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This programme
contains strong language
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As you can all
quite well imagine,
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the letters that get
themselves printed
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are only the tip of an iceberg.
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The iceberg in this case
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seems to be one of a
particularly threatening nature.
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In fact, it is an iceberg that
is drifting uncomfortably close
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to the dazzlingly lit, wonderfully appointed
Titanic that is big-time rock pop -
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tax exile, jet-set
show business.
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Letter after letter
repeats the same thing.
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You all seem to have had it
with The Who and Liz Taylor,
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Rod Stewart and the Queen,
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Jagger and Princess Margaret,
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paying three quid
to be bent, mutilated,
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crushed, or seated
behind a pillar,
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all in the name of modern,
'70s-style super rock.
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The aforementioned
iceberg cometh.
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And that iceberg,
dear readers, is you.
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Everyone that was involved
in punk was a child in the '60s.
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So we grew up with rock music
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at the centre of the universe,
and as a medium for social change.
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# It's all right now... #
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And what we got,
when it was our turn,
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was the feeling that we
had kind of missed the party.
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We had grown up too
late to be a part of that.
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The whole country had this
feeling that there's no innovation,
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there's nothing happening,
definitely not for us.
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When you looked at all the
great music that had happened,
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you really felt, "Well,
what are we going to do?"
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You really didn't have a future.
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No matter how well you
achieved academically,
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it's like, "Why bother?
Know your place."
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We didn't want any bullshit,
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we didn't want to have
an older generation's views
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put upon our shoulders.
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We didn't want to
have to toe the line.
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You've created
somebody who has nothing.
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And, out of nothing, I'm going to
build a whole new suit of clothes.
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Out of nothing, I'm
going to look great.
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Out of nothing, I'm going
to terrify your children.
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In London, it felt as
if a great ashen cloud
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had fallen over everything.
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The great idealistic
issues of the hippie era,
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gender politics, issues of race,
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issues of authority,
were not listened to.
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In fact, I had gone to
the Home Office and said,
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"We have been arguing with
you, and if you don't listen to me,
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"my generation, the next generation
is going to come at you with knives."
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This is the evolutionary story
of the birth of British punk...
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..the underground London scene
that came before the fabled ground zero
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of the Sex Pistols'
Anarchy In The UK.
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Over time, punk has been
mythologized and reduced
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to a barrage of swearing,
spitting and safety pins.
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The foundations of
punk were actually forged
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by a gateway generation
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sandwiched between the
'60s hippies and the '70s punks.
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They were the big
brothers of punk,
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already themselves on a mission
to take rock back from the jet set.
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This generation paved the way
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but would ultimately be
wiped out by punk's new dawn.
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And the very first stepping
stone on the road to punk
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was laid by a group of enterprising
young American long-hairs
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at the beginning of the '70s.
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# Well, I'm riding
on an airplane... #
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One day, in May 1971,
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a Californian honky-tonk
trio, Eggs Over Easy,
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knocked on the door of
a north London boozer,
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looking for a place to play.
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I don't know what they
were doing in England,
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but they went to see the
landlord. There was three of them.
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And they said,
"Could we play here?"
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And the guy said, "We kind of
play jazz. What do you play?"
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And they said, "Kind of R&B and
country and rock and pop. Everything."
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He said, "Give us a
lunchtime, and see how it goes."
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And that's what they did.
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And it took off.
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# We're going to
have a little party
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# It's going to last
for a week or two. #
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They were authentic Americans,
and we were really excited by that.
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Draft dodgers, I think.
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I'm not certain about that,
maybe that was just a myth.
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And they had a
massive repertoire.
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They were like a living jukebox.
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It wasn't your regular
rock crowd. I can remember
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a Sikh bus conductor with
his uniform on, dancing,
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dancing with his wife or with
someone else's wife, I don't know.
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All kinds of people. It
was really, really shaking.
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The simple idea of a rock
'n' roll band playing in a pub
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was something of a eureka moment
for Nick Lowe's band Brinsley Schwarz
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and their new manager, ex-Jimi
Hendrix roadie, Dave Robinson.
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Against the early '70s
backdrop of super rock and prog,
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rootsy country rock
bands like the Brinsleys
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had trouble finding
places to play.
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When I saw Eggs
Over Easy, it was like,
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"I've got the model.
Come down and see -
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"this is what I'm telling
you you should be doing."
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They were the kind of
musicians we were aspiring to be.
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So we started appropriating
quite a lot of their act, you know.
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And when they went
back to America,
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we're appropriated
their gig as well.
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# Falling in love again
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# Falling in love again... #
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Having seen the light,
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the Brinsleys settled in to
a residency at The Tally Ho
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and their enterprising manager set out
to make the most of his new opportunity.
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Finding kindred spirits,
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and finding kindred bar
managers, became what I got up to.
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MUSIC: "All Right Now" by Free
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I'd been working for David
Bowie in the very early '70s.
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After the Ziggy
Stardust tours were over,
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there was no job for me
then with David Bowie.
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So round about the same time,
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Dave Robinson and myself spent
our evenings looking for venues.
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We literally used to
drive around London
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in my old Morris 1000 traveller.
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Every time we passed a
big pub, we'd stop and go in
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and ask the landlord if he had a
big room he wanted to rent out.
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It was a bit of a
crusade, really.
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# Now, don't you
wait Don't hesitate
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# Let's move before They
raise the parking rate. #
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PIANO PUB MUSIC
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These pubs didn't always offer
a warm welcome to new faces.
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Pubs weren't very
appealing to young people.
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The vast majority of them
were run by Irish men,
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with an aggressive attitude!
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Almost none of
them served meals.
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There wasn't a gastro... The word
"gastropub" hadn't been invented then.
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It was still the older guy
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escaping from his wife,
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the place they would
brag and booze,
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and talk about football.
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Nothing had happened in
pubs for about 30 years, really.
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ROCK 'N' ROLL MUSIC
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All of a sudden, London's
pubs were happening.
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Brinsley Schwarz were joined on
the scene by groups like Ducks Deluxe
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and Bees Make Honey,
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and the capital's landlords warmed
to what they now called pub rock,
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and the thirsty
crowds it attracted.
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# Caledonia, Caledonia... #
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A circuit gradually evolved.
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The Tally Ho was the first one,
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because Eggs Over
Easy were playing there.
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The Hope & Anchor became a
bigger venue, round about 1972.
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Also another pub in
Hammersmith called The Red Cow.
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Then this place, The
Nashville, came along later.
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It became the main means by which
new acts were exposed to the public.
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The great thing about the
London pub rock scene was
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you didn't need a
huge PA system.
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You didn't need a tour bus, and
you didn't really need a road crew.
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Four or five guys,
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put it in the car, go down The
Hope & Anchor or The Kensington,
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set up on beer
crates, virtually,
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and play for an hour or two.
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There were no bells and
whistles at a pub rock show,
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and this chimed with the bands'
preferred style of stripped down music.
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Not for them the
pomp and peacocking
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of the prevailing
forms of rock in 1972.
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It was a very strange
time, that '71, '72 period.
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# And I-I-I-I, I love you. #
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In the pop world, you had glam.
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T Rex and Slade, and those guys.
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I went to see Ziggy Stardust
and the Spiders from Mars. Please!
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# Oh, honey, watch that man.
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# Well, he talks like a jerk
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# But he's only taking
care of the room. #
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COMMENTATOR: 'It is said Bowie will
soon be the world's number one beat singer.
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'He'd be the first superstar of pop
to wear shorty dresses on stage.'
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It was just too cosmetic for me.
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I couldn't swallow that.
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# Watch that man. #
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You also had this
appalling... HE LAUGHS
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..this appalling thing
called prog rock.
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Yes, King Crimson,
Family, Genesis.
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Jethro Tull, Super Tramp.
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You know, prog rock. I hated it.
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SYNTHESISER SOLO
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Too much light shows,
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too much people playing
keyboards like this,
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and all of that business.
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Not just the music
that people played,
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but how audiences reacted,
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which was to sit on the
floor, with their eyes shut
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listening to this wondrously
complicated music.
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It had gone a long, long
way from rock 'n' roll.
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Humdrum daily life for
youngsters in the early '70s,
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played out to an extended
soundtrack of earnest virtuosity
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and mutton chop pop,
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was in dire need
of something new.
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Pub rock's answer to this
was to dig out something old.
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The pub rock bands started
looking back to Chuck Berry,
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early blues artists, early
soul and R&B artists.
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# I'm going coast to coast
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# I'm going coast to coast. #
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Classic rock and R&B from the
'50s and early '60s played fast,
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and, washed down with
generous amounts of ale,
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was pub rock's
response to boring Britain.
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Unbeknownst to them, their
retro leanings set British rock
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on a course that
would eventually lead
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to the short sharp
shock of punk.
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ROCK GUITAR INTERLUDE
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The Ducks were just crazy.
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We just had so much energy.
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We just piled it in there.
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We played at 150 miles an hour.
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Sean Tyla had a very
aggressive, kind of rough attitude,
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which I rather liked.
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He was fabulously abusive
to audiences, for one thing!
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HE LAUGHS
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And, you know, that was
a bit of a mixed blessing.
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# I'm going coast to coast. #
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I often used to get people
come up to me at the end of a gig,
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and say, "You really
pissed me off tonight."
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I'd say, "What have I done now?"
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He said, "You didn't
tell me to fuck off!"
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So I'm not coming to your gigs
if you don't tell me to fuck off.
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I said, "All right,
OK. Fuck off!"
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HE LAUGHS
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Ducks Deluxe were like a
punk rock group in the making.
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But a few excess
kilos and facial hair
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was all that stood between Ducks
Deluxe and punk rock legend, really.
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By 1973, pub rock gigs had gained
a reputation as a good night out
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and were proving popular
with legions of Londoners.
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ROCK GUITAR
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The crowds were coming. These
pubs now suddenly were full.
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The landlords were banging
me on the back, saying,
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"Dave, this is happening,
what are you drinking?"
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We understood it was
fundamentally about entertainment.
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Paul, our singer, very quickly
adopted this persona of, like,
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an Arthur Daley-type character.
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You know, with a
moustache and the cigarette
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and the sort of sleazy patter.
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# You know, I went to
a party the other night
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# This certain chick
was out of sight
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# Now, we got talking... #
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One of the things that pub rock
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is the fact that everybody
is in the front row.
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Because it's so small,
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you are so close to the band.
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You are all a part of it.
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And the band gets
that feeling as well.
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# So I slapped a little
cash down on the desk... #
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It broke down the barriers
between the audience and the artist.
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If you went to the Hammersmith
Odeon to see Mott The Hoople,
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chances of bumping into
Ian Hunter - extremely remote.
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Come down The Hope & Anchor,
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chances of bumping into Ian
Dury - ten to one. You know?
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# Pocket money,
ooh, pocket money
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# But you know
it's true, baby. #
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If Ian Dury was at the
bar, he'd be hard to miss,
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especially with his band
Kilburn & The High Roads in tow.
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The Kilburns were an
entirely different phenomena.
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It was like seeing a kind
of demented Gene Vincent,
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you know, with a deformed
drummer and a dwarf bass player,
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and it was like the
circus had come to town.
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# Woke up this morning
in a state of shock... #
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Unlike the punks
who would follow,
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or the glam acts their
younger sisters liked,
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most pub rockers didn't
believe in having a look.
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Only the Kilburns, who met
at Canterbury College of Art,
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had their own unique aesthetic.
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# And the cocktail rock
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# They did the mumble rumble
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# And the cocktail rock... #
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It was a rather strange band.
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It wasn't quite a rock 'n' roll
band, that's what we thought.
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It was like this...
We were Kilburns.
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# I climbed out of
bed and I call a doc
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# Don't need you, oh!
Cocktail rock, whoo! #
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Kilburn & The High Roads were
just so far ahead of everybody else
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in look and in...punk feel.
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Ian Dury was wearing
a razor blade in his ear
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years before the punk movement.
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# And the cocktail rock. #
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All right, Keith, on the
guitar, you want to play a little?
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More important than his
earrings, Ian Dury wrote songs
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depicting real life
on London's streets
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at a time when most pub rockers sang songs
about life south of the Mason-Dixon line.
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# Mumble, mumble rumble
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# And the cocktail rock. #
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The Mumble Rumble.
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He liked people like Max
Wall, Norman Wisdom.
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He was very much into the
stagecraft of that kind of thing.
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And he was almost like a Dickensian
figure, as well. Very English.
284
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And I think people loved
that we were talking about
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Kilburn High Road
instead of Memphis.
286
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The Kilburns used to come
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to Hornsey College
Of Art and do gigs.
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Songs like Rough Kids by
them - that was a great song.
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I think Rough Kids was one of
the first punking sounding songs.
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You know, very London.
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The Kilburns gave a glimmer
of hope to the odd teenager
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craving tunes that
reflected their own lives.
293
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But the pub rockers themselves
didn't have youth on their side.
294
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You'd have, like, a lead
singer that looked really good.
295
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You thought, he's got the slightly
Bowie haircut, and a T-shirt,
296
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but they were wearing flares, and
the guitarist would have long hair.
297
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It was really, you know, beery
blokes playing Chuck Berry tunes.
298
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Even the Whistle Test
could see that pub rock
299
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wasn't quite going
to save rock 'n' roll.
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Richard, how much impact
do you think the pub rock circuit
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is having or is going to have
now on the musical situation?
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If you go round and look
at a lot of pub rock bands,
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or a lot of bands
playing in pubs,
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you find that most
of them are over 25.
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It's really recreating the music
of the '50s and the early '60s,
306
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and out of that kind of thing a
revolution is not going to come.
307
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The next big influence on rock is going to come
from 18-year-olds, 19-year-olds, 20-year-olds.
308
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Pub rock established a live
music scene and uncovered
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the rock 'n' roll roots that would
form the sonic template for punk.
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This appetite for raiding the
past in search of fresh sounds
311
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was being passed down to even
younger kids by two record traders,
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Ted Carroll and Roger Armstrong.
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We're in Golborne Road,
we're outside number 93,
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which in 1971 was a flea market.
315
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I had a record stall in the back, and
that's where I started my Rock On empire.
316
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This place was the first place
you could buy rock 'n' roll records
317
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from the '50s, '60s,
and even the '70s,
318
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as well as rhythm
& blues and soul,
319
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so it used to attract a lot
of journalists, musicians.
320
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Joe Strummer bought a copy
of Brand New Cadillac in here
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and then recorded
it with The Clash.
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So there was all that kind of stuff
happening all the time, you know?
323
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Well, Ted Carroll
and Roger Armstrong,
324
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we liked them, because
they were introducing us
325
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to music that I
hadn't heard before,
326
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early blues and jazz
and all that kind of stuff.
327
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They were big instigators of
having the product to turn people on.
328
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Just down the road in Chelsea,
rag trade maverick Malcolm McLaren
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had also picked up on this
revival of rock's teenage past.
330
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Malcolm, he was selling
'50s rock 'n' roll stuff
331
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and I used to sell
him a lot of records.
332
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When everybody was walking
around dressed in BacoFoil,
333
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like Gary Glitter
or Anthony Price,
334
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he had a Teddy Boy shop.
335
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If you had to begin in the '70s,
336
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you had to begin your life with,
337
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well, what was the culture
that really moved you?
338
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So we would dig up the
ruins of what was the 1950s.
339
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We were going to rescue these
ruins, we were going to polish them,
340
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dust them down, pull them up.
341
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# Well, it's one for the money
342
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# Two for the show... #
343
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McLaren's shop kitted out a
growing number of teenagers
344
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who, fed up with the present,
were looking for the future
345
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in the depths of their
parents' vinyl collection,
346
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or the back of their
wardrobe, for that matter.
347
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American Graffiti was a very influential
thing for a much younger age group.
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ARCHIVE: American Graffiti.
Baby, what's that? It's a movie!
349
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Can you dig it? Can you
dig it? Go back in time!
350
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It's one of those great old movies
about romance, racing and rock 'n' roll!
351
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Those teenage kids, they
used to call it graffiti music.
352
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Graffiti music, they called it.
353
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We were far enough away
from the '50s, in a sense,
354
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for it not to be just
about nostalgia, in a way.
355
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They were just listening
to it, and it was great music,
356
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,040
and it was sort of simple
and straightforward,
357
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and it was the antithesis of the
grandiose stadium rock kind of things.
358
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Though, funnily enough, it was
a stadium gig that, in a sense,
359
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,920
also helped trigger it, which was
the Wembley Rock 'N' Roll Show.
360
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# One, two, three
o'clock, four o'clock rock
361
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# five, six, seven
o'clock, eight o'clock rock
362
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,640
# nine, ten, 11
o'clock, 12 o'clock rock,
363
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,960
# We're going to rock
around the clock tonight... #
364
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,120
It was Bo Diddley,
Chuck, Jerry Lee...
365
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Bill Haley. Bill Haley.
Little Richard. Little Richard.
366
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And guess who was also there,
with a job lot of retro T-shirts to sell?
367
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ARCHIVE: Bill Haley large?
368
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,600
It's Malcolm McLaren with a pop-up
version of his Kings Road store.
369
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Why is rock coming back?
What? Why is rock coming back?
370
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,720
Well, it never really went
away, did it? No, definitely not.
371
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,600
Large Jerry Lee Lewis.
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Revisiting the teen tribes
373
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and three-minute hits of the '50s
was a signpost on the road to punk.
374
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But, 40 miles
south, down the A13,
375
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those pioneering days of rock 'n'
roll had definitely never gone away.
376
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In Southend, of course,
we had the famous seafront
377
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and the Kursaal Amusement Park,
378
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,840
and the longest
pier in the world,
379
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and so there was a bit of
a fairground atmosphere.
380
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All the amusement arcades and
the piers and so forth had jukeboxes,
381
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,440
and it seemed like rock 'n' roll
records were for ever spinning.
382
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MUSIC: "Boogie Chillen"
by John Lee Hooker
383
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Canvey was a bit of a
backwater, and I'd got into this
384
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,240
rhythm & blues music and
that, and naturally I'm thinking,
385
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,320
"Oh, man, I wish I lived
in the Mississippi Delta."
386
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,760
And of course - a
jolly obvious thing -
387
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,320
you do live in
a delta, actually,
388
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,960
and you do live where there
are people living in shacks.
389
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,760
# Well, my momma didn't allow me
390
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,280
# To stay out
all night long... #
391
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,800
So you could indulge these kind
of fantasies, and the whole thing
392
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,600
lit up by the lights and
fires of the oil refinery.
393
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,960
# I didn't care what
she didn't allow
394
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,720
# I would boogie-woogie
anyhow... #
395
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,640
Yes! Got the blues.
396
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,440
Wilko was joined in his
fantasy by three other local lads
397
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in a group they
called Dr Feelgood.
398
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,920
# If there's
something that I like
399
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# It's the way that woman walks
400
00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:37,600
# And if there's
something I like better
401
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,280
# It's the way she baby talks
402
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,720
# She does it right
403
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,200
# She does it right... #
404
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:49,560
Actually, what we were doing was
slightly old-fashioned or something.
405
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,880
The local rival bands used
to look down on us a little bit,
406
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,320
you know, because we
weren't wearing frocks
407
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,160
and singing about going to Mars.
408
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,200
# And when she
gets back to her seat
409
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,400
# Mmm, all the
people cry for more #
410
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,480
# She does it right... #
411
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,480
Rock 'n' roll's not about The
Hobbit and things like that,
412
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,760
that's for girls, you know.
413
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,480
Children's music.
414
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This is for people who
want to have a good time.
415
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Having shown the pubs and clubs
of the Thames delta a good time,
416
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,120
before long, the
Feelgoods set their sights
417
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:27,000
on the London pub rock scene.
418
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,360
We went up to town to The
Torrington to see a couple of bands.
419
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I was there with my
brother, and we got in there,
420
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,680
and this band were... I
remember saying to my bruv,
421
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,960
"If this is the top
band in London...
422
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,800
"..we've got it made."
423
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,040
# I wonder who it could be.
424
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,520
# It was so dark I couldn't see
425
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,360
# But I know it wasn't me
426
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:53,400
# When I tell you it ain't right
427
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,360
# I know you've
got to agree... #
428
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,280
Suddenly, these oiks
come from Canvey Island,
429
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,880
just going berserk up there,
and people were loving it.
430
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,000
# Roxette
431
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,640
# I didn't need to seek you out
432
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,120
# You know the
music played so loud
433
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,280
# But I could hear
you through the crowd
434
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,880
# You was telling everyone
435
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,760
# About a new
guy you'd found... #
436
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,720
The combination of the Feelgoods' musical
assault and their working-class geezer image
437
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,000
grabbed the pub scene
by the throat and, crucially,
438
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,440
also grabbed the attention
of a younger crowd.
439
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,120
Lee Brilleaux
looked like he would
440
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,160
punch your head in
given a moment's notice,
441
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:40,040
and Wilko Johnson was just this
mad, speed-freak looking kind of guy.
442
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:47,240
Wilko, for me, was the first
sort of guitar hero of the '70s,
443
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,920
the first person I could really relate
to. Didn't like all the widdly-diddly...
444
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,120
The sort of poodle-cut American
stadium rockers didn't mean nothing to me.
445
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,200
They're slightly forgotten
in the roots of punk,
446
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,760
but, actually, they are
the British roots of punk,
447
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,400
they're sort of the first
British punk rock group.
448
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,600
I think the line between pub
rock and punk rock is straddled by,
449
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,480
not only Dr Feelgood, but
by Eddie & The Hot Rods.
450
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,840
Get Out Of Denver, baby!
451
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,360
It was fast, and it was urgent.
452
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:26,760
# Still remember it was autumn
and the moon was shining
453
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,480
# 60 Cadillac was roaring
through Nebraska whining
454
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,520
# To hit 120, Man, the
fields was bending over
455
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,520
# Heading for the mountains
Knowing we was trailin' further
456
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,200
# The pipes were blazin' and
the screamin' wheels turnin', turnin'
457
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,440
# Had my girl beside me,
brother, she was burnin', burnin'... #
458
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,040
Hailing from Canvey Island,
459
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,520
Eddie & The Hot Rods were
direct descendants of Dr Feelgood.
460
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,040
They were steeped
in the same R&B roots,
461
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,400
but were a few, crucial years
younger than their Essex elders.
462
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,040
The Feelgoods are now,
not at the peak of their career,
463
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,480
but they're really about
as big as it can get.
464
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,520
Eddie & The Hot Rods kind of
came and snuck in under that.
465
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They were younger, and
they had a younger following,
466
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,120
and they were a very
high energy band.
467
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,120
And they went straight into
pub gigs that were ready-made.
468
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,560
They had an
almost meteoric rise.
469
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,680
The other bands in the early
days, like Ducks Deluxe, Brinsleys
470
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,120
and bands like that,
were fantastic in their right.
471
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:27,560
We put a burst
of energy into it.
472
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,840
I was quite fit in those
days, so it was just...
473
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,520
To let go of the energy I
used to go mad on stage,
474
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,040
running around,
swinging from the rafters.
475
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,560
There was no-one
else like us at the time.
476
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,760
The punk generation had reached the legal
age and begun to infiltrate the pub scene.
477
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,760
Faced with a front
man of their own age,
478
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,680
they adopted Eddie & The
Hot Rods as one of their own.
479
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,440
You went to see people like
Eddie & The Hot Rods, '75, '76,
480
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,600
because they were playing a
very basic, punky type of R&B.
481
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,760
You know, it was music that
you felt you could identify with.
482
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,080
Their eyes were bulging,
they looked the part,
483
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,720
they were playing at a tempo
that no-one in LA was playing at.
484
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,520
And they were ours.
485
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,520
The Rods cranked
up the energy on stage,
486
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,440
but their set still relied
on American rock covers.
487
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,320
What would soon set punk apart
was a voice with a vision of Britain
488
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,160
as it felt and smelled to
the kids it had set adrift.
489
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,400
# I was saying let me out of
here before I was even born
490
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,960
# It's such a gamble
when you get a face
491
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,280
# I belong to the generation but
492
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,080
# I can take it or
leave it each time... #
493
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,360
It was still that sort of
hangover from the '60s
494
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,000
that went on into the mid '70s,
495
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,760
where people were still walking around
in massive great big flairs this big,
496
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,640
and your dad wearing pasty
kipper ties and matching shirts
497
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,400
and all that sort
of gear from C&A's.
498
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560
# Kisses for me
499
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,800
# Save all your
kisses for me... #
500
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,920
They were getting into
the flower power thing,
501
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,840
but like six years
later or something.
502
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,440
# Don't cry,
honey, don't cry... #
503
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,680
And if it wasn't bad
enough having to suffer
504
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,960
the bad taste
hangover from the '60s,
505
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,280
the Britain this generation had
inherited was also looking worse for wear.
506
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,920
I can only give
you one gallon, sir.
507
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,240
That'll get you to
your nearest garage.
508
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,920
So the South Wales miners have
decided to turn the screw further.
509
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,600
Their latest action... Huge piles of
rubbish after the demonstration...
510
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,440
CROWD SHOUTING
511
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,840
Ferguson? Here.
Gottley? Sir. Green? Sir.
512
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,280
Chambers? Sir. Londale. Sir.
513
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,560
Linda Ayre?
514
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,440
Anyone seen Linda Ayre?
515
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,960
Because of that attitude absolutely
rampant in the education system
516
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,960
of telling you you really
didn't have a future,
517
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,920
that you had no job prospects,
518
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,640
no matter how well you
achieved academically.
519
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,440
It's like, "Why bother?
Know your place."
520
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,360
The situation in Britain
sort of produced us.
521
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,880
It sort of give us
a place, in a way,
522
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,360
because that lack of things meant
that you had to do something for yourself.
523
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,200
For me, that was music.
524
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,440
Music was just as important
to the punk generation
525
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,360
as it had been to their
parents in the '60s.
526
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,440
But the characters they would
become had been nurtured
527
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,880
by a very different set
of sounds and images.
528
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,400
# She's faster than most
529
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,520
# And she lives on
the coast Uh-huh... #
530
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,880
There would be no
punk without glam.
531
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,280
Bolan was this outright,
straight-in-your-face
532
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,000
"I'm going to be a pop star,
I'm going to have all your money,
533
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,280
"all your girlfriends,
you've had it."
534
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,960
And I remember
watching Top Of The Pops
535
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,800
and Bolan was doing Hot Love,
and I'd never seen anything like it,
536
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,400
these girls were just,
like, whacking off.
537
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,120
And I thought, "That's
what I want to get stuck into."
538
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,240
The flamboyant gods of glam
divided Britain's male population.
539
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,800
The blokes, who inhabited
the pub rock scene,
540
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,520
were wary of their
gender bending ways.
541
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,720
But for the younger generation,
542
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,440
Ziggy Stardust was an
exotic beacon of hope.
543
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,120
# Poor Jean Genie
544
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,000
# Snuck into the city
545
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,480
# Strung out on lasers
546
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,280
# And slash back blazers... #
547
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,960
It was the first thing
that had appeared
548
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,880
on Top Of The Pops for
years that your dad didn't like.
549
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,360
It was shocking and it
was sexually ambiguous,
550
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,560
and he was thin and
he was charismatic...
551
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,320
# Jean Genie loves
chimney stacks
552
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,760
# He's outrageous He
screams and he bawls
553
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,400
# Jean Genie,
let yourself go... #
554
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,680
Rock music still had the power
555
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,200
to flaunt the gap
between the generations.
556
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,760
And another potent
new ingredient in the mix
557
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,920
had swaggered across
the Atlantic in 1973
558
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,960
in the form of the
New York Dolls.
559
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,440
# Jet boys fly Jet boys gone
560
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,360
# Jet boys stole my baby... #
561
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,400
The New York Dolls
appearing on Whistle Test,
562
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,440
that for me was like,
563
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,960
"Whoa, I'm not going to go
to work in that fucking factory."
564
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,680
It was like, "Whoa!
I want to be that."
565
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:45,880
# My baby... #
566
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,960
New York Dolls
were the first band
567
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,000
to be insulted on The
Old Grey Whistle Test.
568
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,200
An American group
who are to the Stones
569
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,000
what The Monkees
were to The Beatles -
570
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,560
a pale and amusing derivative.
571
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,680
Bob Harris said
afterwards, "Mock rock,"
572
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,200
as though, "This is just a joke,
we can't take this seriously."
573
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:12,240
Mock rock.
574
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,120
One man in particular
begged to differ with Bob Harris.
575
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,840
By the mid '70s, Malcolm
McLaren had begun to lose interest
576
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,880
in the Ted revival and the
Dolls became his new obsession.
577
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,000
New York Dolls were in town
and they went into Let It Rock
578
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,880
and Malcolm kind of
fell in love with them.
579
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,000
He went to New York to
manage them for a while,
580
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,320
and that all fell apart.
581
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,920
He came back and
decided he'd do a UK band
582
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,280
that were confrontational
and rocking in the same way.
583
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,280
In 1974, McLaren overhauled
his Kings Road shop, Let It Rock.
584
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,520
Sex would be its
provocative new name.
585
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,160
The new thing we decided
to do was far more subversive
586
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,760
and far more
overtly sexual for us,
587
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,960
and something that we felt we
had suddenly arrived in the '70s.
588
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Sex, and McLaren's
British take on the Dolls,
589
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,680
would be fresh,
new and shocking.
590
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,520
I used to go in there when it was Let It Rock,
which was basically a second-hand Teddy Boy shop.
591
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,320
Then it was Sex, and
Sex was a scary shop.
592
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,960
You wouldn't just go in Sex,
it was rubber and leather,
593
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,520
and Jordan was in there and she was
very intimidating. That was the idea of it.
594
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,320
Alongside Jordan, and in
amongst the gimp masks,
595
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,560
was Saturday boy and
aspiring rock star Glen Matlock.
596
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,320
The shop was at the wrong end
of the Kings Road and it attracted
597
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,360
all these nut-case weirdos and
Steve and Paul would come in as well.
598
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,800
I think it was to try and nick stuff
and it was my job to stop them.
599
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,280
Steve Jones and Paul Cook
also shared Glen's ambition
600
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,960
to form a band.
601
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,200
I guess we were
looking for something
602
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,000
that kids like us could go and
see, cos there was nothing like that.
603
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,040
There was a kind of pub rock
scene going around at the time,
604
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,320
which was the only
thing happening
605
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,680
and we thought we could
jump in on the back of that
606
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,280
and make our own
scene, if you like.
607
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,280
Encouraged by McLaren,
608
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,720
keen to extend his new
brand to the music business,
609
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,640
all they needed
now was a frontman.
610
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,480
Everybody had long hair -
611
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,400
your bank manager, your
milkman, they had long hair,
612
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,040
slightly over the ears,
and flared trousers.
613
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,080
If we saw somebody in the street
who had short hair and tight trousers
614
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,360
we would just say, "Do you
fancy yourself as a singer?"
615
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,320
Up until that point
of joining the Pistols,
616
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,160
I'd never even
conceived of singing.
617
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,280
So unsinging became
kind of oddly enough
618
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,080
the most appropriate
approach to the Pistols.
619
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,640
We invited him back to
audition in front of the jukebox
620
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,320
and we put a
couple of records on,
621
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,800
one of them being
Eighteen by Alice Cooper.
622
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,800
He liked Alice Cooper. He
just sort of took the piss out of it,
623
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,520
but the way he
took the piss out of it,
624
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,280
there was something about him.
625
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,000
In 19-year-old John Lydon
626
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,200
the fledgling Sex Pistols had
happened upon a kind of visionary.
627
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,880
He shared their
interest in music,
628
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,360
but also had a burning desire
to tell the truth of his generation.
629
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,360
I couldn't play an instrument,
630
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,200
so the boys were great there.
631
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,160
But they couldn't actually
write songs, any of them.
632
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,560
If they were going be the
songwriters in that respect,
633
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,360
it would end up being
versions of other things
634
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,440
and Johnny came in with a
completely different attitude to that.
635
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,320
There was a bit of
tension about that,
636
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,720
but I think I proved my point.
637
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,200
You know, the written
word, you know,
638
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,320
it's an incredibly
important thing
639
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,160
and I think up until the Sex
Pistols, everything was a lie.
640
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,080
Alongside Johnny Rotten,
641
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:06,280
one other man would become known
as the voice of the punk generation.
642
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,960
But in 1975, Joe Strummer
was just one member
643
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,280
in a band of
refusenik post-hippies
644
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,680
taking refuge from '70s
Britain in a West London squat.
645
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,040
# Johnny is a
wanderer tied to a guitar
646
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,520
# Thinks he's going
to change the world... #
647
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,880
There wasn't much money about
648
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,760
and a lot of people just needed a
place to live, very much like today!
649
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,720
The 101ers was a squatting
band. They came from the squatters.
650
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,360
It was named, not after
the George Orwell room,
651
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,080
but 101 Walterton Road
where they were squatting.
652
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,720
# Johnny had a
temperature Saw a pretty face
653
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,720
# Tried to walk it on a lead
654
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,680
# Counted out his money,
Charged them to his health...
655
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,960
I think the seeds of what we
would now term punk mentality
656
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,080
were there in that house.
657
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,720
You know, you could be
on your way to the kitchen
658
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:08,640
and suddenly become
the bass player.
659
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,240
Having started out playing for the
amusement of their fellow squatters,
660
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:26,480
the 101ers soon graduated to their
local pub, The Elgin in Ladbroke Grove.
661
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,040
At the time the 101ers
still had their goal -
662
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,120
being a band like the Feelgoods
663
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:40,520
and being one of the, if
you like, top pub rock bands.
664
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,880
Almost overnight, this
modest ambition was realised
665
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,880
and it was the lead
singer Joe Strummer
666
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,120
and his high octane performance
that people came out to see.
667
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,000
You came into
the store and said,
668
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,040
"Saw this band at
Dingwalls last night.
669
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,840
"The lead singer's an absolute star.
We've got to do something with them."
670
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,040
And so, we then, a couple
of nights later, went out.
671
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,160
Remember it was one of those student
gigs...? South London. Barely a stage.
672
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,480
He played like he was playing in
front of 20,000 people, you know?
673
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,520
The guy's energy
was just ferocious.
674
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:24,320
Watching him, he was
like amphetamine person,
675
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,200
just going completely crazy.
676
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,120
It was just like veins
bulging out of the neck.
677
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,920
There was an anger there.
678
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:36,560
It was clear that Strummer's charisma and
conviction were set to outgrow the 101ers.
679
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,040
One night at The Nashville,
680
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,680
a new support act would set
him on his road to Damascus.
681
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,880
I was working with the
101ers and the next night,
682
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,640
they were playing The Nashville and
the Sex Pistols were the support act.
683
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,040
I walked into Nashville
684
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,520
and I got to the back and Joe
was watching the Sex Pistols.
685
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,160
I kind of felt this atmosphere when
I walked in there, really different.
686
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,880
I remember putting my hand
up like that and going to him,
687
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,960
"Do you feel that?"
688
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,800
And he went, "Yeah." I said,
"There's something different in the air."
689
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,440
There was a magical time,
from maybe the beginning of '76
690
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,400
through to late '76,
691
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,640
where you genuinely felt
something was going on.
692
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,200
You could feel something
like punk coming.
693
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,280
You could feel a change coming.
694
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,240
You weren't quite
sure what it was.
695
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:53,360
April, 1975.
696
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,040
The Americans evacuate Saigon.
697
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,080
For me, the end of the '60s.
698
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,040
Although it's 1975,
Vietnam was the...
699
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,680
central rallying
point of the 1960s.
700
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,480
It's what we protested against.
701
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,520
We went to Grosvenor
Square, shook our fists.
702
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,560
It was Beatles and Stones,
703
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,520
Mick Jagger and Tariq
Ali and Vanessa Redgrave.
704
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,040
We were angry about Vietnam.
705
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,880
Vietnam finished with the
American surrender - sorry, guys -
706
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,520
in 1975, April,
707
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,480
evacuated by helicopter
from the Embassy in Saigon.
708
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,560
November '75, a band
called the Sex Pistols
709
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,200
did their first gig at
St Martin's art school.
710
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,880
So somewhere between
April and November
711
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,840
was where that generational
baton was handed on.
712
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,480
Richard "Kid" Strange
was the cosmic leader
713
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,360
of psychedelic proto-punks,
the Doctors Of Madness.
714
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,000
They had many of the
hallmarks of what became punk
715
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,640
and were on the road
to success by 1976.
716
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,880
We got a call from our agent,
this must have been May, '76,
717
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,360
saying, "There's a band you might have
heard of, they've caused a bit of trouble.
718
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,560
"You know who I'm going
to say. It's the Sex Pistols.
719
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,560
"They want to support
you. Is that OK?"
720
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,960
I thought, "Yeah, fine,
bring it on," you know.
721
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,240
We arrived and the Pistols
were sitting in the auditorium.
722
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,440
They were naughty,
but not excessively so.
723
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,960
They looked like they were kids
bunking off school, you know?
724
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,520
They were that bit
younger than us.
725
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,680
We'd sort of been led to believe
that they might be armed, you know!
726
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,240
As harmless as they
may have appeared,
727
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:53,600
the Pistols were armed with
something so violently new
728
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,720
that any act with so much as a
whiff of the old regime about them
729
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:00,520
could now consider
themselves the enemy.
730
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,840
They opened the show and I
was watching from the wings
731
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,680
and I thought,
"It's all over for us."
732
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,480
The reaction that they
garnered was just extraordinary -
733
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,640
devotion to the point of evangelical
prostration in front of the stage.
734
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,160
# We're so pretty
735
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,520
# Oh, so pretty... #
736
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,760
Or, "What is this abomination?
It's not music." You know?
737
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,040
And, of course, in a
way, that was the point.
738
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,720
It was much better than music, it
was something to upset your parents.
739
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:41,080
# We're so pretty Oh, so pretty
740
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,560
# Vacant... #
741
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,400
You just thought...
742
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,320
"I'm two years too old."
743
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,000
And then, to compound
the whole thing,
744
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,960
by the time we came off and
got back into the dressing room,
745
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,480
the Pistols had been through our
pockets and nicked our money as well!
746
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:06,200
# And we don't care. #
747
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,200
Punk's time had come.
748
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,480
The iceberg had cometh
749
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,280
as Britain basked in record
temperatures in the summer of '76.
750
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,120
Its roots run deep and a diverse cast
had played their part in setting the scene,
751
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,480
but British punk's true birth,
752
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:26,120
the spawning of this
visceral, ugly, enticing beast
753
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,080
to be loved or hated
but impossible to ignore
754
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,320
can only be traced
to your first time -
755
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,520
the first time you
saw the Sex Pistols.
756
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,040
These four characters
stumbled onto the stage
757
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,640
and they played these songs
758
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:46,160
and they were just like nothing
else I've ever seen or heard before.
759
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,200
Wow. They played a Stooges
song, they played No Fun,
760
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,640
and they played Watcha
Gonna Do About It,
761
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,440
the old Small Faces
song, but instead of,
762
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,520
"I want you to know that
I love you, baby," it was,
763
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,720
"I want you to know that
I fucking hate you, baby."
764
00:45:57,720 --> 00:45:59,040
I thought, "That is cool."
765
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,000
Actually, they were
sort of...very beautiful.
766
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,280
They were like fairies, really.
767
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,680
Fuck me. It's the only
language I can use.
768
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,920
I mean, it was a
cultural ground zero.
769
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:16,320
You know, the sort of fairies at the
bottom of one's garden. And young.
770
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,760
I mean, I actually couldn't
hear what John was singing
771
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,120
but there was an energy and an
intensity that you could not deny.
772
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,800
What was so different
about the Sex Pistols early on
773
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,760
was they were quite
aggressive to the audience.
774
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,080
It was the eyes, it was just the
eyes, looking at the audience.
775
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,120
He'd look at them
with such hatred.
776
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,400
He was sat there, scowling,
and I felt really drawn to that.
777
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:46,720
I just loved the contradiction and I
just had never seen anything like it.
778
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,600
It just inspired me
to leave college,
779
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,400
split up with my
missus and go for it.
780
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,880
It was an event. Not so much a
musical event, but a cultural event.
781
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,720
Even then, you could see this
was different, this was important.
782
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:05,120
The electrifying message of
the Pistols was spreading fast
783
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,640
and Johnny Rotten was becoming
the oracle of the punk generation.
784
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,440
I knew that it would catch on
785
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,320
because I knew the
minute I saw Johnny Rotten
786
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,760
that he was exactly
the kind of poetic figure
787
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,200
that was going to inspire
a whole generation of kids.
788
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,400
The word "punk" is
as old as Shakespeare.
789
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,120
Although I knew that none of
the musicians of that generation
790
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,400
would particularly
like to be called punks,
791
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,800
when you're spreading the word
792
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,080
and writing it down, you
had to have this term.
793
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Suddenly, Caroline Coon
labels the Sex Pistols punk
794
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,720
and me the king of punk.
795
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,560
King Johnny went forth
to address his subjects
796
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,640
and declared war on his enemies.
797
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,480
What's this thing you've got
against hippies? They're complacent.
798
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,760
We're not supposed
to know nothing, us.
799
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,760
But it's them what did not
know a thing. How ludicrous!
800
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,480
And that was their
revolution, you know,
801
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,080
they were the
hangovers from the '60s.
802
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,800
I always knew the
'60s wasn't a revolution.
803
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,080
It really just was a bunch
of university students,
804
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,920
with somewhat wealthy
parents, having fun.
805
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,480
Condemned for
their lack of ambition,
806
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,160
overnight, the long-haired
older brothers of Britain,
807
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,120
including those pioneering pub
rockers, were yesterday's men.
808
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,440
The Pistols inspired
their generation
809
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,680
to write their own future.
810
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,720
You wanted to get involved, man.
You didn't want to be just a fan.
811
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:38,200
And it was about that kind of
empowerment and reinventing yourself.
812
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,040
I mean, Strummer
told me as much.
813
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,880
He said after he
saw the Pistols,
814
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,080
101ers was like
yesterday's newspaper.
815
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,120
Joe Strummer had been courted
816
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,600
by guitarist Mick Jones on the hunt
for a lead singer for his new band.
817
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,920
Struck by the Sex Pistols,
Strummer realised he was, in fact,
818
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,640
a punk trapped in
an pub rock band.
819
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,840
He ditched the 101ers,
jumped a generation
820
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,920
and signed up to The Clash.
821
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,240
In those days, it
was very quick.
822
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:08,040
You'd be in a
group for two weeks
823
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,520
and then you wouldn't
again, or you may be.
824
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,400
Sounds like a load of
shit. Sounds great to me.
825
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,800
'I think you're really lucky'
826
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,600
if you find the right people,
you know what I mean?
827
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,480
Then it just becomes
more than just the individual,
828
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,800
it becomes the
chemistry between...
829
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,880
You're very lucky to find that,
the right people and the right time.
830
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,840
It comes along once in a while.
831
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,160
We didn't have any agenda,
real agenda, it was just like,
832
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,120
we just want to play some tunes
and have a good time, you know.
833
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,160
The Clash didn't have
an agenda? Well, I didn't.
834
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,760
I mustn't speak for the others.
835
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,640
What sort of things do you write
about? What's going on at the moment.
836
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,200
Like what?
837
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,920
Like what? Career opportunities.
838
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,000
They're sort of like...
839
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,800
all the kids are supposed to
be like factory fodder, you know?
840
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,160
You don't learn nothing.
All you're working for
841
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,040
is just to go into a factory
842
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,720
which is round the corner,
or something like that.
843
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:17,960
# Police and thieves
in the street... #
844
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,400
What the new generation
did so successfully
845
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,600
was to create a
new British identity
846
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,440
where artists as musicians
847
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,320
are writing about their own
experience from the streets,
848
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,640
their own tragedies,
their own splendours,
849
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,960
in an English, British voice.
850
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,000
# White riot I wanna riot
851
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,640
# White riot I wanna riot... #
852
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,120
Tell me about White Riot,
what's it about? Notting Hill Gate.
853
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,720
You know that riot they had?
We was down there, me and him.
854
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,680
And we got searched by
policemen looking for bricks.
855
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,280
Later on we got
searched by a Rasta
856
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,040
looking for pound
notes in our pockets.
857
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,880
All we had was
bricks and bottles!
858
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,200
# White riot I wanna riot... #
859
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,280
The Pistols and The Clash
spearheaded the nascent punk movement
860
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,840
with a two-pronged insurgency
aimed at the powers that be.
861
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,640
They tapped the mood of violence
862
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,280
simmering under the
surface of boring '70s Britain
863
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,040
and would bear witness
when it spilled over.
864
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,840
Without this
conflict at its heart,
865
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,200
punk would have been little
more than noisy pop music.
866
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,920
But almost as important
in defining this new art form
867
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,320
was the chaotic and
often comical theatrics
868
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,600
surrounding life in a
fledgling punk band.
869
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,480
The Damned led the
way in this department.
870
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,240
# A distant man can't sympathise
871
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:09,360
# He can't uphold
his distant laws
872
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,400
# Due to form on that today
873
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,000
# I got a feeling
then I hear this call
874
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,720
# I said neat, neat, neat
She can't afford a cannon
875
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:19,280
# Neat, neat, neat She
can't afford a gun... #
876
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,040
You had Vanian looking
like some fucking vampire,
877
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,640
Captain, once he
got called Captain,
878
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,080
he changed from being
quite a meek Ray Burns
879
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,560
into this
clown-cum-raving idiot,
880
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,040
where you didn't know what
he was going to dress in next.
881
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,360
It could be a bloody tutu,
882
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,880
a ballerina's tutu, or a
nurse's outfit, or whatever.
883
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,120
Yeah, I've always liked
dressing up, it has to be said.
884
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,720
The back of the first album
cover, I wore a nurse's uniform.
885
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:47,200
The funny thing was, I actually
found I was quite enjoying wearing it.
886
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,640
# Neat, neat, neat She
can't afford a cannon... #
887
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,480
It allowed everyone
to live their fantasies,
888
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,760
which is a wonderful thing.
889
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,880
The Damned taught a generation
that they weren't stuck with their lot.
890
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,960
They called themselves names
and revelled in their grotesque image.
891
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,680
They WERE the damned.
892
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,680
Punk was reflecting the
ugliness of Britain back at itself
893
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,200
and if you didn't get
this, you'd be left behind.
894
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,720
What was marvellous about
it all, what was so hilarious
895
00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:22,840
was that, of course, the major
record companies thought,
896
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,680
"This can't be
real! This... What?
897
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,920
"We're going to have to
put this music out shortly?
898
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,200
"What? This is going
to be in the charts?
899
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,800
"I hate it, it's disgusting!"
900
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,440
It was said at the time
901
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,160
that you could hear the sound of
record company executives' bodies
902
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,760
hitting the pavement
from the high buildings.
903
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,400
Having transformed London's
live music scene a few years earlier,
904
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,520
the entrepreneurs behind pub
rock now saw an opportunity
905
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,320
to embrace and enable
the punk generation.
906
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,440
Here is a musical movement. All
these kids want to buy something.
907
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,840
They can buy a
few one-off little bits
908
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:07,600
but they want to buy something
big to show their badge of credibility.
909
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,680
Stiff put the
records out quicker.
910
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,320
We were quicker, we were
faster, we were brasher,
911
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,640
we were noisier and
we were the best.
912
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,840
There was a real vibe to it.
There was no big office for them,
913
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,440
they were just in an old
shopfront on Alexander Street.
914
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,360
And it was like, everyone was
bagging records and doing it -
915
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,080
everyone was
mucking in doing stuff.
916
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,960
It had Nick Lowe
as a house producer.
917
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,480
It had Dave and Jake, who
knew how to market records
918
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,160
in an original, innovative way.
919
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,480
A band like The Damned was
almost tailor-made for them, really.
920
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,080
Stiff signed The
Damned in late '76
921
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,920
and put them straight in the studio
with house producer Nick Lowe,
922
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,960
of pub rockers
Brinsley Schwarz fame.
923
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,920
I made quite a lot of records
up there in that little place.
924
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:59,560
Occasionally - and I
can think of on one hand -
925
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,840
we did something in there
which you could not believe.
926
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,560
It was the first time I'd ever
been in a recording studio.
927
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,800
I'd seen Let It Be and I thought,
"This is going to be great."
928
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:16,080
And then we got into this sort
of cupboard with a tape recorder.
929
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,640
What they created that day
in those modest surroundings
930
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,480
would encapsulate the
pure essence of punk
931
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,800
and become the very first punk
single to be released in Britain.
932
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,160
We could not believe it.
We could not believe it.
933
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,520
It seemed like it was
almost unsettling.
934
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,760
It's a cracking riff, yeah, it's a
cracking riff. Absolutely watertight.
935
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,400
He played it back and there was
something that was just totally exciting.
936
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,440
It was like a genuine rush.
937
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,080
You know when you're walking
out in the country somewhere
938
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,520
and suddenly an F1
jetfighter screams above you
939
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,080
and it just whaaaa...
940
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,560
# I got a feeling inside me
941
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,560
# It's kind of strange
like a stormy sea... #
942
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,440
There's something so
fundamental about it.
943
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,360
That's what made
it startlingly original.
944
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,440
It's an ancient story somehow
told in a brand-new way.
945
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:32,960
You've got to be made of
bloomin' wood not be touched by it.
946
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:38,320
# I never thought this
could happen to me
947
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,640
# Something strange
Oh, what should it be?
948
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,840
Another first in true
Stiff Records style
949
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,360
was the DIY filming of
this video for New Rose
950
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,840
at the bastion of pub
rock, The Hope & Anchor,
951
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,160
drawing a direct line
to punk's humble roots.
952
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,800
I mean, that was
two run-throughs
953
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,360
with a camera at
two different angles,
954
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,800
maybe three, and that was it.
955
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,360
Edited that night and we
had the video in the morning.
956
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,480
# I've got a new
rose I've got her good
957
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,320
# Guess I knew that
I always would... #
958
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,360
People have asked me over the
years, "What's New Rose about?
959
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,320
"Is it like a love story?"
960
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,480
I've got a feeling that it's
probably, as much as anything,
961
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,600
about what was happening
with the punk scene.
962
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,920
The New Rose was
this developing thing.
963
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,320
I've never been
that much into lyrics,
964
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,440
I'm more of a guitar
player, you know.
965
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,560
The same month The Damned's
New Rose was released,
966
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:46,040
the Sex Pistols inked a deal
with music business old farts, EMI.
967
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,680
And their debut signal,
Anarchy In The UK,
968
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,720
hit the streets in November '76.
969
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,120
It was time for punk
to go above ground
970
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,000
and into direct contact with
those it was designed to offend.
971
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:03,600
I've done everything humanly
possible to ban this thing and to stop it.
972
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:09,360
1977, the year of punk,
was just around the corner.
973
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,760
Go on, you've got another five
seconds. Say something outrageous.
974
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,120
You dirty bastard. Go
on, again. You dirty fucker.
975
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,120
What a clever boy(!)
What a fucking rotter.
976
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,360
Well, that's it for tonight.
977
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,800
# I am an antichrist
978
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,520
# I am an anarchist
979
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,800
# Don't know what I want
But I know how to get it
980
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,480
# I wanna destroy the passer-by
981
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:40,520
# Cos I wanna be
982
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,520
# Anarchy... #
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