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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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John: WELCOME, WELCOME,
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WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT!"
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I'M JOHN OLIVER, THANKS FOR
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JOINING US.
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IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK, FROM
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THE U.S. VETOING A CEASE-FIRE IN
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GAZA YET AGAIN, TO THE
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REVELATION THAT JOE BIDEN'S DOG
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BIT SECRET SERVICE AGENTS AT
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LEAST 24 DIFFERENT TIMES.
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BUT WE'RE GOING TO START IN WEST
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VIRGINIA, WHICH HAS SPENT THE
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PAST SEVERAL WEEKS DEBATING A
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BILL TO IMPOSE CRIMINAL
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PENALTIES FOR EXPOSING CHILDREN
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TO "OBSCENE" LITERATURE IN
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SCHOOLS AND LIBRARIES.
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THE DEBATE'S FEATURED SOME
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SPECTACULAR TESTIMONY FROM
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CONCERNED CITIZENS, READING OUT
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MATERIAL THEY OBJECTED TO.
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ARE YOU GONNA EAT HER PUSSY?
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YEAH, EARL, I'M GONNA EAT HER
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PUSSY.
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HEY, YEAH.
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DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO EAT
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PUSSY?
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PAPA GAINES NEVER SAT YOU DOWN,
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SAID "SON, ONE DAY, YOU'RE GOING
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TO HAVE TO EAT THE PUSSY?"
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NO.
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BUT HE DID TEACH ME HOW TO EAT A
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BUTTHOLE.
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John: LOOK, I ADMIT, I DON'T
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REMEMBER THAT SCENE FROM "THE
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GIVING TREE."
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BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE, AND IN
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RETROSPECT, IT DOES MAKE SENSE
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FOR THE TREE TO SIT THE BOY DOWN
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AND EXPLAIN HOW TO ROCK THE BOX.
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IT'S AN IMPORTANT LESSON.
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BUT WHILE THAT HEARING WAS
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RIDICULOUS, THE LAW ITSELF IS
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SERIOUS.
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VIOLATING IT COULD CARRY A
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FELONY CHARGE, WITH A PENALTY OF
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$25,000 AND A SENTENCE OF UP TO
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5-YEARS.
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MANY HAVE CALLED IT A "BOOK BAN"
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ALTHOUGH THE BILL'S BACKERS
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PUSHED BACK ON THAT, WITH ONE OF
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THE SPEAKERS WHO SUPPORTED IT
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SAYING, "WE ARE NOT BANNING OR
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BURNING, WE ARE PROTECTING."
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ALTHOUGH I'LL TELL YOU WHAT
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YOU'RE DEFINITELY NOT
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PROTECTING, AND THAT'S MY EARS
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FROM HEARING "EAT THE PUSSY"
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FOUR TIMES OUT OF THIS WOMAN'S
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MOUTH.
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BUT WHILE WEST VIRGINIA MAY NOT
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BE BURNING BOOKS, OBSCENITY
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BILLS AND SIMILAR MORAL PANICS
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ARE SPREADING AROUND THE
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COUNTRY, IN PLACES LIKE
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MISSOURI, WHERE A CANDIDATE FOR
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OFFICE RELEASED THIS VIDEO.
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THIS IS WHAT I WILL DO TO THE
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GROOMING BOOKS WHEN I BECOME
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SECRETARY OF STATE.
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♪ ♪
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THESE BOOKS COME FROM A MISSOURI
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PUBLIC LIBRARY.
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WHEN I'M IN OFFICE, THEY WILL
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BURN.
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John: OKAY.
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THERE'S A LOT TO NOT LIKE THERE,
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INCLUDING THAT HER FLAMETHROWER
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IS APPARENTLY FUELED BY LIBERAL
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TEARS.
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WHICH...
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WHAT?
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I'M NOT SAYING THE GOP'S
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MESSAGING IS IN DISARRAY, BUT...
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ARE LIBERAL TEARS THE THING YOU
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LOVE TO DRINK BECAUSE YOUR
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ENEMIES' SADNESS TASTES SO
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SWEET?
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OR, IS IT THE DEADLY FUEL FOR
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YOUR VERY COOL SHARK-THEMED
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FLAMETHROWER?
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YOU'VE GOT TO PICK A FUCKING
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LANE.
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BUT FOR NOW, LET'S TURN TO
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ALABAMA, WHICH HAS BEEN REELING
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AFTER A MAJOR DECISION FROM ITS
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HIGHEST COURT.
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THIS MORNING, A FIRST OF ITS
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KIND DECISION BY THE ALABAMA
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SUPREME COURT THAT COULD PUT
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FAMILIES' ACCESS TO FERTILITY
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TREATMENTS IN THE POST-ROE ERA
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AT RISK.
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THE COURT, DETERMINING FROZEN
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EMBRYOS QUALIFY AS PEOPLE UNDER
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ITS STATE LAW, RULING UNBORN
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CHILDREN ARE CHILDREN WITHOUT
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EXCEPTION BASED ON DEVELOPMENTAL
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STAGE.
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John: YEAH.
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THEY RULED FROZEN EMBRYOS ARE
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THE SAME AS PEOPLE, WHICH IS
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WRONG FOR A BUNCH OF REASONS--
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MAINLY, IF YOU FREEZE AN EMBRYO,
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IT'S FINE.
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IF YOU FREEZE A PERSON, YOU HAVE
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SOME EXPLAINING TO DO.
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THAT RULING COULD HAVE MASSIVE
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IMPLICATIONS FOR ANYONE WHO
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NEEDS IVF TO CONCEIVE-- AND
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THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.
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AROUND 2% OF BABIES BORN IN THE
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US ARE FROM IVF.
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ALREADY, MULTIPLE FERTILITY
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CLINICS HAVE PAUSED TREATMENT IN
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THE WAKE OF THE DECISION--
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WHICH, AS ANYONE WHO'S EVER
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UNDERGONE IVF WILL TELL YOU,
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ISN'T SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST DO.
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IVF CYCLES TAKE WEEKS OF CAREFUL
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MONITORING AND EXPENSIVE
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TREATMENTS.
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YOU CAN'T JUS HIT PAUSE AND
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WAIT OUT A COURT CASE.
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THIS IS A SEISMIC DECISION, AND
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THE REASON THE COURT WAS HEARING
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THIS CASE TO BEGIN WITH WAS
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PRETTY WILD.
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THE CASE IN QUESTION INVOLVED
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A PATIENT WHO MANAGED TO ACCESS
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THE FREEZER STORING FROZEN
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EMBRYOS AT AN ALABAMA FERTILITY
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CLINIC.
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THE PATIENT PICKED UP MULTIPLE
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EMBRYOS AND MISTAKENLY DROPPED
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AND DESTROYED THEM.
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John: YEAH-- THE COURT RULED
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THAT THE CLINIC COULD BE SUED
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FOR WRONGFUL DEATH.
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AND WHILE THAT ACCIDENT'S
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GENUINELY HORRIBLE, SOMEONE
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WANDERING INTO A LAB AND
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DROPPING FROZEN EMBRYOS JUST
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ISN'T MURDER.
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IF ANYTHING, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE
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SCRIPT FOR A PRETTY TASTELESS
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"MR. BEAN" SEQUEL.
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AND LOOK: THE REASON CLINICS ARE
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PAUSING TREATMENT RIGHT NOW IS
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THAT NOBODY QUITE KNOWS WHAT IT
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COULD MEAN FOR AN EMBRYO TO BE
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LEGALLY EQUIVALENT TO A PERSON,
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GOING FORWARD.
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WHAT HAPPENS IF AN EMBRYO IS
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STORED IMPROPERLY?
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WHAT IF THEY'RE-- AS INEVITABLY
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HAPPENS-- LEFT OVER OR
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DESTROYED IN THE IMPLANTATION
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PROCESS?
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WHAT ABOUT GENETIC TESTING,
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WHICH CAN REDUCE THE RISK OF
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MISCARRIAGE, BUT DOES CARRY A
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SLIGHT RISK OF DAMAGING EMBRYOS?
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WOULD THAT NOW BE CONSIDERED A
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WRONGFUL DEATH?
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IT'S CHAOS, AND EXPERTS SAY
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COURTS IN OTHER STATES COULD TRY
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AND ISSUE SIMILAR RULINGS.
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BUT NONE OF THIS SHOULD BE
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SURPRISING.
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THIS RULING IS A NATURAL
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OUTGROWTH OF THE CONCEPT OF
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"FETAL PERSONHOOD," LONG PUSHED
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BY HARDLINE ANTI-ABORTION
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GROUPS, WHICH REPUBLICANS HAVE
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SPENT DECADES COURTING.
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AND SOME POLITICIANS SUDDENLY
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SEEM ALARMED TO HAVE TO DEAL
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WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF A
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MOVEMENT THEY EMPOWERED.
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NIKKI HALEY, FOR INSTANCE, SPENT
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THE WEEK TRYING TO RECONCILE HER
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POSITION THAT "WHEN YOU'RE
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TALKING ABOUT AN EMBRYO, YOU'RE
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TALKING ABOUT A LIFE," WITH WHAT
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THAT ACTUALLY MEANS IN LEGAL
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TERMS.
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MEANWHILE, WATCH AS ALABAMA
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SENATOR TOMMY TUBERVILLE SEEMED
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TO REALIZE THE PROBLEMS WITH HIS
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POSITION IN REAL TIME.
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DO YOU HAVE A REACTION TO THE
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ALABAMA SUPREME COURT RULING ON
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THE FACT THAT EMBRYOS ARE
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CHILDREN?
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YEAH, I WAS ALL FOR IT.
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WE NEED TO HAVE MORE KIDS.
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WE NEED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
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TO DO THAT.
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I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS THE
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RIGHT THING TO DO.
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BUT IVF IS USED TO HAVE MORE
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CHILDREN, AND RIGHT NOW IVF
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SERVICES ARE PAUSED AT SOME OF
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THE CLINICS IN ALABAMA.
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AREN'T YOU CONCERNED THAT THIS
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COULD IMPACT PEOPLE WHO ARE
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TRYING TO HAVE KIDS?
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WELL, THAT'S FOR-- THAT'S
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FOR ANOTHER CONVERSATION.
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SENATOR, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO
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WOMEN RIGHT NOW IN ALABAMA WHO
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CAN NO LONGER ACCESS IVF AND
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WILL NOT AS A RESULT OF THIS
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RULING?
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WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM?
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WELL, THAT'S A HARD ONE.
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IT REALLY IS.
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IT'S REALLY HARD.
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'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO
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HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
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AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING
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HER, WE NEED MORE KIDS.
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John: WELL, GUESS WHAT,
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TOMMY?
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I'VE GOT GREAT NEWS!
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SINCE YOUR POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY
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SEEMS TO BEGIN AND END WITH "WE
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NEED MORE KIDS," YOU'LL BE
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THRILLED TO KNOW THAT THANKS TO
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A JUDGE IN ALABAMA, THERE'S NOW
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WHOLE FREEZERS FULL OF THEM!
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GO PLAY WITH ALL THOSE FROSTY
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KIDS, SENATOR!
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OR MAYBE, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU
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HAD IN MIND WHEN YOU THINK OF
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CHILDREN, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE
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FUCKING POINT.
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REPUBLICANS ARE IN A TOUGH SPOT
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RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO HOLD ONTO
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HARDLINE ANTI-ABORTION FORCES,
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WHILE NOT ALIENATING THE
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MAJORITY OF AMERICANS.
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AND MAYBE, THE BEST EXAMPLE OF
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THAT RIGHT NOW HAS TO DO WITH
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AND MAY BECOME OF THE BEST
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EXAMPLE OF THIS IS DONALD TRUMP.
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HE ISSUED A STATEMENT THIS WEEK
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THAT HE STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE
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AVAILABILITY OF IVF FOR COUPLES
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WHO ARE TRYING TO HAVE A
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PRECIOUS BABY-- SOMETHING HE
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REFERRED TO AS "THE ULTIMATE JOY
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IN LIFE," ALL CAPS, EXCLAMATION
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MARK.
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AND IT'S INCREDIBLE HOW EVEN
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OBJECTIVELY WHOLESOME SENTENCES
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TAKE ON AN AIR OF CREEPINESS
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WHEN PASSED THROUGH THE CHAOTIC
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TRUMP PUNCTUATION FILTER.
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MEANWHILE, HE'S ALSO BEEN
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PRIVATELY FLOATING A FEDERAL BAN
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ON ABORTION AT THE 16-WEEK MARK,
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REPORTEDLY SAYING, "KNOW WHAT I
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LIKE ABOUT 16?"
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"IT'S EVEN.
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IT'S FOUR MONTHS."
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AND I WILL SAY-- STARTING ANY
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SENTENCE WITH "YOU KNOW WHAT I
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LIKE ABOUT 16," SHOULD BE OFF
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LIMITS FOR ANYONE WHO HAS THIS
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MANY PHOTOS WITH JEFFREY
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EPSTEIN.
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BUT WHILE TRUMP MIGHT THINK 16
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WEEKS IS THE REASONABLE OPTION
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WHICH IT ISN'T--
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ANTIABORTION FORCES ARE HOPING
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TO USE A SECOND TRUMP TERM TO GO
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MUCH, MUCH FURTHER.
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ONE TOOL THEY'RE APPARENTLY
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EAGER TO USE IS THE COMSTOCK
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ACT, AN 1873 LAW THAT
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CRIMINALIZES THE SHIPPING OF ANY
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MATERIALS USED IN AN ABORTION,
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INCLUDING ABORTION PILLS, WITH
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ONE OF TRUMP'S LAWYERS SAYING,
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"WE DON'T NEED A FEDERAL BAN
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WHEN WE HAVE COMSTOCK ON THE
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BOOKS."
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IT WAS ONE OF THE KEY PRETEXTS
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IN LAST YEAR'S MIFEPRISTONE
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RULING, AND LINDSEY GRAHAM
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ACTUALLY CITED COMSTOCK WHEN
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DEFENDING IT.
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THE IDEA OF MAILING THE
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DRUG-SENDING THE DRUG THROUGH
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THE MAIL RUNS INTO A STATUTE
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CALLED THE COMSTOCK ACT.
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IT'S A VERY OLD STATUTE ON
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THE BOOKS.
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DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE SUPREME
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COURT SHOULD USE THAT AS A WAY
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TO BAN THIS ABORTION PILL?
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WELL, I THINK IT'S A LAW ON
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THE BOOKS.
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John: LOOK, I GUESS IT'S NOT
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THAT SURPRISING THAT GRAHAM'S
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ENDORSEMENT OF A LAW BOILS DOWN
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TO "IT'S ON THE BOOKS," GIVEN
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THAT "IT'S OLD AND IT'S THERE"
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BASICALLY SUMS UP LINDSEY GRAHAM
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AT THIS POINT.
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HE SEEMS DETERMINED TO STAY IN
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THE SENATE UNTIL HE CAN COMPLETE
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HIS ANIMORPHS-STYLE
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TRANSFORMATION INTO BEAKER.
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AND, HE'S GETTING CLOSE.
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HE'S ONLY A COUPLE OF STEPS
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AWAY.
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BUT HE'S RIGHT: THE COMSTOCK ACT
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IS TECHNICALLY THERE, MEANING A
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TRUMP ADMINISTRATION-- OR THE
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JUDGES HE APPOINTS-- COULD TRY
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USING IT TO RESTRICT ABORTION
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WITHOUT GOING THROUGH CONGRESS.
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WHICH IS BOTH ALARMING, AND
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SOMETHING MANY PRO-LIFE FIGURES
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ARE ANXIOUS TO KEEP QUIET FOR
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NOW.
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THAT TRUMP LAWYER I MENTIONED
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EVEN SAID OF HIM, "I HOPE HE
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DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THE EXISTENCE
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OF COMSTOCK, BECAUSE I JUST
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DON'T WANT HIM TO SHOOT OFF HIS
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MOUTH."
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"I THINK THE PRO-LIFE GROUPS
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SHOULD KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT AS
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MUCH AS POSSIBLE UNTIL THE
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ELECTION."
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BUT WHENEVER THEY DON'T WANT TO
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TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, IT'S
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PROBABLY WORTH YOU KNOWING
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ABOUT.
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SO, FOR THE RECORD, THE COMSTOCK
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ACT IS NAMED AFTER ANTHONY
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COMSTOCK, A 19TH CENTURY
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ANTI-SEX CRUSADER AND POSTAL
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INSPECTOR WHO WAS, AND I QUOTE,
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"A CHRONIC MASTURBATOR WHO
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BELIEVED IT WAS PHYSICALLY
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HARMFUL, SO LAUNCHED A CRUSADE
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TO STAMP OUT THE TRANSMISSION
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AND TRANSPORTATION OF ALL
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OBSCENE MATERIAL."
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AND IMAGINE JERKING OFF SO MUCH
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YOU MAKE IT A MATTER OF NATIONAL
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SECURITY.
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THE COMSTOCK ACT FORBADE SENDING
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BY MAIL "EVERY OBSCENE, LEWD,
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LASCIVIOUS, INDECENT, FILTHY OR
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VILE ARTICLE, MATTER, THING,
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DEVICE, OR SUBSTANCE," AS WELL
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AS "EVERY ARTICLE OR THING
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DESIGNED, ADAPTED, OR INTENDED
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FOR PRODUCING ABORTION."
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THAT'S THE CLAUSE ABORTION
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OPPONENTS HAVE USED ON
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MIFEPRISTONE, AND THEY HOPE TO
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EXPAND IT TO COVER THE SHIPPING
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OF LITERALLY ANYTHING AN
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ABORTION REQUIRES.
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SO, THE COMSTOCK ACT IS A WILD
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LAW, PUSHED FOR BY A DEEPLY
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WEIRD, DANGEROUSLY HORNY MAN,
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THAT MAY SOON BE DETERMINING ALL
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OUR REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOMS.
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AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT
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COMSTOCK WAS ALSO A LEADER IN
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"THE NEW YORK SOCIETY FOR THE
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SUPPRESSION OF VICE," WHOSE SEAL
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FUN FACT-- DEPICTED SOMEONE
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BURNING BOOKS.
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WHICH, TO BE FAIR, CONSERVATIVES
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DON'T DO ANYMORE.
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AS WE ALL KNOW, THEY USE FLAME
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THROWERS NOW.
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AND THAT'S THE THING THAT TIES
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EVERYTHING I'VE TALKED ABOUT
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HERE TOGETHER-- THERE ARE
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POLITICIANS CURRENTLY
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DESPERATELY TRYING TO DISTANCE
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THEMSELVES FROM EXTREME POLICIES
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THEY'VE ENABLED.
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YOU CAN SAY "WE'RE NOT TRYING TO
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BAN OR BURN BOOKS," BUT THAT'S
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WHAT'S HAPPENING.
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YOU CAN SAY "WE JUST WANT MORE
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KIDS," BUT YOU'RE MAKING LIFE
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INCREDIBLY HARD FOR PEOPLE,
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INCLUDING THOSE WHO DESPERATELY
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WANT THEM.
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BURNING BOOKS AND ENDING IVF IS
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THE NATURAL ENDPOINT OF THE
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EXTREME POLICIES THEY'VE HELD
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HANDS WITH, AND IF THEY'RE NOT
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AT LEAST WILLING TO OWN THOSE
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CONSEQUENCES, THEN THEY CAN, IN
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THE WORDS OF WHAT I BELIEVE TO
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BE THIS COUNTRY'S GREATEST
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PUBLIC SPEAKER--
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EAT A BUTTHOLE.
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John: WELL SAID.
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AND NOW, THIS.
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Announcer: AND NOW, MORE
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EXPLICIT READINGS FROM CONCERNED
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CITIZENS AT PUBLIC MEETINGS.
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THE BOY TALK TO SOFT TO HER
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ABOUT HOW GOOD SHE LOOKED AND
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THINGS LIKE THAT, AND SHE
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GRABBED HIS PENIS WITH HER HANDS
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AND STARTED MOVING IT.
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IT FELT SO GOOD, SO FUCKING
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GOOD.
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I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE DON'T DO
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ANYTHING BUT HAVE SEX IF THEY
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AREN'T ADULTS OR HAVE PARENTS.
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ON TOP OF THE VALENCIA WHILE
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MAKING LOVE TO WORK, BILLY MADE
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A NOISE LIKE A SMALL, RUSTY
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HINGE PARAKEET ENTERED HIS
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SEMINAL VESICLES INTO HER.
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I HAD SUCKED MY PAIR OF
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DICK'S, GIVEN HAND JOBS AND
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JOBS, BLOW JOBS, BUT THE ONLY
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BOOK BUT SEX I HAD WAS THIS
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JUNIOR WHO--
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AND I PULL AND I SUCK UNTIL
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HE GROANS AND MAKE SOUNDS, AND I
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KEEP GOING AND GOING.
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AND WHEN HE SAYS "I'M GOING TO
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CUM, I DON'T PULL AWAY.
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SALLE--
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IT TASTES LIKE THICK SWEAT.
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YOU CAN PULL OUT OR FUCK HER
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TOO HARD.
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MY ONLY CHALLENGE WAS BRIAN
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WHO WAS MY JERICHO FRIEND WHO
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LIKES TO JERK ME OFF.
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I HAVE 20 PUSSIES HERE THAT I
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HAVE TWO NEAT.
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I'M ON PUSSY DEADLINE.
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IT'S WHICH IS.
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IT'S ALL SO FUCKING COMPLICATED.
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I JUST WANT TO MENTION, I'VE
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NEVER SAID THE F-WORD EVER IN MY
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LIFE BEFORE UNTIL JUST NOW.
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[LAUGHTER]
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PLUS TICK
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John: MOVING ON.
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OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS
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THE INTERNET.
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IT CAN BE A MAGICAL PLACE, BUT
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ALSO ONE WHERE THINGS AREN'T
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ALWAYS WHAT THEY SEEM-- AS THIS
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WOMAN LEARNED THE HARD WAY.
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QUEEN SHAYDONNA HAYNESWORTH
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THOUGHT SHE BOUGHT THIS: THE
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INSTAGRAM AD DISPLAYING A TREE
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THAT FITS IN A LIVING ROOM, NOT
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THE PALM OF HER HAND.
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YOOOOO!
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THIS IS A RAINBOW CHRISTMAS
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TREE?
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LIKE, SERIOUSLY?
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LIKE, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
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THIS?
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John: YEAH, IT MUST'VE BEEN
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PRETTY DISAPPOINTING, TO ORDER A
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FULL-SIZE TREE AND GET WHATEVER
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THAT IS.
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SHE MUST'VE FELT LIKE HBO DID
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WHEN THEY ORDERED A COMEDY SHOW
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AND GOT THIS INSTEAD.
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UNFORTUNATELY, NOT EVERY MISTAKE
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IS THAT BENIGN.
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IT'S NOT NEWS THAT THERE ARE
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SCAMMERS ON THE INTERNET, BUT
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YOU MAY'VE NOTICED, ONE SCAM IN
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PARTICULAR IS CURRENTLY
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EVERYWHERE.
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A COMMON WAY IT STARTS IS WITH A
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WEIRD TEXT FROM A NUMBER YOU
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DON'T RECOGNIZE, LIKE, "CHERYL,
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CAN WE MOVE LUNCH TO 5:00?"
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WHEN YOU'RE NOT CHERYL.
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OR "DAVE, WHAT TIME IS OUR
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FLIGHT?"
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WHEN YOU'RE NOT DAVE AND YOU
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DON'T HAVE A FLIGHT BOOKED.
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EVEN AS WE WORKED ON THIS PIECE,
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MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF AND THEIR
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FRIENDS WERE GETTING THESE
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MESSAGES, FROM "HELLO IS THIS
516
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THE MANAGER JESSE FROM THE
517
00:13:52,966 --> 00:13:53,833
FLOWER SHOP?"
518
00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:54,600
TO THIS ONE, READING, "IS THIS
519
00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,000
DR. JOHN?
520
00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:56,900
I'M EMILY, IS MY HORSE
521
00:13:56,900 --> 00:14:00,066
RECOVERING WELL?"
522
00:14:00,066 --> 00:14:01,033
AND I'M GLAD THAT WASN'T SENT TO
523
00:14:01,033 --> 00:14:02,466
ME, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE
524
00:14:02,466 --> 00:14:03,900
WORKED.
525
00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:06,433
YOU'RE CALLING ME DOCTOR JOHN?
526
00:14:06,433 --> 00:14:07,800
INSTANTLY ON BOARD.
527
00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:08,800
AND YOU'RE ASSUMING I'M AROUND A
528
00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:10,100
HORSE FOR MEDICAL REASONS?
529
00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:11,166
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN
530
00:14:11,166 --> 00:14:12,300
SAYING!
531
00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:13,033
I'M ALLOWED TO TOUCH IT LIKE
532
00:14:13,033 --> 00:14:14,633
THAT.
533
00:14:14,633 --> 00:14:16,800
I'M A DOCTOR!
534
00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:17,400
AND I KNOW MOST PEOPLE IGNORE
535
00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,000
MESSAGES LIKE THOSE.
536
00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,600
BUT SOME WRITE BACK, GET SUCKED
537
00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:22,800
INTO A CONVERSATION AND
538
00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:23,900
EVENTUALLY-- THROUGH A PROCESS
539
00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:26,066
WE'LL GET INTO-- CAN END UP
540
00:14:26,066 --> 00:14:26,766
LOSING A LOT OF MONEY.
541
00:14:26,766 --> 00:14:28,000
IT'S A SCAM WITH A STRIKING NAME
542
00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,600
THAT NEWSCASTERS CAN'T SEEM TO
543
00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,766
GET OVER.
544
00:14:31,766 --> 00:14:32,666
IT'S CALLED A PIG BUTCHERING
545
00:14:32,666 --> 00:14:33,900
SCAM.
546
00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:35,133
AND IT MIGHT SOUND LIKE A
547
00:14:35,133 --> 00:14:36,333
GRUESOME NAME, BUT THAT'S
548
00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:38,000
BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
549
00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,233
VICTIMS ARE LOSING IS PAINFUL.
550
00:14:40,333 --> 00:14:42,300
THE SCAMMERS HAVE A TERRIBLE
551
00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:42,833
TERM FOR WHAT WENDY WENT
552
00:14:42,833 --> 00:14:43,833
THROUGH.
553
00:14:43,833 --> 00:14:46,066
THEY CALL IT PIG BUTCHERING.
554
00:14:46,066 --> 00:14:46,833
THE NEW MEXICO SECURITIES
555
00:14:46,833 --> 00:14:47,566
DIVISION CALLS THEM "PIG
556
00:14:47,566 --> 00:14:49,800
BUTCHERING SCAMS."
557
00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,200
I KNOW, BUT LISTEN, DON'T WORRY,
558
00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,400
THERE ARE NO PIGS OR ANY OTHER
559
00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,700
ANIMALS INVOLVED.
560
00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:56,766
John: YES, DON'T WORRY, THERE
561
00:14:56,766 --> 00:14:58,066
ARE NO PIGS HARMED IN "THIS" PIG
562
00:14:58,066 --> 00:14:58,433
BUTCHERING SCAM.
563
00:14:58,433 --> 00:14:59,366
ALTHOUGH, IF THE WORDS DO MAKE
564
00:14:59,366 --> 00:15:00,933
YOU SQUEAMISH, IT'S WORTH NOTING
565
00:15:00,933 --> 00:15:01,500
THAT THAT THERE IS A PROCESS
566
00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:02,566
THROUGH WHICH PIGS ARE HARMED
567
00:15:02,566 --> 00:15:03,766
EVERY DAY.
568
00:15:03,766 --> 00:15:06,333
IT'S ACTUALLY HOW WE GET BACON,
569
00:15:06,333 --> 00:15:06,833
PORK AND OTHER PRODUCTS.
570
00:15:06,833 --> 00:15:08,266
IT'S CALLED PIG BUTCHERING, AND
571
00:15:08,266 --> 00:15:08,833
IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS
572
00:15:08,833 --> 00:15:10,100
LIKE.
573
00:15:10,100 --> 00:15:11,266
BUT THE NAME MAKES A LITTLE MORE
574
00:15:11,266 --> 00:15:12,800
SENSE, ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW
575
00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,700
THE SCAM ACTUALLY WORKS.
576
00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,966
IN THE WORLD OF CYBER AND
577
00:15:16,966 --> 00:15:18,566
COUNTERTERRORISM THREATS.
578
00:15:18,566 --> 00:15:19,200
SPECIAL AGENT HASSANI HAS SEEN
579
00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,766
IT ALL.
580
00:15:21,766 --> 00:15:23,366
BUT IN 2021, HE BEGAN SEEING A
581
00:15:23,366 --> 00:15:26,600
NEW SCAM: PIG BUTCHERING.
582
00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,466
BUT IT JUST REFERS TO RAISING
583
00:15:28,466 --> 00:15:29,566
LITTLE PIGLETS, FATTENING THEM
584
00:15:29,566 --> 00:15:32,666
UP, AND BUTCHERING THEM.
585
00:15:32,666 --> 00:15:35,000
AND THEY'RE FATTENING UP THEIR
586
00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,266
VICTIM WITH ILLUSIONS OF
587
00:15:36,266 --> 00:15:38,400
GRANDEUR, OF WEALTH, OF LOVE,
588
00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,266
BEFORE BLEEDING THEM DRY.
589
00:15:41,266 --> 00:15:42,666
John: THAT'S ROUGH.
590
00:15:42,666 --> 00:15:43,533
BECAUSE IMAGINE BEING A VICTIM
591
00:15:43,533 --> 00:15:45,266
OF THIS SCAM, TURNING ON THE
592
00:15:45,266 --> 00:15:46,566
NEWS AND SUDDENLY LEARNING THE
593
00:15:46,666 --> 00:15:50,066
SHORTHAND FOR PEOPLE IN YOUR
594
00:15:50,066 --> 00:15:50,566
SITUATION IS "THE PIGS."
595
00:15:50,566 --> 00:15:51,200
ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY-- IT COULD
596
00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,500
BE WORSE.
597
00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:53,766
PIGS ARE AWESOME!
598
00:15:53,766 --> 00:15:55,200
THEY'RE ONE OF THE MOST
599
00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:55,900
INTELLIGENT ANIMALS ON THE
600
00:15:55,900 --> 00:15:57,366
PLANET.
601
00:15:57,366 --> 00:15:58,633
THEY'RE SMARTER THAN DOGS, MOST
602
00:15:58,633 --> 00:16:00,233
3-YEAR-OLDS, AND TOM SANDOVAL.
603
00:16:00,233 --> 00:16:01,166
TO USE A PHRASE THE POLICE NEVER
604
00:16:01,166 --> 00:16:02,600
SEEM TO APPRECIATE: IT'S
605
00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,100
ACTUALLY AN HONOR TO BE COMPARED
606
00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:04,966
TO A PIG!
607
00:16:04,966 --> 00:16:06,966
AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, "THIS
608
00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:07,533
SEEMS LIKE THE KIND OF SCAM
609
00:16:07,533 --> 00:16:09,333
THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES."
610
00:16:09,333 --> 00:16:10,533
THAT'S PARTIALLY TRUE, BUT THE
611
00:16:10,533 --> 00:16:12,033
WAY THIS ONE WORKS IS FAIRLY
612
00:16:12,033 --> 00:16:13,466
NEW.
613
00:16:13,466 --> 00:16:14,400
AND IN THE SHORT TIME IT'S BEEN
614
00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,866
AROUND, IT'S BEEN MASSIVELY
615
00:16:15,866 --> 00:16:17,166
SUCCESSFUL.
616
00:16:17,166 --> 00:16:18,500
JUST THIS MONTH, IT WAS AT THE
617
00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:19,366
CENTER OF A HUGE LOCAL NEWS
618
00:16:19,366 --> 00:16:22,100
STORY IN KANSAS, WHERE IT
619
00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:22,633
BROUGHT DOWN A FINANCIAL
620
00:16:22,633 --> 00:16:23,366
INSTITUTION.
621
00:16:23,366 --> 00:16:24,766
I WAS SURPRISED.
622
00:16:24,766 --> 00:16:25,966
I WAS SHOCKED.
623
00:16:25,966 --> 00:16:26,833
I WAS DISAPPOINTED.
624
00:16:26,833 --> 00:16:29,000
KANSAS STATE BANK
625
00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:29,600
COMMISSIONER DAVID HERNDON IS
626
00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,933
TALKING ABOUT THE MASSIVE
627
00:16:30,933 --> 00:16:32,666
CRYPTOCURRENCY SCAM AT THE
628
00:16:32,666 --> 00:16:35,033
HEARTLAND TRI-STATE BANK IN
629
00:16:35,033 --> 00:16:35,266
ELKHART.
630
00:16:35,266 --> 00:16:38,133
IN A CRYPTOCURRENCY SCHEME
631
00:16:38,133 --> 00:16:40,766
THAT THE FBI HAS NOW REFERRED TO
632
00:16:40,766 --> 00:16:42,033
AS PIG BUTCHERING.
633
00:16:42,033 --> 00:16:44,566
IN THIS CASE, HERNDON SAYS,
634
00:16:44,566 --> 00:16:46,366
THE VICTIM WAS SHAN HANES, THE
635
00:16:46,366 --> 00:16:48,633
BANK'S OWN CEO.
636
00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:50,333
AND HE'S NOW FACING CHARGES OF
637
00:16:50,333 --> 00:16:53,500
EMBEZZLING NEARLY $50 MILLION, A
638
00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:55,466
LOSS THAT CAUSED THE BANK TO
639
00:16:55,566 --> 00:16:58,933
FAIL LAST AUGUST.
640
00:16:58,933 --> 00:17:00,466
John: IT'S TRUE.
641
00:17:00,466 --> 00:17:01,100
ACCORDING TO PROSECUTORS, A BANK
642
00:17:01,100 --> 00:17:02,300
CEO GOT PIG-BUTCHERED, SENT HIS
643
00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:02,933
SCAMMER THE BANK'S HOLDINGS, AND
644
00:17:02,933 --> 00:17:04,333
THE BANK WENT UNDER.
645
00:17:04,333 --> 00:17:05,266
WHICH IS ALARMING FOR SEVERAL
646
00:17:05,266 --> 00:17:10,333
REASONS, AMONG THEM-- IS THAT
647
00:17:10,333 --> 00:17:11,600
HOW BANKS WORK?
648
00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,400
BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE THERE
649
00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,200
SHOULD BE AT LEAST ONE STEP
650
00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,400
BETWEEN "CEO GETS TRICKED" AND
651
00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,566
"WHOOPS, THE BANK'S EMPTY."
652
00:17:17,566 --> 00:17:19,333
IT'S ESTIMATED THAT, AS OF 2022,
653
00:17:19,333 --> 00:17:20,266
THIS SCAM WAS TAKING PEOPLE FOR
654
00:17:20,266 --> 00:17:22,400
MORE THAN $3 BILLION A YEAR IN
655
00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,433
THE US ALONE.
656
00:17:24,433 --> 00:17:25,400
AND THAT'S ALMOST CERTAINLY A
657
00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,200
MASSIVE UNDERCOUNT, AS IT ONLY
658
00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:28,166
INCLUDES PEOPLE WHO REPORTED
659
00:17:28,266 --> 00:17:31,033
THEIR LOSSES TO THE FBI.
660
00:17:31,033 --> 00:17:32,866
SO GIVEN ALL THAT, TONIGHT,
661
00:17:32,866 --> 00:17:34,800
LET'S TALK ABOUT PIG BUTCHERING:
662
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,033
WHY IT'S EASIER TO FALL FOR THAN
663
00:17:36,033 --> 00:17:36,633
YOU MIGHT THINK, WHO'S BEHIND
664
00:17:36,633 --> 00:17:38,900
IT, AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO
665
00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:41,066
PROTECT OURSELVES AND OUR LIKED
666
00:17:41,066 --> 00:17:41,700
ONES FROM GETTING SCAMMED IN THE
667
00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:43,300
FUTURE.
668
00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:44,800
AND LET'S START WITH WHERE THIS
669
00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:45,433
BEGAN.
670
00:17:45,433 --> 00:17:46,466
AND TO DO THAT, UNFORTUNATELY,
671
00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:48,033
WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE PLACE
672
00:17:48,033 --> 00:17:50,200
NO ONE WANTS TO GO: THE
673
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:50,633
BEGINNING OF COVID.
674
00:17:50,633 --> 00:17:52,800
YOU REMEMBER COVID.
675
00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:53,333
IT'S THE STEPHEN MILLER OF
676
00:17:53,333 --> 00:17:54,700
DISEASES, IN THAT WE WERE ALL
677
00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:55,766
WORRIED ABOUT IT A FEW YEARS AGO
678
00:17:55,766 --> 00:17:57,500
AND HAVE SINCE MOVED ON, EVEN
679
00:17:57,500 --> 00:17:59,766
THOUGH IT IS STILL VERY
680
00:17:59,766 --> 00:18:02,066
DANGEROUS.
681
00:18:02,166 --> 00:18:02,666
BUT THAT'S WHEN PIG BUTCHERING
682
00:18:02,766 --> 00:18:04,333
TOOK OFF.
683
00:18:04,333 --> 00:18:04,900
BASICALLY, AT THE START OF
684
00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:05,633
COVID, MANY OF US WERE ISOLATED
685
00:18:05,633 --> 00:18:07,100
AND LONELY, DESPERATELY LOOKING
686
00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:08,766
FOR HUMAN CONTACT ONLINE--
687
00:18:08,766 --> 00:18:10,400
WHICH MADE US RIPE TARGETS.
688
00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,000
AT THE SAME TIME, ORGANIZED
689
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,333
CRIME GROUPS IN CHINA, RUNNING
690
00:18:14,333 --> 00:18:15,733
CASINOS IN SOUTHEAST ASIA, WERE
691
00:18:15,733 --> 00:18:17,366
IN CRISIS, AS-- THANKS TO THE
692
00:18:17,366 --> 00:18:19,000
PANDEMIC-- GAMBLERS WEREN'T
693
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,000
SHOWING UP.
694
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:22,600
SO, THEY TURNED THOSE CASINOS
695
00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,666
INTO BASES FOR ONLINE SCAM
696
00:18:24,666 --> 00:18:26,133
OPERATIONS.
697
00:18:26,133 --> 00:18:26,733
AND FROM THERE, THEIR WORKERS
698
00:18:26,733 --> 00:18:28,166
IDENTIFIED PEOPLE AND PREYED ON
699
00:18:28,166 --> 00:18:30,566
THEIR VULNERABILITIES.
700
00:18:30,566 --> 00:18:31,366
AND LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH THE
701
00:18:31,366 --> 00:18:32,533
STEPS.
702
00:18:32,533 --> 00:18:33,133
THE FIRST IS TO MAKE CONTACT,
703
00:18:33,133 --> 00:18:35,000
AND LURE YOUR TARGET IN.
704
00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:37,433
LISTEN TO THIS WOMAN EXPLAIN HOW
705
00:18:37,433 --> 00:18:38,066
HER SCAMMER, WHO CALLED HIMSELF
706
00:18:38,066 --> 00:18:39,533
"JIMMY," CONTACTED HER AT A
707
00:18:39,533 --> 00:18:40,833
MOMENT WHEN SHE WAS DEALING WITH
708
00:18:40,833 --> 00:18:42,200
CANCER, THE PANDEMIC, AND THE
709
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,500
END OF HER MARRIAGE.
710
00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:45,633
FIRST MESSAGE, IT CAME AS A
711
00:18:45,633 --> 00:18:52,700
VERY INNOCENT MESSAGE.
712
00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:57,233
IS!
713
00:19:01,466 --> 00:19:04,366
I SAID, "WRONG NUMBER."
714
00:19:04,366 --> 00:19:06,833
HE CAME BACK, "YOU LOOK CHINESE.
715
00:19:06,933 --> 00:19:08,533
ARE YOU CHINESE?"
716
00:19:08,633 --> 00:19:10,166
AND I SAID YES.
717
00:19:10,166 --> 00:19:11,166
HE HAD MOVED HERE JUST BEFORE
718
00:19:11,166 --> 00:19:12,166
COVID, AND THEN COVID HIT, AND
719
00:19:12,166 --> 00:19:15,633
SO HE'S NOT ABLE TO GO HOME.
720
00:19:15,633 --> 00:19:20,333
HE WAS A LONELY MAN IN NEED OF
721
00:19:20,333 --> 00:19:27,400
COMFORT.
722
00:19:27,666 --> 00:19:29,833
JIMMY WOULD MESSAGE ME EVERY
723
00:19:29,833 --> 00:19:30,000
DAY.
724
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:30,600
I DO REMEMBER RECEIVING THESE
725
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:36,733
EMOJIS WITH HEARTS.
726
00:19:36,733 --> 00:19:38,633
♪ ♪
727
00:19:38,633 --> 00:19:40,966
[HEART BEATING]
728
00:19:41,066 --> 00:19:41,566
IT'S QUITE FLATTERING FOR A
729
00:19:41,566 --> 00:19:42,566
MIDDLE-AGED WOMAN TO MEET A
730
00:19:42,666 --> 00:19:44,466
YOUNG MAN WHO FINDS YOU
731
00:19:44,466 --> 00:19:45,733
ATTRACTIVE.
732
00:19:45,733 --> 00:19:46,666
John: YEAH, OF COURSE THAT'S
733
00:19:46,666 --> 00:19:48,033
FLATTERING.
734
00:19:48,033 --> 00:19:50,000
BECAUSE SCAMMERS ARE TELLING
735
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,633
THEIR TARGETS WHAT THEY WANT TO
736
00:19:50,633 --> 00:19:51,366
HEAR MOST IN THAT MOMENT.
737
00:19:51,366 --> 00:19:52,366
WE MIGHT NOT "ALL" FALL FOR A
738
00:19:52,366 --> 00:19:53,900
GIF OF A HEART-PUMPING EMOJI,
739
00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:55,500
BUT IF SOMEONE SENT "ME" "NERD
740
00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:56,666
WITH GLASSES" PLUS "FOOTBALL"
741
00:19:56,666 --> 00:19:57,666
PLUS "LEARNING" PLUS "SAD
742
00:19:57,666 --> 00:19:59,233
STATISTICS" = "FIRE EMOJI," ME
743
00:19:59,233 --> 00:20:02,233
PERSONALLY?
744
00:20:02,233 --> 00:20:05,866
WHY, I WOULD NUT!
745
00:20:05,866 --> 00:20:07,133
AND LOOK: ONE WAY OF MAKING
746
00:20:07,133 --> 00:20:09,300
CONTACT IS THROUGH THOSE "WRONG
747
00:20:09,300 --> 00:20:10,333
NUMBER" TEXTS.
748
00:20:10,333 --> 00:20:11,233
BUT EXPERTS WE'VE TALKED TO
749
00:20:11,233 --> 00:20:12,733
ESTIMATE THEY ONLY MAKE UP ABOUT
750
00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:14,766
A QUARTER OF THE INITIAL
751
00:20:14,866 --> 00:20:17,333
CONTACTS FOR THIS SCAM.
752
00:20:17,333 --> 00:20:18,266
THE REST CAN COME THROUGH SITES
753
00:20:18,266 --> 00:20:21,533
LIKE LINKEDIN, DATING APPS,
754
00:20:21,533 --> 00:20:22,833
INSTAGRAM OR FACEBOOK-- PLACES
755
00:20:22,833 --> 00:20:24,600
SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR YOU TO
756
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,266
MEET PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW,
757
00:20:26,266 --> 00:20:27,733
EITHER FOR LOVE, A HOOK UP OR,
758
00:20:27,733 --> 00:20:29,500
IN THE CASE OF LINKEDIN, TO FIND
759
00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:32,600
OUT WHAT KIND OF PERSON IS
760
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,166
"STILL" ON FUCKING LINKEDIN.
761
00:20:33,166 --> 00:20:34,033
AND SCAMMERS OFTEN RESEARCH
762
00:20:34,033 --> 00:20:35,433
THEIR TARGET USING SOCIAL MEDIA
763
00:20:35,433 --> 00:20:36,600
WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF
764
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,300
INFORMATION ON PEOPLE-- SO THEY
765
00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:39,066
CAN PRETEND TO HAVE SOMETHING IN
766
00:20:39,066 --> 00:20:40,766
COMMON.
767
00:20:40,766 --> 00:20:41,400
TAKE THIS WOMAN, WHO MET SOMEONE
768
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,566
ON A DATING APP, ONLY TO
769
00:20:42,566 --> 00:20:44,000
DISCOVER THEY SHARED AN
770
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,633
UNEXPECTED CONNECTION.
771
00:20:45,633 --> 00:20:47,400
HE STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS
772
00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:48,866
ABOUT MY FAMILY AND MY PAST
773
00:20:48,966 --> 00:20:50,300
EXPERIENCES.
774
00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:51,066
IT WAS A CONNECTION THAT FELT
775
00:20:51,066 --> 00:20:53,400
EVEN STRONGER, SHE SAYS, WHEN HE
776
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,000
TOLD HER HE CAME FROM THE SAME
777
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,366
TOWN IN CHINA FROM WHERE
778
00:20:55,366 --> 00:20:57,300
HUTCHINSON WAS ADOPTED.
779
00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:59,200
WE KIND OF BONDED OVER THAT.
780
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,766
John: YEAH, I BET THEY DID!
781
00:21:00,766 --> 00:21:02,466
AND I'VE GOT TO SAY, IT SAYS
782
00:21:02,466 --> 00:21:03,066
SOMETHING ABOUT MEN ON DATING
783
00:21:03,066 --> 00:21:03,766
APPS THAT THEY CONNECTED SO
784
00:21:03,766 --> 00:21:05,533
WELL, SIMPLY BECAUSE HE DID
785
00:21:05,533 --> 00:21:06,833
THINGS LIKE "ASK HER QUESTIONS
786
00:21:06,833 --> 00:21:08,100
ABOUT HERSELF" AND "LISTEN TO
787
00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,066
HER RESPONSES."
788
00:21:10,066 --> 00:21:10,966
I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE BAR FOR
789
00:21:10,966 --> 00:21:12,533
MEN IS LOW, BUT THAT STORY
790
00:21:12,533 --> 00:21:14,000
STARTED WITH HIM ASKING HER
791
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,433
QUESTIONS ABOUT HER LIFE AND
792
00:21:15,433 --> 00:21:16,933
ENDS WITH HER "GIVING HIM ALL OF
793
00:21:16,933 --> 00:21:18,600
HER MONEY."
794
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,833
BUT REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY
795
00:21:19,833 --> 00:21:22,533
START, SOONER OR LATER, WE MOVE
796
00:21:22,633 --> 00:21:23,133
ON TO STEP TWO: TURNING THE
797
00:21:23,133 --> 00:21:25,066
CONVERSATION TOWARD MONEY.
798
00:21:25,066 --> 00:21:26,000
BUT EVEN THEN, THERE'S A SMART
799
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,133
TWIST.
800
00:21:28,133 --> 00:21:29,400
BECAUSE YOU WON'T BE SUDDENLY
801
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,100
ASKED TO WIRE MONEY TO A
802
00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:33,433
NIGERIAN PRINCE WITH AN
803
00:21:33,433 --> 00:21:36,733
OBVIOUSLY FAKE EMAIL LIKE "REAL
804
00:21:36,733 --> 00:21:38,533
PRINCE SPELLED WITH A ONE
805
00:21:38,533 --> 00:21:39,100
INSTEAD OF AN I AT SCUM DOT
806
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:41,000
FARTS."
807
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,966
WITH PIG BUTCHERING, THERE'S NO
808
00:21:41,966 --> 00:21:43,766
DIRECT ASK FOR MONEY AT ALL.
809
00:21:43,766 --> 00:21:45,100
INSTEAD, AN OPPORTUNITY GETS
810
00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:47,000
PRESENTED.
811
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,600
WATCH AS THIS MAN EXPLAINS THE
812
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,566
MOMENT WHEN A GUY HE MET ON A
813
00:21:49,566 --> 00:21:50,200
DATING SITE STARTED TO REEL HIM
814
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,233
IN.
815
00:21:51,233 --> 00:21:52,066
HE SPENT AT LEAST A MONTH
816
00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:53,300
DAILY TALKING TO ME AND
817
00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:53,866
CULTIVATING MY FRIENDSHIP.
818
00:21:53,866 --> 00:21:55,566
INITIALLY, THE ONLY TALK
819
00:21:55,666 --> 00:21:57,800
ABOUT MONEY WAS HOW MUCH HIS NEW
820
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,200
ONLINE FRIEND HAD MADE IN
821
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,333
CRYPTO.
822
00:22:01,333 --> 00:22:02,633
AFTER ALL, SCOTT THOUGHT HE KNEW
823
00:22:02,633 --> 00:22:03,600
HOW TO PROTECT HIMSELF FROM
824
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,066
SCAMS.
825
00:22:05,066 --> 00:22:07,000
YOU CAN INVEST WITH ME AND
826
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,833
I'LL MAKE YOU ALL THIS MONEY AND
827
00:22:11,833 --> 00:22:14,533
I WAS LIKE "I'M NOT GIVING YOU
828
00:22:14,533 --> 00:22:17,600
MONEY, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING."
829
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,333
SO THAT'S WHEN HE STARTED, "NO,
830
00:22:18,333 --> 00:22:20,566
YOU DON'T GIVE IT TO ME.
831
00:22:20,566 --> 00:22:22,100
YOU ESTABLISH YOUR OWN ACCOUNT
832
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:23,566
AND I'LL GUIDE YOU."
833
00:22:23,566 --> 00:22:25,233
John: RIGHT.
834
00:22:25,233 --> 00:22:25,866
THAT'S THE CLEVER HOOK HERE--
835
00:22:25,866 --> 00:22:26,466
YOU'RE NOT SENDING THE SCAMMER
836
00:22:26,466 --> 00:22:27,266
MONEY.
837
00:22:27,266 --> 00:22:28,466
THEY'RE HELPING YOU SET UP AND
838
00:22:28,566 --> 00:22:29,600
CONTROL YOUR OWN ACCOUNT.
839
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,500
AND EVERYTHING SEEMS MORE
840
00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:32,733
LEGITIMATE WHEN THERE'S AN APP
841
00:22:32,733 --> 00:22:33,766
INVOLVED.
842
00:22:33,766 --> 00:22:34,700
YOU DON'T THINK SO?
843
00:22:34,700 --> 00:22:35,566
WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU TOOK AN
844
00:22:35,566 --> 00:22:36,933
UBER?
845
00:22:36,933 --> 00:22:38,133
GET IN A NONDESCRIPT CAR WITH
846
00:22:38,133 --> 00:22:38,633
SOMEONE I'VE NEVER MET?
847
00:22:38,633 --> 00:22:39,233
I'D NEVER DO THAT!
848
00:22:39,233 --> 00:22:40,566
BUT WAIT-- WHAT'S THIS?
849
00:22:40,566 --> 00:22:41,666
I CAN DO IT FROM MY PHONE?
850
00:22:41,666 --> 00:22:42,600
IN THAT CASE, HERE IS MY
851
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,833
ADDRESS, NOW YOU KNOW WHERE I
852
00:22:43,833 --> 00:22:44,433
LIVE AND THAT I WON'T BE HOME
853
00:22:44,433 --> 00:22:45,633
FOR THE EVENING.
854
00:22:45,633 --> 00:22:46,566
MY NAME IS JOHN, I DON'T KNOW
855
00:22:46,566 --> 00:22:47,666
YOUR LAST NAME BUT THAT DOESN'T
856
00:22:47,666 --> 00:22:49,033
MATTER, BECAUSE I'M ALSO NOT
857
00:22:49,033 --> 00:22:50,633
COMMITTING YOUR FACE TO MEMORY.
858
00:22:50,633 --> 00:22:51,233
EVERYTHING'S SAFE, THERE'S AN
859
00:22:51,233 --> 00:22:53,066
APP INVOLVED.
860
00:22:53,066 --> 00:22:53,666
AND THE FACT THE INVESTMENT IS
861
00:22:53,666 --> 00:22:55,000
OFTEN IN CRYPTO CAN BE
862
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,166
PERSUASIVE FOR MULTIPLE REASONS:
863
00:22:57,166 --> 00:22:57,733
FIRST, WHO REALLY KNOWS HOW
864
00:22:57,733 --> 00:22:58,966
CRYPTO WORKS?
865
00:22:58,966 --> 00:22:59,500
I KNOW YOUR FRIEND'S WEIRD
866
00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:02,033
HUSBAND CLAIMS HE DOES, BUT HE
867
00:23:02,133 --> 00:23:02,666
SUCKS TO TALK TO, SO SADLY, IT
868
00:23:02,666 --> 00:23:03,933
MUST REMAIN A MYSTERY.
869
00:23:03,933 --> 00:23:05,666
BUT PEOPLE HAVE MADE MONEY ON
870
00:23:05,666 --> 00:23:07,200
CRYPTO, SO IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE
871
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,166
TO THINK YOU MIGHT MEET ONE OF
872
00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:10,400
THEM AND THEY COULD GIVE YOU
873
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,266
SOME TIPS.
874
00:23:11,266 --> 00:23:12,500
ON TOP OF WHICH, YOU MAY NOT BE
875
00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:14,233
SUPER-FAMILIAR WITH HOW A
876
00:23:14,233 --> 00:23:15,933
TRADING PLATFORM OPERATES OR
877
00:23:15,933 --> 00:23:18,000
EVEN WHAT ONE LOOKS LIKE.
878
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,000
AND SCAMMERS HAVE CREATED
879
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,466
INCREDIBLY PLAUSIBLE-LOOKING
880
00:23:22,466 --> 00:23:25,566
APPS.
881
00:23:25,566 --> 00:23:26,133
WE GOT THIS FOOTAGE OF ONE,
882
00:23:26,133 --> 00:23:27,400
WHICH SEEMS TO HAVE ALL THE
883
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,466
DETAIL AND FUNCTIONALITY OF A
884
00:23:28,466 --> 00:23:29,633
REAL APP, AND I'LL BE HONEST, I
885
00:23:29,633 --> 00:23:31,133
COULD BE FOOLED BY THAT.
886
00:23:31,133 --> 00:23:32,633
ALSO, SOME SCAMMERS USE
887
00:23:32,633 --> 00:23:34,033
LEGITIMATE APPS THAT ALLOW
888
00:23:34,133 --> 00:23:35,466
ANYONE TO BUILD A TRADING
889
00:23:35,566 --> 00:23:36,933
EXCHANGE.
890
00:23:36,933 --> 00:23:37,566
THE PROBLEM IS, THERE ARE TOOLS
891
00:23:37,566 --> 00:23:38,733
SCAMMERS CAN USE TO SIMULATE
892
00:23:38,733 --> 00:23:40,133
FAKE RESULTS ON THOSE APPS,
893
00:23:40,133 --> 00:23:41,266
WHILE TAKING YOUR MONEY.
894
00:23:41,266 --> 00:23:42,833
WATCH THIS JOURNALIST EXPLAIN
895
00:23:42,833 --> 00:23:45,066
HOW THIS GAVE ONE VICTIM FALSE
896
00:23:45,066 --> 00:23:46,166
CONFIDENCE.
897
00:23:46,166 --> 00:23:46,800
IN METATRADER, IT LOOKS JUST
898
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,466
LIKE ANY KIND OF NORMAL TRADING
899
00:23:48,466 --> 00:23:52,033
INTERFACE THAT ONE WOULD USE.
900
00:23:52,033 --> 00:23:52,633
IT'S AVAILABLE IN THE GOOGLE
901
00:23:52,633 --> 00:23:53,900
PLAY STORE.
902
00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:54,700
IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE APPLE APP
903
00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:56,633
STORE.
904
00:23:56,633 --> 00:23:57,233
IT'S AN APP THAT HAS A LOT OF
905
00:23:57,233 --> 00:23:58,800
GOOD RATINGS, AND THAT WAS ONE
906
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,000
OF THE THINGS THAT MADE CY THINK
907
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,333
THAT THIS WHOLE OPERATION WAS
908
00:24:02,333 --> 00:24:02,633
LEGITIMATE.
909
00:24:02,633 --> 00:24:04,666
HE BELIEVED THAT HIS INVESTMENT
910
00:24:04,666 --> 00:24:06,233
WAS MAKING MONEY.
911
00:24:06,233 --> 00:24:07,000
IF YOU'RE TRADING ON A
912
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,966
LEGITIMATE TRADING INTERFACE,
913
00:24:09,066 --> 00:24:10,100
RIGHT, YOU SEE THE PROFITS AND
914
00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:11,900
LOSSES OVER TIME.
915
00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:14,500
AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAW.
916
00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:14,866
John: RIGHT.
917
00:24:14,866 --> 00:24:17,166
IF YOUR FRIEND TOLD YOU TO
918
00:24:17,166 --> 00:24:17,800
DOWNLOAD AN APP, AND YOU SAW IT
919
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,766
IN THE APP STORE WITH GOOD
920
00:24:18,766 --> 00:24:20,766
REVIEWS, YOU MIGHT ASSUME
921
00:24:20,766 --> 00:24:22,366
EVERYTHING ON IT WAS LEGITIMATE,
922
00:24:22,366 --> 00:24:23,033
EVEN BEFORE YOU SAW METATRADER'S
923
00:24:23,033 --> 00:24:24,700
LOGO, WHICH LOOKS LIKE THREE MEN
924
00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:26,533
IN SUITS JERKING EACH OTHER OFF
925
00:24:26,533 --> 00:24:27,300
UNDER A TABLE.
926
00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:28,666
AN APPROPRIATE METAPHOR FOR
927
00:24:28,666 --> 00:24:31,133
CRYPTOCURRENCY IF I'VE EVER SEEN
928
00:24:31,133 --> 00:24:33,300
ONE.
929
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:34,133
SOME SCAMMERS EVEN SET UP
930
00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:35,000
ADDITIONAL FEATURES LIKE
931
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,300
TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION OR
932
00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,633
CUSTOMER-SERVICE LINES.
933
00:24:39,633 --> 00:24:41,500
THIS WOMAN TRIED HER BEST TO DO
934
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,166
DUE DILIGENCE ON THE SITE SHE
935
00:24:43,166 --> 00:24:43,666
WAS SENT, AND CAME AWAY
936
00:24:43,666 --> 00:24:45,133
CONVINCED IT WAS REAL.
937
00:24:45,133 --> 00:24:45,733
THERE WAS A LEGAL SECRETARY
938
00:24:45,733 --> 00:24:48,000
INVOLVED IN ANOTHER STATE,
939
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,766
VOUCHING ASSOCIATION WITH A LAW
940
00:24:49,766 --> 00:24:51,133
FIRM WHERE IT WAS SENDING MONEY
941
00:24:51,133 --> 00:24:52,133
TO.
942
00:24:52,133 --> 00:24:53,400
SHE'S REAL.
943
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,000
I COULD VERIFY HER, SO IT WAS
944
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,133
VERY COMPLEX AND WELL-REHEARSED.
945
00:24:58,133 --> 00:24:58,966
John: RIGHT.
946
00:24:58,966 --> 00:25:00,666
SHE SPOKE WITH A LEGAL SECRETARY
947
00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:01,766
AND A LAW FIRM BEFORE SENDING
948
00:25:01,766 --> 00:25:02,733
MONEY.
949
00:25:02,733 --> 00:25:05,166
AND THAT'S MORE VETTING THAN
950
00:25:05,166 --> 00:25:05,800
I'VE DONE FOR MY KIDS' DAYCARE.
951
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,900
I LOVE THEM, AND THEY'RE VERY
952
00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:08,133
PRECIOUS TO ME, BUT THEY'RE ALSO
953
00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:09,500
LOUD, STICKY, AND ONE OF THEM'S
954
00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:10,466
JUST GETTING STRONGER AND
955
00:25:10,466 --> 00:25:12,066
STRONGER EVERY DAY, SO IF YOU
956
00:25:12,066 --> 00:25:13,866
HAVE A BUILDING WITH WALLS AND A
957
00:25:13,866 --> 00:25:14,966
PHONE NUMBER I CAN CALL, I TRUST
958
00:25:15,066 --> 00:25:18,533
YOU, TAKE THEM FOR THE
959
00:25:18,533 --> 00:25:18,800
AFTERNOON.
960
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,300
AND AT THIS POINT OF THE
961
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:21,266
PROCESS, THINGS MIGHT LOOK
962
00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:22,233
PRETTY GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE
963
00:25:22,233 --> 00:25:23,000
GETTING SCAMMED.
964
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,933
YOU'VE SENT A BIT OF MONEY TO A
965
00:25:23,933 --> 00:25:26,033
LEGITIMATE-LOOKING SITE, THROUGH
966
00:25:26,033 --> 00:25:26,766
AN ACCOUNT YOU CONTROL.
967
00:25:26,766 --> 00:25:27,666
AND YOUR NEW FRIEND'S TRADING
968
00:25:27,666 --> 00:25:29,533
TIPS SEEM TO BE WORKING, SO
969
00:25:29,533 --> 00:25:31,933
MAYBE YOU SEND A LITTLE MORE.
970
00:25:31,933 --> 00:25:32,533
PRETTY SOON, YOU MIGHT HAVE A
971
00:25:32,533 --> 00:25:34,300
FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY TIED UP ON
972
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:35,500
THIS TRADING PLATFORM.
973
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:37,300
BUT WHEN YOU EVENTUALLY GO TO
974
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:38,333
WITHDRAW IT, THAT'S WHERE WE HIT
975
00:25:38,333 --> 00:25:41,133
THE FINAL STEP OF THIS PROCESS.
976
00:25:41,133 --> 00:25:41,700
REMEMBER THAT WOMAN YOU SAW
977
00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:45,200
EARLIER, WHOSE ONLINE FRIEND
978
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,800
CLAIMED HE WAS FROM THE TOWN
979
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,433
WHERE SHE WAS BORN?
980
00:25:47,533 --> 00:25:49,333
WELL, SHE'D CONVINCED HER DAD TO
981
00:25:49,433 --> 00:25:49,733
INVEST AS WELL.
982
00:25:49,733 --> 00:25:50,400
THEY'D SEEMINGLY MADE A BUNCH OF
983
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,333
MONEY, AND THEN THIS HAPPENED.
984
00:25:52,333 --> 00:25:53,633
BY DECEMBER, THEIR ACCOUNTS
985
00:25:53,633 --> 00:25:55,166
SHOWED A COMBINED BALANCE OF
986
00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:58,966
$1.2 MILLION, AND HUTCHINSON
987
00:25:58,966 --> 00:26:00,966
DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO CASH OUT.
988
00:26:00,966 --> 00:26:02,766
THAT'S WHEN THE SITE TOLD HER,
989
00:26:02,766 --> 00:26:05,066
BEFORE SHE COULD WITHDRAW HER
990
00:26:05,066 --> 00:26:05,700
MONEY, SHE'D HAVE TO PAY A HEFTY
991
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:09,800
TAX BILL OF ROUGHLY $380,000.
992
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,333
THAT'S WHEN I WAS LIKE
993
00:26:10,333 --> 00:26:12,333
"SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT."
994
00:26:12,333 --> 00:26:14,033
IT WASN'T.
995
00:26:14,033 --> 00:26:15,000
THE CRYPTOCURRENCY INVESTMENTS
996
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,133
WEREN'T REAL.
997
00:26:17,133 --> 00:26:18,133
ALL HER AND HER FATHER'S FUNDS
998
00:26:18,133 --> 00:26:22,466
HAD GONE INTO THE SCAMMER'S
999
00:26:22,566 --> 00:26:22,733
POCKETS.
1000
00:26:22,733 --> 00:26:28,066
IN ALL, $390,000 STOLEN.
1001
00:26:28,066 --> 00:26:28,666
I MESSED UP MY LIFE.
1002
00:26:28,666 --> 00:26:31,166
I MESSED UP MY DAD'S LIFE
1003
00:26:31,166 --> 00:26:32,033
SHE TOLD ME THAT IT WAS ALL A
1004
00:26:32,033 --> 00:26:34,333
SCAM.
1005
00:26:34,333 --> 00:26:36,100
HUTCHINSON'S FATHER, MELVIN.
1006
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,800
AND ALL I COULD DO WAS JUST
1007
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,533
HUG HER AND TELL HER "IT'S OKAY.
1008
00:26:38,533 --> 00:26:40,433
IT'S OKAY."
1009
00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,433
IT WAS HARD.
1010
00:26:42,433 --> 00:26:43,500
IT WAS HARD, 'CAUSE WE LOST
1011
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:45,966
EVERYTHING.
1012
00:26:45,966 --> 00:26:46,600
John: YEAH-- THEIR MONEY HAD
1013
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,100
ALREADY GONE, AND THAT "TAX
1014
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:50,066
BILL" WAS JUST AN ATTEMPT TO
1015
00:26:50,066 --> 00:26:51,500
SQUEEZE THEM ONE LAST TIME.
1016
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:53,166
AND THEIRS ISN'T THE ONLY BRUTAL
1017
00:26:53,266 --> 00:26:53,466
STORY HERE.
1018
00:26:53,466 --> 00:26:55,400
THIS WOMAN LOST $350,000.
1019
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:58,100
THIS GUY LOST $300,000.
1020
00:26:58,100 --> 00:26:58,666
AND THAT WOMAN WHO FELL FOR
1021
00:26:58,666 --> 00:27:01,766
"JIMMY" SENT HIM $2.5 MILLION,
1022
00:27:01,766 --> 00:27:02,900
AS SHE WAS DEALING WITH TERMINAL
1023
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:05,066
CANCER.
1024
00:27:05,066 --> 00:27:07,733
IT'S TRAUMATIC AND HUMILIATING.
1025
00:27:07,733 --> 00:27:08,766
IT TOOK COURAGE FOR THOSE PEOPLE
1026
00:27:08,766 --> 00:27:11,033
TO COME FORWARD.
1027
00:27:11,033 --> 00:27:11,933
AND THAT'S PARTLY WHY EXPERTS
1028
00:27:11,933 --> 00:27:13,633
THINK THE $3 BILLION FIGURE WE
1029
00:27:13,633 --> 00:27:14,966
HAVE IS WAY TOO LOW: BECAUSE
1030
00:27:14,966 --> 00:27:17,166
MOST PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN SCAMMED
1031
00:27:17,166 --> 00:27:17,766
LIKE THIS SIMPLY DON'T REPORT
1032
00:27:17,766 --> 00:27:18,366
THEIR LOSSES OUT OF
1033
00:27:18,366 --> 00:27:19,733
EMBARRASSMENT.
1034
00:27:19,733 --> 00:27:21,433
AND AT THIS POINT, YOU'RE
1035
00:27:21,433 --> 00:27:22,066
PROBABLY FURIOUS WITH THE PEOPLE
1036
00:27:22,066 --> 00:27:23,500
ON THE OTHER END OF ALL THESE
1037
00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:25,400
MESSAGES, AND WANT TO SEE THEM
1038
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,000
TAKEN DOWN-- OR, AT THE VERY
1039
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,966
LEAST, FUCKED WITH.
1040
00:27:27,066 --> 00:27:29,466
AND THAT HAPPENS A LOT.
1041
00:27:29,466 --> 00:27:31,100
PEOPLE POST SCREENGRABS MESSING
1042
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:33,266
WITH SCAMMERS ALL THE TIME, LIKE
1043
00:27:33,266 --> 00:27:33,900
IN THIS EXCHANGE, WHERE SOMEONE
1044
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:35,966
REPLIES TO A "WRONG NUMBER" TEXT
1045
00:27:35,966 --> 00:27:39,666
WITH "MY NAME IS INIGO
1046
00:27:42,633 --> 00:27:43,366
WITH "MY NAME IS INIGO MONTOYA"
1047
00:27:43,366 --> 00:27:45,000
AND "YOU DON'T BY ANY CHANCE
1048
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,300
HAVE SIX FINGERS ON YOUR RIGHT
1049
00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:47,333
HAND, DO YOU?"
1050
00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:48,200
OR THIS ONE, WHERE A SCAMMER
1051
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,400
WRITES "I'M SARAH, NICE TO MEET
1052
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,833
YOU" WITH A PICTURE, AND GETS
1053
00:27:50,833 --> 00:27:52,733
THE REPLY "WEE WOO WEE WOO.
1054
00:27:52,733 --> 00:27:54,833
BONER ALERT."
1055
00:27:54,833 --> 00:27:56,233
AND LOOK: THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE
1056
00:27:56,233 --> 00:27:57,600
THE RIGHT SOUND.
1057
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,566
I WOULD'VE GONE WITH "A-WOO-GA,
1058
00:27:58,566 --> 00:27:59,200
A-WOO-GA.
1059
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,433
BONER ALERT."
1060
00:28:04,433 --> 00:28:05,233
BUT, REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN
1061
00:28:05,233 --> 00:28:06,033
DISAGREE.
1062
00:28:06,033 --> 00:28:07,400
ALL BODIES ARE DIFFERENT.
1063
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,066
THERE'S NO ONE RIGHT SOUND FOR A
1064
00:28:09,066 --> 00:28:10,300
BONER ALERT.
1065
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:11,733
BUT HERE'S THE THING: AS
1066
00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:13,600
CATHARTIC AS THAT MIGHT BE, THE
1067
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,600
PERSON ON THE OTHER END OF THAT
1068
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,466
PHONE MIGHT NOT BE THE ONE YOU
1069
00:28:15,466 --> 00:28:16,733
SHOULD BE MAD AT.
1070
00:28:16,733 --> 00:28:17,566
BECAUSE REMEMBER WHEN I SAID
1071
00:28:17,566 --> 00:28:18,600
THIS WAS BEING DONE IN FORMER
1072
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,700
CASINOS BY ORGANIZED CRIME
1073
00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:20,966
SYNDICATES?
1074
00:28:20,966 --> 00:28:22,400
TURNS OUT, THEY'RE NOT GREAT
1075
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,333
BOSSES.
1076
00:28:23,333 --> 00:28:24,500
THIS COMPOUND IS WHERE AN
1077
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:25,466
INDIAN MAN NAMED RAKESH SAYS HE
1078
00:28:25,466 --> 00:28:26,433
WAS FORCED TO WORK FOR MORE THAN
1079
00:28:26,433 --> 00:28:27,766
11 MONTHS WITHOUT PAY FOR A
1080
00:28:27,766 --> 00:28:30,666
CHINESE CRIMINAL GANG.
1081
00:28:30,666 --> 00:28:31,300
RAKESH, WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BE
1082
00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:32,500
IDENTIFIED, SAYS HE FIRST FLEW
1083
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:33,600
TO THAILAND FOR WHAT HE THOUGHT
1084
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,233
WAS AN IT JOB.
1085
00:28:35,333 --> 00:28:37,466
INSTEAD, HE SAYS HE WAS TRICKED
1086
00:28:37,466 --> 00:28:38,800
INTO CROSSING THE BORDER TO
1087
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,233
MYANMAR WHERE A CHINESE GANGSTER
1088
00:28:41,233 --> 00:28:43,900
TOLD HIM TO WORK, OR ELSE.
1089
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:44,966
HE THREATENED TO KILL YOU.
1090
00:28:44,966 --> 00:28:45,800
YEAH.
1091
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,433
HE WARNED ME LIKE THAT.
1092
00:28:47,433 --> 00:28:48,866
AND THE JOB?
1093
00:28:48,866 --> 00:28:49,466
SPEND 16 HOURS A DAY ON SOCIAL
1094
00:28:49,466 --> 00:28:51,333
MEDIA TARGETING AMERICANS WITH A
1095
00:28:51,333 --> 00:28:53,766
FAKE PROFILE.
1096
00:28:53,766 --> 00:28:55,400
John: THAT'S AWFUL.
1097
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,000
NO ONE SHOULD BE FORCED TO SPEND
1098
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,866
16 HOURS A DAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
1099
00:28:59,866 --> 00:29:02,300
YOU SHOULD DO IT EITHER BECAUSE
1100
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:02,900
YOU LOVE IT, OR BECAUSE YOU'RE
1101
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:04,266
15-YEARS-OLD AND THE ALGORITHM
1102
00:29:04,266 --> 00:29:05,800
HAS ADDICTED YOU TO IT.
1103
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,000
YOU KNOW.
1104
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,700
COMPLETELY NORMAL REASONS.
1105
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:10,333
A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE
1106
00:29:10,333 --> 00:29:11,866
USING PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HUMAN
1107
00:29:11,866 --> 00:29:13,866
TRAFFICKED, AFTER BEING LURED TO
1108
00:29:13,866 --> 00:29:14,400
THE COMPOUNDS UNDER FALSE
1109
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,666
PRETENSES.
1110
00:29:15,666 --> 00:29:17,500
THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE VICTIMS OF
1111
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:18,500
A SCAM THEMSELVES.
1112
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:19,566
BASICALLY, THEY MIGHT SEE JOB
1113
00:29:19,566 --> 00:29:21,300
ADS FOR SKILLED POSITIONS AS
1114
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:22,600
TRANSLATORS, OR IT SPECIALISTS,
1115
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,566
IN ANOTHER COUNTRY.
1116
00:29:24,566 --> 00:29:25,633
THEY THEN GO THROUGH A WHOLE
1117
00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:27,066
APPLICATION PROCESS-- WITH SOME
1118
00:29:27,066 --> 00:29:28,700
GOING THROUGH UP TO FOUR
1119
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:29,833
SEEMINGLY LEGITIMATE ONLINE
1120
00:29:29,833 --> 00:29:30,633
INTERVIEWS-- AND FLY TO THEIR
1121
00:29:30,633 --> 00:29:32,433
NEW JOB.
1122
00:29:32,433 --> 00:29:34,966
AT WHICH POINT, THEY SUDDENLY
1123
00:29:34,966 --> 00:29:36,066
LEARN THEIR NEW BOSSES HAVE
1124
00:29:36,066 --> 00:29:38,966
THEIR DOCUMENTS AND THEY NOW
1125
00:29:38,966 --> 00:29:40,233
CAN'T LEAVE.
1126
00:29:40,333 --> 00:29:41,566
BACK IN 2022, PROPUBLICA
1127
00:29:41,666 --> 00:29:42,800
ESTIMATED THAT TENS OF THOUSANDS
1128
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,000
OF PEOPLE HAD BEEN TRICKED IN
1129
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,533
THIS WAY.
1130
00:29:46,533 --> 00:29:47,800
AND A MORE RECENT UN REPORT
1131
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,466
ESTIMATED THAT HUNDREDS OF
1132
00:29:49,466 --> 00:29:50,066
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
1133
00:29:50,066 --> 00:29:52,100
FORCIBLY ENGAGED IN THIS SCHEME.
1134
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:53,066
THEY ALSO SAY "MOST VICTIMS ARE
1135
00:29:53,066 --> 00:29:54,866
CONFINED TO THE SCAM COMPOUND,"
1136
00:29:54,866 --> 00:29:57,233
AND THEIR SCREENS ARE ALWAYS
1137
00:29:57,233 --> 00:29:57,866
MONITORED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE
1138
00:29:57,866 --> 00:29:58,766
ORGANIZED CRIME GROUP.
1139
00:29:58,766 --> 00:29:59,500
AND ONCE THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE
1140
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:01,933
PROVIDED FAKE PROFILES TO TRY
1141
00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:03,000
AND HOOK PEOPLE IN WITH.
1142
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,200
HERE'S WHO RAKESH FOUND HIMSELF
1143
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:06,566
BEING ALL DAY.
1144
00:30:06,566 --> 00:30:08,333
I GOT A RUSSIAN GIRL.
1145
00:30:08,333 --> 00:30:10,900
WITH USING A RUSSIAN GIRL FAKE
1146
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:12,533
PROFILE, I NEED TO SCAM PEOPLE.
1147
00:30:12,533 --> 00:30:14,733
POSING AS A SALT LAKE
1148
00:30:14,833 --> 00:30:15,366
CITY-BASED INVESTOR NAMED CLARA
1149
00:30:15,466 --> 00:30:17,266
SIMONOV, RAKESH FLIRTED ONLINE
1150
00:30:17,266 --> 00:30:21,600
WITH POTENTIAL TARGETS.
1151
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,733
70-80% FALL FOR FAKE LOVE.
1152
00:30:23,733 --> 00:30:24,466
John: YEAH, RAKESH WAS KLARA
1153
00:30:24,466 --> 00:30:26,000
SEMONOV FROM SALT LAKE CITY.
1154
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,500
SO, BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER:
1155
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:29,133
ANYONE WHO THINKS THEY'RE DATING
1156
00:30:29,133 --> 00:30:32,533
KLARA-- I'M AFRAID YOU'RE NOT.
1157
00:30:32,533 --> 00:30:35,066
THE RELATIONSHIP IS OVER.
1158
00:30:35,066 --> 00:30:35,700
IT'S NOT YOU, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT
1159
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:36,300
HER.
1160
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:38,233
IT'S RAKESH.
1161
00:30:38,233 --> 00:30:39,466
BUT ALSO, IT ISN'T HIM.
1162
00:30:39,466 --> 00:30:41,233
IT'S RAKESH'S BOSS, WHO WON'T
1163
00:30:41,233 --> 00:30:42,300
LET HIM LEAVE.
1164
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:43,466
THE WHOLE OPERATION IS HIGHLY
1165
00:30:43,466 --> 00:30:45,033
ORGANIZED, AND SET UP TO GET
1166
00:30:45,033 --> 00:30:47,333
AROUND THE USUAL WAYS YOU MIGHT
1167
00:30:47,433 --> 00:30:49,333
DETECT A SCAM.
1168
00:30:49,433 --> 00:30:50,000
FOR INSTANCE, SOME ORGANIZATIONS
1169
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,133
GENERATE THEIR OWN PHOTOS FOR
1170
00:30:51,133 --> 00:30:53,366
THE PROFILES, SO THEY CAN'T BE
1171
00:30:53,366 --> 00:30:55,400
REVERSE-IMAGE-SEARCHED.
1172
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,033
AND EMPLOYEES ARE GIVEN MANUALS
1173
00:30:56,033 --> 00:30:58,066
LIKE THESE THAT GUIDE THEM
1174
00:30:58,066 --> 00:30:58,600
THROUGH EVERY STEP OF THE
1175
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,633
PROCESS.
1176
00:30:59,633 --> 00:31:00,366
THEY'RE TOLD TO TARGET PEOPLE
1177
00:31:00,366 --> 00:31:03,033
WHO LOOK WEALTHY AND SUCCESSFUL.
1178
00:31:03,033 --> 00:31:05,700
ONE ADVISES: ON THE FIRST DAY,
1179
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:06,266
TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE YOUR
1180
00:31:06,266 --> 00:31:07,266
NAME, AGE, OCCUPATION AND
1181
00:31:07,266 --> 00:31:08,866
HOBBIES.
1182
00:31:08,866 --> 00:31:10,533
THEN, THE NEXT DAY, TALK ABOUT
1183
00:31:10,533 --> 00:31:12,200
YOUR EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE, WITH
1184
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,166
A MESSAGE DIVIDED INTO TWO
1185
00:31:14,166 --> 00:31:15,433
PARAGRAPHS.
1186
00:31:15,433 --> 00:31:16,533
AND THEN, ON THE THIRD DAY, TALK
1187
00:31:16,533 --> 00:31:17,633
ABOUT YOUR ENTREPRENEURIAL
1188
00:31:17,633 --> 00:31:19,733
EXPERIENCE.
1189
00:31:19,733 --> 00:31:20,333
THEY'RE EVEN GIVEN TIPS ON HOW
1190
00:31:20,433 --> 00:31:22,200
TO BREAK DOWN PEOPLE'S DEFENSES.
1191
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:22,866
WE REVIEWED SEVERAL OF THESE
1192
00:31:22,866 --> 00:31:24,500
MANUALS AND THEY CAREFULLY
1193
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:25,633
EXPLAIN HOW TO BUILD TRUST AND
1194
00:31:25,633 --> 00:31:29,066
EXPLOIT WEAKNESSES IN THEIR
1195
00:31:29,066 --> 00:31:29,633
SO-CALLED CLIENT, SUCH AS--
1196
00:31:29,633 --> 00:31:33,433
BE FUNNY, MAKE CLIENTS FALL
1197
00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:34,633
IN LOVE WITH YOU SO DEEPLY THAT
1198
00:31:34,633 --> 00:31:36,400
THEY FORGET EVERYTHING.
1199
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,066
John: THE CHILLING THING IS,
1200
00:31:38,066 --> 00:31:38,600
THAT'S KIND OF TRUE.
1201
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,566
IF YOU'RE FUNNY ENOUGH, YOU CAN
1202
00:31:39,566 --> 00:31:40,566
MAKE PEOPLE FORGET A LOT OF
1203
00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:42,133
THINGS, WHETHER IT'S COMMONSENSE
1204
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:43,433
INTERNET SAFEGUARDS, LESSONS
1205
00:31:43,433 --> 00:31:46,033
FROM PREVIOUS RELATIONSHIPS, OR
1206
00:31:46,033 --> 00:31:47,200
THAT THEY'VE BEEN ACCIDENTALLY
1207
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,700
LEARNING ABOUT FINANCIAL FRAUD
1208
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:50,166
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING FOR THE
1209
00:31:50,166 --> 00:31:53,766
LAST TWENTY MINUTES.
1210
00:31:53,866 --> 00:31:56,466
WE ARE HAVING FUN, AREN'T WE?
1211
00:31:56,466 --> 00:31:58,033
AND IF YOU'RE THINKING "WHY
1212
00:31:58,033 --> 00:31:58,866
DON'T AUTHORITIES SHUT THESE
1213
00:31:58,866 --> 00:31:59,766
COMPOUNDS DOWN?"
1214
00:31:59,766 --> 00:32:01,633
SOMETIMES, THEY'RE IN ON IT.
1215
00:32:01,633 --> 00:32:02,433
HERE'S ONE MAN WHO WAS
1216
00:32:02,433 --> 00:32:03,566
TRAFFICKED TO A SCAM CENTER IN
1217
00:32:03,566 --> 00:32:04,733
CAMBODIA, EXPLAINING WHAT
1218
00:32:04,733 --> 00:32:05,966
HAPPENED WHEN HE DID THE OBVIOUS
1219
00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:06,600
THING.
1220
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,433
ON HIS SECOND DAY IN
1221
00:32:07,433 --> 00:32:10,266
CAPTIVITY, LU EMAILED THE
1222
00:32:10,266 --> 00:32:10,633
CHINESE EMBASSY.
1223
00:32:10,633 --> 00:32:11,466
HE WAS ADVISED TO CALL THE
1224
00:32:11,466 --> 00:32:12,700
SIHANOUKVILLE POLICE.
1225
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:14,833
BUT THE POLICE NEVER CAME.
1226
00:32:14,833 --> 00:32:16,133
THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT CAME
1227
00:32:16,133 --> 00:32:17,133
INSTEAD.
1228
00:32:17,133 --> 00:32:17,866
THEY KNEW THAT I'D CALLED THE
1229
00:32:17,866 --> 00:32:20,933
POLICE.
1230
00:32:20,933 --> 00:32:23,633
LU SAYS THE MANAGERS THEN
1231
00:32:23,633 --> 00:32:24,866
SOLD HIM TO ANOTHER SCAMMING
1232
00:32:24,866 --> 00:32:31,933
COMPANY.
1233
00:32:33,366 --> 00:32:33,933
HE SAID BECAUSE I CALLED THE
1234
00:32:33,933 --> 00:32:35,233
POLICE, THEY HAD TO "TAKE CARE"
1235
00:32:35,233 --> 00:32:35,800
OF THE POLICE WITH AT LEAST
1236
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,000
$4,000, AND I HAD TO PAY FOR
1237
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:38,266
THAT TOO.
1238
00:32:38,266 --> 00:32:39,133
John: YEAH, THE AUTHORITIES
1239
00:32:39,133 --> 00:32:40,200
WEREN'T GOING TO HELP HIM.
1240
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,233
WHICH ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE WHEN
1241
00:32:41,233 --> 00:32:42,500
YOU LEARN THAT, ACCORDING TO UN
1242
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:43,700
ESTIMATES, PIG BUTCHERING IN
1243
00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:45,033
CAMBODIA BRINGS IN AN AMOUNT
1244
00:32:45,033 --> 00:32:45,700
EQUIVALENT TO HALF THE COUNTRY'S
1245
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:46,733
GDP.
1246
00:32:46,733 --> 00:32:48,333
WHICH IS WORRISOME, BECAUSE AS
1247
00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:50,166
EVERYONE KNOWS WHEN SOMETHING
1248
00:32:50,166 --> 00:32:50,933
GENERATES THAT MUCH MONEY, YOU
1249
00:32:50,933 --> 00:32:53,266
DON'T SHUT IT DOWN, YOU SPIN IT
1250
00:32:53,266 --> 00:32:53,866
OFF AND PRAY THE MAGIC WORKS A
1251
00:32:53,866 --> 00:32:58,166
SECOND TIME.
1252
00:32:58,166 --> 00:32:59,566
, ON!
1253
00:33:00,833 --> 00:33:01,566
AND CONDITIONS IN THESE
1254
00:33:01,666 --> 00:33:06,166
COMPOUNDS CAN BE BRUTAL.
1255
00:33:06,166 --> 00:33:06,700
THAT MAN YOU SAW EARLIER,
1256
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:08,400
RAKESH, TOOK PHOTOS OF ABUSE
1257
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,300
LIKE THIS ONE, OF A COWORKER
1258
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:10,400
WHO'D BEEN BEATEN.
1259
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,033
AND LU, WHO MANAGED TO GET OUT,
1260
00:33:11,033 --> 00:33:12,166
NOW WORKS TO FREE OTHERS-- AND
1261
00:33:12,166 --> 00:33:13,600
THE STORIES OF WHAT HE'S SEEN
1262
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,766
ARE, FAIR WARNING, HARD TO
1263
00:33:14,766 --> 00:33:15,600
WATCH.
1264
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,300
I SAW A MAN GET BEATEN UP
1265
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:17,766
VERY BADLY.
1266
00:33:17,766 --> 00:33:19,133
HE HAD INJURIES ALL OVER HIS
1267
00:33:19,133 --> 00:33:20,400
BODY.
1268
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,233
LU CONTENDS IT WAS THIS MAN,
1269
00:33:22,233 --> 00:33:22,866
WHO WAS REPORTEDLY FOUND HANGING
1270
00:33:22,866 --> 00:33:24,500
JUST HOURS LATER.
1271
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:26,566
I'M CERTAIN IT WAS HIM.
1272
00:33:26,566 --> 00:33:28,200
HIS PHONE IS FULL OF MESSAGES
1273
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,733
FROM CHINESE CITIZENS DESPERATE
1274
00:33:29,733 --> 00:33:32,100
TO BE FREE FROM SCAM COMPANIES.
1275
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:34,600
THERE'S VIDEOS OF ABUSE.
1276
00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:36,433
LU SAYS HE RECEIVES THEM
1277
00:33:36,433 --> 00:33:38,533
DIRECTLY FROM VICTIMS INSIDE THE
1278
00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:40,100
SCAM INDUSTRY, OR FINDS THEM
1279
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POSTED IN SOCIAL MEDIA GROUP
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CHATS.
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"HE'S GOT HANDCUFFS."
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THEY'RE SHOCKING.
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John: THAT'S HORRIFYING.
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AND WHEN YOU KNOW ALL THIS, IT
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KIND OF STARTS TO CHANGE WHO
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EXACTLY YOU'RE MAD AT HERE.
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BECAUSE SUDDENLY, THE
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INDIVIDUALS ON THE OTHER END OF
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THE PHONE DON'T SEEM QUITE SO
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FUN TO SEND A MESSAGE OF "WEE
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WOO WEE WOO, BONER ALERT" TO.
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NOT THAT IT ISN'T AN EXCELLENT
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TEXT.
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WHO DOESN'T LOVE A BONER ALERT?
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BUT THERE'S A TIME AND A PLACE,
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AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE IT.
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00:34:10,933 --> 00:34:11,566
ALSO, FROM NOW ON, WHENEVER YOU
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GET A SEXY TEXT FROM A NEW
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STRANGER, GOOD LUCK NOT
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THINKING, "IS THIS A MAN WHO WAS
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JUST BEATEN IN A WORK CAMP IN
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MYANMAR?"
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00:34:17,133 --> 00:34:17,733
AND THAT, IF ANYTHING, IS THE
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00:34:17,733 --> 00:34:19,266
JOHN OLIVER EFFECT.
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YOU'RE WELCOME.
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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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AND LOOK: I CAN'T SAY THAT EVERY
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SCAMMER IS SOMEONE WHO WAS
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KIDNAPPED, TORTURED AND FORCED
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TO DO IT.
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BUT EVEN IF NOT EVERYONE WHO'S
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DOING THIS IS TRAPPED OR
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COERCED, THE FACT THAT MANY ARE,
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IS STILL A HUGE PROBLEM.
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00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,433
SO, WHAT CAN WE DO?
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WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE
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00:34:37,733 --> 00:34:38,533
IMPRISONED IN THESE COMPOUNDS,
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THAT'S GOING TO TAKE
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COLLABORATION BETWEEN
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INTERNATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
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SO UNLESS YOU'RE THE HEAD OF
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INTERPOL, WHICH, I'M GUESSING,
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00:34:45,433 --> 00:34:46,033
YOU'RE NOT, THERE'S NOT MUCH
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YOU, PERSONALLY, CAN DO.
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IN THIS COUNTRY, I'D ARGUE
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PLATFORMS LIKE THESE SHOULD BE
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DOING WAY MORE TO PREVENT PEOPLE
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FROM MAKING FAKE ACCOUNTS AND
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00:34:56,833 --> 00:34:57,433
TARGETING PEOPLE, BECAUSE IT'S
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HAPPENING ON THEIR WATCH.
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00:34:58,966 --> 00:35:04,766
BUT THE TRUTH IS, PERHAPS THE
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MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO STOP THIS
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FROM HAPPENING, IS TO MAKE IT
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LESS LUCRATIVE BY HAVING FEWER
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PEOPLE FALL FOR IT.
1336
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AND THAT'S WHERE AWARENESS OF
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THIS SCAM IS KEY.
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THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RARE CASES
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WHERE RAISING AWARENESS IS, IN
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ITSELF, GENUINELY USEFUL.
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00:35:15,433 --> 00:35:16,333
BECAUSE HOPEFULLY, YOU'VE SEEN
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TONIGHT-- THIS COULD HAPPEN TO
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SOMEONE YOU KNOW.
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THIS HASN'T JUST SUCKED IN OLD
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PEOPLE, OR THOSE WHO AREN'T
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TECH-SAVVY.
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IT MANAGED TO REEL IN A BANK
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CEO.
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00:35:24,266 --> 00:35:26,166
EVERYONE HAS AN IMAGE OF THE
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TYPE OF PERSON WHO'S SUSCEPTIBLE
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TO GETTING SCAMMED IN THEIR
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00:35:27,733 --> 00:35:29,833
HEADS, BUT UNLESS THAT IMAGE IS
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A MIRROR, YOU MIGHT BE WRONG.
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00:35:31,233 --> 00:35:34,133
SO: AS A GENERAL RULE, WHEN A
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STRANGER ON A DATING APP SAYS
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EITHER "I LOVE YOU" OR "CRYPTO"
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WITHIN A MONTH OF TALKING TO
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YOU: WORRY.
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HONESTLY, EVEN IF THEY DON'T
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TURN OUT TO BE SCAMMERS, THOSE
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ARE PRETTY GOOD RED FLAGS TO BE
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LOOKING FOR, PERSONALITY-WISE.
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AND IT'S WORTH TELLING YOUR
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FRIENDS AND FAMILY ABOUT PIG
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BUTCHERING, TOO.
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IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BIG
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LECTURE OR ANYTHING.
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YOU CAN JUST SEND THEM A LINK TO
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THIS SHOW.
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AND IF THEY SAY, "I HATE THAT
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GUY," SAY, "YEAH, ME TOO, HE'S
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THE WORST, JUST SKIP PAST THE
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JOKES."
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AND IF THEY SAY, "I'LL WATCH IT,
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00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:03,000
BUT HE LOOKS LIKE A LEGO
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ACCOUNTANT.
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WAIT, NO-- HE LOOKS LIKE CHAT
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GPT'S ANSWER TO 'SHOW ME A
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VIRGIN.'
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WAIT, NO.
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HE LOOKS LIKE HARRY POTTER IF HE
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JUST STAYED UNDER THE STAIRS."
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JUST LEAVE THEM ON READ.
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YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMPLETELY
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SELL ME OUT.
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MAYBE DROP A THUMBS-UP EMJOI,
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BUT LEAVE IT AT THAT.
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AND LOOK: IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE
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WHO'S BEEN SCAMMED LIKE THIS, BE
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KIND.
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IT'S HUMAN TO WANT
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COMPANIONSHIP.
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AND IT'S ACTUALLY A NICE QUALITY
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TO BE TRUSTING.
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AND IT SUCKS THAT THE INTERNET,
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WHICH SHOULD BE A WAY TO
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ALLEVIATE LONELINESS, CAN BE
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TURNED INTO A TOOL TO EXPLOIT
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IT.
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BUT MAYBE, IF WE ALL LOOK OUT
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FOR ONE ANOTHER, WE CAN ENSURE
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THAT THE WORST MISTAKE ANYONE
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EVER MAKES ON THE INTERNET IS
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INADVERTENTLY BUYING AN
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EXCELLENT CHRISTMAS TREE FOR GAY
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MICE.
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BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT THAT BAD
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A PURCHASE.
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BELIEVE ME, I KNOW.
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AND NOW, THIS.
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Announcer: AND NOW, LOSING
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IT OVER MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL'S NEW PANTS.
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MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL
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INTRODUCED NEW UNIFORMS THIS
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YEAR, BUT THERE'S PROBLEMS.
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THE PANTS ARE MADE OF THINNER
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FABRIC, MAKING THEM ALMOST
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SEE-THROUGH, CHRIS.
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YOU'VE GOT MY ATTENTION, I'M
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LISTENING.
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SHIRTS KEEPING THINGS
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COVERED.
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LOOK AT HIS HANDS.
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THEY ARE DEFINITELY
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SEE-THROUGH.
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00:37:23,166 --> 00:37:24,566
YOU CAN SEE IT.
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00:37:24,566 --> 00:37:28,333
OH.
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[LAUGHTER]
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STEVE!
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WOW.
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WE CAN GO TO THE WEATHER NOW.
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00:37:32,966 --> 00:37:34,866
DOES HE LOOK HAPPY WEARING
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THEM?
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NO.
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00:37:35,233 --> 00:37:36,933
HE LOOKS HAPPY WEARING THEM.
1436
00:37:36,933 --> 00:37:38,900
DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM?
1437
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:40,166
I DON'T THINK GIRLS ARE
1438
00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:41,266
SAYING THERE'S A PROBLEM.
1439
00:37:41,266 --> 00:37:44,033
PLAYERS, I THINK, HAVE AN
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ISSUE WITH IT.
1441
00:37:44,933 --> 00:37:46,866
PATENS AND BOXER BRIEFS,
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00:37:46,866 --> 00:37:48,000
EVERYONE IS GOING TO SEE THAT?
1443
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,866
I'M SUDDENLY INTERESTED IN
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00:37:50,866 --> 00:37:51,133
BASEBALL.
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00:37:51,133 --> 00:37:53,666
CAN WE ZOOM IN TO THESE
1446
00:37:53,666 --> 00:37:54,400
PHOTOS A LITTLE MORE?
1447
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,600
I CAN'T TELL BECAUSE I'VE GOT
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00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:56,866
BAD EYES.
1449
00:37:56,866 --> 00:37:58,366
YOU CAN SEE THE SHIRT TUCKED
1450
00:37:58,366 --> 00:37:58,533
IN.
1451
00:37:58,533 --> 00:38:01,066
MAY BECOME OF THE UNIFORMS,
1452
00:38:01,166 --> 00:38:03,800
MORE WOMEN ARE WATCHING
1453
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,133
BASEBALL, RUNNING TO WATCH
1454
00:38:05,133 --> 00:38:05,400
BASEBALL.
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00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,700
YOU'VE GOT ERIKA'S INTEREST.
1456
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:10,033
SHE IS GOOGLING OVER HERE.
1457
00:38:10,033 --> 00:38:12,200
THAT'S A GOOD RECRUITING
1458
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:12,433
DEVICE.
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00:38:12,433 --> 00:38:13,566
NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PANTS.
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00:38:13,566 --> 00:38:15,200
I THINK THEY ARE FINE.
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00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,266
I WAS INSPECTING THEM.
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00:38:18,266 --> 00:38:18,766
OKAY.
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00:38:18,766 --> 00:38:21,400
THIS MAY MAKE YOU--
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00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,566
[LAUGHTER]
1465
00:38:23,566 --> 00:38:26,800
WHO PUT THE ORDER OF THE
1466
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,400
STORIES THIS WAY?
1467
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,466
John: THAT'S OUR SHOW.
1468
00:38:31,466 --> 00:38:32,733
THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.
1469
00:38:32,733 --> 00:38:35,266
WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK,
1470
00:38:35,366 --> 00:38:35,933
GOOD NIGHT.
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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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