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We had the place pretty much on our own.
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Whatever was on top of the pile,
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somebody grabbed it and said,
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"let's do that for a while."
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It was a kind of music that made you feel
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that you were part
of something very, very special,
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and nobody else was a part of it.
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And back then it was hard to get to.
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A box of unknown, unfinished
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Dylan lyrics had shown up,
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and I thought the chance to collaborate
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with a 27-year-old Bob Dylan
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now with 50 years of hindsight
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was...
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Was interesting.
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It's like a once in a lifetime opportunity.
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The most influential music figure
of the 20th century
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wrote some lyrics in 1967
and they just sat there.
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You know, if this was in a movie,
you'd never believe it.
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This is like the big leagues, isn't it?
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This monster of a building
that we are gonna record in,
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its monstrous history.
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These monstrously
talented people, you know...
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I'm shit scared.
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The basement tapes
was just the coolest thing
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that I could've imagined getting a hold of.
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It's sort of like,
"I've stumbled upon a secret that wasn't...
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"That wasn't ever meant for me to hear."
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It's just, kind of,
one of those signposts for me
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that's like, "you can be yourself."
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You know, because that's what
the basement tapes is to me.
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It's like the sound of
my musical heroes being themselves.
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I mean, the basement tapes
are an inspiration.
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These are songs from that time, lyrically,
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that have sat undisturbed.
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And you can't imagine
that the writer would leave it in a drawer
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for 40 odd years, you know.
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You can't record everything you wrote,
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so it's understandable
that a lot of this stuff
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just fell by the wayside or...
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I don't even know
where it was kept all these years.
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I have never seen these lyrics
since the day they were written.
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Never seen them.
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- Is that what I think it is?
- Have a look.
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T bone called me in and told me
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that he had these unpublished Dylan lyrics
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from the time of the basement tapes.
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I said, "what? What are they like?"
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There is a lot of
archaeological evidence in here
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about what he was doing.
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I like the one with the drawings on them.
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- Yeah, there are a lot of those.
- Yeah.
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Look at the back of this.
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It's like cool to get this gift of, like,
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"here's some lyrics for your songs.
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"Well, Bob Dylan wrote them. No big deal."
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You know, it's like,
that about as awesome as it gets.
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Yeah.
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In a way,
I would have preferred to have opened them
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not having to then go
and help make a record around them.
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I would have preferred to have
just opened them, and just as a fan,
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because I opened them
and just got stressed.
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I was like, "how are we gonna
write songs for these?" You know.
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So, there's no tunes for any of these?
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- There's just poetry.
- No, no, just all the lyrics.
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You're gonna find two or three in here...
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You're gonna write...
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Because it's just...
Because it's gotta happen.
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There's some that may seem
exactly right for you instantly, you know?
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See this. What do you think
of this one here? Look.
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That's Spanish Mary.
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I'm an interpreter.
Even when I'm writing songs,
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I am just a vehicle for the story.
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Always.
Even if it's a completely original piece
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it's like, I'm writing it for a reason.
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It's for the story to get out,
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so what I try to do is go,
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"well, okay, what's
the song trying to say?"
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- It's pretty, isn't it? It's really pretty.
- It's really cool, yeah.
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My knowledge of Dylan is pretty surface,
and I kind of figured,
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instead of going and
doing a lot of research,
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like, everybody else in this project
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probably knows of this stuff
and has heard this stuff,
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maybe I could be a voice
that's coming from, kind of, left field.
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So what are the... I know that
there was a tape of something that they...
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That people, you know,
did in the basement, right?
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- Yeah, well...
- So that... what was that?
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Because when I hear
people talk about basement tapes, like,
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"it's the basement tapes."
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Well, he was the most visible star
in the world at the time,
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and hejust disappeared.
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How did I wind up in Woodstock?
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I don't know.
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It seems incredible
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that an artist of Dylan's stature
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and sheer commercial
importance at that point,
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could disappear from view.
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The pressures that he was under,
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the relentless touring...
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He was up for three
days, 72 hours straight.
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He finishes this enormous tour
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and he comes home and he has,
god knows how many dates lined up.
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Take that girl off our car, please.
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Could you please take her off the car?
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He realises he's got to get out of this
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and the motorcycle accident
provides him with that escape clause.
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After Bob Dylan's motorcycle accident
the rumours were out of hand.
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Of course there was all kinds of speculation
about whether he was a vegetable now.
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He's replaced by a body double.
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He's been completely disfigured.
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He was assassinated by the CIA.
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He's actually dead.
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Dylan had gone over to the Cubans.
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And was now in Castro's socialist paradise.
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What it allowed him to do was stop.
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That accident probably saved his life.
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I've heard that maybe he really didn't
have a big accident on the motorcycle.
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Dylan is just one mystery after another,
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and we'll never really know
what the basement tapes story was.
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All we know was that
this man wrote more songs in 1967
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than any other year of his career.
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I started going through this process
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of digging into all my piles
of old four-track tapes,
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so I just kind of started,
like, listening to these songs,
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and the vocal melodies...
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Just kind of started coming out.
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And then just trying
some things like strings,
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background vocals and stuff
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and then to, like,
trying out different harmonies,
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which will be fun
to hear the other people sing.
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You're experiencing the magic
of the monster clarity xd travel speaker.
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This whole thing can
turn into an endorsement.
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Do you start with, like, a phone and a guitar,
or do you start right off with this stuff?
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You mean, well, like for an idea
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often times I'll just get it on my phone.
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Just to sing it...
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Just to, you know,
capture it real quick so I don't forget it.
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I did it, like, on this thing,
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and so I'm sitting in the seat,
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like, making the track
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I haven't got any reading glasses.
I can't see any damn thing.
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And then I got in the aeroplane bathroom
and I just recorded it.
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Most of the ideas you have
come to you when you're alone.
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I'm sure they thought I'm some sort of,
you know, threat to the plane
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'cause I kept going
into the bathroom to sing,
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like a demo of one of
these songs, you know.
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See, it's kind of different,
so that's the beauty of it.
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And you did that in an aeroplane bathroom?
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Yeah.
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I feel like, now labels are what...
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You know, it's a
different thing with labels,
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like, I don't think a young
musician grows up dreaming of,
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signing that record
deal the way that I did.
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And definitely the people
before my generation did.
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But that was still a very real dream
when I was growing up, being like,
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"man, someday we're gonna sign
a record contract with a record label."
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And that dream in my head
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was always taking place at the capitol.
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It was always like envisioning myself
walking through those doors,
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and walking out, like, cheering.
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All right.
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- Hi.
- Capitol records, how can I help?
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- My name is Taylor goldsmith.
- Name's Taylor?
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I think I have a drive-on
thing or something.
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Yeah, it's spot number 10, behind number 9,
which is down there in the middle.
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Cool.
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It didn't even look like he checked.
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I just have a trustworthy face.
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Can't help it.
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Which tunes have you worked on?
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I don't really know.
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I'd got this... I actually...
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- Yesterday I did one for this one...
- Jeez.
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And I wrote, I...
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I sort of, in the spirit of...
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Actually, the...
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Just so... I don't...
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All of us are singing in the chorus.
Like, we all take turns
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- singing a different line and stuff.
- Nice, nice.
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I don't think anybody knew
what we were coming into,
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in terms of what to expect
this album to become.
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I thought we would all show each other
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our different versions of the same songs
with the same lyrics,
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and then we would all pick
certain versions to chase down.
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But I did this weird thing like a...
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Of course, you fucking did.
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I didn't want to just write
a bunch of stuff and force it on...
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I'm really excited about the collaboration.
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I'm really excited about
what Rhiannon and I could write together,
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or what, you know, fucking Elvis costello
and I could write, you know.
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I really want him to like what I do.
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And I'm really excited to hear
what he has to do.
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I love that guitar, man.
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This is a great guitar.
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This is the same kind
of guitar I wrote my first album on.
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- Is it, really? Cool.
- Yeah.
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So, you can't get them,
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because Jimmy page, I found out later,
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also played one on stainnay to heaven.
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So, every kid wants
one of these. You know...
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And I don't know how to play that,
othennise I'd demonstrate.
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How greatness sounds.
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I'm just trying to work
out what the term is.
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I didn't want to come along
and have nothing to offer,
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you know, I thought, I'm sure everybody
will write lots of great versions,
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but we should all have a few,
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and I think, you know,
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ones that I've really heard is up-tempo,
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couple of other people said
they are balanced.
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So, you know, obviously
there isn't just one way to do it.
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But I thought that was
all just curious, you know.
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Certain things reveal themselves
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about the way the words
unfolded on the page.
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Dude, so, I had a hard time, like,
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sometimes his inflection was implied,
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or his notes were implied,
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but sometimes it wasn't even that,
sometimes it was just straight up, like...
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- Like...
- Right.
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Yes, but I wonder
if "every one" had an intention,
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or if it was just words.
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- Yeah.
- Or didn't even have an intention.
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I wonder if we'll ever find out. Or not.
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How did the songs from
the basement tapes come about?
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Well, you know, I decided this...
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I was gonna stay up
in Woodstock for a while,
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so my band from
the tour we had done together.
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Those guys all just came on up there.
They liked it, too.
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And Robbie called me up one day
and said, "what's happening?"
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You know. "What's happening?"
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And I said, "nothing."
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He said... well, he was in the
mood for some nothing, too.
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We went up there
and we found this ugly pink house
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out in west saugerties,
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just in the outskirts of Woodstock.
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The rent was, like, $250 a month.
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And it sat in the middle of 100 acres,
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and it had a pond and mountains,
and a lot of privacy.
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And it had a basement.
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Typical basement, filled with pipes
and a concrete floor, washer, dryer.
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All of the things that you can't have
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if you're trying to record something.
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Dylan sees this and he says,
"this is fantastic!"
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And I thought, "well, the hell with it.
Nobody's ever gonna hear this thing."
244
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Who... was it Marx who said,
245
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you know, he talks so much
about the means of production,
246
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who controlled the means
of production, you know.
247
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This was the beginning of that.
248
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At this time, you gotta remember,
nobody was doing this.
249
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Back then, if you're gonna make a record,
250
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you went and made a record
where they make records.
251
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There is something about going
into somebody's studio
252
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that has a huge clock on the wall
253
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and the guys in the union, they're saying,
254
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"hey, it's about dinner break,"
and everything.
255
00:20:38,530 --> 00:20:43,118
As opposed to bringing
the recording experience to you.
256
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It reverberated throughout
the record industry.
257
00:20:45,453 --> 00:20:47,681
That's where you get the Beatles
recording in the basement,
258
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where they're all facing each other.
259
00:20:49,207 --> 00:20:51,167
They were trying to imitate
the basement tapes.
260
00:20:51,251 --> 00:20:53,044
And to this day, it resonates.
261
00:20:53,128 --> 00:20:56,548
That's recording formally
where the artist feels at home.
262
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Yeah.
263
00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:20,089
That was one that I thought...
264
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Well, I had those ideas
for verse and chorus,
265
00:21:22,157 --> 00:21:25,243
but then I also thought like,
maybe we could write it together
266
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'cause it feels a bit unfinished.
267
00:21:26,911 --> 00:21:28,551
You know, the chorus lyrics feel a bit...
268
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You know, when you do the...
269
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Yeah.
270
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You wanna try going to a g?
271
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You know, sort of go
to the g with a bit of...
272
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That's great, yeah.
273
00:21:46,890 --> 00:21:48,766
I love all of these musicians.
274
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Not all of them know each other,
275
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and they're trusting us
276
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to make a safe place
for them to have freedom.
277
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- All right.
- I like that a lot.
278
00:22:31,351 --> 00:22:32,852
- Sweet.
- Yeah.
279
00:22:32,936 --> 00:22:34,354
That's sweet, yeah.
280
00:22:34,437 --> 00:22:35,772
It's just kind of nice,
281
00:22:35,855 --> 00:22:37,148
it's conversational.
282
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It's like you're sort of...
283
00:22:39,067 --> 00:22:40,836
I love the fact that the
first two don't rhyme
284
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'cause you're just sort of, like...
285
00:22:42,445 --> 00:22:44,256
And then the rhyme comes in,
it just kind of like...
286
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,360
- Yeah, yeah.
- The whole...
287
00:22:45,532 --> 00:22:47,092
So, you swap some of the lyrics, right?
288
00:22:47,158 --> 00:22:48,201
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
289
00:22:48,284 --> 00:22:50,453
- Totally fucking around.
- Okay, great.
290
00:22:50,537 --> 00:22:52,664
What we've been given the licence to do
291
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is make songs out of these
292
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unfinished texts.
293
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Whether they were lyrics,
or sketches for lyrics,
294
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or games with words,
295
00:23:07,470 --> 00:23:09,013
or very clearly,
296
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you know, very
identifiable, perfect lyrics,
297
00:23:12,141 --> 00:23:15,144
and we have everything in that range.
298
00:23:15,228 --> 00:23:17,397
And we are being given a huge Liberty.
299
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,899
And the licence to do, make music with it.
300
00:23:32,495 --> 00:23:34,289
I think I feel slightly awkward about
301
00:23:34,372 --> 00:23:35,975
the second line of the chorus being like,
302
00:23:35,999 --> 00:23:38,126
"that woman she's funny
she takes all my money"
303
00:23:38,209 --> 00:23:39,752
I really think we should keep that in.
304
00:23:39,836 --> 00:23:41,421
- Do you?
- I mean, it's so truthful.
305
00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:43,464
That's so common
306
00:23:43,548 --> 00:23:45,317
- in the old blues songs, you know.
- Maybe, maybe.
307
00:23:45,341 --> 00:23:46,426
Yeah.
308
00:23:46,509 --> 00:23:48,303
This is a special opportunity
309
00:23:48,386 --> 00:23:51,806
to sort of have all this time
with other creative people,
310
00:23:51,889 --> 00:23:55,560
and, like, everybody's
bringing a very specific
311
00:23:55,643 --> 00:23:59,230
and defined idea
of what songwriting is to the table.
312
00:24:08,698 --> 00:24:09,991
We can all harmonise on that.
313
00:24:11,868 --> 00:24:13,411
The next section is all on...
314
00:24:17,707 --> 00:24:18,833
It's just c.
315
00:24:19,584 --> 00:24:20,793
C, a, d.
316
00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:24,047
And then it goes...
Then I can throw things in.
317
00:24:33,681 --> 00:24:35,058
And that's after the...
318
00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:36,851
- Just staying on the kerb?
- Yeah.
319
00:24:36,976 --> 00:24:38,936
After "on the lawn," it goes back to...
320
00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:41,147
- It goes back to the top. Yeah, that is...
- Okay.
321
00:24:41,230 --> 00:24:43,650
Oh, god. It's crazy being in Elvis's band.
322
00:24:43,733 --> 00:24:46,694
Their songs are hilarious
'cause there's so many chords in them
323
00:24:46,778 --> 00:24:48,112
and you know, and I...
324
00:24:48,196 --> 00:24:50,215
Songs that I write
usually don't have that many chords in them
325
00:24:50,239 --> 00:24:53,034
and there's like 47
chords and you're like...
326
00:24:53,117 --> 00:24:54,720
You know, trying to figure out
all these things.
327
00:24:54,744 --> 00:24:57,205
- What's the chord of the...
- F sharp.
328
00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:02,543
I've forgotten my dank bomb chord.
329
00:25:04,796 --> 00:25:05,880
What was it? What is it?
330
00:25:05,963 --> 00:25:08,424
He's calling this...
331
00:25:08,508 --> 00:25:09,676
And he wrote it down.
332
00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:12,159
Because I don't know,
like, the notes, or anything like that.
333
00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:14,430
Dank bomb. Dank bomb.
334
00:25:14,514 --> 00:25:16,557
And I love t bone's swagger,
335
00:25:16,641 --> 00:25:19,936
because he's like, "yeah, we'll just
smash it out in two weeks, it'll be fine."
336
00:25:20,019 --> 00:25:21,747
And I'm like,
"I've never made anything in two weeks.
337
00:25:21,771 --> 00:25:24,524
"Let alone a full record
with people who we haven't played...
338
00:25:24,607 --> 00:25:26,407
"You know, we haven't
played together before."
339
00:25:27,318 --> 00:25:28,778
Yeah, that's f sharp.
340
00:25:29,946 --> 00:25:33,658
How could we possibly not be a band
and then all of a sudden be a band,
341
00:25:33,741 --> 00:25:35,427
and not only that
but make a record in two weeks,
342
00:25:35,451 --> 00:25:36,452
it's just not...
343
00:25:36,536 --> 00:25:37,870
That's not how this happens.
344
00:25:37,954 --> 00:25:39,789
That's not how music works,
we can't do that.
345
00:25:40,498 --> 00:25:42,291
What's that? A, a flat, g.
346
00:25:42,375 --> 00:25:44,085
G, a... back to a again.
347
00:25:44,585 --> 00:25:46,587
And then it does that weird...
348
00:25:47,296 --> 00:25:48,423
All right, so let's start
349
00:25:48,506 --> 00:25:49,906
- with the dank bomb.
- Sorry, guys.
350
00:25:49,966 --> 00:25:52,277
Just one more thing,
what is this sequence that happens here?
351
00:25:52,301 --> 00:25:54,470
- That's not a c7. That's a g.
- A g. Okay.
352
00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:58,976
- All right.
- I'm not a musician, I'm a drummer.
353
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,140
- Here we go again.
- So, where does dank bomb come?
354
00:26:02,687 --> 00:26:04,355
All right, let's try this one.
355
00:26:05,356 --> 00:26:07,859
We were just kind of, like,
sitting around recording songs
356
00:26:07,942 --> 00:26:10,778
and before we went down into the basement
357
00:26:10,862 --> 00:26:12,697
to put it on tape.
358
00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:16,242
They are bumping their way
through a song that they don't know
359
00:26:16,325 --> 00:26:19,328
or that doesn't really even exist
until they are playing it for you.
360
00:26:36,262 --> 00:26:39,307
Dylan's written this song,
except he hasn't really written it.
361
00:26:39,390 --> 00:26:43,186
And they just say, "well, to hell with it.
We'll fill in the lines as we go."
362
00:26:47,023 --> 00:26:48,733
You know, you ain't goin' nowhere.
363
00:26:48,816 --> 00:26:51,486
They don't stick with
the "head of lettuce" version.
364
00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:56,407
There is a great reward
in experimenting in that kind of way.
365
00:26:56,491 --> 00:27:00,369
But you thought, "I could try anything."
366
00:27:00,453 --> 00:27:02,205
And it takes shape.
367
00:27:02,288 --> 00:27:05,458
You feel like, "I really like this."
368
00:27:38,324 --> 00:27:40,159
It was like, one song after another,
369
00:27:40,243 --> 00:27:42,328
you know, seldom make any changes.
370
00:27:42,411 --> 00:27:46,332
This is taking place
in an atmosphere of intimacy,
371
00:27:46,415 --> 00:27:49,043
passion, fooling around.
372
00:27:49,126 --> 00:27:50,837
No one's ever gonna hear this stuff,
373
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,381
so it doesn't matter
how badly we fuck it up,
374
00:27:53,464 --> 00:27:55,299
we can't fuck it up.
375
00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:16,028
To me, the most important part of this,
376
00:28:16,112 --> 00:28:18,406
and I think every one
of the musicians has said this, too,
377
00:28:18,489 --> 00:28:21,534
is that we remain true to the spirit
of the original basement tapes.
378
00:28:21,617 --> 00:28:24,537
Which is not that we are making
some classic masterpiece,
379
00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:25,705
or something like that,
380
00:28:25,788 --> 00:28:28,416
even though they did that,
they didn't set out to do that.
381
00:28:32,295 --> 00:28:33,629
You wanna try it?
382
00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:35,756
Yeah, let's just start recording,
383
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,776
and we'll just fuck around
with it till we get it, all right?
384
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,219
Let's just do a whole one. Be free. Yes.
385
00:28:40,303 --> 00:28:41,888
Can we just do a verse once real quick
386
00:28:41,971 --> 00:28:43,180
so the, how could you...
387
00:28:43,264 --> 00:28:44,640
Do you mean a verse, or a...
388
00:28:44,765 --> 00:28:46,726
I mean, how could she reject me?
389
00:28:47,268 --> 00:28:48,728
Let's just see what happens.
390
00:28:48,811 --> 00:28:51,188
Yeah, we'll just do
it straight through 140, okay?
391
00:28:51,272 --> 00:28:52,607
You ready?
392
00:28:52,690 --> 00:28:54,330
- 140, we're looking for 140, guys.
- 140.
393
00:28:56,611 --> 00:28:58,654
- Record time.
- One, two, three.
394
00:29:22,219 --> 00:29:24,722
The basement tapes for me,
I guess was a realisation that
395
00:29:24,805 --> 00:29:27,224
people can be funny with their music or...
396
00:29:27,308 --> 00:29:28,851
And not take themselves too seriously.
397
00:30:10,977 --> 00:30:14,563
The fun of this for me,
it was just how fast everything happens
398
00:30:14,647 --> 00:30:18,567
and quick and you're just barely
learning the song and it's done. That's it.
399
00:30:21,821 --> 00:30:23,781
- Good job, guys.
- Flawless.
400
00:30:25,533 --> 00:30:27,368
Zero mistakes.
401
00:30:28,536 --> 00:30:29,704
One take only, gents.
402
00:30:29,787 --> 00:30:31,872
Yeah, I mean, you know, let's restrict,
403
00:30:31,956 --> 00:30:33,541
or give ourselves restrictions.
404
00:30:34,583 --> 00:30:35,918
Until it goes wrong.
405
00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:39,005
I was enjoying it too much.
406
00:30:40,589 --> 00:30:42,526
As I listen to all these notes,
it's so fucking cool
407
00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:44,802
'cause it is like the
spirit of the originals...
408
00:30:44,885 --> 00:30:46,846
- Yeah.
- But it's like you hear all the time,
409
00:30:46,929 --> 00:30:49,181
somebody's like,
"and here we go. Fuck, no, we don't!"
410
00:30:51,017 --> 00:30:54,645
And here comes the chorus, and you're like,
"okay, here we all go." It's like...
411
00:30:54,729 --> 00:30:57,356
I came back off that really intense tour,
412
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,193
and it was, I think it was
a huge relief to get it together and write.
413
00:31:01,277 --> 00:31:02,445
And,
414
00:31:02,778 --> 00:31:06,449
in a very different way, I think
it's a relief for us all to be here,
415
00:31:06,532 --> 00:31:08,868
and be able to write together
and play together and...
416
00:31:09,452 --> 00:31:11,495
So I think, they
probably really enjoyed it,
417
00:31:11,579 --> 00:31:15,583
so I think the central notion
is that we gotta try and enjoy it somehow.
418
00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:19,879
- How boisterous are you boys gonna be?
- Pretty boisterous.
419
00:31:19,962 --> 00:31:21,213
One, two, three!
420
00:31:58,375 --> 00:31:59,376
It's ham.
421
00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:00,540
- Ham?
- Is that what it is?
422
00:32:00,586 --> 00:32:01,629
- It's ham.
- Really?
423
00:32:01,712 --> 00:32:03,432
- It's ham, okay. Let's do it again.
- Yeah.
424
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:05,883
What the fuck is going on?
425
00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:08,028
Should we just do that one?
We didn't get the word right.
426
00:32:08,052 --> 00:32:10,054
- Is that okay?
- Does that matter, really?
427
00:32:11,388 --> 00:32:12,932
Okay, good. Cool.
428
00:32:13,015 --> 00:32:15,559
This is exactly the
thing we were looking for.
429
00:32:15,643 --> 00:32:16,727
All right.
430
00:32:17,311 --> 00:32:19,855
But it was enthusiastically
not the right word.
431
00:32:22,566 --> 00:32:25,945
T bone has such a graceful
way of motivating people.
432
00:32:26,028 --> 00:32:29,115
He's been so good
at keeping all of us smiling,
433
00:32:29,198 --> 00:32:30,991
all of us laughing,
434
00:32:31,075 --> 00:32:32,618
and all of us proud and inspired.
435
00:32:33,410 --> 00:32:35,496
T bone, he's like a master musician.
436
00:32:35,579 --> 00:32:39,083
Who else could make sense
of all these scraps of paper?
437
00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:41,836
He knows song writing.
He knows performing.
438
00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:46,173
No part of making music that
t bone's not familiar with and experienced,
439
00:32:46,257 --> 00:32:49,760
and he knows performers
that can perform all types of music,
440
00:32:55,349 --> 00:32:58,102
I like to think of it
as each member of this band
441
00:32:58,185 --> 00:32:59,385
bringing a different strength,
442
00:32:59,436 --> 00:33:01,996
a different quality that you're
not gonna find in the other four.
443
00:33:03,399 --> 00:33:06,068
Marcus mumford, he won album of the year,
444
00:33:06,152 --> 00:33:08,654
he plays these huge stadiums.
445
00:33:08,737 --> 00:33:12,283
The power that he has
in connection to what resonates with people
446
00:33:12,366 --> 00:33:14,577
is pretty unmatched.
447
00:33:32,887 --> 00:33:34,972
With her background in more of a bluegrass,
448
00:33:35,055 --> 00:33:37,558
or more of a traditional folk world,
449
00:33:37,641 --> 00:33:40,519
that's going to set
Rhiannon's songs apart in a big way,
450
00:33:40,603 --> 00:33:42,688
and also the way
Rhiannon sings is something
451
00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:45,149
that few people on earth can do.
452
00:34:21,185 --> 00:34:23,520
A guy like Jim James,
I feel like he's not afraid
453
00:34:23,604 --> 00:34:26,398
to work up a soundscape
454
00:34:26,482 --> 00:34:28,651
to make sure it's always weird enough.
455
00:34:33,489 --> 00:34:36,367
Not only has Jim done that
within my morning jacket,
456
00:34:36,450 --> 00:34:38,953
but he also has a lot
of cool solo releases.
457
00:34:39,036 --> 00:34:41,664
Really, every time
he's involved with something
458
00:34:41,747 --> 00:34:43,624
it always ends up being very special.
459
00:34:49,255 --> 00:34:50,547
And then Elvis costello
460
00:34:50,631 --> 00:34:54,093
who's one of the most
accomplished songwriters of all time.
461
00:34:54,176 --> 00:34:55,570
He's truly one of the heavyweights.
462
00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:59,390
I feel like few guys
have had such lasting careers.
463
00:35:00,015 --> 00:35:03,978
Having them in a situation like this,
I feel like it's gonna be essential.
464
00:35:05,271 --> 00:35:09,233
It's so fun to see how different
each of our song writing styles are.
465
00:35:09,316 --> 00:35:12,611
And it's like being inside
of a rainbow or something.
466
00:35:12,695 --> 00:35:15,030
Seeing all the... how it works.
467
00:35:15,114 --> 00:35:16,714
You know, it's like seeing the magician.
468
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:19,576
How does the magician
really pull the rabbit out of the hat?
469
00:35:19,827 --> 00:35:22,079
There are three or four
great songs people have written.
470
00:35:22,162 --> 00:35:23,932
You know, three or four people
who've written versions.
471
00:35:23,956 --> 00:35:26,000
- Right.
- But what I wanna do is like this.
472
00:35:26,083 --> 00:35:27,501
We can do two or three versions
473
00:35:27,584 --> 00:35:30,629
'cause there's some of them I
wanna do two or three versions of...
474
00:35:30,713 --> 00:35:33,882
I haven't listened extensively
'cause I wanted to
475
00:35:33,966 --> 00:35:37,219
approach it very much like they
did in the first place which is...
476
00:35:38,220 --> 00:35:39,305
I wanna just come in
477
00:35:39,388 --> 00:35:41,515
- without a lot of preconceived ideas.
- Yeah.
478
00:35:42,558 --> 00:35:45,894
I used to try to make everything my idea.
I used to arrange everything.
479
00:35:45,978 --> 00:35:48,063
You know, every note, every drum note.
480
00:35:49,064 --> 00:35:52,026
This will be the complete
opposite of that, right?
481
00:35:52,860 --> 00:35:56,780
The fun of it is seeing
how two people interpret the same lyric.
482
00:35:56,864 --> 00:35:58,198
And what choices they make.
483
00:35:58,282 --> 00:36:01,702
One, two... one, two, three.
484
00:36:48,582 --> 00:36:50,125
We were all given the same lyrics
485
00:36:50,209 --> 00:36:53,379
and we all heard such different things
from those lyrics.
486
00:36:53,462 --> 00:36:56,465
And now that we've been talking about,
like, what is the notion of a song?
487
00:36:56,548 --> 00:36:57,549
What is a song?
488
00:36:57,633 --> 00:36:59,301
The infinite possibility of a song.
489
00:36:59,385 --> 00:37:01,804
I mean, a song is limitless.
490
00:39:15,479 --> 00:39:16,688
Nice one.
491
00:39:16,772 --> 00:39:18,666
We'd definitely get lost in that thing,
in the ups and downs.
492
00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:21,318
- You'd probably get lost in the river.
- Yeah.
493
00:39:21,401 --> 00:39:23,737
That was for sure lost.
No doubt about that.
494
00:39:26,156 --> 00:39:28,742
Yeah, well, 'cause I was like,
"I'm playing over a g-chord.
495
00:39:28,825 --> 00:39:30,428
"No, I'm actually probably
playing over a d-chord."
496
00:39:30,452 --> 00:39:32,579
So I start sounding like shit because...
497
00:39:32,663 --> 00:39:34,289
What'd you think? Should we...
498
00:39:34,373 --> 00:39:35,999
Let's just out another ending.
499
00:39:36,625 --> 00:39:37,751
Some songs work great
500
00:39:37,834 --> 00:39:42,005
if everybody's messy
and it's all a big pile of chaos.
501
00:39:42,089 --> 00:39:44,633
And other songs, just don't work that way.
502
00:39:44,716 --> 00:39:48,762
And they deserve to be whittled
on or carved out a little bit more.
503
00:39:48,845 --> 00:39:52,849
When you're messing with eternity,
it's really tempting to go fix everything.
504
00:39:52,933 --> 00:39:54,893
You know, and to make everything perfect.
505
00:39:54,977 --> 00:39:56,019
So when,
506
00:39:56,103 --> 00:39:59,648
when the main parts of the song are going,
it'd be great if it was moving more, you know.
507
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,486
But on the little Bridges it'd be cool
if you guys were kinda circling.
508
00:40:04,570 --> 00:40:06,530
- Okay, yeah, yeah.
- Circling with no emotion
509
00:40:06,613 --> 00:40:07,823
and when the song takes off...
510
00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:09,116
You mean this? F-sharp.
511
00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:16,582
Yeah, yeah.
512
00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:19,167
So maybe just a little faster still.
513
00:40:20,335 --> 00:40:21,503
Just a little faster.
514
00:40:25,882 --> 00:40:29,052
Maybe a couple more snares, like a...
Boom, crack, boom.
515
00:40:29,136 --> 00:40:31,805
Crack, crack, boom, crack, boom, crack...
516
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,915
Yeah, if you could sing the third line
517
00:40:58,999 --> 00:41:01,126
- in unison with me, maybe?
- Sure.
518
00:41:01,209 --> 00:41:03,378
'Cause I go up kinda high,
but I can't really hit it.
519
00:41:03,462 --> 00:41:04,504
Yeah, you can.
520
00:41:04,588 --> 00:41:07,633
Could you also sing
the normal lines with me just in unison,
521
00:41:07,716 --> 00:41:09,468
when you're not singing the Harmony?
522
00:41:12,054 --> 00:41:13,347
Just sing it in unison.
523
00:41:15,265 --> 00:41:16,993
- Is this all right?
- Yeah, think it's good. Yeah.
524
00:41:17,017 --> 00:41:18,769
- It's nice.
- You can say if you don't.
525
00:41:18,852 --> 00:41:21,229
No, I would. Well, I'll mute it anyway.
526
00:41:22,022 --> 00:41:23,231
No, I like it.
527
00:41:27,444 --> 00:41:28,487
Goddamn.
528
00:41:29,821 --> 00:41:32,366
- What is that buzz?
- Your guitar.
529
00:41:32,449 --> 00:41:34,159
- Me? What an asshole.
- Yeah.
530
00:41:35,369 --> 00:41:36,495
Okay, let's go.
531
00:41:37,371 --> 00:41:38,455
- You on?
- Yeah.
532
00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:40,290
One, two.
533
00:43:03,165 --> 00:43:05,017
I knew there were some
things that were prepared
534
00:43:05,041 --> 00:43:08,253
but I was unprepared
for the amount of preparedness
535
00:43:08,336 --> 00:43:12,174
that like Taylor and Elvis and Jim did.
536
00:43:44,706 --> 00:43:47,167
I didn't know if people
were gonna have written
537
00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:48,668
six, seven, eight, 10 songs.
538
00:43:48,752 --> 00:43:50,462
I was kinda like, "whoa."
539
00:43:50,545 --> 00:43:53,548
This is... I was a little
taken aback by that.
540
00:44:23,745 --> 00:44:25,330
I'm a baby songwriter.
541
00:44:25,413 --> 00:44:27,499
I'm really looking foward
to just learning a lot.
542
00:44:27,582 --> 00:44:30,710
Like, just sort of, bringing a novice view
543
00:44:30,794 --> 00:44:32,730
because I've written a few.
You know, I've written some songs
544
00:44:32,754 --> 00:44:34,565
but like compared to,
you know, some of these guys,
545
00:44:34,589 --> 00:44:36,069
I haven't really written a whole lot.
546
00:44:58,405 --> 00:45:00,782
So I was thinking of putting
that in the middle, you know?
547
00:45:00,866 --> 00:45:02,951
Sort of just transitioning to this,
548
00:45:03,034 --> 00:45:06,121
and then transitioning back to
the, you know, as it is in the lyrics.
549
00:45:07,122 --> 00:45:08,874
That's one of the best lyrics
550
00:45:08,957 --> 00:45:09,976
- in the whole pile.
- Yeah.
551
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,376
Yeah, I'm sure...
552
00:45:11,459 --> 00:45:13,628
I didn't write...
Did you write something for it?
553
00:45:13,712 --> 00:45:15,672
- I did, yeah.
- It's such a great song.
554
00:45:18,258 --> 00:45:19,694
- Yeah.
- Just so we can find another groove.
555
00:45:19,718 --> 00:45:22,137
What kind of arrangement
do you have for it?
556
00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:24,389
Just, I mean,
557
00:45:25,807 --> 00:45:27,767
kinda going, just going...
558
00:45:27,851 --> 00:45:30,729
Figuring out which verses to,
sort of, do together,
559
00:45:30,812 --> 00:45:32,522
and then transitioning to that.
560
00:45:32,606 --> 00:45:34,232
Just sort of this...
561
00:45:34,316 --> 00:45:37,360
You know, not really a...
This kinda thing, but just kinda like...
562
00:45:37,444 --> 00:45:40,071
You know, but that's where I'm coming from.
563
00:45:40,155 --> 00:45:41,489
And instrumentation?
564
00:45:42,616 --> 00:45:44,618
What if you played it
like that by yourself,
565
00:45:44,701 --> 00:45:47,245
and we all gathered around
a microphone, just one microphone
566
00:45:47,329 --> 00:45:48,747
and didn't do anything at all.
567
00:45:51,333 --> 00:45:53,418
And you got the sound of that.
Like, that was...
568
00:45:54,669 --> 00:45:57,505
Like you just got our breath, listening.
569
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,175
That'd be pretty cool.
570
00:47:34,769 --> 00:47:36,187
When I heard about the project
571
00:47:36,271 --> 00:47:39,315
and the idea of these folks
going in and just gonna...
572
00:47:39,399 --> 00:47:40,543
You know, and to see what happens.
573
00:47:40,567 --> 00:47:42,407
There's a lot of magic
that can happen in that.
574
00:47:43,069 --> 00:47:46,698
That's one of the reasons why
I didn't do a lot of preparatory stuff.
575
00:47:46,781 --> 00:47:49,242
That idea of what's happening right now
576
00:47:49,325 --> 00:47:52,120
you know, that's what attracted me,
577
00:47:52,203 --> 00:47:55,331
you know, more than anything
to the project, was that idea.
578
00:48:10,847 --> 00:48:12,307
Nice one.
579
00:48:12,932 --> 00:48:15,977
I mean, if... I'm very hyper sensitive
580
00:48:16,061 --> 00:48:17,821
to any kind of out of
tune-ness in my voice,
581
00:48:17,854 --> 00:48:20,940
but, it's not always noticeable to...
582
00:48:21,024 --> 00:48:23,985
Some of the... 'Cause my voice
is always out of tune and your...
583
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:27,363
Some of the times you went out of tune,
it almost sounded intentional.
584
00:48:27,447 --> 00:48:30,051
It almost sounded like you were
doing some kind of fucked up improv.
585
00:48:30,075 --> 00:48:31,743
Yeah, the key there is almost, though.
586
00:48:32,869 --> 00:48:35,705
Yeah, well,
now it sounded definitely intentional.
587
00:48:36,122 --> 00:48:40,752
Certainly, self-consciousness ends
the creative process, you know?
588
00:48:40,835 --> 00:48:44,798
My job is to not let people
get self-conscious in the first place.
589
00:48:44,881 --> 00:48:48,927
And not feel like
someone else is gonna take it away
590
00:48:49,010 --> 00:48:53,098
or try to, you know, try
to get ahead of them.
591
00:48:53,556 --> 00:48:56,184
And that's a beautiful thing
about collaborating.
592
00:49:24,212 --> 00:49:27,966
When I was preparing,
I was just going as far out as I could.
593
00:49:28,049 --> 00:49:31,594
It was like, "okay, I have to have as
much stuff prepared as I can."
594
00:49:31,678 --> 00:49:34,180
I sort of, feel like,
I just... I gotta come correct
595
00:49:34,264 --> 00:49:35,807
because I'm lucky to be in the room.
596
00:49:35,890 --> 00:49:39,269
We're all lucky to be in the room.
But I'm especially lucky to be in the room.
597
00:50:02,083 --> 00:50:04,544
I'm aware of the fact that...
598
00:50:04,627 --> 00:50:06,438
You know, like even
in a lot of the press stuff about it,
599
00:50:06,462 --> 00:50:11,009
it's like, "Elvis costello,
Marcus mumford, Jim James, t bone Burnett,
600
00:50:11,092 --> 00:50:13,761
"and this guy from this band dawes in it."
601
00:50:13,845 --> 00:50:15,096
Like it's... and I get it.
602
00:50:19,851 --> 00:50:23,271
I realise that that's how this shit works.
And that's okay.
603
00:50:23,354 --> 00:50:27,650
But obviously, as anyone could imagine that
does create a certain level of pressure.
604
00:51:31,339 --> 00:51:33,341
- G... g-minor.
- All right.
605
00:51:33,675 --> 00:51:36,803
The essence of
the basement tapes to me, is collaborative.
606
00:51:36,886 --> 00:51:39,806
I was under the impression
that's how this was gonna work.
607
00:51:39,889 --> 00:51:42,475
But then I've heard
people have been secretly scribbling away.
608
00:51:43,184 --> 00:51:45,019
Writing mega hits.
609
00:52:28,521 --> 00:52:30,440
It's been a big challenge to keep writing.
610
00:52:30,940 --> 00:52:33,651
'Cause I'm not like Jim
or Elvis who came in, or Taylor
611
00:52:33,735 --> 00:52:37,989
who came in with pretty much
20 fully formed demos.
612
00:52:38,072 --> 00:52:42,035
I came in with one song and one riff.
613
00:52:43,661 --> 00:52:47,957
And so I'm falling behind a bit in terms of
how many songs I've done, I think.
614
00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:08,019
It's almost like a game.
615
00:53:08,102 --> 00:53:11,105
It's almost like he passed the hat around
and everyone has to write a song.
616
00:53:11,189 --> 00:53:13,733
I've never written like that before.
617
00:53:13,816 --> 00:53:15,693
I mean for me,
things come quite sporadically.
618
00:53:15,777 --> 00:53:17,820
So I write a song every six months
619
00:53:17,904 --> 00:53:20,865
rather than having to write,
like, a song a day.
620
00:54:29,851 --> 00:54:32,186
I'm really interested in
the collaborative process.
621
00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:34,498
What it would be like
to just kinda work with other people
622
00:54:34,522 --> 00:54:36,691
and say, you know, "hey, let's just...
623
00:54:36,774 --> 00:54:39,002
"You and me, just take this
and just like make something."
624
00:54:39,026 --> 00:54:41,446
You know, I think there's
a lot of potential in that.
625
00:54:41,529 --> 00:54:44,490
It's just a matter of
how it's gonna happen.
626
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:50,872
Well, sometime, maybe later,
627
00:54:50,955 --> 00:54:53,624
I've got a chorus and no song.
628
00:54:53,708 --> 00:54:54,709
Oh, sick.
629
00:54:54,792 --> 00:54:56,794
So, you know,
I would love some help with that.
630
00:54:56,878 --> 00:54:58,838
- Hell, yeah.
- What key is it? Do you know?
631
00:54:58,921 --> 00:55:00,923
- Let me see.
- Do you play it on the guitar?
632
00:55:01,632 --> 00:55:05,803
No, I just...
Say, I did a chord progression vocally
633
00:55:05,887 --> 00:55:08,389
- and then put the line on top.
- Sweet. Let's do it.
634
00:55:08,806 --> 00:55:10,349
Yeah, it just goes...
635
00:55:32,914 --> 00:55:34,248
- Well, that's it.
- Cool.
636
00:55:34,832 --> 00:55:37,001
Yeah, try to sing it over there. Sing it.
637
00:56:16,290 --> 00:56:20,711
Well, you know,
if we do 23 more songs, we hit 50, right?
638
00:56:20,795 --> 00:56:22,046
- Really?
- Yeah.
639
00:56:22,129 --> 00:56:24,215
We've done 27. We've done 27.
640
00:56:24,298 --> 00:56:25,758
- Is that right?
- Yeah.
641
00:56:30,972 --> 00:56:33,432
We've got a few where
we have already three,
642
00:56:33,516 --> 00:56:35,226
if not four versions, potentially.
643
00:56:35,309 --> 00:56:37,895
If we had endless amounts of time,
we'd probably record them all,
644
00:56:37,979 --> 00:56:42,400
but we are sort of rapidly having
to come to some sort of agreement.
645
00:56:42,483 --> 00:56:45,111
Certain takes on songs might not be heard
646
00:56:45,194 --> 00:56:47,071
during these sessions, you know?
647
00:56:47,154 --> 00:56:48,489
Lost on the river, of course,
648
00:56:48,573 --> 00:56:51,909
has brought out
lots of different types of songs.
649
00:57:00,376 --> 00:57:01,586
Yeah!
650
00:57:04,088 --> 00:57:05,423
And then a b-major.
651
00:57:07,174 --> 00:57:08,175
Whatever you did there.
652
00:57:13,347 --> 00:57:15,600
No. The... no, no. Not that one.
653
00:57:15,683 --> 00:57:16,952
I don't know the fucking chords!
654
00:57:16,976 --> 00:57:19,103
But... shit!
655
00:57:19,186 --> 00:57:22,064
Sorry. I just, like, know when I hear it.
Wish I could play.
656
00:57:22,148 --> 00:57:24,275
I got... what's that?
657
00:57:24,358 --> 00:57:26,027
- B-minor.
- There! It goes there!
658
00:57:37,496 --> 00:57:39,373
- Did I get the chord?
- Yeah, yeah.
659
00:57:39,457 --> 00:57:42,460
I'm just interested,
you know, where Taylor's going.
660
00:57:42,543 --> 00:57:44,303
And then where Marcus goes,
and where I went.
661
00:57:44,378 --> 00:57:47,048
We're all very different places.
662
00:57:47,548 --> 00:57:50,217
You know, it was just like,
"that's what I was hoping for."
663
00:57:56,599 --> 00:57:58,017
Think we almost have one.
664
00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:59,560
- Really?
- Wanna hear it?
665
00:57:59,644 --> 00:58:00,645
Yeah. I do.
666
00:58:02,063 --> 00:58:03,981
We're gonna go from the slow one?
667
00:58:04,065 --> 00:58:05,316
So just, just do that verse...
668
00:58:05,399 --> 00:58:07,693
And so after that... so that we're clear...
669
00:58:07,777 --> 00:58:10,237
Right after that
we go straight to a-minor, right?
670
00:58:11,113 --> 00:58:12,740
No. We go to e-minor.
671
00:58:15,993 --> 00:58:17,578
Yeah.
672
00:58:17,662 --> 00:58:19,789
- Cool.
- You wanna do that first?
673
00:58:19,872 --> 00:58:22,833
Well, no, I just wanna
do it all a bit but...
674
00:58:22,917 --> 00:58:24,335
I'm just trying...
675
00:58:24,418 --> 00:58:26,170
- I'm going through everything.
- Yeah.
676
00:58:26,253 --> 00:58:29,006
I wanna do some titles we haven't done yet.
677
00:58:29,090 --> 00:58:32,343
- This is like the third version of this.
- But we have another one.
678
00:58:32,426 --> 00:58:34,762
I understand that there's a record,
679
00:58:34,845 --> 00:58:37,324
you know, and I understand
that there's all these different songs,
680
00:58:37,348 --> 00:58:41,310
and I know that, like,
t bone's got an incredibly difficultjob.
681
00:58:41,394 --> 00:58:44,397
I've had now,
several different recording experiences
682
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,607
and it just, like, really highlights.
683
00:58:46,691 --> 00:58:49,735
People try to emulate that whole idea
of the basement tapes,
684
00:58:49,819 --> 00:58:51,713
you know, gettin' a house,
and puttin' people in it,
685
00:58:51,737 --> 00:58:54,907
and just kinda, just chilling
and making a record.
686
00:58:54,990 --> 00:58:58,327
I mean, I think the key
687
00:58:58,411 --> 00:59:00,830
more than house, being together,
688
00:59:00,913 --> 00:59:03,153
is that they didn't think
anybody was gonna listen to it.
689
00:59:03,332 --> 00:59:07,962
So automatically,
if you're making a recording to be heard
690
00:59:08,045 --> 00:59:10,881
that changes the whole energy.
691
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,721
- Anyway...
- That's awesome, man.
692
00:59:16,804 --> 00:59:18,013
Thank you...
693
00:59:18,097 --> 00:59:22,226
No, no. That was worth
the price of admission right there.
694
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:25,563
That's what I came here for. Yeah.
695
00:59:46,917 --> 00:59:51,589
I think the basement tapes from '67
were an amazing inspiration for this.
696
00:59:52,506 --> 00:59:55,843
But I don't think similar artists
go much further than that.
697
01:00:06,187 --> 01:00:08,898
Woodstock was a, place where,
698
01:00:08,981 --> 01:00:11,192
you could kind of go
get your thoughts together.
699
01:00:17,907 --> 01:00:19,617
It was an artist colony,
700
01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:22,787
there were plenty
of painters who lived in that area.
701
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:24,622
But very few musicians.
702
01:00:24,705 --> 01:00:28,125
We certainly knew
of nobody up there playing any music.
703
01:00:28,209 --> 01:00:32,505
Later there was,
but when we were up there middle 60's
704
01:00:32,588 --> 01:00:35,341
we were pretty much by ourselves.
705
01:00:35,424 --> 01:00:38,803
Should Bob Dylan have found himself
walking around so many major cities
706
01:00:38,886 --> 01:00:41,806
he would have been
swamped within moments.
707
01:00:41,889 --> 01:00:44,975
The only people who know he's up there
and know where he is
708
01:00:45,059 --> 01:00:47,520
are friends and confidants.
No one else knows.
709
01:00:48,395 --> 01:00:50,231
He can just be himself. Just Bob.
710
01:01:03,244 --> 01:01:05,246
The events of the day,
they were just happening
711
01:01:05,329 --> 01:01:06,807
and they seemed to be a million miles away.
712
01:01:06,831 --> 01:01:09,750
We weren't really
participating in any of that stuff.
713
01:01:09,834 --> 01:01:11,919
Wherever everybody else was going
714
01:01:12,002 --> 01:01:14,338
that's the place that
we weren't interested in.
715
01:01:14,421 --> 01:01:19,343
It looked like,
we were rebelling against the rebellion.
716
01:01:19,426 --> 01:01:22,179
It was the summer of love
717
01:01:22,263 --> 01:01:24,014
but, we weren't there, so,
718
01:01:24,098 --> 01:01:27,184
you know, we did our thing,
we wrote, million dollar bash,
719
01:01:27,268 --> 01:01:29,937
you know, to go along with
the summer of love.
720
01:01:47,121 --> 01:01:50,541
Bob had been coming every day,
for you know, six, seven days a week.
721
01:01:50,624 --> 01:01:52,209
He'd show up around noon,
722
01:01:52,293 --> 01:01:54,169
if we were sleeping he'd get us up
723
01:01:54,253 --> 01:01:56,714
he'd make noise,
you know, make some coffee.
724
01:01:56,797 --> 01:01:59,550
It was such a great
feeling to have a place,
725
01:01:59,633 --> 01:02:03,470
you know, where everybody could come,
you didn't have to make music.
726
01:02:03,554 --> 01:02:06,473
And it just felt good to have,
you know, the club house.
727
01:02:15,482 --> 01:02:20,362
There's like a couple of really crazy
distortions that I've had my whole life
728
01:02:20,446 --> 01:02:21,906
about being in a band.
729
01:02:21,989 --> 01:02:25,784
One was from growing up
watching the monkees' television show.
730
01:02:25,868 --> 01:02:28,245
And I thought that bands lived together
731
01:02:28,329 --> 01:02:30,789
and, you know, the desire was to just
732
01:02:30,873 --> 01:02:35,586
not have to work, and create together
and have mad-cap adventures.
733
01:02:35,669 --> 01:02:39,006
And the basement tapes,
really played into that.
734
01:02:44,428 --> 01:02:46,722
It allowed us some freedom
735
01:02:46,805 --> 01:02:50,559
to figure out who an artist really is.
736
01:02:50,643 --> 01:02:54,605
It's strange to think of big pink as Eden,
737
01:02:54,688 --> 01:02:56,231
but, maybe, maybe it was.
738
01:03:01,987 --> 01:03:03,948
Is Marcus writing one?
Is that what he's doing?
739
01:03:04,031 --> 01:03:06,450
- He's outside writing.
- Just leave him be.
740
01:03:06,533 --> 01:03:08,613
Yeah, well, leave him be then,
maybe he'll come back.
741
01:03:11,914 --> 01:03:14,625
T bone was like, "we'll just go
round and we'll do a song each."
742
01:03:14,708 --> 01:03:17,878
And I was like,
"shit, I haven't got any songs at all."
743
01:03:17,962 --> 01:03:22,257
So I really felt like
urgency to go upstairs and write something.
744
01:03:23,384 --> 01:03:25,970
These guys are such
prolific writers and I'm not really.
745
01:03:26,053 --> 01:03:28,764
I, like, edit before,
you know, while I'm writing
746
01:03:28,847 --> 01:03:31,350
so much that I don't have a lot of output.
747
01:03:31,433 --> 01:03:32,702
Well should we play this one anyway,
748
01:03:32,726 --> 01:03:33,978
- 'cause, I mean. Yeah?
- Yeah.
749
01:03:34,061 --> 01:03:36,063
And then we've got to
get to it sometime, I mean...
750
01:03:43,028 --> 01:03:46,490
Yeah, this'll teach him
to go outside and write a song.
751
01:03:46,573 --> 01:03:47,825
Yeah.
752
01:03:51,912 --> 01:03:52,913
Here he is.
753
01:03:52,997 --> 01:03:55,833
He's done already,
he's all right, written a hit.
754
01:03:55,916 --> 01:03:57,835
Let's see if he's got a... got a tune.
755
01:04:00,254 --> 01:04:01,463
It's all finished, right?
756
01:04:02,881 --> 01:04:06,677
Since it ain't, should we leave you
alone to keep working on it?
757
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,238
Yeah, I mean,
I don't want to waste people's time
758
01:04:08,262 --> 01:04:09,782
'cause it may not lead anywhere, so...
759
01:04:09,888 --> 01:04:11,056
- Okay.
- Okay.
760
01:04:13,642 --> 01:04:15,745
- We're not playing it.
- He's not... yeah, he's not ready.
761
01:04:15,769 --> 01:04:17,455
Are we doing another song
or are we calling it?
762
01:04:17,479 --> 01:04:18,772
We're going home.
763
01:04:18,856 --> 01:04:21,900
- All right, Elvis, we'll see you.
- We'll see you tomorrow, right, boys.
764
01:04:50,345 --> 01:04:53,015
A lot of the stuff I write
I just don't like at all.
765
01:04:53,098 --> 01:04:57,394
So then finding stuff that I like,
normally takes six months.
766
01:04:57,478 --> 01:05:01,523
And here, I know that in the next 24 hours
I'm gonna have to write a song.
767
01:05:07,988 --> 01:05:10,574
Everybody's got
their insecurities and vanities
768
01:05:10,657 --> 01:05:13,827
and the things where they feel
they are uneasy and you know.
769
01:05:13,911 --> 01:05:16,955
And I appreciate that Marcus
is very self-critical,
770
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:18,892
like, he wouldn't let us
play one of the songs.
771
01:05:18,916 --> 01:05:21,335
He doesn't think it's good enough.
I'm astounded.
772
01:05:21,835 --> 01:05:26,006
I've learnt that
there is something to be had for...
773
01:05:26,090 --> 01:05:28,592
Having that period and then recognising
774
01:05:28,675 --> 01:05:31,011
that you can't actually
sustain that forever.
775
01:05:58,247 --> 01:06:00,207
I think it's good to have a timeframe
776
01:06:00,290 --> 01:06:02,835
where you have to do it
and it's kind of the older way.
777
01:06:02,918 --> 01:06:06,672
I know, you know, plenty of songwriters
who really treat it as a, sort of, job,
778
01:06:06,755 --> 01:06:08,757
like, you sit down and you write.
779
01:06:08,841 --> 01:06:11,301
I think you'll look at this stuff,
780
01:06:11,385 --> 01:06:14,304
and you think,
"well, this is a man who was at work,"
781
01:06:14,388 --> 01:06:15,722
like he was at the office.
782
01:06:16,557 --> 01:06:18,725
I had nothing else to do, so
783
01:06:19,935 --> 01:06:21,645
I started writing a bunch of songs.
784
01:06:24,523 --> 01:06:27,151
I'd write them in longhand
and I'd write them on the typewriter.
785
01:06:27,234 --> 01:06:30,571
Whatever was handy,
pencil, pen, typewriter.
786
01:06:35,784 --> 01:06:38,495
Bob sat at the typewriter
and write a letter,
787
01:06:38,579 --> 01:06:40,497
you know, and not mail it.
788
01:06:40,581 --> 01:06:44,042
I never saw a man write
so many letters to himself in my life.
789
01:06:47,462 --> 01:06:51,842
Maybe 150 songs were composed
in about a seven or eight month period.
790
01:06:51,925 --> 01:06:53,510
And that is pretty mind boggling
791
01:06:53,594 --> 01:06:56,763
when you consider,
nothing officially came out at the time.
792
01:07:08,483 --> 01:07:10,235
How do we go about writing those songs?
793
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:13,197
I'd know I wasn't going to
write anything about myself.
794
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,716
I didn't have nothing to say about myself
795
01:07:14,740 --> 01:07:17,534
that I figure anybody else
would be interested in anyway.
796
01:07:17,618 --> 01:07:20,204
You kind of look for ideas,
and the TV would be on,
797
01:07:20,287 --> 01:07:24,333
you know, like, as the world turns
or dark shadows or something and...
798
01:07:24,416 --> 01:07:28,670
Just any old thing
would create a beginning to a song.
799
01:07:28,754 --> 01:07:31,924
Names out of phonebooks and things.
800
01:07:32,007 --> 01:07:34,468
When China first exploded
that hydrogen bomb,
801
01:07:34,551 --> 01:07:37,888
that just, kind of flashed across
the headlines in newspapers,
802
01:07:37,971 --> 01:07:41,141
so, you know,
we just go in and write tears of rage.
803
01:07:41,850 --> 01:07:43,393
Things were just happening, you know.
804
01:07:43,477 --> 01:07:44,662
There was riots in the street.
805
01:07:44,686 --> 01:07:47,606
They were... they were rioting
in Rochester, New York
806
01:07:47,689 --> 01:07:49,691
and that was, wasn't that far away,
807
01:07:49,775 --> 01:07:51,777
so we write too much of nothing.
808
01:07:51,860 --> 01:07:53,904
And just one thing led
to another, you know.
809
01:07:53,987 --> 01:07:55,155
The human heart.
810
01:07:56,156 --> 01:07:59,993
That's the first time anybody'd ever heard
of a human heart being transplanted.
811
01:08:00,535 --> 01:08:02,955
That was incredible.
It was a real breakthrough.
812
01:08:03,038 --> 01:08:04,957
So we came up with a song
813
01:08:06,500 --> 01:08:09,380
and then, after we got the lyrics down,
we took the song to the basement.
814
01:08:10,796 --> 01:08:11,797
Take three.
815
01:08:14,716 --> 01:08:15,717
Three.
816
01:08:21,932 --> 01:08:23,725
It's those, but with that change on.
817
01:08:23,809 --> 01:08:26,103
It's "house," instead
of "living room" there.
818
01:08:26,186 --> 01:08:28,814
- Okay.
- And then, I think this last verse,
819
01:08:28,897 --> 01:08:30,357
if you're happy with that.
820
01:08:31,817 --> 01:08:32,877
That one. Gypsy... what does it say?
821
01:08:32,901 --> 01:08:34,611
"Gypsy woman, you know every place I go,
822
01:08:34,695 --> 01:08:37,456
"even a thousand miles away from home."
It's stealing things from his.
823
01:08:37,531 --> 01:08:38,967
- Is that all right?
- Yes, of course.
824
01:08:38,991 --> 01:08:40,325
- Okay.
- Hey.
825
01:08:40,409 --> 01:08:41,952
Johnny, you can plug into this amp.
826
01:08:42,035 --> 01:08:43,287
All right.
827
01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:46,348
What's... what's the title of the song?
828
01:08:46,873 --> 01:08:48,375
- Kansas City.
- Kansas City.
829
01:08:50,168 --> 01:08:51,771
What? I haven't even heard the song, yet.
830
01:08:51,795 --> 01:08:53,630
Is it a minor after the f or the c?
831
01:08:53,714 --> 01:08:55,716
- Which bit?
- The verses.
832
01:08:57,134 --> 01:08:58,635
Yeah, it's a minor.
833
01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:03,223
A situation like this is really good
for the creative force
834
01:09:03,307 --> 01:09:06,143
because I think as creative people
835
01:09:06,226 --> 01:09:10,230
we kind of, get in our rooms
and we get really attached.
836
01:09:10,314 --> 01:09:13,900
That's one of the reasons why being
creative is so difficult because it is you.
837
01:09:13,984 --> 01:09:15,193
It's a part of you.
838
01:09:15,277 --> 01:09:17,988
But I think to be the, the...
839
01:09:18,071 --> 01:09:21,283
To really let the art
have a life of its own,
840
01:09:21,366 --> 01:09:22,951
you have to detach from it.
841
01:09:27,914 --> 01:09:29,875
Well, that might be nice. Let's do that.
842
01:09:29,958 --> 01:09:30,959
That's a cool groove.
843
01:09:31,877 --> 01:09:34,004
- All right, let's try that.
- Here we go.
844
01:09:34,087 --> 01:09:35,589
Roll tape, roll tape.
845
01:09:36,089 --> 01:09:37,257
Take a marker.
846
01:09:37,341 --> 01:09:40,260
One, two, one, two, three, four.
847
01:11:45,177 --> 01:11:48,722
I think it's really good
to have the fear, you know, of...
848
01:11:48,805 --> 01:11:52,684
The fear of failure and the fear of
not being able to do your job,
849
01:11:52,767 --> 01:11:54,352
properly at all, I think you need it.
850
01:11:54,436 --> 01:11:56,146
I've had, you know, all sorts of careers,
851
01:11:56,229 --> 01:12:00,108
but in this one I think it's good to be
just close to the edge all the time,
852
01:12:00,192 --> 01:12:03,862
'cause it keeps you
somewhat fresh and hungry,
853
01:12:03,945 --> 01:12:07,491
'cause I think when people
stop getting hungry, especially with songs,
854
01:12:07,574 --> 01:12:09,743
then they start writing
shit songs, you know.
855
01:13:18,687 --> 01:13:19,688
Nice one.
856
01:13:22,357 --> 01:13:25,277
It's cool. It feels like the '60s,
you know, I think that's what they did.
857
01:13:25,902 --> 01:13:28,530
You know, that's why
their output was so massive.
858
01:13:28,613 --> 01:13:30,115
You know, now we get so meticulous
859
01:13:30,198 --> 01:13:32,576
because you know
how many people are watching.
860
01:13:32,659 --> 01:13:34,703
You know, with the Internet, whatever.
861
01:13:34,786 --> 01:13:36,305
That you feel like you
have to check yourself
862
01:13:36,329 --> 01:13:37,682
and check yourself and check yourself.
863
01:13:37,706 --> 01:13:41,459
Whereas back then, it was just, fucking
cut it and see how it goes, you know.
864
01:13:42,544 --> 01:13:45,088
- What's up, now?
- Let's do another one.
865
01:13:45,171 --> 01:13:46,464
Yeah, all right.
866
01:13:59,603 --> 01:14:02,230
I wanted to represent
867
01:14:02,689 --> 01:14:04,774
and, I felt like my voice was important.
868
01:14:04,858 --> 01:14:08,778
This, lost on the river, you know,
that I sat with Marcus and Taylor,
869
01:14:08,862 --> 01:14:10,462
you know, I felt really good about that.
870
01:14:10,530 --> 01:14:12,991
It's a beautiful tune,
and I kind of felt like,
871
01:14:13,074 --> 01:14:15,785
I had to keep sort of you know,
pushing it through
872
01:14:15,869 --> 01:14:17,888
and actually really
where it started getting somewhere
873
01:14:17,912 --> 01:14:20,457
is 'cause Marcus was
a champion of the song.
874
01:14:21,875 --> 01:14:24,336
Okay, let's try this intro
and see if it will work.
875
01:14:24,419 --> 01:14:25,837
Are we rolling?
876
01:14:26,713 --> 01:14:28,381
Yes, we're rolling.
877
01:14:46,483 --> 01:14:48,026
Then you start singing here.
878
01:14:49,319 --> 01:14:51,047
- Okay, that's...
- We're gonna pace the whole round.
879
01:14:51,071 --> 01:14:52,489
You're going the whole round, okay.
880
01:15:28,274 --> 01:15:30,193
- Yeah, it's kinda...
- Yeah.
881
01:15:31,277 --> 01:15:32,320
Close, but not.
882
01:15:32,404 --> 01:15:34,072
I think it's not found the pocket.
883
01:15:34,155 --> 01:15:37,701
No. Can we just try it
one time like a more...
884
01:15:37,784 --> 01:15:39,369
Like, so that we're leaving space
885
01:15:39,452 --> 01:15:42,789
but we're playing the
6/8 but just not with a...
886
01:15:44,082 --> 01:15:45,458
- Rhythm but more...
- Yeah.
887
01:15:45,542 --> 01:15:48,211
More, like, just following
the voice, you know.
888
01:15:48,294 --> 01:15:50,922
- Were we playing in 6/8?
- I'm gonna try it.
889
01:15:57,554 --> 01:15:58,805
Come in here.
890
01:15:59,806 --> 01:16:00,807
Okay.
891
01:16:13,194 --> 01:16:15,029
No, I'm sorry.
892
01:16:15,655 --> 01:16:17,323
It's not... it's just...
893
01:16:17,991 --> 01:16:21,870
The thing that I liked about the movement,
894
01:16:21,953 --> 01:16:24,247
- it just feels like it's ploddy now.
- Yeah.
895
01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:25,641
Can we just try that one one more time
896
01:16:25,665 --> 01:16:27,518
with, like, the same sort of feel,
but slightly quicker.
897
01:16:27,542 --> 01:16:28,752
I'm just gonna play drums.
898
01:16:28,835 --> 01:16:30,035
- All right.
- Let's try again.
899
01:16:36,593 --> 01:16:39,262
- I'm going faster than that.
- You mean dramatically, yeah.
900
01:16:39,345 --> 01:16:40,764
One, two, three...
901
01:16:56,362 --> 01:16:57,614
Okay, come in here.
902
01:16:57,697 --> 01:16:58,697
Yeah.
903
01:16:58,740 --> 01:16:59,800
We were not finding the top
904
01:16:59,824 --> 01:17:01,304
- of the sequence there, yeah.
- Yeah.
905
01:17:03,536 --> 01:17:06,831
Sounds like we're trying to elevate
something that doesn't need elevating.
906
01:17:06,915 --> 01:17:09,083
What about the tempo
you all were doing upstairs,
907
01:17:09,167 --> 01:17:11,169
with you strumming the acoustic guitar,
908
01:17:11,252 --> 01:17:12,921
- it's gone fon/vard...
- Yeah...
909
01:17:13,004 --> 01:17:14,798
I thought that was better, personally.
910
01:17:14,881 --> 01:17:16,859
- Yeah, let's do that.
- Let's do it from the same spot.
911
01:17:16,883 --> 01:17:18,802
- Do the chorus.
- You play acoustic. Yeah.
912
01:17:18,885 --> 01:17:21,071
Okay, how about, let's try this.
How about let's sing...
913
01:17:21,095 --> 01:17:23,073
Let's sing, lost on the river
and you respond to it.
914
01:17:23,097 --> 01:17:24,682
One, two, three.
915
01:17:31,147 --> 01:17:33,733
I don't know, it's... I don't know. No.
916
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:35,443
What do you think?
917
01:17:35,527 --> 01:17:38,167
If it doesn't... if it doesn't
tickle your fancy, that's all right.
918
01:17:39,364 --> 01:17:41,991
That failure of agreement,
that's less important
919
01:17:42,075 --> 01:17:43,827
than trying to get a feeling in the moment
920
01:17:43,910 --> 01:17:46,663
and to do it with a band
that never played together before
921
01:17:46,746 --> 01:17:49,958
while doing this, potentially...
922
01:17:50,041 --> 01:17:51,835
Catastrophic thing, you know.
923
01:17:51,918 --> 01:17:53,753
Can we hit that djump?
924
01:17:53,837 --> 01:17:55,755
At a, like a little bit later?
925
01:17:56,089 --> 01:17:58,925
And also, like, do the same chords
for the verse and the chorus,
926
01:17:59,008 --> 01:18:00,236
like a kind of galloping through.
927
01:18:00,260 --> 01:18:01,678
Are we just gonna hold on the one?
928
01:18:01,761 --> 01:18:02,863
Are we gonna hold on the one between...
929
01:18:02,887 --> 01:18:04,865
Why don't we just try a chorus?
Can we try a chorus?
930
01:18:04,889 --> 01:18:06,449
- So we're all on the same page.
- Yeah.
931
01:18:06,474 --> 01:18:08,226
- Yeah.
- What are we trying?
932
01:18:08,309 --> 01:18:09,978
Just try a chorus like that.
933
01:18:10,061 --> 01:18:11,813
I'm getting very, very confused.
934
01:18:11,896 --> 01:18:14,190
- Why don't we go and hear...
- Let's hear that.
935
01:18:14,274 --> 01:18:16,194
Yeah, I know
we didn't lock it at the very top...
936
01:18:22,448 --> 01:18:26,286
Even when you've mixed a record
and you compile it into a sequence
937
01:18:26,369 --> 01:18:28,663
quite often the first playback, you'll go,
938
01:18:28,746 --> 01:18:31,708
"that didn't actually work,
that transitional." That...
939
01:18:31,791 --> 01:18:34,460
That the energy of that track
isn't quite what I thought it was
940
01:18:34,544 --> 01:18:36,796
and then something else will surprise you
941
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,757
but obviously, you know,
you wait to be disappointed.
942
01:19:08,536 --> 01:19:10,038
I think we should move on.
943
01:19:10,830 --> 01:19:12,332
I think we should move on.
944
01:19:13,875 --> 01:19:15,168
No. Do another song.
945
01:19:16,336 --> 01:19:17,378
I just...
946
01:19:19,088 --> 01:19:20,298
It's like...
947
01:19:21,090 --> 01:19:22,091
I don't know.
948
01:19:22,175 --> 01:19:24,775
It sounded great when you guys
were playing upstairs at the table.
949
01:19:24,844 --> 01:19:26,444
Once you add the band it just doesn't...
950
01:19:26,512 --> 01:19:28,598
- Yeah.
- Yeah, I think the band makes it worse...
951
01:19:28,681 --> 01:19:29,682
Okay.
952
01:19:30,642 --> 01:19:31,952
Wait, the thing about this song is that
953
01:19:31,976 --> 01:19:34,145
it's been... it's a real...
Been a re-creation of...
954
01:19:34,228 --> 01:19:35,521
- Yeah.
- Everybody's kind of,
955
01:19:35,605 --> 01:19:37,416
you know, which makes it
harder to pin down, I think.
956
01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:38,600
- Yeah, yeah.
- But it's cool.
957
01:19:38,650 --> 01:19:42,278
It's the only time
we've failed to lock on a groove, really.
958
01:19:42,362 --> 01:19:44,340
Would you, maybe,
want to take a breath and come back to it?
959
01:19:44,364 --> 01:19:46,824
Should we switch to another song
and then come back to this?
960
01:19:46,908 --> 01:19:48,534
- If you want to...
- It's up to you.
961
01:19:49,035 --> 01:19:50,638
- Liberty street?
- Let's do Liberty street.
962
01:19:50,662 --> 01:19:51,704
Yeah.
963
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,432
- Let's switch to something...
- It'll be easy.
964
01:19:53,456 --> 01:19:54,896
- Completely different.
- What? Yeah.
965
01:19:55,041 --> 01:19:56,209
You already know, like...
966
01:19:56,292 --> 01:19:57,710
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
967
01:20:09,806 --> 01:20:10,807
Okay.
968
01:21:35,433 --> 01:21:37,185
Each song that I write is like,
969
01:21:37,268 --> 01:21:41,981
I put, like, every fucking ounce
and heart and everything into it
970
01:21:42,065 --> 01:21:44,150
because I don't... I just, you know...
971
01:21:45,276 --> 01:21:47,278
I don't sit down and, like, write 10 songs,
972
01:21:47,361 --> 01:21:49,238
you know, I, like, write one.
973
01:21:49,322 --> 01:21:50,382
You know, and I put all my eggs
974
01:21:50,406 --> 01:21:51,925
in that basket. Maybe I shouldn't do that,
975
01:21:51,949 --> 01:21:56,579
but, like, right now that's the kind of
songwriter I am and it's just like, you know...
976
01:21:56,662 --> 01:21:59,457
So I just, I really
could not deal with that.
977
01:22:53,219 --> 01:22:56,139
You sang the first
and last verse from that beautiful.
978
01:22:56,222 --> 01:22:58,307
We should probably
should just stop this one now.
979
01:22:58,391 --> 01:22:59,684
Okay.
980
01:22:59,767 --> 01:23:01,286
- Maybe one more time.
- No, I'm willing to hear it.
981
01:23:01,310 --> 01:23:04,230
Look, you know what, it ended, it was over.
982
01:23:04,313 --> 01:23:05,481
- It sounded great...
- Cool.
983
01:23:05,565 --> 01:23:07,358
It started and it sounded great.
984
01:23:08,526 --> 01:23:09,944
Cool.
985
01:23:15,992 --> 01:23:21,747
The local post office was very good
about not saying where he lived,
986
01:23:21,831 --> 01:23:24,375
but you ask around enough and you find out.
987
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,676
It's not hard in a town of this size
988
01:23:33,759 --> 01:23:36,012
to figure out where somebody's living.
989
01:23:36,095 --> 01:23:40,516
So, his sense of security and privacy
990
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,060
started to get invaded more and more,
991
01:23:43,144 --> 01:23:46,647
and it started getting
more and more unnerving for him.
992
01:23:46,772 --> 01:23:49,358
He found people on his roof,
993
01:23:49,442 --> 01:23:52,069
he found people rooting around,
looking for this or that
994
01:23:52,153 --> 01:23:54,280
like, "did Bob drop that gum wrapper?"
995
01:23:54,363 --> 01:23:57,617
They found a couple in his bed
when they came home one time.
996
01:24:13,883 --> 01:24:16,552
It must have been awful
when he realised that it was ending.
997
01:24:16,636 --> 01:24:18,930
That the public was too close to him again.
998
01:24:19,013 --> 01:24:24,185
Bob just decided to leave and
with very little ceremony he just left.
999
01:24:57,885 --> 01:25:02,598
If the band hadn't come in and
Dylan hadn't come in to that house
1000
01:25:03,307 --> 01:25:07,144
then you think, like,
what wouldn't have happened after that.
1001
01:25:07,228 --> 01:25:09,939
You know, really the
whole life of the band,
1002
01:25:10,022 --> 01:25:14,110
and most of Dylan's output
for the next 10 years,
1003
01:25:14,193 --> 01:25:17,446
you know, used that kind of fusion
and that collaboration.
1004
01:25:17,530 --> 01:25:20,157
Makes you realise
what a crucial time it was for...
1005
01:25:20,241 --> 01:25:21,742
For both those artists.
1006
01:25:22,785 --> 01:25:24,346
So, what's the rhythm
you want to do with that?
1007
01:25:24,370 --> 01:25:25,454
I don't know.
1008
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,542
So, if we did like a...
1009
01:25:34,547 --> 01:25:38,134
I think I've got a certain confidence back
that I might have lost a bit.
1010
01:25:38,217 --> 01:25:39,969
I got to the point where I felt like a...
1011
01:25:40,052 --> 01:25:42,638
You know, might not
ever write a song again.
1012
01:25:42,722 --> 01:25:44,199
I think a lot of people go through that,
1013
01:25:44,223 --> 01:25:46,809
but I felt confident that,
like, when push comes to shove,
1014
01:25:47,310 --> 01:25:48,644
I can sit down and write a song
1015
01:25:48,728 --> 01:25:51,772
and it not sound identical
to the song before.
1016
01:26:23,596 --> 01:26:25,264
Rhiannon, that sounds so cool.
1017
01:26:26,098 --> 01:26:28,809
Marcus, tell me this,
is this, is this too thick?
1018
01:26:28,893 --> 01:26:30,519
I'm trying to thin it right.
1019
01:26:34,398 --> 01:26:36,734
Yeah, just so, so
there's something playing the chord.
1020
01:26:37,485 --> 01:26:39,987
Yeah, but no real...
Nothing else, you know.
1021
01:26:48,537 --> 01:26:49,580
Yeah.
1022
01:27:12,770 --> 01:27:15,106
Some, some pressures that I came in with,
1023
01:27:15,189 --> 01:27:18,025
I still feel the same
way and I always will,
1024
01:27:18,109 --> 01:27:19,628
and may that always be the case, I guess.
1025
01:27:19,652 --> 01:27:23,739
'Cause you look at Marcus who just
came in as a...
1026
01:27:23,823 --> 01:27:26,409
An assassin and just whatever,
whatever he picked up,
1027
01:27:26,492 --> 01:27:28,327
hejust turned into an incredible track.
1028
01:28:00,443 --> 01:28:02,319
Cool, the way you waited for that.
1029
01:28:58,584 --> 01:28:59,728
You kind of crushed it, Marcus.
1030
01:28:59,752 --> 01:29:00,872
- Sang it great, man!
- Yeah.
1031
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,173
I don't think,
I don't think that third verse works.
1032
01:29:04,256 --> 01:29:06,258
I think maybe it should just be two verses.
1033
01:29:06,342 --> 01:29:07,343
I don't know.
1034
01:29:08,260 --> 01:29:09,261
That was...
1035
01:29:09,929 --> 01:29:12,014
I wrote that third verse. It feels...
1036
01:29:12,097 --> 01:29:14,016
- No, it...
- No, man, it's great.
1037
01:29:14,099 --> 01:29:15,744
Oh, man, it's saying,
like when I come home to you.
1038
01:29:15,768 --> 01:29:17,937
See this... this is the...
1039
01:29:23,275 --> 01:29:24,275
Go hear it.
1040
01:29:24,318 --> 01:29:26,529
You know, I suppose after a while
1041
01:29:26,612 --> 01:29:30,699
maybe some of
your fundamental insecurities can,
1042
01:29:30,783 --> 01:29:35,246
can be... like I would be way more insecure
about this if this was two years ago.
1043
01:29:35,329 --> 01:29:38,040
Not because I am a better musician,
but just because,
1044
01:29:38,123 --> 01:29:40,084
maybe I've had a bit more experience.
1045
01:29:40,834 --> 01:29:42,437
But there are some insecurities
that never go away
1046
01:29:42,461 --> 01:29:43,647
and I guess, your question is whether,
1047
01:29:43,671 --> 01:29:45,881
you know, as an artist,
you need to have insecurity.
1048
01:29:45,965 --> 01:29:47,883
I don't know. Maybe.
1049
01:30:05,985 --> 01:30:07,236
What do you think?
1050
01:30:07,319 --> 01:30:11,073
You know, you treat like this...
It's like it's... it's sad.
1051
01:30:11,156 --> 01:30:14,743
But the point of the chorus is
not drowning and not giving up.
1052
01:30:14,827 --> 01:30:17,746
I fully admit that I bring
a lot of my own baggage,
1053
01:30:17,830 --> 01:30:20,082
you know, but I can contribute
1054
01:30:20,791 --> 01:30:22,585
and I think the more that I
1055
01:30:22,668 --> 01:30:23,794
have confidence in that
1056
01:30:23,877 --> 01:30:25,146
and it's getting better and better,
1057
01:30:25,170 --> 01:30:27,423
but the, you know, and this, this was...
1058
01:30:27,881 --> 01:30:29,276
I mean, it's amazing what the difference
1059
01:30:29,300 --> 01:30:31,176
in having somebody believe in you
1060
01:30:31,802 --> 01:30:32,845
will do.
1061
01:30:33,345 --> 01:30:35,639
Do you think... do you think it sits okay?
1062
01:30:35,764 --> 01:30:38,517
- Yeah, I think... I think it's amazing.
- Okay.
1063
01:30:38,601 --> 01:30:40,936
Yeah, I... when your voice goes that low,
1064
01:30:41,020 --> 01:30:43,272
the kind of texture of it, it's ridiculous.
1065
01:30:43,355 --> 01:30:44,607
Okay.
1066
01:30:44,690 --> 01:30:46,942
And I don't know,
if you want to sing with girls.
1067
01:30:47,026 --> 01:30:48,527
We'll have girls sing on it as well.
1068
01:31:09,757 --> 01:31:12,092
The best thing about
this bunch of people is that
1069
01:31:12,176 --> 01:31:15,137
there is so much acceptance
and there is so much support.
1070
01:31:15,220 --> 01:31:17,306
Every single version of every song,
1071
01:31:17,389 --> 01:31:20,976
we all feel so motivated
to do right by them, you know?
1072
01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:22,144
To not let them down.
1073
01:31:22,227 --> 01:31:23,227
Go all the way.
1074
01:31:23,270 --> 01:31:25,957
Why are we waiting? Let's just go and
record one over there, just like this.
1075
01:31:25,981 --> 01:31:27,042
- Okay.
- 'Cause I think it's sick!
1076
01:31:27,066 --> 01:31:29,151
All right. What, the
whole thing or just the...
1077
01:31:29,234 --> 01:31:30,361
All right.
1078
01:31:31,904 --> 01:31:32,905
Words.
1079
01:31:33,906 --> 01:31:36,742
You know, we've struggled
through a couple of our songs.
1080
01:31:36,825 --> 01:31:38,105
There's moments where you think,
1081
01:31:39,453 --> 01:31:41,333
"is this gonna shift
into walking away from it?"
1082
01:31:42,122 --> 01:31:44,750
But that didn't happen with this group.
It never happened once.
1083
01:33:26,894 --> 01:33:30,564
This song,
it certainly grows out of life around us
1084
01:33:30,647 --> 01:33:32,399
and when there's a song that resonates
1085
01:33:32,483 --> 01:33:35,360
it's hard to know.
It is a mystery, it is metaphysical.
1086
01:34:36,672 --> 01:34:38,215
This is fucking gorgeous.
1087
01:34:39,383 --> 01:34:40,926
It's gonna make me cry.
1088
01:35:13,458 --> 01:35:16,920
I feel better now, but it's, it's,
you know... it was really hard.
1089
01:35:17,004 --> 01:35:20,340
I learnt I can sit down and,
1090
01:35:22,092 --> 01:35:25,178
you know, write a really
good piece of music.
1091
01:35:26,179 --> 01:35:30,225
I'm just finding my way to it
and everything is a step in that direction.
1092
01:35:30,309 --> 01:35:31,810
I think this was a big step.
1093
01:35:31,894 --> 01:35:33,574
Yeah, this was supposed to be a rehearsal.
1094
01:35:34,646 --> 01:35:36,291
And then Marcus was like,
"let's just cut it right here
1095
01:35:36,315 --> 01:35:38,066
"while they're working in the other room."
1096
01:35:38,150 --> 01:35:40,461
I didn't really do much,
I just used the guitar as an excuse
1097
01:35:40,485 --> 01:35:41,965
to sit in the room while they did it.
1098
01:35:42,529 --> 01:35:44,156
- Good job!
- Oh, man!
1099
01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:45,341
That was so fun, doing that.
1100
01:35:45,365 --> 01:35:47,701
See, that's... that's
the way it was set to be.
1101
01:35:47,784 --> 01:35:49,304
When you guys are all in the room together.
1102
01:35:49,328 --> 01:35:51,496
- Yeah, we're just like vibin' and...
- Yeah.
1103
01:35:51,830 --> 01:35:53,308
That's how it goes you know,
'cause then you relax
1104
01:35:53,332 --> 01:35:55,012
- and you're not thinkin' about it.
- Yeah.
1105
01:35:55,459 --> 01:35:57,753
I feel like any pressure, head-trip things
1106
01:35:57,836 --> 01:35:59,171
that any of us had going in
1107
01:35:59,963 --> 01:36:02,025
were removed because
everybody did carry their weight.
1108
01:36:02,049 --> 01:36:03,467
Yeah, thanks man.
1109
01:36:04,343 --> 01:36:07,304
I'm happy with all of the songs,
1110
01:36:07,387 --> 01:36:10,057
but I guess time will
be the ultimate judge.
1111
01:36:10,140 --> 01:36:12,434
You know, there's still so much
that remains to be seen
1112
01:36:12,517 --> 01:36:14,227
with how, how the record's released.
1113
01:36:21,068 --> 01:36:25,656
I don't remember when I became aware
of these songs being bootlegged.
1114
01:36:25,739 --> 01:36:28,617
Some enterprising young men
out here in California
1115
01:36:28,700 --> 01:36:32,454
turned these tunes into an album
called the great white wonder.
1116
01:36:32,537 --> 01:36:34,206
I had no intention of putting them out.
1117
01:36:34,289 --> 01:36:35,624
I don't even...
1118
01:36:35,707 --> 01:36:37,018
I wouldn't know where to get this record.
1119
01:36:37,042 --> 01:36:39,544
I guess they were selling them
in record stores.
1120
01:36:51,306 --> 01:36:56,478
And it becomes the first
rock and roll bootleg record ever.
1121
01:36:57,396 --> 01:36:59,666
These things spread like
wildfire through the underground,
1122
01:36:59,690 --> 01:37:01,525
but it was just like,
people wanted to buy it
1123
01:37:01,608 --> 01:37:03,753
and more people want to buy it,
now more people want to buy it,
1124
01:37:03,777 --> 01:37:05,654
now somebody else is
bootlegging the bootleg.
1125
01:37:05,737 --> 01:37:07,990
You are talking 300,000 or 400,000 copies.
1126
01:37:08,073 --> 01:37:10,867
Eventually coming
to the attention of rolling stone
1127
01:37:10,951 --> 01:37:14,579
for them to write "Dylan's basement tapes
should be released."
1128
01:37:15,914 --> 01:37:19,751
A rehearsal tape is really
what the basement tapes are.
1129
01:37:19,835 --> 01:37:22,504
They are not gonna turn
it into Columbia records,
1130
01:37:22,587 --> 01:37:24,297
but they are great demos
1131
01:37:24,381 --> 01:37:28,385
to send out to other
bands and other singers
1132
01:37:28,468 --> 01:37:30,595
who are going to cover Bob's songs.
1133
01:37:34,099 --> 01:37:36,139
There's a great Bob Dylan song,
it goes like this...
1134
01:38:24,357 --> 01:38:29,279
It's always interesting when someone
takes a song of yours and re-records it.
1135
01:38:32,407 --> 01:38:35,535
But these songs weren't
tailor made for anybody.
1136
01:38:35,619 --> 01:38:37,829
I just wrote what I felt like writing.
1137
01:38:38,914 --> 01:38:40,582
All right, let's do it, y'all.
1138
01:38:42,375 --> 01:38:44,711
Let's see if we can blow some stuff off.
1139
01:38:54,513 --> 01:38:56,389
The only word that always comes to mind
1140
01:38:56,473 --> 01:38:58,600
when I listen to the
basement tapes is "joy."
1141
01:38:59,142 --> 01:39:02,437
And as someone
growing up wanting to write songs
1142
01:39:02,521 --> 01:39:06,733
and wanting to believe that
it wasn't just about getting famous,
1143
01:39:06,817 --> 01:39:09,486
or it wasn'tjust about making a career.
1144
01:39:09,569 --> 01:39:12,280
I pictured them, if none of
them had ever become famous
1145
01:39:12,364 --> 01:39:13,782
maybe doing the same thing.
1146
01:39:53,905 --> 01:39:56,241
You know, when somebody
is singing something
1147
01:39:56,366 --> 01:39:59,077
into a microphone and they smile,
you can hear it.
1148
01:39:59,161 --> 01:40:03,498
And that's the thing that I feel like
you can hear so clearly in the recordings.
1149
01:40:03,582 --> 01:40:06,251
I mean, it's really like
made me step back and think
1150
01:40:06,334 --> 01:40:08,962
the recordings aren't
the project, you know.
1151
01:40:09,045 --> 01:40:10,755
It's like, it's this process that is.
1152
01:40:34,112 --> 01:40:35,590
This feels like the basement tapes a lot
1153
01:40:35,614 --> 01:40:37,908
'cause I think we've tried
to stick to that same spirit
1154
01:40:37,991 --> 01:40:40,035
you know, and we've been
having so much fun
1155
01:40:40,118 --> 01:40:42,537
outside of any musical context as well
1156
01:40:42,621 --> 01:40:45,207
which you get that spirit from
the original basement tape.
1157
01:40:45,290 --> 01:40:48,251
Those guys just had fun
cuttin' up and hangin' out.
1158
01:40:48,335 --> 01:40:51,379
We're not trying to copy that,
but we're trying to enjoy ourselves
1159
01:40:51,463 --> 01:40:53,465
with what's a unique opportunity.
1160
01:40:53,548 --> 01:40:55,588
Somebody's gonna want to
pick an argument with this.
1161
01:40:55,634 --> 01:40:58,220
To hell with that. You've missed the point.
1162
01:40:58,303 --> 01:41:01,014
This has been one of the mostjoyful things
I've ever done
1163
01:41:01,097 --> 01:41:04,476
and it's most surprising
and I couldn't have had a better time.
90846
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