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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,333 --> 00:00:04,166 so yeah 2 00:00:04,366 --> 00:00:06,266 because which word did not come out yet 3 00:00:06,266 --> 00:00:09,800 which word actually came out while we were shooting 4 00:00:09,933 --> 00:00:10,666 neither the demon 5 00:00:10,666 --> 00:00:13,466 so we did not know yet that we had a hit on our hands 6 00:00:13,466 --> 00:00:16,566 with which board I probably could have got more but now 7 00:00:18,700 --> 00:00:20,533 and when they are from our panel last night 8 00:00:20,533 --> 00:00:21,733 you had a little bit of hesitation 9 00:00:21,733 --> 00:00:22,766 when you first read the script 10 00:00:22,766 --> 00:00:24,800 as well or was it even before you read the script 11 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,733 it wasn't before 12 00:00:25,733 --> 00:00:28,766 I was scared to go in because I thought they reject me 13 00:00:28,766 --> 00:00:30,933 because I was like 25 at the time 14 00:00:30,933 --> 00:00:34,133 and all the kids were supposed to be teenagers 15 00:00:34,133 --> 00:00:35,800 and so I kept saying to my manager 16 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,266 I wasn't gonna go in cause I didn't want them to say oh 17 00:00:38,266 --> 00:00:40,600 you're too old for it and so I just kept saying no 18 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,933 I'm not gonna go in it's oh 19 00:00:41,933 --> 00:00:43,400 you really wanna see you oh no 20 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,333 I'm not gonna go in so 21 00:00:44,333 --> 00:00:47,066 it was just the luck that I got to work with having 22 00:00:47,066 --> 00:00:47,866 Tenny 23 00:00:49,300 --> 00:00:51,300 actually needs a watch 24 00:00:54,700 --> 00:00:57,166 be able to claim that they're my No. 1 fan 25 00:00:59,466 --> 00:01:02,666 just throwing it out there just a suggestion 26 00:01:04,066 --> 00:01:06,733 so you read it back when it was called Halloween Party 27 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:08,766 yes was there a huge amount of 28 00:01:08,766 --> 00:01:10,166 change from the original script 29 00:01:10,166 --> 00:01:11,966 into what was shot well 30 00:01:11,966 --> 00:01:15,633 we totally lost the scene with the aircraft carrier and 31 00:01:17,566 --> 00:01:19,866 otherwise it's pretty close to the original script 32 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:22,533 we had some crane shots in it though 33 00:01:22,533 --> 00:01:24,633 yeah we did actually 34 00:01:24,666 --> 00:01:27,600 there wasn't this the script I read now 35 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,500 if you if you read interviews with Joe Gusson 36 00:01:30,866 --> 00:01:33,400 his original draft was drastically different 37 00:01:33,466 --> 00:01:35,100 but they went through a lot of changes 38 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:36,600 before I came on board 39 00:01:37,333 --> 00:01:39,200 uh the biggest changes 40 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:41,300 the ones that I affected were 41 00:01:41,300 --> 00:01:42,700 there was an opening 42 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:45,400 where a priest spoke directly to the audience 43 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,166 and blessed them all 44 00:01:46,166 --> 00:01:48,000 so they wouldn't get possessed while watching 45 00:01:49,266 --> 00:01:50,533 and I told Joe I said 46 00:01:50,533 --> 00:01:54,900 that might be a little too corny to start our film with 47 00:01:54,900 --> 00:01:56,400 so just said screw it 48 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,866 and didn't we cut that 49 00:01:57,866 --> 00:02:02,066 and then the only other things for me were in passing 50 00:02:02,066 --> 00:02:03,566 when we were talking about the script 51 00:02:03,566 --> 00:02:05,566 he said something about the house being possessed 52 00:02:05,566 --> 00:02:07,600 instead of haunted 53 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:09,500 but there wasn't really addressed in the script 54 00:02:09,500 --> 00:02:10,000 and I said well 55 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,100 that's great that's actually the hook right there 56 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:12,866 that's what we're 57 00:02:12,866 --> 00:02:15,700 that's what makes this special is it's not ghost 58 00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:18,500 it's demons and so I had him 59 00:02:18,500 --> 00:02:20,666 I said right about that 60 00:02:20,666 --> 00:02:23,800 so then that's what he gave Angela her 61 00:02:23,900 --> 00:02:24,700 her whole 62 00:02:25,866 --> 00:02:29,133 this is a house that's been possessed and not haunted 63 00:02:29,133 --> 00:02:29,700 and yada yada 64 00:02:29,700 --> 00:02:30,500 yada because 65 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:30,766 I thought 66 00:02:30,766 --> 00:02:33,066 that would be an interesting hug for the audience 67 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:35,200 and then the only other thing was Judy 68 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:35,733 the heroine 69 00:02:35,733 --> 00:02:38,500 was originally dressed like Little Red Riding Hood 70 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,966 and I thought we're doing a film about demons 71 00:02:41,966 --> 00:02:43,333 you really don't want her running around in a 72 00:02:43,333 --> 00:02:47,600 big red cloak and I said into there were 73 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,100 logic problems with the script in that you know 74 00:02:53,133 --> 00:02:54,600 the door can lock itself 75 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,066 and then it can't unlock itself 76 00:02:56,066 --> 00:02:57,800 but it can make its counter pins fall out 77 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,266 so that it will fall off 78 00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:02,300 so I thought if we address these logically 79 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:03,700 we kill the momentum 80 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:06,766 and so many of these sequences were great sequences 81 00:03:06,933 --> 00:03:09,300 but you just had to not worried 82 00:03:09,300 --> 00:03:10,066 get bogged down in 83 00:03:10,066 --> 00:03:11,166 the fact that they didn't make sense 84 00:03:11,166 --> 00:03:11,700 so I thought well 85 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:13,200 let's dress her like Alice in Wonderland 86 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,200 that gets her out of red 87 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,133 which has demonic connotations 88 00:03:16,133 --> 00:03:18,900 and then subconsciously we're saying hey 89 00:03:18,933 --> 00:03:21,366 the house is Wonderland is just fucking with her 90 00:03:23,266 --> 00:03:25,600 and once I told that to the crew 91 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,933 they actually took her point at the art department 92 00:03:27,933 --> 00:03:30,300 in the scene where they're in the embalming room 93 00:03:30,666 --> 00:03:31,866 and all the bottles are there 94 00:03:31,866 --> 00:03:32,933 you can't see it on film 95 00:03:32,933 --> 00:03:35,433 but one of they had a little bottle there said drink me 96 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:42,300 I think Amelia just showed up so let's get a warm run 97 00:03:51,333 --> 00:03:53,566 if she clicks them three times 98 00:03:53,566 --> 00:03:55,200 she'll be back in Hell House 99 00:03:57,700 --> 00:04:02,666 no it's as far as like I I know that you are a little 100 00:04:02,933 --> 00:04:04,200 you know I'm not sure if I'm gonna do this 101 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,466 a lot of tools for it 102 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:07,466 did any of you know each other before this 103 00:04:07,466 --> 00:04:09,966 or had seen each other's work no 104 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:10,900 no actually 105 00:04:10,900 --> 00:04:15,433 I was not a horror fan at this time so Joe knew 106 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,566 Joe was 107 00:04:18,100 --> 00:04:19,233 I know 108 00:04:25,333 --> 00:04:26,133 yes 109 00:04:29,866 --> 00:04:32,700 okay so she knew you and 110 00:04:33,966 --> 00:04:35,900 and I just she came in red and I liked her 111 00:04:35,900 --> 00:04:37,300 but I didn't know who she was 112 00:04:37,300 --> 00:04:37,966 the funny thing was 113 00:04:37,966 --> 00:04:39,500 I knew somebody had worked with her 114 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:41,066 and he told me a story about her 115 00:04:41,066 --> 00:04:41,733 but could not 116 00:04:41,733 --> 00:04:43,566 I didn't know who she was when he told me the story 117 00:04:43,566 --> 00:04:44,866 so when still after we were here 118 00:04:44,866 --> 00:04:45,600 so oh 119 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,633 this is the gal that he was talking about 120 00:04:47,766 --> 00:04:49,133 it was a good story oh my God 121 00:04:49,133 --> 00:04:50,366 like what story like 122 00:04:50,366 --> 00:04:51,000 oh my God 123 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,466 now I've got this bitch and I can't do anything with it 124 00:04:55,133 --> 00:04:55,933 that was a good story but 125 00:04:55,933 --> 00:04:56,600 it was funny that 126 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,566 I made the connection about halfway through the film 127 00:04:58,566 --> 00:05:00,833 oh my God this is the guy he was talking about 128 00:05:00,966 --> 00:05:03,033 and Joe was also like a big 129 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:06,300 MTV fan so 130 00:05:06,300 --> 00:05:07,600 he knew who Amelia was 131 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,600 from the video she did for the Stray Cats 132 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,266 sexy and 17 so I didn't know who either of them were 133 00:05:14,266 --> 00:05:16,600 but they came in red they did a really nice job 134 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:19,466 and so we cast them don't worry 135 00:05:19,466 --> 00:05:20,700 we didn't know who he was 136 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:21,566 that's right I yeah 137 00:05:21,566 --> 00:05:22,866 which one did not come out yet 138 00:05:22,866 --> 00:05:25,666 so I was the unknown commodity as well 139 00:05:25,900 --> 00:05:27,366 that's right that's right 140 00:05:27,366 --> 00:05:28,300 yeah Amelia did 141 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:31,100 were you a horror fan before you came into the demon 142 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:31,366 you know 143 00:05:31,366 --> 00:05:34,833 this is a question that cannot be answered in this room 144 00:05:36,966 --> 00:05:40,733 I know I know he just did I um 145 00:05:40,733 --> 00:05:43,133 I wanted to work with Steve Johnson 146 00:05:43,133 --> 00:05:46,566 who had just won an Oscar for Ghostbusters 147 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:47,700 I thought this 148 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:50,466 special effects were gonna be incredibly fun 149 00:05:51,100 --> 00:05:52,300 little did you know 150 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,266 27 hours as a state is not fun 151 00:05:59,333 --> 00:06:02,400 glued to a tater totter strapped in a trench 152 00:06:02,966 --> 00:06:06,800 no it wasn't fun fun for us just watching 153 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,566 oh yeah 154 00:06:09,133 --> 00:06:12,733 no so I wasn't a fan of special effects 155 00:06:12,733 --> 00:06:14,733 because I was fascinated by it 156 00:06:14,733 --> 00:06:16,900 I think it's a very interesting art form 157 00:06:18,266 --> 00:06:21,600 now all of you together how is how's pre production 158 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,733 was it a long pre production 159 00:06:22,733 --> 00:06:24,666 was it very short was there pre production 160 00:06:24,666 --> 00:06:28,633 yeah there was actually by pure luck 161 00:06:28,933 --> 00:06:32,300 we found the house early and because of that 162 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,966 whenever there was not something going on 163 00:06:34,966 --> 00:06:36,500 the office where we were casting 164 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:38,600 or I was dealing with script notes 165 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,866 I would hop in my car 166 00:06:39,866 --> 00:06:41,333 and I would drive over to the house 167 00:06:41,333 --> 00:06:43,866 and I would walk through it with a viewfinder 168 00:06:43,866 --> 00:06:44,866 that tells you you know 169 00:06:44,866 --> 00:06:47,100 you can actually adjust it like a lens 170 00:06:47,133 --> 00:06:50,666 like a zoom lens so of all the films I've ever shot 171 00:06:50,666 --> 00:06:54,333 that was probably the one I was best prepared for 172 00:06:54,333 --> 00:06:55,666 and I think it shows I mean 173 00:06:55,666 --> 00:06:56,733 cause you you know every 174 00:06:56,733 --> 00:06:56,933 so 175 00:06:56,933 --> 00:06:59,200 I knew not only how I was gonna wanna shoot the film 176 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,066 but I knew what lenses I was gonna wanna use each shot 177 00:07:02,066 --> 00:07:04,166 so when we got there I could just say 178 00:07:04,266 --> 00:07:05,500 you know throwing an 80 179 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:07,600 throwing a 200 whatever 180 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,633 um and one of the decisions I made early was to 181 00:07:11,933 --> 00:07:13,533 in order for the environment of the house 182 00:07:13,533 --> 00:07:15,800 to be drastically different from everything else 183 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,000 that was shot in the film 184 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,700 I used all long lenses when they were not in the house 185 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:23,000 like a Judy's house or out on the road 186 00:07:23,466 --> 00:07:25,600 because that flattens the background 187 00:07:25,766 --> 00:07:28,400 and then in the house I didn't shoot with anything less 188 00:07:28,666 --> 00:07:31,000 the 25 was the longest lens I used 189 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,900 I think I use the 35 for a couple shots 190 00:07:32,900 --> 00:07:34,100 I had to use with 35 191 00:07:34,100 --> 00:07:38,466 25 or a 9 in so that even in a room like from 192 00:07:38,466 --> 00:07:40,000 if you were 3 feet from that wall 193 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,900 it still look like you were in the hallway 194 00:07:42,100 --> 00:07:43,966 the wall would be so far behind you 195 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,866 that was just so that the house would be creepier 196 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:50,066 and everybody thinks it's easy being a director 197 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:54,066 now is actors did you have an opportunity to 198 00:07:54,066 --> 00:07:55,900 to rehearse a lot together 199 00:07:55,900 --> 00:07:57,300 or was that not really a part of 200 00:07:57,300 --> 00:07:59,900 of the the pre production for you 201 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:03,233 not a lot of rehearsal I don't remember 202 00:08:03,333 --> 00:08:05,800 we may have done a week honestly 203 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,300 about half of my answer is coming out of my ass 204 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:16,600 25 years ago I certainly will say 205 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,300 for the pre production and rehearsal 206 00:08:20,366 --> 00:08:23,033 I've never been on a panel with these two people 207 00:08:23,066 --> 00:08:25,500 this is a little bit we're making history here 208 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:27,600 so I get to talk about them 209 00:08:27,666 --> 00:08:27,900 and 210 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:30,733 you can hear stories that you have never heard before 211 00:08:30,733 --> 00:08:33,800 that's right but there were things that Kevin 212 00:08:36,333 --> 00:08:39,700 Kevin improvised at the last minute 213 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:43,400 some shots that became history 214 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,700 I mean really movie making history 215 00:08:45,933 --> 00:08:48,033 some of those things were not pre planned 216 00:08:48,066 --> 00:08:49,933 the shot with the broken mirror 217 00:08:49,933 --> 00:08:51,633 and all of us looking into it 218 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,500 putting me on roller skates 219 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:57,066 to make me float down the hallway 220 00:08:57,100 --> 00:08:59,133 none of these things were thought through in advance 221 00:08:59,133 --> 00:09:00,300 I mean there was one scene 222 00:09:00,300 --> 00:09:03,666 where Steve Johnson is smoking cigarettes 223 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:05,900 blowing them up my skirt 224 00:09:07,333 --> 00:09:10,633 is coming out in little tubes out of my fingers 225 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,100 and while I have you here 226 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:14,566 because I recently 227 00:09:14,566 --> 00:09:17,933 we got to see the Blu ray screening in Hollywood 228 00:09:17,933 --> 00:09:19,700 were sold out oh yeah 229 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:21,066 you weren't there right now 230 00:09:21,766 --> 00:09:24,466 but what we had in the script was 231 00:09:24,466 --> 00:09:26,700 and now she's possessed 232 00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:29,133 and you look at it and go okay 233 00:09:29,133 --> 00:09:30,366 what does that mean you know 234 00:09:30,366 --> 00:09:33,000 as an actor what does that mean 235 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:38,033 and Linnea you were so good 236 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,766 she kind of set the bar for the other actors to follow 237 00:09:41,766 --> 00:09:44,066 that's what I will be when we're possessed 238 00:09:44,666 --> 00:09:45,466 I 239 00:09:48,566 --> 00:09:49,600 mean you're such 240 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,600 it's such I gave them excellent direction 241 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,866 like don't fuck up 242 00:10:05,900 --> 00:10:06,800 you know that's true 243 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,400 she choreographed her own dance 244 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,333 and she also improvised a lot while she was dancing 245 00:10:11,333 --> 00:10:12,733 and I knew she was gonna do this 246 00:10:12,733 --> 00:10:15,133 and I knew I wanted to get some great shots of it 247 00:10:15,133 --> 00:10:17,200 so Dave Lewis and I the DP 248 00:10:17,533 --> 00:10:18,700 we actually got 249 00:10:18,766 --> 00:10:21,866 a remote camera that usually only use for rock videos 250 00:10:21,866 --> 00:10:24,700 at that time that was on a dolly 251 00:10:24,733 --> 00:10:25,866 and then a gibb arm 252 00:10:25,866 --> 00:10:27,700 that we control from the other room 253 00:10:27,700 --> 00:10:29,066 so we didn't have to be in the room 254 00:10:29,066 --> 00:10:30,600 and the camera could just follow her 255 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,066 so when she's laying on the floor popping up 256 00:10:33,066 --> 00:10:35,600 we just basically let her do what she was doing 257 00:10:35,733 --> 00:10:37,333 and we end up getting great shots 258 00:10:37,333 --> 00:10:38,600 because she would fall down on the floor 259 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,266 and then we would drop down with her 260 00:10:40,366 --> 00:10:42,800 and I think we did like you did it twice 261 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,200 we did two takes and then I just 262 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,366 and then I just cut the one 263 00:10:45,366 --> 00:10:48,733 pieces from each shot that I like the best together to 264 00:10:48,733 --> 00:10:52,500 uh do the dance and it worked out amazing yeah 265 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:53,866 and there's no CGI in there 266 00:10:53,866 --> 00:10:55,366 it's like the strobe lights were going 267 00:10:55,366 --> 00:10:57,400 there was no such thing as CGI no 268 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,200 we didn't know what it was yeah 269 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,633 we didn't know what it was in demons too 270 00:11:04,366 --> 00:11:08,333 they said and now you're gonna throw a fireball okay 271 00:11:08,333 --> 00:11:11,833 well who's gonna set my hand on fire 272 00:11:11,933 --> 00:11:15,933 CGI I said what's that actually 273 00:11:15,933 --> 00:11:17,700 was it CGI or just optical 274 00:11:18,533 --> 00:11:22,000 optical I don't think CGI even exists that yeah 275 00:11:22,533 --> 00:11:24,200 optical was they have to do it 276 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,533 they would have to like get a pen light 277 00:11:26,533 --> 00:11:29,300 and it would have to be done like animation 278 00:11:31,533 --> 00:11:33,300 you would have just set me off yeah 279 00:11:35,133 --> 00:11:36,366 I would give you a tumble 280 00:11:36,366 --> 00:11:38,633 we lit it on fire say throw the fucker 281 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,600 don't miss me and the camera 282 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,066 anything else fair game oh my God 283 00:11:48,366 --> 00:11:49,666 I'm just gonna comment very funny 284 00:11:49,666 --> 00:11:52,266 we have two ladies who've had two very iconic dances 285 00:11:52,266 --> 00:11:53,600 and horror between 286 00:11:58,733 --> 00:11:59,533 and 287 00:12:02,766 --> 00:12:05,233 I dance on my ex girlfriend's grave so 288 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:15,266 I remember quickly go to cameo in this one 289 00:12:15,266 --> 00:12:17,200 so technically all of you acted in this film 290 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:17,933 that's right yes 291 00:12:17,933 --> 00:12:18,533 I'm I'm 292 00:12:18,533 --> 00:12:21,933 I have the riveting role of guy shopping for milk 293 00:12:21,933 --> 00:12:22,966 in the back of the 294 00:12:24,933 --> 00:12:26,833 obviously you all remember that 295 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,633 yeah remember it 296 00:12:29,366 --> 00:12:31,200 he was acting because if it was real life 297 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,900 he would have been shopping for real 298 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,766 and I think Joe Agustin the writer 299 00:12:37,766 --> 00:12:41,033 producer was off to the left checking out the chips 300 00:12:44,566 --> 00:12:45,066 now was that 301 00:12:45,066 --> 00:12:46,733 that was something that was shot 302 00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:49,366 and an actual convenience store in LA yes 303 00:12:49,366 --> 00:12:51,200 were there any you know 304 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,733 there were any uh you know 305 00:12:52,733 --> 00:12:54,766 just regular I was a human extras 306 00:12:54,766 --> 00:12:55,533 any just regular 307 00:12:55,533 --> 00:12:56,333 civilian extras 308 00:12:56,333 --> 00:12:58,300 that were a little taken aback by what was going on 309 00:12:58,300 --> 00:12:59,100 no no 310 00:12:59,100 --> 00:13:01,066 you you when you you rent the store 311 00:13:01,066 --> 00:13:01,933 even though it's a real store 312 00:13:01,933 --> 00:13:04,066 you rent it and then you control it 313 00:13:04,066 --> 00:13:04,866 so everyone 314 00:13:04,866 --> 00:13:07,300 all the extras in the store actually crew people 315 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,600 does anyone who wasn't actually working 316 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,800 while we were doing that shot 317 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,266 got pulled into being the 318 00:13:12,266 --> 00:13:14,066 being extra in the scene well 319 00:13:14,066 --> 00:13:15,400 we had a lot of security 320 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,533 because we were not shooting in a great place 321 00:13:17,533 --> 00:13:19,166 no we were shooting in lots 322 00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:19,966 yeah 323 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,933 the corner or was it the corner of Adams and Vermont 324 00:13:25,933 --> 00:13:27,233 which is you know 325 00:13:27,466 --> 00:13:28,833 not the great area 326 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:31,100 so we had very heavy security 327 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:33,266 will shoot at night and you know 328 00:13:33,266 --> 00:13:34,333 and of course 329 00:13:34,333 --> 00:13:36,900 we had to retake a lot of the dialogue scenes 330 00:13:36,900 --> 00:13:39,433 because it machine gun fire yeah 331 00:13:41,066 --> 00:13:43,066 but a lot of people want to have that house 332 00:13:43,066 --> 00:13:44,366 that when I talk to people 333 00:13:44,366 --> 00:13:44,666 they like 334 00:13:44,666 --> 00:13:47,900 I'd love to have that house as my house to live in 335 00:13:47,933 --> 00:13:49,100 it was tragic that it got 336 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:52,133 you got torn down those were really gorgeous 337 00:13:52,133 --> 00:13:53,300 yeah Hollywood 338 00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:55,500 historic homes and it was huge 339 00:13:55,500 --> 00:13:57,066 it was actually two buildings 340 00:13:57,066 --> 00:13:59,100 with a porch that join them 341 00:13:59,666 --> 00:14:01,200 so it was like a gigantic 342 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,266 took up like a whole corner lot 343 00:14:03,533 --> 00:14:07,000 so it was huge back in the day of old Hollywood 344 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,766 that was a nice part of town 345 00:14:08,766 --> 00:14:09,866 yeah well 346 00:14:10,966 --> 00:14:13,466 Charlie Chaplin and the old movie stars 347 00:14:13,733 --> 00:14:16,000 and though it was a beautiful home 348 00:14:18,366 --> 00:14:19,966 if we could start with Amelia 349 00:14:19,966 --> 00:14:22,166 out of curiosity is there one part of this film 350 00:14:22,166 --> 00:14:24,400 that was just the absolute hardest for you to film 351 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,833 and you just felt like I just don't wanna do this 352 00:14:31,533 --> 00:14:32,600 don't worry it's coming to you too 353 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:33,600 Kevin and 354 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:40,433 taking the prosthetics off took an hour and a half 355 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,500 getting them on took five or six hours 356 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:46,866 and it only took a few nights of that 357 00:14:46,866 --> 00:14:49,366 before I was really not having fun 358 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,333 at one point I remember the makeup people saying 359 00:14:54,333 --> 00:14:56,700 we have to send her home 360 00:14:56,966 --> 00:15:01,133 because she has bleeding wounds in her face 361 00:15:01,133 --> 00:15:04,766 oh we can't make up over bleeding 362 00:15:04,766 --> 00:15:08,233 gaping wounds Oscar winner my ass 363 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,533 the stuff coming off is so glued on 364 00:15:15,533 --> 00:15:16,800 it's just you know 365 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,633 I mean it's tough on the guys 366 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,366 but the women who have these 367 00:15:20,366 --> 00:15:23,433 you know beautiful Alabaster faces 368 00:15:23,966 --> 00:15:24,966 well you know 369 00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:27,666 one night I think how was in tears 370 00:15:27,933 --> 00:15:29,766 can I sleep in it yeah 371 00:15:36,166 --> 00:15:40,366 so did I dread any scenes in demons one 372 00:15:42,466 --> 00:15:43,533 no no 373 00:15:43,533 --> 00:15:45,466 I have to say no and No. 2 374 00:15:45,466 --> 00:15:48,666 I got to shag Darren to death which was a good time 375 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:04,266 and demons to the snake makeup was hard 376 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,733 it was hard and it was intense 377 00:16:06,733 --> 00:16:08,566 if you haven't seen demons to yet they 378 00:16:08,566 --> 00:16:10,800 they turned me into Kermit the frog 379 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:16,300 but I'm a 30 foot snake and all practical all 380 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:17,266 but no CGI 381 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,300 and in retrospect 382 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:25,366 I can say that if I hadn't been a professional dancer 383 00:16:25,366 --> 00:16:26,433 I couldn't have done that 384 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,466 when I was growing up 385 00:16:28,466 --> 00:16:30,600 we take off our pointe shoes and pour the blood out 386 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,166 put them back on finish the Nutcracker rehearsal 387 00:16:34,166 --> 00:16:36,233 that's what it meant to be a ballerina 388 00:16:36,300 --> 00:16:38,766 that's what it still means to be a ballerina 389 00:16:39,066 --> 00:16:41,666 and you couldn't throw up your hands and say ouch 390 00:16:41,666 --> 00:16:43,866 my face hurts and my fangs are bleeding 391 00:16:43,866 --> 00:16:45,600 will you take the shit off my face 392 00:16:46,700 --> 00:16:48,833 you just soldier through it 393 00:16:49,566 --> 00:16:50,833 and um 394 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:55,600 also the name because you also got to dance in a film 395 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,766 this was at a time 396 00:16:56,766 --> 00:16:59,766 I hit Hollywood right after flash dance 397 00:17:00,066 --> 00:17:02,833 so Marie Johan was the 398 00:17:03,166 --> 00:17:06,166 the person who got to do the dancing and flash dance 399 00:17:06,366 --> 00:17:09,066 and one of my partners Peter Tram 400 00:17:09,066 --> 00:17:12,466 was the one who did the dancing and footloose 401 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,433 and then they had another double to do the gymnastics 402 00:17:16,733 --> 00:17:20,766 so it was a world where you were an actor or a dancer 403 00:17:20,766 --> 00:17:22,866 you couldn't really be both 404 00:17:23,066 --> 00:17:26,866 and we both got to be both in movies 405 00:17:26,866 --> 00:17:28,433 and not get doubled 406 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:31,500 and I got in choreograph our own dances 407 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:33,700 and that was pretty darn fabulous 408 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:35,300 that's true that's true 409 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:39,300 yeah I got to be a director and a sex symbol 410 00:17:41,066 --> 00:17:43,166 to this day to this day 411 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,700 and remains forever humble 412 00:17:49,766 --> 00:17:50,766 Kevin for you same 413 00:17:50,766 --> 00:17:51,766 same question I mean 414 00:17:51,766 --> 00:17:53,566 is there any time that you were like screw 415 00:17:53,566 --> 00:17:54,766 I'm done I'm done with this 416 00:17:54,766 --> 00:17:56,300 or did you have a good time all the way 417 00:17:56,300 --> 00:17:56,966 no actually 418 00:17:56,966 --> 00:17:59,300 I had a pretty good time I just done Ouija board 419 00:17:59,300 --> 00:18:02,866 which was a much more serious horror filming 420 00:18:02,866 --> 00:18:04,066 and when you're doing the scenes 421 00:18:04,066 --> 00:18:05,466 where the characters have to cry 422 00:18:05,466 --> 00:18:07,700 and have all these emotional moments 423 00:18:07,766 --> 00:18:10,300 the crew has to be quiet you have to give them 424 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:13,066 the actors time to get to a dark place 425 00:18:13,066 --> 00:18:15,966 using whatever techniques they use to get there 426 00:18:15,966 --> 00:18:17,400 and then you have to shoot the scene 427 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,733 and whether it's going well or badly 428 00:18:19,733 --> 00:18:20,966 you can't say that was great 429 00:18:20,966 --> 00:18:22,300 now let's go for another or oh 430 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:22,900 that sucked 431 00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:26,066 you have to be very respectful of their process 432 00:18:26,066 --> 00:18:26,966 and in neither demon sense 433 00:18:26,966 --> 00:18:28,266 it was really just a campy 434 00:18:28,266 --> 00:18:29,400 let's have fun movie 435 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,000 we never had to even wear your shoes 436 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,466 stuff like 437 00:18:31,466 --> 00:18:34,166 it's even like things like eyes getting blown out 438 00:18:34,166 --> 00:18:35,966 and I was like we're having fun 439 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:39,266 yeah so it was always fun 440 00:18:39,266 --> 00:18:41,466 the only time I mean 441 00:18:41,466 --> 00:18:42,366 you always you're always 442 00:18:42,366 --> 00:18:44,766 when you got a small budget and an ambitious script 443 00:18:44,766 --> 00:18:46,700 you're always fighting with time 444 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:48,700 time is your enemy when 445 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:50,800 there were times when we were like down to the wire 446 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,666 and I wanted to do a fancy shot 447 00:18:52,666 --> 00:18:54,333 and the producers are just like 448 00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:57,300 we need to get this shot before the sun rises 449 00:18:57,533 --> 00:18:58,600 um usually you're 450 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,633 you're fighting sunset we were always fighting sunrise 451 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,033 but um 452 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,366 the shot with the mirrors 453 00:19:04,366 --> 00:19:08,066 because I had plotted it out in my head 454 00:19:08,166 --> 00:19:09,166 how I wanted to do it 455 00:19:09,166 --> 00:19:11,500 I had the art department build a false floor that we 456 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:13,166 put it a 45 degree angle 457 00:19:13,166 --> 00:19:15,866 I explained to the cameraman how we 458 00:19:15,866 --> 00:19:18,433 I wanted to do it um 459 00:19:18,933 --> 00:19:21,000 but didn't know it was gonna work 460 00:19:21,066 --> 00:19:23,466 and so were she and no and when I kept telling him when 461 00:19:23,466 --> 00:19:24,800 when I went no one seemed to quite 462 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,000 I couldn't explain it clearly to everybody 463 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:27,733 they like uh 464 00:19:27,733 --> 00:19:30,366 what I finally just said put the floor up 465 00:19:30,366 --> 00:19:33,366 you stand there and then half the cast on apple boxes 466 00:19:33,366 --> 00:19:35,266 have a third on apple boxes 467 00:19:35,266 --> 00:19:36,666 third just standing on the floor 468 00:19:36,666 --> 00:19:37,933 and then third like kneeling 469 00:19:37,933 --> 00:19:39,866 so that they would be at different levels 470 00:19:39,866 --> 00:19:42,200 and what we had to do is wrap the camera completely 471 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:42,866 and do the team 472 00:19:42,866 --> 00:19:45,300 which is like a black felt that absorbs light 473 00:19:45,300 --> 00:19:45,966 so that 474 00:19:45,966 --> 00:19:48,400 you wouldn't see the camera in any of the mirrors 475 00:19:48,766 --> 00:19:50,866 and then we had to place that 476 00:19:50,866 --> 00:19:53,200 all the actors around and we had to place them here in 477 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,533 the cameraman was sit there and go okay 478 00:19:54,533 --> 00:19:55,600 move that piece of that okay 479 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,566 now I have I have Lenay in that neat piece of glass 480 00:19:59,566 --> 00:20:00,200 and they said okay 481 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,966 okay now I have Amelia in that 482 00:20:01,966 --> 00:20:03,000 and we did that with everyone 483 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,600 and then they all had to duck and so 484 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,800 and take and then I just 485 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,300 you know okay 486 00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:08,533 you stand up first you 487 00:20:08,533 --> 00:20:08,800 you you 488 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,233 so it all looks like you're walking up to the mirrors 489 00:20:11,266 --> 00:20:12,900 but you're all just standing up 490 00:20:13,333 --> 00:20:15,100 and so we're about halfway through it 491 00:20:15,266 --> 00:20:18,300 everyone started to realize what I was doing 492 00:20:18,933 --> 00:20:20,733 and Kathy Polowell said oh 493 00:20:20,733 --> 00:20:23,766 this is a great shot have you done this before 494 00:20:24,533 --> 00:20:26,533 I said if I had done this before 495 00:20:26,533 --> 00:20:30,133 I wouldn't be sitting here shitting myself because if 496 00:20:30,133 --> 00:20:31,800 when we're done it doesn't work 497 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,900 I just wasted my whole shooting day 498 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,066 to get this one shot 499 00:20:35,066 --> 00:20:37,600 and I won't have time to shoot this scene standard 500 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,566 so we either get it in the mirror or we are 501 00:20:40,566 --> 00:20:42,500 you know big time screwed 502 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:45,900 so luckily it came out exactly as I envisioned it 503 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:46,900 uh 504 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:49,666 and they don't take the time now 505 00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:51,400 to really get shots like that 506 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,366 in the so called movies 507 00:20:53,366 --> 00:20:56,666 yeah and that was his choreography 508 00:20:56,666 --> 00:20:58,666 that was his moment of choreographing 509 00:20:58,666 --> 00:21:01,666 something really amazing 510 00:21:01,666 --> 00:21:03,800 do you all know what we're talking about 511 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,600 and I remember him saying 512 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,600 maybe you got to move an eighth of an inch 513 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,366 more to the left 514 00:21:08,366 --> 00:21:11,100 because we can see somebody else's head behind you 515 00:21:11,266 --> 00:21:13,366 trying to get each one of us in 516 00:21:13,366 --> 00:21:14,900 each little piece of glass 517 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:15,900 that's true it was like you 518 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:18,900 you talked about an actor having to say their lines 519 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:20,666 find their light hit their Mark 520 00:21:20,766 --> 00:21:21,700 which you can always tell 521 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:22,466 when you're working with someone 522 00:21:22,466 --> 00:21:23,466 who hasn't done movies yet 523 00:21:23,466 --> 00:21:25,566 and someone who has because they know how to do it 524 00:21:25,566 --> 00:21:27,533 but even if you knew how to do all that 525 00:21:27,533 --> 00:21:30,300 this was new cause this was like find your light 526 00:21:30,366 --> 00:21:32,066 hit your Mark know your line 527 00:21:32,066 --> 00:21:34,100 and while you're at it do this 528 00:21:35,333 --> 00:21:37,000 there you go this is great 529 00:21:37,266 --> 00:21:38,633 this is dog shit 530 00:21:39,533 --> 00:21:40,633 you're fucking me 531 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,800 Oscar worthy you're ruining my movie 532 00:21:45,933 --> 00:21:48,933 and we had 10 of them so everyone 533 00:21:48,933 --> 00:21:50,400 nine of you did a great job 534 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,000 you fucked me but it came up 535 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:53,933 I think we did again 536 00:21:53,933 --> 00:21:57,500 two takes and we were out and got it 537 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,933 when I'm going to assume with what you went through 538 00:22:00,933 --> 00:22:01,933 I'm just from living dead 539 00:22:01,933 --> 00:22:03,666 you know getting tackled by zombies in a graveyard 540 00:22:03,666 --> 00:22:05,633 this might have been a walk in the park for you 541 00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:09,400 it was a lot easier um 542 00:22:10,066 --> 00:22:11,966 the only part I dreaded was 543 00:22:11,966 --> 00:22:13,700 the final scene in the movie 544 00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:16,300 because I knew I would be in the makeup chair 545 00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:17,800 for a long time 546 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,266 we started at 3 in the afternoon one day 547 00:22:21,266 --> 00:22:22,700 and I think we got the 548 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,266 the shot at dawn or something like that 549 00:22:26,466 --> 00:22:30,300 so I think we were in makeup for I 550 00:22:30,300 --> 00:22:34,100 I was because I have Randy Cook who I love 551 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:37,533 but he would like do the makeup and stand back and look 552 00:22:37,533 --> 00:22:39,533 and do the makeup and stand back and look 553 00:22:39,533 --> 00:22:42,400 it took like 14 hours I'm not kidding 554 00:22:42,466 --> 00:22:45,233 and I was just like ready to tear it all off 555 00:22:45,766 --> 00:22:47,100 but um 556 00:22:47,333 --> 00:22:49,233 and then you get the jokes like 557 00:22:49,466 --> 00:22:51,266 you remind me of that ex girlfriend 558 00:22:51,266 --> 00:22:53,800 or have you seen a dermatologist about that 559 00:22:56,733 --> 00:22:59,866 go nuts so I remember I'm wearing fangs 560 00:22:59,866 --> 00:23:00,500 oh yeah 561 00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:01,300 yeah 562 00:23:01,900 --> 00:23:04,933 I know it was just like everybody would say that 563 00:23:04,933 --> 00:23:07,700 and you felt funny eating in front of anybody 564 00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:09,500 if you could eat you know 565 00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:11,200 through the prosthetics 566 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,900 it made acting possessed a lot more method 567 00:23:17,266 --> 00:23:20,466 I remember looking in the mirror not recognizing myself 568 00:23:20,866 --> 00:23:23,600 and it was a really scary feeling 569 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,800 yeah like who is that 570 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,200 and people look at you different 571 00:23:27,366 --> 00:23:29,100 well that was what I noticed is that 572 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:29,400 you know 573 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,266 Linnea was probably the only one that was within the 574 00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:34,800 was kind of a star already in the horror community 575 00:23:34,866 --> 00:23:36,500 so a lot of crew guys knew who she was 576 00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:38,433 and they were kind of ruling and quickly will 577 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:41,533 and so they reacted to her specific way on the set 578 00:23:41,533 --> 00:23:42,966 when she would show up hubba 579 00:23:42,966 --> 00:23:43,466 hubba hubba 580 00:23:43,466 --> 00:23:45,700 whatever and she showed up in the makeup 581 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:47,733 and guys who had been lusting after her 582 00:23:47,733 --> 00:23:49,033 wouldn't even look at her 583 00:23:49,933 --> 00:23:51,900 it was funny it's like it just makeup 584 00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:53,800 but it was so good 585 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:56,833 that it was disturbing enough that you would be like 586 00:23:58,133 --> 00:24:00,566 yeah come back when you got that on 587 00:24:01,533 --> 00:24:04,666 it was really it was really striking 588 00:24:05,066 --> 00:24:05,933 oh how funny 589 00:24:05,933 --> 00:24:08,400 I didn't even know about that 590 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:11,533 out of curiosity during your hoodie 591 00:24:11,533 --> 00:24:13,533 great experiences working with Steve Johnson 592 00:24:13,533 --> 00:24:15,000 I mean he was amazing in this 593 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,266 I always think of the 594 00:24:17,166 --> 00:24:18,900 I can't help but think about that 595 00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:19,666 you know it's funny 596 00:24:19,666 --> 00:24:22,700 Steven I did not get along because he what 597 00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:25,366 you know if you see the commentary of the interviews 598 00:24:25,366 --> 00:24:27,266 we talked about it and we're actually 599 00:24:27,266 --> 00:24:28,666 we're really good friends now 600 00:24:28,666 --> 00:24:29,566 I mean hanging out with 601 00:24:29,566 --> 00:24:31,900 you know and I love them to pieces 602 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,133 but you know 603 00:24:33,133 --> 00:24:35,133 it was his it was my film 604 00:24:35,133 --> 00:24:36,300 which were did not come out yet 605 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:38,666 so this was still a showcase for me 606 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,600 everybody who worked on it wanted to showcase 607 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,800 their best of their abilities 608 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,300 and Steve did too 609 00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:48,200 but Steve would actually like screw up my schedule 610 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,800 like he would just say 611 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,466 I can do the makeup in five hours 612 00:24:51,466 --> 00:24:53,533 and seven hours later and still be waiting for it 613 00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:55,566 so finally I just said I can't do this Steven 614 00:24:55,566 --> 00:24:56,400 if you're not ready 615 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,933 I'm gonna shoot it as is and he got really mad at me 616 00:24:59,933 --> 00:25:00,700 but I said listen 617 00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:03,066 you know and I finally at one point I said to him 618 00:25:03,066 --> 00:25:03,566 I know Steve 619 00:25:03,566 --> 00:25:06,833 I know cause this was the first film by his own shot 620 00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:09,166 he has started his own shop 621 00:25:09,166 --> 00:25:13,100 he left Richard Edlin and he'd gotten a job uh 622 00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:15,066 to do a Michael Jackson video 623 00:25:15,066 --> 00:25:17,133 which he bought his he got like a you know 624 00:25:17,133 --> 00:25:19,100 he's gonna get big advance where he bought a shop 625 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,733 he hired a big crew and then Michael Jackson fired him 626 00:25:21,733 --> 00:25:22,533 haha 627 00:25:23,466 --> 00:25:25,600 and he was like oh oh 628 00:25:26,466 --> 00:25:28,266 the job like the next day and he 629 00:25:28,266 --> 00:25:30,233 which is probably the only reason we got him 630 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,133 because we weren't paying a lot either 631 00:25:32,133 --> 00:25:36,366 but he needed the job so he took it and but 632 00:25:36,366 --> 00:25:39,100 but then he knew that this is his first film 633 00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:39,733 out of the gate 634 00:25:39,733 --> 00:25:43,300 he had to really come on like gangbusters 635 00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:45,700 so he wanted his stuff showcase 636 00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:47,100 but I finally had to sit him down and said listen 637 00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:50,000 I understand that but I want my directing showcase 638 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,666 the actors want their performances showcase the DP 639 00:25:52,666 --> 00:25:54,566 wants his lighting showcase 640 00:25:54,733 --> 00:25:56,566 camera operator wants his camera movement 641 00:25:56,566 --> 00:25:58,466 we all wanna be showcased 642 00:25:58,466 --> 00:26:01,266 and it's my job to make sure that 643 00:26:01,266 --> 00:26:04,300 what ends up being showcased is the entire film 644 00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:06,933 not just once my so um 645 00:26:06,933 --> 00:26:09,700 I finally what I did was that we made a compromise 646 00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:12,300 we took the two most elaborate effects 647 00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:15,500 which was the eye gouge and the razors in the throat 648 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:17,100 and I agreed not to shoot them 649 00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:18,566 while we were shooting the film 650 00:26:18,566 --> 00:26:21,466 we put them at the end we added on one day 651 00:26:21,466 --> 00:26:23,500 and we spent half a day on the razor effect 652 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,900 and half a day on the eye effect 653 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:27,566 which is why they turned out so amazing 654 00:26:27,933 --> 00:26:29,366 and that was like that I said 655 00:26:29,366 --> 00:26:31,500 if you can then get them in their makeup 656 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:33,900 and out there at the wall on time 657 00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:37,433 and I will kill you and you won't have to kill me 658 00:26:37,933 --> 00:26:39,966 and actually when we did the wall scene 659 00:26:40,133 --> 00:26:42,066 because it was like all eight of them 660 00:26:42,066 --> 00:26:43,266 eight of them were possessed 661 00:26:43,266 --> 00:26:46,933 he called in favor so we had like a dozen Oscar winners 662 00:26:46,933 --> 00:26:47,366 oh yeah 663 00:26:47,366 --> 00:26:48,800 working on there for free 664 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,966 just a favor to see 665 00:26:49,966 --> 00:26:51,800 because everyone had to have their own makeup 666 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,133 so in order to make our schedule so well 667 00:26:55,133 --> 00:26:56,500 I ended up marrying him 668 00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:01,233 so you can imagine how long it took him to get ready 669 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,400 you two fell in love on this phone 670 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,866 yeah I have this huge crush on Steve Jobs 671 00:27:14,866 --> 00:27:16,933 oh I'll tell you my secrets now 672 00:27:16,933 --> 00:27:20,100 and then I hear that he is plaster casting 673 00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,300 Linnea Quiley's chest nice 674 00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:26,100 and enjoying the process a little bit too much 675 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,433 and I went oh damn 676 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:31,166 there he goes no 677 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,466 oh my God I got you sharing it 678 00:27:33,466 --> 00:27:36,700 I know it but I got shit for it because he said 679 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,066 you just came in the shop and took off your top 680 00:27:39,066 --> 00:27:39,700 and I'm like well 681 00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:41,300 that's what I was supposed to do 682 00:27:42,366 --> 00:27:44,466 he gave me shit about it I know 683 00:27:44,466 --> 00:27:45,733 we went to see the cast later 684 00:27:45,733 --> 00:27:47,066 and he could not stop talking about 685 00:27:47,066 --> 00:27:49,066 this beautiful actress coming in and 686 00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:50,533 you know she had the most perfect rise 687 00:27:50,533 --> 00:27:52,533 and I said oh 688 00:27:52,533 --> 00:27:53,833 you can't you did the cast 689 00:27:53,866 --> 00:27:54,766 yeah and he got 690 00:27:54,766 --> 00:27:56,466 and he was obviously enamored with her 691 00:27:56,466 --> 00:27:56,866 I said well 692 00:27:56,866 --> 00:27:58,933 maybe you should take her to dinner or something 693 00:27:58,933 --> 00:28:01,066 this least you could do after you rub glue ball 694 00:28:04,666 --> 00:28:06,366 on that note I think we should open up 695 00:28:08,333 --> 00:28:09,633 who's first right up here 696 00:28:09,666 --> 00:28:11,666 I was just wondering what your favorite 697 00:28:11,666 --> 00:28:13,633 behind the scenes moments were 698 00:28:17,333 --> 00:28:20,466 Philip Tanzini had his arm chopped off of his 699 00:28:20,466 --> 00:28:21,666 spewing blood 700 00:28:22,266 --> 00:28:24,566 and this was before there were laws 701 00:28:24,566 --> 00:28:26,933 that you can't go out in public in special effect 702 00:28:26,933 --> 00:28:27,733 makeup 703 00:28:28,333 --> 00:28:31,966 and one morning after we've been up all night shooting 704 00:28:31,966 --> 00:28:32,966 and he's missing as 705 00:28:32,966 --> 00:28:36,800 it's just a bloody stub he drove through Burger King 706 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,600 yeah 707 00:28:41,166 --> 00:28:42,566 and had the girl you know 708 00:28:42,566 --> 00:28:44,933 reaching out to take his order and and 709 00:28:44,933 --> 00:28:46,800 and here he is with the arms 710 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,866 and so for me we had practical jokes going 711 00:28:51,866 --> 00:28:53,766 I think there are a lot of movies now 712 00:28:53,766 --> 00:28:56,200 that people are very serious 713 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,666 and also Billy Gallo was running around with a steak 714 00:29:00,666 --> 00:29:02,433 sticking out of his heart 715 00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:04,766 and he would make it jump 716 00:29:04,766 --> 00:29:05,966 you know he made 717 00:29:06,133 --> 00:29:10,300 and it's so it was a fun cast with great sense of humor 718 00:29:10,366 --> 00:29:11,833 Billy was so buff 719 00:29:12,666 --> 00:29:15,066 we couldn't when he was laying there with the steak 720 00:29:15,066 --> 00:29:16,066 and he's supposed to be dead 721 00:29:16,066 --> 00:29:17,400 he could hold his breath 722 00:29:17,466 --> 00:29:19,533 but because he had like zero body fat 723 00:29:19,533 --> 00:29:21,566 every time his heart beat the sticker go 724 00:29:25,133 --> 00:29:26,500 get out of shape would 725 00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:29,533 you know my two behind the scenes all 726 00:29:29,533 --> 00:29:30,633 both fell 727 00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:33,500 we were shooting with this stuff called cookie smoke 728 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:34,700 which is now banned 729 00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:37,066 because they decided it was carcinogenic 730 00:29:37,533 --> 00:29:40,300 smoke up the house you can't see the smoke on camera 731 00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:42,166 but what it does is when someone turns on a flashlight 732 00:29:42,166 --> 00:29:44,333 it gives this beautiful beam of light 733 00:29:44,333 --> 00:29:46,366 so that's why we have all these beautiful beams 734 00:29:46,366 --> 00:29:48,733 come through the windows and everyone's flashlights 735 00:29:48,733 --> 00:29:50,100 looks amazing 736 00:29:50,466 --> 00:29:53,466 but we had a mixture of white and blue smoke 737 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,100 and you go home at night and blow your nose 738 00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:57,600 and it would just oh 739 00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,033 lots of blue coming out of your nose 740 00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:03,200 so we had a prop department handles the cookie 741 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:03,700 and what it is 742 00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:05,566 it's like a chunk that looks like Styrofoam 743 00:30:05,566 --> 00:30:07,600 they put it in an actual frying pan 744 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,400 and they light it and it catches on fire 745 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,866 and then they put out the fire 746 00:30:10,866 --> 00:30:12,500 and it wafts and smoke comes off 747 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:15,200 and the guy walks through the room with a fan 748 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,333 and fills the room with smoke 749 00:30:16,333 --> 00:30:18,800 and then you let the smoke settle and then you shoot 750 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,366 so we're getting ready to do a shot 751 00:30:20,366 --> 00:30:23,666 and the prop guy's assistant was very done ho 752 00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:25,466 and he was always that was his job 753 00:30:25,466 --> 00:30:26,933 so he would make sure do we have enough smoke 754 00:30:26,933 --> 00:30:27,500 do we have enough so 755 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,200 we're getting ready to do Phil's close up 756 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,400 when he's at the fireplace looking at Linnaeus but 757 00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:36,766 and so it's on him and we're just about to shoot 758 00:30:36,766 --> 00:30:40,000 and affects the prophesist and goes 759 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,500 do you need more smoke and Phil goes 760 00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:43,133 I'll check 761 00:30:43,133 --> 00:30:47,766 and he shoves his finger up and blew from here up 762 00:30:47,766 --> 00:30:49,166 and he goes no we're good 763 00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:52,966 and the second one is 764 00:30:52,966 --> 00:30:56,033 he's in the coffin with gel terashita 765 00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:57,533 and she they 766 00:30:57,533 --> 00:30:59,766 we did a take of them having sex in the cop 767 00:30:59,766 --> 00:31:01,400 then she gets out to go 768 00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:04,100 touch up her body makeup 769 00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:06,866 so Phil is laying in the coffin just wearing a G string 770 00:31:07,066 --> 00:31:09,533 and he in the first ad would banter all the time 771 00:31:09,533 --> 00:31:11,733 so the first ad is leaning on the lid of the coffin 772 00:31:11,733 --> 00:31:12,933 and he's and he's 773 00:31:12,933 --> 00:31:13,800 he's talking to Phil 774 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,100 he's telling him a story or whatever 775 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:15,800 and Phil's listening 776 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,100 and I'm just standing there dealing with 777 00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:18,066 you know the DP or whatever 778 00:31:18,066 --> 00:31:20,566 but I'm hearing and I don't even know what story was 779 00:31:20,566 --> 00:31:21,966 the lab where he's talking it 780 00:31:21,966 --> 00:31:24,200 and when he's done Phil just goes 781 00:31:24,933 --> 00:31:25,200 hey dude 782 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,633 do me a favor stop looking at me down there 783 00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:33,433 the first lady fell on the floor laughing 784 00:31:34,166 --> 00:31:36,033 those are my best memories 785 00:31:38,466 --> 00:31:43,566 I remember anything it was just all such a whirlwind 786 00:31:45,266 --> 00:31:48,800 I think just when we first like all met 787 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,333 I remember Bill being like a teenager 788 00:31:52,333 --> 00:31:54,100 just like all that energy 789 00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:55,866 and over the first day 790 00:31:55,866 --> 00:31:58,633 Dean would just correct him all the time like 791 00:31:59,166 --> 00:32:01,333 you know like his daddy 792 00:32:01,333 --> 00:32:03,800 yeah and I remember that I 793 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,566 it was horrible the time 794 00:32:05,566 --> 00:32:07,000 but when they're doing the scene 795 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,266 where they all go around 796 00:32:08,266 --> 00:32:09,400 they have the camera in the middle 797 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,000 and they're going around the room 798 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,166 and I'm supposed to say wuss 799 00:32:13,166 --> 00:32:14,500 wuss wuss 800 00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:17,200 I didn't know how to say wuss or wuss 801 00:32:17,566 --> 00:32:18,966 and so I would be 802 00:32:18,966 --> 00:32:20,766 you know supposed to be a teenager 803 00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:23,366 and so they would be having the camera go around in 804 00:32:23,366 --> 00:32:24,400 my mind's going 805 00:32:26,266 --> 00:32:30,366 I'm so nervous and everything crazy I got it 806 00:32:31,566 --> 00:32:33,100 for the record it's worse 807 00:32:34,133 --> 00:32:35,633 I still don't know 808 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,600 yes I know 809 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,300 we talked about this last night 810 00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:50,066 I'm so I'm so intrigued by the lipstick scene 811 00:32:50,866 --> 00:32:52,233 and they has got magic 812 00:32:53,533 --> 00:32:54,966 she showed that to me in the audition 813 00:32:54,966 --> 00:32:56,166 I said we have to put 814 00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:00,300 that 815 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:14,833 back then 816 00:33:15,566 --> 00:33:17,766 all the makeup they wore was foam rubber 817 00:33:17,766 --> 00:33:18,900 they didn't have 818 00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:22,633 the silicone and latex that they have now 819 00:33:23,133 --> 00:33:25,200 which looks better looks more like skin 820 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,766 is easier to apply easier to move 821 00:33:26,766 --> 00:33:27,700 it was all foam 822 00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:29,566 rubber that had to be stuck on with glue 823 00:33:29,566 --> 00:33:31,033 and then peeled off 824 00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:34,800 but for the shot of the breast 825 00:33:35,133 --> 00:33:37,266 foam rubber wasn't gonna cut it cause I wanted 826 00:33:37,266 --> 00:33:39,466 you know you had to be close on it when it went in 827 00:33:40,166 --> 00:33:44,166 and so Steve said I'm gonna make it out of gelatin 828 00:33:44,266 --> 00:33:49,000 cause gelatin has a translucent like real human skin 829 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,733 the problem is it's gelatin 830 00:33:50,733 --> 00:33:53,900 so it looks great but you make them all 831 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:56,100 you have to stick it in a fridge like Jello 832 00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:58,100 and when you go out of the fridge 833 00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,766 you got maybe two hours before 834 00:33:59,766 --> 00:34:01,300 starts to turn into jello 835 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:02,366 like liquid 836 00:34:03,333 --> 00:34:05,400 so he said when I build it 837 00:34:05,466 --> 00:34:07,400 we have to shoot it right away 838 00:34:07,466 --> 00:34:09,666 so we rehearsed it yeah 839 00:34:09,866 --> 00:34:13,633 without the it's a plate that goes from here to here 840 00:34:13,766 --> 00:34:15,500 and then it's hidden by her neck 841 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,533 her chin down 842 00:34:16,533 --> 00:34:18,500 and it's tucked into the waist of her skirt 843 00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:20,166 and you remember she's got her shirt open 844 00:34:20,166 --> 00:34:21,400 so you don't see the sides 845 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,900 because the shirt blocks that 846 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,266 yeah and what I wanted was 847 00:34:25,266 --> 00:34:26,666 I didn't wanna do one fake boob 848 00:34:26,666 --> 00:34:27,866 and have her really topless 849 00:34:27,866 --> 00:34:29,166 and then cut for the effect 850 00:34:29,166 --> 00:34:31,500 cause I said they audience will know that's what we did 851 00:34:31,666 --> 00:34:34,200 I said we'll start out wide and I'll push it 852 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,666 and she was worried cause when I double 853 00:34:35,666 --> 00:34:36,766 it goes you won't see the effect 854 00:34:36,766 --> 00:34:37,900 I said but I'll do a push in 855 00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:39,566 so by the time the effect happens 856 00:34:39,566 --> 00:34:41,366 we'll be in our close up but we didn't cut 857 00:34:41,366 --> 00:34:42,166 we pushed in 858 00:34:42,166 --> 00:34:45,166 so everyone thinks they're looking at her real boobs 859 00:34:45,266 --> 00:34:47,100 and then they're completely creeped out 860 00:34:47,766 --> 00:34:49,433 I didn't know they could do that 861 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,000 yeah but the problem was she's right handed 862 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,100 so we had for the left boob so she could do that 863 00:34:59,533 --> 00:35:01,200 but when we rehearsed it 864 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,766 her hand doing it this way block the effect 865 00:35:04,966 --> 00:35:07,033 so he said okay you got to use this hand 866 00:35:08,366 --> 00:35:10,433 hello I'm right handed 867 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,366 so she was really nervous that 868 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,100 you know doing it with her left hand and having to do 869 00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:18,700 is a very awkward and unnatural way to do it 870 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,766 but we did two takes they both went perfect 871 00:35:20,766 --> 00:35:22,400 yeah and we were done 872 00:35:22,566 --> 00:35:23,366 wow yeah 873 00:35:23,366 --> 00:35:25,566 but we rehearsed before we even brought it out 874 00:35:25,566 --> 00:35:26,700 yeah the camera move 875 00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:28,400 and how long it would take her to get there 876 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,866 and the camera to get there too 877 00:35:29,866 --> 00:35:31,900 it's very real yeah 878 00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:34,500 it was amazing I'd look in the mirror with it on 879 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:35,666 I'd be like oh my gosh 880 00:35:39,133 --> 00:35:40,266 must be Thursday 881 00:35:42,733 --> 00:35:44,600 I like watching Kevin reenact at first 882 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,900 so it's very funny to sit yeah 883 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,600 yeah she does it 884 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,600 the iconic dance scene 885 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,766 music selected for that add so much to it 886 00:36:00,766 --> 00:36:05,100 who chose that track and did she dance with it 887 00:36:05,133 --> 00:36:07,866 when you filmed it or was it a live 888 00:36:08,133 --> 00:36:10,133 do you remember the actual song 889 00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:12,966 Joe had it in the script another Bow House 890 00:36:12,966 --> 00:36:15,166 but it wasn't that it wasn't the right one 891 00:36:15,166 --> 00:36:18,066 no that was the right song for that 892 00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:21,400 she insisted that we use that song 893 00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:23,366 and I um 894 00:36:23,366 --> 00:36:24,666 I couldn't believe 895 00:36:24,666 --> 00:36:28,333 when we actually got the rights to that song 896 00:36:28,333 --> 00:36:31,333 yeah but what a difference that day 897 00:36:31,333 --> 00:36:33,666 to have Stigmata Martyr as that song 898 00:36:33,666 --> 00:36:35,866 and so you dance to something else 899 00:36:35,866 --> 00:36:36,266 no no 900 00:36:36,266 --> 00:36:38,900 she danced to stigma she brought it in to dance to it 901 00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:40,033 we all said oh 902 00:36:40,166 --> 00:36:42,300 once we heard her saw her dance to it was like 903 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:44,766 this gotta be the song so then we started 904 00:36:44,766 --> 00:36:45,566 you know 905 00:36:46,266 --> 00:36:47,100 do it yeah 906 00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:49,600 going through the arduous task of finding the rights 907 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,900 and then bargaining and negotiating 908 00:36:53,666 --> 00:36:54,333 yeah well 909 00:36:54,333 --> 00:36:55,500 you can get the dance to 910 00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:56,733 we weren't necessarily going to use it 911 00:36:56,733 --> 00:36:57,466 because we didn't even know if 912 00:36:57,466 --> 00:36:59,000 we didn't have the rights to it 913 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,266 yeah we didn't think we had the rights to it so 914 00:37:01,566 --> 00:37:05,333 but we thought this dance is so perfect with this song 915 00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:06,600 and we went it's funny 916 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,900 when I was one of the producers on the remake 917 00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:10,800 which had a much bigger budget 918 00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:13,266 and they had a lot of great songs 919 00:37:13,266 --> 00:37:16,133 from Concrete Blond and Goat Whore and 920 00:37:16,133 --> 00:37:18,766 you know every punk rat band you can think of 921 00:37:18,866 --> 00:37:21,066 and at one point the director of that 922 00:37:21,066 --> 00:37:21,800 Adam asked me 923 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:22,866 goes you had all these 924 00:37:22,866 --> 00:37:22,966 you know 925 00:37:22,966 --> 00:37:24,900 everyone was wearing these logos for all these great 926 00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:27,233 punk bands but you didn't use any of the music either 927 00:37:27,266 --> 00:37:28,700 we didn't have $4 million 928 00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:32,200 but we were lucky we got the mouse song 929 00:37:32,466 --> 00:37:34,600 you know we didn't think we were got 930 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,766 we actually weren't planning to budget any songs 931 00:37:37,766 --> 00:37:39,500 Dennis which is my brother who composed 932 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,933 did the score was just gonna write all the songs 933 00:37:41,933 --> 00:37:43,866 because we really didn't think we would get 934 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,066 anybody song so 935 00:37:46,066 --> 00:37:49,266 we were very pleased when we got the about house song 936 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,066 the same thing on the dance 937 00:37:55,866 --> 00:37:57,900 the dress seems to transform 938 00:37:57,900 --> 00:37:59,700 during the process of the dance 939 00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:03,366 is that like two separate outfits or layers added 940 00:38:04,533 --> 00:38:05,900 you're seeing stuff dude 941 00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:08,133 yeah no 942 00:38:08,133 --> 00:38:10,700 it was she had the wedding gown and then 943 00:38:10,866 --> 00:38:12,100 but it would have been real 944 00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:15,100 once she got dancing and was jumping and yeah 945 00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:16,733 no way you would have done in a wedding gown 946 00:38:16,733 --> 00:38:16,966 no 947 00:38:16,966 --> 00:38:20,500 there were several different renditions of that dress 948 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,166 you know one of them was when it 949 00:38:22,166 --> 00:38:24,166 half the dress is burned off 950 00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:25,766 and that was a body double 951 00:38:25,766 --> 00:38:28,700 who did a double flip off a three story building 952 00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:31,166 that's real that was real 953 00:38:31,166 --> 00:38:33,133 she really did that the girl jumped 954 00:38:33,133 --> 00:38:35,700 did it attached to a guy cause it's a boy did it 955 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:38,900 and half her body is really on fire 956 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:41,766 and she landed in a trampoline 957 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:45,033 no no boxes 958 00:38:45,166 --> 00:38:46,800 they couldn't get they couldn't get 959 00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,566 they usually use a big airbag 960 00:38:49,566 --> 00:38:53,100 but because the area was too small to get an airbag 961 00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:57,200 and they put cardboard boxes about three or four deep 962 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:57,700 and you know 963 00:38:57,700 --> 00:38:59,766 fill and I said are you kidding me 964 00:38:59,766 --> 00:39:02,933 those boxes collapse they break the fall I said really 965 00:39:02,933 --> 00:39:04,400 and just before they did the jump 966 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,333 he picked up a piece of the picket fence 967 00:39:06,333 --> 00:39:08,400 that was laying there and he threw that on top 968 00:39:08,533 --> 00:39:09,200 I said what are you doing 969 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,966 he goes that'll break the ball too 970 00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:14,833 he's the guy 971 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,166 she's wrapped around the guy 972 00:39:17,166 --> 00:39:19,600 and he does a backflip off and 973 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,800 and she's hanging on to and the two of them 974 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,733 that's amazing it's a never been photographed 975 00:39:24,733 --> 00:39:25,266 it was a stunt 976 00:39:25,266 --> 00:39:29,600 that had never been done anywhere before 977 00:39:30,333 --> 00:39:31,133 yeah 978 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,766 we didn't inform the crew 979 00:39:32,766 --> 00:39:34,166 because it would have been a downer 980 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,800 there were services later 981 00:39:39,866 --> 00:39:46,000 no one when Sal gets Sal goes off the roof with oh yes 982 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,800 okay the girl half her body is on fire 983 00:39:48,966 --> 00:39:52,666 that's really really on fire no she was just I was 984 00:39:53,933 --> 00:39:56,333 actually on fire cause cause angels out by then 985 00:39:56,333 --> 00:39:57,466 she just no 986 00:39:57,466 --> 00:39:59,800 actually no she's on fire 987 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,200 she's not on fire 988 00:40:03,266 --> 00:40:05,566 you're all gonna have to watch it again 989 00:40:06,733 --> 00:40:08,833 Amelia's having an alzheimer's 990 00:40:13,066 --> 00:40:14,700 Kevin Tenny's a reckless director 991 00:40:18,966 --> 00:40:20,500 to answer your question yeah 992 00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:22,166 that was a see through dress 993 00:40:22,166 --> 00:40:23,333 that was a different dress 994 00:40:23,333 --> 00:40:24,900 it was actually layers of chifari 995 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:27,533 there were five or six different dresses 996 00:40:27,533 --> 00:40:29,700 according to levels of possession 997 00:40:30,066 --> 00:40:31,466 so when she was doing her dance 998 00:40:31,466 --> 00:40:33,366 we have cause what we wanted was when she 999 00:40:33,366 --> 00:40:35,100 we shot her from the side 1000 00:40:35,666 --> 00:40:37,666 where she's between the fireplace 1001 00:40:37,666 --> 00:40:40,866 we wanted to create the illusion that the fireplace 1002 00:40:40,866 --> 00:40:42,733 was making the dress transparent 1003 00:40:42,733 --> 00:40:44,066 so when we shot this way 1004 00:40:44,066 --> 00:40:46,000 and she was dancing here in the fireplace was here 1005 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,333 we put her in the chiffon so you could see through it 1006 00:40:48,333 --> 00:40:50,200 and then when she was dancing all around 1007 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,066 we had her in chiffon 1008 00:40:51,066 --> 00:40:52,800 so she could actually throw her legs around 1009 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,866 and then when she stops dancing 1010 00:40:54,866 --> 00:40:56,900 stooge comes up she's back in the gown 1011 00:41:00,666 --> 00:41:01,800 wow that's amazing 1012 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,300 you realize that 1013 00:41:03,966 --> 00:41:05,500 well why not when it transforms 1014 00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:08,266 you get to see Amelia's like amazing dancer like 1015 00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:13,233 it looks great 1016 00:41:14,733 --> 00:41:16,066 we've got time for a couple more questions 1017 00:41:16,066 --> 00:41:18,533 anybody in the back I don't want to miss anybody okay 1018 00:41:18,533 --> 00:41:19,700 now this gentleman 1019 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,666 I was really intrigued with the demon 1020 00:41:23,666 --> 00:41:26,066 the person who did the demon voice 1021 00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:27,966 now how did you incorporate that 1022 00:41:27,966 --> 00:41:30,400 like when Angela would you know 1023 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,866 like be speaking 1024 00:41:31,933 --> 00:41:34,533 but obviously wasn't your voice like how did you 1025 00:41:34,533 --> 00:41:36,700 did you have that guy before that beforehand 1026 00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:39,400 or did you have lips just sort of like tenure singing 1027 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,100 he speaks and kind of that 1028 00:41:41,166 --> 00:41:43,500 that would be brutally hard to do it that way no 1029 00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:45,800 they said their lines and then in ADR 1030 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,033 the guy came in and just dumped it 1031 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,466 and he could actually just do that voice 1032 00:41:50,733 --> 00:41:51,733 I went to high school with him 1033 00:41:51,733 --> 00:41:52,966 and after we saw the Exorcist 1034 00:41:52,966 --> 00:41:54,600 he would cold call female 1035 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,033 I know a guy who can do those voices 1036 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,600 but actually they couldn't speak very well with those 1037 00:42:10,766 --> 00:42:12,233 keep it there we go 1038 00:42:12,266 --> 00:42:15,900 I'm going to record it now 1039 00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:16,900 so I mean 1040 00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:19,000 they sounded horrible anyway 1041 00:42:21,533 --> 00:42:23,800 so we just recorded them as a 1042 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,600 basically as a track so he could dub to it 1043 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,000 but we were silly 1044 00:42:33,533 --> 00:42:34,666 after all these years 1045 00:42:34,666 --> 00:42:37,366 knowing that the film has such a strong following 1046 00:42:37,366 --> 00:42:38,666 I mean 1047 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,933 VHS collector and a lot of people out there 1048 00:42:41,933 --> 00:42:43,466 still eating select tapes 1049 00:42:43,466 --> 00:42:46,866 and there are few people that will go all the way to 1050 00:42:46,866 --> 00:42:49,100 have every single copy of neither demons 1051 00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:51,166 on VHS so 1052 00:42:51,166 --> 00:42:52,000 how's it feel 1053 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,866 knowing that it's actually become such a huge 1054 00:42:54,866 --> 00:42:56,266 I'm kind of sad to realize that 1055 00:42:56,266 --> 00:42:58,066 mental illness has reached that 1056 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,200 it's like it's obviously an epidemic 1057 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,366 you know we had the screening in Hollywood 1058 00:43:04,366 --> 00:43:05,733 which by the way was packed 1059 00:43:05,733 --> 00:43:07,966 they put seats in the aisles 1060 00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:10,100 and let people stand up in the back 1061 00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:12,066 four people four rows deep 1062 00:43:12,066 --> 00:43:14,200 and they still turn people away at the door 1063 00:43:14,266 --> 00:43:15,466 and about halfway through the film 1064 00:43:15,466 --> 00:43:17,100 Billy Gallo who plays Sal 1065 00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:18,100 was sitting in front of me 1066 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:19,633 and he leans back to me and he goes 1067 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000 did you ever imagine when we were on the Senate to this 1068 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,900 that we'd be sitting here 25 years later 1069 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:27,733 with a packed house and I said no 1070 00:43:27,733 --> 00:43:29,166 you if you got in a time machine 1071 00:43:29,166 --> 00:43:30,800 you went back and questioned any of us 1072 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,866 or any of the other cast or crew and said 1073 00:43:33,133 --> 00:43:35,466 you know this is gonna be a cult favorite 1074 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,366 we said no 1075 00:43:36,366 --> 00:43:37,266 we didn't even expect 1076 00:43:37,266 --> 00:43:38,600 the thing was gonna be in theaters 1077 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,400 two weeks after it was released 1078 00:43:40,766 --> 00:43:43,600 it just it completely caught all of us off guard 1079 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,933 oh yeah yeah 1080 00:43:44,933 --> 00:43:47,200 when we got the first review we got was variety 1081 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,533 which is brutal 1082 00:43:48,533 --> 00:43:51,300 cause that's the trade paper for Hollywood 1083 00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:53,366 and it was a rave I mean 1084 00:43:53,366 --> 00:43:55,000 like a freaking rave 1085 00:43:55,066 --> 00:43:56,700 and I called the producer and I said 1086 00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:58,500 how much did you pay this guy 1087 00:43:58,733 --> 00:44:00,866 I can't believe we got that review 1088 00:44:00,866 --> 00:44:02,300 I thought I mean 1089 00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:04,266 I thought the horror fans might like it 1090 00:44:04,266 --> 00:44:08,033 but I thought the critics were just gonna butcher us 1091 00:44:08,266 --> 00:44:12,133 and and some of them did quite well 1092 00:44:12,133 --> 00:44:15,300 I still have scars from some of those skewers 1093 00:44:15,333 --> 00:44:16,566 but but they were 1094 00:44:16,566 --> 00:44:17,900 I mean the 1095 00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:19,066 even the ones who hated it 1096 00:44:19,066 --> 00:44:21,600 were still impressed with the production value of it 1097 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,600 you know so 1098 00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:24,900 but no I don't think anyways 1099 00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:26,066 I might 1100 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,900 I get so many fans now ago 1101 00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:29,900 why didn't you make a soundtrack CD 1102 00:44:30,933 --> 00:44:34,366 never occurred to us if you want one yeah 1103 00:44:34,366 --> 00:44:37,233 who wants a soundtrack CD to a film they never heard of 1104 00:44:38,066 --> 00:44:43,066 I think in retrospect now that I got to see it recently 1105 00:44:43,733 --> 00:44:46,700 and I hadn't seen it for 20 years 1106 00:44:47,366 --> 00:44:49,866 oh we're going for it 1107 00:44:50,133 --> 00:44:52,900 no we were getting less than minimum wage 1108 00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:56,166 it was a 23 day shoot we're getting tortured 1109 00:44:56,266 --> 00:44:58,000 and as I'm watching 1110 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,900 we were talking about what a perfectionist 1111 00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:02,766 Steve Johnson was and what a pain in the ass that was 1112 00:45:02,933 --> 00:45:03,133 but 1113 00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:06,100 that's also one of the reasons this movie was so good 1114 00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:10,600 Kevin was going for nobody said we're tired 1115 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,900 we're not getting paid enough 1116 00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:13,333 we don't really care 1117 00:45:13,333 --> 00:45:15,600 and when I watch those performances 1118 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,133 Kathy Powell man 1119 00:45:17,133 --> 00:45:20,000 she was so authentic I mean 1120 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,800 there are scenes where she's screaming 1121 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:22,466 because of 1122 00:45:22,466 --> 00:45:26,166 a dismembered arm has attached itself to her 1123 00:45:26,166 --> 00:45:27,466 and she's gonna go 1124 00:45:29,766 --> 00:45:31,800 that's not easy to do 1125 00:45:32,266 --> 00:45:34,300 everything that was done in that movie 1126 00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:36,800 and when they are you were terrifying gorgeous 1127 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,866 funny wonderful and terrifying 1128 00:45:38,933 --> 00:45:42,200 it would have been so easy for it to look silly 1129 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,366 or cheap 1130 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,066 and have it be something that's just a big joke 1131 00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:48,366 the rate I mean 1132 00:45:48,366 --> 00:45:52,000 what really makes the film scary is Kevin's choices 1133 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,933 and his camera work oh yeah 1134 00:45:53,933 --> 00:45:56,866 the music also he wasn't getting paid very much 1135 00:45:56,866 --> 00:46:00,500 he was going for it all of the actors 1136 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:02,466 man we put everything 1137 00:46:02,466 --> 00:46:07,400 you can tell we put our soul into that movie 1138 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,900 and we were young we were hungry 1139 00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:12,400 we weren't well known we just thought hey 1140 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,166 let's just give it all we got 1141 00:46:14,166 --> 00:46:17,133 so it's really kind of a pursuit of excellence that 1142 00:46:17,133 --> 00:46:19,866 I think made the movie work 1143 00:46:20,066 --> 00:46:22,166 and there's something in it that you all look at it 1144 00:46:22,166 --> 00:46:23,766 this and you go hey 1145 00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:27,900 why why does it appeal to you the way it does 1146 00:46:42,966 --> 00:46:45,000 I think that's probably the best way to end 1147 00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:46,933 thank you so much for coming out 1148 00:46:46,933 --> 00:46:48,700 thank you for coming to the commercial 79426

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