --> 00:22:11,340 Lieutenant Benson. 466 00:22:11,409 --> 00:22:14,510 Lydia. Lydia, what are you... what are you doing here? 467 00:22:14,579 --> 00:22:17,713 I don't understand. Mr. Barba said that he doesn't need me. 468 00:22:17,782 --> 00:22:20,049 That because of my relationship with Ann, 469 00:22:20,118 --> 00:22:21,184 I could hurt the case. 470 00:22:21,252 --> 00:22:22,919 But nothing happened between us. 471 00:22:22,987 --> 00:22:24,320 I understand that, Lydia. 472 00:22:24,389 --> 00:22:26,923 But it's just... it's not that simple. 473 00:22:26,991 --> 00:22:28,257 Are they gonna try and make it look like 474 00:22:28,326 --> 00:22:30,393 Ann doesn't wanna be gay? 475 00:22:30,461 --> 00:22:32,929 They will use that as part of their defense. 476 00:22:32,997 --> 00:22:36,699 - She won't even call me back. - This has not been easy for her. 477 00:22:36,768 --> 00:22:38,234 She has been focusing on the trial. 478 00:22:38,303 --> 00:22:40,703 It's all my fault. 479 00:22:40,772 --> 00:22:43,973 If Lucas hadn't seen us together, Ann would not have been raped. 480 00:22:44,042 --> 00:22:46,409 Lydia, you are not to blame for this. 481 00:22:46,477 --> 00:22:48,945 Oh, right. 482 00:22:49,013 --> 00:22:52,615 God is. 483 00:22:52,884 --> 00:22:55,017 I have to get inside. I'm sorry. 484 00:22:58,030 --> 00:22:59,889 _ 485 00:22:59,891 --> 00:23:02,091 Even if Ann did believe that her attraction 486 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,926 to women was sinful, 487 00:23:03,995 --> 00:23:05,361 she still has the right to say no. 488 00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:07,696 Lucas Hull and Ann Davenport 489 00:23:07,765 --> 00:23:11,500 both believe that homosexuality is against God's law. 490 00:23:11,569 --> 00:23:15,204 And they both believe that curative intercourse 491 00:23:15,273 --> 00:23:18,073 can help someone to overcome what Ann herself 492 00:23:18,142 --> 00:23:19,475 viewed as a sickness. 493 00:23:19,544 --> 00:23:22,278 Irrespective of religious chatter or sanctimonious phrases, 494 00:23:22,346 --> 00:23:24,380 the case comes down to one simple question: 495 00:23:24,449 --> 00:23:27,450 did Ann Davenport consent to having sex with the defendant? 496 00:23:27,518 --> 00:23:32,518 If the answer is no, that means she was raped. 497 00:23:32,623 --> 00:23:36,859 Lucas knew that Lydia and I were alone in my hotel room. 498 00:23:36,928 --> 00:23:39,995 And he was afraid that I'd give in to temptation. 499 00:23:40,064 --> 00:23:43,165 He said that I needed to feel the full glory 500 00:23:43,234 --> 00:23:46,702 of God's purpose to overcome that lust. 501 00:23:46,771 --> 00:23:48,737 - How did you respond? - I said that I could 502 00:23:48,806 --> 00:23:53,042 resist on my own, that I didn't need him to do that. 503 00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:54,710 And he pushed me on the bed. 504 00:23:54,779 --> 00:23:56,378 And then what happened? 505 00:23:56,447 --> 00:23:59,081 He pulled up my skirt 506 00:23:59,150 --> 00:24:02,718 and he forced himself... 507 00:24:02,787 --> 00:24:05,354 he forced himself inside me. 508 00:24:05,423 --> 00:24:08,824 And I... I said no and tried to fight him off. 509 00:24:08,893 --> 00:24:12,561 But he didn't stop. 510 00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:14,710 When the police showed up, why didn't you tell them 511 00:24:14,765 --> 00:24:17,233 that Lucas had done this? 512 00:24:17,301 --> 00:24:19,268 'Cause I didn't wanna get him in trouble. 513 00:24:19,337 --> 00:24:21,370 He... he was doing what he thought was right. 514 00:24:21,439 --> 00:24:24,373 But you did not consent. 515 00:24:24,442 --> 00:24:26,976 - No. - Thank you, Ann. 516 00:24:27,044 --> 00:24:28,978 Nothing further. 517 00:24:36,721 --> 00:24:40,723 Ms. Davenport, I sympathize with you. 518 00:24:40,791 --> 00:24:45,761 This... this can't be an easy position to be in. 519 00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:48,397 You and Lucas are friends, so when he came to your room, 520 00:24:48,466 --> 00:24:51,600 you didn't scream or cry for help. 521 00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:53,636 - No. - He didn't have a weapon. 522 00:24:53,704 --> 00:24:55,371 - No. - And he didn't prevent you 523 00:24:55,439 --> 00:25:00,109 - from leaving. - No. 524 00:25:00,177 --> 00:25:03,479 - So when your lesbian friend... - Objection. 525 00:25:03,548 --> 00:25:07,249 Sustained. Be careful, Mr. Braun. 526 00:25:07,318 --> 00:25:09,385 When your friend came back to your room, 527 00:25:09,453 --> 00:25:11,253 shortly after Lucas left, 528 00:25:11,322 --> 00:25:13,422 did you tell her that you'd been raped? 529 00:25:13,491 --> 00:25:15,491 No, I... 530 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,027 I was upset. She had asked what happened 531 00:25:18,095 --> 00:25:19,461 and I said that I had sex. 532 00:25:19,530 --> 00:25:22,264 That he made me do it. 533 00:25:22,333 --> 00:25:25,367 Right, but you didn't use the word rape or sexual assault. 534 00:25:25,436 --> 00:25:27,303 You didn't call the police. 535 00:25:27,371 --> 00:25:29,305 In fact, Ms. Banks called the police against your wishes, 536 00:25:29,373 --> 00:25:30,940 - didn't she? - Yes, but... 537 00:25:31,008 --> 00:25:33,742 but she was just trying to help me. 538 00:25:33,811 --> 00:25:35,978 One more question. 539 00:25:36,047 --> 00:25:38,814 Are you in a romantic relationship with Ms. Banks? 540 00:25:38,883 --> 00:25:41,584 - No, I... - Is it possible 541 00:25:41,652 --> 00:25:42,785 that she wanted to be? 542 00:25:42,853 --> 00:25:45,688 That she came back to the room, hoping to seduce you 543 00:25:45,756 --> 00:25:46,989 and when she saw that you'd had sex with Lucas, 544 00:25:47,058 --> 00:25:49,491 - she got upset... - Objection. 545 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,060 A moment, Your Honor. 546 00:25:56,167 --> 00:25:58,500 - Your Honor? - Objection is sustained. 547 00:25:58,569 --> 00:26:00,703 - Mr. Braun, are you with us? - Withdrawn. 548 00:26:00,771 --> 00:26:03,772 However, at this point, Your Honor, I'd like to continue my cross 549 00:26:03,841 --> 00:26:06,175 by admitting the following video evidence 550 00:26:06,243 --> 00:26:07,604 - as exhibit E. - This is the first 551 00:26:07,612 --> 00:26:09,345 - I'm hearing of this. - That's because 552 00:26:09,413 --> 00:26:11,180 we've only just received it. 553 00:26:11,248 --> 00:26:12,982 But it pertains directly to Ms. Davenport's testimony. 554 00:26:13,050 --> 00:26:15,150 Yeah, nice try. I need to review this evidence. 555 00:26:15,219 --> 00:26:16,552 As do I. 556 00:26:16,621 --> 00:26:18,420 Court is in recess. 557 00:26:23,127 --> 00:26:28,097 Ann, I'm sorry this got so complicated that you had to deal with the police. 558 00:26:28,165 --> 00:26:30,966 - I know. - I just... I didn't want you 559 00:26:31,035 --> 00:26:32,668 to have to live a life like that. 560 00:26:32,737 --> 00:26:37,006 - To be damned. - I understand. I do. 561 00:26:37,074 --> 00:26:39,041 Why did you say that you were raped? 562 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,415 Maybe you were confused, Ann. Is that it? 563 00:26:46,484 --> 00:26:50,020 Just overwhelmed with Lydia, 564 00:26:50,022 --> 00:26:51,984 with New York, the police. 565 00:26:52,556 --> 00:26:54,423 Is that why you said you were assaulted? 566 00:26:54,492 --> 00:26:58,127 Yes. Yes, I guess. 567 00:26:58,195 --> 00:27:00,195 Then it's... it's settled. 568 00:27:00,264 --> 00:27:03,198 What happened between the two of you was a blessed event. 569 00:27:03,267 --> 00:27:05,134 Let's pray. 570 00:27:09,507 --> 00:27:11,306 There goes our case. 571 00:27:11,375 --> 00:27:12,941 Man plans, God laughs. 572 00:27:13,010 --> 00:27:15,744 No, there's nothing funny about Reverend Gary. 573 00:27:15,813 --> 00:27:18,013 Or rape... 574 00:27:18,082 --> 00:27:19,782 in the name of religion. 575 00:27:26,962 --> 00:27:29,049 And after they had sex, I counseled them. 576 00:27:29,051 --> 00:27:31,358 I found there was no malice between the two of them. 577 00:27:31,393 --> 00:27:35,237 Ann forgave Lucas and understood that what he had done was right and Godly. 578 00:27:35,272 --> 00:27:37,972 And why did you record this meeting? 579 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,573 Because I knew the state of New York 580 00:27:39,642 --> 00:27:41,942 would not understand or accept our beliefs. 581 00:27:42,011 --> 00:27:45,579 But my obligation lies with the well-being of my congregants. 582 00:27:45,648 --> 00:27:48,615 Lucas should not be made to suffer for saving Ann, 583 00:27:48,684 --> 00:27:51,385 for being a messenger of God's will. 584 00:27:51,454 --> 00:27:52,686 And is it your impression, 585 00:27:52,755 --> 00:27:56,223 as... as Ann's spiritual counselor, 586 00:27:56,292 --> 00:27:59,093 that she wanted to be saved from homosexuality? 587 00:27:59,161 --> 00:28:00,394 Absolutely. 588 00:28:00,463 --> 00:28:02,396 I have no doubt in my mind. 589 00:28:02,465 --> 00:28:03,998 We discussed it on many occasions. 590 00:28:04,066 --> 00:28:05,466 Objection, this is privileged communication 591 00:28:05,534 --> 00:28:07,468 between a clergyman and a congregant. 592 00:28:07,536 --> 00:28:09,370 Ms. Davenport does not waive this privilege. 593 00:28:09,438 --> 00:28:11,238 Sustained. 594 00:28:11,307 --> 00:28:13,674 Reverend, one last question. 595 00:28:13,743 --> 00:28:15,843 As head of the church, is it your belief 596 00:28:15,911 --> 00:28:20,647 that God condones... mandates... curative intercourse? 597 00:28:20,716 --> 00:28:22,850 Yes. 598 00:28:22,918 --> 00:28:25,819 No further questions. 599 00:28:25,888 --> 00:28:29,323 You were not in the hotel room when Ann was assaulted. 600 00:28:29,392 --> 00:28:31,358 - No. - You did not hear 601 00:28:31,427 --> 00:28:34,228 what she said or did not say. 602 00:28:34,296 --> 00:28:35,596 That's correct. 603 00:28:35,664 --> 00:28:38,632 You allege that in your private meeting 604 00:28:38,701 --> 00:28:41,535 after the assault, Ann forgave the defendant. 605 00:28:41,604 --> 00:28:43,771 I'm certain of it. I was there. 606 00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:45,519 You are certain of that. You believe that 607 00:28:45,574 --> 00:28:47,741 she forgave him, that her forgiveness was genuine. 608 00:28:47,810 --> 00:28:49,276 - Absolutely. - Then the defendant 609 00:28:49,345 --> 00:28:51,945 must have done something wrong. 610 00:28:52,014 --> 00:28:55,482 Doesn't granting forgiveness imply a crime... 611 00:28:55,551 --> 00:28:59,820 a transgression that needs to be forgiven in the first place? 612 00:28:59,889 --> 00:29:01,255 - Yes, but... - Yes. 613 00:29:01,323 --> 00:29:03,123 You do not understand our core beliefs. 614 00:29:03,192 --> 00:29:04,958 - You do not understand... - This is not about beliefs! 615 00:29:05,027 --> 00:29:07,127 It's not about God. It's not about homosexuality. 616 00:29:07,196 --> 00:29:08,228 It's about a crime. 617 00:29:08,297 --> 00:29:11,498 It's about a woman who says no and a man rapes her anyway. 618 00:29:11,567 --> 00:29:13,267 - Objection. - Withdrawn. 619 00:29:19,008 --> 00:29:21,341 I waited for Lydia and Charlotte to leave 620 00:29:21,410 --> 00:29:24,378 and then I knocked on Ann's door and she let me in. 621 00:29:24,447 --> 00:29:25,946 And then what happened? 622 00:29:26,015 --> 00:29:27,781 I explained to her why I was there. 623 00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:32,352 What had to happen. What... what God asked of us. 624 00:29:32,421 --> 00:29:34,388 And how did she respond? 625 00:29:34,457 --> 00:29:36,123 She was scared. 626 00:29:36,192 --> 00:29:37,624 I was, too. 627 00:29:37,693 --> 00:29:40,694 Neither of us had done that before and... and we're not married. 628 00:29:40,763 --> 00:29:44,264 But I knew it was my responsibility to free her from sin. 629 00:29:44,333 --> 00:29:47,000 So... so I laid her on the bed. 630 00:29:47,069 --> 00:29:49,803 And did she... did she resist? 631 00:29:49,872 --> 00:29:53,373 She was tense. It wasn't easy. 632 00:29:53,442 --> 00:29:56,343 But I believe she knew what had to happen. 633 00:29:56,412 --> 00:29:59,980 What Reverend Gary and what God wanted us to do. 634 00:30:00,049 --> 00:30:03,550 Lucas, what happened afterwards? 635 00:30:03,619 --> 00:30:05,853 She was crying a little. 636 00:30:05,921 --> 00:30:07,688 She was upset. 637 00:30:07,756 --> 00:30:11,892 I was, too. It was really difficult for the both of us. 638 00:30:11,961 --> 00:30:15,429 And then she told me that she understood why I did it. 639 00:30:15,498 --> 00:30:16,763 And that I should go. 640 00:30:16,832 --> 00:30:20,334 Did she, at any point, say that she had been raped 641 00:30:20,402 --> 00:30:22,469 or that she was going to call the police? 642 00:30:22,538 --> 00:30:25,806 No. Reverend Gary said that Lydia called the police 643 00:30:25,875 --> 00:30:27,708 and that's why they were involved. 644 00:30:27,776 --> 00:30:30,477 And when they came to me, I told them the truth. 645 00:30:30,546 --> 00:30:33,547 Every word of it. 646 00:30:33,616 --> 00:30:35,516 Thank you, Lucas. 647 00:30:41,090 --> 00:30:43,290 Do you consider Ann to be truthful? 648 00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:44,925 Absolutely. 649 00:30:44,994 --> 00:30:46,894 Have you ever known her to lie? 650 00:30:46,962 --> 00:30:49,930 She wouldn't. It's not in her nature. 651 00:30:49,999 --> 00:30:52,766 Can you explain why her testimony 652 00:30:52,835 --> 00:30:55,869 directly refutes yours? 653 00:30:55,938 --> 00:30:58,605 I quote, "He pulled up my skirt, he forced himself inside me." 654 00:30:58,674 --> 00:31:00,440 "I said no, I tried to push him off. 655 00:31:00,509 --> 00:31:03,544 - "He didn't stop." - She didn't lie. 656 00:31:03,612 --> 00:31:04,978 Mm. 657 00:31:05,047 --> 00:31:06,947 She was experiencing a union with God. 658 00:31:07,016 --> 00:31:09,917 It's... it's what happens. It's like Reverend Gary says. 659 00:31:09,985 --> 00:31:12,219 Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 660 00:31:12,288 --> 00:31:15,155 - So she was resisting. - Her demons were resisting 661 00:31:15,224 --> 00:31:18,058 and sometimes, you have to fight through them to save someone. 662 00:31:18,127 --> 00:31:22,129 And if I'm the one that has to pay for it, so be it. 663 00:31:22,198 --> 00:31:24,998 But I love Ann. 664 00:31:27,903 --> 00:31:31,004 I would never want to hurt her. 665 00:31:31,073 --> 00:31:32,506 You did. 666 00:31:38,047 --> 00:31:40,814 - Defense looks happy. - They should be. 667 00:31:40,883 --> 00:31:43,016 Lucas is earnest, sincere, telling the truth. 668 00:31:43,085 --> 00:31:45,686 Are you saying that we lost the jury? 669 00:31:45,754 --> 00:31:47,254 Quite possible. 670 00:31:47,323 --> 00:31:49,003 Well, you're not thinking of taking a deal. 671 00:31:49,024 --> 00:31:51,592 No. They're all complicit. 672 00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:54,895 So when are we gonna go after the real villain? 673 00:31:54,964 --> 00:31:56,496 The Reverend. 674 00:31:56,565 --> 00:31:57,965 You heard Lucas on the stand. 675 00:31:58,033 --> 00:32:00,400 - You saw that video. - We would need to prove 676 00:32:00,469 --> 00:32:02,202 that Gary ordered Lucas to rape Ann. 677 00:32:02,271 --> 00:32:05,639 And Lucas is the only one who can tell us that. 678 00:32:05,708 --> 00:32:07,507 Let me do some digging. 679 00:32:07,576 --> 00:32:11,678 See what I can find out about Lucas and Gary's relationship. 680 00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:16,083 That was Lucas' parents. 681 00:32:16,151 --> 00:32:17,951 Turns out he quit school in the 12th grade. 682 00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:21,622 Spent the next year living with and being home schooled by Gary. 683 00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:24,124 - Did they say why? - Apparently Gary 684 00:32:24,193 --> 00:32:26,760 has special students he looks out for. 685 00:32:26,829 --> 00:32:28,228 Lucas was just one of them, 686 00:32:28,297 --> 00:32:30,931 Studying his faith as Gary's apprentice. 687 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,321 You know, keep him out of trouble. 688 00:32:32,334 --> 00:32:34,001 And what that is, they didn't know. 689 00:32:34,069 --> 00:32:35,736 That could mean anything. 690 00:32:35,804 --> 00:32:38,839 So which one of you guys is gonna call Liv? 691 00:32:38,907 --> 00:32:42,909 This is me delegating, practicing my sergeant skills. 692 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,415 Ahh. Don't keep us in suspense. 693 00:32:48,484 --> 00:32:51,518 Why are we here? I already told you my client's not taking a deal. 694 00:32:51,587 --> 00:32:53,787 What if I were to propose a much better deal? 695 00:32:53,856 --> 00:32:56,323 We don't think your client is the only guilty party here. 696 00:32:56,392 --> 00:32:59,293 - Excuse me? - We want the Reverend. 697 00:32:59,361 --> 00:33:01,395 Lucas, Reverend Gary is the one who told you 698 00:33:01,463 --> 00:33:03,597 that you could cure Ann, correct? 699 00:33:03,666 --> 00:33:05,507 - Wait, wait, don't answer. - He's also the one 700 00:33:05,567 --> 00:33:07,668 who told you and Ann to cover it up and not report it, right? 701 00:33:07,736 --> 00:33:09,469 Guys, where are we going with this? 702 00:33:09,538 --> 00:33:11,238 Lucas, if there are extenuating circumstances, 703 00:33:11,307 --> 00:33:12,973 if the Reverend Gary has some kind of hold on you, 704 00:33:13,075 --> 00:33:16,043 we need to know. It's in your best interest. 705 00:33:16,111 --> 00:33:17,778 I'm not sure what you mean. 706 00:33:17,846 --> 00:33:20,447 We know that you lived with him for a year. 707 00:33:20,516 --> 00:33:22,649 Can you tell us why? 708 00:33:22,718 --> 00:33:24,318 I got into trouble at school. 709 00:33:24,386 --> 00:33:26,586 Okay. 710 00:33:26,655 --> 00:33:28,889 Who decided you should live with Reverend Gary? 711 00:33:28,957 --> 00:33:30,691 He did. 712 00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:34,194 And you do whatever Gary tells you to do, right? 713 00:33:34,263 --> 00:33:36,830 I'm not judging. I grew up in faith, I understand. 714 00:33:36,899 --> 00:33:38,999 When I was a teenager, if a priest told me to jump, 715 00:33:39,068 --> 00:33:40,634 I'd only ask how high. 716 00:33:40,703 --> 00:33:42,869 It was the best thing that could've happened. 717 00:33:42,938 --> 00:33:44,905 I learned so much. 718 00:33:44,973 --> 00:33:47,207 He taught me to trust in God's plan. 719 00:33:47,276 --> 00:33:48,742 You here for trial on rape, that seem like 720 00:33:48,811 --> 00:33:50,677 - part of God's plan to you? - It has to be. 721 00:33:50,746 --> 00:33:52,612 He told you that you had to live with him. 722 00:33:52,681 --> 00:33:55,115 He told you to quit school. 723 00:33:55,184 --> 00:33:56,750 Not just me. There were others. 724 00:33:56,819 --> 00:34:00,420 Okay. So what else did he tell you and the others to do? 725 00:34:00,489 --> 00:34:03,423 Our chores at the house and the church. 726 00:34:03,492 --> 00:34:06,226 He... he made sure that we studied the Scriptures. 727 00:34:06,295 --> 00:34:08,862 He took us to other counties so that we could volunteer 728 00:34:08,931 --> 00:34:10,697 - for their youth programs. - Did he ever ask you 729 00:34:10,766 --> 00:34:12,866 to perform curative intercourse before? 730 00:34:12,935 --> 00:34:16,103 - All right, don't, Lucas. - You don't understand him or us. 731 00:34:16,171 --> 00:34:18,238 He showed me the path to righteousness. 732 00:34:18,307 --> 00:34:22,008 Lucas, look, I'm sure that when he's quoting the Bible, 733 00:34:22,077 --> 00:34:23,977 it sounds like he really knows what he's talking about. 734 00:34:24,046 --> 00:34:26,179 But you gotta trust me, somebody uses God 735 00:34:26,248 --> 00:34:29,116 - as an excuse to commit crimes... - You've got him all wrong. 736 00:34:29,184 --> 00:34:31,385 He told you to assault Ann. 737 00:34:31,453 --> 00:34:34,287 He saw Lydia with her! He knew she was in trouble 738 00:34:34,356 --> 00:34:35,622 - and that we were out of time. - So he ordered 739 00:34:35,691 --> 00:34:37,491 - it specifically... - No, he saved me! 740 00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:40,732 He's not the sinner, I am! It was my penance! 741 00:34:43,532 --> 00:34:46,232 Penance? Penance for what? 742 00:34:53,876 --> 00:34:57,077 Ann didn't just confide in me because we're friends. 743 00:34:57,146 --> 00:34:59,946 We succumbed to the same temptation. 744 00:35:03,285 --> 00:35:05,018 I never... 745 00:35:05,087 --> 00:35:08,688 I never got into any trouble at school. 746 00:35:08,757 --> 00:35:12,694 Reverend Gary caught me one night with a friend. 747 00:35:14,029 --> 00:35:15,662 A boy. 748 00:35:30,028 --> 00:35:32,544 So Lucas is gay? The Reverend caught him? 749 00:35:32,546 --> 00:35:35,284 That's what Lucas said. Once the kid confessed, he couldn't stop talking. 750 00:35:35,286 --> 00:35:36,680 The curative part was supposed to go both ways. 751 00:35:36,682 --> 00:35:37,882 On Lucas and on Ann. 752 00:35:37,950 --> 00:35:39,884 And he agreed to testify against Gary, 753 00:35:39,952 --> 00:35:41,152 maybe enough to charge him as an accomplice. 754 00:35:41,220 --> 00:35:42,720 I found something else. 755 00:35:43,088 --> 00:35:44,822 The church's bank statements. 756 00:35:44,890 --> 00:35:46,657 Lucas said he was paid a monthly stipend of $200. 757 00:35:46,725 --> 00:35:49,026 Yeah, that was for, you know, maintenance, chores. 758 00:35:49,094 --> 00:35:52,129 Maybe, sure, but I found... 759 00:35:52,198 --> 00:35:53,864 I mean, I found disbursements for $200 760 00:35:53,933 --> 00:35:57,067 for half a dozen other kids, going back years. 761 00:35:57,136 --> 00:35:59,096 Lucas did say he wasn't the only kid living there. 762 00:35:59,138 --> 00:36:00,971 If we can prove that any of the other boys 763 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,474 working for Gary got paid for curatively raping someone, 764 00:36:03,542 --> 00:36:05,442 you've got sex trafficking. 765 00:36:05,511 --> 00:36:07,471 Yeah, but we can't know without their cooperation. 766 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,481 Well, Gary doesn't know that. He doesn't know what Lucas told us. 767 00:36:10,549 --> 00:36:13,517 Asset forfeiture laws are very strong under sex trafficking. 768 00:36:13,586 --> 00:36:15,452 Well, the church has a lot to forfeit. 769 00:36:15,521 --> 00:36:17,387 They've got hundreds of thousands earmarked 770 00:36:17,456 --> 00:36:19,156 for missionary work, homeless shelters. 771 00:36:19,225 --> 00:36:20,624 Okay, let's hit this guy where it hurts the most. 772 00:36:20,693 --> 00:36:24,962 Okay, so bring him in and see if Gary really is a man of God. 773 00:36:26,832 --> 00:36:28,165 It's not enough that you turn Ann against me. 774 00:36:28,234 --> 00:36:29,399 You perverted Lucas, too. 775 00:36:29,468 --> 00:36:31,134 You did that all on your own, Gary. 776 00:36:31,203 --> 00:36:33,036 No, I was trying to save their lives. 777 00:36:33,105 --> 00:36:34,972 - Their souls. - They're kids, 778 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,940 with normal sexual desires, but you made them feel like 779 00:36:37,009 --> 00:36:38,108 they had the devil inside them. 780 00:36:38,177 --> 00:36:40,844 They do. And it kills me. 781 00:36:40,913 --> 00:36:42,846 You have no idea how much I love them. 782 00:36:42,915 --> 00:36:45,048 All I want to do is protect them 783 00:36:45,117 --> 00:36:47,017 from the sins of the world, from themselves. 784 00:36:47,086 --> 00:36:50,420 But you... you can't rape the gay out of somebody. 785 00:36:50,489 --> 00:36:52,389 Conversion therapy doesn't work. 786 00:36:52,458 --> 00:36:53,857 But you're never gonna believe that, are you? 787 00:36:53,926 --> 00:36:55,859 Guys, I hope we're not here so you can try to 788 00:36:55,928 --> 00:36:58,095 convince my client that his religious beliefs are criminal. 789 00:36:58,163 --> 00:36:59,730 No. He believes what he believes and we get that. 790 00:36:59,798 --> 00:37:02,599 What you had Lucas do to Ann, that is a crime. 791 00:37:02,668 --> 00:37:04,034 It's sex trafficking. 792 00:37:04,103 --> 00:37:06,003 Sex trafficking. Come on. 793 00:37:06,071 --> 00:37:07,437 Come on? All right. 794 00:37:07,506 --> 00:37:09,139 We found the payments. 795 00:37:09,208 --> 00:37:11,074 Not just to Lucas, but to the others, too. 796 00:37:11,143 --> 00:37:12,876 And I promise you, we're gonna talk 797 00:37:12,945 --> 00:37:14,786 - to every single one of them. - The Lord Himself 798 00:37:14,847 --> 00:37:16,847 sent those children to me to save them. 799 00:37:16,916 --> 00:37:18,682 And you don't have jurisdiction in Indiana. 800 00:37:18,751 --> 00:37:20,217 He's right, we don't. 801 00:37:20,286 --> 00:37:24,082 But the Feds do. And if we call them on an interstate trafficking case, 802 00:37:24,089 --> 00:37:26,957 the first thing they're gonna do is seize all your church's assets. 803 00:37:27,026 --> 00:37:28,926 Every single penny, gone. 804 00:37:28,994 --> 00:37:32,996 I have over 900 congregants who raise money for the poor, 805 00:37:33,065 --> 00:37:34,698 for disaster relief, for missionary work. 806 00:37:34,767 --> 00:37:36,266 - We're good people. - I agree. 807 00:37:36,335 --> 00:37:37,901 Your church has done some good things. 808 00:37:37,970 --> 00:37:39,703 But the road to hell is paved with good intentions. 809 00:37:39,772 --> 00:37:42,306 And the road that we're on right now, 810 00:37:42,374 --> 00:37:45,142 every person you've ever preached to will be tainted. 811 00:37:45,210 --> 00:37:46,209 Everything you've ever built. 812 00:37:46,278 --> 00:37:50,080 Everything that you've ever worked for will vanish. 813 00:37:50,149 --> 00:37:53,417 Unless you make a deal. 814 00:37:53,485 --> 00:37:54,952 You're gonna plead guilty. 815 00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:57,719 You know what? I think we're done here. 816 00:37:59,558 --> 00:38:01,091 Wait. 817 00:38:05,998 --> 00:38:10,567 The people that we help don't deserve this. 818 00:38:10,636 --> 00:38:11,902 My congregation doesn't deserve this. 819 00:38:11,971 --> 00:38:13,503 Reverend, this is blackmail. 820 00:38:13,572 --> 00:38:17,441 No. This is my burden. 821 00:38:17,509 --> 00:38:20,978 This is my church; these are my people. 822 00:38:21,046 --> 00:38:24,481 And if it means I have to sacrifice myself 823 00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:26,850 in order to save them, 824 00:38:26,919 --> 00:38:28,318 then so be it. 825 00:38:35,594 --> 00:38:37,494 He's really going for it. 826 00:38:37,563 --> 00:38:40,063 I'll offer a plea for facilitation. 827 00:38:40,132 --> 00:38:42,299 As long as it stops that church from conspiring to commit rape. 828 00:38:42,368 --> 00:38:44,034 Well, whatever the judge gives him, 829 00:38:44,103 --> 00:38:48,672 it'll give him plenty of time to get right with God. 830 00:38:48,741 --> 00:38:50,807 And Lucas? 831 00:38:50,876 --> 00:38:53,243 He held up his end of the bargain. 832 00:38:53,312 --> 00:38:55,545 Rape three. One to four. 833 00:38:55,614 --> 00:38:58,448 Do you know what the most frightening part of all of this is? 834 00:38:58,517 --> 00:39:00,784 It's that the Reverend actually believes 835 00:39:00,853 --> 00:39:03,053 that he's doing the right thing. 836 00:39:03,122 --> 00:39:05,722 Yeah. So do his congregants. 837 00:39:05,791 --> 00:39:07,658 Which is even more frightening. 838 00:39:15,613 --> 00:39:17,167 _ 839 00:39:17,169 --> 00:39:19,336 How are you? 840 00:39:19,405 --> 00:39:21,304 Okay. 841 00:39:21,373 --> 00:39:23,106 Praying a lot. 842 00:39:24,610 --> 00:39:28,845 Ann, I'm so sorry. 843 00:39:28,914 --> 00:39:32,215 I should've listened. 844 00:39:32,284 --> 00:39:35,719 - But questioning God... - Is wrong, yeah. 845 00:39:35,788 --> 00:39:38,989 Reverend Gary told me that, too. 846 00:39:39,058 --> 00:39:41,058 But... 847 00:39:41,126 --> 00:39:45,729 Maybe we have to decide for ourselves what... what God's saying. 848 00:39:45,798 --> 00:39:47,531 We don't get to decide right from wrong. 849 00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:52,236 That's what you did when I was with Lydia in my hotel room. 850 00:39:52,971 --> 00:39:55,172 I had a choice, and you took it away. 851 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:03,280 Lucas, I forgive you. 852 00:40:03,348 --> 00:40:07,318 But you can't change people. Not like that. 853 00:40:09,621 --> 00:40:13,957 God made us this way. How can we be any less than perfect? 854 00:40:14,026 --> 00:40:18,028 How can love... any love... be wrong? 855 00:40:22,067 --> 00:40:23,800 Ann, it's time to go. 856 00:40:35,481 --> 00:40:37,681 Well, that certainly couldn't have been easy. 857 00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:40,250 No, it wasn't. 858 00:40:40,319 --> 00:40:42,886 So, Ann, what will you do now? 859 00:40:42,955 --> 00:40:45,288 I have some cousins in Denver I'm gonna stay with. 860 00:40:45,357 --> 00:40:46,790 - Figure things out. - Good. 861 00:40:46,892 --> 00:40:50,160 I'm definitely not coming back to New York anymore. 862 00:40:50,229 --> 00:40:51,695 And what about your parents? 863 00:40:51,764 --> 00:40:55,818 They're not ready yet. Maybe they will be one day. 864 00:40:56,535 --> 00:40:58,335 You know, things get better. 865 00:40:58,403 --> 00:41:02,739 They get easier with time. 866 00:41:02,808 --> 00:41:04,207 And with faith. 867 00:41:11,851 --> 00:41:13,762 - sync and corrections by Zac - - www.addic7ed.com - 9999 00:00:0,500 --> 00:00:2,00 www.tvsubtitles.net 66718

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