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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,751 --> 00:00:08,335 It is a mixture of pretty scenery 2 00:00:08,418 --> 00:00:10,085 and ugly events. 3 00:00:10,168 --> 00:00:12,210 Walter Cronkite: Vietnam reports today of the 4 00:00:12,043 --> 00:00:14,460 bloodiest fighting in almost a year. 5 00:00:14,543 --> 00:00:16,876 (machine gun and artillery fire) 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,585 We will not surrender 7 00:00:18,668 --> 00:00:21,585 and we will not retreat. 8 00:00:21,668 --> 00:00:22,835 You think you can win? 9 00:00:22,918 --> 00:00:24,251 Oh I know we can win. 10 00:00:24,335 --> 00:00:25,626 These people are being killed. 11 00:00:25,710 --> 00:00:27,543 They're being killed, why? 12 00:00:27,626 --> 00:00:32,793 The United States must stop this bloody aggression. 13 00:00:32,876 --> 00:00:34,918 Goddamnit, we're in the-- (explosion) 14 00:00:38,585 --> 00:00:41,751 ♪ (theme music) ♪ 15 00:01:27,085 --> 00:01:28,293 Unidentified male: Ladies and gentlemen, 16 00:01:28,376 --> 00:01:30,835 the President of the United states. 17 00:01:30,918 --> 00:01:32,168 Unidentified male: Mr. President, 18 00:01:32,251 --> 00:01:33,668 it was just a year ago that you ordered 19 00:01:33,751 --> 00:01:35,960 stepped-up aid to Vietnam. 20 00:01:36,043 --> 00:01:37,335 There seems to be a good deal of discouragement 21 00:01:37,418 --> 00:01:38,751 about the progress. 22 00:01:38,835 --> 00:01:40,668 Can you give us your assessment? 23 00:01:40,751 --> 00:01:41,668 John F Kennedy: No, we are putting in 24 00:01:41,751 --> 00:01:43,168 a major effort in Vietnam. 25 00:01:43,251 --> 00:01:46,126 As you know, we have about 10 or 11 times 26 00:01:46,210 --> 00:01:48,793 as many advisors there as we had a year ago. 27 00:01:48,876 --> 00:01:50,918 So we don't see the end of the tunnel but 28 00:01:51,001 --> 00:01:53,085 I must say, I don't think it's darker than 29 00:01:53,168 --> 00:01:55,043 it was a year ago, in some ways lighter. 30 00:01:55,126 --> 00:01:58,085 Early on, Kennedy made a command decision. 31 00:01:58,168 --> 00:02:01,168 We will not allow South Vietnam 32 00:02:01,251 --> 00:02:03,168 to fall to the Communists. 33 00:02:03,251 --> 00:02:05,335 (gunfire) 34 00:02:05,418 --> 00:02:07,210 Unidentified reporter: In Southeast Asia, 35 00:02:07,043 --> 00:02:10,460 communist inspired subversion was unrelenting. 36 00:02:10,543 --> 00:02:13,126 South Vietnam looked to others for assistance 37 00:02:13,210 --> 00:02:16,251 in stemming North Vietnamese aggression. 38 00:02:16,085 --> 00:02:17,293 Robert Dallek: Going back to the 39 00:02:17,376 --> 00:02:20,043 Eisenhower Administration in the late 50's, 40 00:02:20,126 --> 00:02:24,126 the country split into South and North Vietnam. 41 00:02:24,210 --> 00:02:26,210 You have the Communists in the North 42 00:02:26,043 --> 00:02:28,376 and so the United States is very eager 43 00:02:28,460 --> 00:02:32,001 to preserve the South from a Communist takeover. 44 00:02:32,085 --> 00:02:33,168 Andrew Bacevich: The Communist 45 00:02:33,251 --> 00:02:35,835 North Vietnamese believed in nationalism, 46 00:02:35,918 --> 00:02:40,085 uniting their country under their own control. 47 00:02:40,168 --> 00:02:41,585 Neil Sheehan: The Cold War conspiracy 48 00:02:41,668 --> 00:02:43,376 was that if the Vietnamese Communists 49 00:02:43,460 --> 00:02:46,835 won the war in Vietnam, all of Southeast Asia would fall. 50 00:02:46,918 --> 00:02:49,251 The dominoes would fall one after another. 51 00:02:49,085 --> 00:02:50,210 Charles Collongwood: There is no doubt 52 00:02:50,293 --> 00:02:52,251 that the fall of South Vietnam 53 00:02:52,085 --> 00:02:54,168 would have serious repercussions 54 00:02:54,251 --> 00:02:56,043 on the other countries of Southeast Asia. 55 00:02:56,126 --> 00:02:58,793 This is fundamentally the reason 56 00:02:58,876 --> 00:03:00,543 why we're in South Vietnam. 57 00:03:00,626 --> 00:03:02,043 Dallek: After all, Eastern Europe 58 00:03:02,126 --> 00:03:03,876 has fallen to Communism. 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,668 China has fallen to Communism. 60 00:03:05,751 --> 00:03:07,251 We can't lose Southeast Asia. 61 00:03:07,335 --> 00:03:10,043 So we have to stabilize South Vietnam. 62 00:03:10,126 --> 00:03:13,085 (helicopter blades whirring) 63 00:03:17,043 --> 00:03:19,168 Reporter: On January 2nd, 1963, 64 00:03:19,251 --> 00:03:22,460 South Vietnamese troops surprise a Viet Cong battalion 65 00:03:22,543 --> 00:03:24,251 at a village called Ap Bac. 66 00:03:24,335 --> 00:03:29,251 (explosion) (machine gun fire) 67 00:03:29,085 --> 00:03:30,251 Reporter: Five American helicopters 68 00:03:30,335 --> 00:03:31,668 are shot down, 69 00:03:31,751 --> 00:03:33,876 three American advisors are killed, 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,168 and 63 South Vietnamese die, 71 00:03:36,251 --> 00:03:38,710 half of them shooting at each other. 72 00:03:38,793 --> 00:03:40,668 We've got US military advisors 73 00:03:40,751 --> 00:03:42,376 flying combat missions. 74 00:03:42,460 --> 00:03:45,001 We've got advisors that are accompanying 75 00:03:45,085 --> 00:03:47,585 South Vietnamese forces into the field. 76 00:03:47,668 --> 00:03:52,168 So by this point their role had gone beyond simply advising. 77 00:03:52,251 --> 00:03:54,251 We have learned a bitter lesson. 78 00:03:54,335 --> 00:03:56,251 The army of South Vietnam cannot cope 79 00:03:56,335 --> 00:03:57,626 with the Viet Cong, 80 00:03:57,710 --> 00:03:59,710 the committed guerrilla enemy. 81 00:03:59,793 --> 00:04:03,626 It is trained for conventional war, American-style. 82 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:05,418 George Herring: There is growing uncertainty 83 00:04:05,501 --> 00:04:07,918 about whether the advisory effort 84 00:04:08,001 --> 00:04:09,251 is really working. 85 00:04:09,085 --> 00:04:10,835 Then in the midst of this, 86 00:04:10,918 --> 00:04:13,126 there is what's called the Buddhist Crisis. 87 00:04:13,210 --> 00:04:14,460 Reporter: The war in Vietnam 88 00:04:14,543 --> 00:04:17,085 has literally become a fight on two fronts. 89 00:04:17,168 --> 00:04:18,335 On one hand, the government faces 90 00:04:18,418 --> 00:04:20,043 the Viet Cong Communists 91 00:04:20,126 --> 00:04:21,626 and on the other hand it faces 92 00:04:21,710 --> 00:04:23,251 a revolt of the Buddhist majority, 93 00:04:23,335 --> 00:04:24,751 a fight which has been joined by 94 00:04:24,835 --> 00:04:26,960 thousands of students. 95 00:04:27,043 --> 00:04:28,085 Unidentified male: The country's 96 00:04:28,168 --> 00:04:31,126 Buddhist majority sees President Diem as a tyrant. 97 00:04:33,543 --> 00:04:35,085 Richard Reeves: We had established 98 00:04:35,168 --> 00:04:37,501 a government in South Vietnam 99 00:04:37,585 --> 00:04:42,876 led by a western-educated Catholic named Diem. 100 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,710 Diem was our boy. 101 00:04:44,793 --> 00:04:46,043 Dallek: But absolute power corrupts 102 00:04:46,126 --> 00:04:48,335 and Diem becomes the dictator. 103 00:04:51,335 --> 00:04:53,001 So you have a Catholic presence 104 00:04:53,085 --> 00:04:56,251 imposing itself on a Buddhist majority 105 00:04:56,335 --> 00:04:58,251 and now, they're going after the Buddhists. 106 00:04:58,335 --> 00:05:01,835 (shouting) 107 00:05:01,918 --> 00:05:03,085 Frank McGee: Soldiers and police 108 00:05:03,168 --> 00:05:05,543 broke up to demonstrations and killed nine persons. 109 00:05:09,585 --> 00:05:11,001 Unidentified male: A debate broke out 110 00:05:11,085 --> 00:05:12,293 in the American government 111 00:05:12,376 --> 00:05:13,793 over whether we should continue 112 00:05:13,876 --> 00:05:16,126 to support Diem or not. 113 00:05:16,210 --> 00:05:19,126 Dallek: By the summer of 1963 114 00:05:19,210 --> 00:05:22,376 there had been discussions in the CIA, 115 00:05:22,460 --> 00:05:25,043 in the Pentagon about toppling the Diem regime. 116 00:05:30,251 --> 00:05:31,376 Chet Huntley: Mr. President has 117 00:05:31,460 --> 00:05:35,168 our government in anyway been tardy in recognizing 118 00:05:35,251 --> 00:05:36,793 the nature of the Diem government? 119 00:05:36,876 --> 00:05:38,668 We are faced with a problem of wanting 120 00:05:38,751 --> 00:05:40,251 to protect the area against the Communists. 121 00:05:40,085 --> 00:05:41,168 On the other hand, we have to deal 122 00:05:41,251 --> 00:05:44,585 with the government there that produces a kind of... 123 00:05:44,668 --> 00:05:49,876 ambivalence... in our efforts which 124 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,460 expose us to some criticism. 125 00:05:51,543 --> 00:05:53,251 David Brinkley: Mr. President, in the last 126 00:05:53,085 --> 00:05:54,585 48 hours, there have been a great, 127 00:05:54,668 --> 00:05:56,210 many conflicting reports from there 128 00:05:56,293 --> 00:05:58,460 about what the CIA was up to. 129 00:05:58,543 --> 00:05:59,960 Could you give us any enlightenment on that? 130 00:06:00,043 --> 00:06:01,251 No. I don't think so. 131 00:06:01,085 --> 00:06:02,918 Okay. 132 00:06:04,043 --> 00:06:06,960 This is an NBC Special news report. 133 00:06:07,043 --> 00:06:08,376 The government of South Vietnam 134 00:06:08,460 --> 00:06:11,126 has been overthrown by a military coup. 135 00:06:14,460 --> 00:06:16,585 Robert Schenkkan: Now, this happens with our 136 00:06:16,668 --> 00:06:18,376 understanding and knowledge. 137 00:06:18,460 --> 00:06:21,376 And then the President of South Vietnam 138 00:06:21,460 --> 00:06:27,210 is shot and killed by a cabal of South Vietnamese Generals. 139 00:06:27,043 --> 00:06:32,251 Kalb: Once the US had led the coup to get rid of Diem, 140 00:06:32,085 --> 00:06:34,710 Kennedy realized that the United States 141 00:06:34,793 --> 00:06:38,835 had finally bitten into a bad apple. 142 00:06:40,501 --> 00:06:44,126 Kennedy: Monday, November 4th, 1963. 143 00:07:17,835 --> 00:07:19,001 Karl Marlantes: When that assassination 144 00:07:19,085 --> 00:07:22,168 took place, we owned it. 145 00:07:22,251 --> 00:07:24,210 It actually started that early in the 60s, 146 00:07:24,043 --> 00:07:25,876 in the Kennedy Administration. 147 00:07:28,543 --> 00:07:30,543 Fredrik Logevall: When Kennedy came into office, 148 00:07:30,626 --> 00:07:32,043 January of 1961, 149 00:07:32,126 --> 00:07:35,751 you had on the order of about 600 150 00:07:35,835 --> 00:07:38,960 US military advisors in South Vietnam. 151 00:07:39,043 --> 00:07:41,751 By the time he left on that fateful trip to Dallas 152 00:07:41,835 --> 00:07:45,876 in November 1963 there were more than 16,000. 153 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,626 ♪ (somber music) ♪ 154 00:07:48,710 --> 00:07:51,460 (applause) 155 00:07:58,085 --> 00:07:59,710 Lyndon Johnson: John Kennedy's death 156 00:07:59,793 --> 00:08:03,543 commands what his life conveyed... 157 00:08:03,626 --> 00:08:07,168 that America must move forward. 158 00:08:07,251 --> 00:08:09,626 I think Johnson genuinely felt 159 00:08:09,710 --> 00:08:12,626 that continuity in the government 160 00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:16,960 after this terrible event was essential 161 00:08:17,043 --> 00:08:20,210 to retaining the confidence of the American people. 162 00:08:20,043 --> 00:08:23,460 Johnson: And now, the ideas and the ideals 163 00:08:23,543 --> 00:08:30,418 which he so nobly represented must and will be translated 164 00:08:30,501 --> 00:08:32,251 into effective action. 165 00:08:32,335 --> 00:08:35,668 (applause) 166 00:08:45,876 --> 00:08:50,126 (marching drums) 167 00:08:50,210 --> 00:08:52,043 Walter Cronkite: Congress and the nation 168 00:08:52,126 --> 00:08:53,251 had reminders today 169 00:08:53,085 --> 00:08:56,126 that while the world seemed suspended by our tragedy, 170 00:08:56,210 --> 00:08:58,876 it really kept on it's whirling way. 171 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,251 In Vietnam, reports today of the bloodiest fighting 172 00:09:01,085 --> 00:09:02,918 in almost a year. 173 00:09:06,501 --> 00:09:08,001 How are we doing? 174 00:09:08,085 --> 00:09:10,793 Oh fine, I think Mr. President. 175 00:09:10,876 --> 00:09:13,085 I want you your dictate to me 176 00:09:13,168 --> 00:09:15,960 on the situation in Vietnam 177 00:09:39,501 --> 00:09:41,043 Yeah, yeah. 178 00:09:41,126 --> 00:09:43,543 Robert McNamara, Secretary of Defense. 179 00:09:43,626 --> 00:09:45,960 He had been the head of the Ford Motor Company, 180 00:09:46,043 --> 00:09:47,835 brilliant executive. 181 00:09:47,918 --> 00:09:52,918 Schenkkan: Famous especially for his cold analytic methods. 182 00:09:53,001 --> 00:09:54,293 Marlantes: He was a World War II vet. 183 00:09:54,376 --> 00:09:56,835 He wanted to stop wasting the Pentagon. 184 00:09:56,918 --> 00:09:58,210 Robert McNamara: We have increased the 185 00:09:58,293 --> 00:10:01,251 number of combat ready army divisions by 45 percent. 186 00:10:01,335 --> 00:10:02,668 Schenkkan: The expectation is 187 00:10:02,751 --> 00:10:04,668 that he would figure out Vietnam. 188 00:10:04,751 --> 00:10:07,710 (cheering) 189 00:10:09,751 --> 00:10:11,876 The position of my government is clear. 190 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,543 We are prepared to 191 00:10:13,626 --> 00:10:18,251 furnish whatever economic aid, whatever military training 192 00:10:18,335 --> 00:10:20,251 and whatever quanties are required 193 00:10:20,335 --> 00:10:23,043 and for as long as that is required. 194 00:10:23,126 --> 00:10:27,210 Vietnam 'Mung Nam'! 195 00:10:27,043 --> 00:10:28,876 Fredrik Logevall: The public Secretary of Defense 196 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,668 McNamara is all about kind of bullish bravado, 197 00:10:32,751 --> 00:10:35,626 that we are going to prevail, but privately 198 00:10:35,710 --> 00:10:39,126 McNamara is increasingly gloomy about the prospects. 199 00:10:43,376 --> 00:10:44,501 Murray Fromson: Until a strong government 200 00:10:44,585 --> 00:10:46,751 begins to function here in Saigon, 201 00:10:46,835 --> 00:10:49,460 the war against the Communists will continue to flounder. 202 00:10:53,043 --> 00:10:55,501 I'll tell you, the more I stayed awake last night 203 00:10:55,585 --> 00:10:57,168 thinking about this thing... 204 00:11:10,210 --> 00:11:11,460 Gen. William Westmoreland: Gentleman, this is a 205 00:11:11,543 --> 00:11:12,751 modern war. 206 00:11:12,835 --> 00:11:14,335 But it's a different war. 207 00:11:14,418 --> 00:11:17,085 We are here to advise and support 208 00:11:17,168 --> 00:11:19,626 our courageous Vietnamese ally. 209 00:11:19,710 --> 00:11:21,626 It was Westmoreland's misfortune 210 00:11:21,710 --> 00:11:24,126 to inherit the most complex war 211 00:11:24,210 --> 00:11:26,043 that we had fought to this time 212 00:11:26,126 --> 00:11:28,668 and I think his plan for the war was 213 00:11:28,751 --> 00:11:31,043 an entirely conventional plan 214 00:11:31,126 --> 00:11:33,085 in a very unconventional war. 215 00:11:33,168 --> 00:11:34,876 We're over here to win 216 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,418 and we have what it takes 217 00:11:36,501 --> 00:11:40,210 to assist them in this victory. 218 00:11:40,043 --> 00:11:41,793 Is that enough for you? 219 00:11:41,876 --> 00:11:43,085 I'm going to put this in two parts, 220 00:11:43,168 --> 00:11:46,085 so I'll be a little more candid in the second round. 221 00:11:46,168 --> 00:11:48,210 Lyndon Johnson doesn't want to be 222 00:11:48,293 --> 00:11:51,710 a President who found his Administration torpedoed 223 00:11:51,793 --> 00:11:53,043 by an unpopular war. 224 00:11:53,126 --> 00:11:55,043 Parenthetically however, 225 00:11:55,126 --> 00:11:57,126 we have a very interesting episode that happens 226 00:11:57,210 --> 00:12:01,668 in August of 1964 in the Tonkin Gulf. 227 00:12:01,751 --> 00:12:03,251 Three PT boats 228 00:12:03,335 --> 00:12:06,626 identified by our State Department as North Vietnamese, 229 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:09,460 attacked the USS Maddox, a Destroyer 230 00:12:09,543 --> 00:12:11,376 which was operating in the Tonkin Gulf, 231 00:12:11,460 --> 00:12:14,043 some 35 miles off the North Vietnamese coast. 232 00:12:16,751 --> 00:12:19,835 Logevall: This was not an unprovoked attack. 233 00:12:19,918 --> 00:12:21,626 There had been these covert actions 234 00:12:21,710 --> 00:12:23,126 against the North Vietnamese 235 00:12:23,210 --> 00:12:25,085 directed by the United States. 236 00:12:25,168 --> 00:12:27,168 And the North Vietnamese were responding 237 00:12:27,251 --> 00:12:30,085 to that on August 2nd. 238 00:12:30,168 --> 00:12:31,210 Reporter: This is a special report 239 00:12:31,293 --> 00:12:33,876 from CBS news in Washington. 240 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,918 Today, just pass the midday point, 241 00:12:37,001 --> 00:12:39,210 unofficial sources started to report 242 00:12:39,293 --> 00:12:41,251 additional Naval combat action 243 00:12:41,085 --> 00:12:42,918 in the same Tonkin Gulf. 244 00:12:48,168 --> 00:12:49,668 Now, I'd like to review briefly 245 00:12:49,751 --> 00:12:53,460 in chronological order, the unprovoked attacks 246 00:12:53,543 --> 00:12:55,710 which took place today, August 4th. 247 00:12:55,793 --> 00:12:57,085 Herring: We know now for sure 248 00:12:57,168 --> 00:13:00,001 that the second Tonkin Gulf incident didn't happen. 249 00:13:00,085 --> 00:13:02,126 But the Johnson Administration 250 00:13:02,210 --> 00:13:05,168 pretty much dismissed evidence indicating 251 00:13:05,251 --> 00:13:08,085 that an attack actually hadn't taken place. 252 00:13:08,168 --> 00:13:09,668 Schenkkan: There was this acute 253 00:13:09,751 --> 00:13:12,793 political pressure from the right wing 254 00:13:12,876 --> 00:13:17,251 to be strong, stand up to Communist aggression. 255 00:13:17,335 --> 00:13:18,501 Certainly I think 256 00:13:18,585 --> 00:13:20,376 a more prudent administration 257 00:13:20,460 --> 00:13:23,251 that wasn't looking for a pretext 258 00:13:23,085 --> 00:13:25,710 to flex some American muscle 259 00:13:25,793 --> 00:13:27,126 would have stepped back and said, 260 00:13:27,210 --> 00:13:30,168 "Let's determine what actually happened here 261 00:13:30,251 --> 00:13:33,210 before we launch any retaliatory action." 262 00:13:33,293 --> 00:13:37,501 Johnson: My fellow Americans, hostile actions 263 00:13:37,585 --> 00:13:40,293 against United States' ships on the high seas 264 00:13:40,376 --> 00:13:43,543 have today required me 265 00:13:43,626 --> 00:13:47,210 to order the military forces of the United States 266 00:13:47,293 --> 00:13:49,126 to take action in reply. 267 00:13:54,085 --> 00:13:55,876 That was the beginning 268 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,501 of the American air assault on North Vietnam. 269 00:14:02,918 --> 00:14:04,501 President Johnson has 270 00:14:05,918 --> 00:14:07,668 asked for and will soon get a congressional resolution 271 00:14:07,751 --> 00:14:11,668 authorizing the president to act as he is. 272 00:14:11,751 --> 00:14:15,043 The Tonkin Gulf resolution said that Johnson had 273 00:14:15,126 --> 00:14:19,376 all out power to use American military strength 274 00:14:19,460 --> 00:14:24,668 to defend American interest as he deemed necessary. 275 00:14:24,751 --> 00:14:26,376 Schenkkan: And that is the beginning 276 00:14:26,460 --> 00:14:29,501 of the slippery slope. 277 00:14:29,585 --> 00:14:31,251 Lyndon Baines Johnson 278 00:14:31,085 --> 00:14:33,918 has been elected President of the United States. 279 00:14:34,001 --> 00:14:36,210 And the landslide has carried him in 280 00:14:36,293 --> 00:14:38,668 for his first term in office 281 00:14:38,751 --> 00:14:41,043 on his own right by his own election. 282 00:14:46,251 --> 00:14:47,585 Communist Viet Cong guerrillas 283 00:14:47,668 --> 00:14:50,293 killed seven American and wounded 109 284 00:14:50,376 --> 00:14:53,001 yesterday in a sneak night time attack 285 00:14:53,085 --> 00:14:56,085 on the American helicopter base at Pleiku. 286 00:14:56,168 --> 00:14:58,793 I don't wish to speculate on 287 00:14:58,876 --> 00:15:00,793 action we may take in the future 288 00:15:00,876 --> 00:15:02,876 but I don't believe it'll ever be possible 289 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,126 to protect our forces against 290 00:15:05,210 --> 00:15:08,043 sneak attacks of that kind. 291 00:15:08,126 --> 00:15:10,751 Schenkkan: Vietnam keeps creeping 292 00:15:10,835 --> 00:15:14,335 into the Oval Office but Johnson stuck. 293 00:15:14,418 --> 00:15:18,501 He refuses to be the American president 294 00:15:18,585 --> 00:15:21,293 who loses Southeast Asia. 295 00:15:21,376 --> 00:15:24,376 So he has to keep going in deeper. 296 00:15:26,335 --> 00:15:28,251 Then we're going to send the Marines in. 297 00:16:14,085 --> 00:16:17,126 (explosions) 298 00:16:18,501 --> 00:16:20,210 Early in 1965, 299 00:16:20,043 --> 00:16:21,918 the President decided to launch 300 00:16:22,001 --> 00:16:24,918 'Operation Rolling Thunder'. 301 00:16:25,001 --> 00:16:27,210 A sustained bombing campaign 302 00:16:27,043 --> 00:16:30,710 directed against North Vietnam. 303 00:16:30,793 --> 00:16:31,918 Reporter: The emphasis is 304 00:16:32,001 --> 00:16:34,501 on the destruction of strategic enemy targets. 305 00:16:34,585 --> 00:16:36,210 Raids are designed to cut off supplies 306 00:16:36,293 --> 00:16:38,126 from the North to the Viet Cong rebels 307 00:16:38,210 --> 00:16:39,793 in the South. 308 00:16:46,126 --> 00:16:48,418 Caputo: Our first mission was 309 00:16:48,501 --> 00:16:50,460 more or less static defense 310 00:16:50,543 --> 00:16:52,751 of the principle airfield 311 00:16:52,835 --> 00:16:55,835 for the bombing missions over North Vietnam. 312 00:16:55,918 --> 00:16:57,418 Reporter: General, will this entail 313 00:16:57,501 --> 00:16:59,626 any offensive operations? 314 00:16:59,710 --> 00:17:01,043 No. 315 00:17:01,126 --> 00:17:03,376 No, I don't believe it will. 316 00:17:03,460 --> 00:17:05,043 The reason we put ground troops in 317 00:17:05,126 --> 00:17:08,251 was to protect airfields. 318 00:17:08,085 --> 00:17:09,876 And then we have to protect the ground troops 319 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,126 surrounding airfields. And it sort of, 320 00:17:11,210 --> 00:17:12,626 we backed into this war, 321 00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:14,293 not really understanding what we're doing. 322 00:17:16,585 --> 00:17:18,376 Let's go out. Let's go! 323 00:17:18,460 --> 00:17:19,626 Reporter: The soldiers move 324 00:17:19,710 --> 00:17:21,168 cautiously off into the jungle 325 00:17:21,251 --> 00:17:23,418 encountering only an occasional sniper. 326 00:17:23,501 --> 00:17:26,376 (gunfire) 327 00:17:26,460 --> 00:17:28,001 The Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese 328 00:17:28,085 --> 00:17:29,668 didn't play by our rules. 329 00:17:33,210 --> 00:17:35,168 (chatter amongst soldiers) 330 00:17:35,251 --> 00:17:36,710 They couldn't find the enemy. 331 00:17:36,793 --> 00:17:39,043 They were invisible, it was their country. 332 00:17:39,126 --> 00:17:41,751 (heavy machine gun fire) 333 00:17:47,085 --> 00:17:49,668 The enemy again broke contact, 334 00:17:49,751 --> 00:17:51,460 slipped away and disappeared. 335 00:17:53,585 --> 00:17:57,085 Caputo: Combat arouses emotions 336 00:17:57,168 --> 00:18:00,668 so powerful, that teaches you about 337 00:18:00,751 --> 00:18:04,043 human nature at it's best and at it'sworst. 338 00:18:04,126 --> 00:18:05,418 Unidentified soldier: Give the baby to mama-san. 339 00:18:05,501 --> 00:18:07,043 -Yeah. -Papa-san, come on. 340 00:18:07,126 --> 00:18:09,126 Give the baby to mama-san, come on. 341 00:18:09,210 --> 00:18:11,751 Unidentified soldier: VC? You VC? 342 00:18:11,835 --> 00:18:15,085 Yeah, you're VC, you're Viet Cong. 343 00:18:15,168 --> 00:18:16,251 Caputo: The rule of thumb was just 344 00:18:16,335 --> 00:18:19,626 not to trust anybody regardless of sex or age. 345 00:18:19,710 --> 00:18:22,376 (machine gun fire) 346 00:18:25,751 --> 00:18:27,335 Unidentified soldier: What's going on? 347 00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:47,168 (soldiers cheering) 348 00:18:52,085 --> 00:18:53,210 Neil Sheehan: If the Americans got 349 00:18:53,043 --> 00:18:54,460 sniper fire from a village, 350 00:18:54,543 --> 00:18:56,126 they didn't send a squad in 351 00:18:56,210 --> 00:18:57,501 to find the sniper and kill him. 352 00:18:57,585 --> 00:18:59,251 They just called for artillery 353 00:18:59,085 --> 00:19:01,126 or air strikes and blew the whole hamlet away. 354 00:19:12,001 --> 00:19:13,210 The United States was killing 355 00:19:13,293 --> 00:19:16,835 25,000 civilians a year. 356 00:19:16,918 --> 00:19:19,126 We were blowing up and burning down 357 00:19:19,210 --> 00:19:22,710 this country we were supposed to be saving. 358 00:19:22,793 --> 00:19:25,085 Success continues to be elusive 359 00:19:25,168 --> 00:19:26,626 in any meaningful way 360 00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:28,335 and Johnson keeps being told, 361 00:19:28,418 --> 00:19:30,251 I need more troops. 362 00:19:32,126 --> 00:19:33,043 Lyndon B Johnson: I have today ordered 363 00:19:33,126 --> 00:19:34,751 to Vietnam certain forces 364 00:19:34,835 --> 00:19:36,751 which will raise our fighting strength 365 00:19:36,835 --> 00:19:41,668 from 75,000 to 125,000 men... 366 00:19:41,751 --> 00:19:43,335 almost immediately. 367 00:19:43,418 --> 00:19:44,835 This will make it necessary 368 00:19:44,918 --> 00:19:46,835 to the raise of the monthly draft call 369 00:19:46,918 --> 00:19:51,626 from 17,000 to 35,000 per month. 370 00:19:51,710 --> 00:19:54,168 And this is the most agonizing 371 00:19:54,251 --> 00:19:58,210 and the most painful duty of your President. 372 00:19:58,293 --> 00:20:00,126 It's difficult to understand, 373 00:20:00,210 --> 00:20:01,543 why would you take the course 374 00:20:01,626 --> 00:20:04,251 that is going to lead to a large-scale war, 375 00:20:04,085 --> 00:20:06,210 even with what we now know is this 376 00:20:06,293 --> 00:20:09,043 deep skepticism on the part of Lyndon Johnson. 377 00:20:09,126 --> 00:20:11,835 But it seems he felt that no matter 378 00:20:11,918 --> 00:20:13,460 which way he went on Vietnam, 379 00:20:13,543 --> 00:20:15,626 he would be crucified. 380 00:20:21,585 --> 00:20:24,210 We're on the outskirts of the village of Cam Ni 381 00:20:24,043 --> 00:20:26,626 with elements of the 1st Battalion 9th Marines. 382 00:20:28,085 --> 00:20:30,710 (explosions) 383 00:20:33,751 --> 00:20:35,043 Reporter: It first appeared 384 00:20:35,126 --> 00:20:36,626 that the marines had been sniped at 385 00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:39,751 and that a few houses were made to pay. 386 00:20:39,835 --> 00:20:41,043 Reporter: Shortly after 387 00:20:41,126 --> 00:20:44,085 an officer told me, he had orders to go in 388 00:20:44,168 --> 00:20:45,710 and level the string of hamlets 389 00:20:45,793 --> 00:20:48,543 that surrounds Cam Ne village. 390 00:20:48,626 --> 00:20:50,126 Safer: I wasn't looking for that story 391 00:20:50,210 --> 00:20:53,126 but what I saw was absolutely shocking. 392 00:20:55,126 --> 00:20:58,710 (speaking Vietnamese) (weeping) 393 00:20:58,793 --> 00:20:59,876 Reporter: Today's operation 394 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:02,085 burned down 150 houses, 395 00:21:02,168 --> 00:21:05,085 wounded three women, killed one baby 396 00:21:05,168 --> 00:21:08,043 and netted these four prisoners 397 00:21:08,126 --> 00:21:09,668 who could not answer questions 398 00:21:09,751 --> 00:21:13,043 put to them in English. 399 00:21:13,126 --> 00:21:15,251 Rather: To a Vietnamese peasant, 400 00:21:15,335 --> 00:21:18,168 it will take more than presidential promises 401 00:21:18,251 --> 00:21:22,126 to convince him that we are on his side. 402 00:21:22,210 --> 00:21:25,126 The morning news had put the first bit 403 00:21:25,210 --> 00:21:26,293 of footage on the air. 404 00:21:26,376 --> 00:21:30,126 I had no idea we would have that kind of repercussions it had. 405 00:21:32,168 --> 00:21:34,085 Do you ever have any regrets about 406 00:21:34,168 --> 00:21:36,460 some of these people that you are leaving homeless? 407 00:21:36,543 --> 00:21:38,126 You can't expect to do your job 408 00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:39,668 and feel pity for these people. 409 00:21:39,751 --> 00:21:41,085 But I think it's sad in a way 410 00:21:41,168 --> 00:21:43,918 but I don't think there's any other way 411 00:21:44,001 --> 00:21:46,085 you can get around it, in this kind of war. 412 00:21:46,168 --> 00:21:47,626 Lawrence Wright: What Vietnam did 413 00:21:47,710 --> 00:21:50,710 to America via television 414 00:21:50,793 --> 00:21:53,501 was introduce us to a new kind of America, 415 00:21:53,585 --> 00:21:55,710 one that was not pure, 416 00:21:55,793 --> 00:21:58,126 one that committed the same kinds of atrocities 417 00:21:58,210 --> 00:22:00,168 that will-- are always committed in war 418 00:22:00,251 --> 00:22:02,418 but we had never allowed ourselves to see them. 419 00:22:06,376 --> 00:22:08,918 Safer: The President, I understand, 420 00:22:09,001 --> 00:22:11,085 called the senior executive at CBS. 421 00:22:11,168 --> 00:22:13,210 And Lyndon Johnson said, 422 00:22:13,043 --> 00:22:15,335 "Frank, this is your President. 423 00:22:15,418 --> 00:22:18,793 Your boys just shat on the flag of the United States." 424 00:22:21,710 --> 00:22:23,751 (ship born blaring) 425 00:22:23,835 --> 00:22:24,960 Walter Cronkite: Three months ago 426 00:22:25,043 --> 00:22:26,543 the first Air Cavalry Division 427 00:22:26,626 --> 00:22:28,876 shipped out from Charleston, South Carolina. 428 00:22:31,085 --> 00:22:35,668 Last week some of them came home. 429 00:22:35,751 --> 00:22:37,126 Most of these casualties were suffered 430 00:22:37,210 --> 00:22:39,335 in a battle of Ia Drang Valley. 431 00:22:39,418 --> 00:22:41,168 The most significant, yet fought 432 00:22:41,251 --> 00:22:42,918 by American troops in Vietnam. 433 00:22:43,876 --> 00:22:46,835 (gunfire) 434 00:22:48,085 --> 00:22:49,210 Safer: It looked at first like a 435 00:22:49,085 --> 00:22:50,918 routine Viet Cong attack 436 00:22:51,001 --> 00:22:53,793 but this is was a full scale sustained assault 437 00:22:53,876 --> 00:22:56,251 by not only the Viet Cong of South Vietnam 438 00:22:56,335 --> 00:22:59,460 but with North Vietnam and it's strong and dedicated army. 439 00:22:59,543 --> 00:23:03,293 (gunfire and explosions) 440 00:23:11,876 --> 00:23:12,918 Reporter: At first light 441 00:23:13,001 --> 00:23:15,460 the full shock came. 442 00:23:15,543 --> 00:23:17,251 Americans and North Vietnamese 443 00:23:17,085 --> 00:23:18,918 lay side by side in the grass. 444 00:23:21,126 --> 00:23:24,335 Kind of walked right into an ambush. 445 00:23:24,418 --> 00:23:27,293 It was pretty bad to listen to your friends 446 00:23:27,376 --> 00:23:28,876 crying out for help 447 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,918 and not being able to do a thing. 448 00:23:31,001 --> 00:23:33,210 We just... we were all pinned down. 449 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,335 I want to congratulate you on your 450 00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,543 distinguished victory. 451 00:23:41,626 --> 00:23:45,043 You were fighting regular North Vietnamese troops. 452 00:23:45,126 --> 00:23:46,418 The consensus 453 00:23:46,501 --> 00:23:49,043 of the military after Ia Drang is 454 00:23:49,126 --> 00:23:53,835 we can inflict enough casualties on them to win. 455 00:23:53,918 --> 00:23:55,543 Our armed forces are prepared 456 00:23:55,626 --> 00:23:57,751 to take the necessary casualties 457 00:23:57,835 --> 00:24:00,876 in order to seek out and destroy the enemy. 458 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,335 The question remains, are the American people 459 00:24:03,418 --> 00:24:04,751 prepared to lose 460 00:24:04,835 --> 00:24:07,085 more and more young men in Vietnam? 461 00:24:07,876 --> 00:24:10,918 ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 462 00:24:22,126 --> 00:24:25,085 ♪ (Band music playing) ♪ 463 00:24:27,668 --> 00:24:29,626 Reporter: The first Air Cavalry band 464 00:24:29,710 --> 00:24:32,168 will go anywhere for a parade, 465 00:24:32,251 --> 00:24:35,085 even within rifle range of the Viet Cong. 466 00:24:35,168 --> 00:24:36,710 Frederick Ackerson: The Viet Cong 467 00:24:36,793 --> 00:24:41,751 have terrorized you and have burned your homes. 468 00:24:41,835 --> 00:24:44,543 We are here to help you. 469 00:24:44,626 --> 00:24:49,001 And to show how much we are able to protect you, 470 00:24:49,085 --> 00:24:51,543 the Air Force are going to get 471 00:24:51,626 --> 00:24:54,876 some Viet Cong on the other side of the valley. 472 00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:59,085 ♪ (band playing) ♪ 473 00:25:00,168 --> 00:25:03,126 (explosions) 474 00:25:06,918 --> 00:25:08,668 The televising of the Vietnam War 475 00:25:08,751 --> 00:25:13,126 was like the split-screen reality in American culture. 476 00:25:13,210 --> 00:25:16,626 On one side you had what the official story was, 477 00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:19,043 which was "we're winning in Vietnam." 478 00:25:19,126 --> 00:25:22,418 And yet, every time that Americans looked up, 479 00:25:22,501 --> 00:25:24,835 what they saw was bodybags. 480 00:25:28,126 --> 00:25:29,960 Reporter: Marine Colonel Michael Yunck 481 00:25:30,043 --> 00:25:31,585 was hit by fire from a village 482 00:25:31,668 --> 00:25:33,751 while he was directing close air support 483 00:25:33,835 --> 00:25:35,085 from a helicopter. 484 00:25:35,168 --> 00:25:37,251 He saw women and children there 485 00:25:37,085 --> 00:25:39,918 and decided not to order an air attack. 486 00:25:40,001 --> 00:25:41,376 The Colonel talked about it 487 00:25:41,460 --> 00:25:44,085 while surgeons amputated his leg. 488 00:25:44,168 --> 00:25:46,001 Surgeon: I'll going to do all I can to save that leg. 489 00:25:46,085 --> 00:25:47,585 I know. 490 00:25:47,668 --> 00:25:49,293 God damn it! I hate to 491 00:25:49,376 --> 00:25:52,210 put bombs and napalm on these women and children. 492 00:25:52,043 --> 00:25:53,376 I just didn't do it, I just said 493 00:25:53,460 --> 00:25:54,793 they can't be there. 494 00:25:54,876 --> 00:25:57,168 I'm sure now that that's where they were. 495 00:25:57,251 --> 00:25:58,376 Sheehan: And as the causalities mounted, 496 00:25:58,460 --> 00:26:00,418 that was turning the public in this country 497 00:26:00,501 --> 00:26:01,793 against the war. 498 00:26:01,876 --> 00:26:07,251 (crowds chanting anti-war slogans) 499 00:26:07,085 --> 00:26:08,126 Reporter: How do you expect to be 500 00:26:08,210 --> 00:26:09,418 protected in this country 501 00:26:09,501 --> 00:26:11,293 unless you have people fighting for you? 502 00:26:11,376 --> 00:26:13,043 They are not fighting for me. 503 00:26:13,126 --> 00:26:14,126 They're not. They're not. 504 00:26:14,210 --> 00:26:15,626 This is genocide. 505 00:26:15,710 --> 00:26:16,835 These people are being killed. 506 00:26:16,918 --> 00:26:18,543 They are being killed. Why? 507 00:26:18,626 --> 00:26:21,168 Dissent spread across the campuses 508 00:26:21,251 --> 00:26:23,085 all over the country and 509 00:26:23,168 --> 00:26:25,710 give a sense of empowerment to students 510 00:26:25,793 --> 00:26:29,626 who were about to be drafted. But still couldn't vote. 511 00:26:29,710 --> 00:26:31,251 Reporter: A new type of protest 512 00:26:31,085 --> 00:26:33,543 and civil disobedience occurs in New York City. 513 00:26:33,626 --> 00:26:37,043 David Miller publicly burns his draft card. 514 00:26:37,126 --> 00:26:38,126 Reporter: Seven young and 515 00:26:38,210 --> 00:26:40,085 earnest protesters burned draft cards 516 00:26:40,168 --> 00:26:42,085 on the steps of a Boston court house. 517 00:26:42,168 --> 00:26:46,126 A group of high school boys set upon them with fists. 518 00:26:46,210 --> 00:26:48,876 Denis O'Neill: The draft was in place from World War II, 519 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,251 when you turn 18 you had to register. 520 00:26:51,335 --> 00:26:53,043 Reporter: In January 1965, 521 00:26:53,126 --> 00:26:56,210 5,400 young men were called for the draft. 522 00:26:56,043 --> 00:26:58,210 In December 1965, 523 00:26:58,043 --> 00:27:01,710 45,224 young men were called. 524 00:27:01,793 --> 00:27:04,251 This is one fact pouring in on the American conscience 525 00:27:04,335 --> 00:27:06,293 and causing increasing concern. 526 00:27:08,168 --> 00:27:09,710 Tom Hayden: It's a compulsory draft 527 00:27:09,793 --> 00:27:11,585 It forced you to make a choice. 528 00:27:11,668 --> 00:27:15,293 Vietnam against your will, jail against your will. 529 00:27:15,376 --> 00:27:17,960 Canada against your will. No good options. 530 00:27:19,418 --> 00:27:21,335 All kinds of ways are found to try 531 00:27:21,418 --> 00:27:22,835 to beat the physical. 532 00:27:22,918 --> 00:27:25,168 People are known to mutilate themselves. 533 00:27:25,251 --> 00:27:27,168 Starve themselves, declare that 534 00:27:27,251 --> 00:27:28,793 they were homosexual when they weren't. 535 00:27:28,876 --> 00:27:30,001 Herring: There were also 536 00:27:30,085 --> 00:27:32,418 escape hatches in terms of deferment, 537 00:27:32,501 --> 00:27:35,001 like deferments for college students, 538 00:27:35,085 --> 00:27:37,960 which means that working class, young people, 539 00:27:38,043 --> 00:27:40,543 are likely to get drafted before 540 00:27:40,626 --> 00:27:41,710 upper middle class. 541 00:27:41,793 --> 00:27:44,293 (crowd chanting) 542 00:27:44,376 --> 00:27:45,918 Their war was waged 543 00:27:46,001 --> 00:27:48,001 in a lot of living rooms in America. 544 00:27:48,085 --> 00:27:50,210 There's a real generational divide 545 00:27:50,043 --> 00:27:52,043 because my father's generation 546 00:27:52,126 --> 00:27:53,793 went off and saved Europe. 547 00:27:53,876 --> 00:27:58,043 I fully expected to have a military experience. 548 00:27:58,126 --> 00:27:59,918 But it was the wrong damn war. 549 00:28:04,418 --> 00:28:06,168 Reporter: Washington, November 27. 550 00:28:06,251 --> 00:28:08,335 The rally was to be held at the Washington Monument. 551 00:28:08,418 --> 00:28:11,960 The protestors began to arrive, about 20,000 strong. 552 00:28:12,043 --> 00:28:16,543 ♪ Most of the world ♪ 553 00:28:16,626 --> 00:28:20,335 ♪ Peace corps by day ♪ 554 00:28:20,418 --> 00:28:21,585 The whole world 555 00:28:21,668 --> 00:28:23,126 are watching us right now. 556 00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:24,626 I'm here to support the Constitution 557 00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:27,418 of the United States, I will not fight in Vietnam. 558 00:28:27,501 --> 00:28:29,501 (crowd cheering) 559 00:28:29,585 --> 00:28:32,210 We forget this. But there was always 560 00:28:32,043 --> 00:28:33,918 a substantial number of Americans 561 00:28:34,001 --> 00:28:35,418 who supported the Vietnam War. 562 00:28:35,501 --> 00:28:39,376 (booing) 563 00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:41,376 Go away! 564 00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:43,418 (crowd booing anti-war supporters) 565 00:28:43,501 --> 00:28:46,001 -You traitors! -I'll get you, you punk! 566 00:28:46,085 --> 00:28:47,835 Where is your son? 567 00:28:47,918 --> 00:28:49,543 My son's a marine! 568 00:28:52,376 --> 00:28:53,585 Wright: It's hard to recapture 569 00:28:53,668 --> 00:28:56,085 how intense that period it was. 570 00:28:56,168 --> 00:28:58,126 How morally conflictual 571 00:28:58,210 --> 00:29:01,043 it was in your relationship with your country, 572 00:29:01,126 --> 00:29:03,126 which is something we never questioned. 573 00:29:04,501 --> 00:29:05,835 Harry Reasoner: The pressure on Mr. Johnson 574 00:29:05,918 --> 00:29:07,501 to choose sides has been growing. 575 00:29:07,585 --> 00:29:09,293 Clinging to a middle line 576 00:29:09,376 --> 00:29:12,251 he tried to give one ear to the war hawks in America 577 00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:14,710 one ear to the doves but both ears to neither. 578 00:29:14,793 --> 00:29:17,043 We halted bombing in the North 579 00:29:17,126 --> 00:29:19,918 in the hope that the government in Hanoi 580 00:29:20,001 --> 00:29:23,418 would signal it'swillingness to talk instead of fight. 581 00:29:23,501 --> 00:29:24,960 But I regret to tell you 582 00:29:25,043 --> 00:29:28,251 that no signal came during those 37 days. 583 00:29:28,085 --> 00:29:31,501 Johnson feels alternately outraged 584 00:29:31,585 --> 00:29:34,168 that he's being attacked in this way, 585 00:29:34,251 --> 00:29:35,710 when he's doing the best he can. 586 00:29:35,793 --> 00:29:37,126 Until the day they decide 587 00:29:37,210 --> 00:29:39,126 to end this aggression 588 00:29:39,210 --> 00:29:41,210 and to make an honorable peace, 589 00:29:41,043 --> 00:29:43,085 I can assure you 590 00:29:43,168 --> 00:29:45,960 that we speaking for the United States of America 591 00:29:46,043 --> 00:29:47,793 intend to carry on. 592 00:29:52,376 --> 00:29:55,460 (explosion) 593 00:29:55,543 --> 00:29:56,710 Frank McGee: A large committee of 594 00:29:56,793 --> 00:29:58,501 responsible lawyers has examined 595 00:29:58,585 --> 00:30:01,168 the United States' legal position in Vietnam. 596 00:30:01,251 --> 00:30:04,293 It's conclusions, briefly and bluntly, are 597 00:30:04,376 --> 00:30:06,001 that the United States is violating 598 00:30:06,085 --> 00:30:07,335 the Unite Nations Charter, 599 00:30:07,418 --> 00:30:10,210 the Geneva Agreement and finally violating 600 00:30:10,293 --> 00:30:12,335 the United States Constitution which says, 601 00:30:12,418 --> 00:30:14,168 "Only Congress can declare war." 602 00:30:15,251 --> 00:30:16,793 When the Congress tried to ask questions 603 00:30:16,876 --> 00:30:18,293 about the Vietnam War, 604 00:30:18,376 --> 00:30:19,376 they've found it very difficult 605 00:30:19,460 --> 00:30:22,085 to get answers and sometimes they were lied to. 606 00:30:23,043 --> 00:30:24,210 Senator Wayne Morse: We're engaged in a 607 00:30:24,293 --> 00:30:27,335 historic debate in this country. 608 00:30:27,418 --> 00:30:29,335 We have honest differences of opinion. 609 00:30:29,418 --> 00:30:30,751 Herring: Fulbright hearings are 610 00:30:30,835 --> 00:30:33,918 one of the first times when people 611 00:30:34,001 --> 00:30:36,960 who weren't far on the left 612 00:30:37,043 --> 00:30:39,751 or extreme on the right, started raising 613 00:30:39,835 --> 00:30:42,210 some very serious questions about the war. 614 00:30:42,293 --> 00:30:44,168 Morse: And all I'm asking is 615 00:30:44,251 --> 00:30:47,543 if the people decide that this war should be stopped, 616 00:30:47,626 --> 00:30:49,210 are you going to take the position 617 00:30:49,043 --> 00:30:51,960 that it's weakness on the home front in a democracy? 618 00:30:52,043 --> 00:30:53,418 General Maxwell Taylor: I would feel that our people, 619 00:30:53,501 --> 00:30:55,543 we're badly misguided and did not understand 620 00:30:55,626 --> 00:30:57,543 the consequences of such a disaster. 621 00:30:57,626 --> 00:30:59,376 Well, we agree on one thing 622 00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:01,126 that they can be badly misguided 623 00:31:01,210 --> 00:31:03,043 and you and the President, in my judgment, 624 00:31:03,126 --> 00:31:05,168 have been misguiding them for a long time in this war. 625 00:31:13,668 --> 00:31:15,210 At the beginning of 1965, 626 00:31:15,043 --> 00:31:18,210 there were 23,000 American service men in Vietnam. 627 00:31:18,293 --> 00:31:21,085 Currently, there are about 267,000 628 00:31:21,168 --> 00:31:23,001 U.S fighting men in Vietnam 629 00:31:23,085 --> 00:31:24,501 and 18,000 more will be there 630 00:31:24,585 --> 00:31:26,168 by the end of this month. 631 00:31:27,501 --> 00:31:28,876 The commitment 632 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,210 became bigger and bigger and bigger. 633 00:31:31,293 --> 00:31:34,960 You could feel the spirit of the troops was draining. 634 00:31:37,668 --> 00:31:38,876 Reporter: How old are you? 635 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,460 22. 636 00:31:40,543 --> 00:31:41,626 Reporter: Volunteer? 637 00:31:41,710 --> 00:31:42,876 Nope. 638 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,918 Reporter: Would you? 639 00:31:44,001 --> 00:31:45,335 Nope. 640 00:31:45,418 --> 00:31:47,043 What's the worst thing about it? 641 00:31:47,126 --> 00:31:48,710 Getting shot, getting hit. 642 00:31:50,585 --> 00:31:51,543 Well you see... 643 00:31:51,626 --> 00:31:53,251 your buddies get hit. 644 00:31:53,335 --> 00:31:57,085 Living in the swamp, dirt. 645 00:32:00,751 --> 00:32:02,043 Karl Marlantes: Three days out in the bush, 646 00:32:02,126 --> 00:32:05,168 you'll be covered with ringworm and jungle rot. 647 00:32:05,251 --> 00:32:06,460 It was just the nature of the terrain 648 00:32:06,543 --> 00:32:08,126 and the weather. 649 00:32:08,210 --> 00:32:10,085 Reporter: It's hot in Vietnam, 650 00:32:10,168 --> 00:32:12,043 often hotter than the Mojave Desert. 651 00:32:12,126 --> 00:32:14,543 The temperature rises to 120 degrees. 652 00:32:14,626 --> 00:32:18,043 (breathing heavily) 653 00:32:18,126 --> 00:32:20,710 Caputo: If we got two hours sleep at night, 654 00:32:20,793 --> 00:32:23,085 I'd be surprised. 655 00:32:23,168 --> 00:32:24,293 Marlantes: You're almost in a 656 00:32:24,376 --> 00:32:26,876 hypnotic state. 657 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,293 I'm amazed that these kids didn't just 658 00:32:28,376 --> 00:32:29,710 completely fall apart. 659 00:32:29,793 --> 00:32:31,376 Humans are really, really tough. 660 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,543 Yes, I think so. 661 00:33:08,876 --> 00:33:10,543 Today I can tell you that 662 00:33:10,626 --> 00:33:12,793 military progress in the past 12 months 663 00:33:12,876 --> 00:33:14,710 has exceeded our expectations. 664 00:33:14,793 --> 00:33:18,126 Our policy remains what it was 665 00:33:18,210 --> 00:33:20,501 and has been, we will supply our commanders 666 00:33:20,585 --> 00:33:23,418 whatever they require to accomplish our objective 667 00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:25,085 in South Vietnam. 668 00:33:26,251 --> 00:33:27,543 Caputo: You started to distrust 669 00:33:27,626 --> 00:33:30,543 your own leaders because you started to say, 670 00:33:30,626 --> 00:33:33,085 "Well they're lying to us." I mean... 671 00:33:33,168 --> 00:33:36,251 or if they're not lying to us they 672 00:33:36,085 --> 00:33:38,043 don't know what's going on over here. 673 00:33:38,126 --> 00:33:39,251 If they don't know what's going on, 674 00:33:39,335 --> 00:33:41,168 what the hell is going on? 675 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,668 (gunfire) 676 00:33:43,751 --> 00:33:45,210 Get in the hole. -Soldiers: In the hole. 677 00:33:45,293 --> 00:33:48,668 (explosions) 678 00:33:48,751 --> 00:33:50,335 I'm glad they're on our side. 679 00:33:50,418 --> 00:33:51,835 Unidentified soldier: Hold out. 680 00:33:51,918 --> 00:33:52,751 Reporter: Alpha company has 681 00:33:52,835 --> 00:33:54,251 reached Hill 943. 682 00:33:54,335 --> 00:33:58,418 (gunfire) 683 00:34:00,668 --> 00:34:02,210 Force them in this way! Up! 684 00:34:02,043 --> 00:34:05,085 Reporter: After sweeping the area around 943, 685 00:34:05,168 --> 00:34:07,501 Hill 943 is taken. 686 00:34:09,876 --> 00:34:11,460 There is nothing to take. 687 00:34:13,710 --> 00:34:15,793 And now that the enemy is gone, 688 00:34:15,876 --> 00:34:19,668 there is no reason for the Americans to stay. 689 00:34:19,751 --> 00:34:21,043 Marlantes: When we abandoned the hill, 690 00:34:21,126 --> 00:34:22,710 it was crashing to our morale 691 00:34:22,793 --> 00:34:24,251 because your friends died. 692 00:34:24,335 --> 00:34:26,168 What was that all that about? 693 00:34:29,085 --> 00:34:31,168 Reporter: There is a hill in Vietnam 694 00:34:31,251 --> 00:34:33,960 which was assaulted twice, taken twice 695 00:34:34,043 --> 00:34:36,501 and abandoned twice by Americans. 696 00:34:36,585 --> 00:34:40,168 And today, 943 is again controlled 697 00:34:40,251 --> 00:34:41,835 by the North Vietnamese. 698 00:34:43,168 --> 00:34:44,460 Safer: Progress was not being made. 699 00:34:44,543 --> 00:34:46,168 There was no end in sight. 700 00:34:46,251 --> 00:34:48,835 How do you measure progress? 701 00:34:48,918 --> 00:34:52,043 So it was kind of an absurd situation. 702 00:34:52,126 --> 00:34:53,918 (indistinct chatter) 703 00:34:57,001 --> 00:34:57,876 Reporter: How do you feel about it now 704 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,126 that's it's all over? 705 00:34:59,210 --> 00:35:00,960 Pretty bad in a way, 706 00:35:01,043 --> 00:35:02,501 you live with him, you work with him, 707 00:35:02,585 --> 00:35:04,043 you get really attached to them. 708 00:35:04,126 --> 00:35:05,793 I had three that died in my arms, 709 00:35:05,876 --> 00:35:07,251 that hurt more anything else. 710 00:35:07,335 --> 00:35:14,210 (gunfire) 711 00:35:14,751 --> 00:35:17,085 We have to carry them out, you know. 712 00:35:17,168 --> 00:35:18,335 And that's when it bothers you. 713 00:35:18,418 --> 00:35:22,251 When you got to carry them through the slop, 714 00:35:22,335 --> 00:35:24,168 it really gets to you. 715 00:35:25,835 --> 00:35:30,085 ♪ (somber music) ♪ 716 00:35:37,210 --> 00:35:41,126 Marlantes: I'd lose friends and I would just like-- 717 00:35:41,210 --> 00:35:46,251 Wow. You know, I got a job to do here and 718 00:35:46,085 --> 00:35:47,710 you throw him on a chopper 719 00:35:47,793 --> 00:35:49,793 and that'll be the last you'll see him. 720 00:35:52,085 --> 00:35:54,501 And so you're constantly 721 00:35:54,585 --> 00:35:56,960 shoving it down because if you didn't 722 00:35:57,043 --> 00:35:58,626 you couldn't function. 723 00:36:11,168 --> 00:36:18,168 Crowd: Stop the war now! 724 00:36:18,251 --> 00:36:19,168 Reporter: These women came 725 00:36:19,251 --> 00:36:21,585 by the thousands to the Pentagon this week. 726 00:36:21,668 --> 00:36:23,251 They demand to see Secretary of Defense 727 00:36:23,335 --> 00:36:25,210 Robert McNamara to ask him 728 00:36:25,293 --> 00:36:28,876 to stop sending their sons to Vietnam. 729 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,585 And they showed their anger and frustration. 730 00:36:31,668 --> 00:36:35,043 Women's Strike For Peace: Stop war now! Stop war now! 731 00:36:35,126 --> 00:36:41,251 (yelling) 732 00:36:41,335 --> 00:36:47,043 (clapping) 733 00:36:47,126 --> 00:36:48,210 Given the nature 734 00:36:48,043 --> 00:36:50,251 of the enemy, it seems to me 735 00:36:50,085 --> 00:36:53,251 that the strategy we are following at this time 736 00:36:53,085 --> 00:36:54,876 is the proper one. 737 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,085 And that it is producing results. 738 00:36:57,168 --> 00:36:59,793 We will prevail in Vietnam 739 00:36:59,876 --> 00:37:01,168 over the Communist aggressor. 740 00:37:01,251 --> 00:37:03,085 (applause) 741 00:37:03,168 --> 00:37:04,793 Ricks: Fundamentally we didn't have 742 00:37:04,876 --> 00:37:06,376 a strategy in the Vietnam War 743 00:37:06,460 --> 00:37:08,460 except that of attrition. 744 00:37:09,918 --> 00:37:11,293 Marlantes: They talked about, 745 00:37:11,376 --> 00:37:13,501 "Well, we can kill 300 North Vietnamese 746 00:37:13,585 --> 00:37:15,293 for everyone of us." 747 00:37:15,376 --> 00:37:17,876 Do the American people care about the 300? 748 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,960 No. They care about the one. 749 00:37:33,043 --> 00:37:35,418 (gunfire and explosions) 750 00:37:35,501 --> 00:37:37,668 Reporter: 500,000 American troops, 751 00:37:37,751 --> 00:37:40,168 14,000 American dead, 752 00:37:40,251 --> 00:37:42,710 the war in Vietnam is no longer simply 753 00:37:42,793 --> 00:37:44,835 their war to win or lose. 754 00:37:44,918 --> 00:37:47,085 It's ours as well. 755 00:37:47,168 --> 00:37:48,876 And it has become the most divisive 756 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,001 in 100 years of American history. 757 00:37:51,085 --> 00:37:54,918 Peace now! 758 00:37:55,001 --> 00:37:56,501 So it was the first time that all these 759 00:37:56,585 --> 00:37:59,085 different factions and philosophies 760 00:37:59,168 --> 00:38:01,126 and personalities came together in one place. 761 00:38:06,168 --> 00:38:10,085 (crowd yelling) 762 00:38:10,168 --> 00:38:11,293 Tom Hayden: The seed was planted 763 00:38:11,376 --> 00:38:13,710 when there was a massive march on the Pentagon. 764 00:38:13,793 --> 00:38:15,710 People realized that we could 765 00:38:15,793 --> 00:38:18,085 go beyond light protest 766 00:38:18,168 --> 00:38:21,043 into more massive civil disobedience 767 00:38:21,126 --> 00:38:23,751 and shake-up the war makers. 768 00:38:23,835 --> 00:38:27,376 (yelling) 769 00:38:34,793 --> 00:38:38,126 McNamara had been managing the war since 1961. 770 00:38:38,210 --> 00:38:41,168 The man was just overwhelmed with guilt. 771 00:38:41,251 --> 00:38:44,126 In less than 60 days, I will observe 772 00:38:44,210 --> 00:38:47,543 seven years as Secretary of Defense. 773 00:38:47,626 --> 00:38:51,168 No one of my predecessors has served so long. 774 00:38:51,251 --> 00:38:53,585 I, myself, did not plan to. 775 00:38:53,668 --> 00:38:56,126 Robert McNamara leaves office. 776 00:38:56,210 --> 00:38:57,751 I think it's fair to say 777 00:38:57,835 --> 00:38:59,876 that he is, by that point, 778 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,460 tortured on a personal level by the war. 779 00:39:02,543 --> 00:39:06,085 (gunfire) 780 00:39:06,168 --> 00:39:07,126 Mike Wallace: Tonight, the Communists 781 00:39:07,210 --> 00:39:08,960 hit the very heart of Saigon, 782 00:39:09,043 --> 00:39:11,043 the brand new U.S. Embassy building 783 00:39:11,126 --> 00:39:13,251 and at least 10 cities in that war torn country. 784 00:39:16,251 --> 00:39:18,210 Kurlansky: The Tet offensive was 785 00:39:18,043 --> 00:39:20,085 the big show of the Viet Cong. 786 00:39:21,210 --> 00:39:23,668 It's huge, they got the Americans and 787 00:39:23,751 --> 00:39:25,418 the South Vietnamese completely by surprise. 788 00:39:27,835 --> 00:39:32,043 Kurlansky: It exposed how tenuous the U.S. hold was. 789 00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:36,793 Walter Cronkite: Who won and who lost 790 00:39:36,876 --> 00:39:39,210 in the great Tet offensive against the cities? 791 00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:40,710 I'm not sure. 792 00:39:40,793 --> 00:39:42,876 But terrible loss in American lives, 793 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,460 prestige and morale, 794 00:39:44,543 --> 00:39:47,001 and this is a tragedy of our stubbornness there. 795 00:39:47,085 --> 00:39:49,085 It seems now more certain than ever 796 00:39:49,168 --> 00:39:51,168 that the bloody experience of Vietnam 797 00:39:51,251 --> 00:39:53,668 is to end in a stalemate. 798 00:39:53,751 --> 00:39:55,793 When Walter Cronkite, 799 00:39:55,876 --> 00:39:58,376 who was the most trusted man in America 800 00:39:58,460 --> 00:40:01,210 said that, 'Lyndon Johnson said, 801 00:40:01,043 --> 00:40:03,210 "If I've lost Walter, 802 00:40:03,085 --> 00:40:05,876 I've lost middle America."' 803 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,835 Lyndon Johnson realized he was no longer 804 00:40:08,918 --> 00:40:12,585 in charge of the war. The war was in charge of him. 805 00:40:16,168 --> 00:40:17,876 Reporter: What'd you lose? 806 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,085 I had a... 36 when I started. 807 00:40:21,168 --> 00:40:24,710 We got a... 21 killed. 808 00:40:24,793 --> 00:40:26,668 What were you thinking about? 809 00:40:26,751 --> 00:40:29,210 I was thinking... 810 00:40:29,293 --> 00:40:32,543 of my wife and... 811 00:40:32,626 --> 00:40:34,251 my baby that I haven't seen, I guess. 812 00:40:34,335 --> 00:40:35,960 I got a baby coming in June 813 00:40:36,043 --> 00:40:39,126 and that was on my mind. 814 00:40:39,210 --> 00:40:41,126 I just knew we were going to be overrun. 815 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,793 You look at the history of Vietnam, 816 00:40:45,876 --> 00:40:48,126 it was a tragic 'Comedy of Errors' 817 00:40:48,210 --> 00:40:51,251 from beginning to end. 818 00:40:51,335 --> 00:40:53,710 And the tragedy of Johnson 819 00:40:53,793 --> 00:40:57,501 is that he achieved remarkable things, 820 00:40:57,585 --> 00:40:59,793 particularly in terms of Civil Rights 821 00:40:59,876 --> 00:41:03,251 but will be remembered for Vietnam. 822 00:41:04,751 --> 00:41:07,501 Schenkkan: It's the full Shakespearean 823 00:41:07,585 --> 00:41:09,168 wheel of fortune. 824 00:41:09,251 --> 00:41:10,918 The man who has nothing, 825 00:41:11,001 --> 00:41:12,626 who rises to everything, 826 00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:14,293 and then loses it all. 827 00:41:16,585 --> 00:41:20,710 In a moment of tragedy and trauma 828 00:41:20,793 --> 00:41:24,710 the duties of this office fell upon me. 829 00:41:24,793 --> 00:41:27,001 With American sons in the field 830 00:41:27,085 --> 00:41:28,918 far away 831 00:41:29,001 --> 00:41:30,710 and the America's future 832 00:41:30,793 --> 00:41:33,376 under challenge right here at home, 833 00:41:33,460 --> 00:41:36,085 I have concluded 834 00:41:36,168 --> 00:41:39,210 that I should not permit the presidency 835 00:41:39,043 --> 00:41:43,001 to become involved in the partisan divisions 836 00:41:43,085 --> 00:41:46,335 that are developing in this political year. 837 00:41:46,418 --> 00:41:50,876 Accordingly, I shall not seek 838 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,460 and I will not accept 839 00:41:53,543 --> 00:41:55,335 the nomination of my party 840 00:41:55,418 --> 00:41:57,376 for another term as your President. 61673

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