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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,071 --> 00:00:04,638 The unknown subject we're looking for 2 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:06,807 is a male, most likely in his 20s, 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,177 based on the two victims so far. 4 00:00:09,210 --> 00:00:10,478 But before we go any further, 5 00:00:10,511 --> 00:00:12,080 we need to be clear. 6 00:00:12,113 --> 00:00:14,482 Age is the most difficult variable to predict. 7 00:00:14,515 --> 00:00:16,117 He could be in his 40s. 8 00:00:16,150 --> 00:00:17,818 A very fit 40s. 9 00:00:17,851 --> 00:00:19,653 So our point is, 10 00:00:19,687 --> 00:00:21,622 the profile is a guide only. 11 00:00:21,655 --> 00:00:23,691 It's an investigative tool, 12 00:00:23,724 --> 00:00:25,459 and we need to stress that. 13 00:00:25,493 --> 00:00:28,196 All we have is a series of deductions, 14 00:00:28,229 --> 00:00:29,497 but one of those deductions 15 00:00:29,530 --> 00:00:32,166 is that the unsub knew his victims personally. 16 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,102 Which is why we're delivering the profile to you, 17 00:00:34,135 --> 00:00:36,604 because you also knew the victims. 18 00:00:36,637 --> 00:00:40,241 So, our goal is not to make you uncomfortable 19 00:00:40,274 --> 00:00:41,742 or suspicious. Normally we wouldn't 20 00:00:41,775 --> 00:00:44,278 even give the profile this early, 21 00:00:44,312 --> 00:00:46,280 but you are our best chance 22 00:00:46,314 --> 00:00:48,249 at discovering the identity of-- 23 00:00:48,282 --> 00:00:49,450 Yes? 24 00:00:49,483 --> 00:00:51,352 I have a question for agent Rossi. 25 00:00:51,385 --> 00:00:52,586 Go ahead. 26 00:00:52,620 --> 00:00:54,322 Why did your last book... 27 00:00:54,355 --> 00:00:55,656 Suck so bad? 28 00:00:55,689 --> 00:00:57,325 [laughter] 29 00:00:57,358 --> 00:01:00,661 Uh...well, we're not gonna talk about that now. 30 00:01:00,694 --> 00:01:02,530 Really? that's all I want to talk about. 31 00:01:02,563 --> 00:01:05,299 I mean, you even consider that Tommy Yates was a patsy? 32 00:01:05,333 --> 00:01:07,601 Look, we get it, OK? 33 00:01:07,635 --> 00:01:09,370 You have no reason to trust us. 34 00:01:09,403 --> 00:01:12,240 We're the FBI, and you are the official community 35 00:01:12,273 --> 00:01:14,608 of the Roswell, new Mexico, truthers. 36 00:01:14,642 --> 00:01:17,211 Thanks for not calling us conspiracy theorists. 37 00:01:17,245 --> 00:01:18,812 Well, we know you don't like that term. 38 00:01:18,846 --> 00:01:22,250 While we don't agree with your opinions, a lot of people do. 39 00:01:22,283 --> 00:01:25,719 Like how September 11th was an inside job, 40 00:01:25,753 --> 00:01:29,290 or how vapor trails from jets are poisonous, 41 00:01:29,323 --> 00:01:32,693 or how lizard people are secretly running the government. 42 00:01:32,726 --> 00:01:35,596 Ah-ah-ah! confirmation from the FBI. 43 00:01:35,629 --> 00:01:37,131 You all heard it. 44 00:01:37,165 --> 00:01:40,234 No, no, see that's specifically not what I was... 45 00:01:42,370 --> 00:01:44,638 OK. We need your help 46 00:01:44,672 --> 00:01:46,740 to stop a killer who is hiding in this group. 47 00:01:46,774 --> 00:01:50,478 That's why we are having this here in this legion hall 48 00:01:50,511 --> 00:01:52,146 and not at the police station. 49 00:01:52,180 --> 00:01:53,547 We don't want you to feel surveilled-- 50 00:01:53,581 --> 00:01:56,150 What did you put in my pocket?! 51 00:01:56,184 --> 00:01:57,851 Gun! drop it! 52 00:01:57,885 --> 00:01:58,919 [shouting, screaming] 53 00:01:58,952 --> 00:02:01,822 Drop it! 54 00:02:01,855 --> 00:02:03,791 Prentiss: All right, everybody calm down. 55 00:02:03,824 --> 00:02:06,727 What's your name? 56 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,696 I'm Emily. 57 00:02:08,729 --> 00:02:11,432 Emily Prentiss. It says right here. 58 00:02:11,465 --> 00:02:13,834 The reason I'm asking is so we can have a conversation. 59 00:02:13,867 --> 00:02:15,836 [breathing hard] Doug. 60 00:02:15,869 --> 00:02:17,238 I'm Doug. 61 00:02:17,271 --> 00:02:18,906 Great, Doug. Let's just take a second. 62 00:02:18,939 --> 00:02:20,708 Let's think through the logic of this. 63 00:02:20,741 --> 00:02:22,876 I--I didn't do any of this! 64 00:02:22,910 --> 00:02:24,712 We're not saying you did, 65 00:02:24,745 --> 00:02:27,481 but you are making things worse with that gun. 66 00:02:27,515 --> 00:02:29,717 The reason we asked you here, 67 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:32,753 the only reason, is to listen. That's all. 68 00:02:32,786 --> 00:02:35,889 OK? so just listen. 69 00:02:35,923 --> 00:02:38,659 Listen. Put the gun down. 70 00:02:42,863 --> 00:02:45,766 I know a false flag when I see one. 71 00:02:45,799 --> 00:02:47,668 You bitch! No! 72 00:02:47,701 --> 00:02:48,736 [gunshot] 73 00:03:11,859 --> 00:03:13,861 Captioning made possible by ABC studios, LLC and CBS, Inc. 74 00:03:22,903 --> 00:03:24,305 Garcia: "once you eliminate the impossible, 75 00:03:24,338 --> 00:03:26,240 "whatever remains, no matter how improbable, 76 00:03:26,274 --> 00:03:27,475 must be the truth." 77 00:03:27,508 --> 00:03:29,410 Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. 78 00:03:29,443 --> 00:03:33,281 [door opens] 79 00:03:33,314 --> 00:03:36,650 Can I go home now? 80 00:03:36,684 --> 00:03:40,488 No. We're holding you and your friends for 24 hours. 81 00:03:40,521 --> 00:03:41,722 You're all persons of interest 82 00:03:41,755 --> 00:03:43,357 in a murder investigation. 83 00:03:43,391 --> 00:03:45,693 Murder? what, Doug killed himself. 84 00:03:45,726 --> 00:03:49,430 True. But there are still two other victims to account for. 85 00:03:49,463 --> 00:03:51,499 Now, normally when there's a public suicide, 86 00:03:51,532 --> 00:03:53,534 it's because the suspect is the serial killer 87 00:03:53,567 --> 00:03:55,436 and he's killed himself out of guilt. 88 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:56,737 But we can't prove that yet, 89 00:03:56,770 --> 00:04:00,474 so, our investigation is still open. 90 00:04:00,508 --> 00:04:02,643 He said this whole thing was a false flag, 91 00:04:02,676 --> 00:04:04,678 which means he thought you were trying to frame him. 92 00:04:04,712 --> 00:04:06,847 I know what a false flag is. 93 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,682 The FBI doesn't frame people. 94 00:04:08,716 --> 00:04:11,685 What, not anymore? 95 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:15,956 You know, all of your friends have lawyered up. 96 00:04:15,989 --> 00:04:18,726 Called us Nazis, or both. 97 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:20,060 But you haven't. 98 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:21,429 So? 99 00:04:21,462 --> 00:04:22,796 So that tells me you want to get 100 00:04:22,830 --> 00:04:27,034 to the bottom of this just as much as we do. 101 00:04:27,067 --> 00:04:29,603 Do you know what a podcast is? 102 00:04:29,637 --> 00:04:31,372 I do. 103 00:04:31,405 --> 00:04:33,073 Well, I have one. 104 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:34,808 So if we're actually gonna do this, 105 00:04:34,842 --> 00:04:36,444 you give me back my phone 106 00:04:36,477 --> 00:04:37,811 and I record our conversation 107 00:04:37,845 --> 00:04:40,548 for my podcast, 'cause I'm not talking to you 108 00:04:40,581 --> 00:04:43,551 without documenting everything. 109 00:04:43,584 --> 00:04:46,420 You want this on the record? 110 00:04:46,454 --> 00:04:48,522 Of course. I want this on the record. 111 00:04:48,556 --> 00:04:50,658 Otherwise I'm lawyering up with all my friends. 112 00:04:50,691 --> 00:04:52,960 So what do you say? 113 00:04:56,797 --> 00:04:58,466 Prentiss: The answer's no. 114 00:04:58,499 --> 00:05:00,368 I think we should consider it. 115 00:05:00,401 --> 00:05:02,703 No. She will control the audio. 116 00:05:02,736 --> 00:05:03,937 She can twist your words, 117 00:05:03,971 --> 00:05:06,340 edit them to make the bureau look bad. 118 00:05:06,374 --> 00:05:08,342 We already look bad. 119 00:05:08,376 --> 00:05:09,643 The brass is gonna want to know 120 00:05:09,677 --> 00:05:12,380 how and why Doug killed himself in front of us. 121 00:05:12,413 --> 00:05:13,581 Yeah, and that's my ass, 122 00:05:13,614 --> 00:05:14,848 but I'm not making this situation worse 123 00:05:14,882 --> 00:05:16,984 than it already is. 124 00:05:17,017 --> 00:05:19,720 Garcia, have we confirmed that this truther's even legit? 125 00:05:19,753 --> 00:05:21,722 Garcia: Of course I've confirmed that, and she is. 126 00:05:21,755 --> 00:05:26,660 Melissa miller has a pretty popular truther podcast, 127 00:05:26,694 --> 00:05:29,062 especially around Roswell. 128 00:05:29,096 --> 00:05:30,931 She promotes all kinds of conspiracies, 129 00:05:30,964 --> 00:05:34,502 but her cause celebre is staged shootings. 130 00:05:34,535 --> 00:05:36,904 So she thinks the reason we have gun violence, 131 00:05:36,937 --> 00:05:38,439 it's been faked by the government 132 00:05:38,472 --> 00:05:41,709 as a pretext to revoke the second amendment. Nice. 133 00:05:41,742 --> 00:05:43,611 It's another reason not to do this. 134 00:05:43,644 --> 00:05:46,547 Or it's the exact reason to do this. 135 00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:49,617 What was tonight, other than a staged shooting, 136 00:05:49,650 --> 00:05:51,952 and why is she the only one willing to cooperate? 137 00:05:51,985 --> 00:05:53,821 Unsubs like to insert themselves 138 00:05:53,854 --> 00:05:55,489 into the investigation. 139 00:05:55,523 --> 00:05:58,025 Profile skews male, but she could be a partner. 140 00:05:58,058 --> 00:05:59,560 OK, then, if she isn't involved, 141 00:05:59,593 --> 00:06:00,728 I can get her to talk. 142 00:06:00,761 --> 00:06:02,029 I'm a forensic psychologist. 143 00:06:02,062 --> 00:06:04,064 I'm trained to outwit and outsmart 144 00:06:04,097 --> 00:06:06,734 clinical psychopaths far more dangerous than her. 145 00:06:06,767 --> 00:06:09,803 But if we're wrong, she's going to post her podcast. 146 00:06:09,837 --> 00:06:14,608 Then what? then we're the next example of fake news. 147 00:06:14,642 --> 00:06:17,511 Look, everybody, give us a second. 148 00:06:17,545 --> 00:06:19,813 You, too, Garcia. 149 00:06:24,885 --> 00:06:26,119 We don't just have egg on our face, 150 00:06:26,153 --> 00:06:27,755 we have blood on our hands. 151 00:06:27,788 --> 00:06:29,523 It's not like these conspiracy theorists 152 00:06:29,557 --> 00:06:31,425 are gonna be quiet. 153 00:06:31,459 --> 00:06:33,694 I am aware of that. I need options. 154 00:06:33,727 --> 00:06:34,995 We're out of them. 155 00:06:35,028 --> 00:06:36,997 The profile says it's a truther, 156 00:06:37,030 --> 00:06:40,200 and only one of them is talking to us. 157 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:42,035 We have to throw a Hail Mary. 158 00:06:44,472 --> 00:06:45,706 [cell phone dings] 159 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:47,107 Say something. We need to make sure 160 00:06:47,140 --> 00:06:48,676 the levels are good. 161 00:06:48,709 --> 00:06:50,544 I'm Dr. Tara Lewis of the BAU-- 162 00:06:50,578 --> 00:06:52,613 No. Say something interesting. 163 00:06:52,646 --> 00:06:54,648 Tell me how you really feel about truthers. 164 00:06:54,682 --> 00:06:56,149 My audience could use a sense 165 00:06:56,183 --> 00:06:58,686 of the FBI's bias against us. 166 00:07:00,488 --> 00:07:04,024 I got my PHD. By taking a theory, 167 00:07:04,057 --> 00:07:07,060 testing it, and then proving my results. 168 00:07:07,094 --> 00:07:09,563 Now, proving my results means that I take those results 169 00:07:09,597 --> 00:07:11,131 and I turn them over to other scientists 170 00:07:11,164 --> 00:07:12,533 to see if they can replicate them. 171 00:07:12,566 --> 00:07:15,703 And if they can't, then my theory was wrong. 172 00:07:15,736 --> 00:07:18,606 See, that's science. A consensus of evidence 173 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:20,007 that we call truth. 174 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,575 What you do is different. 175 00:07:21,609 --> 00:07:22,910 Oh, no, it's not. 176 00:07:22,943 --> 00:07:24,478 Yes, it is. 177 00:07:24,512 --> 00:07:27,047 Because your theories are unprovable. 178 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,549 Give me one. 179 00:07:28,582 --> 00:07:30,851 Uh, president Obama wasn't born here. 180 00:07:30,884 --> 00:07:32,520 He was born in Kenya. 181 00:07:32,553 --> 00:07:33,854 Perfect. That's perfect. 182 00:07:33,887 --> 00:07:36,857 So, I show you his long-form birth certificate, 183 00:07:36,890 --> 00:07:39,092 and then you would respond that it's been faked 184 00:07:39,126 --> 00:07:41,228 because that's how deep the conspiracy goes. 185 00:07:41,261 --> 00:07:42,563 And then that becomes your argument 186 00:07:42,596 --> 00:07:44,598 against any evidence that I provide. 187 00:07:44,632 --> 00:07:46,867 It's a cognitive trick that keeps you 188 00:07:46,900 --> 00:07:50,571 from having to admit that life is messy. 189 00:07:50,604 --> 00:07:52,673 It's random. Not everything fits 190 00:07:52,706 --> 00:07:55,609 the easy explanation that a conspiracy gives you. 191 00:07:55,643 --> 00:07:58,679 All right, then. Well, let's talk about the murders. 192 00:07:58,712 --> 00:08:00,614 When did you first hear about them? 193 00:08:00,648 --> 00:08:03,717 Yesterday. When we were invited in. 194 00:08:03,751 --> 00:08:07,755 Garcia: It's time to get out our tinfoil hats, my fine furry friends, 195 00:08:07,788 --> 00:08:11,158 because we are on our way to Roswell, new Mexico, 196 00:08:11,191 --> 00:08:14,094 aka, ground zero of conspiracy theorists 197 00:08:14,127 --> 00:08:16,930 because of a certain alien crash-- I mean weather balloon. 198 00:08:16,964 --> 00:08:19,833 The sheriff there has had two suspicious deaths 199 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:22,035 over the last 48 hours. 200 00:08:22,069 --> 00:08:24,605 Both victims were members of the truther movement. 201 00:08:24,638 --> 00:08:27,675 Yes, which is a group of conspiracy theorists 202 00:08:27,708 --> 00:08:30,711 who share their out-there beliefs online with each other. 203 00:08:30,744 --> 00:08:34,214 No judgment here. Let's look at our first victim Bryan Behar. 204 00:08:34,247 --> 00:08:36,717 He believed that the fluoride they put in our drinking water 205 00:08:36,750 --> 00:08:38,686 is a mind-control agent meant to keep us docile. 206 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:39,720 He died by drowning. 207 00:08:39,753 --> 00:08:40,954 People drown all the time, you say. 208 00:08:40,988 --> 00:08:42,723 I say not in their own aquariums. 209 00:08:42,756 --> 00:08:44,191 So the MO matches his conspiracy. 210 00:08:44,224 --> 00:08:45,793 Is that a coincidence or a choice? 211 00:08:45,826 --> 00:08:48,061 That depends on victim number two. 212 00:08:48,095 --> 00:08:49,730 Uh-huh. That's Carl lee. 213 00:08:49,763 --> 00:08:51,064 He's a JFK conspiracy nut 214 00:08:51,098 --> 00:08:52,966 who was shot once in the throat. 215 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,802 As anyone who saw the Zapruder film knows, 216 00:08:54,835 --> 00:08:56,737 that's where the first bullet struck Kennedy. 217 00:08:56,770 --> 00:09:00,140 Carl lee we can definitively classify as a homicide, 218 00:09:00,173 --> 00:09:02,710 but the drowning death--that could have another explanation. 219 00:09:02,743 --> 00:09:03,877 That's why we'll be treating this 220 00:09:03,911 --> 00:09:05,646 as an equivocal death investigation. 221 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,847 Wheels up in 20. 222 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,749 Back up. What was that term you used? 223 00:09:08,782 --> 00:09:10,618 Equivocal something? 224 00:09:10,651 --> 00:09:11,919 An equivocal death investigation. 225 00:09:11,952 --> 00:09:14,755 It's an investigation where we consider all options. 226 00:09:14,788 --> 00:09:16,857 It could be a murder, but it could also be a suicide 227 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:20,828 or an accident or even natural causes. 228 00:09:20,861 --> 00:09:23,731 Are you saying these murders weren't murder? 229 00:09:23,764 --> 00:09:26,166 Is that the FBI's official position? 230 00:09:26,199 --> 00:09:28,736 I'm saying we let clues guide us to a deduction. 231 00:09:28,769 --> 00:09:30,337 We don't jump to conclusions. 232 00:09:30,370 --> 00:09:32,105 But as we were flying here, 233 00:09:32,139 --> 00:09:34,708 our technical analyst uncovered something unusual. 234 00:09:34,742 --> 00:09:35,709 Right. Your technical analyst. 235 00:09:35,743 --> 00:09:38,145 That would be Penelope Garcia? 236 00:09:38,178 --> 00:09:41,715 Yeah. I looked up your whole team before coming in here. 237 00:09:41,749 --> 00:09:43,083 Why did you do that? 238 00:09:43,116 --> 00:09:45,285 Because I'm a naturally suspicious person 239 00:09:45,318 --> 00:09:48,188 who wanted to get a feel for your methods. 240 00:09:48,221 --> 00:09:50,891 Specifically the illegal surveillance that the FBI 241 00:09:50,924 --> 00:09:54,862 is willing to resort to to frame innocent men and women. 242 00:09:54,895 --> 00:09:58,098 As I said, the FBI doesn't frame anyone, 243 00:09:58,131 --> 00:09:59,800 and we certainly don't do anything illegal. 244 00:09:59,833 --> 00:10:03,236 Well, I guess that depends on what Garcia found 245 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:05,739 and how she found it. 246 00:10:05,773 --> 00:10:08,208 So what did she find? 247 00:10:08,241 --> 00:10:09,843 Garcia: It looks like our two victims 248 00:10:09,877 --> 00:10:12,212 were talking via encrypted texts. 249 00:10:12,245 --> 00:10:13,413 It took a while to break, 250 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:15,315 and their conversation was short, 251 00:10:15,348 --> 00:10:17,150 but its content 252 00:10:17,184 --> 00:10:20,353 made my perfectly shaped eyebrows go, "hmm?" 253 00:10:20,387 --> 00:10:22,022 Carl says to Bryan, "I think I'm close 254 00:10:22,055 --> 00:10:23,290 to finding out who it is." 255 00:10:23,323 --> 00:10:24,725 To which Bryan says, 256 00:10:24,758 --> 00:10:25,959 "maybe we should go to the police." 257 00:10:25,993 --> 00:10:27,995 And Carl says, "what good would that do?" 258 00:10:28,028 --> 00:10:29,196 Well, that could be motive. 259 00:10:29,229 --> 00:10:30,430 Whatever Carl was close to finding 260 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:31,899 could have killed him and Bryan. 261 00:10:31,932 --> 00:10:33,300 At first glance, yeah. 262 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:35,368 But we're talking about conspiracy theorists here, 263 00:10:35,402 --> 00:10:38,305 and a lot of them suffer from association fallacy. 264 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:40,273 Let's say you thought Lyndon Johnson 265 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:43,376 had JFK killed in order to escalate the war in Vietnam. 266 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:45,145 OK, stop right there. 267 00:10:45,178 --> 00:10:46,413 What? 268 00:10:46,446 --> 00:10:48,381 You guys have a jet? 269 00:10:48,415 --> 00:10:49,416 Yes. 270 00:10:49,449 --> 00:10:50,951 A jet. 271 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:52,953 Yes. 272 00:10:52,986 --> 00:10:54,722 Black helicopters 273 00:10:54,755 --> 00:10:56,056 surveilling the American people. 274 00:10:56,089 --> 00:10:57,357 No, no, that's ridiculous. 275 00:10:57,390 --> 00:10:59,793 But a little branch of the FBI 276 00:10:59,827 --> 00:11:01,795 has its own private jet. 277 00:11:01,829 --> 00:11:04,698 OK, one, I never said the FBI doesn't 278 00:11:04,732 --> 00:11:05,933 have black helicopters. 279 00:11:05,966 --> 00:11:08,468 And, two, when people are being murdered, 280 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:09,770 we have to respond quickly. 281 00:11:09,803 --> 00:11:12,773 [scoffs] a jet. 282 00:11:12,806 --> 00:11:14,341 I can't even. 283 00:11:14,374 --> 00:11:16,243 Sorry. Where were we? 284 00:11:16,276 --> 00:11:18,211 Let's say you thought Lyndon Johnson 285 00:11:18,245 --> 00:11:21,782 had JFK killed in order to escalate the war in Vietnam. 286 00:11:21,815 --> 00:11:23,717 That's ridiculous. Everybody knows that-- 287 00:11:23,751 --> 00:11:24,785 Prentiss: No, no. 288 00:11:24,818 --> 00:11:26,920 We're not getting into that again. 289 00:11:26,954 --> 00:11:28,688 Go ahead, Luke. 290 00:11:30,157 --> 00:11:33,160 Uh, my point is, that if you thought 291 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,028 the government could do that, 292 00:11:35,062 --> 00:11:36,229 then you were likely believe that they'd 293 00:11:36,263 --> 00:11:37,931 brought down the towers on 9-11. 294 00:11:37,965 --> 00:11:39,833 Pretty soon you're down that rabbit hole 295 00:11:39,867 --> 00:11:41,869 and you see everything as a plot. 296 00:11:41,902 --> 00:11:43,837 So maybe these guys weren't into anything. 297 00:11:43,871 --> 00:11:46,907 Maybe they just talked themselves into a group delusion. 298 00:11:46,940 --> 00:11:48,976 OK, we should investigate that when we land. 299 00:11:49,009 --> 00:11:51,111 And since the police are mentioned so prominently 300 00:11:51,144 --> 00:11:52,946 on the text, they might know 301 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:54,147 what the victims were looking into. 302 00:11:54,181 --> 00:11:57,985 The Chicago mob, right? Killed JFK. 303 00:11:58,018 --> 00:11:59,853 He gets it. 304 00:11:59,887 --> 00:12:01,822 No. Don't get him started, Matt. 305 00:12:01,855 --> 00:12:05,058 Next, he'll be showing you YouTube clips. 306 00:12:06,193 --> 00:12:07,828 So I'm sure when you flew in, 307 00:12:07,861 --> 00:12:09,863 they showed you Carl and Bryan's police record. 308 00:12:09,897 --> 00:12:13,000 They did. And what we saw were 4 years of reports 309 00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:14,968 that both men were convinced someone was watching them. 310 00:12:15,002 --> 00:12:17,004 But despite his best efforts, sheriff bowman 311 00:12:17,037 --> 00:12:18,939 was never able to find any evidence of stalking. 312 00:12:18,972 --> 00:12:21,274 Oh, yeah. 'cause he tried really hard. 313 00:12:21,308 --> 00:12:22,910 You know what was much more interesting 314 00:12:22,943 --> 00:12:26,880 was what we found when we walked the crime scenes. 315 00:12:26,914 --> 00:12:29,850 The glass is 3/4 of an inch thick and that's sturdy. 316 00:12:29,883 --> 00:12:31,952 If you wanted to drown someone in an aquarium, 317 00:12:31,985 --> 00:12:33,453 that would do the trick. 318 00:12:33,486 --> 00:12:35,923 They said there was a bleach solution in the water, 319 00:12:35,956 --> 00:12:37,124 so he was probably cleaning it 320 00:12:37,157 --> 00:12:38,391 and his ear buds were in. 321 00:12:38,425 --> 00:12:41,028 Make it easy to sneak up on Bryan. 322 00:12:41,061 --> 00:12:44,865 Unsub wouldn't have had to work too hard. 323 00:12:44,898 --> 00:12:46,566 Bryan was startled. 324 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:48,836 He took in water and bleach, 325 00:12:48,869 --> 00:12:52,172 and he was asphyxiated before he knew what was happening. 326 00:12:52,205 --> 00:12:54,975 How did the unsub get in here? 327 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:57,344 Hey, Matt, a question for you. 328 00:12:57,377 --> 00:12:59,312 Any evidence of a break-in at your crime scene? 329 00:12:59,346 --> 00:13:01,114 Hang on, JJ. Let me check. 330 00:13:01,148 --> 00:13:02,482 Any signs of forced entry? 331 00:13:02,515 --> 00:13:03,984 No, sir. 332 00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:05,919 No, none here either. 333 00:13:05,953 --> 00:13:09,422 What I am seeing is an unsub who covers up his tracks. 334 00:13:09,456 --> 00:13:12,993 It looks like he shot Carl in the throat... 335 00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:15,295 Bullet was a through and through. 336 00:13:15,328 --> 00:13:17,497 Came out the other side of Carl's neck 337 00:13:17,530 --> 00:13:19,032 and went in the wall. 338 00:13:19,066 --> 00:13:21,034 Dug it out, picked up the casing, 339 00:13:21,068 --> 00:13:22,269 took the gun with him. 340 00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:24,437 So this guy knows how to clean up after himself 341 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:28,041 and how to get in and out of two houses without detection. 342 00:13:30,043 --> 00:13:32,012 JJ, let me call you back. 343 00:13:40,287 --> 00:13:42,389 Looks like an RFID card. 344 00:13:42,422 --> 00:13:45,525 Mm-hmm. What's it go to? 345 00:13:45,558 --> 00:13:49,029 That's the question. 346 00:14:07,580 --> 00:14:10,250 Huh. Well, hello. 347 00:14:19,993 --> 00:14:21,328 Huh. 348 00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:23,163 That gun's missing. 349 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:25,365 Well, it means the unsub's no mastermind. 350 00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:28,268 It's been right under our nose the whole time. 351 00:14:28,301 --> 00:14:30,670 So we went through Carl's meticulous log 352 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:33,606 of his hardware, and the missing gun should be here. 353 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,475 It is a bodyguard 380. 354 00:14:35,508 --> 00:14:38,611 Now, if the unsub found this in a secret compartment, 355 00:14:38,645 --> 00:14:41,314 then he knows Carl, probably very well. 356 00:14:41,348 --> 00:14:44,217 And based on the fortress that Carl lived in, 357 00:14:44,251 --> 00:14:46,153 it'd probably be another truther. 358 00:14:46,186 --> 00:14:48,188 No one else could get that close. 359 00:14:48,221 --> 00:14:51,224 And that would explain why there was no forced entry at Bryan's either. 360 00:14:51,258 --> 00:14:53,393 So when Carl said, "I'm close to finding out 361 00:14:53,426 --> 00:14:55,328 who it is," he wasn't talking about some secret cabal, 362 00:14:55,362 --> 00:14:56,964 he was talking about a friend. 363 00:14:56,997 --> 00:14:59,366 Prentiss: Someone he was willing to call the cops on. 364 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:02,135 We should bring all the truthers in for questioning. 365 00:15:02,169 --> 00:15:03,536 No, no, that won't work. 366 00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:05,305 They won't cooperate under coercion. 367 00:15:05,338 --> 00:15:08,341 Look, I say we lay all our cards out on the table. 368 00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:09,509 Let's deliver our profile to them. 369 00:15:09,542 --> 00:15:11,044 Oh, that's risky. 370 00:15:11,078 --> 00:15:12,479 But worth it. Either one of the truthers 371 00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:14,414 points us to the unsub... 372 00:15:14,447 --> 00:15:16,416 Or he shows up himself. 373 00:15:16,449 --> 00:15:18,418 And that brings us up to tonight. 374 00:15:18,451 --> 00:15:20,653 Ballistics confirmed that the gun that killed Carl 375 00:15:20,687 --> 00:15:22,422 was the one that Doug used on himself. 376 00:15:22,455 --> 00:15:24,391 All the evidence points to Doug Downey 377 00:15:24,424 --> 00:15:26,493 as our killer, except... 378 00:15:26,526 --> 00:15:28,095 Except you don't have anything tying Doug 379 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:30,297 to Bryan's drowning. 380 00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:33,967 Melissa, I've been as transparent as I can possibly be. 381 00:15:34,001 --> 00:15:37,537 Is there anything we've missed? 382 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:39,406 [sighs] 383 00:15:39,439 --> 00:15:41,074 One thing. 384 00:15:41,108 --> 00:15:42,375 But you didn't miss it, 385 00:15:42,409 --> 00:15:44,544 you covered it up. 386 00:15:44,577 --> 00:15:47,214 Specifically, that the sheriff 387 00:15:47,247 --> 00:15:50,450 made us all walk through a metal detector. 388 00:15:50,483 --> 00:15:52,185 What? 389 00:15:52,219 --> 00:15:54,221 Don't pretend you didn't know that. 390 00:15:54,254 --> 00:15:55,288 And don't pretend you don't know why. 391 00:15:55,322 --> 00:15:57,090 Someone in law enforcement 392 00:15:57,124 --> 00:16:00,293 planted a gun on Doug. 393 00:16:00,327 --> 00:16:05,432 Because what was it that he was saying earlier tonight? 394 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:08,168 What did you put in my pocket?! 395 00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:09,569 Gun! drop it! 396 00:16:09,602 --> 00:16:11,138 [shouting] 397 00:16:11,171 --> 00:16:13,240 Melissa, that doesn't make any sense. 398 00:16:13,273 --> 00:16:15,775 You tell me what's more believable-- 399 00:16:15,808 --> 00:16:18,545 A missing gun in a wacky compartment 400 00:16:18,578 --> 00:16:21,281 or the police planted 401 00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:23,416 a bodyguard 380, 402 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:27,120 a very popular firearm in law enforcement, on Doug. 403 00:16:27,154 --> 00:16:30,323 Then, they call their friends all the way in Quantico 404 00:16:30,357 --> 00:16:33,726 and you guys get on your fancy jet 405 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,364 and come out here to make sure that the cover-up's complete. 406 00:16:37,397 --> 00:16:40,400 That's not what happened. 407 00:16:40,433 --> 00:16:44,437 Am I your unsub? Yes or no? 408 00:16:44,471 --> 00:16:46,473 You are a person of interest, 409 00:16:46,506 --> 00:16:48,408 just like every other truther 410 00:16:48,441 --> 00:16:49,509 in this building tonight. 411 00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:51,278 That's a yes. 412 00:16:51,311 --> 00:16:53,346 Which is why I'm recording all of this, 413 00:16:53,380 --> 00:16:56,649 to show the world exactly how far 414 00:16:56,683 --> 00:16:58,518 the FBI is willing to go 415 00:16:58,551 --> 00:17:00,420 to cover up the truth. 416 00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:03,256 OK. Let's take a moment. 417 00:17:03,290 --> 00:17:04,291 I think we've gotten off track. 418 00:17:04,324 --> 00:17:05,558 No, no. No, we're, uh, 419 00:17:05,592 --> 00:17:08,061 we're right where we need to be. 420 00:17:08,095 --> 00:17:12,465 See, I wanted the brilliant science of behavioral profiling 421 00:17:12,499 --> 00:17:15,102 to provide an answer for all this. 422 00:17:15,135 --> 00:17:16,603 I really did. 423 00:17:16,636 --> 00:17:21,441 But right now, from where I'm sitting, 424 00:17:21,474 --> 00:17:24,411 this crazy conspiracy theorist 425 00:17:24,444 --> 00:17:27,447 is the only one making any sense. 426 00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:34,754 Guys, hold up. 427 00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:36,656 Can we plug this in somewhere? 428 00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:37,724 Yes, ma'am. 429 00:17:37,757 --> 00:17:38,558 So this is the metal detector 430 00:17:38,591 --> 00:17:40,393 mm-hmm. You had at the legion hall? 431 00:17:40,427 --> 00:17:42,362 And you made all the truthers walk through it. 432 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:44,131 Yep. And then after that 433 00:17:44,164 --> 00:17:45,198 you brought it back here to the police stations, 434 00:17:45,232 --> 00:17:46,433 you haven't touched it since? 435 00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:47,567 Sheriff, why didn't you tell us 436 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,136 you were gonna do that? 437 00:17:49,169 --> 00:17:50,770 You told us you didn't want to spook the truthers. 438 00:17:50,803 --> 00:17:52,872 You also told us the killer might show up, 439 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:54,874 so this was for our protection. 440 00:17:54,907 --> 00:17:56,776 Can you tell me I was wrong? 441 00:17:56,809 --> 00:17:59,112 No, sheriff, you weren't wrong, 442 00:17:59,146 --> 00:18:00,847 but it does beg the bigger question. 443 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,483 How the hell did Doug get a gun through that thing? 444 00:18:03,516 --> 00:18:04,817 I was hoping you could answer that, 445 00:18:04,851 --> 00:18:08,121 you all being the geniuses with this investigation. 446 00:18:08,155 --> 00:18:10,157 JJ: No, that's not right. 447 00:18:10,190 --> 00:18:11,224 Alvez: What do you mean it's not right? 448 00:18:11,258 --> 00:18:12,392 It says it right here. 449 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,261 No, that's not what I saw. 450 00:18:14,294 --> 00:18:15,495 Did that just-- 451 00:18:15,528 --> 00:18:18,731 Lewis: Yeah. Yeah, it did. 452 00:18:18,765 --> 00:18:20,667 What is it? 453 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:23,436 [beep] 454 00:18:23,470 --> 00:18:26,473 How in the world could that happen? 455 00:18:26,506 --> 00:18:28,208 I think I might know. 456 00:18:28,241 --> 00:18:29,476 Melissa: Bullcrap. 457 00:18:29,509 --> 00:18:32,145 Bull crap. 458 00:18:32,179 --> 00:18:34,847 You know, I would use stronger language, 459 00:18:34,881 --> 00:18:36,249 but I don't want this podcast 460 00:18:36,283 --> 00:18:37,484 to get an "explicit" rating. 461 00:18:37,517 --> 00:18:38,785 Well, it's the truth. 462 00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:41,654 Metal detectors require precise calibration. 463 00:18:41,688 --> 00:18:44,891 Otherwise, they're susceptible to all kinds of interference. 464 00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:47,227 Photocopiers, bluetooth, even fluorescent lighting. 465 00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:49,362 The sheriff was in such a hurry to get it set up 466 00:18:49,396 --> 00:18:51,531 down at the legion hall that he assumed 467 00:18:51,564 --> 00:18:53,166 it would work the same way it always had, 468 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,668 but it didn't. 469 00:18:55,702 --> 00:18:57,904 I still don't buy it. 470 00:18:57,937 --> 00:18:59,272 Do you know why? 471 00:18:59,306 --> 00:19:01,208 Why what? 472 00:19:01,241 --> 00:19:03,210 Why you don't buy it. 473 00:19:03,243 --> 00:19:05,278 I can tell you. 474 00:19:05,312 --> 00:19:08,181 [exhales] 475 00:19:08,215 --> 00:19:10,583 It's called proportionality bias. 476 00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:12,652 You see, it's our natural human instinct 477 00:19:12,685 --> 00:19:16,323 to assume that big events have big causes. 478 00:19:16,356 --> 00:19:17,657 We don't want to believe that a lone gunman 479 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:20,693 killed JFK with a rifle he bought for 19.99, 480 00:19:20,727 --> 00:19:22,962 or that hijackers brought down 4 planes 481 00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:24,631 using only box cutters. 482 00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,533 I mean, there has to be a better explanation. 483 00:19:26,566 --> 00:19:29,436 We need an answer that's more satisfying, 484 00:19:29,469 --> 00:19:32,205 but sometimes it just isn't. 485 00:19:32,239 --> 00:19:33,873 You know? Machines break down. 486 00:19:33,906 --> 00:19:37,544 Systems don't work. Life is messy. 487 00:19:37,577 --> 00:19:39,312 It's random. 488 00:19:39,346 --> 00:19:42,349 Fine. Let's just test your version, shall we? 489 00:19:42,382 --> 00:19:43,516 Let's. 490 00:19:43,550 --> 00:19:46,319 You're saying that Doug snuck a gun 491 00:19:46,353 --> 00:19:48,288 through a metal detector, a metal detector 492 00:19:48,321 --> 00:19:50,257 he would have no way of knowing was broken. 493 00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:51,591 Is that your story? 494 00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:54,661 Well, why don't you tell me a better one. 495 00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:56,329 Not my job. 496 00:19:56,363 --> 00:19:58,565 What my audience wants to hear, however, 497 00:19:58,598 --> 00:20:01,501 is how well your team does yours. 498 00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:04,371 All right, well, while agent Prentiss and I 499 00:20:04,404 --> 00:20:05,572 were figuring out the mystery 500 00:20:05,605 --> 00:20:07,774 of the malfunctioning metal detector, 501 00:20:07,807 --> 00:20:10,577 agents Jareau and Simmons headed to the morgue. 502 00:20:10,610 --> 00:20:13,246 So let's presume Bryan Behar here died of asphyxiation 503 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,249 from drowning. What I can't explain is this. 504 00:20:16,283 --> 00:20:18,551 These chemical burns on his face. 505 00:20:18,585 --> 00:20:19,919 Well, he was drowned in a bleach solution. 506 00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:21,388 Would that do this? 507 00:20:21,421 --> 00:20:22,989 No. This looks like some form 508 00:20:23,022 --> 00:20:24,657 of aerosolized toxin, 509 00:20:24,691 --> 00:20:26,993 but damned if I could tell you what kind. 510 00:20:27,026 --> 00:20:29,296 And that's still not the oddest thing I've seen today. 511 00:20:29,329 --> 00:20:32,299 Mr. Carl lee, shot in the throat, 512 00:20:32,332 --> 00:20:36,869 but covering his wound, this doozy. 513 00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:38,605 The blood matches Mr. Lee. 514 00:20:38,638 --> 00:20:40,940 Myoglobin on the blood says he was alive when it happened, 515 00:20:40,973 --> 00:20:42,942 and only his prints are on it. 516 00:20:42,975 --> 00:20:46,346 Obviously it's from a book, but I can't tell which one. 517 00:20:46,379 --> 00:20:47,480 We can. 518 00:20:47,514 --> 00:20:50,683 It's from "the catcher in the rye." 519 00:20:50,717 --> 00:20:52,385 Wow. 520 00:20:52,419 --> 00:20:54,621 Does that mean something to you? 521 00:20:54,654 --> 00:20:55,788 [scoffs] 522 00:20:55,822 --> 00:20:58,691 Of course that means something to me. 523 00:20:58,725 --> 00:21:00,360 "the catcher in the rye" Has been linked 524 00:21:00,393 --> 00:21:01,828 to multiple killers since it was first published. 525 00:21:01,861 --> 00:21:04,664 And when mark David Chapman shot John Lennon, 526 00:21:04,697 --> 00:21:07,334 he said, "read 'catcher in the rye.' 527 00:21:07,367 --> 00:21:08,668 That's my statement." 528 00:21:08,701 --> 00:21:10,303 It was found on john Hinckley's bookshelf 529 00:21:10,337 --> 00:21:11,404 after he shot Reagan. 530 00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:14,441 Oswald, Manson, Robert Bardo, 531 00:21:14,474 --> 00:21:15,808 they were all obsessed with it. 532 00:21:15,842 --> 00:21:17,544 It was the original brainwashing tool 533 00:21:17,577 --> 00:21:19,011 of the united states government. 534 00:21:19,045 --> 00:21:20,079 I wouldn't call it that. 535 00:21:20,112 --> 00:21:21,548 Of course you wouldn't. 536 00:21:21,581 --> 00:21:22,782 Because then you'd have to admit 537 00:21:22,815 --> 00:21:25,017 how sophisticated the whole-scale duping 538 00:21:25,051 --> 00:21:26,419 of this nation has become. 539 00:21:26,453 --> 00:21:27,454 I'm not following you. 540 00:21:27,487 --> 00:21:31,958 Aurora, Orlando, sandy hook. 541 00:21:31,991 --> 00:21:33,092 The united states government 542 00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:35,094 shot up a bunch of empty buildings 543 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:36,596 and then gathered everything up 544 00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:38,331 and traded it amongst themselves 545 00:21:38,365 --> 00:21:42,902 because that's how plausible deniability works. 546 00:21:42,935 --> 00:21:45,438 Sandy hook was staged? 547 00:21:45,472 --> 00:21:48,575 Sandy hook was staged the worst. 548 00:21:48,608 --> 00:21:50,510 All those actors they threw in front of cameras 549 00:21:50,543 --> 00:21:52,111 to be grieving parents. 550 00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:54,581 I was screaming at my television set, 551 00:21:54,614 --> 00:21:56,516 "you're lying!" 552 00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:58,418 And if they would lie about that, 553 00:21:58,451 --> 00:22:01,421 then they would absolutely lie about a metal detector. 554 00:22:01,454 --> 00:22:05,525 So let me make one thing clear moving forward. 555 00:22:05,558 --> 00:22:09,996 When I say they, I mean you. 556 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:17,404 Give me one second. 557 00:22:20,473 --> 00:22:24,811 [indistinct chatter] 558 00:22:36,823 --> 00:22:39,526 Son of a-- [screaming, banging] 559 00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:43,596 What the hell kind of outfit you running here, agent? 560 00:22:50,437 --> 00:22:53,440 You want to talk about it? 561 00:22:53,473 --> 00:22:55,442 No. 562 00:22:58,845 --> 00:23:02,449 It's OK to tap out if you want. 563 00:23:02,482 --> 00:23:05,752 No. Emily, I can do this. 564 00:23:05,785 --> 00:23:07,487 Has she said anything that points 565 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,155 to her involvement in the murders? 566 00:23:09,188 --> 00:23:12,559 Have you gotten any answers out of her? 567 00:23:12,592 --> 00:23:15,728 Maybe it's time to change up the strategy. 568 00:23:25,004 --> 00:23:26,673 Where's Dr. Lewis? 569 00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:29,576 I'm SSA Jareau. I'm here to talk to you 570 00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:31,811 about your favorite book, "catcher in the rye." 571 00:23:31,844 --> 00:23:35,482 [laughs] I get it. You're rotating agents now, 572 00:23:35,515 --> 00:23:37,216 wearing me down so I can't see your lies. 573 00:23:37,249 --> 00:23:38,518 Is that the game? 574 00:23:38,551 --> 00:23:40,553 I just had some information 575 00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:42,622 agent Lewis didn't, 576 00:23:42,655 --> 00:23:44,090 but if you don't want to hear it-- 577 00:23:44,123 --> 00:23:45,525 Oh, no, I want to hear it. 578 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,465 [ding] 579 00:23:52,499 --> 00:23:56,603 So after we found such a prominent clue on Carl, 580 00:23:56,636 --> 00:23:58,871 we wanted to study the original text, 581 00:23:58,905 --> 00:24:00,473 so we got a copy of the book. 582 00:24:00,507 --> 00:24:02,642 Apparently, "catcher in the rye" 583 00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:05,712 Is the local book club selection this month. 584 00:24:05,745 --> 00:24:08,047 And did you know that there are two actual... 585 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,649 Alvez: ...brick and mortar bookstores in Roswell? 586 00:24:09,682 --> 00:24:11,584 But one of the owners was happy to give me a copy. 587 00:24:11,618 --> 00:24:12,585 What page is it? 588 00:24:12,619 --> 00:24:14,587 Uh, 76. That's what was on Carl. 589 00:24:14,621 --> 00:24:17,590 OK, here it is. It, uh, it starts mid-sentence. 590 00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:19,992 "don't see how he could like a phony book like that 591 00:24:20,026 --> 00:24:22,662 and still like the one by ring Lardner." 592 00:24:22,695 --> 00:24:24,664 No, that's not right. 593 00:24:24,697 --> 00:24:26,533 What do you mean, it's not right? I have it right here. 594 00:24:26,566 --> 00:24:27,667 That's not what I saw. 595 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:29,969 Prentiss: Did that just-- 596 00:24:30,002 --> 00:24:32,639 Yeah, see, this page 76 Is different. 597 00:24:32,672 --> 00:24:34,240 The page on Carl's throat was annotated. 598 00:24:34,273 --> 00:24:37,209 The publisher bolded terms and phrases for emphasis. 599 00:24:37,243 --> 00:24:39,646 Well, that would throw the whole layout of the book off 600 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:41,614 and then your page 76 Wouldn't look like this one. 601 00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:44,651 OK, there are two editions of the book. That's common. 602 00:24:44,684 --> 00:24:47,620 But maybe it's not the page that's important. 603 00:24:47,654 --> 00:24:49,589 Maybe it's the edition. 604 00:24:49,622 --> 00:24:51,891 The devil's in the pitchforky little details, 605 00:24:51,924 --> 00:24:52,925 my friends. 606 00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:55,027 I matched the formatting 607 00:24:55,061 --> 00:24:57,897 of the text on poor doomed Carl 608 00:24:57,930 --> 00:24:59,532 to a local publisher. 609 00:24:59,566 --> 00:25:01,834 He goes by the name of Bob Orci. 610 00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:04,571 He writes conspiracy- Related commentary 611 00:25:04,604 --> 00:25:07,640 for books like "behold a pale horse," 612 00:25:07,674 --> 00:25:09,542 "protocols of the elders of Zion," 613 00:25:09,576 --> 00:25:10,677 "Mein Kampf." 614 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:11,678 Books the truthers love. 615 00:25:11,711 --> 00:25:14,013 Right now we need as much evidence as possible 616 00:25:14,046 --> 00:25:15,648 to prove that Doug is our unsub. 617 00:25:15,682 --> 00:25:17,684 If he bought the book we found on Carl, 618 00:25:17,717 --> 00:25:18,618 it strengthens our case. 619 00:25:18,651 --> 00:25:20,553 Luke, you and Matt, bring in this publisher. 620 00:25:20,587 --> 00:25:22,121 I'm on it. Garcia, can you help me out with an address? 621 00:25:22,154 --> 00:25:24,891 Yeah, I'm working on the physical address of Mr. Orci as we speak. 622 00:25:24,924 --> 00:25:26,693 The thing is, he lives so far out there 623 00:25:26,726 --> 00:25:28,294 that it's not a place where there are street numbers 624 00:25:28,327 --> 00:25:29,829 on the houses, so the closest single 625 00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:31,197 physical address I can get you is... 626 00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:32,298 Route 3, greenwood way? 627 00:25:32,331 --> 00:25:33,733 You know him? 628 00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:35,101 By reputation. He's not a truther. 629 00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:36,268 He's an anarchist. He's dangerous. 630 00:25:36,302 --> 00:25:37,303 How dangerous? 631 00:25:37,336 --> 00:25:40,006 He has fertilizer lining his place as an explosive. 632 00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:41,641 Prentiss! 633 00:25:41,674 --> 00:25:43,643 Wait. That far out in the desert, 634 00:25:43,676 --> 00:25:44,443 there's no cell service. 635 00:25:44,476 --> 00:25:46,613 You're not gonna reach them by phone. 636 00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:58,658 [coyote howling] 637 00:25:58,691 --> 00:26:01,293 Alvez: Is that anfo, Matt? 638 00:26:01,327 --> 00:26:03,029 Yeah. 639 00:26:16,676 --> 00:26:18,845 FBI! 640 00:26:18,878 --> 00:26:20,813 Oh, my god. 641 00:26:29,656 --> 00:26:30,823 [door opens] 642 00:26:30,857 --> 00:26:33,292 What's going on? Who are you? 643 00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:36,095 I'm SSA Emily Prentiss of the BAU. 644 00:26:36,128 --> 00:26:38,631 Melissa, you're gonna want to take a seat. 645 00:26:38,665 --> 00:26:40,700 Oh, god, someone died, didn't they? 646 00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:42,401 What makes you say that? 647 00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:44,871 You guys have had me waiting in here for hours 648 00:26:44,904 --> 00:26:48,140 while your team tracked down Bob Orci. What happened? 649 00:26:48,174 --> 00:26:50,710 Are you recording this? You should. 650 00:26:50,743 --> 00:26:52,679 [ding] 651 00:26:52,712 --> 00:26:54,914 Agents Simmons and Alvez 652 00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:57,316 landed at Bob Orci's at 3:37 am. 653 00:26:57,349 --> 00:27:00,186 The were very surprised by what they found. 654 00:27:00,219 --> 00:27:02,288 FBI! 655 00:27:02,321 --> 00:27:03,289 Oh, my god. 656 00:27:03,322 --> 00:27:06,826 Hey, guys, meet Bob Orci. Weapons down, please. 657 00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:07,960 You were saying... 658 00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:10,096 Wait. So you got there before them. 659 00:27:10,129 --> 00:27:11,097 How? 660 00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:12,865 By helicopter. 661 00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:14,233 Not the bureau's helicopter. 662 00:27:14,266 --> 00:27:15,935 This one belongs to the police force. 663 00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,737 What? 664 00:27:17,770 --> 00:27:19,138 There's been a push. 665 00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:20,740 Police forces across the country 666 00:27:20,773 --> 00:27:22,909 have been purchasing military-grade hardware. 667 00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:25,878 Yeah. Like grenade launchers and tanks. 668 00:27:25,912 --> 00:27:27,446 Roswell doesn't need a tank. 669 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,849 It needs a helicopter. People get lost in the desert. 670 00:27:29,882 --> 00:27:31,784 Sometimes an FBI agent like me 671 00:27:31,818 --> 00:27:33,753 needs to get to a cabin in the middle of nowhere 672 00:27:33,786 --> 00:27:35,187 as fast as possible. 673 00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:37,356 Based on your warning, the sheriff and I 674 00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:40,827 landed a mile away and we came up with a plan. 675 00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:48,300 FBI! hands up, now! 676 00:27:48,334 --> 00:27:49,969 Now! 677 00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:51,771 Wh-what?! What is-- 678 00:27:51,804 --> 00:27:53,205 Hands on your head. 679 00:27:53,239 --> 00:27:55,041 Get on your knees. 680 00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:57,043 Where's the fertilizer, bob? 681 00:27:57,076 --> 00:27:59,111 The fertili-- Uh, it's-- 682 00:27:59,145 --> 00:28:00,747 It's under the tarp over there. 683 00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:02,782 Yes, sir. Check it out. 684 00:28:02,815 --> 00:28:04,283 Uh... 685 00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:07,053 No, that's, uh, my-- My organic tomatoes 686 00:28:07,086 --> 00:28:09,922 need special soil, and--and-- 687 00:28:09,956 --> 00:28:11,423 Th-that's my vitamin supplements 688 00:28:11,457 --> 00:28:14,193 are in those barrels. 689 00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:15,194 No, wait, wait, wait, wait. 690 00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:17,196 No, please. Please. 691 00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:19,398 I--I swear to you, I will surrender everything. 692 00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:21,400 Just please don't kill me. 693 00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:23,135 Organic tomatoes. 694 00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:24,403 Yeah. 695 00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:26,205 Anfo stands for 696 00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:28,507 ammonium nitrate fuel oil. Fuel oil. 697 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:30,242 You can't grow anything with it. 698 00:28:30,276 --> 00:28:31,477 We pointed that out to bob. 699 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:35,281 He said that must be why his tomatoes kept dying. 700 00:28:35,314 --> 00:28:37,316 We searched the whole compound anyway. 701 00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:38,450 There was no bomb. 702 00:28:38,484 --> 00:28:40,219 But Bob Orci 703 00:28:40,252 --> 00:28:42,188 had quite the story to tell. 704 00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:44,523 It's all an act. I'm no hermit. 705 00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:48,227 Yeah, I-- I tell these truthers 706 00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:50,229 that I'm some kind of holy fool 707 00:28:50,262 --> 00:28:52,198 and they buy all my stuff. 708 00:28:52,231 --> 00:28:54,400 By "stuff," You mean your books? 709 00:28:54,433 --> 00:28:57,536 No, the books are a loss-leader. 710 00:28:57,569 --> 00:28:59,772 But the vitamin supplements, oh, 711 00:28:59,806 --> 00:29:02,441 oh, my god, I've made so much money 712 00:29:02,474 --> 00:29:04,143 off the vitamin supplements. 713 00:29:04,176 --> 00:29:06,378 So, "catcher in the rye" Is just the latest 714 00:29:06,412 --> 00:29:08,848 in a long line of crap. 715 00:29:08,881 --> 00:29:10,116 Well, the book itself isn't. 716 00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:12,084 And J.D. Salinger is a genius. 717 00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:14,053 Didn't your read my commentary, 718 00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:16,555 read my notes, annotations? 719 00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:18,825 I tried. You lost me 720 00:29:18,858 --> 00:29:20,026 when you tried to connect 721 00:29:20,059 --> 00:29:22,061 Holden Caulfield to the Bilderberg group. 722 00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:23,362 There is no connection. 723 00:29:23,395 --> 00:29:26,532 All you gotta do to fool these morons 724 00:29:26,565 --> 00:29:28,935 is to ask a question that starts with, 725 00:29:28,968 --> 00:29:30,369 "isn't it interesting?" 726 00:29:30,402 --> 00:29:33,172 Like--like-- Like, isn't it interesting 727 00:29:33,205 --> 00:29:36,809 that Holden Caulfield and Bilderberg group 728 00:29:36,843 --> 00:29:39,378 both have 15 letters. 729 00:29:39,411 --> 00:29:41,113 Yeah. And then you tag that 730 00:29:41,147 --> 00:29:43,315 with "wow! wake up, sheeple," 731 00:29:43,349 --> 00:29:45,117 You just sold a thousand copies. 732 00:29:45,151 --> 00:29:46,853 We think the killer might have bought 733 00:29:46,886 --> 00:29:48,587 one of your commentaries. 734 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:50,556 Who'd you sell to in Roswell? 735 00:29:50,589 --> 00:29:52,424 The book group is reading 736 00:29:52,458 --> 00:29:54,126 "catcher in the rye" Next month, 737 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,196 so all I was trying to do is capitalize on that. 738 00:29:57,229 --> 00:29:59,832 And only one guy seemed to show any interest. 739 00:29:59,866 --> 00:30:02,468 [door bangs open] FBI! 740 00:30:02,501 --> 00:30:03,903 Oh, my god. 741 00:30:03,936 --> 00:30:05,604 Hey, guys, meet Bob Orci. 742 00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:09,075 Weapons down, please. You were saying... 743 00:30:09,108 --> 00:30:10,877 Carl lee. 744 00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:13,612 The guy's name was Carl lee. 745 00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:16,215 So it was Carl's copy. 746 00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:17,917 Doug didn't bring it with him? 747 00:30:17,950 --> 00:30:20,286 Why would Doug put page 76 OVER CARL'S THROAT? 748 00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:21,387 he didn't. 749 00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:24,090 Only Carl's fingerprints and DNA 750 00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:27,093 were on that page. Doug never touched it. 751 00:30:27,126 --> 00:30:28,895 You've lost me. 752 00:30:28,928 --> 00:30:30,629 Ever been shot before? 753 00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:32,531 People do weird things when they're shot. 754 00:30:32,564 --> 00:30:34,133 [gunshot] 755 00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:35,401 [groans] 756 00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:38,470 Prentiss: Carl was slipping into shock, 757 00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:41,340 meaning he had some vague awareness that he was gonna die 758 00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:43,442 and his brain was short-circuiting. 759 00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:45,878 So that clue that seemed so important 4 HOURS AGO, 760 00:30:45,912 --> 00:30:47,914 it means nothing. 761 00:30:47,947 --> 00:30:50,016 Life is messy, random. 762 00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:51,383 That's why I sent agent Jareau 763 00:30:51,417 --> 00:30:53,019 back to the first crime scene. 764 00:30:53,052 --> 00:30:54,586 We needed to take a look at it again 765 00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:56,388 without any preconceptions. 766 00:30:56,422 --> 00:30:58,524 And when she saw the cleaning supplies, 767 00:30:58,557 --> 00:31:00,092 she had an idea. 768 00:31:00,126 --> 00:31:03,362 Specifically, what happens when you're not careful 769 00:31:03,395 --> 00:31:05,264 how you clean your aquarium? 770 00:31:05,297 --> 00:31:07,967 So she had Garcia do some research. 771 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,468 So let's talk about weird science. 772 00:31:09,501 --> 00:31:10,436 There are certain types of coral 773 00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:13,305 that when they come into contact with bleach, 774 00:31:13,339 --> 00:31:15,674 release something called a palytoxin. 775 00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:19,145 So the coral, it, like, emits this aerosol 776 00:31:19,178 --> 00:31:20,947 and then that aerosol causes the throat 777 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:23,382 and the lungs to close and the eyes and the skin to burn. 778 00:31:23,415 --> 00:31:25,351 Well, that's the mystery chemical weapon 779 00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:26,652 the ME Couldn't place. 780 00:31:26,685 --> 00:31:28,988 So let's play this out. 781 00:31:29,021 --> 00:31:30,222 He pours in the bleach, 782 00:31:30,256 --> 00:31:32,691 coral spits out its toxin, 783 00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:36,395 and mother nature does the rest. 784 00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:40,599 [gasping] 785 00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:45,704 It's not murder. 786 00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:48,440 It's an accident. 787 00:31:49,541 --> 00:31:51,510 We're veering dangerously close 788 00:31:51,543 --> 00:31:52,945 to bullcrap territory. 789 00:31:52,979 --> 00:31:55,114 We could call it murder. 790 00:31:55,147 --> 00:31:57,316 If the profile was Charles Darwin's 791 00:31:57,349 --> 00:31:58,985 theory of natural selection, 792 00:31:59,018 --> 00:32:00,652 we could arrest the piece of coral, I guess. 793 00:32:00,686 --> 00:32:03,956 Or, we could just accept that life is-- 794 00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:07,259 Messy, random. Yeah. 795 00:32:07,293 --> 00:32:09,161 Until it's not. 796 00:32:09,195 --> 00:32:10,429 What does that mean? 797 00:32:10,462 --> 00:32:12,999 Well, that seemingly unimportant book, 798 00:32:13,032 --> 00:32:16,668 there was one additional detail Bob Orci told us about 799 00:32:16,702 --> 00:32:18,304 that I forgot to mention. 800 00:32:18,337 --> 00:32:21,473 No, I--I didn't forget. 801 00:32:21,507 --> 00:32:23,742 I was holding back for dramatic effect. 802 00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:27,379 Carl lee. His name was Carl lee. 803 00:32:27,413 --> 00:32:30,016 And the reason that sticks out 804 00:32:30,049 --> 00:32:32,551 is because he asked me to write a dedication 805 00:32:32,584 --> 00:32:34,086 on the inside cover of the book. 806 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,222 It's something I add for an extra 20 bucks. 807 00:32:36,255 --> 00:32:39,058 You know? and sometimes I use the wild man font 808 00:32:39,091 --> 00:32:40,659 and the truthers all go, 809 00:32:40,692 --> 00:32:43,562 "oh, wow, look, he actually wrote stuff in my book." 810 00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:45,998 Tara, we have something. 811 00:32:52,104 --> 00:32:53,539 Found it, Emily. 812 00:32:53,572 --> 00:32:54,706 What does it say? 813 00:32:54,740 --> 00:33:00,112 "to my darling Melissa, love always, Carl." 814 00:33:00,146 --> 00:33:02,114 We were dating. That's not a crime. 815 00:33:02,148 --> 00:33:03,349 So why hide it? 816 00:33:03,382 --> 00:33:05,551 The truther community is small, 817 00:33:05,584 --> 00:33:07,053 and we're gossipy. 818 00:33:07,086 --> 00:33:08,187 Also, we're already convinced 819 00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:09,688 agents like you are watching us. 820 00:33:09,721 --> 00:33:12,058 So Carl and I covered our tracks. 821 00:33:12,091 --> 00:33:13,725 So well, in fact, that the great and powerful Garcia 822 00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:15,361 is not going to find them. 823 00:33:15,394 --> 00:33:16,762 I believe you. 824 00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:18,330 Which is why we had to rely 825 00:33:18,364 --> 00:33:19,798 on old-fashioned profiling 826 00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:21,633 to figure out this next part. 827 00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:24,736 And it started with a question you asked first. 828 00:33:24,770 --> 00:33:28,207 Why would Doug kill himself for no reason? 829 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,112 So, we reconstructed Doug's suicide to see what we missed. 830 00:33:33,145 --> 00:33:34,746 So you were there and I was here. 831 00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:35,747 Right. 832 00:33:35,781 --> 00:33:37,249 And then he was screaming at you, 833 00:33:37,283 --> 00:33:39,551 "I know a false flag when I see one, bitch." 834 00:33:39,585 --> 00:33:41,120 And then bang. 835 00:33:41,153 --> 00:33:42,321 No, that's not right. 836 00:33:42,354 --> 00:33:44,156 He said all those things, but not to me. 837 00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:45,624 He was looking at you. 838 00:33:45,657 --> 00:33:48,360 No, no. If someone made eye contact with me 839 00:33:48,394 --> 00:33:50,262 and called me a bitch, I'd remember. 840 00:33:50,296 --> 00:33:51,463 Maybe he wasn't looking at either of you. 841 00:33:51,497 --> 00:33:53,199 He was looking between you. 842 00:33:53,232 --> 00:33:56,168 Uh...JJ, you were posted up over there 843 00:33:56,202 --> 00:33:57,836 yeah. For line of sight. 844 00:33:57,869 --> 00:33:59,305 OK, there's only one one other woman 845 00:33:59,338 --> 00:34:01,773 in the room he would have been talking to. 846 00:34:01,807 --> 00:34:03,742 The reason we asked you here, 847 00:34:03,775 --> 00:34:06,478 the only reason, is to listen. 848 00:34:06,512 --> 00:34:07,479 That's all. 849 00:34:07,513 --> 00:34:09,715 So just listen. 850 00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:12,784 Listen. Put the gun down. 851 00:34:12,818 --> 00:34:14,553 I know a false flag when I see one. 852 00:34:14,586 --> 00:34:16,155 You bitch! 853 00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:17,123 [gunshot] 854 00:34:17,156 --> 00:34:18,790 It all started with Carl's text. 855 00:34:18,824 --> 00:34:20,226 "I'm close to finding out who it is." 856 00:34:20,259 --> 00:34:22,094 He was talking about Melissa, 857 00:34:22,128 --> 00:34:24,096 as in, "I'm close to finding out who she's cheating with." 858 00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:25,797 She was cheating with Doug? 859 00:34:25,831 --> 00:34:27,433 Yes. And when she found out 860 00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:28,800 Carl was onto her, she killed him. 861 00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:30,836 Whoa. Slow down there, partner. 862 00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:32,571 Think about it. It's the oldest motivation in the book-- 863 00:34:32,604 --> 00:34:36,175 Sex. Melissa is cunning and manipulative, 864 00:34:36,208 --> 00:34:38,644 and she is a psychopath, and a good one. 865 00:34:38,677 --> 00:34:41,580 I mean, she sat there while I laid out this entire case, 866 00:34:41,613 --> 00:34:43,249 she did not tip a thing. 867 00:34:43,282 --> 00:34:44,816 Now, Doug's prints were on the gun because of the suicide, 868 00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:48,554 but with Carl, Melissa could have used gloves, and... 869 00:34:51,157 --> 00:34:52,558 What? 870 00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:55,161 Why is everybody staring at me? 871 00:34:55,194 --> 00:34:56,895 Tara, I want to believe that. 872 00:34:56,928 --> 00:35:00,866 An arrest would relieve a lot of tension 873 00:35:00,899 --> 00:35:02,901 on this case, but... 874 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,102 But we don't have the evidence, 875 00:35:04,136 --> 00:35:08,140 and without the evidence, we're no better than the truthers. 876 00:35:08,174 --> 00:35:10,676 No better than the truthers. 877 00:35:13,312 --> 00:35:16,482 Melissa... 878 00:35:16,515 --> 00:35:20,252 Thinks that sandy hook was staged. 879 00:35:22,221 --> 00:35:24,556 I was there... 880 00:35:24,590 --> 00:35:28,194 That day, and I counseled those parents, 881 00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:31,530 and I saw... 882 00:35:31,563 --> 00:35:34,166 I saw those kids. 883 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,837 So the day that I lose to someone like her... 884 00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:41,673 That's the day that I quit. 885 00:35:41,707 --> 00:35:44,843 It's biased thinking, 886 00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:47,246 and if we allow it to color our profile 887 00:35:47,279 --> 00:35:50,182 and the arrest falls apart, 888 00:35:50,216 --> 00:35:52,551 we'll be a stain on the bureau. 889 00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:57,823 OK, so what, we just... We just back off on Melissa? 890 00:35:57,856 --> 00:36:00,659 No. We back up our profile. 891 00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:04,863 You have a theory, Tara. Now prove your results. 892 00:36:04,896 --> 00:36:07,833 Now, once we're inside Melissa's house, what are we looking for? 893 00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:10,802 Well, maybe she cleaned up Carl lee's crime scene. 894 00:36:10,836 --> 00:36:13,505 The gun's accounted for, but the missing bullet and casing aren't. 895 00:36:13,539 --> 00:36:16,275 Great start. What else? 896 00:36:16,308 --> 00:36:19,878 I admit my bias, out loud, 897 00:36:19,911 --> 00:36:20,846 because I wasn't able to see 898 00:36:20,879 --> 00:36:23,415 what was right in front of me the whole time. 899 00:36:23,449 --> 00:36:26,818 I thought anyone who believed in conspiracy theories 900 00:36:26,852 --> 00:36:30,722 had to be deluded. There was no way they could outsmart me. 901 00:36:30,756 --> 00:36:35,461 And I was wrong. There is a conspiracy in this case. 902 00:36:35,494 --> 00:36:38,830 And you are at the center of it. 903 00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:44,970 So, allow me to be clear from this point forward. 904 00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:47,473 I'm going to give you one chance to tell the truth, 905 00:36:47,506 --> 00:36:51,277 one. Keep in mind we are already searching your place. 906 00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:55,013 If you lie, if you hold back in any way, 907 00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:56,248 I will know about it, 908 00:36:56,282 --> 00:36:59,017 and I will nail you for it, 909 00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:02,388 all the way to a life sentence. 910 00:37:02,421 --> 00:37:04,222 Wow. 911 00:37:10,629 --> 00:37:13,565 What's the point of this? 912 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,634 I guess there's just one last thing to say 913 00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:18,937 before I invoke my right to an attorney. 914 00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:24,242 Good luck. 915 00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:34,720 Rossi: Anything? 916 00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:36,021 Melissa's house was spotless. 917 00:37:36,054 --> 00:37:37,456 Zero evidence of her involvement. 918 00:37:37,489 --> 00:37:39,558 How are you guys doing? 919 00:37:39,591 --> 00:37:41,026 Yikes. 920 00:37:41,059 --> 00:37:42,394 Yeah, every time we try to reason it out, 921 00:37:42,428 --> 00:37:44,296 we keep hitting different walls. 922 00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:45,196 We have to make an arrest 923 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:47,466 or release all the truthers from custody. 924 00:37:47,499 --> 00:37:49,301 Give me the version that makes the most sense. 925 00:37:49,335 --> 00:37:50,936 OK, well, Doug was holding the gun that killed Carl, 926 00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:53,004 but there is nothing behaviorally 927 00:37:53,038 --> 00:37:54,473 that points to him being a killer. 928 00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:56,775 And Melissa's the undiagnosed psychopath, 929 00:37:56,808 --> 00:37:57,976 and Carl was figuring out that she was cheating. 930 00:37:58,009 --> 00:38:01,547 And as his girlfriend, she would know where he hid his guns, 931 00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:04,015 and so we-- We're thinking this. 932 00:38:04,049 --> 00:38:05,951 Carl and Melissa were fighting. 933 00:38:05,984 --> 00:38:08,454 Psychopaths aren't known for their small egos 934 00:38:08,487 --> 00:38:10,556 or impulse control, and so Melissa got angry 935 00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:12,624 and she waits for Carl to turn his back, 936 00:38:12,658 --> 00:38:14,493 Carl! And then bang. 937 00:38:17,429 --> 00:38:19,565 So she cleans up as best as she could, 938 00:38:19,598 --> 00:38:22,401 but now she has to hide what she did. 939 00:38:29,508 --> 00:38:32,578 So we asked the truthers to listen to our profile, 940 00:38:32,611 --> 00:38:35,547 and she thought, "a-ha! I'll turn this to my advantage. 941 00:38:35,581 --> 00:38:38,517 "I'll frame my boyfriend, who is the most likely suspect 942 00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:39,685 if they put this together." 943 00:38:39,718 --> 00:38:41,487 So she slips the gun into Doug's pocket. 944 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,589 And Doug walks through without incident 945 00:38:43,622 --> 00:38:46,024 because the metal detector is broken. 946 00:38:46,057 --> 00:38:47,859 He doesn't notice the gun in his pocket 947 00:38:47,893 --> 00:38:49,795 until midway through our profiling and he panics. 948 00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:52,731 What did you put in my pocket?! 949 00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,533 Gun! drop it! 950 00:38:54,566 --> 00:38:56,101 He assumes, like all truthers, 951 00:38:56,134 --> 00:38:57,636 that no one in the government is gonna believe him, 952 00:38:57,669 --> 00:38:59,405 so his last words aren't to us, 953 00:38:59,438 --> 00:39:00,439 but to Melissa. 954 00:39:00,472 --> 00:39:03,775 I know a false flag when I see one. 955 00:39:03,809 --> 00:39:05,444 You bitch! 956 00:39:05,477 --> 00:39:06,678 [gunshot] 957 00:39:06,712 --> 00:39:09,815 That's the version that makes the most sense. 958 00:39:09,848 --> 00:39:11,717 Even if I buy it, a DA won't. 959 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:13,552 We need more, guys. 960 00:39:13,585 --> 00:39:14,553 Well, the only thing that's left 961 00:39:14,586 --> 00:39:15,921 is the bullet and the casing. 962 00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:17,589 But she could have dumped that anywhere. 963 00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:19,491 No, that's not the only thing. The podcast. 964 00:39:19,525 --> 00:39:20,926 She--she had us right where she wanted. 965 00:39:20,959 --> 00:39:23,462 She could have posted the audio of our conversation 966 00:39:23,495 --> 00:39:25,564 to prove we were trying to cover this up, 967 00:39:25,597 --> 00:39:27,466 but instead she deleted it. 968 00:39:27,499 --> 00:39:28,767 Which she only would have done 969 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,436 if she had revealed herself somehow. 970 00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:31,770 She didn't say anything incriminating 971 00:39:31,803 --> 00:39:33,405 when I talked to her. 972 00:39:33,439 --> 00:39:34,640 Me neither. 973 00:39:34,673 --> 00:39:36,575 Then it was me. She let something slip, 974 00:39:36,608 --> 00:39:38,510 something she doesn't want me to remember. 975 00:39:38,544 --> 00:39:41,447 So, what? 976 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,116 Aurora, Orlando, sandy hook. 977 00:39:45,150 --> 00:39:46,652 The united states government 978 00:39:46,685 --> 00:39:48,754 shot up a bunch of empty buildings 979 00:39:48,787 --> 00:39:50,489 and then gathered everything up 980 00:39:50,522 --> 00:39:51,957 and traded it amongst themselves, 981 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:55,427 because that's how plausible deniability works. 982 00:39:55,461 --> 00:39:56,428 [exhales] 983 00:39:56,462 --> 00:39:57,496 She traded it. 984 00:39:57,529 --> 00:39:58,730 Traded what? 985 00:39:58,764 --> 00:40:00,532 The bullet and the shell casing. 986 00:40:00,566 --> 00:40:02,033 She took the evidence and she gave it to someone else. 987 00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:03,635 And you know this because... 988 00:40:03,669 --> 00:40:05,937 Think about a conspiracy theory like a pathology. 989 00:40:05,971 --> 00:40:08,740 What disgusts her, what she fears most in other people, 990 00:40:08,774 --> 00:40:09,908 that's the action she'll copy 991 00:40:09,941 --> 00:40:11,810 to justify her own belief system. 992 00:40:11,843 --> 00:40:13,545 So who has the bullet? 993 00:40:13,579 --> 00:40:15,914 Who else? 994 00:40:15,947 --> 00:40:17,449 The unsub we've been looking for 995 00:40:17,483 --> 00:40:18,950 is Melissa miller, and we think 996 00:40:18,984 --> 00:40:20,452 she's made one of you an accomplice 997 00:40:20,486 --> 00:40:22,187 to her murder of Carl lee. 998 00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:24,556 Rossi: An unwitting accomplice. 999 00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:26,625 We aren't keeping you in custody. 1000 00:40:26,658 --> 00:40:28,226 Anyone who wants to leave can, 1001 00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:29,961 and everyone that wanted representation 1002 00:40:29,995 --> 00:40:31,563 has a lawyer present. 1003 00:40:31,597 --> 00:40:33,865 All we want is for you to listen to our theory. 1004 00:40:33,899 --> 00:40:36,702 After Carl lee's murder, Melissa approached one of you 1005 00:40:36,735 --> 00:40:38,504 and she told you that the US government 1006 00:40:38,537 --> 00:40:40,472 was going to frame both Bryan and Carl's murder 1007 00:40:40,506 --> 00:40:41,507 on the truthers. 1008 00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:43,809 Right on cue, we showed up. 1009 00:40:43,842 --> 00:40:46,512 So, she gave you a box or bag, 1010 00:40:46,545 --> 00:40:47,846 told you not to look inside, 1011 00:40:47,879 --> 00:40:49,681 said it was all part of our cover-up. 1012 00:40:49,715 --> 00:40:52,551 What she gave you was material evidence 1013 00:40:52,584 --> 00:40:53,852 of Carl's murder. 1014 00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:55,754 Now, you can think what you want of us, 1015 00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:57,923 we are not here to frame anyone. 1016 00:40:57,956 --> 00:41:00,859 We're not the murderers. She is. 1017 00:41:00,892 --> 00:41:05,897 Did anyone accept something like this from her? 1018 00:41:17,609 --> 00:41:19,678 I did. 1019 00:41:19,711 --> 00:41:22,714 It's--it's at my house. 1020 00:41:34,693 --> 00:41:37,128 You know what that is, Melissa? 1021 00:41:39,898 --> 00:41:43,935 That is a magic bullet. 1022 00:41:47,606 --> 00:41:49,174 Stand up. 1023 00:41:50,976 --> 00:41:53,645 Melissa miller, you are under arrest 1024 00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:55,547 for the murder of Carl lee. 1025 00:41:55,581 --> 00:41:57,849 You have the right to remain silent. 1026 00:41:57,883 --> 00:42:01,687 You have the right to an attorney. 1027 00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:07,859 So we faked ourselves on the ending * 1028 00:42:07,893 --> 00:42:13,565 And breathe in their lies * 1029 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:19,571 While the water brings no cleansing * 1030 00:42:19,605 --> 00:42:24,743 Just reflects strangers' eyes * 1031 00:42:24,776 --> 00:42:27,679 Lewis: "everyone is entitled to his own opinion, 1032 00:42:27,713 --> 00:42:29,915 but not to his own facts." 1033 00:42:29,948 --> 00:42:31,950 Daniel Patrick Moynihan. 1034 00:42:31,983 --> 00:42:38,990 Truth was too hard to mention *75722

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