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[theme music playing]

Okay, guys, we are ready for you on set.

-All right.
-All right, let's do this.

-Tyler, we are live…
-Yes!

…on Netflix,
and just beyond those studio doors

is the guest that you
will be reading today.

How are you feeling? Are you ready?
Are you nervous? What's going on?

I'm ready.
I'm ready to knock it out.

I have one person coming through
for two people at least.

-So…
-All right, well let's do this.

-All right, I'll see you out there.
-See you out there.

[Tyler] My name is Tyler Henry,
and I have a rather unusual ability.

I don't exactly see dead people,
but I definitely communicate with them.

I receive messages from those
who've passed for those still here,

proving our loved ones
never truly leave us.

I don't know who I'm going to read
or what messages may come through,

but powerful revelations await
from the other side.

This is
Live from the Other Side with Tyler Henry.

Sitting behind me,
a celebrity and their loved ones,

and they're about to get a reading
from the world's most renowned medium,

Tyler Henry.

Hi, I'm Amanda Kloots.

And as always, Tyler has
no idea who he's going to read,

and we'll meet them all for the first time
live in just a few seconds.

So let's do this. Tyler.

All right. Hello, Amanda.
Hello, everybody. [chuckles]

-[Ricki] Hi.
-[gasps] Huh? Oh my goodness!

Ricki Lake! No way.
It's such an honor to meet you.

-[Ricki] Pleasure.
-How are you?

-Awesome.
-Great to see you.

-How are you?
-Hi, I'm good.

Wonderful to meet you.

-Hi. How are you? Nice to meet you.
-Oh, it's so good to see you.

Thank you so much for coming.
And how are you?

Oh my God, I love the outfit.
Looking fabulous. "Lady in red."

-[laughter]
-[speaks indistinctly]

-Amanda, great to see you. Thank you for--
-Hello! All right.

Well, as always, we have Tyler's mom,
Theresa, joining us today.

-Hello, Theresa.
-(MOUTHS) I love you.

We grew up together.

Oh my goodness.
You truly are my Oprah.

I have to tell you, my mom and I
used to tune in and watch your show,

and you had such groundbreaking,
necessary conversations.

Oh, my gosh.
It's already so much fun here.

-[Tyler] Yes!
-[guests laughing]

I'm excited to get to connect today,
and I'm so glad you brought everybody.

-[Ricki] Thank you so much.
-I'm-- I'm looking forward to connecting.

So, Amanda, do you want to
give me the lay of the land?

Thank you for being with us today.
We are so happy to have you here,

and we would love to know
who your guests are and how you know them.

Okay, so this is my beloved husband,
Ross…

-[Tyler whispers] Hi, Ross.
-[Ricki] …Burningham.

-[Tyler] Amazing.
-My dear friend, Rachael Harris.

-You may recognize her.
-[Tyler] Yes.

And my dear friend, John Bonny.

-And my dear friend, Bethany Daley.
-[Tyler] Amazing.

Well, we got everybody in the house.

And it's so nice to be able to have
friends and family to be able to support.

And regardless of what comes through,

we'll just kind of navigate
the connections that come in.

And I'll relay as much as I can today.

-[Ricki] Amazing.
-All right. Well,

I have my notebook here,
and basically I scribble.

And scribbling is just kind
of my way of turning on.

And then as I do, I just kind
of go with the strongest impression.

So, we usually have people coming
and wanting to hear from specific people.

And they might come through,
they might not.

I just kind of allow for anyone
to make a connection that might be there.

Throughout this reading today,
there will be references to living people,

and people who have passed.
So if I say a name and you're like…

"They're not dead.
Better call to make sure."

They're probably still alive. It's fine.
It just sometimes comes in as far

as references of people
they want to talk about.

Um, and then as far as the meat
and potatoes of a reading for me,

it's really those validating specifics.

It's the innermost thoughts,
recent conversations, family dynamics.

Um, all of those things
often come through and are reflected.

And sometimes they're really random.
Usually those are the best ones,

the kind of strangest things
that kind of come out of my mouth.

So, with that said, you know,

I like to go into it
the less I know the better.

Okay.

Obviously, in recognizing you,
I do know that your husband has passed.

I don't recall how, but I do know that.

And I just want to let you know,
I was fully aware of that going into this

as we, uh, recognize…

My new husband hasn't passed.

-That's right. He's still very much…
-[Amanda] He's very much alive.

[Tyler] …here and with us.
And I'm so glad about it.

I always like to give disclosure.

If I know something
when I recognize you, I'll let you know.

So we'll see if we can make
a connection there,

but we'll just kind of let anything
pop in as far as where that goes.

And what I'll do first
is I'll actually hold onto some objects.

So I'll start with that,
and we'll kind of go from there.

I love that. Okay.

Give me one sec.

All right.

About four different people
we're going to talk about at least.

But I'm going to give that to you.

And then did you bring
any objects today, Ross? Amazing.

[clicks tongue] Thank you so much.

[Amanda] And Tyler,
when you're holding these objects…

-Yes.
-…what are you feeling?

Well, it's really kind of picking up
on any intention behind the object.

You know, the people who come,
they know who they're hoping to hear from.

And these objects just kind
of represent those individuals.

So it just gives me something to focus on.

And we'll kind of go from there.

All right, I'll hand then back to you,
and then I'll start with you two,

and then we'll kind
of expand our way that direction.

Um, as this comes in…
I have to figure out where to start.

I have a lot of older people
coming in initially,

which is always a good sign.

It means we're gonna have some strong,
supportive people who were established,

but we're gonna talk
about younger stuff as well.

So give me one sec.

Oddly enough, I'm going to you.
This is kind of funny.

I'm-- I'm going straight to you.

This is such a random thing,
but could be totally wrong.

I keep getting reference to like,

an Ethel or an "E" female name
that sounds like Ethel to me.

It's kinda the only way I can describe it.

-It's Ethel. It's my grandmother.
-[Tyler] So-- Okay.

-[gasps, laughs]
-[Tyler] That would connect there.

-Yeah.
-[Tyler] Awesome.

-Great.
-Oh my gosh.

[Tyler]
That might be one connection that we make.

-Is she in the tissue box?
-[guests laughing]

Looks like Ricki's gonna start crying.

Oh, not yet, not yet, but I'll get there.

Bethany's ready. She's like,
"I'm here, I got it." [laughs]

[Tyler]
I-- I have to highlight that individual.

And there's just a sense
in the way this comes through

of wanting to acknowledge
a number of different things.

I have to highlight a male counterpart
in some capacity, but I want to ask--

This is kind of a random question, um…

I keep having acknowledgements
around where I would bring up

like an uncle,
but then I also have to talk

about cousins within family
who have passed.

And if I go there, and please know,

I only want you to share what
you're comfortable with here,

but I have to highlight this kind
of tragic situation within family.

And they're having me talk
about uncle and uncle's son.

So for one, do you have any uncles?

-I have lots of uncles.
-[Tyler] Okay.

-Do you have any that are passed?
-Yes.

-[Tyler] Okay, do any of them have a son?
-Yes.

I know this is a weird question,
but did any of your uncles pass

-and then son also passed of that uncle?
-Yes. Yes.

-[gasps, laughs]
-[Tyler] I have to highlight a situation--

This is so random, but I have
to talk about people making decisions

-around Church, whether to stay in Church…
-Wow. [chuckles]

[Tyler] …whether to stay
in a congregation or leave.

And there's a feeling
of not wanting there to be any guilt

about someone being like,

"Eh, this doesn't really fit
my lifestyle anymore so much."

[inhales] And that aspect comes in.

So they're very encouraging
in the way that that pops through.

But there's some kind of religious,
I don't want to call it trauma,

but some stuff that was not
discussed across generations

that kind of built up
and built up and built up.

And there's just a sense
of freedom from that that comes…

-Thank you.
-[Tyler] Does that make sense?

-Absolutely. 100%.
-[Tyler] Awesome.

[Tyler] Okay, very cool.
So we'll touch more on that.

We'll go all across the board.

But that's one of the
kind of interesting things because,

um-- and without giving too much away,

do you know of any
mental health components

-on that side of family? Okay.
-Yes.

It just comes in-- It comes in as a…

a sense of heaviness,
but one that they are free of.

-I always want to make that distinction…
-Thank you.

-Thank you.
-[Tyler] …that how someone presents

at the end of their life does not
define the entirety of-- of who they are.

Um…

And really quick, you guys
all kind of must know what's going on,

'cause it seemed like
everyone was supporting Ross

in what Tyler was saying.

-I mean, I know.
-[Tyler] Yes.

I don't know what uncle,
I don't know the names,

-but do you want to elaborate?
-Yeah.

Um, sure. I know I came
from a big Mormon family

of lots of aunts and lots of uncles

and, um…

recently left the Church myself
and had to, you know,

deal with that trauma
of leaving and the separation.

-Um… And so that's beautiful.
-[Amanda] Wow.

Thank you. Well, I'm so glad
that this message comes in.

It's just a sense of
like wanting to free you up.

-There's just a sense of…
-Yeah.

…you are on the right path,
you're doing the right thing.

And I think sometimes these readings
can benefit in the sense

of just providing affirmation…

-[Ricki] Totally.
-…you know, that we're on the path

that we are meant to be.

And those difficult decisions
they're aware of, you know?

So that seems like a very important thing.

I'm gonna expand my repertoire
and I'm gonna go back to you.

I'm just gonna kind of see,

'cause I'm getting pulled in a couple
of different directions. [inhales]

Uh. Okay, two things.

One, so I have two ladies coming
through who both passed away

before their husbands.

So one would be hitting me closer here,

and we'll figure out
if that even makes sense.

But then over here,

if you guys can take a minute
to think about your families,

any situation where, like,
Grandma died before Grandpa?

-I have to highlight that.
-Yes.

-[Tyler] Does that connect for you?
-Yes, 100%.

So what's happening is I have two people
with very similar situations.

I have this lady who comes in
and basically acknowledges passing.

Usually men die first
'cause they're ornery.

-[guests laughing]
-But in this case,

the lady passed away
and so it's kind of a unique thing

and I have to highlight her.
I also have to bring up

-a similarity within your family as well…
-Yes, my--

-My grandma. Mm-hmm.
-So do you also have that situation?

So they're linking up and I just need you
to know in the way this comes through--

This is gonna sound a little odd.

But when we talk
about grandma-related stuff--

I feel like when we talk about
career advancements, taking risks,

being at a crossroads--
This is just good to keep in mind.

If there's anything in the coming year
that you're kind of nervous about

or excited about, not sure
how this is going to, like, take off.

I don't know else how to describe it,
but to tell you to make the leap,

it's gonna be fine, do it.

You have the confidence to do this.

-[John chuckles]
-[Tyler] And other people might tell you

you can do it,
but you might be the only person

to not think, you know,
"Oh God, I don't know if I can do this."

Really accurate. [laughs]

So that comes in and that is basically,

I feel them on the other side,
kind of going, "Do it."

-"You're more capable than you realize."
-[John laughing]

You've got this. People see it around you.

It's just we got to have you
see it yourself.

-So, very exciting, very positive.
-Yeah.

But please know it comes in
like there's so much belief in you

from those people

and particularly in the way
this comes in generations back.

[Amanda]
John, you're tearing up a little bit.

Can you tell us why
that means a lot to you to hear?

My grandmother
was the closest person to me.

I was with her when she died,
and she grew up on a farm,

and that's very much part

of my next step in my life
is creating a learning center,

a place where people
can connect with each other,

disconnect from technology,
and I've been pulling on

my ancestors' energy
and tapping into this for a while.

So it's nice to know
that she's been in my--

she's always been in my corner,

but to hear from her today
is just really amazing.

[Amanda] That's, like, a huge validation.

-[John] Huge validation, yeah.
-Wow.

[Tyler] And I just have to let you know,
in the way this comes across--

It's funny, I live
near a place called Camp Wildwood,

which is in Topanga, which…
Now everybody knows where I live!

-[all laughing]
-All right! [grunts]

-But I will say this.
-[Amanda] This is live, Tyler.

[Tyler] This is live. No editing.

-Now I'm really sweating.
-We can't edit that out, you know?

Exactly. There-- I--

I am seeing just basically, like,
in the way this comes across symbolically,

-it's kind of continuing the legacy…
-[John] Yes.

[Tyler]
…and a feeling of an awareness of this.

And then I just want to kind of shift
'cause there's a bunch popping in.

[inhales] Where am I going? Um…

Okay, I've got that.

And then I am going to you
really quickly if you don't mind.

-Can I hold on to any of your objects?
-[Bethany] Mm-hmm.

Just really fast, we'll see there,

and sorry
if I get pulled around a little bit.

Let's look and see
where we're going there.

In your family, do you know
of any men with the same name?

Like someone named
after someone else that would be male?

Yes.

[Tyler] Okay, which side of family
would that fall onto?

-Well, they can be middle names?
-Yeah, totally fine.

It's just like one,
only one that I can think of,

like that pops in.

Men who have men’s names,
well, there's a couple,

-like yeah.
-[Tyler] Okay.

So a lot of my family
it's like the middle name

-of the cousins or the--
-[Tyler] Gotcha.

-Yeah.
-Do you attribute that more to one side

or the other or is it both sides

-that sometimes can make it tricky?
-One side.

Okay, so that would be
the side I'm going to.

-The way this comes in.
-Yeah.

And that's kind of where
I have to highlight.

I have to bring up
this kind of interesting situation

where within connected family
there's a sense of, um…

two things.

This is a wallet, and this is
gonna sound kind of interesting.

-This is a wallet, right?
-[Bethany] Yeah.

I don't know how to explain this,
but when I open this, there's a sense

that there should have been
something in it that wasn't there

or was missing.

[clicks tongue] Remember
that I'm saying this

if this doesn't click right now.

If you can remember
what would have been in this

and we would have,
like, expected there to be something

like a specific card

or an ID and it's just not there,
remember that I'm saying that.

It's like someone discovers this

and is like, "Oh, that one thing is gone."

I can't make it fit,

-but it just keeps popping in.
-Okay.

So good to know
that we can account for everything

-in this as far as we know?
-[Bethany] Yeah.

Okay, good. [chuckles]

I wanna bring up, do you know,
when we talk about self-employment,

any connections there?

-[Bethany] Yes.
-[Tyler] Okay.

Um, was-- If we talk about
any males that are self-employed--

I'm sorry, my sweat
is like flying everywhere.

Do you know many men, um,
that were self-employed

or worked as, like,
independent contractors in any capacity?

-I mean, I am, but not the men.
-[Tyler] Okay, not the men?

-No.
-Got it. Okay.

So when we talk about kind of
like how we expand career expansion,

they keep giving me this acknowledgement
of trying to figure out how a parent--

Oh, I have to talk
about parent-child relationships.

Give me one sec.

That is very interesting.
I'm gonna take a quick…

Down here.

Out of curiosity,
who are these objects for?

Like, connected to?

-My father, the wallet.
-[Tyler] Okay.

And my grandmother, the wedding ring.

This is interesting. [exhales]

I have to talk about parent--
and the reason I ask is

because I suspected
there's a parent situation,

but when we talk about other parent,

they're having me highlight
that relationship,

so, um-- and putting
a very strong emphasis

on that living relationship,

and the only way I would
word this is there's just this sense

of doing what we have
to do to maintain peace.

Um, and that comes in.

There might be a situation,

and again, this might
sound so left-field right now,

but you might find yourself
kind of being in the middle

of a family situation and having
to kind of mediate in some way.

So it's like,
this person has this preference,

this person has this preference.

I'm in a rock and a hard place
because either way,

I'm gonna kind of bum--
bum someone out. [laughs]

And it's kind of the feeling
that comes through.

So just please know if you find yourself
in that situation, it's all good.

It feels fine, but it keeps coming through
over and over again.

Are there anything--
anything you've had to mediate

to the best of your knowledge

or any positions you've been
in the middle of as it relates to Mom?

Not mediate, no.

She's in the middle,
so she would still be with us.

-Yeah, she's still with us.
-Whereabouts is she living currently?

-In Massachusetts.
-[Tyler] Okay.

-Yeah.
-[Tyler] Do you have any siblings?

-I do.
-Do you know if any are living near her?

-Yep, two. Yeah.
-Okay.

So would one be taking
care of her or be the person

that would be more closer?

-I mean, both are.
-[Tyler] Okay.

-Yeah.
-[Tyler] Gotcha.

I have to highlight mediation.
This is kind of coming through,

and it relates to siblings,
and then the parent.

-[Bethany] Okay.
-[Tyler] So…

the only way to really
word that is when we talk about

like how Mom gets taken care of,

you might end up having
to make decisions with siblings…

-Mm-hmm.
-[Tyler] …but I'm seeing mediation.

So, if like Mom
does not wanna do something

and sister thinks,
"Oh, this is better for her."

And we know that
and we might agree with Sister,

but Mom doesn't see it that way.

I'm seeing mediation.
It just keeps coming through.

-Okay. Yeah.
-So, could that potentially

connect in any way?

-I mean, yeah. Yeah.
-[Tyler] Okay. Yeah.

There's a couple things
that kind of come in.

Where would there be a Jan?

So, there's-- Could it be Jane?

-Perhaps, first three letters, maybe.
-[Bethany] Yeah.

-I have a Jan. Yeah.
-You have a Jan? All right.

But the Jane thing,
where does that bring me?

-[Ricki laughing]
-Mom's sister.

-[Tyler] Mom's sister, that's okay.
-Yeah.

Do you know of any situations
in your family where, um…

Do you know of anybody in their sixties
who would have passed away within family?

-[hesitates] Fifty, not 60.
-[Tyler] Sixty.

So, for sure sixties,
we're going to Mom's side of family.

-Okay, Mom's side are the sixties.
-Not Dad's, Dad's has a fifties.

-[chuckles]
-Yeah, so 60, no.

Where's the four siblings
on your mom's side?

So Mom has two sisters.

[Tyler] Okay, got it.
And then no brothers?

-[Bethany] No brothers.
-Okay.

-Oh, had a brother…
-[Tyler] Yeah.

-…who was a baby and passed away.
-[Tyler] Passed away.

So, there's the four.

Just take this information
I'm looking into.

-It's connected to those four up here.
-[Bethany] Okay.

-It's kind of where I'm doing that.
-Got it.

[Tyler] But just keep in mind
in the way this comes across,

keep in mind any men
who might have had susceptibilities

to like any blood vessels bursting,

any events
that basically would be like quick.

-Yep.
-[Tyler] There's an acknowledgement there.

The way that I would describe this
is a sense of, "I'm here and I'm gone."

And that's really
the feeling that comes through.

Sometimes I have situations
where people go through a long decline,

-and I'm not getting that feeling.
-Okay.

There's the sense of.
"I want to live in my own terms,

I want to do my own thing, and if I can't,
then I don't want to be here."

So very practical.

This guy comes
across very like matter of fact.

Quite surprised that this is real,
actually, I might even add.

Is that a living person
that you're talking about right now?

It's coming in
as an acknowledgement of health care,

stubbornness, but I'm like seeing it,

the way this comes in,
and it's frustrating.

Then fast situation…
[snapping fingers]

-…quickness.
-Got it.

Just out of curiosity, 'cause
I don't know if this applies to this,

but how did Dad pass?

-Um. Sudden heart attack.
-[Tyler] Gotcha.

So that's kind of where I'm inclined to go

'cause there's this feeling of
"Bam, bam, here, gone,"

not being able
to really kind of resolve things fully

-or work things out.
-Yeah.

[Tyler] And then do you know
on Dad's side of family,

just really quickly, if he had actually
any living older family members

than him when he died.

-So, do you know if there--?
-He does have, yeah, yeah.

'Cause there's this feeling
of "I outlive, like, a generation

at least above me."

And there's a sense of this person
getting old and having to look

at the younger generations
that didn't make it.

Yeah.

Kind of the natural order of things.
Feels really fine.

One name that is pretty common
that does come in,

it's just good to look into,

it's generally who they are--
who they're with.

Remember that I'm saying Michael,
the name Michael…

-Yeah. Okay.
-…comes in really clearly.

-Do you relate to that at all?
-That's my brother.

-[Rachael] Woah.
-[Tyler] That's your brother. Amazing.

So it's just a way of acknowledging
who they are, who they're with,

how they're connected.

Just wish you were good at this.

-[Tyler] I know. [laughs]
-[guests laughing]

Right? I feel like,
"Oh, I'm a really good guesser,

let me tell you."

Bethany, was Michael one of the siblings
that lives by your mom?

-[Bethany] Yeah.
-[Tyler] Oh, cool.

-Nice.
-[Rachael] Oh, wow.

And I just kinda have to go with where
the breadcrumbs lead intuitively.

It's very possible there might be
a situation where we kind of have

to mediate in some way
with siblings and the mom.

-Got it.
-All good. And that comes in there.

I'm going to hand this back
to you across the…

The way…

I'm gonna-- I wanna connect right here.

And then, Ricki,
I'm saving the best for last.

-[Ricki] Oh, boy.
-Okay.

I just want to make sure I can try
to connect to the best.

Do you feel like you sweat

because there's so many things
coming into you?

There's a lot of excitement around you,

-which is actually really good.
-Oh.

-[Tyler] Did you bring any objects today?
-I did. Yeah.

-I brought…
-Let's touch them.

-[laughs]
-Aw.

-Aw. Amazing.
-I brought this, and then I brought this.

I don't know if you want me

-to tell you about it? No.
-Yeah, the less I know,

the better, 'cause, hey,

-we'll just see what pops in.
-[Rachael laughs]

Yeah. Stop talking.

-[laughs]
-[guests laughing]

It's all good. Some people are like,

"I can't wait to hear from
my grandma named Loraine

who died of breast cancer."

guests laughing]

Got my work cut out for me now.

-[guests laughing]
-[Tyler] All right.

Hey, look, so this is kind of interesting
that-- strangely enough,

two people are coming through,
not just one, so my natural question

with this would be with these objects,
is it connected to one person

-or two people two people?
-Two people.

Okay, so that would be why.

Let me just kind of try
to separate these energies…

[clears throat]

Aw, cute. I just need you to know
in the way this comes across,

there's very much this sense of reunion.

When someone passes and is kind of taken
by another person who also passed

before them,
there's a sense of reuniting, connecting,

like, "I helped this person pass
and I'm already passed."

And there's an acknowledgement of that.

And I need you to know
there's that togetherness

in the way this comes through.

There's a reference
to some difficult situations

in a very short proximity.

So, when we talk about loss, for example,

if we dealt with the death
of a family member,

the death of someone important,
and then within about a two-year period,

we're also dealing
with like another really difficult…

-Yeah.
-[Tyler] …time.

Even separate from that grief.

It's like there's never a good time
to deal with the loss of a loved one,

but it's like
there's other aspects of loss

that are being experienced around that.

And that comes in as kind of interesting.

Let me take this a step further.
Have you been to Malibu lately?

-Yeah.
-[Tyler] Okay.

I just need to bring up,

'cause I'm seeing Malibu.
That looks very nice.

[chuckling] Used to live there.

-[guests chuckling]
-[Tyler] There's a…

Maybe if we get a Season 3,
we can really live there.

-[Amanda] Hey, hey! Hey!
-[guests laughing]

-Put it out there, manifest it.
-Yes, absolutely.

Goodbye, Camp Wildwood. [chuckles]

[Amanda] Tyler, can I ask you a question?

-Yes.
-It was so beautiful.

And Rachael, you had a reaction
to it too about the reuniting.

Like, were you saying like you--

What I understood
is that you saw another person

accept the other person in?

Yes. That is so common.
People never truly go alone,

and this really exemplifies this
in a larger way.

I have to ask, uh,

there's a couple of things
I want to just focus on for you

and it could be separate
from these objects,

but I have to get it out, so…

They're putting
a very strong emphasis on conversations

around mental health, emotional health,
wellness, helping people.

I don't know how else to explain it,

but there's this sense
that these individuals

live on through the work that's going
to be done in bringing awareness

to grief and self-awareness,

and having difficult conversations
that people might not want to have.

I don't know how the heck that will apply,
if it applies at all,

but basically, they're showing me
a symbol of handing you a torch.

And you have this torch
and you're continuing this,

and having conversations, difficult ones,
um, that previous generations didn't have.

And there's something about that
that feels like they find pride

in being able to let go of shame.

-And I don't know how to explain it…
-[Rachael chuckles]

-…but you're going to find that shame…
-Sorry.

[Tyler] …is a big part of
kind of the conversation.

Freeing a person of shame,
freeing individuals of…

of kind of generational trauma,
and being able to call a spade a spade

and it be what it is
and move forward proactively,

but in truth, not obfuscation.

So that's really your role,
largely, in the way this comes in.

-That's crazy.
-[Tyler] I'd love to hear how,

and it wouldn't surprise people
to see you in so many capacities.

Be able to help people,
which is incredible… [chuckles]

…in whatever capacity.

But I want to ask-- So J is

like the most common letter
that people have as far as a name,

but off the top of your head,
do you know of

like, if I say a J name,
do you know of any living or past people

-that would be J?
-Mm-hmm.

Okay, if I said past J,
do you know of any past J's?

-Um, like, that have died?
-[Tyler] That have died, yes.

I, uh… I'm just trying to think.

I don't think I know a past J that's died.

Okay, gotcha.

The reason I ask is,
'cause it's coming left-field for me,

which is different than this.

So I'm just trying to kind of determine
where perhaps it could be.

-But we're gonna look here really fast.
-[chuckles] Okay.

[Tyler exhales] J, J. Um…

Whoa, I just got actually pulled
in a different direction.

You know, I'm gonna give this back to you,

and we will see
if we can connect more in a moment.

I just got pulled a different thing.

So Jan… Jan, Aunt Jan, okay.

I have an Aunt Janet,
so I'm trying to figure out what this is.

I keep seeing her.

Do we know of any Jans
more on this side of the thing?

-[Ricki] Mm-hmm. But alive.
-Okay, alive, gotcha.

The way that I would word this,
they're having me highlight…

family.

Jan, the only way to describe
is I see family over here, you over here.

It's all good.
It just comes across very much that way.

It just is what it is.

And there's a sense of like,
not taking sides,

not needing this to be a big thing.

It's just very much like, it is all good,

and they're proud
of how you've handled things,

and it feels very good
in the way that comes through.

So please know that.

Families evolve, they grow,
some grow together, some grow apart,

but it's just a way
that they come through on the other side

-to say we see it and it's all good.
-Okay.

[Tyler] And that seems kind of significant
in some way for some reason.

Let me look. Puh-puh-puh-puh-puh.
"I love you more, I love you more."

"I love you more."
So this is interesting. This is coming in.

You know when someone says, "I love you,"
and someone says, "I love you more."

It's like, "No, I love you more." [laughs]

I keep getting this
in the way this is coming in.

Did you bring any objects today
from your former partner?

I would love to hold on to one and--

That's what I gave you earlier,
but I have more.

-[all chuckle]
-That's all right. You came prepared.

You know, there's an interesting
medallion-like shape I was seeing.

It was kind of strange.
Was that it? No, you're kidding.

[Ricki] I don't know. You didn't see that.

-Ah. The medallion.
-[Amanda] Woah.

So did our guy used to wear this
around his neck?

He-- Yes, yes, yes.

And I, after he died,
I kept it with that ring.

-[Tyler] Got it.
-So I've kept it in this pouch.

[Tyler] Aw. I love that.

And I have another… this is another thing.

Yes, please. Thank you. That's so sweet.

I love it. Let's give it a shot.
Then we'll see kind of what comes in.

[sighs] We'll go from there. Okay.

So first and foremostly, I wanna highlight
when we talk about family,

it does appear
when we talk about grandparents,

I connect way more
to one side than I do the other.

And that's just good to know.

When we talk
about older women who've passed,

there's this feeling,
I feel like she'd be really old by now,

but I don't know how old she was
when she passed.

There's kind of this feeling of like,

"Well, I should have died
about right now, not when I did."

[laughs]
And there's a kind of sweetness with this.

There is an acknowledgement

of things kind of starting
to go downhill in her fifties.

So when someone turns 50
and then kind of like,

"I feel like I'm going down,"

um, and that aspect comes in,
she bifurcates her kind of struggle,

whatever this was, into two things.
And she's very precise with me.

She's like, "You're gonna do it this way,
Tyler. This, this, and this,"

which I love, but she's kind
of very much separating this battle,

or this situation into two iterations
in some capacity.

Yes, she died
from two different types of cancers.

Gotcha, so that aspect comes in,
and there's a feeling of like,

"I could kind of deal with this first one,
but then the second one, it's like, no,

no go, and don't even want to fight."

"I don't want to put my body
through unnecessary pain."

There may have been a discussion
around the removal of a breast

or a discussion around making
sure something doesn't metastasize

to more like bone and blood.

So kind of that conversation
in some large capacity.

What cancers did she have?

She had breast and lung cancer.
She never smoked, but yes.

-[Tyler] Oh, I'm so sorry.
-She died at 58.

-Wow.
-When I was nine.

-[Tyler] Oh, my goodness. Gotcha.
-So this is your grandma.

Is this the grandma
that Tyler had mentioned earlier?

I think so.

-[Tyler] I think so, too.
-Yes.

Let's look and see if we can go further

and kind of go there
in the way this comes in.

There's a definite sweetness.

There's a funniness around
all shapes and sizes,

people coming
in all shapes and sizes.

-I don't know how else to--
-That could be me.

But she comes across--

She's like,
"There's small things in big packages

and big things in small packages."

I'm talking about like the way
Grandma is coming in.

And there's this sense,
and I need you to know this,

I keep seeing my symbol for a star.

And when I see that, it's always the idea
that somebody saw someone's stardom

-before they ever were a star themselves.
-That's my grandma.

[Tyler] And you need to know that even,
let's say hypothetically,

she didn't get to see any of this, right?

There's a sense of her knowing
you were a star,

that you were destined
for something different

than your sister, I might add.
Do you have a sister?

-Yes, I do.
-[Tyler] Okay.

She knew when it comes to you
that you were different than Sister,

and that you were kind of destined
for greatness in a different way.

But she might have been the--

I don't wanna say the only one who saw it,

but she's the only one
who has this clear vision of like,

"She is a star, damn it,
and everyone needs to know this."

But you made that a reality
for her after she died.

Can you tell us this story?

Grandma Sylvia was the one
who encouraged me.

She brought me to theater
and opera and the ballet

in New York every weekend.

I remember seeing Annie
when I was six years old,

and wanting to do that.
And she told me, "You're the best."

"You're the most talented.
You're the prettiest. You're the…"

You know,
so she instilled in me this belief.

People joke
that I don't have the doubt gene.

I don't doubt myself.
I think I get it from Grandma Sylvia.

And so what you're saying is so,
so accurate.

-[Amanda] I have chills.
-Such a charismatic…

She comes across very intense
in a beautiful way

-and with so much love for you.
-Yes.

It's really interesting.

You know how sometimes grandparents
are able to be closer

to their grandchild in some ways
than even their own child?

There's just kind
of an interesting connection of,

despite not maybe having
the longest time together,

there was something special
in you that she was able to heal.

[smacks lips] Ah!

That, like, kind of goes up
with how she would have raised parents.

-Yes.
-[Tyler] It just comes in.

-It's really, really beautiful.
-[sighs]

[Tyler] I wanna highlight
a number of different things.

She comes in.

Um, there's a dog also
that I need to highlight

that would be significant
that is with them.

This comes in as-- So, two things.

There's a feeling of having to make
a really difficult decision.

"And I don't wanna make this decision,
but I have to."

And that would be impertinence
to the death of an animal.

And then, I also have
to highlight some animal.

I think this might be separate.

I'm talking about, like, a dog
that would snort. [sniffles]

I'm like, I can't like, I'm like,
my friend has a dog named Mookie.

Debra has a dog named Mookie.
And it's a little dog

that like, constantly
has sinus infections and was like…

-[imitates dog snorting]
-[Amanda laughing]

My last husband who passed,
he had a bulldog.

[Tyler] Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

Because I'm wanting
to kind of highlight or connect

in some kind of larger way with this.
[chuckles]

You smell the old dog,
there's like a little thing.

-Yeah, it smells.
-[Tyler] It comes across.

And then I have to highlight this feeling,
and this is just good

to keep in mind, when we connect
with him, more than anything,

I need you to know he's okay.

And that is always
what people want to know.

And I think this information
that comes in,

these random references
that aren't so random,

verify that, of course,
there's a continuation of life.

But I believe if they're able
to come through with these messages,

it shows that they're okay,

that they're not defined at the very least
by that moment of death.

And when he comes in,
there's a sense resoundingly

-of, "I'm so much more than how I went."
-Yes.

[Tyler] He does bring up a couple things.

He is acknowledging three people
who would be below him

that would be generational.

So, he puts two on one side
and one on the other.

And he's having me highlight these three.

But he's very distinctly
kind of separating them,

like, two over here, one over here.
So, with what we know,

does that make sense as far
as who could have been acknowledging?

-I want to bring up before…
-[Amanda inhales]

-Before we get into it.
-[Amanda] Sorry. [laughs]

It's all good. I know there's questions.
I have to highlight this sense

of it's okay if one is over here
and the other two are over here.

And there could be geographical distance.

There could be,
I don't know if I'm not able to see,

like siblings aren't able
to see each other so much.

I don't know what this is, but I'm putting
that one over farther away.

And there's this reassurance
as he gets older,

-there will be, like, a coming back.
-Oh, okay.

[Tyler] I don't know how else
to describe it, but there's this feeling

of, like, getting closer
to someone when they get older.

And it's just like when someone's young,

they just sometimes don't fully have
the wherewithal to fully do everything.

-Okay.
-[Tyler] So, where are the three?

So I would… I'm assuming
it's my two sons and he had a son.

[Tyler] And he had a son. Now, where is--

whereabouts, like, what state
generally would the son be?

His son would probably be in Arizona.

-Okay, and then your sons are…?
-My sons currently live in New York.

Amazing, so they would be
kind of distanced in that capacity.

-[Ricki] Yes.
-[Tyler] There's a feeling of,

if he feels kind of farther
from the family,

there's gonna be opportunities
for him to ask about his dad

and kind of know more.

Now, what comes through very strongly
is acknowledgements around genetics.

and genetic health.

For some reason, when we talk
about health, family-related stuff

with former husband, there's a sense
of looking at his own relationship

with his father and learning a lot,

and realizing that there were
some undiagnosed mental health issues,

that just never,
because of time and different times,

were never fully able
to be conclusively diagnosable.

But there's a thread there,
and that comes in as significant.

He's bringing me up to,
showing me a medallion, which is funny

that you ended up bringing one--
which is a good sign.

But I want to take this a step further.

He brings up the last, kind of,
time before he passed.

There's a sense
of being MIA or going AWOL.

And anytime I get that, it's indicative
that someone just goes missing.

We can't hear from them.
We're like, "Where the heck is he?"

"Did he take off?
Did he get in his car and go somewhere?"

"Where is this?"

And in the way this comes through,
there's this feeling of apology

around this period
of time that we don't know.

"And I'm sorry."
And I just have to describe this.

And I know this is a lot to take in,
but I'm just kind of on a flow now.

There's this feeling of needing you
to know more than anything,

this had nothing to do with you.

This had nothing to do with you
and everything to do with him.

He's showing me this symbology
around feeling kind of socially anxious

and almost paranoid in some capacity

around, like,
"How do I navigate the world?"

"Am I equipped to handle the world?"

"I feel almost hypersensitive,
like I want to shut down."

He's showing me his eyes very clearly
in the way this comes through.

And remember that I'm saying this,
it's almost like, you know

when someone's eyes communicate
what's going on inside?

There's this feeling of you
could just kind of look at him.

I don't know if he would get
a specific look in his eyes

-when he was going through it.
-Yes.

[Tyler] But it's like, I can see this
in you even if you're not saying it,

-and I wanna fix this, but I can't.
-Yes, that is actually--

[Tyler] I need you to know he knows

that you did everything possible
to be able to be there.

And as sad as that situation is,
he comes through quite jovial.

[guests laughing]

[Tyler] And in many ways,
feeling like as he got older,

he's like, "I still feel like a kid
in a lot of ways."

So, that fun-ness and that
kind of childlikeness aspect,

he feels like you were truly the only one
that understood him.

And he needs you to know
that when it comes to the end,

he feels that his role
as a father and his role as a spouse,

-he felt kind of insecure.
-Yes.

[Tyler] And he knows now
that that insecurity

did not define the truth
of that situation.

But towards the end,
he started isolating himself

-from certain females in his life.
-Yes, he did.

And there's just a sense
of, "It isn't their fault."

"They need to know
that this was my thing."

And I just keep hearing,
"I love you more."

Oh, he would say, "I love you too much.
I love you too much."

-Can I ask a question?
-[Tyler] Please do.

Because I have a knowing
that he brought Ross to me.

-Oh, yes, absolutely.
-He did?

I really, truly find, and what's funny,

in our first episode
that we did of the show,

we had the exact same situation
come in, where we had someone,

and it was a parent
that guided a living person

-into a child's life.
-I think I watched it. [laughs]

And so they are instrumental.

I believe that they use synchronicities
or meaningful coincidences

to communicate with us.

And that's really good to keep in mind.

Now that I've said that,
you're going to be like,

-"Oh, that was a sign, wasn't it?
-[guests laughing]

Absolutely. And I can just say,
in the way that this comes across,

there's a very strong acknowledgement
when we talk about being authentic

and true to ourselves.

There's an aspect there for you
of when we talk about leaving,

you know, established Church and,
you know, kind of beating

to our own drum and doing our own thing.

And then you beating
to your own drum and living freely

and being open to who you are.
That transparency is really beautiful.

And they are proud of, kind of,
the breaking of the molds

that's happened
in two very different ways…

-Wow.
-…but you two found each other,

and that comes across.
This is good to keep in mind.

There might end up being a coincidence
where not only do we lose something,

and I'm trying to articulate this
without it sounding concerning.

I think this may have already happened.

If there was a loss of material objects
from both fire and water,

and water though,
that's the kind of weird distinction.

-It's two separate things…
-Okay.

…so we're gonna end up finding
that there's a story

where there was a house fire
or something along those lines,

-[chuckles] …a fire risk…
-There was a house fire.

…but they're separate from that,

and this might end up being
a little bit more pertinent.

We had a really bad storm
and our basement flooded

and it got a bunch of pictures ruined
and we couldn't ever bring them back.

There's just something
about watching water seepage

into a place it shouldn't

-and damaging it.
-Okay.

[Tyler] So, keeping both
of those things in mind.

-Okay. But the fire already happened.
-[Tyler] The fire already happened…

You don't see another fire coming
because I live in Malibu.

-[overlapping chatter]
-I get it.

After ten years,
I feel like they get a big one.

[Ricki] Yeah.

But the kind of emphasis here is
for some reason on water.

-On water.
-Fire and water, we gotta watch it out.

-Okay.
-[Tyler] So…

Ricky, can I just ask
a quick question, Tyler?

-Sorry to interrupt.
-[Tyler] Go ahead.

I feel like so much came through
and so many validations.

How did that make you feel?
'Cause your friends were just, you know.

It's overwhelming,
but it's also so comforting.

'Cause I feel him with me all the time.

I know he and I live this amazing life.
We are so happy.

I know he left.

But he spared me. He didn't leave me.
And he made room for someone who was well.

And, you know, he was very unwell.
And he just loved me so much.

And I just know he is doing his work

and living his best life
in whatever form he's in.

And he's with me always.

Absolutely. I can just say,
you know, I really get the feeling

that you understood him
in a way that a lot of people didn't.

[chuckles]

And he feels
that you had a lot of patience

that other people didn't always have.

And that was one of the greatest gifts
that you gave him, was that patience.

I just need you to know,
more than anything, he comes across,

and there's a lot more of a lightness
than is defined by his passing.

-Thank you. Thank you.
-[Tyler] Yes, of course.

There's a lot to process there.

Let me just double check,

'cause there could be
a couple more things popping in here.

I just want to go--

You said someone wasn't a smoker,
but ended up getting…?

-[Ricki] My Grandma Sylvia.
-Yeah.

Do you know of any smokers in the family?
Separate from Grandma, or no?

She was not a smoker, but no…?

I mean, my mother smoked
and my father smoked,

like, back when it was, you know.
She smoked in her pregnancy with me.

-Uh-oh. That happens.
-[Amanda chuckling]

I feel like everyone
in the '80s, especially,

-that's when a lot of people smoked.
-Oh, that was in the late '60s.

[Tyler] Uh-oh.

-[all laugh]
-[overlapping chatter]

[Tyler] That's funny.

Let me look,
just 'cause there's one other thing

that pops in there.

'Cause I have to highlight Grandpa,
and that's kind of where I'm going.

Just check and see when we talk
about counterpart

to our grandma. [chuckles]

If we look in his family, just check
and see if there were any heavy smokers.

I have to talk about East Coast
when we go there.

I think you did mention earlier,
like, saying theater and stuff.

But I have to highlight this guy.
He comes in, and he's like this. This.

Let me see.

Your-- Oh.

Did your grandmother pass
before your grandpa?

-Yes.
-[Tyler] Okay.

I keep feeling like I was expecting that
to be the other way around,

but it didn't end up going that way.

Do you know of any deaths
in the early '80s…

on that side?

Yeah, I think, well, okay,
my grandfather on my mother's side died,

-he died of AIDS in the '80s…
-In the '80s.

…when I made Hairspray, like during the--
when I was filming the movie, yeah.

He died of a blood transfusion
and he never knew what he died from.

[Tyler] I'm so sorry.

Yeah, because it was at that--
The stigma, you know, at that time.

Of course,
in that time absolutely being huge.

I want to bring up a connection.

There's a joke about somebody
hitting the slots and not telling anyone.

-There's a bit of funniness.
-I could have, yeah.

[Tyler] I'm joking about, well,
it's like gambling comes in.

Yes, yes, yes.

And even if it's like informal,
there's funniness around that.

-Okay, yeah.
-What would that joke be?

Well, it could be,
my father had like a poker game.

I don't know, you know,
like an underground poker game.

-[Tyler] Yeah, yep. It's that.
-But it wasn't a lot of money.

He didn't have a lot of money.

-We're still willing to do them.
-[Ricki] Okay.

But it comes across as like funny.
They're wanting to bring him up.

Is he very, like, logical?

-My dad?
-[Tyler] Yeah.

-He used to be. He's still alive. Yes.
-[Tyler] He's still with us.

Gotcha.
He's kind of going through changes.

I have to highlight, basically,
I don't know how much, basically,

if you were to share this with him,
he would see a ton of value in,

but there's just this feeling
of him doing his own thing

and perhaps just not taking
as good of care as he needs to be

when it comes to self-awareness,
being on top of things.

Do you know if he's discussed
when we talk about retirement?

Oh, no. He's in a board and care.
He's not well.

-[Tyler] Got it.
-He's been retired for a long, long time.

Do we know in the '90s, late '90s,

uh, if anything happened
in career around then?

Well, he was assaulted in the early,
early '90s outside of his business.

Oh my goodness.
So, then when did he retire?

Oh, gosh, probably 15 years ago.

Okay, got it.
I'm so bad at math, so in the early--

Oh, 2010 is when he started
having mental issues.

-[Tyler] Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
-And it was from, he was having the issues

in his brain from the assault
that affected his frontal lobe.

The way this comes through,
basically, symbolically,

is I have to highlight retirement,
catalyst, and then…

[imitates bleep] …and then,
I have to just highlight

when we talk about isolation,
someone being alone,

making sure someone's like being watched
because I feel like if I'm not watched,

-accidents happen.
-Okay.

[Tyler] And that kind of keeps coming in.

And then the secondary thing
that does come through is just good

to keep in mind is making sure
you're staying hydrated enough.

There's a concern around
for some reason like fluid intake.

So, just being mindful of that,

but that's very indicative of the,
you know,

I don't wanna say
the final chapter in our life,

-but our-- the final chapter.
-[Ricki] Yes, okay.

And an awareness of that.

And just when it comes
to like visiting or seeing him,

this is good to keep in mind,
it might be a little tricky.

-Okay.
-[Tyler] There might be some

healthy boundaries that are established.

You can still be helpful
without having to be there.

-Okay.
-And that's good to keep in mind.

And just let go of any feelings

of accountability, responsibility.

Got it. Got it. Thank you.

[Tyler] And that comes in there.
So, that's a lot.

We kind of covered some--
covered people who passed,

-we've covered the living.
-[guests chattering]

-I think we all cried.
-I know.

[Tyler] This is going to just be good
to keep in mind for you too.

Keep in mind, there might end up
being an opportunity

to build like an outdoor space.

And this looks like a tree house,
but it's…

-[exclaims]
-[Amanda] Oh my God.

[Rachael] Don't say anything.
Don't say anything. Don't say anything.

-Okay.
-[Rachael] Don't say anything.

[Ricki] I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[Tyler] Do you see it?
Does that make sense?

[Ross] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.
Yes. Let him finish. Yes.

[overlapping excited chatter]

It sounds like it makes sense.
I'm in suspense.

But I'm basically seeing the building
of what I would view

as like an outdoor space.

But then I feel like
I can kind of, like, do my thing,

and it feels like
I want to take a bong hit in it.

-[group laughs]
-[Amanda] Oh, my gosh.

-We're lighting it, holding it…
-[Amanda] Oh my God.

-What is this?
-[Amanda] Yeah, what is this?

Okay, John, you should say.

We're designing an ADU for the property.
We call it the tree house.

It's got a cuddle puddle,
and we grow cannabis on the property.

-[group laughs]
-Oh, my gosh! [laughs]

[Ricki] It's called Ricki Lake and bake!

[Amanda]
No, it's not! Oh, my gosh. That's cool.

But then also tell them
why you're building it as well.

-I'm sorry?
-For you and Ross.

Yeah, we're building it also
because we wanna die on our property.

And we wanna have an elder care…
Like, we're building

the ADU not for our children
to live there,

but for our elder care nurse
to live there,

and take care of us in our old age.

[Tyler] Whoa! You can just hotbox it,
and go to the library.

-[group laughs]
-"We can just go…"

I would like to know what did you see
in order to get that?

[overlapping chatter]

[Rachael] That's crazy.

[Tyler] And then I'm seeing
what I did ear-- No, I'm just kidding.

[all laughing]

Let me tell you, yeah.

[Rachael]
I was gonna ask you a question.

-Sure.
-It's like, do my--

This is completely off-topic,
but I don't wanna get in the way of this.

[Tyler] No, it's okay.

Do my-- When I--
I talk to my parents a lot.

-[Tyler] Yeah.
-Do they hear me?

[Tyler] Oh, I love that.
You know, I really believe--

-Or do you know?
-I think that they feel our intentions.

And I think intention is really
the kind of basis of prayer

across all religions, right?

And so, I believe that
there's aspects of communion,

and being able to kind of set that,
and have them feel it.

I think that when we transition,

we kind of develop
a more macro understanding,

whereas in life,
we're kind of on the micro.

And so, they feel,
and I think, in essence,

can see different things going on at once.

They kind of have
this elevated perspective, so…

But they can't see me naked
when I'm in the bathroom.

-[Amanda laughs]
-[Tyler] No, they don't care.

I always tell people.

People are worried about
Grandma seeing them shower.

I'm like, "Grandma had to
do a lot more than shower."

[speaks indistinctly]

But I've been asking them
a really specific question,

but nothing came up for you
about that specific question?

[Tyler] Let's look and see.

It looks like we're gonna keep this going
as we are now wrapping up the live,

and you and I will continue talking.

-Absolutely.
-Okay.

-[Tyler] Thank you, guys.
-[Ricki] Thank you.

-Oh, my gosh.
-Thank you so much.

I do wanna ask Rachael one quick question.

You were getting a little teary-eyed
when Tyler was talking about

the mental health. What was that about?
Can you share anything with us?

Yeah, I can, but I don't know
how I'm gonna talk about it.

-[Amanda] Yeah.
-[Tyler] Yeah.

My-- [chuckles] I'm s--
Wow, it's really emotional.

-Yeah.
-My mother was taken.

My mom and her siblings were taken from…

my grandmother
because she had lost her husband

when she was young,
and she became an alcoholic,

and wasn't able to take care of them,

and some pretty gnarly things
happened to them

when they were kids.

And then they were raised
in a Masonic home,

four kids, my mom,
and my aunt, and my uncle, Mac, didn't--

was older and he moved on.

But they… [sobs]

-They had suffered some abuse.
-[Tyler] Yeah.

-And then my mom married very young.
-[Tyler] Yes.

And I always say if our parents had known
how to do it differently… [sobs]

-…they would have.
-[Tyler] Yes.

I've done a lot of work on that
with my own kids.

-[Tyler] Yes.
-And…

-I never wanted to do that to them.
-[Tyler] Yes.

-But I love my parents.
-Absolutely.

I love my mom.

I can tell you that by the impressions
that came through were the awareness

of what you have done
to be able to talk about things

and put things out in the open,
and not allow shame to define our life,

and not allow trauma and abuse to--

And the secrecy behind that
more than anything.

Yeah, absolutely.

What's so beautiful
is you can share in a much larger way.

But there is, you know,
some more discoveries to be found.

-I will say this.
-Okay.

[Tyler] It's interesting
when we talk about family,

and getting an accurate picture
of what really happened.

There's kind of varying stories
as far as some of what would--

why certain things happened.

And I think we'll get clarification
with that.

One thing that does come in there,
just really quick.

[clicks tongue]

I have to talk about a conversation
around not believing somebody,

and somebody wanting to be believed,
but then not being believed.

So, this is good to keep in mind
when we talk about family.

Any trauma that may have occurred
where someone said, "This happened to me,"

and another family member was not willing
to recognize that that happened,

and person lives with that,

and then ultimately, I think,
someone passes in that equation,

because I don't ever see a resolve there.
That does come through in that way.

But there's-- Yeah.
Just remember that I'm saying,

if there's any men that are living,
that are presenting some challenges…

[laughs] …they're just bringing up…

like, grace,
and they're putting it around you,

and you're gonna be fine,

but it's very much a living situation
involving difficult man thing.

-[laughs]
-Yeah.

I keep seeing my symbol for boundaries
in the way this comes through,

-and like encouragement. [chuckles]
-Oh?

-Encouragement for boundaries?
-[Tyler] Yeah.

-[laughs]
-[group laughs]

[Tyler] But that does seem to be the gist.

So, what I would love to do,
I would love to reconnect one-on-one.

-Oh. [laughs]
-And--

'Cause there's some stuff,
particularly with the family history,

and discussions around,
you know, mental health,

I would love to be able to talk privately.

Tyler, that was so amazing.
You guys were an incredible group.

[guests laughing]

Thank you so much to Ricki
and her guests for being here today.

And we will be back next week
with another compelling reading

for an all-new wonderful celebrity.
We'll see you on the other side.

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