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The following programme contains
distressing scenes.
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It's now almost
a quarter of a century
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since Sophie Toscan du Plantier was
murdered in Toormore in West Cork.
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Ian Bailey, the chief suspect,
was never charged.
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The Director of Public Prosecutions
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prevented the police from charging
him due to insufficient evidence.
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In response, in 2007 the French
launched their own campaign
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against Ian Bailey.
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They attempted to extradite him
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under a European arrest warrant
but that failed.
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Now a case in absentia
commences against him in Paris...
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..while he remains down in West Cork.
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That's called a Martello tower.
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They were built by the British
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in fear of the French
arriving in Ireland,
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bringing the Napoleoniccode.
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Ian Bailey will be tried
under that code...
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..which Napoleon himself declared
as his biggest achievement.
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In Ireland, we wish the French
had brought their code
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born of revolution because we were
suffering under the penal laws
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which were essentially
apartheid laws,
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not against race
but against religion.
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So it's not the first time that
we heard about the Napoleonic code.
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It's a very, very interesting
conflict of cultures.
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The Bailey case has led to a clash of
two legal systems.
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Me personally, I would prefer
that there was one legal system
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throughout Europe
that we could all adhere to.
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But that's not the case.
And this conflict is gonna show
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the weaknesses and strengths
of both systems.
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Ian Bailey has repeatedly
denied any involvement
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in the killing of Ms Toscan du
Plantier
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or ever having confessed his guilt.
He's being tried in absentia.
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He's not being represented by a
legal team at the trial and there's
no jury.
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The case will instead be decided by
three magistrates.
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They're...
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trapped in the position where they
can't grieve,
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where they're not allowed
to let Sophie go.
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I suppose, like, talking to them,
there was the horror
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of the kind of continual nightmare
of the way she died,
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very brutally.
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There's just so many elements of it
that lead, like,
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to a society
that needs to examine itself.
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It goes to the police,
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it goes to the forensics in Ireland.
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It goes to the heart of a system
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that didn't have enough empathy
for the family when she died.
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Pierre-Louis
Baudey-Vignaud arriving at the
criminal court of Paris
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where the man
accused of murdering his mother
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has gone on trial in absentia.
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I just want justice to be done.
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This trial is not only
the trial of my mother's death.
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It's the trial of the truth
because we all need it.
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We all need it for peace again.
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Renowned journalist and writer, Nick
Foster, is attending court with me.
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I was aware he was writing a book
on the case
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and he has better French than I do
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and I wanted to understand all the
small details.
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The whole case against Bailey,
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the whole charge sheet, an hour and
a half, was read out as a monologue.
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So, at the moment, they've had a
kind of overview
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of 50 or 60 statements
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and they've gone through those.
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There was no cross-examination, so
it never really came to life.
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But they're saying they want
Ian Bailey to be here.
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They want him to be tried in this
building and they want a resolution.
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Of course he can read the newspapers
and switch on TV,
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but they want him here.
They want him here.
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He's either innocent or he's not.
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But he's going to be feeling the
pressure either way.
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Oi, you fuckers!
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-Oi, you fuckers!
-It's all right, I'm
-round here.
-Hello?
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-Hello?!
-Hello?
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The fucking chickens are
-in the side greenhouse.
-Oh, Christ.
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-Causing mayhem.
-Oh...
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Sorry.
They're not too bad, are they?
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Well, you know, I don't need any
extra little tiny stressful things.
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I do not need them.
--Out.
-I don't need them.
-Out.
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'I'm gonna be thrown to a bonfire.
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They're building a gallows,
resurrecting a guillotine in Paris.
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There'll be an absolute feeding
frenzyover me being convicted.'
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Oh. Good evening.
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-Ian, good evening.
-Good evening.
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Hello. This is Nick here, how are
-you?
-I'm OK, I'm 'go maith'.
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I'm gonna tell you what happened
today.
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It's been a long day.
We've only just...
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we've only just had a chance to step
-out.
-Mm-hm.
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They said how Sophie Toscan
-du Plantier was murdered.
-Yep.
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They said you bashed her head in.
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They said I bashed her head in?
With a cavity block.
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They went through the whole thing
there.
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So they say there were 40 to 50
blows...
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and um...and that's why your hands
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were scratched by the brambles.
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We heard a bit about Sophie
and her marriage.
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She wasn't too happy, either in her
-first marriage or her second.
-Yeah.
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And um...
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Yeah, and I think that um... It was
poignant. It was very poignant.
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When we saw the photos
of the crime scene with the body...
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I mean, it was sad, but you know
what, it made me angry too
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because up to now, somebody's got
away with this. Up to now.
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The mother was wheeled in
in a wheelchair.
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The father was there in a beautiful
suit
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listening to every word.
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And it must be so difficult for
them.
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It must be heartbreaking for them.
It must be harrowing for them.
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And they were so dignified -
as was Sophie's son, Pierre-Louis.
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This is the culmination
of a big effort.
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A massive...emotional effort
and investment.
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And you feel for them.
You can't but feel for them.
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The family have spent 22 years
waiting for justice for Sophie.
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But I wonder, can this trial deliver
it?
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Today we heard major plot points
in the investigation
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and as Ian Bailey
had no defence team there,
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they all went uncontested.
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They spoke a lot
-about Marie Farrell today.
-Right.
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They're placing you at Kealfadda
bridge
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on the night of the murder.
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And that was according to her first
phone call to the police.
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Uh-huh.
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Statement of Marie Farrell,
14th February 1997.
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When we were approaching Sylvie
O'Connell's shop,
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I could see a man walking on the
road.
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This man had a black coat which was
down below his knees.
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I now know this man
to be Ian Bailey.
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Absolute total fucking bollocks,
but never mind.
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'Marie Farrell told the two
solicitors
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all her statements
implicating me were false
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and she was persuaded to make them
because the Guards said,
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"Oh, Ian Bailey, he is the
murderer."
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And this is all on record.'
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Oh.
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Mm.
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You would think either you take the
last statement
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or you take nothing, you know?
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In fact, Marie Farrell
offered to come to France
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to say that she recanted
those statements.
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But the French prosecution team
rejected her offer
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or they would only take
her early statements at face value,
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implicating Ian Bailey
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and saying that she saw him at
Kealfadda bridge
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on the night of the murder.
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The contradictions in Marie Farrell's
statements have been ignored...
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but the changing
statements of Ian and Jules
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are the stepping stones on which the
court is building a case against him.
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His movements on the night of
Sophie's murder
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are now under scrutiny.
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They were talking
about a lot of stuff
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but the question is your whole thing
of that night -
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that you left the house
and your alibi doesn't hold up.
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And in your first statement,
you stayed in bed all night.
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It raises questions, you know?
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We have to go back, Ian.
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You should talk to Colm there
about the alibi.
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As he didn't turn up and
we're giving him the opportunity
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to respond to what's happening
in the trial,
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I think that's the only time
he's put under any pressure
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to give any answer
to what they're saying in the trial.
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So at least we have a record of it.
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I'm being asked about the alibi
and the thing is this.
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I was over-truthful and frank
with the Guards...
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..and...
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Sorry, you'll have to...
Cos this is going back
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into memory-bank dredge time.
Shall we...
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It's actually
the alibi from the night itself.
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Just what was it -Well, the thing
is,it isn't an alibi
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because an alibi
is something that can be stood up.
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And... So...
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Actually, can we cut for now
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and...have a...
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a-a-a comfort break
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-and we'll go back to that?
-Yeah.
If that's OK?
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Oh.
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Right, um, this is gonna be
pretty fucking visceral.
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This is gonna be visceral.
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As Ian Bailey
faces criminal proceedings...
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We'll go back to that...for the
murder of Sophie Toscandu Plantier,
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his solicitor tells us why he
believes this caseshould matter to
all of us.
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Welcome to Claire Byrne Live.
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Cut! You can cut.
Now that's our time.
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Er, no, a pre...a pre-recording.
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'You asked me about alibi.'
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An alibi is a phrase, a Latin
phrase,
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which means you have...
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..plausible, provable excuse.
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I... Technically, I'm a lawyer.
I know I have no alibi
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because I left her, she was snoring.
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I went down the road
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and I wrote the thing on the
typewriter.
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Came back up in the morning
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and I made you a cup of coffee.
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You did.
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And...
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Actually, I don't wanna do this now.
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Let's do it tomorrow because it's...
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-You forget the sequence.
-Yeah.
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Hello, hun. Can I get you anything?
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-What?
-I said "Hello, hun,
can I get you anything?
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-Like... No.
-No?
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Would you like
a stroke on the knee?
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A cuddle or a hug?
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A loving hug?
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I could give you...
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You're exhausted.
Could I give you a loving hug?
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All right.
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His solicitor, Frank
Buttimer, spoke to mebefore we came
on air.
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I asked him why Ian Bailey is not
attending or mounting a defence.
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It's simply because, Claire, he
doesn't recognise the validity or
justness
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of what's going on in France.
Our criminal justice system
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has determined over a long period of
time
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that he cannot and will not
be placed on trial
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in this jurisdiction in relation
to the evidence gathered.
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In the meantime, the exact same
evidence, nothing new or different.
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The French, though they have
criticised the police gathering
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of that evidence themselves,
think that it is good evidence
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upon which to put him on trial in
THEIR system.
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The basic idea here is the lack of
respectthat is being shown
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by the French to the
Irish criminal justice system.
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I have to say, regrettably, aided
and abetted
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by the Department of Justice
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by their provision to the French of
what is called 'mutual assistance'.
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Ian Bailey we know
hasn't been able to leave
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this jurisdiction for about nine
years now.
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How is he dealing with this
this week?
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He's devastated and he has been
devastated leading up to it.
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He has known that this thing is
pending in France.
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It's outside of his control.
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His life has been destroyed. He has
always protested his innocence.
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His position has been vindicated
by our DPP
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and it is just a grotesque
state of affairs -
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And you, Frank Buttimer, are
convinced of his innocence?
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-Absolutely.
-That case is ongoing and
you'll hear more about it
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on RTE News throughout the week.
Now, an overwhelming...
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Off television. Off television.
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Off television. Off.
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Instant reaction.
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I'm calm in the eye of the
hurricane.
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I'm calm in the eye
of the hurricane.
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Um... Yeah.
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Any questions?
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I thought Frank looked very tired.
241
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He's got the grey under his eyes.
242
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Fuck sake.
243
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I mean, that man... All of us...
244
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I mean, her...
245
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It's a form of torture.
246
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But you've stayed strong.
247
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For 22 years.22 years.
248
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I'm not gonna let them destroy me,
249
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but I must say that my sleep
is destroyed.
250
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My rest is... My peace within...
251
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Tranquillity...is destroyed. Yeah.
-Serenity.
-Yeah.
252
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If you haven't done anything, it
just makes you stronger in a way.
253
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-It's strange.
-Mm.
254
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It's like feeding
the flame of resilience,
255
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-being accused of something.
-Mm.
256
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May the truth... And the prayer is,
257
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may the truth emerge.
May the truth emerge.
258
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A second day of evidence
for the family of Sophie Toscan du
Plantier.
259
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The court also heard from Agnes
Thomas
260
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who'd been the victim's best friend.
261
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She said Sophie had told her that a
man in Irelandhad contacted her in
Paris
262
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in the weeks before she was killed.
263
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She said he'd described himself as a
poet
264
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and he wanted to talk to Sophie
about cultural projects.
265
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Ms Thomas said she thought
her friend might have been planning
266
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to meet this man when she was in
Cork.
267
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It was a piece of
emotionally-charged evidence,
268
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not backed up by phone records at
all.
269
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But it was emotionally-charged and I
think it had an impacton the panel
of judges.
270
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This was evidence
that wasn't given immediately,
271
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so the lady in question
said that after the killing
272
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she felt so bad that she didn't go
with Sophie on that final trip...
273
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..that she had a kind of blackout.
274
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So she forgot a lot of details
of what had happened just before
275
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but they came back later.
276
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Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course they would.
277
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-Yeah.
-Ian, is...
Ian, is
there any chanceyou made that call?
278
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No! Absolutely not.
Not a...not at all.
279
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No, it's a complete and absolute
piece of...
280
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If the implication, and it clearly
is, that it was me, as I said,
281
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that's a load of fuckin' bollocks.
Don't forget,
282
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,200
the only knowledge I have was that
Alf Lyons
283
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,800
pointed out the fact that he had a
French neighbour andshe was over.
284
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There was never any introduction
and I didn't know...you know...
285
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Never introduced. So, no, that's
-absolute nonsense.
-OK.
286
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,720
It's hard to conduct
a criminal trial from afar.
287
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,400
They read out a list of the Irish
witnesses they tried to contact
288
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,840
and each time, it came back
'not known at this address',
289
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,880
'did not reply',
290
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,520
'absent', 'deceased'.
291
00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:03,680
And even the Guards, who sent
Bailey's file over here to the
French,
292
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haven't bothered to turn up,
which is an extraordinary situation.
293
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,040
I just can't understand it.
294
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,840
The presiding judge has to read out
295
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,360
the statements made by the Guards
back in the day.
296
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:23,080
And some questions have come up that
only the Irish police can answer.
297
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,520
The gate. Now, that had blood marks
on it.
298
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,440
We know because we saw the pictures.
299
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,280
But where is that gate? Gone missing.
300
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,480
It would be nice
to find out from the Guards
301
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,280
a bit more about the lack
of DNA evidence.
302
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,960
It doesn't feel right.
303
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,400
You'd wonder if it might be tricky
for the prosecution case.
304
00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:48,560
And then, when the first witness
from Ireland arrived in the stand,
305
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,240
that in itself
was an unorthodox court appearance.
306
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,800
It seems surprising that we get
the mother of a key witness
307
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,480
that's giving evidence
on his behalf.
308
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,800
Amanda Reed told the court
her then 14-year-old son, Malachi,
309
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,120
had taken a lift home with Mr Bailey
on 4th February 1997.
310
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He said he told him
he'd gone to the victim's house
311
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and bashed her brains in
with a rock.
312
00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:21,000
-Did you say that?
-No. And I'll tell
you what, that's hearsayevidence.
313
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,520
I did pick him up,
I did give him a lift,
314
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,160
and he asked me how things were and
I said things were going well
315
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,640
until people started saying
that I had gone up the hill
316
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,680
and bashed her brains out.
And that's what I said.
317
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,120
That what you said to other people,
like Helen Callanan... Yep.
318
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,280
..they say those were confessions.
319
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,520
-Right.
-Is there a part of you that
wants to be here to say something?
320
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,240
No.
321
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,560
One of the things
that's really interesting
322
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,880
is that sarcasm, black humour,
is a British upper-class thing
323
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,600
where you're supposed to, by tone,
know that the opposite is true
324
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,480
and that really could be his undoing.
325
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,720
Then he said, "I killed her
to resurrect my career."
326
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,280
"You saw her in Spar and she
turned you on,
327
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,080
walking up the aisle with a tight
arse,
328
00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:13,800
so you went up there to see what you
could get. You chased her,
329
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,440
stoved something into the back of
her headand went further than you
meant to."
330
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,560
Ian was turning his car when he
said, "I went up with a rock
331
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,680
and bashed her fuckin' brains in."
332
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,480
'Sure, yeah, course I did. I needed
a story. This is how it happened.'
333
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,400
The rumour started to be spread
around.
334
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,440
Helen Callanan who was news editor
of the Sunday Tribune, who were
commissioning me,
335
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,680
she told me, "Ian, you know it's
being said that you murdered her."
336
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,960
I said something like, "Who's saying
this?" She said, "I can't tell you."
337
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,000
I said something like, "Sure, yeah,
course I did, I needed a story."
338
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,280
You know. And I think somebody
would have to be in a position
339
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,840
where the most outrageous allegation
had been made against them, erm,
340
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,360
to know what the position was like.
341
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,320
It was obviously one of the things I
regret now and was unwise
342
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,080
but it was my impulsive, shall we...
343
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,400
No, not impulsive cos I'm not
impulsive.
344
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,280
It was just my defensive response,
if you like.
345
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,560
Could this be
the boy who cried wolf?
346
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,960
He keeps putting himself
in the frame
347
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,560
and eventually they take him
at his word?
348
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,160
I'm looking at these two old people
349
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,880
and they're smaller than me,
which is really small...
350
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,880
Yeah...and I can only imagine that
their little daughter is smaller
than that
351
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,320
and there's a rage in me
at who killed Sophie du Plantier.
352
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,760
The only reason I'm interested in it
is a rage.
353
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,280
And have you got a rage
to find out who did it?
354
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,440
You know, I do the Lord's prayer and
I've done the Lord's prayerfor a
long time
355
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:55,400
and the hardest line in the Lord's
prayer is to forgivethose who
trespass against you.
356
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,840
And I've done that for many years
and that means
357
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,720
I don't harbour anger,
rage or negativity.
358
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,440
You know, if you want to ask how
I've managed to do that
359
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,640
I don't quite know, but I've done
it.
360
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,640
Ian, you do...you do have rage.
361
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,240
You've as big a rage as I do, if not
-more.
-Hang on, hang on a second.
362
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,160
You're explosive.
You fuckin' exploded at Jules.
363
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,320
You can't say you don't have rage.
364
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:22,680
Well, I mean,
there was then and now.
365
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,720
You know, I mean,
you know now... I don't know.
366
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,800
I'll say something about
Bailey. He put himself in the centre
of the story
367
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,840
and made it worse for the family.
368
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,880
So if he didn't do it... So, you -
369
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,440
If he didn't do it, he's at least
responsible for that.
370
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,720
The mood in court is sombre.
First thing was
371
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,880
that the presiding judge
372
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,400
read out a profile of Ian Bailey,
373
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,400
drawn up not with Bailey present,
but on the basis of documents.
374
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,160
His diary in part.
375
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,320
Poems.
376
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,720
Statements made by the Guards.
377
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,560
'"Masturbation.
Just a little gentle agitation.
378
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,600
Stops a lot of aggravation."
379
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,960
Apparently, they're readingbits and
pieces,
380
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,640
scraps and bits of information into
the evidence
381
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,000
and no-body's ever seen anything
like it.
382
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,720
I've written fuckin' books and books
and books - all taken illegally
383
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,760
that certainly, had the case
gone ahead in this country,
384
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,600
would have been rendered absolutely
inadmissible
385
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,520
and everything that would have been
inadmissible here - guess what?
386
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,480
It not only becomes admissible in
the French system,
387
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,120
but is actually classed as evidence.
388
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,480
Nobody's there to defend him
or to put a different point of view.
389
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,520
They took as a starting point...
390
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,720
..Bailey's attack on Jules Thomas.
391
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,960
"Alcohol can make him violent."
392
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,280
What they wanted to know was,
393
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,600
is this a man capable
of a very, very violent act?
394
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,920
They said that Ian Bailey
was narcissistic, impulsive,
395
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,440
egotistical and he needs recognition.
396
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,760
He takes pleasure in being
the centre of attention
and he likes to provoke.
397
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,560
The conclusion was he has a
borderline psychological disorder
398
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,600
without being psychotic.
399
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,440
They say you
always had your dick in your hand.
400
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,480
That was written in the diary.
401
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,360
Well, yeah, I mean, of course, I
write poetry with my dick, you see?
402
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,000
-You know.
-Then they basically said
that Sophie was the perfect...
403
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,560
You were attracted to her in
a mad way, she was the perfect woman
404
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,600
for you to be attracted to
405
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,840
and, erm,
406
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,880
basically you were a pervert.
407
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,400
I knew they were going to
beast me today, by the way,
408
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,520
and I knew what they were going
to do and... Yeah.
409
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,560
Demonise me, beast me,
410
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,680
make me out to be a pervert,
whatever. A sex addict or whatever.
411
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,680
Um... Well, Jim, I mean, I've always
been, you know...
412
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,000
I've always been sort of
interested in that subject
413
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,640
but I don't think I'm a pervert.
I don't think so.
414
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,000
A lot of it
was based on the diary.
415
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,120
I think they got it from there.
Right.
416
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,520
And, I mean, it's what you wrote,
isn't it?
417
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,840
How does that make you feel because
it...
418
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,920
Ha! The whole thing is a load of
bollocks.
419
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,600
No, I'm not a pervert
and, no, I'm not a murderer.
420
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,880
You know, I might be a bit eccentric
421
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,120
and if that's a crime,
well, everybody should watch out.
422
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,640
OK, OK.
423
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,520
All right, Ian. Any more?
424
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,840
We'll talk tomorrow, OK?
425
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,120
It looks like by Friday evening,
the tectonic plates of my life
426
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,440
will have shifted and I could become
a convicted murderer in France
427
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,680
and then I'll become the centre of a
fucking big shitstorm
428
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,200
to use that expression.
429
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,000
Today is the day of
reckoning.
430
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,560
We've heard the conclusions
and now the three magistrates
431
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,280
are in closed chambers
making their decision.
432
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,840
For Sophie's family, who have waited
for over two decades,
433
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,200
these few hours may be the longest
hours they've had to endure.
434
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,520
We can hope - we can hope -
435
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,160
that we have eventually...
eventually justice.
436
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,560
I feel...not good.
437
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,600
I feel...
438
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,120
I have, uh...
439
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,280
big emotion for my mother...
440
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,320
..and...
441
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,840
the truth is very important for us.
442
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,800
For her.
443
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,720
It's the morning... Is it Friday
30th May?
444
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,840
The Republic of France versus Ian
Bailey.
445
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,680
I probably knew this day was coming
for a long, long time.
446
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,960
I was hoping there might
have been an intervention.
447
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,560
I was hoping that somebody might
have stepped forward just to say,
448
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,320
"Hang on, it isn't that Ian Bailey."
449
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,880
But that's not happened.
450
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Ah, good.
451
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,320
Let's get rid of that rooster.
452
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,440
Imagine this.
453
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,480
'Say they got me. I'm 62.
454
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,080
I'm gonna spend 30 years
in a French prison.
455
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,040
And I'm told that they move you
around.
456
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,680
You don't stay in one prison,
you're constantly being shifted.
457
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,720
So you don't know where you are.
458
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,560
And other people who may want to
contact you don't know where you
are.
459
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,520
Phwoa! I have to live
with the possibility of that.'
460
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,480
Hello. We're making a film
of a rooster.
461
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,080
The rooster has become
the star of this movie.
462
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,120
Don't know how it happened.
463
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,680
I don't know. It's cos we called him
John Wayne.
464
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,200
I don't want... A situation could
arise here where if I let him go,
465
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,840
he'd be off and then there will be
a thing saying,
466
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,320
"Ian Bailey chases his cock in
Bantry Square." We don't want that.
467
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,200
Go on in there! Are you OK?
468
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,520
Oh, no, I've injured him.
469
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,560
Have I injured you? No.
470
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,360
Hello?
471
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,400
Hello?
472
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,440
Right, there he is. He's all yours.
No worse for the ordeal.
473
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,440
Ah.
474
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,360
I must say, I'm feeling remarkably
normal and calm
475
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,400
for the day that's in it.
476
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,480
I've also been informed
by my sources cos I have, erm -
477
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,840
a bit like Michael Collins,
I have a network of informants -
478
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,640
that there are people with cameras
out in Bantry today
479
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,680
out to try to photograph me.
480
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,840
Good morning. How are you?
Good morning. How are you?
481
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Hello, James! Hello, gentlemen.
482
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,920
-How are you?
-Fine. And yourself?
Oi, stop sniffin' me crotch.
483
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,720
Well, I'm sort of OK
in a strange way, you know?
484
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,400
It's D-day for me or something.
Or P-day, Paris day or something.
485
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,320
Hello!
486
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,320
Can you give us a couple of
euros' worth of small ones?
487
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,240
Erm... I don't know what it's about.
488
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:34,200
Seems like some sort
of feeding frenzy to me
489
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,440
but, don't worry,
they won't take you.
490
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,880
Would you be in a 'John Wayne state
of mind' over the trial in France?
491
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,240
Yeah, you bet I have been.
-Have you?
-Yeah.
492
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,880
How does it affect you?
Does it affect you...?
493
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,280
Look, where is this goingbecause
I'm under strict instruction.
494
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,280
Can I do a few shots of your
-head looking into the camera?
-Yeah.
495
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,720
And we'll leave you alone.
-Is that OK?
-Yeah.
496
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,760
OK, that's lovely. Thank you.
497
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,160
'The judgement is very clear.'
498
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,840
With all the elements of proof,
499
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,560
Ian Bailey
killed my mother 22 years ago.
500
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,680
'It's a victory for the justice.
It's a victory for the truth.'
501
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,440
So...
502
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,440
..we are...we are happy.
503
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,520
We are...
504
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,840
..at peace here.
Thank you very much.
505
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,560
It looks like a weight has been
lifted
506
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,480
off the French family's shoulders
507
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,920
and now I've got to go
and place it on somebody else's
508
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,200
before he hears it on the radio.
509
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,200
Hello. Bailey.
510
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,480
Yeah, oui.
-Erm, fire.
511
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,280
It's what you expected.
-It was guilty.
-Mm-hm.
512
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,280
Er... I think they said 25 years.
513
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,360
Oh, I was...
Sorry, I'm disappointed.
514
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,400
I was expecting 40, but never mind.
515
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,920
Yeah. I'll give you to Nick who
-took down a lot of the details.
-OK.
516
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:52,040
If you want to hear it -
No, I do. No, Jim, no.
517
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,720
Jim, I don't want to hear the detail
-now.
-You've given me the headlines
518
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,960
and that's good enough for me.
Jules is just coming over.
519
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,800
Maybe pull up a chair or...
520
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,320
Just reshuffling. And...
521
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,600
I think if you were able
to tell her what, you know...
522
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,760
Do you want a cushion or two?
You sure? OK.
523
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,160
Erm, speakerphone.
524
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,200
You. Yeah. Can -
525
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,240
-Hi, Frank.
-No, it's...it's... Oh,
Jim.
Oh, sorry, Jim.
526
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,320
Yes, it's Jim, Jules. How are ya?
I'm OK, Jim.
527
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,960
They did a long, long summation
528
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,040
in which basically they
accepted Marie Farrell's evidence.
529
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,600
-Huh!
-No statement over, kind of, her
evidence.
530
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,280
Every statement Ian made
as a confession.
531
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,680
We expected that.
We did expect that.
532
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,320
It was predictable andwe're not
surprised.
533
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,480
-Yeah.
-Does that sound a bit strange
534
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,680
that I'm not crying
or beating my chest? But...
535
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:59,040
I think, um... Are we going to tell
the world that you'll stand by Ian
536
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,280
and say it's all a load of lies?
-Oh, yeah, I would.
-Yeah.
537
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,720
-I do. I always have.
-Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
538
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,120
-Yeah.
-It's um... All right.
539
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,800
What I would like to say is
all they've succeeded in doing
540
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,760
is convicting
a completely innocent person
541
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,920
of a crime he had nothing
to do with.
542
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,480
I'm sorry for their pain.
I'm sorry for their suffering.
543
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,840
I'm sorry about all the lies
that they've chosen to believe
544
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,000
and I'm sorry for their suffering
but the thing is this,
545
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,160
there are no winners in this,
only losers -
546
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,120
of a war of twisted words
and corrupted statements.
547
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,440
And I'm aware that they chose
to believe
548
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,040
the web of engrangements
woven by devils.
549
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,200
I'm sorry for them
550
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:43,400
and, you know,
we're tough and there we are.
551
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,920
All right.
I did tell you this a long time ago
552
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,240
that I thought, looking forward -I
know.
553
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,120
Everything you've said
has been realised. Absolutely.
554
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,960
So it's not a surprise -
I mean, you know. God.
555
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,800
There are people out there who know,
556
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,800
who know who murdered that woman.
557
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,840
And I can't believe that they can
actually live with what's going on.
558
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,880
I can't believe it.
559
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,960
Never gives up, this man.
Ah, for fuck sake.
560
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,160
I'm a dead man walking.
561
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,040
French authorities will now seek
562
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,560
Ian Bailey's extradition
for a third time.
563
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,560
Today everybody must
know and understand
564
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,440
that Ian Bailey is a murderer.
565
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,440
That label is not new one for Bailey
but it has new power.
566
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,600
Whatever happens now,
Ian Bailey will be considered
567
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,120
the man who killed
Sophie Toscan du Plantier.
568
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,760
But was he ever going to shake
that title anyway?
569
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,400
How we build stories,
570
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,040
how justice systems
build court cases fascinates me.
571
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,840
Without scientific proof,
with retracted statements,
572
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,920
with absent witnesses
and no interrogation of the facts,
573
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,960
the French have proved him guilty.
574
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,560
Is he capable of murder?
Aren't we all?
575
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,800
Is he guilty? I don't know.
576
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,480
I don't think we can say for sure.
577
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,920
Is it possible that Ian Bailey
never came here to this retreat
578
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,160
at the side of a lonely hill
579
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,320
under the blinking eye
of the Fastnet lighthouse?
580
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,440
Is it possible
that he will soon be on a plane
581
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,160
to meet a fate
that was never rightfully his?
582
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,840
And if it was not Ian Bailey
here that night,
583
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,240
there's no-one out there looking
for the man who left no trace.
584
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,920
Come on then. There you go.
585
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,280
Hello.
586
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,480
It's been like
waiting for the tsunami wave
587
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,680
that you knew was gonna come.
588
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,040
This morning and yesterday morning,
I woke up with anxiety in me.
589
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,840
I'm going to assume
that at some point in the future,
590
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,520
probably in the course of the next
year possibly, rather thanearlier,
591
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,520
I am going to be handed over
to the French.
592
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,800
So it's pretty fucking dark.
593
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,560
On 16th December, Ian Bailey's
594
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,000
third European arrest warrant
was endorsed by the Irish courts.
595
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,920
He was arrested.
He managed to get bail.
596
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,720
While out on bail, he instructed
his solicitor, Frank Buttimer,
597
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,120
to appeal the extradition.
598
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,560
With his fate now looming,
for the last eight months
599
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,200
he's been waiting for
the extradition appeal to be heard
600
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:24,520
in the Courts of Criminal Justice
by a High Court judge.
601
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,400
Ian Bailey should
not be extradited to France
602
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,280
to serve a 25-year prison sentence
603
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,160
for the murder of Sophie Toscan du
Plantier, the High Court has ruled.
604
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,120
Good afternoon,
ladies and gentlemen.
605
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,000
I'm going to say a brief few words
on behalf of Mr Bailey.
606
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,960
The first thing to say is that Mr
Baileyis extremely relieved at the
decision made today.
607
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,920
The impact on his life
of the entire situation
608
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,240
has been extremely challenging
for him for the past 24 years.
609
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:09,680
He always expresses his sadness
and his sympathy for the family
610
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:11,920
of the late
Madame Toscan du Plantier,
611
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,880
whilst at the same time
always maintaining his innocence
612
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,720
in relation to anything or any
connectionwith that dreadful crime.
613
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,240
Mr Bailey intends to return
to West Cork
614
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,680
to attempt to get on with the rest
of his lifeas best he can,
615
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:30,240
subject to any other decision
that is made
616
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,040
by the state in relation
to any appeal entitlement.
617
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,360
Thank you very much.
Mr Bailey.
618
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,480
Mr Bailey has decided to reserve his
position at this time.
619
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,320
He may comment at a future date.
Thank you.
620
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,600
We set out in search of justice
and what are we left with?
621
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:14,160
Broken hearts,
622
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,680
damaged people, damaged communities,
unmet grief,
623
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:20,480
unanswered questions.
624
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,520
It's like a Shakespeare tragedy...
625
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,360
..where
there's no winners at the end,
626
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,800
only broken shells of people.
627
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,160
Sophie's family...
628
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,880
..are consumed by anger and sadness.
629
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,840
Can't find their way out.
630
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,360
Their daughter's death unavenged.
631
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,360
A sentence handed out
but not endorsed.
632
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:58,600
They remain convinced that the man
who murdered their daughter is free.
633
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,560
And no matter what way
you look at it, that's the truth.
634
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,000
And what about Ian Bailey?
Innocent or guilty?
635
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,080
He's had a quarter of a century
of a life sentence -
636
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,760
on remand in the prairie,
unable to leave the country.
637
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,360
How can you be a guilty man
in France and a free man in Ireland?
638
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,040
Can somebody explain that to me?
639
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,320
There are two crimes here.
640
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,760
There's the murder
and there's the lack of justice.
641
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,560
Is it 24 or 25 years?
I've lost track of the years.
642
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,560
It's almost half my life
since a false accusation
643
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,120
was made against me
which completely changed my life
644
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,160
and what it might have been.
645
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,720
So, I don't know.
I've just been really, really flat.
646
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,480
Um... I've got no sort of
sense of victory
647
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,520
or, you know, um...
648
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,720
No great
sort of sense of relief even.
649
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,520
I just wonder why, uh, I'm...
650
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,480
I think because for so many years,
651
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,600
my life and my job was to fight as
best I could.
652
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,120
I guess it's a combination
of fear and determination
653
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,160
that sort of held me together.
654
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,480
And...all of a sudden,
655
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,360
I need, um... I need to reinvent
myself, I guess.
656
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:23,360
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