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Larry King:
If there is a true legend,
it's Ted Turner.
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Jane Fonda:
An American hero,
bigger than life.
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speaker 1:
He's an erratic genius.
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Bono:
The man is way more
rock-and-roll than I am.
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Bold and frequently
controversial.
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Ted Koppel:
They called him
"the Mouth from the South."
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Ted Turner:
Bull (bleep)! If people
are doing something
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that hurts
all the rest of us,
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then they shouldn't
be doing it!
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Christiane Amanpour:
He believed way early
in saving the climate.
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Ted Turner:
I'm willing to risk everything.
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speaker 2:
In a move that drew criticism,
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Turner accepted an invitation
to go to Cuba.
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Diane Sawyer:
Can you trust him?
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Ted Turner: He trusted me.
He gave me a loaded gun.
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I could've shot him
very easily.
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speaker 3: Ted is a guy
who would bet the farm.
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Ted Turner:
You got enough brains
to save up
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11 million bucks to buy it,
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then you oughta be able
to have enough brains
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to go down there
and run it, right?
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Ronald Reagan:
It's a great honor for me
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to be here with you today
to open the Goodwill Games.
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speaker 4:
He's Captain Courageous.
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Ted Turner:
I said to the crew, I said,
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"20 people are
gonna die tonight."
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(thunder crashes)
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Ted Turner, the well-known
American yachtsman, is missing.
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Ted Turner:
Who thought the world
needed 24/7 news? I did.
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We had no employees,
no set, no equipment.
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- The satellite blew up.
- (explosion blasts)
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speaker 5: Clearly,
I've never been there,
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but it feels like
we're in the center of Hell.
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(stock market bell ringing)
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Morley Safer:
His marriage was breaking up.
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speaker 6:
The pressure was excruciating.
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Terry McGuirk:
This is the fight of his life.
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speaker 7:
You know you changed the world?
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Ted Turner:
Yeah, I know.
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And I didn't know what I
was gonna talk about,
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until now.
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(laughter)
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(TV static)
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I'm gonna say
some things today
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that I have never said
in public before.
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(film reel rattling, glitching)
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(typing)
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Basically, I just did
the best that I could.
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You know, I, I did the best that
I could in my life. It's--
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And, and, and really,
you can't really fault someone
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who really tried
to do the best they could.
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You know, that's--
you know,
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what more can you
ask of somebody
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than, uh, than that?
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I loved hunting and fishing,
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and I mean, I've got--
I've got 50 guns.
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You know, so, I mean, I,
I believe in, uh,
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the right to bear arms
up to the teeth.
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He did not let on
about that night.
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(insects chirping)
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(typing)
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(somber music playing)
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(insects chirping)
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♪
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What haunted my dad
was that his father
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didn't love him enough
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to avoid putting him
through the pain and the damage
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that he did to Dad
for his whole life
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by taking his life
like that.
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(echoing gunshot)
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Ted Turner:
I try to think about the things
I was thankful for,
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especially my family.
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In my mind,
almost like a slideshow,
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I start with Laura
and picture her
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and her husband,
then their kids.
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Then, I'd go to Teddy,
the next oldest,
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and to the same with him
and his family.
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Once I'd worked
through Rhett, Beau,
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Jennie, and their children,
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I'd go back
in the reverse direction.
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Picturing my family
helped calm me
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and cleared
my head of worries.
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(birds chirping)
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He couldn't hurt us
like his father had hurt him.
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Well, thinking about
how he would damage...
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the kids, the grandkids,
you know?
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I do know that he,
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he had a therapist,
you know, for years,
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and I think the therapist said,
you know,
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"Ted,
you've gotta just focus on
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"what you're grateful for
because you've got--
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As much as you've lost,
you have so much to live for."
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I just always considered
Ted a survivor,
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and somebody
who could never do it, really,
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because he,
he really did love life.
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Alan Horn:
He told me at one point,
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I was at his ranch, I think,
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and I said, uh,
"How are you?"
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And he said, "Look,
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"before the AOL merger,
I was worth $11 billion,
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and now, I'm worth two,"
he said.
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I know no one's
gonna feel sorry
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for a person who's worth
a couple of billion dollars.
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But, it was 11.
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It wasn't like, "Oh, gee,
now I can't buy such and such,"
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or, "I can't acquire--
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you know,
buy an island somewhere."
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It wasn't about--
it wasn't about that.
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It was about the opportunity
that he would have lost,
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or that he did lose,
by not having
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the kind of resources
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that would enable him to, um,
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change the world.
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I decided that what
would be really exciting to do,
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donate a billion dollars
to the UN causes myself.
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Taylor Glover:
Ted said to me,
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"I wanna make sure I make up
on all my commitments."
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And I think we had
about $800 million
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worth of those commitments left
on that billion-dollar pledge.
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And so, the obligation
was for $100 million a year.
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- We basically did
$25 million a quarter.
- (cash register dings)
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And interest rates
were sort of high back then.
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And we invested in US Treasury
zero coupon bonds
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to mature on every date
that we had an obligation.
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If something happened to him,
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it was done, it was over,
and it was honored.
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And we did that,
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we made sure all of the
commitments were honored,
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and then we went about our
business with what we had left.
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(explosion booms)
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newsreel narrator 1:
This is the Nuclear Age.
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The age of the always present
threat of instant
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and total annihilation.
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A few people laughed.
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(bomb rumbling fades out)
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A few people cried.
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Most people were silent.
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(sniffles)
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I remembered the line
from the Hindu scripture,
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the Bhagavad Gita,
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"Now I am become death,
the destroyer of worlds."
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I suppose we all thought that,
one way or another.
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- (plane rumbling)
- newsreel narrator 2: 8:15,
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on the morning
of August 6th, 1945,
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a single plane
carrying a single bomb
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opened the age
we now live in.
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(explosion booms)
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- (typing)
- (wind blowing)
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(typing continues)
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Sam Nunn:
Einstein said,
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"I know not with what weapons
World War III will be fought,
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"but I'm confident World War IV
will be fought
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with sticks and stones."
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It's with great hope
and anticipation
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that we address you today
about the initiative
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that Senator Nunn and I
are launching.
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The Nuclear Threat Initiative
is the product
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of months of discussions
and consultations
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with dozens of the world's
most respected security experts.
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The threat that we face
from nuclear weapons
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and other weapons
of mass destruction is real.
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Like everyone else,
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we thought that
when the Cold War ended,
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we no longer had to worry
about nuclear annihilation.
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In many ways,
the threat has become
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more complex and dangerous.
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In addition to the risk
of nuclear exchange,
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we now have serious
and urgent concerns
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about the security of weapons
and bomb-making materials.
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We are threatened by the risk of
proliferation of these weapons.
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Senator Nunn has agreed
to join me in these efforts,
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and we are proud to announce
that he has accepted
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the position of co-chairman
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of the Nuclear
Threat Initiative.
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We can think of no better person
to lead this effort.
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Senator Nunn, as we all know,
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is one of the world's
most respected security experts.
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The initiative
Ted has asked me to lead,
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which we're calling
the Nuclear Threat Initiative,
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is committed to the mission
of strengthening global security
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by reducing the risk of nuclear
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and other weapons
of mass destruction
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and by preventing their spread.
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Since the dissolution
of the Soviet Union in 1991,
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the world has faced a challenge
without precedent in history.
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The collapse of an empire
containing thousands of nuclear,
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chemical, and biological weapons
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and thousands of tons
of the materials needed
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to make additional such weapons.
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In addition, tens of thousands
of scientists and engineers
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who know how to
make these weapons
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have a very hard time
figuring out
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how they're going to provide
the basic necessities
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for their families.
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Ted has been very generous
in assuring us
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that, uh, we will have a floor,
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a minimum of at least
$50 million a year
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for the next five years.
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And I--
he is a man of his word.
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We're not trying to lock him up
in a legal contract
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where we immediately sue if
we get one penny less than that.
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Uh, that's not the nature
of the relationship.
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I believe him. I trust him.
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Uh, he is absolutely dedicated
to this purpose,
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and I'm sure that we will have
that kind of budget.
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Uh, I'm sure that
he also watches, uh,
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his holdings on
the stock market,
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uh, every now and then
in determining his philanthropy,
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and we can all hope that, uh,
Time Warner and AOL
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- do well in the future.
And I, I think--
- (laughter)
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(shutters snapping)
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And the 250 million,
long story short,
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we were given the stock when
it was $50 a share, as I recall,
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and it went down to $10 a share.
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(stock market bell ringing)
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So, he put up 250 million,
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became worth about 75 million,
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and, um,
uh, that lasted us long enough
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to get other, uh,
contributors to really come,
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come to the table,
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including, most significantly,
Warren Buffett.
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Ted's a believer.
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He believes he can stop
nuclear proliferation.
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He believes he can do something
to impact global warming.
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I mean, this is a guy
who really believes
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he can make a difference.
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And that is so unusual
in this world.
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And he does it
with integrity.
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So, I-I think that's--
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that's what
makes him so unique.
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I never got the network
here in the United States
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that I wanted,
one of the major networks,
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but I'm very close
to getting one in Russia.
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You know, so--
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- And I'll just
move over there, goddammit.
- (laughter)
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And I'll keep on truckin'
because Russia needs me
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a lot more than
the United States does anyway.
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John Malone:
Well, I know later on,
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he had two TV stations
over there that,
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that followed the breakdown
of the Soviet Union.
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And I-- uh...
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I believe one of them,
curiously enough,
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was, uh, was with Putin
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in St. Petersburg.
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And I don't know
the exact timing on this,
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but, but it says,
Putin took on the oligarchs,
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you know, one of which was
Vladimir Kaczynski.
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Uh, he reached out to Ted
to purchase NTV,
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and he was being forced to sell,
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and Ted dispatched me
over there to negotiate.
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And it was interesting
because, uh,
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my negotiations were...
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uh...
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with Gazprom.
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I remember when
I was on the Cato board,
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uh, they had some
free enterprise gathering,
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and Putin
made the comment of, uh--
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somebody went up
to him and said,
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"You know,
freedom of the press
is an important part
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of a capitalist society."
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And Putin said, uh,
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"Well,
it hasn't hurt the Chinese any."
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The absence of freedom
of the press, so...
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I kinda had concluded
when I did leave that, uh,
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they had all the cards,
and I had none. (laughs)
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I was hold--
I was holding a poor hand,
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and it was time for me to leave.
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And it was, uh, actually the
last time I'd been to Russia.
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But, I know that, uh, Russia
became a pretty dangerous place,
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and I think Ted eventually
decided to pull out.
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Jimmy Brown:
When we was kids,
I mean...
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I mean, going to
elementary school and all,
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I mean, uh, we had to, uh,
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we had to come home
in the afternoon,
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cut the wood,
get the water.
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You know, we didn't
have running water.
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We didn't have all
that kind of stuff, you know.
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And Jimmy came to me
and he says,
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"I got some stock.
I want you to help me
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figure out
what to do with it."
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I said, "Good, Jimmy.
Come on by the office."
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So, he came up to see me,
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and he presented
these stock certificates,
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old stock certificates.
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I said, "Where'd you
get these, Jimmy?"
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And he said,
"Well, I loaned Ted
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- $10,000."
- (cash register dings)
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And I said, "Wow, let me
figure out what this is worth."
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- It was worth well over
a million, closer to two.
- (cash register dinging)
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And I said, "Jimmy,
this is great." I said,
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"This is like
a rags-to-riches story.
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"This is,
this is really phenomenal.
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Your friendship has, has created
this amount of wealth for you."
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And Jimmy said,
"You don't understand."
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He said, "When I,
when I loaned this to Ted,
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He was broke."
(laughs) He said,
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"I didn't expect
to get anything back.
I-I risked this money."
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And I said,
"Well, you're right.
You, you deserve it."
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And he says, "When I'm gone,
I wanna leave it
to a foundation."
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And he said,
"I want to educate
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"one white kid
and one Black kid
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and rotate back and forth."
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And I said,
"Man, that's-- let me get you
in touch with a lawyer.
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That's just great, Jimmy."
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He was really
Ted's closest friend
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or, you know, just closest...
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I don't know what
to call Jimmy.
He was everything.
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He was great.
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(player yelling in Maori)
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presenter 1:
Cappy Pongia doing the haka.
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(crowd cheering)
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(slapping)
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(chanting in Maori)
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(team joins in)
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(chanting continues)
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(beating palms)
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(chanting continues)
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- (chanting stops)
- (crowd cheering)
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presenter 1:
Well, don't the crowd love it?
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presenter 2:
That is good stuff, isn't it?
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presenter 1:
The Kiwis laying down
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the traditional
Maori challenge.
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(triumphant music playing)
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Ted Turner:
At the end of August,
I flew to Brisbane, Australia,
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for our 5th Summer
Goodwill Games.
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And as our coverage of
the Goodwill Games continues
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here at (indistinct) Beach,
I'm Ernie Johnson,
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joined by the guy who
created the Goodwill Games,
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- Ted Turner.
Good to see you again.
- Great to see you.
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What was the decision-making
process that said,
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- "Hey, let's go to Australia"?
- Well,
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- part of it was money.
- (Ernie laughs)
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- I'm stunned.
- (both laugh)
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The burning question
on everybody's mind,
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the future of
the Goodwill Games.
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Well, it's, uh,
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it's-it's really too early,
too early to say.
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The top management
at AOL Time Warner
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i-is not gonna make
a final decision
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until they, uh,
see the results of the--
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results of the games.
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Are you trying
to sell them on it?
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Well, of course.
I've-- You know,
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I've been a great believer
in the Goodwill Games.
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- (birds chirping)
- (snake softly hissing)
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I can hold a snake.
You know, it's no big deal.
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It's... kinda... scary.
(laughs)
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But if you've handled one snake,
you've handled them all.
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And you have in the course
of your career, I would imagine.
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- Well, thank you, Ernie.
- (chuckles) Alright.
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- It's a real pleasure.
- It's been great to
see you again.
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Thank you so much
for spending some time here,
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and here's a photo opportunity
for the ages.
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(triumphant music playing)
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Ted Turner:
As I made the long flight
back to Atlanta,
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I tried to rest,
reflecting on
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all that had happened
over the past 20 months.
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But, on that evening
of September 9th, 2001,
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I tried to convince myself
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that things
could only get better.
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Carol Lin:
It is 8 a.m.
in Salisbury, North Carolina,
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7 a.m. in Chicago,
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5 a.m. in Calaveras County,
California,
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where the news is being made
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on this Tuesday,
September 11th.
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From CNN Center in Atlanta,
this is CNN Live At Daybreak.
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- Good morning,
I'm Vince Cellini.
- And I'm Carol Lin.
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Ted Turner:
On the morning of
September 11th, 2001,
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I was in my CNN Center office
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with my television
tuned in to CNN.
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- director: Camera two.
- Carol Lin: Yeah.
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This just in,
you are looking at, obviously,
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a very disturbing
live shot there.
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That is the World Trade Center,
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and we have unconfirmed reports
this morning
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that a plane has crashed
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into one of the towers
of the World Trade Center.
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CNN Center right now is just
beginning to work on this story.
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Ted Turner:
CNN began showing
images of smoke
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coming out of one of the
World Trade Center towers.
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The initial report said
it might have been
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a small plane accident.
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Vince Cellini:
Well, you can see these pictures
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it's obviously, uh,
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something devastating
has happened.
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And again,
unconfirmed report
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that a plane has crashed
into one of the towers there.
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We are efforting more
information on this subject
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as it becomes
available to you.
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Ted Turner:
I had trouble understanding
how a crash like that
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could happen
in downtown Manhattan.
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- reporter: People
are running, hold on.
- anchor: Hold on just a moment.
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We got an explosion inside the--
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reporter:
The building's exploding
right now!
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- You got people running
up the street!
- anchor: Okay--
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reporter:
I don't know what
the hell is going on!
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Ted Turner:
Then I saw on my monitor
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another plane go
into the second tower
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and instantly thought,
we're at war.
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anchor:
One of our producers said
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perhaps a second plane
was involved.
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Ted Turner:
I felt like I was watching
Pearl Harbor live.
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(indistinct frenzied chatter)
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I immediately went downstairs
to the CNN studios
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to offer what support
and encouragement that I could.
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I ran into Walter Isaacson,
who had replaced Tom Johnson
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as the CEO of CNN,
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and suggested that he should
put the regular CNN feed
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on Headline News as well.
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- Are we running this
on all the network?
- Yeah.
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(overlapping chatter)
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- Override Headline News, and--
- Walter Isaacson: We did.
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Headline is going with it,
but also Airport
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- is going with the--
- Ted Turner: Good, absolutely.
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Isaacson:
Yeah, Airport's on his
post tonight, so we will--
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That's good.
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What do you think about
the entertainment report?
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Isaacson:
Uh, I don't think
it's necessary.
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I think every, you know,
I think there are 12 networks
now running this,
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- and I just don't--
- Ted Turner: Right,
I-I know there's enough.
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I just--
It's just a thought.
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- It was an airplane--
- Right.
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Um, the State Department's
on fire, and, um--
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Ted Turner:
How the fire started there?
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(indistinct overlapping chatter)
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00:19:04,894 --> 00:19:06,603
Has anything else
happened in New York?
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Is there another fire?
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One of the Twin Towers
fell over.
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Ted Turner:
One of the towers fell?!
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staff member:
About from the point
where it was hit, so--
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The smoke--
Oh, that's what--
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that's why
the smoke's on the--
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- No! God, the--
- And we have some people,
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CNN people,
who are unaccounted for
who may have been hit
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- by the building collapse.
- Excuse me.
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They, they were down
there in the street?
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00:19:28,168 --> 00:19:30,836
(indistinct overlapping chatter)
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Well, you know, I,
I wonder if this gonna be
any bigger than this?
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- It could--
- Could be.
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Who could do this?
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There are any number
of terrorist groups because--
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No country would dare do it.
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- I mean...
- You're right.
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- ...the nuclear response.
- Right.
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I mean, we could blow 'em
off the face of the earth.
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- It's gotta be
a terrorist group.
- Yes, sir.
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00:19:48,938 --> 00:19:50,607
- Like the Taliban
or something.
- Yes, sir.
448
00:19:50,607 --> 00:19:53,650
But, it's gotta be a big one.
I mean, pretty big, right?
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- Absolutely.
- This is a gigantic operation,
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- and we had no inkling
of it, right?
- No.
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- Was there any warning at all?
- No, sir.
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- No rumors or...?
- No, sir.
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00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:05,580
(overlapping chatter)
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speaker:
Jody? Who was the mayor during
the World Trade Center bombing?
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He was a former--
He was a former deputy mayor.
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(overlapping chatter)
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00:20:18,426 --> 00:20:21,220
Jody: Randy Mastro.
Randy Mastro, the Deputy Mastro.
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(rumbling)
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reporter 1:
There has just been
a huge explosion.
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We can see, uh,
a billowing smoke rising.
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There was a cascade
of sparks and fire
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and now, this--
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It looks almost like
a mushroom cloud explosion.
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It's huge.
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And I, you know,
I cannot see behind that smoke,
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obviously, as you can't either.
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The first tower in front
has not changed.
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And we see this extraordinarily
and frightening scene
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behind us of
this second tower
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now just encased in smoke.
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Reports now of major fire
at the Pentagon
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and that the Pentagon
is being evacuated.
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reporter 2:
Capitol building
has been evacuated.
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reporter 3:
We're told that there was
a credible threat
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on the White House as well.
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reporter 4:
The White House
is being evacuated.
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reporter 5:
And the Treasury Department
has been evacuated,
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striking at the heart
of the national government.
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reporter 6:
All airports
across the country,
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every airport
in the United States,
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has been shut down.
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A report now, it was a plane
that crashed into the Pentagon.
483
00:21:21,698 --> 00:21:24,575
As the FAA and the government
tries to figure out
484
00:21:24,576 --> 00:21:26,452
exactly what has happened,
485
00:21:26,453 --> 00:21:29,621
what is at risk,
who is behind it,
486
00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:32,207
are there more attacks
yet to come?
487
00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:34,209
- (distant rumble)
- And there, as you can see,
488
00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:36,754
perhaps the second tower,
the front tower,
489
00:21:36,755 --> 00:21:39,131
the top portion
of which is collapsing.
490
00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:41,550
(rumbling)
491
00:21:41,551 --> 00:21:43,094
Good Lord.
492
00:21:48,099 --> 00:21:50,226
There are no words.
493
00:21:50,226 --> 00:21:52,227
You can see large pieces
of the building falling.
494
00:21:52,228 --> 00:21:54,647
You can see
the smoke rising.
495
00:21:55,690 --> 00:21:59,234
You can see a portion of the,
the side of the building now
496
00:21:59,235 --> 00:22:00,903
just being covered,
on the right side,
497
00:22:00,904 --> 00:22:03,698
as I look at it,
covered in smoke.
498
00:22:04,574 --> 00:22:09,078
This is just a horrific scene
and a horrific moment.
499
00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:10,954
(distant sirens)
500
00:22:10,955 --> 00:22:12,915
The president,
who was in Florida today,
501
00:22:12,916 --> 00:22:14,583
is en route back
to the White House.
502
00:22:14,584 --> 00:22:16,585
He took off a short time ago.
503
00:22:16,586 --> 00:22:18,462
The White House itself
has been evacuated
504
00:22:18,463 --> 00:22:20,757
on the basis of what
the Secret Service says
505
00:22:20,757 --> 00:22:24,593
was a credible threat
on the mansion itself.
506
00:22:24,594 --> 00:22:26,095
(siren whooping)
507
00:22:26,096 --> 00:22:28,931
We believe now that
we can say that both,
508
00:22:28,932 --> 00:22:31,183
that portions of both towers
509
00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:33,811
of the World Trade Center
have collapsed.
510
00:22:33,812 --> 00:22:36,105
staff member 1 (on phone):
We saw most of
the senior staff come out.
511
00:22:36,106 --> 00:22:37,773
We have not seen the
security staff
512
00:22:37,774 --> 00:22:39,943
that we would recognize,
anyway, but...
513
00:22:39,943 --> 00:22:44,239
- (sirens blaring)
- (overlapping chatter)
514
00:22:45,281 --> 00:22:46,490
staff member 2:
Do it now! Do it now.
515
00:22:46,491 --> 00:22:49,536
(chaotic chatter continues)
516
00:22:51,705 --> 00:22:54,290
(overlapping chatter)
517
00:22:54,290 --> 00:22:56,625
- No, we don't. We do not.
- staff member 3:
Seems like you're better now?
518
00:22:56,626 --> 00:22:58,877
staff member (on phone):
People began yelling,
"Run, run."
519
00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:02,131
Make sure you heard
about that plane in the air!
520
00:23:02,132 --> 00:23:05,676
We got a guy who says there's
another plane in the air in DC.
521
00:23:05,677 --> 00:23:07,636
staff member 4:
I got it! We got it. We got it.
522
00:23:07,637 --> 00:23:10,055
We see helicopters
circling the area.
523
00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:12,516
dispatch (on phone):
United 9-3, have you got
information on that yet?
524
00:23:12,517 --> 00:23:13,726
caller (on phone):
Yeah, he's down.
525
00:23:13,727 --> 00:23:15,394
- dispatch: He's down?
- caller: Yes.
526
00:23:15,395 --> 00:23:17,355
- dispatch: When did he land?
- caller: He did not land!
527
00:23:17,731 --> 00:23:20,816
- dispatch: Oh, he's down-down?
- caller: Yes, somewhere up
northeast of Camp David.
528
00:23:20,817 --> 00:23:24,153
reporter (on TV):
...has crashed in Pennsylvania.
Now, I don't--
529
00:23:24,154 --> 00:23:25,237
(audio cuts)
530
00:23:25,238 --> 00:23:27,656
(indistinct chatter
in control room)
531
00:23:27,657 --> 00:23:29,491
Ted Turner:
The plane didn't--
and the pilots,
532
00:23:29,492 --> 00:23:31,994
- didn't turn it
over to terrorists.
- Right.
533
00:23:31,995 --> 00:23:35,497
(overlapping indistinct chatter)
534
00:23:35,498 --> 00:23:38,917
staff member:
Alright, alright. Mike. Mike?
535
00:23:38,918 --> 00:23:41,837
Ted Turner:
Now, but we're pretty north
even as it is. Yeah.
536
00:23:41,838 --> 00:23:44,883
(chatter becomes
slightly muffled)
537
00:23:51,765 --> 00:23:53,557
reporter (on monitor):
...has now been evacuated...
538
00:23:53,558 --> 00:23:57,227
Ted Turner:
As tragic as those events were,
539
00:23:57,228 --> 00:23:59,938
it was gratifying
to once again see
540
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:03,192
CNN performing
at such a high level
541
00:24:03,193 --> 00:24:05,194
and at such
a critical moment.
542
00:24:05,195 --> 00:24:06,945
Debbie Masterson:
His good ideas didn't stop
543
00:24:06,946 --> 00:24:11,033
just because he-- his name
wasn't on some org chart
544
00:24:11,034 --> 00:24:12,368
or, you know,
545
00:24:12,369 --> 00:24:14,203
he didn't officially
have that responsibility.
546
00:24:14,204 --> 00:24:17,373
The, you know, the passion
and the caring was there.
547
00:24:17,374 --> 00:24:19,417
- (overlapping chatter)
- (phones ringing)
548
00:24:22,253 --> 00:24:24,798
Ted Turner:
CNN didn't report
to me anymore,
549
00:24:25,423 --> 00:24:29,386
and it was a strange feeling
to be on the outside
550
00:24:29,386 --> 00:24:32,805
looking in at this company
551
00:24:32,806 --> 00:24:34,932
that I had helped create.
552
00:24:34,933 --> 00:24:38,644
Horn:
I can't imagine
what it was like for Ted
553
00:24:38,645 --> 00:24:41,480
to have created CNN,
554
00:24:41,481 --> 00:24:43,565
it was his brainchild,
555
00:24:43,566 --> 00:24:46,819
have it flourish, sell it,
556
00:24:46,820 --> 00:24:50,156
and then somehow
be out of the picture
557
00:24:51,324 --> 00:24:55,119
as he's directing something
like coverage of 9/11.
558
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,079
I can't even imagine this.
559
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,165
Here's a guy who had
a global platform
560
00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:03,460
with great respect,
great respect,
561
00:25:03,461 --> 00:25:05,130
who could have used it
562
00:25:06,131 --> 00:25:08,674
to inform,
educate people
563
00:25:08,675 --> 00:25:10,759
about issues that
really critically,
564
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,344
I mean, in his mind,
565
00:25:12,345 --> 00:25:14,513
critically important
for the future.
566
00:25:14,514 --> 00:25:16,181
And it was snuffed out.
567
00:25:16,182 --> 00:25:18,268
It was,
it was taken away from him.
568
00:25:18,268 --> 00:25:20,687
(control room chatter swells,
stops abruptly)
569
00:25:23,148 --> 00:25:26,443
I retired in '01
when we did the AOL merger.
570
00:25:27,027 --> 00:25:29,403
Then I stepped in a year,
a year-and-a-half later,
571
00:25:29,404 --> 00:25:31,114
and started running
the Braves day to day.
572
00:25:31,656 --> 00:25:34,074
You know, I'll always
be thankful for the faith
573
00:25:34,075 --> 00:25:38,328
he put in me to allow him
to be able to depend on me.
574
00:25:38,329 --> 00:25:41,790
And, uh, so, we,
we had a great partnership
575
00:25:41,791 --> 00:25:43,668
through all of that period.
576
00:25:45,337 --> 00:25:47,130
I have made a judgment,
577
00:25:47,130 --> 00:25:48,964
which I,
I believe to be correct,
578
00:25:48,965 --> 00:25:50,466
that going forward,
579
00:25:50,467 --> 00:25:53,469
the Time Warner shareholders
will be ex-- much better off
580
00:25:53,470 --> 00:25:56,555
owning 45% of AOL Time Warner
581
00:25:56,556 --> 00:25:58,849
- than 100% of Time Warner.
- (camera shutters snapping)
582
00:25:58,850 --> 00:26:00,809
Ted Turner:
After months of
portraying our company
583
00:26:00,810 --> 00:26:02,644
as nearly invincible,
584
00:26:02,645 --> 00:26:03,854
in late September,
585
00:26:03,855 --> 00:26:07,149
Jerry and Steve
confessed to investors
586
00:26:07,150 --> 00:26:08,859
that they weren't going
to make the numbers
587
00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:10,652
for the third quarter.
588
00:26:10,653 --> 00:26:12,196
The market responded,
589
00:26:12,197 --> 00:26:14,907
driving the stock down
to a new low.
590
00:26:14,908 --> 00:26:17,659
I don't think Ted was
necessarily seeking revenge.
591
00:26:17,660 --> 00:26:21,538
He saw an opportunity
at one point to remove Levin.
592
00:26:21,539 --> 00:26:25,542
Ted Turner:
When I requested updates
or reports on corporate issues,
593
00:26:25,543 --> 00:26:28,295
I rarely got what I asked for.
594
00:26:28,296 --> 00:26:31,507
In the board meeting
the next day,
I was more restrained.
595
00:26:31,508 --> 00:26:34,843
And then, Ted stormed in
and fireworks flew,
596
00:26:34,844 --> 00:26:36,887
and he held nothing back.
597
00:26:36,888 --> 00:26:39,223
And so, that was a,
that was a powerful meeting.
598
00:26:39,224 --> 00:26:42,518
And I, I knew pretty well then
599
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:44,186
Levin was toast.
600
00:26:44,187 --> 00:26:47,398
My colleague, best friend,
601
00:26:47,399 --> 00:26:50,067
and new partner,
Ted Turner. Ted?
602
00:26:50,068 --> 00:26:52,653
- (laughs) Alright. Well...
- (applause)
603
00:26:52,654 --> 00:26:56,240
Glover:
Ted liked Jerry Levin early on,
and then,
604
00:26:56,241 --> 00:26:58,242
and then,
people's opinion change,
605
00:26:58,243 --> 00:26:59,785
especially when you feel like
606
00:26:59,786 --> 00:27:01,286
you did get
a knife in the back.
607
00:27:01,287 --> 00:27:03,414
And I think he felt like he
got a knife in the back.
608
00:27:03,415 --> 00:27:05,792
And you know what?
I share that feeling, but...
609
00:27:06,376 --> 00:27:09,294
Ted Turner: Jerry announced
his resignation in December,
610
00:27:09,295 --> 00:27:11,880
explaining that he would
officially leave the company
611
00:27:11,881 --> 00:27:13,925
in May of 2002.
612
00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:17,803
- (slot machine jackpot
ringing, coins rattle)
- (applause)
613
00:27:17,804 --> 00:27:21,140
I wanted to do one last
entrepreneurial thing.
614
00:27:21,141 --> 00:27:23,475
I'm starting
a restaurant chain.
615
00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:25,602
I'm-I'm--
Ted's Montana Grill.
616
00:27:25,603 --> 00:27:27,731
Basically,
they're gonna be a bison--
617
00:27:27,731 --> 00:27:31,608
specializing in bison burgers
and, uh, bison meat products.
618
00:27:31,609 --> 00:27:32,818
We're gonna see if it works.
619
00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:35,070
I'm, I'm hopeful that,
that it does
620
00:27:35,071 --> 00:27:37,072
because I've got 32,000 bison,
621
00:27:37,073 --> 00:27:38,657
- and, um...
- (audience laughter)
622
00:27:38,658 --> 00:27:41,785
I'm trying to move some meat,
you know? I--
623
00:27:41,786 --> 00:27:43,245
- (audience laughing)
- (Ted laughs)
624
00:27:43,246 --> 00:27:44,497
Malone:
And that's Ted.
625
00:27:44,873 --> 00:27:46,749
He's afraid that he goes out
626
00:27:46,750 --> 00:27:48,959
with a failure at the end,
627
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,628
whether it's AOL or not, okay?
628
00:27:51,629 --> 00:27:53,922
That he goes out a failure,
629
00:27:53,923 --> 00:27:56,593
and that his original success
was a fluke.
630
00:27:56,593 --> 00:27:59,261
And therefore,
"I'm gonna go start
631
00:27:59,262 --> 00:28:02,639
"some other unrelated business,
and I'm gonna promote it,
632
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,934
"and I'm gonna make it
a success in a tough space,
633
00:28:05,935 --> 00:28:07,603
"because I'm not a fluke.
634
00:28:07,604 --> 00:28:09,938
"Because I know what I'm doing,
I'm good at it,
635
00:28:09,939 --> 00:28:11,523
and I can do this."
636
00:28:11,524 --> 00:28:13,442
And I think that was really
637
00:28:13,443 --> 00:28:16,278
his attitude about
the restaurant business.
638
00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:17,988
- (audience laughter)
- You're, you're
raising the bison,
639
00:28:17,989 --> 00:28:19,281
and, and you had--
you, uh, to--
640
00:28:19,282 --> 00:28:21,033
to feed the Montana Grills
that you've opened.
641
00:28:21,034 --> 00:28:22,451
- Is that how it works?
- Well, I'm raising--
642
00:28:22,452 --> 00:28:23,952
raising the bison
'cause I really like 'em,
643
00:28:23,953 --> 00:28:26,456
but when I got up to 42,000,
644
00:28:26,456 --> 00:28:28,291
I had to start doing
something with them
645
00:28:28,291 --> 00:28:29,958
- because they keep breeding.
- (laughter)
646
00:28:29,959 --> 00:28:31,293
So, we had to--
647
00:28:31,294 --> 00:28:33,337
- We had to eat some of 'em.
- (audience laughing)
648
00:28:33,338 --> 00:28:35,297
You know, like,
this, this business plan
649
00:28:35,298 --> 00:28:37,132
doesn't look like
it makes any sense to me.
650
00:28:37,133 --> 00:28:39,551
And he says, "Hey, pal."
He says,
651
00:28:39,552 --> 00:28:41,553
"We got three foundations, right?
652
00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:43,306
"Got three nonprofits.
653
00:28:43,306 --> 00:28:45,809
"We got United Nations
Foundation.
654
00:28:45,809 --> 00:28:48,060
"We got Nuclear Threat
Initiative.
We got Turner Foundation.
655
00:28:48,061 --> 00:28:49,311
"What's wrong
with having a fourth,
656
00:28:49,312 --> 00:28:50,814
a nonprofit restaurant?"
657
00:28:50,814 --> 00:28:52,648
(laughs) That's Ted!
658
00:28:52,649 --> 00:28:54,983
So, uh, he said, "We're gonna
make it profitable one day,"
659
00:28:54,984 --> 00:28:56,277
and, uh, we did, so...
660
00:28:57,112 --> 00:28:59,738
Ted Turner:
I love these animals,
and while it took me a while
661
00:28:59,739 --> 00:29:02,659
to warm to the idea
of serving them as food,
662
00:29:02,659 --> 00:29:05,077
I grew to realize
that the best way
663
00:29:05,078 --> 00:29:07,162
to ensure that bison
would increase
664
00:29:07,163 --> 00:29:10,165
was to get more people
to eat them.
665
00:29:10,166 --> 00:29:13,252
Glover:
I think that Ted's views
are sustainability,
666
00:29:13,253 --> 00:29:15,170
but also economic
sustainability.
667
00:29:15,171 --> 00:29:16,547
We talk about that a lot,
668
00:29:16,548 --> 00:29:18,507
and since he's such
a good businessman
669
00:29:18,508 --> 00:29:20,509
and such a good
conservationist,
670
00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:22,345
marrying those two
is something
671
00:29:22,345 --> 00:29:25,681
that we deem essential
going forward.
672
00:29:25,682 --> 00:29:27,391
George McKerrow:
By making them commercial,
673
00:29:27,392 --> 00:29:29,686
there's a reason
for ranchers to have them.
674
00:29:29,686 --> 00:29:31,895
Once we do that,
the gene pool starts to expand.
675
00:29:31,896 --> 00:29:33,731
We've doubled
the size of the herd.
676
00:29:33,732 --> 00:29:35,774
David Letterman:
You mind if I run down
a couple of the menu items?
677
00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:37,526
How many Montana Grills
are there now?
678
00:29:37,527 --> 00:29:38,527
- There are 40.
- Forty.
679
00:29:38,528 --> 00:29:39,778
Now, here's something called
680
00:29:39,779 --> 00:29:42,197
the fried bison
innard sampler, 3.29.
681
00:29:42,198 --> 00:29:43,866
(audience laughing, groaning)
682
00:29:43,867 --> 00:29:45,451
"A heaping stack
of bisony nuggets
683
00:29:45,452 --> 00:29:47,786
- served with assorted
dipping sauces."
- Mm.
684
00:29:47,787 --> 00:29:51,290
- "Happy entrails to you."
- That's-- You put that on there!
685
00:29:51,291 --> 00:29:53,292
- (audience laughter)
- Letterman:
It's right there, Ted.
686
00:29:53,293 --> 00:29:55,210
Right there.
687
00:29:55,211 --> 00:29:58,964
- (laughter increases)
- (applause)
688
00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:00,633
You got me.
689
00:30:03,261 --> 00:30:04,763
(applause fades out)
690
00:30:05,597 --> 00:30:07,056
(car rumbling)
691
00:30:07,057 --> 00:30:09,559
In December of 2003,
692
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:12,603
Taylor Glover and I were
driving to a planning meeting
693
00:30:12,604 --> 00:30:14,689
for Ted's Montana Grill
694
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,317
when Debbie Masterson
called me
695
00:30:18,318 --> 00:30:21,487
with the news that
Jimmy Brown had died.
696
00:30:21,488 --> 00:30:23,614
He was 79 years old
697
00:30:23,615 --> 00:30:26,241
and had been ill
for some time,
698
00:30:26,242 --> 00:30:29,578
but his passing was still
a surprise and a shock.
699
00:30:29,579 --> 00:30:31,413
(birds chirping)
700
00:30:31,414 --> 00:30:35,417
Sitting there in the car,
tears streamed down my face,
701
00:30:35,418 --> 00:30:38,337
and instinctively,
I started to sing a song
702
00:30:38,338 --> 00:30:40,422
I used to sing to Jimmy,
703
00:30:40,423 --> 00:30:43,802
"The Three Bells."
The words go like this.
704
00:30:44,469 --> 00:30:47,262
The Browns:
♪ From the village ♪
705
00:30:47,263 --> 00:30:50,432
- ♪ Hidden deep in the valley ♪
- (birds chirping)
706
00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:54,270
♪ One rainy morning,
dark and gray ♪
707
00:30:54,270 --> 00:30:58,273
♪ A soul winged its way
to Heaven ♪
708
00:30:58,274 --> 00:31:01,652
♪ Jimmy Brown
had passed away ♪
709
00:31:01,653 --> 00:31:03,946
♪ Bum, bum, bum, bum ♪
710
00:31:03,947 --> 00:31:06,783
♪ Just a lonely bell
was ringing ♪
711
00:31:06,783 --> 00:31:12,663
- (vocalizing)
- ♪ In the little valley town ♪
712
00:31:12,664 --> 00:31:15,374
♪ 'Twas farewell
that it was singing ♪
713
00:31:15,375 --> 00:31:20,963
- (vocalizing)
- ♪ To our good old
Jimmy Brown ♪
714
00:31:20,964 --> 00:31:23,008
(song fades out)
715
00:31:24,676 --> 00:31:26,051
He never quit.
716
00:31:26,052 --> 00:31:27,720
He never had a day off.
717
00:31:27,721 --> 00:31:29,221
You know,
never went on vacation.
718
00:31:29,222 --> 00:31:32,725
One time, I was out, um,
719
00:31:32,726 --> 00:31:35,812
visiting Ted in Montana,
and, uh...
720
00:31:36,688 --> 00:31:39,398
it was dark outside,
and it was blowing,
721
00:31:39,399 --> 00:31:41,150
and it was snowing,
722
00:31:41,151 --> 00:31:44,194
- and it was a blizzard.
- (wind blowing)
723
00:31:44,195 --> 00:31:47,322
And so, I said to Jimmy,
724
00:31:47,323 --> 00:31:49,826
"How do you like
being out here in Montana?"
725
00:31:49,826 --> 00:31:51,827
You know, it's not exactly
his natural element
726
00:31:51,828 --> 00:31:54,372
'cause he was
from Savannah. And he...
727
00:31:54,998 --> 00:31:58,375
he said,
"Well, I tell you, Mr. Pete."
728
00:31:58,376 --> 00:32:00,962
He made sure that there wasn't
anybody else coming or around.
729
00:32:01,921 --> 00:32:03,213
He said,
730
00:32:03,214 --> 00:32:05,674
"I'd rather be a lamppost
in Savannah, Georgia,
731
00:32:05,675 --> 00:32:07,844
than be mayor of Montana."
732
00:32:07,844 --> 00:32:10,512
When you would go to Avalon,
where Jimmy lived,
733
00:32:10,513 --> 00:32:12,515
you know, you wouldn't go
to the big house first.
734
00:32:12,515 --> 00:32:14,224
You know? You'd go
to Jimmy's house first.
735
00:32:14,225 --> 00:32:16,935
And then you'd sit and
have a soda and talk with Jimmy
736
00:32:16,936 --> 00:32:18,395
and see what's going on
in the world.
737
00:32:18,396 --> 00:32:21,690
And he knew everything
about everything, you know?
738
00:32:21,691 --> 00:32:24,109
He knew the problems
in the world.
739
00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:27,905
He knew... politics.
He knew racism.
740
00:32:27,906 --> 00:32:30,658
He knew, like,
a lot of...
741
00:32:32,202 --> 00:32:34,745
Who we were,
in a lot of different ways,
742
00:32:34,746 --> 00:32:36,206
came from, um, Jimmy.
743
00:32:36,206 --> 00:32:40,210
And he was just
a super wise man
744
00:32:40,210 --> 00:32:42,045
who you wanted
to spend time with
745
00:32:42,045 --> 00:32:43,629
and wanted to talk to.
746
00:32:43,630 --> 00:32:47,549
(Dixieland jazz-style
"When the Saints
Go Marching In" playing)
747
00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:49,635
Ted Turner:
As Jimmy had requested,
748
00:32:49,636 --> 00:32:53,263
we had a New Orleans-style
procession of musicians
749
00:32:53,264 --> 00:32:55,557
and a horse-drawn casket.
750
00:32:55,558 --> 00:32:58,311
My entire family
was there for his funeral.
751
00:32:59,187 --> 00:33:01,980
And Jane Fonda
flew in as well.
752
00:33:01,981 --> 00:33:03,816
He'd had
a huge impact on her,
753
00:33:03,817 --> 00:33:06,652
just as he had on everyone
he'd ever met.
754
00:33:06,653 --> 00:33:10,239
Pretty sure that it's the
first funeral I ever went to.
755
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,075
So, it was a time in my life
756
00:33:13,076 --> 00:33:15,619
where I was old enough
to understand
757
00:33:15,620 --> 00:33:17,287
what his passing meant.
758
00:33:17,288 --> 00:33:21,917
And it was very emotional
for my parents.
759
00:33:21,918 --> 00:33:23,919
It was very emotional
for my grandpa
760
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,671
and my aunts and uncles.
761
00:33:25,672 --> 00:33:29,133
When my brother was little, um,
my parents would say,
762
00:33:29,134 --> 00:33:30,759
"It takes a village
to raise a kid,"
763
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,595
and he said,
"No, it takes an army."
764
00:33:32,595 --> 00:33:35,097
And I think for my mom
and my grandpa,
765
00:33:35,098 --> 00:33:37,307
it was less of an army
and less of a village,
766
00:33:37,308 --> 00:33:39,184
and it was just Jimmy Brown.
767
00:33:39,185 --> 00:33:41,520
And I think
without Jimmy Brown, we--
768
00:33:41,521 --> 00:33:43,857
our family wouldn't be
together like it was.
769
00:33:44,482 --> 00:33:46,275
("The Three Bells"
by The Browns playing)
770
00:33:46,276 --> 00:33:48,861
Masterson:
Ted started singing
the Jimmy Brown song and,
771
00:33:48,862 --> 00:33:50,362
and became broken up.
772
00:33:50,363 --> 00:33:52,031
And there were a lot of people
773
00:33:52,032 --> 00:33:55,117
who knew it
and joined in and chimed in.
774
00:33:55,118 --> 00:33:58,288
And, and it was sang and,
and, and you know,
775
00:33:58,288 --> 00:34:01,457
it was a unifying, uh, time.
776
00:34:01,458 --> 00:34:04,793
And, and it was such a--
it was just a beautiful tribute.
777
00:34:04,794 --> 00:34:07,338
I basically learned about, uh,
778
00:34:07,339 --> 00:34:09,631
being a good parent
from Jimmy.
779
00:34:09,632 --> 00:34:12,009
I learned about being
a good sailor from Jimmy,
780
00:34:12,010 --> 00:34:13,552
about being
a good fisherman from Jimmy,
781
00:34:13,553 --> 00:34:15,305
about being a hunter from Jimmy,
782
00:34:15,305 --> 00:34:18,224
about being an honest,
decent person from Jimmy,
783
00:34:18,933 --> 00:34:21,977
about caring about people
from Jimmy...
784
00:34:21,978 --> 00:34:23,855
Well, a whole lot.
785
00:34:24,314 --> 00:34:26,148
Looking back,
I enjoyed every minute.
786
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:27,983
♪ May his soul find
the salvation ♪
787
00:34:27,984 --> 00:34:31,029
And if I could do it over again,
I'd do the same thing.
788
00:34:31,529 --> 00:34:33,698
I mean, I don't have
no regrets whatsoever.
789
00:34:34,657 --> 00:34:36,701
Ted Turner:
Jim, I love you like crazy.
790
00:34:41,164 --> 00:34:43,333
(stock market bell clanging)
791
00:34:43,333 --> 00:34:45,335
reporter:
AOL Time Warner reporter losses
792
00:34:45,335 --> 00:34:48,587
of $98 billion
for the 2002 year,
793
00:34:48,588 --> 00:34:50,839
making it the largest
annual net loss
794
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,257
in US corporate history.
795
00:34:52,258 --> 00:34:54,593
And it's just
that synergistic failure
796
00:34:54,594 --> 00:34:58,389
that has caused AOL Time Warner
to suffer massive losses.
797
00:34:58,390 --> 00:35:00,724
This past year alone,
the company announced
798
00:35:00,725 --> 00:35:02,518
they had lost an astonishing
799
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:06,522
$99... billion!
800
00:35:06,523 --> 00:35:10,025
(audience laughter)
801
00:35:10,026 --> 00:35:12,194
We are here to announce
significant developments
802
00:35:12,195 --> 00:35:15,030
in the continuing
corporate fraud investigation
803
00:35:15,031 --> 00:35:16,532
involving America Online.
804
00:35:16,533 --> 00:35:19,118
presenter:
"Washington Post" reporter
Alec Klein
805
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:20,369
explains what happened.
806
00:35:20,370 --> 00:35:22,246
It became clear
that what was happening
807
00:35:22,247 --> 00:35:25,249
was that AOL was inflating
its advertising revenue,
808
00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:27,918
both before its merger
with Time Warner and after.
809
00:35:27,919 --> 00:35:32,089
It was interesting because
these deals helped AOL
810
00:35:32,090 --> 00:35:35,217
show, uh, growth,
incredible growth,
811
00:35:35,218 --> 00:35:36,385
which was very important
812
00:35:36,386 --> 00:35:38,429
as he was trying
to clinch this merger.
813
00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:40,305
Uh, if,
if AOL had actually shown
814
00:35:40,306 --> 00:35:42,892
some of the financial weakness
it was having at this time,
815
00:35:42,892 --> 00:35:44,226
it could've jeopardized
the deal.
816
00:35:44,227 --> 00:35:46,563
Time Warner could've pulled
out of the merger.
817
00:35:47,105 --> 00:35:49,607
Uh, anyway,
so before the stories ran,
818
00:35:50,358 --> 00:35:52,943
I had to tell AOL
what I had found.
819
00:35:52,944 --> 00:35:56,238
So, in short order,
AOL went ballistic over this,
820
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,949
and they claimed
that I didn't understand
821
00:35:58,950 --> 00:36:00,826
the information
I was looking at.
822
00:36:00,827 --> 00:36:02,745
And they said that
it'd be a big mistake
823
00:36:02,746 --> 00:36:04,455
if we ran these stories.
824
00:36:04,456 --> 00:36:08,834
Uh, so, they hired
a high-powered law firm
825
00:36:08,835 --> 00:36:10,795
to kill the stories
before they appeared.
826
00:36:11,296 --> 00:36:14,006
And we ended up publishing
the stories last July.
827
00:36:14,007 --> 00:36:17,468
Bob Pittman, who was
the chief operating officer
of the company,
828
00:36:17,469 --> 00:36:19,762
resigned that day,
the first day of our series.
829
00:36:19,763 --> 00:36:21,638
Then, AOL admitted
830
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:23,349
that the Securities
and Exchange Commission
831
00:36:23,350 --> 00:36:25,309
was investigating
its accounting
832
00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:26,936
because of our stories.
833
00:36:26,936 --> 00:36:29,188
Then, AOL confirmed
that the Justice Department
834
00:36:29,189 --> 00:36:31,273
was investigating as well.
835
00:36:31,274 --> 00:36:32,483
And then, in short order,
836
00:36:32,484 --> 00:36:34,193
AOL admitted
that it had, in fact,
837
00:36:34,194 --> 00:36:36,862
inflated its revenue
by $49 million.
838
00:36:36,863 --> 00:36:39,114
Then, they said the number
grew to $190 million,
839
00:36:39,115 --> 00:36:40,617
and they ended up,
uh, revising
840
00:36:40,617 --> 00:36:43,202
about two years
of its financial results.
841
00:36:43,203 --> 00:36:45,788
In a criminal complaint
that was filed today
842
00:36:45,789 --> 00:36:47,706
in the eastern district
of Virginia,
843
00:36:47,707 --> 00:36:49,626
the government
has charged AOL
844
00:36:49,626 --> 00:36:51,669
with aiding and abetting
securities fraud.
845
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:55,673
I mean, Time Warner
had the best law firms
846
00:36:55,674 --> 00:36:58,175
that New York had to offer.
847
00:36:58,176 --> 00:37:02,054
How could they possibly
have been snookered...
848
00:37:02,055 --> 00:37:04,515
(laughs) pardon the expression,
like they were?
849
00:37:04,516 --> 00:37:05,850
I mean, it's just...
850
00:37:06,726 --> 00:37:08,228
I-I don't understand it.
851
00:37:10,021 --> 00:37:11,730
Ted Turner:
Throughout my career,
852
00:37:11,731 --> 00:37:14,566
I had always run
the company aggressively.
853
00:37:14,567 --> 00:37:17,820
But, I always demanded
that we be honest.
854
00:37:17,821 --> 00:37:19,863
Glover:
One thing he's always
been is honest, and,
855
00:37:19,864 --> 00:37:21,907
as the day is long,
and overly honest.
856
00:37:21,908 --> 00:37:24,410
And to be associated with
a company now
857
00:37:24,411 --> 00:37:28,831
that, uh, had, uh,
had accounting schemes going on
858
00:37:28,832 --> 00:37:32,418
that were, uh,
not only questionable
but were wrong.
859
00:37:32,419 --> 00:37:34,504
Yeah, they rolled 'em.
860
00:37:34,504 --> 00:37:37,631
Problem was, they merged them
with a company that was,
861
00:37:37,632 --> 00:37:39,425
that was vaporware,
862
00:37:39,426 --> 00:37:42,177
and... (laughs)
and, and evaporated.
863
00:37:42,178 --> 00:37:44,013
Turner will retain
his post until May,
864
00:37:44,014 --> 00:37:46,432
when he will step down to,
as a spokesman says,
865
00:37:46,433 --> 00:37:49,184
"Focus more on his
nonprofit organizations."
866
00:37:49,185 --> 00:37:50,853
Which sort of
begs the question,
867
00:37:50,854 --> 00:37:53,230
how much more nonprofit
can you get
868
00:37:53,231 --> 00:37:55,941
- than AOL Time Warner?!
- (audience laughter)
869
00:37:55,942 --> 00:37:59,654
- (cheering and applause)
- 99 billion! D'oh!
870
00:38:00,530 --> 00:38:03,199
Ted Turner: It was time
for me to move on.
871
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:05,409
But, as I contemplated
this move,
872
00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:07,870
something still
didn't feel right.
873
00:38:07,871 --> 00:38:09,872
I had lost all this money,
874
00:38:09,873 --> 00:38:11,875
been fired from my job,
875
00:38:11,875 --> 00:38:14,710
and now I was going to resign
from the company.
876
00:38:14,711 --> 00:38:16,420
Steve Case:
We announced the merger
877
00:38:16,421 --> 00:38:20,132
to create the first global media
and communications company
878
00:38:20,133 --> 00:38:23,720
of the internet century,
AOL Time Warner.
879
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,722
Ted Turner:
While the mastermind
of this disastrous merger,
880
00:38:26,723 --> 00:38:30,059
Steve Case was still
the company's chairman.
881
00:38:30,060 --> 00:38:33,437
And so, he began to work with
other institutional investors
882
00:38:33,438 --> 00:38:35,481
to oust Steve Case
883
00:38:35,482 --> 00:38:37,649
because he felt Steve Case,
as the head of AOL,
884
00:38:37,650 --> 00:38:39,777
should have known
what was going on.
885
00:38:39,778 --> 00:38:41,612
So, uh, as you probably know,
886
00:38:41,613 --> 00:38:44,073
Steve Case ended up resigning
in January as a result,
887
00:38:44,074 --> 00:38:45,616
in part of this.
888
00:38:45,617 --> 00:38:48,244
And it's kind of incredible
'cause it's three years later,
889
00:38:48,244 --> 00:38:50,579
and the largest merger
in US history,
890
00:38:50,580 --> 00:38:52,081
all the key players are gone.
891
00:38:52,082 --> 00:38:53,457
Ted Turner:
I made the announcement
892
00:38:53,458 --> 00:38:55,584
that our annual shareholders
meeting in May
893
00:38:55,585 --> 00:38:57,419
would be my last.
894
00:38:57,420 --> 00:39:00,422
It was nice that the event
was held in Atlanta.
895
00:39:00,423 --> 00:39:03,467
They played a flattering
video of my career
896
00:39:03,468 --> 00:39:05,803
and gave me a warm send-off.
897
00:39:05,804 --> 00:39:08,598
- (audience laughing)
- There's nothing worse
than being old and broke,
898
00:39:08,598 --> 00:39:11,935
particularly when you've been
old and rich, you know?
899
00:39:11,935 --> 00:39:13,519
Not good.
900
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,522
Hard to get a job
when you're over 65, I know. I--
901
00:39:16,523 --> 00:39:18,107
Before I started
the restaurant business,
902
00:39:18,108 --> 00:39:20,651
I went out to see,
and nobody made me an offer.
903
00:39:20,652 --> 00:39:22,611
They said, "You're too old."
904
00:39:22,612 --> 00:39:25,280
You live by the sword,
you die by it.
905
00:39:25,281 --> 00:39:27,491
Anyway, what it's done
906
00:39:27,492 --> 00:39:30,119
is free,
free up my time
907
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,372
to work on philanthropy
and trying to make the world,
908
00:39:33,373 --> 00:39:35,709
uh, a better place.
909
00:39:35,959 --> 00:39:39,545
Pan-Global Oil keeps dumping
sludge into the Atlantic Ocean.
910
00:39:39,546 --> 00:39:41,880
That burns my ass!
911
00:39:41,881 --> 00:39:44,216
Forget it, Ted.
There's nothing you can do.
912
00:39:44,217 --> 00:39:46,010
Maybe I can't,
913
00:39:46,011 --> 00:39:48,554
but Captain Planet can!
914
00:39:48,555 --> 00:39:51,683
- (foreboding music playing)
- Captain Planet!
915
00:39:53,059 --> 00:39:56,061
- Captain Planet!
- (yelps)
916
00:39:56,062 --> 00:39:58,022
Yeah, let's sludge the hell
outta the Grand Canyon.
917
00:39:58,023 --> 00:40:00,190
- Yeah. Is that Ted Turner?
- (whirring)
918
00:40:00,191 --> 00:40:01,900
boss 1: I think it is.
The hell's he doing?
919
00:40:01,901 --> 00:40:03,736
boss 2: I don't know.
He's on one of those zip lines.
920
00:40:03,737 --> 00:40:05,988
- Oh, yeah. Is that what
they're called? Zip lines?
- Yeah, zip lines.
921
00:40:05,989 --> 00:40:09,324
- Yeah, I always thought
it was-- Ah!
- Captain Planet!
922
00:40:09,325 --> 00:40:10,993
You got glass in my eye!
923
00:40:10,994 --> 00:40:14,079
- (bear roars)
- Sam Donaldson: And just
look at what else
924
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,081
Turner wouldn't mind
restoring here.
925
00:40:16,082 --> 00:40:18,334
(roars)
926
00:40:18,335 --> 00:40:20,169
How about the most
fearsome creature
927
00:40:20,170 --> 00:40:22,171
on the North
American continent,
928
00:40:22,172 --> 00:40:25,883
Ursus horribilis,
the grizzly bear.
929
00:40:25,884 --> 00:40:28,886
If there were grizzly bears
here, it would make me happy.
930
00:40:28,887 --> 00:40:31,847
Well, the grizzly, of course,
if it encounters a human
931
00:40:31,848 --> 00:40:33,390
in a certain condition,
kills it.
932
00:40:33,391 --> 00:40:34,683
That's exactly right.
933
00:40:34,684 --> 00:40:36,352
And, in my opinion,
934
00:40:36,353 --> 00:40:39,188
that's just a risk that we, uh,
we have to take.
935
00:40:39,189 --> 00:40:41,565
Donaldson:
Turner's environmental
master plan
936
00:40:41,566 --> 00:40:44,193
also includes reviving
prairie dog colonies
937
00:40:44,194 --> 00:40:46,862
and bringing back
the black-footed ferret.
938
00:40:46,863 --> 00:40:48,864
Already, he's rebuilt
and restored
939
00:40:48,865 --> 00:40:51,283
miles of riverbanks
and stream beds,
940
00:40:51,284 --> 00:40:54,412
so crucial to the survival
of native species of trout.
941
00:40:54,996 --> 00:40:56,873
Ted Turner:
And another thing
that we're doing
942
00:40:56,873 --> 00:41:00,043
at the Turner Foundation,
we're one of many people,
943
00:41:00,043 --> 00:41:01,293
we-we've started, uh,
944
00:41:01,294 --> 00:41:04,254
what we call an
Energy Futures Coalition
945
00:41:04,255 --> 00:41:06,215
that, um, includes
the coal companies,
946
00:41:06,216 --> 00:41:07,633
the automobile companies.
947
00:41:07,634 --> 00:41:09,718
It includes
the environmental organizations
948
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,596
and the industries that,
that are affected
949
00:41:12,597 --> 00:41:14,431
working together
to come up with
950
00:41:14,432 --> 00:41:17,142
an alternate energy program
for the United States,
951
00:41:17,143 --> 00:41:20,104
so we can move away from
our dependence on fossil fuel,
952
00:41:20,105 --> 00:41:22,064
both because we need to do it
953
00:41:22,065 --> 00:41:23,941
from an environmental
standpoint,
954
00:41:23,942 --> 00:41:26,443
and we need to do it from
a peace and security standpoint.
955
00:41:26,444 --> 00:41:29,405
(audience laughing)
956
00:41:29,406 --> 00:41:31,448
- (laughs)
- I surrender.
957
00:41:31,449 --> 00:41:33,409
I, I work on nuclear weapons.
958
00:41:33,410 --> 00:41:34,785
I'ma let you
take care of the tax.
959
00:41:34,786 --> 00:41:37,080
- How about a carbon tax?
- It's too goddamn complicat--
960
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,415
No, I am for a carbon tax.
961
00:41:38,415 --> 00:41:40,249
I think we should have
a, a carbon tax
962
00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:43,460
and refund it, uh, to--
on people's income tax.
963
00:41:43,461 --> 00:41:45,963
- Ralph Nader: Okay.
- I think the polluter should pay
964
00:41:45,964 --> 00:41:47,924
because if
the polluter's paying,
965
00:41:47,924 --> 00:41:50,593
he's got more of an incentive
to cut back on the pollution.
966
00:41:50,593 --> 00:41:53,262
With coal, you know
you're gonna get killed,
967
00:41:53,263 --> 00:41:56,933
and, and, and with nuclear,
you have a chance
of getting killed.
968
00:41:56,933 --> 00:41:59,601
But, at least you have a chance
of not getting killed, either.
969
00:41:59,602 --> 00:42:04,106
One of the problems with, uh,
with our form of government,
970
00:42:04,107 --> 00:42:07,318
and, and really, it's a,
it's a flaw in ourselves,
971
00:42:08,570 --> 00:42:12,031
is that we're not real good
at dealing with problems
972
00:42:12,032 --> 00:42:14,324
that are way off
in the future.
973
00:42:14,325 --> 00:42:16,201
We're real good with dealing--
974
00:42:16,202 --> 00:42:18,288
You know,
as soon as 9/11 happened,
975
00:42:18,288 --> 00:42:21,124
I mean, we got the Department
of Homeland Security,
976
00:42:21,124 --> 00:42:23,208
and everybody's running
around trying to,
977
00:42:23,209 --> 00:42:25,754
well, see that
it doesn't happen again.
978
00:42:26,588 --> 00:42:27,796
I agree. That's great.
979
00:42:27,797 --> 00:42:29,298
- (laughter)
- Thank you.
980
00:42:29,299 --> 00:42:32,217
- Oh! Mamma Mia!
- Safer: Whoa!
981
00:42:32,218 --> 00:42:34,011
Ted Turner:
That's a real nice fish.
982
00:42:34,012 --> 00:42:36,138
Safer:
Life is good for Ted Turner.
983
00:42:36,139 --> 00:42:38,640
He's not your average
old age pensioner.
984
00:42:38,641 --> 00:42:41,977
This most restless of men
jets around the world...
985
00:42:41,978 --> 00:42:44,730
- Here we go.
- Safer: ...promoting
good causes,
986
00:42:44,731 --> 00:42:46,982
dreaming up
new business ventures,
987
00:42:46,983 --> 00:42:49,568
and dropping in on
his dozens of properties
988
00:42:49,569 --> 00:42:51,862
scattered about the hemisphere.
989
00:42:51,863 --> 00:42:53,822
But, you still have
a lot of girlfriends.
990
00:42:53,823 --> 00:42:55,657
I still have... some.
991
00:42:55,658 --> 00:42:57,535
- (snickers)
- I'm dating.
992
00:42:59,204 --> 00:43:00,871
Ted Turner:
But I really had a great time.
993
00:43:00,872 --> 00:43:03,833
I've had a great life, and I'm
having a great life right now.
994
00:43:04,209 --> 00:43:07,337
In America,
we've emphasized that, uh,
995
00:43:07,337 --> 00:43:10,506
how much money you have
and how much you spend
996
00:43:10,507 --> 00:43:12,424
is what determines
how happy you are.
997
00:43:12,425 --> 00:43:13,884
That's not right.
998
00:43:13,885 --> 00:43:15,844
The thing that really
determines your happiness
999
00:43:15,845 --> 00:43:17,763
is your relationships.
1000
00:43:17,764 --> 00:43:19,723
With your family,
with your friends.
1001
00:43:19,724 --> 00:43:21,850
His legacy
is his kids, for sure.
1002
00:43:21,851 --> 00:43:23,852
♪
1003
00:43:23,853 --> 00:43:25,521
Fonda:
As he's aging,
1004
00:43:25,522 --> 00:43:27,231
he wants to know...
1005
00:43:27,232 --> 00:43:29,275
(voice breaking)
that he will go out
1006
00:43:30,443 --> 00:43:33,028
with the love of his children
and his grandchildren--
1007
00:43:33,029 --> 00:43:34,572
(sighs, whispers)
1008
00:43:36,408 --> 00:43:38,909
That may not always have been
important to him,
1009
00:43:38,910 --> 00:43:40,203
but it's important to him now,
1010
00:43:40,203 --> 00:43:42,955
and so he's doing
what he needs to do.
1011
00:43:42,956 --> 00:43:44,707
Ted Turner:
I don't need any more stuff.
1012
00:43:44,708 --> 00:43:47,042
- (soft laughter)
- Only thing I tell my family,
1013
00:43:47,043 --> 00:43:49,045
'cause they wanna get you
Christmas presents,
1014
00:43:49,045 --> 00:43:50,295
is the one thing I do like,
1015
00:43:50,296 --> 00:43:53,216
the only thing that
I can use more of
1016
00:43:53,216 --> 00:43:56,218
is framed photographs
of my grandchildren,
1017
00:43:56,219 --> 00:43:57,386
and children.
1018
00:43:57,387 --> 00:43:59,054
We're gonna have
dinner tonight, huh?
1019
00:43:59,055 --> 00:44:01,807
- Yeah, that's true. (indistinct)
- I think-- Yes, sir. Thank you.
1020
00:44:01,808 --> 00:44:03,892
- Will you shake my hand?
- (laughs)
1021
00:44:03,893 --> 00:44:06,395
I decided that what would be
really exciting to do,
1022
00:44:06,396 --> 00:44:10,442
donate a billion dollars to
the UN causes myself.
1023
00:44:10,859 --> 00:44:14,696
(applause, cheering)
1024
00:44:15,363 --> 00:44:17,614
I mean, who wants to miss
a night with Ted Turner?
1025
00:44:17,615 --> 00:44:21,077
Not me. The man is way more
rock-and-roll than I am.
1026
00:44:21,077 --> 00:44:24,663
Even now. Unpredictable.
Uncompromising.
1027
00:44:24,664 --> 00:44:26,958
Genius innovator. Yes!
1028
00:44:27,250 --> 00:44:29,918
Especially
at birthday parties.
1029
00:44:29,919 --> 00:44:31,295
And you've two tonight.
1030
00:44:31,296 --> 00:44:34,006
Ted's,
who's about to turn 80.
1031
00:44:34,007 --> 00:44:35,884
Happy birthday, your dudeness.
1032
00:44:37,385 --> 00:44:39,970
And his baby,
the UN Foundations,
1033
00:44:39,971 --> 00:44:41,930
which is turning 20.
1034
00:44:41,931 --> 00:44:44,351
Oh, these kids,
they grow up fast!
1035
00:44:45,018 --> 00:44:47,604
Ted Turner:
Tim and his team have
accomplished a great deal
1036
00:44:47,604 --> 00:44:51,023
in the years since we created
the UN Foundation.
1037
00:44:51,024 --> 00:44:52,858
I'm particularly proud
of the work
1038
00:44:52,859 --> 00:44:55,027
that we've done
to fight malaria,
1039
00:44:55,028 --> 00:44:57,696
a preventable
and treatable disease
1040
00:44:57,697 --> 00:45:00,617
that kills more than
one million people every year.
1041
00:45:01,326 --> 00:45:04,995
One person dies from malaria
every 30 seconds.
1042
00:45:04,996 --> 00:45:07,164
Now, I've known Ted
1043
00:45:07,165 --> 00:45:10,292
since the earliest days
of our work together
1044
00:45:10,293 --> 00:45:12,002
in the fight
against HIV/AIDS.
1045
00:45:12,003 --> 00:45:14,339
UN Foundation's become
1046
00:45:15,215 --> 00:45:18,300
the UN's strategic partner,
uh, since that time,
1047
00:45:18,301 --> 00:45:22,179
connecting the UN
to activists like myself,
1048
00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:25,307
and individuals, businesses,
philanthropists,
1049
00:45:25,308 --> 00:45:27,976
that when working together can,
1050
00:45:27,977 --> 00:45:30,479
must drive progress
1051
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,649
on some of the biggest
challenges of our time.
1052
00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:37,236
(soft music playing)
1053
00:45:37,237 --> 00:45:39,154
He is one of these
1054
00:45:39,155 --> 00:45:42,534
larger-than-life personalities
1055
00:45:43,201 --> 00:45:46,495
who is also down to earth.
1056
00:45:46,496 --> 00:45:49,331
So, he dreams, he dreams big,
1057
00:45:49,332 --> 00:45:51,834
but he dreams
whilst he's awake.
1058
00:45:51,835 --> 00:45:55,338
reporter: And over the years,
his own Turner Foundation
1059
00:45:55,338 --> 00:45:57,841
has awarded countless grants.
1060
00:45:57,841 --> 00:46:00,217
Ted has allowed us to give
1061
00:46:00,218 --> 00:46:03,138
over $363 million
1062
00:46:03,555 --> 00:46:05,514
in order to make this world
a better place.
1063
00:46:05,515 --> 00:46:07,266
(crowd cheering)
1064
00:46:07,267 --> 00:46:09,893
Barack Obama:
And we must pursue constructive
relations with Russia
1065
00:46:09,894 --> 00:46:12,147
on issues of common concern.
1066
00:46:13,732 --> 00:46:16,192
Now, one of those issues
that I'll focus on today
1067
00:46:17,068 --> 00:46:19,445
is fundamental
to the security of our nations
1068
00:46:19,446 --> 00:46:21,363
and to the peace of the world.
1069
00:46:21,364 --> 00:46:23,282
That's the future
of nuclear weapons
1070
00:46:23,283 --> 00:46:24,409
in the 21st century.
1071
00:46:26,077 --> 00:46:29,414
The existence of thousands
of nuclear weapons
1072
00:46:30,498 --> 00:46:32,876
is the most dangerous legacy
of the Cold War.
1073
00:46:33,668 --> 00:46:37,546
Nunn:
Well, I think we wouldn't be
stretching modesty too far
1074
00:46:37,547 --> 00:46:39,423
if we said that NTI
played a big role
1075
00:46:39,424 --> 00:46:41,425
in what became
the Prague speech
1076
00:46:41,426 --> 00:46:43,052
because we have
been advocating
1077
00:46:43,053 --> 00:46:45,137
getting nuclear materials
under control.
1078
00:46:45,138 --> 00:46:47,432
Today,
the Cold War has disappeared.
1079
00:46:48,475 --> 00:46:51,269
But, thousands of
those weapons have not.
1080
00:46:52,604 --> 00:46:54,313
In a strange turn of history,
1081
00:46:54,314 --> 00:46:57,609
the threat of global nuclear war
has gone down,
1082
00:46:58,693 --> 00:47:02,405
but the risk of a nuclear attack
has gone up.
1083
00:47:02,405 --> 00:47:04,281
(somber music playing)
1084
00:47:04,282 --> 00:47:06,785
More nations have a-acquired
these weapons.
1085
00:47:07,619 --> 00:47:09,745
Testing has continued.
1086
00:47:09,746 --> 00:47:13,082
Black market trade
in nuclear secrets
1087
00:47:13,083 --> 00:47:15,543
and nuclear materials abound.
1088
00:47:16,586 --> 00:47:19,422
The technology to build
a bomb has spread.
1089
00:47:20,340 --> 00:47:23,759
Terrorists are determined
to buy, build, or steal one.
1090
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,427
Obama went
to the United Nations.
1091
00:47:25,428 --> 00:47:28,305
They passed a Security Council
resolution with Russia
1092
00:47:28,306 --> 00:47:31,016
and the United States
both participating.
1093
00:47:31,017 --> 00:47:33,268
I believe Ted went
to that meeting.
1094
00:47:33,269 --> 00:47:34,603
I went to it.
1095
00:47:34,604 --> 00:47:37,356
Uh, and we basically
sat there and watched,
1096
00:47:37,357 --> 00:47:39,943
and a lot of that had
come right out of NTI.
1097
00:47:39,943 --> 00:47:41,985
I don't know how many years
I've got left,
1098
00:47:41,986 --> 00:47:43,696
and I wanna live long enough
1099
00:47:43,697 --> 00:47:46,490
to see global
nuclear disarmament.
1100
00:47:46,491 --> 00:47:48,325
Goddammit,
that's what I want,
1101
00:47:48,326 --> 00:47:50,953
and I'm asking the rest
of y'all to help me. That's--
1102
00:47:50,954 --> 00:47:53,288
- (laughter)
- That's what I want
for my 80th birthday.
1103
00:47:53,289 --> 00:47:55,542
(applause)
1104
00:47:56,167 --> 00:47:58,169
I said, "Well,
there's some golf courses,
1105
00:47:58,712 --> 00:48:01,840
and there's some other things
on my bucket list I wanna do."
1106
00:48:02,340 --> 00:48:04,426
And Turner,
who's more deaf than I am,
1107
00:48:05,260 --> 00:48:07,136
he said,
"What'd you say, Dames?"
1108
00:48:07,137 --> 00:48:11,306
I said, "I have some things
on my bucket list
1109
00:48:11,307 --> 00:48:13,976
that I do wanna do
now that my knee is fixed."
1110
00:48:13,977 --> 00:48:16,562
And he said, "Your what?"
1111
00:48:16,563 --> 00:48:19,649
I said, "My bucket list!"
1112
00:48:19,649 --> 00:48:22,818
And he said,
"Your fuck it list?"
1113
00:48:22,819 --> 00:48:25,988
I said,
"No, Ted. I said, Ted,
1114
00:48:25,989 --> 00:48:29,075
that I have some things
on my bucket list."
1115
00:48:30,452 --> 00:48:33,037
And he said,
"I don't know what that is."
1116
00:48:33,038 --> 00:48:37,041
I said, "Well, people
who aren't billionaires
1117
00:48:37,042 --> 00:48:41,379
"and who've not done everything
that there is to do in life
1118
00:48:42,088 --> 00:48:44,007
"and have maybe a few things
they wanna do
1119
00:48:44,007 --> 00:48:45,674
before they kick the bucket."
1120
00:48:45,675 --> 00:48:47,719
I said,
"That's a bucket list."
1121
00:48:48,428 --> 00:48:50,054
And he looked perplexed.
1122
00:48:50,055 --> 00:48:52,014
And I get on my walker and...
1123
00:48:52,015 --> 00:48:53,349
(laughs)
1124
00:48:53,350 --> 00:48:56,268
and hobble into the bathroom.
1125
00:48:56,269 --> 00:48:58,604
And when I get through,
1126
00:48:58,605 --> 00:49:01,023
I open the door,
1127
00:49:01,024 --> 00:49:03,901
and I'm startled because
Turner's standing there.
1128
00:49:03,902 --> 00:49:06,612
And we're-- (laughs)
we're nose to nose.
1129
00:49:06,613 --> 00:49:08,238
He said, "I've got
a bucket list, Dames.
1130
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,199
I didn't realize
what you were talking about."
1131
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,118
He said,
"I'm gonna make it
1132
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:16,289
"so that none of the little
kids in the world go hungry.
1133
00:49:17,665 --> 00:49:21,044
I'm going to ban
nuclear weapons."
1134
00:49:21,044 --> 00:49:23,546
I said, "Well,
1135
00:49:23,546 --> 00:49:25,923
"most people have
a bucket list of things
1136
00:49:25,924 --> 00:49:27,883
"that they actually think
they can achieve,
1137
00:49:27,884 --> 00:49:30,428
"like playing
a certain golf course,
1138
00:49:31,262 --> 00:49:34,098
"or any number of things
you can do
1139
00:49:34,099 --> 00:49:36,058
"that may be difficult to do,
1140
00:49:36,059 --> 00:49:38,143
but if you work at it,
you can do 'em."
1141
00:49:38,144 --> 00:49:39,478
- I can't, my memory--
- (laughter)
1142
00:49:39,479 --> 00:49:41,438
That's another thing
as you get older.
1143
00:49:41,439 --> 00:49:44,400
- Yeah.
- I'm 71. Your memory goes.
1144
00:49:44,401 --> 00:49:45,734
- (scattered laughter)
- And, and, and...
1145
00:49:45,735 --> 00:49:47,403
I, I can't hear,
1146
00:49:47,404 --> 00:49:50,614
I can't smell,
and I can't see.
1147
00:49:50,615 --> 00:49:53,117
But, I've still got taste
and feel left.
1148
00:49:53,118 --> 00:49:55,494
And you can get by with that.
I mean, you know.
1149
00:49:55,495 --> 00:49:58,080
(audience laughter)
1150
00:49:58,081 --> 00:49:59,623
I memorized, um...
1151
00:49:59,624 --> 00:50:01,584
At, at, at,
at that time, I, I...
1152
00:50:02,460 --> 00:50:05,630
I'm trying to remember the,
the name of the, um...
1153
00:50:06,506 --> 00:50:09,299
the book about the, um,
1154
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:11,469
guy that's in, in,
in a dungeon...
1155
00:50:12,262 --> 00:50:14,639
and in the dark, and, um...
1156
00:50:16,266 --> 00:50:18,475
- audience member:
"The Count of Monte Cristo"?
- host: Is it, "The Count--"
1157
00:50:18,476 --> 00:50:20,812
- "The Count of Monte Cristo."
- host: That's what
I was thinking, yeah.
1158
00:50:21,479 --> 00:50:22,938
And something else
bad happened,
1159
00:50:22,939 --> 00:50:24,773
but I can't remember
what it was.
1160
00:50:24,774 --> 00:50:27,484
My memory at 71
has gotten so bad
1161
00:50:27,485 --> 00:50:30,696
that I can't remember
whether I got Alzheimer's or...
1162
00:50:30,697 --> 00:50:34,158
- What's the other one?
- (laughter)
1163
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:36,785
Parkinson's or Alzheimer's!
1164
00:50:36,786 --> 00:50:39,831
- (Ted laughs)
- (applause)
1165
00:50:44,336 --> 00:50:46,378
Couple of friends said,
"Well,
1166
00:50:46,379 --> 00:50:49,965
"you might not be here
for your 80th, and, um,
1167
00:50:49,966 --> 00:50:52,134
"and, and certainly
some of your friends won't be,
1168
00:50:52,135 --> 00:50:53,469
so you better go ahead
and do it."
1169
00:50:53,470 --> 00:50:54,720
So, that's what I did.
1170
00:50:54,721 --> 00:50:57,766
(applause)
1171
00:50:59,684 --> 00:51:01,269
(applause dies down)
1172
00:51:01,728 --> 00:51:04,396
(laughs) Wow.
1173
00:51:04,397 --> 00:51:08,233
They said this was gonna be
a big deal, and it really was.
1174
00:51:08,234 --> 00:51:09,985
(laughter)
1175
00:51:09,986 --> 00:51:12,197
Anyway, but I, I, I do, um,
1176
00:51:13,156 --> 00:51:16,117
I do miss it.
I really, really do.
1177
00:51:18,703 --> 00:51:20,413
And, um,
1178
00:51:21,206 --> 00:51:24,875
this has been a,
a real shot in the arm for me,
1179
00:51:24,876 --> 00:51:28,170
and I'm probably gonna live
a few more years
1180
00:51:28,171 --> 00:51:31,840
- because of tonight.
- (laughter)
1181
00:51:31,841 --> 00:51:34,385
Thank you. Thank you all.
1182
00:51:34,386 --> 00:51:36,387
(applause)
1183
00:51:36,388 --> 00:51:38,556
(cheering)
1184
00:51:41,309 --> 00:51:43,061
(audience fades out)
1185
00:51:43,561 --> 00:51:46,815
CNN reporter:
This is CNN Breaking News.
1186
00:51:48,525 --> 00:51:51,568
So, um, I hate to have
to report this.
1187
00:51:51,569 --> 00:51:53,862
The breaking news just in at CNN
1188
00:51:53,863 --> 00:51:57,783
is that actor Robin Williams
is dead at the age of 63
1189
00:51:57,784 --> 00:51:59,868
from an apparent suicide.
1190
00:51:59,869 --> 00:52:01,120
We were living a nightmare.
1191
00:52:01,121 --> 00:52:02,913
reporter:
That nightmare at its worst
1192
00:52:02,914 --> 00:52:05,290
in the months
leading up to his suicide.
1193
00:52:05,291 --> 00:52:08,419
The 63-year-old was secretly
battling depression,
1194
00:52:08,420 --> 00:52:10,714
anxiety, and paranoia,
1195
00:52:10,714 --> 00:52:12,965
which drove him
to take his own life,
1196
00:52:12,966 --> 00:52:14,800
hanging himself with a belt.
1197
00:52:14,801 --> 00:52:17,428
His autopsy later revealing
1198
00:52:17,429 --> 00:52:19,888
he was suffering from
a debilitating brain disorder,
1199
00:52:19,889 --> 00:52:21,725
Lewy body dementia.
1200
00:52:21,725 --> 00:52:24,268
Lewy body dementia
is a complex disorder
1201
00:52:24,269 --> 00:52:26,270
with many different
presentations.
1202
00:52:26,271 --> 00:52:29,398
You can see very
dramatic effects in thinking,
1203
00:52:29,399 --> 00:52:31,234
emotions, and behavior.
1204
00:52:31,234 --> 00:52:33,902
Susan Schneider Williams:
My favorite movie
of Robin Williams
1205
00:52:33,903 --> 00:52:37,407
was Robin Williams being
a human being.
1206
00:52:37,949 --> 00:52:40,242
- Not an actor.
- reporter: Right.
1207
00:52:40,243 --> 00:52:41,619
Williams:
Best movie in the world.
1208
00:52:42,704 --> 00:52:44,246
Koppel:
The confusion,
1209
00:52:44,247 --> 00:52:46,832
the episodes
of outrageous behavior,
1210
00:52:46,833 --> 00:52:50,085
the euphoric highs
and dark lows
1211
00:52:50,086 --> 00:52:53,631
were initially diagnosed as
symptoms of manic depression.
1212
00:52:54,174 --> 00:52:55,257
(birds chirping)
1213
00:52:55,258 --> 00:52:58,093
Turner says that was
a misdiagnosis,
1214
00:52:58,094 --> 00:53:00,137
but he openly acknowledges
1215
00:53:00,138 --> 00:53:03,807
having a progressive
brain disorder called
1216
00:53:03,808 --> 00:53:05,727
Lewy body dementia.
1217
00:53:07,187 --> 00:53:09,438
Can you tell us what that is?
1218
00:53:09,439 --> 00:53:11,106
Ted Turner:
It's a, um,
1219
00:53:11,107 --> 00:53:13,692
mild case of...
1220
00:53:13,693 --> 00:53:16,820
what... people have
as Alzheimer's.
1221
00:53:16,821 --> 00:53:20,200
It's similar to that,
but not nearly as bad.
1222
00:53:21,201 --> 00:53:23,244
Alzheimer's is fatal.
1223
00:53:24,412 --> 00:53:27,665
Thank goodness
that I don't have that.
1224
00:53:29,125 --> 00:53:30,835
But, I also have got, um...
1225
00:53:32,545 --> 00:53:34,673
(inhales sharply) What's...
1226
00:53:36,257 --> 00:53:38,133
I can't remember
the name of it.
1227
00:53:38,134 --> 00:53:40,344
That's alright.
Tell me what the--
1228
00:53:40,345 --> 00:53:42,805
That's dementia.
I can't remember what my...
1229
00:53:42,806 --> 00:53:44,640
- what my disease is.
- (Koppel laughs)
1230
00:53:44,641 --> 00:53:46,475
It's an unpleasant thing
to remember.
1231
00:53:46,476 --> 00:53:48,060
- It's bad.
- Koppel: Yeah.
1232
00:53:48,061 --> 00:53:50,396
physical therapist:
Six! Down and hold...
1233
00:53:50,397 --> 00:53:54,025
Koppel:
Ted Turner begins most mornings
these days with some yoga.
1234
00:53:55,235 --> 00:53:57,319
He has never been a quitter.
1235
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,030
His willingness to be shown
on network television
1236
00:54:00,031 --> 00:54:02,991
in what is certainly
a diminished state
1237
00:54:02,992 --> 00:54:04,910
is a testament to courage
1238
00:54:04,911 --> 00:54:08,205
and a surprising
absence of vanity.
1239
00:54:08,206 --> 00:54:11,208
Ted, still,
he's got the willpower,
1240
00:54:11,209 --> 00:54:16,213
uh, in spite of the Lewy body
that he's dealing with.
1241
00:54:16,214 --> 00:54:17,756
I tell him, "Look,
1242
00:54:17,757 --> 00:54:19,425
"maybe you're not
at full capacity now,
1243
00:54:19,426 --> 00:54:22,720
"but Ted Turner at half capacity
is more than
1244
00:54:22,721 --> 00:54:26,432
99 and 9/10% of the people
in the world at full capacity."
1245
00:54:26,433 --> 00:54:29,601
We went to Kazakhstan,
and he wanted to go on a walk,
1246
00:54:29,602 --> 00:54:31,854
and I remember walking
out of the hotel
1247
00:54:31,855 --> 00:54:34,732
and the kinda guards
out there said, "Don't go
1248
00:54:34,733 --> 00:54:36,525
beyond this, the fence."
1249
00:54:36,526 --> 00:54:38,444
And he said, "We're going."
1250
00:54:38,445 --> 00:54:40,112
We did. I didn't know
what was gonna happen,
1251
00:54:40,113 --> 00:54:42,197
but, I mean, he, he,
he doesn't--
1252
00:54:42,198 --> 00:54:43,866
He doesn't like
to be constrained.
1253
00:54:43,867 --> 00:54:45,284
And he doesn't like
the constraint
1254
00:54:45,285 --> 00:54:47,036
of not having
these meetings in person.
1255
00:54:47,037 --> 00:54:50,122
So, it had an effect on him,
1256
00:54:50,123 --> 00:54:54,085
but it never stopped
his tremendous desire,
1257
00:54:54,586 --> 00:54:56,588
uh, to basically save, uh,
1258
00:54:57,088 --> 00:54:58,464
save humanity.
1259
00:54:58,465 --> 00:55:00,424
As you get older now,
1260
00:55:00,425 --> 00:55:02,760
as you go into...
1261
00:55:02,761 --> 00:55:05,180
the last few chapters
1262
00:55:06,181 --> 00:55:07,599
of your life,
1263
00:55:09,726 --> 00:55:12,644
- do you ever think
about suicide?
- Ted Turner: No.
1264
00:55:12,645 --> 00:55:16,232
I've got five children
and 14 grandchildren,
1265
00:55:16,775 --> 00:55:19,068
and I wouldn't put
them through that.
1266
00:55:19,069 --> 00:55:21,570
That was painful. I'm--
1267
00:55:21,571 --> 00:55:24,949
It was painful for me,
I know, when my father did it.
1268
00:55:25,784 --> 00:55:28,536
And I'm not going to, uh,
1269
00:55:30,121 --> 00:55:32,623
even think about doing
anything like that
1270
00:55:32,624 --> 00:55:35,501
for my children
and grandchildren.
1271
00:55:35,502 --> 00:55:39,089
Uh, is there a final thought you
wanna make before we retire?
1272
00:55:39,964 --> 00:55:41,799
I'd like to thank everybody
for coming out here,
1273
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,260
and I'd like to thank
the, uh, Foundation here
1274
00:55:45,261 --> 00:55:47,513
for this nice award.
1275
00:55:47,514 --> 00:55:50,015
And the opportunity to share
a few thoughts with you
1276
00:55:50,016 --> 00:55:53,102
and get everybody
pumped up to go out there like--
1277
00:55:53,103 --> 00:55:55,979
- This is like a little
halftime speech. We're--
- (laughter)
1278
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:58,775
We're gonna go out in the
second half and kick their ass.
1279
00:55:58,775 --> 00:56:02,320
(laughter and applause)
1280
00:56:08,660 --> 00:56:12,621
♪ Happy birthday ♪
1281
00:56:12,622 --> 00:56:16,625
♪ To... you ♪
1282
00:56:16,626 --> 00:56:19,878
(applause)
1283
00:56:19,879 --> 00:56:22,881
I've loved every minute of it,
every moment.
1284
00:56:22,882 --> 00:56:25,884
In college, I won
just about all the time.
1285
00:56:25,885 --> 00:56:29,847
Hopefully first of a number
of World's Championships
that we'll win.
1286
00:56:29,848 --> 00:56:31,473
I like it, and I think
the players do, too.
1287
00:56:31,474 --> 00:56:32,808
Everybody likes it.
1288
00:56:32,809 --> 00:56:35,894
reporter:
The press noted
that Cup Race fans
1289
00:56:35,895 --> 00:56:38,355
had found themselves
a folk hero.
1290
00:56:38,356 --> 00:56:42,067
Someone yelled
"Turner for president!"
1291
00:56:42,068 --> 00:56:44,361
Ted Turner:
I dedicate the news channel
1292
00:56:44,362 --> 00:56:48,574
for America,
the Cable News Network.
1293
00:56:48,575 --> 00:56:51,660
- Letterman: And Cable News
Network is not making dough.
- Mm-mm.
1294
00:56:51,661 --> 00:56:52,995
(audience laughing)
1295
00:56:52,996 --> 00:56:54,872
How do you support
yourself, Ted?
1296
00:56:54,873 --> 00:56:57,333
♪
1297
00:56:57,334 --> 00:56:59,084
Ted Turner:
While I'd never
been in business
1298
00:56:59,085 --> 00:57:00,544
primarily for money,
1299
00:57:00,545 --> 00:57:04,173
when I became a billionaire,
it did feel good.
1300
00:57:04,174 --> 00:57:05,924
Ouch!
1301
00:57:05,925 --> 00:57:07,843
- (smacks)
- Cut that out.
1302
00:57:07,844 --> 00:57:09,678
Ah-ah!
1303
00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:11,514
They're just being
playful, obviously.
1304
00:57:11,514 --> 00:57:13,850
Part of my desire
to own this land
1305
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:16,769
was to make sure
it was never developed.
1306
00:57:16,770 --> 00:57:19,021
Well, I'm raising the bison
'cause I really like 'em,
1307
00:57:19,022 --> 00:57:21,857
but when I got up to 42,000,
1308
00:57:21,858 --> 00:57:23,442
I had to start doing
something with them
1309
00:57:23,443 --> 00:57:25,402
because they keep breeding,
so we had to,
1310
00:57:25,403 --> 00:57:27,613
- we had to eat some of 'em.
- (laughter)
1311
00:57:27,614 --> 00:57:29,615
I'm a multi-faceted person.
1312
00:57:29,616 --> 00:57:31,909
- I've got a lot of
different personalities.
- speaker: I don't believe--
1313
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:35,454
- You oughta see me at
midnight on a full moon.
- (laughter)
1314
00:57:35,455 --> 00:57:37,122
Here it comes. (growls)
1315
00:57:37,123 --> 00:57:39,375
I think it'd be tragic
to just be remembered
1316
00:57:39,376 --> 00:57:40,793
for making a lot of money.
1317
00:57:40,794 --> 00:57:43,587
I decided that what would be
really exciting to do,
1318
00:57:43,588 --> 00:57:47,424
donate a billion dollars
to the UN causes myself.
1319
00:57:47,425 --> 00:57:49,385
♪
1320
00:57:49,386 --> 00:57:51,595
Are we gonna make
the right choices
1321
00:57:51,596 --> 00:57:54,973
that will allow us to exist
for another million years,
1322
00:57:54,974 --> 00:57:58,977
here, on this beautiful paradise
of a planet that we're on?
1323
00:57:58,978 --> 00:58:01,271
Or are we gonna
turn it into a desert
1324
00:58:01,272 --> 00:58:03,899
and end up blowing
ourselves to kingdom come?
1325
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:05,068
The choice is ours.
1326
00:58:05,068 --> 00:58:07,820
You live by the sword,
you die by it.
1327
00:58:07,821 --> 00:58:09,571
Let's keep our fingers crossed
1328
00:58:09,572 --> 00:58:12,408
and hope that Captain Planet
and the Planeteers
1329
00:58:12,409 --> 00:58:13,450
can save the planet.
1330
00:58:13,451 --> 00:58:15,912
I think I ran harder
1331
00:58:15,912 --> 00:58:18,414
and faster in my life
1332
00:58:18,415 --> 00:58:20,082
than, uh, most people do.
1333
00:58:20,083 --> 00:58:23,753
I will do whatever is
necessary to survive.
1334
00:58:23,753 --> 00:58:26,171
I mean, the only way
they're gonna get rid of me,
1335
00:58:26,172 --> 00:58:28,007
uh, is to put a bullet in me.
1336
00:58:28,008 --> 00:58:29,259
- Mike Wallace: "Turner, veer--
- Yeah.
1337
00:58:29,259 --> 00:58:31,427
Wallace:
"Veers dangerously toward...
1338
00:58:31,428 --> 00:58:33,930
- "Insanity." Well...
- Wallace: ...insanity."
Oh, you read that?
1339
00:58:33,930 --> 00:58:37,099
I read it. I read it. I mean,
I expected it from him.
1340
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:39,476
If they think it's bad
for women to want sex,
1341
00:58:39,477 --> 00:58:41,104
then why don't
they cut the heads off
1342
00:58:41,104 --> 00:58:43,814
the little whackers
of the 10-year-old boys
over there, too?
1343
00:58:43,815 --> 00:58:47,484
- (press laughing)
- You know, and make it, uh,
make it an even-Steven deal.
1344
00:58:47,485 --> 00:58:48,944
Who's got the first question?
1345
00:58:48,945 --> 00:58:51,030
You're right,
I get in more trouble, I--
1346
00:58:51,031 --> 00:58:54,366
I wish I didn't say some of
the crazy things I've said.
1347
00:58:54,367 --> 00:58:56,493
The thing that really
determines your happiness
1348
00:58:56,494 --> 00:58:58,454
is your relationships.
1349
00:58:58,455 --> 00:59:00,622
With your family,
with your friends.
1350
00:59:00,623 --> 00:59:02,374
I love this world of ours.
1351
00:59:02,375 --> 00:59:04,209
It's a beautiful,
wonderful place
1352
00:59:04,210 --> 00:59:06,503
that deserves taking care of.
1353
00:59:06,504 --> 00:59:08,630
And in order to be able
to take care of it,
1354
00:59:08,631 --> 00:59:10,049
the first thing we have to do
1355
00:59:10,050 --> 00:59:12,968
is learn to live in peace
and harmony and cooperation.
1356
00:59:12,969 --> 00:59:16,014
(inspiring music playing)
1357
00:59:23,730 --> 00:59:25,814
Thank you all
for being part of it,
1358
00:59:25,815 --> 00:59:27,649
and God bless you.
1359
00:59:27,650 --> 00:59:30,695
- (crowd cheering)
- (music ends)
1360
00:59:32,489 --> 00:59:34,990
presenter (on PA):
Ladies and gentlemen,
Ted Turner.
1361
00:59:34,991 --> 00:59:37,202
(applause)
1362
00:59:40,205 --> 00:59:43,416
(light music playing)
1363
00:59:59,724 --> 01:00:02,936
♪
1364
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:06,791
(music fades out)
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