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[Keppel narrating]
I have a question.

If you know someone,
someone close to you,

And you put together
all the pieces,

All the laughter
and the tears,

And the silences--

All the deep, telling
moments of their life--

Then...

well, then you can inhabit them
and feel part of them.

Hi, dad.

Hey.

But if you've
known someone...

with a soul so dark...

so terrifying...

and you've crawled into
every foul corner

That they think they've
hidden from you...

and you've inhabited them...

[woman screams]
[crunching sound]

How do you--
How do you come back?

Can you return
to how you used to be?

Dad, you missed it.
No hands!

[male singer]
�� love is a weapon ��

�� it can cut
you to the bone ��

�� love makes you bleed
but love makes you strong ��

�� love's never perfect ��

[crowd chattering]

[cop #1]
yeah, we were second car.

What do we got,
lieutenant?

Reichert, anybody
ever tell you you have
lousy taste in music?

Yes, sir, you did.
What'd I say
I was gonna do

If I caught you with a radio
in a county car again?

You said you break it
into a thousand pieces

and plant my young butt
in the property room.

But that's not my radio.
That's my wife's.

She gave it to me
to get fixed because
it only gets one station.

Which is why
it was in that car

And why I was listening
to that particular song
instead of Opera, sir.

You're full of it, Reichert.
Yes, sir.

Lieutenant!
Better have a look.

You ever walk point
on a case yet, Reichert?

No, sir, not yet.

Well, that just changed.

[cop #2]
Sir? Lieutenant Downing?

You're lead, detective.
Better go see what they want.

Yes, sir.

I'm Reichert.
I caught lead on this.
What do we got?

Another body!

Look, I'm new, okay,
but I'm not that--

Weighted down with rocks.
Big suckers.

Probably go 40 pounds each.

[Reichert]
bring her up on shore
and then scour the bottom.

Bring me anything
that's down there.

I don't care
if it's a dead guppy,
I want to see it.

Be careful.

[shutter clicking]
[flash whining]

[cop #3]
okay. All right.

[laughing]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, Jesus Mary mother of god.

[wolf howling]

You can't depend
on M.O. to link up
a serial killer's murders.

'Cause they read the paper,
they watch TV.

They'll even study
other serials to learn
all they can to avoid capture.

Then they'll change their M.O.
based on what they've learned.

So if you wanna
catch a serial killer,
forget about his M.O.

And focus on his signature.

'Cause the signature is the on
thing that will not change

because he has to leave
his personal calling card.

A serial killer
is psychologically compelled

to leave his imprint
on the victim.

[slide projector
clattering]

[Keppel]
Jessica Standish.

The killer murders her
in his truck,

Then he drags her body
out into the alley,

he sweeps the area clean,
and he poses her.

So, that's some sort of
biblical thing, right?
With the fish and the wine?

Sure, it could be biblical.
That's a tempting place
to start.

Uh, but if your instincts
run to something
a little less sophisticated,

I wouldn't ignore that either.
[door hinge squeaking]

The world's most notorious
serial killer is now
on death row in Florida

for the murders
of three girls.

We believe he
was also involved in

at least two dozen
other murders

between 1974
and 1978,

eight of them
here in this State...

ranging in age
from 30... to 12.

[slide projector
clattering]

As Ted Bundy says,
"whatever gets your rocks off."

All right, we'll talk
about Bundy next week,
and, uh, go wash your brains.

You don't process this stuff,
you'll end up in a straitjacket.

[students chattering]

[Keppel]
they're all ligature strangulation?

[Reichert]
Yeah. The fresh kills, anyway.
Can't tell about these.

He's been busy.

Yeah, we're up to 13.
Ten since July.

Hmm. They all
working girls?

We think so.
The lab hasn't
I.D.'d them all yet.

Any of
the recent finds fresh?

No. We found
two more in the river
after the first three,

But nothing but bones
since then.

You caught yourself
a tough one.

We're spinning
our wheels, Bob.

And the media's
all over us.

My plate's full,
Reichert.

I got four guys
for 13 dead girls.

They gave you help?
[chuckles]

[loud rock music playing]

[loud rock music playing]

Guys?
[knocking]

Guys? Hey!

[music stops]
Hey.

Think you could, uh,
maybe just keep
the doors, uh,

Closed?
Uh-Huh.

I could hear it
all the way from the marina.

So, uh, just...

it's a-- but it sounds-sounds-
It sounds good. Just...

hi, sweetie.
Hi, dad.

How was rehearsal?

Good.
Yeah?

[sighing]
you're coming
to the performance, right?

Well, yeah.
I'm getting box seats.

That's why I'm having
my tux cleaned.

As if you have a tux.

Yeah, as if your studio
has box seats.

[Sande]
Bob?

Yeah, something smells good.

Salmon.
How'd your day go?

Oh, not bad.

You want a beer?
No, but your friend might be
ready for another coke.

What friend?

The one who says he's working
on the green river case.

Sande, I didn't invite him.
I've already told him no.

Fine.
I'll fix him a plate.

Hey, Dave.
Bob.

Let's take a walk.

You know what
the worst part is?

The phone?
Yeah.

It rings, and I pray
it's not another body.

Some cop. I'm afraid
to pick up the phone.

These are still missing.

Downing's talking about
folding the task force
back into homicide.

He does that,
I'll never catch him.

He's out there, Bob.

Hunting.

And I'm not even close
to stopping him.

[moaning]

[exhales, grunts]

[phone ringing]

[woman]
are you any closer
to finding somebody?

Any closer at all?
I mean--

Well, uh--
[clears throat]

We are narrowing the list
of suspects every day.

We're gonna get him.

I can promise you that.

We know you're
doing your best.

My daughter was smart.

She was in college.

She would never get herself
into a situation where she--

Okay.

Yeah.

[woman]
I want to know
where she is so I can--

So I can
bring her home.

[phone ringing]

[whooshing & crunching sounds]
[young woman screams]

[screaming]

[screaming echoes]

[Sande]
you're not sleeping.

Hi. No.

I should cut down
to three pots of coffee
instead of four, huh?

Reichert's a victim, too.

You know?
He's just-- It's--

He's getting overwhelmed by it all.
It's kind of caving in on him.

You know, it's--
He's near the edge.
I can see it.

I know.
I've seen it before.

Oh, I'll be fine.
It's-- you know.

It's not-- Sande,
it's not even my case.

I'm just-- You know,
I'll consult and...

What? You're--
you're gonna--

Uh-- just-- yeah.

Reichert will call,
and I'll give
an opinion, and...

done.

Office too warm, Bob?

I saw the crowd.
I thought it was
a bake sale.

After the 6:00 news,
the perp's gonna
know everything we know.

Count on that.
What do you got?

Bones. Female.
Two sets, he thinks.

You find the way the perp
dragged the body down the hill?

I will.
[men arguing]

This is a crime scene.
What do you think you're doing?

[Reichert]
Guys?
Come on!

Easy, Reichert. The media's
on our backs enough as it is.

Bob? How you doing?
It's been awhile.

Yeah. I'm doing fine,
downing.

Keppel and I worked
major crimes together.

You two know each other, huh?

Yeah, I was Reichert's Rabbi
when he was a rookie.

I just got a cold case
I need to ask him about,
if that's all right.

Yeah. Sure.

It's nice seeing
you, captain.

Oh, I see they're
finally gonna fry Ted.

Yeah, I guess so.

When is that?

I don't know exactly.

Uh-Huh.
We'll see you, Bob.

Can you, uh,
can you get me
those victims' jackets?

I guess so. I mean,
strictly speaking,

I'm not supposed to--
just bring them to my house.

Police aren't saying
whether this latest grisly find

Is the work
of the green river killer,

but there seems little doubt
that this gruesome discovery

will be added
to the growing total,

Bringing the number
of victims to 15,

All of them apparently
prostitutes who worked
a three-mile stretch

Of the pacific highway south
known as "The Strip."

[news anchor] Thank you, Lyn.
And here's Vince Conrad with
the weather for this weekend.

[Reichert]
They all had those
pyramid-type rocks

found in their
vaginal canals,
except for Mills.

They all found in the water?
Not all of them.

This is where
I found mills.

Bob?

So, he brings Chapman here.

Then Hinds.

And then Mills,
but something happens.

He doesn't put Mills
in the water. He doesn't
shove a rock into her.

The bridge.
Maybe someone was on it.

He panicked
and dropped her.

[phone ringing]

Keppel, huh?

Just a suggestion, sir.

He was lead
on the Bundy case,

So he's up to speed
on serials,

And so he'd be like
an independent review.

So if we had to
fold the task force
back into homicide,

nobody would say we didn't
do everything we could.

That's not bad.

You know,
the day they got word
that Bundy was busted,

He was next on Keppel's
prime suspect list.

No, sir, I didn't know that.
Yeah.

All that time, and then
some Utah State trooper

gets him
on a traffic violation.

Huh.
How's he doing? Okay?

He seems fine.

Good. Those cases
can suck you under.

Ruin your career.

Yeah. Okay.

Have Keppel review
what we've done so far
and write up a report.

A good report.

You understand what I mean
by "good," don't you, Reichert?

It'll be good, sir.

[distant siren wailing]

[Keppel]
so you begin.

You start putting together
the pieces.

Who he hunts,
where he hunts--

his killing ground.

What he does to them
after he's killed them.

All the foul places
he lives.

Until he seeps
into your pores.

Lives in your dreams.

and if you do it right...
[heavy thud]

[grunting]

Then, maybe...

maybe you can
learn enough to stop him.
[grunting]

[grunting]

And you pray.

[breathing heavily]
you pray a lot.

Because you know if you don't
stop the son of a bitch,
he'll keep on killing.

[Downing]
Are you aware of how
this makes us look?

Like a bunch
of bumbling incompetents.

I don't think it's
as bad as you're making it out.

"Where are
the follow-Up reports?"

"Same frame of reference
for all interviews."

"More bodies
means more cops."
You think this is helpful?

Some of Keppel's suggestions
aren't bad, lieutenant.

I think he's just trying to help.
Help?

You know him well, do you?

Not really, sir.

He's an okay guy, Reichert.
He's a complex guy.

But look, each one of us has
a different reason for doing
what we do on this case.

You, Keppel, and me.

My reason is very simple.

I need to make
an entire department work

On a budget that wouldn't pay
for a decent bottle of scotch.

I know that, sir.

If you knew it,
this report would reflect it.

Look, I don't wanna fold
your task force into homicide,

But I got a lot of cases,
and yours is just one of them.

And it's
about hookers.

And half the time
no one even knows
if they're missing.

Am I making myself clear here?

It's about people,
lieutenant.

Yeah, well, you gotta learn
to prioritize, detective.

Now, go on, get outta here
while I figure out what to
do with this damn thing.

Sir?

Keppel sent a copy
of the report to the chief.

He wasn't happy.

Well, he'll get over it.

Bob, it took me eight years
to get my gold shield,
and I would appreciate--

Eight years?

Just eat your doughnut.

Eat it yourself, Keppel.
Oh, come-- relax.

It'll blow over.
Just have your coffee.

What are you
in this for, Keppel?

The same thing you are.

[loud rock music playing]

Thanks, guys!

[music continues]

Dinner's in the oven.

Thanks. Sorry.

It's just it was so busy
down there. God!

It's never-Ending.

What is it?

Hi, dad.

Hi, sweetie.

[scoffs]
bye.

Mail's on the coffee table.

You want to tell me
what's going on?

I don't know
what's going on.

He has our address.
How did he get our address?

I don't know,
and it doesn't matter.

He's in prison.
He's not going anywhere.

You don't know that.
He's escaped twice already.

What are you doing?

What am I supposed to do,
just ignore it?

That man is evil, Bob.
He infects everything he touches.

I don't want any
thing from that man
in this house.

Throw it out.

I'm not gonna throw it out.

It's what I do.

[Bundy's voice]
Dr. Keppel,

It's quite presumptuous
of me to write, I know,

But I think
I might be of help

With your investigation
of the green river murders.

I believe I have strong
insights into the mind
of the man responsible

For placing the bodies
on the locations
you have found.

[alarm buzzes]

I've been incarcerated
with several serial killers,

and as a result of my extensive
conversations with them,

I think I know a serial killer's
frame of mind and motives

better than almost anyone.

Because of this, I believe I can bring
a unique perspective

To your hunt
for the Riverman.

I look forward
to hearing from you.

Honey?

Just...

sweetheart, I know how bad
it was for you not getting Bundy.

We all do, but--
No, that was just history.
It was years ago.

I know, I know,
I'm, uh...

I'm just saying that...

okay.

Okay, well,
just... say it.

Why are you doing this
to yourself?

You know, I'm not doing
anything to myself.

I'm just doing my job.

I know, I know, but it's my job
to protect this family.

I mean, do you think that you
were the only one that--

Honey, sometimes you'd come home,
your head was so far into Bundy,

Those kids, they'd run
into their rooms and hide.

You'd come to bed,
and you'd...

you'd lay there,
your head was
so full of death.

Hey, hey, hey...

okay, come here,
come here.

[sniffles]

Okay.

Hey.

I-I know it was bad.

Neither of us want
to go back there.

You gotta trust me, Sande.

in the letter,

Bundy says
he can help us find
the green river killer,

And they're gonna need me
to go back and talk to him.

It's not about Bundy.

It's just about catching the killer of these--
God knows how many--

It's not about
the eight women in Seattle
that Bundy didn't confess to?

No.

It's under control.
That's...

I know how far I can go.

I will not put this family
through that again.

Ever.

[ship horn blows]

[knocking]

[door opens]

You wanted to see me, sir?

Dave, nice to see you.
Come on in.

I reread Keppel's report again
and you're right, Dave.

A couple of his points
make sense.

I sent it upstairs with
a recommendation that we
implement the suggestions.

Chief Erickson agrees.
He's expanding the task force.

And he's giving us more money
so we can do it right,

And he wants Keppel
to work with us,

So he's now
officially on board.

You're kidding.

Now, enjoy your trip
and report to me
when you get back.

What trip?

I'll let him
explain that.

I-I can't go anywhere.

I have to integrate
the new people
into the task force.

Uh, see, the chief feels that with
a task force this size,

It'd be better
if I walk the point.

So you'll
be my number two.

Nice work, Dave.

What the hell is going on?

Politics.
Politics is going on.

I lost the task force.

Downing played me like a fish!
[laughs]

Yeah. That he did.

You think that's funny, don't you?
No, I don't, no.

But the next time
somebody tries to play you,
it's not gonna be so easy.

What's this?
It's a plane ticket.
We're going to Florida.

For what?
Ted Bundy.

This here was used
for quarantined prisoners
back when they built the place.

Bundy raised holy hell
when I put him here.

Some crapola
about his rights.

I told him he shouldn't
have tried to escape.

You'd think a right
smart fellow like that
would be thanking me,

putting him
in the coolest cell
in the prison.

Never has.

This is the coolest?
Even on a hot day.

Sammy will let you out
when you've had enough.

Thank you
for your help,
warden Owens.

I may be a redneck
son of a bitch, Mr. Keppel,

But Ted Bundy ain't
gettin' out of my prison.

I understand that.

I know you do.

let me know
if you need anything.

Other than a good shower
when you get done with him.

[gate opens]

Hello, Ted.

Oh, uh... hey, Bob.

Long time no see.

How you doin'?

I'm good. Thanks.

This is my partner
Dave Reichert
from King County.

He's the presiding detective
on the green river case.

Listen, Bob, I, um,
I think I made a mistake.

How so?

Well, I-- I think I wasted
your time,

Bringing you all the way
down here.

It was presumptuous of me
to think that I could have
any insight into this case.

I mean, I'm--
[scoffs]

I'm no detective.

You guys are much better
at this than I am.

Doesn't mean you don't
have good ideas.

Your letter indicated
some insights.

We're looking forward
to hearing 'em.

I did have this one idea
about catching him,
but, uh...

[scoffs]
you'd probably think
it was a little bit odd.

If I felt that way
about your ideas,
I wouldn't be here.

Well, I... I had this one thought,

and, uh, well,
you may think
it's way off-Kilter,

But it occurred to me,
you know,

no one has ever made
a correlation between
violent sexual movies

That involves
fantasy role-playing.

People who actually
act upon them.

And I was thinking,
if you held a slasher film festival

In the sea-tac area,
mm-hmm.

I guarantee you that if you
staked out the theater...

[brushing teeth]

And took pictures
of all the patrons
going in and out,

[spits, continues brushing]

I'm sure you'd have a...
[spits]

whole pile of suspects.

That's another discussion.

one thing's certain:

This Riverman of yours
is a low-risk hunter.

Uh-Huh. Low-Risk hunter?

Yeah. Whores
are easy prey.

They're bold,
hard to intimidate,

Cut off from their families.

No one cares if they're
missing for a few days.

Can we just get some perfunctory
questions out of the way?

Are aware the interview's
being taped?

I am.

And it's being done
with your approval?
Yes.

See, this guy's
a bottom-feeder.

Doesn't have the moves,
control for classy victims.

Trolling.

Tell me about trolling, Ted.

Well, it's, uh...

It's what he does.

[Bundy]
This one plans.

He knows his hunting ground.

He trolls until he
finds the one he wants.

And then when--
When everything's right--

The time,

The place,

The feeling...

he casts his lure and...

[snaps fingers]
gotcha.

You'd be surprised
at the kind of people
running around out there.

It's, uh...
[laughs]

It's frightening.

So what's a classy victim?

Women with normal lives:

Clerks, housewives, students.

Subjects who live
in neighborhoods

With friends who'll miss
'em if they disappear.

Subjects that take skill

To lure them out of
their comfort zones.

Subjects you need
to put the moves on.

In other words,
things that are of an art.

How? How does he lure them?
What are his moves?

The Riverman
doesn't have moves.
They come to him.

We are talking
about the Riverman,
aren't we, Bob?

Well, what else are we
allowed to talk about, Ted?

I can get you inside
his head, but, um...

I'm gonna need
the files to do it.

Mm...
[chuckles]

Well, you don't expect
me to work from news reports,
do you, Bob?

What's this, one file?

Yes, one file.

There'll be more later
if it works out.

Wait a minute.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[laughs]

Where are the photos?
The crime scene photos,
the coroner's photos.

There's no photos in here.

[closes briefcase]

There are lots of photos, Ted.

[keys jingling]

[gate opens]

Hey, Bob.

I heard you took it hard
when the--

When the killer of those
eight Seattle women
got away from you.

It's good to see you
feeling better.

[gate closes]

Are you okay?

Yeah, I'm fine.

That boy's a piece of work,
all right.

Talking to him's like having
a slug crawl over your face.

Yes, when you're talking
to his good side.
Thanks, Sammy.

[Reichert]
I apologize.
[Keppel] what for?

I thought
you were playing me
to get to Bundy.

You sure I'm not?

[truck horn honks]

[shower running]

[phone ringing]

Detective Keppel.

He what?

Well, yeah--

What, does the judge think
he's dealing with a shoplifter?

That son of a bit--

Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Thank you.

The judge in Utah let Bundy
travel while he's out on bail.

So where is he?

He's here.

[Keppel]
here he comes, folks.

Ted Bundy, law student.

Pride of the Seattle
Young Republicans.

You read that article
in the P.I.?

Politician runnin'
off about how it couldn't
be his friend Ted.

Let's see
what he has to say.

Bob, are you sure
you want-- Oh, Shit.

Hey, Ted.

You need some help
with that?

Oh, no, no,
I-I got it. Thanks.

Bob Keppel,
king county.

You guys must think I'm a--
a flight risk, huh?

No. We just think we have
eight open cases we'd
like to talk to you about.

Yeah, yeah, I know,
but, um...

[sighs]
now is not the time.

[line ringing]

Hey, Reichert.
Reichert.

Bundy is gonna
use the Riverman
to tell us about himself.

It's because he understands
the Riverman, Dave.

We'll still get--
[giggling]

[giggling]

[giggling continues]

Tell me you didn't bring
those with you.

Sure. I take 'em
everywhere.

Relieves tension.

[giggling continues]

You have the opportunity
to have a whole lot more fun
relieving the tension.

No! No, I...

I-I didn't.
I mean I wouldn't.
I'm married.

Buzz off, Keppel.

You are Jimmy Stewart,
aren't you?
No!

No! I am-- I am...
really embarrassed.

So what do you think
got the biggest
reaction yesterday?

The photo.
It got to him.

Yeah. And you know what?
He's scared.

Of what?
Probably scared
of being worthless.

He wants us to know
he's important.

So we're gonna tell
him he's aces.

We're gonna respect him.

Can you handle that?

I don't know.

This is a continuing
conversation
with Ted Bundy.

The time is 1400 hours.
Go ahead.

Hey, Bob.
Yeah.

I don't suppose
you can have a word
with the warden,

See if we can do these
interviews out there?

I feel kind of
claustrophobic in here.

Well, I don't know. I'll--
I'll see what I can do.

Thanks.

Let me say
first of all that...

I have a lot of
preconceptions
based on nothing,

Just based on a feeling,
intuition.

And having said that,
I went over the file
you gave me,

And, uh, it sort of
reshaped my feelings,
looking at what you had here.

Yeah.
And then I just got to,
you know,

Jotting a few things down,
and you see here,

It shows the date...

and approximate time
of each disappearance.

And given the data,
you can that see he
must work odd hours.

At his day job,
not his night work.

Ted.
Yeah.
That's good work,

Well, I'm no expert
in this area,

But I do have a degree
in psychology.

Am I loud enough
for that tape?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, no, it's making--
It's making sense.

Just keep going.

Thanks, Bob.
I hope it's helpful.

As you can see,
he's only taken
one victim on a Friday

And one on a Saturday.

Clearly he prefers to hunt
Sunday through Thursday.

Well, what do you
think about that?

He's got a weird day job.

Yeah, or he spends
weekends with his family.

Yeah, yeah,
that's good thinking.

Or he works
Sunday through Thursday

And trolls while
he's working, like a--

Like a cabbie.
Yeah, like a cabbie.

Or a bartender...

or a pimp...

or anyone who works
on the Strip.

Not anyone.

Anyone nonthreatening.

See, the whores are
looking for a monster,

Some big, drooling, tattooed guy
with a meat cleaver in his hand,

And that's just stupid.

'Cause the Riverman
looks normal,

Just like you and me.

Yeah, he's just
a normal guy, Bundy.

He is a normal guy.
That's the point.

Normal guys don't
kill little girls.

Dave!
Normal guys don't
leave heads in fields.

Dave, can it.

You know, Bob,
I'm sick and tired of being
treated like an animal

or ogled at like
I'm some kind of weirdo,
because I'm not.

And if you think you're
gonna catch the Riverman, Dave,

you're very much mistaken

Because you don't have
the guts to pay the price.

You know what?

Well, let's see
what Thetacoma Herald
had to say about it, shall we?

Detective Reichert of
the green river task force

must be feeling the heat
with more than a dozen
unsolved murders--

Dave, no, no.

Wow, that's some review.

Yeah, there are still
more bodies out there.

I guarantee it.

I wanted to waste him.

I really did.
I wanted to kill him.

I never done that before.

Man!

Maybe he's right,
Bob. Maybe I'm not cut
out for serial work.

You through whining?

Go to hell!
Oh!

A swear word just escape
that virgin mouth?

What is it with you
anyway, Keppel?

I screw up,
and all you can
do is joke about it?

The reason I'm working
with you is 'cause you have
the balls to ask for help,

which means
you're more interested
in bringing down the perp

than protecting
your skinny ass,

but it's not gonna happen
unless you learn to
control your emotions.

Dave, did I say
we were gonna try
and keep a low profile

so the press doesn't
find out we're here?

Yeah. Why?

Your fan club's
been busy.

Ah, geez!

Mr. Reichert,
you have message.

Okay?

Don't they usually
leave messages
in your room?

Found another dump site.

[Bundy]
so, uh, where's Dave?

[Keppel]
He's back in Seattle.

You know, I don't think
Dave's gonna make it, Bob.

[handcuffs click]
What do you mean?

Well, he's too confrontational
too judgmental.

You'd last a second with
any of the guys on the row
with an attitude like that.

[click]

How does a detective
talk to someone

Without them feeling
they're being judged?

Well, first you have
to establish trust.

How do you do that?
How do you get 'em to talk?

Me?
Yeah.

Well, I play at being
intrigued at what they did.

See, each guy has
a particular view
of the world,

So I just figure out
what that is.

I'm sorry. I'm not really
following you.

Can you give me
an example?

There's this one guy
I got talking to here.

He told me
all about the women
he'd killed, but...

wouldn't talk about this one
little girl he was accused
of raping and murdering.

Mm-Hmm.

Finally he admitted that
he couldn't talk about it

because people would think
that he was a bad person.

Get what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Anyway, I was, um,

I was going over my notes
last night, and...

my initial impression
was that the person
you're looking for

is probably
a young white male

Possibly working at
a low-paying job that
restricts his movement.

And how young is young?

20, 25.
Married?

Doubt it.

He's got girlfriends?

Well, if there is someone,

It's more than likely
there have been
relationship problems.

I also think there's
an excellent chance

That this guy's been
picked up for something.

Really?

Assault, battery,
maybe.

I don't know.
Hmm.

He's impressive...
to a point,

Given the fact that
his cargo gets into cars
with strange men for a living.

Yeah, yeah, but these are-
- I mean, they're tough.

They're street-smart girls.
I mean, how does he do it?

Well, he blends.

He knows the scene.

Yeah, he knows it better
than his prey does.

He knows her hours,

The corner she works,

When she hasn't tricked
and her pimp's in her face
to produce.

And then, then when
the time is right,

He moves...

soft as the rain.

He's flowing now...

like a river...

because...

she's the one, the chosen.

And she?

She belongs...

to him.

Car?
What's going on in his mind
when he's got her in the

well, it's hard to say.

I mean, how can I get deeper
into his head?

You sure you wanna
go through that again?

Yeah, but I need you
to help me.

[scoffs]
That's good psychology, Bob.

You know what you are?

What?

You're a fisherman
who fishes for years

and only catches
small fish.

Deep down, you know there's
a real big fish under there,

One that always gets away.

But you'll never catch him.

The only way you're gonna know
what goes on under the water
is to go under the water.

But fisherman drowns
going underwater.

I can take you there
without drowning, but...

in order to do that,
I'm gonna need the photos.

[door closes]

Crime scene photos.

I might be able
to do it with that.

These are
complex people, Bob.

People who have things
to teach us about life...

about ourselves.

Yeah, everything's fine.
How are the kids?

They're fine.
David's practicing,

and Ally's
making like a pretzel.

Bob, are you there?

Yeah, yeah.
How are the kids--
Sorry. How are you?

I'm fine.
How's it going with Bundy?

Oh, it's a piece of cake.
It's okay.

Honey, I got a real long day
tomorrow, okay? I love you.

Hold on.
Ally wants to say hello.

Here, sweetie.

Hi, dad.

[hangs up]

Dad?

[dial tone]

He hung up.

[girl screams]

[Bundy]
he feels the power,
the drive.

No one can touch him.

He is invincible.

And what else
does he feel?

Anticipation,

Excitement, arousal.
Very high state of arousal.

Can he satisfy his arousal?

Only by possessing her...

completely.

And how? How does he
possess her completely?

Well, the ultimate possession
is death.

[Bundy]
Time slows.

It's an aura.

It's hallucinogenic.

But at the center,

At the center,
there's clarity.
Ice in the fire.

[Keppel]
what is he thinking
about his subject?

She's a symbol:
a gook, a Nazi.

And he must keep it
that way.

Why is that?

Well, a symbol doesn't
create problems. Humans do.

So he doesn't let her talk.

He chatters, he entertains.

And she is captivated.

How do you feel, Bob?

Could you-- Could you see her,
smell her, taste her?

[guard]
Mr. Keppel, you got
a phone call out here.

No, not now, Sammy.

No, it's your partner, sir.
He says it's important.

You were there.
I mean, I know you were.

No, you were there, Ted.

Yeah.

Yeah, I was.

But I was helpful,
wasn't I?

Well, we'll see.

You know, you should
go to the Strip, Bob.

See what he sees.

Be the Riverman.

Who knows?
Maybe you are.

[hinge squeaks]

[gate closes, locks]

Thank you.

This better be good, Dave.
He's starting to talk.

He keeps at it, he might
even buy himself some time.

We have a suspect.
After what Bundy said,

I checked out the guys who've
been picked up on the Strip.

He was busted for soliciting
an undercover cop

in April of '82,

divorced twice with
a history of spousal abuse.
Uh-Huh.

He admits to a fascination
with prostitutes.

And this.

[locks brake]

Paints trucks at Kenworth.
That's about 20 minutes
from the Strip.

Come on.

What?

This is how you want it, right?
Yeah.

[yelps]
Bitch.

You're a pretty one.
[whimpers]

[grunting]

Take it, slut.
You like this, don't you?
Yes.

You fuckin' like it.
[grunts]

Where does he live?
Near the green river.

She called the des moines police
and swore he was trying to kill her.

The cops stop his pickup,
and he says he choked her
because she bit him.

[man yells]

[groans]

[Reichert]
He had a bite mark
to prove it.

This happened
three years ago.
Yeah.

And nobody thought he might
just possibly be a suspect.

It was buried
in the Port police files.

So they let him walk.
Why not? She's just a whore.

Lift your right arm.

Okay.

[beeping]

Keep your hand there.
Is that comfortable?

Yeah.

Answer truthfully
to the best of
your knowledge.

Is your name
Gary Leon Ridgway?

Yeah.

He volunteered to take it.

Quiet, Haney.

[beeping]

Answer truthfully and
to the best of your knowledge.

Is your name
Gary Leon Ridgway?

Yes.

What else
you got on him?

Questioned again
by the Port police in '82.

They found him
parked by the field where
Wim's skeleton was found.

Says he might've dated her,
but he can't remember.

Answer truthfully and
to the best of your knowledge.

Do you work
at Kenworth Trucking?

Yes.

Tell Downing to search
his house again

And this time look
for souvenirs like
jewelry and clothing

and hair, teeth.

Anything that could've
come from a victim.
Right.

You should get
started with that.

Will do, Mr. Keppel.

[door opens, closes]

As soon as they're
done with him,

Let's see if he'll give
us a mouth swab.

With primer spots.

Yes. Yes, sir.
That's my truck.

I, um, got it in, uh...
'77, I think.

Hey, beautiful.

You're-- You're home.
Is everything all right?

Yeah, yeah.
We got a suspect.

I need a shower,
and I gotta go back
to work later,

but not before I've had
dinner with my wife.

Dad, I got this.

Okay.

[Bundy]
you should go
to the Strip, Bob.

See what he sees.

[Keppel]
you like weather like this,
don't you?

'Cause you know most
of the police are busy
with the accidents

that the bad weather brings,

and the others are somewhere
drinking coffee, staying dry.

The hunting's good, isn't it?

'Cause you know the only
hookers out tonight...

are desperate, don't you?

You son of a bitch.

So you troll.

And you find her.

And you know it's her...

because...

because she's the one.

The chosen.

She belongs to me.

She belongs to me.

[no audible dialogue]

To me.

You're my subject.

My cargo.

Mine.

Police! Police!
Out of the car now!
Get out of the car!

Get your--
Get your hands off!
Get your hand off me!

You have no idea who I am!
I don't care who you are!

Get those cuffs on him!

It's all right!
He's a cop!
Goddamn it!

He's a cop!
Show him your badge!

You got a badge?
Come on!
It's all right, guys.

It's all right.
It's all right.

Jesus! Come on.
He's on the job.

All right, guys.
Sorry, sorry. Thanks.

[cop]
A badge on the job.

Kinda quiet, Dave.
You all right?

I'm all right.

You're my partner.
Talk to me.

What are you doing?

Why didn't you tell
him you're a cop?
I did.

After I yelled at you.
Man!

That was scary, Bob.

Yeah, well--
listen to me.

Listen to me, Bob!

We have another problem.

Ridgway passed
the polygraph.

Ridgway! You got company!

Gary?
Yeah.

I'm Bob Keppel.
Hi.

This is Dave Reichert.
Remember him?

Someplace we can go and
talk where it's quiet
for just a minute?

Sure. A room over here.

It's, uh...

it's about the polygraph,
I guess.

Yeah, it's kinda--
I mean, I just wanna clear
a couple things up with you.

Pretty busy day.
This gonna take long?

Nah, maybe just five minutes.
You'll be back on shift.

Well, you can, uh--
hey, hey, Riverman!
Going up the creek this time!

Yeah, hey,
killer, killer!
Sorry about that.

You guys been here a lot,
and they like to tease me.

I know it's a pain
in the ass for you.

It's a pain
in the ass for us.
Yeah.

Everybody's fed up.

They're gonna disband
the task force. Really?

Yeah, well, I mean,
they're whores anyway, you know.

Yeah, but some of them
are okay, though.

Oh, that's why you said you
were fascinated with prostitutes.

I'm sorry.
F-fascinated?

Yeah. You said
you were fascinated
with prostitutes, right?

Oh, yeah, well,
that's, uh--

They-- They sell sex.

I mean, that's, uh--
That's kinda--

It's not normal,

And yet they strut around
like it's normal.

And, I mean, you know,
they wear those clothes and...

I mean...

what do you mean, Gary?

You know what I mean.
[chuckles]

Yeah. No, I know.
I know what you mean.

I can't believe it, some of the
clothes those girls wear.

No.

You ever rape anyone,
Gary?

No.

No, I wouldn't do that.

Rapists are...

not me, okay?

Rapists are scum.

Okay.
And that's not you.

No. I'm not that.

Okay.

Okay?

Thank you.

Thanks.

He's the perp.
Just like that?

His reaction
when I asked him
if he raped anybody--

I'd react
the same way, Bob.

No. You'd react like
it was unthinkable.

And he reacted like he was
afraid people were gonna
think he's a bad person.

So what's the plan?

Take me to the airport.

What?

Take me to the airport.

You're going back?

[sighs]

Why, Bob?

Why are you doing this
to yourself, hmm?

Look, Bob, last night--

This is none of--

No, no, it is my business.

They say when you were
working the Bundy case

That you had
some kind of breakdown--

Hey, look, they say wrong,
all right?

Dave, you gotta
crawl under rocks
where the serials live,

Then you gotta come back,
you gotta tell people
what you saw.

[engine starts]

Let's go.

[Keppel]
I don't wanna be
talked out of this.

What do I tell your daughter?

About what?

Damn. Okay. Just
tell her I'm sorry and--

you know, I don't know
what else I--

Sande, Bundy--
The appeal was denied, okay?

He's vulnerable.

So are you.

Well, that's--
that's unfair. I...

yeah, okay, maybe, but I--

I have to do this.

Okay, so there's
a morality to murder.

Oh, sure.

I mean, you may not agree
with what the Riverman does,

But to understand,
you gotta empathize with him.

And I mean real empathy, Bob,

Not "let's have a cup of coffee
and a cigarette and let's
talk about it" bullshit.

I mean, these guys,
they have to live
with their urges,

and they have
to keep 'em secret.

You think that's easy?

To kill and keep yourself
socially acceptable?

To be a serial killer
and keep your day job?

Give credit to that,
for being normal when--

When you're possessing
your subject.

You saw, didn't you?

Tell me.
Tell me what you saw.

No.

Oh, come on, Bob.

And it belongs to me.

You felt it, didn't you?

No.

Come on, tell me.

I was soft.

Soft as the rain.

Flowing like a river.

And?

Ted, later.

No. Now.
Tell me now, Bob.

I understand. I do.
You know I do.

Oh, I get it.
[scoffs]

You did something to her,
didn't you?

It's okay, it's okay.
I understand.

Oh! Whoa!
[laughs]

Stop looking at me
like that, man.

You're giving me
the creeps.

Okay, okay.

Um...

look, if you, um,
if you talk...

to the Florida Attorney General,
he'll listen to you.

I mean, I'm not asking
for clemency

Or weekend furloughs
or anything like that.

Just a reasonable
amount of time to
go over everything,

Top to bottom,
to give the families
closure.

He'll recommend a stay,

And the governor
will grant it.

Hey, let's get real.

The governor doesn't
care about you.

As a police investigator,
I gotta assume you're
gonna die on Tuesday.

You gotta start thinking
about what you're gonna
give law enforcement

between now and Tuesday!

I wanna help you.
I can't!

I gotta know some
things about Seattle.
Okay, okay, all right.

Reichert.

Good evening, Dave.
What's up?

The search results were
negative on Ridgway�s
house and vehicles,

And our surveillance
of the Strip was busted
by the 11:00 news.

Mm-Hmm.
They can run the swab,

but if they do,
it'll consume
the entire sample,

So I told 'em
to hold off and wait

until we get further along
with the DNA research.

Yeah, that's smart.
Good thinking, Dave.

Yeah, yeah. How about you?
You doing any good?

[Keppel]
Yeah, you know,
we're getting there.

[Reichert]
Yeah, I think I do.

Good hunting, Bob.

Be safe, huh?

Be safe.

[keys jingle,
gate unlocks]

[gate closes, locks]

So how do you want
to proceed?

Well, uh...

I'm sure you're aware of
the limitations we're under.

This is phase two
of the death watch,

and obviously that puts us
under some kind of restraint.

Talking of which,
how'd it go with
the Attorney General?

I'm not gonna blow smoke
up your ass, Ted.

Hope I know for a fact
there's not much

he's gonna intervene
in Tuesday's proceedings,

unless something
really changes.

I've got an idea of the scope,

but I'm only representing
Washington here, so...

let's start with
Hawkins first.

The facts I have are
basically what's available
in the newspaper.

Missing from one location.

Never found.

Gee, this is, uh...

This is probably
the hardest part. Um...
[chuckles]

Yeah.

I don't know. Um...

Now we're gettin'
right down to it.

Uh, we'll talk about it.
It's, um...

it's just
I hope you understand

It's not something
I find easy to talk about
after all this time.

No, I understand.
You take your time.

What we have here is, um...

is a situation where
we have an individual
who is, um...

basically seeking
to satisfy his urges.

And, um,
in order to do that,

He has to put his subject
at ease. Um...

so this guy, this entity, he, um...

he puts her at ease.
He jokes.

He makes her laugh.

Whoa! Take my advice.
Don't ever sprain an ankle.

[grunts]

Shit.

Want some help
with that?

Oh, would you?
That would be great.

Thanks.
[sighs]

You have no idea
how tired I am
of dropping that.

I feel like such a klutz.
[laughs]

My car is right over here.

My name's Georgeanne,
but they call me George.

George. Wow.

That is such a cute name.
And it suits you, too.

'Cause the entity is young.
He's handsome.

He's not at all
threatening.

And he has a V.W.,
needs room for his crutches.

Yeah, and, um...

he has her now.
His control is
almost complete.

[Keppel]
So he's her prince.

No, no, no.
He's her savior.

And she's his...

till she turns bad.

Tell me,
what would you do, Bob?

Hmm? What would you
do to her?

To her breasts, hmm?

And after her breasts,

When you got down there
to the holy of holies?

When did he
fracture her skull?

Huh?

Her skull was fractured.
When did he do it?

'Cause he couldn't let her
just talk there in the car.

That would've made her
too familiar, wouldn't it?

So when did you
fracture her skull?

You mean the entity.

Truth, Ted.

I've been giving you
the truth, Bob.

Now it's time for
you to talk about it.
What, to you?

Well, somebody
who understands.

Oh, you understand.
That's a laugh.

What do you understand?

Did you have
three family names, huh?

Were you illegitimate?

Were you called
mommy's little brother?

Yeah. It hurts.

And hurt turns into rage.

And the rage grows
and grows.

But you can't let it out
because he's gotta be
mommy's good little brother,

or he'll get sent to grandpa's.

So he tries, but...
he gets sent anyway.

But it's okay, it's okay.
Grandpa doesn't beat on him.

He just locks him in the closet
and turns out the light.

I'm sorry.

Oh, that's good.

I'm on death row,
and you're sympathetic.

Bob.
That's a lot of help,

[sighs]

do you have any idea
what hell is?

No.

No.

You grow numb.

you lose
the ability to feel

because the hurt and
helplessness is too big
for you to deal with.

You learn to mimic feelings
so people will think
you're just like 'em,

but you're not.

You look for ways to...

to get stronger and stronger
with that feeling

to feel human, you know?

Then you get into porn,
soft-core at first,
then the hard stuff.

And the fantasies grow,
and they get stronger
and stronger...

till you can't sleep.

And you walk around,
looking into windows,

hunting for that feeling.

You say to yourself
it's just a game,
it's harmless,

you'll never really do it.

Then one day...

one day...
it's not enough.

[screams]

[groaning]

[screaming]

Next day you're
sick, horrified at what
you've done.

But excited, too,
because you felt,
for the first time.

you tell yourself
it's gonna stop, and...

For a little while,
it does.

What really happened
with Georgeanne?

You mean what did
the entity do.

No.
[presses button]

No.

Not the entity. You.

'Cause you didn't talk her
into the front seat, did you?

Let's-- Let's just
go through it...

step by step.

What happened?

Okay, what really happened?

You gotta tell me
what happened, Ted.

How was she taken?

The time and the events.
What were the circumstances
at the time?

[presses button]

The time...

I think it was May or,
or June.

It was a clear night.

Warm.

She was...
at the end of the alley.

Oh! Ohh!

Want some help?

Oh, sure.

Please.

Thanks.

It's a really big help.

My car's right over here.

They call me George.

Ted.
Hi. I'm--
My name's

I usually find a parking spot
close to the library,
but it's so crowded.

I guess people
are booking it
for finals.

Yeah, I was just there.
I think the whole up�s there tonight.

Sure looked like it.

Well, here we are.

Thank you.

You've been a big help.

Oh, that's okay.

Oh, gosh.
I'll get that for you.

[engine starts]

[George grunts]

I have trouble.

I have trouble with...

Pronunc--
[coughs]

Pronunciation.

I listen to tapes.
Shut up.

Okay?
Just shut up.

Tapes.

[speaking Spanish]

[Spanish]

[groans]

Please.
Just shut up, okay?

Shut up.

I need a tutor.
[laughs]

[Spanish]

I have trouble,
but you can help me with that.

That's why I hired you.

[speaking Spanish]

[George mumbles]

[incoherent mumbling]

[Ted mumbles]

[George speaking Spanish]

Shut up, shut up, shut up!

[George continues mumbling]

[Mumbling stops]

[Ted grunts, pants]

[sighs]

[chuckles]

You know,
it's kinda funny--

Well, not funny, but...

odd, the kind of things people
say under those circumstances.

She said, um...

she thought she had
a Spanish test the next day,

and that, uh...

she thought that
I had taken her

To help tutor her
with her test.

It's kinda odd.

Odd thing to say.

Anyway...

[clears throat]

I'm feeling kinda tired.

Can I be alone now?

What did you do to her, Ted?

Nothing.

I was scared.
I panicked.

I drove away.
I threw things
out of the window.

The tire iron, the rope.
Clothes.

Her clothes. Sure.

I didn't want to, um--

You took her clothes off.
You stayed with her.

All night.
So what did you do to her?

Nothing. Nothing.

Look... I don't wanna
talk about this right now.

Ted...

you stripped her down,
and you had sex
with the corpse.

Why?
No, no, I never said that.

Why'd you remove the head?
What?

'Cause we found her head.
We never found her body.
What happened?

I don't wanna
talk about this.

Ted, you cut off her head
with a hacksaw, and then...

Then you moved it
to a different place.

You took it back
to your apartment.

What is your problem, Bob?

You deaf?

I said... I don't
wanna talk about it.

We found four skulls
on Taylor Mountain.

They'd all decomposed
at the same rate

'cause you kept
'em in your apartment

and then you dumped 'em
at the same time.

So why'd you keep 'em?

It's because the corpse
is just as important
as live prey.

Isn't it?

It's...

complete control.

It's possession.

So tell me how it's possession.

You feel the...

the last bit of breath
leaving their body.

You're looking into
their eyes, and...

basically a person
in that situation...

is a God.

You possess them...

and they shall forever
be a part of you.

And the grounds where
you kill 'em or left 'em

becomes sacred to you.

And you will always
return to them.

So when you go back,
what do you see?

Her skin.

You admire that...

'cause it changes color...

From yellow to blue,
then purple,

While their fingernails
had turned black.

Arousing, isn't it?

And it makes you want
to interact with the body.

You had sex with the corpse.

No, no, no,
I never said that.

What'd you keep
the heads for?

What? What are you
talking about?

You had to keep 'em
for a reason.

I-I-I...
what for?

T-T-To remind me
of my power, okay?

And how do you do that?

By beating off to them.

Beating off to the skulls.

Okay?

Is that what
you wanted to hear?

So you can see
what kind of a freak I am?

Go ahead. Tell me.

Tell me!

[Keppel]
Bundy talked for
four days straight.

In the end, he confessed
to the unsolved murders
of the eight Seattle women,

including three more
in Washington that
weren't on our books,

plus another 19
in Utah, Colorado,

Florida, Oregon,
Idaho and California,

bringing the total
to 30 in all.

Why are you going?

Hey, Bob, I still have
more to tell you.

Please, Bob.

You're a hunter
just like me.

We're the same!

I'm you, you're me!
Admit it!

I still matter, Keppel!

I still matter!

[Keppel]
Bundy talked.

He talked to show himself
that he was still important.

Still in control.

But he wasn't.

I knew these weren't
the answers that the
families had hoped for,

But on a certain level,
we were grateful that we knew.

Two days after
our final interview,

Theodore Robert Bundy was
electrocuted as scheduled
at 7:00 in the morning.

A murderer who couldn't even
control his tears at the end.

Sande understood
the price I was paying
for my work with serials.

And it cost her, too.

Downing was promoted
to Captain

and cut back the task force.

Dave Reichert stayed with it
till he had to move on.

But he never forgot,

And he made sure
no one else ever forgot.

Years later, the sample
taken from the cotton swab

Was analyzed using
new DNA technology

And led to the capture
of the green river killer.

Gary Leon Ridgway was
arrested and charged

with the murders of Mills,
Chapman and Hinds,

and later confessed
to 57 more killings,

the greatest number of victims
of any serial killer

in the history
of the United States.

I, uh, I killed so many women,

I have a hard time
keeping 'em straight.

I placed most of the bodies
in groups I called "clusters,"

And I liked to drive by
the clusters

and think about the women
that I placed there.

I thought I was doing
you guys a favor...

killing...
killing prostitutes

because here
you can't control 'em,

and I can.

I, uh, had the answer.

If-- If I went and,
and raped somebody,

That is not-- that is not
what I would do. No.

They are low
on my category of people.

I'm not a rapist, no.
I'm a murderer.

I'm sorry for doing it,

But I wasn't, uh...

I wasn't killing a person.

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