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[Monitor
continues beeping]
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[Anzilotti] This is
Richard Cottingham.
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By all accounts,
he's dying.
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Personally, I think he's
like a cockroach and
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he just lives forever.
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In the world of
serial killers,
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I would rank
Richard Cottingham
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up there with the
worst of them.
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[Reporter] ...firemen were
the first to arrive on the
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scene at about
9:30 this morning.
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Two women were
found decapitated,
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with their hands
cut off as well.
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It could be up to 100
women that he's killed...
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New Jersey,
and beyond.
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He's flown under the
radar all this time...
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because he's not given up
all of his crimes.
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After 18 years of time
with this savage...
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I've been able to get a
number of confessions.
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It was a flat-out negotiation.
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He's the king of all deals.
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It's all about, "What
are you gonna do for me?"
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That was a big thing
for him, control.
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My game with him was to
get him to confess...
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To bring a measure
of peace and
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closure to the
victims' families.
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Their minds,
over these decades,
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race with theories and
race with suspects,
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some of whom were in
their own families.
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They want to know
what happened.
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Richard Cottingham is
responsible for a lot more.
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I was not done with him.
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You can take all the serial
killers there's ever been.
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There's not been
one like me.
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In the year 2000,
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I was assigned a
series of cold cases.
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The majority of them were
from 1974 through 1965.
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When I pulled the cases,
the evidence officer
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gives me boxes and
boxes and boxes...
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Report after report,
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lab results after
lab results,
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crime scene photo after
crime scene photo.
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I was pretty much the new guy
in the homicide squad and,
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this was an overwhelming
and daunting task...
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for somebody that
was kind of
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green around the gills.
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What I didn't know when I
first started digging through
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those files was that it would
ignite a fire inside of me.
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There were twelve cases.
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There were a number
of girls that were
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either last seen
hitchhiking...
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or had been picked up
by a stranger.
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Ultimately, raped
and then murdered,
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dumped in and around
Bergen County.
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Bergen County is situated
in the northern part of
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New Jersey, and it is just
across the Hudson River
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from New York City.
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The whole community
was in shock.
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Kids stopped walking
home from school.
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All these girls were
innocent.
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Innocent kids.
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You know, they had a
life ahead of them.
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There were a lot of theories.
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They never found who did it.
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And it went on
for a long time.
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Everybody was a suspect.
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Even back in the
beginning days...
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the priest of the
church was a suspect.
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It never seemed
to go anywhere.
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Guy going around killing
girls from Bergen County,
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you figure somebody
knew something.
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My life changed immediately.
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I had no more sister.
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My family wanted answers.
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Who, where, when, why?
We had no idea.
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You go from one as
young as 13, and then,
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you know, one as old
as 29 years old.
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They're wildly different
in some aspects
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of their victimology.
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At the time, the community of
Bergen County is just really
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on edge, and the police
are just all-in trying to
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figure out if there's
any commonalities
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between these killings.
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They're not finding any.
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They had several
main suspects...
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who may or may not
have been involved.
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There was a convicted
rapist, Raymond Alves.
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He claimed he'd
killed 15 women,
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and he was up for parole.
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There was Robert Reldan,
a former honor student
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who had been
involved in rapes.
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Another suspect
was Joe Kallinger,
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who was known as 'The
Shoemaker' for a knife that
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he used in a murder
spree in three states,
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which ended in
Bergen County...
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with the death of a nurse.
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I went through all
these suspects.
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I flew all over the
country following leads.
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And they all went nowhere.
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The one name that I
couldn't eliminate
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was Richard Cottingham.
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Richard Cottingham
In 1980,
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had been convicted of
killing five women.
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Three were in
New York City,
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two were in Bergen County.
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Those killings in
Times Square dubbed him
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'The Torso Killer' by the
New York media.
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Because several of
the victims had
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their heads cut off,
their hands cut off,
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and the room lit on fire.
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He ultimately got caught
in Bergen County
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trying to rape and kill
another woman...
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at a local motel in Hasbrouck
Heights, New Jersey.
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[News] Cottingham is being
held in a jail adjacent to
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the Bergen County Courthouse.
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He was originally charged
with aggravated sexual
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assault and attempted murder
of a woman thought to be
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a prostitute on May 22nd,
in a Jersey motel.
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[Anzilotti] Of these 12
cold case homicides that
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I'm investigating,
some of them were
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all centered
around this area.
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Cottingham was incarcerated
since his arrest in 1980.
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In the years that followed,
some NYPD detectives,
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as well as Bergen County
detectives attempted to
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gain his cooperation in
unsolved murders.
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Unfortunately, it never
materialized into anything.
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Everything I knew about him
at that point was
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focused in the late 70s,
up until 1980.
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Had no idea if he could
have been operating
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in the 60s or early 70s.
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But certainly,
it was a possibility
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just based on his age.
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So, he was always just
lingering in the back of
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my head as like, hey, one day,
I gotta get to this guy
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Cottingham and see if he's
good for any of these.
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In 2003, I got
promoted to sergeant,
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and that's when I moved on
to the street crimes unit.
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It was known as the Special
Investigations Squad.
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And as a sergeant,
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I was responsible for a
number of detectives.
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We were putting together
really big cases.
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But in between there,
I made sure I always
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found the time for my
cold case work.
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There was many a
Sunday night
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where I'd put the
kids to bed and,
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I would take an A to Z file
full of reports and
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crime scene photos...
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and just pour a glass of
wine at my dining room table
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and just...
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spend hours poring over
the cases and taking notes,
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just on my own time.
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Doing these cold cases was
not my only job or
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my only assignment,
by any stretch.
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You've got a whole bunch of
cases that you're assigned to.
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You've got other homicides,
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you've got active organized
crime investigations.
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Yet, you had to find time to
work the cold cases
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because we never,
ever close them.
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Never.
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[Anzilotti]
Having daughters...
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and then investigating the
rapes and murders of these
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young girls, as teenagers,
really hit home for me.
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And I wanted to give
these families
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some sense of justice.
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I just grew so attached
to these cases.
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I knew them inside and out.
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I had been studying
them for years,
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kind of on a
part-time basis,
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and got very
passionate about it.
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But I wasn't
making any inroads,
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and that really
just nagged at me.
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I never wanted
to forget them,
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I never wanted to
give up on them.
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In just researching some
different suspects...
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the name Richard Cottingham
kept coming up again.
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I was aware that other
detectives before me had
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tried to speak to Cottingham,
and he never cooperated.
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How am I going to get this
guy Cottingham to talk to me?
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By sheer coincidence,
Cottingham was housed in the
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same prison, on the same
wing with 'The Iceman'.
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Besides these 12 cold cases
involving young females,
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I was also looking
into a number of
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other cold case homicides...
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some of which involved
mob-style hits.
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This led me to Richard
'The Iceman' Kuklinski.
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The Iceman was at that time
incarcerated for
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a number of homicides
that he had committed
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in and around Bergen County.
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He purported himself to
be a hitman for the mob.
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He was very boastful
about his killings,
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and his ties to the mafia.
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It is New Jersey, and
we're certainly well-known,
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especially back then, for our
traditional organized crime.
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The typical La Cosa Nostra,
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Soprano-style
organized crime cases:
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loansharking,
illegal gambling,
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extortion, prostitution.
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Kuklinski got the nickname
'The Iceman'
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because he actually
killed somebody,
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put them in a freezer to
try and change the body
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temperature to fool
the medical examiner.
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Well, he got caught
eventually for it so,
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I don't know how
much it worked, but...
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All these guys think
they're so ----ing smart.
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I spent hundreds
of hours with him.
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I'd have him transported
up from the prison.
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He'd stay at the
Bergen County Jail.
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Eventually,
I developed a
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relationship with him.
really good
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He began to trust me enough
that I got a number of
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unsolved homicides
out of him.
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Rob built such a relationship
with Kuklinski that
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Kuklinski became
Rob's informant...
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on anything that Kuklinski
could come up with.
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I figured this might be a
way to get to Cottingham.
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One particular interview,
I bring up his name.
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And I'm like, "Hey, do you
know this guy, Cottingham?"
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And Kuklinski had the most,
just vile reaction,
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and he just was like,
"I hate that scumbag."
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And he's like,
"What kind of an animal
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does these things to women?"
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Richard Kuklinski,
known as 'The Iceman',
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was housed in
New Jersey State Prison.
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The Iceman is probably
one of the most foreboding
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individuals I've ever
seen in my life.
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He was like 6"8,
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just a huge human being.
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He had a hair-trigger temper.
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This is unwarranted.
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Unnecessary.
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These guys watch
too many movies.
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He could be a
really scary dude.
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The strange twist to my
relationship with The Iceman
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is that during our
conversations...
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when I asked Kuklinski
about Cottingham,
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it became quickly evident
that he despised Cottingham.
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To kind of get this from
this big, giant of a,
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of a guy who kills people,
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and now he's got his
own moral code
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where he's disgusted by
this other killer.
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So, he began to cooperate
with me and kind of
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give me some dirt
on Cottingham.
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Turns out- Kuklinski
explains to me-
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Cottingham ran an
illegal gambling operation
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within the prison.
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So, he used to run like, like
football and baseball and
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all sorts of gambling through
these tickets, right?
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Like, like an illegal lottery.
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And I decided that
that would be my in.
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In early 2004,
the Super Bowl
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that year was in
Houston, Texas.
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I'd never been
to a Super Bowl.
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I thought it'd be really
cool if me and my dad
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took the trip out there,
and took in the game.
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I had amazing seats.
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The only thing that detracted
from my Super Bowl experience
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was the anxiousness
and the anxiety...
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wondering whether
this plan that I had
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was actually
going to work.
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Having years of
prior experience
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in the Organized
Crime Squad,
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investigating
illegal gambling,
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doing undercover work,
purporting to be a bookmaker,
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I understand there's no
crazier gambling day
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than Super Bowl Sunday.
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In the weeks that led up
to that Super Bowl Sunday,
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I made all the
arrangements with
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the investigators
at the prison,
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gave them all the
information they needed to...
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enact my plan...
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for Cottingham's cell to be
raided by prison officials
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the morning after
Super Bowl Sunday.
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When they
searched his cell,
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they found evidence
of the gambling operation,
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and Cottingham was
thrown into the hole.
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In the prison system,
'the hole' was
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basically solitary
confinement.
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You were removed
from your cell,
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all your privileges
were revoked.
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You didn't go outside,
you had no fresh air.
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There's no air conditioning.
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The New Jersey prison
at the time was old and,
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it was not fun.
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Several days later,
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I go down to the prison
with my partner.
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They pull him
out of the hole,
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and bring him to
an interview room.
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00:16:39,498 --> 00:16:43,005
I see this nearly
60-year-old guy,
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long white beard...
belly.
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Looking like a Santa Claus
with a really bad hangover.
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00:16:51,321 --> 00:16:53,026
You know, his eyes
were bloodshot.
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He's dripping in sweat.
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And I just looked
at him and told him,
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00:16:58,035 --> 00:16:59,404
"I'm the reason
you're in there."
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He looked at me with
some pretty wild eyes.
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00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:09,091
And I didn't even give him
a chance to respond and was
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00:17:09,157 --> 00:17:11,328
just like, "I am going to
make your life a living hell
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unless we have
a conversation."
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He, of course, did not
confess to anything.
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Didn't agree to anything.
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00:17:36,312 --> 00:17:38,483
The only thing he
would agree to is...
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that he would be willing
to have continued
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00:17:41,355 --> 00:17:43,827
conversations with me
on one condition.
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00:17:44,027 --> 00:17:45,463
And that condition was,
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if I ever tried to mess
with him again like this,
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00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:49,204
our relationship
would be over.
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00:17:51,509 --> 00:17:53,680
Thankfully, my gut
intuition told me
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that he wasn't bluffing,
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00:17:56,251 --> 00:17:58,523
and that the right move
was to just try and
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00:17:58,556 --> 00:18:03,399
begin to schmooze him and
begin to develop a trust.
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I needed to
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00:18:05,135 --> 00:18:07,173
take a different tact than
that initial approach.
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00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,512
That the tough guy routine
wasn't going to work with him.
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00:18:19,264 --> 00:18:23,305
I started with Richard
Cottingham in early 2004.
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I had no idea what cases he
might be responsible for.
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It was just a feeling
that maybe he was
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00:18:28,082 --> 00:18:30,253
responsible for
some of them.
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I was visiting him
at the prison.
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I just told him, "Hey, I think
you committed crimes
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long before you
were arrested."
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I spent a lot of time with
him to try and build a
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00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,444
relationship, but he refused
to talk about anything new.
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00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:40,325
Anzilotti understood he was
in it for the long game.
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00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,134
And that means he's going to
spend a lot of time and
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00:19:44,234 --> 00:19:48,141
come away with nothing,
time after time after time.
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But, if he played it right
and he stayed vigilant
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00:19:51,683 --> 00:19:54,220
for the weak spots,
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00:19:54,253 --> 00:19:56,124
the openings...
328
00:19:56,224 --> 00:19:58,597
he would be able
to get information.
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00:20:01,134 --> 00:20:03,472
And it's difficult to...
330
00:20:03,506 --> 00:20:05,443
spend hours with someone
and feel like
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00:20:05,476 --> 00:20:07,113
you're not
accomplishing anything.
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00:20:07,213 --> 00:20:11,221
But like water dropping
on a rock, okay...
333
00:20:11,288 --> 00:20:14,394
eventually the rock begins
to smooth out and change.
334
00:20:14,428 --> 00:20:17,601
You're going to crack it.
335
00:20:17,635 --> 00:20:21,375
Rob was persistent,
he never gave up.
336
00:20:21,408 --> 00:20:23,680
Rob Anzilotti was
handpicked because of
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00:20:23,714 --> 00:20:27,888
who Rob Anzilotti was.
He was just a great cop.
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00:20:32,698 --> 00:20:35,303
I did not always
want to be a cop.
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00:20:35,369 --> 00:20:39,645
I was kind of a, you know,
confused, mixed up teenager.
340
00:20:39,678 --> 00:20:42,350
I didn't know what the
hell I wanted to do.
341
00:20:42,384 --> 00:20:44,588
My mom was a nurse.
342
00:20:44,622 --> 00:20:47,794
I always kind of just had a
thing about helping people.
343
00:20:47,828 --> 00:20:50,567
So, I became a paramedic.
344
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,436
Worked in Newark
for a while.
345
00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:54,775
It was during the crack
epidemic, very violent city.
346
00:20:54,809 --> 00:20:57,715
Saw a lot of,
lot of crazy stuff.
347
00:20:57,748 --> 00:20:59,484
That's what brought me
to law enforcement,
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00:20:59,518 --> 00:21:01,856
just seeing how hard the
cops worked and
349
00:21:01,889 --> 00:21:03,392
what they had to deal with.
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00:21:03,425 --> 00:21:05,764
I loved it from the minute
I put the uniform on.
351
00:21:07,868 --> 00:21:10,574
That same passion that I felt
when I first put the uniform
352
00:21:10,607 --> 00:21:13,078
on was only amplified
and magnified
353
00:21:13,245 --> 00:21:15,415
when I became a detective.
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00:21:15,449 --> 00:21:16,685
In 2004, I was a
sergeant in the
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00:21:16,719 --> 00:21:19,291
Special
Investigations Squad.
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00:21:19,357 --> 00:21:21,428
The new chief formed that
squad and hand-picked
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00:21:21,461 --> 00:21:23,633
the people that
go into it.
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00:21:23,666 --> 00:21:25,937
I was given a lot
of leeway to do...
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00:21:25,971 --> 00:21:27,774
whatever I felt,
without anyone
360
00:21:27,808 --> 00:21:30,580
interrupting me dealing
with Cottingham.
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00:21:32,751 --> 00:21:34,822
Once I was talking to
Richard Cottingham
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00:21:34,855 --> 00:21:36,659
for those early months,
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00:21:36,692 --> 00:21:39,497
he would give me
absolutely nothing.
364
00:21:39,531 --> 00:21:41,569
It was worse than
pulling teeth,
365
00:21:41,602 --> 00:21:44,575
it was like just hitting
a brick wall all the time.
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00:21:44,609 --> 00:21:46,311
There was no way
for me to let it go,
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00:21:46,378 --> 00:21:48,550
because at some point,
to let it go
368
00:21:48,583 --> 00:21:50,352
would be a complete failure,
369
00:21:50,385 --> 00:21:52,524
and I couldn't
accept failure.
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00:21:52,557 --> 00:21:55,697
I really saw these baby steps
as an opportunity to get
371
00:21:55,730 --> 00:21:59,403
where I needed to go
with these 12 cold cases.
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00:21:59,437 --> 00:22:01,542
The best way to
get there was
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00:22:01,575 --> 00:22:03,479
to just get him talking
all the time,
374
00:22:03,513 --> 00:22:06,418
and he grew comfortable
talking about crimes
375
00:22:06,485 --> 00:22:08,589
that the world knew he
committed already,
376
00:22:08,623 --> 00:22:12,731
crimes he went to trial on,
crimes he was convicted of.
377
00:22:12,764 --> 00:22:16,673
Prior to his arrest, he went
on this murderous...
378
00:22:16,706 --> 00:22:20,045
frenzy, in just a
handful of weeks,
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00:22:20,078 --> 00:22:21,849
when he was hunting
prostitutes.
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00:22:49,672 --> 00:22:52,511
I was on routine
patrol that morning.
381
00:22:53,846 --> 00:22:57,486
And then, that first call
on the radio came through.
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00:22:59,625 --> 00:23:02,530
"Go down to the Quality Inn.
383
00:23:02,564 --> 00:23:04,802
There's a report of a
woman screaming in a room."
384
00:23:06,906 --> 00:23:09,778
As I pulled into the
motel parking lot,
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00:23:09,812 --> 00:23:12,885
there was a man
waving frantically.
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00:23:12,918 --> 00:23:15,857
He says, "There's
a man with a gun."
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00:23:15,891 --> 00:23:19,531
♪ [Suspenseful] ♪
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00:23:23,372 --> 00:23:25,810
We received a radio message
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00:23:25,844 --> 00:23:29,918
about a woman screaming
at the Quality Motel...
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00:23:29,952 --> 00:23:32,825
in Hasbrouck Heights,
on route 17.
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00:23:35,429 --> 00:23:37,802
When I came into
the small lobby,
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00:23:37,835 --> 00:23:40,439
down the hallway from
around the corner,
393
00:23:40,506 --> 00:23:43,646
I saw a man
running towards me.
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00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,552
He was carrying a satchel,
395
00:23:46,585 --> 00:23:48,690
and he had a gun.
396
00:23:48,723 --> 00:23:50,794
As he rounded the corner...
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00:23:50,827 --> 00:23:53,866
I yelled,
"Stop, don't move!"
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00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:58,241
He stopped approximately
one inch from the barrel.
399
00:23:58,408 --> 00:24:00,814
Had he moved his right hand,
400
00:24:00,847 --> 00:24:02,618
I would have pulled
the trigger.
401
00:24:02,651 --> 00:24:04,822
There was no ifs,
ands, or buts.
402
00:24:04,855 --> 00:24:08,261
He dropped all his
parcels on the ground.
403
00:24:08,428 --> 00:24:10,867
He says, "I didn't
do anything.
404
00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:14,307
I was with a hooker
and got scared."
405
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,612
His name was
Richard Cottingham.
406
00:24:20,687 --> 00:24:23,693
Inside the room,
they found a young female
407
00:24:23,726 --> 00:24:27,735
identified as Leslie O'Dell.
408
00:24:27,768 --> 00:24:31,809
Leslie O'Dell was naked.
409
00:24:31,842 --> 00:24:36,051
She had handcuffs
on her ankles.
410
00:24:36,084 --> 00:24:38,756
She recounted a story about
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00:24:38,790 --> 00:24:41,595
how she had met
a male in New York,
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00:24:41,629 --> 00:24:45,803
and he had taken
her to the motel.
413
00:24:45,837 --> 00:24:48,910
Leslie O'Dell was working
as a streetwalker
414
00:24:48,943 --> 00:24:50,780
in New York City.
415
00:24:50,814 --> 00:24:53,786
Cottingham was able to
convince her to come with him
416
00:24:53,819 --> 00:24:55,723
under the promise that he
would give her money so
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00:24:55,757 --> 00:24:59,497
she could get out of the
prostitution business.
418
00:24:59,565 --> 00:25:01,134
So, she got into the
car with Cottingham,
419
00:25:01,167 --> 00:25:03,104
they went to New Jersey.
420
00:25:05,409 --> 00:25:09,952
Next thing you know, they end
up in the Quality Inn Motel.
421
00:25:09,986 --> 00:25:12,758
What started out as a
simple sexual encounter
422
00:25:12,791 --> 00:25:16,364
suddenly escalated with
bondage and torture.
423
00:25:19,103 --> 00:25:21,374
He was just beginning.
424
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,588
He handcuffed her on
her ankles because
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00:25:27,655 --> 00:25:30,794
he was afraid she was
going to escape.
426
00:25:30,827 --> 00:25:33,733
She had adhesive
tape on her mouth.
427
00:25:36,071 --> 00:25:39,512
He cut her in the
area of her breasts,
428
00:25:39,578 --> 00:25:42,016
burned her with a cigarette...
429
00:25:42,049 --> 00:25:44,955
sodomized her.
430
00:25:44,988 --> 00:25:48,328
At some point, he decides
he wants a tongue bath,
431
00:25:48,428 --> 00:25:51,603
which means he wants her to
lick him all over his body.
432
00:25:51,636 --> 00:25:52,937
But in order to do that,
433
00:25:52,971 --> 00:25:56,077
he has to take the tape
off her mouth.
434
00:25:56,110 --> 00:25:59,684
She saw an opportunity,
she lets out a scream.
435
00:26:04,895 --> 00:26:06,766
[Knocking]
436
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,636
Richard Cottingham is
standing behind
437
00:26:08,703 --> 00:26:10,774
Leslie O'Dell with a
knife to her back:
438
00:26:10,807 --> 00:26:14,582
"Tell her
everything's okay."
439
00:26:14,648 --> 00:26:18,488
"Is everything okay?"
"Yes."
440
00:26:18,589 --> 00:26:21,061
At this point, he realizes
the jig is up.
441
00:26:23,666 --> 00:26:26,505
Everything begins to collapse.
442
00:26:26,605 --> 00:26:28,776
Richard Cottingham's
going to be under arrest.
443
00:26:31,682 --> 00:26:33,719
And now they have
a living witness.
444
00:26:38,796 --> 00:26:41,669
After Leslie Ann O'Dell
is rescued by the police,
445
00:26:41,702 --> 00:26:43,639
they find a number of things.
446
00:26:43,672 --> 00:26:45,644
They find a bottle of whiskey.
447
00:26:45,711 --> 00:26:47,915
And he was known to
be a big drinker.
448
00:26:47,948 --> 00:26:50,587
And encouraged his
victims to drink.
449
00:26:50,654 --> 00:26:53,626
He would use drugs
to drug his victims,
450
00:26:53,693 --> 00:26:55,797
barbiturates and other
downers, so to speak,
451
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:58,703
to kind of relax them,
and then get them to pass out.
452
00:26:58,737 --> 00:27:00,807
You know, clearly,
this is a mouth gag.
453
00:27:00,841 --> 00:27:03,145
Put it in, he would put
it in somebody's mouth,
454
00:27:03,178 --> 00:27:05,049
tie the collar around.
455
00:27:05,082 --> 00:27:07,788
And, that would be a
way to keep them silent.
456
00:27:07,821 --> 00:27:09,591
These chokers that I
assume he would put on
457
00:27:09,658 --> 00:27:10,894
his victim's neck.
458
00:27:10,927 --> 00:27:12,797
So, these two
pair of handcuffs.
459
00:27:12,831 --> 00:27:15,035
I have two daughters
and, and for me,
460
00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:17,907
it comes to like I just
couldn't fathom, you know,
461
00:27:17,941 --> 00:27:20,780
having one of my loved ones,
one of my daughters...
462
00:27:20,813 --> 00:27:22,651
be brutally attacked
like this by an animal.
463
00:27:22,684 --> 00:27:24,087
He's got kids.
464
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,728
He's got a girl, he has a
wife that he didn't abuse,
465
00:27:27,761 --> 00:27:29,063
as far as I know.
466
00:27:29,096 --> 00:27:31,535
And yet, look at what he's
doing to total strangers.
467
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:33,071
I think he thought
he was untouchable.
468
00:27:37,681 --> 00:27:39,184
Having looked at the
crime scene photos
469
00:27:39,217 --> 00:27:40,820
of Leslie Ann O'Dell,
470
00:27:40,854 --> 00:27:43,124
there were some similarities
to some of the unsolved
471
00:27:43,158 --> 00:27:45,964
cold cases that I had
been looking at.
472
00:27:45,997 --> 00:27:49,303
Some of the victims of these
cold cases had ligature marks
473
00:27:49,337 --> 00:27:51,374
on their ankles,
on their wrists.
474
00:27:51,575 --> 00:27:54,815
Some were found tied up.
475
00:27:54,848 --> 00:27:57,119
By letting him just
talk and ramble,
476
00:27:57,152 --> 00:28:00,727
I'm learning what
makes him tick...
477
00:28:00,794 --> 00:28:02,396
and that was really,
really important
478
00:28:02,597 --> 00:28:04,868
in those early years.
479
00:28:04,901 --> 00:28:06,471
He would talk in
general terms about
480
00:28:06,639 --> 00:28:08,408
what he would
call 'hunting'.
481
00:28:08,441 --> 00:28:10,346
So, I began to
learn about, like,
482
00:28:10,379 --> 00:28:11,982
some of his killing methods.
483
00:28:38,201 --> 00:28:40,740
Does this guy have
a beef with women?
484
00:28:40,807 --> 00:28:43,445
Is there something in
his past that led him
485
00:28:43,478 --> 00:28:45,784
to become this
killer that he is?
486
00:28:45,817 --> 00:28:47,854
I really had no idea.
487
00:28:49,891 --> 00:28:53,833
Richard Cottingham was
a young family man.
488
00:28:53,866 --> 00:28:57,707
He lived in Lodi,
New Jersey.
489
00:28:57,774 --> 00:29:00,179
A wife, three children...
490
00:29:00,212 --> 00:29:03,986
had a good job in the
computer division of
491
00:29:04,020 --> 00:29:07,728
Blue Cross Blue Shield
in New York.
492
00:29:07,794 --> 00:29:12,136
He was a smart individual,
but very manipulative.
493
00:29:14,107 --> 00:29:17,045
His parents were
decent people.
494
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:20,018
He didn't come
from a bad home.
495
00:29:20,052 --> 00:29:23,258
He comes from a
Catholic background.
496
00:29:23,291 --> 00:29:24,293
He's always told me that
497
00:29:24,327 --> 00:29:26,063
he's not your typical
serial killer.
498
00:30:06,177 --> 00:30:08,816
Richard Cottingham
oversimplifies
499
00:30:08,883 --> 00:30:11,321
what it means to be
a serial killer.
500
00:30:11,354 --> 00:30:14,928
And he seems to think that
they all enjoy killing,
501
00:30:14,962 --> 00:30:16,064
and that isn't true.
502
00:30:16,097 --> 00:30:18,969
Only some of them
enjoy killing.
503
00:30:19,003 --> 00:30:22,977
Many of them do exactly
what he did- or said he did-
504
00:30:23,011 --> 00:30:26,986
which is to torture someone,
and then
505
00:30:27,019 --> 00:30:29,157
remove the witness...
506
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:31,962
and that is a lot
of serial killers.
507
00:30:31,995 --> 00:30:33,966
He fits that.
508
00:31:04,026 --> 00:31:06,532
Because of the way that
509
00:31:06,565 --> 00:31:11,074
Leslie O'Dell was abused...
510
00:31:11,107 --> 00:31:14,848
made us suspect immediately
511
00:31:14,914 --> 00:31:17,052
that there was
a connection to
512
00:31:17,085 --> 00:31:20,058
a number of
unsolved homicides
513
00:31:20,092 --> 00:31:23,197
that occurred at
the same motel.
514
00:31:35,021 --> 00:31:39,196
A maid cleaning room 132,
while she's vacuuming,
515
00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:42,369
bumps into something
under the bed.
516
00:31:42,403 --> 00:31:45,042
She looks under the bed,
she lets out a scream.
517
00:31:56,464 --> 00:31:58,468
On May 22nd, 1980,
518
00:31:58,501 --> 00:32:01,875
Cottingham is caught
at the Quality Inn in
519
00:32:01,975 --> 00:32:04,848
Hasbrouck Heights as he
tries to flee the scene...
520
00:32:04,948 --> 00:32:10,025
after attempting to
kill Leslie O'Dell.
521
00:32:10,058 --> 00:32:12,262
Staff had been
totally on high alert,
522
00:32:12,295 --> 00:32:15,903
as had the local police,
because just weeks earlier...
523
00:32:16,003 --> 00:32:19,177
another dead body was found
stuffed under a bed
524
00:32:19,210 --> 00:32:22,316
in that same
Quality Inn Motel.
525
00:32:22,349 --> 00:32:25,523
What the investigators
find is 19-year-old,
526
00:32:25,556 --> 00:32:27,727
Valerie Street...
527
00:32:27,827 --> 00:32:29,865
a known prostitute who had
just recently been arrested
528
00:32:29,932 --> 00:32:31,801
for prostitution offenses.
529
00:32:34,941 --> 00:32:38,181
Valerie Ann Street was naked.
530
00:32:38,214 --> 00:32:40,118
She had what appeared to be
531
00:32:40,152 --> 00:32:44,661
adhesive residue
around her mouth.
532
00:32:44,694 --> 00:32:48,936
She had handcuffs
on her wrists.
533
00:32:49,036 --> 00:32:52,543
There was a latent
fingerprint that was lifted
534
00:32:52,577 --> 00:32:54,113
from the handcuffs,
535
00:32:54,146 --> 00:32:58,355
and that print was retained.
536
00:32:58,388 --> 00:33:01,427
Richard explained to me
that he graduated-
537
00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:02,563
so to speak-
538
00:33:02,596 --> 00:33:07,808
to really focusing on raping
and murdering prostitutes
539
00:33:07,974 --> 00:33:10,946
because he felt
that they were
540
00:33:11,013 --> 00:33:15,489
less accountable in society.
541
00:33:15,523 --> 00:33:18,061
He has a story where,
542
00:33:18,128 --> 00:33:21,100
"Women would do
anything I wanted."
543
00:33:21,134 --> 00:33:23,171
Which just tells you
544
00:33:23,204 --> 00:33:27,446
he would only go for women
that would yield to him-
545
00:33:27,479 --> 00:33:30,318
for money or because they
were young and scared and
546
00:33:30,351 --> 00:33:32,389
didn't know
what else to do.
547
00:33:34,259 --> 00:33:38,101
Because of the similarities
amongst those cases,
548
00:33:38,167 --> 00:33:41,307
we weren't just interested
in what occurred with
549
00:33:41,340 --> 00:33:45,215
O'Dell, we were
interested in other things.
550
00:33:45,248 --> 00:33:49,958
Almost three years before
Valerie Ann Street's murder,
551
00:33:50,058 --> 00:33:53,732
another homicide had
occurred at the Quality Inn.
552
00:33:59,109 --> 00:34:02,149
Maryann Carr was
a young, attractive
553
00:34:02,183 --> 00:34:06,157
x-ray technician...
554
00:34:06,190 --> 00:34:10,164
who lived with her husband
in an apartment
555
00:34:10,198 --> 00:34:13,071
at Ledgewood Terrace
in Little Ferry.
556
00:34:13,137 --> 00:34:17,412
Her husband had been
away on a business trip.
557
00:34:17,446 --> 00:34:19,518
When he attempted to
get a hold of her,
558
00:34:19,551 --> 00:34:21,387
he wasn't able to.
559
00:34:21,420 --> 00:34:23,925
And after several tries
he became concerned.
560
00:34:28,434 --> 00:34:32,009
The next morning,
I was notified
561
00:34:32,109 --> 00:34:36,417
that a body had been
found in the parking area
562
00:34:36,450 --> 00:34:39,757
of the Quality Inn Motel in
Hasbrouck Heights.
563
00:34:47,172 --> 00:34:51,749
Maryann was lying
near the parking area,
564
00:34:51,782 --> 00:34:55,388
next to a chain link fence.
565
00:34:55,421 --> 00:34:59,363
She's wearing her white
x-ray tech uniform.
566
00:34:59,396 --> 00:35:02,402
She is lying and
kind of curled up,
567
00:35:02,435 --> 00:35:04,473
where she obviously
had been dumped.
568
00:35:07,278 --> 00:35:11,120
There are ligature marks
on her hands and her feet.
569
00:35:11,187 --> 00:35:13,525
There are tears
in her uniform.
570
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:15,495
Somebody had sexually
assaulted her and then
571
00:35:15,529 --> 00:35:17,133
redressed her.
572
00:35:17,166 --> 00:35:19,469
She had been strangled.
573
00:35:23,712 --> 00:35:27,587
You know, of my 12 cold cases
involving these young women,
574
00:35:27,621 --> 00:35:29,323
the overwhelming
majority of them were
575
00:35:29,357 --> 00:35:32,429
either strangled
or suffocated.
576
00:35:37,038 --> 00:35:41,113
It was a mystery.
577
00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:44,654
And there was no connection
whatsoever between
578
00:35:44,688 --> 00:35:47,627
Maryann Carr and
Valerie Street...
579
00:35:51,167 --> 00:35:53,805
Until they caught
Richard Cottingham
580
00:35:53,839 --> 00:35:56,376
running from the building.
581
00:35:58,448 --> 00:36:02,790
We compared
Cottingham's fingerprint to
582
00:36:02,824 --> 00:36:04,994
the latent fingerprint on
583
00:36:05,161 --> 00:36:07,567
Valerie Ann Street's
handcuffs.
584
00:36:10,673 --> 00:36:13,411
And it was a homerun.
585
00:36:13,444 --> 00:36:15,415
We knew we had the right guy.
586
00:36:39,263 --> 00:36:42,637
He would not admit
his guilt in any of it.
587
00:36:42,670 --> 00:36:45,274
It was like a game of cat and
mouse between the two of us.
588
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:25,355
You can't feed anything
to them and
589
00:37:25,388 --> 00:37:27,560
put thoughts in their head.
590
00:37:27,593 --> 00:37:30,431
And that's also part of
what this whole
591
00:37:30,465 --> 00:37:32,704
kind of grind is with him
because, you know,
592
00:37:32,737 --> 00:37:34,541
he had no fear in talking
about the things
593
00:37:34,574 --> 00:37:36,176
he was already convicted of,
594
00:37:36,276 --> 00:37:38,549
but he refused to talk
about anything new.
595
00:37:39,784 --> 00:37:42,255
He's not just willing to just
sit there and say to me,
596
00:37:42,322 --> 00:37:45,228
"In 1969, I remember
killing this 15-year-old."
597
00:37:45,295 --> 00:37:47,265
It's not like that with him.
598
00:37:47,332 --> 00:37:48,535
You kind of have to just get
599
00:37:48,569 --> 00:37:52,710
these little bits and
pieces and put it together.
600
00:37:52,743 --> 00:37:56,618
You're getting something,
but you don't want the guy
601
00:37:56,651 --> 00:37:58,521
to know you're
getting something,
602
00:37:58,555 --> 00:38:00,526
because he's trying
to control that
603
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,362
piece of information.
604
00:38:02,429 --> 00:38:04,667
And you have to be
very cool about it...
605
00:38:04,701 --> 00:38:06,638
because he could
shut it down and say,
606
00:38:06,671 --> 00:38:08,575
"That's it,
no more talking."
607
00:38:08,608 --> 00:38:13,652
'Cause he realizes he
just lost leverage.
608
00:38:13,685 --> 00:38:16,557
That's not okay for
someone who needs control.
609
00:38:22,770 --> 00:38:26,778
We executed a search
warrant at his house...
610
00:38:26,812 --> 00:38:30,184
and on his vehicles.
611
00:38:30,318 --> 00:38:34,393
He had a locked room
in the basement.
612
00:38:34,427 --> 00:38:36,798
His wife, Janet,
was asked about that,
613
00:38:36,832 --> 00:38:39,504
and she said, "Yes,
that is his room.
614
00:38:39,537 --> 00:38:42,275
I know nothing about it.
He keeps it locked,
615
00:38:42,342 --> 00:38:44,681
and I'm not
allowed in there."
616
00:38:44,714 --> 00:38:48,354
She was in the process of
filing for divorce from him.
617
00:38:48,421 --> 00:38:50,458
They had trouble
in the marriage.
618
00:39:06,791 --> 00:39:09,631
His wife had said she
was going to leave him and
619
00:39:09,664 --> 00:39:12,335
take his three kids with her.
620
00:39:12,402 --> 00:39:17,513
He blames that for the
reason why he got, "sloppy".
621
00:39:44,801 --> 00:39:46,938
He doesn't want a
divorce, necessarily,
622
00:39:46,971 --> 00:39:51,480
but that he cannot let her be
the one in charge of that...
623
00:39:51,547 --> 00:39:54,888
and she was, she's the one
who made the first move.
624
00:39:54,921 --> 00:39:57,627
Someone who is a
narcissist like he is,
625
00:39:57,660 --> 00:40:00,532
his children are
extensions of himself.
626
00:40:00,565 --> 00:40:02,537
There's an ownership
thing there.
627
00:40:02,570 --> 00:40:05,408
She will not take them.
628
00:40:05,475 --> 00:40:08,682
She will not take the
stability of his life.
629
00:40:13,726 --> 00:40:17,933
Inside that locked room
were a number of items:
630
00:40:17,967 --> 00:40:23,946
money, some
pornography magazines,
631
00:40:23,979 --> 00:40:25,849
women's jewellery,
632
00:40:25,883 --> 00:40:28,855
some articles of
women's clothing.
633
00:40:31,661 --> 00:40:34,400
These were all books that
were found in Cottingham's
634
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:37,707
residence when the detectives
searched his house.
635
00:40:37,740 --> 00:40:42,449
So, like, "Sex Victims:
Stories of Surrender".
636
00:40:42,517 --> 00:40:43,852
There's,
"The Prisoner of the Sheik,"
637
00:40:43,886 --> 00:40:46,991
and a woman tied up
on the cover.
638
00:40:47,025 --> 00:40:49,730
"Tied Up Teasers," with
two women tied to a bed.
639
00:40:52,436 --> 00:40:53,605
"The Boyfriend's Revenge".
640
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:56,009
Two men who look like they're
about to rape a woman.
641
00:40:56,043 --> 00:40:57,847
So, finding these books,
I'm sure the detectives
642
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,584
when they found them
were like,
643
00:40:59,617 --> 00:41:02,624
"Wow, we just
found gold here."
644
00:41:02,657 --> 00:41:05,796
Once Bergen County
connected those cases...
645
00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:07,600
they're going to
find out that
646
00:41:07,633 --> 00:41:10,371
it was much bigger than
they thought it was.
647
00:41:10,471 --> 00:41:12,408
Firemen were the first to
arrive at the scene
648
00:41:12,475 --> 00:41:14,479
at about 9:30 this morning.
649
00:41:14,547 --> 00:41:16,183
They were responding to
a report of a fire in
650
00:41:16,383 --> 00:41:18,822
a west side hotel room.
651
00:41:18,855 --> 00:41:22,095
They find two young,
nude bodies
652
00:41:22,128 --> 00:41:24,600
with no heads and hands.
653
00:41:24,634 --> 00:41:26,938
It was something out
of a horror movie.
654
00:41:41,835 --> 00:41:43,839
The New York City Fire
Department was called to the
655
00:41:43,872 --> 00:41:46,745
Travel Inn Hotel on
West 42nd Street
656
00:41:46,778 --> 00:41:48,782
on a report of a fire.
657
00:41:52,021 --> 00:41:54,392
They went into the room,
they dragged the
658
00:41:54,527 --> 00:41:56,798
body of a nude female
from the room.
659
00:41:59,570 --> 00:42:01,574
Pulled it into the hallway,
was about to give
660
00:42:01,641 --> 00:42:04,480
mouth-to-mouth resuscitation,
but there was no head.
661
00:42:04,548 --> 00:42:09,056
♪ [Suspenseful] ♪
662
00:42:09,089 --> 00:42:11,126
And in an effort to
cover up that homicide,
663
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:14,466
their heads and hands had
been removed and severed and
664
00:42:14,534 --> 00:42:15,636
taken from the scene.
665
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:17,639
To this day,
they've never been found.
666
00:42:20,011 --> 00:42:23,618
There were marks on their
legs, arm, back, buttocks,
667
00:42:23,652 --> 00:42:25,989
incised marks, but
also puncture marks.
668
00:42:28,762 --> 00:42:31,500
You're dealing with a
psychopathic sexual sadist.
669
00:42:31,568 --> 00:42:34,139
This was pure evil.
670
00:42:34,172 --> 00:42:36,744
[News] Today police search
for clues into the death of
671
00:42:36,778 --> 00:42:38,682
the young women,
both white and about
672
00:42:38,716 --> 00:42:40,719
19 to 20 years old.
673
00:42:40,752 --> 00:42:43,091
A spokesman said the
cuts were very clean.
674
00:42:43,124 --> 00:42:45,596
Probably inflicted
with a butcher's tool,
675
00:42:45,662 --> 00:42:48,033
a surgical instrument,
or sword.
676
00:42:52,141 --> 00:42:56,350
These two women had been held
in that room for three days:
677
00:42:56,518 --> 00:42:58,655
November 29th to
December 2nd.
678
00:43:36,798 --> 00:43:38,702
In an effort to
identify the victims
679
00:43:38,736 --> 00:43:40,839
from the Travel Inn hotel,
680
00:43:40,872 --> 00:43:43,678
they came up with the
creative idea of actually
681
00:43:43,745 --> 00:43:48,054
putting the victims'
clothes on a mannequin...
682
00:43:48,087 --> 00:43:53,998
and then putting a picture
of that in the newspaper.
683
00:43:54,032 --> 00:43:56,737
The news was all
over the place.
684
00:43:58,875 --> 00:44:01,313
He was called the
'Torso Killer'.
685
00:44:05,823 --> 00:44:08,562
After two months,
someone from New Jersey
686
00:44:08,662 --> 00:44:10,866
recognized the
clothing of one person
687
00:44:10,899 --> 00:44:13,771
from the Midtown Torso case.
688
00:44:16,978 --> 00:44:19,249
That resulted in the
positive identification
689
00:44:19,283 --> 00:44:21,822
of Deedeh Goodarzi.
690
00:44:21,855 --> 00:44:23,959
She was a prostitute.
691
00:44:25,729 --> 00:44:27,633
[News] Miss Goodarzi was
born in Kuwait and
692
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:29,870
came to the US
when she was 14.
693
00:44:29,904 --> 00:44:31,941
Her family lives
in Trenton, NJ.
694
00:44:31,975 --> 00:44:33,945
Police are still looking for
information about the
695
00:44:33,978 --> 00:44:36,784
other victim, last seen
wearing these clothes.
696
00:44:39,089 --> 00:44:41,426
Unfortunately, the second
victim- to this day-
697
00:44:41,628 --> 00:44:42,930
remains a Jane Doe.
698
00:44:42,963 --> 00:44:44,667
The investigators, despite
their best efforts,
699
00:44:44,734 --> 00:44:46,904
have never been able
to identify her.
700
00:44:48,542 --> 00:44:51,046
Four months later, the body
of yet another prostitute is
701
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:54,954
found murdered at the Hotel
Seville in Times Square.
702
00:44:54,988 --> 00:44:58,761
When the body was recovered,
there were no clothes.
703
00:44:58,795 --> 00:45:00,632
He had taken the clothes.
704
00:45:00,699 --> 00:45:03,972
[Sirens continue]
705
00:45:09,016 --> 00:45:11,220
Firefighters were called
to the Hotel Seville,
706
00:45:11,253 --> 00:45:14,694
which is at 29th Street
and Madison Avenue.
707
00:45:14,761 --> 00:45:18,000
Once again, a hotel
room was on fire.
708
00:45:18,034 --> 00:45:22,108
Inside the hotel room was
a nude body of a victim.
709
00:45:25,783 --> 00:45:27,753
The body had been burned
710
00:45:27,819 --> 00:45:30,826
with the same type
of torture marks
711
00:45:30,892 --> 00:45:34,132
that were on the girls
at the Midtown Torso case.
712
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,013
And this time, the offender
had defeminized the victim,
713
00:45:41,046 --> 00:45:43,819
removing both of her breasts.
714
00:45:43,885 --> 00:45:45,922
And that was pretty shocking
because the breasts
715
00:45:45,956 --> 00:45:47,793
were then put on
the headboard,
716
00:45:47,860 --> 00:45:50,131
presented by the offender
to the authorities.
717
00:45:53,939 --> 00:45:56,143
That was a hotel
room from hell.
718
00:45:56,176 --> 00:45:58,213
Only Satan could tell you
what went on in there.
719
00:46:18,521 --> 00:46:19,924
The victim at the
Hotel Seville
720
00:46:19,957 --> 00:46:21,627
was another prostitute.
721
00:46:21,761 --> 00:46:23,932
She was identified
as Jean Ann Reyner.
722
00:46:28,542 --> 00:46:30,946
As I researched the cases
that Cottingham had been
723
00:46:30,980 --> 00:46:34,085
convicted of, they were
all so brutal in nature.
724
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:36,991
Decapitation,
defeminizing.
725
00:46:37,025 --> 00:46:40,933
And, those were very
different than
726
00:46:40,966 --> 00:46:42,870
the 12 cold cases of these
young women in
727
00:46:42,937 --> 00:46:45,609
Bergen County that I
was investigating.
728
00:46:45,776 --> 00:46:47,211
So, at times I questioned:
729
00:46:47,245 --> 00:46:49,183
Am I wasting my time
with Cottingham?
730
00:46:49,216 --> 00:46:51,821
Is he even responsible
for any of these?
731
00:46:51,888 --> 00:46:54,392
But, as the interviews
went on and on
732
00:46:54,426 --> 00:46:55,862
over the months and years,
733
00:46:55,929 --> 00:46:58,133
Cottingham would constantly
explain to me that
734
00:46:58,167 --> 00:47:00,706
he always
changed up his MO.
735
00:47:00,839 --> 00:47:02,843
So, he didn't want the
police to think
736
00:47:02,910 --> 00:47:05,013
any of these killings
were related.
737
00:47:09,957 --> 00:47:11,293
It didn't take the New York
authorities less than a
738
00:47:11,327 --> 00:47:13,998
New York minute to
connect these cases.
739
00:47:14,032 --> 00:47:15,434
And that's when New York
communicated
740
00:47:15,468 --> 00:47:17,840
with Bergen County.
741
00:47:17,906 --> 00:47:20,244
A New York detective
saw the paper, and said,
742
00:47:20,278 --> 00:47:24,319
"Listen, this
might be our case."
743
00:47:24,353 --> 00:47:27,860
The New York City
Homicide Task Force
744
00:47:27,927 --> 00:47:31,768
wanted to come over and
view our evidence
745
00:47:31,868 --> 00:47:34,305
to see if there was a
connection to three of
746
00:47:34,339 --> 00:47:38,146
their open homicides
that occurred
747
00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:42,321
within months of
Cottingham's arrest.
748
00:47:42,355 --> 00:47:44,994
They had executed
a search warrant
749
00:47:45,027 --> 00:47:47,065
at his house in
Lodi, New Jersey.
750
00:47:47,098 --> 00:47:49,002
They came upon
a room that
751
00:47:49,035 --> 00:47:51,874
even Cottingham's wife
was not allowed in.
752
00:47:51,907 --> 00:47:54,513
His trophy room.
753
00:47:54,546 --> 00:47:56,784
Serial killers,
they collect
754
00:47:56,851 --> 00:47:58,855
trophies of their victims.
755
00:47:58,921 --> 00:48:00,458
Kind of like a
hunting trophy,
756
00:48:00,491 --> 00:48:02,897
proof of the kill.
757
00:48:02,963 --> 00:48:04,934
That's how the cases
were linked to New York,
758
00:48:04,967 --> 00:48:06,804
with the trophy room.
759
00:48:06,871 --> 00:48:08,206
So, this was big.
760
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:10,177
Our evidence was
in New Jersey.
761
00:48:19,129 --> 00:48:21,032
After Cottingham's arrest,
762
00:48:21,166 --> 00:48:23,504
a search of his
residence finds
763
00:48:23,537 --> 00:48:28,280
a necklace that ultimately
is tied back to Jean Reyner.
764
00:48:32,656 --> 00:48:34,560
Jean Ann Reyner
had been arrested
765
00:48:34,594 --> 00:48:36,997
a few days prior
to the homicide,
766
00:48:37,064 --> 00:48:41,373
and in the BCI picture is
the necklace on her neck.
767
00:48:41,407 --> 00:48:43,210
It's an exact match.
768
00:48:46,016 --> 00:48:48,487
There's still a very sick,
sick killer on the loose.
769
00:48:48,521 --> 00:48:51,060
The man who cut off the,
the heads and hands
770
00:48:51,093 --> 00:48:53,297
of two women in a
Manhattan hotel room.
771
00:48:53,330 --> 00:48:56,336
Now, the police have a lot
more questions than answers.
772
00:48:56,369 --> 00:48:58,106
It was three days ago that
News Center 4 told you
773
00:48:58,140 --> 00:49:00,211
police in New Jersey believe
they had a suspect in
774
00:49:00,244 --> 00:49:02,248
the brutal killings of
several prostitutes.
775
00:49:02,282 --> 00:49:03,818
That report was
confirmed today,
776
00:49:03,952 --> 00:49:05,387
with the arrest of a
man by the name of
777
00:49:05,421 --> 00:49:07,057
Richard Cottingham.
778
00:49:25,996 --> 00:49:29,136
[Laughing]
779
00:49:29,169 --> 00:49:31,440
We never offered him a deal.
780
00:49:35,047 --> 00:49:38,220
We laid all of this out
before the grand jury,
781
00:49:38,253 --> 00:49:40,424
and the grand jury
returned an indictment
782
00:49:40,458 --> 00:49:43,531
for the crimes of assault
and kidnapping
783
00:49:43,565 --> 00:49:45,401
against Leslie Ann O'Dell,
784
00:49:45,434 --> 00:49:49,476
with crime of murder
against Valerie Ann Street.
785
00:49:52,081 --> 00:49:54,352
But it was entirely
circumstantial against
786
00:49:54,385 --> 00:49:57,492
Maryann Carr, but her murder
was also included
787
00:49:57,526 --> 00:49:59,295
in the same indictment.
788
00:50:01,499 --> 00:50:04,039
He pled not guilty and
took every case to trial.
789
00:50:04,105 --> 00:50:06,042
Would not cooperate,
would not...
790
00:50:06,075 --> 00:50:08,280
admit his guilt in any of it.
791
00:50:10,417 --> 00:50:13,157
The thing that put him at
the scene of the
792
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:16,363
Valerie Ann Street case
was the fingerprint
793
00:50:16,397 --> 00:50:19,036
that had been taken off
of the handcuffs
794
00:50:19,069 --> 00:50:22,141
that were on her body.
795
00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:27,452
We brought in
Leslie Ann O'Dell.
796
00:50:27,485 --> 00:50:29,823
She was very reluctant
to come to testify,
797
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:32,095
but she was cooperative.
798
00:50:32,161 --> 00:50:36,336
She was very matter of fact,
she remembered everything.
799
00:50:36,369 --> 00:50:39,142
She got on the stand
and just levelled him.
800
00:50:39,175 --> 00:50:40,746
"He drugged me,
raped me.
801
00:50:40,946 --> 00:50:45,021
He, he cut my breasts."
802
00:50:45,087 --> 00:50:48,160
And he just sat
there stone-faced.
803
00:50:48,193 --> 00:50:51,299
But it didn't
seem to faze him.
804
00:50:51,332 --> 00:50:53,505
He thought,
"Ain't gonna matter.
805
00:50:53,538 --> 00:50:57,513
I'm going to testify, and
I'll explain all of this."
806
00:50:57,546 --> 00:51:00,183
He was running the show,
it was his show.
807
00:51:03,090 --> 00:51:05,662
So, he did take the stand.
808
00:51:05,695 --> 00:51:09,135
His demeanor was very calm.
809
00:51:09,202 --> 00:51:11,674
Mr. Cottingham thought
somehow that
810
00:51:11,707 --> 00:51:13,511
he was going to
beat the wrap.
811
00:51:16,016 --> 00:51:18,721
He admitted that
he engaged in
812
00:51:18,755 --> 00:51:23,163
sadomasochistic
sexual activity.
813
00:51:23,196 --> 00:51:27,204
He claimed it was
all consensual...
814
00:51:27,238 --> 00:51:29,476
that this was all a game.
815
00:51:32,181 --> 00:51:35,287
He had lives within
lives within lives.
816
00:51:37,458 --> 00:51:39,195
His mother came in every day.
817
00:51:39,228 --> 00:51:42,234
And his sister,
which was even worse,
818
00:51:42,267 --> 00:51:45,441
because they still
believed in him.
819
00:51:45,474 --> 00:51:47,613
And I'd say,
"Mrs. Cottingham,
820
00:51:47,646 --> 00:51:49,349
this is not good."
821
00:51:49,382 --> 00:51:51,353
"Oh, oh, no, no,
no, he's innocent,
822
00:51:51,386 --> 00:51:54,392
he's innocent."
"Okay..."
823
00:51:57,298 --> 00:52:01,106
If Cottingham's
mother dismissed...
824
00:52:01,173 --> 00:52:04,245
the things she's
learning that he did,
825
00:52:04,278 --> 00:52:06,416
she is already the
role model for
826
00:52:06,450 --> 00:52:09,657
his minimization
at what he did.
827
00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:13,196
If it doesn't matter to her,
and that's the woman
828
00:52:13,263 --> 00:52:18,474
who raised him, it certainly
does not matter to him.
829
00:52:18,508 --> 00:52:20,411
If convicted on all counts,
830
00:52:20,444 --> 00:52:22,215
Cottingham faces
a maximum of
831
00:52:22,248 --> 00:52:26,591
274 years in prison,
plus life.
832
00:52:26,624 --> 00:52:30,297
And he still faces trial in
New York City for the murders
833
00:52:30,330 --> 00:52:33,303
and mutilations of two
Midtown prostitutes.
834
00:52:33,336 --> 00:52:37,344
That trial comes after
this one's finished.
835
00:52:37,378 --> 00:52:39,282
The jury was not
out very long,
836
00:52:39,315 --> 00:52:41,486
about a day and a half.
837
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,192
The sentence he received
really ensured
838
00:52:44,258 --> 00:52:48,166
that he would never
see the light of day.
839
00:52:48,233 --> 00:52:51,373
After that, he was
taken over to New York,
840
00:52:51,406 --> 00:52:53,276
where he was tried for
the homicides that
841
00:52:53,309 --> 00:52:55,447
he had committed in
New York City.
842
00:53:00,658 --> 00:53:03,898
By 1984,
Richard Cottingham is
843
00:53:03,931 --> 00:53:05,500
sentenced to
five life sentences
844
00:53:05,535 --> 00:53:07,505
between New York
and New Jersey.
845
00:53:09,743 --> 00:53:12,583
Effectively put away for
the remainder of his days.
846
00:53:22,134 --> 00:53:24,606
Fast forward to 2004.
847
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:26,810
I spent hundreds of hours
with him at the prison.
848
00:53:32,488 --> 00:53:34,392
I had these 12 cold cases.
849
00:53:34,426 --> 00:53:36,430
I thought he could be
good for some of them.
850
00:53:36,463 --> 00:53:39,235
And yet, I was just
making no progress.
851
00:53:39,302 --> 00:53:42,475
I tried everything
I could think of.
852
00:53:42,509 --> 00:53:44,780
Cottingham went to
Catholic grammar school.
853
00:53:44,814 --> 00:53:47,753
I've tried to play the
religious theme on him
854
00:53:47,786 --> 00:53:49,857
as well, knowing that he
had that background.
855
00:53:49,890 --> 00:53:52,361
Told him to cleanse his soul.
856
00:53:52,394 --> 00:53:54,466
This is another way
that he can...
857
00:53:54,499 --> 00:53:56,402
kind of make peace with God.
858
00:54:23,490 --> 00:54:27,198
I've played that theme
over and over and over.
859
00:54:27,298 --> 00:54:29,235
Trying to draw an ounce of
empathy out of him
860
00:54:29,302 --> 00:54:31,406
for the victims' families.
861
00:54:32,709 --> 00:54:34,312
The family members
have a tremendous
862
00:54:34,379 --> 00:54:36,449
thirst for information.
It just never goes away.
863
00:54:36,482 --> 00:54:39,421
They want to know
what happened.
864
00:54:39,455 --> 00:54:41,325
Over the years
he would say,
865
00:54:41,392 --> 00:54:42,795
"Why would I do that if it's
going to hurt me?"
866
00:55:09,517 --> 00:55:11,720
The three children were
obviously adults now.
867
00:55:11,754 --> 00:55:14,693
He claimed that he had
a sensitivity towards
868
00:55:14,726 --> 00:55:17,599
his children reading about
him in the newspaper.
869
00:55:39,676 --> 00:55:40,712
Every time you think
you're making progress
870
00:55:40,745 --> 00:55:42,448
with this guy he throws
another excuse on
871
00:55:42,481 --> 00:55:46,691
why he's not willing to give
you what you need.
872
00:55:46,724 --> 00:55:48,861
Eventually he complained...
873
00:55:48,894 --> 00:55:50,765
he didn't like when I
visited him at the prison
874
00:55:50,798 --> 00:55:53,303
because the other
inmates knew that
875
00:55:53,370 --> 00:55:54,840
he was getting pulled out.
876
00:55:57,044 --> 00:55:58,614
It looks like he's a rat.
877
00:56:13,477 --> 00:56:16,550
I thought for sure
at any given moment,
878
00:56:16,584 --> 00:56:19,623
he's going to completely
tank on me and stop it.
879
00:56:31,547 --> 00:56:33,116
Early on, Richard was
complaining that
880
00:56:33,149 --> 00:56:35,755
I was visiting him
at the prison.
881
00:56:35,789 --> 00:56:38,694
There's a process
in a prison, right.
882
00:56:38,727 --> 00:56:40,965
Just because I'm a detective,
I didn't just get to walk in
883
00:56:40,999 --> 00:56:42,602
the prison and go up to
his cell and be like,
884
00:56:42,636 --> 00:56:43,838
"Hey, Richard,
how are you?"
885
00:56:43,871 --> 00:56:46,511
They'd have to get guards
to bring him down so,
886
00:56:46,544 --> 00:56:49,917
he would walk past
the prison population.
887
00:56:49,950 --> 00:56:51,687
You know, it doesn't go
over well with the
888
00:56:51,721 --> 00:56:53,891
prison population, he's
cooperating with the police.
889
00:56:53,924 --> 00:56:56,864
Even if all he's
telling on is himself.
890
00:56:56,898 --> 00:56:58,668
He would have to
walk past The Iceman,
891
00:56:58,701 --> 00:57:00,671
and The Iceman would
quietly chuckle to himself.
892
00:57:00,705 --> 00:57:02,474
He knew exactly
where he was going.
893
00:57:13,764 --> 00:57:15,668
He wanted me to get him
out of the prison and say,
894
00:57:15,701 --> 00:57:17,438
you know, "Bring me up
to Bergen County
895
00:57:17,505 --> 00:57:19,642
where these guys don't
see what I'm doing."
896
00:57:24,620 --> 00:57:27,324
It gave me an excuse to
bring him onto my home turf,
897
00:57:27,458 --> 00:57:29,896
where I can control
the visit better.
898
00:57:32,501 --> 00:57:33,771
Just me and a partner
would go down, pick him up,
899
00:57:33,804 --> 00:57:35,642
drive him up to
Bergen County,
900
00:57:35,675 --> 00:57:37,946
talk to him for hours,
drive him back.
901
00:57:42,087 --> 00:57:43,858
I would keep him overnight.
902
00:57:43,891 --> 00:57:46,664
We put him in our
own cellblock.
903
00:57:48,033 --> 00:57:50,003
The next morning, pull him
out and start all over again.
904
00:57:50,036 --> 00:57:51,707
Feed him an egg sandwich,
a cup of coffee,
905
00:57:51,740 --> 00:57:55,213
and we'd go at it again.
906
00:57:55,313 --> 00:57:58,319
It was just a total cat and
mouse game that we would play.
907
00:58:00,758 --> 00:58:03,630
Each of us was trying
to play the other.
908
00:58:35,762 --> 00:58:37,465
There was no way to
talk about murders
909
00:58:37,533 --> 00:58:39,402
all day long and...
910
00:58:39,536 --> 00:58:41,673
think I would get
anywhere with him.
911
00:58:41,706 --> 00:58:43,644
If I was really going to
build trust with this guy,
912
00:58:43,711 --> 00:58:45,682
there had to be times where
he felt like, you know,
913
00:58:45,715 --> 00:58:47,653
I was just being his friend...
914
00:58:47,686 --> 00:58:49,957
as despicable and
disgusting as that is.
915
00:58:53,730 --> 00:58:56,937
We'd have him up and,
sometimes just play cards.
916
00:58:59,543 --> 00:59:00,711
I'd have six detectives
in my office,
917
00:59:00,745 --> 00:59:02,582
and we'd sit around
and play poker,
918
00:59:02,649 --> 00:59:04,953
after we were done
interrogating him for a day.
919
00:59:07,692 --> 00:59:11,065
Even though he's treating
him like a human...
920
00:59:11,098 --> 00:59:13,938
he's an animal.
921
00:59:13,971 --> 00:59:15,875
It's hard to sit down
with the devil and
922
00:59:15,908 --> 00:59:18,246
make believe
you're the same.
923
00:59:20,084 --> 00:59:22,121
He just kept putting obstacle
after obstacle in front of me
924
00:59:22,154 --> 00:59:24,793
on why he wouldn't talk
about another case.
925
00:59:41,626 --> 00:59:47,505
He's the type of offender
who trusts in language.
926
00:59:47,605 --> 00:59:50,043
He thinks that if he
puts things into his
927
00:59:50,076 --> 00:59:54,451
own narrative,
he will control reality,
928
00:59:54,586 --> 00:59:59,061
he will control what
his crimes mean.
929
00:59:59,094 --> 01:00:03,036
You're dealing with a clever,
malignant narcissist.
930
01:00:03,069 --> 01:00:05,775
Richard Cottingham is
playing a game for,
931
01:00:05,809 --> 01:00:07,912
"What can I get
out of this?"
932
01:00:07,946 --> 01:00:09,583
So, he wanted
something back.
933
01:00:09,649 --> 01:00:13,824
"What are you going
to do for me?"
934
01:00:13,857 --> 01:00:16,229
There were a few staples
that Richard always wanted,
935
01:00:16,262 --> 01:00:17,732
and that kept him happy.
936
01:00:17,765 --> 01:00:18,901
And they were
relatively simple,
937
01:00:18,934 --> 01:00:21,039
so why not give
them to him?
938
01:00:23,811 --> 01:00:26,149
He loved pizza from a
certain pizza place.
939
01:00:26,182 --> 01:00:28,721
I'd send detectives go
pick up a couple of pies.
940
01:00:28,788 --> 01:00:30,925
He loved sausage and
extra cheese pizza.
941
01:00:32,829 --> 01:00:36,570
He liked donuts
from Dunkin' Donuts.
942
01:00:36,670 --> 01:00:39,943
There were times he'd
ask for cheeseburgers.
943
01:00:39,977 --> 01:00:43,684
If it starts with a deck
of cards, or a pizza,
944
01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:46,790
it's almost like a trading,
a horse trading going on.
945
01:00:48,761 --> 01:00:52,869
After I met his demands...
946
01:00:52,902 --> 01:00:55,808
he began to
cooperate with me.
947
01:01:30,678 --> 01:01:33,215
He began to open up
about the past.
948
01:01:33,249 --> 01:01:35,888
This is where I would sense
the opening to be like,
949
01:01:35,922 --> 01:01:38,861
let me try and get
something from him.
950
01:01:38,894 --> 01:01:41,265
We did one day get
to the point of
951
01:01:41,299 --> 01:01:43,603
doing what we call like a
'queen for a day',
952
01:01:43,737 --> 01:01:46,042
which is a proffer
agreement where we say,
953
01:01:46,075 --> 01:01:47,979
"You're going to come in,
whatever you tell us today
954
01:01:48,012 --> 01:01:49,448
is not going to be
used against you
955
01:01:49,650 --> 01:01:51,854
in a court of law."
956
01:01:51,887 --> 01:01:53,524
During that
proffer session,
957
01:01:53,691 --> 01:01:56,897
he gave a little
bit of detail...
958
01:01:56,930 --> 01:02:01,807
that he killed a housewife
in October of 1967.
959
01:02:01,874 --> 01:02:03,844
He said that he believed
that she had children.
960
01:02:30,665 --> 01:02:32,936
This was the break
I'd been waiting for.
961
01:02:35,207 --> 01:02:37,210
We're finally here.
We're finally at this moment.
962
01:02:53,744 --> 01:02:56,015
Of all the unsolved
homicides that
963
01:02:56,049 --> 01:02:59,455
I had been looking at
involving young women...
964
01:02:59,522 --> 01:03:04,031
Nancy Vogel was really the
only one that had children.
965
01:03:04,064 --> 01:03:06,936
So, it was just that little
tidbit that made me then
966
01:03:06,970 --> 01:03:08,841
go get the file,
look at it and
967
01:03:08,874 --> 01:03:12,649
really start studying the
Vogel homicide.
968
01:03:12,716 --> 01:03:14,018
Nancy Vogel was
a 29-year-old
969
01:03:14,051 --> 01:03:16,690
married mother of two.
970
01:03:16,756 --> 01:03:19,128
Her children were nine
and five years old.
971
01:03:22,034 --> 01:03:24,939
1967 was a, was a
different, different world.
972
01:03:32,053 --> 01:03:34,158
In Little Ferry,
we had a...
973
01:03:34,191 --> 01:03:37,197
a typical Italian setup-
the two-family house
974
01:03:37,230 --> 01:03:39,836
with the finished basement
where everyone ate and my
975
01:03:39,870 --> 01:03:42,106
grandmother lived upstairs,
we lived in the middle.
976
01:03:44,646 --> 01:03:45,848
She was always happy,
977
01:03:45,882 --> 01:03:46,983
she was always
doing things for us.
978
01:03:47,017 --> 01:03:51,159
She always- you know,
she's the perfect mom.
979
01:03:51,192 --> 01:03:53,096
We used to, every year,
go to Wildwood and
980
01:03:53,129 --> 01:03:54,866
having fun on the beach.
981
01:03:54,899 --> 01:03:57,337
Always laughing.
982
01:04:00,177 --> 01:04:03,851
And then, it was a day
or two before Halloween.
983
01:04:03,884 --> 01:04:07,758
My life would change.
984
01:04:07,825 --> 01:04:10,965
My sister went to my father
about 2, 3 o'clock
985
01:04:10,998 --> 01:04:14,071
in the morning and said,
"Mommy's not home."
986
01:04:18,514 --> 01:04:20,150
By the time I woke up,
it was, you know,
987
01:04:20,183 --> 01:04:23,022
8, 9 o'clock
in the morning.
988
01:04:23,055 --> 01:04:26,095
People were at the house,
and it was frantic, chaos.
989
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,805
My father and my uncle-
which is my mother's brother-
990
01:04:30,838 --> 01:04:31,873
went to the
police department.
991
01:04:31,907 --> 01:04:33,544
They were driving around
town looking for her,
992
01:04:33,611 --> 01:04:38,085
calling friends and relatives
that she might have been with.
993
01:04:38,118 --> 01:04:40,624
She was missing
for a day or two.
994
01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:50,911
I was in 6th grade,
and I came home
995
01:04:50,945 --> 01:04:53,283
from Catholic school
with my friend.
996
01:04:53,316 --> 01:04:56,656
And there was a car over here
that did not look familiar.
997
01:04:56,689 --> 01:04:59,929
And, we looked into the car,
and we saw something
998
01:04:59,962 --> 01:05:02,902
that looked like
a mannequin.
999
01:05:02,936 --> 01:05:04,539
It was indeed
not a mannequin,
1000
01:05:04,706 --> 01:05:07,110
and it was a woman.
1001
01:05:08,948 --> 01:05:10,718
She was wedged between the
1002
01:05:10,785 --> 01:05:13,857
back of the front seat
and on the floor.
1003
01:05:13,891 --> 01:05:16,428
Her arms were tied,
and she was naked.
1004
01:05:18,332 --> 01:05:21,706
So, we ran in the house
to call the police.
1005
01:05:21,773 --> 01:05:22,875
They're like,
"A dead body?"
1006
01:05:22,908 --> 01:05:24,044
I'm like, "Yes, I think
there's a dead body
1007
01:05:24,078 --> 01:05:26,550
in the car in front
of my house."
1008
01:05:26,717 --> 01:05:28,720
They came immediately.
1009
01:05:28,787 --> 01:05:31,659
They dusted the
door for prints.
1010
01:05:31,726 --> 01:05:34,632
And, news people came, and
they were taking pictures.
1011
01:05:37,972 --> 01:05:39,943
Neighbors from all over
the place were down,
1012
01:05:39,976 --> 01:05:42,815
asking questions.
Nothing happened here, ever.
1013
01:05:42,848 --> 01:05:44,853
So, it was huge.
1014
01:05:48,193 --> 01:05:50,697
So my grandmother
was making us lunch.
1015
01:05:53,871 --> 01:05:55,039
And my sister
opens the door,
1016
01:05:55,072 --> 01:05:57,010
and it was the
newspaper, saying,
1017
01:05:57,044 --> 01:05:59,716
"Now that you found out
that your mother's dead,
1018
01:05:59,783 --> 01:06:01,853
how do you feel about it?"
1019
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,924
And my sister was
like, shocked.
1020
01:06:03,958 --> 01:06:05,359
And then, they came
into the house,
1021
01:06:05,393 --> 01:06:07,965
and they talked to my
grandmother, my nanny.
1022
01:06:07,998 --> 01:06:09,268
And, in Italian,
1023
01:06:09,301 --> 01:06:11,639
she sent them to hell and
cursed them out.
1024
01:06:13,844 --> 01:06:15,848
It was bad.
1025
01:06:15,881 --> 01:06:19,890
I just remember just watching
everybody yelling and crying
1026
01:06:19,923 --> 01:06:23,263
and not really
understanding it.
1027
01:06:23,296 --> 01:06:25,901
So, that's how we found out.
1028
01:06:31,847 --> 01:06:33,818
The cops, you know,
worked diligently
1029
01:06:33,884 --> 01:06:36,288
on the case
back in 1967.
1030
01:06:36,322 --> 01:06:38,026
Documentation of
what was done
1031
01:06:38,059 --> 01:06:40,129
wasn't up to
today's standards.
1032
01:06:40,163 --> 01:06:42,334
And we find this a lot of
times in our cold case files,
1033
01:06:42,367 --> 01:06:44,839
that there's just not a lot
of information about
1034
01:06:44,906 --> 01:06:46,141
what was done,
and what,
1035
01:06:46,175 --> 01:06:48,278
what wasn't done.
you know,
1036
01:06:52,021 --> 01:06:53,222
She left her house,
1037
01:06:53,255 --> 01:06:54,692
telling her family
she was going to
1038
01:06:54,759 --> 01:06:59,168
the shopping center in
Little Ferry, New Jersey.
1039
01:06:59,201 --> 01:07:00,804
Three days later,
her body was found
1040
01:07:00,871 --> 01:07:03,075
in the back seat
of her car...
1041
01:07:03,108 --> 01:07:06,315
on a side street in
Ridgefield Park, New Jersey.
1042
01:07:06,349 --> 01:07:08,787
Raped, beaten,
and strangled.
1043
01:07:12,194 --> 01:07:15,133
In this case, we saw who
they were going after.
1044
01:07:15,167 --> 01:07:18,339
There was nothing obvious.
1045
01:07:18,372 --> 01:07:19,943
It was a big story
at the time,
1046
01:07:19,976 --> 01:07:24,118
and it also grew over time.
1047
01:07:24,151 --> 01:07:26,322
Cottingham was never
considered a suspect
1048
01:07:26,355 --> 01:07:28,025
in the murder of
Nancy Vogel,
1049
01:07:28,059 --> 01:07:32,735
until he directed me
to that case.
1050
01:07:32,802 --> 01:07:35,975
When you solve a cold case,
you don't just simply
1051
01:07:36,008 --> 01:07:39,048
take a person's
word that, "I did it."
1052
01:07:39,081 --> 01:07:42,287
There were quite a
few more details.
1053
01:07:43,723 --> 01:07:46,229
She was acquainted with
Richard Cottingham.
1054
01:07:46,262 --> 01:07:49,134
Cottingham lived in
Little Ferry at the time.
1055
01:08:08,139 --> 01:08:11,179
In her own Rambler vehicle,
there were brown
1056
01:08:11,212 --> 01:08:13,382
shopping bags in the
back of the vehicle.
1057
01:08:17,390 --> 01:08:21,332
There were relatively recent
purchases at the Valley Fair.
1058
01:08:24,104 --> 01:08:26,141
We knew that there was a
1059
01:08:26,175 --> 01:08:29,081
sexual overtone
to the crime,
1060
01:08:29,114 --> 01:08:31,151
that she had been strangled.
1061
01:08:59,975 --> 01:09:03,116
Here was that
independent proof,
1062
01:09:03,149 --> 01:09:05,955
along with other things.
1063
01:09:05,988 --> 01:09:08,794
Despite the fact that he
pointed me in the direction
1064
01:09:08,861 --> 01:09:13,235
of the Nancy Vogel case and
gave me some details that...
1065
01:09:13,268 --> 01:09:16,041
convinced me he was
responsible for that murder,
1066
01:09:16,108 --> 01:09:19,281
he refused to give
the full confession.
1067
01:09:19,314 --> 01:09:21,452
It was such a game
of trying to be like,
1068
01:09:21,485 --> 01:09:24,225
who is in control of this
relationship that we have?
1069
01:09:24,258 --> 01:09:26,896
He did not want to
give this confession.
1070
01:09:43,463 --> 01:09:45,266
Every time I thought we
were going to get there,
1071
01:09:45,299 --> 01:09:46,469
he would say,
1072
01:09:46,502 --> 01:09:48,239
"Well, you didn't come
through with this for me.
1073
01:09:48,272 --> 01:09:50,076
What about the Attorney
General's office?
1074
01:09:50,143 --> 01:09:51,111
How do I know that
they won't step in?
1075
01:09:51,145 --> 01:09:52,380
What if...
1076
01:09:52,414 --> 01:09:53,550
What if your boss leaves and
there's a new boss and
1077
01:09:53,583 --> 01:09:56,188
he says, 'No, I want
to charge the guy'?"
1078
01:09:56,221 --> 01:09:57,525
And, "How are you going
to prove to me that
1079
01:09:57,558 --> 01:10:00,063
you're going to keep it
out of the media?
1080
01:10:00,129 --> 01:10:01,164
What about the
family members,
1081
01:10:01,198 --> 01:10:02,167
when you tell the family?
1082
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,271
What if they go
to the press?"
1083
01:10:04,305 --> 01:10:06,910
It was constantly
this back and forth
1084
01:10:06,976 --> 01:10:09,516
like bickering between the
two of us over what the
1085
01:10:09,549 --> 01:10:12,286
"conditions" would
be of this confession.
1086
01:10:33,396 --> 01:10:36,268
I came through on my end
with all of his asks,
1087
01:10:36,301 --> 01:10:38,239
and it built up such a
level of trust,
1088
01:10:38,272 --> 01:10:39,374
and then finally
I was like,
1089
01:10:39,408 --> 01:10:40,977
"I'm not doing another
----ing thing for you
1090
01:10:41,044 --> 01:10:44,451
until we get one."
1091
01:10:44,484 --> 01:10:47,959
And then finally,
back in 2010, one visit,
1092
01:10:48,025 --> 01:10:51,933
I just broke him down
and he agreed to confess.
1093
01:10:54,304 --> 01:10:55,674
We're going on
the record.
1094
01:10:55,707 --> 01:10:58,245
I was literally...
1095
01:10:58,279 --> 01:11:00,416
----ing in my pants.
1096
01:11:03,255 --> 01:11:06,395
It's time to pay the piper.
1097
01:11:06,428 --> 01:11:09,836
I'm finally going to learn
how he killed this person,
1098
01:11:10,036 --> 01:11:11,506
in his own words.
1099
01:11:31,979 --> 01:11:33,683
It's now 2010.
1100
01:11:33,717 --> 01:11:35,921
I've spent the
last six years
1101
01:11:36,088 --> 01:11:38,025
grinding away with this guy,
1102
01:11:38,158 --> 01:11:40,564
trying to solve at
least one of these
1103
01:11:40,598 --> 01:11:43,235
12 cold cases that I have.
1104
01:11:43,268 --> 01:11:44,939
He balked and
balked and balked,
1105
01:11:45,105 --> 01:11:46,242
and then finally
I would say,
1106
01:11:46,275 --> 01:11:48,379
"We're doing it now.
We're doing it right now."
1107
01:11:48,412 --> 01:11:50,449
And I would flip the switch,
and be like,
1108
01:11:50,483 --> 01:11:52,086
"I've had enough,
let's go."
1109
01:12:31,632 --> 01:12:33,269
When I put the tape
recorder on the table,
1110
01:12:33,302 --> 01:12:36,175
he actually like, pushed his
chair back and began to sweat.
1111
01:12:37,912 --> 01:12:40,182
It was a visceral
reaction on his part...
1112
01:12:40,249 --> 01:12:43,155
once we started going.
1113
01:12:43,222 --> 01:12:44,057
He looks like he's going to
1114
01:12:44,190 --> 01:12:46,295
back down from
confessing to it.
1115
01:12:46,328 --> 01:12:49,367
He's shying away
from the recorder.
1116
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,338
It's six years in the making.
1117
01:12:51,371 --> 01:12:53,743
And now, you know,
I'm praying that
1118
01:12:53,776 --> 01:12:56,616
he doesn't panic so much
that he shuts down.
1119
01:13:14,652 --> 01:13:16,321
I kind of had to bring him
back on track to
1120
01:13:16,388 --> 01:13:18,560
make sure that he didn't
kind of, you know,
1121
01:13:18,593 --> 01:13:20,530
---- the bed on me and say,
"I don't want to do this."
1122
01:14:01,712 --> 01:14:04,017
He's very calm and
matter of fact,
1123
01:14:04,117 --> 01:14:07,289
and it's as if he has no
feelings about it whatsoever.
1124
01:14:07,356 --> 01:14:08,726
He doesn't seem to
have any remorse.
1125
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,797
He doesn't seem
to have empathy.
1126
01:14:46,569 --> 01:14:48,607
So, to sit across
from somebody,
1127
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,577
and hear them tell...
1128
01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:53,415
the story of a brutal rape
and murder as if it's
1129
01:14:53,448 --> 01:14:55,152
an everyday occurrence
in their life,
1130
01:14:55,219 --> 01:14:56,789
as if it's the same as me
telling you a story about
1131
01:14:56,822 --> 01:14:58,660
going to the grocery store
and buying a gallon of milk,
1132
01:14:58,693 --> 01:15:00,797
is, is disturbing.
1133
01:15:37,638 --> 01:15:41,612
I didn't get him to confess
to that case until 2010.
1134
01:15:41,646 --> 01:15:45,119
Six frigging years later.
1135
01:15:45,219 --> 01:15:47,825
And in between there
was hundreds of hours.
1136
01:15:47,858 --> 01:15:50,864
And that's how obstinate the
guy could be and how stubborn.
1137
01:15:55,206 --> 01:15:58,613
We talked to the family
after the confession.
1138
01:15:58,646 --> 01:16:01,418
I had Bill and
his sister Karen,
1139
01:16:01,485 --> 01:16:02,687
and some other
family members
1140
01:16:02,721 --> 01:16:05,627
come into the
prosecutor's office.
1141
01:16:05,661 --> 01:16:08,131
We wanted the family
to hear it first.
1142
01:16:08,165 --> 01:16:11,672
Never, ever, ever have them
read it in a newspaper.
1143
01:16:11,706 --> 01:16:13,375
And because of
this type of a case,
1144
01:16:13,442 --> 01:16:16,983
we wanted to meet
them personally.
1145
01:16:17,016 --> 01:16:20,557
I didn't know who Richard
Cottingham was or anything.
1146
01:16:20,590 --> 01:16:22,961
Rob reaches over,
he goes, "Bill,
1147
01:16:22,994 --> 01:16:25,700
don't go home and Google
Richard Cottingham.
1148
01:16:25,734 --> 01:16:29,407
Don't do that yet.
It's not the same thing."
1149
01:16:31,579 --> 01:16:33,750
You're now able to answer
a lot of questions.
1150
01:16:33,784 --> 01:16:35,787
And sometimes I wonder...
1151
01:16:35,821 --> 01:16:39,595
Is it better sometimes to
have the questions unanswered?
1152
01:16:39,628 --> 01:16:41,632
Or to get the answers,
even though the
1153
01:16:41,665 --> 01:16:46,676
answers themselves may
cause you more pain?
1154
01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:49,816
My mom was always
watching out over me.
1155
01:16:49,849 --> 01:16:52,621
And that's my biggest thing,
I really feel that
1156
01:16:52,655 --> 01:16:56,027
she was taken
before her time.
1157
01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:57,898
And throughout the whole
thing, they just kept saying,
1158
01:16:57,931 --> 01:16:59,802
"You have to keep it quiet,
you have to keep it quiet.
1159
01:16:59,835 --> 01:17:01,939
You can't tell anybody."
And I agreed.
1160
01:17:04,845 --> 01:17:07,751
Keeping quiet is a-
was hard.
1161
01:17:07,784 --> 01:17:09,821
Very, very hard.
1162
01:17:11,558 --> 01:17:13,295
One of the reasons
why we want to
1163
01:17:13,361 --> 01:17:16,268
honor Cottingham's request,
as much as we don't
1164
01:17:16,334 --> 01:17:18,807
want to honor anything
the man has to say,
1165
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,846
is we want to do this
for the next family,
1166
01:17:21,879 --> 01:17:24,250
for the next father,
for the next mother,
1167
01:17:24,417 --> 01:17:25,721
for the next sibling.
1168
01:17:25,754 --> 01:17:28,192
We want him to continue
to tell us things.
1169
01:17:28,292 --> 01:17:31,966
You always want to
solve these cold cases.
1170
01:17:31,999 --> 01:17:34,304
After getting that
first confession,
1171
01:17:34,371 --> 01:17:36,609
I was hoping that this
was finally the moment
1172
01:17:36,642 --> 01:17:38,746
that the dam would
break, and...
1173
01:17:38,779 --> 01:17:42,353
he would open up
about other cases.
1174
01:17:42,419 --> 01:17:44,658
To get him to go to court
was really important to me,
1175
01:17:44,692 --> 01:17:47,496
it was important to me
for the victim's family.
1176
01:17:47,564 --> 01:17:48,733
This was the first one,
1177
01:17:48,766 --> 01:17:52,775
and I just wanted that
foundation laid.
1178
01:17:52,808 --> 01:17:54,912
And that took some time
and some convincing.
1179
01:17:57,718 --> 01:17:59,621
Richard Cottingham
was already serving
1180
01:17:59,655 --> 01:18:01,859
multiple life terms.
1181
01:18:01,892 --> 01:18:03,896
The plea deal was,
1182
01:18:03,930 --> 01:18:05,700
"You're going to get
another life term.
1183
01:18:05,734 --> 01:18:08,539
Nothing less.
A life for a life."
1184
01:18:08,606 --> 01:18:10,610
And he was
okay with that.
1185
01:18:12,947 --> 01:18:15,654
You know, he just didn't
want to be in the public eye.
1186
01:18:15,687 --> 01:18:17,991
He didn't want his
kids to know
1187
01:18:18,025 --> 01:18:20,028
the real, true monster
that he was.
1188
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:49,989
I had to convince him that
1189
01:18:50,022 --> 01:18:51,525
we were not going to put
out a press release,
1190
01:18:51,592 --> 01:18:52,527
we weren't going
to make a big
1191
01:18:52,594 --> 01:18:54,565
dog and pony show about it.
1192
01:18:56,168 --> 01:18:59,908
The actual court date
was in August of 2010.
1193
01:19:02,113 --> 01:19:05,018
In an effort to really keep it
out of the newspapers and,
1194
01:19:05,052 --> 01:19:08,927
and quiet,
we made it late in the day.
1195
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,597
We can't keep the public out
1196
01:19:10,663 --> 01:19:11,933
or we can't keep the
media out of the court,
1197
01:19:11,966 --> 01:19:14,871
but there was very, very
little likelihood that the
1198
01:19:14,905 --> 01:19:17,443
press would be lurking
around the courthouse at say,
1199
01:19:17,577 --> 01:19:21,585
4:30, 5 o'clock
in the afternoon.
1200
01:19:21,618 --> 01:19:23,890
The only people that were
really in the court was the
1201
01:19:23,924 --> 01:19:26,829
prosecutor, myself,
1202
01:19:26,862 --> 01:19:28,866
some other
homicide detectives,
1203
01:19:28,900 --> 01:19:31,037
the Vogel family...
1204
01:19:31,071 --> 01:19:33,877
Of course, Cottingham,
his defense attorney,
1205
01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:36,280
and Judge Venezia.
1206
01:19:38,653 --> 01:19:40,590
My role was simple.
1207
01:19:40,657 --> 01:19:44,330
I was asked to take a plea.
1208
01:19:44,531 --> 01:19:45,934
And I was told,
1209
01:19:45,968 --> 01:19:50,009
"We'd like to make this
short and sweet.
1210
01:19:50,042 --> 01:19:54,384
The plea,
sentence, done."
1211
01:19:54,484 --> 01:19:56,655
And did I do that?
For the most part, I did.
1212
01:19:59,628 --> 01:20:02,801
Ah, it didn't exactly
go as planned.
1213
01:20:02,834 --> 01:20:06,709
Your conduct and
your history
1214
01:20:06,743 --> 01:20:09,615
is beyond appalling.
1215
01:20:11,819 --> 01:20:14,658
Judge Venezia started
really hammering him.
1216
01:20:14,691 --> 01:20:17,062
It doesn't detract from the
fact that I think you are
1217
01:20:17,096 --> 01:20:19,969
an absolutely despicable
human being,
1218
01:20:20,002 --> 01:20:22,608
and I use that
word sparingly.
1219
01:20:25,847 --> 01:20:27,885
I thought at any given
moment he's gonna say,
1220
01:20:27,918 --> 01:20:29,387
"You know what,
Judge, I'm not guilty.
1221
01:20:29,588 --> 01:20:30,389
I didn't do this,"
1222
01:20:30,489 --> 01:20:33,395
or somehow sabotage
the confession he gave.
1223
01:20:33,495 --> 01:20:35,399
I was waiting for him
to turn to me and say,
1224
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,002
"I'm not doing this."
1225
01:20:49,928 --> 01:20:51,231
So, we bring him into court
1226
01:20:51,264 --> 01:20:53,134
in front of Judge
Donald Venezia.
1227
01:20:55,941 --> 01:20:58,846
We explained it in no
uncertain terms that...
1228
01:20:58,879 --> 01:21:01,785
we were not looking for
fanfare in this thing.
1229
01:21:01,852 --> 01:21:04,624
We wanted to quietly give
closure to the family.
1230
01:21:07,698 --> 01:21:11,104
We needed it just
quick and quiet.
1231
01:21:13,175 --> 01:21:15,179
Bring him to the courtroom
at a set time that we had
1232
01:21:15,212 --> 01:21:18,753
made arrangements for,
sentence him right there.
1233
01:21:18,786 --> 01:21:22,794
Everything was perfect.
1234
01:21:22,861 --> 01:21:25,232
They want to get it
over with, I get it.
1235
01:21:25,265 --> 01:21:30,209
And I was told, "We'd like to
make this short and sweet."
1236
01:21:35,086 --> 01:21:37,089
For the first time, I see
Richard Cottingham
1237
01:21:37,123 --> 01:21:38,792
walking down the hallway.
1238
01:21:40,597 --> 01:21:42,868
He looks like Santa Claus
with his long, long beard.
1239
01:21:42,901 --> 01:21:44,938
He's overweight and whatnot.
1240
01:21:44,972 --> 01:21:47,677
This is nothing
that I imagined.
1241
01:21:47,744 --> 01:21:48,879
So, you know,
as a little kid,
1242
01:21:48,913 --> 01:21:49,915
you say your mother
was murdered,
1243
01:21:49,948 --> 01:21:53,657
you think it's like
a big monster, bad...
1244
01:21:53,723 --> 01:21:56,762
ugly,
terrible person.
1245
01:21:56,829 --> 01:21:59,134
And here's...
he's nothing.
1246
01:21:59,167 --> 01:22:03,008
He's a shell of a man.
1247
01:22:03,041 --> 01:22:05,847
It was, you know, kind of
both exhilarating and
1248
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,216
frustrating all
at the same time.
1249
01:22:07,249 --> 01:22:09,320
It's hard to put into words.
1250
01:22:09,353 --> 01:22:11,525
The culmination of six
years' worth of work
1251
01:22:11,726 --> 01:22:14,664
coming down to this.
1252
01:22:14,731 --> 01:22:16,969
I never thought that I'd
have the opportunity there,
1253
01:22:17,002 --> 01:22:20,544
Mr. Cottingham,
1254
01:22:20,711 --> 01:22:23,115
to really witness somebody
1255
01:22:23,148 --> 01:22:26,589
who has the makeup
that you do.
1256
01:22:26,755 --> 01:22:30,062
Your conduct and
your history
1257
01:22:30,096 --> 01:22:32,701
is beyond appalling.
1258
01:22:32,768 --> 01:22:33,936
And that, very frankly,
1259
01:22:33,970 --> 01:22:36,240
when you end up
wherever you end up,
1260
01:22:36,274 --> 01:22:39,548
I suggest you dress with
light clothes 'cause it's
1261
01:22:39,648 --> 01:22:42,921
usually pretty hot where
I think you're going.
1262
01:22:42,955 --> 01:22:45,191
In the middle of the
court proceeding,
1263
01:22:45,225 --> 01:22:47,196
the judge just
begins to berate him,
1264
01:22:47,229 --> 01:22:48,833
and I'm watching it
go south.
1265
01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:52,039
And I'm just like,
this is so ----ing bad.
1266
01:22:52,072 --> 01:22:55,212
I don't think I've ever
had the ability
1267
01:22:55,245 --> 01:22:58,686
nor desire to ever, like...
1268
01:22:58,820 --> 01:23:02,661
witness the devil
in my courtroom.
1269
01:23:02,794 --> 01:23:07,336
But I think I see him
today in you.
1270
01:23:07,369 --> 01:23:10,677
You see me in the row,
right behind him,
1271
01:23:10,810 --> 01:23:11,946
and I'm like literally
slumping down
1272
01:23:11,979 --> 01:23:15,285
with the, "Oh, ----".
1273
01:23:15,318 --> 01:23:17,857
It doesn't detract from the
fact that I think you are
1274
01:23:17,924 --> 01:23:20,897
an absolutely despicable
human being and
1275
01:23:20,931 --> 01:23:24,070
I use that word sparingly.
1276
01:23:24,103 --> 01:23:26,008
Very difficult to look
people in the eye,
1277
01:23:26,041 --> 01:23:27,343
who lost a loved one,
1278
01:23:27,376 --> 01:23:30,115
because of the outrageous
deed of somebody
1279
01:23:30,149 --> 01:23:32,186
who's standing
twelve feet from you,
1280
01:23:32,220 --> 01:23:34,057
and twelve feet from them.
1281
01:23:34,090 --> 01:23:36,929
Whether you're a judge or not,
you're a human being.
1282
01:23:41,170 --> 01:23:43,175
It wasn't, you know,
typically what you see
1283
01:23:43,208 --> 01:23:44,344
out of a judge
in a courtroom,
1284
01:23:44,377 --> 01:23:45,914
but I think in this
particular case,
1285
01:23:45,947 --> 01:23:47,884
he needed to hear that.
1286
01:23:49,755 --> 01:23:53,896
I'm glad he did that,
I'm glad he stood up.
1287
01:23:53,930 --> 01:23:56,769
Then, the judge literally
forced him to turn around and
1288
01:23:56,902 --> 01:23:59,975
apologize to Bill Vogel
and his sister.
1289
01:24:00,008 --> 01:24:01,411
Why don't you turn
around and tell them,
1290
01:24:01,444 --> 01:24:03,849
'cause what's left of 'em are
in the audience over there.
1291
01:24:03,882 --> 01:24:06,454
Why don't you, why don't you
man up a little bit there?
1292
01:24:06,487 --> 01:24:09,127
I want you to look at them
in the eye and tell them.
1293
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,264
Huh? How about that?
Why don't you do that?
1294
01:24:11,297 --> 01:24:14,170
I am very sorry for all
the pain I've caused you.
1295
01:24:14,204 --> 01:24:17,042
I really mean that.
1296
01:24:17,076 --> 01:24:20,082
His narrative is
reality to him,
1297
01:24:20,115 --> 01:24:24,057
and the judge in the
room punctures that...
1298
01:24:24,090 --> 01:24:27,930
because he was helpless.
1299
01:24:30,002 --> 01:24:31,872
When it was all over,
1300
01:24:31,939 --> 01:24:34,043
I escorted him out.
1301
01:24:34,077 --> 01:24:37,483
Cottingham stopped,
turned to me...
1302
01:24:37,518 --> 01:24:40,255
and says, "You will never get
me to ----ing do this again."
1303
01:24:43,161 --> 01:24:45,065
Six years of work.
1304
01:24:45,098 --> 01:24:47,871
2004 to 2010.
1305
01:24:47,937 --> 01:24:50,877
I finally get him
to confess...
1306
01:24:50,943 --> 01:24:53,315
and I just lost
this guy forever.
1307
01:24:55,987 --> 01:24:59,628
After Cottingham confessed
to the murder of Nancy Vogel,
1308
01:24:59,661 --> 01:25:02,265
he told me that murder
was not his first.
1309
01:25:11,251 --> 01:25:13,021
It got my mind
thinking of...
1310
01:25:13,055 --> 01:25:14,691
how many could
be out there?
1311
01:25:14,791 --> 01:25:17,029
I'm convinced that he's good
for more than just
1312
01:25:17,062 --> 01:25:19,367
the one that he's
confessed to,
1313
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,339
but I still have 11 of these
cases unsolved.
1314
01:25:28,418 --> 01:25:31,257
She would have
fought for her life.
1315
01:25:31,291 --> 01:25:33,028
A rope was reportedly
tied around
1316
01:25:33,061 --> 01:25:34,497
one of the girls' necks.
1317
01:25:34,531 --> 01:25:37,436
There's this fear that
went through everybody.
1318
01:25:37,470 --> 01:25:40,109
She was just headed home.
1319
01:25:40,142 --> 01:25:42,146
Is there anything
more powerful than
1320
01:25:42,179 --> 01:25:45,118
believing you are God?
1321
01:25:45,151 --> 01:25:47,524
Once he had them in the car...
1322
01:25:47,557 --> 01:25:49,327
they were his.
1323
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,766
I was not done with him.
1324
01:25:51,832 --> 01:25:54,136
I'm not letting this
guy get away with it.
1325
01:25:54,169 --> 01:25:55,973
It was the game.
1326
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,712
It was like the perfect
murder every time.
1327
01:25:58,812 --> 01:26:01,518
How am I ever going
to get back on track?
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