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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,533 --> 00:00:01,966 [TV static drones] 2 00:00:02,033 --> 00:00:05,000 [bright tone] 3 00:00:05,066 --> 00:00:08,000 [upbeat rock music] 4 00:00:08,066 --> 00:00:15,133 ♪ ♪ 5 00:00:29,466 --> 00:00:32,033 - Welcome, welcome, welcome to "Last Week Tonight." 6 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:34,533 I'm John Oliver. Thank you so much for joining us. 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,966 It's been a busy week, 8 00:00:36,033 --> 00:00:39,000 from the US vetoing a ceasefire in Gaza, yet again, 9 00:00:39,066 --> 00:00:40,866 to the revelation that Joe Biden's dog 10 00:00:40,933 --> 00:00:45,000 bit Secret Service agents at least 24 different times. 11 00:00:45,066 --> 00:00:46,433 But we're going to start in West Virginia, 12 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:48,333 which has spent the past several weeks 13 00:00:48,433 --> 00:00:50,233 debating a bill to impose criminal penalties 14 00:00:50,300 --> 00:00:53,133 for exposing children to obscene literature 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,333 in schools and libraries. 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,233 The debate has featured some spectacular testimony 17 00:00:57,300 --> 00:00:59,000 from concerned citizens reading out 18 00:00:59,066 --> 00:01:00,966 material that they objected to. 19 00:01:01,033 --> 00:01:02,833 - "'Are you going to eat her pussy?' 20 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:05,465 'Yeah, I'm going to eat her pussy.' 21 00:01:05,533 --> 00:01:10,333 'Hey, yeah. Do you even know how to eat pussy? 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,033 Papa Gaines never sat you down, said 'son, one day, 23 00:01:14,100 --> 00:01:16,333 you're going to have to eat the pussy?' 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,900 'No, but he did teach me how to eat a butthole.'" 25 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:26,133 - Look. 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,666 I admit, I don't remember that scene from The Giving Tree, 27 00:01:28,733 --> 00:01:30,500 but it's been a while. 28 00:01:30,566 --> 00:01:32,033 And in retrospect, it does make sense 29 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:33,366 for the tree to sit the boy down 30 00:01:33,433 --> 00:01:35,000 and explain how to rock the box. 31 00:01:35,066 --> 00:01:36,633 It's an important lesson. 32 00:01:36,700 --> 00:01:38,400 But while that hearing was clearly ridiculous, 33 00:01:38,466 --> 00:01:40,300 the law itself is serious. 34 00:01:40,366 --> 00:01:42,033 Violating it could carry a felony charge 35 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:44,600 with a penalty of $25,000 36 00:01:44,666 --> 00:01:46,566 and a sentence of up to five years. 37 00:01:46,633 --> 00:01:47,800 Many have called it a book ban, 38 00:01:47,866 --> 00:01:49,765 although the bill's backers push back on that, 39 00:01:49,833 --> 00:01:51,500 with one of the speakers who supported it saying, 40 00:01:51,566 --> 00:01:54,566 "We are not banning or burning. We are protecting." 41 00:01:54,666 --> 00:01:55,633 Although I'll tell you what 42 00:01:55,733 --> 00:01:56,966 you're definitely not protecting. 43 00:01:57,066 --> 00:02:00,133 That is my ears from hearing "eat the pussy" four times 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,966 out of this woman's mouth. 45 00:02:02,033 --> 00:02:04,633 But while West Virginia may not be burning books, 46 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:06,433 obscenity bills and similar moral panics 47 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:08,133 are spreading around the country 48 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:09,633 in places like Missouri, 49 00:02:09,699 --> 00:02:12,366 where a candidate for office released this video. 50 00:02:12,433 --> 00:02:14,066 - This is what I will do to the grooming books 51 00:02:14,133 --> 00:02:15,666 when I become secretary of state. 52 00:02:15,733 --> 00:02:18,633 - ♪ Let's go. Welcome to the main event ♪ 53 00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:20,600 ♪ Applying pressure, but I promise... ♪ 54 00:02:20,666 --> 00:02:22,733 - These books come from a Missouri Public Library. 55 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,800 When I'm in office, they will burn. 56 00:02:24,866 --> 00:02:27,666 - OK. So there is a lot not to like there, 57 00:02:27,733 --> 00:02:29,666 including that her flamethrower is apparently 58 00:02:29,766 --> 00:02:34,100 fueled by liberal tears, which what? 59 00:02:34,166 --> 00:02:36,166 I'm not saying the GOP's messaging is in disarray, 60 00:02:36,233 --> 00:02:38,633 but are liberal tears the thing you love to drink 61 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:41,033 because your enemy's sadness tastes so sweet, 62 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:42,733 or is it the deadly fuel for 63 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,133 your very cool shark-themed flamethrower? 64 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,000 Because you've got to pick a fucking lane there. 65 00:02:48,066 --> 00:02:49,500 But for now, let's turn to Alabama, 66 00:02:49,566 --> 00:02:51,433 which has been reeling after a major decision 67 00:02:51,500 --> 00:02:52,733 from its highest court. 68 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,033 - This morning, a first-of-its-kind decision 69 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:57,433 by the Alabama Supreme Court that could 70 00:02:57,500 --> 00:02:59,700 put families' access to fertility treatments 71 00:02:59,766 --> 00:03:02,333 in the post-Roe era at risk. 72 00:03:02,433 --> 00:03:04,666 The court determining frozen embryos 73 00:03:04,733 --> 00:03:05,966 qualify as people 74 00:03:06,033 --> 00:03:07,433 under its state law, 75 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:09,266 ruling "unborn children are 76 00:03:09,333 --> 00:03:11,000 "children without exception 77 00:03:11,066 --> 00:03:12,933 based on developmental stage." 78 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,233 - Yeah, they ruled frozen embryos 79 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:16,333 are the same as people, 80 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,666 which is wrong for a bunch of reasons. 81 00:03:17,733 --> 00:03:20,733 Mainly, if you freeze an embryo, it's fine. 82 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,366 If you freeze a person, you have some explaining to do. 83 00:03:24,433 --> 00:03:27,066 Now, that ruling could have massive implications 84 00:03:27,133 --> 00:03:29,400 for anyone who needs IVF to conceive, 85 00:03:29,466 --> 00:03:31,033 and that is a lot of people. 86 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:34,800 Around 2% of babies born in the US are from IVF. 87 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:36,766 Already multiple fertility clinics 88 00:03:36,866 --> 00:03:39,100 have paused treatment in the wake of this decision, 89 00:03:39,166 --> 00:03:42,166 which, as anyone who's ever undergone IVF will tell you, 90 00:03:42,233 --> 00:03:44,166 isn't something you can just do. 91 00:03:44,233 --> 00:03:46,800 IVF cycles take weeks of careful monitoring 92 00:03:46,866 --> 00:03:47,933 and expensive treatments. 93 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,200 You can't just hit pause and wait out a court case. 94 00:03:51,266 --> 00:03:52,700 This is a seismic decision. 95 00:03:52,766 --> 00:03:54,600 And the reason the court was hearing this case 96 00:03:54,666 --> 00:03:56,966 to begin with was pretty wild. 97 00:03:57,033 --> 00:03:59,100 - The case in question involved a patient 98 00:03:59,166 --> 00:04:01,066 who managed to access the freezer 99 00:04:01,133 --> 00:04:04,566 storing frozen embryos at an Alabama fertility clinic. 100 00:04:04,633 --> 00:04:07,133 The patient picked up multiple embryos 101 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,833 and mistakenly dropped and destroyed them. 102 00:04:10,233 --> 00:04:12,500 - Yet the court ruled that the clinic could be sued 103 00:04:12,566 --> 00:04:14,100 for wrongful death. 104 00:04:14,166 --> 00:04:16,100 And while that accident is genuinely horrible, 105 00:04:16,166 --> 00:04:17,832 someone wandering into a lab 106 00:04:17,899 --> 00:04:21,266 and dropping frozen embryos just isn't murder. 107 00:04:21,332 --> 00:04:22,533 If anything, it sounds like the script 108 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,033 for a pretty tasteless Mr. Bean sequel, but that is it. 109 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:29,566 And look, the reason clinics are pausing treatment 110 00:04:29,633 --> 00:04:31,766 right now is that nobody quite knows what it could mean 111 00:04:31,832 --> 00:04:34,533 for an embryo to be legally equivalent to a person 112 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:35,800 going forward. 113 00:04:35,866 --> 00:04:37,966 What happens if an embryo is stored improperly? 114 00:04:38,033 --> 00:04:39,832 What if they're, as inevitably happens, 115 00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:42,966 left over or destroyed in the implantation process? 116 00:04:43,066 --> 00:04:44,500 What about genetic testing, 117 00:04:44,566 --> 00:04:45,800 which can reduce the risk of miscarriage, 118 00:04:45,866 --> 00:04:48,466 but does carry a slight risk of damaging embryos? 119 00:04:48,533 --> 00:04:51,300 Would that now be considered a wrongful death? 120 00:04:51,366 --> 00:04:52,700 It is chaos. 121 00:04:52,766 --> 00:04:54,666 And experts say that courts in other states 122 00:04:54,733 --> 00:04:56,566 could try and issue similar rulings. 123 00:04:56,633 --> 00:04:59,366 But none of this should be that surprising. 124 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:01,566 This ruling is a natural outgrowth of the concept 125 00:05:01,633 --> 00:05:03,533 of fetal personhood, 126 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,866 long pushed by hardline anti-abortion groups, 127 00:05:05,933 --> 00:05:08,566 which Republicans have spent decades courting. 128 00:05:08,633 --> 00:05:11,033 And some politicians suddenly seem alarmed 129 00:05:11,100 --> 00:05:13,466 to have to deal with the consequences of a movement 130 00:05:13,533 --> 00:05:15,066 that they have actively empowered. 131 00:05:15,166 --> 00:05:16,766 Nikki Haley, for instance, spent the week 132 00:05:16,866 --> 00:05:18,300 trying to reconcile her position that, 133 00:05:18,366 --> 00:05:19,832 "when you're talking about an embryo, 134 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:22,200 you're talking about a life," 135 00:05:22,266 --> 00:05:25,266 with what that actually means in legal terms. 136 00:05:25,332 --> 00:05:27,933 Meanwhile watch as Alabama Senator Tommy Tuberville 137 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,500 seemed to realize the problems with his position in real time. 138 00:05:31,733 --> 00:05:34,533 - Do you have a reaction to the Alabama Supreme Court ruling 139 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,900 on the fact that embryos are children? 140 00:05:36,966 --> 00:05:38,100 - Yeah, I was all for it. 141 00:05:38,166 --> 00:05:39,300 We need to have more kids. 142 00:05:39,366 --> 00:05:41,200 We need to have an opportunity to do that. 143 00:05:41,266 --> 00:05:43,100 And I thought this was the right thing to do. 144 00:05:43,166 --> 00:05:45,300 - But IVF is used to have more children. 145 00:05:45,366 --> 00:05:47,200 And right now, IVF services are paused 146 00:05:47,266 --> 00:05:48,566 at some of the clinics in Alabama. 147 00:05:48,666 --> 00:05:50,700 Aren't you concerned that this could impact people 148 00:05:50,766 --> 00:05:52,500 who are trying to have kids? 149 00:05:52,566 --> 00:05:55,266 - Well, that's for--that's for another conversation. 150 00:06:03,933 --> 00:06:06,366 - Well... 151 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:09,133 that's a hard one. It really is. It's really hard. 152 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Because again, you want people to have that opportunity. 153 00:06:12,066 --> 00:06:15,266 And that's what I was telling her, we need more kids. 154 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:18,000 - Well, guess what, Tommy? I got great news. 155 00:06:18,066 --> 00:06:20,900 Since your political philosophy seems to begin and end with, 156 00:06:20,966 --> 00:06:23,066 we need more kids, you'll be thrilled to know that, 157 00:06:23,166 --> 00:06:24,200 thanks to a judge in Alabama, 158 00:06:24,266 --> 00:06:26,800 there's now whole freezers full of them. 159 00:06:26,866 --> 00:06:29,600 Go play with all those frosty kids, senator. 160 00:06:29,666 --> 00:06:31,100 Or maybe that's not what you had in mind 161 00:06:31,166 --> 00:06:32,332 when you think of children, 162 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,966 which is exactly the fucking point here. 163 00:06:35,033 --> 00:06:36,733 Republicans are in a tough spot right now, 164 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,566 trying to hold on to hardline anti-abortion forces 165 00:06:39,633 --> 00:06:42,533 while not alienating the majority of Americans. 166 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,533 And maybe the best current example of this 167 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,633 is Donald Trump. 168 00:06:45,700 --> 00:06:47,066 He issued a statement this week 169 00:06:47,133 --> 00:06:49,400 that he strongly supports "the availability of IVF 170 00:06:49,466 --> 00:06:51,700 for couples who are trying to have a precious baby," 171 00:06:51,766 --> 00:06:54,832 something he referred to as the "ultimate joy in life," 172 00:06:54,933 --> 00:06:56,666 all caps, exclamation mark. 173 00:06:56,733 --> 00:07:00,733 And it's incredible how even objectively wholesome sentences 174 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,333 take on an air of creepiness when passed through 175 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,566 the chaotic Trump punctuation filter. 176 00:07:06,633 --> 00:07:08,233 Meanwhile, he's also been privately floating 177 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:11,500 a federal ban on abortion at the 16-week mark, 178 00:07:11,566 --> 00:07:14,366 reportedly saying, "know what I like about 16? 179 00:07:14,433 --> 00:07:16,200 It's even. It's four months." 180 00:07:16,266 --> 00:07:18,900 And I will say, starting any sentence with, 181 00:07:18,966 --> 00:07:21,133 "you know what I like about 16," 182 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,066 should be off limits for anyone who has this many photos 183 00:07:24,133 --> 00:07:26,100 with Jeffrey Epstein. 184 00:07:26,166 --> 00:07:29,933 But while Trump might think 16 weeks is the reasonable option, 185 00:07:30,033 --> 00:07:32,600 which it isn't, anti-abortion forces 186 00:07:32,666 --> 00:07:34,733 are hoping to use a second Trump term 187 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,832 to go much, much further. 188 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:38,433 One tool they're apparently eager to use 189 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:42,266 is the Comstock Act, an 1873 law that criminalizes 190 00:07:42,332 --> 00:07:44,733 the shipping of any materials used in an abortion, 191 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,666 including abortion pills, 192 00:07:46,733 --> 00:07:48,332 with one of Trump's lawyers saying, 193 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,400 "We don't need a federal ban 194 00:07:50,466 --> 00:07:52,933 when we have Comstock on the books." 195 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,332 It was one of the key pretexts 196 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,966 in last year's mifepristone ruling. 197 00:07:56,033 --> 00:07:58,233 And Lindsey Graham actually cited Comstock 198 00:07:58,300 --> 00:07:59,600 when defending it. 199 00:07:59,666 --> 00:08:02,566 - The idea of mailing the drug-- 200 00:08:02,666 --> 00:08:04,266 sending the drug through the mail 201 00:08:04,333 --> 00:08:07,133 runs into a statute called the Comstock Act. 202 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,300 - It's a very old statute on the books. 203 00:08:09,366 --> 00:08:12,200 Do you believe that the Supreme Court should use that 204 00:08:12,266 --> 00:08:16,500 as a way to ban this abortion pill? 205 00:08:17,966 --> 00:08:19,633 - Well, I think it's the law on the books. 206 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:22,433 - Look, I guess it's not that surprising that Graham's 207 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:25,133 endorsement of a law boils down to, "it's on the books," 208 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,266 given that "it's old and it's there" 209 00:08:27,332 --> 00:08:30,100 basically sums up Lindsey Graham at this point. 210 00:08:30,166 --> 00:08:31,600 He seems determined to stay in the Senate 211 00:08:31,666 --> 00:08:34,433 until he can complete his Animorph-style transformation 212 00:08:34,533 --> 00:08:37,133 into Beaker, and he's getting close. 213 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,500 He's only a couple of steps away. 214 00:08:39,566 --> 00:08:41,200 But he's right. The Comstock Act is 215 00:08:41,265 --> 00:08:43,866 technically on the books, meaning a Trump administration 216 00:08:43,933 --> 00:08:46,100 or the judges he appoints could try using it 217 00:08:46,165 --> 00:08:49,633 to restrict abortion without going through Congress, 218 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:52,066 which is both alarming and something many pro-life figures 219 00:08:52,133 --> 00:08:54,266 are anxious to keep quiet for now. 220 00:08:54,333 --> 00:08:56,066 That Trump lawyer that I mentioned earlier 221 00:08:56,133 --> 00:08:57,433 even said of him, 222 00:08:57,500 --> 00:09:00,500 "I hope he doesn't know about the existence of Comstock 223 00:09:00,566 --> 00:09:03,400 "because I just don't want him to shoot off his mouth. 224 00:09:03,466 --> 00:09:06,166 "I think the pro-life groups should keep their mouths shut 225 00:09:06,233 --> 00:09:08,566 as much as possible until the election." 226 00:09:08,666 --> 00:09:11,266 But whenever they don't want to talk about something, 227 00:09:11,333 --> 00:09:13,200 it's probably worth you knowing about it. 228 00:09:13,266 --> 00:09:15,600 So for the record, the Comstock Act 229 00:09:15,666 --> 00:09:17,200 is named after Anthony Comstock, 230 00:09:17,266 --> 00:09:20,600 a 19th century anti-sex crusader and postal inspector 231 00:09:20,666 --> 00:09:24,133 who was, and I quote, a "chronic masturbator" 232 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,066 who believed it was physically harmful, 233 00:09:26,133 --> 00:09:28,366 so launched a crusade to stamp out the transmission 234 00:09:28,433 --> 00:09:30,500 and transportation of all obscene material." 235 00:09:30,566 --> 00:09:33,266 And imagine jerking off so much, 236 00:09:33,333 --> 00:09:37,300 you make it a matter of national security. 237 00:09:37,366 --> 00:09:39,900 The Comstock Act forbade sending by mail 238 00:09:39,966 --> 00:09:42,266 "every obscene, lewd, lascivious, indecent, 239 00:09:42,333 --> 00:09:45,566 filthy or vile article, matter, thing, device, or substance," 240 00:09:45,633 --> 00:09:47,900 as well as "every article or thing 241 00:09:47,966 --> 00:09:51,400 designed, adapted or intended for producing abortion." 242 00:09:51,466 --> 00:09:54,133 That is the clause abortion opponents 243 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,100 have been using on Mifepristone. 244 00:09:56,165 --> 00:09:58,466 And they hope to expand it to cover the shipping 245 00:09:58,533 --> 00:10:01,100 of literally anything an abortion requires. 246 00:10:01,166 --> 00:10:03,700 So the Comstock Act is a wild law 247 00:10:03,766 --> 00:10:07,966 pushed for by a deeply weird, dangerously horny man 248 00:10:08,033 --> 00:10:10,766 that may soon be determining all our reproductive freedoms. 249 00:10:10,833 --> 00:10:13,400 And it's worth noting that Comstock was also a leader 250 00:10:13,466 --> 00:10:16,000 in the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice, 251 00:10:16,100 --> 00:10:17,566 whose seal, fun fact, 252 00:10:17,633 --> 00:10:20,033 depicted someone burning books, 253 00:10:20,100 --> 00:10:22,500 which, to be fair, conservatives don't do anymore. 254 00:10:22,566 --> 00:10:26,000 As we all know, they use flamethrowers now. 255 00:10:26,066 --> 00:10:27,233 And that is the thing that ties 256 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:29,500 everything I've just talked about here together. 257 00:10:29,566 --> 00:10:31,966 There are politicians currently desperately trying 258 00:10:32,033 --> 00:10:34,200 to distance themselves from extreme policies 259 00:10:34,266 --> 00:10:36,400 that they have enabled. 260 00:10:36,466 --> 00:10:40,165 You can say, we're not trying to ban or burn books, 261 00:10:40,233 --> 00:10:41,700 but that's what's happening. 262 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:43,600 You can say, we just want more kids, 263 00:10:43,665 --> 00:10:45,400 but you're making life incredibly hard 264 00:10:45,466 --> 00:10:48,833 for people, including those who desperately want them. 265 00:10:48,933 --> 00:10:51,566 Burning books and ending IVF are the natural endpoints 266 00:10:51,633 --> 00:10:53,566 of the extreme policies they've held hands with. 267 00:10:53,633 --> 00:10:55,766 And if they are not at least willing 268 00:10:55,833 --> 00:10:57,533 to own those consequences, 269 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,700 then they can, in the words of what I believe to be 270 00:10:59,766 --> 00:11:02,000 this country's greatest public speaker-- 271 00:11:02,066 --> 00:11:04,733 - Eat a butthole. - Well said. 272 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,300 Well said, indeed. 273 00:11:06,366 --> 00:11:08,633 And now this. 274 00:11:08,866 --> 00:11:12,400 - And now, more explicit readings 275 00:11:12,466 --> 00:11:15,800 from concerned citizens at public meetings. 276 00:11:15,866 --> 00:11:18,433 - "The boy just talked soft to her about how good she looked 277 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:19,600 "and things like that. 278 00:11:19,666 --> 00:11:21,466 "And she grabbed his penis with her hands 279 00:11:21,533 --> 00:11:22,466 and started moving it." 280 00:11:22,566 --> 00:11:25,100 - "It felt so good, so fucking good. 281 00:11:25,166 --> 00:11:27,400 "I don't know how people do anything but have sex 282 00:11:27,466 --> 00:11:30,400 if they are adults and don't have school or parents." 283 00:11:30,466 --> 00:11:32,733 - "Billy was on top of Valencia, making love to her. 284 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,366 "While Billy was making love to her, 285 00:11:34,433 --> 00:11:37,000 "Billy made a noise like a small rusty hinge. 286 00:11:37,066 --> 00:11:39,433 He had just emptied his seminal vesicles into Valencia." 287 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:41,800 - "Now, before this, I'd sucked my share of dicks 288 00:11:41,866 --> 00:11:44,400 "and had gotten plenty of blowjobs, hand jobs, 289 00:11:44,466 --> 00:11:45,866 "every kind of job. 290 00:11:45,933 --> 00:11:49,000 "But the only butt sex I'd had was with this junior 291 00:11:49,066 --> 00:11:51,766 who was in love with my cock, and he just hopped aboard." 292 00:11:51,833 --> 00:11:54,333 - "And I pull and I suck until he grows hard 293 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,665 "and he makes sounds that means he likes it. 294 00:11:56,766 --> 00:11:58,300 "And I keep going and going. 295 00:11:58,366 --> 00:12:02,166 "And when he says, 'I'm going to cum,' I don't pull away. 296 00:12:02,233 --> 00:12:04,533 "The jet of him is warm and salty 297 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,300 and tastes like thickened sweat." 298 00:12:06,366 --> 00:12:10,500 - "You can eat a girl out and blow some air inside of her, 299 00:12:10,566 --> 00:12:12,200 or you can fuck her too hard." 300 00:12:12,266 --> 00:12:14,066 - "My only challenge is Brian, 301 00:12:14,133 --> 00:12:16,700 who is my jerk off friend who likes to jerk me off." 302 00:12:16,766 --> 00:12:18,033 - "Son, I don't have time for that. 303 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:20,933 "I got, like, 20 pussies over here that I need to eat. 304 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,166 Is that right? I'm on pussy deadline." 305 00:12:23,233 --> 00:12:25,366 - "I didn't have a hard-on anymore. 306 00:12:25,433 --> 00:12:27,333 "That might sound weird to say. 307 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,000 It's also fucking complicated and tragic, and life sucks." 308 00:12:31,066 --> 00:12:33,200 I just want to mention, I've never said the F word 309 00:12:33,266 --> 00:12:35,466 ever in my life before until just now, so. 310 00:12:35,533 --> 00:12:39,533 ♪ ♪ 311 00:12:40,366 --> 00:12:41,766 - Moving on. 312 00:12:41,833 --> 00:12:44,200 Our main story tonight concerns the internet. 313 00:12:44,266 --> 00:12:45,633 It can be a magical place 314 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:48,200 but also one where things aren't always what they seem, 315 00:12:48,266 --> 00:12:50,266 as this woman learned the hard way. 316 00:12:50,333 --> 00:12:53,000 - Queen Shaydonna Hainsworth thought she bought this, 317 00:12:53,066 --> 00:12:55,466 the Instagram ad displaying a tree 318 00:12:55,533 --> 00:12:58,366 that fits in a living room, not the palm of her hand. 319 00:12:58,433 --> 00:13:00,600 - Yo! 320 00:13:00,666 --> 00:13:04,966 [laughing] This is our rainbow Christmas tree. 321 00:13:05,033 --> 00:13:07,100 Like, seriously? 322 00:13:07,166 --> 00:13:09,333 Like, who-- [laughs] 323 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,466 who is responsible for this? 324 00:13:13,533 --> 00:13:15,766 - Yeah, it must be pretty disappointing 325 00:13:15,833 --> 00:13:19,800 to order a full size tree and get whatever that is. 326 00:13:19,866 --> 00:13:21,200 She must have felt like HBO did 327 00:13:21,266 --> 00:13:24,700 when they ordered a comedy show and got this instead. 328 00:13:24,766 --> 00:13:27,533 Unfortunately, not every mistake is that benign. 329 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,966 It is not news that there are scammers on the internet. 330 00:13:30,033 --> 00:13:31,966 But you may have noticed that one scam in particular 331 00:13:32,033 --> 00:13:33,566 is currently everywhere. 332 00:13:33,633 --> 00:13:35,500 A common way that it starts is with a weird text 333 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,333 from a number that you don't recognize, like, 334 00:13:37,433 --> 00:13:40,100 "Cheryl, can we move lunch to 5," when you're not Cheryl 335 00:13:40,165 --> 00:13:42,000 or, "Dave, what time is our flight," 336 00:13:42,066 --> 00:13:44,266 when you're not Dave and you don't have a flight booked. 337 00:13:44,333 --> 00:13:46,300 Even as we worked on this piece, 338 00:13:46,366 --> 00:13:48,165 multiple members of our staff and their friends 339 00:13:48,233 --> 00:13:49,800 were getting these messages from, 340 00:13:49,866 --> 00:13:52,633 "Hello, is this the manager Jesse from the flower shop?" 341 00:13:52,700 --> 00:13:54,633 to this one reading, "Is this Dr. John? 342 00:13:54,700 --> 00:13:57,665 I'm Emily. Is my horse recovering well?" 343 00:13:57,733 --> 00:14:00,133 And I'm so glad that wasn't sent to me 344 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,533 'cause it would have worked. 345 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,566 You're calling me Dr. John? I'm instantly on board. 346 00:14:05,633 --> 00:14:06,966 And you're assuming that I'm around a horse 347 00:14:07,066 --> 00:14:08,400 for medical reasons? 348 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:10,933 That's exactly what I've been saying. 349 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,633 I'm allowed to touch it like that. 350 00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:14,766 I'm a doctor. 351 00:14:14,833 --> 00:14:18,166 And I know most people ignore messages like those. 352 00:14:18,233 --> 00:14:21,233 But some write back, get sucked into a conversation, 353 00:14:21,300 --> 00:14:23,566 and eventually, through a process that we'll get into, 354 00:14:23,633 --> 00:14:25,733 can end up losing a lot of money. 355 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,200 It's a scam with a striking name 356 00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:29,933 that newscasters can't seem to get over. 357 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,600 - It's called a "pig butchering scam." 358 00:14:32,665 --> 00:14:34,700 And it might sound like a gruesome name, 359 00:14:34,766 --> 00:14:37,833 but that's because the amount of money victims are losing 360 00:14:37,900 --> 00:14:38,833 is painful. 361 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:40,966 - The scammers have a terrible term 362 00:14:41,066 --> 00:14:42,165 for what Wendy went through. 363 00:14:42,266 --> 00:14:43,900 They call it "pig butchering." 364 00:14:43,966 --> 00:14:46,566 - The New Mexico Securities Division calls them 365 00:14:46,633 --> 00:14:48,233 "pig butchering scams." 366 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:50,133 I know, but listen, don't worry. 367 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,466 There are no pigs or any other animals involved. 368 00:14:52,733 --> 00:14:53,966 - Yes, don't worry. 369 00:14:54,033 --> 00:14:56,266 There are no pigs harmed in this pig butchering scam, 370 00:14:56,333 --> 00:14:58,100 although if the words do make you squeamish, 371 00:14:58,165 --> 00:14:59,833 it's worth noting that there is a process 372 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:01,900 through which pigs are harmed every day. 373 00:15:01,966 --> 00:15:04,466 It's actually how we get bacon, pork and other products. 374 00:15:04,533 --> 00:15:06,000 It's called "pig butchering." 375 00:15:06,066 --> 00:15:09,200 And it's exactly what it sounds like. 376 00:15:09,266 --> 00:15:10,700 But the name makes a little more sense 377 00:15:10,766 --> 00:15:13,900 once you understand how the scam actually works. 378 00:15:13,966 --> 00:15:17,333 - In the world of cyber and counter-terrorism threats, 379 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,900 Special Agent Hassani has seen it all. 380 00:15:19,966 --> 00:15:24,900 But in 2021, he began seeing a new scam, pig butchering. 381 00:15:24,966 --> 00:15:28,333 - But it just refers to raising little piglets, 382 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,166 fattening them up, and butchering them. 383 00:15:31,233 --> 00:15:33,566 They're fattening up their victim with 384 00:15:33,633 --> 00:15:36,966 illusions of grandeur, of wealth, of love, 385 00:15:37,033 --> 00:15:39,633 before bleeding them dry. 386 00:15:39,700 --> 00:15:40,600 - That is rough. 387 00:15:40,665 --> 00:15:43,133 Because imagine being a victim of this scam, 388 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,933 turning on the news, and suddenly learning that 389 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,800 the shorthand for people in your situation is the pigs. 390 00:15:48,900 --> 00:15:50,266 Although I will say, it could have been worse. 391 00:15:50,333 --> 00:15:51,333 Pigs are awesome. 392 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,800 They're one of the most intelligent animals 393 00:15:52,866 --> 00:15:54,533 on the planet. They're smarter than dogs, 394 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,000 most three-year-olds, and Tom Sandoval. 395 00:15:57,066 --> 00:16:00,200 To use a phrase that the police never seem to appreciate, 396 00:16:00,266 --> 00:16:03,366 it's actually an honor to be compared to a pig. 397 00:16:03,433 --> 00:16:05,500 And if you are thinking, well, this seems like 398 00:16:05,566 --> 00:16:07,633 the kind of scam that's been around for decades, 399 00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:09,466 that is partially true. 400 00:16:09,533 --> 00:16:11,833 But the way this one works is fairly new. 401 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:13,633 And in the short time that it's been around, 402 00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:15,666 it's been massively successful. 403 00:16:15,733 --> 00:16:17,366 Just this month, it was at the center of 404 00:16:17,433 --> 00:16:19,333 a huge local news story in Kansas, 405 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,400 where it brought down a financial institution. 406 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:23,433 - I was surprised. 407 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:25,200 I was shocked. I was disappointed. 408 00:16:25,266 --> 00:16:28,200 - Kansas State Bank Commissioner David Herndon is 409 00:16:28,266 --> 00:16:30,933 talking about the massive cryptocurrency scam 410 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,665 at the Heartland Tri-State Bank in Elkhart. 411 00:16:33,733 --> 00:16:36,366 - In a cryptocurrency scheme 412 00:16:36,433 --> 00:16:40,900 that the FBI has now referred to as "pig butchering." 413 00:16:40,966 --> 00:16:43,633 - In this case, Herndon says the victim 414 00:16:43,700 --> 00:16:47,266 was Sean Haynes, the bank's own CEO. 415 00:16:47,333 --> 00:16:52,233 And he's now facing charges of embezzling nearly $50 million, 416 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:55,933 a loss that caused the bank to fail last August. 417 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,133 - That's true. 418 00:16:57,233 --> 00:17:00,233 According to prosecutors, a bank CEO got pig butchered, 419 00:17:00,300 --> 00:17:01,966 sent his scammer the bank's holdings, 420 00:17:02,033 --> 00:17:03,400 and the bank went under, 421 00:17:03,466 --> 00:17:04,766 which is alarming for several reasons. 422 00:17:04,833 --> 00:17:08,665 Among them, is that how banks work? 423 00:17:08,733 --> 00:17:10,665 Because it really feels like there should be at least 424 00:17:10,733 --> 00:17:12,833 one step between CEO gets tricked, 425 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:15,733 and, whoops, the bank's empty. 426 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,599 It's estimated that, as of 2022, 427 00:17:17,665 --> 00:17:21,733 this scam was taking people for more than $3 billion a year 428 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,566 in the US alone. 429 00:17:23,633 --> 00:17:26,000 And that's almost certainly a massive undercount, 430 00:17:26,066 --> 00:17:28,266 as it only includes people who reported their losses 431 00:17:28,366 --> 00:17:29,966 to the FBI. 432 00:17:30,066 --> 00:17:31,533 So given all of that, tonight, 433 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,333 let's talk about pig butchering, 434 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,333 why it's easier to fall for then you might think, 435 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,000 who's behind it, and what we can do 436 00:17:37,066 --> 00:17:39,400 to protect ourselves and our liked ones 437 00:17:39,466 --> 00:17:41,500 from getting scammed in the future. 438 00:17:41,566 --> 00:17:43,700 And let's start with where this began. 439 00:17:43,766 --> 00:17:45,133 And to do that, unfortunately, 440 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,933 we do need to go back to the place that no one wants to go, 441 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,566 the beginning of COVID. 442 00:17:49,633 --> 00:17:50,633 You remember COVID. 443 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:52,600 It's the Stephen Miller of diseases, 444 00:17:52,666 --> 00:17:54,700 in that we were all very worried about it 445 00:17:54,766 --> 00:17:56,466 a few years ago and have since moved on 446 00:17:56,533 --> 00:17:59,366 even though it's still extremely dangerous. 447 00:17:59,433 --> 00:18:01,433 But that is when pig butchering took off. 448 00:18:01,533 --> 00:18:03,233 Basically, at the start of COVID, 449 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:05,200 many of us were isolated and lonely, 450 00:18:05,266 --> 00:18:07,666 desperately looking for human contact online, 451 00:18:07,733 --> 00:18:09,700 which made us ripe targets. 452 00:18:09,766 --> 00:18:12,700 At the same time, organized crime groups in China 453 00:18:12,766 --> 00:18:15,933 running casinos in Southeast Asia were in crisis 454 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,866 as, thanks to the pandemic, 455 00:18:17,933 --> 00:18:19,066 gamblers weren't showing up. 456 00:18:19,133 --> 00:18:21,866 So they turned those casinos into bases 457 00:18:21,933 --> 00:18:23,900 for online scam operations. 458 00:18:23,966 --> 00:18:26,300 And from there, their workers identified people 459 00:18:26,366 --> 00:18:27,733 and preyed on their vulnerabilities. 460 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,900 And let me walk you through the basic steps here. 461 00:18:29,966 --> 00:18:33,900 The first is to make contact and lure your target in. 462 00:18:33,966 --> 00:18:36,066 Listen to this woman explain how her scammer, 463 00:18:36,166 --> 00:18:39,100 who called himself Jimmy, contacted her at a moment 464 00:18:39,166 --> 00:18:41,333 when she was dealing with cancer, the pandemic, 465 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,000 and the end of her marriage. 466 00:18:43,066 --> 00:18:47,633 - First message, it came as a very innocent message. 467 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:50,633 [soft pensive music] 468 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:53,166 ♪ ♪ 469 00:18:53,233 --> 00:18:54,966 I said, "wrong number." 470 00:18:55,033 --> 00:18:58,766 ♪ ♪ 471 00:18:58,833 --> 00:19:00,533 He came back, 472 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,833 "You look Chinese. Are you Chinese?" 473 00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:04,833 And I said, yes. 474 00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:07,633 He had moved here just before COVID. 475 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:11,400 And then COVID hit and so he's not able to go home. 476 00:19:11,466 --> 00:19:14,466 ♪ ♪ 477 00:19:14,533 --> 00:19:17,133 He was a-- 478 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,766 [sighs] 479 00:19:18,833 --> 00:19:23,866 A lonely man in need of comfort. 480 00:19:23,933 --> 00:19:26,366 Jimmy would message me every day. 481 00:19:26,433 --> 00:19:30,566 I do remember receiving these emojis with hearts. 482 00:19:30,633 --> 00:19:32,066 ♪ ♪ 483 00:19:32,133 --> 00:19:35,033 [heartbeat thumping] 484 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:38,733 It's quite flattering for a middle-aged woman 485 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,433 to meet a young man who finds you attractive. 486 00:19:42,533 --> 00:19:44,200 - Yeah, of course that's flattering. 487 00:19:44,266 --> 00:19:46,066 Because scammers are telling their targets 488 00:19:46,133 --> 00:19:48,300 what they want to hear most in that moment. 489 00:19:48,366 --> 00:19:52,000 We might not all fall for a GIF of a heart-pumping emoji. 490 00:19:52,066 --> 00:19:55,233 But if someone sent me nerd with glasses plus football 491 00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:58,800 plus learning plus statistics equals fire emoji, 492 00:19:58,866 --> 00:20:01,900 me personally, why, I would nut. 493 00:20:01,966 --> 00:20:05,533 And look, one way of making contact 494 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,466 is through those wrong number texts. 495 00:20:07,533 --> 00:20:08,733 But experts that we've talked to 496 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,466 estimate that they only make up about a quarter 497 00:20:11,533 --> 00:20:13,500 of the initial contacts for this scam. 498 00:20:13,566 --> 00:20:15,933 The rest can come through sites like LinkedIn, 499 00:20:16,033 --> 00:20:18,300 dating apps, Instagram, or Facebook, 500 00:20:18,366 --> 00:20:20,300 places specifically designed 501 00:20:20,366 --> 00:20:22,333 for you to meet people that you don't know, 502 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,166 either for love, a hookup, or, in the case of LinkedIn, 503 00:20:25,233 --> 00:20:29,866 to find out what kind of person is still on fucking LinkedIn. 504 00:20:29,933 --> 00:20:32,033 And scammers often research their target 505 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:33,066 using social media, 506 00:20:33,133 --> 00:20:35,266 where there is a lot of information about people. 507 00:20:35,333 --> 00:20:38,166 So they can pretend to have something in common. 508 00:20:38,233 --> 00:20:40,166 Take this woman who met someone on a dating app, 509 00:20:40,233 --> 00:20:41,800 only to discover that they shared 510 00:20:41,866 --> 00:20:43,533 an unexpected connection. 511 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,233 - He started asking questions about my family 512 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:48,400 and my past experiences. 513 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:51,266 - It was a connection that felt even stronger, she says, 514 00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:54,166 when he told her he came from the same town in China 515 00:20:54,233 --> 00:20:56,333 from where Hutchinson was adopted. 516 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,366 - We kind of bonded over that. 517 00:20:58,433 --> 00:20:59,900 - Yeah, I bet they did. And I've got to say, 518 00:20:59,966 --> 00:21:01,900 it says something about men on dating apps 519 00:21:01,966 --> 00:21:04,033 that they connected so well simply because 520 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:06,666 he did things like ask her questions about herself 521 00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:08,733 and listen to her responses. 522 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,000 I don't want to say the bar for men is low, 523 00:21:11,066 --> 00:21:12,333 but that story started with him 524 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,033 asking her questions about her life 525 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:17,200 and ends with her giving him all of her money. 526 00:21:17,266 --> 00:21:18,733 But regardless of how they start, 527 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,900 sooner or later, we move on to step two, 528 00:21:20,966 --> 00:21:22,833 turning the conversation toward money. 529 00:21:22,933 --> 00:21:25,566 But even then, there's a smart twist. 530 00:21:25,633 --> 00:21:28,466 Because you won't be suddenly asked to wire money 531 00:21:28,533 --> 00:21:31,366 to a Nigerian prince with an obviously fake email 532 00:21:31,433 --> 00:21:34,366 like, RealPr1nce, spelled with a "1" instead of an "I," 533 00:21:34,433 --> 00:21:36,800 at scum dot farts. 534 00:21:36,866 --> 00:21:40,100 With pig butchering, there's no direct ask for money at all. 535 00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:43,366 Instead, an opportunity gets presented to you. 536 00:21:43,433 --> 00:21:44,933 Just watch as this man explains the moment 537 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,000 when a guy that he met on a dating site 538 00:21:47,066 --> 00:21:48,666 started to reel him in. 539 00:21:48,733 --> 00:21:51,766 - He spent at least a month daily 540 00:21:51,833 --> 00:21:54,633 talking to me and cultivating my friendship. 541 00:21:54,733 --> 00:21:56,466 - Initially, the only talk about money 542 00:21:56,533 --> 00:22:00,133 was how much his new online friend had made in crypto. 543 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,666 After all, Scott thought he knew 544 00:22:01,733 --> 00:22:03,800 how to protect himself from scams. 545 00:22:03,866 --> 00:22:06,100 - "You can invest with me, and I'll make you all this money." 546 00:22:06,166 --> 00:22:08,066 And it's like, I'm not giving you money. 547 00:22:08,133 --> 00:22:10,300 That's not happening. 548 00:22:10,366 --> 00:22:13,766 So that's when he started, "no, you don't give it to me. 549 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:16,033 You establish your own account, and I'll guide you." 550 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:18,566 - Right. That's the clever hook here. 551 00:22:18,633 --> 00:22:20,466 You're not sending the scammer money. 552 00:22:20,533 --> 00:22:23,400 They're helping you set up and control your own account. 553 00:22:23,466 --> 00:22:25,200 And everything seems more legitimate 554 00:22:25,266 --> 00:22:27,400 when there's an app involved. You don't think so? 555 00:22:27,466 --> 00:22:29,266 When is the last time you took an Uber? 556 00:22:29,366 --> 00:22:32,266 Oh, get in a nondescript car with someone I've never met? 557 00:22:32,333 --> 00:22:33,500 I would never do that. 558 00:22:33,566 --> 00:22:36,366 But wait, what's this? I can do it from my phone? 559 00:22:36,433 --> 00:22:38,333 Well, in that case, here's my address. 560 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,833 Now you know where I live and that I won't be home 561 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:41,333 for the evening. My name's John. 562 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,100 I don't know your last name, but that doesn't matter 563 00:22:43,166 --> 00:22:45,166 because I'm also not committing your face to memory. 564 00:22:45,233 --> 00:22:48,400 Everything's safe. There's an app involved. 565 00:22:48,466 --> 00:22:50,933 And the fact the investment is often in crypto 566 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,033 can be persuasive for multiple reasons. 567 00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:56,066 First, who really knows how crypto works? 568 00:22:56,133 --> 00:22:58,433 I know your friend's weird husband claims that he does, 569 00:22:58,500 --> 00:22:59,466 but he sucks to talk to. 570 00:22:59,533 --> 00:23:03,000 So sadly, it must remain a mystery. 571 00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:05,600 But people have made money on crypto. 572 00:23:05,666 --> 00:23:07,333 So it's not unreasonable to think 573 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,933 you might meet one of them 574 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,266 and they could give you some tips, on top of which 575 00:23:11,333 --> 00:23:12,766 you may not be super familiar 576 00:23:12,833 --> 00:23:14,233 with how a trading platform operates 577 00:23:14,300 --> 00:23:15,966 or even what one looks like. 578 00:23:16,033 --> 00:23:17,266 And scammers have created 579 00:23:17,333 --> 00:23:19,700 incredibly plausible-looking platforms. 580 00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:21,166 We got this footage of one, 581 00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:23,033 which seems to have all the detail 582 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:25,033 and functionality of a real one. 583 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:28,233 And I'll be honest, I could be fooled by that. 584 00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:31,066 Also, some scammers use legitimate apps 585 00:23:31,133 --> 00:23:33,466 that allow anyone to build a trading exchange. 586 00:23:33,533 --> 00:23:35,866 The problem is there are tools that scammers can use 587 00:23:35,966 --> 00:23:38,900 to simulate fake results on those apps 588 00:23:38,966 --> 00:23:39,933 while taking your money. 589 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,400 Just watch this journalist explain how this gave 590 00:23:42,466 --> 00:23:44,533 one victim false confidence. 591 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,900 - In MetaTrader, it looks just like 592 00:23:46,966 --> 00:23:50,400 any kind of normal trading interface that one would use. 593 00:23:50,466 --> 00:23:52,000 It's available in the Google Play Store. 594 00:23:52,066 --> 00:23:53,666 It's available in the Apple App Store. 595 00:23:53,733 --> 00:23:56,400 It's an app that has a lot of good ratings. 596 00:23:56,466 --> 00:23:59,000 And that was one of the things that made Cy think that 597 00:23:59,066 --> 00:24:00,900 this whole operation was legitimate. 598 00:24:00,966 --> 00:24:04,500 He believed that his investment was making money. 599 00:24:04,566 --> 00:24:07,500 If you're trading on a legitimate trading interface, 600 00:24:07,566 --> 00:24:10,500 you see the profits and losses over time. 601 00:24:10,566 --> 00:24:12,300 And this is exactly what he saw. 602 00:24:12,366 --> 00:24:15,300 - Right. If your friend told you to download an app 603 00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:17,800 and you saw it in the App Store with good reviews, 604 00:24:17,866 --> 00:24:20,300 you might assume everything on it was legitimate, 605 00:24:20,366 --> 00:24:22,300 even before you saw MetaTrader's logo, 606 00:24:22,366 --> 00:24:23,966 which looks like three men in suits 607 00:24:24,033 --> 00:24:26,300 jerking each other off under a table-- 608 00:24:26,366 --> 00:24:28,433 an appropriate metaphor for cryptocurrency 609 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:31,200 if I have ever seen one. 610 00:24:31,266 --> 00:24:33,200 Some scammers even set up additional features 611 00:24:33,266 --> 00:24:35,166 like two-factor authentication 612 00:24:35,233 --> 00:24:36,966 or customer service lines. 613 00:24:37,033 --> 00:24:39,300 This woman tried her best to do due diligence 614 00:24:39,366 --> 00:24:40,700 on the site that she was sent 615 00:24:40,766 --> 00:24:43,466 and came away convinced that it was real. 616 00:24:43,566 --> 00:24:46,833 - There was a legal secretary involved in another state, 617 00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:49,066 vouching association with a law firm 618 00:24:49,133 --> 00:24:50,566 where it was sending money to. 619 00:24:50,633 --> 00:24:52,300 She's real. I could verify her. 620 00:24:52,366 --> 00:24:56,333 So it was very complex and well rehearsed. 621 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,666 - She spoke with a legal secretary and a law firm 622 00:24:59,733 --> 00:25:00,700 before sending money. 623 00:25:00,766 --> 00:25:02,266 And that is more vetting than I've done 624 00:25:02,333 --> 00:25:03,800 for my kids' daycare. 625 00:25:03,866 --> 00:25:05,966 Look, I love them and they're very precious to me, 626 00:25:06,033 --> 00:25:08,566 but they're also loud, sticky, and one of them is just getting 627 00:25:08,633 --> 00:25:09,866 stronger and stronger every day. 628 00:25:09,933 --> 00:25:12,133 So if you have a building with walls 629 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,933 and a phone number that I can call, I trust you. 630 00:25:15,033 --> 00:25:17,133 Take them for the afternoon. 631 00:25:17,233 --> 00:25:18,600 And at this point in the process, 632 00:25:18,666 --> 00:25:21,000 things might look pretty good for the people getting scammed. 633 00:25:21,066 --> 00:25:23,900 You've sent a bit of money to a legitimate looking site 634 00:25:23,966 --> 00:25:25,600 through an account that you control. 635 00:25:25,666 --> 00:25:28,366 And your new friends' trading tips seem to be working, 636 00:25:28,433 --> 00:25:30,333 so maybe you send a little bit more. 637 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,833 And pretty soon, you might have a fair amount of money 638 00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:34,933 tied up on this trading platform. 639 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,333 But when you eventually go to withdraw it, 640 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,900 that is where we hit the final step of this process. 641 00:25:39,966 --> 00:25:41,100 Remember that woman you saw earlier 642 00:25:41,166 --> 00:25:43,633 whose online friend claimed that he was from the same town 643 00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:44,900 where she was born? 644 00:25:44,966 --> 00:25:47,700 Well, she'd convinced her dad to invest as well. 645 00:25:47,766 --> 00:25:49,866 They'd seemingly made a bunch of money, 646 00:25:49,933 --> 00:25:51,400 and then this happened. 647 00:25:51,466 --> 00:25:54,433 - By December, their accounts showed a combined balance 648 00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:56,633 of $1.2 million. 649 00:25:56,700 --> 00:26:00,033 And Hutchinson decided it was time to cash out. 650 00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:01,700 That's when the site told her, 651 00:26:01,766 --> 00:26:03,400 before she could withdraw her money, 652 00:26:03,466 --> 00:26:08,666 she'd have to pay a hefty tax bill of roughly $380,000. 653 00:26:08,733 --> 00:26:11,100 - That's when I was like, something's not right. 654 00:26:11,166 --> 00:26:12,133 - It wasn't. 655 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,066 The cryptocurrency investments weren't real. 656 00:26:15,133 --> 00:26:16,800 All her and her father's funds 657 00:26:16,866 --> 00:26:19,033 had gone into the scammers' pockets. 658 00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:22,800 In all, $390,000 stolen. 659 00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:26,833 - I messed up my life. I messed up my dad's life. 660 00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:29,766 - She told me that it was all a scam. 661 00:26:29,833 --> 00:26:31,466 - Hutchinson's father, Melvin. 662 00:26:31,533 --> 00:26:36,033 - And all I could do was just hug her and tell her it's OK. 663 00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:38,433 [sobbing] It's OK. 664 00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:40,800 And it was hard. 665 00:26:40,866 --> 00:26:43,400 It was hard because we lost everything. 666 00:26:43,466 --> 00:26:45,566 - Yeah. Their money had already gone. 667 00:26:45,633 --> 00:26:47,666 And that tax bill was just an attempt 668 00:26:47,733 --> 00:26:49,700 to squeeze them one last time. 669 00:26:49,766 --> 00:26:51,666 And theirs isn't the only brutal story here. 670 00:26:51,733 --> 00:26:54,633 This woman lost $350,000. 671 00:26:54,733 --> 00:26:56,833 This guy lost $300,000. 672 00:26:56,933 --> 00:27:00,966 And that woman who fell for Jimmy sent him $2.5 million 673 00:27:01,033 --> 00:27:03,166 as she was dealing with terminal cancer. 674 00:27:03,233 --> 00:27:05,433 It is traumatic and it's humiliating. 675 00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:08,533 And it took courage for those people to come forward. 676 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,366 And that is partly why experts think the $3 billion figure 677 00:27:11,433 --> 00:27:12,900 that we have is way too low 678 00:27:12,966 --> 00:27:15,200 because most people who've been scammed like this 679 00:27:15,266 --> 00:27:18,166 simply don't report their losses out of embarrassment. 680 00:27:18,233 --> 00:27:20,366 And at this point, you're probably furious 681 00:27:20,433 --> 00:27:21,500 with the people on the other end 682 00:27:21,566 --> 00:27:23,500 of all of these messages and want to see them taken down 683 00:27:23,566 --> 00:27:25,933 or, at the very least, fucked with. 684 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,266 And that does happen a lot. 685 00:27:28,333 --> 00:27:31,066 People post screengrabs messing with scammers all the time, 686 00:27:31,133 --> 00:27:32,766 like in this exchange, where someone replies 687 00:27:32,833 --> 00:27:34,800 to wrong number text with, 688 00:27:34,866 --> 00:27:37,266 "My name is Inigo Montoya," and, 689 00:27:37,333 --> 00:27:39,166 "you don't by any chance have six fingers 690 00:27:39,233 --> 00:27:41,266 on your right hand, do you?" 691 00:27:41,333 --> 00:27:42,566 Or this one where a scammer writes, 692 00:27:42,633 --> 00:27:44,266 "I'm Sarah, nice to meet you," with a picture. 693 00:27:44,333 --> 00:27:47,400 And gets the reply, "Weewee weewoo boner alert." 694 00:27:47,466 --> 00:27:48,700 Look. 695 00:27:48,766 --> 00:27:50,100 Look, I'll be honest. 696 00:27:50,166 --> 00:27:52,500 That doesn't seem like the right sound to me. 697 00:27:52,566 --> 00:27:54,100 That's not what--I probably would have gone with, 698 00:27:54,166 --> 00:27:55,900 awooga, awooga, boner alert, 699 00:27:55,966 --> 00:27:57,533 but reasonable people can disagree. 700 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,633 All bodies are different. 701 00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:02,566 There's no one right sound for a boner alert. 702 00:28:02,666 --> 00:28:04,200 But here's the thing: 703 00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:06,566 as cathartic as that might be, 704 00:28:06,633 --> 00:28:08,933 the person on the other end of that phone 705 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,333 might not be the one you should be mad at. 706 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,400 Because remember when I said that this would be done 707 00:28:13,466 --> 00:28:16,500 in former casinos by organized crime syndicates? 708 00:28:16,566 --> 00:28:18,800 It turns out, they're not great bosses. 709 00:28:18,866 --> 00:28:21,866 - This compound is where an Indian man named Rakesh 710 00:28:21,933 --> 00:28:23,133 says he was forced to work 711 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,833 for more than 11 months without pay 712 00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:27,133 for a Chinese criminal gang. 713 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,033 Rakesh, who doesn't want to be identified, 714 00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:31,766 says he first flew to Thailand 715 00:28:31,833 --> 00:28:34,100 for what he thought was an IT job. 716 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,900 Instead he says he was tricked 717 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,466 into crossing the border to Myanmar, 718 00:28:38,533 --> 00:28:42,266 where a Chinese gangster told him to work or else. 719 00:28:42,333 --> 00:28:44,233 He threatened to kill you? 720 00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:46,666 - And the job? 721 00:28:46,733 --> 00:28:49,733 Spend 16 hours a day on social media 722 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,866 targeting Americans with a fake profile. 723 00:28:52,933 --> 00:28:54,400 - That is awful. 724 00:28:54,466 --> 00:28:57,933 No one should be forced to spend 16 hours a day 725 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,033 on social media. 726 00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:00,900 You should do it either because you love it 727 00:29:00,966 --> 00:29:02,400 or because you are 15 years old 728 00:29:02,466 --> 00:29:04,333 and the algorithm has addicted you to it-- 729 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,266 you know, completely normal reasons. 730 00:29:07,333 --> 00:29:09,366 A lot of these organizations are using people 731 00:29:09,466 --> 00:29:10,866 who've been human trafficked 732 00:29:10,933 --> 00:29:12,833 after being lured to the compounds 733 00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:13,933 under false pretenses. 734 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,700 They are actually the victims of a scam themselves. 735 00:29:16,766 --> 00:29:19,833 Basically, they might see job ads for skilled positions 736 00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:21,833 as translators or IT specialists 737 00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:22,866 in another country. 738 00:29:22,933 --> 00:29:25,200 They then go through a whole application process, 739 00:29:25,266 --> 00:29:28,333 with some going through up to four seemingly legitimate 740 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,300 online interviews, and fly to their new job, 741 00:29:31,366 --> 00:29:32,600 at which point they suddenly learn 742 00:29:32,666 --> 00:29:34,766 their new bosses have their documents 743 00:29:34,833 --> 00:29:36,566 and they now can't leave. 744 00:29:36,633 --> 00:29:39,266 Back in 2022, ProPublica estimated that 745 00:29:39,333 --> 00:29:41,366 tens of thousands of people 746 00:29:41,466 --> 00:29:42,733 have been tricked in this way. 747 00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:45,000 And a more recent UN report estimated that 748 00:29:45,066 --> 00:29:47,200 hundreds of thousands of people 749 00:29:47,266 --> 00:29:49,100 have been forcibly engaged in this scheme. 750 00:29:49,166 --> 00:29:53,100 They also say most victims are confined to the scam compound, 751 00:29:53,166 --> 00:29:54,700 and their screens are always monitored 752 00:29:54,766 --> 00:29:56,833 by the members of the organized crime group. 753 00:29:56,900 --> 00:29:59,633 And once they are in, they are provided fake profiles 754 00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:01,700 to try and hook people in with. 755 00:30:01,766 --> 00:30:04,833 Here is who Rakesh found himself being all day. 756 00:30:10,033 --> 00:30:12,466 - Posing as a Salt Lake City-based investor 757 00:30:12,533 --> 00:30:14,633 named Klara Semonov, 758 00:30:14,733 --> 00:30:17,666 Rakesh flirted online with potential targets. 759 00:30:21,533 --> 00:30:23,733 - Yeah, Rakesh was Klara Semonov 760 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,900 from Salt Lake City. 761 00:30:24,966 --> 00:30:26,600 So before we go any further, 762 00:30:26,666 --> 00:30:29,500 anyone who thinks that they are dating Klara, 763 00:30:29,566 --> 00:30:31,600 I'm afraid you are not. 764 00:30:31,666 --> 00:30:33,000 The relationship is over. 765 00:30:33,066 --> 00:30:35,300 It's not you, but it's also not her. 766 00:30:35,366 --> 00:30:36,766 It's Rakesh. 767 00:30:36,833 --> 00:30:38,200 But also, it isn't him. 768 00:30:38,266 --> 00:30:41,233 It's Rakesh's boss who won't let him leave. 769 00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:43,400 The whole operation is highly organized 770 00:30:43,466 --> 00:30:46,133 and set up to get around the usual ways 771 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,266 that you might detect a scam. 772 00:30:47,333 --> 00:30:48,800 For instance, some organizations 773 00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:51,300 generate their own photos for the profile 774 00:30:51,366 --> 00:30:54,066 so that they can't be reverse image searched. 775 00:30:54,133 --> 00:30:55,766 And employees are given manuals like these 776 00:30:55,833 --> 00:30:58,533 that guide them through every step of the process. 777 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,466 They're told to target people who look wealthy 778 00:31:00,533 --> 00:31:01,566 and successful. 779 00:31:01,633 --> 00:31:04,533 One advises, on the first day, talk about things like 780 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,100 your name, age, occupation and hobbies. 781 00:31:07,166 --> 00:31:09,633 Then the next day, talk about your emotional experience 782 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:12,333 with a message divided into two paragraphs. 783 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,566 And then on the third day, 784 00:31:13,633 --> 00:31:15,866 talk about your entrepreneurial experience. 785 00:31:15,933 --> 00:31:18,033 They're even given tips on how to break down 786 00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:19,466 people's defenses. 787 00:31:19,533 --> 00:31:22,466 - We reviewed several of these manuals, 788 00:31:22,566 --> 00:31:23,833 and they carefully explain 789 00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,533 how to build trust and exploit weaknesses 790 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,833 in their so-called client, such as-- 791 00:31:34,133 --> 00:31:37,266 - You know, the chilling thing is that's kind of true. 792 00:31:37,333 --> 00:31:38,266 If you're funny enough, 793 00:31:38,333 --> 00:31:39,866 you can make people forget a lot of things, 794 00:31:39,933 --> 00:31:42,266 whether it's common sense internet safeguards, 795 00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:44,200 lessons from previous relationships, 796 00:31:44,266 --> 00:31:45,766 or that they've been accidentally learning about 797 00:31:45,833 --> 00:31:47,633 financial fraud and human trafficking 798 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,233 for the last 20 minutes. 799 00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:51,500 We're having fun, aren't we? 800 00:31:51,566 --> 00:31:53,366 And if you're thinking, well, why don't authorities 801 00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:55,366 just shut these compounds down? 802 00:31:55,466 --> 00:31:57,266 Sometimes they're in on it. 803 00:31:57,333 --> 00:31:58,400 Here is one man who was trafficked 804 00:31:58,466 --> 00:31:59,866 to a scam center in Cambodia, 805 00:31:59,933 --> 00:32:03,033 explaining what happened when he did the obvious thing. 806 00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:05,200 - On his second day in captivity, 807 00:32:05,266 --> 00:32:07,600 Liu emailed the Chinese Embassy. 808 00:32:07,666 --> 00:32:10,133 He was advised to call the Sihanoukville police. 809 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,500 But the police never came. 810 00:32:13,666 --> 00:32:16,100 - The property management came instead. 811 00:32:16,166 --> 00:32:18,000 They knew that I'd called the police. 812 00:32:20,066 --> 00:32:22,133 - Liu says the managers then sold him to 813 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,866 another scamming company. 814 00:32:25,633 --> 00:32:28,100 - He said, because I called the police, 815 00:32:28,166 --> 00:32:29,966 they had to take care of the police 816 00:32:30,033 --> 00:32:31,700 with at least $4,000 817 00:32:31,766 --> 00:32:33,800 and I had to pay for that, too. 818 00:32:33,866 --> 00:32:36,266 - Yeah, the authorities weren't going to help him, 819 00:32:36,333 --> 00:32:38,200 which actually makes sense when you learn 820 00:32:38,266 --> 00:32:39,500 that according to UN estimates, 821 00:32:39,566 --> 00:32:41,866 pig butchering in Cambodia brings in an amount 822 00:32:41,933 --> 00:32:45,033 equivalent to half the country's GDP, 823 00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:47,500 which is worrisome because, as everyone knows, 824 00:32:47,566 --> 00:32:49,633 when something generates that much money, 825 00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:50,933 you don't shut it down. 826 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,300 You spin it off and pray the magic works a second time. 827 00:32:54,366 --> 00:32:56,266 Come on. 828 00:32:56,333 --> 00:32:58,366 And conditions in these compounds can be brutal. 829 00:32:58,433 --> 00:32:59,566 That man you saw earlier, Rakesh, 830 00:32:59,633 --> 00:33:01,600 took photos of abuse like this one, 831 00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:03,333 of a co-worker who'd been beaten. 832 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,266 And Liu, who managed to get out, now works to free others. 833 00:33:06,333 --> 00:33:09,333 And the stories of what he's seen are--fair warning-- 834 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,666 hard to watch. 835 00:33:12,366 --> 00:33:15,433 - I saw a man get beaten up very badly. 836 00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,166 He had injuries all over his body. 837 00:33:18,233 --> 00:33:20,100 - Liu contends it was this man 838 00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:23,800 who was reportedly found hanging just hours later. 839 00:33:23,866 --> 00:33:24,900 - I'm certain it was him. 840 00:33:24,966 --> 00:33:26,666 - His phone is full of messages 841 00:33:26,733 --> 00:33:28,233 from Chinese citizens, 842 00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:30,700 desperate to be freed from scam companies. 843 00:33:30,766 --> 00:33:33,133 There's videos of abuse. 844 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,600 Liu says he receives them directly from victims 845 00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:37,466 inside the scam industry 846 00:33:37,533 --> 00:33:40,400 or finds them posted in social media group chats. 847 00:33:40,466 --> 00:33:42,466 And he's got handcuffs. 848 00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:44,200 They're shocking. 849 00:33:44,266 --> 00:33:46,966 - That is horrifying. And when you know all of this, 850 00:33:47,033 --> 00:33:50,633 it kind of starts to change who exactly you are mad at here 851 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:52,033 because, suddenly, the individuals on 852 00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:53,900 the other end of the phone 853 00:33:53,966 --> 00:33:56,500 don't seem quite so fun to send a message of 854 00:33:56,566 --> 00:33:59,100 "weewoo weewoo boner alert" to. 855 00:33:59,166 --> 00:34:01,066 Not that that isn't an excellent text. 856 00:34:01,133 --> 00:34:03,433 Who doesn't love a boner alert? 857 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,200 But there's a time and a place, and this might not be it. 858 00:34:06,266 --> 00:34:08,733 Also, from now on, whenever you get a sexy text 859 00:34:08,833 --> 00:34:11,500 from a new stranger, good luck not thinking, 860 00:34:11,565 --> 00:34:12,966 is this a man who was just beaten 861 00:34:13,033 --> 00:34:14,466 in a work camp in Myanmar? 862 00:34:14,533 --> 00:34:17,366 And that, if anything, is the John Oliver effect. 863 00:34:17,433 --> 00:34:19,766 You are welcome. 864 00:34:19,833 --> 00:34:23,500 And look, I can't say that every scammer 865 00:34:23,565 --> 00:34:25,733 is someone who was kidnapped, tortured, and forced to do it. 866 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,065 But even if not everyone who's doing this 867 00:34:28,132 --> 00:34:29,866 is trapped or coerced, 868 00:34:29,933 --> 00:34:31,733 the very fact that many are 869 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,000 is still a huge problem. 870 00:34:33,065 --> 00:34:34,533 So what can we do here? 871 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,199 Well, when it comes to those imprisoned in these compounds, 872 00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:39,733 that's going to take collaboration between 873 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,866 international law enforcement. 874 00:34:40,933 --> 00:34:43,266 So unless you are the head of Interpol, 875 00:34:43,333 --> 00:34:45,033 which I'm guessing you are not, 876 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:47,266 there's not much you personally can do. 877 00:34:47,333 --> 00:34:50,166 In this country, I'd argue that platforms like these 878 00:34:50,233 --> 00:34:52,565 should be doing way more to prevent the creation 879 00:34:52,632 --> 00:34:54,233 of fake accounts to target people 880 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,166 because it's happening on their watch. 881 00:34:56,233 --> 00:34:58,933 But the truth is, perhaps the most effective way 882 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,400 to stop this from happening 883 00:35:00,466 --> 00:35:02,133 is to make it less lucrative 884 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,533 by having fewer people fall for it. 885 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,433 And that is where awareness of this scam is key. 886 00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:11,000 This is one of those rare cases where raising awareness 887 00:35:11,066 --> 00:35:13,466 is in itself genuinely useful. 888 00:35:13,533 --> 00:35:15,100 Because hopefully you've seen tonight, 889 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,766 this could happen to someone you know. 890 00:35:16,866 --> 00:35:18,633 This hasn't just sucked in old people 891 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,400 or those who aren't tech savvy. 892 00:35:20,466 --> 00:35:23,333 It managed to reel in a bank CEO. 893 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,800 Everyone has an image of the type of person 894 00:35:25,866 --> 00:35:27,933 who is susceptible to getting scammed in their heads. 895 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,766 But unless that image is a mirror, you might be wrong. 896 00:35:31,833 --> 00:35:34,333 So as a general rule, when a stranger on a dating app 897 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,633 says either "I love you" or "crypto" 898 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:39,633 within a month of talking to you, worry. 899 00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:41,933 Honestly, even if they don't turn out to be scammers, 900 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,166 those are pretty good red flags 901 00:35:43,233 --> 00:35:46,100 to be looking for, personality-wise. 902 00:35:46,166 --> 00:35:48,400 And it's worth telling your friends and family 903 00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:49,633 about pig butchering too. 904 00:35:49,733 --> 00:35:51,600 It doesn't have to be a big lecture or anything. 905 00:35:51,666 --> 00:35:53,933 You can just send them a link to this show. 906 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,933 And if they say, "I hate that guy," 907 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,100 say, "yeah, me too. He's the worst. 908 00:35:58,166 --> 00:35:59,400 Just skip past the jokes." 909 00:35:59,466 --> 00:36:00,966 And if they say, "I'll watch it, 910 00:36:01,033 --> 00:36:02,900 but he looks like a LEGO accountant," 911 00:36:02,966 --> 00:36:05,500 "wait, no, he looks like ChatGPTs answer to, 912 00:36:05,566 --> 00:36:06,933 'show me a virgin,'" 913 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,100 "wait, no, he looks like Harry Potter if he just 914 00:36:09,166 --> 00:36:12,600 stayed under the stairs," just leave them on read. 915 00:36:12,666 --> 00:36:15,300 You don't have to completely sell me out. 916 00:36:15,366 --> 00:36:19,133 Maybe drop a thumbs up emoji, but please, leave it at that. 917 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,566 And look, if you know someone who's been scammed like this, 918 00:36:22,633 --> 00:36:24,000 try to be kind. 919 00:36:24,066 --> 00:36:26,066 It is human to want companionship. 920 00:36:26,133 --> 00:36:27,766 And it's actually a nice quality 921 00:36:27,833 --> 00:36:29,266 to be trusting of people. 922 00:36:29,333 --> 00:36:30,700 And it sucks that the internet, 923 00:36:30,766 --> 00:36:33,033 which should be a way to alleviate loneliness, 924 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,766 can be turned into a tool to exploit it. 925 00:36:34,833 --> 00:36:38,000 But maybe, if we all look out for one another, 926 00:36:38,066 --> 00:36:40,266 we can ensure that the worst mistake anyone ever makes 927 00:36:40,333 --> 00:36:42,233 on the internet is inadvertently buying 928 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:45,000 an excellent Christmas tree for gay mice. 929 00:36:45,066 --> 00:36:47,733 Because honestly, it's really not that bad a purchase. 930 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,433 Believe me, 931 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,933 I know what I'm talking about. 932 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,066 Now this. 933 00:36:54,433 --> 00:36:57,133 - And now, local news loses it 934 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,266 over Major League Baseball's new pants. 935 00:37:00,333 --> 00:37:01,500 - Major League Baseball introduced 936 00:37:01,566 --> 00:37:03,366 new uniforms this year, but there's a problem. 937 00:37:03,433 --> 00:37:05,233 The pants are made of thinner fabric, 938 00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:07,933 making them almost see through, Chris. 939 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,233 - Wait, what? - Mm-hm. 940 00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:11,133 Now photos all over-- - You've got my attention. 941 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,400 I'm listening. - [chuckles] 942 00:37:12,466 --> 00:37:14,666 Luckily, the tucked-in shirts keeping things covered. 943 00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:16,400 Look at him and his hands. [gasps] 944 00:37:16,466 --> 00:37:17,766 - They're definitely see-through, right? 945 00:37:17,833 --> 00:37:19,866 You could see the little tags. - Well, we saw it. 946 00:37:19,933 --> 00:37:21,366 That's for sure. - What's "it"? 947 00:37:21,433 --> 00:37:22,800 Oh-- - The-- 948 00:37:22,866 --> 00:37:25,333 - [laughs] Steve! Wow. 949 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,900 - We--we saw-- - We can go to weather now. 950 00:37:27,966 --> 00:37:30,500 - Does he look happy wearing them? No. 951 00:37:30,566 --> 00:37:32,333 He looks happy wearing them. 952 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,533 - Do you see the problem, though? 953 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,666 - I don't think girls are saying 954 00:37:34,733 --> 00:37:36,000 there's a problem there. - [laughs] 955 00:37:36,066 --> 00:37:37,100 - The players, I think, probably have 956 00:37:37,166 --> 00:37:38,466 an issue with it. - Oh. 957 00:37:38,533 --> 00:37:40,933 - Now if I've got patterns on my boxer briefs, 958 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,400 everyone's going to see that? - I don't know. 959 00:37:42,466 --> 00:37:44,133 I'm suddenly very interested in baseball. 960 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,533 - Bianca is on her elbows on the desk here. 961 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,833 - Can we zoom in to these photos 962 00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:48,966 a little bit more? - Stop it! 963 00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:50,766 - I can't tell 'cause I have bad eyes. 964 00:37:50,833 --> 00:37:52,466 - You can see the shirt tucked in. 965 00:37:52,533 --> 00:37:53,733 - [laughs] OK. 966 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,033 - Maybe these uniforms will get more women 967 00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:59,433 that aren't watching baseball already to watch baseball. 968 00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:01,866 - You've got Derica's interest. - That's what I said. 969 00:38:01,933 --> 00:38:04,133 - She's googling over here. I'm like-- 970 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,200 - [laughs] Right? 971 00:38:05,266 --> 00:38:06,433 - It's a good recruiting device. 972 00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:07,633 - Yes, it is. 973 00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:09,000 - I see nothing wrong with the pants. 974 00:38:09,066 --> 00:38:10,266 - I think they're fine. 975 00:38:10,333 --> 00:38:12,100 - I was inspecting. Didn't see a problem. 976 00:38:12,166 --> 00:38:13,100 - Uh-huh. 977 00:38:13,166 --> 00:38:15,000 - All right, if snakes make you-- 978 00:38:15,066 --> 00:38:19,100 [laughter] 979 00:38:19,166 --> 00:38:20,600 - Who put this order of these stories? 980 00:38:20,666 --> 00:38:21,666 - Oh, boy. 981 00:38:21,733 --> 00:38:24,533 ♪ ♪ 982 00:38:25,033 --> 00:38:26,233 - That's our show. Thanks so much for watching. 983 00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:27,800 We'll see you next week. Good night! 984 00:38:27,866 --> 00:38:29,800 [cheers and applause] 985 00:38:29,866 --> 00:38:32,800 [uplifting music] 986 00:38:32,866 --> 00:38:39,933 ♪ ♪ 987 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:42,933 I would nut! 988 00:38:43,433 --> 00:38:44,266 [bright tone] 77962

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