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Ms. Lamb, the United States
Government is deeply saddened
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by what happened
to your client's wife.
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Oh, is that why you're
trying to shut us up?
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Why you had us slapped with
a gag order the day we filed?
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I thought we were
here to talk settlement.
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Alright. What's your offer?
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- A hundred thousand.
- That's insulting!
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No admission of liability,
the case stays sealed.
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And nobody will ever know what
happened to Catherine Phillips?
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Forget it.
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You're obligated to discuss
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this with your client.
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Oh, I will.
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And he'll be as
disgusted as I am.
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You put Louis Videro,
a dangerous criminal,
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into your Witness
Protection Program.
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C.J.: You locate him in a
residential neighborhood
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where he brutally murders
an innocent woman.
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And now you offer her husband
a hundred thousand dollars
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to buy him off?
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You people are really something!
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Before you reject this,
I'd think about a few things.
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Such as?
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The national interest.
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We're fighting a war
against drugs, Ms. Lamb.
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The Witness Protection
Program is a vital weapon.
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Reisman: We'd appreciate your
cooperation.
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I don't believe
I'm hearing this.
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We do not appreciate people
who work against our interest.
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Reisman: One like you could
have immigration problems.
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And then there's your...
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unorthodox lifestyle.
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Is that a threat?
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Not at all.
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I'm merely pointing
out the facts.
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The system works best
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when we all work together.
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Let's get something clear.
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My client is not
going to be bought off
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and I am not
gonna be scared off.
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Catherine Phillips is dead
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because of the government's
negligence.
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And you are going
to be held accountable.
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[theme music]
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[music continues]
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[music continues]
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[instrumenal music]
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Where is Tommy Mullaney?
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McKenzie: He's running late,
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according to his assistant.
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Brackman: For the second time,
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this week. Next up.
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The James Phillips
vs. United States of America.
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Did I hear rumblings
of a settlement?
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We turned them down.
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Are you out of your mind?
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Kelsey:
I agree with her, Douglas.
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The Government
didn't supervise Videro.
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This case is worth
at least ten times their offer.
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But they're claiming immunity.
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You know they're
gonna beat this.
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Rollins: But if there's gross
negligence,
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you can get around immunity.
Maybe.
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Kelsey: Can you
get Videro to testify?
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C.J.: No.
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He pled guilty to the murder.
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He's in prison now
and he won't cooperate.
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The Government's
moved to dismiss against us,
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but the judge
wants a full hearing.
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It doesn't matter.
The case is a loser.
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If we accept the
Government's offer, Douglas,
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we'll be telling them it's
okay to conduct business
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any damned way they choose,
regardless of the consequences.
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I admire your principles.
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It's your judgement I question.
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Well, let's bear in mind that
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there's a gag order
in place here.
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Not a word of this is
to leave the room.
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Underscored. We
can't afford the fines.
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- Moving along--
Roxanne: Excuse me.
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But you wanted
to know when Arnie was on.
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Rollins: It's today?
Markowitz: Oh, yeah.
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He's gonna keep on
debuting until he gets it right.
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[all laughs]
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Arnold, coast to coast.
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It's a terrifying thought.
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Rollins: I'll say.
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male narrator:
Is the place to be!
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We'll have a live
report in half an hour.
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female reporter:
That's it for the news. Brooks?
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Thanks, Kelly.
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And now we're pleased to welcome
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Attorney Arnold Becker,
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Brooks: who'll be demystifying
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the legal process for us.
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Arnie, it's
good to have you here.
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Good to be here, Brooks.
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He's such a natural.
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No offense,
but I think most of us
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would rather go to the dentist
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than a lawyer. Why is that?
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Well, most people only think
that you go to a dentist
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when you're in pain or to
a lawyer when you're in trouble.
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Except really,
a lawyer can quite
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often be a
preventative to trouble.
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But it's not just that, is it?
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It's also a question of ethics.
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Well, there is a perception
that some attorneys
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act more in their own best
interests than their clients'.
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Dragging out a case with
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endless depositions
to increase billable hours.
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"Star" lawyers more interested
in promoting themselves
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than their client's case.
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Exactly.
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Brooks: And, yet, you yourself
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released a video casette,
didn't you?
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"Arnold Becker's
Do-It-Yourself Divorce."
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Uh, yeah. Yes, I did, uh...
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Becker: Precisely, because
I wanted to reach out to people
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who normally
don't go to lawyers.
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Uh, legal service has
increasingly
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become a privilege of the rich.
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And I wanted
to provide a service
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to the disenfranchised
middle class.
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Maybe you should
just lower your fees instead.
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[chuckles]
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I'll keep that in mind, Brooks.
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And we'll be back, after...
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I haven't seen this kind
of rapport since Sonny and Cher.
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[credits music on TV]
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[door opens]
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[indistinct chatter]
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Scotch rocks.
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[pouring alchohol]
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[distant car honks]
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Nice work, Arnie.
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What was all
that stuff about my video?
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That wasn't in the script.
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No. I like to keep it
spontaneous.
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A little conflict
gooses the ratings
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and we brought you in
to be provocative, right?
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You didn't think I was serious?
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No, no, of course not.
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Good! I knew we were
gonna have fun together.
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It was about 11 o'clock
on a Sunday night.
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Philips:
We had just been out to dinner.
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Philips: And Cathy said--
- Your wife.
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Philips: Yes. Cathy said that
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she needed some money
for the week...
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so we stopped in...
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a drive-in cash machine, and...
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I-- I didn't even
see the guy at first.
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But when I reached
for the money, he was there.
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He had a gun. And I-- I could
tell that he was...
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loaded on something.
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And I talked to him, I...
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told him not to panic,
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that he could have every cent.
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And then what happened,
Mr. Phillips?
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He shot me...
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in the chest.
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And the pain was unbelievable.
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[Philips stammers]
I guess I blacked out.
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And...
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when I came to...
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I heard Cathy screaming.
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She was begging for him to stop.
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I tried to get out of the car,
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but I-- I couldn't move.
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He was hurting her and...
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I was totally helpless.
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And then what happened?
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And then I-- I pulled
myself up and...
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I fell on the horn.
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[scoffs]
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That was all I could do.
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I don't know how long it
was before the police got there.
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I-- I just remember...
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a paramedic telling me
that I was lucky.
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I was gonna be okay.
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And your wife?
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Well, she was dead.
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He beat her to death.
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[gasps] He crushed her skull.
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Phillips: Her face
was unrecognizable.
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And he'd raped her.
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Yeah.
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The police apprehended
the man that night?
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Philips: Yes. They caught him
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trying to sell...
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a gold bracelet that I'd
given Cathy for our anniversary.
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Uh... I--- I identified him
the next day.
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Were you notified
of a trial date?
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Yeah. The D.A. told
me that they had everything
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they needed to send
him to the gas chamber.
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- Objection, hearsay!
- I'll allow it.
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And-- and then all of
a sudden, they're telling me
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there's not
going to be any trial.
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Why was that?
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Philips: Because of
the Federal government.
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Videro had testified for them
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in some big drug trial
back east and they...
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owed him.
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The next thing
I knew Videro was gone.
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Thank you.
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Mr. Phillips,
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let me say how genuinely sorry
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we all are for the
loss you've suffered.
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Oh, that's great.
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I can understand your anger.
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When someone you love has been
the victim of random violence,
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it helps to have
someone to blame.
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No, you're not getting
off the hook that easy!
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The man who committed the crime
is being punished, isn't he?
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He pleaded guilty
and he's serving a life sentence
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without the
possibility of parole.
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In a private cell w-- with
a stereo and a V.C.R.!
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Mr. Videro is in solitary
confinement
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for his own protection.
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And what about her?
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She's the U.S. attorney,
for God's sake.
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She put Videro in the program!
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She was supposed to make
sure they were watching him!
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Mr. Phillips, neither Miss
Copeland nor the United States
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Government is responsible
for the death of your wife.
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No. She knew what he was!
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Philips: She did not do her job!
- Your Honor--
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No, I'm sick of you
trying to shut me up!
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Mr. Phillips, please--
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That animal beat my
wife to death!
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He killed her
with his bare hands.
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How can you let that happen?
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How can you do that
to innocent people?
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[somber music]
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Bless me Father for
I have sinned.
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It's been two years since
my last confession.
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And what are your sins, my son?
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I, uh...
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I shot somebody.
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And I killed him.
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How come you're movin' so fast?
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[telephone ringing]
I got a "B" and "E" at nine.
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Don't... answer it.
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I've got two witnesses
I haven't even met yet
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and one arresting officer out
sick with a kidney stone.
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Could you do my zipper, please?
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Zoe on answering machine:
Hey, it's Zoe.
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I'm praying to plead this one,
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I do not want to try this case.
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Mullaney: Hey, Zoe.
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When you've got a minute
give me a call, please. Thanks.
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When was the last time
you talked to Tommy?
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Ah, last week.
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He's been a little
incommunicado lately.
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Ah, it's more than that.
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Something's wrong with him.
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What do you mean?
259
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Ah, he's been agitated at work.
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Missing court deadlines.
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Ever since... you know.
262
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Damn, I don't see how you
can still sleep in this room--
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Wait, wait, wait. Agitated, how?
264
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Short temper...
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erratic.
266
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If you ask me I think he could
use a little professional help.
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Becker: Jim, I'm only in
New York for half a week.
268
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I have to have another
researcher for this interview.
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I can't just-- oh, ah, hold on,
I got another call.
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Hello?
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Yeah, Gwen, I'm on... what?
272
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No, no, I can't depose then,
273
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I've got a settlement
conference.
274
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O-- okay, okay. Hold on,
hold-- hold on.
275
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Why don't you
switch the Markham to...
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Friday at 11,
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dump Dreiberg to
Thursday at nine
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and see if you can't juggle
the Monday schedule
279
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somehow to accommodate Lawton.
280
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Great! Okay thank you.
281
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Jim, yeah. Listen,
I'm going to have to move that
282
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wardrobe meeting to Wednesday,
something just came up.
283
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Right. Oh, thank you!
284
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Okay. Bye-bye.
285
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Great.
286
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Which do you like better,
the jade or the teal?
287
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Oh, I don't care.
Either one's fine.
288
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You must have some preference!
289
00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:51,354
Rox, I really don't have
time for this right now.
290
00:12:51,354 --> 00:12:53,064
Right, like you didn't have time
291
00:12:53,064 --> 00:12:54,649
to look at
wallpaper for the den,
292
00:12:54,649 --> 00:12:57,402
so now you make gagging
noises every time you go in.
293
00:12:57,402 --> 00:12:59,737
Arnie, we both live here,
294
00:12:59,737 --> 00:13:01,698
we both have
to make these decisions.
295
00:13:01,698 --> 00:13:03,491
Rox, in two days,
I have to do a major interview.
296
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I'm not Phil Donahue, I can't
pull this stuff out of thin air.
297
00:13:06,327 --> 00:13:07,620
And I can't afford to screw up.
298
00:13:08,913 --> 00:13:11,290
Look at this.
299
00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:13,876
"Arnold Becker, in
his debut, is so stiff
300
00:13:13,876 --> 00:13:17,588
someone should be drawing
chalk lines around his body."
301
00:13:17,588 --> 00:13:20,216
Roxanne: It's one bad review.
- One is all it takes.
302
00:13:20,216 --> 00:13:22,051
Becker: My God, in this business
they don't even give you a week!
303
00:13:22,051 --> 00:13:24,679
The sharks are circling,
there's blood in the water.
304
00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,514
If I blow it again,
I'm bone meal.
305
00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:28,308
Arnie, this is crazy.
306
00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:29,892
I only see you four days a week
307
00:13:29,892 --> 00:13:32,478
and-- and then for only an
hour or two, at most.
308
00:13:32,478 --> 00:13:35,148
You're not a boyfriend,
you're a-- a rumor.
309
00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:36,858
You think I like this?
You think I enjoy spending
310
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three nights a week in a hotel
311
00:13:38,234 --> 00:13:39,527
eating all that
great airline food,
312
00:13:39,527 --> 00:13:40,653
careening down 5th Avenue
313
00:13:40,653 --> 00:13:42,280
with a Kamikaze cab driver?
314
00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,741
Yes, I do think you like it!
315
00:13:44,741 --> 00:13:46,617
I think the crazier it gets,
316
00:13:46,617 --> 00:13:48,536
the-- the more exciting,
317
00:13:48,536 --> 00:13:51,539
the more glamorous you find it.
318
00:13:51,539 --> 00:13:52,790
That is ridiculous.
319
00:13:52,790 --> 00:13:55,543
That is so ridiculous.
320
00:13:55,543 --> 00:13:57,128
I gotta go.
I'll see you tonight.
321
00:13:59,547 --> 00:14:00,965
Arnie!
322
00:14:00,965 --> 00:14:02,216
Copeland:
The war on drugs isn't just
323
00:14:02,216 --> 00:14:04,135
some P.R. catchphrase.
324
00:14:04,135 --> 00:14:06,345
It's very real.
If we're going to win it,
325
00:14:06,345 --> 00:14:08,222
we need men like Louis Videro.
326
00:14:08,222 --> 00:14:10,391
- There's no other way?
- Sometimes we get lucky.
327
00:14:10,391 --> 00:14:11,726
A wire tap or...
328
00:14:11,726 --> 00:14:14,520
an informant's tip
pays off, but...
329
00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,689
in most cases,
if we want a conviction,
330
00:14:16,689 --> 00:14:19,609
we need the testimony of someone
who's been on the inside.
331
00:14:19,609 --> 00:14:22,779
Now, this is an organization
shrouded in secrecy.
332
00:14:22,779 --> 00:14:25,573
Until Videro, our ability
to infiltrate was zero.
333
00:14:25,573 --> 00:14:26,949
And with his testimony?
334
00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:28,201
To date, we've secured
335
00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:30,495
the convictions of
Raphael Ramirez,
336
00:14:30,495 --> 00:14:33,164
Cesar Rivera and Felix Quintana.
337
00:14:33,164 --> 00:14:35,708
Three individuals responsible
for importing and selling over
338
00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:37,794
twenty million
dollars' worth of cocaine
339
00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:39,879
a month in the United States.
340
00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:42,381
Short of offering him
a new identity or relocation,
341
00:14:42,381 --> 00:14:45,468
was there any other means of
securing Videro's cooperation?
342
00:14:45,468 --> 00:14:47,970
In their own country,
Columbian drug bosses
343
00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:51,015
think nothing of murdering
police, judges,
344
00:14:51,015 --> 00:14:52,391
even a presidential candidate,
345
00:14:52,391 --> 00:14:54,143
anyone who dares to oppose them.
346
00:14:54,143 --> 00:14:56,771
Without protection, Videro would
never have agreed to testify
347
00:14:56,771 --> 00:14:58,731
and... I can't blame him.
348
00:14:58,731 --> 00:15:01,192
But in the end, Ms. Copeland,
you're-- you're...
349
00:15:01,192 --> 00:15:02,902
turning out a hardened
criminal on the street.
350
00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:05,613
Every participant in
the program knows...
351
00:15:05,613 --> 00:15:07,865
that their protection
stops if they commit a crime.
352
00:15:07,865 --> 00:15:09,242
Reisman:
But there's still the risk?
353
00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:11,202
Copeland: It's
the lesser of two evils.
354
00:15:11,202 --> 00:15:14,205
Drugs and organized crime are
out of control in this country.
355
00:15:14,205 --> 00:15:15,998
The public wants action.
356
00:15:15,998 --> 00:15:18,000
We're being forced
to take calculated risks.
357
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,585
Like Louis Videro?
358
00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:21,420
- Yes.
Reisman: Thank you.
359
00:15:22,964 --> 00:15:24,966
C.J.: Calculated risk?
360
00:15:24,966 --> 00:15:28,052
Robbery. Drug possession.
361
00:15:28,052 --> 00:15:30,346
Aggravated assault.
362
00:15:30,346 --> 00:15:32,598
Armed robbery. Rape.
363
00:15:32,598 --> 00:15:34,934
This is the record
of a violent criminal.
364
00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:36,811
Wasn't Videro about to be
365
00:15:36,811 --> 00:15:39,355
charged with manslaughter
when he cut this deal with you?
366
00:15:39,355 --> 00:15:41,149
Hadn't he beaten a man to death?
367
00:15:41,149 --> 00:15:42,567
A rival drug dealer.
368
00:15:42,567 --> 00:15:44,694
A human being.
369
00:15:44,694 --> 00:15:47,864
You let him out and he
murdered again in the same way,
370
00:15:47,864 --> 00:15:50,825
only this time it was
an innocent woman, wasn't it?
371
00:15:50,825 --> 00:15:54,078
Louis Videro
is not some serial killer.
372
00:15:54,078 --> 00:15:56,122
He went through hours
of psychological testing
373
00:15:56,122 --> 00:15:58,124
before he was
admitted into the program.
374
00:15:58,124 --> 00:15:59,959
And he passed all of them.
375
00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:01,586
What do these tests measure?
376
00:16:01,586 --> 00:16:04,005
His ability to cope
with loneliness and isolation.
377
00:16:04,005 --> 00:16:05,631
That's it?
378
00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:07,091
These are critical problems
facing a new witness--
379
00:16:07,091 --> 00:16:08,843
Did you measure the likelihood
380
00:16:08,843 --> 00:16:11,053
that he'd commit
another violent crime?
381
00:16:11,053 --> 00:16:12,430
Not directly.
382
00:16:12,430 --> 00:16:13,472
You really didn't care
383
00:16:13,472 --> 00:16:15,057
about his psychological profile!
384
00:16:15,057 --> 00:16:16,517
- Objection!
- Or his record.
385
00:16:16,517 --> 00:16:18,436
- Objection!
- Or his violent nature!
386
00:16:18,436 --> 00:16:21,022
Sustained.
387
00:16:21,022 --> 00:16:22,273
All that mattered to you
388
00:16:22,273 --> 00:16:24,984
was Videro's
testimony in your cases.
389
00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:26,652
You didn't even care
about his drug use.
390
00:16:26,652 --> 00:16:28,571
Videro was clean when
he came into the program.
391
00:16:28,571 --> 00:16:29,906
Videro was in custody
392
00:16:29,906 --> 00:16:31,699
when he came into your program.
393
00:16:31,699 --> 00:16:35,328
But six months later,
a report was made to you...
394
00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:38,831
by William Hopson, the
U.S. Marshall supervising him.
395
00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:41,209
He caught Videro using cocaine.
396
00:16:41,209 --> 00:16:43,461
It was a small amount.
On one occasion.
397
00:16:43,461 --> 00:16:45,129
On one occasion that
you knew of.
398
00:16:45,129 --> 00:16:47,673
C.J.: But it's still a crime,
isn't it, Ms. Copeland?
399
00:16:47,673 --> 00:16:50,009
According to your own rules,
Videro should have been
400
00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:51,385
thrown out of the program--
401
00:16:51,385 --> 00:16:52,595
We have discretion there,
402
00:16:52,595 --> 00:16:54,722
it's a judgment call.
403
00:16:54,722 --> 00:16:56,098
If we terminated an individual
404
00:16:56,098 --> 00:16:57,600
every time there's a minor
infraction,
405
00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,185
there'd be no one
left in the program--
406
00:16:59,185 --> 00:17:00,478
If you'd terminated him,
407
00:17:00,478 --> 00:17:01,520
Catherine Phillips would still
408
00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,647
be alive, wouldn't she?
409
00:17:02,647 --> 00:17:03,814
There's no way we could've
410
00:17:03,814 --> 00:17:05,441
predicted he'd kill someone!
411
00:17:05,441 --> 00:17:08,444
Really? Ms. Copeland...
412
00:17:08,444 --> 00:17:10,696
you took a man with
a terrifying history
413
00:17:10,696 --> 00:17:13,741
of drugs mixed with
violence and murder.
414
00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:15,159
C.J.: You gave him his freedom.
415
00:17:15,159 --> 00:17:17,203
You knew he was
using drugs again.
416
00:17:17,203 --> 00:17:19,872
And you say you couldn't
have predicted this?
417
00:17:19,872 --> 00:17:21,332
What did you think
was going to happen?
418
00:17:21,332 --> 00:17:22,875
The man self-destructed.
419
00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:25,336
Your man self-destructed,
Ms. Copeland!
420
00:17:27,463 --> 00:17:28,923
He was your man.
421
00:17:30,132 --> 00:17:33,010
[indistinct chattering]
422
00:17:33,010 --> 00:17:36,222
This is a nightmare. I'm gonna
be playing catch-up all night.
423
00:17:36,222 --> 00:17:37,556
Alright, let me
have the bad news.
424
00:17:37,556 --> 00:17:39,433
Preston vs. Comparsi?
425
00:17:39,433 --> 00:17:41,811
I took care of
the filing on Monday.
426
00:17:41,811 --> 00:17:44,313
Well, good, good.
Spencer vs. Menken?
427
00:17:44,313 --> 00:17:45,648
I made sure the
discovery deadlines
428
00:17:45,648 --> 00:17:47,233
were being satisfied.
No problem.
429
00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:49,068
Oh, God, Jack Terry
is gonna be livid,
430
00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:50,570
I haven't checked in
with him in weeks.
431
00:17:50,570 --> 00:17:52,405
He's fine. I make a
point of it to call him
432
00:17:52,405 --> 00:17:53,823
once a week to
give him an update.
433
00:17:55,950 --> 00:17:57,743
Go ahead, let's hear it.
434
00:17:57,743 --> 00:17:59,328
Hear what?
435
00:17:59,328 --> 00:18:01,455
I'm presumptuous.
I'm meddling, I'm impertinent,
436
00:18:01,455 --> 00:18:03,582
I'm taking liberties,
I'm overstepping my bounds
437
00:18:03,582 --> 00:18:05,751
except somebody has to, Arnie.
You sure as hell--
438
00:18:05,751 --> 00:18:08,212
Gwen... thank you.
439
00:18:10,172 --> 00:18:11,757
- Excuse me?
- You're right.
440
00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:12,800
I've been so frantic lately.
441
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:13,884
I've been letting things slide.
442
00:18:13,884 --> 00:18:15,094
You've been bailing me out.
443
00:18:15,803 --> 00:18:17,763
Thank you.
444
00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:20,099
Who are you and what have
you done with the real Arnie?
445
00:18:26,731 --> 00:18:28,357
Have you got a minute?
446
00:18:28,357 --> 00:18:29,317
Come in.
447
00:18:30,776 --> 00:18:32,695
I hear you've done some damage.
448
00:18:32,695 --> 00:18:33,654
Not enough.
449
00:18:35,656 --> 00:18:37,867
Do you still have
friends at Justice?
450
00:18:37,867 --> 00:18:39,869
There are one or two
people who don't hate my guts.
451
00:18:39,869 --> 00:18:40,828
[both chuckle]
452
00:18:41,829 --> 00:18:42,955
Frank, I need your help.
453
00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:46,125
Sit down.
454
00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:48,669
Kitteredge:
I was hoping you'd come by.
455
00:18:48,669 --> 00:18:51,839
I'd take a long, hard
look at what you're doing.
456
00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:53,799
It could have
serious consequences.
457
00:18:55,176 --> 00:18:56,260
You're a little late.
I've already
458
00:18:56,260 --> 00:18:57,928
been through this with Reisman.
459
00:18:57,928 --> 00:18:59,930
You're pointing out
their imperfections.
460
00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:01,474
They don't like that.
461
00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:03,225
Well, they've already
threatened to deport me
462
00:19:03,225 --> 00:19:05,061
as undesirable.
What more can they do?
463
00:19:05,061 --> 00:19:06,228
[chuckles softly]
464
00:19:06,228 --> 00:19:08,898
"They" won't do anything.
465
00:19:08,898 --> 00:19:11,150
But you might suddenly
develop tax problems.
466
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,568
The State Bar may get complaints
467
00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,737
about your competence
or your morals.
468
00:19:14,737 --> 00:19:17,365
And custody
proceedings can be revisited.
469
00:19:17,365 --> 00:19:19,950
Well, I'm surprised you
left the Justice Department.
470
00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:21,869
You sound like a true believer.
471
00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:23,662
I was.
472
00:19:23,662 --> 00:19:25,915
Till I got in their way.
473
00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:28,834
It was only a minor cover-up.
474
00:19:28,834 --> 00:19:32,421
A small operation in Jersey
welched on a defense contract.
475
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:35,549
We had them dead bang for fraud.
476
00:19:35,549 --> 00:19:37,635
But when I began to investigate
it became apparent
477
00:19:37,635 --> 00:19:39,345
that bribes have been
paid to some people
478
00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:41,389
rather high up in Defense.
479
00:19:41,389 --> 00:19:44,642
Word came down for me to take my
time on this one.
480
00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:46,394
Then the press
found out somehow...
481
00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:49,814
and I was fired.
482
00:19:49,814 --> 00:19:51,023
I'm not backing off.
483
00:19:52,983 --> 00:19:55,486
But, hey, [sighs]
thanks for the warning.
484
00:19:55,486 --> 00:19:56,946
I understand why you can't help.
485
00:19:56,946 --> 00:19:58,030
I didn't say that.
486
00:20:00,366 --> 00:20:01,951
When you worked for them,
would you have
487
00:20:01,951 --> 00:20:04,370
gone to all this trouble
to get me to settle?
488
00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:05,621
Probably not.
489
00:20:05,621 --> 00:20:06,622
Then, why are they?
490
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,712
[scrapping]
491
00:20:15,548 --> 00:20:16,882
So you feedin' me, huh?
492
00:20:18,259 --> 00:20:19,301
This is big.
493
00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:23,139
You never made dinner
when we were married.
494
00:20:23,139 --> 00:20:24,181
How would you know?
495
00:20:24,181 --> 00:20:25,599
You never came home for it.
496
00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:28,686
- Toosh.
- Toosh.
497
00:20:30,646 --> 00:20:33,107
I gotta tell ya, though,
498
00:20:33,107 --> 00:20:35,985
this brings it all back.
499
00:20:35,985 --> 00:20:37,820
You sure as hell can't cook.
500
00:20:37,820 --> 00:20:38,779
[chuckles]
501
00:20:39,905 --> 00:20:40,906
Mm-mm.
502
00:20:49,832 --> 00:20:50,875
Okay.
503
00:20:52,209 --> 00:20:53,335
So, what's the point?
504
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,590
Word is you've
been acting strange.
505
00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:59,967
"Word is?"
Where did you hear this?
506
00:20:59,967 --> 00:21:03,179
From Jonathan, you
know where I heard it from.
507
00:21:03,179 --> 00:21:05,014
[sighs] You've been...
508
00:21:05,014 --> 00:21:07,975
You've been agitated
at work, he says.
509
00:21:07,975 --> 00:21:10,227
So, do you think you should
talk to somebody about this?
510
00:21:10,227 --> 00:21:12,521
Who?
Who am I gonna go to but you?
511
00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:13,814
- Well, then talk to me--
- No, no.
512
00:21:13,814 --> 00:21:15,774
You don't wanna
have this conversation.
513
00:21:15,774 --> 00:21:17,902
You dont' wanna be sayin' out
loud what happened that night.
514
00:21:17,902 --> 00:21:19,195
It was self-defense.
515
00:21:19,195 --> 00:21:20,488
Yeah, that's a good answer.
516
00:21:20,488 --> 00:21:22,323
I keep tellin' myself
the same thing.
517
00:21:24,325 --> 00:21:25,701
I can almost believe it.
518
00:21:25,701 --> 00:21:27,286
The man pulled a gun on you.
519
00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:28,871
I made him pull the gun!
520
00:21:28,871 --> 00:21:31,415
I baited him,
I forced him to draw the gun
521
00:21:31,415 --> 00:21:33,876
so I could put a bullet in him
and call it self defense.
522
00:21:33,876 --> 00:21:35,127
You know it. I know it.
523
00:21:37,755 --> 00:21:39,673
- What I saw--
- Don't, Zo.
524
00:21:40,424 --> 00:21:41,425
Don't.
525
00:21:47,848 --> 00:21:50,142
You lying's only gonna
make me feel worse.
526
00:21:51,435 --> 00:21:53,479
A, I don't regret it.
527
00:21:53,479 --> 00:21:55,898
The psycho woulda come back,
he'd a been here to kill you.
528
00:21:55,898 --> 00:21:58,526
Same situation all over,
I'd do it again.
529
00:21:58,526 --> 00:22:00,611
Then why are you
beating yourself up about this?
530
00:22:00,611 --> 00:22:02,404
Because I killed somebody!
531
00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:07,576
I-- I hid in there with
my gun and I planned.
532
00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:09,245
I wasn't thinkin'
about just woundin' him
533
00:22:09,245 --> 00:22:10,871
or just gettin' him arrested.
534
00:22:10,871 --> 00:22:13,832
Only thing going through my mind
535
00:22:13,832 --> 00:22:15,042
was "don't miss."
536
00:22:21,257 --> 00:22:23,425
I can't sleep, Zo.
537
00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:25,594
I'm like afraid to, uh...
538
00:22:25,594 --> 00:22:27,513
be alone with myself, I'm...
539
00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:33,102
I know I did
the best thing, Zoey.
540
00:22:33,102 --> 00:22:35,020
I gotta be able
to live with what I did--
541
00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:37,273
- Absolutely! Absolutely!
- Yeah, absolutely.
542
00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:41,860
So, why can't I?
543
00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:44,280
[sighs]
544
00:22:51,829 --> 00:22:54,790
[instrumental music]
545
00:23:03,465 --> 00:23:04,466
Hey, Zo?
546
00:23:06,635 --> 00:23:07,636
You up yet?
547
00:23:09,013 --> 00:23:10,472
Listen, I'mma off
drop some stuff
548
00:23:10,472 --> 00:23:12,391
and I'll just
swing by after wor--
549
00:23:12,391 --> 00:23:13,976
Jonathan? [gasps]
550
00:23:15,644 --> 00:23:17,104
Jonathan!
551
00:23:17,104 --> 00:23:19,690
Jonathan! Jonathan!
552
00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:22,651
[breathing heavily]
Oh, God.
553
00:23:22,651 --> 00:23:23,902
Oh God, this is great.
554
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,823
[gasping]
555
00:23:32,286 --> 00:23:34,538
[sighs]
556
00:23:34,538 --> 00:23:36,665
Brooks:
We're back with Arnold Becker,
557
00:23:36,665 --> 00:23:38,959
legal affairs correspondent,
and his guest,
558
00:23:38,959 --> 00:23:42,796
celebrated divorce
attorney John Caplan.
559
00:23:42,796 --> 00:23:44,381
- Arnie?
- Thank you, Brooks.
560
00:23:44,381 --> 00:23:46,300
And thank you for
being with us today, Mr. Caplan.
561
00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:47,676
My pleasure.
562
00:23:47,676 --> 00:23:48,719
I think it's safe to say
563
00:23:48,719 --> 00:23:50,137
that all of us in family law
564
00:23:50,137 --> 00:23:52,723
respect and admire your
work in the field.
565
00:23:52,723 --> 00:23:55,434
At the same time you
are a controversial figure.
566
00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:56,685
I should hope so.
567
00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:58,520
- I've worked at it.
- He-he.
568
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,565
You represented Barbara
Geller in her palimony action
569
00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:04,068
against financier
Robert McClure.
570
00:24:04,068 --> 00:24:06,278
Some people were
dismayed at your tactics,
571
00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:09,156
particularly your
public revelations of...
572
00:24:09,156 --> 00:24:10,950
Mr. McClure's
sexual peccadilloes.
573
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:12,701
Ah, well, my tactics
574
00:24:12,701 --> 00:24:15,663
may have been in
questionable taste, perhaps,
575
00:24:15,663 --> 00:24:18,165
but there was nothing
unethical about them.
576
00:24:18,165 --> 00:24:20,125
Caplan: If Mr. McClure was
so foolish as to be
577
00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:24,171
careless about his
sexual indiscretions,
578
00:24:24,171 --> 00:24:26,131
he can't complain when
it's used against him.
579
00:24:26,131 --> 00:24:27,966
He deserves what he gets.
580
00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:29,343
Arnie? May I?
581
00:24:29,343 --> 00:24:31,845
Mr. Caplan do you
regard it as ethical
582
00:24:31,845 --> 00:24:36,100
for an attorney to have a sexual
relationship with his client?
583
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:39,144
[scoffs] Well, I certainly
think it's ill-advised.
584
00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:40,562
But not unethical?
585
00:24:40,562 --> 00:24:43,524
A woman puts her
trust in her attorney,
586
00:24:43,524 --> 00:24:45,651
and he violates that trust
587
00:24:45,651 --> 00:24:47,319
for his own pleasure?
588
00:24:48,612 --> 00:24:50,531
What do you think, Arnie?
589
00:24:50,531 --> 00:24:53,158
I can see how it might occur,
590
00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:56,704
but ultimately it does
present a conflict of interest.
591
00:24:56,704 --> 00:24:58,247
Of course, in certain cases,
592
00:24:58,247 --> 00:25:00,749
I can see where it might uh...
593
00:25:00,749 --> 00:25:04,002
be a-- a violation of
trust, as you put it.
594
00:25:04,002 --> 00:25:05,796
But didn't you, in fact, have
595
00:25:05,796 --> 00:25:07,965
just such a sexual relationship
596
00:25:07,965 --> 00:25:09,591
with Barbara Geller?
597
00:25:09,591 --> 00:25:11,593
Not until after the trial.
598
00:25:11,593 --> 00:25:14,430
Brooks: I have statements
from a desk clerk at a hotel
599
00:25:14,430 --> 00:25:16,682
in Santa Barbara
attesting to the fact
600
00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:19,143
that you and Ms. Geller
checked in there
601
00:25:19,143 --> 00:25:23,272
on May 11th, 1989,
three weeks into the trial.
602
00:25:23,272 --> 00:25:24,648
That was a strategy session-
603
00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:26,692
You stayed overnight
in the same room.
604
00:25:26,692 --> 00:25:28,569
What kind of strategy
were you discussing?
605
00:25:28,569 --> 00:25:29,862
That is none of
anyone's business
606
00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:30,904
but mine and Ms. Geller's--
607
00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:32,948
And possibly the State Bar's.
608
00:25:32,948 --> 00:25:34,992
If a man is foolish enough
609
00:25:34,992 --> 00:25:38,245
to be careless
about his indiscretions
610
00:25:38,245 --> 00:25:42,166
doesn't he deserve what he gets?
611
00:25:42,166 --> 00:25:43,751
Becker: You ambushed me!
612
00:25:43,751 --> 00:25:44,918
I ambushed him.
613
00:25:44,918 --> 00:25:46,003
And you helped me.
614
00:25:46,003 --> 00:25:47,921
Well, why didn't you tell me?
615
00:25:47,921 --> 00:25:51,008
It made for better television.
We're a great team.
616
00:25:51,008 --> 00:25:53,218
You lulled him into complacency,
and I moved in for the kill.
617
00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:54,803
Except you come off
as the great journalist,
618
00:25:54,803 --> 00:25:56,263
I look like an amateur!
619
00:25:56,263 --> 00:25:58,015
If that's what's best
for the show, yes!
620
00:25:58,015 --> 00:26:00,017
Don't get me wrong, Arnie,
I like you,
621
00:26:00,017 --> 00:26:02,060
but if I decide it's in the best
interests of the show
622
00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:03,812
to deliver your
lines standing on one foot
623
00:26:03,812 --> 00:26:05,481
and whistling
Dixie, you'll do it!
624
00:26:05,481 --> 00:26:06,899
Are we clear?
625
00:26:06,899 --> 00:26:07,858
[scoffs]
626
00:26:09,693 --> 00:26:10,694
[knocks on door]
627
00:26:12,321 --> 00:26:13,864
I owe you an apology.
628
00:26:13,864 --> 00:26:14,990
You owe me nothing.
629
00:26:17,701 --> 00:26:19,078
Nothing happened, Jonathan.
630
00:26:19,078 --> 00:26:20,496
I was there because I was a mess
631
00:26:20,496 --> 00:26:22,289
over the shooting and I...
632
00:26:22,289 --> 00:26:23,457
I turned to Zoey.
633
00:26:23,457 --> 00:26:25,501
And she was there for you.
634
00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:26,543
It all worked out.
635
00:26:26,543 --> 00:26:27,961
But nothing happened!
636
00:26:27,961 --> 00:26:29,922
I crashed there, I slept there,
637
00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:31,840
maybe I held
onto her like a baby,
638
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,675
but nothin' physical happened.
639
00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:36,178
And she called to tell you last
night, you weren't pickin' up.
640
00:26:36,178 --> 00:26:38,430
Well, then, it was all just
a misunderstanding then.
641
00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:40,265
'Cause if she had just told me,
"Hey, Jonathan,
642
00:26:40,265 --> 00:26:41,600
I'm sleeping
with my ex-husband tonight,"
643
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,851
then everything would be great.
644
00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:44,394
- Jonathan--
- Hey, don't! Man...
645
00:26:46,063 --> 00:26:48,065
I wanna be mature about this.
646
00:26:50,943 --> 00:26:52,069
I'm late, I gotta go.
647
00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:54,988
[distant phone ringing]
648
00:26:54,988 --> 00:26:56,490
[distant chattering]
649
00:26:56,490 --> 00:26:59,785
Mr. Hopson, when did you
first meet Louis Videro?
650
00:26:59,785 --> 00:27:02,287
In '89, just after he
came into the program.
651
00:27:02,287 --> 00:27:04,832
I was the U.S. Marshall
assigned to supervise him.
652
00:27:04,832 --> 00:27:06,500
And what did
that function entail?
653
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:07,543
Hopson:
I found him an apartment,
654
00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:08,627
I helped him get furniture
655
00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:09,711
and phone service
656
00:27:09,711 --> 00:27:11,421
and I helped him look for a job.
657
00:27:11,421 --> 00:27:13,173
In your estimation,
658
00:27:13,173 --> 00:27:14,883
was he making the adjustment?
659
00:27:14,883 --> 00:27:16,927
He had his ups and downs,
he couldn't find a job.
660
00:27:16,927 --> 00:27:18,929
But, um, overall, he
was doing pretty well.
661
00:27:18,929 --> 00:27:20,305
What about Ms. Lamb's contention
662
00:27:20,305 --> 00:27:21,473
that the one drug incident
663
00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:22,516
should have alerted you that
664
00:27:22,516 --> 00:27:23,559
something more serious
665
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:24,601
was going to happen?
666
00:27:24,601 --> 00:27:25,644
Like he was gonna go out
667
00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:27,563
and commit a murder? No way.
668
00:27:27,563 --> 00:27:29,565
Hopson: You've got to understand
the people in this program.
669
00:27:29,565 --> 00:27:31,900
Most of them have had
lifestyles you wouldn't believe.
670
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:33,652
Cars. Money. Women.
671
00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,654
Then suddenly they're alone.
Stuck in a suburb.
672
00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:37,030
Bored out of their minds.
673
00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:38,323
Some guys'll take a drink.
674
00:27:38,323 --> 00:27:39,908
Videro did a little coke.
675
00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:41,368
That's not to say we ignored it.
676
00:27:41,368 --> 00:27:42,786
What action did you take?
677
00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:43,829
We stepped up supervision.
678
00:27:43,829 --> 00:27:45,414
I had a talk with Videro.
679
00:27:45,414 --> 00:27:47,624
I told him,
one more episode like that
680
00:27:47,624 --> 00:27:49,501
and Ms. Copeland would
throw him out of the program.
681
00:27:49,501 --> 00:27:51,295
Thank you. Your witness.
682
00:27:52,379 --> 00:27:53,839
No random testing?
683
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:55,632
- No drug counseling?
- No.
684
00:27:55,632 --> 00:27:57,175
So you really thought a warning
685
00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:59,428
and increased supervision
would be sufficient?
686
00:27:59,428 --> 00:28:02,472
Without our protection, Videro
was a dead man and he knew it.
687
00:28:02,472 --> 00:28:04,224
That's strong
incentive to stay clean.
688
00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:05,934
Yeah, but it wasn't
enough, was it?
689
00:28:05,934 --> 00:28:08,687
He was high the night
he murdered Catherine Phillips.
690
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,063
Do you know
where he got the drugs?
691
00:28:10,063 --> 00:28:11,481
No. Not for sure.
692
00:28:11,481 --> 00:28:12,524
C.J.: Do you know
where he got the gun?
693
00:28:12,524 --> 00:28:13,567
No.
694
00:28:13,567 --> 00:28:14,693
Mr. Hopson, you said
695
00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,528
you increased supervision.
696
00:28:16,528 --> 00:28:18,322
C.J.: Just how closely were
you watching him?
697
00:28:18,322 --> 00:28:19,907
Look, I've been doing
this work for 15 years.
698
00:28:19,907 --> 00:28:23,493
I've supervised 60,
70 guys. I'm not a rookie.
699
00:28:23,493 --> 00:28:24,536
Mr. Hopson...
700
00:28:26,747 --> 00:28:28,916
what does the name
Cindy Black mean to you?
701
00:28:28,916 --> 00:28:30,208
Objection, irrelevant!
702
00:28:30,208 --> 00:28:31,627
I will show
relevance, Your Honor.
703
00:28:31,627 --> 00:28:32,961
Reisman:
Your Honor, this is extremely
704
00:28:32,961 --> 00:28:34,421
sensitive information that
threatens
705
00:28:34,421 --> 00:28:36,256
the security of
the Witness Protection Program!
706
00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:37,799
Overruled.
707
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:39,426
You've got your gag
order, Mr. Reisman.
708
00:28:39,426 --> 00:28:41,345
This courtroom is sealed.
709
00:28:41,345 --> 00:28:42,346
The witness will answer.
710
00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:44,848
Cindy Black was a prostitute.
711
00:28:44,848 --> 00:28:45,891
Hopson:
It's my understanding that
712
00:28:45,891 --> 00:28:47,059
Videro was one of her clients.
713
00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:48,310
And you knew this because
714
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:51,104
an informant told you, correct?
715
00:28:51,104 --> 00:28:52,856
I didn't ask Ms. Copeland,
716
00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:54,691
I asked you.
717
00:28:54,691 --> 00:28:57,736
Why did your informant
tell you about Louis Videro
718
00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:59,446
and Cindy Black?
719
00:28:59,446 --> 00:29:00,906
Because Cindy Black was
murdered.
720
00:29:00,906 --> 00:29:02,824
In fact, she was beaten
to death, wasn't she?
721
00:29:02,824 --> 00:29:03,867
Your Honor!
722
00:29:03,867 --> 00:29:04,910
The plaintiff would like to
723
00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:06,286
recall Lisa Copeland.
724
00:29:09,998 --> 00:29:12,501
Isn't it possible,
even probable,
725
00:29:12,501 --> 00:29:15,170
Louis Videro
murdered Cindy Black?
726
00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:17,422
She was a prostitute,
she knew hundreds of men.
727
00:29:17,422 --> 00:29:18,882
Any one of them
could've done it.
728
00:29:18,882 --> 00:29:20,384
Ms. Black was beaten to death
729
00:29:20,384 --> 00:29:22,010
the same way
Videro murdered before.
730
00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:25,138
So? Prostitutes die
that way all the time.
731
00:29:25,138 --> 00:29:27,057
Did Louis Videro
kill all of them?
732
00:29:27,057 --> 00:29:29,559
Did you at least notify
local law enforcement
733
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,770
that Videro might be
a possible suspect?
734
00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:33,897
No. We conducted our own
735
00:29:33,897 --> 00:29:36,984
thorough investigation and
concluded Videro was innocent.
736
00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:40,070
You conducted an
investigation...
737
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:42,698
without access to the body,
the coroner's report
738
00:29:42,698 --> 00:29:44,074
or any other evidence?
739
00:29:44,074 --> 00:29:46,201
There was absolutely
no hard evidence
740
00:29:46,201 --> 00:29:47,828
tying Videro to this murder.
741
00:29:47,828 --> 00:29:50,414
There was plenty of
circumstantial evidence.
742
00:29:50,414 --> 00:29:51,790
C.J.:
You knew Black was probably
743
00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:53,166
turning tricks with Videro.
744
00:29:53,166 --> 00:29:54,167
That doesn't mean he killed her.
745
00:29:54,167 --> 00:29:55,210
That she was probably
746
00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:56,253
selling him drugs
747
00:29:56,253 --> 00:29:57,295
and that he had a history
748
00:29:57,295 --> 00:29:59,047
of violence. But you kept it
749
00:29:59,047 --> 00:30:01,675
all to yourselves to protect
the credibility of your witness.
750
00:30:01,675 --> 00:30:03,343
- Objection! This is a speech.
- Sustained.
751
00:30:03,343 --> 00:30:05,429
Another murder might've
tainted his testimony
752
00:30:05,429 --> 00:30:07,305
and that could've
jeopardized your drug cases--
753
00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:08,807
Reisman: Your Honor!
- Move on, Ms. Lamb.
754
00:30:10,225 --> 00:30:13,854
So... in spite
of Cindy Black's murder,
755
00:30:13,854 --> 00:30:16,606
you never considered removing
Videro from the program?
756
00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:18,567
As I said...
757
00:30:18,567 --> 00:30:20,402
we'd cleared
him of any wrong-doing.
758
00:30:20,402 --> 00:30:22,821
It was all part of the
bargain, wasn't it?
759
00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:24,698
Two weeks after
Cindy Black's murder,
760
00:30:24,698 --> 00:30:26,199
Videro kept his end.
761
00:30:26,199 --> 00:30:28,243
He testified for you
in the Ramirez trial.
762
00:30:29,161 --> 00:30:30,245
Yes.
763
00:30:30,245 --> 00:30:31,788
C.J.: And two months after that,
764
00:30:31,788 --> 00:30:34,666
he beat Catherine Phillips
to death.
765
00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:36,126
How does it feel, Ms. Copeland,
766
00:30:36,126 --> 00:30:37,711
knowing you could
have prevented her murder?
767
00:30:37,711 --> 00:30:40,213
- Objection!
- Ms. Lamb, that's enough!
768
00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:41,882
I have no more questions.
769
00:30:46,887 --> 00:30:48,430
This is how
you deal with things?
770
00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:50,015
You just don't
return phone calls?
771
00:30:50,015 --> 00:30:51,725
Hey, after what I saw
there was nothing to say.
772
00:30:51,725 --> 00:30:53,351
Clemmons: He was hurting,
Jonathan. He needed--
773
00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:55,145
And his pain justifies
you sleeping with him?
774
00:30:55,145 --> 00:30:56,688
I was not sleeping with him!
775
00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:58,273
You were in the same bed,
he spent the night--
776
00:30:58,273 --> 00:30:59,983
You know his state of mind,
for God's sake--
777
00:30:59,983 --> 00:31:03,445
I don't care how much
he hurts, you understand?
778
00:31:03,445 --> 00:31:04,905
I'm not-- I'm not gonna be
with anybody
779
00:31:04,905 --> 00:31:06,698
whose relationship
with somebody else,
780
00:31:06,698 --> 00:31:08,200
whatever the
hell it's supposed to be,
781
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,701
has them winding
up in bed together!
782
00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:11,369
You selfish son of a bitch!
783
00:31:11,369 --> 00:31:13,038
You got that right, baby.
784
00:31:13,038 --> 00:31:14,873
When it comes to me
being involved with somebody,
785
00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:16,917
I'm the most self-protecting
786
00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:18,960
self-centered
bastard you'll ever meet!
787
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,089
- I'm leaving!
Rollins: You hurt me!
788
00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:24,508
And I'm not going to
get in any deeper with you
789
00:31:24,508 --> 00:31:26,426
and end up being hurt worse.
790
00:31:26,426 --> 00:31:29,346
What happened last night
is not going to happen again.
791
00:31:29,346 --> 00:31:31,348
Yes it will!
Zo, don't you understand?
792
00:31:31,348 --> 00:31:33,683
You two still love each other.
You need each other.
793
00:31:33,683 --> 00:31:36,645
- That's not true!
- It is! It is!
794
00:31:36,645 --> 00:31:39,022
Rollins: It's true
and I can't handle it.
795
00:31:40,357 --> 00:31:41,691
I can't be in this anymore.
796
00:31:41,691 --> 00:31:42,651
I'm sorry.
797
00:31:44,361 --> 00:31:46,571
Are you saying...
we're finished?
798
00:31:47,948 --> 00:31:49,032
Yeah. We're finished.
799
00:31:54,996 --> 00:31:57,958
[distant chattering]
800
00:31:59,918 --> 00:32:01,586
I'll be right with you, honey.
801
00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:04,422
Right. Morning.
802
00:32:04,422 --> 00:32:06,216
Feldman: What do you want?
Just tell me. What you want?
803
00:32:08,552 --> 00:32:11,763
Uh-huh. Oh, yeah.
Look, he is the attorney...
804
00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:13,473
Tapman: He's a lightweight.
805
00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:15,183
If I hadn't stepped in,
806
00:32:15,183 --> 00:32:16,768
he would've let
Caplan off the hook...
807
00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:18,395
Feldman: You haven't given
the poor guy a chance!
808
00:32:18,395 --> 00:32:20,522
Tapman: I gave the lifestyle
corespondent a chance.
809
00:32:20,522 --> 00:32:22,440
I gave the media critic
a chance.
810
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,317
I gave very one of your
811
00:32:24,317 --> 00:32:26,862
club footed mutants a chance,
812
00:32:26,862 --> 00:32:28,363
and what did they do?
Embarrass me!
813
00:32:28,363 --> 00:32:29,614
Network suit: Okay, c'mon,
calm down!
814
00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:30,657
Tapman: I will not
815
00:32:30,657 --> 00:32:32,367
stand by and watch him
816
00:32:32,367 --> 00:32:34,244
flush this show down the toilet!
817
00:32:34,244 --> 00:32:36,121
I've put too many years
into it for that!
818
00:32:37,622 --> 00:32:38,874
[exhales]
819
00:32:38,874 --> 00:32:40,458
- Tough night?
- Bad morning.
820
00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:42,210
I think I just
lost my innocence.
821
00:32:42,210 --> 00:32:43,253
Oh, leave it to me, honey.
822
00:32:43,253 --> 00:32:44,296
You'll be a virgin again
823
00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:45,714
in no time.
824
00:32:45,714 --> 00:32:46,923
Life in the war zone, huh?
825
00:32:46,923 --> 00:32:48,758
Is it always this
bad around here?
826
00:32:48,758 --> 00:32:50,051
Oh, Tapman and Ken have been
827
00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:51,469
gunning for
each other all season.
828
00:32:51,469 --> 00:32:52,971
See, Tapman wants Ken out,
829
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:55,307
so naturally everybody
Ken brings to the show
830
00:32:55,307 --> 00:32:56,266
has to be wrong.
831
00:32:57,601 --> 00:32:59,269
That explains a lot.
832
00:32:59,269 --> 00:33:00,562
Yeah. So don't take it personal.
833
00:33:01,855 --> 00:33:03,565
Well, I guess it happens.
834
00:33:03,565 --> 00:33:06,151
The wrong guy in the
wrong place at the wrong time.
835
00:33:06,151 --> 00:33:08,153
Arnie, baby, you are innocent!
836
00:33:08,153 --> 00:33:09,779
Don't you know,
there are no accidents?
837
00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:11,156
What do you mean?
838
00:33:11,156 --> 00:33:13,325
You were God's gift to Tapman.
839
00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:16,077
Everything he needed
to force a face-off with Ken.
840
00:33:16,077 --> 00:33:19,247
Trust me on this, you
did not just drop into his lap.
841
00:33:19,247 --> 00:33:20,290
Somebody planned this.
842
00:33:21,791 --> 00:33:24,669
You watch. If Tapman
leaves first, he lost.
843
00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:26,713
Now if Ken leaves
first, he's gone.
844
00:33:26,713 --> 00:33:28,465
But if network leaves,
845
00:33:28,465 --> 00:33:30,467
it's status quo, they'll
live to fight another day.
846
00:33:30,467 --> 00:33:31,718
And if Ken goes, I go.
847
00:33:31,718 --> 00:33:33,595
At the speed of light.
848
00:33:33,595 --> 00:33:35,847
Everybody around here know about
this except me?
849
00:33:35,847 --> 00:33:37,599
Everybody feels for you because
850
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:39,309
we all know you're a nice
guy and you don't deserve it.
851
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,603
Man: ...okay?
852
00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:45,523
[sighs]
853
00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:47,734
Sorry, honey.
854
00:33:48,818 --> 00:33:49,861
You're toast.
855
00:33:51,529 --> 00:33:53,531
How can the Government
claim they are not
856
00:33:53,531 --> 00:33:56,368
responsible for the
murder of Catherine Phillips?
857
00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:58,787
Because they didn't strike
the blows that killed her?
858
00:33:58,787 --> 00:34:00,080
C.J.: Because they didn't
brutally
859
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,706
rape her before she died?
860
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:02,958
No, the Government did not
861
00:34:02,958 --> 00:34:05,502
commit those horrible crimes.
862
00:34:05,502 --> 00:34:06,962
But they made it possible
863
00:34:06,962 --> 00:34:09,381
for Louis Videro to commit them.
864
00:34:09,381 --> 00:34:11,132
They took a vicious criminal,
865
00:34:11,132 --> 00:34:12,550
they gave him his freedom
866
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:14,302
and they protected him better
867
00:34:14,302 --> 00:34:16,972
than they protected the innocent
people around him.
868
00:34:16,972 --> 00:34:18,974
The Government had
two chances to prevent
869
00:34:18,974 --> 00:34:20,809
the death of Catherine Phillips
870
00:34:20,809 --> 00:34:22,560
but they chose not to.
871
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,271
They knew Videro
was back on drugs.
872
00:34:24,271 --> 00:34:25,939
According to their own rules,
873
00:34:25,939 --> 00:34:28,400
he should've been thrown
out of the program then...
874
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,318
but he wasn't.
875
00:34:30,318 --> 00:34:32,070
Even when the U.S. Attorney
876
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:34,531
knew Videro might
have murdered a woman
877
00:34:34,531 --> 00:34:36,283
still they did nothing.
878
00:34:36,283 --> 00:34:39,619
They kept Louis Videro in
the Witness Protection Program
879
00:34:39,619 --> 00:34:42,497
and it cost
Catherine Phillips her life.
880
00:34:42,497 --> 00:34:44,499
Why does the Government
want the circumstances
881
00:34:44,499 --> 00:34:46,209
of her murder kept secret?
882
00:34:46,209 --> 00:34:50,088
Because the Government was
grossly negligent, Your Honor.
883
00:34:50,088 --> 00:34:53,216
It acted with callous disregard
for the lives of its citizens.
884
00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:55,760
But for that negligence...
885
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,804
Catherine Phillips
would still be alive.
886
00:35:03,768 --> 00:35:06,396
Your Honor, if
you have any doubt
887
00:35:06,396 --> 00:35:09,065
what the drug trade
is doing to this country
888
00:35:09,065 --> 00:35:10,525
you've only to look
at our inner cities,
889
00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:12,402
or any suburb, or small town.
890
00:35:12,402 --> 00:35:13,820
Reisman: It's everywhere.
891
00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:15,530
It's a national disaster.
892
00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:18,283
It touches every
part of our society.
893
00:35:18,283 --> 00:35:21,911
It drains our criminal justice
system, fills our prisons,
894
00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:23,872
robs families of loved ones.
895
00:35:23,872 --> 00:35:27,292
Delivers babies in
agony and addicted.
896
00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:30,545
It destroys thousands, maybe
millions of peoples lives.
897
00:35:30,545 --> 00:35:32,380
Without witnesses
like Louis Videro,
898
00:35:32,380 --> 00:35:35,508
we have no hope of ever
stopping this drug trade.
899
00:35:35,508 --> 00:35:37,260
It's a risk that must be taken.
900
00:35:39,596 --> 00:35:41,181
This is a battle,
901
00:35:41,181 --> 00:35:42,599
whose sole purpose
902
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:44,768
is to protect the
people of this nation.
903
00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:46,644
People like Catherine Phillips.
904
00:35:46,644 --> 00:35:50,899
The last thing we ever wanted
was for this war to claim her.
905
00:35:50,899 --> 00:35:52,650
But, the sad fact is,
906
00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:54,277
in any war...
907
00:35:54,277 --> 00:35:55,570
there will be casualties.
908
00:35:59,532 --> 00:36:01,117
I know you don't wanna talk
about this.
909
00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:02,660
So I will just do
all the yappin'
910
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:04,371
and you could,
y'know, maybe just listen.
911
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:09,834
I do love and need Zoey...
912
00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:12,921
more than I admit to
her or even myself,
913
00:36:12,921 --> 00:36:15,965
a hell of a lot more than
I feel like admittin' to you.
914
00:36:15,965 --> 00:36:19,427
Maybe you love her more,
I doubt it, but could be.
915
00:36:19,427 --> 00:36:22,055
I know I know
her more than you do.
916
00:36:22,055 --> 00:36:23,848
In and out of marriage
I know her pretty good,
917
00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:24,974
and knowin' her...
918
00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:29,187
I ain't ever seen her so happy
919
00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:30,688
as since she started
920
00:36:30,688 --> 00:36:32,857
hangin' around with you.
921
00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:35,360
That's part of the reason
why I feel so threatened
922
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,654
is cause you and her feel right.
923
00:36:37,654 --> 00:36:39,322
It's not that simple, Tommy.
924
00:36:39,322 --> 00:36:42,367
Oh, yeah, it's definitely
that simple. You love her.
925
00:36:42,367 --> 00:36:44,786
She loves you. Simple.
926
00:36:44,786 --> 00:36:46,496
Mullaney:
Don't let go of her, Jonathan.
927
00:36:46,496 --> 00:36:48,081
I could never
take your place, man.
928
00:36:48,081 --> 00:36:50,291
Oh, you don't want my place.
929
00:36:50,291 --> 00:36:51,626
You want yours.
930
00:36:51,626 --> 00:36:53,461
Tom, don't you see,
part of the reason
931
00:36:53,461 --> 00:36:54,587
you're even here right now
932
00:36:54,587 --> 00:36:55,880
is that you still love her.
933
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,882
- Yeah, I do!
- You're not over--
934
00:36:57,882 --> 00:36:59,968
And part of really
lovin' somebody
935
00:36:59,968 --> 00:37:02,345
is wanting what
is best for that person.
936
00:37:02,345 --> 00:37:03,805
I'm here now
937
00:37:03,805 --> 00:37:07,225
'cause I know what's
best for Zoey is you.
938
00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:08,560
I know you're hurt,
939
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,187
but let that woman get away...
940
00:37:11,187 --> 00:37:12,564
then you'll know hurt.
941
00:37:18,945 --> 00:37:20,905
[distant phone ringing]
942
00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:22,198
Judge Hansen:
There's no question that
943
00:37:22,198 --> 00:37:23,950
the government
was negligent here.
944
00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:26,369
Any parent would treat
their child's drug use
945
00:37:26,369 --> 00:37:28,746
with more concern
than that shown by
946
00:37:28,746 --> 00:37:31,416
those supervising Louis Videro.
947
00:37:31,416 --> 00:37:34,502
But in establishing
the Witness Protection Program,
948
00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:36,796
Congress failed to
issue any guidelines
949
00:37:36,796 --> 00:37:39,716
restricting the Justice
Department's operation.
950
00:37:39,716 --> 00:37:41,551
From that, I must conclude
951
00:37:41,551 --> 00:37:44,095
that they intended
to allow full discretion
952
00:37:44,095 --> 00:37:45,555
in both the selection
953
00:37:45,555 --> 00:37:48,349
and supervision
of these witnesses.
954
00:37:48,349 --> 00:37:50,226
Under the law as it exists,
955
00:37:50,226 --> 00:37:53,646
negligence, even
this gross negligence
956
00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:56,357
isn't enough to sustain a claim.
957
00:37:56,357 --> 00:37:58,067
And the plaintiff has
not shown that the government
958
00:37:58,067 --> 00:38:00,778
intended to cause
Mrs. Phillips' death.
959
00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:02,489
Therefore, I'm granting the
960
00:38:02,489 --> 00:38:04,616
defendant's motion to dismiss.
961
00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:07,452
As for this gag order,
I see nothing in this record
962
00:38:07,452 --> 00:38:09,412
that jeopardizes the
Witness Protection Program
963
00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:11,539
or threatens the lives of
its participants.
964
00:38:11,539 --> 00:38:13,792
So I'm denying the
government's request
965
00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:15,084
for a permanent injunction.
966
00:38:15,084 --> 00:38:16,794
The order is hereby lifted
967
00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:19,380
and this transcript
made part of the public record.
968
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:21,090
The parties are free
to talk to the press.
969
00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:23,176
Your Honor, we move
for a stay pending appeal.
970
00:38:23,176 --> 00:38:26,387
Opposed. Your Honor, we've
argued this over and over again.
971
00:38:26,387 --> 00:38:28,431
I have no choice, Ms. Lamb.
972
00:38:28,431 --> 00:38:31,017
The stay is granted.
Until a further ruling,
973
00:38:31,017 --> 00:38:32,977
the gag order will
remain in place.
974
00:38:32,977 --> 00:38:34,187
Judge Hansen:
This case is adjourned.
975
00:38:42,028 --> 00:38:43,071
Arnie!
976
00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:45,031
Welcome back.
977
00:38:46,032 --> 00:38:47,867
I heard what happened.
978
00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:50,328
I think they were
idiots to let you go.
979
00:38:50,328 --> 00:38:52,956
No. More like I was the idiot.
980
00:38:52,956 --> 00:38:54,707
I don't follow you, babe.
981
00:38:54,707 --> 00:38:56,459
I didn't do my homework.
982
00:38:56,459 --> 00:38:59,003
I let you stroke me,
pump me full of smoke.
983
00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:01,214
I don't know what you're talkin'
about but it sounds sexy.
984
00:39:01,214 --> 00:39:02,632
Listen, can we continue this--
985
00:39:02,632 --> 00:39:04,300
Brooks Tapman
is a client of yours!
986
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:05,677
I didn't mention that?
987
00:39:05,677 --> 00:39:07,428
You maneuvered Ken
Feldman into hiring me,
988
00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:09,013
so Tapman could
use me against him.
989
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:11,432
Use me as a weapon
to get Ken Feldman fired.
990
00:39:11,432 --> 00:39:12,767
You set me up.
991
00:39:12,767 --> 00:39:15,353
- So?
- S-- "so?"
992
00:39:16,104 --> 00:39:17,981
You used me!
993
00:39:17,981 --> 00:39:19,190
You manipulated me!
994
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:20,817
That's right.
995
00:39:20,817 --> 00:39:24,529
I manipulated you into taking
$600,000 a year job.
996
00:39:24,529 --> 00:39:26,489
They'll cash you
out at 50 cents on the dollar
997
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:27,699
for the first option, period.
998
00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:29,325
You'll walk with a 150 grand
999
00:39:29,325 --> 00:39:31,786
for two weeks work.
Where are your damages, Arnie?
1000
00:39:31,786 --> 00:39:34,038
I was humiliated on
network television!
1001
00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:36,124
Damage to the ego
heals fast, take it from me.
1002
00:39:36,124 --> 00:39:38,376
Damage to your reputation?
Don't flatter yourself.
1003
00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,086
Two weeks from now people
won't even remember you were on.
1004
00:39:40,086 --> 00:39:41,379
That is not the point!
1005
00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:43,381
By the way, KCYB
called yesterday.
1006
00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:46,134
I told them you might possibly
be interested in coming back.
1007
00:39:46,134 --> 00:39:49,262
I got 'em to bump your
salary 15% plus perks.
1008
00:39:49,262 --> 00:39:50,430
Deal memo's in the mail.
1009
00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:54,142
I gotta fly. Ciao, babe.
1010
00:39:54,142 --> 00:39:57,061
[instrumental music]
1011
00:40:04,777 --> 00:40:05,820
[knock on door]
1012
00:40:13,202 --> 00:40:14,704
Hi.
1013
00:40:14,704 --> 00:40:17,582
[sighs]
I'm sorry.
1014
00:40:17,582 --> 00:40:19,667
Don't tell me you're sorry,
tell me you're back.
1015
00:40:41,105 --> 00:40:43,274
- I have conditions.
- I know.
1016
00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:45,109
No ex-husbands in the bed.
1017
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:47,779
And I don't want him hiding in
the bathroom with a gun, either.
1018
00:40:50,323 --> 00:40:52,325
He is a part of my life.
1019
00:40:52,325 --> 00:40:53,952
You have to remember that,
Jonathan.
1020
00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:56,996
Yeah. And what you
need to keep in mind...
1021
00:40:56,996 --> 00:40:59,374
is, so am I. Alright?
1022
00:41:06,881 --> 00:41:09,842
[distant shouting]
1023
00:41:11,886 --> 00:41:14,847
[indistinct shouting]
1024
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:23,690
Bad news.
1025
00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:25,191
We lost the appeal.
1026
00:41:25,191 --> 00:41:26,693
- The gag order's permanent.
- Ah...
1027
00:41:27,652 --> 00:41:29,028
[indistinct shouting]
1028
00:41:29,028 --> 00:41:30,488
They're getting pretty restless.
1029
00:41:30,488 --> 00:41:32,323
Uh, give us a minute, please.
1030
00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:33,783
[distant shouting continues]
1031
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,290
I'm not backing down.
1032
00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:43,835
I want people to know
what those bastards did.
1033
00:41:43,835 --> 00:41:46,212
You would be defying a
court order, Mr. Phillips.
1034
00:41:46,212 --> 00:41:48,673
If you speak to those reporters,
1035
00:41:48,673 --> 00:41:50,049
you'll be held in contempt.
1036
00:41:50,049 --> 00:41:51,551
I don't care.
1037
00:41:51,551 --> 00:41:52,593
Let'em put me in jail.
1038
00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:57,140
I miss my wife, Mr. McKenzie.
1039
00:41:57,140 --> 00:41:59,600
I want her death
to mean something.
1040
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,270
And I'm tired
of playing by the rules.
1041
00:42:02,270 --> 00:42:04,230
But I understand
why you have to.
1042
00:42:06,065 --> 00:42:08,443
If you say so, I'll talk
to them somewhere else.
1043
00:42:08,443 --> 00:42:09,944
I can't answer for the firm.
1044
00:42:11,237 --> 00:42:13,656
Douglas and I feel that our...
1045
00:42:13,656 --> 00:42:17,410
risk here is minimal, as long
as Ms. Lamb doesn't participate.
1046
00:42:19,287 --> 00:42:20,288
Well...
1047
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:24,751
Thank you.
1048
00:42:30,256 --> 00:42:31,257
Thank you.
1049
00:42:37,513 --> 00:42:38,931
reporter #1: There he is.
Mr. Philips...
1050
00:42:38,931 --> 00:42:41,267
You've done
everything you can...
1051
00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:43,019
within the law.
1052
00:42:43,019 --> 00:42:45,480
If he wants to go beyond that,
that's up to him.
1053
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,732
But you have no choice.
1054
00:42:47,732 --> 00:42:50,526
Ladies and gentlemen, I want
to tell you how my wife died.
1055
00:42:50,526 --> 00:42:52,487
[reporters shushing]
1056
00:42:52,487 --> 00:42:54,822
She was raped
and beaten to death...
1057
00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:56,824
by a criminal that the
United States Government
1058
00:42:56,824 --> 00:42:58,076
put back on the street.
1059
00:42:59,243 --> 00:43:01,329
His name is Louis Videro.
1060
00:43:01,329 --> 00:43:02,371
Phillips: He was a murderer...
1061
00:43:02,371 --> 00:43:03,498
You made the right decision.
1062
00:43:04,874 --> 00:43:06,250
Then tell me, Leland.
1063
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:07,877
Why do I feel
like such a coward?
1064
00:43:07,877 --> 00:43:09,754
Phillips: They were
aware of his drug abuse.
1065
00:43:09,754 --> 00:43:11,672
And yet they
chose to do nothing.
1066
00:43:11,672 --> 00:43:13,299
reporter #2: Did
you get an apology?
1067
00:43:13,299 --> 00:43:14,509
reporter #3: Did they
give you any kinda context?
1068
00:43:18,221 --> 00:43:21,182
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