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[intro theme music playing]

All right, Tyler, we are live,
and we're just moments away

from meeting the celebrity
you're about to read today.

-Are you getting any feelings today?
-A lot of dad energy,

a lot of religious symbology,
so we'll see.

All right. See you in there!

-I'll see you out there.
-Buh-bye.

Okay, you guys, I'm really excited
about today's guest.

She has a unique relationship
with the afterlife.

You'll see why right now.

My name is Tyler Henry,
and I have a rather unusual ability.

I don't exactly see dead people,
but I definitely communicate with them.

I receive messages from those
who've passed for those still here,

proving our loved ones
never truly leave us.

I don't know who I'm going to read
or what messages may come through,

but powerful revelations
await from the other side.

Welcome to Live From the Other Side
With Tyler Henry.

Right behind me
on this sofa is a celebrity

and their closest friends and family.

And they are all here
to get a live reading

from the world's most renowned medium,
Tyler Henry.

Hi, I'm Amanda Kloots.

Tyler never knows who he's going to read

before he meets them for the first time
right here on this show.

So, Tyler, do you want to come out
and meet who you're here to see today?

All right.

-Hello.
-Hello.

[Tyler laughs]

How's it going? How are you?

What an outfit.

You look beautiful.

-Thank you.
-How are you, sir?

Wonderful to meet you.
I love your outfit.

My goodness, everyone's so well dressed.

-Lovely to meet you.
-Wonderful to meet you.

-How are you? Great to meet you.
-Great to meet you.

-Good to meet you.
-Wonderful to see you.

-Hello, friend.
-It's so good to see you.

-Mama, thank you for joining us today.
-Mama.

We have, of course, Tyler's mom,

-Theresa with us today.
-[Theresa] Hello, everyone. Hello.

[Amanda] So, Tyler,
this is TV personality,

attorney, author, and so much more,
Phaedra Parks.

Thanks for being with us today.

-Thanks for having me. Super excited.
-Of course. So glad to be here.

Tell us who you brought with you today
and how you know them.

Well, I brought
my favorite cousin, Genard.

He's known me longer than I know myself.
He's older than me.

-[Tyler] I love it!
-[all laughing]

[Amanda laughing] She likes
to get that in there.

I've brought Adriane one of--
Out of the girls,

she's the newest of my friends,
but we're together all the time.

I love her. I've brought Stephanie.

-We've known each other for 15, 16 years?
-Yes.

And my oldest friend here is Adriene.

-Went to school together.
-[Tyler] Love it.

So two Adrienes and two people
that see dead people.

[Tyler] That's fabulous.
I'm excited to talk about that

and see if the connection is stronger
or if you've had your own experiences.

Well, Phaedra, please tell Tyler
what your unique relationship

to the afterlife is because you share
something special with him.

I'm a funeral director and a mortician.

That's amazing.
I feel like I heard that before.

-Yes.
-Such an interesting occupation.

I'm excited to talk about career.
I have a lot there,

-as far as what spurned…
-Yes.

…that growth into that industry
and some upcoming stuff.

We'll go across the board.

I'll scribble and relay everything
that comes through today.

So, as far as how this goes,
I find that generally

the most specific information
is where I have to kind of go,

and I view these connections that I make
almost like currents.

Some come through like a white water rapid
and others come through like a trickle.

[laughs] And I like to go where
the strongest connection might be.

So, as we go through this process today,

I'll scribble,
relay everything that comes through.

And what I find to be so validating

is so often the references to things
that are only known between you

and the person that passed.
That substantiates the connection.

Often times, that will fall
into categories of, like, inside jokes,

family dynamics,
things that've recently been going on.

All these things will kind of get referred
to, and as we navigate the information,

if there's anything
too sensitive on my end,

like, "I don't want to say this,"
I'll whisper it.

Anything sensitive that comes through,
you can be at ease that it's all good.

Of course we're live,
so I'm very mindful of that.

With that said today,
we're going to go all across the board.

I'm really excited to be able
to see where we head.

I'm going to start
with a number of objects,

and I do see that y'all brought some,
which is awesome.

I have to ask, what's that object?
That little book over there.

-Oh, it's a Bible.
-[Tyler] Oh!

[Amanda] Wow.

Interesting.
So you're gonna find this funny.

[Amanda] Oh, my gosh.

Before I do a show,
before I ever sit down with someone,

I write things down that I get,
as far as objects.

And before I got here,

I very strongly felt like
whoever was connected

to this particular object
that I wrote down here

needed first and foremostly,
for you to know that they are okay.

'Cause I want to show you,
this has the date on it.

-This is 11/19…
-[Amanda] Wow.

…and the object was "Bible."

Now, we'll see how much
we delve into that object,

but I got to tell you
first and foremostly,

whoever's connected to it wanted to be
the first to come through today.

[Amanda] Wow.

[Tyler] You need to know off the bat
that's a validation of that.

-That was my sister's.
-I love that.

And we'll talk about her more

try to see if we get the ins and outs,

but I'll basically just relay everything
that comes through

and we'll go from there.

[Amanda] You said that to me backstage.

You said, "I'm getting
some religious things today." Yes.

[Tyler] It's really interesting.

So we'll navigate it all
as far as where we go.

Um, as far as objects,
I'll take a moment to sit with each

and we'll go from there,
and then we'll see where we're drawn.

If there's anything.
I love what we got.

-Oh, how funny.
-[all laughing]

That is so weird.
I almost wrote "shoe" down.

-No one likes a clairvoyant…
-Wow.

…going, afterward,
"I was gonna write 'shoe'."

But then, sure enough,
this is like a slipper.

So that's funny. Amazing.
Give me one sec.

Connect with that.

I'll hand that back to you.

And we'll go down the list
as far as objects

and I'll feel if I connect with any.

[Genard] Okay. Mine was a song.

Cool. A song. You know what?

That's okay.

-[Genard] You wanna hear it?
-I'd love to hear.

I love that. That's interesting.

-Object being a song for the first time.
-Yeah.

We'll see if anything comes in around it.

Tyler, I know you hear…

-You see things a lot.
-Yeah.

[R&B song playing from phone speaker]

[Tyler] Distinctly different energy,
so that's a good sign for me.

That's the first time a song
has ever been used here.

I was just going to ask, is that
a different kind of symbology for you?

-I know you see things…
-Yes.

…but have you ever gotten readings
from hearing something?

I don't think I've had
someone play a song

but I get references musically,
will come through.

What people played at their funeral
will come in. [laughs]

In one of those episodes,
we had a lovely person coming in

saying, "Should've played
the Gladys Knight song."

-So, it happens.
-[all laughing]

And we do find that that connects.

Music by nature is so connective.

We'll see if anything comes
from there.

I'll go down
and we'll continue next down the line.

Amazing. Passport. So sweet.

It's not the passport,
it's actually the…

-[Tyler] The holder. Got it.
-The holder for the passport.

Leather pass… cover.

We go there. Okay.

And once we've got…

Okay, I think I should be able
to connect with that one.

-And what I'll do…
-So happy.

[Tyler] If I talk… If I go there…

Okay.

I'll scribble. We'll give it a shot.

There's a lot of energy popping
so the challenge will be

me figuring out where I'm going.

So I'll relay,
some might connect more to you,

some might connect over there.
I have a lot to work with. Good sign.

So I'm going to scribble
and the way this comes across…

[inhales deeply] Bible, Bible, Bible.
I need…

When we talk about the Bible object

and the person associated with that,

you said sister.

And the way this came across.

One of the first messages that I needed
to acknowledge, by and large,

was a sense of relief.

When she comes through,
there's a sense of a big exhale. Like…

[sighs deeply]

And I feel at ease and immediately
overwhelmed by that sense

of just being content with having let go.

And I need you to know that regardless
of the circumstances,

she comes through.

Ascending beyond it
in a much larger sense.

We'll get into the nitty-gritty
as far as details go.

But within your family, do you
know of any situations

where there would be four
or five siblings?

-My mother had five siblings.
-[Tyler] Gotcha.

When we go to mom's side
of the family,

this is good to keep note of,

if there was any situation
where a mother and her daughter…

butted heads or had,

perhaps, a different kind of relationship
than other females within the family?

Just something to convey and keep in mind.

Sometimes they'll refer to dynamics
of things that have occurred,

and they are just having me acknowledge…

All good. Like…
Closing that chapter.

But a mother-daughter relationship

that ends up being very…
complicated. [laughs]

The only way to describe it.
They are acknowledging a sense of…

"We're all good. We're letting this go."

But it comes through, it would be
pertinent in some capacity.

You don't have to give
too much information.

Does that… Could you see--

-Absolutely. No question.
-[Tyler] That's a good start.

I'm going to jump back and forth.

Do you know of any situations
where anyone has taken their own life?

-Yes.
-[Tyler] I gotta highlight,

acknowledgments around situations

in which someone gets into a circumstance

where their actions kind of lead, uh…

The tricky thing is not all of this
feels completely intentional.

It's like flirting with death
and then I pass.

And then this gets ruled a suicide,
is how I'd describe this.

There's a feeling of flirting with death.

I don't know if i really want to
do it, but it does happen.

That definitely kind of pops in, so…

There is that aspect there. Um…

And you know of at least one of those
individuals that we connect with…

Let me take this a step further.

I've got this guy coming in.

What in the world?

Um… who's my man here?

We gotta figure out who he is.

I'm saying this,
I have a guy that's coming through.

He would've passed over 10 years ago.
We're not talking recent.

He's like a spitfire
when he's coming across.

And he's like, "He can't forget me,
can't forget me." Um…

So I have to go with him.

And he…

is coming across real interesting.

He's bringing up…

[Phaedra] Mmm.

His passing,
and then the emotions around it.

A good thing to keep in mind,
they're having me discuss

discussions around depression, anxiety,
even with living people.

-[Phaedra] Mm-hmm.
-When we talk about his passing,

he's having me talk about his death

kind of spurring
conversations around mental health.

How we kind of bring things to light
that perhaps we kind of kept hidden,

and conversations around that
in some larger capacity.

This guy, it had to be over 10 years ago.

This feels like a while ago,
I don't want to give away too much,

but do you know who that is?

-I know exactly who that is.
-[Tyler] Okay.

If we take that a step further…

Did you bring objects
connected to that individual?

-No, I didn't.
-[Tyler] Okay. It's all good.

-They still find a way to pop in.
-[all laughing]

I'm gonna look there. Um…

This is kind of
an interesting coincidence.

It's strange,
but there is an acknowledgment

of something I often see
with makeup artists.

There's times where makeup
artists will end up doing makeup art--

What in the world?
I'm tryna get this analogy. Um…

Sometimes makeup artists will do

the makeup of someone
who has passed away.

There's a situation
where I'm drawing commonality

of like my place, my thing.

It's like, this is what I do,

and someone who would have
an occupational connection,

but I'm bringing in a familiar feeling.

So, it's kinda like…

The only way to describe it, check and see

if work got a little too personal,

or if… I'm tryna think.

If something was done to a body,

but I'm taking on a professional role,

but it's like, "I know you,
I'm familiar with you."

I'm confused with that.
Does anybody know about that?

I see eyes. I see a connection.

[guests murmuring]

Can you tell us more about that?

-What do you want me to tell him?
-[whispers] You can tell him.

[Genard clicks tongue and sighs]

Okay, so…

[Genard exhales deeply]

Knowing that Phaedra was…

[Phaedra whispering]

Was getting into mortician…

And, uh…

She came up to the funeral home and…

-and saw the director is my cousin.
-[Tyler] Yeah.

-And…
-I'mma do his makeup.

I just want him done
and stuff like this.

[Tyler] Yeah. Yeah.

[sniffling]

[Tyler] I have to acknowledge
how much appreciation

I feel around this guy.
He gives me a familiarity,

a real light-heartedness
that he's coming across.

He finds it amusing that
this is happening today,

-which is kinda interesting.
-[guests laugh]

Remember that I am saying this.

It's kind of interesting.

There might be a significance
around this time of year.

Think birth dates, death dates,

anything significant going on right now?

He died… I mean, he…

11/22 was his birthday.

But he died December the 13th.

Gotcha. Okay.

So his birthday would've been
within a couple of days.

[Adriane] Yeah.

I need to put a celebratory feeling
around this

and a feeling of joy and levity
and happiness,

but it's in stark contrast
to what happened,

so I wanna get into this
a little more.

The first person you saw,
he was, um, my very close friend

-that committed suicide.
-[Tyler] Gotcha.

And he committed suicide
November 1st.

[Tyler] Oh, gotcha.
So there's some November connections.

Yep.

When we talk about
our younger guy here…

So we gotta separate
the first person from the second.

-Yep.
-And the second person

is somewhere my interest is going there,
my guy.

Um, okay, let me figure him.

In the meantime,
did you bring any objects

that you would like me to hold onto?

-That's right. Sorry. The song.
-The song.

Okay, give me one minute. [inhales]

No, there's something else.
What in the world is this?

This younger guy.

What in the world?

This younger guy's coming through.
It's not the one who took their life

in that sense, it's his.

I've gotta highlight this feeling
of my shoes.

I'm seeing my shoes. [laughs]

I feel like I have to present a shoe.

This is gonna sound strange,

you didn't bring any shoe of any sort?

Do you know what ever happened
to his shoes?

If anybody knows
where his objects went?

-Yeah. I got his shoes when he died.
-[Tyler] Yes.

I have to highlight,
the way this comes across,

it comes real informal to me.

Not real formal.

He's coming across real cool
and very relaxed.

And when we talk about him being

celebrated in a larger capacity,

this is good to keep in mind,
he is showing symbology

around doves, like a visitation.

I know this is gonna sound strange,

but he tried to communicate
through nature in some way,

and he's showing doves.

If there ever ends up
being like a dove,

a mourning dove,

something like that
that ends up appearing.

He's like, "That's me. That's me."
It keeps coming.

-You are too good.
-[all laughing]

[Amanda] Do you see doves or…

[Genard clicks tongue] Um…
I tell my wife all the time,

I see a bird always
at the window twerping.

-[Tyler] Yes.
-Like, when something getting ready

to happen bad or something.

-Wow.
-You know, it's interesting.

They come symbolically

to let us know they're with us
during good times

and sometimes really tough times.

And oftentimes these symbols
can kind of act as a prerequisite

to events that are about to happen.

When you see that,

there's a sense of,
"I know you've made this connection,

and I know you in some way."

I need to highlight him
as being significant.

[Tyler] When we talk about him,

what was his name?

-Joshua Key.
-I love it.

Very good.

Um…

This is going to sound funny.

There is an artist named J.Cole.

-You familiar with J. Cole?
-Mm.

There is something funny

where I'm wanting
to change his name

to, like, his name that you just said.

But I want an emphasis
on the J part

and then a secondary thing.

Remember I'm saying that.

It's almost a nickname.

Not literally J. Cole,

there's a nickname
with this.

First name
then separating it from second.

How long ago did he pass away?

-Uh, about 11 years ago.
-Okay, got you.

So, that would be why
I was kind of going more that route.

Does anybody know of anyone here
who passed away of renal failure?

That would be
kidney related problems

where someone's kind of like
filtration system started going downhill.

In the end of my grandmother's life,
she had renal failure.

I know this is kind of random,

but the way they do this is fast.

-So, I'm gonna focus on you.
-[Adriene] Okay.

We'll go back and forth. [chuckles]

Did you bring objects
connected to her at all?

-I have.
-Okay.

I have to ask you.

This is so interesting when you were…

Right when you appeared

or I appeared, I guess,

I had to highlight

an acknowledgment
of a sense of great relief

from my physical body.

When people feel their
physical body turned against them

and was extremely difficult,
extremely, like…

generally going on and on and on,

remember I'm saying this.

Check if anyone
any females dealt with any issues

where they were stuck in bed
and couldn't move,

or anyone dealing with anything
neuromuscular.

Stuck is the way
that I would describe this.

Remember that I'm saying this.

On your mother's side of family,

do you know if anybody suffered
from dementia at all?

Do you know of any cognition-related
issues on Mom's side?

-Yes. Mm-hmm.
-Okay.

It's a lot of information.

It can be confusing.

But they're bringing me to the feeling
of physical wasting away,

but in a kind of dementia context.

My encouragement would be
just to check on that side

if anyone, any females,

would have struggled
with what looks like brain health.

I feel very fuzzy.

But more than anything,

I feel frustrated
because I'm just sitting here.

I feel like I can't

be the kind of person
that people would remember me as.

I feel like I want to be able to
get up and do things,

and I just feel stuck
is kind of the only way to word that.

And that does come in.

You are aware
of the dementia connection, right?

If it's current,

not a person that has passed, yes.

And when we talk about ongoing matters,

when we talk about dementia,

do you know if with that situation
currently there is an element

of lack of physicality,
not being able to get up?

-There is a large fear of that coming.
-Okay, got you.

I have to highlight.

They're putting emphasis
on the physical

than even necessarily the mental.

And that sometimes
can be almost like a way

of acknowledging things to keep in mind,

indications of progression.

Um, where are three sisters in the family?

Three sisters.

I… I'm one of three.

That's okay.
It could be blending over.

-Yeah.
-We can look into it.

When we talk about
your mom's side of family,

-are you familiar with them?
-[Adriene] Very.

-You know your grandma…
-Yes.

…on that side?

You know how many siblings
she would've had?

Yes, like, eight I believe.

-Many.
-Eight, got you.

Do you know within that eight
if there were three girls?

There were at least three.

The reason I ask

is I want you to check and see
if there's any photographs of, like…

[laughs] On that side of family,
I have to talk about this, like…

Wonder why I'm saying this.
My hair feels like a beehive.

-It's like, big. The way it comes across…
-[laughter]

That is so funny.

If there's conversations
around that,

references to that keeps coming up.

She owned a hair salon,
my grandmother did.

The higher the hair,
the closer to God kind of feeling.

Like, this comes through.

I want to like, tease it.

She owned a hair salon.

But it comes across meticulous
and very on top of it

in the way this comes in.

One thing I would encourage you
to keep in mind,

check and see
if there's within family,

any acknowledgements of, like, Ann.

So that can sometimes refer
to Ann as a middle name.

if there's no first name Anns
that come to mind,

and trust me, with family,
there's a lot there.

-Okay.
-But look into it 'cause it is hitting me

on that side of family,
and that's good to know.

-Thank you.
-When we talk about people

in general, could I hold on
to one of your objects?

I would love to see
'cause I have someone else popping in.

And I wanna kinda
get to the bottom of it. Um…

You have a couple people.

So, one thing I want to mention
is there's an acknowledgment of,

like, a man that just came in.

Give me one sec. But I'm kind of…
I have to figure out who these people are.

One thing I want to highlight is there's
a guy that comes across,

there's a sense of, "Me, me, me, me, me!
You better not forget me. I'm right here."

Like very, very, very intense.

And I'm gonna focus on him,
but I have to put him

-on pause for a second.
-Okay.

They're having me highlight a situation

where, basically, there's two deaths,
one after another.

So, one passing happens.

We're in grief. We're dealing
with the loss of this loved one.

As we're still grieving one passing,
a secondary death occurs.

And this sometimes refers to either
within a family, two losses,

or someone having more of a closer loss,

and then within that time,
a family member passes away.

So my question would be,
do you know of any situations

perhaps around this, perhaps not,
of basically two people

passing away within a five-year period?

-Yes.
-Okay.

When I go there,
I have to highlight that.

Now, do you know if…
The only way to describe this

is there's acknowledgements of a man

who expresses a ton of love
towards a living woman,

and I need to bring that up.

The way this comes across is
this guy keeps acknowledging this feeling

of… I don't want to be cheesy here,
but when someone comes across

and they're like, "This person was
a soul mate. This person was my person."

Whoever that is in that equation,
there's this feeling of that love

and that bond continuing
long after I passed,

but it's very much acknowledging
my contemporary,

the person that I would love, directly,

and it keeps coming in,
but very much in a living context.

-Okay.
-He's like, "I'm good." Keeps coming,

they're very excited.

Do you know of any R-O names
in your families, like Robert?

-Yes.
-Okay. Which side would that go for?

-That's my dad's father's name.
-Got it.

-Your grandpa.
-Robert, yes.

That aspect does pop in there in that way.

Do you know of, when we talk about

men who have passed
who would be, like, under 55?

-Mm-hmm.
-[Tyler sighs]

I can't let this guy go, so I don't know
how much of this will make sense,

-it might be a little off the wall.
-Okay.

If I talk about a man who passed before 55
who would not be coming through…

He keeps having to highlight his lady.
His lady. I'm trying to figure that out.

I don't know of anyone
that was that in love.

I'm sorry, I'm just joking. I'm joking.

No, I totally get it.

-We're gonna figure it out.
-Okay.

I want to ask. So if we talk about people

who have passed before 55
that would be male,

someone comes to mind?

-I have an uncle… yes.
-Okay.

-Do you know if he was married?
-A lot of times.

-[laughter]
-A lot of times. Several times. Okay.

When we talk about that side of family,
so you have both

mom's side and dad's side
and they're coming through

in almost a competition,
both are popping in.

-Yes.
-When we talk about that side,

they're having me bring up
acknowledgment around

what in this case would be an aunt,
but is she still alive?

On his… With him,
I didn't have a bond with them.

-I don't know them that well.
-Gotcha. Okay.

The way this comes across is he just keeps
having me highlight this,

and it's generally an indication

of life changes that are going to happen,
things that we may see kind of unfold,

but it's very much an awareness
of living life left behind,

which is kind of
the only way to describe it.

-We'll figure it out.
-Okay.

But by and large, there's a lot there.
Who does this belong to?

That's a shoe shine brush.
That was my dad's.

And I used to shine… get the shoes,
very old-fashioned, on Saturdays,

get 'em ready for Sunday with him.
And just the swish of the noise

-is so nostalgic.
-Yes.

I love that so much. Yes.

-It's such a cool object, I'm like…
-Yeah.

[laughs] I want to ask,

we have the grandpa connection
and the way that that comes across,

do you know of any men who didn't
quite make it to, uh…

Sorry, it's an in-between realm.

So, they're having me
acknowledge basically

between, if we look at, like, 60 to 78,

-if we go in that realm.
-My dad is in that range.

That's where I wanna go, 'cause 78
is the national average, or at least was.

And so I'm like, right, "I live
kind of a full life but I don't get to see

-many things."
-He missed everything, my dad did.

-I'm sorry.
-All the good stuff. He was 62.

-Yes, pretty young.
-Yeah.

I have to highlight
in the way this comes across,

he brings up the acknowledgment
around these boys, [chuckles]

the boys, and I have to talk about them.

And there's this feeling, this is gonna
sound strange, but across generations,

there will be kind of a unique connection
of similarity.

Basically, when we talk about boys
either knowing things they should know,

having similarities to Dad that they would
have no way of being able to process.

There's this acknowledgment of a
discussion of that connecting in some way

and wanting to reaffirm that in a way that
pops in. So does that make sense?

-It does. Thanks.
-Gotcha.

I have to bring up, um…

What else are you giving me?

There's a lot there… with his situa--

Nope, they just had somebody else pop in.
That's okay.

Okay. We'll probably come back…

-Okay.
-…and we'll figure it out,

-but I'm going to let you pass that.
-Thank you.

And then I want to talk about…

This is funny, we are going
all over the place.

I'm focusing more on the people
you brought than you.

-[laughter]
-Let me look and see where we're headed.

Oh, and this object was very cool too,

if you want to pass that down.

-Can I ask a quick question?
-Absolutely.

The "me, me, me" guy he was talking about,
was that your dad?

-I had a feeling it was.
-[Tyler] Yeah.

He was a very subtle person,

but also very gregarious personality.

-[Tyler] Yes.
-And a very deep connection, for me, and…

Yes, so I'm assuming it's him,

because that uncle you spoke about was…

my uncle that taught me
how to do a lot of fun things.

But there was a very dark side as well,
so I was, kind of, surprised

that that could be a possibility,
but he did die younger.

-Yes.
-But there was definitely a feeling

my dad, even at 62,
that was too young for him.

He was a very young spirit.

Yeah, I definitely get that sense…

We have so much in common,

and we have discovered this
in the last week.

Like, everything.

And my father's name is Leroy.

-"Roy," you said R-O.
-[Adriene] Yes.

-And he died at 62 too.
-[Tyler] Wow.

A lot of similarities.

He couldn't move at all.

He had degeneration of the cerebellum,
so he couldn't move.

-So, while you are saying…
-Yes.

…I was like
everything that you are saying,

I'm like, "Again?"

That's why I grabbed your hand,
because everything…

-We have the same name.
-[Tyler] That's wild. Right?

-What are the odds? Yes.
-Yeah.

So, it just is funny because…

my item is that,

-so when I kept hearing this, I'm like…
-You're like, "Wait."

I didn't want to interrupt,
but I was like, "Again?"

That's why I grabbed you.
Same thing as my dad.

This is something really special
I can speak to is,

if Phaedra has…

As we are very fortunate
to be in her life,

because she is a person
who walks the walk with you,

and all of us, I can speak to,

-that she knows all of our stories…
-Yes.

…because she's that friend…

-Yes.
-…and that person that we all love,

-and she loves in a big way.
-[Adriane] It truly is.

So, just to be here with her
is so special.

Right, and to honor these loved ones,
that's what it's all about.

We both are very familiar with death

-and repercussions of that.
-Yes.

But we also see the value of being able

to know that they are so much more
than that one transition

and honoring that life
and introducing them to a world

that may never get the chance
to physically meet them.

Through our actions…

This is important.

I want to focus on you, if that's okay,

and see if we can connect
a little bit more.

You have a lot of people
popping in as well,

and I will try to get to you too.
We're gonna all over them.

-Did you want the ring?
-I do, yeah.

Yeah, I'll do that.

That was a… very interesting connection.

So I'm gonna hold onto this,
and we're gonna go from there.

And we will see. Okay.

Um…

Okay. [scats] We're going to go
all across the board.

We have who we intend to hear from,

and keep in mind lots of people
might end up making a connection.

So right off the bat,
I have to highlight a situation.

If we go a generation back,

do you know
if there where any half-siblings

or people who aren't all
biologically sharing the same mom and dad?

[chuckles]

-Everybody.
-[Tyler] Everybody?

The way that I'd highlight this…

It's all good, but they are separating,

basically, the people
who have the same parents,

people who have different…
That kind of thing.

And they're just acknowledging,
it is what it is.

It's all good. Every family
has different dynamics,

but it's a way of being aware

of the landscape, the dynamics,

and the way this comes across.

There is a very strong acknowledgment
around two things,

and I want you to keep this in mind.
There's…

Okay.

Well, man, D-D-D…

Okay, give me one sec. So, all right.

Two things to keep in mind.

So, I'm going to say
"May" is good to keep in mind,

either as a month or as a name.

So, if somebody was like,
"Something May," or there is a May,

just good to look into.

There's also a very strong emphasis
on D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D…

keeps coming in.

Do you know of any D initials
that would be significant,

anybody that comes to mind?

Um, yeah. My cousin, Deborah,
who was my age, died last year.

Do you know if anybody had
any feminine health-related problems?

Any cancer scares at all
within the family?

Um, my sister died of ovarian cancer.

Yeah, I'm so sorry,

'cause I've got to highlight this feeling
of how seriously do we take this?

What's odd about this,

is it looks like the first take
ends up being very different

than how it ends up progressing.

So someone's told, you know,

we can work with this maybe,

but then they end up not being able to.

It feels like change of plan,

and I have to highlight what looks like
feminine, cancer-related problem.

So, that does pop in pretty…

That could be my sister-in-law
who died of breast cancer.

Do you know if there's
two girls below her?

Any nieces or daughters?

Um…

Yeah, in my sister-in-law's family,

they have the Ashkenazi, the BRCA1,

and it just went through the family

-in a very intense way.
-Gotcha. I'm so sorry.

It very much comes
to feminine health, feminine health,

being on top of that,
having conversations around it.

Do you know if…

just kind of a sensitive thing,
how do I articulate this?

Um…

When it comes to to honoring her,
how we honor her…

Um…

I'm struggling to articulate it.

Do you know with her
situation if there was anything

that would've delayed
a funeral or service?

So normally when we have someone pass,

usually funerals are pretty quick after.
Thereafter.

Do you know if anybody was like,
holding off or trying to like,

I don't know how to explain,
I'm seeing my symbol for delay,

and then service.

Like, waiting for someone to show up.

We did, it was like,
I think, two weeks after.

Okay, how often are-- How--

What is typical for funerals? Is it…

-Within a week.
-A week.

So, it just sems like a bit of a break
in that way.

And then I have to highlight
this thing here…

that's kind of sensitive.

Um, can I whisper something in your ear
real quick? Okay.

-Yes.
-I'm going to…

[trills] run over here.

-Have a good whisper.
-I'll be right back.

[laughter]

[whispering]

-Absolutely.
-Make sense?

-That makes the most sense.
-Okay.

It's an interesting thing.

I didn't mean to put this ring on,
funny, I slipped it on.

-Yeah.
-And it's refers to a dynamic,

that's a personal thing.

-Yes.
-There's an acknowledgment,

I see things clearly.

That ripped through an entire
two generations.

-[Tyler] Gotcha. Okay. Yes.
-One-- Yes.

Those messages are

-[Stephanie] Yeah.
-…part of the point

-of why they communicate.
-Yeah.

[Tyler] And the way this comes across,

when we talk about this loved one,
and we talk about…

This cancerous thing there.

Oh!

Remember that I'm saying this,
I keep getting lots of "Lin's"

"Linda" sounding names,
and this is good to consider.

I feel this could refer to
someone who is still alive,

so, not even passed.

When we-- Yeah, but they are important.
So, I don't know.

I will see if I get more. [laughs]

I'm glad that this is recorded.

I want to ask you, when we talk
about this, um, lovely lady,

about the feminine health decline,

do you know if this was initially missed?

Okay. I realize you're talking about

-my sister.
-[Tyler] Yes.

-That's who…
-[Stephanie] Not my…

-You're talking about my sister. Yes.
-[Tyler] Think I'm going to sister.

It was missed because she was
in a situation where

-she would've not gone to the doctor.
-[Tyler] I see.

Who within your family,
when we talk about older women

and insistence on red lipstick…

[chuckles]

Like, "I've got to keep my lips red."

Like, "No matter how I appear, red lips."
Ring any bells?

-Yes.
-[Tyler] Okay. Um…

Do you know,
on your mom's side of the family,

how many siblings are there?

By the time I came along, five were alive.

-Gotcha, five.
-Five siblings.

-Good.
-And the person you whispered

-in my ear…
-[Tyler] Yes.

-…passed on my daughter's birthday.
-[Tyler] Yeah.

-Like a trade.
-[Tyler] I feel like

that is the thing with the date,

sometimes we have
a date having dual significance.

But, it also is November,

I wonder if that was peaking in,
because it is an acknowledgment with that.

Give me one minute there.

I'm going to hand this back.
We are going to keep it going.

And then I need to figure out
where we are.

When we talk about the objects
related to the Bible,

any questions related to that
person that you're curious about?

Anything unresolved?

Anything at all?

No.

[Tyler] Good. That's what we like to hear.
[chuckles]

[Stephanie] That's my sister. No.

-I feel like--
-[Tyler] Yeah. I feel levity

-and joy.
-[Stephanie] That was her--

A sense-- It's interesting, she comes
across almost as a spiritual being

-in life.
-[Stephanie] Yes.

And she had a quality about her
that reminds me of an old soul…

-Yeah.
-[Tyler] … or people who have…

spiritual things and don't know how to
articulate or contextualize them.

But, she wouldn't surprise me
if she had visions,

a connection to a higher power,
because she's here for a good time,

not necessarily
for forever, a long time, right?

And it's like…

I'm meant to do this.

-[Stephanie exclaims]
-But it comes in.

[Tyler] So, that lady pops in.

[Adriane laughs]

-You understand that sentiment?
-I understand too well. [laughs]

Sometimes people refer to things,
conversations get brought up.

She's interesting but very, very
much transcendent.

And very much at peace.

Um, I want to focus,
we'll go across the board.

I keep getting pulled to you, and to you.

You have like, floodgates,
but they are holding off

because we are on camera,
which is interesting.

-[Adriene] Oh, wow.
-Kind of unusual.

Sometimes the environment will affect…

I think I have some family members

that would probably not want to hear
a lot of truths.

[Stephanie & Tyler laughing]

-[Tyler] It's true for us all.
-Not the ones that passed,

but those that are here
and that's the hesitation.

-Is it a good way of saying that?
-In a way.

-[Tyler] Yeah.
-I'm a person who speaks the truth

-so you can speak the truth to me.
-[Tyler] Absolutely.

-No whispering girl?
-That's right.

Funny you say that, I wanna focus on that.

If that's okay?
Can we try to see if anything pops up?

-I would love to hold onto…
-Oh.

…the object, our holder of a passport.
[chuckles]

All right, I'm going to look here.

Then I'll go there. Then talk about
dad's side of the family and then…

Uh… [scatting]

Okay, who is that?

Two deaths… 20…
On your dad's side of the family,

it's good to keep in mind,
check if anyone,

potentially unrelated to him but
biologically related,

if there were any deaths since 2020?

It's 2024, obviously.

They're bringing up him but
also highlighting passing since 2020.

Do you know of any deaths since 2020?

There might have been, his brother.

Do you know of alcoholism
on that side of the family?

Oh, God. Yes.

It's all good
but the way this comes across is,

they're having me talk about…

-Some just like the flavor of alcohol,
-Right.

[Adriane] I know but it is coming across
as a thing.

Talking about generational impacts,
just this feeling of like,

and it's just good to look into,

if there's two brothers,
one brother was able to get it together

-and the other struggled a bit more.
-[Adriane] Yeah.

We'll talk about the alcohol,
it's the way it comes across.

Good to take note of.

-That's nice.
-Do you know of any visits to Texas?

Trips to Texas, any Texas connections?

-Possibly with that one.
-[Tyler] Okay.

-He was all over the place.
-[Tyler] Love it.

-Within his side…
-[Amanda] The passport case.

-Exactly.
-No, no. That one's my dad.

-[Amanda] Oh, okay.
-But the other one, that was.

-Okay.
-I have to highlight,

when people serve in the military

and sometimes they give you
the flag after?

-Yeah.
-Do you know of any military honors?

Do you know of anyone in the family
who was honored?

My dad was honored, but he was a doctor,

so he was honored
to sort of go and then stay.

You have to have
a certain amount of doctors.

-Yeah.
-So he got an honorary discharge.

Wow. Got you.

He was very proud of it though.

I know that sounds so real.

-[Tyler] We all find… Yes.
-He would tell the stories at dinner

about this honorary discharge
where he had gone to go serve.

And then they were like, "We need you
in your neighborhood, so forget it."

And they gave him the paperwork.
You're an honorary…

He was like… and so he hung it up.
I'm like, "You never did anything."

-It's adorable.
-I know.

You know what?
It took him where he was meant to be.

-Not truly.
-It comes up.

-[Adriane] Here I am.
-Yes.

Exactly.

[all laughing]

That is so funny.

I have to highlight when we talk about him
and his side of the family.

This is an interesting thing.

He is having me bring up
a lot of feelings of pride.

But in an interesting context.

There is a sense of respect,
pride, dignity.

Having respect, pride, and dignity.

Very much about those values and virtues.

What's interesting is he didn't want
people to visit him in some instances.

This is good to keep in mind.

There's this feeling that

if people won't be able to see me
in the way they know me,

I'm hesitant for them to see me
in a much larger context.

So the way that I would word this,

this, he is bringing me…

Why in the world?

I'll ask,
do you know if there was any decline

in any of his senses towards the
towards the end of his life?

So reduction in vision,
problems with how I see things?

I mean, degeneration of his cerebellum.

-[Tyler] Gotcha.
-He just couldn't really speak

-or do anything, really.
-[Tyler] Gotcha.

Do you know, when we talk about…

it's hard to explain,
but I'm seeing mouth dryness.

It's weird.
I have to highlight wanting to put…

-Yeah.
-…these things.

I want a drink of water
but I don't know if I can take the drink.

There's also aspects of feeling
like my senses are declining.

It's just kind of a very unusual thing.

There is an acknowledgment--

Oh, I just got switched.

Switched.

Give me one second, we've got him.

Do you know who has gone through…

How long ago did he pass away?

-He died 27 years ago.
-[Tyler] Okay.

But he did guy from what you are saying,
where he couldn't swallow.

-[Tyler] Gotcha.
-Because he couldn't… Yeah.

I'm so sorry.

These validations are just acknowledgments
of what they went through.

They are much more than that.

-Yeah.
-[Tyler] That is the greater point here.

We are so much more
than what we go through.

But he is giving me…

Okay…

Mm, mm, mm [sucks teeth].

Do you know if anybody went
through a divorce after he passed?

-I did.
-[Stephanie] Yeah.

[Tyler] I was like, "Fair."

-The reason I ask, 'cause he's joking…
-Thank God.

This comes across as,

"Gonna keep mine,
so I'll let you go."

I have to be so conscientious
of how I articulate this.

But the message was,
give it to you real.

-Okay?
-Okay.

When he comes across, he gives
a sense of amusement, of…

"He's not good enough
for my daughter."

-Oh, thank God.
-And this feeling of "See, I told…"

Like, the sense of, "See? See?"

But it basically acknowledges

someone having to deal
with grief and divorce

or the dissolution of a relationship
and having to weigh both of those

really difficult life experiences.

But there's a sense of,
"I don't like it more."

"I don't know.
I feel very much like it is what it is."

[all chuckling]

-"Goodbye."
-Toodles.

But again, all very happy
and very sweet in the way this comes

and just very much dignity, respect.

-And I love that.
-[Phaedra] Aw.

Um, how long ago
did that relationship end?

I'm so sorry. How long between when
he passed and the relationship ending?

Not fast enough. Let me think.

-[Phaedra exclaiming]
-[all laughing]

-Enough.
-That's okay.

Probably, I think it was…

Gosh, 13 or…
13 years of… Yeah.

Gotcha. Did you…

Did you ever know
how he felt about… the guy?

My father was that guy
that sort of he wanted

to support no matter what
and tried not to pass judgment.

And as you said, he was
the most ethical man you could imagine.

-Always trying to… Um…
-Yeah.

-But, boy, I wish he spoke up.
-Yeah.

He is today.
He's letting you know today. [laughs]

[Tyler] I'm, like, knowing…

-Come on, Zack.
-We could do better.

There's this feeling, truly, though,
of having to navigate

two griefs in two different ways.

-[Adriane] Yeah.
-Even if they're separated by time.

It's a sense of, "If I were here
to help you navigate this…"

-And that does come across.
-Yeah.

Do you know… Okay, this is…

I'm gonna really quickly go further.

Hold on. I'm sweating. Um…

Do we know…

Ooh, something else just hit me.
I'm gonna hand that back.

My guy here…

Oh, he's got pulled into
a completely different area.

We're gonna get
to the bottom of this.

My guy here is showing me
the shoes. It's so funny.

"I feel cool. I feel fly."

"I feel fabulous."

"Show me Eddie Murphy,"
which is funny.

When people are funny, from SNL,
Eddie Murphy, those old skits.

It's kind of funny.

I don't know what this is,
but I come across like him.

"I wanted to cut up.
I wanted to be funny."

Let me look here.

Let me talk about our guy.

How old was he when he passed?

-My son?
-Yeah.

-Twenty-two.
-[Tyler] Twenty-two.

I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry. I need you to know,
and the way this comes across,

he's giving me this sense of exuberance.

He's having me talk about his name,
an emphasis on his name.

And he has me acknowledge
an awareness of this continuing on.

This is just good to keep in mind,
whether it has or will be.

There's a sense of,
"My name continuing on. My name."

-He named himself Keyes.
-Oh.

-Yeah.
-And when he comes across,

he's having me talk
about a bit of a funny situation.

He was honored.

Do you know if anybody sung
at a memorial or at his funeral?

-He did his own memorial on his song.
-[Tyler] Yeah.

-But, like, a…
-[Tyler] Yeah.

On the thing, he always, at the end,
he said it was a tragic comedy.

Yeah, it's like Shakespearean.
It's interesting, yeah.

We talk about Shakespeare's
tragedies, comedies.

It very much comes in as a sense
of the musical component.

He's having me highlight…

"You see my guy…" Oh.

He tried to come through
right after he passed in a dream.

Real brief. Do you know
if anybody dreamt of him after?

Yeah.

Kind of just some surprising people too.

Some of the people who would have
expected to dream of him, [chuckles]

They're like, "Where is he?"

And then other people got

some of those visitations,
but they're very real.

-Yeah, my wife. My wife always…
-[Tyler] Yeah.

-Gets those feelings.
-[Genard] Yeah.

-Still, to this day, she does?
-[Genard] Mm-hmm.

It's very, very sweet,
and the way this comes in, "my guy…"

"My guy." I gotta figure out.
What is this?

He's having me highlight,
when it comes to his passing,

an aspect of, "Rush, rush, rush."
This is just good to keep in mind.

He didn't want a big hubbub.

He comes across, and he has this feeling
of, "There's no hurry."

"There's no hurry. It's okay."
I have to figure out where we're going.

Do you know… We talk about him,
when he was with us.

Do you remember any conversations
of excitement around any cars, vehicles?

Anything that he would have been like,
"Whoo!"

[chuckles]

Like, "I'm proud of this."
He's just coming in.

He used to drive
my grandmama car all the time,

and he thought that was
something special.

It's funny, and the way
this comes through,

it's like, "They see me rollin',

-like, rollin' down the street."
-[all laughing]

[Tyler] Like, "They're hatin', like,
see me ridin' dirty."

That kind of feeling,
the way he comes in.

Funny, a sense of humor.

And it kind of comes in as,
it's really…

He made a video like that.

-Did he?
-[Amanda] Are you kidding me?

[laughing]

That's probably why it's being referenced.
It's just funny and lighthearted.

He comes across and…

He just brings up, for whatever reason,
whatever happened to him,

he's having me talk
about wanting to make sure

that "If I'm gonna stick around,
I have the brain health for this."

And the only way to describe this is,

he gives me the sense of,
with his passing,

that he basically passed,
came back and then passed.

Mmm.

[Tyler] I wouldn't say that
if I weren't certain.

There's a feeling in the way
this comes through of him,

in his situation, I feel like

there's a sense of either,
"My heart stops or I pass briefly."

"I feel like I do come back very briefly."

"And then I feel like I make
my final transition."

This back and forth seems to indicate

that he got a sense of peace
in knowing what was going to come.

When he would have gone through
that initial lapse in unconsciousness.

So it wouldn't surprise me
if he came close to basically passing,

was brought back or came back
and then ended up kind of passing fully.

And that allowed for him
to know it was going to be okay.

It was going to be okay
to be able to continue,

and that there was
nothing to be afraid of.

I don't know why he put such an emphasis
on brain, brain health, "my brain."

"My brain has to work,
or there's no me here."

So usually that's a unique area.
"Brain, brain, brain."

What did he pass away of, technically?

Well, when he died,
he was brain dead.

-[Tyler] Gotcha. I'm so sorry.
-And had…

-Going to pull the plug.
-[Tyler] Yeah.

He highlights the last
three days of his life.

It puts a strong emphasis there.

Do you know when we talk about
conversations of being an organ donor?

Do you know if there were conversations
around whether to or to not?

-I don't know.
-Yeah.

There's a sense of leaving the body be,

and I'll let you know
and the way this comes through.

If people didn't want to do an autopsy,

wanted to leave the body
like just as it is.

There's this feeling of people
going to bat for me.

"Leave the body, leave it as it is,
in a sense of peace,"

in the way that this comes through.

Tyler, I'm gonna let you keep going.

-That was so special today, Tyler.
-That went by so fast.

Yeah, that did go by really, really fast.

We'll be back, though, next week live

with another new
and very exciting celebrity.

So see you on the other side.

[Tyler] My goodness, you guys.

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