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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,835 --> 00:00:01,868 3, 2... 2 00:00:02,819 --> 00:00:03,936 [Show theme music] 3 00:00:04,468 --> 00:00:06,869 Here with us today is supervisory special agent 4 00:00:06,871 --> 00:00:09,538 David Rossi, renowned author and co-founder 5 00:00:09,540 --> 00:00:12,641 of the FBI's famed Behavioral Analysis Unit. 6 00:00:12,643 --> 00:00:15,110 His latest book, "Understanding Evil," 7 00:00:15,112 --> 00:00:18,580 is an in-depth portrait of the serial killer Tommy Yates. 8 00:00:18,582 --> 00:00:19,848 Thanks for joining us, Agent Rossi. 9 00:00:19,850 --> 00:00:21,150 My pleasure, Brian. 10 00:00:21,152 --> 00:00:22,851 Of the hundreds of murderers 11 00:00:22,853 --> 00:00:23,886 that you've encountered, 12 00:00:23,888 --> 00:00:25,888 why did you choose to write about Yates? 13 00:00:25,890 --> 00:00:28,323 With him it was personal. 14 00:00:28,325 --> 00:00:30,025 Well, every year on your birthday, 15 00:00:30,027 --> 00:00:31,727 you would visit Yates in prison, 16 00:00:31,729 --> 00:00:33,629 and he'd give you the location of a body 17 00:00:33,631 --> 00:00:35,097 of one of his victims. 18 00:00:35,099 --> 00:00:36,465 Why is that? 19 00:00:36,467 --> 00:00:39,401 Tommy Yates was in an 8-by-6-foot cell. 20 00:00:39,403 --> 00:00:43,205 Every second of his life was dictated. 21 00:00:43,207 --> 00:00:44,773 So it was a game to him. 22 00:00:44,775 --> 00:00:46,742 It was. And I played along 23 00:00:46,744 --> 00:00:48,177 in order to provide closure 24 00:00:48,179 --> 00:00:49,712 to those families. 25 00:00:49,714 --> 00:00:51,313 It can't be easy to find common ground 26 00:00:51,315 --> 00:00:52,981 with a sadistic murderer. 27 00:00:52,983 --> 00:00:54,416 How did you do that? 28 00:00:54,418 --> 00:00:55,851 Oh, good! We didn't miss it. 29 00:00:55,853 --> 00:00:56,985 Garcia: Nope, just started. 30 00:00:56,987 --> 00:00:58,353 Rossi: You have to show respect to... 31 00:00:58,355 --> 00:00:59,888 We're up to our eyeballs in cases. 32 00:00:59,890 --> 00:01:01,623 The guy never takes a vacation. 33 00:01:01,625 --> 00:01:03,726 I want to know when he'd find the time 34 00:01:03,728 --> 00:01:05,160 to write another book. 35 00:01:05,162 --> 00:01:08,764 Someone must have put his mandatory 6 weeks off to good use. 36 00:01:08,766 --> 00:01:10,065 Anybody heard from Tara? 37 00:01:10,067 --> 00:01:11,867 Oh, she's finishing up with Floyd Ferell. 38 00:01:11,869 --> 00:01:13,035 She'll be back in D.C. soon. 39 00:01:13,037 --> 00:01:14,436 I'm DVRing this for her and Reid. 40 00:01:14,438 --> 00:01:15,738 They didn't want to miss it either. 41 00:01:15,740 --> 00:01:18,340 Oh, I hope his first night teaching goes well. 42 00:01:18,342 --> 00:01:20,542 He was a little nervous about it. 43 00:01:20,544 --> 00:01:22,845 Brian: This book feels like it's part memoir, 44 00:01:22,847 --> 00:01:26,115 more so than your others. Is that only because of Yates? 45 00:01:26,117 --> 00:01:29,451 Not necessarily. Some of it was necessity. 46 00:01:29,453 --> 00:01:31,487 How so? 47 00:01:31,489 --> 00:01:32,588 Well, I've spent my entire career 48 00:01:32,590 --> 00:01:34,123 exploring other people's minds, 49 00:01:34,125 --> 00:01:36,325 but very little time exploring my own. 50 00:01:36,327 --> 00:01:38,527 And what did you find? 51 00:01:38,529 --> 00:01:40,796 That obsession is not necessarily 52 00:01:40,798 --> 00:01:44,066 a path traveled only by serial killers. 53 00:01:44,068 --> 00:01:45,501 How come? 54 00:01:45,503 --> 00:01:47,770 Well, profilers and serial killers 55 00:01:47,772 --> 00:01:51,039 overlap in more ways than I would have imagined. 56 00:01:51,041 --> 00:01:53,142 We're both mission-oriented 57 00:01:53,144 --> 00:01:56,145 and driven by need-based desires. 58 00:01:56,147 --> 00:01:58,914 And the key difference is that while they 59 00:01:58,916 --> 00:02:01,917 take lives, we do our best to preserve them. 60 00:02:01,919 --> 00:02:04,253 Sorry to interrupt, but we have breaking news. 61 00:02:04,255 --> 00:02:07,156 Earlier tonight was a third in what Miami police 62 00:02:07,158 --> 00:02:09,925 are calling a string of robbery-murders. 63 00:02:09,927 --> 00:02:14,229 It started last week near Coral Gables university. 64 00:02:14,231 --> 00:02:16,465 But I should warn you is, what you're about to see 65 00:02:16,467 --> 00:02:18,267 could be considered graphic. 66 00:02:18,269 --> 00:02:22,204 [Indistinct chatter, sirens] 67 00:02:22,206 --> 00:02:25,007 Officer: Keep it blocked off. Please, ma'am. 68 00:02:25,009 --> 00:02:26,909 Brian: Agent Rossi, would you care to comment? 69 00:02:26,911 --> 00:02:30,412 I would like to talk to Miami police before doing so. 70 00:02:30,414 --> 00:02:32,481 I understand. Again, the book is 71 00:02:32,483 --> 00:02:34,650 - [cell phone vibrates] - "Understanding Evil." 72 00:02:34,652 --> 00:02:36,385 She was parked when the unsub came up and shot her. 73 00:02:36,387 --> 00:02:37,753 She might not have even seen him coming. 74 00:02:37,755 --> 00:02:39,621 Locals just sent over the details. 75 00:02:39,623 --> 00:02:41,423 They believe it's a series of robbery-homicides, 76 00:02:41,425 --> 00:02:43,759 but he only robbed the first victim. 77 00:02:43,761 --> 00:02:46,195 Robbery could be a forensic countermeasure 78 00:02:46,197 --> 00:02:48,564 to try and keep the cops from tying the cases together. 79 00:02:48,566 --> 00:02:51,033 A big city like Miami, how do we even know they're related? 80 00:02:51,035 --> 00:02:54,169 Ballistics match. He used a .44-caliber. 81 00:02:54,171 --> 00:02:56,338 Bold choice. That's a big gun. 82 00:02:56,340 --> 00:02:58,473 Then there's the victims... Maggie Swanson, 83 00:02:58,475 --> 00:03:01,677 Katherine Shelton, and now Jeannette Clauson. 84 00:03:01,679 --> 00:03:04,246 Each shot once in the heart, they died instantly. 85 00:03:04,248 --> 00:03:07,683 He's got a type. And the unsub could be a scorned lover. 86 00:03:07,685 --> 00:03:10,622 We're going to meet Dave in Miami. Wheels up in 10. 87 00:03:18,429 --> 00:03:20,729 That place was cool, right? 88 00:03:20,731 --> 00:03:22,130 Yeah. 89 00:03:22,132 --> 00:03:24,633 I took my sister there once. 90 00:03:24,635 --> 00:03:26,768 She was visiting from Seattle. 91 00:03:26,770 --> 00:03:28,637 We had a really good time. 92 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,140 You took me to the same place you took your sister? 93 00:03:32,142 --> 00:03:34,776 Well, uh, yeah, but, 94 00:03:34,778 --> 00:03:39,181 I mean... I know how that sounds. 95 00:03:39,183 --> 00:03:41,450 Look, I know this great pub 96 00:03:41,452 --> 00:03:43,185 not too far from here. 97 00:03:43,187 --> 00:03:46,421 Maybe next time instead of just dinner? 98 00:03:46,423 --> 00:03:49,024 Um, I should go. 99 00:03:49,026 --> 00:03:52,995 Uh, it's only 9:30. 100 00:03:52,997 --> 00:03:55,397 Yeah, I'm sorry. I just have an early morning. 101 00:03:55,399 --> 00:03:57,032 I'm sure you do, too. 102 00:03:57,034 --> 00:04:00,035 Yeah. Do you need a ride? 103 00:04:00,037 --> 00:04:04,014 Thanks. I would, but my car is just down the street. 104 00:04:04,575 --> 00:04:08,043 Well, why don't you text me, then, when you get home. 105 00:04:08,045 --> 00:04:09,711 So I know you're safe. 106 00:04:09,713 --> 00:04:10,779 Ok? 107 00:04:10,781 --> 00:04:13,415 Yeah, ok. 108 00:04:15,786 --> 00:04:18,987 Uh... it was nice to meet you, Steven. 109 00:04:18,989 --> 00:04:20,455 Good night. 110 00:04:28,186 --> 00:04:32,707 _ 111 00:04:47,885 --> 00:04:50,052 [Line ringing] 112 00:04:50,054 --> 00:04:51,086 Woman: Hello. 113 00:04:51,088 --> 00:04:52,154 Hey, it's me. 114 00:04:52,156 --> 00:04:53,088 How'd it go? 115 00:04:53,090 --> 00:04:54,623 Yeah, I mean, it started off ok, 116 00:04:54,625 --> 00:04:56,792 but, I don't know, it just got weird. 117 00:04:56,794 --> 00:04:58,727 I got this vibe from him. 118 00:04:58,729 --> 00:04:59,928 [Taps on window] 119 00:04:59,930 --> 00:05:01,229 You think you can just blow me off? 120 00:05:01,231 --> 00:05:02,531 Woman on phone: Who is that? 121 00:05:02,533 --> 00:05:03,699 Steven, it's not like that. 122 00:05:03,701 --> 00:05:05,500 - Woman: Natalie? - What the hell are you doing? 123 00:05:05,502 --> 00:05:07,102 - Woman: Natalie? - Stop it, Steven! 124 00:05:07,104 --> 00:05:08,437 - No. - Woman: Oh, my god. Who is that? 125 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:09,705 No. 126 00:05:09,707 --> 00:05:10,939 Woman: Natalie, what's happening? 127 00:05:10,941 --> 00:05:12,174 - Stop it! - No! You don't get to tell me... 128 00:05:12,176 --> 00:05:13,342 [Gunshot] 129 00:05:13,344 --> 00:05:15,577 Woman: Oh, my god! Natalie! Natalie! 130 00:05:15,579 --> 00:05:18,647 [Natalie screaming] 131 00:05:18,649 --> 00:05:19,815 [Gunshot] 132 00:05:20,803 --> 00:05:23,896 Synced and corrected by deglinglau www.addic7ed.com 133 00:05:52,946 --> 00:05:54,245 Prentiss: "The spectacle is capital", 134 00:05:54,247 --> 00:05:57,515 accumulated to the point where it becomes image." 135 00:05:57,517 --> 00:05:59,783 Guy Debord. 136 00:05:59,953 --> 00:06:01,986 All 3 victims lived in the same area 137 00:06:01,988 --> 00:06:03,588 and led low-risk lifestyles. 138 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:05,890 The physical type is what attracts him. 139 00:06:05,892 --> 00:06:08,626 There doesn't seem to be any other obvious link on paper. 140 00:06:08,628 --> 00:06:10,395 Alvez: Yeah, there were no red flags 141 00:06:10,397 --> 00:06:11,729 on any of their backgrounds. 142 00:06:11,731 --> 00:06:13,198 They were just living their lives. 143 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,166 Which is mostly just work and hanging out with friends. 144 00:06:15,168 --> 00:06:17,068 Maggie loved cats, Katherine was a hiker, 145 00:06:17,070 --> 00:06:18,903 and Jeannette loved the Ramones. 146 00:06:18,905 --> 00:06:21,439 Better get in line there, brother. Who doesn't love them? 147 00:06:21,441 --> 00:06:24,242 Sorry to startle you. We just got buzzed by Miami PD. 148 00:06:24,244 --> 00:06:25,877 Crime-fighters, there's a ballistic match 149 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:28,580 on two more victims that were shot tonight. 150 00:06:28,582 --> 00:06:30,381 And check it out... the girl. 151 00:06:30,383 --> 00:06:32,650 She looks just like the others, in their 20s, brunette. 152 00:06:32,652 --> 00:06:34,586 Garcia: Yeah, Natalie Corbis was a nurse, 153 00:06:34,588 --> 00:06:36,721 Steven O'Malley was a mechanical engineer. 154 00:06:36,723 --> 00:06:38,356 Both were very well-liked, and according to friends 155 00:06:38,358 --> 00:06:40,391 on social media, they were on a first date. 156 00:06:40,393 --> 00:06:42,660 Well, there's a couple other firsts here. 157 00:06:42,662 --> 00:06:45,430 Two bodies at the same time and one of them's male. 158 00:06:45,432 --> 00:06:47,799 So was he collateral damage or a target? 159 00:06:47,801 --> 00:06:51,302 5 victims in one week, 3 in the last 12 hours. 160 00:06:51,304 --> 00:06:53,338 It feels like our unsub's on a spree. 161 00:06:53,340 --> 00:06:55,039 Prentiss: Dave's already on his way to the M.E. 162 00:06:55,041 --> 00:06:56,274 Matt, you and I will set up at the station. 163 00:06:56,276 --> 00:06:58,876 JJ, Luke, go to the latest crime scene. 164 00:07:06,953 --> 00:07:11,256 So Steven's standing here, Natalie's inside the car, 165 00:07:11,258 --> 00:07:14,025 bang and bang. 166 00:07:14,227 --> 00:07:16,227 It feels like they were saying good night, 167 00:07:16,229 --> 00:07:18,596 but we know Steven wasn't going home with her. 168 00:07:18,598 --> 00:07:20,765 The unsub wouldn't know that. 169 00:07:20,767 --> 00:07:24,135 If he's a jilted lover, he'd see Steven as a surrogate, 170 00:07:24,137 --> 00:07:26,037 the guy who stole his girl. 171 00:07:26,039 --> 00:07:27,572 If he had his heart broken recently, 172 00:07:27,574 --> 00:07:29,240 that could be the reason for the spree. 173 00:07:29,242 --> 00:07:31,409 Maybe his ex got engaged. 174 00:07:31,411 --> 00:07:33,645 Or pregnant. And that's why he's lashing out. 175 00:07:33,647 --> 00:07:35,613 So time of death was 176 00:07:35,615 --> 00:07:37,015 just before they were found. 177 00:07:37,017 --> 00:07:38,249 It was like, what, 5 minutes? 178 00:07:38,251 --> 00:07:39,517 No, two. 179 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:41,819 Jeez, this guy's cutting it close. 180 00:07:41,821 --> 00:07:46,990 Well, a .44 Magnum has got a big bang. 181 00:07:47,627 --> 00:07:49,560 Maybe that's the point. 182 00:07:49,562 --> 00:07:52,230 He wants the attention. 183 00:07:52,232 --> 00:07:54,866 Loud gun. Attracts a big crowd. 184 00:07:54,868 --> 00:07:57,201 Right? Adds to his thrill. 185 00:07:57,203 --> 00:08:00,471 Yeah. So would sticking around to watch his work. 186 00:08:00,473 --> 00:08:02,240 Don't think of him as a spree killer, 187 00:08:02,242 --> 00:08:03,875 think of him as a fire-starter. 188 00:08:03,877 --> 00:08:07,178 That's why no one sees him flee the scene. 189 00:08:07,180 --> 00:08:09,714 Could be a first responder. 190 00:08:09,716 --> 00:08:12,917 But police, paramedics, witnesses, 191 00:08:12,919 --> 00:08:14,385 they'd have to give a statement. 192 00:08:14,387 --> 00:08:16,587 Yeah, if he was on more than one police report, 193 00:08:16,589 --> 00:08:19,057 he'd be on our radar. 194 00:08:19,059 --> 00:08:21,192 Well, maybe he sticks around to watch 195 00:08:21,194 --> 00:08:24,729 and just doesn't draw attention to himself. 196 00:08:24,731 --> 00:08:27,765 This guy hides in plain sight. 197 00:08:38,970 --> 00:08:40,525 _ 198 00:08:55,528 --> 00:08:58,563 [Indistinct chatter] 199 00:08:58,565 --> 00:09:00,598 Man: Excuse me. Over here, please. 200 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,900 [Overlapping conversations] 201 00:09:02,902 --> 00:09:04,302 Woman: When will you be releasing... 202 00:09:04,304 --> 00:09:05,970 Second woman: Why did the police call in the FBI? 203 00:09:05,972 --> 00:09:07,205 Second man: What can you tell us about the latest victims? 204 00:09:07,207 --> 00:09:08,740 Hey, is it safe to go out at night? 205 00:09:08,742 --> 00:09:10,708 We appreciate your interest and concern, 206 00:09:10,710 --> 00:09:13,211 but the FBI has no comment at this time. 207 00:09:13,213 --> 00:09:15,320 No comment? 208 00:09:15,582 --> 00:09:17,782 Wallenberg: Sorry about the vultures outside. 209 00:09:17,784 --> 00:09:20,218 We're doing everything we can to keep them at bay. 210 00:09:20,220 --> 00:09:22,620 It's ok. They've got a job to do. So do we. 211 00:09:22,622 --> 00:09:24,555 We did some initial interviews with the families 212 00:09:24,557 --> 00:09:26,257 and found something interesting. 213 00:09:26,259 --> 00:09:27,825 This guy might be... 214 00:09:27,827 --> 00:09:29,844 What? 215 00:09:29,996 --> 00:09:32,530 Again? Excuse me. 216 00:09:32,532 --> 00:09:34,599 I'll be right back. 217 00:09:47,914 --> 00:09:49,947 Hair clips. 218 00:09:49,949 --> 00:09:51,849 What about them? 219 00:09:51,851 --> 00:09:54,252 No, all the victims are wearing them. 220 00:09:54,254 --> 00:09:55,853 They're generic. 221 00:09:55,855 --> 00:09:57,755 But they're all placed in the same spot 222 00:09:57,757 --> 00:09:59,257 right here behind the left ear. 223 00:09:59,259 --> 00:10:01,092 Oh, that must be what detective Wallenberg 224 00:10:01,094 --> 00:10:02,794 found out from the family interviews. 225 00:10:02,796 --> 00:10:05,363 The vics didn't wear these, so the unsub placed them. 226 00:10:05,365 --> 00:10:07,198 Ritual aspect would keep him at the scene longer, 227 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,834 escalate his risk, which he may get off on. 228 00:10:09,836 --> 00:10:11,803 And going with Luke's theory, 229 00:10:11,805 --> 00:10:14,338 the woman he pines for may wear something like this. 230 00:10:14,340 --> 00:10:16,374 Um, they're pretty dated. 231 00:10:16,376 --> 00:10:18,509 I'm not sure we should limit it to romance. 232 00:10:18,511 --> 00:10:22,380 These feel more like something a mother or a teacher would wear. 233 00:10:22,382 --> 00:10:24,081 It's also strange how private he made it. 234 00:10:24,083 --> 00:10:25,650 I mean, the placement of these clips 235 00:10:25,652 --> 00:10:27,485 makes it really difficult to see. 236 00:10:27,487 --> 00:10:30,955 Everything he does is to be seen. 237 00:10:30,957 --> 00:10:34,959 So why is the unsub hiding this? 238 00:10:34,961 --> 00:10:36,727 Well, let's check with the manufacturer of those clips, 239 00:10:36,729 --> 00:10:38,262 see where they're sold. 240 00:10:38,264 --> 00:10:39,764 That could be a good starting point. 241 00:10:39,766 --> 00:10:42,667 My guess is online and in every drugstore across Miami. 242 00:10:42,669 --> 00:10:45,236 Well, the good news is, they're only visible in official CSPs. 243 00:10:45,238 --> 00:10:47,104 They can't be seen anywhere in media coverage. 244 00:10:47,106 --> 00:10:48,806 Great. That'll buy us some time 245 00:10:48,808 --> 00:10:51,576 before the public finds out. 246 00:10:51,578 --> 00:10:53,444 What the... 247 00:10:54,797 --> 00:10:57,679 _ 248 00:10:57,984 --> 00:11:00,685 How does Channel 3 know? 249 00:11:00,687 --> 00:11:03,087 Let's find out. 250 00:11:05,992 --> 00:11:09,227 This is exactly the kind of thing that we needed. 251 00:11:09,229 --> 00:11:10,962 Great work, Kal. 252 00:11:10,964 --> 00:11:12,196 Mm-hmm. 253 00:11:12,198 --> 00:11:13,631 So now we have to name him... 254 00:11:13,633 --> 00:11:16,133 Something evocative, like Son of Sam 255 00:11:16,135 --> 00:11:19,036 or BTK or Zodiac. 256 00:11:19,038 --> 00:11:20,571 Anyone? 257 00:11:20,573 --> 00:11:21,939 The Miami mauler? 258 00:11:21,941 --> 00:11:24,642 What is he, an escaped lion from the zoo? 259 00:11:24,644 --> 00:11:25,943 [Laughter] 260 00:11:25,945 --> 00:11:28,646 What do you see? 261 00:11:30,283 --> 00:11:32,450 Shot-out window. 262 00:11:32,452 --> 00:11:34,785 A neon light. 263 00:11:35,955 --> 00:11:38,089 The neon terror 264 00:11:38,091 --> 00:11:40,424 strikes again. 265 00:11:40,426 --> 00:11:42,260 Naming the unsub is a grave mistake. 266 00:11:42,262 --> 00:11:44,262 It romanticizes him in the public's mind 267 00:11:44,264 --> 00:11:46,631 and in turn gives him a sense of power and control 268 00:11:46,633 --> 00:11:48,332 he desperately craves. 269 00:11:48,334 --> 00:11:51,736 Agents, I'm Sandra Madsen. 270 00:11:51,738 --> 00:11:53,170 I'm the news director here. 271 00:11:53,172 --> 00:11:55,106 What can I do for you? 272 00:11:55,108 --> 00:11:57,441 Is there some place we can talk? 273 00:11:57,443 --> 00:11:59,143 Sure. Follow me. 274 00:11:59,145 --> 00:12:00,611 Back to work, everyone. 275 00:12:00,613 --> 00:12:03,347 We can talk over here. 276 00:12:03,349 --> 00:12:06,517 I've never had a visit from the FBI before. 277 00:12:06,519 --> 00:12:08,252 It must be important. 278 00:12:08,254 --> 00:12:10,488 How can I help you, Agents? 279 00:12:10,490 --> 00:12:13,324 Well, we saw your report on the matching clips 280 00:12:13,326 --> 00:12:15,026 found in the female victims' hair. 281 00:12:15,028 --> 00:12:16,694 That was great work. 282 00:12:16,696 --> 00:12:18,195 See, we actually just made 283 00:12:18,197 --> 00:12:20,131 that same connection ourselves. 284 00:12:20,133 --> 00:12:22,266 How did you do it? 285 00:12:22,268 --> 00:12:23,668 Well, we here at Channel 3 286 00:12:23,670 --> 00:12:25,069 are able to make deductions 287 00:12:25,071 --> 00:12:28,105 based on the footage, same as the FBI. 288 00:12:28,107 --> 00:12:30,474 Rossi: Of course. But the thing is, 289 00:12:30,476 --> 00:12:33,444 you can't see the clips in the media footage, 290 00:12:33,446 --> 00:12:36,814 only in the official crime scene photos. 291 00:12:36,816 --> 00:12:38,349 JJ: The killer must have reached out 292 00:12:38,351 --> 00:12:40,017 to one of your reporters? 293 00:12:40,019 --> 00:12:42,286 No, if he did, I'd know. 294 00:12:42,288 --> 00:12:45,289 We got those photos from a protected source. 295 00:12:45,291 --> 00:12:47,491 Meaning someone on the police force. 296 00:12:47,493 --> 00:12:50,728 Ok, I'm not answering any more questions 297 00:12:50,730 --> 00:12:52,830 until there's a lawyer on my side of the room 298 00:12:52,832 --> 00:12:54,565 and a warrant on yours. 299 00:12:54,567 --> 00:12:57,034 Ma'am, people are dying. 300 00:12:57,036 --> 00:12:59,470 Yes, I know. And it's my job 301 00:12:59,472 --> 00:13:01,105 to keep the public informed. 302 00:13:01,107 --> 00:13:02,873 It's your job to keep them safe. 303 00:13:02,875 --> 00:13:04,709 But when you need me to compromise 304 00:13:04,711 --> 00:13:07,144 my journalistic integrity, 305 00:13:07,146 --> 00:13:09,447 I have to draw the line. 306 00:13:10,984 --> 00:13:13,884 Well, um, if you change your mind, 307 00:13:13,886 --> 00:13:15,519 we'd really appreciate a call. 308 00:13:15,521 --> 00:13:16,954 Sure. 309 00:13:16,956 --> 00:13:19,256 Rossi: Thank you. 310 00:13:26,099 --> 00:13:28,766 Now we have a serial killer and a narcissist. 311 00:13:28,768 --> 00:13:30,434 Did you see that wall of fame? 312 00:13:30,436 --> 00:13:32,269 Uh, yeah. Every inch was covered 313 00:13:32,271 --> 00:13:34,105 with photos of her on camera. 314 00:13:34,107 --> 00:13:35,940 And she has covered everything, 315 00:13:35,942 --> 00:13:38,943 from hurricanes, the Versace murders, cartel wars, 316 00:13:38,945 --> 00:13:41,345 suburban homicides to gang violence. 317 00:13:41,347 --> 00:13:43,481 Sandra loves being on the front lines. 318 00:13:43,483 --> 00:13:46,283 But from what I saw, the awards stopped coming. 319 00:13:46,285 --> 00:13:48,352 Then becoming a news director 320 00:13:48,354 --> 00:13:50,287 would be a demotion for someone like her. 321 00:13:50,289 --> 00:13:53,090 No doubt. She's probably using this story 322 00:13:53,092 --> 00:13:54,959 to goose Channel 3's profile. 323 00:13:54,961 --> 00:13:57,094 Well, once that name goes public, 324 00:13:57,096 --> 00:13:59,397 he's going to get all the attention he wants. 325 00:13:59,399 --> 00:14:01,766 And that's only going to make the unsub take bigger risks, 326 00:14:01,768 --> 00:14:05,236 and bigger risks means more victims. 327 00:14:05,238 --> 00:14:07,071 Woman, reporting: Last night, Natalie Corbis 328 00:14:07,073 --> 00:14:09,306 and Steven O'Malley were both shot and killed 329 00:14:09,308 --> 00:14:11,008 in a trendy enclave of Miami 330 00:14:11,010 --> 00:14:12,743 filled with clubs and bars. 331 00:14:12,745 --> 00:14:14,879 Corbis was inside her car, 332 00:14:14,881 --> 00:14:16,914 and O'Malley was outside Natalie's car 333 00:14:16,916 --> 00:14:19,884 and were both shot once with a .44-caliber handgun. 334 00:14:19,886 --> 00:14:21,652 Reporter: Over here! Over here! 335 00:14:21,654 --> 00:14:23,120 Second reporter: Hey, right here, kid! 336 00:14:23,122 --> 00:14:25,089 [Cameras flashing] 337 00:14:25,091 --> 00:14:26,457 Woman, reporting: This is the fourth time 338 00:14:26,459 --> 00:14:28,759 in recent days that Miami residents have been shot 339 00:14:28,761 --> 00:14:30,628 with this caliber firearm. 340 00:14:30,630 --> 00:14:34,231 It is unknown at this time what the offender's motive is. 341 00:14:34,233 --> 00:14:35,700 Corbis, a nurse, 342 00:14:35,702 --> 00:14:37,601 and O'Malley, a mechanical engineer, 343 00:14:37,603 --> 00:14:39,403 had just left a local establishment. 344 00:14:39,405 --> 00:14:40,938 TV anchor: Thank you, Debra. 345 00:14:40,940 --> 00:14:43,541 Stay tuned for more details on this late-breaking story 346 00:14:43,543 --> 00:14:46,610 as Debra and our news team, Channel 3, 347 00:14:46,612 --> 00:14:49,180 will be on scene to bring you all the details 348 00:14:49,182 --> 00:14:50,514 as it happens... 349 00:14:50,516 --> 00:14:52,950 [Continues, indistinct] 350 00:14:52,952 --> 00:14:54,151 ♪ Pull up ♪ 351 00:14:54,153 --> 00:14:55,553 ♪ she's the center of attention ♪ 352 00:14:55,555 --> 00:14:57,722 ♪ she got everybody in this club wishing ♪ 353 00:14:57,724 --> 00:14:59,190 ♪ I can't wait to see you ♪ 354 00:14:59,192 --> 00:15:00,458 ♪ show up ♪ 355 00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:01,892 ♪ and she's always cool ♪ 356 00:15:01,894 --> 00:15:04,662 ♪ love breaking out everywhere ♪ 357 00:15:04,664 --> 00:15:07,198 ♪ I mean, I never seen your face here before ♪ 358 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,499 ♪ oh, my god ♪ 359 00:15:08,501 --> 00:15:10,868 ♪ I mean, I never seen a style like yours... ♪ 360 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:12,870 ♪ Oh, my god... ♪ 361 00:15:12,872 --> 00:15:15,740 ♪ Off the hook... ♪ 362 00:15:16,542 --> 00:15:18,442 ♪ I know, certainly... ♪ 363 00:15:18,444 --> 00:15:20,411 ♪ But now we hear they're livin' so large ♪ 364 00:15:20,413 --> 00:15:22,012 - [Radio shuts off] - ♪ oh, my god... ♪ 365 00:15:25,451 --> 00:15:27,885 Who the hell... 366 00:15:28,788 --> 00:15:31,622 Oh, my gosh! Please take whatever you want. 367 00:15:31,624 --> 00:15:33,991 Just... don't hurt me. 368 00:15:33,993 --> 00:15:35,726 [Breathing hard] 369 00:15:39,046 --> 00:15:40,712 Well, he likes his new nickname enough 370 00:15:40,714 --> 00:15:42,180 to bring his own neon. 371 00:15:43,962 --> 00:15:46,353 Despite the slight shift in M.O., 372 00:15:46,612 --> 00:15:48,812 he kept the same ritual aspect. 373 00:15:48,814 --> 00:15:50,480 Who's the victim? 374 00:15:50,482 --> 00:15:52,382 Lindsey Krukowski. She's the marketing manager 375 00:15:52,384 --> 00:15:54,577 at an apparel company and lived alone. 376 00:15:55,234 --> 00:15:56,567 Shot with the same .44? 377 00:15:56,712 --> 00:15:58,044 Looks that way. 378 00:15:58,046 --> 00:16:00,480 He must have been in hiding here somewhere, 379 00:16:00,482 --> 00:16:01,848 waiting to ambush her. 380 00:16:01,850 --> 00:16:03,083 Who called it in? 381 00:16:03,085 --> 00:16:05,118 Neighbor on a walk heard the gunshots. 382 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,188 He found Lindsey's body and called 911. 383 00:16:08,190 --> 00:16:10,423 Did he see any strangers around the neighborhood? 384 00:16:10,425 --> 00:16:12,092 No. And we canvassed the rest of the block, too. 385 00:16:12,094 --> 00:16:13,426 Nobody saw him. 386 00:16:13,428 --> 00:16:15,228 So like the nighttime crime scenes, 387 00:16:15,230 --> 00:16:17,364 this guy easily blends in. 388 00:16:17,366 --> 00:16:18,898 Wallenberg: But isn't this way less risky? 389 00:16:18,900 --> 00:16:20,433 He had all the time in the world 390 00:16:20,435 --> 00:16:22,035 and little chance of witnesses. 391 00:16:22,037 --> 00:16:23,570 He's betting that a home invasion 392 00:16:23,572 --> 00:16:25,372 is his best way to stay relevant. 393 00:16:25,374 --> 00:16:26,606 [Vehicles arriving] 394 00:16:26,608 --> 00:16:27,974 He bet right. 395 00:16:27,976 --> 00:16:29,909 [Indistinct chatter] 396 00:16:29,911 --> 00:16:32,512 JJ: They must have heard about it on the police scanner. 397 00:16:32,514 --> 00:16:33,713 You can get it as an app 398 00:16:33,715 --> 00:16:35,148 for your phone now. 399 00:16:35,150 --> 00:16:36,750 Yeah, I miss the days when that kind of equipment 400 00:16:36,752 --> 00:16:38,351 wasn't just a click away. 401 00:16:38,353 --> 00:16:41,621 We've ruled out that he's a first responder, right? 402 00:16:41,623 --> 00:16:44,725 What if he's another kind of responder? 403 00:16:45,127 --> 00:16:46,726 The media. 404 00:16:46,728 --> 00:16:48,695 Alvez: Yeah. 405 00:16:48,697 --> 00:16:50,530 Officer: You're gonna have to wait, ok, sir? 406 00:16:50,532 --> 00:16:52,999 When we thought the media might be stoking our unsub, 407 00:16:53,001 --> 00:16:55,468 we never considered he might be one of them. 408 00:16:55,470 --> 00:16:57,737 It checks some of the boxes. 409 00:16:57,739 --> 00:17:00,140 Risk-taking, ability to blend in. 410 00:17:00,142 --> 00:17:02,442 It explains why no one questions him at the scene. 411 00:17:02,444 --> 00:17:03,877 He's supposed to be here. 412 00:17:03,879 --> 00:17:05,478 If he is part of the media, 413 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,147 do you think he's also filming it? 414 00:17:07,149 --> 00:17:09,449 I don't know. We'd have to go through all of the footage. 415 00:17:09,451 --> 00:17:11,251 Every station is covering this. 416 00:17:11,253 --> 00:17:12,919 It's gonna take a lot of time. 417 00:17:12,921 --> 00:17:14,421 We got all hands on deck. 418 00:17:14,423 --> 00:17:15,855 Whatever you need, we're here. 419 00:17:15,857 --> 00:17:17,557 Great. Thank you. 420 00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:19,359 Let's deliver this profile. 421 00:17:20,696 --> 00:17:23,596 Prentiss: We believe the unsub may be a member of the media. 422 00:17:23,598 --> 00:17:25,865 It's these credentials that likely allow him 423 00:17:25,867 --> 00:17:28,835 to easily blend in at the crime scenes, no questions asked. 424 00:17:28,837 --> 00:17:31,371 We're currently sifting through all local TV, print, 425 00:17:31,373 --> 00:17:34,140 and digital journalists in order to build a suspect pool. 426 00:17:34,142 --> 00:17:37,377 Alvez: But as you know, Miami's a big market, 427 00:17:37,379 --> 00:17:39,879 lots of media outlets, so it'll take some time. 428 00:17:39,881 --> 00:17:42,949 Now, we aren't sure if he films the crime scenes 429 00:17:42,951 --> 00:17:44,250 immediately after the murders 430 00:17:44,252 --> 00:17:46,286 or is responding with other news crews. 431 00:17:46,288 --> 00:17:48,455 Now, we have to think of this unsub in two parts. 432 00:17:48,457 --> 00:17:51,091 Ok, the first part, the part he's probably not aware of, 433 00:17:51,093 --> 00:17:52,459 is who he's killing. 434 00:17:52,461 --> 00:17:55,295 Ok. We believe the victims represent a personal loss. 435 00:17:55,297 --> 00:17:58,531 It's most likely a maternal figure or a caregiver. 436 00:17:58,533 --> 00:18:01,267 The hair clip is his symbolic way 437 00:18:01,269 --> 00:18:03,903 of remaking his victims into that woman. 438 00:18:03,905 --> 00:18:07,474 But the second part, the part that he's very aware of... 439 00:18:07,476 --> 00:18:10,076 Prentiss: This unsub is obsessed with the media's representation 440 00:18:10,078 --> 00:18:11,845 of his murders. 441 00:18:11,847 --> 00:18:13,379 His dopamine levels rise 442 00:18:13,381 --> 00:18:14,848 when he's on the crime scene 443 00:18:14,850 --> 00:18:17,083 watching other people respond to what he's done. 444 00:18:17,085 --> 00:18:18,718 Right. Then they spike later, when he's at home 445 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,954 watching his footage on the evening news. 446 00:18:20,956 --> 00:18:22,722 Sounds like an addict. 447 00:18:22,724 --> 00:18:24,657 Very much so. He's masking the pain 448 00:18:24,659 --> 00:18:27,360 of a childhood trauma by escalating his risks, 449 00:18:27,362 --> 00:18:30,764 but that only adds to his power of control and excitement. 450 00:18:30,766 --> 00:18:32,398 That's why the nickname is a problem. 451 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,635 The media is feeding his ego directly, 452 00:18:35,637 --> 00:18:37,370 and he will respond in kind. 453 00:18:37,372 --> 00:18:39,439 Right now he's planning for the biggest bang possible. 454 00:18:39,441 --> 00:18:42,108 Ratings, likes, shares on social media 455 00:18:42,110 --> 00:18:43,576 probably all matter to him, 456 00:18:43,578 --> 00:18:45,445 so he could be tracking them. 457 00:18:45,447 --> 00:18:47,647 Prentiss: And because he's no longer focused on public crime scenes, 458 00:18:47,649 --> 00:18:51,284 we are asking all of you to cover as much ground as possible 459 00:18:51,286 --> 00:18:52,986 inside his hunting zone. 460 00:18:52,988 --> 00:18:54,921 It's very important that the information 461 00:18:54,923 --> 00:18:58,091 shared in this profile is not posted online 462 00:18:58,093 --> 00:18:59,692 or leaked to the media. 463 00:18:59,694 --> 00:19:01,961 Doing so could further embolden him 464 00:19:01,963 --> 00:19:03,563 and cause him to escalate. 465 00:19:03,565 --> 00:19:05,698 Thank you, all. 466 00:19:18,246 --> 00:19:19,679 It feels like we've been through every media member 467 00:19:19,681 --> 00:19:21,214 in the city, and we still got nothing. 468 00:19:21,216 --> 00:19:24,450 Even those Channel 3 jag-offs checked out. 469 00:19:24,452 --> 00:19:26,820 Well, maybe he's not a journalist. 470 00:19:26,822 --> 00:19:28,555 What is he, then? 471 00:19:28,557 --> 00:19:31,090 He could just be a digital loner. 472 00:19:31,092 --> 00:19:33,226 You see lots of guys and girls like that these days. 473 00:19:33,228 --> 00:19:35,929 They have the impulse to catalog their lives 474 00:19:35,931 --> 00:19:38,598 no matter how mundane it is to the rest of the world. 475 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,068 He could be cataloging these crime scene photos right now. 476 00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:43,369 That's an interesting idea, 477 00:19:43,371 --> 00:19:44,737 but how does he get in and out 478 00:19:44,739 --> 00:19:46,406 of the crime scene unnoticed? 479 00:19:46,408 --> 00:19:48,074 Well, that's kind of why I'm hitting the wall, too. 480 00:19:48,076 --> 00:19:49,843 I was hoping you might have a way around it. 481 00:19:49,845 --> 00:19:52,734 JJ: Hey, guys, look at this. 482 00:19:53,181 --> 00:19:58,384 Ok, so this was taken from just inside Lindsey's garage. 483 00:19:58,386 --> 00:20:00,887 What's missing? 484 00:20:00,889 --> 00:20:03,022 The cops. They're not there yet. 485 00:20:03,024 --> 00:20:05,258 But they responded within minutes. 486 00:20:05,260 --> 00:20:06,759 So whoever filmed this 487 00:20:06,761 --> 00:20:08,194 had to be there when it happened. 488 00:20:08,196 --> 00:20:10,496 Well, this was filmed by a Kal Montgomery 489 00:20:10,498 --> 00:20:12,131 at Channel 3. 490 00:20:12,133 --> 00:20:14,601 I checked their site. He's on their I.T. staff. 491 00:20:14,603 --> 00:20:16,135 First Channel 3 breaks the story 492 00:20:16,137 --> 00:20:18,171 about the hair clips, and now this. 493 00:20:18,173 --> 00:20:19,739 Well, if he's not a cameraman or a reporter, 494 00:20:19,741 --> 00:20:21,441 he wouldn't show up on our sweep. 495 00:20:21,443 --> 00:20:22,709 Oh, and I double-checked. 496 00:20:22,711 --> 00:20:24,844 His name is on every Neon Terror crime scene 497 00:20:24,846 --> 00:20:27,046 Channel 3's put on the news. 498 00:20:29,184 --> 00:20:32,752 Simmons: All right. I got him. Found him on social media. 499 00:20:32,754 --> 00:20:35,088 It looks like he's posted multiple rants 500 00:20:35,090 --> 00:20:36,623 about an ex-girlfriend 501 00:20:36,625 --> 00:20:39,125 who looks a lot like our victims. 502 00:20:39,127 --> 00:20:41,794 Rossi: Sounds like a digital loner to me. 503 00:20:41,796 --> 00:20:44,898 Let's go have a chat with Kal. 504 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,834 Great work, people! 505 00:20:47,836 --> 00:20:49,736 Our overnight ratings are up, 506 00:20:49,738 --> 00:20:51,771 and traffic to our site's quadrupled 507 00:20:51,773 --> 00:20:53,273 since the story broke. 508 00:20:53,275 --> 00:20:56,476 We need to talk to Kal Montgomery. 509 00:20:56,478 --> 00:20:58,544 Sandra: I do hope you have that warrant. 510 00:20:58,546 --> 00:21:02,015 He's a person of interest in a serial murder case. 511 00:21:02,017 --> 00:21:03,616 Uh... 512 00:21:03,618 --> 00:21:05,485 Kal, you're not speaking to anyone 513 00:21:05,487 --> 00:21:06,719 until there's a lawyer present. 514 00:21:06,721 --> 00:21:09,155 It's all right, Sandra. 515 00:21:09,157 --> 00:21:10,924 I'm fine. 516 00:21:12,227 --> 00:21:14,260 Let's go to my office. 517 00:21:17,766 --> 00:21:19,632 So, you've made quite a name for yourself 518 00:21:19,634 --> 00:21:21,167 on this story, Kal. 519 00:21:21,169 --> 00:21:22,302 Thank you. 520 00:21:22,304 --> 00:21:24,304 Your video from the last crime scene 521 00:21:24,306 --> 00:21:26,673 was taken before the police arrived? 522 00:21:26,675 --> 00:21:27,840 Why is that? 523 00:21:27,842 --> 00:21:29,108 I heard the call on the scanner. 524 00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:30,610 I was in the area, so I went. 525 00:21:30,612 --> 00:21:33,279 Sandra lets me go in the field and shoot video. 526 00:21:33,281 --> 00:21:35,014 You're a real Johnny-on-the-spot. 527 00:21:35,016 --> 00:21:38,051 JJ: Then how come the police never took your statement? 528 00:21:38,053 --> 00:21:39,619 Well, that was on me. 529 00:21:39,621 --> 00:21:41,821 We had to break the story before we got scooped. 530 00:21:41,823 --> 00:21:43,423 Rossi: You know, Kal, there's more to it 531 00:21:43,425 --> 00:21:44,691 than just fleeing the scene. 532 00:21:44,693 --> 00:21:46,292 There's the question about your ex, 533 00:21:46,294 --> 00:21:48,795 the one you're trashing on social media, 534 00:21:48,797 --> 00:21:51,064 the one that looks like the victims. 535 00:21:51,066 --> 00:21:53,633 You see how it adds up, Kal? 536 00:21:53,635 --> 00:21:55,134 JJ: Yeah, it looks to us 537 00:21:55,136 --> 00:21:56,936 like you killed Steven 538 00:21:56,938 --> 00:21:59,339 and all those women. 539 00:21:59,941 --> 00:22:03,276 I... I... I lied. 540 00:22:03,278 --> 00:22:04,978 I didn't film any of it. 541 00:22:06,614 --> 00:22:08,114 Sandra: Wait. What? 542 00:22:08,116 --> 00:22:10,917 Kal: One day, some stranger sends me a video 543 00:22:10,919 --> 00:22:12,685 of the first crime scene, tells me it's a gift, 544 00:22:12,687 --> 00:22:16,289 that I should post it as my own, so I did. 545 00:22:16,291 --> 00:22:18,257 Who did this stranger say he was? 546 00:22:18,259 --> 00:22:20,927 Kal: A Miami cop, which made even more sense 547 00:22:20,929 --> 00:22:22,495 when he sent close-ups of the hair clips. 548 00:22:22,497 --> 00:22:24,497 I thought they were official crime scene photos. 549 00:22:24,499 --> 00:22:26,532 Ok, we're gonna need all of that raw footage. 550 00:22:26,534 --> 00:22:29,068 I don't have it. He always sends the videos edited. 551 00:22:29,070 --> 00:22:30,770 I'll show you. Can I? 552 00:22:30,772 --> 00:22:32,405 Yeah, go ahead. 553 00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:47,977 _ 554 00:22:48,023 --> 00:22:51,457 JJ: Who is Quasar 22? 555 00:22:51,459 --> 00:22:53,259 That is an excellent question. 556 00:22:53,261 --> 00:22:55,628 I can tell you with 100% certainty 557 00:22:55,630 --> 00:22:57,563 it is not Kal Montgomery. 558 00:22:57,565 --> 00:22:59,065 His story completely checks out. 559 00:22:59,067 --> 00:23:00,700 Aside from being slightly morally repugnant, 560 00:23:00,702 --> 00:23:01,901 he's clean as a whistle. 561 00:23:01,903 --> 00:23:03,770 If that whistle was slightly morally repugnant. 562 00:23:03,772 --> 00:23:05,104 Simmons: So that clears him. 563 00:23:05,106 --> 00:23:07,173 But why did the unsub target Kal to begin with? 564 00:23:07,175 --> 00:23:08,541 Kal's ambitious. 565 00:23:08,543 --> 00:23:11,210 He must have known it and used it to his benefit. 566 00:23:11,212 --> 00:23:13,079 So he's smart enough not to expose himself, 567 00:23:13,081 --> 00:23:15,014 which is probably not easy for someone 568 00:23:15,016 --> 00:23:16,249 who's desperate for attention. 569 00:23:16,251 --> 00:23:17,784 Garcia: Also, I have to say whoever this is 570 00:23:17,786 --> 00:23:19,385 is, like, a tech wizard. 571 00:23:19,387 --> 00:23:21,354 Because I have used all the tools 572 00:23:21,356 --> 00:23:23,723 in my fantastic box, and he's, like, protected 573 00:23:23,725 --> 00:23:26,125 from the mother on high of all encryption packages 574 00:23:26,127 --> 00:23:27,760 and a secure server, 575 00:23:27,762 --> 00:23:29,362 plus an IP scrambler, 576 00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:32,231 which is not like the warm, eggy kind but the computery kind. 577 00:23:32,233 --> 00:23:35,601 So you've got nothing on the unsub's I.D. and location? 578 00:23:35,603 --> 00:23:37,670 No. I mean, according to my screens, 579 00:23:37,672 --> 00:23:39,272 it's all coming from Jamaica. 580 00:23:39,274 --> 00:23:40,706 Kingston, to be exact. 581 00:23:40,708 --> 00:23:42,375 It does not take a profiler to know 582 00:23:42,377 --> 00:23:43,709 that's completely bogus. 583 00:23:43,711 --> 00:23:45,144 Well, if he reached out to Channel 3, 584 00:23:45,146 --> 00:23:46,612 then he might have to other news outlets, too. 585 00:23:46,614 --> 00:23:48,648 Garcia, did he send the videos to anybody else? 586 00:23:48,650 --> 00:23:50,650 Just... just Kal at Channel 3. That's it. 587 00:23:50,652 --> 00:23:52,118 If the unsub is focused on them, 588 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:53,853 he must have a personal connection there. 589 00:23:53,855 --> 00:23:56,322 Garcia, look into former Channel 3 employees, 590 00:23:56,324 --> 00:23:58,091 see if any of them fit the profile. 591 00:23:58,093 --> 00:24:00,026 Copy, copy. 592 00:24:00,028 --> 00:24:02,562 You know what bothers me about this guy? 593 00:24:02,564 --> 00:24:05,331 Is it the fact that Kal might win a local news Emmy off him? 594 00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:08,067 Close. It's that with each crime scene, 595 00:24:08,069 --> 00:24:09,569 the window between the murder 596 00:24:09,571 --> 00:24:12,138 and the start of filming, it shrinks. 597 00:24:12,140 --> 00:24:13,673 Right? And at some point, 598 00:24:13,675 --> 00:24:15,041 that's gonna converge. 599 00:24:15,043 --> 00:24:18,878 Ok, we profiled he was going for a bigger bang. 600 00:24:19,781 --> 00:24:22,381 He's gonna make a snuff film. 601 00:24:28,790 --> 00:24:30,890 Woman: Over here! Over here! 602 00:24:30,892 --> 00:24:32,959 Man: Right here, kid! Look at me! 603 00:24:32,961 --> 00:24:34,894 [Cameras flashing] 604 00:24:34,896 --> 00:24:36,629 [Reporters shouting at once] 605 00:24:36,631 --> 00:24:39,198 Man: Are you ok? 606 00:25:21,609 --> 00:25:22,975 [Tap tap] 607 00:25:22,977 --> 00:25:24,678 What the hell? 608 00:25:26,514 --> 00:25:27,813 [Gunshot] 609 00:25:34,847 --> 00:25:37,053 Thank you for coming so fast. 610 00:25:37,055 --> 00:25:38,454 We didn't expect you to call. 611 00:25:38,464 --> 00:25:40,222 Well, now that I know that Kal's source 612 00:25:40,224 --> 00:25:41,497 is the killer, I had to. 613 00:25:41,497 --> 00:25:43,330 Did you or Kal watch the new video? 614 00:25:43,332 --> 00:25:45,133 I did. It's brutal. 615 00:26:15,497 --> 00:26:18,131 Sandra: Please tell me that little girl is still alive. 616 00:26:18,133 --> 00:26:20,267 Alvez: There's not much to go on here. 617 00:26:20,269 --> 00:26:23,237 There's no signage, buildings. 618 00:26:23,239 --> 00:26:25,572 You can't see the plates on the car. 619 00:26:25,574 --> 00:26:26,974 We don't even know their names. 620 00:26:26,976 --> 00:26:29,243 But we do have geography. 621 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,780 You see this? 622 00:26:33,782 --> 00:26:37,351 Well, the cement lamp post in the back. 623 00:26:37,353 --> 00:26:40,621 It's tall, like at a mall parking lot. 624 00:26:40,623 --> 00:26:42,422 But those are all across the city. 625 00:26:42,424 --> 00:26:43,824 They could have been anywhere. 626 00:26:43,826 --> 00:26:45,459 Yeah, but we know the unsub's comfort zone. 627 00:26:45,461 --> 00:26:46,260 Garcia: What's up? 628 00:26:46,354 --> 00:26:47,725 Garcia, how many shopping and strip malls 629 00:26:47,725 --> 00:26:49,625 are inside the unsub's hunting grounds? 630 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,963 - 5. - We need all 5. We'll split up. 631 00:26:58,207 --> 00:27:01,642 [Siren] 632 00:27:23,332 --> 00:27:25,165 Hi, sweetie. 633 00:27:25,167 --> 00:27:26,333 I'm Jennifer. 634 00:27:26,335 --> 00:27:28,635 Is somebody coming to help Nancy? 635 00:27:28,637 --> 00:27:31,972 Yeah. Yeah. Let's get you home. 636 00:27:31,974 --> 00:27:34,541 I want my mom and dad. 637 00:27:34,543 --> 00:27:37,878 Everything's gonna be ok. Don't worry. 638 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,847 [Sirens] 639 00:27:44,286 --> 00:27:45,886 Alvez: How is she doing? 640 00:27:45,888 --> 00:27:47,788 Good, considering. 641 00:27:47,790 --> 00:27:48,755 What's her name? 642 00:27:48,757 --> 00:27:50,257 Alex Grayson. 643 00:27:50,259 --> 00:27:52,793 The latest victim, Nancy Jones, 644 00:27:52,795 --> 00:27:54,328 was her cousin. 645 00:27:54,330 --> 00:27:56,930 She was babysitting while Alex's parents were out. 646 00:27:56,932 --> 00:27:58,732 It's a little late to be in a mall parking lot 647 00:27:58,734 --> 00:28:00,334 with a kid in the car. 648 00:28:00,336 --> 00:28:02,602 Yeah, well, when a kid can't sleep, 649 00:28:02,604 --> 00:28:04,504 a car ride's often the best way to get them down. 650 00:28:04,506 --> 00:28:06,239 Yeah, but if Alex was asleep, 651 00:28:06,241 --> 00:28:07,741 why not drive back home? 652 00:28:07,743 --> 00:28:09,609 She pulled over to answer a text 653 00:28:09,611 --> 00:28:10,978 from a guy she was gonna meet. 654 00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:14,414 There's no way Nancy was chosen at random. 655 00:28:14,416 --> 00:28:16,583 You know, you're right. 656 00:28:16,585 --> 00:28:18,418 This guy's a planner. 657 00:28:18,420 --> 00:28:21,421 He doesn't do random. He must have stalked her. 658 00:28:21,423 --> 00:28:24,825 And if he did, then he knew there was a kid in the car. 659 00:28:24,827 --> 00:28:29,029 The question is... and I hate to ask... 660 00:28:29,031 --> 00:28:31,365 Why is Alex still alive? 661 00:28:31,367 --> 00:28:34,368 I don't know. He's never shown a moral compass, 662 00:28:34,370 --> 00:28:35,769 so why now? 663 00:28:35,771 --> 00:28:37,871 Maybe the unsub's a dad. 664 00:28:37,873 --> 00:28:40,707 Or maybe something happened to him when he was little. 665 00:28:40,709 --> 00:28:42,545 This way. 666 00:28:42,611 --> 00:28:44,811 Father: Agent Jareau, thank you so much 667 00:28:44,813 --> 00:28:45,912 for finding our little girl. 668 00:28:45,914 --> 00:28:47,647 Of course. 669 00:28:57,693 --> 00:28:59,760 [Indistinct chatter outside] 670 00:29:03,899 --> 00:29:07,567 [Reporters all talking at once] 671 00:29:07,569 --> 00:29:09,536 Man: This way, please! Alex? 672 00:29:09,538 --> 00:29:11,438 [Chatter continues] 673 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,573 Wait a minute. 674 00:29:15,973 --> 00:29:17,647 _ 675 00:29:19,515 --> 00:29:21,648 That's it. 676 00:29:21,650 --> 00:29:24,084 When Rossi and I were at Channel 3, 677 00:29:24,086 --> 00:29:25,652 we saw Sandra's wall of fame. 678 00:29:25,654 --> 00:29:27,721 On it, there was a little boy and his father 679 00:29:27,723 --> 00:29:29,556 in roughly the same position. 680 00:29:29,558 --> 00:29:31,558 Like recently? 681 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,794 No, it had to have been 20 years ago at least, 682 00:29:33,796 --> 00:29:36,830 but there might be a connection. 683 00:29:36,832 --> 00:29:38,932 Hey, Garcia, I need you to check on 684 00:29:38,934 --> 00:29:40,467 an old case in Miami. 685 00:29:40,469 --> 00:29:41,902 Fingers at the ready. 686 00:29:41,904 --> 00:29:44,438 Ok, uh, 20 years ago, 687 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,606 a boy, roughly 5 or 6, 688 00:29:46,608 --> 00:29:48,008 saw his mom killed. 689 00:29:48,010 --> 00:29:52,012 Uh, nothing is coming up. This is pre-Internet. 690 00:29:52,014 --> 00:29:53,413 This would have received 691 00:29:53,415 --> 00:29:55,182 a lot of media attention, even back then. 692 00:29:55,184 --> 00:29:57,451 We said maternal figure in the profile, Garcia. 693 00:29:57,453 --> 00:29:59,152 Try babysitter. 694 00:29:59,154 --> 00:30:00,821 I mean, all of these women look more like babysitters, 695 00:30:00,823 --> 00:30:02,089 don't you think? 696 00:30:02,091 --> 00:30:04,091 Ok... 697 00:30:04,093 --> 00:30:05,826 20 years ago this month. 698 00:30:05,828 --> 00:30:07,994 The boy's name was Jeffery Whitfield. 699 00:30:07,996 --> 00:30:10,263 He saw his babysitter, Gina Meadows, 700 00:30:10,265 --> 00:30:12,099 murdered with... 701 00:30:12,101 --> 00:30:13,366 Oh, my. 702 00:30:13,368 --> 00:30:14,901 A .44. 703 00:30:14,903 --> 00:30:17,704 Yeah. She was shot once in the heart. 704 00:30:17,706 --> 00:30:19,272 Just like the victims now. 705 00:30:19,274 --> 00:30:21,174 Jeffery and Gina were found in a car, weren't they? 706 00:30:21,176 --> 00:30:23,243 Uh-huh. In a strip mall parking lot. 707 00:30:23,245 --> 00:30:25,545 Was it inside the unsub's comfort zone? 708 00:30:25,547 --> 00:30:27,981 Yeah, they were outside the vet's office. 709 00:30:27,983 --> 00:30:30,851 They were taking Jeffery’s cat to the vet. 710 00:30:30,853 --> 00:30:32,185 Jeffery was in the backseat. 711 00:30:32,187 --> 00:30:33,420 He saw the whole thing. 712 00:30:33,422 --> 00:30:34,855 He wasn't hurt, but... 713 00:30:34,857 --> 00:30:37,457 The victims bear a striking resemblance to Gina. 714 00:30:37,459 --> 00:30:38,959 I'm sending the info now. 715 00:30:38,961 --> 00:30:40,961 All right, thanks, Garcia. 716 00:30:44,233 --> 00:30:47,267 That is our unsub... Jeffery Whitfield at age 6. 717 00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:48,902 Jeffery was in the car that day. 718 00:30:48,904 --> 00:30:51,905 They caught the guy down the road, but... 719 00:30:51,907 --> 00:30:53,473 Check this out. 720 00:30:53,475 --> 00:30:56,743 Gina was wearing the same hair clip that day. 721 00:30:56,745 --> 00:30:59,246 The same one he's been placing in his victims' hair. 722 00:30:59,248 --> 00:31:00,914 JJ: Sandra worked Jeffery’s story when it broke, 723 00:31:00,916 --> 00:31:03,750 and she got his only on-camera interview a year later. 724 00:31:03,752 --> 00:31:05,685 That explains his focus on Channel 3. 725 00:31:05,687 --> 00:31:07,053 He probably felt exploited. 726 00:31:07,055 --> 00:31:08,288 Alvez: Or the opposite. 727 00:31:08,290 --> 00:31:10,690 This could have been his shining moment, 728 00:31:10,692 --> 00:31:13,026 the only time he's ever felt important before. 729 00:31:13,028 --> 00:31:15,428 In a single-event imprint, 730 00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:17,397 people can have polar responses. 731 00:31:17,399 --> 00:31:19,933 Some avoid it entirely. Others obsess over it. 732 00:31:19,935 --> 00:31:22,235 Both of his parents died last year. 733 00:31:22,237 --> 00:31:25,772 So to him, there's only one other person who recalls that day. 734 00:31:25,774 --> 00:31:27,274 Sandra Madsen. 735 00:31:27,276 --> 00:31:29,242 Prentiss: He created the story, 736 00:31:29,244 --> 00:31:30,810 hoping to get her attention again, 737 00:31:30,812 --> 00:31:32,445 just like he did 20 years ago. 738 00:31:32,447 --> 00:31:34,314 In his mind, both he and Sandra 739 00:31:34,316 --> 00:31:35,815 benefited from that day. 740 00:31:35,817 --> 00:31:37,284 She got her big story 741 00:31:37,286 --> 00:31:38,952 and Jeffery got his moment in the sun. 742 00:31:38,954 --> 00:31:41,054 He must have figured they can do it all again. 743 00:31:41,056 --> 00:31:42,789 But if she stops running his footage, 744 00:31:42,791 --> 00:31:44,424 he could see that as a betrayal. 745 00:31:44,426 --> 00:31:46,092 Rossi: And Jeffery might jump off script 746 00:31:46,094 --> 00:31:47,794 and attack her next. 747 00:31:47,796 --> 00:31:49,262 Sandra's phone went to voicemail. 748 00:31:49,264 --> 00:31:51,097 He might have already gotten to her. 749 00:31:51,099 --> 00:31:52,699 JJ, Luke, take Jeffery’s apartment. 750 00:31:52,701 --> 00:31:54,801 Matt, get detective Wallenberg and head to Sandra's. 751 00:31:54,803 --> 00:31:56,961 Dave, you and I will go to the Channel 3 news room. 752 00:31:57,206 --> 00:32:02,475 [Indistinct news reports] 753 00:32:04,487 --> 00:32:06,051 _ 754 00:32:08,183 --> 00:32:10,250 Where is it? 755 00:32:12,054 --> 00:32:14,654 Come on, Sandra. Where is it?! 756 00:32:14,656 --> 00:32:15,957 No, no, no! 757 00:32:17,092 --> 00:32:18,959 [Grunting] 758 00:32:33,141 --> 00:32:35,141 I want to keep the momentum going, 759 00:32:35,143 --> 00:32:36,576 so, yeah, let's lead with that one there 760 00:32:36,578 --> 00:32:39,112 and then go over to this one here. 761 00:32:44,386 --> 00:32:45,785 [Gunshots] 762 00:32:45,787 --> 00:32:48,088 Man: Get down! Get down! 763 00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:49,089 Gun! Gun! 764 00:32:49,091 --> 00:32:52,092 [People screaming] 765 00:33:00,936 --> 00:33:02,535 [Gasping] 766 00:33:02,537 --> 00:33:04,237 Don't do this. 767 00:33:04,239 --> 00:33:06,906 Why did you stop running our story? 768 00:33:16,354 --> 00:33:20,123 [Moaning] 769 00:33:20,125 --> 00:33:22,459 [Gasps] 770 00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:24,100 What do you want? 771 00:33:24,102 --> 00:33:26,803 You don't remember me, do you? 772 00:33:28,673 --> 00:33:31,074 Jeffery Whitfield. 773 00:33:33,111 --> 00:33:35,311 Hi, Sandra. 774 00:33:35,313 --> 00:33:36,846 Jeffery? 775 00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:39,716 We worked well together 20 years ago. 776 00:33:39,718 --> 00:33:42,952 Then time forgot us both. 777 00:33:42,954 --> 00:33:44,921 You're killing people. 778 00:33:44,923 --> 00:33:48,624 We were finally getting the attention we deserved, 779 00:33:48,626 --> 00:33:50,193 but then you screwed it up 780 00:33:50,195 --> 00:33:52,028 by not airing the last murder. 781 00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:53,463 Jeffery, I couldn't. 782 00:33:53,465 --> 00:33:54,464 Why not? 783 00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:56,699 There was a little girl. 784 00:33:56,701 --> 00:33:59,769 I'd never hurt a child. 785 00:33:59,771 --> 00:34:01,738 I'm not a monster. 786 00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:03,773 The way you cut the footage, 787 00:34:03,775 --> 00:34:06,090 I... I didn't know if she was... 788 00:34:06,090 --> 00:34:08,309 It's called a cliffhanger, Sandra. 789 00:34:18,949 --> 00:34:22,221 _ 790 00:34:30,235 --> 00:34:31,601 Oh, god. 791 00:34:31,603 --> 00:34:33,636 Tell everyone your name. 792 00:34:36,174 --> 00:34:38,074 Sandra. 793 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:39,842 Sandra who? 794 00:34:42,547 --> 00:34:44,414 Sandra Madsen. 795 00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:46,949 Oh, no. Oh, no. 796 00:34:46,951 --> 00:34:48,551 Prentiss: Yeah, Garcia? 797 00:34:48,553 --> 00:34:50,753 Jeffery Whitfield is on... and he's got a... he's got a gun 798 00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:53,156 to Sandra's head, and he's posting it all on his social media. 799 00:34:53,158 --> 00:34:54,657 Penelope, can you see where they are? 800 00:34:54,659 --> 00:34:56,192 Uh, in the news room. 801 00:34:56,194 --> 00:34:58,161 Can you cut off his feed? 802 00:34:58,163 --> 00:34:59,262 I don't think he'll kill Sandra 803 00:34:59,264 --> 00:35:00,396 if the world can't watch. 804 00:35:00,398 --> 00:35:02,465 I can try, but it's gonna take a second. 805 00:35:02,467 --> 00:35:04,100 Prentiss: Please work quickly. 806 00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:07,103 I clocked multiple entrances into the news room. 807 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:08,538 Ok, you take one, I'll take another. 808 00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:10,384 We'll surround him best we can. 809 00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:14,744 And what's your job, Sandra Madsen? 810 00:35:14,746 --> 00:35:19,248 I'm the news director at Channel 3. 811 00:35:19,250 --> 00:35:22,418 One of your first stories was about Jeffery Whitfield, 812 00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:25,288 a boy who saw his babysitter murdered. 813 00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:28,691 Do you remember him? 814 00:35:28,693 --> 00:35:31,260 I do. I do, Jeffery. 815 00:35:31,262 --> 00:35:33,663 Tell them about Jeffery’s cat. 816 00:35:37,068 --> 00:35:38,334 Please. I can't. 817 00:35:38,336 --> 00:35:41,771 Tell them about the cat. 818 00:35:43,675 --> 00:35:47,410 After Gina was killed... 819 00:35:47,412 --> 00:35:52,248 Jeffery's cat licked the blood off of Jeffery. 820 00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:54,851 He didn't speak for almost a year, 821 00:35:54,853 --> 00:35:57,587 till I interviewed him and... 822 00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:59,355 [Sighs] 823 00:35:59,357 --> 00:36:02,124 When he saw himself in the camera's playback, 824 00:36:02,126 --> 00:36:06,562 it was... like a game. 825 00:36:06,564 --> 00:36:09,398 And it was more fun than real life, 826 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,135 and it got him communicating again and... 827 00:36:13,137 --> 00:36:14,871 Prentiss: FBI! Drop your weapon. 828 00:36:14,873 --> 00:36:16,239 Put the gun down, now. 829 00:36:16,241 --> 00:36:19,375 Drop it, Jeffery, now! Put it down. 830 00:36:20,945 --> 00:36:22,979 [Sandra gasps] 831 00:36:24,249 --> 00:36:25,281 No. 832 00:36:25,283 --> 00:36:27,750 The world will see this. 833 00:36:30,054 --> 00:36:33,623 And they'll never forget me again. 834 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,793 No. No. 835 00:36:40,098 --> 00:36:42,498 Not today, Satan! 836 00:36:44,402 --> 00:36:46,569 No, no. 837 00:36:46,571 --> 00:36:48,137 It's not right if it doesn't work. 838 00:36:48,139 --> 00:36:49,705 It has to work! 839 00:36:49,707 --> 00:36:52,008 You don't have an audience, Jeffery. 840 00:36:53,878 --> 00:36:55,945 But I have to make them remember. 841 00:36:55,947 --> 00:36:57,747 But if you walk away now, 842 00:36:57,749 --> 00:37:00,750 think about all the attention you'll get. 843 00:37:00,752 --> 00:37:02,151 That's not enough. 844 00:37:02,153 --> 00:37:04,720 Prentiss: Ratings through the roof. 845 00:37:04,722 --> 00:37:07,056 All those likes, all those shares. 846 00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:09,058 The whole world will be buzzing about you. 847 00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:12,328 Rossi: It'll be the trial of the century. 848 00:37:12,330 --> 00:37:14,697 People will forget. 849 00:37:14,699 --> 00:37:17,400 They always do. 850 00:37:17,402 --> 00:37:21,504 They always forget me. 851 00:37:21,506 --> 00:37:23,940 Prentiss: Jeffery, if you put that gun down right now 852 00:37:23,942 --> 00:37:28,144 and come with us, we'll make sure no one ever forgets you again. 853 00:37:28,146 --> 00:37:30,413 How? 854 00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:34,717 We will get you a primetime broadcast network interview. 855 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,719 Ok? One on one. 856 00:37:36,721 --> 00:37:39,488 No distractions. It'll all be about you. 857 00:37:39,490 --> 00:37:43,192 And then everybody will talk about it 858 00:37:43,194 --> 00:37:45,328 forever. 859 00:38:00,111 --> 00:38:02,378 Put your hands behind your back. 860 00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:04,614 Ok. 861 00:38:06,317 --> 00:38:09,385 [Crying] 862 00:38:09,387 --> 00:38:12,021 You're gonna be ok. 863 00:38:12,023 --> 00:38:15,324 Jeffery Whitfield, you may be a wizard, 864 00:38:15,326 --> 00:38:18,561 but I am an oracle of the highest order. 865 00:38:18,563 --> 00:38:19,895 [Sighs] 866 00:38:19,897 --> 00:38:23,699 [Indistinct chatter outside] 867 00:38:25,169 --> 00:38:27,637 Thank you, Agent Rossi. 868 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,338 How you holding up? 869 00:38:29,340 --> 00:38:32,808 I always wonder what a victim must feel like 870 00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:36,379 in that moment, how terrifying it must be. 871 00:38:36,381 --> 00:38:38,247 And now you know. 872 00:38:38,249 --> 00:38:41,250 Except it wasn't terrifying. 873 00:38:43,254 --> 00:38:45,888 It was exhilarating. 874 00:38:45,890 --> 00:38:48,057 He almost killed you. 875 00:38:48,059 --> 00:38:50,226 But he didn't. 876 00:38:50,228 --> 00:38:51,927 And now this. 877 00:38:53,464 --> 00:38:57,033 Sandra, that's not real. 878 00:38:57,035 --> 00:38:59,268 Yes, it is. 879 00:38:59,270 --> 00:39:03,873 That's why I am so grateful to Jeffery. 880 00:39:03,875 --> 00:39:07,343 The next time you see him, will you... 881 00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:12,248 Will you thank him for me? 882 00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:20,756 [Reporters all shouting questions] 883 00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:24,360 Sandra: Tragically, 884 00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:26,896 I met Jeffery Whitfield 20 years ago. 885 00:39:26,898 --> 00:39:29,298 I was a field reporter starting out, 886 00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,867 and I had been assigned to the scene of a murder. 887 00:39:31,869 --> 00:39:34,470 A young woman had been shot and killed... 888 00:39:34,472 --> 00:39:36,739 Rossi: "I never travel without my diary." 889 00:39:36,741 --> 00:39:39,975 "One should always have something sensational to read 890 00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:41,510 in the train." 891 00:39:41,512 --> 00:39:43,179 Oscar Wilde. 892 00:39:43,181 --> 00:39:46,958 Synced and corrected by deglinglau www.addic7ed.com 64465

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