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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:16,000 ...:::: SiliconChip ::::... 2 00:00:08,500 --> 00:00:13,500 Out Of The Clear Blue Sky [2012] 3 00:00:55,622 --> 00:00:57,568 If you came in early, on certain days, 4 00:00:57,657 --> 00:01:02,003 the clouds would sit below the top of the building. 5 00:01:02,095 --> 00:01:04,575 And I would describe it as a Jack in the Beanstalk moment. 6 00:01:04,664 --> 00:01:08,737 It would simply be perfectly blue sky, 7 00:01:08,835 --> 00:01:12,749 white puffy, pillowy clouds below, 8 00:01:12,839 --> 00:01:15,046 and the tip of the Empire State Building sticking up. 9 00:01:15,141 --> 00:01:16,643 Like Jack in the Beanstalk. 10 00:01:16,743 --> 00:01:21,123 Extraordinary. 11 00:01:21,214 --> 00:01:23,956 I once called my wife from the office, 12 00:01:24,050 --> 00:01:25,961 I said: "Honey, what's the weather like?" 13 00:01:26,052 --> 00:01:28,259 She goes, "Sunny, it's beautiful." 14 00:01:28,354 --> 00:01:29,424 l said, "Take the kids inside." 15 00:01:29,522 --> 00:01:31,798 They were BBQing, I said, "Bring everything inside, 16 00:01:31,891 --> 00:01:33,893 it's gonna pour in about live minutes." 17 00:01:33,993 --> 00:01:35,904 She goes, "What are you talking about? 18 00:01:35,995 --> 00:01:37,906 There isn't a cloud in the sky." 19 00:01:37,997 --> 00:01:39,908 We saw the weather from where we were. 20 00:01:39,999 --> 00:01:42,605 And on windy days the buildings would sway. 21 00:01:42,702 --> 00:01:45,546 I remember the doors would actually swing like a ship. 22 00:01:45,638 --> 00:01:47,549 You'd go to the bathroom and you'd see the 23 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,314 water splashing around the toilet. 24 00:01:50,410 --> 00:01:52,390 You heard the creaking and you felt the building move. 25 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:56,484 Some people got seasick up there. 26 00:01:56,583 --> 00:01:57,527 Every day the planes would fly by, 27 00:01:57,617 --> 00:02:01,326 there was always two guys in the office, 28 00:02:01,421 --> 00:02:03,765 Mike Miller or Phil Mastrandrea, 29 00:02:03,857 --> 00:02:07,703 that always would say, "Whoa! That was close." 30 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:09,296 They flew past. 31 00:02:09,395 --> 00:02:13,537 And they flew closely enough that you would take notice. 32 00:02:13,633 --> 00:02:15,510 "Look at that!" 33 00:02:19,172 --> 00:02:20,947 "You could only tell it was raining because there 34 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,350 were rivulets running along the windows, 35 00:02:23,443 --> 00:02:26,185 you know, because you would he in the clouds. 36 00:02:26,279 --> 00:02:30,193 It never rained above us, it only rained below." 37 00:02:54,941 --> 00:02:57,547 September 11 was the first day of my son, 38 00:02:57,644 --> 00:02:59,555 Kyle's, kindergarten. 39 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:05,227 My cell phone rang and I was thinking, "You know, 40 00:03:05,318 --> 00:03:09,630 what could possibly he so important to call me when 41 00:03:09,722 --> 00:03:11,633 I'm at my son's first day of school." 42 00:03:16,029 --> 00:03:19,806 Iran down the stairs and I got in the car. 43 00:03:19,899 --> 00:03:22,209 He said, "We have to get there." 44 00:03:22,302 --> 00:03:24,213 lstarted following lire trucks. 45 00:03:24,304 --> 00:03:26,250 Cause they had the lights and sirens on, 46 00:03:26,339 --> 00:03:27,249 I could get through traffic, 47 00:03:27,340 --> 00:03:29,251 and I just tailed them going downtown. 48 00:03:29,342 --> 00:03:30,514 And I just start saying, 49 00:03:30,610 --> 00:03:33,386 "Let's just get there, you know maybe they got out of 50 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:35,390 there, they know how to get out of there. 51 00:03:35,481 --> 00:03:36,391 Let's just get there. 52 00:03:36,482 --> 00:03:37,392 Let's just get there. 53 00:03:37,483 --> 00:03:40,487 And I'm calling them and I'm looking up. 54 00:03:40,587 --> 00:03:42,498 And he keeps saying, "It's really had." 55 00:03:42,589 --> 00:03:44,500 He keeps just saying "It's really had, 56 00:03:44,591 --> 00:03:46,798 it's really had." 57 00:03:46,893 --> 00:03:48,770 A person who answered the phone on the trading 58 00:03:48,861 --> 00:03:50,602 floor at Cantor Fitzgerald located near the top of 59 00:03:50,697 --> 00:03:53,473 the World Trade Center said, 60 00:03:53,566 --> 00:03:56,012 "We're blanking dying" when asked what was happening 61 00:03:56,102 --> 00:03:57,172 and hung up. 62 00:03:57,270 --> 00:03:59,375 There was screaming and yelling in the background 63 00:03:59,472 --> 00:04:01,452 and a follow-up call was not answered. 64 00:04:05,011 --> 00:04:05,989 First, the immediate thing that I did was count 65 00:04:06,079 --> 00:04:08,491 because I knew what floor that they were on, 66 00:04:08,581 --> 00:04:12,119 they were on, Mark and Steven were on the 104th floor. 67 00:04:12,218 --> 00:04:14,459 I remember looking at the clock and seeing 9:00, 68 00:04:14,554 --> 00:04:15,464 it turns to 9:01. 69 00:04:15,555 --> 00:04:17,466 I dialed Steven on his cell phone, 70 00:04:17,557 --> 00:04:18,467 and he picks up. 71 00:04:18,558 --> 00:04:19,536 And I go, "Steve, it's Greg." 72 00:04:19,626 --> 00:04:20,604 And he's like, "Greg?" 73 00:04:20,693 --> 00:04:22,604 And I go, "Yeah, I can hear you, 74 00:04:22,695 --> 00:04:23,605 Steve are you OK?" 75 00:04:23,696 --> 00:04:24,606 And he goes, "Greg, I'm..." 76 00:04:24,697 --> 00:04:26,608 And as soon as that, everyone watched the 77 00:04:26,699 --> 00:04:27,609 second plane hang in. 78 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:29,611 And the second plane hit and exploded. 79 00:04:29,702 --> 00:04:31,773 And I was listening to his reaction as the plane hit, 80 00:04:31,871 --> 00:04:33,441 and he just said, "Oh my God, look at that." 81 00:04:33,539 --> 00:04:34,449 And the phone went dead. 82 00:04:46,886 --> 00:04:47,728 Now I'm at the building, 83 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:50,198 so I just start grabbing people. 84 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:51,291 "What floor were you on? 85 00:04:51,391 --> 00:04:52,062 What floor were you on? 86 00:04:52,158 --> 00:04:53,102 What floor were you on?" 87 00:04:53,192 --> 00:04:53,932 I grabbed someone, "What floor are you on?" 88 00:04:54,027 --> 00:04:55,165 I shake them. 89 00:04:55,261 --> 00:04:57,571 They said they were on the 92nd floor and that's when 90 00:04:57,664 --> 00:05:00,668 we started hearing this huge creaking sound, 91 00:05:00,767 --> 00:05:03,839 and that coupled with a jet engine. 92 00:05:03,936 --> 00:05:06,815 And someone screamed out, "Here comes another one!" 93 00:05:06,906 --> 00:05:08,317 And I assumed that, that it was a third jet 94 00:05:08,408 --> 00:05:10,581 coming in low to wipe us out on the ground. 95 00:05:10,677 --> 00:05:14,022 I look hack over my shoulder, 96 00:05:14,113 --> 00:05:20,223 and there's a tornado coming towards me. 97 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,359 It's as high as the sky, and it's a black tornado 98 00:05:24,457 --> 00:05:30,339 rolling towards me. 99 00:05:30,430 --> 00:05:32,432 I'm bailed up and I'm waiting for impact. 100 00:05:32,532 --> 00:05:33,943 And I'm just waiting to die. 101 00:05:34,033 --> 00:05:36,206 I'm waiting, I'm saying "When's it gonna come, 102 00:05:36,302 --> 00:05:37,508 when's it gonna come?" 103 00:05:37,603 --> 00:05:42,712 And I'm thinking, "Shit, I was uptown, 104 00:05:42,809 --> 00:05:48,191 I was line, I was alive, and now I'm gonna die. 105 00:05:48,281 --> 00:05:49,487 Son of a bitch I'm gonna die I can't believe I'm 106 00:05:49,582 --> 00:05:52,461 gonna die. Son of a bitch. I'm gonna die." 107 00:05:59,959 --> 00:06:04,237 Everything went silent, and the building just 108 00:06:04,330 --> 00:06:07,368 came down, and everybody stopped. 109 00:06:07,467 --> 00:06:12,541 Everybody stopped in their tracks and just turned around. 110 00:06:12,638 --> 00:06:14,549 Everybody was quiet. 111 00:06:16,008 --> 00:06:18,420 It was so eerie, I mean it was just, 112 00:06:18,511 --> 00:06:23,654 really I felt like the world stopped. 113 00:06:23,750 --> 00:06:28,790 And down came the building. 114 00:06:28,888 --> 00:06:30,799 Came walking hack down along the corridor to my 115 00:06:30,890 --> 00:06:32,801 desk and I was just looking into people's eyes 116 00:06:32,892 --> 00:06:34,803 and I could say, "How could this hare head thing 117 00:06:34,894 --> 00:06:37,568 get worse right now?" 118 00:06:37,663 --> 00:06:39,734 And I just looked over to my desk and I go, 119 00:06:39,832 --> 00:06:41,539 "Where's the South Tower?" 120 00:06:41,634 --> 00:06:43,773 And they go, "It collapsed." 121 00:06:43,870 --> 00:06:45,907 And then I just said, I looked at my clock, 122 00:06:46,005 --> 00:06:49,782 and I said, "10 o'clock, 9:46." 123 00:06:49,876 --> 00:06:53,050 And then I just was staring at the building, 124 00:06:53,146 --> 00:06:55,820 I just, you know, then, then time was like this, 125 00:06:55,915 --> 00:06:58,361 like that second thing, click, click. 126 00:06:58,451 --> 00:07:00,988 I mean I could hear it in my ear just pounding. 127 00:07:01,087 --> 00:07:02,998 And I'm watching, and I'm watching. 128 00:07:06,893 --> 00:07:09,134 I started thinking, "Maybe I'm dead." 129 00:07:09,228 --> 00:07:10,969 Maybe I'm already dead. 130 00:07:11,063 --> 00:07:13,134 Like, you know, I don't know. 131 00:07:13,232 --> 00:07:17,806 So I, it's black, I can't see my hand. 132 00:07:17,904 --> 00:07:19,850 So I take my lingers to see ill can see and I 133 00:07:19,939 --> 00:07:21,145 poke myself in the eye. 134 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,550 I'm like, "Well, I must he alive because I just 135 00:07:23,643 --> 00:07:26,487 jammed my lingers into my eyes and it hurts." 136 00:07:26,579 --> 00:07:29,685 So I figured, "OK, I must he alive. 137 00:07:29,782 --> 00:07:30,692 I'm blind." 138 00:07:30,783 --> 00:07:32,888 And it got silent. 139 00:07:32,985 --> 00:07:35,488 Not quiet, hut absolute silence. 140 00:07:35,588 --> 00:07:37,499 I guess all the particulate matter in the 141 00:07:37,590 --> 00:07:40,298 air absorbs all the sound or something because I 142 00:07:40,393 --> 00:07:41,394 thought I was deal too. 143 00:07:41,494 --> 00:07:44,304 I could feel the air around you, it's thick, 144 00:07:44,397 --> 00:07:46,035 it's not air. 145 00:07:46,132 --> 00:07:48,544 And I'm thinking, "Don't breathe, 146 00:07:48,634 --> 00:07:52,013 just don't breathe, don't breathe, don't breathe." 147 00:07:52,104 --> 00:07:55,517 Then I go (inhale noise) "Gotta breathe, 148 00:07:55,608 --> 00:07:56,643 gotta breathe." 149 00:07:56,742 --> 00:07:58,722 One of the times that I opened my eyes, 150 00:07:58,811 --> 00:08:01,018 it wasn't black anymore, it was dark grey, 151 00:08:01,113 --> 00:08:02,057 I couldn't really see anything. 152 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:04,219 But it wasn't black. 153 00:08:04,317 --> 00:08:09,767 I could see now that our building was still there. 154 00:08:09,856 --> 00:08:12,962 Whoever was in that building, 155 00:08:13,059 --> 00:08:14,037 couldn't have any air left. 156 00:08:14,126 --> 00:08:16,697 And I thought I was going to die outside. 157 00:08:16,796 --> 00:08:19,709 You know that's one of the things I was thinking. 158 00:08:19,799 --> 00:08:21,710 I could've suffocated to death outside, 159 00:08:21,801 --> 00:08:23,712 I don't understand, how could the world he black? 160 00:08:23,803 --> 00:08:26,374 I'm outside. 161 00:08:26,472 --> 00:08:27,382 I'm outside. 162 00:08:27,473 --> 00:08:29,384 I'm outside. 163 00:08:30,877 --> 00:08:33,084 So I just knew they were all dead. 164 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:36,717 I just knew everyone was dead. 165 00:08:41,153 --> 00:08:43,064 You know Steve was there in '93 they walked 166 00:08:43,155 --> 00:08:45,226 down 104,105 stories in an hour. 167 00:08:45,324 --> 00:08:48,203 And that's why I like, kind of marked my clock. 168 00:08:55,468 --> 00:08:57,209 I just kept thinking, "They're gonna, you know, 169 00:08:57,303 --> 00:08:59,647 walk down the stairs, I think it takes like an 170 00:08:59,739 --> 00:09:01,776 hour, they'll he out in an hour." 171 00:09:01,874 --> 00:09:04,252 You know, it would he OK. 172 00:09:04,343 --> 00:09:06,186 They had enough time to get out, you know, 173 00:09:06,279 --> 00:09:08,190 there was 45 minutes or something in there, 174 00:09:08,281 --> 00:09:10,192 they must've gotten out, I'm sure they got out. 175 00:09:10,283 --> 00:09:12,194 And you know, now it's just we have to wait. 176 00:09:19,158 --> 00:09:21,832 Jimmy gets me to, just aims me and says, 177 00:09:21,928 --> 00:09:25,740 "Come on just walk, just walk." 178 00:09:25,831 --> 00:09:34,649 So we start walking and we're just walking uptown. 179 00:09:34,740 --> 00:09:35,650 Our building collapses. 180 00:09:40,212 --> 00:09:45,127 You hear the huge roar and rumble. 181 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:58,099 Jimmy and I just look at each other and (shakes head). 182 00:09:58,197 --> 00:10:00,677 You know, we didn't like turn around and look at it 183 00:10:00,766 --> 00:10:02,746 and sort of gasp and say "Oh my God." 184 00:10:02,835 --> 00:10:05,975 They had already died. 185 00:10:06,072 --> 00:10:13,354 So the building had no connection to me anymore. 186 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:19,886 So when the building collapsed, just, just shrugged. 187 00:10:19,986 --> 00:10:24,162 They were dead. 188 00:10:24,256 --> 00:10:28,363 So I kept walking. 189 00:10:28,461 --> 00:10:30,372 (sigh) I kept walking. 190 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:36,270 I don't think I thought about my brother yet. 191 00:10:36,369 --> 00:10:38,440 I mean I thought about him, 192 00:10:38,537 --> 00:10:42,144 but I was trying not to, I was trying not to 193 00:10:42,241 --> 00:10:45,415 put his name down. 194 00:10:53,052 --> 00:10:57,660 We took out lawn chairs and sat in the driveway 195 00:10:57,757 --> 00:11:00,237 waiting for Danny to pull up and we sat there, 196 00:11:00,326 --> 00:11:04,672 and people, people brought us Valiums and stuff 197 00:11:04,764 --> 00:11:07,904 because, you know, we were just like (shocked lace). 198 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,174 And I kept looking for him On TV saying, "Oh, 199 00:11:11,270 --> 00:11:14,274 he's gonna come out, I'm gonna see him with ashes 200 00:11:14,373 --> 00:11:16,216 all over, but he's going to survive, 201 00:11:16,308 --> 00:11:17,218 he'll he out there." 202 00:11:17,309 --> 00:11:19,220 Gabriel's cleaning the room downstairs, 203 00:11:19,311 --> 00:11:20,688 goes "Steven's going to need a place to recover 204 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:22,259 because he's gonna he..." 205 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:24,692 You know, so she's just scrubbing, 206 00:11:24,784 --> 00:11:26,855 you know like rubbing the skin off her hands, 207 00:11:26,952 --> 00:11:28,056 just scrubbing. 208 00:11:28,154 --> 00:11:31,567 People were just in denial. 209 00:11:31,657 --> 00:11:35,264 Anything you did, didn't work. 210 00:11:35,361 --> 00:11:37,272 But you couldn't sit still. 211 00:11:49,241 --> 00:11:50,982 You know I came in, I hugged my wile. 212 00:11:51,077 --> 00:11:53,318 She was crying hysterically. 213 00:11:53,412 --> 00:11:55,323 So I told her everyone was dead. 214 00:11:55,414 --> 00:11:57,416 I thought everyone was dead. 215 00:11:57,516 --> 00:11:59,723 She said, "No Steven was alive." 216 00:11:59,819 --> 00:12:02,322 Howard was in, in serious shock 217 00:12:02,421 --> 00:12:04,332 and really lost it over his brother. 218 00:12:04,423 --> 00:12:05,424 Um, really. 219 00:12:05,524 --> 00:12:08,061 'Cause when it hit him it was like a, it was, 220 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,071 it was like someone punched him hard. 221 00:12:10,162 --> 00:12:12,073 I was like, "Alright, Steve. 222 00:12:12,164 --> 00:12:13,074 Everybody's dead. 223 00:12:13,165 --> 00:12:14,200 What are we going to do? 224 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:16,211 We have to liquidate the company. 225 00:12:16,302 --> 00:12:18,213 I mean, I, (stuttering) I don't know, 226 00:12:18,304 --> 00:12:20,716 so maybe we can sell the patents, we can... 227 00:12:20,806 --> 00:12:22,877 All these people's money and it's all probably gone." 228 00:12:22,975 --> 00:12:26,752 And, had. 229 00:12:26,846 --> 00:12:27,881 Bad. 230 00:12:27,980 --> 00:12:30,654 And we have to go to a thousand funerals, and, 231 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:33,594 so that's what I was telling him, 232 00:12:33,686 --> 00:12:36,690 and he was like, "Well {mumbling} before we 233 00:12:36,789 --> 00:12:38,700 liquidate the company we should talk to Lee." 234 00:12:38,791 --> 00:12:41,897 And I'm like, "Lee?" 235 00:12:41,994 --> 00:12:44,736 He's like, "Yeah Lee he's in London." 236 00:12:44,830 --> 00:12:48,835 I was like, "OM London. 237 00:12:48,934 --> 00:12:52,575 Oh London, yeah we have, that's right we got people who live..." 238 00:12:52,671 --> 00:12:54,412 I mean I think when he said it, 239 00:12:54,507 --> 00:12:55,679 I think it was news. 240 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:58,119 Like as in, "Oh, Lee in London." 241 00:12:58,210 --> 00:13:02,158 I guess it was a couple hours and Steve Merkel called. 242 00:13:02,248 --> 00:13:03,556 I said, "Thank God. 243 00:13:03,649 --> 00:13:04,650 Are you OK?" 244 00:13:04,750 --> 00:13:06,752 l said, "What's going outliers?" 245 00:13:06,852 --> 00:13:09,423 And he said, "It's, it's not good at all." 246 00:13:09,522 --> 00:13:10,432 And I said, "Howard?" 247 00:13:10,523 --> 00:13:11,433 And he said, "He's with me." 248 00:13:11,524 --> 00:13:12,434 And I said, "Anybody else?" 249 00:13:12,525 --> 00:13:14,732 And he said, "We don't know." 250 00:13:14,827 --> 00:13:17,467 And I'm telling Lee, "Alright look, 251 00:13:17,563 --> 00:13:19,474 so we're going to have to liquidate the company..." 252 00:13:19,565 --> 00:13:20,475 And Lee's like, "Hell no, 253 00:13:20,566 --> 00:13:22,512 we're not liquidating this company." 254 00:13:22,601 --> 00:13:24,444 He's in crisis mode. 255 00:13:24,537 --> 00:13:27,575 We went, we went into immediate survival mode. 256 00:13:27,673 --> 00:13:29,812 So we have a business conversation. 257 00:13:29,909 --> 00:13:32,549 So like, half the business conversation I'm helpful, 258 00:13:32,645 --> 00:13:34,556 and half the business conversation I start crying. 259 00:13:47,026 --> 00:13:48,130 Someone would call and say, 260 00:13:48,227 --> 00:13:50,434 "I'm trying to find out about my husband, 261 00:13:50,529 --> 00:13:52,440 or I'm trying to find out about my son, 262 00:13:52,531 --> 00:13:55,273 or my brother, or sister, or whatever it was." 263 00:13:55,367 --> 00:13:58,507 We would just literally he going from call to call 264 00:13:58,604 --> 00:14:01,346 to call to call to call. 265 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,351 We started what we called a sale list, 266 00:14:03,442 --> 00:14:05,353 which was who's alive, you know, 267 00:14:05,444 --> 00:14:07,048 who do we know who's alive. 268 00:14:07,146 --> 00:14:09,057 Trying to figure out who was alive, 269 00:14:09,148 --> 00:14:11,025 in and of itself, was a huge job. 270 00:14:11,116 --> 00:14:14,154 I mean, we were calling family members, 271 00:14:14,253 --> 00:14:15,391 family members were calling us. 272 00:14:15,487 --> 00:14:17,330 I started calling everyone I worked with, their wives. 273 00:14:17,423 --> 00:14:18,333 "Have "you heard from so and so, 274 00:14:18,424 --> 00:14:20,335 have "you heard from your husband, 275 00:14:20,426 --> 00:14:22,337 {stuttering} have you heard from your wife, you heard?" 276 00:14:22,428 --> 00:14:24,339 The answers were no. no. no. no. no. 277 00:14:24,430 --> 00:14:25,306 You know, I sai-, alter then I started calling 278 00:14:25,397 --> 00:14:26,341 people from other departments and the 279 00:14:26,432 --> 00:14:27,467 answers were no, no, no. 280 00:14:27,566 --> 00:14:29,045 And I stopped calling alter about twenty calls, 281 00:14:29,134 --> 00:14:31,307 because it was just, you know, because like, 282 00:14:31,403 --> 00:14:33,314 the answers were consistent. 283 00:14:53,993 --> 00:14:55,870 I remember the phone ringing at 3 o'clock in 284 00:14:55,961 --> 00:14:57,998 the morning and I'm like "My GOG, 285 00:14:58,097 --> 00:14:59,542 maybe it's Steven calling." 286 00:14:59,632 --> 00:15:01,612 I just reach, down (mumbling), 287 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:03,270 grabbed the phone, "Steven!" 288 00:15:03,369 --> 00:15:06,578 And there's , and there's a crying, 289 00:15:06,672 --> 00:15:09,209 Elizabeth Jordan, "Jordo", worked right next to Steven. 290 00:15:09,308 --> 00:15:13,154 She's just, "Did Steve say anything about Rob 291 00:15:13,245 --> 00:15:14,155 on the phone? 292 00:15:14,246 --> 00:15:16,920 Did Stu did he say he was OK? 293 00:15:17,016 --> 00:15:18,927 " I mean, we didn't, no one knew then, 294 00:15:19,018 --> 00:15:20,895 I mean people suspected, but we were still 295 00:15:20,986 --> 00:15:22,124 hoping upon hope. 296 00:15:22,221 --> 00:15:24,132 2 o'clock in the morning I start dialing 297 00:15:24,223 --> 00:15:26,294 hospitals, just one alter the other, saying, 298 00:15:26,392 --> 00:15:27,928 "There has to he a mistake, 299 00:15:28,027 --> 00:15:29,597 he has to he in there." 300 00:15:29,695 --> 00:15:32,369 I remember being so afraid. 301 00:15:32,464 --> 00:15:36,105 We were at Tina's, I went to bed, 302 00:15:36,201 --> 00:15:39,148 like midnight, 12:30, and I woke up at 1:30 303 00:15:39,238 --> 00:15:41,275 literally screaming, heart wrenching, 304 00:15:41,373 --> 00:15:43,444 like as soon as I woke up, and saw that I was in 305 00:15:43,542 --> 00:15:46,284 Johnny's house, I re-..., it was real. 306 00:15:46,378 --> 00:15:49,951 And I wanted to go hack to sleep because I was 307 00:15:50,049 --> 00:15:51,960 afraid to wake up again. 308 00:15:53,585 --> 00:15:56,293 So I went outside on the deck and I smoked probably 309 00:15:56,388 --> 00:16:00,530 like, four packs of cigarettes all the time. 310 00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:02,606 I remember calling my mother then. 311 00:16:02,695 --> 00:16:05,505 And crying, like, it's so cold, it was cold, 312 00:16:05,597 --> 00:16:07,508 it was damp, and I remember calling her like, 313 00:16:07,599 --> 00:16:11,775 "It's so cold, if they're alive, you know, 314 00:16:11,870 --> 00:16:15,283 they're wet, they're freezing. 315 00:16:15,374 --> 00:16:17,684 I just stayed on the deck all night long and I heard 316 00:16:17,776 --> 00:16:20,552 a helicopter and my brother Timmy could do 317 00:16:20,646 --> 00:16:22,353 anything from anywhere. 318 00:16:22,448 --> 00:16:25,019 I looked at the helicopter and like, "That's him! 319 00:16:25,117 --> 00:16:27,097 It's Timmy and Johnny, they're going to land here. 320 00:16:27,186 --> 00:16:29,393 OI course they're going to come to Johnny's house. 321 00:16:29,488 --> 00:16:30,592 Where else are they gonna go? 322 00:16:30,689 --> 00:16:32,600 OI course Timmy can get a helicopter. 323 00:16:32,691 --> 00:16:33,897 Timmy can do anything." 324 00:16:33,993 --> 00:16:35,995 So I'm just watching it, watching it, 325 00:16:36,095 --> 00:16:38,268 hoping to God that it would just land soon, 326 00:16:38,364 --> 00:16:40,275 and they'd come home. 327 00:16:42,368 --> 00:16:44,279 Obviously it never landed. 328 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:51,348 I bargained all night with God, I'm like, 329 00:16:51,443 --> 00:16:53,582 earlier that year I had medical pro-u. 330 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:56,319 A medical catastrophe that ended up in my having a 331 00:16:56,415 --> 00:17:04,197 colostomy hag, which was then the worst thing 332 00:17:04,289 --> 00:17:06,200 that's ever happened to me, and I said, 333 00:17:06,291 --> 00:17:08,202 "I'll wear the colostomy for the rest of my life, 334 00:17:08,293 --> 00:17:13,402 just bring them hack." 335 00:17:13,499 --> 00:17:15,410 Then I thought I was being greedy. 336 00:17:15,501 --> 00:17:17,412 Then I said, "Alright just bring one hack, 337 00:17:17,503 --> 00:17:19,414 I don't care which one, just bring one." 338 00:17:19,505 --> 00:17:21,416 And then I felt guilty for Tina, like, "Well, 339 00:17:21,507 --> 00:17:23,418 what if it's Timmy and you're wishing for one?" 340 00:17:23,509 --> 00:17:25,420 And I'm like, "Just whichever one." 341 00:17:25,511 --> 00:17:27,422 And then I said, "Alright, if they can't, 342 00:17:27,513 --> 00:17:29,424 if one comes back and they have the survivor guilt 343 00:17:29,515 --> 00:17:31,426 and it'll never he normal, then take them both." 344 00:17:31,517 --> 00:17:33,428 Just all night, making all these bargains, 345 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:34,589 like "I'll do anything." 346 00:17:34,686 --> 00:17:36,597 But it didn't work. 347 00:17:41,093 --> 00:17:44,905 It was like [our in the morning, just dazed o", 348 00:17:44,997 --> 00:17:46,704 and I had a nightmare. 349 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:49,370 Watching a spider make a web. 350 00:17:49,468 --> 00:17:52,039 I'm just laying, I can't move, 351 00:17:52,137 --> 00:17:53,775 and I'm just watching. 352 00:17:53,872 --> 00:17:56,045 Just making a web. 353 00:17:56,141 --> 00:17:59,122 It's getting thicker, and thicker, and thicker, 354 00:17:59,211 --> 00:18:02,351 and like it's really, really, really thick, 355 00:18:02,448 --> 00:18:03,688 it completes itself. 356 00:18:03,782 --> 00:18:07,229 And it's lull so there's no more holes, 357 00:18:07,319 --> 00:18:09,492 sort of like a blanket. 358 00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:13,900 Comes down on my lace and I wake up, "UM" 359 00:18:13,992 --> 00:18:18,304 It was like, well, OK, I'm not doing that again. 360 00:18:18,397 --> 00:18:19,569 Sleep? 361 00:18:19,665 --> 00:18:21,542 Nah, that's not somewhere we're going any time again soon. 362 00:18:21,633 --> 00:18:26,446 That wasn't it, so that was it. 363 00:18:26,538 --> 00:18:30,816 And then, uh, I woke up and that's when Allison 364 00:18:30,909 --> 00:18:32,820 thought we needed a place to get together. 365 00:18:32,911 --> 00:18:37,621 And I think I went to sleep at 2 and I got a 366 00:18:37,716 --> 00:18:41,254 phone call at 4, uh, and it was Howard saying, 367 00:18:41,353 --> 00:18:42,491 "Look, you know, we're gonna, 368 00:18:42,588 --> 00:18:43,498 Allison has this idea, let's set up a crisis center. 369 00:18:43,589 --> 00:18:44,727 I want you to set up the crisis center. 370 00:18:44,823 --> 00:18:46,825 I want you to go to the Pierre Hotel 371 00:18:46,925 --> 00:18:48,802 and have it set up." 372 00:18:51,296 --> 00:18:57,247 And I remember waking up the next morning and 373 00:18:57,336 --> 00:19:00,579 just hoping that it was not going to he real. 374 00:19:00,672 --> 00:19:02,652 I was hoping I was going to turn on the TV and 375 00:19:02,741 --> 00:19:04,652 "It's going to he another beautiful September day." 376 00:19:04,743 --> 00:19:06,848 I turn on the TV and they still got the cloud, 377 00:19:06,945 --> 00:19:07,855 and I say, "Ugh". 378 00:19:19,424 --> 00:19:20,596 1010 WINS reporter Steve Kastenhaum. 379 00:19:20,692 --> 00:19:21,762 Steve? 380 00:19:21,860 --> 00:19:24,204 Steve Kastenhaum: Well, Ralph, all over our area, 381 00:19:24,296 --> 00:19:26,367 people are asking, "What has become of their 382 00:19:26,465 --> 00:19:29,036 unaccounted for loved ones and friends?" 383 00:19:29,134 --> 00:19:30,579 Myself included. 384 00:19:30,669 --> 00:19:32,546 When I returned to my apartment building last 385 00:19:32,638 --> 00:19:35,380 night alter spending 10 hours in a disaster zone I 386 00:19:35,474 --> 00:19:37,715 learned that the woman who lives beneath me 387 00:19:37,809 --> 00:19:39,516 never returned home. 388 00:19:39,611 --> 00:19:41,522 This morning another neighbor told me she 389 00:19:41,613 --> 00:19:43,524 called that woman's cellphone immediately 390 00:19:43,615 --> 00:19:45,561 after the plane crashed into one of the towers, 391 00:19:45,651 --> 00:19:47,927 someone on the 105th floor, 392 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:50,330 at Cantor and Fitzgerald, answered the call. 393 00:19:50,422 --> 00:19:52,595 Woman: I called her cellphone to see that she 394 00:19:52,691 --> 00:19:55,934 was OK, because I thought that she hadn't yet gotten 395 00:19:56,028 --> 00:19:59,601 to work, and the cellphone, 396 00:19:59,698 --> 00:20:02,042 someone you know opened the line, 397 00:20:02,134 --> 00:20:04,808 didn't say hello, I just heard a lot of screaming, 398 00:20:04,903 --> 00:20:07,577 people screaming, "Please help us, please help us, 399 00:20:07,673 --> 00:20:08,583 we're stuck here“ 400 00:20:08,674 --> 00:20:10,881 We're on the hundred and fifth floor, 401 00:20:10,976 --> 00:20:11,954 we can't get out." 402 00:20:12,044 --> 00:20:14,217 Steve Kastenhaum: Then the line went dead. 403 00:20:14,313 --> 00:20:17,055 She watched moments later in disbelief as one by 404 00:20:17,149 --> 00:20:19,891 one, the Twin Towers collapsed to the ground. 405 00:20:19,985 --> 00:20:21,896 We have no idea what has become of our 406 00:20:21,987 --> 00:20:23,057 neighbor and friend. 407 00:20:23,155 --> 00:20:25,328 We wonder, "Is she buried alive beneath the rubble? 408 00:20:25,424 --> 00:20:27,335 Did she get out of the building before the 409 00:20:27,426 --> 00:20:28,404 collapse?" 410 00:20:28,493 --> 00:20:30,700 Or did she perish in this horrible tragedy... 411 00:20:30,796 --> 00:20:32,776 The time is now 8:30am. 412 00:20:32,864 --> 00:20:35,435 Welcome to the Bond Market Association Conference call. 413 00:20:35,534 --> 00:20:37,411 The call will now begin. 414 00:20:45,277 --> 00:20:47,257 Now joining the call is Lehman Brothers. 415 00:20:47,346 --> 00:20:50,691 Now joining the call is JP Morgan Chase. 416 00:20:50,782 --> 00:20:51,692 Morgan Stanley. 417 00:20:51,783 --> 00:20:54,491 Now joining the call is Bear Stearns. 418 00:20:54,586 --> 00:20:56,588 Now joining is Merrill Lynch. 419 00:20:56,688 --> 00:20:58,497 When I entered the phone call, 420 00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:00,501 the operator announced, "Howard Lutnick, 421 00:21:00,592 --> 00:21:03,937 from Cantor Fitzgerald, joins the call." 422 00:21:04,029 --> 00:21:09,445 And I, I had really expected a much more 423 00:21:09,534 --> 00:21:11,946 personal response from everyone. 424 00:21:12,037 --> 00:21:15,109 I don't think anybody, I don't think anybody even 425 00:21:15,207 --> 00:21:17,983 said, "I'm sorry." 426 00:21:18,076 --> 00:21:20,613 I think they just went right into business. 427 00:21:20,712 --> 00:21:23,249 I just remember very well one of the guys from 428 00:21:23,348 --> 00:21:25,259 Morgan Stanley being much more concerned about our 429 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:27,227 competitor, BrokerTech, than, than us. 430 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:30,823 And, and I remember that no one really said much to us. 431 00:21:30,922 --> 00:21:32,833 You know, maybe one person said anything to us. 432 00:21:32,924 --> 00:21:36,098 I mean, these guys all knew our guys. 433 00:21:36,194 --> 00:21:39,607 They were in the midst of a business discussion. 434 00:21:39,698 --> 00:21:41,609 There was already an agenda about opening the 435 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:46,115 market and it had been set without regard for our 436 00:21:46,204 --> 00:21:47,444 ability to open or not. 437 00:21:47,539 --> 00:21:53,490 They just made a decision, they said, "Ola, 438 00:21:53,578 --> 00:21:55,615 BrokerTech can open," which was our main 439 00:21:55,714 --> 00:21:58,786 competitor, we should open the bond markets, 440 00:21:58,884 --> 00:22:00,124 which was on the 13th. 441 00:22:00,218 --> 00:22:02,220 They could've easily have opened it another day later. 442 00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:04,232 It was crazy, the city was frozen. 443 00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:06,234 They could've opened on a Monday, 444 00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:08,236 it wouldn't make any difference. 445 00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:10,238 I don't think there was any reason to open on 446 00:22:10,329 --> 00:22:11,467 Thursday as opposed to Monday, 447 00:22:11,563 --> 00:22:15,602 other than the tremendous push by our competitor who 448 00:22:15,701 --> 00:22:18,272 saw this as a great opportunity to profit from 449 00:22:18,370 --> 00:22:20,281 the events of September 11th. 450 00:22:23,942 --> 00:22:25,478 It was a pretty tough call. 451 00:22:25,577 --> 00:22:26,920 You know, and then Howard got on the phone with me 452 00:22:27,012 --> 00:22:27,752 afterwards, and said, "What do you think?" 453 00:22:27,846 --> 00:22:29,382 l said, "Well, what do I think? 454 00:22:29,481 --> 00:22:30,323 There's only one thing we can do, we gotta do it, 455 00:22:30,415 --> 00:22:33,157 we gotta he ready, we gotta he open." 456 00:22:33,251 --> 00:22:36,425 We weren't up and running and I guess we'd 457 00:22:36,521 --> 00:22:37,397 be out of business. 458 00:22:37,489 --> 00:22:39,400 And that would he that. 459 00:22:59,511 --> 00:23:01,821 You kept getting signs of hope. 460 00:23:01,913 --> 00:23:05,588 Their names appeared on the survivor list. 461 00:23:05,684 --> 00:23:07,254 And then I called up Cantor, 462 00:23:07,352 --> 00:23:08,092 and I'm like basically arguing with Cantor, like, 463 00:23:08,186 --> 00:23:09,164 "But his name is on the list." 464 00:23:09,254 --> 00:23:10,824 Like, "Well, the list isn't accurate." 465 00:23:10,922 --> 00:23:12,458 "But isn't it better to be on than off?" 466 00:23:12,557 --> 00:23:13,865 Like, just give me something. 467 00:23:13,959 --> 00:23:15,233 One of my friends who was a firefighter says he 468 00:23:15,327 --> 00:23:17,238 saw the name "Hellman" somewhere, 469 00:23:17,329 --> 00:23:18,865 and they saw Steven alive, on a stretcher. 470 00:23:18,964 --> 00:23:24,744 Michael's name appeared on a sale list. 471 00:23:24,836 --> 00:23:27,749 People called us and his name was on a sale list. 472 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:34,415 Somebody who I had met through the whole first 473 00:23:34,513 --> 00:23:39,223 day said that they found my husband's name on some 474 00:23:39,317 --> 00:23:41,354 list of somebody who survived. 475 00:23:41,453 --> 00:23:44,195 I mean it was just so crazy, it was just, it wa-... 476 00:23:44,289 --> 00:23:44,733 and your emotions, you were going like, 477 00:23:44,823 --> 00:23:46,530 “Whoom" “Bam” 478 00:23:46,625 --> 00:23:48,036 You know, just like hack, it was like you're getting 479 00:23:48,126 --> 00:23:49,036 thrown back and forth. 480 00:23:50,495 --> 00:23:53,066 Your husband's name I know is Donald... 481 00:23:53,165 --> 00:23:55,076 [simultaneously] Donald Gavagan. 482 00:23:55,167 --> 00:23:57,078 Two of the people that supposedly are in Jersey 483 00:23:57,169 --> 00:23:59,547 Hospitals, Mark and Steven Colaio, 484 00:23:59,638 --> 00:24:01,845 you know they were really close all three of them, 485 00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:04,477 so I'm hoping my husband didn't have a wallet on 486 00:24:04,576 --> 00:24:07,284 him and he is with Mark and Steven. 487 00:24:07,379 --> 00:24:11,293 One of our friends had heard that Mark and Steven 488 00:24:11,383 --> 00:24:16,560 Colaio were, uh, in a hospital in New Jersey and 489 00:24:16,655 --> 00:24:22,799 that 90 Cantor people were in the burn unit in New Jersey. 490 00:24:22,894 --> 00:24:24,805 So this went on like Channel 7 News. 491 00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:28,911 One was up as critically, critically injured and the 492 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,742 other was up as, um, you know just injured, 493 00:24:31,837 --> 00:24:33,646 so we thought they were alive. 494 00:24:33,738 --> 00:24:37,777 My sister-in-law and I completely hugged each other. 495 00:24:37,876 --> 00:24:38,911 I remember us rollin-... 496 00:24:39,010 --> 00:24:41,650 rolling on the floor, like we couldn't believe they 497 00:24:41,746 --> 00:24:42,816 were alive you know? 498 00:24:42,914 --> 00:24:44,825 They were alive, it's OK, my mom was, 499 00:24:44,916 --> 00:24:47,658 my mom was so upset that Mark, I think, 500 00:24:47,752 --> 00:24:49,026 was in critical condition. 501 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:50,656 I was like, "He'll he line. 502 00:24:50,755 --> 00:24:53,167 They're alive, they're alive, it's OK, it's OK." 503 00:24:53,258 --> 00:24:55,169 I just remember sitting at the desk. 504 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:57,137 We were all in d-..., had a suite, 505 00:24:57,229 --> 00:24:58,139 so it was all different rooms, 506 00:24:58,230 --> 00:25:00,141 we were all just sitting at desks, calling. 507 00:25:00,232 --> 00:25:02,303 I just thought that they were alive, you know? 508 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,311 We had all these people, all our friends and family 509 00:25:04,402 --> 00:25:06,313 just dialing hospitals for hours. 510 00:25:21,987 --> 00:25:24,160 I remember going over to help open up the crisis 511 00:25:24,256 --> 00:25:27,066 center, not really thinking that a whole lot 512 00:25:27,158 --> 00:25:30,196 of people would be there. 513 00:25:30,295 --> 00:25:32,536 The crowds just sorta grew, and grew, and grew. 514 00:25:32,631 --> 00:25:34,702 And then the place was just mobbed. 515 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:36,938 It started as a trickle, 516 00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:38,878 a trickle became into a flood of people. 517 00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:44,079 We had 3000 people there? At least. 518 00:25:44,175 --> 00:25:48,590 I was making the announcements. 519 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,682 We're trying to find out who's at the hospitals, 520 00:25:50,782 --> 00:25:54,127 we're trying to find out who's still alive, 521 00:25:54,219 --> 00:25:57,632 those missing persons reports need to be filled out. 522 00:25:57,722 --> 00:26:00,464 We need DNA, so you need to get a comb or 523 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,596 a brush or toothbrush. 524 00:26:04,029 --> 00:26:05,599 Originally people, you know, 525 00:26:05,697 --> 00:26:08,007 sort of showed up hoping that there would be some 526 00:26:08,099 --> 00:26:10,079 indication that their loved one was alive. 527 00:26:10,168 --> 00:26:11,476 People would ask you, "Well, you worked there, 528 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:12,605 were you there that day?" 529 00:26:12,704 --> 00:26:13,705 And then all of a sudden you're telling your story 530 00:26:13,805 --> 00:26:15,284 over and over and then, you know, they, 531 00:26:15,373 --> 00:26:16,818 they get a glimmer of hope, and they'd think, 532 00:26:16,908 --> 00:26:18,285 "Oh, you were upstairs, so you made it down." 533 00:26:18,376 --> 00:26:19,753 And I go, (stuttering) yeah I go, "No, 534 00:26:19,844 --> 00:26:21,346 I didn't make it down, I was down already." 535 00:26:21,446 --> 00:26:23,448 You know, so, I had actually to modify my 536 00:26:23,548 --> 00:26:25,323 story, actually, you know, white lie so that way they 537 00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:27,294 wouldn't get that glimmer of hope in their eyes. 538 00:26:27,385 --> 00:26:28,056 You'd see it everytime. 539 00:26:28,153 --> 00:26:28,927 "You were upstairs? 540 00:26:29,020 --> 00:26:29,862 Maybe some people did make it." 541 00:26:34,292 --> 00:26:35,930 People were getting angry. 542 00:26:36,027 --> 00:26:38,507 The crowd had gotten upset. 543 00:26:38,597 --> 00:26:41,942 They were like, "Why aren't we hiring forklifts 544 00:26:42,033 --> 00:26:45,242 and and cranes to go down and lilt up the..." 545 00:26:45,337 --> 00:26:46,407 And I'm trying to answer the questions, 546 00:26:46,504 --> 00:26:48,780 which you know, it's the, "The authorities 547 00:26:48,873 --> 00:26:49,943 are doing that." 548 00:26:50,041 --> 00:26:51,452 Someone wanted some information and 549 00:26:51,543 --> 00:26:53,318 nobody had the information. 550 00:26:53,411 --> 00:26:55,482 He just started yelling at us saying, you know, 551 00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:57,924 "You people, you don't know what you're doing, 552 00:26:58,016 --> 00:26:59,324 nobody can give me any information." 553 00:26:59,417 --> 00:27:01,488 He just got really, really hostile and angry. 554 00:27:01,586 --> 00:27:06,194 So I get a call from Kent about 4 o'clock, 555 00:27:06,291 --> 00:27:08,202 he says, "You gotta come hack here, they're, 556 00:27:08,293 --> 00:27:10,000 uh, it's like a riot. 557 00:27:10,095 --> 00:27:14,510 You gotta come over, you gotta come over." 558 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:16,738 We were trying to, to get all the information 559 00:27:16,835 --> 00:27:18,178 and people were like, "Well how many exits were 560 00:27:18,269 --> 00:27:20,806 there in the building and I'm like, "Well, 561 00:27:20,905 --> 00:27:22,509 I think there were three exits." 562 00:27:22,607 --> 00:27:23,779 And, "Why aren't you doing more? 563 00:27:23,875 --> 00:27:26,014 Why aren't you down there." 564 00:27:33,418 --> 00:27:36,797 It was so loud in the room. 565 00:27:36,888 --> 00:27:39,892 Then I spoke. 566 00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:45,304 They were able to hear me and I could hear them. 567 00:27:45,397 --> 00:27:50,346 I could talk to the people in that room because of Gary. 568 00:27:50,435 --> 00:27:57,853 I knew it was Gary, but I'm just me. 569 00:27:57,942 --> 00:28:01,185 I didn't have anything I could give them. 570 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:04,556 I didn't have any information I could tell them. 571 00:28:04,649 --> 00:28:08,927 I didn't have any news, no 572 00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:12,433 one had told me anything in the hospital. 573 00:28:12,524 --> 00:28:13,434 So I talked. 574 00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:19,407 I didn't, I didn't have anything to say. 575 00:28:22,834 --> 00:28:24,745 It's just unthinkable that all these people 576 00:28:24,836 --> 00:28:25,746 together could he gone. 577 00:28:25,837 --> 00:28:30,582 And what makes us carry on? 578 00:28:30,675 --> 00:28:35,590 What makes us carry on is to help them. 579 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,717 What else can we do? 580 00:28:37,816 --> 00:28:40,695 What else can I do? 581 00:28:40,785 --> 00:28:42,924 Danny from the, from our equity group. 582 00:28:43,021 --> 00:28:43,931 Great trader. 583 00:28:44,022 --> 00:28:48,471 Big Carl. 584 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,039 Carl was a big guy. 585 00:28:50,128 --> 00:28:54,577 Big Frank. 586 00:28:54,666 --> 00:29:00,912 Big Frank, Frank knew everybody. 587 00:29:01,005 --> 00:29:02,177 Frank knew everybody. 588 00:29:02,273 --> 00:29:03,183 So many people. 589 00:29:03,274 --> 00:29:06,187 So many people. 590 00:29:19,257 --> 00:29:21,737 [sobbing] Hi, Jeff, Jeff Levine from our equity group. 591 00:29:21,826 --> 00:29:24,739 I really think I'm getting dizzy. 592 00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:36,685 Michael Ford. Hi Mike. 593 00:29:40,578 --> 00:29:45,323 So many people missing from this, too. 594 00:29:45,416 --> 00:29:47,896 Timmy Coughlin, Steven Roach. 595 00:29:47,986 --> 00:29:50,899 700 people. 596 00:29:56,361 --> 00:29:57,533 I got all the stage. 597 00:29:57,629 --> 00:30:02,078 A thousand people hugged me, talked to me. 598 00:30:02,167 --> 00:30:05,148 I left with more energy if that's what's going to 599 00:30:05,236 --> 00:30:08,149 help me carry through till tomorrow. 600 00:30:14,078 --> 00:30:17,651 It wasn't a matter of can I, 601 00:30:17,749 --> 00:30:21,322 it was more of a matter of I have to save the business. 602 00:30:21,419 --> 00:30:23,194 You know? 603 00:30:23,288 --> 00:30:25,700 What the hell else was I going do? 604 00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:31,103 I had to give it all I had. 605 00:30:31,196 --> 00:30:32,937 You know, for, for everybody. 606 00:30:33,031 --> 00:30:34,704 You really had an incentive to work, 607 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:36,107 just the opposite, I wanted to work. 608 00:30:36,201 --> 00:30:36,941 You know? 609 00:30:37,035 --> 00:30:38,673 I mean, it was my choice. 610 00:30:38,770 --> 00:30:41,011 You know, I can sit home and, you know and, and, 611 00:30:41,105 --> 00:30:44,985 and, and you know, just rot in this, 612 00:30:45,076 --> 00:30:48,023 in this horrible thought, or l can be productive. 613 00:30:48,112 --> 00:30:49,182 You know, it does no one good, myself or you know, 614 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,782 anyone else, you know, who's going to count on us 615 00:30:50,882 --> 00:30:53,658 to just keep them going, to he home. 616 00:30:53,751 --> 00:30:55,856 You know, what choice did you have? 617 00:30:55,954 --> 00:30:57,433 The whole concept of, "If we don't get this up 618 00:30:57,522 --> 00:30:58,865 and running , you know, we can't do anything good, 619 00:30:58,957 --> 00:31:01,995 we can't help anybody," was, 620 00:31:02,093 --> 00:31:04,596 was really gaining momentum. 621 00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:08,974 If you're going to help the families of your 622 00:31:09,067 --> 00:31:10,978 friends that you lost, you have to have a business. 623 00:31:11,069 --> 00:31:12,980 If the firm goes under, how are we going to help them? 624 00:31:17,475 --> 00:31:19,819 Sitting at my dining room table, "Alright, 625 00:31:19,911 --> 00:31:23,290 let's, let's see what we've got." 626 00:31:23,381 --> 00:31:24,291 You know, "What's the plan? 627 00:31:24,382 --> 00:31:27,761 What are we going to do?" 628 00:31:27,852 --> 00:31:32,801 It's totally insane. 629 00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,428 We sat down at Howard's house with, you know, 630 00:31:35,526 --> 00:31:37,437 with a number of his surviving executives. 631 00:31:37,528 --> 00:31:38,302 First thing we did was we went over each department. 632 00:31:38,396 --> 00:31:38,999 You know, who's with us still? 633 00:31:39,097 --> 00:31:40,508 It was bizarre. 634 00:31:40,598 --> 00:31:42,600 There were departments that were cleaned out. 635 00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:43,838 Everyone was on the desk that day, 636 00:31:43,935 --> 00:31:45,539 everyone cleaned out. 637 00:31:45,637 --> 00:31:47,708 25 people worked on a desk, 638 00:31:47,805 --> 00:31:49,910 24 of them were killed, and one guy happened to be 639 00:31:50,008 --> 00:31:52,352 lucky because he was at a Monday night football game 640 00:31:52,443 --> 00:31:54,855 in Denver the night before. 641 00:31:54,946 --> 00:31:58,917 Out of the trading desk, we lost 135 of 140. 642 00:31:59,017 --> 00:32:02,396 I'm the only one who's out of the equity department office. 643 00:32:02,487 --> 00:32:04,990 The department of 60, 70 guys and you have three 644 00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:09,003 or four names left, and unfortunately, you know, 645 00:32:09,093 --> 00:32:10,697 you're sitting there, "What do we do?" 646 00:32:10,795 --> 00:32:13,002 You know, like, it was just, 647 00:32:13,097 --> 00:32:15,338 it's a conversation no one would ever have in their life. 648 00:32:15,433 --> 00:32:18,380 And no one should, you know? 649 00:32:18,469 --> 00:32:23,418 OK, go down the list. 650 00:32:23,508 --> 00:32:25,579 First time I'm really going down the list 651 00:32:25,677 --> 00:32:28,817 with my eyes open. 652 00:32:28,913 --> 00:32:31,655 You know, just division alter division alter division. 653 00:32:31,749 --> 00:32:33,660 Mortgage hacks, everybody's dead. 654 00:32:37,455 --> 00:32:40,459 You know, business after business, 655 00:32:40,558 --> 00:32:42,469 you got no choice, you just have no choice. 656 00:32:55,206 --> 00:32:58,085 We needed to borrow at the end of Wednesday, 657 00:32:58,176 --> 00:32:59,621 September 12th. 658 00:32:59,711 --> 00:33:01,622 $70 billion dollars. 659 00:33:06,584 --> 00:33:10,088 So the bank requests of me that I sign over control 660 00:33:10,188 --> 00:33:13,567 of the company in exchange for their stepping in and 661 00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:15,569 lending us $70 billion dollars. 662 00:33:17,261 --> 00:33:19,172 Steven's there and he discusses with them some 663 00:33:19,263 --> 00:33:22,005 of the terms of this document, 664 00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,478 and so he brings me the document and he goes, 665 00:33:24,569 --> 00:33:26,276 "You know this is the worst document I've ever 666 00:33:26,371 --> 00:33:27,349 seen in my life. 667 00:33:27,438 --> 00:33:28,974 You sign your name on the bottom of this, 668 00:33:29,073 --> 00:33:31,883 they own the company, you have no rights." 669 00:33:31,976 --> 00:33:32,954 "What do you think?" 670 00:33:33,044 --> 00:33:33,749 He goes, "I think you should sign 'cause, 671 00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:35,756 'cause it's that way anyway." 672 00:33:58,369 --> 00:34:03,341 I remember trying to put together a business 673 00:34:03,441 --> 00:34:05,944 care package with the fundamentals, 674 00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:09,548 pens and paper, and staplers. 675 00:34:09,647 --> 00:34:11,752 John said to Bill Long, he says, "OK, 676 00:34:11,849 --> 00:34:14,796 we got to put together a, uh, balance sheet." 677 00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:15,956 And I remember Bill Long took this big piece of oak 678 00:34:16,054 --> 00:34:16,930 tag and he writes down, you know, 679 00:34:17,021 --> 00:34:18,261 "Cantor Fitzgerald". 680 00:34:18,356 --> 00:34:20,029 He puts down "Assets" and "Liabilities". 681 00:34:20,124 --> 00:34:21,330 And he's sitting there and he's looking at this piece 682 00:34:21,426 --> 00:34:23,167 of paper, and he's kinda like, "Well, 683 00:34:23,261 --> 00:34:24,399 what do you write down? 684 00:34:24,495 --> 00:34:25,565 Who knew? 685 00:34:25,663 --> 00:34:26,334 "We had no accounting. 686 00:34:26,431 --> 00:34:27,205 We had no operations. 687 00:34:27,298 --> 00:34:28,675 We had no Human Resource. 688 00:34:28,766 --> 00:34:29,540 We had no legal stall. 689 00:34:29,634 --> 00:34:31,170 We had, we had no nothing. 690 00:34:31,269 --> 00:34:40,155 We had no, we had no anything. 691 00:34:48,886 --> 00:34:51,298 We had a crash course in teaching people how to 692 00:34:51,389 --> 00:34:53,335 clear US Treasuries. 693 00:34:53,424 --> 00:34:54,596 In London. 694 00:34:54,692 --> 00:34:55,830 At night. 695 00:34:55,927 --> 00:34:57,907 When you have 25,30 British guys trying to 696 00:34:57,995 --> 00:35:00,737 figure out the US Treasury market, 697 00:35:00,832 --> 00:35:02,539 when they've never even touched the US Treasury 698 00:35:02,633 --> 00:35:04,476 market, in their whole lives, of how it works, 699 00:35:04,569 --> 00:35:08,244 and how it evolves, and how the payment structures are. 700 00:35:08,339 --> 00:35:10,512 We put up a couple of whiteboards on the wall. 701 00:35:10,608 --> 00:35:13,316 Um, we got a whiteboard, a whiteboard marker and we 702 00:35:13,411 --> 00:35:14,947 started writing down everything we knew about 703 00:35:15,046 --> 00:35:16,719 the US business. 704 00:35:16,814 --> 00:35:19,294 Most of those guys had a piece of knowledge. 705 00:35:19,383 --> 00:35:20,555 We got more and more Whiteboards. 706 00:35:20,651 --> 00:35:24,064 We ended up with lots of whiteboards and lots of lists. 707 00:35:24,155 --> 00:35:25,998 All through that there 708 00:35:26,090 --> 00:35:28,001 were bouts of complete breakdown. 709 00:35:28,092 --> 00:35:30,094 I could be arguing with the best of the best in 710 00:35:30,194 --> 00:35:32,196 terms of the clearing process and tell them 711 00:35:32,296 --> 00:35:34,537 they're all crazy, and [stuttering] our money's 712 00:35:34,632 --> 00:35:35,702 sale and this and this and this, 713 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,780 and I would he in tears maybe live minutes later, 714 00:35:37,869 --> 00:35:39,815 you know just bawling my eyes out. 715 00:35:39,904 --> 00:35:42,475 I mean it was survival mode. 716 00:35:42,573 --> 00:35:44,849 Everyone just went into overdrive. 717 00:35:44,942 --> 00:35:46,853 The energy was intense. 718 00:35:53,217 --> 00:35:55,857 It was makeshift desks, makeshift workstations, 719 00:35:55,953 --> 00:35:57,261 whatever PCs we could find, 720 00:35:57,355 --> 00:35:59,357 whatever workstations we could get from various 721 00:35:59,457 --> 00:36:01,994 places and we, we kinda just slapped them all 722 00:36:02,093 --> 00:36:04,596 together so we could get people working. 723 00:36:04,695 --> 00:36:07,608 Nothing was up. 724 00:36:07,698 --> 00:36:08,836 That was all black. 725 00:36:08,933 --> 00:36:11,174 I mean, it was turned off, no computers inside of it. 726 00:36:11,269 --> 00:36:13,044 And it was like rolling out everything all 727 00:36:13,137 --> 00:36:15,048 at the same day. 728 00:36:32,356 --> 00:36:34,495 Hard to believe but it's been just about 48 729 00:36:34,592 --> 00:36:36,230 hours now since the world 730 00:36:36,327 --> 00:36:38,933 as we know it basically fell apart. 731 00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:41,203 1010WINS reporter Al Jones is hack at the scene 732 00:36:41,299 --> 00:36:42,505 of the wreckage. 733 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,876 It literally takes your breath away. 734 00:36:44,969 --> 00:36:46,141 Al Jones: They're digging inside, 735 00:36:46,237 --> 00:36:47,580 still hoping to find survivors, 736 00:36:47,672 --> 00:36:50,653 they're getting what they call... 737 00:36:50,741 --> 00:36:52,812 This morning after a moment of silence 738 00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:54,287 commemorating those who died, 739 00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:58,292 the US financial markets started trading bonds again. 740 00:36:58,382 --> 00:37:01,386 When the markets opened, on Thursday, 741 00:37:01,485 --> 00:37:09,461 September the 13th, the screens in every bank flicker. 742 00:37:11,596 --> 00:37:14,270 And then come on. 743 00:37:14,365 --> 00:37:17,437 You know, one of the things is if you talk to 744 00:37:17,535 --> 00:37:18,878 people in Wall St., you'd say, 745 00:37:18,970 --> 00:37:22,110 it was one of the happiest things they'd ever seen. 746 00:37:22,206 --> 00:37:24,049 You know, how could Cantor, 747 00:37:24,141 --> 00:37:26,280 which they all knew was destroyed. 748 00:37:26,377 --> 00:37:28,323 You know, when they saw that flicker, 749 00:37:28,412 --> 00:37:29,982 and then it came on. 750 00:37:30,081 --> 00:37:31,059 They were like, "Son of a gun!" 751 00:37:31,148 --> 00:37:37,155 You know, and, they were rooting for you. 752 00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:38,461 They pulled it off 753 00:37:38,556 --> 00:37:41,503 They pulled it o", it's a miracle. 754 00:37:41,592 --> 00:37:44,664 I mean literally to get connected to keep the 755 00:37:44,762 --> 00:37:47,936 trades in the order of flow. 756 00:37:48,032 --> 00:37:51,502 I don't think there was a person around that thought 757 00:37:51,602 --> 00:37:54,276 that we would turn the switch on September the 13th. 758 00:37:54,372 --> 00:37:56,283 I remember the emotion, the emotion in 759 00:37:56,374 --> 00:37:57,409 that room was enormous. 760 00:37:57,508 --> 00:38:00,284 I mean, some people were pretty tired and upset hut 761 00:38:00,378 --> 00:38:04,690 it was a big plus for us to see the trades start ticking. 762 00:38:04,782 --> 00:38:07,353 There was a cheer and then it... 763 00:38:07,451 --> 00:38:09,624 the cheer was all in like B seconds because then, 764 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:10,824 then it was total silence, and everybody realized 765 00:38:10,921 --> 00:38:13,629 that it's not the time and the place to he cheering. 766 00:38:13,724 --> 00:38:14,759 Some of the first people I saw on the 767 00:38:14,859 --> 00:38:16,463 trading floor this morning were the Cantor Fitz 768 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,564 futures guys, Steve Loren and Wes Trainer just to 769 00:38:19,664 --> 00:38:23,510 name a few, uh, very, it's just unbelievably 770 00:38:23,601 --> 00:38:26,445 courageous that these were some of the first people 771 00:38:26,537 --> 00:38:28,448 on this trading floor. 772 00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:45,626 Every morning I threw up when I woke up and 773 00:38:45,723 --> 00:38:50,035 started feeling the day and, um, 774 00:38:50,127 --> 00:38:52,437 so I was like physically ill from it. 775 00:38:52,530 --> 00:38:55,909 I couldn't take a shower by my...you know, by myself. 776 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,946 Like I would have my sister stand outside the 777 00:38:58,035 --> 00:38:59,673 door because I just couldn't he alone with my 778 00:38:59,770 --> 00:39:01,215 thoughts for a second. 779 00:39:01,305 --> 00:39:05,913 CNN was on, in my room, 24 hours a day. 780 00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:08,991 That was the last time I saw my husband or had any 781 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,756 connection to him was on this news channel. 782 00:39:13,851 --> 00:39:17,628 And it was just something that I felt like if, 783 00:39:17,722 --> 00:39:21,101 when I turn it o" I'm going to he turning him all. 784 00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:24,105 You go through all the motions, you witness it, 785 00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:26,038 and you sort of say, "This really can't be though, 786 00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:29,634 this is so ridiculous, this is so far fetched. 787 00:39:29,734 --> 00:39:32,340 It cannot he. 788 00:39:32,436 --> 00:39:36,350 It is too removed, it is too unreal, to really he." 789 00:39:45,416 --> 00:39:47,487 I remember Thursday I was like getting 790 00:39:47,585 --> 00:39:48,825 into a panic attack. 791 00:39:48,919 --> 00:39:52,264 I was like, had a lix, I needed, I needed to have, 792 00:39:52,356 --> 00:39:53,960 I mean the pictures, I was like, I threw them, 793 00:39:54,058 --> 00:39:56,470 I rememher just throwing them down on the table. 794 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,302 I needed to watch him move, 795 00:39:59,397 --> 00:40:00,705 I was just going through video tapes, 796 00:40:00,798 --> 00:40:02,709 putting them in. 797 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,870 Video tape: "Where are you going?" 798 00:40:03,968 --> 00:40:05,208 "We're going to Disney World!" 799 00:40:05,302 --> 00:40:08,010 "We're going to turn up the volume boys and girls 800 00:40:08,105 --> 00:40:15,717 (yells)" I needed to hear him, I needed to see him. 801 00:40:15,813 --> 00:40:16,723 I needed 3-D. 802 00:40:16,814 --> 00:40:18,760 I didn't need two dimensions, 803 00:40:18,849 --> 00:40:20,260 I needed lull blown, you know, 804 00:40:20,351 --> 00:40:21,989 lull metal jacket Steve. You know, 805 00:40:22,086 --> 00:40:23,463 screaming and yelling and moving and doing all that 806 00:40:23,554 --> 00:40:25,465 stuff that he does. 807 00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:42,076 I remember thinking, "I do not know a day of my 808 00:40:42,173 --> 00:40:44,779 life without my brothers in it. 809 00:40:44,875 --> 00:40:48,379 I'm the baby, I was born into two brothers. 810 00:40:48,479 --> 00:40:50,390 I don't have a life before Timmy and Johnny." 811 00:40:54,485 --> 00:40:56,487 They knew more about me than my Mom does. 812 00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:58,658 They knew secrets my Mom doesn't know. 813 00:40:58,756 --> 00:41:00,667 And nobody else knows what they know. 814 00:41:04,795 --> 00:41:06,706 My whole life history was in them. 815 00:41:27,651 --> 00:41:32,498 On the 13th I saw a diagram of the building. 816 00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:35,161 I went through timelines, about how long it would 817 00:41:35,259 --> 00:41:36,670 take to get down. 818 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,205 I went through that over and over again. 819 00:41:38,295 --> 00:41:39,205 I refined it. 820 00:41:39,296 --> 00:41:40,866 I tried to he realistic about it, 821 00:41:40,965 --> 00:41:43,707 and every time I did, I came to the conclusion 822 00:41:43,801 --> 00:41:48,147 that it was possible for them to have gotten down. 823 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,119 But they had no way to get out. 824 00:41:52,209 --> 00:41:53,847 And they had no way for anyone to get to 825 00:41:53,944 --> 00:41:57,016 them to get them out. 826 00:41:57,114 --> 00:41:59,287 And that's unforgiveable. 827 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:19,604 This is an ABC News Special Report. 828 00:42:19,703 --> 00:42:21,683 There is no company to the best of my knowledge 829 00:42:21,772 --> 00:42:24,013 which has been more profoundly affected than a 830 00:42:24,108 --> 00:42:26,315 company called Cantor Fitzgerald, 831 00:42:26,410 --> 00:42:28,890 which does a huge amount of the bond trading in the 832 00:42:28,979 --> 00:42:30,253 United States. 833 00:42:30,347 --> 00:42:33,351 A huge number of its employees have been lost 834 00:42:33,450 --> 00:42:37,830 and are still, have been lost and or are still missing. 835 00:42:37,922 --> 00:42:39,230 And earlier today, ABC's Connie Chung sat down and 836 00:42:39,323 --> 00:42:43,396 talked to the CEO of that company. 837 00:42:43,494 --> 00:42:45,974 Peter to some on Wall St., Cantor Fitzgerald 838 00:42:46,063 --> 00:42:47,940 sort of symbolizes the devastation of the 839 00:42:48,032 --> 00:42:49,670 terrorist attack. 840 00:42:49,767 --> 00:42:51,007 It's going to be a different kind of drive 841 00:42:51,101 --> 00:42:52,136 then I have ever had before. 842 00:42:52,236 --> 00:42:54,477 It's not about my family, I get to kiss my kids. 843 00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:58,816 I get to kiss my kids tonight. 844 00:42:58,909 --> 00:43:01,583 But other people don't get to kiss their kids and I 845 00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:02,657 just have to help them. 846 00:43:08,385 --> 00:43:09,830 There's only one reason to he in business, 847 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,730 is because we have to make our company be able to 848 00:43:12,823 --> 00:43:16,498 take care of my 700 families. 849 00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:25,912 700 families, I have 700 families. 850 00:43:26,003 --> 00:43:30,418 I just, I can't say it, I can't say it without crying. 851 00:43:30,507 --> 00:43:31,542 Howard Lutnick. 852 00:43:31,642 --> 00:43:33,485 A personality, from Cantor Fitzgerald, the CEO, 853 00:43:33,577 --> 00:43:38,856 a man with 700 families and a much, uh, 854 00:43:38,949 --> 00:43:40,929 expanded family I would think now that we have 855 00:43:41,018 --> 00:43:43,498 seen him and shared his tragedy with him. 856 00:43:43,587 --> 00:43:45,567 Howard Lutnick, a personality this country 857 00:43:45,656 --> 00:43:46,634 will not forget. 858 00:43:46,724 --> 00:43:47,634 Period. 859 00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:58,337 That's how Howard was thrust into the nation's 860 00:43:58,435 --> 00:44:03,384 spotlight and consciousness, 861 00:44:03,474 --> 00:44:05,681 in the worst of ways, just the worst of ways. 862 00:44:05,776 --> 00:44:10,919 I'm just one hut they're all 700, 863 00:44:11,015 --> 00:44:12,187 there are so many of them. 864 00:44:12,282 --> 00:44:15,855 I'm missing 700 families, 700 people. 865 00:44:15,953 --> 00:44:19,730 The picture of me crying became omnipresent. 866 00:44:19,823 --> 00:44:22,929 I had not intended to cry. 867 00:44:23,027 --> 00:44:27,840 But I couldn't think about all those laces without crying. 868 00:44:27,931 --> 00:44:31,174 So, I hadn't intended to cry hut, uh, 869 00:44:31,268 --> 00:44:34,272 it wasn't up to me. 870 00:44:34,371 --> 00:44:38,615 I wasn't in control. 871 00:44:38,709 --> 00:44:41,588 He became the face of this tragedy. 872 00:44:45,082 --> 00:44:47,926 He made it very real. 873 00:44:48,018 --> 00:44:50,555 That this was, that this was a faceless corporate 874 00:44:50,654 --> 00:44:54,067 tragedy and he made it human. 875 00:44:54,158 --> 00:44:56,297 And it now, it now had a lace. 876 00:44:56,393 --> 00:44:58,304 And that lace was his. 877 00:44:59,263 --> 00:45:03,803 Everyone knew who he was, all across the nation. 878 00:45:03,901 --> 00:45:06,905 The letters came pouring in, 879 00:45:07,004 --> 00:45:09,917 people would stop him on the street and thank him. 880 00:45:33,931 --> 00:45:35,569 I was devastated this morning before we came on 881 00:45:35,666 --> 00:45:38,078 I was sitting downstairs watching a tape of um, 882 00:45:38,168 --> 00:45:39,841 and you may have seen it, the uhm, 883 00:45:39,937 --> 00:45:41,507 president of Cantor Fitzgerald, the CEO... 884 00:45:41,605 --> 00:45:42,345 I saw it... 885 00:45:42,439 --> 00:45:43,110 Oh my goodness. 886 00:45:43,207 --> 00:45:43,912 Yeah, I saw it. 887 00:45:44,007 --> 00:45:44,712 Oh my goodness. 888 00:45:44,808 --> 00:45:45,684 I saw it. 889 00:45:45,776 --> 00:45:48,655 His entire firm, everybody who worked in 890 00:45:48,746 --> 00:45:52,091 his office, every single one who worked in his 891 00:45:52,182 --> 00:45:55,629 office on the four floors, from 101 to 105... 892 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,629 Right... 893 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,701 Every single individual with his firm... 894 00:45:59,790 --> 00:46:00,461 Gone. 895 00:46:00,557 --> 00:46:01,297 Is gone. 896 00:46:01,391 --> 00:46:02,028 Gone. 897 00:46:02,126 --> 00:46:03,127 Yeah... 898 00:46:03,227 --> 00:46:04,262 His entire office, everybody, everybody. 899 00:46:04,361 --> 00:46:06,898 I mean, I watched this guy tell his story and it 900 00:46:06,997 --> 00:46:09,534 just, it just ripped me up, I couldn't handle it, 901 00:46:09,633 --> 00:46:11,544 couldn't handle it. 902 00:46:26,617 --> 00:46:28,528 The chartered papers for the Cantor Fitzgerald 903 00:46:28,619 --> 00:46:30,530 Relief Fund went in on the 14th of September. 904 00:46:38,695 --> 00:46:44,077 It was emergency aid and assistance on every level 905 00:46:44,168 --> 00:46:45,545 we could think of. 906 00:46:45,636 --> 00:46:48,480 First and foremost, financial. 907 00:46:48,572 --> 00:46:51,576 Second, second, and equally as important 908 00:46:51,675 --> 00:46:54,246 emotional support. 909 00:46:54,344 --> 00:46:58,292 The overwhelming mission was to create a sense of 910 00:46:58,382 --> 00:47:01,727 community for our families. 911 00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:04,629 And so that's where we focused, 912 00:47:04,721 --> 00:47:09,067 and we pulled everybody in and said, 913 00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:11,070 "You are now our family." 914 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,348 l thought maybe I would, uhm, 915 00:47:26,443 --> 00:47:27,649 tell you a little story. 916 00:47:27,744 --> 00:47:29,417 Maybe a little personal. 917 00:47:29,513 --> 00:47:35,555 When I was 16 my mother passed away of cancer. 918 00:47:35,652 --> 00:47:39,964 And so I started Haverford college as Tom said on the 919 00:47:40,057 --> 00:47:45,370 advice of my father who was a professor of history. 920 00:47:45,462 --> 00:47:48,272 It so happens, that uhm, and I didn't know it at 921 00:47:48,365 --> 00:47:51,539 the time, but when I started Haverford, 922 00:47:51,635 --> 00:47:54,411 my lather had lung cancer. 923 00:47:54,504 --> 00:47:56,677 But he hadn't, he hadn't told me. 924 00:47:56,773 --> 00:48:00,585 And so I entered college and for my first week, 925 00:48:00,677 --> 00:48:03,749 and uhm, through complications through his 926 00:48:03,847 --> 00:48:08,091 chemotherapy which was experimental at the time, 927 00:48:08,185 --> 00:48:11,530 uhm, he went in for his second chemotherapy shot 928 00:48:11,622 --> 00:48:15,536 and uhm, he died on the table that day. 929 00:48:23,967 --> 00:48:28,279 Our parents died very young. 930 00:48:28,372 --> 00:48:32,218 The three of us had nobody but each other from the 931 00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:34,220 time that, you know, I was 19. 932 00:48:44,621 --> 00:48:47,795 My extended family pulled out, 933 00:48:47,891 --> 00:48:51,395 you got these teenage children, 934 00:48:51,495 --> 00:48:53,668 you know sorta you get involved, they get sticky. 935 00:48:53,764 --> 00:48:55,766 You know they might not leave. 936 00:48:55,866 --> 00:49:03,478 And so they all sort of stepped back. 937 00:49:03,573 --> 00:49:06,315 My uncle says to me at my father's funeral on 938 00:49:06,410 --> 00:49:08,481 September the 14th, "What are you doing for 939 00:49:08,578 --> 00:49:09,488 Thanksgiving". 940 00:49:09,579 --> 00:49:11,752 I'm like, (counts with lingers), October, 941 00:49:11,848 --> 00:49:15,386 "Oh this guy's asking me for dinner in two 942 00:49:15,485 --> 00:49:16,657 and a hall months." 943 00:49:16,753 --> 00:49:18,960 You gotta he kidding me! 944 00:49:19,056 --> 00:49:20,296 Like he didn't even ask a question, 945 00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:21,892 "What are you doing tonight? 946 00:49:21,992 --> 00:49:24,598 How about tomorrow? 947 00:49:24,695 --> 00:49:26,072 What are you going to do with the house? 948 00:49:26,163 --> 00:49:29,804 How are you going to eat dinner?" 949 00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:34,781 You know, I had been in the worst moment ever, 950 00:49:34,871 --> 00:49:39,513 this sort of orphan, uh, no family to rely on, 951 00:49:39,609 --> 00:49:43,079 14 year old brother who then moves in with me at 952 00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:48,994 college while I'm a freshman. 953 00:49:49,086 --> 00:49:56,061 You know I had a 24 years and 364 day rally. 954 00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:58,901 $0 I knew. 955 00:49:58,996 --> 00:50:00,566 It smelled like it. 956 00:50:00,664 --> 00:50:02,439 It felt like it. 957 00:50:02,532 --> 00:50:05,103 It tasted like it. 958 00:50:05,202 --> 00:50:08,115 I mean I was just hack there, wham. 959 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,864 I never thought that I was responsible for their 960 00:50:25,956 --> 00:50:31,599 deaths, but I was-u. 961 00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:36,166 Being responsible means being responsible to help. 962 00:50:36,266 --> 00:50:40,806 I had a responsibility to help. 963 00:50:40,904 --> 00:50:44,818 Maybe it was because nobody helped us, 964 00:50:44,908 --> 00:50:47,115 that I wanted to help. 965 00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:50,487 That I wanted to do what I thought, 966 00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:51,888 what I thought was right. 967 00:50:51,982 --> 00:50:54,895 What I would've wanted done for me. 968 00:51:20,544 --> 00:51:23,548 Good morning and welcome hack to greatest 969 00:51:23,647 --> 00:51:26,787 market on the face of the Earth. 970 00:51:29,586 --> 00:51:33,500 Today America goes hack to business. 971 00:51:38,028 --> 00:51:41,976 Our heroes will now open the marketplace. 972 00:51:42,065 --> 00:51:49,244 The green button. 973 00:51:49,339 --> 00:51:50,044 And they're up in the distance. 974 00:51:50,140 --> 00:51:50,948 Goodbye Halo... 975 00:51:51,041 --> 00:51:52,452 Have you ever been to a horse race? 976 00:51:52,542 --> 00:51:53,919 Gates open and [pew!] 977 00:51:54,010 --> 00:51:55,455 They all run out at the same time? 978 00:51:55,545 --> 00:51:57,456 That's what it was like. 979 00:52:00,183 --> 00:52:01,218 Sway now takes the lead... 980 00:52:01,318 --> 00:52:02,820 We were just hired 35 people over the weekend 981 00:52:02,919 --> 00:52:04,489 they come in on Monday, it's the first day, 982 00:52:04,588 --> 00:52:06,761 we're not in our offices, we're not having our 983 00:52:06,857 --> 00:52:09,531 systems, everything is handwritten. 984 00:52:09,626 --> 00:52:10,661 We're writing everything by hand, 985 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,535 we didn't have electronic communications to the 986 00:52:12,629 --> 00:52:14,973 Stock Exchange floor, the phones were going out, 987 00:52:15,065 --> 00:52:17,636 people were on cellphones with floor brokers. 988 00:52:17,734 --> 00:52:19,475 People write it down, they write on a napkin, 989 00:52:19,569 --> 00:52:21,446 you bought 150,000 shares of XYZ, 990 00:52:21,538 --> 00:52:23,245 then what are they going to do with the napkin? 991 00:52:23,340 --> 00:52:24,410 So they call someone up who just joined the firm 992 00:52:24,508 --> 00:52:26,078 and they say, "Here". 993 00:52:26,176 --> 00:52:28,520 The person takes the napkin and does what with it? 994 00:52:28,612 --> 00:52:29,989 Lay on his third... 995 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,354 I had some stressful moments on the trading 996 00:52:31,448 --> 00:52:35,521 desk in my life, but never like, where I'm like, 997 00:52:35,619 --> 00:52:38,998 "Oh my God, it's just so much I can't handle it." 998 00:52:39,089 --> 00:52:40,591 Clients would call up and say, "Hi, 999 00:52:40,690 --> 00:52:42,601 we want to help you, we're doing all our business 1000 00:52:42,692 --> 00:52:44,000 with you today. 1001 00:52:44,094 --> 00:52:44,936 The stock market is opening and we're 1002 00:52:45,028 --> 00:52:46,063 doing it all with you." 1003 00:52:46,163 --> 00:52:47,801 And we're like, "No, no, no, we can't handle it, 1004 00:52:47,898 --> 00:52:51,573 we don't...nol" 1005 00:52:51,668 --> 00:52:52,874 I think it was a woman who called client that 1006 00:52:52,969 --> 00:52:54,915 Phil's had said, "But you don't understand, 1007 00:52:55,005 --> 00:52:56,746 I have to do this. 1008 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,342 I'm being told to do this. 1009 00:52:58,441 --> 00:52:59,818 We're doing our business with you. 1010 00:52:59,910 --> 00:53:01,287 Everything." 1011 00:53:01,378 --> 00:53:04,621 Throwing it at us because they want to help. 1012 00:53:04,714 --> 00:53:06,716 What they really almost did was almost killed us 1013 00:53:06,816 --> 00:53:09,854 because we were so undermanned. 1014 00:53:09,953 --> 00:53:13,662 So I called Lee up, I said, "Look, hail luster! 1015 00:53:13,757 --> 00:53:15,464 The water's pouring in! 1016 00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:16,594 We're gonna sink! 1017 00:53:16,693 --> 00:53:19,765 Bail luster, luster!" 1018 00:53:19,863 --> 00:53:21,934 Amazing amounts of business, 1019 00:53:22,032 --> 00:53:24,308 more business than we had ever done in a given day 1020 00:53:24,401 --> 00:53:28,679 pre-9/11, we were doing on the day right alter 9/11. 1021 00:53:28,772 --> 00:53:31,912 You know the equity department lost 145 1022 00:53:32,008 --> 00:53:35,182 people, everybody except for the boss in New York, 1023 00:53:35,278 --> 00:53:38,851 virtually everybody was killed and it just...they 1024 00:53:38,949 --> 00:53:40,860 did what they could. 1025 00:53:46,223 --> 00:53:48,669 So I went home that night, having made it all the way 1026 00:53:48,758 --> 00:53:53,207 through to Monday now, still surviving. 1027 00:53:53,296 --> 00:53:54,934 And Allison said, "How'd it go?" 1028 00:53:55,031 --> 00:53:58,205 And I said, "We're done." 1029 00:53:58,301 --> 00:54:04,217 But not "We're done", you know, with frustration, 1030 00:54:04,307 --> 00:54:06,651 with exasperation, just, "We're done." 1031 00:54:06,743 --> 00:54:09,781 You know we've been killed with kindness. 1032 00:54:09,879 --> 00:54:13,122 You know, we announced that we were starving, 1033 00:54:13,216 --> 00:54:14,160 and everyone in the world stuck a piece of 1034 00:54:14,251 --> 00:54:17,494 bread in our mouth. 1035 00:54:17,587 --> 00:54:19,624 We couldn't possibly process it, 1036 00:54:19,723 --> 00:54:23,398 it's just not possible. 1037 00:54:23,493 --> 00:54:26,337 The feeling we had for the first week was that 1038 00:54:26,429 --> 00:54:30,104 while we were going through the motions the 1039 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:35,047 fact was that the patient was lost. 1040 00:54:35,138 --> 00:54:38,415 You know, the events were clearly too much. 1041 00:54:38,508 --> 00:54:41,421 The business couldn't survive. 1042 00:54:50,954 --> 00:54:53,059 Families of those who worked at the World Trade 1043 00:54:53,156 --> 00:54:55,966 Center refused to give up hope. 1044 00:54:56,059 --> 00:54:58,232 One man, George Katsimatides, 1045 00:54:58,328 --> 00:55:01,400 has told me that he will never give up. 1046 00:55:01,498 --> 00:55:04,172 He's hanging on to a thread of a report that a 1047 00:55:04,267 --> 00:55:07,646 pregnant woman worked with a man named "John" who was 1048 00:55:07,737 --> 00:55:10,843 George's brother, that that man had a long last 1049 00:55:10,940 --> 00:55:13,045 name and somehow George believes this will lead 1050 00:55:13,143 --> 00:55:15,054 him to his brother. 1051 00:55:15,145 --> 00:55:16,215 George Katsimatides: I've gone to the crisis center 1052 00:55:16,313 --> 00:55:17,986 that Cantor Fitzgerald has set up, 1053 00:55:18,081 --> 00:55:19,822 I plan on going hack again today. 1054 00:55:19,916 --> 00:55:22,829 Uhm, you know, I can't, I can't give up. 1055 00:55:31,227 --> 00:55:36,575 Well, it's been a week. 1056 00:55:36,666 --> 00:55:38,577 Some week. 1057 00:55:42,605 --> 00:55:44,448 I keep expecting this to he something like the 1058 00:55:44,541 --> 00:55:48,011 Wizard of Oz, where I'll wake up, 1059 00:55:48,111 --> 00:55:55,586 I'll wake up and it's uh, and it's a dream. 1060 00:55:55,685 --> 00:55:56,925 It's a terrible dream. 1061 00:55:57,020 --> 00:56:00,729 It's a tough dream, hut it's one that'll go away. 1062 00:56:00,824 --> 00:56:03,270 I can tell you what's new. 1063 00:56:03,426 --> 00:56:09,672 Uhm, I've heard the lire department say that there 1064 00:56:09,766 --> 00:56:16,445 still remain caverns beneath the Trade Center 1065 00:56:16,539 --> 00:56:19,418 so there is still a possibility of hope for 1066 00:56:19,509 --> 00:56:22,285 those of you who want to consider that a 1067 00:56:22,379 --> 00:56:25,383 possibility. 1068 00:56:25,482 --> 00:56:28,622 Someone asked, "Will we get a paycheck?" 1069 00:56:28,718 --> 00:56:34,999 The answer is, "ll they're not alive, on the 30th, 1070 00:56:35,091 --> 00:56:37,264 I doubt we'll be able to pay them." 1071 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,671 The question was could we survive and pay them any longer? 1072 00:56:40,764 --> 00:56:45,406 And I didn't think we could. 1073 00:56:45,502 --> 00:56:47,504 People were still holding out hope that, 1074 00:56:47,604 --> 00:56:49,743 you know, somebody, that their loved one might he 1075 00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:52,251 alive and it was for the deliverance of the message 1076 00:56:52,342 --> 00:56:55,983 that, you know, your loved one's dead. 1077 00:56:56,079 --> 00:57:00,960 And someone stood up and said how dare you say that. 1078 00:57:01,050 --> 00:57:03,997 A lot of people felt hurt and upset because 1079 00:57:04,087 --> 00:57:06,727 they weren't ready to hear that. 1080 00:57:06,823 --> 00:57:08,200 You know, "You're saying our family member is dead 1081 00:57:08,291 --> 00:57:10,032 before anyone else has said that. 1082 00:57:10,126 --> 00:57:11,901 We don't have a body, we don't have confirmation. 1083 00:57:11,995 --> 00:57:13,440 How could you say that? 1084 00:57:13,530 --> 00:57:17,239 And how could you act on it by cutting off the pay?" 1085 00:57:17,333 --> 00:57:18,903 But Howard made the decision to save the 1086 00:57:19,002 --> 00:57:22,916 company so they would have a company left. 1087 00:57:38,855 --> 00:57:42,234 Wednesday, I'm at the hank, 1088 00:57:42,325 --> 00:57:43,929 waiting for the computer to collect all of the 1089 00:57:44,027 --> 00:57:46,098 pieces of Center's exposure and bring it all 1090 00:57:46,196 --> 00:57:48,107 hack together and say what it is. 1091 00:58:06,649 --> 00:58:11,189 It was shocking. The company was going to stand. 1092 00:58:11,287 --> 00:58:14,063 The hank was going to sign the company hack to me and 1093 00:58:14,157 --> 00:58:16,330 the partners of Cantor Fitzgerald. 1094 00:58:16,426 --> 00:58:18,337 We had made it. 1095 00:58:24,634 --> 00:58:27,308 So then I went hack to my house and we decided we're 1096 00:58:27,403 --> 00:58:29,644 going to give 25% of our profits to the families 1097 00:58:29,739 --> 00:58:31,878 for the next 5 years and cover their healthcare 1098 00:58:31,975 --> 00:58:33,886 for 10 years. 1099 00:58:40,383 --> 00:58:44,490 And then I went to Joe Shea's funeral. 1100 00:58:44,587 --> 00:58:46,498 There was a picture of Joe, 1101 00:58:46,589 --> 00:58:50,901 and right above it was his brother, Danny. 1102 00:58:50,994 --> 00:58:52,473 So I started crying. 1103 00:58:52,562 --> 00:58:56,169 I couldn't stop crying. 1104 00:58:56,266 --> 00:58:57,802 I started hyperventilating. 1105 00:58:57,901 --> 00:59:01,314 Walked out of the church, sat on the stairs, 1106 00:59:01,404 --> 00:59:03,884 I'm sitting there crying and heaving, 1107 00:59:03,973 --> 00:59:07,614 just water's pouring down my lace. 1108 00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:09,849 Amy comes up to me and pats me on the shoulder 1109 00:59:09,946 --> 00:59:14,588 and says, "Howard, come on we've got to go, 1110 00:59:14,684 --> 00:59:17,665 I've arranged for you to be on Larry King to talk 1111 00:59:17,754 --> 00:59:19,495 about what we're doing for the families. 1112 00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:22,502 In 15 minutes." 1113 00:59:25,228 --> 00:59:28,004 This is CNN. 1114 00:59:28,097 --> 00:59:29,576 How's your firm going to deal with all these 1115 00:59:29,666 --> 00:59:30,610 families and the like? 1116 00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:33,203 Can Americans help you in any way? 1117 00:59:33,303 --> 00:59:36,079 Well, I'll tell you how we've decided to deal with 1118 00:59:36,172 --> 00:59:40,211 it, uhm, my partners and I we talked about it, 1119 00:59:40,310 --> 00:59:43,189 and we've decided that what we're going to do is 1120 00:59:43,279 --> 00:59:46,692 we're going to give 25% of the profits of the company 1121 00:59:46,783 --> 00:59:51,459 to the families of the victims to try to take 1122 00:59:51,554 --> 00:59:54,967 care of them so they stay part of our family and 1123 00:59:55,058 --> 00:59:57,538 that we can try to take care of them with our company. 1124 00:59:57,627 --> 00:59:59,937 Because you see they call me and say, 1125 01:00:00,029 --> 01:00:01,838 "How come you can't pay my salary? 1126 01:00:01,931 --> 01:00:04,104 Why can't you pay my husband's salary? 1127 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,202 Other companies pay their salary, why can't you?" 1128 01:00:06,302 --> 01:00:12,480 But you see I lost, I lost everybody in the company 1129 01:00:12,575 --> 01:00:15,886 so I can't pay their salary, 1130 01:00:15,979 --> 01:00:19,688 so they think we're doing something wrong. 1131 01:00:19,782 --> 01:00:21,318 I can't pay their salaries, 1132 01:00:21,417 --> 01:00:23,090 I don't have any money to pay their salaries. 1133 01:00:23,186 --> 01:00:27,032 Can America help at all, can people help Howard? 1134 01:00:27,123 --> 01:00:33,369 Well I guess, the victims, all the families, 1135 01:00:33,463 --> 01:00:35,443 they're going to stay in the Cantor family, 1136 01:00:35,531 --> 01:00:37,670 and they're going to stay our partners, 1137 01:00:37,767 --> 01:00:39,246 and so every business that we do, 1138 01:00:39,335 --> 01:00:41,815 they're going to get 25% of whatever we do. 1139 01:00:41,904 --> 01:00:43,975 Howard, I know how difficult this has been, 1140 01:00:44,073 --> 01:00:47,316 I thank you, you have the condolences of all of the 1141 01:00:47,410 --> 01:00:50,914 CNN family, and everybody in the world. 1142 01:00:51,014 --> 01:00:52,015 Thank you. 1143 01:00:52,115 --> 01:00:52,786 Hang tough Howard. 1144 01:00:52,882 --> 01:00:53,952 Thanks. 1145 01:00:54,050 --> 01:00:56,189 God bless, you'll he saying kaddish a longtime. 1146 01:00:56,285 --> 01:00:58,196 Forever I think. 1147 01:01:09,332 --> 01:01:12,142 I remember calling the Monsignor of my Parish. 1148 01:01:12,235 --> 01:01:15,808 You know, uh, and saying, look Monsignor, 1149 01:01:15,905 --> 01:01:19,318 cause my Mom, you know, was that old school German. 1150 01:01:19,409 --> 01:01:22,049 We gotta have a service, we can't just wait, 1151 01:01:22,145 --> 01:01:23,123 we gotta do something. 1152 01:01:23,212 --> 01:01:25,715 And I'm like, "Well, what are we going to do? 1153 01:01:25,815 --> 01:01:28,421 We don't have anything to have a service with. 1154 01:01:28,518 --> 01:01:30,020 What do we do, have a service?" 1155 01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:31,120 And I called the-m 1156 01:01:31,220 --> 01:01:32,426 I go, Monsignor you know we're a Roman Catholic 1157 01:01:32,522 --> 01:01:35,628 family, we don't have a body, 1158 01:01:35,725 --> 01:01:38,205 we don't know if we ever will get a body back. 1159 01:01:38,294 --> 01:01:39,773 What can we do? 1160 01:01:39,862 --> 01:01:41,170 It was really hard, because they had found 1161 01:01:41,264 --> 01:01:42,504 Steven but they hadn't found Mark. 1162 01:01:42,598 --> 01:01:45,636 You know we wanted to do it together. 1163 01:01:45,735 --> 01:01:47,009 But it was also hard for my in-laws because they 1164 01:01:47,103 --> 01:01:48,878 didn't want to do anything. 1165 01:01:48,971 --> 01:01:51,110 I mean they wanted to have a memorial for Mark but 1166 01:01:51,207 --> 01:01:53,881 they also wanted to try to wait for you know 1167 01:01:53,976 --> 01:01:55,011 them to find him. 1168 01:01:55,111 --> 01:01:56,283 But I said, you know, "It could never happen, 1169 01:01:56,379 --> 01:01:58,256 you don't know." 1170 01:02:22,038 --> 01:02:27,078 The sheer number of the memorials was unbelievable. 1171 01:02:27,176 --> 01:02:31,386 The fact that there were so many going on each day, 1172 01:02:31,481 --> 01:02:35,486 and that you actually had to choose which memorials 1173 01:02:35,585 --> 01:02:39,089 you went to versus other memorials. 1174 01:02:39,188 --> 01:02:42,032 You can't go to all the funerals. 1175 01:02:42,125 --> 01:02:43,866 It's not humanly possible because that means there 1176 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:53,074 would be ten a day, everyday, for 65 days. 1177 01:02:53,169 --> 01:02:55,445 There's only so many hours in a day. 1178 01:02:55,538 --> 01:02:57,848 So people wanted to know what time was available. 1179 01:02:57,940 --> 01:03:01,046 They wanted everyone to he at their service. 1180 01:03:01,144 --> 01:03:04,023 And I remember going on the website and looking. 1181 01:03:04,113 --> 01:03:06,684 It might've been 16 all at 10am. 1182 01:03:06,783 --> 01:03:08,456 Some at 10:30. 1183 01:03:08,551 --> 01:03:10,462 It was heartbreaking. 1184 01:03:18,327 --> 01:03:21,797 Stu Fraser's brother-in-law died. 1185 01:03:21,898 --> 01:03:27,280 And his memorial was the same time as my roommate 1186 01:03:27,370 --> 01:03:30,408 in college's brother. 1187 01:03:30,506 --> 01:03:32,486 One was in Westchester. 1188 01:03:32,575 --> 01:03:38,150 One was in Manhattan. 1189 01:03:38,247 --> 01:03:39,351 It was a real conflict. 1190 01:03:39,448 --> 01:03:41,655 I mean, I had two guys who worked with me who were 1191 01:03:41,751 --> 01:03:43,355 being buried at the same time. 1192 01:03:43,452 --> 01:03:44,795 Jersey and Long Island. 1193 01:03:44,887 --> 01:03:46,662 And you know, you had to choose. 1194 01:03:46,756 --> 01:03:48,235 I mean the wives totally understood, and it's, 1195 01:03:48,324 --> 01:03:51,828 you know, surreal I mean you had to choose funerals? 1196 01:03:51,928 --> 01:03:53,874 I mean... 1197 01:03:53,963 --> 01:03:55,704 It was bizzare, meanwhile you had to work too, 1198 01:03:55,798 --> 01:03:59,268 you had a job to do, so like, you know, 1199 01:03:59,368 --> 01:04:00,244 in the morning you'd he working and in the 1200 01:04:00,336 --> 01:04:01,542 afternoon you'd he going to funerals. 1201 01:04:01,637 --> 01:04:03,617 You know, it's crazy. 1202 01:04:03,706 --> 01:04:05,549 There's one in Long Island, 1203 01:04:05,641 --> 01:04:06,745 it was a guy who was a really good friend of 1204 01:04:06,843 --> 01:04:07,913 yours, and one in Connecticut at the same 1205 01:04:08,010 --> 01:04:11,514 time, but you can't go to both of them, you know. 1206 01:04:11,614 --> 01:04:12,888 So, I mean, you're sitting there, 1207 01:04:12,982 --> 01:04:14,017 you're sitting there trying to decide, 1208 01:04:14,116 --> 01:04:15,754 "Whose funeral am I going to go to?" 1209 01:04:15,852 --> 01:04:17,798 Going from one, to the next to the next to the 1210 01:04:17,887 --> 01:04:23,735 point where I was, I know the Eucharist by heart. 1211 01:04:23,826 --> 01:04:27,137 I knew all the memorial services - Irish Catholic, 1212 01:04:27,230 --> 01:04:31,440 Roman Catholic, Protestant, Jewish. 1213 01:04:31,534 --> 01:04:34,777 By the end of the next month, 1214 01:04:34,871 --> 01:04:37,477 I could sing every hymn at the church. 1215 01:04:37,573 --> 01:04:39,075 I've been to too many funerals. 1216 01:04:39,175 --> 01:04:40,051 You know, more... 1217 01:04:40,142 --> 01:04:42,053 A lifetime's worth already. 1218 01:04:52,321 --> 01:04:55,928 It's what we did for, you know, 1219 01:04:56,025 --> 01:04:58,938 two and a hall months. 1220 01:05:03,799 --> 01:05:06,746 I had people come up to me alter, 1221 01:05:06,836 --> 01:05:09,817 in various times, alter the memorial service, 1222 01:05:09,906 --> 01:05:12,944 "Oh you're such a strong person." 1223 01:05:13,042 --> 01:05:15,716 That's because they didn't see me...dissolving. 1224 01:05:15,811 --> 01:05:18,849 Strong? 1225 01:05:18,948 --> 01:05:24,193 I wasn't strong, I was falling apart. 1226 01:05:24,287 --> 01:05:27,393 Everything became so inconsequential. 1227 01:05:27,490 --> 01:05:31,063 Part of what happened that day is, 1228 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,333 "it doesn't matter, let's face it." 1229 01:05:33,429 --> 01:05:36,876 How focused can you he when your raison d'etre 1230 01:05:36,966 --> 01:05:39,173 is, "Who cares?" 1231 01:05:39,268 --> 01:05:39,837 You know? 1232 01:05:39,936 --> 01:05:41,745 Whose mantra is that? 1233 01:05:49,645 --> 01:05:56,187 ♪ Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of ♪ 1234 01:05:56,285 --> 01:06:03,134 ♪ the Lord: He is trampling out the vintage where the ♪ 1235 01:06:03,225 --> 01:06:06,638 ♪ grapes of wrath are stored; ♪ 1236 01:06:06,729 --> 01:06:13,806 ♪ He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible ♪ 1237 01:06:13,903 --> 01:06:18,903 ♪ swift sword: His truth is marching on. ♪ 1238 01:06:25,982 --> 01:06:35,027 ♪ Glory, glory, hallelujah! ♪ 1239 01:06:35,124 --> 01:06:36,569 When Rudy Giuliani came to speak at our first 1240 01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:38,297 memorial, he comes up to me, he goes, 1241 01:06:38,394 --> 01:06:40,032 "Who are all these people, I mean they just..." 1242 01:06:40,129 --> 01:06:42,575 He expected he would he speaking at a memorial hut 1243 01:06:42,665 --> 01:06:46,306 he had no sense that what could possibly have 5000 1244 01:06:46,402 --> 01:06:50,475 people there, and the answer was you have 658 1245 01:06:50,573 --> 01:06:52,280 people who died and they all have mothers and 1246 01:06:52,375 --> 01:06:55,618 fathers, sisters and brothers, children, 1247 01:06:55,711 --> 01:07:02,720 friends, cousins, grandparents, in laws, 1248 01:07:02,818 --> 01:07:06,595 and the widows all have all of their friends. 1249 01:07:06,689 --> 01:07:09,602 And it was only just a small part of them. 1250 01:07:15,464 --> 01:07:20,413 You know, in these past three weeks, 1251 01:07:20,503 --> 01:07:26,078 we have felt more pain and sadness than I think 1252 01:07:26,175 --> 01:07:30,783 collectively any of us had ever thought we could bear. 1253 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,123 I have tried to speak to as many of you as I can 1254 01:07:34,216 --> 01:07:38,062 and I apologize for my failings but I will try as 1255 01:07:38,154 --> 01:07:40,361 best I can, going forward to make sure I stay 1256 01:07:40,456 --> 01:07:42,265 connected with all of you. 1257 01:07:42,358 --> 01:07:46,329 And not just now, but for the rest of my life 1258 01:07:46,429 --> 01:07:48,739 because that is what matters to me and that's 1259 01:07:48,831 --> 01:07:50,742 what matters to all of us. 1260 01:07:57,206 --> 01:07:58,241 When we were at the memorial, 1261 01:07:58,340 --> 01:08:00,445 one of the widows, I will not say her name, 1262 01:08:00,543 --> 01:08:02,454 Howard's talking and she's just like, "Oh, 1263 01:08:02,545 --> 01:08:04,718 luck you" and "You asshole". 1264 01:08:04,814 --> 01:08:07,886 Just out loud screaming "Asshole!" 1265 01:08:07,983 --> 01:08:11,487 Because, about the paychecks. 1266 01:08:11,587 --> 01:08:13,430 The day of our memorial, October 1st, 1267 01:08:13,522 --> 01:08:16,025 the media ceases to he positive. 1268 01:08:16,125 --> 01:08:18,571 There's an article in the New York Times that quote 1269 01:08:18,661 --> 01:08:20,334 families saying, "Why aren't they paying us 1270 01:08:20,429 --> 01:08:22,568 salary through the end of the year? 1271 01:08:22,665 --> 01:08:24,975 We've not heard from them. 1272 01:08:25,067 --> 01:08:27,980 We don't know when he's paying us our bonuses. 1273 01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:29,811 Can you trust the CEO? 1274 01:08:29,905 --> 01:08:31,816 I think not." 1275 01:08:39,815 --> 01:08:41,954 Two days alter the World trade Center Attack, 1276 01:08:42,051 --> 01:08:43,530 Connie Chung brought you one of the most 1277 01:08:43,619 --> 01:08:45,360 moving interviews. 1278 01:08:45,454 --> 01:08:48,765 Howard Lutnick, the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald, 1279 01:08:48,858 --> 01:08:50,929 sobbing on national television. 1280 01:08:51,026 --> 01:08:53,063 It has been almost a month since Howard 1281 01:08:53,162 --> 01:08:56,871 Lutnick's pain and anguish transfixed a nation. 1282 01:08:56,966 --> 01:08:59,537 CEO Howard Lutnick made the media rounds 1283 01:08:59,635 --> 01:09:01,273 and was very emotional. 1284 01:09:01,370 --> 01:09:03,077 Another story may he unfolding. 1285 01:09:03,172 --> 01:09:05,209 Was all over the media promising to take care of 1286 01:09:05,307 --> 01:09:06,752 his employees' families. 1287 01:09:06,842 --> 01:09:09,823 But now, many of those families are feeling 1288 01:09:09,912 --> 01:09:12,290 anything but being taken care of. 1289 01:09:12,381 --> 01:09:14,258 Lutnick was all over national television saying 1290 01:09:14,350 --> 01:09:16,193 that he that would do whatever he could for the 1291 01:09:16,285 --> 01:09:17,787 families of the missing employees. 1292 01:09:17,887 --> 01:09:19,798 Well, it was about a week later that those families 1293 01:09:19,889 --> 01:09:21,664 learned that all their paychecks were going 1294 01:09:21,757 --> 01:09:22,997 to stop immediately. 1295 01:09:23,092 --> 01:09:24,594 But what happened alter the cameras went all 1296 01:09:24,693 --> 01:09:27,299 turned into another story. 1297 01:09:27,396 --> 01:09:31,811 HL went on TV on this program and said that he 1298 01:09:31,901 --> 01:09:35,474 was going to take care of his employees' families. 1299 01:09:35,571 --> 01:09:38,484 How many of you feel that he has done that? 1300 01:09:41,477 --> 01:09:44,390 How many of you feel that he has not done that? 1301 01:09:45,614 --> 01:09:48,254 Three weeks alter September 11th we're 1302 01:09:48,350 --> 01:09:51,763 getting , you know really, our pants beaten in. 1303 01:09:51,854 --> 01:09:53,959 You know we were like a giant pinata. 1304 01:09:54,056 --> 01:09:55,467 I mean they were just swinging at us and we're 1305 01:09:55,558 --> 01:09:57,162 just getting pounded. 1306 01:09:57,259 --> 01:09:59,261 So we had this big wave that we were on 1307 01:09:59,361 --> 01:10:01,841 top 01,0! sympathy. 1308 01:10:01,931 --> 01:10:05,310 And then, and then the bad press came and we fell 1309 01:10:05,401 --> 01:10:07,540 down here and we got crushed, 1310 01:10:07,636 --> 01:10:09,809 and we got crushed, and we got crushed, 1311 01:10:09,905 --> 01:10:11,509 and crushed again. 1312 01:10:11,607 --> 01:10:17,319 I mean it became something, something from, 1313 01:10:17,413 --> 01:10:19,893 something that you could never imagine. 1314 01:10:19,982 --> 01:10:21,188 I get a list at the end of the day. 1315 01:10:21,283 --> 01:10:25,629 There were 75 calls from different media. 1316 01:10:25,721 --> 01:10:28,065 Every newspaper, every radio station, 1317 01:10:28,157 --> 01:10:30,967 every television station, every kind of show, 1318 01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:33,062 every kind of reporter. 1319 01:10:33,162 --> 01:10:40,102 ABC, NBC, CBS, you know, cable television. 1320 01:10:40,202 --> 01:10:42,876 Why would he cry, soh on television? 1321 01:10:42,972 --> 01:10:44,974 Are you suggesting that he just turned on the tears? 1322 01:10:45,074 --> 01:10:46,382 Oh yeah. 1323 01:10:46,475 --> 01:10:47,647 Yeah. 1324 01:10:47,743 --> 01:10:49,154 Have you heard from Mr. Lutnick. 1325 01:10:49,245 --> 01:10:50,383 No I haven't. 1326 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:51,617 Not a word. 1327 01:10:51,714 --> 01:10:55,389 No I've called him and there's been no phone callback. 1328 01:10:55,484 --> 01:10:57,293 Why would Lutnick so publicly promise to 1329 01:10:57,386 --> 01:10:59,764 support the families one minute and cut them all at 1330 01:10:59,855 --> 01:11:01,926 the knees the next? 1331 01:11:02,024 --> 01:11:04,504 Wall Street watchers say, "That's the cutthroat 1332 01:11:04,593 --> 01:11:06,038 Howard Lutnick they know." 1333 01:11:06,128 --> 01:11:07,766 But I'm just the saddest person in the 1334 01:11:07,863 --> 01:11:09,171 world and they chose to he with me. 1335 01:11:09,265 --> 01:11:11,108 Not the caring and generous CEO portrayed 1336 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,441 on television. 1337 01:11:13,535 --> 01:11:14,946 It was like a sound, it was like a vacuum sound, 1338 01:11:15,037 --> 01:11:19,042 that started with the NYT article and then sort of 1339 01:11:19,141 --> 01:11:21,621 this sensational news magazine journalists just 1340 01:11:21,710 --> 01:11:24,657 taking from us all the support that we had had as 1341 01:11:24,747 --> 01:11:28,160 people just ran for the hills because we 1342 01:11:28,250 --> 01:11:29,854 must he had people. 1343 01:11:29,952 --> 01:11:32,899 We were not an organization that could he 1344 01:11:32,988 --> 01:11:37,198 embraced with open arms alter that because it 1345 01:11:37,293 --> 01:11:41,207 looked like we weren't clean. 1346 01:11:45,701 --> 01:11:48,045 There were some women, and believe me I'm not 1347 01:11:48,137 --> 01:11:49,639 giving anybody a hard time because God knows what 1348 01:11:49,738 --> 01:11:51,649 they were going through, but you know they're going 1349 01:11:51,740 --> 01:11:53,219 on television saying how they're not getting any 1350 01:11:53,309 --> 01:11:54,947 information, they're not getting help from this and that. 1351 01:11:55,044 --> 01:11:57,251 You know, human resources can't call you because 1352 01:11:57,346 --> 01:11:58,825 they're all dead. 1353 01:11:58,914 --> 01:12:00,951 We don't have a human resources department. 1354 01:12:01,050 --> 01:12:02,358 You know, we don't have a corporate communications 1355 01:12:02,451 --> 01:12:04,089 department, we don't have an accounting department 1356 01:12:04,186 --> 01:12:07,565 to tell you what we think your husband's check was 1357 01:12:07,656 --> 01:12:08,964 supposed to be for the quarter. 1358 01:12:09,058 --> 01:12:10,196 We don't know. 1359 01:12:10,292 --> 01:12:14,798 You know, it was a, it was a horrible thing. 1360 01:12:14,897 --> 01:12:19,505 There was a lot of anger and suspicion and doubt. 1361 01:12:19,601 --> 01:12:21,308 People were just scared. 1362 01:12:21,403 --> 01:12:23,007 And they didn't know what the future held, 1363 01:12:23,105 --> 01:12:27,850 they didn't know if they you know count on Howard, 1364 01:12:27,943 --> 01:12:29,445 or count on Cantor. 1365 01:12:29,545 --> 01:12:33,493 People needed to locus their anger in some 1366 01:12:33,582 --> 01:12:35,823 direction and Howard became a great foil 1367 01:12:35,918 --> 01:12:38,421 for those people. 1368 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,557 And our business started evaporating. 1369 01:12:40,656 --> 01:12:42,465 I was getting calls all night long from people in 1370 01:12:42,558 --> 01:12:46,096 Chicago saying, uhm, "You know, 1371 01:12:46,195 --> 01:12:47,139 my best customer is calling saying what 1372 01:12:47,229 --> 01:12:48,503 the heck is going on? 1373 01:12:48,597 --> 01:12:50,838 Are you reneging? 1374 01:12:50,933 --> 01:12:52,241 Has something happened?" 1375 01:12:52,334 --> 01:12:53,278 So you're getting the phone calls from the 1376 01:12:53,369 --> 01:12:54,973 customers, "Are you sure that, you know, 1377 01:12:55,070 --> 01:12:56,777 the money you're saying you're going to give them 1378 01:12:56,872 --> 01:12:58,351 what you're going to give them because I'm trying to 1379 01:12:58,440 --> 01:13:01,046 help out my friend's family that I did business 1380 01:13:01,143 --> 01:13:02,178 with for ten years. 1381 01:13:02,277 --> 01:13:03,312 Are you sure you're not going to screw them?" 1382 01:13:03,412 --> 01:13:04,186 The company was not strong enough to take that 1383 01:13:04,279 --> 01:13:07,988 so the company started you know, 1384 01:13:08,083 --> 01:13:14,500 tilting and the business started dropping. 1385 01:13:14,590 --> 01:13:15,864 I really was starting to lose faith that we would 1386 01:13:15,958 --> 01:13:17,665 actually be able to take care of the families. 1387 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,467 We were, the tide was turning and it was turning 1388 01:13:19,561 --> 01:13:21,472 hard against us. 1389 01:13:23,766 --> 01:13:26,007 Lutnick owes the country an explanation and 1390 01:13:26,101 --> 01:13:27,876 until he shows up and gives it he is 1391 01:13:27,970 --> 01:13:29,608 questionable in my opinion. 1392 01:13:29,705 --> 01:13:30,683 William Hudson from Portland, 1393 01:13:30,773 --> 01:13:32,343 Oregon sent us this note: "The callousness of 1394 01:13:32,441 --> 01:13:34,853 Howard Lutnick made my blood boil." 1395 01:13:34,943 --> 01:13:36,388 Tiffany Towers of Los Angeles: "Bill thank you 1396 01:13:36,478 --> 01:13:38,583 for exposing Lutnick for what he is. 1397 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,819 I made a significant contribution to his fund. 1398 01:13:40,916 --> 01:13:43,829 I will not be taken again by the likes of him. 1399 01:13:43,919 --> 01:13:45,125 Bill O'Reilly got people to stop giving 1400 01:13:45,220 --> 01:13:47,200 to the relief fund. 1401 01:13:47,289 --> 01:13:48,825 I mean people were calling the relief fund saying, 1402 01:13:48,924 --> 01:13:50,699 "Can I have my money hack. 1403 01:13:50,793 --> 01:13:52,329 You know, Howard Lutnick is not helping the families." 1404 01:13:52,428 --> 01:13:53,338 They would call up and say, 1405 01:13:53,429 --> 01:13:54,373 "Well I want my money hack." 1406 01:13:54,463 --> 01:13:55,840 And I was like, "Well that's nice, 1407 01:13:55,931 --> 01:13:58,571 which family would you like me to take your $50 from?" 1408 01:13:58,667 --> 01:13:59,907 You know because alter that the checks, 1409 01:14:00,002 --> 01:14:01,913 we had already sent checks out. 1410 01:14:02,604 --> 01:14:05,585 The hate letters started coming in to the office. 1411 01:14:11,547 --> 01:14:14,027 Sometimes I'd come into the hotline and there's 1412 01:14:14,116 --> 01:14:16,892 like 50 messages from the night before. 1413 01:14:16,985 --> 01:14:19,898 "Drop dead" and just nasty, horrible things. 1414 01:14:25,994 --> 01:14:27,530 There would he faxes that came in that were 1415 01:14:27,629 --> 01:14:29,267 just really awful. 1416 01:14:29,364 --> 01:14:30,934 Yeah like, "You should be ashamed of yourself" 1417 01:14:31,033 --> 01:14:34,310 and "How dare you" and "You're disgusting." 1418 01:14:34,403 --> 01:14:36,144 We started to get phone messages from this 1419 01:14:36,238 --> 01:14:39,515 answering service, "Howard, you should die in the next 1420 01:14:39,608 --> 01:14:41,315 terrorist attack" and then 1421 01:14:41,410 --> 01:14:43,117 the operator would write like, 1422 01:14:43,212 --> 01:14:45,886 all these little symbols for like curse words. 1423 01:14:45,981 --> 01:14:47,119 And then she put in parenthesis, 1424 01:14:47,216 --> 01:14:49,321 "Sorry but I can't write out these had words. 1425 01:14:49,418 --> 01:14:53,195 The man was cursing at Howard." 1426 01:14:53,288 --> 01:14:54,392 The way that people attacked him was 1427 01:14:54,490 --> 01:14:56,697 just phenomenal. 1428 01:14:56,792 --> 01:14:58,601 And you know it was him. 1429 01:14:58,694 --> 01:14:59,695 No one else, they didn't attack Lee, 1430 01:14:59,795 --> 01:15:01,069 they didn't attack me, they didn't attack you 1431 01:15:01,163 --> 01:15:04,804 know, Steven, they didn't attack any of us. 1432 01:15:04,900 --> 01:15:06,811 It was all Howard. 1433 01:15:08,437 --> 01:15:12,385 I was getting poems written that I should he killed. 1434 01:15:12,474 --> 01:15:16,718 That the next plane that crashes should hit my house. 1435 01:15:16,812 --> 01:15:19,452 People threatening to do harm to my family. 1436 01:15:19,548 --> 01:15:22,552 You know, lots of threats on me personally, saying, 1437 01:15:22,651 --> 01:15:23,686 "You're the most disgusting human 1438 01:15:23,785 --> 01:15:26,493 being on Earth." 1439 01:15:26,588 --> 01:15:28,659 l turned to Howard and I said, 1440 01:15:28,757 --> 01:15:30,498 "We have to change our number, 1441 01:15:30,592 --> 01:15:32,629 and we need to get new door locks, 1442 01:15:32,728 --> 01:15:34,571 and we need window guards on all the windows, 1443 01:15:34,663 --> 01:15:37,371 change every lock. 1444 01:15:37,466 --> 01:15:40,037 Child guard gates put on all of the windows 1445 01:15:40,135 --> 01:15:41,478 in the basement." 1446 01:15:41,570 --> 01:15:44,551 And I was making my house like a prison. 1447 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,246 You know my wife was freaked out to go outside. 1448 01:15:47,342 --> 01:15:49,686 She was afraid, we stopped using the front 1449 01:15:49,778 --> 01:15:52,554 door of our home. 1450 01:15:52,648 --> 01:15:53,786 You know, only go out the hack, 1451 01:15:53,882 --> 01:15:55,862 only have someone check to make sure no one was 1452 01:15:55,951 --> 01:16:02,561 outside first, I mean we were scared. 1453 01:16:02,658 --> 01:16:03,568 Scared. 1454 01:16:15,304 --> 01:16:18,478 When they had the first town meeting, 1455 01:16:18,574 --> 01:16:20,576 I went there and Howard was meeting people 1456 01:16:20,676 --> 01:16:22,246 as they came in. 1457 01:16:22,344 --> 01:16:24,790 Howard said 'Hi I'm Howard and I uh, 1458 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:29,954 I lost my brother Gary' and I said 'I'm truly 1459 01:16:30,052 --> 01:16:32,760 sorry for your loss and you have my condolences, 1460 01:16:32,854 --> 01:16:34,527 but' I said 'I lost both my daughters and I've got 1461 01:16:34,623 --> 01:16:36,660 some tough questions for you'. 1462 01:16:36,758 --> 01:16:42,071 We went in there and it was definitely angry. 1463 01:16:42,164 --> 01:16:43,404 Everyone from the area wanted to hear what 1464 01:16:43,498 --> 01:16:45,171 Howard had to say. 1465 01:16:45,267 --> 01:16:47,372 They were accusational. 1466 01:16:47,469 --> 01:16:50,075 It was an ugly start to the meeting. 1467 01:16:50,172 --> 01:16:51,651 The first meeting was very raw, 1468 01:16:51,740 --> 01:16:54,584 very raw with emotion, people were lashing out 1469 01:16:54,676 --> 01:16:56,314 and a lot of them didn't make sense. 1470 01:16:56,411 --> 01:16:58,618 Just... 1471 01:16:58,714 --> 01:17:02,457 I don't know, I thought they were mad at him for living. 1472 01:17:02,551 --> 01:17:04,827 I wasn't welcome. 1473 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,423 I was visiting their turf. 1474 01:17:07,522 --> 01:17:09,627 I was the... 1475 01:17:09,725 --> 01:17:11,363 you know, I was the enemy. 1476 01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:12,734 I remember one woman 'what are you going 1477 01:17:12,828 --> 01:17:14,239 to do for us? 1478 01:17:14,329 --> 01:17:15,637 You know, how are you going to survive this you 1479 01:17:15,731 --> 01:17:17,142 lost everybody how can you tell us that the firm is 1480 01:17:17,232 --> 01:17:19,109 going to be fine?' 1481 01:17:19,201 --> 01:17:20,305 Wait a minute, you said you were going to do this 1482 01:17:20,402 --> 01:17:22,177 and nothing's happened I haven't heard from 1483 01:17:22,270 --> 01:17:23,305 you so where is it? 1484 01:17:23,405 --> 01:17:24,543 You know, everybody's thinking you're so 1485 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,348 wonderful but you promised us and it hasn't happened. 1486 01:17:27,442 --> 01:17:30,548 There was just anger, so much anger it was 1487 01:17:30,646 --> 01:17:32,853 unbelievable, and so l said 'you've just got to 1488 01:17:32,948 --> 01:17:34,325 listen to me and they were, like, 1489 01:17:34,416 --> 01:17:37,693 yelling at me and it's just, just listen. 1490 01:17:37,786 --> 01:17:40,266 The company's going to pay for 10 years of your 1491 01:17:40,355 --> 01:17:42,198 healthcare. 1492 01:17:42,290 --> 01:17:43,268 It was... 1493 01:17:43,358 --> 01:17:45,201 silent. 1494 01:17:45,293 --> 01:17:48,934 It went from boisterous to silent, like silent, 1495 01:17:49,031 --> 01:17:51,807 and I didn't know I thought maybe someone was 1496 01:17:51,900 --> 01:17:54,403 going to throw something, I had no idea whether that 1497 01:17:54,503 --> 01:17:59,680 was good or bad I just, I just sort of stood there 1498 01:17:59,775 --> 01:18:03,484 and it was silent, I was silent, 1499 01:18:03,578 --> 01:18:06,582 so I said it again. 1500 01:18:06,682 --> 01:18:11,722 And then one woman stood up and started clapping", 1501 01:18:11,820 --> 01:18:17,964 and, and then everybody started clapping, 1502 01:18:18,060 --> 01:18:21,769 and I guess it just dawned anthem at that time that 1503 01:18:21,863 --> 01:18:24,707 I actually wasn't out to hurt them. 1504 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,802 And then we talked. 1505 01:18:26,902 --> 01:18:28,882 And I started by saying that I'm going to stay 1506 01:18:28,970 --> 01:18:31,382 here until there's no more questions to answer. 1507 01:18:31,473 --> 01:18:32,451 And when there's no more questions, 1508 01:18:32,541 --> 01:18:33,542 then I'll leave, but I'm not leaving until I'm 1509 01:18:33,642 --> 01:18:36,623 the last person standing. 1510 01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:38,214 They might listen to him. 1511 01:18:38,313 --> 01:18:41,886 I heard a man who broke down in his voice. 1512 01:18:41,983 --> 01:18:46,989 Who, uh was frustrated and trying to do something and 1513 01:18:47,089 --> 01:18:48,500 this was what he could do. 1514 01:18:48,590 --> 01:18:52,037 I later realized he promised too much too soon 1515 01:18:52,127 --> 01:18:54,004 [he was too last] he couldn't, 1516 01:18:54,096 --> 01:18:56,235 he didn't have time to follow through. 1517 01:18:56,331 --> 01:18:58,038 And I think also, I mean I don't know about the 1518 01:18:58,133 --> 01:19:01,171 other people but that was like October, 1519 01:19:01,269 --> 01:19:03,579 you're grieving, you know? 1520 01:19:03,672 --> 01:19:05,481 You're not thinking logically. 1521 01:19:05,574 --> 01:19:10,182 So then I start doing this in every town. 1522 01:19:10,278 --> 01:19:13,054 I go to Long Island and I have it in Manhattan and I 1523 01:19:13,148 --> 01:19:14,559 have it in Staten Island and I do it in North 1524 01:19:14,649 --> 01:19:16,788 Jersey and South Jersey and, uh, 1525 01:19:16,885 --> 01:19:19,889 in Queens and Connecticut, we're doing it in 1526 01:19:19,988 --> 01:19:26,906 churches, we're doing it in schools. 1527 01:19:26,995 --> 01:19:28,633 The next thing that happened was, 1528 01:19:28,730 --> 01:19:31,267 I said 'I'll come hack' and I don't think the 1529 01:19:31,366 --> 01:19:35,940 people in these towns ever thought I was coming hack. 1530 01:19:36,037 --> 01:19:38,313 And two weeks later I came hack again. 1531 01:19:38,406 --> 01:19:39,976 And we went through it again. 1532 01:19:40,075 --> 01:19:41,577 And then the next set of meetings and by the time 1533 01:19:41,676 --> 01:19:42,950 you come hack the third time you know, 1534 01:19:43,044 --> 01:19:44,421 you get a lot of converts, then you get people 1535 01:19:44,513 --> 01:19:46,823 talking to other people in the community saying 'you 1536 01:19:46,915 --> 01:19:49,555 know you should go' they say 'why would I go?' 1537 01:19:49,651 --> 01:19:53,121 'listen you know you should go!' 1538 01:19:53,221 --> 01:19:56,065 and so the process began and then Cantor Fitzgerald 1539 01:19:56,158 --> 01:19:59,867 was moving forward with these families. 1540 01:19:59,961 --> 01:20:01,770 "We feel like we have a family with us, 1541 01:20:01,863 --> 01:20:03,934 behind us" "Thank you, what can I say?" 1542 01:20:04,032 --> 01:20:05,602 It's my honor. 1543 01:20:05,700 --> 01:20:07,043 "I appreciate it. 1544 01:20:07,135 --> 01:20:08,205 I thank you very much for all your efforts. 1545 01:20:08,303 --> 01:20:09,373 Thank you so much, really appreciate it." 1546 01:20:09,471 --> 01:20:11,348 Thanks a lot. 1547 01:20:17,078 --> 01:20:21,049 This is 1010WINS it is Sunday December 30th, 1548 01:20:21,149 --> 01:20:23,151 I'm Brian Carey and here's what's happening. 1549 01:20:23,251 --> 01:20:24,559 Huge crowds wait on line for the 1550 01:20:24,653 --> 01:20:26,462 Ground Zero viewing platform. 1551 01:20:26,555 --> 01:20:29,434 People lined up for almost five city blocks to be the 1552 01:20:29,524 --> 01:20:32,004 first to view the World Trade Center disaster 1553 01:20:32,093 --> 01:20:36,132 site, the platform can hold about 400 people at a time. 1554 01:20:36,231 --> 01:20:38,609 From there visitors can see the crater, 1555 01:20:38,700 --> 01:20:41,579 they can also buy World Trade Center memorabilia 1556 01:20:41,670 --> 01:20:43,274 from street vendors, which offends some people who 1557 01:20:43,371 --> 01:20:46,011 say it makes a circus out of a sacred site 1558 01:20:46,107 --> 01:20:48,018 for so many people. 1559 01:20:50,745 --> 01:20:52,315 This could be a mailroom for all you know 1560 01:20:52,414 --> 01:20:53,722 if you came in off the street. 1561 01:20:53,815 --> 01:20:56,989 So where you can find a desk is where you work, 1562 01:20:57,085 --> 01:20:58,962 so there's no such thing as 'this department is in 1563 01:20:59,054 --> 01:21:00,761 here' there's eight departments in here. 1564 01:21:00,856 --> 01:21:03,166 This hall served for meeting rooms, 1565 01:21:03,258 --> 01:21:04,532 you might as well film these, 1566 01:21:04,626 --> 01:21:07,573 because these are also our meeting rooms. 1567 01:21:07,662 --> 01:21:10,165 We had temporary space, and when you think of our 1568 01:21:10,265 --> 01:21:13,178 company having the top, you know, 1569 01:21:13,268 --> 01:21:15,771 five floors of the World Trade Center, 1570 01:21:15,871 --> 01:21:18,750 and now we have... 1571 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,717 you know, it's just, uh, a door at the end of the 1572 01:21:20,809 --> 01:21:22,686 hallway where someone tapes the name 1573 01:21:22,777 --> 01:21:25,758 Cantor Fitzgerald and that's it. 1574 01:21:25,847 --> 01:21:28,123 There are two desks here, 1575 01:21:28,216 --> 01:21:30,526 in that corner is the credit derivatives group; 1576 01:21:30,619 --> 01:21:31,962 these fellas are doing foreign exchange options, 1577 01:21:32,053 --> 01:21:33,964 not the best of conditions. 1578 01:21:56,244 --> 01:21:58,690 People often ask 'how are things at Cantor now 1579 01:21:58,780 --> 01:22:01,056 or, or what's it like?' 1580 01:22:01,149 --> 01:22:04,096 It's a hard question to answer, 1581 01:22:04,185 --> 01:22:08,327 it's not normal because the situation's just not normal. 1582 01:22:08,423 --> 01:22:12,371 And so while the rest of the country moves on and 1583 01:22:12,460 --> 01:22:17,460 we "move on", it's just always going to he there 1584 01:22:24,506 --> 01:22:28,420 and that's just the way it's always going to he. 1585 01:22:40,021 --> 01:22:46,199 Up here I lost Fred, and Doug, and Jell, 1586 01:22:46,294 --> 01:22:48,535 and Jonathon and Dave and Glen, 1587 01:22:48,630 --> 01:22:51,110 seven out of the eleven died. 1588 01:22:51,199 --> 01:22:54,908 Looking at them, you know, having imaginary 1589 01:22:55,003 --> 01:22:57,210 conversations with them, it's been very lonely, 1590 01:22:57,305 --> 01:23:03,221 it's been very difficult, the losses feel so fresh. 1591 01:23:03,311 --> 01:23:07,020 They vanished, the building crumbled, 1592 01:23:07,115 --> 01:23:09,220 but the people vanished. 1593 01:23:09,317 --> 01:23:10,193 Right? 1594 01:23:10,285 --> 01:23:11,320 We don't, I don't even know how many, 1595 01:23:11,419 --> 01:23:12,329 if we found any parts of them. 1596 01:23:19,894 --> 01:23:22,397 I dream about these guys sometimes. 1597 01:23:22,497 --> 01:23:26,411 I have to say, it comes up for me-. 1598 01:23:33,708 --> 01:23:35,710 It was on television all the time; 1599 01:23:35,810 --> 01:23:37,687 they kept just showing that plane going into the 1600 01:23:37,779 --> 01:23:39,190 building, you'd turn on the television set and 1601 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:40,520 you'd see those planes hitting the building and 1602 01:23:40,615 --> 01:23:44,893 it was really like watching your brothers get 1603 01:23:44,986 --> 01:23:47,557 murdered, over and over again. 1604 01:23:47,655 --> 01:23:49,726 It was like being hit with a sledgehammer 1605 01:23:49,824 --> 01:23:51,735 fifty times a day. 1606 01:23:53,395 --> 01:23:57,070 I was sitting next to a guy, and he said to me, 1607 01:23:57,165 --> 01:24:00,339 something about 9/11 and I guess he didn't know the 1608 01:24:00,435 --> 01:24:02,244 facts about me, I said "yeah I lost my sister and 1609 01:24:02,337 --> 01:24:06,877 my nephew, and he turned around and he said 'wow, 1610 01:24:06,975 --> 01:24:10,252 how cool is that, I haven't met anyone.' and I 1611 01:24:10,345 --> 01:24:14,054 looked, I was mortified, I was speechless. 1612 01:24:14,149 --> 01:24:16,561 I just remember this one woman saying how it 1613 01:24:16,651 --> 01:24:20,292 looked beautiful, and whether it was the towers 1614 01:24:20,388 --> 01:24:23,267 being hit or the towers crumbling, 1615 01:24:23,358 --> 01:24:28,273 and I just remembered thinking 'doesn't she get it?' 1616 01:24:28,363 --> 01:24:30,240 that maybe she shouldn't he telling this to me. 1617 01:24:41,976 --> 01:24:47,654 It was one year ago today, September 11,2001, 1618 01:24:47,749 --> 01:24:50,457 we lost our husbands and wives, 1619 01:24:50,552 --> 01:24:52,828 brothers and sisters, we lost our children, 1620 01:24:52,921 --> 01:24:58,371 we lost our great friends and we lost so many of 1621 01:24:58,460 --> 01:25:01,168 our colleagues. 1622 01:25:01,262 --> 01:25:05,472 Together this group has suffered unthinkable pain 1623 01:25:05,567 --> 01:25:09,640 and sadness, the loss remains ever around us and 1624 01:25:09,737 --> 01:25:17,451 at times it certainly feels overwhelming. 1625 01:25:17,545 --> 01:25:23,291 This nightmare, it just can't he one year old, can it? 1626 01:25:23,384 --> 01:25:29,266 September 10, 2001 is really a decade ago, 1627 01:25:29,357 --> 01:25:33,203 our old life is a decade ago. 1628 01:25:33,294 --> 01:25:34,773 Hey man, how are you? 1629 01:25:34,863 --> 01:25:37,275 Can't believe a year huh... 1630 01:25:37,365 --> 01:25:40,403 everything I read about you guys. though. 1631 01:25:40,502 --> 01:25:41,242 We're trying our best. 1632 01:25:41,336 --> 01:25:42,371 You're doing the right thing. 1633 01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:44,814 I wasn't going to come out today, 1634 01:25:44,906 --> 01:25:47,910 but I came out for you, for all you did for us. 1635 01:25:48,009 --> 01:25:50,319 And I thank you. 1636 01:25:50,411 --> 01:25:53,620 You know, when we go hack to work every day, 1637 01:25:53,715 --> 01:25:55,023 you know, it's like you being at home, you know, 1638 01:25:55,116 --> 01:25:56,390 we go hack to work and then we look... 1639 01:25:56,484 --> 01:25:59,055 and they're not there. 1640 01:25:59,154 --> 01:26:00,531 And so we always think of them. 1641 01:26:00,622 --> 01:26:02,158 It's never... 1642 01:26:02,257 --> 01:26:04,168 you know, we always think of them. 1643 01:26:06,327 --> 01:26:08,329 We were going along in one life, 1644 01:26:08,429 --> 01:26:11,933 and that life stopped, and we have to change direction. 1645 01:26:12,033 --> 01:26:15,776 And we can't get hack to that. 1646 01:26:15,870 --> 01:26:20,012 We now have to begin a new life and it's, 1647 01:26:20,108 --> 01:26:23,817 it's a difficult thing to do. 1648 01:26:23,912 --> 01:26:24,982 People need to see, what's it like to he in 1649 01:26:25,079 --> 01:26:26,786 9/11, that's what it means, 1650 01:26:26,881 --> 01:26:29,293 my second life has started now, the new life, 1651 01:26:29,384 --> 01:26:31,796 the new life that I didn't want, 1652 01:26:31,886 --> 01:26:33,763 that I didn't ask for, but that I have to live. 1653 01:26:33,855 --> 01:26:37,496 And forgive me if I screw, if I offend you, 1654 01:26:37,592 --> 01:26:39,594 or ill come o" the wrong way but I'm trying to work 1655 01:26:39,694 --> 01:26:40,832 my way through this. 1656 01:26:40,929 --> 01:26:43,273 My husband said to me that he wants the 1657 01:26:43,364 --> 01:26:46,436 Carolee he married, hack. 1658 01:26:46,534 --> 01:26:50,983 And I said 'she's gone, she will never be back'. 1659 01:26:51,072 --> 01:26:52,642 We are not that same person we used to he. 1660 01:26:52,740 --> 01:26:55,880 And that to him was oh my God, you know, like, 1661 01:26:55,977 --> 01:26:57,888 she's messed up, I said she's never coming hack. 1662 01:27:01,516 --> 01:27:04,360 Tonight we are going to talk about victim 1663 01:27:04,452 --> 01:27:08,525 compensation; the events of September 11th killed 1664 01:27:08,623 --> 01:27:10,830 our loved ones, okay? 1665 01:27:10,925 --> 01:27:12,734 Today is not September 11th, 1666 01:27:12,827 --> 01:27:15,865 I'm sorry to talk about this in such stark terms, 1667 01:27:15,964 --> 01:27:18,376 our loved ones would've wanted, 1668 01:27:18,466 --> 01:27:21,606 if they had to die, God forbid they had to die, 1669 01:27:21,703 --> 01:27:24,980 they would've all said 'if l have to die, 1670 01:27:25,073 --> 01:27:28,577 I want to take care of you' We clearly 1671 01:27:28,676 --> 01:27:30,246 understood that the victim's compensation 1672 01:27:30,345 --> 01:27:36,921 fund, um, was the fundamental economic event 1673 01:27:37,018 --> 01:27:39,931 that would make the most difference to these families. 1674 01:27:48,997 --> 01:27:52,911 Here's one of Ken Feinberg's favorites: "my 1675 01:27:53,001 --> 01:27:59,384 job is to value life, that's a hard job valuing 1676 01:27:59,474 --> 01:28:02,387 life" let me tell you something about the value of life. 1677 01:28:02,477 --> 01:28:06,482 My brother's life was infinitely valuable, 1678 01:28:06,581 --> 01:28:10,893 but no more so than yours, or your husbands, 1679 01:28:10,985 --> 01:28:15,400 or your sons, or your sons, or your fiancés. 1680 01:28:15,490 --> 01:28:17,401 Each and every one were perfect and infinitely 1681 01:28:17,492 --> 01:28:25,934 priceless, invaluable, for their life. 1682 01:28:26,034 --> 01:28:27,240 The Victim's Compensation Fund was a 1683 01:28:27,335 --> 01:28:29,645 topic that those 658 voices could speak as one 1684 01:28:29,737 --> 01:28:35,779 and needed to speak as one. 1685 01:28:35,877 --> 01:28:38,221 It was the most important thing we were doing and 1686 01:28:38,313 --> 01:28:40,259 that's why it drove us... 1687 01:28:40,348 --> 01:28:43,989 and it drove us. 1688 01:28:44,085 --> 01:28:47,589 But what's important is that you guys learn the 1689 01:28:47,689 --> 01:28:51,193 language to push hack, 'cause when he says I'm 1690 01:28:51,292 --> 01:28:53,033 valuing a life, 'you're supposed to stand up and 1691 01:28:53,127 --> 01:28:57,303 say 'that is bull' that's not for us to do, 1692 01:28:57,398 --> 01:29:02,347 but we can value earnings, and now this is not a 1693 01:29:02,437 --> 01:29:07,910 tough thing, this is called a [our letter word "math". 1694 01:29:08,009 --> 01:29:10,046 This is called math. 1695 01:29:10,144 --> 01:29:14,058 All he's supposed to do is value the math, the math! 1696 01:29:28,930 --> 01:29:31,206 On September 11,2001, I was nine months pregnant 1697 01:29:31,299 --> 01:29:35,406 with my daughter Danielle, and now the dreaded 1698 01:29:35,503 --> 01:29:38,848 September 11, 2003 is here upon us. 1699 01:29:38,940 --> 01:29:40,851 It is strange how on one hand, 1700 01:29:40,942 --> 01:29:44,685 time has stood still, and on the other it forges ahead. 1701 01:29:44,779 --> 01:29:47,225 The way I measure time, is how last my children are 1702 01:29:47,315 --> 01:29:50,785 growing, but for me, time and the reality which I 1703 01:29:50,885 --> 01:29:55,334 clung to stopped two years ago today. 1704 01:29:55,423 --> 01:29:57,130 We are all part of a group, 1705 01:29:57,225 --> 01:29:58,363 which we would give everything not to he a 1706 01:29:58,459 --> 01:30:01,269 part of, yet here we stand united in our strength and 1707 01:30:01,362 --> 01:30:06,505 determined to go on with our lives as best we can. 1708 01:30:06,601 --> 01:30:10,549 We were, the families of those we lost, 1709 01:30:10,638 --> 01:30:14,609 and the employees of the company in one instant, 1710 01:30:14,709 --> 01:30:16,416 we were all forced together in the most 1711 01:30:16,511 --> 01:30:20,823 unnatural of circumstances and today we proudly 1712 01:30:20,915 --> 01:30:22,826 gather, completely united as one. 1713 01:30:29,590 --> 01:30:33,663 This is, some of the larger bears. 1714 01:30:33,761 --> 01:30:36,901 We give out bears and beanies 1715 01:30:36,998 --> 01:30:39,501 and stuff at every possible occasion. 1716 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,046 Let's see, this is for a thirteen year old girl, 1717 01:30:42,136 --> 01:30:46,050 these were just a little bit too big to put into a bag. 1718 01:30:52,380 --> 01:30:54,121 Tonight this is a special night, 1719 01:30:54,215 --> 01:30:59,221 it's Cantor Fitzgerald night at the circus. 1720 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,129 Five "year old girl four year old boy! 1721 01:31:01,222 --> 01:31:03,668 Five "year old girl, four year old boy. 1722 01:31:03,758 --> 01:31:06,398 Gotta love it, thank you. 1723 01:31:06,494 --> 01:31:07,837 Thank you very much for all you're doing. 1724 01:31:07,929 --> 01:31:09,840 Oh, it's our pleasure... 1725 01:31:21,275 --> 01:31:25,121 How are you? 1726 01:31:25,213 --> 01:31:27,215 Thank you for being so nice! 1727 01:31:27,315 --> 01:31:33,322 My concern is to fight for those things that are 1728 01:31:33,421 --> 01:31:35,332 fundamentally important to the families. 1729 01:31:43,965 --> 01:31:50,211 Did I ever think that this would turn from emotional 1730 01:31:50,304 --> 01:31:54,480 and financial support for my families to political 1731 01:31:54,575 --> 01:31:58,523 advocacy on behalf of our families? 1732 01:31:58,613 --> 01:32:03,358 Uh, no. Never. 1733 01:32:03,451 --> 01:32:04,828 I'm Edie Lutnick I'm with Cantor Fitzgerald, 1734 01:32:04,919 --> 01:32:09,959 the Cantor Fitzgerald Relief Fund. 1735 01:32:10,057 --> 01:32:14,403 My phone rang off the hook today from family members 1736 01:32:14,495 --> 01:32:17,169 absolutely aghast at the concept of there being a 1737 01:32:17,265 --> 01:32:19,302 separate memorial for policemen and firemen who 1738 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:24,145 lost their lives and I am here predominantly because 1739 01:32:24,238 --> 01:32:27,048 so many family members requested that 1740 01:32:27,141 --> 01:32:28,245 I show up tonight and say that. 1741 01:32:28,342 --> 01:32:30,322 The families have asked consistently and 1742 01:32:30,411 --> 01:32:33,722 repeatedly and have not wavered from the fact that 1743 01:32:33,814 --> 01:32:38,024 they do not want any vehicular traffic running across the site. 1744 01:32:38,119 --> 01:32:40,725 None of you have vehicular traffic across your 1745 01:32:40,821 --> 01:32:43,062 loved ones' grave sites. 1746 01:32:43,157 --> 01:32:44,966 This is where they lost their lives, 1747 01:32:45,059 --> 01:32:47,767 this is where the remains were found. 1748 01:32:47,862 --> 01:32:50,172 To these family members, this is in fact sacred 1749 01:32:50,264 --> 01:32:53,473 ground, so don't make it a place that 1750 01:32:53,568 --> 01:32:55,479 these families do not want to come. 1751 01:32:58,573 --> 01:33:03,022 The premise that ground zero should he about 1752 01:33:03,110 --> 01:33:10,085 anything but 9/11 is so absurd. 1753 01:33:10,184 --> 01:33:15,156 This is America's 9/11 memorial. 1754 01:33:15,256 --> 01:33:18,169 What are we doing? 1755 01:33:31,973 --> 01:33:35,147 So what happens live years later, 1756 01:33:35,242 --> 01:33:41,193 you have become a community in the face of 1757 01:33:41,282 --> 01:33:45,628 insurmountable odds, it takes a broken heart to 1758 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:53,798 heal a broken heart and together we work to heal that heart. 1759 01:33:53,894 --> 01:33:57,000 Thank you all for being part of the Cantor family. 1760 01:33:57,098 --> 01:34:02,776 Somewhere over the last live years, things changed. 1761 01:34:02,870 --> 01:34:06,044 When I would go to the mothers' lunch, 1762 01:34:06,140 --> 01:34:08,950 to any of our gatherings, when I'd see a friend of 1763 01:34:09,043 --> 01:34:11,546 yours on the street, and they'd pat me on the 1764 01:34:11,646 --> 01:34:17,688 shoulder and say thank you, something changed. 1765 01:34:17,785 --> 01:34:22,894 You became the extraordinary team taking care of us. 1766 01:34:22,990 --> 01:34:24,901 And for that I am eternally grateful. 1767 01:34:29,897 --> 01:34:31,467 I don't think the Howard of today 1768 01:34:31,565 --> 01:34:35,274 is the same Howard of yesterday. 1769 01:34:35,369 --> 01:34:37,178 A hard-nosed businessman? 1770 01:34:37,271 --> 01:34:38,511 Yes. 1771 01:34:38,606 --> 01:34:41,018 But he had to deal with a lot of adversity, 1772 01:34:41,108 --> 01:34:43,884 and what he tried to do out of the adversity was 1773 01:34:43,978 --> 01:34:46,982 the best he could by the families, 1774 01:34:47,081 --> 01:34:49,186 so, what's the complaint? 1775 01:34:49,283 --> 01:34:52,492 He's done everything that he said he would do. 1776 01:34:52,586 --> 01:34:54,497 I don't have any complaints at all. 1777 01:35:08,102 --> 01:35:10,241 Where do I go? 1778 01:35:10,337 --> 01:35:11,873 That way? 1779 01:35:11,972 --> 01:35:14,248 Hi guys! 1780 01:35:14,341 --> 01:35:18,118 The original design was for the absence of 1781 01:35:18,212 --> 01:35:20,556 vertical structure that you wanted because you 1782 01:35:20,648 --> 01:35:22,628 were dealing, you were inverting the verticality 1783 01:35:22,717 --> 01:35:26,096 of the buildings into the void of the pools so the 1784 01:35:26,187 --> 01:35:28,895 waterfall became the downward motion rather 1785 01:35:28,989 --> 01:35:31,333 than the upward thrust of the buildings. 1786 01:35:31,425 --> 01:35:35,134 The design really demands, is that the water trickle 1787 01:35:35,229 --> 01:35:40,702 down both sides so it's to suggest tears. 1788 01:35:40,801 --> 01:35:42,007 So it's like this? 1789 01:35:42,103 --> 01:35:44,014 Just like this. 1790 01:35:49,844 --> 01:35:52,188 Mayor Bloomherg doesn't want to put the 1791 01:35:52,279 --> 01:35:54,953 floor, or the age, obviously our view would 1792 01:35:55,049 --> 01:35:56,653 be, we would have wanted more information about 1793 01:35:56,751 --> 01:36:00,289 each person to make them more human rather than 1794 01:36:00,387 --> 01:36:04,699 just a name as a name, you know, what, 1795 01:36:04,792 --> 01:36:07,534 who is Timothy O'Brien, you know? 1796 01:36:07,628 --> 01:36:09,505 Do you know how old he was? 1797 01:36:09,597 --> 01:36:12,771 Why the names aren't listed with age and why 1798 01:36:12,867 --> 01:36:19,307 they don't denote, uh, where they worked, 1799 01:36:19,406 --> 01:36:24,321 I can't understand, I don't know. 1800 01:36:34,889 --> 01:36:37,369 Listing these names as if they have no meaning 1801 01:36:37,458 --> 01:36:42,771 other than as a number is not appropriate. 1802 01:36:42,863 --> 01:36:46,242 Michael Arad's primary concern was that it look 1803 01:36:46,333 --> 01:36:49,041 nice, that it he aesthetically pleasing, 1804 01:36:49,136 --> 01:36:51,912 and there is nothing in the way that these names 1805 01:36:52,006 --> 01:36:55,180 are conveyed that tells you that one person was 1806 01:36:55,276 --> 01:36:57,085 different from another person. 1807 01:36:57,178 --> 01:37:00,523 It was like a flowing panel of names, 1808 01:37:00,614 --> 01:37:01,388 we didn't want that. 1809 01:37:01,482 --> 01:37:02,825 We wanted our stories. 1810 01:37:02,917 --> 01:37:05,397 So, what I'm doing is, I am attempting to arrange 1811 01:37:05,486 --> 01:37:08,228 the names in such a way so that the relationships, 1812 01:37:08,322 --> 01:37:12,998 the actual meaningful relationships between 1813 01:37:13,093 --> 01:37:14,663 these names is honored, that they're next to one 1814 01:37:14,762 --> 01:37:16,264 another, that they're adjacent. 1815 01:37:16,363 --> 01:37:20,209 It looks like nothing, it just looks like names laid 1816 01:37:20,301 --> 01:37:23,612 out but ill hit a button here, right, 1817 01:37:23,704 --> 01:37:28,210 these lines show up, these lines here represent relationships. 1818 01:37:28,309 --> 01:37:31,984 Brothers, brothers and sisters, cousins, family friends, 1819 01:37:32,079 --> 01:37:35,083 people who have been friends for 20 or 30 years. 1820 01:37:35,182 --> 01:37:37,958 This panel is incredibly interwoven, 1821 01:37:38,052 --> 01:37:42,592 you can kind of see this almost oats' cradle of relationships. 1822 01:37:42,690 --> 01:37:46,160 It was enormously important to the families, 1823 01:37:46,260 --> 01:37:50,003 when they point to their mother or their lather or 1824 01:37:50,097 --> 01:37:57,106 their child's name, that they will be able to know 1825 01:37:57,204 --> 01:38:00,310 that that name is carefully placed and that 1826 01:38:00,407 --> 01:38:04,412 everyone who surrounds that person's name 1827 01:38:04,511 --> 01:38:09,153 mattered to their loved one. 1828 01:38:09,250 --> 01:38:12,129 The city's mandate was that they should appear 1829 01:38:12,219 --> 01:38:16,690 random; the city doesn't want the wall to tell a story. 1830 01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:20,363 Each one of these panels, it tells a story. 1831 01:38:20,461 --> 01:38:23,032 We've actually kind of defeated what was the end game. 1832 01:38:23,130 --> 01:38:25,337 We haven't told one story, we've told hundreds of 1833 01:38:25,432 --> 01:38:28,106 stories, right, so these names" each one of these 1834 01:38:28,202 --> 01:38:31,115 panels is many, many stories. 1835 01:38:40,915 --> 01:38:43,088 Danny comes down to the bottom line, 1836 01:38:43,183 --> 01:38:48,183 Joe goes oven... 1837 01:39:14,248 --> 01:39:17,058 it must he a nightmare that we will awaken from. 1838 01:39:17,151 --> 01:39:18,858 That someone will come and I'll wake up and they'll 1839 01:39:18,953 --> 01:39:21,399 all be standing over me and I'll he like 'boy, 1840 01:39:21,488 --> 01:39:24,196 that was some hump on the head' but I know when that 1841 01:39:24,291 --> 01:39:29,434 day will he, its not yet but when I die they'll all he 1842 01:39:29,530 --> 01:39:32,443 there and they'll say that was one heck of a dream wasn't it? 1843 01:39:35,269 --> 01:39:38,307 ...Edward L. Allegretto, 1844 01:39:38,405 --> 01:39:41,716 Joseph R. Allen, 1845 01:39:41,809 --> 01:39:49,990 Jane Ellen Eisler, Paul Barbara, 1846 01:39:50,084 --> 01:39:56,160 Mathew Burke, Thomas Burke, 1847 01:39:56,256 --> 01:40:02,537 Mark J. Colaio, Steven J. Colaio... 1848 01:40:02,629 --> 01:40:03,903 When I hear people talking about how they're 1849 01:40:03,998 --> 01:40:06,171 going on vacation with their family or even if 1850 01:40:06,266 --> 01:40:09,577 they're just going over to their brother's house for 1851 01:40:09,670 --> 01:40:14,312 the night, I don't show it at all but inside 1852 01:40:14,408 --> 01:40:18,550 something happens, my stomach, uh, 1853 01:40:18,645 --> 01:40:22,525 right away I just go there for a second like, 1854 01:40:22,616 --> 01:40:25,859 oh my God that used to he me. 1855 01:40:25,953 --> 01:40:28,934 Joann Cregan, 1856 01:40:29,023 --> 01:40:35,133 Helen. P. Crawson, Denis Edwards, 1857 01:40:35,229 --> 01:40:39,006 Lisa Egan, Samantha Egan... 1858 01:40:39,099 --> 01:40:43,844 Denial will never, ever leave you, 1859 01:40:43,937 --> 01:40:46,315 if you are directly affected by this. 1860 01:40:46,407 --> 01:40:48,353 It will never leave you because you will always in 1861 01:40:48,442 --> 01:40:51,184 the course of the day think that this could not 1862 01:40:51,278 --> 01:40:53,053 have happened. 1863 01:40:53,147 --> 01:40:55,684 This is not real, this could not have happened. 1864 01:40:55,783 --> 01:41:04,396 John Grazioso, Timmy Grazioso, Robert Hobson, 1865 01:41:04,491 --> 01:41:08,496 Marsha Hellman, Steven G. Hellman... 1866 01:41:08,595 --> 01:41:10,199 Part of me died that day. 1867 01:41:10,297 --> 01:41:12,038 And part of him lives with me, 1868 01:41:12,132 --> 01:41:13,668 and I have to honor that. 1869 01:41:13,767 --> 01:41:14,837 And I don't know... 1870 01:41:14,935 --> 01:41:18,314 it's kinda like, so now I kinda have to interwine 1871 01:41:18,405 --> 01:41:21,284 the two of us in me in one reality and 1872 01:41:21,375 --> 01:41:26,290 that's not so easy sometimes, that's the trick. 1873 01:41:26,380 --> 01:41:30,385 Michael P. Laport, 1874 01:41:30,484 --> 01:41:34,125 Steven LaManchia, 1875 01:41:34,221 --> 01:41:37,862 Rosanne P. Lang... 1876 01:41:37,958 --> 01:41:41,428 This is always going to he public, 1877 01:41:41,528 --> 01:41:43,599 for the rest of our lives. 1878 01:41:43,697 --> 01:41:45,472 Every September 11th we're going to be reminded of 1879 01:41:45,566 --> 01:41:47,568 this and unfortunately our children and our 1880 01:41:47,668 --> 01:41:52,708 grandchildren are part of history that we never 1881 01:41:52,806 --> 01:41:55,719 intended them to be a part of. 1882 01:41:55,809 --> 01:42:03,819 Gary Lutnick, Michael Edward McHugh Jr., 1883 01:42:03,917 --> 01:42:12,530 John Armand Rea, Daniel Shea and Joseph Shea, 1884 01:42:12,626 --> 01:42:17,837 David Silver, Kenneth A. Simon, 1885 01:42:17,931 --> 01:42:23,142 Sushil Selenki, Rubin Solaris, 1886 01:42:23,237 --> 01:42:31,952 Anthony Tempesto, Stanley Temple, Karl Valvo, 1887 01:42:32,045 --> 01:42:35,288 Kenneth W. VanArkin, 1888 01:42:35,382 --> 01:42:39,296 Adam S. White, James White... 1889 01:42:42,823 --> 01:42:45,736 Douglas B. Gardner... 1890 01:42:57,371 --> 01:43:03,322 Hi.. Michael, today is September 11, 2001, what is today? 1891 01:43:03,410 --> 01:43:04,252 Do you know Michael? 1892 01:43:04,344 --> 01:43:06,346 My first day of school. 1893 01:43:06,446 --> 01:43:07,720 Are you excited to go to school? 1894 01:43:07,814 --> 01:43:09,555 Yeah! 1895 01:43:09,650 --> 01:43:11,027 Yeah, I am. 1896 01:43:11,118 --> 01:43:14,031 What is your teacher's name? 1897 01:43:21,762 --> 01:43:24,504 Hi Julia, and when do you start school? 1898 01:43:24,598 --> 01:43:25,702 Tomorrow? 1899 01:43:25,799 --> 01:43:27,005 Tomorrow. 1900 01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:30,877 And you know who else is teaching? 1901 01:43:30,971 --> 01:43:33,918 Michael, someone who taught "you first "year. 1902 01:43:34,007 --> 01:43:35,509 Zed! 1903 01:43:35,609 --> 01:43:39,523 You know who Zed is, Julia? 1904 01:43:39,613 --> 01:43:44,460 You know who Zed is, Michael? 1905 01:43:44,551 --> 01:43:48,055 Danielle! Danielle! You're recording the ground. 1906 01:43:48,155 --> 01:43:49,759 [laughs] And then we're going to go down these stairs, 1907 01:43:49,856 --> 01:43:50,834 so he careful. 1908 01:43:50,924 --> 01:43:52,494 I'm not gonna break my neck. 1909 01:43:52,593 --> 01:43:57,064 No, this is a good place to go- [laughing] there you go. 1910 01:43:57,164 --> 01:43:59,371 Danielle, do you think I need a shave? 1911 01:43:59,466 --> 01:44:00,604 I can't see. 1912 01:44:00,701 --> 01:44:02,044 What do you mean you can't see? 1913 01:44:02,135 --> 01:44:03,273 I can't tell. 1914 01:44:03,370 --> 01:44:04,713 Now I'm going to zoom on your chin, 1915 01:44:04,805 --> 01:44:05,875 and see if you need a shave. 1916 01:44:05,973 --> 01:44:07,646 Oh, yeah, now I can see it. You need a shave. 1917 01:44:07,741 --> 01:44:11,154 Oh, ok. [laughing] 1918 01:44:11,245 --> 01:44:12,417 We have to go up and look at the ocean, 1919 01:44:12,512 --> 01:44:14,082 and the beach. 1920 01:44:14,181 --> 01:44:18,186 This will he very boring to watch. It'll he very, very boring to watch. 1921 01:44:18,285 --> 01:44:20,094 In ten years' time it won't be so boring. though! 1922 01:44:20,187 --> 01:44:21,666 That's right, that's correct. 1923 01:44:21,755 --> 01:44:23,860 Sort of a nice day, as you can see it's cloudy. 1924 01:44:23,957 --> 01:44:25,163 We'll do this again so next week, 1925 01:44:25,259 --> 01:44:27,569 when it's less cloudy. 1926 01:44:27,661 --> 01:44:32,576 Come on! 1927 01:44:33,533 --> 01:44:33,601 ♪♪150506

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