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Hi. My name is Kevin Macdonald.I'm the director of Black Sea.
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And we're trying to saya few interesting things about it,
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to tell you more about what we didin the making of it, and hopefully
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give you a deeper understandingof the movie and what we intended.
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We don't need a submarine pilot anymore.
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We don't even need a sub.
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So, this is Jude Law as a Scotsman,
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and that's the first surprisethat a lot of people have
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when they watch this movie,
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that this is not the kind of rolethat they expect to see Jude Law in.
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And that's one of the things I love about it,is Jude really playing a character,
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really playing somebodyvery different from himself.
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And when I first approached him,
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I'd seen him in a play called Anna Christie,
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which is done by Eugene O'Neill,an American playwright.
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And he played in thata tough, butch stevedore
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on a steamship in the 1920s.
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And he built himself up a lot for it,and he had an Irish accent,
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and I thought, you know,
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that's not very far away from the partI wanted him to play in this submarine movie.
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And Jude absolutely loved the character,loved the part,
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loved the idea of really transforming himself.
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Today.
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That's how he became an unemployed,working class, Scottish sailor.
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And the first idea for making Black Sea
actually came from
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a famous story of a submarine disaster,called the Kursk disaster,
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which happened in the early 2000s.
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It was a Russian submarine, the Kursk,
went down with all hands
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and there was an explosion.
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But some of the submariners survivedthat initial explosion,
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and were in a couple of the compartmentswaiting to be rescued.
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But waiting in vain, it turns out.
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And I just imagined at the time,"How horrible is that?"
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That's got to be one of the worst ways to go.
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You're sitting on the bottom of the ocean
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and you know you're probablynot going to be rescued.
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I thought,"That's a great setting for a movie."
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I went to Dennis Kelly, who's the writer,
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to recruit Charles Steelwho he was working with as a producer.
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When I went to see Dennis Kelly,you know, who's a playwright,
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he'd done many, many different plays,but he'd done one set in a bunker,
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and that was the thingthat made me think, you know,
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he's somebody who's used to doingmen in enclosed spaces.
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And Dennis and I spoke about lots of things,
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but particularly we spoke abouta couple of movies
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which were pointing in the direction.
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One was The Treasure of the Sierra Madre,
great John Huston film,
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starring Humphrey Bogart,from the 1940s, something like that.
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Desperate men,unemployed men looking for treasure,
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and that's really what Black Sea is,obviously.
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And the other one was a French moviecalled The Wages of Fear
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by Henri-Georges Clouzot.
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And that's a movie again aboutdesperate men left on the scrap heap of life,
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who take on a really impossibly dangerousjob of driving a truck full of gelignite
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across some mountains in South Americain order to get the money
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that they think is gonna get themout of poverty and get them home, actually.
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So those are the two moviesthat we spoke about,
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and you can see here in the pub,
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that's what we've got here,these are all unemployed men.
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Men whose skills are no longer required,you know, been in the navy,
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then they've probably workeda few otherjobs, in salvage,
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like Jude Law's characterhas worked in a salvage yard.
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But they really feel they've beenthrown on the scrap heap of life,
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and I think there's a lot of men like thataround the world,
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in the kind of post-industrial erathat we live in.
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And obviously...That character there with the watches,
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that's Konstantin Khabenskiyplaying Blackie.
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Konstantin is a very,very well-known actor in Russia
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I'd say one of the biggest stars in Russia.
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So I think he could relateto this kind of character as well.
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People who've been left behind by progress,by deindustrialization, that kind of thing.
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And I think Dennis and I liked the ideaof having a kind of heist movie
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but set in a kind of real world.
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A world of real economic problems
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and working class peoplewho are struggling,
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and that's the reason that they getinvolved in this very dangerous heist.
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She looks good.
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We don't have to take this shit.
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- We don't have to take this shit.
- What the fuck you talk about?
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I think I know a way to not be like this.
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I know a way to get money.
Their fucking money.
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Now interestingly, this character Kurston,
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only until about a week or twobefore the shooting of this scene,
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we actually didn't have Kurston in this scene.
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We just talked about him, he was justa character that was only talked about.
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And obviously later on,he's talked about quite a lot.
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But at the last minute I thought,
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"No, God, we need to see this guywe talk about a lot."
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And so we got him in,and I think we get a lovely performance there.
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Liverpudlian character.
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Konstantin is one of those actors
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who's constantly inventing,constantly coming up with little moments,
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like that there where he pullsthe leaf off the tree and he smells it.
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We had a long conversationabout his character being someone
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who loves the smell of things,who's always sniffing and smelling out stuff.
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I love the way Jude does thatwith his collar there, that discomfort.
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There's a man who's never worn a suit,
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or not since his wedding dayor something like that has he worn a suit.
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And here's Scoot McNairy who's anabsolutely wonderful American actor
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in many, many good films.
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Funny enough, I had seen himin quite a lot of stuff,
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and Dennis had also seen him,
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and he was really the first choicefor this character,
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this slightly sleazy corporate individual.
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Sir, this is Robinson,
the man I told you about.
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What's your name and how much
are you going to invest in this?
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So, in 1941, Nazi Germany
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Now a lot of people...This story that's now coming up
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about the U-boat
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and how this gold ended upon the bottom of the Black Sea,
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a lot of people have told methat they think it must be historically true.
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Because Dennis has written itso convincingly, I suppose,
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and it sounds so convincing,all the detail of it.
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A few people are a bit disappointed whenthey realize that Dennis has just made it up.
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But in the '50s there's rumors that started...
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The obviously historical context of itis all absolutely correct.
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You know, the Hitler-Stalin pact.
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Stalin's fear of invasionbecause he knew he didn't have
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the military know-how and mightto fight off Hitler.
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So it's one of those thingsthat could have actually happened,
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you know, and is utterly believable.
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...found a series of shallow ridges
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I worked for a company
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They search for and salvage wrecks.
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They found a U-boat on one of these ridges,
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just 90 meters from the surface.
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As for Jude here,
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he's speaking as he is throughoutthe whole film in this Aberdeen accent.
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It's a very interesting thing when you getan actor to do quite an extreme accent
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all the way through a movie.
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Now, I'm Scottish, as you mightbe able to hear slightly in my voice.
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But I'm not from Aberdeen andI haven't lived in Scotland for a long time.
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But the reason we chose Aberdeen
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is because it's a very tough,no-nonsense accent.
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And it's also not the normal accent you hear.
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The normal Scottish accent you hear on filmis a Glasgow accent,
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maybe an Edinburgh accent,
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maybe a Western lsles accent,but you never really hear
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this sort of Aberdeen accent.
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The Aberdeen accent is very commonamongst sailors and people in the navy
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because it's got a long,long sea-faring tradition there.
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It's actually called the Granite City,Aberdeen.
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And Jude took that to heart.
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I think he had a little bit of granitein his trailer every day,
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which he'd sort of touchbefore he would go in to perform.
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And I think there's something about
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the accent and its no-nonsense quality.
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It's a kind of solidity that really does
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play a major rolein understanding this character Robinson.
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Okay.
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Kurston, it went well. Give me a call back.
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So how many men do we need?
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It's a Foxtrot-class sub.
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You want boat move, need 12 men minimum.
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Okay, well, we've got the two of us.
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Really interesting thing that we foundwhile making the movie actually was that
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we made it all either on location
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in London or Rochester,down in the coast of Kent,
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in the east of England.
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And we were always looking for a great cafe,
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a great old-fashioned working men's caf,
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and it was really hard to find.
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For some reason, these old cafsjust are closing down very rapidly,
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the same way as pubs are.
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It was hard to find a pubfor the scene in the pub.
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And we ended updoing quite a lot of this stuff...
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Funny enough, up by my housein north London
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seemed to be one of the last places
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where you can get somereal old dive pubs and cafs.
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Without anyone seeing.
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You need good divers for this.
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- Do you know Fraser?
- I know Fraser.
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Now, Konstantin, if you met him,you would realize
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he didn't actually speak very much English,his English is very limited.
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So he had to learn a lot of his lines,
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not quite phoneticallybecause he knew what he was saying,
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but he had to, you know, he had a tapeof somebody speaking the lines
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and he would listen to them,and listen to them,
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and listen to them and imitate them,and that's an amazingly hard thing to do,
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and usually results in an actor being,
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you know, sounding really stiltedand awkward.
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It's amazing that he's such a fine actorthat you really believe him.
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You believe that he is someonewho can speak heavily-accented English.
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I'll bet you are.
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Hi. It's Mark Kurston.Leave me a message. I'll get back to you.
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Kurston, where the hell are you? Call me.
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And this here is Bobby Schofield.
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This is Bobby's first film role.
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I met him, along with a lot ofother young actors for this part.
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It's an ingรฉnue role,I suppose you would call it.
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And Bobby came down from Liverpoolon the bus.
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And I think it was only his firstor possibly second visit to London.
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You know, he'd hardly left Liverpoolin his life.
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And he had hardly beento any auditions before.
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He'd done a little bit of community theatreand not much before.
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I just thought he was... He blew me away.
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And then I asked himto come back the next week
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and to meet with Jude.
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So the two of them read together,
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and we were both really struckby his natural abilities.
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I think he's going to go onand have a really long and great career.
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Say his wife's all right,
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He asked me to come and see you, though.
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Again, this is a location that's literallyaround the corner from my house.
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It's an old bowling club in north London.
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It's been abandoned,and we put Jude's flat in there.
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That was a spooky thing.
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On that table next where he's got the tea,that table was in the flat, the abandoned flat,
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and there were six teeth lined up on it,
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complete teeth that had fallen outof somebody's mouth.
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I don't know how it was lined up,
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but that sort of set the atmospherefor this spooky, poverty-stricken flat.
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- How old are you?
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Not yet. I'm 18.
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This scene, like a lot of the film,is beautifully lit and shot by Chris Ross.
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It's the first time I've worked with him,a young DP here in England.
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And on a very sort of tight budget,tight schedule,
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he did a greatjob, I think,of making the movie look big and expensive,
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which is part of what a DP ought to do.
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Now these shots are actually in Sevastopol,but that's not, that's Kent, that's Rochester.
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The previous shots are actuallyin Sevastopol in the Ukraine.
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I went there on a reccywith Chris Ross, the DP,
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and we hoped to film there.
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There was actually a submarine,very much like this one,
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a 1960s submarinewhich was still in active service,
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which had been used by the Ukrainian navyand they offered to let us use it.
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We were gonna take it actuallyunder the water and shoot on it.
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So I went on our reccy and shota few bits and pieces, but then of course
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geopolitics got in the way,
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and Russia invaded Ukraineand one thing and another,
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and now Crimea,which is where Sevastopol is,
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where the naval base is,
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is no longer Ukrainian of course,it's now part of Russia.
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And we couldn't go back and film there.
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We couldn't film with the Ukrainian navybecause they don't really exist anymore,
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certainly in that port.
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And there's a kind of unexpected topicalityabout this movie in some ways.
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You know, it's a period piece alreadybecause Crimea is no longer Ukrainian.
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So, that was a real submarine you saw,this is a real submarine,
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but the shot of Jude with the engine,that's actually a set.
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And I think Nick Palmer, who designedthe film, did an amazing job of combining,
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of blending together what's real submarineand what's actual set.
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You work on subs now, Reynolds?
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That's set, that's at Pinewood Studios.
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The previous shotwas on the real submarine.
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Now the real submarine,I should say a bit about that.
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The submarine that we shot on,that's a 1964 Russian sub.
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It was owned by a collector,I suppose you would say.
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Somebody collects submarines,if you can imagine that.
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There's a guy who bought it in the early '90sfrom the Russian navy,
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and brought it to the UK,and wanted to use it as a tourist attraction.
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In fact, he'd bought another one before,and the Russian navy sailed it over.
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I think he bought it for $100,000or something.
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And they sailed it over, and theygot as far as the Channel and then it sank.
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So they phoned him upafter they'd been rescued,
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the sailors phoned him up from Franceand said,
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"Oh, sorry, there's good news and bad news.The bad news is your sub's sunk.
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"The good news is thatwe've got another 12 back in Russia.
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"We're going to get you another one."
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So they went back,they sailed him another one,
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and he's had it sittingin various parts of the south of England.
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Tried to use it as a tourist attraction,itjust doesn't quite work.
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It's now been sitting for at least 10 yearsin the River Medway,
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which is in Rochesterwhere it comes out into the estuary,
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into the North Sea there.
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That's the real submarine,that's the entrance of it.
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This is the real submarine.
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This is the forward torpedo room.
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That's the real submarine.
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Off. On.
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They were very generous, the peoplewho owned it, letting us do an awful lot.
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See those lights there, we re-wired all of that.That's now set.
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That's Pinewood, so...
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We were able to do a lot of workto the submarine.
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A gyro.
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But it gave us a huge amount of set
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that we couldn't have otherwiseafforded to build properly,
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certainly not to the level of detailthat we'd have like to.
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This is obviously the set,the control room is in Pinewood again.
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120? It's a little low.
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As you can see, Nick did an amazing job
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of finding all these oldRussian dials and boxes.
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Some of them are molded, but someof them are actually real. He went to...
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He had another strange military collectorin Hungary who had a lot of this stuff,
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a lot of old Russian military gear.
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And we brought that stuff over,
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combined it with some things we foundin salvage yards, that kind of stuff.
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The main thing with the submarine is thatit is incredibly, incredibly complicated.
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Everywhere you look,there's pipes and gauges and dials.
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You wonder what the hell everything does.
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Stow that.
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What you got for me?
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So the batteries ain't that great.
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So, that's David Threlfall there,who's a really wonderful British actor.
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Best known for playing Frankin Shameless probably.
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He's also in Master and Commander,
which I saw the other night.
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He plays the cook, Russell Crowe's cook,in Master and Commander.
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But he's best known as Frankin Shameless in the UK.
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And I know there's an American versionof Shameless too, but he's not in that.
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Not that you'd ever recognize him.And he's put on this brilliant accent.
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Some people find ita little hard to understand,
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but that's kind of the point.He's a wheezy old guy.
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Got emphysema, shouldn't be on the sub,like the rest of them, they're all...
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It's all a last chance,the Hail Mary pass, as they say in America.
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- Yes, boss.
- Here, Peters.
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What is "no escape suits"?
What does that mean?
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No escape suits means no escape.
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If something happens,
you've only got that shitty old radio for help.
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Don't worry, banker.
We'll get you back nice and safe.
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Actually, I'm not a banker.
Are those not escape suits there?
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Diving suits.
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But, I mean, if we got into trouble,
you could use those...
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And there's Michael Smiley.Michael Smiley's a northern Irish actor who...
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I only really became aware of himwhen he was in a Brit movie called Kill List
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by Ben Wheatley.
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I went to see that,and I thought he was extraordinary.
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I just thought, "What a faceand what a fine actor."
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He's good at being sinisterbut also very, very funny.
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He's a very funny guy, he never stopscracking jokes, in fact, Michael.
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It's just such a distinctive face.
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I thought, "I have to havethat man in my movie."
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And funny enough,I went to an award ceremony,
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British Independent Film Awards.
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He was receiving the award that yearfor Kill List, for best supporting actor,
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and it's the only time I've ever done this,actually, I went up to him after the ceremony
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and said, "I have this movie,and I desperately want you to do it."
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It didn't actually, the movie didn't happen
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for a couple more years after that,but he remembered.
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And funny enough,his father had been a submariner.
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So he'd long kind of thought aboutthe life of the submariner,
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what it's like below decks, under the sea.
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So it was somethingthat he really, really enjoyed
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and got very intensely involved in.
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What 18-year-old do you know nowadays
who's a virgin?
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This not matter. They call him virgin.
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Now he's virgin.
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Unlucky.
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Well, I'm not giving in to superstition.
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Call everyone together.
It's time for them to know what's at stake.
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How much gold we talking?
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At least $40 million, maybe a lot more.
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We had a lot of debate as tohow much gold it should be.
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And of course the price of goldkept going up, and up, and up
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while we were shooting it.
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And actually since we shot it,it's come plummeting down.
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And I think, in the end,the amount of gold that they have is
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$186 million worth of gold.
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Probably not worth that much anymore,actually.
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If they'd got it in there quicklybefore the exchange rate changed,
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they might have had that much.
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40% goes to the man who's funding us.
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That's Daniels' boss.
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The rest...
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The rest is ours.
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And that's Ben Mendelsohn there, smiling.
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Ben is an Australian actorwho's been around for a long time.
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But in the last few yearsreally has come into his own,
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particularly after his performancein Animal Kingdom,
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where he played a terrifying, insecure,psychopathic character.
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He's so... He's such a livewire.
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He's never the same in any two movies.He's never the same in any two scenes.
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So full of invention and life.
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What he brings to this character,and again playing half-psychopath,
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but there is this tremendousvulnerability about him.
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And it's got sweetness at the same time.
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Easy-going sweetness and vulnerability.
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Very unexpected.
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So that is a CG sub,
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which is brilliantly done by the Union,the VFX company.
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The water is actually, that's real water.It's a real helicopter shot
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over the estuary, the Thames estuarynear where we filmed the rest of the movie.
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That's obviously green screen there.Although, again, very well done.
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You couldn't really tell.
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And these were shots that we wereoriginally going to do in the Ukraine
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on this real Ukrainian submarine,
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which we couldn't use in the endbecause of the political situation.
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So we ended up shooting this little bit here.
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This conning tower's actually in the gardensat Pinewood Studios.
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They've got some lovely old 1920s gardens.
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Just stuck the conning tower in there.It's always quite surreal, that kind of thing.
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That's now the real sub. That's the real sub.
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And now we're back in the set at Pinewood.
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One of the real challenges with theVFX shots of, you know, submarines,
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it's not below water,below water's slightly easier.
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It's above water where you've gotall that white water, water movement,
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water being one of the hardest thingsto do well in CGI.
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30 meters,
then bring it back to periscope depth.
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I always imagined what this must feel likefor these guys
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just at the moment they're going down.
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They're not even sure if this sub'sgoing to really hold water.
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But off they go, nevertheless.
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So, there we go. That's obviously a CG sub.
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Mostly CG water, little bits and piecesof real water on the lens.
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Likewise here, a completely CG shot.
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Again, completely CG water.I think that's very convincing there.
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Now that is actually in the engine roomof a real 1964 Russian submarine.
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This is Sergey Puskepalis.
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Sergey Puskepalis is a Russian actor,very well-known,
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won the Silver Bearat the Berlin Film Festival
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a few years ago, I believe,together with another actor who's in the film,
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who is called Grigory Dobrygin.
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And Grigory and Sergey were both togetherin this movie called
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How I Ended Last Summer,
which I saw at a festival and it was...
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When I went to Russia,I asked if I could see both of them.
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I ended up casting both of them againin this movie.
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Bad luck.
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Tell Zaytsev to work with Tobin
or get the fuck off my boat.
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And thus begins the kind of friction betweenthe Russian crew and the British crew.
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Tobin, come here.
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You know, I was very much aware of whatthat was like every day while filming this.
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Because the Russians, apart from Grigorywho can speak a bit of English,
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and Konstantin herecan speak a tiny bit of English,
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they really don't speak any Englishand I couldn't direct them in English,
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so I had to have a translator with meat all times.
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And the Russian method of acting,I suppose,
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is very, very different than the British one.
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They want to discuss things at great length.They want to answer every little thing.
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And I think they're used to, in Russia,
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the actor really contributingin a very, very big way
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to who his character is and mayberewriting the character every day.
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I was, in fact, told that a lot of Russian films,
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they don't start filminguntil lunchtime every day
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because the actors are discussing so much,you know, what they're going to shoot.
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Maybe a reason why a lot of Russian filmstake a long time to shoot.
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So there was definitelyan acclimatization for me
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in understanding how to getthe best out of the Russian actors.
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I had to make them feel sort of part ofthe team with the British actors.
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But we had three Russian actorsall called Sergey,
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which made it quite tricky at times.
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Three Sergeys.
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That's Grigory.
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Now Grigory, of all these actors,all the Russian actors,
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he's the one who's appeared alreadyin a couple of western films,
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and most notably, probably,
A Most Wanted Man,
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the le Carrรฉ adaptation.
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He's excellent in that.
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I think he's currently doing someother international movies, as well.
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It's so fucking unfair
that they get the same as us.
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What's funny in a lot of this iswhen the Brits are talking as though
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the Russians don't understand,
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when in fact, for the most part,they didn't understand what was going on.
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But Grigory did in real lifeand also his character, we later learn,
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does actually speak English.
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And he's just, for whatever reason,kept it to himself.
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Is that what you did, just shit in the bowl?
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I worked for about three months
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on one of those American Seawolves
in the '90s.
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- Did I tell you?
- And the food, is the food like...
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Fuck me, the food.
The food is unbelievable, mate.
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I'm talking about beef fillets.
I'm talking about broiled hams.
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Apparently this is all true.
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Submariners are obsessedwith food that they get served.
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Because, you know, it's a pretty tough life.You're underwater for often months at a time.
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And you don't even, sometimes,know where you are.
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And the food is one of the constants.
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You know, you have to give them good foodotherwise there'll be mutiny.
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Which reminds me, actually,to talk about some of the research we did
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while readying the film.
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And went to see, obviously,lots of submarines.
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We spoke to lots of submariners.
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Tried to get the story to be as realistic,as credible as possible.
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I mean, obviously there are thingswhich are probably
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scientifically improbable, inaccurate.
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Particularly to do with the diving sequences,with the, you know, pressure issues
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of going in and out of the submarinewould be
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much more complicated than we'regoing to depict them in the movie.
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But, nevertheless, we tried, both with the setand with, obviously, the dialogue
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and the situations,to be as accurate as possible.
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00:31:55,498 --> 00:32:01,045
And Jude, in particular, was really interestedin finding out about the submariners' life,
471
00:32:01,129 --> 00:32:04,340
and we managed to get himonto a Royal Navy submarine.
472
00:32:04,465 --> 00:32:08,094
I was meant to go as well,but I was too close to shooting
473
00:32:08,177 --> 00:32:09,721
and I didn't have the time to go.
474
00:32:09,804 --> 00:32:13,600
Admittedly, I was also a bit scared to gobut Jude went.
475
00:32:13,683 --> 00:32:16,644
He was not scared at all. He went on his own.
476
00:32:16,728 --> 00:32:18,771
Flew down to Gibraltar,
477
00:32:18,855 --> 00:32:21,357
got met at 5:00 in the morningat the port there,
478
00:32:21,441 --> 00:32:23,735
taken out in a boatinto the middle of the ocean
479
00:32:23,818 --> 00:32:28,406
where a British nuclear submarinerose up out of the sea
480
00:32:28,489 --> 00:32:31,951
and picked him up, and he had to clamberon board. I mean, an incredible thing.
481
00:32:32,035 --> 00:32:33,870
I remember him sayingthe first thing impression he had was,
482
00:32:33,953 --> 00:32:35,330
other than the vast size of everything,
483
00:32:35,413 --> 00:32:37,874
he got on board,it was very slippery and difficult to get on,
484
00:32:37,957 --> 00:32:39,292
opened the hatch
485
00:32:39,375 --> 00:32:46,090
and the stench of men that came out,he said, was incredible.
486
00:32:46,883 --> 00:32:48,217
There was...
487
00:32:48,801 --> 00:32:50,845
There's no showers on these things.If there are showers,
488
00:32:50,928 --> 00:32:53,056
you're not really meant to use themexcept in an emergency.
489
00:32:53,139 --> 00:32:58,895
And everyone wears the same clothesfor days, or rather weeks, if not months.
490
00:32:59,395 --> 00:33:04,275
And Jude said that for the first few hourson board he was pretty disturbed by that.
491
00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:07,153
But then, within four hours, you're used to it.
492
00:33:07,236 --> 00:33:09,822
You don't notice that your smell'smixing with their smell.
493
00:33:09,906 --> 00:33:13,618
So Jude was on this submarine for four days,had no idea where they took him.
494
00:33:13,701 --> 00:33:16,579
It was all top secret,he couldn't be told where he was going.
495
00:33:16,663 --> 00:33:22,418
And he slept in a cabin with 18 other men,in bunks.
496
00:33:22,502 --> 00:33:25,338
But they do it in a hot-beddingkind of fashion, so it's like
497
00:33:25,421 --> 00:33:28,424
your bunk isn't your bunk. It's kind of sharedby two or three other people.
498
00:33:28,508 --> 00:33:31,135
You do six hours on, six hours off,six hours on, six hours off.
499
00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:33,596
You've got no ideawhat time of day or night it is.
500
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,642
In the bunk room it's always dark,in the rest of the sub it's always light.
501
00:33:37,725 --> 00:33:40,353
So he really paid his dues, did his research.
502
00:33:40,436 --> 00:33:43,564
I remember him also telling mea sort of striking detail was that
503
00:33:43,648 --> 00:33:46,025
he wanted to go to the gym,and there was a gym on one of these things,
504
00:33:46,109 --> 00:33:50,446
but the gym is actually inthe launch silo for the nuclear missiles.
505
00:33:50,530 --> 00:33:54,701
You're sort of exercising on a bikenext to these huge nuclear missiles.
506
00:33:54,992 --> 00:33:57,203
But I think all of that research paid off,
507
00:33:57,286 --> 00:33:59,205
and in fact,Grigory did the same thing in Russia.
508
00:33:59,288 --> 00:34:03,751
He went down to Sevastopol in fact,and spent a few days on a submarine there.
509
00:34:03,835 --> 00:34:08,131
A lot of the other actorsmet with and spoke to people.
510
00:34:08,214 --> 00:34:10,800
We had a submarine advisor with uscalled Roger Whitby,
511
00:34:10,883 --> 00:34:15,054
who's somebody who's been on British subsfor several decades.
512
00:34:15,972 --> 00:34:20,727
So that was how we tried to keep thingsas accurate as possible.
513
00:34:25,690 --> 00:34:28,234
Revolutions three knots for one hour.
514
00:34:28,317 --> 00:34:29,986
Then proceed as normal.
515
00:34:55,511 --> 00:34:59,515
Jeez. That was tense.
516
00:35:01,976 --> 00:35:03,394
Tense.
517
00:35:05,021 --> 00:35:06,397
Tense.
518
00:35:08,816 --> 00:35:12,695
I love the little bits of comedythat Dennis puts in the writing.
519
00:35:14,113 --> 00:35:17,700
You know, it's a very tense thriller,
520
00:35:18,201 --> 00:35:24,791
but there's some great momentsof unexpected dark humor thrown in there.
521
00:35:24,874 --> 00:35:27,043
How can you stand it in here?
522
00:35:27,126 --> 00:35:28,127
Give it a couple of days
523
00:35:28,211 --> 00:35:30,838
and you'll be wondering
how they stand it out there.
524
00:35:32,173 --> 00:35:34,175
No, it's mad down here.
525
00:35:36,552 --> 00:35:39,472
That, obviously, is a real sub.That's the boat in...
526
00:35:39,555 --> 00:35:42,225
Because they call them boats, of course.They don't call them subs.
527
00:35:42,308 --> 00:35:43,768
We got into real troublefor calling them subs.
528
00:35:43,851 --> 00:35:48,481
No real submariner would ever call it a sub.They're called boats.
529
00:35:48,564 --> 00:35:51,692
And that's the boat in Rochester.
530
00:35:52,276 --> 00:35:54,612
That's the forward torpedo room.
531
00:35:54,987 --> 00:35:57,865
Incredible number of pipes and everythingabsolutely everywhere.
532
00:35:57,949 --> 00:36:02,453
You could never build something like that.That would be a monumental task.
533
00:36:05,998 --> 00:36:08,668
Very tricky filming in there though,as you could imagine, in that submarine.
534
00:36:08,751 --> 00:36:12,755
It was sitting in the middle of the river.We had to build a pontoon all around it,
535
00:36:12,839 --> 00:36:19,720
so that we could have a toilet, a couple ofoffices and whatever next to the submarine.
536
00:36:19,804 --> 00:36:22,723
And then, that's where the generator wasand all that kind of stuff.
537
00:36:22,807 --> 00:36:27,562
And then, on the actual submarine,there are two entrances, one at either end,
538
00:36:27,645 --> 00:36:32,817
where there were very steep steps at one end,going in the other end we just had a ladder.
539
00:36:32,984 --> 00:36:36,696
And you had to really be preparedwhen you went in there,
540
00:36:36,779 --> 00:36:39,782
you had to stay there till lunchtimeor from lunchtime until the end of the day,
541
00:36:39,866 --> 00:36:41,951
because it was such a kerfufflegoing in and out
542
00:36:42,034 --> 00:36:43,744
and getting up and down this ladder.
543
00:36:43,828 --> 00:36:47,665
And actually the hatch is just above therewhere he's going out now,
544
00:36:47,748 --> 00:36:49,375
just up in the ceiling there.
545
00:36:50,251 --> 00:36:53,921
And it was hot, and it was stuffy,
546
00:36:54,005 --> 00:36:58,134
and stank of diesel,and impossible to pass anyone
547
00:36:58,217 --> 00:37:01,804
because basically, a submarine is a corridor,it's like a long tube.
548
00:37:01,929 --> 00:37:06,559
And there's nowhereto be out of the way really,
549
00:37:06,642 --> 00:37:09,145
so you have to have the minimal crew.We often had a very tiny crew,
550
00:37:09,228 --> 00:37:11,480
just five, six people,if we could get away with it.
551
00:37:11,564 --> 00:37:16,819
No hair, makeup and art department.All those people, they had to stay elsewhere
552
00:37:17,403 --> 00:37:21,240
because there was no way we could havethem down there without getting in the way.
553
00:37:21,324 --> 00:37:23,910
Also, very difficult for Chris to light because,
554
00:37:23,993 --> 00:37:25,369
you know, we had some practical lights,
555
00:37:25,453 --> 00:37:28,414
the original lights we'd wired up,they were there.
556
00:37:28,497 --> 00:37:32,960
But there's almost nowherewhere you can hide lights in there.
557
00:37:33,044 --> 00:37:36,839
And changing anythingwas very, very, very difficult.
558
00:37:44,347 --> 00:37:46,432
We're right on top of the U-boat.
559
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:49,560
Blackie.
560
00:37:49,644 --> 00:37:51,437
Zaytsev has found the leak.
561
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,439
Needs to drain fuel line...
562
00:37:53,522 --> 00:37:55,691
One of the things about makinga submarine movie
563
00:37:55,775 --> 00:38:00,154
is that you've got this verycontained environment, obviously,
564
00:38:00,237 --> 00:38:01,530
which is difficult to film on.
565
00:38:01,614 --> 00:38:06,494
You know, there's not... There's no sunsets,there's nothing that you get for free like that.
566
00:38:06,577 --> 00:38:10,456
There's no wind in the trees,there's no landscapes, obviously.
567
00:38:10,539 --> 00:38:13,918
You're inside this machine, effectively.
568
00:38:14,001 --> 00:38:18,547
So finding ways to keep itvisually interesting is always a challenge,
569
00:38:18,631 --> 00:38:22,009
but the flip-side of that is that submarines
570
00:38:22,718 --> 00:38:26,806
make for claustrophobic,tense environments.
571
00:38:26,889 --> 00:38:33,604
So you don't need to do very muchin order to keep the whole thing tense.
572
00:38:34,313 --> 00:38:38,359
And I think that's what Dennis and Iwere really after in this film,
573
00:38:38,442 --> 00:38:43,322
was to create a slow-build thriller
574
00:38:43,406 --> 00:38:46,993
where the environment, the place,plays a crucial role.
575
00:38:51,580 --> 00:38:53,749
I bought this one fair and square.
576
00:38:56,669 --> 00:38:58,671
Actually this scene here,
577
00:38:58,754 --> 00:39:01,215
some of you might have noticedwhen you watched the film the first time,
578
00:39:01,298 --> 00:39:05,970
that actually you can tellthere's been a scene cut out.
579
00:39:06,053 --> 00:39:08,848
Earlier on, prior to them leaving port,
580
00:39:08,931 --> 00:39:13,269
there was a scene withall the sailors in a bar together,
581
00:39:13,352 --> 00:39:17,481
and we saw the beginning of the tensionbetween the Russians and the Brits.
582
00:39:17,565 --> 00:39:20,651
But itjust seemed to slow things downan awful lot, we wanted to get going,
583
00:39:20,735 --> 00:39:23,738
get on the sub, get underwater quicker,and we cut it out.
584
00:39:23,821 --> 00:39:28,868
But in that scene there was a setupto this moment of the lottery ticket.
585
00:39:29,952 --> 00:39:32,788
It's one of those things where it sort of,you know, you balance off.
586
00:39:32,872 --> 00:39:35,458
Is it going to bother peoplethat they don't know about the lottery ticket?
587
00:39:35,541 --> 00:39:36,876
That it comes out of the blue?
588
00:39:36,959 --> 00:39:41,255
Or is it better to get into the storya couple of minutes earlier?
589
00:39:41,338 --> 00:39:44,592
And hopefully we madethe right decision there. I don't know.
590
00:39:46,052 --> 00:39:48,054
We are under the fucking...
591
00:40:04,487 --> 00:40:06,864
That's the radio. You killed the fucking radio.
592
00:40:06,947 --> 00:40:08,824
- Give me the ticket.
- How we gonna...
593
00:40:10,785 --> 00:40:14,622
So, now they're really in troublebecause he's destroyed the radio.
594
00:40:14,830 --> 00:40:16,082
Of course, it's all part of the setup.
595
00:40:16,165 --> 00:40:18,000
Now they may end upat the bottom of the ocean,
596
00:40:18,084 --> 00:40:21,337
no radio, no meansof communicating with anyone.
597
00:40:23,631 --> 00:40:28,969
But also, see, the central theme of the movieis really about greed,
598
00:40:29,345 --> 00:40:33,265
and about the power of moneyto destroy people's lives.
599
00:40:33,891 --> 00:40:36,393
That comes from
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre,
600
00:40:36,477 --> 00:40:40,981
which is really one of the great booksand then films about that subject.
601
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:44,777
There's a tragedy, Dennis and I felt,
602
00:40:46,153 --> 00:40:50,699
in these characters who have so little,have been given so little by society,
603
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:54,161
but who are warped to its values, I suppose.
604
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:57,540
They want the money,even if they know it's going to destroy them.
605
00:40:57,623 --> 00:40:59,250
It's going to kill them, but they want money
606
00:40:59,333 --> 00:41:02,044
'cause that's what's going to make themfeel like real men again.
607
00:41:03,629 --> 00:41:05,589
Look, just listen to me.
608
00:41:15,641 --> 00:41:20,187
In fact, I think Dennis and I spokemany times about the idea,
609
00:41:20,271 --> 00:41:23,065
the sort of politics of this film, I suppose.
610
00:41:25,067 --> 00:41:31,824
We both saw it as being abouttwo different approaches to life.
611
00:41:31,907 --> 00:41:35,286
One is a kind of communist oneor a socialist one,
612
00:41:35,369 --> 00:41:40,624
which is embodied by Robinson in the film,who believes that everyone should share.
613
00:41:41,417 --> 00:41:43,294
And he's got this attitude through the movie,
614
00:41:43,377 --> 00:41:47,506
"We're going to give an equal shareto everybody, all crew members."
615
00:41:47,715 --> 00:41:51,093
And then, the other political opinion
616
00:41:51,177 --> 00:41:55,014
is obviously embodiedby Scoot McNairy's character,
617
00:41:55,097 --> 00:41:56,932
who is an individualist.
618
00:41:57,308 --> 00:42:02,605
He believes in the valueof every man for himself,
619
00:42:02,855 --> 00:42:04,773
every man getting his own share.
620
00:42:07,276 --> 00:42:11,614
So these two world viewsclash in the movie, I think.
621
00:42:12,114 --> 00:42:15,159
The socialist one and the individualistic one.
622
00:42:15,492 --> 00:42:16,744
And of course, slight depressingly,
623
00:42:16,827 --> 00:42:20,664
I think the individualist's oneturns out to be accurate.
624
00:42:20,748 --> 00:42:23,542
The men are incapable of sharing,they're incapable of getting on,
625
00:42:23,626 --> 00:42:27,296
which is what Robinson thinks they shouldbe able to. They should all be able to...
626
00:42:28,547 --> 00:42:31,175
Despite their language differences,the cultural differences, whatever,
627
00:42:31,258 --> 00:42:35,721
they're all just men who've beenscrewed over by the system.
628
00:42:36,388 --> 00:42:37,806
And...
629
00:42:39,099 --> 00:42:44,146
And for him, they should be ableto just get on with it.
630
00:42:44,563 --> 00:42:48,234
How Scoot McNairy's character says,
631
00:42:49,193 --> 00:42:52,988
"These men are going totear each other apart for this money."
632
00:42:53,739 --> 00:42:58,202
And it's true. So I suppose the more cynicalpoint of view on humanity wins the day.
633
00:42:58,285 --> 00:43:00,162
Zaytsev.
634
00:43:11,674 --> 00:43:14,927
So, this actually here,this scene here in the control room,
635
00:43:15,010 --> 00:43:21,058
this was one of the few times when we hadthe set put onto a big moving platform
636
00:43:21,517 --> 00:43:24,061
so that it could buck around and shift.
637
00:43:24,144 --> 00:43:26,438
It would get up to 45 degrees
638
00:43:26,522 --> 00:43:28,941
so you could have stuffflying all over the place.
639
00:43:29,024 --> 00:43:30,859
Of course, one of the interesting things isthat people said,
640
00:43:30,943 --> 00:43:34,613
"Why don't you put the whole set of the subconstantly on a platform
641
00:43:34,697 --> 00:43:37,366
"so you can move it around,and so when the sub goes down,
642
00:43:37,449 --> 00:43:39,451
"you can see the nose going downand you're..."
643
00:43:39,535 --> 00:43:41,870
But actually the truth is,when you're inside a submarine,
644
00:43:41,954 --> 00:43:45,165
like you're inside a spaceshipor a helicopter or anything like that,
645
00:43:45,499 --> 00:43:49,586
the camera is moving at the same timeas the environment that it's in
646
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:52,089
because the camera man's feet are,obviously, on the floor.
647
00:43:52,172 --> 00:43:56,218
So you don't really register that movement.And so it's a strange thing.
648
00:43:56,302 --> 00:43:59,805
There's actually very little pointin having that movement in the set
649
00:43:59,888 --> 00:44:01,432
when you're inside it.
650
00:44:01,515 --> 00:44:05,644
It's always better to replicate the movementby moving the camera on its own.
651
00:44:05,728 --> 00:44:09,315
But the reason that we decidedto shift the set around in that sequence
652
00:44:09,398 --> 00:44:12,818
and a couple of othersis just so that things can fly around.
653
00:44:12,901 --> 00:44:16,739
So you get bits of paper, tins,stuff hanging from the ceilings,
654
00:44:16,822 --> 00:44:18,615
you get all of that moving.
655
00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:22,995
Chrissy.
656
00:44:38,844 --> 00:44:41,597
So, the sub's sittingon the bottom of the ocean.
657
00:44:43,057 --> 00:44:46,769
Everything's over. That's the engine.A bit dark there, that shot, isn't it?
658
00:44:46,852 --> 00:44:49,271
But, you know, it's the engine destroyed.
659
00:44:52,149 --> 00:44:56,570
Those previous shots werea combination of real submarine,
660
00:44:56,653 --> 00:44:59,114
and this is the real submarine,real submarine and set.
661
00:44:59,198 --> 00:45:03,869
So this is, again, by a torpedo room.At the end there, those are the torpedo tubes.
662
00:45:07,414 --> 00:45:11,627
Here's Jude covered in blood,thinking about his wife.
663
00:45:12,961 --> 00:45:15,547
And Jodie Whittaker,wonderful Jodie Whittaker,
664
00:45:15,631 --> 00:45:20,344
who came and did a couple of days for us,very sweetly, a very small part.
665
00:45:23,180 --> 00:45:26,266
She's obviously been great in many things,
Venus, particularly.
666
00:45:26,350 --> 00:45:28,060
It was one of her first roles, I think.
667
00:45:28,143 --> 00:45:31,980
Recently, big star in Broadchurch,
the TV show.
668
00:45:34,483 --> 00:45:35,901
And here we're gonna see...
669
00:45:38,153 --> 00:45:43,033
We're gonna see a couple ofreally good bits of prosthetic, burn makeup.
670
00:45:45,828 --> 00:45:49,081
So, here's Konstantin here,
671
00:45:49,915 --> 00:45:54,002
wearing kind of a rubber maskcovered in burn makeup.
672
00:45:54,336 --> 00:45:59,091
And he had to lie there for several hours,I remember, wearing that,
673
00:45:59,174 --> 00:46:02,010
and he absolutely hated it.
674
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:07,224
This shot, I suppose, encapsulateswhat we wanted the film to be about.
675
00:46:07,307 --> 00:46:08,767
You know, you're stuck on the bottom,
676
00:46:08,851 --> 00:46:11,103
the submarine's sittingon the bottom of the sea,
677
00:46:11,186 --> 00:46:13,397
and you're thinking,"How the hell am I gonna get out of here?
678
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,943
"I shouldn't be here. Human beingsshouldn't be down in the ocean like this.
679
00:46:18,026 --> 00:46:22,072
"But how am I going to usemy human ingenuity to get out of here?"
680
00:46:24,283 --> 00:46:27,703
Main drive shaft's fucked,
shattered in the explosion.
681
00:46:28,537 --> 00:46:30,289
Ballast tanks are ruptured.
682
00:46:30,372 --> 00:46:32,749
And I reckon we've got
about 36 hours left in the batteries
683
00:46:32,833 --> 00:46:34,293
before we go dark.
684
00:46:35,377 --> 00:46:37,880
Looks like the Russians
have got almost all the water
685
00:46:37,963 --> 00:46:39,798
up the other end of the boat.
686
00:46:39,882 --> 00:46:42,092
We've got the food. They're gonna want that.
687
00:46:42,217 --> 00:46:44,970
- And they're gonna want us gone.
- Quiet, you.
688
00:46:45,888 --> 00:46:48,432
- Fucking animal.
- You've killed us all, Fraser.
689
00:46:48,557 --> 00:46:51,602
You've killed the fucking lot of us. Fuck.
690
00:46:55,314 --> 00:46:58,358
It's interesting,Ben Mendelsohn's character here.
691
00:46:58,859 --> 00:47:00,861
I was saying, he's a sort of psychopath,
692
00:47:00,944 --> 00:47:03,697
but he's someonewho's also enormously vulnerable.
693
00:47:03,780 --> 00:47:09,286
And I think what we were trying to dois to find a balance between those two,
694
00:47:10,078 --> 00:47:12,539
those two character aspects,
695
00:47:13,248 --> 00:47:16,251
and I think Ben doesa very, very good job of it.
696
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,880
You need to feel thatthrough the course of the movie
697
00:47:20,881 --> 00:47:23,967
he becomes sorry for what he's done
698
00:47:24,510 --> 00:47:28,096
and reallyjust wants to live,like everybody else.
699
00:47:28,347 --> 00:47:33,936
But ironically, in wanting to live, he's got tocause the destruction of everybody.
700
00:47:42,236 --> 00:47:46,031
So, this is the electric engine roomof the real Russian submarine,
701
00:47:46,114 --> 00:47:49,618
all these beautiful,shimmering surfaces here.
702
00:47:54,456 --> 00:47:56,083
I'm not armed.
703
00:48:10,138 --> 00:48:11,557
What are you saying?
704
00:48:13,058 --> 00:48:14,476
You speak English?
705
00:48:14,935 --> 00:48:16,562
Why didn't you say anything before?
706
00:48:16,895 --> 00:48:20,399
As I said, Grigory,he's a well-known actor in Russia,
707
00:48:20,732 --> 00:48:24,236
he's a bit of a heartthrob I think,very good-looking young man,
708
00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:27,030
and, you know, in some big hitcommercial movies there.
709
00:48:27,114 --> 00:48:30,158
I asked him to grow the beardso he looked more like a submariner
710
00:48:30,242 --> 00:48:34,371
'cause he's a little too fresh-faced without it.
711
00:48:34,997 --> 00:48:37,541
But he still looks pretty good.
712
00:48:37,708 --> 00:48:40,586
And he spoke pretty good English,
713
00:48:40,794 --> 00:48:43,880
although he struggledwith some of the technical terminology.
714
00:48:44,047 --> 00:48:47,634
Some of the words, especially in this scene,
715
00:48:47,718 --> 00:48:51,847
a lot of them are pretty tricky things to say.
716
00:48:52,723 --> 00:48:57,269
Talking about ridges and depthand all that kind of stuff.
717
00:48:57,352 --> 00:48:58,562
No decay.
718
00:48:58,645 --> 00:48:59,938
Pressure.
719
00:49:00,022 --> 00:49:02,441
There's perfectly preserved
Roman galleons out there.
720
00:49:02,524 --> 00:49:05,277
Look, when we get in there,
we'll get the drive shaft,
721
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,654
we'll machine it
and then we'll put it into the engine.
722
00:49:07,738 --> 00:49:10,157
And we get this boat off the seabed.
723
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:14,286
This boat is dead. We not sail it or get back.
724
00:49:14,369 --> 00:49:15,537
We're not gonna sail it.
725
00:49:16,872 --> 00:49:22,419
We can really underestimate how difficultit is to perform in a foreign language.
726
00:49:23,587 --> 00:49:29,051
We've all seen films where the directordoesn't understand the language
727
00:49:29,134 --> 00:49:31,678
of the actors he's working withor the other way around.
728
00:49:31,762 --> 00:49:33,972
There's something usuallyvery peculiar about that,
729
00:49:34,056 --> 00:49:36,642
something thatjust doesn't work.
730
00:49:36,725 --> 00:49:39,269
Sonar's broken.
We don't even know which way she's lying.
731
00:49:39,353 --> 00:49:42,648
I think these guys all pulled it off,to my mind anyway.
732
00:49:42,731 --> 00:49:44,483
The Russians who have seen the movieseem to agree,
733
00:49:44,566 --> 00:49:46,568
from the other way around it still works.
734
00:49:47,110 --> 00:49:49,237
They wanna kill everyone.
They go crazy now.
735
00:49:50,238 --> 00:49:53,784
We have to have Baba and Zaytsev.
736
00:49:53,867 --> 00:49:54,951
And Fraser.
737
00:49:55,994 --> 00:49:57,913
What he did is not forgotten.
738
00:49:59,915 --> 00:50:03,251
But we have to have everyone
to get this boat up.
739
00:50:03,335 --> 00:50:05,921
What's amazing aboutJude's performance here
740
00:50:06,004 --> 00:50:10,092
is that there's such strengthand masculinity and solidity to it.
741
00:50:11,093 --> 00:50:14,513
And it's not the Jude Lawwe're used to seeing, you know,
742
00:50:14,596 --> 00:50:19,101
who is often somebodywho plays light, comedic roles
743
00:50:19,184 --> 00:50:21,895
or romantic roles and those kind of things.
744
00:50:21,978 --> 00:50:27,025
One of the things Jude didwas he lowered the pitch of his voice.
745
00:50:27,859 --> 00:50:31,613
And changed his physique,you can see the size of his back there.
746
00:50:31,697 --> 00:50:36,910
He built up his back particularly,so that he had a kind of sailor's physique,
747
00:50:36,993 --> 00:50:38,787
the big forearms, the big back.
748
00:50:40,288 --> 00:50:43,125
Had a little bit of aging makeup on, as well.
749
00:50:44,042 --> 00:50:46,962
Just to accentuate the lines around his eyes.
750
00:50:47,379 --> 00:50:48,880
Add a few years onto him,
751
00:50:48,964 --> 00:50:53,301
make him sit better inamongst all these other working men.
752
00:50:54,344 --> 00:50:56,138
I've got him.
753
00:50:59,433 --> 00:51:04,604
That's the real torpedo tube, one of thereal torpedo tubes on the Russian sub.
754
00:51:04,688 --> 00:51:08,775
That's a pretty horrible thing, nobodywanted to go in there and be locked in.
755
00:51:09,401 --> 00:51:12,946
Just in case somebody pushed thewrong button and it flooded with sea water,
756
00:51:13,029 --> 00:51:16,950
or we couldn't open it up again.You can imagine, quite terrifying.
757
00:51:38,889 --> 00:51:43,435
Here comes Ben. You know,he's full of shame, he's great at doing that.
758
00:51:43,810 --> 00:51:49,816
That sense of being a kicked dog,ashamed of what he's done.
759
00:51:51,026 --> 00:51:55,071
Not able to almost look anyone in the eye,kind of whimpering in the corner, almost.
760
00:51:55,155 --> 00:51:56,198
- Ready?
- Ready.
761
00:51:59,201 --> 00:52:01,661
Now, this sequence
762
00:52:03,121 --> 00:52:05,999
is an invention of Dennis'.
763
00:52:06,541 --> 00:52:08,919
We did look in to see whether or notit was actually possible.
764
00:52:09,002 --> 00:52:13,381
Could you do this kind of homemade sonar?
765
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:17,969
Would it really work?
766
00:52:18,053 --> 00:52:21,473
Could you bang against the sideof something and then hear the echoes?
767
00:52:21,556 --> 00:52:25,685
I think most people we spoke tosaid it was pretty farfetched.
768
00:52:25,769 --> 00:52:27,312
I think there is some basis in truth.
769
00:52:27,395 --> 00:52:30,023
You could probably get a little bit
770
00:52:30,732 --> 00:52:36,655
of a sense of any big featuresin the landscape around you,
771
00:52:36,738 --> 00:52:39,157
but really, it's a writer's invention.
772
00:52:39,908 --> 00:52:40,992
But a good one.
773
00:52:41,076 --> 00:52:42,118
Go.
774
00:52:55,298 --> 00:52:57,300
- Stop.
- Stop.
775
00:53:02,472 --> 00:53:06,560
This other Sergy here,this is another Russian Sergy,
776
00:53:07,102 --> 00:53:10,564
he came up with this drawing,which was his imagination,
777
00:53:10,647 --> 00:53:14,192
his imagining of what he would belistening to and what he would be...
778
00:53:14,276 --> 00:53:16,528
How he would map it out.
779
00:53:21,616 --> 00:53:26,329
And in this scene here,there's another bit of Russian invention.
780
00:53:27,205 --> 00:53:29,416
Sergey Puskepalis here.
781
00:53:33,044 --> 00:53:36,047
He came up with this line here about,
782
00:53:36,965 --> 00:53:39,759
"When I get out, I'm going to eat your liver."
783
00:53:40,135 --> 00:53:43,430
He came up with it in rehearsal,we thought it was great, the idea that
784
00:53:44,014 --> 00:53:47,017
he's going to say, "I'm going to kill youwhen we get out of here.
785
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:48,852
"I'm going to eat your liver."
786
00:53:48,935 --> 00:53:55,275
But that Ben Mendelsohn's character Fraserthinks that actually he's being friendly
787
00:53:55,358 --> 00:53:57,485
'cause the line's been delivered with a smile.
788
00:53:57,569 --> 00:54:02,616
And, I suppose, it encapsulates themisunderstandings between the characters.
789
00:54:02,824 --> 00:54:07,120
Yeah, but, you know, years ago.
I mean, fucking hell, look at me.
790
00:54:07,203 --> 00:54:09,456
Peters, I'll look after you.
791
00:54:11,166 --> 00:54:13,251
I promise I'll look after you.
792
00:54:19,090 --> 00:54:20,926
So, what's he saying?
793
00:54:21,968 --> 00:54:25,472
Baba thinks there is something
rising up from the seabed
794
00:54:25,555 --> 00:54:30,060
about 100 meters away,
maybe 40 meters wide.
795
00:54:30,185 --> 00:54:34,856
The rise could be the U-boat, putting us here.
796
00:54:36,024 --> 00:54:38,151
100 meters from the U-boat.
797
00:54:38,234 --> 00:54:41,029
That's close enough. We can reach that.
798
00:54:41,363 --> 00:54:45,992
Or what he's seen is a small hill,
which means we are here,
799
00:54:48,203 --> 00:54:49,496
on the other ridge.
800
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,750
So, obviously the idea of the Black Sea
801
00:54:54,709 --> 00:54:57,712
being anoxic is truthful.
802
00:54:57,796 --> 00:55:01,925
The Black Sea is actually anoxicbelow, I think it's, 200 meters.
803
00:55:02,175 --> 00:55:04,010
That means that there's no oxygen,
804
00:55:04,094 --> 00:55:05,845
and because there's no oxygenthere's no decay,
805
00:55:05,929 --> 00:55:09,724
which means that there are "perfectlypreserved Roman galleons down there, "
806
00:55:09,808 --> 00:55:11,851
as Jude's character says.
807
00:55:12,227 --> 00:55:13,645
Can't do it with two.
808
00:55:14,104 --> 00:55:17,524
It's also true that the Black Seais enormously deep.
809
00:55:17,607 --> 00:55:23,488
And so there are many, many wrecks,including wrecks that are 2,000 years old.
810
00:55:23,571 --> 00:55:25,365
There's a famous Phoenician wreck, I think,
811
00:55:25,448 --> 00:55:28,827
which has still got its mastto about six or seven meters.
812
00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:33,331
And it's... The mast is still standing therebecause there's nothing rotting it,
813
00:55:33,707 --> 00:55:36,918
and it's just sitting thereon the bottom of the ocean.
814
00:55:38,044 --> 00:55:40,714
So I think it was the knowledge of that
815
00:55:40,797 --> 00:55:44,175
which gave Dennis the initial ideaof setting this in the Black Sea.
816
00:55:44,843 --> 00:55:46,261
Stick with Fraser.
817
00:55:46,761 --> 00:55:48,430
Out there...
818
00:55:48,513 --> 00:55:49,889
But as I said before,
819
00:55:49,973 --> 00:55:54,436
the diving sequence is probablythe least credible part of the movie,
820
00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:59,691
in that in reality they wouldhave been able to get out probably,
821
00:55:59,774 --> 00:56:04,029
but they wouldn't have been ableto then come straight back into the boat
822
00:56:04,112 --> 00:56:05,905
because they would have got the bends.
823
00:56:05,989 --> 00:56:10,368
Because inside,the boat is still at surface pressure.
824
00:56:12,162 --> 00:56:15,874
And they're going intomuch, much, much greater pressure
825
00:56:15,957 --> 00:56:18,543
when they go outside the sub.
826
00:56:18,626 --> 00:56:21,880
If they're down,it's like 190 meters or something.
827
00:56:23,339 --> 00:56:26,593
So, this is all filmedat the Pinewood Studios.
828
00:56:26,676 --> 00:56:28,053
This big sequence underwater,
829
00:56:28,136 --> 00:56:32,640
it's filmed in the tank there,which is a tank where many, many
830
00:56:33,475 --> 00:56:37,312
great films, commercialsand photo-shoots and things are done,
831
00:56:37,812 --> 00:56:39,814
but it's surprisingly small.
832
00:56:39,898 --> 00:56:45,236
It is only 30 meters long,I think about 15 meters wide,
833
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,489
and I think maybe 8 meters deep.
834
00:56:47,572 --> 00:56:52,368
So all of the sequencesare kind of pieced together from...
835
00:56:52,452 --> 00:56:53,703
So, that shot there, for instance,
836
00:56:53,787 --> 00:56:57,415
the background is obviously CGIthe foreground is real.
837
00:56:57,499 --> 00:56:59,292
This here is a real jump.
838
00:56:59,375 --> 00:57:01,252
You know they're just belowthe surface of the water,
839
00:57:01,336 --> 00:57:05,840
they're jumping off a model.That is a combination of CGI and a real jump.
840
00:57:06,341 --> 00:57:11,137
So, we had little composite bits of sets,we had a bit of U-boat set,
841
00:57:11,221 --> 00:57:17,936
we had a bit of the Russian sub set,and we had a little bit of ridge set.
842
00:57:18,019 --> 00:57:19,395
Just jump.
843
00:57:20,355 --> 00:57:25,235
And then, in between,we had lots of flat, sandy surface,
844
00:57:25,318 --> 00:57:28,238
muddy surface with a few rocksand that kind of thing.
845
00:57:28,613 --> 00:57:31,616
Really the idea wasif we kept it nice and dark,
846
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,662
you're not going to knowthat you're in quite a small environment.
847
00:57:35,745 --> 00:57:39,791
And with the use of CG in a few shots,you get the sense of space.
848
00:57:39,874 --> 00:57:41,584
Take breaths.
849
00:57:41,918 --> 00:57:45,213
Now, you're safe with me.
I've never lost a man out here.
850
00:57:45,296 --> 00:57:47,966
All right? Good. Let's go.
851
00:57:48,424 --> 00:57:51,928
And automatically,as you're filming in any of these tanks,
852
00:57:52,554 --> 00:57:55,557
the water very quickly,during the course of the day, gets murky
853
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,976
because of all the air bubblesthe divers give off.
854
00:57:58,059 --> 00:58:00,812
Because sometimes we used,you can see the little particles there.
855
00:58:00,895 --> 00:58:06,901
Sometimes we put little particles intothe water to just murky it up a little bit.
856
00:58:07,235 --> 00:58:12,073
If you do that at the beginning of the day,very soon
857
00:58:14,242 --> 00:58:16,703
you end up with murky water.
858
00:58:17,579 --> 00:58:19,747
So all of this, for instance,this is very murky here.
859
00:58:19,831 --> 00:58:22,333
This was probably filmedat the end of the day.
860
00:58:23,042 --> 00:58:26,087
And you really can't seemore than about 10 feet.
861
00:58:26,254 --> 00:58:28,506
Right, that's the light on.
862
00:58:28,715 --> 00:58:33,261
That there on the left would bea bit of real sub set, that's real sub set.
863
00:58:34,429 --> 00:58:36,514
Stop fucking wheezing...
864
00:58:36,598 --> 00:58:42,437
And it's probably not reallyhad to be expanded very much in the film.
865
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:47,192
Might be a little bit of CGI off to the left there,but not actually very much.
866
00:58:49,611 --> 00:58:55,283
None of the three actors who areplaying the divers had ever dived before.
867
00:58:55,366 --> 00:58:56,784
Good luck, lads.
868
00:58:57,869 --> 00:59:04,626
Particularly not wearing these very weighty,uncomfortable, professional diving kits.
869
00:59:05,293 --> 00:59:08,755
The helmets weigh an absolute ton.When you put them on on dry land
870
00:59:08,838 --> 00:59:10,965
it's enormously uncomfortable.
871
00:59:11,633 --> 00:59:14,802
But when you get into the water,I understand, I didn't actually do it myself,
872
00:59:14,886 --> 00:59:19,390
they obviously feel a lot lighterand it's relatively comfortable.
873
00:59:20,975 --> 00:59:22,227
What's the seabed like?
874
00:59:22,310 --> 00:59:25,396
It took a long time to get into them,and once you're in it
875
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,232
you're not really getting out for a few hours.
876
00:59:27,315 --> 00:59:31,945
So the actors would go down therefor a couple of hours, maybe, at a time.
877
00:59:32,028 --> 00:59:34,155
It was pretty tough for them.
878
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,033
And they all did brilliantly.
879
00:59:37,116 --> 00:59:41,079
It was particularly tough for Benwho likes a cigarette, and he couldn't.
880
00:59:41,162 --> 00:59:42,538
Obviously, once you're in that helmet,
881
00:59:42,622 --> 00:59:45,333
you're not going to get outand have a cigarette anytime soon.
882
00:59:45,416 --> 00:59:48,544
So required quite a lot of patience.
883
00:59:48,628 --> 00:59:53,216
And very difficult to directbecause you can't really talk to them.
884
00:59:53,299 --> 00:59:56,177
You can talk to them a little, little bitwhen you're...
885
00:59:56,261 --> 00:59:59,764
So, that's the set there, by the way.That's the little bit of ridge set
886
01:00:00,765 --> 01:00:02,976
extended the background with CGI.
887
01:00:03,059 --> 01:00:04,769
You can't really talk to them much
888
01:00:04,852 --> 01:00:10,066
because you're talking througha kind of microphone
889
01:00:10,149 --> 01:00:11,609
thatjust echoes around the whole...
890
01:00:11,693 --> 01:00:14,404
It's not individually to the divers,it echoes around the whole pool.
891
01:00:14,487 --> 01:00:18,866
So other people are talking, other noises,they're breathing, they can't hear,
892
01:00:18,992 --> 01:00:22,287
and you can only see what they're doing,obviously, through the camera.
893
01:00:22,370 --> 01:00:26,165
So it's surprisingly slow and...
894
01:00:26,249 --> 01:00:30,295
I mean, not surprisingly,but it is very slow and very tricky.
895
01:00:30,378 --> 01:00:36,301
Now, a lot of these shots are a combination,a lot of these sequences are a combination
896
01:00:36,384 --> 01:00:39,679
of the actors and doubles,
897
01:00:39,762 --> 01:00:41,472
who were some of the professional divers
898
01:00:41,556 --> 01:00:45,518
who work at the diving servicesup at Pinewood Studios.
899
01:00:45,601 --> 01:00:49,105
So within one little sequence,you'll see shots which are
900
01:00:50,356 --> 01:00:55,778
the real actor. So this I think is the real actor.Yes, this is David Threlfall. There he is.
901
01:00:56,571 --> 01:00:58,323
Although the wide shotmay not have been him,
902
01:00:58,406 --> 01:01:00,241
mayjust be close-ups of him.I can't actually remember.
903
01:01:00,325 --> 01:01:03,828
So this here, for instance,this shot here would be doubles.
904
01:01:05,413 --> 01:01:07,498
And the doubles tended to do things first,
905
01:01:07,582 --> 01:01:10,710
and then the real actorswould have to copy that.
906
01:01:10,793 --> 01:01:14,589
It meant that they could watchwhat was going on and then copy it.
907
01:01:15,631 --> 01:01:17,508
So this, now that's an interesting shot.
908
01:01:17,592 --> 01:01:22,680
That's one of the last shots in the filmthat's left from the terrible disaster we had
909
01:01:22,764 --> 01:01:28,102
while making this movie actually,was that we made the bottom a little bit...
910
01:01:28,561 --> 01:01:30,688
The bottom of the tank a little bit soft
911
01:01:30,772 --> 01:01:33,441
'cause we wanted to have the feelingof them sinking into the mud.
912
01:01:33,524 --> 01:01:36,986
But we made it soft by putting foam down,
913
01:01:37,070 --> 01:01:40,782
like a memory foam down on the bottomand then put sand on top of it.
914
01:01:40,865 --> 01:01:46,788
Now, little did we knowthat the memory foam had bromine in it.
915
01:01:47,622 --> 01:01:50,875
Bromine is very closely related to chlorine,which is in a pool,
916
01:01:50,958 --> 01:01:55,797
and in fact, in a chemical reaction,replaces it,
917
01:01:56,923 --> 01:02:01,677
and so what we ended up withwas a swimming pool with no chlorine in it,
918
01:02:01,761 --> 01:02:08,267
or a tank rather with no chlorine in it,but with bromine in it, and the bromine was
919
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:12,313
a kind of bright, soda-colored green,
920
01:02:14,482 --> 01:02:16,442
like a limeade green.
921
01:02:16,526 --> 01:02:18,945
And so we came in one dayafter we'd been shooting for a week.
922
01:02:19,028 --> 01:02:21,739
We'd shot for two weeks down in the tank,and we came in
923
01:02:21,823 --> 01:02:23,825
and all the tank was bright green.
924
01:02:23,908 --> 01:02:26,828
And nobody could believe it.We were all stunned.
925
01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:30,498
I've found it. It's here.
926
01:02:30,581 --> 01:02:32,125
- What?
- It's fucking here!
927
01:02:32,208 --> 01:02:34,085
I've found it, Robinson.
928
01:02:34,168 --> 01:02:38,714
I think it's about 1.2 million liters of water.So we tried all sorts of stuff.
929
01:02:38,798 --> 01:02:43,594
We tried to clean it upby adding different chemicals.
930
01:02:43,678 --> 01:02:46,514
We got the swimming pool experts in,all sorts of people in.
931
01:02:49,934 --> 01:02:52,437
And this is a great CG shot here,
932
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,440
when you first see the U-boatsitting on the ridge.
933
01:02:55,523 --> 01:02:57,900
But anyway, so what we ended uphaving to do
934
01:02:57,984 --> 01:03:00,486
was actually close the film downfor a couple of weeks.
935
01:03:00,570 --> 01:03:02,864
We had to empty the entire tank.
936
01:03:03,698 --> 01:03:07,326
In fact, we emptied it into the outdoor tank,which at that moment was being filmed on
937
01:03:07,410 --> 01:03:10,163
by Ridley Scottwho was shooting Exodus there,
938
01:03:10,246 --> 01:03:12,874
and he was filming the Nile turning red.
939
01:03:12,957 --> 01:03:17,044
And little did he know that we were pouringgreen water into his supposedly red Nile.
940
01:03:18,546 --> 01:03:23,509
But we then had to refill the tank, clean it,refill it and start again.
941
01:03:23,593 --> 01:03:26,637
So, for us on the production,
942
01:03:26,721 --> 01:03:29,932
that was probably our biggest headacheof the whole time.
943
01:03:30,016 --> 01:03:32,393
Gives you a new respect for chemistry.
944
01:03:35,396 --> 01:03:39,775
So, here we are inside the U-boat.This was an amazing set that Nick built.
945
01:03:40,276 --> 01:03:43,571
Shot in it for one day, amazingly.
946
01:03:44,155 --> 01:03:45,907
It was quite a tight scheduleon this whole film,
947
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:47,825
and we had one day to shoot in here.
948
01:03:47,909 --> 01:03:52,121
We did a couple of little pick-upson tiny bits of the set or that kind of thing.
949
01:03:52,914 --> 01:03:55,333
The rest of this was all filmed on a day.
950
01:04:00,421 --> 01:04:04,759
And I think it's incredibly spooky down here.
951
01:04:06,260 --> 01:04:11,307
And, of course, you imagine that ourcharacters are looking at these skeletons
952
01:04:11,390 --> 01:04:15,436
and thinking, "God, what happened to themmight happen to us, too.
953
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,563
"We may end up eating each other.
954
01:04:17,647 --> 01:04:21,442
"We may end up having the same fateas these people had."
955
01:04:21,567 --> 01:04:23,569
- What?
- Cannibalism.
956
01:04:24,445 --> 01:04:25,821
Jesus.
957
01:04:27,031 --> 01:04:29,784
Hey, let's get what we came here for.
Come on.
958
01:04:52,473 --> 01:04:58,521
It is actually true that the design of theRussian subs, up until the mid-'60s or so,
959
01:04:58,604 --> 01:05:02,149
was based on the U-boat design,and actually at the end of the war,
960
01:05:02,233 --> 01:05:05,736
Stalin ordered the Russian military
961
01:05:06,612 --> 01:05:11,993
to take the bits and box up and send back toRussia all sorts of German Nazi technology,
962
01:05:12,076 --> 01:05:14,495
including submarines.
963
01:05:14,662 --> 01:05:19,125
So it is actually...What we have here in the script,
964
01:05:19,667 --> 01:05:23,921
they're getting a piece of machineryout of this old U-boat,
965
01:05:24,005 --> 01:05:27,091
and going to try and put itinto their own boat to fix it,
966
01:05:27,174 --> 01:05:30,511
is not without the bounds of credibility.
967
01:05:34,432 --> 01:05:37,518
Oh, my fucking fuck.
968
01:05:38,978 --> 01:05:40,855
There's the gold.
969
01:05:42,231 --> 01:05:44,567
We had a lot of debate about the gold.
970
01:05:44,650 --> 01:05:47,028
How heavy it should beand what it should look like.
971
01:05:50,281 --> 01:05:51,991
There's...
972
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:58,623
It turns out there's no absoluteregulation size of gold bar.
973
01:05:58,706 --> 01:06:01,208
- Are you there?
- Fraser.
974
01:06:01,542 --> 01:06:03,377
Obviously, we wanted them to feelas heavy as possible
975
01:06:03,461 --> 01:06:06,297
so we did make a certain number out of lead.
976
01:06:06,380 --> 01:06:09,175
So that when you see the actorslifting the gold bars,
977
01:06:09,258 --> 01:06:13,638
it's always the lead ones they're lifting,so they are pretty damn heavy.
978
01:06:13,721 --> 01:06:16,724
Although, from memory, I think that
979
01:06:17,558 --> 01:06:21,687
a lead bar of that sizewould weigh about 9 kilograms,
980
01:06:21,771 --> 01:06:24,815
but a gold bar of that sizewould weigh almost 13,
981
01:06:24,899 --> 01:06:27,443
so it's a third more.
982
01:06:27,902 --> 01:06:33,324
So it really makes you realizehow incredibly heavy gold is,
983
01:06:33,407 --> 01:06:34,492
and how difficult it is to move.
984
01:06:34,575 --> 01:06:36,786
Although, of course,once they get it into the water,
985
01:06:36,869 --> 01:06:39,413
like they do here,it becomes an awful lot easier.
986
01:06:46,170 --> 01:06:47,421
It's not moving.
987
01:06:54,428 --> 01:06:55,721
Come on.
988
01:06:57,139 --> 01:06:58,516
It won't budge.
989
01:06:59,016 --> 01:07:02,603
We spent so long in that tankwith that trolley,
990
01:07:02,687 --> 01:07:05,606
pushing things backwards and forwards.
991
01:07:07,274 --> 01:07:11,320
Getting it stuck in the sand,pushing it for real.
992
01:07:12,488 --> 01:07:13,989
It was at least two or three days,
993
01:07:14,073 --> 01:07:19,245
sometimes with the doubles, sometimeswith the real actors for the close-ups.
994
01:07:23,249 --> 01:07:26,877
This pulley, obviously,is being operated just by hand,
995
01:07:26,961 --> 01:07:30,798
somebody behind there pulling it.
996
01:07:31,424 --> 01:07:33,300
And then here, it's on a winch.
997
01:07:35,803 --> 01:07:38,889
What's going on? Why is it so heavy?
998
01:07:42,727 --> 01:07:44,437
They've got the gold.
999
01:07:51,068 --> 01:07:52,611
It's too heavy.
1000
01:07:54,405 --> 01:07:57,074
- It's what we came here for.
- I'm serious.
1001
01:07:59,493 --> 01:08:01,454
We have to at least try and bring it in.
1002
01:08:01,912 --> 01:08:04,373
Robinson. Robinson.
1003
01:08:04,874 --> 01:08:07,543
So, this is the big moment of decisionfor Robinson here.
1004
01:08:09,253 --> 01:08:12,298
Whether to do the sensible thingand just get the engine part
1005
01:08:12,381 --> 01:08:15,801
or whether to get the gold.
1006
01:08:15,885 --> 01:08:17,052
And in a way, I suppose, it's about
1007
01:08:17,136 --> 01:08:19,930
is life going to be worth livingif he goes back poor?
1008
01:08:20,556 --> 01:08:23,476
You know, he gives a coupleof these speeches in the movie, doesn't he,
1009
01:08:23,559 --> 01:08:26,353
about how exploited he feels,
1010
01:08:26,854 --> 01:08:29,023
how exploited they all are
1011
01:08:31,358 --> 01:08:33,861
by the powers that be, by the bankers.
1012
01:08:34,445 --> 01:08:37,448
And I suppose he's speaking aboutsentiments that a lot of people feel,
1013
01:08:37,531 --> 01:08:40,159
particularly since the 2008 crash.
1014
01:08:42,244 --> 01:08:48,793
The working people have been exploited,have been given a short straw.
1015
01:08:51,045 --> 01:08:56,425
Live in a world where the only valuethat's important to a lot of people is money.
1016
01:08:56,717 --> 01:08:58,928
So if you don't have money, you're nobody.
1017
01:08:59,011 --> 01:09:01,639
And he doesn't want to go home as nobody,he doesn't feel he wants to be...
1018
01:09:01,722 --> 01:09:03,724
Doesn't want to face up to his son,
1019
01:09:03,808 --> 01:09:06,936
obviously, until he's somebody,until he's got some money.
1020
01:09:07,019 --> 01:09:09,063
And, I guess, that's Robinson's tragedy.
1021
01:09:09,146 --> 01:09:12,233
He doesn't realizeuntil the very end of the movie
1022
01:09:12,316 --> 01:09:15,486
that it probably didn't matter for his sonif his father wasn't rich.
1023
01:09:15,569 --> 01:09:19,281
It didn't matter very much anyway,not compared with not having a father.
1024
01:09:19,365 --> 01:09:21,450
Look, it's getting around. Stay with me.
1025
01:09:27,915 --> 01:09:30,626
Drag it this way.
Come on, harder, harder. Come on.
1026
01:09:31,627 --> 01:09:34,505
It's hard to recognize in the film here,
1027
01:09:34,588 --> 01:09:40,427
but actually that cliff thereis only about, I think, eight or nine feet high.
1028
01:09:42,888 --> 01:09:47,893
But because there's justblack cloth spread out below,
1029
01:09:47,977 --> 01:09:51,897
it sort of disappears into darkness,and you buy it, you buy it as a cliff.
1030
01:09:51,981 --> 01:09:56,318
There's only a couple of shotswhere we've extended it digitally,
1031
01:09:56,402 --> 01:09:57,820
so it looks like it's much longer.
1032
01:09:57,903 --> 01:10:01,866
Obviously, the one that's coming up now,which is where
1033
01:10:01,949 --> 01:10:05,452
the character Peters falls over the cliff.
1034
01:10:06,453 --> 01:10:09,582
Get this under here. Roll it on there.
1035
01:10:11,625 --> 01:10:13,961
Keep it steady. Steady.
1036
01:10:14,086 --> 01:10:15,671
Peters, be careful.
1037
01:10:16,714 --> 01:10:21,218
In reality, of course,what's about to happen here
1038
01:10:21,844 --> 01:10:26,181
with the air pipe,the oxygen pipe being severed,
1039
01:10:28,100 --> 01:10:32,021
is actually very hard to do'cause those pipes are pretty tough.
1040
01:10:32,146 --> 01:10:34,815
It's possible, but it's very hard to do.
1041
01:10:34,899 --> 01:10:37,902
Of course, the terrible thing ishe's falling down there, disappearing.
1042
01:10:37,985 --> 01:10:40,821
There's CG cliff, you can see itdisappearing off down there.
1043
01:10:41,822 --> 01:10:46,619
But actually, he would go on livingprobably for about half an hour down there
1044
01:10:46,702 --> 01:10:49,288
'cause they have these little bail-out bottles,they have bottles of oxygen
1045
01:10:49,371 --> 01:10:51,916
which they can switch on in an emergency.
1046
01:10:52,499 --> 01:10:54,668
So we did think of making somethingof that in the movie,
1047
01:10:54,752 --> 01:10:57,463
this idea that he's still down there,they still see bubbles coming up,
1048
01:10:57,546 --> 01:10:59,381
but it was a bit too confusing for people.
1049
01:10:59,465 --> 01:11:01,008
So it's just sitting out there.
1050
01:11:01,258 --> 01:11:06,055
Poor Fraser now, he's been responsiblefor the second death,
1051
01:11:07,932 --> 01:11:10,142
and he really feels bad about it.
1052
01:11:10,225 --> 01:11:12,311
And it's going to kind of changewho he is, I suppose,
1053
01:11:12,394 --> 01:11:15,606
because he now thinks he's jinxed,I think, doesn't he?
1054
01:11:16,273 --> 01:11:17,983
He thinks he's jinxed, he thinks he's a Jonah.
1055
01:11:18,067 --> 01:11:20,778
It's millions of dollars in gold.
1056
01:11:21,362 --> 01:11:22,905
So what?
1057
01:11:22,988 --> 01:11:25,449
What are you gonna do, take it up
and explain it to the Russian navy?
1058
01:11:25,532 --> 01:11:27,284
You want to just leave it in the mud?
1059
01:11:27,368 --> 01:11:29,453
Yes, that's exactly what I want.
1060
01:11:29,536 --> 01:11:32,998
So, Chris Ross here, who's the DP,
1061
01:11:33,749 --> 01:11:36,627
has very colorful lighting that's going on.
1062
01:11:36,710 --> 01:11:38,587
Obviously there's an excuse given to thatby a submarine.
1063
01:11:38,671 --> 01:11:40,589
Submarines do havethese red lights everywhere.
1064
01:11:40,881 --> 01:11:42,174
And it's often a mix.
1065
01:11:42,257 --> 01:11:46,136
Most of the corridors are oftena mix of red lights and white lights.
1066
01:11:46,220 --> 01:11:48,681
White lights are all switched offand the red lights are all switched on
1067
01:11:48,764 --> 01:11:53,227
when there's an emergencyor when everyone's got to be silent.
1068
01:11:53,727 --> 01:11:58,983
Often also, in a lot of submarines,the red lights are switched on at night
1069
01:11:59,692 --> 01:12:01,360
so that when...
1070
01:12:01,443 --> 01:12:05,656
If, for instance, you had tosuddenly go up at nighttime,
1071
01:12:05,739 --> 01:12:08,701
that you wouldn't getsuch a shock, supposedly.
1072
01:12:08,784 --> 01:12:11,662
Wouldn't get such a shock with the daylight.
1073
01:12:12,329 --> 01:12:15,624
No, no. Look, I am not...
1074
01:12:16,542 --> 01:12:19,586
I need to talk to you alone.
1075
01:12:19,670 --> 01:12:20,838
Now.
1076
01:12:27,177 --> 01:12:28,554
Right, okay.
1077
01:12:28,971 --> 01:12:32,266
This is actually a setand you can see at the back there,
1078
01:12:32,349 --> 01:12:36,979
it was actually one of the few timeswhere there's just a painted backdrop.
1079
01:12:37,104 --> 01:12:38,605
Looks like there's a door there at the back.
1080
01:12:38,689 --> 01:12:41,066
If you look carefully,you can see in that corridor shot
1081
01:12:41,150 --> 01:12:45,362
that it's actuallyjust a painted backdrop,there's nothing else there.
1082
01:12:45,612 --> 01:12:48,782
That was because this corridor on set,
1083
01:12:49,491 --> 01:12:51,744
we had to move itand shoot it somewhere else
1084
01:12:51,827 --> 01:12:54,371
for various logistical reasonsin another studio.
1085
01:12:54,455 --> 01:12:58,375
So we didn't have the remainder of the set,all we had was the corridor.
1086
01:12:58,459 --> 01:13:01,336
So we just had to havethis painted backdrop.
1087
01:13:01,420 --> 01:13:02,880
Hopefully nobody notices that.
1088
01:13:02,963 --> 01:13:04,048
Lewis is just some actor
1089
01:13:04,131 --> 01:13:05,966
who thought the whole thing
was a team-building exercise.
1090
01:13:06,050 --> 01:13:09,303
Look, there is no Lewis, okay?
Agora set you up.
1091
01:13:09,762 --> 01:13:12,347
Why do you think they fired you?
1092
01:13:12,431 --> 01:13:16,435
The moment you surface,
they'll perform an arrest under maritime law.
1093
01:13:16,852 --> 01:13:19,563
They've already done a deal
with the Georgians.
1094
01:13:19,646 --> 01:13:21,231
They just needed...
1095
01:13:21,315 --> 01:13:26,361
And, of course, this whole back storyabout the Georgians and the Abkhazia
1096
01:13:26,987 --> 01:13:31,617
and the annexation by Russia,that's all actually historical.
1097
01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:35,329
Again, Dennis has done a very craftyjob.
1098
01:13:35,412 --> 01:13:41,335
The Russians did actually annex Abkhazia,which is part of Georgia, northern Georgia.
1099
01:13:41,418 --> 01:13:46,965
It did change the boundaries of ownershipof parts of the Black Sea.
1100
01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:52,596
Our fictional story kind of fits in wellwith actually
1101
01:13:52,679 --> 01:13:56,183
the reality, the geopolitical realityof what's going on.
1102
01:14:01,396 --> 01:14:03,107
He's a boy.
1103
01:14:03,190 --> 01:14:04,566
Okay.
1104
01:14:05,651 --> 01:14:09,029
I always think herethat Jude's character, that Robinson...
1105
01:14:09,113 --> 01:14:11,281
I feel so sorry for him at this moment.
1106
01:14:12,116 --> 01:14:14,993
He's given everything,he's risked everybody's lives,
1107
01:14:15,077 --> 01:14:16,787
men have died,
1108
01:14:17,871 --> 01:14:21,375
and it turns out he's just been tricked.
1109
01:14:21,834 --> 01:14:25,087
And I think one of the motivatorsfor Robinson is that he's somebody who,
1110
01:14:25,170 --> 01:14:27,631
his whole life feels likehe's been given the short straw.
1111
01:14:27,714 --> 01:14:31,426
He's been tricked, he's been fooled,he's been screwed over,
1112
01:14:32,886 --> 01:14:36,890
and now, just when he thought thathe was gonna get the better of everyone,
1113
01:14:36,974 --> 01:14:38,892
just when he thought that he could
1114
01:14:40,435 --> 01:14:46,233
exercise his own will and be a leader himself,
1115
01:14:46,942 --> 01:14:50,028
it turns out that he's just been tricked.
1116
01:14:50,112 --> 01:14:53,323
He's just been fooled,so you can imagine what that must feel like.
1117
01:14:53,407 --> 01:14:56,243
And that's what drives him from now, I think,until the end of the movie,
1118
01:14:56,326 --> 01:15:00,080
is this sense thathe's not going to be fooled again.
1119
01:15:00,164 --> 01:15:04,293
He's not going to be tricked again.He's not going to be anybody's patsy again.
1120
01:15:04,376 --> 01:15:05,919
Baba, calm him down.
1121
01:15:07,254 --> 01:15:09,756
Get the fuck out of our way, Robinson.
1122
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,593
He needs to die
and he needs to fucking die now.
1123
01:15:12,676 --> 01:15:14,219
And then what?
1124
01:15:14,761 --> 01:15:18,140
We go up? We hand the gold over?
1125
01:15:18,265 --> 01:15:19,933
They're waiting for us.
1126
01:15:20,017 --> 01:15:22,436
This is also where I think he,
1127
01:15:22,519 --> 01:15:27,399
Robinson's character, kind of tips overinto the beginnings of madness here.
1128
01:15:30,194 --> 01:15:32,237
He's just coming up with another plan.
1129
01:15:32,321 --> 01:15:35,324
He's refusing to admit defeat.He can't be defeated.
1130
01:15:35,824 --> 01:15:42,748
He really is willing to get everybody killedrather than admitting defeat.
1131
01:15:43,290 --> 01:15:46,710
So, slowly from this moment onwards,I think you can kind of see him
1132
01:15:46,793 --> 01:15:50,339
become more and more and more crazy.
1133
01:15:52,049 --> 01:15:53,425
More and more irrational.
1134
01:15:53,508 --> 01:15:55,636
We can't surface
'cause the fucking navy's probably up there.
1135
01:15:55,719 --> 01:15:57,304
We won't make it.
1136
01:15:57,387 --> 01:15:59,723
- How long? How long to take us round?
- 12 or 14 hours.
1137
01:15:59,806 --> 01:16:01,767
- 12 or 14 hours. Tell them.
- They'll track us.
1138
01:16:01,850 --> 01:16:04,311
They're waiting.
They're not just gonna let us go.
1139
01:16:04,394 --> 01:16:09,775
The Turks have a naval base in Trabzon,
20 miles up the coast.
1140
01:16:09,858 --> 01:16:12,069
They're not gonna sail
into the Turkish navy, are they?
1141
01:16:12,152 --> 01:16:13,528
Fuck this.
1142
01:16:14,363 --> 01:16:15,906
Fuck this shit.
1143
01:16:17,115 --> 01:16:19,743
Now, I'm gonna fucking kill him
and I'm gonna do it now.
1144
01:16:19,826 --> 01:16:23,747
All right, you can do that.
You can kill him, you can do that.
1145
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:25,082
And we can go up.
1146
01:16:25,165 --> 01:16:28,794
So, here's Jude's second big speechabout injustice,
1147
01:16:28,877 --> 01:16:32,631
about being dogshit on the banker's shoes.
1148
01:16:34,299 --> 01:16:38,720
And now it's become a reallyunhealthy kind of obsession, I think.
1149
01:16:40,639 --> 01:16:43,517
People who get filth like us to do their work.
1150
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,561
We spoke to Jude about,it sounds a bit pretentious,
1151
01:16:46,645 --> 01:16:49,314
the kind of Shakespearean elementto this character.
1152
01:16:49,398 --> 01:16:55,362
Jude was preparing a performanceof Henry V, Shakespeare's Henry V
1153
01:16:56,363 --> 01:16:58,740
at the same time as we were shooting,
1154
01:16:58,824 --> 01:17:00,158
and a couple of monthsafter we finished shooting,
1155
01:17:00,242 --> 01:17:02,160
he put it on in the West End to great reviews.
1156
01:17:03,161 --> 01:17:07,416
But there are definitely character similarities,I think. You know, Henry V is about
1157
01:17:08,542 --> 01:17:12,254
a young prince becoming a king,about somebody growing up
1158
01:17:13,046 --> 01:17:15,382
and having to be taken seriously.
1159
01:17:16,383 --> 01:17:19,261
And I think that's so similar reallyto what Robinson's going through.
1160
01:17:19,344 --> 01:17:22,848
Robinson is somebody who's neverbeen the leader in his life before,
1161
01:17:22,931 --> 01:17:26,810
and now he's having to be the leader,
1162
01:17:26,893 --> 01:17:29,062
convince the men around himthat he can do it,
1163
01:17:29,146 --> 01:17:31,940
that he can lead them to victory, as it were.
1164
01:17:45,495 --> 01:17:49,583
And I think those speeches of Jude'shave got a little bit of that quality in them,
1165
01:17:49,666 --> 01:17:51,918
that he's inspiring the men
1166
01:17:52,002 --> 01:17:56,048
in the same way as Henry Vjust beforethey go into battle against the French.
1167
01:17:56,131 --> 01:17:59,343
He's inspiring the men to go onwardsand to do their best.
1168
01:17:59,426 --> 01:18:01,303
There's a kind of rhetoric to it.
1169
01:18:04,806 --> 01:18:05,932
I like this moment.
1170
01:18:06,016 --> 01:18:09,061
That was actually Grigory who came upwith that little idea. He wanted to...
1171
01:18:09,144 --> 01:18:12,522
People think he kisses the gold,but actually what he's doing is he's tasting it.
1172
01:18:12,606 --> 01:18:15,734
He was obsessed with that."What does it taste like?
1173
01:18:15,817 --> 01:18:17,778
"What does gold taste like?"
1174
01:18:17,861 --> 01:18:19,571
He almost wanted to ingest it.
1175
01:18:33,460 --> 01:18:38,382
This precious way that he treats the goldis a little bit like it's a baby.
1176
01:18:49,393 --> 01:18:51,144
4.3 tons.
1177
01:18:53,772 --> 01:18:55,482
This is 4.3 tons.
1178
01:18:55,607 --> 01:18:57,901
This is when we kept havingto change our calculations
1179
01:18:57,984 --> 01:19:00,320
because the gold pricewas constantly fluctuating.
1180
01:19:00,404 --> 01:19:01,780
Normally going up.
1181
01:19:24,261 --> 01:19:27,597
Strange thing for Robinson, of course,is that it's about the money
1182
01:19:27,681 --> 01:19:30,100
but it's not about the money for him.
1183
01:19:30,183 --> 01:19:33,478
For everyone else, you get the sensethat it is about the money,
1184
01:19:34,020 --> 01:19:37,816
or certainly about self-respect,but I think for Robinson it's all about
1185
01:19:38,567 --> 01:19:42,988
this mistaken idea that that's what's going toget his wife and his kid back, I think, isn't it?
1186
01:19:44,114 --> 01:19:47,534
That's what he's seeing therewhen he sees the money.
1187
01:19:47,659 --> 01:19:52,873
I love this expression that he does here,this kind of emptying out of himself there.
1188
01:19:52,956 --> 01:19:56,168
What he does at that moment,there's a kind of relief
1189
01:19:57,294 --> 01:20:00,755
and a love for the gold that's all tied upwith love for his family.
1190
01:20:00,839 --> 01:20:03,216
I think that's a beautifulbit of performance there.
1191
01:20:10,140 --> 01:20:11,725
Time to go to work, banker.
1192
01:20:21,151 --> 01:20:24,404
Fraser, here's your glamorous assistant.
1193
01:20:30,744 --> 01:20:34,331
Now, when he tells you, pour this into here.
1194
01:20:34,414 --> 01:20:35,749
You understand?
1195
01:20:36,583 --> 01:20:38,668
Fraser, listen to me.
1196
01:20:38,752 --> 01:20:41,922
We had a lot of discussionabout the kind of reality
1197
01:20:42,005 --> 01:20:43,840
of what's gone wrong with the engine?
1198
01:20:43,924 --> 01:20:45,842
What is he doingwhen he's pouring that in there?
1199
01:20:45,926 --> 01:20:48,178
It's obviously meant to besome kind of lubricant
1200
01:20:48,261 --> 01:20:52,766
because the driveshaftis not quite fitting correctly.
1201
01:20:52,849 --> 01:20:55,519
It's rubbing, it's heating up.
1202
01:20:55,602 --> 01:20:59,314
It needs the lubricant all the time andthe coolant to stop anything going wrong.
1203
01:20:59,856 --> 01:21:01,650
It wasn't your fault.
1204
01:21:03,068 --> 01:21:05,487
We shouldn't have brought
that gold on board.
1205
01:21:05,570 --> 01:21:07,781
I think it's affecting your judgment, skipper.
1206
01:21:13,662 --> 01:21:15,705
And that's the moment there
1207
01:21:15,789 --> 01:21:19,292
when Scoot's characterrealizes that he can exploit
1208
01:21:20,502 --> 01:21:21,878
Ben Mendelsohn's character.
1209
01:21:21,962 --> 01:21:23,380
Stop looking at me.
1210
01:21:23,713 --> 01:21:25,799
Look, you know he's not right.
1211
01:21:27,467 --> 01:21:31,304
And they've realizedthat Jude's character Robinson
1212
01:21:32,806 --> 01:21:35,517
has kind of gone off the deep end a little bit.
1213
01:21:36,643 --> 01:21:39,354
Keep your eye on me and do exactly as I do.
1214
01:21:44,484 --> 01:21:45,986
I should say something about the music.
1215
01:21:46,069 --> 01:21:47,904
There's this lovely theme coming in now,
1216
01:21:47,988 --> 01:21:50,740
this really powerful piece of musicthat's about to happen
1217
01:21:50,824 --> 01:21:53,034
as they lift off in the submarine.
1218
01:21:53,118 --> 01:21:55,620
The music's done by Ilan Eshkeri,
1219
01:21:56,246 --> 01:21:59,416
who's done many, many films.
1220
01:21:59,499 --> 01:22:04,713
Some films with Matthew Vaughn,films with Ralph Fiennes.
1221
01:22:06,506 --> 01:22:10,510
Some animated films even.He's currently doing an animated movie.
1222
01:22:10,677 --> 01:22:14,472
He's got a great sense of storytellingand drama.
1223
01:22:14,556 --> 01:22:17,142
I think that's one of his great qualitiesas a composer.
1224
01:22:17,642 --> 01:22:20,812
He really understandswhat a scene is trying to say,
1225
01:22:20,895 --> 01:22:25,275
and he tries to either support thator play against it or whatever the intention is.
1226
01:22:25,358 --> 01:22:29,070
But it's a rare thing to find, in my opinion,a composer who really
1227
01:22:29,154 --> 01:22:33,867
understands the structure of the scenes
1228
01:22:33,950 --> 01:22:36,828
and knows what the musicought to be doing,
1229
01:22:36,911 --> 01:22:38,580
how it ought to be contributing.
1230
01:22:39,664 --> 01:22:41,374
He really has that.
1231
01:22:52,260 --> 01:22:54,554
Revs for five knots.
1232
01:22:56,389 --> 01:22:58,099
Midships to rudder.
1233
01:22:58,808 --> 01:23:00,018
Ten up.
1234
01:23:06,566 --> 01:23:07,734
Ten up.
1235
01:23:19,579 --> 01:23:23,083
That CG shot there was probablythe hardest shot to get right.
1236
01:23:23,166 --> 01:23:24,668
I'm not sure we even got it right in the end.
1237
01:23:24,751 --> 01:23:31,508
It's a very hard shot with the subtletyof looking down the side of the submarine,
1238
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,930
but seeing the sand vibrating.
1239
01:23:38,014 --> 01:23:40,767
Very, very tricky to get that correct.
1240
01:23:41,518 --> 01:23:45,438
In fact, one of the big debateswe had throughout about these CG shots
1241
01:23:46,856 --> 01:23:48,233
was how to get...
1242
01:23:49,067 --> 01:23:52,821
How to see enough of the submarinebut have the water murky enough
1243
01:23:52,904 --> 01:23:54,322
so it seemed believable.
1244
01:23:55,448 --> 01:23:59,452
And it's always a combinationof playing off between the murkiness
1245
01:24:00,578 --> 01:24:04,416
and seeing enoughto make the film feel big and epic
1246
01:24:04,499 --> 01:24:06,918
and as though you weren't beingcompletely cheated.
1247
01:24:08,086 --> 01:24:10,171
- 80.
- Is the engine holding?
1248
01:24:11,715 --> 01:24:15,969
In reality, of course,the Black Sea would be pretty murky.
1249
01:24:18,054 --> 01:24:20,640
- Batteries good.
- 70.
1250
01:24:22,058 --> 01:24:24,310
- 65.
- Check all vents and closures.
1251
01:24:24,394 --> 01:24:25,645
I want to know if the rudder's holding.
1252
01:24:27,313 --> 01:24:28,648
Rudder's holding, boss.
1253
01:24:30,483 --> 01:24:32,235
- 60.
- Hold her there.
1254
01:24:33,987 --> 01:24:35,572
At 60 meters.
1255
01:24:38,450 --> 01:24:39,617
Holding.
1256
01:24:49,002 --> 01:24:52,630
And at this moment, you really do believethey're gonna get away with it, don't you?
1257
01:24:54,507 --> 01:24:57,552
You really do think that they've done it.
1258
01:24:58,803 --> 01:25:01,347
And there they are leaving the U-boat behind.
1259
01:25:03,349 --> 01:25:06,519
But have they taken something with themother than the gold?
1260
01:25:13,777 --> 01:25:16,237
I guess what they've taken with them is
1261
01:25:17,447 --> 01:25:19,824
the kind of evilinherent in Scott McNairy's character.
1262
01:25:19,908 --> 01:25:23,411
He can't help butjust think about himself.He can't help butjust think,
1263
01:25:23,495 --> 01:25:26,080
"I need to save my own skin.We need to go up. We need to go up.
1264
01:25:26,164 --> 01:25:28,583
"I don't care about anything else.I need to go up."
1265
01:25:28,666 --> 01:25:30,794
Everybody else is tryingto work together as a team,
1266
01:25:30,877 --> 01:25:35,298
trying to be a unit,and he's going to disrupt that unity
1267
01:25:36,382 --> 01:25:40,094
by what he does withBen Mendelsohn's character Fraser.
1268
01:25:48,353 --> 01:25:51,856
Sergy Veksler, that's him there,he's the sonar operator.
1269
01:25:52,607 --> 01:25:53,858
Wonderful face.
1270
01:25:59,697 --> 01:26:04,077
Very few lines of dialogue,but makes a huge impression in the film
1271
01:26:05,245 --> 01:26:09,624
with what he's doing.It really feels like he knows what he's doing,
1272
01:26:11,125 --> 01:26:14,087
even though in reality,he probably had a half-hour lesson
1273
01:26:14,170 --> 01:26:16,840
in how to be a sonar operator.
1274
01:26:18,299 --> 01:26:22,637
We, of course, all watched a lot of movieswhile we were preparing for this.
1275
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,139
We watched a lot of submarine movies.
1276
01:26:25,223 --> 01:26:28,685
My particular favorites, the ones that I guessinfluenced the way that I did the film,
1277
01:26:28,768 --> 01:26:33,314
was Das Boot, the famous German filmfrom the early '80s
1278
01:26:33,398 --> 01:26:37,861
about a U-boat crew,which is a miraculously good movie.
1279
01:26:37,944 --> 01:26:42,532
Very realistic portrayalof what life is like on board a U-boat.
1280
01:26:43,533 --> 01:26:45,910
There's another movie called
Run Silent Run Deep
1281
01:26:45,994 --> 01:26:49,789
that's got Clark Gable in oneof his last performances in it, actually.
1282
01:26:49,873 --> 01:26:51,958
Which like this film, in a way,
1283
01:26:52,041 --> 01:26:53,668
although it's setduring the Second World War,
1284
01:26:53,751 --> 01:26:56,963
it's a story of obsessionand of destructive obsession.
1285
01:26:57,046 --> 01:26:59,507
So there were certain similarities I saw there.
1286
01:26:59,591 --> 01:27:02,343
The captain in that movie,played by Clark Gable,
1287
01:27:02,427 --> 01:27:07,223
becomes obsessedwith destroying a Japanese destroyer
1288
01:27:07,307 --> 01:27:10,560
which has blown up his previous submarine,and now he's on the hunt for it.
1289
01:27:10,643 --> 01:27:11,978
Again, it's a bit like Moby Dick.
1290
01:27:12,061 --> 01:27:14,397
A lot of submarine filmsare really quite like Moby Dick.
1291
01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:18,484
They're all about, you know,somebody goes a bit crazy on them.
1292
01:27:18,568 --> 01:27:22,447
Somebody goes a bit Captain Ahaband there's an obsession.
1293
01:27:23,114 --> 01:27:24,908
Why that is, I don't know.
1294
01:27:24,991 --> 01:27:28,077
That story seems to come uptime and time again in sub movies.
1295
01:27:28,202 --> 01:27:31,873
There's definitely a little bit of Captain Ahabin Jude, I think.
1296
01:27:31,956 --> 01:27:35,168
Particularly here,in these scenes around here.
1297
01:27:35,251 --> 01:27:36,377
What's that?
1298
01:27:37,128 --> 01:27:38,296
Canyon.
1299
01:27:40,506 --> 01:27:42,091
Can Baba get us through that?
1300
01:27:42,175 --> 01:27:44,552
Robinson, it's 100 meters wide, maybe less.
1301
01:27:44,636 --> 01:27:47,013
- How long to go through it?
- Forty minutes, one hour.
1302
01:27:47,096 --> 01:27:49,515
But we cannot go through that.
1303
01:27:50,016 --> 01:27:51,684
Another movie we looked at,
1304
01:27:51,768 --> 01:27:54,187
I showed to all the crew, actually,and all the cast,
1305
01:27:54,312 --> 01:27:56,940
we sat down together and watched it,
1306
01:27:57,023 --> 01:27:59,609
is a movie by William Friedkinwhich is called Sorcerer,
1307
01:27:59,692 --> 01:28:04,781
which is a remake from 1974 or 1975,I believe,
1308
01:28:04,864 --> 01:28:09,869
of The Wages of Fear, the Clouzot filmI mentioned earlier on in the commentary.
1309
01:28:11,996 --> 01:28:14,624
At the time, it was not a big success.
1310
01:28:14,707 --> 01:28:19,212
Friedkin made itjust after he'd made
The Exorcist and The French Connection,
1311
01:28:19,295 --> 01:28:22,173
so he was the biggest director in the worldat that time.
1312
01:28:22,256 --> 01:28:25,134
He was hugeand this was his passion project.
1313
01:28:25,218 --> 01:28:28,304
What he wanted to do was to makean American remake of The Wages of Fear.
1314
01:28:28,388 --> 01:28:32,850
And he had Roy Scheider in it,later on obviously seen in Jaws.
1315
01:28:33,226 --> 01:28:36,479
And it doesn't really work as a movie.
1316
01:28:36,562 --> 01:28:38,356
The first half of the movie doesn't work,it has to be said,
1317
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,234
but the second half is absolutely brilliant.
1318
01:28:42,735 --> 01:28:47,031
The texture of it,the feel of these desperate working men
1319
01:28:47,115 --> 01:28:48,741
in that moviewas something I wanted to capture.
1320
01:28:48,825 --> 01:28:51,703
So I showed it to the actors,showed it to the crew.
1321
01:28:51,786 --> 01:28:55,790
And that was probablythe biggest single influence on the texture
1322
01:28:55,873 --> 01:28:57,166
of the movie.
1323
01:29:05,758 --> 01:29:07,260
What happened?
1324
01:29:10,179 --> 01:29:11,681
Are we going up?
1325
01:29:18,021 --> 01:29:22,066
And I love this point here in the filmwhere everybody is,
1326
01:29:22,150 --> 01:29:26,154
having followed Jude so far,they've followed Robinson so far,
1327
01:29:26,738 --> 01:29:29,949
trusted him, relied on him,they're now thinking...
1328
01:29:30,033 --> 01:29:32,869
Look at that face. That's a great face therefrom Bobby Schofield.
1329
01:29:32,952 --> 01:29:37,373
But having got this far,they're suddenly beginning to think,
1330
01:29:37,457 --> 01:29:39,959
"Oh, my God. He's a lunatic.
1331
01:29:40,668 --> 01:29:43,004
"He's a lunatic.We shouldn't be following him."
1332
01:29:45,965 --> 01:29:48,760
Mass 110 meters starboard.
1333
01:29:48,843 --> 01:29:53,473
And he's taking them right into this canyon,he's taking them into somewhere which...
1334
01:29:53,765 --> 01:29:55,975
You're going blind in a submarine.
1335
01:29:56,059 --> 01:30:00,938
That's the extraordinary thing.You never really know where you are.
1336
01:30:01,022 --> 01:30:02,899
You can't see outside.
1337
01:30:03,316 --> 01:30:08,696
All you have is your charts and your sonar.
1338
01:30:09,864 --> 01:30:11,991
And in this case,they don't even have sonar.
1339
01:30:12,075 --> 01:30:15,411
They're actually relying on the echofrom the engine.
1340
01:30:15,495 --> 01:30:19,457
Again, a little bit of a fiction.I don't think that's actually feasible.
1341
01:30:20,750 --> 01:30:23,753
But we're saying that he'sthe best sonar operator in the world,
1342
01:30:23,836 --> 01:30:25,671
so maybe it is feasible.
1343
01:30:29,342 --> 01:30:30,343
We're in.
1344
01:30:34,806 --> 01:30:39,143
I just think all these faces noware just wonderful, so expressive.
1345
01:30:39,227 --> 01:30:40,603
Just hold her steady.
1346
01:30:44,774 --> 01:30:49,320
And I suppose, I think in my mind,I think they probably would get through this
1347
01:30:49,403 --> 01:30:52,907
if it weren't for Scoot's character here
1348
01:30:53,866 --> 01:30:56,202
being the little worm in the apple.
1349
01:30:58,329 --> 01:31:00,206
I think they might actuallyget through the canyon.
1350
01:31:00,289 --> 01:31:04,210
They might actually succeed.
1351
01:31:05,711 --> 01:31:07,380
But again, it's the individualist,
1352
01:31:07,463 --> 01:31:09,715
it's the guy who's gotthe different point of view,
1353
01:31:09,841 --> 01:31:14,262
the cynical point of view of human naturethat's going to do them all down.
1354
01:31:23,563 --> 01:31:26,858
A lot of debate. You see therethe little bits of flotsam and jetsam
1355
01:31:26,941 --> 01:31:29,068
floating in the water there.
1356
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,988
Little bits of seaweed and stuff,we had a lot...
1357
01:31:32,071 --> 01:31:35,074
Making the CG,one of the biggest debates we had was,
1358
01:31:35,158 --> 01:31:37,785
"How much of that kind of, notjust murk,
1359
01:31:37,869 --> 01:31:40,413
"but seaweed bits and piecesdo you want to have in there?"
1360
01:31:40,496 --> 01:31:45,334
Too much and it's distracting,but too little and it feels just too clean.
1361
01:31:45,418 --> 01:31:49,005
A surprisingly difficult thing to get right,to get the feel of.
1362
01:31:49,088 --> 01:31:50,756
60 meters port.
1363
01:31:51,132 --> 01:31:52,842
Rising slightly below.
1364
01:31:54,135 --> 01:31:57,513
Trim 80 gallons aft to forward.
1365
01:32:03,769 --> 01:32:04,896
80 gallons.
1366
01:32:05,938 --> 01:32:07,440
Come on.
1367
01:32:09,525 --> 01:32:10,985
Come on.
1368
01:32:13,821 --> 01:32:18,326
Fraser, he has lost his mind.
We need to go up.
1369
01:32:19,452 --> 01:32:21,412
Think about Peters.
1370
01:32:21,495 --> 01:32:23,915
It doesn't need to happen to anyone else.
1371
01:32:51,609 --> 01:32:53,486
Ben's just got such an interesting face,isn't it?
1372
01:32:53,569 --> 01:32:56,072
There's always something going on in there.
1373
01:32:56,155 --> 01:32:57,573
There's a lot going on in his head,
1374
01:32:57,657 --> 01:33:01,327
so I guess there's a lot going onin his face as well.
1375
01:33:01,410 --> 01:33:04,163
And you can kind of read itin any way you like.
1376
01:33:05,331 --> 01:33:07,083
It's very ambiguous.
1377
01:33:25,059 --> 01:33:26,644
Fuck that!
1378
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,188
Fuck you, you fucker!
1379
01:33:31,357 --> 01:33:33,776
- Reynolds.
- We're okay. We're in one piece.
1380
01:33:33,859 --> 01:33:36,362
- But, Jesus Christ, Robinson.
- How long before we're through?
1381
01:33:36,445 --> 01:33:39,156
- We're not gonna fucking make this.
- Not you.
1382
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,243
- Morozov, how long?
- 20, 30 minutes.
1383
01:33:45,037 --> 01:33:47,748
We need to come starboard two degrees.
1384
01:33:57,466 --> 01:33:59,844
And I love, again, Ben here.
1385
01:34:01,137 --> 01:34:03,180
He doesn't want to kill.
1386
01:34:03,264 --> 01:34:05,891
It's kind of like it's his fate somehow.He knows it's his fate.
1387
01:34:05,975 --> 01:34:07,226
He's killed these other two people.
1388
01:34:07,310 --> 01:34:12,648
One in a fit of anger, a fit of pique,and the next one by accident.
1389
01:34:13,232 --> 01:34:16,402
But he feels responsible,and now it's like he can't help himself.
1390
01:34:16,485 --> 01:34:19,947
He can't help but kill this other person.He doesn't want to,
1391
01:34:21,741 --> 01:34:24,493
but he somehow knows it's his fate.
1392
01:34:25,870 --> 01:34:27,121
And I think that's...
1393
01:34:27,204 --> 01:34:31,250
I love the way that Ben does thatin this character. It's very subtle. It's very...
1394
01:34:32,251 --> 01:34:35,838
In some ways, quite psychologically hardto follow, I suppose,
1395
01:34:36,005 --> 01:34:39,258
but, for me, it's a great performance.
1396
01:34:39,425 --> 01:34:41,719
Here. It's started going up.
1397
01:34:44,472 --> 01:34:47,433
See? See that?
1398
01:34:54,482 --> 01:34:57,985
And immediately he regrets it,and immediately he's
1399
01:34:59,695 --> 01:35:03,616
looking at Scoot and blaming him.
1400
01:35:05,284 --> 01:35:06,869
It's tragic.
1401
01:35:13,334 --> 01:35:14,585
Shit.
1402
01:35:25,179 --> 01:35:26,263
Zaytsev.
1403
01:35:26,347 --> 01:35:28,349
And whatever they've done,
1404
01:35:28,974 --> 01:35:31,143
whatever buttons they've pushed,
1405
01:35:32,228 --> 01:35:36,649
they've done something that's going toterminally destroy the sub.
1406
01:35:36,732 --> 01:35:39,568
He smashed his head on the engine
when we hit something and he went flying.
1407
01:35:39,652 --> 01:35:40,903
And they don't even know it.
1408
01:35:40,986 --> 01:35:43,656
- What have you done?
- What do you mean? We didn't do anything.
1409
01:35:43,739 --> 01:35:46,075
- What the fuck have you done?
- We didn't do anything.
1410
01:35:46,158 --> 01:35:48,452
- It was an accident.
- Fraser, you killed Zaytsev?
1411
01:35:48,536 --> 01:35:49,995
What are you talking about?
It was a fucking accident.
1412
01:35:50,079 --> 01:35:52,456
Sweet Jesus, we're fucked.
You killed fucking Zaytsev?
1413
01:35:52,540 --> 01:35:56,544
These scenes are actually some of theharder scenes in the movie to direct
1414
01:35:56,627 --> 01:35:58,921
because there's so much shouting.
1415
01:35:59,004 --> 01:36:04,176
And you're trying to createa sense of fear and of panic,
1416
01:36:04,301 --> 01:36:08,681
but shouting on its own is, you know,very boring very quickly.
1417
01:36:09,348 --> 01:36:14,103
You very quickly lose patience with peoplewho are just shouting at each other.
1418
01:36:14,186 --> 01:36:20,609
Trying to modulate the tone,trying to make it feel convincingly panicked,
1419
01:36:20,693 --> 01:36:27,199
but without overdoing the yelling andSturm und Drang is one of the harder things.
1420
01:36:38,419 --> 01:36:40,463
- Back to your posts, everyone.
- Robinson, it's over.
1421
01:36:40,546 --> 01:36:43,048
I'll tell you when it's fucking over!
1422
01:36:43,257 --> 01:36:46,886
I think Jude there is incredible.You know, it's really like
1423
01:36:47,553 --> 01:36:51,432
the top's come off. It's all just flooding out.
1424
01:36:52,141 --> 01:36:53,893
- Three...
- We need him, Robinson.
1425
01:36:53,976 --> 01:36:55,644
We lose another man, we can't even go up.
1426
01:36:55,728 --> 01:36:59,231
- Two...
- He's right. He's right, Robinson. Yeah.
1427
01:37:00,065 --> 01:37:04,403
And, of course, it's the boy, again,who's the surrogate for his son...
1428
01:37:04,695 --> 01:37:05,905
Can we just live?
1429
01:37:06,030 --> 01:37:08,073
... who speaks the truth to him.
1430
01:37:17,791 --> 01:37:20,002
- Robinson, what's happening?
- We're going down.
1431
01:37:20,085 --> 01:37:25,758
And here, again, we've got the seton the gimbal, the moveable platform.
1432
01:37:27,301 --> 01:37:30,179
So you actually have to have the...
1433
01:37:30,262 --> 01:37:36,352
In order to get the sense of the movement,you have to have the camera itself
1434
01:37:36,435 --> 01:37:41,190
on a different system so that it's alwaysautomatically righting to the horizon.
1435
01:37:42,024 --> 01:37:45,819
Otherwise, of course, if the camera'sjust being handheld or on a tripod,
1436
01:37:45,903 --> 01:37:50,824
it goes at the same time as the setand it looks like you're not moving.
1437
01:37:50,908 --> 01:37:55,037
And it's the most extraordinary thing,so, again, the thing that's making you
1438
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:58,916
feel like this has really tipped overis their body movement,
1439
01:37:58,999 --> 01:38:03,128
whatever they're clutching on, like that,and the paper flying,
1440
01:38:03,587 --> 01:38:07,091
and the fact that the camerais being held in a horizontal position.
1441
01:38:08,842 --> 01:38:10,427
That's hull crush depth.
1442
01:38:15,140 --> 01:38:16,433
God damn, my ears.
1443
01:38:26,986 --> 01:38:29,738
And down goes the sub for the second time.
1444
01:38:40,457 --> 01:38:41,917
So this...
1445
01:38:42,668 --> 01:38:45,379
We had to do this scene here, the flooding,
1446
01:38:46,505 --> 01:38:49,258
we had to do in the real set.
1447
01:38:49,341 --> 01:38:52,177
We obviously couldn't builda second set of the engine room,
1448
01:38:52,261 --> 01:38:54,346
so we had to tilt it over.
1449
01:38:54,430 --> 01:38:56,223
And after we'd done all the other scenes in it,
1450
01:38:56,307 --> 01:38:59,935
because we didn't want to destroy ittoo early, we started flooding it.
1451
01:39:00,019 --> 01:39:04,106
And the special effects teamdid an amazing job, I think, here of
1452
01:39:04,189 --> 01:39:06,984
having a sense of the waterflooding in from everywhere,
1453
01:39:07,067 --> 01:39:09,528
behind these panels, et cetera.
1454
01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:14,617
And then, in a moment you'll see,when big blasts come in, like that,
1455
01:39:14,700 --> 01:39:18,412
it's a huge quantity of watercoming in at the same time.
1456
01:39:18,495 --> 01:39:21,165
Enough, literally, to knock you off your feet.
1457
01:39:24,668 --> 01:39:26,045
Tobin.
1458
01:39:26,712 --> 01:39:28,464
Tobin!
1459
01:39:42,019 --> 01:39:44,647
Fraser! Hold it.
1460
01:39:44,980 --> 01:39:47,566
There's something quite moving,I think, about this scene in a way,
1461
01:39:47,650 --> 01:39:51,695
that all the men, they've all been arguingand shouting and whatever,
1462
01:39:51,779 --> 01:39:55,157
but when it comes to the crisis,they're all again working as a team,
1463
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:57,785
they're all trying to save the vessel.
1464
01:39:58,786 --> 01:40:02,289
They're all kind of unifiedand a family again in a way.
1465
01:40:03,290 --> 01:40:05,292
I've got him.
1466
01:40:05,501 --> 01:40:08,587
Now we're back on board the real submarine,
1467
01:40:09,546 --> 01:40:13,801
which actually,because it was punctured on one side,
1468
01:40:13,884 --> 01:40:15,219
during most of the shoot we were on...
1469
01:40:15,302 --> 01:40:19,431
The couple of weeks we were on thisreal submarine we had to pump water
1470
01:40:19,515 --> 01:40:22,518
constantly out of one side,out of the buoyancy tank,
1471
01:40:22,601 --> 01:40:24,687
in order to keep it upright.
1472
01:40:24,770 --> 01:40:29,024
And so when we did those scenes there,where the sub's on its side,
1473
01:40:29,108 --> 01:40:33,529
it's meant to be over on its side,somewhat off-center,
1474
01:40:33,612 --> 01:40:38,033
we just stopped the pumps, actually,and let the sub, over a few hours,
1475
01:40:38,117 --> 01:40:39,785
go over onto its side like that.
1476
01:40:39,868 --> 01:40:43,789
No, Daniels, don't close that fucking door.
1477
01:40:45,207 --> 01:40:47,251
This has got to be one ofthe worst nightmares, isn't it?
1478
01:40:47,334 --> 01:40:51,380
You're trapped.You're trapped in a compartment as it floods.
1479
01:40:52,798 --> 01:40:57,177
One, two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
1480
01:40:57,261 --> 01:40:59,555
One, two, three, four, five, six...
1481
01:40:59,638 --> 01:41:01,140
Come on!
1482
01:41:11,150 --> 01:41:14,987
I thought I'd lost you, boy.
I thought I'd lost you.
1483
01:41:18,741 --> 01:41:23,579
So, that shot there is a combinationof things done actually as a little pick-up
1484
01:41:23,662 --> 01:41:25,622
in the Pinewood tank.
1485
01:41:27,374 --> 01:41:32,546
Ben Mendelsohn against green screenand then these other guys,
1486
01:41:34,173 --> 01:41:38,135
Sergey and Michael, both in the tank.
1487
01:41:40,679 --> 01:41:42,806
And I love that shot there,the bubbles coming out of his mouth.
1488
01:41:42,890 --> 01:41:46,226
He knows he's dead.I mean horrible, horrible moment.
1489
01:41:47,019 --> 01:41:49,688
He survived the explosionbut he knows he's dead.
1490
01:42:00,991 --> 01:42:04,036
No. No. No. No.
1491
01:42:04,536 --> 01:42:06,914
Shit. No!
1492
01:42:08,207 --> 01:42:10,918
So, this is a compositeof different bits of set.
1493
01:42:11,001 --> 01:42:13,587
You know, these close-ups hereare done on a little bit of set
1494
01:42:13,670 --> 01:42:16,131
which we could submerge into a tank.
1495
01:42:16,215 --> 01:42:21,094
The wider shots are doneon our real control room set at Pinewood
1496
01:42:21,178 --> 01:42:23,388
just with water spraying in.
1497
01:42:23,597 --> 01:42:24,973
Morozov.
1498
01:42:25,057 --> 01:42:28,560
So that's the real set,then when you go in tighter,
1499
01:42:29,728 --> 01:42:33,982
it's just a tiny little section that we builtthat we could lower into the water on a crane.
1500
01:42:34,191 --> 01:42:35,192
Are we still down here?
1501
01:42:40,531 --> 01:42:41,532
Aye.
1502
01:42:49,748 --> 01:42:54,419
Jude, again, is really wonderful here.His moment of realization of what he's done.
1503
01:42:54,503 --> 01:42:57,798
That kind of madness has worn off,
1504
01:42:57,881 --> 01:43:00,342
and he knowsthat he's brought these guys to their death.
1505
01:43:00,425 --> 01:43:03,929
So, yeah. This is the little bit of setthat's been lowered on a crane
1506
01:43:04,930 --> 01:43:06,557
into the water.
1507
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:11,895
Oh, and he's gone.
1508
01:43:25,033 --> 01:43:26,618
The sub has gone.
1509
01:43:27,661 --> 01:43:29,663
All men dead.
1510
01:43:30,163 --> 01:43:34,293
Interestingly, all the doors on the submarine,all the hatches,
1511
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:36,295
I don't think you ever see a close-up of it,
1512
01:43:36,378 --> 01:43:39,089
but I just saw a flash of it therein the wider shot,
1513
01:43:39,172 --> 01:43:45,637
they've all got written on them a code,which is a kind of Morse code,
1514
01:43:46,138 --> 01:43:48,223
which is what you are meant
1515
01:43:48,307 --> 01:43:50,893
to tap out on the doorif you are a Russian sailor
1516
01:43:50,976 --> 01:43:52,728
and you're trappedin one of these compartments
1517
01:43:52,811 --> 01:43:54,771
and the water's flooded in.
1518
01:43:54,897 --> 01:43:58,191
And it says at the top,the first part of the code is something like,
1519
01:43:58,275 --> 01:44:02,029
you know, "I've contained the waterand everything's okay."
1520
01:44:02,112 --> 01:44:04,448
It's like three tap, tap, tap, or something.
1521
01:44:04,531 --> 01:44:08,410
And then, as it goes down to,"We are flooded and all dying."
1522
01:44:08,493 --> 01:44:11,496
You know? Whatever that is. It's quite stark.
1523
01:44:11,580 --> 01:44:16,126
It's quite a stark reminder of howamazingly dangerous it is to be a submariner
1524
01:44:16,209 --> 01:44:20,672
and obviously many... It's notjustthe Kursk accident I spoke about earlier,
1525
01:44:20,756 --> 01:44:22,591
but many, many submarine disasters.
1526
01:44:22,674 --> 01:44:24,885
There's, I think, two or three
1527
01:44:24,968 --> 01:44:27,262
in the British navyjust since the Second World War
1528
01:44:27,346 --> 01:44:30,849
where submarines have gone downwith all hands on board.
1529
01:44:31,058 --> 01:44:33,769
Things can just go wrong,and they head towards the bottom,
1530
01:44:33,852 --> 01:44:35,979
and if you're in very deep water,
1531
01:44:36,063 --> 01:44:39,566
the submarine just cracks upunder the pressure and that's it.
1532
01:44:43,820 --> 01:44:46,198
Now these escape suits,
1533
01:44:46,281 --> 01:44:49,618
these are actually real escape suitswhich we borrowed from the
1534
01:44:49,701 --> 01:44:51,662
manufacturer who makes them.
1535
01:44:51,745 --> 01:44:53,622
And they are, in fact, the best means...
1536
01:44:53,705 --> 01:44:57,125
They look very flimsy, don't they?They look like something you'd wear to go
1537
01:44:57,209 --> 01:44:59,711
for a bike ride almost, in the wetor something like that.
1538
01:44:59,795 --> 01:45:03,799
They are actually useful up to, I believe,
1539
01:45:04,883 --> 01:45:07,469
four or five hundred meters deep.
1540
01:45:08,178 --> 01:45:11,139
You put one of those things on,and you breathe out as you're going up,
1541
01:45:11,223 --> 01:45:13,642
and you will survive.
1542
01:45:14,726 --> 01:45:17,062
So it's quite an extraordinary thing.
1543
01:45:20,732 --> 01:45:22,401
How much does one of these weigh?
1544
01:45:22,484 --> 01:45:25,612
12 kilos. Half a million dollars.
1545
01:45:25,737 --> 01:45:27,030
Can we put one in our suits?
1546
01:45:28,740 --> 01:45:30,283
Not if you wanna get off the bottom, no.
1547
01:45:30,367 --> 01:45:33,245
It's a difficult, difficult thingthat they're actually...
1548
01:45:33,328 --> 01:45:34,871
They look pretty stupid in them.
1549
01:45:34,955 --> 01:45:37,165
That's one of those things in filmsyou don't think about, you know.
1550
01:45:37,249 --> 01:45:39,668
'Cause you think, "Oh, they're goingto be wearing the submarine suits,
1551
01:45:39,751 --> 01:45:43,672
"and they're a real thing." But actuallythe color is so awful and those
1552
01:45:43,755 --> 01:45:46,216
black things they have to wearover their heads.
1553
01:45:46,299 --> 01:45:52,014
It's very hard to somehow take an actorseriously when he's dressed like that.
1554
01:45:52,097 --> 01:45:55,350
So, you know, we did quite a lotof fiddling around to make them
1555
01:45:55,434 --> 01:45:56,643
look as good as we could.
1556
01:45:56,727 --> 01:45:57,853
Your boy.
1557
01:46:00,272 --> 01:46:02,107
It's all that matters.
1558
01:46:31,595 --> 01:46:34,222
Go. Go.
1559
01:46:55,452 --> 01:46:57,037
Water.
1560
01:47:00,665 --> 01:47:04,920
Of course the actors get absolutely freezingdoing these kind of scenes.
1561
01:47:05,003 --> 01:47:07,214
Particularly this one here,which is on board the submarine,
1562
01:47:07,339 --> 01:47:11,760
because there's nowhere to go and warm up,whereas at least when they're...
1563
01:47:13,512 --> 01:47:17,599
Looks like a space man, doesn't he?Looks like he's going off into space.
1564
01:47:17,682 --> 01:47:19,017
At least when they're on the set, you know,
1565
01:47:19,101 --> 01:47:21,019
they could get very coldwhen there was a wet scene,
1566
01:47:21,103 --> 01:47:24,856
and then they could gosit in a big Jacuzzi or something.
1567
01:47:24,981 --> 01:47:28,485
But, yeah. They had to get very, very cold.
1568
01:47:37,452 --> 01:47:41,623
Now this is actually the open sea here.This is done in the south of England.
1569
01:47:41,706 --> 01:47:44,417
But, as with the shotthat we did on the submarine,
1570
01:47:44,501 --> 01:47:48,004
when the submarine leaves the harborin Sevastopol, which is also at sea,
1571
01:47:48,088 --> 01:47:51,591
we got these incredibly calm flat days,so it looks a bit like a tank.
1572
01:47:51,675 --> 01:47:54,636
Slightly disappointing there.I was hoping for big waves, you know.
1573
01:47:54,719 --> 01:47:58,223
For them to be not almost ableto see each other in the big waves.
1574
01:47:58,306 --> 01:48:02,644
But sometimes you just have toaccept what the gods send you.
1575
01:48:02,769 --> 01:48:07,023
And in this case, they sent usnot very stormy weather, not very big waves.
1576
01:48:09,234 --> 01:48:12,612
In the background in some of these shots,you can see land that is
1577
01:48:12,696 --> 01:48:15,407
a kind of CG adaptation of the landthat is actually there.
1578
01:48:15,490 --> 01:48:18,618
It's the south of England. We didn't want itto look in any way recognizable.
1579
01:48:18,702 --> 01:48:20,829
There were some white cliffs there,I think, so we got rid of them.
1580
01:48:20,912 --> 01:48:22,414
It was one of the big debatesthat we had there
1581
01:48:22,497 --> 01:48:24,833
about whether or not,at the end of the movie,
1582
01:48:24,916 --> 01:48:26,585
we should be able to see land or not.
1583
01:48:26,668 --> 01:48:29,421
And there was, you know,debate about whether...
1584
01:48:30,130 --> 01:48:34,759
Was it better that we abandonedour characters on the top of the water
1585
01:48:34,843 --> 01:48:36,636
with no land in sight?
1586
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:40,557
So although they had all this gold,they were never going to be able to spend it.
1587
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:42,726
They were probably never going to survive.
1588
01:48:42,809 --> 01:48:45,645
But we felt, in the end,that that was a bit too bleak.
1589
01:48:45,729 --> 01:48:48,523
Although there was somethingpoetic about it,
1590
01:48:48,607 --> 01:48:49,774
we felt it was a little too bleak,
1591
01:48:49,858 --> 01:48:53,069
and we wanted to leave the sense ofRobinson passing on, I guess,
1592
01:48:53,153 --> 01:48:55,238
to his surrogate son,
1593
01:48:56,364 --> 01:48:58,950
and possibly also to his actual son,
1594
01:48:59,576 --> 01:49:02,120
some of the gold that he'd got.
1595
01:49:22,807 --> 01:49:26,978
There's something about this moment herewhich I think is very potent.
1596
01:49:27,062 --> 01:49:30,857
I think the idea of this charactersitting on all these tons of gold,
1597
01:49:30,941 --> 01:49:33,944
but he can't do anything with it,and it's become worthless to him.
1598
01:49:34,027 --> 01:49:38,073
You know, this is what he's killedall these people for, in a way,
1599
01:49:38,156 --> 01:49:41,868
and he's suffered all this stuff,and he's sitting there thinking,
1600
01:49:41,952 --> 01:49:45,455
smiling to himself thinking,"Well, that wasn't really worth it, was it?
1601
01:49:45,622 --> 01:49:50,543
"I should have just stayed with the family.That's what's really important in life."
1602
01:49:52,045 --> 01:49:56,007
And, yeah. I like that ideathat some of the gold
1603
01:49:56,091 --> 01:49:58,802
just becomes a seat,just becomes a chair to sit on.
1604
01:49:58,885 --> 01:50:01,888
It's of no more usethan a wooden chair would be.
1605
01:50:03,265 --> 01:50:04,683
Robinson.
1606
01:50:05,684 --> 01:50:07,435
Robinson!
1607
01:50:16,319 --> 01:50:17,570
And there's that photo.
1608
01:50:17,654 --> 01:50:20,323
That was the first thingwe shot on the film actually.
1609
01:50:20,407 --> 01:50:24,661
We went down to the southwest of Cornwalland we shot that on a beautiful beach.
1610
01:50:24,744 --> 01:50:28,290
We were very lucky,it was a gorgeous couple of days.
1611
01:50:28,915 --> 01:50:32,043
And that became pretty muchthe last image of the movie
1612
01:50:32,127 --> 01:50:34,087
and the first thing we shot.
1613
01:50:34,170 --> 01:50:35,797
Anyway, thanks very much for listening.
1614
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:39,592
I hope you've learned a little bitabout the movie that's helped you
1615
01:50:39,718 --> 01:50:42,304
see it in a different way,hopefully enjoy it in a different way,
1616
01:50:42,387 --> 01:50:45,890
and it's been nice to keep you company.Bye-bye.
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