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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:15,200 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:26,633 --> 00:00:31,500 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 3 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:33,066 John: WELCOME, WELCOME, 4 00:00:33,066 --> 00:00:35,300 WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT!" 5 00:00:35,300 --> 00:00:36,033 I'M JOHN OLIVER, THANKS FOR 6 00:00:36,033 --> 00:00:38,266 JOINING US. 7 00:00:38,266 --> 00:00:42,300 IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK, FROM 8 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:45,866 THE U.S. VETOING A CEASE-FIRE IN 9 00:00:45,866 --> 00:00:46,800 GAZA YET AGAIN, TO THE 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,100 REVELATION THAT JOE BIDEN'S DOG 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,133 BIT SECRET SERVICE AGENTS AT 12 00:00:50,133 --> 00:00:50,666 LEAST 24 DIFFERENT TIMES. 13 00:00:50,666 --> 00:00:51,633 BUT WE'RE GOING TO START IN WEST 14 00:00:51,633 --> 00:00:52,933 VIRGINIA, WHICH HAS SPENT THE 15 00:00:52,933 --> 00:00:53,533 PAST SEVERAL WEEKS DEBATING A 16 00:00:53,533 --> 00:00:54,033 BILL TO IMPOSE CRIMINAL 17 00:00:54,033 --> 00:00:54,666 PENALTIES FOR EXPOSING CHILDREN 18 00:00:54,666 --> 00:00:55,400 TO "OBSCENE" LITERATURE IN 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,033 SCHOOLS AND LIBRARIES. 20 00:00:58,033 --> 00:00:58,566 THE DEBATE'S FEATURED SOME 21 00:00:58,566 --> 00:01:00,233 SPECTACULAR TESTIMONY FROM 22 00:01:00,233 --> 00:01:02,000 CONCERNED CITIZENS, READING OUT 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,533 MATERIAL THEY OBJECTED TO. 24 00:01:02,533 --> 00:01:04,600 ARE YOU GONNA EAT HER PUSSY? 25 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,200 YEAH, EARL, I'M GONNA EAT HER 26 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,066 PUSSY. 27 00:01:08,066 --> 00:01:08,933 HEY, YEAH. 28 00:01:08,933 --> 00:01:10,000 DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO EAT 29 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,700 PUSSY? 30 00:01:10,700 --> 00:01:12,333 PAPA GAINES NEVER SAT YOU DOWN, 31 00:01:12,333 --> 00:01:16,033 SAID "SON, ONE DAY, YOU'RE GOING 32 00:01:16,033 --> 00:01:17,533 TO HAVE TO EAT THE PUSSY?" 33 00:01:17,533 --> 00:01:21,033 NO. 34 00:01:21,133 --> 00:01:21,700 BUT HE DID TEACH ME HOW TO EAT A 35 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:28,166 BUTTHOLE. 36 00:01:28,166 --> 00:01:29,066 John: LOOK, I ADMIT, I DON'T 37 00:01:29,066 --> 00:01:30,500 REMEMBER THAT SCENE FROM "THE 38 00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:32,400 GIVING TREE." 39 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,000 BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE, AND IN 40 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,933 RETROSPECT, IT DOES MAKE SENSE 41 00:01:34,933 --> 00:01:36,533 FOR THE TREE TO SIT THE BOY DOWN 42 00:01:36,533 --> 00:01:38,600 AND EXPLAIN HOW TO ROCK THE BOX. 43 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,800 IT'S AN IMPORTANT LESSON. 44 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,100 BUT WHILE THAT HEARING WAS 45 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:41,833 RIDICULOUS, THE LAW ITSELF IS 46 00:01:41,833 --> 00:01:43,533 SERIOUS. 47 00:01:43,533 --> 00:01:44,166 VIOLATING IT COULD CARRY A 48 00:01:44,166 --> 00:01:45,866 FELONY CHARGE, WITH A PENALTY OF 49 00:01:45,866 --> 00:01:46,500 $25,000 AND A SENTENCE OF UP TO 50 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:49,033 5-YEARS. 51 00:01:49,033 --> 00:01:50,266 MANY HAVE CALLED IT A "BOOK BAN" 52 00:01:50,266 --> 00:01:55,400 ALTHOUGH THE BILL'S BACKERS 53 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:56,733 PUSHED BACK ON THAT, WITH ONE OF 54 00:01:56,733 --> 00:01:57,466 THE SPEAKERS WHO SUPPORTED IT 55 00:01:57,466 --> 00:01:58,300 SAYING, "WE ARE NOT BANNING OR 56 00:01:58,300 --> 00:01:58,866 BURNING, WE ARE PROTECTING." 57 00:01:58,866 --> 00:02:00,733 ALTHOUGH I'LL TELL YOU WHAT 58 00:02:00,733 --> 00:02:01,200 YOU'RE DEFINITELY NOT 59 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:01,833 PROTECTING, AND THAT'S MY EARS 60 00:02:01,833 --> 00:02:02,800 FROM HEARING "EAT THE PUSSY" 61 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,666 FOUR TIMES OUT OF THIS WOMAN'S 62 00:02:03,666 --> 00:02:05,133 MOUTH. 63 00:02:05,133 --> 00:02:06,600 BUT WHILE WEST VIRGINIA MAY NOT 64 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,166 BE BURNING BOOKS, OBSCENITY 65 00:02:07,166 --> 00:02:08,733 BILLS AND SIMILAR MORAL PANICS 66 00:02:08,733 --> 00:02:09,700 ARE SPREADING AROUND THE 67 00:02:09,700 --> 00:02:10,433 COUNTRY, IN PLACES LIKE 68 00:02:10,433 --> 00:02:11,433 MISSOURI, WHERE A CANDIDATE FOR 69 00:02:11,433 --> 00:02:14,666 OFFICE RELEASED THIS VIDEO. 70 00:02:14,666 --> 00:02:16,766 THIS IS WHAT I WILL DO TO THE 71 00:02:16,766 --> 00:02:17,366 GROOMING BOOKS WHEN I BECOME 72 00:02:17,366 --> 00:02:22,300 SECRETARY OF STATE. 73 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:25,400 ♪ ♪ 74 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,266 THESE BOOKS COME FROM A MISSOURI 75 00:02:26,266 --> 00:02:27,133 PUBLIC LIBRARY. 76 00:02:27,233 --> 00:02:28,800 WHEN I'M IN OFFICE, THEY WILL 77 00:02:28,900 --> 00:02:29,033 BURN. 78 00:02:29,033 --> 00:02:29,533 John: OKAY. 79 00:02:29,533 --> 00:02:30,533 THERE'S A LOT TO NOT LIKE THERE, 80 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:32,066 INCLUDING THAT HER FLAMETHROWER 81 00:02:32,066 --> 00:02:32,800 IS APPARENTLY FUELED BY LIBERAL 82 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:33,766 TEARS. 83 00:02:33,766 --> 00:02:35,100 WHICH... 84 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:35,833 WHAT? 85 00:02:35,833 --> 00:02:36,966 I'M NOT SAYING THE GOP'S 86 00:02:36,966 --> 00:02:38,800 MESSAGING IS IN DISARRAY, BUT... 87 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,400 ARE LIBERAL TEARS THE THING YOU 88 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,200 LOVE TO DRINK BECAUSE YOUR 89 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,066 ENEMIES' SADNESS TASTES SO 90 00:02:42,066 --> 00:02:45,066 SWEET? 91 00:02:45,066 --> 00:02:46,233 OR, IS IT THE DEADLY FUEL FOR 92 00:02:46,233 --> 00:02:46,800 YOUR VERY COOL SHARK-THEMED 93 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:53,666 FLAMETHROWER? 94 00:02:53,666 --> 00:02:54,700 YOU'VE GOT TO PICK A FUCKING 95 00:02:54,700 --> 00:02:57,033 LANE. 96 00:02:57,033 --> 00:02:58,266 BUT FOR NOW, LET'S TURN TO 97 00:02:58,266 --> 00:02:58,900 ALABAMA, WHICH HAS BEEN REELING 98 00:02:58,900 --> 00:02:59,533 AFTER A MAJOR DECISION FROM ITS 99 00:02:59,533 --> 00:03:00,900 HIGHEST COURT. 100 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,066 THIS MORNING, A FIRST OF ITS 101 00:03:02,166 --> 00:03:02,666 KIND DECISION BY THE ALABAMA 102 00:03:02,666 --> 00:03:03,233 SUPREME COURT THAT COULD PUT 103 00:03:03,233 --> 00:03:04,000 FAMILIES' ACCESS TO FERTILITY 104 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,600 TREATMENTS IN THE POST-ROE ERA 105 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,700 AT RISK. 106 00:03:05,700 --> 00:03:06,533 THE COURT, DETERMINING FROZEN 107 00:03:06,533 --> 00:03:08,833 EMBRYOS QUALIFY AS PEOPLE UNDER 108 00:03:08,833 --> 00:03:10,066 ITS STATE LAW, RULING UNBORN 109 00:03:10,066 --> 00:03:12,600 CHILDREN ARE CHILDREN WITHOUT 110 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,233 EXCEPTION BASED ON DEVELOPMENTAL 111 00:03:13,233 --> 00:03:14,800 STAGE. 112 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,133 John: YEAH. 113 00:03:16,133 --> 00:03:17,866 THEY RULED FROZEN EMBRYOS ARE 114 00:03:17,866 --> 00:03:18,433 THE SAME AS PEOPLE, WHICH IS 115 00:03:18,433 --> 00:03:19,366 WRONG FOR A BUNCH OF REASONS-- 116 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:21,166 MAINLY, IF YOU FREEZE AN EMBRYO, 117 00:03:21,166 --> 00:03:22,000 IT'S FINE. 118 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,300 IF YOU FREEZE A PERSON, YOU HAVE 119 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:27,900 SOME EXPLAINING TO DO. 120 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:30,133 THAT RULING COULD HAVE MASSIVE 121 00:03:30,133 --> 00:03:30,700 IMPLICATIONS FOR ANYONE WHO 122 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:31,300 NEEDS IVF TO CONCEIVE-- AND 123 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:33,533 THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. 124 00:03:33,633 --> 00:03:34,333 AROUND 2% OF BABIES BORN IN THE 125 00:03:34,433 --> 00:03:36,833 US ARE FROM IVF. 126 00:03:36,833 --> 00:03:38,966 ALREADY, MULTIPLE FERTILITY 127 00:03:38,966 --> 00:03:40,666 CLINICS HAVE PAUSED TREATMENT IN 128 00:03:40,666 --> 00:03:41,833 THE WAKE OF THE DECISION-- 129 00:03:41,833 --> 00:03:42,400 WHICH, AS ANYONE WHO'S EVER 130 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,733 UNDERGONE IVF WILL TELL YOU, 131 00:03:43,733 --> 00:03:45,366 ISN'T SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST DO. 132 00:03:45,366 --> 00:03:47,066 IVF CYCLES TAKE WEEKS OF CAREFUL 133 00:03:47,066 --> 00:03:48,566 MONITORING AND EXPENSIVE 134 00:03:48,566 --> 00:03:50,033 TREATMENTS. 135 00:03:50,033 --> 00:03:51,466 YOU CAN'T JUS HIT PAUSE AND 136 00:03:51,466 --> 00:03:53,133 WAIT OUT A COURT CASE. 137 00:03:53,133 --> 00:03:54,566 THIS IS A SEISMIC DECISION, AND 138 00:03:54,566 --> 00:03:55,333 THE REASON THE COURT WAS HEARING 139 00:03:55,333 --> 00:03:56,166 THIS CASE TO BEGIN WITH WAS 140 00:03:56,166 --> 00:03:58,800 PRETTY WILD. 141 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,633 THE CASE IN QUESTION INVOLVED 142 00:04:01,633 --> 00:04:02,266 A PATIENT WHO MANAGED TO ACCESS 143 00:04:02,266 --> 00:04:04,000 THE FREEZER STORING FROZEN 144 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,266 EMBRYOS AT AN ALABAMA FERTILITY 145 00:04:05,266 --> 00:04:06,366 CLINIC. 146 00:04:06,366 --> 00:04:07,633 THE PATIENT PICKED UP MULTIPLE 147 00:04:07,733 --> 00:04:08,666 EMBRYOS AND MISTAKENLY DROPPED 148 00:04:08,766 --> 00:04:11,433 AND DESTROYED THEM. 149 00:04:11,433 --> 00:04:13,600 John: YEAH-- THE COURT RULED 150 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,200 THAT THE CLINIC COULD BE SUED 151 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,566 FOR WRONGFUL DEATH. 152 00:04:15,566 --> 00:04:16,766 AND WHILE THAT ACCIDENT'S 153 00:04:16,766 --> 00:04:18,600 GENUINELY HORRIBLE, SOMEONE 154 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,900 WANDERING INTO A LAB AND 155 00:04:21,900 --> 00:04:24,000 DROPPING FROZEN EMBRYOS JUST 156 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,100 ISN'T MURDER. 157 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:26,733 IF ANYTHING, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE 158 00:04:26,733 --> 00:04:30,833 SCRIPT FOR A PRETTY TASTELESS 159 00:04:30,833 --> 00:04:33,333 "MR. BEAN" SEQUEL. 160 00:04:33,333 --> 00:04:34,433 AND LOOK: THE REASON CLINICS ARE 161 00:04:34,433 --> 00:04:35,233 PAUSING TREATMENT RIGHT NOW IS 162 00:04:35,233 --> 00:04:36,833 THAT NOBODY QUITE KNOWS WHAT IT 163 00:04:36,833 --> 00:04:37,600 COULD MEAN FOR AN EMBRYO TO BE 164 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,233 LEGALLY EQUIVALENT TO A PERSON, 165 00:04:38,233 --> 00:04:40,133 GOING FORWARD. 166 00:04:40,233 --> 00:04:40,733 WHAT HAPPENS IF AN EMBRYO IS 167 00:04:40,733 --> 00:04:41,400 STORED IMPROPERLY? 168 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:42,800 WHAT IF THEY'RE-- AS INEVITABLY 169 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,533 HAPPENS-- LEFT OVER OR 170 00:04:43,533 --> 00:04:44,633 DESTROYED IN THE IMPLANTATION 171 00:04:44,633 --> 00:04:45,666 PROCESS? 172 00:04:45,666 --> 00:04:47,000 WHAT ABOUT GENETIC TESTING, 173 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,600 WHICH CAN REDUCE THE RISK OF 174 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,200 MISCARRIAGE, BUT DOES CARRY A 175 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,733 SLIGHT RISK OF DAMAGING EMBRYOS? 176 00:04:50,733 --> 00:04:51,333 WOULD THAT NOW BE CONSIDERED A 177 00:04:51,333 --> 00:04:53,900 WRONGFUL DEATH? 178 00:04:53,900 --> 00:04:54,933 IT'S CHAOS, AND EXPERTS SAY 179 00:04:54,933 --> 00:04:57,333 COURTS IN OTHER STATES COULD TRY 180 00:04:57,333 --> 00:04:59,433 AND ISSUE SIMILAR RULINGS. 181 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:00,966 BUT NONE OF THIS SHOULD BE 182 00:05:00,966 --> 00:05:01,266 SURPRISING. 183 00:05:01,266 --> 00:05:02,366 THIS RULING IS A NATURAL 184 00:05:02,366 --> 00:05:04,900 OUTGROWTH OF THE CONCEPT OF 185 00:05:04,900 --> 00:05:05,533 "FETAL PERSONHOOD," LONG PUSHED 186 00:05:05,533 --> 00:05:07,333 BY HARDLINE ANTI-ABORTION 187 00:05:07,333 --> 00:05:10,000 GROUPS, WHICH REPUBLICANS HAVE 188 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,566 SPENT DECADES COURTING. 189 00:05:11,566 --> 00:05:12,500 AND SOME POLITICIANS SUDDENLY 190 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:13,800 SEEM ALARMED TO HAVE TO DEAL 191 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:14,333 WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF A 192 00:05:14,433 --> 00:05:16,733 MOVEMENT THEY EMPOWERED. 193 00:05:16,733 --> 00:05:17,500 NIKKI HALEY, FOR INSTANCE, SPENT 194 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:18,733 THE WEEK TRYING TO RECONCILE HER 195 00:05:18,733 --> 00:05:19,933 POSITION THAT "WHEN YOU'RE 196 00:05:19,933 --> 00:05:21,566 TALKING ABOUT AN EMBRYO, YOU'RE 197 00:05:21,566 --> 00:05:23,900 TALKING ABOUT A LIFE," WITH WHAT 198 00:05:23,900 --> 00:05:25,533 THAT ACTUALLY MEANS IN LEGAL 199 00:05:25,533 --> 00:05:27,600 TERMS. 200 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,833 MEANWHILE, WATCH AS ALABAMA 201 00:05:28,833 --> 00:05:34,100 SENATOR TOMMY TUBERVILLE SEEMED 202 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:35,533 TO REALIZE THE PROBLEMS WITH HIS 203 00:05:35,533 --> 00:05:37,566 POSITION IN REAL TIME. 204 00:05:37,566 --> 00:05:38,200 DO YOU HAVE A REACTION TO THE 205 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:38,833 ALABAMA SUPREME COURT RULING ON 206 00:05:38,833 --> 00:05:39,366 THE FACT THAT EMBRYOS ARE 207 00:05:39,366 --> 00:05:40,433 CHILDREN? 208 00:05:40,433 --> 00:05:40,966 YEAH, I WAS ALL FOR IT. 209 00:05:40,966 --> 00:05:42,500 WE NEED TO HAVE MORE KIDS. 210 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:44,533 WE NEED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY 211 00:05:44,533 --> 00:05:44,833 TO DO THAT. 212 00:05:44,833 --> 00:05:46,033 I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS THE 213 00:05:46,033 --> 00:05:46,433 RIGHT THING TO DO. 214 00:05:46,433 --> 00:05:47,066 BUT IVF IS USED TO HAVE MORE 215 00:05:47,066 --> 00:05:48,000 CHILDREN, AND RIGHT NOW IVF 216 00:05:48,100 --> 00:05:49,633 SERVICES ARE PAUSED AT SOME OF 217 00:05:49,633 --> 00:05:50,566 THE CLINICS IN ALABAMA. 218 00:05:50,566 --> 00:05:51,633 AREN'T YOU CONCERNED THAT THIS 219 00:05:51,633 --> 00:05:52,733 COULD IMPACT PEOPLE WHO ARE 220 00:05:52,733 --> 00:05:54,433 TRYING TO HAVE KIDS? 221 00:05:54,433 --> 00:05:56,000 WELL, THAT'S FOR-- THAT'S 222 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,066 FOR ANOTHER CONVERSATION. 223 00:05:57,066 --> 00:05:58,600 SENATOR, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO 224 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,200 WOMEN RIGHT NOW IN ALABAMA WHO 225 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,266 CAN NO LONGER ACCESS IVF AND 226 00:06:02,266 --> 00:06:02,833 WILL NOT AS A RESULT OF THIS 227 00:06:02,833 --> 00:06:06,600 RULING? 228 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,166 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM? 229 00:06:08,166 --> 00:06:10,200 WELL, THAT'S A HARD ONE. 230 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,000 IT REALLY IS. 231 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,933 IT'S REALLY HARD. 232 00:06:12,933 --> 00:06:13,566 'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO 233 00:06:13,566 --> 00:06:15,466 HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. 234 00:06:15,466 --> 00:06:17,633 AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING 235 00:06:17,633 --> 00:06:18,133 HER, WE NEED MORE KIDS. 236 00:06:18,133 --> 00:06:18,666 John: WELL, GUESS WHAT, 237 00:06:18,666 --> 00:06:19,266 TOMMY? 238 00:06:19,266 --> 00:06:20,766 I'VE GOT GREAT NEWS! 239 00:06:20,866 --> 00:06:23,133 SINCE YOUR POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY 240 00:06:23,133 --> 00:06:23,766 SEEMS TO BEGIN AND END WITH "WE 241 00:06:23,766 --> 00:06:24,333 NEED MORE KIDS," YOU'LL BE 242 00:06:24,333 --> 00:06:25,666 THRILLED TO KNOW THAT THANKS TO 243 00:06:25,666 --> 00:06:26,733 A JUDGE IN ALABAMA, THERE'S NOW 244 00:06:26,733 --> 00:06:29,266 WHOLE FREEZERS FULL OF THEM! 245 00:06:29,266 --> 00:06:30,066 GO PLAY WITH ALL THOSE FROSTY 246 00:06:30,066 --> 00:06:31,300 KIDS, SENATOR! 247 00:06:31,300 --> 00:06:32,800 OR MAYBE, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU 248 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,266 HAD IN MIND WHEN YOU THINK OF 249 00:06:35,266 --> 00:06:35,866 CHILDREN, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE 250 00:06:35,866 --> 00:06:37,633 FUCKING POINT. 251 00:06:37,633 --> 00:06:38,266 REPUBLICANS ARE IN A TOUGH SPOT 252 00:06:38,266 --> 00:06:39,133 RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO HOLD ONTO 253 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:41,400 HARDLINE ANTI-ABORTION FORCES, 254 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,233 WHILE NOT ALIENATING THE 255 00:06:42,233 --> 00:06:44,366 MAJORITY OF AMERICANS. 256 00:06:44,366 --> 00:06:45,066 AND MAYBE, THE BEST EXAMPLE OF 257 00:06:45,066 --> 00:06:48,533 THAT RIGHT NOW HAS TO DO WITH 258 00:06:51,166 --> 00:06:53,100 AND MAY BECOME OF THE BEST 259 00:06:53,100 --> 00:06:54,733 EXAMPLE OF THIS IS DONALD TRUMP. 260 00:06:54,833 --> 00:06:55,366 HE ISSUED A STATEMENT THIS WEEK 261 00:06:55,466 --> 00:06:59,433 THAT HE STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE 262 00:06:59,433 --> 00:07:01,333 AVAILABILITY OF IVF FOR COUPLES 263 00:07:01,333 --> 00:07:01,933 WHO ARE TRYING TO HAVE A 264 00:07:01,933 --> 00:07:02,666 PRECIOUS BABY-- SOMETHING HE 265 00:07:02,666 --> 00:07:03,300 REFERRED TO AS "THE ULTIMATE JOY 266 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:05,633 IN LIFE," ALL CAPS, EXCLAMATION 267 00:07:05,633 --> 00:07:05,833 MARK. 268 00:07:05,833 --> 00:07:06,733 AND IT'S INCREDIBLE HOW EVEN 269 00:07:06,733 --> 00:07:07,933 OBJECTIVELY WHOLESOME SENTENCES 270 00:07:07,933 --> 00:07:10,233 TAKE ON AN AIR OF CREEPINESS 271 00:07:10,233 --> 00:07:10,866 WHEN PASSED THROUGH THE CHAOTIC 272 00:07:10,866 --> 00:07:11,500 TRUMP PUNCTUATION FILTER. 273 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:12,866 MEANWHILE, HE'S ALSO BEEN 274 00:07:12,866 --> 00:07:14,033 PRIVATELY FLOATING A FEDERAL BAN 275 00:07:14,033 --> 00:07:14,933 ON ABORTION AT THE 16-WEEK MARK, 276 00:07:14,933 --> 00:07:15,733 REPORTEDLY SAYING, "KNOW WHAT I 277 00:07:15,733 --> 00:07:21,166 LIKE ABOUT 16?" 278 00:07:21,166 --> 00:07:21,633 "IT'S EVEN. 279 00:07:21,633 --> 00:07:25,200 IT'S FOUR MONTHS." 280 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,266 AND I WILL SAY-- STARTING ANY 281 00:07:26,266 --> 00:07:27,166 SENTENCE WITH "YOU KNOW WHAT I 282 00:07:27,266 --> 00:07:28,733 LIKE ABOUT 16," SHOULD BE OFF 283 00:07:28,833 --> 00:07:29,533 LIMITS FOR ANYONE WHO HAS THIS 284 00:07:29,633 --> 00:07:30,433 MANY PHOTOS WITH JEFFREY 285 00:07:30,433 --> 00:07:31,733 EPSTEIN. 286 00:07:31,733 --> 00:07:34,266 BUT WHILE TRUMP MIGHT THINK 16 287 00:07:34,266 --> 00:07:34,866 WEEKS IS THE REASONABLE OPTION 288 00:07:34,866 --> 00:07:36,566 WHICH IT ISN'T-- 289 00:07:36,566 --> 00:07:38,000 ANTIABORTION FORCES ARE HOPING 290 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:38,633 TO USE A SECOND TRUMP TERM TO GO 291 00:07:38,633 --> 00:07:39,066 MUCH, MUCH FURTHER. 292 00:07:39,066 --> 00:07:40,700 ONE TOOL THEY'RE APPARENTLY 293 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:41,933 EAGER TO USE IS THE COMSTOCK 294 00:07:41,933 --> 00:07:43,433 ACT, AN 1873 LAW THAT 295 00:07:43,433 --> 00:07:44,666 CRIMINALIZES THE SHIPPING OF ANY 296 00:07:44,666 --> 00:07:45,933 MATERIALS USED IN AN ABORTION, 297 00:07:45,933 --> 00:07:47,633 INCLUDING ABORTION PILLS, WITH 298 00:07:47,633 --> 00:07:50,266 ONE OF TRUMP'S LAWYERS SAYING, 299 00:07:50,266 --> 00:07:51,266 "WE DON'T NEED A FEDERAL BAN 300 00:07:51,266 --> 00:07:52,033 WHEN WE HAVE COMSTOCK ON THE 301 00:07:52,033 --> 00:07:54,500 BOOKS." 302 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:55,333 IT WAS ONE OF THE KEY PRETEXTS 303 00:07:55,333 --> 00:07:56,800 IN LAST YEAR'S MIFEPRISTONE 304 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,866 RULING, AND LINDSEY GRAHAM 305 00:07:57,866 --> 00:07:59,400 ACTUALLY CITED COMSTOCK WHEN 306 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,400 DEFENDING IT. 307 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:02,866 THE IDEA OF MAILING THE 308 00:08:02,866 --> 00:08:04,233 DRUG-SENDING THE DRUG THROUGH 309 00:08:04,233 --> 00:08:06,566 THE MAIL RUNS INTO A STATUTE 310 00:08:06,566 --> 00:08:08,666 CALLED THE COMSTOCK ACT. 311 00:08:08,666 --> 00:08:11,000 IT'S A VERY OLD STATUTE ON 312 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:11,266 THE BOOKS. 313 00:08:11,266 --> 00:08:11,900 DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE SUPREME 314 00:08:11,900 --> 00:08:14,166 COURT SHOULD USE THAT AS A WAY 315 00:08:14,166 --> 00:08:18,900 TO BAN THIS ABORTION PILL? 316 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:19,500 WELL, I THINK IT'S A LAW ON 317 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:23,600 THE BOOKS. 318 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,800 John: LOOK, I GUESS IT'S NOT 319 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,400 THAT SURPRISING THAT GRAHAM'S 320 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,033 ENDORSEMENT OF A LAW BOILS DOWN 321 00:08:27,033 --> 00:08:27,633 TO "IT'S ON THE BOOKS," GIVEN 322 00:08:27,633 --> 00:08:30,333 THAT "IT'S OLD AND IT'S THERE" 323 00:08:30,333 --> 00:08:30,966 BASICALLY SUMS UP LINDSEY GRAHAM 324 00:08:30,966 --> 00:08:32,666 AT THIS POINT. 325 00:08:32,666 --> 00:08:34,333 HE SEEMS DETERMINED TO STAY IN 326 00:08:34,433 --> 00:08:34,966 THE SENATE UNTIL HE CAN COMPLETE 327 00:08:35,066 --> 00:08:35,700 HIS ANIMORPHS-STYLE 328 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:41,633 TRANSFORMATION INTO BEAKER. 329 00:08:41,633 --> 00:08:42,533 AND, HE'S GETTING CLOSE. 330 00:08:42,533 --> 00:08:43,866 HE'S ONLY A COUPLE OF STEPS 331 00:08:43,866 --> 00:08:45,366 AWAY. 332 00:08:45,366 --> 00:08:46,166 BUT HE'S RIGHT: THE COMSTOCK ACT 333 00:08:46,166 --> 00:08:47,400 IS TECHNICALLY THERE, MEANING A 334 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,033 TRUMP ADMINISTRATION-- OR THE 335 00:08:48,033 --> 00:08:50,233 JUDGES HE APPOINTS-- COULD TRY 336 00:08:50,233 --> 00:08:50,833 USING IT TO RESTRICT ABORTION 337 00:08:50,833 --> 00:08:51,833 WITHOUT GOING THROUGH CONGRESS. 338 00:08:51,833 --> 00:08:53,533 WHICH IS BOTH ALARMING, AND 339 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:55,200 SOMETHING MANY PRO-LIFE FIGURES 340 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:55,966 ARE ANXIOUS TO KEEP QUIET FOR 341 00:08:55,966 --> 00:08:57,666 NOW. 342 00:08:57,666 --> 00:08:58,466 THAT TRUMP LAWYER I MENTIONED 343 00:08:58,466 --> 00:08:59,533 EVEN SAID OF HIM, "I HOPE HE 344 00:08:59,533 --> 00:09:02,000 DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THE EXISTENCE 345 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:02,566 OF COMSTOCK, BECAUSE I JUST 346 00:09:02,566 --> 00:09:03,200 DON'T WANT HIM TO SHOOT OFF HIS 347 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,433 MOUTH." 348 00:09:05,433 --> 00:09:06,000 "I THINK THE PRO-LIFE GROUPS 349 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,500 SHOULD KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT AS 350 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,066 MUCH AS POSSIBLE UNTIL THE 351 00:09:08,066 --> 00:09:11,300 ELECTION." 352 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:13,533 BUT WHENEVER THEY DON'T WANT TO 353 00:09:13,533 --> 00:09:14,066 TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, IT'S 354 00:09:14,066 --> 00:09:14,600 PROBABLY WORTH YOU KNOWING 355 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,700 ABOUT. 356 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:17,666 SO, FOR THE RECORD, THE COMSTOCK 357 00:09:17,666 --> 00:09:18,866 ACT IS NAMED AFTER ANTHONY 358 00:09:18,866 --> 00:09:20,333 COMSTOCK, A 19TH CENTURY 359 00:09:20,333 --> 00:09:21,533 ANTI-SEX CRUSADER AND POSTAL 360 00:09:21,533 --> 00:09:23,700 INSPECTOR WHO WAS, AND I QUOTE, 361 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:26,000 "A CHRONIC MASTURBATOR WHO 362 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,533 BELIEVED IT WAS PHYSICALLY 363 00:09:26,533 --> 00:09:28,033 HARMFUL, SO LAUNCHED A CRUSADE 364 00:09:28,033 --> 00:09:29,600 TO STAMP OUT THE TRANSMISSION 365 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,500 AND TRANSPORTATION OF ALL 366 00:09:30,500 --> 00:09:33,400 OBSCENE MATERIAL." 367 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,033 AND IMAGINE JERKING OFF SO MUCH 368 00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:38,166 YOU MAKE IT A MATTER OF NATIONAL 369 00:09:38,166 --> 00:09:38,433 SECURITY. 370 00:09:38,433 --> 00:09:39,900 THE COMSTOCK ACT FORBADE SENDING 371 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:41,966 BY MAIL "EVERY OBSCENE, LEWD, 372 00:09:42,066 --> 00:09:44,333 LASCIVIOUS, INDECENT, FILTHY OR 373 00:09:44,333 --> 00:09:45,700 VILE ARTICLE, MATTER, THING, 374 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:47,733 DEVICE, OR SUBSTANCE," AS WELL 375 00:09:47,733 --> 00:09:50,000 AS "EVERY ARTICLE OR THING 376 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:50,633 DESIGNED, ADAPTED, OR INTENDED 377 00:09:50,633 --> 00:09:52,600 FOR PRODUCING ABORTION." 378 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,266 THAT'S THE CLAUSE ABORTION 379 00:09:54,266 --> 00:09:56,866 OPPONENTS HAVE USED ON 380 00:09:56,866 --> 00:09:58,866 MIFEPRISTONE, AND THEY HOPE TO 381 00:09:58,866 --> 00:09:59,833 EXPAND IT TO COVER THE SHIPPING 382 00:09:59,833 --> 00:10:01,266 OF LITERALLY ANYTHING AN 383 00:10:01,266 --> 00:10:02,766 ABORTION REQUIRES. 384 00:10:02,766 --> 00:10:03,833 SO, THE COMSTOCK ACT IS A WILD 385 00:10:03,833 --> 00:10:06,166 LAW, PUSHED FOR BY A DEEPLY 386 00:10:06,166 --> 00:10:08,966 WEIRD, DANGEROUSLY HORNY MAN, 387 00:10:08,966 --> 00:10:09,766 THAT MAY SOON BE DETERMINING ALL 388 00:10:09,766 --> 00:10:12,000 OUR REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOMS. 389 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,366 AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT 390 00:10:13,466 --> 00:10:14,600 COMSTOCK WAS ALSO A LEADER IN 391 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:15,733 "THE NEW YORK SOCIETY FOR THE 392 00:10:15,833 --> 00:10:17,966 SUPPRESSION OF VICE," WHOSE SEAL 393 00:10:17,966 --> 00:10:18,600 FUN FACT-- DEPICTED SOMEONE 394 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,300 BURNING BOOKS. 395 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:22,333 WHICH, TO BE FAIR, CONSERVATIVES 396 00:10:22,333 --> 00:10:23,500 DON'T DO ANYMORE. 397 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:24,100 AS WE ALL KNOW, THEY USE FLAME 398 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:27,233 THROWERS NOW. 399 00:10:27,233 --> 00:10:28,533 AND THAT'S THE THING THAT TIES 400 00:10:28,533 --> 00:10:30,666 EVERYTHING I'VE TALKED ABOUT 401 00:10:30,666 --> 00:10:32,366 HERE TOGETHER-- THERE ARE 402 00:10:32,366 --> 00:10:32,833 POLITICIANS CURRENTLY 403 00:10:32,833 --> 00:10:34,233 DESPERATELY TRYING TO DISTANCE 404 00:10:34,233 --> 00:10:35,366 THEMSELVES FROM EXTREME POLICIES 405 00:10:35,366 --> 00:10:39,200 THEY'VE ENABLED. 406 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,766 YOU CAN SAY "WE'RE NOT TRYING TO 407 00:10:40,766 --> 00:10:41,500 BAN OR BURN BOOKS," BUT THAT'S 408 00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:42,900 WHAT'S HAPPENING. 409 00:10:42,900 --> 00:10:44,300 YOU CAN SAY "WE JUST WANT MORE 410 00:10:44,300 --> 00:10:45,266 KIDS," BUT YOU'RE MAKING LIFE 411 00:10:45,266 --> 00:10:48,166 INCREDIBLY HARD FOR PEOPLE, 412 00:10:48,266 --> 00:10:48,800 INCLUDING THOSE WHO DESPERATELY 413 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:50,200 WANT THEM. 414 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:50,833 BURNING BOOKS AND ENDING IVF IS 415 00:10:50,833 --> 00:10:54,033 THE NATURAL ENDPOINT OF THE 416 00:10:54,033 --> 00:10:55,200 EXTREME POLICIES THEY'VE HELD 417 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,166 HANDS WITH, AND IF THEY'RE NOT 418 00:10:57,166 --> 00:10:58,933 AT LEAST WILLING TO OWN THOSE 419 00:10:58,933 --> 00:11:01,066 CONSEQUENCES, THEN THEY CAN, IN 420 00:11:01,066 --> 00:11:01,666 THE WORDS OF WHAT I BELIEVE TO 421 00:11:01,666 --> 00:11:02,200 BE THIS COUNTRY'S GREATEST 422 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,066 PUBLIC SPEAKER-- 423 00:11:03,066 --> 00:11:04,833 EAT A BUTTHOLE. 424 00:11:04,833 --> 00:11:05,700 John: WELL SAID. 425 00:11:05,700 --> 00:11:11,033 AND NOW, THIS. 426 00:11:11,033 --> 00:11:17,533 Announcer: AND NOW, MORE 427 00:11:17,533 --> 00:11:19,133 EXPLICIT READINGS FROM CONCERNED 428 00:11:19,133 --> 00:11:19,866 CITIZENS AT PUBLIC MEETINGS. 429 00:11:19,866 --> 00:11:22,400 THE BOY TALK TO SOFT TO HER 430 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:23,833 ABOUT HOW GOOD SHE LOOKED AND 431 00:11:23,833 --> 00:11:25,400 THINGS LIKE THAT, AND SHE 432 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,266 GRABBED HIS PENIS WITH HER HANDS 433 00:11:27,266 --> 00:11:28,200 AND STARTED MOVING IT. 434 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,900 IT FELT SO GOOD, SO FUCKING 435 00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:31,300 GOOD. 436 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:33,433 I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE DON'T DO 437 00:11:33,433 --> 00:11:35,800 ANYTHING BUT HAVE SEX IF THEY 438 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,566 AREN'T ADULTS OR HAVE PARENTS. 439 00:11:37,566 --> 00:11:39,166 ON TOP OF THE VALENCIA WHILE 440 00:11:39,166 --> 00:11:40,600 MAKING LOVE TO WORK, BILLY MADE 441 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,500 A NOISE LIKE A SMALL, RUSTY 442 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:47,200 HINGE PARAKEET ENTERED HIS 443 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,366 SEMINAL VESICLES INTO HER. 444 00:11:48,366 --> 00:11:49,933 I HAD SUCKED MY PAIR OF 445 00:11:49,933 --> 00:11:52,600 DICK'S, GIVEN HAND JOBS AND 446 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,566 JOBS, BLOW JOBS, BUT THE ONLY 447 00:11:54,666 --> 00:11:57,766 BOOK BUT SEX I HAD WAS THIS 448 00:11:57,766 --> 00:11:58,100 JUNIOR WHO-- 449 00:11:58,100 --> 00:12:01,166 AND I PULL AND I SUCK UNTIL 450 00:12:01,166 --> 00:12:02,500 HE GROANS AND MAKE SOUNDS, AND I 451 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:05,433 KEEP GOING AND GOING. 452 00:12:05,433 --> 00:12:08,433 AND WHEN HE SAYS "I'M GOING TO 453 00:12:08,433 --> 00:12:12,933 CUM, I DON'T PULL AWAY. 454 00:12:12,933 --> 00:12:14,533 SALLE-- 455 00:12:14,533 --> 00:12:15,100 IT TASTES LIKE THICK SWEAT. 456 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:17,733 YOU CAN PULL OUT OR FUCK HER 457 00:12:17,733 --> 00:12:18,166 TOO HARD. 458 00:12:18,166 --> 00:12:21,566 MY ONLY CHALLENGE WAS BRIAN 459 00:12:21,566 --> 00:12:22,833 WHO WAS MY JERICHO FRIEND WHO 460 00:12:22,833 --> 00:12:24,200 LIKES TO JERK ME OFF. 461 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,400 I HAVE 20 PUSSIES HERE THAT I 462 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:29,266 HAVE TWO NEAT. 463 00:12:29,266 --> 00:12:31,400 I'M ON PUSSY DEADLINE. 464 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,733 IT'S WHICH IS. 465 00:12:33,733 --> 00:12:35,033 IT'S ALL SO FUCKING COMPLICATED. 466 00:12:35,033 --> 00:12:37,233 I JUST WANT TO MENTION, I'VE 467 00:12:37,233 --> 00:12:39,033 NEVER SAID THE F-WORD EVER IN MY 468 00:12:39,033 --> 00:12:41,566 LIFE BEFORE UNTIL JUST NOW. 469 00:12:41,566 --> 00:12:43,600 [LAUGHTER] 470 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,500 PLUS TICK 471 00:12:48,766 --> 00:12:49,400 John: MOVING ON. 472 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,900 OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS 473 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:52,766 THE INTERNET. 474 00:12:52,766 --> 00:12:53,400 IT CAN BE A MAGICAL PLACE, BUT 475 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,900 ALSO ONE WHERE THINGS AREN'T 476 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:55,533 ALWAYS WHAT THEY SEEM-- AS THIS 477 00:12:55,533 --> 00:12:56,700 WOMAN LEARNED THE HARD WAY. 478 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:57,400 QUEEN SHAYDONNA HAYNESWORTH 479 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,166 THOUGHT SHE BOUGHT THIS: THE 480 00:12:58,166 --> 00:12:59,166 INSTAGRAM AD DISPLAYING A TREE 481 00:12:59,166 --> 00:13:02,333 THAT FITS IN A LIVING ROOM, NOT 482 00:13:02,433 --> 00:13:04,766 THE PALM OF HER HAND. 483 00:13:04,766 --> 00:13:05,033 YOOOOO! 484 00:13:05,033 --> 00:13:05,600 THIS IS A RAINBOW CHRISTMAS 485 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,966 TREE? 486 00:13:06,966 --> 00:13:08,633 LIKE, SERIOUSLY? 487 00:13:08,633 --> 00:13:10,400 LIKE, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 488 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:15,233 THIS? 489 00:13:15,233 --> 00:13:16,500 John: YEAH, IT MUST'VE BEEN 490 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:17,500 PRETTY DISAPPOINTING, TO ORDER A 491 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:19,100 FULL-SIZE TREE AND GET WHATEVER 492 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:20,900 THAT IS. 493 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:22,600 SHE MUST'VE FELT LIKE HBO DID 494 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,866 WHEN THEY ORDERED A COMEDY SHOW 495 00:13:23,866 --> 00:13:26,566 AND GOT THIS INSTEAD. 496 00:13:26,566 --> 00:13:29,000 UNFORTUNATELY, NOT EVERY MISTAKE 497 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,466 IS THAT BENIGN. 498 00:13:29,466 --> 00:13:30,433 IT'S NOT NEWS THAT THERE ARE 499 00:13:30,433 --> 00:13:31,466 SCAMMERS ON THE INTERNET, BUT 500 00:13:31,466 --> 00:13:32,766 YOU MAY'VE NOTICED, ONE SCAM IN 501 00:13:32,766 --> 00:13:34,166 PARTICULAR IS CURRENTLY 502 00:13:34,266 --> 00:13:35,666 EVERYWHERE. 503 00:13:35,766 --> 00:13:37,900 A COMMON WAY IT STARTS IS WITH A 504 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:38,466 WEIRD TEXT FROM A NUMBER YOU 505 00:13:38,466 --> 00:13:39,100 DON'T RECOGNIZE, LIKE, "CHERYL, 506 00:13:39,100 --> 00:13:40,500 CAN WE MOVE LUNCH TO 5:00?" 507 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:42,000 WHEN YOU'RE NOT CHERYL. 508 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:42,900 OR "DAVE, WHAT TIME IS OUR 509 00:13:42,900 --> 00:13:44,233 FLIGHT?" 510 00:13:44,233 --> 00:13:45,066 WHEN YOU'RE NOT DAVE AND YOU 511 00:13:45,066 --> 00:13:46,566 DON'T HAVE A FLIGHT BOOKED. 512 00:13:46,566 --> 00:13:47,433 EVEN AS WE WORKED ON THIS PIECE, 513 00:13:47,433 --> 00:13:49,666 MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF AND THEIR 514 00:13:49,666 --> 00:13:50,200 FRIENDS WERE GETTING THESE 515 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,266 MESSAGES, FROM "HELLO IS THIS 516 00:13:51,266 --> 00:13:52,966 THE MANAGER JESSE FROM THE 517 00:13:52,966 --> 00:13:53,833 FLOWER SHOP?" 518 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:54,600 TO THIS ONE, READING, "IS THIS 519 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,000 DR. JOHN? 520 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:56,900 I'M EMILY, IS MY HORSE 521 00:13:56,900 --> 00:14:00,066 RECOVERING WELL?" 522 00:14:00,066 --> 00:14:01,033 AND I'M GLAD THAT WASN'T SENT TO 523 00:14:01,033 --> 00:14:02,466 ME, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE 524 00:14:02,466 --> 00:14:03,900 WORKED. 525 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:06,433 YOU'RE CALLING ME DOCTOR JOHN? 526 00:14:06,433 --> 00:14:07,800 INSTANTLY ON BOARD. 527 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:08,800 AND YOU'RE ASSUMING I'M AROUND A 528 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:10,100 HORSE FOR MEDICAL REASONS? 529 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:11,166 THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN 530 00:14:11,166 --> 00:14:12,300 SAYING! 531 00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:13,033 I'M ALLOWED TO TOUCH IT LIKE 532 00:14:13,033 --> 00:14:14,633 THAT. 533 00:14:14,633 --> 00:14:16,800 I'M A DOCTOR! 534 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:17,400 AND I KNOW MOST PEOPLE IGNORE 535 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,000 MESSAGES LIKE THOSE. 536 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,600 BUT SOME WRITE BACK, GET SUCKED 537 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:22,800 INTO A CONVERSATION AND 538 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:23,900 EVENTUALLY-- THROUGH A PROCESS 539 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:26,066 WE'LL GET INTO-- CAN END UP 540 00:14:26,066 --> 00:14:26,766 LOSING A LOT OF MONEY. 541 00:14:26,766 --> 00:14:28,000 IT'S A SCAM WITH A STRIKING NAME 542 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,600 THAT NEWSCASTERS CAN'T SEEM TO 543 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,766 GET OVER. 544 00:14:31,766 --> 00:14:32,666 IT'S CALLED A PIG BUTCHERING 545 00:14:32,666 --> 00:14:33,900 SCAM. 546 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:35,133 AND IT MIGHT SOUND LIKE A 547 00:14:35,133 --> 00:14:36,333 GRUESOME NAME, BUT THAT'S 548 00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:38,000 BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY 549 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,233 VICTIMS ARE LOSING IS PAINFUL. 550 00:14:40,333 --> 00:14:42,300 THE SCAMMERS HAVE A TERRIBLE 551 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:42,833 TERM FOR WHAT WENDY WENT 552 00:14:42,833 --> 00:14:43,833 THROUGH. 553 00:14:43,833 --> 00:14:46,066 THEY CALL IT PIG BUTCHERING. 554 00:14:46,066 --> 00:14:46,833 THE NEW MEXICO SECURITIES 555 00:14:46,833 --> 00:14:47,566 DIVISION CALLS THEM "PIG 556 00:14:47,566 --> 00:14:49,800 BUTCHERING SCAMS." 557 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,200 I KNOW, BUT LISTEN, DON'T WORRY, 558 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,400 THERE ARE NO PIGS OR ANY OTHER 559 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,700 ANIMALS INVOLVED. 560 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:56,766 John: YES, DON'T WORRY, THERE 561 00:14:56,766 --> 00:14:58,066 ARE NO PIGS HARMED IN "THIS" PIG 562 00:14:58,066 --> 00:14:58,433 BUTCHERING SCAM. 563 00:14:58,433 --> 00:14:59,366 ALTHOUGH, IF THE WORDS DO MAKE 564 00:14:59,366 --> 00:15:00,933 YOU SQUEAMISH, IT'S WORTH NOTING 565 00:15:00,933 --> 00:15:01,500 THAT THAT THERE IS A PROCESS 566 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:02,566 THROUGH WHICH PIGS ARE HARMED 567 00:15:02,566 --> 00:15:03,766 EVERY DAY. 568 00:15:03,766 --> 00:15:06,333 IT'S ACTUALLY HOW WE GET BACON, 569 00:15:06,333 --> 00:15:06,833 PORK AND OTHER PRODUCTS. 570 00:15:06,833 --> 00:15:08,266 IT'S CALLED PIG BUTCHERING, AND 571 00:15:08,266 --> 00:15:08,833 IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS 572 00:15:08,833 --> 00:15:10,100 LIKE. 573 00:15:10,100 --> 00:15:11,266 BUT THE NAME MAKES A LITTLE MORE 574 00:15:11,266 --> 00:15:12,800 SENSE, ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW 575 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,700 THE SCAM ACTUALLY WORKS. 576 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,966 IN THE WORLD OF CYBER AND 577 00:15:16,966 --> 00:15:18,566 COUNTERTERRORISM THREATS. 578 00:15:18,566 --> 00:15:19,200 SPECIAL AGENT HASSANI HAS SEEN 579 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,766 IT ALL. 580 00:15:21,766 --> 00:15:23,366 BUT IN 2021, HE BEGAN SEEING A 581 00:15:23,366 --> 00:15:26,600 NEW SCAM: PIG BUTCHERING. 582 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,466 BUT IT JUST REFERS TO RAISING 583 00:15:28,466 --> 00:15:29,566 LITTLE PIGLETS, FATTENING THEM 584 00:15:29,566 --> 00:15:32,666 UP, AND BUTCHERING THEM. 585 00:15:32,666 --> 00:15:35,000 AND THEY'RE FATTENING UP THEIR 586 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,266 VICTIM WITH ILLUSIONS OF 587 00:15:36,266 --> 00:15:38,400 GRANDEUR, OF WEALTH, OF LOVE, 588 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,266 BEFORE BLEEDING THEM DRY. 589 00:15:41,266 --> 00:15:42,666 John: THAT'S ROUGH. 590 00:15:42,666 --> 00:15:43,533 BECAUSE IMAGINE BEING A VICTIM 591 00:15:43,533 --> 00:15:45,266 OF THIS SCAM, TURNING ON THE 592 00:15:45,266 --> 00:15:46,566 NEWS AND SUDDENLY LEARNING THE 593 00:15:46,666 --> 00:15:50,066 SHORTHAND FOR PEOPLE IN YOUR 594 00:15:50,066 --> 00:15:50,566 SITUATION IS "THE PIGS." 595 00:15:50,566 --> 00:15:51,200 ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY-- IT COULD 596 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,500 BE WORSE. 597 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:53,766 PIGS ARE AWESOME! 598 00:15:53,766 --> 00:15:55,200 THEY'RE ONE OF THE MOST 599 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:55,900 INTELLIGENT ANIMALS ON THE 600 00:15:55,900 --> 00:15:57,366 PLANET. 601 00:15:57,366 --> 00:15:58,633 THEY'RE SMARTER THAN DOGS, MOST 602 00:15:58,633 --> 00:16:00,233 3-YEAR-OLDS, AND TOM SANDOVAL. 603 00:16:00,233 --> 00:16:01,166 TO USE A PHRASE THE POLICE NEVER 604 00:16:01,166 --> 00:16:02,600 SEEM TO APPRECIATE: IT'S 605 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,100 ACTUALLY AN HONOR TO BE COMPARED 606 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:04,966 TO A PIG! 607 00:16:04,966 --> 00:16:06,966 AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, "THIS 608 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:07,533 SEEMS LIKE THE KIND OF SCAM 609 00:16:07,533 --> 00:16:09,333 THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES." 610 00:16:09,333 --> 00:16:10,533 THAT'S PARTIALLY TRUE, BUT THE 611 00:16:10,533 --> 00:16:12,033 WAY THIS ONE WORKS IS FAIRLY 612 00:16:12,033 --> 00:16:13,466 NEW. 613 00:16:13,466 --> 00:16:14,400 AND IN THE SHORT TIME IT'S BEEN 614 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,866 AROUND, IT'S BEEN MASSIVELY 615 00:16:15,866 --> 00:16:17,166 SUCCESSFUL. 616 00:16:17,166 --> 00:16:18,500 JUST THIS MONTH, IT WAS AT THE 617 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:19,366 CENTER OF A HUGE LOCAL NEWS 618 00:16:19,366 --> 00:16:22,100 STORY IN KANSAS, WHERE IT 619 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:22,633 BROUGHT DOWN A FINANCIAL 620 00:16:22,633 --> 00:16:23,366 INSTITUTION. 621 00:16:23,366 --> 00:16:24,766 I WAS SURPRISED. 622 00:16:24,766 --> 00:16:25,966 I WAS SHOCKED. 623 00:16:25,966 --> 00:16:26,833 I WAS DISAPPOINTED. 624 00:16:26,833 --> 00:16:29,000 KANSAS STATE BANK 625 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:29,600 COMMISSIONER DAVID HERNDON IS 626 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,933 TALKING ABOUT THE MASSIVE 627 00:16:30,933 --> 00:16:32,666 CRYPTOCURRENCY SCAM AT THE 628 00:16:32,666 --> 00:16:35,033 HEARTLAND TRI-STATE BANK IN 629 00:16:35,033 --> 00:16:35,266 ELKHART. 630 00:16:35,266 --> 00:16:38,133 IN A CRYPTOCURRENCY SCHEME 631 00:16:38,133 --> 00:16:40,766 THAT THE FBI HAS NOW REFERRED TO 632 00:16:40,766 --> 00:16:42,033 AS PIG BUTCHERING. 633 00:16:42,033 --> 00:16:44,566 IN THIS CASE, HERNDON SAYS, 634 00:16:44,566 --> 00:16:46,366 THE VICTIM WAS SHAN HANES, THE 635 00:16:46,366 --> 00:16:48,633 BANK'S OWN CEO. 636 00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:50,333 AND HE'S NOW FACING CHARGES OF 637 00:16:50,333 --> 00:16:53,500 EMBEZZLING NEARLY $50 MILLION, A 638 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:55,466 LOSS THAT CAUSED THE BANK TO 639 00:16:55,566 --> 00:16:58,933 FAIL LAST AUGUST. 640 00:16:58,933 --> 00:17:00,466 John: IT'S TRUE. 641 00:17:00,466 --> 00:17:01,100 ACCORDING TO PROSECUTORS, A BANK 642 00:17:01,100 --> 00:17:02,300 CEO GOT PIG-BUTCHERED, SENT HIS 643 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:02,933 SCAMMER THE BANK'S HOLDINGS, AND 644 00:17:02,933 --> 00:17:04,333 THE BANK WENT UNDER. 645 00:17:04,333 --> 00:17:05,266 WHICH IS ALARMING FOR SEVERAL 646 00:17:05,266 --> 00:17:10,333 REASONS, AMONG THEM-- IS THAT 647 00:17:10,333 --> 00:17:11,600 HOW BANKS WORK? 648 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,400 BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE THERE 649 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,200 SHOULD BE AT LEAST ONE STEP 650 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,400 BETWEEN "CEO GETS TRICKED" AND 651 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,566 "WHOOPS, THE BANK'S EMPTY." 652 00:17:17,566 --> 00:17:19,333 IT'S ESTIMATED THAT, AS OF 2022, 653 00:17:19,333 --> 00:17:20,266 THIS SCAM WAS TAKING PEOPLE FOR 654 00:17:20,266 --> 00:17:22,400 MORE THAN $3 BILLION A YEAR IN 655 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,433 THE US ALONE. 656 00:17:24,433 --> 00:17:25,400 AND THAT'S ALMOST CERTAINLY A 657 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,200 MASSIVE UNDERCOUNT, AS IT ONLY 658 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:28,166 INCLUDES PEOPLE WHO REPORTED 659 00:17:28,266 --> 00:17:31,033 THEIR LOSSES TO THE FBI. 660 00:17:31,033 --> 00:17:32,866 SO GIVEN ALL THAT, TONIGHT, 661 00:17:32,866 --> 00:17:34,800 LET'S TALK ABOUT PIG BUTCHERING: 662 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,033 WHY IT'S EASIER TO FALL FOR THAN 663 00:17:36,033 --> 00:17:36,633 YOU MIGHT THINK, WHO'S BEHIND 664 00:17:36,633 --> 00:17:38,900 IT, AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO 665 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:41,066 PROTECT OURSELVES AND OUR LIKED 666 00:17:41,066 --> 00:17:41,700 ONES FROM GETTING SCAMMED IN THE 667 00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:43,300 FUTURE. 668 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:44,800 AND LET'S START WITH WHERE THIS 669 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:45,433 BEGAN. 670 00:17:45,433 --> 00:17:46,466 AND TO DO THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, 671 00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:48,033 WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE PLACE 672 00:17:48,033 --> 00:17:50,200 NO ONE WANTS TO GO: THE 673 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:50,633 BEGINNING OF COVID. 674 00:17:50,633 --> 00:17:52,800 YOU REMEMBER COVID. 675 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:53,333 IT'S THE STEPHEN MILLER OF 676 00:17:53,333 --> 00:17:54,700 DISEASES, IN THAT WE WERE ALL 677 00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:55,766 WORRIED ABOUT IT A FEW YEARS AGO 678 00:17:55,766 --> 00:17:57,500 AND HAVE SINCE MOVED ON, EVEN 679 00:17:57,500 --> 00:17:59,766 THOUGH IT IS STILL VERY 680 00:17:59,766 --> 00:18:02,066 DANGEROUS. 681 00:18:02,166 --> 00:18:02,666 BUT THAT'S WHEN PIG BUTCHERING 682 00:18:02,766 --> 00:18:04,333 TOOK OFF. 683 00:18:04,333 --> 00:18:04,900 BASICALLY, AT THE START OF 684 00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:05,633 COVID, MANY OF US WERE ISOLATED 685 00:18:05,633 --> 00:18:07,100 AND LONELY, DESPERATELY LOOKING 686 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:08,766 FOR HUMAN CONTACT ONLINE-- 687 00:18:08,766 --> 00:18:10,400 WHICH MADE US RIPE TARGETS. 688 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,000 AT THE SAME TIME, ORGANIZED 689 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,333 CRIME GROUPS IN CHINA, RUNNING 690 00:18:14,333 --> 00:18:15,733 CASINOS IN SOUTHEAST ASIA, WERE 691 00:18:15,733 --> 00:18:17,366 IN CRISIS, AS-- THANKS TO THE 692 00:18:17,366 --> 00:18:19,000 PANDEMIC-- GAMBLERS WEREN'T 693 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,000 SHOWING UP. 694 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:22,600 SO, THEY TURNED THOSE CASINOS 695 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,666 INTO BASES FOR ONLINE SCAM 696 00:18:24,666 --> 00:18:26,133 OPERATIONS. 697 00:18:26,133 --> 00:18:26,733 AND FROM THERE, THEIR WORKERS 698 00:18:26,733 --> 00:18:28,166 IDENTIFIED PEOPLE AND PREYED ON 699 00:18:28,166 --> 00:18:30,566 THEIR VULNERABILITIES. 700 00:18:30,566 --> 00:18:31,366 AND LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH THE 701 00:18:31,366 --> 00:18:32,533 STEPS. 702 00:18:32,533 --> 00:18:33,133 THE FIRST IS TO MAKE CONTACT, 703 00:18:33,133 --> 00:18:35,000 AND LURE YOUR TARGET IN. 704 00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:37,433 LISTEN TO THIS WOMAN EXPLAIN HOW 705 00:18:37,433 --> 00:18:38,066 HER SCAMMER, WHO CALLED HIMSELF 706 00:18:38,066 --> 00:18:39,533 "JIMMY," CONTACTED HER AT A 707 00:18:39,533 --> 00:18:40,833 MOMENT WHEN SHE WAS DEALING WITH 708 00:18:40,833 --> 00:18:42,200 CANCER, THE PANDEMIC, AND THE 709 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,500 END OF HER MARRIAGE. 710 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:45,633 FIRST MESSAGE, IT CAME AS A 711 00:18:45,633 --> 00:18:52,700 VERY INNOCENT MESSAGE. 712 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:57,233 IS! 713 00:19:01,466 --> 00:19:04,366 I SAID, "WRONG NUMBER." 714 00:19:04,366 --> 00:19:06,833 HE CAME BACK, "YOU LOOK CHINESE. 715 00:19:06,933 --> 00:19:08,533 ARE YOU CHINESE?" 716 00:19:08,633 --> 00:19:10,166 AND I SAID YES. 717 00:19:10,166 --> 00:19:11,166 HE HAD MOVED HERE JUST BEFORE 718 00:19:11,166 --> 00:19:12,166 COVID, AND THEN COVID HIT, AND 719 00:19:12,166 --> 00:19:15,633 SO HE'S NOT ABLE TO GO HOME. 720 00:19:15,633 --> 00:19:20,333 HE WAS A LONELY MAN IN NEED OF 721 00:19:20,333 --> 00:19:27,400 COMFORT. 722 00:19:27,666 --> 00:19:29,833 JIMMY WOULD MESSAGE ME EVERY 723 00:19:29,833 --> 00:19:30,000 DAY. 724 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:30,600 I DO REMEMBER RECEIVING THESE 725 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:36,733 EMOJIS WITH HEARTS. 726 00:19:36,733 --> 00:19:38,633 ♪ ♪ 727 00:19:38,633 --> 00:19:40,966 [HEART BEATING] 728 00:19:41,066 --> 00:19:41,566 IT'S QUITE FLATTERING FOR A 729 00:19:41,566 --> 00:19:42,566 MIDDLE-AGED WOMAN TO MEET A 730 00:19:42,666 --> 00:19:44,466 YOUNG MAN WHO FINDS YOU 731 00:19:44,466 --> 00:19:45,733 ATTRACTIVE. 732 00:19:45,733 --> 00:19:46,666 John: YEAH, OF COURSE THAT'S 733 00:19:46,666 --> 00:19:48,033 FLATTERING. 734 00:19:48,033 --> 00:19:50,000 BECAUSE SCAMMERS ARE TELLING 735 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,633 THEIR TARGETS WHAT THEY WANT TO 736 00:19:50,633 --> 00:19:51,366 HEAR MOST IN THAT MOMENT. 737 00:19:51,366 --> 00:19:52,366 WE MIGHT NOT "ALL" FALL FOR A 738 00:19:52,366 --> 00:19:53,900 GIF OF A HEART-PUMPING EMOJI, 739 00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:55,500 BUT IF SOMEONE SENT "ME" "NERD 740 00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:56,666 WITH GLASSES" PLUS "FOOTBALL" 741 00:19:56,666 --> 00:19:57,666 PLUS "LEARNING" PLUS "SAD 742 00:19:57,666 --> 00:19:59,233 STATISTICS" = "FIRE EMOJI," ME 743 00:19:59,233 --> 00:20:02,233 PERSONALLY? 744 00:20:02,233 --> 00:20:05,866 WHY, I WOULD NUT! 745 00:20:05,866 --> 00:20:07,133 AND LOOK: ONE WAY OF MAKING 746 00:20:07,133 --> 00:20:09,300 CONTACT IS THROUGH THOSE "WRONG 747 00:20:09,300 --> 00:20:10,333 NUMBER" TEXTS. 748 00:20:10,333 --> 00:20:11,233 BUT EXPERTS WE'VE TALKED TO 749 00:20:11,233 --> 00:20:12,733 ESTIMATE THEY ONLY MAKE UP ABOUT 750 00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:14,766 A QUARTER OF THE INITIAL 751 00:20:14,866 --> 00:20:17,333 CONTACTS FOR THIS SCAM. 752 00:20:17,333 --> 00:20:18,266 THE REST CAN COME THROUGH SITES 753 00:20:18,266 --> 00:20:21,533 LIKE LINKEDIN, DATING APPS, 754 00:20:21,533 --> 00:20:22,833 INSTAGRAM OR FACEBOOK-- PLACES 755 00:20:22,833 --> 00:20:24,600 SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR YOU TO 756 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,266 MEET PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW, 757 00:20:26,266 --> 00:20:27,733 EITHER FOR LOVE, A HOOK UP OR, 758 00:20:27,733 --> 00:20:29,500 IN THE CASE OF LINKEDIN, TO FIND 759 00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:32,600 OUT WHAT KIND OF PERSON IS 760 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,166 "STILL" ON FUCKING LINKEDIN. 761 00:20:33,166 --> 00:20:34,033 AND SCAMMERS OFTEN RESEARCH 762 00:20:34,033 --> 00:20:35,433 THEIR TARGET USING SOCIAL MEDIA 763 00:20:35,433 --> 00:20:36,600 WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF 764 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,300 INFORMATION ON PEOPLE-- SO THEY 765 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:39,066 CAN PRETEND TO HAVE SOMETHING IN 766 00:20:39,066 --> 00:20:40,766 COMMON. 767 00:20:40,766 --> 00:20:41,400 TAKE THIS WOMAN, WHO MET SOMEONE 768 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,566 ON A DATING APP, ONLY TO 769 00:20:42,566 --> 00:20:44,000 DISCOVER THEY SHARED AN 770 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,633 UNEXPECTED CONNECTION. 771 00:20:45,633 --> 00:20:47,400 HE STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS 772 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:48,866 ABOUT MY FAMILY AND MY PAST 773 00:20:48,966 --> 00:20:50,300 EXPERIENCES. 774 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:51,066 IT WAS A CONNECTION THAT FELT 775 00:20:51,066 --> 00:20:53,400 EVEN STRONGER, SHE SAYS, WHEN HE 776 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,000 TOLD HER HE CAME FROM THE SAME 777 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,366 TOWN IN CHINA FROM WHERE 778 00:20:55,366 --> 00:20:57,300 HUTCHINSON WAS ADOPTED. 779 00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:59,200 WE KIND OF BONDED OVER THAT. 780 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,766 John: YEAH, I BET THEY DID! 781 00:21:00,766 --> 00:21:02,466 AND I'VE GOT TO SAY, IT SAYS 782 00:21:02,466 --> 00:21:03,066 SOMETHING ABOUT MEN ON DATING 783 00:21:03,066 --> 00:21:03,766 APPS THAT THEY CONNECTED SO 784 00:21:03,766 --> 00:21:05,533 WELL, SIMPLY BECAUSE HE DID 785 00:21:05,533 --> 00:21:06,833 THINGS LIKE "ASK HER QUESTIONS 786 00:21:06,833 --> 00:21:08,100 ABOUT HERSELF" AND "LISTEN TO 787 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,066 HER RESPONSES." 788 00:21:10,066 --> 00:21:10,966 I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE BAR FOR 789 00:21:10,966 --> 00:21:12,533 MEN IS LOW, BUT THAT STORY 790 00:21:12,533 --> 00:21:14,000 STARTED WITH HIM ASKING HER 791 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,433 QUESTIONS ABOUT HER LIFE AND 792 00:21:15,433 --> 00:21:16,933 ENDS WITH HER "GIVING HIM ALL OF 793 00:21:16,933 --> 00:21:18,600 HER MONEY." 794 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,833 BUT REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY 795 00:21:19,833 --> 00:21:22,533 START, SOONER OR LATER, WE MOVE 796 00:21:22,633 --> 00:21:23,133 ON TO STEP TWO: TURNING THE 797 00:21:23,133 --> 00:21:25,066 CONVERSATION TOWARD MONEY. 798 00:21:25,066 --> 00:21:26,000 BUT EVEN THEN, THERE'S A SMART 799 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,133 TWIST. 800 00:21:28,133 --> 00:21:29,400 BECAUSE YOU WON'T BE SUDDENLY 801 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,100 ASKED TO WIRE MONEY TO A 802 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:33,433 NIGERIAN PRINCE WITH AN 803 00:21:33,433 --> 00:21:36,733 OBVIOUSLY FAKE EMAIL LIKE "REAL 804 00:21:36,733 --> 00:21:38,533 PRINCE SPELLED WITH A ONE 805 00:21:38,533 --> 00:21:39,100 INSTEAD OF AN I AT SCUM DOT 806 00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:41,000 FARTS." 807 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,966 WITH PIG BUTCHERING, THERE'S NO 808 00:21:41,966 --> 00:21:43,766 DIRECT ASK FOR MONEY AT ALL. 809 00:21:43,766 --> 00:21:45,100 INSTEAD, AN OPPORTUNITY GETS 810 00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:47,000 PRESENTED. 811 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,600 WATCH AS THIS MAN EXPLAINS THE 812 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,566 MOMENT WHEN A GUY HE MET ON A 813 00:21:49,566 --> 00:21:50,200 DATING SITE STARTED TO REEL HIM 814 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,233 IN. 815 00:21:51,233 --> 00:21:52,066 HE SPENT AT LEAST A MONTH 816 00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:53,300 DAILY TALKING TO ME AND 817 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:53,866 CULTIVATING MY FRIENDSHIP. 818 00:21:53,866 --> 00:21:55,566 INITIALLY, THE ONLY TALK 819 00:21:55,666 --> 00:21:57,800 ABOUT MONEY WAS HOW MUCH HIS NEW 820 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,200 ONLINE FRIEND HAD MADE IN 821 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,333 CRYPTO. 822 00:22:01,333 --> 00:22:02,633 AFTER ALL, SCOTT THOUGHT HE KNEW 823 00:22:02,633 --> 00:22:03,600 HOW TO PROTECT HIMSELF FROM 824 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,066 SCAMS. 825 00:22:05,066 --> 00:22:07,000 YOU CAN INVEST WITH ME AND 826 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,833 I'LL MAKE YOU ALL THIS MONEY AND 827 00:22:11,833 --> 00:22:14,533 I WAS LIKE "I'M NOT GIVING YOU 828 00:22:14,533 --> 00:22:17,600 MONEY, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING." 829 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,333 SO THAT'S WHEN HE STARTED, "NO, 830 00:22:18,333 --> 00:22:20,566 YOU DON'T GIVE IT TO ME. 831 00:22:20,566 --> 00:22:22,100 YOU ESTABLISH YOUR OWN ACCOUNT 832 00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:23,566 AND I'LL GUIDE YOU." 833 00:22:23,566 --> 00:22:25,233 John: RIGHT. 834 00:22:25,233 --> 00:22:25,866 THAT'S THE CLEVER HOOK HERE-- 835 00:22:25,866 --> 00:22:26,466 YOU'RE NOT SENDING THE SCAMMER 836 00:22:26,466 --> 00:22:27,266 MONEY. 837 00:22:27,266 --> 00:22:28,466 THEY'RE HELPING YOU SET UP AND 838 00:22:28,566 --> 00:22:29,600 CONTROL YOUR OWN ACCOUNT. 839 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,500 AND EVERYTHING SEEMS MORE 840 00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:32,733 LEGITIMATE WHEN THERE'S AN APP 841 00:22:32,733 --> 00:22:33,766 INVOLVED. 842 00:22:33,766 --> 00:22:34,700 YOU DON'T THINK SO? 843 00:22:34,700 --> 00:22:35,566 WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU TOOK AN 844 00:22:35,566 --> 00:22:36,933 UBER? 845 00:22:36,933 --> 00:22:38,133 GET IN A NONDESCRIPT CAR WITH 846 00:22:38,133 --> 00:22:38,633 SOMEONE I'VE NEVER MET? 847 00:22:38,633 --> 00:22:39,233 I'D NEVER DO THAT! 848 00:22:39,233 --> 00:22:40,566 BUT WAIT-- WHAT'S THIS? 849 00:22:40,566 --> 00:22:41,666 I CAN DO IT FROM MY PHONE? 850 00:22:41,666 --> 00:22:42,600 IN THAT CASE, HERE IS MY 851 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,833 ADDRESS, NOW YOU KNOW WHERE I 852 00:22:43,833 --> 00:22:44,433 LIVE AND THAT I WON'T BE HOME 853 00:22:44,433 --> 00:22:45,633 FOR THE EVENING. 854 00:22:45,633 --> 00:22:46,566 MY NAME IS JOHN, I DON'T KNOW 855 00:22:46,566 --> 00:22:47,666 YOUR LAST NAME BUT THAT DOESN'T 856 00:22:47,666 --> 00:22:49,033 MATTER, BECAUSE I'M ALSO NOT 857 00:22:49,033 --> 00:22:50,633 COMMITTING YOUR FACE TO MEMORY. 858 00:22:50,633 --> 00:22:51,233 EVERYTHING'S SAFE, THERE'S AN 859 00:22:51,233 --> 00:22:53,066 APP INVOLVED. 860 00:22:53,066 --> 00:22:53,666 AND THE FACT THE INVESTMENT IS 861 00:22:53,666 --> 00:22:55,000 OFTEN IN CRYPTO CAN BE 862 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,166 PERSUASIVE FOR MULTIPLE REASONS: 863 00:22:57,166 --> 00:22:57,733 FIRST, WHO REALLY KNOWS HOW 864 00:22:57,733 --> 00:22:58,966 CRYPTO WORKS? 865 00:22:58,966 --> 00:22:59,500 I KNOW YOUR FRIEND'S WEIRD 866 00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:02,033 HUSBAND CLAIMS HE DOES, BUT HE 867 00:23:02,133 --> 00:23:02,666 SUCKS TO TALK TO, SO SADLY, IT 868 00:23:02,666 --> 00:23:03,933 MUST REMAIN A MYSTERY. 869 00:23:03,933 --> 00:23:05,666 BUT PEOPLE HAVE MADE MONEY ON 870 00:23:05,666 --> 00:23:07,200 CRYPTO, SO IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE 871 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,166 TO THINK YOU MIGHT MEET ONE OF 872 00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:10,400 THEM AND THEY COULD GIVE YOU 873 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,266 SOME TIPS. 874 00:23:11,266 --> 00:23:12,500 ON TOP OF WHICH, YOU MAY NOT BE 875 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:14,233 SUPER-FAMILIAR WITH HOW A 876 00:23:14,233 --> 00:23:15,933 TRADING PLATFORM OPERATES OR 877 00:23:15,933 --> 00:23:18,000 EVEN WHAT ONE LOOKS LIKE. 878 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,000 AND SCAMMERS HAVE CREATED 879 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,466 INCREDIBLY PLAUSIBLE-LOOKING 880 00:23:22,466 --> 00:23:25,566 APPS. 881 00:23:25,566 --> 00:23:26,133 WE GOT THIS FOOTAGE OF ONE, 882 00:23:26,133 --> 00:23:27,400 WHICH SEEMS TO HAVE ALL THE 883 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,466 DETAIL AND FUNCTIONALITY OF A 884 00:23:28,466 --> 00:23:29,633 REAL APP, AND I'LL BE HONEST, I 885 00:23:29,633 --> 00:23:31,133 COULD BE FOOLED BY THAT. 886 00:23:31,133 --> 00:23:32,633 ALSO, SOME SCAMMERS USE 887 00:23:32,633 --> 00:23:34,033 LEGITIMATE APPS THAT ALLOW 888 00:23:34,133 --> 00:23:35,466 ANYONE TO BUILD A TRADING 889 00:23:35,566 --> 00:23:36,933 EXCHANGE. 890 00:23:36,933 --> 00:23:37,566 THE PROBLEM IS, THERE ARE TOOLS 891 00:23:37,566 --> 00:23:38,733 SCAMMERS CAN USE TO SIMULATE 892 00:23:38,733 --> 00:23:40,133 FAKE RESULTS ON THOSE APPS, 893 00:23:40,133 --> 00:23:41,266 WHILE TAKING YOUR MONEY. 894 00:23:41,266 --> 00:23:42,833 WATCH THIS JOURNALIST EXPLAIN 895 00:23:42,833 --> 00:23:45,066 HOW THIS GAVE ONE VICTIM FALSE 896 00:23:45,066 --> 00:23:46,166 CONFIDENCE. 897 00:23:46,166 --> 00:23:46,800 IN METATRADER, IT LOOKS JUST 898 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,466 LIKE ANY KIND OF NORMAL TRADING 899 00:23:48,466 --> 00:23:52,033 INTERFACE THAT ONE WOULD USE. 900 00:23:52,033 --> 00:23:52,633 IT'S AVAILABLE IN THE GOOGLE 901 00:23:52,633 --> 00:23:53,900 PLAY STORE. 902 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:54,700 IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE APPLE APP 903 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:56,633 STORE. 904 00:23:56,633 --> 00:23:57,233 IT'S AN APP THAT HAS A LOT OF 905 00:23:57,233 --> 00:23:58,800 GOOD RATINGS, AND THAT WAS ONE 906 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,000 OF THE THINGS THAT MADE CY THINK 907 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,333 THAT THIS WHOLE OPERATION WAS 908 00:24:02,333 --> 00:24:02,633 LEGITIMATE. 909 00:24:02,633 --> 00:24:04,666 HE BELIEVED THAT HIS INVESTMENT 910 00:24:04,666 --> 00:24:06,233 WAS MAKING MONEY. 911 00:24:06,233 --> 00:24:07,000 IF YOU'RE TRADING ON A 912 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,966 LEGITIMATE TRADING INTERFACE, 913 00:24:09,066 --> 00:24:10,100 RIGHT, YOU SEE THE PROFITS AND 914 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:11,900 LOSSES OVER TIME. 915 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:14,500 AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAW. 916 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:14,866 John: RIGHT. 917 00:24:14,866 --> 00:24:17,166 IF YOUR FRIEND TOLD YOU TO 918 00:24:17,166 --> 00:24:17,800 DOWNLOAD AN APP, AND YOU SAW IT 919 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,766 IN THE APP STORE WITH GOOD 920 00:24:18,766 --> 00:24:20,766 REVIEWS, YOU MIGHT ASSUME 921 00:24:20,766 --> 00:24:22,366 EVERYTHING ON IT WAS LEGITIMATE, 922 00:24:22,366 --> 00:24:23,033 EVEN BEFORE YOU SAW METATRADER'S 923 00:24:23,033 --> 00:24:24,700 LOGO, WHICH LOOKS LIKE THREE MEN 924 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:26,533 IN SUITS JERKING EACH OTHER OFF 925 00:24:26,533 --> 00:24:27,300 UNDER A TABLE. 926 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:28,666 AN APPROPRIATE METAPHOR FOR 927 00:24:28,666 --> 00:24:31,133 CRYPTOCURRENCY IF I'VE EVER SEEN 928 00:24:31,133 --> 00:24:33,300 ONE. 929 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:34,133 SOME SCAMMERS EVEN SET UP 930 00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:35,000 ADDITIONAL FEATURES LIKE 931 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,300 TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION OR 932 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,633 CUSTOMER-SERVICE LINES. 933 00:24:39,633 --> 00:24:41,500 THIS WOMAN TRIED HER BEST TO DO 934 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,166 DUE DILIGENCE ON THE SITE SHE 935 00:24:43,166 --> 00:24:43,666 WAS SENT, AND CAME AWAY 936 00:24:43,666 --> 00:24:45,133 CONVINCED IT WAS REAL. 937 00:24:45,133 --> 00:24:45,733 THERE WAS A LEGAL SECRETARY 938 00:24:45,733 --> 00:24:48,000 INVOLVED IN ANOTHER STATE, 939 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,766 VOUCHING ASSOCIATION WITH A LAW 940 00:24:49,766 --> 00:24:51,133 FIRM WHERE IT WAS SENDING MONEY 941 00:24:51,133 --> 00:24:52,133 TO. 942 00:24:52,133 --> 00:24:53,400 SHE'S REAL. 943 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,000 I COULD VERIFY HER, SO IT WAS 944 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,133 VERY COMPLEX AND WELL-REHEARSED. 945 00:24:58,133 --> 00:24:58,966 John: RIGHT. 946 00:24:58,966 --> 00:25:00,666 SHE SPOKE WITH A LEGAL SECRETARY 947 00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:01,766 AND A LAW FIRM BEFORE SENDING 948 00:25:01,766 --> 00:25:02,733 MONEY. 949 00:25:02,733 --> 00:25:05,166 AND THAT'S MORE VETTING THAN 950 00:25:05,166 --> 00:25:05,800 I'VE DONE FOR MY KIDS' DAYCARE. 951 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,900 I LOVE THEM, AND THEY'RE VERY 952 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:08,133 PRECIOUS TO ME, BUT THEY'RE ALSO 953 00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:09,500 LOUD, STICKY, AND ONE OF THEM'S 954 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:10,466 JUST GETTING STRONGER AND 955 00:25:10,466 --> 00:25:12,066 STRONGER EVERY DAY, SO IF YOU 956 00:25:12,066 --> 00:25:13,866 HAVE A BUILDING WITH WALLS AND A 957 00:25:13,866 --> 00:25:14,966 PHONE NUMBER I CAN CALL, I TRUST 958 00:25:15,066 --> 00:25:18,533 YOU, TAKE THEM FOR THE 959 00:25:18,533 --> 00:25:18,800 AFTERNOON. 960 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,300 AND AT THIS POINT OF THE 961 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:21,266 PROCESS, THINGS MIGHT LOOK 962 00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:22,233 PRETTY GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE 963 00:25:22,233 --> 00:25:23,000 GETTING SCAMMED. 964 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,933 YOU'VE SENT A BIT OF MONEY TO A 965 00:25:23,933 --> 00:25:26,033 LEGITIMATE-LOOKING SITE, THROUGH 966 00:25:26,033 --> 00:25:26,766 AN ACCOUNT YOU CONTROL. 967 00:25:26,766 --> 00:25:27,666 AND YOUR NEW FRIEND'S TRADING 968 00:25:27,666 --> 00:25:29,533 TIPS SEEM TO BE WORKING, SO 969 00:25:29,533 --> 00:25:31,933 MAYBE YOU SEND A LITTLE MORE. 970 00:25:31,933 --> 00:25:32,533 PRETTY SOON, YOU MIGHT HAVE A 971 00:25:32,533 --> 00:25:34,300 FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY TIED UP ON 972 00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:35,500 THIS TRADING PLATFORM. 973 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:37,300 BUT WHEN YOU EVENTUALLY GO TO 974 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:38,333 WITHDRAW IT, THAT'S WHERE WE HIT 975 00:25:38,333 --> 00:25:41,133 THE FINAL STEP OF THIS PROCESS. 976 00:25:41,133 --> 00:25:41,700 REMEMBER THAT WOMAN YOU SAW 977 00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:45,200 EARLIER, WHOSE ONLINE FRIEND 978 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,800 CLAIMED HE WAS FROM THE TOWN 979 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,433 WHERE SHE WAS BORN? 980 00:25:47,533 --> 00:25:49,333 WELL, SHE'D CONVINCED HER DAD TO 981 00:25:49,433 --> 00:25:49,733 INVEST AS WELL. 982 00:25:49,733 --> 00:25:50,400 THEY'D SEEMINGLY MADE A BUNCH OF 983 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,333 MONEY, AND THEN THIS HAPPENED. 984 00:25:52,333 --> 00:25:53,633 BY DECEMBER, THEIR ACCOUNTS 985 00:25:53,633 --> 00:25:55,166 SHOWED A COMBINED BALANCE OF 986 00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:58,966 $1.2 MILLION, AND HUTCHINSON 987 00:25:58,966 --> 00:26:00,966 DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO CASH OUT. 988 00:26:00,966 --> 00:26:02,766 THAT'S WHEN THE SITE TOLD HER, 989 00:26:02,766 --> 00:26:05,066 BEFORE SHE COULD WITHDRAW HER 990 00:26:05,066 --> 00:26:05,700 MONEY, SHE'D HAVE TO PAY A HEFTY 991 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:09,800 TAX BILL OF ROUGHLY $380,000. 992 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,333 THAT'S WHEN I WAS LIKE 993 00:26:10,333 --> 00:26:12,333 "SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT." 994 00:26:12,333 --> 00:26:14,033 IT WASN'T. 995 00:26:14,033 --> 00:26:15,000 THE CRYPTOCURRENCY INVESTMENTS 996 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,133 WEREN'T REAL. 997 00:26:17,133 --> 00:26:18,133 ALL HER AND HER FATHER'S FUNDS 998 00:26:18,133 --> 00:26:22,466 HAD GONE INTO THE SCAMMER'S 999 00:26:22,566 --> 00:26:22,733 POCKETS. 1000 00:26:22,733 --> 00:26:28,066 IN ALL, $390,000 STOLEN. 1001 00:26:28,066 --> 00:26:28,666 I MESSED UP MY LIFE. 1002 00:26:28,666 --> 00:26:31,166 I MESSED UP MY DAD'S LIFE 1003 00:26:31,166 --> 00:26:32,033 SHE TOLD ME THAT IT WAS ALL A 1004 00:26:32,033 --> 00:26:34,333 SCAM. 1005 00:26:34,333 --> 00:26:36,100 HUTCHINSON'S FATHER, MELVIN. 1006 00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,800 AND ALL I COULD DO WAS JUST 1007 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,533 HUG HER AND TELL HER "IT'S OKAY. 1008 00:26:38,533 --> 00:26:40,433 IT'S OKAY." 1009 00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,433 IT WAS HARD. 1010 00:26:42,433 --> 00:26:43,500 IT WAS HARD, 'CAUSE WE LOST 1011 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:45,966 EVERYTHING. 1012 00:26:45,966 --> 00:26:46,600 John: YEAH-- THEIR MONEY HAD 1013 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,100 ALREADY GONE, AND THAT "TAX 1014 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:50,066 BILL" WAS JUST AN ATTEMPT TO 1015 00:26:50,066 --> 00:26:51,500 SQUEEZE THEM ONE LAST TIME. 1016 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:53,166 AND THEIRS ISN'T THE ONLY BRUTAL 1017 00:26:53,266 --> 00:26:53,466 STORY HERE. 1018 00:26:53,466 --> 00:26:55,400 THIS WOMAN LOST $350,000. 1019 00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:58,100 THIS GUY LOST $300,000. 1020 00:26:58,100 --> 00:26:58,666 AND THAT WOMAN WHO FELL FOR 1021 00:26:58,666 --> 00:27:01,766 "JIMMY" SENT HIM $2.5 MILLION, 1022 00:27:01,766 --> 00:27:02,900 AS SHE WAS DEALING WITH TERMINAL 1023 00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:05,066 CANCER. 1024 00:27:05,066 --> 00:27:07,733 IT'S TRAUMATIC AND HUMILIATING. 1025 00:27:07,733 --> 00:27:08,766 IT TOOK COURAGE FOR THOSE PEOPLE 1026 00:27:08,766 --> 00:27:11,033 TO COME FORWARD. 1027 00:27:11,033 --> 00:27:11,933 AND THAT'S PARTLY WHY EXPERTS 1028 00:27:11,933 --> 00:27:13,633 THINK THE $3 BILLION FIGURE WE 1029 00:27:13,633 --> 00:27:14,966 HAVE IS WAY TOO LOW: BECAUSE 1030 00:27:14,966 --> 00:27:17,166 MOST PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN SCAMMED 1031 00:27:17,166 --> 00:27:17,766 LIKE THIS SIMPLY DON'T REPORT 1032 00:27:17,766 --> 00:27:18,366 THEIR LOSSES OUT OF 1033 00:27:18,366 --> 00:27:19,733 EMBARRASSMENT. 1034 00:27:19,733 --> 00:27:21,433 AND AT THIS POINT, YOU'RE 1035 00:27:21,433 --> 00:27:22,066 PROBABLY FURIOUS WITH THE PEOPLE 1036 00:27:22,066 --> 00:27:23,500 ON THE OTHER END OF ALL THESE 1037 00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:25,400 MESSAGES, AND WANT TO SEE THEM 1038 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,000 TAKEN DOWN-- OR, AT THE VERY 1039 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,966 LEAST, FUCKED WITH. 1040 00:27:27,066 --> 00:27:29,466 AND THAT HAPPENS A LOT. 1041 00:27:29,466 --> 00:27:31,100 PEOPLE POST SCREENGRABS MESSING 1042 00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:33,266 WITH SCAMMERS ALL THE TIME, LIKE 1043 00:27:33,266 --> 00:27:33,900 IN THIS EXCHANGE, WHERE SOMEONE 1044 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:35,966 REPLIES TO A "WRONG NUMBER" TEXT 1045 00:27:35,966 --> 00:27:39,666 WITH "MY NAME IS INIGO 1046 00:27:42,633 --> 00:27:43,366 WITH "MY NAME IS INIGO MONTOYA" 1047 00:27:43,366 --> 00:27:45,000 AND "YOU DON'T BY ANY CHANCE 1048 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,300 HAVE SIX FINGERS ON YOUR RIGHT 1049 00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:47,333 HAND, DO YOU?" 1050 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:48,200 OR THIS ONE, WHERE A SCAMMER 1051 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,400 WRITES "I'M SARAH, NICE TO MEET 1052 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,833 YOU" WITH A PICTURE, AND GETS 1053 00:27:50,833 --> 00:27:52,733 THE REPLY "WEE WOO WEE WOO. 1054 00:27:52,733 --> 00:27:54,833 BONER ALERT." 1055 00:27:54,833 --> 00:27:56,233 AND LOOK: THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE 1056 00:27:56,233 --> 00:27:57,600 THE RIGHT SOUND. 1057 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,566 I WOULD'VE GONE WITH "A-WOO-GA, 1058 00:27:58,566 --> 00:27:59,200 A-WOO-GA. 1059 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,433 BONER ALERT." 1060 00:28:04,433 --> 00:28:05,233 BUT, REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN 1061 00:28:05,233 --> 00:28:06,033 DISAGREE. 1062 00:28:06,033 --> 00:28:07,400 ALL BODIES ARE DIFFERENT. 1063 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,066 THERE'S NO ONE RIGHT SOUND FOR A 1064 00:28:09,066 --> 00:28:10,300 BONER ALERT. 1065 00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:11,733 BUT HERE'S THE THING: AS 1066 00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:13,600 CATHARTIC AS THAT MIGHT BE, THE 1067 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,600 PERSON ON THE OTHER END OF THAT 1068 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,466 PHONE MIGHT NOT BE THE ONE YOU 1069 00:28:15,466 --> 00:28:16,733 SHOULD BE MAD AT. 1070 00:28:16,733 --> 00:28:17,566 BECAUSE REMEMBER WHEN I SAID 1071 00:28:17,566 --> 00:28:18,600 THIS WAS BEING DONE IN FORMER 1072 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,700 CASINOS BY ORGANIZED CRIME 1073 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:20,966 SYNDICATES? 1074 00:28:20,966 --> 00:28:22,400 TURNS OUT, THEY'RE NOT GREAT 1075 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,333 BOSSES. 1076 00:28:23,333 --> 00:28:24,500 THIS COMPOUND IS WHERE AN 1077 00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:25,466 INDIAN MAN NAMED RAKESH SAYS HE 1078 00:28:25,466 --> 00:28:26,433 WAS FORCED TO WORK FOR MORE THAN 1079 00:28:26,433 --> 00:28:27,766 11 MONTHS WITHOUT PAY FOR A 1080 00:28:27,766 --> 00:28:30,666 CHINESE CRIMINAL GANG. 1081 00:28:30,666 --> 00:28:31,300 RAKESH, WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BE 1082 00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:32,500 IDENTIFIED, SAYS HE FIRST FLEW 1083 00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:33,600 TO THAILAND FOR WHAT HE THOUGHT 1084 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,233 WAS AN IT JOB. 1085 00:28:35,333 --> 00:28:37,466 INSTEAD, HE SAYS HE WAS TRICKED 1086 00:28:37,466 --> 00:28:38,800 INTO CROSSING THE BORDER TO 1087 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,233 MYANMAR WHERE A CHINESE GANGSTER 1088 00:28:41,233 --> 00:28:43,900 TOLD HIM TO WORK, OR ELSE. 1089 00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:44,966 HE THREATENED TO KILL YOU. 1090 00:28:44,966 --> 00:28:45,800 YEAH. 1091 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,433 HE WARNED ME LIKE THAT. 1092 00:28:47,433 --> 00:28:48,866 AND THE JOB? 1093 00:28:48,866 --> 00:28:49,466 SPEND 16 HOURS A DAY ON SOCIAL 1094 00:28:49,466 --> 00:28:51,333 MEDIA TARGETING AMERICANS WITH A 1095 00:28:51,333 --> 00:28:53,766 FAKE PROFILE. 1096 00:28:53,766 --> 00:28:55,400 John: THAT'S AWFUL. 1097 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,000 NO ONE SHOULD BE FORCED TO SPEND 1098 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,866 16 HOURS A DAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 1099 00:28:59,866 --> 00:29:02,300 YOU SHOULD DO IT EITHER BECAUSE 1100 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:02,900 YOU LOVE IT, OR BECAUSE YOU'RE 1101 00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:04,266 15-YEARS-OLD AND THE ALGORITHM 1102 00:29:04,266 --> 00:29:05,800 HAS ADDICTED YOU TO IT. 1103 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,000 YOU KNOW. 1104 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,700 COMPLETELY NORMAL REASONS. 1105 00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:10,333 A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE 1106 00:29:10,333 --> 00:29:11,866 USING PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HUMAN 1107 00:29:11,866 --> 00:29:13,866 TRAFFICKED, AFTER BEING LURED TO 1108 00:29:13,866 --> 00:29:14,400 THE COMPOUNDS UNDER FALSE 1109 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,666 PRETENSES. 1110 00:29:15,666 --> 00:29:17,500 THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE VICTIMS OF 1111 00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:18,500 A SCAM THEMSELVES. 1112 00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:19,566 BASICALLY, THEY MIGHT SEE JOB 1113 00:29:19,566 --> 00:29:21,300 ADS FOR SKILLED POSITIONS AS 1114 00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:22,600 TRANSLATORS, OR IT SPECIALISTS, 1115 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,566 IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. 1116 00:29:24,566 --> 00:29:25,633 THEY THEN GO THROUGH A WHOLE 1117 00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:27,066 APPLICATION PROCESS-- WITH SOME 1118 00:29:27,066 --> 00:29:28,700 GOING THROUGH UP TO FOUR 1119 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:29,833 SEEMINGLY LEGITIMATE ONLINE 1120 00:29:29,833 --> 00:29:30,633 INTERVIEWS-- AND FLY TO THEIR 1121 00:29:30,633 --> 00:29:32,433 NEW JOB. 1122 00:29:32,433 --> 00:29:34,966 AT WHICH POINT, THEY SUDDENLY 1123 00:29:34,966 --> 00:29:36,066 LEARN THEIR NEW BOSSES HAVE 1124 00:29:36,066 --> 00:29:38,966 THEIR DOCUMENTS AND THEY NOW 1125 00:29:38,966 --> 00:29:40,233 CAN'T LEAVE. 1126 00:29:40,333 --> 00:29:41,566 BACK IN 2022, PROPUBLICA 1127 00:29:41,666 --> 00:29:42,800 ESTIMATED THAT TENS OF THOUSANDS 1128 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,000 OF PEOPLE HAD BEEN TRICKED IN 1129 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,533 THIS WAY. 1130 00:29:46,533 --> 00:29:47,800 AND A MORE RECENT UN REPORT 1131 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,466 ESTIMATED THAT HUNDREDS OF 1132 00:29:49,466 --> 00:29:50,066 THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN 1133 00:29:50,066 --> 00:29:52,100 FORCIBLY ENGAGED IN THIS SCHEME. 1134 00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:53,066 THEY ALSO SAY "MOST VICTIMS ARE 1135 00:29:53,066 --> 00:29:54,866 CONFINED TO THE SCAM COMPOUND," 1136 00:29:54,866 --> 00:29:57,233 AND THEIR SCREENS ARE ALWAYS 1137 00:29:57,233 --> 00:29:57,866 MONITORED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE 1138 00:29:57,866 --> 00:29:58,766 ORGANIZED CRIME GROUP. 1139 00:29:58,766 --> 00:29:59,500 AND ONCE THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE 1140 00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:01,933 PROVIDED FAKE PROFILES TO TRY 1141 00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:03,000 AND HOOK PEOPLE IN WITH. 1142 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,200 HERE'S WHO RAKESH FOUND HIMSELF 1143 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:06,566 BEING ALL DAY. 1144 00:30:06,566 --> 00:30:08,333 I GOT A RUSSIAN GIRL. 1145 00:30:08,333 --> 00:30:10,900 WITH USING A RUSSIAN GIRL FAKE 1146 00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:12,533 PROFILE, I NEED TO SCAM PEOPLE. 1147 00:30:12,533 --> 00:30:14,733 POSING AS A SALT LAKE 1148 00:30:14,833 --> 00:30:15,366 CITY-BASED INVESTOR NAMED CLARA 1149 00:30:15,466 --> 00:30:17,266 SIMONOV, RAKESH FLIRTED ONLINE 1150 00:30:17,266 --> 00:30:21,600 WITH POTENTIAL TARGETS. 1151 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,733 70-80% FALL FOR FAKE LOVE. 1152 00:30:23,733 --> 00:30:24,466 John: YEAH, RAKESH WAS KLARA 1153 00:30:24,466 --> 00:30:26,000 SEMONOV FROM SALT LAKE CITY. 1154 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,500 SO, BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER: 1155 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:29,133 ANYONE WHO THINKS THEY'RE DATING 1156 00:30:29,133 --> 00:30:32,533 KLARA-- I'M AFRAID YOU'RE NOT. 1157 00:30:32,533 --> 00:30:35,066 THE RELATIONSHIP IS OVER. 1158 00:30:35,066 --> 00:30:35,700 IT'S NOT YOU, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT 1159 00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:36,300 HER. 1160 00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:38,233 IT'S RAKESH. 1161 00:30:38,233 --> 00:30:39,466 BUT ALSO, IT ISN'T HIM. 1162 00:30:39,466 --> 00:30:41,233 IT'S RAKESH'S BOSS, WHO WON'T 1163 00:30:41,233 --> 00:30:42,300 LET HIM LEAVE. 1164 00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:43,466 THE WHOLE OPERATION IS HIGHLY 1165 00:30:43,466 --> 00:30:45,033 ORGANIZED, AND SET UP TO GET 1166 00:30:45,033 --> 00:30:47,333 AROUND THE USUAL WAYS YOU MIGHT 1167 00:30:47,433 --> 00:30:49,333 DETECT A SCAM. 1168 00:30:49,433 --> 00:30:50,000 FOR INSTANCE, SOME ORGANIZATIONS 1169 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,133 GENERATE THEIR OWN PHOTOS FOR 1170 00:30:51,133 --> 00:30:53,366 THE PROFILES, SO THEY CAN'T BE 1171 00:30:53,366 --> 00:30:55,400 REVERSE-IMAGE-SEARCHED. 1172 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,033 AND EMPLOYEES ARE GIVEN MANUALS 1173 00:30:56,033 --> 00:30:58,066 LIKE THESE THAT GUIDE THEM 1174 00:30:58,066 --> 00:30:58,600 THROUGH EVERY STEP OF THE 1175 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,633 PROCESS. 1176 00:30:59,633 --> 00:31:00,366 THEY'RE TOLD TO TARGET PEOPLE 1177 00:31:00,366 --> 00:31:03,033 WHO LOOK WEALTHY AND SUCCESSFUL. 1178 00:31:03,033 --> 00:31:05,700 ONE ADVISES: ON THE FIRST DAY, 1179 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:06,266 TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE YOUR 1180 00:31:06,266 --> 00:31:07,266 NAME, AGE, OCCUPATION AND 1181 00:31:07,266 --> 00:31:08,866 HOBBIES. 1182 00:31:08,866 --> 00:31:10,533 THEN, THE NEXT DAY, TALK ABOUT 1183 00:31:10,533 --> 00:31:12,200 YOUR EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE, WITH 1184 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,166 A MESSAGE DIVIDED INTO TWO 1185 00:31:14,166 --> 00:31:15,433 PARAGRAPHS. 1186 00:31:15,433 --> 00:31:16,533 AND THEN, ON THE THIRD DAY, TALK 1187 00:31:16,533 --> 00:31:17,633 ABOUT YOUR ENTREPRENEURIAL 1188 00:31:17,633 --> 00:31:19,733 EXPERIENCE. 1189 00:31:19,733 --> 00:31:20,333 THEY'RE EVEN GIVEN TIPS ON HOW 1190 00:31:20,433 --> 00:31:22,200 TO BREAK DOWN PEOPLE'S DEFENSES. 1191 00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:22,866 WE REVIEWED SEVERAL OF THESE 1192 00:31:22,866 --> 00:31:24,500 MANUALS AND THEY CAREFULLY 1193 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:25,633 EXPLAIN HOW TO BUILD TRUST AND 1194 00:31:25,633 --> 00:31:29,066 EXPLOIT WEAKNESSES IN THEIR 1195 00:31:29,066 --> 00:31:29,633 SO-CALLED CLIENT, SUCH AS-- 1196 00:31:29,633 --> 00:31:33,433 BE FUNNY, MAKE CLIENTS FALL 1197 00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:34,633 IN LOVE WITH YOU SO DEEPLY THAT 1198 00:31:34,633 --> 00:31:36,400 THEY FORGET EVERYTHING. 1199 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,066 John: THE CHILLING THING IS, 1200 00:31:38,066 --> 00:31:38,600 THAT'S KIND OF TRUE. 1201 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,566 IF YOU'RE FUNNY ENOUGH, YOU CAN 1202 00:31:39,566 --> 00:31:40,566 MAKE PEOPLE FORGET A LOT OF 1203 00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:42,133 THINGS, WHETHER IT'S COMMONSENSE 1204 00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:43,433 INTERNET SAFEGUARDS, LESSONS 1205 00:31:43,433 --> 00:31:46,033 FROM PREVIOUS RELATIONSHIPS, OR 1206 00:31:46,033 --> 00:31:47,200 THAT THEY'VE BEEN ACCIDENTALLY 1207 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,700 LEARNING ABOUT FINANCIAL FRAUD 1208 00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:50,166 AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING FOR THE 1209 00:31:50,166 --> 00:31:53,766 LAST TWENTY MINUTES. 1210 00:31:53,866 --> 00:31:56,466 WE ARE HAVING FUN, AREN'T WE? 1211 00:31:56,466 --> 00:31:58,033 AND IF YOU'RE THINKING "WHY 1212 00:31:58,033 --> 00:31:58,866 DON'T AUTHORITIES SHUT THESE 1213 00:31:58,866 --> 00:31:59,766 COMPOUNDS DOWN?" 1214 00:31:59,766 --> 00:32:01,633 SOMETIMES, THEY'RE IN ON IT. 1215 00:32:01,633 --> 00:32:02,433 HERE'S ONE MAN WHO WAS 1216 00:32:02,433 --> 00:32:03,566 TRAFFICKED TO A SCAM CENTER IN 1217 00:32:03,566 --> 00:32:04,733 CAMBODIA, EXPLAINING WHAT 1218 00:32:04,733 --> 00:32:05,966 HAPPENED WHEN HE DID THE OBVIOUS 1219 00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:06,600 THING. 1220 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,433 ON HIS SECOND DAY IN 1221 00:32:07,433 --> 00:32:10,266 CAPTIVITY, LU EMAILED THE 1222 00:32:10,266 --> 00:32:10,633 CHINESE EMBASSY. 1223 00:32:10,633 --> 00:32:11,466 HE WAS ADVISED TO CALL THE 1224 00:32:11,466 --> 00:32:12,700 SIHANOUKVILLE POLICE. 1225 00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:14,833 BUT THE POLICE NEVER CAME. 1226 00:32:14,833 --> 00:32:16,133 THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT CAME 1227 00:32:16,133 --> 00:32:17,133 INSTEAD. 1228 00:32:17,133 --> 00:32:17,866 THEY KNEW THAT I'D CALLED THE 1229 00:32:17,866 --> 00:32:20,933 POLICE. 1230 00:32:20,933 --> 00:32:23,633 LU SAYS THE MANAGERS THEN 1231 00:32:23,633 --> 00:32:24,866 SOLD HIM TO ANOTHER SCAMMING 1232 00:32:24,866 --> 00:32:31,933 COMPANY. 1233 00:32:33,366 --> 00:32:33,933 HE SAID BECAUSE I CALLED THE 1234 00:32:33,933 --> 00:32:35,233 POLICE, THEY HAD TO "TAKE CARE" 1235 00:32:35,233 --> 00:32:35,800 OF THE POLICE WITH AT LEAST 1236 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,000 $4,000, AND I HAD TO PAY FOR 1237 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:38,266 THAT TOO. 1238 00:32:38,266 --> 00:32:39,133 John: YEAH, THE AUTHORITIES 1239 00:32:39,133 --> 00:32:40,200 WEREN'T GOING TO HELP HIM. 1240 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,233 WHICH ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE WHEN 1241 00:32:41,233 --> 00:32:42,500 YOU LEARN THAT, ACCORDING TO UN 1242 00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:43,700 ESTIMATES, PIG BUTCHERING IN 1243 00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:45,033 CAMBODIA BRINGS IN AN AMOUNT 1244 00:32:45,033 --> 00:32:45,700 EQUIVALENT TO HALF THE COUNTRY'S 1245 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:46,733 GDP. 1246 00:32:46,733 --> 00:32:48,333 WHICH IS WORRISOME, BECAUSE AS 1247 00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:50,166 EVERYONE KNOWS WHEN SOMETHING 1248 00:32:50,166 --> 00:32:50,933 GENERATES THAT MUCH MONEY, YOU 1249 00:32:50,933 --> 00:32:53,266 DON'T SHUT IT DOWN, YOU SPIN IT 1250 00:32:53,266 --> 00:32:53,866 OFF AND PRAY THE MAGIC WORKS A 1251 00:32:53,866 --> 00:32:58,166 SECOND TIME. 1252 00:32:58,166 --> 00:32:59,566 , ON! 1253 00:33:00,833 --> 00:33:01,566 AND CONDITIONS IN THESE 1254 00:33:01,666 --> 00:33:06,166 COMPOUNDS CAN BE BRUTAL. 1255 00:33:06,166 --> 00:33:06,700 THAT MAN YOU SAW EARLIER, 1256 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:08,400 RAKESH, TOOK PHOTOS OF ABUSE 1257 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,300 LIKE THIS ONE, OF A COWORKER 1258 00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:10,400 WHO'D BEEN BEATEN. 1259 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,033 AND LU, WHO MANAGED TO GET OUT, 1260 00:33:11,033 --> 00:33:12,166 NOW WORKS TO FREE OTHERS-- AND 1261 00:33:12,166 --> 00:33:13,600 THE STORIES OF WHAT HE'S SEEN 1262 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,766 ARE, FAIR WARNING, HARD TO 1263 00:33:14,766 --> 00:33:15,600 WATCH. 1264 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,300 I SAW A MAN GET BEATEN UP 1265 00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:17,766 VERY BADLY. 1266 00:33:17,766 --> 00:33:19,133 HE HAD INJURIES ALL OVER HIS 1267 00:33:19,133 --> 00:33:20,400 BODY. 1268 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,233 LU CONTENDS IT WAS THIS MAN, 1269 00:33:22,233 --> 00:33:22,866 WHO WAS REPORTEDLY FOUND HANGING 1270 00:33:22,866 --> 00:33:24,500 JUST HOURS LATER. 1271 00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:26,566 I'M CERTAIN IT WAS HIM. 1272 00:33:26,566 --> 00:33:28,200 HIS PHONE IS FULL OF MESSAGES 1273 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,733 FROM CHINESE CITIZENS DESPERATE 1274 00:33:29,733 --> 00:33:32,100 TO BE FREE FROM SCAM COMPANIES. 1275 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:34,600 THERE'S VIDEOS OF ABUSE. 1276 00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:36,433 LU SAYS HE RECEIVES THEM 1277 00:33:36,433 --> 00:33:38,533 DIRECTLY FROM VICTIMS INSIDE THE 1278 00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:40,100 SCAM INDUSTRY, OR FINDS THEM 1279 00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:41,400 POSTED IN SOCIAL MEDIA GROUP 1280 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,100 CHATS. 1281 00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:48,866 "HE'S GOT HANDCUFFS." 1282 00:33:48,866 --> 00:33:50,266 THEY'RE SHOCKING. 1283 00:33:50,266 --> 00:33:51,866 John: THAT'S HORRIFYING. 1284 00:33:51,866 --> 00:33:52,766 AND WHEN YOU KNOW ALL THIS, IT 1285 00:33:52,766 --> 00:33:54,966 KIND OF STARTS TO CHANGE WHO 1286 00:33:54,966 --> 00:33:58,300 EXACTLY YOU'RE MAD AT HERE. 1287 00:33:58,300 --> 00:33:58,766 BECAUSE SUDDENLY, THE 1288 00:33:58,766 --> 00:34:00,300 INDIVIDUALS ON THE OTHER END OF 1289 00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:01,166 THE PHONE DON'T SEEM QUITE SO 1290 00:34:01,166 --> 00:34:02,733 FUN TO SEND A MESSAGE OF "WEE 1291 00:34:02,733 --> 00:34:04,666 WOO WEE WOO, BONER ALERT" TO. 1292 00:34:04,666 --> 00:34:05,266 NOT THAT IT ISN'T AN EXCELLENT 1293 00:34:05,266 --> 00:34:06,333 TEXT. 1294 00:34:06,333 --> 00:34:08,366 WHO DOESN'T LOVE A BONER ALERT? 1295 00:34:08,466 --> 00:34:09,000 BUT THERE'S A TIME AND A PLACE, 1296 00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:10,933 AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE IT. 1297 00:34:10,933 --> 00:34:11,566 ALSO, FROM NOW ON, WHENEVER YOU 1298 00:34:11,566 --> 00:34:12,833 GET A SEXY TEXT FROM A NEW 1299 00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:14,033 STRANGER, GOOD LUCK NOT 1300 00:34:14,033 --> 00:34:14,900 THINKING, "IS THIS A MAN WHO WAS 1301 00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:16,866 JUST BEATEN IN A WORK CAMP IN 1302 00:34:16,866 --> 00:34:17,133 MYANMAR?" 1303 00:34:17,133 --> 00:34:17,733 AND THAT, IF ANYTHING, IS THE 1304 00:34:17,733 --> 00:34:19,266 JOHN OLIVER EFFECT. 1305 00:34:19,266 --> 00:34:25,066 YOU'RE WELCOME. 1306 00:34:25,066 --> 00:34:25,633 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 1307 00:34:25,633 --> 00:34:26,866 AND LOOK: I CAN'T SAY THAT EVERY 1308 00:34:26,866 --> 00:34:27,633 SCAMMER IS SOMEONE WHO WAS 1309 00:34:27,633 --> 00:34:29,266 KIDNAPPED, TORTURED AND FORCED 1310 00:34:29,266 --> 00:34:30,000 TO DO IT. 1311 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,600 BUT EVEN IF NOT EVERYONE WHO'S 1312 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,800 DOING THIS IS TRAPPED OR 1313 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,733 COERCED, THE FACT THAT MANY ARE, 1314 00:34:32,733 --> 00:34:34,200 IS STILL A HUGE PROBLEM. 1315 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,433 SO, WHAT CAN WE DO? 1316 00:34:35,433 --> 00:34:37,733 WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE 1317 00:34:37,733 --> 00:34:38,533 IMPRISONED IN THESE COMPOUNDS, 1318 00:34:38,533 --> 00:34:39,633 THAT'S GOING TO TAKE 1319 00:34:39,633 --> 00:34:41,166 COLLABORATION BETWEEN 1320 00:34:41,266 --> 00:34:42,333 INTERNATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. 1321 00:34:42,433 --> 00:34:44,833 SO UNLESS YOU'RE THE HEAD OF 1322 00:34:44,833 --> 00:34:45,433 INTERPOL, WHICH, I'M GUESSING, 1323 00:34:45,433 --> 00:34:46,033 YOU'RE NOT, THERE'S NOT MUCH 1324 00:34:46,033 --> 00:34:47,200 YOU, PERSONALLY, CAN DO. 1325 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,000 IN THIS COUNTRY, I'D ARGUE 1326 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,166 PLATFORMS LIKE THESE SHOULD BE 1327 00:34:52,166 --> 00:34:54,600 DOING WAY MORE TO PREVENT PEOPLE 1328 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,833 FROM MAKING FAKE ACCOUNTS AND 1329 00:34:56,833 --> 00:34:57,433 TARGETING PEOPLE, BECAUSE IT'S 1330 00:34:57,433 --> 00:34:58,966 HAPPENING ON THEIR WATCH. 1331 00:34:58,966 --> 00:35:04,766 BUT THE TRUTH IS, PERHAPS THE 1332 00:35:04,766 --> 00:35:05,666 MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO STOP THIS 1333 00:35:05,666 --> 00:35:07,333 FROM HAPPENING, IS TO MAKE IT 1334 00:35:07,333 --> 00:35:08,333 LESS LUCRATIVE BY HAVING FEWER 1335 00:35:08,333 --> 00:35:09,400 PEOPLE FALL FOR IT. 1336 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,000 AND THAT'S WHERE AWARENESS OF 1337 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,333 THIS SCAM IS KEY. 1338 00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:13,500 THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RARE CASES 1339 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:14,100 WHERE RAISING AWARENESS IS, IN 1340 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,333 ITSELF, GENUINELY USEFUL. 1341 00:35:15,433 --> 00:35:16,333 BECAUSE HOPEFULLY, YOU'VE SEEN 1342 00:35:16,333 --> 00:35:17,466 TONIGHT-- THIS COULD HAPPEN TO 1343 00:35:17,466 --> 00:35:18,633 SOMEONE YOU KNOW. 1344 00:35:18,633 --> 00:35:21,000 THIS HASN'T JUST SUCKED IN OLD 1345 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,566 PEOPLE, OR THOSE WHO AREN'T 1346 00:35:21,566 --> 00:35:22,100 TECH-SAVVY. 1347 00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:23,266 IT MANAGED TO REEL IN A BANK 1348 00:35:23,266 --> 00:35:24,266 CEO. 1349 00:35:24,266 --> 00:35:26,166 EVERYONE HAS AN IMAGE OF THE 1350 00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:26,800 TYPE OF PERSON WHO'S SUSCEPTIBLE 1351 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,733 TO GETTING SCAMMED IN THEIR 1352 00:35:27,733 --> 00:35:29,833 HEADS, BUT UNLESS THAT IMAGE IS 1353 00:35:29,833 --> 00:35:31,233 A MIRROR, YOU MIGHT BE WRONG. 1354 00:35:31,233 --> 00:35:34,133 SO: AS A GENERAL RULE, WHEN A 1355 00:35:34,133 --> 00:35:35,400 STRANGER ON A DATING APP SAYS 1356 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,300 EITHER "I LOVE YOU" OR "CRYPTO" 1357 00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:38,666 WITHIN A MONTH OF TALKING TO 1358 00:35:38,666 --> 00:35:41,200 YOU: WORRY. 1359 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,833 HONESTLY, EVEN IF THEY DON'T 1360 00:35:42,833 --> 00:35:43,433 TURN OUT TO BE SCAMMERS, THOSE 1361 00:35:43,433 --> 00:35:44,066 ARE PRETTY GOOD RED FLAGS TO BE 1362 00:35:44,066 --> 00:35:47,300 LOOKING FOR, PERSONALITY-WISE. 1363 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,233 AND IT'S WORTH TELLING YOUR 1364 00:35:48,333 --> 00:35:49,533 FRIENDS AND FAMILY ABOUT PIG 1365 00:35:49,533 --> 00:35:51,000 BUTCHERING, TOO. 1366 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,666 IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BIG 1367 00:35:51,666 --> 00:35:53,700 LECTURE OR ANYTHING. 1368 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:54,333 YOU CAN JUST SEND THEM A LINK TO 1369 00:35:54,333 --> 00:35:56,333 THIS SHOW. 1370 00:35:56,333 --> 00:35:56,933 AND IF THEY SAY, "I HATE THAT 1371 00:35:56,933 --> 00:35:58,500 GUY," SAY, "YEAH, ME TOO, HE'S 1372 00:35:58,500 --> 00:35:59,233 THE WORST, JUST SKIP PAST THE 1373 00:35:59,233 --> 00:36:00,633 JOKES." 1374 00:36:00,633 --> 00:36:02,500 AND IF THEY SAY, "I'LL WATCH IT, 1375 00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:03,000 BUT HE LOOKS LIKE A LEGO 1376 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,233 ACCOUNTANT. 1377 00:36:04,233 --> 00:36:05,900 WAIT, NO-- HE LOOKS LIKE CHAT 1378 00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:06,466 GPT'S ANSWER TO 'SHOW ME A 1379 00:36:06,466 --> 00:36:08,100 VIRGIN.' 1380 00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:09,700 WAIT, NO. 1381 00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:10,333 HE LOOKS LIKE HARRY POTTER IF HE 1382 00:36:10,333 --> 00:36:12,666 JUST STAYED UNDER THE STAIRS." 1383 00:36:12,666 --> 00:36:14,366 JUST LEAVE THEM ON READ. 1384 00:36:14,366 --> 00:36:14,933 YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMPLETELY 1385 00:36:14,933 --> 00:36:16,700 SELL ME OUT. 1386 00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:17,433 MAYBE DROP A THUMBS-UP EMJOI, 1387 00:36:17,433 --> 00:36:20,400 BUT LEAVE IT AT THAT. 1388 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,766 AND LOOK: IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE 1389 00:36:21,866 --> 00:36:23,233 WHO'S BEEN SCAMMED LIKE THIS, BE 1390 00:36:23,233 --> 00:36:25,833 KIND. 1391 00:36:25,833 --> 00:36:26,900 IT'S HUMAN TO WANT 1392 00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:27,566 COMPANIONSHIP. 1393 00:36:27,566 --> 00:36:29,300 AND IT'S ACTUALLY A NICE QUALITY 1394 00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:30,900 TO BE TRUSTING. 1395 00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:33,100 AND IT SUCKS THAT THE INTERNET, 1396 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,100 WHICH SHOULD BE A WAY TO 1397 00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:34,700 ALLEVIATE LONELINESS, CAN BE 1398 00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:35,300 TURNED INTO A TOOL TO EXPLOIT 1399 00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:37,166 IT. 1400 00:36:37,166 --> 00:36:39,366 BUT MAYBE, IF WE ALL LOOK OUT 1401 00:36:39,366 --> 00:36:40,400 FOR ONE ANOTHER, WE CAN ENSURE 1402 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,766 THAT THE WORST MISTAKE ANYONE 1403 00:36:41,766 --> 00:36:46,233 EVER MAKES ON THE INTERNET IS 1404 00:36:46,233 --> 00:36:46,733 INADVERTENTLY BUYING AN 1405 00:36:46,733 --> 00:36:50,933 EXCELLENT CHRISTMAS TREE FOR GAY 1406 00:36:50,933 --> 00:36:53,466 MICE. 1407 00:36:53,466 --> 00:36:54,466 BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT THAT BAD 1408 00:36:54,566 --> 00:36:54,933 A PURCHASE. 1409 00:36:54,933 --> 00:36:55,366 BELIEVE ME, I KNOW. 1410 00:36:55,366 --> 00:36:58,033 AND NOW, THIS. 1411 00:36:58,033 --> 00:37:02,366 Announcer: AND NOW, LOSING 1412 00:37:02,366 --> 00:37:05,266 IT OVER MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL'S NEW PANTS. 1413 00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:06,266 MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 1414 00:37:06,266 --> 00:37:07,466 INTRODUCED NEW UNIFORMS THIS 1415 00:37:07,466 --> 00:37:08,533 YEAR, BUT THERE'S PROBLEMS. 1416 00:37:08,533 --> 00:37:11,033 THE PANTS ARE MADE OF THINNER 1417 00:37:11,033 --> 00:37:12,133 FABRIC, MAKING THEM ALMOST 1418 00:37:12,133 --> 00:37:15,633 SEE-THROUGH, CHRIS. 1419 00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:18,000 YOU'VE GOT MY ATTENTION, I'M 1420 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:18,266 LISTENING. 1421 00:37:18,266 --> 00:37:19,433 SHIRTS KEEPING THINGS 1422 00:37:19,433 --> 00:37:20,433 COVERED. 1423 00:37:20,433 --> 00:37:20,866 LOOK AT HIS HANDS. 1424 00:37:20,866 --> 00:37:22,100 THEY ARE DEFINITELY 1425 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:23,166 SEE-THROUGH. 1426 00:37:23,166 --> 00:37:24,566 YOU CAN SEE IT. 1427 00:37:24,566 --> 00:37:28,333 OH. 1428 00:37:28,433 --> 00:37:28,633 [LAUGHTER] 1429 00:37:28,633 --> 00:37:30,700 STEVE! 1430 00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:30,866 WOW. 1431 00:37:30,866 --> 00:37:32,966 WE CAN GO TO THE WEATHER NOW. 1432 00:37:32,966 --> 00:37:34,866 DOES HE LOOK HAPPY WEARING 1433 00:37:34,866 --> 00:37:35,066 THEM? 1434 00:37:35,066 --> 00:37:35,233 NO. 1435 00:37:35,233 --> 00:37:36,933 HE LOOKS HAPPY WEARING THEM. 1436 00:37:36,933 --> 00:37:38,900 DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM? 1437 00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:40,166 I DON'T THINK GIRLS ARE 1438 00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:41,266 SAYING THERE'S A PROBLEM. 1439 00:37:41,266 --> 00:37:44,033 PLAYERS, I THINK, HAVE AN 1440 00:37:44,033 --> 00:37:44,933 ISSUE WITH IT. 1441 00:37:44,933 --> 00:37:46,866 PATENS AND BOXER BRIEFS, 1442 00:37:46,866 --> 00:37:48,000 EVERYONE IS GOING TO SEE THAT? 1443 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,866 I'M SUDDENLY INTERESTED IN 1444 00:37:50,866 --> 00:37:51,133 BASEBALL. 1445 00:37:51,133 --> 00:37:53,666 CAN WE ZOOM IN TO THESE 1446 00:37:53,666 --> 00:37:54,400 PHOTOS A LITTLE MORE? 1447 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,600 I CAN'T TELL BECAUSE I'VE GOT 1448 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:56,866 BAD EYES. 1449 00:37:56,866 --> 00:37:58,366 YOU CAN SEE THE SHIRT TUCKED 1450 00:37:58,366 --> 00:37:58,533 IN. 1451 00:37:58,533 --> 00:38:01,066 MAY BECOME OF THE UNIFORMS, 1452 00:38:01,166 --> 00:38:03,800 MORE WOMEN ARE WATCHING 1453 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,133 BASEBALL, RUNNING TO WATCH 1454 00:38:05,133 --> 00:38:05,400 BASEBALL. 1455 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,700 YOU'VE GOT ERIKA'S INTEREST. 1456 00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:10,033 SHE IS GOOGLING OVER HERE. 1457 00:38:10,033 --> 00:38:12,200 THAT'S A GOOD RECRUITING 1458 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:12,433 DEVICE. 1459 00:38:12,433 --> 00:38:13,566 NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PANTS. 1460 00:38:13,566 --> 00:38:15,200 I THINK THEY ARE FINE. 1461 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,266 I WAS INSPECTING THEM. 1462 00:38:18,266 --> 00:38:18,766 OKAY. 1463 00:38:18,766 --> 00:38:21,400 THIS MAY MAKE YOU-- 1464 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,566 [LAUGHTER] 1465 00:38:23,566 --> 00:38:26,800 WHO PUT THE ORDER OF THE 1466 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,400 STORIES THIS WAY? 1467 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,466 John: THAT'S OUR SHOW. 1468 00:38:31,466 --> 00:38:32,733 THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. 1469 00:38:32,733 --> 00:38:35,266 WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK, 1470 00:38:35,366 --> 00:38:35,933 GOOD NIGHT. 1471 00:38:36,033 --> 00:38:36,433 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 1472 00:38:36,433 --> 00:38:42,900 ♪ ♪ 95429

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