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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,418 --> 00:00:08,751 Johnny Tackett: In the average man's life 2 00:00:08,835 --> 00:00:10,626 there are two or three 3 00:00:10,710 --> 00:00:14,001 emotional experiences burned into his heart and his brain. 4 00:00:14,085 --> 00:00:16,043 And no matter what happens to me, 5 00:00:16,126 --> 00:00:18,918 I'll remember November 22 as long as I live. 6 00:00:21,668 --> 00:00:24,418 There's been an attempt on the life of President Kennedy. 7 00:00:25,251 --> 00:00:26,876 They are combing the floors of the 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,251 Texas Book Depository building to find the assassin. 9 00:00:31,085 --> 00:00:32,251 Did you shoot the President? 10 00:00:32,085 --> 00:00:33,918 Lee Harvey Oswald: I'm just a patsy. 11 00:00:35,126 --> 00:00:36,251 Tom Pettit: Oswald has been shot 12 00:00:36,335 --> 00:00:38,751 at point blank range, fired into his stomach. 13 00:00:39,335 --> 00:00:41,460 Police are working on the assumption 14 00:00:41,543 --> 00:00:44,251 that Oswald's murder was to shut him up. 15 00:00:45,460 --> 00:00:47,918 Elements of the Central Intelligence Agency 16 00:00:48,001 --> 00:00:49,751 killed John Kennedy. 17 00:00:50,293 --> 00:00:52,210 The story has been suppressed. 18 00:00:52,043 --> 00:00:54,126 Witnesses have been killed. 19 00:00:54,751 --> 00:00:56,793 We have a right to know who killed our president 20 00:00:56,876 --> 00:00:58,460 and why he died. 21 00:01:02,043 --> 00:01:09,001 โ™ช (The Sixties theme, Composer Blake Neely) โ™ช 22 00:01:55,168 --> 00:01:56,043 In Dallas 23 00:01:56,126 --> 00:01:57,960 preparations were already under way for 24 00:01:58,043 --> 00:01:59,293 extraordinary police protection 25 00:01:59,376 --> 00:02:01,210 when the President should arrive. 26 00:02:01,043 --> 00:02:04,168 You anticipate any trouble on the President's arrival? 27 00:02:04,251 --> 00:02:06,251 Because of what has happened here, 28 00:02:06,335 --> 00:02:09,960 previously, we would be foolish, I think, 29 00:02:10,043 --> 00:02:13,210 not to anticipate some trouble. I don't-- 30 00:02:13,043 --> 00:02:15,043 Really, I don't anticipate any violence. 31 00:02:22,793 --> 00:02:25,418 Here comes Air Force Number One, 32 00:02:25,501 --> 00:02:29,126 the President's plane now touching down. 33 00:02:30,376 --> 00:02:33,543 There's Mrs. Kennedy, and the crowd yells, 34 00:02:33,626 --> 00:02:35,501 and the President of the United States. 35 00:02:36,501 --> 00:02:38,710 And I can see his suntan all the way from here. 36 00:02:39,501 --> 00:02:43,126 Looking at how things actually went 37 00:02:43,210 --> 00:02:44,835 it wasn't just a trip to Dallas, 38 00:02:44,918 --> 00:02:46,251 it was a political trip 39 00:02:46,085 --> 00:02:49,460 preparing for the 1964 elections. 40 00:02:49,543 --> 00:02:51,168 Shaking hands now with the Dallas people, 41 00:02:51,251 --> 00:02:53,043 Governor and Mrs. Connally. 42 00:02:53,126 --> 00:02:54,960 Governor Connally on your left. 43 00:02:56,085 --> 00:02:57,418 Robert MacNeil: It was whether 44 00:02:57,501 --> 00:03:00,043 Kennedy could use his charisma and his influence 45 00:03:00,126 --> 00:03:03,001 to get all the squabbling Democrats 46 00:03:03,085 --> 00:03:04,168 in Texas to come together 47 00:03:04,251 --> 00:03:06,418 before the election the next year. 48 00:03:06,501 --> 00:03:08,126 And here comes the President now. 49 00:03:08,210 --> 00:03:10,168 In fact he's not in his limousine, 50 00:03:10,251 --> 00:03:11,960 he's departed the limousine and he is reaching 51 00:03:12,043 --> 00:03:14,043 across the fence shaking hands. 52 00:03:14,335 --> 00:03:16,168 In those days 53 00:03:17,335 --> 00:03:18,585 everybody could get a lot closer to the President. 54 00:03:18,668 --> 00:03:20,001 I was standing behind Mrs. Kennedy 55 00:03:20,085 --> 00:03:21,210 and I saw a hand reach through 56 00:03:21,293 --> 00:03:23,210 the chain link fence, and break off 57 00:03:23,293 --> 00:03:25,085 one of the red roses. 58 00:03:25,168 --> 00:03:27,085 Thousands of children now swarming, 59 00:03:27,168 --> 00:03:28,710 trying to get over the fence. 60 00:03:28,793 --> 00:03:30,376 The Dallas Police trying to keep them back. 61 00:03:31,293 --> 00:03:33,293 This is great for the people and 62 00:03:33,376 --> 00:03:34,876 makes the eggshells even thinner 63 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,251 for the Secret Service, 64 00:03:36,085 --> 00:03:37,960 whose job it is to guard the man. 65 00:03:38,376 --> 00:03:41,085 Well, the trip had gone terrifically well in Texas. 66 00:03:41,168 --> 00:03:44,335 Pretty hard to write a script for it going any better. 67 00:03:46,293 --> 00:03:48,210 Thousands will be on hand for that motorcade now, 68 00:03:48,293 --> 00:03:50,293 which will be in downtown Dallas. 69 00:03:50,876 --> 00:03:52,876 A number of my classmates were gone, 70 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,626 they were at the parade. 71 00:03:54,710 --> 00:03:58,085 My father had been invited to have lunch 72 00:03:58,168 --> 00:04:00,251 with Kennedy at the Trade Center. 73 00:04:00,335 --> 00:04:04,043 There was a mood, a climate of excitement. 74 00:04:05,543 --> 00:04:07,335 The speech of President Kennedy, 75 00:04:07,418 --> 00:04:10,335 at the Dallas Trade Mart, will be broadcast by 570 radio. 76 00:04:10,418 --> 00:04:12,085 Stay tuned for the President's Dallas speech 77 00:04:12,168 --> 00:04:15,043 at the Trade Mart on 570 radio. 78 00:04:17,418 --> 00:04:24,043 โ™ช (Elvis Presley singing Big Boss Man) โ™ช 79 00:04:49,168 --> 00:04:50,668 This bulletin 80 00:04:50,751 --> 00:04:52,126 just in to the KILT News terminal, 81 00:04:52,210 --> 00:04:54,376 Dateline Dallas. Three shots were fired 82 00:04:54,460 --> 00:04:55,751 at the motorcade of President Kennedy 83 00:04:55,835 --> 00:04:57,210 today, in downtown Dallas. 84 00:04:57,043 --> 00:04:58,793 Reporter: Police radios are carrying 85 00:04:58,876 --> 00:05:00,668 that the President has been hit. 86 00:05:00,751 --> 00:05:02,585 Parkland Hospital has been advised 87 00:05:02,668 --> 00:05:05,085 to stand by for a severe gunshot wound. 88 00:05:06,043 --> 00:05:08,418 This is Walter Cronkite in our news room, and... 89 00:05:10,001 --> 00:05:11,210 There has been an attempt 90 00:05:11,043 --> 00:05:12,876 on the life of President Kennedy. 91 00:05:17,626 --> 00:05:19,210 (indistinct speech) 92 00:05:27,043 --> 00:05:29,043 Just turn the mic on. 93 00:05:30,126 --> 00:05:31,918 I can't hear you, Johnny. What do you want? 94 00:05:32,001 --> 00:05:33,543 You want me to move back a little bit? 95 00:05:33,626 --> 00:05:35,251 Is it all right now? 96 00:05:35,918 --> 00:05:37,501 Is this all right? 97 00:05:38,668 --> 00:05:40,335 Ladies and gentleman, I'd like to introduce to you 98 00:05:40,418 --> 00:05:42,376 the Chief Cameraman and Assistant News Director of 99 00:05:42,460 --> 00:05:45,251 WFAA television. This is Bert Shipp. 100 00:05:45,335 --> 00:05:47,043 Bert, we have brought the people pretty much up to date. 101 00:05:48,126 --> 00:05:49,126 Would you tell them exactly 102 00:05:49,210 --> 00:05:51,168 what you know as of this point? 103 00:05:51,251 --> 00:05:53,418 Well, Jay, I was standing at the Trade Mart 104 00:05:53,501 --> 00:05:56,668 awaiting his arrival there. All of a sudden the-- 105 00:05:56,751 --> 00:05:59,876 we saw them approaching, they didn't slow down. 106 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:02,876 Matter of fact, they were going 70, 80 miles an hour past us. 107 00:06:03,626 --> 00:06:05,043 And then I jumped in a police car 108 00:06:05,126 --> 00:06:06,710 and went to Parkland. 109 00:06:08,543 --> 00:06:09,710 These two men come running in, 110 00:06:09,793 --> 00:06:11,043 one of them had a large, 111 00:06:11,126 --> 00:06:13,085 what appeared to be, a machine gun, 112 00:06:13,168 --> 00:06:14,585 and they were yelling for stretchers, 113 00:06:14,668 --> 00:06:16,001 and cots and everything. 114 00:06:16,085 --> 00:06:18,251 And the Governor, they brought him in first. 115 00:06:18,085 --> 00:06:19,251 Reporter: What happened after this? 116 00:06:19,335 --> 00:06:20,835 Rike: Well, then the President 117 00:06:20,918 --> 00:06:22,710 comes in near behind him and-- 118 00:06:22,793 --> 00:06:24,043 and they took them all-- 119 00:06:24,126 --> 00:06:25,960 both of them right to the operating room. 120 00:06:27,210 --> 00:06:29,585 Albert Thomas, Democrat of Texas, 121 00:06:29,668 --> 00:06:31,001 is standing outside the corridor 122 00:06:31,085 --> 00:06:32,668 of the emergency room, 123 00:06:34,168 --> 00:06:35,418 said he's been told the President was still alive, 124 00:06:35,501 --> 00:06:37,585 but in very critical condition. 125 00:06:40,085 --> 00:06:42,335 The President has not arrived here. 126 00:06:42,418 --> 00:06:44,043 A group of Secret Service men, 127 00:06:44,126 --> 00:06:45,335 and other officials is gathered 128 00:06:45,418 --> 00:06:47,085 where the President normally would enter, 129 00:06:47,168 --> 00:06:49,626 and discussing heatedly with one another 130 00:06:49,710 --> 00:06:51,043 some subject or other. 131 00:06:51,126 --> 00:06:52,626 Of course, we have no idea what. 132 00:06:52,710 --> 00:06:53,626 Reporter: Now, here's an announcement 133 00:06:53,710 --> 00:06:55,043 from the platform. 134 00:06:55,126 --> 00:06:57,085 Mr. Eric Johnson with an announcement. 135 00:07:15,585 --> 00:07:17,168 Thank you. 136 00:07:28,168 --> 00:07:29,751 A gentleman just walked in our studio 137 00:07:29,835 --> 00:07:32,043 that I am meeting for the first time as well as you. 138 00:07:32,126 --> 00:07:34,335 This is WFAA TV Dallas, Texas. 139 00:07:34,418 --> 00:07:35,876 May I have your name please, sir? 140 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,918 My name is Abraham Zapruder. 141 00:07:38,001 --> 00:07:40,168 -Mr. Zapruder? -Zapruder, yes, sir. 142 00:07:40,251 --> 00:07:42,710 Zapruder. And would you tell us your story please, sir? 143 00:07:43,751 --> 00:07:46,835 I got out... about a half hour earlier 144 00:07:46,918 --> 00:07:49,126 to get myself a good spot to shoot some pictures. 145 00:07:49,210 --> 00:07:50,960 Five year old boy and myself 146 00:07:51,043 --> 00:07:52,793 were by ourselves on the grass there, 147 00:07:52,876 --> 00:07:55,501 on Commerce Street, and I asked Joe 148 00:07:55,585 --> 00:07:56,543 to wave to him, and Joe waved, 149 00:07:56,626 --> 00:07:58,210 and I waved and the-- 150 00:08:00,043 --> 00:08:01,626 Reporter: That's all right, sir. 151 00:08:04,085 --> 00:08:05,876 As he-- As he was waving back, 152 00:08:06,585 --> 00:08:08,751 he was, he was-- the shot rang out 153 00:08:08,835 --> 00:08:10,085 and he slumped down in his seat. 154 00:08:10,168 --> 00:08:12,793 And then all of a sudden this next one popped 155 00:08:12,876 --> 00:08:14,876 and Governor Connally grabbed his stomach 156 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,835 and kind of laid over to the side. 157 00:08:17,335 --> 00:08:20,085 And another one, it was just all so fast, 158 00:08:20,168 --> 00:08:21,418 and President Kennedy reached up 159 00:08:21,501 --> 00:08:23,126 and grabbed-- looked like he grabbed 160 00:08:23,210 --> 00:08:25,251 his ear and blood just started gushing out. 161 00:08:25,085 --> 00:08:26,793 Did you see the person who fired these? 162 00:08:26,876 --> 00:08:29,626 No, not-- I didn't see any person fire the weapon. 163 00:08:29,710 --> 00:08:30,960 You only heard it? 164 00:08:31,043 --> 00:08:32,626 I only heard it. I looked up and saw 165 00:08:32,710 --> 00:08:34,418 a man running up this hill. 166 00:08:36,043 --> 00:08:37,168 Robert Caro: If it's a conspiracy 167 00:08:37,251 --> 00:08:38,376 not only the President was hit, 168 00:08:38,460 --> 00:08:39,710 the Governor was hit, 169 00:08:39,793 --> 00:08:41,251 who knows if the next shot 170 00:08:41,085 --> 00:08:43,001 would've been for Lyndon Johnson? 171 00:08:43,376 --> 00:08:46,210 Johnson's car pulls into the emergency bay 172 00:08:46,043 --> 00:08:49,126 at Parkland Hospital, four agents reach in, 173 00:08:49,210 --> 00:08:51,210 and they grab Johnson and pull him out, 174 00:08:51,293 --> 00:08:53,293 and start to run him down 175 00:08:53,376 --> 00:08:56,751 one corridor, around, looking for a safe place. 176 00:08:56,835 --> 00:08:58,668 Mr. Johnson, his whereabouts 177 00:08:58,751 --> 00:09:01,251 are being kept secret for security reasons. 178 00:09:02,251 --> 00:09:04,876 If anyone knows where Mr. Johnson is, 179 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,543 it is not us at this moment. 180 00:09:07,335 --> 00:09:08,626 Lawrence Wright: It was a signal moment 181 00:09:08,710 --> 00:09:10,168 in our cultural history, 182 00:09:10,251 --> 00:09:12,668 suddenly, it occurred to us, the right thing to do is 183 00:09:12,751 --> 00:09:14,335 to turn on the television. 184 00:09:15,251 --> 00:09:17,376 Reporter: Reports continue to come in, 185 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:20,460 but in a confused and fragmentary fashion. 186 00:09:21,251 --> 00:09:22,418 President Kennedy has been given 187 00:09:22,501 --> 00:09:24,668 a blood transfusion at Parkland Hospital, 188 00:09:24,751 --> 00:09:26,626 here in Dallas, in an effort to save his life. 189 00:09:27,168 --> 00:09:28,876 Lawrence Wright: It was odd because 190 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,418 there were no commercials, 191 00:09:30,501 --> 00:09:32,668 it was just a continuous experience. 192 00:09:33,251 --> 00:09:35,210 Cronkite: Two priests have entered 193 00:09:35,043 --> 00:09:39,043 the emergency room at Parkland Hospital where he rests 194 00:09:39,126 --> 00:09:41,043 after the assassination attempt, 195 00:09:41,126 --> 00:09:43,168 which now was about a half hour ago. 196 00:09:46,251 --> 00:09:48,085 What are your feelings right now, ma'am? 197 00:09:48,543 --> 00:09:52,085 I am absolutely shocked, stunned. 198 00:09:54,043 --> 00:09:57,918 We have the same birthday, and I'm just crazy about him. 199 00:09:58,543 --> 00:09:59,835 Who would want to shoot the President? 200 00:09:59,918 --> 00:10:01,251 What did he do? 201 00:10:01,335 --> 00:10:02,668 I mean, he's been doing so much for the country, 202 00:10:02,751 --> 00:10:04,251 someone goes ahead and shoots him? 203 00:10:04,335 --> 00:10:06,668 Reporter: A flash from Dallas. 204 00:10:06,751 --> 00:10:09,668 Two priests who were with President Kennedy say 205 00:10:09,751 --> 00:10:13,001 he is dead of bullet wounds. 206 00:10:13,543 --> 00:10:16,418 This is the latest information we have from Dallas. 207 00:10:17,335 --> 00:10:20,335 I will repeat, with the greatest regret, 208 00:10:20,418 --> 00:10:23,085 two priests who were with President Kennedy 209 00:10:23,168 --> 00:10:25,543 say he has died of bullet wounds. 210 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,501 Bob Huffaker: Malcolm Kilduff, 211 00:10:30,585 --> 00:10:32,501 the assistant press secretary, 212 00:10:32,585 --> 00:10:35,918 was filling in for the regular press secretary, 213 00:10:36,001 --> 00:10:38,210 and then he had to draw himself up 214 00:10:38,043 --> 00:10:40,710 to give the most fateful announcement 215 00:10:40,793 --> 00:10:44,251 that a press secretary might have ever had to give. 216 00:10:45,210 --> 00:10:46,543 All the cameras were rolling, 217 00:10:46,626 --> 00:10:48,543 and I remember he put his fingers 218 00:10:48,626 --> 00:10:51,918 like this on the desk, and pressed very hard 219 00:10:52,001 --> 00:10:53,668 to stop his hands trembling. 220 00:10:56,876 --> 00:11:01,043 John F. Kennedy died at approximately one o'clock, 221 00:11:01,126 --> 00:11:06,418 Central Standard Time... today, here in Dallas. 222 00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:11,001 He died of a gunshot wound in the brain. 223 00:11:12,043 --> 00:11:13,626 Close up. 224 00:11:18,626 --> 00:11:20,710 I have no other details 225 00:11:20,793 --> 00:11:22,835 regarding the assassination of the President. 226 00:11:27,210 --> 00:11:28,876 Reporter: The people standing here 227 00:11:29,460 --> 00:11:32,210 are stunned, just as all of us are, beyond belief... 228 00:11:34,210 --> 00:11:37,168 ...that the President of the United States is dead. 229 00:11:39,210 --> 00:11:42,001 All over the world, people are going to remember 230 00:11:42,085 --> 00:11:44,043 all their lives 231 00:11:44,126 --> 00:11:47,001 what they were doing when they first heard 232 00:11:47,085 --> 00:11:48,668 that President Kennedy had been killed. 233 00:11:50,668 --> 00:11:52,585 The crowds are standing around 234 00:11:52,668 --> 00:11:55,668 in silence and sorrow in the rain. 235 00:11:56,418 --> 00:11:58,751 The strange thing is, you don't even notice it's raining, 236 00:11:59,418 --> 00:12:01,543 and if you do notice, you don't care. 237 00:12:03,251 --> 00:12:04,460 Unidentified male: I just can't believe it. 238 00:12:04,543 --> 00:12:06,418 I feel like 239 00:12:06,501 --> 00:12:08,251 someone in my own family has died, 240 00:12:08,335 --> 00:12:10,251 and I just can't believe it. 241 00:12:10,085 --> 00:12:11,460 Ma'am? 242 00:12:11,543 --> 00:12:13,126 I can't... 243 00:12:13,876 --> 00:12:15,210 Like a daze. 244 00:12:15,085 --> 00:12:16,835 You don't know what's going on. 245 00:12:16,918 --> 00:12:19,251 Why? Why did it happen? 246 00:12:19,085 --> 00:12:21,168 "Who would've done such a thing?" is the question. 247 00:12:24,376 --> 00:12:27,001 In the first minutes and hours 248 00:12:27,085 --> 00:12:28,293 chaos and confusion was 249 00:12:28,376 --> 00:12:30,335 radiating out from the scene itself. 250 00:12:31,085 --> 00:12:33,043 It was very pervasive. 251 00:12:33,126 --> 00:12:35,251 Secret Service agents thought the gunfire was 252 00:12:35,335 --> 00:12:37,043 from an automatic weapon, 253 00:12:37,126 --> 00:12:39,710 fired possibly from a grassy knoll. 254 00:12:39,793 --> 00:12:42,251 I saw some police run up this grassy-- 255 00:12:42,085 --> 00:12:43,585 I thought they're chasing the gunman, 256 00:12:43,668 --> 00:12:45,251 I ran with them. 257 00:12:46,710 --> 00:12:48,085 The report is that the attempted assassins, 258 00:12:48,168 --> 00:12:50,501 we now hear, it was a man and a woman. 259 00:12:50,585 --> 00:12:51,918 MacNeil: I got to the top, 260 00:12:52,001 --> 00:12:54,043 looked around, a policeman went over the fence 261 00:12:54,126 --> 00:12:55,668 so I went over the fence too. 262 00:12:55,751 --> 00:12:57,251 There was nothing there. 263 00:12:57,335 --> 00:12:59,085 Cronkite: A television newsman 264 00:12:59,168 --> 00:13:02,043 said that he looked up just after the shot was fired 265 00:13:02,126 --> 00:13:04,543 and saw a rifle being withdrawn 266 00:13:04,626 --> 00:13:06,876 from a fifth or sixth floor window. 267 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,168 It was originally thought that the shots came from in here, 268 00:13:10,251 --> 00:13:11,751 and now it's believed that the shots came 269 00:13:11,835 --> 00:13:13,626 from this building here. 270 00:13:13,710 --> 00:13:15,210 I see police officers running back 271 00:13:15,293 --> 00:13:17,335 toward the Texas School Book Depository building. 272 00:13:17,418 --> 00:13:19,126 They are going to continue searching 273 00:13:19,210 --> 00:13:20,710 in that building for 274 00:13:20,793 --> 00:13:23,376 the would be assassin of the President. 275 00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:24,793 The center of downtown Dallas 276 00:13:24,876 --> 00:13:26,335 is in a virtual state of siege. 277 00:13:26,418 --> 00:13:28,085 They are combing the floors 278 00:13:28,168 --> 00:13:30,210 of the Texas Book Depository building 279 00:13:30,043 --> 00:13:32,751 in an effort to find the suspected assassin. 280 00:13:33,585 --> 00:13:36,001 In the building on the sixth floor 281 00:13:36,085 --> 00:13:38,085 we found an area near a window 282 00:13:38,168 --> 00:13:39,751 that had partially been blocked off 283 00:13:39,835 --> 00:13:41,751 by boxes of books, 284 00:13:42,335 --> 00:13:45,501 and also the three spent shells 285 00:13:45,585 --> 00:13:48,251 that had apparently been fired from a rifle. 286 00:13:49,751 --> 00:13:51,335 Crime lab lieutenant J. C. Day 287 00:13:51,418 --> 00:13:53,335 just came out of that building 288 00:13:53,418 --> 00:13:55,793 with a British .303 rifle. 289 00:13:55,876 --> 00:13:58,418 It was a 7.65 Mauser. 290 00:13:58,501 --> 00:14:01,710 A high powered Army or Japanese rifle of .25 caliber. 291 00:14:01,793 --> 00:14:03,626 A 3030 rifle. 292 00:14:04,585 --> 00:14:06,918 Much of the first things you hear 293 00:14:07,001 --> 00:14:08,335 are gonna be wrong. 294 00:14:08,418 --> 00:14:10,543 And to some degree 295 00:14:10,626 --> 00:14:13,210 you are constantly trying to separate out 296 00:14:13,293 --> 00:14:15,126 what seemed to be a fact. 297 00:14:16,085 --> 00:14:17,960 In Dallas a Dallas Policeman, 298 00:14:18,043 --> 00:14:20,501 just a short while ago, was shot and killed 299 00:14:20,585 --> 00:14:22,626 while chasing a suspect. 300 00:14:22,710 --> 00:14:26,126 J.D. Tippit, a good experienced police officer, 301 00:14:26,210 --> 00:14:28,418 was shot three times in the chest 302 00:14:28,501 --> 00:14:31,543 in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas. 303 00:14:31,626 --> 00:14:34,835 Then the manager of a shoe store saw 304 00:14:34,918 --> 00:14:38,210 the suspect walk into the Texas Theater. 305 00:14:38,043 --> 00:14:39,835 Watson: Someone has been arrested 306 00:14:39,918 --> 00:14:41,543 in one of the downtown theaters, 307 00:14:41,626 --> 00:14:43,251 they don't know if it was the man 308 00:14:43,335 --> 00:14:44,668 who shot the policeman, 309 00:14:44,751 --> 00:14:47,710 or the person who actually shot President Kennedy. 310 00:14:48,085 --> 00:14:49,626 Police suddenly jumped this man 311 00:14:49,710 --> 00:14:52,126 and started to drag him out of the theater, 312 00:14:52,210 --> 00:14:54,251 hustled him out to the car, as the crowd broke 313 00:14:54,335 --> 00:14:56,376 and started to maul the police officers 314 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:59,085 and grab this man trying to run with him. 315 00:14:59,168 --> 00:15:00,251 They shouted '"murderer", 316 00:15:00,335 --> 00:15:02,126 the officers hustled him into the car 317 00:15:02,210 --> 00:15:04,210 and ran away just as fast as they could. 318 00:15:07,376 --> 00:15:09,001 As we mentioned a short while ago, 319 00:15:09,085 --> 00:15:11,168 a number of arrests have been made in Dallas 320 00:15:11,251 --> 00:15:13,710 in the wake of President Kennedy's death. 321 00:15:13,793 --> 00:15:17,043 We have scenes of one of those arrests in the downtown area. 322 00:15:17,918 --> 00:15:20,293 This was just after a Dallas policeman 323 00:15:20,376 --> 00:15:23,335 was shot in the vicinity of a downtown movie house. 324 00:15:25,085 --> 00:15:26,751 Paul, Paul Bentley. 325 00:15:27,668 --> 00:15:29,251 How did you approach him? Tell us the story. 326 00:15:29,335 --> 00:15:32,251 I approached him and as he approached me 327 00:15:32,085 --> 00:15:33,668 the man hit McDonald in the face his left hand, 328 00:15:33,751 --> 00:15:36,418 reached for the pistol with his right hand, 329 00:15:36,501 --> 00:15:37,960 and as he reached for his pistol 330 00:15:38,043 --> 00:15:40,460 I grabbed him along with two or three other officers. 331 00:15:40,543 --> 00:15:42,043 What did he say to you after he was arrested? 332 00:15:42,126 --> 00:15:44,626 He just said this is it. 333 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:46,293 It's all over with now. 334 00:15:54,876 --> 00:15:56,460 This is a picture of him. 335 00:15:57,751 --> 00:16:00,543 He probably does not look exactly like this now 336 00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:02,210 after he's been questioned. 337 00:16:03,460 --> 00:16:05,168 That's Lee Oswald. 338 00:16:05,876 --> 00:16:07,126 Caro: The President was shot, 339 00:16:07,210 --> 00:16:10,126 then a police officer was shot, then someone named 340 00:16:10,210 --> 00:16:12,543 Lee Harvey Oswald is arrested. 341 00:16:13,335 --> 00:16:17,668 Oswald may be a suspect in the assassination. Who is he? 342 00:16:17,751 --> 00:16:20,085 Lee Oswald of Dallas, a former Marine 343 00:16:20,168 --> 00:16:21,668 who spent some time in Russia, 344 00:16:21,751 --> 00:16:23,876 who at one time had applied for Soviet citizenship. 345 00:16:25,168 --> 00:16:29,501 The description that we had of the suspect in Oak Cliff 346 00:16:29,585 --> 00:16:33,501 was similar to the description we had, 347 00:16:33,585 --> 00:16:36,085 and the man we were looking for as the assassin. 348 00:16:36,168 --> 00:16:38,710 But at that time we had not been able to connect 349 00:16:38,793 --> 00:16:40,501 the two in any way. 350 00:16:40,585 --> 00:16:43,251 Down there in this third floor corridor 351 00:16:43,085 --> 00:16:45,251 a crowd of cameramen, reporters 352 00:16:45,085 --> 00:16:47,418 wait for a possible appearance 353 00:16:47,501 --> 00:16:50,085 of the man accused of killing President Kennedy 354 00:16:50,168 --> 00:16:51,751 and a Dallas police officer. 355 00:16:53,126 --> 00:16:55,126 Now, there will be a great deal of confusion. 356 00:16:55,210 --> 00:16:57,418 Mr. Oswald is put through the door. 357 00:16:57,501 --> 00:16:59,085 I don't know if you saw him. 358 00:17:00,251 --> 00:17:02,251 Oswald lives at 1026 North Beckley. 359 00:17:03,085 --> 00:17:07,751 He's an employee of a book binding firm in the building 360 00:17:07,835 --> 00:17:11,168 from which the police and secret servicemen believe 361 00:17:11,251 --> 00:17:12,835 the President was shot today. 362 00:17:16,376 --> 00:17:17,710 Mrs. Kennedy 363 00:17:17,793 --> 00:17:20,293 accompanied the body in an ambulance 364 00:17:20,376 --> 00:17:22,168 from the hospital to the airport, 365 00:17:22,251 --> 00:17:24,168 where it will be flown back to Washington. 366 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,293 They got everyone out of the emergency room, 367 00:17:27,376 --> 00:17:29,293 and the hospital completely, on the first floor there, 368 00:17:29,376 --> 00:17:32,210 and they came out and told us that 369 00:17:33,085 --> 00:17:36,210 we would have to help move the remains into a casket. 370 00:17:37,210 --> 00:17:38,793 Huffaker: Lyndon Johnson had ordered 371 00:17:38,876 --> 00:17:41,085 that the body be brought immediately 372 00:17:41,168 --> 00:17:42,543 to Air Force One. 373 00:17:42,626 --> 00:17:45,168 So, there was a little tug of war, 374 00:17:45,251 --> 00:17:50,168 it almost shook the crucifix off of the top of the coffin 375 00:17:50,251 --> 00:17:52,085 as they were trying to 376 00:17:52,501 --> 00:17:54,751 get that coffin out of the hospital. 377 00:17:54,835 --> 00:17:56,418 Took him out and put him into the... 378 00:17:57,585 --> 00:18:01,251 ...hearse, and one of the secret serviceman, 379 00:18:01,085 --> 00:18:03,710 well, about two or three of them got into a hearse, 380 00:18:03,793 --> 00:18:06,251 and just drove off and left Mr. O'Neil 381 00:18:06,335 --> 00:18:08,168 and the rest of us just standing there. 382 00:18:11,085 --> 00:18:13,210 Vice President Johnson is expected to be sworn in 383 00:18:13,293 --> 00:18:15,543 as President aboard an airliner, 384 00:18:15,626 --> 00:18:18,126 before flying back to the nation's capital. 385 00:18:19,793 --> 00:18:21,251 Max Holland: Not everyone realized 386 00:18:21,085 --> 00:18:23,043 that Johnson was already the President 387 00:18:23,126 --> 00:18:25,876 because he in fact had taken the oath in January '61, 388 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,835 the same oath the President takes. 389 00:18:29,085 --> 00:18:32,585 Johnson wanted to show the American people that 390 00:18:32,668 --> 00:18:36,043 the government was functioning without interruption. 391 00:18:36,126 --> 00:18:40,210 And also, perhaps, he wanted to show that 392 00:18:40,043 --> 00:18:43,251 his predecessor's family bore him no ill will 393 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,543 for the assassination. 394 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,043 Cronkite: Lyndon Baines Johnson 395 00:18:48,126 --> 00:18:50,460 is flying back to Washington 396 00:18:50,543 --> 00:18:52,251 to take the reins of government, 397 00:18:52,085 --> 00:18:54,585 at which time President Johnson 398 00:18:54,668 --> 00:18:58,418 will have to take into his hands the reins 399 00:18:58,501 --> 00:19:00,793 of the most powerful nation in the world. 400 00:19:02,043 --> 00:19:06,210 We think November 22, 1963, 401 00:19:06,043 --> 00:19:08,585 as a date when a president was killed. 402 00:19:09,585 --> 00:19:13,918 But it was also a day when a president was created. 403 00:19:18,585 --> 00:19:20,043 Is there any doubt in your mind, Chief, 404 00:19:20,126 --> 00:19:21,710 that Oswald is the man who killed the President? 405 00:19:21,793 --> 00:19:24,793 I think this is the man that killed the President, yes. 406 00:19:24,876 --> 00:19:26,376 Is there any evidence that anyone else 407 00:19:26,460 --> 00:19:28,501 may have been linked with Oswald to this shooting? 408 00:19:28,585 --> 00:19:30,418 At this time we don't believe so. 409 00:19:33,168 --> 00:19:34,460 Lee Harvey Oswald: I-- I don't know 410 00:19:34,543 --> 00:19:36,043 what this is all about. 411 00:19:36,126 --> 00:19:37,251 Reporter: You kill the President? 412 00:19:37,335 --> 00:19:39,626 No, sir, I didn't. People keep asking me that. 413 00:19:39,710 --> 00:19:40,918 Reporter: Did you shoot the President? 414 00:19:41,001 --> 00:19:42,293 I work in that building. 415 00:19:42,376 --> 00:19:43,710 Were you in the building at the time? 416 00:19:43,793 --> 00:19:46,168 Naturally, if I work in that building, yes, sir. 417 00:19:47,418 --> 00:19:48,460 Reporter: Did you shoot the President? 418 00:19:48,543 --> 00:19:50,043 Oswald: No. They're taking me in 419 00:19:50,126 --> 00:19:52,335 because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union. 420 00:19:53,001 --> 00:19:54,585 I'm just a patsy. 421 00:20:00,001 --> 00:20:02,710 This is room 317, Homicide Bureau, 422 00:20:02,793 --> 00:20:05,043 here at the Dallas Police Station. 423 00:20:05,126 --> 00:20:08,293 As you see they are bringing the weapon 424 00:20:08,376 --> 00:20:10,585 allegedly used in the assassination 425 00:20:10,668 --> 00:20:13,126 of President John F. Kennedy, this afternoon, 426 00:20:13,210 --> 00:20:14,876 at 12:30, here in Dallas. 427 00:20:15,751 --> 00:20:18,751 6.5 apparently made in Italy in 1940. 428 00:20:21,460 --> 00:20:23,126 Police have traced the rifle, 429 00:20:23,210 --> 00:20:26,876 purchased in Chicago, by mail order to Oswald. 430 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,043 He bought it under the alias of A. Hidell. 431 00:20:29,126 --> 00:20:31,043 Handwriting experts have established 432 00:20:31,126 --> 00:20:33,960 that the handwriting on the purchase order 433 00:20:34,043 --> 00:20:35,876 was in fact made by Oswald. 434 00:20:36,793 --> 00:20:40,085 At a price of $12.78, 435 00:20:40,168 --> 00:20:42,168 the life of the President of the United States, 436 00:20:42,251 --> 00:20:44,335 apparently, was bought. 437 00:20:44,418 --> 00:20:46,335 In the wake of the Kennedy assassination 438 00:20:46,418 --> 00:20:48,168 the Dallas Police, on the one hand, 439 00:20:48,251 --> 00:20:50,126 they were committing all of their resources 440 00:20:50,210 --> 00:20:51,585 to try and solve the crime. 441 00:20:51,668 --> 00:20:53,251 Could you move him in the doorway? 442 00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:55,126 Would you get him in the doorway? 443 00:20:55,210 --> 00:20:56,126 On the other hand, 444 00:20:56,210 --> 00:20:57,918 they were ill equipped to handle 445 00:20:58,001 --> 00:21:01,168 this tsunami of reporters. 446 00:21:07,251 --> 00:21:11,251 Well, I was questioned by Judge, however, 447 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,418 I protested at that time that I was 448 00:21:13,501 --> 00:21:15,543 not allowed legal representation. 449 00:21:16,876 --> 00:21:18,668 In bringing Oswald out, they were, 450 00:21:18,751 --> 00:21:20,085 of course, doing something 451 00:21:20,168 --> 00:21:22,001 that you would never see happen today. 452 00:21:22,085 --> 00:21:25,001 But they were trying to cooperate with the press, 453 00:21:25,085 --> 00:21:26,751 with the understanding that there would 454 00:21:26,835 --> 00:21:29,043 not be questions shouted at him. 455 00:21:29,126 --> 00:21:30,876 Reporter: Did you kill the President? 456 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,168 No, I have not been charged with that. In fact nobody has 457 00:21:33,251 --> 00:21:35,085 said that to me yet. 458 00:21:35,460 --> 00:21:36,585 First thing I heard about it was 459 00:21:36,668 --> 00:21:39,043 when the newspaper reporters in the hall... 460 00:21:40,251 --> 00:21:42,001 ...asked me that question. 461 00:21:42,085 --> 00:21:43,376 You have been charged with that. 462 00:21:43,460 --> 00:21:44,918 -Sir? -You have been... 463 00:21:45,001 --> 00:21:47,210 Okay. We can't hear you down here. 464 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,543 Reporter: What did you do in Russia? 465 00:21:52,460 --> 00:21:54,501 Mr. Oswald, how did you hurt your eye? 466 00:21:54,585 --> 00:21:56,168 A policeman hit me. 467 00:21:59,876 --> 00:22:01,418 Bill Lord: At 1:35 this morning 468 00:22:01,501 --> 00:22:03,210 a complaint was read, 469 00:22:03,293 --> 00:22:06,376 a charge that, quote, "Lee Harvey Oswald 470 00:22:06,460 --> 00:22:10,376 did voluntarily and with malice of forethought 471 00:22:10,460 --> 00:22:14,168 kill John F. Kennedy by shooting him with a gun." End quote. 472 00:22:14,668 --> 00:22:16,418 Following the reading of the complaint 473 00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:19,210 Oswald said, "That's ridiculous." 474 00:22:24,001 --> 00:22:25,668 Within hours of the assassination, 475 00:22:25,751 --> 00:22:27,043 it was very obvious 476 00:22:27,126 --> 00:22:29,668 to virtually everyone in Dallas law enforcement 477 00:22:29,751 --> 00:22:31,918 that Oswald had killed Kennedy. 478 00:22:32,001 --> 00:22:33,876 Chief, can you tell us in summary 479 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,085 what directly links Oswald 480 00:22:36,168 --> 00:22:38,001 to the killing of the President? 481 00:22:39,001 --> 00:22:41,251 The fact that he was on the floor where the shots were 482 00:22:41,085 --> 00:22:43,460 fired from, immediately before the shots were fired. 483 00:22:43,543 --> 00:22:44,668 The fact that he was seen 484 00:22:44,751 --> 00:22:46,335 carrying a package to the building. 485 00:22:46,835 --> 00:22:48,501 The fact that... 486 00:22:48,585 --> 00:22:50,085 When did he bring that package? 487 00:22:50,168 --> 00:22:51,960 Yesterday morning. 488 00:22:52,043 --> 00:22:54,668 After the shooting in Dealey Plaza, Oswald was the 489 00:22:54,751 --> 00:22:57,210 only employee at the book depository 490 00:22:57,043 --> 00:22:58,876 that fled the building. 491 00:22:59,043 --> 00:23:00,626 Forty-five minutes later, 492 00:23:00,710 --> 00:23:03,126 he shoots and kills Officer J. D. Tippit, 493 00:23:03,210 --> 00:23:06,418 half hour later, at the Texas Theater, he resisted arrest 494 00:23:06,501 --> 00:23:08,085 by pulling his gun on the arresting officer. 495 00:23:09,501 --> 00:23:11,001 Reporter: The door has just opened. 496 00:23:11,085 --> 00:23:13,501 During 12 hours of interrogation 497 00:23:13,585 --> 00:23:16,085 by the Dallas Police Department, over the weekend, 498 00:23:16,168 --> 00:23:19,335 he told one provable lie after another. 499 00:23:19,418 --> 00:23:20,793 Reporter: Did you buy that rifle? 500 00:23:20,876 --> 00:23:23,251 That's the facts you people have been given, 501 00:23:23,085 --> 00:23:25,210 but I emphatically deny these charges. 502 00:23:25,918 --> 00:23:28,001 Within a day or so thereafter, 503 00:23:28,085 --> 00:23:31,376 when they discovered what a complete nut this guy was, 504 00:23:32,043 --> 00:23:35,293 they were satisfied beyond all reasonable doubt 505 00:23:35,376 --> 00:23:37,960 that Oswald had acted alone. 506 00:23:38,043 --> 00:23:40,126 There's only one thing that I can tell you, 507 00:23:40,210 --> 00:23:41,543 without going into the evidence, 508 00:23:41,626 --> 00:23:43,210 that this case is cinched, 509 00:23:43,918 --> 00:23:45,876 that this man killed the President. 510 00:23:47,043 --> 00:23:50,126 And there is no question in my mind about it. 511 00:23:50,210 --> 00:23:52,376 We plan to transfer this man, 512 00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:55,918 not tonight, the van will be here by 513 00:23:56,251 --> 00:23:59,251 no later than ten o'clock in the morning, where it will-- 514 00:23:59,085 --> 00:24:01,001 That will be early enough. 515 00:24:01,085 --> 00:24:02,335 Chief, do you have any concern 516 00:24:02,418 --> 00:24:03,918 for the safety of your prisoner, 517 00:24:04,001 --> 00:24:06,001 in view of the high feeling among the people of Dallas 518 00:24:06,085 --> 00:24:07,668 over the assassination of the President? 519 00:24:08,126 --> 00:24:09,460 No, but precautions 520 00:24:09,543 --> 00:24:11,876 will be taken, of course, but I'm not-- 521 00:24:12,501 --> 00:24:14,543 I don't think that the people will 522 00:24:14,626 --> 00:24:16,210 try to take the prisoner away from us. 523 00:24:30,585 --> 00:24:34,501 (indistinct speech) 524 00:24:34,585 --> 00:24:36,335 Lee Oswald is to be taken soon 525 00:24:37,001 --> 00:24:38,251 to the county jail. 526 00:24:38,085 --> 00:24:39,376 Chief Jesse Curry: That's true. 527 00:24:39,460 --> 00:24:41,585 And you are going to take him there how, sir? 528 00:24:42,668 --> 00:24:45,460 We are going to use an armored motor vehicle to take him. 529 00:24:46,585 --> 00:24:48,168 Priscilla McMillan: Dallas Police 530 00:24:48,251 --> 00:24:52,835 meant to transfer Lee into the regular prison 531 00:24:52,918 --> 00:24:56,001 during the night, to avoid the press. 532 00:24:57,460 --> 00:25:00,168 And then someone must've overruled them 533 00:25:00,251 --> 00:25:04,751 so that Lee could be photographed by the press 534 00:25:04,835 --> 00:25:06,418 during the transfer. 535 00:25:06,835 --> 00:25:09,168 We are standing by awaiting the transfer of Oswald 536 00:25:09,251 --> 00:25:11,668 from city jail to county jail. 537 00:25:11,751 --> 00:25:13,585 And, for that report, 538 00:25:13,668 --> 00:25:16,251 here is ABC's Bill Lord at the city jail. 539 00:25:16,335 --> 00:25:18,251 Bill, what's the situation? 540 00:25:18,085 --> 00:25:19,835 Well, I am presently in the basement 541 00:25:19,918 --> 00:25:21,543 of the Dallas municipal building, 542 00:25:21,626 --> 00:25:23,960 and it is like an armed camp. 543 00:25:24,043 --> 00:25:26,251 Police officials are frankly worried. 544 00:25:26,335 --> 00:25:29,835 They don't want anything to happen to Oswald. 545 00:25:31,751 --> 00:25:33,251 It is through this corridor of 546 00:25:33,085 --> 00:25:35,876 newsmen, photographers, and policemen 547 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,168 that Lee Oswald will be brought to a vehicle 548 00:25:38,251 --> 00:25:41,126 for transfer to the Dallas County Jail, 549 00:25:41,210 --> 00:25:44,168 a distance of about 15 blocks, 550 00:25:44,251 --> 00:25:47,168 which ironically is just across from the scene 551 00:25:47,251 --> 00:25:50,210 where President Kennedy was assassinated on Friday. 552 00:25:51,210 --> 00:25:54,460 Anticipation has built up here in downtown Dallas 553 00:25:54,543 --> 00:25:57,126 in front of the county jail. 554 00:25:57,210 --> 00:25:59,168 They're waiting for a glimpse of Lee Oswald. 555 00:26:00,335 --> 00:26:02,710 Reporter: There he is. Here he comes. 556 00:26:02,793 --> 00:26:04,501 Now, the prisoner wearing the... 557 00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:06,793 Let's go. 558 00:26:07,793 --> 00:26:09,418 Let me have it, I want it. 559 00:26:13,168 --> 00:26:16,376 Being led out by Captain Fritz, 560 00:26:17,251 --> 00:26:19,085 here is the prisoner. 561 00:26:19,626 --> 00:26:20,543 There is Lee. 562 00:26:20,626 --> 00:26:22,210 (gunshot) 563 00:26:23,835 --> 00:26:26,168 He's been shot! He's been shot! 564 00:26:26,251 --> 00:26:28,085 Lee Oswald has been shot! 565 00:26:28,626 --> 00:26:31,376 There's a man with a gun. Absolute panic. 566 00:26:31,918 --> 00:26:33,501 Absolute panic 567 00:26:35,085 --> 00:26:36,251 here in the basement of Dallas Police Headquarters. 568 00:26:36,085 --> 00:26:37,918 Detectives have their guns drawn. 569 00:26:38,085 --> 00:26:39,293 There is no question about it 570 00:26:39,376 --> 00:26:41,085 Oswald has been shot 571 00:26:41,168 --> 00:26:43,501 at point blank range, fired into his stomach. 572 00:26:44,835 --> 00:26:46,376 He is shot. 573 00:26:46,460 --> 00:26:48,085 -Oswald is shot. -It is Oswald. 574 00:26:49,126 --> 00:26:50,418 Was that the man 575 00:26:50,501 --> 00:26:51,793 who shot the man, or do you know? 576 00:26:51,876 --> 00:26:53,460 That is the man that shot the man. 577 00:26:54,293 --> 00:26:58,210 Immediately after the shooting our only witnesses 578 00:26:58,293 --> 00:27:00,126 that we could talk to were other reporters. 579 00:27:01,210 --> 00:27:02,960 Reporter: Where did he go, Pierre? 580 00:27:03,043 --> 00:27:05,168 Well, he was here, he just-- They just put the gun there, 581 00:27:05,251 --> 00:27:06,501 I saw the flash on the black sweater. 582 00:27:06,585 --> 00:27:07,501 Had the gun right in his belly? 583 00:27:07,585 --> 00:27:09,251 Oh yeah, right... 584 00:27:09,335 --> 00:27:11,168 -Oh, did you see the gun? -Point blank range? 585 00:27:11,251 --> 00:27:13,251 Pierre: I saw him there, he was in the group of men right here. 586 00:27:14,210 --> 00:27:16,085 Masquerading as one of us or what? 587 00:27:16,168 --> 00:27:17,835 I thought he was one of the detective, 588 00:27:17,918 --> 00:27:19,043 you know, he had a hat. 589 00:27:19,126 --> 00:27:20,293 The situation is now 590 00:27:20,376 --> 00:27:23,960 that Lee Harvey Oswald has been shot. 591 00:27:24,585 --> 00:27:26,960 The man who saw the shot fired, said it was 592 00:27:27,543 --> 00:27:30,918 fired by a man wearing a black hat, 593 00:27:31,001 --> 00:27:33,376 a brown coat, a man that everyone down here 594 00:27:33,460 --> 00:27:36,210 thought was a Secret Service agent. 595 00:27:37,710 --> 00:27:39,376 We can hear sirens outside, 596 00:27:39,460 --> 00:27:41,793 and an ambulance apparently is... 597 00:27:43,126 --> 00:27:44,626 ...moving down now, into the basement. 598 00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:46,293 Here comes the ambulance... 599 00:27:48,460 --> 00:27:51,751 ...and Oswald will be removed now. 600 00:27:53,418 --> 00:27:54,918 The ambulance is being pulled up 601 00:27:55,001 --> 00:27:56,585 in front of us here. 602 00:27:57,751 --> 00:27:59,668 Here comes Oswald, 603 00:27:59,751 --> 00:28:03,835 he is ashen and unconscious at this time, 604 00:28:03,918 --> 00:28:05,501 now being moved in. He's not moving. 605 00:28:06,210 --> 00:28:08,376 He's in the ambulance now, 606 00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:11,960 and attendants, police are quickly piling in. 607 00:28:13,918 --> 00:28:17,168 The ambulance is leaving Dallas Police Headquarters, 608 00:28:17,251 --> 00:28:19,085 Where will he be taken? 609 00:28:19,168 --> 00:28:20,460 I'm assuming Parkland Hospital. 610 00:28:20,543 --> 00:28:21,710 Parkland Hospital, 611 00:28:21,793 --> 00:28:23,668 the irony of ironies, the place 612 00:28:23,751 --> 00:28:25,418 where John F. Kennedy died. 613 00:28:33,210 --> 00:28:34,543 I believe the man-- 614 00:28:34,626 --> 00:28:35,793 No, don't take the microphone. 615 00:28:35,876 --> 00:28:37,460 Yeah keep your head up. Let's start again. 616 00:28:38,043 --> 00:28:40,668 What is your reaction to the shooting of Oswald? 617 00:28:40,751 --> 00:28:43,335 Well, I think it's a deplorable situation. 618 00:28:44,335 --> 00:28:46,710 The man is entitled to a fair trial. 619 00:28:46,793 --> 00:28:48,793 They should give him a fair trial 'cause 620 00:28:48,876 --> 00:28:50,376 killing him just like that ain't nothing 621 00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:52,335 'cause that ain't gonna bring President Kennedy back to life. 622 00:28:53,168 --> 00:28:54,918 And after you get a trial 623 00:28:55,001 --> 00:28:56,085 they should let him out on the street 624 00:28:56,168 --> 00:28:57,126 and let the people kill him. 625 00:28:57,210 --> 00:28:59,210 They should not only shoot him, 626 00:29:00,210 --> 00:29:02,043 but cut him up in pieces. 627 00:29:02,126 --> 00:29:05,418 Put him every one hour in the fire 628 00:29:05,501 --> 00:29:07,960 and stood him up for one day, 629 00:29:08,043 --> 00:29:09,543 and then the next day start again. 630 00:29:09,626 --> 00:29:11,210 Thank you. 631 00:29:14,460 --> 00:29:15,793 They got a man that I believe, 632 00:29:15,876 --> 00:29:17,293 I didn't see it, I think it's the man. 633 00:29:17,376 --> 00:29:19,210 What's that? You got him? What's he look like? 634 00:29:20,043 --> 00:29:21,293 Unidentified cop: I can't give you a description now. 635 00:29:21,376 --> 00:29:23,710 He is-- he is known locally. 636 00:29:23,793 --> 00:29:26,251 Immediately after the ambulance left, 637 00:29:26,085 --> 00:29:28,835 somehow I'd begun to suspect that maybe 638 00:29:28,918 --> 00:29:31,168 the shooter was someone 639 00:29:31,251 --> 00:29:33,085 who was known to the police. 640 00:29:33,168 --> 00:29:34,335 Do you know this subject? 641 00:29:34,418 --> 00:29:36,001 Do you know him? Have you seen him before? 642 00:29:36,085 --> 00:29:37,835 -Yes, I do. -Is he from Dallas? 643 00:29:37,918 --> 00:29:39,210 -Yes. -He is? 644 00:29:39,043 --> 00:29:40,668 I-- I couldn't tell you. 645 00:29:40,751 --> 00:29:42,085 Do you know what kind of business 646 00:29:42,168 --> 00:29:43,751 he happens to be in? 647 00:29:44,335 --> 00:29:45,585 Bob, I wouldn't want to say. 648 00:29:45,668 --> 00:29:47,460 Right. 649 00:29:47,543 --> 00:29:50,751 Dallas City Hall is normally a public building, 650 00:29:50,835 --> 00:29:54,085 but today it was really under armed guard. 651 00:29:55,835 --> 00:29:59,918 Jack. Jack Ruby. The Carousel. The Carousel, shot... 652 00:30:01,751 --> 00:30:04,460 We-- Is this a confirmed report 653 00:30:04,543 --> 00:30:06,043 as to who did the shooting? 654 00:30:06,126 --> 00:30:08,960 As far as I know. I just got it from Vic Robertson. 655 00:30:09,585 --> 00:30:11,668 Vic Robertson, from City Hall, reports that... 656 00:30:13,126 --> 00:30:16,710 ...Jack Ruby, the owner of The Carousel, 657 00:30:16,793 --> 00:30:20,210 which is a bar in Dallas, did the shooting. 658 00:30:23,210 --> 00:30:25,210 My statement will be very brief. 659 00:30:28,876 --> 00:30:34,043 Oswald expired at 1:07 PM. 660 00:30:34,126 --> 00:30:35,043 He died? 661 00:30:35,126 --> 00:30:38,543 He died at 1:07 PM. 662 00:30:40,126 --> 00:30:41,918 We have arrested the man, 663 00:30:42,001 --> 00:30:44,501 the man will be charged with murder. 664 00:30:44,585 --> 00:30:46,168 Who is he? 665 00:30:47,501 --> 00:30:50,168 The man-- The suspect's name is Jack Rubenstein, I believe... 666 00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:53,168 ...he goes by the name of Jack Ruby. 667 00:30:54,918 --> 00:30:57,168 And here in Associated Press 668 00:30:57,251 --> 00:31:01,001 a still picture of the moment, the split second, 669 00:31:01,085 --> 00:31:02,835 as the shot was fired. 670 00:31:02,918 --> 00:31:05,543 This is the man Dallas Police have identified as 671 00:31:05,626 --> 00:31:07,251 Jack Rubenstein, 672 00:31:07,085 --> 00:31:10,293 and this of course, is Lee Harvey Oswald. 673 00:31:10,376 --> 00:31:13,293 You see the gun in the hand of Ruby, 674 00:31:13,376 --> 00:31:16,168 and just about to be fired. 675 00:31:17,168 --> 00:31:18,501 I know my own feelings were, 676 00:31:18,585 --> 00:31:21,960 and I think they were widely shared by many, 677 00:31:22,043 --> 00:31:25,168 if not most Americans, this can't be coincidental. 678 00:31:26,001 --> 00:31:30,501 The assassin is assassinated in the police station. 679 00:31:30,585 --> 00:31:32,585 What in the hell is going on? 680 00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:34,376 Walker: Just learned from City Hall, 681 00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:36,293 from a very authoritative source, 682 00:31:36,376 --> 00:31:38,335 that police are working on the assumption 683 00:31:38,418 --> 00:31:41,210 that there indeed is a connection between 684 00:31:41,043 --> 00:31:44,335 Jack Ruby and Lee Oswald, 685 00:31:44,418 --> 00:31:46,710 and that in some manner of speaking 686 00:31:46,793 --> 00:31:49,210 Oswald's murder was to shut him up. 687 00:31:51,835 --> 00:31:54,168 Captain Will Fitz just told me 688 00:31:54,251 --> 00:31:56,251 that Ruby has said that he did it, 689 00:31:56,085 --> 00:31:57,918 that it was his gun, 690 00:31:58,501 --> 00:32:00,626 and that he had built up a tremendous grievance 691 00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:02,876 over the death of the President. 692 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,626 In Jack Ruby's small mind 693 00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:07,168 he thought he was gonna become a big, big hero. 694 00:32:07,251 --> 00:32:08,835 I mean, he killed the guy who killed the President. 695 00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:12,460 I commend what he did, I think he ought to win 696 00:32:12,543 --> 00:32:14,626 the Congressional Medal of Honor for it, 697 00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:17,168 and a lot of other good American citizens think 698 00:32:17,251 --> 00:32:19,335 he did exactly the right thing 699 00:32:19,418 --> 00:32:21,043 in shooting down this communist. 700 00:32:21,126 --> 00:32:24,251 Word also in, just now, from Dallas, 701 00:32:24,085 --> 00:32:27,251 that homicide chief, Captain Will Fritz 702 00:32:27,335 --> 00:32:29,043 has now said that the case of 703 00:32:29,126 --> 00:32:31,168 President Kennedy's assassination 704 00:32:31,251 --> 00:32:34,168 is now closed with the death of Oswald. 705 00:32:34,251 --> 00:32:36,168 It may not, however, be the opinion 706 00:32:36,251 --> 00:32:37,793 of the U.S. Secret Service, 707 00:32:37,876 --> 00:32:39,835 or the Federal Bureau of Investigation. 708 00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:03,793 Earl Warren: Our nation is bereaved. 709 00:33:05,085 --> 00:33:09,085 The whole world is poorer because of his loss. 710 00:33:10,126 --> 00:33:12,376 But we can all be better Americans 711 00:33:13,085 --> 00:33:15,835 because John Fitzgerald Kennedy 712 00:33:15,918 --> 00:33:17,918 has passed our way, 713 00:33:19,043 --> 00:33:21,168 because he has been our chosen leader 714 00:33:22,210 --> 00:33:25,918 at a time in history when his character, 715 00:33:26,626 --> 00:33:29,918 his vision, and his quiet courage 716 00:33:30,626 --> 00:33:33,376 have enabled him to chart a course for us... 717 00:33:35,210 --> 00:33:36,876 ...a safe course for us 718 00:33:37,501 --> 00:33:40,293 through the shoals of treacherous seas 719 00:33:40,376 --> 00:33:42,460 that encompass the world. 720 00:33:43,501 --> 00:33:46,210 And now that he is relieved 721 00:33:46,793 --> 00:33:49,043 of the almost super human burden 722 00:33:49,918 --> 00:33:54,085 we imposed on him, may he rest in peace. 723 00:34:07,168 --> 00:34:10,210 Dallas today had even more to mourn. 724 00:34:10,043 --> 00:34:13,085 It held funeral services for one of its own, 725 00:34:13,168 --> 00:34:15,168 who was a victim of Friday's tragedy, 726 00:34:15,251 --> 00:34:17,126 Officer J. D. Tippit. 727 00:34:22,543 --> 00:34:24,835 It was a funeral of a very different sort today, 728 00:34:24,918 --> 00:34:26,501 in nearby Fort Worth. 729 00:34:27,126 --> 00:34:28,585 This was the dreary funeral of 730 00:34:28,668 --> 00:34:31,293 Lee Harvey Oswald, alleged murderer 731 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,543 of President Kennedy. 732 00:34:34,293 --> 00:34:36,126 The pathetic group of mourners included: 733 00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:38,126 Oswald's mother, Marguerite; 734 00:34:39,293 --> 00:34:41,126 his wife, Marina; 735 00:34:41,251 --> 00:34:43,043 his brother, Robert; 736 00:34:43,126 --> 00:34:45,001 and Oswald's two children, 737 00:34:45,085 --> 00:34:47,543 one of them a babe in arms. 738 00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:51,668 The six pallbearers you see here are newsmen. 739 00:34:52,543 --> 00:34:54,793 There were not enough relatives 740 00:34:54,876 --> 00:34:57,960 or friends on hand to serve as pallbearers. 741 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:03,376 George Herman: Now there is a new flag 742 00:35:03,460 --> 00:35:04,960 of the President of the United States 743 00:35:05,043 --> 00:35:07,251 flying in the White House. 744 00:35:07,085 --> 00:35:09,668 In President Kennedy's old Oval Office, 745 00:35:09,751 --> 00:35:12,460 Mrs. Evelyn Lincoln, his secretary and her aides 746 00:35:12,543 --> 00:35:14,251 have removed every scrap, 747 00:35:14,335 --> 00:35:17,126 every vestige of the signs of the personal touches 748 00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:19,043 of President Kennedy. 749 00:35:20,293 --> 00:35:22,751 We know from history, 750 00:35:22,835 --> 00:35:27,460 is, how do they handle 751 00:35:27,543 --> 00:35:29,835 the transfer of power at the top? 752 00:35:30,751 --> 00:35:32,710 Lyndon Johnson, whatever you thought of him, 753 00:35:32,793 --> 00:35:35,126 and a lot of people disliked him greatly, 754 00:35:35,210 --> 00:35:36,460 some even hated him, 755 00:35:36,543 --> 00:35:38,960 would be the President of the United States. 756 00:35:39,043 --> 00:35:43,251 I think it shouted about the strength of the country, 757 00:35:43,751 --> 00:35:45,418 and that we swear by the rule of law. 758 00:35:48,335 --> 00:35:51,168 The President of the United States. 759 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:08,293 My fellow Americans... 760 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:12,918 ...all I have... 761 00:36:14,210 --> 00:36:15,918 ...I would have given gladly... 762 00:36:18,126 --> 00:36:20,210 ...not to be standing here today. 763 00:36:21,168 --> 00:36:23,210 Johnson knows 764 00:36:23,043 --> 00:36:25,043 he has to show the country 765 00:36:25,126 --> 00:36:28,543 that the ship of state is sailing on under a new captain. 766 00:36:28,626 --> 00:36:30,085 But, at the same time, 767 00:36:30,168 --> 00:36:34,626 he can't appear to be too anxious to assume power, 768 00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:36,918 and he has to keep the Kennedy people 769 00:36:37,001 --> 00:36:38,293 on board with him. 770 00:36:38,376 --> 00:36:40,585 So that speech means everything. 771 00:36:41,043 --> 00:36:43,335 No words are strong enough... 772 00:36:45,501 --> 00:36:48,251 ...to express our determination... 773 00:36:49,918 --> 00:36:55,210 ...to continue the forward thrust of America that he began. 774 00:37:05,626 --> 00:37:07,085 John Chancellor: The people of Europe 775 00:37:07,168 --> 00:37:09,043 just cannot believe that a lone avenger 776 00:37:09,126 --> 00:37:11,876 made his way into a major police station 777 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,460 and killed, without difficulty, 778 00:37:13,543 --> 00:37:15,585 the most celebrated and infamous criminal 779 00:37:15,668 --> 00:37:17,001 in the United States. 780 00:37:17,085 --> 00:37:18,501 One of the most important things 781 00:37:18,585 --> 00:37:21,251 that happened after Oswald's murder... 782 00:37:22,668 --> 00:37:25,793 ...was that we, you know, were forever denied the "why?" 783 00:37:26,251 --> 00:37:28,751 And the people at the time believed he did it. 784 00:37:30,085 --> 00:37:31,501 The question was why. 785 00:37:31,585 --> 00:37:34,876 There are questions continually coming up 786 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,251 about the possibility of an international plot. 787 00:37:37,335 --> 00:37:40,126 There's still all this thought 788 00:37:40,210 --> 00:37:42,043 that the Russians might be behind it, 789 00:37:42,126 --> 00:37:44,126 or Cuba might be behind it. 790 00:37:44,210 --> 00:37:47,001 Johnson sees there's a real danger in that. 791 00:37:47,085 --> 00:37:49,376 You want to put these rumors to rest. 792 00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:52,751 Investigations into all the facts 793 00:37:52,835 --> 00:37:55,210 of these last four days may not be limited 794 00:37:55,293 --> 00:37:57,168 to the state of Texas or the FBI. 795 00:37:57,835 --> 00:37:59,710 Some Congressman already have suggested 796 00:37:59,793 --> 00:38:01,376 a congressional investigation. 797 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,210 Holland: Killing a president wasn't 798 00:38:04,293 --> 00:38:05,460 a federal crime at the time. 799 00:38:05,543 --> 00:38:08,168 So you had the federal government 800 00:38:08,251 --> 00:38:11,085 intervening in still what was a local murder. 801 00:38:11,543 --> 00:38:13,043 There certainly was a concern 802 00:38:13,126 --> 00:38:15,543 of competing investigations. 803 00:38:15,626 --> 00:38:17,210 There was the Dallas criminal investigation, 804 00:38:17,876 --> 00:38:20,418 there was the State of Texas court of inquiry, 805 00:38:20,501 --> 00:38:22,960 and there were committees on both sides of Congress, 806 00:38:23,043 --> 00:38:26,001 while, of course, the FBI had been given the job to 807 00:38:26,085 --> 00:38:27,668 conduct a full scale investigation. 808 00:38:29,168 --> 00:38:31,835 Johnson realizes something has to be done. 809 00:38:33,085 --> 00:38:36,168 He realizes that he has to appoint a body, 810 00:38:36,251 --> 00:38:39,210 that the public will respect, to look into this. 811 00:38:41,376 --> 00:38:42,751 I've got to have a 812 00:38:42,835 --> 00:38:45,460 top, blue ribbon Presidential Commission 813 00:38:45,543 --> 00:38:47,251 to investigate the assassination. 814 00:38:47,335 --> 00:38:48,585 Now, I want to ask McCloy and Dulles, 815 00:38:48,668 --> 00:38:50,585 and Ford, and Boggs, and Cooper, and Russell, 816 00:38:50,668 --> 00:38:53,085 and Chief Justice Warren as chairman. 817 00:38:53,168 --> 00:38:55,043 Caro: If there's one public governmental official 818 00:38:55,126 --> 00:38:57,168 in the United States universally respected 819 00:38:57,251 --> 00:38:59,043 for his integrity, 820 00:38:59,126 --> 00:39:00,960 it is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, 821 00:39:01,043 --> 00:39:02,126 Earl Warren. 822 00:39:02,210 --> 00:39:04,251 If there's one person in Congress 823 00:39:04,085 --> 00:39:05,960 that every one respects 824 00:39:06,043 --> 00:39:07,626 it's Richard Russell of Georgia. 825 00:39:08,210 --> 00:39:10,335 He has to get them both on the Commission. 826 00:39:10,418 --> 00:39:12,501 There is, however, a problem. 827 00:39:12,585 --> 00:39:16,251 Russell is a segregationist through and through, 828 00:39:16,085 --> 00:39:19,001 and despises Warren for the decisions 829 00:39:19,085 --> 00:39:20,501 that he's made on the Court. 830 00:39:20,585 --> 00:39:23,918 Johnson thought if they can agree on a verdict 831 00:39:24,001 --> 00:39:26,626 then that'll be satisfying 90 percent of 832 00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:28,293 American public opinion. 833 00:39:29,251 --> 00:39:31,168 Unidentified female: Senator Russell on 2191. 834 00:39:31,251 --> 00:39:32,793 I'm highly honored you would think 835 00:39:32,876 --> 00:39:35,126 about me in connection with it, 836 00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:37,626 but I couldn't serve there with Chief Justice Warren. 837 00:39:37,710 --> 00:39:39,376 I don't like that man. 838 00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:41,085 President Johnson: You can serve with anybody 839 00:39:41,168 --> 00:39:43,335 for the good of America, and you're gonna do it. 840 00:39:43,418 --> 00:39:45,085 I can't arrest you, 841 00:39:45,168 --> 00:39:47,376 and I'm not gonna put the FBI on you, 842 00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:49,210 but you goddamn sure are gonna serve, 843 00:39:49,293 --> 00:39:50,543 I'll tell you that. 844 00:39:50,626 --> 00:39:52,210 Robert Caro: Lyndon Johnson was known 845 00:39:52,293 --> 00:39:56,043 as the greatest salesman one-on-one who ever lived. 846 00:39:57,168 --> 00:40:00,543 So, he meets first with Warren, and he says, 847 00:40:00,626 --> 00:40:02,668 "If I asked you to put on your uniform, 848 00:40:02,751 --> 00:40:04,585 and fight for America you'd do it. 849 00:40:04,668 --> 00:40:06,835 I'm asking you to fight for America 850 00:40:06,918 --> 00:40:08,085 in a different way." 851 00:40:08,168 --> 00:40:10,001 Then Johnson has to get Richard Russell. 852 00:40:10,085 --> 00:40:11,418 Richard Russell: Mr. President, please now-- 853 00:40:11,501 --> 00:40:12,668 President Johnson: No, it's already done. 854 00:40:12,751 --> 00:40:14,168 It's been announced, hell. 855 00:40:14,251 --> 00:40:15,626 Russell: You mean you've given-- 856 00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:17,043 Yes, sir, I've made the announcement, 857 00:40:17,126 --> 00:40:19,251 it's already in the papers, and you're on it. 858 00:40:19,085 --> 00:40:21,418 Well, I think you did wrong getting Warren, 859 00:40:21,501 --> 00:40:23,126 I know damn well you got it wrong getting me. 860 00:40:23,210 --> 00:40:24,126 But I'll do the best I can. 861 00:40:24,210 --> 00:40:25,293 President Johnson: I think that's what you do. 862 00:40:25,376 --> 00:40:27,210 That's the kind of American of both of you are. 863 00:40:37,543 --> 00:40:39,085 Announcer: Produced by NBC News, 864 00:40:39,168 --> 00:40:40,751 which is solely responsible for its content. 865 00:40:41,376 --> 00:40:44,376 The Warren Commission, appointed Friday night, will investigate 866 00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:46,043 and make a report on the murder. 867 00:40:46,126 --> 00:40:47,960 As yet, it has said nothing about 868 00:40:48,043 --> 00:40:50,460 how it will proceed, or when. 869 00:40:50,543 --> 00:40:52,168 In the meantime, again, 870 00:40:52,251 --> 00:40:55,126 the FBI is investigating every lead it can find, 871 00:40:55,210 --> 00:40:57,168 and will turn its report over to President Johnson 872 00:40:57,251 --> 00:40:59,085 probably this week. 873 00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:01,043 Willens: It was the FBI's hope 874 00:41:01,126 --> 00:41:03,585 that its report would be, 875 00:41:03,668 --> 00:41:06,210 if not the final word the semi-final word, 876 00:41:06,293 --> 00:41:08,210 and that the Commission's job would be to read it, 877 00:41:08,293 --> 00:41:11,043 and then essentially endorse the findings of the report. 878 00:41:11,126 --> 00:41:12,085 Edward Jay Epstein: The members of the 879 00:41:12,168 --> 00:41:13,751 Warren Commission, 880 00:41:13,835 --> 00:41:16,918 Earl Warren, John Sherman Cooper, 881 00:41:17,001 --> 00:41:20,460 Gerry Ford, Allen Dulles, 882 00:41:20,543 --> 00:41:23,585 Hale Boggs, Richard Russell, 883 00:41:23,668 --> 00:41:27,335 and John J. McCloy realized at their initial meeting 884 00:41:27,418 --> 00:41:31,126 that they had to do an independent investigation. 885 00:41:31,210 --> 00:41:33,126 They didn't want to be a stamp for the 886 00:41:33,210 --> 00:41:35,043 FBI, or the Secret Service. 887 00:41:36,210 --> 00:41:37,293 Holland: There are three issues 888 00:41:37,376 --> 00:41:39,126 the Commission had to grapple with. 889 00:41:39,210 --> 00:41:40,418 You know, did Oswald commit 890 00:41:40,501 --> 00:41:42,085 the physical act of the murder? 891 00:41:42,835 --> 00:41:45,210 And even if he did the physical act, 892 00:41:45,043 --> 00:41:48,210 did he have forces behind him? 893 00:41:48,043 --> 00:41:51,335 And then, of course, what's Ruby's involvement in this? 894 00:41:56,335 --> 00:41:59,210 You had various branches of the investigation traveling, 895 00:41:59,293 --> 00:42:01,960 interviewing witnesses, collecting evidence, 896 00:42:02,043 --> 00:42:03,668 bringing it back to the Commission. 897 00:42:03,751 --> 00:42:06,668 Let's see, the time of day was about-- 898 00:42:06,751 --> 00:42:09,251 well we're not very far, two hours from it. 899 00:42:10,251 --> 00:42:11,376 Epstein: There were questions, 900 00:42:11,460 --> 00:42:14,001 how would they deal with the different stories 901 00:42:14,085 --> 00:42:16,168 about shooters from the grassy knoll, 902 00:42:16,043 --> 00:42:18,251 and shooters from different directions? 903 00:42:18,085 --> 00:42:19,960 The lawyers from the Commission 904 00:42:20,043 --> 00:42:24,043 took 395 depositions and there were 94 witnesses 905 00:42:24,126 --> 00:42:26,293 that appeared before the Commission. 906 00:42:27,001 --> 00:42:31,210 Lyndon Johnson wants the report out 907 00:42:31,043 --> 00:42:34,501 so it doesn't interfere with the election in November. 908 00:42:34,585 --> 00:42:36,043 Jim Newton: Warren left for Dallas 909 00:42:36,126 --> 00:42:37,293 because he was a man who had spent 910 00:42:37,376 --> 00:42:39,626 his early career as a courtroom prosecutor, 911 00:42:39,710 --> 00:42:41,210 he understood a crime scene, 912 00:42:41,043 --> 00:42:42,460 he wanted to stand in that window, 913 00:42:42,543 --> 00:42:44,210 and see whether this was a shot 914 00:42:44,293 --> 00:42:46,126 that a marksman could make. 915 00:42:47,501 --> 00:42:49,210 While he was there Warren felt he should talk to Ruby. 916 00:42:49,043 --> 00:42:50,626 There were all these suggestions 917 00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:52,335 that Ruby had killed Oswald to silence him. 918 00:42:52,418 --> 00:42:53,501 So, Warren, I think wanted to hear it 919 00:42:53,585 --> 00:42:55,293 from Ruby himself. 920 00:42:55,376 --> 00:42:57,418 The Warren Commission realized 921 00:42:57,501 --> 00:42:59,085 they were gonna have to invest 922 00:42:59,168 --> 00:43:02,043 a lot more time than was anticipated. 923 00:43:02,126 --> 00:43:04,668 So, maybe two to three month operation 924 00:43:04,751 --> 00:43:06,001 to the conception that 925 00:43:06,085 --> 00:43:07,751 it would probably take six months. 926 00:43:08,251 --> 00:43:11,168 The hourglass of time was running out on them. 927 00:43:11,251 --> 00:43:13,376 Can you say if you still think it was one man? 928 00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:17,085 I think we better not get into that area, you know? 929 00:43:18,418 --> 00:43:20,710 The report will cover all of that in great detail. 930 00:43:23,168 --> 00:43:25,126 This committee labored ten months, 931 00:43:25,210 --> 00:43:28,960 then brought forth a document close to a thousand pages. 932 00:43:29,043 --> 00:43:32,210 President Johnson received that report today. 933 00:43:32,043 --> 00:43:34,210 Epstein: What the public understood 934 00:43:34,043 --> 00:43:36,126 and what I understood, 935 00:43:36,210 --> 00:43:38,793 is: these were very honorable men. 936 00:43:38,876 --> 00:43:42,085 They thought that the Commission had done a good job, 937 00:43:42,168 --> 00:43:44,168 and they would come up with an answer. 938 00:43:47,043 --> 00:43:48,501 When the Warren Commission Report 939 00:43:48,585 --> 00:43:54,001 came out, I believed it. We were still in a time when... 940 00:43:55,210 --> 00:43:58,918 ...you tended to believe what officials told you. 941 00:44:00,085 --> 00:44:03,876 It is now 15 seconds after 6:30 PM, 942 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,043 Eastern Daylight Time, Sunday, September 27th. 943 00:44:07,793 --> 00:44:09,210 As of this moment, 944 00:44:09,293 --> 00:44:11,335 the report of the President's Commission 945 00:44:11,418 --> 00:44:13,626 is public record. 946 00:44:13,710 --> 00:44:16,210 For the next half hour, we will search it for answers. 947 00:44:16,293 --> 00:44:18,043 First must come the answers 948 00:44:18,126 --> 00:44:20,876 to the two great overriding questions. 949 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,210 Who killed John F. Kennedy? 950 00:44:23,043 --> 00:44:25,543 The Commission answers unequivocally 951 00:44:25,626 --> 00:44:27,626 Lee Harvey Oswald. 952 00:44:27,710 --> 00:44:29,126 Was Oswald acting alone 953 00:44:29,210 --> 00:44:31,085 or was he a member of a conspiracy? 954 00:44:31,918 --> 00:44:34,543 The Commission answers, he acted alone. 955 00:44:35,126 --> 00:44:37,418 We knew most people were not going to read 956 00:44:37,501 --> 00:44:39,210 all of the Warren Commission Report, 957 00:44:39,293 --> 00:44:42,418 so CBS News wanted to be able to bring to air 958 00:44:42,501 --> 00:44:45,168 in understandable form for the public at large, 959 00:44:45,251 --> 00:44:47,168 what the Warren Commission itself has found. 960 00:44:47,251 --> 00:44:49,168 There was nothing to support the speculation 961 00:44:49,251 --> 00:44:51,876 that Oswald was an agent, employee 962 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,043 or informant of the FBI, or the CIA, 963 00:44:55,126 --> 00:44:57,001 or any other governmental agency. 964 00:44:57,085 --> 00:44:59,210 Oswald owned the murder rifle. 965 00:44:59,293 --> 00:45:01,168 The mail order purchase slip for that rifle 966 00:45:01,251 --> 00:45:02,460 was in his handwriting. 967 00:45:02,543 --> 00:45:04,501 Oswald's palm print was found 968 00:45:04,585 --> 00:45:06,210 on a surface of the gun. 969 00:45:06,293 --> 00:45:08,626 The media had all concluded that 970 00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:12,085 this was the most exhaustive investigation. 971 00:45:12,168 --> 00:45:15,376 Case closed. Oswald did it alone. 972 00:45:15,460 --> 00:45:19,085 The Commission concludes that three shots were fired, 973 00:45:19,168 --> 00:45:21,251 all of them from the sixth floor window 974 00:45:21,876 --> 00:45:24,043 in the Texas School Book Depository. 975 00:45:24,126 --> 00:45:26,376 Cronkite: The cumulative evidence of eyewitness, 976 00:45:26,460 --> 00:45:30,001 firearms and ballistic experts, and medical authorities 977 00:45:30,085 --> 00:45:32,043 demonstrated that the shots were fired 978 00:45:32,126 --> 00:45:34,251 from above and behind President Kennedy 979 00:45:34,085 --> 00:45:35,210 and Governor Connally. 980 00:45:35,043 --> 00:45:36,251 Bugliosi: When the Warren Commission 981 00:45:36,335 --> 00:45:39,126 came out with their report, the majority of Americans... 982 00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:43,043 ...accepted the findings of the Warren Commission. 983 00:45:43,126 --> 00:45:44,835 Cronkite: The bullet entered here, 984 00:45:44,918 --> 00:45:48,043 came out just below the President's Adam's apple. 985 00:45:48,126 --> 00:45:49,710 The Commission believes that the same bullet 986 00:45:50,293 --> 00:45:54,168 then entered the right shoulder of Governor Connally, 987 00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:56,043 passed on through his chest, 988 00:45:56,126 --> 00:45:57,751 continued through his right wrist 989 00:45:57,835 --> 00:45:59,418 and on into his left thigh. 990 00:45:59,501 --> 00:46:00,835 Governor John Connally: The report has been 991 00:46:00,918 --> 00:46:04,126 generally accepted throughout the country. 992 00:46:04,210 --> 00:46:06,210 I think it reflects the thoroughness 993 00:46:06,293 --> 00:46:08,085 with which they went into it, 994 00:46:08,168 --> 00:46:11,001 and I think, at least, it has dispelled many of the rumors 995 00:46:11,085 --> 00:46:12,668 and the speculations that surrounded this, 996 00:46:12,751 --> 00:46:14,168 this very tragic event. 997 00:46:14,251 --> 00:46:17,126 I'm quite satisfied that 998 00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:20,126 it has been very well covered entirely. 999 00:46:20,210 --> 00:46:22,585 It leaves no doubt in my mind 1000 00:46:22,668 --> 00:46:24,501 that Lee actually did 1001 00:46:24,585 --> 00:46:26,751 assassinate the President of the United States 1002 00:46:26,835 --> 00:46:28,251 and kill Officer Tippit. 1003 00:46:28,335 --> 00:46:29,876 Cronkite: In the end, we find 1004 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,251 confronting each other the liar, the misfit, 1005 00:46:32,335 --> 00:46:34,085 the defector, on the one hand, 1006 00:46:34,168 --> 00:46:36,085 and seven distinguished Americans on the other. 1007 00:46:36,168 --> 00:46:37,918 And yet, exactly here 1008 00:46:38,001 --> 00:46:41,001 we must be careful that we do not say too much. 1009 00:46:41,085 --> 00:46:43,168 Oswald was never tried for any crime, 1010 00:46:43,043 --> 00:46:44,543 and perhaps therefore 1011 00:46:44,626 --> 00:46:46,210 there will forever be questions 1012 00:46:46,043 --> 00:46:47,835 of substance and detail 1013 00:46:47,918 --> 00:46:50,001 raised by amateur detectives, 1014 00:46:50,085 --> 00:46:53,210 professional skeptics, and serious students as well. 1015 00:46:53,043 --> 00:46:54,918 We are the jury, all of us. 1016 00:46:55,376 --> 00:46:57,251 In America and throughout the world. 1017 00:46:59,210 --> 00:47:00,210 Willens: The reaction to the report 1018 00:47:00,293 --> 00:47:02,168 initially was very positive, 1019 00:47:02,251 --> 00:47:04,043 but that didn't last very long. 1020 00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:06,043 This book is the number one bestseller 1021 00:47:06,126 --> 00:47:07,543 on the non-fiction list in the country, 1022 00:47:07,626 --> 00:47:09,126 Rush to Judgment by Mark Lane. 1023 00:47:09,210 --> 00:47:11,418 It's gained a vast number of readers, in the recent 1024 00:47:11,501 --> 00:47:13,043 groundswell of skepticism 1025 00:47:13,126 --> 00:47:15,543 about the findings of the Warren Report. 1026 00:47:15,626 --> 00:47:18,710 We did not envision the breadth 1027 00:47:18,793 --> 00:47:20,043 and the scope of the criticism. 1028 00:47:20,126 --> 00:47:22,043 The author has some highly provocative 1029 00:47:22,126 --> 00:47:24,376 and controversial things to say. 1030 00:47:24,460 --> 00:47:26,043 So, please greet Mr. Mark Lane. 1031 00:47:29,835 --> 00:47:32,251 No matter how illustrious the members were, 1032 00:47:32,085 --> 00:47:35,335 we were not going to be reassured by a Commission. 1033 00:47:36,251 --> 00:47:38,043 We're already having a little disagreement here 1034 00:47:38,126 --> 00:47:39,960 while the commercials were on. 1035 00:47:40,043 --> 00:47:41,418 What were you saying, David? 1036 00:47:41,501 --> 00:47:44,793 Well, I think I disagree almost totally with Mark Lane, 1037 00:47:44,876 --> 00:47:46,668 on several counts. I don't know where to begin. 1038 00:47:46,751 --> 00:47:49,251 Let me show you something, just in case we have a chance. 1039 00:47:49,085 --> 00:47:50,585 That is a picture of Jack Ruby. 1040 00:47:50,668 --> 00:47:52,460 And this was taken five minutes 1041 00:47:52,543 --> 00:47:54,043 after the assassination in front of the 1042 00:47:54,126 --> 00:47:56,293 Texas Schoolbook Depository Building. 1043 00:47:56,376 --> 00:47:58,876 The Commission said Ruby was not there. 1044 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,793 This is picture showing how the Commission published it. 1045 00:48:00,876 --> 00:48:01,960 He wasn't there when they 1046 00:48:02,043 --> 00:48:03,251 published the picture because they cropped him out. 1047 00:48:03,335 --> 00:48:06,668 You're accusing Chief Justice Warren and that Commission-- 1048 00:48:06,751 --> 00:48:08,293 Tell me something about some facts 1049 00:48:08,376 --> 00:48:09,835 instead of your deep faith in the Chief Justice! 1050 00:48:09,918 --> 00:48:12,085 You're accusing them of deliberate malfeasance. 1051 00:48:12,168 --> 00:48:13,501 You are part of the media 1052 00:48:13,585 --> 00:48:15,668 which prevented the American people from finding out 1053 00:48:15,751 --> 00:48:17,085 -what happened until now. -You are alarming 1054 00:48:17,168 --> 00:48:18,501 the American people. 1055 00:48:18,585 --> 00:48:20,251 I say the American people should be alarmed. 1056 00:48:20,335 --> 00:48:22,001 The public had been kept 1057 00:48:22,085 --> 00:48:24,126 in the dark for so long about this, 1058 00:48:24,210 --> 00:48:26,043 but had an undying thirst... 1059 00:48:27,210 --> 00:48:29,293 ...which could only be quenched by getting facts. 1060 00:48:29,376 --> 00:48:31,210 We have a right to know who killed 1061 00:48:31,293 --> 00:48:33,210 our President and why he died! 1062 00:48:33,043 --> 00:48:35,210 And we can't get that from reading the Warren Report. 1063 00:48:35,876 --> 00:48:37,376 The critics of the Warren Commission 1064 00:48:37,460 --> 00:48:39,293 have three different points of view. 1065 00:48:39,376 --> 00:48:41,543 One, where we were simply incompetent. 1066 00:48:41,626 --> 00:48:43,210 Two, we were thoroughly corrupt. 1067 00:48:44,460 --> 00:48:45,626 And then there's those that say, "Both of the above". 1068 00:48:45,710 --> 00:48:47,835 I want someone to tell me that to my face. 1069 00:48:57,460 --> 00:48:59,043 At the start, Lane was almost alone. 1070 00:48:59,793 --> 00:49:01,043 Now he's just one 1071 00:49:01,126 --> 00:49:03,710 among a growing band of doubters. 1072 00:49:03,793 --> 00:49:05,335 Their books and articles are on the news stands, 1073 00:49:05,418 --> 00:49:07,210 they're in the supermarkets. 1074 00:49:07,043 --> 00:49:09,043 Now, according to a recent poll, 1075 00:49:09,126 --> 00:49:11,376 only one in three Americans 1076 00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:13,751 remains convinced that the Warren Report 1077 00:49:13,835 --> 00:49:15,335 has the whole story. 1078 00:49:15,418 --> 00:49:17,710 When you have a great number of people 1079 00:49:17,793 --> 00:49:21,085 devoting their lives to looking at every word, every comma... 1080 00:49:23,251 --> 00:49:24,835 ...they can create a lot of mischief. 1081 00:49:25,710 --> 00:49:28,251 I believe, very firmly, that 1082 00:49:28,335 --> 00:49:31,335 Ruby and Oswald knew each other, and certainly 1083 00:49:31,418 --> 00:49:33,418 Tippit and Ruby knew each other. 1084 00:49:34,126 --> 00:49:35,626 Before we proceed with that 1085 00:49:35,710 --> 00:49:38,251 kind of questioning, let me ask you, 1086 00:49:38,335 --> 00:49:41,668 what kind of conspiracy do you think? 1087 00:49:41,751 --> 00:49:45,335 Was it communist, left wing or right wing conspiracy? 1088 00:49:45,418 --> 00:49:48,918 I am convinced that there were two riflemen. 1089 00:49:49,001 --> 00:49:50,501 The Warren Commission was set up, 1090 00:49:50,585 --> 00:49:52,751 as you know, at the request 1091 00:49:52,835 --> 00:49:55,168 and urging of the Communist Party. 1092 00:49:55,251 --> 00:49:57,460 It is obvious that he was working for 1093 00:49:57,543 --> 00:49:59,043 somebody else at that moment, 1094 00:49:59,126 --> 00:50:01,335 and that somebody else could not be anyone else 1095 00:50:01,418 --> 00:50:02,626 than Fidel Castro. 1096 00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:04,126 There's no possibility of 1097 00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:06,085 Oswald having been in the sixth floor window 1098 00:50:06,168 --> 00:50:07,793 of the Texas School Book Depository. 1099 00:50:07,876 --> 00:50:09,668 It might have been the servant 1100 00:50:09,751 --> 00:50:14,460 of the Castro-Mao Tse Tung communist school of violence. 1101 00:50:15,168 --> 00:50:18,668 There was an entire world of assassination buffs. 1102 00:50:18,751 --> 00:50:21,668 Some raised valid questions. 1103 00:50:21,751 --> 00:50:23,793 Could a bullet, which had done as much, 1104 00:50:23,876 --> 00:50:27,126 have come out looking like bullet 399? 1105 00:50:27,210 --> 00:50:31,293 It is another one of the very many, highly improbables 1106 00:50:31,376 --> 00:50:33,960 that we are asked to accept by the Warren Commission 1107 00:50:34,043 --> 00:50:36,085 if we are to accept the validity 1108 00:50:36,168 --> 00:50:37,585 of their full report. 1109 00:50:37,668 --> 00:50:41,001 Some had completely mad theories. 1110 00:50:41,085 --> 00:50:43,543 Cody was killed by a karate chop to the throat 1111 00:50:43,626 --> 00:50:46,126 in September, I believe, of 1964. 1112 00:50:46,210 --> 00:50:47,543 But everyone, I believed, 1113 00:50:47,626 --> 00:50:50,585 had a right to give their views. 1114 00:50:50,668 --> 00:50:53,126 You have, apparently, succeeded in persuading 1115 00:50:53,210 --> 00:50:55,251 the majority of the American people 1116 00:50:55,085 --> 00:50:56,710 that we cannot trust the most 1117 00:50:56,793 --> 00:51:01,085 august conceivable panel to do a responsible job. 1118 00:51:01,168 --> 00:51:02,960 You talk about faith in these institutions 1119 00:51:03,043 --> 00:51:04,418 or faith in the FBI 1120 00:51:04,501 --> 00:51:06,085 as if it's a religious experience 1121 00:51:06,168 --> 00:51:07,418 to read the Warren Report. 1122 00:51:07,501 --> 00:51:09,043 I think, on the contrary, that all we're 1123 00:51:09,126 --> 00:51:11,251 supposed to have faith in a democracy 1124 00:51:11,335 --> 00:51:13,876 is in our own ability to look at the facts 1125 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,543 and reach our own conclusions. 1126 00:51:16,543 --> 00:51:18,168 The decreasing trust 1127 00:51:18,251 --> 00:51:20,168 by Americans in their government 1128 00:51:20,251 --> 00:51:23,126 all started with the Kennedy Assassination. 1129 00:51:23,210 --> 00:51:25,918 By 1966, there's this 1130 00:51:26,001 --> 00:51:28,043 cultural revolution in the United States. 1131 00:51:28,126 --> 00:51:30,835 I mean, we're deeply enmeshed in Vietnam. 1132 00:51:30,918 --> 00:51:33,251 There's a lot of protests, there have been riots, 1133 00:51:33,085 --> 00:51:35,251 and there's a sense that 1134 00:51:35,085 --> 00:51:37,168 things have seriously gone wrong. 1135 00:51:37,543 --> 00:51:41,168 We've gone off the rails since November '63. 1136 00:51:41,251 --> 00:51:44,210 And the Warren Report is a very important part 1137 00:51:44,293 --> 00:51:47,043 of that loss of confidence in the government. 1138 00:51:47,126 --> 00:51:48,418 Unidentified male: I don't think that all 1139 00:51:48,501 --> 00:51:50,210 the facts were brought out. 1140 00:51:50,293 --> 00:51:52,126 I think something was held back. 1141 00:51:52,210 --> 00:51:53,210 I think there were more 1142 00:51:53,293 --> 00:51:56,876 involved in it than just Oswald. 1143 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,168 I don't know how 1144 00:51:58,251 --> 00:51:59,501 in the world they could ever reach a conclusion that 1145 00:51:59,585 --> 00:52:01,793 one person assassinated him. That's ridiculous. 1146 00:52:01,876 --> 00:52:03,335 I saw the whole thing on television, 1147 00:52:03,418 --> 00:52:05,168 I just happened to be home at that time, 1148 00:52:05,251 --> 00:52:07,626 and I don't think that Oswald, 1149 00:52:07,710 --> 00:52:11,710 I think that he was working for the CIA, myself. 1150 00:52:12,168 --> 00:52:15,585 Why doesn't America believe the Warren Report? 1151 00:52:15,668 --> 00:52:18,835 Because of the conspiracy theorists 1152 00:52:18,918 --> 00:52:22,085 who have put this case under a high powered microscope, 1153 00:52:22,168 --> 00:52:23,793 splitting hairs and then proceeding to 1154 00:52:23,876 --> 00:52:25,418 split the split hairs. 1155 00:52:25,501 --> 00:52:29,043 The Kennedy case is now the most complex murder case, 1156 00:52:29,126 --> 00:52:31,293 by far, in world history. 1157 00:52:31,376 --> 00:52:34,043 Nothing even remotely comes close. 1158 00:52:34,126 --> 00:52:35,751 We are left with a series of 1159 00:52:35,835 --> 00:52:38,460 real and critical questions about the assassination. 1160 00:52:38,543 --> 00:52:40,210 Questions which have not been answered 1161 00:52:40,293 --> 00:52:42,376 to the satisfaction of the people of the United States. 1162 00:52:43,001 --> 00:52:45,126 David Crosby: When President Kennedy was killed, 1163 00:52:45,210 --> 00:52:47,043 he was not killed by one man. 1164 00:52:48,293 --> 00:52:50,126 He was shot from a number of different directions 1165 00:52:50,210 --> 00:52:51,835 by different guns. 1166 00:52:52,168 --> 00:52:53,751 The story has been suppressed, 1167 00:52:54,251 --> 00:52:55,835 witnesses have been killed, 1168 00:52:56,043 --> 00:52:57,876 and this is your country. 1169 00:52:59,001 --> 00:53:01,043 Specter: We aren't trying to hide a thing from you, 1170 00:53:01,126 --> 00:53:03,835 or from Mr Epstein and Mr Lane, or the world. 1171 00:53:03,918 --> 00:53:05,501 We are laying it all out. 1172 00:53:05,585 --> 00:53:08,210 It's right here in the notes of testimony. 1173 00:53:08,043 --> 00:53:11,793 And if we have transposed in error a "possibly" 1174 00:53:11,876 --> 00:53:13,668 into a "probably," 1175 00:53:13,751 --> 00:53:16,085 then we are delighted to have you point it out to us, 1176 00:53:16,168 --> 00:53:18,168 but you can do so only because we've laid it on the line. 1177 00:53:21,501 --> 00:53:23,501 Anchor: The Warren Report said, 1178 00:53:23,585 --> 00:53:26,626 that Lee Harvey Oswald shot the President 1179 00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:29,793 from his window in the Texas School Book Depository. 1180 00:53:29,876 --> 00:53:31,793 Three years after Kennedy's assassination, 1181 00:53:31,876 --> 00:53:34,085 the major question is still a simple one. 1182 00:53:34,168 --> 00:53:35,543 Did the Warren Commission, 1183 00:53:35,626 --> 00:53:38,085 with all that time and all these resources, 1184 00:53:38,585 --> 00:53:40,168 get its answers right? 1185 00:53:40,876 --> 00:53:42,626 Tonight we'll go over those arguments 1186 00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:44,626 one by one, area by area. 1187 00:53:45,626 --> 00:53:48,085 As the assassination was taking place, 1188 00:53:48,168 --> 00:53:51,126 a Dallas businessman called Abraham Zapruder 1189 00:53:51,210 --> 00:53:54,210 stood behind that low concrete wall 1190 00:53:54,043 --> 00:53:56,460 looking down at Elm Street. 1191 00:53:57,835 --> 00:53:59,793 As the President was coming down from 1192 00:53:59,876 --> 00:54:01,460 Houston Street, making its turn, 1193 00:54:01,543 --> 00:54:03,293 it was about halfway down there, 1194 00:54:03,376 --> 00:54:05,168 I heard a shot, 1195 00:54:05,251 --> 00:54:06,710 then I heard another shot or two, 1196 00:54:06,793 --> 00:54:08,710 I couldn't tell you if it was one or two. 1197 00:54:08,793 --> 00:54:11,126 And then I saw his head practically open up, 1198 00:54:11,210 --> 00:54:13,876 all blood and everything, and I kept on shooting. 1199 00:54:14,668 --> 00:54:17,001 The Warren Commission could use the film 1200 00:54:17,085 --> 00:54:19,293 and each frame to reconstruct 1201 00:54:19,376 --> 00:54:21,210 each moment of the assassination. 1202 00:54:21,793 --> 00:54:23,210 Part of the reason why, I think, 1203 00:54:23,043 --> 00:54:25,168 the film captured the American imagination 1204 00:54:25,251 --> 00:54:28,085 is because it pushes us to think about 1205 00:54:28,168 --> 00:54:30,585 something more complex, 1206 00:54:30,668 --> 00:54:32,251 and each person who looks at it, 1207 00:54:32,335 --> 00:54:34,126 you know, people see different things. 1208 00:54:34,210 --> 00:54:36,043 Where did the shots come from? 1209 00:54:36,126 --> 00:54:37,585 If the shots did not all come 1210 00:54:37,668 --> 00:54:39,168 from the Book Depository window, 1211 00:54:39,251 --> 00:54:42,251 then there was, most likely, some form of conspiracy. 1212 00:54:42,085 --> 00:54:44,126 I think that the, 1213 00:54:44,210 --> 00:54:45,710 that the massive head wound, 1214 00:54:45,793 --> 00:54:48,460 where the President's head was literally blown apart, 1215 00:54:48,543 --> 00:54:52,168 came from a cornering angle on the grassy knoll. 1216 00:54:52,668 --> 00:54:54,418 He's struck and his head 1217 00:54:54,501 --> 00:54:56,251 doesn't go directly back this way, 1218 00:54:56,085 --> 00:54:59,085 but it goes back and over this way, 1219 00:54:59,168 --> 00:55:00,626 which would be consistent with the shot 1220 00:55:00,710 --> 00:55:02,918 from that direction and Newton's Law of Motion. 1221 00:55:03,376 --> 00:55:06,335 Seven men on a railroad bridge right here 1222 00:55:06,418 --> 00:55:07,793 said that when the shots were fired, 1223 00:55:07,876 --> 00:55:09,210 they looked toward the wooden fence, 1224 00:55:09,293 --> 00:55:11,001 and each of the seven said he saw puffs of 1225 00:55:11,085 --> 00:55:12,668 white smoke come from here. 1226 00:55:13,126 --> 00:55:15,876 The grass knoll underneath that green tree, 1227 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,001 and you could see a little puff of smoke, 1228 00:55:18,085 --> 00:55:20,543 it looked like a puff of steam or cigarette smoke. 1229 00:55:20,626 --> 00:55:21,793 When you stop to think about it, 1230 00:55:21,876 --> 00:55:23,376 no one saw anyone with a gun, 1231 00:55:23,460 --> 00:55:25,460 rifle, on the grassy knoll. 1232 00:55:25,543 --> 00:55:28,710 No expended cartridges from a weapon were found there. 1233 00:55:28,793 --> 00:55:33,751 Not one bullet, other than those fired from Oswald's rifle 1234 00:55:33,835 --> 00:55:37,751 has ever been found and linked to the assassination. 1235 00:55:37,835 --> 00:55:40,126 Now, there were two doctors and one priest 1236 00:55:40,210 --> 00:55:42,543 who claim that-- who said flatly that there were... 1237 00:55:44,668 --> 00:55:47,668 ...entrance wounds in the President's neck. 1238 00:55:47,751 --> 00:55:49,168 If the wound in the President's throat 1239 00:55:49,251 --> 00:55:50,751 was an entrance wound, 1240 00:55:50,835 --> 00:55:52,751 then clearly this would be proof that 1241 00:55:52,835 --> 00:55:54,168 the bullet came from the front. 1242 00:55:54,251 --> 00:55:57,460 Mark Lane has suggested that 1243 00:55:57,543 --> 00:56:01,418 this wasn't an exit wound by the President's tie, 1244 00:56:01,501 --> 00:56:04,376 but an entry wound. That Kennedy was hit 1245 00:56:04,460 --> 00:56:06,043 in the throat from the front. 1246 00:56:06,126 --> 00:56:07,960 The doctor at Parkland 1247 00:56:08,168 --> 00:56:09,793 didn't want to talk 1248 00:56:09,876 --> 00:56:11,710 about the President's injuries, 1249 00:56:11,793 --> 00:56:13,960 but the press more or less forced him to. 1250 00:56:14,043 --> 00:56:15,168 And the wound in the President's throat 1251 00:56:15,251 --> 00:56:16,960 was pretty clean. 1252 00:56:17,043 --> 00:56:19,085 He thought it was an entrance wound. 1253 00:56:19,168 --> 00:56:20,501 What about this 1254 00:56:20,585 --> 00:56:24,251 wound that you observed in the, 1255 00:56:24,085 --> 00:56:26,668 in the front of the President's neck? 1256 00:56:27,251 --> 00:56:29,918 Actually, I didn't really give it much thought. 1257 00:56:30,001 --> 00:56:32,168 And I realize that perhaps it would've been better 1258 00:56:32,251 --> 00:56:34,085 had I done so. 1259 00:56:35,126 --> 00:56:36,501 There was a wound in the back of the neck 1260 00:56:36,585 --> 00:56:39,001 that had not been seen by the Parkland doctors 1261 00:56:39,085 --> 00:56:41,335 because they never turned the body over. 1262 00:56:41,418 --> 00:56:43,043 You did not turn the President over? 1263 00:56:43,126 --> 00:56:44,418 No, there was really no reason to, 1264 00:56:44,501 --> 00:56:46,085 it made very little difference to me, 1265 00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:49,126 since my immediate concern was 1266 00:56:49,210 --> 00:56:51,043 with an attempted resuscitation. 1267 00:56:51,626 --> 00:56:54,418 You can ad infinitum, 1268 00:56:54,501 --> 00:56:56,085 and people will only remember 1269 00:56:56,168 --> 00:56:59,168 that a doctor at Parkland said he had been shot, 1270 00:56:59,710 --> 00:57:01,293 you know, from possibly the front. 1271 00:57:02,210 --> 00:57:04,210 So it's, you know, kind of 1272 00:57:04,043 --> 00:57:06,168 trying to put the genie back in the bottle. 1273 00:57:07,376 --> 00:57:09,793 A bullet hit the President from the back, 1274 00:57:09,876 --> 00:57:11,460 bullet hit him from the front. 1275 00:57:12,085 --> 00:57:14,210 The bullet which killed him came from the right front. 1276 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,668 Unless the laws of physics were not working that day, 1277 00:57:18,501 --> 00:57:20,085 the reaction of the President... 1278 00:57:21,418 --> 00:57:23,251 ...tells us where that shot came from. 1279 00:57:23,918 --> 00:57:25,335 Some critics say 1280 00:57:25,418 --> 00:57:27,210 by the very fact that in the picture 1281 00:57:27,043 --> 00:57:29,251 you can clearly see the explosion of the bullet 1282 00:57:29,335 --> 00:57:30,918 on the front side of the President, 1283 00:57:31,001 --> 00:57:33,251 that that certainly indicates 1284 00:57:33,335 --> 00:57:35,210 the bullet came from the front. 1285 00:57:35,293 --> 00:57:38,251 Well I don't believe any physicist has ever said that. 1286 00:57:38,085 --> 00:57:40,585 Quite contrary, it does indicate that 1287 00:57:40,668 --> 00:57:42,210 the bullet was coming from behind. 1288 00:57:42,293 --> 00:57:44,251 It's a minor explosion where 1289 00:57:44,335 --> 00:57:46,418 pieces of material go generally 1290 00:57:46,501 --> 00:57:48,251 in the direction of the bullet. 1291 00:57:48,335 --> 00:57:50,085 Bugliosi: If you look at the individual frames 1292 00:57:50,168 --> 00:57:52,043 of the Zapruder film, 1293 00:57:53,168 --> 00:57:56,626 at 312, frame 312, the President's head's okay. 1294 00:57:57,376 --> 00:58:02,126 At frame 313, 1/18th of a second later, 1295 00:58:02,835 --> 00:58:04,418 the President is struck in the head. 1296 00:58:05,251 --> 00:58:08,085 In what direction is the President's head pushed? 1297 00:58:08,418 --> 00:58:12,001 Not backwards, but slightly forward. 1298 00:58:12,085 --> 00:58:14,876 Is there any doubt that the wound 1299 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,085 at the back of the President's head 1300 00:58:16,168 --> 00:58:17,335 was the entry wound? 1301 00:58:17,418 --> 00:58:19,335 There is absolutely no doubt, sir. 1302 00:58:20,126 --> 00:58:22,251 Bugliosi: So at the all-important 1303 00:58:22,085 --> 00:58:23,918 moment of impact, 1304 00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:28,293 the President's head is pushed forward, 1305 00:58:28,376 --> 00:58:30,126 indicating a shot from the rear, 1306 00:58:30,210 --> 00:58:32,126 where Lee Harvey Oswald was. 1307 00:58:42,251 --> 00:58:43,751 CBS News Inquiry 1308 00:58:43,835 --> 00:58:45,585 'The Warren Report' continues. 1309 00:58:46,168 --> 00:58:48,168 Cronkite: The time span between shots, 1310 00:58:48,251 --> 00:58:50,251 is a point upon which the critics have seized. 1311 00:58:50,751 --> 00:58:54,168 Could Oswald have fired three shots in 5.6 seconds? 1312 00:58:55,251 --> 00:58:56,501 There was a lot of attention being given 1313 00:58:56,585 --> 00:58:59,710 to the Zapruder film, and when exactly 1314 00:58:59,793 --> 00:59:02,251 the President was hit first, and then hit second. 1315 00:59:02,085 --> 00:59:03,710 Cronkite: CBS News had a 1316 00:59:03,793 --> 00:59:07,126 tower and target track constructed to match exactly 1317 00:59:07,210 --> 00:59:09,085 the heights and distances in Dealey Plaza. 1318 00:59:11,210 --> 00:59:13,418 Willens: If there wasn't enough time, 1319 00:59:13,501 --> 00:59:15,210 then you would have a second shooter. 1320 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,460 Bugliosi: Oswald was not an expert shot. 1321 00:59:17,543 --> 00:59:18,585 He was a good shot. 1322 00:59:18,668 --> 00:59:21,126 But making the shots was not that tough at all. 1323 00:59:21,210 --> 00:59:24,168 CBS did it. A guy from the military did it. 1324 00:59:26,751 --> 00:59:31,251 Those three shots he got off in 2.6 seconds. 1325 00:59:31,918 --> 00:59:35,251 The Zapruder film became the lens 1326 00:59:35,085 --> 00:59:37,126 through which the assassination was seen. 1327 00:59:37,210 --> 00:59:39,210 If it didn't happen on the Zapruder film, 1328 00:59:39,293 --> 00:59:40,585 it didn't happen. 1329 00:59:40,668 --> 00:59:43,210 Zapruder started his camera 1330 00:59:43,043 --> 00:59:46,085 after the limousine was about 70 feet 1331 00:59:46,168 --> 00:59:47,251 into Dealey Plaza. 1332 00:59:47,085 --> 00:59:49,543 Well, Oswald had the President 1333 00:59:49,626 --> 00:59:52,460 in his sights for many seconds before that. 1334 00:59:53,085 --> 00:59:55,210 And this gets into the whole question, 1335 00:59:55,043 --> 00:59:57,876 is how much time did Oswald have to shoot the President? 1336 00:59:59,418 --> 01:00:02,085 There are so many interesting questions 1337 01:00:02,168 --> 01:00:03,960 and problems that come from the film. 1338 01:00:04,043 --> 01:00:05,710 We believe so much in the image, 1339 01:00:05,793 --> 01:00:07,460 we believe so much in, in the sort of 1340 01:00:07,543 --> 01:00:11,126 ultimate truth of film and of images. 1341 01:00:11,210 --> 01:00:12,793 Then they become our memory. 1342 01:00:13,793 --> 01:00:17,126 Reporter: Is it impossible that the bullet would have 1343 01:00:17,210 --> 01:00:18,293 gone through President Kennedy, 1344 01:00:18,376 --> 01:00:19,710 gone through Governor Connally, 1345 01:00:19,793 --> 01:00:21,293 and not suffered any more damage 1346 01:00:21,376 --> 01:00:23,710 than is shown in this photograph? 1347 01:00:23,793 --> 01:00:25,251 Dr. Cyril H. Wecht: I, I would hesitate 1348 01:00:25,085 --> 01:00:28,251 really to say it is absolutely, 100 percent impossible. 1349 01:00:28,085 --> 01:00:30,876 But it is highly improbable. 1350 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,043 Could a single bullet 1351 01:00:32,126 --> 01:00:33,835 have wounded both President Kennedy 1352 01:00:33,918 --> 01:00:35,293 and Governor Connally? 1353 01:00:35,376 --> 01:00:37,251 The single bullet theory has become 1354 01:00:37,335 --> 01:00:40,335 perhaps the most controversial aspect of the report. 1355 01:00:40,418 --> 01:00:42,251 Holland: If the Warren Commission 1356 01:00:43,168 --> 01:00:44,335 couldn't prove that one shot had hit both men, 1357 01:00:44,418 --> 01:00:46,251 that meant there were two shooters, 1358 01:00:46,335 --> 01:00:48,168 ipso facto there's a conspiracy. 1359 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,876 Bugliosi: The conspiracy theorists 1360 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,960 claim that the second shot was a magic bullet. 1361 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,668 They argue that a bullet 1362 01:00:55,751 --> 01:00:57,335 would have had to make a right turn 1363 01:00:57,418 --> 01:01:00,168 and then a left turn in mid air. 1364 01:01:00,668 --> 01:01:03,085 The reality is that Connally was not seated 1365 01:01:03,168 --> 01:01:04,751 directly in front of Kennedy. 1366 01:01:05,751 --> 01:01:06,876 If you figure out the alignment 1367 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,668 of where the men sat, 1368 01:01:08,751 --> 01:01:12,710 and if you look down the Mannlicher-Carcano, as I did, 1369 01:01:12,793 --> 01:01:15,668 and as the others did who conducted the onsite test, 1370 01:01:15,751 --> 01:01:18,418 and had the automobile placed in the position, 1371 01:01:18,501 --> 01:01:21,168 it is perfectly plain, I submit to you, 1372 01:01:21,251 --> 01:01:23,251 that the bullet that exited from 1373 01:01:23,085 --> 01:01:24,418 President Kennedy's throat 1374 01:01:24,501 --> 01:01:27,585 would have to strike either the automobile, 1375 01:01:27,668 --> 01:01:30,418 which it did not, or someone else in the automobile. 1376 01:01:31,251 --> 01:01:33,668 To believe that it didn't hit Governor Connally, 1377 01:01:33,751 --> 01:01:35,793 that would be a real magic bullet, 1378 01:01:35,876 --> 01:01:37,460 one that disappeared in thin air. 1379 01:01:40,418 --> 01:01:42,001 Reporter: To the Dallas County Courthouse 1380 01:01:42,085 --> 01:01:44,626 for more developments on the Jack Ruby verdict. 1381 01:01:46,043 --> 01:01:48,126 Jack Ruby has just been found 1382 01:01:48,210 --> 01:01:49,710 guilty of murder with malice 1383 01:01:49,793 --> 01:01:51,960 and has been given the maximum sentence, 1384 01:01:52,043 --> 01:01:53,418 death in the electric chair, 1385 01:01:53,501 --> 01:01:56,293 after the jury deliberated two hours and 25 minutes. 1386 01:01:56,918 --> 01:01:58,793 Just what do you think of this verdict? 1387 01:01:58,876 --> 01:02:03,001 I believe that Jack Ruby was a paid killer, 1388 01:02:03,918 --> 01:02:07,835 to close the mouth of my son, Lee Harvey Oswald. 1389 01:02:08,626 --> 01:02:10,710 Holland: The question of whether Ruby 1390 01:02:10,793 --> 01:02:14,126 knew Oswald before or was in cahoots to kill him is 1391 01:02:14,210 --> 01:02:16,043 one of the most important questions. 1392 01:02:16,793 --> 01:02:18,751 Willens: Because Ruby knew people in 1393 01:02:18,835 --> 01:02:22,168 criminal activities, there was a lot of investigation 1394 01:02:22,251 --> 01:02:24,751 about a potential conspiracy. 1395 01:02:24,835 --> 01:02:26,751 Ruby would've been one of the most 1396 01:02:26,835 --> 01:02:30,335 unlikely and worst hit men that the Mob could ever get. 1397 01:02:32,501 --> 01:02:34,668 Phil Burleson: On November 24, 1963, 1398 01:02:34,751 --> 01:02:36,168 Lee Harvey Oswald is supposed to 1399 01:02:36,251 --> 01:02:37,960 have been transferred at 10:00. 1400 01:02:38,043 --> 01:02:40,668 At 10:00 the evidence is undisputed that 1401 01:02:40,751 --> 01:02:42,668 Jack Ruby as at home asleep. 1402 01:02:42,751 --> 01:02:45,668 Then he got dressed and drove downtown. 1403 01:02:45,751 --> 01:02:47,210 The receipt shows that 1404 01:02:47,043 --> 01:02:48,835 Ruby was sending a money order 1405 01:02:48,918 --> 01:02:51,001 to one of his strippers from a Western Union office 1406 01:02:51,085 --> 01:02:54,168 across from the courthouse at 11:17 AM. 1407 01:02:54,251 --> 01:02:56,085 We know that at 11:20, 1408 01:02:56,793 --> 01:02:59,126 three minutes later, a block away, 1409 01:02:59,210 --> 01:03:01,251 Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald. 1410 01:03:01,626 --> 01:03:04,168 And the evidence showed that he was down there 1411 01:03:04,251 --> 01:03:06,418 anywhere from five to 15 seconds. 1412 01:03:07,001 --> 01:03:08,418 Five to 15 seconds! 1413 01:03:08,501 --> 01:03:10,293 If this is a hired assassin 1414 01:03:11,001 --> 01:03:13,251 who is supposed to have some advanced information, 1415 01:03:13,668 --> 01:03:15,376 he is the world's best timer. 1416 01:03:22,501 --> 01:03:24,168 What type of man is he? 1417 01:03:24,043 --> 01:03:26,751 Uh, Jack is a very emotional type person, 1418 01:03:26,835 --> 01:03:29,460 and um, as I was saying a while ago, 1419 01:03:29,543 --> 01:03:31,043 he is the type of man that probably would give you 1420 01:03:31,126 --> 01:03:32,460 the shirt off his back one moment, 1421 01:03:32,543 --> 01:03:33,835 and then turn around and do something 1422 01:03:33,918 --> 01:03:35,501 as nutty as this in the next. 1423 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,710 Jack Ruby: I never used the term angry, 1424 01:03:37,793 --> 01:03:40,043 that's not in my vocabulary. 1425 01:03:40,126 --> 01:03:43,126 He was known for a quick temper. 1426 01:03:43,210 --> 01:03:45,960 And later, as it turned out, 1427 01:03:46,043 --> 01:03:49,126 he was hooked on two kinds of speed, 1428 01:03:49,210 --> 01:03:51,501 Preludin and Benzedrine at the time of the shooting. 1429 01:03:53,210 --> 01:03:56,126 He had been here at the police station 1430 01:03:56,210 --> 01:03:58,168 during the past two days, talking with newsmen 1431 01:03:58,043 --> 01:04:01,085 and distributing his card and also making friends. 1432 01:04:01,751 --> 01:04:05,668 Jack Ruby was a police and media groupie. 1433 01:04:05,751 --> 01:04:07,918 Ruby thought he was our friend. 1434 01:04:08,001 --> 01:04:11,085 So, I'm in this very same room Friday night 1435 01:04:11,168 --> 01:04:12,751 when we had the defendant up here. 1436 01:04:13,168 --> 01:04:15,210 If some of you will recall, he asked a question 1437 01:04:15,293 --> 01:04:16,418 from out here in the audience, 1438 01:04:16,501 --> 01:04:17,835 he was standing right back here and I didn't know 1439 01:04:17,918 --> 01:04:21,043 who he was. I thought he was a member of the press. 1440 01:04:21,126 --> 01:04:23,001 And he told me, as we walked out of here, 1441 01:04:23,085 --> 01:04:24,668 that he was a nightclub operator. 1442 01:04:25,876 --> 01:04:28,085 Ruby's act was that of a vigilante. 1443 01:04:28,168 --> 01:04:30,043 He wanted nothing more to be known, 1444 01:04:30,543 --> 01:04:32,335 you know, people to flock to his nightclub, 1445 01:04:32,418 --> 01:04:35,043 to shake the hand of the man who killed, 1446 01:04:35,126 --> 01:04:37,335 the man who killed the president. 1447 01:04:37,418 --> 01:04:41,251 I might add, if Ruby silenced Oswald for the mob, 1448 01:04:41,335 --> 01:04:43,710 who was supposed to silence Jack Ruby? 1449 01:04:44,293 --> 01:04:48,210 He died of normal causes over three years later. 1450 01:04:49,251 --> 01:04:52,210 Now, one would think that the conspiracy community 1451 01:04:52,293 --> 01:04:54,668 would fold its tent and go home. 1452 01:04:54,751 --> 01:04:59,293 But they continued, undaunted and unfazed with this obsession. 1453 01:05:00,043 --> 01:05:02,085 Their game is to fool you. 1454 01:05:03,293 --> 01:05:06,585 These people want the investigations stopped. 1455 01:05:07,751 --> 01:05:09,751 They don't want a trial at all. 1456 01:05:10,585 --> 01:05:12,168 Please believe me. 1457 01:05:21,501 --> 01:05:22,918 Now, the most recent, 1458 01:05:23,001 --> 01:05:25,251 most spectacular development in the Oswald case 1459 01:05:25,085 --> 01:05:27,168 involves the CIA. 1460 01:05:27,251 --> 01:05:29,418 It involves too, the spectacular 1461 01:05:29,501 --> 01:05:31,501 District Attorney of New Orleans, 1462 01:05:31,585 --> 01:05:34,460 a man they call the "Jolly Green Giant." 1463 01:05:35,168 --> 01:05:37,168 Do you believe that Lee Harvey Oswald 1464 01:05:37,251 --> 01:05:39,626 did not shoot President Kennedy? 1465 01:05:39,710 --> 01:05:41,293 Jim Garrison: I don't want to get involved in the 1466 01:05:41,376 --> 01:05:43,460 speculations as to individuals, 1467 01:05:43,543 --> 01:05:45,626 but I will say that it, there's no question 1468 01:05:45,710 --> 01:05:47,126 about the fact that there, 1469 01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:49,043 there was a plot and there were 1470 01:05:49,126 --> 01:05:50,626 a number of individuals involved. 1471 01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:56,126 In 1967, he announced, "I've solved the case, 1472 01:05:56,210 --> 01:05:59,043 I've found the real assassin." 1473 01:05:59,126 --> 01:06:00,335 We will make arrests 1474 01:06:00,418 --> 01:06:02,585 based on that, and we will make charges 1475 01:06:02,668 --> 01:06:03,876 based on that, 1476 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,043 and we will obtain convictions based on that. 1477 01:06:06,126 --> 01:06:07,835 Now, you wouldn't pay much attention to this 1478 01:06:07,918 --> 01:06:13,001 to this except he was District Attorney of New Orleans. 1479 01:06:14,918 --> 01:06:17,001 I've spent hour after hour with Jim Garrison. 1480 01:06:18,585 --> 01:06:22,085 He has presented his case to me, detail by detail. 1481 01:06:22,168 --> 01:06:25,210 The Mark Lanes and the conspiracy theorists 1482 01:06:25,043 --> 01:06:26,876 all flocked, initially, to Garrison. 1483 01:06:27,585 --> 01:06:31,126 And I can report that a powerful domestic force, 1484 01:06:32,043 --> 01:06:35,876 a force that is still part of the American structure 1485 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,668 planned and initiated those acts 1486 01:06:39,126 --> 01:06:41,001 that resulted in the assassination 1487 01:06:41,085 --> 01:06:42,668 of President Kennedy. 1488 01:06:43,085 --> 01:06:44,501 They all thought, "Here's a guy 1489 01:06:44,585 --> 01:06:47,043 who is finally going to bring the case 1490 01:06:47,126 --> 01:06:49,793 that we've been, you know, arguing about for years." 1491 01:06:49,876 --> 01:06:51,501 If I seem somewhat confident, 1492 01:06:51,585 --> 01:06:54,751 it is because our office is in its fifth year 1493 01:06:54,835 --> 01:06:56,793 and it has never lost a murder case. 1494 01:06:56,876 --> 01:06:59,501 The press initially builds Garrison up 1495 01:06:59,585 --> 01:07:00,876 because everybody believes 1496 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,751 no District Attorney in his right mind 1497 01:07:03,835 --> 01:07:05,418 would do this unless he had something. 1498 01:07:10,918 --> 01:07:12,126 Bill Gurvich: Arrested this evening 1499 01:07:12,210 --> 01:07:13,918 in the District Attorney's office 1500 01:07:14,001 --> 01:07:16,418 was Clay Shaw, age 54, 1501 01:07:16,501 --> 01:07:19,793 of 1313 Darbeen Street of New Orleans, Louisiana. 1502 01:07:21,085 --> 01:07:23,876 Mr Shaw will be charged with participation 1503 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,168 in the conspiracy to murder John F. Kennedy. 1504 01:07:27,751 --> 01:07:29,043 The charges filed against me 1505 01:07:29,126 --> 01:07:31,043 have no foundation in fact, or in law. 1506 01:07:32,168 --> 01:07:33,168 I have not been apprised 1507 01:07:33,251 --> 01:07:35,376 of the basis of these fantastic charges, 1508 01:07:35,460 --> 01:07:37,210 and assume that, in due course 1509 01:07:37,043 --> 01:07:39,043 I'll be furnished with this information 1510 01:07:39,126 --> 01:07:40,043 and will be afforded an opportunity 1511 01:07:40,126 --> 01:07:41,960 to prove my innocence. 1512 01:07:42,668 --> 01:07:44,168 Holland: Clay Shaw was a very well 1513 01:07:44,251 --> 01:07:46,876 respected businessman in New Orleans. 1514 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,793 He had been a distinguished soldier during WWII. 1515 01:07:50,876 --> 01:07:52,168 Rosemary James: I knew Clay Shaw. 1516 01:07:52,251 --> 01:07:54,168 And the concept of Clay Shaw 1517 01:07:54,251 --> 01:07:57,418 as being part of an assassination conspiracy 1518 01:07:57,501 --> 01:07:59,085 was just too weird to be believed. 1519 01:07:59,918 --> 01:08:01,918 Clay Shaw was also homosexual, 1520 01:08:02,418 --> 01:08:05,376 and closeted, and I think that played a part. 1521 01:08:06,085 --> 01:08:09,210 This decision to arrest Clay Shaw 1522 01:08:09,043 --> 01:08:14,293 I believe, was intended to get the national media back to town. 1523 01:08:14,376 --> 01:08:16,001 As soon as he arrested Clay Shaw, 1524 01:08:16,085 --> 01:08:17,251 they all came back. 1525 01:08:17,085 --> 01:08:18,835 Holland: And then they realized 1526 01:08:18,918 --> 01:08:20,501 the truth that there isn't anything there. 1527 01:08:21,210 --> 01:08:22,710 Reporter: Garrison has based his case 1528 01:08:22,793 --> 01:08:24,293 on the certainty that he can prove 1529 01:08:24,376 --> 01:08:27,085 Clay Shaw is Clay or Clem Bertrand. 1530 01:08:28,251 --> 01:08:29,876 The name "Clem Bertrand" was first 1531 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,168 introduced by a lawyer, named Dean Andrews, 1532 01:08:32,251 --> 01:08:33,668 who told the Warren Commission a person 1533 01:08:33,751 --> 01:08:35,668 by that name telephoned him, 1534 01:08:35,751 --> 01:08:37,543 suggesting he provide legal defense 1535 01:08:37,626 --> 01:08:39,043 for Lee Oswald. 1536 01:08:39,126 --> 01:08:41,668 Dean had described Clem Bertrand 1537 01:08:41,751 --> 01:08:44,418 as having gay tendencies 1538 01:08:44,501 --> 01:08:47,835 and representing gays as a lawyer. 1539 01:08:47,918 --> 01:08:51,126 Therefore, Garrison believed Clem Bertrand 1540 01:08:51,210 --> 01:08:53,876 must be Clay Shaw. 1541 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:59,210 That was the extent of Garrison's investigation. 1542 01:08:59,585 --> 01:09:01,376 Do you have enough evidence now to go to trial? 1543 01:09:01,460 --> 01:09:05,001 Well if, if I answered that, 1544 01:09:05,085 --> 01:09:06,835 I shouldn't be District Attorney. 1545 01:09:06,918 --> 01:09:08,293 The case he has built against 1546 01:09:08,376 --> 01:09:10,043 Clay Shaw is based on testimony 1547 01:09:10,126 --> 01:09:12,376 that did not pass a lie detector test 1548 01:09:12,460 --> 01:09:14,626 that Garrison ordered. And Garrison knew it. 1549 01:09:14,710 --> 01:09:17,168 Reporter: Can you say positively that 1550 01:09:17,251 --> 01:09:19,210 the person you knew as Clay Bertrand 1551 01:09:19,043 --> 01:09:21,293 is not the person you are seeing as Clay Shaw? 1552 01:09:21,376 --> 01:09:23,210 Scout's honor, he is not. 1553 01:09:23,793 --> 01:09:26,251 Garrison started bribing witnesses, 1554 01:09:26,085 --> 01:09:28,376 intimidating witnesses. 1555 01:09:28,460 --> 01:09:30,251 He said, I could be made to serve this 1556 01:09:30,085 --> 01:09:31,960 whole nine-year sentence... 1557 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,751 ...or I could be cut loose right away. 1558 01:09:34,835 --> 01:09:37,293 Hypnotizing witnesses. 1559 01:09:37,376 --> 01:09:38,585 We decided to give him 1560 01:09:38,668 --> 01:09:41,168 objectifying machinery to make sure 1561 01:09:41,251 --> 01:09:43,085 he was telling the truth. 1562 01:09:43,168 --> 01:09:45,001 Leon 1563 01:09:46,001 --> 01:09:47,918 Leon, does Leon have a last name? 1564 01:09:48,251 --> 01:09:50,085 Oswald. 1565 01:09:51,251 --> 01:09:52,293 Would you say these, the methods were illegal? 1566 01:09:52,376 --> 01:09:54,085 I would say very illegal and unethical. 1567 01:09:54,668 --> 01:09:56,126 And he had everyone and 1568 01:09:56,210 --> 01:09:58,085 their grandmother involved in the assassination. 1569 01:09:58,168 --> 01:10:00,335 At one time it was oil millionaires. 1570 01:10:00,418 --> 01:10:02,335 Then it was the Minutemen. 1571 01:10:02,418 --> 01:10:04,585 Then it was a homosexual killing. 1572 01:10:04,668 --> 01:10:06,210 Yes, sir? 1573 01:10:06,043 --> 01:10:07,543 Do you feel that homosexuality 1574 01:10:07,626 --> 01:10:09,543 or coercion through homosexuality 1575 01:10:09,626 --> 01:10:11,043 was a factor in the finding 1576 01:10:11,126 --> 01:10:12,210 or the assassination of John F. Kennedy? 1577 01:10:12,293 --> 01:10:14,001 No comment. 1578 01:10:14,085 --> 01:10:15,210 At one point he had 16 assassins 1579 01:10:15,293 --> 01:10:17,085 in Dealey Plaza. 1580 01:10:17,168 --> 01:10:19,043 With that many assassins, I don't know how Kennedy 1581 01:10:19,126 --> 01:10:21,043 made it to the autopsy table. 1582 01:10:21,126 --> 01:10:23,210 Garrison announced he had discovered a code. 1583 01:10:23,043 --> 01:10:26,210 Garrison says Jack Ruby's unlisted telephone number 1584 01:10:26,293 --> 01:10:27,793 appears in address books 1585 01:10:27,876 --> 01:10:29,793 belonging to Shaw and Oswald. 1586 01:10:29,876 --> 01:10:31,793 So, if you take the P and the O, 1587 01:10:31,876 --> 01:10:33,043 and you use a telephone dial, 1588 01:10:33,126 --> 01:10:35,210 P gives you seven, O gives you six. 1589 01:10:35,043 --> 01:10:37,751 He just changed the digits around, 1590 01:10:37,835 --> 01:10:40,668 added digits, added letters. 1591 01:10:40,751 --> 01:10:42,251 And you reconstruct the numbers, 1592 01:10:42,085 --> 01:10:45,085 and, and that, and then you subtract 1300, 1593 01:10:45,168 --> 01:10:47,918 and that gives you Ruby's unlisted telephone number. 1594 01:10:48,001 --> 01:10:49,210 Reporter: Well, Mr. Garrison, 1595 01:10:49,293 --> 01:10:51,168 if the P-O didn't exist until late '65, 1596 01:10:51,251 --> 01:10:53,835 how could it then be Jack Ruby's phone number? 1597 01:10:53,918 --> 01:10:55,376 Well that's a problem for you to think over 1598 01:10:55,460 --> 01:10:56,918 because you obviously missed the point. 1599 01:10:57,001 --> 01:11:00,251 Whenever anyone would expose Garrison, 1600 01:11:00,085 --> 01:11:02,501 he would then say they're CIA agents 1601 01:11:02,585 --> 01:11:04,293 because he's part of the conspiracy. 1602 01:11:04,376 --> 01:11:07,126 Who's suppressing all of this information, on whose order? 1603 01:11:07,210 --> 01:11:08,418 I'll tell you who's suppressing it, 1604 01:11:08,501 --> 01:11:10,168 the Federal Government is suppressing it-- 1605 01:11:10,251 --> 01:11:11,835 Who in the Federal Government? 1606 01:11:11,918 --> 01:11:13,168 The administration, 1607 01:11:13,251 --> 01:11:15,043 the administration of your government 1608 01:11:15,126 --> 01:11:17,001 is suppressing it because they know 1609 01:11:17,085 --> 01:11:19,085 that the Central Intelligence Agency-- 1610 01:11:19,168 --> 01:11:20,751 On whose order? 1611 01:11:21,501 --> 01:11:24,168 On the order of the President of the United States. 1612 01:11:24,251 --> 01:11:25,585 Mr. Garrison has come up with 1613 01:11:25,668 --> 01:11:28,251 no credible evidence to support 1614 01:11:28,085 --> 01:11:30,001 any of his theories. 1615 01:11:30,085 --> 01:11:31,585 I think it is unfortunate 1616 01:11:31,668 --> 01:11:33,210 that the media of this country 1617 01:11:33,293 --> 01:11:35,418 has become so hysterical 1618 01:11:35,501 --> 01:11:37,710 for fear of what it might see, 1619 01:11:37,793 --> 01:11:40,168 that it spends a good deal of its time and energy 1620 01:11:40,251 --> 01:11:42,668 attacking the one serious investigation. 1621 01:11:42,751 --> 01:11:44,085 The results of this four months of 1622 01:11:44,168 --> 01:11:46,293 public investigation have been to damage reputations, 1623 01:11:46,376 --> 01:11:48,168 to spread fear and suspicion, 1624 01:11:48,251 --> 01:11:50,293 and worst of all, to exploit the nation's sorrow 1625 01:11:50,376 --> 01:11:52,460 and doubts about President Kennedy's death. 1626 01:11:52,543 --> 01:11:54,001 I can't make any more comments 1627 01:11:54,085 --> 01:11:55,876 about the case, except to say, 1628 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,043 anybody that thinks it's just a theory 1629 01:11:58,126 --> 01:11:59,376 is going to be awfully surprised 1630 01:11:59,460 --> 01:12:01,043 when it comes to trial. 1631 01:12:01,126 --> 01:12:03,793 Roll one, sound on film, Clay Shaw trial. 1632 01:12:08,126 --> 01:12:10,793 Clay Shaw came to court in good spirits today. 1633 01:12:10,876 --> 01:12:12,210 With his long awaited trial underway, 1634 01:12:12,293 --> 01:12:13,710 Shaw seems almost relieved 1635 01:12:13,793 --> 01:12:15,960 that his case is finally being heard. 1636 01:12:16,376 --> 01:12:18,251 Shaw sits quietly in this courthouse, 1637 01:12:18,335 --> 01:12:20,918 chain smoking cigarettes. He does not react 1638 01:12:21,001 --> 01:12:23,501 when the State talks about things like conspiracy. 1639 01:12:23,585 --> 01:12:26,210 The trial went on for six weeks. 1640 01:12:26,293 --> 01:12:28,085 It's important to note that 1641 01:12:28,168 --> 01:12:32,335 not one witness produced by Garrison 1642 01:12:32,418 --> 01:12:34,376 survived cross examination. 1643 01:12:35,293 --> 01:12:38,585 They were all proven to be unreliable at best. 1644 01:12:38,668 --> 01:12:40,751 It was the most shameful thing you've ever seen. 1645 01:12:40,835 --> 01:12:42,335 Everyone knew in the courtroom 1646 01:12:42,418 --> 01:12:45,085 that Clay Shaw couldn't possibly 1647 01:12:45,501 --> 01:12:47,126 have been more innocent. 1648 01:12:47,210 --> 01:12:50,168 In a unanimous verdict by a 12-man jury, 1649 01:12:50,251 --> 01:12:52,126 Shaw was found not guilty of 1650 01:12:52,210 --> 01:12:54,001 charges that he conspired to kill 1651 01:12:54,085 --> 01:12:55,835 the late President John Kennedy. 1652 01:12:57,251 --> 01:12:58,626 Reporter: Clay, you know what our 1653 01:12:58,710 --> 01:13:00,001 first question is gonna be, don't you? 1654 01:13:00,085 --> 01:13:01,126 What? 1655 01:13:01,210 --> 01:13:02,751 Reporter: Well, why did you do it? 1656 01:13:02,835 --> 01:13:04,085 (laughter) 1657 01:13:04,168 --> 01:13:05,960 After the not guilty verdict, 1658 01:13:06,043 --> 01:13:07,251 editorials around the country 1659 01:13:07,335 --> 01:13:09,168 said it's one of the darkest chapters 1660 01:13:09,251 --> 01:13:11,501 in American jurisprudence history. 1661 01:13:11,585 --> 01:13:13,085 It's just a crime. 1662 01:13:13,168 --> 01:13:15,501 Lane: From what I saw and heard, 1663 01:13:15,585 --> 01:13:17,126 I didn't think he had proven 1664 01:13:17,210 --> 01:13:19,918 Clay Shaw's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. 1665 01:13:20,001 --> 01:13:21,835 I would have voted not guilty for Clay Shaw. 1666 01:13:22,460 --> 01:13:23,710 Clay Shaw: I think that Garrison feels 1667 01:13:23,793 --> 01:13:27,043 that the end justifies the means. 1668 01:13:27,126 --> 01:13:30,251 And he felt that if he could bring to the 1669 01:13:30,085 --> 01:13:31,668 American people what he considers the truth 1670 01:13:31,751 --> 01:13:33,418 about the death of their President, 1671 01:13:33,501 --> 01:13:36,210 any means whatsoever was, was to be used. 1672 01:13:36,043 --> 01:13:38,210 It didn't matter much who got hurt in the process. 1673 01:13:38,293 --> 01:13:43,043 I would sum it up by saying, that any society 1674 01:13:43,126 --> 01:13:46,251 which allows a man like Jack Kennedy 1675 01:13:46,085 --> 01:13:49,210 to have the top of his head torn off, 1676 01:13:49,293 --> 01:13:52,210 and then protects the assassins, 1677 01:13:52,501 --> 01:13:54,835 and obstructs any inquiry, 1678 01:13:54,918 --> 01:13:56,918 in an attempt to find the truth 1679 01:13:57,001 --> 01:13:59,168 is not a great society. 1680 01:14:09,751 --> 01:14:11,543 Information concerning the cause 1681 01:14:11,626 --> 01:14:13,043 of the death of your President 1682 01:14:13,126 --> 01:14:14,710 has been withheld from you. 1683 01:14:16,335 --> 01:14:18,418 Bugliosi: To show you how un-credible 1684 01:14:18,501 --> 01:14:20,085 the conspiracy theorists are, 1685 01:14:20,168 --> 01:14:21,751 over the last 50 years, 1686 01:14:22,168 --> 01:14:23,668 at one time or another, 1687 01:14:23,751 --> 01:14:26,043 they have accused 42 groups, 1688 01:14:26,126 --> 01:14:30,043 82 assassins and 214 people 1689 01:14:30,668 --> 01:14:32,293 of being involved in the assassination. 1690 01:14:33,126 --> 01:14:35,043 Could Oswald really have done this? 1691 01:14:35,126 --> 01:14:38,918 As a reporter, the greatest story for us 1692 01:14:39,001 --> 01:14:40,251 would have been to find out somebody 1693 01:14:40,335 --> 01:14:42,043 other than Oswald did it. 1694 01:14:42,126 --> 01:14:43,668 And we tried hard to do that, 1695 01:14:43,751 --> 01:14:46,210 but at every turn in the Kennedy Assassination, 1696 01:14:46,876 --> 01:14:48,543 things pointed to Oswald as 1697 01:14:48,626 --> 01:14:51,710 not only a shooter, but the shooter, 1698 01:14:51,793 --> 01:14:53,085 and the only shooter. 1699 01:14:53,168 --> 01:14:55,001 (commotion) 1700 01:14:56,460 --> 01:14:57,793 Bugliosi: At its core, 1701 01:14:57,876 --> 01:14:59,751 this is a very simple case. 1702 01:15:01,085 --> 01:15:03,835 I don't know what this is all about. 1703 01:15:03,918 --> 01:15:06,043 If a person is innocent of a crime, 1704 01:15:06,126 --> 01:15:07,335 chances are there's not gonna be any, 1705 01:15:07,418 --> 01:15:08,960 any evidence pointing towards his guilt. Why? 1706 01:15:09,043 --> 01:15:10,460 Because he's innocent. 1707 01:15:10,543 --> 01:15:12,626 But with Oswald, the physical evidence, 1708 01:15:12,710 --> 01:15:14,460 the direct and circumstantial evidence, 1709 01:15:14,543 --> 01:15:18,210 scientific evidence, everything points towards his guilt. 1710 01:15:19,918 --> 01:15:21,751 We'll never know 1711 01:15:21,835 --> 01:15:24,043 why Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy because he's dead. 1712 01:15:24,126 --> 01:15:26,126 But there are certain things we do know. 1713 01:15:27,293 --> 01:15:28,876 Chet Huntley: At the age of 13, 1714 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,335 a probation officer says 1715 01:15:30,418 --> 01:15:32,210 he remembers Oswald as a truant, 1716 01:15:32,293 --> 01:15:34,710 a troubled boy in need of psychiatric help 1717 01:15:34,793 --> 01:15:36,751 without which he might turn violent. 1718 01:15:36,835 --> 01:15:38,876 Brinkley: After starting in high school, 1719 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,418 he promptly joined the Marines. 1720 01:15:40,501 --> 01:15:43,626 Oswald's Marine career ended in 1959 1721 01:15:43,710 --> 01:15:45,835 when he was dishonorably discharged. 1722 01:15:45,918 --> 01:15:48,001 A month later he was in Moscow 1723 01:15:48,085 --> 01:15:49,585 where he announced his decision 1724 01:15:49,668 --> 01:15:51,668 to renounce his American citizenship. 1725 01:15:51,751 --> 01:15:53,001 Reporter: Are you a Marxist? 1726 01:15:53,085 --> 01:15:54,751 Oh, I would very definitely say that 1727 01:15:54,835 --> 01:15:56,751 I, I am a Marxist, that is correct. 1728 01:15:56,835 --> 01:16:00,085 But I, that does not mean, however, that I am a communist. 1729 01:16:00,168 --> 01:16:02,251 He desperately wants to become a Soviet citizen, 1730 01:16:02,335 --> 01:16:04,418 he wants to renounce his American citizenship. 1731 01:16:05,251 --> 01:16:07,460 They turn him down. What does he do? 1732 01:16:07,543 --> 01:16:09,626 He slashes his wrists, tries to commit suicide. 1733 01:16:12,710 --> 01:16:14,043 Lee Harvey Oswald 1734 01:16:14,126 --> 01:16:16,376 had these dreams or delusions that he had been 1735 01:16:16,460 --> 01:16:18,501 harboring for a long time 1736 01:16:18,585 --> 01:16:22,251 of an act that would lift him from his obscurity. 1737 01:16:23,001 --> 01:16:25,001 A squad mate of his in the Marines... 1738 01:16:26,376 --> 01:16:28,543 ...said that Oswald wanted to do something 1739 01:16:28,626 --> 01:16:32,085 that 10,000 years from now people would be talking about. 1740 01:16:32,168 --> 01:16:34,001 It looked to me like... 1741 01:16:35,293 --> 01:16:38,376 ...an irrat-- a stupid, irrational act, 1742 01:16:38,460 --> 01:16:40,210 the opportunity presented itself to him 1743 01:16:40,293 --> 01:16:41,918 and he probably wanted to make a mark on 1744 01:16:42,001 --> 01:16:44,710 society and suddenly occurred to him that he could. 1745 01:16:45,501 --> 01:16:46,918 Willens: People who think Oswald was 1746 01:16:47,001 --> 01:16:48,668 sort of a patsy and, 1747 01:16:48,751 --> 01:16:51,876 and such an ineffectual, innocent person forgot that, 1748 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,835 when Oswald was stopped by a police car 1749 01:16:53,918 --> 01:16:56,210 and a policeman gets out unarmed to talk to him, 1750 01:16:56,293 --> 01:16:59,043 Oswald shoots him four times in the middle of the body. 1751 01:16:59,126 --> 01:17:03,668 That, plus his, his previous attempt on General Walker. 1752 01:17:03,751 --> 01:17:06,126 Interestingly, on Saturday morning 1753 01:17:06,210 --> 01:17:08,376 in the Dallas Morning News, 1754 01:17:08,460 --> 01:17:11,126 it said that there may be a connection 1755 01:17:11,210 --> 01:17:13,043 between this guy who was just arrested 1756 01:17:13,126 --> 01:17:16,543 for killing a police officer and President Kennedy, 1757 01:17:16,626 --> 01:17:20,085 and this effort to assassinate 1758 01:17:20,751 --> 01:17:22,335 General Walker back in April. 1759 01:17:24,251 --> 01:17:28,418 Oswald used to attend a small discussion group, 1760 01:17:28,501 --> 01:17:32,251 and he began to rail against this right wing general, 1761 01:17:32,085 --> 01:17:35,918 Edwin Walker, who was calling for the invasion of Cuba. 1762 01:17:36,376 --> 01:17:37,835 General Walker 1763 01:17:37,918 --> 01:17:40,918 was about as right wing as you got in the early '60s. 1764 01:17:41,001 --> 01:17:45,126 And Oswald saw Walker as a American Adolf Hitler. 1765 01:17:45,210 --> 01:17:48,168 And Oswald said someone should kill Walker. 1766 01:17:49,001 --> 01:17:51,710 He then ordered a rifle with a sniper scope, 1767 01:17:51,793 --> 01:17:54,960 and he planned, very meticulously 1768 01:17:55,043 --> 01:17:57,751 his assassination of General Walker. 1769 01:17:57,835 --> 01:18:00,585 He took photographs from different angles, 1770 01:18:00,668 --> 01:18:04,335 he figured out how to get his rifle there, and how to escape. 1771 01:18:05,043 --> 01:18:07,376 On March 31, a Sunday, 1772 01:18:07,835 --> 01:18:11,626 he asked Marina to come out and take his photograph. 1773 01:18:12,418 --> 01:18:17,126 All in black, pistol, rifle in his hand, 1774 01:18:17,210 --> 01:18:19,835 holding a few radical newspapers, 1775 01:18:19,918 --> 01:18:24,043 and Marina writes on the back, "Hunter of fascists" 1776 01:18:24,126 --> 01:18:29,210 and dates it April 6, 1963. 1777 01:18:30,085 --> 01:18:31,168 McMillan: And then he went, 1778 01:18:31,251 --> 01:18:33,876 on the night of the 10th of April, 1779 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,126 took up his place and shot at General Walker. 1780 01:18:38,085 --> 01:18:41,210 He come in the house 11:30. 1781 01:18:42,251 --> 01:18:45,001 He was so pale, nervous and 1782 01:18:45,085 --> 01:18:47,210 don't want to talk. I said, what happened to him, 1783 01:18:47,043 --> 01:18:49,293 and he said-- he told, 1784 01:18:49,376 --> 01:18:53,085 "I tried to shot General Walker." 1785 01:18:53,626 --> 01:18:54,793 General, will you describe for us 1786 01:18:54,876 --> 01:18:56,501 just what happened last night? 1787 01:18:56,585 --> 01:18:59,001 Maj. Gen. Edwin Walker: Rifle shot was fired into the house, 1788 01:18:59,085 --> 01:19:00,835 fired thorough the west window, 1789 01:19:01,918 --> 01:19:04,418 and hit the sill and hit the wall across 1790 01:19:04,501 --> 01:19:06,210 the room and went over the desk 1791 01:19:06,293 --> 01:19:08,126 at which I was sitting. 1792 01:19:08,918 --> 01:19:10,626 Priscilla McMillan: He was very disappointed 1793 01:19:10,710 --> 01:19:12,835 to find out that he'd missed 1794 01:19:12,918 --> 01:19:14,501 by less than an inch. 1795 01:19:15,126 --> 01:19:18,210 It shows his ability to plan who his target was, 1796 01:19:18,293 --> 01:19:21,085 and that Oswald was capable of violence. 1797 01:19:22,251 --> 01:19:25,251 I think that was kind of the Rosetta Stone, 1798 01:19:25,085 --> 01:19:29,835 that if you understood the Walker shooting, 1799 01:19:29,918 --> 01:19:33,960 you understood that Lee was like a cocked rifle, 1800 01:19:34,126 --> 01:19:36,168 and he could go off any time. 1801 01:19:56,543 --> 01:19:58,251 What set the conspiracy notion 1802 01:19:58,335 --> 01:19:59,876 about the Kennedy Assassination 1803 01:19:59,960 --> 01:20:01,668 among many Americans, was the sheer 1804 01:20:01,751 --> 01:20:04,168 incongruity of the affair. 1805 01:20:04,251 --> 01:20:06,126 All that power and majesty wiped out 1806 01:20:06,210 --> 01:20:10,001 in an instant by one skinny, weak-chinned little character. 1807 01:20:29,168 --> 01:20:30,876 Walter Cronkite: It is true that the answers 1808 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,251 to some questions leave us restless. 1809 01:20:33,085 --> 01:20:34,626 The theory that a single bullet 1810 01:20:34,710 --> 01:20:36,751 struck down both the President and the Governor, 1811 01:20:36,835 --> 01:20:39,168 for example, has too much of the long arm 1812 01:20:39,251 --> 01:20:40,793 of coincidence about it 1813 01:20:40,876 --> 01:20:42,793 for us to be entirely comfortable. 1814 01:20:44,251 --> 01:20:45,335 Jim Newton: It doesn't satisfy 1815 01:20:45,418 --> 01:20:48,168 our sense of narrative or justice 1816 01:20:48,251 --> 01:20:50,793 that a small person of no distinction 1817 01:20:50,876 --> 01:20:53,168 can be of such historical consequences 1818 01:20:53,251 --> 01:20:54,835 to kill the President of the United States. 1819 01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:57,876 But what would be more comfortable? 1820 01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,335 Believing that a shot was fired 1821 01:20:59,418 --> 01:21:01,251 by a second assassin who 1822 01:21:01,335 --> 01:21:04,043 materialized out of thin air for the purpose, 1823 01:21:04,126 --> 01:21:08,210 fired a shot, and then vanished again into thin air, 1824 01:21:08,043 --> 01:21:10,168 leaving behind no trace of himself, 1825 01:21:10,751 --> 01:21:14,168 his rifle, his bullet or any other sign of existence. 1826 01:21:15,376 --> 01:21:17,835 There are two groups of people. 1827 01:21:17,918 --> 01:21:19,251 There's one group 1828 01:21:19,335 --> 01:21:21,918 that will look at an extraordinary coincidence 1829 01:21:22,001 --> 01:21:24,960 of cataclysmic circumstance and say, 1830 01:21:25,043 --> 01:21:26,876 "Yes, that's the way the world works." 1831 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,126 There's another group of people 1832 01:21:28,210 --> 01:21:30,043 for whom that's quite unsettling. 1833 01:21:30,376 --> 01:21:31,960 Robert Dallek: They don't want to believe 1834 01:21:32,043 --> 01:21:35,960 that something so random could have occurred. 1835 01:21:36,043 --> 01:21:37,960 Can you believe that you could step off 1836 01:21:38,043 --> 01:21:41,085 a curb someday and be killed by an oncoming car? 1837 01:21:42,376 --> 01:21:45,168 Nobody believes in that kind of possibility 1838 01:21:45,043 --> 01:21:46,876 for themselves, but it happens. 1839 01:21:47,501 --> 01:21:50,751 Is life that fortuitous, that uncertain? 1840 01:21:51,751 --> 01:21:55,126 And for them, oddly, the notion of a conspiracy 1841 01:21:55,210 --> 01:21:58,251 is more comforting than the absence of it, 1842 01:21:58,085 --> 01:22:00,085 because if there's a conspiracy, 1843 01:22:00,168 --> 01:22:01,876 at least there's a plan. 1844 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,376 Mark Lane: I think the five bullets 1845 01:22:04,460 --> 01:22:06,585 fired from at least two different directions, 1846 01:22:06,668 --> 01:22:08,251 are the result of a conspiracy. 1847 01:22:08,751 --> 01:22:10,543 Kennedy's killing 1848 01:22:10,626 --> 01:22:13,001 touches off a belief in the idea... 1849 01:22:14,043 --> 01:22:15,585 ...you can't trust government. 1850 01:22:15,668 --> 01:22:18,001 There has been a loss of morale, 1851 01:22:18,085 --> 01:22:20,585 a loss of confidence among the American people 1852 01:22:20,668 --> 01:22:23,168 toward their own government and the men who serve it. 1853 01:22:23,251 --> 01:22:24,918 And that is, perhaps, 1854 01:22:25,001 --> 01:22:26,918 more wounding than the assassination itself. 1855 01:22:28,001 --> 01:22:29,335 Bugliosi: They've lost so much faith 1856 01:22:29,418 --> 01:22:31,501 in government that they actually 1857 01:22:31,585 --> 01:22:35,335 think that the government is an accessory after the fact, 1858 01:22:35,418 --> 01:22:37,001 to the President's murder. 1859 01:22:37,085 --> 01:22:38,668 Can't get too much worse than that. 1860 01:22:40,251 --> 01:22:44,876 The assassination changed the trajectory of the '60s. 1861 01:22:47,668 --> 01:22:49,918 America was a different place 1862 01:22:50,001 --> 01:22:53,085 on the day before John F. Kennedy was killed. 1863 01:22:53,168 --> 01:22:55,210 So when you look at this, 1864 01:22:55,293 --> 01:22:58,043 America as a whole in the 20th Century, 1865 01:22:58,126 --> 01:23:01,418 you look at America in the '60s, 1866 01:23:01,501 --> 01:23:05,418 you really say, that day was the dividing point. 1867 01:23:09,043 --> 01:23:11,168 I guess in the average man's life 1868 01:23:11,251 --> 01:23:14,418 there are two or three emotional experiences that he, 1869 01:23:14,501 --> 01:23:17,085 he doesn't forget because they're burned into his, 1870 01:23:17,168 --> 01:23:18,751 his heart and his brain. 1871 01:23:19,418 --> 01:23:21,210 And no matter what happens to me, 1872 01:23:21,043 --> 01:23:24,251 I'll remember November 22 as long as I live. 1873 01:23:25,126 --> 01:23:26,876 And it's impossible for me now 1874 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,085 to this day, and I'm sure 1875 01:23:29,168 --> 01:23:31,501 ten years from now to drive to Dallas 1876 01:23:31,585 --> 01:23:33,210 without looking at the 6th floor of the 1877 01:23:33,043 --> 01:23:35,043 School Book Depository Building. 1878 01:23:35,876 --> 01:23:37,918 And it's impossible for me to drive 1879 01:23:38,001 --> 01:23:39,376 by the Texas Hotel every day 1880 01:23:39,460 --> 01:23:41,210 and not think of that morning 1881 01:23:41,043 --> 01:23:42,918 when President Kennedy spoke there. 1882 01:23:43,001 --> 01:23:44,585 It will always be with us. 1883 01:23:45,835 --> 01:23:48,918 Kennedy, alongside of the other presidents, 1884 01:23:49,001 --> 01:23:51,793 Johnson, Nixon, Gerald Ford, 1885 01:23:52,543 --> 01:23:55,168 Jimmy Carter, Reagan, 1886 01:23:55,251 --> 01:23:58,335 the two Bushes, even Bill Clinton, 1887 01:23:58,418 --> 01:24:00,168 people, they don't remember what they did, 1888 01:24:00,251 --> 01:24:01,960 but they remember their rhetoric 1889 01:24:02,043 --> 01:24:03,626 and they remember the images. 1890 01:24:03,710 --> 01:24:05,293 John F. Kennedy: Ask not 1891 01:24:05,918 --> 01:24:08,335 what your country can do for you, 1892 01:24:08,418 --> 01:24:10,710 ask what you can do for your country. 1893 01:24:11,751 --> 01:24:14,210 This is what people wish for again, 1894 01:24:14,293 --> 01:24:16,043 in the government. 1895 01:24:16,126 --> 01:24:19,251 They want someone who inspires them, who gives them hope, 1896 01:24:19,085 --> 01:24:20,918 for whom they have a kind of admiration. 1897 01:24:23,251 --> 01:24:25,251 Kennedy's standing hold on the public, 1898 01:24:25,335 --> 01:24:27,626 I think, will only fade if and when 1899 01:24:27,710 --> 01:24:29,251 we get another president 1900 01:24:29,335 --> 01:24:31,501 about whom they feel the same way 1901 01:24:31,585 --> 01:24:34,710 as they currently feel about Kennedy. 146334

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