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The beautiful coasts of Turkey
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and Eastern Europe are visited by
millions of us every year.
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But just a few miles inland is
a whole different world.
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One that is intoxicating, mysterious
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and steeped in history.
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This is such an incredible building.
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It was the largest church in
the world for a thousand years.
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The land where one of
the most formidable empires,
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lasting six centuries
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and spanning continents, was founded.
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Tesekkur ederim.
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I'm Alice Roberts
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and I'm travelling hundreds
of miles by train through Turkey
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and Eastern Europe.
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Oh, wow, look a that. Lovely.
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I want to discover
the fascinating story...
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Go. ..of the Ottoman Empire.
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Oh, no.
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This is the mausoleum
of Osman himself,
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the sultan who started
the Ottoman dynasty.
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Through its distinctive
architecture...
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Beautiful courtyard.
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..its historic leaders...
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The early Ottoman sultans had their
eye on this prize.
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Constantinople.
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..and of remnants of its turbulent
past.
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What a horrific monument.
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Having left Turkey behind,
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I'm now in the Balkans into which
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the Ottoman Empire expanded in
the fourteenth century.
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Oh, my goodness.
Somehow wasn't expecting that.
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I'm travelling north to
the glorious River Danube in
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the Serbian capital.
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Belgrade and its fortress really are
protecting this gateway to the rest
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of Europe.
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But I'm starting in Bulgaria,
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as I learn more about
the Ottoman Empire by train.
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This sleeper train is
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a 13 hour journey taking me from
Turkey into
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the Balkan peninsula of Europe.
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By the time I get
to Sofia I will have clocked up
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almost a thousand miles since Adana.
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This line is part of
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a route that originally opened
in 1916 linking Istanbul all
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the way to Berlin, The Balkan
Express.
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It was finally discontinued in
the 21st century.
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But this night train,
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from Istanbul to Sofia, was
reintroduced in 2017.
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It's almost midnight
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and I'm trying to stay awake in
readiness for
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a passport check some time in
the next hour.
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Eventually I reach the border.
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SHE YAWNS
And It's 1.30am.
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It's raining.
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And I seem to be
the last person off the train.
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This marks the end
of my time in Turkey
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and the start of my adventure into
Eastern Europe.
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SHE YAWNS
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No idea where I am.
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The timing of the passport check
seems a little brutal.
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All I want to do is sleep.
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But I will have
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a nice official record of my journey.
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Thank you very much.
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And I got a stamp anyway.
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A stamp in the passport.
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There we go.
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Istanbul.
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Came in. Going.
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It's a relief to wake up in Bulgaria
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I'm heading into the heart of
the capital Sofia.
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The Ottomans battled long and hard
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to conquer territories beyond Turkey.
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They claimed huge swathes of
the middle east,
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north Africa and here in
Eastern Europe.
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And they ruled this territory
for centuries.
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But, in the end, the Bulgarians
needed outside help
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to send the Ottomans back
to Istanbul.
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This is the road to Istanbul.
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If I carried on walking in that
direction,
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I would eventually get all the
way back
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to that city that I left on
the night train.
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Arriving here in Sofia.
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The road is called Tsarigradsko.
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That's the Bulgarian name
for Istanbul, Tsarigrad.
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The place of the tsar, the place of
the king.
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Over my shoulder here is
another tsar,
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a Russian tsar and its Alexander II.
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Now he sent troops into Bulgaria at
the end of
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the 19th century to fight
the Ottoman army.
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There had been a revolution bubbling
up already in what was
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to become Bulgaria
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and the Ottoman army had exerted
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extreme force, there had been
terrible reprisals, massacres
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and this caught the attention of
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the international community.
Russia came in pushing
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the Ottoman troops all
the way back to Istanbul,
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and this sowed the seeds
for Bulgaria to emerge as
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an independent state.
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Although this was once
Ottoman territory,
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the city today reflects
a more recent empire,
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of sorts, during the Soviet era.
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Vast neo-classical buildings from
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this period dominate the city.
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Life here has been transformed since
Bulgaria joined
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the EU in 2007.
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Sofia's affordable housing
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and low cost of living has made it
a magnet for artists,
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students and new businesses.
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Its vibrant streets, though, belie
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a city that has struggled at times
to come to terms
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with its past.
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I'm heading to the south side of
the city to find one of
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the few Ottoman structures
still standing,
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which only survived
because it was incorrectly named.
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This is the Roman Wall.
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When it was built,
in the 16th century,
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this area would have been
mostly fields.
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It's here I've arranged
to meet Rossitsa Gradeva,
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history professor at
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the American University of Bulgaria.
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So this is the so-called Roman Wall?
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The so-called Roman Wall.
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So it's not Roman?
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Not exactly. It's early Ottoman
actually.
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People didn't like very much
to associate with
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the Ottoman past.
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But I think it's
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the fact they believed that it's
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Roman that saved the structure here.
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And what is it? Because it seems
very odd
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that it is just this wall on its own.
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Was it part of a bigger building
or something?
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No, it's really a strange thing. As
you can see,
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the mihrab here... Yeah, yeah. ..the
praying niche.
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The niche that shows
the direction of Mecca.
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We don't have explanation why
and when it was built,
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but we know about such praying
places outside
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the mosque... Right, OK.
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..from the time of
Mohammed. Mohammed had such
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a structure outside
the walls of Medina
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and Muslims were praying there,
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the whole community together
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because one mosque may not contain
all of them.
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I see. It's the first time
I've seen this,
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It's the first time I've seen a
mihrab,
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effectively an open-air mosque.
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Well, what we believe is that this
is where,
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because Sofia was on
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the way of Ottoman army starting
from Medina towards West Vienna.
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Yeah. So Sofia was a major stop over.
For several days
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the whole army will be here and
pray when they needed
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to pray. Yeah. And this was
the perfect site for that.
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Yeah, yeah. So outside the city
itself.
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Rossitsa knows about more traces of
the Ottoman Empire in
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the city that she wants to show me.
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So we will be walking towards
the centre of the city.
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Tell me about Sofia
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and when it becomes part of
the Ottoman Empire.
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Actually the Ottomans captured it
from the Bulgarians in around 1385.
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Today Sofia is home to 1.5 million
people.
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In the earlier Ottoman period it was
just 20,000
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and the city stopped here at
the Perlovska River.
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So now we are entering
the Ottoman city.
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In post Ottoman Bulgaria there was
a desire to build
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a new national identity which led to
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a wide destruction
of almost everything associated with
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the Ottoman past.
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First up is a mosque which survived
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the purge by being transformed into
a Christian church.
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Who was the sultan at the time?
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Suleiman the Magnificent. Suleiman
the Magnificent.
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Was it his chief architect who
designed it?
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Yes, it's Sinan.
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Sinan. Who designed
the huge mosque in Istanbul.
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And plenty of others.
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So this is now a church
but it was originally a mosque?
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Yes, it was built as
a mosque in 1548.
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This is the entrance of
the original building. OK.
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This is a very regular...
It's a square space.
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Yeah, this is the original
structure, the original space.
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Incredible dome.
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The dome. Sinan was so good at
creating domes.
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It's called the black mosque
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because there was
a lot of black granite
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and it was lead laden, the dome, on
top .
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Yeah, covered in lead. Yeah. Yeah.
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Is that new because there is
an apse there?
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Absolutely, because
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the apse is from
the beginning of the 20th century.
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So that's been pushed out. That was
the Christianisation
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of the building. Yeah.
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The walls and ceilings feature
gilded images of Christian prophets
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and angels.
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The decorative painting was only
completed in 1996 by young
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local artists.
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So when Bulgaria became part of
the Ottoman Empire,
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was there a process
of conversion that happened there?
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Well, as soon as the Ottomans took
a place,
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conquered by force or surrendered,
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there would immediately be people
who would convert,
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sometimes by force,
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sometimes lured by advantages
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to hold positions in
the Ottoman Empire.
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It's such a complex process, isn't
it? It's very complex.
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We can't tell that it's just
pragmatism, or just great religion.
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What's fascinating is
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the relationship between state
and religion.
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That they're completely
intertwined. Absolutely.
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We don't talk about private
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and public space, it's...
Religion is everywhere.
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Yeah.
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The final location Rossitsa is
taking me to is
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the earliest building in Sofia.
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Just like the Seven Saints church,
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this building has also gone through
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a religious transition.
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The Rotunda, as it's known,
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is sandwiched by Soviet-style
government buildings,
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and it was a Christian church
for centuries.
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When the Ottomans came,
they converted it into a mosque.
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But today it's
a Christian church once again.
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But it didn't start off its life as
a religious building.
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So this is the Rotunda.
When does this date to?
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Beginnings fourth century, for
sure.
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Oh, OK. So that's Roman.
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So if it it's fourth century, it's
very unlikely to have been
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a church from the beginning.
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No, at the beginning, we don't
know the exact dedication
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or functionality of the building.
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Probably related to a public baths,
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or baths connected to
the towers of the emperors,
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probably some other
administrative building.
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And in the Soviet period,
it was shut?
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It was used as a museum. A museum.
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So it's built earlier
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and as the Roman Empire
becomes Christianised,
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it becomes used as a church.
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There was Christian population
here before
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the official Christianisation. The
official adoption of Christianity.
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So Sofia had developed as
a centre of Christianity.
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Mm.
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When you enter inside you will see
paintings.
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I love archangel Michael.
You have to find him.
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Beautiful archangel
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with beautiful eyes looking at you
from the dome, almost the dome.
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I can hear that there is
a service going on in there
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at the moment, but I would love to go
in and look at those paintings.
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You can find a quite nice
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combination of the music
and the painting.
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I'll go and have
a look. Thank you very much.
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It's a busy, working church,
but visitors are welcome,
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even during services.
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The murals were painted between
the 10th
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and 14th centuries.
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Rossitsa's favourite painting is
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the archangel Michael up there on
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the ceiling looking down at us.
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Despite five centuries of
the Ottomans in Bulgaria,
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there is scant evidence
of their empire here today.
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Later, I'll be heading to Serbia
to learn about
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the dark days of
the end of Ottoman rule there.
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I'm in central Sofia on my
quest to learn about
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the vast Ottoman Empire.
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Sofia is the first major city on
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the road into Europe from Turkey.
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To the north it is framed by
the Balkan Mountains.
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The city's full of enormous parks,
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which once earned it the title of
Europe's Green capital.
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It was an important city within
the Roman Empire
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and later, for the Ottomans.
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But there seems to be
a bit more visible evidence of
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the Romans,
even though they were much earlier.
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These extensive remains
of Roman fourth
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to sixth century buildings were
discovered during
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the construction of the metro
station.
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I'm meeting Kirila Atanasova
at the National Archaeology Museum.
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Kirila. Hello, Alice. Lovely to meet
you. Lovely to meet you.
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I'm so excited about going into
the Archaeological Museum.
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Yeah. Me too, let's go.
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Kirila is a researcher at
the University of Sofia
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and she wants to show me
a few important exhibits here.
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The museum is in what was once
a mosque,
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built by the Ottomans.
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It was constructed under
the orders of
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a high ranking governor,
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known in the Ottoman period as
a Grand Vizier.
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And some of the original Ottoman wall
decoration can be seen through
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the flaking paint.
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It was commissioned by one of
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the Grand Viziers of Mehmed II.
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Oh. His name was Mahmud Pasha.
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So Mehmed II who
conquered Constantinople?
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Exactly. The same guy.
His name was Mahmud Pasha.
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And he commissioned this?
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Yes. He was very prominent
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because he led the conquest of
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the Ottomans, the expansion to
Bosnia
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and to the Black Sea coast.
He was very influential.
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The museum includes exhibits
spanning thousands of years,
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with some exceptional artefacts from
the Roman period.
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The first piece Kirila wants
to show me is
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a poster advertising some
entertainment for the locals.
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So here what we are going to see
is what I call Third Century PR.
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This relief here?
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Yeah, It's a poster from
the third century
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and shows what was played at
the amphitheatre.
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Isn't that fantastic?
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Yeah.
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Is this a crocodile?
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Yeah, I guess so. It looks like
a crocodile.
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This looks like
a lion here attacking a...
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I think it's a horse because it's
got hooves.
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It's got an odd tail for a horse,
but it has hooves.
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And these are really odd.
Look at that.
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Because they're human figures but
they look like they're wearing...
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..dog masks.
Yeah, I think you're right.
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Really strange.
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But, yeah, a kind of poster
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for upcoming attractions at
the amphitheatre. Yes.
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Yeah. And this amphitheatre,
according to some archaeologists,
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was one
of the largest in the Roman Empire.
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Really? That speaks to the size
and importance of Roman Sofia.
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What was it called?
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Serdika. Serdika.
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It's very easy
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to get waylaid by all the incredible
Roman artefacts here,
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but there are some Ottoman
pieces too.
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So here we have an Ottoman helmet.
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That is from the 16th or 17th
century
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and it's gilded bronze.
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And you can see the Arabic script all
over it, yeah.
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So presumably the kind of helmet
that would've been worn in parades
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and not so much actually going into
battle.
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I don't think it's very practical
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for battles. Yeah.
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It's in extremely good condition.
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Have you got some more
Ottoman artefacts along here?
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Yeah, over there. These all date to
the Ottoman period as well?
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Yeah. They're from the Ottoman
period.
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Again, covered in Arabic script.
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Very intricate, isn't it?
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What were they used for?
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Some of them should be used
for bathing or for water.
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Yeah. Imagine using this
in your everyday life.
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Yeah. It would be quite fancy.
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The end of the Ottoman reign in
Bulgaria came with
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a heavy loss of life.
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15,000 Bulgarians were killed in
what is known as
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the April Uprising.
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Although the end of
the 19th century may seem
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a long time ago,
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it's Kirila's generation that are
just coming to terms
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with their family history under
the Ottomans.
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What's the perception of
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the Ottoman empire looking back to
that period from
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in Bulgarian history today?
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Well, for sure there is the family
trauma.
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If I may say, for example, my
family,
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one of my great great grandfathers
was killed during the April revolt.
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That's in the 19th century.
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Yes, in 1876.
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And, ah, well, we have the memory of
that but of course...
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..we should look forward
to our future
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and, um, I think we should start
accepting our past.
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And remember it, not forget it,
but also move forward.
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Mmm. Cos it's a traumatic time,
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the end of the Ottoman empire
for Bulgaria.
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For sure, not only for Bulgaria
but most of the Balkan countries.
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End of an era is always traumatic
for people.
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Yeah. The end of what they knew
and the beginning
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of something that is unknown was
very stressful for them.
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Some of the difficulties we see now,
politically, have their roots
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centuries ago.
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For sure, but we need to find
a mechanism to move forward...
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Mmm. ..and to, um, find a way
to live together.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, that's, I suppose that is
the lesson from history.
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We can see what happens when things
go wrong.
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For sure. Yeah.
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I'm taking the Metro
to Sofia's central railway station
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but feeling slightly nervous about
my next train.
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I want to head north across
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the border from Bulgaria into Serbia
to the city of Nis.
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I don't understand this.
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I know... I know that there's
a railway between Sofia
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and Nis in Serbia.
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But I just cannot seem to buy
a ticket.
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I have been looking online. It says
it's 96 miles.
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It's says it would take me a day
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and ten hours to walk there,
which is some good going,
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and doesn't involve any sleep.
I don't want to walk,
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I want to get a train.
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I would like to travel to Nis.
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Can I buy a ticket to Nis?
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No tickets, no trains.
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There is no train to Nis?
No train to Nis.
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Repair.
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Repair.
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Oh, OK, so there is normally
a railway line from Sofia to Nis.
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I am going to have to get
a taxi then I think,
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maybe a taxi.
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00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,320
OK, I will investigate. Thank you
very much.
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00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,000
Let's go Let's go.
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You don't sit in traffic like this
on a train, do you?
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I'm not used to it.
It's like being thwarted.
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It's now the Ottoman Empire mostly
by train.
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So much less pleasant than
travelling by train.
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When researching the story of
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the Ottoman Empire everyone told me
I must come to Nis.
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I've crossed the border from
Bulgaria into Serbia.
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I'm stopping off here before
I head up to Belgrade.
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Nis is fairly modest in size,
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with a population of 250,000,
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but it is one of
the oldest cities in Europe.
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The Nis Fortress is the centrepiece.
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It's one of the best preserved
Ottoman forts in the world.
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Today, it's used for recreation,
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as a venue for international
cultural events,
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for sport and just hanging out
with family and friends.
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This is the historic Nis Fortress
built right on
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the banks of the Nisava River,
first by the Romans,
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then it was developed further in the
Byzantine period
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and it was last re-fortified in 1723
under the Ottomans
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and within its walls it preserves
all those different phases
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of its history.
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The Ottomans dominated Nis
for 500 years.
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And these were mostly peaceful times
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for those living under their rule.
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But it was towards
the end of their reign in
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the early 19th century when tensions
grew
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and skirmishes turned into
a series of bloody battles.
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I'm meeting a young researcher who
can tell me about
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a tragic Ottoman monument.
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It's a structure that became known
as the Skull Tower.
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The Skull Tower today is hidden
from view,
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inside this chapel,
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which was purpose
built around it in 1894.
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Ognjen.
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Hello. Lovely to meet you. Nice to
meet you, too.
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So this is the chapel that contains
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the famous Skull Tower?
So what happened?
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The monument behind us is connected
with one battle
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from the first Serbian uprising.
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The fight was on 31st May, 1809.
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The numbers of the Ottoman troops
were far greater than
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the Serbian ones.
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And when the commander perceived
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that victory was impossible,
he shot
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the gun powder storage and took
his life,
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all the remaining soldiers and all
of the Ottoman soldiers.
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He sacrificed himself and his troops?
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Yeah. Yeah. So in the end the total
number killed on
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the Serbian side was between 3,000
and 4,000. Really?
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But the number killed of
the Ottoman troops were two
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to three times greater. Right.
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And the governor of
the Ottoman troops, he ordered that
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the skulls of the dead
Serbian soldiers were collected,
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and used for the building of
the monument that is behind us.
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I mean, it seems to be a story that
harks back to
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the early middle ages... Yeah.
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..where you saw such atrocities
happening.
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Yeah. It harks back
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to things like Trajan's Column where
you've got soldiers carrying
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the heads of dead enemies on spikes.
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Displaying the dead heads of enemies
is something that
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is known in history
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and this is the last time it was
used, as far as I know,
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and this is the only surviving
monument of this kind.
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Yeah.
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So the tower still exists as
a monument to that battle
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but also as a memorial to
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the people that lost their lives.
Yes.
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Yeah. Shall we take a look? Sure.
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Oh, my goodness. They're right there
as you come in.
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Somehow I wasn't expecting that.
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I didn't expect
to immediately see the tower.
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Originally this tower contained
952 skulls.
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Some have been stolen,
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some have been destroyed
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and some have been buried.
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58 remain.
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What a horrific monument.
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As an anatomist I am used
to looking at human bones,
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but these skulls represent
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a terrible episode in Serbian
history.
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It's interesting when you look at
skulls because
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the first impression is,
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it's a skull.
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And then you start to look at the
details and you start to compare
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the different faces and
you can see how they differ.
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You can see that some have wider
cheekbones, narrower jaws...
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..maybe a taller skull here.
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Maybe a bigger brow ridge in some
of them.
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And you start to see the faces.
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Yeah. And recognise that these are
all individuals and...
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..each one is a person.
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Can't help thinking about all
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the people left behind, as well.
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All these men, thousands of men, died
that day.
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They've got families where fathers,
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husbands, grandfathers...
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..have gone.
504
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,280
The Skull Tower was originally built
right beside
505
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,520
the road, for all to see.
It was designed to instil fear,
506
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,320
suppressing any more thoughts of
an uprising.
507
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,920
But it failed.
508
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,240
Instead, the desire to rid Nis
509
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,160
of Ottoman control
had been galvanised.
510
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,400
In the morning, I leave Nis
for Belgrade,
511
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,640
but with an hour of daylight left,
512
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,160
I've come back to Nis Fortress.
513
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,720
Like all Ottoman territories,
514
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,480
Nis was ultimately ruled by
the sultan.
515
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,520
Beneath him in the hierarchy,
were the Grand Viziers,
516
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,360
then Governors
and then an elite force known as
517
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,520
the Janissaries.
518
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,800
Janissaries were similar to
519
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,600
the slave soldiers of
the Roman Empire.
520
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,600
Many of them here in Nis would have
been Serbs,
521
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,840
keeping watch on their own people.
522
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,800
So this,
523
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,080
hidden away in the Nis Fortress, is
the Bali Bey mosque,
524
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,480
and it was ordered to be built in
525
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,840
the 16th century by Balia,
526
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,280
who was Janissary commander.
527
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,440
Now the Janissaries were absolutely
crucial to
528
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,240
the Ottomans keeping control
of their vast empire.
529
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,440
They were an elite fighting force
530
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,840
and a particular stratum of society
531
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,440
and they were
532
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,480
the children who were taken from
non-Muslim families,
533
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,840
children taken and then brought up
as Muslims
534
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,880
and trained to join this
military force
535
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,800
and then deployed all across
the empire.
536
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,360
But over time they became powerful
in their own right. They even started
537
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,720
to vie for power with
the sultan himself.
538
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,440
Nis was eventually liberated from
539
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,560
Ottoman control in 1878.
540
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,320
Tomorrow I head to
the capital Belgrade
541
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,680
to find out how post-Ottoman Serbia
began to take shape
542
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:50,320
and how changing the Serbian language
543
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,480
would play a significant role.
544
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,680
In this European chapter of my
Ottoman adventure,
545
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,680
I'm heading towards the Serbian
capital city.
546
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,000
After arriving in
Sofia on the overnight sleeper train,
547
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,800
and then a journey into
Nis disrupted by engineering works,
548
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,280
I am hoping to take
a normal train ride.
549
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,760
I'm heading 150 miles northwest on
a train that likes
550
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,960
to stop at every station.
551
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,320
This train stops a lot.
552
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,440
There all these small villages and
towns...
553
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,160
..scattered along
554
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,280
the line in this amazing
green countryside.
555
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,200
Is it stopping? I don't know.
556
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,560
Ooh, it might be.
557
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,000
Yes, it is.
There's a little platform.
558
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Off we go again.
559
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,880
They'll announce the next station.
560
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,560
I think.
561
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,760
PA: Next station...
562
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,840
This may not be the quickest way
to get from Nis
563
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,360
to Belgrade
564
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,200
but it's a wonderful way
to appreciate
565
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:47,400
the Serbian countryside as we go.
566
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:59,080
Now, in the 15th century much
of this was already in
567
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,160
the possession of
the Ottoman empire under Mehmed II,
568
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,880
the conqueror who took Istanbul,
569
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,120
and also pushed
570
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,720
the empire further into south
east Europe.
571
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,440
This whole area was known as Rumelia.
572
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,440
The land that had been taken from
the Byzantine empire,
573
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,800
the Roman lands,
574
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,520
the lands where orthodox
Christians lived.
575
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,840
But Mehmed II never managed
576
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,120
to take Belgrade that was still held
by the Hungarians.
577
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,880
It would be one of his successors,
Suleiman the Magnificent,
578
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,400
in the 16th century who would
finally capture that city.
579
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,440
And I've been reading about all of
580
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,440
the politics in Europe at
the time, which was in turmoil.
581
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,200
There were these shifting alliances
between Frances I of France,
582
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:50,120
Charles V, the Holy Roman Emperor.
583
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,960
Henry VIII got involved from time to
time.
584
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,280
And a lot of land in Europe was up
for grabs.
585
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,000
Suleiman the Magnificent spotted his
chance while there was all this
586
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,840
turmoil going on
and finally captured Belgrade
587
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,320
and then actually carried on going
into the kingdom of Hungary.
588
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,000
Belgrade,
or Beograd to give it its real name,
589
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,160
means white city.
590
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,480
It's a name taken from
591
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,080
the white fortress that has
guarded the city
592
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,240
for over 2,000 years.
593
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,120
The Ottomans seized Belgrade from
594
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,760
the Kingdom of Hungary in 1521...
595
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,560
..and apart from a 20 year period in
596
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,080
the mid 18th century,
they ruled here for over 350 years.
597
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,560
The 19th century saw Serbia
gradually extracting itself from
598
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,600
the Ottoman Empire.
599
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,600
By the end of the century it was
recognised as
600
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,800
a completely independent state.
601
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,760
It was in 1867 that
602
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,160
the last Ottoman troops were
expelled from the fortress
603
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,120
and after that all of the mosques in
604
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,400
the city were destroyed apart from
one.
605
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,880
This one.
606
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,680
There were 273 mosques in
Belgrade during
607
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:27,360
the Ottoman period.
608
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,000
When Serbia extracted itself from
the empire
609
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,520
the Minister of Education
610
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,000
and Church Affairs selected
the Bajrakli Mosque
611
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,760
to be preserved for Muslims coming
612
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,000
to Belgrade on business.
613
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,880
All the other mosques were destroyed.
614
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,520
This one is a classic design.
615
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,640
A dome sits on a square block,
616
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,520
it has a honeycombed mihrab
617
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,480
for praying towards Mecca
and a balcony for the women.
618
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,400
One of the few other surviving
Ottoman buildings in
619
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,320
the city is tucked away,
620
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,440
squeezed in between shops and cafes.
621
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,840
Originally a family home,
then a school,
622
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,840
it is now a museum.
623
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,160
And It is dedicated
to two men who represent
624
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,640
the spread of Enlightenment in
a post-Ottoman Serbia.
625
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,520
Hello. Deyna and Marina,
really, really lovely to meet you.
626
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,680
Welcome to the museum.
627
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,560
I'll just pop my bag down there,
shall I? OK.
628
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,200
The museum is a key venue
for Serbian school visits.
629
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:49,760
This section is dedicated
to Dositej Obradovic.
630
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,840
That's him, presumably. Yes.
631
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,400
One of the most important portraits
of Dositej
632
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,200
and you will see a lot of books.
633
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,480
He's very proud of his pile
of books, though, isn't he? Yes.
634
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,200
He dedicated his whole life
to books.
635
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:08,360
Under centuries of Ottoman rule
636
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,360
the spoken Serbian language
had evolved,
637
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,080
but written Serbian
with elements of Greek and Russian,
638
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,520
remained somewhat stuck in the past.
639
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,920
Many ordinary Serbs couldn't even
read and understand it.
640
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,040
Dositej wanted to change that.
641
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,120
So he was, presumably then,
642
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,080
starting to write down
the spoken language.
643
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,200
Yes, that's right he wanted
to make peace
644
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:34,920
with those differences
between official
645
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,800
and family or spoken language.
646
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,320
Dositej himself moved a lot, he
travelled quite a bit...
647
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,160
You can see it on the map.
648
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,480
We can see it on the map. You can
see all the dots where he travelled
649
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,200
and all these places was his home.
650
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,720
And he learned 11 foreign
languages.
651
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,120
When he came back he had this final
idea of what he wanted to do.
652
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,400
So is he bringing the enlightenment
to Serbia? Yes. That's right.
653
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,320
He's the first representative
of enlightenment in Serbia.
654
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,680
Dositej learned on foot
655
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:11,000
and he had a chance to see
the future centuries.
656
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,400
So he was a visionary man as well.
657
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,240
What a brilliant saying,
say it again.
658
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,000
It was his saying.
659
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,600
So you learn by travelling
660
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,000
and you have a vision of the future.
661
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,880
Yes, that's right. That's
right. Amazing.
662
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,720
The other visionary remembered here
is Vuk Karadzic.
663
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:33,760
And what does Vuk mean? Does that
mean anything?
664
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,480
It's a wolf. Wolf?
665
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,720
Yes. Great name, great name.
666
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,360
Where Dositej formed
a contemporary Serbian language,
667
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,520
Vuk created a new Serbian alphabet.
668
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,800
These are his private objects from
his studio, his office.
669
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,440
Vuk's personal possessions here
include his prosthetic leg,
670
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:04,720
his trademark Fez hat
and several portraits and busts.
671
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,800
This portrait is put on contemporary
Serbian money.
672
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,120
So we have this portrait on
ten Dinars.
673
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,640
Oh, yes, there he is.
674
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,880
Young wolf.
675
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,680
Demonstrating how important he is.
676
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:25,920
That's right. I'd better give you
back that ten Dinars.
677
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,560
Thank you.
678
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,600
What was his career?
Was he an educator?
679
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,080
What did he do that was so important?
680
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,800
So one of the reasons we are
so proud of him
681
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,960
and all the kids know about him,
682
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,880
is because he reformed finally our
language.
683
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,320
So it's very easy. We have 30
letters,
684
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,360
you read as is written, so we don't
have double letters,
685
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,360
we don't have letters that you don't
read.
686
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,680
So it's very easy when you go to
the school
687
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:56,800
and you need to learn the letters.
It's very, very easy.
688
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,520
So you don't have what we have
in English
689
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,800
where you have consonants
modifying the sounds of vowels?
690
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,040
No, fought all that and he made this
perfect system
691
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,400
of 30 sounds in our language
692
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,320
and, in our speaking, and 30
symbols. So 30 letters.
693
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,800
And was there resistance to that?
694
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,840
Yes. Of course.
695
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,880
Of course. He had supporters,
he had opponents as well.
696
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,520
And one of the biggest protestors
was the church.
697
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,800
Oh, really? Of course.
698
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,440
Yeah, because he wanted to transform
the official language of the church,
699
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,480
so it's really interfering with
the job of the church.
700
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,280
I mean, he was obviously successful
701
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:37,000
because the written language
of Serbian today is
702
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,000
the language he created.
703
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,520
That's right.
It was a lifetime struggle.
704
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,640
He was really stubborn
with his work
705
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,360
and he never wanted to give up.
706
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,200
It's happening at an interesting
time, cos it's obviously happening
707
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:54,480
at the same time that Serbia is
removing itself from
708
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,080
the sphere of influence of
the Ottoman Empire.
709
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:03,720
Is it bound up with that? Is it bound
up with ideas of Serbian identity?
710
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,520
It is. He didn't fight on
the battlefield as
711
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,280
the rest of his generation.
His fight was something else.
712
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,600
Yeah. Yeah.
713
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,920
The museum is a hidden gem
in Belgrade's city centre.
714
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,520
As I head to the Kalemegdan Fort at
the edge of the city,
715
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,360
I'm struck by the lingering
influence of
716
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,400
Ottoman centuries here.
717
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,480
The after effects came
to a head in the 1980s with
718
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,160
the Kosovo war which was rooted in
719
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,720
the expulsion of Muslims from
post-Ottoman Serbia
720
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,000
a hundred years earlier.
721
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,520
On the final leg
of my journey, I'll be travelling
722
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,920
to Romania and then Hungary,
723
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,000
the western-most limit of the empire.
724
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,240
This fortress, the Kalemegdan
Fortress,
725
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,840
it dominates Belgrade today.
726
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,360
It's absolutely massive
727
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,240
and it's in this really imposing
position in
728
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,320
the landscape at
the confluence of the Sava
729
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,720
and the Danube rivers.
730
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,440
So Belgrade and its fortress really
are protecting this gateway to
731
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,960
the rest of Europe.
732
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,760
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