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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,669 --> 00:00:20,206 [Monitor continues beeping] 2 00:01:01,322 --> 00:01:03,460 [Anzilotti] This is Richard Cottingham. 3 00:01:03,493 --> 00:01:06,534 By all accounts, he's dying. 4 00:01:06,567 --> 00:01:08,303 Personally, I think he's like a cockroach and 5 00:01:08,336 --> 00:01:10,173 he just lives forever. 6 00:01:24,035 --> 00:01:25,304 In the world of serial killers, 7 00:01:25,337 --> 00:01:26,774 I would rank Richard Cottingham 8 00:01:26,807 --> 00:01:28,544 up there with the worst of them. 9 00:01:28,577 --> 00:01:30,213 [Reporter] ...firemen were the first to arrive on the 10 00:01:30,246 --> 00:01:32,451 scene at about 9:30 this morning. 11 00:01:32,484 --> 00:01:34,321 Two women were found decapitated, 12 00:01:34,355 --> 00:01:36,292 with their hands cut off as well. 13 00:01:39,365 --> 00:01:42,371 It could be up to 100 women that he's killed... 14 00:01:42,404 --> 00:01:44,643 New Jersey, and beyond. 15 00:01:44,676 --> 00:01:48,383 He's flown under the radar all this time... 16 00:01:48,417 --> 00:01:51,790 because he's not given up all of his crimes. 17 00:01:54,328 --> 00:02:00,073 After 18 years of time with this savage... 18 00:02:00,173 --> 00:02:04,248 I've been able to get a number of confessions. 19 00:02:04,281 --> 00:02:06,954 It was a flat-out negotiation. 20 00:02:07,121 --> 00:02:08,624 He's the king of all deals. 21 00:02:08,657 --> 00:02:13,133 It's all about, "What are you gonna do for me?" 22 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,437 That was a big thing for him, control. 23 00:02:17,441 --> 00:02:21,449 My game with him was to get him to confess... 24 00:02:21,482 --> 00:02:24,856 To bring a measure of peace and 25 00:02:24,889 --> 00:02:27,128 closure to the victims' families. 26 00:02:27,194 --> 00:02:29,132 Their minds, over these decades, 27 00:02:29,198 --> 00:02:32,071 race with theories and race with suspects, 28 00:02:32,171 --> 00:02:35,377 some of whom were in their own families. 29 00:02:35,410 --> 00:02:37,448 They want to know what happened. 30 00:02:39,285 --> 00:02:42,358 Richard Cottingham is responsible for a lot more. 31 00:02:45,832 --> 00:02:47,367 I was not done with him. 32 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,140 You can take all the serial killers there's ever been. 33 00:02:50,206 --> 00:02:52,477 There's not been one like me. 34 00:03:27,314 --> 00:03:28,551 In the year 2000, 35 00:03:28,585 --> 00:03:32,625 I was assigned a series of cold cases. 36 00:03:32,658 --> 00:03:38,069 The majority of them were from 1974 through 1965. 37 00:03:41,510 --> 00:03:44,415 When I pulled the cases, the evidence officer 38 00:03:44,448 --> 00:03:48,323 gives me boxes and boxes and boxes... 39 00:03:48,357 --> 00:03:50,327 Report after report, 40 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,498 lab results after lab results, 41 00:03:52,532 --> 00:03:54,669 crime scene photo after crime scene photo. 42 00:03:57,074 --> 00:04:00,748 I was pretty much the new guy in the homicide squad and, 43 00:04:00,781 --> 00:04:03,588 this was an overwhelming and daunting task... 44 00:04:03,621 --> 00:04:06,727 for somebody that was kind of 45 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,666 green around the gills. 46 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:12,438 What I didn't know when I first started digging through 47 00:04:12,471 --> 00:04:15,745 those files was that it would ignite a fire inside of me. 48 00:04:19,251 --> 00:04:22,124 There were twelve cases. 49 00:04:22,258 --> 00:04:25,097 There were a number of girls that were 50 00:04:25,264 --> 00:04:27,602 either last seen hitchhiking... 51 00:04:27,636 --> 00:04:30,675 or had been picked up by a stranger. 52 00:04:30,708 --> 00:04:33,112 Ultimately, raped and then murdered, 53 00:04:33,246 --> 00:04:37,555 dumped in and around Bergen County. 54 00:04:37,588 --> 00:04:40,360 Bergen County is situated in the northern part of 55 00:04:40,426 --> 00:04:42,865 New Jersey, and it is just across the Hudson River 56 00:04:42,899 --> 00:04:45,136 from New York City. 57 00:04:47,575 --> 00:04:50,280 The whole community was in shock. 58 00:04:50,347 --> 00:04:52,652 Kids stopped walking home from school. 59 00:04:52,685 --> 00:04:54,756 All these girls were innocent. 60 00:04:54,789 --> 00:04:57,529 Innocent kids. 61 00:04:57,562 --> 00:05:00,433 You know, they had a life ahead of them. 62 00:05:00,466 --> 00:05:02,539 There were a lot of theories. 63 00:05:02,572 --> 00:05:05,477 They never found who did it. 64 00:05:05,512 --> 00:05:07,782 And it went on for a long time. 65 00:05:09,385 --> 00:05:10,721 Everybody was a suspect. 66 00:05:10,755 --> 00:05:13,193 Even back in the beginning days... 67 00:05:13,226 --> 00:05:16,533 the priest of the church was a suspect. 68 00:05:18,403 --> 00:05:20,507 It never seemed to go anywhere. 69 00:05:20,541 --> 00:05:23,179 Guy going around killing girls from Bergen County, 70 00:05:23,313 --> 00:05:26,954 you figure somebody knew something. 71 00:05:26,987 --> 00:05:28,925 My life changed immediately. 72 00:05:28,958 --> 00:05:30,895 I had no more sister. 73 00:05:30,929 --> 00:05:32,699 My family wanted answers. 74 00:05:32,732 --> 00:05:38,309 Who, where, when, why? We had no idea. 75 00:05:38,376 --> 00:05:40,848 You go from one as young as 13, and then, 76 00:05:40,882 --> 00:05:44,756 you know, one as old as 29 years old. 77 00:05:44,789 --> 00:05:46,493 They're wildly different in some aspects 78 00:05:46,527 --> 00:05:48,664 of their victimology. 79 00:05:50,534 --> 00:05:53,373 At the time, the community of Bergen County is just really 80 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:55,477 on edge, and the police are just all-in trying to 81 00:05:55,511 --> 00:05:57,415 figure out if there's any commonalities 82 00:05:57,448 --> 00:05:59,385 between these killings. 83 00:05:59,418 --> 00:06:01,623 They're not finding any. 84 00:06:03,594 --> 00:06:06,366 They had several main suspects... 85 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:08,603 who may or may not have been involved. 86 00:06:10,842 --> 00:06:14,682 There was a convicted rapist, Raymond Alves. 87 00:06:14,716 --> 00:06:17,955 He claimed he'd killed 15 women, 88 00:06:17,989 --> 00:06:20,794 and he was up for parole. 89 00:06:20,828 --> 00:06:24,368 There was Robert Reldan, a former honor student 90 00:06:24,435 --> 00:06:27,374 who had been involved in rapes. 91 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,646 Another suspect was Joe Kallinger, 92 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,717 who was known as 'The Shoemaker' for a knife that 93 00:06:31,750 --> 00:06:35,423 he used in a murder spree in three states, 94 00:06:35,490 --> 00:06:37,628 which ended in Bergen County... 95 00:06:37,662 --> 00:06:40,801 with the death of a nurse. 96 00:06:40,834 --> 00:06:43,908 I went through all these suspects. 97 00:06:43,941 --> 00:06:48,383 I flew all over the country following leads. 98 00:06:48,450 --> 00:06:50,387 And they all went nowhere. 99 00:06:50,454 --> 00:06:52,559 The one name that I couldn't eliminate 100 00:06:52,592 --> 00:06:54,896 was Richard Cottingham. 101 00:06:58,704 --> 00:07:00,842 Richard Cottingham In 1980, 102 00:07:00,875 --> 00:07:06,385 had been convicted of killing five women. 103 00:07:06,452 --> 00:07:08,089 Three were in New York City, 104 00:07:08,123 --> 00:07:09,960 two were in Bergen County. 105 00:07:09,993 --> 00:07:12,933 Those killings in Times Square dubbed him 106 00:07:12,966 --> 00:07:16,640 'The Torso Killer' by the New York media. 107 00:07:16,673 --> 00:07:19,411 Because several of the victims had 108 00:07:19,478 --> 00:07:21,983 their heads cut off, their hands cut off, 109 00:07:22,017 --> 00:07:23,754 and the room lit on fire. 110 00:07:25,691 --> 00:07:27,662 He ultimately got caught in Bergen County 111 00:07:27,696 --> 00:07:29,999 trying to rape and kill another woman... 112 00:07:30,033 --> 00:07:34,509 at a local motel in Hasbrouck Heights, New Jersey. 113 00:07:34,576 --> 00:07:36,613 [News] Cottingham is being held in a jail adjacent to 114 00:07:36,646 --> 00:07:38,449 the Bergen County Courthouse. 115 00:07:38,517 --> 00:07:40,487 He was originally charged with aggravated sexual 116 00:07:40,555 --> 00:07:42,658 assault and attempted murder of a woman thought to be 117 00:07:42,692 --> 00:07:45,965 a prostitute on May 22nd, in a Jersey motel. 118 00:07:45,999 --> 00:07:49,471 [Anzilotti] Of these 12 cold case homicides that 119 00:07:49,539 --> 00:07:51,142 I'm investigating, some of them were 120 00:07:51,175 --> 00:07:54,583 all centered around this area. 121 00:07:54,649 --> 00:07:58,857 Cottingham was incarcerated since his arrest in 1980. 122 00:07:58,891 --> 00:08:01,696 In the years that followed, some NYPD detectives, 123 00:08:01,730 --> 00:08:04,468 as well as Bergen County detectives attempted to 124 00:08:04,536 --> 00:08:08,476 gain his cooperation in unsolved murders. 125 00:08:08,544 --> 00:08:10,982 Unfortunately, it never materialized into anything. 126 00:08:17,628 --> 00:08:19,532 Everything I knew about him at that point was 127 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:22,605 focused in the late 70s, up until 1980. 128 00:08:22,638 --> 00:08:24,075 Had no idea if he could have been operating 129 00:08:24,108 --> 00:08:26,479 in the 60s or early 70s. 130 00:08:26,547 --> 00:08:28,116 But certainly, it was a possibility 131 00:08:28,149 --> 00:08:29,919 just based on his age. 132 00:08:29,953 --> 00:08:31,990 So, he was always just lingering in the back of 133 00:08:32,023 --> 00:08:34,461 my head as like, hey, one day, I gotta get to this guy 134 00:08:34,562 --> 00:08:36,833 Cottingham and see if he's good for any of these. 135 00:08:41,710 --> 00:08:44,115 In 2003, I got promoted to sergeant, 136 00:08:44,148 --> 00:08:45,984 and that's when I moved on to the street crimes unit. 137 00:08:46,018 --> 00:08:48,523 It was known as the Special Investigations Squad. 138 00:08:48,590 --> 00:08:49,726 And as a sergeant, 139 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,830 I was responsible for a number of detectives. 140 00:08:51,863 --> 00:08:54,703 We were putting together really big cases. 141 00:08:54,736 --> 00:08:56,573 But in between there, I made sure I always 142 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,515 found the time for my cold case work. 143 00:09:00,581 --> 00:09:02,417 There was many a Sunday night 144 00:09:02,552 --> 00:09:04,656 where I'd put the kids to bed and, 145 00:09:04,689 --> 00:09:07,027 I would take an A to Z file full of reports and 146 00:09:07,060 --> 00:09:09,832 crime scene photos... 147 00:09:09,866 --> 00:09:11,970 and just pour a glass of wine at my dining room table 148 00:09:12,003 --> 00:09:13,607 and just... 149 00:09:13,674 --> 00:09:15,578 spend hours poring over the cases and taking notes, 150 00:09:15,612 --> 00:09:17,649 just on my own time. 151 00:09:17,716 --> 00:09:19,852 Doing these cold cases was not my only job or 152 00:09:19,886 --> 00:09:22,423 my only assignment, by any stretch. 153 00:09:22,490 --> 00:09:25,932 You've got a whole bunch of cases that you're assigned to. 154 00:09:25,965 --> 00:09:27,868 You've got other homicides, 155 00:09:27,902 --> 00:09:31,676 you've got active organized crime investigations. 156 00:09:31,709 --> 00:09:35,082 Yet, you had to find time to work the cold cases 157 00:09:35,116 --> 00:09:39,058 because we never, ever close them. 158 00:09:39,091 --> 00:09:40,728 Never. 159 00:09:40,761 --> 00:09:43,032 [Anzilotti] Having daughters... 160 00:09:43,065 --> 00:09:45,938 and then investigating the rapes and murders of these 161 00:09:45,971 --> 00:09:48,977 young girls, as teenagers, really hit home for me. 162 00:09:49,011 --> 00:09:50,648 And I wanted to give these families 163 00:09:50,681 --> 00:09:52,718 some sense of justice. 164 00:09:57,995 --> 00:10:00,567 I just grew so attached to these cases. 165 00:10:00,634 --> 00:10:02,872 I knew them inside and out. 166 00:10:02,906 --> 00:10:04,909 I had been studying them for years, 167 00:10:04,942 --> 00:10:06,713 kind of on a part-time basis, 168 00:10:06,746 --> 00:10:09,719 and got very passionate about it. 169 00:10:09,752 --> 00:10:11,590 But I wasn't making any inroads, 170 00:10:11,656 --> 00:10:15,397 and that really just nagged at me. 171 00:10:15,564 --> 00:10:16,733 I never wanted to forget them, 172 00:10:16,767 --> 00:10:18,737 I never wanted to give up on them. 173 00:10:20,942 --> 00:10:25,784 In just researching some different suspects... 174 00:10:25,818 --> 00:10:28,757 the name Richard Cottingham kept coming up again. 175 00:10:31,095 --> 00:10:33,701 I was aware that other detectives before me had 176 00:10:33,767 --> 00:10:37,742 tried to speak to Cottingham, and he never cooperated. 177 00:10:37,809 --> 00:10:39,913 How am I going to get this guy Cottingham to talk to me? 178 00:10:44,221 --> 00:10:47,093 By sheer coincidence, Cottingham was housed in the 179 00:10:47,127 --> 00:10:50,767 same prison, on the same wing with 'The Iceman'. 180 00:10:54,909 --> 00:10:58,917 Besides these 12 cold cases involving young females, 181 00:10:58,950 --> 00:11:00,922 I was also looking into a number of 182 00:11:00,955 --> 00:11:03,994 other cold case homicides... 183 00:11:04,027 --> 00:11:07,935 some of which involved mob-style hits. 184 00:11:07,968 --> 00:11:12,143 This led me to Richard 'The Iceman' Kuklinski. 185 00:11:12,177 --> 00:11:14,849 The Iceman was at that time incarcerated for 186 00:11:14,883 --> 00:11:16,619 a number of homicides that he had committed 187 00:11:16,686 --> 00:11:18,690 in and around Bergen County. 188 00:11:18,757 --> 00:11:21,964 He purported himself to be a hitman for the mob. 189 00:11:21,997 --> 00:11:24,234 He was very boastful about his killings, 190 00:11:24,268 --> 00:11:26,706 and his ties to the mafia. 191 00:11:26,773 --> 00:11:28,977 It is New Jersey, and we're certainly well-known, 192 00:11:29,010 --> 00:11:31,482 especially back then, for our traditional organized crime. 193 00:11:31,650 --> 00:11:33,119 The typical La Cosa Nostra, 194 00:11:33,152 --> 00:11:35,691 Soprano-style organized crime cases: 195 00:11:35,757 --> 00:11:37,261 loansharking, illegal gambling, 196 00:11:37,294 --> 00:11:40,801 extortion, prostitution. 197 00:11:40,835 --> 00:11:43,172 Kuklinski got the nickname 'The Iceman' 198 00:11:43,205 --> 00:11:46,145 because he actually killed somebody, 199 00:11:46,179 --> 00:11:48,082 put them in a freezer to try and change the body 200 00:11:48,115 --> 00:11:50,120 temperature to fool the medical examiner. 201 00:11:53,025 --> 00:11:54,729 Well, he got caught eventually for it so, 202 00:11:54,796 --> 00:11:56,098 I don't know how much it worked, but... 203 00:11:56,131 --> 00:11:58,202 All these guys think they're so ----ing smart. 204 00:12:00,239 --> 00:12:02,010 I spent hundreds of hours with him. 205 00:12:02,043 --> 00:12:04,214 I'd have him transported up from the prison. 206 00:12:04,247 --> 00:12:06,553 He'd stay at the Bergen County Jail. 207 00:12:06,719 --> 00:12:08,055 Eventually, I developed a 208 00:12:08,089 --> 00:12:11,095 relationship with him. really good 209 00:12:11,128 --> 00:12:13,199 He began to trust me enough that I got a number of 210 00:12:13,232 --> 00:12:15,103 unsolved homicides out of him. 211 00:12:17,007 --> 00:12:19,846 Rob built such a relationship with Kuklinski that 212 00:12:19,879 --> 00:12:22,718 Kuklinski became Rob's informant... 213 00:12:22,785 --> 00:12:26,927 on anything that Kuklinski could come up with. 214 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,267 I figured this might be a way to get to Cottingham. 215 00:12:30,300 --> 00:12:33,139 One particular interview, I bring up his name. 216 00:12:33,172 --> 00:12:35,009 And I'm like, "Hey, do you know this guy, Cottingham?" 217 00:12:35,042 --> 00:12:38,851 And Kuklinski had the most, just vile reaction, 218 00:12:38,918 --> 00:12:42,190 and he just was like, "I hate that scumbag." 219 00:12:42,224 --> 00:12:43,894 And he's like, "What kind of an animal 220 00:12:43,927 --> 00:12:46,031 does these things to women?" 221 00:12:58,189 --> 00:13:00,260 Richard Kuklinski, known as 'The Iceman', 222 00:13:00,293 --> 00:13:03,032 was housed in New Jersey State Prison. 223 00:13:03,065 --> 00:13:06,138 The Iceman is probably one of the most foreboding 224 00:13:06,172 --> 00:13:09,277 individuals I've ever seen in my life. 225 00:13:09,310 --> 00:13:11,415 He was like 6"8, 226 00:13:11,448 --> 00:13:13,920 just a huge human being. 227 00:13:13,953 --> 00:13:15,758 He had a hair-trigger temper. 228 00:13:15,825 --> 00:13:17,895 This is unwarranted. 229 00:13:17,928 --> 00:13:20,132 Unnecessary. 230 00:13:20,166 --> 00:13:23,039 These guys watch too many movies. 231 00:13:23,072 --> 00:13:25,210 He could be a really scary dude. 232 00:13:27,982 --> 00:13:30,019 The strange twist to my relationship with The Iceman 233 00:13:30,052 --> 00:13:32,926 is that during our conversations... 234 00:13:32,959 --> 00:13:35,865 when I asked Kuklinski about Cottingham, 235 00:13:35,931 --> 00:13:40,139 it became quickly evident that he despised Cottingham. 236 00:13:40,173 --> 00:13:43,045 To kind of get this from this big, giant of a, 237 00:13:43,079 --> 00:13:44,816 of a guy who kills people, 238 00:13:44,883 --> 00:13:47,721 and now he's got his own moral code 239 00:13:47,855 --> 00:13:49,959 where he's disgusted by this other killer. 240 00:13:49,992 --> 00:13:53,066 So, he began to cooperate with me and kind of 241 00:13:53,099 --> 00:13:54,969 give me some dirt on Cottingham. 242 00:14:26,031 --> 00:14:27,835 Turns out- Kuklinski explains to me- 243 00:14:27,935 --> 00:14:30,039 Cottingham ran an illegal gambling operation 244 00:14:30,072 --> 00:14:31,976 within the prison. 245 00:14:34,314 --> 00:14:37,921 So, he used to run like, like football and baseball and 246 00:14:37,988 --> 00:14:40,059 all sorts of gambling through these tickets, right? 247 00:14:40,092 --> 00:14:43,065 Like, like an illegal lottery. 248 00:14:43,099 --> 00:14:45,737 And I decided that that would be my in. 249 00:14:50,581 --> 00:14:52,985 In early 2004, the Super Bowl 250 00:14:53,019 --> 00:14:56,191 that year was in Houston, Texas. 251 00:14:56,225 --> 00:14:58,228 I'd never been to a Super Bowl. 252 00:15:00,233 --> 00:15:02,236 I thought it'd be really cool if me and my dad 253 00:15:02,270 --> 00:15:05,042 took the trip out there, and took in the game. 254 00:15:05,076 --> 00:15:07,715 I had amazing seats. 255 00:15:07,782 --> 00:15:10,253 The only thing that detracted from my Super Bowl experience 256 00:15:10,287 --> 00:15:13,961 was the anxiousness and the anxiety... 257 00:15:14,028 --> 00:15:15,964 wondering whether this plan that I had 258 00:15:15,997 --> 00:15:18,102 was actually going to work. 259 00:15:19,873 --> 00:15:23,079 Having years of prior experience 260 00:15:23,112 --> 00:15:24,916 in the Organized Crime Squad, 261 00:15:24,982 --> 00:15:26,318 investigating illegal gambling, 262 00:15:26,352 --> 00:15:29,257 doing undercover work, purporting to be a bookmaker, 263 00:15:29,290 --> 00:15:32,431 I understand there's no crazier gambling day 264 00:15:32,464 --> 00:15:34,234 than Super Bowl Sunday. 265 00:15:38,008 --> 00:15:41,282 In the weeks that led up to that Super Bowl Sunday, 266 00:15:41,315 --> 00:15:43,186 I made all the arrangements with 267 00:15:43,219 --> 00:15:45,089 the investigators at the prison, 268 00:15:45,122 --> 00:15:48,295 gave them all the information they needed to... 269 00:15:48,328 --> 00:15:51,301 enact my plan... 270 00:15:51,334 --> 00:15:54,441 for Cottingham's cell to be raided by prison officials 271 00:15:54,474 --> 00:15:59,150 the morning after Super Bowl Sunday. 272 00:15:59,184 --> 00:16:01,021 When they searched his cell, 273 00:16:01,088 --> 00:16:02,958 they found evidence of the gambling operation, 274 00:16:03,025 --> 00:16:07,033 and Cottingham was thrown into the hole. 275 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:09,071 In the prison system, 'the hole' was 276 00:16:09,104 --> 00:16:11,374 basically solitary confinement. 277 00:16:13,312 --> 00:16:14,815 You were removed from your cell, 278 00:16:14,949 --> 00:16:16,384 all your privileges were revoked. 279 00:16:16,418 --> 00:16:18,624 You didn't go outside, you had no fresh air. 280 00:16:18,657 --> 00:16:20,527 There's no air conditioning. 281 00:16:20,561 --> 00:16:23,867 The New Jersey prison at the time was old and, 282 00:16:23,933 --> 00:16:26,171 it was not fun. 283 00:16:28,109 --> 00:16:29,344 Several days later, 284 00:16:29,378 --> 00:16:32,283 I go down to the prison with my partner. 285 00:16:35,390 --> 00:16:36,960 They pull him out of the hole, 286 00:16:37,026 --> 00:16:39,464 and bring him to an interview room. 287 00:16:39,498 --> 00:16:43,005 I see this nearly 60-year-old guy, 288 00:16:43,072 --> 00:16:47,313 long white beard... belly. 289 00:16:47,346 --> 00:16:51,288 Looking like a Santa Claus with a really bad hangover. 290 00:16:51,321 --> 00:16:53,026 You know, his eyes were bloodshot. 291 00:16:53,059 --> 00:16:56,131 He's dripping in sweat. 292 00:16:56,165 --> 00:16:57,902 And I just looked at him and told him, 293 00:16:58,035 --> 00:16:59,404 "I'm the reason you're in there." 294 00:17:04,347 --> 00:17:07,286 He looked at me with some pretty wild eyes. 295 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:09,091 And I didn't even give him a chance to respond and was 296 00:17:09,157 --> 00:17:11,328 just like, "I am going to make your life a living hell 297 00:17:11,362 --> 00:17:13,365 unless we have a conversation." 298 00:17:32,504 --> 00:17:34,708 He, of course, did not confess to anything. 299 00:17:34,742 --> 00:17:36,278 Didn't agree to anything. 300 00:17:36,312 --> 00:17:38,483 The only thing he would agree to is... 301 00:17:38,517 --> 00:17:41,322 that he would be willing to have continued 302 00:17:41,355 --> 00:17:43,827 conversations with me on one condition. 303 00:17:44,027 --> 00:17:45,463 And that condition was, 304 00:17:45,496 --> 00:17:47,266 if I ever tried to mess with him again like this, 305 00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:49,204 our relationship would be over. 306 00:17:51,509 --> 00:17:53,680 Thankfully, my gut intuition told me 307 00:17:53,713 --> 00:17:56,218 that he wasn't bluffing, 308 00:17:56,251 --> 00:17:58,523 and that the right move was to just try and 309 00:17:58,556 --> 00:18:03,399 begin to schmooze him and begin to develop a trust. 310 00:18:03,432 --> 00:18:05,035 I needed to 311 00:18:05,135 --> 00:18:07,173 take a different tact than that initial approach. 312 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,512 That the tough guy routine wasn't going to work with him. 313 00:18:19,264 --> 00:18:23,305 I started with Richard Cottingham in early 2004. 314 00:18:23,338 --> 00:18:25,611 I had no idea what cases he might be responsible for. 315 00:18:25,644 --> 00:18:27,948 It was just a feeling that maybe he was 316 00:18:28,082 --> 00:18:30,253 responsible for some of them. 317 00:18:33,125 --> 00:18:36,532 I was visiting him at the prison. 318 00:18:36,566 --> 00:18:39,772 I just told him, "Hey, I think you committed crimes 319 00:18:39,806 --> 00:18:41,542 long before you were arrested." 320 00:19:12,203 --> 00:19:13,940 I spent a lot of time with him to try and build a 321 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,444 relationship, but he refused to talk about anything new. 322 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:40,325 Anzilotti understood he was in it for the long game. 323 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,134 And that means he's going to spend a lot of time and 324 00:19:44,234 --> 00:19:48,141 come away with nothing, time after time after time. 325 00:19:48,241 --> 00:19:51,649 But, if he played it right and he stayed vigilant 326 00:19:51,683 --> 00:19:54,220 for the weak spots, 327 00:19:54,253 --> 00:19:56,124 the openings... 328 00:19:56,224 --> 00:19:58,597 he would be able to get information. 329 00:20:01,134 --> 00:20:03,472 And it's difficult to... 330 00:20:03,506 --> 00:20:05,443 spend hours with someone and feel like 331 00:20:05,476 --> 00:20:07,113 you're not accomplishing anything. 332 00:20:07,213 --> 00:20:11,221 But like water dropping on a rock, okay... 333 00:20:11,288 --> 00:20:14,394 eventually the rock begins to smooth out and change. 334 00:20:14,428 --> 00:20:17,601 You're going to crack it. 335 00:20:17,635 --> 00:20:21,375 Rob was persistent, he never gave up. 336 00:20:21,408 --> 00:20:23,680 Rob Anzilotti was handpicked because of 337 00:20:23,714 --> 00:20:27,888 who Rob Anzilotti was. He was just a great cop. 338 00:20:32,698 --> 00:20:35,303 I did not always want to be a cop. 339 00:20:35,369 --> 00:20:39,645 I was kind of a, you know, confused, mixed up teenager. 340 00:20:39,678 --> 00:20:42,350 I didn't know what the hell I wanted to do. 341 00:20:42,384 --> 00:20:44,588 My mom was a nurse. 342 00:20:44,622 --> 00:20:47,794 I always kind of just had a thing about helping people. 343 00:20:47,828 --> 00:20:50,567 So, I became a paramedic. 344 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,436 Worked in Newark for a while. 345 00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:54,775 It was during the crack epidemic, very violent city. 346 00:20:54,809 --> 00:20:57,715 Saw a lot of, lot of crazy stuff. 347 00:20:57,748 --> 00:20:59,484 That's what brought me to law enforcement, 348 00:20:59,518 --> 00:21:01,856 just seeing how hard the cops worked and 349 00:21:01,889 --> 00:21:03,392 what they had to deal with. 350 00:21:03,425 --> 00:21:05,764 I loved it from the minute I put the uniform on. 351 00:21:07,868 --> 00:21:10,574 That same passion that I felt when I first put the uniform 352 00:21:10,607 --> 00:21:13,078 on was only amplified and magnified 353 00:21:13,245 --> 00:21:15,415 when I became a detective. 354 00:21:15,449 --> 00:21:16,685 In 2004, I was a sergeant in the 355 00:21:16,719 --> 00:21:19,291 Special Investigations Squad. 356 00:21:19,357 --> 00:21:21,428 The new chief formed that squad and hand-picked 357 00:21:21,461 --> 00:21:23,633 the people that go into it. 358 00:21:23,666 --> 00:21:25,937 I was given a lot of leeway to do... 359 00:21:25,971 --> 00:21:27,774 whatever I felt, without anyone 360 00:21:27,808 --> 00:21:30,580 interrupting me dealing with Cottingham. 361 00:21:32,751 --> 00:21:34,822 Once I was talking to Richard Cottingham 362 00:21:34,855 --> 00:21:36,659 for those early months, 363 00:21:36,692 --> 00:21:39,497 he would give me absolutely nothing. 364 00:21:39,531 --> 00:21:41,569 It was worse than pulling teeth, 365 00:21:41,602 --> 00:21:44,575 it was like just hitting a brick wall all the time. 366 00:21:44,609 --> 00:21:46,311 There was no way for me to let it go, 367 00:21:46,378 --> 00:21:48,550 because at some point, to let it go 368 00:21:48,583 --> 00:21:50,352 would be a complete failure, 369 00:21:50,385 --> 00:21:52,524 and I couldn't accept failure. 370 00:21:52,557 --> 00:21:55,697 I really saw these baby steps as an opportunity to get 371 00:21:55,730 --> 00:21:59,403 where I needed to go with these 12 cold cases. 372 00:21:59,437 --> 00:22:01,542 The best way to get there was 373 00:22:01,575 --> 00:22:03,479 to just get him talking all the time, 374 00:22:03,513 --> 00:22:06,418 and he grew comfortable talking about crimes 375 00:22:06,485 --> 00:22:08,589 that the world knew he committed already, 376 00:22:08,623 --> 00:22:12,731 crimes he went to trial on, crimes he was convicted of. 377 00:22:12,764 --> 00:22:16,673 Prior to his arrest, he went on this murderous... 378 00:22:16,706 --> 00:22:20,045 frenzy, in just a handful of weeks, 379 00:22:20,078 --> 00:22:21,849 when he was hunting prostitutes. 380 00:22:49,672 --> 00:22:52,511 I was on routine patrol that morning. 381 00:22:53,846 --> 00:22:57,486 And then, that first call on the radio came through. 382 00:22:59,625 --> 00:23:02,530 "Go down to the Quality Inn. 383 00:23:02,564 --> 00:23:04,802 There's a report of a woman screaming in a room." 384 00:23:06,906 --> 00:23:09,778 As I pulled into the motel parking lot, 385 00:23:09,812 --> 00:23:12,885 there was a man waving frantically. 386 00:23:12,918 --> 00:23:15,857 He says, "There's a man with a gun." 387 00:23:15,891 --> 00:23:19,531 ♪ [Suspenseful] ♪ 388 00:23:23,372 --> 00:23:25,810 We received a radio message 389 00:23:25,844 --> 00:23:29,918 about a woman screaming at the Quality Motel... 390 00:23:29,952 --> 00:23:32,825 in Hasbrouck Heights, on route 17. 391 00:23:35,429 --> 00:23:37,802 When I came into the small lobby, 392 00:23:37,835 --> 00:23:40,439 down the hallway from around the corner, 393 00:23:40,506 --> 00:23:43,646 I saw a man running towards me. 394 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,552 He was carrying a satchel, 395 00:23:46,585 --> 00:23:48,690 and he had a gun. 396 00:23:48,723 --> 00:23:50,794 As he rounded the corner... 397 00:23:50,827 --> 00:23:53,866 I yelled, "Stop, don't move!" 398 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:58,241 He stopped approximately one inch from the barrel. 399 00:23:58,408 --> 00:24:00,814 Had he moved his right hand, 400 00:24:00,847 --> 00:24:02,618 I would have pulled the trigger. 401 00:24:02,651 --> 00:24:04,822 There was no ifs, ands, or buts. 402 00:24:04,855 --> 00:24:08,261 He dropped all his parcels on the ground. 403 00:24:08,428 --> 00:24:10,867 He says, "I didn't do anything. 404 00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:14,307 I was with a hooker and got scared." 405 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,612 His name was Richard Cottingham. 406 00:24:20,687 --> 00:24:23,693 Inside the room, they found a young female 407 00:24:23,726 --> 00:24:27,735 identified as Leslie O'Dell. 408 00:24:27,768 --> 00:24:31,809 Leslie O'Dell was naked. 409 00:24:31,842 --> 00:24:36,051 She had handcuffs on her ankles. 410 00:24:36,084 --> 00:24:38,756 She recounted a story about 411 00:24:38,790 --> 00:24:41,595 how she had met a male in New York, 412 00:24:41,629 --> 00:24:45,803 and he had taken her to the motel. 413 00:24:45,837 --> 00:24:48,910 Leslie O'Dell was working as a streetwalker 414 00:24:48,943 --> 00:24:50,780 in New York City. 415 00:24:50,814 --> 00:24:53,786 Cottingham was able to convince her to come with him 416 00:24:53,819 --> 00:24:55,723 under the promise that he would give her money so 417 00:24:55,757 --> 00:24:59,497 she could get out of the prostitution business. 418 00:24:59,565 --> 00:25:01,134 So, she got into the car with Cottingham, 419 00:25:01,167 --> 00:25:03,104 they went to New Jersey. 420 00:25:05,409 --> 00:25:09,952 Next thing you know, they end up in the Quality Inn Motel. 421 00:25:09,986 --> 00:25:12,758 What started out as a simple sexual encounter 422 00:25:12,791 --> 00:25:16,364 suddenly escalated with bondage and torture. 423 00:25:19,103 --> 00:25:21,374 He was just beginning. 424 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,588 He handcuffed her on her ankles because 425 00:25:27,655 --> 00:25:30,794 he was afraid she was going to escape. 426 00:25:30,827 --> 00:25:33,733 She had adhesive tape on her mouth. 427 00:25:36,071 --> 00:25:39,512 He cut her in the area of her breasts, 428 00:25:39,578 --> 00:25:42,016 burned her with a cigarette... 429 00:25:42,049 --> 00:25:44,955 sodomized her. 430 00:25:44,988 --> 00:25:48,328 At some point, he decides he wants a tongue bath, 431 00:25:48,428 --> 00:25:51,603 which means he wants her to lick him all over his body. 432 00:25:51,636 --> 00:25:52,937 But in order to do that, 433 00:25:52,971 --> 00:25:56,077 he has to take the tape off her mouth. 434 00:25:56,110 --> 00:25:59,684 She saw an opportunity, she lets out a scream. 435 00:26:04,895 --> 00:26:06,766 [Knocking] 436 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,636 Richard Cottingham is standing behind 437 00:26:08,703 --> 00:26:10,774 Leslie O'Dell with a knife to her back: 438 00:26:10,807 --> 00:26:14,582 "Tell her everything's okay." 439 00:26:14,648 --> 00:26:18,488 "Is everything okay?" "Yes." 440 00:26:18,589 --> 00:26:21,061 At this point, he realizes the jig is up. 441 00:26:23,666 --> 00:26:26,505 Everything begins to collapse. 442 00:26:26,605 --> 00:26:28,776 Richard Cottingham's going to be under arrest. 443 00:26:31,682 --> 00:26:33,719 And now they have a living witness. 444 00:26:38,796 --> 00:26:41,669 After Leslie Ann O'Dell is rescued by the police, 445 00:26:41,702 --> 00:26:43,639 they find a number of things. 446 00:26:43,672 --> 00:26:45,644 They find a bottle of whiskey. 447 00:26:45,711 --> 00:26:47,915 And he was known to be a big drinker. 448 00:26:47,948 --> 00:26:50,587 And encouraged his victims to drink. 449 00:26:50,654 --> 00:26:53,626 He would use drugs to drug his victims, 450 00:26:53,693 --> 00:26:55,797 barbiturates and other downers, so to speak, 451 00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:58,703 to kind of relax them, and then get them to pass out. 452 00:26:58,737 --> 00:27:00,807 You know, clearly, this is a mouth gag. 453 00:27:00,841 --> 00:27:03,145 Put it in, he would put it in somebody's mouth, 454 00:27:03,178 --> 00:27:05,049 tie the collar around. 455 00:27:05,082 --> 00:27:07,788 And, that would be a way to keep them silent. 456 00:27:07,821 --> 00:27:09,591 These chokers that I assume he would put on 457 00:27:09,658 --> 00:27:10,894 his victim's neck. 458 00:27:10,927 --> 00:27:12,797 So, these two pair of handcuffs. 459 00:27:12,831 --> 00:27:15,035 I have two daughters and, and for me, 460 00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:17,907 it comes to like I just couldn't fathom, you know, 461 00:27:17,941 --> 00:27:20,780 having one of my loved ones, one of my daughters... 462 00:27:20,813 --> 00:27:22,651 be brutally attacked like this by an animal. 463 00:27:22,684 --> 00:27:24,087 He's got kids. 464 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,728 He's got a girl, he has a wife that he didn't abuse, 465 00:27:27,761 --> 00:27:29,063 as far as I know. 466 00:27:29,096 --> 00:27:31,535 And yet, look at what he's doing to total strangers. 467 00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:33,071 I think he thought he was untouchable. 468 00:27:37,681 --> 00:27:39,184 Having looked at the crime scene photos 469 00:27:39,217 --> 00:27:40,820 of Leslie Ann O'Dell, 470 00:27:40,854 --> 00:27:43,124 there were some similarities to some of the unsolved 471 00:27:43,158 --> 00:27:45,964 cold cases that I had been looking at. 472 00:27:45,997 --> 00:27:49,303 Some of the victims of these cold cases had ligature marks 473 00:27:49,337 --> 00:27:51,374 on their ankles, on their wrists. 474 00:27:51,575 --> 00:27:54,815 Some were found tied up. 475 00:27:54,848 --> 00:27:57,119 By letting him just talk and ramble, 476 00:27:57,152 --> 00:28:00,727 I'm learning what makes him tick... 477 00:28:00,794 --> 00:28:02,396 and that was really, really important 478 00:28:02,597 --> 00:28:04,868 in those early years. 479 00:28:04,901 --> 00:28:06,471 He would talk in general terms about 480 00:28:06,639 --> 00:28:08,408 what he would call 'hunting'. 481 00:28:08,441 --> 00:28:10,346 So, I began to learn about, like, 482 00:28:10,379 --> 00:28:11,982 some of his killing methods. 483 00:28:38,201 --> 00:28:40,740 Does this guy have a beef with women? 484 00:28:40,807 --> 00:28:43,445 Is there something in his past that led him 485 00:28:43,478 --> 00:28:45,784 to become this killer that he is? 486 00:28:45,817 --> 00:28:47,854 I really had no idea. 487 00:28:49,891 --> 00:28:53,833 Richard Cottingham was a young family man. 488 00:28:53,866 --> 00:28:57,707 He lived in Lodi, New Jersey. 489 00:28:57,774 --> 00:29:00,179 A wife, three children... 490 00:29:00,212 --> 00:29:03,986 had a good job in the computer division of 491 00:29:04,020 --> 00:29:07,728 Blue Cross Blue Shield in New York. 492 00:29:07,794 --> 00:29:12,136 He was a smart individual, but very manipulative. 493 00:29:14,107 --> 00:29:17,045 His parents were decent people. 494 00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:20,018 He didn't come from a bad home. 495 00:29:20,052 --> 00:29:23,258 He comes from a Catholic background. 496 00:29:23,291 --> 00:29:24,293 He's always told me that 497 00:29:24,327 --> 00:29:26,063 he's not your typical serial killer. 498 00:30:06,177 --> 00:30:08,816 Richard Cottingham oversimplifies 499 00:30:08,883 --> 00:30:11,321 what it means to be a serial killer. 500 00:30:11,354 --> 00:30:14,928 And he seems to think that they all enjoy killing, 501 00:30:14,962 --> 00:30:16,064 and that isn't true. 502 00:30:16,097 --> 00:30:18,969 Only some of them enjoy killing. 503 00:30:19,003 --> 00:30:22,977 Many of them do exactly what he did- or said he did- 504 00:30:23,011 --> 00:30:26,986 which is to torture someone, and then 505 00:30:27,019 --> 00:30:29,157 remove the witness... 506 00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:31,962 and that is a lot of serial killers. 507 00:30:31,995 --> 00:30:33,966 He fits that. 508 00:31:04,026 --> 00:31:06,532 Because of the way that 509 00:31:06,565 --> 00:31:11,074 Leslie O'Dell was abused... 510 00:31:11,107 --> 00:31:14,848 made us suspect immediately 511 00:31:14,914 --> 00:31:17,052 that there was a connection to 512 00:31:17,085 --> 00:31:20,058 a number of unsolved homicides 513 00:31:20,092 --> 00:31:23,197 that occurred at the same motel. 514 00:31:35,021 --> 00:31:39,196 A maid cleaning room 132, while she's vacuuming, 515 00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:42,369 bumps into something under the bed. 516 00:31:42,403 --> 00:31:45,042 She looks under the bed, she lets out a scream. 517 00:31:56,464 --> 00:31:58,468 On May 22nd, 1980, 518 00:31:58,501 --> 00:32:01,875 Cottingham is caught at the Quality Inn in 519 00:32:01,975 --> 00:32:04,848 Hasbrouck Heights as he tries to flee the scene... 520 00:32:04,948 --> 00:32:10,025 after attempting to kill Leslie O'Dell. 521 00:32:10,058 --> 00:32:12,262 Staff had been totally on high alert, 522 00:32:12,295 --> 00:32:15,903 as had the local police, because just weeks earlier... 523 00:32:16,003 --> 00:32:19,177 another dead body was found stuffed under a bed 524 00:32:19,210 --> 00:32:22,316 in that same Quality Inn Motel. 525 00:32:22,349 --> 00:32:25,523 What the investigators find is 19-year-old, 526 00:32:25,556 --> 00:32:27,727 Valerie Street... 527 00:32:27,827 --> 00:32:29,865 a known prostitute who had just recently been arrested 528 00:32:29,932 --> 00:32:31,801 for prostitution offenses. 529 00:32:34,941 --> 00:32:38,181 Valerie Ann Street was naked. 530 00:32:38,214 --> 00:32:40,118 She had what appeared to be 531 00:32:40,152 --> 00:32:44,661 adhesive residue around her mouth. 532 00:32:44,694 --> 00:32:48,936 She had handcuffs on her wrists. 533 00:32:49,036 --> 00:32:52,543 There was a latent fingerprint that was lifted 534 00:32:52,577 --> 00:32:54,113 from the handcuffs, 535 00:32:54,146 --> 00:32:58,355 and that print was retained. 536 00:32:58,388 --> 00:33:01,427 Richard explained to me that he graduated- 537 00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:02,563 so to speak- 538 00:33:02,596 --> 00:33:07,808 to really focusing on raping and murdering prostitutes 539 00:33:07,974 --> 00:33:10,946 because he felt that they were 540 00:33:11,013 --> 00:33:15,489 less accountable in society. 541 00:33:15,523 --> 00:33:18,061 He has a story where, 542 00:33:18,128 --> 00:33:21,100 "Women would do anything I wanted." 543 00:33:21,134 --> 00:33:23,171 Which just tells you 544 00:33:23,204 --> 00:33:27,446 he would only go for women that would yield to him- 545 00:33:27,479 --> 00:33:30,318 for money or because they were young and scared and 546 00:33:30,351 --> 00:33:32,389 didn't know what else to do. 547 00:33:34,259 --> 00:33:38,101 Because of the similarities amongst those cases, 548 00:33:38,167 --> 00:33:41,307 we weren't just interested in what occurred with 549 00:33:41,340 --> 00:33:45,215 O'Dell, we were interested in other things. 550 00:33:45,248 --> 00:33:49,958 Almost three years before Valerie Ann Street's murder, 551 00:33:50,058 --> 00:33:53,732 another homicide had occurred at the Quality Inn. 552 00:33:59,109 --> 00:34:02,149 Maryann Carr was a young, attractive 553 00:34:02,183 --> 00:34:06,157 x-ray technician... 554 00:34:06,190 --> 00:34:10,164 who lived with her husband in an apartment 555 00:34:10,198 --> 00:34:13,071 at Ledgewood Terrace in Little Ferry. 556 00:34:13,137 --> 00:34:17,412 Her husband had been away on a business trip. 557 00:34:17,446 --> 00:34:19,518 When he attempted to get a hold of her, 558 00:34:19,551 --> 00:34:21,387 he wasn't able to. 559 00:34:21,420 --> 00:34:23,925 And after several tries he became concerned. 560 00:34:28,434 --> 00:34:32,009 The next morning, I was notified 561 00:34:32,109 --> 00:34:36,417 that a body had been found in the parking area 562 00:34:36,450 --> 00:34:39,757 of the Quality Inn Motel in Hasbrouck Heights. 563 00:34:47,172 --> 00:34:51,749 Maryann was lying near the parking area, 564 00:34:51,782 --> 00:34:55,388 next to a chain link fence. 565 00:34:55,421 --> 00:34:59,363 She's wearing her white x-ray tech uniform. 566 00:34:59,396 --> 00:35:02,402 She is lying and kind of curled up, 567 00:35:02,435 --> 00:35:04,473 where she obviously had been dumped. 568 00:35:07,278 --> 00:35:11,120 There are ligature marks on her hands and her feet. 569 00:35:11,187 --> 00:35:13,525 There are tears in her uniform. 570 00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:15,495 Somebody had sexually assaulted her and then 571 00:35:15,529 --> 00:35:17,133 redressed her. 572 00:35:17,166 --> 00:35:19,469 She had been strangled. 573 00:35:23,712 --> 00:35:27,587 You know, of my 12 cold cases involving these young women, 574 00:35:27,621 --> 00:35:29,323 the overwhelming majority of them were 575 00:35:29,357 --> 00:35:32,429 either strangled or suffocated. 576 00:35:37,038 --> 00:35:41,113 It was a mystery. 577 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:44,654 And there was no connection whatsoever between 578 00:35:44,688 --> 00:35:47,627 Maryann Carr and Valerie Street... 579 00:35:51,167 --> 00:35:53,805 Until they caught Richard Cottingham 580 00:35:53,839 --> 00:35:56,376 running from the building. 581 00:35:58,448 --> 00:36:02,790 We compared Cottingham's fingerprint to 582 00:36:02,824 --> 00:36:04,994 the latent fingerprint on 583 00:36:05,161 --> 00:36:07,567 Valerie Ann Street's handcuffs. 584 00:36:10,673 --> 00:36:13,411 And it was a homerun. 585 00:36:13,444 --> 00:36:15,415 We knew we had the right guy. 586 00:36:39,263 --> 00:36:42,637 He would not admit his guilt in any of it. 587 00:36:42,670 --> 00:36:45,274 It was like a game of cat and mouse between the two of us. 588 00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:25,355 You can't feed anything to them and 589 00:37:25,388 --> 00:37:27,560 put thoughts in their head. 590 00:37:27,593 --> 00:37:30,431 And that's also part of what this whole 591 00:37:30,465 --> 00:37:32,704 kind of grind is with him because, you know, 592 00:37:32,737 --> 00:37:34,541 he had no fear in talking about the things 593 00:37:34,574 --> 00:37:36,176 he was already convicted of, 594 00:37:36,276 --> 00:37:38,549 but he refused to talk about anything new. 595 00:37:39,784 --> 00:37:42,255 He's not just willing to just sit there and say to me, 596 00:37:42,322 --> 00:37:45,228 "In 1969, I remember killing this 15-year-old." 597 00:37:45,295 --> 00:37:47,265 It's not like that with him. 598 00:37:47,332 --> 00:37:48,535 You kind of have to just get 599 00:37:48,569 --> 00:37:52,710 these little bits and pieces and put it together. 600 00:37:52,743 --> 00:37:56,618 You're getting something, but you don't want the guy 601 00:37:56,651 --> 00:37:58,521 to know you're getting something, 602 00:37:58,555 --> 00:38:00,526 because he's trying to control that 603 00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,362 piece of information. 604 00:38:02,429 --> 00:38:04,667 And you have to be very cool about it... 605 00:38:04,701 --> 00:38:06,638 because he could shut it down and say, 606 00:38:06,671 --> 00:38:08,575 "That's it, no more talking." 607 00:38:08,608 --> 00:38:13,652 'Cause he realizes he just lost leverage. 608 00:38:13,685 --> 00:38:16,557 That's not okay for someone who needs control. 609 00:38:22,770 --> 00:38:26,778 We executed a search warrant at his house... 610 00:38:26,812 --> 00:38:30,184 and on his vehicles. 611 00:38:30,318 --> 00:38:34,393 He had a locked room in the basement. 612 00:38:34,427 --> 00:38:36,798 His wife, Janet, was asked about that, 613 00:38:36,832 --> 00:38:39,504 and she said, "Yes, that is his room. 614 00:38:39,537 --> 00:38:42,275 I know nothing about it. He keeps it locked, 615 00:38:42,342 --> 00:38:44,681 and I'm not allowed in there." 616 00:38:44,714 --> 00:38:48,354 She was in the process of filing for divorce from him. 617 00:38:48,421 --> 00:38:50,458 They had trouble in the marriage. 618 00:39:06,791 --> 00:39:09,631 His wife had said she was going to leave him and 619 00:39:09,664 --> 00:39:12,335 take his three kids with her. 620 00:39:12,402 --> 00:39:17,513 He blames that for the reason why he got, "sloppy". 621 00:39:44,801 --> 00:39:46,938 He doesn't want a divorce, necessarily, 622 00:39:46,971 --> 00:39:51,480 but that he cannot let her be the one in charge of that... 623 00:39:51,547 --> 00:39:54,888 and she was, she's the one who made the first move. 624 00:39:54,921 --> 00:39:57,627 Someone who is a narcissist like he is, 625 00:39:57,660 --> 00:40:00,532 his children are extensions of himself. 626 00:40:00,565 --> 00:40:02,537 There's an ownership thing there. 627 00:40:02,570 --> 00:40:05,408 She will not take them. 628 00:40:05,475 --> 00:40:08,682 She will not take the stability of his life. 629 00:40:13,726 --> 00:40:17,933 Inside that locked room were a number of items: 630 00:40:17,967 --> 00:40:23,946 money, some pornography magazines, 631 00:40:23,979 --> 00:40:25,849 women's jewellery, 632 00:40:25,883 --> 00:40:28,855 some articles of women's clothing. 633 00:40:31,661 --> 00:40:34,400 These were all books that were found in Cottingham's 634 00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:37,707 residence when the detectives searched his house. 635 00:40:37,740 --> 00:40:42,449 So, like, "Sex Victims: Stories of Surrender". 636 00:40:42,517 --> 00:40:43,852 There's, "The Prisoner of the Sheik," 637 00:40:43,886 --> 00:40:46,991 and a woman tied up on the cover. 638 00:40:47,025 --> 00:40:49,730 "Tied Up Teasers," with two women tied to a bed. 639 00:40:52,436 --> 00:40:53,605 "The Boyfriend's Revenge". 640 00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:56,009 Two men who look like they're about to rape a woman. 641 00:40:56,043 --> 00:40:57,847 So, finding these books, I'm sure the detectives 642 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,584 when they found them were like, 643 00:40:59,617 --> 00:41:02,624 "Wow, we just found gold here." 644 00:41:02,657 --> 00:41:05,796 Once Bergen County connected those cases... 645 00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:07,600 they're going to find out that 646 00:41:07,633 --> 00:41:10,371 it was much bigger than they thought it was. 647 00:41:10,471 --> 00:41:12,408 Firemen were the first to arrive at the scene 648 00:41:12,475 --> 00:41:14,479 at about 9:30 this morning. 649 00:41:14,547 --> 00:41:16,183 They were responding to a report of a fire in 650 00:41:16,383 --> 00:41:18,822 a west side hotel room. 651 00:41:18,855 --> 00:41:22,095 They find two young, nude bodies 652 00:41:22,128 --> 00:41:24,600 with no heads and hands. 653 00:41:24,634 --> 00:41:26,938 It was something out of a horror movie. 654 00:41:41,835 --> 00:41:43,839 The New York City Fire Department was called to the 655 00:41:43,872 --> 00:41:46,745 Travel Inn Hotel on West 42nd Street 656 00:41:46,778 --> 00:41:48,782 on a report of a fire. 657 00:41:52,021 --> 00:41:54,392 They went into the room, they dragged the 658 00:41:54,527 --> 00:41:56,798 body of a nude female from the room. 659 00:41:59,570 --> 00:42:01,574 Pulled it into the hallway, was about to give 660 00:42:01,641 --> 00:42:04,480 mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, but there was no head. 661 00:42:04,548 --> 00:42:09,056 ♪ [Suspenseful] ♪ 662 00:42:09,089 --> 00:42:11,126 And in an effort to cover up that homicide, 663 00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:14,466 their heads and hands had been removed and severed and 664 00:42:14,534 --> 00:42:15,636 taken from the scene. 665 00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:17,639 To this day, they've never been found. 666 00:42:20,011 --> 00:42:23,618 There were marks on their legs, arm, back, buttocks, 667 00:42:23,652 --> 00:42:25,989 incised marks, but also puncture marks. 668 00:42:28,762 --> 00:42:31,500 You're dealing with a psychopathic sexual sadist. 669 00:42:31,568 --> 00:42:34,139 This was pure evil. 670 00:42:34,172 --> 00:42:36,744 [News] Today police search for clues into the death of 671 00:42:36,778 --> 00:42:38,682 the young women, both white and about 672 00:42:38,716 --> 00:42:40,719 19 to 20 years old. 673 00:42:40,752 --> 00:42:43,091 A spokesman said the cuts were very clean. 674 00:42:43,124 --> 00:42:45,596 Probably inflicted with a butcher's tool, 675 00:42:45,662 --> 00:42:48,033 a surgical instrument, or sword. 676 00:42:52,141 --> 00:42:56,350 These two women had been held in that room for three days: 677 00:42:56,518 --> 00:42:58,655 November 29th to December 2nd. 678 00:43:36,798 --> 00:43:38,702 In an effort to identify the victims 679 00:43:38,736 --> 00:43:40,839 from the Travel Inn hotel, 680 00:43:40,872 --> 00:43:43,678 they came up with the creative idea of actually 681 00:43:43,745 --> 00:43:48,054 putting the victims' clothes on a mannequin... 682 00:43:48,087 --> 00:43:53,998 and then putting a picture of that in the newspaper. 683 00:43:54,032 --> 00:43:56,737 The news was all over the place. 684 00:43:58,875 --> 00:44:01,313 He was called the 'Torso Killer'. 685 00:44:05,823 --> 00:44:08,562 After two months, someone from New Jersey 686 00:44:08,662 --> 00:44:10,866 recognized the clothing of one person 687 00:44:10,899 --> 00:44:13,771 from the Midtown Torso case. 688 00:44:16,978 --> 00:44:19,249 That resulted in the positive identification 689 00:44:19,283 --> 00:44:21,822 of Deedeh Goodarzi. 690 00:44:21,855 --> 00:44:23,959 She was a prostitute. 691 00:44:25,729 --> 00:44:27,633 [News] Miss Goodarzi was born in Kuwait and 692 00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:29,870 came to the US when she was 14. 693 00:44:29,904 --> 00:44:31,941 Her family lives in Trenton, NJ. 694 00:44:31,975 --> 00:44:33,945 Police are still looking for information about the 695 00:44:33,978 --> 00:44:36,784 other victim, last seen wearing these clothes. 696 00:44:39,089 --> 00:44:41,426 Unfortunately, the second victim- to this day- 697 00:44:41,628 --> 00:44:42,930 remains a Jane Doe. 698 00:44:42,963 --> 00:44:44,667 The investigators, despite their best efforts, 699 00:44:44,734 --> 00:44:46,904 have never been able to identify her. 700 00:44:48,542 --> 00:44:51,046 Four months later, the body of yet another prostitute is 701 00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:54,954 found murdered at the Hotel Seville in Times Square. 702 00:44:54,988 --> 00:44:58,761 When the body was recovered, there were no clothes. 703 00:44:58,795 --> 00:45:00,632 He had taken the clothes. 704 00:45:00,699 --> 00:45:03,972 [Sirens continue] 705 00:45:09,016 --> 00:45:11,220 Firefighters were called to the Hotel Seville, 706 00:45:11,253 --> 00:45:14,694 which is at 29th Street and Madison Avenue. 707 00:45:14,761 --> 00:45:18,000 Once again, a hotel room was on fire. 708 00:45:18,034 --> 00:45:22,108 Inside the hotel room was a nude body of a victim. 709 00:45:25,783 --> 00:45:27,753 The body had been burned 710 00:45:27,819 --> 00:45:30,826 with the same type of torture marks 711 00:45:30,892 --> 00:45:34,132 that were on the girls at the Midtown Torso case. 712 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,013 And this time, the offender had defeminized the victim, 713 00:45:41,046 --> 00:45:43,819 removing both of her breasts. 714 00:45:43,885 --> 00:45:45,922 And that was pretty shocking because the breasts 715 00:45:45,956 --> 00:45:47,793 were then put on the headboard, 716 00:45:47,860 --> 00:45:50,131 presented by the offender to the authorities. 717 00:45:53,939 --> 00:45:56,143 That was a hotel room from hell. 718 00:45:56,176 --> 00:45:58,213 Only Satan could tell you what went on in there. 719 00:46:18,521 --> 00:46:19,924 The victim at the Hotel Seville 720 00:46:19,957 --> 00:46:21,627 was another prostitute. 721 00:46:21,761 --> 00:46:23,932 She was identified as Jean Ann Reyner. 722 00:46:28,542 --> 00:46:30,946 As I researched the cases that Cottingham had been 723 00:46:30,980 --> 00:46:34,085 convicted of, they were all so brutal in nature. 724 00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:36,991 Decapitation, defeminizing. 725 00:46:37,025 --> 00:46:40,933 And, those were very different than 726 00:46:40,966 --> 00:46:42,870 the 12 cold cases of these young women in 727 00:46:42,937 --> 00:46:45,609 Bergen County that I was investigating. 728 00:46:45,776 --> 00:46:47,211 So, at times I questioned: 729 00:46:47,245 --> 00:46:49,183 Am I wasting my time with Cottingham? 730 00:46:49,216 --> 00:46:51,821 Is he even responsible for any of these? 731 00:46:51,888 --> 00:46:54,392 But, as the interviews went on and on 732 00:46:54,426 --> 00:46:55,862 over the months and years, 733 00:46:55,929 --> 00:46:58,133 Cottingham would constantly explain to me that 734 00:46:58,167 --> 00:47:00,706 he always changed up his MO. 735 00:47:00,839 --> 00:47:02,843 So, he didn't want the police to think 736 00:47:02,910 --> 00:47:05,013 any of these killings were related. 737 00:47:09,957 --> 00:47:11,293 It didn't take the New York authorities less than a 738 00:47:11,327 --> 00:47:13,998 New York minute to connect these cases. 739 00:47:14,032 --> 00:47:15,434 And that's when New York communicated 740 00:47:15,468 --> 00:47:17,840 with Bergen County. 741 00:47:17,906 --> 00:47:20,244 A New York detective saw the paper, and said, 742 00:47:20,278 --> 00:47:24,319 "Listen, this might be our case." 743 00:47:24,353 --> 00:47:27,860 The New York City Homicide Task Force 744 00:47:27,927 --> 00:47:31,768 wanted to come over and view our evidence 745 00:47:31,868 --> 00:47:34,305 to see if there was a connection to three of 746 00:47:34,339 --> 00:47:38,146 their open homicides that occurred 747 00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:42,321 within months of Cottingham's arrest. 748 00:47:42,355 --> 00:47:44,994 They had executed a search warrant 749 00:47:45,027 --> 00:47:47,065 at his house in Lodi, New Jersey. 750 00:47:47,098 --> 00:47:49,002 They came upon a room that 751 00:47:49,035 --> 00:47:51,874 even Cottingham's wife was not allowed in. 752 00:47:51,907 --> 00:47:54,513 His trophy room. 753 00:47:54,546 --> 00:47:56,784 Serial killers, they collect 754 00:47:56,851 --> 00:47:58,855 trophies of their victims. 755 00:47:58,921 --> 00:48:00,458 Kind of like a hunting trophy, 756 00:48:00,491 --> 00:48:02,897 proof of the kill. 757 00:48:02,963 --> 00:48:04,934 That's how the cases were linked to New York, 758 00:48:04,967 --> 00:48:06,804 with the trophy room. 759 00:48:06,871 --> 00:48:08,206 So, this was big. 760 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:10,177 Our evidence was in New Jersey. 761 00:48:19,129 --> 00:48:21,032 After Cottingham's arrest, 762 00:48:21,166 --> 00:48:23,504 a search of his residence finds 763 00:48:23,537 --> 00:48:28,280 a necklace that ultimately is tied back to Jean Reyner. 764 00:48:32,656 --> 00:48:34,560 Jean Ann Reyner had been arrested 765 00:48:34,594 --> 00:48:36,997 a few days prior to the homicide, 766 00:48:37,064 --> 00:48:41,373 and in the BCI picture is the necklace on her neck. 767 00:48:41,407 --> 00:48:43,210 It's an exact match. 768 00:48:46,016 --> 00:48:48,487 There's still a very sick, sick killer on the loose. 769 00:48:48,521 --> 00:48:51,060 The man who cut off the, the heads and hands 770 00:48:51,093 --> 00:48:53,297 of two women in a Manhattan hotel room. 771 00:48:53,330 --> 00:48:56,336 Now, the police have a lot more questions than answers. 772 00:48:56,369 --> 00:48:58,106 It was three days ago that News Center 4 told you 773 00:48:58,140 --> 00:49:00,211 police in New Jersey believe they had a suspect in 774 00:49:00,244 --> 00:49:02,248 the brutal killings of several prostitutes. 775 00:49:02,282 --> 00:49:03,818 That report was confirmed today, 776 00:49:03,952 --> 00:49:05,387 with the arrest of a man by the name of 777 00:49:05,421 --> 00:49:07,057 Richard Cottingham. 778 00:49:25,996 --> 00:49:29,136 [Laughing] 779 00:49:29,169 --> 00:49:31,440 We never offered him a deal. 780 00:49:35,047 --> 00:49:38,220 We laid all of this out before the grand jury, 781 00:49:38,253 --> 00:49:40,424 and the grand jury returned an indictment 782 00:49:40,458 --> 00:49:43,531 for the crimes of assault and kidnapping 783 00:49:43,565 --> 00:49:45,401 against Leslie Ann O'Dell, 784 00:49:45,434 --> 00:49:49,476 with crime of murder against Valerie Ann Street. 785 00:49:52,081 --> 00:49:54,352 But it was entirely circumstantial against 786 00:49:54,385 --> 00:49:57,492 Maryann Carr, but her murder was also included 787 00:49:57,526 --> 00:49:59,295 in the same indictment. 788 00:50:01,499 --> 00:50:04,039 He pled not guilty and took every case to trial. 789 00:50:04,105 --> 00:50:06,042 Would not cooperate, would not... 790 00:50:06,075 --> 00:50:08,280 admit his guilt in any of it. 791 00:50:10,417 --> 00:50:13,157 The thing that put him at the scene of the 792 00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:16,363 Valerie Ann Street case was the fingerprint 793 00:50:16,397 --> 00:50:19,036 that had been taken off of the handcuffs 794 00:50:19,069 --> 00:50:22,141 that were on her body. 795 00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:27,452 We brought in Leslie Ann O'Dell. 796 00:50:27,485 --> 00:50:29,823 She was very reluctant to come to testify, 797 00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:32,095 but she was cooperative. 798 00:50:32,161 --> 00:50:36,336 She was very matter of fact, she remembered everything. 799 00:50:36,369 --> 00:50:39,142 She got on the stand and just levelled him. 800 00:50:39,175 --> 00:50:40,746 "He drugged me, raped me. 801 00:50:40,946 --> 00:50:45,021 He, he cut my breasts." 802 00:50:45,087 --> 00:50:48,160 And he just sat there stone-faced. 803 00:50:48,193 --> 00:50:51,299 But it didn't seem to faze him. 804 00:50:51,332 --> 00:50:53,505 He thought, "Ain't gonna matter. 805 00:50:53,538 --> 00:50:57,513 I'm going to testify, and I'll explain all of this." 806 00:50:57,546 --> 00:51:00,183 He was running the show, it was his show. 807 00:51:03,090 --> 00:51:05,662 So, he did take the stand. 808 00:51:05,695 --> 00:51:09,135 His demeanor was very calm. 809 00:51:09,202 --> 00:51:11,674 Mr. Cottingham thought somehow that 810 00:51:11,707 --> 00:51:13,511 he was going to beat the wrap. 811 00:51:16,016 --> 00:51:18,721 He admitted that he engaged in 812 00:51:18,755 --> 00:51:23,163 sadomasochistic sexual activity. 813 00:51:23,196 --> 00:51:27,204 He claimed it was all consensual... 814 00:51:27,238 --> 00:51:29,476 that this was all a game. 815 00:51:32,181 --> 00:51:35,287 He had lives within lives within lives. 816 00:51:37,458 --> 00:51:39,195 His mother came in every day. 817 00:51:39,228 --> 00:51:42,234 And his sister, which was even worse, 818 00:51:42,267 --> 00:51:45,441 because they still believed in him. 819 00:51:45,474 --> 00:51:47,613 And I'd say, "Mrs. Cottingham, 820 00:51:47,646 --> 00:51:49,349 this is not good." 821 00:51:49,382 --> 00:51:51,353 "Oh, oh, no, no, no, he's innocent, 822 00:51:51,386 --> 00:51:54,392 he's innocent." "Okay..." 823 00:51:57,298 --> 00:52:01,106 If Cottingham's mother dismissed... 824 00:52:01,173 --> 00:52:04,245 the things she's learning that he did, 825 00:52:04,278 --> 00:52:06,416 she is already the role model for 826 00:52:06,450 --> 00:52:09,657 his minimization at what he did. 827 00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:13,196 If it doesn't matter to her, and that's the woman 828 00:52:13,263 --> 00:52:18,474 who raised him, it certainly does not matter to him. 829 00:52:18,508 --> 00:52:20,411 If convicted on all counts, 830 00:52:20,444 --> 00:52:22,215 Cottingham faces a maximum of 831 00:52:22,248 --> 00:52:26,591 274 years in prison, plus life. 832 00:52:26,624 --> 00:52:30,297 And he still faces trial in New York City for the murders 833 00:52:30,330 --> 00:52:33,303 and mutilations of two Midtown prostitutes. 834 00:52:33,336 --> 00:52:37,344 That trial comes after this one's finished. 835 00:52:37,378 --> 00:52:39,282 The jury was not out very long, 836 00:52:39,315 --> 00:52:41,486 about a day and a half. 837 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,192 The sentence he received really ensured 838 00:52:44,258 --> 00:52:48,166 that he would never see the light of day. 839 00:52:48,233 --> 00:52:51,373 After that, he was taken over to New York, 840 00:52:51,406 --> 00:52:53,276 where he was tried for the homicides that 841 00:52:53,309 --> 00:52:55,447 he had committed in New York City. 842 00:53:00,658 --> 00:53:03,898 By 1984, Richard Cottingham is 843 00:53:03,931 --> 00:53:05,500 sentenced to five life sentences 844 00:53:05,535 --> 00:53:07,505 between New York and New Jersey. 845 00:53:09,743 --> 00:53:12,583 Effectively put away for the remainder of his days. 846 00:53:22,134 --> 00:53:24,606 Fast forward to 2004. 847 00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:26,810 I spent hundreds of hours with him at the prison. 848 00:53:32,488 --> 00:53:34,392 I had these 12 cold cases. 849 00:53:34,426 --> 00:53:36,430 I thought he could be good for some of them. 850 00:53:36,463 --> 00:53:39,235 And yet, I was just making no progress. 851 00:53:39,302 --> 00:53:42,475 I tried everything I could think of. 852 00:53:42,509 --> 00:53:44,780 Cottingham went to Catholic grammar school. 853 00:53:44,814 --> 00:53:47,753 I've tried to play the religious theme on him 854 00:53:47,786 --> 00:53:49,857 as well, knowing that he had that background. 855 00:53:49,890 --> 00:53:52,361 Told him to cleanse his soul. 856 00:53:52,394 --> 00:53:54,466 This is another way that he can... 857 00:53:54,499 --> 00:53:56,402 kind of make peace with God. 858 00:54:23,490 --> 00:54:27,198 I've played that theme over and over and over. 859 00:54:27,298 --> 00:54:29,235 Trying to draw an ounce of empathy out of him 860 00:54:29,302 --> 00:54:31,406 for the victims' families. 861 00:54:32,709 --> 00:54:34,312 The family members have a tremendous 862 00:54:34,379 --> 00:54:36,449 thirst for information. It just never goes away. 863 00:54:36,482 --> 00:54:39,421 They want to know what happened. 864 00:54:39,455 --> 00:54:41,325 Over the years he would say, 865 00:54:41,392 --> 00:54:42,795 "Why would I do that if it's going to hurt me?" 866 00:55:09,517 --> 00:55:11,720 The three children were obviously adults now. 867 00:55:11,754 --> 00:55:14,693 He claimed that he had a sensitivity towards 868 00:55:14,726 --> 00:55:17,599 his children reading about him in the newspaper. 869 00:55:39,676 --> 00:55:40,712 Every time you think you're making progress 870 00:55:40,745 --> 00:55:42,448 with this guy he throws another excuse on 871 00:55:42,481 --> 00:55:46,691 why he's not willing to give you what you need. 872 00:55:46,724 --> 00:55:48,861 Eventually he complained... 873 00:55:48,894 --> 00:55:50,765 he didn't like when I visited him at the prison 874 00:55:50,798 --> 00:55:53,303 because the other inmates knew that 875 00:55:53,370 --> 00:55:54,840 he was getting pulled out. 876 00:55:57,044 --> 00:55:58,614 It looks like he's a rat. 877 00:56:13,477 --> 00:56:16,550 I thought for sure at any given moment, 878 00:56:16,584 --> 00:56:19,623 he's going to completely tank on me and stop it. 879 00:56:31,547 --> 00:56:33,116 Early on, Richard was complaining that 880 00:56:33,149 --> 00:56:35,755 I was visiting him at the prison. 881 00:56:35,789 --> 00:56:38,694 There's a process in a prison, right. 882 00:56:38,727 --> 00:56:40,965 Just because I'm a detective, I didn't just get to walk in 883 00:56:40,999 --> 00:56:42,602 the prison and go up to his cell and be like, 884 00:56:42,636 --> 00:56:43,838 "Hey, Richard, how are you?" 885 00:56:43,871 --> 00:56:46,511 They'd have to get guards to bring him down so, 886 00:56:46,544 --> 00:56:49,917 he would walk past the prison population. 887 00:56:49,950 --> 00:56:51,687 You know, it doesn't go over well with the 888 00:56:51,721 --> 00:56:53,891 prison population, he's cooperating with the police. 889 00:56:53,924 --> 00:56:56,864 Even if all he's telling on is himself. 890 00:56:56,898 --> 00:56:58,668 He would have to walk past The Iceman, 891 00:56:58,701 --> 00:57:00,671 and The Iceman would quietly chuckle to himself. 892 00:57:00,705 --> 00:57:02,474 He knew exactly where he was going. 893 00:57:13,764 --> 00:57:15,668 He wanted me to get him out of the prison and say, 894 00:57:15,701 --> 00:57:17,438 you know, "Bring me up to Bergen County 895 00:57:17,505 --> 00:57:19,642 where these guys don't see what I'm doing." 896 00:57:24,620 --> 00:57:27,324 It gave me an excuse to bring him onto my home turf, 897 00:57:27,458 --> 00:57:29,896 where I can control the visit better. 898 00:57:32,501 --> 00:57:33,771 Just me and a partner would go down, pick him up, 899 00:57:33,804 --> 00:57:35,642 drive him up to Bergen County, 900 00:57:35,675 --> 00:57:37,946 talk to him for hours, drive him back. 901 00:57:42,087 --> 00:57:43,858 I would keep him overnight. 902 00:57:43,891 --> 00:57:46,664 We put him in our own cellblock. 903 00:57:48,033 --> 00:57:50,003 The next morning, pull him out and start all over again. 904 00:57:50,036 --> 00:57:51,707 Feed him an egg sandwich, a cup of coffee, 905 00:57:51,740 --> 00:57:55,213 and we'd go at it again. 906 00:57:55,313 --> 00:57:58,319 It was just a total cat and mouse game that we would play. 907 00:58:00,758 --> 00:58:03,630 Each of us was trying to play the other. 908 00:58:35,762 --> 00:58:37,465 There was no way to talk about murders 909 00:58:37,533 --> 00:58:39,402 all day long and... 910 00:58:39,536 --> 00:58:41,673 think I would get anywhere with him. 911 00:58:41,706 --> 00:58:43,644 If I was really going to build trust with this guy, 912 00:58:43,711 --> 00:58:45,682 there had to be times where he felt like, you know, 913 00:58:45,715 --> 00:58:47,653 I was just being his friend... 914 00:58:47,686 --> 00:58:49,957 as despicable and disgusting as that is. 915 00:58:53,730 --> 00:58:56,937 We'd have him up and, sometimes just play cards. 916 00:58:59,543 --> 00:59:00,711 I'd have six detectives in my office, 917 00:59:00,745 --> 00:59:02,582 and we'd sit around and play poker, 918 00:59:02,649 --> 00:59:04,953 after we were done interrogating him for a day. 919 00:59:07,692 --> 00:59:11,065 Even though he's treating him like a human... 920 00:59:11,098 --> 00:59:13,938 he's an animal. 921 00:59:13,971 --> 00:59:15,875 It's hard to sit down with the devil and 922 00:59:15,908 --> 00:59:18,246 make believe you're the same. 923 00:59:20,084 --> 00:59:22,121 He just kept putting obstacle after obstacle in front of me 924 00:59:22,154 --> 00:59:24,793 on why he wouldn't talk about another case. 925 00:59:41,626 --> 00:59:47,505 He's the type of offender who trusts in language. 926 00:59:47,605 --> 00:59:50,043 He thinks that if he puts things into his 927 00:59:50,076 --> 00:59:54,451 own narrative, he will control reality, 928 00:59:54,586 --> 00:59:59,061 he will control what his crimes mean. 929 00:59:59,094 --> 01:00:03,036 You're dealing with a clever, malignant narcissist. 930 01:00:03,069 --> 01:00:05,775 Richard Cottingham is playing a game for, 931 01:00:05,809 --> 01:00:07,912 "What can I get out of this?" 932 01:00:07,946 --> 01:00:09,583 So, he wanted something back. 933 01:00:09,649 --> 01:00:13,824 "What are you going to do for me?" 934 01:00:13,857 --> 01:00:16,229 There were a few staples that Richard always wanted, 935 01:00:16,262 --> 01:00:17,732 and that kept him happy. 936 01:00:17,765 --> 01:00:18,901 And they were relatively simple, 937 01:00:18,934 --> 01:00:21,039 so why not give them to him? 938 01:00:23,811 --> 01:00:26,149 He loved pizza from a certain pizza place. 939 01:00:26,182 --> 01:00:28,721 I'd send detectives go pick up a couple of pies. 940 01:00:28,788 --> 01:00:30,925 He loved sausage and extra cheese pizza. 941 01:00:32,829 --> 01:00:36,570 He liked donuts from Dunkin' Donuts. 942 01:00:36,670 --> 01:00:39,943 There were times he'd ask for cheeseburgers. 943 01:00:39,977 --> 01:00:43,684 If it starts with a deck of cards, or a pizza, 944 01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:46,790 it's almost like a trading, a horse trading going on. 945 01:00:48,761 --> 01:00:52,869 After I met his demands... 946 01:00:52,902 --> 01:00:55,808 he began to cooperate with me. 947 01:01:30,678 --> 01:01:33,215 He began to open up about the past. 948 01:01:33,249 --> 01:01:35,888 This is where I would sense the opening to be like, 949 01:01:35,922 --> 01:01:38,861 let me try and get something from him. 950 01:01:38,894 --> 01:01:41,265 We did one day get to the point of 951 01:01:41,299 --> 01:01:43,603 doing what we call like a 'queen for a day', 952 01:01:43,737 --> 01:01:46,042 which is a proffer agreement where we say, 953 01:01:46,075 --> 01:01:47,979 "You're going to come in, whatever you tell us today 954 01:01:48,012 --> 01:01:49,448 is not going to be used against you 955 01:01:49,650 --> 01:01:51,854 in a court of law." 956 01:01:51,887 --> 01:01:53,524 During that proffer session, 957 01:01:53,691 --> 01:01:56,897 he gave a little bit of detail... 958 01:01:56,930 --> 01:02:01,807 that he killed a housewife in October of 1967. 959 01:02:01,874 --> 01:02:03,844 He said that he believed that she had children. 960 01:02:30,665 --> 01:02:32,936 This was the break I'd been waiting for. 961 01:02:35,207 --> 01:02:37,210 We're finally here. We're finally at this moment. 962 01:02:53,744 --> 01:02:56,015 Of all the unsolved homicides that 963 01:02:56,049 --> 01:02:59,455 I had been looking at involving young women... 964 01:02:59,522 --> 01:03:04,031 Nancy Vogel was really the only one that had children. 965 01:03:04,064 --> 01:03:06,936 So, it was just that little tidbit that made me then 966 01:03:06,970 --> 01:03:08,841 go get the file, look at it and 967 01:03:08,874 --> 01:03:12,649 really start studying the Vogel homicide. 968 01:03:12,716 --> 01:03:14,018 Nancy Vogel was a 29-year-old 969 01:03:14,051 --> 01:03:16,690 married mother of two. 970 01:03:16,756 --> 01:03:19,128 Her children were nine and five years old. 971 01:03:22,034 --> 01:03:24,939 1967 was a, was a different, different world. 972 01:03:32,053 --> 01:03:34,158 In Little Ferry, we had a... 973 01:03:34,191 --> 01:03:37,197 a typical Italian setup- the two-family house 974 01:03:37,230 --> 01:03:39,836 with the finished basement where everyone ate and my 975 01:03:39,870 --> 01:03:42,106 grandmother lived upstairs, we lived in the middle. 976 01:03:44,646 --> 01:03:45,848 She was always happy, 977 01:03:45,882 --> 01:03:46,983 she was always doing things for us. 978 01:03:47,017 --> 01:03:51,159 She always- you know, she's the perfect mom. 979 01:03:51,192 --> 01:03:53,096 We used to, every year, go to Wildwood and 980 01:03:53,129 --> 01:03:54,866 having fun on the beach. 981 01:03:54,899 --> 01:03:57,337 Always laughing. 982 01:04:00,177 --> 01:04:03,851 And then, it was a day or two before Halloween. 983 01:04:03,884 --> 01:04:07,758 My life would change. 984 01:04:07,825 --> 01:04:10,965 My sister went to my father about 2, 3 o'clock 985 01:04:10,998 --> 01:04:14,071 in the morning and said, "Mommy's not home." 986 01:04:18,514 --> 01:04:20,150 By the time I woke up, it was, you know, 987 01:04:20,183 --> 01:04:23,022 8, 9 o'clock in the morning. 988 01:04:23,055 --> 01:04:26,095 People were at the house, and it was frantic, chaos. 989 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,805 My father and my uncle- which is my mother's brother- 990 01:04:30,838 --> 01:04:31,873 went to the police department. 991 01:04:31,907 --> 01:04:33,544 They were driving around town looking for her, 992 01:04:33,611 --> 01:04:38,085 calling friends and relatives that she might have been with. 993 01:04:38,118 --> 01:04:40,624 She was missing for a day or two. 994 01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:50,911 I was in 6th grade, and I came home 995 01:04:50,945 --> 01:04:53,283 from Catholic school with my friend. 996 01:04:53,316 --> 01:04:56,656 And there was a car over here that did not look familiar. 997 01:04:56,689 --> 01:04:59,929 And, we looked into the car, and we saw something 998 01:04:59,962 --> 01:05:02,902 that looked like a mannequin. 999 01:05:02,936 --> 01:05:04,539 It was indeed not a mannequin, 1000 01:05:04,706 --> 01:05:07,110 and it was a woman. 1001 01:05:08,948 --> 01:05:10,718 She was wedged between the 1002 01:05:10,785 --> 01:05:13,857 back of the front seat and on the floor. 1003 01:05:13,891 --> 01:05:16,428 Her arms were tied, and she was naked. 1004 01:05:18,332 --> 01:05:21,706 So, we ran in the house to call the police. 1005 01:05:21,773 --> 01:05:22,875 They're like, "A dead body?" 1006 01:05:22,908 --> 01:05:24,044 I'm like, "Yes, I think there's a dead body 1007 01:05:24,078 --> 01:05:26,550 in the car in front of my house." 1008 01:05:26,717 --> 01:05:28,720 They came immediately. 1009 01:05:28,787 --> 01:05:31,659 They dusted the door for prints. 1010 01:05:31,726 --> 01:05:34,632 And, news people came, and they were taking pictures. 1011 01:05:37,972 --> 01:05:39,943 Neighbors from all over the place were down, 1012 01:05:39,976 --> 01:05:42,815 asking questions. Nothing happened here, ever. 1013 01:05:42,848 --> 01:05:44,853 So, it was huge. 1014 01:05:48,193 --> 01:05:50,697 So my grandmother was making us lunch. 1015 01:05:53,871 --> 01:05:55,039 And my sister opens the door, 1016 01:05:55,072 --> 01:05:57,010 and it was the newspaper, saying, 1017 01:05:57,044 --> 01:05:59,716 "Now that you found out that your mother's dead, 1018 01:05:59,783 --> 01:06:01,853 how do you feel about it?" 1019 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,924 And my sister was like, shocked. 1020 01:06:03,958 --> 01:06:05,359 And then, they came into the house, 1021 01:06:05,393 --> 01:06:07,965 and they talked to my grandmother, my nanny. 1022 01:06:07,998 --> 01:06:09,268 And, in Italian, 1023 01:06:09,301 --> 01:06:11,639 she sent them to hell and cursed them out. 1024 01:06:13,844 --> 01:06:15,848 It was bad. 1025 01:06:15,881 --> 01:06:19,890 I just remember just watching everybody yelling and crying 1026 01:06:19,923 --> 01:06:23,263 and not really understanding it. 1027 01:06:23,296 --> 01:06:25,901 So, that's how we found out. 1028 01:06:31,847 --> 01:06:33,818 The cops, you know, worked diligently 1029 01:06:33,884 --> 01:06:36,288 on the case back in 1967. 1030 01:06:36,322 --> 01:06:38,026 Documentation of what was done 1031 01:06:38,059 --> 01:06:40,129 wasn't up to today's standards. 1032 01:06:40,163 --> 01:06:42,334 And we find this a lot of times in our cold case files, 1033 01:06:42,367 --> 01:06:44,839 that there's just not a lot of information about 1034 01:06:44,906 --> 01:06:46,141 what was done, and what, 1035 01:06:46,175 --> 01:06:48,278 what wasn't done. you know, 1036 01:06:52,021 --> 01:06:53,222 She left her house, 1037 01:06:53,255 --> 01:06:54,692 telling her family she was going to 1038 01:06:54,759 --> 01:06:59,168 the shopping center in Little Ferry, New Jersey. 1039 01:06:59,201 --> 01:07:00,804 Three days later, her body was found 1040 01:07:00,871 --> 01:07:03,075 in the back seat of her car... 1041 01:07:03,108 --> 01:07:06,315 on a side street in Ridgefield Park, New Jersey. 1042 01:07:06,349 --> 01:07:08,787 Raped, beaten, and strangled. 1043 01:07:12,194 --> 01:07:15,133 In this case, we saw who they were going after. 1044 01:07:15,167 --> 01:07:18,339 There was nothing obvious. 1045 01:07:18,372 --> 01:07:19,943 It was a big story at the time, 1046 01:07:19,976 --> 01:07:24,118 and it also grew over time. 1047 01:07:24,151 --> 01:07:26,322 Cottingham was never considered a suspect 1048 01:07:26,355 --> 01:07:28,025 in the murder of Nancy Vogel, 1049 01:07:28,059 --> 01:07:32,735 until he directed me to that case. 1050 01:07:32,802 --> 01:07:35,975 When you solve a cold case, you don't just simply 1051 01:07:36,008 --> 01:07:39,048 take a person's word that, "I did it." 1052 01:07:39,081 --> 01:07:42,287 There were quite a few more details. 1053 01:07:43,723 --> 01:07:46,229 She was acquainted with Richard Cottingham. 1054 01:07:46,262 --> 01:07:49,134 Cottingham lived in Little Ferry at the time. 1055 01:08:08,139 --> 01:08:11,179 In her own Rambler vehicle, there were brown 1056 01:08:11,212 --> 01:08:13,382 shopping bags in the back of the vehicle. 1057 01:08:17,390 --> 01:08:21,332 There were relatively recent purchases at the Valley Fair. 1058 01:08:24,104 --> 01:08:26,141 We knew that there was a 1059 01:08:26,175 --> 01:08:29,081 sexual overtone to the crime, 1060 01:08:29,114 --> 01:08:31,151 that she had been strangled. 1061 01:08:59,975 --> 01:09:03,116 Here was that independent proof, 1062 01:09:03,149 --> 01:09:05,955 along with other things. 1063 01:09:05,988 --> 01:09:08,794 Despite the fact that he pointed me in the direction 1064 01:09:08,861 --> 01:09:13,235 of the Nancy Vogel case and gave me some details that... 1065 01:09:13,268 --> 01:09:16,041 convinced me he was responsible for that murder, 1066 01:09:16,108 --> 01:09:19,281 he refused to give the full confession. 1067 01:09:19,314 --> 01:09:21,452 It was such a game of trying to be like, 1068 01:09:21,485 --> 01:09:24,225 who is in control of this relationship that we have? 1069 01:09:24,258 --> 01:09:26,896 He did not want to give this confession. 1070 01:09:43,463 --> 01:09:45,266 Every time I thought we were going to get there, 1071 01:09:45,299 --> 01:09:46,469 he would say, 1072 01:09:46,502 --> 01:09:48,239 "Well, you didn't come through with this for me. 1073 01:09:48,272 --> 01:09:50,076 What about the Attorney General's office? 1074 01:09:50,143 --> 01:09:51,111 How do I know that they won't step in? 1075 01:09:51,145 --> 01:09:52,380 What if... 1076 01:09:52,414 --> 01:09:53,550 What if your boss leaves and there's a new boss and 1077 01:09:53,583 --> 01:09:56,188 he says, 'No, I want to charge the guy'?" 1078 01:09:56,221 --> 01:09:57,525 And, "How are you going to prove to me that 1079 01:09:57,558 --> 01:10:00,063 you're going to keep it out of the media? 1080 01:10:00,129 --> 01:10:01,164 What about the family members, 1081 01:10:01,198 --> 01:10:02,167 when you tell the family? 1082 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,271 What if they go to the press?" 1083 01:10:04,305 --> 01:10:06,910 It was constantly this back and forth 1084 01:10:06,976 --> 01:10:09,516 like bickering between the two of us over what the 1085 01:10:09,549 --> 01:10:12,286 "conditions" would be of this confession. 1086 01:10:33,396 --> 01:10:36,268 I came through on my end with all of his asks, 1087 01:10:36,301 --> 01:10:38,239 and it built up such a level of trust, 1088 01:10:38,272 --> 01:10:39,374 and then finally I was like, 1089 01:10:39,408 --> 01:10:40,977 "I'm not doing another ----ing thing for you 1090 01:10:41,044 --> 01:10:44,451 until we get one." 1091 01:10:44,484 --> 01:10:47,959 And then finally, back in 2010, one visit, 1092 01:10:48,025 --> 01:10:51,933 I just broke him down and he agreed to confess. 1093 01:10:54,304 --> 01:10:55,674 We're going on the record. 1094 01:10:55,707 --> 01:10:58,245 I was literally... 1095 01:10:58,279 --> 01:11:00,416 ----ing in my pants. 1096 01:11:03,255 --> 01:11:06,395 It's time to pay the piper. 1097 01:11:06,428 --> 01:11:09,836 I'm finally going to learn how he killed this person, 1098 01:11:10,036 --> 01:11:11,506 in his own words. 1099 01:11:31,979 --> 01:11:33,683 It's now 2010. 1100 01:11:33,717 --> 01:11:35,921 I've spent the last six years 1101 01:11:36,088 --> 01:11:38,025 grinding away with this guy, 1102 01:11:38,158 --> 01:11:40,564 trying to solve at least one of these 1103 01:11:40,598 --> 01:11:43,235 12 cold cases that I have. 1104 01:11:43,268 --> 01:11:44,939 He balked and balked and balked, 1105 01:11:45,105 --> 01:11:46,242 and then finally I would say, 1106 01:11:46,275 --> 01:11:48,379 "We're doing it now. We're doing it right now." 1107 01:11:48,412 --> 01:11:50,449 And I would flip the switch, and be like, 1108 01:11:50,483 --> 01:11:52,086 "I've had enough, let's go." 1109 01:12:31,632 --> 01:12:33,269 When I put the tape recorder on the table, 1110 01:12:33,302 --> 01:12:36,175 he actually like, pushed his chair back and began to sweat. 1111 01:12:37,912 --> 01:12:40,182 It was a visceral reaction on his part... 1112 01:12:40,249 --> 01:12:43,155 once we started going. 1113 01:12:43,222 --> 01:12:44,057 He looks like he's going to 1114 01:12:44,190 --> 01:12:46,295 back down from confessing to it. 1115 01:12:46,328 --> 01:12:49,367 He's shying away from the recorder. 1116 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,338 It's six years in the making. 1117 01:12:51,371 --> 01:12:53,743 And now, you know, I'm praying that 1118 01:12:53,776 --> 01:12:56,616 he doesn't panic so much that he shuts down. 1119 01:13:14,652 --> 01:13:16,321 I kind of had to bring him back on track to 1120 01:13:16,388 --> 01:13:18,560 make sure that he didn't kind of, you know, 1121 01:13:18,593 --> 01:13:20,530 ---- the bed on me and say, "I don't want to do this." 1122 01:14:01,712 --> 01:14:04,017 He's very calm and matter of fact, 1123 01:14:04,117 --> 01:14:07,289 and it's as if he has no feelings about it whatsoever. 1124 01:14:07,356 --> 01:14:08,726 He doesn't seem to have any remorse. 1125 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,797 He doesn't seem to have empathy. 1126 01:14:46,569 --> 01:14:48,607 So, to sit across from somebody, 1127 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,577 and hear them tell... 1128 01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:53,415 the story of a brutal rape and murder as if it's 1129 01:14:53,448 --> 01:14:55,152 an everyday occurrence in their life, 1130 01:14:55,219 --> 01:14:56,789 as if it's the same as me telling you a story about 1131 01:14:56,822 --> 01:14:58,660 going to the grocery store and buying a gallon of milk, 1132 01:14:58,693 --> 01:15:00,797 is, is disturbing. 1133 01:15:37,638 --> 01:15:41,612 I didn't get him to confess to that case until 2010. 1134 01:15:41,646 --> 01:15:45,119 Six frigging years later. 1135 01:15:45,219 --> 01:15:47,825 And in between there was hundreds of hours. 1136 01:15:47,858 --> 01:15:50,864 And that's how obstinate the guy could be and how stubborn. 1137 01:15:55,206 --> 01:15:58,613 We talked to the family after the confession. 1138 01:15:58,646 --> 01:16:01,418 I had Bill and his sister Karen, 1139 01:16:01,485 --> 01:16:02,687 and some other family members 1140 01:16:02,721 --> 01:16:05,627 come into the prosecutor's office. 1141 01:16:05,661 --> 01:16:08,131 We wanted the family to hear it first. 1142 01:16:08,165 --> 01:16:11,672 Never, ever, ever have them read it in a newspaper. 1143 01:16:11,706 --> 01:16:13,375 And because of this type of a case, 1144 01:16:13,442 --> 01:16:16,983 we wanted to meet them personally. 1145 01:16:17,016 --> 01:16:20,557 I didn't know who Richard Cottingham was or anything. 1146 01:16:20,590 --> 01:16:22,961 Rob reaches over, he goes, "Bill, 1147 01:16:22,994 --> 01:16:25,700 don't go home and Google Richard Cottingham. 1148 01:16:25,734 --> 01:16:29,407 Don't do that yet. It's not the same thing." 1149 01:16:31,579 --> 01:16:33,750 You're now able to answer a lot of questions. 1150 01:16:33,784 --> 01:16:35,787 And sometimes I wonder... 1151 01:16:35,821 --> 01:16:39,595 Is it better sometimes to have the questions unanswered? 1152 01:16:39,628 --> 01:16:41,632 Or to get the answers, even though the 1153 01:16:41,665 --> 01:16:46,676 answers themselves may cause you more pain? 1154 01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:49,816 My mom was always watching out over me. 1155 01:16:49,849 --> 01:16:52,621 And that's my biggest thing, I really feel that 1156 01:16:52,655 --> 01:16:56,027 she was taken before her time. 1157 01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:57,898 And throughout the whole thing, they just kept saying, 1158 01:16:57,931 --> 01:16:59,802 "You have to keep it quiet, you have to keep it quiet. 1159 01:16:59,835 --> 01:17:01,939 You can't tell anybody." And I agreed. 1160 01:17:04,845 --> 01:17:07,751 Keeping quiet is a- was hard. 1161 01:17:07,784 --> 01:17:09,821 Very, very hard. 1162 01:17:11,558 --> 01:17:13,295 One of the reasons why we want to 1163 01:17:13,361 --> 01:17:16,268 honor Cottingham's request, as much as we don't 1164 01:17:16,334 --> 01:17:18,807 want to honor anything the man has to say, 1165 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,846 is we want to do this for the next family, 1166 01:17:21,879 --> 01:17:24,250 for the next father, for the next mother, 1167 01:17:24,417 --> 01:17:25,721 for the next sibling. 1168 01:17:25,754 --> 01:17:28,192 We want him to continue to tell us things. 1169 01:17:28,292 --> 01:17:31,966 You always want to solve these cold cases. 1170 01:17:31,999 --> 01:17:34,304 After getting that first confession, 1171 01:17:34,371 --> 01:17:36,609 I was hoping that this was finally the moment 1172 01:17:36,642 --> 01:17:38,746 that the dam would break, and... 1173 01:17:38,779 --> 01:17:42,353 he would open up about other cases. 1174 01:17:42,419 --> 01:17:44,658 To get him to go to court was really important to me, 1175 01:17:44,692 --> 01:17:47,496 it was important to me for the victim's family. 1176 01:17:47,564 --> 01:17:48,733 This was the first one, 1177 01:17:48,766 --> 01:17:52,775 and I just wanted that foundation laid. 1178 01:17:52,808 --> 01:17:54,912 And that took some time and some convincing. 1179 01:17:57,718 --> 01:17:59,621 Richard Cottingham was already serving 1180 01:17:59,655 --> 01:18:01,859 multiple life terms. 1181 01:18:01,892 --> 01:18:03,896 The plea deal was, 1182 01:18:03,930 --> 01:18:05,700 "You're going to get another life term. 1183 01:18:05,734 --> 01:18:08,539 Nothing less. A life for a life." 1184 01:18:08,606 --> 01:18:10,610 And he was okay with that. 1185 01:18:12,947 --> 01:18:15,654 You know, he just didn't want to be in the public eye. 1186 01:18:15,687 --> 01:18:17,991 He didn't want his kids to know 1187 01:18:18,025 --> 01:18:20,028 the real, true monster that he was. 1188 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:49,989 I had to convince him that 1189 01:18:50,022 --> 01:18:51,525 we were not going to put out a press release, 1190 01:18:51,592 --> 01:18:52,527 we weren't going to make a big 1191 01:18:52,594 --> 01:18:54,565 dog and pony show about it. 1192 01:18:56,168 --> 01:18:59,908 The actual court date was in August of 2010. 1193 01:19:02,113 --> 01:19:05,018 In an effort to really keep it out of the newspapers and, 1194 01:19:05,052 --> 01:19:08,927 and quiet, we made it late in the day. 1195 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,597 We can't keep the public out 1196 01:19:10,663 --> 01:19:11,933 or we can't keep the media out of the court, 1197 01:19:11,966 --> 01:19:14,871 but there was very, very little likelihood that the 1198 01:19:14,905 --> 01:19:17,443 press would be lurking around the courthouse at say, 1199 01:19:17,577 --> 01:19:21,585 4:30, 5 o'clock in the afternoon. 1200 01:19:21,618 --> 01:19:23,890 The only people that were really in the court was the 1201 01:19:23,924 --> 01:19:26,829 prosecutor, myself, 1202 01:19:26,862 --> 01:19:28,866 some other homicide detectives, 1203 01:19:28,900 --> 01:19:31,037 the Vogel family... 1204 01:19:31,071 --> 01:19:33,877 Of course, Cottingham, his defense attorney, 1205 01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:36,280 and Judge Venezia. 1206 01:19:38,653 --> 01:19:40,590 My role was simple. 1207 01:19:40,657 --> 01:19:44,330 I was asked to take a plea. 1208 01:19:44,531 --> 01:19:45,934 And I was told, 1209 01:19:45,968 --> 01:19:50,009 "We'd like to make this short and sweet. 1210 01:19:50,042 --> 01:19:54,384 The plea, sentence, done." 1211 01:19:54,484 --> 01:19:56,655 And did I do that? For the most part, I did. 1212 01:19:59,628 --> 01:20:02,801 Ah, it didn't exactly go as planned. 1213 01:20:02,834 --> 01:20:06,709 Your conduct and your history 1214 01:20:06,743 --> 01:20:09,615 is beyond appalling. 1215 01:20:11,819 --> 01:20:14,658 Judge Venezia started really hammering him. 1216 01:20:14,691 --> 01:20:17,062 It doesn't detract from the fact that I think you are 1217 01:20:17,096 --> 01:20:19,969 an absolutely despicable human being, 1218 01:20:20,002 --> 01:20:22,608 and I use that word sparingly. 1219 01:20:25,847 --> 01:20:27,885 I thought at any given moment he's gonna say, 1220 01:20:27,918 --> 01:20:29,387 "You know what, Judge, I'm not guilty. 1221 01:20:29,588 --> 01:20:30,389 I didn't do this," 1222 01:20:30,489 --> 01:20:33,395 or somehow sabotage the confession he gave. 1223 01:20:33,495 --> 01:20:35,399 I was waiting for him to turn to me and say, 1224 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,002 "I'm not doing this." 1225 01:20:49,928 --> 01:20:51,231 So, we bring him into court 1226 01:20:51,264 --> 01:20:53,134 in front of Judge Donald Venezia. 1227 01:20:55,941 --> 01:20:58,846 We explained it in no uncertain terms that... 1228 01:20:58,879 --> 01:21:01,785 we were not looking for fanfare in this thing. 1229 01:21:01,852 --> 01:21:04,624 We wanted to quietly give closure to the family. 1230 01:21:07,698 --> 01:21:11,104 We needed it just quick and quiet. 1231 01:21:13,175 --> 01:21:15,179 Bring him to the courtroom at a set time that we had 1232 01:21:15,212 --> 01:21:18,753 made arrangements for, sentence him right there. 1233 01:21:18,786 --> 01:21:22,794 Everything was perfect. 1234 01:21:22,861 --> 01:21:25,232 They want to get it over with, I get it. 1235 01:21:25,265 --> 01:21:30,209 And I was told, "We'd like to make this short and sweet." 1236 01:21:35,086 --> 01:21:37,089 For the first time, I see Richard Cottingham 1237 01:21:37,123 --> 01:21:38,792 walking down the hallway. 1238 01:21:40,597 --> 01:21:42,868 He looks like Santa Claus with his long, long beard. 1239 01:21:42,901 --> 01:21:44,938 He's overweight and whatnot. 1240 01:21:44,972 --> 01:21:47,677 This is nothing that I imagined. 1241 01:21:47,744 --> 01:21:48,879 So, you know, as a little kid, 1242 01:21:48,913 --> 01:21:49,915 you say your mother was murdered, 1243 01:21:49,948 --> 01:21:53,657 you think it's like a big monster, bad... 1244 01:21:53,723 --> 01:21:56,762 ugly, terrible person. 1245 01:21:56,829 --> 01:21:59,134 And here's... he's nothing. 1246 01:21:59,167 --> 01:22:03,008 He's a shell of a man. 1247 01:22:03,041 --> 01:22:05,847 It was, you know, kind of both exhilarating and 1248 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,216 frustrating all at the same time. 1249 01:22:07,249 --> 01:22:09,320 It's hard to put into words. 1250 01:22:09,353 --> 01:22:11,525 The culmination of six years' worth of work 1251 01:22:11,726 --> 01:22:14,664 coming down to this. 1252 01:22:14,731 --> 01:22:16,969 I never thought that I'd have the opportunity there, 1253 01:22:17,002 --> 01:22:20,544 Mr. Cottingham, 1254 01:22:20,711 --> 01:22:23,115 to really witness somebody 1255 01:22:23,148 --> 01:22:26,589 who has the makeup that you do. 1256 01:22:26,755 --> 01:22:30,062 Your conduct and your history 1257 01:22:30,096 --> 01:22:32,701 is beyond appalling. 1258 01:22:32,768 --> 01:22:33,936 And that, very frankly, 1259 01:22:33,970 --> 01:22:36,240 when you end up wherever you end up, 1260 01:22:36,274 --> 01:22:39,548 I suggest you dress with light clothes 'cause it's 1261 01:22:39,648 --> 01:22:42,921 usually pretty hot where I think you're going. 1262 01:22:42,955 --> 01:22:45,191 In the middle of the court proceeding, 1263 01:22:45,225 --> 01:22:47,196 the judge just begins to berate him, 1264 01:22:47,229 --> 01:22:48,833 and I'm watching it go south. 1265 01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:52,039 And I'm just like, this is so ----ing bad. 1266 01:22:52,072 --> 01:22:55,212 I don't think I've ever had the ability 1267 01:22:55,245 --> 01:22:58,686 nor desire to ever, like... 1268 01:22:58,820 --> 01:23:02,661 witness the devil in my courtroom. 1269 01:23:02,794 --> 01:23:07,336 But I think I see him today in you. 1270 01:23:07,369 --> 01:23:10,677 You see me in the row, right behind him, 1271 01:23:10,810 --> 01:23:11,946 and I'm like literally slumping down 1272 01:23:11,979 --> 01:23:15,285 with the, "Oh, ----". 1273 01:23:15,318 --> 01:23:17,857 It doesn't detract from the fact that I think you are 1274 01:23:17,924 --> 01:23:20,897 an absolutely despicable human being and 1275 01:23:20,931 --> 01:23:24,070 I use that word sparingly. 1276 01:23:24,103 --> 01:23:26,008 Very difficult to look people in the eye, 1277 01:23:26,041 --> 01:23:27,343 who lost a loved one, 1278 01:23:27,376 --> 01:23:30,115 because of the outrageous deed of somebody 1279 01:23:30,149 --> 01:23:32,186 who's standing twelve feet from you, 1280 01:23:32,220 --> 01:23:34,057 and twelve feet from them. 1281 01:23:34,090 --> 01:23:36,929 Whether you're a judge or not, you're a human being. 1282 01:23:41,170 --> 01:23:43,175 It wasn't, you know, typically what you see 1283 01:23:43,208 --> 01:23:44,344 out of a judge in a courtroom, 1284 01:23:44,377 --> 01:23:45,914 but I think in this particular case, 1285 01:23:45,947 --> 01:23:47,884 he needed to hear that. 1286 01:23:49,755 --> 01:23:53,896 I'm glad he did that, I'm glad he stood up. 1287 01:23:53,930 --> 01:23:56,769 Then, the judge literally forced him to turn around and 1288 01:23:56,902 --> 01:23:59,975 apologize to Bill Vogel and his sister. 1289 01:24:00,008 --> 01:24:01,411 Why don't you turn around and tell them, 1290 01:24:01,444 --> 01:24:03,849 'cause what's left of 'em are in the audience over there. 1291 01:24:03,882 --> 01:24:06,454 Why don't you, why don't you man up a little bit there? 1292 01:24:06,487 --> 01:24:09,127 I want you to look at them in the eye and tell them. 1293 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,264 Huh? How about that? Why don't you do that? 1294 01:24:11,297 --> 01:24:14,170 I am very sorry for all the pain I've caused you. 1295 01:24:14,204 --> 01:24:17,042 I really mean that. 1296 01:24:17,076 --> 01:24:20,082 His narrative is reality to him, 1297 01:24:20,115 --> 01:24:24,057 and the judge in the room punctures that... 1298 01:24:24,090 --> 01:24:27,930 because he was helpless. 1299 01:24:30,002 --> 01:24:31,872 When it was all over, 1300 01:24:31,939 --> 01:24:34,043 I escorted him out. 1301 01:24:34,077 --> 01:24:37,483 Cottingham stopped, turned to me... 1302 01:24:37,518 --> 01:24:40,255 and says, "You will never get me to ----ing do this again." 1303 01:24:43,161 --> 01:24:45,065 Six years of work. 1304 01:24:45,098 --> 01:24:47,871 2004 to 2010. 1305 01:24:47,937 --> 01:24:50,877 I finally get him to confess... 1306 01:24:50,943 --> 01:24:53,315 and I just lost this guy forever. 1307 01:24:55,987 --> 01:24:59,628 After Cottingham confessed to the murder of Nancy Vogel, 1308 01:24:59,661 --> 01:25:02,265 he told me that murder was not his first. 1309 01:25:11,251 --> 01:25:13,021 It got my mind thinking of... 1310 01:25:13,055 --> 01:25:14,691 how many could be out there? 1311 01:25:14,791 --> 01:25:17,029 I'm convinced that he's good for more than just 1312 01:25:17,062 --> 01:25:19,367 the one that he's confessed to, 1313 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,339 but I still have 11 of these cases unsolved. 1314 01:25:28,418 --> 01:25:31,257 She would have fought for her life. 1315 01:25:31,291 --> 01:25:33,028 A rope was reportedly tied around 1316 01:25:33,061 --> 01:25:34,497 one of the girls' necks. 1317 01:25:34,531 --> 01:25:37,436 There's this fear that went through everybody. 1318 01:25:37,470 --> 01:25:40,109 She was just headed home. 1319 01:25:40,142 --> 01:25:42,146 Is there anything more powerful than 1320 01:25:42,179 --> 01:25:45,118 believing you are God? 1321 01:25:45,151 --> 01:25:47,524 Once he had them in the car... 1322 01:25:47,557 --> 01:25:49,327 they were his. 1323 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,766 I was not done with him. 1324 01:25:51,832 --> 01:25:54,136 I'm not letting this guy get away with it. 1325 01:25:54,169 --> 01:25:55,973 It was the game. 1326 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,712 It was like the perfect murder every time. 1327 01:25:58,812 --> 01:26:01,518 How am I ever going to get back on track? 103406

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